Castle Super Beast - SBFC 053: Did Matt Die In Cuba?

Episode Date: August 12, 2014

This week, on a very special episode, one of the Zaibatsu, WILL DIE.* *This may an untruth We round up the latest with all the cool stuff that happened just after we finished recording last week, like how cool Gannondorf is, and how much we love retailer specific pre-order content!

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Oh man, this sounds really fun. You can use over 300 tanks from different World War periods. You can go nuts blowing up your friends with fucking accurate shit. Playtanks.us World of Tanks, Liam! Can I play it? Yes! Yay!

World of Tanks is free to play and read at T14. The answer's never packed. I faked my whole life up until this point by not thinking things through. By just doing the thing, and then everyone goes, uh-uh! Why should I have expectations of you thinking things through now? Yeah, why? Why? It's like all those sentences that I start that I clearly didn't intend to finish. Of course, all those terrible things that you say.

Oh shut up. It's true. Welcome to year two of the Super Best. Okay, so I want to call out a guy on, I think it was a comment somewhere that I saw. I want to call him out for being totally right and ruining all of our fun. About what? You technically, you don't usually celebrate a child's birthday. The anniversary.

On the night before. The week before their birthday. Yeah, well, the night before, because people don't live in weekly releases. No, but in case you don't, they don't remember. We celebrated the podcast's birthday on its 52nd week, when in fact the birthday would be on the 53rd. True, because we were celebrating completing a year. Yeah, so screw you guy who was totally right.

What an ass. So Matt, you didn't miss the podcast anniversary. I guess I did, I guess it's today. Welcome back from Mother Base. Did Matt die in Cuba? I love that narrative now, because it's like, no, the only reason I'm allowed in Cuba is because I'm okay to go there. Yeah, but you came back and you were like, I'm super sick by the way. Yeah, I never said that.

You said it to me. No, I didn't say I was super sick. I feel weird coming off that plane. I was fine on the plane. I was flying the entire way there. Are you now a generale? I'm not a genet. You're on a resort.

Did you found Zanzibar land off the resort? There's a lot of questions coming down. It just calmed down. You need to know. So I think the best way to describe spending a week in Cuba is that I real-life AC4. What does that mean? You bought all the property? You got on a boat?

Everything that you can do in AC4, I did in real life. I drank all of the rum. I went on a boat, like a catamaran, and I went to different islands. I frolicked with a dolphin. I saw a shark. Aren't dolphins adorable? This dolphin, Mina, was incredibly adorable. You pet them, and they feel dry, and it's weird.

No, it felt very plasticky. It felt fake. It felt like a toy. No, they're not slimy at all. But they have a weird consistency. They felt like a toy. They felt like a plastic toy. And you got out before it got Randy, right?

Because dolphins get horny really easy, man. You want to clear the fuck out with that. Dicks are huge and fish-like. Of all the dolphins, dicks got big. Did you sing pirate songs? Lowlands, lowlands, lowlands. I think I mentioned before how this is an all-inclusive thing. So the first thing you have to get used to is the ability to eat wherever you want,

and then just fucking leave. And that was weird. You just peace out. Yeah, you probably have five minutes of waiting for the check, and then you're like, wait, fuck this. Because in this place, there's a giant buffet. And the thing that I'll say right off the bat is that we did not eat very well. Because this was all food for us that Cubans make.

And I'd rather have a section of actual Cuban food. But you're not allowed to visit actual Cuba. No, I was. We actually did. Oh, really? Where the money was not tourist money. It was the real money? No, because we were in a city called Veradero,

which is at the very end of Veradero. And all of that was based on tourism. And then we took an excursion where we just took a bus to downtown where roving packs of dogs. But it was charming. It was nice. And we get there. It's one long strip of this long street. And there's all these flea markets.

And that's where I was going to get you guys something. Some weird bullshit. But as we're on the bus, we just see rain clouds. And I'm like, oh, it looks like it might rain. And then I turned and I looked at my girlfriend or vaguely looked around. Then I looked outside and it was a thunderstorm. All of a sudden, just like that. That's what it's like to live in the ocean.

Fucking sheets. I've never seen rain this bad, like here. Oh, see, Matt, here you have plenty of land to slow the storm down. But there, it's like the storm started 10 feet in that direction. And we go like, holy shit. And we asked the bus driver, like, our stop is here. Can you tell us when the stop is? He goes, oh, yeah, no problem.

And then as we're waiting there, we're waiting. I'm like, hmm, it's been a little while. So where's our stop? He goes, very sorry. Five blocks ago. And we go, we look outside and we just huddle under a bank. And we're like, what do we do? We're going to get soaked and we're going there to go to a restaurant.

We looked at a trip advisory place. There's this one Italian place. Italian dude moved from Italy to here and said, I'm fucking owning the city with my food. And like, it's the number third rated restaurant in Cuba. Wow. Worth visiting. We want to get there. And we're like, if we're with clothes or soap, they're not going to let us in.

Or we're going to have to wait or something. And we finally like, we wait until there's a little break and we dash and we're like, it was right everywhere. What street are we on? I don't know. There's dogs. Right. And we're getting there.

We finally like, oh, there it is. And it's, we thought it was a guy's backyard. Oh, wow. We look, look, that's the street. There it is. And I'm like, that, that guy's backyard where that old guy is just watering his lawn. Like, yes. And you go down a little like alleyway next to it.

And there's this big like chain link fence. You go inside and then all of a sudden you're in Guinea pig town. They made a gigantic in the front of this restaurant. There's all these little cities where all these guinea pigs live. Nice. They're the pets. They're the mascots of the restaurant. And I'm like, that's so cool.

And all these guinea pigs are just like, oh, get hyped for this Italian food. And we sit down. We have like really good meal there. So that, that, and, but because of that rain, all those shops closed down. So I wasn't able to utilize. Was there a cage fight in the restaurant? I was able to get you Nestle Bono. What is Nestle Bono?

Little strawberry cookies in a pack. So if you guys want to dig into them later. Maybe Big Boss invented them. I don't know. So if you want to dig into that later. Did you smoke big Cuban cigars? So when it happens that every motherfucker there wants to sell you Cuban cigars. Of course.

Because they know. And, and like we already had some on the first day. Rolled in the cleavage of some beautiful man. Make sure not to get Dominicans as, as, as Kramer learned. Because they roll them too tight. You know? They scratch you in the face. These cookies are good, man.

I'm glad you like them. The other thing, I guess like the, the, the main thing is that what do you do there? Yeah. You go to the pool. Yeah. You go to the beach. The pool has a swim up bar. So you just swim up to the bar.

I'm not swimming. Great. Cause where are you going to fall? I was just going to ask if you went to one of those. Yeah. So every time it was like, we're thirsty. You just let him go. I'm like, can I?

I'm like, okay. Just float on over. Just float on over there. Um, and I had my little, I had my little Spider-Man goggles. And like my little Spider-Man, uh, going under the water goggles. And I looked really cute. I was Spoderman finally. Uh, the beach was really nice.

Like it was just sand everywhere. Not one roast thing on the beach. And, uh, you put your, you put your hands in and after a while I started digging up the sand. You see behind you, Willie, there's like a little, uh, tray full of shells that we got. And once you start doing that, fish go nuts cause fish are like, there's stuff under the sand.

We can't get them cause we don't have hands. You guys have hands. You're doing it. So I'm digging through the thing and there's just like dozens of little cute fish. And I'm like, this is so cool. Did you punch them? I'm like Aquaman. No, you can't punch them.

I'll be fine. Go my fish. Like I said, we went to like, uh, like a little dolphinarium thing and that's where like you get, you sit, you sit on this gigantic like raised platform in the middle of the ocean. Okay. If they, they drive you out there and then you sit on there and then they go, okay. And then a trainer starts doing stuff and then the dolphin just goes nuts, goes up

and down the line, goes for high fives. Yeah. Does whatever. He knows. He knows. It was like a thing that was out in the ocean and not like in a park somewhere. So they're like, Oh, dolphins come in here and they know that we got shit going on and we're some that are really well trained and some like we work on whatever.

So they swim in and they stay here a few days. I don't know if they're telling the truth. Maybe they're all dolphins. No, but it's like, if it's in, if it's raw ocean that you're looking at behind you, then it's like, yeah, they're punching it on the clock. Like who wants lunch today? All right, Steve, go get your fish. High five the fuckers.

After that, they go, this is when an excursion, so you pay like a hundred bucks and they take you like all the way. They give you a meal. They make you do a couple of things. And I was like, really excited for snorkeling because snorkeling will see shit. They just dump us out in the ocean again, like just not boat away, but they're like, okay, here's your mask. Like go nuts.

And I'm like, but oh, I thought, okay. And they just give me a mask and like a little kid comes and they go, oh shit. And I basically was like, oh, I'm falling. So I might as well try to do a jump. So I fall and I'm not prepared. The water's choppy. This is like the only actual bad moment I had where I'm like, oh God, it's so salty. The mask doesn't stay on.

I go over here. I cut my knee on the boat on something and I'm like, oh, and my girlfriend's like, are you okay? Just grown man crying in the water. I dunked my head in the water twice and there's just sludge. I don't see a fucking fish anywhere and I get back on the boat and she's like, are you done? I'm like, yeah.

And I get on the boat. That was the only like, this isn't, I go, when we're on a beach, all snorkel because this isn't fun because the water was actually throwing me to and fro. And then they brought us to a nice other little beach on Nile and this is where the sashes creed forth. Stuff comes in because we're just boating around in different islands. And then we frolic there for a bit. I go, oh, look, there's some rain clouds.

Did you really frolic? I frolic. Okay. You can ask my girlfriend if she's coming back. Are there any questions coming from back? You can ask her, I spend more time in the water frolicing than she did. Because frolicing is like this joyful print. It's a very specific action.

And on the beach, you can frolic because it's fun. And at some point during the trip on the beach, you decided to become Taz. I got a little orange. I'm not going to wear a little orange right now. I'm going against the nerd who watches TV and plays video games all day, so look, I guess. It'll fade off, I'm sure, and I'll be back to normal. At least there's no like, punish your skull.

Like, please, it's on my hand. I know the order. You should have done that. We looked up and as we're leaving this beach to take us all the way back to the hotel, I look up and I go, oh, look, there's some rain clouds. And we're walking on the beach and I look up and I'm like, oh, there's, I see the wind swirling in a cyclone. And then the guys that operate the boats go, okay, everyone, get on the boat, yeah.

Then they look up and they're, okay, now, hang on now. And we all get on the boat and just gray everywhere, not 50 feet in front of you, could you see? Water's churning. And I'm like, holy shit. Like, think about in Assassin's Creed 4 when you're sailing. Remember how? Yeah. Yeah.

The weather shows up. That's how fast it fucking is. I thought Ubisoft Montreal was like, ah, fuck it. Right now, weather, go. And we're on the thing, we're on this camera and the rain is just coming sideways. Everyone's stoked and I'm just like this, like, oh, God, this is fucking cold. He was holding his arm, so you couldn't see it there. Everyone in the boat is miserable.

And then the guys that control the boat just put on like, like, this is fucking awesome. Song from like what's this, from Macklemore or whatever. Sure, sure, yeah. And then they start, hey, rum, more rum, everyone. Everyone's actually looking around and they can't see anything. It feels like you're going to die. It's like, have rum. Have rum.

And then they did all these, like, Cuban, like, songs, stuff where, like, one side is delegated to the women, the other side is delegated to the men, and the girls have to sing their part of song, and the guys' part is see, see, see, while clutching their arms in a very sex-like motion. Of course. And the girls are like, yeah, yeah, it's a fun song, and I'm like, wow, okay. So at the end of the trip, it basically, my plot was revealed, and I very, not subtly made a mention on my Tumblr about how this was all not a vacation for me.

This was an opportunity to propose to my girlfriend. Oh my God! I called it. I called it. Nobody knew! Totally. On her birthday on the beach, which is her favorite place in the whole wide world, and that's why I wanted to do it there, because I was like, I didn't want to do it in a restaurant.

Restaurants. If you want to do it in a restaurant, fine. It's fine. But it's a little like everyone does in a restaurant. Yeah, exactly. You've got to be either on a beach on her birthday or at a basketball game. What about a basketball game? There's no other ways.

What about the top of a mountain? No. Oh. That's so 90's. While you watch Samurai Cop. I'm from the 90's. So I proposed to her, and she was very smitten, and she said yes, obviously. Because I was waiting for her.

I was like, yeah, because I was waiting for the, yeah, no, it was a great time. And then she was like, no, fuck, no, no, no, no. She said yes. I mean, who really wouldn't say yes, I thought, but no, I was actually like scared to death of it. It was really scary. So I had to say ask her in a situation in which you have to take like a 10 hour plane wreck, plane ride back together.

If she says no, it'd be really awkward. I've had the ring for a couple of months, and I hit it in the one place where no one would look, no one would touch it behind the jing cast. Yeah. I mean, who would look? That's what I remember. I remember one time you told me, and I'm like, oh, you hit it in right. What kind of ring is it, Matt?

It's a black diamond. What are you going to inscribe the little punisher face on it? Not right away. I've been thinking about that for like days. It shows up in the sunlight. So like, except for not eating too well, and the... What were you saying? Well, I mean, was it good food that was bad for you?

No, it was like, you know, you go inside and you have all these meats you have, like, you know, they tried to make hot dogs. They tried to make sausages. But it's just not. It's just, butter was terrible. I had tried butter there once. How could you make butter bad? They made it.

They found a way. Like, so all my bread, no butter. Thank you. No, it's weird. It does not taste good. And I was just watching a little, like, mini documentary thing about the guy that... Some guy in New York has a restaurant that's like the equivalent of Jiro Dreams of Sushi for butter and bread.

Sick. And like, yeah, you got to try that next time. Like fucking world class bread. I bet you get sick after eating there. Yeah, no. I had garlic breads with my favorite food. I could just eat it nonstop without even... And you'd never get fat.

You'd never get fat. I guess the only thing is that every night there they had shows, like Magic Show. Yeah. Michael Jackson's show. Right, right. Michael Jackson's live? Yeah, I saw him on stage. He's fighting out in Cuba.

So there was this, the final show was a magic show, you know, a couple of girls in half, you know, sword guy, whip guy, guy with whip just whipping things. Yeah. This was bothered by whip guy magic show because there's no magic to whip guy. I think that's just a pretty magical thing. Whip tricks. They're cool though. And he's got the flashy pins.

So the one moment where I'm like, this was a meant to be trip is that they go, okay, so here's our final trick. And they set up the bull behind the stage and they come out and they start playing music. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. Oh, come on. They start playing the original Killer Aston home music. I was like, oh my gosh.

Wait a minute. So they start playing that and they cut, they put a girl in a box, put all the swords in, she's fine. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. And she's like, this is your highlight of the trip, isn't it? I'm like, oh, fuck that proposal. This is fucking really. That's just stupid.

They start playing the song then they reveal Cinder and the whole thing was just like, the whole thing was just a Microsoft event. Well played, Dave Lang. Well played. I thought it was just Dave Lang with a mask on. Like the entire time. The biggest ruse ever. He was the bartender.

The only other highlight is that we went first class too in the plane, which is very good. But if I don't go to first class, not the biggest deal. No, business class is the real one. No, that's what it's called now. That's business class. We went business class. Oh, you went business class? Yeah.

First class is just called business class now. You went Air Canada, so that's what it was. When I went to Japan, they had both of them, and business class was huge. It had seats that could turn into beds. Okay, no, we didn't have beds. Yeah, on smaller planes, first class is just wider seats. It's a really long trip. Yeah, if you want your complimentary hot towel and hand job service.

Yeah, we had the hot towel. We had one of the best meals I've ever had on. It was like chicken breast with black bean paste and a rice and a dessert and drinks whenever you wanted. Yeah, airplane food has changed. War just like airplane food. And I got to watch the Winter Soldier on the TV. And you're like, this is the time. I was super happy about that.

There you go. So yeah, very good trip. I could have stayed a few more days. The only thing is that when you land around the beach, what do you really do? You land around the fucking beach. I started and finished Stephen King's sequel to The Shining called Doctor Sleep, which came out last year. And I didn't even know about it. I was like, I'll pick this up when I was at chapters.

By the way, when are we going to all shoot ourselves now that that chapter's downtown is closing down? Wow. That sucks. The one. Indigo's still around though. Indigo's still around, so it's fine. So I started and finished that. I highly recommend that book.

It was really good. And you don't even really need to... You highly recommend the Stephen King book. I think the rest of the world does as well. I just mean that I read one other... So you read this book called Kujo and you're telling me it's good. Right? I just mean that like a 20 plus old sequel to a thing that has nothing very little to do with the original thing.

It's got stands in it. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. It takes place like from the 80s to 2014. Okay, so awesome. It was really good. It was really good.

It's like what? Battles and stands? Very awesome. Sick. Sick. So the mad is now betrothed. Betrothed. Betrothed.

How is the diary? We need to... Yeah, exactly. Well, we need to come up with a whole new line of like fucking lore for this. So we got to go into the lab and come up with some shit and eventually reveal it. Please do. Starting with the fucking nightmare that will be your bachelor party. The nightmare?

The nightmare of my bachelor party. Think about it. It's just us watching Samurai Cup. Yeah. Perfect. Like the girls will be like, you got to go to a strip club and we all go, yeah. Then we go, we'll make sure they all think we're there. Exactly.

Well, we'll be here. You guys just do a nerd shit? Yeah. No. I can see us watching Samurai Cup and the strippers like on the couch. They're just watching Samurai Cup. She's on her phone and she occasionally looks up and then just looks back down to her phone. I don't know, does Kenny know how to play Third Strike?

No. Yeah, she's really, she's really good with Q. Just a beast Q stripper. She takes her nails off and fucking grabs the stage. Yeah. You've long pushed this joke of you get like this black like super like sassy lady and doing chungoku saps is like super easy. It's the Fresh Prince gesture of like pulling the fingernails off to get serious.

Yeah. Anyway. And I guess right after that I went in to suffer with all you guys cause we all watched the Ninja Turtle movie. Which we don't really enjoy. Please enjoy our video for that. That's all that needs to be said. Stuff on the side and up on YouTube.

And I played Killering Stink with Zai who runs the two best friends. Yes you did. Thank you very much for guiding his hips. I guide his hips. He's like I like glacis. I'm going with glacis. Good. And I go ballsy but sure awesome.

You chose a fucking path you did. Yeah you chose a path. So I'm glad we started off like the week with the guy who had the coolest week. Yeah. So that's all. Worked down her own. That's worked down from there. So Liam what did you do?

I can't figure it out. Liam's like I had a child. You would never guess it but that's what happened. Yeah this is really going to be a quality dip. I had a chance to try. Don't say it like that. Lay's macaroni and cheese chips. Yeah.

And that. I'm asking for you. I'm jealous of that. I adore macaroni and cheese. One of my two favorite. Is that one of those flavors that they had a pulled for? Yeah one of the contests. When I went to New York.

Yeah. When I went to New York I tried Lay's garlic bread chips. Those were delicious. What an utter disappointment. Oh no. It didn't like them at all. Wouldn't buy them again. Damn it.

That's so depressing. I guess you tried these because you went to the states right? It was when I went to the states and in fact I tried them a bit last week but I kind of forgot and I was like oh that's a big thing for me. Oh man. Did they sprinkle KD powder on like chips? No no it's just whatever recipe they came up with and it just doesn't work out. Cause theme food is always dangerous.

It's always like I can't believe they nailed it or this is terrible. Exactly. Exactly they didn't. Exception being watermelon in which they didn't nail it at all. Yeah. But I prefer fake watermelon than real watermelon at this point. Americans don't know about all dressed chips. No.

They don't know about that shit. They don't know about that shit. They're great. That's secret tech man. Well the fuck does that mean they forgot about that. Right? So I went to the grocery store to make a bunch of like actual good macaroni and cheese. Cause you're so bitter.

Exactly. Did you find truffle oil? I didn't use truffle oil. Okay. But I have to try that one time. Cause we've had that before. Yeah. And I saw that next to the Kraft Parmesan there is now a Kraft Cheddar.

Yeah. Which is just this. Yes. And after tasting it and being like huh I realized it's just Kraft Intermix. Yeah. And you can Kraft Inter any pasta with that. Yeah. It's the sickest shit ever.

Yeah. I've never seen that product on the show. I'll try that. Cause I haven't eaten Kraft Intermix in a while cause like it started. I was like I should stop eating this full shit. But I'll try it on like penne or something. Yeah. It's not exact.

But it's like damn. This is just like they just poured the Kraft Inter stuff into the next bucket and stirred that down twice and it got a little different. Yeah. That Kraft Inter vet. When I'm in the grocery store I like to read it as Parmesan. Parmesan. Yeah.

Sure. Otherwise. You're an asshole. In my in my head. Yes. Yes you are. You sound so faint. That's like what we were talking about the other day where I said I had said something

in my life and you were like I am mad at you for saying this thing in your own life. In your own life. It didn't happen to me. I'm upset. Yeah. You brought us back some goodies too. Yeah. I brought you back some multi-flavored Oreos and Oreo pudding and stuff.

Specifically since my girlfriend invited some Oliver friends over here to celebrate. Your fiance. My fiance. My fiance. My fiance. My fiance. My fiance. My fiance.

My fiance. My fiance. Mine's falling. One of the girls saw one of these Oreos that you brought and goes raspberry Oreos and we go try them and they're a big hit. How were they? They're a big hit. I don't like them.

Yeah they're so much. Sick. That was the one I didn't try. Yeah. They're good. They're good. Awesome. Glad you liked it.

Otherwise after an amusing conversation with Pat about how he hates puzzle games. I hate them. I played through road not taking Metrico and the swapper this week. Just 100%. Wow. You were all fantastic, radically different types of puzzle games, Metrico was so not a disappointment. He has every input on the machine.

I went to go look it up after you talked about it and I'm like this is getting that part of me that was all drawn to Echo Chrome. Right. It's pulling that out of me and I'm like I really am curious about this game. It's similar. It's a short game but it's just awesome. It just asks you to really think outside the box. It's the first game that I've run into in a long time where I'm like is this a progression

blocker or am I dumb? The answer is you're dumb. I'm dumb. I eventually finished it but what a fucking bang on puzzle game. Kudos to those guys. It was their first game too. Wow. Yeah.

Really impressive. Did you have dreams I think? Really good game. So yeah. I'll hand it off to Pat. It's a lie. I was going to. I don't have anything.

Well because I was going to go with the sword art talk. Oh right. The transition. No you've got to talk about a thing. Hold on. Can you show that off? So hold on. The first thing I want to talk about I want to say three or four sentences.

I saw it hurting into the galaxy. Boy that's a good movie. Isn't it? It's pretty good. It's a good movie. It's about jerks in space. Yup. That's the genre.

You mean what a bunch of A-holes. Yeah. I mean the genre of jerks in space. No what I mean is that when that first trailer came out and then the movie says man these guys are a bunch of jerks. Yeah. I like this part. I love it.

It's kind of campered by its rating but otherwise I really like it. You definitely got the feedback going in before that messed up. You got everybody hyping it up for you before you went in so you definitely went in with expectations set but I just think they fucking nailed that formula. It was great. There was some bits where Star Lord was very clearly going to say what the fuck and they cut it off because it was just a kids thing and it's just jarring. No but it's like it just felt a bit jarring.

James Gunn has a particular style of directing that it's hard to identify as his but if you've seen his other work you can tell he does these things. He's super and yeah exactly and when he's got a ton of money I love seeing directors that are like yeah I don't care if I've got a budget. I want to do my getaway. So like for example the title card drop in it is just so like eh whatever because that's what he does you know it's fucking yeah. So I watched two shows this week about one of which and the most important of which is

the one Liam brought up we have to talk about Star Dark again. The reason why we have to talk about it is because I'm really mad at myself and I think Liam's also getting really mad at myself because as of episode six like everyone's like getting back into it. Why is the quality going up? Why is the quality going up? Why is it getting better? Why am I being fooled?

Why am I fooling myself? Is it magic? Is it? Maybe it is. There was that point where the guy showed his arm and I was like oh it's that guy and I was like well fuck me I'm a piece of shit. I am a piece of garbage. I understand.

No you don't. No. You don't want to. You're saying you are or you're saying the character. I'm a piece of garbage. Pat's saying me. Pat. Because he's getting suckered back here.

I'm getting suckered back here. Yeah because the quality is fine now and I can forget all the horrible and just go back to like but MMO stuff though. Yeah exactly. And it's just kind of fun. I'm fucking weak. I'm fucking weak. So to take the taste out of my mouth on that I watched the first 25 episodes of EPO.

Yeah. That came in last night and I was on episode three and now I'm like. Oh wow so you just did all the rest that day. Yeah. Well I was like oh wow this seems like weirdly low build up for the final episode for episode 26. I shouldn't sleep tonight. And then I scrolled down and was like oh oh no no no there's like 78 of these.

78 to OVS. Yeah and then that's in the other two series. But both of those are 25 and then you can truly enjoy Victoria's Boxers. I mean a weird place with EPO because it's a really good thing and it's just really simple and I really appreciate it but it's weird because the first thing I ever ever ever ever saw of EPO is the best part of EPO which is the Dempsey role. So I'm watching it and this is when I assumed it was only 26 and I'm like 23, 24. I'm like when is he going to learn how to do the Dempsey role.

To the point where I wickied it and it was like in episode 60 or two. Wow. What? But it's nice to see them working towards that. And so many of these kinds of shows. He also has to build up like moves that preceded this one. Yeah well yeah in so many shows they're like I'm going to teach you the new move that'll make you a badass and then the character just shows up with the new badass move.

But this I can see where it's like well in this fight he learned how to duck and weave and in this fight he learned how to do hooks. And it seems like sports anime. And a natural extension. Probably my favorite part of EPO is it's really rigid structure of hijinks, training, montage, fights, and every single time it has the same thing where it's like oh man that guy is so strong how am I going to beat him. I beat him and coach is like good job.

And then the next day it's like okay so that guy, that guy was carpet. Yeah. And that guy sucked. Literally nothing. It's very punch out in that way that you build up and you finally beat that guy. That guy was nothing. This guy a hundred times stronger than that guy. At least a hundred times.

And like it repeats like verbatim over and over and over. Really good. Really great. I love it. You get to that hijinks episode where EPO is like shown naked. Yeah that's like episode four or five. Well is it the episode where people make fun of him for a particular reason? Every single episode that has that happened.

He's fucking hung and all the guys laugh at him because he's so hung. So the way it is demonstrated is there's a giant mosaic over him and another taller stronger guy and when they zoom in on the mosaic there's a kitten noise for the other guy and there's an elephant voice screaming for EPO. And then when girls see this they run away screaming for EPO because one was green. But then when the credits fade to black one of them goes wow. Yeah. Yeah you seem really obsessed with that bit because every time I talk about EPO you're

like when his dick is huge right? Well it's just so weird because I never watched an anime that especially a one that's long enough that has will go into that type of stuff. Was any of that in Try Gun? Was any of that in the series? No. Well Vash takes his clothes off and gets a very different reaction. And I don't watch sports animes in general just like because this is basically to me

just a fighting anime like grappler back here or whatever. So when it got to that part I'm like wait why are people making fun of his dick? I don't like that's every- Because it's 70's Japan. I guess. It's the equivalent of the on-send scene where women are comparing their chest bust sizes. And the way they do that is by rubbing them together.

Yeah. It's the only- It's really zoom. It's the only way. It's the only way. That's how they do it on the other side of the wall. The last couple of like the last 25 episodes of Ipa like the series that you're on are like far and away the best parts of it.

And the other two series are just really like condensed and very like focused and those are like- I'm gonna beat the guy. I'm gonna beat him. Because I told you that like it stops focusing on Ipa because they know we can't focus on this one guy, feed everyone all the time so they focus on other boxes and their problems are completely different. That's cool.

It's interesting that you went to that right there because I was actually getting ready to start it myself. It's real good. We're on a similar timing. I'm a big fan of all his rivals so far. Probably my favorite is Onozuma, the black guy from Okawa, which they played perfectly in which they see the photo and he looks like a badass and everyone's like oh shit a black guy.

Yeah he's a black. Just straight up. And when Ipa runs into him his pupils disappear and he's like a foot taller and he's just the scariest guy ever and he's like oh hey and he's the nicest, sweetest guy ever. He's adorable. I love him. He's really sweet. He shows up later too.

Of course he does. I have a strong feeling that every villain that is not a straight piece of shit comes back and in the later it's like oh now I can do twice as many punch. If they introduce a character who fills his punching bag with kittens then he's probably not coming back. Also I'm not big in a boxing as a sport but I really appreciate the amount of time spent on a boxing that's lame. That arc in which he's fighting a guy who is a lame boxer who just constantly clenches

and has the worst matches possible. But he still wins. But he wins. Yeah. Because fuck those guys. Because it goes through every style. That's like Jit, Justin Wong, Turtle style boxing. I hate it.

I hate Justin. It's legit. It's legit. And in terms of other stuff, Liam got really excited when I told him that I was going to fight, that I finally hopped on Legends of Heroes, Trails in the Sky, which is that Exceed RPG. You didn't tell me but I'm happy. I told you.

When? Like three days ago. And you were like oh is that great? Oh on the phone. Yeah. Yes you did. You're right. You're right.

Fucking great game. It's super good. I know. And Exceed has talked a lot about how like oh we really want to bring this series over. But it's super hard. It's really hard to translate because I always thought that was ridiculous because it looks like a 2002 era PS2 game that disappeared that just didn't come out but now it's out. And then I played it and it has the most absurd amount of dialogue I've ever seen in any game

ever. So yes it's hard to translate. Not only is there the most absurd amount of dialogue but there's a new one that comes out in Japan just about every year. Yeah. That's the one you were saying is like the most ridiculous. You can't localize the next one before the next one's out. So I talked to Willie about this a little bit but Matt almost explained it to you as

well as our listeners. I'd love to see the stats because when we're doing localization QA they go like X million words for this game. This is 1.5 million words apparently. And so the deal is Willie you had a really high Persona 3 play time because you talk to everybody every day right? But those comments didn't actually rotate every day. No.

They rotated like once a week. Twice a week. You can literally hear those trails in the sky in every single stage of plot. Every new step of the area it's like we need to go to the cave. Okay now you've gone to the cave but you didn't beat the cave. Every NPC in what appears to be the entire game has a completely unique string of dialogue. And I played it for maybe five, six hours and encountered 25 sets of dialogue among 30 characters.

And then now I don't care. Now I stopped because I don't give a shit anymore. It seems so useless like it makes it so impossible to localize for like this feature that I now hate. Well it's something that I picked up with P4 now as well which is like I don't have to talk to everybody. Just let you talk to whoever incidentally and it'll spice up your playthrough and just take it as good.

You're not supposed to do it like you and me do it. You're not supposed to talk to everyone. You're supposed to talk to the people that you happen to walk by and then you get the bits and pieces and like one or two people around town have little storylines going on throughout the game. Isn't that what the same sort of behavior that ruined like Assassin's Creed 3 for you where you're not supposed to try to do everything right off the bat and then you did and then you didn't want to play the ass.

I'm just like I'm going to do all these side quests and they're not designed to be done. And you burn out around 40 hours. That's right. Maybe a third of through the game. This game is the weirdest enjoyment I've ever gotten because it is so fantastically average. Like it's really really by the numbers. It's really simple. It's a really traditional JRPG.

Even the name sounds really good. It's like you and your buddy are joining the local monster killing guild and you're going to solve town problems. And her dad is the super badass. He has to leave. And you're just like the it's the most simple shit ever but it's just really well written. The western equivalent would literally be go fight the rats in the bars. Yeah.

While I like them that's kind of why I burn town and stop playing tales games because tales have the same problem. Well this is like that. Is that they're very generic plots. But it's much better written than a tale game. Very well written. Yeah. I really enjoy that the first cut scene has the loner kid with the double swords as Curito

show up at your house but you don't play as him. You play as the Sundari chick and all the decisions made in the game are from her point of view which that's nice. A good change. Yeah. I would have been really bored playing it. Do you get to choose your sins and options while talking. Get in there.

Okay. Get in there. You have a Japanese Vita or a second Vita right. I have three Vitas. If you. Well he has one. Yeah. The missus has the other and I have mine.

If you grab one of your Vitas and just make a Japanese. I don't have the ability to do that. Very easy. You can grab the demos for the new ones and just see where it's gone because the big 3D world is really cool. Yeah. The big 3D worlds of the game will play in like 12 years maybe. Well if you want to.

No. I don't want to see it. Right. I want to pretend those games don't exist. Until they're localized. All right. That's my week. Okay.

I did it. It was only me that could have done it when I managed to have my week. I guess I started it out watching you got divorced. Yeah. Just the cycle of life. Wait we didn't do one for me. It's too late now. You just died.

I just died. I died. Yes. You're dead. Thanks death gun. Unfortunately your lifestyle determined your death style. Okay. In the database.

Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow.

Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow.

Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. We're talking to the podium all the time.

He was the director. He basically was catching you up on this was what happened in between this scene. Oh really? Yes. Because every time. I skipped seven different points and every time was just the guy at the podium. So I figured there was nothing there level painful. He served as the transition from one scene to another.

Yeah. And it was interesting because apparently they didn't get a chance to rehearse they just kinda got together. It was kind of an off the cuff. They yeah and they're like oh shit what are you doing next week kind of thing you know and then they just really pulled it off and they straight up were like yeah if mistakes happen this is live. Yeah.

And no they had a really good time doing it it was fun it was a great watch. I'm really happy because when they got to the big finale they decided to do the alternate ending which you may quote unquote alternate ending. Special alternate ending. Yes. No. Everything just goes musical. Oh that one.

They named the video alternate ending but it was never intended any sort of ending. But you know this one they did that. Musical ending is pretty good. Yeah. No man and all in all like it's just a fun like little hour long thing. Yeah. I just should check it out. Still what a weird thing to even make a thing.

We're making a movie. You know to celebrate the release of the 60 FPS. Of double the game. But usually when you celebrate the release of a game you invite a bunch of rich assholes to like a function. You know what I just realized with the multiplayer is also double the frame rates it's like four times the game. Holy shit.

That's a lot of value. It's a lot of value. They also got the composer of the theme to come out and play the theme live. Yeah. The Spanish guy. Exactly. And that is a fantastic song. Well that was interesting too because it's a great song and his music throughout the

game is so good but it's so understated so you don't really remember until he's playing it and you're like yeah. I bought the soundtrack for that like the game was available and I was just listening to it. It's fucking amazing. A good song. Yeah. I love that song.

And then believe it or not there's more than one song. I've listened to the whole soundtrack. It's all fantastic. And you're like oh yeah that was a song that you guys forgot. I remembered that as an emotion. Yeah. Well that's the point isn't it. Yeah I don't suppose it is.

I tried and fucking nailed it though. Yeah they pulled it off and you know Keely did his bit and then I would like to see things like that in the future where appropriate. Yeah. Do a Metal Gear one. Well I would love a Metal Gear you say that but I would unironically love it exactly because the main thing about this was it wasn't like it wasn't as serious as you'd expect it to be.

Yeah. There were very loose. Metal Gear is absurd on its face and it would be absurd when it's being serious and it would just be a big two hour lead up to did you like it. Yeah. Yeah. And then they fly Kajima out like Spider-Man. Yeah.

Cause like they do like Peter Panning over the audience. They do a really serious scene and then like the director come out and be like holy shit they're good. Yeah. Well right where we're going like they were really just loosened about it. And I think Metal Gear would be fucking perfect for that. Totally. One like bummer was like the guys in charge of the lighting and transitions with the mics

like kind of fucked up a couple times and didn't know where to cut or what to end. So like at one point you hear like director guy backstage going like where's the porn magazine like just over the mic because that's the next scene that was coming up. Yeah. And then of course the last line in the fucking game right like where Joel is confronting Ellie and they're talking and the last thing she says is okay but she's pausing for dramatic effect and then the lights go out because they thought it was over and then they're like no.

No. And then she says she kind of leans back out and goes okay type of thing. That's all you had. Very loose. Yeah. Was it the same guys who did Sony's Gamecom last year? It's like wrestling. I don't know.

Okay. None of us watched that. This happened during Sony's Gamescom last year. The camera guy was just fucking drunk. Whoa that is weird. Yeah. Like he's just zooming in. He's just zooming all over the place.

Yeah. But it was really the same people. It was a fun watch and I guess the other thing of note was I got Billy's magical external hard drive filled to the bursting with Tokusatsu shit so just every fucking Kamen Rider, every fucking season of Garou, all this good shit and I'm just going to drown myself in it and I'm about to wrap up on Kamen Rider Double and I'm going to start a series on my own. I'm going to watch O's right after that but what I'd like to do is put the announcement out there that Liam, I'm going to kidnap you and we're going to marathon Gaim at the same

time. Good. What I'm going to watch. At some point in the near future. What's going on? I've been making calls recently. It's the current Kamen Rider going on right now. I'll watch that.

So that's going to happen and well, no, not if the van drives by you as a kid and they're like, oh, we don't want that one. No, don't want the value. No, well, he's on there and fluff me. Then you have to invite Woolly to continue Epo with you. No, I was going to say, no, you can fuck right off with that. You're going to love to watch it. Okay.

Thanks for inviting me guys and when I went to see Guardians of the Galaxy, all I could think about was I'm so glad I didn't invite Matt when I wasn't here. There wasn't even your face, married guy. And yeah, I also want to put out that very, very soon we're going to do a persona spoiler cast. Okay. So we're going to do it. That was Christmas, motherfucker.

Yeah. Did you do it? I was saving the day on it, but then I went back to see. Did you do it? Good. You did it. It's good. No, I'm honestly right now.

I'm standing in front of the true final box. Oh, that's quite. Yes. I don't believe you also. I think you're wrong again. No, I'm standing in front of the final box. What day is it? Don't worry about it.

And I'm simply waiting to go. I just want to go beat the Reaper. Yeah. I got to go find the Reaper out just to do it and then I'm going to do the thing. But yeah, no, I'm ready for a long ending. I'm sure. Sure. I'm all but done.

And there's stuff that you need to find out about. Yeah, I know. I know. I know. So like when I get around to beating the golden first. I have to golden it all. It's because we can't do a spoiler cast until you're done with that shit. No, we know we can.

Okay. I waited to it. There's really no, like I was nothing. You can be cool. Okay. So here's, here's what happened. Like the day after golden came out in Japan, I saw like the ending shot because I didn't care.

I was just like, I need it. Sure. Sure. I need it. And it's a good shot. I like that picture. Yeah. But like you're missing like an entire.

Yeah, I'll get to it. Fuck her. But Willie, if they announced Persona 3 golden today, you wouldn't want to play through person. No, I totally. I totally understand it. Exactly. So far, these two games have been a great DLC campaign to P4 Arena.

The true game. I would still argue they're all DLC to Dancing All Night. Oh, that's the twist. Dancing All Night is really the core. That's the most absurdly valuable DLC I have ever heard of. You clearly haven't seen Persona 3 yet. All of this was just to make the fighting game even better. The two core tillers of Persona fighting and dancing.

Hey, I'll take it. But not even that far from any other genres. Yeah. Wifu? Dance fight. I really, really desperately want Persona Ultimate Frisbee. That's where it's going next. Like you say Wifu, but I just go like, is there not a dating sim app out there somewhere?

Have you not played Persona? Have you not played Persona? I know. I know. I know. Exactly. But that's what it is. You'd wonder if someone would just like shove it on a phone and have it just be.

Just cut out all of it. It was just the Wifu ones. Cut out the fat. Yeah. Saving the world. Yeah. Exactly. Who you hanging out with?

You want to see that school uniform? Yeah. I saw it. Yeah. I saw it. Good, eh? Yeah. That's not bad.

Best girl. Yeah. Boo! Anyway. We can't... Is there any news? There is some news. That spoiler cast is going to be a war zone.

It's going to be a war zone. And I'm like, I want Matt to come in as like the I-Ebihara fan that's like, yeah, I. I hate her. Anyway. Video games happened. Whatever. So you were telling me about how video game stuff happened like hours after you finished last week.

So what I want to do is open up the segment like we missed it by a minute. Yeah. Which is the rest of the boring master. Straight up we talked about the rumors and then we walked out of the house and it was announced. And it was announced. Yeah. So we'll begin with that.

Remake is real. It's getting ported. Re-remake. Re-remake is ported and they're using the same... A remaster of a remake. It's not a remaster. It's a port. It's the same assets up like upscaled and the widescreen mode.

Yeah. They're cleaning up the models. I think the addition of the... 2D mode. Yeah. Well, the redone controls. Well, no. The reason I say 2D mode is because in Silent Hill 2 you had 3D mode.

And 2D mode. And that's what... It was the same control options. And that's how those are denotated. Yeah. In this... It's like 3D because it's positional and then 2D where it's just assuming you have a flat screen.

And I think you're totally right. It's going to feel like Devil May Cry. Yeah. And it's going to fuck that game up. Don't play it like that. It can't be controlled. So the question is, does the character still need to turn? Who?

Like... Yeah. They might not. Well, that game just becomes a hilarious cakewalk. Yeah. Yeah. The whole thing is that, especially for Remake or just the original Resident Evil, is because you're hampered because your controls are not as responsive as you like and that's what

makes it... The game was built around those controls. That's what makes it scary. It's like, shit, I can't, I'm running into this fucking crap and there's spiders stinging my asshole. But as games approach reality where you don't have things like that, if you made a movie you wouldn't have a character that had to stop and turn to get away from the threat. No, but the whole reason this is being released is because people think this is the best classic

Resident Evil. The movie analogy would be a cameraman that cannot follow the action and obscures action from a monster thus making the scene scarier. Like there's a one to one here. It's like my constant argument with RE4, it's like with the pointer controls, the tension is gone because Leon becomes Superman with his god. It just becomes a really fun game. And you have to put it on the hardest difficulty for it to be even like approaching it.

I could totally see that. I could totally see that. But also, I'm going to say this right now, Remake, to me, Remake is the best classic Resident Evil by like, I like it better than RE2 by like a wide margin. I think it's better. Just because it's... Remake? Yeah.

It's better than RE2. If RE2 got remade though, that would be... Oh, yeah. Yeah, I'd say. But we'll never get that. Maybe if you buy lots of stuff, it's fine. You know what? Maybe if you buy lots of stuff.

If Remake has a big hit, who knows? Maybe. Oh, no, wait. Just like every other Capcom test. You never got it with new series. You never got what you wanted. But it's Resident Evil. Like, that's the difference.

You never got... No, I'm brought... Do you not remember Umbrella Chronicles of Darkseid Chronicles? No, no, that's not what... That's not my point. It's not my point. It's not my point. It's not my point.

It's not your point. It's not your point. I mean, if that one's its mainliner is an evil, you know? If this one's a hit, you know, they'll reach back. I gotta think there's a bunch of... It's gotta be a hit. There's gonna be a bunch of kids playing it for the first time ever. Yeah, and they're gonna be like, whoa, this is dog shit.

My diaper... Well, for starters, they're gonna go straight to 3D controls then. Or 2D controls or whatever it is. Well, it might be defaulted to that. Like RE5 is defaulted to TwinStick. Oh, so you think they're gonna put that as, like, the new game default. No. 3D, it's gonna be...

It might even have to change it. It's a prompt when you press B. Right when you start the game, it's gonna say, do you want to go hiking or mountain climbing? Yeah. And then it'll be like, it'll have some other metaphor for control. Hiking or mountain climbing. You never played Remake? When you start Remake, it asks you which...

No, not hiking. It's like, what is it? It's like a... I can't remember it all. A trailblazing? Like what? No, it's hiking or mountain climbing. It's like an easy path.

Well, for hiking, an easy path is enjoyable. Yeah, I love that description. Mountain climbing is beyond hardship lies accomplishment. Yeah, that's the best description. And that's your difficulties. I personally would love to see when that comes out. You guide Woolly's hips through that, and Woolly has to use tank controls. And mountain climbing.

You think that Dark Souls 2 went long. Yeah. That would be epic. I don't think Pat has the patience to watch, like, incompetent RE1 play. Controls, especially. Yeah. That could be brutal, actually. The problem with that is that speed matters.

And you can fuck yourself into an unwinnable game in that. Yeah, you can. I shot all the bullets in the game. Right. There are no more bullets. Game over. I'd want to learn to just knife anything anyway. Well, you can.

Well, great. In CVX, you can. Nothing else. RE4. The other... Yes, I've done it. You're right. You, the knight, takes, like, 100 stabs to kill a zombie.

It's obscene. The other news that was, you know, missed it by a minute was the Ganon trailer. Yeah. Fuck. We got brand new news about that right now. We do. So straight up the playable Ganondorf... What do you think about that new...

Ganon with dreads. Do it. Well, like, that's the thing. At first I thought it was just, oh, is that what Twilight Princess Ganon looked like? Oh, no. It was because I was mixing up his beast form and his regular form and had this kind of... They gave the Ganon hair to Ganondorf. That fucking mover, he just throws his...

Well, it looks more like Demise. Yeah, he looks a little bit like Demise. From the Skyward Sword. He doesn't know exactly. Did he beat it yet? He didn't beat it. Okay, well, you don't fight Ganonorf at the end. You fight Demise.

Because Demise didn't scan it. And he's got big long red hair. It's the highest version again. It's so cool. He's the first. I like the Twilight Princess one the most, but whatever. Yeah, I like Twilight Princess one the most because he looks like an evil king like he's supposed to look like.

He looks like the demon king. But fortunately, now, if you pre-order at the right places, you can get that for Ganonorf. It's not even a pre-order. You just register on Club Nintendo. So that's what's going on with it is they've announced, as well, with Hyrule Warriors that there's going to be costumes for Ocarina and Twilight. Ocarina, Twilight, and Skyward Sword. Oh, but not all of them because not Ganon.

Yeah, not Ganon for Skyward. Because Ganon doesn't appear in Skyward Sword. And yeah, they have the same thing for Zelda and same thing for Link. I think when we were talking about pre-order stuff before, I said this is the one that really bothers me when it's retailer exclusive. So we have retailer exclusive stuff that's, yeah, you can only get this pre-order costume if you buy it from this place. Ocarina of Time is at GameStop.

Twilight is at Amazon. It's Amazon and Best Buy has Skyward Sword. Everyone figures probably rightfully so that you wait long enough and you're going to get them all available. It's not even a question. Has there been a game where it hasn't done that? I think the worst one ever was... Mortal Kombat was really bad for a while.

Mortal Kombat was Arkham City where it took a year for those costumes to come out. What was there as well going... In Japan, there's a version that has everything that you could just pay for. The treasure box. You don't get that option here, unfortunately. In Europe, there's a special edition with a scar. If that comes out here, the treasure box, if it's like $100, I don't fucking care. Just give me all of it and the scar.

It's at a clock. It's coming out here. It's like the last 30 seconds of every one of those trailers. It's always that. They play the great fairy music. That lulls you into a sense of, I'm not getting screwed here. Yeah. 30 bucks for a digital clock.

Damn. That being said, I'll probably actually get the Twilight Princess one. Yeah, same here. I was going to buy them all anyway, so it doesn't really bother me. What do you mean? I was going to buy all the DLC costumes anyway. When they come out. I'm glad I can get one for free.

Yeah, but I'll start with that. I'd be less happy if all of them were just purchased and no free ones. I'd be happier if they were all the fucking game like they're supposed to be. I guess, but I just don't like the wait thing, man. No, of course, but in a world where they're going to be paid DLC, I'm glad I can get one for free. Yeah. It sucks, though. It's probably not going to be a week.

That being said, I'm not sure if you guys talked about it, but that Hyrule Warriors Direct, which confirm playable Ghirahime and playable Zant. Like I said, all the bosses playable. Because the last time we talked about Hyrule Warriors, that was not confirmed yet. No, I know. And you were like, I'm sure there'll be, and we were like, oh, I really want playable Zant, and then play Zant turns into like a giant. You're 50 foot tall and does body slams.

I think the guys in charge of this are just fanboys too that are like, fuck yeah, you want that. They're doing good with this, man. I'm a bit bummed that there's really not as much content from the handheld games in Wind Waker as I would have wanted. I was really happy to see that Chain Chomp skin for the ball and chain, which is from Link's Awakening, which is my favorite one. But no Wind Waker stuff. Save it for the sequel?

Very little Majora stuff, just the moon. Save it for the sequel? Yeah, not much for the run-up. For something that is a celebration of the franchise, I was really hoping for a bit more, hopefully in the sequel. Either that or just through NPCs and stuff in-game. If the content's hidden in the game, fine. Absolutely okay.

Also, there's a direct, like there wasn't as much stuff like that. I'm sure you can expect a level dedicated to each game at the very least. I hope so. What appears to be the final roster of characters, not characters with weapons, is that? Yeah. And it's 13 people. Yeah, because it's not 13 sets of gameplay because Lake has three different characters or is there 13 characters?

Well, I'm really hoping Ganon has an unarmed fist. Like, you know what I mean? You just want Smash. You won't just do that. Smash Ganon is cool. Also, the final boss is out. No shit. Okay.

Sure. Okay. Amazing. So, yeah. Giant Kuko. Yeah, that's what it is. Yo, the Kuko faction is sick. When you can get Kukos to fight for you?

Oh, that. Finally. It's interesting because like, you know, Zelda is a series that goes on and they always, like, redo the designs and whatnot. But Ganon is a design that, like, just keeps getting better. Yeah. Yeah, like Ganon is just what I mean. Fuck, that's amazing.

It's not hard every time. It's even better when that first design is like a pile of rotten garbage. The pink? Yeah. It's great. The pink Ganon from Zelda board. It's great. Yeah, but that was perfect for that game.

I guess. But even, like, with the introduction of Ganondorf, the human, like, every step of the way has been a step up. Yeah. It's weird. It's also, even when it's different, it's still awesome. Like, when wake her Ganon, it's like, I can just, like, oh, when wake her Ganon, it's awesome.

He's fucking awesome. He's so cool. And then we'll do a completely different Ganon. And, like, Linkens all have differing opinions. Like, a lot of people don't like Skyward Sword Link or Toon Link. Or Toon Link. But Ganon, every game, doesn't fucking matter. When wake her Ganon was so good, they made a figure for him.

Like, you know what? You don't just do that. Get CDI Ganon, put him in Hyrule. I like that one. Obviously, the best Zelda characters. Oh my god. Oh god. If fucking, if DLC is revealed for CDI Zelda.

Oh man. I'd pay out the ass for that. I'd pay out the ass. How the ass. I could pay my ass for this till I could eat Octorok. Ha ha ha. I can't wait to eat some Dodongos. My boy.

I would love for them to just be a stage that's the CDI adventure. Like, if Capcom can put the Bad Box or Mega Man, it's a little bit like Bad CDI Zelda. I was happy to see that Adventure Mode shown off, because there was a couple screens of the Zelda 1 map with all the stuff on it. But it was all Japanese, so I was like, what is this? Oh, you didn't watch the Direct? I missed that. Okay, well, the Adventure Mode's sick.

It's just trials and stuff. With the camera in Zelda 1 mode? Yeah. Okay, that's fun. No, it's trials. The map, it goes around the map. It's like Weapon Master, if it was on the Zelda 1 map. Oh, okay.

Got it. Actually, that's really weird. That's a really good comparison. Pat yourself. I'll go back. Pat yourself. Do it. There you go.

That's the sound. The other related thing to that is when we're talking about fucking pre-order DLC at retailer-specific pre-orders, Lara Croft. Yeah, what was that? So that's another thing going on right now. So Lara Croft. Can I say this? Yep.

So whatever. Guardian of Light 2. Guardian of Light 2. Is coming out and they're doing the thing. The first thing that I said when I saw this game to myself and then I talked to you guys about it is like you can just like put every skin in there. Everything. Is that a digital game?

Yeah. It's getting a physical release. Oh. But once you establish that like you'll put fucking legacy of Kane characters in the original. Yeah. Why? You couldn't just say Kane. But they put Kane and Lynch.

Yeah. So like now that you've got like Lara Croft with Agent 47 gear and like all the people to match. They look better with the dance gear. No, I like suits. Okay. I like a Shry Night Sharks suit. Sure.

They both look good. So is it just skins? It's skins and one is a Steam pre-order and the other is a Amazon pre-order or retail or whatever. And yeah. It's just another case of like you know like if you want to use either one too bad for you and they're announcing that there's a season pass as well that will get you all kinds of content for like DLC that's going to come out.

But it's just going to be more skins, right? No. Other stuff. Items, levels. Yeah. There's a level. There's like going to be a big elaborate thing. Are you going to say there's a level editor?

There's a big plan for more levels and content and stuff. Like sleeping dogs? I think sleeping dogs levels of DLC. If not. How many pieces of DLC was ever sleeping dogs? Because I looked at something. Like 19. No.

24. Over 23. 23. Okay. Well not including the costumes and shit. There's a lot more. Well I read in the press release it said there's 23 pieces. Oh and they went heavy on it.

So since you're talking about that. Heavy dogs. Heavy dogs. Heavy dogs. Sorry. I don't know. I was just going to say that like there's a season pass you can get for Lyrocroft. But the season pass does not include these pre-order costumes.

Why would it do that? Oh that's garbage. So it's a bit of a- No. No. Wally. Fuck you. Why would it have that?

It's like you're paying for the content. No. No. You don't understand. Fuck you. Fuck me. Yeah. Okay.

Says Square Enix. Yeah. That happened with- And GameStop and Amazon. They actually made content. Like that was just not included. Not in the season pass. But they made new stuff that hadn't been announced and it just-

No. Not in season pass. Yeah. I just like fuck you. You're going to have season pass include everything. That's weird. Yeah. Because you're asking for-

Like that watchdog shit was an abomination. But if you got the season pass you got all the pre-order shit too. Which thing? Sorry. Watchdogs? Oh. All interviews. Yeah.

If you got the season pass you got almost all the pre-order stuff too. Yeah. So at least there was that. Fucking mess. Yeah. This is a weird- It's a weird thing. And I mean at the same time-

So boycott the game as a result. And the thing is like let's not ever forget the context that we're talking about like extra costume bullshit. Right. It's really boo. But still. I didn't know that because I was expecting to buy my boxed copy for 40 bucks which comes with the season pass.

And have my DX costume. But no. No no no. Shit. Well, Amazon. Here I go. You want the- Well I would go for the age of 47.

That's steam. Yeah. This conversation is disgusting. Yeah. I know. Like that's what happens. No it's not. What's weird here is that-

Here's what happens. You say this game looks good. I guess I'll buy it. And you ignore all of this. Hmm. You pretend like these things don't exist. Of course. Of course.

You guys gapping about the costumes is a little weird because in these Lara Croft games like you're really tiny on the screen. Yeah. And it's like Hyrule Warriors is one thing because you're right there in those cutscenes and everything. Yeah. But it was the same thing for the extra characters in the original game as well. Yeah I know.

I know. I think it's cool. But to like, oh I'm going to go for like, I just find like, yeah there need to have but the game is like they don't show me off that well. No we're not going to see them much for sure. I'm going to buy it. I'm going to get the DX ones. Fuck it.

Yeah. Not going to buy it. Like just somewhere in the end. We chose an interesting time to say jump on Twitch. Because like now Twitch- Which sucks now. Well it's all in the news with their changes to video on demand is causing like a bit of a stink with some people.

It's not perfect. One thing is like, things are not going to be archived forever which is understandable because that's a lot of fucking- It's a lot. Nothing. And like they showed the little chart that was like 80% of the views on a lifetime of video of its lifetime happened in the first 14 days. So you know when we have like 20 hours of something with 16 of those hours being not

much. Then like yeah, why are we going to hold on to that? So they're going to free up some of their space by deleting things eventually and they're pushing for highlights to be like a thing that you do. People that are worried about the Nuzlocke don't worry about it. I got it. It got it all. It's sitting there.

It's saved. So it's going to be around you know when the archives get auto deleted or whatever. The trick is to record while you're streaming. Yeah. Well there's a really good site that just rips it, which I sent to Woolly and it's fucking- And it's done. Yeah, it's so good. And then the other thing that's causing a stink right now is that they introduced a audio

detection like system into their video on demand. Hey people, when you were Twitch streaming did you happen to be playing rap music in the background? Rap music. The answer is yes, you were. So that's- Goodbye audio. That video's entire audio.

So here's the update to this story. Twitch came out and basically explained that none of this stuff is going to apply to the live stream. Yes. Which is why it sucks but it's like this will only apply to on demand stuff. Just put it somewhere else. Because that would be disastrous. No one can stop you from playing live rap music over your videos.

Nobody. Yeah. And the thing is, it seems like a lot of- Why? Because you imagine you had like 50 cent live rapping behind you and it got hit during the live version. It's like, yeah, I took it down. They are basically saying though that like this is, a lot of this is just them setting

up to get bought, you know, before that transaction goes down. They want to have like all sorts of legal things in place to make sure it's all airtight. They got to be clean. Got to be clean. Hide Zeke on the ceiling. No, I like it dirty. No, it's clean. Right.

So yeah, we'll see. I mean, I, like, when I look at it and go like it's the on demand stuff, frankly, to me at least, for anything that we do theoretically stream in the future, I'd grab it and put it up on not Twitch. Yeah, Twitch is for live. So I'm not- Speaking of live shit is, this is, I seriously doubt this had news relevancy because it passed and nothing ended up happening.

But you guys are familiar with that fish that's playing Pokemon now? Yeah. So much fish plays Pokemon. Okay, they do. Oh my God. I got a series of frantic Facebook messages from a friend of mine going, oh my God, I think the fish just died live. What?

No. Because it wasn't moving for like a long time. You sure that didn't happen? That happened constantly. Yeah, but then it was like, oh no, wait, it was just asleep. No, if you watched it long enough, you saw that happen many times. Yeah, but I think that's hilarious. That playthrough is never going to work.

It's at 170 hours. Last I checked, the time was 170 hours and he had barely made it out of Ash's house. I am baffled as far as he did, considering he's a fish who can't see the screen. The difference between Twitch plays Pokemon and fucking fish plays Pokemon is that Twitch, despite the chaos and what not, they all will eventually force it to take the worse. Also, they can see the screen. Yes. Also, the fish is essentially an RNG.

It's a completely random series of biased RNG. I have to just cut and ask, what's next? Nobody plays Pokemon and it's just the title screen and everyone's watching. What is next? Can we get on top of that? How can you top this? We can push that. Nobody plays Pokemon.

Nobody plays Pokemon. The next thing is going to be algorithms of keywords uploaded to RedTube. Are corresponding to directions and buttons. Google plays Pokemon. Yeah. The search results that are popping up. No, the trend results. Are you sure?

Yeah, yeah. No, it's just, it's never, ever going to fucking work, but I still watched a long amount of that shit. I don't know how long it was on, but it was on for a while. Speaking of, did you guys check in with Salty Pet recently? Yes, I did. They have improved the shit out of that website. I was watching it for like an hour this week.

It is way better and faster. It's great. Like everything about the match set up, like in some cases, in a lot of cases you get previews of what the matches are going to look like. This is coming next. There are now buttons for percentages of bets so that you don't have to type in your keyboard. You just mess with it with your mouse now. It's a lot easier.

We should watch that right after this. Just to see. It's really good. I would love to just open up and look at their Mugen code, just to see how far that shit's coming from. Also, I watched it for a couple of hours. The amount of viable characters in it now is like way higher than before. Like they're almost all viable.

There's almost no like, I'm going to just break and glitch into the sky characters remaining. And there are so many new ones that I have a feeling most of them were made after Salty Pet became popular. Bringing Mugen back. I'm so blown away by this fucking- I can't wait until there's a Salty Pet after my PS4. Yeah. So I can just download it and just watch Salty Pet in bed.

Well, the PS4 is a web browser, dude. You gotta- It doesn't have flash. Oh, let's- No, you gotta wait for the first takeover, corporate takeover of Salty Pet. Of Salty Pet. That introduces like a batch of characters from whatever game they're promoting. Well, dive kick.

Yeah, sure. You know, and then fucking- Lang, do a takeover of Salty Pet. That would be genius, actually. Perfect. That'd be crazy genius. They'd never lose. Yeah, dive kick and senior footsies.

Gotta get in there. Oh, man. Don't pick the same thing as Lang, though. Yeah. What was the third one after senior footsies? Dive kick, senior footsies, and- Fuck, what was the other game? There's a third one that teaches you about mechanics as well.

What was it? It was really- Yeah, it popped up. It was in our walls fighting. You mean Star Wall? Yeah, Star Wall. That's it. No, I love that fucking game.

Yeah, so whatever that was going on. Although, as we're talking about fighting game shit, did you see the add-on stick to your 3DS? Oh, it's terrible. What a piece of shit that thing is! To play the three fighting games that are on the 3DS. BlazBlue, Street Fighter, Dead or Alive and Tekken. There's more than a couple there. Tekken's good, actually.

I'm 3DS. But the buttons are still really small and you can't hold it like your thumb shut down. My issue is more that there's just not six buttons there. There's four buttons there. And then they put a button on each side for L and R. Just bullshit. So if you're holding the stick properly, when you have to press that trigger button on the left side, what the fuck are you gonna-

Also, the stick doesn't have click factor. It's just an add-on to it. So listen to the sound it makes. No sound. What a piece of shit. It reminds me- What a neat toy. But it reminds me of a little thing that Josh and I came up with back when we were in college.

We took a Nerf dart and it was one of the- Not the ones with the big styrofoam part, but it was just a thin inside. Cut that in half and stuck it on the DS screen and we played Mario 64. And that actually works. We had a stick that was like an analog stick fucking stuck onto the thing. You guys should be inventors. Yeah. Yeah.

You should make sticks or something. Yeah, I know, right? Like that's totally a viable business. And if people ride into the Super Best Friendcast, will you make them sticks? If you ask Willie on Tumblr, he has a higher chance of making sticks. Specifically through that route. Yeah, only that one. Yeah, that's a weird, weird periphery.

And I'd love to just get hands on- I really want to try it. To know- Maybe we should both just throw ten bucks under the bus and get one when you go to Japan. Oh, will it be available then? Then we'll just go import one. Yeah, let's just throw a couple bucks under the bus. Cause I just grab one.

We want to know. Yeah, me too. I'm all into bus throwing. Yeah. Throw some buses under buses. Yeah. Throw this bus under the bus. It's the last time you throw me under the bus.

I'm throwing you under the bus. Oh. Throw a bus under the bus. Good trade, good trade. And speaking of Japan, they've got some new crossover shit going on. I don't know if you saw any of the announcements, but one of the big ones being a superhero generation. The trailer for this thing dropped. Yeah, it's sick.

And it's fucking Super Robot Wars with Ultraman and Kamen Rider. Oh, fuck me. That's awesome. And it's just- Just get in it! Just get it! Just get it! Sentai in it!

Because it's got fucking Kamen Rider 4s, it's got Kamen Rider Double, it's got Unicorn Gundam, it's got fucking F91 Gundam, it's got at least five or six different Ultraman. There was a- You know, like versions. It's got fucking good idea. There was a PSP game like a year ago or two years ago that was the same exact thing, and I'm so happy they're playing it.

Yeah, I've heard of this type of thing before. Great. That combination. Great, the second one. That's a good idea. And you're watching- Yeah, you're watching because you're waiting for the ones that you know and you're into, and as soon as you see it, you're like, the voice is perfect.

That's it. Sound effects are perfect. That's what I need. That being said, I'm not gonna play it. I've played enough, like, fully Japanese Super Robot Wars games to know when to stop. And there is a time to stop is after the first one. Well- No, no.

Because then the big O gets introduced, and then virtual on gets introduced. How'd you enjoy Cross? Not boring. But that's- That- Yeah, no. That one should still be cautious. You should be cautious.

She should be cautious. But like- But every once in a while, they introduce that one franchise where you're like, fuck me, I need to get into shit. Well, because there's that one Super Robot Wars that has Grand Vagan. Exactly. But I'm not gonna play it. I'm not gonna play it.

I just watched the video. That was enough. There was a video- I saw somebody send me a video of Simon in Tengentapa teaching Shinji how to be a man. And I was just- Dude. Fuck. That's the fucking payoff.

And so many of these things is like the characters interacting with each other and just the lines they have. Like, I talk about how, you know, whatever Gundam's seen as a piece of shit, right? Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, and everyone knows it, including every other Mecha pilot out there in the history of Mecha. So that when the main character shows up and starts acting like a shit, fucking everybody. Everybody's like, what an asshole.

Right, right, right. Char is like, look at that piece of shit. I fucking hate him. That's how Batem translated it. It's great. It's really great when you see these guys coming together. So yeah, check that out. And they also notice at the exact same time something called Kamen Rider Summon Ride.

Yeah. Which is like- I remember when the news was breaking and there was no pictures and everyone was like, What? And then you see the pictures. Yeah. Take Skylanders, except your Skylander toys are all doing rider kicks. Oh!

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Skylanders formula just made sense in my brain. That one will never come to the West. Now I get it. Take your favorite rider and the game. Yeah. And you fucking put them together and they're literally all doing rider kicks. Which is a bit unfortunate.

I wish they were doing different things. No, no, no. No. Everyone do the same thing. Because they're doing the one that you know is theirs. No, I know. I saw them. They look great.

Every one of them looks great. But- But nothing. A kick is what needs to exist to destroy evil. Yeah. We need to kick evil. All evil needs is a kick. If you kick evil hard enough, it will fall down.

Yeah, and it might not get up. It will wait for you to make it to the front of the frame. Yeah, there in the background and then blow up. Absolutely. Stupid evil. It's the best. And then there's just a slew of little like indie things that have been popping up and whatnot. Good.

The two, I guess, that stood out for me was the dude that made Gunpoint, Tom Francis, he's working on a new game called Heat Signature. And he put out a little bit of footage of what this is going to be like. Now, I don't know if you guys touched Gunpoint a little bit about it. Sorry, Gunpoint. Yeah, Heat Signature didn't look- Is that anything like super hot? No.

Nothing like super hot. No, no, no. I know we've never talked about it before, but holy shit is super hot. It's super hot. Amazing. So Gunpoint is the shit. Yeah, that's it. And it's pretty good.

That is all. It's pretty good. This guy, and basically this new game is, it's like top view, you're in space, you're on a little spaceship and like you pick a, you can pick a class rather, thief or assassin. And then the whole game is like as you're going through space with your little like pixel graphics, you land on a spaceship, you dock on it without like them, anyone detecting you. And then as soon as your ship attaches to it, that ship you're on becomes a state of level. And you're moving in and out.

There's guards walking around, steal something, take out somebody, do the mission. That's pretty cool. And then make your way to the exit, detach and fly away. That's pretty cool. Or like take over that ship, use it to find an even bigger ship, blow a hole in like the side or blow the ship in half, go to the side that has the parts you want. And like hijack that while it's spinning into oblivion. Yeah, I like this.

So it's, yeah, it looks pretty fun and like, he's basically just like at the stage where he's like, I need an artist and I need some cool music guys. But the game itself, here you go, take a look. Yeah, that's cool. And this will later be turned into a manager motion picture, which is the greatest movie in the history of the world in the adventure time universe. The heat signature is the greatest movie to ever exist in adventure time. Oh, it's a movie.

Okay, sure. Remember when those guys were going to just murder Finn and they're like, holy shit, you haven't seen heat signature? I did not know. It's the name of the episode. Is it? Okay. It's been a while.

It's been a while. Fucking dropping facts. But no, that looks really cool. Also, the guy that was behind the Arcado, X-Blade games, is working on something called The Next Penelope, which looks... Dude, I'm so excited for the next penelope. I'm so excited. Very unfortunate title, because the game is not what that title...

The next Penelope sounds like a heartfelt Oprah book. The game's F-Zero. If a Captain Falcon's chick. And it's... Yeah, and it's top view. It's not a second game. It's called The Next Penelope. It's more than Odyssey.

It's more than just F-Zero. It's F-Zero with Lost Fuckets. It's F-Zero? Yeah. It's F-Zero, Geometry Wars. Yeah. Kind of. Yeah.

And like, Twisted Metal. Yeah, it looks like that. Yeah, it's absolutely great style going on for this game. Yeah, that game's... I can't wait. And it's... He's doing it by himself. Yeah.

You know? It looks super good. Yeah, and so it's coming out later this year for PC stuff, and then it's coming to Wii U next year, it seems. But yeah, just all this pre-gamescom little teases and trailers and whatnot. Yeah, absolutely. And I guess the one other thing that was... I think it happened just this morning, actually, was GameStop is planning to do...

Or is planning to revise their straight-in policies. No, this was a few days ago. This was a few days ago. Yeah. Okay, I didn't catch what I was talking about. Basically, the gist of it is like... Best Buy is kicking our asses in this straight-in business, because you can get so much more money at Best Buy.

So we're gonna... We're gonna get more money. We're basically just gonna up trade in values 20% across the board. So they're doing that, and they're making it so that... There's more or less a... It's not constant bonuses and specials. Well, usually it's gonna be more raw value. Well, there's a 20% increase across the board, but it's also that...

It's like, are you trading it in for store value credit, store credit, or cash? Yeah. Then they add a hard number percentage. So it's an equation that you can just run through and try. So it's easy, because the guys at GPDs who are figuring out all the bullshit ways that you can scan these systems, they're actually gonna get hurt by this. But everybody else who does trade in something, which should be no one, will get a slight benefit. You can still game it.

Don't trade in your stuff. No, I don't. I would have been really hyped for this five years ago when I was broke, and I had to trade in stuff. Yeah, me too. But that being said, I'm eyeing this keenly because my colleague have watched that. Yeah, you know what? We're never gonna get back to the days. I might wanna sell my copy of Wash Dogs, but I would be pissed if I had to do something with it later.

Let me put a little asterisk on that and say, don't trade in stuff that you cared or care about at all. That being said, we are never going to get back to the golden age of return it within two weeks, and just use $60 to rent 14 games in a row from GameStop. You mean the scam age? Yeah, the scam age. The age that can no longer be repeated because no money is made. Well, I made money through opportunity costs. Yeah, but that's bullshit.

I was broke! I know, but still, you're totally gaming the system. I was buying legit copies! And then trading them for another copy. That's on them! Their system was busted. That's why we can never go back. Not my fault!

I know, but that's why we can never go back. Whatever the system is, people will find a way, man. Of course. But yeah, I see that as what Walmart gets, Walmart's kicking our asses. That's fine. That's fine. It's the one that their traded values are really high compared to GameStop. They're crazy.

Trade in any two pieces of garbage for day one. Full games. Sometimes. And the other thing is that I just expect... I jump the gun so far every single time whenever the topic comes up, but I expect to see massive, massive changes to the way they handle all sorts of stuff in brick-and-mortar stores because... Digital's not as big as you would think.

It's only like 15-20% on the new console. On PC, it's fucking everything! But what I mean is all you gotta do is wait. Yo, yeah! It's 20% now, and it hasn't even been a year since the new consoles came out. Just wait! Like, on Vita, digital sales are quite high. 50% in dollars.

So eventually, bandwidth is still a problem. Like, they just announced fucking Diablo 3's gonna be 62 gigs on PS4. 67. 67 gigs on PS4, despite it only being 14 on PC. That's horseshit. It's that new Last of Us level. What's the thing that recently got that update that's like, insanely huge? Any given Xbox One game?

Yeah, the Xbox One game is regularly getting 3 to 10 gig patches. Something on Vita. Vita, no. Killzone gets like gigabyte patches that kill it on the Vita. But I vividly remember the right one. When the X-Phone came out, there was a dead-rising patch. Yeah, it was dead-rising. That's because of the chunk system.

They need to change that super bad. Are we allowed to explain that? Because I'm so frustrated with people not knowing that. No, we're not. Exactly. So words, we gotta move on. They gotta go public with that. Stupid chunks?

Yeah. But on paper, it makes things better. Steve recently totally overhauled their system to get rid of their own chunk system. Not quite. But anyway. Well, the patch sizes are way lower than they were a couple of years ago. Let's shut this up because it's letter time. It's letter time, it's letter time.

Matt, where would you send letters if you were in Cuba and wanted to send a letter? That was an electronic mail. Hola, you would send it too. Superbestfriendcast at gmail.com. Superbestfriendamigos. No, no, no, no. Not that email. It's superbestfriendcast at gmail.com.

Yes. That would be the one. And then your email might sound something a little like this. A bit. I hope you timed that like this. No. I timed it like this. It might sound like Matt saying, I hope you timed that.

I hope you timed it like this. How many emails about poop do we have this week? Keep the people entertained. How many poop emails? We need to know. I need to know. Well, we're waiting. I just want to get it in there, but I did any of you sigh at Paul Marketing when the

trailer for Sleeping Dogs Definite Edition showed no gameplay and was the old life action announced trailer for Sleeping Dogs. Oh, was it? Let's just use the old marketing. Yeah. I think it says like, you know what? That's really good. But the game is out now.

Well, the standard edition is out. So I was watching. I'm like, show me all that awesome DLC that I purposely did not buy because I knew there would be some sort of game of the year edition. And I'm going to buy the shit out of that because I wanted to play that Enter the Dragon DLC. Right. Right.

We got the emails. Yes, we do. Okay. So Andrew wants to know. What's up? This is more of a challenge than a question. I'm going to use that sentiment. Can you name every iteration of Street Fighter 2?

Yeah. Any of us. But we can't name them by region because the Japanese titles are nonsense. Hey. Hey, yeah. Okay. How about we do it in a circle? All right.

And you do the next one. I'm going to drop the ball. All right. So let's see. World Warrior. Okay. I'll go next. Championship Edition.

Turbo. Are you serious? No. Championship Edition? Super. No. Turbo. No, no, no, no, no, no.

Champion Hyper. Thank you. Hyperfighting. Super Turbo. No, I'm talking about you. Okay. Stop. Stop with Turbo.

Okay. Hold on. Hold on. Wait. That is fucking Turbo. Turbo is getting misused here and being confused because it's Street Fighter 2 Turbo champion. Street Fighter 2. We already fucked up.

World Warrior. Then Champion. Then Hyperfighting. Then Hyperfighting. Then Super. Then Super Turbo. Yes. A home version was just simply called Turbo, but it was called Hyperfighting on the Genesis

or the Japanese or something. We're not talking about the homers. In terms of the... Oh, we were talking about the arcade versions. The iterations. The iterations. That's what that's about. That's how it goes.

And I fucked up. I wasn't aware of that. But, you know, and then you have... Champion let you play as the boss. All right. So, so, Super. Super Turbo. Then Super Turbo.

Right. Yeah. Then... Well, not even. No. Oh, yeah. Then you have Super Turbo Revival for the... Oh, fuck that piece of crap.

That wasn't what she... That was a real... That was one. That was one. I determined this to be non-canon. And then you have Super Turbo for matching service. Yeah. Rainbow Edition.

Oh, okay. And arcade cabinets. And then you have HD Remix. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. Okay. Well, that's not so hard.

Even though we fucked up constantly. Oh, my God. Matt threw me off so bad. I was gonna say... Then I was gonna say Alpha. Wasn't there even the Dash? Dash... Dash is the...

Dash was a... It was super, I think. Yeah. No, that Dash was... That's Turbo. Yeah, Dash is Turbo. That's so weird. That's Dash fast.

Speed. Yeah. Go quick. No, no one cares about the speed. Make it slow again. Yeah, make it slow again. Super. Fuck you, guys, who said that.

You were wrong. That's Areka. Areka? The guy that founded the... You're completely full of goddamn shit, Areka. Damn. The faster speed is better. Kazbot says, Zybotzu, do you have any moments where you just think to yourself as you're

playing it like, this is video games. Yeah. Yeah. This is the epitome of video games, right? Yeah, they're not often, but like... Cause he was saying, he says, I was playing through Wolfenstein the New Order, I was stomping a Nazi research base on the moon while dual-wielding automatic laser sniper rifles. That's video games.

That's video games. And you were just like, yeah, video games. Yeah. I remember there were a bunch of moments in Persona 4 where the music would kick in for a boss or something like that, and I would have that exact reaction. Yeah. Anytime there's a good mascot battle in Smash Bros. We're like, fucking, all your childhood heroes are on screen fighting each other.

Well, obviously, like Broforce is a fucking game. That's video games. Like the snow mechanics just playing it. What I had on my mind is really different from what you guys had. In Metrico, where I'm spinning the Vita around while platforming. You're level going. You interpreted it as ridiculous shit. Like, oh.

No, like only video games can do this. I'm spinning the machine around while platforming. That's really good. You got a point, Liam. You got a point. That sounds terrible. No, it works just fine. I don't want to spin my Vita.

It'll be fun. I don't. No, I'm not going to do it. It'll be fun, though. No, you can't make me have fun. Sound like it. I had fun once. It was terrible.

It was terrible once. Yeah. That's all it took. We got a really cool one in from Dean. And Dean, my favorite Final Fight character. Yeah, he says, hey guys, after your wonderful 101 video, I got the urge to ask you this question as well as draw you guys as wonderful ones. Hope you enjoy.

And he drew us all as wonderful ones. That's wonderful ones. And they're pretty cool. They all look pretty cool. Yeah, Matt is Wonder Gray. I'm Wonder Orange. Pat is Wonder Ginger. Wonder Ginger.

Oh, that makes sense. That makes sense. Wonder Puker. Green. And then Liam is Wonder Sun and Pink. Yeah, Sun and Pink. Okay, I like this. I like this that we're not the existing characters.

We're additions. Yeah, that's good. So I just completed 101 and I really enjoyed the game. At the beginning, I found it odd because I didn't have the abilities that I had in the demo. Played the demo before the game. It's super weird. It's really weird. Operation 001A.

And I was able to use Unite Gun as well as the Spring, which majorly tipped me up in the actual game against cannon enemies because I didn't get guts. He didn't buy it at the time. So this made me think, for the purpose of a demo, what would be the best level to set a player at to give a good sense of what the actual game is about without spoiling or giving too much away?

Two or three levels in. Yeah, let's say so. You chuck them into a level that has one really tough challenge. You want to chuck them into the level right after the tutorial is done. Yeah, but you also give them some more powers like the Ninja Gaiden Sigma demo. It was really fantastic. It was the first level, which is enough for Ninja Gaiden Sigma.

And you had all-reused key moves. I would say give them control at the moment that you have not all of your powers and definitely not all of your dash versions, but the spread is complete. So strider. The moment you get that aerial dash. Give them the stinger, but don't give them the breakdown. Yes, exactly.

That's what the Devil May Cry demo did. You could get vortex and air raid and stinger, but I don't think you could get round trip. But whatever. No, you get enough moves. This feeling, if you have fun, is representative of what the game is supposed to be. But definitely artificially jack up what the player can do in whatever level just to make it more fun.

But then you don't want to have it. Like you said, you go back and you're like, oh my god. No, of course. I want to say artificially jack it up. I don't mean drag the player's health up. I mean give them powers in a state where they could in a new game plus or something. Yeah. Paul asks a pretty cool question.

You're bad at marketing. Everybody has machine gun sounds. Much like a snowflake, everyone's is unique. What are your unique machine gun sounds? Pat, I don't have one. Do a machine gun noise. Pew, pew, pew. Awesome.

What do I got? I always said the go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go of the really heavy machine guns? Yeah. I'm thinking of an assault rifle. I had a lot of really powerful nerf guns as a kid. I never needed to make noises. They made plenty of their own. Wow.

My eye. That kind of noise? Yeah. Sometimes I shot them in the face. Exactly. Have fun. Dac-a-dac-a-dac-a. Yeah.

Come on. Dac-ac-ac-ac-ac-ac-ac. All right. I know. It's not like a goat dying. Yeah. One die shot with a machine gun. Yeah, it's true enough.

Emmett says, hey Zabatsu, I'm not at all into fighting games. So when you guys talk about the nitty-gritty moves and stuff, I kind of don't follow along. That makes sense. But something that I trouble getting my head around is when you talk about stages and games like Street Fighter, you talk about them like they're an essential, like they're essential to the game and you talk about which are your favorites, but they all seem like flat planes. Is this discussion purely about aesthetics or is it, or is there some mechanical use to

them that you don't see? Well, for a lot of games, yeah, it's aesthetics. Yeah. But the stage in particular, like in- 90% of what we're talking about. 3D fighters, obviously, their stages do matter. Because they matter. Yeah.

Part of the reason I really like Midnight Wilderness in Tekken 5 is not just because of the most visually appealing stage, but it's also a Tekken-style infinite border stage that has no walls. Yeah. Also in Street Fighter 2, the stages were where you culled a lot of the story and personality of a character from, aside from their sprite and their moves. So you look at their stage so you could identify them with a bit better. In Tekken, though, you didn't get that because the stages were not dedicated. Yeah.

In a couple of games, rarely, the stages will have different widths. 9, for example. That affects some of them. In Justice, yeah. In Justice, exactly. But no, 9 times out of 10, we're just talking aesthetics. If you're talking about anything between 90 and 95, or most, Christ, 98, even if you're talking about everything we've played on FNF, except for TMNT, we're talking about aesthetics,

right? Yeah. Pretty much, yeah. Besides, it's more fun to fight on a cool stage. Yeah. Yeah. But like you said, if you're talking about Smash Brothers or Soul Calibur, where there's a ring out or something.

Or Virtual Fighter. Virtual Fighter. They were talking about the shape. My Virtual Fighter has your ring out, your low wall, your high wall, your ring pool. What's your favorite stage in VF5? Because I love the one with the low glass walls. My favorite VF5 stage is to play in. Yeah.

That has a really good variety. There's three that are like it, and it's the ones that are quite small with the walls. Yeah. Like Impenetrable Unbreakable Walls. Unbreakable Walls. Always at snow level from VF4. Because Wolf does really well in those arenas. Always is forever the fucking wrestling cage for me.

Sure, it's awesome. I like Wolf's Mountain Top Wrestling Winter Cage. Yeah. That thing is awesome. Snow looks great. Oh. Snow looks super good. The mud looks super good too.

Everything looks good in Nike. Virtual Fighter, I love you. When's VF6? Kenny says, A while. Dears, I bought suit. My nephew unironically likes Sword Art Online too. Oh no, so do we now.

This was a bit out of date, I suppose. But here's the thing. I tried to tell him it's terrible, but he wouldn't budge telling me that's bullshit. I told him it's not fleet buy. He didn't believe me. I told him it's entertainingly bad, like he said it is, and then he snapped and it said that Gundam is retarded and all. And then he was speechless.

It's the age of the Navy and so on. Yeah, the nephew is the name you like, shut the fuck up. The nephew is 11, then no shit you can't tell the nephew it's dumb. Now, well, more importantly, and then he kind of goes on to talk about how he was just hating on giant robots and stuff, just because he got angry because you're saying, oh, the thing you like is dumb. Yeah, no, that's how children act. Sure.

But also, sometimes he was kind of asking, how can I cope with the shocking revelation that my nephew doesn't like Gundam? He don't talk to your nephew. But unironically likes Sword Art Online. He's never seen Sword Art the first season, then no shit he likes this one because it's not terrible. For someone that young. You got a point.

For someone that young. Because of this episode. Yeah. No, no, but if he's never seen the second, because the second half of the first season is where all the garbage is. And if he's young enough to not get what's wrong with the second half of the first season, you might not get that if you're too young. But like I was saying, you can cope with this by not speaking to your nephew.

Yeah. You're younger. This seems like an insurmountable thing. So what you have to do is you have to learn as a human being that everyone younger than you is stupid. Yeah. Also that people have opinions. And that people older than you by a certain amount are set in their ways and stupid also.

But before we run the age train. The only one that's not stupid is you. We don't, like he might not unless he's younger than him. You might be that they might be close in age. Yeah, he didn't say his age, right? Because people are allowed to have bad tastes. Yeah. Don't shit on your nephew.

So remember, several people were yelling at us saying we were wrong about Ninja Turtle in the movie. Yeah. So depends what the age difference is. If he's much younger than you and you're very close with your sibling, beat them. Just beat them up. Yeah. Just punch that kid in the face.

Yeah. If they're approximately your age, fight them. Because you can. Because you can. You're legally allowed. If they would beat you up, then like delete all of their stuff. Well, you got what was coming to you then. Yeah.

Yeah, exactly. Or just be an adult and live with it. Yeah. And be like, ah, I don't know about that last one. No. The easier way is to fight is to shut up and let them have it for like a year. And then like be like, hey, I found this new thing and try and then show them something better. Yeah.

Yeah. Keith said, oh, well, I guess not. Whoops. They're super best friends. They're a young and impressionable boy named little Jimmy. And I've been watching you guys for two years now and I would like to ask, why did Blanca pee in the girl's butt? Why did Blanca?

Why did Blanca pee in the girl's butt? Oh, this is probably from Fight for Nothing. From Fight for Nothing. Why did Blanca pee in the girl's butt? Because we wrote something that made us laugh is the kayfabe breaking answer. Yeah. Are you asking for more justification for Fight for Nothing dialogue? Yeah.

And the other reason, I guess, is because Blanca's into that shit. Yeah, sure. He thinks it's rad. I think that's telling that. Here's in the jungle, the dirtier the better, man. Okay. There's your answer. He rolls deep and he rolls nasty.

Fuck this podcast. EXP in her butt. Yeah. It's buttery. Select your super part. Fuck it. Hard knock. You know, the more I think about it, not all that shocking.

That shouldn't get picked up. Not that surprising at all. To their loss. Money on the table. Dewey defeats Truman once. How's your decimals? Oh, yeah. Getting real inside there.

Library jokes. Yeah. The system. The system, yeah. And when I elaborate, are you done? I'm done. I thought you were. I'm pretty sure you are.

You always know when I'm done. First of all, for Matt, Liam, and Willie, I want to know how it feels to do QA on a game that is received by players as one of the best games of the year, as opposed to a buggy pile of garbage. We had the opportunity of doing that. Well, personally, a couple times for me. A couple times. Yeah.

A couple times for me. I guess for me is that I spent well over a year doing Human Revolution Deus Ex. DXHR would be the big one. That was probably the biggest one I ever did. And there are some other ones. It's generally like really. You hate it at the time, no matter how good the game is. But you might, in the back of your head, go, oh, but this is going to be a great game.

It's just whatever. You have to remove yourself from that. But when it actually comes out, you feel like a great swell of pride. Of course. Like Deus Ex did and everyone was, because that company was going to die if Deus Ex did not perform. Yeah. So when it did pretty good and even well after the fact, and it's like, oh, shit, we really

got something here. Then you're like, oh, this is great. I feel so glad to have been a part of that. I'm glad I stuck it out. And as a counterpoint, how do you guys feel working on murder? We barely touched murder. Anyway, we barely touched it. You just wrote it.

And I disagree with you on the quality of it, but that's another discussion. You didn't have a hard lock, you're 360. For me, Darksiders 2 was definitely the one where I was like, I thank God people like this. Because it was at a time where everyone internally was like, can THK pull out? I don't like how buggy it is. No, but everyone was received well, and it was really satisfying to see that. On the flip side, I was glad to see Adidas my coach just scrape along the floor on his

22-year-old first throwing Adidas my coach under the bus. Yeah, well, it's there. They're a sponsor next week. Also, Deepak Chopra's Leela. Yeah. Yeah. But it was really, it was a bit disheartening to see Thief not do as well. Well, it certainly didn't.

But I like that people enjoyed Sleeping Dogs. Yeah, definitely. Sleeping Dogs is one of the best. I think I had a weird moment with you, Willie, where I was playing Sleeping Dogs. Like, why didn't you tell me this was so amazing? And he probably did. And I was mad at you. Because you never hyped me up for it.

Because you wouldn't listen anyway. I guess that's probably it. That's probably what happened. But no, like Matt said, you feel really proud. You feel about a lot of pride. And I think that like, it also makes a difference as well when you're in the fucking office and you know the guy that designed that level. You know the guy that programmed that thing.

And you're talking to these dudes and you all are working on the same project together. You're definitely feeling like, yeah, man, we pulled it off. We did it. You get kind of, I don't want to say caught up. But usually the road is really rocky to get there. It's never smooth. Extremely. But there's moments where you're like, oh, fuck this.

I'm off this. I hate this. Certainly. But there's definitely a bit of a bias where you're like, it'll be your baby a bit. So you'll forgive it more because you touched it. I still like Thief. A lot of people really don't want to play that one day. They'll try it.

I don't know. That one day it just cursed you the whole time. Sure. I remember being at a studio that over in Seattle one day when Justice League Heroes was coming out and it was on the release date. I don't know why, man. This is your go-to story. When I think about you and your testing career, Justice League Heroes always bubbles to the

top of some reason. It's the big banner above Woolie's head. I tested Justice League Heroes. No, it's just, I think you might have mentioned it like three times ever, but for some reason it always sticks out. It's because the developer was really nice and gave you all copies of some shit. Because they were really nice to people and I flew out to Seattle to work on it. So like while I was out there and the release happened and I got to see what it was like

for the first time where everyone is like the day of release, still working on it to get the patch or whatever and so on. But they're reading the IGN reviews as the embargo cover that far. They're reading every game spot. They're reading all these different things. And just the mood of the office going through the sways that they're like, oh, come on, that's not fair. They're like, yeah, these guys.

It's this huge thing. It was like that for days. Yeah, you get caught up in it. That was huge. You get caught up in it. Of course, yeah. You're like, oh, fuck these guys. That's part of what it's like being on the team.

One of my favorite ones was Warhammer 40K, Donovan Retribution 2. Donovan War 2 Retribution where I did a lot of live support for it where there's just patches and iterations like super quickly coming out and new content. It was really nice to just read feedback and just be like, come back the next day and be like, OK, we got to fix this. OK, this is that. Plugging holes. Yeah, exactly.

And I was really glad to get to work on Supreme Commander's Steam Re-Release because I love Supreme Commander. But then there's some things where you're like, I'm glad this is getting shredded. Yeah, exactly. I fucking told them so. I told them and they were fused to fix this. Also, I think that happens to you guys quite a bit because you have more stories about this than I do, but when dads are really nasty to you.

Oh, fucking Grenade Throw and Motherfucker. Oh, I remember that story so vividly. Dude, when the game fucking comes out and it gets fucking blanked, it gets destroyed, and people start finding bugs and then someone collects them all and brings them back to the studio and goes, here's all the shit that people are finding in her. It's like, our list is longer. What the actual fuck? Like, what happened, right?

And then it's like, please give me a point by point on what went wrong with these issues. And then for each one of them, you just go grab bug number 14, bug number 260 and just attach it and go, there you go. Found them all. Also, when you do focus testing, which is like when you actually just try to gauge how fun the game is for players that come in and play it in your testing office or whatever, I had to do that for Ten Shoe Shadow Assassins and another one or something. I did that for Army of Two.

Yeah, but I had to like be on it all week and compile it all and I gave a list of suggestions like this is what you should, and it's stuff that like I knew these are things that can be changed. But you want to vary the NPC faces because everyone said we are sick to death of killing these same guys over and over because it was always highlighted in a cutscene of breaking someone's neck and they never did it. And when I look at reviews and the game came out and they would complain about these things, it really sucks that you always killed the same looking Japanese dude over and over.

And then when Ubisoft kind of had a bad one like oh here's what the fuck and I'm like well we wrote it right there and then they just never reply to you because they know you're right. Like I see it happen a lot when like the Bethesda game comes out where people like slam the game and then Bethesda fans are like no it's QA's fault, never say it's QA's fault. Bethesda hires QA. Like never say it's anyone's fault because you don't know, nobody knows. Bethesda like is famous for like-

I know, I know it's terrible. And not giving them enough time to do that. Or actively pushing the games release up by like two months. And also making sure to make games that are just hard to test. Giant world games, tons of fucking changes. And Bethesda's like a lot of things you see is that when you run the mod manager on the game, like the actual game, it comes back saying there are a bunch of really unclean edits in the code.

Like it comes back, you do your mod manager shit and you know you're like checking for problems in the mod compatibility and it comes back all clean except for the base game. The base game has bad edits and sloppy code. And you're just like really? Like- I- What? Just remember, we jumped into letter time a little prematurely actually.

I was gonna say it's a little bit early. Because there was one more story. Oh! Wow! Pull it out, pull it out. Hold on. Well no, because I can transition off of what you were just talking about. With the way you treat your employees.

Haha! I sent you this! Yeah. We're getting yearly time? Yeah, we're getting yearly time. You're a gamer. Grilled Servat Yearly. A guy known to say stupid shit.

The CEO of Crytek about why Crytek is on fire. And we got a really good interview. And the basic gist of why is it on fire, it's like we discussed it with the employees and they knew it was gonna be on fire and it's up to them to put their own fires out. Well, the idea is just, hey, do you wanna have this job and see if it pans out or no? A very callous interview is just a problem. And like what the takeaway is in some ways was like, so you stopped paying your employees, the fuck's up with that.

And the response is more or less just kind of like- You know, you know, they knew it was like, you know, people were getting really emotional about these things and- People get emotional about being able to live. About being able to live. I'm like, I love that. It was almost universal. Like what he was saying, like I get that he was saying like, look, we're in trouble

and we can just shut it down now or we can try to write it out and pay you guys later and give them that sort of option. But the way he said that was like, people get emotional about being able to live. This is yearly style. He always says something that could be reasonable in the most inflammatory way possible. Yeah, of course. You know, it's like, you know, early should not be allowed to talk to people. Such a shit situation there.

Also they're paying their employees now that half of them quit. Yeah. Yeah. Because now there's enough money to pay half of them. Because they got a big love sum supporter that's anonymous. Please enjoy our Red Riding Hood character action game. Please enjoy Warface. Please enjoy like Mobile, which we're sticking with despite the fact that we never made money

on it. Well, we made this announcement like a while ago and everyone went, are you sure you want to do that? So if you're like me and kind of enjoy being outraged by dickheads, go read this Eurogamer interview. You know what? I just realized how badly they got screwed by letting Ubisoft just take the Far Cry IP and just not be the ones behind it.

Like that's Far Cry fucking, the fourth one would probably be better. I bet it wouldn't be big if Crytek still had their hands on it. I bet it'd be big like Crisis. Let's see what happens to Homefront. Homefront is now completely owned by Deep Silver now. Well, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Watch Homefront becomes.

Watch Homefront become massive. Oh, that'd be the killer. Oh, yeah. Like why? The title just for shits. And that's the other thing, that Microsoft wanted to just buy the Ryze IP and probably give it to a developer that can do it. And they said no.

And they said no. Because they're getting to the point because they're having flashbacks of fucking Far Cry. Like you can't let that go. Fair play to you there. That's exactly what that is. I kept wondering like the P4R article was amazing because it was like Crytek refuses to sell IP that no one wants and is useless. But that's totally what it is.

They got burned on Far Cry. Just in case it doesn't become useless. Never again. Well, guess what? It's worthless now. Hey man, Warface is going to turn it around. No, it's fucking not. The MOBA is going to turn it around.

Oh my God. The MOBA, I can't believe. No, you know what it is. I can't get in. You know what it is? I can't get in. Non-existent engine subscriptions from a company whose lead technical director just left.

That's what's going to turn them around. Yeah. Yeah. That's what they're actually doing full time now. What a huge kick in the balls to CryEngine, to have a bunch of your tech people lead. Yeah. Well, of course. Beck Letters, Reid says, there's actually a bunch of people.

There's quite a few of these and I picked this one, but it's representative of a number. I truly did to Reid. Many others have. Ever since I subscribed to your channel, I started listening to the podcast. You peak managers about the Metal Gear franchise and since we started putting up those LPs, a lot of Metal Gear talk. I got to because of the ground zero. The ground zero and everyone's going, all right, all right, what is this year of Metal?

Come Snake Solid. I've dodged it for 20 years. Right. Now's the time to start doing it. Everyone wants to know, where do I start? How do I get into Metal Gear? It's very simple. It's the easiest thing ever.

Do we all agree on this? It's not. There's no other way. For us, it is. But for the layman. Guess what? You play the first one as in Metal Gear Solid. For the PlayStation 1 on whatever platform you prefer, but the PlayStation 1 version.

And then you just go forward. Then you play the PlayStation 2 version of Metal Gear Solid 2. I don't know. You don't necessarily have to do it in that order. If you actually want it. And GS1, and GS2, and GS3, and GS4. No. If you want to, no.

You could just play three. No. Because then your mechanics are all weird. But if a person wants to experience them in the chronological order, that would be awful. No. Awful. Awful. Three-piece Walker V.

The chronological order? Yeah. Because no. I mean, that's a bad idea for the gameplay standpoint. But I've had people say that should I play it gameplay-wise or should I play it chronologically? No. You should always play it in order of release. You should always play everything in order of release.

The chronological argument makes sense when it's a long-running thing and there are like six things. But the instant the new one comes out that's a prequel, you fucked yourself and it makes no sense. And more, I would argue that over half of what makes the third one great is knowing that this is the thing that this is gonna happen. I don't subscribe to that. I would say play it in order of release, too.

But I just remember seeing people- MGS1, MGS2, MGS3, MGS4, Peace Walker, Ground Zeroes, Ground Zeroes is great. Yeah. Because the references- With the HD collection on PS3, it's really easy to get up to date on that. And the thing is, too, is that despite the time frame happening way in the past, there's updated versions of jokes that were running already in the previous game's threads. Like that cutscene with Granin in 3 makes no sense if you didn't play 1 and 2.

And what about Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2? If you're really feeling it, go grab the MSX versions and play those. Or if you're a big dick G, jump on those. Probably just watching them on YouTube. If you're an even bigger dick G, go play Acid, right? I was gonna say that in a second, but what Pat just said is MGS1's 10 bucks. That being said, if you're really interested, I recommend getting a boxed copy of MGS1. Why?

Because you will not regret it. Yeah. The full experience. Yeah. The full experience. Get a boxed copy of MGS1. That being said, the jump in the game from that is very unlikely to be worth the increased costs.

Plus 30 bucks. It's not that bad. 30 dollars for a $10 game. It's extreme for a minor. For a game you can buy for $10, but it's a fucking progression blocker. No, it's not. Whatever you say. Anyway.

Wait. You're not thinking about the right thing. I know. The digital version. Either way, you have to go into it. Yeah. No, there's a way. There's a way.

You have to go into it. But yeah, definitely if you enjoy it and if you finish the mainline ones, do dip your toes into the spinoffs like Ghost Babel and Acid because they're fantastic. Absolutely fantastic games. But generally speaking, for all intents and purposes, you want to just go in order. And if you're a fan of the series who hasn't played Ground Zeroes because you think it's a demo, go play Ground Zeroes. Or watch our four, five videos encompassing the entire game.

Well, most of it. Most of it. Some of it. Because we're missing all those other missions. I know. Because I'm still a little depressed to see people going, oh, I can't, I like, on the comments of the, oh my God, I can't believe they charged $30 for this. Like, we're, we're doing five videos and we could have done more.

Like, it's, the game has fucking value a lot more than some. Now, you may disagree with that exact value, but it's not without value because the thing to keep in mind too is because MGS generally allows you to approach things in so many different ways, like some people just run to the next cutscene and that's how they play these games. So they would never see value. Well, yeah, and if you don't go back to the tapes, you miss 80% of the story in Ground Zeroes.

Et cetera, and so on. Yeah. So, you know, like, and I would say that's probably a large percentage of the players are actually people that just go from cutting to cutscene, probably not exploring the gameplay time. Could only have lowered the price by $10, yes, of course, it could have. They did. Well.

Especially if it'd be 40. I mean, no, I know. It's still 20 on last gen consoles. It was on sale a little while ago, you know. But it was meant to raise funds for Phantom Pain while it meant to raise funds for Konami, I would say, right? Yeah. Yeah.

They can afford to pay for Phantom Pain. I was going to say they can afford to get that sequel to a nano-breaker on. Can't wait. It's not blood. But like you were saying that like because of how long it's going to take for Phantom Pain. I always think you'll get tired of talking about that. No.

They need to start seeing it around earlier or something along those lines. It's bright red robot juice made out of nano-machines. Either way. It's not blood. It's blood in the pocket. One more of the other. Your game. Fucking nano-breaker.

Daniel says, sup dudes? Sup. Sup dude? Sup. Jumpei. Fuck Jumpei. Yeah. Recently I had to-

You were like Stupay, am I right? No. No. The only reason I hate that line is because Yukari says it. Yeah. What about Moranji? Which is clearly supposed to be Bakanji, I assume, you know? Yeah.

Like I just guessed. Yeah, that's probably right. So recently I had some family over and a bunch of kids with ages ranging from 8 to 12 were pretty much crowded in his basement or whatever. Yeah. And I look over at them and all I see is a bunch of them on their phones and tablets playing mobile games. That's the sad future we live in.

Until one of them got close to the TV and saw my game stack with a box of UMVC3 and yelled out, this game has the Hulk in it! Me and him started playing some matches and slowly one by one the kids got close to the TV and wanted to play Marvel. As the night went on, my small stack of Marvel licensed games like Ultimate Alliance and so on got them into gaming on something other than a phone. So my question is, other than Marvel, what are some good brands that extend into video games that would be a good gateway for that age group?

Which, yeah, right now, it's just mobile. Mario. I guess Mario. But for real is Mario on Zelda. I think certain kids will be in love with Zelda. The Batman. I'm going to say the Batman. The Batman games will reveal the kids.

Basically, to look at this kid reacting to the Hulk that way, because he saw the Ultimates and goes, I love the Hulk, grab any movie that has a decent tie-in with a game force. Yeah, and this just goes to show the reason mobile's kicking it with the kids is because kids just have the fucking phone in their hands. Exactly. They have the phone in their hands. They just have it. They're a credit card.

And the parent is like, why the fuck would I buy them a Nintendo when they got them hand me down an iPhone? That thing shuts them up. Why do I need to shut them up more? Games are 95% selling distractions and not selling games. Yes, totally. Totally. Kids, while they're being stupid, stupid, stupid, horrible creatures are not stupid

enough that when you give them something better, they don't usually notice. Yeah. But you have to make that step. Yeah, you have to be like, hey, this is better. I think a lot of beat-em-ups can do it for young kids. For young kids? Yeah. You know, if you like punching shit.

It's true. The gameplay-wise, I think it's just like the repetition with beat-em-ups. I love beat-em-ups. You know what kids love? Yeah. Kids today are a lot less. You know what kids love? Not if they haven't played any other games yet.

But where's detective mode? It doesn't matter if they haven't played a game with detective mode. If they haven't ever seen one. Like, if it's a five-year-old, pop them in front of a Super Nintendo or a Genesis, you know, this may be bad advice. So, don't take it if it's bad. I don't know. But you know what kids of all ages have always loved?

Graphic violence. So, I remember being a child and going over to my older friend's house and he had Doom and that blew my fucking mind. It's amazing. Okay? And that got me into playing games on PC. Because that's where the fucking raw shit was. And that's part of the reason why I picked up RE2 when I was 11.

Because I looked at the back of the box and there's zombies and blood and shit. Oh shit. So, a lot of mobile games probably don't have that level of graphic hardcore violence. No, but these kids have also seen the GTA's. Maybe. Maybe. Not mobile kids. So yeah, just show them GTA and show them all the most horrible parts of GTA.

Now, you might be saying, Pat, that's not appropriate. You're putting selling a game system over my child's brain. Yep, that's right. It'll figure itself out. I watched Commando when I was nine. I turned out fine. I'd rather they can't be watching horrible violence than playing honest violence. I guess any version of Minecraft other than the phone one.

Like, yeah. Phone one's like... Look, you can control it. Yeah. Mount your friends. You can play Mount your friends. That's a game. That's not on mobile.

And leave it grossed and out without love it. That's a good time. They'll probably gross them out and they'll love it. Kids love gross stuff. They're like worms throwing up. Yeah, they love vomiting. That's so good. Do you remember that when you said throw up party?

Well, I remember when they would release toys. Where would you have this party? At Liam's house. No, the answer was at the Vomitorium. Well, I remember when there were toys that were all about throwing gross stuff on cis. Bad balls. Bad balls and strong drugs. Little bug creepy crawlers and then like vomit like fucking kids.

Garbage pail kids. Yeah. Hey, hon, we're home early. What the fucking talk back shit. Oh, talk backs are great. Get your kid a yak back. Yak back! They won't need anything else.

You can never find the people. Hi, I'm Kevin McCallister. I want a large pizza. And one of those little fridges with the key. A cyborg senator sends us an email. I like that cyborg senator. Who credit cards? Cyborg senator says, now that your website is up, how do you all intend to efficiently

operationalize your strategies to allow yourselves to leverage more core competencies in a way that enables setting up brand trajectory that will continuously increase your market share in the capricious environment of the internet economy? See, this guy's fake email broke down at core competencies. If I could offer some advice, I'd recommend building your administrative infrastructure to be both robust and scalable so that you might effectively diversify your consumer base and proactively monitor your indicators of the next paradigm shift on an as needed basis. Okay, so here's what I do.

My computer is connected to the internet. What I do is I pop open the DVD tray and then I put my dick in it. And you slam it shut five or six times. That's the solution to that. And then your computer says, please insert a larger disk. It's not flat enough. There you go, cyborg senator. Continuing on.

I think I answered that with the reverence it deserved. Luke, thank you, Luke, by the way, for formatting this question in an excellent manner. It's really pretty excellent. Which is going to make it easy for you, Willie. And just nice, big, bold, one-line question. And then the rest of the comments and email and so on afterwards. But just emphasize that question. A lot of formatting gets you places.

Yep. Which TV show slash movie slash video game do you wish you had watched or played when it was originally aired? Oh, man. Where did you hope that you were on the original bandwagon and not late to the party? Oh, okay. Like any everything I've... For me, very easily, P3 and P4. Yeah.

Well, you wouldn't listen. Well, no. There was no time. There was no time. I guess for me it would have been... We've been telling you that a long time. There was no time. For me, it'd be thirst strike.

I guess for me it was Metal Gear Solid. 98, I was 6 years old. I would say Metal Gear Solid as well because I first watched the ending of Sons of Liberty at my friend's house. And I never touched Solid at that time. I had that happen. So I had to go backwards and work my way. And at that time, when the internet was at its infancy, not easy. Yeah.

That happened with 3 and then when 4 was coming out, I played all 4 straight in a row. I bought a PS2, 4, 3. I believe it. I always liked fighting games, but I never really got, like, way to find the fuck in until I met you, Matt and Woolly in college. And then I was like, what the fuck have I been doing with my life? I've been wasting it, but I can waste it better now. Yeah, efficiency. You know what I wish we had done?

I wish we had done the video game championship wrestling series before that. Yeah. Because that would be awesome now. And now we just have to rip it off. You know? In terms of... In terms of blowing up way bigger than the original. Maybe.

In terms of stuff like shows and stuff. I can't think of anything that I was like, I'm really upset that... I wish I watched Twin Peaks when it was originally on. I was a little kid years old. All I can think of is how glad I am to have watched Evangelion right as it came out. And I was the same age as all the characters in that story. So I'm pretty sure it fucked me up. I haven't answered...

I haven't answered... I haven't answered the opposite effect where I'm glad I didn't watch Lost and didn't keep up with that as it was going on. We were high fobbing the shit out of each other when the Lost finale happened. Because we were waiting until it was over to hear if it was good or not. And then everyone was super mad. And we were like, yeah. Nobody understood. Super psyched about it.

The job lost. That'll say lost. Kinryu wants to know... He saw Matt and Liam in line at the AVGN movie screening. Yeah. That's when he didn't say hello. He was about to say hello, but he saw that Liam had a really confused look on his face to the point of almost being terrified. I was walking up and down the street looking for Matt for like half an hour.

And I was like, where is Matt? And he had seen Matt and he saw Liam. He could have helped out by saying he's there. He wasn't there. That was the issue. Oh. And you'd be like, thanks, family. Yeah.

Actually, I was not scared for a second. It was dark at night. Yeah, why didn't you say hello? It was dark. Yeah. Come on. Oh, it would have been nice to say hi. Be a nice guy.

That was the question. Why were you even confused? Yeah, just like... Yeah, you don't often get one... He said he looked confused for the point of being terrified. I was confused. Not scared, but confused. Because my phone had died and me and Matt were just trying to coordinate.

Yeah, your phone dies like a motherfucker, man. It's terrible. I use it all the time. Don't use it so much. But I have the same phone as you and mine lasts three times. You don't use it to check Facebook, clearly. Or flicking the battery in your face. Flicking the vibration option on and on.

It doesn't do much. It does tons. It's got a count in there. Not all that much. June. I don't do it 100 times a day. Yeah, you do. I don't.

Aaron asks, why no racing games? Hard to commentate over racing games, isn't it? I would love to. There's lots of racing games. We did Uniracers and that was because they're short. The crazy non-simulator ones, like the ones with boost power, as I like to say. Absolutely. Like the last one that came out, like that was Wipo.

Sure. And that was before this show. I'm sure we could do something in the future if we think of a good idea. It's not impossible. I'm sure we could do F-Zero DX. But I definitely think a part of it, though, is, too, that we collectively don't have a ton of interest in racing simulators. I think moment to moment, like fighting games and racing games have, like, similar things

going on. But in a fighting game, there's a lot more variation for a viewer to play. I really liked Need for Speed Most Wanted, given that it was just a burnout paradise, too. But I don't think anybody would have wanted to touch that one. Yeah, no. It's like, you're going to watch me restart the race 12 times in a row? I've been thinking lately, because I have a copy of it.

I know it sounds weird, but Ridge Racer unbounded that Arcadia. Yeah, the Arcadia. So when Blur and Split Second came out, I tried both. And Split Second kicks out. I didn't like either that much. They were good. But I was just like, there's something off about them. And I love Arcade Racers.

And everyone kind of shat on, like, you know, deservedly, this is a Ridge Racer game. It's called Ridge Racer, but it's not a Ridge Racer game. The unbounded, because it's an Arcadia go-through shit and whatever. I started playing that. I was like, wait, this one feels right, like, for me. I like this one. And recently, like, this week, I've been like, I should pop that back in and try that, because I was having fun with that.

Same good things about the one where you are jumping from body to body. Oh, is it, what was that? The Wheel Man? Or the one where you're, it was Driver. It's a Driver game. It's a Driver game where you are possessing other people. You're dead and you possess other cars. What?

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Parallel lines? Yeah, you're a coma. And it's all in your hand. James Small is going to get on my case. That game sounds sick. Yeah, Parallel, it's really good.

Is it like, just put it in my head? Of course. Racing games to fighting games is an algae, but racing games are a lot closer to sports games. Yeah. And in my opinion, the past six, seven years of racing games have been garbage compared to the years that came before. Oh, yeah, I agree with that.

Like, they've been fucking terrible. Like the rise of need for speed boring racing as the core racing formula. And like, I like Forza just fine, I like GT just fine, but like that's, well, not for me. Well, I would say something. GT, there's scores up. There's need for speed. Those are the three things that ever get released.

I bet you there's no more crazy racing than not as much. Exactly. And I bet you that people that love racing games, even they probably wouldn't love watching racing games. That's really good. They'd like to. Yeah. They'd like to play.

We got some breaking news about eating early access subscription. Okay. You know how Madden gets a demo every year? Yeah. You know how early EA subscription of $30 a year gets you five days early on all EA games? Yeah. Madden's not getting a demo this year.

Yeah. Actually, I saw that. I just didn't put it on the dock. It was interesting. Stop the presses. It's not breaking. You're breaking. Fuck her.

Stop the presses. You're getting busy. I'm getting busy. Yeah. I saw it before we started. Fuck you guys. Anton asked a really good question. That's what's racing games.

That's what's up. Anton asks a really good question. Road rash. Come back. Choose any game pad of any console and remove one element and add one element to it. Any game pad? Sorry to say that again. Controllers.

Yeah. Add one detail, remove one detail. Xbox S controller. Remove the black and white buttons. Put on L1 and R1 buttons. Dreamcast controller. Get rid of it. Add a detail too.

Make it any other controller. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Sega Saturn controller. Remove the D-pad and replace it with a Nintendo cross. Okay. Oh my god.

Like I'm getting hard at the thought of that controller. PS4 controller. Remove the share button. Add the select button. Fuck that share shit. That's fine. Alternatively, remove the touch pad. Add AA batteries.

N64 controller. I like rechargeable. Take away the stick. I like rechargeable AA batteries. And replace it with the stick that you got on Gamecube. Yeah, if only. That fucking Hori N64 controller is the godliest thing ever. You know it.

The N64 controllers, everyone that has one knows the feeling of picking it up and seeing the stick go flaccid because it fucking wobbles because they didn't have that spring tech down yet. Yeah. Coleco vision controller. Don't make it a numpad. I wasn't fond of that. That's a good one.

Fuck that. I wasn't fond of that. That's not bad. But on the other hand, it lets you do so much. That D&D game was the best. Fuck. Like what do you do there? You need all those buttons.

You can't play links, whatever links without the numpad with the trackball. Golden link or whatever. Or whatever. Gold and T. Gold and T, yeah. No, Coleco vision had a dial. No, I know, I know. I know it had that, yeah.

But you gotta, some games need numpads. Marble madness. Get rid of that. Oh, I got another one for the PS4. Fucking remove that stupid goddamn light. Oh, what would you add? Nothing. I don't care.

Add a sticker. Add a fucking select button. There, I did fucking. Yeah, sure. Fuck that light. On the Xbox One, I'd get rid of the bumpers. Oh god, they're horrible. And replace them with better bumpers.

I don't like them very much. Sure, I think they're fine. But can you grab an Xbox One controller? I want to hold it. I hear you, Liam. I hear you, Liam. But I would get rid of the triggers first. Oh yeah?

Yeah. If it were me, I'd have every controller have GameCube. No, I'd make every controller a GameCube controller. Get rid of the Xbox One's general shape and make it like a 360 controller. Because I don't like it nearly. Take the PS2 controller. It feels really fat. And add a bunch of sharp samurai jagged edges to it, like mad cats do.

Yeah, you did. Yeah, we could go on for ages. Take all the PS controllers that ever existed, throw them out, and just give me the boomerang. Yeah. Oh yeah. You're a madman. A madman. It could be the greatest controller ever.

We don't know. We weren't allowed to know. We weren't allowed to make that decision. These damn special interest cubes keep stopping my research. What is going on? The watch. The watch. That's on the watch.

The watch on the watch. Fucking hohokum is coming out. That's the magic worm adventure simulator game. God, that's so fucking weird. You remember? Yeah, I keep forgetting, but you're right. It's out tomorrow. I'm really excited for that.

Magic worm adventure simulator. Okay. It's really good. All right. I'm not making things up. It really sounds like you're making them up. I'm not making things up. What I'm going to say sounds like I'm going to make it up is that something good came

out of the Michael Bay Ninja Turtles movie. What? That there's going to be a sequel? Yeah, there's going to be a sequel. No, it's because I just randomly decide I'll just buy the 3DS game based on the movie, which was not advertised at all, and it's a cool little dungeon crawler torch like game. It's actually good. I played it for two hours, and when we're done, I'm going to play some more.

It's based on the movie, not the show? It's based on the movie, but it's after the movie. Yeah, okay, yeah. So they're already all pals or whatever, and they all have their proper moves, and it's fun. It's making Fox in it. Her likeness is in it, but her voice is not. Cam Clark returns as Leonardo.

Yeah. Okay. That makes it better. It's pretty good. If anyone sees it for cheap, maybe you should pick it up. I think I might grab it after that. If you like turtles and torch lights, they even go together. Well, there was another recommendation that you recommended me, and I rolled my eyes,

but I recently bought the game, and I'm like, Matt was right. What? The Amazing Spider-Man. What do you mean? You recommended it to me one time. For what version? The new one. The one that came last year?

I've been playing it. I'm like, fuck that. Amazing Spider-Man 1. Yeah. The game. Oh, okay. Because I want to play one first. Okay.

Sure. What did you buy for? The PS3? Yeah. Oh, I didn't even know it came out in this year. The good port, too. Okay. Cool.

Cool. I'm really surprised. Are you looking at me now? Yeah. What are you looking at me to watch? In life. I unlocked the bow and last of us, so I'm going to be playing a lot of that multiplayer. Yeah.

Okay. I'm going to be watching it. Are you going to buy that DLC that's not included? I had the season pass. It's all included for me. Oh, okay. I'm going to watch a shit ton of EPO. There you go.

Yeah. I'm probably going to be, well, I blew through like a fifth of it in a single day. Yeah. Sure enough. Sure enough. Yeah. I'm going to keep up Sordart. Sordart.

Yeah. Yeah. And I'm probably going to take a day and catch up to Woolly and Persona so that we can have that spoiler cast. Well, that day better be like 90 hours long. Woolly, what's your playtime counter at? It's 99 right now. Okay.

Because you finished Persona 3 with like, what was it again? 170. 170. Which is like. Like an NPC on every day. Right now? Sure. Sure.

Does that make sense? I've never seen someone with a playtime counter that high. Both of them said that still doesn't add up. Yeah. We still don't get it. Well, what about you Woolly? We left it on a few months. You're obviously finished before.

Mine's going to, well, of course, and I'm going to go, I guess cherry pick parts of the show to just see what they were like. I'll tell you where. I want to know what these moments look like. You want to know about Swag King. Yeah. Okay. That's the best part of the show.

Best part of the show. Best part of the franchise. Best. Oh, pushing it. It's up there. Yeah. I'll tell all of you. I'm also going to, and once fucking done, I'm going to put, I guess, the high M Daisy,

him Daisy. Oh, God! The videos. Oh, do me a favor and not watch that until next Monday so I can be there. Because everyone, everyone won't stop and I'm like, I know. Do me a favor and let me relive that moment fly carelessly through you. Seriously. I mean, I did watch the one for three and I laughed.

Yeah. It was good. So, yes, I'm going to be doing that and I guess my other thing would transition into what's coming up on the channel, which is Gamescom. Gamescom. I'm going to be checking that out. Gamescom's probably right now. I think we're all going to be getting that out.

It kind of may be sort of it. Microsoft is tomorrow at 8 AM. In Europe? No, here. Wait, you changed your mind. No, I looked up the actual time. You told me it was 6 PM. And I made a mistake.

So, yeah, you did change. You liar. What? When I look at the time, I can't just convert it in my head. Or else I fuck up. So, wait, what are the times for this shit? 8 AM. At a time?

Eastern? Eastern and 1 PM. Eastern. What we're getting at, guys, is we're going to watch the Gamescom conferences. Boy, I'm going to be sleepy. Good. I'm going to put them up and maybe you guys can enjoy them. Alongside with us.

I don't know about this. I know about this. That time is not good for me. It'll be great. Unlike you guys, I live with someone. It'll be great. My wife actually. No, your fiance.

Are you really bad at this? Yeah, no. You propose? It's kind of a new thing. I might not get it right away. Got to get the hang of it. Got to get into the swing of things. We'll figure it out.

It'll be fun. Yeah. I was going to say there's something that we're all looking forward to and that we didn't plug on the ground. We're all looking forward to Gamescom. We didn't, well, yeah. We didn't all talk about it yet, but please go and Kickstarter, put in Samurai Cop 2, check out what that is, and it is one of, I think collectively, one of our favorite

dumbest movies ever. Well, Samurai Cop 1, that is. Samurai Cop 1, and this is a sequel to it, and if you want to throw some money at it, you can, but you should. Yeah. I'm just saying. Matt, you had something else to announce? Yeah, I think we'll also take the opportunity to finally announce that if you are going

to PAX Prime, which means anyone that has tickets because they've been sold out for like a month. They sold the fuck out. Then you're a nerd. Yeah. But also you could say hi, I guess. Say hi, because we are also going to PAX Prime. Thank you, Mishinima, for sending all four of us.

Appreciate it. And we'd love to find out if we're going to go before it was sold out, but we only found out when I was in Cuba, I got an email saying that, like you guys are all confirmed to go. Sick. Are we going to have things? We are going to have three autograph sessions during three of the day, so an hour each day. So we will be at the Mishinima booth the entire time, and we might even have maybe some shirts or something for you guys to buy.

That would be cool. That would be cool. If you would like some of it or a new merch, we'll probably have a fair amount of them to sell. I can spit on it if you want. Spit on it if you want. We're also... That new shirt looks so fucking cool.

I know. God. That'll probably be the earliest we can get them. Yeah. For all of our local friends, we're also going to be at the Montreal Comic-Con in September. It's still tickets available for that. You can still buy those. We will have a panel there.

Wait, what? Really? Shit, I got to get tickets. I was able to set up a panel with the guy who works at the comic book store. Not too many blocks away. So we're going to have a panel there. It's September, I believe, 17th, but... It's the 12th to the 14th.

It's 12th to the 14th. Is that Batsu on the road? Well, not really for the Montreal one. That's literally down the street. That's literally down the street. Since I'm on the street... I don't know about you guys, but Liam and I will be walking around Otakatom. We're going to Otakatom.

We're not doing anything. No, we're just walking around. No, we're going to walk around. I go there every year. Yeah, I walk around. Wait, are you going? I'll go. Sure.

Oh, okay. Let's go separately, though. I don't want to hang out with you guys. No, that's what we're establishing. Yeah. So if you see us, don't ask where the other is. Don't ask where the other is because we don't want to know. Because the answer will be like, I hope they're dead.

They're dead by the weekend. They're going to kill my vibe. Very excited about Pax Prime, though, because Pax Prime is better than E3. Well, I think that is what everyone is saying. I've never been to Seattle, and that's where apparently the best cheese pizza is. Did you know that you can look at Kurt Cobain's sweater? Really? I want to see that.

Let's do that. Let's do that. Hey, man, I read Beck Mongolian Chop Squad. There's a ton of shit you can do about fucking Kurt Cobain over there. He'll chill on the bench and fucking... Yeah, but, but, Woolly, we killed him. So... We did.

We killed Kurt Cobain. Kurt Cobain was awesome. So Seattle might not be friendly to us. No, I'm sure they'll be. A little bit of an insight to over there. It's going to suck having to go from the beast coast to the west coast. Whatever. Whatever.

Little known fact that after Kurt Cobain died, he found his way to Drangleic. And got Ivy's sword. It was pretty sick. Nice. Hold on, you guys. You'll see soon. All right, we got nothing. Okay.

Okay, fuck it, let's go. Let's go do it. Hey, happy birthday to the podcast! Yeah! Happy birthday! 20 years old now. We don't have the little... Whatever, spike that audio.

All those Erie and Resurrection Smegma Man episodes. Oh, no. I will never let you forget about Smegma Man.