Castle Super Beast - SBFC 054: This one is the Personacast

Episode Date: August 19, 2014

Other stuff happened too though. Little bit of P.T. talk, little bit of Tetropolis, and a bunch of stuff that happened at Gamescom, but wasn't on the main stage. Personacast is the last hour or so.

Shit-eating babies. Shit-eating babies. Is that the new lore? That's the new lore, according to Eriki. Well, it's not really new, is it? Yeah, it's from like 1990. 1990? Yeah.

Yeah. It still holds up, though. At least it doesn't do like the fucking porcupine, not porcupine, hedgehog, and like, foam it up. Yeah. So, someone corrected us on that and said, no, the porcupines and hedgehogs, hedgehogs do that with any new smell. It's not poop exclusively.

But they will do it. But they will do it with poop. And what we're worrying about is when a hedgehog will find a new thing and then mash it up in its mouth for foam and then roll around in it, and that includes poop. Those aren't chili dogs. Close, though. But they taste very similar. So, we're off dick jokes.

Nope. On the shit jokes. Just right onto the fecal matter. Yeah. So, also, we combined both. Fly-ridden, fitting. We combined it both by doing, in the indie games, five episodes. It was like, my dick is so small.

My dick is so small it's pushing the shit out of my own ass. Yep. That's the quote. That's the what? That's the quote. And then, I think, in that video, then Pat says three seconds later, man, this is the most vile thing we've ever said. And I'm like, yeah, we're probably going to keep it.

Give it a week. Give it a week. Give it a week. That being said, a couple people wanted to know if we were going to do, like, a JoJo spoiler cast type thing. And the end of 26? Sure. Well, I was going to say, like, well, at the end of part three, if anything.

Well, there's going to be a break. Yeah. I would think the end of part three. Yeah, because how am I supposed to talk about Steely Dan and then not talk about D.O. later? And there's that, but there's also the fact that, like, it's not you. Iggy still doesn't exist, also. So, like, we're not even anywhere near.

The fucking thing is 25 years old. Exactly. So, like, it's not like you're going to be like, oh, man, it's not that. It's like, hey, did you see how they adapted this into that? Yeah. It's going to be just a retrospective on how they did it. You know what I mean? People I don't want to know spoilers because there's still so many people that don't know what this thing is.

Yeah. The games you guys have played of Berserk have spoilers that are 15 years old. Yeah. Yeah. Of a manga series that's existed for 30. Like, has it continued to exist for another 30. The manga has been being localized and the entire anime has been localized for almost 10 years now. Well, like, I didn't know that Casca was Casca until I saw Casca.

Yeah. You know what I mean? No. Like, I didn't grasp the situation. Yeah. Spoilers are things that are decades old. Yeah. I get what you're saying.

That being said, we can do a spoiler cast for Persona this week. Which we would do. I was kind of optioning, like, we'd wait for you to be done with Golden. No, I'm done, man. But you're good to go. I'm good. Like, if you had finished Vanilla, you would not say, yes, I got to go play through Golden now. All the importance.

I got to do another 100 hours with the first 70 years stuff I already know. I know what you mean. That being said, I did play the answer right after. Yeah, that was worth it. So, I'll take it right into, like, how the weeks are going because my... How's your week, man? How is it? I decided to watch...

Tell us. I don't care. Well, fuck. Liam, how's your week? It was good. Despite you helming the podcast, I hijacked it. Okay, fine. I've got one item.

I watched the first episode of the P4, the animation, not Golden, the original. Yeah. And I know you were saying to just watch the highlights, but I think I'm just going to go for it. And you're just going to watch it. Sure, it's not the first one. How about the weird, jarring... I'm not going to say too much because for the spoiler cast, but when you watch that and

the Persona 4, the animation, that first episode has a bunch of shit that's really jarring to see after you've beaten the game. Yeah. I think I know what you're talking about. And you're just like, oh, no. All right. But these guys know. But I'm really enjoying it immensely, mainly because the dub actors are the best.

Yeah. And they're doing a great job. They're pretty good. Because it's all of anime voice actors. But it's like a good one. Yeah, that's what I mean. And it's the same actors by and large. Yeah.

So, you know, we'll get into it later. But that's the reason why I want to watch... That's why I didn't opt to go see Bayonetta's subtitle because I want to watch Bayonetta that are in the game. For that animation, it's nothing special. It's not nothing to write home about. But they do a lot of really good stuff with the use of the music from the game proper. Of course.

And all of your scene transitions being the day-to-day scroll. Japanese voice to Bayonetta would creep me the fuck out. I'd find that really... It doesn't sound right. You know what I mean? I could hear it in my head right now. Like, ah-ah-ah. You know, whatever, mommy style.

For fighting games specifically, they choose the English voice acting. And they choose the English rap music. Absolutely. Because they know what it should sound like. It doesn't. Because Kamiya is hip-hop. Absolutely. Yeah.

He didn't even make Max Anarchy. Don't even... Don't tell me that Kamiya is not hip-hop. Now he's hip-hop. He'll block you if you do. Is he? I don't know. He's one of the founding elements.

The hidden rapping, breaking, scratching, rapping, and fucking Hideki Kamiya. Who do you buy and win decks? Who do you thought taught Wu Tang about all cool kung fu shit? Yeah, Kamiya. It was Kamiya. Of course. Who else could possibly? Just go back in the day to like black and white pictures of FuntMaster Flash and just

photo-shot Kamiya in the background with the club. With his mom behind her. Yeah, she was there too. And his mom's like, oh, I'll never amount to nothing. And she was right. That's insane. Your kids can't even sell a million. What a pathetic son.

Oh, poor guy. Kamiya, I see all you do all day is spend all your time on Twitter. Will you ever amount to anything? Oh, I gotta re-blog, retweet, re-hash stuff. And block someone. I saw him threaten to block someone. And you're like, oh no, my Twitter feed won't be ruined by your endless Twitter. But you can't take them off it.

Someone asked him, hey, I hear your games are fun. Are they blocked? No! He is, man. Oh, I love it. It's great. How's it going? What's going on, Liam?

That was your whole week? That was your whole week? You watched Persona for the annual? I watched one episode. I know. It's like everything else. It's like the reverse of a Pat Week where he watches like 500 episodes of The Mask. We'll get to that.

We'll get to that. Everything else was editing and video. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course. I like the idea that you watched the animation and just went to cryostasis for the next six days. My dreads wrapped around me. That's a weird dance. It's a little weird.

I think it's cool. All right, let's move on to Liam's week. I played that weird space worm simulator, Ho-Ho-Kam. Okay. And this was the stopper to my beating a game a week because this game does not have any sort of linear progression. Oh, no. And you're like, am I beating it?

Am I winning yet? I don't know. No. It's not the kind of game you can sit and play for five hours straight. So it really is like Noby Noby Boy. A little bit. It's really good though. It's got more stuff to do than Noby Noby Boy.

No. But as much as Noby Noby Boy had nothing to do. Noby Noby Boy had nothing to do. But the thing that you did have to do was report your length to girl. You've got to do it. Of course. You've got to feed girl like 18,000 meters. So the girls can get to the moon.

Well, to Neptune. Well, no. No, we're going the other way with Noby Noby. Oh, well, far. And they started fudging the math at some point because it would be impossible to reach this. The planets are far, man. Well, you know they made an iOS game at some point that also contributed to it. Tracks.

Tracks do it. Yeah, I played those. I popped in Smash Bros. Brawl because I'm excited for the next Smash. When the fuck is that coming out? It's super soon, right? In September. In September. Oh, 3DS.

Yeah, exactly. The real version is... Ultimax and Smash. Like, fighting each other. Right around the corner. I don't think it's really a fight. Fight game. Yeah, Ultimax.

It's a bit of a curve stop. Well, no, you're completely wrong. I'd say Ultimax. I'm way more excited for Ultimax than the 3DS versions. Yeah, the 3DS versions of Smash is like nothing. Yeah. It's a taste. I'm still excited for it.

And it's got that Kirby air ride mode. I know. I bet what... I bet you the Wii U version will have an even more air ride. I think we talked about subspace emissary. We said you can't do subspace emissary again. Again? Because there's no way.

You did it. They were already doing subspace emissary again. Sakurai came out and said I was really bummed out about how everyone hated subspace and just watched all the cutscenes on YouTube. So if you're just going to watch all the fucking cutscenes on YouTube, we're just going to put that money into making, like, the introductions for the fighters. So you mean they're not doing subspace emissary? Well, no.

We've already seen most of this new subspace emissary. There's no in the fighter intros. Okay, but you know there's no story to do that. There we go. That's its direct replacement and we've already seen most of it. You just need more of the money. I mean the cool cutscenes. I don't care about the money.

I mean the cool cutscenes. Because Nintendo, who would have thought they would have the hypest action cutscenes ever? What do you mean who would have thought? The coolest roster of characters ever. Yeah, they don't use them like they should. But even so, the fact that they would present them in such a cool fighting anime sort of style. Like fucking seeing Mennonite and Fire Emblem characters going at it in hypers like sorts of stuff. Never would have imagined that.

I didn't imagine that. And you're like, yeah, please? Well, I mean as soon as the first smash came out, I always thought it was a no-brainer. Like where do you go from here as you go up? Yes, you know what I mean. But like the intros were like always, yeah, they were always kind of gradually getting there. You're right, you're right a little bit. If you remember the opening to Melee when Samus has a really cool jumping around sequence with Ridley.

So you popped in brawl. But you gotta say though, like fucking Fox landing on top of the Halberg, running through explosions. What next level should you compare it to? Smash is the always front end. So you popped in brawl and you immediately popped it out. No, I popped in brawl with intent to just poke around a little bit. Forgetting that, of course, my data had been transferred to my Wii U, so I had a fresh save file. And so I went around for...

Couldn't you just put your disc into the Wii U and that would make no GameCube controller? You don't have one? No, you can't plug one into the Wii U. Well, not yet. Not yet, exactly. And it probably won't be compatible with brawl anyway, but that's besides the point. So I played like 40 hours just re-unlocking stuff and having fun. Jeez.

I love Smash. Wow, that was a knock-down smash. That was just over a hot mount, that's all. I love Smash, so I just went through unlocking everything again. It's great. Finished up Space Emissary again. Just a good time. Did you use any hammers to break the glasses?

No. That's not what they're there for, they're for collecting. What? I'm like, I don't know anyone that's ever used one. No, exactly. What does it even look like? What is the animation of breaking a glass with a hammer? Exactly.

I had to poke around. You didn't? Ah, you suck. But I've just been poking around and I always felt this way ever since brawl kind of came out. There was no way Smash 4 is going to have as much content as brawl. There's no way on. I feel like you've laid down a challenge and Sakurai's ears just perked up.

Oh, and if he succeeds, I will apply it. Well, Liam, now that I think of it, since there are two versions, there's automatically going to be double the contest. I would say with an online that works, you can put more hours into it. Yeah, that much is definitely true. My guess is he knows that he can't meet that plateau in terms of content amount, so just focus on the quality instead. Well, of course.

And there was an old interview where he said there's just too much, like I can't do that again. I thought I was going to just die after the last one, so I put my soul into it. I don't have my soul anymore. We're finding no soul into it. You want to offer it to the shareholders. Yeah. No, they're finding out that we're finding out about how like you do that.

You sacrifice soul going to mobile. If you can charge a dollar to the sacrifice soul jump, we think this is what we're doing. Thank you. Just to fucking strike an attack on that. No, I was going to say that we were finding out about how the me fighters are like now you can dress them up like the other characters and stuff. Yeah. And I wouldn't be surprised if there's like even more shit that's like heavily customizable.

Yeah. Oh, sure. I mean if you think of brawl it's got so many things you've forgotten about. Of course. Like stickers. Yes. And sticker arranging. Yeah.

And sticker power-ups. I know. Which is why you're talking. Which is why it's like you trade all of that for like a new thing which is a me fighter and then just put a lot of depth into that one new thing. Oh, for sure. It makes me make a character. That's the only way.

I like how it had the classic demos. And it had just the list of all Nintendo games ever. Why did it have that? That was so useless. It had just so much everything. It was just to say look at us. Look at us. But I feel sorry for him coming to Smash 5.

I know. Because then like what the actual fuck. Well see, good for him because by that time it's just big drastic changes. His arms will be replaced by that ghost in the shell like Robots. Yeah. Yeah. I was actually really bummed about Smash 4's own art style. Because like Melee, well the first one had nothings.

It was whatever. Then Melee was all dark and a bit shiny. And then brawl everything was really- More pastel. More pastel. Not pastel but it's going to surround- I think a brawl I think of it being shiny. Like there was more whites.

It's a lighter color palette. Exactly. And then you get to Smash 4 and there's just nothing going on again. And I was a bit bummed by that. I think that like since it's a crossing over of different IPs though, they kind of have to meet in the middle. As opposed to- As opposed to Paul with Snake and Sonic?

No, no, I mean I just mean in terms of art style. Like I love something that would be like, you remember the Mario Strikers? Yeah. Like that was great. I don't mean outlandish. I just mean if you look at Melee and Brawl- You mean like lighting changes and subtle things. When you say it's art style you mean the menus and the UI?

No, I mean the characters in the game play. You see he's primarily referring to the shading. Yeah. There's a very focused look to Melee and Brawl and it's different. Melee looks a lot more like it's action figures. And Brawl and Four look a lot more like it's video game characters. But that's also the one thing is that while Nintendo IPs look really good, while Nintendo IPs look really good when you HD-ify them, they're also limited by how they could even

progress. Like the Kirby joke, right? Like Kirby can never- Mario can look a little different. Link and Zelda can look a little different but there's always a plateau where they can't even further to look any different. Don't murmur this character. Yeah, right?

And Mario Strikers, like you said, it's character art is great but when you look at it in the game it's just standard models or whatever. And we could go outlandish if they wanted to try something and you're not nuts but it's again it's bringing in IPs. It's like imagine you'd have to bring in Pac-Man and then make him a crazy new art style. Again, it's not anything nuts. I'm just saying like Brawl and Melee have a very interesting look to them that's actually not that bland when you actually look at it.

And then when I looked at Smash 4 I was a bit like, oh. I feel like Smash 4 is going for a look. It's going to be really fun. It's going to be an amazing 10 on 10 game that I will play forever but it's a shame that the game I will play forever will look like that. I have a feeling Smash 4 is going for a look in which the characters look like they have been literally lifted out of their own games. Yeah, probably.

How do you feel about the black outline on the look of the 3DS? The optional black outline? Optional. I don't think it's really anything really. It's just there to help you see your characters. Which apparently is really important because they get really small. Because the thing is like when I look at those... We played a couple of games, especially during Turtle Week where we complained about that

constant, we can't see our characters. What the fuck is happening? When I see that, I actually like the look. It's something where I'd almost want it to be optionally reversible onto the Wii U. But on the Wii U version, which is the version. Of course. You don't need it at all. It's just pretty.

Yeah. And there's nothing really going on. But you know, I know what you mean though. I know what you mean. At the end of the week, I don't know if you heard about it, but Mizoguchi's new game, his mobile, soulless, heartless, heartless game, is just really sad and depressing. What's it called? Every time I go to...

Out of soulless, heartless, nothing, casino slot, Royale, poker, dragon battle. Every time you go to Destructoid, that's the first thing they keep doing, updating this interview with him. And every time you go to Destructoid, every day this week, they always re-bump that RPG, whatever it is. They're like, look, the Miz is a soulless husband. Yeah. And every time it reminds me how this is in Last Story 2 or in Boston, in C2.

I remember how you wanted you to feel that. The guy who did Reds and the guy who did... Oh, Mizoguchi. Oh, my God. Yeah. I thought you meant... No, sorry. Sorry.

I know who you're talking about too. Then Sakaguchi. Yeah. Exactly. Sakaguchi. I'm making a snowboarding game. Snowboarding's cool. Yeah.

You're right. He left Q, and he's out on his own now, trying to stake his way. And I guess he's trying to get some capital. I guess. Oh, no, of course. Like the A. I believe... How about I pay you a thousand dollars and I can just talk to you for an hour, Mizoguchi?

How about that? We should kickstart stopping his game. Just kickstop his game. Kickstop his game. Give him money to make something else. No. If we give you money, you won't make this. Put it towards bank.

Can you imagine Capcom did that for all their announced mobile games? Yeah. And then they would take that and then make slightly different mobile games. You know that Mega Man Xover continually gets updates on new bosses? Xover. That's crossover. Sorry. Fuck me.

Yeah. Fuck you, man. Get it right. Fuck me from greenlighting that product. It's the most important Mega Man game of this time. I don't think anyone in Capcom could say that. It's the only one that exists right now. So that makes it de facto the most important.

How was your week, Pat? My week is okay. I watched a lot of Epo. Yeah. Epo hit that guy. He hit him. He punched him even. I heard he punched the guy.

So I made the trip from episode 25 through episode 76. So you're pretty much done. And watched the first movie. Yeah. Was the first movie you watched as the one that was about Epo? New Challenger. Yeah. The next one I'll be watching is Cuma vs. Menace.

Yeah. So you watched the one against the Doctor then. Yeah. That Doctor is fucking sick. That Doctor is great. Yeah. One is just a simple, great show. It is the most by the numbers like you said last week, sports, anime, ever.

Boy, did they build up to that one day. But it's sports, anime, meets street fighter. I feel like the entire show was to build up to one boxing punch combination. Which is shown off in the final. Yeah. And they do that thing. You know at the end of the anime where you expect the fucking theme from the intro to kick in.

They don't use the current one. They use the one from the season back. Which is much better. Oh. They knew. And it has the longest like in the comeback, depending on what it is, you'll hear like the one note come out way in front. Yeah.

Is it like roundabout? Yeah. Okay. So if the one note comes out and lasts for 10 seconds. Yeah. And then the second note comes out and lasts for what must be 15 or 20. Jeez. So when we're like, is the theme going to play?

And then finally it kicks in and sounds like, oh, it's amazing. What a cock block Mashaba is. Mashaba is the biggest. That dude's blocking, it's horrible, terrible. For a bit of context, Mashaba is just this scary boxer that Ippo manages to overcome very early on in the anime. And Ippo's like, I really want to fuck your sister. Yeah.

He's like, no. And then even the sister knows, say like he's a cock block of this giant massive fucking legendary. But he's a tall guy himself. Even his sister knows that he's a giant cock block and they try to get around his cock blocking. But his cock blocking is too good. And I have to say, this is going to be really stupid, but I get pretty, you guys have seen

me watch things. I get really emotionally invested. Sometimes. So cool. Ippo's boxing is cool and all. But in that first movie, when every one of his friends is like, just tell her, bro. Just tell her. And then that scene comes up and he's not doing it and I'm just sitting there biting

my nails. Like, just do it, though. Yeah. Yeah. Just do it. Yeah. It's out. It's so infuriating.

So I hope you both are great. I'm going to be watching the movie and then the two new series relatively soon. I played a bunch of Wolfenstein. Sorry. I was just going to say, everything you're describing about that, about Ippo, like in terms of the pacing and the overcoming, like it's not exactly like Hikaru no Go. It's almost the same number of episodes as well. Well, it's 76.

Two movies. Yeah. Then 26, then 25 and then they're not done yet. And they're not done yet. They took a six-year break to do a new season and they're still not out of that wolf punch that we showed you from the manga. They're not there yet. Yeah.

Like that and Initial D are just these things that are just long running until infinity. I'd like a guy to be having a boxing match in the car of Initial D and they come on and do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it.

Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it.

Do it. Do it. Oh, man. That'd be great. You played a bunch of Wolfenstein. I played a bunch of Wolfenstein. That game's a really good single player shooter. It's a really good single player shooter.

Did you shoot the Nazis? Dude, those Nazis are Nazi shit. Yeah. They don't shy away from, boy, the Nazis were jerks. Because you always find a newspaper clipping that you go, oh, this is pretty nice. There's so many games in which like- Like a real Nazi? We're going to fight the Nazis!

We're going to fucking Nazis. And the Nazis don't do anything bad. It's just like- They have a little Nazi sign on them and you're like, I know the Nazis are bad. But in Wolfenstein, they're like, by the way, the Nazis, they're really bad. Here's how bad they are. Well, I still love the grandpa who's just like, kill them all. Kill them all.

And you have, you have like, Polish American, Aryan, Blue-eyed, Ubermensch. Which is probably- Hard murdering all these Nazis. It's probably the most advantageous way you could ever look to be a hero. It's the Captain America story. Yeah, it's the same thing. It makes me really excited for Doom. And Doom won't be the same.

I fucking- I will shit my pants in anger if Doom has stealth kills. Right now, and I don't think I'm saying that. But the fact that what you're saying is that Wolfenstein is really good because it has like- It's a lot of very old school feeling in some of the arts, but it also has all the new stuff you come to expect. It feels like a mix between like a more arcade-y last light, Metro Last Light. Yeah, okay. And it just feels really good to do all this stuff. It just feels good to share.

That being said, one big complaint that I did not notice, because you saw, you guys saw I was mainly playing that with my headphones in the playstation. Then it's fine. You play that game on your television, that audio mixing for the voices is fucked. I noticed that. It is completely fucked. It feels like they mixed it for like 7.1, and that the voices are supposed to come out of the center channel. And if you have stereo, then fuck you. Because of whatever.

Your gun is louder than your character's own voice. That's weird, because I noticed that recently, because I was playing it a bit too. But when I first played my big couple of hours of it, I was wearing headphones. It's a lot easier to hear with headphones or surrounded headphones. That's a really weird nitpick, but it's turned subtitles on. Like subtitles default to foreign only, like German or Polish. No, you gotta turn them on for everything. And it wouldn't be a problem if the dialogue and the story weren't good.

They're really good. You want to hear the dialogue. I am shocked that I would say that BJ Blazkowicz, one of the dumbest, like, dude bro characters to ever exist in video games, is actually a compelling character in Wolfenstein. That's an interesting return. And part of the way they do that is they're like, well, BJ Blazkowicz has been through some shit, so he's kind of crazy. It's a little crazy. Okay. Like, he's walking around in a castle just swearing at paintings in this, like, whispery fury.

I love that whisper fury, because when you whisper, you're really good. And it's just like, oh, ooh. Okay. So if you were fighting the Nazis for 15 years, you'd be a little crazy too. And you also wasted 14 years not fighting them, and you have to get back into it. And you got no headway. No headway. No progress has been made.

If anything, like, you help them. Like, head to headway. Exactly. Really good. And then I played a bunch of Dark Souls 2 also. I beat it with a dex build, and I'm halfway through beating it with a magic build. You watch any Sword Art? Yes, I did.

Not the most recent one, though. Still good. Yeah. No, still terrible. Still terrible. But watchable. Totally watchable. By the way, I should mention there were a lot of people that, like, curled up our asses last week.

Fighting tape on your hands? No, it's my headphones. Oh, Jesus. Okay. He's about to fight you about Sword Art. Yeah, like, I'll fight you about Sword Art. You're doing some Ippo moves. You want to go?

What's Gazelle Punch? Gazelle Punch? What a stupid name for a punch. No. Frog Punch is worse. Frog Punch is great. Your fist would have to reach me. No.

A lot of people were like, oh my god, how could you and Liam get back in on episode 6? Episode 6 is everything that's wrong with the show. Yeah, we know. We know. That's kind of it. It's familiar. Like, it's like... It's vibes.

No, it's the trash that you like, not the trash that embarrasses you. Yeah. Yeah. That's like really good. Right? It's Jerry Springer. It's not Mori. It's Sword Art Online, like, that anime that you pick up at the cash register, right next

to the fucking jerky... No. Shitty tabloids. Simple. Like, is it that quality? It's like Naruto, but better. So you should get right into it. Which originally started as like Dragon Ball, but better, but then immediately shit the bed.

Yeah. It's like Naruto, but better. And then Bleach was like nothing, but not better than nothing. And then they changed the art style. But you appreciated Bleach, because they had the good sense to have like 180 episodes in a row that were fights. Yeah. Naruto was a surprise, because you didn't know, right?

It was like, Naruto was in the bed, and you're like, hey, Naruto, you're cool. Then you pull back the covers, and you're like, Naruto, did you shit the bed? And he's like, believe it. And you're like, oh shit, I didn't know that you shit the bed. Oh, I'm gonna get out of here. I'm out. I'm out. Because I mean, I feel like it's pretty good at all.

Looking back on it, Naruto peaked at Zebuzza. Yeah. Which is like embarrassingly early. That's the second one. That's the second one. Dude was the best. Yeah. And then you just never liked Sword Art.

Sword Art never came Sword Art peaked at its first 14 episodes, and it's never gonna get back to that, because it ruined itself. That being said, it is firmly above the second half of the first season. No, you know what? Sword Art peaked 10 minutes into the first episode. I think it goes a bit further than that, at least. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. Matt, how was your week? I finally got to see Guardians of the Galaxy. Yo, that one was good. I saw it. I got to my second screening of it. Yeah, you noticed something or two. Who did Nathan Fillon play in the movie?

Nathan Fillon was the big dude in the jail that gets thrown by Groot, with the big guy that comes at them, and Groot sticks his fingers up his nose. Wow, really? Yeah. That's Nathan Fillon. I guess he was the voice. Maybe he didn't do the mo. Maybe not, but that was him.

But yeah, I really enjoyed it. The first 20 minutes or so were a little clunky to me. It took a little while. It was only when they actually broke out. Yeah. The group actually meets. Okay. Right.

Where I was like, okay, now it's here to try. Well, you got to give everybody like five minutes to set up. Ah, Cherry Bomb! That's what I was going to say. It's really funny that James Gunn, the director of Guardians of the Galaxy, also did the English localization script rewrites for the Olive Pop Chainsaw. You can feel it. You can feel it.

And both Cherry Bomb by the Runaways is in both movies prominently, not both movies, but the Game and both movies. The Game and both movies, yeah. I thought that was weird. I really enjoyed it. And I was like, at the end of the movie, I'm like, okay. Well, it was not a spoiler because they didn't really say yet, but the question that the movie poses is who is Star-Lord's father?

Yes. Who is Prince Pratt's father? Yes. And you came into the movie. Can someone just tell me that right now? No. No. As far as I know, the comics, he's just some dude, some regular guy.

Well, here's the deal. And right now, guys, if you haven't seen the movie or whatever, spoilers, we're going to talk a little bit about Game of Guardians of the Galaxy. Game of Guardians. Game of Guardians. We have five minutes starting now. Okay. So in the comics, it's just a guy.

It's just a space guy. Right? And he's not anything. He's like a king kind of thing. Yeah. But he looks kind of like Corsair. Not a whole big thing going on. I'm Space.

I fucked your mom. Yeah, Baseball. And what the theory that some people are putting together now is like, yeah, they can do that. But how much cooler would it be if his dad was just Adam Warlock? Because in the movie... I don't know who that is. Well, Adam Warlock. No.

No. Fuck you. You don't get to ruin your eyes just because of him. Oh God. This guy doesn't know about Adam Warlock. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine.

It's fine. It's fine. This will make sense. This will make more sense. In the comics, Adam Warlock is Thanos' main opposing force. Okay. Basically... So for the movie continuity, they need one big more celestial guy to fight with Thanos.

Infinity Gauntlet equals the fucking gauntlet with Thanos and Adam Warlock is the other guy. Okay. Right? And they kind of build up to that by having Guardians 2 perhaps be about that, maybe be about Nova a little bit, and then you build up Avengers 3 to be where the gauntlet comes into play. Yeah.

And the funny thing too is that as you're watching this, you're like, oh shit, it's a gem, right? It's an infinity stuff. It's totally an infinity gem. And you're just like, well fuck, how weird of a... We're here. We're here. But how are we going to work in five more? And it's like, no.

Yeah. You have to remember it. Pay attention. Yeah. You've already seen Slash Tesseract. Slash Tesseract. Does he appear? Yeah.

It's its own object. That was the blue gem. It's its own object in the comics, but here it's like, this is already one of them, right? And Loki's staff... Well, no, that's the Tesseract. That was also the Tesseract. Okay. So that's the mind gem.

And then Thor 2 has the aether, which is the red one. Which is the third of the set. So you've already got three of them there. They just need to drop three more and we're already fucking in it. Unless and Galactus might already have one or two. We don't know. Do you have one or two? Yeah, I have the butt gem.

Yeah. And the one in Guardians of the Galaxy is power. Yeah. Purple means power. That's the good one. Well, originally it was red, but... Yeah. They're just...

Things change. Yeah. Yeah. Like I was... We're going places. I really enjoyed it, especially like as that. That third act was just... The third act's the best.

The third act is why the Phantom Menace failed so hard. You are totally right. Because it's the exact same thing. It's the exact same plot. There's a space battle. There's a space battle. There's hand-to-hand fighting. There's kind of comic...

Whoa, whoopsie is going on. Save the city. But they're sequential. Yeah. Instead of rampantly under... Like overcut on top of one another. So I really... To the point where the main bad guy is an underling of a bigger bad guy.

Yeah. And again, that's I think everyone's kind of main complaints. That Rowan and the Accuser are very nothing. Sort of, I mean... But that's Rowan and the Accuser. No, it's Rowan and the Accuser. But when you're watching a movie... He's not that cool.

He's cooler than that dark elf lord from Thor 2. That guy was even more nothing. Yeah. Speaking of which, could you see him in the collector's pods? That dark elf guy was just laying there in a pod. I was looking around for a lot. And there was a lot of blurry things. Yeah.

But there was that space dog who I should forget the name of. Yeah, the Russian man. That's a screenshot moment. Yeah. Kind of like in The Cabin in the Woods. Yeah, exactly. Where you just gotta pick the things out. See what else is in those pods.

Yeah. I don't know a whole ton about Marvel as far as that part of the universe goes. No, the universe. But I was bummed not to see a Nova Corps centurion. I was really weird to me. Because I don't know anything about Nova. And I see all these little lame Novas all the time. They say that those lame Nova guys were really lame.

The dudes had the uniform. They had the helmet. There were some guys that came in with it. But they were foot soldiers. They were like Nova. Well, centurions. Yes. If I am to understand correctly.

They didn't say the word. Those are centurions. Well, they didn't define exactly what roles. Right now they're just the cops. You know what I mean? That's what I'm saying. If these guys are what the centurions are in the movie universe, I don't want any part of it.

My guess is that yes they are. However, Nova the guy is going to still be Nova. Yeah. Like Richard Ryder is going to be introduced. Hold on. He'll be John C. Riley's character. I just want him a better suit. I might be incorrect because I don't know a ton about it.

But Nova Nova, like the one in Marvel, is a centurion. And what I'm saying is if the guys in the ships are the centurions. That's his form. But that's what I'm getting at is he's going to be better than that. Well, what I'm saying is where was the centurion? Well, Nova Nova, they were under attack. He went with the centurion. Your argument makes sense.

And in the next Guardians of the Galaxy movie, they're going to have that moment where you're like, oh man, Thanos is really stepping it up. We got to get better guys than the Nova Corps. What if we made a centurion? You might see a human rocket punch just yet. I agree with the fact that it is your dude. It's just he's so sick.

Everything he does. I appreciate the fact that they introduced the Nova Corps because once you introduce the Nova Corps, then you can have that Nova. You can go anywhere with it. I was so happy they were in there. And I love how they were just like, fuck it, the Kree, the Kree, the Kree, the Kree is here.

Yeah. You can spend time on it. There's a Kree. Yeah, just do it. I had a really weird moment watching that movie because I was like, wow, they really ripped off Massive. No. No.

No. Wait. So I'm an asshole. Right. So they can drop a scroll anytime now. And it'll be like appropriate. And you're probably going to have the Guardians being the human, not the humans, but the good guys that inform the Avengers

about space and go, hey guys. Space is big. It's out there. Yeah. Come fight in space. We are four years out from the deluge of four cap Chris Pratt fan fiction. Yeah.

Yeah. Pratt's the new one. Pratt's the new one. Did you see that picture? No. Some fangirls are going nuts. It's not a deluge now. It's a trickle.

I don't know. It'll be a deluge. Some fangirls are going nuts because there is an official still from Jurassic World, the next Jurassic Park movie, where Chris Pratt is the main hero guy. Yeah. I mean, he looks fucking gorgeous.

Well, he looks like this. Like this lightness, he's kind of looking through a glass window or something, and he's just looking at something. I guess a dinosaur. And he just looks amazing. He's got this weird. He makes him look like in Guardians of Galaxy,

like he looks like the Shlub that he used to be. Like on fucking Parks and Rec, he's the ultimate Shlub. Yeah, he's a Shlub. Yeah. And he's got this friendly, like almost Tom Hanks thing going on, combined with chiseled looks and man abs.

Yeah. It's soft eyes. Yeah. He's got soft eyes. Like he is perfect to play Star Horde. I saw an interview with him where he's like, yeah, so I was living in Maui, and I was homeless for a couple of years.

And the person goes, really? He goes, no, no, it was great being homeless in Maui. He's pretty good. I just lived on the beach in a tent. Yeah. And I exhaust him, actually. It wasn't that bad.

And I just smoked weed all day, like in this tent. And then this is so random. He goes, my first person that saw me and said, I'll put you in a movie, was this woman called Ray Day Dawn. And I went, that's familiar. And I look it up and it's the black lady from Commando. What?

The black lady from Commando became like a producer or whatever. And I was like, what the fuck? It's so random. I used to do that clip with him on shade 45, dropping the whole Eminem verse from Forgot about Dre. Yeah.

He did it really well. Because the black guy on the show was like, you can't, no, you're not legit. You don't know what to do when he drops the whole thing. He looks like a baby white person. You look like a baby white person. Yeah. The other two things I watched really quickly this week

is that I watched something that I've been putting off for a long fucking time, which is Terminator the Saracan Chronicles. Why? Please. Because I saw it at a store for $10, the entire series. And I was like $10 all the time.

If you saw a kick in the nuts on the street for $10, would you pay it? It depends who gave me the kit. Well, no, I want to ask, what did you think of it? So I watched it and I watched the entire first season and I was like, yeah. That's the worst. I'd rather than salvation.

Oh, yeah. It shits less than salvation. But the show, the head through the time gate. The show is so hampered by the budget. Yeah. It has such a disservice. So much so that when they have an actual cool scene where they travel a flash forward into the future,

where it's Kyle and his brother from 90210, Brian Austin Green, are there and he looks at a photo, Kyle Reese, and it's the camera shot so that you're seeing the back of the photo and he goes, and he starts looking at the photo like all wistfully. I'm like, oh, the photo of Sarah. Oh, of course.

That's really nice. That's a nice detail. But then they have the gall to show you the photo. The photo. I'm looking at it for a second. I'm like, what are you doing? Don't show the photo. Yeah.

Because it can't be Linda Hamilton. Yeah, it won't be. And they know that photo super well. So they show the worst Photoshop job ever where it's a pic of Lena Hedley from Game of Thrones almost. She's from a different movie. She's looking off to the left and there's a badly Photoshopped dog

that's looking in the complete opposite direction. And the dog is like red. It's the worst photo ever. And I went, oh my god. That's so bad. That is summer glow. Oh, she's terrible. I'm hearing it.

She's really bad. But her name's summer glow. She has a moment or two where that Terminator dry wit of not being aware of stuff is there. I'm a robot. All the male Terminators that show up, they all look like dads. They hire no one cool looking.

So they're just like regular Joe Blow guys. And I'm used to Terminators always being muscly dudes. Because she's one of those actors where I'm afraid of what happens when she's not attached to the Joss machine. Right? Yeah. And the kid they have playing John Connor is such a shit.

I thought Edward Furlong was the ultimate shit. But this kid is like, mom, we want to go to school. I'm like, learn to be the savior of humanity. Don't go to school. Don't get interested in girls. So I like Terminator a lot, as you know. Yes, you do. Terminator 1, all of it.

He loves all of it. But 2 is my favorite movie of all time. That's a good pick. No one's going to fight you. No, and nobody should. It's all win. Yeah, because you picked Terminator 2. I also thought the show sucked.

Having seen it like when it was coming out. It was just a total disappointment. Not as bad as Salvation, you're right. Did you catch that the guys who made the Rambo shooter are making a Terminator shooter? Yeah, that's correct. Terminator, the movie, the game. Salvation?

Based on a witch. Based on the movies. The Rambo, the guys who made the Rambo. The guys that made that shitty Rambo game for consoles. Not the Sega show that was sent here. The Railgun one. The one that we have. The one that we have for Rambo.

I did not catch that. Yes. I will play that. Because I will play a Terminator game. I can't wait to play it too. I beat Salvation in the game. Me too, me too. This is Wally's name on it.

Not for those reasons, but I did too. Good job ruining Terminator. I saw that like announcement. Many announced it on their Facebook and I could only think like I now know why you cry. I was like, oh, I'll see that. No, I'm looking forward to it. Because I love Terminator.

I saw a movie called Thirteen Sins which stars Steven Stills from the Scott Pilgrim movie. And it's on Netflix if you want to catch it out. It's one of the more like... In McCauley Culkin's brother. Isn't he? No. Am I getting that wrong?

Yes. The actor that played Steven Stills is... No, you're thinking of Wallace Wells. Whoops. Yeah, you're right. You're right. Yeah. So Steven Stills is in the band.

Like, he plays this guy who's down on his luck. My life is... I'm getting married. I have a baby. I got fired. Whatever game show calls him. You have... You can get $1,000 if you kill a fly.

What? And then they tell him what he's doing, where he is. Like, can you see me? It's like, kill a fly, get $1,000. It will be debited to your account. Which is account number 256, blah, blah, blah, blah. And he kills a fly and he goes... And he looks at his bank account and he has $1,000.

So he has 13 tasks, each one getting... Escalating. So like, where it gets so uncomfortable, not like uncomfortable, like embarrassing, uncomfortable, like, ooh, this is not going to wind up. Okay. My only number is what? 13 cents. 13 cents?

Which number is kill a human being? It's either like the eight... Do you want to tell you? Because... I don't want to know. Because if it's 13, it's like... But if it's like seven or eight, then you're like... Okay.

That's it. People get killed in the certain amount of tasks, but the first one happens in the mid-range and it's not kill a person. It's watch people get killed. Okay, fine. I'm interested. All right. Fair enough.

And then it's not a feel-good movie at all, but... If I'm interested, I'm even going to look up if the 13 cents are like after this podcast. And then determine. And then, no. I just want to... Just to know, yeah. It's like 13 ghosts. I didn't give a shit about 13 ghosts.

But I looked up what the 13 ghosts were. And I also beat Wolfenstein. Yeah! Because when I saw you playing, I was like, yeah! Did you fuck up Mecha Hitler? Um... Spoilers. There is a Mecha in the game.

Okay. And it was really good. It was one of those endings where I'm like, that's it? No. No, I'm happy with that. That's fine. Did you do both timelines? What?

I'm thinking I might just, since I have the disc version of Xbox One, I'll just pass it to Wally before I do the other two timelines. Sure, thank you. But I think in a couple of months, whatever, all of them. Because I've been wondering, obviously, if there's a concrete difference at the end of each timeline. Is that the choice at the beginning? Yeah.

Okay. The game actually segments it into two timelines. No, I just thought that was a huge end game spoiler over a second that you were talking about. There's one newspaper clipping way later in the game that you get where it says, like, you're in London or whatever, and you get no newspaper clipping that says, this just it, no one loves fish and chips anymore. Like, the German, like, Board of Health is proud to, everyone in London hates fish and chips.

Everyone's converted to sauerkraut and sausages. And then it just says, fish and chips are shit. Sauerkraut and sausage are clearly superior. And I think this is the moment where you know that they're the worst people in the world. Changing people's heritage foods. That's Nazi shit. That's some Nazi bullshit. I actually just remembered another thing I did this week.

Oh. You also played in B-Wolf. Yeah. No. You played sauerkraut and sausage. I unlocked and played a shit ton of the content in Dead Rising 3 Arcade Remix. Oh, yeah. You were doing that when I was leaving.

Yeah. I totally forgot that I popped it in and just decided to go through that. That's a really wacky fun thing to do. It looks so. But there's a problem with it in that the funnest content is locked so far back. Right? Like you think that they basically were trying to do a Dead Rising K-Zero type of thing. That was a great mini...

A Dead Rising K-Zero is possibly the best Dead Rising game. Is it? I hope so because that's the one that I played and enjoyed. It's probably the best one. For Super Turbo Arcade, whatever. Is it standalone like K-Zero? No. You need to get it.

Okay. Which I... Because K-Zero wasn't. Yeah. K-Zero was playing itself. K-Zero was standalone. This Arcade Remix is not. And I bought it.

And they're saying that shit isn't coming to PC. And I'm not going to buy Dead Rising 3 until that becomes a lie. I mean, you know. But basically... I told you that the only way that I kind of... Is that I found the one costume that was good enough to get all the other costumes. And that's where it seems like... They force you to use each character and unlock a bit with each one.

But it's just one of those things where the requirements for getting to the fun stuff are like fucking... I don't know, like 80% of the way through. And you're like, ah, guys, you shouldn't have trickled it this hard. No, no, what I mean is that there's one or two costumes that you can get a lot of the stuff. That is amazing. Well, I was going to say when I got Chun-Li's costume. That one was able to let me almost get everything in a couple of shots.

Except for the ones that require a certain... So what you're saying is because the fun is fantastic but relatively shallow, it would have benefited from being shorter. No, no, no, it's really shallow. The same amount of content but shorter and easier to get to. No, not even that. The only thing that should have changed was the unlock order of who you get with. Oh, the order.

The order that you progress to unlock the cool characters versus the ones that are like... You should have gotten the really popular strong ones right away. And the insanely weird... No, you can't. Rare one. No, but you should have gotten like... Because basically... Right, right away.

And have the really weird stuff at the end and you're unlocking characters like... Because everyone wants Ryu and Captain Commando, right? So you're like, save that for the end, that's fine, I get it. Sure. But like just to get to like Shoma and Chun-Li was already still a good ways in. You're like, ah, you know, the characters that you have to use to get to them are also not great at clearing these levels. No, that's enjoyable.

Weird. Yeah, but... I still really want to play that. Still, do it. And then like I haven't done a multiplayer yet, so I don't even know what that's like. You should do that. Just to see, you know. But like I'm sure you've gotten used to clearing them on your own.

I think it's still so nice. But I'd say the multiplayer is probably easier to do some stuff. To unlock some things. Perhaps. But it's really just overflowing with Capcom like... Love letter to the fans and all that stuff, you know. There's non-Capcom retro songs in there. The Tetris theme plays at some point.

There's shit from other companies and I have no idea how or why. Okay. Yeah. I think why is the more important question? But then how is the more interesting question? It's really strange. I'm like, what? You know?

Maybe Russia just owns that song. Maybe Russia. Maybe Russia funded Dead Rising 3. It's true. You never know with them. But yeah, that's the story this week. Capcom Vancouver has a cute little logo with the little CV box. Yes, it is cute.

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That's great. But we saw it. And you guys saw us seeing it. And you saw me and Woolly trying not to die. I thought both the conferences were great. They were fantastic. They're good. I like them both a lot.

I think that it would be more interesting to talk about. I feel like it's weird, but I like them more after. Like during the moment. I was like. When you weren't dying. I was like. Right. And I wouldn't have been even if I was rested.

But afterwards when I thought about like. It's good. I like that. But I and since we obviously saw this there and know what's going on. I wanted to talk a bit more about stuff that was happening off the stage. You know. So those are the things that. Can I say something since I didn't really get to say this during the videos.

Because like they were recorded in such a way. Like kudos to Sony for putting out so many new things. And like anti kudos to Microsoft for having one new game. Which one was that? That was the one we were calling Thrillville until we realized it was not Thrillville. Yeah. Yeah. They mainly showed.

Only new game trailers. For stuff they already had. Yeah. I guess. All looks great. Well quantum work feels new. But it's just. Because.

Yeah. We've seen it. Yeah. And well that's that's what happens when you have tons of indie stuff. But I know. I know. A bunch of brand new. Because any stuff is just coming out so fucking fast.

Oh definitely for sure. But like that's why I like Sony's all more. Because it was just like. Look at all this. I like Sony's more because it had the one game that I went in like super excited to play. And that was. Mmm. Numbers.

I'm looking for it now. That was that was that was a Bloodborne. Which looks great. Which looks great. And went for the extra mile in having the maiden blacks voice actor return her role as magic lady or whatever. Mmm. And have a little.

Rhyme. I'll touch the demon insider. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So the world might be mended. To meme says they didn't use a thesaurus to make their titles.

So don't. Companies like that. Stop telling them that they. Like Bloodborne is so close to dark souls when you look at it. I know. It's a great item. With descriptor. Mmm.

Well more importantly like the naming convention that is two words together. Wait. From a software. Titanfall. Ninja blade. Absolutely. What's happening. What's happening.

See. I don't think it's any heavier than. Probably. Harbor whore. Kingsfield. Armored core. All the from software games are named similar. Two things.

Lost kingdoms. Another century episode. Ninja blade. It's. Three things there. Yeah. They're all named item. That is.

In my name. And then descriptor. Descriptor. More or less. Or in the case of armored core and metal wolf. They're just up there about armored cores and or metal. Wolfs. Or metal.

Chaos. Yeah. It's the metal wolf. And then there's chaos. That happens. In his weight. Scale bound as well. You can throw that in.

I feel like we're looking through the looking glass here. Maybe. Like we like we've seen in the Paul marketing's plan. Well it's the same. But it's the same way how a lot of anime for there's a time period where it was. Adjective. Adjective now. Like the third word is the name of the main character.

Yeah. And the two words prior. You're like. No. No. No. That's different. I mean like car captor Sakura.

Oh. Oh. Prior. I love that's why. Pretty sense. She's Sailor Moon. Like grappler. But like the job.

And then the name of the person. The biker. Nice from Mars. But like the two words thing is going on forever. Yeah. Weapon Lord. Yes. I know.

I feel like this is the first moment that I saw it. I'd love to see someone run the numbers on that. Maybe. It's just a feeling. I'm curious. It's just a feeling. But I have no basis for this. So we want to talk about stuff that wasn't at the conference.

But well first on the docket is Pat wants to talk about Rise of the Tumor. Yeah. You wanted to too. These guys are like. I heard your reasoning and I have a different reason. Yo is that game exclusive or not? It's not. No.

It's not. It's timed exclusive. I gotta say I'm surprised on how easily they budged on how they said that. Yeah. So in the first interview they seem to be confused by the concept of time itself. And when asked like is this time they go what do you mean is it time. It's coming out exclusively. If you recall the slide during the conference said exclusive this holiday.

Yeah. And today or was it yesterday? It was yesterday. Phil Spencer had that interview which is super hilarious in which they're asking him like so what's the deal? He's like it is exclusive on the thing and he's being dodgy. And then like 10 minutes later in the interview they're asking him about Rise coming to PC and Phil Spencer utters the words why would we ever spend money keeping the Rise IP which

they own off of a platform which I think is extremely hilarious considering. But they don't own it. No. Rise is owned. Rise is owned by son of Rome. Yes. Yeah. Oh God that's so confusing.

Yeah. Sorry. Rise the Roman game for Crytek is coming to PC. Yeah. And the response is why would we ever stop a game owned by a third party from going to a different platform. Because they don't own it. Exactly.

Well they don't own Tomb Raider either. No. And that's exactly what's happening here. Well it might be. Yeah. Yeah. So it looks obviously you guys are right. It looks like Square Enix like asked for the money.

Well the question is to approach too. Exactly. And that's why I was like and because like when I read this thing the way it came out at least from Phil Spencer's mouth was that Square Enix approached them. Yeah. Square. You know. Yeah.

And then they went yeah we'll do we'll take it. If. And that's Matt just said like they were shaking their little. They're shaking their Square Enix butt. Yeah. And the Microsoft threw more. Microsoft's like I'm getting no butt over here so I know we'll no pay for that. So this butt's right there.

And it's cheap for me. I'm rich. Yeah. To me the question is really like who approached who. Because if it was Microsoft doing the approaching then like definitely Square Enix made the wrong choice. Yeah. Yeah.

Don't. I don't see who wins here. Yeah. Because Square Enix. Well there's a situation in which Square Enix wins. You don't know that they made the wrong choice. The situation in which Square Enix wins is they release the game on Xbox One. Right.

They enjoy a higher than regular Xbox One sales for the game. Comparatively to what they would have had. Exactly. They get higher sales on the Xbox One version. Right. They get the chunk of money from Microsoft. Yeah. And they later release it on PC and PS4.

Yeah. The only people who get subtracted here are the hundreds maybe of people who are offended by it. No. I think it matters because they're delaying the game however long. Well it's just for the platforms in which it would sell the most. Which I think it's and that's actually a really stupid idea. But so it makes me think that Microsoft paid them a lot of money.

Well the dependency here is how much of Rise the Tomb Raider is Microsoft going to market at its first holiday. Which I would say Microsoft is going to market it a lot. And at which point. And how long is this exclusive? At which point. Square can take their marketing money and market the PS4 version. Yeah.

It's not the first time we've seen this. It's not going to be the last. No. Not at all. But I'm surprised that if they went this way instead of going there out of like here's a big exclusive DLC pack. Yeah. Like instead of doing the GTA thing.

Yeah. Or the Destiny thing. Or the Destiny thing. Yeah. It just went this whole. Personally this one and I've been looking up some stuff and I have a NeoGaff user by the name of Dreck to thank for this write up. This really annoyed me and I'm not sure why because I don't even care about this game.

And it annoyed me because I want to buy an Xbox One eventually and I'm having trouble deciding and I thought about like Microsoft has a long long ass history of not making games and just buying them. So I have a list in front of me here of their first party output over the past ten years. Halo. Halo was a Mac game. But yeah. But you was making it from there.

You bought it and cancelled it for Mac and then it took years to come to the PC. And Steve Jobs lost his mind. Right. They bought FASA in 99 and those guys made Mac Warrior and Shadowrun and FASA is dead now and their IPs were licensed out. Like they bought Rare in 2002 and I don't even need to continue that. They bought Lionhead in 2000. We were talking about her is doing great.

They bought Lionhead in 2006 then made Lionhead stop making PC games and Fable lost his mind Only make Fable forever. And Fable's garbage now. Then when Bungie wanted to make Destiny they said no not Destiny make Halo forever. So then they left and then they started a new studio to make Halo forever. Then Microsoft Vancouver which has existed for like seven years. And put out nothing. And put out zero games.

Transformed into Black Tusk. And now they have a new studio. And now they don't have a new studio. They all get to make Gears of War forever. And then Forza. Forza's the good one. They made Forza. Sorry.

Who did you say made Mac Warrior? FASA. FASA. FASA. And not Activision? No. No they're for sure. Okay.

The new Mac Warriors. New. Sorry. Mac Assault and stuff. Okay. I'm like as I'm going back to like Mercenaries in 2015. Like what are you talking about? Yeah.

And it's just like you were saying to me like Microsoft spending money on an opportunity that they had to like get a get quote unquote for their console. Because they have no real rights. But it's like I see that and it's like it's frustrating because that's all they fucking do. Like put all this money like the NFL deal which is also mentioned in Direct's post. It costs 400 million dollars for a fantasy football app. They could have made like three or four or five destinies with that for that money.

Like no they could have bought destinies. They could have bought destinies. And watched dogs. And and and and and. And I will definitely a handful of like Child of Light style. It's like 50 of them. And it's just so frustrating that money goes to stop other people. Like I think this is not a value add for Xbox One because Xbox One was always going to

get Tomb Raider. There was nothing going to stop them from getting Tomb Raider. Yeah it was always coming. Unless you're the kind of person who's playing Tomb Raider on your thing and physically enjoying that other people can't play Tomb Raider then it's not a value add it's a value minus for other people. It's the bet that someone loves Tomb Raider so much. And that's what's crazy to me because it's just the new Tomb Raider.

But it's awesome. I can't think of anyone that would like love almost anything that much that you can't wait maybe six months to play it on something else. And that's why they're trying to be weird about the way. And I think you know it's like they're trailing so like palm marketing proposes that they need to get aggressive with their strategy and then Square approaches them and they go well sure. I think this is not a premonition or whatever but I think this is the last chance we're

going to see something like this because I think Sony's sales are such that at the end of the year they're probably going to be straight double the Xbox One sales. I think the time for this kind of deal is going to soon be over and there won't be enough money in the world to have these weird timed exclusive deals for the Xbox. And I just think it's a weird get. It's a weird get but on the other hand Tomb Raider sold over six million copies at this point. If they even get a couple hundred thousand it probably works out for them.

So when I look at that and I think did Square approach them because they're like yeah this game sold like shit we need exclusive money. It did not. It's not like shit. We know that but does Square Enix know that because they came out and said they were disappointed in the sales. But then they came out later and said but it's fine now. Yeah.

After a year they made their money. But after a year of it being disappointing to them. Well yeah but then it's made it because it's had something. They got right. But that's still a little soft of track that money. I'm talking about how they got four million out the gate and were disappointed. Because they expected five. Right.

And then they did six point something. And they're like yeah. Yeah well they discounted the shit out of that. But they still did it. I know. But is that weird Capcom style attitude of millions and millions aren't good enough. It had to have been a factor in trying to get exclusive monies. I don't think so.

I think I've mentioned this before is that I read an article like years ago and it said if you don't sell like the projected amount when you have a big HD triple A thing it's considered disappointment. If you sell long term and you actually make back those numbers long term it's you did it but it's still a disappointment because you failed that quarter. Yeah. Because you're thinking like I think it was the DS version of Call of Duty something. Yeah.

Sold like nothing. Like sold like 10,000 copies in its first quarter. But after a year it sold 800,000. And then they spent so little on the money on the game that they went holy shit. Yeah. It was crazy. We made all this money. We didn't know about it.

Expectations. Expectations. For a Japanese company also like for Japanese games I don't know if you guys follow the sales at all but 90% of most Japanese game sales are within the first like two weeks. Yeah. Yeah. Because then they sell them back and that was that was the resale market is so vicious and that was the Jojo numbers.

Yeah. Yeah. You know that was the first two weeks. We're a success but we were very very slow. Yeah. We're still not considered a great success. You granted the Tomb Raider re-release sold quite well. Again?

Yes it did. Man. Because you remember the thirst being real? Yeah. I didn't know it was that real that people would spend $60 on a good game way out. You got it. They already bought. You got a new console.

They already bought. It is not the quality in question when that statement comes up. It's the fact that that good game can be bought so much cheaper elsewhere. Yeah. But I mean if they don't have it elsewhere then what? There's like six platforms you could have gotten that game cheaper or like three. Meanwhile on the other end of the spectrum fucking Metal Gear is expanding and moving on to Steam.

Officially. Officially going the opposite direction of exclusive. Which at least surprising announcement. Which I have to say. Yeah. We want money. Let's go get it. Well they sponsored Joe L.A. a year and a half ago to help with PC development.

Yeah. I wonder what that means. There you go. I was talking to Matt about this the other day and it's like I've been a big champion of the PC and Steam are awesome. But when the box engine is supposed to run on consoles. But when you have a console setup and the console game comes out at 1080p60 I don't really care about the PC version anymore.

Like yeah I could have better shadows. Yeah I could have better textures to the distance. Negligible. But personally for my reasons 1080p60 is the reason why I spent extra money on a PC. I hear this coming out of your mouth but I still don't believe it. No I believe it. Because I thought you'd be way more up about fucking shaders and like all the particular stuff.

No no no. Ever since you got PC all in top spot was the resolution and the frame rate. And the frame rate. He never talked about. And when it comes down to it I used to play games at like 720p like that I could easily run at 1080p60 because I wanted like 5, 6 more frames. Nobody needs 64x FX AM. Like I PC game on a TV right and that TV does 1080p60.

So my use case for PC is different. If you are a real crazy hardcore PC gamer you have a fucking monitor that goes up to 2560 by 1440. In that case your monitor will kick the shit out of our televisions. And you need. Unless you're sitting across the room. You need those titans to push those pixels. But first people that do 1080p60 and the consoles at 1080p60 I like the PS4 controller better.

So you won't be ranting about the Witcher 3's downgrade. Witcher 3 is going to be 1080p. It's such a nag. But that's what those details are lack thereof. Witcher's different. I hate this like modern culture of like all the downgrade time where it's like it's so negligible. No I'm from Dark Souls 2.

Because that was a whole other game. That was a huge one. And Watch Dogs Witcher. And Watch Dogs Witcher. Watch Dogs Witcher. Watch Dogs Witcher. Watch Dogs Witcher. Watch Dogs.

Watch Dogs. No. Deep down got a downgrade yet. No but everyone accuses it of. And the game's still. I feel like we haven't seen enough of that game to even mention the termination. There's a ton of games. Watch Dogs.

Your eyeballs. Or you see it. You know what I mean. You just open your eyes and see. Which thing will ever be as bad. At least on the side. By something. Ever.

Be as bad as the 2005 Madden trailer for the 360 that was a CG. Everybody remembers this fucking thing. It was this nonsense horseshit CG trailer. That they said was gameplay. Not the Killzone trailer. No. No. The Madden one was way way worse.

Madden was like worse. No. The Witcher's not going to have a downgrade. It's just on consoles. It's going to run at 930. And when you see this. And the screenshots. Guess what.

It won't do any better. Because the Witcher fucking crushes PCs. There's screenshots of like Gamescom Microsoft machines where like the Xbox one is crashing to a level that goes desktop. Well no. The not Xbox one. Well that's what. Yeah.

The Xbox one. The Xbox one. Yeah. The Xbox one. Yeah. The Xbox one. Yeah. The Xbox one.

The Xbox one. Yeah. The Xbox one. Yeah. The Xbox one. Yeah. The Xbox one. Like press release for something like that doesn't have PC in the title because then you're

lying. Yeah. Like Byte. Oh you're implying that it might be existing. Like fuck you. I know this is coming to PC. You know it's coming to PC. And look.

Look. There it is on PC. I think it's garbage if you're going to pop an Xbox one and a Kinect and 1- slightly controller, they have a Kinect. What if what is wrong? Tell them it's running on PC. PC build. What's wrong with that?

Not marketable enough. I remember that happened the first C3 where the consoles were playable and people were looking and Microsoft guys taking a part and there's just a gigantic towel on there. Because how bad does it look if there is no PC version that ever comes out? It looks really bad. So you should put one out. But if they don't want to for marketing purposes. No.

Put it out. Fucker. Get it build ready. Get it build ready. Put it out or don't get caught. How about that? That's what that's saying. Yeah.

It's like, well, what did you expect? Imagine, don't drop your pants. Imagine it gets really wacky and then there's something wrong with Bayonetta 2 and they open it up and there's like a PS4 in there and they're like, oh shit. And they go to the PS4 build and like, oh, we got PT running over here and they open it up and there's a Wii inside. I just see like Bayonetta 2 crashing and it's just like HL2.exe is stuck. This is a very petty detail and it's not for Microsoft's game division.

It's their software division that I get a really huge Shavenfraub kick out of. And that's every time this has happened. They are clearly crashing to Windows 7 desktops and I think that is the funniest fucking thing in the world. I think that is hilarious. Not even Microsoft will use Windows 8. For some reason, Matt, I'm picturing the Sony booth where they crash and they open up and it's not just crashing to a Wii, it's crashing to like a hacked Wii.

Thank you for using bannerbomb. You go to Brian and you joke about that. That has happened a lot on Steam where they'll say we're patching out the DRM and then you go in and it's like, is this the fucking war of the way? It's the Pirate Crack EXE with the documentation in the folder. Are you serious? Rockstar got caught with that. They did.

It was Max Payne too. They did. Where they just stole it off from that Pirate site. Well, whatever the fuck. There's no time. I think it's fine if you're going to... Oh yeah, but it's hilarious. It's hilarious.

Because you're going to decry these people with scumbags and then steal their hard work. Wow. It sucks when your hard work gets stolen doesn't it? Not when you're distributing your hard work. Yeah, I think that's a rough argument. It's almost like... It's not the same. It's not the same.

But it's funny. But I'm picturing them walking over, taking it from the hackers and looking at them like, what? You're going to say something? You're going to say... Oh yeah, it goes both ways. It goes both ways. Absolutely.

No, it goes one way. You laugh when it happens. At least my assassin won't get what's coming to him. So yeah, I've said my piece, Rise of the Tomb Raider. More importantly than anything, what a terrible name. What a terrible name. What an awful name. I have nothing against the name.

It makes no sense. So bad. Rise of the Tomb Raider was the first game. It should have been the first one. It wasn't exactly a Tomb Raider in history. Then why'd they call it Tomb Raider? Because it's the build-up. The build-up is Rise of the Tomb Raider.

Intellectual property. It is so stupid. I said this the other day. I said, what if they called the Batman movie The Dark Knight, then they called Rise of the Dark Knight, and the bat goes, that's what they did. That's what happened. No, totally.

It's not like I would want this, but I would have been better if it was called Rise of Lara Croft. Sure. Would have worked. Sure. But that's the problem. This is only happening now is that a reboot is so successful they have to make another one,

but they can't call it Tomb Raider II. That would be the most confusing shit ever. Tomb Raider II, 2415. You have to call it because there's already a Tomb Raider and there's already a Tomb Raider II. Did Tomb Raider II have a subtitle? No. Is it Tomb Raider III that might have had a subtitle?

I think Tomb Raider IV was the weakest one that had a subtitle. Reboots that just take the name over, they just throw the number on. That's why I have a problem with Killer Instinct. Why isn't it called Killer Instinct III? It is an actual sequel, and now you have to call it Killer Instinct Season 2, but you can't call it Killer Instinct II.

Yeah, it's stupid. Well, Phantom Dust is getting that treatment too. It's called Phantom Dust. I want to say something. My favorite thing about the whole Tomb Raider debacle was when the guys at Crystal Linux, who are great guys, had their little press releases that said, and for PC and PS4 users,

we still have Lara Croft in the game. Temple of Osiris. Okay. You know what? Not really. Could these two be the better games? Yes, that's gross, and it sounds just like we have a great console

for people without connectivity. It's called the Xbox 360. It sounds like the exact same thing, but at the same time, Matt's right. I am so much more excited for Temple of Osiris than I am for Rise of the Whatever. Because it's a fun, more fun game.

It's a game with Guardian of Light than I did with Tomb Raider. It's a great game. Meanwhile, Guillermo and Kojima are saying, please shit your pants. Please shit your pants. Did you see the P4R article on that? No.

Kojima says he wants to kill people playing P2. He wants people to die playing P2. Lives must be lost. If you can send me a list of everyone that's died, that will make my day. I want to give, first of all, we should all give props to Kojima

despite following him for decades and getting fooled every time. We say he's not going to get us this time. And he gets us every single time. I couldn't believe Phantom Pain fooled me for the short period.

And the funniest thing about Phantom Pain when that was first shown, I thought that might have been the Kojima Silent Hill game. We guess that the fire ghost and stuff like that. They were crawling or eating. And now we fool this again.

And that PT is playable teaser. I would like to imagine that this conversation happened immediately after they took that photo together. And then Koji tweeted, who are you if you are Japanese and do not watch Pacific Rim? And then they went and did lunch.

And then they pooped their pants and were like, this is a good feeling. That was the GDD. The photo of him and Norman Reedus from months and months ago where they're just hanging out, being celebrity friends. That was a game developer's conference with the actors.

Please brace yourselves for the David Cage Koji game that's coming soon. I would absolutely love that. You get to see of acid and basic cancel each other out

or cause a supernova. That'd be amazing because you have a game like that with David Cage and Kojima. You take Kojima's panache for movie directing and the emotional characters and you take David Cage's... No, whatever.

That's a stupid example. It's the kind of game that you finish and you go 11 on 10, we'll never play again. Never. Fuck this awful game. Worst game I've ever played. Speaking of great experiences... I just want to say P.T. is the scariest thing ever.

Cool, I don't know. Liam, you have not played P.T. We'll continue to not play P.T. Until... Until you get the chance to play P.T. Liam, I hate you because you beat it. I couldn't beat it and most people can't beat it.

What was your time frame? Sorry, hour 45. I tapped out in 65 minutes for two reasons. One, I was making no progress. I was making no progress at all. And two, I couldn't do it. I could not do it anymore.

I played that fucking thing for 65 minutes and I was just like... I wasn't looking at the screen for a little bit. Two... In my bathroom? And take a long shower. And shit in the shower. That shit is intense.

I saw someone posted a thing like what are the best survival horror games ever. And some people are actually saying P.T. Within a week of P.T. appearing, there's people saying P.T. P.T. There's this one funny post where it's like I find it funny people are saying P.T. when it's not even out yet.

And it's like, wow, way to know what you're talking about. It is fucking terrifying. One thing that I really like... How continued it does? The title is Silent Hills. Yeah, implying multiple people. Implying multiple people or dimensions.

How very... How very aliens and predatory. But as a little aside, and I'm guessing Kojima would have thought of this, especially with Konami's sister in the series, Silent Hills in all caps is a sneaky way to write Silent Hill 5.

Yeah, a little bit. Which, yes. This is... This feels alright like Silent Hill 5. Let's say the name changes. Silent Hill 5, that is a huge slap on the face to

climax and double helix. Yeah, well, they deserved that slap. Sure. Silent Hill Homecoming was called Silent Hill 5 for a big period of time. They were like, no, we're taking the number away, motherfucker. To be fair, that's also a marketing thing

of we've made too many. What if... What if it's just... Oh, yeah, that was a typo. Does that mean to put that S on, though? Remember, the S piece walker was solid... piece walker was solid 5 as well.

And I'm sure Kojima wanted that, but then Konami said there's no way we're letting you call it that. Please don't put a number here. Please don't put a number. I'm looking forward to this game in fucking 2016. I have this thing where I'm looking at the game

and I really want to support it, but if it's as scary as PT, I'm not buying it because I don't think I could get through half the game. I think it might be too scary. No, no, dude. I play a lot of fucking survival horror.

I tapped out, I stopped. The game is terrifying and it all depends for people like you. The first person to respect it is a big part of it. It'll be less scary in third person for sure.

If you have Norman Reedus, you know that part of that game is going to be third person. You don't get... And he's modeled. But the question is, as Kojima said, we're looking at two designs. One is that it's 90% third person

and sometimes you go into a section and it's only first person. That seems a little... I would say that's the least optimal way to do it. Or the entire game is both and there's a button that switches your perspective. Yeah. Like the suffering.

The suffering or fall out. Or fall out. But that... Either one looks janky though. I feel like the first one is probably better. It's probably better except you know it's a big red flag when you're in first person. Yeah, if you're first person you've entered into a spooky zone.

Close your eyes and hold forward. Is it just me or has the wind been sucked out of the evil within sales a little bit? No. It's a totally different genre. Action horror is not... I'm not sure. They're going for...

Action horror? Absolutely. But they're still doing the mood and atmosphere thing and they want to scare you. I think when the ad campaign for evil within actually ramps up and it's month lead up to release, I think we'll start to see it. Evil within... And Resident Evil's old fear

was not of nameless beasts or nothings. It was, what the fuck is that? That's scary. I'm going to shoot it. I don't have enough to shoot it. It's a perceptible threat in action horror

and in old Resident Evil. Survival horror is about a perceptual threat. Whereas Silent Hill has always been on the other edge of survival horror. I don't know what's happening now. I don't know what I'm looking at. And it is unfight...

You can't fight anything in that. You are helpless. Okay, cool. Shatter memory style I guess. It is the difference. More helpless. It is the difference between old survival horror games and the new genre

created with amnesia. Which is the pure horror game. Which is hide don't die. Don't die. As I was trying to try this earlier. Speaking of things to look forward to,

this week on the Instabacked category is the new Kickstarter project called Tetropolis. I saw that nitra. What a fucking neat name. I saw it. I always saw this name.

And I looked at it and I was like I don't not feel it. Metroidvania plus Tetris. A broken tetramino that doesn't have four blocks. And it's just like rearrange yourself and fucking go.

And to me that's two great tastes that I enjoy separately. I think it's a... It says the little girl. I don't know if you've ever seen me eat my food. I separate all my food into components. It's true. You put up the Berlin Wall to separate your food.

And if you serve in Shepard's pie he will separate the layers. What a Tetris thinking man. I wish they could make this an action game. Neither did I, but when I saw that trailer I was sold in the same moment that I saw that concept. I love how they fill it as a Tetroidvania.

What a great word. Indie guys. I never would have thought I wanted this until I saw how well they thought about the concept. And it wasn't just what if there was a Tetris block here. They show other things like the map itself rotates

and there's other things like that. See, that was the point where I decided I didn't want it anymore. Because I'm going to be taking a more hardline stance and that I hate puzzles and I think puzzles should be removed from other genres. That's crazy. You're a crazy person.

I was talking to Pat about certain types of puzzles and he was just like, yeah, I would hate that. I agree that certain types of puzzles should be removed from other games. Block and sliding. You're haters. No, no, I like Kath and Robert talking about

the RE4 slide puzzle. It's so easy. I enjoy that. I love those puzzles. It's easy if you can visualize it. If you can't, then you're fucked. It's not just also this game, but it's like that is exactly how much progress I want to see

on a Kickstarter video. I want to see it that far along to be like, yeah, here you go. I want this. I think that's free the games thing, too. They get to double it up. What the fuck is that name? The name of that medieval RPG for PC?

You mean all of them? No, the one on this Kickstarter looked really good. You mean all of them? The first person one. Fuck, that one did look really good. That thing was really far along and they had a lot to show and that's why I ended up kickstarting it.

But that's the thing. Sometimes on a game, it shows too much. It's like, what do you want? What do you need our money for? More of what you've shown. Yeah, it's called Kingdom Come. I think. Hold on, I've got to check this. But no, Kingdom Come deliverance.

What a terrible name. To me, everything about that screams like, yes, yes, absolutely. And I saw some of the backer warriors that were like, oh, create your own Misfit NPC block character type thing. Yeah, and I'm looking at that and I'm like,

who would do this? Well, I wouldn't mind the little block that was made of purple, green, and yellow. Whatever. What's that block called? Shit block. Shit block.

I'm like, that's cool stuff. Other things. Hey, did you see that Game of the Year material WWE Supercard came out this week? I was going to ask you, did you play that? Yes, I did. You were like, this is legit good. There's some really funny things.

Virgil's card says he's 0 out of 100. Yeah. Why are you shooting on Virgil so much? Did I miss something? That's hilarious. I think what some of it comes from is an OSW review is one of them met Virgil and he scammed them into giving him

an autograph that he didn't want and then charged him $10. And he was like, fucking Virgil owes me $10. And I was just saying how Virgil was because it was the hatred of the million dollar man not the love of Virgil when Virgil was his own singles rustler.

Dude, I told you you can go follow the whole chronicle of Virgil on the O&A show. And all the sad, the sad autograph sessions where it's like meet Virgil WWE Superstar. I forgot what the website was, but it was like lonelyvirgil.com

See people on those lines. Pictures of him at cons. Game is fun. It's got none of that free to play. You know when they have an artificial time limit? It's got no energy meter. It's got no energy meter.

So just play as much as you want. Go on the Hearthstone route with it. I play my Sina. It wins. It's pretty cute though. You just got a new phone so you should give it a go. You know what the obvious thing is here is that you're a budding manager

and that you fucking get wrestlers and it's just Pokemon. I was going to say that you have... You can take a manager or Vince McMahon and you're like I'm going to play the resurrection card and I resurrect.

Pick one. Chris Benoit popping out of the limo. I don't know. Mr. Perfect. May young from the grave. It's just a skeleton. She summons a giant hand. She summons Kenji Inno.

Kenji Inno. Are you mixing up my skeleton? Yeah. My deep skeleton lore. Yeah, the new skeleton warriors. It's Kenji Inno and May young. And May young shoots hands. And Coulter.

What was the fourth one? There was someone else that you attributed that to. Fuck. No, there was a fourth. I don't remember. Someone remembers the fourth skeleton. Yeah.

Oh god, I was on the tip of my tongue. Who cares? We also neglected earlier to mention fucking... Apparently Donut is not dead. Yeah. I thought they were dead. They stayed on the brink.

Now they're making a game. I feel really bad that I didn't remember their name. Life is Strange. Are they helping the makers or did they just pay for it? Publish it. A weird game. It's like an adventure game. And you know what?

We don't know exactly what it is yet. It's very confusing because the screenshots show you some 2D art and some 3D stuff. But they're saying the game is 2D. Yeah, something is. So I don't know what the 3D part has to do with it. I haven't looked at any footage. Is there footage of it? No, just some concept art.

But... If everything works out and they kind of thought about the way Remember Me Played Out got their shit together. This game is going to be just the memory remix sections. Or something like that.

The equivalent thereof. As a game. And not the actual game outside of that. And then they'd be fine. It might be a flash kick though. Because you saw the memory remixes, Pat. Okay, they're cool. There's better in Ghost Trick.

The others that you get later in are actually pretty good too. And you know what? That's a puzzle that you might even like. I like Ghost Trick. Okay, well... Ghost Trick's amazing, Pat. We get it. I love Ghost Trick too.

Not as good as Geist, but you know. You really get down to it. There's that dog food in that one. And that's just ripping off Messiah, that classic. Right, that classic everyone. So that's just something that's like, whoa, these guys are still alive? That was a big surprise there.

If this doesn't pan out though, probably not. Also, Still Alive is the last Guardian because we got an update saying it's not dead. Again, just to keep... We're not going to show it to you. We're making progress, but we're still not going to show it. This time around, he said there was a major technical set. Yeah, they haven't had enough time to make it.

They have finally admitted that the reason why it's been delayed so long is the reason a lot of people thought when you were looking at job listings is that the original design for the game just wasn't working. You couldn't make it go on PS3. So implicit confirmation

that it's a PS4 game. Sure. We will sit with baited breath. Sony again buying that exclusivity and not releasing 100 million dollars. They've spent like 100 million dollars on this. They're making it. I don't know, because it's always been a very small team.

Well, it's because Sony came shaking their little tail to Sony. And Sony was like, well... I'm not going to let this go on other causes. Yeah, no, that's coming back. Also coming back is the dude behind Icaruga and we had SilverGum

with a game called Usubana. And he also made Kokuga as well. Don't forget Kokuga. Hiroshi Iyuchi is making his next Shmup game. And it's like, with that type of fucking god level pedigree, damn right I'm interested.

That's on PS4 only, right? Yeah, I think it's a PS4 exclusive. Yeah. He's buying that exclusivity. Just making sure no one else can buy it. No, he didn't buy it. He just looked at the market and said, who's going to buy a Shmup? If you don't know that.

Matt, you're being shitty for no reason. I just find how you're like, oh, it's exclusive to this console. It's all awesome and shit. You don't know. It'll come to PC eventually. Phantoms are exclusive, but I'm not going to say buying that.

And by eventually, I mean like 20 years from now. What I'm saying is that you really can say Nintendo's coming out with it. I'm going to say Nintendo buying that exclusivity for it. That'll save Nintendo. I was about to say that they're my favorite Shmups.

I don't know if I can say they're the best just in case someone out there knows better than me. Gradius V. But then I just remembered, oh wait, he made Gradius V too. He did? Yes. That's my brain. But then he was like, mmm,

Gradius V is pretty good. That's literally where I was going. Is he also made Gradius V? So, fuck. Right? What else? Who? Cave. Cave is the only other guy. That would stand a chance

in his majesty. If you make that 3DS Shmup, that wasn't released here. Wasn't released in Canada. Came out in America. No, no, not because of Quebec laws. Because of rights holder bullshit. And I remember

for a while we thought there was a Wonderswan exclusive third game that he made that was part of the trilogy called... Judgment Silver Sword. It exists, but it was not made by him. No, I know. But that's the third one.

Judgment Silver Sword. It is really good though. But it turns out he wasn't responsible. I can't believe you also made Gradius V. Yeah, man! You gonna tell me you made Bangai-O as well? No, you're not. No, gacked it by himself. Yeah.

We're just talking about dead things, so why stop there? How do we rub salt in the wound of knowing that the Metal Gear remake is getting cancelled or got cancelled? Here's a trailer with David Hader. David Hader was involved on the fan remake. He killed it.

He was the whistleblower. He was like, let me help you guys out and then fucking report you in. Apparently the official reason that the guy that headed the project was, I believe it was like we got an okay from Konami. Which they never clarified.

Of all of Konami. So all of Konami were fighting each other about it. Our initial advice remains rock solid. Shut up! Now the question is, well, you know what? Maybe at the time,

David Hader asked. But that's what's up, right? Maybe at the time. Well, no, you remember why they talked for this one? It was because they needed more guys, because they couldn't do it. Well, they were at a point where they were like, that is the one we need. That is the one we need.

Because now it's dead. Now it's dead. Do every single thing available before... Or you know what? Create a fake, not copyright infringing game. Say we really want people...

Exactly, we want people that love Metal Gear for this Metal Gear inspired game that has a really cool name attached to it. And then just fucking flip it, you know? Just flip it? No, you release the generic. You release the generic thing, which is the fake.

But it's its own game, and then you patch a special Metal Gear version, and they're like, because then that won't get headlines, because it's a patch thing. And then it'll get to live for a long enough time, but it will be unremovable. Beat for fucking power, man. Every time.

Beat for power, which is so cool! Yeah. It doesn't look cool, it is cool. Yeah, right. Some other things popping up this week. There was some concept art for Hyrule Warriors that was shown off, including Linkal.

There was a Rule 63 link there. Oh my god. Linkal Girl Link, it's cool! But in Japanese it's Rinkuru, you know? My brain just did the stupidest thing it's ever done in my life. What? You said Hyrule Warriors

and now all I can think of, because we were talking about Skeletons earlier, is Hyrule Warriors! Hyrule Warriors! Prince Link's style! And I'm really mad. Yeah, but fortunately, Hyrule Warriors is totally up to have DLC,

new characters, and superheroes. So you still might get it! This content that I'm saying has no value. No, it doesn't. The ability to laugh at my dumb brain. You should be ashamed of your brain. You know what? All you really need to do is That has convinced me that Skeletons

are hilarious! That all you need to do is switch the character models out and you can just play as a Stalfo and then you're much better. Also, I have a serious issue with look, here's a girl version of Link. Because you could just say

Link is a girl in most games and change nothing. I was going to say also, I remember reading that it wasn't actually Link. No, it was another character. She did not have a master sword or a sword to speak of. So she's like Fiona.

Well, and actually she did, because what I was about to say was there's the main design they show you with the crossbow. And I'm like, yeah, that's alright. And then there's the secondary one up top that shows her with a sword and shield and a completely different look

and that looks way cooler in my opinion. The tunic was like an open green jacket and then the hat and the long hair and stuff and it looked like that. These are elf people. You could just change the pronoun and it's fine. Anyone from

the Kokoree Village? Yeah, I was dressed that way. I wasn't a huge fan of the design because I looked at it and I was like, why do you need to make the character look so much like a girl girl? Why can't it just be Link with breasts? Which one? This Link L design.

The big one? Yeah. It's like why she got to be so girly. If you're going to make a girl link, just make it a girl link. Yeah, because Link doesn't look manly. Like the one on the side where there's just no pants even type of thing, which to be fair,

like Young Link has as well. But that one with the open tunic is just a fancy way better. No need for a cutesy hood and all that frill and stuff. Just make it a cool girl link. I appreciate them making something more different

than just comforting more hats on Link. Yes, totally. And I think the fact that they were considering this is like, why didn't you just go for it? It might be. It might come out as DLC. You don't know. They're mysterious about that DLC.

I hope either Udon or Dark Horse put out that art book. Likewise. From Link being a chick in a different game, I think is completely fine and should honestly probably happen because they were willing to make Link fucking right-handed.

It's always like a betrayal of the character. Like this character doesn't fucking speak. And the character's only defining characteristic is that they are left-handed. And you made it right-handed in two games. So you can do fucking anything with this character.

And of course, our Adventure Time brains like to see the real 63 versions of the whole world. I want to see Prince Zelda! Prince Zelda and then Queen Ganon. Oh, that'd be so cool! I have no real desire for any other character than a female Link. Fair enough.

I want to see all three just for the designs. Queen Ganon would just look just like Minna. I mean, a little bit. She's bigger and more menacing, though. But just do that. Not just for her. Menacing?

Well, I would want it to be more like Impa in a way. Just like a Brienne type. Yeah. Well, we'll wait 20 years and none of it will happen. Who's to say Onox isn't to grow under all that armor? No one knows.

Yeah, we've got that going on. There's a bunch of release dates as well that got announced for shit. And now moved around and shit? Yeah, so the first one that comes to mind is in season 2, October 15th. Much earlier than that. So if you saw it, the reason why it's

much earlier than that. Yeah. The final was scary. He's the skeleton! That's the scariest of them all! I was going to say that you know there's a skeleton inside you right now! You need to look up a-

And it wants to get out! Anyone who thinks that joke is stupid should look up a video of a skeleton man and it is a song sung by British people about a superhero with the power of a skeleton. One day

during a trip to the doctor's office he was hit by X-rays and discovered that he had inside him a skeleton! It's pretty good. I was going to say that right after this. Coulter

Mayor Kenjina October 15th is really nice because it's like all those new features will be there but it's like now it's just TJ Combo and Maya at launch and then unlike season 1

it's one character per month rather than one for lunch. When is Smash coming out again? September 30th So Ultimax, Smash, and K.I. There is a said October and September There is a holiday

fighting game thing going on. Guilty Gear in Japan Well, I honestly would have preferred if they waited and dropped two more in there and then released it. I'm just glad it's not coming out in the

death month of September. September is the death month though. September is the death month though. Nobody wants to go up against Destiny and Lord of the Rings They feel confident enough to release it and have the experience grow while people are playing it

and people want their hands on it definitely. I just wouldn't have mind waiting. I waited too but I have no problem. Spring is usually the time for fighters. Like Street Fighter 4 is the time for that. But now it's holiday

because the hall fighters are big but specifically Spring like September and then February as well. I don't think too much of the date because I don't think Microsoft ever had K.I. as a project where they said we need to sell

X-Million and they always had K.I. as a project of we want every user to download this. So for me the date doesn't matter. The amount of content it'll all go to eventually. I just like a season. It's only happened

7 times but you get these bursts of flight. There are 5 fighters out in the next 3 months. It's a problem. It's the best problem. Because you're in training mode and I didn't even learn half this character. Swish!

There have been news I just want to tag on the end of that which is I was personally excited for it. I'm not sure if this has happened before but they're getting the original so when people say why don't you have K.I. working on this new killer ink because every single person that works on

K.I. has left long ago. So they have the original art director and character designer of the original two killer ink coming back for this season to give everyone a specific costume that he's designed and I'm so excited to see whether

how do you do that? Has your artistic style changed or are you going in there to specifically make a big dumb 90s thing? Hopefully both. I'm really interested to see what that's like.

Imagine you pulled Joe Madd onto a project. You want Joe Madd style. You don't want an updated thing that we're getting. The better example here would be Leifeld. But why would you pull them onto anything? So you can get the dumb costume. It's true if you really ask

people to pay money for. Yeah, exactly. But I have to assume that a guy is not getting paid to make a dumb thing. He's getting paid to do a different take. I saw the new killer instinct t-shirts to the promotional ones. God, they look so

fucking cool. Oh, I thought all the ones I've seen so far were like garbage. I hate them. Which ones are you talking about? The ones with the sprite version of Sidira and the sprite version of What's Her Face? Oh, I need to find one. Is it the official ones done by Penny Arcade?

I don't know. That's the ones that have been cracked so far. I saw them on the Iron Galaxy Twitter. Okay, I'll have to check that out. When's Killer Cuts out? September 17th. Okay, good. I'm looking forward to that. What's the over-under on Dave Lang having like a single line

of like Dave Lang rapping in Killer Cuts? Awesome one. Cause it's really high. TGA combo is like songs apparently rap songs. See, we have not yet confirmed that K.I. has entered the Lang zone. No, K.I. is in the Lang zone.

Lang was on the panel at U-Bow for it. Like, there needs to be literally nothing to say. Whenever they cut the Lang you'd always be making jokes and not working. There needs to be I'm playing with my dick. There needs to be a specific combo number

that is just him saying it but only that number. And it's on hype. Like 68. I'm bad at Dive Kid Combo. Look at my head. Combo. It's bold and very far from the ground.

What other dates? We've got the dates coming out for Never Alone that platformer about the native little girl. Oh, right, right, yeah. Current gen NPC

November 4th. Hey, if you're going on dates, where's your Gun Vault date, will they? Where is my Atlus Shrunker Gun Vault date? August 29th. It's in Liam's mouth. Really soon. And you've got to buy that. Go do it. Go buy that.

It's the thing that was not on Kickstarter but feels like it was. A little bit. A surprise project that we know and know. The bonus that you got for Backing Mining of America is we also have a release window for Bloodborne

which is six months from last week. Or less. It's coming. I'm going to guess first week of February. No, March.

First week of February. Well, it's not going to be March, so it could be January then. Why could it be March? Because it's in March more than six months away. It's August now. Yeah. It has to be February or earlier

to be six months. I guess, but I wouldn't be surprised. Because the order is in February. They said the goddamn work six months. No, they did. You're absolutely right. So then I think you're right that they won't go up under the order. I think it'll be in January. They'll be developing it in six months.

No, they said it would come out. Maybe January is not insane. That'd be pretty good. How are you not going to be December? Oh my god, dude. Did you see the interview with Miyazaki where he describes the life bar?

Well, that's what I'm linking to. But what he thinks of the life bar as the life bar is not your character's health. The life bar is the player's hope against the despair of the world. In a fight

as you take damage you lose your hope. But if you hit the enemy back right away you can gain back some of your hope and when you run out of your will to fight you are left with only despair and you die.

That is the best thing I've ever heard. That's a combination of internal darkness and the metropolis meter from Superman Return. It doesn't represent your health. It represents the people of the city.

Shit! That's fucking epic! What a bullshit thing that's made up that sounds so good and you can't say is wrong. No, Miyazaki's crazy genius enough that I believe that's what he actually believes. Yes, right. Even though he is wrong.

This is the kind of thing where, you know how Iweta used to make games and he would start with an image. A picture in his mind. I want to make a game where he inspired me. I bet when this is the kind of thing that we look at later, it's like Miyazaki that idea was the first thing

to exist at Bloodborne. And then it was like, well how does that make sense? Well, what if it's blood? And now it's one of its blood instead of souls. What kind of environment would support that? I would love to see design elements wrapped around them.

So you need to at some point play Demon's Souls because Bloodborne, they were very clear that the team is going for the idea that anyone who's played Demon's Souls knows that they want the entire game to feel like the Tower of Latria from Demon's Souls. It's the best level in Souls games.

It's easily the best. It is amazing. And you hear that and you go, it's like what if Capcom came out Sorry. Namco came out and said we want every stage to be as cool as Bloodborne.

That's awesome. That's what I'm there. Oh, I'm so excited. You're going to turn into Werewolves in that game. That's my guess. The players turning beast-like and the PvP thing

is that people will come into your world like Journey because you used too many health items and have become beast-like. You've already turned into dragons so it's not too far to reach. We've stopped saying beast-souls but that name has been

named something. The word beast was in the trailer a lot and in the trailer you see what appears to be a player character transforming into something. I desperately want for the Japanese name to be Beast-erizer 5. The title

Bloodborne goes away and just says Altered Beast. The Japanese title was Demon's Souls and they didn't change it for us. There's no way it's going to be anything else. Not Demon's Souls Demon's Souls

How do we get here? How do we get from Demon's Souls to here? Because they had Folk's Souls Oh man I'm all goose-bumpy and shit. There's a bunch of

details you can read about the mechanics and whatnot. The main thing being that the life recovery regain meter. It's great health. If you attack you get a health back.

No shields. Instead guns to counter hit. Attack or attack successfully? You have to hit them and every hit in this game has this huge splash of blood. So it's like well you ate the blood and now you're dead. But if you're like panicking to get your life back

and then you don't hit anything then you just probably eat shit. What is the dodge though? That's cool. In Dark Souls and Demon's Souls you had a roll all the time. But now you still have that roll but only when you're not locked on.

Now you have a character action style dash when you're locked on. That's awesome and I'm like is there going to be people that are going to be a use for unlock and roll very quickly because that has a purpose? Yes and I can't deal with this. That's what that is.

Do you read any of the gameplay impressions? Not to even know. Miyazaki was demoing and he showed off an area in which the roll and the dash make a big difference and there's this mob of old women with pitchforks

that attack you and they're clearly like in their 90s. I thought you meant like during the interview a mob of old women showed up. So he said this would be a bad situation for the player. So what he does is he not dashes but rolls into them

and because they're old they're frail so they drop all of their gear because you're snapping all of their old woman bone with your roll. That's funny. Rolling as a mechanic. Oh that game's going to be oh man.

Transforming weapons. Mid combo and the transformation is a hit in itself. Oh man it looks so good. So check out the link for more details on that shit. Looks pretty cool. A new company a new incredible

a new company is being branded as Sierra. Yes. That's what I wanted. Someone mentioned this to me don't say Sierra's back. The other like a few days ago or something and said did you see that Sierra is

putting out something and I went what? Yeah. Like eight years. Yeah. They survived somehow and the answer is no. No they did not. Don't call it a comeback because it's not. It hasn't been here for years.

It's not a resurrection. It's just the dead parts of the whole thing and just slapped him on. It hasn't been rocking its peers. No. What is that being said? Developers working on King's Quest and I can't even remember

what the developers are. The developers that sound good for those. That's weird because Yamashii Wars is being made by another dead company. Bizarre. Not by the original guy that made Yamashii Wars. It's Sierra the sequel.

Yeah. Anyway the games sound good. There's a lot of stuff like that of that era of PC developers like Black Isle put out a statement like this and we're going to get back to making old school RPGs

except Black Isle is now obsidian. Like everyone that used to work at Black Isle works obsidian and this new Black Isle just somehow got the name and no one from there and then they made nothing. King's Quest is a name that I like to hear

coming back but then I also remember like I'm only like off but I dropped off on that series. Yeah because you could die all the time. That's fine. There's no way they're going to make this a direct sequel. No there's no way on earth. But it's just like you know I'm like the name is a lot to me. It's like when Broken Sword came back and they had that kickstarter

for our new Broken Sword and it's one of those like... And it succeeded and the game's out. Yeah I didn't know that it came out actually. It's good too. How many are there now? Five. Five wipes. This is the fifth one. That sword gets broken a lot.

I'm just still waiting for Beneath the Steel Sky too. This whole series I don't think coming back reminds me of like 2007 some company or interplay came back and then we said we're making a new Earthworm Gym, we're making a new all this stuff and then made nothing.

Yeah they popped up their website and showed we have MDK, we've got Earthworm Gym. Remember all these fuck and then... No one is king of lies like Atari. Infogrames? You mean infogrames I mean. I will never call them Atari.

I call them Atari you mean infogrames every time. I actually saw someone... Someone on my Tumblr said why do you keep talking about like I don't understand so the deal is that there was a company called Infogrames who is probably the worst

fucking name ever for a publisher. How are you supposed to remove it anyway? And then Atari died after Midway collapsed. So then Infogrames just bought Atari's name to just call himself Atari

and their reasoning and their press release is because no one knows who the fuck we are but people are like Atari's a thing. They know they remember they're Atari consoles. So they just named themselves Atari and then also died. Well you know like after that shit after that shit, the bit for piration

all that it's just like you guys lose one sequence after another in a couple of months where I remember I went from like not caring to like oh fuck you and they put out those horrible like Pong remakes. The only reason

that company survived under that banner was because of two things because the Dragon Ball games are blowing up a little bit like all the Budokais and a matrix enter the matrix despite critical lambastee and started like 7 different companies. Liam, I have breaking news.

Bro, break this news. It has been officially announced at Gamescom that the content patch for Sword Art Online, Hollow Fragment for Vita will be translated for North American and European audiences

and will be coming out I think September 24th. Hallelujah. I know, right? That is actually like 30 hours of content so it's a big patch. So I'm going to wait to buy the game until that patch comes out. I'm buying, buying, and then I'll be my little Kirito. I thought you were doing a big

dumb joke. You did this just at Gamescom. Apparently you smell. I mean, you just leave it there. Nope, it had to be Sword Art. No, no. It's actually worse. I'm excited for that game because it's apparently really good. To the people who are like, why?

That's why. Game's good. No, because you're like, why? And it's funny and I'm in on the joke. Are you in on the joke? The joke is Sword Art. I guess. Fuck infograms. Again. Good thing infograms isn't that controlled.

16 and a half years I'll explain this to you later. It's too filthy for the podcast. Good thing you're talking about it on the podcast. Speaking of things that pop up. Somebody look up the word 16 and a half years of Sword Art and you will not be disappointed. Are you? Well,

speaking of things that are 16 and a half years old approximately give or take a few, the guy that made Bubsy 3D Yeah, yeah. I'll believe that there was one guy. And he worked on Unfinished Swan. That's quite a joke.

I know! I know, right? Former Unfinished Swan dev makes Bubsy 3D Ben Esposito is making a new game called Donut County. I saw that, yeah. It's a little like nice art style trailer.

Is it out now? No, it's just announced. And it basically looks like, imagine catamari except you're not a catamari, you're a hole. And you have to make things fall into your bottomless abyss. That sounds awesome. Oh, this is move around the world swallowing everything.

This is just rife. Wooly hole the game, I guess. But I'm already getting Yoshi's Wooly World. I'm not greedy. You have too many games. But yeah, that's a fucking CV if I've ever read one. You went from Bubsy 3D

to this. Bubsy 3D, one of the worst pieces of shit to ever exist. That's a bit hyperbolic. Well, it's back before people knew how to camera. Yeah. But, I mean, at least it wasn't in the era of complete utter garbage

Atari games. I forget what game it was, and it's probably the worst game to ever be released due to this factor alone. Wait, stop, stop, stop. You know that Bubsy Bubsy 3D's intentionally like that. Yeah, whatever.

It's still bad. But that's the fucking shit. We're talking about PS1? No, we're talking about the website. No, I'm not talking about the website. We're talking about the indie game that was released. The hilarious... Okay, no.

Oh my god. Okay, no, no, no, no, no. No, they're the same name. All right, sorry, no. The recently released Bubsy 3D... Yeah, that's amazing. We know about this.

He made that the hilarious... I have no idea what that is. Yeah, well, no, it's a new game that looks cool. No, but the shock of going Bubsy 3D to unfinished one only is hilarious when it's the PS1 game

to... This Bubsy 3D... No, that makes sense. It's weird indie game to unfinished one. Makes perfect sense. Sure, but it's just a way different fucking... Rancid garbage from a decade ago.

So the story took a sound like Guy that made the worst one of the worst 3D games ever then immediately made unfinished one. So I thought the Bubsy 3D now means that new thing

because when I say Bionic Commando or Ninja Gaiden it's like the new thing that everyone saw and went, holy shit. I would think the originals for those as well. Did you know about this game? No, I have no idea.

I only know about the original. It's part of that new what the hell is this whole shit I'm even doing with my time. Like Candy Box. Right, exactly. It's right in that category. Giant Bomb. They had a whole category of these last year.

And then we got a bunch of shit as we were talking about fighting games earlier. There's some shit popping up from that. I love fighting games. We've got a confirmation of Kano. Kano is in it? He's even more movie Kano now. He's got more parts.

He's even more Australian because he's a criminal. I was gonna say Kano's a really weird character where Kano only became good because of the movie. He was a garbage character. It was not really interesting. Even Ed Boone knew that. We didn't even think this character could be interesting. And they're like,

he's a criminal. Makes so much sense to make him Australian. And now they're like playing that up. And then you get the three styles. You've got Cyborg style. There's Knife Combo style. Laser Eye style. Dundee style.

Which is Rappler. Dundee. No. Anyway. The important thing is that it took you a second. But yeah, he's there. And then there's some other things going on. Boone.

Boone, you know, he talked about that. And then someone on Twitter was like, Harry, I've been noticing that the top slot is all old school M.K. guys and the bottom slots are all new guys. And Boone's like, yeah, how about that? How about that?

And then he's like, shit. Boone is also saying that we're going to be seeing guest characters or not shying away from that. And they also de-confirmed Kratos during this little interview. They were like, no. But platform exclusive characters

are going to be a thing again. It's going to be Mr. Bloodborne this time. Mr. Bloodborne. I love that his name is Mr. Bloodborne. What would his name be? Mr. Bloodborne Son. The Bloodborne. I just think we haven't gotten

the canon name yet. The Bloodborne. Like the Dragonborn. Bloodborne has an E. That means it's the disease. But yeah, no. They're basically going to consider, I guess, you get fucking Fulgor.

Yeah, Max put out a video where he's the only character that makes sense is Fulgor, because he's a robot. Whatever. What about the Audi 500? What about the drink from Sunset Overdrive? Loco Cycle.

Yes, Loco Cycle from Loco Cycle. I'll beat that thing up. What about the sister from Limbo? What about Conker from Project Spark? Oh, I felt it coming and yet still. When I was watching that Kano trailer though, I was really looking at the style thing and I was like, wow, and the more I think about it,

this is actually a really cool system because it's exactly what that style bullshit should have been in the PS2 MKs. Oh yeah. And it's also like Slash and Bus. It's Slash and Bus, and it's a genius way to stretch out your models and your assets in the same way you stretch out your strings.

Well, all the Max is doing that with the shadow characters. It's genius. You almost double or triple your roster. The shadow characters are a bit more subtle. They flick. They're a totally different mechanic across the board. It's a system change, not a move change. Moveless change.

Whereas these are moveless changes. No, genius. With only like two or three special moves, you basically make a completely different character. It kind of makes me think of in CVS-1, they had all the characters and then you had EX versions of them unlockable. And like the SMK guys got

all their old moves back. I feel like they basically animated all their moves just to make it faithful and then Capcom decided these are the ones we're going to put in. Well, do you remember Guilty Gear has the EX characters also? Yes, some of them.

The X2 versions then refer to their X versions and they make completely different movesets. And it was awesome to unlock those characters. And you play them and they're like, wow, this version of Potemkin or Soul is way better than the standard one. Do you want Kai with the big

swooping overhead slash? I thought about the ground dash. Yeah, exactly. And well, let's talk about that then, shall we? Yeah. Daisuke Ishiwatari did an interview Mr. Guilty Gear. He was talking about the Guilty Gear X-Serds.

It's like you pronounce it Xard. Xard is the correct one. And you're like getting the fuck out of my face. I want to ask you something. Do you know how to speak? Don't tell me to talk how I'm already talking. The English language is buckling under the weight of that title.

He doesn't know how to speak because when he came time to do the story mode for SoulBadGuy he's like, no, I don't want to do it. I'll do the voices of him in-game yelling, but I don't want to do the story. Did he actually do it? Yeah. He's the voice of Soul in-game.

Yeah, but I didn't know he didn't do the story voices. It's probably really hard. Oh, yeah, definitely. Yeah, he's already got... When he like, designs the characters, writes the music, does Soul's voice acting,

writes the story, and designs the fighter. And still has the time to come up with the word Xard. Yeah, and I guess it comes from Xard. I guess he just... He just doesn't... This is like he saw that King of Fighter rebathed really bad.

And got jealous. I'm going to become a dumber word than you guys. I can do better than this. And still not under night. Inbothered. Late. Anyway. What's Daisuke saying?

Daisuke is saying a couple of things. For starters, he's saying they could have used any engine. They didn't really need to do Unreal. They're just like, yeah, it's there. It makes me... It makes it sound like the magic is just in the models. You know what I mean?

The magic is in... That only one man in the world has been able to make your brother 60 frames per second. He's like a random choice. Well, that's Unreal 3. Yeah, it's Unreal 4. It's Unreal 3, dude.

Oh, well, okay. Well, they made it. I can't believe this game is cross-platform. Yeah. Play your PS4 against your PS3 buddies online. That's bananas. Maybe we've been reacting for months now.

Like, how did he get it to be like this? And he's just busy like, eh? We could have done whatever. That makes it sound like it's really easy. Engines are like different types of paper. You can do any, just grab one. That's summer bed.

Yeah, but when I see a statement like that I don't hear good for you, Daisuke. I go, Capcom, why didn't you do this? Sure. Why doesn't Street Fighter look like this? What, SF4? Because 4 came out years ago and it looks great still.

Title type X2, man. That was the platform for all the fighting games. Every fighting game you played in the last five years that you liked was title type X2. That you liked. Keyword there. It was the place to go. What's a Thomas wave going to come back?

Oh, man. Oh, geez. Look, if those people... If those people... X, X, X... Shut up, shut up. Whatever came out and I like that and that's a Thomas wave. Do you like King of Fighters Neowave?

Yeah. Everyone likes Neowave. Do you like King of Fighters 11? Yeah, you do. That's what I say. Ha ha, Pat likes guilty gear. Ha ha, Willie likes Neowave. Nobody likes Neowave. You know,

and when you get pushed onto a platform not out of... Oh, look at that tech, but out of please stop pirating our games. Oh, God, we really need help. Then it's like, it's a rough time. It's not the same thing. You're not looking to explore what the engine can do.

Really high for new guilty gear. Absolutely. The other bit that he dropped, he's like, hey, so what's going on internally? And then he's like, okay, well, we have my team. The red team is working on guilty gear. We've got the BlazBlue guys doing that. And they're like, oh, what a... Isn't that great?

Isn't that great? And then they're like, what are the chances of seeing a crossover between the two? And he's like, well, that's not... That seems kind of pointless. He basically said not impossible, but they're busy and I'm busy, so when we're both not busy we'll be one that could be.

And that seems really pointless. Yes, but I will say this throughout its evolution, it's a different game there. Sure, but I'd rather see Ultimax versus Guilty Gear. Well, everyone probably would, but it's just... It's like, that's already...

What are we going to get our ArcSys JoJo game? But that universe has enough fucking guess... Do you want that or do you want Kuzunoha Raido in the game? I don't want to see an Arc System game versus an Arc System game. Yeah, exactly. Just like how I don't want to see a Capcom versus Capcom.

Are you crazy? That'd be the best thing ever. Capcom versus Capcom? Or they don't have to pay anyone and they just... No, no, he means like Street Fighter versus Rival Schools, he doesn't care. Yeah, yeah, no, like Capcom versus Capcom Universe. Sure.

I don't care, man. I agree with Matt. I agree with Matt. It's a cross, I want two different styles of games. Yeah, I don't want a full body mix or something. MK Street Fighter. There hasn't been enough of that.

There hasn't been enough of them that have come out. It's not what I'd boom. Yeah, but I'd boom. Yeah, what's that? Motherfuckers know about fighting games. You could do Street Fighter versus... You say that jokingly, but they admitted way back in the day that they kind of didn't know what they were doing, man.

I know. That was the joke I was making. Making sure. K.I. is making sure. Nothing can go over his head. The reactions are too fast. I know. K.I. is a better fit because why?

It makes more aesthetic sense with the MK Universe. Right? Honestly, K.I. is a better fit for both games. Yeah, you could do K.I. in Street Fighter easily because K.I. doesn't have that over-the-top gore. But I think...

K.I. would be better against Guilty Gear. Like, K.I., that dumb 90s metal shit, that works really well with any other fighting game. Yeah, it's kind of a... K.I. would be fine. I think it would be cool. But I don't want to see this song

drag the match up. Yeah, exactly. I know, but remember that this is... I understand that it's coming from a like, eh, you don't have any feelings for it. So that's why it's like, eh, to you, I know. As a crossover game, it would work.

If you had... You would be bored by half the cast. No, if you had Street Fighter versus Art of Fighting, you would also be really bored. It's like, look, here's Ryu. Here's the guy that's also Ryu. Here's Sakura.

You know what I mean? They're the same characters in both series. No, no, it's Kizuna Encounter versus Art of Fighting. That's what it feels like. Guilty Gear versus... Nobody knows what we're talking about anymore.

Except for us. There's a lot of similar characters made by the same developer. It's Spectral versus Generic. They have to be different. It's rather they make different stuff instead of both teams helping each other

make a crossover of their own stuff. How about the Arc System, Fist of the North Star game versus the Arc System, Sengoku Bizarre? I will take. I'll take that. Any day of the week. What are you gonna get?

I was gonna say my Arc's dream is Berserk Fighter. Berserk versus Game of Thrones. If you made a Metal Gear Fighter, every boss would have to be in it. Not every boss. Every unit in its entirety. Oh, come on, the pain?

The fury. Why start this? You motherfuckers talk so much shit about the pain. That guy is covered in bees. You can animate that in 2D, it's impossible. You can animate that super well in 2D. It looks great.

Just take QB's move set and throw it on the pain. Shut up. I would think they would go solid 1 and 2 and then expand from there. DLC to follow. Matt hates what I love, that the pain is covered in bees.

That's why I would think they would go solid 1 and 2 and then expand from there. Be in the Beast unit versus Black Chamber. Anyway. Black Chamber wouldn't be in there. Black Chamber would not be in there. They get one character at best. They didn't fuck the whole game.

Don't make it. Wow, look at this guy. That's where I stand today. I'll let Soul and Ragna be in a game, but fuck not having Black Chamber in this one. If I don't get trading cards in that game, fuck that game.

Then you'd have to have all the weirdos in the acid games. No, you wouldn't. No, I'm telling you. Teleco and Venus are cool, but they're not that cool. That's a conclusive slam against acid. I don't love that game.

You just have to give Snake an alternate palette that was that snake in that game. Should I just say palette? Yeah, palette, dude, palette. Like the thing at the back of your throat. No, not that thing, the other thing. Whatever, yeah. So, the last bit.

I hope. I hope. It's a singer, I got you. Let's just move on. I missed it. It was really good, apparently. I really hope that there's a new

electrifying announcement from Pokemon today. I'm going to just call it. It's Pikachu Detective. It's Pikachu Detective. I was like, wow, way to just tell me what it is. Why would they use that word? Did you see

Bioshock? It wasn't electrifying, it was shocking. There's many Pokemon that can shock. Did you guys see Bioshock's Twitter pimping out like big Bioshock announcement coming and it's the fucking Bioshock coming to iOS? Yeah, I know.

Stop doing this. Stop saying big hype announcements are coming because you're ruining your own announcement by disappointing everyone. It's the equivalent of the forum saying you own a moosh and then you click on it and you're like,

Nintendo's allowed to do it if they can still put out like the Pokemon Art Academy on 3DS and sell hundreds of thousands of copies. Yeah, Nintendo's in a weird pocket dimension. Whenever Nintendo's Nintendo, whenever the fucking Pokemon bomb gets dropped, I want it to be

without warning. Did you guys know about Pokemon? Did you guys see the mention of a Pokemon game coming to mobile Jack Nintendo's stock price is way up even though it's a Pokemon game? Even though it's not something Nintendo.

Investors saw, the stock market saw the word Pokemon next to the word mobile and Nintendo shares shot. Is it the Pokemon company that's doing that or is it the Pokemon company? Pokemon. Yeah, but it's like a guy in the Gap Post

said it quite well. It's like saying the word mobile increases your stock value. You don't have to actually do anything anymore. But Nintendo could do that. They could honestly say we're gearing up for a big mobile thing and people would buy their shares

and their stocks would be nothing. And do nothing. Just say it didn't really pan out. Yeah. But no, it makes sense because if this correlates to any purchases of merchandise for Nintendo I'm sorry. Can you repeat what you just said? Go talk to Crytek. What?

The burning dust that is Crytek? Go grab a shovel. Everything is as it is. Everything is okay. And everyone's getting emotional in this charred wreck. Pour some water on it and then start digging and then find your mobile. These charred corpses sure are

emotional. Man, no one seems to have paid these taxes. These corpses are poor. These poor skeletons can't even afford flesh. We were hearing reports of mysterious

houses filled with skeletons. You seem to be relative. Man, you just accidentally piggybacked onto what is the funniest joke in Dark Souls 2 where there are constant skeletons everywhere and people use the messaging just to write shit like, don't give up

skeleton. You'll make it. You'll make it skeleton. Yeah, I believe you. Hang in there baby. Yeah. Oh wait. Oh wait, you have muscles. You can't hang for shit. If you have muscles.

I like the beginning of Dark 2 where it was like a horse, was the punchline area. If you have muscles then one of the things you can do with them is use them to type up a letter and send it to us. Oh my god, that was good. Can we do that now? Skeletons

can't type letters. They don't have muscles they can't speak to. If a necromancer you can't even write emails. If a necromancer what does that mean? Necromancer? You're going

like the high sound of all your words. You've been doing fancy stuff. You've been talking to fancy people. Fancy people instead of just a dirtbag. Baggles all day. Baggles. This is like those times when I'm talking and I start backsliding into a hard

Canadian accent and calling things poor. That's the way you're going. I was only at some high food party and you had a baggle and talking to a necromancer about hollow. I knew we were just going to go with hollow. I was driving my Sevique

with my lovely chauvin. Anyway you can send those emails to superbestfriendcast at gmail.com That's super best friend cast

didn't work out at gmail.com We'll think about it until next week. If you can't understand this podcast rendition of that email address go to last week's podcast. If you can't understand that one just keep digging back.

If you send us a letter and you're not a skeleton then we can't pause. You know by saying this we're going to get a lot of skeleton based emails next week. Hello best friends. I am a skeleton. What do you advise?

I was offended by your depiction of skeletons. I am a skeleton and I don't have muscles. I am a skeleton in what? As an Australian skeleton I have to say it's really easy to get these cuffs off. It's hard to see them because there's no electricity.

I have like a full 20% of my brain working in the back just on new ways to link the word crime to Australia. Always working on that tech. Our first email comes this week from our new friend

Boku No Eruption who made an amazing sparkster video that you guys should check out. It was hilarious. The guy was really funny and it's a good sense of humor. It's a really good sense of humor. 9 minute

long reviews and little things about different games and his sparkster thing was really good especially since you and Pat have this long standing, I think, not argument but it's like confusion about the sparkster game. But the funny part is that even he didn't bother going into this mess game

he was just comparing Rocket Knight to sparkster. And this mess game is totally different. Who cares? And they both have mecha levels and all the cool shit we love. Different perspectives. It's the dumbest battle that we have.

But anyway. It's for the longest time you thought I was insane by using the subtitle of the game as the title of the game. Because you didn't think Rocket Knight Adventures existed. You thought I was just talking about the sparkster. I can't believe this is going on.

You're right. We can't. What's the letter saying? I'm writing a response to Matt the other day and I'm Boku No Eruption and I just want to thank you for shouting me out because I was not expecting it and I really appreciate it and it makes me want to make more videos. Do that though.

Yeah, Boku No Eruption. I saw a guy on NeoGaff say that he saw that video and I recognized that guy from the Two Best Friends thread who almost certainly got that video from your Twitter. My Twitter. So he just asked like I replied to him

and I went hey dude we love you you're cool. Let's make up. And he's like that's rad. How did you find me? I found him because he is associated I don't know I didn't look too far into it but he's associated somehow with Screenwave and I like Screenwave on Twitter

and they posted saying hey Boku No Eruption has a sparkster error or there's a new video It's a new name too. Yeah and I just happened to click on it I was just in like I don't know what your name is and I just clicked on it

and the video started and I was just like after you know what 30 seconds of watching these types of other reviewers now appears you know shit this stuff is good. There's no vomit pouring out of my mouth. Yeah that's a good way to start. So that's basically how.

Screenwave just posted on my Twitter and then I liked it so there you go. Yeah. Good stuff man. We got a letter coming out. We got one coming in from Jacob. He wants to know how's your letter Jacob. How's your tutu?

Jacob says subject too hard for me. What difficulty do you start games on generally? Normal. Normal. It depends on the game like for the last of us I started on hard because they were like this is the true experience. Oh yeah if the developers come out

and tell you that. So you play hello on the what's the fuck's the third difficulty? Not Legendary. Not Heroic. Played on Heroic. Like last of us if I wasn't playing the LP

one DMC Devil May Cry came out and to me was like Nephilim is the or whatever the difficulty was is for you old guys I was like I'll pick this one and that was the hard difficulty and I was like this is not for me. But otherwise

normal because like you never like that's the one they tuned. That's the one they actually work towards and so many games have bad hard modes? Yeah definitely. The only thing I'll say is like if ever there's a game where it's like a quick sequel and I love the first one

this applies mostly to older games I won't be scared to go on hard if they prove that they can do good difficulty levels. Yeah but that hasn't really happened these days too much. I could see like if it's a sequel to something that your fucking like your head's over heels for. If a game lets you change the difficulty

on the fly like whenever you whenever you want. If I haven't played a game in a long time when you go back to it and you're just like it's gonna be easy until I'm like alright now I know everything and if the game needs to be harder I'll switch it back.

Whenever I get any game that Sakura I worked on I always put the difficulty up to the max. Because he always tunes it so well. I'm not gonna start like on European extreme in a brand new manner. No you're not. I was thinking about European. Honestly the reason like the one that makes me think

is that you know a lot of these things have descriptors. So like the one I remember vividly for Tobiashock 1 is that you've never played shooters it was easy and you've played some shooters it was medium and at hard was you play a lot of shooters and it's like

Ohhhh Ohhhh What's cell phones going off? Someone's fucking cell phone went off Who? Matt did yours go off? No. Matt did yours go off? I don't figure that out. I know mine didn't go off. Zach

Wooooo, shame On you Zach But Zach has a great fucking ringtone on his phone But yeah The thing with Bioshock 1 though is that playing it on hard I don't think was the best way to play that game even if I did play a lot

of shooters like that game had a lot of stuff going on and normal felt like it was what it was supposed to be For me and for Willie and maybe even for me and Matt the most memorable was Deus Ex Human Revolutions Yeah, tell me a story Yeah, exactly

Give me a story The one where it's like if you just want the story, if you just want the game, if you want Deus Ex Yeah, give me Deus Ex And Mass Effect 3 had something similar to that or there was a baby mode where you could

there was no game planning I love, I fucking love Wolfenstein's difficulties Oh, because it's the old shit Don't hurt me daddy He's got a wolf past fire in his mouth On the PC version of Wolfenstein

when you go to quit out, it has that shit of like, oh you're a fucking wimp aren't you Why? Because you're not able to do that on a console because what are you going to boot to? We got one coming in from Billy who wants to know what your opinion is

Not our Billy, it's a different Billy Who wants to know what your opinion is about Resident Evil Rail Shooters The Rail Shooters? Matt and I played through them back in the day I had a lot of fun They're fine as Rail Shooters They're fine as Rail Shooters

As Darkseid Chronicles is really good but it still leaves a bad taste in my mouth because it should have been The original parts of Darkseid Chronicles are really bad It feels like the part in South America So it feels like

It feels like the final boss Because we played it and we had fun and then we played the Darkseid Chronicles when that came out and we had fun As time went on It seems like you guys got a bit sour on it Well it's because the Capcom test made a sour I enjoyed them and I'm still fine

Also the Lisa Trevor sections where Wesker fights Lisa Trevor are fucking amazing They're totally fine I like Umbrella Chronicles better than Darkseid because Darkseid had more like the shaky cam and it was harder to hit things I think you can turn it off, I can't remember

Really? That would change it But Darkseid let you see your character They're good because they replaced all those shitty PS2 versions Dead Aim and all that Those were atrocious I definitely prefer this to any of the spinoffs

I prefer Outbreak to these Even though Outbreak didn't really work and had crippling technical problems It was still super cool and fun You're never going to see these again You're going to get mercenaries instead

Not mercenaries I would bet Not mercenaries Matt would you lose your shit If Capcom announced next gen Receive an Outbreak File 3 with voice chat I wouldn't lose my shit

but they should do that It's a good idea But how do you fix the zombie thing Playable zombie system Wasn't the problem that when you're playing as a zombie No, it should be our voice chat The problem was there was no voice chat

They didn't want voice chat because they thought it wouldn't make it scary Someone could pick up an item and just hold it forever and make it impossible to win I remember at least talking about how there was the fact that when you do the playable zombie thing

Yeah, because it's just this little nice little easter egg that only happens in one out of 50 games That game had design problems from an online perspective and the load times for every door were 14 seconds Because no one owned a PS2 hard drive Because why?

If you want to play FF11 Exactly, that's the only reason We got one coming in It's the only good reason We got one coming in from Jennifer Hello Jennifer Girls are listening Jennifer asks

Join, spare, kill Okay, I like this Villains Okay Join up with, spare their life or kill them Rageo Griffith

Kill Griffith Kill Griffith If you don't say kill Griffith Kill the fuck out of Griffith Griffith is the worst Join the fuck out of Dio It's too easy Because here's the deal

The villains you picked are too far on the audience Here's the problem If you join Griffith or if you join Rageo you are killing yourself So therefore you join Dio Also you get stand powers

or something else You get stuck with Dio and you get cool shit Rageo is like awful but she could survive in a bullshit state Not only you get stuck with Dio

but there's the chance that Jotaro and Ko will save you And you join them It's such a good gamble I assume part of this is not joining Jotaro The idea that you would spare Griffith is laughable

But that's a good one Thanks Jennifer Griffith is the target of a 30 year revenge story For fuck's sake That's 3 old boys I know Cute old boys

And we've experienced it At least 15 years of it People have been born and died And Griffith still has not been taken down How many wars have started How many have ended Sam from Texas wants to know

Cooking Papa Liam Tell us a cooking story A cooking story Anything about you preparing food Cooking food Or ordering food A cooking story An anecdote

I know but I'm thinking What's interesting happens when I cooked Once I was cooking without a shirt And I got oil all over my chest Yeah And then I go over And did you like take the oil And go I'm a man now

I was standing there frying the stuff And every couple seconds I'd be like Ow! And I just kept going And I was like fuck this hurts so much But it hurts so good I wouldn't let it go because it would burn That's stupid

That's great My old roommate His dad was like a cook at a Chinese restaurant And we saw him shirtless outside Like fucking Sanding up Metal grinding on a fence And sparks just bathing over his body

With your dad And he's like dude he's a cook at a Chinese restaurant His forearms are numb He feels nothing Absolutely how you do it Nice We got one coming in From Michael

Who says basically It's a long-winded question but the gist of it is basically He's doing A review on like He's doing reviews and like he's like If you have a long one like a plinket review For example is it better to have it Released in shorter parts over time

Or just one big lump sum Depends how confident you are With your quality Your bag is 30 minutes Because if you had a half in the bag In which they reviewed six movies You'd be like I'm turning this bullshit off It's a heavy rain review that's 25 pages long

But it's a video It's a video he's planning to shoot I'd say like shoot it Shoot it and obviously shoot it in parts And have some people you trust As far as judges go Shit in your mouth Let's say it's an hour

If you cut it into two parts I say go for parts as you want Because when you release it The people who want to watch it in one chunk anyway Will just go to the next part right away Yeah remember plinkets Original reviews came out 9 to 11 parts

We just saw them when they were all done Continued in part two You clicked part two I think that was a video player like problem Or you couldn't put videos over a certain length Either way But it still ended up the same Like unless you're doing a commentary

Alongside the movie Or something critical Just fucking part it up Nothing to lose there And make sure the two parts split properly Of course Don't cut yourself in mid-sentence Dylan wants to know what's the most

Dylan son of a bitch What's the most emotional show you've watched Emotional show? Clanad Makes me cry like a little bitch Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh Frigate love this Does it matter

Frigate love this Doesn't matter what emotion Yeah Any emotion Emotional What's the most emotional show you've watched Gurren's way up there I get all like

On my chest The live action The DTO show The live action one The old one I didn't feel it as strong I didn't feel it as strong They didn't

They didn't push the romance Angle as strong in the air Not again with Fuyutsuki sensei Yeah And Eva The series And first movie Yeah, that's clear to

And that emotion was just Black, morose Death I'm gonna go ahead and just say the wire Emotion Really? It makes him laugh When I'm seeing what fucking life is like In those parts

Because to me, the whole experience I had With the wire was two things This is amazing And boy, that sucks In those exact tones A little bit more for me A little bit more for me Were you crying?

If we could throw a movie The question would be Were you crying? I've never seen it It's not that type of shit I didn't figure Breaking Bad was pretty emotional It was Yeah, it was that emotional

I'd say Berserk And Elfenleid Well, I was trying to think of Elfenleid Right? Yeah, I got really Did you watch all of it? Why? Just to see how

Every episode you're like Why did I tap out? I got really depressed Can I get more depressed If I watch the next one? There's nothing waiting for you at the end And I guess Game of Thrones elicits A lot of emotions

Not particularly deep ones But like, you know, it's amazing And shows and movies Single movies get me more than shows And you know what? What it wants to, fucking Futurama Oh, Futurama It's like Cowboy Bebop

It's like what it wants to Even during Guardians of the Galaxy When something happens To Rocket Raccoon Towards the end, I was like, oh no Okay, yeah, I got one I got the most emotional thing I've ever watched It was the Merrimos section

Of the Japanese film All about my dog, Merrimo That's maybe 15 minutes long Had me crying like a baby Somebody's just, look at this Japanese Indie thing about a dog And it's like, ah It's the Japanese Merlin me

I just couldn't do it I'm getting a know about it right now There's a movie called The Wolf Children I mean, you can't rid of it Oh my god, when you see what happens To a certain character Okay, that's why I didn't say If we're talking movies, then it's like

I gave you a show I just want to shout outs to that movie Because, fuck Also, fuck you Grave of the Fireflies Well, yeah Grave of the Fireflies, absolutely But no, just jaw dropped from minute one Anyway

And the most emotional I've ever felt reading something would be Berserk And that feeling was Fuck you You, Griffith Uh, we got one from Fuck that guy Vesprimi

Hey, Vesprimi Uh, wants to know What makes you instantly happy? Dogs, Limp Biscuit Matt Music, my music A fluffy puppy Like, whatever's bullshit

I just put my headphones on and I saw a pug walking over here What made my day? Uh, Pedro from Brazil Wants to know what your favorite stances In fighting games are Okay, well, Rios Yeah, Open Palm

Open Giant, KOF 98 KOF 98 Rio with the Giant Open Stance Also, Dimon As well Yeah, big open hands Big open hands Come get me

That's a really cool thing Besides that, I think, uh, not 12 12, from Third Strike comes to mind Uh-huh, Eleanor Oh, is that a stance? Yeah, it's beautiful It's beautiful and Steve Fox's little, uh, shuffle

He shuffles left to right with his heels I don't give a special little shout out Not the best, but still worth mentioning Zach from Dead or Alive Yeah, sure He goes like three feet up and down He's back and forth right now I've got one and I'm desperately looking it up

Because I cannot remember what it's called I know one, uh, Banes from Wappenmord When he's, like, wrapping his fingers around Oh, wrapping around the hammer Yeah, that's a fun one There's some good stuff out there Oh, the name's just um I'll answer this one in a second

He's looking up the Neckostance Uh, uh, uh I really like Kim Jaehoon as well His little bounce Of confidence Is really nice Uh, we're gonna move on It is Nanto Saikin from

Fist of the North Star Oh, okay, okay, okay Easily. Which one's that? That's the one where you cut raindrops He's got the hands, fuckin' yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah That's a good one Oh, Nanto Saikin

Um, special shout out To the stance The stance users Of your hands are just in your pockets And you're just standing there Nothing, as your stand does everything But use your back and body To wrap around your stand

As it wraps around Uh, Ronnie says Hey guys, I'm about to graduate And I'll have my marketing degree soon I'm about to become Paul Merkiding Put him on the list Put him on the list If you have any suggestions

Suggestions Don't do what Paul Merkiding does Oh, for marketing? People don't, if you're gonna lie You have to lie really well because people hate being tricked Or, like, at the very least Like When you have to bullshit your bosses

And bullshit us Like, don't Don't massage it In such a way where it's obvious That you're fuckin' just running the company line Yeah, right Well, this might not be marketing Like, he doesn't say

What he's going into, does he? He's trying to get into games Trying to get into games If you announce that a game is coming out exclusively From the get-go to a console Don't announce the other versions Before the first version comes out I.e. Resident Evil 4

The worst ever Like, literally you're doing A huge disservice to everyone The upper says he's gonna cut his head off If it comes out on any other platform Wait until that game comes out And then port it Or at least announce the port

Then it's fine for him to cut his head off Don't blame the fans for not making the game Yeah, don't blame the fans For not making the game for you Um, uh It's a carpentry slash Handyman rule That applies to damn near everything

And it's measure twice cut cuts Yeah, yeah, good Think about what you're gonna say Now think about it again And even if you have time Give it a third pass Also, you know what's popular in marketing? Sex

Just throw as close To pornography As you can manage Well, if you can do actual pornography in there Well, that's as close To pornography as you can manage Is pornography No porn doesn't need to advertise

You look at it and you're like, I like this Yeah, please sort of sign Make the game a bit more scandalous Find out what will get you in trouble But then back it off a little bit Just a little bit Make it so the Kotaku writes about it That the Japanese place is right there

That's pretty good That's pretty good Chad wants to know if you guys think console designs Or console redesigns Are a waste of money I don't think they're a waste of money Usually they come with some extra bonus In the case of like PS2s

They got smaller and smaller And eventually got a really good Top flip trade Sorry, if what he means is buying each console redesign I think it's a waste of money As far as consoles go Yeah, handhelds always Have a benefit

It's a better deal For handheld It's a waste of money for both That being said Unless there's a defining feature that changes That being said Like when the Slim PS4 comes out I'm gonna be like

If there's a white one, I'm gonna be like And even if there isn't a white one I'll just be like Like I already, I'm not gonna get The Sunset Overdrive Xbox Do I want it? Yes, of course I'm not gonna get it either But I'm gonna look at it

I'm gonna buy the controller To get the Sunset Overdrive Xbox Just Because it's a white console If it was black And then default play it And if the default console Scale whatever

If the default console on release Was white, it would have been the opposite That's why we all have black we use It's fucked up So it's no longer white we use Alex says if you could have any Video game, food or drink Materialize in front of you right now

What would it be? The pickles Well, wall chicken The meat from Final Fight We're pretty close on this one Oh man, that's really good Are the biscuits? No No, the center sandwich You can make that

No, but seriously Any dish From any vanilla Oh shit Nobody else can take that It took a whole genre of food It's okay These food genres

They're all great, it's hard to pick one Really good DJ just wants to know if you think there's any situations Where throwing minions into the boss battle Can work I think it can work I can't think of a working one, but I think it can work Say that again, throwing minions

Minions, I think it can work If the premise of the boss battle is that it's Some weak character who has minions And his or her shtick is minions Like if Tronbon were to just stand On a pedestal and throw Bots at you Well, you know how a lot of bosses use minions

And you kill minions and you get some sort of resource That allows you to attack the boss That happens every once in a while Like remember there's a shovel knight There's a boss But then there's like the Bionic Commando A classic boss that is just minions What's bad is when the boss just disappears

And you just have to fight minions to drag the boss That's when it's bad No, I think it can't I think anything can be designed well If it fits into the lore And that being said Yeah But it's almost always

Better served by a boss that just doubles And An identical version of that boss At the same time So Dark Souls 2 is a good example And there are a bunch of bosses that put little piddly enemies in And they're really frustrating fights They're bullshit

But there's one boss that just doubles itself And you get two And that one's much better Than all the little minion ones Yeah And games that focus on your boss Being a one on one fight Those are the ones that suffer the most

You get ripped right out of it Like Ninja Gaiden was always outrageous to me Because it's like I can't see the goddamn enemies That are fighting me But that being said The frog What's the frog's name in DMC4 You asked this before

You asked this the other day as well But with the two little things Yeah, but that's separate You don't fight them simultaneously And they're part of him And that whole design works That's adding minions It totally works

But in beat em ups I'm hard pressed to think of it ever working Are you even like the three sisters No, no, no, two multiple Is amazing When it's enemies with minions It's gotta be like Shredder Like where the enemies are

Like in Streets of Rage What's that fucking one By SNK that came out in 2000 With the Samurai And the Ninjas Sengoku bosses are fucking not great Because you have minions Sengoku bosses are terrible

All of that game where the bosses are terrible I think the only genre that could do this Well, consistently Is MMOs Because Dealing with ads with your Proper crowd control is a huge part of their gameplay The shittiest on the other hand

Is shooters easily Fight this shooter boss And also there's enemies just staring at you I vividly remember Red Faction 2 You fight a sniper In a graveyard and you're fighting The enemies while she's sniping at you It sucks, it's terrible

Like imagine you had to fight The end with soldiers Aware of where you were All the time Like they were all alert for the whole battle Like that doesn't just ruin it That makes it the worst fight in the game Exactly, exactly

From the best Exceptions only serve to prove the rule Yeah, exactly In this thing But the designer would have to run all around You really nailed it This is a bad idea though Just like how Underwater Escort missions

Timed Underwater Escort missions And GS2 nailed it We were making that joke for years Before we realized that MGS2 did that Whole sale And it worked Yep, thanks for your letters guys Those were actually pretty fun

You sounded like it I enjoyed those ones, we had a good week What is happening On the watch What are we putting on the watch? I'm really looking forward to Counter Spy Which comes out Tomorrow, or today for you people of the future

Listen to that Which looks fucking awesome, it's like a 2D 1960s Art Kind of cartoony thing where you play as a spy Stopping the Russians from blowing up the moon Sky captain ever again All those dirtbag Russians

Except for when there are friends Against the Nazis And the other one is Sword Art Online Hollow Fragment Which is the JRPG Is that coming out this week? It comes out tomorrow

It is supposed to be really good And the reviews are coming out here And it's like 8's, 8's, 8's, games are really good Games really long So I'm really looking forward to that 30 hour content patch to the game Exactly I'm going to throw up Strike Suit Zero

Which is free on Games for Gold right now So you're playing that this week I guess? It's not quite Zoe, but I think we're going to see it Well that thing is free on everything That was on free on PS Plus too It all wasn't Pretty sure it wasn't

Maybe I'm crazy because I bought it on launch Yeah, no I'm not expecting Zoe But I'm expecting my high speed robot action fix You get speed robot action Not high speed You get speed robot action I saw that on 360

Dishonored was completely free For Games on Gold and I never actually played Dishonored That's a good game if you don't try and play it like I played it Which is what? Stealth it and reload the game I was wondering if you're like Should you play it and pretend it's Thief?

It's way better than Thief But yeah, it's like don't play it like If you get spotted, fight your way out Oh you mean pretend it's Thief Pretend this is Thief 4 It's different So you get a different experience Did you play this on it?

It's not It's like Thief But it's not just like Thief You know what I mean? It's like if I said Go play Strike 2-0 and pretend it's Zoe 3 It's like Zoe

It's not like Zoe That being said, it's really good I'm going to try to put some answers to that Because after beating Wolfenstein Having a good single player campaign Dishonored was supposed to have a good one First person fix There's some dumb story stuff going on

I stopped playing that game For the stupidest reason possible There's a bug that happened In the second mission A friendly NPC would see you And it would count against your ghost ratings And I saw that someone had seen me And beat the level and it's over saved

My game was like I'm never playing this again Because I wanted to beat the game No kills, ghosts Which is the best way to beat every cell Now here's the thing You say that is the worst way to play Dishonored That is the best way to play Mirror's Edge Mirror's Edge

Mirror's Edge Mirror's Edge If you fail you just die The Dishonored comparison is a lot more like saying I'm playing through MGS1 for the first time Without killing it Or Dance X You're gonna fuck up

Which is why you would not have fun What's on my watch? What's on your watch? I wanna see if Kimura is gonna beat Mashiba He just might Or not, Mashiba's pretty tough Mashiba's pretty tough I'll keep going on Epo

I'm gonna be bouncing back and forth between Wolfenstein And my What was the last level you did? You remember in Wolfenstein? I just got into the prison So remember what Machine games is made out of They're made from former Star Breeze guys

Okay, alright Alright So Wolfenstein I'll say you're a little more than halfway through I'm gonna check out Sword Art online It'll be a good time You should probably stop It takes place during the best part

Listen to you talk about Naruto for years when there was no podcast Did you? Back when you were watching it? And you know more? I don't I am proud to say I watched two episodes in my life Okay

I should have watched 16 No, I watched the fight with Zabuza Oh, you skipped to it? No, I was literally at a friend's place We were watching YTV And the fight with Zabuza was on And I was like this is alright And I never looked at it

I never owned a goddamn sand headband Doesn't matter You were right in there You were right in there and you're pretending you weren't Fuck you Fuck you I'd say he was on the cusp of being in there Getting a headband was in there

Pat was right in He was teetering So in that when I caught up I just moved on to bleach Because I needed something to fill the void And that's why the person That stands here before you today Is dead

All dead up in here You jumped onto One Piece too so you did all of them No, One Piece is good What I mean is you did The shonen battle I took a break from One Piece Because I watched 260 something episodes And maybe a month

Now it's time to start Hunter X Hunter Hold on I'll go back to One Piece And I will catch up The problem is I don't know when you're supposed to watch Movies It's hard to tell Aren't they all in that strange area

Of their canon But they're made in such a way That they're not necessary They're creator written fan fiction Because that's the same with the recent game That came out Where it's canon But you could just skip it and you'd be fine

That's also the hardest part That's the hardest part of Kamen Rider as well When did this movie come out? You don't know what episode Does this take place in between Please tell me now Anyone who's looking for that Vita game The Sword Art games keeps going

After episode 14 And assumes that the ending didn't happen Thankfully It explains itself and it's just a new thing Surely it's as easy as just checking the wiki though Yes, yes, but that's hard sometimes A little hard When the wiki is all written in like Greek

You can never get anywhere I'm looking at this Greek One Piece wiki Where did the movies go? I can't tell It's all Greek to me Greek's not that hard actually I took a class It's not that difficult Excuse me

You took a class Wow, yeah? And blue and white stuff You took a class In Greek language Yeah How come you have that stupid shirt That has the Union Jack on it

That says Greece Because I took a class But I also have a sense of humor I don't understand these spells It's the stupidest podcast you've ever done It's not It's one of the more intelligent ones It does get worse

Yeah, what do we We started this off What's happening on the channel? What's happening on the website What's happening on the website channel Dark Souls 2 Dark Souls is going Shunglin Monks is going

How's your racist accent? Not good We're improving Which is bad We're gonna be wearing hats next time But I don't think it'll help We'll keep up the Mortal Kombat secrets

Secrets I talked about this like a month ago Before Counter-Spy was out But I'm gonna be streaming Counter-Spy From my Twitch channel You did talk about that You can find on the website Under the events tab

Events rising super stream Exactly And I'm gonna be streaming Counter-Spy On Thursday from This time when either the game is over Or it's midnight Friday we're obviously gonna have Fist of Cuffs

It's gonna be a really good one I hear there's gonna be fighting There will be fighting Oh shit, some type of Fist of Cuffing Yeah, good times So that's gonna be that And with that said, I guess We ran late but we can still do

Some Hayzack persona Spoiler Casts So from here on out It's just all persona spoilers And this is gonna be 4-3 And 4, sorry for those who wanted me to split it up But a lot of this Stuff is comparing the two

So it would be weird To isolate them, sorry Cool, bye Matt Alright, I'm going too You're going too? Just me and Willie Talking about persona I don't have much to say, games great Now it tells the best wife

You come back here Resay is clearly the best Let's just start here Let's Maybe if you're the kind of guy Who plays on easy You might like going with Resay Oh, god damn

Shot spider Airpods are gone Hey, what's happening? I don't know, I want a Mickey Mouse voice I don't know, but we're gonna be talking about the personers So first of all I know that when this happens to me You will take advantage

And with good reason But I told you so Yeah, I've already actually Done this more than a couple of times On, again, TV recommendations TV recommendations is your thing Shut your jinger ass away Told you so, you beat P4

Yep, P4G Matt, do you care if you can hear this? No, he's over there doing his thing Liam doesn't care So, final warning Big ass spoilers for P3, Persona 3 And P4 incoming In 5, 4, 3, 2, 1

It was the gas station attendant How nuts is that? Like, even after Reading that Adachi's the killer You're like, okay And then I'm like, no, no, no, no Don't worry about it I know, and then furthermore

People that were really trying to twist a knife Are saying, Adachi's the killer And Nanako dies It's not even a real spoiler Because it's a maybe It's technically non-existent And it's sent to you in the context Of this is the big reveal

When it's not, it's part of the reveal But the problem is that even if they're like Haha, isn't it funny that I sent them a fake spoiler You're still an asshole For ruining the feelings You have about that part in the game So those people As if they care about feelings

That being said Adachi does start acting really suspicious By the second half of the game And I would have suspected him anyway Totally, totally, totally You start acting suspicious And then they start throwing red herrings at you And you're like, but no, I don't care

Something's not... I went through it and that game has more final bosses Than it has regular bosses Which brings me to one of my first theories Which is The same thing with your revengeant situation The same thing with your platinum, your bayonetas And your wonderful one-on-ones is that

Really good games do not Know how to stop You hit the end game You're like, it's over and you expect it to fade out to black And you get your credits But no, motherfucker It fades to white and you wake up the next day Yeah, like they really

Do not stop, they don't ease up They fucking keep going For p3 and p4, it's really confusing The game there is left And I remember telling people that As they're going through it, I told you this once If you still have control of your character The game is not fucking over

Exactly, exactly If you still can go to the velvet room And move around and infuse your personas Then it's not over yet Absolutely not, no matter how much the text box is Like, it's finally over Like, fuck off Yeah, so that's some cool stuff

I guess We're going to get into the ZO9 round After this Which is, you know, the shoot-em-off questions Blah-blah-blah-blah-blah No, it just really It definitely stands out as like This is a game that

I can absolutely see the mechanics Of how this got to be as big as it did Because it really Fulfills You feel really good inside You have like It's really easy to form this really powerful Emotional connection

And when you finish it, you just have this Like, wash and just like Yeah, I did it A big problem in games is that This character was two-dimensional, had no writing Or was just bullshit Whereas here, the character development Is a game mechanic

That you need to use And my favorite thing, we talked about it On the street a couple of times But never on the podcast or something like that Is that you end up having this interesting Narrative and it's Do you want to get close to Kanji because you think Kanji is rad

Or because you Like Emperor Persona And you really want that And it's like in P3 because Minato being has He won't take his fucking hands out of his pockets It was really easy to believe that he was actually Just a piece of shit

And he was like faking all of it Especially with stuff like Yukari Where you actively hate Yukari And you're like fine, I'll listen to your fucking daddy shit Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Because you're a good fighter And you know what though, man? Like when you look at the way things are framed

In Abba Like when fucking you shows up The way at least watching it in the show How he's a silent weirdo Yeah, he's the fucking suspect To be the killer That's why your uncle's giving you so much shit The whole game

You show up, all of a sudden people start getting murdered all over the place You're out with your friends at late hours Your friends with these kidnapped people What the fuck is going on? As soon as you show up, yeah, exactly And it's that Plus you can just see how like Someone who had a rough

High school Childhood, you know what I mean? Which happens to be a lot of JRPG players Quite a few Myself included And you go like oh, this is what You get the little piece of like Is this what high school felt for people that

Enjoyed high school? You're living vicariously And then it's like You're the coolest, smartest Everyone loves you It's ultimate fantasy fulfillment You're number one on the list All the girls like you

They turn out everyone wants your fucking dick With the fem-C and P3 You're the prettiest, smartest girl in school And that's the one part of the game Where I'm like it feels so To the wish fulfillment That I'm like I would like you to be A bit more flawed

You know But Japanese Minato had flaws Used this charismatic weirdo What would you say the flaws were? Minato's tone is so All you're getting this Is from the choosable answers

And the posture And Minato's posture Says like everything about that character As a person Standoffish And that You was confident but still Quiet

Weirdo Loves fishing Does he? In the anime they show The one day he goes fishing He has the rod and the vest It says explosion fishing on it It's really great

So Right off the bat Laying it down hard core The best character in the entire Modern series Modern series 3 and 4 Everything together That's good

His S-Link is probably the best Of everyone's S-Link Because it's the most like I felt like it was the best written Everything about him Every moment he has on camera Is amazing And talking shit to Adachi

Him being this like really drunk Pathetic father That can't hang around for his kid It's like you have really good reasons Like your daughter's fucking Sick like take care of it I gotta go to work He's garbage

Before you do his S-Link And then at the same time My fucking wife died And I try to catch the killer Like I can do his work And I go home to this fucking empty house With this kid that I think hates me That reminds me of my dead wife

What do you mean you want to play the piano I'm gonna go cry and drink You know, yeah He's great He's such a good character It's the type of thing that can only Be as good as it is As a supporting character

As part of the main cast Pliskin, Raiden and 4 It's the coolest moment It's very subdued And they don't really examine it a lot And they make an offhand reference to it At the very end of the game But you're solving a magic mystery

That uses full magic For parts of his mystery And Dojima keeps up with you And is one half step Behind your crew In solving the mystery Despite no knowledge of magic His detective skills

Fucking OP Suspicious I should go over these statements Amazing That being said, even though he doesn't believe you Or your friends at the end of the game He still just ignores Every time you guys reference the other worlds

Like, literally, Teddy's sitting there Like, I think I'm gonna go back to the other world And he's just on the couch like, whatever Fucking fans These kids are weird No, man Christmas of Valentine's with Okay, well, here's the problem

On Christmas Oh, you motherfucker I was saving the world Because I waited till the 24th Specifically to go after You know what happens on Christmas? Yes, because I went back and I checked it out Yeah, you did check it out

Fucking hell, yeah, I'm not gonna miss that You stayed there for a long time No We're not gonna get into the lightning round yet The Zeodine round Oh, that's part of the Zeo round Yeah, that's part of the Zeo round One thing I gotta say, both games

The fucking god The music is obviously amazing So I went back and looked Because I had this really intense Feeling about two or three years ago Of like, where did this guy come from? Like, why haven't He's been working for Atlas

Forever, like he's made like 12 games How come all of a sudden Just the sound And it's like, I think P3 was the first game That he got to be the music guy As the primary and composer But yeah, he came out of nowhere And he is like all the way up there

With Umatsu And Yasuna And the guy just canceled me What's... All the way at the top There are now over 30 Something albums They're all amazing

And the fucking... What's the rapper's name again? Lotus Juice Lotus Juice is great I can give or take Lotus Juice But also, not just tracks On their own But tracks as a game soundtrack

So the end of these Games are both bolstered By outstanding choices In music that complement Your final Moments Of me going in Before you even played before

I'm like, there is Like, how are you gonna beat Nix? The battle for everyone's souls One of the most godlike tracks Because here's the deal You guys should know, the way that fucking plays out Is the intro comes in

Anyone listening to this fucking knows The way that song kicks in is like You hear it and you're like this is a cool guitar riff I don't know what it is And the intro lasts just long enough That you can get through the whole Like spiel with Nix Just standing

Aggurately Right? Whatever, and you go through the whole thing Of just not touching you And then he goes, the arcana is the mean through What's Olive revealed and then the fucking Theme kicks in and you're like The song I've been hearing

But in the best possible rendition The battle for everyone's souls And burnt mic dread Final battle version It doesn't really seem to have an official name But the rap version of burnt mic dread Like they both, separately If you were given them with no context

You'd be like, this sounds like a final boss Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah But then both of them are played back to back And they both fit their own context Ideally And so when I was playing P4 and going through it And I got to Amino Segiri And I was like

P4 that Persona 4 Has a primary theme That is remixed about a dozen times Primarily through boss fights Through the music after boss fights In some tertiary moments Like goofy moments, but Persona 4 Has a primary theme and as you're

Going through boss fights you're like This is the boss theme, this boss theme Is awesome, it's just a rock track Just kicks in, then you get to the crazy Fool, who has a distorted Like messed up version Of that, then you have Mino Segiri, which is

This day-ific Like this day-ific Like piano version And it just goes and goes and goes And just the whole thing With like, I got to that point And I was like, this is really cool, but That didn't, there's no way

That's not yet, and I didn't know obviously And I told you there's no way And then when you get there, it's like Okay, the build up to fucking fighting Is an army, which I should have guessed Based on having is an army The game gives you a lecture on who the final boss Is going to be

It tells you, man, when I have that And the first form, because it's not even just Because the second form is godlike, it's an amazing remix It's beautiful, but the first one The first form is better Is what my heart like fucking exploits It's because the main boss theme Is a rock track, and this is

A remix of that, but it's Rocking way harder The theme that's kicking in is the theme That plays over the level up screen Your victory music So you're like, this is the song Every time I hear this, it means I won And you won, not because

You're fighting, but because you discovered The truth And then you guys give that spiel And then you're fighting with your friends And then the victory theme is playing as you're fighting The boss, it's like, you've already won And then in your giant orchestral remix It is slow down

To a snail's pace And it is the end But then Six and a half, seven and a half minutes in It just goes Into the core Theme by itself Of Reach Out to the Truth

Because that's what you are doing Which is why that song Like you said, as you're playing Through the original game, they remixed it In P4G, you don't hear it as often If you only hear it when you hit land Reach out to the truth that used to be The primary battle theme

Now time to make history is the primary battle theme And Reach Out to the Truth is the sneak attack And you still hear it super often Because you're sneak attacking just about everything And like you said, you go through it Being like, yeah, this is a good song And then you get tired of it And then it starts coming back

This is what I'm doing This is what I'm trying to accomplish Absolutely writing on that Let's get right into it then Let's see it in 9 rounds Alright, BAM! P3 Fests Or Portable vs P4G Portable has the female main character

Which is fantastic But P4G takes it There's just so much more game There's just so much more game P3 Does not use the characters In scenes very well So you don't actually lose that much

Going to the visual novel style And the female character is way better And almost on a mechanic level I can never imagine going back to Not controlling your fucking party Not controlling my full party And not having the search function P4G is unequivocally like the winner

But if you haven't played either Well, you're not listening to this So fuck it And I think I was saying The best characters in P3 Are better than the best characters in P4 But the worst characters in P3 Are worse than the worst characters in P4

Are worse than the worst characters in P4 Yeah Yukari I hate you I hate you so much I don't care about your dad She's the personification of daddy issues For the more game

You're forcing me to hang out with her And love her and have her on my team To heal everybody Joker's cool though Men Akihiko Browskay It's no

It's junk pay A lot of these are put in by Frank Thanks for the question But In that situation He's the cool guy that you look up to This brings me to a thing Where it's like why is broskay

The big thing that comes up so often When to me I'm like kanji is Fucking way better Because that's not fair He's my dude I don't know why everyone's asking about broskay Because he's a bro He's literally your bro

But I really want to hang out with kanji No you're right Browskay is not to be confused with people like broskay More than kanji Kanji is No doubt The best party member With possibly a close second mean teddy

Because those guys are awesome Well teddy's useful Yeah he's useful You know You don't have to choose to hang out with him But no For me In that situation as far as playable cast members go

Akihiko's my dude He's better in a fight I like everything about his character I like the way he fights His story you don't get to hang out with him Which is bullshit Play the family mc Where you can go make out with Akihiko

That's a weird one It's a little weird isn't it Remember when you said You feel like it's tailored a little too much To the wish fulfillment Well they went both ways No matter what your tastes are We got someone for you

How about you and me He was My favorite s-link In p3 by the way Hang out with the old monk And then you know what I like hanging out with old people I enjoy that little charming thing

Just listening to their old timey stories Like even the bookstore couple They were alright Not as cool as Matase Have you ever read the story of the fool Which is the story of the arcana Well they tell you it You should go and look

The Japanese have a very specific interpretation Whereas western interpretations of the arcana can be broader Because you look at certain s-links And you're like these are really similar So both Hyrofen s-links have to do with family members Dying in car crashes They're the daughter

The wife or daughter A lot of them are like Incredibly similar So It gives you little hints of Once we see what p5's Setting is You'll be able to ballpark it

The hilariousness of that fucking Us talking the other day All the different s-links I got this person to 10 I got that person to 10 I got my social club up to 10 too But her father died That's rough

Why the fuck do you have to be in the room When her father's dying How intrusive are you You're really good friends You're right there You don't even give her a moment to breathe In that moment I kind of realized there's a whole other character

Who is that That little troll creature I don't even know what her name is She's the s-link they picked From the anime What? Because that's like the fucking They probably picked her because they were like

It's the gourmet king That cult loving bastard It was hilarious because Liam was like No wait that's the drama girl It's like oh fuck nobody knows Nobody knows anything about this girl Oh man

Do you hang out with Daisuke or Ko? I picked Ko Daisuke is literally he has trouble with girls I believe it It's not as interesting as Ko's I like Ko because I wanted to do slime dunk adventures That's what I wanted to do I only found

IAVHara Fuck her Yeah IAVHara stalking you on the street What's her name? Kanishi I only met him on the last Kanishi's brother Saki's brother

I only met him on the last month Fuck I wish I got this earlier He's a downer I know but he's a real downer But you get the opportunity to go Fuck you stupid Japanese trope people Walking by going How dare you be happy

I like that you get to stand up And chastise them My sister's been dead for a year Am I allowed to Have fun with a friend I like that I think The fucking

Adachi alternate ending Is brutal It's really bad Specifically when you choose To fall in With him You get to see what a prick that guy is Does Adachi's number do anything on New Game Plus?

No Those items Allow you to fuse The final persona of that class Let's not forget The literal What should we call it The literal story

Of coming of age Where Izanagi Has a tie on He goes from being A student ban show outfit To a business man I am a man now That's a really nice persona design update

I really appreciate that In the final thing you kill the boss With myriad truths The different truths that you found Throughout your journey That can only be reached if you have multiple Maxed out S-Lanks And they reach until infinity

That's a great name for an attack With that being said What's next? Would you prefer the post-battle mini-card game From 3 or 4? They're both fine I don't like the post-battle Mini-card game from original 4

What was it there? It was just persona cards Nothing else It sucked I really like the ability to go Experience Experience I thought

Because P3 I didn't mind But then on hour 70 I got really tired when I'm at 3 in the morning And I'm like I don't want to follow this My eyes are tired right now Don't make me do a reaction thing In a game that's not about reactions I do miss the ability to switch up weapons though

Because I was a boxer Throughout the whole thing I completely forgot that was a feature The reason that existed Is because in P3 There were three different physical attack types Which was slash, pierce and blunt And in P4 there's only physical

Exactly they did simplify it So you needed to be able to change your weapon I guess What's the most bullshit social link? Bullshit social link? I don't like Shu I think the tower from P4 is awful Oh the tutoring

I think he's really awful Probably the most boring is temperance From P4 I'm so boring One level Big ups to the devil In both games The devil is great

And Tanaka coming over the airways To you And thankfully I also love the devil personas I hate those personas But I love hanging out with the devil So what am I going to do? Man there's some good shit in there

I guess Coolest looking for some Coolest looking I really like Trumpeter A lot of the ones that I adore Are the fiends from the Shin Megami Tensei series Once I got Satan I'm like I'm done

I got Satan and I'm like Well that's Satan from SMT2 Nothing, I have no more fusions for me Yeah SMT Aside from the unique ones Takimizuguchi is one that I remember From other games Like The Force

But in P4 It's a parka monster All the unique personas For the team It's like Their designs change so fucking radically You have to wonder What your team is thinking when they look at you

And they're like oh you found the termination inside your spirit To find the truth Isanagi has given rise to Satan The one that really That gets me That they all have clear thematic things Of whatever Conscious supposed to be a wrestler

But Yosuke is just like Disco Frog Ninja, Disco Ninja Frog What? There's some puns releasing out And the trend and the names Are things that we can't even begin to Get the references to either You should play SMT

There's a lot more that you would get What's your nightmare fuel persona? It's Mara What's the dick writing in chariot? I'm so pissed that I didn't Level up the social link but the one that just looks Like a floating obelisk It's white and it has some rainbow colors on it

And it has like a Washington Monument style I like creepy shit like that too That's pretty cool cause you can pull that out in battle Is that even alive? What is that? Is gardening, fishing, bug catching, bullshit Gardening is bullshit

Bug catching is bullshit Bug catching is bullshit Fishing is awesome I did and enjoyed all three Specifically cause bug catching takes no time The bug catching and gardening were added In golden Fishing was the one from P4

And I enjoyed the hell out of fishing Mechara corn man And what do people in the real world Think the uses Of these things could possibly be Well cause SB is just your spirit It's your will power Why would a tomato fucking

I love tomatoes Return daikon What what The soil of Inaba Is rich with bullshit And all of the guardians are fucking cool You take them down to Daedara And he's like yo let me make a weapon out of that

Fish Daedara you're a cool guy Why can't you hang out with him She hangs out in that store sometimes Just looking at the bullshit Does she? I never found her in there Uh, Koromaru or Teddy It's Koro man

Koro He's a dog, he's Spursona And it's a gritsur You know what's cooler than Bersona? Arf arf Yeah yeah yeah totally And he's got the little wings on You know he's the shock caller

Yeah He's his evoker Yeah That's genius Absolutely Koro And then once he joins the team He's like I'm gonna be the best Member by just knowing what's up

Sensing your feelings Knowing when that The robot will translate my words That guy's turning evil Listen to me wag my tail You know And then go take him on a walk So good

Meet your friends while you're taking him on a walk So good Uh, fuck blank Ken, Adachi or Yukiko? Ken I'm gonna go ahead and say Yukari Like none of the above Ken and Yukari can I say both?

Like Adachi especially no Because in the Aden and Adachi's a piece of shit But it's like he's the That's the only explanation I would accept He's just a piece of shit Because after this crazy amount of build up And like unbelievable plot twisting and Why'd you do it man?

I did it for the lulls Exactly Like really? Yeah That's it? Because if there was some kind of like My parents abused me No writer would have been good enough

To wrap it up So the actual just like Like complete sociopathy Of like It's fun What? Would you not think this is fun? Yeah

What's your problem man? Like that I'm totally down for it Yeah And now that I get to see the fighting game trailer with him He's just like Ahhhh Yeah

Yeah Wife Wars 2014 It's Rusei Obviously It's like Rumors apparently going around That I was on the Naoto bandwagon Everyone assumed you were on the Naoto bandwagon

No and you know what I think what happened is Because I said I saw her Her outfit at Christmas Yeah Which implied you banged her Which I That's not But I went to go check that out

But in my canon save Oh In my canon save In your fantasies you checked it out It was I think your canon save was changed Of course it was The green girl with your hair

And Fucking kung fu moves And good kicks High kicks And she has problems with Being considered too tomboyish Ah yeah Which is the best kind of problem ever

And her storyline As you hang out with her And her old like Like Crushes a dick And you get to fucking stomp him out Yeah I want a big pop

Three times She hangs out on the roof man Yeah What Yeah She's like Yeah she resays in town Just hanging out

In front of the store or whatever Being the prettiest And the best And most interesting Any time There's a big emotional moment She cries Any time there's a big emotional moment

In any anime Or whatever I'm sorry Where do you fucking go You go up to the roof To have your memories Chie comes fucking I'm sorry

Installed on the roof I'm sorry that Rise has responsibilities And has to help run the tofu shop Like a proper Good child Dude Like

Chie is definitely The most willing To throw herself Into the fight Of anyone on that team She's always like Let's go rescue the person Let's fucking do it

Let's get in there And she's like Her whole thing's like I want to protect people That's the big Japanese trope Yeah But then she actually Follows up on it

Like no, for real I want to actually Protect people They're all good for it, man To the point of becoming a cock Everybody wants to protect people But not in She doesn't want to just do it

In the Japanese Bushido way She wants to really do it As a career path Like to the end I'm sorry What Rise wants to do Is make people happy She just wants to be

A girl on TV Dancing around And doing her thing It makes people happy Yeah Meanwhile, Chie's saving lives And they're happy Oh, really?

Yeah, okay Yeah Alright Your piece of shit P3 Let's do it again It's Mitsuru You know what?

And this one Like people come at me For the Rise choice To feel incredibly confident Saying Mitsuru out in public Because everyone agrees Even the developers agree Because she's the hardest one

To qualify to even talk to You have to get the top Of your marks Here's what's up though I never And I didn't And I'm not going to disagree with you Because Mitsuru

Is definitely the best girl there Yeah However However To me That's Akihiko's girl Yeah, well that's because you played That's because you played

Arena first So Like they're clearly like Pals and things are going on But I still But no Because I feel that way About Naoto

I think Naoto's awesome And totally would have been my pick No But Naoto To me is Kanji's girl No, they didn't go for it It's yours now I would know

No You don't steal No, there's no stealing You're stealing There's nothing No, it's totally That's bullshit Even if they decide to

Like even have a hint of a like Hey That is garbage If you and I were single And we were like Oh, that girl's pretty cute Like yeah, she's pretty cute And then I thought

You were like And then I waited Nine months And you didn't make a move I would ask that girl out To the dance Before the world ends If

If Saki Konishi Was still alive Would you? Nah Because I'm like You're like right in front of Bro-Suke You'd be like, hey bro You didn't call him

No, that's like That's different Because he's Actively Like trying to get in there Yo-Suke is very actively Like hitting on Saki Yeah, he actually had his

Where Akihiko Seems bored By chicks He's like, you know what I'd rather be trained I'd rather put my fists Into a bag A punching bag

Which was I don't know if this was only in the anime Or if it was in the game Because I don't remember it But wasn't there a thing where At least in the show He says, hey by the way Saki, how about those plans?

And she's like, oh yeah, Sherlock Come and text me And he's like, yes And he has tickets And I don't remember that being in the game It's not Okay, so they actually had a date Type Finn planned

Fucking twist that knife, guys Twist it Jesus Christ You know what, also While we're at it We didn't say Mary But man oh man Is she Waifu Bake

I want to point out And this is not making fun Of your pronunciation It's making fun of Their pronunciation It is Assurably Marie Marie, yeah

Because of Everything she's going for Hipster Strike girl It's Marie Like that design Screams Waifu Bake

I saw that I'm like, oh my god They really want you to Do the dating And I hit to the point Where I'm like, you know what I don't mind hanging out with her Yeah

Even if she's like She's a terrible punk You mentioned a little Like In Arena in Ultimax Her title is Hollow Forest Sundari Poet Yeah

And it is the only one That's actually Completely accurate You are totally hollow Absolutely Yeah But Her leggings are cool

Yeah, and some people Thought I was going to pick Fuka Because short hair But no guys It's not the way that works Is my cooking bad? Yes

Get done With you I think finished You cannot cook How does that end? I don't know You make up Okay

That's all it always says Elizabeth And some of the other weird ones Where it's just like This is explicitly ending in sex For the Sadako Or whatever her name is

The nurse The nurse in P4 Elizabeth And maybe Margaret depending Every single time You see the nurse Every It is a line

She pulls you into a broom closet And fucks you Yeah Okay Like the subtle That's very much what's happening Like wow You look really toned

For some Oh hey I'll show you something Yeah I'm a professional Tee hee hee You know Just all in all

Like we were running a bit long So let's wrap it up But People are going to say Four and a half hours What? And then in the early part We'll say there's a persona

Spoiler cast coming But no All in all Fucking right on there with you Games of like The What Pick a period

That they existed in Yeah They They are qualifiers It's just So much So how do you feel about the fact That P3 has a clear theme of blue

And P4 has a clear theme of yellow And P5 has a clear theme Of crimson red So I I knew when the yellow came out That they said this is about fear Right The reason why they chose that

Was they wanted a feeling of fear To be omnipresent And this is specifically What our other friend Other Pat was telling me Back in the day So that's a great place to start Pick a theme

Like Pick a color And the whole game's going to Build around this Around these two things Yeah We'll see where that goes Man

And so And also One of the things we were talking about Earlier The way that it starts in the picture These guys start with a theme Yeah What's the theme?

So the theme of P3 Is your life Yeah And for P4 It's about how people see you And see people through the media And the theme of P5 Is you are a slave

Want emancipation Do you want emancipation Yeah Um No I love that stuff I think Ah

Fuck I just had a point That slipped away from me But For For Ah Fuck

What was it? It was about P5 And Shit It's gone I'm sorry It should be in an office Not in a school

That's what I said I hope that you're all grown up At the very least Or in college And new characters Yeah please At best Have both old teams be

Off somewhere Doing hero shit Not To do with the stuff you're doing Yeah Ah And like Cause P4 arena

Is your Follow up to these characters Yeah You've seen where they go Yeah You don't need to kind of revisit that again So the question is In P5

Are you going to have a Oh Sorry I just remembered A school trip to Inaba Perhaps Yeah No

I got lost in a wiki trap Oh no On the wiki trap The other day When you told me that You're like Oh yeah So by the way

Um The malevolent entity Is Is The Nyarlatotep The almighty That is That is

Always there Um The voice in In the arena series And the What should we call it The blue butterfly Is

Is Philemon The Philemon who's also The The embodiment of all good All good Exactly And I was reading about how Well see here's the deal

People are works for him And he just stops mentioning it At a point He just sees like But those two Also Philemon Philemon is not god

Because in the persona universe God is dead Okay Whoa Whoa Okay Um What should we call it

These two characters Who were in the first two games Uh Nyarlatotep And Philemon They continue to exist In all the games Just

But they They got dealt with In P1 and P2 So they're in the back burner now But they're still Influenced They're around And the fighting game

Story line seems to imply That there's a build up Towards those characters return Because I remember Thinking the butterfly was Minato No Because the way they said

There's a shot Of all the good in the world Yeah Yeah And yellow eyes Is all the evil Yeah Right

Right Right That's pretty much it I mean I'm going to get hacked For all these fucking I'm going to play the dancing On my

I'm going to play Ah I'm going to play The Q Just to see what happens That means you're going to get Those cards Probably

And you're going to enjoy Those cards way more Than Like As an item to have Than you think you will You'll hold out The Hierophant

And you'll be like Yeah This is Dojima Yeah Yeah I guess My only Just my only

I guess sort of Final thought is like Things like Nix And things like Izanami And all that stuff Like even going back To P1 and P2

Was the bad guy Always just Humanities Like Feelings embodied Was it always that concept? I'm not super familiar With P1

And P2 Even the answer does that But Nyarlototep Is the embodiment Of all evil In the world Okay Because those things are like

And personas It's all the magic All the beast All the shadows They're all from the Sea The young The youngian sea

Of human unconscious Right They all come from there So yes It's always People's thoughts And dreams And made manifest

And Filamon is just young Himself Yeah Filamon is all the good in the world So With the exception Of Nyx and Izanami Being actual deities

That continue to exist Does the Shin Megami Tensei Original line Grab any of that at all? From Persona? Yeah No SMT1

The world is destroyed In a nuclear apocalypse SMT2 You fight Yahweh And destroy Yahweh And his angels And cause the multiverse

And cause the multiverse split And in one of those multiverse Splits Raidokuzenoha Is attacked by the Raidokuzenoha From SMT2 Because he wants to prevent the Nuclear apocalypse

And in so doing Prevents the nuclear apocalypse Which creates the Persona 1 And 2 timeline But then In Persona 2 Innocent sin Events happen

That you switch to the other side In which people forget the events Of all previous games And then in P2 Onwards You have P3 and P4 In which Some are

Primarily Japanese and Greek deities That used to be small fry Because Lucifer And God are gone These new younger deities Can cause shit again So that's how And that's why Raidokuzenoha

Is a movie in Persona 4 And that's how everything is canon Everything is canon Every conceivable reality Is canon Is version of events Yeah Summarized by every player character

Every person That played these games And got a different thing That is a canon universe That exists What the fuck have you guys gotten me into man? So SMT4 is next on the list It's right there

It's right there That's the deep shit It's been a while It's been a minute since I've played a JRPG But I can't Go back right in Alright So we're out

See you guys Later We're just gonna play SMT4 now SMT4 SMT4 SMT4 SMT4 SMT4

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