Castle Super Beast - SBFC 058: Tears are the only Lubrication

Episode Date: September 16, 2014

I'm not gonna lie to ya, we ramble about our weeks for the first like hour and a half, you guys. But don't worry, then it's all Minecraft straight to the end.

I know I've decided not to buy I've got multiple copies of why wouldn't you buy Vax cuz I figured he had multiple copies of it never played I just want to point out that the be all and all of that kind of ad was the fucking spy fiction ad that was making fun of and snake eater and By sweary where snake is just a crazy old man eating snakes Flicks back his hair and then Doug goes invisible and does all sorts of kung fu shit It's like spy fiction that was and then I'd like three seconds

Remember we're gonna use as the basis for that clone game of clones show right um yeah, I know there's some there was that There was the clay fighter ad back in the day that had like Ryu and a dumpster Mr. Frosty was Yeah, well, no, I think the best one ever is Sega to San churro saves like Sega's building from Of course, we are terrorists and are going to blow up Sega Sega does what Nintendo I miss the scream ads Slinging in video games, that's that's what it was. It sucks the PlayStation. Oh They're so jealous that they're gonna murder our office and everyone just the office though

They think they can get away with it But if you give us your money to buy our products, we can defend ourselves Although technically Sega to San churro was killing children for not plague Sega console. We just beat them up But they exploded when he judo Maybe a San churro was more over here would have killed even more children to allow the June cast to keep living. Oh It's powered by the blood of innocence It's thinking it's thinking about how sad it is and how it's dead When's the last time you went back and watch that PS9 ad?

Like a month yeah, yeah, I just keep going back to every two months for the rest of your life Like that thing is so stupid And like the farther we get in time like the less like the less crazy it becomes But there is not one bit of that ad that has become remotely real. No, no, no, no, but remember We're but still five away, but just you wait when the the included tech demo software with Morpheus is that Visuals just to wrap it all up except they've excised out all the wipeout cars because those guys don't exist No, they'll bring it back. They'll bring them back better I saw the fake

Kaz Harai Twitter account right has rice CEO Kaz rice CEO or he goes like oh man I hope Mojang does really well under Microsoft, but sometimes these things don't work out, but it's very rare Yeah, dude, he had been on a streak today, and I wrote to that guy. I was like yeah, I hope they don't turn it to another sinosis. Oh It's a tough time straight everything sad. Why are you guys sad it up man? Sadden it up sad the sad down. That's what tears are the only way we can lubricate this podcast and get it through the tubes Nice nice, I like that with you you like it. We're moving into episode 50. I notice I notice Sure when that started See the computer and halfway through this conversation. We float into it so organically I was afraid that Willie was then gonna say all right now

Let's start recording Yeah, he says okay guys I get that this conversation is awesome, but I'm not recording so shut up Just shut up. It's like Krieger on Archer. I'm supposed to be recording. Yeah exactly exactly What is going on guys? I had the busiest fucking week busy week Actually did not leave them. No, I think really think about it was quite busy. I yeah, well, yeah, it was busy Yeah, I wouldn't say they're not consistently or thoroughly. Well, yeah, I don't ask if it was busy. I said hey I nobody I'd say it was pretty thorough. This is a you check to channel that gets busy consistently and thoroughly

Right then can we just replace our description with that? Yeah, okay? Are the the one we just said? Funnier than we actually are we're funnier than we are funny. It's funnier than it is That's the same train of thought of you will most trick me You didn't laugh it's like no hold on wait. No wait, you just it's no it's actually really No, it's been a busy week because we've been recording a bunch because like me and willy are fucking We're going all the way off the planet like that's correct like super soon. We're going to the moon Yeah, real quick. It's coming up. Yeah, I learned those moon runes, man

The moon room so the moon speak also. Have you picked it up? I know I have someone else who Yeah, I don't even care right His favorite game apparently like learn Japanese. It's true. What are you talking about? You could oh, yeah You won't you hate everything you what I don't you you know I just mean you refuse to even learn a bit just to play the game that you can no, but I'm not having this argument I'm not having it. It's not an argument. No very one-sided. Enjoy. Yeah, I don't know where you're going with this pad I don't it's like let's go to the moon willy. Yeah Yeah

It's fine, but I can't I can't enjoy okay fuck video games fuck real life Let's back it off if you could go to the moon right now the moon. Yeah, right? It's like what pot how much downside do you need to stop you? Okay? Because the answer is not what you would get but like because I want to go to the moon really bad Yeah, anything that's like cuz like it the I need the guarantee that we're gonna land. Yeah, no I'm talking like severe just like ten years off your life. Oh Like how bad does it have to be for you to not go all of my hair gone? Okay forever like it never grows Yeah, I take it. Yeah, I wouldn't go if it took time off my life like yeah

I wouldn't go there's better things to do my life That's where I'm going is a place that gives me the time back I could I could go for like a full year off my life if I get to if I get to go to the moon stand on the moon and see The earth Like hole. Yeah, like it was always meant to be but you got to land. I don't want this floating in space shit I won't know I think near earth orbits pretty cool. It's cool, but I wouldn't you get to be no You get to be late. Yeah, wait list you get to shit in a tube Yeah, yeah, that's a benefit

Gravity where you just float around in this pointless. Yeah, but isn't that it isn't that everything that isn't that life Just pointless It's getting really heavy for a talk about weightlessness Can I just point out that your family is like the cast of Full House You literally have like all the siblings to have like the wild one the young one you've got a nerdy one You know and then the the the parents dad's buff I know dad's bald and kind of gruff looking like as you guys As you walked up into the distance we heard piano music I swear to God

Yeah, well, I was playing it like no, he walks away, and then it's a freeze frame in the credit Walks into the side I Came to our panel. I know it was really sweet And then I said you guys can't ask questions or talk or act like you know me at all. What a good son What a fantastic brother in the eye? That was a whole episode Liam's on the couch like Liam. What are you doing? He's like mom I'm trying to write for the panel. Yeah, and then just like applause. Yeah

Are those other nasty best friends gonna be this mom How rude yeah Yeah, man We had we had a week. Oh man. Yeah, so I had I had the most packed week based on the fact that I just didn't sleep Well, yeah, that's a good. That's my sleep schedule is gone shot to all shit. Yeah, that'll prep you good for it And instead of trying to fix it, I'm just let it be fucked. I'm going worse I'm going deeper. Yeah be tired when you get on that 19 hour plane ride I'm saving it up so that when I get to the other side it I'm gonna be hopefully hopefully it'll work out

Yeah, I hope so fight the jet lags so with my lack of sleep each night I have a fuck I finished off all of Archer fix the world You just all of it. I watch I just I was on season the beginning of season three Okay, there's five seasons you just washed all of it off. It's good. Um, yep, I Watched the goddamn Captain Harlock movie. Yeah, you did Okay, that's that's on Netflix too. It's on Netflix. That's correct. It's pretty and it's really pretty. Yes, it's all right Some problems, you know, but I mean whatever man, it's it's badass And if you want to see the man that inspired everything

Really all of it. Mm-hmm. That ultra man inspired everything. Well sentai thing No, no, I mean I mean the man that inspired all the badasses. Oh, okay. I thought no naga inspired all that Yeah, the attitude what a badass the attitude. Oh, it's got a badass. It was going places to get a lot of ambition Oh No, the man who killed the world because fuck their morals, you know what I mean? Like he's the ultimate space pirate. Yes, I'm like that then led to of course the Insane purchase which is gonna show up in the video. Yeah. Yeah, I mean I'm looking at that and from look at it and ask me that question again. It's really

My perspective it doesn't seem that insane how insane is it? You'll see you'll see in the video You'll be given a figure on how Let's be real three-fifths of that money went to the chair. Yeah But then you touch him and feel all the material and it's and it's real Okay, so there was that hope he has watched the the Kamen Rider a to z movie Got through that. That was a fun time as well Kept going on Jojo. Yeah, yeah No, no, I'm talking manga man. Oh, oh, I'm reading. I'm continuing to read through steel ball run

Yeah, that's long and you know, whatever Picked up the snow piercer books. Yeah, you did finished off the snow piercer books. You read both of them read both They're very quick reads because they're just like they're big. Yeah, they're bay days But no, but this is there's a decent amount of writing. It's a you know, but whatever it was a read I did them both and here's the deal if you've seen snow piercer The movie is better. Really? Wow You mentioned that because snow piercer As a concept it was adapted and then they kind of just went we're gonna take the setting from moment zero and then do our

Own thing it's and they really don't recycle the same characters or like plot Because you think about it. It's a great idea. It's a great scenario. Yes But the book is not as well thought out and it also has problems with pacing and it's not just a bay day thing It just does things where between panels hours or days can pass and there's Exactly you're having a hard time picking that up I'm not but even when you do just the events that occur are sadly not as well You know, so it's I'd still say do it. It's interesting. It expands on the universe But this is one case one rare case

Would you say like see the movie first and if you really like it then maybe exactly see the movie first And if you really enjoy the movie go check out those those Books for the extra story and whatnot, but don't think you're not getting the real story because the real story is not as good Yeah, unfortunately, unfortunately, I'm gonna borrow those. Yeah, man. You can grab me a good time Of course the smash demo, right? Did you grab it? Okay? You did get one. Yes. I got some hands on with that I want to thank big band For sending me a smashcode right on wait. Did you also get one for Matt? I can if you want because I got my guy just got one code

Twitter offering me one. Yeah, like they can't offer it unless like we follow some way to exchange the code No, no, I can I can get you one because someone's offered one for you and woolly, but I just asked someone to say Like I didn't even know that there was like until people started offering codes I didn't know there was even a demo until it got a thread one up on neogaf and like 30 seconds later I had a post on Twitter like begging No, but you know got the hands on it did that for a bit. Um, yeah, Liam You were not exaggerating villager. It has some strong-ass moves forward smash is absurd. It's really good

It doesn't go far but that drop That glitch with peach now she's auto-banned. Yeah. Yeah, what a what a she's not in the demo It's a little in the full version. Yes full version Japanese if you play online with peach It thinks you brought in an illegal item in pants. Oh What it is is there's an occasional chance that if you pull out an item with peach within the very beginning of the match It can detect that you like came into the stage with an item or are trying to hack otherwise What a what a weird like really unfortunate one in a million through yeah Someone don't play as peach someone tried to reproduce and it took him like 14 times to get it on camera

It's not even consistent That's a hard that's not low user path. Yeah, exactly. But when you have the amount of people that are probably playing in Japan It's probably like oh, it happened the first day exactly. You know someone means peach. Hey, it's that's how it go Yeah, but you know like a villager feels great You know, I like I like what's going on with him. I Megaman's really weird Yeah, and more or less that up a is amazing what is up tornado thing. Yeah, sorry jump up a bear No, the tornadoes is running its rat

And the work toward the running tang also the down smash I like because it's like Samus except on both sides. Yeah, that's fun But uh, no all in all, you know, I'm like, yeah, okay. This is this is a you know piece of little thing It's a really good look at the game But you know, I had some complaints about it like I think the two-minute format does not demo. Oh, it sucks shit But it's even worse in this game because the blast zones are like way further out than they were in previous Yeah, I'm playing against high-level CPUs and getting zero deaths zero deaths and it's like well Yeah, well exactly when I'm playing is level 9s like it'll be like did you know this kill zero death and like getting a second

You barely got it. You were like 10 seconds to go. Well, no, I wouldn't say Better Do you think or no, sorry what the blast zones? That's gonna be both I'm sure it was a conscious decision at that point I guess because it'd be weird if something I've only heard you say this about the 3ds version But the 3ds version is the only one where I only got to play two-minute matches like under these Those were two minutes, but there were four players with a bigger selection, so I wasn't and I only got like To like I played over a hundred matches and it's like

I just remember the first thing you said like all the blast zones are further apart So it seemed like it was a thing that you like noticed really fast And you know it wasn't so noticeable with four players because it was just a mess with items But when it's two players and you're hitting them way past the edge of the screen, you're like well, they didn't die That's weird. I One thing I didn't want to get a good look at and like thankfully the demo does show it to you is like what the hud is doing When you go through all the sub menus and stuff Oh, yeah, even the locked off areas you can kind of see how you can see what's going on

And it's like yeah, no, that's that's how you do it You bring all the shapes up onto the touchscreen and then have your info at bottom You know just like the kid at Chris and stuff. Yeah. Yeah Medius it tells you how much battery power your 3ds has left. Yeah, all the saccharized games. I love that. Yeah You need to know it's really good really good demo I Still don't like the character select and the level select screen on this on the 3ds though how it's just black with the Boxes boxes. I don't like that. It's it's not great when you look at all the other versions of smash and they have their really colorful

Yeah, character selects, but I guess they kind of were thinking these thumbs and nails are so small of course Information we're gonna exactly and it's it's a utilitarian thing and it totally works and I'm gonna play this game for fucking ever But like it's not pretty though. Hope but it's really fun. Yeah. Yeah, there's that I think I think there's like I don't want to say there's balance issues like it's definitely It's not as unbalanced as brawl was that's for sure with these five anyway No, I'd say across the board as well But like even just within these five like there's noticeable Deviations in quality. Well, like all you like I think Mario is the best character in this demo easy

And then I'm looking at the tier list in Japan. It's like yeah, guess what Mario's hi hi dear Like well cuz what you're really evaluating with the demo is like the universal system more than like character specific things Of course. Well, there's character specific stuff to that too. Mario can do like zero to 60 combo like that on most characters Yeah, you're you're saying like you found a zero to 40. No, yeah, it's no problem Okay, so it's like and other characters don't have those options. So that being said again still more I absolutely can't wait because it's such a good demo. I know Fuck the two-minute thing. That's bullshit. Yeah, I want to play stop No, why does he refuse to live in this world? Yeah, also, let me have battlefield with no items

There's nothing like yeah, but at least they gave you like final mega battlefield But I want battlefield with no items battlefields my favorite stage. So whatever whatever. It's really good. Other thing was The order was at the cons But did you try order packs? Yeah, exactly the same demo. Yeah, same demos as packs And I don't know if any of you guys got your hands on it. Did you get headphones or no? Okay, the audio is really good as I was able to hear but like yeah, I didn't get any but um, yeah, it's the order and You know, you shoot the thing the gun systems clever as you as you mentioned that's what I said like perfectly good

You're there's nothing to cry home about, you know, not the right home right home about rather. Yeah It's a bit weird because it's almost the same good that there'll be nothing to cry home about Yeah, it's it's almost the same thing the same feeling I have from when I played Sunset Overdrive sure Yeah, like both of these games. I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, I got hands of them. I was like, well, yeah, all right You know, well, it's also rare that like I never played a demo that I can't remember off-hand rules Yeah, I can't wait for more of that. Like it's always like that was good like But based on the footage you've seen and and based on that though

I I I have a premonition that it's gonna be like pure corridors. Oh, yeah Anything like there might be one big battle area I talked about it right back into a corridor like this game This game's maker break is gonna be how good the cinematic stuff is Yeah, I'm sure you saw how seamless that shit was Yeah, well, you know what? Yeah, here's the thing even if it makes it like I don't care about that shit Compared compared to like you might not care, but I care about that sure So it's like if it if it's really that good at that then I might appreciate it for that

And you know and the guns are fun I can appreciate it for that But if it's like like like if it's less if it's less open than Gears of War one, then I'm gonna be really I'm hoping that like they play up to their strength, which is well besides the crazy guns The whole this is the Knights of the Round Table bit Well, they've been like hiding all the Mythological and like the fantasy elements of it, and they've been just slowly Showing those off and like but you know they're the Knights of the Round Table

And yeah, exactly like around for fucking eons like it's like you know, that's got to be a part of it There's gonna be a lot of stuff going on The main developer of the order is ready at dawn. That's correct. So one thing I've always been worried about is that since there've been like Constrained by making the PSP games for so long and when they thought they were out They pulled them back in after they caught rid of all their dev kits and then had to make another PSP a game Oh, you say had to but they love doing it like I don't know if you watch their development They love doing it so much that they threw out all their dev kits and said you'll never need these I mean like Who throws out their dev kits? No, but I mean

Actually, it's actually to be fair. You actually can only do that Everyone has to I've been at companies where the the IT guys in the back taking axes to original Xboxes Because it's like you have to destroy when chaos got shut down when I was working at THQ They sent it in and me and three other guys were tasked with going in the back Yeah, and we just had boxes from chaos that were just wires and shit And we just had to separate everything and then all half of it went in the dumpster Yeah, they're pulling on hard drives and scratching them Yeah, wreck everything

But what I mean to say is that when you're kind of constrained and for a couple of years and you get like a bigger canvas to work on You actually can't fill it up. Oh, maybe like I just mean that's like always like a concern to me that like yeah Maybe we don't like you have you play more you can do more stuff And they're like hesitant already it dawns like core strength was that they could get sorcery out of the PSP Yeah, and you see that in the visuals of the order, but it's like I want more than visual sorcery here I was gonna say it's worth noting that Santa Monica is helping them with They have a half of the studio devoted to helping Yeah, because it feels like every single project like also Santa Monica to Hockham counterspy

If you run rare not rare a retro was like we're making donkey on country and they're like oh that seems kind of like you're Shrinking your vid like your scope. Yeah, and it's like well. Yeah, maybe but look how good this If if half the guns in the final build end up being as innovative as that Demo gun. They're gonna be fine. Yeah, because that guns really it's really smart And I'm hoping they're not just like spewing their wide too quickly Of course showing that off just do it kind of like how to rock it's like There's a few good guns then those three so the four and then that's it And then yeah, so in here I see a strong possibility that this game is talked about for the eons because of the one cool gun

And the but what there's going to be one sequence like I remember an mgs4 Like at the very beginning where it goes it fades out from the cutscene into direct control snagging everyone's minds Like there's going to be one sequence in which it goes back and forth back and forth back and forth And it's going to be perfect Yeah, and then there's going to be one good gun that you also have in that section And it's going to be like the the facility a battle in zone of the others too Where it's the only crowded where the only it's the only thing people could talk about for that game forever Because it's the best bit. Yeah, it'll be like the vector cannon and the airships and the facility a battle

Yeah, and just like there's just nothing to compare and no one ever talks about anything else in the entire game You know what can I just take a moment like if you if you decide to put your game on hold to dedicate an entire level to a weapon That's okay. That's okay. That's a loud You should do that probably. Oh my god the vector cannon priming irons locked Oh, all right. Um, so good And I don't know uh, if you bothered but like the other bit was the shadows of mordor a shadow of mordor I did not even I watched a couple people play. So I realized I'm not going to get at the controller So I just kind of dead. I stared at the screen for like half an hour or so

Um, look like Batman. You know what man? It like looks fun. It looks like it has some stuff going on and I did It was weird words like man. I hope this is way better than it is. Yes. Yes I want to be surprised by it was weird seeing like hyper moves in a tolkin Like sitting now. Let's I wouldn't even call it a shit Let's be real. This is we have this license. Let's put a they're bending this shit as far as if they are I thought that last one like frozen north or whatever. Yeah, that was like really Yeah, I wore in the north. I thought it was really pushing in the very fringes of the Let's not forget the genesis of this game

It was going to be another batman game and then they saw they had the license and said well Why don't we instead of making another batman? That man and I have made fun of and I guess it's not everybody made fun of them for that shit Why don't we just make it lord of the rings game? We have more freedom because it's not batman because it gives it Like I know there's like ten nerds out there. There's some really most Yeah, but to everyone else The weird generalized lord of the rings license that you can kind of do whatever the fuck you want with Yeah, they don't seem to care too much or like fucking video games

Like there was this weird moment in the in the preview campaign for that It's like we're gonna let you know who the the ghost wraith guy is and they revealed it and like oh my god It's that elf guy from the similarly I was like who the who the who the fuck is that? Is he a ghost now that that aside like just on a gameplay level my my Worries were whenever I saw the flow of combat. It was like back to the old assassin's creed style Tilt stick this direction instant kill tilt stick that direction dash up instant kill prince of persia I took out 20 guys. It's just weird because you know in my description It would sound like ubi's making it, but no, it's war brother. Yeah, but it's water brother's Montreal

Which probably no, it's monolith. It's monolith. Yeah, and that's the other reason why I was gonna bring it up Is that like I'm glad monolith has at least doing like a game You know like not as opposed to as opposed to gotham knight imposters or whatever that was Yeah, it was and then something else before that Well, no, then they had to rework it for free to play but only on pc with these who made fears That's monolith same guys and no one lives forever. It's just what they should be making right now Because there's monolith and then monolith was soft. No, that's not I was confusing them with avalanche actually for some reason Oh, you mean makers of just cause and disney infinity. Yeah fears really sad to me because really?

I'm pretty sure I was gonna say mad max. I'm pretty sure they make that too. Who the fuck is making whatever I'll google it while you guys keep talking sure makers of just cause are making. Yeah, that's right. That's right They're making mad max. Yeah, they are saying that they're also helping with disney infinity Which is one they were everyone's helping with disney As well as ninja theory boo Yeah, boo ninja theory boo No, the the uh the combat looks like very prince of persia style like just plow through these guys and i'm kind of like Did you see any of the nemesis system?

Yes, and that's the but that's the part that I was like, okay now i'm looking at this Right my my eyebrow lifted a bit because it's like okay. This guy killed you Now he's standing here. He gets promoted to this guy and then you you you play with their troops Yeah, and then you can track the guy down and like it's very interesting to actually work through a hierarchy Of guys my only problem with that system is when they show it They think like there's no subtlety at all or like you cut this guy's leg off No, no, but the guy whose leg got cut off says you cut my leg off in the last battle I hope that won't show my end

Yeah, yeah, yeah Like I hope there's more subtleties It depends on how smooth they can make that because whenever you see something like that and it's like oh It's a meant be now. It's see you're just like it's jarring. It has to be more abstract Well, the real problem at least in the early demo like video footage We saw was like he said the guy comes he's like you were the one that took my eye and then while the battle is happening He's like you took my eye. Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna get you back for taking my eye Like I know that's the point of this system that one piece of dialogue maybe only in the actual fight

Yeah, enough and then you can lay off Yeah, you when you go into the big chart of everyone and it can say it in the text there So you can always refer to it your relationship chart Your relationship chart, but just when there's not enough you stole my heart Come away with me. You ate my sandwich Like I'm imagine imagine they tried this back on the Dreamcast or on old pc games Like I remember when you fought me at I was gonna say the war is the battle of the sun

Was that the battle for the sun of or of the sun at the sun on the sun What was that fucking wrestling cart game on the game cube shut up My shower it's not carts, man. It's it's It's uh fucking twisted metal where it's like rikishi grabs the twisty rockets It's so slow. I love it. I remember showing me had a great joke about that I was like, do you think they just invited jim ross for a long dinner party and just recorded everything he said and Yes

Together and use it for the in game. I think the I think the worst ones that ever did that was the attitude wwf war zone and attitude Shane and michael cole on against the ropes Steve austin and and it was the most throws like on it It was so bad to that you would even at that time that you were like, why did you even bother? Steve austin beats his wife. Yeah Whoops What an amazing throw from

on it johnson Against the rock now. I'm thinking about nhl 97. Yeah. Yeah, you are well Well, they the way they got away with it in madden on pc because I used to play that back in the days Was they just straight up had like john madden record a bunch of lines going wow that guy was great Yeah, he's generic pass it to the other guy and he went back in the pocket for the double coverage What a quarterback great john madden because john madden sounds like an idiot Yeah, he caught the football like it's just no, that's not john madden. That's pat

summer all summer all whatever the other guy football nancing man everyone Expect viscera There you go. Um, I have a gripe this week. I have a gripe. Oh, no, you're right at the end of my mind How are you doing? I'm griping because Uh, so I remember when uh, liam earlier you're like go play velocity 2x. Yeah Playing on the ps n plus and I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, okay I guess I can sign up for that since I'm gonna grab a ps4 soon. That's right And then I completely forgot

About the fact that I had tried to get psn plus prior. Yeah twice what happened. It never worked because you're using your credit card Sony has a shitty credit card detection detection system. Yeah, luckily that doesn't the store takes paypal now Okay, but guess what what you can get paypal to put funds in your wallet, which is how I buy things Yeah, but you cannot get psn plus without a credit card on your file. That's a lie That's a blatant lie because when I tried to that's lies Well, I went through the the goddamn console and then I went through the website and both of them was like No, man, you gotta add your credit card. We have your address But you gotta put even when you just tried to buy the product from the the the store

No, when I tried I tried to do the uh, the trial you gave me and that didn't work So the trial That does require a credit card the trial and try absolutely because the trial is to get you to sign up with your credit card So that it renews, but if you just put money in your account And then go and buy the digital item. That's one year ps plus that should work. Yeah, that's what I do Okay, so it should work. I know pat does that because he doesn't want his card number So I know it's because my card doesn't work with Sony. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it sucks So I I called my bank. I called sony. I was gonna call them today. So here's what it is

Here's what it is. What bank do you use a row bank? I use national bank. Okay. Here's the deal. This is Some of it is because we're canadian. There is a secure. There is a security protocol in sony's system That's like a number signifier that is not even a field in canadian banking So it when it goes to enter it, it's blank and every other institution does it But sony wants its thing really really strict and secure And it just fails and with people in the states Even beyond that or they have that the their banks are properly set up for that shit You have to put in your goddamn address to the period. Yes, accurate

But that's what I because I thought it was that and I got my statement and one to one did and it still didn't work Even then there might be a space your statement doesn't it is it is horrible And it will used to be the worst because you used to have to buy cards Exclusively because there was no other option. Yeah, but now there's a mobile option using your phone build and now there's a A uh a paypal option any other so that's what I do. So by getting the the specific Item for a time period. Yeah, I go I go to the website and add paypal money Then I buy it either through the site or on the console. Okay. Well, you're completely right. It sucks

I wanted to try not fix that. Of course. Yeah, I I totally forgot that your car didn't work or didn't remember No one's car works on this shit. My works. Well, you're you're lucky. You're lucky. I lucked out. You lucky, but hey Now you're lucky. I lucky you lucky. I lucky That's a good great Because it's a great I've had for years. It's a good great that you can fortunately fix, but it does you know You can't fix it. You can work. Well, yeah, you're right work around it Yeah, and it's so frustrating to me because every now and then you you do the paypal thing It's like it might take a while to process the paypal and I'm like, oh come on really

You know, I got that notice yesterday when I bought uh, how am I am in the ps3 and I was like, are you serious? Yeah, and then I just got it right away. Yeah, but it gave me that notice Just a while And I'm like am I because the the timing was actually perfect because I was going to go like, okay You've got like 15 or 30 days before and I was going to go to japan come back and then and possibly grab the console but For whatever yeah, no, I had the exact exact same issue After last year's e3 when I came back with the ps plus cards right e3 the exact same thing happened to me

And I had to I had to do that work around to get it. It sucks fix that shit you guys that being said It's really easy to soothe that wound when you actually start using ps plus because like you get free shit all the time And it's totally worth it. It's totally worth This counts too I don't want to shield too hard, but like I actually really it's really good especially after I felt like I was getting ripped off on gold for years I I use gold a lot. No, so did I but gold didn't give me anything other than usability ps plus gives you the same usability for enough and then it gives you like hey, here's Here's six games. No, I have I have gotten the the the free stuff. They've been

Yeah, it gets good since that started Walk amelae um crimson dragon Strike strike c0. Strike c0. I strike four zero I'm really glad that they are fighting each other on giving you free That's like that's the right battleground to be on absolutely like because it used to be xbox slot gold was just a way Way better service than psn, but psn was free and it was it was simple Do you want to pay for a better service or do you want the free service? Especially because ps3's wi-fi thing like so many people have wi-fi and

It was imperfect. Yeah And now it's not like that now it's you pay for both But like they give you free shit all the time Well, the image is like you're walking down like across the two car salesmen lots and they're both just handing shit to you Like fucking here. You want an apple? You look like you use an apple I don't know if anybody would agree to this but downloading on all the all the different systems I find what like 360 was always the fastest

I was like this downloader really always the fastest and then you're totally right and then The the xbox one. It's definitely slower. I don't know where it kind of fits in ps3 for me has been the slowest Something about it's I think it's the wireless Okay, I think the Wii U was the slowest at Launching at launch. When I think it's like slightly better. I don't know when I was getting ready to play left behind I set that shit up in the afternoon when I'm when I met up with my girlfriend. Yeah, you went out to dinner Fucking eight had a whole night came back super late. Shit wasn't done. You're told it couldn't play My old apartment had absurd shite download speeds on my ps3 and for some reason my new apartment and where I live before that

Were way better. Yeah, so like it also just varies. Yeah like wild. I don't even know man I don't even know but I totally had that when I was like crazy extensive experience on all of them plus the pc Steam has been upgrading its speed for a while and steam Finally can keep up with like my download speed So can ps4 ps4 downloads at the max. I don't know like it is it is a dramatic improvement since ps3 It is it. Yeah, I did Fastest it could possibly go two of the downloads that were out of going on your console when you lent it to me

Lee and like we're halfway done Yeah, and on steam Before we we did the ff video ff8 video on the console like I have I bought the pc version Then I was like, oh wait. Fuck no, I can go get it from here But before I had the chance to even really it was already done Steam and ps4 the fastest followed by the 360 then the xbox one then the wii u then the ps3 I think the vita is still faster than the 3ds. Oh, I'm not counting them handles 3ds would then be dead fucking

I'm so glad the new 3ds has a better wireless card just for that because the 3ds download speed is fucking Oh, I need to download 10 blocks. Okay, we'll go eat dinner. Yeah, fucking shit. Oh that being said though I'm so happy that they finally got tetris games on the motherfucking e-shop. Yeah, like I was looking for tetris games And they have dr. Moran. I guess And now they've got uh tetris axis and the classic one and i'm fucking good. Did you play tetris axis? I did. I did. Did you try all the cool modes? There's so many modes. I know try the ar card one with the tower It's yeah. No, no, no, no, I I'm updating my my like desert island game to just be tetris. Yeah, like I can play that forever Unironic version is always the question. Yeah. Yes, it's still the one but until let me go through those modes. I'll let you know

Uh, since we're talking about download speeds and all that stuff I feel this is a really good segway if you're mostly done with your week Yeah, man. Go for Liam and I to segway into talking about the destiny preload Uh, that was the most painless preload system. I've ever fucking experienced in my entire life. What's it like on ps4? Okay, so here's the deal you buy the game you pre-order the game Well, I was going to say what's it like and my answer is it just works. So yeah, but I'll I'll explain it I can tell you what it's like for further. I'll explain it deeper in a context in in terms of steam versus the ps4. Yeah steam you'll

Sometimes and it seems to be getting rarer again. They'll say hey, well, it's per developer You'll let you preload this over the weekend and you will download what it seems to be 90 percent of the game Not 100 but only 90 percent Otherwise people would just crack that crack that shit in an instant like no problem Uh, that usually is pretty slow. It's like it's clearly not steam's peak because people are rushing that shit Yeah, but it'll be done because you have three days to do it, right? Uh, and then the day comes out You never know when it's actually going to unlock but sometimes it unlocks at midnight

Sometimes it unlocks at three at three a.m. Eastern. Sometimes it unlocks at noon Sometimes it's delayed by two hours for no reason And then you have to download the extra remaining gig or whatever it is and sometimes that can actually be really slow Sometimes it can be really slow and sometimes The cash fails to verify and it's it can take like an hour and a half And it kind of sucks in comparison The ps4 you pre-order the game and you buy it and then four days or three days beforehand When your ps4 is in standby, it just says oh, you're not doing anything because the thing's in standby

I'm gonna start downloading this shit if you're okay with that. I'm just gonna go ahead I have no idea how fast it goes But what I do know is the destiny was like 30 gigs and it was completely finished by the time The game was supposed to be live and it brings up this nice little icon on your fucking screen that just has the game as a regular You know like when you're looking at the the It's not the xmb anymore the psdm the psdm. Yeah, and and you've got all the boxes. Yeah, destiny'll just be there Yeah, a little lock on it with a little lock and it has a time limit. It has a countdown Okay, a nice big time. And that countdown is for destiny. It was till 3 a.m. Eastern

And they've been saying that they're gonna try and get it to midnight eastern for most stuff But the instant it hit 3 a.m. Eastern I hit the button and the game unlocked and it was completely full and go okay like it was effort It was painless. It's totally painless on xbone similar thing. You know, you you get it and it starts going right away It's like this is going to take a while or whatever Of course, you can do the red you can start the game before it finishes on xbone. So you can on pre-order Uh, you you could with any xbox one or ps4 game as long as the initial chunks are there No, I mean but a pre-order like not before it comes out. Uh, this was

I don't know. I don't know. I like because I didn't go in play but it said ready to start on it Okay, well that okay, right? I seriously don't play it But the but the the main thing that I was just like I was like, oh, this is cool is the fact that like With that pre-order came with uh, whatever expansion like the whatever piece of initial DLC thing. Yeah, and uh, it when you boot when you go to boot the game on your like game selection It actually brings you to like a destiny folder And it has the thing and then all the stuff right there clean and easy to understand and you know, what's what It's kind of shocking that this stuff is like good. It sounds like both of these are like way superior to

Steam's Implementation and the way sony's been talking about I don't know if microsoft is the way sony's been talking about it It sounds like it's gonna be like Everything like well, it's no. Yeah, like he said not everything but standard. Yeah I mean, it's still gonna be developer dependent or publisher dependent But probably gonna be way more common now. Yeah when it's a fat-ass triple a game that you're gonna want to play Moment how do you fight against discs? Well the game's already there. It's now. It's now way More convenient

Did you see fucking Bethesda on psn offers 10 off their pre-orders to Yeah, what I pre-ordered people within evil within has that countdown. Yeah That's similar to what steam does and the 10 off for for pre-orders And that's something that everyone should just start doing because hey you make you still make more money than off a disc Of course Yeah I see you find this really like this whole thing. We'll be back like towards like this is ridiculous now In terms of like play the beta

Play the early beta preload the game before it comes out How about is pay a thousand dollars and the developer builds the game in front of you He comes to your house That's what early access is to but it's like literally invite us all to your house. We will make the game every day That's a bonus on Kickstarter program. Like that's a real thing you're describing. It's true The lend an office mode. Yeah Uh, but yeah, it's like it's like the key and peel sketch with the hats And the final step of like hat swag is like having the woman on the sewing machine on your hand. Yeah

Like by consistent and like pain-free preload stuff is like it's so I didn't feel no reason to ever buy a physical game Did you boot it? What did you boot it? Yeah? So Liam we played desk. How much did you play? Hold on? I want to talk about our expectations because you and I had different expectations. That's true. That's true I can tell I can tell what some of his are and our other friend pat because you guys are uploading videos of your shit going on Me and pat are enjoying it Yeah, other but but like your video was like Fuck it

Yeah, I told him and you just crash in your dumb fly potter Whatever the fuck and then other pat is zipping up and doing melee combos and it's just like the opposite experience So, uh, leave and I both agree that this is not going to be a life-changing mmo fucking thing It's going to be a solid shooter with mmo things and that expecting like The world it was kind of like doing it as a service some people had this expectation of it's going to be a giant Open planet so many open planets. They kind of sold it like that. Well, a couple people didn't get fucked up I remember on the podcast just pams off that who like went like oh apparently this isn't big at all Okay

So the artwork so I adjusted my expectations the artwork before release was all Giant planet horizons and in the in the first gameplay demo They point out to what is now clearly a non playable area and say you can walk as far as you want Over there, but don't forget in halo the original pc like demo. They're like see the sky see that part You can just walk. Yeah. Yeah, so I adjusted my same guy the same guy saying The expectation sound we're in all I wanted was a solid sci-fi shooter Like halo but with little tweaks and maybe some some group stuff and I still went it I still got disappointed Oh, yeah, I think the mission the mission structure is super boring

I'm blown away that there is like no vehicle segments at all Like it feels paired down and simplistic compared to halo Which seems like ludicrous considering how they were talking about it And the social elements that they said you couldn't review the game beforehand because there'd be no social elements I have played the game for like 15 hours. I've yet to encounter a single social element for real I have not seen a single public event I haven't seen a public not a single one. I've done a bunch of public events. They're great. Yeah, I bet Um, I haven't seen I partied up with three with two guys for a mission and it was like

Really boring? Do you agree? Oh, it's like do you agree with the people that are saying? That there's a lot of borrowed concepts. Yeah, of course It feels like fantasy star online, but not nearly as ambitious not nearly as ambitious That's why I kind of find like when you say it's like it's kind of you know Not like a little bit boring and like all whatever I find when you don't like A multiplayer section and a single player section. It's like if you want a crafted Awesome big bang moments

You usually make a single player narrative because you can control that better. Right. We have an mmo thing That's like, you know, different mmo's do different things, but it's kind of why I don't that's the weirdest thing Because it feels like a single player campaign It does but then they say it's like they're constantly like person is near you person is near you but there's no way for them to join you in your mission And then the missions feel like an mmo mission at the end of it because they're all very simple Even though people don't really actually interact with your stuff It feels like the worst of all worlds of this. Well, how far to your character are you? I'm level 14 of 20

Okay, I'm level 20 I'm I it's only 20. I'm halfway. No, well, it's 20 and then the cap expands and As you as you collect equipment with better light stacks, you can go above I'm level 21 right now off the bat judging judging by the map and the fact that I'm level 21 Judging by the map and the fact there are four planets I've done two and a half planets so far. I've done earth. I've done the moon and I I'm about third through venus. Okay. Yeah, and I like venus was the turning point for me where I was just like so Okay, I'm gonna

Peter Dinklage is going to tell me very boardly To go to a computer And I'm gonna scan the computer hit the computer and it's gonna spawn in waves of vex And the fact that each like planet has its own like primary enemy source that all have their the same Like stratification of enemy type Stop right there for a second. You said Peter Dinklage says really bored Oh, what was the deal with that because I remember trying to totally about that and Like I would back this shit up. I will back the whole that was confusing

So in the original alpha when you fought the one of the you fought a wizard Enemy in the alpha Peter Dinklage said wow the hive is here I you we never thought they'd got get this far that wizard came from the moon Uh, and he said it. I I want I want to say like I said, right And the deal was is that he said it like that and he sounds fucking bored And he always sounds totally bored and then bungee came back and said, okay, we get We get the complaints. There's still like a couple more passes. We need to do on this dialogue And that's all they said so people didn't quite understand what that meant. I didn't

Does that mean you're gonna do another pass on the dialogue? Yeah Or does it mean what I thought and ended up being the case? Are you just going to add filters to his voice and they add just they added What are clearly a couple little filters or three like extra filters to his voice that do nothing to mask the fact that he's bored And he's a robot that seems to have a personality, but the personality just seems mostly bored And they have the guy who played fucking Cedric Daniels on the wire telling you missions And he is one of the he is the tight always the titan like shopkeeper

And he sounds bored too everyone sounds fucking bored and it's really really weird and the fact that the game appears Space wizards people should be jazzed. So I was really jazzed about a story about space wizards And I had the assumption that they had removed story content from the beta So as not to spoil it and then when you play the game, there is like no story at all It's so weird. There appears to be no story in this game at all The only way you can get story is by collecting grimoire cards that you can only read on the bungee website On the website of the app, there are cutscenes, but they're shit There's not the stories literally loose and like

And like from the people who didn't like there's so many things that is like it's so much light halo But it's lesser like you have the you have these four enemy types But they all stratify in the same groups and none of them mix together ever They fight each other. Yeah, sure But there's net like in halo You'd have the grunts and you have the sniper guys and you have the elites and you constantly have these mixing and matching of enemy types That does not happen. It does. Yeah, maybe in destiny. You have a you have a motorbike a scooter A scout or whatever that you can you can fly around on all the time

It has no weapons and it's purely for transport and there's no vehicle segments in the game The lore is very halo Other vehicles in the game. Well, I I yeah, I saw one in multiplayer But I mean like you remember those parts in halo where you'd have like a 50 minute like tank sequence with that was awesome And you would jump in advantage. It was awesome. That's not in the game The fact that the lore is very weird space wizardy halo ish But there's like none of it like you can like I go there's no NPCs to talk to You can't I'm trying I want to know why there are space wizards

Maybe maybe that's all such a slow drip because it's a 10 year No, people were built to beat the game get to the end of the game. What happened? Hold on. It's a decade franchise What do you do? You shoot you? You shoot it is. Back up back up back up. You shoot aliens. You get you get a mission you go through and you shoot the aliens And then and then you get to a point and then Peter Dinklage says I need to scan this thing Congratulations, then you hold the square button and then he scans it and these You find a few more aliens. The hive is coming and then you shoot the hive Matt's having a fire watch. Yeah. Yeah

I've never been super interested in destiny and it seems like I have no reason to get interested in it It's so some from what I can tell you but I thought it was like a rpg But I everyone kind of so imagine you ever play a halo game. Yeah, okay. Take out all the interesting missions Okay, okay. Take out all the big cool vehicle segments. Okay now add drop a member of the co-op So you only have three And character customization add a really lame loot system. That's probably one of the worst loot systems I've ever seen in a game like this. You can get a blue Encrypted thing that's like an identified thing and you identify it and it turns green. That's outrageous. That is horrible

That's the worst and also you only get like Christ. I get like a drop an hour. Like it's really really Drippy sure. Again, let me stop you right there. What's good about it? It looks really nice. The gameplay is really fun. Uh, it plays solid Like it really feels like the guys all the classes feel really different. They feel different and they're fun But like the core it's one of those games like, you know, when you see a game you're like all this Other shit is cool. But the core of the game is bad. Uh sass is creating one. Sure It's the opposite. It's the opposite of that. The core of the game is good All of this shit around it all of it is just like

With the like with the exception of the graphics and the art direction best guide box In fact, the music's good too. The best skybox. I've ever seen new games. Skyboxes are incredible. But like I and I'm not gonna play it anymore. I'm bored. Well, you're done. I'm totally bored I've heard through venus and I'm like I the missions are all the same because I'm just about to finish venus And I've played a lot of competitive multiplayer as well I don't think the multiplayer stands on its own compared to any of the halos or any of the it's The current contemporary I don't really like competitive multiplayer that much But I'm really enjoying this one because of how the classes feel and like with my titan

I got a move that lets you run for a little bit and then you get a special melee Which is either like a shoulder tackle or a tiger knee in the air and it's so fun to plan that that I'm just For the build up. I just keep doing it. Yeah, that sounds pretty cool. I feel this game is just another watch dogs I think it's better than watch dogs. I think it is better. Well, to be fair, to be fair those couldn't be more different I think that I think you're I think it's you're right and then that's true But I think that but this was hyped up way more than watch dogs was I don't know. I think it falls just as short I don't know like I I went into it with like no expectations because I honestly wasn't even going to buy it until

I just I when I intentionally lower my expectations and even those aren't met like I come away really disappointed Yeah, well, I mean I went in with nothing and I'm like this is I wish I could go in with nothing. You might enjoy it. Wally because you went in with nothing as well I still have nothing Yeah, I could go in with nothing and I guess that's my fault for listening to the developers I mean, I shouldn't have watched the gameplay demos. It's always the same thing where it's like if you go back and you see Assassin's Creed It's like hey, guess what that was supposed to change video games the first game and it's no

So I guess when I find out I can run up to a guy and punch him. I'm gonna be like And boy is the punch good Really good. You played tight like figure though person of us that played timefall a bunch Yes seem to enjoy it, but does it seem like the same thing? It's like I think timefall out of the three games that we just mentioned probably turned out the best compared to what types No, because because because like I had I had interest in the mech because I saw that I was like, okay And then the moment I got on it the controller. I was like, yo, I'm in. Yeah, I'm down with the same thing

It's like I played it and I shot some things and that's all there really is to do and then I'm never gonna play it again No, that's not true. I'll I will play timefall again. Okay, or rather When this sequel comes out I'll get on this just like that. I'm I'm getting real. I like I'm already really cynical. I'm already really really good I think I started to see why some games are getting delayed And yes, because of this because of this exact thing of like we promise the world and we're not even gonna get half the world What's what's what's your like flip side to this limb on the destiny Gameplay is just really fun and it keeps me coming back. He's right. That's that's really it the gameplay is

We're not disagreeing in any part. You said you played 15 hours I gotta ask did you check that number because it's not I know I ballparked it I'm going from my own because I thought I was well over 15 and I checked on the mobile app because you can and I had 16 So like I've played for that much and I'm gonna go back and play more tonight. It's really fun I've only played um, maybe I don't know like 15 multiplayer matches. How like how much variation can you see? Are you seeing with your class in terms of are you seeing other guys that are doing exactly what you do? There are three classes. Uh, not at all. A lot of people don't rely on that melee thing at all

There's three classes with two variants per class. I'm pretty sure and they have like vastly different play styles So there might as well be six. Good. Yeah. Good. Good. Good. And then within those You have skills and you can pick and choose them and switch them whenever you want But like for me with the running melee move I could have that or I could have like a thing where I run and generate a shield or another one So so with my guy I opted for that in my I could throw a grenade that does a sustained area of attack effect attack Or I could throw a grenade that splits into like 10 grenades that bounces alone

So I took the flash grenade so that I can run up to them and do the tiger It plays solid and it feels great and I like I'm just so disappointed in the like it's from bungee Like I would have expected the god damn enemy variation to be so much better than this Like it feels so limited. It feels it feels like the mmo design like limited the encounter design so much I think it's one of those projects where they spent a long time figuring out like the guts of everything and how How the world works now versus and how they're gonna make it into a tenure thing rather than actually fill it with content Yeah, that that said like

Anyone who has or gets a ps4 or an xbox one. I think at some point this generation You should try destiny or destiny 2 or destiny 3. Yeah, sure. No, it's the core is like you played for 50 now It's like destiny destiny 2 will likely solve a lot of these problems. Yeah, and if it doesn't then fucking shame on you Like yeah much like it's titanfall 2 or watch dogs 2 Yes, exactly, but you never probably watch it's honestly more of an mmo I feel like I feel like kind of an idiot because I feel like it's been so long since we were at the start of the new generation Of course these games are turning out like this. Yeah, of course. That's well fucking evolve. That's always how it goes Yeah, but if all is not doing anything crazy evolve is taking up all this taking yet an idea

That has already existed in two games and just taking that two games that they made two games that they made And then taking that idea and narrowing it even further and also Realizing that you know what? Let's delay this for a few months because why not? Yeah, why not make it as good as it can be Uh, it's really fun game though. Yeah, definitely like a story. I would say I was having a lot of fun with it until I was tired And I had a moment where my girlfriend had been watching me play and turned to me and said pat What is happening in this game and I said I don't know And I think that sums up a lot about the destiny experience. Sorry. Just your your your negativity

Just reminded me that I beat mighty number nine. Uh, no, I'm sorry Gun vault I beat gun vault this week. Yeah completely forgot that I beat it. Nice You're about to say mighty number nine. I was about to say mighty number nine because I want I hope that game more. I hope innerfune is focusing on that and that's why gun vault turned out It did Because gun vault like he directed it or anything because you beat you beat gun vault and you you have this kind of it's it's a It's a bullshit last-ball sequence, right? It's just it's not super fun and

But you're saying that you like you you're able to unlock at least a few things that made it more Yeah, so well, it turns out that playing the game vanilla Is the bad way to do it because your main setup setup is boring and the run and stop problem that you're talking about It's not fun It's just because you just don't have the ability to do anything but run stop lock on to a guy Fry him then move on But when you when you actually do the optional challenge missions, which they don't incentivize you to do Because you never get enough to buy stuff anyway

Now you buy the triple jump now you buy the the extra strong electricity I saw someone say like the game is the game should have started on new game plus. Yes Yes, because we should have had all of those different types of shocks You should have had everything from there and then get more as you go from that point on rather than where the game starts Because you know how the mega buster is usually like the best weapon in games, right? Imagine if like not only was it the best weapon, but like you don't even see other shit Unless you go to optional challenge areas. Yeah, you don't even see other unlocks You know, you just keep going with the mega buster

It reminds me of uh in batman arkham city where like you get a flying upgrade outside of like an optional mission That you would never otherwise do yeah, I remember I was playing uh arkham city And you go how come you don't have the flying thing and I go I never found it What do you talk about? I've like played like 20 hours of this and you're like Well, you've got to go to this dumb thing that you clearly have ignored this this what what looks like it would be a shitty mission Yeah, do it and then it gives you an upgrade that dramatically improves the game and it's like the locomotive. That's weird when that happens in games I like that though like I like when optional stuff gives you big rewards Yes, but I because it's the surprise that I enjoy. I want a hint that it might

What for me? It's it's the opposite and it's my expectation is there and so when I go in and get nothing I get so disappointed and I never play anymore of those but imagine making it to the end of strider Not getting the double or third jump. Oh dash. Oh for sure. You're like wait. What the fuck and exactly in a game That's way more limited and not a big 3d open world like definitely makes that a bit more Yeah, um, and I ran into a really unique problem where uh, it's like beat the game too fast And it's like, okay, so I beat it get a bad ending clearly Your ending is like you lost you you this is a bad ending. There is no questions asked like job loser done, right? And uh, I'm like, it's like great. Okay, then it's pitch you back to the main menu and I'm like, all right

Well, how do I do the good thing? Fuck this hit google, right? Hit google and google's like No one else knows because it's too new So it's too obscure one guy No one has played and one guy was like, yo, I went back. I collected everything I bought everything and I did all the challenges and then I got the ending and I was like I don't I don't know which one of those was the one but I did it and I that's probably fixed by now God damn it. I bet you it's I bet you if you could find out by now, right? But at the time it was just like That being said that kind of also means that we're a little spoiled

And like back in the 60s right days, no one knew of course But what do you mean the castle turns upside down? Yeah, exactly What do you mean I had to save all these villagers to finish order of ecclesiast? But at least you got a neutral ending after beating uh, uh, Dracula and then that was that you could have walked away from that going like Well, all right job. Well done. I remember that was where I stopped Yeah, I didn't come back until years later because I didn't know because I didn't have access to the internet at the time And that would have been okay, but in this it's like no Bad end. Yeah. Fuck you gun vault

I think it was like Bart versus the world where the angry veticainer did a review and he and it says When you beat the bart versus world, which is a terrible game and it says Oh, it literally says you will not get the special ending because you did not collect all the collectible Crusty icons he goes. Yeah. Well, you know what it's like. Fuck you. I'd be Okay, okay. So the second best game to do that is the page master on the super any Where where you get to the end of the credits and it says you must collect the four secret library cards to get the true ending Or whatever Yeah, but then the best best one was when me and pat finished

Barkley and it said we didn't get the four library cards And they are in the game, but we totally missed the motherfucking page master. Yeah, that game Yeah, go back into the bowels. You didn't see the library card hidden behind the screen I might have said this before but the worst and I like maybe we might even do an LP of it someday just to See if we hate each other, but I'll be playing you play prince of persia warrior within And get to the words the end of the game and you fight like the evil monster or whatever And then the dahaka and then your woman loves she just like dies or whatever and she just dies out No, or and it's just like bitch. She should just say bad end

What you had to know and the game never tells you is you have to collect all the life upgrades that extend your life bar Those are the things that determine a good ending or not And if you realize that while you're playing there's a certain point even the the the game is done in a hub world style There's a certain point where after you get a certain point you can't go back and Oh I talked to ubisoft guys about this when they visited the qa office. I was working out. I went. What the fuck was that? And they're like, yeah They they they go, okay

We know and and when they start when we start two thrones the opening cg cutscene says a lot of people Think that she died in that adventure, but it turns out that was a story in the midst She didn't she's here Because the bad ending would fuck up the story in the tooth. Yeah, because you had to collect all the heart pieces before Imagine in zelda you didn't put all the heart pieces. You fucking nail zelda's dead zelda's dead auto saving Save deleted Uh Yeah, what else you do with your weakland? Uh, I finished danganronpa 2

Yeah, uh boy was that a twisty or more fun version of danganronpa It's way better than the good one like the first one's already really good But this one's significantly better like up there with like virtue's elastor ward and stuff I noticed that every like thread like neogaph has a thread and like some stuff on v as well We're just everything's just like yo spoilers spoilers spoilers Apparently even the core premise of the second game is pure spoilers. Yeah, would you know what it is? Yeah, don't okay stay the fuck away because it's the same thing as in 999 like If you think about the denouement at the end, there are so many bits that would ruin so much of the game for you

So it's the same thing can't really say much about it. What else some of the new minigames are awesome Like the snowboarding minigame is sick. Oh, okay. It is awesome. All right You could put that at the end of any major release Young destiny kind of disappointing, but that's snowboarding minigame No, definitely, but it actually is in danganronpa 2 there is a snowboarding minigame and it's really fun Just lots of good stuff There's an entire like there's an uh There's a novel called danganronpa 0 that goes before danganronpa

I'm pretty sure or after the first one or something and it's only in japan And I think there's fan translations and there's a second novel as well that I never intended to read either of these But the second novel is entirely localized within danganronpa 2 as an unlockable And I'm like, whoa, that's that's huge like what an amount of work went into that That's uh in the darkness of shadow moses. Yeah. Yeah by nastasha So there's a lot of content in there and like, you know, if you're hankering for a good game It's a good game. Make sure you play the first one first though. Yes. Yeah, I'd love to talk about the story But no, you can't do it exactly. It's it's better into a spoiler cast you can have by yourself

No, I don't even want to I don't want to ruin it for the person out there who's like, I don't know But I'll listen to this Just go play it but play the first one Really play the first one the snowboarding minigame the snowboarding minigame. Okay. I will also mandatory in the nose bone on the big strut I would I will play the first one leon. I hope is that all you did with your rig? Uh, it was those two games Uh, and the smash demo. Yes, there's those three titles. I played a lot of smash I I similarly didn't do all that much with my week. Uh game wise I played destiny. We just talked about that

I didn't smash demo feels great really Really wish I was playing the wii version of the game cube controller. Like that's that's all I can think about when I play this It's gonna be dramatically play the wii version with the 3ds as a controller. That would be the ultimate That's a great option. No, it's a great option for people that would want it But like for patty like if you like screen out himself, what am I doing? I I took a long hard look at my backlog and uh, I have four visual novel games I have to finish Both dang and rampas virtue's last reward and the game that I

Went back to because fuck me. I'm an idiot. Why did I not play more of this and I'm I beat case two katawa show of ace attorney dual destinies Okay, holy shit that game's awesome case two is so good case three is not so good really I remember you mentioned that to me right at launch, but I'm playing as athena. I know she's awesome Athena's awesome. The case case three is not okay. Okay. Uh, you should try dang and rampa. It's pretty much ace attorney Yeah, there's no ace attorney. Uh, you'd be surprised, but it's not the character disease. Uh, yeah, that game's awesome I beat the dark souls two new soul isn't it?

Sorry power soul is in it. Yeah power soul is in dang and rampa. Yeah. Really? Yeah. Um, I don't know. She is in japanese so I beat the new ds2. Uh dlc the um crown of the old iron king I mean, I thought that was one of the best jokes of the sneak king video. Um So if everyone remembers me ranting and raving about how amazing the crown of the sunken king dlc This dlc is not as good. It is about half the size. It is about half the difficulty. It has half the bosses So it's just like destiny. Um, yeah, um, it's a much more interesting area I think and you get some really cool gear that I was in and As some really fantastic lore aspects like there are people in this dlc that you have been hearing about the whole game

And one of them is is a boss and it's just fantastic. There's a really interesting mechanic where you are, um Destroying these idols that buff enemies Like you have you you have perishable items that destroy these these ashen idols And you don't have enough to destroy all of them until you have to pick and choose the area Yeah, and so some of them like make enemies really really tough Some of them slow you down some of them curse you and it's pretty interesting But all in all it's not nearly not nearly as good as sounds really interesting as the first one in fact Uh spoiler for one of the bosses

What there are three bosses in this dlc one of them is just smelter demon one of them is literally just smelter demons Again color literally recolored literally. He's just blue. He's blue now and it's desert commando smelter demon And it's night assault desert and it's and it's really disappointing That being said the the final optional boss while still being a man Is probably the best one-on-one fight in the entire game. Also that spoiler you told me was pretty that's there's a spoiler That's a really redeeming. I was wrong about pharaohs. Yeah I saw that tweet under a tumblr post. Yeah, you end up finding out you find out exactly what happened to pharaohs Um, so that's that. I hope the the crown of the ivory king one is

Betta is is closer to the first one's quality Uh, and I hope something cool happens when you feed that guy all the crowns I hope there's another boss fight at the end of that or something Whatever it is. It's gonna make for a hell of the game of the year edition. I sure I guess yeah That's gonna be a hella better version than the original And the other big thing that I did is that uh, are you gonna? Are you gonna put out the theory that the deal second DLC was made by the original team? No, I don't even fucking know anymore. I don't even fucking know anymore

Uh, the other the other only thing of note is that uh, me and the girlfriend watched commando Which she had never seen I watched commando with my girl and like some of her relatives last night Well, we watched half of it. Yes. Why don't we go wait? We've all seen this before we did that last night too That's awesome. What the hell when the when the time came for you to say the line Did just here's what we did when we realized we had all seen the movie and the two girls in the room like said no Wait, we've seen this we go. Oh, let's watch something. We haven't but then I just kept tapping chapter fast forward And we saw the entire movie regardless, but which line do you mean? There's several No, because it's just like do you speak the line out or do you let it happen?

The girls really hated us because me and the other boyfriend of my girlfriend's sister He was commando too and before every line. We're reciting them together so Do you never seen this and commando is now the age Where there's a very weird thing happening when you watch commando particularly with somebody who has never seen it And there's a there's this goofy little thing that I've been seen pumping around on social media lately It's called pose law Which you know godwin's law is that ever eventually any argument will turn into you're a nazi

Right pose law is that any Sincerely held belief if extreme enough will look like a parody of that belief Okay, right So you making fun of a fanboy of a game will actually read identically to an actual fanboy of that game And commando is that for 80s action movies like it looks like a fake fucking movie making fun of the 80s Now this is interesting because I always thought we'd always get into the philosophical debate regarding commando On the special features. I like the director's cut which has more story But yeah

In it they talked to the people like a few years ago all the actors They talked to the writer and the writer commando. Guess what was also the writer of the street fighter vandam movie. Wow But also he wrote the first two diehards. This guy is I am ready for this. This is the Socratic debate of our age. He goes like we were making a camp movie We knew it's like you didn't know you were making the best movie you could have made at the time And it just so happens because you can talk to the guys now they're like yeah, we knew it's campus. Shit. It looks like a fucking joke Isn't it hilarious? The whole time and she's she asked me a question that I had never considered. What was that? Why is this lady helping him?

She helps him for nothing I I saw and I saw like I remember there's tears the The seat had her car and he fights all the cops. No, there's the moment. There's there's a moment It's not the movie doesn't show it and have to look for it Where as like the this woman that gets just thrown into Schwarzenegger's adventure to save his stupid daughter um She sees when one of the guys is pointing at the cop. Yeah, no, she she sees it. She helps a cop Yeah, uh, and and he's about to shoot a shoot Schwarzenegger and she goes no

But she also sees the the the ben horn's brother sully sully, uh, he goes Matrix matrix give me a quarter. I need quarters because he needs quarters to use the telomaphones to call right Yeah, so she sees that and that's the moment she goes And then and that that guy then pulls out a gun and shoots like three cops Yeah, like there's like a cuban guy that throws all his money over there. But that's the moment. Yes. Yes, but like still Her best use of the construction site I've ever served her flip-flop of I'm being kidnapped to I'm going to fly you to a dangerous Drug island. Oh also make you raid an armory. I will shoot a cop a paddy wagon with a rocket launcher For you guy I met earlier today

There's no sense the scene that I'm sure you'll go and I said like when uh, Schwarzenegger's having his fight with Bill Duke In the hotel room, that's right and he goes from one room into the other and you see big eighties boobs. That's right. I'm here Check her out. It's me and then when he Then when he punches bill duke back into the original room, it's like oh, it's so good that bill duke Fell on the pre-installed mortal combat spike that they put in all the hotel rooms It's like in a star wars movie, especially george lucas star wars movies They always got a show where the the lightsaber falls. There's the lightsaber Look at bill there goes the lightsaber in this movie. They do not show you where the spike came

So I know where the spike came from So when there's they walk in in front of the door there's this little uh, this little piece of wall and the wall has Eight five middle bars going from the middle of the waste of the time behind Yeah, but they fight and knock those bars out onto the floor and apparently one managed to stick straight up on the floor For some reason so that when bill duke was punched back into the room in the fall hot That being said it looks like an umbrella like I don't want to fuck that thing is you guys you guys should teach a class I know what it's supposed to be But then it's not that pat and I should do a let's watch a commando at magfest or something

Just do the whole fucking movie. Uh, uh, there's also a when short thing's got the m16 He's got the belt feeding into it from shot to shot the belt's gone. It's shorter. It's longer. It's not there. The gun's different zoom in on his pecs Rippling boobies as he shoots this m60 And the other thing and I was really really happy that my girlfriend asked it repeatedly over and over and over because it's the biggest question In commando, it's how the fuck is Bennett supposed to be intimidating Bennett is this overweight australian 40 year old man wearing chain mail And you are supposed to believe that he is the rival character to schwarzenegger

The biggest buffest man in the world like even at the end where he's shot And he's only got the one arm they have they have a shot of Bennett like bending down with a knife And schwarzenegger is just in man pose and it's absurd There's two there's two seasons in the final fight where they show how intimidating Bennett can be Is like one he has the power to make you grow old It's true by saying you're getting old john And of course when you knock Bennett into electricity and makes him stronger Yes, and he's able to power up and then uh, and I he's basically so bad

I was never able to I was never able to hold on to what the line was But when uh matrix is telling him you want to turn the knife in me Bennett, right? Yeah Bennett's actual line that starts the fight is i'm going to kill you now john Yeah, that's the worst line of villain I'm going to kill you now You're fucking serious because he's insane at that point because he was goading him on It's oh man command like so commando used to be the pinnacle of cinema and it is now the pinnacle of camp and it like It slowly slowly like it's it just metamorphosized like a butterfly. Yeah, no amazing amazing

Oh, man, what a fucking great movie. Uh, really? What did you do? I wanted to say like before I uh, are you going to talk about comic con in general? I was going to say well, I mean I wasn't going to save it, but just like yeah, how's comic con? Yeah, uh, well for me I like I had like an absolute blast and I actually regret showing up as late as I did each day Like I showed up at three every day I should have showed up way earlier because I barely saw much I was I had a lot of things I wanted to film for the comedy and I didn't get to half them

Some of the things just didn't work out because there wasn't enough time But like there was so much stuff. I wanted to like there was more friends that I wanted to visit and I just had a really good time. I thought it was better than last year. There's more vendors Definitely definitely better from last year. They they booked out like extra room apparently next year They're considering getting a bigger further than the palette of congrats and moving in the middle of the summer now Well, fuck right. I mean better. Well, that's it because like like attack with on is it got to scale where They're just too big for good. Remember when it was in Dawson? It was in Concordia. That's what I'm saying

They outgrew Concordia and they're like we're big enough to hit Palet now And meanwhile comic con is like we're fucking too big for this Well earlier than a talk of fun. Yeah, and it's also a sci-fi con. So it's like we're the buy month sci-fi con You have way more people there and be square as leave and I were pointing out like it's just an older audience of people No one's trying to get It's also older, but it's also far younger What? Because they're strollers That's what I mean

We I knocked down a little kid dressed as Finn who was five years old. You did that was a good time I really wanted that water. Yeah. Well, you deserve what you got. You're like superman. Yeah, um, I was overwhelmed I was walking in to be honest. I was like, I can't cover all of this And then I covered all of it. I'm gonna say right now There was a bit I wanted to do with these super bad where I was like Will you pick up the shield and I want everyone around you to start screaming at you to drop it We couldn't get to it The first thing that happened to me when I walked in was I'm uh standing around and I'm

I'm about to get walking somewhere and I hear way in the back You drop your shield and I turn around and I see a guy and he's looking right at me and I'm looking right at him And he's trying real desperate not to get noticed, but I knew it was you Uh, I don't know. I liked it, but like it was really low energy Probably because the audience was just that much older generally speaking. No one's got anything to scream about You know, they're they're sure none of the and then I know not even just like screaming like there was no game There's no game room. There's no game room and the game room is always something I really enjoy Uh, there's there's barely any events like I looked at the event list and it was like

The amount of events is less than the amount held in one day at otaku But the scale of the events is like here's the entire cast of the next generation Oh, definitely But if I don't like star wars or star trek, it's like I don't of course, you know, it doesn't make a difference Whereas in otaku, there's a higher chance that I'll look at 100 events and be like there's five I really like but that but that that seems to be how they do it though It's like yeah throw up a couple events get a few nobody's like us to do a panel and like You know for the most part have it be focused on the exhibitors hall with

cars on one end and and Carl weathers Sitting by himself on the other end. That's the other thing I was going to say like no one was talking to george romero No one he was drumming his fingers on his table But he did have his own separate event which he would back to these people You don't talk to them. You don't even approach that thing because it's 80 bucks for an autograph. I guess I guess he was so lonely I'm sure well. I was sure his agent had a great time I was able to go up ask can I do this can I do that and then not pay

But when I get up there, then I can't not pay. Yeah, exactly You just don't want to go because you don't want and that's the section where they're not covered with the veils That's in the back where it's like you can't even see where chris jericho is hidden. Exactly. Yeah Nathan they'll bring it out one year. Yeah, but I had a really good time I think next year. I'm really going to try to contact them even earlier and get us like a booth to Actually show up at our booth and sell our merch on like epic meal time. Also. Oh my god. That was pathetic Did you see their booth? I dude? I was only there for two hours. Their booth had a guy and an old asian woman at it They're fucking from munchy. I was a bit. Yeah, I saw that

Cooking bacon on Arnold Schwarzenegger's tank. Um, maybe they live in LA now. I know probably But like I I don't know. I don't like commercial conventions. The energy is just different It's just different like I hate fan expo I went like many years in a row and I just Totally lost it and then after going to another couple commercial conventions around I was like, I don't like these And comic on also felt the same to be fair though the artist alley section was the biggest of anything that's been here It was better. Yeah, of course. Half the room was artist alley. Oh, it's way better. Yeah But I you know, I'm not interested in buying prints and unfortunately the north american artist alley culture is prints

I want to buy, you know fan comics and stuff and I bought all 10, right? You know, it's like that's that's as far as my interest with artist alley goes. I don't need plushies and prints Yeah, I gotta agree with with uh with Liam here I I don't care about the artist alley because I don't care about prints I also don't care about fan comics the only the only the place I went last artist alley was out of tachathon to get Stuff from the friends of ours because I really like their stuff and I want to support or that one print of us That one print of us, uh, because I have to get that. Um, I like prints. I just don't have the wall space Well, exactly. I've been snack of prints on my dryer and there's nowhere for aside from our panel

I think was at comic con for two hours and that was plenty because um Walking through that dealer's room all I could think about is boy, I don't read comics like There was just nothing like I saw it like for me nothing of value whatsoever People watching was fun. I see the cosplayers and all that but even then it's like like

I expected the video game presents to be like 80 20 Not 99 1 And no, definitely. Uh, I want and like you said no game room of any kind and I just like what I sci-fi cons There's so much sci-fi out there and again the the audience is older that like anime and video games Dude always expected to be at the minimum. Well, no, I know so Now I don't have to go anymore. No, despite I'll talk with on being like uh like a shit show like I still had a lot more fun there That's that's surprised me because you guys just shadowed the entire show and said it was the worst one ever

This is probably the most fun con I had in a long time. Yeah, but it's like we're thinking like How do I put this I'd rather go to something that's organized. Well something that Hold on. Let me let me put it to you this way Imagine imagine you hate hot dogs and love cheeseburgers. Would you rather have the best hot dog ever? Which is something you hate or a poorly made cheeseburger? I'd not I'd like I wouldn't like a bad thing that I like No No, I imagine I'm saying you hate hot dogs

You hate them the idea of a hot dog pisses you off This is a weird idea because how can you say it's the best hot dog if I don't like it? Okay, well, I was trying to use but I know what you're going for, but it's it's a tough You found enough like uh predator and godzilla things to keep yourself busy also wrestlers doing comedy shows That's very much your alley Um, it all has to do with interest overlap and the quality of the con is a second is after that Like that being said the con organization was way better than oh, yeah, absolutely And I still think this otaku thon was the worst otaku thon I've been to

But I still had more fun at that one because I just there was no stuff that interested me And I hated seeing people I like charge for autographs because it makes me think I don't like them anymore I think charging for autographs is gross. It's gross. I think it's gross that said we charged three bitcoins per autograph Don't say that that's not real Bitcoiners ruin the gp to be fair. We're gonna get it back in autographs What would you do though in a situation where like it was endless thousands that wanted it to get one from you You would do it until you can't do it for as long as you can and then you only get to x people per day and then Yes, tough. Okay. Hey, I don't I would rather I would rather cut people off by how early they showed up

And how much they want it then how willing they were to pay for it anime north a voice actress Who does uh one of my favorite characters an idle master was there? I couldn't get in line any of the days But I I'm fine with that. I get it. She's only there for two hours per day I should have Woken up earlier, which we were all incapable of doing turning out of also this kind of really bugs me when you're talking about it Because charging for autographs cuts out the poor superfan And that's okay. You're right. You're right. You're right. I told you I'm you're talking about the tabloid. This is a really sour sticking point for me

And this is why I don't think I might ever go unless they change their tune Someone touch your butt how resistant they are to actually bring in other stuff Like let's play is that a lot of smarter cons do I think that's really really backwards thing The higher episode of talk with honor all idiots this much. We know for sure because we know don't you know them No, the guy we know Is he in there? He's not super high. He's not super high. Oh, I just I we all I mean at least woolly and I know people who know the talk We do and we know where is comma con they invited they even have to invite us

Let's say if there's some other muncherel group that was like almost of course new thing I I think that's like super commendable and like Really more forward thinking in terms of what people might like were like a whole yeah group of fans is coming So that's unless they change their tune. It's like I think that's really not well I mean, let's be real comma cons of business. They have to be forward thinking It's a it's a it's a Finance driven con not a fan driven con ultimately though at the end of the day That's like sort of there's a difference between like there's the politics there and then there's like the straight up

How much do you care about the following four topics movies the wrestling video games and anime? Well, these things are going to be focused at here and these other things are going to be focused at there You know so you walk in and the people that are setting up shop Regardless of the organization are going to be pandering to you because like these two as opposed to can I get a wrestling anime convention? Can I get An ultimate muscle convention If you did an anime wrestling convention and a video games comic convention, I think ever Okay, so everyone everyone does fan comics of wrestling storylines been an anime like

Not that I don't like you triple h but Perfect in terms just really quickly of my week, uh, I finished finished completely finished Twin Peaks Yeah, you did I watched fire walk with me and I wish I fucking hadn't great. I'm not gonna watch it It's not good boy. I've heard that. Okay. So the thing is is that the last is that the deleted season? No, that's that's the movie that they made when they were like, oh, let's do a second shot And pat you've seen the end of season two. I see hell. Yeah, I have so the end is that the cliffhanger is shit that's ever existed So so in the end of season two They just say let's do all this crazy shit to get interest for a third season didn't work

And fire walk with me is let's not follow up on that at all Let's just do this dumb. Did that person blow up in the bank vault It doesn't matter because this is a weird prequel the hottest chick to ever be on tv Fucking know who cares about her. So the other juicy thing pal wanted to ask you to know about this But like in the second season coop seems to have a thing with a certain hot character Girl character, then they kind of go. Oh, no, we can't do this And then both those two characters get a completely different love interest that both appear and that feel weird Yeah, but billy zane was there

Phantom 2040 But the thing is is that there's a reason why that billy zane's in there handsomming it up He has hair There's a reason why that happens because coop's actual real life girlfriend said, I don't want you kissing that woman I don't blame her because that woman played donna Yeah, and she's like fuck up the storyline because I want I know Yeah, so they go off this complete different rails and the the the co-creator in the interviews of twin peaks mark frost goes For reasons I can't go into we were forced to abandon that love storyline

And I thought that was going to be like the driving force of season two and make it better Twin peaks is an amazing amazing amazing thing that is clearly brought down by a single network decision To reveal the killer too early and and it's it's they reveal the killer like Like early season two and then the like the the murder plot was supposed to be the string that held the viewer on So that lynch could trick you into watching his dumb bullshit But then they revealed the killer and people said oh and then turn the fuck show off They didn't give a fuck about that weird bullshit, which is what I wanted Of course

I thought the way to kind of do it differently is to reveal the killer at the end of the first season then have a new murder In the second season, uh like deadly premonition did twin peaks a lot better than just win pieces So you say Veronica marz it solve the case and then something else happens right after you finish Why not? Be a sequel a tv sequel Why not and the other thing is I told Pat about this off camera that for people who haven't watched win peaks Uh the fucking map in deadly premonition is modeled after the map That's shown in a shot of like the the the the kind of layout of the city of twin peaks

It's the same It's just towards her it's still that asset. Yeah, but he's never watched the show He's never watched the show What kind of game is deadly premonition you watch our thing or play it yourself I bought the whole thing because it was on sale recently. I guess I should you should die, but I want to watch twin peaks first That doesn't matter. Should I not you can do either. Okay. I'm really curious to know where you're going to fall on deadly pee Yeah, um, have you played it? Uh, yeah, he followed it all over. He hates it. Um, I'm not on board, man Uh deadly uh not deadly premonition

Twin peaks it ends and you feel deeply unfulfilled and you feel You're screaming for closure, but and you will never get it. So when you watch fire walk with me, it's really Um, but it what a fucking ride like that bad ending does not negate the weird fun You had along the way But by the way, I know that some of us are like, ah, I'm done with retail But the the blu-ray boxer deli premonit uh The blu-ray boxer twin peaks is like this box that you open up vertically and it's a page And there's like a little flap and you pull it up and each one has a different image a pie

A cup of coffee and you keep pulling it and pulling and you get to all the discs There's 10 discs on this thing. Yeah, and you get to the end and you're like, oh, this is the last take It's the last day of special features And I looked and deep inside the box in the back of the package You guys see one more flap and you open up the flap and it's a little piece of burnt paper That says fire walk with me and you could pull it out and look at it. I was like who David Lynch only David Lynch. He was there for the party for the blu-ray box That's like that fucking risk game

They put out a little bit ago where like as you play it you write on the cards and like it changes risk legacy And there's yeah, and there's an envelope in in risk legacy that says do not open ever under any conditions Yeah, and the whole thing is you're supposed to just burn the game at the end Because you update the rules every time you play. Yeah, so you never read it. You just burn the box In terms of playing things just really quickly my girlfriend's playing through I read dead redemption and I Stopped playing red dead redemption because I played it for 20 hours and I said, oh, I'm 43 percent complete I'll get back to this someday And he never did and never did but now she's getting past the point where I was and I forgot how

The the bullshit of red dead redemption is the best bullshit in the world It's where you fail something or you get fooled and you're just stuck in the desert And you know what I mean? It's the best where it's I still get fooled by a lady saying oh help me stranger Hell me and you get off your horse and five guys just bush the shit whack the shit out of you Grab your shit and run off with your horse, and I'm just like hello Any oh Armadillo is 40 miles that way There's no coach

I I firmly believe red dead has the Greatest of all time bug in a video game ever horse lady. No not these are strong. These are strong bugs The cougar loading in the person model and attacking you the horses doing similar things Nothing will top the horse carriage Spawning two inches underneath the ground So that the horse's feet are stuck underneath the ground And the physics and bounding mocks caused the carriage to shake and shake and shake and rock And violently shake until it blasts off into the sky like team rock

That is like you see that shit all the time. It's amazing. That's a sky room classic too Yeah, that happened when we were playing it was just with our horse But it was stuck in the ground and and it looked like it was going to blast off But then kind of got caught up on a tree and then it was like this It works better with the carriages because the carriage is usually above the ground And the horses are usually slightly below and it starts to go really nuts and They can go they can go past the draw distance if they shoot hard Any bug in any game that just launches you is the best

I had that in burnout paradise It might be a bit more harsh on this but when I was playing red dead again, I go this still looks really great It's fantastic. Yeah, but it's god damn shame. I never got a PC before I was gonna say that is one of those games where I've talked about this before I was like Tomb Raider definitive edition are you serious this definitive edition are you serious that just came out Do it to red dead If you did it to red dead on ps4 exponent pc, that would Put some more stuff in there put undead nightmare in there. Holy shit

Give me 10 missions as as the final character. Sure something right by that. Well, whatever. I don't care Yeah, just add a little value add all that. No, sorry. I wasn't ooing at your value I was ooing at your spoiler. Oh, that's the final. Oh, yeah That's not the game came out fucking. I know. I know it's not I didn't I don't know what he meant. Yeah Yeah, good. You should see if you want like a that was fine to me if you want an open world game Like any of us can lend you a copy. Oh, I know an op and op and ethania in it as characters I think what just happened with me and Liam bears mentioning

And that's when somebody says something very subtle that is a spoiler, right? And if you haven't played the thing it will go right through your brain and you will never think of it again Sure, but I instant someone who has played or watched the thing goes that's a spoiler That's a spoiler Jeff Gershman talked about this like two three years ago, and he was completely right. Of course. I know what I'm saying That's what I'm doing. Don't call it out unless it's yeah, that's right. So like in person for golden There's a spoiler in that intro. I'm not gonna tell you what the fuck it is, but there's it's there. Even I know Oh, yeah

Right, yeah, but if you if I pointed at that moment to someone who didn't play the games Just spoiler right there. They know of course, but even just saying this no one will figure it out No, I wish I was unless you beat it I was showing off the the intro to my friends and I was like, okay, so check out this really cool intro Don't check it out too hard Yeah, um All right, that was the longest intro we've ever done Nothing. It's letter time

There's news there is So we're gonna start with the biggest news of the most dollar worthy. Yeah, because we're an hour and 40 into the fucking podcast So we better um Microsoft buys mojang, which means they bought minecraft For 2.5 billion dollars. I find it shocking. It's that much now I want uh that said flicker and other just a billion. Well, yeah, but like well Instagram was like a

Oh, wait. No, sorry 970 million, but I was gonna say are there more users of twitch or minecraft? I don't know that. I don't know anything about when you get when you get into their level Are there more people playing minecraft than people that watch the nba? Yes, probably. Let's not even get into all the minecraft merchandise stream minecraft on twitch Of course. Yeah, it's crazy. So this I think I think um this type of thing Is weird Because it's I get the acquisition. Yeah, but it's clearly trying to not just buy the game and the company But the community and yeah what it represents, which you can't do

So I remember when the Tomb Raider Exclusivity kerfuffle came out I said it and Liam you seem to mostly agree with me that I am frustrated with microsoft's Like core plan of instead of spending money making studios They spend enormous sums of money just buying studios and they buy them for what that studio is has done right now And as proof of this notch just fucking quit. He quit Not he helped facilitate the deal. They and then he peaced out I read the thing and he was like I've been wanting to do this for a long time and I'm tired of trying to

I'm not I'm not I'm not throwing shit at notch here. That was a great writer. I'm talking about He's talking about the point. He didn't mind mojang to get the next minecraft. You bought it for minecraft Yes, and it's it's it's short-sighted And they do this for everything and it's frustrating. I would much rather have a super vibrant like dream cast First party with 2.5 billion dollars. Sorry. Sorry. You're pulling a bobby cutting one. Yeah, you can make five 10 games with that shit. You could make 20 games You can make 25 games with that which you got to do Look to the future for the next project like bobby did and you get bungee for the next halo game

Of course That turned out Oh, that's on the that's on the that's on the docket because that turned out great. So so they didn't well they they sold through It doesn't matter. It's not Let's finish this story. Let's finish this story because I want to talk about the bullshit of buy-in and selling sure But it's I don't want to say I think it's not unfair But like I think there's some companies that do need to buy like do need to make acquisitions Like nintendo needs to make acquisitions. I think western devs. They need to buy some they need to buy

Western devs because western devs will never support nintendo in any like I think they need to just start talking to them No, no, no, you know what? Straight to the sex. You know what talks buy them money I don't know. I think sony has demonstrated the power of words more than anyone It's true with like just look at like the vita still having games deep enough bow all it took was words and And also money, but you can't For example, nintendo can't use words They should well they try no one wants. They just have to get better. Hey, you guys should do better. We're so great

Why don't you think we're so great? Okay, whatever And sony's got the funding program don't they they do but like not many things participate That's why I think just buying someone is like the only actual solution I think I think there's a part of the minecraft thing that's really interesting where if you watch the video with uh, mr. Spencer, um, he you know He goes so far as to drop the word playstation where it when he says like competiting Competiting Competing platforms will still have minecraft and we'll still have support from minecraft. Those deals were made. I cannot make them

Well, but he was also saying and you know wish I could yeah And he was also saying and like even in like the press releases in the q&a It's like these versions will continue to get support Well, they have to like if they did it like But where where i'm going with this is like it looks like they actually want to just Keep the audience and just make this money back A bunch of fans are going to craft some pitchforks and then stand outside their offices Well, I I think remember they get money on every ps4 copy of minecraft sold now

Well, every every skew. Yeah, that is mobile But it's like they figured out a way to use ps4's popularity Well, but more than that too. They get the merchandising they get the books They get the toys they get the shirts on a straight business deal pretty good Exactly, uh that being said I make that deal infinitely disappointed that they just continue to buy shit instead of funding their Fucking fucking fun stuff with that money But yeah, no props to notch on the the the bullet point to this headline where he's like, you know I kind of find it weird that I became a symbol and well as he said I got pushed into the spotlight

I got pushed into the spotlight. Yeah, I did say like every time I wanted to make something for myself I kept having to run minecraft and and and he tried and he wanted to leave mojang before but they said you're important to the company culture So he's like, all right, I'll stick around which I would say he probably That totally makes and you see the inside of their fucking offices. Hell. Yeah, that's a personal reflection in there. Yeah, absolutely Um, but you know, he's like and I want to go do the things that I did before and if anything starts picking up traction I'll probably abandon it. Yeah He can do that now because that guy is real Super rich that guy can leave however many jobs he wants to go to the moon. You can go to the moon

Those types of people show up in game development every so often that just hits it big but never wanted to hit that big Crush the guy who made flabby bird. Yeah New yin and chris tucker chris tucker showed up made his millions and disappeared Yes, rush out, but I was also gonna say um Oh my god, I can't believe I forget his name now other black actor comedian guy who's really popular Not any Jeff Chan because he's stuck around. No, I had a show in HBO. Chappelle. Chappelle. Chappelle is the same way I'm rich enough. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely

um This this kind of leaving like raised my opinion of notch a bit more because Uh, I remember saw that tweet where I was like, that's disgusting thing to say. Do you know what I'm talking about? Uh, yeah, he got it. He got it. He got in shit recently because he he rants on twitter and I forgot what he said specifically But there's a big thing recently. I don't think it was as maybe this is a different thing But I saw that he just wrote a comment saying like It could have been with any system that had this same sort of support Like if it was the vita if it was some other system that like is struggling

But like has a good indie community Who's just basically like, uh-huh the Wii U e-shop is such a dead thing The 3ds e-shop like, uh, no one can make like what a kick in the face to all the indie game developers That's really not too. Yeah, that do have success on any platform. Yeah Yeah, but don't have money It was a console warrior type of tweet type thing and when you're that influential you could be a troll like on on twitter Whatever. Yeah, like me. Yeah But if you're a gigantic influential guy, that's like a standard of what like indie devs can maybe not achieve

But like could could that's like a kick in the face to anyone that works really hard to Make an ecosystem better make games for the platforms you like. That's the end of it The whole thing he said though with where it's like that Let's come that that that just kind of happened without him even knowing or being around Yeah, you know, it was just this was some of some of the like legal by lines that were going through the office And he didn't write them and he's like I just found myself enshrouded in this controversy out of nowhere. I woke up blame lawyers. Fuck Always so it's like, yeah, I that that makes sense. That was after he stopped working on minecraft, too

He hasn't been working on minecraft for a while. I he handed it off to that Yeah, whatever. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, that's that's the big fucking transaction today Uh, we got a we got a bunch of small transactions that added up to a big number Starting with destiny. That's that's destiny. I'm talking about this. Yeah. Uh, yeah So so motherfucking bobby kotic, right still kicking satan incarnate still the evil overlord of activision That's correct. Uh, he he says that destiny is the largest new ip launch in games history I don't doubt it. I believe that every every leave a big part of that was two years. There's a new one Well watch dogs was the last person to claim this

Person I believe person New ip can be big now new ip can be and assassin screed one fucking killed it did like five million out the game But the la noir killed it. Yeah, the thing is that right? Yeah You got the rock star and yes, so that's the thing It's when a brand becomes so associated with the game franchise that you see this a new ip as a fucking sequel This happens. Yeah, when uh, when they they came out when he came out and said this though The follow-up was then like, okay, uh The question did they make their 500 million back? Yes, I did and

The answer is they sold over 500 million in sell through which is not into consumers hands But into retailers hands. Yes, exactly And anything unsold will get returned But it sounds like they're making a shit ton of money and they will easily make a profit Oh, and you say anything unsold but like what unsold this game is selling like people are The Supposedly, uh, this is anecdotal, but supposedly the sales have slowed dramatically since the reviews hit I could believe which I just wanted to just jump on just for context

Uh, I went to metacritic and I'm seeing a very hilarious, uh thing. I'm seeing destiny at 76 And Naruto shippuden ultimate ninja storm revolution at 77 nice, which no, that's not objective But boy is that funny Because they came out it's goofy, but um, whatever. Yeah, no, uh That review I don't even want to get into it. But yeah, that review explanation Was that was lies? That was like they didn't want bad reviews to hurt sales, which it appears it might do They're still gonna make tons of money off of day one. Yeah off of the the alpha and beta To be fair, it's a secret one got not great reviews and bar go is never going away. No, that's that's that's how the business

That's not forever And uh, this I expected an 80 and I got like a 75 and that's why I'm disappointed where you expected nothing I expected nothing at 75 that said my favorite game of last generation has like a 68 metacritic So it's not perfect. No, but it's still a decent like brahman. Yeah a once over. Anyway, um, That 500 mil if I'm not mistaken, uh, isn't it just retail? That keeps in mind. It's not digital. Not digital. Well, it's sell through for retail. So there you go Yeah, pat you spent a hundred bucks on a digital. I did. Well, you spent 60 bucks on a digital 70 70 bucks on a digital Is being estimated depending on what your market is as like for the console market is somewhere between 10 and 20 percent right now

So that's still a big million dollars. Yeah, that's a huge deal. Oh, yeah. It's only growing. Yeah Uh, so I mean they fucking made that money back And if they didn't they're gonna also I want to call out warren specter for saying some dumb shit. What do you say? Warren specter, uh Goes out and says all these people buying destiny, which is online only. Why are people why were people mad about the xbox again? Oh shame on you. Was it him? It wasn't that fucking At the island picture was warren specter. Wasn't it that journalist who's a big xbox fan boy warren elliot? Oh god, was it warren elliot? I was like deus x guy. I don't think it was warren elliot. Yeah, exactly

I'm gonna retract everything until I get the name right, but it was a warren guy. What a dumb statement What a dumb statement. There's such a huge difference between a game that's online and a fucking console. It's online. Come on. Yeah Yeah, it's probably warren elliot. I'm sorry. That's a specter. You're a smart guy. You made deus x Honestly, just for that. Warren specter can do dumb shit for his whole life because he made deus x including epic mickey one or two Um, how do you feel about it? I'll sort those. Yep. Epic mickey one is not. It's all right. You're right. Epic mickey two. I'm not going to just finish out. You know what? I even try. I even rented that just to see if we could do anything with it. We could not. I respect the art decision. Yeah. Oh, yeah, definitely. Like that could have just been earthworm gym 3d.

But it's really bad when your sequel's worse. It's really bad. Video games are the only medium where the sequel's routinely better. So if you fuck your sequel up, then you fucked up. Well, here's the question pat. Do you feel that sequels with episodic releases are fucked up or is that bad? Here we go. Here we go. Can you elaborate on that? I know exactly what he's talking about. It's a little too broad. Resident Evil 2, Revelations 2 is going to be episodic release. Now let's let's be clear. It's going to be an episodic release. And they're all going to be out in one month. But you can also buy it in a season pass format, or you can just wait for it to be a boxed retail game. It depends on the game's structure. So Resident Evil Revelations 1 had a very disjointed episodic manner. It even said last time on Resident Evil Revelations. I'd like to point out that every mainline RE game and Revelations may as well all be episodic.

RE1, RE2, RE3... Sorry, did I say since 4? Because I meant since 4. No, you did not. You did not. I meant since 4. Okay. Because they all have clear chapter breaks. Yeah, sure. I could see Resident Evil 6 have been brought into as Leon, Chris, and Jake. And Ada. And Ada, sure. I could have seen that. If it was sold that way. Yeah, sure. Absolutely. I don't see a problem with this. I think one of the best horror games and best games period of the last generation was Siren Blood Curse. Now, you lost a lot. That game was hurt when you bought it and played it in one chunk because it was clearly supposed to be episodes. But there's way too many chunks. Yeah, that's ridiculous. It took me a long time to download that. Yeah, I don't have a problem with this. What I have a problem is that Claire looks like shit. Claire looks like fucking shit. She looks terrible. I wrote that. I showed that picture of her on my Twitter where she looks like fucking Grumpy Cat. She was sitting there and like I said, she looks like an outbreak design. That's right.

I have a problem with the name Terra Save. That's awful. I don't know what that is. Okay, well, you've got to play Resident Evil Revelations. Oh, yeah. Which introduces Terra Grigia. Yeah. Which is the worst dumbest Resident Evil plot thing ever. So here's... What is possibly my favorite... I love Resident Evil. And I love Resident Evil's dumb plot. And we mean you, and we can argue about the quality of Revelations one all day and we'll disagree vehemently. But we can all agree that Revelations once plot went fucking, jumped that shark so fucking hard. Oh my god. The shark was somewhere in space. And it wasn't just that. It was the character designs. It was some of the new mods. Invisible Hunters. Fuck off. Fuck off with that. That's ridiculous. And that would be the tits and just the writing. And it feels like... I said this about Dark Souls 2 and I'm going to say it about Revelations and people are going to climb up like, it feels like fucking fan fiction. It feels like fan fiction. Absolutely. Revelations is nuts, obviously. I can appreciate that. But at the same time, I'm like, come on, this is fun. Playing the game and it's pacing is still like the where they should go. That was nothing wrong with that. It was actually a bit scary.

It was better. The enemy design needed better. But like it says in the details, the main character is Claire. The support character is the last character that we should ever show up. Because Barry's entire deal was, my family cannot get wrapped into this. No. No, my family. No, no. No, no, no. Here's my daughter. So here's what's really, really, really frustrating. Because Evil has this tendency of introducing new characters and bringing back old characters, etc., etc. Leon will be with us forever. Chris will be with us forever. Claire has been absent for a long, long time. Only appears in CG movies. It only appears in CG movies. But Rebecca and Barry, people have been bitching for their inclusion since the last games they were in, which was like a decade plus ago. And Warren Burton takes Rebecca's spot as her exact job.

It is as a medic support character. And it's like, for fuck's sake, it's like, here's the daughter of the character you want, first of all, doing the job of the character that would do it better. And she looks like, I don't know, is that scene? Is that hipster? Is that punk? I don't know. She looks like shit shit. She looks like the girl from Murdered Souls. Great. She looks better than her. I think more is design. I do like the setup of Claire can die, and that's the end of the game, but the support character gets killed, but she gets knocked down, and she's out of it for a little bit. They're trying to do zero again.

Which is, I commend them for trying to do it again. Hopefully you can do it better. Hopefully. But you had Mikami around to do it the last time. If it plays half as good as Revelation, it'll be really good. If it's half as good, I don't think it'll be that. I really liked Revelation. I think it sounds like it could be better, because I like how the dynamic sounds, because Revelation was still a shoot, shoot, bang, bang, it was just a better scenario. But I like this more, one of them just has a flashlight. She's the one that we could totally do an awesome co-op. It sounds really interesting. I just hope the enemy design is better, because that was probably the biggest problem with Revelation.

Just sludge. Sludge and weird, not zombie-mans. Liam, you might be excited by some of this, but apparently Shiggy is producing three Pikmin short films. Yes. These were announced a good while ago, and they were supposed to be really small, but they've clearly expanded in scope. I'm really excited for them to come out. Remember when Advent Children was supposed to be a 30 minute thing? That'll save Nintendo. That'll save Nintendo Advent Children.

I'm really excited for those Pikmin shorts. I'm more excited for those than Pikmin, because I don't give a shit about Pikmin. I can believe it. For Pikmin 3, the wait was what? How many years? Ten. And for a while, it wasn't even a wait, it was just a question mark. So the fact that there's any Pikmin media coming out, I'm really excited to see it. It seems like the type of franchise that could go into a little QC. It could do it.

That could be an anime show if you want to care. Just give them all personalities. If I'm not mistaken, these were originally supposed to be like three or four minute shorts that showed in movie theaters before movies. Really? You know, in that kind of like advertisement kind of way. Wow, okay. My bridge said, oh, these are things for Nintendo video. As far as I knew, those were the original Nintendo videos stopped. No longer exists.

But the app is still on my thing. Doesn't work. Yeah, they were originally supposed to be that, but it seems like they've expanded, and I'm really excited to see the final products. Especially if they look as good. They probably look a lot better than Pikmin 3 visually speaking. I would hope so. They're a fucking CG short. I'm really excited to see them.

I hope I can buy them somehow. I hope it opens up the door to have other franchises get a little... I feel like Nintendo has the best catalog of people to make this kind of thing. I still think it's Capcom. There's a sheer variety of stuff. I think Capcom has a better roster, but I think Nintendo's roster is better suited to this. Yeah, okay. I just want to see F-Zero.

I know, I know. Well, there's an F-Zero. I know, no looking at anime, but a new one. I want to go see F-Zero in the movie with Vin Diesel as Captain Falcon. Oh, Captain Falcon, when will you get your own cam? It's true. I love that fucking thing. Twist the knife, Bennett.

See what's going on in there. Speaking of things that are no longer available. JoJo HD heritage from the future has been pulled the fuck off. Shit, I never bought it. Okay, you can get it on USPSN for We Don't Know How Long. I will do that. Hang on, are you sure it's gone from Canadian PSN? Because the moment this was gone from Xbox, I bought it from Canadian PSN like two weeks ago.

Okay, so it's gone from Xbox Live and it's gone from Europe PSN. Oh, okay. I am frantically searching for it right now. I bought it because it's the best JoJo game. There you go, hurry up. I didn't say it, thinking anyone would disagree with me. No one's reaching out for comment, no one's gotten back to them yet. It's probably just the right Zayla.

We didn't count on having another game that got pulled. It's unfortunate that JoJo probably went. Get AVP online, AVP, beat them up on there before Sega, I don't know. It's really unfortunate that JoJo's resurrection that they did probably went not so great for them, where they tried to bring back this HD game and just nobody bought it. Wait, Darkstalkers? No, JoJo. You're right.

It's gone right now. From Canadian. Why the fuck is this showing me in pounds? How did this happen? Why won the European music? How did this happen? I can't explain that. They had to release it for $20 and stuff because they said, we don't think the audience is big enough.

And it was before Stardust started as an anime. I'd love to have seen if it would have went better now, but who's to say? There's so many things I'm European, who's to say. That's kind of like when I was so pissed that they never released the Berserk PS2 localized when Berserk was actually getting a foothold in North America, where Eidos decided, let's release this random Berserk Swordman game back in 1999. One super hardcore fan who just pushed it through. And I guess in that respect, it makes me think of Namco,

who by some probably paperwork accident localized Sword Art Online, right when it's popular here. And it's like, that's really what you should do. That was not intentional. That was totally a mistake. I can't believe I can't get him out here. Sorry, Willie. I'm going to make a motion. Tell me if this is on the docket. No, it's not.

Okay, so a new Epo game got announced for the PS3, and I'm super excited. With a five minute long trailer that has no gameplay! That's fine, because the Godzilla game had no gameplay at first. Now that there is Godzilla gameplay, it actually looks fun. And that's also Bandai. And I'm super hyped because that one screenshot didn't look real. It looked like punch out. Are you buying it? Hold on.

So it is totally gone from European PSN. Which Willie just said. It is totally still on Canadian and likely American PSN. So I get it now. I'm adding it to my basket right now. You likely have hours. Well, yeah. Person at home, you're likely fucked.

Do you know if they're showing Epo at TGS on Namco's stage? I did not see. That'd be super good. They have a really big block on their live stage, devoted to like, manga spin-offs and stuff. Then I would like to think. And it also comes out in December, just like Godzilla. My PS3 is going to get lots of playtime in December.

But I'm really excited because it seems more like a retelling of the manga and not like, trying to be a boxing game. Where there's stats and things. It's like, it's a fucking, you watch it because it's over the top manga. Definitely. And not before the technical aspects of the Dempsey role. Shut the fuck up. It's funny that we talk about Namco spin-offs right after I mentioned Sword Art.

Because they really seem to have their head on straight when it comes to like, not spin-offs, but adaptation games. They really do. Like, hey, we don't play those Naruto games, but apparently they get better and better every time. Oh, I'm not certain. Actually, I jumped back in at the God.

After the Naruto Met Hero series was done, they made the ones that were running around in a circular arena. I forgot what those are called. In North America, they're called Flash of Ninja. No, no, no, no, no. That's the Nintendo stuff. I'm talking about the Sony stuff, the PlayStation stuff. Yeah, it was, it was...

Right. That stuff got way better. And surprisingly, Dragon Ball is the opposite. Yeah, Dragon Ball is the one where it was the best very near the stars. I don't even know what Dragon Ball is anymore. I mean, do any Ippo or Victoria's Boxers or whatever the fuck games just rip off punch-out? No, that's the thing. Don't understand.

People, please correct me, but I have Victoria's Boxers 1, Victoria's Boxers 2 on the PS2, then I have Victoria's Boxers Revolution on the Wii. All of them control... Like, I do not get them. So, one of those box games where it's like me and William said, oh, you're not punch-out or fight-night? Guess what?

You failed. Yeah, no. Because I don't understand the control scheme. Maybe I need to play it again, but all of them just don't play fun. Like, they're trying to be a thing. It's like, no, just... We all want to go back to the classic controls of Dawn King's Prize Fighter. Or Rocky Legends.

People figured out there are two ways to do a boxing game, and it's punch-out, which is... Or wrong. There's arcade style, which is punch-out. Then there's sim style, which is... Fight-night. Yeah. Now, this is one of those things that I will fight tooth and nail to anyone.

There's two ways to do a boxing game. Punch-out or wrong. That's it, you know? There's one EPO game that's on the GBA. It's just what? It's punch-out. Yeah. And if you say...

I don't know. I haven't played it, but I looked at videos. It looked okay. You should grab a wrong. I'll try to grab a wrong. And if you say the fight-night way, then what you really mean is the Pacific Rim slash UFC way. Yeah.

Because that's all that is. Yeah, I won't take fight-night round three from anyone. Knockout Kings was always garbage. They never got it together. I'm really excited to see gameplay. I could see five seconds and be just like, oh, that's punch-out. Okay, good.

That's all I care about. There's a pretty good fight-night knockoff on iOS, actually, surprisingly. Oh, I think I know this one. I can't remember what it's called, but it's actually pretty good. I think you and me were looking at pictures of it or a video and we were like,

that looks okay. Yeah. Speaking of adaptations, here's our segment, Why Not Japan? Why Not? Why Not? Is it about reason-locking?

No, it's about the fact that Watson is now a gothic lowly. Oh. Why Not? He's not gothic. And you mean Watson of Sherlock and Watson. That's correct. She is gothic. She has the dress with the little plumes.

Well, I mean, when the justice system works the way it does in that universe, why not? Better than the fan fiction I've been reading. I was going to say that really sucks, but it doesn't, because the actual Sherlock design is cool. Yeah, it is. So it's like...

It's a little bit of fucking whatever, zippers and... Numeroes. A little bit of numera happening. Just a bit. The toggle's on and some extra straps that don't need to be there. But all in all, it's fine. We're talking about the great ace attorney,

the Japanese Phoenix Wright game that takes place in the past in the Meiji era. I mean, the writing quality of Phoenix Wright is always so good that I can look past almost any of the character designs. No, I know. It's like, of course Japan would take Watson and do that, because it's like...

I don't know. You said you would hold this. But at the same time, it's more interesting than just having another old guy. I wonder if I saw this, but someone's like, so where the fuck are these guys from? The little Britain area of the little Japan of Los Angeles? Eat your burger sushi, Sherlock.

But I say Japan, because America had their stab at it as well in their show called Elementary, where Watson was also female, but Watson was an Asian detective woman that was like Lucy Lube. You mean Lucy Lube? I didn't know.

Yeah, it's really terrible. There's Lucy Lube as Watson, but why the fuck not? But that's fine, but that show is like, everyone's like the show is terrible compared to Sherlock. Elementary was badly written. No, like Sherlock and the Robert Downey movies

are like, well, the first one, at least I didn't see the second one. The second one's alright. But those two are fine watching for Sherlock stories. Wait, those aren't related to each other? No. Oh no.

Dude, I ignored all of them. No, Cumberbatch. Who? The guy with the British name. Con! Oh, okay. The guy, the British guy with the weird face that all the girls love.

Con. You mean every British guy? Oh, is he the guy who you can like, not even say his name, but you know it's his name? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The one that's not looking. Huber Cumberdale.

Yeah, okay. I know him. Huber Cumberdale. Dude, shut up, Salivators! No, Salivators! Shut your fucking mouth! Yeah, I know. Okay, I know the one.

There should be a Salivators Kickstarter, and it's like, what is it for? It's just for salad fingers. He needs money! He needs money because he needs to scratch rust. They're planning to, if successful, turn this into its own spin-off franchise. I bet.

It's a good idea. Yeah. It's a good place to go. Is this little girl going to get possessed by a ghost and then bust her chest out of her dress like Pearl does? Finally. Is that what's going to happen?

Who knows, man? Who knows? What's that fucking, before Cross-Boring, there was the game that has Cosmos doing the same thing where her cleavage is her power. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Endless Frontier. Endless Frontier.

I think the shorthand is getting a little unmanageable at this point. Well, because you just said, what game is that with Cosmos before Cross-Boring? And anyone who doesn't know about that, how the fuck are they supposed to know what you're talking about? All you need to know is that the source of Cosmos' power is her cleavage.

That's right. That's canon, though. It's not id, you know, no matter how much I wanted to believe it was. Hey, speaking of Cosmos, I'm throwing you the ball. I have missed the net. Mr. Harada, who we now have a beautiful painting of

on every wall. Yes, true. He has said on the internet, I really want to do an HD remake of Xenosaga. Oh, I missed that tweet. Wait, Saga? Yeah. Okay.

Yeah, and if there's enough fans, and he's like, if there's tens of thousands of fans who will hold their hands up in public. All the HD-ification will not fix those games as much roaches as they seem. Namco hasn't really done that many HD remakes of anything. Not really.

Like Konami, Capcom do, but Sony does. Namco did Tekken Tag. Hell, even fucking Nintendo has. Now the question is, will he get Tekken Team to do this personally? He knows, man. It's pretty much his boys, right?

Yeah, yeah. Tekken Team, you do what I say. Before you get that, how about you do an HD remake of fucking Death by Degrees? Come on, the Nina Williams game. So me and Pat got really fucking angry when we saw how everything about that game is awesome and sick, except for everything about the controls and fighting.

It's the controls. It's the controls. I've never seen what could have been an amazing game destroyed by the controls. Because it should have been Tekken Force mode better, and it was not. It was, we're trying to do something else. But everything else about it,

the cutscenes, the story. Oh, no. The move list. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No. You see that giant Tekken move list in every Tekken game? Put it in a non-Tekken game. What a good idea.

What a great idea. Actually, what a great idea. Amazing. That would actually put an HD version of that and just make the controls standard. Like, we would fucking play that shit. How long until Harada gets his Koji Pro? Until we get Harada?

I think Tekken Team is halfway there. That's what I'm thinking. That's what I'm thinking. The only difference is Namco is not in Dire Straits, and they make tons of money off every other division. Yeah. Whereas Konami's like... We're just talking about every other division.

At anime adaptations that like... I like to think that eventually they're just like, I don't want to even listen to Harada's bullshit anymore. Just give him his own building. Just give him his own building down there. Split the building down the middle. I can't deal with him punching wife and pillows all day. And localizing Crossbow.

I can't deal with the fact that I've never seen his eyes. Even in the interviews, right? He's just got big paintings of himself everywhere. When him and Itagaki like walk into the same room, just the ultimate stare down that no one could see. They keep putting on more layers of glass as you try to beat each other. Itagaki has DOA 5 going.

Oh right, you were fired. And then he suplexes him. I still love Itagaki's like five worst games of all time, where he just says Tekken 1, Tekken 2, Tekken 3, Tekken 4, Tekken 5. Honorable mention! Dude, that's the... And they both wear shades all the time. It's the best rivalry in Japan.

Well, not anymore. Now it's just his outdated. He has to put in like Tekken 10, 2, and Tekken... Not anymore, because Harada fucking won. And now he's going to destroy a game that will... He will destroy Japan with a game that will take over Itagaki's life. Exactly. It's a summer lesson.

Oh, that's the best way to win an incident. Not really. Well, it's a bit like how Tekken 7 is going into full arcades for testing next month. The game that we thought had nothing done is done, apparently. I don't know about nothing, but yeah. Well, it looked like how it's just like all we have is trailers of CG. Yeah, they didn't start it after TTT2. Like, it was going.

They said the graphical quality was somewhere around 50%, and it was like 20 characters going to be in the low-test. That's probably why they're not showing anything if the graphical quality is still only barred at 50 by them. Right now, I'd like to think that both of them are racing to be best friends with Nintendo. Slowly, but surely. You know, it's like getting a guy who's like, Nah, man, Devil's Third is going to put me on the map to see what way it is coming, you guys. Namco has always been really close with Nintendo, so he's got an advantage there.

But he's also got a disadvantage because he's giving summer lessons to Sony and not Nintendo. Well, Nintendo doesn't have anything to play with. Nintendo's virtual Wii U Gamepad could be a camera that would see two or clothes. Can you tape it to your eyes? No? Well... You can tape it to something. Use your style. It's a shame that Yagaki left Tecmo because I was going to say they have a really good relationship with Nintendo too, and that would have been...

I wouldn't say it's a shame he left after he molested a lady. But I mean, just so that this rivalry could be even more of a competitive rivalry. There's a great tweet, but I saw it and it was just kind of like... It was like, yeah, summer lesson, that's nice, but check this shit out. And it's just a virtual boy with two pictures of Zontan printed out for my eyes. Ah, great. Fantastic. That's fun. Amazing. Goddamn. Liam, you need to be careful. I'm glad that the new 3DS is coming out that you can purchase it soon because you are probably going to be one of the people that breaks his slide pad.

Apparently this is a problem with Smash. And this is not just the new one, this is the old ones too. I saw those pictures and I was like, wait, and I grabbed my 3DS and I was like, and I was like, I can see how this is happening? This is not going to happen. No, these are the same people that throw Wii remotes into their televisions. Do any dash dancing. Try not to do any of that crazy shit, and you probably will be okay. I think it's the same people as the people who scratch their screen to shit on the world ends with you and Wendon. Yeah, yeah.

Where I look at my 3DS and I have hundreds of hours on both of those games and nothing. Near pristine. But at the same time, Smash is a game where just playing it legitimately, like often, without going nuts, you will need a new Wavebird. I've never replaced my GameCube controller. Really? I have hundreds of hours on it. I've never replaced it. Wow, that's crazy.

I'll show you my Wavebird because if you look at it, you'll see the stick is starting to get a little bit loose. But like, just don't be one of those guys who's fucking like hammering your controller. I just think after the first, how many thousands of hours on this game. Of course, time to replace the console. Of course. They're not overrated. They're underrated. Definitely. If you're playing well, then you have to.

I looked at those and I was like, this is going to happen. It's going to happen. People are going to be breaking sticks. Watch out, you guys. Be careful. Watch out. It's funny that the second Sakurai handheld thing has a control thing about it. Well, this one at least is damaging the console. I wouldn't call it the second because Smash has always destroyed controllers for years

and Meteos destroyed a lot of DS screens. Which is why- He's a pro. Which is this? Truly Kirby Air Ride is his finest title. Yeah. I'm not joking. I know.

Yeah. I know. Requiem for your wrists. Yeah. Yeah. Look, when the fucking proper game comes out and people are going to be going nuts on the gamepad- Oh my God.

You're going to replace your fucking gamepad when that happens? No. All Nintendo. No. Why would you be playing it on your gamepad? You're either going to play it on the pro controller, not optimal or- Some people are going to and then they're also going to start playing Bayonetta right after.

Like, fuck. People don't know about Smash then. No, they don't know. By the way, go watch the Bayonetta Suicides if you haven't seen it. Yeah. That's great. Make it 64. Oh, that's an old video, right?

That's an old video. It's an old video, but it's great. I didn't like that one. It popped my way because I recently tweeted out the Bayonetta2boycott.tumblr or whatever back or whatever. I just cringe level infinity. Hang on. You saw that video that our mutual friend showed us on Facebook.

That was five things about Bayonetta. Yeah, yeah. Was it an IGN video? No, it was an IGN. It was just a teeth. It was just a teeth. And one of them was just like, yeah, I imagine it'll be on Xbox eventually. No.

No, it won't be. The Hiduki Kamuyuyuya. Yeah. Oh, that video was terrible. It was literally like I watched the DVD thing on the Bayo thing and picked aside five of the most uninteresting tidbits and then said Bayo2 would be on the Xbox. It got me to do the thing that I despise, which is like write the negative comment on the video.

There's a fine line between making fun of a thing and taking the piss out of it and then just being wrong about facts. And that ending of that video was like, are you, are you really, you know the situation? Well, here's what's up. It would have been hilarious if that was a Mega64 video. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's their thing.

And they did a thing like that when Bayonetta2 was announced. But you expect like Rooster Teeth and Sheema or whatever that would at least know something about this. They're on our level, but way richer. Yeah. You would expect that they would at least match us on that. I like that. You'd expect the money would bring the research.

Yeah. That's pretty, that's pretty, yeah. But who's doing the research? That being said, I don't think Rooster Teeth, Bayonetta is really their core. Yeah. Our business model is built around that, right? Yeah. I think so.

Please call me. Yeah. Platinum Wanking. You never return our... Platinum Wanking is in our contracts. I need to tell you, come here. We wrote those for ourselves. And now we're bound by our own words.

Come here, I'm looking at my Twitter feed and I don't see it ruined. Can you get back to work, please? You know what? Fuck it. Everyone gather around and look at this badass picture I was looking at before you got here. What picture is it? Platinum is great. That maintains its luster forever.

This is the Bayonetta2 lead team, right? Exactly. And they're just chilling out in front of something on their wall and the Platinum maintains its luster forever. It's like, yes, it does. Is this from IGN's visit thing? No. This is from Kimia's retweet.

Oh, okay. Cool. Yeah. Cool picture. Amazing for this audio podcast. Just fanboying out super hard over here. Like that shit. Sometimes what bugs me about how the video game industry goes nowadays is that the Japanese

developers were like seen as like, oh, I hope someday like we can learn all these lessons and, you know, the West or whoever, everyone will make games on parody. And it's now it's like, you know, just games in the US, you know, your destinies and your halos and your Skyrims and your Gs, like, oh, they sell the most and so now we're clearly whatever. And like the knowledge of how Japanese development is like less and less, it's like every time Platinum made a game, I would see at least something like it'd be at Mad World and Bayonetta. They're like, man, Palatinum, they think they're great, but surely they're going to go out

of business. No. Because their games are made for a certain amount of money, they keep within the budget and the game doesn't sell super well. But that audience loves that shit. That audience loves that well and everyone literally buy it and they're going to maintain their luster for a long time. So credit where credit is due, IGN recently did a little sit down with Kamiya at his house

show. They're good. And we're not. And it's a good video. There's a nice article that come accompanied as well. Kamiya hates zombies. The great, yeah, the awesome takeaway for me was something that he said that he learned from Kami, which is don't try to make better video games by fixing what's bad.

Make better video games by improving what's already good and making it even greater. Yeah. Of course. And I'm like, yeah, he learned that from Kami. Kami never learns from his mistakes. He learns from them in development and throws them out. You hear that Evil Within has been like completely fucking reworked. I saw that that guy on Gaff played like a very recent bill in the UK and was just like

people saying it's like, okay, so this part of the demo that we played at PAX, like that was originally like a completely different chapter and like levels have been totally removed and replaced. Yeah. For sure. Like, Mikami does that thing. I like that because it's very Mikami. I'm going to throw this shit out.

Fuck it. Do it over. This is bad. We made a bad level. What is this hook? Men bulls. But you know, the, the, the, I know. What is that?

But in terms of like that philosophy, like the students become the master there. Yeah. Like the, even if you have a gripe with something, wait five minutes, you're all, all I gotta say, I'm done with a 3D world runner level space shooter sequences. Yeah. I know you love them. We don't need any more. I'm good.

And please. You got your afterburner out of your system. Please don't let them right in front of boss fights. I don't know, man. Please don't do that. Scale bomb looks like you could use it. Oh, God damn it. You're so right.

You're so right. God damn it. It could use us. It could use us. It could use us. You gotta. That would be different too. Yeah.

Yeah. Damn it. Fucking destroyed me on that. All right. Letter time Blitzkrieg mode. Okay. I just didn't have something to say. Nope.

You said it. Super best friendcast at gmail.com. You will have the email show up at super best friendcast gmail.com. At gmail.com. Fuck it. Let's go. What's the question? Um, okay.

The Arnold's asks. Right. Uh, next letter. What encourages you to continue a game into new game plus? Uh, if I liked it a lot. Uh, if I'm enjoying it and want to keep playing, I guess. Also, if, if it's known to me that there's new stuff. Yes.

Exactly. So, uh, when, when Waker where I was like, Oh, there's new dialogue. Yeah. Or in near where it's like, Oh, there's new endings. There's new everything. Exactly. Or a game like Devil May Cry. It's like, okay, the new game plus is the enemies boss pattern.

It's the next level of difficulty. Yeah. That assumes you beat the game. So here you go. These enemies have new patterns. They didn't have these bosses as moves. If you're still enjoying it. The next enemy.

Like, uh, uh, uh. Most new game pluses usually have it, but some games don't. But just keeping your skills. Yeah. Yeah. Of course. From the previous thing. Cause I played some new game pluses where I was like, how is this a new game plus?

Uh, Chrono Trigger. Chrono Trigger. You unlock the rest of the story. If you would. And it's a game about timelines. So it makes perfect sense. What? Um, and I'll just even say, I'll shout it's a shout.

It's the transistor where the invitation to continue was just the wording got me. It was like, um, you can continue. Like the story will restart with your same skills at the beginning. The process will respond in kind. The process being the enemies. And I was like, Oh, I will, I will. I will. I want to see this.

Yes. Exactly. This process. Yeah. Um, we got one coming in from Chris and he says, I have a few issues with charge characters and fighting games. The most glaring issue is when you're playing against AI that she bullshit their way, like instant sonic booms and flash.

He's totally right. Yeah. And, um, and I don't like the two second charge itself. It feels detrimental. Like it's held to your opponent. Um, he would rather be like MK games where you just tap back forward, et cetera. Okay. The first thing I want to say is the game for you is super street fighter for 3d edition.

Or your charge moves to the show. 4 TBS2 EO. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And you've got to look up the 3d edition tournament. Yes, you do. And within guile, guile, guile, guile. Guile, guile, guile, guile, thou raw copy.

The thing that I've always had to say about this and the best example is Giles sonic boom. Is you do know that the sonic boom is better than a fireball. Right. It's better. It's, it's, it, you recover from it instantly. It's faster, it's stronger. And it's stronger and it's faster. So the 2 second charge is your penalty for having a way, way better move.

Yes. And you're supposed to hide that. You're supposed to hide that normal. With jumps. Or jumps. Yeah, with different things. A flash kick is better than a shoryukin. Exactly.

Now that applies to almost all charge characters when it's their torpedoes and all that great crazy shit they do. Body projectiles are amazing. They're fantastic. Usually the, the speed, the priority, et cetera, the recovery and you pay for it with the charge. It's a great compromise that makes a different set of gameplay to the guys that are just going in, going nuts. And the thing with the whole like you're doing your tell is that like if you're smart, you

can mask it. You can use your normals and your buttons to hide it. But if your opponent is smart, they will deliberately cross you up to break your charge. Yeah. So if you have a great, like, if you have a great move stocked up or a great thing ready to go and I cross you to the opposite side, you don't have it anymore. It fucks you over your strategy a bit. It's a depth that you would remove by getting rid of that.

Yeah. You also have to remember that a street fighter too didn't have like charge characters and those, those different types of movements probably want to be in half as. Sorry. You should restate that. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry.

That's something over. If. You meant to say if. If street fighter too didn't have charge characters and everyone's motions probably wouldn't have. Yes. It would have been more boring. It would have been more boring.

Absolutely. Yeah. Also, bullshit cheating on charging AI has a whole horrifying. It's garbage, but it hasn't been in a fighting game in like 10 years. Really? Yeah. Wow. None of the new ones do it anyway.

I still remember it vividly. Like it was yesterday. Yeah. No, it was garbage. No, I couldn't, yeah. But it's, it's, it's more or less. Did you, Ashley wants to know if you had unrealistic expectations of adult life when you were younger? Yes.

I thought I would know. No, I was doing everyone. Every adult I knew seemed like they knew what they were doing. I thought I would like hit like a door. Yes. Yes. And you'd be an adult. And now I know everything.

And now I don't want to play games anymore. Yep. I thought after high school, a suit just appears on you. Yeah. And you walk into a building and then you... Turns out, nope, all the adults that you knew that didn't want to play games just had shit taste. Yeah. Yeah.

I thought it would be like... What? Why are you talking? It's funny considering I've been living alone for longer than you. I know it's true. I'm a fucking loser. You know, I honestly like thought it was going to be a lot harder than it was. Like, you know, my dad growing up always told me how it was really tough.

Yeah, me too. My dad does construction and stuff like that. And, you know, he sweats out a living, right? Not like us. Well, I was going to say even before this when I was, you know, working at companies and stuff, I didn't... You know, there was stuff that were benefits I didn't consider that made it better. Like, I remember a couple years ago I bought a cheesecake and I ate the whole thing.

Yeah, you did. Because I'm an adult. There you go. Nobody can stop you. Nobody can stop me. And I think the hidden secret is that our parents and the adults in our lives, like, pretended like they didn't do that shit, but they totally did. They totally did.

Of course. So, I actually found it to be easier than I expected. That said, I was able to go into a job that was my interests. And also, as we go further into the future, like, society, parents, everybody more. So, like, a hundred years ago... It's easier today than I thought. You better fucking know how to chop a tree down and do everything else. And by far, the worst part about being an adult is seeing kids and just being like,

Holy shit, they're so fucking stupid. I can't, I can't. And, like, you look at them and you're just like, I couldn't have possibly been that stupid. And then you have to force yourself to realize I was that fucking stupid. I was walking through the mall with my five friends yelling at the top of our lungs with our skateboards being jackasses. And I'm staring at those kids right now. I'm just going, you stupid fucking kid.

And then you're like, oh no. Yep. Yeah, exactly. Oh, oh. So take that lesson and carry it forward. And you know what? I've got a 40 year old man who's looking at us thinking the same fucking shit. Of course.

I think also just really quickly that we were at the con. I think I said to Wally, it's like, you know you're getting a bit old when you look at costs. I'll look a lot of cost play, like 40% of it. And you're like... I don't know what that is. I don't know what that is. We came up with the rule that is if it's glowing armor and fantasy, it's Dota slash League of Legends.

League of Legends. And if it's not that, it's Homestuck. Yeah. Those are the two. Yeah. And 90% of the time, you'll get it 100% of the time. Yeah. Yeah.

Good question. It is. I hate being old. It's a weird thing, man. I'm old. And I know you started to see the similarities where you're becoming your parent. I have gray hair in my beard. Exactly.

It's like Sarah Silverman said, like I was licking Jell-O off of my boyfriend's dick. And I was like, oh my God, I'm becoming my mother. That sums it up, Link. Jell-O pudding pop. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow.

Asks. Stand up, base. Stand up, base. Staying in the table. When's the last time you voluntarily danced? Never. In the shower like two, three days ago? Would it be in a video's count?

Ever, I guess. Yeah, I think when we did the killer angsting video, I cut it out with you. Yeah. I was doing my dishes and I just got caught up in the beat. There you go. Yeah. You and me know what's up. But yeah, just dance.

What's the groove? Who cares if you look like shit? Just dance. Do it. You never know what you're going to eat. What if people are watching you? Well, you know. And they think less of you because your dance is so bad.

What do you mean? What if? People are always watching. No, but like in the shower. No, always. The watchers. That's a quick question. Blah, blah, blah, blah.

Will you recommend some hot sauces? Because I can't find the stuff that's cutting it. Because I'm getting into the hot sauces. You guys are weird. You're weird. To all of you people in the sauce culture and the spice culture, it's great. It's great.

I'm sorry. You're not evil, but you're weird. For the ultimate burn, go get the Reaper sauce. And for something tangy, you can get... Okay, you really need to qualify these statements with this may kill you. Go get the mango chili. Well, you open it up and smell it. And if you tear up, you're good to go.

That's what's up. Okay, before you do this, watch videos on YouTube of guys trying to eat these peppers. Also, please work your way up and don't just start at the top. Yeah, you can die. I'm not even okay. You can die. Also, move to the Guatemalan Insanity Force. I know, yes.

All right, we got one. Also, don't feed this to your children. Jordan says, did you know that any military force that used elephants has lost the war they were fighting? No. They won battles, but never the war. Elephants are terrible for formation combat. I'm not surprised. Was Alexander the great that either fought against the elephants or had the elephants?

But whoever had the elephants won. One of the early... No, but the war. Oh, okay. One of the early counter-strategies was to release pigs covered in pitch. Oh, shit! If the pigs were set on fire, the elephants would panic and trample their own troops. Great.

Good job. Thanks, Jordan. The only faction I can think of that won for even a little while is the Easterlings and Lord of the Rings, which may or may not be real. That's not real, Liam. But their olefons were huge. The olefons were quite unstoppable. But then they lost in the end.

No one at home will believe this. That's always the... That's the shot where it's like, this is why I paid money to come to the theater. The big... Also, I paid $120 for this miniature for my tabletop game. Lisa and like eight other people all try to correct us and say that Not to be rude, but you guys should know that the P3 main character is now Makoto Yuki, not Minato Arisato. You can fuck off.

Oh, come on. You can fuck off. Check it. The manga does this. The movies do that. You do the thing. You want to do the thing. And Ultimax like contradicts all of them.

I don't care that they change the name of the movie. Fuck you. As far as I'm concerned, they're all nameless. And we're just calling them an identifier. JK asks, Geese Howard versus Wilson Fisk. How does it go down? I say Geese Howard destroys them. Geese Howard, no chance.

Wilson Fisk is a fucking meat tank. No, it depends. But he doesn't have rip hookins. It depends because it's like Geese Howard has to go through like a lot of dudes to get to Wilson Fisk. Well, no, no, no. Assume that Army versus Army and they clash and they take each other around. They're in a room. You got the boss versus the boss.

Wolverine could barely beat Wilson Fisk. Could, could, could Wilson, could Geese kill Wolverine? Yes. No. Rip hookins. You guys are stupid. Double rip hookins. Gee.

How can you not do fireballs? Mutant regenerative ability. No, we're not talking about. No, we're, no, we're talking about shocker shooting a blast at Wilson Fisk. You know? Does he eat it? I should mention that I don't know who Wilson Fisk is. He's fucking kingpin.

Okay, thank you. Then no, why? Are you serious? Oh yeah, kingpin's nuts. No, no, like, he's forever. No, kingpin's insane. He's forever. Kingpin's really good.

Kingpin's way better than I think he is. Scott of Us says that, you mentioned a few times that Venus de Milo's turtle chest makes no sense. It's true. As those are mammalian features. Uh-oh. But the second word in TMNT is mutant. Since the four male turtles all have humanoid and anatomical characteristics and vocal

cords, would it not follow that their mutant factor involves human? You're overthinking this. You know what? You're overthinking it, but I will give you that. You sold me. You are correct. You sold me. Yeah.

Yeah, but there's... This only works if they're... This only makes sense if the turtles, in fact, do have giant dicks and balls. And I didn't see those. Well, but they have other male characteristics. Do they? Such as their voice. Yeah.

Versus Venus's voice. Okay, well, so fair. I'm just trying to say that the turtle should have giant dicks and balls. That's all I'm saying. Did you see the onion thing over there? I did. But I wrote that. Matthew and a lot of other people are wondering what happened to the player on the podcast

website. I don't know. Wally, what... I removed it and I'm going to try to replace it with a better one, but the direct download button links to the MP3, which will play on every type of phone, browser, or on your computer. It'll download it straight to your computer. Right-click, save as.

So that works for everybody no matter what you have. It's just not a player right there. Yeah, okay. That'll do it. But if they can't get the player to work, then how do they hear that? Too bad. Leo asks if we have any bullshit allergies. Leo, I'm not going to tell you just in case someone decides to be a jackass and come up

to a convention. I don't have any allergies. I don't. I think I'm allergic to some type of medicine. I used to be allergic to cats. It's gone. But if I had any active ones, I wouldn't tell you. Well, I'm going to be brave like a man and tell you I'm allergic to cat dander.

So I have to touch. Again, a guy got to dig real into a cat. That's like the dick. And then put it, yeah. And put it right in my eyes for me or nose to have it react. I'm very not allergic. But I have a severe perfume allergy. That's a really bad hurdle to your fetishes, man.

What? Excuse me? Perfumed cats. Cat dick. No, I'm... How are you supposed to get off? Without that, yeah. I have a relatively severe perfume allergy to the point where you know that chick on the

bus, the war too much perfume, you know how that's annoying? Yeah. I'm vomiting from piss. Yeah. I'd kill myself if I was that. I vividly remember going absolutely fucking crazy. Probably the most angry I've ever been in my life because I was walking through the bay and one of those fucking bitches saw that perfume and said, hey, try it out.

Spritz. I'm like, you gave me a migraine for 10 hours now, you bitch. Why would you do that? It's poison. I'm going to die. What did she say? Okay, good. Mainly.

She froze up. She froze up. She froze up because there's some perfumes that are actually super turn-ons. I don't know what they are, but I smell them. I go nuts. Cat. Like, yeah. I don't know what they are, though.

I just smell them. I dodge a series of bullets because my dad has probably the worst allergy I've ever heard of in my life. He's allergic to penicillin. That sucks balls. That'll kill you. And he grew up in the time of polio. And I have tried the alternate penicillin that they give you antibiotic when you need

it. It ain't a good time. You know how dad found out he was allergic to penicillin? Yeah. He was really sick and they said, here's a bunch of penicillin and then he was like, I'm dead. Wow. Thank God he survived that.

He's a tough old dad. Your entire asshole. All of it. It rubs. All of it. Yeah. Richard asks us, would you rather have out-of-sync hearing or lagging visuals? Out-of-sync hearing.

Out-of-sync hearing. Out-of-sync hearing. Would you rather have out-of-sync hearing? At least I wouldn't call. Would you rather see first here later or hear first see later? Well, technically, I'd rather see first. Yeah. Yeah.

Yes. Sight is a more valuable sense. Yeah. Then you get killed faster and harder. I could get used to something hitting my ears after I've seen it. But if you had visual lag, you would not be able to cross a room. Yeah. It would be worse if it would be worse in some respects than just being totally blind.

What sucks though is if you can't see the thing coming and then someone behind you says, look out. Then you're screwed. Yeah, of course. Or how about a third one that is occasional just frame drop? Yeah. Or YouTube buffering. The occasional buffering where all input stops and then catches back up.

The only concrete benefit to hearing first and seeing later is that under a certain very limited series of situations, if someone yells at you to warn you, you will feel like you have spider sense. Okay. That said, I'm sure you would take that path if you could see at 1080p at 60 frames per second. Better than the human eye can manage. Oh my God, I will fight you, you fucking shit people say.

Dude. I'd be so crazy. It's the fucking best worst thing is people saying you can't see it. Human beings don't see it in digital. They see it in analog. The most useless thing is if your sense of smell is delayed. I have no sense of smell pretty much. It's gone.

I ruined it somehow. My sense of smell is so weird and strong that when I smell certain smells like a banana milkshake, I get overloaded with memories. Yeah, it's sent as the most common memory. Yeah. And I imagine that's why my memory is so shit. But yeah, same here. I've been sick so long and sniffled so long that I have no sense of smell.

I don't know what I did, but I did something and I busted my nose up. Idiots. Fucking moron. What? What? Use your words, man. Read the thing. What's the hype train that you saw coming and then watched leave and never got on board?

Lost. Lost is a good word. It was a good hype train, I assume. Yeah, I don't know. Just a hype train that everyone would like to give room. And you had no inclination to get on it? Doctor Who? Flappy Bird.

Final Fantasy XIV. Final Fantasy in general. Sure. It's fine. Each game individually. Every time a game comes around, I play. I'm like, yeah, it's an RPG. Doctor Who's got cool stuff.

Yeah, I don't care. I know. See, look at it go. There we go. It's gone. Battlestar Galactica, even though it's really awesome, I just never, like, it was done. Yeah, it was done and I didn't know about it. That thing just flew right by me and I was like, I don't care for some reason.

Hey, I'm going to care. Me too, me too. I know when they're going to care. And guess what? When you care, you're going to be like, oh my god. It's the most amazing thing. It's the most amazing thing. I can't believe this season's even better.

I can't believe this season's even better. Why did you make me watch this show? This show is terrible. I hate you. I hate you. I hate you. This is the worst ending ever. No.

What do you guys have on your watch? I don't know, man. Marisaki Baby. That's a really honest response. That's a really honest response. Marisaki Baby? Marisaki Baby comes out tomorrow. What's up, guys?

15. 11 if you're PS Plus. OK. I've got a lot of work to do this week, so that sense is on my watch. I don't know where. Maybe the soundtracks, 799. I honestly don't know. I'm looking forward to that for sure.

Why not? You're Schwunfenstein. Go crazy. God damn it. Otherwise, I'm just playing through Killer Sound. Really? I love that game. There's a task in there.

What about you, man? What are you doing? I asked everyone on my Twitter, like, name me comics. Just go. I want something good for these characters. Just go, and I bought a bunch of that on Comic-Con, so I'm going to try to read through some of that. So it is like I never read runaways.

Yeah. So I totally just picked up runaways. There's a fucking raptor, man. Right? For me. Oh, yeah, it's Dope Ursa. Oh, yes. I want to read that shit.

I want to read this garbage. It's not garbage. I know it's not garbage. Don't worry. I'm pretending to be Pat. For me, I picked up the new re-releases of Batman No Man's Land. Back in the day. You can see that.

I want to borrow that when you're done. I read the first volume back in the day, and I was like, this is scary and awesome, and I'm super down with how terrifying this setting is. When you're done, you should probably play Arkham City. Yeah, I know, because that's what they did. See if it gets into that groove for you. I'm just like, I want to finish off the storyline,

because that and Hulk Future Imperfect are the two things I'm like, this is great. I never finished it, and I don't know why. That's where he goes to the future and fights himself as an old badass called the Messiah or whatever. And that's also the comic where Cassandra Cain debuts. Yeah, he said it was. So fucking A.

Because it's the best Batgirl. Best Batman. Done, actually. Done, done. And yeah, SMT4. You're doing it. Yeah, you're doing it. You started it yet?

No. Okay. Well, I'm sure you'll enjoy it. That first room is hard. Yep. Well, I mean, it's regular. And that'll be that. I think it's average for the series.

Well, he's coming for persona. Oh, yeah, so it should be hard. Yeah, that's right. It's the Dark Souls of Persona. That makes sense. Oh, fuck you. Yeah, no, it makes sense. Yeah, fuck you.

Fuck you, you asshole. Persona's a spin-off. Get it right. It's not a spin-off anymore. It is. No, it is. It doesn't matter how popular it is. No, man.

It doesn't matter how popular it is. So we're going to argue about this for an hour. No, all you know is that if the spin-off is more popular. Yeah, then I can accept that. What would the investors say? Would the investors say? Yeah. It's still a spin-off.

I mean, it's still a spin-off. Let's be real here, you know. It's just more popular. It's more popular. It's more popular. It's more popular as more games. It's like Mario Kart. But it's still a spin-off.

It's like Mario Kart. It's a spin-off of Mario, right? I wouldn't say it's more popular. The numbers say it's more popular. You know what? You're kind of right. I'm going to point a little bit. All right, well.

Do we have a website? Is there a website? What's coming up? What are we doing? Oh, well, we can announce that JV and Tuesday. Yeah, Walking Dead. I hope you guys enjoyed the Walking Dead tour. Walking Dead 2, Season 2 is going, and it's going to go.

So we've completed it all. So it's all set to go. Is that the thing I gave you going to go up this week? Probably. I'll just have to set the uploads to go. But yeah, we debuted at the panel for those who are there. The Walking Dead is starting for these guys. And Liam and I's playthrough is going to be guacamole.

Yeah, Super Turbo Championship edition. And get ready to get offended. And in addition, Dark Souls can't stop. Won't stop. We'll never stop. But we're burning through that shit now. And we'll also have a con video of the Montreal Con Con and probably our panel up as well.

Yeah, so I hope you guys all enjoy that stuff. And also this podcast. I hope you enjoyed it. Yeah. I think they do. We have to go start recording other stuff. Right now. Right now.

I can't even have pressed stop yet. We need to start recording. No, we need to start recording the second you stop. Okay, we're doing it. Okay, bye everybody. Bye. Custer's Revenge. Yeah!

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