Castle Super Beast - SBFC 050: PJ Phil is becoming Shang Tsung

Episode Date: July 22, 2014

We're back from ConBravo! Great times had all around! We talk about our weekend, our panel, and some of the big news going down this week! Also, Oreo taste test extravaganza!

I gotta, I gotta open up this week with what's on my mind. Open up your brain. What's on your mind? Thieves are cunts of the highest order. They're pretty bad. The highest order. They're the worst. They just open up and take your stuff.

Feeling-wise? Yeah. Right. Exactly. Like, yeah. This is where the pie-thief rage comes from. This is exactly, like, this is where the, the behind the lore, behind the music, where it all comes from.

We're breaking K-Fabe. Breaking K-Fabe. Because we have a really busy week and, like, we have a lot of shit to talk about. But just before I got here, like, I came from my girlfriend's place where her bike got stolen and that's fucking bullshit, but it happens, you know? And the thing that really is about the situation that's, like, especially, like, ugh, was it was locked up in her apartment's own backyard behind a secure gate thing. She was gone for the weekend, gets back and sees a note on the apartment door that says,

hey, the gate's broken for the backyard. If anything happens, it's not our fault. And then the first thing you think is, well, I'm gonna get my shit out of there and you go and know it's already gone. It was your shit. Yeah, that is the reason. And the bike lock is split and hanging off the fence. Man, you know what the worst part about bike thieves is?

They're riding a bike away. It's hard to chase them. Yeah. And you don't have a bike. Yeah. So they're gone. Their target is a getaway vehicle. Yeah.

How are you supposed to be? They're probably pretty fit. Yeah. Yeah. So even if you caught them, they might be pretty good at punching your face. And you're one with the fucking cutter. Yeah. And that big ass...

You don't see the blogs stealing people's bikes, do you? The big ass fence that's keeping them out. As soon as you get rid of the lock on the front that's supposed to keep them out. It becomes a sheet of paper. It becomes a barrier that hides them while they take their time sipping Merlot and cutting your lock. I don't think bike thieves are the kind of high class criminals you attribute to them. Thomas Crown did not steal your girlfriend's bike.

Maybe not. But he had the time. It was Jimmy. It was Jimmy. He had the time to do his numb decisions. It was Colleen. It was Jimmy from the shop. He had the time to fucking do a little spread, get some nice garlic bread out there, dine

for a bit, and then cut the other half of the lock and ride out. But bike thieves are strange to me because it's not like there's, or maybe in my innards, there's not, there's chop shops for bikes. I was just saying that. Where there's like guys that's going, hey, we got this model here, this model there. That's what the bike shop now in their house is. But like... What with all the hipsters?

No, that's the regular. They're actually buying illegal bike parts. At the same time, it's pretty easy though. You grab a bike, you bike it away, you sell it for 80 bucks and you're done. Yeah, and those are the people that they walk near the train station going, hey, hey, hey, 50 bucks, 50 bucks, 50 bucks, bike, no. Those are the people that fucking steal the bikes. Don't steal bikes, kids.

Don't buy bikes from people. Don't buy bikes from people. Also, in this group of easy steal items, laptops, people that walk into a room and go, hey, I got this laptop. Who wants this laptop for 80 bucks? It sounds like a story. It sounds like a story, doesn't it? Also, cunts are the highest order.

I'm extremely super biased, as I explained to Liam before this, so my priorities are all out of fucking order. You don't like thieves, you say. Thieves need to be fucking put down, Garfield style, drag them out in the streets. Garfield? Because Garfield would always say someone needs to be dragged out in the street and shot in the face. Oh, okay.

I thought you meant like... On the cartoon. Like, be lazily eaten. Normal. Yeah, no. Like lasagna. Like John made a bad meal in Garfield. It's like someone needs to fucking curb his golf to his motherfucker.

It's just, oh, God, it gets to everything inside of me. And John's like, boy, I wish I had a cat. Yeah. But you guys know this. You guys know this, because it goes back to the top. You talked about stealing your fucking gameboy. The atomic purple gameboy. Yeah.

It goes back to that. So that's what fucking comes out in me when I hear this shit, and she bought the bike two weeks ago. Yeah, I know. Well, that's... It happened to me three times. It happened to me twice. I feel like that's part of the story that, like, everyone fails to hone in on, where

the story of the tragedy of the theft of the item is always that it was you just got it. But guess what? Yeah. It's because it's fucking brand new. Exactly. And awesome looking. And shiny.

So every time you get a car, you should take your key and just fuck it. Well, I tried to get around that after my first two bikes got stolen. I was like, okay, let's go get a used bike. Sure. And I went... Just stick his bikes ever. They were sick. And I got this old bike, cost me 40 bucks.

It weighed... Was it stolen? It weighed a lot. Okay. It was uncomfortable. He bought his own bike back. Yeah. And it was stolen within two weeks.

But... Oh, there you go. We're only out 40 bucks. I was only out 20 bucks, but I was also out of bike. Because the cop's idea is to basically register the bike, get a number on it, and then if we ever find it somehow, we'll get it back to you. But like finding a bike is the most impossible thing. Come on.

Come on. So when you see the bike thieves, they know how to file the serial numbers off with assets. When you see people walking with their seats or their wheels and shit, it's like those people had bikes stolen before. They know what's what. They're like, I don't give a fuck how inconvenient this is. Also, even if my bike gets stolen, it's going to be shit for the thief. Yeah.

Who wants to walk away a stolen bike? No one. The guillotine just comes off you in waves. Now, Woollie, Woollie, let's jump from tragedy to happy good times and shit. To even bigger tragedy, whatever it was. To inverted tragedy. Inverted tragedy. Celebration.

No, no, no, no. That's the word. General Tolkien called it the eukatastrophe. The opposite of catastrophe is like a good thing, or a positive catastrophe. What was it? A eukatastrophe. That's what I heard a call. Well, don't you stutter.

I don't think that's a great name. I want to go with celebration. In a purely literal sense, like literary, the opposite of a tragedy would be a comedy. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Well, we didn't all get married at the end. No, we didn't.

To each other. Yeah. We're all the brides. All lifting the veil. Oh, boys, don't fight. You can both have me. The puck didn't show up and ruin my day. No, no, there was no Deus Ex Machina.

So let's go to each other's bridal trains and move on. And move on to Con Bravo. Con Bravo. I'm tired. Yeah. Are you? Well, yeah. Especially after Saturday night, for me at least.

That was it. We'll get to that. We'll get to that. Shout out to Con Bravo right off the bat for having a really clean, simple, nice logo. Yes. That's just two colors. You guys were all like art students going crazy about it. And it's great, and there's no random contest-winning mascot behind it.

Because you talk to Con Bravo and lots of logos for other cons. Like some are good, and then there's some that's just like friends of friends. Sure. Yeah. And I wasn't going to name names or get specific. I will. But I'm just saying, generally not a fan of a contest-winning mascot. So we are non-guests, so don't talk with Don.

That's what you're saying. Despite being friends with all the organizers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's how that works. They got us to Anime Norse. They did. But no. Con Bravo was a good time.

We went down to Hamilton. Yep. A.K.A. Hamilton. A.K.A. Hamilton. Yes. It did instinct.

It wasn't instinct. It wasn't instinct. No, no. It's not as bad as it used to be when I was a kid. But when you said stink town, the taxi driver or the cat or whatever, you fucking snuckered. He snuckered. And then he showed himself off. In professionalism.

Yeah, yeah. He knows. He knows. Yeah. You're going to say shout-outs. But shout-outs to the staff of Con Bravo. Yeah. Super good.

Shout-outs to the shout-outs. Super good. Like Super Pro. Like Magnfest. Well, let alone the fact that they flew us out, got us driven there, and then fucking drove us back in style. Yeah. Unintentionally.

Unintentionally. Style in the last. Like Magnfest was fun. And I think it's just a giant con that what you lack is a little bit of a personal sort of. But when they're smaller con like this, they make sure that like their gas won't take any more. Muffins.

Once more. Yeah. So when we were doing events that were more public, like there was always this, I forget its name, so I feel like it's such a bastard. Luke. Luke. Luke, he came up to me like six times in an hour asking me if I needed extra water bottles. Mm-hmm.

He's like, no. But thanks, buddy. Yeah, man. And we got the first time experience of going through an artist's alley and seeing a print of us. Yeah. Oh, I had the card in my wallet. Do we still have that?

Lansing Yogurt. Lansing Yogurt. Super cool. Lansing Yogurt. Killer is dead versions of us. So good. And yeah, I guess we should start on Friday, right? So, you know.

That's when things started. We got there pretty early in general. Yeah, like two o'clock. Didn't have much going on and we did a bit of a walk around to see what the place was like outside the con. Yeah, it's like a lot of third strike in projects. Yeah, so it has to be mentioned. You guys need to get on board with the idea that every con needs to have a third strike

cabinet. Caps in general. Because there was a gaming area in there and it was fine. Like there was some good stuff around there, but there was like a clearly dedicated crowd of third strike players in a big ass line the whole weekend around that third strike cab. That's, you can thank, shout-outs to Vince RXS Huey from Red Pill Gaming. That came from their arcade collection and the stream setup that he did, he ran the tournament

and stuff like that. That whole Toronto Street Fighter, Hamilton Street Fighter crew more or less got together and did the fighting game side of that game. So it was a good time. Liam, you got to play Project Diva so you were blue in the face. I played a ton of Project Diva. It was fucking great. And you kept playing after that.

I had that feeling where I'm like, I hope I don't expose myself and then I was able to get up saying I did not expose myself. I also had this fear. I mean, I walked in and I see Joseph Joestar playing Q and had some of the best sets of matches I have ever had in third strike against this guy. Yeah. And then he goes, I love the show. Yeah.

He's the same guy that I played K.I. against on the big 3D TV and anime moment. That same guy. He's a really fun guy. When the tournament went down, usually when we go to cons, I bring my stick just in case. And I never get the time to actually enter because you've got to wait around to be called. Thankfully Vince was like, I'll just text you. I know you can't really state the whole thing. So I'll work around it for you.

We'll try to make it happen. And I got to do two matches before I got dropped out. And it was fine. And he's like, dude, we've got to put you on stream and shit. I'm like, oh my god. Blow me up. Sure. Yeah.

Play my matches. Oh, were you on stream? You know, whatever. Did fine. Then so on. Second match is against Blue Blazer, who is the... So that didn't go so well, dude. Didn't go so well.

Blue Blazer. He's the Blue Blazer. He's Ontario's, like, T-Hawk player. And he got second in the tournament because he knows his shit. And first was Ricida. Ricida, yeah. The fucking Blanca player. I watched the finals, yeah.

The guy that showed me, oh, you can do this with Blanca. And like, he also blew up Daigo when Canada Cup happened always back. So some killers came out. It was fun. Because they added in a $500 pot and there was a serious... That'll do it. That'll get them out there. Exactly.

No, I played a bunch of casuals later with your stick, actually. Yeah, okay. That was a good time, actually. Good times. Tons of good competition up there. Yeah, Saturday was our big busy day. Well, Friday we also had the Elk Burgers down at the... Did you get an Elk Burger?

No, me and that... We nearly missed us the next time when Hamilton will have to go get an Elk Burger. Get that Elk Burger. It's called The Works, which is specialized in crazy burgers, like ones with peanut butter on it, marshmallow, and the macaroni and cheese ones, specifically Kraft Dinner on a burger. It's as well our American listeners, that's macaroni and cheese. And the menu makes fun of you if you get a boring burger.

Yeah, it's like, yo, do you want the shit? The plain Jane Ho Ho. Is it called that? It's called The Plain Jane, and the description just says, meat and bun, boring. That's really cool. Yeah. That's great. Spending more money.

Burger shaming. So I like the Elk Burger was great, I just had like a smoky mountain barbecue thing. Yeah. Chicken awesome burger, it was great. I went for the Elk, it was gamey, it was heavy. Musky. I like the idea of ordering the plain Jane, and the waiter goes back behind the door and as the door swings back open on the back seat, you hear this, what the fuck, it's just bullshittt!

Just thumb drum out, drum in something. When I get down on the table on a styrofoam plate, it all kind of falls apart a little bit. You spent five years in burger school for nothing. Can I have a clean plate? You go to your majesty! It's like chefs that go nuts when you ask for a steak well done. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well done. And I guess later on that night, just before jumping over, we didn't have the big JoJo sleepover moment that we wanted, but we had a different sleepover moment where you guys caught some episodes of The Simpsons from the new... Well that was a Saturday night, we were all watching it, what was that, the dating guy, it was called the dating guy in Canadian Tell-A-Too, it's just awful, it's just awful show, like look it up, oh actually don't fucking look it up, it's not worth it.

Like Liam and I were saying, we liked 16 and we were like oh shit, 16 is high, but we had to look it up to make sure. This was like a pretty magical thing because I had never known what it was, I don't know what 16 was, and it was a TV show that was just so aggressively Canadian, like it's been a long time since I saw one where they're just constantly like yeah, Toronto. But then 16 took place in the West Edmonton Mall. And then the last minute and a half turned into the most racist thing that you've ever seen on TV, but Nazi came out of nowhere.

The other 29 and 3 quarter minutes was like the most over sexualized, like hey, hand jobs! And then like I guess the kids are supposed to clap, I don't get it. I mean it's just like, I really like the art style of like 16 because it's kind of like those e-surance commercials type of thing, and it's like doing flash, but not in the way of like John Callaghan's quads, you know, garbage, it's doing it like nicely, so this was the same level of animation, that type of thing. It wasn't as good though. And it, yeah, the show was kind of just pure shit.

We also, it was nice to see commercials again for once, for once, I haven't seen commercials in a long time. We've looked around, we saw it, we got to YTV at one point, we watched ghost trackers. And yeah, those ghost tracking shows are bullshit because the formula is just like, oh, there's a history in this place, someone died, oh, I heard something, cut commercials, come back, and then by the end of the show, we got really close to finding something, we found nothing in the end. The one that you, that we all watched was godlike compared to some of the others.

Because I needed to know, was there anybody in this show calling out the ghost, yo ghost, come get me, bitch nigga ghost, what the fuck you got ghost, come on. And there's like this timid old man ghost, there's this timid old man ghost like, oh, I missed my life. No one's Chainsawing the old man, the bad guy going, fuck you old man, come at me. I kind of want that, just some bodybuilder or something. I'm here to punch the ghost in the face of ghost come out. I told you in the show that they didn't have that, the guys were like big fat guys with

tattoos and hair, and they have like chains and tattoos and they're just like, just trying to be aggressive. Like they're bikers that run a ghost show. West coast chopper's ghost. West coast chopper's ghost, pin light ghost. And we got to YTV at one point and started seeing like, I guess, where that channel ended up. And then we were like, what happened to some of the old guard?

No, the question is never what happened to some of the old guard. The first question is always, what's PJ Phil doing right now? This is a bit of context, I don't know, YTV was like a kids TV station. Cartoon network for a camera. Cartoon network, and back in the day between cartoons and commercials and segments they had, it was like a live action guy that was talking to the camera and had some sort of companion. Usually it'd be this big purple, big toothed TV called Snit.

And the guy himself, he always like, he'd talk to you and then look off camera to see like, what the next, read his lines or see if he's doing okay. As a kid you don't notice that shit, but when we went back and put it forward, he was like, what's the past, you know? So I said, what's he up to? And I found his Twitter. And like, apparently, apparently he's just been like, he's in a metal band now. And he's tweeting at porn stars, telling them how hot they are.

And that's PJ Phil. That's my childhood hero. PJ Phil has become, he's become Shang Tsung. He's not just like, he looks like fucking Shang Tsung. He's got the beard and he's got the fucking the same little mustache. Plus, you're talking about, he's wearing a leather jacket. And he looks super angry. He had that big ornate leather jacket thing.

He looks like Shang Tsung. Man, TV's weird. You don't weep, but that it pulls. Don't watch my TV anymore. It fucking, it creeped me out. And we talked about it a bit later on, the panel we were on, about how just like the old guard of TV. The old media.

It still exists, but it's so like, archaic. And scared. We don't watch it. And no one in our audience really still watches it. I don't know anyone in person who does. Better technology comes along and it's just better. So with that, you know, at noon we went out, we did our signing. Wait, we've moved on to Saturday morning.

Right, we went out, did our signing. That signing flew the fuck by. Yeah, it was two hours long. Yo, shout outs to people who waited in line to get my shit signature. Right? Like you people are awesome. Like, I fucking misspelled my name. You can't read, but you cannot write.

Well, it's because you all have a flourish you put to your signature. Well, he doesn't even use his walls. No, he has two little arrows. I make the Z and the L off a line with the same line. And then I put an exclamation mark. I haven't written anything other than my legal full name signature in about a decade. Well, don't use the same thing you sign your checks with. Yeah, exactly, right?

So I'm like, oh, and I waited until something was given to me to think about this. And I see all yours, you have a little skull mat. So I fuck it. I'll just freak out and go with an underline. But the problem with the underline is that because my name is Pat, if I fuck up the spacing on the underline, it connects with the T and I've written Pi. So there's two people at the other end of my signature and it's like Pi from Virtual Fighter.

Yeah. Good job. You misspelled your own fucking name. He'll get used to it. And I look a little crazed in some of the photos we took. A little bit. There might be some photoshopable material. You look a little arrested.

A little bit, a little bit. And yeah, I guess that was one of those lines too where the line itself never looked exceedingly long. Because it was huge check. And it never went away. It's because it was folded a thousand times like a Japanese katana. There we go. Fine blade. It goes through any...

Liam, how hard did you laugh when spoilers that we knew about and Willie didn't know about just started walking by us? Just walked in front of Willie? Well, I didn't catch that. And I don't really know that because I didn't hear all fuck from you. But it's like, because I'm at the end of the line and you were at the beginning, that's like a gigantic persona spoiler is just like, walk up to me and like, oh, okay, you can't see this.

But I just look over and Willie's like, is he crying? Okay. No? Okay, safety. Hilarious. Hilarious. Now that I'm starting to think about things, I don't want to think too hard. Yeah.

Because maybe I'll figure it out. So you go secretly in Persona 4. Sure. Big spoiler. I ruined it. We eventually went out to, what are we doing between the signing and the panel? Not much really. Not much.

Because the process of finishing up. Thanks to, shout outs to Derek the Bard who led us to the clip. The clip for his tripod. For the tripod. Derek appreciate it. Our panel would have been like difficult. So we got some insight on that is that when we got to our big panel and we had a half an hour set up and we had told them everything that we needed.

And it turned out that there was some sort of mix up where everything that we asked for was accidentally sent to another room all together. For whatever reason. For whatever reason. Because, you know, like I always think like, oh the, you know, like it's easy to run in these things. But it's... Hey man, when every time we'd run into the organizers, like they would be like, hey, hey, what's up? Everything good?

Right. Gotta go. So major, major respect to the guy who runs it, Mark P. Tran. Helped that out, yeah. Who actually he... Mr. Tran. He posts on our wall regularly and stuff. He was a fan and stuff.

And that guy's... Then he did a really good job running around the entire weekend getting shit done. And we're only delayed by like eight minutes. Yeah. No, no, no, no. Friday also was the reboot panel. I finally got to stick my head into one of those. Yeah, yeah.

You know. Were you that assholes? Like, excuse me. In episode 24. Clearly Bob's hat is sideways, not backwards. No. Well, he was the guy sitting there like, what's a guardian? Yeah.

Because I was like, I was like, imagine I sit down and just get exposed horribly. Yeah. I was the one who went to see Rancid Yogurt. Yeah, exactly. I was like, give me the button. And she's like... Would you want the guardian one or the regular one? And I was like...

And you and Pat were just like, oh... No, no, no, no. And I said like, give me the guardian one. I'm like, how funny would it be if I was like, the... What? I was like, well, bro, your entire life has been exposed as a total fraud. Yeah. But no, the panel was fun.

Towards the end, we started talking about the bullshit of the announcements about announcements for seven years, about nothing. That's got to be a tough part of that panel. But yeah. And then we... Hey guys, how sick of this are you? So pretty sick of it. And then we did our own panel and that video is going to be around.

So you know what I'm shocked about our own panel? What's that? Is that like, I enjoyed doing it and I didn't vomit on the front row of people. Right? No, it was great. Because you saw the way you were prior to that. Well, I know how I used to... I was the guy in one...

As late as university when I had to do a presentation in front of a class of 30 people. Yeah. Like, I'm taking like, proactive steps to avoid vomiting. Because I'm so nervous. And then I look out there and it's a lot more than a class of 30 fucking people out there. Well, I have a friend who's got like, public speaking anxiety type of thing. And basically has to randomly calm herself down in the middle of the day by just thinking, at least I'm not doing a speech right now.

Right. That is a picker up. That'll do it. That'll do it. So yeah. We were saying how it's different than giving a speech. It's not memorization. And if you fuck up...

It's during a panel. It's fine. So it's really easy when you make a bad joke and at least half the audience still laughs because they like you. Right. And I set the tone nicely by fucking almost eating shit. Yeah. Less than 30 seconds into the damn thing.

No, no, no, no. It's just... Your spoilers. Oh. Well, sure. Don't take that one. Let the people who came out and saw it get a little more exclusivity. Well, you've got two more hours of shit eating to watch.

Yeah. Don't worry about it. All in all, yeah, it went pretty good for something. It was fucking improvised at four in the morning the night before. Yeah. You worked on it. You put the work in. We had slides, man.

Like, we got some tech. And some video this year. Like, oh shit. Yeah. And then now we got to do another fun panel right after that with Angry Joe and the guy in Goomba. I was going to say, just before that panel, I had a chance to meet Angry Joe. Oh, he did.

I didn't even realize it. And within like 20 minutes, he completely one-aided my opinion on him because as you'll remember, I was shit talking him on the way in. You were just like, I don't have Angry Joe. I don't like this guy. He's an ass. And then you met him and you're like, no, I'm an ass. Oh my God.

He's such a nice guy. See, that's why you shouldn't judge people. There you go. It happens to everyone. Which is what happens on the panel where you got the same thing because when PewDiePie and Smosh came up, when he said like, yo, I met that guy, PewDiePie. And I know the types of video he does. But once I met him, it was a nice, it was a little bit.

I would love to be with PewDiePie. What you did with him was literally what you did with PewDiePie. Exactly. Exactly. We all do it because we look at the other guy's content and we say, that's not how we like to make content. That's not what we want to do. Stop being different opinions, you know.

You got to start from the place where you're like, I'm a piece of human garbage. Yes. Therefore. And the thing is, well. No, that's where you start, man. And we'll go there in a minute. Yes, we will go there in a minute. We'll go there in a minute.

But that panel, that was a fun time. We basically did the pros and cons of YouTube quote-unquote fame. Which is like, so the organizers picked that title. And everyone going in was like, grabbing their lapels going, at the raw title. I think the very fact that that panel exists and it was created by them is a demonstrator of that ideal of YouTube fame where people just say the word. That's the case. Yeah.

And it's like, I guess that's why, because we're here because you guys say so. And it's always on that list. It's like, it's uncomfortable because when we say shit to your easelabs like. We mean it. We mean it. Once again. The starting point is you as a piece of human garbage. Right.

And you have pulled on a little, you've put a flap of paper in front of your face that says human. And that's fooling people for now. And so we got to basically talk about how comments hurt our feelings sometimes, but also. Also, I like, I made the point that yeah. Whoa. He's dying.

Dead. So I think me and you are getting a little bit of the con flu. So I can feel some shit in my lungs. I'm gonna be okay. That video should be uploaded. And I guess we could link to it on Facebook. Which one? I don't.

The second one? Yeah. I don't think we got the video. But it was recorded. By I Don't Know Who. Yeah, but if we find it. It'll take us long. If we find it, we'll definitely get it.

I think that's it. Yeah. That was all about how, well not all about, but like the starting point was like the thing that most, it pops in most people's minds is that like, some people can be really vicious in comments. And it's very, very rare, but I mentioned how like I saw a really, like terrible comment not too long ago. And that one's like an 11 on.

That was an 11. When you see the 11 on 10, it ruins your day. But then you get the letter from the person who's like, I'm through. Fuck that. You meet some of the people on the floor. And they're just like, thanks bro. You're just like, I'm super uncomfortable. This is a lot.

Yeah. No. Well, the point being that you got them through a really rough time and it's just, fuck all of those comments. They just disappear. They're gone. You just get that like, oh, touching my chest now. It's like, oh, my nipples.

Yeah. And then like, and then the business side of cons. Your nipples aren't on your chest. No. They're somewhere else. Not mine. Right now. The business con where it's like, oh, people try to pull your YouTube video down when they

have nothing to do with the content or whatever. And Angry Joe definitely had a lot to say about that. Yeah. Yes, he did. As you can imagine, you know. But it's nice when you get to do shit like make your own website, hooray. Mr. Goomba out there, Gaijin Goomba had a fucking great speech that lasted like, what, a minute or something?

And it was just like, yeah, he's telling the truth right here. He's talking about just don't give up. Keep at it. The only way your channel ever ends is if you give up. Yeah. It was a better speech and he spoke it really well. Well, because you have this, it's always the image of you go to the channel and it's like the last updated video is guys from now on, every week, new content from here on out.

And that's the last video. Four years ago. And then, yeah, then after that, well, that's when it all really began. That's when the magical evening begins. That's where it all started. So I had in contact with Shane from did you know game and he's like, yo, I'm hanging out with John Chon. Do you guys want to get a drink somewhere?

We're like, no, we're too cool. Actually, I said, yes, we're not cool. Please hang out with us. We need this. So that was the plan going in. Yeah. And it was basically bored down to we went to a shitty bar. We don't want to go to that.

Do you know a bar? And I asked Luke, one of the, our handler at the staff of Conbrow. Do you know whether there's a good bar? He goes, you want to go to the anchor bar? That's where you might want to be in a couple hours. So we let John Chon and Shane know and then we show up and it just happens that almost every single guest. Every single guest.

Exactly. Everyone was hanging out. Every single Joe was there. Pathy and he almost like a quiz there. Yeah. All of you said it was arranged by our friend Shane at Screenway. Yeah. So pictures were ordered.

And yeah, we just shot the shit. And I mean, like I got to, I sat down like with angry Joe and I'm like, I just, I have to get this out there. No, no, no. You went to me and you said, I'm going to talk to angry Joe about this stuff. And I was like, okay. Well, because Matt told me about that. And I said, I already did that.

It's like button on the fire button goes real bad. Yo, angry Joe is like shitting on Marvel ultimate Marvel three because he's like, ah, they just threw it at us there. It's a fanboy thing to do. Yeah. I know. But it was also like, I'm going to be a human and have a conversation here, but I got to find out.

Right. Because he didn't like Marvel. He didn't like ultimate Marvel. He thought it was like a really just like cheap update type of thing and gouging the money. So I sat down and I'm like, okay, all right. I'm going to fight the good. Here we go. I need to know what's up.

Marvel three. He's like, oh, you're coming at me too. You're coming at me too. All right. He pours his drink, you know, whatever. And then just fast forward to later and match like, so in summary, he's just like, well, simultaneously being like really charming. No.

So it's just like, you do it back to him and you're both just going. And it did basically the same thing. So what's your stance on the new Godzilla movie because your review was kind of like, and he goes, well, I'm a huge Godzilla fan too. I am too. And then I'm just back and forth and it just wound it up with. Yeah. And then exactly.

And then we transitioned into like those like the comics, what's going on with the bat, the Superman Batman movie and all that shit, whatever. At the same time. Yeah. You and Shane were talking and then John Tron rolled in. Yeah. I mean, me and me and and fish from team four star and other Joe or shared a special moment of loss.

Yeah. All of the fucking stuff. All of the dudes I just mentioned. Fantastic. Awesome. Hilarious dudes. It's a shame. Brett had to leave so early.

Oh, to love. Kids know that too. Well, because as you said, it's really nice to meet your colleagues and find out that it's all the same deal. That you all you've all come in with like, yeah, yeah, we're faking it till we make it. And we're just secretly all pieces of shit. My kind of scumbag. This is my kind of scumbag.

So yeah, rubbing the elbows, having some fun and then and Brent knows the pain of baldness. Sure. Sure. It's important. But he takes it with with grace. More grace than me. He's not holding on, man. You just got to go for it.

I was really glad to meet Pat, the NES punk. Back and forth about Mr. gimmick for a little while. Because that game is like the best game on the NES. Beyond its time. Yeah. I got to I spoke a bit with Pat a little bit later because he had like a little mini boost set up with some of the stuff. And I was like, oh, it'd be great to actually buy a game off him.

And I was like, oh, he's got like old NES stuff mostly or or turbo graphics things. I was like, ah, but I saw one game where I was like, oh, we can do something with this bullshit. And we'll hear more about that. Yeah. Yeah. He's really nice because we also met him at Ed Magfest and he was like, uh, really really, really humble.

And he was like, hey, do you just want a DVD? And I was like, sure. I'll take a DVD. He's like, oh, cool. Oh. And I'll give a special shout out to Shane, who I finally got to run into. Shane from Digino Gaming. Yeah.

That dude is awesome. The boy's he British. He's super British. Oh my goodness. Yeah, yeah. Don't tell him that. Step up for upper lip the whole night. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And Satch. Well, I was about to say. Satch kicked Satch. Satch walked in the room and like, it was almost like we were in the middle of talking about how it's like, hey, Willie, you realize you're, you might be the only black guy in like this whole thing right now, like almost like LP in general. Yeah. And then like Satch came in and sat down at the table and then from there it got way

worse. We just, we just dug a hole and kept going. So we beat the bar because the lights came on and everyone's rolling out like, all right. So what's going on? And Liam and Matt, you guys peaced out because you aren't, you aren't scumbag night owls. Like Willie and I. So we just, You guys were crashed after like the, the autograph session.

Yeah. Like at least you were all dead and I was fine. But then I, then I crashed and then you guys were like, you know, still ready to go. Well, alcohol gives me strength. So it worked. So we just like, after like just whatever, yucking it up in the lobby with some, Yeah. So then James Ronald comes over and just says, yo, I got more booze upstairs.

What's going on? Right? And, and we've been, Pat and I were in the middle of talking to two resays or whatever, you know what? One resend, one re-co. Who interchanged. Who interchanged the next day and so on and just kind of were like, okay, let's just get on the elevator.

Let's do it. One up to John Chon's room and, oh my God. Like set the sex. The sex. Magically. Crazy. Magically. It's the kind of magical evening that hotel staff know as I had to go to those guys' room

twice and tell them to shut their fucking mouth. Knock, knock on the door. Yeah. So not only did I mix my, my beer after my, my beer before my liquor, I was never sicker. Yeah. You know, I got that. So that was a magical, wonderful experience. And then we, we ended up crashing at like five in the morning.

We wake up and you look at me and you look like shit. Oh yeah. You look like death. Oh yeah. And you look at me and it's like, how you doing? I'm like, I'm fine. It's the first time you and I have ever encountered the scenario in which you're the one who went overboard.

Sure. So you did have that hour long thousand yards. You, but then later. That's when we leave because you just didn't sleep. That's cause I didn't sleep the whole weekend. Yeah. And the thing is, is well, after we got back to the room from the magical night as it was.

Yeah. We walk in, you guys. Which of things that can never be repeated with an on mic anywhere, by the way. We can never talk about what was set up. Unforgivable magic. Yes. Um, but like we got back in the room, you guys were passed out and we were like, I took my shoes off and then you just look at me and it's like, are you tired?

He's like, no. So we just went back down to the lobby and just kept going, you know, yucking it up more and then angry Joe came in from who knows where the fuck. I don't know how he does it. He just spent 16 hours in the, in the fight to get to con bravo. And when he showed up, he looked like he was going to die. And yeah. He just wanders in off the street at four, probably four, four, three in the morning

just like, yo, what a party at, you kind of thing, you know, and so yeah, everyone was just, it was that Saturday night con thing where you're like, we're not, why even try to sleep? It's not going to happen. No. Fuck this. And then we slept. Yeah.

And we got there. Everyone that has been mentioned gets much love from me. Yes. Like what a fantastic experience. Scumbag love. It was as if you should have gone to all the others. It's almost like I agree with you. And then what do you want?

You seem so unsatisfied with me saying you were right. Cause I'm right almost all the time and it's rare I get that. So that was, that was a pretty packed room and like afterwards the next day when we were going heading into the con and we kind of hear that some people were not able to make it out to their own panels and Pat and I just look at each other like, we're responsible for that a little bit. Maybe. Like we didn't have anything to do.

Yeah. Sorry. But beyond that, fucking great times. Actual good times. Actual good times we're had. Rare footage. And as my first personal experience doing this kind of thing, meeting the nice people. Yeah.

And I'm not talking about the people we're just talking about. I'm talking about the people who are like, I like your show. Awesome. Yeah. Rare. Well, and we talked about this afterwards too because like you and I do have the same sort of thing where it's like, okay, you've got that, whatever you want to call it, like introversion meter where after a point of interacting with humans, it just, it's empty

and you're like, the corner needs to be held down. Everyone needs to disappear for a while. I need to go home. There was a point in which when I split off from you, Matt, I remember I said I was going to chill in the hotel room and just hit in the bathroom for 40 minutes. Sure. Sure. No.

That's on the phone. So even if you guys came back in the room and have to do with you guys. Yes. Well, I mean, like, like for me, I can just go play Street Fighter. Yeah. You know, and that's good enough. Like I'm just not in whatever. And then you recharge, then you're back out there and everything's great.

So yeah, man. Cons are fun. Cons are fun. You guys should go to more cons, maybe. We should go to more cons. I'm thinking of going on a talk with them. I was just telling you guys. Fucking big band.

Big band. Yeah. We met. Big band. We should point out, there's a lot of fantastic cosplay that we saw. Like the reset and the re-go that we just mentioned, fantastic. But big band? Like that was it.

That was it. So the best part about big band is you told me that there was big band walking around. Yeah. Right? And I said to you because I'm a smarmy shit. Like, ah, does he have a trumpet underneath his jacket, like an asshole, right? And then you later tell me when you ran in a big band that he, in fact, had a trumpet underneath his coat and he whipped it out and could fucking play.

And so like, my fictional douchebag scenario. The prologue to this was him walking up to me saying, I heard you guys want to see my costume. Yeah. Word made it around. And I'm like, shit, what is your costume? And he's like, I was a big band and I'm like, yes, you want to see my costume. So we made plans.

We met up with them and it was, it was, we got, we got some good shit. And like later on when we're just talking, he's out of costume or whatever. I'm like, yeah, cool, man. So I didn't get your name, by the way, and also he's like, no, I'm big band. I'm like, really? That's that. Yep. Yep.

So he is big. He doesn't want to ruin the magic. There you go. You don't want to break it. So he's in my phone as big band. And that's that. You know what I mean? Like tons.

You just call him over your house just so you can stare at him. What did you guys pick up if anything? Oh, shit. I picked up a bunch of shut up and jam for the genesis. Yeah, I grabbed the new Brian Leo Malley book seconds, which you told us about on the way there. Yeah. Because I bought it like a day before.

So I was on the way there. And he's like, this just came out and we were like, yo, we got to get this on the way back. He's like, it's, it's okay. I might as well talk about it right now, but like, yeah, it's the creator of the Scott Pilgrim's new book and it's, it's interesting. It's got some interesting stuff that the middle part is just like he has all these ideas and they're just kind of all mixed and muddled and I didn't really like it.

It felt very scattershot, but it still has charming, really charming art and it has a nice little lesson at the end, but it feels like the lessons a little shallow, let's say. But I'd still recommend it if you're a fan of Scott Pilgrim and there's a nice little cameo somewhere in the hidden in the book. And that's why I wanted to like see if like, you know, if you'd like lost at sea because you said that's way different. It's way different from Scott Pilgrim, but it's like similar in Scott Pilgrim in like tone or bed.

Okay. I'll find out soon enough, right? We will both come back with our words on that. I picked up almost no merch. The only merch or items I came back with was Rancid Yogurt's fantastic killer is dead print of us, which all of us had to buy on the spot like my own ass. I need it. She sold out.

I know she sold out. But like within the Friday. She sold out. And they eat fantastic like liver destroying them all. The fantastic liver destroying beer mugs that were gifted to us by the Con Bravo organizers themselves. Yeah, it's very nice of them. That fucking beer store.

I don't know how much to thank them for because you got the distinct impression when they gave it to us that they were doing so just to watch us fight over them. But the boxes didn't say our names. Because it was basically like here you guys go. You can exchange or grab whichever ones you guys want. Here you go. Five. Five.

Five cameras come out. Yeah. Fight for them. Dance, monkey. Say my name. So I didn't quite say it slower. I didn't quite realize till I got home how destructive this mug is going to be because it was like three times the size of a beer mug.

I put it down with my glasses today and I was like this is four times bigger than any glass. Four times bigger than the size of a mug because mine's Legend of Zelda. Mine is Mega Man E-Tag. Mine's got a cactuar on it. Mine's the Lambda symbol from Half-Life. It's a good chip, man. Yeah, it's very nice.

That's also a lot of juice. That's a lot of water. Yeah. You know. Or beer. Or poison. Yeah, you get a lot of poison. Okay.

Absolutely. Well, beer is poison. I was able to snag a shitload of really terrible games like this motherfucker, the first thing he does when we get down to the dealer's room is he runs away and comes back and says, hey, Pat, hey, Pat, check this out. I found the Friends Game. Yeah. A game that I didn't know existed.

A Planet of the Apes, Blade One, Iron Man for the, like, lots of stuff that you'd expect us to play. Yeah. And like, one or two things. A couple of punchline games. A couple of punchlines. I got a Punisher comic, which I'll talk about in the last show. You wish I'll talk about it on a later day.

It'll be in the video for sure. And some, I got another print from Rancid Yogurt, which is an awesome little Hotline Miami thing. Yeah. And I got another print, which is the PSA from Canada. Don't put it in your mouth. Of course. I had the two, like, brother and sister, like Jim Henson characters, and they said, don't

put it in your mouth. Well, for American listeners, or UK listeners, or Australian, or what have you. Other people. It is a Canadian PSA from the 90s, and we are not fudging this. Yeah. It's literally called, don't put it in your mouth. You can easily find that at your nearest streaming video site. It is fantastic.

It is horrifying. Don't stuff it in your face. Speaking of stuff, it might not be good to eat in our face. Like a muffin or a beet. It might not have a good muffin. It might not be good to taste. You could get sick. Ick.

Ick. Real quick. Ick. Real sick. Real quick. Don't put it in your mouth. So always ask someone you love before you put anything in your mouth. Always ask someone you love.

That's the stinger for me. So Matt, it seems like over the weekend, possibly, and maybe before, I do recall you receiving some Oreo gifts from some people. I also remember you, like, hiding Oreos in the hotel. Well, not hiding them because two fans gave me two different boxes of Oreos. One just regular Oreos. Thank you very much. And the other one, which is the American Exclusive Watermelon Flavored Oreos.

Which were really interesting. Which were very interesting. And when I got home today, I noticed that I had received a package and I had ordered myself four packages of limited edition American Oreos because I thought, hey, on the podcast we usually take a little taste test, so why don't I try to kill these motherfuckers today? So are we doing this then? We're doing a little bit of a taste test. If we're going to do a taste test, we got to do it right.

We got to get glasses of water. We got to get glasses of water. I already got a glass of milk right here, Pat. I'll take a milk. So we're going to just cut this right here and come back. No, we're not. We're not going to cut it? Why would we do that?

Why would we cut it? Well, I don't know. Matt's going to get the glasses of water. Pat. Pat. Pat. We are professionals at wasting time. And we will waste time until Matt finishes the water fucking off.

This is like taking the cameraman into the gorilla position. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. No, we don't cut here. No. Sometimes people ask me how much is cut from the podcast. The answer is like nothing. I cut when I have to put the ad in the spot.

And then that's it. And that's easy because you usually say here's a word from our star sponsor. Exactly. No. We keep it in there. So we're getting the milk. The milk has arrived. It's already here.

We've got the Oreos lined up. So to be fair, to the first one, take a little sip of milk because you're going to have it with the rest of them. So what we have is Reese's peanut butter Oreos. So we're going to start with this one. Two percent milk. Two percent milk? Or is this one?

This is skimmed. This is skimmed. Yeah. Yeah. I can feel it. It's the one that's actually not terrible for it. Sorry. What are we starting with?

Peanut butter Oreos. You can either eat the entire cookie or just take a bite. I suggest taking a bite. Yeah. I was going to go for the whole thing in one. So Reese's peanut butter cup Oreo. Okay. Okay.

Test. On a basic level for smell. It smells like a peanut butter. It smells like a Reese's peanut butter. That's peanut butter. All right. We're going to go. I know this thing Reese's peanut butter.

Try to get another peanut butter. Now there's a divide down the middle in the cream where there's chocolate on one side and peanut butter on the other. You want to get half and half. So you want to get half and half. Let's go. Let's go. That is a crunchier, milder Reese's peanut butter cup.

Absolutely. Accurate. I don't taste much Oreo to it, but that's the point. I think there's no Oreo to this. I would rather eat just a Reese's peanut butter cup. These are great. Yes. But Reese's peanut butter cups come in a package of three or two in the States.

How many Oreos are in this bag? Like 20. Yeah. Yeah. So when you're just like, fuck, fuck it all. I don't know if you're just like, I need an alternative to pirate cookies. Yeah. When you're like, I can't make breakfast and you just pour out a bag of cookies on the

floor and eat them like a disgusting pig. Yeah, we've all been there. Yeah. No. Okay. Again, it's not bad, but I wouldn't go for it. I would just go for Reese's. But nonetheless, it does taste just like a Reese's peanut butter.

It does. Not a hint of Oreo. This is weird. This is the kind of cookie I wouldn't even rate on a number scale. I would just rate it as like works as advertised. Eat it. Eat it. It's good.

Totally good. All right. Next we have is the banana split. Oreo. Oreo. So it looks like it has banana cream and some type of strawberry cream. Well, and it's got like, oh, oh, and it has chocolate and vanilla cookie part. All right.

All right. So it looks like a Neapolitan ice cream. Exactly. That being said, it is banana split. Yeah. So the top of the cookie, one side is the chocolate Oreo, the other one is the vanilla. Oh, this smells bad. That smells bad.

That's like, that's strawberry-ish, but artificial strawberry. And the banana smell is like, you know how watermelon smell can be good? This fake banana smell is intense. Yeah. So top side of the Oreo is chocolate, bottom side is vanilla, in the middle you got half banana. Half strawberry. All right.

Let's go. Let's go. No. No. No. No. No. No.

No. It's good. Give me the milk. This is one of the most artificial cookies I have ever tasted. Yeah. You just said no, but ate the second half. Well, yeah. I'm not gonna throw it out.

The cream filling tastes just artificial. This tastes like the fakest- Anywhere near is good. This tastes like the fakest piece of non-food I've eaten in a while. It's plastic. I don't think it tastes bad, but it does taste synthetic. But it's going to be. It tastes like the smell of that, of the scented plateaus. It tastes like the cookies of those chewy, gummy, banana things that come in the bag.

But scented plateaus taste awful, but if it didn't, it would taste like this. The smell of those is the taste of this. So I feel confident saying that for the moment the Reese's is way out in the front. Very much so far. Yeah. But just the Reese's. Yeah. You can't even really taste the cookies of the banana.

Absolutely. You can't taste it at all, man. Like, it's just the banana fakes so strong. So I got to preface this next one. I'm looking forward to this one. I'm not. So we've got two bias tilts here. I don't like marshmallows.

I hate marshmallows. Oh, spoilers. Wow. History's greatest monsters right on the podcast. I'm the kid who would like the marshmallow because I enjoy the char more than the marshmallow. You can get into. This is marshmallow crispy and has a large picture of our Rice Krispie Square. As covered this weekend when discussing foods, we can't even get into, like, this type of

food I hate and you don't like it, whatever, because all it takes is one bad experience as a kid and you're done forever. What type of bad experience has ever happened with marshmallows to anyone ever? I ate one and I was like, ew. If you look on the package, you'll notice. I ate one and felt sick. You'll notice it's not just marshmallow. So will he confirm for not having a childhood?

No, Matt. Again. Hey, buddy. So welcome to my world. Did you look on the cover? Mushrooms on pizzas? You'll notice that it's not just marshmallow, but there's actually crispy rice inside. It's crispy rice inside.

Well now, on the board, is marshmallows as a component of a different food I can get on board with. But out on their own? Mmm. So this is just vanilla, Oreo, cookie parts, and some white, marshmallow-y looking green and crisp. It doesn't smell particularly unique. It smells like a cookie.

It smells a bit like a Rice Krispie square, actually. But milder. Much milder. Yeah, you're not wrong. And some regular Oreo, too. All right. Let's go in. Mmm.

So that's what it is. It's the flavor of a Rice Krispie square. Not marshmallow. Yeah. You're right. I think there is no marshmallow in this one. There's no marshmallow taste here. It's the taste of marshmallow as an ingredient.

I think that's good. In Rice Krispie Square. I can get behind this. I can get behind it. It has a lot better than I thought it was going to be. I was good. Oh, look at them. Oh, God.

Yeah. Okay. I can't believe people are listening to this. It's literally a Rice Krispie square flavor, but without the Rice Krispie square. It's your bit, Matt. I know. You don't get to say that. Hey, I'll listen.

No, I'm the only person that gets to say that. I listen to like a full year of energy drink taste tests. It's a lot less descriptive than this. That's really true. And lastly, we've got this long. What is this one, Matt? Because please tell me the story here. The story is that someone at Nabisco is fucking high.

Oh, and why is that? Because this is lime-made flavor cream Oreo. Limeade. The green cousin to the lemon. So it's a vanilla Oreo with like a top and bottom. Instead of lemonade, it's like a limeade. With a green filling. So if you thought banana split tasted artificial, I can only imagine what the limeade is.

This is either going to be our favorite or the worst. I know it's going to be the worst. First of all, the cookie looks gross. Yes. It looks like a green tea cookie. No, it doesn't look appetizing at all. It looks like poison. It doesn't smell.

This one really doesn't smell like mushroom. It doesn't smell like mushroom. All I can smell is the cookie cookie. Exactly. It doesn't smell like mushroom. Oh. That is so fake. That is so fake.

What an artificial flavor. I feel like I'm eating old icing. I feel like I'm eating toothpaste inside of an Oreo cookie. The shitty thing is it tastes like limeade. And limeade always tasted like toothpaste. All right. I think it's interesting, but it shouldn't be a fucking cookie. All right.

Not a cookie flavor. Now that being said, all being fake and shitty. Not the worst. Not as bad as the bad split. Yeah, I agree. That one is something else. So we're going to move an ass split at the bottom for sure. Yeah.

Followed by this, the green one. Yeah. The limeade. I think these aren't terrible either. That's a strong aftertaste. Yeah, it is. That one's coming back. That's why we got these milk chasers.

It's coming back. I don't taste like the limeade ones. I eat more of these. Okay. I eat more. They're not in the bad zone for me. I wouldn't say bad. I'd say it's number three.

I'd say that number three and number two are close with the marshmallow one and the limeade, but I prefer the dry specific squares to that. And the Reese's is clearly way out in front. Yeah. That being said, I'd rather still eat a regular Oreo. Yeah. Now for me, I think I prefer the marshmallow ones a bit more because I like the lighter flavor than the strong taste of the Reese's.

But like those two are the clear winners. Yes. In my opinion. Exactly. So we can agree on the order. For me, I would draw a line in the middle where I'd say I would not purchase three and four. I would purchase one.

So it's like Mario Kart when you're below that line, you lost. Yeah. And then you don't go on to do one. So on your palette, would those be bad? Bad. Okay. Yeah. So I would actually put the marshmallow above the Oreo because I knew I know in my head,

sorry, the Reese's because I know what that tastes like. I tasted it. And there's just generally peanut butter Oreos that also exist. Yeah. So I don't know it's perfect. And pirate cookies also exist. And I expected the marshmallow to be like nothing or bad. And it's not.

So it kind of exceed my exceed expectations. I do quite like it. I'm going back for a second one because there you go. But I got to say, despite all that, I would rather just have a regular Oreo. That's why they're limited edition. Yeah. I'd rather have a vanilla regular Oreo. Okay.

That's me. You like chocolate ones? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's so terrible. You are a large baby about chocolate.

I really hope we don't have to run an ad right after this. We don't. Oh, good. We're good this week. Which is hilarious because the week before this we didn't run one and this we're going to run one and I'm seeing some feed cat feedback. People going like, I'm kind of bummed when there's no ads. I need to know what product you're going to slam this week to make another product.

Look good. I need to know you guys. Yeah. We'll be back with more soon enough. Don't worry. With that being said, I guess we can get into game news. Wait, what? Is that what we do now?

Liam, the first half of the podcast is bullshit, but then we have to get to the truth facts. Yeah. Because people need to know. And we are here on the front lines. So you are relatively close. True games journalism starts. I as the arbiter of truth. You need to sign off.

On what's going on in the world. Anyone calling themselves the arbiter of anything? It's the arbiter of bullshit. I was about to say unless you say you're the arbiter of bullshit. Even then though. The arbiter is something that is bestowed upon you. No one calls us all that. So what do we got this week?

We can start big because we didn't have a lot of stories, but we had big ones. Are we going to talk about the big one that we've been talking about like the whole weekend? We might as well open it up. Not so much length, but more girth. Yeah, lots of girth to this story. Not much length. Yawg Ventures got canceled. What exactly happened?

What exactly is Yawg Ventures? Yeah, exactly. So from the very beginning. The Yawg's cast. I get a date in there too because the date's crucial. Unfortunately, I don't have the last date. Great. So the Yawg's cast is a very popular YouTube collection of different...

They got a big off of Minecraft. They were there right when Minecraft was nothing. And they got a hold of it and kind of both of them pushed the other. Yeah. Look at us. Less popular than they are describing who the Yawg's cast is. If you know us, you probably know who they are. Probably.

So they ran a Kickstarter. They're the reason all those people kept asking us to play Minecraft. Good job. So they ran a Kickstarter. Back in early 2012. Was it May or... Anyway. And mid-to-early.

I remember the general dates, but not the specific dates. Exceeded all of its funding and because the goal was basically let's make a Minecraft-esque sort of adventure game. But better. With the Yawg's cast. Cast. Which is pretentious. Whatever. Besides the point here.

Yawg's cast. Characters. It's what they're well known as some of the biggest Sega IPs ever. Yeah, they did make it into the Sega All Stars Racing. That's true. Simon. So that completed and more than doubled its original goal. It hit like 570 or something.

I think the number was 570. And the release date for this project was supposed to be December 2012. So... I didn't know that part of it. Yes. That's aggressive. That's a red flag. Right off the back.

Six month development time. And it was hugely ambitious. You look down the checklist. This was really ambitious. So that was a red flag at the time. But nobody seen it. But whatever. I didn't hear about the red flag-ness of it at the time.

Now it needs to be said that we're giving this story out based on what's currently happening. But there's a lot of back and forth constant updates going on as we speak. There's a lot of he-say bullshit. We're gonna date our information because we were at Con Bravo as relevant up until like Saturday. We were in the airport. We were in the airport going home and we were still getting updates. And then I did a little reading this morning to just see where that was at.

But I guarantee there's probably gonna be more by the time you know. So as of last week, the game is cancelled. It fell through. Development just went tits up. It wasn't gonna happen. That's a goddamn shame on its own. Especially since it's fucking super late and cancelled. So they got a developer called Winter Cool Games.

And it seems like they basically handed them all the money. And said take care of that. And that was about $520,000. Then there was a relatively gigantic snafu in which $35,000 was paid to an artist for the game right up front. So also that they're under $490,000. And then that artist quit the job two weeks later to go work somewhere else. Yes.

Yeah. Jesus right. Yeah, he quit to work somewhere else. And they kind of realized shit. We didn't set up any contracts or anything to kind of stop people from leaving the project after the game. Winter Cool. And the guy in charge of Winter Cool said that was my bad.

That was no foresight. That throws up in a red flag in the sense that these guys are not experienced at all. Yes. And he's made a public statement. He came out and said this is my bad, this is my bad, this is my bad. And basically he saw the bus coming and took the other people out and laid down underneath it as he should. That being said though.

There was a detail that arose during this process. You could say 150,000 details. That became extremely confusing. Which was that immediately after that snafu occurred. After the artist snafu occurred. After the artist snafu occurred and they realized they had no legal recourse to actually get the money back from that guy. The OxCast went, what are you guys doing?

Send us back the money please. We'll be handling that from now on. The Winter Cool disagreed with that and they kind of worked back and forth until the agreement was we're going to give you 150,000 back. And that's leaving them with under 340,000 to work on the game. Now 100K for that was to hire a full time lead programmer on the game. Which Winter Cool was missing from day one. Which is part of the reasons why the game tanks.

And the rest. It was like a huge oversight not to have a lead programmer when you start your game. We're looking to get one during the process. And 50K to establish and send out all physical based backer rewards. So that money is currently unaccounted for completely. The OxCast has come out and said we're really sorry about the game going under. But has also said that we don't actually have to fulfill your backer rewards. There's no requirement.

Which is objectively true. But pretty scum. But they're also saying that we're going to be doing something for the people who backed it. Well they sent out Steam Keys to something called Tug. They sent out Steam Keys to Tug was what they did. Which is a whole completely different game. Does it have anything to do with anything? No.

Is it a similar style of game? No. The people making Tug are who they're working with now. Okay. So that's apparently like this is the guys we're now on board with. And they're saying that they're going to work on something for the people who are backers. Not necessarily a direct refund. But something.

I think the line is you'll get more than you expected in the long run. Which is kind of a huge bummer. The 10K guys. Well because the first thing, the first part of the comment that came out was you should direct your refund queries to Winter Cool Games. Which is horseshit. And Winter Cool Games says there is nothing here. Like they had less than $340,000. That's like seven employees across those two years at full time with almost no money.

And apparently the main guy, Vail, was doing the lead programmer job. But he said that like I was not supposed to be this guy. He's not a lead programmer. So yeah. And there was, it seems there was an actual product that was made. But it was nowhere near fit for. Not even so. The focus, the focus of the controversy as of this date.

Because it's constantly evolving. Like this could be out of date by the time it goes up. Is two fold. One is, okay. If you're not sending out the backer rewards. Where and what is the $150,000 that you got back from Winter Cool? Where is it? Yeah.

What's being done with it? And etc. Yeah, exactly. And what's being like, and the responses generally being. And two is why aren't you, like the two is. Yogscast has screwed this up from a PR perspective in the worst conceivable way possible. And said all of the wrong things. The phrase that Liam and I burst out laughing at in the airport.

Is we don't see any value into going into details of the situation. Well, that's what I was about to go. I get what that quote is trying to be. It's like we don't have enough information and it's too early. But who would write it and decide that? Exactly. That's the magic quote. What 10 grand in this Kickstarter.

I assume they find value in an explanation. Because what you got was that sentence followed by here's the bullet points of what went down. And there's probably going to be later this week after there's time to craft a nice statement. Here's what went down. But instead what we have right now is there's no value and we're not ready to make a statement. But it's like when you're dealing with people's money you have to be ready to make a statement now. The instant it breaks. But legal accountability makes everybody panic.

And everyone seems to be panicking. And it looks like on one's face this looks like the shittiest bullshit ever. Yeah. I don't think it actually is. It's most likely incompetence. But it looks like the shittiest. Here's what happens. Like explanations allow people to sue you in court.

They allow them to do that. But it also takes the public conscious which immediately assumes shady bullshit and it fights it back with knowledge. Of course. If you have good reasons. You have a good reason. But if you provide no reasons the default status is shady bullshit in everyone's minds. It's just trash that their opening statement is we don't have to fulfill backers. We're doing something different and we don't see any value in explaining the problem.

Now I wouldn't be surprised if we see a 180 later when it's like. Oh of course. You know we had the time to talk to some people. And they're just straight up here's the deal and you go oh. Wow. Okay. But right now. But right now.

Until that happens. The default status is brrrrr. Like Willy. Willy. You walk into your house. Tough times. And your girlfriend is naked and there's a dude in the room. And they go whoa whoa whoa.

I'm not ready to explain this right now. I don't see any value. But I guarantee it'll be worth it for you in the end. Also I need your house keys back. You know what. I was trying to find one. I'm not going to tag that. Let it go.

Let it go. I don't know. This also. You get the feeling that. Hey we're really big guys. We're super popular. Let's do a game and make sense. All the hipsters are doing great.

Hey you guys. Who are you? You're okay. You know about. All right. Here's some money. Okay. We're going to do our own thing.

And then. Nothing. And then. Whoa. What the hell happens. You checked in with you guys two years ago. And. You know.

You're letting me go. Yeah. The whole project just screams incompetence. They're not malicious. Like we're trying to steal money. No. Incompetence. I mean.

I think. It's easier to believe that. They're. They're looking at a spreadsheet right now. Going. Oh shit. Oh crap. That being said.

The lyrical guys were inexperienced. And didn't have the ability to take this under. Definitely. But they're straight up saying that almost. For sure. For sure. They're being very forthcoming. That's the weird thing.

Is that. How come no one really. Like. Saw that. Well. Assuming a lead programmer got on board when they should have. They could have directed things. You said a rolling start.

A rolling start. Before a rolling start to happen. There needs to be a gas pedal. Of course. Which is what a lead programmer. Perhaps. A wheel. Or four.

Or a wheel. Or a driver. Yawks cast $750,000 back to get a lead programmer. And they took that responsibility out of Wintercool's hands. Right. Fuck the wheel or the gas pedal. It's like sitting. It's a car there.

And the driver. There's no driver. The driver is a director. The lead programmer would be the gas. The engine. It would be the engine. The engine. The engine.

The Yawks cast guys. Like it's abundantly clear now that they have less than a clue as to how a game is made. So the pit crew had to get on line. Much like almost everyone. And they had to push us. We know everything. Yeah. Excuse me.

The pit crew had to push the car. And they hit the first corner. And then the car burst into flames. And no one needs an explanation for how that fire started. I don't see any use. And all the sponsors want to know why their logo is burst into flames. Yes. We did it.

We came up with two perfect analogies for the scenario. Yeah. So anyone who like backed that, that's foaming out the mouth. Right now. You're right to. That's righteous foam. Now, this obviously comes with the caveat. I remember when Kickstarter was getting big for games.

I was saying I can't wait to see the first big failure. Because it's going to be fucking bad. Well here it is. It's fucking bad. Not as bad as I expected. Not as bad as I expected. Because I expected it to be an actual game developer. To do it.

Now what I'm curious to see. I keep the double flying adventure to come out and be garbage. And it's not. And it's not. It's fantastic. As we put out in front of this, it's an ongoing story. Turn around on this. I want to see where this is going to go.

And like what they're going to do to like, I guess, bring people back. You know, they have a great plan for an even bigger thing. Or just, you know what I mean? Something that's like, you got to go, you got to get everyone back to zero. And then into the positive. Of course. It's got to be a huge. And pulling people out of the negatives is way harder than pushing them in.

Because of their history, maybe they'll just pressure their fans into watching. That flew over my head. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. The whole thing of them doing videos and then pressuring guys to pay them for the videos. No. You were the one who told me this.

I know, but like I look more into it and it seems just like more like a publicity deal. Oh, so you didn't read it right then? No. Okay. Never mind that then. Never mind. Joke redacted. But yeah, we'll, I guess, see where that story goes.

Geez. You got to be careful on Kickstarter. Some reason I think it's going to be completely finished by next week. Maybe. You got to be careful on Kickstarter folks. And folks means backers and creators. Absolutely. And people who are hiring other people to do anything.

The other thing about it is that there's two parties involved. But like when we were like, you know, involved in the Shovelinay Kickstarter, that was done by a small team of experienced game developers that have been in the business for like 10 years plus. That's like always a key thing. Not that that's an ironclad thing. That's why I felt really comfortable dumping money into all those RPGs because they were all from companies that had been making RPGs for like 15 years.

And just said we're broke now. Can you help out? Yeah. Well, and also those are like, it's not, how do I put this, the people doing that make video games. Yeah. Right? It isn't like, there's no middle man in between the game creation and the front end product

type of thing. So if there's a Kickstarter where you perhaps have degrees of separation to that, then there's perhaps more reason to worry sometimes. Again, let's see where it turns around. If it does turn around, we'll come back to that story. But ongoing and it's bloody. Yeah. No, definitely.

It's bloody if Best of Wish is to, what's the name, Andrew Hasee with the, with the house and the scenario. The Homestuck one. Let's hope it doesn't turn out this way as the similar kind of deal. Where you've got the IP. He's not a developer. They got the funding and then they got a guy. The fuck is Homestuck?

You tried it once, remember? I know. You already did this. I went to Con Bravo and I saw Homestuck and I was just hit with this powerful, like, what the fuck? Someone, someone asked me. I don't know what that is. Someone asked me.

Someone used this material. But it continues to be accurate. And people haven't had anything new. And people find it hilarious. A lot of the fans are like, someone asked me at Con Bravo, hey, how far in did I get before failing? And I'm like, I panel one. I'm assuming.

You mean panel one. Yeah. Is it a panel? Yes, exactly. No, you, you, you, you, you didn't do it at the logo. What are you, you're screaming at a screen? Like, like, you're looking at a, you're looking at a game and it's like pressed to continue. I don't know either.

And you're looking for like what button? And then you look at the controller and there's no buttons on the controller. And you're not wearing clothes suddenly. Everyone's watching too. Yeah. Um, so, uh, speaking of, uh, things getting bloody. Uh, how about, did you say bloody earlier? Just to say.

I don't think he did it. I don't think he did it. I don't think he did it. I don't have an impression. You can say bloody a lot though. Okay. It's a good word. Question redacted.

Especially since you're from England. You. Yeah. Secret British. Yeah. Well. How about those faith builds, you guys? Yeah.

Oh, that's on the thing. It is on the thing. Oh yeah. That Dark Souls patch is fucked up. So Dark Souls 1.08 has come out. That's 2.1. 2.0. No, Dark Souls 2.

2.1. 1.08. Yeah. I see. Yeah. Um, calibrations and. Some serious fucking calibrations. Obviously I can't recite that list off the top of the dome because I don't know what

half those things are. Miracles and all the power weapons got nerfed out the ass. It's the equivalent of a patch turning, uh, Street Fighter 4. Vanilla Sigat into Super Sigat and like nothing else in the game changing. And it's just showing up one week. Like imagine you were playing Street Fighter and then just the word came down next week because vanilla sigat would be terrible. And, but they've been teasing like some of the changes prior to this, right?

Yes. So there was a patch log that came out. Yeah, people knew what was going to go down to some degree. It's just like, I've never seen like such a dramatic rebalancing of this scale like right in the middle of the game's life cycle with no fanfare. And all the changes read like we weren't happy with the base game. Like we weren't happy with how this turned out because like certain like builds or whatever just ended up being so preferential.

So the hilarity is. Is that our LP is super fucked up now. It's more or less the direction we were gearing, which, which that's not true. It's not super fucked up. I mean, we just steer, we got to steer on to another fucking road somewhere else, right? You get to the fork in the road and you go straight. Yeah, sure. You see what happens.

Sure. You got a plan. I got a plan. Okay. We were talking about the game plan earlier. There's a game plan. My favorite part about this is there's a, I don't know if it's a bug fix or not. Like they seem to be calling it a bug fix, but it's not.

And it's they have removed, they've added a cap to the amount of souls you can get off of PVP. So, when I was like doing Dark Souls 2 footage tests, I ended up PVPing with a guy. It's the footage I sent you, Woolly. Yes. And I killed a guy and like got a game breakingly gigantic number of souls off of him. Well, it's a bug fix because someone wrote a bug for it and the programmer who fixed it, fixed it and it got put in as a bug fix.

Yeah. But they finally made it so the PVP can't, you can't. If you're super good. You can't just ruin the game up front anymore. Yeah. Well, I mean, like you fucking, you dropped into things with Twix to kill the guy and got 400k souls. Yeah.

It was, it was the force of the Giants. What the fuck? It was like right at the beginning of New Game Plus. It's like killed one guy. It wasn't good. It's like 400. Oh, yeah. Give me 12 stat points.

Well, I was looking, I was looking at the video to see if your guy would just start running in circles and all at that point. But the game just went off recording done. Yeah. Straight to fucking Majula. Yeah. Yeah. So we'll, we'll make those adjustments.

Hopefully the game's still good. Yeah. But that being said, you guys are not going to, of course, catch any of these until a couple parts. Yeah, yeah. A couple. Made on the old patch. Yeah.

The remain. We started the game a while ago. A while ago. Yeah. Pull the curtain back on, Willie. Curtain back on. Curtain back on. Curtain is back on.

Yeah. Still feels really great to play that at 60 frames per second. Boy does it. God damn it. Now. Oh, as to the people watching the Dark Souls 2 LP and I've noticed considerable juddering at certain points in the image. I should note that I figured out what the fuck causes that and have fixed it.

However, because we've recorded a couple of episodes. You'll have to stop her. It may take a couple to kick for that fix to kick in. It'll be, you'll have to look at the unwatchable videos. My apologies. I should have caught it. But it is fixed now. It's super minor.

You probably don't even. Why do we keep you around? Because of my boys good looks and dashing charm. No, it's because you have a powerful computer. Did I just say boys good looks and dashing charm? You did, yeah. That's what you said. No.

That's a bobline. And no, it's because of your powerful computer. It's because of my powerful computer. Except I didn't have that powerful computer when you used to keep me around. But then you got it. Then I was like, oh, I should keep him around. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, do you think maybe, maybe if the last of us was running at 60, then you'd be able to play it better? Yes, you would. Says Naughty Dog. Says Naughty Dog. Yeah. Have you seen those comments? I'm not Pat.

Well, maybe both of them say that. No, I thought you were going into the news story about Naughty Dog coming out and a lot of the devs saying like. Should we do a redux and see if you can do a little better? Oh, shut up. Shut up. Shut up. But you had Naughty Dog developers coming out and saying that now that we have last

of us up at 60, when we go back and play the PS3 version, it feels like a broken piece of shit. So granted, their language is a little nicer than that. Yeah. But they also then, in the same vein of that fabricated language, said if you want it to be a broken piece of shit, you can lock it at 30, you can keep it true. So that, that getting the point of why you would buy this. Well, it's a feature for people that are like, if you're a purist.

No. No. That's not, that's not what it is. Because if you go above 30, the frame rate is going to be unstable. No. No. No. No.

No. Come on. Okay. So here's what actually happened. You didn't get the second update, Naughty Dog. That's the reason why you do that and that's the reason why they did that. But then the frame rate was unstable at a really high frame rate. So they worked extra hard to get it at Rock Solid 60 and the, the option just remains

in the game. But that's what I'm saying. So the first why it was implemented. Yes. But that's all I said. But why it was implemented. But then they got the frame rate at 60. I'm aware.

So what's happening. So the current state of it now is you play, you put it on 60 and according to what they're saying, you got a Rock Solid 60, no dips whatsoever, but the 30 is in there if you want to run it at 30. If you wanted to feel like the PS3 version. So there you go. I think Bioshock did the same thing. Yeah.

Bioshock was considerably, of course, it was real unstable. But you know what? It's cool when like a console game has that because you can now use that as like a test for people to see. Yes. I did that a lot with Bioshock one, you know, you'd find some rooms where you know it runs like at 70 from second, but it's locked at 60. And I'd say I'm turning on V-Sync or I'm turning on the frame rate cap at 30.

So okay, how does this feel? They're not good. And then I turn it on. They're like, oh, okay. Yeah, I get it now. It's going to be a nice educational tool. Yeah. How much is that?

50. It's 54 in Canada. It's 50 in the States. Okay. They sent me a refund. Sorry. What? It was the same when it was announced at $69.99 and even though they don't have to give refunds

as according to their store policy, they actually were decent and sent out refunds. That's great. Nice. Yeah. Yeah. Like I'm not going to, I'm not going to clap for them because you're supposed to do that. But I wasn't disappointed. So that's it.

It was a surprise. Yeah. That's a nice thing for a company to do. You know, it's not a nice thing for a company to do. What's that Willie? It's 18,000 jobs unless they really have to. I know. Can I?

Can I? And oh man. Can I? Can I take offense right away? Where did you get the phrase release jobs? Where did you hear that? From an article. Yeah, but no, you got it from an article, right?

That's correct. And it was probably from a statement from Microsoft? That's correct. You don't release jobs. You fire people. You fire people. Yeah. Yeah.

Well layoffs as well as the term. That's that kind of bullshit corporate shit like downsizing where you're trying to get away from the fact that little Timmy's not going to eat you. Yes. You dehumanize the language. You're super right. You're right. I'm going to take that.

That's true. Hold that out. You're making it sound like it's not people getting fired. Yeah, we sold 30 trucks. There's a really good one. And 18,000 is a lot of money. My favorite is in the UK, they sometimes use the term redundancies. There was a redundancy.

Which is accurate. Sorry. Because yeah, you're doing the same job as someone else. Well, you have two guys standing at the same counter like there's no need. Right. And you're like, wait. But it really, really softens that blow of pack up your things. We've got too many queens.

Sell them to redundancy. Sell some of them. The story here is that Microsoft is firing 18,000 people. Which is so many people. Over the course of the next 12 months. Now it's like super across the board. Game companies and publishers release people. And they say release 12 people.

Ah, release 100 people. Woof. And you can even release 500 people. You're like, yeah. When you release 18,000 people, it's like, how are you a company anymore? How are you not a nation? That seems like a beautiful nation. The question, the answer to that is the division in which this happens to is gone.

I was going to say that I vaguely recall this being the second biggest employee layoff thing ever. Do you remember the first one? The second layer to the delicious shit sandwich here is there's one of the 18,000 employees are demanding the remains of Steve Jobs. So it's Microsoft's TV entertainment division, correct? No, it's all across the board. There's only 200 people in that division.

But one of these divisions, I remember reading that 75% of their workforce is gone and the 25% of jobs that remain, everyone has to reapply for them, which is brutal. That's horrifying. It's a comfortable way of them, like, you know, the best man wins, right, type of thing. TV, TV, TV, sports, sports, TV. We want you to re-establish why we hired you internally. Yeah. You know?

It's a shame that every firing on the Xbox side of things in these 18,000 all comes down to Paul Marketing fucking up. So that's the second part that is more relevant to our podcast, which is Xbox Entertainment Studios is going under. However, Quantum Break is okay. Allegedly. Good. I don't get it.

Remember Quantum Break? Quantum Break? Like half TV sections? Yeah. Quantum Break is why you bring up Quantum Break in general. As Quantum Break as a product is going to come out as intended and will be fine. And so is that Halo TV show. And the Halo product.

Yeah. I guess that's like enough along or something. Or it's done. Or it's Halo. Or it's Halo. All these are good reasons. Anything else that was not mentioned, which was just Quantum Break, is probably in trouble. That Marlowe breaks TV shows.

Oh man. What's there or anything else? I can't remember. Michael Jai White was on a contract. Considering there was 200 people working there, I'm sure there is some. Well, here's the thing though, like Matt's question has a lot of merit because the core reason why they said they were doing this is because this place never closes any deals. Like they keep getting 90% of the way there and then just the contract doesn't get signed

and the TV show doesn't exist. So no, there kind of wasn't anything else. That was like, you know, like there's probably a lot of stuff on the drawing board. But like this is good to go. I saw that Max sent out a tweet saying, oh man, I hope none of my friends that like none of the people like I know that I've talked to as Microsoft students that work on Killer Instinct are okay. I hope they're all, everyone's okay there.

And Ken Law just feedbacks that don't worry, we like Counter Broke. At least like John Farage, we're all fine. The pink slip comes at Ken and he's just like, God, I broke it! And sends it back to the guy and then he gets fired. And gets fired, the exact. Oh my God, if only. I vaguely remember, did Microsoft acquire Nokia like last year or something? No, they got the former president of Nokia running the Xbox division.

Elop? Is that that dude's name? That was Omar. No. There's Nokia in here. It's either the employee or they bought it. I remember reading somewhere that a lot of this was from a company they acquired. A lot of it's 18,000.

A lot of it was involving mobile things as well. Yeah, that is a big part of that crew. Speaking of Counter Breakers, I sure wish that fans could Counter Break cease and desist orders. Yeah. Oh boy. If you don't need to Counter Break combos that land after the match is over. You're right. You're right though.

Because that indignation I get for spot on with the analogies today. Whatever, we always go on about it. You got the awesome fan project, you put it out too early. You get CND and now you candy's gone. So you put it out? Bazow! You put out the project so that when you get CND, you're like, well I don't own Pirate Bay. Good luck with that.

And who's that happening to, Willie? Skyblade Cloud is basic. The guy's putting together the Type Zero translation. I want to make an addendum to that comment. I wouldn't say they're putting it together. I'd say they put it together. Put it together past tense, motherfuckers. And shipped it.

So this shipped right before they announced the PS4 and Xbox One version. Which took a lot of the steam out of the PS4 and Xbox One version announcement. Exactly. So we're to put it another way, like the fan translation hit days before the official word that you guys were going to get it. Way to just completely miss the boat out. And this is like a month after that. So now the guy got CND and he's like, yeah, so a certain game company, GI Wonder. I wonder who.

Watch it's like Konami. Has contacted us and told us that Final Fantasy Type Zero's fan translation needs to go away. So they had to take down all their shit. And they kindly obliged. Because it's too late. It's already out there. So what happened there is that Hiroshi Marketing was asleep at his computer. Didn't notice.

And then when he noticed, he told like Katamura Legal. You should stop this and they're like, oh, we will. Dude, this is out. Why were you asleep? Why were you sleeping? I'm a sleepy guy. We just lost 45,000 sales because of you. Why are you sleeping?

Yeah. And like this shit is like, it's like this is exactly why you should not talk about it until it's done. Of course. Because this is the scenario that everyone wants later. Well, not Paul, not Hiroshi Marketing or Katamura Legal. They don't want it. No, no, no. Those are going to be tough to remember.

They're going to change every time. Yeah. That being said, Yoshi, that's easy. You know, Square. What the fuck, guys? What the fuck? What the fuck? Your incompetence seems to know no bounds.

I hate to be that guy, but like this is what you get for not having a Vita version. Now we know. Oh, that's so much pettier than I thought it was going to be. It's so petty. Spoken like a true Vita. So petty. That being said. It ain't so, Vita.

I know. We know. It's so. We know that the legal family, right, has to pursue their copyright laws aggressively. Otherwise they lose them. If they're not pursuing, they're dying. Right. We know this.

It's like a cheetah. But still yet somehow other companies that see remakes like Rockstar, for example, will just be like, hey, it's cool. They'll hire you. And they'll congratulate you. They'll turn the official blind eye knowing that that risk legally is there, but it's like, come on. So it's not that they give like the okay.

It's they go down to legal and they're like, hey, legal, check this out. They start to drool. You know, you're going to shut the fuck up now. This guy is cool. You shut up. Yeah. But no, shut your mouth. Go look at your legal papers.

Yep. And like for a while, whatever you fuckers do. They write a eula. Here's a eula for you. Everything that Capcom was doing with like people touching Street Fighter branded stuff, you know, for a while was exactly that. It's like, you can't shit on the people that are holding up your product. But now Capcom have added the branding.

They're out there. You know what this is like? Yeah. This is like a fucking Kickstarter for a Mega Man board game. Yes. Capcom's okay with Mark. You know what this is like? Us going on a con bravo and seeing Rancid Yogurt's art of us and going, give me some

of that. Well, as I walked away and like we gave her a hug and everything. And as I walked away, I was like, this is awesome. It's great. You'll be hearing from our lawyer soon. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's pretty cool guys.

And also this is especially perfect because this, this problem only exists because of like an enormous five year long series of failures on Square Enix's part. Oh, absolutely. This could have all been avoided years ago. If you did a smart thing. You had so much time to fix your mistakes. If I had to take a guess. Yeah.

If I had to just throw out there a scenario, I would imagine that the literal developers and people making Type Zero could hear about something like that and be flattered. Yeah. Yeah. You know. It would be. Wouldn't you? Don't let, don't let Paul here.

Yeah. You know, I bet you that that's the case door. Yeah. Um, he can live without food. He has been. And like, and I guess if I get while we're talking about the whole counter breaker thing, you would hope that the same thing happens for Chroma Squad. Yeah.

Because. Oh, but that was dirt. That is the dirtest fucking bullshit that's happening with Chroma Squad. But it might be okay. Is it? It might be okay. Is it might? So Chroma Squad is.

Yeah. What's happening with Chroma Squad? Chroma Squad is the Kickstarter project. Oh, fuck this. Oh, this is dirt. Yeah, you're right. That was basically the tribute homage to Power Rangers, Super Sentai, Kamen Rider, all of them.

It's referencing everything in there. And the wonderful people at Saban. Ham Saban. Ham Saban. Um, came after them and basically. You said the word squad in your name. Yeah, well, more or less like you're using, you're using the Power Rangers, you know. Power Rangers shit.

And we, and it wasn't a cease and desist, it was a, we want royalties, right? Um, so for like, right off the bat, you chose like, we're not shutting you down, but you've got to get us in on this. Well, it was, we're going to shut you down if you don't. They literally bullied them into it. But they didn't see in D, right? No, but they said, we will sue you. They will sue.

They literally bullied them into it. Um, now the guys at Chroma Squad, you know, basically came back to them. They put out their statement about what's going on with that. Yeah. And this is why I'm saying it might be okay. Because the guys at Chroma Squad are being the most Zen motherfuckers about the whole thing. Because they're like, they're like, we're using the colors.

We're using the guys we know. We're also homaging more than just the Power Rangers. We're, it's, it's the whole genre. It's everything about it. Like Saban and us both agree that we want to stay the fuck out of court. So we're totally working towards a solution. And like, hopefully things go good. But right now we're on the same page with them.

So we'll update you soon. So, so kudos to Chroma Squad's developers for being cool. Double hate on Saban for being the biggest assholes in the universe. Because like, them taking this path is scummy and then winning and going down and successfully going down the path is even worse. Yeah. I mean, I'm thinking of like the Axum Rangers. I'm thinking of the, you know, the Sentai guys in Codhands.

Right. That did, you know, did anyone. You don't own the rainbow Saban. Did anyone get contacted at that point or were those companies just too big of a fish to, you know, to push around. So that Saban didn't necessarily have to come in and get his kite. I think it's because Japan knows that Sentai is everything. Yeah.

Because Chroma Squad has a whole Japanese campaign going on too as well. But like, like is, is, is like, is the creators of whatever who makes Super Sentai going to suit everyone who has a combining robot? Yeah. Well, yeah. No. Like for Saban to move equally of them into a situation where they even have to make this is the worst thing.

Fuck a world. It's, it's Terry. I think the reason why they're also doing this, because remember we talked about in the podcast on Chimanga how they're, they want a new Power Rangers movie and they sold the rights to a movie company or the licensees. So they're like doing more. Yeah. And it's still, it's still alive.

So it makes them more like bloodthirsty, get rid of any. Because the IP is active in the States again, you know. And I mean, like, again, the Chroma Squad guys though are basically looking at this, like, look, this was Kickstarter backed and they're, it's, it's almost done. So like, you guys realize that people will hate your company if you do this to us. But it's like, if you have to give them a cut, then it seems like they're like, we'll give them a cut and the backers will get their game. But that's why the situation sucks.

I didn't want to name my money going to Saban. I hear that. That wasn't what I signed on. But you know, okay. So yeah, I don't know. I see what you mean. That's what I'm saying. Right.

But like, the moral indignation is, is trash. Fortunately, we will get to play it. It seems like, and that to me is like, whew. But like the amount of money that's being, it's going to be drained from Chroma Squad and the company's future where they couldn't afford to make Chroma Squad. So they had to kickstart it and now they're losing part of their future. Maybe a guy will go without a job. Totally garbage.

Complete trash. Still a better future than not getting the game at all. Barely. You know, it'd be a better future if Saban wasn't a bunch of cunts. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. And plus that name is a guy.

Like that's the guy's name that owns the company. No, really? I'm sorry. No, it's the guy. It's the guy that brought over the Power Rangers. The guy that localized Sentai. And yeah, and made it no money Morphin Power Rangers. So, Saban and Eric Bowman.

Exactly. Can just drive in hell together. Just jack it together. Just jacking it together. I still say E-bombs way. Oh yeah. They're down the list. Oh yeah.

But they're both terrible. Yep. But like, you know, that's where we'll have to leave it, I guess. I'm just, I'm like, we're gonna get some play in. I don't think there's much more here than the bad feeling in my soul. I hope they can find a way to not give them a dime. Because it's the worst. I hope Saban's company burns down and no one gets hurt.

But the building is hurt. Exactly. The way I read that statement was we're working things out with Saban and we can't say a bad thing. Or else we've said a bad thing at them. Yeah. Like, that's the way I read that statement was as hostages with a gun to their head. Yes. Exactly.

It's like, oh, we're so close game, we just get the game out. Fuck it. Take the hit. Exactly. Even though it's bullshit. But sometimes when the word comes down from the man, the word is good. Every once in a while. Fuck the man, though.

Fuck the man, right? What? When the man is Google and the word is you can't say in-app purchase games are free anymore. That's pretty cool. Oh, I agree. That's so good. That seems like a really trivial distinction. But it's important.

But it's very important because the uninformed consumer mindset of seeing the word free next to a product has a lot of power. Absolutely. Especially when the consumer is a teenager or a six-year-old with their parents' phone. Yeah. So this is happening in the U.K. specifically. Yeah. U.K. does what America can't.

America can't. What America's too scared to do. I fucked it up. Super hard. Oh, yeah. But that's cool. We keep rolling. Genesis does was Nintendo.

Thanks, Obama. Thanks, Obama. Yeah, in the U.K. basically they're saying, I'm tired. All those games, anything that has an in-app purchase is now going to have to relabel itself. No longer quote-unquote free. Will not be categorized and will not be found under that section of the app store. Of the Play Store. That's great.

Now what they're just going to say, like instead of free, they're just going to say allow it. Allow it. Yeah. So now what you're going to get is ads of mobile games that show up in the U.K. first. And when they come over to North America or other regions, they'll have the phrase, now free for the first time since launching in the U.K. Or like bullet points like free-ish. Yeah.

Yeah. No, I hope that this is something that extends beyond just the U.K. Like this should exist here already. This should have been here since day one. We need to know what's F2P and what's B2P. Don't we, Lee? I know. The indignation I see of people who hate B2P games.

B2P. Buy to play is garbage. Those people have their heads on long. Oh my God. Yes, I'm being that guy. It's tilted just a little bit. I know. That's okay.

That guy's useful sometimes. Sometimes. Yeah. I'm usually that guy. You guys catch the Kojima interview talking about Mother Base and how the world's going to play. No, I did not. I heard about his wife.

Tell me about Mother Base. It's one of the really cool things. One, obviously, if you guys haven't seen it in Metal Gear Solid 5 Phantom Pain, there's going to be a big component of the game, which is you build a- You kidnap sheep. Yes. Yes. You do that.

They will show up at your base, actually. They will. And they'll be walking around. You build your Mother Base how you want. We don't know the full details of how customized you can get everything. But you're going to be abducting soldiers, vehicles, all that shit. You really get to build the struts, and each one is a different platform. Each hexagode is a different building.

Do the sheeps end up discovering the formula to Mountain Dew. They could. Or Calary Mate. If you put Mother Base itself good, there could be a whole lab where guys are putting stuff in sneakers. Yeah. Wow, way off the fucking track there. Mother Base, which you can walk around on.

Which you can walk around on. I'm just thinking of a fucking Metal Gear prototype with just a fucking Mountain Dew logo on the side. Yeah. Get in there. Get in there. Metal Gear Dew. I buy it.

Then the cockpit flies up, and Keely's in there. And he's just spraying dew at you, and everyone's like, yay, McDonald's. Wait, is this new Mother Base located somewhere else? No, they rebuild it or some shit. They're the same location. I don't know. We don't know. They have a sand.

As I was going to say, if a large portion of Microsoft takes place in Afghanistan, where the fuck is Mother Base? Well, it's got to be Zanzibar. It's got to be Zanzibar. Okay. I'm still thinking it's struts. It's in the water. It's on the water.

We don't know which body of water. Maritime law. Maritime law. Nothing can happen. It's off the coast of Nova Scotia, and every time a big boss doesn't walk on such a long flight. Maritime law into sky crimes, man. That's how we do.

No. You can customize your body. No, no, no, no. Whatever. What's going to happen is while you're doing this and fortifying your base, other nations are going to start hearing about you and not liking you or possibly liking you if you help them out, and there will be a whole subsystem of like- This is ex-com shit.

Allies and enemies, depending on your mission choices. Can I be friends with Canada? I don't know. It's important. Maybe. Canada's huge awesome military. They didn't say what nations. No, we don't.

We do have a military man. We have peacekeepers. And eventually it'll also have just an army. So you want to ally with the most non-military ever. I want Punish Snake to hang out with a cigar choppin' lady Canadian sniper. I'd invent Poutine. Mountain. Yes, yes!

I want it to be retconned that Punish Snake invents Poutine. Yeah. Sure. Sure. And that's why he goes into the coma. He had through her so good. These fries are dry. Let's get some gravy on them.

I'm already insinuated. So Miller's eating it. He's like, you can feel it in your fingers. Your arms. You feel it too, don't you? Yeah. And then they all go into comas. Poutine-based comas.

The nation- It's not insinuated that people attack mother base, right? Absolutely. Yeah. Because that's not- that could be not great actually. Because that reminds me of- Well. That reminds me of Assassin's Creed Revelations.

Well. Oh! Stop doing what you're doing and defend your base that's way over here. That's a- that's a thin line. No, they would do it like XCOM. And guess what? I hope so. If you don't want to be there, you don't have to.

You can fly out. Morpho will take you where you want to go. I mean, but if you don't take care of your base, does it- So, there's footage of guys attacking your base with Snake on the base. Yeah. Actually, and you're defending it. And one of the fun things you can do is you can falten anti-air guns and such from the ground and your guys will grab them and put them on the base.

So, actually, you can just add a bunch of reinforcements to the base just by going around and snatching stuff. Okay. And then they'll be able to defend themselves to a much better capacity. Yeah. So, again, I'm not sure how much of what you saw, but there's a whole subsystem of like, if you get into hostile relations with the nation, they might look at you and be like, we don't know what the fuck these guys are doing out here and we don't trust them.

Let's just go get it, right? Let's go take them. And they're going to be rushing you down. And if you have sufficient defenses in place, you don't even have to do anything, right? Right. But if you don't, then you might have to stop the invasion and so on and so forth. This can all escalate to a point where Kojima says you can potentially, as your own like almost sovereign nation, decide to get a nuke or not as a deterrent.

Speaking of which, I can't wait to see what happened with the nukes and Zeke. Like, I really want to know what happened to those, yeah. Because they went somewhere. But that's a whole thing. They started that in Peace Walker as well as like the beginning of nuclear deterrence as being the guy that says, I can press the button. It's like, yeah. It's like Metal Gear has had the theme of nuclear deterrence and it's obviously been from a

Japanese point of view of nukes are bad. Well, they are. Yes. To be perfectly clear. But the Japanese perspective of nukes are bad is considerably more personal than ours. But Pat, that's why this is interesting. And that's where I'm going with this. It's like having to look at a problem and seeing that nuclear deterrence is a bad solution,

but it is a solution to your problem. It's one of those things where it's like prison architect like that game where you get to see why a for-profit prison is like the worst possible thing ever. Because as a game player, you start cutting corners so you don't give a shit. Yeah. It's why papers please is great. Exactly. It's like when you insert yourself into the moral scenario, you kind of get there a little

bit and you're like, oh, this is jet. I got to think here. Yeah. And that's exactly what Kojima is looking for is he wants to put out this commentary on the situation and you can choose either route. So many players, please. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Fucking play that game. You can choose. No, I mean Kojima did. Yes. And you can choose either route. And I'm really, really hoping that the paths drastically diverge the story. You know what I mean? In some way.

Are you fucking crazy? No, just of Mother Base. Okay. Sorry. No, not the story of the fucking mainline game. The story of how your Mother Base like deals with situations from that point on. It's like from here on out, it gets really easy until, you know. That's really easy to tell for this whole thing from Mother Base.

So it makes me think that Kojima walked in and saw his Stooges doing something shitty and said, I'll take this and I'll make it good and I'll put it in my game, I guess. Now, this also leads me into, I don't know if you guys saw it. It's a Mother Base analysis video that came out. The guy's channel is young, yeah. And he put out just like a breakdown of like that half an hour thing. Like I'm going to compare this to the previous trailers and so on and so forth. And just put together what I can.

Full on analysis. Yeah. So what we can, and what he says, and it's all speculation, of course. We don't know how much of it's confirmed or not. But it looks like, remember the trailer, the original trailer where you saw all those scenes with people getting tortured and like writing the Metal Gear prototype, all that shit. There's also the scene in which Ocelot is clearly training dudes how to shoot their guns. Yeah, of course.

So those torture scenes are happening in a bunker on Mother Base. You're writing that Metal Gear on Mother Base, which makes me think you could possibly use it as a defense tool. It might not be in a mission, but as something you can build your base up to. I'd be surprised if you couldn't bring it on a mission. Because there are some things open world. Who knows, yeah. But that makes me think about those trailers a lot differently, which is like these horrible

torture scenes and stuff you're seeing are happening back at your fucking base. Of course. You know? And then you kind of put- What a bunch of heroes we are. Exactly. That's kind of the point. And then you put this nuclear deterrence thing on top of it, and you're smearing the ashes

all over your fucking face. And now you have a game that's probably going to make you feel really complicated inside. It's like on Mother Base they have the torture room. This is the room where you put ashes on your face. Yeah. This is the child soldier room. This is the child soldier room. This is the Mountain Dew room.

Make sure that- It's very important that children periodically move between the child soldier room and the Mountain Dew room. To charge them back up. A gamer feel like what I assume will be early on when you wake up and Kaz is a total fucking asshole and he's got child soldiers already. And you're like, uh, uh, yeah. Isn't that coma for a while, eh?

Exactly. But Master Miller does have to end up on the good side of things in the end. Oh, that's- Yeah, he does, actually. But you gotta take his coat. You gotta take his coat. And it's a non-story but related. Russia fucked up and put the child soldier's picture on the news.

Yeah. From the trailer while telling a story about a guy that used to be one. They thought it was real. It's hilarious. What happened before with that same- It has. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, but no, I think Metal Gear is definitely shaping up to be what I told you a while ago.

Just as good as the rest of them. What I told you a while ago, which is like, look, the more you tell us about how Big Boss becomes Big Boss, like the more I'm worried that you're gonna fuck it up. Of course. But what- how awesome would it be if you go- If they didn't fuck it up. You go the full route and then you morally turn into that guy. You get it, exactly.

And then you finally maybe approach that final battle where you're- The remake of Metal Gear 1 and 2 happened and you're Big Boss looking at the young snake. The young snake's coming up to you and you know why you did it. You know why you betrayed them. And then you're sad that you lost. This is good, isn't it? Right? Of course.

Yes. This is good. I hope it goes there. It's not gonna go that far. I don't know. Konami- The moral aspect, sure, but I don't expect that boss fight to happen. Dude, like Konami's fucking financials is like 25% Metal Gear.

That's not hyperbole. Like the fact that I'm smiling- Maybe you keep making it. The fact that I'm smiling this hard in a world where the boss was technically revisited is shocking to me. Cause that's like any other franchise and I'd almost be done forever. Because no, no more. It's perfect. But this is-

How are you still playing Assassin's Creed? Boats, that's why. Boats are new and fresh. You think? You know what else is new and fresh? What's new and fresh? Not Doom. Not Doom.

I can't wait to fucking see that game, holy shit. Instead, I will look at other people seeing the game. I will look at words of people that have seen the game. So I got super pissed. Did we even have the podcast when the Assassin's Creed 3 lead up was coming up? I don't think we did. No. Remember when Ubisoft showed Assassin's Creed 3 footage to people at PAX?

I remember. And all they would do was like interview people coming out and they didn't release the footage for like a fucking month or whatever. That's fucking bullshit. And this is bullshit. This is fucking bullshit. At least these guys didn't put out an interview video like that. Yeah, that was offensive. Cause that helped.

I mean it was rubbing your face in it. But I don't find this bullshit. I find this is just like they're trying to rub up a buzz. You know what I mean? And get everybody excited. And it's fucking working. Show the game. So the story.

We'll see it when we see it. I'm not bothered at all. I think it sucks. Like I'm not good enough to look at your trailer. No, you're not here. I don't believe they ever said that a single time. They say it with their actions. With their actions.

If I punch you in the face it says I don't like you. I think they said quite the opposite. Which is this is just a special treat for the people who are here. Yeah, that's it. Cause you're an optimist. And similar things have happened at EVO. That's exactly what they said. As well.

Things like this happen like people lie. They want to go like you guys are here. We're gonna fucking do something for you. And the people who aren't here. You'll catch it later. Exactly. No malicious intent. We're doing something cool for you guys.

Which you earlier said don't spoil it. We'll let them spoil it. That's true. Yeah, but I don't trust Bethesda. I don't trust Ubisoft. I trust myself. I don't trust Bethesda. I don't trust Ubisoft.

I don't trust Ubisoft. I'm sure they saw. Liam's leading back. But here's the difference. When they showed that smash trailer the next day after EVO. You guys complained it. Hey, Liam. Oh EVO guys should have seen it.

What a great marketing opportunity. Now, this is different. Now, we have to wait for God knows when. And to at least show the trailer the next day. We're complaining that they missed an opportunity. But there was a big audience waiting to watch. That there's a big audience waiting to watch. We're adults.

We're not actually going now, now, now, now, now. It's different. I am. Come on. It's not to me. Liam. No, because then smash was shown to everyone. Liam.

But how come no one gets to see this? This is a different circumstance. This is they showed it to a limited group. And now they're just waiting for the rest. Smash was just shown to everyone they want. Well, I'm saying how come we have to wait 24 hours to see that trailer. And then this is whenever. Nobody else saw it 24 hours before.

No, what I mean is that like in your scenario of if it premiered at Evo, and then the trailer was the next day for everyone. That's awesome. That's what I meant was I was hoping it would have been on stage at stream. Same thing, premiere worldwide for everybody, but just at Evo because it's a fighting game thing. It would have been hype. No, I understand that.

No delay between viewers. I understand that. And there was like, if that happened, that would be the ideal scenario. Of course. Showed to them. No, no, no. Everybody sees it at Evo, including the viewers on the stream at that point. That's what I meant when I said it.

At the Evo event, show the trailer at the thing, show it on stream, whatever. And then the next day release a trailer. And this like, if that's how that would go down, that would be cool. Everyone's happy. And this is like kind of just like show it to everyone. That's cool. And then the next day, no trailer. The next day, no trailer.

The next, I'm saying that that would have been cool if that imaginary Evo scenario, that's what should have happened during this Bethesda event. And now we just got to wait whenever Bethesda marking decides that I can watch the stream. So, Liam, I've latched on to the exact reason why this is different compared to our panel. I am not, or no one's going to spend $60 to buy the ability to watch our panel tomorrow. Dude, you'll see the trailer when you see it. They're asking me to spend $60 to... You'll see the trailer when you see it.

But is my money not as good as the QuakeCon? Are you, is your pre-order thing like, I'm going to pre-order now or never? So I'm not going to pre-order. Well, then it doesn't even matter. It's extra not going to now. I understand your point of view here. I find it funny just because like to me, like the news not hitting me right away is not going to make me get negative about it. I'm just going to be like, hey, it's cool they're doing this thing.

What if... But I'm not going to be like, this is bullshit, I haven't seen it yet because I mean, come on. It's like it's kind of an entitled attitude. What if I blew... I'm a consumer. I am entitled because I'm giving them my money. What if I blew your mind and told you that companies invite fans in to see trailers privately all the time? What if I blew your mind by saying that?

Do they put out statements saying it was so cool too bad you didn't see it? The company didn't put out a statement at all. This news didn't... They did not put out that statement at all. This is people that never talked about it afterwards themselves. This is not from Bethesda. Pat and I are still not happy about it. And you want to get Dune right away.

You are a fetus. But you guys really like Dune to the point where like hearing about the new thing is eclipsed by not seeing it right away. So the happy thing turns lame. That would be great when we get there. Look, what the happy thing we have. Liam, you're right. I am less upset. But I'm not upset at my core.

Sure. I don't know. We'll see what your company put out. X20T character action game trailer. You can't watch it, will you? I'll see it when I see it. That's an awesome thing to hear about. That sucks because that didn't happen.

And that would not be your actual reaction. Well, but no, I would not... Unless they never... I know, but I would never get negative knowing something I like is actually existing. So that's why I'm like... It's just a matter of patience as well. If they just released the game, that would be an issue. It's like I've been patient for Dune stuff for years.

And I watched that shit trailer they put out at E3 that was complete garbage. Like Cyberdemon getting built. Trash. Like I've been fucking patient. Here's the trailer. Show me the fucking trailer. Dude, I like Dune too. I'm waiting for it as well.

I used to... You didn't know me because I was in high school. I didn't know you guys. But every time... That went like OPM had the demo disc that had trailers on it. But there were trailers that you'd only get the write up for. You remember that? Like they showed us the trailer, but they won't let us put it on the demo disc.

Oh, right. Right? I would get just as pissed off because that's fucking horse shit. Right. It's all my ensuing fury with the parceled out hype train. Because I can see. Because here's why I say I can understand you guys. Because it's an exclusionary feeling.

Yes. Right? And I understand that an exclusionary feeling is not a nice one to experience. Of course. But the knowledge of new cool thing you like existing, at least to me, should trump it. If it doesn't, personally, I totally understand. I should point out that once the trailer comes out and I can see it this will nullify it. It will nullify.

It will nullify. It will nullify. It will nullify. It will nullify. It will nullify. It will nullify. It will nullify. So that means now I can see it.

It will nullify. It will nullify. It will nullify. It will nullify. It will nullify. It will nullify. It will nullify. This will nullify.

It will nullify. I know. Because I've seen this in you before. Yes. It will not maintain, it will not stay and it will not affect my viewing of that trailer. Yes. He has the right absolutely. But I mean like.

And I guess to me it just, I wouldn't use anger as a descriptor there because it's like. Also it's going to come. It's going to come. It has existed for a while. We've known about it for a while. A shitty trailer was released. It's not one of those things where it is brand new and no one knew it existed and it shows up.

And yeah, I'll be patient until the trailer. This is, we've been like Pat's saying we've been piecemealed, garbage, PR shit. And the idea that the game is not going well. I guess the war may never come out. When I can summarize it in my head in a way that kind of. And I have a game that said hey you'll get into the doom beta whenever we decide. It's very what Pat said. It's giving these tiny breadcrumbs and now the actual.

A sandwich. A sandwich is out there but I still am denied seeing it until when Paul Marketing says I can and I don't like that feeling. I understand that description of it. It's just kind of like, I don't want to simplify the opinions but like I kind of think and go like fuck you, I like you too much. You know what I mean? I feel too, I like what you're doing too much, fuck you guys.

But it's like damn it, I can't play the demos at E3. Only the people who are there can play. You should be able to play the demos at E3. They should send those out to the public. Why are you getting super mad about a video then? And not super mad about those. I do. He hasn't been to E3 this year.

I got mad about that every year that E3 existed and then I got tired of expressing it to nothing. But you know what? Like you just said, the moment you see it, this is just no. And also I should point out the context of if I was in that group of people and saw it early, I would still be pissed off that it was held back from everyone else and the evaporation that anger would be when it went public. Because I would love to see it. And I would be less yelling, but I'd still be like this bullshit.

If they did the Ubisoft thing and stuck the camera in my face, I'm like how much do you like it? I'd be disgusted. This is not to put you on the spot anyway. You're framing us? I'm just curious to know because you've been with me multiple times when this happens. Together. When we go to movies at Fantasia, the director is there and they treat us to something special that no one else is going to see.

Do you enjoy when you come out of a screening that has one of those? Or do you feel upset about the fact that this is not out yet? It depends on what they show and that hasn't happened too often because it's only happened to me once or twice. Days of the Future Past being a big one. Days of the Future Past being a big one and that was a huge amount of time between when that was shown and when that came out online. I got hyped. I got hyped and the longer it went on where I was like oh they still haven't released that.

They still haven't released that. I was like man they're taking a long time to release that. Then I thought maybe that was just a thing that was thrown together and that doesn't actually exist as a PR thing. When it came out, finally came out like months later, like five months later. I was like wow that was not different. Different. Why not show that earlier like a week after that was shown at whatever various movie festivals there are. That one that was a little like man they should have done that.

This weekend at Con Brava there was four minutes of the AVGN movie exclusively shown in the intro. It was usually shown at the end. They fucked up the audio in the first thing but they replayed it later. Had to be there to see it. If you were at our panel then you would have heard about the new event we're going to be putting out soon. Had to be there to see it. But only if you were at our panel. Right?

Right? No one's paying 60 dollars to watch that video. But like 60 dollars is only paid at the very last second and you have lots of time to decide. It doesn't matter. Asking for money changes the context. They haven't asked for your money yet. Yes they have. Pre-orders.

Again I understand. But it's a matter of like... Well wait for the show. It's a matter of how we count for things to end up being free. I disagree but I don't want to move on. I disagree also. Not with me but I disagree with you. You disagree with yourself.

We can move right on into happy things. Argue section. Argue section. You guys know that Matt is stupid. Did you guys know that Pat is right? You can't take him back down. That's canon now. That was only an exclusive for the argue section.

That's now a part of your wiki entry. That's not an argument though. We fucked up. I thought you were going to argue. Fatal frame. Fatal frame. Everybody can kumbaya around the fire that is fatal frame. Hey you show us the trailer.

Everyone got to see it. You're acting like me. In the next story. I think the only thing we can all agree on is hope to God they better fucking localize that. And we should all be rightly pissed off if it does not. Cause that game looks great. Didn't they? No.

The answer is no. Well the announcement was project 05. The black haired and trime maiden. Well no it was called the Japanese name. Project 05. But the black haired Japanese. That's it. That was Japanese.

That is a fan translation. Anyway. We exclusive. We use exclusive. If you'll remember I called this to you. Now let's. On my E3 bingo. You remember?

It wasn't on the E3 bingo. It was on it. It was one of my ASU. E3 though. We announced spin. I want to point out that this is validated by the 3DS spin off. I want to point out that this little flub that you made is ultimate proof that the Wii U continues to be a terrible name. But to be fair I think it's the only time any one of us has ever slipped that.

Oh we've done it a bunch. I fuck it up every time and you always correct me Matt. I say we always and you always give me you. And you know what? It's not your fault. Cause it's a Wii in my brain. Yes it sure is. I think the 3DS spin off being localized well after Fatal Frame 4 did not would hopefully increase this one's chances of being localized.

And you know I think Nintendo isn't really scared of the Fatal Frame 4 Wii U being lost among the huge wave of Wii U games that come out every month. There's no reason. There's no reason. On the Wii maybe. You could say. You could lobby it that like there's so many games. Shuffleware whatever some occasional third party things. First party things that it might get lost on the shuffle on the Wii.

But on the Wii U no. The game looks great. It looks great absolutely. It looks super good. I think they're probably going to do it since you know Xenoblade Chronicles X. They're already right on localizing that. SMT crossfire emblem still already announced. What makes me worried I think I told you about this is that its date to come out in Japan is so near that like if it was I'd like they should help.

I would go a step further and say no first party leaves the game in only one region because Sony and MS don't do that. That being said I have to correct myself because Nintendo still does that on the 3DS. Nintendo is going to be Nintendo if it walks. If this was a franchise that never saw the light of day in America maybe there'd be a reason to be concerned. But I think considering Fatal Frame is a thing that never came out on the Wii. And you ask Nintendo why? They say you'll need to talk to Tecmo. They were the ones that did that.

They decided no. And then if you ask Tecmo they say talk to fucking Nintendo. When Nintendo is the publisher they're full of shit if they say that. But that IP is owned by both. Like Tecmo says talk to Nintendo. Nintendo says talk to Tecmo. You go back to them and they're like ahhh. Ask your mother.

Tecmo does have any say in it. They are ultra good at localizing stuff. They localize everything. What also makes me worried is that I'm sorry to interrupt. I was just looking at it. We moved on from the Doom thing without really talking about what Doom is. It's a first officer shooter.

They're remaking the original Doom. That's supposed to be fast. It's not Doom 4. And it's updated. It's Doom. First person shooter. Exactly. Reimagination of the original Doom.

I want to know what is your thoughts after doing the talk about this. That it's a remake. I don't know that because I saw it. I didn't know that because I saw that I wasn't allowed to see the footage. And it like actively ignored the article. It's a full on remake of the entire mythology. Not Doom 4. Sure.

You're fine with that. That works for me. Because it means we get to do Doom and then Doom Hell on Earth again. Fast payers and everything. No recharging health. Yeah. Bad kids. Key cards.

Key cards. Yeah. What about Pinky? Probably. Not described but revenants and helmets. Is it going to have like a sick like 90s like synth rock soundtrack? You didn't say anything about the music. Is Megadeth going to do the soundtrack?

Probably not. There was this one bit. No Megadeth. There was this one bit. Oh sorry. I think I know who's doing the music. The guy that made the soundtrack for Killer Instinct and Wolfenstein. Wow.

Cool. And I know you're going to play Wolfenstein but Wolfenstein has incredible music. That's one of the things they never talked about. Play I as predigree enough for me. Born the cool things in the red. So metal will be in there. Judging by Fulcor's theme. A guy said it was you know excessively bloody as you would expect.

And in this one room there was a little cleaning droid like trying to clean up the blood off the floor but failing because there was just too much constantly getting spilled. I can live with this. And the other thing is that there's supposed to be like fatality style death animations. So they're just ripping off violent doom. Also exploding barrels. Yes. Are confirmed.

Is it a rip off of violent doom when it was the natural thing to do? Oh then like when I say rip off in this context I don't even mean that like negatively. I mean that in the way they saw that or like that's awesome and it's in their game. Like one of the death emanations was described. Death animations was described as a helmet rips off your arm and beats you to death with it. Great. That's the best mode of combat. That's the good one.

Yeah. Quan Chi. Ed did you have anything else on Fatal Frame there? Just my other big worry is that like when do you want... Willie when do you want to release a Fatal Frame game? What's the right time? What's the right month you would say? Maybe even day.

How about October? The Wii U though actually has a super fucking busy October. And since Fatal Frame for Japan is coming out in September it's not going to come out not in time. The dumbest. January. Which one of you guys just showed me the October list? It was me.

Yeah. Just look at how stupid October is. Because everyone's running away from Destiny on one side and Call of Duty on the other. So every single game of this year has been pushed into a one month window. Did you see Evil Within got bumped a week back because it scared of the day forward? A week forward because it was scared of the week that it was on. Because it was on the 21st which is death day. Yeah.

So now it's October 14th. The one I feel bad for is Costume Quest 2. Yeah. On the 31st. Jesus Christ. Launching up against Bayonetta 2. Sent out to die. To be fair it's out on every console.

It's out on everything. Well not next-gen actually. It's kind of odd. Oh really? It's only on our T-60PS 3D PC. Weird. And I think we you but not on T-60PS 3D PC. That's going to be sent out to fucking die.

I hope like the first one they manage to just get it. I'm sure it'll be fine. I hope it'll be fine. I hope it'll be fine. Double fine even. Yeah. Well what works is when there's like a sale later on that just bumps it back into the public consciousness.

It's still double fine so I still have that feeling where I'm like I don't want any of their projects to go bad. Like they're so on the brink. Yeah. That they had two consecutive kick starters. Remember massive challenge. Yes. Yes.

Double fine adventure like. Candy corn's got nothing to prove man. Exactly. We should go right into letter time. All right. Oh really? Guys it's time. It's time for electronic letters.

Mail even. Whoa. Can we copyright that? E-letters? No. Damn it. Now every cool pun you've thought you can think of someone already thought of it and copyrighted it.

If you want to send us letters about how creepy you think PJ Phil looks you can send them to. The big beard works for him but it's a shout. It's a shout. It's totally Shang Tsung. Yeah. You can't say it's not. You can send that tidbit of relevancy to superbestfriendcast at gmail.com.

That's super bestfriendcast at gmail.com. How many of you think are going to friendcasts.com? A ton of them are going to all the wrong ones and I'm emailing each individual and telling them hey you're going to the wrong place. I'd say 85%. Yeah. Because some people that happen to be at the opposite ones contact me and go hey. Why am I getting so much mail?

I googled and found out that these probably were meant to be. Someone told me. He said I sent a letter to the super bestfriendcat at gmail.com. I never got anything back and I'm like no that's to Zach's email. They sent more letters. Oh shit. What do we got for electronic mail this week? This week we got one from Oswaldo.

Oswaldo. Oswaldo. It's like a Hispanic Waldo. It's like a Hispanic Oswald. Oswaldo. Hispanic people calling mockery. Oswaldo. Says super best fashionista's cast.

I recently had to cut my hair and I wondered how I would look with a hairdo like Josuke. Probably wear it for a black guy. Could you guys choose a hairstyle from any anime or movie or whatever that you would wear proudly? Anyone that has more hair than I have right now. Very simple but I've always liked the way Guts hair is with these little like curly bangs not that much. Okay. He always looks good no matter what angle he's drawn.

You can't say that about some other hairdos in anime or whatever. Liam? I don't know. I can't think of a specific one. Why would you choose anybody else when your locks are so much smaller? Thank you. No, I don't know. I tend to be fairly conservative with my haircuts.

I would never get any fancy things because I don't like what people do. But if you were to get some crazy fantasy hair. If I were to, I don't even know. Something you could turn on and off for the button. I could probably have Squalls hair if I wanted that. What about Squalls hair? Yeah, you could grow that. What about the dude from Free with the brown hair?

I almost have his hair. See? I can't. See, Liam. I really have no complaints about my hair and I don't want to do anything crazy. See Liam, your hairstyle is almost exactly like Free. The stairs are bad. And Wally, you like clearly modeled your hair after Bob from Tenjo Tenka.

Exactly. Bob from Tenjo Tenka. That's the one. Wally covets certain types of hairs. I wish I could do that. Look, I mean, you got Bob, you got Eddie Gordo, you got Xavier Stone. There's a big list. You got, fuck, Prevail from the...

Oh, Prevail. Prevail from Swollin' Members. He wears them nice. He wears them nice. But if I could pick any character from a random fiction thing to replace my hairstyle with, Father Enrico Pucci from JoJo, part six, Endgame hairstyle that he rocks. He's like a black-eyed priest and he's got the cornrows that go into ponytail kind of thing. That sounds fucking hard.

And they're white. Yeah. And it's super stylish. So when you're in your Endgame, you can do this. And you know what? I already had cornrows back in high school, so I can actually accomplish that at some point. It's been a while though. You guys should get cornrows.

Yeah, I totally should do it. Oh my god. Settlement! Start your photoshop. Where are you sure that's been photoshop before? Matt, would you ever get like the true crazy punk-hawk? Like, one of those like five-foot things? I'd never really like that.

Not the big ones. What's his face? The first boss from Lollipop Chainsaw, the punk zombie? That like never really caught the appeal of that. Okay, because it's where my brain thinks like you'd go. Coming from the old days of the giant-ass chain hanging off your belt and the spikes and shit. No, the barbed wire one I told you I got. Yeah, fake barbed wire.

Oh, only fake barbed wire? Ethan asks, do you guys eat all your sponsor segments? Because they're super entertaining and appealing. Yeah, like he noticed when we didn't do any or whatever. No, well we have the things we have to say. Which the advertiser's like, usually the name of the product, where you can get it, and the special code that week. And everything else is just fucking whatever. Well, the only thing that I guess you would call kind of scripted is like, we'll say like, okay, this is the product.

What product does this replace? Let's pick this one to shit on. Next week we'll pick a different tact. Either that or like has anyone got a story related to this? No, but the actual raw text is all in here, buddy. I'm pointing at my brain. There you go. This point is elbow.

Also, what was your favorite year in video games? 1998. I thought you were just gonna say a year and I was gonna be like, oh fuck. 1999. It's 1998. 1999 for me. And then the argument becomes the two years we just said. 1998 is the best year, like by far.

I'll bring that time out of your soul in Half-Life. Do you want to say like, let's not say those two years? Without those two? I don't even think about it. Okay, how about midnight December 31st, 1998? How about that? Because if I had to not pick one of those two, it would be, what was it, 2007? Which had Assassin's Creed, Super Mario Galaxy.

2007? Yeah. It was an incredibly strong year, actually. I can't remember anything other than 98 because I don't remember what year's games came out. Yeah, no. I had the same thing. I don't have a favorite year of like what came out, but I do know my favorite year in video games. And it's 1987 because that's when everything started.

Begin. That's where Metal Gear came out. That's where Castlevania came out. That's where Final Fantasy came out. Final Fantasy XVI. And you know what? North American or Japanese? Japanese.

American. And you just said 2007, right, for example. Yeah, that was a really good year. It was. Here's the thing though, like us being young at the time, like having a year like 98-99, versus like we, like that was the first time. What was 99s, big ones? 99 was fucking third strike.

99 was perfect of wolves. 99 was the dream cast. Well, like I said, Wally, if I can't say those two a month. Like I said, 98 was the first one I said. And when we got around to 2K7, it's like we're just older, you know? The entire galaxy never loses its charm. No, no, no, no, no. But the childhood fucking open eye, why not?

I've never experienced video games like this of those two years. 98's the clear winner because Ocarina Time, Metal Gear Solid, and Half-Life with you. All three of those games were my brain. It just blew out my ass. It was so strong. It all started in 94. I kept on going. 95.

Didn't 97 have like GoldenEye, Mario Kart, and Final Fantasy 7? 97 was FF7, yeah. 97 was the N64 starting to pick up steam. Yeah. 98 also had Parasite Eve and Xenogars. Anyway. I think FFT. But there's your answer, man.

The fucking end of the 90s were untouchable godlike years. 1991 also. Yes. Super Mario World Street Fighter 2. The SNES. The beginning. Saw the hedgehog, I think, and maybe not. Wully, did you just say SNES?

Don't you mean the Super Nintendo Entertainment System? Or the SNES. SNES, yeah. That's the SNES, you fucker. Amos wants to know if any of us considers ourselves game collectors. No. I once aspired to such things, no longer do I. I'd consider, like, because, I mean, you can see, then, you saw that at Com Bravo,

I'd get stuff. I don't say they're my game collector, but there's a certain era that I just like, like, NES, Super Nintendo, like, I have no purpose to get the cartridges. But for PSX, PS2, GameCube, Xbox, like, anything I don't know, I do want just to say I have it, and it might get useful down the line. I'd say, like, if we ever stopped doing this stuff, I would like to have, like, a giant collection just to look at. I personally don't, but I don't want everything.

Yeah. No, I don't collect any libraries at all. I have a library to put stuff in that I happen to like, but I do pick an IP or a franchise, and I'm like, I'm going to do that. And currently, Metal Gear and Street Fighter, I'm like, I want all versions of everything. Yeah, I buy a lot of games, so on the literal, I am collecting games, but I find no value in having the collection of stuff on my shelf. Yeah.

And I don't, like, I just went all digital, except for Nintendo games. So, like, I extra find no value in the collection aspect. I just want to play it. I'm excited, but it's fine. No. And like, when things get removed from digital stores and you can no longer buy it. That happens frequently. Not frequently.

Not frequently. Not frequently. Like, once or twice. Or Steam. Play Marvel. You do have Marvel. I do. Play Deadpool.

But with Marvel? With Marvel? I don't know if digital is cool, but not recently, it's like things get taken off of the stores. But if you buy it, you have to get a physical copy. Since you've bought it, you don't have it forever. Yes. It's not removed.

It's delisted. But let's say I want to go on digital. I'm not going to get this game for a while, but I will get it. Then you get it physical later if it doesn't exist. I like having, like, a security blanket that always prevents me from having it. I'm sure you've bought one or two games digitally. You bought Deus Ex on the Wii U, right? Yes.

I'm sure Pat's bought one or two games physically. I buy all Nintendo games physically because of that exact problem is so much more pronounced than Nintendo. I agree with physical games better, but, you know, like, I'm not going to slam them. I guess technically I could throw a Chrono Trigger on that list as well, since I got every version of that. And then, like, the fucking... Yeah, the iOS version too, I assume.

The... I got the iOS version of Chrono Trigger. No, not quite there. Then you're right. You're right. Is any different? iOS? Doesn't run well.

Doesn't run well. Doesn't run well. That's the difference. But the portable version that came out, which apparently became super rare immediately after launch. I have it. You know? I had it.

I've lost it. But the date came out, man. William asks about pets and stuff. Yeah! Pets are awesome. Hey, guys. Come here, man. It has them.

This one's a pretty good question, actually. Guys, I got a Boston Terrier, and I named... Yeah! I named him Iggy. Yeah, you did! Yeah, I did! Right? For obvious reasons.

Love him to death. He's the best pet I've ever had. Man, Boston Terriers are great. They make weird ass noises. I've never heard of him. But part of me feels weird that he's essentially a living piece of fan merch. I wanted to know how you guys feel about naming pets, and I guess even children after game characters, or just characters from stuff you like, because it feels a little awkward

and in some cases cringe-worthy. I know that Matt has two pets named after game characters, and I remember Pat saying something about a dog he had from a video game from a while ago. And I figure he'd probably name it something stupid from something you like as a reference or whatever, but use this question to talk about that concept in general. Okay. So you have a cat, and you call it vice, or a hamster, and you call it Sid. That's cool.

But if you have a baby, and you call it Ganondorf, there's no reason to do that. Okay, so here's where I go. Here's my personal thought, and it's very similar to that. It's like, name your wiener dog Zangief, because that's hilarious, and dogs are stupid, and they- Naming any tiny- Dog doesn't give a fuck that he's named after a fictional wrestler. I know he else does either.

Don't name your child Turok. You will ruin his life. Yes. No matter how much they're worth, they won't change it. What? You can- You can- You can't imagine that he can go, I am Turok, and be legit.

Okay. One in a million. Okay. Seriously, though. Like, if you name- If you name your dog Cloudstrike, people will make fun of you, because you're a child- I wish- But they won't make fun of your dog at school, and hurt his feelings.

And they won't call child services. Yeah, exactly. I wish I could talk about the names of people who have crazy names that I know, but I can't say those names here. Because you'll be out of that. Sorry, I have to ask you that. No, don't- No, no, no, not about that.

Oh, it was name your kid Turok, but what do you put on your gravestone? Wasn't it- You put Shadow Man on your gravestone? Shadow Man on your gravestone. That's okay, I'm sorry. I just- Shadow Man on the gravestone. That's lame.

That's garbage. I don't know. Also, also- Also, I don't have a video game dog. I don't know where that came from. Also, a Taco Bell on your arm. Get a tattoo. What?

Get a tattoo of Taco Bell, and you could go into a Taco Bell and get free Tacos for life. Get cash for gold, or not on your forehead, or some shit like that. Jesus Christ. Yeah, so- So what was the question? What do you- So the question was just like, do you feel it's kind of weird when you name a pet after like fan merch of a thing in a way?

No, I don't think it's- It's like a glorified toy. As long as you love the animal, that's fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, totally agree. If you got a Boston Terrier just so you could name him Iggy, that's a little different. Here's the thing though, don't forget all the clownfish that died that fucking happened after finding Nemo.

No, no, no, that's not even the height. The ultimate ever is 101 Dalmatians. Oh, yeah. Where Dalmatians are not good for beginner pets, because Dalmatians have a lot of health problems and they're difficult to train. That's why that stuff is fine when it happens to a product, like E.T. comes out and everyone buys Reese's Pieces and everyone's doods got big, right? But it's not great when people buy a bunch of alligators and release them into the suit.

Yeah, but when a movie get blows up that has some sort of animal that gets popular, like that's when there's always a problem, but- Maybe. That's pretty seldom these days. Maybe the guy's mixing you up for me because I might have talked about my dog, but, uh- Everybody's- He's out. He's out.

There's new- there's new Everybody Movies being released every year. No, fuck you. You're lying. Get out of the fucking town. They stopped calling it Air Bud is why it got so far. It's now called Air Buddies. It's called The Land Before Air Bud. Did Air Bud die?

Yes. Yes. Assuredly. That movie is like 15 years old. He jammed too hard. We should rent some movies. As you walk by the store every time, man, just look at the back and see what year it says and make sure they keep it up like-

2013? 2016, what? No. My dog in Grenada, uh, I called him Ralph. And this was before I even knew that I liked Ralph as a character, so maybe that might have been a mix-up there, but- You're a galactic-a-fantom. I fucking wish.

My dog's names have been Sandy, Max, Percy, and Romeo. They're all names my folks picked out and are just dog names. Yes. I also- People names sometimes. People slash dog names. Yeah. My two dogs, Ralph and Lisa.

That was it. But when I get a dog, I'm going to name it Zangief, especially- It has to be a tiny dog. The smaller, the better. And like- Fit in your purse style. And like the gigantic dog, I'll name something like tiny. Mittens.

Yeah, mittens. Talum. Button. Wind! Yeah! My old dog- I'll think of something funnier in two seconds. My old dog, my family, already had like a name.

His name is Ben, so like that's a nice dog name. And then of course I call my rats Roxy and Poison, and then when people will go, oh, does that mean- And I go, you figure it out. And then they're like, well, okay. And of course, like Jack is Jack because Snake Eater, and of course Z- You guys name Zach, so there you go. But that being said, like naming anything baby-

Like say, you decide to name your baby after a video game character, right? But the character is Francis York Morgan, and you name the kid Francis. Fine! Yeah! He's going to be okay. It doesn't mean anything. Not if you name your kid Soler, or Coltrane, or Optimus Prime, or Optimus Prime. Yeah.

Right? Like use some goddamn common sense here, people. Like just the guy that I met that has- Tell me your baby, the penetrator. The guy that I met that has the coolest name ever, that you meet him, and then he's far from the coolest guy ever, because he wears a fedora, and he tilts it at you. It's such a disappointment when you don't live up to the name that you've been given. You're black from who this is after a video game.

Your parents did everything they could, and then squandered it. They set you up real good. Celebrity names, like Apple, and Moon Unit, Dweezel, and Moon Unit are Frank Zappa's kids. Oh my god. Dweezel, I don't know. That's fine. Is it? Is it Dweezel?

That's fun to say. Moon Unit? That's like that actor TJ Storm, who I always really want to believe that's his real name. I'm a fucking phoenix, man. That's his real name. God, I love that. I'm just panicking. That is River Phoenix.

Yeah. What is coming up on the watch, folks? What am I watching this week? Oddworld comes out this week, tomorrow, actually. You said that last week. I know, but I'm still excited. I'm going to be diving back into the Destiny beta, which Liam and I both did not talk about at all, but we'll talk about it next week.

That's what I'm watching. I'm going to push me, pull you on the watch, which is this creepy ass fucking indie game where, take the visual style of sports friends, then take- Which sports friends? Because all the games look different. Let's say Barry Barry Ball, for example. Yeah, Barry Barry Ball, and there's another one that looks similar in style, but of that, then you have, it's a four player game, you have two characters that are basically like

Nobby Nobby Boy, and each take an end of that person, and then you have to keep the ball away from the other persons, and you do that by crawling inside of each other and doing these weird freaky fucking, like, you have to see it. You gotta show girl how much you can penetrate yourself. It looks fun, but it's horrifying to watch, and you're stretching each other out and shit. So you're looking to literally crawl up your own ass this week, or player three or fours, you know? It's a party.

If you saw the footage of fucking Mount Your Friends the first time, you lose your shit. I did lose my shit. And then you're like, but this game is amazing. When we played that, was that the first time? I know, I see it and know the game's amazing. When we played that, was that your first time? Yes, it was. Yes, it was.

Okay, so this might be really, really fun, and we'll see where that goes. Well, you and I gotta read the new Brian Leo Malley comic. We gotta read the second issue. I'm interested to know what you think about it. I'm interested to know about it. As for me, I have a bunch of movies to see this weekend at the Fantasia Film Festival. Oh, that's true. One, the new The Grudge from Japan, like, Ju-On, The Beginning of the End.

The Romance. A horror movie that has the guy that works for Stannis. Yeah, okay, Davos. Yeah, Davos. And all it is, is the trailer was a guy covered in blood with some type of bladed weapon, and a big black screen with red text says, let us pray. That's the movie. That's it.

And I was only able to get two tickets to the Angry Video Game Nerd movie this weekend. So lucky you got tickets. Hopefully that is not as great as the trailers make it. So who you bringing? Yeah. That's the question. You guys will have to fight over me. Well, I hope that your Sunday is not too busy, because we also have...

We have something else that we gotta do. Nuzlocke! Road to final victory. When are you starting it? I'm starting it at 12 p.m. Eastern. That's Eastern Standard Time. And I'm Daylight Savings. Eastern Standard.

And Marzy Farmers. Fucking Farmers? GMT Months. Fucking Plays. I was gonna say fucking plague. And now we're going till we're going. Yeah? You're going till you fall asleep on stream.

But then I wake up and I keep going. Either way? No, you wake up and you're like, oh, I'm dead. Fun fact, is the one person I know that has fallen asleep during video games more than I've ever seen anyone. It's only been three times. But it's the only person I know that's fallen asleep. I could also think of Billy.

When was that? We were playing, you wanted to see Spider-Man Shatter Memories. You fell asleep during 2099 section. There was another superhero game you fell asleep during. Deadpool. Deadpool? And there was a third one, but that was quite a while ago, so I'm not sure if it counts. Okay, well, Woolly.

But you weren't playing them. Since we're gonna be dropping in at all hours, if you fall asleep, I will tattoo a dick on your forehead. You're sick. I don't know how to do tattoos either, so it'll be fun. It'll be fun. They're all gonna be blood. Oh, you guys just shmown in whenever you want, do you think?

Yeah, absolutely. Hey, what's going on here? Yeah. I haven't watched a single episode of this. Let me give you shit advice. It's that dog, like, what's going on in this thread? Oh, shit. Yep, so that's coming up on the channel this week.

No, what's coming up on the site? What's coming up? That is the website. We have a website now. I know, but the stream is on a channel. It's on a Twitch channel. Yeah, I know. But that can be seen on the site.

It is different. What's happening in terms of videos? I don't know if you've checked it out, Liam. I have checked it out. There is a stream section with your stream. And I do know, and we have to talk about that. And I put it on right after. Right after.

Oh, you're not happy with what I did? I'm happy with it. It's just there yet. What's video content going to be for the next week? We got murdered. We got Dark Souls. We will have the conclusion of Wolf Among Us, maybe today, maybe tomorrow.

Maybe yesterday. Maybe yesterday. We just need to show it to you. It's been recorded. Sorry, say that again. It's been recorded. We just need to show it to you. Superheroes will continue to be super or not.

Super great and fun. They're all super fun. The Magfest panel will be coming at you soon. The Magfest panel. We're a little behind. So we'll put in the Magfest panel out. The Con Bravo panel is what you need to say. Yes.

That's correct. Well, we were making that joke for a while before you caught it. You look pretty tired suddenly. No, I just completely fucking blanked on that. Yes, get that soon. Yeah, whatever that may be. So you can check that out where? Superbestfriendsplay.com.

Where's that? Superbestfriendsplay.com. And if that doesn't work for you, we got a YouTube channel called The Switcher. You can check that out if you like. You think Zach's going to want to eat these Oreos that we don't want? I don't think any animals want to eat some of those Oreos. I'm just going to crumble it up and put it in his catgrass. I'd rather not.

That's not going to work out well. It's going to kill the cat. Just like you planned. No, I love Zach. He's super soft now. He punched him before. I didn't mean it. I was just flailing around as everyone knows I like to.

And you just threw Zach at him. Okay, okay. I'm just going to windmill my arms like this. And walk forward. And Zach's just going to kick his legs like this. And if you have potatoes, I'm going to stand up. I'm hitting animals. Oh, no!

No, we can't do this new larva right in animals. What you do, you're doing it right now. Stop it. It's not working, Matt. Why isn't the cat meowing? This is hilarious. Zach is completely unamused by your antics. Matt has literally picked the cat up and is shaking it over the microphone.

Trying to get it to meow. And you can totally hear the bell on his collar ringing, but the cat just fell off. Not a royal fuck was given that day. He's too scared. All right, with that, we will leave you guys until next week. Also, is this episode 50? Yeah!

Congratulations to us. We're 50 years old.