Castle Super Beast - SBFC 057: What's the Coolest Name for a Pet Raven?

Episode Date: September 9, 2014

WOW we totally forgot to talk about Pokken Tournament! Also every other megaton that dropped literally seconds after the last podcast finished. Time for the mop-up cast....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The End Aw, he draws people so dumb, it's great. It's amazing. Matt looks like a complete idiot in the last panel, I love it. And true to life, because if Pat had to climb a fence, that shit would be over. Someone wrote Pat's good climbing shit, because when the school girl's security comes from private schools, he has to jump fences all the time. No, short people are good at climbing stuff. And this comic says otherwise.
Starting point is 00:00:44 We scramble. We're like little trolls. This documentary says I'm good. Pat's running away from the security like one of the Shaun of the Dead trilogy movies. No, the fence. The fence guy. The fence just falls. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:00 I can climb stuff. Can you? Not well. Maybe 15 years ago, when I was like young, instead of being the old pile of garbage I am now, you practically got onto this couch. Especially Liam. Liam, I can't believe how garbage you've let yourself become. In what sense? Look at your hair.
Starting point is 00:01:20 It's so unkempt. My hair is really unkempt today, because I didn't dry it properly last night. Oh, you didn't dry it properly. It's your majesty. The most disheveled Liam gets is Five O'Clock Shadow. But if you let it grow out enough, it's fine. But it's the in-between moments of just a little bit of stuff. It's the worst, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:41 It's like it sucks, because the person that drives my hair and feeds me grapes wasn't in today. Yeah, Pat. I'm busy with stuff, man. Yeah, well. I gotta make it happen. You gotta wax that forehead. Hey, come on. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:01:55 I know I'm losing my hair from the forehead up, and then that big spot where I can't see and didn't know was there for years. That's okay. If you can't see it, it may as well not exist. Yeah, but I'm short, so everyone can see. If you're tall and bald, free pass. Who even knows? Right, yeah. You're short and bald.
Starting point is 00:02:16 Everybody's like, oh, I can see your brain. How many of us still have conflict? I never got it. I never got it. No one got it. No one got it but you. Just me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:30 It's on the way out. Stop licking doorknobs. I know, right? I just can't help it. Did you see those doorknobs? How did he go? How could he resist it? And I'm calling Energy Johns because of that.
Starting point is 00:02:41 It's on the way out. Plus, I decided to do the genius move of running a boot camp session this morning. Boot camp? Boot camp exercise. He ran for seven minutes. And that was all he needed for the whole month. No, there's like these morning exercise group boot camp things. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Well, he's got a big thing of tires in his room where he was doing the thing. Climb in. But with the room. I'm looking at myself. There's room. There's room. There's room. There's only a space for like one tire so he's just jumping in and out.
Starting point is 00:03:12 That's enough. One tire is enough. Yeah. Motivation. You do it fast enough. I'm like, you should talk to my house and fuck my sister. I'm private pile at the same time. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Pile? Cause where? We are mixing so many disordered elements here that only an aficionado of a bunch of garbage is going to get in. It's following us for a long time. It's fine. It's fine. It's great.
Starting point is 00:03:39 It's cool though. So welcome to our second packs podcast, right? That's where everyone wants us to talk about it again. We're good. We're good. We're just going to talk about everything we missed the last time. Yeah. I saw some comments like, oh man, you guys, you did it too early.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Like we did do it a day early so we missed like the TGS stuff. That was intentional. But like then the TGS stuff ended up being mostly nothing. You heard the start of TGS on the at the end of the podcast. That's true. Cause Lam's just like, shut up. Also, a lot of people are like, oh, you should have recorded it a day late just so you could talk about, I'm like, how about everyone that doesn't care about that said news would
Starting point is 00:04:17 then be like, why is the podcast a day late? Well, the problem is, is no matter what fucking day you record the podcast, you're always late. Yeah. Always early. Plus the last couple of podcasts? And do it right after the, we get off the plane. Yeah. We were all just falling asleep in each other's arms.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Yeah. The bucket levels of blur. Yeah. But it's the last couple of podcasts. Something has always been revealed the next day. The moment. Like the moment. That's the beauty of recording on Monday.
Starting point is 00:04:44 That's the beauty of recording on Monday. Where things have come out like three hours after we record it. Yeah. It was the residual thing and then it was the persona thing this year. Yeah. We didn't even talk about the new 3DS either. We talked about it for like two seconds. You briefly mentioned it.
Starting point is 00:04:56 We'll go back to it. We'll go back to it. Cause there's new news about that this week. Yeah. There's some stuff. I've heard old boys and giant bombs say like, if you're not recording your podcasts on a Tuesday, what the fuck are you doing? You're fucking garbage.
Starting point is 00:05:07 Get out of the game. Crazy. You're recording and listening. Recording and recording. How come we don't? Before they ask you guys and put it back. Podcasts go up on Tuesdays and if you don't put up your podcasts on Tuesday, you're filthy animal.
Starting point is 00:05:18 All right. That's correct. That's why they stole that. You're a wild thing. They'll come for us. Unwashed. Like the heathen. It's the end times.
Starting point is 00:05:26 That's the word I was going to go to. Yeah. So no. Before all that like wrap up though. I mean busy week, right? Yeah. For us. So we did the Pax podcast and then the two days after that were dedicated to the following
Starting point is 00:05:39 noise. Yeah. Yeah. That sounds about right. More or less. Yeah. Matt's doing it again. I made him sleepy.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Yeah. Yes. But man, that sleep though. Oh. Oh motherfucker. God. Oh jeez. It was so good.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Fucking in a coma for that shit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I guess we'll hear what happened for me this week. Yeah. What did you do? A couple of things.
Starting point is 00:06:16 I came home and I watched the road because we felt like a few. Wasn't it one of us that recently watched it and came away from it going oh my soul. I have one. It's not anymore. No, it's gone now. I only knew it was gone when this movie killed it. Yeah. No.
Starting point is 00:06:38 And you're going through like I know this is going to be terrible. Oh it gets Omar. Oh. You know. That's a late game sucker punch. Man. You know. And it's just it's got so much.
Starting point is 00:06:49 At least Omar got a role in where she can sink his teeth into it. Yeah. And there's so much like God damn it. It sucks. And fuck that person for this reason. But you can't blame anybody for anything. You really can't. Because life is so garbage.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Because there's nothing left. That movie. There's nothing. There is that awesome place you could have just stayed though. I forget the reason why. I can hear dudes. That's the reason. And even the color palette is like.
Starting point is 00:07:19 It's gray and gray. I was going to say. Yeah. And red. And there's a little bit of red. It's basically Mad World. Um. The road is the road.
Starting point is 00:07:28 It's a good movie. The road is a good movie. I recommend that as well. It's a good movie that most of you should just never watch. I then needed to feel a bit better. So I finished off Bojack Horseman. Yeah. Good job.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Which is fantastic and ends on the not so happiest note as well. Well it doesn't end on a not so happy note. But it builds up to a woo. It's got a couple moments of hey now. That's not funny. Good job. I actually didn't finish it. I got like five, six episodes in.
Starting point is 00:07:57 But I watched a bunch of other stuff. Yeah. No, no. It's great. It's a great like season one thing. And I've got like the cameos keep coming in. It's fun. It's fun stuff.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Bojack is a good show. Guess what? If you have lots of cameos, it's fine as long as you set your show in Hollywood. It totally makes sense. Um. And I didn't even recognize like some of it. Like J.K. Excuse me.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Yeah. Who did he play? I didn't even find out. The director guy. Really? Yeah. No. Like it's really I'm like of course he is.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Yeah. Why didn't I figure that out? Yeah. Really good show. Um. I also fell in love this week. I hear. I fell in love with a beautiful woman.
Starting point is 00:08:39 No. He fell in love with her this week. Her name is Red. Ah. Red. The city is cloudscape. Oh. You're going to just not shut the fuck up on transistor, are you?
Starting point is 00:08:48 I can't dude. It's my news. You can't. Like I'm obsessed with transistor you guys. Like. So I forced my PS4 onto Wally. And I knew. You're like take this.
Starting point is 00:08:58 I wanted to play demonstrably superior system. I had no idea how much this game was going to be my type of joint. Yeah. Like everything in it, every asset like music, art, story, gameplay, design. Every element of it individually is exactly what I need in Crave. Um. And I mean I can see like I see this, you know, it went out there got like 8.5s and things like that.
Starting point is 00:09:24 It got 9. I like the game just fine. But like I didn't finish it. Yeah. I didn't feel the need to. I got what I wanted halfway through. Fair enough. Uh, for me, like I, I can't objectively say, speak for everybody, but subjectively, it's
Starting point is 00:09:37 like flawless to me. Oh, it's incredible. It's just so tight was the word you mean. Yeah. It's super tight. There's no wasted elements. No fluff. There's no fluff.
Starting point is 00:09:46 There's loops on itself in the best possible ways. Um. Also, it's so polished. It's absurdly polished. Yeah. You rarely find an indie game with that level of polish. No rough edges anywhere. And I say like everything looks great.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Like super giant. Like. There are indies. Indies such a fluid term. Yeah. Yeah. Who's indie? Uh, fucking.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Capybara. Capybara is indie. If you're not owned by someone, you're indie. I'm forgetting everything. Telltale. Telltale. You consider like a journey in flower indie games despite the fact that they're like directly published by Sony.
Starting point is 00:10:21 I would say no. It's such a fluid term. It really means just small teams. Small scale, small team. Yeah. Like double finds, indie. Yeah. They have a billion teams now.
Starting point is 00:10:31 But yeah, I know. I'm just fucking. Oh my God. I beat it. And then as soon as the credits wrapped, jumped on the website, bought the soundtrack, bought the poster, bought the t-shirt, bought the USB, transistors, the sword. And then like jumped back into new game plus like it. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:48 It's great. That music man. Yep. And then, you know, like kind of thirsty for more Vigia as they call it. Of course. Yeah. I played a bit more gunvolt. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Okay. We didn't talk about that last week, but three of us got into gunvolt. We talked about that. We were going to play. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm a good ways into gunvolt. Sure.
Starting point is 00:11:08 At this point. That's Azure Striker gunvolt. Yeah. Eight. Eight? So, you know, the first two screens cleared and then you're moving on to the next set. It's all right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:23 I was going to say. So the last time we talked about it, me and Liam were talking about how we don't like this and you're like, no, that's fine, but you'd only played like a little bit. I played the intro mission and one of the, and the first like cold area. And I went a bit further in and yeah, it's kind of like the way we were talking about seconds a bit. Not that like a bit better than that, but there's just, there's no, like, I don't know, having a hard time.
Starting point is 00:11:48 I find it like, and Pat, you're going to hate me for using this term, but I find the moment to moment gameplay isn't that good where like you're constantly starting, you're starting and stopping because you hate the term moment to moment. I do. You once upon a time, you told me you did, Sonny. But uh. I hate the word the gameplay loop. Oh well.
Starting point is 00:12:04 The gameplay loops also. So anyway, like you're constantly stopping and starting and like, unless you're at the top level where you have a perfect grasp of the mechanics and you're just constantly using the lightning thing. Well, I try. It ends up not being that smooth. When I play it, I try to keep holding forward. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:21 You know what I mean? And move as much as possible. That's what makes it fun. But there are parts in the game that simply say, no, you cannot stop into this kind of thing. And I kind of like, at the same time, it is like got a lot of Mega Man zero in it. It's got a lot of Mega Man zero. A bit.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Um, but right now I want more weapons because weapons made. You just got the gun. Yeah. And there's different types of shots. I have four different types of shots. Yeah. But it's still just the gun. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:48 It knows he's safe. Exactly. And like, and like a lot of what helped zero be fresh was like, got your boss weapons plus you're just your awesome like melee sword, your, you know, your, your tridents, your every, all the, all the, the, the melee mix ups and stuff. And here, yeah, you're just, it's not mixing it up enough. Um, I still think it has time to ramp up. And you know, I do appreciate like the, the attempts to make it more story intensive.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Sure. Yeah. And the story is not even bad. The dialogue is actually quite good. Yeah. I had heard there was too much of it. But once you get past the first area, like it does look good. Also the briefings are completely optional for every, like you have to go to it.
Starting point is 00:13:27 You know what it feels like? You can press start to skip every country. The entire game feels like the demo that they put on the Kickstarter page to get you excited for the full game. And it feels like that level after level after level of like, is this really it? Yeah. You're, you're missing a mechanic or there's something off. This feels like the thing to get you excited for the main game.
Starting point is 00:13:47 No, I agree. Like I really wasn't feeling it. It's not bad. It's not bad. Considering the pedigree of who's involved. It's a great, yeah. I do really like the supers that you get. Those are great.
Starting point is 00:13:59 Yeah. I'm enjoying those quite a bit. There's no, there's a couple of things I love. Like when you die and then you get the lyrics start up for the song. Yeah. Like, okay. There's a couple when you die too hard and you get like, I'm going to cheer for you mode.
Starting point is 00:14:12 Yeah. You're super powerful and can't lose. Like that's really cool. And that's really fun. Yeah. It's just like, okay, man, get to the boss. Yeah. Or win.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Finish the boss. Yeah. Exactly. Can you get it within a boss plan? Yes, you can. The boss plan. Oh, okay. Because it's the comeback.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Yeah. That's all. No new animation, just the comeback. Right on. Right on. Gets up off the map. But you know, that's where it is. I'll finish it off and see where it goes.
Starting point is 00:14:36 And I guess just sort of the last thing was a while ago, I don't know if you guys remember, but someone sent this in the mail bag, a bottle of Reaper hot sauce. Yes. Yes, I do remember. Which is the 1.4 million Scoville hot sauce. You son of a motherfucker. You didn't actually eat that. Did you?
Starting point is 00:14:51 Oh, oh, oh. I thought you gave it to someone. Oh. And how was this? Oh yeah. Hot sauce. Delicious. How's your pot?
Starting point is 00:14:59 How's your ass? It's fine so far. But then Williamson was talking, he goes, wait. Oh. Oh. It can't be. That's something you put on your shelf to throw at intruders. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Okay. I need to stop. I need a spray bottle. In case it's not already established. I love hot sauce. That's true. You mentioned. But I would keep that in case I'm in a home alone style situation and I need to swing
Starting point is 00:15:23 that bottle. The wrapper was a pepper invented because the boot Jalokia wasn't strong enough. Like, and I'm loving it. It's really tasty. You're sick. And you know, like it's honestly, you don't go crazy obvious for me. Of course. You put two drops.
Starting point is 00:15:38 You put a little drop on your meatball. You take a little. They're not. They're not Guatemalan insanity peppers brewed in the jungle's primeval within a Guatemalan insane asylum. I don't have to pour my mouth with wax to make sure that I can swallow the chili when I make it. Good luck.
Starting point is 00:15:54 William, don't quit your day job. Whatever that is. But it's delicious. And you know, thanks to whoever sent that, man, because it's reignited my passion. Oh, reignited. Oh, oh, oh. And I want to see if I can get a practice podcast. I want to go higher.
Starting point is 00:16:10 I want to go higher. There's no, there's no higher than the Reaper. Can you? It was in here for pepper freaks. Higher. The only way to go higher is to literally just take a pepper and just bite it. I thought nine alarm was higher. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:28 Just dunk your face in some lava. That'll make you happy. Yeah. We got to do hot pepper gaming sometime. We really do. We really do. Oh, I'm a huge baby, though. But it'll be so good.
Starting point is 00:16:41 It'll be amazing. Okay. I'd be so psyched. Yeah, me too. We need an invite first. Yeah. Yeah. What's going on, man?
Starting point is 00:16:49 How are you this week? After I got back, yeah, gun vault was kind of, and that's what I was playing immediately as I got back because it came out on the, well, whatever, came out that weekend. Well, we were down there and we had to sit down and download it. Yeah. And I got one of those Nintendo beanbag chairs. Yeah. Now I want one.
Starting point is 00:17:04 You were sitting on the beanbags downloading a gun vault. Yeah. I liked it. So I played that and I wasn't super feeling it. And little did I know there would be a game this week that would fill my gun vault craving of like great 2D platforming, which is Velocity 2X. Yeah. Like I dabbled in the original and it's good.
Starting point is 00:17:21 I never super got into it, but Velocity 2X is on a whole other level. It's so much better. Like as far as... The trailer was gorgeous. The trailer was excellent. Yeah. The game is just as good looking the whole way through. Like no bullshit in that trailer.
Starting point is 00:17:33 That's the fun of the game. Well, I see that and I'm like, man, if only that were Samus and if only that was the gunship. Oh, sure. You know what I mean? Sure. By the way, do you have some Metroid News on the docket? Because there's some Metroid News on the docket. There's some Metroid News on the docket.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Well, we'll bring it up later. Yeah, really. But that's okay. It's so fucking good. It's so good. I think like it and Transistor are by far the best like indie games. I feel disappointed in myself for seeing Velocity 2X, seeing what it was and then going not.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Yeah. I feel like that's my failure. You even tried it, right? Do you have a thing against like that type of game? Does it just not interest you? Or is it? What is it? I like Gradius V.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Yeah. Because I'm trying to figure out. Like because you said... Like the speed up, slow down. I don't care for it. Because you dropped Catherine because you just didn't like the puzzle. That's right. But every time you put a puzzle element in your game, you're one step further from getting
Starting point is 00:18:25 me to turn it off. But it's straight up platforming games. Like what? That's not a platformer, man. It's not a platformer, man. Well, shoot Schmuck platformer. It's a Schmuck game. It's a speed up and slow down platformer.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Okay. Like there's puzzle elements to it. The instant I saw that speeding up and slowing down was a puzzle element, I'm like, no, I want to shoot it. I just want to shoot it. And then I went back and played more Rezo Gun instead. Sure. Rezo Gun is still great.
Starting point is 00:18:46 Yeah. But Velocity 2x is fucking amazing. I think it's like a must-have. Like I played the Vita and the PS4 versions because I wanted to see which one I like better. I think the touch screen suits it better than just the stick warping because you get more precise warps. Like I want to go here, not like, move the stick to there, you know? You know what, man, after Shrek, I just might go buy the fucking box right now.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Like I was... I was gonna ask you how many PS4 games do you have to play on Liam's PS4 and just keep his PS4? If I recall, this is the first. This is the first. Where is this even coming from? Yeah. Well, this is the second one.
Starting point is 00:19:22 No? No, no. Velocity. He's talking about it, but you say that as if this were some sort of thing. Where is this coming from? Well, I was asking for James' sister. Yeah. And I'm saying if I had known, that would have been my cellar, if I was a sister.
Starting point is 00:19:36 I mean, if you still got Pads Vita, you should go try Velocity because it's so good. That's true. Yeah. You don't have PS Plus because it's free on that. I don't. You don't. You start getting it right away. If you ever plan on ever getting a Sony consoles, get PS Plus and just download the free games
Starting point is 00:19:53 off the website because you'll keep them forever. Okay. Yeah. That game's really good. And the other game that I played just as much, if not more, was Danganronpa 2. And it's great. It totally kicks the first one's ass. I haven't finished it quite yet.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Yeah, but it's way better, way twistier. The mysteries are just better. It's fantastic. I didn't really say anything without spoiling it. Yeah. There's a lot more minigames. Danganronpa only came out like six months ago. There's a lot more minigames in the trials and they're just as fun as the previous one.
Starting point is 00:20:22 How much ronpa is there compared to Danganronpa? There's four times as much Dangan as the ronpa this time around. Okay. Yeah. I don't know what that means. I made that up. In Japanese it would mean gibberish. I didn't think you were going to actually answer my question.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Well, I stepped up to the challenge. You did it. Yeah. Well, good for me. Yeah. Okay. Okay. There's an anime movie called Omaewa Umasou, which means you are tasty, you are delicious,
Starting point is 00:20:47 whichever. This is a sex thing or a whore thing? No. It's basically like a... Size of life? Almost. It's like a Japanese land before time, if you will, where it's about dinosaurs, right? And this family of plant eaters takes in a baby T-rex that was in an egg.
Starting point is 00:21:07 Oh, and he's got a lot to be a whore. Why the problem? You're so stupid. It's called... It goes places. It's really good. Things that only eat plants all day are just dumb. I've never seen T-rexes do aerial kick combos and drop kicks, but they're really cool when
Starting point is 00:21:24 you do them. No. It's actually a really cool movie. They can't punch you. Exactly. Headbutts and kicks all the time. Gone knows. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Gone's really cool. Anyway, I think that was pretty much my week though, otherwise, so I will send it off to Matt. Matt, what did you do this week? As soon as it got off the plane from Pax, just like, hey, asshole, we got to start planning the wedding again. You've been gone a whole weekend, and I'm like, oh, shit, all right, let's do it. So a lot of number crunching the last couple of days, it's gained a little overwhelming,
Starting point is 00:21:58 but we'll power through it. The one thing I wanted to say is that we didn't really get to talk about it, but we had that little, as soon as the day before we went to Pax, we all got together for a dumb thing for my birthday from, like, what, now it's been two weeks. Yeah. Yeah. And we went to that arcade, and like, I was going to lament, this is the first arcade where I've been and where it was the swiping card thing, which is completely new to me.
Starting point is 00:22:23 And that's why he was like, oh, this place in Seattle has it too, the game works or whatever. And I was just like, and then of course, if your servers are down and they're in Argentina, your games don't work, apparently, which is what the guy at the one we went to. You can't play with APAC. You can't play Virtua Cop 3 with this amazing, perfectly restored, like, tab, because the server's down. The server's down. That's the catch to being the one last populated arcade in Montreal is like, nothing's working.
Starting point is 00:22:57 You know? Yeah. But the pool saved it. The pool saved it. The pool was fun. And we got to like, peer over at the dark communion that was all the girlfriends hanging out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:11 I was nervous. Willie was sweating, like half of his sweat was dedicated to the tension of the pool game and half of his sweat was dedicated to, what are they talking about over there? It's a different kind of sweat. What do you think they're talking about? What do you think they're talking about? Whatever it is, it's twice as bad as that. Twice as bad as that.
Starting point is 00:23:27 I, Marathon, finished True Detective in a day. Yeah, you did. And it's pretty good. I was let down by the ending quite a bit. Really? Because not like it was bad, it just kind of just petered out and I felt that there was like just not that much resolution, but then I'm kind of thinking that maybe it wasn't really about the killer or anything.
Starting point is 00:23:49 No, it wasn't. It was about the main two detectives. That's right. I can't spoil things. Try to not spoil things. That's my... No, no, no. Who did it?
Starting point is 00:23:57 In advance. But here's the thing. It doesn't really matter who like, that's the thing I was going to say. If you're looking to say who did it, because that's what everyone likes in a murder mystery. Who's done it, yeah. It's not, it's about the personalities of the two detectives and how they interact with each other. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:24:12 But after watching like something like, by the way, not that anyone ripped anyone off, but since I finished Hannibal, this show definitely has a lot of similarities to the Hannibal show in that like the murders involve like horns, elk horns, and deer horns. And I was like, why, that's really specific imagery. So I felt like, I actually enjoy Hannibal a little bit more just because the characters are just a little more outlandish, which I enjoy. There's more episodes and seasons, doesn't it? No, two detectives got like ten Hannibal, the first season is in S-12, the second season
Starting point is 00:24:49 is in S-12. But I still enjoyed it immensely. Like Matthew McConaughey should get the whatever, what do they get? The Emmys? For it. For a while. There are very long extended scenes that are just straight up 15 minutes of McConaughey talking to the camera.
Starting point is 00:25:06 And they're amazing. They're amazing. Hey man, have some cards. You got fucking... Spacey. Spacey talking to you. Yeah. Same shit.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Amazing. All on board. So they're saying the true detective season two is going to be about California like drug running. But I've seen it be about everything. It's going to have these actors. It's going to be here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:26 And it's one of those things that they want to... Like Ubisoft. Oh, when's it going to happen? This assassin's creed. What time? All guests? Never. Never.
Starting point is 00:25:36 Not Japan. I also, for my birthday and my girlfriend bought me the really, the big new edition of Twin Peaks on Blu-ray that has both seasons fire walk with me and 90 minutes of deleted scenes that are packaged to be its own separate season. Wow, really? That's impressive. It's crazy how much. And there's all these special features that are amazing where it's like everyone just
Starting point is 00:25:57 talking mad shit about David Lynch. Lynch is an indecisive man. Pat, do you remember a scene where it's very early on where Horn, the guy that owns the Great Northern, his brother comes back with these cheese breeze sandwiches? That's right. Yeah. And they're just fucking the sandwiches with their face. So the actor that's supposed to eat the sandwich goes like, all right, what do you want me
Starting point is 00:26:20 to do here, David? I'll take a bite of the sandwich and then deliver the lining. He goes, okay. Then David Lynch goes, no, no, no. You need to take a big bite. And he goes, all right. And he keeps doing it. 12 takes later.
Starting point is 00:26:31 He's like, David, I don't know what you want. I don't want to hear your lines. Eat the sandwich until I can't hear you. And he goes, but this is completely what type of character is this? He goes, eat the sandwich. So when I watched it and I'm thinking about it, I was like, oh my God, I remember this scene so well now that they're talking about it because I was like, what the hell? I can't hear what the guy is saying.
Starting point is 00:26:54 He's going, but that was the intent. It's so much more memorable that way. He loves that sandwich so much. And then when we're watching that scene, I said, I really want to eat this. It's a baguette filled with brie. Brie, I remember. So we've been doing that. And then, you know, I originally, I got to maybe slightly after the first season.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Now I'm getting way deeper into that second season. Boy, is that second season. Let's forget everything. Hey, remember that? Reveal the killer to early way too early. So that was really fun. Can't help but notice that you've got the true detective box right there, which is you're not watching it digitally.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Well, I don't even know how to get in it. Like aside from like the non legal ways of getting it, I don't know how to get an HBO show and I wanted all of it. Yes, you can. Yes, you can. You should also marathon it. Watching that. It's very, it's very easy to marathon.
Starting point is 00:27:54 I found like a digestible. Got some other marathon to take care of. I do. Yeah, you do. And if you don't want to do that soon, then I want to take it all so I can watch it. It has to be next week, you bastard. No, we have to do stuff next week. No, next week.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Come on. Anyway, I took a really quick trip to the zoo that's actually in Montreal. The Eco Museum owned by McGill. Yeah. College. You guys want to take the Misses is out. That's the fun time. Cute animal zoo.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Yes, not that far. It's like off the island. I'll think about it. Does it smell like poop? No, actually. But there's a porcupine who smells terrible. That's his deal. So the great thing about this zoo is that all the animal facts are written by the
Starting point is 00:28:35 animal's point of view. And it's like, I'm stinky. Deal with it. It was like hilarious stuff. There's a picture of a raven looking at E equals MC squared on chalkboard. And I'm looking at it and goes, I don't think this is technically accurate at all. I don't think so, but. And I took a lot of pictures.
Starting point is 00:28:50 If anyone follows my Twitter, I'll probably have Matt's fun animal facts of my made up bullshit animal facts that are played up simply for laughs. Well, what was the raven's name? There's no names for them. Oh, but probably never more. Because or or or. We would all be in a different. No, could you just say, Edgar?
Starting point is 00:29:11 Couldn't you just call it Edgar? I was going to call him Vulcan for a second. I wasn't going there either. I thought you wanted Vulcan. I wanted Vulcan. Really? Okay. I was thinking Raphael. I cannot believe what I would guess the best one.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Mine would be Raphael. That's the best one. But what I thought about it, I didn't say the same thing. Yeah, that's amazing. And almost like we're different people. Pose the best. But I said Raphael raven, motherfucker. And much like you, Willie, this morning, I we're starting to go to
Starting point is 00:29:40 while we didn't go to the bootcamp thing, but we went to the gym. Anyway, I don't want to talk about it. Crossfit. Not crossfit. Just regular old gym. We have a free trial for a week. See if we like it. And because again, one of the things I didn't know about wedding is that
Starting point is 00:29:53 you better look like you're the fucking best like moment of your life. Sucking your guts. Feels good, huh? Feel the burn. And a few nights ago, I was like, I'm just going to play a third strike online just to see if anyone's playing. Oh, shit. Tons of people are playing.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Third strikes forever, bro. I didn't think so. Oh, he's going to be going. So I played a couple of minutes. I think I told you I played against a guy whose name was literally Macho Man, Randy Sabbath, and King Fart Pants. I remember that name. That guy was awesome.
Starting point is 00:30:24 I had a good run. I was surprised. The competition doesn't seem too great. So that's good for me, I guess. Yeah, picked a good time. So that's about it for Mace. That leaves just you, Patrick. So you know what I didn't do this week?
Starting point is 00:30:36 Go to the gym. Fuck that. Anyway, yeah, I can't climb things. Fuck me. Anyway, so I'm just reminded of like at the hotel where you have to climb onto the bed. Yes, yes, we're going to the fucking hotel room. It's like, to be fair, I also think
Starting point is 00:30:56 beds are way too high or bull shit. Suddenly. If you know the arcade game Crazy Climber, it would basically be nice. Or like a fucking burger time. Yeah. Like a laughter just permeates the room. And I look around, what's going on?
Starting point is 00:31:10 And I see Pat's circle strafing the bed. And it's like, what's going? Oh my god, he's having a hard time getting up onto it. Oh! He got a bed, though. You got it, though. You nailed it, man. OK, well.
Starting point is 00:31:27 You pulled it off. Anyways. So I watched some movies this week. I usually don't watch all that many, but I watched a bunch. I saw Guardians again. Still fantastic. Amazing on rewatch as well. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:31:42 I'm sure. That's what I noticed. Just as an aside, Guardians of the Galaxy, like another week at number one, it's this. I'm surprised. I could go watch it right now. It's like the third. It's like the only, out of three movies ever,
Starting point is 00:31:57 it's one of the only ones that has stayed on number one that long. The other ones were Avatar, one of the Hunger Games, and. Avengers? No, not even Avengers, something else. Not to downplay, but do you think that could be due to not much competition right now? Yeah, no fair enough.
Starting point is 00:32:12 But also, when it started, it's usually a dead must. We're a fucking night. You're right, man. We're a mouth is pushing that shit. So watching Guardians of the Galaxy again, this time with my girlfriend. You pick up the extra stuff, right? It ended in a weird place, because we stayed till the Stinger,
Starting point is 00:32:31 which I'm going to spoil because it's integral to this story. The Stinger is Howard Duck. It's been a while. And I was like, I don't know what the fuck that is. That's just some fucking stupid weirdo duck. And at which point, my girlfriend basically grabs my face, because you don't know who Howard Duck is. And that's the appropriate reaction.
Starting point is 00:32:52 So I went home and watched Howard Duck. What a fucking weird, shitty, amazing movie. What a terrible, terrible piece of garbage. It kind of ruined Marvel movies for a while. They were unable to finance anything else for a year. Everything about it, except for Duck's animatronic face, which is Godlike, is just the worst. Just the worst.
Starting point is 00:33:19 I don't suppose you grabbed any comments. Comics? No. I don't know what's going on. Just like this tiny little duck man trying to fuck a punk rock singer in this super high tension duck sexy. But notice that it's not Duck Man, though.
Starting point is 00:33:32 You see that? That's the weirdest part. And it's like, then he fights Satan? I didn't think this weird cartoon duck was going to fight Satan. But he did. Anyone? It's a Marvel property, man. It's not a great movie, is it?
Starting point is 00:33:45 Oh, it's amazing. I would recommend it to everyone. What a fucking great flick. And coming off of that weird, shitty, 80s, 70s movie that I didn't see, but I should, I finally got around to watching the rest of They Live and not just the fight scene. OK. So everyone on the internet has probably
Starting point is 00:34:08 seen the rowdy, rowdy, piper, Keith David, Street Fight brawl from They Live as the greatest, longest, most indulgent, just brutal street fight scene ever exists. It's basically a wrestling match on film. The movie around that kicks ass. It has held up. The pacing is really slow and calm and absurd. I do not know this, but John Carpenter directed They Live.
Starting point is 00:34:37 And it shows. It is a fucking weird ass movie. There is a moment in that film before the fight scene in which rowdy, rowdy, piper throws on the classes, picks up a shotgun, goes into a bank, and just starts shooting people at random. Now, that scene is important because when you play Duke Nukem 3D, I always thought the line,
Starting point is 00:34:59 I'm here to kick ass and shoot bubblegum, was from an evil dead that I just missed. But it's not, it's from that. What a kick ass, weird fucking movie. And rowdy is a really good actor. Like, he's keeping up with David, and he's blowing past all the supporting cast in that movie.
Starting point is 00:35:20 So what you're saying is why they hired rowdy is because he's an actual talker. Like, he's good at talking. So what you're saying is suburban commando. No, it doesn't quite hold up. Not quite, not quite. What a fucking amazing movie. And the only game I played this past week was PT.
Starting point is 00:35:39 And it's too scary. This is the second time I've played it. I did not play it. The girlfriend was extremely, she's like, I want to play PT. I'm like, OK, fuck. You'll be really scared. So we turned down the lights.
Starting point is 00:35:51 We closed the blinds. Everything's pitch black. And as it goes on, one of us is getting, like, fucking freaked out and hyperventilating. Which one, which one? At one point, coming extraordinarily close to fainting for real. And it was me.
Starting point is 00:36:09 It was me. And I rediscovered something in the ensuing discussion about what a bitch I am. I don't play horror games without it being 3 PM in the afternoon. Yep. And I don't like being scared. I don't like scary movies.
Starting point is 00:36:29 I play Silent Hill and Resident Evil. And I like the horror theme. But I like it just fine in the middle of the day. The lights off. But Guillermo and Koji are like, here's actual fear. And I am coming from where I say, I'm not sure if I'm going to buy that game. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Because it might be too scary for me. I have never felt more emasculated than in seeing the girlfriend giggle 10 seconds after the scare while I'm going, ah, ah, ah, ah. See, I don't get it. Because when I get scared, I scream. And then immediately after, I start laughing my ass off.
Starting point is 00:37:06 I withdraw into my tears zone. Because it's like, every time, it's like, ah, why you got me. If it's a jump scare, that's my reality. No, but anything. Even tense. If it's a conceptual, ooh. I think the atmosphere is something that's hard to understand.
Starting point is 00:37:22 I have never in my life, by anything, been as scared of anything as PT. I never, I have never felt like me and Woolly have literally seen nothing. I have been dodging everything. I have never, in my life, felt actually faint. I thought that's what just losers did, because they're babies.
Starting point is 00:37:40 But no, I'm a baby. So fuck it. Everyone's a baby because of this. I'm so happy that this exists now. Because it's such a talking point. I have a strong feeling. Well, and it's cool. Because if anyone ever buys a PS4,
Starting point is 00:37:55 you can just be like, play it. It's free. It's there. It's free. Play it. And everyone should try it. I really hope that this becomes a trend. Because PT, being a sleeper release,
Starting point is 00:38:04 said nobody knew what it was. And all this, it's amazing. So I complain a lot about games. No. Hold on. Shut up. Shut the fucking mouth. I complain a lot about games being shown too early.
Starting point is 00:38:19 And I hate the wait. But when it's just here, I don't know what this is. And then you earn the right to wait. You wish it was still 1997, where it's like, game pro has an ad for this thing. What is this? It's out today. But this is like that.
Starting point is 00:38:37 And I would love to see more games do that. Where it's just like generic character action game. No, it's not. It's the new Devil May Cry. Subverting expectations. And also this demo, or whatever the fuck it is, is clearly completely standalone and has nothing to do with the game, and can exist by itself.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Even if the game comes out or doesn't, or it comes out and it's still fantastic. Nothing's ever going to touch the quality of this. There's definitely a magic to what you're talking about. Because imagine if you started playing Destiny, not knowing it was Destiny. Yeah, of course. You're like, all right, but Destiny is Destiny.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Remember, that's what they tried to do with the Phantom Pain at first. Remember, it was just called the Phantom Pain, and it wasn't a Metal Gear Solid title at all. But that was in trailer phase. Yeah, but still, everyone thought it was a completely different pain. Yeah, it was like, what is this thing?
Starting point is 00:39:24 And then it turned into that. This is just taking that one step further by getting it. Kojima doesn't mind keeping you in the dark, it seems. Fred, when calling Kojima a hack, still, you get fucking confused. I thought that Phantom Pain was this game. I thought it was Silent Hill. And then when Silent Hill was announced,
Starting point is 00:39:42 I thought it was just bullshit. Yes, you did. And now it's actually Silent Hill. We said he would never get us again every time he gets us. That's why I thought I was on Twitter, and I saw Phil Fish making photo shops of big breasted women characters in a Silent Hill game going, great. Guess we have this to look forward to now
Starting point is 00:40:01 that Kojima is about to ruin Silent Hill for everybody. I didn't even see that. I wrote back to him, and I got a lot of retweets on it. It says, oh, I wish he could just be in his upstanding and influentially positive person like he was. The only girl in Silent Hill that has overly large breasts is from four.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Her name's Maria. She's a stripper. But if Kojima is working on it, it's got to be like that. It can't be actually good. Everyone, even walking dead men, will be a stripper in this one. Walking dead men? What's his name? Baby?
Starting point is 00:40:31 Ritas? What? Norman Reedus? Norman Reedus or walking dead? Yes, yes, Ritas. Sorry, when you say walking dead, I immediately go to the game. There was a part of this Norman Reedus thing that I really ate up.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Daryl. Daryl. So I really ate up because, woolly, you were right, but you were also wrong because of how absurd it was. And we were talking about how Norman Reedus got the part. And it's like, you said it's because he's big and walking dead right now. So no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:40:57 It's because Del Toro worked on him on some fucking Twilight Zone hack shit called, like, back. Gave him his first job. 15 years ago. And you're like, that's stupid. That's ridiculous. That's way too out there. And then we're watching it.
Starting point is 00:41:08 It up comes the interview with Del Toro. It's like, yeah, I gave him his first job. So I wanted that. That's so stupid. I should be wrong. Yeah, it's nuts, man. Like, these dudes are just playing. This is a game.
Starting point is 00:41:21 Amazing. Now, the question is, who's going to have the balls to do this again with their marketing? Kojima. And only Kojima? Will no one else step up to the play? I would hope no. It's not going to.
Starting point is 00:41:31 It's not going to be like. Like, certain developers never. I don't see any Paul marketing saying this is OK. Because you've got to, like, sharpen up your weapons and go into the marketing office and be like, OK, I have faith in my game. Yeah, I'm going to spend game money, real cash money, to get this game marketed cool.
Starting point is 00:41:49 You know? And then they're going to be like, fuck you. Put 3D faces on the cover. I know who it is. It's Ubisoft. Yeah, maybe. They're Western, but they're also a bunch of fucking weirdos.
Starting point is 00:42:00 Yeah, it's, yeah. I mean, I. And they collaborate with Kojima on weird bullshit. It's true too. Yeah, maybe. Maybe not for anything AAA. No. Only for small stuff.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Yeah. But yeah, I do agree, man. You just want to get your hands on this thing and be like, yeah, this is a pretty cool game. Oh my god, that's what it is. It's a great feeling. Yeah, you're totally right. Norman Reedus was in Mimic, which Del Toro directed.
Starting point is 00:42:23 That's one of the things I've got to say. That's a bad movie. That's also, of course, Whitaker. Yeah, Del Toro hated that movie. It's one of those movies where it's a comic foreign director and they're like, do like a generic thing. He's like, no, but I want to do a weird thing.
Starting point is 00:42:34 And they're like, no, shut up. All I remember is Forrest Whitaker on the Keenan Everyway in the show, wearing his Mimic hat, giving an awful interview, trying to hype up this movie where he has no faith in it. I remember Keenan Everyway in the show. That was the first time I saw a celebrity interviewer where they're like, I've got no faith in this,
Starting point is 00:42:53 but I have to fucking, looking off camera and the agents are like, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop. You roll that fool. This movie's going to be great Forrest. Yeah. Yeah, man. So yeah, apologies to everybody. I haven't called a baby for being scared.
Starting point is 00:43:09 I'm now the biggest baby. Right on. Welcome. Commence your baby art. And now we're from our sponsors. Once again, the good old boys down at Luke Crate have decided to sponsor the Friendcast, yo. Good old boys.
Starting point is 00:43:23 They have shipped us this month's crate. Some type of crate. This mysterious box right here. Oh, there might be goodies, Liam, be careful. I hope there's nothing breakable in this box. There are better than fucking goodies in that box. Yeah, I know, that's cool. Oh, there will be, there will be.
Starting point is 00:43:35 Liam, tell us what we're looking at. Is this Hero Month? I don't know what I'm looking at. Let's look at the items and find out the theme. Groot. Which is actually really cool. That is so adorable. That is my name.
Starting point is 00:43:49 That is all cool. That name is Groot. That is on the cusp of what is hot right now. That's pretty hot. Tree men. Hot figures, group figures. Tree beard is all fucking super pissed, though. It's old news.
Starting point is 00:44:03 Yeah, with the ants in with Groot. What else we got? Raphael Ninja Turtle Glasses. Oh, oh. For pack. Pack and pack can fight over these. I'll fight over them better. I already have them.
Starting point is 00:44:15 Because I'm willing to destroy them if I don't get them. Plus I already have the actual Raph bandana because I'm the true fan. Okay, okay, so Megan Fox. These are easy to wear with style. This one's for Woolly for sure. They're wings for your shoes to make you a hero. They go in your laces.
Starting point is 00:44:31 Or it makes you really good at delivering flowers. They're lightning bolts. Okay. I'm like the flash. We got a Proto Man air freshener. What's Apple Cinnamon? Does it make you smell like Proto Man? I don't know, taste it.
Starting point is 00:44:46 No, I can't, I'll die. Okay. It's got to be heroes. It's got to be heroes. We got our little hand-made heroes. It says for sure. Heroes. Mega Man and Rocket and Cap America.
Starting point is 00:44:57 Also, as you can see, the artwork is the Ninja Turtle sewer layer. It is, yeah. So it's good guy heroes, not those shit anti-heroes. We got our little Michelangelo kid robot figure. Oh, there you go. Oh, this blows in the dark. Also, Michelangelo blows in the dark confirmed.
Starting point is 00:45:12 A Deadpool chimichangos cereal box magnet. Chimichangos. No chimichangos. Chimichangos. Oh my God, that'd be horrible. You've had chimichangos. And this comes with a download code for Gauntlet and Defense Grid the Awakening
Starting point is 00:45:28 and Doctor Who Legacy, like three games. Alrighty then. Two download codes for each of them. We need download codes badly. Who's on the heroes book cover book? It's the same guy. No, Sonic and Leonardo and Mario. And then the back is just like the pin.
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Starting point is 00:46:11 Oh. Oh. Oh. I don't think it went under the closing door. It's actually close though. It's slid and then it went to grab its hat and then the hat got crushed and his hand got crushed reaching for the hat.
Starting point is 00:46:27 You know what, there you go. Well, I'm not a hero. I'm just trying. Well, the real heroes down at Loot Crate deserve the praise today. Thanks a lot, Loot Crate. Thank you. You know, when you really think about it,
Starting point is 00:46:44 Groot's a great guy, right? Groot's a cool guy because he's a tree. Everyone loves him. And we like trees. Of course. I do. I think you like trees. Right?
Starting point is 00:46:52 Wait, I thought we hated trees. No. No, no, no. We like trees. Yeah. Of course. We like trees. But the problem comes in is when these book-making paper
Starting point is 00:47:04 use and motherfuckers destroy the trees to make these reading books. These fucking guys, Penguin and Random House, they just kick down the doors and think they can do anything to our beautiful forest? Murdering Groot every day so that you could read the thing. I was thinking long and hard about this. That's disgusting.
Starting point is 00:47:23 If you kill a human, it's called murder. But if you kill a whole forest of trees, so someone can read some shlock, how is that OK? Yeah. That's called industry. Right? A great part of the process is awful. Killing the tree?
Starting point is 00:47:38 That's bad. You ever been your paper mill? It ruins whatever town it exists in. Can you even call them towns? Hell's like shit. The sawmill. The man wants you to read. You hear that?
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Starting point is 00:48:29 Transmits into ideas. That's magic. No murder required. It's cutting out the middle man. And the middle man is the murderer man. If you're in space, it won't work. But none of you are in space right now. And I tell you what, vibrations telling me stories.
Starting point is 00:48:43 If that's not the future, get out of my face. Right? I don't even want to hear it. It's literally good vibrations. Yeah. Now you can hear these stories on all of your devices because Audible supports all of them. They're trying to feed you a fucking book into an iPad?
Starting point is 00:48:58 You can't. Doesn't work. It doesn't go. I saw someone trying to do that the other day. It was a mess. It was a mess. Just a mess. There has to be a better way.
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Starting point is 00:49:26 That's great. That's pretty good. Audible, we salute you. Thank you. American heroes. Thank you. Now, Indonesian Bob, you mean continue. We know, Bob.
Starting point is 00:49:39 We can see you. Before we even get into the stuff that's trailed off from last week, we need to get into the shit from two weeks ago that we completely fucking got. Damn, the catch-up cast. We did not talk about poke-in tournament. No, we did not. You mean Pikachu Detective.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Yeah. Wow, did you ever get blown up by that one? Well, because why? Is it because I agreed with you that we're wrong? I really wish one of us had said, maybe it might be poke-in fighters. I said, I hope. But then it was like, no, it's probably a picture.
Starting point is 00:50:13 I've been saying poke-in for ages. And I was like, stop. There's no. Well, because my reasoning was there's no. Who gives a fuck? It's here. And it looks dope. It's true.
Starting point is 00:50:21 That trailer was excellent. Is it all Hayamurata? Is it all fighting types? Yeah, not we don't know. We don't know, but probably not. I fucking wish it was all fighting types. But then I want a Snorlax in there. But I would want for the marketing
Starting point is 00:50:35 to be centered around all these B-Pokemon. And not Charizard, Pikachu, Pikachu, no, you're right. But whatever, Charizard on the box art. Like, if Lucario was the headboard and then Machamp was there as the second man. But then 50% of the roster is fighting types. That's a great compromise. Like, 50% all-star is 50% fighting types.
Starting point is 00:50:58 That's too much for me. I want 100% not all-stars. Now, you are setting yourself up for enormous. No, I already know I'm not. I already got over the disappointment of him saying the most interesting bit of news following that awesome trailer is Arcade Release. Arcade Japanese Arcade Release number one.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Right, right, right. But also, he's talking about the mechanics a little bit. And he's like, there will be no high-low game with blocking high, blocking low. So they're working on a whole other system of defense and penetration. So it seems like they want to simplify it. Blocking high and blocking really high.
Starting point is 00:51:38 Like, yeah, exactly. Raise your arms back to block overhead attacks. And we already know that there's going to be like crazy jumping type of attacks as well, right? So it's going to be a very fast and loose sort of tech and thing going on. It's going to be different, yeah. But if there's not a high-low game,
Starting point is 00:51:55 which is the really, really low-level basic fighter thing, we're going to probably see maybe a stronger throw game. Maybe faster 3D movement. Maybe some of that as well. And some theories are going on saying there might be like attack-type things where you can't block this type of attack because of the status of it.
Starting point is 00:52:15 Like some sort of something. You know what I mean? A move that flashes blue means this. A move that flashes red means that, or something like that. You just described something that reminds me of Mechanic and some other fighting game. Remember, there was something that was all colored.
Starting point is 00:52:30 I'm thinking of Fighters Destiny. Fighters Destiny had colored sparks. Remember, they had the colored sparks to let you know what type of move was being done. Beast Rider, Golden Axe, so. Oh, front. But no. Yeah, they're working on something interesting
Starting point is 00:52:47 to simplify fighting games. And I'm excited. It's like a very obvious choice for that kind of thing. Yeah. Has a broader appeal than most fighting games. I just want to take a minute to laugh at all the people out there who, when this game was first announced,
Starting point is 00:52:59 were like, oh my God, it's coming to our kids. Oh, Pokemon Company owns half of Pokemon, so this means it'll be a multi-plat game. Oh, it's not going to be exclusive to Nintendo anymore. What the fuck are you talking about? People. Literally who? People.
Starting point is 00:53:14 I can't believe that that's something that dumps in my soul. The dumbest thing ever. Do you mean people or do you mean salty fucks? I mean, probably both. But for one, saying it's not coming to Wii U is one thing, and that's also dumb. But saying it'll be multi-plat is the dumbest thing
Starting point is 00:53:30 in the world. Yeah, it'll be multi-plat between the Wii U and the 3DS. Yeah. I don't know if it'll even be on 3DS. iPads. I don't know if it'll be on the Wii U. It'll be on the Wii U. No, that's weird.
Starting point is 00:53:42 I'm not super shocked by the arcade one. Like, I know a lot of people were like, well, arcades, but Namco did both the Mario Kart racers in arcades. And they worked on the F-Zero thing for them as well. Yeah, wild arcade. No, that was Sega. No, that was Sega. You're absolutely correct.
Starting point is 00:53:55 No, it was Triforce. Yes, but Sega did the F-Zero one. That's true. Namco did Mario Kart. Mario Kart, yes. I thought they were both all three. No, Triforce was like the union of all three, but it was like Namco had their games,
Starting point is 00:54:11 Sega had their games, and it was running on Nintendo's bullshit arcade board. But it was Sega that made the cabinet for F-Zero. Oh, yeah. I'm so hyped. I'm so hyped. No, it looks fantastic. And they didn't even show the Blaziken.
Starting point is 00:54:23 Like, we know it's there. We know Blaziken's in there. We know he's going to do some Ho-Rang kicks. Right out of the frame, he's right there. Blaziken's the default stance of one leg. And the hair is just like, yeah. It's fucking Ho-Rang, man. Oh, you made it for this.
Starting point is 00:54:39 And Ed, yeah. And you know that now Harada with that on the left-hand plate and motherfucking summer lesson on the right plate, Harada is a god. He owns Japan. He is the new lord and savior, the man in the shades. I want him painted like Mao. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:00 Oh my god. Yeah, I would be down for that. Oh my, it's done. Can we get that? Can we get that right here? P4R wrote the article, but it's so true to life. Like, Japan is like, please, please don't release this game. Our country will die if you do.
Starting point is 00:55:17 I love Harada's affection. We'll have even less babies than before. I love Harada's dual affection for like cute anime girls and fighting games. And he's in the position to make both. Wearing the shirt, wearing the shirt like a boss. I just want to point out his affinity for Idolmaster shirts because he works at Namco, is the best.
Starting point is 00:55:39 And at the Xbox One launch in Japan, he was there in an Idolmaster shirt as well. He doesn't wear anything else. Someone pointed out something that I totally remembered after hearing it was, we saw Summer Lesson a while ago. We saw a clip of him and a little virtual girl thing on a screen way before. But there was nothing really to do with it.
Starting point is 00:56:00 You couldn't put it together, but we knew they were working on something. It wasn't a product, right? Yeah, it was just a test thing. And we knew there was a VR thing involved there. So this was foretold. A little bit. A little bit.
Starting point is 00:56:13 Very, very little bit, yeah. PlayStation exclusive VR life food game. Well, no, I was going to say that said it's a tech demo at TGS. So it probably will turn into a game, but that's not confirmed yet. And here's what's up. Wait, people are going to stand in line and play this in public?
Starting point is 00:56:27 They did. And they waited six hours to get to it at TGS. Well, TGS hasn't started. It's not open at all. They may have had a public demo for it at TGS on the 18th. Everybody's getting swole. I read that there was a six-hour lineup for people waiting to get to TGS to touch it.
Starting point is 00:56:45 If you only have three hands on, you might say. How many Morpheus's could they possibly have? Morphei? Morphei. I like it. Like, how many could you possibly have? It's only been six hours. Especially because you need to clean them off after that.
Starting point is 00:56:58 I heard that you can talk to a pretty boy as well. Oh, really? Switch it. Well, now I'm interested. I haven't seen any pictures to back that up, but someone was saying that. Interesting. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:57:08 Yeah, man. It's the S-link from P4 with Shu, except now it's just that as a game. But it's just Milo. Like, it's just a better version of Milo. We don't know that Milo was bad. We don't. We don't.
Starting point is 00:57:25 Well, considering it was Malinu, and the game couldn't even come out, like, I'm going to a suit. Considering they had to have a guy in a box make Milo work. I want the lovers and shit. Yeah, the cranks. Move that puppet. Remember those scars on his arm from the cranks?
Starting point is 00:57:41 I want Malinu talking about waifus. I want it. Bring it. Bring it. That said, looks neat. Yeah, so TGS. My only question about this game is, since it's VR, it's like, how creepy is this going to get?
Starting point is 00:57:57 Like, how close to creepy porn is this thing? There's already any game with a first-person perspective. Well, no, they can't do that. You know what I'm saying? It's going to be cheesecake. It's going to be enough that people are satisfied with it. You know, he said it's not porn. I'm extremely satisfied with this porn.
Starting point is 00:58:18 I consider creepy staring at waifus simulators to be creepy porn. OK. Then you're into a lot of creepy porn. If you get up on talking to girls, then it's probably the girls. Like, it's probably going to be less than this. There's an upskirt shot in that trailer for fuck's sake.
Starting point is 00:58:34 It's probably going to be less than Extreme Beach Volleyball. I don't think anything can be any more than that. But they're like the ice cream cone. Just wait until TGS proper starts. I honestly think it's going to be like a talking to this girl simulator, and that's going to be most of the appeal. Your nosebleed is going to come from your relationship.
Starting point is 00:58:52 I don't know. Not the cheesecake. I think it looks neat. Harana looks like a creepy guy. So I think he's going to work it out. I want to know how strong the AI is. You're obviously not going to break the uncanny valley because you look like a fucking anime character.
Starting point is 00:59:06 But does it convincingly have a conversation with you? Yeah, exactly. Definitely. What's that like? Please tell me about your summer lessons today. She's like, no, she is the summer lesson. Wait, what? I don't listen to this stuff.
Starting point is 00:59:18 So I don't care about this game at all. When you see it's the summer, she'll go to school. See, here's the thing. She both gives you the summer lesson and is the summer lesson. There you go. I'm nudging. You've not sold me on it.
Starting point is 00:59:34 Guess what? Me either. And nothing else of importance was announced at that show. That's moving on. Can we just talk about the course of that trailer? Oh, yeah. It started like new Morpheus project from Tekken team. And then we all perked up a little bit.
Starting point is 00:59:50 And we're like, who made the joke first? Willie said it can't possibly be girls or something. And I was like, oh, please be Idolmaster. No, please be like Dating Sim. And then Yami said, they don't have the balls. No way. Karana comes on with his Idolmaster shirt. I have the balls.
Starting point is 01:00:10 And then five seconds later, he has the balls. And I fall off the bed. Yeah, Liam fell off the bed, giggling in excitement and bleeding. Literally slapping his knees. No, I landed on my stomach. I was slapping the ground with my knee. It was so good. Yeah, that was great.
Starting point is 01:00:28 That was great. Because it was like, how could you possibly, but you just did. But you just did. But you just did. So what else happened? Oh, yeah, Harry Potter. Harry Potter. OK, what about Harry Potter?
Starting point is 01:00:39 Emancipation. Oh, what? Let's get into it. What the fuck are you talking about? P5 main character is fucking Harry Potter, man. OK, sure, whatever. I guess so. It also looks like every other anime hero ever.
Starting point is 01:00:50 You're right. His hair is curly. It looks just like Goku. But dude, dude, if you're Japanese, you need to be able to envision yourself as that guy. It's really important that he doesn't look too outlandish. That's not just if you're Jeff. That's if you're any culture.
Starting point is 01:01:03 No, that's what I think. You build your character to be bland. But I feel like Persona games, like when I looked at the other two main characters as well, it was like every one of these is. OK, but seriously, it's silent protagonist. P5 guy, almost like a physical man. Like he looks like Minato and you's love child.
Starting point is 01:01:20 Because it looks like a mix. Because Chrono is not you. You know what I mean? It's me. But like he's got crazy red spikes coming out. I used to have that before I lost him. He's also tall and tough. No, he's chippy.
Starting point is 01:01:36 He's small and sharp. Everyone's chippy in the universe. That's a great universe. But yeah, man, you throw it into high school and or what seems to possibly be college now. Yeah, university. I'm still guessing it's probably still going to be college. It's not an office, which is what you wanted.
Starting point is 01:01:56 And I would have liked that, too. That said, there could be an office character. Maybe you'll graduate and go into the later. Oh, maybe you're going part time job as Temp work. Who knows, right? That could be a whole other side of the game. But as soon as the show was done, like Pat got up and we walked over to my laptop and we're like, OK, let's do it.
Starting point is 01:02:16 Let's do it. Load it up the trailer. Scan it. Freeze frame. Not a whole lot in there. Not much to see. There's the idol girl in the background of every shot. Of all of this TVs in that large shot,
Starting point is 01:02:27 obviously, it's going to be taking place in downtown Tokyo. Like, not weird fucking weird poor island or no, but like not in not Tokyo, doing both arcs here. Not in a backwater. It's going to be like in straight up Tokyo. I think what's that? It's in Shibuya. That's the Shibuya Square.
Starting point is 01:02:46 The shine of the 108 building. You see this place. And yeah, and it seems like phones are going to be a thing. Yes. They might be evokers. Maybe. Who knows? Or maybe there'll be nothing.
Starting point is 01:02:58 Maybe. Like, you don't need, like, you know, Persona 4 didn't have evokers. They just had cards. Yeah. And like, you could just, like, maybe your, your, your, your dream of having personas just be stands is on the horizon. But there's just so much gratuitous phone usage in it.
Starting point is 01:03:14 And people are miserable looking at those phones on that trailer. Maybe it'll just be a dating sim like everyone wants from Persona 4. Maybe. That's what it is. Cut out the middle man. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:21 Me as well. Yeah. Don't save the world. Fuck that. Fuck your waifu. That's what really matters. Eyes are rolling through my head. Can we all establish how much of a hypocrite dirt bag
Starting point is 01:03:34 I am for immediately calling summer lesson creepy and then just jumping straight to waifu boning? Glad you said it. I'm glad you said it. We're all thinking it. Yeah. Well, it's not VR, so it's clean. It's not.
Starting point is 01:03:47 Sure? It's got to be clean. Shirt. It's that wig shirring. Hey. We also found out. There's a lot of other cool stuff at TGS though. Yeah, we also found out that the blood
Starting point is 01:04:01 board's coming out on February 5th in Japan. Yeah. Oh, there's one thing I wanted to say about Persona 5 before we get away from it. First of all, it's coming to PS4. Fucking thank god. Oh yeah. That's true.
Starting point is 01:04:11 That's awesome. That was awesome. That's awesome for two reasons. One, the delay means that the English release will actually be closer to the game's actual release. I'd like to think the translation isn't going to get delayed by the system delay, but the game did. So it might be almost, it might be dandy.
Starting point is 01:04:25 I doubt it, but it might be. I think it'd be dandy. It might be, but it might be like SMT-4. It's only like a month or two off. It'll be a month or two, and then two years for Europe. I'd like to think so. Or never. We stepped in at this point and said, fuck you, I don't care.
Starting point is 01:04:37 No. You're not putting this on PS3 only. Eat shit. That said, I'm not even saying this out of a place of fanboyism. I'm really surprised the original platforms weren't like PS3 Vita, considering Golden is the best selling Shin Megami Tensei game ever.
Starting point is 01:04:50 I am extremely on board with that sentiment. I'm not upset, but I was shocked. I was really shocked. It seemed like an obvious slam dunk. It was, the Golden is by far the best selling Shin Megami Tensei game. And by far the best selling game on the Vita as well. Not actually.
Starting point is 01:05:07 Really? A fastened screen is just up there. Maybe they'll just port it later. It's popular. No, and they probably will. It's a surprise. Platinum will assuredly arrive on the Vita. I'm surprised they never ported Catherine.
Starting point is 01:05:20 Yeah. Catherine's a good season one. That would be a shoo-in, but that would be good for portable play. Yeah, they should have ported the cut scenes to a TV show and then scrapped the game. Well. Fuck Catherine. No, shut up.
Starting point is 01:05:32 So we're all expecting Catherine-level. Like, that's exactly what needs to be done. Great. We're expecting the game to be Catherine-level. Like, they're getting a head start on P5 of the animation, and they're just going to put some of those in the game. Yeah. Great.
Starting point is 01:05:45 OK. Swole again. I can't wait for this game to have anti-aliasing out the ass on the PS4. On the PS3 version. On the PS4 version. Why? Anti-aliasing. For it to be gorgeous.
Starting point is 01:05:54 Oh, I completely. Yeah. I'm literally the opposite of what you said. Exactly, yeah. But I really hope that. Because it's going to be a PS2 game that looks like a PS3 game on the PS4. No, I think it'll be better looking than Catherine. Yeah, but you know what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:06:11 I know what you mean. But like, so you know what I mean, Liam? I know what you mean. Yeah. You know what I mean? I want to know. Everyone in my life is doing that to me. Perfect.
Starting point is 01:06:20 You deserve this. Everyone. Then maybe you should drop your friends. I should drop you. I want to know if when you're walking across that fucking giant intersection, if you can talk to everyone. No, well, I mean. No, well, I mean.
Starting point is 01:06:34 Probably not, but that'd be neat for sure. They just had like 2,000 lines, just fucking randomize that. Yeah, because they're people. They've got the tech. Well, I'm interested to see if the world can be traveled more, like Shin Megami Tensei games, whereas Personas just like leave the area, pick a place to go. SMT in most other games has an overworld where you move around it.
Starting point is 01:06:59 Granted, it's like a really simplified one. But I really hope Persona 5 is the first game out of the full 3D world. From a gameplay perspective, I'm really interested in getting to play one for the first time with all the fusion shit fixed. And also, there was a huge improvement from Tartarus' dungeon. Sorry, P1 to P2 to P3 to P4. The dungeons all like streamlining up better. And P4's dungeons are way better than P3's dungeons.
Starting point is 01:07:22 So hopefully, they'll still be random, but a little more. I mean, I understand. And make the mistake, like it's going to be overwhelming with features. You're not going to have this ability. Creep on SMT in Persona games is absurd at this point. I expect double of Golden's content, like in terms of options. It might be a lot. An activity.
Starting point is 01:07:43 Double is a lot. I would say equal to Golden's content. But more of it is better than more of Golden's content. More in-depth. Yeah. Yeah. One or the other. It's bug catching.
Starting point is 01:07:53 I do hope the dungeons and combat system are better, though. Like, because those were the weak points of P4. And like, those are really the things that keep me from saying, like it's the best game ever. Because, like, boy, those dungeons are bad. I like them. But like, they're not great, you know? Anyway.
Starting point is 01:08:09 But yeah. And then, like I said, Bloodborne was confirmed for that date. Well, Bloodborne. Nice to know. Nice to know. May the US date follow. Oh, I think it'll be really close, if not day and date, I think. Sony further Japanese games is pretty good.
Starting point is 01:08:27 They usually get it out within, like, six months or so. And also, with the kind of games that the Souls series and Bloodborne are, I cannot see a dramatic, like, localization task at hand. I would think no later than May. Yeah. May, June. But I'm thinking February. It's possible.
Starting point is 01:08:43 Depends on what's possible. Or whatever the equivalent release date on Tuesday is. But hey, nice and early. That's good. Absolutely. So we got different pieces of news coming in. One of the big ones was. Give us some news.
Starting point is 01:08:58 President of ESPN. Did you catch this? Yeah. Yeah. E-Sports aren't sports. They may have sports in the title, but they're not sports. But they're not sports. Well, I was like, OK.
Starting point is 01:09:08 And then he said something. And I was like, hmm. He said, they're competitions. Yeah. And I was like, I'll agree with that. Except chess is a competition. No. Chess by the International Olympic Committee is designated as a sport.
Starting point is 01:09:19 I know. And what I was going to say is, like, and I'm like, it feels right with the classification. But then it's like also the government recognizes these are sports. So, yeah, you know, it's kind of been something. You're on a team. You're trying to win.
Starting point is 01:09:35 You're on a sport. I really hate one of these articles, which are ESPN says esports is not a sport when it's just one deluded president. Well, he's the president, though. But I know. If anyone speaks for ESPN. It's the fucking president. I get that.
Starting point is 01:09:51 But there's still a difference there. It's like America. It wasn't their spokesperson. It's an old guy who doesn't get it. Also, it's there's a lot of stuff. Sorry, but he does because they just broadcast Dota. He didn't say to do that, I betcha. Someone on their team.
Starting point is 01:10:05 Exactly. I bet it wasn't the hand of the old man's nose. I was reading how someone was theorizing that they're super, like, unhappy about the popularity of esports. Because I bet they are. Old guard going, no, no one's watching our sweaty man sports. Well, I mean, watch this. Sweaty nerds play Dota all day.
Starting point is 01:10:23 That's lame. Let's just try to bury this, like, triple H. Well, they did air East, like, eat Dota. No, no, they did. On ESPN3. But did you catch the context for why this quote even came out? It was because of the buy on a Twitch. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:10:38 So someone asked them, more or less, going, why didn't you do this type of thing? And it was more or less like, that's why he was saying, like, I don't think it's sports, but it did not. This is not the first time that ESPN or other big sports figures have been said this stuff is stupid. Stop it. But if they did make that acquisition and or at the very
Starting point is 01:10:56 least, like, support it. You too might have changed. Yes, too would have changed. I got to say, maybe I'm just an asshole, but this whole fucking sports not sports discussion about esports, I just want to be on the opposite side of whoever I'm talking to. If I'm talking to a guy who's not fucking sports,
Starting point is 01:11:13 who's fucking bullshit, like, oh, man, it's such sports, you don't even get it. But I'm talking to someone who's like, no, man, I'm an athlete. Like, oh, no, it's not a real sporting man. No, you want to be contrived. It's so stupid. It's the stupidest distinction ever. I agree with you.
Starting point is 01:11:27 It gives me pleasure to make people be upset. If someone ever told me they were a game athlete, I'd say, fuck you. Because I agree with that. That's a distinction. That's not a thing. That's basically what I'm going for. I like the term mind sports.
Starting point is 01:11:42 Yeah. That's cool. I mean, for a while, the FGC has been very vehemently, we are not esports, to the point where esports is a punchline. Yeah, exactly. Take that Zod off, skis on it. But ultimately, what they really are implying or getting at is we're not esports culture, right?
Starting point is 01:12:03 The game is the game. A fighting game can fit right into this. Mortal Kombat was at MLG. But it's just we are not part of the culture of it. Swords are weird and bland. But they're making a lot of money, and there's more people watching Twitch than there are watching NBA last year.
Starting point is 01:12:22 Because people who watch those kinds of sports and don't know about video games are 90 years old and they die every year. Yeah. Numbers and numbers. Yep. Yes. Money's going to.
Starting point is 01:12:31 You know what baby boomers love? Football, baseball, hockey, basketball. And not Dota. And not Dota. You know what the kids like? I don't know. It's been a fair amount of time. That's what we ate.
Starting point is 01:12:43 Dota is some of it. Dota's a thing, I guess. Did you go to the section of packs which is just a gigantic league of legends? It was huge, isn't it? It was just big and everything else. And the Twitch area was massive. And there was a moment where Liam and I looked over at a screen
Starting point is 01:13:02 and I said, what is that league? And Liam just looked at the ground and said, I don't fucking know. And you know what? You can't watch the NBA and suddenly have a SWAT team rush the court and pin down one of the players. But in eSports, you can totally do that. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:13:19 If you're watching someone stream, you can totally have a fucking SWAT team call in. It makes it more exciting. It's the worst, man. Have you seen that, dude? What specifically? Dude gets raided by SWAT team on camera on Twitch. It's fucking terrible.
Starting point is 01:13:34 It's insane. It's so insane. Whoever did that, fuck you. If you're listening, actually fuck you. I can't believe that happened. Don't make them mad. They might do it to us. It's happened multiple times.
Starting point is 01:13:48 It's fucking terrible. It's disgusting. Well, it's going to be really hard to call SWAT on us, Liam. Yeah, it is. We're safe. That's not a dare. Mid-Neslok. Fucking get on the ground.
Starting point is 01:14:02 So bad. No. Get us back all you son of a bitch. You know what would be more like, hey, you guys. What are you guys doing? You playing video games? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, sorry.
Starting point is 01:14:11 Sorry to bother you. Sorry. Yeah, OK. See, hey, have some later, Dudley. I'd really like to know what cop you know from our city talks like that. The Mounties. Yeah, apparently we all talk like that.
Starting point is 01:14:23 I can't hear it, but fuck it. Nothing wrong about it. Yeah, no, it's all fine. Sorry, everybody. Sorry, yeah. And while we're talking about high money power transactions and such. High money power transactions?
Starting point is 01:14:36 Actions, yeah. Is this a different podcast now? Well, hey, should we get George Kramer on here or the fuck that's got Jim Kramer? Jim Kramer. The money, you gotta follow it. I'm always wrong. What is that, Michael Packard?
Starting point is 01:14:51 Mad money. No, it's Jim Kramer. No, I know. I'm just saying because you said I'm always wrong. The FTC forces Google to refund $19 million to unintentional in-app purchases. Awesome. Budget kids that bought in-app purchases on games
Starting point is 01:15:06 that didn't have sufficient warning or barriers in place to stop that from happening, Google had to refund. Which means Google's going to be like, hey, guys, fucking stop it because we have to pay for it. This is the beginning of the path to change. Yes. Because in Europe, they can't say free when it's got in-app purchases anymore.
Starting point is 01:15:26 It's happening. Which is fantastic. It's happening. And the FTC all get our Ron Paul gifts out right now. Yeah, there you go. It's happening. And no, and I'm really happy that the FTC straight up was just like, no, unacceptable.
Starting point is 01:15:39 That's bullshit. You know what? And fuck you. Give them back the money. $19 million. That's like $3. Does that have any number of transactions tied to it? It's transactions going back to 2011.
Starting point is 01:15:52 OK, is there any number attached to it? Like how many transactions? OK, but a fuck lot evidently. That's $19 million in microtransactions. Yeah, exactly. That's sick. You get it? Some of the microtransactions are $100.
Starting point is 01:16:05 Yes, but that's still a fuck lot of $100. Sure, sure. That's awesome. I'm sure quite a bit of that money is going back to the United Arab Emirates, where a couple of the whales over there that funded a call a lot of these games are going to get their money back. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:16:23 But yeah, no, man, you've got to make it like a product. And in particular. Hey, guess what, make a video game. Or a useful program, or a program that plays video games. It shoots out farts, like whatever. That's better. It's better. A silver dollar.
Starting point is 01:16:40 Get Malinu to review it. It's true. For all the shit silver dollar does, at least they deliver a video game. It's a shit video game. The worst video game. But at least it's a complete product. If they had a Kickstarter, you could back that.
Starting point is 01:16:54 If they had a Kickstarter, I'd put it in the win. What the shit we can't take back? Let's all get crazy here. Well, speaking of kickstarters, under the dog passed. Yay. Everyone said it couldn't do it. And it did it. It was asking for a lot of money.
Starting point is 01:17:10 I saw it passed. And then like 20 minutes later, I got an email. Wooly Madden is back under the dog. And I'm like, you should've backed it before that. I did it. I did it. You had to wait for it to succeed to back it. What is this?
Starting point is 01:17:21 Slacker-backer bullshit. Slacker-backer bullshit. And now they want to get to the, what is it, six or eight mil stretch goal to make it a movie? Jeez. No. They kind of just said, hopefully we can get there. But it was failing at 60 hours left.
Starting point is 01:17:35 It's already done. It's already done. No. I'm so glad these guys have been successful between Project Phoenix and this. That's a lot of talent getting a lot of cool work. And I really hope they can build off of that. I'm not going to lie.
Starting point is 01:17:48 There was a name on the credit list that I missed the first time around that made a big difference for me. Well, good. Fucking 999 guy. OK. I feel his fucking name. Zero scape guy.
Starting point is 01:18:04 I didn't catch that he was involved. He's there. He's there. I was like, oh. Everyone's there. Everyone is around this table dancing for you. May this 24 minutes be the most god-like 24 minutes in a long time.
Starting point is 01:18:17 It's probably going to turn into a bigger thing, because they've mentioned how they got offers to continue it, but they want to own the brand and stuff, so they have to start it themselves. The campaign towards the end was really interesting, because it was like save anime back this project. This is the thing that I hate anime. I better back this.
Starting point is 01:18:37 It was hyperbolic, but it was like, oh, it's a dying medium. And it's not if you look at the couple of seasons of shit that's coming out. No, it is a dying medium. Holy shit. But there's still been quite a few things coming out. Yeah, the art quality is pathetic. I guess it's gone way down the street.
Starting point is 01:18:54 It has lost so much. It's such a shame. I think. Go watch Tokyo Godfathers and just come back to life. Yes. Yes. Do it. The thing is, is that no one, you, just do that.
Starting point is 01:19:07 Tell me what anime today is that we're near as good. The movie I own? I mean, watch it again and come back and have this conversation. To remind you. A big part of the problem, of course, is that no one wants to make the short, high-budget thing. Well, the money's not that much. They want to stretch it across 52 episodes
Starting point is 01:19:22 like fucking beautiful Joe. Which is why this is a good thing, you know? Yeah. Let's see where this goes, because that teaser looked fucking awesome. Yeah. And we said we were going to talk about that new 3DS, right? Yeah, so it's called the new 3DS. I want to point out a couple of things.
Starting point is 01:19:38 One, what a terrible name. Can they name anything well or anything? No one can name anything well. Dude, they're looking at the graphs and they're like, it works for Mario. And this thing is old and a new version comes out. It will be the most confusing shit ever. Once again, it works for Mario, so whatever.
Starting point is 01:19:57 What's going to, what is the new 2DS going to be called? It's just not going to be this. It's not going to not. Just a lot of fuckers. Like when you, it's like you make a 2DS, you throw one on extra thumbstick on it and some extra, like what are you just not going to do? Also, it didn't really take you this many revisions
Starting point is 01:20:11 to finally get the revision into it, that everyone asked for since the very first day the product existed. It should have taken the whole revision. Wait, wait, why? No, not the 3D. A second stick. So are you complaining about the thing you wanted all along?
Starting point is 01:20:26 No. You literally are complaining about the thing you wanted. I wanted this 2DS revision to go. Guess what? You can have it soon. Guess what? I can't, so you can have it next year? Next year?
Starting point is 01:20:36 Soon. So I want to point out that I'm really bummed about a thing surrounding the new 3DS. Is it the Smash thing? Is that thing a huge bummer? No, it's not that. So in Japan, they're getting a fancy pants new 3DS XL that Smash Bros. branded and it's beautiful,
Starting point is 01:20:53 just like the Monster Hunter one. Here, they just announced after that that, hey, we're getting the Smash 3DS XL. I don't want the Smash 3DS XL, not my own 3DS. I want the new Smash 3DS. I want that one. And barring that, I'm not going to buy a new 3DS XL
Starting point is 01:21:08 when the new 3DS XL is already on the horizon. See how confusing this shit is? It is a little bit more than I formerly thought. And the bummer that I want to talk about is the Smash thing in which I have two CirclePad Pros, one for the 3DS and one for the XL. And they have straight out said that Smash will not support the CirclePad Pro, but will support the new 3DS's controls.
Starting point is 01:21:33 So the CirclePad Pro is now officially a piece of garbage that is used. But you hated it and never used it. I used it a lot and hated it. Also, this good thing. They should still offer support. They're literally taking support out. You switch it to CirclePad Pro mode
Starting point is 01:21:51 and but the CirclePad Pro won't work, it's bullshit. They should continue support for products they put out and people might not. No one had it. It was a huge flop. We don't even know the name. There's no numbers. No one had it.
Starting point is 01:22:04 Every monster hunter has it. He was the only person who had it. Everyone who bought Monster Hunter has it. Every single person. I bought it from Retinable, but yeah, exactly. The most frustrating thing about the name like dumb thing is the fact that the nomenclature exists already and they could have called it the 3DSI.
Starting point is 01:22:21 And everyone would have got it. Well, the whole plan is when people don't like new 3DS, they'll go back to old 3DS. 3DS Classic. 3DS Classic. New code. And everyone will buy in. Get rid of that.
Starting point is 01:22:32 You didn't need that second stick. You didn't want that second stick. So fucking stupid. 3DS Classic. So when the kid says dad, buy me the new 3DS, he goes, okay, he goes and he buys the new 3DS. But he's like, no, that's not the new 3DS. That's just a new 3DS.
Starting point is 01:22:48 That's just a 3DS that's new. Yeah. So forgive me for breaking the moment, but I think it looks great. It looks great. Good job. Yeah, I knew you'd buy one. Totally.
Starting point is 01:22:57 Oh, you're right. I watched that reveal trailer like it does in times because it looks like a sexy little thing and it has everything that I've ever wanted. Because I feel like unless I said that, we'd all move on to the next thing. No, no, I had stuff to say. Okay.
Starting point is 01:23:09 I'm excited to see some like new 3DS games that are made for the new 3DS, such as Xenoblade. Yeah. And I want to see. Such as Resident Evil Revelations too. I want to see how far they go with that. Yeah. I mean, it's nice that Nintendo's not just fucking
Starting point is 01:23:23 sitting back and being like, like, well, I can't. No, what I also wanted to say is like, I'm not sure about cutting the market like that. Like splitting the market like that. It's always introducing new shit. They did it with the Game Boy Color, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:36 And in the same situation. But the color, the color had, it had some life. It had some life. Oh, it did. No, it's great. You know what I mean? Game Boy Color. I loved it.
Starting point is 01:23:45 The games weren't like sent out to die. No, I just mean whenever you do it, there's a certain risk attached. The DSi, there was nothing for it. I'll agree that like, it should have been the regular 3DS and then it should have been two years and then this one should have come out.
Starting point is 01:23:58 Yeah. There will definitely be like games that work on the old one that will continue to come out. Oh, I'm doubting that. I'm not saying they're gonna cut off support. Honestly, it's always a risk to me. This is a weird thing because I'm looking at it from an incredibly, incredibly narrow point of view
Starting point is 01:24:12 and which I don't give a shit about anything other than now I can be hyped at that Monster Hunter again. Sure. Like that's literally it. Hey, did you see the Monster Hunter Special Edition for North America? I was literally looking at it on my phone
Starting point is 01:24:22 during the last conversation. I was gonna say. It looks fucking hot. It's pretty much what you want. It looks fucking hot. I'll tell you what the Nintendo sucks at is not giving us that fucking Bayo II Special Edition that Europe gets.
Starting point is 01:24:31 It has the angel book. Okay. So that was next on the duck. Okay, wow. I actually, for once, I looked at it and I was like, you know what? I can live without this. This book.
Starting point is 01:24:41 I can't. Well, you can order it then. I'm gonna. Okay. Gonna show you. Shut up, Leo. Two of them solved. Bayo II has three editions coming out.
Starting point is 01:24:51 They've got the Solus Edition, which is the standard game. They've got. They create a name for this shit edition. They've got the Special Edition, which is two boxes of part one, Bayo I and Bayo II. And then they've got the limited, what's it called?
Starting point is 01:25:08 The limited something edition. And it's like the fucking book that introduces the enemies to you. The game is inside of that and there's an art book attached to it. Now, I always have a beef with those game-sized art books that in Europe, like it's a fucking art book. It's gotta be.
Starting point is 01:25:24 But the box? The box is bigger. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's Zoey limited edition. Oh, wait, no it is. I didn't get that from the photos at all. It's a big box standing next to the game. Then that's, I'll buy it.
Starting point is 01:25:36 But who cares about that shit? Playable road day. Playable road day. Yeah, okay, so Bayo direct. Also playable road day. Bayo direct happened. Yeah, it did. And I was gonna say that was telling to Willie,
Starting point is 01:25:45 it's like every time a tree house people came up, I just fast forwarded it. But then Willie was like, no, they're talking about legit shit. I was like, because it was like that you fast forward it until you land the cursor lands on someone going, yeah, no, I found out about dodge offset combos.
Starting point is 01:26:00 And I was like, what? They actually know? Like they're talking about this? Okay, the guy with curly hair in that. He was the guy who demoed Bayo too. So yeah, I had a really weird- And he's fucking knows. I had a really, really weird moment where I was,
Starting point is 01:26:14 so I'm not good with people that give demos because I don't even fuck about them. So when I went up to the Bayo 2 demo and the guy's talking to me, I'm like, no, no, I got it, man, I got it. At Pax already through. At Pax. And it's like, no, it's cool, I get it, I get it.
Starting point is 01:26:27 All right, thanks, thanks, no, I get it, I get it. And I just clearly don't want to talk to him. Then he passes off and a newcomer comes up and I'm watching this direct and the fucking guy comes up and he's like, I work for Treehouse, I know tons about Bayonetta, I'm working on Bayonetta, I'm like, oh shit, oh crap, I gotta ask them real questions.
Starting point is 01:26:46 I just thought he's one of those schmucks that they hire to just demo the game. Wait, the guy? The guy with the curly hair was the guy that was next to you? Yes. Oh, wow. That's what I just said.
Starting point is 01:26:58 That's what you're talking about. Oh, shit. No, sorry, I didn't connect that. It's okay, it's okay. It's like, because I'm so used to, I tried back in the day, I was like, well, what about this game? The guy goes, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:27:08 All the Nintendo guys at Pax were in point. Well, all the Nintendo people at E3 didn't know what the fuck they were doing. No, no, no, no, the lady I got at the Bayon booth when I played didn't really know. Yeah, and the second guy that came to my point didn't know either. So, she knew the basics of how to get through the demo,
Starting point is 01:27:25 but any questions about Bayo went to Bayotou stuff? Sure, sure. I'm sorry. I was like, no, that's fine. But yeah, that was a weird asshole moment for me. Whoopsie. Yeah, that Bayo direct, it was all right. So playable, man.
Starting point is 01:27:37 The trailer at the end was the best thing by far. No, the fucking reveal of the Fox costume is the best thing. That was pretty cool. Oh, the Fox costume. I fucking love that. That's my favorite. I didn't like it as much as other directs, but it was all right.
Starting point is 01:27:49 What else did we have? It was just talking about how the on-out Bayo plays. The online only co-op. I can't wait for the game, but there wasn't a ton of new. I was salivating the whole time. It's just footage. Just footage, exactly. Footage porn.
Starting point is 01:28:01 Looks really good, yep. Can't wait for the game, but I won't play it. Also, the Lumen sage talked, and I don't like his voice. Yeah, guess what? Did you watch the Japanese trailer? No. You know who he is in Japanese? No.
Starting point is 01:28:15 It's Dio. Oh! That's cool. Really? Yeah. Speaking to Makasu? Yeah, switch those voices. Yeah, you can switch the voices.
Starting point is 01:28:23 Yeah, but I don't want to play it. Bayo Japanese sounds like garbage. I can't do that. I can't do that to her. She sounds terrible, Japanese. Oh, it's really sad. It'll affect my performance. I find it weird that now you have two characters.
Starting point is 01:28:37 You have Loki and Luca. Yeah, you do, don't you? I don't find that a weird lie. Yeah, I just realized I didn't catch that. And yeah, Luca's cooler now, because he's fucking better. Be buying that now. He's going to be terrible. He's going to win the Zorky.
Starting point is 01:28:51 Yeah, no, that would be better if he tries to be cool. And he's like, I'm cool, but he's still like the worst. Yes, Justin. He's just Bayonetta's trophy boy. Enzo's cooler getting his dick almost mashed into Jean's tires. Yeah, that's true. Stricts up on him, loves it. Man, that's trailer.
Starting point is 01:29:07 I remember when the direct was finishing up, and it says like 24 minutes. And they're like, thank you for enjoying this Bayonetta direct. I'm like, what? Six minutes left. The trailer was like six minutes long. Yeah, the wonderful one on one one was like seven minutes.
Starting point is 01:29:22 Yeah, so they got a penchant for that. I love her Sunday hat. Just put it on. Yeah, it's a costume. Looks fantastic. So, you know, Bayonetta continues to excite that trailer. Did you read about how when you're playing as Foxnetta, and then when she has like her gun.
Starting point is 01:29:38 When she starts with the guns. No, when she targets people, it makes the walk on sound from Star Fox. That is the icon too, this one. Yeah, the icons. It's sick. It's pretty cool. So that's going on.
Starting point is 01:29:49 Also, we got a bit of news about Hyrule Warriors. Not much, but it was just apparently when this game was on the table, originally getting pitched. They're just pitching it across the table. That's how you want to do this. Well, they brought it to Nintendo and basically had an idea that was way more Zelda-esque. Integrated, right?
Starting point is 01:30:10 There was actual dungeon crawling. We want to make a Zelda that has Dynasty Warrior elements. Exactly. So there was dungeon crawling and some platforming and puzzle solving, and then you had these crazy big fights. And then Miyamoto was like, fuck that shit. You make a Dynasty Warriors game and insert Zelda into it. And you stay away from my baby.
Starting point is 01:30:27 I think you want to sell the most units in Japan. That's probably what you want to do. And well, Miyamoto was right. I appreciate Miyamoto for not giving us what would have been that. Yeah, no, of course. I would probably put the latter. But definitely, though, considering there's a new proper game in the works.
Starting point is 01:30:44 I like that this is a game. Oh, sure. But I would have loved a new Zelda adventure just by a different team. Would have been like, hey, something, you know? Would they call it an extreme name, or would they, you know? I mean, it could be just as much of a spin-off. Well, I mean, why not?
Starting point is 01:31:00 Zelda Strike Force. Yeah, there you go. Either way, I would be down for that. They've got another team working on, I keep saying Dragon Warrior, because that's what I played as a dragon quest. I'm going to say that forever. It's baked into me. I can't get away with it.
Starting point is 01:31:14 Jeez, guy. Yeah, they've got Dragon Quest heroes. I know. But the only one I played was Dragon Warrior. There's only one out here. The fucking PS2 game is just called Dragon Quest. Dragon Quest 8? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:29 It's like, it's day stops. I mean, can you show the number at the end of that? Yeah, I know. I know. It's like, they can get it together. This week in our completely unnecessary news segment. That's right. It is totally unnecessary.
Starting point is 01:31:44 I don't know what it is. That's how unnecessary it is. The Shadow of the Colossus movie is still happening. It's still being penned by the guy who wrote Hanna. And it's now being directed by the guy who directed Mama. Oh, right. Yeah, Mama's a scary band. Andres, Kateryne, Moushetti, Andre, Moushetti.
Starting point is 01:32:08 Deltoro wrote the original short, Mama. And then if you watch that short, you're like, wow, this is PT. This is just PT, yeah. So there's a 2013, I guess, version. And that was done by this guy, Andre Moushetti. Well, there's nothing that will never come out is having staff change around there. And it seems like the main reason why this happened
Starting point is 01:32:32 is because the original guy that was going to do it, Jashtrank, is now on Star Wars. And Fantastic Four. I literally cannot have any less faith in this ever coming out in any form. Especially that it's Shadow of the Colossus. With some other property, I'd have a little more. No, I feel like it's going to happen,
Starting point is 01:32:51 and it's just going to be out to nothing. Just make a fucking animated movie. Just see it and animate whatever. Is it at least so many pictures doing it? I don't know if it's under that umbrella. Because if it's not under them, then I'm like, look. I don't think it is, but I'm not positive, so I'm going to poke me on it.
Starting point is 01:33:05 Because if it's them, it's like, OK, they'll want to fight for that too. I feel like it's going to come out like the second Silent Hill movie came out that's just going to be like, no one even knows this is out or exists. Wait, when did that happen? Because you've seen it, Zellers. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:20 Yeah. This is what I feel. Telling you my feelings, everyone. Other horror things going on, they're remaking Pathologic. Yes. It's kind of a kickstarter going right now. And this was interesting, because a lot of people
Starting point is 01:33:33 sent this my way, and I checked out the trailer for it, and I was like, oh, this sounds like an interesting kind of concept, like the enemy you're fighting is a plague, and you're a plague doctor, and so on and so forth. And then they're like, yeah, they're remaking Pathologic. And it's like, cool. What's Pathologic? IPC game.
Starting point is 01:33:49 I don't know it. That's Jankin' Busted. I don't know it at all. Do you know anything about it? That's pretty much it. It's an old Jankin' Busted great PC game. I don't know anything about it. I'm familiar with the name, but likewise in the news,
Starting point is 01:34:01 we didn't talk about this, but Atari or Infogrames, as we know them, just came out of nowhere and said, yeah, I knew Alone in the Dark, and Haunted House is coming out next month. I wish you were going to say they were bankrupt. So I knew it's called Alone in the Dark Illumination, and there's a scary trailer, and apparently a procedural generated multiplayer thing.
Starting point is 01:34:20 That sounds interesting. You have a flashlight, and you show a monster, and the monster blows up. Where's the camera? I looked like a first person. OK. But the trailer was like a CG promo trailer, so it could actually be third.
Starting point is 01:34:33 And Haunted House is an old Atari game that was basic shapes, and then there was a new version released a few years ago for the kids, and now this is one where it's one of those first person click pixel on the things. And Atari just coming out of nowhere saying, yeah, we're still got a pulse. Got a pulse.
Starting point is 01:34:54 Swinging with a blindfold on. Using someone else's name. You can't kill us yet. Not over yet. As they manipulate the dead body of the Atari, exactly. God. Bushnell! No.
Starting point is 01:35:10 He's dead. We kill dead bushnells. Yes. Even though he's dead, but I'd pay for that. Hey, man, if you can take a picture of some mountain, and then go, hey, look, we're Sierra. Look, we're Sierra, you guys. That sounds good.
Starting point is 01:35:25 Or take a picture of a planet, say we're universal. Look. Don't you recognize it? Are you fooled? Anyway, we're almost fooled, me idiot. Man, you know what's cool? No. Way forward.
Starting point is 01:35:43 Yeah, pretty cool. Yeah, agreeable. Way forward's pretty cool. Way forward can be pretty cool. Yep. Yacht Club's really cool. Yacht Club's really cool. But way forward still is pretty cool.
Starting point is 01:35:51 Hey, let's just, let's just, because I noticed this in the comments, and people actually think that Yacht Club were being dicks to us in the Pax Prime video. Oh, my god, no. And I wrote a couple of comments saying, no, no, no. It was a joke. You set it up with those.
Starting point is 01:36:05 I told them to just sandbag it. We're going to walk up to the desk and go, yeah, club. And they're just going to be like, yeah, man, what's up? I just said, we're going to be like, oh. That was intentional. Yes. Some people got it, but some other people were like, wow, I'm not going to buy their games because they're such dicks.
Starting point is 01:36:20 No. What you missed was the moment the camera stopped, we all yucked it up. Yeah, yeah. Buy their games. Buy multiple copies of Shovel Knight. I literally went down, plopped money on the desk, and said, give me one of everything.
Starting point is 01:36:32 Yeah, I got a bunch of stuff, too. I saw your bag, yes. And then they spit on it. Yeah, rubbed it in real good. Just took a dump in my bag. Just like you wanted. Dude, and the coffee was just hanging out, and I'm like, yo, there's Vert.
Starting point is 01:36:45 Yeah. What's up? So back to Way Forward, though. Way Forward is making the, Way Forward is saving Ninja Turtles because they're making a new Ninja Turtles game based on, The Nickelodeon Awesome Cartoon. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:00 The good thing. Yeah. Yeah. They resisted the temptation. For 360 PS. I don't think it was that cool. No, not Way Forward themselves, but the people. Activision, I would assume.
Starting point is 01:37:10 The people that have the license or whatever were like, they got that going, not the stupid movie. So it's 360 PS3, I think, PC and 3DS. Yeah. And as of this afternoon, we now have the news, it's a Metroidvania. It's a Metroidvania where you can switch out any turtle at any time.
Starting point is 01:37:29 It's not multiplayer, but whatever. It's Metroidvania. It's done and fucking done, man. Hopefully it's good. That's a pedigree I love. That's a formula that can work. That's a pedigree I love 50% of the time. So I am cautiously optimistic.
Starting point is 01:37:41 You know what? You know what? You know what? You're right. Yeah. I am cautiously optimistic, but I felt really burned by Adventure Time, so. Which one?
Starting point is 01:37:50 Yeah. We still have to try the new one. We still want to try. The new one's under a different publisher, so we'll see if that'll make any difference. Do we? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:59 No, man. I like the words put on this paper. Yes. The words are appealing. The good Ninja Turtles, the Metroidvania. I'm not sure about the Subtile Ninja Turtles. The danger of the ooze is a little weird. It's not a secret anymore.
Starting point is 01:38:12 Yeah, it's not a secret. It's the danger of it. It's dangerous. Mr. Cal is the final boss. As long as they're pushing ooze, I'm happy with it. As long as anyone pushes ooze. Yeah. Remember that time I sent you a picture of a canister of ooze,
Starting point is 01:38:23 just because? Yeah, I think he did. I still don't understand why, but... Because I thought it was the coolest fucking toy. Okay. Wouldn't you want a canister of ooze? That'd be pretty good. Yeah, well, they sell it.
Starting point is 01:38:33 Go buy it. I think Liam and I can interject with similar news that another great little developer in next-level games, who made Punch Out, were working on a Metroid that Nintendo asked them to shelve it and work on Luigi's Mansion instead for a bit. So, there's art that they did of several bosses and a really cool Samus design.
Starting point is 01:38:55 Okay, because I want to say I saw that Samus design and I said, thank God they didn't fix this. I liked it. I know they showed a picture. I need this right now. Just put Metroid next-level. What am I Googling? Metroid next-level games.
Starting point is 01:39:07 I know a lot of people liked it, but a lot of people also didn't like it, because it was really divisive. Either way, yeah. It's different. It's different, but I don't know if it's... And it was unclear. It's unclear if it was going to be side-scrolling or Metroid Prime Hunter's thing.
Starting point is 01:39:22 It's concept art, but the artist confirmed that, yes, he doesn't work there anymore, but we were working on a Metroid title. But I'd like to think... Oh, wow. Pretty... This is a very different art style. I didn't like it as far as my Metroid goes.
Starting point is 01:39:38 It looks good, but... No, here's what's up. I'm down with everything but the helmet. I think her body's too squat. Put it in the description in case people haven't seen it. Because her legs are longer than the entire rest of her body. I've gotten to the description picture, because I don't know what the fuck you're looking at.
Starting point is 01:39:56 Just get up and walk over here. Take your stupid glasses off. So this is what's up. Okay. It's a dumb-looking Metroid thing. Who cares? Well, people that love Metroid do. Okay.
Starting point is 01:40:12 All right. We're rolling. We're rolling. We're rolling. But then again, it's still concept art. Hold on. I guess that means... So with that in mind,
Starting point is 01:40:21 what would you see to get fully sold? I'd need to see other characters. You'd also need to actually see an actual in-game representation. Exactly. Exactly. But that being said, Next Level fucking nailed Punch-Out.
Starting point is 01:40:33 Next Level does really well when Nintendo's behind them. When they don't have Nintendo behind them, they've made some crappy, schlocky games. You need me about it to come down on the huffs. I'd discreet at you for an hour. To be very upset.
Starting point is 01:40:44 He's very upset. I have a table flipping appointment across their whole office in an hour. He flips every dance while they're out for lunch. But I'd like to... What happened? It must have been me and Moto. But I'd like to...
Starting point is 01:40:57 Damn it. Our game's better now. Since Luigi's Mansion, Dark Moon has been completed. Maybe they're back to work on it because they have nothing to announce. I'm sure they're on something. But it would be very weird
Starting point is 01:41:05 for them to... It'd be good with that new hardware revision of the 3DS. It's the artist. It's the artist. And his portfolio. No matter what works there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:13 Okay. That's how the word... The grim... Concept Dark Moon for Strider. Final Fantasy and Strider. Strider and Final Fantasy. And all the other projects that never happened.
Starting point is 01:41:25 Yeah, that happens straight away. Concerning them coming back, they're for sure going to be back. Luigi's Mansion, Dark Moon, was a huge success. Sold really well in Japan, too. Huge success. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:41:34 Yeah. Daigo did an AMA, you guys. I saw. I saw. Straight up? Yeah. From Page of Reddit. Ask me anything.
Starting point is 01:41:43 A better-than-new-it-fighting game. Not any more, though. Okay, cool. Yeah, I know. So everyone's like, oh, let's get a wooly question and I want to find it. I was like, guys,
Starting point is 01:41:51 it's fucking Daigo, man. Did you answer the wooly question? No, of course not. It's like, who am I? Well, Z might know you. Z does. But not Daigo. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:41:59 He's like, oh, that guy that played Blanka, I humbled him. The dude actually that works with the Blank. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:07 Yeah. The dude actually that works with Z that's like behind the camera a lot of the time, he's the guy that we're really cool with. Right, right. But anyway,
Starting point is 01:42:15 more importantly than that, bullshit, it was just a random AMA, you know, whatever. There was one great question in particular where someone was like,
Starting point is 01:42:24 if Ryu was a real person, would you kiss him on the mouth? And Daigo replies and goes, no, I would watch him from a distance. Are you serious? Too strong. That's great.
Starting point is 01:42:35 That feels like we wrote that answer for him. I know. I know. He's like, no, man, I'd watch him from a distance. You're like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:43 That's awesome. Always, always running behind Ryu. He knows. He knows exactly where he fits into the anime world. That was, that was a fun little bit.
Starting point is 01:42:54 And of course, my favorite headline this week, it's so good. Gearbox says, we do what the fuck we want. We want, according to Sega. Sweet what? Randy Pitchford does whatever
Starting point is 01:43:13 the fuck he likes. This is real. This is real? This is real. Give me some more. You got it. You got to read it. Okay.
Starting point is 01:43:22 Trip feed us this. All right. So as you know, as you know, Gearbox and Sega, not on the best terms right now. One with all that allegations of money theft.
Starting point is 01:43:30 And giant lawsuit going on, right? I didn't even know about the lawsuit. There's a giant lawsuit going on over Aliens Colonial Marines. I bet. And basically,
Starting point is 01:43:42 when there was a giant interview, Polygon talked to some dudes from Sega and so on. And what we found out was a big part of some of the problem and where the money that they're trying to account for and shit.
Starting point is 01:43:54 Like a big part of the fuck up here was Gearbox put out PR for Aliens way before it was ever supposed to. It never got the green light to do any of that stuff. Oh, really? And when Sega inquired
Starting point is 01:44:10 to find out what's going on, why are you talking about this? Why is this public? The answer they were giving was Randy Pitchford does whatever the fuck you like. I don't think that's real. He's a magician.
Starting point is 01:44:23 You know, I know you're reading it, but I feel that someone like blew that up. I feel like that's the most real thing I've ever heard. Sega PR manager Matt Iyer said he confronted Gearbox about the leaks
Starting point is 01:44:36 and was told they were the result of Pitchford doing whatever the fuck he wants. In quotation marks. So that's great. And all I can think of is like, well, we passed by him and passed. I felt that the way he was walking down
Starting point is 01:44:51 the street like gave the impression that he was doing what the fuck he wanted. He walked by some time and was like, yeah, some guy stopped and was like, hey, Randy, he's like, hey, how's it going, how's it going, man, how's it going? He's going to my talk. I'm going to have a good time.
Starting point is 01:45:04 And it's all smiles. You want some Sega money, kid? I stole it from Sonic. It was in his shoes. Now, granted, these are all allegations. These are allegations. But I am very willing to believe that they fucked up on Colonial
Starting point is 01:45:21 Reigns and it's all their fault. Yeah. And Gearbox is saying it's a frivolous suit because Sega was responsible entirely for marketing, so anything we did doesn't even count or whatever. Whatever, man. Even if they're completely in the right,
Starting point is 01:45:36 they should still get sued for what a piece of shit they put out. Like, that's how I see it. Well, the thing is that that's part of the big problem is the fact that... You know what they didn't steal from Sega? I feel like they stole from me. Because part of the problem is that
Starting point is 01:45:51 all the trailers and all the stuff that came out pre-release showed one thing and what everyone got was something completely fucking different. Like, every other Aliens game has been on a lower budget and possibly isolation is on a lower budget.
Starting point is 01:46:04 I'd say. But they are all better by far. All of them. Even the really bad ones. I really feel that with this lawsuit is being brought to a judge, the judge is just like Fred Durst and he's like,
Starting point is 01:46:15 all this he said, she said, bullshit. Bullshit. Yeah. But no, I'm just trying to... Takes out a shaved sod and cuts through Randy Pitcher. But like, it's nuts
Starting point is 01:46:25 because that's going on between them and they're pointing fingers at each other. Meanwhile, a class action lawsuit is happening from the public against them as well. Against your false advertising. False advertising against Sega. And the advertising standards agency in the UK is like, you did not deliver.
Starting point is 01:46:42 The UK is really adamant about that. What you said you were going to deliver. UK is super pissed. We showed us one thing and gave us another and that's not okay. You know, it's why they talk like that. No, they should be happy because they get the best chocolate.
Starting point is 01:46:54 Don't worry about doing so much. Yo, I found out why I'm here. I saw. I saw that. So let's break that open right here. In the mail bag, we received a few American Kit Kats and within a bite,
Starting point is 01:47:05 I proclaimed them fucking gutter trash. And they were like, why? And then I found out just the other day that American Kit Kats are made by Hershey's whereas the rest of the world... Remember, this isn't us. Hershey, hey! We'll calm down you,
Starting point is 01:47:21 especially Shane from Screenwave when we went to Magfest. He was on this on the ball back then. He was like, it's made by Hershey and the best chocolate maker, Nestle, makes them everywhere else. So that's why the American ones are garbage. We were too busy laughing at him for not stopping.
Starting point is 01:47:38 And he invited everyone up to his room for like a taste test. A taste test. It's true. Honestly, other than Hershey's... Shane was the whistleblower. He was the whistleblower. Our American friends and listeners and viewers,
Starting point is 01:47:50 you want a good Kit Kat? Go to Canada. It's the only thing we can do. Go to anywhere else in the world. Well, yeah, Canada's usually closer. Canada's usually closer than anywhere else in the world. So this confirms Hershey better than Nestle. No, Nestle better than Hershey.
Starting point is 01:48:02 Oh, the other way around? Hershey is the gutter trashiest fucking chocolate company in the world. Oh, it's the other way. It's Nestle that makes the good ones. Yes. They make... Nestle makes fine chocolate. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:12 But it's all garbage when you get down to it. Yeah. It's all great. Chocolate's not. It's linked. Also, America does not the fucking cream of the crop. Also, America does not have coffee crisp or any coffee crisp product. What is that bullshit?
Starting point is 01:48:28 They don't have the coffee crisp ice cream. They don't have the bites. They don't have anything. When I talk to machinima guys, they're like, what's coffee crisp? I'm like, coffee crisp. They're like... Come on. No, and I'm like, coffee crisp.
Starting point is 01:48:38 I'm going to rip up our contract. So I feel bad for America now. I have to fight for them. Well, we'll do what we can. We'll do what we can. We'll just airdrop a bunch of kickheads. And European chocolate. And coffee crisp.
Starting point is 01:48:52 Yeah. And... We're not going to do that. No. The last bit we're getting is the Smash Final Build demo in Japan. Some people got some hands-on. Yeah. And they're doing...
Starting point is 01:49:06 Stole some illicit pictures. Good job, guys. Yeah. Well, apparently they're insanely strict about all that footage. Exactly. So they shut down everybody. But we're getting the bullet form notes. Details.
Starting point is 01:49:16 We're also getting Treehouse's streaming Smash 3DS all day on the 15th of this month. Cool. Which coincides with a Nico Nico stream for Japan. There you go. Show us all the secret characters. Now. So what's nice is there is a bunch of info on costumes and stuff. Fucking Link has a fierce...
Starting point is 01:49:38 Yeah, I knew it. I said as soon as I saw that, I'm like, well, he's going to fucking not do the podcast. Just masturbate all day. That's me in the Orton pose. That's me with the Legend Killer pose. But also Samus having the light suit and all his other suits. Samus gets the light suit. I was blowing up when I saw Alphas in it.
Starting point is 01:49:54 Remember Alph? He's back. Come on, boy. Which costume? He's in the same screenshot as the fierce deity one. Which costume is it? It's the Alt for Olimar. Alph is one of the three captains from Pikmin 3.
Starting point is 01:50:06 Okay. Oh, I thought he meant Alph. I thought he meant Alph. He's back in the form of Pogs. He's back in the form of Smash. Yeah. I imagine himself as a child. He just eats cats?
Starting point is 01:50:18 Yeah, he does. This game has a budget smaller than an episode of Alph. There was a Fox in the Cloud wolf color. Yeah, so wolf. Probably not in there. Not in there. Wolf super-deconfirmed at this point. I don't mind, I guess.
Starting point is 01:50:33 Even though I do. I'm bummed that Link's white, puce costume is gone, because that was my favorite one. He's got a purple one now, but I like that one. Diety motherfucker. Diety. Diety. Yeah, we've been arguing about words for a while. He's always wrong.
Starting point is 01:50:49 It's fine. It's fine, isn't it? Covetiousness. We all know what you're talking about. All right. But yeah, there's some gameplay details besides the costumes and stuff. One of the interesting ones, which I didn't notice at the little two, three games we got to play, is apparently ledge grabbing is way different now in terms of how much the snap
Starting point is 01:51:10 is way lower. The snap range is way lower. That's been out for a while, but absolutely. Yeah, so it's closer to melee now, and you can't just do an edge grab, like let go, re-grab thing anymore at all. Not as much. You can still do it with, like I experimented a little bit. Some characters, you can still do it.
Starting point is 01:51:25 Characters like Marth, where they do a flip in the air, you have to wait for the flip to finish. Flip to the flip to finish. So it varies by character, at least in the build I played, so. That re-fucking instates my fears of all that crazy, dangerous play, where you have to confirm the kill by jumping off-screen to spike and then flying back. I'm like, I'm not going to grab the edge. I'm too scared.
Starting point is 01:51:45 How do you play it? I'm too scared, and now I'm triple-scared. Yeah, and just a bunch of stuff like Diddy Kong goes one banana, like the other. If you try to throw one banana here. And I hate fucking Diddy Kong in a game. Marth seemingly nerfed a bit. I love Diddy Kong, but I hate the way he plays this match. I want Marth to be nerfed, just so I have to stop seeing Marth in the game, every single
Starting point is 01:52:03 game I ever play. Yeah. Yeah, but like. Putting Crom. He's fucking, ugh. He's in the wind pose of, um. Fuck you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:14 Robin. You did this. I'm refused. You didn't support Fire Emblem. So I'm sick of Marth. Sure. Yeah, and then, you know, and a couple of other little bits and pieces. Pac-Man is apparently super slow.
Starting point is 01:52:26 Yeah, that's cool. As he should be. Right? Pac-Man's having some problems. Someone's got to be down there with, like, Bowser's fast. Imagine, imagine the trailer and she shows Pac-Man and the cutaway says, Pac-Man's having some problems. Like, it makes, like, I like the selection of heavy characters in this game, where like
Starting point is 01:52:44 Ganondorf obviously, Bowser's a bit quicker, Rosalina's a heavy character, Pac-Man's a heavy character. Why is Rosalina a heavy character? Look at her. She's huge and she's made of the galaxy. But she's not. Under her dress is the galaxy. Are you giving me a real answer?
Starting point is 01:52:57 She's a heavy character. She's talking about her ass? What are you doing? Like, why? Because the galaxy goes for light years. It's literally space. It's a measure of distance. Look at those asteroids.
Starting point is 01:53:10 Oh, come on, let's get out of this. Yeah, she's having it. Why? Let's run. Women can't be mad. When she doesn't like, she's not fat princess from PlayStation All-Star is that okay? She has all of space under her dress. All right, whatever.
Starting point is 01:53:25 Is that canon? No. Look under her dress. It looks like space. That we're going to get out of here. Letter time is going to save us. Letter time. Tell me how much you have space in your pants.
Starting point is 01:53:36 How much space? For letters specifically. You send that to superbestfriendcast.gmail.com. What was that, Patrick? Don't call me Patrick. That's superbestfriendcast.gmail.com. Good job, Patrick. You guys are cunts.
Starting point is 01:53:52 The more you say I hate it, guess what the fuck's going on. Are we fucking six years old? That's why we got here. What are we fucking six years old as he adjusts his red plastic Raphael glasses? Fair enough. He's been wearing the entire podcast. The entire podcast. And he refused to look him in the face as a result.
Starting point is 01:54:13 Well, you know, you never do. It was too handsome. It's true. I don't feel like turning to stone. Is that how you get to... Oh, fuck you. I put it on. I'm wearing the glasses.
Starting point is 01:54:25 You looked right at him. I'm wearing the glasses. What's the question? Ben wants to know... Hey, Ben. Hey, Ben. See ya. See ya.
Starting point is 01:54:35 I've never... I've never personally cared that much for fighters. And the only one series I played more than a few hours of is Soul Calibur. But I noticed that a lot of fighter aficionados don't really talk about it that often. Is there a reason for the lack of popularity? Why don't people care about Soul Calibur? Everybody on Soul Calibur 1. Everyone on Soul Calibur 2.
Starting point is 01:54:54 I think it's just not as current as far as big FGC things blowing up go. I think it's also because the releases are spaced out, but when the Star Wars characters hit, all you would hear about is Soul Calibur all day. There is a totally big FGC following better stuff than Soul Calibur, but it's mostly... I'm playing 3 and 4 for being bad. Here's what's up. It's mostly in Europe, particularly France. Europeans love that. There's a giant following over there.
Starting point is 01:55:24 Makes sense. They love it. They got swords. And souls. They love it. That's all I can say. That's it. That's it.
Starting point is 01:55:32 K.O.F. loves... Mexico and Mexico loves K.O.F. Plus, I think... And like E.T.A.R.D. is South America as well, right? Yeah. Everything south of the Mexican border is just K.O.F. land. And the reason why is because those arcade machines were like a peso to K.O.F. Plus, I think Namco is the unique position of being the only company that is actively pushing
Starting point is 01:55:52 two fighting games series, and they clearly push Tekken way more. That gets much more budget in terms of marketing and everything. Definitely. Because we know what happened to Soul Calibur 5. Are they just siphoning money away from the project? Yeah. Excuse me. As far as like single-player content goes.
Starting point is 01:56:09 Well, yeah. Which sucks. That said, Tekken is their money maker relative to Soul Calibur. That always happens. Wait for the motherfucking summer lesson, bitches! No, no, but I mean, relative. They have bigger money makers than either of those. Summer lesson is going to change the company.
Starting point is 01:56:25 But what completely blows the world? It's not just like, oh, Namco announced a summer lesson. It's Tekken team. Tekken team, yeah. Announced a summer lesson specifically. It's great. Check out these sick combos you can do on your summer lesson. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:37 No juggle hurt for days. High five. Oh. Tim Tam Zimzam. Nice name. Nice name. He says that I recently purchased a revengeant soundtrack and my mind was blown when I recognized the name attached to the vocal tracks for collective consciousness and it had to be this way.
Starting point is 01:56:54 Because it turns out I used to live next to the guy and I went to school with his daughter. Was he super fucking metal? Oh, son rather. Was he like just screaming power ballads out his window all day, every day? That's awesome. Have you ever discovered a similarly unknown personal connection with something crazy like this? The guy in this city with my name that does a similar thing. That's true.
Starting point is 01:57:17 The Patrick Wovey filmmaker that does acclimation stuff. That's weird. I'm probably related to him. I guess it was like neat that it's like, hey, I went, I had that entire stupid stress management course with Jay Bereshell. Yeah. For an entire semester. And then it's like, you know, he kind of dropped off the map for a little bit.
Starting point is 01:57:36 Then all of a sudden got the best agent in the world and started beating it almost everything. Well, like, no. Like his talent company was my brother's talent company. They're amazing. They're super good. So how'd you end up here? Me and my brothers, not mine. Well, clearly they pushed one guy.
Starting point is 01:57:52 You should have fucking gone and worked for that one. No, my brother was doing work, but then guess what found him? Uh-oh. Yeah, okay. Exactly. Yeah. The Jesus. That's what's up.
Starting point is 01:58:03 Yeah, I'm saying it. They were supposed to go down to LA together with the third guy and all do audition, audition summer and it fucking, ah, anyway. You could have had a rich brother. Could have happened. Could have happened. That's why. My cousin is like, he's like, I was so ready to grab those coattails.
Starting point is 01:58:22 I was grabbing my hands together in preparation to grab them. And then they just dropped. Oh, too bad. I didn't know them personally, but I believe his name is Ivan Dorischuk, the singer from Men Without Hats. What? He was- Safety dance?
Starting point is 01:58:41 Yes. My mom was friends with his wife. And in a Rundle, the tiny, tiny, tiny town I came from, one of the guys who made IMAX lives there. And he's like super rich and shit. Does this like end with you having accidentally creating safety dance? Of course, yeah. That's older than I am, I think.
Starting point is 01:59:03 Matt, I went to high school with Barry Harowitz. Who? Who? Jobber, wrestler. Oh, Jesus. What a half years ago. Jobber that got an accidental push. Not.
Starting point is 01:59:15 Accidental push. I don't know how old this is now. No, a bit like- Can't be far off. No, no, no, no. He wasn't in my class. Yeah. He went to my school.
Starting point is 01:59:25 Okay. Well, that, wow. Yeah, this one's like great. Uh, we got one coming in from Riley. Yo, Riley. Non-stop receding hairline. Oh. I'm 23 and I've already begun balding.
Starting point is 01:59:38 How do I survive the mental anguish that comes with early onset hairline recessions? Shave it. All of it. All of it. Dude, we're saving it really short. No, shut up. That's bad advice. Sit on the microwave until your jeans change.
Starting point is 01:59:49 Okay, no. Okay. Good. Okay. That will surely work, Matt. There's the two tricks. Matt decides to wear hats. I try and, I try and either cut it short or give up.
Starting point is 02:00:04 I say- Just give up on everything. I say everyone that has it visible, just go clean. Go pick hard on it, man. Just do it respectable and nice and everyone's like, that's what you got. You need to be Lex Luthor. I don't want to go full bald. Mr. Clean.
Starting point is 02:00:19 Or buy an obnoxious wig that's clearly not your hair. I like- Like a big afro or dreadlocks. I like being in ginger too much to go like Chrome Dome. I can't do it. There's so many benefits. Nah. But you could wear hats.
Starting point is 02:00:32 Hats are good. I don't like hats. No, not you. Oh, yeah. Mr. Baldin. You know what? Is this sent by Dave Lane? What's the name of the guy that said this?
Starting point is 02:00:42 Oh, I moved on. Oh. Well, there's a subset of chicks out there that just love bald heads. Riley. So find them. Riley. They don't feel better. I can confirm this.
Starting point is 02:00:54 Yeah. All those girls being like, all this dreads. Couldn't it just be bald? Couldn't it just be that thing? No, but no. But I have friends that just get off on it. They love the bald. I've heard of this.
Starting point is 02:01:05 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I've heard of this. What do we got? No, because sometimes the name it sends from is not the name they sign. That's right. The name they sign is the one they want me to use. That's right.
Starting point is 02:01:21 So this one's from Annie Ominous. Yeah. Annie Ominous says, hey, Demi Scrubb, God, this is my favorite MK characters, Liu Kang, and way back in the day, I remember you guys. Yeah. That's what I've said to that. I remember you guys talking about being in episode two of Attack on Titan, a bridge, the TFS parody.
Starting point is 02:01:40 Yeah. Since the project's been scrapped. That's right. Can you guys reveal any of the jokes or lines or what you were going to voice? Did it even get to that point? No, I don't think we ever got them. That being said, we had the pleasure of talking with them a lot over the weekend, and I got to hear a really choice joke from that fucking episode, too.
Starting point is 02:02:02 Yeah, it was pretty fun. Well, and it was that going to get dark. It was great. Great. Too bad it'll never exist. You've got to go ask him. Yeah. That's all he can do for you, man.
Starting point is 02:02:11 We got one coming in from Paul. Yeah. That's marketing. This question came up while I was playing UMVC3. I really dig Nova because of how he played and how awesome he looked in some ways, but I have no idea who the fuck he is. Yeah, that happens a lot. Other than in this specific game.
Starting point is 02:02:26 I'm sure this problem has come up in a lot of crossover games more than anything else. Do you have any characters like that? Saki from Tetsunoko Berserker. Yeah, I didn't know the fuck that was. He said I can already guess Liam's would be Schumagorath. No, I knew that one, actually. You know Schumagorath? You know Schumagorath?
Starting point is 02:02:43 Yeah. Mine is obscure as fuck, but in this old SNK fighting game with Guy Tendo in it, which is called Buriti One. Yeah, here we go. It's the grappler-backy fighting game. His rival is this badass dude called Rob Python. No, that's a good name. And his design, if you Google him, is basically like two-pack cross UFC fighter Kevin Randleman.
Starting point is 02:03:08 Okay. It's fucking dope. And I'm like, oh my god, I want to know everything about this guy, but I can never find out. Well, I have an answer that is gigantic in comparison to all of yours, assuredly. There's also a dramatic source of shame for me. And it's when CBS 2 came out, it was the entire SNK side of that roster. Oh my god. Where I was like, wow, these guys are awesome.
Starting point is 02:03:36 Did I just miss everything? Everything, and the answer is yes. I did just miss everything. Every single thing. Every single thing. Yeah. All right. Also, rent a hero from fighting Mega Max.
Starting point is 02:03:46 Yeah. I don't know who the fuck rent a hero is, but he's cool. Matt? I can't really think of anyone off the bat, but like, no, he has to come back to me. He'll come back to me. All right. We'll never get that answer. Matt knows every fighting game character.
Starting point is 02:04:02 It's gone. Yeah. Also, for the record, Nova. Yeah? Because comics are, I don't know. Nova's awesome. I looked him up and I was like, this is dumb. Power of the Nova Force.
Starting point is 02:04:12 Yeah. Iron Fist. You got halfway through Googling his name and saying, fuck this, this isn't worth it. Yeah. Oh, it's from a comic? Ew. Oh, god. You mean this isn't a Capcom game?
Starting point is 02:04:23 Yeah. Iron Fist and Luke Cage. I honestly would rather, like, I kind of pretend that the characters that I wasn't familiar with otherwise that are from Marvel are just Capcom characters I don't know about. I remember they're making a Netflix show of those two guys. Yeah, I remember. And Power Man's Wife as well. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:42 John says, what do you think is better for the industry? Long-running series that changes it up every installment, giving unique settings and mechanics like Assassin's Creed? Well, those don't change mechanics. That's debatable. Or original IP that functions well but has no new ideas like the evil within? I think the first one's better for the industry. I think they're both better for the industry.
Starting point is 02:05:05 That said, like, a healthy combination is required or I will hate the industry. You're right. Yeah, because I guess, like, Assassin's Creed isn't the best example you could pick there but what I'm trying to say is matured idea that introduces, no, no. Matured idea that introduces nothing new. Yeah. Or new little tidbits that are not going to be functional but it's still fresh. Yeah, you need both.
Starting point is 02:05:31 Neither by themselves is good. I would throw myself out of the window if the industry was almost all born to the other. Yeah. You know, like, saying everything's new IP would be great and all but, like, it's so rare that you get a new IP that's a mega-hit. And that's new. And, you know, when you really get down to it, like, Destiny is going to be a mega-hit and it's a new IP but it's not going to be a new IP for the 10 sequels.
Starting point is 02:05:51 Nope. You know, like, a healthy combination is, like, needed kind of. That comes out, like, seven. Or else you just, yeah. Sorry? That comes out, like, two tonight. It's already up if you have an X-Bone. Or if you live in New Zealand.
Starting point is 02:06:03 Well, yeah, you change your fucking time to New Zealand. Oh, you Kiwi bastards. Yeah. You're catching up with two of the Australians. Yeah. They don't like to hear that. And it's also very rare that a game comes out and, like, gets it in one take that the sequel couldn't possibly, like, deliver upon.
Starting point is 02:06:21 Yeah, absolutely. That first game is garbage. Like, they made a P4G to a P4, right? Well, P4 was goddamn amazing. And I grabbed that Bayo 2 demo kiosk, like, what's going to be new? And then you came away going, oh. Over-the-climax. That's right.
Starting point is 02:06:39 They added something, and it totally fucking juices them. A lot of people out there, like, trash talk, like, sequels and stuff, but, like, I have never met a person who doesn't love the only medium. Yeah, it's interesting because in games, games are the only medium in which the sequel is routinely better than the prequel. Like, movies, like, the sequel is almost assuredly going to be worse. You're right. Why the farm, man?
Starting point is 02:06:59 Ricks is surely going to be worse, except in the rare cases of, like, serialized stuff, like, Sherlock Holmes. Or, yeah, if they're intended to be a series. TV show sequels? Yeah. That's what I say. But video game sequels, because of the way iteration works, because it's about game mechanics.
Starting point is 02:07:14 Yeah, exactly. Then, yeah, it's just more time in the oven. It's not 100%, but usually that's... It's like, a lot of people think Darksiders 2 is worse than the first one because it's a very different game than the first one. And I don't enjoy that different game as much as I enjoy the other different games. Whereas other mediums only have to worry about quality of story telling. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:33 That being said, I wish there were more, like, spinoffs. I love spinoffs. Yeah, I also love spinoffs. Spinoffs are super fun. I fucking can't, like, Iba's a... But I love the idea of Iba. I love the premise. Good examples.
Starting point is 02:07:46 I hate Dead Island, but I'm just looking at Escape Dead Island because it's not Dead Island, but it's Dead Island. Yeah, I know. That's a cool thing. That's a cool thing. Like, you want to hate Bloodline Betrayal, but you can't. Sure. Because it actually plays decently.
Starting point is 02:08:00 You know what I mean? I mean, Blood Rain. What did I say? Bloodline. Whoops. Blood Rain. And I'm, like, confused. Is that a game that I didn't...
Starting point is 02:08:10 No, no, no, no. Blood Rain, Blood Rain. That's correct. We got one coming in from John, who wants to know, there's a lot of instances of reviewers praising something that's crap, hence, like, the IGN 10-on-10 joke. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Hey, hey, guys.
Starting point is 02:08:27 Hold on for a second. Does anyone want an ice-cold Mountain Dew? Yes. I don't have any. You don't have any left? Because we drank them all. Because they're so delicious. Dude to do.
Starting point is 02:08:37 Where are you going? I downed it with some Doritos. That wasn't even IGN, though. Wasn't it? No, it was Jeff Keely. No, it was also IGN. Oh, really? I mean...
Starting point is 02:08:47 I just wanted to say it. You know, do you know IGN still runs ads on their website? Yeah, I do. Well, you know, letting it work. It's true. I mean, like, let's be real, like Mountain Dew's taste. I'm asking reviews, embarrassing. That's all I have to say.
Starting point is 02:08:59 Anyway. Go on. Is there an instance you can think of the opposite situation, where something that was really creative and innovative was panned by critics? Matt, you want to talk about Jim Sterling for a bit? There's so much of... Like, the first thing my brain does... ...immediately.
Starting point is 02:09:18 Right? You can also go to Jim Sterling. I think Near. Yeah, Jim Sterling gave, I believe, a 4 out of 10 for Vanquish. Vanquish. Also Kid Icarus. Which is... Really?
Starting point is 02:09:30 Holy shit. Are you, I believe, the shooter of the generation? Also Assassin's Creed II. Yeah, it was Mechleroy. Mechleroy at... What the fuck was it? Joystick that gave Near that? Like, scathing review that was not...
Starting point is 02:09:42 Well, it's Near's Metascore. Near's Metascore is, like, 60. Yeah. I'm not even referring to the specific fishing review. Yeah, of course, yeah. Which I think was Mechleroy. Because he didn't know how to... And he didn't beat the camp.
Starting point is 02:09:52 Yeah. He couldn't beat the fishing thing two hours in. And I leave the games medium, and I think of movies as well. Motherfucking Boondock Saints was panned when it first came out. But there's a thing for that. That means it's a cult movie. People find the movie later. Yeah, but the initial release was nothing.
Starting point is 02:10:12 Oh, yeah. I don't know, man. What was it? Daily Premonition is the epitome of something that got panned almost everywhere, but Destructoid and Jim Sterling, who gave it a perfect 10 out of 10. And he was right. He was right. Well, one of the things that always bugs me, and a lot of people talk about this,
Starting point is 02:10:30 who really like handheld games, is the handheld tax on reviews. Yeah. Or if your game is not a first-party Nintendo game on a handheld, you're not getting a score near, like, an 8. What is that? The handheld tax. People talk about that. I've never heard that.
Starting point is 02:10:43 I've also never heard that. What you see a review for a good shooting, a good, sorry, not shooting, a good handheld game come out, and it's just, like, 6. Soul Sacrifice, 5. Just because it's portable. Killzone, Mercenary, 7. Those games deserve those scores. Soul Sacrifice deserves a 5.
Starting point is 02:10:58 Delta deserves, like, an 8, but they were all deserves a 5. He's a Google handheld tax. People talk about the handheld tax. Yeah, those days, attorney games always got horrible reviews. Yeah. I mean, you know, it exists. This is by fitting every one of your criteria. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 02:11:11 Well, because you fucking gave, like... No, that was sarcastic. I know that was a fantastic review. Pat, I know it was sarcastic. You evidently don't know what I'm saying, but I'm not making a shit up. I do, I just disagree with you. Okay, but I'm not...
Starting point is 02:11:21 No, but he's not... I'm not making... You know, I'm answering the question. He said he didn't invent it. That's a facet. Yeah, I have heard of that. I'll look that up, because I can believe that. A lot of people just...
Starting point is 02:11:30 Also, just because, I guess, visual fidelity and a couple other things are always going to... And the controls are always going to suck. General dismissiveness, because it's not, you know... It's not allowing you as much as the console or PC is. Exactly. Well, handheld games aren't as good as console games. Or PC games.
Starting point is 02:11:45 That's, like, what are you even saying? I'm saying they're not as good. What are you even talking about? The same thing would be always be better with better controls and better artwork. In the rare exceptions of games that have touch screen controls that are specific to a theater. Fire Emblem.
Starting point is 02:12:00 Yeah. How would that be better? Like, what do you... Well, it would look better and it would control better. It wouldn't control better. It's a grid. How about we move on to the next question? Because this is going to go on all day.
Starting point is 02:12:10 This is going to go on, actually. Also, IGN Italy is hilarious, because you'll see a game at IGN get a bad review, and then IGN Italy will give it a good review. Like, soccer games. Like, soccer games. What was the recent thing? Like, wonderful 101 and Killzone Mercenary. Really? Seriously?
Starting point is 02:12:25 Where they got great reviews at IGN Italy, and they got... Well, 1-1-1 got a good review at IGN, but not... Okay. Not deserved. I've been talking about this recently, actually. I can't, Italy. They know what's up. They were like, fuck this.
Starting point is 02:12:39 I can't read their reviews, but they know what's up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got one coming in from the Michael. The Michael. And the Michael wants to know, what is your all-time favorite gaming device to physically insert a video game into? Oh!
Starting point is 02:12:55 The NES. The NES is way up there. I'm trying to think if there's anything... I like the stupid Nintendo because of the button that'll slam and then have the cartridge see how euphoric you get the cartridge to shoot out. The NES push and slide is a really satisfying feeling. I like the full feedback thing from the NES,
Starting point is 02:13:12 where you open, insert, push down, blow it with power, take out, blow, put back in. It sounds like a good sequence of events. It's a ritual. Absolutely. Pull it in, put it down, blow it, push it back in. I'm a huge fan of both the PlayStation ones. Originals, not the Slim, but just the top loader
Starting point is 02:13:37 with the spindle. I love that. I really liked the NES, but I prefer the N64 to that because you have to fucking jam that shit in there. It felt very secure. The first time I put a disc into a Wii, that was cool.
Starting point is 02:13:54 I really enjoyed that. No, the first time you put a GD ROM into a Wii and you're like, how is it going? It knows. And it centers itself. It's amazing. Yeah. That's a really good feeling.
Starting point is 02:14:09 I got to admit. Also, like... You know what doesn't feel good? Original Xbox. The tray just comes sliding out. You put the game in and then you get nothing. It's a PC, man. It's a PC coffee holder.
Starting point is 02:14:21 It's a one-way street relationship. Putting in a rumble pack into the back of the N64 controller, putting in a VMU and a Dreamcast. I like that. The Wonderswan is a really good cartridge design. It has nothing to do with the things you don't like, but you're like, fucking it's the Dreamcast. No, I just said, I don't really care for the...
Starting point is 02:14:40 Either. The N64, I don't like putting something in the controller. Oh, I enjoyed that. I agree with you. I agree with you. I don't like the controller. It doesn't destroy it for me, but I'm just like...
Starting point is 02:14:51 I like the Wonderswan cartridges. They have these little rails on the sides. You put them in and you see the whole label. There's no plastic in front of the label. But because of the rails on the side of the cartridges, it can't flip out or anything. It's locked. Doesn't that let dust hit the connectors?
Starting point is 02:15:06 They're really nasty? Not really. Well, everyone came with a plastic case. Okay. Every game came with a plastic case. I'll show you if you don't know specifically. It's actually really cool. We're going to take one from...
Starting point is 02:15:23 The Fred. Manuel. What's up, man? Manuel. This is an interesting question, because I think we've talked about this off-podcast a couple of times, a while ago. I've got a lot of flak from others
Starting point is 02:15:36 for being too critical of anime. Even when shows are very fun to watch, I don't let that skew my opinion on whether or not the show was well-written or worth watching. However, what irks me is a response I typically get in that you can't critique anime as you would other shows or, I guess, mediums, since anime is not to be taken too seriously.
Starting point is 02:15:53 It's just for fun. That's fucking awesome. I'd like to hear your opinion on the narrative. The bottle to his criticism is fucking shit. It's garbage. There's no excuse for shit-writing, no matter what your medium is, because you can just be a good writer.
Starting point is 02:16:07 The end. The only way that argument works is if you're reading a book and you're like, oh, my chair doesn't rumble. That's the only time where you can't review it the same way. Every medium can have integrity. Every medium can have excellent direction. Every medium can go through high art steps. Anime as a medium only has trivial differences
Starting point is 02:16:29 to live action. It's still directing. The difference is you're drawing it instead of filming it. Writing still applies. Seeing composition still applies. You can just do different things with varying success. Perfect Blue. Perfect Blue is, this is a live action movie.
Starting point is 02:16:45 You know what? At the last second, I want it to be animated. Okay, done. Change nothing. Same movie. Fine. If there's no excuse for saying, the medium is inherently shittier,
Starting point is 02:16:56 therefore give it a chance. Unless it's funny. I watch a lot of shittier anime, and I know I watch a lot of shittier anime. And you enjoy it, or it's shittier. Both anime or now is shit, but I'm not going to say you can't treat it the same way. No.
Starting point is 02:17:11 Lower your expectations. To me, anime is no different than what's on network TV. It goes in like, hey, there just happens to be a bunch of good things on this year. Then you go through three, four, five. You go through a month of shit. And like that just goes in ways. It just depends who's making what. Exactly.
Starting point is 02:17:30 You know, manga, comic books, especially comic books, you can see throughout the years examples of hack, bullshit, and examples of genius, like literary classics. It depends who gets hired, who gets what, who gets an opportunity to work on those. Exactly. If it's creative, if it's art, and if it's coming from someone's vision, it should be all held to the same standard.
Starting point is 02:17:52 It's not all solid gold like our show. Yeah. Yeah, it's like, yeah. Well, literally talking to someone, man, your channel's been shit for the last two weeks, and I was like, I know, right? Please enjoy it. It's going to get, there's lots of fun stuff,
Starting point is 02:18:05 but yeah, this week's a transitional period. I'm like, rolling your head. Oh, man. Get me away from this interview. Going out with a bang. Mark wants to know if you had to choose one, one finishing move from a character that has to kill you. Pain is nothing to fear in this situation.
Starting point is 02:18:22 Pain is nothing to fear. What would the move be? So the most metal way to get kicked, killed by someone's special move. Special move. It's Noob Saipat's wishbone. Oh my god. So you want the metalness of that happening,
Starting point is 02:18:36 but you don't have to go through the pain. The pain is no object, it's fucking radical. I get hit by, I get hit by raging storm. I would do, I would do Hotaru. That's a slow death. Hotaru from Garo. Oh, come on. Just fucking tackle and help me to death.
Starting point is 02:18:54 That's not bad. That's a good pick. I still think like the, you know, 100 fist crack is like the best. Because like seeing that in first person, like your head's flying all over the place and as the veins pop up, you're like, this is awesome. Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 02:19:10 Well, you're in Killer Inc. 2 and you're Gargoss and someone does the Ultra Combo and knocks you off and then Gargoss's music is playing and then you fall down into an FMV and then it explodes. Supreme victory. Yeah. That one's specific. That's pretty good.
Starting point is 02:19:27 That's pretty good. Quinn says, have you ever had that moment where you were blinded by buyer's remorse and a soljet or something of a terrible game and then you just get this horrible gut wrenching realization that what you've been actually enjoying is the worst garbage ever?
Starting point is 02:19:45 No, never. I got buyer's remorse when I bought Watch Dogs. Yeah, I got buyer's remorse for that, but I wasn't into it. Wait, did you ever go into something to join in that exact thing? No, there's something that I played where I was like, oh, this is really fun.
Starting point is 02:20:02 And then after like 10 minutes, I was like, oh, wait, no. I've never had a patreous social space talk moment. Adventure time. Patrice, any of these? Yeah, man. Adventure time? By way of force. Oh, I thought you meant the show.
Starting point is 02:20:13 Where I got into that and I was like, yeah, that's all right. And then I really didn't like it at all at all. I can't tell myself into liking things. Or like changing my mind afterwards. Like, I've bought bad games and not enjoyed them, but never for any price that matters to me. And I've had moments of like, I beat something as time goes, my reflection loosens on it.
Starting point is 02:20:38 Like, I guess the closest thing would be Bioshock Infinite, where going through it, it was a strong start. And then I got to the end of that and I was like, all right, yeah, all right. Yeah, but that's because that game starts well and ends poorly. And as I got further out from it, I was thinking about it and I was like, ah, you know. But I still don't hate it as much as you guys do.
Starting point is 02:21:00 I don't hate it. I just utterly disappointed me too. It's not really sobering, but that's the best we can get, man. Yeah, sorry about that. Let's see. We'll take one from James. All right. Jem is.
Starting point is 02:21:20 Can I call him Jimmy Jams? Yes, you can. It says right there. Okay, Jimmy Jams, what do you got? My wife and I got into an argument about this. Maybe you can help. Maybe you nerds can help settle a little bit. Who's the main character of Gurren if you really think about it?
Starting point is 02:21:34 It's Simon. It's Simon. It's Simon. I don't understand. He's in the entire show. It's Simon. He's literally in every episode. Yeah, the plot follows his character.
Starting point is 02:21:44 The show begins about Simon. Why is that a debate? He's the first and last character on screen. Why is that a debate? I hope you lose your fate. I hope. I assume it's like he's also coming up because who else could it possibly else be? Yoko, obviously.
Starting point is 02:22:02 Yoko, obviously. No, it's Buddha. The only way it could be common is when the commoner, you know, then follows him. Yeah. You know, like. I'd watch that too. I'd watch that too. That'd be awesome.
Starting point is 02:22:15 Oh. Coming a guy then. That'd be a good time. That'd be a good time. No, I guess the fourth is the main character. Oh no. Wait, that's stupid. That's harsh.
Starting point is 02:22:25 Don't do that. Don't do that. And we're going to go with one last one. There's a lot of female. Oh, actually, we kind of already addressed this a little bit. Oh no. Yeah, it was just like, how do you feel about the cool song in Gunvolt that plays after you've died too much?
Starting point is 02:22:42 Wow. Wow. That's really something. Personally, I feel a mix of hype and shame. It's like the lyrics. It's like the lyrics to Revengeant's boss fight music's kick in when you're losing. That's what I was going to say. I really like it, but it makes you feel bad because you're like, I should be better than
Starting point is 02:23:00 them. It's bittersweet. Damn it. And she's like, I'm singing for you, Gunvolt, believe. But that's not, because then I know I'm doing bad. Yeah. You know? It sucks.
Starting point is 02:23:11 I like it though. It's a nice touch. It's a nice touch. But yeah, like it's totally like you get a reward for sucking. I really didn't think you would say something that we really covered that well, but we totally did it. There's always happening on the site. The site?
Starting point is 02:23:26 We got Dark Souls coming up, obviously. We got Prison Break that will be finishing out during the week. Yeah. Definitely. I don't know what's going up. I really don't know. We might sneak around with Sonic the King of video games. Oh.
Starting point is 02:23:42 That's shit. That's shit. Go. Go. We can't retry with it. Go. All right. That's it.
Starting point is 02:23:50 No, I don't have any pictures. All right. Just as long as we know. Also, I thought it was good. We didn't completely waste everybody's time going down to packs. We played a game down there that we really liked. It's true. And we're going to give some impressions on that.
Starting point is 02:24:05 That's right. Video impressions. I guess the Nuzlocke should be up this week, the stream. Oh, really? You're going to do that? As an archive? All right. Version will be done like tonight.
Starting point is 02:24:14 Great. Great. Because Twitch has already cleared out those archives. Oh, shit. We'll have the Nuzlocke archives for you guys coming up. Fantastic. Also, there'll be some fighting game thing on Friday. Probably.
Starting point is 02:24:25 That's usually scheduled for Friday. Probably. That's probably what we do. Is Friday coming this week? Yeah, it's coming this week. Okay. We'll probably have one of them. And also, if you want to come down to Montreal Comic Con, this won't be on the site.
Starting point is 02:24:37 That's true. It was in the real life. Oh, well, I was going to put that on my watch. Well, if you want to come down to Montreal Comic Con, we've got a panel on Sunday. That's great. Yeah, to be determined, but it'll be towards the end of the day. That's great. So look at a guide and you'll see it.
Starting point is 02:24:53 You'll see it. If you're in the area. We're going to be at the Montreal Comic Con, you guys. You can come and say hi. Yeah, that was going to be my watch. That's also my watch. You know what? Fuck it.
Starting point is 02:25:03 It's on my watch, too. It's on my watch. Montreal Comic Con, Friday to Sunday. Looking forward to that, but also Destiny. Yeah, Destiny's coming out tonight. I'm actually really excited. I am. I'm probably going to stay up till three and play like a couple of hours.
Starting point is 02:25:14 No, I got to wait for my coffee to ship tomorrow. Despite the fact that I have a ton of work tomorrow. I'm still going to fucking stay up. I'm really excited to finish Danganronpa 2 because... I bet you are. Boy. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:25:25 Yeah. All right, we're done. We're fucking tired. Yeah. I'm going to go home. That's good. You can't stop me. I'm going to go home, too.
Starting point is 02:25:33 I'm going to really hit the button. Hit the button. Okay, bye everybody. Oh, good. Bye. Hit it. Bye. Bye.
Starting point is 02:25:41 Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.
Starting point is 02:28:40 Bye. Bye.

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