Castle Super Beast - SBFC 033: Everybody's Yawning

Episode Date: March 25, 2014

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Music Cause one of these days we're gonna get that hiccup on the 5th It's gonna happen It's gonna happen You've always done it just before we start recording But it's gonna happen dude But right now he's working on getting He's trying to hold it in

He's focusing his energy And now he's giggling like a little baby That's getting pumped Everyone What's that status effect? Like when a character in an RPG like hunkers down They're ready to attack Well I was just doing Pokemon

Well I was just charging his attack Like something like that Pat uses focus energy Yeah more or less And Leer No No it's not gonna happen And then he does a karate chop and he kills Jay-Z

Oh no They're just talking about my dreams bro You wish you could karate chop Jay-Z I wish I could karate chop anyone to death That'd be fucking cool What chop though? Chops always seemed less efficient Also if it's a dream chop

Then they're chopped in half Is it one or is it many? To me there's no point in chopping Unless there's a bunch of people that go Woooo Every time you do it And that's a bad chop Cause you're getting the backhand

It's not a proper cut chop Well it's a knife edge chop When you actually do it on It makes a nice clear slap sometimes If you do it right Rio from King of Fighters says that move Where he jumps across the screen and does a big Big dumb chop

And it's like why would that hurt? It would be better if you just used a fist Exactly No that's not regulation It can only be open-fist Just use your dumb fist Yeah but it's cool so it's okay I guess

But it's not cool That's the whole problem Yeah but his whole shtick is making someone else look bad What Rio's shtick is putting people over No Rio's supposed to be the serious tiger No he's supposed to probably be Make fun of Rio No

No He's a serious fighter No, Rio's dragon Roberts Tiger Are you sure? Yeah Rio is a ripple I always mix it up Of Rio

Yeah He's not meant to make him look bad Dan is supposed to make Rio look great And Rio And Yuri Robert And Robert look bad

And Yuri is supposed to make Rio and Dan look bad Right Yeah but Rio is an actual serious fighter Oh sure, just half my note But he's so serious All my crazy knowledge comes from Game Center CX And the EVO finals last year

So Art of Fighting is just way the fuck out there But Rio's so serious that he's almost a joke Yeah He's so sweet like Yeah His Neo Max is just a straight raw punch That's a good Neo Max Whatever that is

His opening intro against his sisters Like she does a crazy big like Ah I'm gonna beat the shit out of you And he just smacks his face He does a face palm, it's great Yeah Anyway It's cute

It is cute Episode 33 everybody's yawning We're also We're also tired of the podcast Jesus We haven't gone yet Should I even go on here? This is

This is sad to me Throwing the whole schedule out This script is going What's the point? Only I did my part I drank a whole thing of coffee You scared Zach throwing the taper at him You super scared him

You are such a jackass This podcast is now ruining lives You guys shouldn't be yawning That's another Thanksgiving Day podcast ruined No This was recorded on Thanksgiving Day And localized to you Time travel on this day

When the fuck is Canadian Thanksgiving then? In October October? I know Whenever we call it right? It depends on the solstice Yeah so does American Thanksgiving I think It flips around

It's like the last Thursday of whatever I thought it had to do with the Groundhog on Groundhog No Groundhogs are like February But I thought like if it came out but upwards Thanksgiving would be in August instead of October So if the ass sees its shadow Exactly Then we don't get Thanksgiving

Until later Gotcha When I was a babby I would always go by When Survivor Series was Survivor Series is always Thanksgiving night Back in the day That was ridiculous That was so ridiculous

Survivor Series The Thanksgiving night tradition Oh That's really the night It's really annoying You know the Groundhog Puxitani Phil The one that they look at

For the next day No He has a name Yeah Puxitani Phil No I didn't know He's the star of Groundhog Day Because I wanted you to get in real close And I was going to tell you a secret

That he died many years ago What? They keep replacing him with new Groundhogs Oh that's so cool You're the new Phil now That's terrible but that's great Yeah and like they just pretend it's the same guy The old Phil kept seeing his shadow

I hope you don't make mistakes Every year Yeah How was the week guys? How was the week? Uh sure like I spent most of the last couple days Alright pause let's do some jumping jacks Okay

No Pat Come on one and two and come on Maybe fuck off I'm sleepy I'm good We're all sleepy I'm alert but sleepy if that makes any sense Like if it was bad noise What was that noise?

Oh it was probably nothing Probably nothing It's just a box For myself I built Ikea shit all weekend That's a task That's a task but you play you put adventure time You have a loved one helping you It goes by way faster

And we built like a stupid That's a primary objective We built a dresser that has metal And tracks and wheels and mechanisms It's very intimidating when you've only Really made like all wooden things They didn't have latches? Were there latches involved?

There was pulleys There were systems There was little gnomes running around On the piece of furniture It's like an elaborate wire stunt gone nuts It's a little elaborate In terms of games like I played South Park a bit more I played a bunch more K.I.

Just I was like kind of getting out of practice I gotta ask and I don't mean to be a dick about this But like Every time you say that Yeah No like how are you at K.I. Like are you going online and being like I stopped playing fighting games too long

Or are you like decent Every time I get back in rank 7 Which is hungry Which is like the first rank where you're like Okay I'm making progress Because you can tell by the color If you get red If you're red and you're like

Okay and then Max is at Rainmaker now Yeah So that one's silver and gold And I haven't I go maybe one rank below that And one rank above it And I always stay around there And I go

I think it's contender and trial horse Trial horse and I think contender's after hungry Yeah Yeah But yeah Like I mean I'm playing less than I used to But it's mostly because I'm like

Waiting for full gore Waiting for full gore So yeah Me and Liam watched a bunch of Queensblade That went well I think That was entertaining That was a whole What?

You fuckers kept going What? You kept going No I couldn't put myself through Jesus Christ That was a joke That was another thing that happened Because you would

No I wouldn't Queensblade is awful Now remember when we looked up Queensblade I told you the first episode has this dumb thing that happens And you guys kind of didn't really say anything And then when the dumb thing that happens And you went You weren't even lying

Yeah Funny girl shoot stuff out of some stuff Spoilers God damn it I figured it out And I'm like Did you? I'm not sure if you did

I think I figured it out Well what's the first blank in this mad libs of Shoot stuff? Yeah That one I don't know The second one I can ballpark She's gonna touch with a Coming out of her boobs

Oh god no The acid Acid Whatever Is this like that Katy Perry music video with Snoop Dogg Yes exactly But hey it's on Netflix so it's alright It's on Netflix for kids

It was not on Netflix for kids It should be but it's not You got Arthur You got your Queensblade And then you got your A staple of a healthy childhood The thumbnail is just an asshole It's just a straight asshole

Right next to Arthur Not even the butt Just the hole Other than that Get in there I wasn't talking about this now Cause you brought it up You literally brought it up man

And it got attacked by my apartment Who's next You got attacked by Wait hold on what Oh yeah you didn't see it What? No Dude we recorded a whole video about it It was fucking nice

It's almost as if you should be aware What's going on at the channel Go watch the videos that go up Yeah go watch the videos that go up To be fair I understand you might not want to see 25 minutes about a place that you've been Every day Every day

But But David Cage's apartment attacked me I hit my head I almost fell down There were boxes and everything You got ready though I got ready though And I hit all the QTEs

Fantastic Oh everybody's looking at me Yeah take the floor I'm making sure you fucking stay up Shut up I had a really really nice weekend The girlfriend made me watch Totoro Which I had never seen

And I fell in my neighbor Totoro Yeah my neighbor Totoro And I feel really stupid I waited this long to watch any Miyazaki That's the one I thought he said like Totoro or something like that No No it's about the magic bunny thing

Right yes Why did I wait so long to watch a Miyazaki movie Cause every time you get to watch one That's the first Miyazaki movie you've seen I saw Hell's Moving Castle In a theater Oh my god it's magical Everything's magical

Every time he told you to watch one you went Eh Yeah well she has She has more sway of my opinions Than you guys do Well now you gotta go watch No no watch Now you gotta go play Waku Waku 7

Because you can basically use Totoro Waku Waku 7 what the fuck is that It's a fighting game isn't it It's a fighting game that he keeps trying to push No it's a good game But it's an actually good game Sure but you keep trying to push it Why would I push a bad game

It's a good game Why would I not push a good game Cause we don't think highly of your opinions I don't know Pat continue And I also feel really proud of myself Cause I made my first omelet in like 10 years And it was good and I didn't poison anyone

Hey It tasted really good That's nice That's good I know right If you like eggs I didn't fuck you Fuck you

You're gonna start this shit right now aren't you Not really I have you just did It's actually It really doesn't like eggs Yeah it really hates eggs It actually hates freedom It's super simple really

When you're a kid and you have a bad experience with food It's been scientifically proven It's true I can't It's the hardest thing to break out of I can't eat lamb for this reason Dude it's all it takes See how it diffuses What did a lamb should a lamb bite you

No I cooked lamb I was fed poorly prepared lamb Exactly And it was a disaster I got sick off of some really bad eggs I had some really bad potato salad I had bad Potato salad can get really bad

I had bad egg salad And I just fucking That'll do it I tapped out forever Okay Yeah that makes sense And in terms of games I played a lot of Infamous

Which is really really really good How much of Infamous did you play I want to say like two thirds On the way through it It's fucking great It's pretty good It's very pretty Very it's

I have a good breakdown of it forever It's the very first game I've played This generation that I've looked at It's like Yup That's it That's a new video game Yeah

I think it's the first exclusive I've played Did you play Shadowfall Yeah Because Shadowfall is pretty It's pretty But it's also like It's not great It's also like ahhh

And I also beat Dark Souls Which That last boss is terrible That last boss is terrible Terrible terrible terrible Games like the bosses in general Are kind of a downgrade to Dark Souls And the second

Yeah totally And the second and last boss Is even worse It is so large And you have to be so close That you can't see Like 70% of the boss Because it's so tall

And it swings a sword But you can't see It's entire arm If you're going to want to Be close enough to hit it So is the rest of the game Still Dark Souls Rest of the game is fucking awesome

But like right at the end Like those two last bosses Are really disappointing And it sucks because Like the Like the lead up Gauntlet and lead up To the two last bosses

Are the best that have ever been In that series Like it's this really atmospheric Like cool setting That you're trudging along It's like there's the door Like super far in the distance You can see it

It's like ohhhh I'm going to do it I'm going to do it And then it's like The easiest boss in Souls history And it's just bad Easier than the last boss of demons Yeah way

Like the real last boss The real last boss And like it's So the ending of Dark Souls 1 Was like nothing And the ending of Dark Souls 2 Is even more nothing And no one believed you

Like I feel like I know Less about the game now Subtracted knowledge It literally comes to the point Where in Dark Souls 1 You got to the end And you're like That's the final boss

Oh shit And in Dark Souls 2 You get to the end And the final boss Looks at you It says ha ha it's me And you go Who are you?

Vince McMahon I don't know who you are Well I kind of know who you are But why are you I guess we'll fight now Do you know what I That strikes me That strikes me as

Who is the final boss of Okami Clearly it's this guy Oh it's you Thing that I never was told about Well that Yeah yeah exactly It's you you haven't It reminds me too

Like of that situation Or Bioshock 1 Where you're just like Why Why Why Why that whole last level Of Bioshock 1

Is so awesome Yes but as you Distance yourself from it You still look back And go man that game was awesome Right But why So I think once you

Get past these two Negative experiences Oh yeah on the whole The game is fucking radical And as soon as the PC version Comes out I'm gonna go right back Into it

Yeah so I mean Not to hunker down On those two things But that is unfortunate Considering I guess The first game had an amazing one I mean Final boss

Yeah Okay the final boss of Demon souls Final boss of demons Was awesome No no the Wow Sorry I'm talking about

The thing at the very very end Which I assume You're not even counting We're gonna talk about Demon souls's ending here At the end of the game You find a dude Yeah

This guy's name is Old King Allent And he's a dude with a sword And it's a duel And he's awesome And he's awesome And then you Go into the ending sequence

And like a pile of goo Attacks you And it's a total Nice Like it's a victory lap It's nothing Bioslide And I don't count that

As the final boss Okay And the final boss of dark one Was kinda easy But he was fine He was fine But he was kinda easy And like now

It's just like Nothing But what I did find out Is that new game plus Has new enemies Like new enemy locations And they totally rebalance The game like a platinum

Or an old capcom game would And there are items You can only get a new game plus Which give you more plots Or might be a new ending At the end of new game plus Or at least more context For the ending

Are you gonna Respect anything? You're just gonna continue With your back? No, I'm gonna start over on PC And you can respect You can respect like I think there's

I found four of the respect items Yeah, I've got like In the game So And then once you beat the game There's like straight up At a bonfire There's like a new game plus option

So you can There's a bunch So probably the most disappointing thing About Dark Souls 2 Is that the final bosses Are so disappointing But the optional bosses Are so cool

There are two That's almost always the Oh, I saw one of them And he looks fucking There are two optional bosses That are really fucking radical And one of them requires Special requirements

To beat in the game That you are never told That there are specific As per the usual Like what Okay, so It's like why would you not Fight a weapon?

Yeah The coolest boss In the game probably Is an enemy that appears Not aggressive to you And you have to do Tons of damage To a non-aggressive character

For them to turn on you And only then Do they get a health bar And then you realize I've been whaling on them For 20 minutes And the health bar comes up And you've taken maybe

1% of the health bar off And you go What? How? How are you supposed to do that? But there are Pre-requisites That you can do

To do damage to Right I looked it up in the guide And without any Of the prerequisites There are five He's at 32 times His base defense

And if you have One of the things He's at 16 And if he's at 2 The things he's at 8 And if you get All of them They become a real boss fight

But before that They just become Uninvincible They appear to be An invincible god character Which would fit With their place In the game

Okay And the other ones Just really cool And awesome That's a plus Yeah It's like A great game

But Like that Ending Like that last Almost an hour and a half It's like Really Okay

Really weak Well I'll see what's up With the new game plus I will But that means You're going to have to I'll be waiting It'll be Waffner

Because I'm waiting for the PC So you're going to put it down And wait for that Yeah I'll play other stuff So this week I sacrificed All my Dark Souls

Two time Oh no For Queensblade No Not playing We're going to play it together But I played Three games this week

Three Three count Exactly It's more than two So the first one I played with Matt Yaiba, Ninja Gaiden Z Yeah, he played

Is I played it And you watched Well no Even for you Played as a very generous Term But is it though

Because that's not what I'm hearing Instead of being endured Yeah No, not even endured Because I played it Let's hear it That's not what I heard So the reviews came out that morning

And the first thing I thought was Damn it, fuck Pat can fucking gloat about it That game's bad Yeah And so I was like Oh man, I hope it's not just shit I hope there's

Summer deeming quality Exactly So I played it with Matt And Matt put it the best Where he said Well now I'm even more disappointed Because

It could have been something It's not God terrible It's not shit like I'd rather it be shit Or I'd rather it be I'd rather it be whatever it's not Yeah Whatever it is

Yeah, exactly Like the game is polished And it works It's not polished Polished is not the term No, it was polished It's functional We didn't get like

Ridiculous hiccups No, that's I wouldn't call that polishing either No I would call polishing like Mechanics that work properly And mesh well together I would consider

Polished like good menu flow And the menu flow was good Oh, it was terrible It was fucking fine Are you joking? I made that point that There's so many different fonts And things coming in

It was busy And it's just so busy And like it doesn't make sense to me It was busy It's not giving me the information I want That's besides the point Anyway, what I was going to say Is like the game feels like

Yeah, you were so on the right track Like time was put into it Like actual real time Exactly And I can see where like Tecmo was following the development And they were like Yeah, this is right

This is right And then right at the end At the end lap Everything just fucking Didn't come together So when I hear this about games A lot of times when you read developer stuff They say the game's a complete fucking mess

Until the month before we ship it out Yes, yes And it sounds like They just didn't do that part This feels like the opposite There's a magic build That comes together often Consistently

Yeah It's like this is the fun version Yeah Liam, what I want you to do though Is report back in when you fought Hayabusa Oh, I'm gonna And tell us what that's like Yeah

Cause that might be interesting One thing I want to chime in is that visually It looked way better than the trailers Yeah Yeah, I saw that The colors and everything They looked way better than the trailers Gave it credit for

Yeah Also, I understand that His attitude is no where near as ridiculous As the trailers imply Well, that's only because The trailers put all of it in They sliced up the trailers It sliced it up

But like There was still like I'd say every Fourth line he has with his With decent frequency With the decent frequency With the girl The Miss Monday mentions like something

And you go Why don't you fucking suck my thick dick I Like Actually, no, that's funny Cause I only remember him saying two things During the hour and a half we played Which still isn't great

But it wasn't every 45 But he wasn't screaming Fuck you Everywhere He didn't say fuck you He didn't say take a suck yet I was making this point when we were playing Mad World has great writing

Because they hired two comedians To do the commentary And that shit was funny And this is not funny in any instance at all The writing was tremendously uninteresting If anything, it was so bland Really? Like even with all that preview coverage

Trailers They cut it up They cut it up But it's supposed to be But like it's not even offensive It's just boring Yeah That's weird

God, that's You're right, that's way worse Because they advertise it as Ninja Gaiden with some flavor And it does have that Just not enough It's like when you eat something Like something billed as Mexican food

And there's no spice And there's a little tinge A little bit of curry You know it's just big You know it's just flavoring That's like spice It's not actually spice Okay

You know The one thing I took from it And I think we both agreed on Is that like it's not even character action It's not It's down there with It's a button masher It's down there with Rykar

And the others Killer is dead Right? Oh no Not quite killer is dead Because killer is dead Eh It's still

I'm really doing I would consider killer is dead To be the actual Like the actual The actual line The actual line Oh Barely

Barely No But think about it All of ya There's moves or moves that kill Multiple guys Yeah It's like on a war school

It's Yeah Well only when you use this chain Because you've got the chain, the fist And the sword all at the same time And they're all different buttons But you're presented with so many Zombies

Yeah It doesn't have Does it have waves? Yeah In a sense And it scores you at the end of the wave Yeah Okay

Yeah totally Okay It does a lot of things right But it doesn't execute everything And you've got defensive actions Yeah Dodge Yeah

You remember the huge zip across the screen Yeah Okay I'm thinking about jumping Because there's no jumping Yeah you've got parry blocking There's a couple of different mechanisms Parry blocking Yeah

Okay yeah that's a That's a thorough You know set Like it leapt through the air And you look at it And it's kind of cool But it completely botches the landing And gets a four from the destructoid judge

You know Like So that was Yaiba I'm going to play through it Because apparently it's short And I just want to see Momiji and Ryu Do stuff Yeah

Get dropped I hate it I hate it On that game so bad And then that Where Hayabusa boss fight trailer came out Yeah Where the

Infinity Hayabusa draw Where I specifically fast forwarded To that exact time stamp And sent it to you That's funny I sent it to you time stamp there You said Oh don't send it to me time stamp

There And then But for them That looks really cool It looks really cool And like I looked at that And then like Went back and looked at the previous stuff

I was like Why couldn't the whole game be that I know it Like Well that's kind of What I'm saying is it feels like that Where there's flashes of Like yeah

You know I feel like they could have Made an Asura's Wrath out of that Rather than Fail at doing an action game But why are you just making a ninja guy Like Well I was gonna

Didn't I say that to you I'd actually prefer If this didn't have Ninja Gaiden on the title at all Well Because it adds nothing Because I was gonna go the other way With it and say

Not sorry Just that Like I think we all agree That the concept of An enemy that You defeated at some point Coming back

And being like Fuck that I want a finish And it's almost the same Concept as the core draw Behind the Devil May Cry 4 plot Of the former hero

Yeah That you played as In many games Is a crazy badass Now you're boss fight Yeah No definitely And I mean

As a counterpoint to that Like everyone loves A good spinoff And had this been good It would be like Yeah it's a good spinoff But it's not Everyone likes the

Concept of a good spinoff That it very rarely happens No of course But when it does It's like okay When people heard of Durger's cerebrus I was like hey

That should be good Well crisis core ended up Being good Crisis core ended up Being the one good one You need to Specifically get us Some footage of

His zuna dropping back Yeah If that's possible Xbox record that So yeah that game That game's pretty short Which game number two I was gonna say

That game's pretty short And doesn't have a lot of content Unlike Ground Zeroes Which has a lot of content But it's also short Weirdly Liam played the shit Out of Ground Zeroes

I played like Seven hours And I'm still looking For the XOF badges To unlock deja vu So I'm still doing shit In that game You should just give up

And use a guide I don't want to What we did in them I wanted it immediately I don't care I need writing in my life I feel no satisfaction For scouring

For collectibles anymore Yeah I still do That's besides the point I played the game The campaign As reported is fairly short It took me

66 minutes to beat The first time I heard that there's A weirdly low amount Of cutscenes in this Yeah there's not many There's a couple Of key points

But like very few There's also A dialogue You can miss Okay There's things You can miss There's a lot more

Your team are reined at the fucking For this one at least Yes There's events That you can miss Yeah There's a lot of stuff It's really fun

And when you beat it You unlock four other missions And there's a fifth one You can unlock after that Plus all the hard modes You were telling me How there was one mission That's so dumb

But it's amazing It's so dumb silly I love it You rescue that Oh I know that mission Rescue the guy Yeah you rescue the guy Yeah the man

I saw a picture And I could Like I saw that picture Without any context That was from my stream I could not figure out What I was looking at Right

That was like the first spoiler To hit them Yeah I'm looking at it I was like I know who that is But I don't know what's going on In this photograph

Yeah no I got that wrong It was a good experience But yeah Rise of good experience Rise of good experience For video games But yeah Really good game

Definitely the next big step For Metal Gear Like outside of linear stuff The open world Really makes a difference And it's not like say Oblivion or Far Cry Where you go in an open world

And like every weapon Is more or less interchangeable Because they all just kill In different shootbang-y ways Whereas like If you start the mission With a sniper rifle You unlock what you can do

It drastically changes how You are going to want To play it I think that's why The difference between You get a military advisor To tell you how weapons Should work

Versus some game design And it's like Kill Yeah maybe We want this one to be The one that shoots Lots of bullets We want this one to be

The one that shoots Lots of bullets fast We can do that Well the opening cutscene Shows you that guard Pulling the stabilizer Off of the submachine gun And it's just like

Okay That serious attention to detail Yeah the game looks gorgeous too Did you catch that bit where The VIP that you rescue Afterwards On the title screen Messes with your shit

Totally I fucking love it Yeah that was really fun too It's really cool A really good game And I wanted to say I've been thinking about it Not that

I want to say I have expectations For this But to say I have expectations Would imply that I have any faith In game journalism So I am deeply disappointed In game journalism Because over the past week

It has been everybody Look at our 10 minute run Of ground zeroes And it has been a big Circular Issue of People saying It's a 10 minute demo

Well he's literally Closing his eyes And he's like Teach it Exactly And the very fact That these reviewers Who own review copies

And who have review copies Never came out To any capacity that I saw And I see quite a bit And said Hey wait There's actually A lot of content in this game

Like I'm fucking Six and a half, seven hours in And I've got like 30 something percent Unlocked I totally agree with you But I think this I think that really stems from

The fact that I'm a reviewer I completed the game And now I have to move on To the next game And review it But there's something And are you telling me That their review

Was simply playing Ground Zeroes The story and Dropping it I think so Because I don't think That's even a good review Of the game

Oh no it's terrible No I'm just explaining Why Like I Game is not great And I think that's Like I can't devote

Getting every single Collectible Fuck this I beat the game I have to go review This fucking That's the base That's the base mentality

Combined with Let's create a story Where there's nothing And what you get Is this bullshit Where Let's not tell you that After you beat the main mission

And do nothing else You get back to the main menu And it goes Good job Eight percent You did nothing Hold that Liam

Liam beat the game And then it says Something like 23 New things along The main mission alone Ground Zeroes There's 23 unlockables

Every mission has Like something like 15 plus unlockables in it There's a lot of shit in that game You know, this This game in a lot of ways Reminds me of Case Zero

Dead Rising to Case Zero Yeah In which Capcom Was saved from this controversy By having a Gameplay system Which literally requires The game to last

Two hours And they totally dodge it Yeah Because of the Dead Rising timing system It makes sense Even though it was I'm going to imagine

A similar percentage Of the content Versus the main game They get to avoid The fucking Speedrun freakouts So the thing is They do exactly that though

In terms of like Events occur in a certain time And you can be in the right place To interact with it And do things But instead of having it On that set Two hour timer

It's based on When you do this event Now the next sequence In this area begins For the next thing Yeah So they Took that two hour formula

And made it like You have control over it Yeah I kind of feel like Phantom Pain will Can't work like that With the Huge amount of world

And then since Ground Zeroes is just One little area They're able to really Play with all that Like all those variables We'll certainly see Yeah

I mean I just It depends With the structure Of Phantom Pain If it's a bunch Of huge If it's Peace Walker But with huge

Areas Yeah Then like that Would work But if it's straight up Like More like Just fucking go

Yeah Then I don't know And we've seen A mixture of Indoors and Outdoors Things going on there And the Phantom Pain stuff

But in Ground Zeroes There's almost no Indoors at all You kind of have Like I want to say you have Probably a lot more Going on in Ground Zeroes

Than you will end up With in Phantom Pain In terms of replay value Because they looked at it I think they kind of went Like I feel like Ground Zeroes was Because all Metal Gears

Were replayed Of course I don't know But I think that In Ground Zeroes They went out of their way To make a package Maybe

But I mean And I don't know Like we're going to see Like five or six Replay variants Daytime, nighttime, etc For Phantom Pain We might

But I feel like They really Put the extra work Into making Ground Zeroes a whole thing Because they showed off The whole clock thing Yeah, they did

And the whole day Night It wouldn't be Daytime and nighttime Mission except for It would instead be Like as in Ground Zeroes Like it's straight up

This is a daytime mission This is a nighttime mission Right But in Phantom Pain They showed off the fact That you go sit somewhere You could wait And you take your Walkman

And you fast forward Like eight hours Well then perhaps We'll see something where It's like You know what? All of these missions Are in the main campaign

Yeah You just go do that Exactly And that will be cool For sure And I can easily see a situation I want it to be That you can

Do story missions In any time of day That's what I really, really want Of course But what I'm afraid It's going to be Is you're going to go to Like a mission start area

And it's literally Going to like pan out to the sky And then it's going to become The time of day the mission needs Right But weather conditions Matter in the Fox Engine, man That's why I want

It to be user controlled Because I want a situation So you choose This mission is super hard During the day Yeah Okay You go at night

This part is Is more heavily You know what I mean? Yeah And you'll probably go to Code Talker or whatever And be like Y'all want it to rain at this time

God, I forgot about Code Talker And then he'll be like I'll make it rain at this time Yeah, Code Talker Did anyone remember Code Talker? Well, clearly I did I mean The character?

It's the old guy The old guy? Like whenever we talk About the Phantom Pain Trailer We talk about Oh, jeez See Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

Another guy Or Skull Face Skull Face But nobody talks about Or liquid Or liquid Yeah Anyway

Yeah I'm also pretty bummed about reviews That take into account the price Because I don't really stand by that idea Of like I totally disagree with you Well, because my ideal for that Is when I look at Metacritic in 10 years

And I say I want to play the Phantom Pain Yeah And it has a Metacritic that is hurt By its original launch price When it is currently $5 Sure I think that is

But Liam Metacritic is not made for 10 years Metacritic is made for buying advice to date Yeah And that is an inherent flaw in the system Do you not disagree with that? No, reviews are for Are buying advice

They are buying advice But why not for the future? When I Because I Because their expensive Movie reviews are But not all of us spend as much money As we do on games

But then you're asking for reviewers 10 years from now To re-review the game That's not what I'm saying That's the only way that would get fixed Who are you to tell me What I should spend my money on? Movie reviews

No, it's not It's job is to tell me how good it is Movie reviews Movie reviews don't take the price of the movie into account Because the price of the movie is always the same No When we went to see The Hobbit It was a lot more expensive

But those Those reviews did take the price into account Because of the 3D shit I still don't agree with it But it's still a real flaw Theater to theater Country to country Who are you

Who are you What did you say? Who are you to tell me What I should spend my money on What is worth my money on But that's a reviewer's job That's why you're reading the review No

If you don't want that Then don't read reviews No, their job is to tell us how good something is No, their job is to tell you how valuable The item is to the consumer Then they get a shill I expect them to tell me how good something is How are they shilling

They're telling the consumer Sorry, sorry Not a shill But what are they Just like someone there To just tell you Hey, this is a bad price I don't give a fuck about the price

I don't give a fuck It is the difference between a car review And a movie review Okay Like games are functioned Like a movie is never going to not work Sure And a game has tons of different components

When I look at a review Or when I used to look at reviews I don't really anymore Like stuff like the amount of content The amount of modes How well put together the game is It's overall quality These are all factors

And it comes into a product Reviewers are not supposed to Well, this is a personal I guess, philosophical Because the decision Yeah Games should be reviewed as products Not as art

Now that's exactly where you guys are totally You're both correct in that There are two types of reviews Like you said One's like for a car One's like for a movie You don't want game reviews You want games criticism

Game criticism Absolutely Which is really the standard They should be held to And honestly But what we get nowadays Is we get the car sale Because if we get the car reviews

I do agree in that I would prefer more focus On the quality of the product itself Without taking into account How it was marketed Or how the pricing affects What you're getting Because the Kotaku thing

For example, should you buy this game? Yes or no There's no way to misinterpret that It's very clearly telling you Purchase or don't purchase I think we make fun of that review Maybe sometimes it's not But I generally think

It comes down to preference To me it's like I don't care if this game Has better mileage If it's not as good at the top But tons and tons of people do care Because they are very price limited Which is why I prefaced this with

I'm pretty bummed about Oh, I am similarly bummed the fuck out About the total lack of Games criticism that exists I think that's depressing I just think in particular For Ground Zero's where the reviews boil down to There's little content

And you're paying that way too much In that case, I would say That the Metacritic reviews Like two months out Literally don't matter Because they serve their purpose I mean, look, if Little Timmy Is reading a review for Steel Battalion

And it doesn't give him Some information that he needs to know It's gonna be like Uh, wait, what? This costs how much? That's definitely gonna be a factor So there's a time and place for that But personally, I'd love to see

Much more games criticism Than reviews that focus on What's his purchasing? Tim Rogers? The best reviewer ever? Yes? Yeah The one thing that the white price

Gets mentioned I think is Because I don't know How many times have you seen A game comes out and goes Looks great, but I'm not spending 60 dollars on this Yeah Looks great, but I'm not

Spending 40 dollars on this Maybe I'll pick it up when it's 5 bucks Or maybe it's a rental It's such a video game themed thing Because like the You're madden buyers And you're halo buyers

Don't fucking care about the prices They are not price sensitive I'll buy it every year Same thing with Call of Duty Exactly Fans For movies it's like I have to take all my kids

This week on the movies It doesn't matter how much it costs I won't go see the expensive 3D thing Other than that What? Oh god Is it any cool news that Rates movies depending on their

Like their rating system is Like Friday night or matinee or No, that's the stupid thing That our mutual friend Like swears by The spill? Yeah, spill It's a rental, matinee, bus buy

And better than sex That's the kind of rating system That I would actually I would believe to many consumers Would be more valuable And the types of reviews That you're asking for, Liam To people like us

Way more satisfying What I like is When I look at a review for a food place And they tell me how good the food is And then how expensive it is With a separate metric Where it'll be like Three dollar signs

Four dollar signs I like that As a part of the review Tell me how good the product is And then the value for it Give me them separately Now you guys Have your price here

About the price Your points are not mutually exclusive They're not They're both right But the difference is that What you want is good for now And in the long run It has no value

No lasting value Whereas the critic Tim Rogers will be good forever Because this talks about The game in its package Without anything exclusive What I would say Is that they're the same value

But one is spread out And one is right now Because if I have 30 If I'm a kid They have 30 bucks Of course And the choices Between ground zeroes

And like Three or four PS1 games On PS3 or whatever You get the PS1 games Because you can't buy ground zeroes Because you're a kid Also, no But I mean like

The value of opposition Are hugely important Also, yours are limited To the region that The game is released in For its placement You know what I mean Like everything that affects

The cost Means you need a different Set of reviews But also like In theory But also like in Japan Ground zeroes is 20 bucks For everybody

Yeah And if they look at our reviews And say what it got a four That's horseshit And Liam, I think There are extremes On both of our examples Yeah

Which both of our points Become total nonsense I think that you're mostly right About the ground zeroes thing And I think that I personally think that Is a reasonable price But many others wouldn't

Yeah But I personally think It falls more on your thing But if you were say Putting out a fucking game Like Super Hexicon For $30 Yeah

At that point Like the review should be zero Because like Fuck everything about it But Super Hexicon Is like a buck and it's awesome I agree that there's extremes Where you're paying

An extraneous amount But for this game Where like just to finish All the mainline content Minimum five, six hours 30 bucks is not Remember like two or three podcasts ago

When we heard that Ground zeroes could be completed In like an hour And I think me and I think maybe it was Pattered really I was making fun of it We were both going

That's ridiculous Like that's the $40 That's for two hours But that was before They dropped the price Yeah And they dropped the price And it was elaborated

On how much Yeah, there was more If there's something That allows you to I guess like Categorize Your expectations That you know

We're talking about Dollar games here We're talking about apps Yeah Now that we've established this This one's really good Right You can then

Categorize And you can Compartmentalize And make a better decision But I've been listening A lot of podcasts For a lot of time

Has a lot of game reviewers On it And one of the problems That has been Plaguing the whole review Industry Is this exact issue And the ideas

Come up on numerous Occasions from different Publications And games And we're only referenced Ones that were the same Review $40 games Against $40 games

In the $40 games bracket And that completely falls Apart Right away I still maintain Who's $40 Are we talking about What region

What time I still maintain That the only way to do it Is to separate The quality of the game And the value proposition Into two different scores You know what

I would be very happy If you got a Very critical And I don't mean like Negative I mean like Critical Absorbent

This is the game This is how good it is And then You have at the bottom You have a separate Like two paragraphs About its value proposition How much am I getting

And how good is the month I have a question for you Would you like to see Your reviews Also talk about And rate The pre-order Things you get

And or limited edition Things you get Absolutely Things that are not On the disc Absolutely I would love To see a Dark Souls 2 review

That takes into account Those fucking Pre-order weapons Your art books And all that stuff I would love to see A Call of Duty review From Modern Warfare 2

That had a full paragraph Devoted to a product review Of the Night Vision Goggles Like it was This week Where someone sent A solo link Or I don't think

They sent it to you Will it be saying Hey all of the Pre-order weapons For EDF Are now free For who Which weapons

I had no idea But they're free now Can you send me that I didn't see it The guy that sent it Doesn't like you So I guess that's why You didn't

Billy leaked it to us No wait he did I did see it But I didn't do it So please send to me No but that's exactly it Like different strokes Different folks

Different times What's the third game The third game Was Infamous Second Sun Yeah That game's good And I have some critiques On Infamous Second Sun

What are your critiques So for reference I finished it last night Oh okay So I planted it last night Oh I finished both sides of the game Collected everything

Oh that feels like a game That'd be easy to get 100% in It was very easy to get 100% in So I played it a lot How many hours did it take you It doesn't have a

I was going to say It's all about the feel It was going to be funny It was less than Ground Zeroes That you put in The first night I played for

Four hours straight And I got to After the neon A bit after the neon Yeah And it must have been another Four hours to complete the game I think it was 10 hours

200% You blew through that I think it was 10 hours 200% And then Four hours for A second play through Maybe three quarters through

And I've already spent More time than that Right Well I like to Puts around And look at stuff So I played through it

And as much as it Like I've never been a huge Fan of Infamous at all But I jumped on this one Okay How much of the first two Did you play? I played Festival of Blood

To 100% And I beat the first one Didn't touch two That's kind of weird Actually Yeah I know So I jumped on this one And I got to say

My biggest criticism With the game Is an unfortunate one And it's that You can feel That Sucker Punch Isn't a big enough team To pull this off

That's the weird thing They're about 100 They're under 100 people What hearts Well I'm going to elaborate I'm going to elaborate So they're about 100 people That isn't huge

For an open world game And it's impressive That they can make a game This good And this polished Because it's polished It's really fucking polished But it's got some problems

We're like It's only got six enemy types And three of them Aren't fun to fight Because they're just Damage sponges Yeah You're totally right about that

I'm assuming One of the types You're going to list Is the heavy I'm not even going to list them But yeah Two of the heavies Because I saw your tries

Against the heavies Not fun to fight They didn't go so well While I was streaming And it's to the point Where I kill all the minor enemies To build up my super attack And then use the super attack

To take out all the heavy It's not a bad strategy So there's that And then there's The difference between good and evil Is really my youth It's the most binary shit ever It's so fake

So that feels like What you said Just about they can't pull it off So they're like Well we've done this In all the other games Let's just do it Do we have enough time

To make it different? No You go to the star on the map You go to the star on the map You go to the star on the map And then when you get to A good evil split mission You go to the star on the map

But there's two right next to each other And one's good and one's evil And one is like Ruined this And the other is like Kill everyone there But they're ultimately Almost identical

I have a worse problem with that And it's the fact that The infamous gameplay system Locks powers behind good And evil levels Into the point of like There is absolutely no value In doing anything

But a pure good And a pure evil playthrough To the point Where the first decision in the game And would make the game a lot better Is if you just said I want to be a hero Or I want to be infamous

And because Neon's a good example Of this problem Because Neon If you do a headshot The guy becomes obliterated And you get evil karma And it can cause chain reactions

If you shoot him in the legs It incapacitates him And it's easier to get Your super move But both are available All the time Since I'm already four Levels deep in a good

There's no point to Ever headshot those dudes And in fact Doing so is a mistake And is a failure Yeah In between they're hard So they don't bother

My big issue with that Is when you get to those mission splits And you're like good evil You can't even go on the one That you're not aligned with Oh, wow If you're bad You can't go on the good one

You're stuck on the past What you can do is You can grind And you will fucking have to grind And it's a lot easier To go from good to bad Than it is the other way Maybe, I'm not sure

I'll need two purists Because you can kill civis You're right, you can kill Yeah, that's true Killing civis makes you bad But to be good You need to do drugs There's no endless line

Of old ladies To help cross the street No, no Or there are But they're really far apart Yeah, exactly So you get super locked on And that's clearly the intent

Is to lock you on the one And I think that really isn't The best Because then There's never a gray zone Where you're like I agree with this guy this time No, tough

You're the wrong color And yeah, it goes so weird Because I just Found the third conduit And it gets no point Where it's like I am 95% good And then it's

Be good or evil Like, why the fuck Would I pick evil now? Yeah And fuck my playthrough It's not the right point To pick there Yeah, exactly

So the game's just got Tons of little things Like that And one of the other things Is all the powers Are not as developed As any of the powers Yeah, you're saying that to me

And that's really the trade-off I think was You got one in the first I think three in the second And You got two in the second Two in the second There were three

But you could have two But there was three developed Yeah And in this one There are The problem with two More than three I don't want to spoil it

But there's quite a few The problem with two Is that one of those Extra powers you got Was way better Oh, I see it But in exchange These current ones

Are way more interesting Than fucking fire electricity Oh, they are This is a typical element Played out They are super weird They are, but they're not as developed I got the third one

And I was baffled at how it works So they're more interesting But they're less developed Yeah, like Liam They're more varied But like in the first game And I'm a bit rusty on this But I'm pretty sure if you went good

You could get a cluster bomb For your grenade Yeah And if you went bad It was a different thing That your grenade would do Yeah Like they would change

Radically based on that No, in the first one Good Your grenade Would subdue people Without killing them And the red one The cluster grenade

Anyway, like they changed In this one it's less of that And it's more like Oh, just enjoy These different things Which is still fun When the reader died DLC comes out

I'm coming to your house Dude, it's already out It just does Can you help me go road And read my powers They're releasing the missions Over six weeks And guess what

It's already out And it doesn't work It works today It works today It works now I beat the mission It says upload your fucking Gameplay

To the internet Paper powers In the instant I did it It's like not It fucked up It was overloaded Then I went and signed on On the website

And here's how to link it To PSN Hit the PSN button on this page And there's no PSN button on the page But it's working today It's working I saw it

Great It's gonna take weeks To get that power But it is super that Because you see the character In the first mission And she looks cool Yeah, she looks really cool

Wait, it's a specific You see her With the power In the first mission It's not like Actually A lookalike Of Yomi Komeiman

No, it's not She's wearing a schoolgirl The uniform But they're going for it Oh, they're going for it Yeah, they're super going for it I'm so excited But yeah, no paper power

Until six weeks from now Which sucks Because I finished the game already Right, did there An actual reader die game That came out For such a system? I don't think so

Maybe That campaign is so confusing Because you're like I can It's fine I can 100% this game In a weekend If I really went for it

In two days And you're gonna have This week long DLC thing No, whatever They gotta retain those copies The other thing was I did my streams

Metal Gear Solid 5 Infamous Second Son They were super fun They went really well Thanks to everyone for tuning in The next one's gonna be in April And it's gonna be for the outlast Whistleblower DLC

Too spooky for me Dude, it's too spooky for Liam It is Gotta get those blinds open Turn the lights on Do your thing No, no, if you're gonna be streaming You close all that shit up

No, that's his method That's my thing The only reason why he streams it is Because he views other people It's too scary Are you serious? You big babies Yeah, yeah

At least I've finished the games I've finished the games Yeah, so I don't know if I should Show my Twitch channel again But I won't To be F Liam To be F Liam on Twitch There you go

Oh shit, my phone's already going on Right Why? And I'll preemptively answer Like a bunch of emails Excuse me, I'm sorry Excuse you That came in about like

Oh, right Streams in general and us And to the channel And I think that The answer is like in terms of Will we ever do a stream type thing Probably once we have the website Going and we have

And once we have a clear plan We have a clear plan For that type of thing Because it's a bit different From videos and stuff But like we definitely Want to have fun with the website And put out different types of videos

On it So I think streaming I'm thinking about it I think streaming could be a thing You know What have you done with your life? Oh, my life has been interesting In general, I mean

Yeah, I did a bunch of things this week But I'm going to narrow it down to three One Go get yourself some water, sir Are you dying? I'm dying here Oh, finally Oh, that's not great

Just die on the podcast Three best friends play No worry about it What's up, guys? Viewership skyrocket Instantly Phone's already going off Because everyone hopes it was Matt

Or Willie or the Oms Stop the press inside Like, okay Because that's the thing I was going to say it's like If he quits, no But if he dies, yes If YouTube lets players die

It's not good But if you die, it's still fun It's amazing Oh, it's better It's better We should have a hoax death No, we shouldn't Even if you're joking

No, we shouldn't Why hoax it? Of course not Because then we don't actually have to kill someone Yeah, I should get Willie Pat looks like he has a feeling of calm On his face tonight Yeah, it does

He gets in the limbo And just have this skeleton With a red hair on it Just flying to the air Yeah, perfect A red fright wig This week Perfect

The three things I did Well, I'll start it with the first I too went through a lot of ground zeroes Ah, how much ground zeroes? About five and a bit hours in Are you done? I'm not 100% no Are you still playing it?

I'm going to go back For one or two little things But interestingly enough You have a higher percentage than Liam Who's played longer Because he used the guide To get the clock I got the XOF badge

Just looking at a guide And that's the only thing I did with that Well, no, and then you did Deja Vu Oh, of course I walked a bunch of stuff Of course Yeah, you're right

But then I immediately reverted To doing things the old fashioned way But there is no way in goddamn hell I'm going to deny myself My ride in mission I don't care You understand So I did

I got that And I think a really important thing To mention too as well I put the fucking Facebook status update On my thing Yesterday was by God

Get those Chico tapes Yes, they changed the game They changed the games fundamentally Did they make Chico not shit? Yes Good, that's amazing And Chico's going to be even better In the Phantom Pain

And any and every other question You have If the answer is going to be yes Because They really Like you play through the game You get the story You go, oh, okay

Wow And then you get those And everyone you get Is just more like Holy fucking shit Skullface The most cartoony fucking like Saturday morning

Skelaminia The most cartoony villain in a Metal Gear game Yeah In terms of overall attitude And you're like What were they thinking with this guy And then you get to hear More out of him

And you go, oh my god This is Probably the most devious villain In this universe You get to know what I said I don't think it's Galvez No, you're super right Like when you were saying

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah You played it I was just like No, this is not This is not a character Different personality Speaking of Galvez I did not play Peace Walker

I played very little How is the synopsis That is in Ground Zero's For Peace Walker Okay If you just need Or if you feel comfortable With getting a summarized version

Of the events that occurred It's eight pages of text More than that Well, it's eight pages of text Summarizing it And then more additional stuff You've got eight pages of text Right

You've got the loading screens That give you a bit more detail On the world of Brawl The pre-mission briefing pretty much You've got a pre-mission briefing That is a series of tapes With you talking at Kaz Breaking down the events going on

In between Peace Walker Is this one? No, it's more of a catalog The Peace Walker It adds on and it connects the two And then you've got All of Paz's tapes From Peace Walker

From Peace Walker Which bring her Which basically I can listen to Every single one of Paz's tapes That were in Peace Walker In this It brings you up to speed with the character

It brings you up to speed with the character Exactly And it gets you a lot of the backstory So you get more than enough If you just need a primer Yeah Man, I'm a Peace Walker Now personally

I wanted more than a primer So I went back And I watched all the cut scenes Because I wanted to see the shit Hear the shit No one, you know Did you watch it? Good one Where it puts in gameplay

Yeah, that's probably the same one I watched Okay, can you send me that? Yeah, sure Because I prefer that But it's like I've tried on four occasions To get into Peace Walker And it never goes

Those boss fights are fucking terrible They're awful They're not Metal Gear boss fights It's definitely It's the weird one out Of the series And it has Is it?

No, poops it Is it? Can you imagine? Is it a different thing? But not in terms of Not just so much gameplay But in terms of the singing And the music and stuff

It's so far out there From every other game That's mostly because Henry Gregson Williams had nothing to do with it Whereas he did every other game The last couple of games That would probably make sense I was gonna say though

You were talking about How you watched the whole thing Yeah, yeah, yeah And I was telling you how My interpretation of all of that Was like it seems like They're shitting on the boss And then you looked at it

And then you said I think it might be this And I'm like Maybe you're right That is more interesting Yeah But imagine if they actually did Wind up calling that game

Metal Gear Solid 5 Like originally intended That would have been bad That would have been a nightmare And if it was a handheld Version of the title With the number on it What's wrong with that?

The last wouldn't have done that But that's just your bias No, but that's the entire west No, it wouldn't Everyone in the world I would be totally fine with it Also, I would say Peace Walker Isn't good enough to be called

Metal Gear Solid 5 It's not good enough Okay, okay Let's not get into This is another 10 minutes We can save right now And just say It's comfortable for you

The rest of the world Would totally not be good enough That's a gross generalization The rest of North America If you bring a series like MGS Onto a handheld Drop the number on it there And just go like

Kingdom Hearts-style Like play it or don't It's fine Castlevania starts at Symphony of the Night Well, Liam I'm saying If you don't think That would be a problem for people

You're nuts I disagree with you In every single situation In regards to this numbering scheme Except for SMT-4 Which was fine There you go, exactly Which was fine

That SMT-4 is not known For its lavishly long And highly produced cut scenes No, for sure But all I'm saying is There's a bias That's all That's all

I'm not saying It should be a bias And I would also say That you have the opposite bias Yeah, you love handhelds So you're okay with it But again, that's all I'm saying I'm not saying it should be even fun

You're right There is a bias everywhere On everyone's side I could imagine MGS 6 comes out And it's like last time MGS 5 And some guy goes

When did that come out? What? I need to buy a fucking handheld? What? No, for sure And like Even beside the bias argument Like let's all not forget

How Kingdom Hearts destroyed itself Destroyed itself That's why I think drama That's why I said it It's the worst ever It's unfathomable You know, you can't You need it to own

Every console And handheld For the past six years Except a PS3 Except a PS3 And I think it's an MGS Is one of the few Japanese AAA franchises left There's no way they do that

But anyway Put in a ton of time on that So do you think it has value? I think it has For $30 I think it has a fuck ton of value I think Considering my percentage is at

Like, yeah, 40-something And I did Hard playthroughs of the missions I went for my I tried to do an S-rank run And stuff like that It's tough It's not easy

But it was interesting though Because I was playing it And my girlfriend was there watching at the same time Going through the Just the main mission And so she saw the events unfold And then we listened to the Chico tapes afterwards And like

It's one of those things where Again, not going to get into spoilers or anything But I was surprised Where her reaction to it was She was actually unfazed by some of that stuff Because she was like This is war Horrible things happen

Exactly, it's fiction and it's war Like, whatever So I was like That's interesting Because you are not exposed to enough Like, media in that Like, you would come to the conclusion That, oh no, this is a line you should never cross

In books or movies or whatever It's like, no, fuck that This is war Horrible things go down Unfortunately, anything goes It's war And it's very clear to you You can see it in the trailer as well

Like, the game is a very heavy commentary On Guantanamo Bay Yeah Over the top And like, there's a final There's a final sort of like line That more or less cements that Like, it's a really big statement on that whole thing

The other thing I did This weekend was Beat, quote unquote, Titanfall Both campaigns They're like single player campaigns The single player that's actually just multiplayer With audio dial-ons Yeah, exactly

So I admire that they actually did it Yeah, no, so I sat down And I played a whole bunch of Titanfall And like, the moment you press start On that game, it's like Oh boy, oh boy What do you mean?

Oh boy These, okay The menus, the production Everything that Is bringing you to gameplay Is so bare-bones dry, dude Like, rushed Demo-style menus

Like, nothing Like, some of the HUD elements look like A 1995 game Like, creature shock or something You know, like when you're making a multiplayer thing It's like, get the person to the game now And they make Platinum did that with Wonderful 101 as well

That's true Like, it happens And some devs just don't But even in terms of like Trying to get your story across And trying to put Like, there was no money spent All the focus was put into

Outside of the game Yo, you're getting a robot and shoot guns Yeah, exactly So how's getting into a robot and shooting You get in the robot, you shoot the guys It's fun It's really, the gameplay itself Is totally fun and fun

The rodeo system is Genius, it's really smart Really good minute-to-minute gameplay Yeah, and you're generally having a blast with it I think How's the gameplay loop? Loop? The core loop

Is there a lot of grounds for that? Kill, die, respawn Kill, die, respawn In general, I think The problem, the main problem with the gameplay Is lack of content There is one, there is Your weapons, we counted them off today

With my friend at work There's eleven, I think, in total And that's counting the four Titan weapons Four Titan weapons I was just gonna ask, is that counting fucking You've got the shotgun The sniper The smart gun

The machine gun The rail gun Like, you've got the thing And then that's it You know, there's like Sound like really interesting weapons to me But when you're, I mean, and again You can only do so much, man

You're Interacted a lot You can customize Interact wasn't multiplayer There was What? There's two, there's three Interact games

There was, there was I don't know I don't know, I've been super wrong Yeah, they didn't just make those crazy guns for nothing I thought it was a single-player manly Bore your friend's brains out Oh, shut up But yeah

They really just went for like The core, basic thing They, I don't know if they didn't have time or money Or what, but They didn't have money No money And small teams Small teams

Putting their feet in the water Trying it out, you know I think it'll be very clear that Titanfall 2 Will definitely be Much more bombastic Because they know what they're doing And you'll probably have cutscenes And story, like

Delivered to you I feel like most of the weapon was spent on the giant statue We saw at E3 Made of real Titan eggs And the other thing too was like You jump into Titan And it feels cool It feels good

You're like, yeah, cool, I'm in a mech I've got four screens, it's nice And you feel great And then you see some footage though Of like Hawkin, for example Where you go, oh, that's what being in a mech Should feel like Let me ask you a question

How do you feel about the fact that So many of the actors In a multiplayer match are bots It's made so that People can get a slow start And then work their way up Into the actual fight So it really is just

Like Dota creeping If you can't handle the player players Go shoot the bots for a while And you can do that And you can do that But you're gonna be on the bottom of the list You're not gonna get anything But you can at least feel

Like you did a thing Because to be fair You get your training module And then after that If you've never touched any kind of game like this And you have only multiplayer Time to get smoked How could you possibly get into the game?

So that's why that's there And there's no way to turn them off So I get turned off the cloud But the proper battle is always happening In a very clear area on the map Where the players are fucking going at it Rodeoing and tightening and going nuts And you jump in that mess

If you want to get into it The thing about Titanfall though So I went through both campaigns I unlocked about half the content in the game I did all this in the span Of about four and a half hours I spent one night Basically unlocking 50% of that game

It has less in it than Ground Zeroes does But no one mentioned anything about that That's the fucking thing That's what you said before That's why I said hold that thought Middle Gear Ground Zeroes has more guns in it Than Titanfall Tots And granted you're supposed to play multiplayer

So that's the deal That's how it gets away Absolutely, apples and oranges The campaign on both sides is roughly the same With different skins You know what I mean? You can't make a direct comparison The fact that people are getting up in arms

About Metal Gear's value And Titanfall really has less content than that Well Titanfall's entire raison d'etre Is intrinsic desire to play more Titanfall To get good at it Which could be other people The same could be said for Ground Zeroes But I can totally feel though

That if it took me less than half a day To get half the content It's going to take a week tops to get all of it And then you're going to cap out And then you're going to prestige Which I think is in the game I don't know And that value proposition gets even weirder

Because of how you play the single player There are a huge amount of people There are huge groups of people Myself included When I played Call of Duty I got home And for Call of Duty 4 I played the single player

For Black Ops I played the single player For Black Ops 2 I don't care anymore I made it boot to multiplayer And never touched it They know who they're selling it to After a certain amount of time

Those campaigns evaporate into nothing And so this not having a campaign Is almost like Not like who cares Almost in a way It's weird It wouldn't be the first game to do it either But like yeah

But I wish they did that with Battlefield I was Battlefield had no campaign And it came out working Now being pushed online Into multiplayer matches for my story mode Is not necessarily the problem at all It's more just that what story you do get Is so piecemeal

It's so like This is all we got for you It's almost like why do they even bother? Why do they bother? Because the most dramatic moment Of the story happens In a little vid window PNP at the top of your screen

And you don't even look at it Because you're trying not to fucking get killed Call of Duty Battlefield Need no context for what the The situation is But a fantastical world with fucking robots Need some sort of context as to why You're doing this

You need a type to really disagree But no And no respawn felt that they needed to be There's also giant monsters There's dragons There'll be dragons Like for Battlefield What was it?

2142 I didn't give a shit Why there were like flying fortresses With generators that I had to blow up Okay here's what it is You know what I just thought of it This is like This is the equivalent of like gameplay

To story mode Is like in Street Fighter single player You get to your rival battle And then the rival battle has a couple moments Where Gile goes This will be over in 10 seconds During the fight

And you have a little back and forth dialogue And you're like Yeah that was a cool thing But you're still playing fighting game And then at the end it's the same thing And that's what the story is It's a little bit of audio And a little bit of video

Dropped over your HUD As you're trying to play multiplayer So it's like the story mode of a fighting game Transposed into a shooter It's totally disposable And there's nothing there I feel like they could have done something for the story Like take those little bits out of the multiplayer

But put some sort of briefing Option little like Like a slideshow No there is a briefing Where you're waiting for people to join the game And then the next dialogue Like exchange plays out And then on your dropship

There's a little cutscene That leads into like a little bit of fun stuff with NPCs Yeah I think that's cool There's some fun NPC moments Going in and coming out of the missions But again Really bare bones Really pushed out the door

Is it weird to me that like the robots are cool But the thing that I find way way way cooler In that games game play More than the bots And more than the titans Is the dropship stuff Near the end of the map Escaping at the end

The fact that like when it's like Well you lost Yeah Now fucking run Yeah yeah yeah Don't respawn And apparently you can blow the dropship up Yes totally did

I've blown up a dropship I've been in a dropship that got blown up That sounds awesome Yeah so everyone escapes into it Or they try to You crush them on the way to it And the few who are about to get away Get killed anyway

Because you blow up the dropship And it's just for fun Yeah but that's really good But you get XP for it I forget what multiplayer game it was But I was playing something where Basically you would win And the team that won

Would still respawn For a full minute But the team that lost would not And so you would literally just Exterminate them from the map The one I always think of is TF2 Where all the gates just open up And like the losers can't shoot anymore

Yeah Blowing up the dropship Seems like the fighting game Equivalent of taunting Before the round fades away Yeah it's the third strike ending hit Into a taunt Yeah a taunt look

The super taunt after the animation Yes yes yes keep it going For the whole time The other thing too is that I don't play a ton of FPSs obviously No you don't But I'm Did you get ill?

I didn't Oh good I didn't Weird because that game is like fast No I had a blast Like ejecting and landing on the next Titan And taking it out is super sick And the one thing though

Is that you're looking at the multiplayer modes And stuff And it seems to be it's missing some things That have become essential core Like multiplayer options Like if you're going into A playlist of maps That you want to play

You can't really customize it too much You can't When you customize your loadouts And name them That's weird I can't veto When there's maps No you know

If there's no maps So I can't do anything And you know what That's awesome Matt vetoing is the fucking worst It is so bad I agree with you just It's a standard

Some surprise that it got The ability to choose maps And like console shooters Is the fucking worst Because I want to play all the maps But guess what It wasn't a conscious choice It was

We were not putting that feature You don't have time for it You know I have 60 people to work with here Yeah That being said I do think you guys All should come give it a spin

Yeah I'll definitely give it a shot myself I will wait for Titanfall 2 Oh I will also Well If you happen to be over And the controller's there

You should probably I'll give it a shot I'll give it a shot I'll give it a shot Your place But I'd much rather Just wait for Titanfall 2 Hopefully

Cool On PS4 Or maybe on Steam And Who am I kidding And just before I would Roll out with this longest intro To the podcast ever

Yeah We had stuff to talk about Man As for Honorary 33rd 32nd 33rd I blasted through my section Because I wanted to get to the news

But you're such a good guy You're such You're the best guy now Well Liam Maybe I can talk to you about this I watched The first couple episodes Of

Watamote Oh yeah No kidding What do you think of that It's pretty funny Yeah it is Because I asked you Like what is this show

That I keep seeing screenshots of Yeah Where she's saying This girl's saying some fucked up shit She's saying some fucked up shit And like it's totally I think I just told you Just she's a loser

And she knows it Yeah It's your fault That I'm not popular Or whatever It's not my fault That I'm not popular What is this

What the fuck are you talking about It's anime Where a girl is not popular And it's not her fault That she's not popular So imagine if there was Another member Imagine if there was another member

Of the Azumaga Diotroop Except she was the reject That no one liked Yeah And they didn't hang out with her And they didn't hang out with her And she can't She can barely talk

And she's having the worst High school experience of her life And she's a super like Not he Kokimori But She's just a super stupid Huge nerd Yeah and she has

Like the hardest No like us She has the hardest And social Social Personalities And so you just Go through the journey of

Her brain Like Processing life Dude did you get to the bit Where she gets the soda All over her And there's just ants All over her

No I didn't Oh man That cracks me up every time I didn't Did they get to the make up bit Yeah yeah yeah I got to that You just

And it's just It's really funny Because you get to see Like the thought process Of someone who is again Super anti-social Can't deal with people In crowds and everything

And you laugh at them And going into like A store being like Oh what should I be doing now What's the right thing To be doing on my own And Oh no the cashier

Just asked me You know And like Everything is Wacking me a little too close to home I know I know You're getting a little uncomfortable

But it's funny And I think you should Check it out You might enjoy it Watch me watch it And get super pissed next week For sure I like when she's like

Oh what do the popular kids do I should do this But fails to understand Why she can't succeed at that I'm clearly so popular Look I had Three people talk to me last month Yeah

I am the queen I'm the shit Well You know I was telling you that Over the weekend I watched Me Girls

With some friends And then There was no place to sit In the cafeteria So the person Went into the bathroom To start eating And it reminded me

Of that weird thing about In Japanese schools Like 90% of all kids Eat in the bathroom That sounds like A pretty inflated thing It was a high number 60% of the statistics

Are made up You know that It was a high percentage Of kids saying I'm too socially I don't want to be In the cafeteria I'm going to eat

In the bathroom I can believe that There's a high percentage Of that The eating thing Just reminds me of a bit In the show where She's like

Maybe I'll be popular If I'm that girl That eats too much In class I'll just I'll start eating lunch Before it's lunchtime And they'll be like

Oh there she is Getting all hungry And then she just Ends up being like That freak That fucking smells like Food And everyone just looking

They're like What the fuck is wrong with this girl She's like And she's scarving it down Is it cute? She's just like Oh they don't know The character archetype

They don't understand it It's not my fault I'm not popular That's funny Yeah I'm enjoying it As soon as we're just in And her friend Do she's super jealous

Yeah yeah There's stuff Yeah And oh god In a parody's anime So hard There's that death note Moment where she starts

She's playing Does she eat a chip? She doesn't eat a chip But she's playing Like a dating sim On a computer Stop talking about that one scene And death note

No No Stop talking Because I'm talking about The scene right now She's playing a dating sim On her computer And like

She's clicking the mouse As if she's writing Doing the Dramatically The swerves And it's the chip eating scene Basically So I don't know if you caught

That it was super popularized On 4chan On A Of course it would be No but it really was To the point where Of course When the first volume

Of it came out in Japan It had a label on the front Like popular On foreign Image cards What? Yeah for real You can look it up

That's too meta Yeah That's insane And the Japanese one Sold well Internationally Cheese Yeah

And that's why It got brought over here Well There's a lot of International grounds Well behind this No What is

What is the artist Of Yatsuba Think about The use of his character Fuck if I know He must know At this point I guess

Fuck if I know Yeah Anyway Ask him on Twitter Is he that easy to get to? I don't know Next week in game magazines We'll find out

It doesn't apply It applies to everything Every time you say that I want to punch Kamiya And then apologize Sorry And let him punch you back Yeah

Don't worry though He's okay Yeah he's okay That's okay That's good I know I know I know

Anyway We might as well get into Game news I suppose I suppose You mean the news Yeah we have Any this week We had some

We're not going to get to All of it at this rate But Let's start off With something We need to address Oh Last week

We talked about Project Wrestling X When Kickstarter's still on going Right Kickstarter's still on going It's the game that We

We saw and mentioned that It is inspired by The Aki Wrestling games Yeah And you know All that stuff So apparently there's a Troubled history behind the

Projects The instant that Hardcast came up I had people messaging me Going what the fuck Are you guys doing Yeah So there's a lot of

I looked some stuff up And I got worried We got a bunch of messages From both sides Of the Of the fence Of it Yeah

And that Like there's totally a history Where this game was around For many years prior To this Kickstarter I want to say like Eight years They've been working on it

For I think it was Four Later Well I think it was But it's been around forever I don't want to throw a number Out if it's wrong

But ultimately they've been Working on it for Over five six years You know And It had Before Kickstarter Gone through other

Like fundraising sorts of Campaigns Before Kickstarter Existing Yeah So there were a lot of people That backed in Where is it

Where is it Where is it coming along And stuff Ultimately As new people Like I don't know All the details in history

But the One of the guys Showed up on The Reddit Yeah And he posted a big Response to Everyone who was

Making claims about Like what was going wrong With it and stuff And he responded to them I can't make a judgment call I don't know I looked at a bunch of stuff And it's like

There's a Whatever Whatever the side That this falls on This project is Like kind of a mess And has It's shady

Like even if it's Even if it's not Like Even if it's not true Yeah Like there is Like there's some worry To me

Behind it I wouldn't even go that far To me I would just say Yeah it's probably too far I would just honestly say That like There's a troubled history And

Apparently there was like One programmer that Just left and Kind of fucked him over And started a lot of this Trouble But regardless of that I just

I would like to see a build I'd like to hope that This comes out And is a playable cool game Because cool games are fun Yes Of course And like

It sucks that It's not just a clean Six-star event It sucks that It sucks that when I went To look at it And like Was getting it super hype

Like instead I found out Yeah It's really unfortunate That like a bunch of people Were like Ah no I do this thing You know and stuff And it's like

Ah man I really Like I was almost like Is it too good to be true Can we really get that Acky feeling again Maybe Maybe But the answers

Really that's what I wanted To say is It's not no It's who knows So So attentive listener Please be warned That I don't know

Go read Go read Back in at your own At your own What's the word Discretion Well Even that's a bit intense

I'd say go read I read it And I pulled out Okay You want me to be honest Like back at your own Discretion Yeah

I was going to I was going to give money And then I was like This is too weird Okay well let me You know The developers the most Of course

Out of all you guys Sure And I put money in Yeah After I heard Everything they had to say And I was I was speaking to someone

That Is possibly Working with the artist Or something along those Lines as well That Was kind of Clarifying a few things

I'm I'm Looking to see Footage in a build That's why I'm that And if I If I see that And if I see something

That looks like Awesome that I can play A very small Playable Bit of the game And you know Like again I spoke to them a bunch

And the guy clarified To me Like in Very huge amount of detail About the whole Genesis of the thing It's like We know we made mistakes

Before Because Kickstarter Wasn't even exist We didn't have a way To contact Everyone that Through us some money And like

Maybe if we had started This When Kickstarter started We would have avoided All these problems And miscommunication Contacted us back That programmer

For example And everything That he said to me And I looked And to that Big reddit post Of a guy Claiming all this stuff

I was You know Inclined to like I think I have enough information To think this So after that After I decide I'm like

Well I put money Into it after that point And I find that The amount that they wanted To finish the project $6,000 Fair To be a very

Non-shady amount Of money To want I was also wondering That seems like This is what we need To finish this This is what we need

To pay the guys But that's also why I was wondering Like how come that's so low Because this game looks Way So hard because The original Kickstarter

Was way too high And they were like There's not enough People that want this So instead of Making 30 playable characters Let's make two And just give people

A suite of options To make their own And now that I know about history It makes a bit more sense That there was stuff before this But when I went in Going like They're gonna start this

From the ground up for 6K Hell But now we know I am totally Like just over the line On caution If a build and footage comes out Then that'll

And it's good Then it'll kick me back Over to the other side I'll go back to being hype But at this point It's like Yeah, no I at this point

Like having read this stuff I'm like Okay, I'm on the side I'm not wasting you But like You spent $200,000 On that That was not true

But How much money was it? It was zero The grant was from Canada And when that grant was given They give it to you in increments And then Canada was like Let's support indie game developers

They cancelled it Let's not support them And they took the money back That sucks That's good And this was years ago That sucks and is good Yeah

It makes any sense And it's good Because it was telefun Canada or whatever But it's also telefilm Telefilm Thank you I also kind of wonder

Why they'd be backing this In the first place But anyway, that's besides the point I really want my caution To look misguided Given that that didn't happen Then like Yeah, I'll wait and see

What happens Yeah Even if you decide After the project They still have a paypal Up for the Like if anyone wants to Throw us something

After Like there's a paypal So that if I turn out To be stupid and wrong Which I hope I am I can Oh, of course And that's exactly it

I mean, for me I just I want to let the bill speak for itself And that's what I'll base my opinion on I'm not to the point of saying Like, oh no, pull out, pull out But I just I want to play and see it

Pull out though Because my dreams are all I'm hoping I'm just hoping, you know But And that being said Yeah, like We all are different people

We can have different opinions We don't need to come at a topic And go There's like bats who says Like, no Like, this is what's up Why? So

Exactly We have real thoughts And things that I don't have real thoughts Well, maybe not I'm being told what to do by a script You'd need a sold For having real thoughts

Oh, you bastard So, you know So, yeah Why you do this Now that the elephant's out of the room Let's go Yeah, we kicked the elephant out He fell down the stairs

He hit his head Poor thing Yeah, let's Stuck in your staircase right now How are we gonna leave Yeah, the windows The windows, I guess Two floor

Well, maybe Or you're here forever To write on him in Far Cry 4 What? You can ride elephants In Far Cry 4 What is that? I'm gonna buy Far Cry 4

There's something about that Because the setting Is being changed to the Himalayas I really like that Nice Yeah Like, I never thought A random sentence like that

Would suddenly be like Oh, whoa, that's interesting Snowy setting This Far Cry's been like Like, you know Tropical Or kind of desert-like Tropical

Forest Well, Africa Trees Yo Like, there is I feel like now With Assassin's Creed And Far Cry

And who knows Whatever else is out there In the works There's an arms race For interesting locations Around the world And haven't been Competing against itself

Yeah, that haven't been Done to death I bet That there was a guy On the fucking Assassin's Creed team That he comes in And he's like

Hey, how's Far Cry doing? And he sees that some of the Himalayas Fuck God damn it But you know what? That must have happened to them So many times Oh, totally

That they're just like Up, okay But Far Cry 2 is going to be Putting Renaissance Italy I'm going to say, what do you mean We can't put Far Cry 2 in Acre What do you mean? What do you mean?

It probably happened to them So much that they started Option selecting their games Yeah Like the leaked Assassin's Creed Unity What is that? That's so confusing

Leaked And then announced Leaked and then announced Because Obsturgo forced their hand Oh, Obsturgo Assassin's Creed Unity Is the next gen Oh, current gen only

It's going to be like A full year before We stop making that mistake For reference, there's two Assassin's Creed's coming out Yes Although it's a latter one We have no information on

Well, let's take it Piece by piece We have Assassin's Creed Unity It is on PS4 and X-Bone And PC And PC It is the game That takes place

During the French Revolution You see some very beautiful Video and screenshots Of that it looks Very pretty Climbing Eiffel Tower It didn't exist back then So why are you based in this country?

Dude, that's like that Well, France is a nice country I knew that's what your answer was It's a real Eiffel Paris Having actually been to France Like it's a really nice Interesting place Let's make a game in New York

Let's not have to The Statue of Liberty Liam, you're totally right But at the same time It's like I feel if you're going to Get a specific city Sure

And a game about Climbing on shit Like not having the coolest One of the coolest No, fuck it The coolest climbable thing in the world Not in the game Hey man, I played the Saboteur

I think it's got I'm good Did you climb that entire time? I climbed the whole thing Notre Dame should be there The playoff is cool Liam, did you climb the The

Notre Dame? No, the Eiffel Tower In the Saboteur Yeah No, I just went to The fucking Bar Oh, yeah Went to the Cavalry Clubs

Climbing the school You know The end of the game Leachy there anyway Alright, fair enough I didn't actually Can you blow it up? You cannot blow it up

Good But you can jump off the top It's the ultimate leap of faith Can you survive? You landed You could jump into the river You landed a cart of straw And you're totally fine

I was going to say You could probably jump into the river But it's pretty far No, you got a parachute Did anyone find it weird That the trailer for Unity Is the exact same trailer For Assassin's Creed 1?

Dude, the trailer That they were forced to make In 48 hours Yeah They literally cobbled that together Because they're like Fuck, we got leaked No, the trailer is the exact same

Comfort for Assassin's Creed 1 It's empty streets And then people Sound effects Clamoring for someone to get killed Either via hanging Or by a guillotine Then an assassin

Staring down And that's it Well, because they're restarting the franchise It is unfortunately The simplest way to show your engine Like, unfortunately Yeah, that is true And it looks damn good

But no, I agree with you The composition is really fucking silly Now, it's nowhere near The drastic change I was hoping for I wanted a complete setting change No We'll wait for Comet Well, that's the hope

The hope is that Comet Goes somewhere more interesting But Comet's last gen, right? Comet's last gen And I'm hoping that Comet Is either going to be in Japan Or in... Russia

No, no, no I don't think they would do Such a drastic split Where one of them is like The one You know what I mean? But here's the thing The reason why

I say this is because AC4, there's an email That straight up... That email is fantastic We're all arguing about Where to put the next Exactly And they straight up give you

Desmond's matriarch His mother's line Matriarchal past Matriarchal past Or matriarchal line, I'd call it And the patriarchal line And You see

Going down from AC4 And Italy And so on and so forth All the different viable settings And we've used all of them With the exception of

The cowboys in the old west Yeah, of course that one Because that's where he ended up The mother was in the summer of love On the east coast Can you imagine Assassin's Creed game In the old west

Where it's like The shit armadillo town From Red Dead Redemption And you climb up The one general store And you're like Oh, yeah Synchronized

Don't look at... It's one street You would be climbing mountains And something like that, hopefully But they would dive off it Yeah, sure Into like the Apache territory Instead of...

It comes out that The next gen Or the current gen game Is Paris In the French Revolution And the fucking last gen game Is in Japan

I'm gonna be fucking pissed off Well, you know why they're doing it At that point Because the next gen one's guaranteed to sell It's the last gen one That needs the crutch Oh, fuck And that is totally

You're right I'm starving so bad Because they... I don't think they're gonna do it If it's Russia in last gen I'm gonna be double mad Because where I was going with that Is amongst the settings listed

They list a Japanese shogunate And Russia is not that Desmond line But it totally works into the fall So it's viable as well Well, I think they're not gonna do something So extreme as that I think they're just gonna have another spin-off Another Avalyne to Grand Prix?

No, maybe not Well, not her But something else And she's in where? She's in New Orleans Okay Now you play as Ezio's skeleton Yeah

They can bring it back But he still gets hot chicks One more final A management sim Hey, girl, look at all this bone I got for you We got so many to spare We put new attachments onto your hook, blade, arm, hand Bone claw

That was the weirdest advancement Because it was nice to have that extra little bit of reach And that shit's never coming back, ever No Also, I'm sorry But the Ottoman Empire, not that interesting It should have been But the writing and the plot

Just totally failed that It was so, like, whatever Either way, according to AC4 We're never gonna get a setting with cars Yeah, I love that even though They made that joke where they're just like Look, guys, we are not rewriting the Obstergo engine To add cars so that it can be boring

Because, guess what? Memories from ancestors who drove cars don't work When you sit in a car for too long, it doesn't sink properly I love how, like, on the nose Like, this is actually the real example Of, like, guess what? Driving cars in this kind of game would suck We don't want to spend the time, we don't want to do it

We barely got horses and boats off the ground Yeah Well, boats don't get off the ground What do you mean planes, right? You know what I mean Just give me a fucking, like... Got a hand glider? Give me a hand glider

Give me that And you have a weird, like, um... Michelangelo Leonardo... Not Milan, sorry, Leonardo Tank In A.C. 2 Brotherhood? Brotherhood You know, so like... Assassin's Creed for the current gen comic

Don't you have the Ornithopter as well? You got a bunch of shit Assassin's Creed comic will be Assassin's Creed Skycrime And it's all Assassin's Creed Nice What, you have, like, 30-second long missions in the sky, constantly? Yeah And your play is, like, the Wright brothers?

You can assassinate anyone you want as long as it's in the sky As long as it's in the sky So you have to kill the Wright brothers No, exactly That's it, that's the only time Kitty Hawk Yeah Man, I wonder what the boat...

Oh, no, you have to kill what surface Who just disappeared in the sky Amelia Earhart Yeah I wonder what the wrong century I wonder what... Whatever, man The boat contents of Unity is gonna be

Like, for the French Revolution Was there a lot of boat shit there? There probably isn't gonna be as much boat content at all That's gonna be super weird We're probably gonna go back to climbing And they're gonna find something I was gonna show you That screenshot had parkour up and parkour down

They had the river that told us I have to assume that you're doing all the Paris sewer shit Because Paris... Fucking ginormous, crazy sewer That's true Filmed with dead dudes Filmed with skeletons What a good point

True, but it's still not quite sailing Like, you need a gameplay... They'll probably have a different thing that fills that Boy What's your theory? Tell them your theory about the summer of love The summer of love Because that's one of the settings that they bring up

The summer of love is only, like, four years off I'm like, what are you gonna do with... A assassin' hippies And I'm like, are you gonna assassinate JFK? Cause you're gonna be cool Your bad black ops beat you to it I know, but fuck But here's why it's not gonna happen

Where did JFK get assassinated? I know where he got assassinated Where? At the fucking knoll There's cars What? In a car Yeah, that's a weird

Yeah There's already a perfect simulation game for that anyway So... Yeah Yeah I guess Anyway, the other bit going on Was GDC happening

GDC was great slash terrible Yeah There was some stuff You're totally right, Liam It was great and terrible One of the best GDC talks I've listened to And some of the worst I've heard about So there's three things that I pulled out

From the GDC thing that I guess we're talking about Okay, let's talk about it We already talked about the first one Assassin's Creed Unity trailer Bam Oh, that was... Consider a GDC thing That's where they released it

Okay The second bit would be Morpheus is a thing Yep Project Morpheus Sony's VR Oh, right, right It's all in the ground

I haven't talked about Lawrence Fishburne No For fuck's sake, that VR shit came out And I thought we talked about it last week Because it was so obvious This week was so long Yeah, no I remember PlayStation Oculus

I was streaming Ground Zeroes at the time And someone was just like, oh, Morpheus announced And I'm like, tell me things about it I can't use my internet or I'll kill the stream What do we know? It's a Sony Oculus Rift Yeah, it looks like the future glowy thing On your head that you want

Totally, yeah It's got the blue lights and everything I saw people saying, man, that looks dumb And I'm like, that looks so, like, dumb cool Yeah, it's what you want Like, to me, I... Looks like dumb future Jets and shit Well, my thing is more like, I want the Google Glass

You know, I want that kind of like Power Reader, like... You want a scouter I want a scouter You can see through it, and that's a problem You have to have a backing to it I want augmented reality more than virtual reality Oh, really?

Yeah, I do That's awkward But, uh, isn't it? It could lead to awkward things happening I want cooler things in real life than Totally fake things Yeah, totally I just want my Sword Art MMO, or Dot Hack, or whatever

I want that so bad I was complaining to Leon So that you could finally shut them all out forever I was complaining to Leon He was trying to give up on everything He was playing Ground Zeroes, and I'm like I really love how in 1985 Big Boss just takes out his fucking holograms

Yeah, yeah, yeah But that's aren't even in Metal Gear Solid 2 And they make such a point to go like Look at these cassette tapes And he puts out his holograms His cassette player And then fucking holograms And then XOF thing coming off the helicopter like

What? It's been a fucking year Technology! They established in Deja and Jame Vue that it could be any universe Yeah, yeah, the little pre-mission Jame Vue has a great opening The little pre-mission thing is fantastic The world is broken into different possibilities

They're talking about Schrodinger's cat, man Yeah Anyway, yeah, Morpheus is a thing The big sticking point with a lot of people Apparently everyone that tried it was impressed Yeah It works well The testing has been done

Very, very impressive even compared to the Oculus Especially since this came out of nowhere Could be a big, big move for like where this generation goes Sure Or it could be a huge dead end Depending on the price point and how people respond to that That being said, I'm much more interested in this than I ever was in Kinect How interested, I say, as I do the money gesture

$300 It depends $150? It's the software that counts $100 would be better You're not gonna get that Well, then, fuck it Then no one's gonna get games for it either

No one's gonna make games for something that costs as much as another console Ubisoft said they would if it sold a million units Well, it won't Ubisoft is there for launch of every device ever As they should be As they should be They know the deal If and when the server comes out

Ubisoft will be there with fighters unsold Well, for something I'm occasionally zombie you I know you I'm talking about how like for Kinect 1, fighters on cage For Kinect 2 fighters Yeah, for Kinect I know that you like strung that one out

But I like to think of it as like it didn't sell Fighters unsold They didn't sell, they're unsold Anyway, for every one of these We lost money The consumer buys We lose $60 And the other bit is

Of course, Iga did this little chat He did this little talk How to make a Metroidvania How to make a Metroidvania Is the word Metroidvania actually in that talk? Yes, the part that I was going to bring up He's super psyched about it That means that shit's canon now

Because Liam, you watched it I caught some cliff notes about it Can you watch that whole thing online? I listened to the whole thing You can? Cool Can you watch it now? You need a GDC Volt account

I'll listen to it then I'm sure people have things There might be, I don't know if there's a way If you don't have a GDC Volt account I don't know Either way, the interesting parts were That he did not know about the name or word Metroidvania

He didn't know at all about the portmanteau Until two years ago What? It was very clearly a Western thing That he caught some kids using it on Facebook And he was like, what? What the fuck is that? Yeah, he had no idea

Because up until then he was calling them 2D Exploration Action Games Yeah, it's such a... Which is nowhere near as sweet Metroidvania sub That is awesome It sounds really cool Yeah, and then he went on to describe

How it's interesting that people are saying this And surprising because They were influenced by Zelda More than anything in terms of the exploration aspects And they thought about like When Zelda goes 2D Because of the perspective Exactly

That needs to look like Metroid More so than Zelda But in their heads going into it They were thinking of that That's really weird Because Zelda was way... But that's how Zelda works You go to place, you get X-Weapon

And then X-Weapon does stuff in other places And Metroid does that too It does, it does But at the same time But on your GD Japan knows what Metroid is Exactly, that's what I was about to go And I was about to say

It totally makes sense when you think about it Japan doesn't get influenced by Metroid They get influenced by Zelda Barely Barely That's just super weird More so than Metroid So yeah

Like if on your GD Before the game even starts It's like Zelda 2D Then you can see that And then when it forms That's a bit Metroid But if they had Zelda as the mind frame

Then yeah, Zelda's the answer This feels like I've traveled back in time To see the invention of a hamburger And the guy hands it to me And I go, oh cool And he's like, enjoy your ham sandwich Like what? No, no, it's a hamburger

Well, either way If it makes it any better for you He said that he loves the term Metroid game Yeah He's honored by it Because he likes that people have associated His game with Metroid

And he loves the fact that Those two represent the genre And he even said if Nintendo asked him To be on board for a Metroid game He totally did So what's the countdown to Like Mighty Dracula

Well, he has a team together But there was no announcement or anything So it's probably not anything Dude, that's gonna be so weird Because Dracula's totally public domain Sure I don't think he's gonna go for Dracula Yeah, we were reading way too far into it

Expecting like some kind of crazy megaton Like bomb at his GDC talk Yeah I don't think it was reading Like he quit during the same week That's not a huge coincidence But he's not gonna drop like the new project At a thing that's not publicly accessible

Maybe in six months Yeah Fucking Azure Fucking gun vault Sure Announced at Bit Summit in Japan I guess Bit Summit

Okay, you know what? How about this? It would be like Sonic Boom Where they show off the levels And don't tell you what it is Sure But I mean like It wasn't too far to reach to say

Oh, he might have a Kickstarter Because he quit And he's having a talk on Metroid Vanias During the same week Where he quit the Metroid game I would not have been surprised And I was hoping I was really hoping too

But I hope he makes I hope he fuck that He just makes judgment too God damn it I was just gonna say I just rather he takes his time And makes a good game

So, yeah, not unlike in judgment But Did he work on judgment? Yeah, he was the director Oh, fuck God damn it Just fucking Just call it Death Note Fighter

Death Note Fighter Yeah, I like the one bit Where he said that One day he wants to try taking a stab At 3D again Because it's the thing he feels Like he can never get right But he really

Is sure as hell Is right about that It's good that he knows It's like Dude, it is so good that he knows Yeah Like if I saw quotes Like, man, I want to make 3D games

I feel like I'm really Coming into my own on 3D games I'm like, oh, fuck Did you guys play Nano Breaker? It's not blood, it's cyborg juice It's cyborg juice And the other It's Bio Slime

The other big It really is Bio Slime He went into Making Symphony of the Night with his team Basically throwing the entire formula out And saying we want to start from scratch Make a whole new thing

Do we even need a whip? Do we even need a human being As your playable character? No, no, no But let's put one in as a bonus Yeah What did you guys hate? We fucking hated pits

Pits are shit Pits are pits Pits are out They got rid of pits So what happens now? You fall into a boss fight Or just a really shitty room No traditional pits at the time

A death room, if you would But no pits, you know And he just kind of talks about some of their thoughts And philosophies going into it And it's really interesting Because, damn, they threw everything out And made such a sick game from it It's like, if you are a good designer

You can do that You can reinvent a franchise Because of the time What was it? They give you a $5 million budget And you've got like 10 guys in a room And you're just like drawing And doing and making fucking

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Whatever the fuck You've got 10 months And then everyone just slaps that shit together And then, boom, you got Symphony of the Night It's just what we said before That's exactly how it happens You just say, oh, let's just scrap everything

We're just talking about Assassin's Creed Unity You just said I was hoping They would kind of scrap everything And start over with something new and fresh And said it's just another hooded assassin I mean, you can't do this type of stuff You can't go, fuck it Let's just not do whatever we did

You say that But at the same time, Ubisoft The guys who've been making the same Assassin's Creed game Remember what happened to Splinter Cell? Like, they completely changed the game Like, twice with conviction And now there's rumors that Rainbow Six Has been completely turned into three different games

No surprises there What conviction was gonna... No, the hobo Sam was gonna be something new and crazy No, no, just make the whole thing But they still scrapped it It still scrapped it And now they're back to exactly the same as before Which is new now

Oh, fuck it Now, speaking about Rainbow Six and Tom Clancy Did you guys happen to catch that little trailer For the Division's engine? The snow drop engine Looks hot Wasn't that sick? Looks good

I was really impressed We saw most of that in a trailer a few months back Not most of it They showed bits and pieces of This is what we're doing This is what it's called But this was the best open look at People directly working in it

That we've seen of all next-gen engines These kinds of like, featurettes Where a guy just goes through an engine For ten minutes Like, you remember the fucking... I don't wanna see Eight years ago for GDC Where Cliff B showed off the fucking meet-cues

Like, I love that shit That shit is porn It's crap And just show me all the tessellations So you can handle it I watched this and then I went back And I was just thinking And I'm like, what have we seen

As far as next-gen stuff goes? We've got the Fox engine We've got Disrupt, CryEngine, UE4 Frostbite And these things are all being worked on And they have some very pretty things going on But like, I want that inside look And the Snowdrop engine trailer was fantastic

I bet we're gonna see one for Frostbite The next time a big EA game comes out And the fact that UE4 is not even gonna be out Until next year available It kind of makes me think With all these other engines Like chomping at the like, oh, look at ours Look at ours, look at ours

I don't think UE is gonna have the chokehold It did last-gen I don't think I think you're totally right When I looked at this trailer And then at the end of it It says like, join massive Or something along those lines

It seems to imply licensing will be possible It seems like all I go, yes, please Whatever like Unity's been the one On the up-and-counter for a year Oh, totally, of course It's just streaking ahead For anyone who's like starting

I don't know, Unity's super viable Unity's everything Unity's been streaking ahead Did you see the fucking new prices for Unreal And what was it, CryEngine? Yeah, for CryEngine It's like they fucking cut the price Of the engines to nothing

Because they know they're working Or like, our Nintendo goes like We have 50 Unity games just sitting there Waiting to release Yeah, it's like That's a bit of a paraphrase But like Unity's 50

In the lineup If 50 games come in Line up Yeah, exactly I don't know I don't get too excited Over like 3D engine stuff Because like, you go look at Square Enix

And it's like, well, theirs is way more impressive One engine One engine Which one? The one we're using for Final Fantasy XV But I don't know anything about that engine It runs the game at like really good But show me everything about the engine

No, but like, that's what I'm saying Like, at the end of the day Like, an engine doesn't even matter Because you look at Guilty Gear And it's like, does it matter That it's on Unreal 3? No, but I want to see it I'm not interested by this

And that is why I am saying It's I I don't get particularly excited by engines Because it's just like You can make whatever and whatever engine I was like, fine Well, not whatever Whatever

To certainly make Guilty Gear in Unreal 3 Would you have said that was a good idea Five years ago? No I would Well, if we Which it's probably Probably totally fine

As long as we don't turn it on And see the textures waiting to load Oh No, you know what? When you're a fighter That shouldn't be a problem Because of the pre-fight versus thing Sure, and it's cell shaded

But the point I'm getting at Is that the only time it sort of matters I don't think it's actually cell shaded, dude It's textures Pretty sure it's not real Yeah There's a black outline on them At the very least

Yeah So, yeah It's probably textures with a black outline That's like It filters It's irrelevant What do you mean? I think that's the only place where like

As a consumer You sort of notice and feel that Is like The bugs that keep happening Over and over and over How many final kills in a big Assassin's Creed fight Are going to end with no sound effects

But what I mean is that All these next shed engines They just don't have these issues And more so We haven't touched any of them really So we don't even know So I look at them all And I'm like, I don't fucking know

Which one's going to be the best Let's wait and see Yeah, well I I don't care which one's looked Like whichever one's You're totally right That I look at that In terms of like

Oh, I want the shiny now That being said Oh, me too, definitely Like whenever the fucking CD Projekt guys Would do their fucking Witcher 2 Like engine discussions It's just like

Oh my god, this is Poor There's tons of games That just have undisclosed engines Sure Where they just make their own engine And they turn out great But all really

I'm trying to get at is This trailer's cool But I love seeing shit like this I wish more people do it And it is very cool I want to watch like a show That is like Here's an hour a week

And we just show off the engine In nitty gritty I want to know Why Unity is so killer Like I know it's good For porting everything But I want to see Unity Because this like

Download it Why This type of look Is just It's more informative And you get more out of it Of course Then you do with like

Say the Samaritan trailer Or the Elementals trailer You know That was Every time you say Samaritan It gets super hyped And then I realize It's not a game

It's not a thing though Yeah, what a weird mistake But that's what it always is Is check out these awesome particles No, but Are you checking them out? But for Unreal 3 No, but check them out though

But for Unreal 3 You had the Unreal Tournament guys And you had the Berserker From Gears of War And both of those Actually became things And they looked like they did In the footage

With Samaritan For them to come out And be like No, you're never going to see that shit Like, come on That shit look cool The most Interesting world you've ever made

Ever made Yeah, yeah, yeah No, totally But Cyberpunk's got us covered Man, all these enemies are shit When you think about the sunburn engine It's the most common XBLA

Indie game engine And we've seen it Like a zillion times And it's the worst fucking thing Mark of quality XBLA or Indie games? Indie games, sorry I meant to say Indie games

Oh, wow, okay That's even worse I would say What uses it? The most Trick or... Remember that one Where you're having that guy?

The one that's all kind of porn But not really porn Oh, I could be one Yeah, I know the one Yeah, you do It's pretty good We all do We all do

It's the Ghost and Goblins one I think so No Blizzard faithful Hold your hands up No Do it Wait, are any of us

Blizzard faithful? I used to be Me too I remember When I started my old job at THQ The guy I sat down next to He said, I have faith in three game companies

The three B's Bethesda, Bioware, and Blizzard When was this? 2012 or 11 What? That's too late That's too late I had to physically Turn my head away from him

And have a huge grin Come across my face As I pretended to look at something And say Yeah, those are pretty strong companies Without laughing my ass off That's where you just breathe Just...

Oh, it was hard That's way too late He called it Three B's And if you're listening I'm so sorry But fuck What a killer punchline

That's amazing It has to have been him troubling you No He was in there on Old Republic Day one Day zero Day negative

Every day was a day negative on Old Republic Go to the annoying guy And drop that line on him And see what happens This is going to be way off topic Did you guys see the reactions The Elder Scrolls Online Nondisclosure Agreement lifted?

Like every single place on the internet I saw It's like The NDA is lifted People can talk about the Elder Scrolls Online Every comment on every page Of every form is just like Oh, I can talk about it now

Yeah, it sucked That game sucks That game looks like garbage The most backwards ass MMO ever Ever When I first saw Oblivion for the 360 I assumed it had multiplayer And you could play with your friends

In this open world Yeah I assumed that I was baffled when it was in the case And then when they come and make a multiplayer one It's a traditional MMO Instead of being People want co-op

That's all they want Make slaughterlings In your fucking Elder Scrolls In your fucking Elder Scrolls Too far the other direction But what's Blizzard doing Right, what's Blizzard doing Anything

Diablo III's now working hard You would never guess Why someone like me Would be excited about it I know exactly Why you don't know this A Vikings is coming back Oh shit

Let's do it This is one of the first things I remember you talking to me about When we met You were like I'm so hyped for that Yeah Everyone was

I played Starcraft I got off of Rude Wars Really? Yeah, I did And one of the fucking My personal Kirby's air ride Yeah Was Starcraft Ghost, man

I couldn't wait Dude, me too And when they canned it Like five times I was really excited for that game Every time they canned it I was like Oh, but maybe

I like it It's too good But maybe Every single version of that That they showed And the fact that they said No, I'm not good enough I just went

Oh, I Oh, your standards are so high I love you But fuck You know, I can't hate you For that exactly But I was happy With what you were going to do

But now after Diablo III Their standards are way lower So it'll come out tomorrow So they straight up Xbox Live indie games only So yesterday They straight up Just came out and said

Just It's not off the table Sorry Just right before you get to that I remember like It was never Blizzard That was developing Ghost It was Blizzard

Overseeing Two different developers And they switched them And the first one Was the developer That made Marvel Nemesis Oh And then when they switched

They switched to Swinging Abe Studios Which made Metal Arms Glitch in the system And that's when I was Like unhyped And then I was like

Oh, they made Metal Arms That game's really cool Awesome And then when they canceled That I was like I said We made it ourselves

And then it's been Going ever since And did Fusion Ever work on it? Sorry? And Fusion Did they ever work on it? I don't recall that name

They made Geist And Heroes of Ruin I don't Think so Basically They did But I don't think They worked on it

Basically a producer At Blizzard Alex Mayberry Was like We still Would like to do this And it still Is like

Something that we think Is viable It's an idea that can work And internally Sometimes It could have worked Reboot's coming back Well, hey

Exactly Fucking take your wads of money And hire platinum Just do it Well Do it They're a person's shooter But so is Vanquish

Exactly And fucking These guys can sell anything Yeah Their audience is so hardcore That we're losing subscribers I could see A lot of Blizzard faithful

Saying Fuck this Japanese company Ruin Like, you know what I mean? I don't know Maybe Like Western Blizzard fans

I could see A large percentage going I don't want Japanese Companies messing up My beloved Starcraft And my beloved Because Because Blizzard's just done

A bang-up job Like Her with the voice filter Just going ghost reporting I'm like Ah, shippers man The thing is though Is that like

I look at You look at the first version Of the game Your hair was too long You look at the first version Of the game And you're like That's probably

EDF level jank Right The second version And you're like Okay, they're at least Gears 1 right now At least And then it disappears forever

And you're like Well fuck What? How good do they need it? You know? And I'm like I know you want it to be perfect But just give it

Just give it I don't care Normally It's the kind of thing Like Oh, they said It's not enough At the table

So who cares So what? But Blizzard like Cancelled Fuckin' Clash of Clans Or whatever the Adventure

That shit just got Raw cancelled Like after it was done They never mentioned it again It's not this Oh, the animated one Yeah Yeah, the animated

Warcraft Adventures Yeah, and they just Rolled that into the back Absolutely Tons of frames of animation For not burned It's burned Yeah, they don't give a fuck

Because I feel like it's like They go Hey, unless we can reinvent This shit When we drop it Why bother? No, and I agree with that Because like

I have been burned Ironically by a Off-to-a-Sci-Fi game Featuring Space Marines Which was Warhammer 40K Fire Squad Oh, that game is

I'm so excited for Fire Squad Just the Tau Yeah, you get to play as the Tau You don't get to You don't play as Space Marines You play as the Tau And I believe the Space Marines

Are antagonistic in that game And it sucks Oh It's no good So I hope Ghost comes out good Did you play Space Marine? Of course

I worked on Space Marine Oh, did you? Yeah Space Marine's awesome That's what you wanted though, right? It's really fun And it's really good And I'm really happy that it exists

Yeah Because I have played A good many Warhammer 40K games I love the variety more than anything Yeah I wish you could have played as more Characters than just the Space Marine The complete opposite problem

I got to play as Orcs one time In one of them What was the rest of that code? I want to bring that up About the Blizzard Ghost Oh, yeah Just because I thought it was

Hilarious It is fun I still think the idea is perfectly viable I don't know if we'll ever do it But I think it's something we'd like to do When we set out to do it originally On the GameCube PS2 and Xbox After we shelved it

I used to say that At the time We were very ready to make A Blizzard game on consoles But those consoles Weren't ready for a Blizzard game We just couldn't quite get What we wanted it to do

Now that Because of those machines at the time The processing wasn't Blast enough That sounds like a total Hunk of shit Until you remember how Fucking bad Diablo and

Ourcraft War 1 PS1 and 64 Those were atrocious Those games ruined This goes back to also The fact that Blizzard weren't Again, the ones that were The programmers on Ghost

They're still advising it But I get you though The statement that Consoles were not ready for us Especially when Blizzard Started as a console What the fuck is Titan? Now you will

If you know Your life is forfeit What the fuck is Titan? How it Pregnant wives are not allowed To know Their husbands will not tell them Like I have never seen

Anything in this industry Be so well known Oh yeah Secret Like for fucking They have the sickest NDAs ever We knew it was a development for Five years

And then we're like Oh it's two years off And then they announce That they're going to Completely restart development On a game they never announced Yeah What the fuck

Please get excited Oh man That We don't care We have vows That shit Upon barrels If you don't get excited

Your eventual kids will be Yeah sure And they'll give us The wheelbarrows of money Like I feel like Whatever What else man I feel like the time

We can lame you out Exactly And as you can see Like Warhammer doesn't have That luxury That's a license That needs everybody Who bit it can get

Well only because The Codex and Stardust Is not going to survive The only cause Game's workshop's a fucking Dick with the license I swear Dick's workshop is the fucking worst

The length of The length of time that Titan's been in secret development They have set up a situation In which if that thing Is any less successful than World of Warcraft They have failed

Yeah Yeah Which is why they canceled it I guess Yeah They're like What will this take over Only ten percent

Two continents I don't know It would be really awesome If all these projects Had synced up in the same year If A Attack on Titan Debuted this year

Titanfall Debuted this year And Titan Debuted this year That would be like The year of the bow It's the year of the Titan Attack on Titan

Fall Titan Titan Like suffix And it happens on the Titanic Oh yeah Oh My heart will go on man

The tower fall would review higher Oh That's great That strip That one of My favorite Panorakate strip of all time When

Tycho just Rips Gabe apart For shitting on What is it It's like Warhammer We're like World of Warhammer You shut your mouth

You shut your filthy mouth I swear to God The next words out of your mouth Will result in me killing myself I really like like The Warcraft stuff But like at the same time Like I look at that

Like this is like the saddest Like clear rip off ever Ever Like ever By far Like because the Warhammer 40k stuff Is so much more interesting He's going to open one of his six mouths

And sing the song For Starcraft onto Warhammer What is the Both Both rip off Each version Okay Because the old stuff

Is just like the old stuff And the new stuff It's because Warhammer It has bits of work Like Warcraft And space And space And space

Warcraft rips off Warhammer 4 Warhammer and Starcraft rips off 40k Also Starcraft rips off Aliens and Predators Also, yeah Like the old Marines Predators and Protoss

And they all rip off Tolkien And he rips off No one No one Who knows It came out from his brain hole Because the Dark Ages Were nowhere near that exciting

He probably killed a man for his story Man, poor Tolkien I remember reading up When he was putting out The very first, like, editions Of Lord of the Rings How him and his editor Like fucking hated each other so much

And how it was actually Like a nightmare For like 50 years To get it properly edited Lord of the Rings Because Elven Didn't exist as a word Yeah

And he would Write the whole draft And then the editor would correct Every single time To Elven And Tolkien would go No, fuck you, I'm reading a word Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

He's a professor of language I don't do it He invents words all the time Also, don't forget that Tolkien wanted the whole book Like this In one giant He forced him to split it into three

And he's like This is fucking bullshit He wanted a phone book Slash Beyond Two Souls Yeah, you know what The copy Lord of the Rings I have is one book And it's too intimate

It sucks to read It physically sucks to read Yeah, yeah No wonder you're dead, Tolkien The only gigantic book that I have like that And it's fairly tiny in comparison But I have like a Narnia All of them in one

Yeah And it's the sickest like huge book With Aslan on the front And it's punchy You mean Lion Jesus? Lion Jesus Just although you never meant to read it, I suppose I read it

Oh, you actually opened those pages And I read every one of them Okay Cover to cover Damn I keep thinking of that image of 60s Spider-Man Punching out like a closet and saying Fuck you, Narnia

Apparently, I didn't see the first one So I'm not too sure But it seems like Beanox's new amazing Spider-Man 2 Has the good swinging I've heard this This left, left trigger Shoots your left arm out

To shoot a web Right trigger does the exact thing You have to be near a building This has been confirmed for a little while But now people have seen it Now there's footage of it Time to care Yeah

Time to care I took a look My Spider-Man alarm's going off If you bitch long and hard enough Eventually they will retrofit old engines No, they didn't take the old engines But then there's a bunch of combat footage And it's totally Arkham

Yeah, it was Arkham in the last amazing Spider-Man Not that it was good But whatever, if it's Arkham That's fine And it has good swinging That's great But you know, like as I said before Arkham slash Assassin's Creed fighting

Like hero versus group Every superhero's going to be doing that type of fighting From now on Sure, it makes sense though Except for Superman It doesn't make sense Like Hulk shouldn't fight like that No, he shouldn't

Hulk should fight like Dynasty Warriors Yeah Hulk should fight I thought you were going to say dinosaurs No, like Dynasty Warriors Yeah, but dinosaurs though I swing my arm and 50 dudes go that way Yeah, that makes sense

Yeah They don't have footage of it But there's missions in that game That you apparently play as Peter Parker And have to do dumb Jonah shit Oh, I'm sure that's fun I'm sure it will be No, I'm just kidding

I'm sure it actually is Being the cat shit What? You have to do dumb Like you have to Peter Parker goes Peter, let's go on a date Let's go fishing

No, Peter Parker goes like Oh god, I really want to Get back into the costume Like he knows like Like it makes you appreciate The Spider-Man bits more Like it's not bad That they're like we try to

Make you feel both sides of Peter's body Well, we'll see how it goes A little variety, dude Variety I know that Down time Games is usually what we complain about When you're like god

I seriously doubt it could ever be As bad as Big The Cat Yeah, I think that's cool Big The Cat was an incredible Fishing simulation You need to shut your mouth You need to die You will

Go back to England, James No Have you heard of the Dreamcast? Yeah, that's okay Let's pick a game franchise you like Where they force you to play as character You don't want to be for a while Yeah, but dude, I just mean

That there might be cool photography missions That Ashley section was sick What are you talking about? Yeah That Ashley section is way more Interesting in the Japanese release I just found out That's different

That in the Japanese release of RE4 The Ashley section has all pre- Static cameras from old Rezeval angles Oh, whoa Yeah That's different And for us

We just get the standard camera But if you haven't done suplexes If you haven't done suplexes As Ashley, you missed the whole section I guess You know you can do that, right? Oh, shit Yeah

Go back to that Damn It's good again Apparently, Binoss is going to do Like a 10 minute demo Of the game to show off everything Yeah In the next couple of weeks

I really hope because I really enjoy Like when a good Spider-Man game Is good Yeah, I'm looking forward to it too I wish I wasn't so much my own ass That I couldn't enjoy

Any of the newer Spider-Man games Because it didn't have the swinging I liked No, you're not even wrong You are super allowed And justified But Matt would be playing one And he'd be like

This Spider-Man game is actually really good And I'd say But does it have the good swinging though? And he'd go And I'd go Oh, get out of my face Here's the difference If you're playing Web of Shadows

Which was an open world Spider-Man game And had shitty swinging Great combat But Shitty swinging And terrible the rest of the game Like the game If you saw this game running

You would punch the TV Because it had frame drops It had Like no v-sync Like it was just the poor thing No v-sync And frame drops Is unacceptable

It was And it Like It was just so bad But with Shadow Dimensions Shadow Dimensions Was a completely different game Where it was level based

And you had Interesting different Spider-Man to play One was stealth One was Dynasty Warriors And one was like Like fun swinging mechanics In closed environments

But if I play this for 20 minutes And like I just fucking Look at the controller Then pop it out And pop in Spider-Man 2 Or buy on a commando Then

No Or Ultimate for that matter But I'd rather have A game that's different Than rather a game that's similar To where you want But bad Sure

Yeah Okay I get you Totally Like you got the one thing right And everything else I guess my big problem Is like Man that genre

Has two games in it Yeah Like And I love that genre Of swinging mechanic Cool game Well now there's It's Biocom

The new Biocom And Spider-Man 2 Spider-Man 2 It's like the only one And it's awesome And now Energy Hook's coming in To clean up Well

No Energy Hook is by It's an independent game For Vita PS4 and PC By the guy who did The web swinging alone For Spider-Man 2 That's actually coming out

It was on Kickstarter And it succeeded Yeah It looked not great It looked terrible Visually Has it picked up It's gonna be fun

Has it picked up What do you mean has it picked up Does it look any better now Okay me and Woolly We saw like Kickstarter And we're like We're really hyped But it's so visually ugly

I can't play Dude I was holding wads Wads of cash And I was like Of cash I can't drop this cash Distractingly I can't pour out the champagne

I can't do it This doesn't look good enough Are you saying there's new stuff about it Or are you just referencing that It still looks like It's gonna be a fun game to play Have the visuals changed at all Not particularly

Like the style is still the same Oh I'll have to look that up Yeah I know But probably I know there's at least A new trailer though For when they announced the PS4

Okay well Either way Because games like Lost Planet And Freedom Wars and stuff Don't count Because it's a zip hook Yeah it's a Freedom Wars is doing it really well though

But it's not a swing Yeah it's a tether It's like a I agree But like did you see the new Freedom Wars footage Where he's all over the place It looks cool

But it's not hitting the right spot No Because it's different I have I want Freedom Wars Momentum to be the primary variable Exactly I have

There's a G-spot For swing That's Sure But I know Freedom Wars like Exactly that angle What are you talking about again

I'm saying I want to latch on to a thing in the distance Jump And like Pull myself around Create A rotation Let go

And go flying It's the same Like child like joy moment Of when you would get on to a swing And fucking like Push it And then be like Let's see how far it can get

By jumping off at the exact right Point Yeah Whereas the other ones Are like attack on Titan style Which is another type of fun Yeah I like how

Well Freedom Wars is the specific one Because it's the only one doing this Where you can tether to a point And shoot while you're on that point Yeah So like You swing around the opponent a bunch And cut him up

And then when he starts attacking You swing away While your buddy pulls his leg out from under him There's some I think the core difference Seeing the two They're just different Parabolic versus direct

Yeah One swinging That's the one I want to use Point to point Yeah Hey Matt Do you like contents? Do I like what?

Contents Contents Like a table of contents Contents under pressure Do you prefer contents When they're under pressure level? I always prefer it When they're under pressure

Would you I especially like When I have to get up In the morning to go do that Wow We all get up again Because they're working on Getting up to

Already banned in Australia Re-banned So I popped in Getting up Like a few weeks ago Just to see Wow Because I played a little bit

When I came out But I completely forgot Everything about it And I was like Wow This is a unique type of game But I kind of feel That this announcement

Of getting up to Is a lot like Shaq saying that Exactly like Shaq Yes I don't believe you I didn't know this got announced So when I said

Contents under pressure It's a total joke No, it's real Damn it Psychically This was today This was announced And when I think of total

I still feel it Like even though I know What the game is When I think of a Mark Echo game I want like A cool like cartoon rhino Doing like graffiti

You know Like cheater Like Chester Cheetah Kind of thing But it's a rhino Mark Echo No I want the rhino

Do you want to play that At some point? Yeah If you look at it And you're like Well I told you I didn't get to play the other one Because I think my disc

Was scratched or something But I couldn't get past the Tutorial And I was like The combat's really unique I forgot how weird it is I'd love to see What was going on

Because I never got to Really Yeah He just Dropped that They're working on a new one Even though There's no details

Or anything It was totally a shack situation So expect an Indiegogo Any time soon Alright sure Indiegogo Will they have Puffgatti producing

The game again? Yeah Take that Don't worry if I write rams I write checks Don't worry If I'm a talented rapper or not I write the checks

Other bits of interesting games Are The Hong Kong Massacre Sorry? The Hong Kong Massacre Oh yes I thought this looked Really awesome

What is this? Let's take Hotline Miami Yes Let's put it in John Woo world Okay And re-skin

The whole thing With awesome John Woo visuals Is it 2D or 3D? 2D It's exactly Hotline Miami View Realistic visuals

Just blowing dudes Tons of Gun smoke everywhere Have you played it yet by the way? Hotline Miami Yeah I've played a bit of it Oh you should really beat it

I can't kill her Dude just download on your PS3 Yeah I know I don't know Sure I just got this new PS Wait I bought it

Yeah I bought it I just had enough We're gonna play through it again Yeah No so this thing though Is just one guy Working on this thing himself And he says he may go to crowdfunding

But he's not sure yet Well I may not need to Like yeah cause he's like one way or another It's coming out Well like what's his face Like a cactus or whatever his handle is Made in Hotline Miami on his own So yeah you can totally do it

Yeah There's a lot of animated gifts to this game That looks like it's Well cause that's all Cause that's all he's put out Like the Just gifts Yeah the guy himself

There's no gameplay footage Like in video form He put out gifts And they're high quality gifts Gifts are better Dude Cause they loop the hype moment Cause on NeoGaff people like

I was doubtful then I saw the gifts There was a guy in a NeoGaff thread For Assassin's Creed Unity Who made a 1080p gift Of a sequence of it And everyone's like How did you fucking Wizard a 1080p gift that looks this good

And why is my internet okay with it Yeah Gifts are the best these days Like on the PlayStation blog New game announced Here's five gifts of it Yo watch like real player come back And be the sickest shit ever

Gifts are amazing Because they The person who wants you to watch it Forces you to watch the video And the part that he wants you to watch The part that he wants you to watch One of the best examples I can think of Is that really good informative

Sleeping dogs trailer Like the super long one That had all the comments Sequences in And people Gift that moment Where he kicks the guy into the phone Boom

And beats him with the phone But then you just see that gift And you see how detailed it's like Yeah I wanna be dudes with phones WrestleGun.Gift Yeah Drift that one to me These games are sold in gift format

That being said Hong Kong Massacre Horribly generic title Yeah Terrible title Awesome little like Like promo banner thing Yeah that's right

But yeah it's not Like even cutting out the Even just calling it Hong Kong Massacre Is a little bit of a step I don't know anything about it Is it rip off level Or is it

Gameplay identical Clone So Clone but it's all guns Yeah And you have The main feature of the game Is you have permanent bullet time

That you can use as much as you want And in some situations It's the only way to get out And you see him like running Through corridors Spinning around bullets Just whizzing by Right

And stuff to take out Three guys So it's got bullet hell elements Basically because if you Don't turn on the bullet time You can't not die Yeah You know

So yeah play out your Oh god John Woo game Stringle Hold Stringle Hold Play out your Stringle Hold What the fuck Shut up

Shut up John Woo Stringle Hold was so awesome Just play out Stringle Hold But talk to you It's so awesome It destroyed a company Have you played it

Yeah but it's so awesome It destroyed a company I know but it's super fun It's fine It's pretty good It's pretty good It's fine Diving on to fucking like

Carts And driving them across the room As you gun people down Rinding down a tyrannosaurus Spying So satisfying Yeah It did punch lasers

Before punch lasers Yeah it's true I remember the design For Stringle Hold It's like we're gonna make This environment With tons of bullshit All over the place

But we want it to control Like you're moving forward In an empty room Go Yeah That's probably really hard Yeah it worked really well It's surprisingly good

Is that like the first Outrageously over budget Game of last generation I think so First first first It was like 30 million dollars And it was supposed to hit it It was supposed to hit it

Launch Advent Rising was what? PS2 Xbox Was it even on PS2 in the end? Yeah I thought it only launched on Xbox in the end

Okay Okay Yeah The first like Whoa you spent too much money On this shit guys Oh your bankrupt Well that explains it

Yeah Hey guys Which money number is your favorite? Commando I forget what number it is The gallon gun guy Oh Green one

I like the electric girl Yeah I think I like all the designs Dude I think they're all really cool I don't know The way I approach Kickstarter games

Is I give them my money I sign up on the website And then I wait till they send me a So there's a trailer There's a trailer And it used the opening footage of Inifuna Inifuna is sitting down

To play the first demo And then you cut to the Direct feed As they go They walk you through mighty numbers One through nine And you get to see what they are What their gimmick is

Just the art of them Oh I tried to watch that And YouTube freaked out And wouldn't let me watch it I just want to say The quantity of people I am seeing saying Those graphics suck

Is baffling Yeah It is ridiculous Oh the graphics suck Of Beck running in an empty Test environment The placeholder checkerboard floor With black background

Looks final to you Are you joking? People don't understand I know It's like Mighty number nine Brought in tons of people That don't know what

Kickstarter is That makes me sad So I'm just going to pretend You didn't say it Because it's just like How do you think a game is made? No Do you think they just

Build everything at once? And guess what? If you don't show stuff About your game Every step of the way People are like Where the fuck's the game at If you start showing stuff

They go This isn't finished When people were like The difference is You can ignore those people Four months later I think you're totally right I think the appeal of Mega Man

Was way broader Than Than we thought And it included people Who don't even know What video games are Whereas Project Eternity They showed a little bit

So that had anyone that wanted That game knew That that's what They're always going to get And not be like What the fuck There are parts of Oh man

I could talk about That weird lighting engine all day They have a 2D mesh Isometric engine That incorporates full lighting And I don't understand How it works They're probably the same

My king of fighters 13 works Because they do The exact same thing On KOF sprites But it's like a 2D mesh And then they push A fucking son around the map

And it's Lights It's so confusing Because Because like Effectively the sprites Are being rendered In a 3D engine

And you're looking at them In a 3D engine Magic So they can be lit Magic I kind of get What you're saying But when I look at that

My brain explodes Because my brain Says sprites are droids No, it's just magic And so when you go And you see Ash creams And doing

Vendemère And like A giant green spark Is being blocked And you see the lighting Talking about face off Face off is way better Than ash

Okay, whatever Fine, fuck it You see iron trigger From K-dash It's a big flaming kick Sure And Yuri's Fireball And like

The flame color Is shining on the guy It's because That's an actual Particle lighting The sprite That's so weird It's awesome

Like 2D sprites Were dead For years and years and years And now they're coming back And they're like Mad They look like magic

Well, if you Yeah, well, fuck it How do you think vanillaware Makes its money With magic And some godlike Certainly not Some godlike

Sprite stretching tool That apparently no one else In the industry has Vectorization Except for the one That totally exists And is public And you can totally

License That super robot wars Uses every single year That's not the one But it's one That's totally compatible With like Fucking

Construct 2 All I want And it super does the exact same thing I want more Of that But it's more Hard Okay, well that's why

Art's expensive Is the issue I feel like When Blizzard said The consoles weren't ready Was another way of saying This is hard Yeah

But this is really Hard guys But like In Japan Vanillaware and SRW Have been doing that Vectorized look For a while

That's a solid thing That works for you If only they could Super robot wars games Like you saw those Those fucking Amazing It's unbelievable

What they're doing Are they still chibi? No Ah No no Okay They are But then

As soon as the cool shit Starts They stop being shit No You're thinking of the wrong one For Maso Kishi Well for OG

Which is a different Spin-off series of them The third one came out Like last year And I bought it It was extremely high quality And they made sprites from those Yeah

And they manipulate them In the same way You'd But are they still Like a chibi No Good Fucking thank god

I can finally care About super robot wars It is sick Yeah well I mean FromSoftware did a non-chibi One a while ago as well That

What? No one bothered with FromSoftware did an SRW game That was non-chibi You mean monolith soft? Ah FromSoftware has never made

They make armored core And dark souls In Kingsfield What's in Monolith? Bantresto Yeah Bantresto is really the one Okay

Monolith Yeah Possibly fucking That up But they did make one There was a non-chibi one Well shit Metal Wolf should be in

Fucking Super robot wars Be nice Dude they got Metal Wolf Oh and there They got Fucking

Virtual on They got Metal Wolf should be In fucking dark souls Metal Wolf should be In fucking dark souls He's so sick Michael Wilson comes out

He said it's dark in here He said I was so lair The plot all loops around to this Or just the metal gear Just give me a ray You know Like

I don't think metal gears Or whatever have that much Personality be Put into You know what I mean Like Metal gears always seem to be Like mass produced death machines

And that's about it And they occasionally Roar like dinosaurs Yeah I guess Metal Wolf's ridiculous Yeah It's got so many guns Another century episode

From software Super robot wars game Oh Okay There we go When was that made This was old This was

Well that explains it But Yeah it was before Liam was born 2005 Yeah that's what I said Okay so they made one Ever Sure

But the point is I was trying to remember They made one Okay congrats I'm like Liam's getting assertive And Jesus Christ dude

Like I just I'm like I know I'm not crazy Let me just double check this They made one So snip okay Much sarcasm No

Much salt right here Yeah clearly I am Since last week I've been telling everyone About that time Where Woolie's like Really sucks when you're playing

Something online And you hear on the other side You hear the baby crying And then Liam goes Oh did you call child services And Woolie's like No And you're like

Oh what a hero Fuck man Like you said no They never did anything And I was like Maybe I'm wrong And I was doubting myself I know and I told you

I'm salty now I told you that Let's shake Liam over our fries I thought I was right on that Hey Liam It's a good day man Rhythm of Fighters is coming out I know it looks cool

We don't even really know Where they're going with that I know but it's cool All you can know Is that it's going to be Better than Sky stage Sky stage SNK has trademarked

The term rhythm of fighters Which is I guess It's gonna be a fucking rhythm game That has King of Fighters dance In the background That has Athena, Keo and

Terry I can't wait for a new Dosis of racism in my rhythm game I can work with that Dude that fucking right up By who was it again Uh, Ben Polygon

Polygon Racism Racism I remember this No, it was Ben Kuchera I think it was Ben Kuchera

It was It was King of Fighters It was all of them Everything Keo F is the worst game And you should never buy it Let's talk about everything

But the gameplay Let's know But I can't wait Let's save video games Rhythm games are great So I can't It's gonna be for mobile devices I'm assuming in Japan

And we'll never get this The shit thing is like I really don't dig rhythm on touch Unless it's a resistive screen Because resistive screens Are so much more responsive Than capacitive That's like

Almost objectively true Unless you have a Really expensive capacitive screen So like a when done It totally works Because it's a very, very responsive screen But if you're telling me to play Fucking

Tap tap On my fuck Tap tap revenge On my phone Tap tap revenge Like fuck that shit It's not responsive enough Like

You're losing frames In a game that is Like that is specifically that You know If Project Diva Like every button Was a touch I wouldn't play it

Just buttons You can say phone games That never happen or whatever In my head I'm just like If I ever do make it to Japan I gotta just track down a phone With Before Crisis on it

Just go Just track it down Just track it down Every other time You're trying to start an accio bar To find that phone Yeah No one actually has that phone

It's like Will this old ass phone Run Before Crisis They'll be like What's Before Crisis It doesn't exist anymore You have to hope the phone Has it on it already

Yeah Sure The other piece of news Cause that's SNK's news Yeah In a bit of Capcom news There was a Japanese stream On Niconico

Where people are checking out With random Capcom news Or whatever They covered Ultra They covered the new announcements Yeah And they took some character poll votes

And apparently It's not a huge It doesn't represent the FGC in Japan Yeah But it represents Just a couple thousand people That are watching A generalized Capcom stream

But they voted on Character choices And how they thought And What of the new Ultra Ultra And Japan

Totally has no problem With decap rate According to this small Niconico stream Yeah They told their lecture Cause they like Kami And they like

Another Kami But also after Like a day of Thinking on decap rate Existing It's like Yeah That original point

Of hype Is so The question I have The build up And the deflection Is were all of Ono's Like troll teasing comments About the new character

Like exclusively in English Well maybe And also Japan Gets hyped Maybe we were asking All over things In a very different way You know what

That's totally possible Cause on the other hand They had builds to play Every fucking other one There's a long history Of North Americans And Europeans

Asking way more questions About Street Fighter Than Japan Yeah I'm just gonna call him Yoshinori Fucking Malinu

From now on Why He's making good games Yeah But he's Hyping them up too much And are you disappointed With Street Fighter 4?

Not in the slightest I think that Yeah I think that's a little Like that's a bit extreme Yeah Malinu says Things that are gonna be In the game

That are never in any game Like deep down Still looks like a really good game Like It just Don't get people that hype You know Cause in the end

You got yourself that hype He said There's a fifth character That's And then he said No it's a girl No Like

Do you remember me Like last week I'm totally I'm like I'm fine with the cap right I know But I'm just saying

For the purpose of Not having like These guys Going nuts about it And having like Everyone in general On the internet Just hate on it

Also Like You can deliver this news Better Remember when I went to I say this Things And he would not

Check with the US branch If it was okay To say these things And they'd be like Fucking dude Did it again Like I almost kind of feel like

He should Maybe he shouldn't have Ever said anything About a fifth character Cause he can't help himself But it's like Dark Stocks news Aw

You know Like When you really get down to it Like And I mean Jim Sterling Who I used to hate Has been really on the

On the ball With a lot of topics these days Because people Hyping themselves up too much Right For Street Fighter 4 With the fifth character It was really like

He said There's another character And you know He said Oh it'll be a girl Oh it'll be a girl But everyone was like Aw

But the fact that You tell people There's a fifth character And you're not telling them Who it is Inherently Is a thing To generate hype

Well I mean Maybe not In Japan Maybe not Oh Maybe that's That you

Wait till you guys see How we're going to announce her Yeah But I'm assuming And he meant by that funny Little animation Yeah Which was cute

Yeah And also trolling I think it's definitely a combination Of like Yeah Early announcement And people getting like Way too hyped

Yeah Totally the combination of those two I don't know Those two weren't there It wouldn't have been a problem Both combined Shitstorm It was pretty well known

That Ultra And pretty much all Subsequent Street Fighter 4 Exactly what I was going to say And the thing is that You and I And we know this

Right So we know generally Like you're not going to get A brand new set of assets Like crazy Because they don't have the money For that Right

But a lot of people out there Don't know that And they're the ones who Probably got hurt the most Because they're thinking Like anything brand new And crazy out there My expectations

But a clone Super low And I was still disappointed And Ducapri Still took many hours of work For the artist who did it You know Like it's not cheap

To make anything like that But it's It looks really cheap But But again You can objectively say though That like If they didn't

Push it that way The reception wouldn't Have been as negative We already covered this topic Last time We did But it's a big combination Of bullshit

You know Matt Tell the people about the raid Tell them What's about the raid guy What is the raid Well first of all The raid to Burandal

A fucking 96% positive rating On rotten tomatoes Oh shit Really Fucking straight And it's two hours And 30 minutes this time

Yes And We can't see it this Friday Like we're all planning to Oh that sucks I made an event called The Raid 2 The Raidening on Facebook

And We're all crushed to know Like today That it's been delayed Further two weeks For no reason And I'm kind of Fucking soft

Movie studios Thanks Movie studios Plus I guess Maybe Quebec maybe I don't know who's to blame But I'm fucking pissed

But it looks fucking sick Blame someone More importantly The fucking raid 2 is coming out Go see that shit And if you didn't see the raid 1 It's fucking 150 minutes long Go see that shit

It's the best new action Fucking series out there Also don't forget That the raid 1 remake Is coming out What They're making an American remake Which I believe

I can't I'm not going to say who stars in it But they're throwing around Some English actor That's kind of well known And I was like oh really That can't do sick ass martial arts Why would you remake this

They're, it's fine They're probably going to be like We'll get you a new young Wu Ping And he'll teach them how to do it I understand remaking something That's like Let the right one in And then he made it into let me in

And it's an easy thing to remake Don't say it, boy How do you Well they're going to remake it Because it's going to have Like it's going to have A strong word of mouth I guess so

But they already Americanized They called it the raid redemption They had Lincoln Park do the music for it They did as much as they could It was a huge success Can you imagine Can you imagine if they announced That we're making

We're doing an American remake Of Ong Back Like what the fuck do you Do you know what I mean Of course And I feel like it's that It's like you hired the guy To do the cool action shit

What are you doing remaking it Without cool action guy No definitely And they're really I feel like that's always like Banking on word of mouth Where it's like Hey we're talking about it

Now half a million podcast listeners Are going to hear it Speaking of remakes You're ballparking pretty fucking high there buddy Speaking of remakes Sam Raimi announced We are that great We're just not that popular

Sam Raimi announced That he's going to remake The grunge No he's not Yeah No Again Okay

We're all bored of Sam Raimi His company Ghost House Is the one that released All the American grudges They're called Ghost House They're a horror branch Like his little studio that he owns Like decided hey

Let's make the grudge For American audiences Let's hire the original Japanese director To direct Buffy To do this shit And now he's like Oh my god We've made no horror movies

In the last little while Let's remake the grudge Like that I already remade Get the wheels rolling again That's so retarded Sam Raimi stopped He's going to take the original reel And he'll flip it vertically

So that nobody notices That it's not a remake It's a three make now Yeah What do you like I feel like this stuff has been done before For Japanese horror movies too Can they get remakes again?

There's probably three makes out there For sure Franchises that just me juice Put it to them every 13 years Movie juice Ugh Film juice Let's take a word from our sponsors

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It should be cool Bye Thanks a lot AMC Thank you Thank you Oh my God Wow We took a long time to get here

We did Where are we I believe we're at a place That's a time A place before time Where letters exist Oh There's letters here

There's letters here Here be letters Guys Woolly Where would you send letters For letter time You can probably send them To superbestfriendcastatgmail.com Wait what

What Your letters It's crazy Emails go through time And end up in our time Our letter time In the future Yes

To superbestfriendcastatgmail.com I don't even have words To describe my enthusiasm Towards time travel You are pissing yourself with excitement Oh don't tell that on the public Who does have words For us

Words are going to come This is so awkward But let's write it out Because that's what we do Write out all Yeah write out all awkwardness Okay write out Most stilted time travel future dialogue

I went in Wants to know How time travel works I don't know Best friends If you could choose One sea list Or lower level superhero

From DC or Marvel To get rock steady To make a game for them Which would it be Plastic man Jubilee Go You just played that

It's called infamous It's true I got one but go You say yours first Squirrel girl Squirrel girl is pretty good Yeah it's true Squirrel girl is adventurous

Rage Fuck off Is that you live guy with a ski mask No be that You honor him too much By calling him a sea lister Think how creepy a plastic man is Oh god

It would look like every other game Like he's turning into women's coats and shit Plastic man's not a sea lister though Oh he's not He's not he's not He's like an F lister Plastic man and the question What sea lister are for low

Yeah yeah yeah So I'm going to still No Squirrel girl fucking up the Marvel Universe Would be amazing The spot You remember the spot he would throw Little portals

Wasn't he just Spider-Man It's like doing him Yeah the fall of Spider-Man I remember that one Yeah Awesome Spider-Man's like oh it was bullshit Or um

This is hard Um maggot That character from X-Men And the new X-Men kids Well they're not new anymore M Where it knows maggot Where like

This kid is his only power Is that he has no stomach And he has two indestructible Um like maggots Shut up That just eats Oh my god Anything and all things

And that's how he gets fed That's so stupid And they're completely indestructible I'd love to have one where you play as Nell And your whole thing is just being a dick And stopping superpowers from working The right place at the right time No I want to

I want to A character action game Where you play as that one mutant kid Who the entire comic Is about Wolverine Having to find him And murder him Because his fun

His power Is that he causes everyone Within like Three or four kilometers of him To spontaneously combust Oh my god Okay That's weird

That's a good power Not bad That's handy Uh Milo Uh Milosh Milosh Hey there Milosh

Uh wants to know Uh I'm not going to wear the puffy shirt Sure you will ginger buns I wonder If there was ever a game that you played And loved in your childhood Uh

Except for Pat Who didn't have one Oh fuck you But then discovered that you hated it Later on in life For whatever reason I knew that this was going to be fun Games you used to enjoy

But no longer do I need a A little bit A little thank you For me I was I was goddamn obsessed With bubble bubble

I would run I'd run to the store down the street And buy Freezies for everybody And come back And they'd allow me to play bubble bubble And I went back And I played it again

And I was like This is alright But goddamn This is nothing special Compared to what it used to be in my head I remember My puzzle bubble is way better I remember

And recently I picked it up And I played it again And I was like This isn't as good as I remember Uh Cobra Triangle Oh Cobra Triangle

Yeah it's a cool game Is it not No It's still cool Cobra Triangle Terminator 2 On NES Uh

Trojan On NES Terminator 2 On NES Sorry not Terminator 2 The first one then Yeah No they're all terrible

Like then and now Okay well But I liked it as a kid So I was a kid That's what I'm saying Like I guess it was Terminator 2 What Uh

Trojan For the NES by Kat Kat Trojan That one was cool when I was a kid But it Yeah it went downhill I got mine And it's gonna hurt woolly

I'll hurt him Fucking Jet Force Gemini Is on woolly That's a good one I thought that's a good one I probably right I played it Like a year ago

It was like I'm like None of this works It's a third person shooter I know It doesn't work But it's the cool rare game No

What do you call it 64 He thought it was cool It's not cool No Shut up Sorry I think my turnaround time on this Is probably the shortest

Cause yours were all like Childhood to adults But mine was like Early childhood to later childhood Where I immediately noticed that I had been crazy When I was really little And I first got a NES

I remember really enjoying Urban Champion You told me this I remember playing it with my brother I was like This game is awesome And then when I was like Seven I went back and played

It's like What the hell this is terrible It's the worst I played that game a bunch once And like It was fun for a bit It's fun for a bit It dries up

You know what Two games didn't dry up though Burger time And elevator action Elevator action Did you play the new elevator action Tetris It's terrible

Joust Weird I didn't play Joust Joust is awesome That shit's forever I'm not even a big fan of Joust Balloon fight Take your pick

Whatever I'm not that big of a fan of balloon fight Actually One of the ones I played When I was younger Was Jules of the Oracle And that game Got really shit

When I was a teenager And now I'm like No that's fucking awesome That's it That's it Again The same thing for Spectre VR Was like

When I was like 13 I was fed up with Spectre VR And then I was like No it's cool again now It's a PC game You wouldn't None of you guys play on PC What

None of you mattered What I was playing Realms of Arcania You shit And I was playing Spectre VR I have another one A trespasser I fucking played that

And I was like Oh my god You played trespasser Yeah Back in the day And I was like Oh my god Trespasser is the worst garbage

You have her You have full hand controls You can do all this shit You pick up the phone You don't want an arm Motherfucker And all this stuff And I was like

I couldn't believe the amount Of detail They put into like Control It looks like shit And then I realized How awful that was And you were a floating torso

With an arm And you couldn't do anything Your health were your tits It was the worst You would have done it Your tits And then I watched My research indicates

Research indicates And I was like Oh my god This is amazing I loved it again I know none of us played it When we were little But we all thought it was cool

Um Fucking dragon force Oh He told me this shit I got so mad I bought dragon force for the Saturn last year I did play this when I was a kid Oh you did?

Yeah It was awesome Liam told me he had dragon force One day And I said I'm coming over Let's check it out Like The tasteful streamlining

Of JRPGs There's a lot of tasteful streamlining In JRPGs Yeah Is completely thrown out the window For the archaic gameplay That is dragon force Because in the trailers

It has a 50 page manual For a reason In the trailers So archaic The reason why everyone gets hype Is because you see That 100 man battles Yeah

And you go nuts Like sprites everywhere I would see in the back of magazines And it still looks great But we just got lost In the menu It's so archaic For what 40 minutes

Dude In the back of the manual There's a page for translation notes And changes to the American version Which is awesome Thank you working designs Rest your soul And it says

That they streamline Some of the menus For the American version And I'm like shit Like the Japanese one I'd hate to have played the Japanese one Fuck that shit I would have hated playing

The Japanese Bravely default For example Oh yeah totally That would have been Significantly worse She's popping battlefight revenge The bang That'll end it

Kenani asks Who? Kenani Kenani Uh asks That's the name How do you pronounce Kenani? Love you guys

I've been watching since I was 12 And I'm now 19 What? No you haven't That doesn't The math doesn't add up there But you've been on it That must have been literally

Since the very first Maybe You ever Is that possible? No she got into a rocket And then flew around So that she aged faster No is that possible?

That's 7 Maybe I First put some in 2007 It's possible Wow You're the diehardest fan Budman It's not Budman

It's Kenani Oh But she asks That's a bit weird What do you think Well she's just top 5 But let's just go for it You appreciate your patronage

Kino Right What is the laziest Monster design The laziest monster design The laziest monster design Anything Anything that's just

Ripped straight out of Greek myth with no alteration Yeah anything that's just Tolkien Like oh we made an orc Yeah I know Like a cool warhammer orc

Unless you start The ultimate boss of Devil May Cry Oh my god Giant fire guy made out of rocks Yeah that's really bad too Mine's similar It's giant guy made out of trash We fought it in Lords of Shadow 2

Remember it was just A bunch of stones and garbage Like it's just so lazy Fish enemy Yeah I guess If you're gaming with water And your water enemy is A character that's the same size

Of you and that just walks forward It's just so lazy Zombie Zombie's pretty bad I was about to say I was about to say zombie You're already 6th They're green but

But also not just zombie But like it's Yaiba right Yeah The fucking What's the thing that looks Like a beholder But it's in Final Fantasy Okay sir

No in Final Fantasy It's the big mouth Yeah You fought that all the time In Crystal Chronicles Yeah I didn't like it I like the Marlboro I'm like it's like a beholder

But it's not But it's a mouth It's a mouth It's not poison Not about eyeballs I think the beholder's like A fucking awful design It's a fucking eyeball with eyeballs

But I think it's proper creepy But I guess But it looks really lazy On certain like printed copies Of Dungeons & Dragons shit Like sometimes it's printed in a certain way Now that fucking bad guy From the first episode

Of Mighty Morphin Power Rangers The eyeball man That is the laziest enemy Well the one that really gets me nowadays And I don't really think about it anymore Is an enemy guy from Middle East to Sten Because I feel like nobody I feel like nobody ever draws art for them

The model just makes it awesome Also that guy's cousin Nondescript Russian paramilitary Yeah I'm fed up with those Nicky wants to know What is a character that you hate So much that you also enjoy?

Titus Titus I'm not correcting him I'm agreeing Titus is hilarious That's phrased You guys interpreted that differently from me Because like

So you interpreted it as So bad it's good But I'm going for like No I'm not going so bad it's good I'm shaking my fist at him so hard That I can't hate him For me it's Harry McDowell from Gundrave

The bad guy in Gundrave He's your fucking He's your bro man And you fucking hate him Ocelot's another good one That's a good one too Well I'm not saying that Fuck you Ocelot

I love you I'm not saying Titus is so bad it's good But if he wasn't there The game wouldn't even The game would be missing something If we could add non-games Like my current like favorite I hate this character so much

But I'm so glad they exist It's a newie from Kill the kill Yeah yeah yeah Like I had a talk But I don't like her I had a talk with Molly Where he was getting so visibly mad

That the character is alive And I was like Man now I like this character so much Why is she not a stain of blood On the bottom of a fucking shoe somewhere Well we got one week to go Oh god Zero the third from Virtue's last reward

I hate him so the rabbit Yeah that's great I hate him so much but he's great Don't elaborate No he's the rabbit He's tons of personality Tons of really great dialogue You cannot believe how good it is

Oh horrible puns constantly The best puns Tyler asks a question That has to do with something You just said They're super best friends I have a request Please spoil something

Like you guys have a lot of cool conversations On the channel But it seems like you guys stop For spoilers right before things would get interesting So to you Tyler I'll say Once we finish Kill the kill We will stop and have a spoiler cast We will have a kill the kill cast

We'll have a moment where we stop And we go into pure spoilers Do you want us to spoil something now each? No don't do that No I think the main problem is that like Usually the stuff that we talk about That would be applicable Is usually came out like

Too recently Like shows that are ongoing Or still going Games that people Well games We're talking about games that in a month Of their release time What people that are going to get it

Are still going to get it like tomorrow But we also rubber banded a little bit Extra hard when we're all not there Yeah There was some video or something that I put out And I saw a fan made a comment saying I never finished Girl and Log And thanks for the spoil

I'm like it's like Like 2007 Yeah Statute of limitations But um It's tough cause a lot of people ask us Not to spoil stuff Yeah it's more people ask not to spoil

It's not that we don't want to I'm a guy that hates them so I told him Doing it for non-spoiler purposes I think this is an interesting question I want to hear your thoughts on it What should be for all media But for games particularly The absolute limit

Statute of limitations on spoilers In time Full blown spoilers Should it be a month, two months, a year Like what A year A year A year

I'd say two years What game takes you more than a year to beat Cause I would say like two months Yeah you know sure Like if you But if a guy works Has a family And works 40 hours, 50 hours a week

And only gets to play Maybe an hour a night If he's lucky He's not going to finish Persona 4 in two months Then I would say three months Like that's why I say a year Cause sometimes you have to stretch Yeah

Three months all the cons would be like Fuck you I could see that I'm just saying Also if you just started getting around To Revengeance now Like We're still playing

Then I remarked You didn't care enough about revenge To bother We're all still I think you just finished a game That came out last year AC4 Yes

Yeah Maybe this has something to do with As I've over the past like two years I've cared less and less About being spoiled Yeah For most things Yeah

I still care Although I swear to God If you motherfuckers tell me anything About Ground Zero I'm going to stab you Hey Did you know that Chico's cool? I heard that Chico's cool

Big Boss pulls off his face And it actually And it's David Hader Big Boss loses his other eye He's just got two double eye patches Double eye patches Not a blindfold Two eye patches

Two patches You would look super cool With a blindfold though Like fucking blind Kenshi Uh... Kuan wants to know Yo, is Matt still watching Ebo? Because the current arc

Is super fucking good Yeah, I just had a guy say Oh my God I just saw the latest fight Holy shit The fucking hype It was counter After counter

After counter No, I'm not super up to date I'm like three episodes away But yeah I'm going to try to catch up to that Really excited to see that fight Jacob asks Guys, what's your favorite

Like old timey story or fable? Fairy tale What's your favorite fairy tale? Fairy tale That's a tricksy one What's your favorite fairy tale? That's tough as shit Can we include like crazy shit

Like the Golden Fleece? Yeah, it's good Golden Fleece Fucking sick Yeah, no Super legit Totally Jason getting on that boat

Yeah Hercules is just a guy Hercules just tags along He's not the main character I'm a fan of Romulus and Remus The founding of Rome To their twin brothers That were just fucking

Instant awesome badass babies That got abandoned And then like a wolf was like No, you're too sick I gotta raise you And then they were born warriors That basically just commanded all men That they came across

And then they got into a fight About where to do a thing And then they killed each other And well, Romulus killed Remus And then he made Rome Romulus Nailed it History

That didn't really Quote-unquote history What are you talking about? It's super real That sounds enhanced It's canon, fucker It's canon We talked about this a little while ago

But the way that the god of everything Above dipped his katana into the sword Yeah When he pulled it out The drops made the islands of Japan Oh, oh, Japan He's an eggy He's an eggy

You should play Persona 4 The Archie I have stuff to do I have a life The eight wine cups To get the dragon drunk Yeah, yeah, yeah Stuff like that

Man, I don't know I really don't know I've always been fascinated By like the minotaur And his labyrinth Cause I think labyrinth That's Jason in the arc Cause no one's been exactly

Like that's just a part of what past said Golden fleece is super long It fits right into that That's a completely different hero That does that No, that's Jason, man No, it's not It's not

It's the easiest I believe The origins of the minotaur My shit will get mixed up together The origins of the minotaur Was like King's wife goes in Like fucks a bull No, but the labyrinth

Is what fastly Yeah, the labyrinth is cool The labyrinth is cool Leigh knows everything About fucking And if we want to go super classic We'll make stuff I remember to not ask

If we're going to go super classic I really like Jack With the beanstalk Because Jack's fucking idiot Yeah, a lot of fairy tales If you don't know There's no fables You're training the ghosts

Go mags Where's the magic beads In Wolf Among Us In Wolf Among Us There's a character named Jack But he's every Jack Yeah Jack and the beanstalk

Jack and the giant killer But that applies That applies to fables though Because every Jack That has ever been in a story Is that Jack That's all Every wolf has been bigby

Okay It's sick There's more than one Snow White Historically Okay And like They're all the same ones So they just kind of wrap it all

In together And it's pretty cool So Jack just ends up being this Hey Yeah, yeah He jumped over the candle He wants some beans He jumped over the candlestick

He hangs out with Jill He got the beans He did it all He killed the giant I really like, I guess All the ones that are featured In Fate Stay Night But only because of Fate Stay Night

Like It retroactively makes me enjoy them It's not a game You better actively constantly Make fun of Fate Stay Night No, the anime Steven

Steven The game's great Steven asks Liam Do you have some kind of grudge Against Fate Stay Night? I hear you talk about it And complain about it

Constantly Nail on the head I can't wait The shit I think the game's great I think the anime Got it aged Was that picked out before?

Super picked out Oh man I think The emails are coming in As you record I think the anime Was like It was alright when it came out

But it wasn't as good As the game in the first place And Since Fate Zero came out It has retroactively made Fate Stay Night so bad Because Fate Stay Night is so Jokey

And whatever And Fate Zero is so deathly serious And much better Animated and such So I can't wait For the Fate Stay Night remake Which is coming Because it's made by

The same guys who get zero Stop remaking everything else But in this case It's like a remake Super warranted But I like it Just The anime has aged

Really badly To the point where I tried to watch it last year And I was like I'm really pushing myself To get through this I played that fucking Capcom Fighter

And I thought it was going to be a Capcom Fighter And it turned out to not be Was that the game? It was the end of Capcom Fighters coming out Or am I thinking of a Sengoku Basara fighting game?

No you're thinking of Sengoku Basara X Yeah you are It was an anime game It was a 3D anime dumb thing It was cool But like it wasn't That feels like another video series

Also I don't like Fate Extra Actually if we're going to go there Because it's fucking wrong We're not going there We didn't go there We didn't go there Last question Sean wants to know

Hey Sean Hey Budman Sean here We are Budman now We are Budman now It's been flipped around In our Budmans Yeah

Budman if you're listening to this This got out of control But thanks I love it So I'm going to modify his This thing a little bit here though Matt explain why Final Fight Is better than Streets of Rage

Liam do the same and opposite Do so I'm going to tell you guys To do so in one sentence In one sentence Why is Final Fight Better than Streets So the first games

The first games right Before we answer this Like we joke about it But I don't think Like we're actually trying to We prefer games But I don't really think It's better

What a dehyper What a dehyper But now I will explain For reference though The first game of each We're talking about Now I'll explain why It's better though

Do you want to do franchise Or do you want to do Yeah Franchise or franchise Or single or first I don't mind Do you feel like You've got a better point

Franchise I guess then It's one sentence So I don't give a fuck Okay because When someone says one sentence To me I'm like I'm unaware If I'm saying it in one sentence

Or not Find your best point And do it Okay I feel Final Fight Is better because It's a very interesting world With many more interesting characters

That can do other things And star in other games Or as I feel Streets of Rage Has a good gameplay system But blah Everything else aside From music

Done Next And what I want to say Is that fucking Grappling system is amazing And the music Got people jobs And music

Is still amazing to this day That's it Okay Grappling music Is the only soundtrack To usher in complaints from my neighbors Pat and Woolly get to decide Who was right

What the hell That's not fair They're both right Yeah Cause we presented But you have to make a dumb choice Well I think you agree with

Although not I'm going to judge your statements And not the actual games And say that Final Fight For me has both memorable music And grappling So That didn't reach for me

I would say That the Streets of Rage Soundtrack beats both games And even not just the soundtrack Just goes Go straight Yeah Just goes straight alone

But the whole soundtrack's amazing Yeah Well that didn't do anything But that went better than expected Accomplished nothing But the club's down boys Boys what's happening on the channel We don't have time for the Zybats to watch

No I guess we don't What's happening on the channel is like Unless you can blurt it out really quickly We're getting close to the end of Yakuza It feels like it And I think after that Me and Pat might take a vote On what we're going to play

We're thinking about it We'll give you guys like a A smoother score When we're getting close Cause you know we have to have like A week to decide Yeah Other than that

Nuzlocke's still going on Don't forget You guys can't lose Me and Pat Don't forget to like Make the poll So that like You pick some choices that you have

And you don't end up with that You can't write in You don't have that ridiculous list You got last time Yeah Drink in the 99 Dragons Full let's play Let's go

Yo we got that game for a reason Um This vote if we do it We'll have no write in component Pat and I for sure will record Left behind this week And it will be Tomorrow

Today Tomorrow It's tomorrow It's almost like Left behind keeps getting left behind I know It's cause every time we go to record it Matt's like

But we don't have any Yakuza Shouldn't we do that And I go Yeah you're probably right And then I'm like But we did that like twice now And then one other time You were like

I bought it Oh wait the game lied to you Oh we were going to do it And it was like On the main menu And I hit the button And it's like downloading 8 gigs

Like f**king Progressive download That's about it That's about it That's about it That's about it We got to teach these guys About the TimTam slam

The TimTam Oh my god this is so dumb We got those TimTam chocolates We got these TimTam cookies And they were shared with us And they're delicious You destroyed two packages on your own You did two

I destroyed one Yeah And then And then You basically You take these chocolate things It's like a little chocolate wafer thing They're pretty good on their own

And our Aussie friend Was like No you're not doing it properly No you gotta learn But with an accent and sh** Yeah and she's like Okay what you gotta do is You gotta bite the end

Diagonally From each other The f**k angles I know right But you gotta You need to You gotta do it And then you stick it in a cup of coffee

Right What? A cup of coffee And then you suck The coffee in Through the wafer As if it were a straw Jesus who would figure this out

And then the moment The moment The moment The moment The moment You taste the coffee You eat the whole wafer And it

It f**king Melts It's so sick Delicious You still haven't eaten Sam's left Yes Well you'll have to ask The nerd girls to share

Who? The nerd girls The dark girls They're nerds sometimes though No Anyway So we don't have to stare They die eating those

One of them will One of them will The other one will survive God damn it Hopefully Yes I've screened already God damn it

So don't girl Don't girl 2 will die But don't girl 1 will be 5 How did you screen this? Did you go to their door? Leave the Tim Tams? Ring the bell And run away

Then kind of look around You see I just have a little I just have a little label on it It says this will kill one of you And one of them just Heels over And you're like

I got it You want to play a Tim Tams game? Tim Tams Slam your allergies I guess that's about it for us See you again next week Every morning Tomorrow

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