Castle Super Beast - SBFC 049: Living in the Database

Episode Date: July 15, 2014

Special Episode! We're doing the EVOcast, the Liam Anime Wrap-up, and the Game of Thrones Spoilercast(at the end of the episode) today!

So this weekend in a nutshell, desolation devastation. Did you guys not catch fucking Evo? Of course. I didn't catch what you're talking about. Actually, I did not catch any of Evo. I was thinking about why do we say Evo when the word is evolution, but when it's shortened it becomes Evo. It becomes Evo.

It's like GIF. It's like GIF. I only caught Smash and Killer Inc's things. Yeah, no. Grab that MGS trailer music and just that is the weekend because Giants were slain as S.Kill likes to say. I was hearing upsets from all the money. Fucking Luffy on stage putting ashes on his face.

Desolation. I kept hearing the top guys kept getting eliminated super early. Yeah. Okay. So for a while now, if you're Japanese and you play Fei Long, you are a god. There is no touching you. And then fucking Luffy comes along with his rose and just murders everybody. Yeah.

And what did he murder those people with? It was like one close, like really close match. Yeah, no dude. But otherwise he was always kind of healthy. Yeah. I mean like Gact was like trying to make his way to the door. He was making a break for it and his rose just grabbed him with the scarf like no and brought him back in.

There was this one bit where like it panned back to them and Gact just looked at his friends and then he looked back at the screen and he was just like, oof, oof, oof, oof, oof. What did you do here? You can see it all on his face. Like how do we fight Rose? Here is where it's like someone just like Gamer B just showing up out of nowhere with Adon. Yeah.

Like I know Rose has always been like, you know, not terrible, but like. She's always been good. Yeah. Someone with Rose used to be everyone. It's not the unknown factor because the game is fully discovered at this point, but it's just like the one guy. It's that certain player and that certain character. Well like the game with Shin.

Exactly. Yeah. You become a guru at your character and it's just, it's fucking, it's so beautiful. Right? You go up and you see the top eight has not only a Rose in it, but you get Snake Eyes. This guy that played Zangief. I was so happy he made it that far. Like I had a big talk with Plague about like, you know, the problems with fighting games

where you just can't get the moves out. Yeah. Because he sucks shit at motions. Because you just, you can't get motions and you're like, ugh. He's been pitching at it for like two weeks. Tending the farm. Tending the farm does not give you the wrist movements that are applicable to a stick. So I explained to Plague, I'm like, dude, you're not wrong and that an accessible game

where the movements are easier or like you have like a simple input like Smash Brothers is a much better way to go about things because you get people into the meat and potatoes of the game much faster. Line games faster. You don't have to worry about just, oh fuck, I can't do the thing I want. Yeah. You know? That's why Evil Zone is so good.

But then I'm explaining this to him, I'm like, but then you look at a guy like Snake guys, you go watch his matches, he plays Zangief, he fights characters that he should do horrible against. Oh yeah. And he does 1.5 if not zero special moves per round. Yeah. He does like no SPDs. And you were telling me about that Teahawk player that just does Condor Spire all day.

Oh my god. That's the only move. Yeah. Koji Kog, this guy plays Teahawk and all he does is Condor Spire. Yes, one button on his controller. And he doesn't give a fuck. And he has half a dive kick pad. And then when they cut back to him in like a live on the chair, he's just smiling and

yucking it up like he's loving it. He's jumping up and down in his chair doing Condor Spire. I bet they are going to fall for the next Condor Spire. And they do. And they do. It's insanity. He's trolling everybody and winning. It's nuts.

If you... Like yeah. No, what a great evil man. He wasn't a match that Snake guys lost. Like a PS1 pad? He played with a PS1 pad. Pad Warrior won the tournament. And it's not even a good pad, it's the PS1.

It's the old grade there. It's what PS1 used to be. It was used to be. Yeah. You were saying watch that Filipino champ match in Marvel where he was just pushing back Hagar. Oh my god. Repulsion.

Repulsion. Repulsion. He was just pushing Hagar back. Because Hagar can't get in on Magneto if he just repulses him the entire time. And then after 15 seconds, he grabs Hagar and goes to the other side of the screen instead of killing him with a combo and keeps repulsing him for the rest. And Yates is just like this is gross. This is disgusting.

I loved it. Like so gross. Like you're saying like those Giants are slain like in like since kind of since the other one I watched like you know a lot of it. Like who do you... What is the character that won? Do you know the character that won? Okay.

It was Glacius. No. Okay. No. No. So you had an amazing top eight because everyone... Yeah. Justin Wong you had...

He has the one I'm blurring on because I was cooking. I don't have any. No, no, no. But like... You had Rico Suave. Rico Suave and CD Junior were the final two players. Yeah, CD Junior were the final two players. Exactly.

So it was Sidira that won. Wow. And this thing is like CD Junior plays an amazing Sidira. Rico Suave plays an amazing thunder. Oh god. I can't... But everyone got hyped when he flirted and tried to take other characters. Full Gore specifically.

Yeah. Yeah. Full Gore. One of the things is that Full Gore is still not great. So that's why in the season two panel I told you how like Keats and whatever, like we're going to try to make Full Gore a little bit more accessible. As successful. Yeah.

Because some people are having a hard time with him. He's tough. But at the top level, I mean there's other shit going on there. Of course. What's amazing though is like I said, everyone but Spinal represented in that top eight. All characters of the cast. Yeah. That's true.

And special shout-outs to T-Swag. Yeah. T-Swag. He got fifth place with Sidera and he like messaged us like, I guys, I just got into top sixteen on Twitter. And we're like, we're watching. And we saw. And then he got into top eight and then he fucking, he actually made it up there, you

know. And like just this dude rocking. Yeah. Yeah. He had tough matches though. Yeah. He was against guys. Everyone did.

With the player's name it's Gutter something who had another thunder that was amazing. Yeah. Yeah. His match against Justin Wong. Gutter Magic. Super Gutter Magic. Yeah. Isn't he like a Call of Duty player?

And this is his first fighting game that he played. I don't know his background. I don't know his background. But I was really impressed. I remember Max saying that he played a little bit of Street Fighter 4 but other than that this is like his first fighting game. I'm sorry. His thunder was amazing.

Exactly. And it's interesting because like I, my idea of the Thunder Sidera matchup was always Thunder takes it because she spent so much time in the air and my DP will stop you. But it turns out that actually it's much closer when you know what the fuck you're doing. Like those loops. The Sidera loop? Yeah. And it's interesting she can, she can cancel that special.

Exactly. Like jumping. Jump jump. That's the first time I ever saw that. I didn't know Sidera could do that at all. Jump cancels, yeah. No, it's just like what? This is broken.

Guaranteed. Guaranteed half your life or more on the second round. It's still hard to do. It's nuts. It was a great EVO. Blaze Blue was amazing. Blaze Blue's finals were nuts. KOF and Blaze Blue switched hype spots this year.

I was going to say because what was it maybe two EVOs ago where KOF was the hype issue. Oh yeah. That wasn't the case this time. No, it was not. But Blaze Blue, you should just watch the finals. It's funny because... I'd rather play Blaze Blue than watch Blaze Blue. Like she was in it.

So like I, well here's the thing. I always said like, and I picked, I picked characters just based on aesthetics. Sure, sure. And then whatever happens happens. Roll the dice, right? Yeah. Uh, Azrael looked like a badass and I thought to myself fuck if I played the game that's the kind of guy I'd want to use.

Turns out he's actually that good. He's actually that good. And he looks really stylish doing it. Like that was a really impressive like final set. It was just back and forth, back and forth down to the final round. Final resetting. Final everything. Final everything.

Low health situation. Amazing. Yeah. They clutched it out right to the end. It was really great. What was the, what was the big killer instinct in Azrael? Maya. Maya's now confirmed to be at season two character.

Oh, okay. And she's got a really cool. The craziest. Most set. Plans. Like nothing, is there anything like I described it to you but I was like I've never heard of it. I didn't hear about the roots at all.

Well, the closest thing is Cody. But like you, but you, with Cody's. Cody, but it centers around the knife. You mainly actually go for the knife instead of just ignoring it. Good. Because I hate how Cody's knife is just like ignore it. When she throws the knives everywhere and when they, if a parator blocks it, it bounces off and you can recapture the knives in the air.

Exactly. So take the most, one of the most uninteresting fighting game characters of all time in Maya and Keith's is going. Yeah. Let's make her interesting. Yeah. And what should we call it too? They actually, what did they say about her?

They said, no, they showed off a part of her stage. Yeah. They showed off her stage and that's what they talked about. They're like, okay, everyone wants us to put in the fatalities. Mortal Kombat does that better than anyone. We don't really want to go that route. But what we're going to announce and not show and I've already is stage altars. Yeah.

Okay. And I'm like, why? Yeah. Okay. So if you currently do infinite altars in a row, they're going to change that. Yeah. But you can cancel out of his ultra and back into an ultra forever. And of course, the Raiden trailer was unhygiened in the sense that, well, he's one of the

old characters that are alive. Well, just before we jump off though, I tried to say like Keith's changed his name on Twitter to the nerf button. Yeah. And he's just like, send me all your complaints, send me all your woes. I nerf everything. I am the nerf button. Yeah.

And in the middle of EVO, during the KI finals, he's commenting on things. Like Sidira, he's like, now, doesn't this character look like she needs a good wake-up DP? And everyone's like, no! And he's like, I hear your complaints. I am the nerf button. It was really good. That's cute.

That's cute. Yeah. Raiden also confirmed for Mortal Kombat X. Didn't see that one coming. No. I saw that headline and I was like, I don't even want to... Raiden was one of the... I don't even want to dignify that announcement.

He's one of the only characters that was guaranteed to be in the game. Exactly. But he does have his secondary style, which is now a trap set-ups kind of thing. Yeah. He has the teleport, lightning, and the traps. The one that looks like he makes, like, Aegis reflectors. Yeah. That one is crazy weird.

Yeah. That's really cool. So fun stuff there. Looks like he has a new... Maybe it's not. I don't know. It's... But I think he looks like an upwards version of the...

Yeah, I think that's right. Of the other style. A diagonal one. Yeah, a diagonal one. Yeah, a little bit. So we're going on there with MKX. I also want to mention, what should we call it, in Ultra, did you see Smug when he plays? This guy that was...

Of course. He's one of the best Dudley players I've ever seen. Yeah, of course. Mr. Duff City is the name they're going with. He's just great. And I was like, oh god, he gets perfects on people. Like, fucking... And you're looking at it and you're like, that's how I want to see a Dudley play.

Yeah. Ain't no other way to play Dudley like that. I think SKL pointed out something. He's like, the international language of looking at your stick and then back at the screen. Like, what just happened? It doesn't matter what you speak. That is always going to be there. Not a country you're from.

Yeah, it's amazing. You will look at your stick. Yeah. Oh, and of course, we can't forget. Apes do not want war. Oh. Apes want Mountain Dew Baja Blast. Yeah, Baja Blast, shit, a lot to play.

So all we got in between was sponsorships of Planet of the Apes trailer and which everyone's memorized. Did they actually have, like, the CG Apes saying that? No, no, no, no. Planet of the Apes was a thing that would play constantly and the Baja Blast was a constant thing for Twitch. Okay, okay. So everyone's just all about that shit now. I thought it was like Transformers and Having Mountain Dew in the movie. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

I gotta ask, were those the Twitch ads? Were those the, like, in-stream ads? Uh, I think, well, I think the Baja Blast was a Twitch ad because you saw DJ Weet and those guys on those ads. I started watching it somewhere else and I was getting those ads and I looked at my place and I was getting French Kellogg's serials. Oh, interesting. And now I'm all about the Seriales. Of course. Has anyone drank Baja Blast?

No. I haven't drank Baja Blast. I've never heard of it until this second. Well, I just look at the flavor. I had it once because they only have it at Taco Bell up till now. I'm sure it's amazing. And it's not bad. Did you eat it with the Doritos shell as well?

Probably. From the Maxim Keely effect? Yes, yes, and those are better than the regular shells. Of course, sure. Doritos is good. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. But no, like Doritos was wrong. I, I, like to me, I love her Keely too.

I look at that and I'm just, I'm like, you know what, FGC? Sure, man. Needs love, needs support, and I need, it needs big sponsors. It's gonna survive the next 10 years. So that's fine. I gotta say, like, it was obvious, it became obvious that there was not going to be a Nintendo announcement when Nintendo said, hey, we're announcing characters on Monday, the day after. And you're like, what?

Why wouldn't you do it on stage? Why? Yeah, because no. Well, and Reggie even had a special little collab thing prepared for you both. But it's fine because Reggie in his video said no Johns. No Johns. Yeah. So that's acknowledgement.

Fair enough. What an utter waste of an opportunity. That being said, that announcement did just happen. I know. That was great. It's a lot of a mess. It's a lot of stuff. But like, let's pause that.

But also, like, they announced Tekken 7. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did they? No, they did. So, like, whatever. Evil cast for the beginning of this cast, because it was an under-crazy weekend. They announced Tekken 7 even though it leaked.

And Harada goes up on stage and is like, okay, so we need a really good reaction to show my bosses. So just pretend that you weren't expecting this when the logo shows up at the end of the trailer. Also, also, we were working on three games. Yeah. This was not the game we were supposed to joke. Yeah, yeah.

It's not clear whether that was serious. It's not clear if that was serious or not. It's not clear if that was a joke or not. So, like, I believe that he's working on three games because he said that in the past. Yeah. But I don't know whether to believe if, like, that's the wrong one. I don't know. But what bugs me about the situation?

I hope those three games are Cross Street Fighter, Tekken 7, and Pokken Fighters. Of course. God damn it. I think that's all there. It really bugs me that they just showed fucking nothing for it, though. Considering the crux of the trailer was tuning for more in ten days. Yeah, and it was like Kizuya's mom is now a thing. What a disappointing trailer.

It was a disappointing trailer, but you know what? The leak was more exciting than the trailer. It was. It was so much more exciting. I didn't watch the trailer. Is this woman shown? It's a CG trailer. You only see her back.

You only see her back. She's 80? Like, she should be? No, because it's a flashback. You can't even tell. It's a flashback. She's glaring and talking about the double joke. But you know what?

That's kind of still better than an announcement that there are no announcements. As Ono comes up there to say, how we got nothing. How incredibly hype would people be for a screenshot of that? Well, good thing they're going to show up in ten days. But why wouldn't you show it to the 150 plus thousand watchers on the evil screen? This isn't down to Harada or anyone who understands fighting games. It's down to gin marketing. No, no.

I'm not criticizing Harada. I'm criticizing gin marketing. Really hard. Also, they're talking, like, mad hype about the Unreal Engine. Because they're going to be losing it, apparently. Does Ono have nothing to show? Well, it's not ready. It's hard.

He has nothing. We know he's willing to show stuff that's, like, barely functional. And get punished for it later. I guess. Maybe the last beating was too much. He has had his health problems. But I mean, you know, these things take time. Yeah.

But all in all, a great Evo. Shout outs to shout outs. Shout outs to commentary from Max. Yeah. That was really great. He did a good job. The poll event was super fun. It's weird that he's so good at commentary, like, right off the bat.

You know what I mean? Well, when you have a good personality and when you have the ability to, like, actually when you know the game inside out, you can do great commentary. Yeah. And Max is, like, not only, like, a really good player at KI, but, like, he's got a great personality and just works in all situations. And part of that is that he's able to just immediately summon the excitement. Yeah.

No, it's perfect. It's perfect. This entirely besides the point that his whole channel is thinking deeply on the video that he's posting and commenting over it. And he's probably like, oh, there's a second guy here. This is, like, twice as easy. And I guess that's his show. No, and it's like, usually you've got, like, the technical guy and you've got the hype man.

He knows how to flip back and forth between both. A little bit, yeah. And be excited while delivering the information. Shout outs to, um, yeah, Persia. You mean Benny's owner? Did you see that? I saw a bunch of comments like, Benny's owner is on street. That's pretty funny.

It's just weird because Benny isn't really even his dog. It's his girlfriend's dog. No way. Man, he was like, I didn't like Benny at first. No way. But now he's the hypest dog ever. He's the dog of hype. Yeah, no.

Yipe's girlfriend Persia was doing some commentary as well. Yeah. And like calling shit out in advance. All the commentary was fantastic. Yeah, no, the Phoenix setup. Like calling the grab on that. And everyone's like, yo, she knows her shit. That was pretty good.

And you know, I was all in all, I really enjoyed it, man. Fun weekend solid shit. It's one of those things where it's like. Everyone crying on stage. Yeah. Tears, tears from everyone, man. That was, it was, it was, it was, it was hard. It was, it was touching.

You know, J-Wang rolling on the ground. The return of the king. He fucking, just along, just along Juan Marvel. And he got up and he ran it and he just falls on the floor and just starts rolling. And then gets back up over Simpson. Yeah, just rolling, literally rolling. You know, Martin showing up and then just, he's all.

Martin's alive. Martin's alive. And he got in. He's still pretty good. He's alive and he got into top eight. Did he win the dive kick tournament? No, no, I mean, I mean, canonically. Oh yeah.

Yeah. Martin probably wins like Tatsunoko tournaments and shit. Yeah. So no, like whatever, man. That was, that was that. That's not what Martin got out of fighting games. Not pressure. No.

No, no, no. How much run, man? He's running. Again, apparently he plays really well when his only goal is to take out Chris G. Yeah. That's all he wanted to do and he did it, you know, so. No collusion, I hope. No collusion.

It didn't seem like that. Chris G's never gonna let that down. I just realized that because that's what popped right in my head. Yeah. As soon as you said Chris G was the word collusion. At one point he was getting booed on stage and he just leaned back and just inhaled it. He just took it in.

Well, women F champ. When Filipino champ got out there and was just booing and he was like, Yeah. That's the only thing you can do. He went up. Just Randy Ortonet. Yeah, man. Filipino champ is the biggest heel now.

I love him. It's great. It's great. But they're all still friends and they're all still heroes. But he's such a hero now. But you gotta play it. He's like fucking Magneto shit and top eight. You don't do that, but he did that.

Or right before the timeout match and they both just start crotch, crotch, crotch, crotch, crotch, crotch, crotch, crotch, like like teabagging themselves. Anyway. So we have a special episode of the friend cast day. A bunch of couple of things going on. We're gonna be, I guess, doing ‑‑ last week we were going to be doing the Game of Thrones spoiler cast. Yes.

End of this episode. That's gonna be ‑‑ well, we'll get into it. It's gonna be for Season 4. We're gonna do Liam's anime roundup. Which is gonna be a lot shorter than you may anticipate. That's fine. I have a part to play in his anime roundup. But it's for the next ‑‑ in this current season.

I have a part to play as well, so we can help you buff that up a bit. Yeah. Okay. Buff it. And ‑‑ Buff my anime match. But before that, special announcements. Sorry for the special announcements.

Some of you may ‑‑ Sorry, Siren. Sorry, Siren. Sorry, Siren. That is bad things are coming. Yeah, it is bad things. Don't do that. That means they're about to be dropping bombs.

Oh. Because that always scares the shit out of me. Yeah. The slow wind up in the distance. Oh, fine. Trying to be cool about it. No bombs getting dropped. The worst kept secret on all of the Internet.

I don't think it's the worst kept secret, but it's not kept up there. It's a bad secret. It's not kept well. We did a good job keeping it a secret until one day when I told Plague about it. And coincidentally, the same day it got posted on the Reddit, ladies and gentlemen, the www.superbestfriendsplay.com is live. Or www.twobestfriendsplay.com. No, that's just a redirect.

That's just a redirect. But if you can't remember Super, you can just put it into. Exactly. They'll take you to the same place. Exactly. Some people still send emails to the wrong email on the podcast. So, yeah, we've got the website up and ready to go. It's a website where you can look at things.

All of our videos are there. It is going to be up to date constantly. And it is going to be sure. I better get it up to date before the small heads go to slide. Pull out your phone right now. No. Did we update it yesterday? We did.

So we're fine. But like, it's going to have, as Matt and I mentioned at the Magfest panel, some stuff that is too hot for you two. Too hot. Deem too steamy, right? So one of the best examples is Matt. This whole shenanigans got kicked off because of your fantastic cartoon stupidity series. And any sort of grip on YouTube happened because of all these stupid cartoon matters?

That's how your channel originally got known. That's how, you know what, we give them a lot of guff, but that probably wouldn't have happened if Kotaku hadn't linked to the original Street Fighter stupidity. Fair enough. Cartoon flop house. But those videos are poison on YouTube. Yeah, they're not smart to put on YouTube. They're in trouble.

A lot of them don't fucking matter, but some of them do. So those are all there. I got them to post it the second time. I got the second time. Yeah, you did. You did. Yeah, that's true. That's true.

There's Street Fighter fight for nothing. Well, that's where I was going to go next. And right in hand with that stupidity shit is we have the series that we tried to launch that never took off the ground. We got to preview an episode of it for some of you guys at Magfest. Yeah. But we're going to be putting up a Street Fighter fight for nothing. It's our Street Fighter stupidity.

What a bunch of garbage. What a bunch of bullshit. Terrible. What a bunch of stupid crap. It's perfect. It's the dumbest. So enjoy. I watched it again recently for the first time in months.

I'm like, yeah, I can see why this didn't get picked up. Yeah. But there's a couple episodes of that. So you're going to be seeing some of those. And in general, it's also got links to our streams, which we mentioned. We have links to two snacks and some of the gripes that work. Links you guys might want to check out. You can sign up.

Leave comments through the whole thing. All the old seasons of Machinima that are like impossible to fucking fight. Yeah. All the old single episode we did for Machinima are all there embedded so you can, like, you never have to look for them. They're all slightly defined. The search system is pretty damn good. You might want to call it a one-stop shop.

Yeah. You might want to call it a one-stop shop for all two guys. Can we trademark that? No. No. That'd be a good term to get. I'm pretty sure like an 80-year-old man trademarked that like 80 years ago. Fuck.

20 years ago. But hey, four out of four best friends watch videos on to bestfriendsplay.com. Yeah, exactly. So this is accurate. I mean, just ask this scientist. He'll tell you that all the super best friends love the super best friends website. I would love to watch videos on other sites, but the goddamn government won't let me do my research.

I can't get the facts out there. No. That's the worst kept secret. It's like we're talking and it's like, oh, we got to keep this hush-hush. And then I go into the website and I see comments are being posted, such as, you guys are nerds? Yeah. Yeah. No.

But yeah, that's it. Like this is just, this is only for everyone listening to the podcast. The official launch is of course going to be Wednesday. It's going to be Wednesday. Boy, you guys got a little sneak peek, I guess. A little sneak peek at it and then the big views. But we'll track your IPs. Yeah.

We'll know who got it. We can do that now. The big debut is coming soon. We will not track your IPs. We will not track your IPs. You can't say shit like that. People get in trouble for that. No, but we'll root your computer.

No. Shut up. Oh, we can't tell about that. Oh, shit. That reminds me of like, live through your die hard shit where the guy is like, track all IPs. Hack all IPs. Hack all IPs.

Yeah. Yeah. It's so good. It's like, that's a security group. Yeah. No, no, we're not done. Yeah, it's a website. You should look at it.

Go take a look, you guys. We appreciate it. We worked really hard on it. We appreciate it a lot more than YouTube. Yeah. Yeah. Because that doesn't work out sometimes. I'm sick.

I'm sick. Anyone who puts up YouTube videos on YouTube knows this. This fucking new layout where you have to go to Creator Studio and then put Video Manager is the worst. The worst. It is the worst. The worst. The worst.

Behind the scenes, it's fallen to shit. You used to be able to click on your icon and then hit Video Manager. Now he got it. One more click. This is bullshit. This is just like the annotation change. Yeah. Remember when you used to be able to click the button and then click annotations?

And now there's fucking, oh, fucking shit. And we were just talking about how broken the comments system is in between negative and really negative comments. Yeah. Thumbs up, thumbs down. It's all the same thing. I found it on the reddit. A guy nicely explained how just the YouTube comments system is completely broken.

And it just polarized around activity. And skewed towards the first negative comments. Like all activity in general. It's a whole thing. But none of that will be a problem on the website. This is our bestfriendsplay.com. Also, the super bestfriendscast.com website will be redirecting to the podcast section now conveniently displayed on our website.

Really? Yep. Oh, that's cool. And when he puts up the podcast in the little blog part, he'll say, here's the friendcast. Oh, that's awesome. Some people will be surprised today when they go to find this. Yeah. And it leads somewhere else completely.

And they'll be like, what the fuck? Did someone hack the best friends? This is different. Did they hack them? This is not what I am used to. Did they hack them and give them a super good website that I should use every day? Yes, they did. Did, person?

Yes, they did. Liam, get out your lasso. It's time to round up and wrangle some animus. So, I briefly spoke to Pat about this. Briefly? I think I very briefly mentioned to you. You're just like, fuck this thing. I'm just like, fuck this thing.

Because we saw people gearing up and getting ready to come at you on this site. Yeah, people just sharpening their torches and lighting their pitchforks. That guy out on the street in front of your house that planted the SAM site right at your door. I know, you're in front of my door. I live there. Database. Database. Living in the database.

Living in the database. So, like, I guess I got... You know what? I still have not watched the database intro. You have not? I still have not watched, but I'm hating it more and more just by osmosis. Dude, you've got to watch it. No, do I?

You've got to. It makes that joke really funny, I promise. But I'm still finding it funny now. Yeah, you're right. Because it's the guy sitting at the SAM site saying it to himself, aiming at Liam's door. For people out there who don't know, because I've seen a lot of comments every time this season rolls around, anime has never been and will probably never be my number one thing. No way, no!

I know I just broke my contract, Matt. You broke a thing! You're literally burning it before me. If I'm not watching Mushishi or Ping Pong the animation, it's not because I don't know about them. It's because I just don't want to watch it. To be fair, you should watch Mushishi because it's really fucking good. I know, it's good. I just don't really want to watch it.

I'm just doing other stuff in my life. Hey, there was a really good game that came out last week that I'm not playing. Same thing. Exactly, it happens. But with anime, it's a problem. No, it's unforgivable when you're not up to date on the same things that everyone else has up to date on. What are you up to date on? What am I up to date on?

I dropped everything this season except for four shows. The ones where I was like, might be incest, we're all just incest in the end. You know that, hey, if you look at it, if you look at it... Surprise, surprise. Shocker. So here's the deal. He's gonna put it in? He put it in.

Today is like super spiral space where perception is reality. If you think it's incest, it's totally incest. It's totally incest, exactly. But the one about the magic high school got weird where like, the magic high school kids were doing policeman work and it was okay, but they're like 15 years old and there's like blood and shit. And they're going out and stopping policeman jobs and I'm like, that's weird, that's stupid. So I stopped watching it. Why are kids doing that? It was dumb and the character was a huge Mary Sue, so fuck it.

If you're talking about police work, all you need is your under arrest. Yeah. Oh, wow. That's as far as it should go. Or Mad Bull for me. No, I mean, it's kind of interesting though because like generally, you know, there's a lot of... Not a lot, but you get the comments about how it's like, oh, we're super anime plebs that don't know anything and you know, whatever. Yeah.

And it's like, I guess we are. When I go back in my head and I think about like, I don't know, the last 15 years or so, I'm literally counting in three digits the amount of shit that I've seen, but still, that's nothing. You're not penetrating the surface. Of course. We're not talking about a genre, we're talking about a medium. Right. And that's the difference.

Because it's not like crime movies, it's television. Yeah. Yeah. We don't actually care that much about anime, we just watch the shows. So, you cut out everything but the four because they just couldn't hold your attention. Yeah, and the other one that I wanted to touch on that I cut out was No Game, No Life, which was one of the might be incest ones. Yeah.

Which turns out to totally have been incest. Right. In a non-canon creation by the author. So he needed to get it in there. So he didn't. But he still did it. This is what I read and I didn't bother going any further because it didn't care how much. You needed it.

But it's a show about games and, you know, clever games and I always like that kind of stuff where it's like, oh, look at how they manipulate this thing into such a clever way that all this game didn't go the way I expected. But it was all bullshit where it was like, oh, they're playing this chess game. What's the clever turnaround going to be? Oh, there's no clever turnaround. He just has to act more like a leader and his chess pieces follow him. That's not a clever turnaround.

Or like they played a game of Othello where each part, each piece, you know how Othello works? Each tile represented a part of you, but you didn't know which ones. So he manipulated it so that he would give away all these parts. But it's like how, you don't know which ones are yours in the... Boom! I stopped watching it after that because I was like, I don't like this show. And even if I'm wrong on that, I still didn't like this show.

So what did you finish? I finished Love Live, which continues to be the worst animation, the worst idle show on TV that I am strangely compelled to watch. Yeah, I know that feeling. Not as good as Idlemaster, but whatever, it does the job. I finished Jojo. Well, I'm still watching Jojo. It's ongoing.

It's perpetual right now. Jojo's forever back. And Jojo's great. Jojo's fantastic. You see David production talking about like, part four. And they're nodding their head no less. Absolutely. Exactly.

It's like if part three does well, we'll do part four. Exactly. Jojo's still perfectly well and good. Can't wait for more Jojo. What, tomorrow? Yeah, exactly. Jojo will continue eternally. That will not exactly tomorrow, but soon.

More or less soon, yeah. Need more. Black Bullet, which after I watched the first episode, Cranky Construct was like, fuck, you read the anime. It's way better. Read it. Read the anime. And I was like, okay.

You're like Cranky Construct. I read the anime. And he said, damn it, manga. And I said, yeah, okay. Okay. So I watched the anime. And I was like, yeah, that was entertaining. That was entertaining.

Whatever. Mary Sue's. It was fun though. Just a fun, dumb action anime. It gets the job done. Nothing special. Right on. And I read the manga and I was like, fuck, he was right.

It's way better. Ah, the poorly adapted. Lost in translation. It's just kind of like, yeah, adapted to 12 episodes and make it work. Okay. So just not worth the time. Kind of. Yeah.

Okay. Just, just. It doesn't have anything to do with Black Lagoon. Just read the anime. It has nothing to do with Black Lagoon. Okay. There's a similar time. No, it's kind of like a, like Attack on Titan situation where we're within these walls.

There aren't actual walls. There's a thing. And there's creatures coming in. That seems almost exactly like Attack on Titan. It's definitely not. But it's worth the watch. It's such a shit. Like that kind of like dark, modern fantasy kind of thing.

You can't say nothing about Knights of Sidonia being Netflix. Okay. I was going to ask about that. I just went on Netflix and I see Netflix original series. Knights of Sidonia. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What is that? Is it good?

Is it a thing? It's the same thing they did with, it's the same thing they did with Arrested Development and House of Cards where they're just like, this thing's being made. And some people like it. And they're going to give money to it to get it exclusive. And also in some cases for the production. Because I've been interested in watching just because I'm like, has this happened ever before?

No man. I don't think so. Netflix getting that thing. They got Attack on Titan really aggressively. Yeah, they did it. But I don't think, like, country-wide. Hey man, any time you name something after a new song, you got my interest. Try to say the fucking question about it.

You got my interest, bitch. I think it's spelled slightly differently. It's spelled differently. Yeah. I am such a sucker. Whatever. I'm such a sucker. And the last one that I watched and my favorite one this season was Chaika Koffin Princess,

which I described. You did describe it. Little anime girl does Jango Unchained. That's correct. I don't remember that. It scratched that super, like, specific itch for, like, fun fantasy romp. Yeah. Where it's just like, generic fantasy world go crazy.

So she's going around with her coffin, collecting parts of her dead dad to bury him. But then, after a little bit, you're like, wait, is she actually going to bury him? Is that actually what's going on here? No, she's going to make a robot. Who knows? Dead bot. And it ended on, like, cliffhanger note, like, character died, stuff happened, and next season starts in October.

So I'm really looking forward to that one. I was actually really fond of that one. Super fun, like, fantasy romp. If you want a fantasy romp, Chaika Koffin Princess. It should just be called fantasy romp. Actually, no, you didn't really spoil anything there. But something dramatic happens. Dude, the cast is big.

So one character dying is, like, you couldn't... As long as you're not clarifying the main character, necessarily. No, exactly. You couldn't point at one and say which one died, necessarily. It'd be a crapshoot. I want to add in a little thing that it's not from this season at all, but I was eating dinner and clicking around and whatever in between, like, working on shit and doing stuff, and happened to just, before I knew it, I finished Watamote.

Yeah, yeah. I had no idea. The manga or the anime? The anime. Okay, yeah. Yeah, I had no idea. I was, like, I was gearing up to, like, because I was getting into it. Yeah, and you're like, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. And I was getting ready to watch, like, a long series and it was fucking 12 episodes and I was like, what? No. Wow. Yeah. Oh man, so... The manga's really good.

Like, I really recommend it. Well, now I really want to know what else is going on. You can't do that. You can't have it, like, that both ways. I go, why don't you watch Epo and you're like, oh, 70 episodes. I know, no, no, I hear it. You get a 12 one, which is always a good length, but it was just wobbly off. You know, it's just because I didn't feel it coming, because it doesn't feel...

Okay, did you know how many episodes it was? No, not at all. Well, that's different. Because I wasn't even thinking about it, I was just clicking next. You're just like, I'm going to watch one episode and see. Randomly, you know, blah, blah, blah, exactly. 12 episodes can't go really fast. And, man, that thing I said earlier about, it's like, she is the extra Azumanga Dio character

that is just rejected in the background and never gets to hang out with it. Fuckin' to a T. Yeah. And, like, when I say it gets cringe, like, Pat, I think you would like this. Oh, this is the one about the girl that's got a super awkward line. It's super awkward and not popular. I don't think I can watch that. No, you've got to watch it.

I don't think I want to see that. I don't think I want to feel those feelings. Because when you see the way they go about it, and then, like, the ramifications of her awkward actions, and so on and so forth. No, I'm saying, I think it's a little too close up. Like, when you start, when you see that shit, I'm like, they know exactly... She knows, or she, I don't know, is the author. That writer.

Manga! Exactly what it's like. I know people like that. I've seen that happen. That behavior, that thought process. Yeah. Everything. Full head, full esteem ahead.

Like, oh. I only read the manga. Did it have the bit with the ants? Yes. Yes, it did. It was really the ants singing there so much. No, dude, the manga's really good. It's like a study on just social ineptitude and awkwardness.

It's just goddamn accurate, and it's entertaining at the same time. Yeah. It's really feminine. I know. Yeah. You might, you know, I think, take a peep at one episode. Yeah, fine, fine, fine. See what you think.

Fine, fine. But I recommend it to anyone who's not going to get super buttered by that concept. Also, sorry, that just made me think of a thing just in the midst of my peaforness. Is that why you like Resee? No, I like Resee because she's the best. Wait, not because of backstory things. No, she's the best. Okay, well, moving on.

She's the coolest and hottest and has the twin tails. Strong words for the worst girl. Shut up, shut up. Oh my god. I have been contacted by the Church of Chie. They got in touch. They're looking to recruit a member. She's alright.

I'm sitting in the pews right now. I'm listening to the sermon. But that was already known. You got my attention. You moved through Arena. Yeah. You already loved Chie. As a design, but I just built for you.

But I'm like personality qualities. It's ridiculous. And I also still got to see what's going on with Naoto because Naoto's awesome. So we got to find out. We got to find out. But yeah, that was it. Yeah, and just speaking of manga real quick, where I recommend that to you, Terraformars just came out in English.

Terraformars. That shit is really fun reading it right now. Terraformars. Terraformars. Let me read. That's the Terraformars. Okay, I thought it was Terraformars. Like Terraformars.

Terraformars, which is bad English. No, it's really good. But it's Terraformars, but it's also Terraformars. They went to Terraformars. It is what you think. They went to Terraformars using cockroaches as part of the plan. And then they have to go exterminate the cockroaches, but they've evolved. So then you're going to have to get a special gorilla that thrives on cockroach meat.

Yeah. Well, what do we do with the gorillas? They'll just freeze to death. Okay, top dumbest anime slash manga names you can think of off the top. Kill a kill. Get backers. Get backers. Get backers.

Fate, Prism, Illia. Fate, Stay Night. All of the Fate, Fate, Hollow, Axtaria. Uninhibited planets survive. What the fuck are you trying to speak? What is that? Those are words put together. There's more out there.

It's hard on the top of your head, but you know. And I'm not a huge fan of the trope that is adjective-adjective noun. Like your description of the job and then the person's name. You know what I'm talking about? Whatever. Like something, something person. That's everything from the name. She captures cars though.

He grapples you guys. Yeah, exactly. What's his name? Becky. Yeah. Did you have a thing to adapt over there? I did. I was shocked that there was an anime that Liam left out that we had both promised to hop on.

Which one was it? For the new season. So I watched two things over the past week. Sorry, you mean just starting now? Yeah. Well, I've been watching. I just want to talk about the new ones. I watched two things over this past week.

One was bleak and awesome, and the other is bleak and sword art. I thought you were going to say that much. Thank you. Yeah, I thought that too. Sword art. Sword art online. I'm bored. Boy, am I glad we didn't talk about this last week.

Because that is the worst first episode of the second season. For anything I've ever seen in my entire life. It is. It is the worst. There is so little that happens in that episode. It is literally all like we're going to sit at a cafe and discuss. It takes place in one restaurant. Discuss the setup.

Because they got to put the money away for the action scene. There is so little that actually happens. Yeah, the stinger for the episode is an action scene that takes place halfway through the second episode. Like they put it at the end as the stinger. But it's actually the action scene from the climax of the next episode. That's how little happens. And then you start episode two and you have a long, slow, creepy pan shot of a character's

vagina. And you're just like, God, no. Get that out of here. Again. Again with the vaginas. I'm trying to push it. So Sword Art Online is a series of novels that was written like 10 years ago. And in recent interviews, the guy who wrote it is like, for the weird, creepy incest plot

line, his response is like, boy, was I young and stupid. Oh, well. And so I'm like, OK, maybe this new thing will be better. I think that old, really? Yeah. And maybe this new thing will be better. And it's like, no, it's creepy right away. And it's boring.

And it's really, really boring. Sword Art 2, like, Kirito's motivation is the most flimsy bullshit. The government asks him to go solve MMO murders. After being trapped in an MMO for ages. So they send him back in. Well, he does it. He accepts it all. So that's probably, like, on a large scale.

We talked about Sword Art and how it has a lot of problems. It's like blatantly misogynist in a really creepy way. It starts at the top and it just slides down. And it blows the initial concept really hard. So the initial concept is like, it's old time. And it's like, everyone's trapped in an MMO and you die. Yeah. You die, right?

You die, you die. So when they finish that, the whole thing just crawls all the way up its own ass. Because after that massacre happens and 4,000, 5,000 people die, all the characters that were trapped in this situation for years. Immediately. Immediately just jump back into new ones. Oh, I love playing video games. And that demonstrates addiction.

And it's just, it's just... So you liked it. It's fucking... You know what? So that's the worst problem. What? It's creepy and it's boring and I know I'm going to watch all of it. Yeah.

Because it's just interesting enough in its premise. Kirito is such a Mary Sue that I just can't look away. The worst. The worst. It's both like I have to watch this because it's bad. And it's also like I love this concept so much. That I have to watch it. And it's the only thing that's doing it that I have to watch it.

Yeah. And it's like, what if there was no fighting games? Except for... That's horrible. Except for Evil Zone and Distrega. Spectral versus Generation. Right? Yeah.

You'd be like, oh, I hate this fighting game. And I'm so mad at myself. I just got a text message, Pat. They finished building the SAM site in front of your house. Excellent. Excellent. Excellent. So in order to punish myself, I decided to watch something even bleaker because I felt

like it. I was just like... What did you decide? I've never seen this. I should watch this. So instead of Evo, I watched The Road. Oh. Wow.

Cool. I thought you were going to say I watched Bleak. Wow. It's Bleak. Because it's the bleakest shit ever. Wow. So I troll people with that movie and they're like, I haven't even watched something fun to watch on my girlfriend.

Oh, you should try The Road. It's a great road trip. It's a road trip movie. Okay. So the first thing I have to say is... Please, please be easy on the spoilers. Yeah. I don't want to know.

I don't want to know. You should watch it. I don't want to know. There's very little spoilers. It's an easy movie to talk around because you can talk about the tone. It is a movie about suicide. Cool. It is so bleak.

It is a scenario so bleak that the core theme is, should I kill myself right now? This is so bad. Yeah. Right? I've never seen a gray or movie. They took the movie and gray-scaled it. There are like four shades of color in this movie. But it's not black and white.

No. It is almost black and white. You look at set photos and you realize that they've actually gray-scaled the movie. Like they're asking for some actual color correction going on. It's gray-scaled to a level of like mad world. The only color is red. Right. The interesting psychological effect is that actual gray-scale is not as depressing as

slight color. Yeah. But pale. Well, guess what? That's what it is. And so it's been said a lot by various developers and people in the industry that everyone's just trying to make a game that's aliens. Everyone's just trying to make a game that's Lord of the Rings.

You know, everyone's just trying to remake these things over and over. And I watch this movie and I go, holy god damn shit, Last of Us is the biggest rip-off ever. This is the last of us moving. But do you know what that is? That's like, if it wasn't for Ridley Scott's Kingdom of Heaven, Assassin's Creed wouldn't look anything like that. You're totally right. You're totally right.

And I don't really consider that a rip-off. I guess like this, someone just beats you to the punch and like if you want to do this world, this is the only way you can do it. But at the same time, it's like there's no zombies or anything. It's just like survivalism. Yeah. It's just like there are shot-for-shot locations, scenes, scenarios that are lifted. So I'm going to pull up a still afterwards of the main characters and be like, that's

Joel and Ellie. They look exactly the same. That being said, there's an additional 12 hours to the Last of Us and a great multiplayer. And there's color. And you know what? And at the same time, I will not hesitate to say that like Fist of the North Star rips off Mad Max. Yeah.

I didn't realize how much Fist of the North Star rips off Mad Max until like a month ago. The entire story. There are no original ideas and I'm not passing a value judgment on Last of Us. But that being said to this, but it's like when you find like a lot of things have multiple inspirations, right? Yes. But it's rare that you find like this.

Yeah. The thing. It's so on the nose. Literally 28 days later, plus the road is the Last of Us. And you know what? I think it's important to say that. That doesn't mean I'm going to enjoy it any less. No.

Yeah, exactly. Because fuck, the individual piece of content is still awesome. There are no original ideas, but it's just so rare that like it lines up that you're like, it's that. It's that right there. I think there's some original ideas. There is, but it's tough to say. Like what about Noby Noby Boy?

Well, yeah. Okay. But there's one point. But like a phrase that I know. Your Simcomteacher, your old Simcomteacher would deliver that fact to you. Of course. In class. Like everything is, every shot is inspired by a shot that that director saw in a movie

he watched. Sure. Sure. And then there's Noby Noby Boy. Yes. Exceptions. Here's the deal though. Someone's going to find like a piece of art that looks like Noby Noby Boy from 800

years ago. Yeah. Right? Well, until they do. Like even if your idea is wholly original from yourself, someone probably came up with it before you. Yeah. Fantastic Movie.

They found the French, not not French, the Italian runway model artwork from fashion magazines that are the exact Jojo poses they put on the cover of a shit. Fantastic Movie. I felt like my day was ruined after I watched it. Perfect. Like it's mission accomplished. That's excellent. So like.

Should you watch it before you go to bed then? So I was going to say don't watch it late at night because that's what I did. Don't watch it early in the morning. Ruin my whole day because of it. Like you know. Like your next day. Like no. Just like you know it was an hour or so before I went to bed I watched it.

I was just like bummed out and like my whole day was like retroactively bummed out. Watch it early in the day and then go do something happy. The other thing why the movie is so effective is that Vigo Morterson when you look at his face and how it normally is, if you try to make him into a scat, not like you know a hearty warrior like Lord of the Rings or whatever. Yeah. You make him into like this world of scavenging and no food and no water. His face looks so inebriated and skeletal like that it's the most effective face to

get across this. It has these shots where he like takes his shirt off and like this dude lost 60 pounds. Kind of thing. The other amazing thing about the movie is the end of the world happened. The movie never explains what it was. It's not important. Exactly. It's not about that.

It's not mise-en-scene. It's just not even told. It's not important. Oh it's shown a little bit but it's like it's happening in the background and in the house. Okay it is mise-en-scene. It's a little flashback here and there. But you have no idea what it was.

Yeah. Well again ultimately it's not about that. I love it. I love it. I love it. Yeah it's a hard watch. Yeah. And the only other thing I did with my week is I bought a bicycle.

Wow. Bicycle. I was walking down the street. Bicycle. It was a beautiful sunny day. Seriously? Yes. It was a beautiful sunny day and I fought to back to when I was a kid when I was 13,

14 and I was like I used to ride my bike all the time. That was fun. I enjoyed the aspect of riding a bike. So I went down to Canadian Tire as they sell bikes, got a bike, hopped on and holy shit kids keep in shape because the last thing you want to do is be talking with somebody and you're like I used to ride my bike all the time, 3, 4, 5 kilometers no problem and they ask you when was that? And you say 15 years ago.

If you run this idea by me at some point or mention that I want to told you get a Bixie. So our city has an awesome one. No I don't want a Bixie. I want a bicycle that is mine. Okay. All right. Done. Fun.

We are really close to riding his bicycle. And you know why? Bixie is near my house. That's actually true. There's no Bixies near his place. No, there's one. There aren't. I know.

There are none. That's why out in front of my building there's a bike. It's not fun to walk 20 minutes to a Bixie to do your bike. Yeah. To bike 10 minutes. And then bring it back. For people that are just wondering what the fuck, our city has a rental bike service that is basically like you subscribe for the year and then you go grab a bike off the rack

and you lock it back in on your destination and you don't have to carry it up your apartment stairs. Yeah. Or put it in your doorway and have everyone think you're a hipster. I know people that use Bixie bikes and they love them and I know people that are like this is the biggest pain in the ass. I hate these fucking things. I've been overcharged.

There's people that have 50-50 experience with the service. I mean like I got to run. I happen to get a discount through work at the time and it was one of those things where you put it in and it's like this is convenient. This is convenient. And I just hated carrying my bike upstairs. I cannot understand. If you have a spicy staircase.

I have an elevator. I just lock my down stairs. Yeah. I have an elevator and my building has a bike rack in front of it even if I'm too lazy. That being said I should note that even if you're an out of shape piece of shit like me riding bikes is fun. It's very fun. It is.

It's very fun. I've been riding the bike. No honestly like if that's the thing is the weather is great and if I'm not like walking with you guys and talking and stuff I'll just bike back to my place from Matt's or NJ's or whatever. You know it's great. It's fine but I enjoy just walking to destinations more because when I'm on a bike I have to think.

I can't be sloppy on a bike. But Montreal is a giant hill though. Yeah. So if you get on the big seat up the hill and you just down ride the entire time. Because my girlfriend does that to get from the door. It's so fun. And we have if you know where I live there's shitloads of hills. It's so fun.

So that's the thing though about walking to destinations like my ultimate goal is to be able to bike from my house to your house which is like nine kilometers. Yeah. So like I'm not going to walk 9K. I walked I did that do that once from your place to my place. You walked it. Once. I can walk from my place to here.

This is where Willy's right now. That's no problem. That's no problem. But you go for I did that once and I was like well I don't have to do that for another six months. Just make sure you do it like the guy on Portlandia bike coming through. Bye. Bye.

Bye. Hey. Cars. Why. Excuse me. Will I ring out my shirt. Yeah. Matt.

Stuff. I'll just go into a few things I watched and played. I finally had some time to play valiant hearts. Yeah. I talked about it last week saying I really I download this. I'm interested to play it. I finally got like. No.

I hear rule one sucks. I will work to one sucks. And it's also very simple to progress in it. Because the one thing about valiant hearts is like it's for babies basically. How awesome is the dog. Okay. I got the dog. The dog is not completed as part of the story.

The dog's all right. Dogs great. But yeah. It's a little simple of a game. I was kind of maybe it gets a little more complex. But the sort of things you have to do are kind of like what chapter did you get to. For I think I am. I don't even know how to say where I am.

There is a nice split after each chapter. Yeah. I'm not done with the current set of characters. Sure. Sure. Like I said the dog is not completed like I'm still with the dog. Man. You got to make it easy because babies need to know about mustard gas.

Yeah. That's the other thing is that I'm having more fun every time you have a new chapter. You have all these great historical facts about war. Yeah. Every time as soon as the chapter starts I'm like I want to read the facts. I want to read the facts. I got a bunch of Canadian army artifacts. Yeah.

Yeah. Canadian army artifacts. Are there any gameplay missions of like riding the cavalry into gunfire? Yes. You see that. Yes. But I haven't done that in the game. You run and then there is stuff flying at you.

Because that again as a man who knows shit all about war one. Yeah. You're riding into the musket fire. You blew my mind with the dudes riding horses against guys that were on early tanks. There was a very short period in history in which various militaries had not synced up technologically. Yeah. That shit's unbelievable.

But still I'm still enjoying it. It's good. I still think it's fun. I'm really glad it like came out. But it's one of those types of things where it's like you play it and you're kind of done. Yeah. We replay it. I'm enjoying it for sure.

I hope they keep making games like this. Yeah. Yeah. You do too. Yeah. They got the engine. It works. I don't think I'll ever play it.

The engine. Yeah. If I have any complaints they're not about the graphics or the engine. No. It seems to be on a solid plan of do like soulless AA games. Do soulless AA's and then the most heartfelt shit ever. Followed by like three indies. Yeah.

Yeah. That's the only thing I really played. I actually started watching House of Cards. Cool. I never started watching it. Cool. Yes. And I only watched it three episodes.

It's so fucking good. It's going to come a time and you're not there yet. But when you hear that opening trumpet music your body is just going to feel good. Okay. It's that way like in the wire when you walk through the gut you hear the song starts playing and you're just like, yeah, keep the devil in the hole. Like you're going to get that with that trumpet theme. And now it makes me even want to more play the new Call of Duty.

Yeah. Because Kevin Spacey wasn't on that show. I don't think the show would be very good. It would be very interesting without him. There's a way to test that theory. Huh? Watch the British original show that he did. I did not know.

Oh. There was an original British version. It is a remake of a British show. Because in the opening credits it's based on the novel or based on the writings or something. There was an original series. Very curious. The BBC. Very curious.

Wait a second. Isn't House of Cards about politics? Yes. Was it about British politics? Yes. So they're just drunk? And very funny wigs. All the time wearing wigs.

Do yourself dressing up like the queen. And never wear wigs. Don't look it up. Don't do things because it's a very easy to spoil show. Okay. The only other comment is that I really dislike the reporter Kate Maras. The actress named Zoe. No.

I do not like her. She's got a bobble head. She's got a face that's like... I don't like it. But it's one of those faces that's like... You know the guy's... She's not a bad actress. I just don't like her.

But she was also an American horror story. She was. That horrible babysitter girl. But she reminds me of... Remember the actor that played Angel? David Borealis. David Borealis. Yeah.

But is he? Because look at... I think he is. But it's one of those weird things where you're like... This person is like generally hot to America standard type thing. But there's also some things a little bit off. I would say that... Zoe is a vampire.

I would say that about David. He was the hot vampire before Hot Vampire. The actual actor. I would say that more about Filion than him. Nathan Filion? Yeah. He is like... Looks like a dashing look.

But you look really closely. Like you're kind of weird. No. It's the initial impression. And that wraps up the Super Brest Gossip Cast this week. Yeah. Nathan Filion is still hot. The only other things is that I watched two documentaries on Netflix.

One about Super Heroes. He is still laughing. One about Super Heroes. Which was amazing. It was just called Super Heroes the Rise of Whatever. Sure. A three part documentary series that starred the guy that played Sabertooth and X-Men Origins Wolverine.

Is that on Netflix Canada? Yeah it is. It was really good. It was like the entire history of comics. Wow. Like from the 1950s when they had that crazy German psychiatrist that almost got them banned from America. And it really just went all the way in.

And you basically almost destroyed comics until... I'm not sure if you know about this but Stanley was like I'm going to quit. This is bullshit. I've been working here. And his wife said do one more comic. Just do whatever you want. And he goes okay I'll just make up this story about these four assholes that go to space. Yeah.

So he just made the Fantastic Four and if it wasn't for that Stanley would have walked away. The comics code as well I'm sure they talked about it. The comics code. Yeah that's what they had to establish the comics code. That was like but that was like almost like the Atari crash. Yeah it was really really similar because the only people that survived were like Batman Superman Wonder Woman.

The very biggest. And that's basically it. The Golden Ages. The only ones that were able to survive. And it's a great awesome series. They touch every hero. They touch every like big movement. What about Booster Gold?

They did not touch Booster Gold. I said major. I said major. You talked about Alan Scott. They talked about fucking Alan Moore and even got him to speak. Oh cool. They called him a pagan in the documentary. Notable British Pagans.

Wow. That's what he is. Call him like you see him. And I was going to say like if you like hearing about the history and like that topic in general really good read is a book called Eisner Miller. I've heard of it. It's a conversation between Eisner and Frank Miller. Are they just shooting the shit?

They're just shooting the shit. Talking about comics. Yeah. And god damn it Will Eisner isn't one of the legends. One of the greats. Yeah. And you know I mean the spirit the movie turned out is whatever. But the spirit the comic is fucking great.

And honestly like. Oh yeah. I saw the spirit. Well that's not what it should be remembered for. Well fuck me. Read the spirit. No. It's really good.

Don't worry. Duang didn't touch it. I gave Frank Miller a chance because Sin City was good. It's in any case like it's a fantastic read in like the history of the medium. Because I've heard of it. The only problem with the documentary they talked to Zack Snyder way too much. Oh god. And he tries to give insight.

You have no insight. Hey Zack. You completely lose what a hero is about. Hey Zack how awesome are your adaptations of comics. So awesome. They're so great. So awesome. There's a part in Eisner Miller where Eisner's like yo Frank come up with a story.

Tell me a complete story in six words. Go. And Frank Miller's like for sale baby shoes never worn. And it's just like oh what a story. Sin City and the baby war wrench. Yeah. Like that. And done.

You're like these guys know what the fuck they're doing. Of course. Yeah. And the last the other documentary I saw was TMNT power the definitive history of the Ninja Turtles. I highly recommend watching this. Yeah. Research.

Fucking amazing. There's the specific point. And I won't go too much into it. But there's a point where a guy is tasked with licensing the Ninja Turtles and shopping it around to everybody. Okay. And this is you know the genesis of like the Ninja Turtles marketing huge giant corporation. Yeah.

Every single person ever. Every motherfucker that would talk to this guy is like this is the dumbest shit ever. No. Get out of our office. Yeah. And it was like one it was playmates right. Yeah. Sure.

Sure. We'll do it. And then they did it. And then it was like holy shit. Next thing next thing. Let's try making a movie and they tasked us one movie maker with like try to sell this to movie studios. Right.

Every single movie studio. This is the crappy shit I've ever heard. Get the fuck out of my office. And then there's one place the only place was New Line Cinema and when the movie blew the fuck up. Yeah. And it's like 50 million dollars. It really blew the fuck up.

Every single studio called that same guy up and said oh we're so sorry you were totally right. Yeah. We'd love to make the sequel. And he goes how about you go fuck yourself. Yes. Perfect. That was amazing.

That's weird man. That's always the story. Yeah. They told me everything about them. Remember you telling me about like yeah they had a big falling out. They kind of separated and one was like no I don't want anything to do with this. Yeah. There's a long history.

And then they talk about how in 2014 they got back together and they're like yeah let's let's do some shit. Let's go to cons. Let's do something. Every weird indie thing that tries to shop itself to like big publishers or movies. It's always like that. It's like Brian Fargo with the Wasteland 2 Kickstarter. And then after it succeeded one of the publishers that turned him down offered to buy Wasteland

2 off of him and own the IP. Yeah. But that's that's that's with the scumbag. Yeah. Fuck you. That's that's the LA scumbag industry for you. You don't watch the video. Clearly no.

Okay. And the other really cool part is they had to get all the voice actors from the original cartoon show. Oh that's fun. And this was before James Avery died. Wow. Wow that's awesome. So they have them all in a room.

That's awesome. They have all the Ninja Turtles. They have James Avery. And seeing all the Ninja Turtle voice actors because they never except for Cam Clarke. Yeah. Except for Cam Clarke. I don't know what everyone looks like. And I'm like they're all white haired and everything but they're all voices are all

the same. Donatello his voice is Donatello. You didn't have to do anything and they're all talking and they're kind of doing they're yucking it up. And I was like oh my god this is so cool. Pat just you know you know the character that Tom Cruise plays in fucking. Use your words. Jungle Action Movie Comedy.

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A. A. Then you can just retire the brand. Forever. No you can't because I the last thing I wanted to like really really quickly is that I had the TMNT and the Nickelodeon cartoon on DVD I bought like the first DVD. Oh that's the new one right. The new one.

The like for the new generation. Yeah. The new generation. No that's 2003. Oh the new one. The new word and that one. Yeah the new word and that one. The CG one.

Okay yes. So everyone told me it's it's pretty good. I'm like oh. It's funny. And I watched it. Oh shit this is so good. This is the best Ninja Turtles cartoon in terms of clever writing funny jokes whatever and it does almost the impossible is that it makes Leonardo pretty interesting.

Oh that's good. Just Leonardo to get to hit things with the cyclops of the team. The cyclops of the team so the first thing is like they have a fight. They have a fight with some gangs and everyone is fucking up. Everyone's hitting each other with their nunchucks inside like Michael I was like whoops oh shit. You know what's good. Then they come back and Spinner's like okay look I trained you all individually.

I need to train you all as a group because we need a leader though. Who would like to be the leader and everyone's quiet for like a second and I was like I'd like to be the leader and he goes okay all right Leonardo you'll be the leader let's try this out and Raphael just goes hey I don't want to you know the standard Raphael thing and then wait no Spinner doesn't say that he goes okay well you want to be the leader so I'll meditate on that and then Raphael goes well what about me I'd like to be the leader too and he goes listen I will meditate about this my sons and he goes through a door and he pokes his head like but it's Leonardo and Raphael's like oh shit so um like they

have a fight they have an adventure they come back and he goes I finally understand why you chose me Master Splendor and he goes oh why is that Leonardo and he goes because I'm the I'm a great leader I knew the plan like I did everything and I'm a heroic and I can do it and he goes oh no and he goes well why because you were the first one to ask oh and he goes oh well because that would that mean that you would have chose anyone of us that had asked and he goes yes anyone even Michelangelo oh no it is a really good series two qualms Donatello is played by classic Raphael boys oh that's weird he just hired him so Donatello sounds like Raphael I can't it does not feel right and the voice actor

for Shredder is terrible I like it but for anyone who's never watched the old turtles cartoons it doesn't really matter but it was a really funny show like I was surprised how much I liked I was laughing out loud cool I've seen like I said I've seen a couple clips I've seen a couple clips too because it shows you the first time they ever eat pizza nice no not one thing has ever shown that and when it doesn't it's it's amazing it's so good anyway yes that's okay um video games exist yeah but for that can we all talk about Liam's haircut for a second so the last haircut I got was the worst haircut I've ever had in my life it's the worst haircut I've ever seen it was it was horrible it was like Alfie

bowl cut I knew it was bad when I looked away and Pat whispered that I looked pretty it was like I was a whisper it was what's his it's let's pretend it was a whisper the archer from bleach is what you had terrible terrible terrible terrible haircut yeah I hated it and now you've got no I don't know what you guys want to say you didn't prepare for this you look good normal white thank you you know it's it's you're all too bad you lost your Jesus look you've got a little Dennis the menace thing yeah like it it's no no do I you lost your long flowing to be fair you look like that old picture of you with the Star Wars shirt a little bit yeah I say take a few inches off and you want a big stream but whatever

you guys didn't notice my haircut though fuck you it's hard to notice no it's just more if you cut your hair that short yeah I thought it was more green I put the purple in oh I thought it was more green no I think it is more green too okay well I noticed the more green yay thank you if you cut off all your dreads I'm pretty sure I'd notice sure that's the level of dramatic hair change and that's what we all have to make a blood pack that if he does we will say nothing yeah just pretend it never happens just fire him we can hire another guy with strength shave those sideburns damn it you know what I don't think we damn it willy there's like no black people in the game industry just hire Billy and throw a wig

on a day yeah just put them in black face yeah pretty much no hair anymore I did a thing this week just really really brief okay cuz we're like an hour okay yeah we can do what we want I ordered FF 10 for Vita off Amazon because it was on sale right showed up the next day yeah holy shit I was on crime you are the best so nuts my ex Amazon was her favorite game Final Fantasy 10 was her favorite game and I have seen every part of FF 10 except for the like second and third and fourth hour of the game I know everything weird and I've never played the game myself cuz those hours suck but I never knew about the time skip thing yeah because I missed that hour every time crux of the game story every time all five

playthroughs that I watched I missed that hour and I never bothered to ask cuz I was like I'll play it one day crux of the entire game spot and now I know if he missed that and he saw Titus asking questions like what is this crazy feeling like what if I he could have amnesia from another dimension has changed the game and want to play through it yeah and I'm like yeah I'm enjoying it it's really fun so I just got up to a bit where you get a chopper ball and I'm like yeah it's fun good game good game it is amazing combat system yes the combat is just really fun and snappy and I don't know nothing but I really like Jax Jax like fucking Jax the worst character in the game he's great no he's great did you know the Jax is voiced by the character

by the voice actor who did Odie the dog on the Garfield TV show oh did you know that Waka is played by Bender no Jake the dog Bender no because when you go and play FF10 now it's fucking Jake the dog no it's Bender it's still Bender but when it came out Waka is the fucking best by now it's meanwhile Marcus Phoenix is like fuck you guys Marcus who yeah so how do you guys feel about the fact that the entirety of fucking Fire Emblem is now playable in Smash Brothers I think that's the longest news delay we've ever done when someone's brought it up and it's just been that fucking trailer where Crom's like Captain Falcon literally beats him out of Smash Brothers. He's only a final smash. Like it's great and everything but I kind of still wish we got Crom regularly in there but I appreciate

all these of these robots of female robots of Fire Emblem characters because they haven't been represented. I asked early on like is Lucina gonna be there? I told you I said it'd be a Marth clone or something and boom you got a Marth clone Lucina. I also I like there's like I saw one piece of concept art one time a long time ago from this awesome guy that made like a spell user in the modern day that had a book in his hands yeah and I love that look of like a mage no no the the the fucking right the spells are good but I need to hit their heart I can't keep using this shit and you know the book's gonna hit you for like one percent I really like that they have both genders of Robin because I always double work but I always

thought the girl I know I I always thought the girl Robin looked better but I had to play as the guy in order to get the girls in Fire Emblem that was the issue um and Captain Falcon is Captain Falcon so beating Crom out of the way so Captain Falcon is back so Captain Falcon looks great confirmed to be to be the coolest strongest guy to ever like I'm watching this trailer and it's like they took the anime version his canon the one that blew up the universe yeah but but but why not throw in the canon of the one that murdered all of the Pikmin yeah because why not it's catching swords he doesn't whatever you see Zachary's tweet oh Captain Falcon you're so cool when will you get a game of your own there's a meverse yeah I'll smash his game now I'm sorry but he's the main

character put him on the cover also he can barely speak could you imagine the limited edition was a white cover with a gold lithograph Captain Falcon with a thumbs up just that show me your moves oh I want to make a sleeve for my game now how about the fact that like uh Rayman is a trophy is a trophy yeah I know I that was the freakiest thing ever that came out where he said he had his team contact Ubisoft to get some art or whatever for a Rayman trophy and Ubisoft made a new 3d model of Rayman and said we made this for you they made the trophy but there's no Rayman Nintendo connection like I mean he was on the Game Boy Color and Rayman 2 which was a really good part no no what I mean is I like legends on the Wii U no he's just like I like Rayman no I just mean like the connection I

know I have lots of it's not as intimate solid uh Metal Gear games on Nintendo system so I get it but yeah no it's definitely not as intimate no it's just straight up hey Rayman's cool also and I have the same just to forget but yeah he's not a character in the game I don't get why he'd be a trophy also theme of love was in was in brawl for all the best yeah but that's because they were trying to push them out but on another console I know you know so they're like whatever fucking go for it but this is a bit more about like video game yeah and all of the Mega Man yeah all of the Mega Man Mega Man are gonna be trophies as well hey speaking of theme of songs if if fucking Gierkinga's theme isn't the final destination all theme

Matt does have a nice me that reminds me um Kamiya of course as as usually bans everybody that asks some questions on his twitter yeah because if you don't do the tweet tweet pick uh read history thing or whatever he's like fuck you you didn't read and anyone that asks how does he possibly remember every question he's ever been asked he does he does that blows me away and not only that but he links to the link to the link to the link it's annoying to go back but it's because fuck you it's annoying to ask you this right uh but like so much and so like yeah uh he uh every time you ask him about Jojo he goes I don't fucking know I don't care shut up your mom you know but someone asked him what's your favorite stance on an answer and he's like star platinum

he just posted a screenshot of like the the the platinum logo you see he said he wrote star platinum because of course and it's like the platinum logo is no fucking p and a star yeah anyway um yeah that's that's a lot of news I really wish they dropped that bomb on stage at ego yeah absolutely what can I say total missed opportunity you can still have your live video for the other countries no problem also as pointless they were their old views going to walk up to the stage and deliver the news but he tripped uh atlas and evo came out and said like the most confusing statement ever about ultimex just more dlc saying hey we have one dlc character announced with more news to come and no one can figure out and they won't clarify whether or not that means

more dlc characters are coming for ultimex which is what it means that's what it means I hope it's not piecemeal I hope it's in chunks but it's gonna be piecemeal don't do that don't do that that's how you ruin the first part I know I know but they love doing that that means we're gonna get a third persona for god just give me I'll just buy more classes I don't care I just fucking don't do that no you know what it's gonna be they're gonna come out they're gonna say it's gonna be the main characters from the first four smt games and you're gonna buy them for ten dollars each and here's ride oh as a bonus character and I will buy yes I will buy it exactly I don't care you give me ride oh kusanoha a fucking fighting game okay fifty dollars I don't care yes that's a bad precedent this is like

well we can really charge for this one wow these guys are suckers persona for ultimex 49 99 ride oh kusanoha dlc 54 99 in Canada I guess just at least at least like like bundle it up later you know what I mean no there's no good solution don't fucking do this no good solution no there's no good solution do it in Japanese companies do it in chunks like capcom no no hey did you appreciate how shuma goreath made it like to fucking top eight yesterday yeah well guess what go get shuma no fuck you that's a different thing it will make yeah but they are listening to you they are doing it in chunks but they believe that a chunk is a character yeah well capcom's got it down with with street fighter especially yeah they do it's just chunk chunk chunk no but the fact

that like those characters were never actually put on a disc no for sure with marvel they tripped and slammed their face into the edge of the agreement well we just got to wait for persona for ultimex media ultimate hold two ultimus slam ultimum system fantastic for arena subsistona yeah well you're gonna buy the characters yeah you're gonna buy you're gonna buy the first part it's crytech on there crytech's on there but i wanted to talk about the dude that embarrassed himself speaking of tripping on your dick embarrassed himself in front of lab zero yeah did you catch that yeah it was still it was still hey i'm getting this weird message what's up with that you pirated the fucking game well they were a lot nicer about it than that yeah he was like

i'm gonna buy it for reals they're like uh sure dude well whenever you get the chance you'll probably like it you know he's like hey they were awesome they were so nice about it i think because what what are you gonna be a dick no exactly no they were super nice we know for a fact that lab zero is very nice they're very i'm glad you like our game they're also pirated could you please also pay for it yeah if you don't mind if it wouldn't inconvenience and the guy was like no i'm trying before i buy yeah yeah yeah something like at the very least the dude seemed to have the shame to reply yeah i tried before i bought but i i already bought it on ps4 like the real dirt i think he said ps4 though that's the thing the thing is not out for you before the announcement came out

the real skull bag would have just cut and run and be like whoops yeah speaking of musical girls on core ps4 vita ps4 vita confirmed why not on expo yeah soon it'll come after there's like this many people can only know like submission's not like that you don't just do it you know and i assume ps4 and and vita like they're easier oh yeah there's there's a there's a much easier path and then once that the ones they get and you can focus on the xbox exactly yeah uh yeah i know i'm looking for a tech so crydex just on fire like all like and not in like the mba jam sense of making a video it's just that's not that's not the news i got which is which news is that i got the news that's just like everyone at cry tech everyone wants to make a new time well sorry sorry yes you exercise everyone

but i would like to put quotes around okay so cry tech so here's cry tech uk which is free radical but he did he did say everyone dash and i mean everyone so the one man's account in the west so the scenario here is leaning out of a window yelling man we love time splitters as they jump to safety from this burning inferno yeah that is fucking cry tech what's happening there no one's got the design the walk designer on the home front just walked out today because no one got paid because they're not paying their this is what happens when you don't pay your employees yes they're enough fair enough like it makes you wonder what would have happened if they were working on time splitters and so put into the context of time splitters is like yeah i bet everyone wants to

work on time splitters i don't think that company's going to exist next year they're gonna next they're gonna they're gonna barely ship home front too yeah and then in their next little meeting they're gonna be like all right the game you guys always wanted to do the sequel you've been waiting for haze too yeah it honestly it's supposed to be connected that really stings it looks like they used the home front money to pad out the rest of the salary to everyone which is why it went from we're getting half our paychecks wait we were not getting our paychecks on time two we're not getting our paychecks at all what home front money yeah well the money that the money that they paid to buy the license yeah they don't have any of the money that was made off of the original didn't so hurt

hey what's up oh it'll be fine maybe but i'm pretty sure they gotta do is just hire like the janitor slash programmer over a naughty dog yeah and they'll come over and start working on those projects too and then it's all good but i'm sure i'm sure their fantasy book moba will save them and warface warface is doing real good warface is that by them that's absolutely by them oh my god yeah and that and then social media warface thing that's in russia isn't doing well for them either warface sounds like a fucking mallard that was like public but that's why it isn't your voice face so that's why i wanted to bring up correct because i felt like we were gonna have the the time splitter news and it's like all news about home front and all news about time splitters has to

be couched within the context of this company is not going to exist next year well unless they take drastic changes now individual studios might exactly might still continue but like cri-tech in general like maybe not no way there's well you know what i have no faith in their if they do shut down they should do it with class and style like never soft yeah burn that giant effigy so it was eyeball that is your logo impaled my inner kid was crying that replace it with a giant call of duty logo that's what they didn't do was drop the big cod i thought it was really funny that i read about that news and then later that day i wound up buying that game i showed you tony hawk 2x yeah the xbox for the xbox like original yeah which i didn't even know existed

i didn't know there was a xbox port of tony hawk 2 that and the pc version definitive yeah i've been pced never saw unfortunately those are the definitive ones yeah god if those things and and i bet you there's a crazy mod scene like out there for the for the pc one too like i haven't even looked but i'm just i want to gravity um but you can just cheat for that you're right you're totally right i forgot about cheat codes exactly or just use the jango jet boost in uh start small why not yeah fuck how did how did little you think of when you fully saw darth mall in one of the tony hawk games i was like with your star wars episode one i was like boy that's dumb because he's a dumb character oh really but then i was like jango fets in four that's awesome he was

uh green can't do that you can't and uh speaking of the comic things again um i don't know if maybe you might have caught some of this mat but uh you hear about bat girl uh they redesigned like they're just oh doing a whole different storm the shit store with the shit storm though they're rebooting uh bat girl how do you reboot why are you but it's not but didn't she get rebooted in the disastrous event known as the new 52 but it's not a reboot because they're continuing with the same character story and events that occurred but they're just straight up doing as what the article on cnet said they're putting a bird on it

let's see put a bird on it scroll down that fucking page so here's bat girl taking a selfie okay in a like a bathroom thing that's fine and the description is bat girl has really been put through the ringer in recent years after being attacked and paralyzed by the joker her brother turning out to be a serial murderer and the trauma of her family breaking apart and the series gruesome villains that she has to contend with uh we she deserved a break from all that so just prior to the start of our story she's pushed to the breaking point da da da da she wants the opportunity to have some fun and live the young life of a single girl in the city so she packs up and moves to Burnside the cool trendy borough of Gotham to focus on grad school

and what so they're just abandoning the character she's in the bat girl she's in the bat girl costume but she's now a hipster she's oh my god oh i see it she's wearing dog martin the cowl is shaped like hipster glasses she's she's got that going on as well and the idea is that she's hipster bat girl now having young single adventures a lot of people really love it though uh i bet they're hipsters i've seen i don't know but a lot of people really love the way it's going to so i i've seen nothing but backlash personally i think the tons and tons of fan art uh no okay now i understand now i understand what he means by that okay now i see how the design of the character itself you could see in real time which one of us is an old man yeah sure no

i don't have a problem with the with the design of the the her itself i would say if she had some pants and just get rid of the cape at that point it'd look cooler but i like why not why not just create a new character yeah hey hey this is batman co we don't do that so and i'm mad gail simon characters have to live for 180 years gail simon has been has been doing the writing for up until this point and has been telling like a really dark story why not create just a new background like yeah i i don't know now let's get out of the wheelchair because they just skimmed over that part i don't know and but that's but that's what i'm about to get into is that i can't get on this and pretend like oh my god i'm outraged i've been reading back girl all these years i don't

know what do they do what you like i can't do that because it's like no it's not like we have our bad but i didn't expect things but i'm just like the wheelchair i'm pretty sure was fixed when she took the superman pill for injustice yeah yeah that's probably it um or cooler character than back girl watch him be right oh my god if that was canon fuck that uh yeah no so i like you can't it's all canon on infinite earths you can't get this outrage for a thing that you haven't read in whatever reason you think oh absolutely you can but but i still project on what if they did it with some one eye i'm just let's see oranges an extra dollar fuck that i don't know but like i'm just like amazing the idea of like yeah let's let's just continue not reboot but like just continue the same

character just give her a thought to do this crazy thing with no she will not be depressed and angry anymore about the bad past and she will just be a like hipster trend they should have just done that to spider-man after that clone shit they might have spider-man moves to like i stopped reading spider-man after that yeah he's already in hamster town and he was telling me how like spider-man was like depressed for like 20 years like after that clone thing no everyone was oh it was pretty bad it's pretty dire it's pretty bad i saw a fan told me about like this i was like well really is that they're bringing spider-man 2099 back in his own series into the past into the past he just flies into a dimension and just shows up and i'm a yellow hera yellow and everyone's like okay who

the fuck are you guys got from the future and everyone's like okay does he do the spidey web bowling ball no but i love my yellow hera he's the dickest spider-man of all time 2099 was something that i really didn't like when it happened but does this spot bring him back from 2099 i do not believe that character is currently among us you know the marvel spider-man villain where he put spots yeah he's a fucking loony toons probably i know maybe he'll team up with silhouette have you seen the fan art of silhouette oh my god i don't think fan art of sabotage no but that sucks because i gave a detailed description of sabotage and i don't remember you trying to do so much better we're trying to figure out three i got my first comic in print did you no yeah sabotage rules

just a guy in a blue jumpsuit with a red hockey mask is just a bad kasey jones ripoff yeah i'm saying something a bad kasey jones one of my finest creations and kasey jones is just a jason ripoff yeah exactly how would you speak how would you guys have felt about a bio shock vita game that was a final fantasy tactics ripoff really good so i would have felt super into that i was close to bringing this up last week because yeah i saw that i was like because that is someone actually thinking about okay we're putting this on a handheld why don't we not make it something that controls badly on it even simpler than that levin was just like i fucking love tactics yeah well like you know a lot of people don't realize this but

ken levin has been like i want to make this game for a while and the deals have just been not working out it didn't work out and really sucks and he's wanted and he said like the publishers that they approached him so from never when they spoke to toucan sony yeah and they said like they were way more on board with this back in 2k 11 oh yeah of course and now that's when the vita launched and back when bio shock infinite was like in the type cycle exactly yeah now it's and it's like in doubt i that being said i think it has more to do with the vitae's performance in the west than bio shocks oh yes not at all oh yeah yeah it's it's such a shame because that sounds really fun idea for it's been really fun i don't need more tactics and it took place in uh prefall rapture

yeah of course it's just sick like use the grid to like plan out your big daddy would it be a grid don't have to have a grid i prefer like valkyria chronicles or future tactics for each other circle i'm not a big fan i can't believe you just fucking brought up future tactics that's what i mean that's good but my brain automatically goes to the grid you were the only one who would know that because man i've seen that many bartenders they didn't say any oh no just saying that's an option it's an option because they didn't say strategy rpg they say tactics oh well that is still tactics yeah it's like uh what was the first one besides the point it was i was just putting the left it was i was phantom brave that used phantom right more or less and it's just

just i was just like i prefer the grid i prefer the grid it's such a shame i really would love that so i can see why they'd have trouble getting that funded because that doesn't sound like what you know paul marketing wants to hear yeah instead it's like the rpg the perfect game for the vita yeah you know like they made kills on mercenary work by some miracle yeah but fuck if that doesn't sound more appealing than a regular bioshop than a regular bioshop yeah the only way you'd see that is if another bioshop game is coming out yeah and you might see that and it was pushed alongside it or something yeah definitely it's the kind of franchise that would benefit from yeah it has room to to expand sure and meanwhile fucking persona is just like yo what genre have we not touched

we're gonna do it sport and go you know that shit sports first shooter persona for football a sport first first sport ball all night persona street yeah sports friends atlas big i'm glad you entered the same place on that nice nice you joked but like uh uh i'd be awesome jojo style like basketball games with stands would be fucking awesome oh god that's just muddy that's just caramel coming out of our mouths it's so good you made fun of me for years because i would just go like persona but now that you know enough about it to know that it does fit into every genre i could yeah the fucking the cyborg baseball game base wars base wars right this is a great idea yeah that's shit back sega soccer slam is pretty good sega soccer slam is racist but great slam the

song as any good gas fantastic point one is it racist yes point two plus five points on the right then i guess exactly wacky sports yeah it's fine yeah point one busters revenge best game ever made see it's that piece of shit oh god if it's funny it's great wasn't funny then but it made it hilarious now made a great episode of a vg yeah that's right you know i'm glad so it's all worth it it made also a great level boss in the a vg and now you're totally not sure no fuck that piece of shit those stuff is so bad you guys fucking catch no the news about the nostromo pre-order mission oh fuck yeah quite a shit story not that this is disgusting okay hey uh before you continue what was your first impression of that when you heard slash saw it

will it like like in a sentence they're getting the voice actors of the they're getting the actors to play themselves not all of them because one of them is dead but as much as they could but they're getting the alive actors to play themselves so your first impression was positive matt height my first you you i looked at it i was like fucking awesome i already have a pre-order i was like fuck this is the grossest like pre-order i was also like that i pre-ordered it yeah sure this has made me not want to play the game ever it's still a good game but it sounds like a great aliens experience it's the type of game that i don't want one alien survive you're fucked in the city situation but the entire game is like that the game that they're making is like that and

this pre-order mission is that so what i know but what's the problem the problem is that people were really pissed off that this is a pre-order exclusive dammit i want this game so much dammit dammit you know i get what you say like no that's not the problem to me the problem isn't people that want it so much because those people there's no problem of course the problem is that i'm on the fence about the game yeah of course so this tips me off the fence the content will be available after like no that's not the point the point is this pre-order shit is gone too far it's gross i hate it it's it says the guy who will buy any character if you don't know i'm aware i'm ashamed of that well then why no i i know i definitely i at least feel ashamed it's just like the persona

characters i don't like when things are not part of the full package it fuck yeah no definitely going forward into the future but i am still that juicy but i'm still i but like that i'm still so hype about the existence of what i just described that i'm i'm happy i'm not gonna you know what i mean like that's not that is overshadowing it's working paul marketing's job has worked it bothers me when there's because i fucking love alien it bothers me when there's a difference also like pre-order bonus at every retailer because that is the the worst that's the worst yeah because you can't possibly get this is the second tier of like a little big planet came out i put in the effort to go to each store and get the code just by asking and i think there was a

recent article two about how game spots gonna be getting involved game stop game stop rather is getting involved and i'm still in the development process yeah it's to lock gameplay stuff away earlier and that's that frames my disgust here because it's not framed in the specific scenario so much as like i'm indifferent to alien isolation sure so in this i'm just like oh that's gross but now this grossness is framed as like tier two oh you were you're excited for it no i'm totally indifferent i wasn't i was negative when it was first revealed because but then when i saw yeah more and more stuff and i was like okay this does actually seem like a good survival horny amnesia thing and because everyone was still got colonial marines on the brain yeah

yeah i'm not our reactions are recorded on previous episodes of the reveal and we went why the fuck would ripply's daughter meet a xeno more i was always and then later no yeah you you were always like i think it's and i turned the page when i saw what they were doing and i'm like oh my god you're delivering the game i wanted like i see this in the context of of like pre-orders getting way out of hand like we never talked about it i don't do we talk about the ubisoft pre-order fucking scam that they're running for ac unity where you you pre-order it you get in you get pre-order bonus is strong based on like a roulette wheel i don't know this news okay so so pre-order bonus for unity is you can get extra stuff if you take your code and put it into this

drawing that they're gonna have every week that will get you extra little trinkets and prizes and it's basically like this desperate like pre-order it but also keep your pre-order please and it's it's just it's smart but it's also every week up to the release there's there'll be a trinket like we're gonna give out three fucking whatever's three satchels for the end of the day you need to have the game use them it was a tomb raider that had the different levels of pre-ordering the earlier on you pre-order was it yeah i don't know about the more you get drinking guard three had it called duty black ops two had it i i remember see me at at eb the chicken ad no the thing hanging from the ceiling yeah where it was like it was like pre-ordering at this stage

gets you this you might be right i'm familiar with it yeah i think the the grossest one i can remember is dragon age two where they kept when there was a dragon age two pre-order thing like the collector's edition that tons and tons and tons of shit and it was called the signatures series and it was really really like good like as far as collectors editions go it was really good yeah and people kept asking when is this fucking thing going to be available on steam this is just wait we're gonna have it up on steam and the this was a limited timed thing and the day after it was no longer available the game up went on sale for on steam i have news for you pat you see here's the thing that stuff is not going to get any better it's only going to get worse because digital is

becoming super viable you're right and brick and mortar will never go away but they're going to god damn fight tooth and nail as hard as they can to keep everybody then i'm going to get more and more grossed out by it yeah and that's why now this has made me like grossed out by alien isolation i mean you're right it's far from fucking okay but just brace yourselves you know i'm racing my sentiment on pre-ordered bonuses has always been like actually the opposite of what matt said we're like i hate when a publisher is like pre-order and get white jacket for aiden pierce that's fucking bullshit give me like something of substance no i want it to be the most useless thing these asthan street missions that are fucking garbage it's like i don't want to play that like

give me something i don't want to play yes i want the pre-order things to be garbage i want them to be trash so that they have no value i disagree with that but don't make it game stuff for me i want a pre-order to be a metal case and that's that's clearly going away they're the it really seems to me that they're doing that less and less and less okay well but like even if it's not the metal case but like the ost no like anything i mean like physical physical i also like like books but like that to me that's fine because you're it's something i want but it's not game you know what i mean it's not content that i'm gonna play that that's where i want it separated on that level sure for i don't want it to be completely worth exactly but i would ask for me it's just

like i'm gonna play the game anyway so i want it to be the best content to convene if it's worthless and why would it be an incentive right i don't care exactly uh so here's here's the two ways i think are actually doing this correctly atlas which does first run not pre-order but their shit is just rare so it ends up being the same thing and something like destiny exact same not when they don't play ball with the ultimax case yeah no when they don't play ball with the ultimax and people in Quebec have to fight but it means that later on after not getting a french version of the uh it's gonna be like yeah or something like destiny or it's like beta that's what you get you get a beta access for me it's like this aliens thing like you know they could have just held it back and waited seven months

and announced it and said look a new campaign to tack on to it is great dlc you know what they everyone would have been like yeah that's a great extra campaign that's that's what good dlc is you know what they could have done they could have included it in the game no no exactly but i'm just saying like evidently that wasn't what they were going to do yeah i know no matter how you look at it it was from from day one it was on the design sheet of this is going to be dlc yeah because when the game is designed now yes i'm aware they don't look at it and say cut that out for dlc they look at it and say we need to we need to design dlc while we're designing the game while we're designing the game yeah this was never going to be a day of missing length thing which

had the game launch and then just sell this dlc for like an optimal price if it's if it's lengthy well that's what i'm saying like it's like an hour like charge five ten dollars what if what if the missing link would have been the pre-order bonus for dsx it's from revolution are you saying to me i'm saying i'm saying specifically there were no other there were no other pre-order bonuses because i know there were for that game and it was just the missing link and instead of being released a year and a half later or a year later or whatever it was just the pre-order bonus that would have been garbage but like for me it's like i'd rather that content be there that why you rather somebody who who waits for the review get kneecapped with the worst game what do you talk

or how about or how about uh dude you can read reviews on day one how about you can't pre-order how about sleeping dogs you can just go buy it in a store and they'll give you the code on the spot do you remember how store guys are not so anal that they won't just give you the code do you remember how sleeping dogs was handled where they just came out with tons of dlc after the fact and it was all like uh it was like how many pieces like almost 20 times you know it was it was endless it kept going and it was one of those things were like none of it was essential to your game no but it was all just extra fun to kind of keep you around because that's tasty in the same way you're not powerful dlc you just keep doing it post release you keep it alive yeah that's fine

that's awesome and like just return the game you can't return it no just don't open it like i ordered i ordered a game from amazon and then it shows up on my doorstep and it's bad so i say okay i want to return it and i'm done that's that's it you can do that yeah it's not open so i just return it so it's free to preorder like it's not like i'm wasting money it's not free to preorder there's opportunity cost that's the whole that's not what opportunity cost means that's absolutely opportunity cost has multiple meanings that's besides the point it's free to preorder no it's not it costs money you pay the money amazon is literally free they bill you the day it comes out it's literally amazon it's free to preorder everything else is not it's five bucks it out out of the

cost of the game like dude it's fucking nothing again ultimately and you can cancel on day one you can literally i've done this before i've went to the store the days i went after a game has come out and canceled my preorder like it's what you're not losing anything what's Liam Liam what's your favorite example of this and then of what sorry of sorry of like a solid handle on a preorder bonus that doesn't feel like it like it bothers you none okay there should i have one there should be none i think like physical stuff only cds uh my do you have like do you really bonus well because i'm like because i'm just i'm just kind of wondering like do you have a point where you'd be like okay come on really that's too much like how far would it oh something that would bother me yeah oh something

that would bother me like if nothing is like necessarily like oh that's a perfect example then what's like you want it to be worthwhile right so how how worthwhile does it have to be for you to think it's gross uh for it to be gross as if like it's obviously cut out of the main campaign or something like that like it's really like cut content sliced out of the pie that is the game okay extra design like um that annoys me tech attack tournament two uh had a handful of characters and 150 bikinis unavailable to you if you didn't preorder the something like that uh is that like how was that handled again wasn't they came they eventually came out later but you just got a you just got up early if you it was a while later and you couldn't you couldn't that was kind of

that was kind of bullshit because you're you get a chess set but you're missing your missing pieces until a time exactly yeah that one's bullshit okay where it's like they cut content out of the main i agree it was for like when you pre-ordered uh dmc you got virgil's mission free which came out a year late or seven months later i also got it 17 dollars all and it was it was but regardless there was it was the same difference just they ship it later as opposed to aliens are shipping it in is it dang dating yeah i believe it oh there you go exactly it's fair enough you know to be fair you should you should couch my statements in the context of dlc should go away forever yeah all of it i i don't know that's that's extremely i disagree with that i disagree because the

character is great fighting game character dlc should never happen no they should come out with new versions they should come out with expansion packs well i used to play pc games in the 90s but you remember expansion well it's not the 90s let let it be said that good dlc where hey they ship a full game and then six months later they have a new thing that they've been working on and they're like look we just built this new mission with a new character that's good dlc that stuff that should stick around look we have all these optional costumes for your fighting game mother skullgirls right skullgirls the same copy that that you bought is now on core and has all that shit it is that's not dlc that's not that's support that's just like same thing for like killer

angsting season two it's still we're talking no but we're talking but it is content that you're you are locked into us the semantics of it back in the old days on the pc particularly it used to be called support when maps would come out for free and when content and patches would come out for free it was called supporting the game okay now that happens but only when it's paid for it and it's all planned for up front and half the time it's discussed like we're really taught specifically talking paid stuff and what's too gross and what's what's kosher okay because free stuff is always okay free stuff is always great support is fantastic and it's the best making a complete game like platinum does and getting on your new game faster also fantastic pretty much everything in between

gross i didn't like the character how did you feel about brood wars brood wars brood wars awesome okay what if brood wars did not have war brood brood war did not have the campaign did not have the campaign and it was just the new units and uh it was for multiplayer yeah yeah would you be okay with paying money for that uh yeah how much money 15 bucks 15 how much was it when it came out with the campaigns oh it was uh it was uh it was uh 30 bucks it was either 30 or 40 and i think it was 30 i feel like it was i feel like it was 34 i feel like it was i remember frozen throne for work after it was 40 definitely i don't know but uh brood war i don't remember but yeah let's say it's either way like i feel like you

know like the sam and blade wolf missions are an example of good dlc sure you know i think there's a place for good dlc i think there is what i'm getting i think that 95 percent of it is garbage so i'd rather junk the whole and i agree with you on that pdlc yeah right yeah okay yeah there's no pdlc dlc means paid it does not inherently mean paid yes it does in the context of the industry dlc only came about as the start of uh the 360 in terms of paid ecosystem well kind of the connotation there is a connotation there is objectively a difference between paid dlc and free dlc but like because it used to take dlc is the only one that matters because he just grabs the point to the discussion and there's nothing to talk about it's just free dlc it's just great

you know fair enough all right all those counter strike maps and day to feet maps and yeah no i don't think it all needs to be junked i think there's a place there's not all need to be jumped at all but like but i have no need for a white jacket for aid you know if a game i really like uh is like a studio is putting it out and they're kind of like we spent a lot more hours making a thing and they need to get paid for it and you're giving them money for that i don't have a problem with charge more for the game it's unfortunate at all in there and then i'll decide if your game is worth 80 dollars well a publisher is not going to take that risk it's stupid i mean i mean now i know what you're because you're describing bayonetta right yeah and i am and

that was awesome i'm not going to say that wasn't awesome that was great that they just made the dlc and just threw it in there anyway but again that happens very rare i feel like there's a zone that is you know we gotta move on i agree with you my zone is just way smaller fair enough fair enough i i think destiny is doing it fine i think the season pass for the expansions season passes is weird but it doesn't particularly offend season passes are the gross because you were talking like consumers getting kneecapped season passes are the epitome of consumers getting kneecapped where you're literally buying the question mark box yeah like you can't even return the product but that you bought the question mark box that one either by

this game or what's in this box that one feels less gross because the context of most of the early season passes was matte packs for shooters it was you know exactly in the case of like ac3 it was like you knew it was going to be liberty or whatever came came Washington rather yeah all right but i think said water brothers deserves extra scorn for cancelling the we you batman pass no it made it the better version yeah season passes that version of aliens come on colonial marines is the we you version you're right you're totally right you know that's the one piece of dlc i can't stand for and it's the non dlc it's the like season pass where it's the mystery box because with the game you can pre-order it for free and you can return it and with the

season pass you're fucked and i bought the season pass for the last of us because i was so hyped for it and it was the last one i will ever buy because i was sorely disappointed because i was expecting more single player content and they announced we're only doing one but stay two they said that they were only doing one piece of single player i had already bought it oh well don't do that but but that's what i'm saying you have something against the consumers getting kneecapped yet you're okay with season stay two stay two i'm okay with arkham for ever i'm okay with good season pass in which the season pass will allow you to access bug fixes and the ability to complete the game well a good season passes if you buy mortal comment nine they're like your season pass gives

you all the dlc characters or injustice the exactly you know you're getting character in a fighting game or something like that where it's a very rigid structure yeah but that's that's the times that it doesn't bother me but also like that or stuff like that's the words like it's going to be five maps and this and this zone but also fuck you you gotta get an online pass if you pick up the game on my second hand thank god those things are dying so yeah before you you know don't forget that yeah you know what everything that we talked about the worst of all of them was the online pass and that one's gone uh yes yes definitely we can all agree on except for some beta games um batling like scej stuck on that weird but whatever welcome uh something else we can

all agree on is hey we're all excited for where that new zelda's going right the ideas and concepts and shots just a little warriors yeah uh miyamoto darksiders three yeah which which one is it's maybe it's an article actually from the week from last we just didn't get to but it was interesting just in a follow-up interview miyamoto clarified that uh he's like he doesn't like the word open worlds and he would not have used it except it best describes what they're trying to accomplish term closely exactly but he but he wouldn't want to say because it puts too much of a rigid idea of what that means i suppose in your head and it sounds like in hindsight maybe they're not shaking up the formula as much as you think they are i still think they say that it didn't say that

directly you didn't say i'm kind of inferring it but because it's it's like again it just doesn't want to be compared to 187 rider which isn't an open world game at all really no it was heavy too level base wow that just proves the whole point isn't it zelda confirmed for crime time that it i was gonna say that like i don't think miyamoto likes anything nintendo being said it's a this you know what i mean like oh this is open world game right oh no not not exactly no that's a dirty western that's a dirty western term so your watchdogs is considered an open game but it's not actually open at all really so your new car racer mario car i wouldn't exactly call it a car racer yeah i don't know like it's it's hard to get what he means by that but like yeah no i also

miyamoto is a guy that's like sad mission had different heads and you should wear her different heads and that actually meant different visors yeah so you don't know what he means at all also if he's speaking like objectively and he's like really into it which he might not be he might be saying like no fuck that like because open world games are the same thing every time go to point get side mission go to point and eventually you do a main mission at some point and also and it's just like look we drew a map and we put in context the only half of zelda games are open world games the only open world by recent death there's actually and the original zelda like when i think of open world it's literally there's nothing yeah you have no anything like onto the

past some link between worlds have like open world sections where it's like you can do these dungeons in a row yeah yeah so so the term means that there is a large world in which players can do numerous things daily i think it's an open world in the traditional legends daily players would play one dungeon at all no wonder he doesn't want it to be called that in the traditionals legend as i'll the series the player would play one dungeon at a time for example if there's eight dungeons in the fourth some players may think i'm already halfway through the game i still have while others may think i have half the game to play we're trying to gradually break down the mechanism and like have you not feel that way yeah you know one dungeon confirmed um yeah it's the

world you'll never know you're halfway through the world well right off the bat the rental weapon system in um link between worlds and they've constantly said like we're really looking at stuff like that but certainly yes it is okay yeah heavily flawed but uh but definitely is like trying to say you can go in any direction and do any dungeon you want to do it falls on its face though i find i respect the effort i i and i really had fun with the game so i wait so like maybe you should clarify because the problem is you get the problem is you get to a dungeon and none of the dungeons necessitate other tools they only require you can walk into a dungeon with one tool and you'll be fine yeah yes and and also like the difficulty was piss easy i

died once in the game so i never suffered the consequences yeah of the loosing weapon well nintendo didn't know you were but at the same time i know i know i know i know but i'm just saying there like it is a bit flawed in the dungeon but you never have the second thing's just a personal you never had to break out that ocarina of time giant hammer until like when you leave that the fire dungeon and then the end of the game has another one of those buttons you need to hit like you generally you get the weapon you use it in the dungeon but you know i prefer finding them in the yeah and and leem you're basically you're trading you're trading off freedom for puzzle complexity and for somebody like me who doesn't give a shit about all the puzzles

that was a happy trade no sure but for me i get to the windmill and i see the things on the ground i'm like oh i need to go get the win so i go back get the win thing and i go back and then i ace the dungeon because it's it's easy and then i'm out no i mean i love the game that i love the game but i felt like that was a flaw i'd rather fight more uh what what why does this ring oh right sequel i'm like why does all of this discussion sound so recent to me it's because yeah because no it's true when you get that item in in the in the the dungeon in the pick up the big thing what the fuck's in here like yeah yeah that that is fun um never more has that has that meme image of me moto saying you guys want me to do this yeah and then we did that you guys you guys don't know what

you want it is always true when it comes to zelda just me a moto let anuma make the zelda game and then it'll be good or bad i'm sure he's letting him that's what he's been doing that's what zillion i don't get the feeling that like he's lording over anuma like i don't know i don't get it either i just feel like he's like 95 years old and he isn't he's like old now he's not quite that old but he's getting there he's gonna be 70 he looks like a grandpa now he's really this is what happens time goes by no fuck that he's not a new game it's called we music for you please enjoy splatoon please i probably please please please splatoon looks good it really does i enjoy did you see that one guy in the evo crowd with the splatoon hat oh no i didn't that's that's a poll i know it um

wasn't even watching smash but in defectors collusion i guess you know what let's let's uh cut it a bit early because of the spoiler cast so um let's do uh a word from our sponsors and we'll be back okay gentlemen when i say the words we're not gentlemen okay well we already have me maybe Liam is godless even fuckers okay okay wait what when i say the words loot crate yeah loot crate what do you think of do you not think of um i think of pirates there's definitely some sort of square thing and i think of a i think of a box made out of wood that has things and yeah and i put stuff in a box and i get the image of like pirates yeah sneaking in to a dock yeah at night with a crowbar and breaking in hey hey so many skulls all about loot crates right that's a crowbars

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got to use the pages you went to a bookstore i went to one it was four stories high i was sweating by the time i got to the section i wanted to and they didn't even have the book that seems inconvenient it was it's you almost didn't even have it to carry it out right well it weighs like 100 grams you walk out of jail going home and that's 100 grams that's bad you're using up energy from food you don't have exactly you probably sat there on the way home going why did i even bother why why why was i out is there a solution to you do not know about audible my friend what is audible you don't need books because books are shit i can barely hear you audible is awesome though because audible you don't need to read a book you can listen to a book just in your ears like that

in your ears like magic the ears the ears that god gave you because that's all you need to actually believe that's true honestly would have given us you need to break if you wanted us to read books i told you guys just the other day how i checked out audible and i got myself a hundred years of solitude yeah it's true audio book did you get a book though i got i got the audio book no paper cuts there okay yeah no paper cuts at all i got out of that 14 hours later the soothing sounds well when you're usually done reading a book i see your hands are just covered in just just dripping blood a mess just passed out on the floor with a book there's a scenario for you as you are sitting there reading and bloodying yourself up that's pretty much all you're doing

correct yeah what were you doing while simultaneously listening to this audio book i went to my girlfriend's house i played video games yeah i enjoyed cleaning up the house i did all kinds of stuff while listening to the audio couldn't really do that with a bunch of razor blades in a mound can you know exactly imagine difficult yeah and imagine trying to like mock the floors while holding these razor blades stripping not all over and you're mopping up the blood as you're reading and you turn pages and more blood drop it's the worst that's not even the worst the worst is walking down the street with the book you fall down a manhole cover you're dead you're dead you're dead you're dead guess who's fault that was garth nix thank you that's right and that's why you head on down

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i'm having so much fun with letter time it should be goofy time goofy time yeah please what is that when would goofy time happen right before letter time right letter do during the ad break that that was that was goofy time goofy says just didn't hear it if you want to send letters send them to superbestfriendcast at gmail.com interesting where's that again goofy vorsch yeah it's it's super best friend cast at gmail.com i see um they're dogs they're the same thing as pluto yeah i know it's it's fucked up we were going to disney had any foresight when they thought that shit that shit's fucked up really try not to just think about it remember there's a giant dog in raccoons that had another

dog that was all on force just try to think about come head more just think about all the the horrible shit talking down goofy must do to pluto yeah when mickey's got his back dog shaming him yeah you're an idiot dog did you did you shit food dog gorsh i'm gonna eat this spaghetti i'm gonna enjoy my hammer me and donald you're gonna go out and get hookers what are you gonna do oh you're gonna smell the throne i i feel like like burning shit down right now why i feel like starting a fire oh you guys i saw you look at this email i'm like i don't want to there's an emotion on your face i can't tell if it's hunger or anger but it's it's it's it says the email he was giggling about before we started there's only bone work for burn down reddit tumblr forechan

um okay at first it seems easy but then you're like oh no i can't do that yeah yeah yeah yeah think about it think about it i'd burn down forechan because they don't appreciate the work the people that don't appreciate the workers and it's a it's a money hole it's a money sink yeah it's a complete money hole uh which is a shame because i use it all the time hmm i do appreciate the mods most of the time but not sometimes because sometimes i suck it up i know most of the time they're jackasses so i don't even appreciate them myself own work for burn own work for a burn down reddit tumblr forechan which one's more profitable no probably right because because between the twitter between the two they're both equally awful so well twitter dude want to do all

three i guess i guess i'd want to own reddit because then i had employees telling me look at this cool am a and i could read cool things about jack nicholson or someone yeah and then work for tumblr i guess because i get to see all the cool art and stuff that's fun that's fun i'll agree with liam that's pretty much it there's a flip side there because if you work for reddit you'd see a bunch of cool stuff too i'm sure but i just don't like the website very much yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna go my my my logic is i'm gonna own forechan because i'm is like this then you'll be able to be like oh he's too great and no but it's super for that no it's a money hole is it completely because they have ads running against me i mean like he's not making a killing off that if he's

making money but i'm pretty sure he was in debt like two years ago or something yeah i don't oh yeah i'm yeah i don't want to own a place that you might be pseudo responsible for the members of its of its users are you are you depends who's mad at you enough oprah yeah maybe yeah don't know i'd say i'd say uh reddit if you worked for reddit then like you might get to see some cool things same with tumblr you might you might get to like because once in a while there's like a celebrity am a or something you're gonna be like oh i don't know you're gonna burn down tumblr you're gonna burn it down there's been things like tumblr before though yeah there was zanga there was live journal there was the odd one wow it would all it would all you know it would all

move on to the next place that's the same they're all gonna move on to the next place well they they would no one remembers friendster can we burn down something awful instead something awful here isn't something awful or something awful no fucking goons oh something awful okay you don't like low tax no no one likes low tax no one it was a gift to the world watching who they both beat the shit out of us yeah but fuck ebom more than that oh yeah so no problem there that's like douchebag neighbor versus hitler you know eric bowman is a monster the enemy of your enemy is your friend so even if you don't like low tax fuck ebom yeah right you're right yeah i burned down can i burn down the internet then you'd be back at your old job yeah but i'd live

in a world with no internet oh shit i didn't think about that utopia in which everyone is happy and there are no problems and we all get to use phones and you gotta leave your house and buy stuff okay i've decided i decided to burn down the earth i see so nobody's brand yeah that's right all right tell me what's to know what are some of your favorite designs for the persona monsters the dick mara is anyone gonna say anything that wasn't that uh belphagore he sits on a toilet what's the dick jack snow mara dick monster you don't know about mara mara oh okay stall for time man i what is that jack frost is jack frost kicks ass all the frost lucifer is fucking cool all of the justice types are really low key from demikids uh satan um satan sure i i really

wait which is the big purple one is it lucifer satan uh the big purple monster this is mara oh that's a penis monster that's a penis that's a penis that is that is the that is the highest level persona of the lovers arcana giger would be proud yeah it's a dick riding a chariot there you go i'm familiar with this monster anyone who wants to see a dick riding a chariot mara persona and just type in laura persona yep that's mara persona persona all right you got it um there's other ones honestly i'm a big fan of all the unique ones Melchizedek Melchizedek Melchizedek i've always liked the design of the fairy uh sure yeah i like liens i've always leand seeded for it said uh we'll lean on she it's it's it's Celtic yeah i like the way she looks

looks good yeah there's a mission for all the ones that aren't garbage are great yeah like that's the problem yeah like so say that about any of our yeah some of them are just like a weird little monster and others are big cool guy with sword yeah pretty hard to fuck that up if you had to pick one pick one pick one pick one uh ony is really cool ony's pretty cool i know what trumpeter i'm a big fan of trumpeter i don't like trumpeter well to be fair by the way if we just picked ones that are not from persona yeah both of us picked ones that are bosses in smt alice right yeah yeah okay so yeah all the cool all the coolest personas are either the unique ones made for new characters yeah or ones from smt then i'm gonna answer for you i'm gonna say skullrider hell right i agree

howlrider howlrider i agree with that howlrider is straight up just goes right let's go right yeah you mentioned this it's exactly the same you're like oh it reminds me of that fucking monster in brazona yeah i can't fucking find the name so forget it that's what is it that's Cerberus chick with the three animal heads this is a high podcast this is people who call other fudges a monster not lamia no in the meantime no lamia is the snake girl um she was in devil survivor and i don't know devil survive in the meantime we wants to know matt uh just got around to seeing punisher warzone thought it was pretty good managed to maintain a comic book feel how did you rank it with the other two and um since the since lion's gate has been been like establishing

what is he trying to say whatever they made dread they made warzone yeah would you give them another like iconic ip to handle in that same gory really hyperviolent style um well in terms of ranking the movies that say it's the second best the first is ironic the first best is ironically the first one with dolflungren because it's the most even it's the most fine it's the most like it's an actual movie whereas the thomas jane one is a slapstick comedy of epic proportions that falls flat on his dick in every possible way and warzone is like too much in the other direction it go it jumps from ultraviolence to hilarious comedy whereas whereas and like even though the movie was technically not a great comic portrayal it was unique and that the punisher was like this weird hobo that lived

in the basement that smeared his naked body with like sponge and the only thing to make him signify is the punisher is that he's got little skulls on the edges of his knives it was a neat little thing like it's not great but it's more even and then i would not give lions gate anything because i hate lions gate lions gate refuses to make a new dread everyone that made dread wants to make a new dread it was profitable and lions gets like and they fucked over the director on on a punisher warzone really badly like they didn't pay her or they didn't do something it's a sort of controversy and it's just a shitty shitty movie studio the only reason they're still alive today is because they have the they made all the fucking what's it called that those shitty vampire movies twilight

twilight holy shit remember twilight no there's something to do with that they make all these bad teen movies to keep themselves afloat hey man here's for context here's hell writer this fucking just ghost writer or punisher logo or or hell biker depending what game you're playing okay okay i got some names kuhl and and half four kuhl and fucking kicks ass and half or half or is pretty cool love those two okay cool i love punisher too yeah i haven't seen them yet but you asked the questions yeah now i do uh roland this isn't a question just gonna say that uh basically you guys should talk about the spider-man toei japan japanese spider-man show yeah yeah we should you mean the the japanese the robot with the fucking cartoon or the

original sentai show okay i i only see the intro i never actually watched i changed lia pardon i've watched a couple i know a friend of mine who watched spider-man you know the song all of them yes i can remember the song of my heart there's a lot and uh what happened was is that it was an incompetent production and four episodes in they completely lost the robot so uh it's entirely stock footage for like the remaining 20 episodes uh and just like i remember the very first episode was about uh a singing man with a guitar that used his mind powers to kill spider-man nice it's it's awesome it's fucking garbage it's the worst it's so amazing he says that spider-man started sentai by existing it's possible in his costume in that just in that frame it's possible

i think you'd have an entire podcast with those weird japanese offshoots of like you remember that there's that japanese ninja turtles cartoon oh all the designs are very similar to the american one but they have power they power up seven forms and then they all form great turtles they merge it's a fucking uh that's amazing that's a little bit old but yeah roan we fucking love japanese spider-man again no it's terrible there's a time and a place i know what that seems so bad can you sing it because i don't remember it i just end the podcast with it or maybe something else maybe so well i had a plan for something going on this is clearly better man i don't know this is clearly

better than what you had planned yeah uh and jay says oh i saw you just you you you you just yeah no no no that was the same one i just oh okay it's red it's red because it looks like he just looked at one that he picked out earlier and was like no no no no i just clicked that oh that's we just did it um it's funnier to skip them yeah no the same guy whatever he he sent it under any military jay says my friend who called you guys my friend who called you guys a fucking idiot on the podcast a few weeks ago yeah for saying revengeance is isn't canon also yeah it's this guy over him all he also likes re six thinks killer is dead is better is a better character action game than revengeance plays dota and didn't like the recent gods of plays dota well there you

go that is wow so you're hitting all the nails on the head of why we hate you dota ruined his brain the only thing i will say is that like the gameplay of re six is very much an acquired taste and is good yes but the other marks are wrong playing dota is fine i guess and i i should note that like a lot of people don't get it and even i didn't get it when you first said it when you say the gameplay of re six is good you mean literally like the controls and the system well i think well you've seen me play but it's like the character action shooter when you know there's a lot of shows the problem is that the enemy ai army designs and levels that you're put into are 95 percent reasonable six is a game that should have spun off into its own it's called a double or may cry

should have been operation raccoon city you're oh my god an operation raccoon city should have never existed liam when you're right you're right liam when you're right you're right oh my god we need to nail it harder than ever like holy shit we need to time travel and stop this yeah when you're right you're right bad now dammit we didn't succeed dammit industries do now but you know a j i respect that sometimes you just got to throw your friend under the bus literally sometimes no not literally don't don't condones literally throwing your friends under bus if a giant demon bus is chasing you and your friend your friends going under there you don't have to run faster than the bus you just got to run faster than your friend which is easy if you throw him

under the bus yeah that's the trick that's where you get them under the bus yeah uh what is being put on the watch gentlemen it's being put on the watch that's a good question to answer liam oddworld new and tasty which comes out on the 22nd and i'm really excited for it because i really like the oddworld games uh it's a remake of apes odyssey shit's gonna be good lord landings back and uh game looks awesome i hope it's cool i hope it's really profitable because he wants to redo the other ones and make new ones and he's teased some names of new ones and like fuck they sound great i like and like after the recent amazing stranger's wrath ports and like this it's like man i hope oddworld's back to stay because oddworld's awesome i've never played the oddworld games

yes i have they're sick right they're super cool they're really good yeah and i'm looking out for that and i know that it's different but stranger's wrath has some awesome i love it it's my favorite one oh nice my favorite one if you're borrowing pats vita there is a perfect port of stranger's wrath on it it native resolution 30 fps it's so good if you want to jump back into that game like highly recommended maybe maybe what are you willing uh you guys still thinking you still need more time i don't know what i'm thinking about cooking some of them again oh yeah because there aren't because i'm waiting for a friend to get internet tried that it was a huge disaster was yeah but i still got 30 40 hours out of it okay it's just like i'm waiting on a friend to get

internet so i can co-opt to find divinity and i kind of just want that wandering around rpg thing and there's literally nothing except you can go back to skyrim 100 times so i'm doing that again also we're good to be going to con bravo this weekend that was gonna come after the spoilers yeah okay fine i'm gonna be watching con bravo sure yeah uh watching the weather and him melding it too uh i guess i played a little like a little funny flash game called uh coming out simulator 2014 uh and it's exactly what it sounds like you basically uh are like this guy kind of made a biographical game about he him trying to come out to his asian parents and how awful that went back in the day right and you kind of and it's it's written in a really funny entertaining

way and it's it's it's a fun little flash thing is this like don't shit your pants no that was like don't fart no that games don't shit your pants not quite not just like a flash game or something about a traumatic experience that a lot of people have to go through a lot of people don't have to go in that just in that's but done in a really goofy way that ends up being really enjoyable in that sense in that sense yes and i mean and you know and like it's it's also like you know he's telling you about like how it happened to him and stuff and it but it's written in a kind of interesting tone that's fun that being said i hope simulator games die horribly wait sorry i hope ironic simulator games and these neo simulator games die horribly i hope

truck simulator is forever i hope there's a new game about your simulator not cutting free i surgeon is the edge where i'm like yeah and then it's the rock simulator horse simulator that's all pouring over oh is that a thing yeah somebody made a horse version of quaff actually kutaku made a good roundup you know what i understand then because i didn't know that okay yeah exactly i saw i didn't i very likely where this came out i had never seen i'd never seen uh or heard of surgeon simulator i saw a video of people playing it once that was i died at how hilarious it was and then i didn't know that there was more it is the neo simulator trend rather than surgeon simulator which is the funny like ironic one okay but then it's the rock simulator water simulator

i eagerly await the simulator simulator that's already exists it does you you're i don't know what engine it's on but you're in a room and you look at the computer and in the computer you see the same screen you have amazing and then it keeps going yeah amazing and you can't leave the room you can only play the simulator okay simulator great right right that's one of the best ironic neo ironic okay well then i want to hear the word neo that sounds like a really interesting one considering the other ones that sounds actually pretty interesting i gotta say i now thought of what i was installed long enough for you know exactly uh i picked up three comics yesterday and i hope to read them all of this week because remember we're talking about ghost

horror and playing the ghost writer game everyone's like you need to read jason erin the the writer that's writing all that good punisher that you and i are reading yeah uh he had a ghost writer run and apparently it's fantastic too so i bought that i brought brian k von's the hood okay i don't even know what that is but it's a brian k von on it's a name you can trust it's just a guy in the hood with a gun and i was like sure i'm sure you can make this interesting and the entire collected works of frank miller's robo cop versus terminator i saw that just sitting there i'm like i i never actually read this that's not actually canonism but you could be but that's what i'm wondering if you really did it like yeah this makes sense like is it does it leave it open to like plausible

deniability or is it like it's dark horse right yeah yeah the comic the dark horse universe is all its own canon okay i'm not really familiar with it so i mean batman and spawn and aliens theoretically then all exist of course in dimensions of course i like that's her name aliens beat up superman canon is xenomorphs beat up superman they got kryptonite did that happen yeah shortly after batman versus predator there is a i saw teases in comic books where it's had the two-man logo then is xenomorph bursting out of it this was and this was after muhammad ali already beat his ass down already so jeez rough it this is the 90s so yeah everyone versus everyone what's coming up on the watch you ask uh not the watch sorry what's coming up on the channel

well busy week as we explained one the fucking websites up once again so from now on the segment will be what's coming up on the website on the website don't say the website on the website on the internet site don't be a joke this new fangled website you say what is coming up on the worldwide web on the internet to medilio i am using the internet are going to con bravo yeah on friday we're leaving on friday because i still don't know we're leaving on friday morning okay okay it's it's friday morning i need to get the number early friday morning i need to know this yeah it's important because i was planning on getting really drunk on thursday the only one who knows when we're leaving yeah yeah leading full i got his nick phil we should have a meeting about what it is

we should probably talk about this and like you know what else we should have a meeting about what what the fuck we're going to do for a panel no that's fine you can just bullshit that you can wing it for two hours i'm not sure but i know we can just use an hour to be like hey anyway any idea everyone the best idea i can't put the night before work out everything you can win anyone who's there won't be able to tell and if if they can then they'll be wondering and they're had the whole time are this are they winging it are they not winging it anime north that was planned let's let's just charge people seventeen thousand dollars to see our panel and then masturbate on stage it's true because if we get two people waiting them we're set for a while

now we're talking everybody said there's going to be a demonstration of the autoblow too anyway for those that are also going in order uh you know if you're interested uh our panels on saturday also our autograph session is saturday uh and we might be participating in one or two little side things that they got going on it's like there is a panel which is like the the uh highs and lows of youtube fame that i think we probably might have something to say about i don't know maybe we're re-invited to be a there's no big spot no well we weren't invited we're the lows can you believe these motherfuckers said relative success look at these the fuck's up with that this bullshit i gotta get an autograph from john tron for a friend i gotta work really hard when we get

there the autograph don't worry it's fun when we get there when we get there i'll text him oh yeah uh aside from that uh our our our murdered soul suspect lp will continue with our dark souls to the darkest souls will continue and we might have one new uh a second episode of one of our little series uh showing up this week possibly and all you fuckers that are like hey i'm building a character specifically to kill clerics and we're gonna try to find you find you motherfuckers yo that's awesome no that is so it's not because they're wasting their time because they have no idea what soul level to look for exactly they're way behind we're gonna be on they're way behind but that is awesome i love you'll be that some guy that will try every possibility beyond every

time of the day they won't know and i'll disconnect my fucking internet woolly killer has take that yeah pretty much well i mean they've already like the ready to spoil some good names because they're like oh how great would it be like we're making a character named uh re4 tmp yeah you know that's pretty good i saw some people talking about how they should get somebody to call display as the tmp yeah con bravo which is elaborate i'm hoping that like eight i hope i didn't give them that idea oh god damn it all right you're always like this leon pat get the fuck out okay this is the take five take ten you're gonna call us when you're done yeah maybe wait we're coming back i thought we were leaving yeah you either are whatever you like well they said there'd be pizza

there is there is no you know what let's go grab some pizza and sit in the office there you go sit in the office eat all your pizza i brought it for you thanks why am i being like this enjoy please don't talk too loud or i'll cry don't talk as loud as you do got it man i hate those guys fucking the worst the worst also where's the pizza fridge oh good thanks shut up no you have microwave works well it it does work okay you got plates you're on your own is there a cat in your microwave so season four game of thrones we were dancing and dancing and dancing we danced around the entire it was hard it was hard and i wasn't gonna admit we danced around the entire fucking show to be perfectly honest uh so i think just to kind of catch people up right away right off the

back um aria favorite character for me personally i love the shit out of our yeah because she represents everything that i we've talked about how your favorite characters and aria many jokes in many videos fair enough it makes sense but also brian because yeah like and and it's amazing how i didn't actually see the connection there until they met each other yeah i know i was reading about them and then the and then fucking she looks up to her in that scene and it's just like how did you become can i be that and i was like oh my god how do i level up the fact that there's so many people and by the way guys we're we're spoiling up to season four not the books so don't be a dick if you've read the books don't talk about that stuff in the comments or whatever and i've

already had a few things spoiled for me because i know several people that have read everything yeah just like it's if you're up to date on the show only do not talk about stuff that has gone beyond where the show is yeah um for she's easy but like no for me the uh finding out that so many of the actors in the show are supposed to be complete scumbags according to the books and almost everyone and the actors just made them more likeable is like what the fuck up brawn right coming in to talk about like sorry terry and brah i can't fucking help you out during that scene where he's like i'm not gonna fucking fight the mountain why would i do that yeah like it was so in the show you're like ah i understand he's got a thing going on he's got a

girl whatever it makes perfect sense his life is on the upswing but like when when he's actually going at it like in the books apparently it's a really cold like fuck you i'm a sell sore i got i have no allegiance to whatsoever yeah it's supposed to be way dirtier tywin same thing the entire show has been like everyone that's read books or whatever is like cersei is 100 billion times worse than this they keep giving her scenes to make it make her seem human every once in a while but she's not she's not human it's bullshit i don't trust those scenes there hasn't been one in a while but i remember they had one where uh joffrey chewed her out maybe in season three and like she and like she the camera lingered on her sad face and she's like

oh no my son type of thing oh no he's crazy oh wait that's not my fault yeah it is i made him like this fuck you right um obviously we mentioned we mentioned it before but but red viper is just a great fucking character as well and he wasn't taken from our world far too soon and he was not even supposed to be that cool did you see that sick cosplay the entire cosplay as a guy dressed as him and he just lays on the floor and let his friend poke his eyes yeah that's great that's really cool um in general like talking about the last sort of episode is um because i read some things about like how how it's portrayed in the book yeah and one of the things that was was really key was the fact that like when i watched the show it's like you know the show is usually shot very

dark whatever something i didn't get is just like like oh okay he's gonna go see um uh she's shea and i don't know she's in this random bedroom what was that all about she's in she's saying my lion and i'm like oh maybe she's dreaming about no and it's like no and that was that was tywin's room they did not explain it explicitly you had to just be paying attention to pay close attention she was straight up only going to see tywin and when he gets there he just happens to see her in there yeah and then fucking that's why he kills her he breaks completely and when i watched that i was like okay yeah she betrayed you but i was like well this is really harsh and then when it was like kind of clarified to me it's like oh no he was that this is wise because tywin was was having sex

with her as she is known to do because she is yeah you know and furthermore um the clarification that when he goes to see tywin are in the books this is one thing that's like i understand why they didn't get it in there but fuck it sucks that they didn't that that what pushed him over the edge that amazing story that happened way in the past so you guys i don't know if you remember this but it's like it's like yeah two seasons ago or so do you remember two seasons ago yeah like two that means two years ago yeah they tell the story about when uh jayme and terry and were young he had a wife named taisha and uh it was a moment where basically uh they happened across this girl on the road she was getting assaulted she was about to get raped and then

he goes in and they save the day they save her they drive off the attackers and then she she's super thankful and and like while she's recovering she falls in love with terrian yeah exactly and then they get married secretly and live like as a couple for two weeks yeah eventually word gets back to tywin he finds out he's like no exactly he completely loses his shit and basically because and the whole thing with him hating on that too is based on the fact that uh his his own dad was really bad at at like being a tywin's dad suck right so he was incompetent tywin hated him and and he had a stepmother that he was forced to treat like a queen so the whole time he's like people want to marry into money that's bullshit fuck that yeah so he's like i'm gonna make this as

horrible for terrian as possible by making it make by making up the story that uh this was all arranged yeah even even uh jamie was in on it and they had set up all the with the with the girl and these marauders that were attacking her they had set up a big thing exactly to make terrian think that he saved the day when he didn't right and and it was just like oh he's our like our weird like mini ipsons so you know like how could you possibly ever fall in love with her to have a girl fall in love with you etc and then they just it like the way it goes for her is horrible yeah right you go look that up it's it's really fucked up what they do but um he's just and he ends up being scarred for life obviously by the situation you know so the reveal is that jamie explains to him

apparently they're seeing that's not in the show yeah in that last meeting where they hug he explains to him um that wasn't set up that was yeah exactly what it wasn't what uh what he said to double swerve it was it yeah it was that he's triple crossing triple cross and you actually did save her from an attack and all this shit happened and this whole thing to fuck over just to give terrian way even more reason to go to thai way exactly so like after that point more potent apparently uh jamie uh well after jamie tells him that at that point terrian is like well fuck this i'm not even i don't want to have anything to do with you anymore he completely cuts off his ties yeah you know or in the show they kind of leave on more amicable like neutral terms neutral terms

yeah which are obviously going to turn sour there's no way that's not going to turn sour now it has to but he gets for one of them to move up the card they like they'll have to kill or face against each other you know as the plot as the character is in the cast tighten up i love the idea of game of thrones characters i need to move up the card yeah i need card now push me harder shurijar is fuck you um um yeah so when he eventually goes and sees tywin in that last scene and he says don't say the word whore he's talking about taisha yeah not shea and that has way more emotional gravity so that he fucking arrows him like fuck you that's why the way the show is written sometimes is is quite good now on the service level uh people that love the books might be like oh that

sucks they they they took that part out but they will put a part of a bit of dialogue that if you know the books you can be like oh they are referencing that for us even though they didn't put the actual context in for people because it's too long to explain in the show's format or they'll just make up a fight like brian versus the hound yeah which was one of the hypest flights in that entire season it was really good because and it's and it turns out oh that never even happened yeah what happens is that they that the hound and aria just find some random marauders not random they have names and stuff and they're kind of more introduced but they never it's the same fight but it's just with a different group of characters that just meet at the crossroads which technically already

happened for aria and and the hound anyway but they just got out of that situation yeah that's true um that fight was so fucking good because you're like one i love both these characters i mentioned this before but you love you you're rooting for both but you're like shit one of them has got to go one of them has to right but while they started out the fight it was clean and you're like they're sword fighting maybe it can still end um make a bleed yeah you're a and then and then they fucking fall to the ground and an ear comes off and you just start getting the dirt and the fucking mud and you're like oh this is gonna end badly god because also just an episode or two ago you saw a brutal end of a fight with the vipers and you're like oh god please please please

just pull up padrex fucking cookie yeah do it you know uh um what else happened earlier in the season uh the entire fucking battle on the wall oh my god that was like i'm there's a thing for me where it's like okay if you spend too much time in a place it'll in this in this world you're gonna be like ah come on get back to the other because everyone has their favorite story threads and characters exactly and then if you're spending way too much time with sam which i felt this season did fair enough and lots of people tell them they read the book says sam does some things yeah i'm like i don't care i don't have a major why are you still fat you cannot still be fed if you work at the wall that's the entire thing i don't have lots of i don't have a major problem with

like john snow but there's way more interesting people than him in the show not not at a point there was a point where john snow was like all the coolest dude ever but then as it's going on it's it's like yeah it's because he's always being put in this situation situations where he's never the like he's never where he should be and yeah it's like and it keeps dragging on and on it's like guy so no one's gonna listen to you yeah but but that the other commander that always forget the name of the one that's always shit on the asshole he's not dead he got dragged into a door he got he's bleeding out but he got dragged into a doorway to safety but that's the last time you see him i never see him okay we but they we don't know but anyway yes you don't know okay but he's

always down trying by that guy and it's like you get tired of john's situation and that he's always stuck here no one teach yeah no one listens to him whatever but he's the only guy that knows but when he's kind of stuck you're just like oh you know out of weight and uh like i enjoy fucking caesar i forget his name oh uh well the actors uh man's raider man's raider the actor's not man's raider that's sirian hines yes man's raider is the shit so the more time you show the wildlings under underutilized though unfortunately if they want to make up more scenes make up more scenes with him and it's great he's great but like what and then when you get the giants coming out like that i'm the mammoth oh you saw a little bit of them you saw this hit and you got hype you got

hype right and then they're they come rolling out again and you're like yeah okay yeah okay i see what's going on yeah but then he pulls out the fucking composite longbow and just blows that dude out of the hut and you're like oh my god he falls all the way down and it's impaled on the ground and when the other giant is running through the underground tunnel to break into the the wall i can't believe how that was a moment where giants you cannot show that battle and i'll be like okay that's fine because because what because it's like how will you do it justice yeah there's there's not much you can do you know how you do it justice because later on you tell the story yeah yeah you can do that right but then someone had to survive he was he was the last he was the

last king last king of the the the of an ancient race from before the first man's right and it's like oh he was a farmer's son yeah but found a sword down his throat that sucks you know um the fucking and i mean you look at the the uh the the white walker scene from a couple episodes ago whatever with the fucking baby that that's a thing that kind of bothers me is that it's the same thing as the fucking shadow baby that was born out of whatever the red girl yeah yeah yeah yeah the red one is this is this interesting plot line that like from what i understand it's it's similar to this in the books it's this interesting plot line that was a one and done almost and it doesn't get brought up again or if it does it's much much later you can explain or even explain that

well well i'm banking on finding out once they explain what the fuck the lord of light actually even is yeah it's one of those things that like it's this god that keeps getting mentioned over and over and over and you're like it's gotta have some sort of payoff or whatever there's there's a twist happening somewhere i don't know who exactly and later on and then uh not later on earlier before that when the um and when aria is hanging out with the the brotherhood without banners yeah and that they're praying to the same god right and the fucking guy actually is not dying and taking the wounds yeah coming back to life it's super interesting by praying to the same god you're like okay something's actually up there's actually stuff we're just waiting to find out like what

weird creepy thing is is is really great if that guy dies and then it's just like the camera lingers on you just hear booker tea go wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute that was a really interesting plot line that again is not like it's still there and i hope comes up again in later seasons because it's again one of those that other thing that we both like is i always forget his name but the man without a face oh check in her car so i remember you asking me like did you know if that comes up that guy ever comes up again i'm like i don't know and the one of the last things of aria in the last in the last episode yeah yeah yeah what is her giving the the guy that coin that guy going oh shit this coin oh that's her i was about to say

i was going to say like the current status of affairs is the starks are fucking done there there's just nothing there's sansa right there's nothing left they're raised to the ground they're linear just ending on that note i want to ask you is that i remember it like maybe a season or two ago i was like i'm coming around to sansa i think she's paid her dues she's learned like what the fuck is actually up and i was like and you were kind of like yeah i don't know and like after this season i'm like i'm aboard the sansa train she's doing stuff she's playing the game a little i don't even think she has a train frankly but i liked i liked the turn to show her being like yeah okay i know how to play well that's what i mean yeah i enjoyed that yeah but i still don't

like her or her face i i i i think i would not like her or her face but actually i'm coming around and had i not been provided with options that were way superior in every way but but i said besides with a character that that goes to the arc of like i'm a terrible shitty person and i'm like whatever and then they go through a really tough time and then they come out of it like i and if they come out of it okay and they're becoming better like i i i get bored that no i i hear that i get aboard that really easily because to me the most comparable character in the show to her would be someone like marjorie tarot right i was gonna say that hound as well and i always like marjorie but but that's what i'm getting at is she's awesome she is because that's the thing is like okay

not everyone has to be a fucking tough girl like badass no because because i understand that i like that stuff but regardless you have to write other characters that are done properly and well yeah and a character like marjorie besides being ridiculously hot yeah is also really really good at playing the game doing exactly working the mental mind games it's like psychology but in reverse sorry for all of sasa i enjoy that and so like when i see sansa being not only shitty at the game not as good but shitty at everything and she's just like a boo and her nose is red and she's just getting glad you're right she's getting carted around everywhere but but the the reason why it stands out in my mind is just with the scene where i assumed that her and little

finger had planned out everything they were gonna say about the death of um of what's her face her aunt yes yes in the area i thought because when it just cut until like the next episode i was like all they planned so loud they know what they're gonna say and they had not and it was little finger just going oh shit i hope this turns out all right i got my plan set up and it was all her but it was all her it was like it was like her just not having a chance and then getting a really good time to cut a promo right right and she if she did it and that that was the thing that really stands out in my mind i was like okay i like her now i'm gonna dress up like maleficent yeah oh that was great that part was great too so we have to i just i just think though i just think that like um

um i whatever she's for four seasons for three and a half seasons she was three and a three-quarter seasons she was a character that was in distress and did nothing about it to be fair she couldn't do much she couldn't do much but everyone else in the show would have done more think about every other character in the show you can't realistically say that because there's some characters that would never be in that situation you you're talking about characters that i'm like i'm like you get her and then you get you get you get the other two you get danny you get fucking marjorie you get that's what i was gonna say is i wasn't talking about the elephant in the room is that season four the year of nothing happening with danny yeah well wait she's like

i'm gonna rule i'm ruling now it's hard oh shit it's hard i gotta kill all these slavers oh wait you guys don't like that there's some of you that are like the slavery is awesome like what the fuck yeah i think the most interesting thing coming out of danny's thing is the relationship with the budding relate no the budding relationship with gray worm yeah and uh what's your name i wish to get hot ass body body in the hot pants yeah that that scene of of her like having a bath in him like taking a gander at her even though he shouldn't yeah it's like one of the the highlight moments where it's like they had that conversation it's like i'm really sorry i saw you boot it really sorry i didn't mean she's like that that's okay i guess but you know what i wanted you to

see i guess and he's like yeah me too i'm glad you saw the booty like he's like i don't even know if i have junk i'm not sure i haven't looked down there in a while but i gotta see that booty i gotta see hey hey don't let the kids see the booty bump you know when you and then that's like it's like jorah the fucking patrol whatever like na na na na hey hey hey goodbye okay well i like jorah but he did dessert like and you know he he he was so clingy he was he was really so desperate and like i like the actor and you know what and he had his moment of like righteous indignation when the richest man in cough showed up and he's like yo look how big macawfers are i'm by coffers i'm me my dick right and then he's like you can't trust him come on and then it turns out no yeah

you're right you can't trust him he's a piece of shit you know and and like he's like ah right see i told you and you're and she's like oh jorah i trust you now and whatever yeah and he's like good but i will slowly weave my plans and and one day 15 years from now i will be in your bed is his thing you know and i'm just like fuck like that that's an easy assumption to make and i like again we haven't read you know the books or whatever but i also kind of i also feel like he wasn't really into that like he wasn't like i want to get in her bed he just loves her but in a not mater not the way but not but not a hundred percent sexual way either like i always get that yeah yeah and that might be because of the actor okay not the book or the character's intention

like maybe he wasn't overtly out for it but he wouldn't turn it down if it was there it was being offered yeah maybe he wouldn't turn it down but overall like the entire season four like every time i went to danny and i was like this isn't going anywhere although it is like when it's like yo lock up your dragons that shit ain't working out that's almost like don't get hyped anymore for dragons we don't have the budget for it in season five we're just walking that no i feel the opposite really the fact that uh dragon dragon dragon the black one the black one is the big one yeah he got away i know that to me that's like no we're gearing up to do a whole thing we're where the fuck did he go so in the book i'm not sure yeah i'm sure you know about this

difference is in the book of like danny like ties the the other two dragons to a post and like a little ring it's in it's in the yeah it's in like a show it's like she's open a cave with no right yeah yeah it's way harsher it's way harsher i don't know why they decided to do that and i think we had the discussion in the last time after or afterwards where we were just like you kind of get you start thinking about it you're like fuck yeah that's true what did the ancient targaryens do back in the day when the dragons were just going nuts and the answer is they didn't give a fucking shit egg on the conqueror he's a conqueror fuck you you got you had the honor of having your child eaten by my dragon i was going to say when people come into agon

storm rooms they're like yo your dragon fucking gobbled up all my and i'm actually being partially devoured right now by one of your dragons then agon would be like so fuck you pay me you pay me for getting eaten by my dragons now fuck you i gotta go fuck my sisters you know like that shit was cold as ice back in the day okay the last thing sorry sorry no i was gonna say no the last thing i guess is just like um two things like what do you think is gonna come in the future what are your what are your predictions well i wanted to touch on one thing before and no one confirm whether we nail these or not yeah we don't want to know uh one thing to touch on right before we again to the future is that like the whole thing with like how do you even like do you

care do you whatever the whole thing about the theon like what do you think about that because that storyline is a thing where it's like i hate theon so much theon's the worst and now i'm like ah this is really dark and i'm just disturbing i don't like it i think it's interesting and i want to see what party's gonna play i could have no idea where that goes because i'm really yeah what happens i don't fucking know i definitely didn't give a fuck but you know what next to brandon the freak show or whatever oh yeah that whole thing sled losers that those stupid sled losers and and hodor the coolest most charismatic character of that group you know like like they got to fight skeleton warriors yeah that was hype and that was the first hype i've been for their

storyline in forever like when you have that up going on i'm like you know what i don't mind theon but it got i got dry on theon but then it's like now now i'm curious i want to know what's going on plus the actor that plays ramsey i really like him yeah he's really he he played the opposite character in misfits where he's like this meek little leader exactly and then he's just like the worst motherfucker in the show he loves to hate him he's great at that um where do you think it's going where do i think it's going is that like i okay i have a couple theories okay uh westeros and your overhead well king's landing is that like sursy now basically has full reign of everything yeah and that can only go worse from there like

that's good every time he's gonna go to king's landing everyone's gonna go oh shit no one's left it's gonna be a shit show it's gonna that that like i i assume like depending on how the show is once sursy and jamie get done fucking on all the corpses the corpses of their father and the corpse of shea i actually see there being a huge wedge between sursy and jamie now and like that's going to be the interesting thing about about king's landing is they will be the two main character i see jamie leaving king's landing because fuck this what's here i know no you know what i could see him leaving in the books but i think for the show he's gonna stick around because that's the only thing that's the only like conflict that could happen they have to wipe the city off of the

little intro like even ferris is gone imagine the intro and then they don't go to king's landing no no nothing's happening over there right over it you know i to me it's gonna i'm like okay we got um area new girl in the new city so yeah that's gonna do a thing because i could read that that like no wait um uh dorne is it dorne i think where they're like we're going to be filming all of spain for either dorne or where area is going i'm pretty sure about bravos bravos i think it's bravos yeah they're going to they're going to bravos okay so and obviously she'll be meeting a bunch of new cool characters and they'll be leveling her up i fucking bet that uh tywin i rather tearian is that boat's probably headed from bravos too wouldn't be surprised if it goes

into the same the same place two characters on a boat off on a journey i bet you're gonna end up on the same yeah okay i can see that i i see i see john's whole thing just spinning its wheels well what i was gonna say i was like the most important thing to me that happened in that last episode is that fucking look that the red lady looks at john yeah and you see her eyes and it's like don't look at him don't look at him because she sees him and she's like i know what the fuck you are yeah and she's getting off on that so so i i see the whole like you know wildlings versus you know the the wall just spinning its wheels no one really you know maybe they'll have lots of long discussions or whatever but after all the fighting at the wall it's like there's no

nothing happening at the wall there's going to be just talking in preparations or whatever and then i hope that we'll actually have the the what's her face the red lady yeah going back and forward john and sewing things in there whatever yeah as he's standing us taking a maybe a back seat all that because i see the red girl going oh oh what's this meat over there that i see fuck status not important anymore going over to john because you just have a shit together over here and not just that but i told you about my theory right like then this is something that's like the backstory of Game of Thrones is so fucking interesting the shit and then tons of it there's so much of it but the shit that happened off camera before the story even started yeah is way

cool so my theory because we don't know what the fuck exactly happened is it's like okay john is like Ned comes home and goes yo hey uh sorry i knocked up this lady and uh it doesn't seem like you net yeah while it happened so it's too bad we got a new son now and like what was the lady like ah she's i don't want to talk about it yeah right exactly goes off to work comes back with this is like whatever so my thing is like who was that i think that was the child of the mad king son agon uh no no agon's the original a young convert yeah uh what's his name a ragnar so you right yeah like the mad king son when he kidnapped Ned's sister Ned's sister who was supposed to be betrothed to robert exactly like that's what set off that whole war that's how robert became king

exactly i i think that that was straight up like um when he kidnapped her whether or not she was willing we don't know the details yeah but one way or another like he they had sex and the baby came out and i think that he is straight up half stark half targaryen yeah and that's why the series is called a song of fire and ice it's because john snow represents both so that's why i'm like he has to be the main character it's a common theory for like uh you know game and third's uh enthusiasts or whatever of the book especially but i subscribe to it too because i'm like that makes so much sense and it's so good and it's nothing that's in the show like you know the show this is all like although if you have the show in blu-ray you can read like learn about

all that shit yeah when you listen to the the extra special features exactly which i definitely did do yeah and so when you think about all that and the fact that i never bought the third season on blu-ray and i should because they've got more of that shit nice nice uh so but when you think about that and you're like holy shit this guy this bastard probably the most important probably has he has the blood of two kings in him like uh elillandra or whatever her name is the red girl she sees that yeah looking at him and it's just like yo that's the dude you know yeah that's the so i am like fuck that's some plot shit happening through the fire and the flames you know the my other big worry is that like the way they're making these things it's like they're gonna finish

before or martin finishes the next book uh well they split the last book into two seasons yeah but still they pasted they pasted i don't know we'll see and he got pissed off by the way he's like yeah that was very recent i fucking insulted that people are like i what if you die he's like fuck you for saying that now i respect him for saying that not like but at the same time dude you're like you're like really old and like you're not you don't take care of yourself but yeah it isn't salty though like anyway it's it's it's cold as ice but but yeah man i i'm just like oh god so the plot started at the plot the cast shrinks again and we're gonna have to lose a couple more people before we get where it's going yeah you know as any season like it does like overall though

it was like the first season uh i mean the the first episode of the first season started with what do you remember what big event happened john joffrey dead joffrey died of course and after that there are a couple there are like at least five like nothing happened and nothing happened and nothing happened uh episodes and then like one i forget why it was it was the revelation that little finger went it was talking to the elisa and she said well yeah you i poisoned my own i poisoned john erin yeah and i went holy shit and then like that was it like that's all they mentioned of it because to me that's that's the other thing where i'm like i see the series gearing up to put little finger in the villain scene oh yeah yeah especially with like tywin gone and

like sursi not being a good villain in the sense that she doesn't think she doesn't have plans she's just pure emotion she's just pure emotion and stupid maternal life i might my god you're my damn me all these wonderful children i have that are crazy with incest yeah exactly i i totally see him as the scheming motherfucker that's gonna be like a major problem and whatever the fucking lord of light is i think that's where it's going i think those are the two biggest things yeah more there's more skeleton warriors yeah and i want stanice to just like ride south and clean shit up yeah because he can do that yeah he's got the stuff man he's got the tech he's been in the lab and you know what like i really like um his main right hand man actor whatever i can get his name

lots of stuff whatever he's fucking great man like he's really good you know the way he speaks the accent in the true case i don't want to talk bad about the lord of light but he seems like a big cockpit to me you threw me in a dungeon yeah that guy's amazing he's he's fucking great i hope he doesn't die but i know he can easily and then he's super disposable man but then again there's lots of characters that have died that you know we didn't think we're disposable at all yeah so that's true that's true so i i hope that the tell us how the game comes out in between these seasons to give you to wet your out why that'd be perfect because i believe they said 2014 maybe i hope it just starts in between it starts even if it doesn't wrap up i hope it just starts yeah this game of

thrones usually always starts around run the end of march or early april every year so yeah but yeah that's that's that's pretty much all i got to say about that i think that's a good summary of like you know shit yeah all in all pretty fucking right yeah so we better bring in those two nerdlingers again unless they unless they're still here are they just no they went out for their pieces or whatever so we'll just call it a day wrap it up and whatnot just sit here and make out oh your dreads are in my hair anime

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