Castle Super Beast - SBFC 059: Dont' Even Talk About Mpreg

Episode Date: September 23, 2014

Today's episode covers the latest rumblings in the world of Kickstarter, and the plethora of trailers bursting out of the Tokyo Game Show. Also, a few more thoughts on Destiny are shared.

It's really particular, because that phrase could fit into so many cool places, but instead it's a weird science made up religion. Galactic Tormentor. Could you imagine that right below Gurginga's name? Yeah, it fits right in. No, no, it's Xenu, who might be cool and look like Gurginga too, but... I think we would all feel differently about religions if Xenu... You go back to that South Park episode, you can get a good South Park shot for you.

Imagine Xenu's rising out of the matter with his arms crossed. Oh god, but that's your bad guy. But if he's rising out with his arms crossed, you're still... And if he's already not the religion set up in everything... No, no, no, that's the opposite. Xenu's the villain. You'd need the satan... That's why these are galactic tormentors.

He's like satan? Yes. Yeah, you need the equivalent of satanists for Scientology. The guys who are on Xenu's side. Right. Yeah. It's all fucking confusing. On my Google Xenu, I just get this picture.

That's not Xenu, that's a guy. It's just a white guy in a white shirt. This is really disappointing. That's not, no, that's not Xenu. How do you spell Xenu? X-E-N-U. Oh cool, I thought it was Zed. No.

Oh fuck, he looks cool. This is great. I'm currently looking at the worst, most ridiculous Bible protagonist topic on Gav. This is the best topic. How does it go? The heroes and villains. Speak it to me more. Because there's a lot of Bible protagonists.

And it seems like they're just trying to figure out which is the most ridiculous one. Which, right. And they're all tight competitors, right? Yeah, and the opening pose being like Joseph because he's a spoiled rotten brat that gets what the hell he wants, what he wants. Is that Jesus' dad, Joseph? Or a different Joseph. Is it Joseph 2?

I'm pretty sure it's Joseph as in the Technicolor Dreamcoat Joseph. Oh, okay. Okay, okay. And God, God gave him undeserved privileges even in prison in spite of his utter uselessness to everyone and everything. And it was not for God's intervention, he would have died, which is a rarity in the Bible, given that God's chosen ones have some modicum of sense, practicality, and willpower. So he just, he was just whiny.

Yeah, he was just whiny. And he just whined enough. And then he said Abraham's a runner up because he's a bit weird in that he tried to kill a son of sacrifice. Jonah throws himself into the ocean because he's tired. And because he doesn't want to save the people that God saves people. That's the best. It's like God tells him, go to this city, tell them to repent or I'll blow it up.

And he's like, sick. I hope they don't repent because I hate those fuckers. Yeah. And then after this long journey, he gets there and they totally repent. And God's going to like high five them and be like, yo, sick, you took a job. He's like, oh, I guess. Oh, I'm throwing up a lot. Yeah, a lot sucks.

He straight up is like, yo, you can't, you can't like have sex with these angels. You guys are trying to get up all in this angel booty. Here's to good for you. He's my daughter instead. Oh, yeah. These daughters. Yes. Both of them.

So angels come to visit lot and the entire city, you know, Sodom and Gomorrah, like, they're awful people. And they're like, yo, that's hot. Give us that angel. And then he's like, you can't have these angels. And they're like, no, give it. And they're like, he didn't know they were angels. He didn't know.

And he's like, no, you can't have them. These are my special guests. You can have my daughters instead. Yeah. What? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's okay because when God blows up the city and kills Job's, uh, that, I don't know. Um, he, he passes out in a cave and then his daughters get him drunk and fuck him.

Yeah. Okay. So everything's fixed. Everything's okay. So it goes out there. Tell me the story about that guy that put that angel in your bag. Hey! Hey!

Hey! That's a, that's a revenge method apparently. If you follow the Bible. Tell the story about the guy that puts an angel in a cobra clutch for like all day. Because they don't know. This, this topic on Gap is about like the worst Bible protagonist. This is the best Bible protagonist. This is the absolute greatest.

Because it can go both ways. And I'm pretty sure that the sickest dude in the entire Bible is motherfucking Jacob. Jacob's so cool. Because Jacob goes to sleep one day. Uh-huh. And then he dreams and then like he sees a vision of a, like a stairway, like a ladder going up to heaven. And angels are going up and down.

Is that Jacob's ladder? That's Jacob's ladder. That's exactly what Jacob's ladder is. Jacob Tutu, you might say. And then an angel passes by and he's like, yo, are you an angel? He's like, yeah. He's like, cool. You'll give me a breath, a blessing bro.

And the angel's like, nah man, I gotta go. And Jacob's like, no fuck you. You're giving me a blessing. And he's like, no, I really have to go. You are not leaving until you give me the fucking blessing. And so the angels like tries to peace out and Jacob grabs him and they fucking wrestle for an entire day. There are statues.

This is literally a WWE plot line. There are statues of this. It's awesome. Like every move ever, he gives them a stutter, angel off the ropes, you know. It's like an Iron Man match for all, like all day. Exactly. And like the ladder match, except the ladder's going to fucking heaven. And only one of them is trying to get up there.

And he fucking, he manhandles an angel until the angel's like, fine. I tap out. Here's your fucking blessing. Leave me alone. What was the blessing? Do you know? It was just the generic blessing. Like you will bless you.

You will have like good luck and power and good fortune. Good fortune to you. Did you need it? You were fucking wrestling the shit out of me. But it's like if you have angelic equivalent of wrestling or fighting a giant bunny for its foot. Yeah. If you have the ability to actually physically handle an otherworldly being, you fucking

take that shit. It's great. That's what you do, man. Wait, is that what you learned from this chapter of the Bible? That's absolutely what you learned. I really feel like EA could EA present Jacob. Yeah. Inferno.

See, this is the kind of shit that I thought of when EA was going to do Dante's Inferno. And I was overall familiar with the Inferno, how Dante Alighieri. And I was like, oh man, this could be fucking cool as shit. And he's like, oh, it's a god of worlds. No. Yeah. But they should have gone with the weird shit. Fucking Elijah, right?

Yo, a bunch of kids are like, yo, you're so fucking bald and old. Look at this old ass bald man. Look at him. And then he goes home and he's like, oh, God, that sucked. And God's like, I got this. He sends 42 bears to kill bears and wolves and wild animals to maul all of the children. You should volunteer to teach Sunday school and just go in there. And when they leave, tell them really cool, really hard stories.

And add in the DDT. Because I'm picturing these animals coming out like a GF. And then in Final Fantasy, just getting summoned and just murdering all these children. And they're like, oh, we should have made fun of that guy. Like, what the fuck? And how do they know? Because the bears say this is your comeuppance or they keep in front of some old man. They have little signs around their necks.

No, bears love to eat kids. And God just moved the bears over so they were next to the kids. Like, this isn't my Bible. What happened to the three wise men? Their names Nero, Dante, and Virgil. Imagine the old three guys were like, yo, here's some pizza. And then the other guy's like, here's my headphones. And here's some motivation.

Exactly. And then Jesus is like, wait, wait. And then Virgil's like, don't get cocky. And what, slams them into the ground? Oh my God. That would be the greatest manger scene. They're all tired. There's fertile ground here.

There's fertile ground here for anime, wrestling storylines, video games, the virgin trish murals on my wall. I'm just imagining like Miss Simon's kindergarten devil may cry Bible. Jesus is awakening. Yeah. There's just a bunch of kindergarten kids saying, don't get cocky. Jesus. What a cool school. Great good times.

Hopefully someone will take this audio and animate that. We'll see where it goes. Oh, it's the best. Welcome to episode 59 of the super best friend cast. You know, I was going to do that. Well, because you do it every week. I never say the full title. It's weird epiphany and light on the way over here about the podcast.

And I was like, we don't actually say the name of the podcast all that often or our names or what the website's address is. No, because if you haven't been hearing it, like how the fuck did you know? Yeah, but yeah. If you're listening to this on the workstation of the person next to you who didn't plug their headphones in properly, you're listening to the super best friend cast. And it's probably coming from a website called superbestfriendsplay.com. Who are you? I'm Pat. Hey everybody.

I'm Matt. Hello. I'm Woolly. I'm no one. Oh, Zach. You'd be Liam in this scenario. Yes, exactly. What's the difference?

I'm holding up a cue card. Oh, yeah. Even Woolly totally the same. Can't tell the difference when they're standing next to each other. No, what's the difference between Liam and nothing? Oh, don't worry. Don't worry, I got that from you. Jokes are funnier when you explain them.

That's what my dad always said. Did you get it? Did you get it? Yes, I did. I finished Bojack. Bojack. I was like, yeah. Did you get it though?

Because I'm a horse. And I like, because I'm a horse. Did you get it? Why did you need to write? Did you get it in his letter? Oh, back in the 90s. What's going on guys? Oh, wait, no, wait, no.

It's a Chinese song coming from Seattle. Generic Grun Song. Yeah. This is the decade we are in. Yeah, yeah. Hey, let's start our weeks. I finished Bojack Horse. Oh, really?

Did you? Yeah, and holy shit. Woolly told me some things. Like, oh, it kind of goes to some places. And it surely fucking does. Those last two episodes. How much time travel are we talking? A little bit.

A little bit. A little bit. Whenever someone talks like that, it's always time travel. I actually, the last two episodes, the second to last was a big drug thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It kind of went off the rails a little bit. It did. It did.

And the ending wasn't exactly satisfying, but yeah. Well, it was like we're doing another season. I guess so. But I kind of think this is, there's only so many funny animal things you can have happen in the background. Is it that kind of thing like Super Jail, where you watch five episodes of Super Jail and you're like, I get the joke? Well, no.

No. But did you watch the show before Archer? Frisky Dingo. Frisky Dingo. Yeah, it sucked. I hated it. It didn't suck, but it was so fucking out there that you really couldn't have more than two or three.

Yeah. Okay, because I'm not really a spoiler, but like there's this joke that I could not believe. I'm like, oh my God, only like 15 people everywhere. That's my favorite kind of joke. And the joke was like, oh geez, you're talking about a well of sadness, huh? I'm falling so far down a well of sadness. Baby Jessica's like, damn. I lost.

Yeah, I lost. Baby Jessica. Topical. Topical and obscure. I got it. And Pat got it. And Liam surely wouldn't have gone in. Baby Jessica fell down a well.

It's the most 90s joke ever. Remember where Bart fell down the well? Yeah. That is a Baby Jessica episode. Oh, okay. So that's what I mean by just your reference. And I went like this and my girl was watching and she went, oh my God. You just named her Baby Jessica.

That's a joke. You had to have been paying attention 20 years ago to get that joke. Were you paying attention 20 years ago? No, but it has been a joke. That shit never gets old. It's never gets old. I'm like Liam Dill, don't you know? And it's like I was too.

I was a spur. I like that. That's great. Now what you're going to call it? I'm pretty sure it's re-upped for a second season. I did not see anything. They're getting a second season. So anyone check that out.

You would probably love it. Yeah, I'll watch it in one shot. Also just for their vicious continuous non-stop attacks on NBC. Because NBC was the show they did. And Andrew Garfield. They talked so much shit about him. Yeah, it's great. And one person you're like you wouldn't expect that he's in it.

I think you name dropped Stephen Colbert. And I'm like that was one. But remember there was an actress that was playing another character towards the end. They were making a movie in the show. And I was like that's not really the actress playing her. The actress that it was. And then I look in the credits and I'm like that was her. Holy shit.

And I was like Will Arnett must have slept with her at a party. I really appreciate stuff like that when I'm looking at this dialogue. I'm listening to this joke. I'm like this was written by one person and they were pissed off and being a dick. Yeah. And this came out. And they went back over the script to attack the people that said their show was not good enough. Yeah.

Yeah. It's great. Just quickly what else I did. I broke down and played the first prologue episode of D4. You broke down. Well because I think that. Dreams don't die. Pat and me want to do something special with it.

But at the end of the day I don't know. I make sweet sweet love to it. I don't know when the rest is going to get released and like Walking Dead. Speaking of which Walking Dead is garbage compared to Dark Dreams Don't Die. Walking Dead season one or two. It's got better gameplay than both. It's more interesting gameplay. Yeah.

No doubt. Is the subject matter comparable? Yeah. No. It totally is. It's way more because your character doesn't know what's going on. Your main character is not the center of weirdness like Deli Premonition is. We're almost every other person in the universe goes what's wrong with you.

But aren't they the same genre of game? No. It's an adventure game. It's like walk forward, find clues, solve the investigation. Okay. Because I'm like where's the comparison? It's just that some of the characters just have similarities to ones of Deli Premonition. But like the voice acting is just as weird.

But there's also notable like Liam O'Brien's in there. Of course it is. I wouldn't think he was because Deli Premonition is like a step below. He needs work. He doesn't. He's got plenty of work to do. That said this is all Microsoft money so it makes sense a bit more. It makes a little sense because it was way more polished.

And I want to play back through it with Kinect because I didn't feel the controller works fine. But there are some moments where I'm like oh this would be much better with my hands acting. Well Kinect was the original design. Yeah. And the only thing is that when you start it up like you know all the link going yaya with the Wii mode and the PlayStation controller. They are the best thing for Kinect that in the game it has a very much like baseball bat boy sub series that plays on TV.

Okay. It's called Sebastian the Sleuth and it's about a case solving cat in a suit. That's awesome. And the Kinect thing is to the Kinect safety warnings are the cat doing things and it says like don't like eat cat food while you play Kinect. And there's a sexy cat lady that's trying to kiss him. Like don't play with someone else sitting next to you. And he's like ew.

And it boots up every time. It's hilarious. That's quite cute. I had so much fun. I think the main thing that I have so much fun that just makes me laugh is that when you put your cursor or anything on almost any object and it's like dozens of dozens of objects little notes pop up like a hud will pop up and it'll say like a refrigerator. It's empty as usual.

I'm so hungry. And every single object has a thing. So as it gets so funny like it'll be like you're my mirror. It's cracked. Where is my razor. I hate my beard. Like fuck my life. And it just gets more and more.

Every time you start a new chapter it'll say something different for that same object. Right. You get money for doing these every time. And you use the money to buy power-ups and suits and new music and it's just there's so much replay value. I'm really looking forward to playing it. And this is just a prologue episode. I was watching TGS and then like one minute it was like hey and D4 is out tomorrow and

I was like okay I have to buy an Xbox One tonight. Oh it's two o'clock in the morning. Right. Save me Amazon. I'm just waiting for the sunset bundle at this point. I don't know. I think you should just like you really want to play it. Well I might do that but I'm just going to get it and sell Sunset Overdrive and get you

know 350 bucks Xbox. Which is fine for me. What? The Sunset Overdrive bundle. You're going to sell the game? Sell Sunset. No no. Sell the game.

Do you think that game is actually coming on a disc? I'm pretty sure you're getting a code. Dude you can flip codes no problem. Yeah I guess. Yeah you totally can. I got into the Killer Inc. 2 Early Access thing. Oh cool. So I booted that up and all the new changes and all the new moves are there but TJ is

locked until today actually. TJ's there but you have to say like pre-order everything and if you want to. How'd you get it? Pre-order everything? Well apparently most people got it like notable players got it and I just booted on my Xbox and it said updating and then I went into it and I was like oh shit yeah here are all the new moves and features. Thanks someone.

Something. Does it have the new menus and everything? No that's like it's just they want to make sure Iron God said we want to make sure everyone has the changes to get used to the characters first and then the new UI which. What do you think of the new UI? I get it. I'm not in love with it. Some parts of it are big.

I haven't seen it. The new UI is like Ultra Tech is taking over so it's futuristic and like from that standpoint I get it and it makes sense but at the same time like it's not much better. There was nothing wrong with the old one and I really like the old one. I'm getting tired of the old one but that's because I've been playing the game for a year. So I'm thankful there's something new and there's some parts like I'm not sure if you saw but when you finish a match it gives you like the most detailed breakdown. Like what was your what was your throw usage?

What was this? Oh yeah. It's information that might actually help you like oh shit I use supers almost no none of the time. Right. Maybe I should. Maybe you should think about that. Give a percentage breakdown of everything you do.

That seems really great. Yeah because if you're a fucking one trick pony you can see how badly. Maybe you should have your things more balanced out. Yeah that's pretty decent. And after every match. You should always be more balanced. Well I'm looking at this this matchup screen and I like the return to traditional versus with two portraits in the box.

Like this looks pretty cool. It looks good. No it looks good. One thing is that the characters the character models they load in like I watched a video they load in way faster. That's one of my kind of thoughts. The first one is that it takes a while for it to load but when I watch a video that they load all the time.

That's been like this horrible horrible thing ever since. Ever since. Soul Calibur. Ever since. Yeah. Ever since. Yeah. Switching costumes and Soul Calibur.

Yeah that's it. And that just sucks ass. Yeah. I want to see the character right now. Yeah. I want to know and then move on. Yes. Well like the background of the main menu should be the stage you're about to fight in and

the characters are like already loaded in. Yeah. You know what I mean? That would be ideal. And then the last thing I guess is that I popped into the one year anniversary of the two best friends stream. Oh right. Which is really fun because everyone just said fuck it.

Let's just watch Heavy Rain again. Oh cool. So we have not improved at all. We have not improved at all but it's like it's the best LP. And I was like I don't know. Della Premonish whatever. I popped into them for a bit and during intermission they just played Snake Eater and everyone in the chat was just in caps all screaming the lyrics as they appeared in the video.

That was really really fun. So yeah shout out to all those guys. That was a fun time. I guess that's about it for me. What did I do? I went and saw the film The Maze Runner which is another teenager. Teen sci-fi dystopian movie. Teen's in survival games situation.

It's a bit of a sexy teens. No. When I look at that they're just young enough that they don't want to push that. The people are dressed if it's the way young people look now or the way it's shot. But when I look at that all I can think of is the Hunger Games. Yeah that's what they're like. It visually looks just like the Hunger Games. Well I mean it's a bit different because the Hunger Games like a lot of the movie takes

place in the capital and stuff. And there's some really cool art stuff going on there. It's all art deco style and that's like Maze Runner's totally different from that. So they're in a giant fucking maze and they've got this square in the middle of the maze. The Glade that's safe and they can stay there. And every night the maze closes off and rearranges itself. And anyone who's out there dies. And they're trying to find a way out.

So cowards stay on the Glade safe thing and then like the main hero pretend this is like let's do it. They're all super team bro. They don't want to go into the maze. There's a couple of them who do every day. They're the runners. They're like designated. The most fit. So how was it actually?

It was better than the Metacritic Let Me To Believe which was 50. I thought it was quite good actually. So we had a discussion not too long ago about how all of these stories have a fatal flaw. And we were talking about Battle Royale. Not even Battle Royale 2, mind you. Just the original because fuck even mentioning Battle Royale 2. But how these things are always the product of someone as a cool idea for a survival scenario. How do we get to that idea?

But then you have to write a backstory for it and it's the worst nonsensical shit ever. So for Maze Runner it's actually not clear because... That's the only best way to do it! I know, exactly. Because there's four books, right? This is the first book and the story is not fully explained by the end. It's like with 999 where you'd get to the end and you'd be like, I still don't quite get it.

And you get like a big conclusion of sorts. Yeah, I think 999 actually did this very well. It has not reached bullshit levels yet. It's just like, okay, I'll do the next thing. But it's just always like whoever designs a big trap for people like this. And it's designed for maximum suffering and emotional pull. There has to be a reason for that. Otherwise they would have just killed people.

I was going to say the Hunger Games is somewhat well thought out. I've seen both, well I haven't read the books. I saw both Hunger Game movies and I was like, I'm not going to like this. But when I watch them they're not bad movies. I was told the Hunger Games core concept of just scarcity. And it's like, okay, I can see this. I think probably the one that did it the best is Running Man.

Probably, yeah. Where it's like, yeah, the future sucks and crime's out of control. I can see, I've watched that shit right now. But like Mad World had a similar thing. But it's like the purge. Well there was more of a plot. You didn't finish Mad World, unfortunately. But there was a kind of...

It's fucking weird. It went different. Like Killer Inks original plot was like the future sucks. Let's have a cool tournament for fucking fun things that's it. And then fucking Battle Royale is just like... Battle Royale's ridiculous. The future is shit and our economy is shit and people have no moral values. We need someone to blame.

Scapegoat the children. And a random class will be selected to be murdered every year. But it's not just murdered. It's like put through an elaborate series of making your suffering as bad as possible. Why? It doesn't really make sense. It's like... The death of me, Battle Royale.

The condemned. That was we want some ratings. That's all that thing was. And that movie was great. That movie was like the best WWE movie I've ever seen. What's the fucking one with the cars and the death race? Death race? Death race.

Death race and death race. I've never seen... I didn't see the original and I didn't see... Rollerball, too, is probably something like that. That people can die. It's Prisoner, so it's okay. My problem with Maze Runner and all those types of movies is that it's so clearly like when Harry Potter movie made a zillion million dollars. Every children's fantasy book started getting the spider-wick chronicles. The one that was the most obvious was Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings.

Oh, Percy Jackson. And it was fucking Aragon. Aragon. Just showed them out of fucking nowhere overnight. Yeah. And with Hunger Games, it's the gift Divergent and the Maze Runner and all these. It's like they could even be... I don't even know what Divergent is.

Exactly. I'm only seeing it because it's survival game. No, it's survival game. Divergent is based on that game and all that shit. Divergent's Equilibrium slash Hunger Games. What are Divergent and Equilibrium? You haven't seen Equilibrium? Equilibrium fucking kicks ass.

Does it? Yeah. Actually, it's not that great, but the action's amazing. Yeah, it's not that great, but the action's amazing. Oh, no. Well, all I remember is the action. Sure. No, no, no.

But the female saves that dog? Oh, he saves that dog. And that seemed freaking me out because that's what my dog was at the time. Right. It was a Bernie's Meadow. I look exactly like it. Sean Bean eats shit like four minutes into the movie. Oh, I forgot who he said that.

Setting a new record. Yeah, it's the fastest on-camera Sean Bean death ever. I would say it's a spoiler, but it's never a spoiler. It's the first scene ever. It's the first scene ever. No, no, I mean, just if Sean Bean's in your movie, he's going to die. It was a show. Remember, what's the one movie Sean Bean doesn't die in?

That's a good question. I don't think there's one. Silent Hell. Oh, that's debatable. He's literally the only character that doesn't die. Debatable. Silent One? I don't know.

He's just in the guy's mind, whatever. It's all in his head. What should I call it? Sword Art Online and other trapped in an MMO type fucking survival things. One of the biggest problems for me with that entire setup, I know you guys just love the premise on its own. But it took me in right now. I'm giving up. But this anime world assumes that the visual fidelity, the graphics that you're playing

with are the same as real life, so you just have to deal with the scenario. And it's like, no, if this happened in real life, you'd be dealing with shit, garbage polys, and textures that were ass in certain areas. There's even further leaps like that where the technology just, you don't even, you're not even conscious really. That's why they put it 15 years in the future. Sure, but you can't move in the real world. That's the real leap.

Sure. The tech actually renders you unusable. Yes, yeah, that's silly enough. But no, but I mean like, if you just, even if you jump 15 years from now, we're like, we're not, we're still not across the uncanny valley. I don't know, FF15 looks pretty good. It does, but if you were in a world where people had to design assets and shit, you're going to find that corner of the map that was generated, bullshit, and you're going to

find this z fighting texture, and that's going to fuck you up. I forget what company is, but there's some tech company that just was showing off like just last week. We have this new technology, laser scissors to fucking just scan in the real world. But that will become a thing. But it still doesn't matter because people have to design. The show, shut up! I know, I know, but I want to see the show where someone falls out of world and then

you fucking, you're just falling into the abyss and then you glitch out. Then you should watch Sword Art Online because that happens. You haven't seen every movie. It could have happened. You got off the rails, what else did you do? And I watched an ungodly amount of TGS presentations. So much TGS, a lot of fun stuff. There was a fucking Microsoft sizzle reel right near the beginning of TGS, and nobody

has a recording of this, and I only caught the last like 10 seconds of it, but there was a new short scale bound teaser in there. People turn their reporters off. I saw a piece of art when I went on my Xbox One. I saw this giant piece of art of the main character that I'd never seen before. I freaked my shit, and it was just an interview. Exactly, that got released. But there was a new CG bit, and I was like, what the fuck is this?

And it just never reappeared, and I watched the whole Microsoft presentation just to hope that would come back up. Never did. Well, as long as it's CG, it's like... Exactly, there was no gameplay. If it was gameplay, I'd fucking freak out. Nothing even looked like gameplay. Was Hippo ever shown at TGS?

I looked at the Godzilla stuff when on Hippo. Hippo might have been on Namco's anime game booth, but I didn't watch their anime game session. Why not? I think that kind of answers itself, doesn't it? But the games are good. Yeah, but like... Except for Naruto.

No! The one that I wanted... Got a lot of flak on that. Oh, well then I guess, you know, we like different things, I guess, people. No, the one Namco anime game I did want to watch was the new Sword Art stuff, but that had its own thing, because it's so popular, so I didn't have to watch the one with like Hatsuh and fucking Saint Seiya and One Piece and stuff. I don't really care that much about...

You should have looked at it, just so you could tell me whether you posted it. Why don't you look at it? Because I don't know. I watched the whole Psycho Pass presentation. Fuck, I wish Microsoft would localize that game. It's based on an anime by Gen Urobochi. Called Psycho Pass. And this is also written by Gen Urobochi and it's by the Steins Gate guys for Xbox One

actually, thus meaning it will never, ever, ever get localized. Ever. But all the hands-on impressions are like this is the best. So, it's fucking disappointing, but hey. I had my insomnia continue, so last night I was up till 6 in the morning editing and passed out and woke up not too long before we started recording this. It's true, you're sleepy. But no.

You left the house to go to the wrong venue to record. Oh no, the venue changed while he was asleep. The venue changed while I was sleeping. I know. And I woke up and got ready to leave and didn't realize that the venue changed. Thank God you ran across paths. It's true, I saved the day. Exactly.

But I texted you. How did you not get it? I was sleeping. Nothing wakes this fucker up. You know that? Look at your phone before you leave the house. Well, I got it. I looked at my phone.

I scraped through and then I just, you know. I'm sorry the venue got changed. Yeah. It's pristine circumstances. But no. I've been given. We'll just blame that country. Which country?

It's up to you to discover. Yeah. That's right. You know some manga actually do that. I know. Right? They go back country. That man.

Yeah. Okay. Good. Good. You know exactly what I'm going for. Exactly what you're talking about. Yeah. Okay.

No. So I played a bunch of Tetris Axis. I'm getting all those modes down and whatnot. What do you think of all those modes? Modes. They're all right. They're all gimmick modes. Yeah.

In the same way. The core Tetris game itself, Tetris DS is still better. Yeah. It's just snappier. But this is the second best. I will say though that as far as items go, they're utterly garbage. They're bullshit. The items are way, way more stupid in this one.

In the last one you had like almost like Mario Kart style. Literally Mario Kart items. Mario Kart items. Exactly. Like oh you get full like single block. Only line blocks. Tetra Minos and things like that. Yeah.

Right. And in this one you've got like straight up switch the screen with your opponent. That's garbage. Yeah. Just to make yourself as worst as possible. As terrible as possible. Switch and win. Switch it and you win.

Right. You've got that. You've got at least three powers that involve blowing as hard as you can for 30 seconds to a minute on your DS. What does that do? It gives you a headache is what it fucking does. Yeah. It's the worst.

Yeah. It's the worst. It's the worst position of the mic on the DS. Yeah they did. So I'm blowing the middle of the thing. And it's no longer there. You've got the blowing thing anymore. It's the dumbest inclusion.

I don't know why. After that thing where that guy complained because his kid was playing Bomberman on a plane and was yelling bomb to place bombs. After that I think everyone stopped. Resident Evil Deadly Silence on the DS has that mechanic. It's for one of the puzzle solutions in the rearrange mode requires you to blow out a little. But any ambient noise will trip the fucking mic around making it uncompletable outside

of your own home. The worst one was Lunar Dragon Song. Yeah yell and the mic to run away. So if you're playing in public you are constantly running away in battle and it wastes your turn. Yeah. Every time. You can't turn that off.

Why people are so silly with this dumb mic thing. But then there's decent ones where Phoenix right yell objection. You have to hold the buttons. And you have to hold the button. They do. They do. That solves and makes another problem. But at least it's optional.

But it's optional. Exactly. You do it for fun when you feel like it's fun. Not for required games. Not for glory. Yeah. So I'm sitting on the bus and I get the fucking fog thing on my screen and it's like you can't see your Tetris fucking matrix anymore.

And I'm just like well fuck it. I'm just going to sit here with a foggy screen and I'm not going to play for 10 seconds. You didn't win. Because I'm not blowing on the bus like an idiot. I'm not giving myself a fucking idiot. You're doing a programmer. You're doing a programmer. It's blowing for 30 seconds really give you a headache.

If you try it. Try it. It's really blow as hard as possible. I may be a little tired. Do it right now. Oh wait are you going to time it? Yeah I'm going to. Go.

Are you going to give me a time exercise? This is good. All right. Get it. Let me know when you're going. And like 3, 2, 1, go. Empty your lungs. Puff out those cheeks.

Like do it. No that's it. I love the Massenese shit. Keep going. Keep going. We're at 8 seconds Pat. Keep going. Yeah you're up to sucks.

We're at 13 seconds. Yeah you're up to sucks. Keep going. We're not going to get a headache but I feel bad. And you're doing it slowly because the way you're supposed to do it is like. Get that shit out of the way. How will I ever get a date? Exactly.

Anyway. Garbage items are garbage. Played some Destiny. Yeah it's pretty fun. Booted it up. I was having some fun with it. Would you say you agree with both me and Liam? Okay well because I was having some fun with it.

And I'm now kind of looking at like where my unlocks are going. Like what my, because I picked Warlock. Okay. Space Manager. And yeah but then I immediately was like fuck I should have picked Blade Dancer. Just to be OP. A character's hunter. No because I want to do cool melee shit.

I don't care how OP or not it is. I know but that's why I'm playing a Titan so I can do a Tiger Dancer. That's cool. Yeah. And I was hoping for some cool shit like that with the Warlock and it's not there. No because he's a mage. And I got the powers that are going to be like these earlier four basic things. And now you just get stronger versions of things.

You build around it. And I'm kind of like is that it? That's it. Is that the French? After you get to level 15 you get a second class for that. But the Sunbro one or whatever it sounds less interesting to me. I don't even know what the other one is. The other one is just.

What's the power for that one? It's solar. Well it's the buff. They look like they're on fire. Yeah. You're a solar dude or whatever. And I'm like this is. Oh.

Yeah. And I was like oh man. I really hope I can. No I can't respect. No. Okay. Well you can respect those between those two but you can't do your main class thing. And I'm just like okay.

I'm at like level eight I guess. And I guess I can just go pick Blade Dancer and do that. Hunter. Hunter. The class is Hunter. The class is Hunter. The Sun Class is Blade Dancer. Sure.

And even then that's not till like level 15. Yeah. So don't worry about it. You can get back up to that level in an afternoon. Yeah. Because the game's frozen short. And you can just run around the map on your patrol missions. Have fun and shoot stuff.

Yeah. I guess. Well it's fun until it's not fun. Sure. Because you can't run around shooting like spawning hordes indefinitely. Well no but I wouldn't ask anyone to stay in the patrol missions for more than an hour. Yeah. Like go do the story.

Look. Even though it's a thin story it's more fun than the patrol missions. Like that's. I guess what a story. I would call the story a glaze. Yeah. But also try the crucible. That's really good.

Okay. I just right now like fun but feeling thin. Yeah. Feeling thin. That's what it is. And that's the feeling you walk away from that game. Yeah. And that's a couple of hours.

And how. That's a 72. And that's. You know what I mean. And that's like how much that thin feeling bothers you. Bothers me a lot. Bothers Liam less. Like that's the core takeaway.

The best thing I've seen all weekend about Destiny with Keats just saying has anyone started playing Durstiny? Can I make my Fred Durst character in the game? And he didn't get that from me. He wrote that. And I said oh my God. Durstiny would be so much more inviting. Everyone running around and you forced to wear a red cap.

And someone said yeah. Someone in reply to his tweet said yeah Fred Durst is a lot like Destiny. It's very flashy and a lot of hype but there's no substance. Oh yeah. Also trying to go into areas that you're not supposed to where it's like these guys, these enemies are just way higher than you. Yeah. I'll do that.

Well I was doing it and I'm like I'll just sit here for like I don't know 20 minutes shooting this thing until it dies and I guess that's not really worth it. And then you're running out of ammo and you're like okay. Well you're not supposed to do. Yeah. But I did like a hard mission that was still above my level and I managed to do it in the end. It's like.

But it was just like. It's an MMO. It's one of the only. It's one of the only MMO things that successfully like came over and that's one of the worst MMOs. Of course. Your bullets do not penetrate this enemy. Yeah.

They deflect because of data. Yeah. Because it has question marks for level cap. But yeah me and a friend of ours we've been playing a lot of competitive multiplayer and like I don't usually like competitive multiplayer but Destiny is competitive. Really? Because I think it's really bad compared to Halo. Well compared to Halo of course because Halo is better than every other game for competitive

multiplayer. And I don't think it's fast enough to beat Call of Duty. I think it's in this weird halfway spot. I prefer it because of the art. Like I don't like Call of Duty because it's just so. Look I'm in the Middle East. Look I'm in. On planet for the shoot.

You know exactly. Like but I like I like the feel of Destiny with the double jumps and the tiger knees. Okay. Okay. You don't get double jumps or tiger knees in Call of Duty. Yeah no. You do actually. Well I'll just double jump.

Well in advanced warfare. Yeah but not yet. I can't play that. It's like I find it. Or a counter strike. Or tiger knees. It's trying to split the difference. And I'm like I really wish it was just more one way or the other.

Sure. Although now you can play Counter Strike in the God Home House. Oh good. I don't know if you saw that. Oh good. It is a perfectly, perfectly recreated. That's a good use for that. Every single detail is there.

And like just do terrorists win. Just blasting through everything. Oh. It's fucking nuts. What did the fucking dearestor level in there? Oh man. Oh man. Yeah and beyond that I finished off.

Finished off Kamen Rider Double. Hype shit. It was awesome. I'm sure. Went about 10 episodes into Kamen Rider O's. Hype shit. It's awesome. And as soon as I get back you know what we're doing.

I hope so. You know what we're doing. I have people messaging me saying make sure they do it. Yeah we're gonna do it. I want to do it now. I want to do it now. But I just want to get this out there. That like I've gone through like two of these series so far.

And like I'm on the third one. We're probably not gonna do a Kamen Rider spoiler cast of any kind. Because there's nothing to really talk about. He kicked that guy. It was really awesome when he did it. And everything blew up. That was sick. There's no like oh remember this part of the plot.

Remember when you found out that blank was a worm? Yeah like no. It's for children. It's not sophisticated at all. I would only think because it's written by Gennaro Bochi. It might be a bit more. But I don't even know man. Plus I think keeping the spoiler cast something that's not mainstream.

But like what we did. Game of Thrones. It's a spoiler cast for a Kamen Rider. It's a little. Well I don't mind if it's that obscure. If there's stuff to talk about. But really it's just this form is sick. Look how cool that is.

You know. Also I've been warned that the first 12 episodes are a dreck. Great. Dreck. Hey awesome. That'll be fun. Prepare. I can watch 26 in a sitting.

I can do that. Okay. Well. Sure. I've done Dumber. I've done Dumber. We watch Gime. We should sit down and watch both seasons of Akiba Ranger.

Because I think Akiba Ranger is fucking awesome. I. You need to see that if you don't know it. Well I really want to watch Gero instead. Let's just kill ourselves and just sit there and watch and watch and watch. Cause I've been waiting to do that for a long time. Sure. And Gero is like live action Karras.

Oh I know. I have it on my computer. Okay. It's really cool. Yes. I need. I really need that in me. Yeah.

And I'm leaving next week. So. Goodbye. We will. Yeah. Right now. Fuck it. Just hit stop and we're done.

So yeah. I'll be talking to you guys next week from Glorious Nippon. It's true. We got to figure that shit out. Yeah. We probably should do that. It'll be something. It'll be something.

Uh. Uh. Pat. Yeah. I heard that you recently got into DKP. No. Oh my god. Oh my god.

Shut up. So we. Before we started the podcast. Uh. Woolly and I were talking about his. His roommate does raids on in FF 14. And. Uh.

I mentioned how raids just destroyed that genre for me. They killed the MMO for me. Yeah. Okay. And I said, woolly are you familiar with the. The. The term DKP. I'm not.

And he thought it was like some variant to DPS. I think it's a fetish thing. Yeah. Me too. It is some fetish thing. Okay. So DKP was. Tell us about your private.

Me. And that's the moment where you find out what DKP is. That you decide whether or not you're going to keep playing the MMO. And ruin your life. Or just quit and save yourself. Yeah. So DKP is stands for dragon kill points. Oh.

Okay. Yes. Um. It is not an in game mechanic. It is a community mechanic. Right. So in a raid. When you spend your 10 hours with your 40 guys to kill the dragon.

And it only drops three pieces of gear. Yeah. Like you can't. You can't just rush it. You can't just run to get the gear. No. So you're going to have to create a system. Yeah.

In which by raiding you earn community points that you can cash in on when the thing that you want. To get what. Or whatever. Yeah. Like drops. And if you don't do a good job in the raid. The raid master might just scream at you.

Minus 50 DKP. More dots. More dots. Minus 20 DKP you motherfuckers. It's the fucking worst. It is the absolute worst part of that whole experiment. To be clear. I hate raids too.

Yeah. I hate. In fact I hate any game where you need a partner. Yeah. You're right. Well that's. Especially fighting games. Now you're going to start to sound crazy.

No. A co-op partner. Co-op partner. If you need one. If you can't beat the game solo. Without that. Okay. Optional co-op.

I agree. But for me just the idea of someone that is also a player yelling rules at me. Yeah. Well that's. That's the. That's the worst. Forever. That's the worst extension.

I can only imagine how terrible it must be to have someone constantly yelling at you while you play a game and telling you what to do every single second. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Hey. Yeah. That being said.

I will. Listen. I will put out that you know. When you fight in certain like. If you do. Ranking battles. Rampets. And like fighting games.

You build up points. Yeah. But you're winning money. You're so. So whatever. This is like rated. This is like raid 40 hours a week. To get one piece of gear.

Yeah. Again. This is like 12 people going in for 10 hours to get. A shield. A moldy hat. Yeah. Like. Moldy hat.

It's bad. I need the moldy hat. I have 500 dick points. Give it to me. What if it's not a dragon. Well. It doesn't matter because it. I think it originated.

It must have been like all the way back in EverQuest. Dick points. Yeah. So. In the spirit of me diving deeper into like the PC. Disgusting underbelly. I discovered how. Like ridiculous.

And in saying the GPU market is. Yeah. You're saying. Are you getting into. So I bought a new video card. For bitcoins. Right. Yeah.

So here's what happens right. So here's how the GPU market functions. Okay. So. Midnight Eastern. They announced the card. Nvidia comes out. Or AMD comes out.

We are putting out a new card. This is how much it costs. Within the next two hours. Every review site. Tom's hardware guru. Everywhere. Hard OCP. Etc.

All put out their reviews. Yeah. For every. Conceivable variant. Of this card. At three. AM. Sorry.

At midnight Pacific. Three AM Eastern. Four AM. Amazon. Etc. Where you would buy video cards. Put these things on sale. And they are gone in two hours.

So if you were not around. If you were a normal person. And went to sleep at 10 PM. You would wake up to see the announcement. And all that shit would be sold the fuck out. It is. Absurd. It is absurd.

Because I'm sitting there. Like I'm like I have 20 minutes. To decide whether or not. To buy a 400 video card. Five minutes. After it launches. You can't even pre-order something. When they will come out.

Because they just announced it. They announced it. Yeah. Yeah. It is. It is the natural evolution. Of what I want. Which is things being announced.

And then going on sale. But I love it. I love this process. Because I'm crazy enough to get. I was going to say. Do you love it. Despite the fact that like. It is a chain to limited supply.

Because of multiple releases per year. Yes. Because I got one. So this is the kind of thing where the Scots. Ruined Scotland. Where PC. Scots. Where PC.

PC gamers. And Bitcoin miners. Yeah. Have ruined the GPU market. Because you can't even go to a store. And buy these fucking things. You have to be. Like you have to be paying attention.

To the community. Oh I hear that they're going to announce a new card. And you have to like keep your ear up. It's absurd. You've just made an enemy for life. And if I get out of here without saying what the card is. People just bother me forever. So this is a gigabyte.

For N7D. Wow. That sounds expensive. It cost me like 450. That's not bad. It's actually not that bad. 450. Canuckers.

Yeah. Canuckers. That's right. The Ruto box. 329. 329. American 5 something. American 4.

Slightly better one. I got the cheaper one because it's a better value. But yeah. Buy a new video card. So awesome. So. What happens if you got drunk that night. Went to bed early and missed it.

Would it still be awesome? No. It's entirely. It's entirely contingent. Because you only buy a new GPU like every what? Two, three years, right? Sure. So it's entirely contingent on you getting that one.

So it either sucks super hard. So there are guys in that gap topic. Being like is the Zotac card good? It's the only one that's not sold out. It's like that's not why I want to buy. I don't want to buy things under that mindset. That's terrible. So.

I buy the stupid cards from New Egg. And I'm like yeah. And then I like I'm looking and I'm looking and I'm looking. I'm like wait a second. I don't even have a computer. I can't. I can't find out how physically large the card is. I was going to say.

Where's the. I can't. I can't actually determine how physically large the card is. Which is an issue. It's not like it gives dimensions. Because if it doesn't. It does give dimensions. But New Egg says it's 16 by 10 inches.

So it's a cube. So I don't think that's accurate. I don't think that's accurate New Egg. So it's like because you know you can't just shove it. It's not going to fucking fit if it doesn't fit. Of course. So I look at my case. I'm like okay.

How much space do we have? I got 295 millimeters of space. Which is a lot. You have a colossus that you call a tower. It's a lot of space 295 millimeters. I'm like okay. Great. Then Tom's Hardware I think came out with the review.

And they actually took the time to measure the fucking card. It's 297 millimeters. But the fucking card is two millimeters long for my PC. So. Wow. My first thought is fuck. I got to return this. And I'm like no.

I'm not going to do that. You're getting a new case. My second thought is that maybe I can just saw off. Two millimeters off of the end. And then I'm like no wait. That's fucking stupid. That's still won't work. That won't work.

I don't know where to buy a saw. Yeah. That's the primary problem. Then I think as Lee pointed out. God. Do I have to buy a fucking new case and reroute all this shit? No. Instead I find out that I have to.

That in fact my case I can remove a hard drive cage. And it makes room for much, much longer cards. So I'm safe. So when I came into your place you said look at this. Isn't this neat. And you're showing me the hard drive cage. I had no idea what it was. And I was like is that bionicle shit?

Yeah. I don't know what that is. You're like no it's my hardware case. So. Never got into bionicle. I decided I'm going to fucking. I did. I was the age.

I'm going to remove this hard drive cage. How hard could it be? Guess what? It's not hard. But it is scary. It's scary how? So I have an upper and lower hard drive case. I had hard drives in all of them.

I had to move them all into the lower cage. So I've never done this. I had somebody assemble this piece for me. Really? My first attempt at it for me. Oh really? Ever. Ever.

I'm surprised. That's fucking weird dude. I'm surprised. Yeah. You can do it. I would always pay someone to do it. Yeah okay. It's not that hard.

So it's not. But what happened is. It's scary. Is I have an SSD and two giant hard drives. I'm going to move all these into the bottom cage. So I unscrew the thumb screws out of the enclosure. I remove the hard drive cage. Blah blah blah.

I put the hard drive into the lower bay. And then take a look at the back for the connections. And notice that my. This is going to be hard to tell over audio. But I'll do it for you guys. And the SATA cable going into my SSD. Is now being bent at like a. Just misaligned.

Like horrible like 160 degree angle inside the SSD. Because I pushed the cable. And it looks all fucked up. And I'm like oh my god. Did I just break the connection. On my SSD. Turns out no. These parts are really durable.

As they should be. But yeah. That took two seconds. I got to redo it. Because I think I can hear the hard drive rally. But whatever. But yeah. I had the feeling of picking up and moving hard drives around in cables.

That these would just shatter in my hands. Like delicately. And then I'm like oh wait. I can just jam. Jam it in. Yes. Like it's fine. And even as you're talking about bending wires.

I'm like dude. Like how many power supply cables have I twisted. Like on themselves. Going backwards. For the rector. To fit. And the reason. Why I would always pay somebody to do this.

This PC stuff for me. Is because the last time I did it myself. Was with a compact Presario. And installing RAM on that thing was a. Like a literal light nightmare. Well the problem is you're trying to change anything about a compact computer. Yeah. Well.

And that was a nightmare. And that scarred me forever. Less than one. But now I feel like I can. I can work. I can work past this. It's. Almost literally just Lego.

Yeah. Like. I'm looking up like how do you install a new GPU. And it's like unscrew it. Plug it in. Put the power in. And you're done. Yeah.

No. Like the most. Driver. The most challenging thing you could do is exactly like replacing that. Like when you have to get the. The gel out and shit. Oh I'm not. Never going to do that.

Thermal gel. Yeah. Never going to use that. That's the most dangerous. Complicated thing you can do. And even that's not that hard. It just you do. I don't trust myself with goo.

Watch someone. No. I mean you just open it. Just the whole thing. The whole thing. Just with a big scouring bag. Cover it. And then.

That's that's it. And you just put it the thermal paste on as much as you want. Yeah. Just just show whatever. Yeah. You got to use you got to use CLR. You know. I'm pretty sure that's how it's shown.

Really. Like your computer is measured in that kind of size because it's measured in milliliters. You just pour the water in the top. And you fill it up and let it clean. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That's good.

I'll do that. Loot crate. Always with the loot. Here it is. Here it is. Loot crate. We have. We don't have a loot crate with us today.

But. But. They don't have a box. The current shipments of loot crates are on their way to the people. But we do have a box. A reasonable facsimile. Oh. Yes.

I'm going to. So. A credible listener. I'm going to use this box to simulate the feeling of opening a loot crate. All right. Let's get those sounds in there. Oh. It could sound like this.

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That's correct. So what would come in this loot crate? What type of theme would you say? Well the theme is not cookies. Despite the fact that we all love cookies. The theme this month is galactic. That's what's going out to the people right now. So you could open it and there could be like a horse inside.

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pissed on. Oh, and this is why I came in to fuck Pure later. Yeah, that's why. That's why. That's why. But as for actual games, god, I've been doing a lot but not a lot of playing games. I played Wasteland 2. I played a little bit of that.

Yeah, it's pretty cool. People have been messaging me about asking you if you've played Wasteland 2. Yeah, I kickstarted Wasteland 2 so of course I'm playing it. Alone. Yeah, it was me. Holy shit. $25. I didn't touch the band at all because I hate the idea of playing an unfinished game.

That game is really hard. Is it hard or is it as it should be? It's as it should be. And it's stuff like don't give your medic a submachine gun because that puts them in the front line and then they die and there's no one to fucking revive them because they're the medic. They're the medic, yeah. And I'm having that paralysis of character creation where I'm just making characters getting

like an hour in and just like, oh, I don't like these characters anymore. They can't solve the problem. So that's probably going to be a while before I actually get trucking on that. Really good. Really solid. Exactly what I wanted. Okay. I never really say about that.

Did you play Fallout 2? Of course. Okay, well I'm asking because I know at least two people in this room didn't. Oh god. Was it you? No, I've played them. Yeah, they're great. I didn't play much of Fallout 1.

I did play one of them. I put most of my time in the Fallout 2 and never beat it because I was a child. I was going to Jesus' school at the time. Yeah, well. I was learning about Jacob's ladder in his sick wrestling matches. You can't learn about the fallouts. Yeah, man. Well, hey, I'm glad to hear that that is a Kickstarter that went and worked out for

you because as you know, sometimes they haven't. This is a really good segue. When Kickstarters get made and you've got to wait on the product, sometimes these things, they take time. I know exactly. Sometimes it just goes away. Gabe and No! How could you leave me astray?

You talking about Clang? Clang. Of course you're talking about Clang. Clang is dead. No, no, I did for real. Clang even was. Swordfighting game. Clang was swordfighting.

It had one of the best Kickstarter, like, trailer promo things. Yeah. Because it's just like, the guy's like, yo, check it. I'm a guy that fucking loves swords. Wait, wait. He's not a guy. He's Neil Stevens. Sure.

Who wrote Snow Crash and tons of other extremely famous novels. Yeah, and he's like, I've gotten into swords a whole lot. It's fucking stupid when you're playing a game with a controller and you're pressing a trigger to simulate swinging a sword. That'd be if, like, I handed you a controller for a game that was a sword, and it was like, here, use this to shoot the gun. And then the guy's like, he's trying to do it. He's like, I can't.

This is stupid. He's like, yeah. Yeah, and then he just walks through this amazing, like, set of people just swordfighting everywhere. It's great. And then he walks by Gabe Newell making a crowbar. He's hammering out a crowbar. He's still metalworking it. As he would.

And then he's like, hey, you're about done with that. He's like, these things take time. They take time. That's where that quote came from. He hits it three times. What it was looking to be was a two and a half. It was looking to be a motion-detecting swordfighting game that simulates actual swordfighting sport. And it got off the top of my head.

Well, that seems ambitious. Well, it was going to be an arena-based swordfighter. But the more important thing was the framework they were building to allow other people to make their own content. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a UGC platform, which is probably the most practical way to handle something like this. We don't have enough money to do a full-blown experience, but we want to let people add

their own shit in and go on. And people would have totally. Of course, of course. And here's what the problem was. They made their Kickstarter funding. 114, right? It was not enough to make the game. Nope.

So they had to appeal to publishers to try and get additional funding. I think the Kickstarter was narrowly for a public demo or something to show off to investors or some shit like that. They never got anyone to help fund it. Yeah, Mr. Stevenson and his team also dumped a ton of their own money into it, too. It's really unfortunate. So, at the end of the day, they finally came out, and it's been about a year, and we've got to just come out and explain, we can if the game's canceled.

And it really sucks for people that put the money in, of course, but... Yep, there you go. I put the money in. Absolutely. It really sucks. This is a serious case of caveat and tour. And you need to be aware that, like, hey, Kickstarter's are not a promise. Of course.

Well, sorry. They are a promise. They are literally a promise. But they're not guaranteed. They're not infallible. I think the rules we stated last time are still sage rules, which is, are they a trusted development team? There's your number one.

Was Neil Stevenson and question mark with co-appearance by Gabe Newell a trusted development team? No, they weren't. I don't know. No, they weren't. And that was probably not a good thing on my part to back that up. But you were like, yeah, sword game. Well, this was the beginning of Kickstarter, remember? This is quite an old project.

Yeah, actually. But this was right around the time that pillars of eternity and wasteland were blowing up. Before that. Before? This was really early. Oh, yeah. This was 2K12. Something like that.

Yeah, no, that's about the same time. It's quite old. I'm like, okay, maybe I'm mistaken. Yeah. But anyway, it's quite old. So this now is kind of like, you know, a lot of people are understandably upset. Other people are like, you know, we get it. It happens.

The people who backed a lot of money are sure not super happy about it. But this is now sort of, I guess, not turning into, but where it's going is people are like, all right, we get it. This happens. Please release the source code. Please release. What you have. What's been done.

And we will get something. Everyone on it. You know what I mean? Let the public take over. It's crowdfunded and crowd made now. I think that's incredibly reasonable. Exactly. It's like, and no reply there.

It sounds like he said he's looking for other things to get to backers on future projects, possibly. I guess the thing there is like, if I release the source code to everyone, then the chance of ever getting an investor for this is now nothing. Exactly. And it's also been like three days or something. Yeah. So, but that's the gambler.

We'll see like, it's a complete forfeiture of the concept of ever getting this like made professionally. Yeah. But at the same time, you go into these people to do something. It would be the right move. Yeah, absolutely. I agree. You know, at the very least, like, even if they couldn't build up something like amazing

from it, if they get something playable that, you know what I mean? Or people could just see the problems and understand it on a deeper level where things went wrong, where things couldn't quite get done because it was too ambitious, maybe. Because just something to, you know, like. We'll turn it into Mugen is kind of where I'm going with that. Whatever. Yeah, exactly. Mugen ready to put it to ready to go.

And that being said, I hope Mr. Stevenson doesn't plan on trying to kickstart anything ever again. Unless it's a book. Unless it's a book. I guess. Or if he's got a team of fucking like professionals behind him. Because like, you blow your shot on this. Established.

If he is working with Inti Creates, I will trust him. I don't know, man. That's not the greatest name to use right now, but I get what you're saying. I don't know, man. I mean, a team with a name and a track record. I'm of the opinion that if you blow it once on this kind of thing, like the first time is gone, good faith. And if you fuck up, even if it's not your fault, it's like, well.

Oh, I'm not saying you had your shot. I'm not saying I won't be incredibly like more skeptical, but at least having an established team will make me consider it. You know, without the, if he's with a team of question marks again, no, not at all. Or at the very least, even if it's, if the team is like, if you don't know them as much, but you can see how much progress was already made when you look at the video. Yeah, if the game started. Then that helps too, right?

In this case, they didn't have much to show at all in that original thing. No, not much gameplay footage of anything. Whereas like something like I was talking about a tetropolis is like, yo, check out how much of this is done. You can play this, right? Yeah. Or. Or.

Caught off the presses. Oh. A little something called Urbance. Yeah. Which is the banner on my Twitter because this looks like the sickest fucking shit. It's still, I looked at the page. You never actually told me what it was. It is a pilot animation project that they're trying to get kickstarted.

So it's an anime. Yes. Okay. The original thing was just a trailer for something, right? Let's see what it can become. They want it to be there. They do want it to be like more than just a show, but for now, start with a pilot episode, right?

And based in Montreal. So that's pretty cool. That's cool. Is this about break dance fighting? It's about. A little bit. Yes. It's about gender wars.

It's about gender wars. Yeah. It's about break dance fighting. It's about tron style visuals. And black people. And black people. And music and all of it just comes together for something that just screams me. I love it.

I fucking love it. You are a black people. Yeah, exactly. And you like music. And break dance fighting. And you hate genders. Why do we need these? Right?

So this looks to be fucking, this is exactly what I've been hoping for. I'm looking to it, of course. They're looking to get the pilot episode done. They opened up today, well yesterday. And they're asking for 189K. They're at 20K so far. And they've got 44 days to go. I think they'll be alright.

I think they'll be alright. I think they'll be alright. Because the quality of the trailer, you just watch the quality of what you're getting. I don't want you to come back from Japan and come up to me and just like Pat, I need $100,000. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Don't worry about that.

But the quality of the trailer they put out, if that isn't testament to what we're getting, it's so fucking dumb. While we're on the Kickstarter thing, one about a year ago was called Road Redemption. And it was basically, there's no new road rash. Let's make a road rash. Oh yeah, I remember that. And I chipped in like just a few dollars. Like just like the base amount.

Just because I was like, I don't know. Throw the dollar in the guitarist's case while you're walking. Yeah. You see, I popped up on Steam Early Access, so I checked it out. And it's like, the UI is incredibly rough and nothing's final. But when I actually booted up the game, it's pretty fucking fun. It's really fast. It feels kind of like Burnout-y, but on motorcycles.

And you have all these weapons and things. And it just was really fast. And when you crash, your guide just goes flying. I'm not sure if anyone played it, but Road Rash 64. It was a very specific version of Road Rash. Or if you crash, you would want to crash again. Because it was so hilarious. We talking ragdoll?

Yeah, good ragdoll. It was interesting. I looked at it and I was like, this isn't like shitty everyday ragdoll. It like looked good. Like a little bit like Trials, but a bit better. I played it for like, I don't know, 10 minutes. And I was like, this is really fun. It's hard to navigate the menus, but once you get into the actual game,

the game is good. And there's a trailer of it where people, it's no longer on the roads. You're driving on the rooftops of an entire building and everyone's on the bikes. Hitting each other and people are falling off the fucking buildings. I feel like someone along the lines must have tried to invent a better ragdoll. But they get stopped because everyone's like, no. This wonky, IK skeleton flailing around is exactly what we want. That's literally what that is.

It's a better ragdoll. And it's just like, no, we want this demon souls looking. Kick the corpse around and watch it fly. Bullshit. I think Nerdcube looked at it as well. And he talked about it. Nothing but praise. And like, I think when it actually comes out, we should probably do something with it.

Yeah, probably fun. I like Road Rash. It was Road Rash. I like where you hit the guy with the chain and he falls off his bike and you're like, yeah. Yeah, and cops too. They think they can stop this. They think they can stop this movement. There's tons of cops in this neighborhood right now.

I'm not sure what the hell. Did you notice that on the way over here? Yeah, there. There are police everywhere. It's because there's that huge construction thing. It's really pretty self-explanatory. Is something going to come out of the earth? Well, no.

But I mean, it's on a major intersection. So cops need to be like, hey. Why do cops need to protect the low construction? Well, they're literally doing the drive this way. I have the situation backwards in my head when you said that. Why do the cops need to protect the construction site? They're protecting the drive. Because I just immediately still thought something was coming out of the ground.

Of the ground, yeah. Like a tulip or something. A tulip or something. Exactly. Well, I'm an idiot and a child. That's okay. Let's move on. Okay.

Are we going to segue from Kickstarter to Steam Early Access? Because that's a really good segue, right? Well, what do you got to say about Steam Early Access? I got to say the same thing I got to say about Steam Early Access, which is it's a fucking crock of shit. You're right. And it's always been a crock of shit. That's Sterling's right.

So recently, Double Fine has suspended work on Space Base DF9, which was a Steam Early Access game. Basically, it's, hey, we don't have enough money. We're not making enough money off Space Base DF9 to continue it. Like the sales are not there. Considering since I've never heard of it, I guess they're right. The only reason I heard of it was because I bought the valve. What was the fucking thing called?

Where they worked for two weeks on games. Game Jam. Game Jam. No. The Amnesia Fortnite bundle. That was it. It was a big thing. You guys should know.

I bought the Amnesia Fortnite thing. I had a really early version of Space Base. It's the only reason I even know it's there. So they suspended it recently. And Tim Schafer was like, we don't have the cash. We can't do this. The sales aren't there. Nobody's buying it.

Tim, you're bad with money. Big shit fest here. Well, if Double Fine wasn't working on 17 projects, maybe there should be... Well, I was gonna say, holy shit, why are people still buying stuff on Steam Early Access? There's a huge difference between Steam Early Access and Kickstarter. And Kickstarter is we need X amount of money so we can make it or nothing. Steam Early Access is we're gonna make question mark amount of money. And so when you make too little money, nothing happens and everyone gets fucked.

Steam Early Access is fucking bullshit and always has been. Yeah, it only works for people. It's your Minecraft business model. It only works with people with mega hits like Rust and Minecraft and shit. And even Rust had issues with the community. It's like a Kickstarter is we're going on a road trip. Let's fill up the tank and then get on the road. Yes.

But we need you to fill up our tank. Exactly. Yes. Steam Early Access is we're rolling. We're rolling. Let's see what we find. We'll charge you 10 bucks to get in the car. Are those some orange peels?

Stick them in the tank. We might not make it to Nevada though. That being said, I want to give big shout out to whoever the fuck at Steam or Valve did this. Early Access is finally off the fucking front page. Yeah. Of shitting up Steam. It should be off every page.

Yes. As far as I'm concerned. Well, no. No, no. I think Kickstarter is the way to do it. I think if Steam wants to have their own Kickstarter like thing where they need X amount of money. Well, I don't have a problem with Early Access ones.

Like Wasteland 2 where it's like here's the beta version of the Kickstarter. Well, I don't like it when it's like pay money. It shouldn't be like it should not be on a contingent of like pay money and we'll see how much we make if it's after a Kickstarter. Yeah. Absolutely. Because they've already got the money. Like they put beta versions.

Exactly. That's what I was about to say. I was saying Rover Redemption had a Kickstarter. Yeah. They got funded. Exactly. And I think the only reason it's on Steam Early Access is you want to play because we don't have the servers that house its giant demo.

And also it's like do you want to buy it early? We know the game's going to come out. The game is going to come out. No, exactly. But for any game... You can get it early. The game's not quite done. But when it's like maybe the game will be done if you buy this early version.

Steam Early Access is their only thing. That's... And you just purchased one more day of coding. Yeah. And also if you can't prove your game is funded to the end... The scenario that you're describing is the Goodwill scenario and then there's most of them which just seem to be like scams. It's a way to get like a broken game on Steam by saying it's Early Access and oh I promise

I'll finish it. And you sell it for whatever. Yeah. Yeah. It's a fucking... That service is garbage. Oh man. I will...

Can't wait for it to be on consoles. Yeah. So what used to happen back when like it was still on that fucking front page? I see all these interesting games I click on and I see that little blue banner on the Steam Things as Early Access and I'm like turn Steam off and not want to do anything. It would bum me out. And then what would happen where a new game would come out and within hours it would not be on the front page anymore because a bunch of Early Access shit had come up.

Yeah, sure. And someone had just finished and shipped their title and it just got kicked from the front page because Early Access got to get in there. Take that Baldur's Gate director's cut. Exactly. Or whatever. Fucking garbage. I can only hope when it comes out.

I just picked a random game that got pushed off the front page because of this. Okay, okay. Now really I'm sure you'll agree on this. I can only hope when this Early Access style thing comes to consoles, which Microsoft has at least confirmed, Microsoft and Sony will tighten up the user protection like they do with all their super strict compliance regulations. Oh my god. Like the most protection.

The most protection. Exactly. Because you can't have people, at least console owners that are not even like used to any of this. That's not how MS and Sony operate. Exactly. Throw your money into a thing. Exactly.

See what happens. There are actual companies that like board over their shit and say like, no, this look makes us look bad. If we put out, if we let you put out a product that doesn't work or exactly doesn't look at least. Absolutely. Absolutely. And the deal is like, first of all, getting a game out there that's in people's hands

that doesn't adhere to compliance rules is no, no, number one. No, exactly. And that's why I don't like Bethesda. Even the indie games don't fucking work. I don't think anyone likes Bethesda. I think people like their games. Yeah. Even the indie games.

Yeah. No, you're absolutely right. Yeah. Make it comply or nothing. No, no one likes Xenomax. Whatever. Oh. Well, no, there's Bethesda, Xenomax and Bethesda.

Xenomax owns Bethesda. There are two Bethesdas. Yes. There's the big one and the little one. There's a little team. The big one's evil. Yes. The little one's good.

Oh, he's glad to confirm this. Speaking of Bethesda. Oh. Oh. Oh. Nothing. A trailer with content was released. For.

For. I would say DOOM. Oh wait, we're still not worthy. I'm not worthy. Hey guys, that guy's really tall and he has a deep voice. And he's creepy. I didn't see it. I didn't see it.

Oh, you didn't see it? This is a TGS trailer? TGS trailer. Yes. You saw it. No. Here's a thing, when I see a trailer for a new game. That's like, oh, if I look at the timestamp and it says,

like, a minute, I go, no. Yeah, me too. If it says two-thirty, then it's just right. Do I wanna TV spot? No. What's kind of interesting was, like, at least, well, it was just a trailer with, you know, like, shit happening and then the evil guy is just talking over

the protagonist trying to escape and run away and stuff. And it just kind of made me think, like, how cool would it be to play a game where, like, it was almost like Bastion or Transistor and that there was constant, like, a constant voice. Yeah. But it was, like, a serial killer talking that can see you as you're trying to get away.

Play Manhunt 1. Yeah. I was gonna say, did it condense? No, Manhunt isn't. That's the core concept of the game. Manhunt 1 is that you're supposed to, like, you have a kind of... No, I play Manhunt 2.

I play Manhunt 2. Brian Cox is watching you through Striker from X-Men. Yeah, Brian Cox. Yeah, Striker from X-Men. And he's got, like, he's got, like, a Bluetooth headset and he's constantly talking in your ear as you're... It's not nearly as constant as you want.

Yeah. Because it's just the story. But that's the concept of the game. I played Manhunt 2 as a piece of shit and now it's off. Yeah, Manhunt 2 doesn't have that. I could argue that Portal did that. Yeah, you're right, you're right. But I guess I'm thinking of, like, the constant...

Yeah, yeah. I'm right. I see you. I am fucking... Well, that's what GLaDOS did, yeah. And then she tried to kill you. That's correct. So, but I know what you mean.

You want the actual, like, evil guy... That sees you. Who is fucking straight up with it, yeah. And you're running in shit and you're, like, you have the feeling that he's right there. That would... If you want to pretend scary... It would.

If you want to pretend to be that person, you have to do a lifeline for the PS2 and have... Lifeline, yeah. And have to do a racist Japanese accent to get the game to work. Yeah. You know about that? Yes, I do. Do you know about that one?

No, I don't. So, lifeline came out from PS2 and has a microphone thing that, like, you tell the character what to do. Move, shoot, et cetera. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it got abysmal reviews because the shit doesn't work. It does not work. And it turns out, some guy on YouTube found this out,

a few years ago, that if you use a racist Japanese accent, all the commands work flawlessly because it was never actually redone for Western audiences. Oh, God. Oh, God. So, lifeline. Press start. Yeah, yeah.

Press start. Get your... By the way, if you don't know about that one... Shoot, eh! Like, do that. And it's... Shoot a second. When you fight, there's a monster.

You have to go mouth, stomach, head. So then she would shoot mouth, stomach, head in that order. You go stomach, head, mouth, head, stomach. And I can't wait to have 5,000 more of these battles. Yeah. Like, lifeline's the worst. We should play it. We should play it.

That audio will turn out great. It'll turn out great. I just think of a scenario, Liam, where it's like, you turn into a room that you shouldn't have and you just laugh at you or something. Okay, if that's what you want, then you play Stanley Parable. Yeah. Because that's actually exactly what we've been talking about.

That's the only game plan. Yes. That's fantastic. Yeah, there's a trailer for that. Bunch of shit, obviously, because TGS trailers... Can we talk about a few of the TGS trailers while we're sitting here? They're all on the docking. Okay.

So, we got... We had that. That was cool. That was an interesting thing. We had the fucking Bloodborne drop. Why? February 6th, forever was! February 6th, worldwide.

Fucking stacked launch for PlayStation for Spring. That's ridiculous. Yeah, especially. Yeah. Well, and then Final Fantasy's the next month. Back to back with it. So, you know that thing in like, Prince of Persia, not one, but like the release of Time and Stuff?

Well, you're zipping around to dudes, killing them in one hit. Well, okay, it's not quite that, but you're manually doing that in Bloodborne. That your mobility is fucking... Yeah, the speed on your showcase in this trailer is like super super fast. Way quicker, yeah. I'm excited, of course. You should be. Looks like a bumper crop.

I have a feeling that Bloodborne is this generation's gears of war. No, you're out of your mind. You're crazy? What the fuck are you smoking? No, no, I see what is... I know what you're smoking. No, it's not that. No, no, no, I see what he's saying.

What do you think I'm saying? What do you think... That's right. He means in terms of how cover became a thing. No, I mean the first game of the generation that's exclusive to the next generation platform that makes you go, Damn, I need a next generation console. We'll see that's neck.

No. I don't mean turns into a big franchise and spawns everything and copying. I mean the game. The game that makes you sit, that comes out a year or a year and a half. I believe the word you're looking for is the killer act. The killer act. For the next generation. I always thought it was fight night round three and not gears.

When I saw fight night... And that night round three was the launch one and then... And he's definitely not talking about the cover shooting system thing because that came from... Kill switch. Kill switch, there you go. But gears made it. Gears made it.

Something people cared about. Gears put it in front of people's faces. Put it in the spotlight. Yeah, I think Bloodborne is that game. It's the killer act for the next gen. I think it's the killer act. But between that and the order and Final Fantasy, those are all like runners for that for sure. Yeah, well still.

Final Fantasy. And I'm just like... And I'm gonna look sort of good and it's a fucking shit shame that it's taken this long. Well I'm gonna preemptively drop the order out of that list because I think the order will be a fine game. Oh no, but I mean a lot of people are going to buy it for you. Yeah, you're right. It's not gonna be a 10, but it's a seller. Yeah.

Just on its looks and the fact that it will be a serviceable shooter. Well I mean Destiny is that right now. It's not really breaking a mold. At least the music's fucking good. You bet they fired that guy. I know, I know. I desperately want for the next game to have midi horns and stuff. Hey man, I've left the controller while my spaceship is just floating, just letting that shit play.

It's my favorite thing about the game by far. Are y'all ready to pimp your ride? Yes, yes I am. As you cross the country slide in the most immersive road trip simulator ever? That game looks amazing. I don't get this game anymore. Why not? What the fuck was it?

Wait, I can probably answer all your questions. Sasuke. Cars. Okay, we're talking about Final Fantasy XV. Yes. So they interviewed the new director. What's his name? Tabata.

Tabata. He's the guy who made Type Zero Crisis. And Crisis Core. So first of all... Before Crisis. Crisis Core. Crisis Core. He may have done that as well, but Crisis Core is the one that matters.

So first of all, they pulled Nomura off. Nomura is off this game now. Probably going insane. Because he's got to design more Batman action figures. And then he does an interview. Hey man, that was cool. And then he does an interview in which he discusses how the game's tech demo got greenlit in 2012. And it's only been in full production since 2013.

Yeah. Like, why did you announce it in 2006? Why? Because of Nomura. Because Metal Gear Rising before Revengeance. Like, they had a thing and then it turned out, oh wait, that thing's really hard to do. We didn't realize it would be this hard. But everything I get from that is that they didn't actually work on it for almost six years.

That is accurate. We got the info on this. We got the info on this. We got the info on this. Because Nomura spends like two years storyboarding a sequence. And when I say storyboarding, I mean have a bunch of dudes make the storyboard with the in-game engine. Gets that approved. And then he's like, no, I don't want that.

Well, but let's also, do you remember the old trailers for FFA for Versus 13? No, this wasn't a car. That was it. No, the old trailers for Versus 13 also were way further back graphically because they were on PS3. Yeah, I know. You know, there's hurdles and hurdles. And the quote that comes out, it's like, oh, it's 50-60% done. So, okay, that's in 2006.

And it's 50-60% done now. So we should expect it in 2019. Well, we know it hasn't worked on for like six years in the beginning. The important takeaway is it's here now. And it's coming faster. So Tabitha had worked on both. Yeah, okay, sure. Yeah, the footage that I'm having a hard time dealing with is the fact that all that like countryside monster-slaying stuff that just looked like, you know, video game is like, no, you actually drove out of the city up to some random but-fuck-nowhere.

What's a road trip? Got out of your car and started killing some animals. And that's awesome. And that countryside is not, it's not just like the adventure. It's going to be a real shame that it's going to come out way after Xenosaga. Way after. Xenoblade Chronicles. Xenoblade Chronicles.

Because like, now that I look at both, I mean, they both look really similar. If we were still in the age of like- No, this is the new prototype and infamous. If we were still in the age of mud-sling marketing, like you could have like a car driving by with a bunch of douches in it and then a fucking J-Hooty mech flies over. Like, if you drive your cars, we got a mech-fucker. I would like totally agree with you, but I didn't like the combat very much in Xenoblade, so like, I'm more excited for 15. Well, all the combat and all of the final fantasies for the last while has been all terrible. But I didn't like the combat in Xenoblade, and that's my end-all.

I like combat in Xenoblade just fine, and that's it. No, I didn't love it. I didn't hate it just fine. It's fine. But what I'm hearing about the combat in 15 makes it sound like fucking shit. It looks cool at least. Yeah, it does, but it's like, oh, set up your cards for your weapon and then- But Liam moves through that shit over there.

That fucking bullshit. That sounds like it'll be fine. That is the- Using cards to fight instead of having a goddamn move list is the worst action mechanic that exists. Are you joking? It is the worst. Are you joking? Xenoblade's whole thing may as well be cards, but it's little discs on your slot thing.

But no, those are moves. Yeah, but you only get like six at a time. Great. Like, I mean- Fucking Shade of Memories is so bad. No. Shade of Memories is so awful. It's actually the best.

Oh, I used my swing the sword cards. Now I can never do it again. It's not true. Pat, if you remember, Liam loves all games that have card combat, like Metal Gear Acid, and Lost Kingdoms, and so on and so forth. Mega Man and T. And then you're like- Oh, I forgot about that.

Network Transmission. Love that game. That is- That is the- There can be no more diametrically lost ideology here- Sure. Than our disagreement on where cards should exist in the game. I hate card battles, dude. I'm sorry.

Honestly, just the characters and the road trip and the- It just looks so cool. I can't wait. Well, is the sword actually gonna, like, teleport anywhere on the map in the game, anywhere? Probably not anywhere. Because when he throws it up to the random, like, whatever- The wall on that building. Yeah.

And sticks onto it. It's like, okay, that- When you show that to people, they think, I can go anywhere and do anything. Well, that'd be the case. Probably not. And is that actually what you're gonna be able to do? Probably not. How limited is it gonna be there?

Well, exactly. Who knows. So, you know. Consist. That said, I'm still really excited for this. So, you're talking about Skarnex? It's probably gonna be very limited. If that battle system works like God Hand, where you're slotting in attacks, like, in a

row, for your existing move list, that'd be awesome. If it works like Chain of Memories, that game will be terrible. I know that. It's not gonna be like Chain of Memories. The more Okuran, for example, would be Remember Me. Yeah. What is that? It's the same as God Hand, just not as deep.

You set your combos up by putting the right- I don't- You create strings. It's the same as God Hand, just not as deep. You didn't play enough Remember Me to, like, I played much further after we- What's Remember Me? It's the sequel to God Hand. I forget.

It's the sequel to God Hand. My cap- My cap- My cap- My cap- My cap- Why, you are a liar. Not even-

averkingly. Uhhh. Anyway. You know what, we've fucking liar. Our sequel to God Hand is already live. So I was gonna say really quick, when FF15, and you said it was Sasuke. They have, like, diametric opposite personalities, though. Sasuke's the brooding whatever guy.

This guy's is an awkward fucking klutz, who always looks like a shit and spills a spaghetti in front of him. Didn't we talk about this? When he stands in their wounds while he does it. No. Didn't we talk about this? Yeah! No, he's not a brooding sad boy.

The trailers where he's staring out the window of the car. Dude, he is not a brooding sad boy. We're talking about Nox did? Nox did? Nox did. He's not. No, why is all the footage in my head about him brooding and looking sad? He's really not.

Go read any of the interviews with Nomura, he's like- But they showed me brooding sad boy! Listen to me here. He said it may look like that in these trailers, but that's not how he's characterised. Dude, we made a narrative, like a million podcasts ago, wouldn't it be great if you were in Final Fantasy or Versus 13? And he turns out to be, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And Nomura just turns, like, just makes plans into a pilot ship.

Exactly. That's who he is. I don't know. They've been saying that for years. They've been saying that for years. I hope so. They say a lot of things at Square Enix. Yeah.

Can we just- Can we just talk about FF15? Maybe. Maybe he's brooding until he hangs out with his buddies and then he's all cool and goofy and then goes back to being brooding when he's with his dad and stuff. It's all the footage of him, like, alone on the throne in the car. He's very sassy. To be fair, remember, those trailers were from ten years ago.

That is true. Like, I'm on the- What? I'm on the show. Don't tell me, paying wagon on this now, after all of this shit. Of course. Yeah, true. We'll see what the next amount of footage was.

Yeah. What he's like in conversation, because people are already making judgements, calls on that blonde girl. Yeah, I got it. You know, and it's like there's nothing. You've seen two seconds of her. There's nothing to judge personality-wise, guys. Calm the fuck down.

You know? But, um, yeah, I really did think he was quiet, brr-brr-brr protagonist. Well, he barely talks in the trailers. Yeah. He almost says nothing. Up till now? He stretches. There's that one on the car.

There's that one in the- What was it included with? Was it included with Advent Children in Japan or something? I'll call it who even knows anyone. Um, where he's talking with what's her face, the blonde girl. Yeah. It's not all broody and shit, so. Well, whatever he is, whatever this game is, we will find out when you pick up Type 0 HD

because it's coming with a demo. No. Yeah, no, it's not coming with a demo. It comes with the ability to download the demo later and they don't have a date for the demo. They later said it would be in spring. They later said it would be in spring. It's coming with the promise of a demo.

It's coming with the promise of a demo. Whatever, it's going to be out that year at very worst. And I am really, really happy. Well, dude, the production is on such a, like, straight away right now. I'm still waiting for Last Guardian to have appeared at this TGS and it sadly wasn't. We don't know anything about that. Like, the difference is we know 15 is back on track. I'm just saying, every time you said don't worry, it'll be here.

It could fall off track. Any game could fall off track. It's true. These ones have shown that they're more than fucking delayed. Well, here's what's on track. Well, on track, I guess, by, like, having it fall off track and putting it back on on track, March 17th, Type Zero HD is hitting. And I'm really happy that when I clicked on that news, the first thing I saw was the

shot from the end of the trailer with the entire team and the fucking banner. I was like, that's the sell shot. Can't wait to play that. Finally, the final fantasy I can't be cynical about. Looks great. Looks great. Looks great. Looks great.

I know, I can't wait to play it. And Aggito. Aggito Plus. Aggito Plus is coming with that as well or whatever. That's already out on smartphones and stuff in Japan. Well, the original. Yeah, Aggito and Aggito Plus is the Vita version. It's the same game.

All that coming along. Of course, all of these things have trailers you can go check out. Who put your hands up if you like pimp ass beast dogs? Everybody. Everybody. Everybody. There are people out on the street with their hands up right now. Right now.

Oh my God. Oh my God. Didi. I was thinking the other day how awesome it was where me and Plague called this. Yeah. You totally called it. Then call it duty dog too. You totally called it.

We have that dog and he stars in the Phantom Pain and Riley is now in Metal Gear Solid 5. This marks the point where I stop following Phantom Pain entirely because there's too much. Everyone quiet or both announced alongside the line that says you may never encounter Diamond Dog. Well, this news. That's what I'm going to say.

This news is bittersweet because it's the sweetest because look at this fucking dog. Yeah. Right? It has my bitch. What is the dog? You get in the helicopter and they do a dramatic turnaround, man. But this also marks the fact that like this is the buddy system. You can totally miss these guys.

They're optional and that means they won't have important story like beats. I don't know. Which is very concerning. Which is very concerning. Kwai was like highlighted so much in my footage. You think? Yeah. Well, she's been the name drop.

It makes me wonder if like Eli is a buddy as well. Maybe like your horse can be a buddy. Well, in a way, if you had like a shit talking kid with you, that could be fun. No, what I mean is that I hope it's he's not just a buddy and he actually has a lot of stories. But like while I was watching this and thinking about Ground Zeroes, I was like, how is Kojima going to horribly mutilate this dog and upset everybody by doing things that you just don't do?

I don't think so. And the answer is he's not going to. You're going to do it yourself when you fuck up that mission. Yeah. Well, quiet as well. Or you're spreading the dog's ashes on your face. And he puts the dog's eye patch over his other eye. No, over his other eye.

He's nuclear, man. So quiet's going to come on the missions with you and just be background sniper. Point and she shoots. When I watched that gameplay trailer, I was like, I just watched it because it's hey, I knew she like I didn't know what was in the trailer. Like I had this special mission about it. So I just watched the trailer and I'm trying to understand like understand what's going on because I was watching the Japanese version with no subs or anything.

I don't know if there is. There is. I'm going to resist the urge to just call her number 13 while playing. Sure. Take the fucking shot. So when I see her fucking just teleport dashing all over the place, I was like, what is going on? This is the coolest, most confusing thing ever.

That's metal gear. You see the bit where she shot the grenade. Yeah. So cool. My brain immediately says now all the buddy characters you're going to get, there's going to be like a solid roster of like these are your cannon buddies. And then there's going to be, yo, you want to hang out with Raiden? Yo, you want to hang out with Solid State?

I dearly hope so. Do you want to hang out with a feline and go hunt a Wrathian? Yeah. Yes. I hope that's a thing. Oh God, that'd be awesome. It'd be amazing. Finally, a Wrathian without a PS2 model.

No, he means like adult Raiden. That makes no sense. Yeah. It's metal gear. Mark two. Just hanging out with Mark two. Yeah. And like Gillian Seed in there.

Hang out with Hitman. No. Hang out with Dirty Duck. Yeah. A machine gun kid. And the roller blade, whatever. You're a jungle evil. Who's the guy with the roller blades?

A machine gun kid? That's Batman? No, no, no. In Metal Gear. In Metal Gear. You have roller blades. State? No.

The running man, maybe. The running man. I just remembered how every fucking Metal Gear boss is just a Schwarzenegger thing. It's true. Or just like beat the game and your buddy is now a Metal Gear. I know that'd be really funny. You know what I mean? Has it been announced that there's going to be a new Metal Gear online with this?

I don't think so. Because there should be. I think there's evidently going to be one. Because Kojima Productions LA's whole shtick when they were hiring was for online multiplayer. Because this engine and system would work really well. I would not be surprised if they try to integrate the online into your main game. As opposed to making a new section. I don't know.

I don't think that's going to happen. Not just in the open world randomly. No, no, no. Not in an invasive way. But in terms of like, there is a board you can go look at on your base. I wish you hadn't said that term like a few seconds ago. Or you said like, integrate it to be online. Because it just reminds me of what Square Enix said about idle systems.

Okay, no. I don't mean like you're going to see that. I don't mean like fucking Dark Souls ghosts walking around. Like other big bosses. No, no, no. I'm not continuing what you were saying. I'm just saying like, that whole separate piece of news. You just reminded me of that.

And I was like, ugh. I'll talk to you about that after. Because it's not as bad as it sounds. Because it sounds really bad. It sounds really bad, but it's not. It always sounds bad. My brain, or if there was a dedicated online motor or something like that. I can see it being like, protect your mother base.

Well, they already have the home invasions. Exactly. Protect your mother base. And invaders are coming. Dude, I just want Snake vs. Guards again. Yeah, me too. Like that mode was amazing. Not just Snake vs. Guards, but like when you could play as Raiden.

When you could play as Mei Ling. Like all these awesome chesses. Even if it was just that mode. Just that working well. That was the best, one of the best multiplayer modes I've ever played. That was what forced you to go through the whole Konami ID bullshit on your PS2 just to play that. It's true. It wasn't worth it, but then it was.

And you know what's going to be pops like too, where like if you lose one of your buddies, they're gone for your entire playthrough. Probably, yeah. You can't find another dog. That's going to be it. Not a dog with an eye patch. Did you play Portable Ops? Yeah, not the online stuff.

You find a guy, he dies. That's it. Game over man. Game over. They're not like that. Kojima wanted this to crack. They said the dog could die. What I mean is I like lose the dog forever or something.

Plus I always thought that was more of a handheld thing. Like that collecting a guy and then losing the guy. That mechanics transferred over to this completely. Don't suck. Don't care about your dog. People can get killed in your mother base too. Oh. When someone dorm evades you.

Okay. Dorm evasions are happening. Yeah. Someone stole our man do from the mother base. And those motherfuckers. Get it back. Stole the Doritos recipe. Oh no.

I'm going to take my axe body spray and just spray it in their eyes. Yeah. Did you catch that bit where he can switch prosthetic arms and eat different things? Yeah. One of them has electricity. The electricity breaks replaces the stun rod. Stun rod. Okay.

That makes more sense. Yeah. Even though it doesn't make any sense. It's so cool. I'm so glad I lost my arm. God I'm so much better. I like the ping one is the best where he hits it against the ground and it like nails the ground and then it does a big watch him up ping where you see people on your radar.

Yeah. Yeah. That was awesome. He's doing like this tremor thing. Yeah. It's like wait. Are we still in the 70s? No.

Huh? We're in the technological wonder age of the 1980s. They made the Shagohod like years before and that's a fucking... The Shagohod was just a tank. But it's a crazy thing. Yeah. It's a crazy thing. But that ping thing we literally just saw in advanced warfare.

We're fair. Yeah. That's true. We're not even right. I refuse your astonishment over technology rules in a Metal Gear game. I refuse this. QEMRIC can make anything. It's fine as long as we assume that the government had this years before.

It's magic. Shut up. It's just magic. Remember they basically have wrecks. You remember from that one trailer? Yeah, they do. They're doing ground zeroes. Look at my walkie-talkie.

Shoot holograms in my face. Like that's the least believable of all? Yeah. Definitely. Well, I would say the least believable is the fucking flying gun platforms from... Oh. Real. Real.

And you find out they're real and your world is ruined. They didn't work very well. No. But... They were flying targets. It was like, please shoot me. I will explode. I love the idea of Vulcan gain all these technologies that don't work very well.

But he's like, but it's cool. At the time you couldn't know, right? Because of the war. Russia has tons of weird tech that don't work. Like their economy. Oh, no. Anyway, speaking of... Take that 1960s Russian economy.

Suck it. Rubble is more like rubble. Speaking of confusing technology in the past. Deep down. Deep down. That shit looks good. 1494 and 2094 are the years that this is taking place in. And I...

Are you... Did you watch the trailer? Oh, yeah. I've seen everything since the first... Like I've been following that one. So it seems to me like the plot is Japanese Assassin's Creed. Yeah. That's what I'm...

That's what I'm piecing. It's that you... In the future, you're a... I forget what you call it, like a memory hunter or something. Yeah. And you get sent these things that people want you to analyze the memories of. And then you go into those memories. So it's a bit...

It's very similar in that sense, but it's a bit different. And it just so happens that the person... The memory of the person you're going into is always a badass knight. And not just a random shopkeep. Well, no. Because you are the badass knight going into the memory. Oh. That's you going into the memory.

It's all abstraction. Okay. You're not Altair. Altair is not your descendant. Okay. You're you. You're you. Yeah.

Okay, that was kind of... That's why... Because it's a multiplayer game, remember? Right. So like everyone goes in with their knight into the memory to see. So yeah, that looks like you're doing the Dark Souls thing. That's really cool. Is there even...

It's starting to look like even further from Dark Souls though, in terms of how it runs. Well, when I saw the giant crazy boss fight with a bunch of dudes running it, I'm like, okay, that just looks like a monster hunter style. Oh yeah. Moment. And Traps, too. Like Dragon's Dog was like... Dragon's Dog, my monster hunter.

Dragon's Dog was a total financial loss. No, what I mean is like they're never going to return to that. This is clearly another attempt at that. But it's free. Dragon's Dog was so good. It played fun. It was great. The one thing that it keeps great...

The one thing I keep coming back to though is the spear system. Spears are cool. They control like a gun. Well, that's the most interesting thing of the entire design to me so far. I think the magic's really cool. Especially the slow-mo magic where everyone's going slow and one guy's just going fast and you see all the effects just slowing down. The effects are gorgeous in that game.

That is cool. That is cool. That's really interesting. Some of the... This year it's supposed to be. Okay. Is that just Japan? They confirmed Beta's coming this year.

Dude, it's going to be worldwide whenever. So, something, you know. Wait, do you mean like it'll be worldwide eventually or worldwide simultaneous? Well, it's going to be worldwide eventually, who knows. Not simultaneously. But they're only talking about the Japanese puns. Online, test the waters, see what happens. It's free to make a Japanese PSN account.

And the game is free in the first place. So, anyone who wants it enough can just go download it, you know? Yeah. And yeah, some of the traps and monsters and stuff that are coming at them. I'm like, yeah, that's interesting. One of the traps I really like is just like a fall away floor that just fucking falls and you fall like a story, like a huge distance. And you have to fight down there and then you climb back up and you continue your adventure.

And like the big rolling barrels that are super dumb, but they're rolling barrels. Have they talked about like what you're actually going to pay for at all? No. I wonder what the hell it's going to be. Like could it be cosmetics, which would be fine, or it could be like stuff that you kind of need. I'm hoping it's going to be like Mass Effect 3 more like, you know, where you get weapon and item drops, but you can also buy them in packs, you know? Well, when that pack system rubs me the wrong way.

Well, at the same time, that's like, it's not terrible. You still get the drops. Those big dumb rolling barrels. All I can imagine is just like Lanky Kong at the other end of the hallway. Just chucking me fucking shit at you. Yeah, I got you. One thing I want to point out, and you should like rewatch just to listen, is the music is still super good and deep down.

Like it's really good. It's like high pace too. It's not like a slow brooding music. It's like a beat. It's really cool actually. Looks like the future parts are going to be like, it's just your room. Slow walking around the room. Yeah.

Just your room. Just your room. Customize your room. Desmond. Yeah. You can talk to that AI. Odile or Odette or whatever she's called. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. All other giant monster things, they didn't show any footage of it, but we have a few more words about Scalebound. Yes. Yeah. It'll be easier to get Platinum's other games.

You know, until I see the genre, I have no qualms with that. Exactly. We don't even know the genre. Exactly. They may mean easier in the sense that it's not even character action. Yeah. It's like all dragon rides. Which is almost by default easier than character action.

Yeah. Well, he straight up said that like we're known for doing high skill, high risk, high reward games. That's not what this is going to be. Yeah. He says I'm challenging myself by making something I have not made before. At the same time, I was really surprised to find out that this existed in concept before Bayonetta.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I believe that. It's an idea that he's been floating around with for years. One of his favorite games is like Dragon Slayer by Namcaught. And like... What is Dragon Slayer?

It's you just go through dungeons and fight dragons at the end. And it's by Namcaught. That's how cool it is. He's always going to say this. He's been into this dragon thing for a long, long time. When we saw Scalebound, we were like, oh yeah, and it's directed by Kamiya. But at the same time, it's like we have Bayonetta. It can't be another character action.

He's not going to create another third branch. I just want this to be Kamiya's take of Monster Hunt. I think it's going to be Monster Hunt. All I expect is the same over-the-top-ness. But it's like even a wonderful one-to-one. It's still character action. It's just like a different spin on it. But it's like you can't make...

Yeah. You can't do it forever. Yeah. More like Kamiya's take on The Last Guardian, man. Because he's like, we want to have a heavy focus on the bond you're going to have with this giant creature. Which in itself is different than any other game he's made. Sure. You'll be able to feed him pizza.

I had a bond with Bayonetta's foot guns. They were great. Scarborough Fair, man. So what is the deal? Bayonetta 2 is out, right? Like a week. No, Max played the entire game. It's out in Japan.

So people just got it. Yeah. Wow. I was so confused. It leaked or something. No, they bought Japanese Wii U's and then bought the Japan. You remember like six months ago when I was like, we should buy a Japanese Wii U just to do, I don't know, four years in Bayonetta earlier? And then Fatal Frame.

And both... Fuck TGS. Well, not fuck TGS. We're fucking Nintendo for not at least a net. I don't know why they would announce a localization of a Japanese game. No, there were some of those actually at this TGS. I'm really shocked and disappointed that Fatal Frame is just not on the radar for North America and Europe. I'm really surprised.

I wish, like, because Nintendo can't tell unless someone asks, but who in the gaming media cares enough about Nintendo to, A, ask them anything that is not about Smash. Rami Cowboy. Rami Cowboy might do it, but someone just, some interviewer out there, if you have a website or no Nintendo, just ask this one question. Is that ever coming out? Man, I wish I was surprised. Well, the reason I'm surprised is because Nintendo is backed into the most absurd corner where they can't afford to not localize big games. And yet, and yet, and yet, here's a big game. Maybe it's the Wetness Meter putting them off, but-

But shh, here's a trailer for- That makes it the best playthrough material ever. We can go sploosh every 30 seconds. Exactly. Please enjoy Pokemon Art Academy. Here's a Japanese trailer for the great- No! Here's a Japanese trailer for the great Ace Attorney with a lot of English in it.

Yeah. That game's coming here for sure. Of course it's fucking coming here. I don't know. They've managed to make Phoenix work since five. There's a British flag in the trailer, so- I don't think that's the tell, but- Eat your fish and chips.

What are you gonna say? Like, what happens when it shows you a British flag? That's right. It's the worst thing ever. Like, because how it's like- The localization has made this so absurd now that when the great Ace Attorney comes along, it's like, what? What are they gonna say? Like, they're standing next- Sherlock and Phoenix are standing next to each other looking at a fucking British flag and they're like,

America. America, Japan. When to the point. What? I don't know. Trilogy's coming over. I just mean like, Investigations 2 is always like the one sour spot where it's like, it gives me doubt a little bit. Well, Investigations 1 also sold like 2,000 units on it. Yeah, and it was really bad.

But I think the other thing is that horror games like Alien Isolation, Evil Within, all these games that have the trailers with someone in Night Vision going, Ah! Like, it's the big new marketing thing now all of a sudden. It's the scourning. The scourning. So it's like, Nintendo, like, give it a shitty localization. I don't care. Motherfuck it. Don't even translate it.

Fuck it, Tim. Just make it play an ad like that where they're introducing their black coffee. Like, everyone's doing it. And I think it's like, if you don't release it now, you're gonna wait until next time. No, so here's my, the only way I see it coming out now is that it's the new Xenoblade. It's their act, they're gonna put this one out. There's like 5 games that they're just gonna absolutely refuse to localize. And they'll use Fatal Frame to pad the shit release.

Like, honestly, who knows? But I do not think it's a wise idea considering there's no fucking games, Nintendo. I think it's a wise idea to, like, localize games and sell them. Especially when your partner, Tec Mokoi, is so, like, on the ball with localizing everything. Hey, don't get me wrong. I think Nintendo should localize, yeah, because of 5. Sure, I'll take this. They might, who knows. Don't get me wrong, Tomodachi Life is great, but it's like, of the two things you chose to localize,

if it was between, like, a new Fatal Frame and Tomodachi Life, why'd you pick the one that, don't get me wrong, again, has the hilarious versions of us doing all those hilarious things. Yeah. But, like, Fatal Frame seems to be an easy thing. Hours and hours of me content me. Right? Liam helped me parse these new Persona trailers, because there's a lot going on. When you say trailers, you just mean dancing all night, right?

Well, we've got the Dancing All Night footage, we've got the Persona Q footage, and we've got the new Story trailers for P4U. Okay, so here's what's going on. So P4U, you take the Story, and you throw it in the trash can, and you play the fighting game. And then Persona Q, you look at that, and you purge it from your mind, and throw that in the trash can also. Wait, do you like Etrian Odyssey? Oh, I've never played it. Throw it away.

Okay. Discard it. Go download the Etrian Odyssey demos on your 3DS. Play it for 5 minutes, go, I hate this. Or you love this. And then decide. Okay, so you, Narakami, leaves Inaba. That's right.

And then comes back, and then there's Red Fog and a clock tower that pop out. That's right. And then the P3 people show up. That's right. And then they proceed to dance while taking on Show Minazuki. That's right. The dance is after, I believe. The dance is way after.

The dance is way after. Persona 4 Dancing All Night takes place at the end of the timeline. And for all intents and purposes, Persona Q's story doesn't happen. Yes. But I thought they were all canon. They are. But for all intents and purposes, Persona Q's story doesn't happen. Nothing of consequence happens, and they all forget about it.

The end. Persona Q. Including meeting each other. That's right. That's right. It was all a dream. Okay. And then, oh, Dancing All Night.

But the Red Fog still exists. That's Ultimax. That's different. Dancing All Night, I'm not really caught up on Ultimax's story, but I think Dancing All Night's after Ultimax. Oh, yeah, that's way. Yeah, it's way after that. They're like a year old.

Risei goes back to the city or something and joins up with Kagamine, right? Kagamine, that's it. Yeah. And also, the age appropriateness of the P3 characters is the same for their games, but then in Ultimax, they're older because they're supposed to be. Yeah. So that makes no sense. No, they're older.

They're older. Q takes place, like, midway through Persona 4, timeline-wise, for no reason. So why is Akihiko still a student? Because midway through Persona 4, he probably was. Shut it. It doesn't matter. Yeah. People are only buying that game for the car.

You are describing it. It's the most cute thing. You are describing why Persona Q saw us. In the world. Because it doesn't matter. It's just, it's just Etri and Odyssey with a Persona skin. But look how cute Che looks. They're really, you know what?

It's really cute. It's so cute. Yeah. It's super, super cute. And dancing. I'll be honest, I prefer the new designs from Dancing All Night. Dancing All Night. Everyone's wearing a cool bandana.

Yeah. I gotta say, I'm really happy to hear the recent news of Dancing All Night, where Dingo is no longer developing it, and Persona team is. Yeah. Because Persona team, at least we know they're gonna put out a quality product. Dingo recently put out Love Live on the Vita, which is a rhythm game, which is what they're known for. Boy, was that a paltry, not good game.

Holy, like, what an actual disappointment coming from these guys who were known for it. They're kind of glad to hear it. Yeah, Dancing All Night's been delayed as a result, because they're switching over. But I'm just glad it's in more stable pants. Well, whatever. We'll eat cheese and Dancing All Night now. Yeah.

Everyone's got it. And her design's cool. Kanji's design's so good. Yeah, it is. It is. They all look like realistic proportions. I can't wait to see the rest of the cast, because in the first trailer. It's gonna be every single goddamn character.

Well, in the first trailer, they put a list of characters, and some of them, like Naoto, still haven't shown up on the trailers. Yeah, Naoto's gonna be there. Yeah, Naoto, everyone's gonna be there. Fucking Dojima and Nanako just yet enough. I want both of them. That'd be so awesome. Dude, dude, because the Junes theme remix song is gonna be amazing.

Okay, let's talk about what really matters about this Dancing All Night trailer. The Velvet Room theme that comes on at the end that's like a weird, like, down tempo disc over of the Velvet Room theme is amazing. Yeah. It's amazing. I don't give a shit about this fucking rhythm game, but that soundtrack is gonna be good. I was gonna say even the remix of Your Affection is just great. Great.

Through that trailer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that's the thing, you can hate on it all you want, but you're gonna get that OST day zero. I know. Yeah. And you're probably gonna get that game, too. Yeah, probably.

I need the cards. That's true, right? Yeah, I know. In North America, it's only Persona Q and Ultimax, but that's literally why I'm buying Persona Q just for the cards. For sure. I'm gonna throw it in the garbage. I'm gonna try not to care, and then when I crack, I'm buying on eBay.

Well, no, because you're buying Ultimax, right? Yes. That's the first 10 cards. That's what I'm saying. That's exactly what I'm looking forward to. I hate that so much. And then I'm gonna crack and jump on eBay. Because you're gonna be like, oh, but it doesn't have the world.

They're so good at managing this Persona brand. Fuck. They're so good at it. Why are they so good at it? They're so good. All his brand awareness. All his brand awareness. Persona 5 dancing all night.

I saw a thread where people were discussing who do you think the P5 protagonists, Persona, is gonna be. That's a fucking hard guess. Yeah, and someone threw out Q Kulane. Q Kulane? Q Kulane? Is it Kulane? Okay, sure.

He hates Charles Barkley. Because what's the best sign of being trapped and wanting freedom than being an actual guard dog? I wanna just discard that and say, no, they're gonna make new characters again. All the Persona 4 Personas weren't demons in previous SMTs. Yeah, no, some of them were. Orpheus and Isanagi are not. Totally different designs. They're just gonna be totally new designs.

Orpheus and Isanagi, Messiah, Isanagi, they're all completely new. It'll be fiction. It'll be a myth character. It'll be from something. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, it might not already exist. Exactly. Like, Q Kulane's like a fan favorite in SMT, so I don't think there's enough.

You've had Q Kulane in your party. I don't think they're gonna swap him around. Q Kulane's really fucking cool. Really cool. Really cool. Cooler than Tamlin. It's pretty much the same character. Yeah, he is, yeah he is.

Before you get off this SMT train, fucking Devil Survivor 2 on 3DS back on track for next year. Is it bending better than the first one? Uh, yeah. Okay, sorry, is it easier than the first one? No. Well, then fuck that game. That game's too hard for me. Oh, I can't wait.

Is it any faster than the first one? No. Not that I can remember. Great, alright. That was a slow game for sure. Moving on. Can't wait. Can't wait.

Next order of business? That likes persona more than SMT confirmed. That's not sure at all. Right under the bus. Under as many buses as he can fit under. Yeah. Which is a lot. Next order of business, maggots, centipedes, and barf.

Oh my. Excuse me? You heard me. You're talking about the PT concept trailer, aren't you? We're calling it Silent Hills now. Well, that's a PT concept trailer. It has nothing to do with Silent Hills at all. The people reporting that as a Silent Hills trailer don't read.

It's inaccurate. Oh, wait. When that video comes up, it has the word PT concept trailer on it. Did this whole thing come true? Here's some stuff that we're fooling around with. I wonder if it'll ever get turned into a game. No. This was like the internal concept trailer for the PT demo.

So Konami had like four stage presentations for Metal Gear Solid 5, and they also had one every day for PT. PT, not Silent Hills. PT. PT. This was the internal concept reel for PT. And you look at that, and then you're like, oh, a bunch of this. And you see, there's a lot of parallels, aren't there?

But it's not quite the same. That has nothing to do with Silent Hills. That said, some of those ideas might get updated, but it's not a Silent Hills concept trailer. Well, fuck you. That's not your fault. I'm misleading the shit out of you. I watched that, and it says PT concept trailer at the beginning. Hey, that's not the only one that's like misleading.

This week, my girlfriend pointed me to an article that was, is MGS5 copying Call of Duty by adding a dog? And I fucking spat my drink all over her. Because the art of the dog has existed since before Ghosts was even a sparkle in Bobby Kotick's eye. Yep. It was more of a bastard hound, but there was a diamond dog, and it was years ago. And I don't know. Matt, you came for my place the other day and just asked me. I didn't even say the words.

I didn't know that Bloodborne had local co-op. Yeah. How did that get to you? Because I saw a thread or something that says Bloodborne, and it literally said co-operative play. When I hear those words, like I'm sure he was talking about how the Souls series works. When I hear co-operative play, I think of split screen or local couch mode. Everything is misleading. It's fine, man.

DD is just a rip-off of Blade Wolf. At the end of the day. A dog to a dart? There you go. No. Diamond dog. Oh. What are we looking at?

Wrestling gifts? I'm looking at a gift of Triple H with a shaved head. Yeah, and he's bald. That's in-game. Yep. Wow. Yeah, it's... Wait, wait, show me that.

Fuck you. Holy shit. That's pretty good looking actually. You got me. You got me. Remember, we didn't get to talk about this last podcast. Remember that little controversy between 2K and IGN? Yeah, 2K15.

Yeah. IGN and 2K games? Yeah. What's the story about that? What's this? IGN says to all the readers, hey, everyone, we're going to have the first of the IGN exclusive, like, all of us with a brand new exclusive game. The first one is going to be WWE 2K15.

We're going to get hands-on. We're going to get videos, and it's only here first. And then they go, here's some screenshots of John Cena and Randy Orton, and for two weeks, nothing. Then they say, hey, readers, 2K has given us nothing, and they said they broke our contract, so we have nothing to show you. Nice. So that was the end of the story. 2K just said, fuck you, we're not giving you anything.

After making a contract. And people are saying, because the game is bad, or CM Punk is sued WWE because they still have his likeness in there. So all this fucking controversy, and then some gameplay of the game gets shown at Gamescom. And that's it. Like, the game gets shown there. And some people have blurry off-screen videos. That's it.

Everyone's like, oh, I can't, does it look good? I can't tell. And the trailer today just released that uses a ba wa taba from Kid Rock, which is the most awesome thing ever. And the trailer's really super cool. And when they looked at the people's entrances, like, they look that good now. Can we watch this right after? I really want to see it.

Sure, I posted it on our Facebook. Is there gameplay? Or is it just... It's all gameplay. You know what gives me a lot... Is it cinematic cuts, or is it gameplay cuts? It's cinematic cuts, but... But it's all in engine stuff.

It's all in engine stuff. You know what gives me a lot of faith about your game? Like, pulling out of coverage of it. Yeah. And lighting it for a year. Also, the current gen version is out in November, whereas the PS3 and 360 version is out in October. Right. So when it comes to wrestling games, the first thing I want to see is a controller button

layout screen. Like, I wish... You know what, that's kind of... I wish that was the first thing I saw. Liam's all been up the loot craze. I gotta make noise at Cookie and that loot craze. Game for the cookies. Going straight home to Cookie.

No thanks. I'll have a Cookie, man. I don't mind that. I'll keep talking. I'll keep talking while this happens. But the trailer, like... It's like, I don't want to get hyped. But...

I'm a little hyped. No. It's gonna look good. It's probably gonna play like shit. Hopefully it doesn't. But you know what? They're... They're literally hiding the game.

But you know what? As long as it looks good, it's like... The other games, 2K13 or 14, they look bad. They play bad. But if you look good, it's like, I'll give you time until you actually play good. Okay, okay. I will agree with Matt only on one portion of this. If the game looks fantastic and photorealistic, but still has as many horrible bugs in it...

They'll be even better than before. I am eagerly looking forward to this game in that way. Because those animated gifs... Because photorealistic horrible collision bugs are so good. Amazing. They're so good. Well, I would look forward to the character creator and all the bullshit that can ensue from that. But if the game's a fucking mess, it doesn't get a pass.

No, I don't mean get a pass in terms of you should buy. I mean get a pass in terms of like, I don't mind having this. A pass of such as, then you match and buy it. The most beautiful version of rage you'll ever see. You get to see the true sports game. The best version of Zubaz you could possibly see. That's true. Too real.

The version we made of Zubaz in 2K, whatever was like the best version. Like how much beard is there to a true to life Zubaz? A lot. It's debatable. It's a lot. Yo, if you want to send us a letter. Yeah. What?

Asking us. Anything. About how much beard Zubaz needs to have. Yeah. You can send it. Let me get a cookie in my mouth. Okay. Yeah.

So we'll shove it. Just get the full end out one bite. Say the thing. And then say it. Super best friendcast at gmail.com. We're kind of having another one. What was that, Willie? Super best friendcast at gmail.com.

A third time. What was that? Super best friendcast at gmail.com. I see. Full on cookie mouth. Let's go into the letters. Dive in. Also you don't have to ask us a question.

You can just send an email that would be like sup. That's true. We won't answer it. Yeah. But we'll think about it. Because the podcast is the answer to the question. But we'll think about it. Or Willie will think about it.

And he'll be like, I'm doing alright. Nathan wants to know, why does Pat say I unironically love blank? As in I unironically love insane clown posse. I remember I'm saying that. And how does one, well how does one ironically love ICP? Okay, very easily. It's just to let people know that you're being clear about it. Yeah, no.

So I ironically love a lot of things. I'm kind of a, no fuck that. No, because hipsters exist. And they ironically love shit all the time. I ironically love pro wrestling. But then I actually unironically love pro wrestling. It's where, you know, there's a lot of bad garbage out there that you love for its shit. Or if you want to actually use wrestling terms, you love it kayfabe and you love it chute.

Yeah. But I use it to say things that, if I were to say I love this, you would automatically assume I'm being ironic. But I'm not. Yeah. I'm not. I think the easiest way to explain it is it just means so bad it's good. Yeah.

Yeah. And by the way, when I was checking my phone a little while ago, someone said, hey, if you guys like Samurai Cop, you should check out a movie called Skeleton Man. What? That's right up our alley. We have to look into that. And it's so bad it's good movies. And he said Skeleton Man.

And I was like, I'd never heard of that. Sounds pretty good. Because we got some recommending Miami Connection. It's like, yeah, we know about Miami Connection. You know what? I'll say it right off the bat. I watched Miami Connection and it's like not nearly as funny as Samurai Cop. But the trailer was perfect.

Oh, the trailer is better than the movie. They shoot that snake. That's pretty good. Yeah. No, not hard tickets in Hawaii. No, no, this is Miami Connection. This is against the ninja band. Okay, you're right.

You're right. A coed group of special forces agents search the wilderness for a predator type creature that has been on a killing spree. That's Skeleton Man. Skeleton Man. 2004 TV movie. 2004? Super recent.

It's a predator rip off with apparently horrendous special effects. Yeah, I'll give it a go. We'll have to think about this. We'll have to think about it. Julian wants to know, do you guys have any experience with Guilty Gear and what's the learning curve like? Because I'm thinking about getting a $400 exert stick. Wait, it's $400?

That sounds a bit much. He must live in Antarctica. That sounds a bit much. Because the shipping would put it up to $400. Isn't it $200? It might be a custom stick. We have a bit of experience with Guilty Gear. The ins and outs of how to play.

Guilty Gear kicks ass. It is not a hard game to learn. No. I'd say go for it. Maybe it's a lot of money. Guilty Gear is a really cool game. The learning curve is not that high. You can start playing decently.

I'd say it's easier to pick up than Blaze Blue. I'd also say don't buy a stick if you're not sure how a learning curve is. Just use a pad because it's a four-button game. Five. No. Dust. Isn't that a combination of two points? No.

Am I crazy? Whatever. It's a shoulder bum. It's not a six-button game where you have to put kicks on the triggers. Woolly. Kicks on the trigger. You're making a joke about that. I know, but that's where they go anyway by default.

I know, but that's wrong. Guilty Gear plays fine on a pad. Absolutely. Give it a go first before you spend $400 on a stick. Ixard looks really great. It plays really great. Connor wants to know what's a trope you're sick of and what's one you can't get enough of? The one I can't get enough of is abrupt time skip.

Yeah. Without warning. Time skip. I'm a big fan of time skip. I can't get enough of survival game either. Can't get enough of that. I'm sick of true evil unmentioned bosses behind the plot of it all. Like the big bad?

The big bad that you never knew about until the last second. That's just ugh. And I can't get enough of beat the boss. Now he's playable. Yeah, that one's a good one. I'm kind of sick right now. I don't know if that's a trope because I don't know how many games do that nowadays. I guess is the most recent example that comes to mind.

But it's been a while. Exactly. I mean everything between that and Magus. Of course. Yeah. I'm kind of sick of the relatively recent thing of everything's in shades of grey. No one's right or wrong. Did I make the right decision?

Remember how I talked about Wolfenstein? How much I love how you're just a fucking hero and it feels like it's been a long time. I remember you didn't like The Last of Us ending. The fact that you didn't like it is just like it was so like we don't want to tell you how to feel. And just here's a bunch of stuff. Yeah, I'm going to agree with you on that Matt. Like you know why I like D.O.? Because he's fucking evil.

And he loves it. He loves being evil. He's a bad guy. He's a murderous shitbag. I'm just tired of how many games try to do that now. And that's why Wolfenstein. Because in Wolfenstein you were a hero and you're fighting a villain. The problem with shades of grey is that the witcher exists and you're not going to beat the witcher's shades of grey?

No, but I super do disagree in that I love when a bad guy has amazing motivation for what he's doing. I feel like that doesn't happen often. I'm sick of the developer thinking that the bad guy has an amazing motivation, but it's not. Yeah, no, that's garbage. Like if you treat it like it's good and then you just fucking suck. And I'm like, I don't care that you had a rough childhood, whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no, no, no.

Totally garbage. I think we've had finishing the Walking Dead season 2 came out of it thinking like, yes. But when I watch something like Old Boy, I go, oh, yes. It's so like, you need your moral compass spinning when you watch this movie. And shit like that is the right way to handle characters where it's not just good and evil. Because this guy, what was it? The killing joke? One bad day. It's all it took for one man to become walking. I like that. I think that's good writing when handled properly.

If they think the story is compelling and it's not, we have a problem. Absolutely. This is more of a graphical thing, but I'm already getting tired of chromatic aberration. Oh, yeah. Because chromatic aberration is the new depth of field and lens flare and HDR and stuff like that. Hard reset gets away with it because it's hard reset. It's the game. It's built around it. Yeah, but what's chromatic aberration?

It's a hard thing to describe. It's the rainbow effect around an object when you would de-goss a monitor. Oh, yeah, yeah. That thing that they've been doing in hip-hop videos for the last 15 years. With the beat drops. Is that a decent explanation of what that actually is? It is. Because the only thing I think of is de-gossing a monitor. It is. It is a good explanation.

The best explanation is if you google chromatic aberration, the first or second picture with a little metal horse is like, Oh, I know what that is. I've seen that all my life. There's a really great thing like that in terms of just googling stuff to find out. It's a WebM of 30 FPS versus 60. It's the one that teaches everybody. Here it is. You know the one I'm talking about? There's punch.

My girlfriend was like, what's the difference? I was playing infamous first light and it's got the toggle and then I punched her. And I just toggled it and she's like, oh, there you go. You punched her with knowledge. Yeah, exactly. Take that. For a trope that I'm way, way into, this is broader than games. And originally, my brain literally went to triumphing over the villain due to the power of friendship.

And I'm like, wait, no, that's not actually what I want. But the persona endings three and four have a situation like that. And I'm like, that's not the core of what I'm thinking about. What I am thinking about is the natural culmination of everything that you have done up until this point is what allows you to succeed. And in persona, it's building the S-links and you see it vividly. You see, because I did all of this, now I get to succeed. And the best example I can come up with is not from a game. It's from an anime.

And I'm going to spoil the end of the first season of EPO to do this. Sure. But to beat the champ and become the Japanese champion, EPO does a combination of moves that he spent 10 episodes each learning. Cultivating. And he does them all in one big combo and that's what brings him to the top. It is the best way to get the feeling of progression that what you did actually mattered. The skill you learned, this one and this one and this one and the thing you got, you all put them together.

Zelda does that to an extent where you need the light arrows and the gems and all that shit to be given. The baffledads as well. But here's what sucks is when that's happening, but another trope is happening where the guy's got to get back up. He's got to struggle to get back up. Like, I'm tired of that. I'm really tired of it. P3 did that the best. The last time I saw that and it got a feeling out of me was the Namco X Capcom intro.

No. The last time it got me, well, MGS4 is good, but the last one for me was wonderful 101 actually. The getting back up thing. It's so good. Because it's a Tokusatsu thing. It is. The best one in recent memory is Punch Out for the Wii. Yeah.

You're right. Because he doesn't even go down. He just puts the foot out like, no! You're right. You're right. That's great. Of course, we always talk about amazing music buildups and stuff. The opposite effect.

Where, walk into this area, the music stops. And it has to be in the game in which music or ambient noise is ever present. Ever present. In which the silence actually hits you. Like, bam. What the fuck is this? Definitely. That's a nice touch as well.

Fun, tropes are awful. Don't go to TV tropes. You'll lose your day. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, Alex says, I recently got my hands on my own Oculus Rift. My mind was blown the fuck up initially from just the simplest demo. Sitting at a stationary desk and leaning around and looking at stuff.

What do you guys hope to see with the future of VR? What genre of game would you really like to see an appearance on the Rift? Pornography. Yeah, you got me. That's it. It's the next level. It's the next genre. Next question.

Also tell my friend Anthony to stop being a babby tear plump. Anthony, stop being a babby tear plump. What type of... Yo, Tony, suck it. What type of genre of game would we like to see? I want way more asymmetrical games. I want shit like, keep talking and nobody blows up. Yeah.

I want shit like that. You want space team. Space team. Space team as well. Exactly. Just that idea of the guy with the Oculus on, see something. Everyone else in the room has to do something as well. Yeah.

That's great. I don't actually want to play this game, but I want it to exist really, really, really badly. And I want full Oculus support for shit like the Japanese train games. Desperately, yeah. Or Euro Trucker or shit like that. Desert Bus. Or it's just like, I'm way into...

For the people that are into it, I'm way into pretending I'm driving this fucking truck. Now it is your life. I'm in Italy to UK. And you just fucking, no, I'm gonna immerse myself. I'm gonna truck this shit. And you can look out the side window without having to press a key. Yeah. Well, just look.

Is that kind of like when the Simpsons were barred? It's like, I don't want to mow the lawn. And then they go to like a science expo. Lawn mowing simulators. Lawn mowing simulators. And then a barge is like, but you could do that. There's a game on Steam right now about like figuring out how to get your car out of the mud.

And that's the entire game. That's great. Okay. Well, the true-to-life version of that, if anything, is the friend that was trying to go to... He wanted to be a pilot. So he spent hours. Yeah.

He'd wake up, sit down. Watching wings of mayonnaise. Yeah. He'd do a nine-hour flight on his computer and he would simulate doing the flight with Microsoft Flight Simulator. Right. And... So yeah.

No, what I want from Oculus is simulation. I want to simulate car rides and pornography. Can you combine those two? I want to point out, I didn't say sex. I... I said pornography. I want to be the spritzer. I kind of want a new light gun game that's all first-person.

Too spicy. And it uses the motion detection that is possible with Oculus and accessories to determine that, yes, you are hiding behind that cover and not looking for... You can look over and get back up and keep shooting because that's totally doable with that tech. I would say for me, like the one thing I really want to, because the both two times where I played like a 3D-ish thing and it was amazing or I had fun, but it was a while ago, is a boxing game.

Because when I went to the Virtual Reality Cafe in Montreal that I think will be vaguely remembers. Yeah. Virtual worlds. Virtual worlds. They didn't have boxing. They had boxing one time. Ooh.

I went in there and it was literally virtual boxing. Like they looked like... I played a boxing game and I had so much fun. And when I played the only good Virtual Boy game, Tell Role Boxer, that game was fucking awesome. And I loved it. I'd love to actually play like a cool boxing game, like a VR. Were the head slips actually matter?

Yeah. Get a good workout out of that. Yeah. Just a little notice from Jonathan. Oh, also, obviously, also I should mention the VR MMO. That's what I want. Of course, yeah. We've talked about that.

That's what I want. That would be nice. Yeah. If you guys like the road. Road years of anticipation. If you like the road, the movie was based on a book by a guy named Cormac McCarthy. Yes. He also wrote No Country for Old Men.

Yes. He wrote a series of books and da-da-da-da. Here's a set of specific book recommendations and their themes. Blood Meridian, he wrote, which is the Old West was horrible. Yeah. No Country for Old Men. Greedy people are horrible. That's right.

All the pretty ponies, everyone is horrible. Okay. And the road, you should probably kill yourself if things ever get this bad. Yeah. So there you go. That's a good chart. What a sad man. Cormac McCarthy flow chart.

It's true. Learn it. Uh, we got one coming in from Cornbread. All right. Cornbread. Yeah, Cornbread. Ain't nothing wrong with that. Have you ever seen someone in real life who you thought had a good character design?

Yeah, boy, you know that shit well. Yes. I can't get enough of that. I do nothing but stare. I do people watching. You're fucking weird. I don't know. A fighting game character right there.

You leave them and you point it out and you go look at this. And there's one time where Matt and I were walking back from work, I think. I was with you at the time. I think we were coming back from work or a movie and our entire trip down. We saw like four people who were amazing. We saw a roster of like Montreal Street Fighter people. Like just, these are people off the streets of Montreal that would be perfect fighting game characters.

Yeah, it's really awesome when it happens. Yeah. I had a friend of mine back in college that modeled my head because I used to wear a bandana instead of a hat. Yeah, he did. He was hanging out and he was like, oh, your head looks like perfect for like an FPS type thing. You have a good type of thing designed for that.

And then you got into SSX. It makes me want to shoot it. There you go. And I know this girl that is like, like mocha and has a really cool fro that I just keep saying like you're like perfect for any sort of... For EA Sports Big. Whatever. Pick fiction.

Like that's a great design for that. Yeah, man. I love that. I love when you see people that you go like, you are... It's happened a long time though to me. I haven't seen anyone that looks cool. Anyone interesting? No.

I mean, you know... It comes in waves. Exactly. You go into your binder groceries and then fucking the next protagonist of an FF game walks by. Yeah, exactly. I went to a kid... I went to school with a kid that had Vigito hair.

Vigito punch him? No. He showed up. There was a kid in my high school who loved DBZ so much and he spiked his hair and every day he would change it from blonde to black because he's like, no. And now he has no hair. No hair. Every day?

Yeah, every day. That's really bad for your hair. He was a huge Tekken player too. Of course he was. He did mention that. Yeah. Take that Tekken. Alex wanted to know why Pat had such a hate boner for Persona Q but I think we covered

that. Oh, we covered that. Because it's nothing and I hate entry in Odyssey. It's nothing. Breaker. Like it really all levels on do you like entry in Odyssey or not? And the answer is no. And then that's it.

Like, I don't want to play entry in Odyssey. So fuck you. I like I have the beholders too. I don't like entry in Odyssey. Breaker says I stared away from cross Tekken because I didn't like the way it looked in the gross DLC bullshit. You're right. But whenever it's talked about I hear you guys say the phrase standardized damage.

Can you explain a bit more of what you're talking about? Yeah, so I showed this to Woolly one time and he lost his shit. I had no idea. Because it's appalling. The light, medium and hard attacks for every character do 30, 60 and 90 damage. There's a couple exceptions. With the exception of heavies which do 10 more on each of their buttons. Yeah, exactly.

There's a couple exceptions to that but 90% of the cast it's 30, 60, 90. You smoothed out the roster. So here's what the problem with that is. Fighting games don't do that. Everyone is balanced individually so that the speed of the... Every move. Every kick. Every punch.

The speed of the move you do. The recovery. How fast it comes out. How long it's active. How big it is. How big the hitbox is. Exactly. Combined with the number of damage it does are all tuned individually for balance.

Making a good move or bad move. And when you don't have time or you're lazy. It's definitely a time issue here. You just say fuck it. The ultimate balance is no balance. Everyone is the same except for the slow guys. And that'll be back. Because that's the one that most people will notice.

Because that's... So standard night damage is a tangible representation of laziness. The main issue is like you see 30, 60, 90 and then you're like oh the game was made in two years. Plus it has... This is how they made the game in two years. Plus it has such a ginormous roster where it's like a bunch of blue characters that have never been in a Street Fighter game before. We don't have time for that. Two years with no location tests because there's no arcade release.

So they don't get to tweak it. You remember when we were in that plane and we were talking down the Street Fighter Cross Tekken roster. And then I pulled it open on my Vita just so we could look at it. And we were both just like oh my god this is huge. There's way too many characters. There's for our first iteration game. It's absurd that game. For your first iteration you get 8 to 16 characters if you don't want it to suck.

You know like I applaud their attempt but boy did that not work out. And you know why Tekken has a huge roster because they built that shit up. If Vanilla had all the cast that Ultra does it would have been way shittier. The worst game in the world. Good mugen. It's a bit much. But Street Fighter III New Generation was like 8 characters and still sucked. Still sucked.

But even then it was just like it wasn't even that it sucked. It was just it had way balanced problems. No I hated it. I hated New Generation. Like the instant I touched it I was like ugh. The feeling and visual fidelity were nice. The visual fidelity you're right was fucking through the roof. Can't compete with that.

Yeah but I played it the first time in like 2004. Oh when you were still playing. Exactly. Adam asked a related question. He gives it a big explanation but he's like I'm a beginner. Why am I better at 3rd strike than Super Turbo? And he basically says I remember you guys saying that 3rd strike is harder. No.

That's not true. That's not true. ST is fucking right. If we said that we're wrong. So like your explanation here. The damage is so high. The explanation you're giving here is based on the premise that we said ST is an easier game than 3rd strike and that's wrong.

If we said that at some point. That is factually incorrect. ST is way harder. That's what's up. You're getting your ass handed to you because it's a fucking harder game. Three good guesses. Like every character plays like Makoto in that game. Three good guesses.

You just dodge. You win. Exactly. You need two combos and you get a read. There's a lot more stuff in 3rd strike. We talk about the fact that 3rd strike has no forgiveness on your execution but ST has even less if that makes any sense. Yeah.

Sometimes it has random execution stuff like sometimes you can do this reversal in seven frames. Sometimes you can do it in eight or nine or ten. The exact example I was going to give was reversals in that like a game like 3rd strike is advanced enough that you can do a DP before you get up and it'll come out because you're within the window. But ST, what move are you trying to do? All right, we'll get the book out.

Yeah. Figure out how many frames you've got. Yeah, it's a harder game, dude. That's all. Also, if you're playing as half the cast, it is incredibly harder because it's not super, super balanced. Oh no, ST's not balanced. Leg.

Yeah. You want to play as Honda? Go die. Go die. No. Honda has unblockable shit. Talk to fellow. Yeah, but the most popular character in Street Fighter II is Ryu and that's the worst matchup

dude placed fifth at EVO. Yeah, no, but I'm saying if this guy plays Honda. Yes. Yeah, no, for sure. Against other scrubs though, like. Ryu strikes Honda. Yeah, yeah. No, that's it.

Lucas asks. Hey, you're not in Smash anymore. People are not really that upset. I'm not that upset. I'm just like, go play Mother 3. Just go play. Everyone just go play Mother 3. Can I call it Earthbound 2?

You sure? Okay. Just go play. Dude, the English patch is perfect. It is so perfect. Did Brawl spoil it for me? No. What's the question?

I was going to say I'm surprised that Nintendo didn't show up instead. But anyway. What's so exact? He looks too much like Nas. Basically a friend of mine wondering if there's any other game besides Dark Souls or games like in the Souls series that give NPC characters as well as bosses a great backstory and personality. Oh. As good as that.

Also name drops No More Heroes. No More Heroes is a pretty good example. Yeah, sure. Neer does it surprisingly well. Just random people have. I can't think of anyone that does it as the Souls series because in Demons and Dark One like the fucking NPCs have their own goddamn side quests that they do totally without relation to you. Yeah.

And I think that's amazing. I think that's the best thing ever. Fucking up Ostrava's thing is still the worst. Yeah. Low Trek? Amazing. Yeah. Low Trek's great.

Yeah. Those are two good examples, dude. Sigmyre is the prowest. He's such a cool guy. I'm having a hard time coming up with anything besides. There's probably a lot of examples in JRPGs that we haven't played or just that we completely forget. But I can't think of any games that there are entire channels like Vaughty devoted to talking about backstory of characters.

I guess like the Metal Gear series. Yeah. Yeah. I know that you hate Chrono Cross. I do. I hate Chrono Cross. But it is one thing that was interesting about it was like as you're going through the world talking to NPCs, you suddenly talk to an NPC that has a portrait.

Yeah. And it's like, oh, this person kind of matters. You're like, oh, okay. They'll have eight sentences about them for the rest of the game and that's it because the roster's like 200 and it's poorly fleshed out because the game sucks. I just had an argument with the girlfriend about this like two days ago. She's like, I'm playing Chrono Cross. I'm really liking it.

Why don't you like it again? And it just spewed out of my mouth. Yeah. I like your fist. I think that goes words. I don't know how it was executed to the end because my fucking save was lost. But I think that concept of like having an expanding roster is interesting. Yeah.

But they're all interchangeable. None of them have any depth except for kid. And if it's the same problem as Cross Tekken that we just finished talking about, then that's no good. They search, links, and Harlequin are the only four characters that actually matter in that game. They do a similar thing but better in Skies of Arcadia and in Radiata Stories. You're right. Skies of Arcadia.

Shadows of the Damns had all those funny creepy tales about its roster. That's true. I like that. But I don't think anything can compete with the Souls series on that front. Probably not. And if it is, we're just completely blanking on it. Colin wants to know, what's the sweetest revenge you've ever gotten? I can't talk about it.

Oh, I know. I know that one. There's a reason I'm under house arrest. Anubis. For like a year and a half. Anubis is the sweetest revenge in a game. In a game? Yeah.

Oh, the sweetest revenge ever? The real life. Oh, I can't talk about that because it doesn't say anything. I'm thinking of the real life. It's too dark. I didn't commit any crimes. No. I just benefited from bad things happening to other people.

And it fills me with joy. I didn't actually do any of the revenge. The revenge happened. It happened around you. Around it. Bad people did bad things to you and then really bad things happened to them. The universe decided to give me one. And then like the laughter and darkness on your face every time you recount that story is fucked.

But it's yeah. I'll give a short version. Here we go. A guy threatened to sue me over nothing and then died. And just died. And that's good life. Oh, man. And I was like, oh, okay.

Oh, bitch. Fine. That's great. Get sued by a skeleton man. A dead man can't sue you. It's true. I will not answer anything about that situation ever. I'm having a hard time thinking of life.

The closest thing for me I guess is like just in terms of real life is my dad, wherever he is. Fuck it. Yeah, exactly. That's how you start that one out. No. That's a sentence, isn't it? No, he's like, hey, he wanted, he wanted my brother and I to be a lawyer, be a doctor. And that's what you gotta do to be successful.

And I remember when I was at a wake for somebody and I met a friend of his and whatever, introduced me and then he dismissed my piercings and dreads to the friend as a phase. And I'm like that. I'm like 26. You're called really a failure. So I think just the fact that this all exists and is successful is revengeable. I've been thinking about kicking you out due to your dreads and your fate and your piercings. I don't know if you've noticed, but the clang of your piercings together is audible.

There you go. It's a problem. It's a problem. Never mind the fact that I have piercings. Your dad was right. No. I don't know. Honestly, there's a rap song that says revenge is petty, Liam.

There's a rap song that says success is the best revenge and I live by that. I believe that's awesome. I don't really have anything that I can think of. You're not a big revenge guy. I'm not even accidental revenge. I can't think of anything. Yeah, I can't possibly justify taking active revenge on someone because I'd feel bad. But if you got a telegram saying, bless died, Matt.

You can't hear a little bit of space over the camera, over the audio. If some sort of grand misfortune happened to anyone, it's like I can't think of anyone that slighted me enough that I would consider revenge here. Or, yeah, Liam. Right, I got you. No, I agree with you. Yeah. I can think of a couple of people I wouldn't piss on if they were on fire, though.

Like, oh, it's a shame you're on fire. I didn't want someone to put out the fire in that manner. How do you take it? You're on fire. Your options are low here. Your options are low. You can roll it on the ground or he'll piss on you. I believe you described that to me of someone that was eating breakfast.

I would not piss on them if they were burning. Yeah, yeah. Good stuff. There we go. No, I think the moral of the story here is like, we're not actively going out for revenge on people, but sometimes it just happens. It's the difference between vengeance and shouting fraud. Shading fraud.

Shading fraud. Shading fraud, yeah. Shading fraud. Everybody loves that shit. I love it. Oh, it's the best. But actually, taking revenge, don't do it. You'll feel empty inside.

It's petty. You'll feel empty. You won't be perfect. You'll either feel empty or you'll feel super sad. What revenge story ever comes away with the main character going, yeah! No, they always come away like, oh, I got my revenge. Yeah, well, I think there are stories where they're like, yeah, but... Okay, Nino Montoya is different.

But there's always the story of the main character that's out for revenge, and then when he achieves it or doesn't, he learns the way that, no, this is not the path. This is not right. It's a hollow. Be a good person. Be a good kid, kid. That's a fucking email. Holy shit.

Yeah, and I'm going to summarize it with the subject. Okay. Robert wants to know, what's your opinion of side missions? Side missions? They're great. Side missions can often be the best part of a game, like Arkham City. Side missions are amazing when they have substance. They're terrible when they're garbage.

I was going to say, infamous Creed 1. Infamous Second Son, the side missions are garbage. They're drag. Drag was the word I was going to use, actually. They're so boring. So boring. But in other games, the side missions are incredible and super memorable. One of you guys told me about a game where a side mission turns out to be the rest of the plot.

Yeah, that's Persona 1. That's awesome. That's so cool. That's so cool. I love that. But also stuff in older RPGs, and forgive me if I'm misremembering, but in the first Breath of Fire, where you could recruit Bloor and she was an optional character. Who the fuck knows?

I might be misremembering that, but optional characters and stuff like that. The guys of Arcadia, like y'all crude fucking 200 pirates or whatever. That's awesome. Here's the deal for me. My favorite game, maybe of all time right now, is New Vegas. That game is nothing but side missions. That's all that game is, is wander and do shit that doesn't matter. And if those side missions were weak, that game would crumble.

Oh, but they're the best. They're the best. They're as important as your main mission. Depending on your genre, they can be way more important than your main mission. Open world games, I'd say they're more important. And fetch quests are not inherently garbage. They're not inherently garbage, but you've got to dress them up and make me not realize it's a fetch quest.

Yeah. You've got to guss you out. Like Dragon's Dogma did fetch quests to make it pay by making the ability to travel between places incredibly difficult. So it's like the fetch quests just go one town over and you're like, whoa. I don't know if I can make it. Yeah, exactly. Getting to that mountain region just to buy armor was like fucking bad.

I don't need that armor that bad. Yeah, it was nuts. Like Zelda has fetch quests, like go get these stones to do the magic thing. And it's like, yeah, okay. But sometimes it's like go get this thing that turns out to be an item or weapon that you're going to now want. And those are fantastic. Yeah, exactly.

Because it's like, yeah, I want to fetch that. I didn't even know I wanted to. Exactly. So if your side, if your side mission is a template, like there's going to be multiple, then I want a goddamn good reward at the end of it. And if it's not a template, make it unique so that I enjoy doing it on its own merits. A similar thing to what you're saying is in Ground Zero is the side missions are just templates, but they're all gussied up with new voice acting and new opening cutscenes

and a credit sequence for each one. And again, deja vu and jami vu are just incredible. Yeah, controversial statement. Here's how you change up Ocarina of Time. You know those three stones you get to do nothing? Yeah. Those three stones are Dyn's Fire, Neru's Love, and Ferrar's Wind. That's not controversial.

That would be different. I beat Ocarina of Time. I might never use the single spell. Exactly. But if the stones did something, even occasionally, as opposed to nothing, that'd be a better game. No, here's controversial. They each give you a superpower.

Yeah. One lets you shoot the sword laser, one lets you jump super high. I get you. You get the point. In Link's Awakening, you collect secret seashells, and when you get enough, you get the level two sword, and it kicks ass. Right? So yeah, that kind of stuff's great.

Yeah. Just on the way, they should be doing things too. And they do. When you get 20, you get the L2 sword, but on the way, you get heart containers and stuff like that. Exactly. Nicholas asks a hypothetical question. Go to someone's house to play a competitive two-player game.

This happens. They only have one first-party controller and one crappy third-party controller. What do you do? What do you do? You lead. You hold the mad cat's ninja skeleton controller, and you feel your hands bleed, and you play. The black N64 controller with the broken stake on it. I'd say you rock, paper, scissors, and whoever loses.

Okay, is it a competitive game that I'm obviously better at? I'll take the bad controller. Okay, fair enough. If you're even ground, yeah, RPS, loser takes it. Honestly, some third-party controllers are amazing. Like, the Hori N64 controller is amazing. It looks like a fucking GameCube controller almost. Do you know the one?

It's the black one? Black or purple, or there's a couple colors. No, I don't know. It's stellar. It's fucking stellar. Because I know an awful one, and I had a purple shitty Dreamcast controller. You did. Man!

Wow, the default Dreamcast pad is so bad. I can't even imagine how bad the third-party ones are. You can feel it, it's right over there. Oh, yeah? Okay, we'll do this afterwards. I can't remember the brands, but there's a lot of decent, actually, NES, SNES, N64 third-party controllers. Yeah, but we're not talking about those ones. I know, but there's a lot of decent ones.

You just walk out? Yeah, so for me, it is the first time this has happened, and I'll stay and use the shit one. If it's any time after that, I'm either gonna go home, just leave, or go home and bring back my good one. Like, you guys have seen my house. I have good controllers out of the box, backup controllers, and then in the box on my shelf controllers to avoid this scenario, because I hate it so much. You hate it? Yeah.

Here's the amazing Hori N64 controller, by the way. Oh, that one, I remember that one. I remember that one. Yeah, sure. It's a game controller. Sure. I would always go way out of my way to have this situation never happen on my house. We got one coming in from Vic, and he says,

Recently, I started watching Gundam build fighters, and it gave me the urge to start models of gun, gunplay models again. Yeah. Gunpla. Which leads me to buying model kits. My question is, have you ever watched the thing that made you want to do something, and then you just went out and did it in that way? I guess. Like, you watch the thing that's like, hey man, do the thing, and you're like, you know what, I will do the thing. When I was like 11 years old, I watched pornography, and I wasn't supposed to, and then it made me want to go out and have sex with girls.

Right. That's a good first start. All right. For anyone who's played Teraway, there's a thing at the end where it's like, yeah, now go out and do thing, and I went out and did thing. I saw him gun it. What? Like, I watched the whole thing as they make like, gunpla models, and they fight them. They fight.

And so after he saw that, he went out and did it. So if you're playing a sewing game. Okay, Matt, here's my example. I watched Tecara no Go. I loved it. Oh, yeah. When I first played Go, Go's now my favorite board game. Okay, okay.

Or that guy we used to know who loved Phoenix Wright and then went and became a lawyer. Yeah, exactly. Oh man. That went well. Or that mother guy we know who watched Initial D and then didn't go out and become a race car. Did not. Told us he did. But keeps telling everyone that he did.

That liar. Or Bless, who once listened to a rap album. Never became a rapper. And then became a rapper. Not a rapper. So famous that he got into Def Jam. Plattenberg. You're not liking this, Matt.

Anything? Yeah, I don't actually have anything like that either. Nothing comes to mind. Like, you know, I'd watch like Techman Blade or something and be like, I want to go to space one day. That's as far as that actually goes. I have no ambition. All right.

Gavin and a lot of people are basically saying, dear Superb Raps friends, please help with my butt hurt. I just finished watching your Naruto video. I'm a huge Naruto fan. That's right. Naruto fan. Yeah. And now there's Salt if you are and I don't know what to do with it.

Okay. You had a similar experience where someone you respected and followed, bashed something you were super into and how do you deal with it? Okay. I was on the way here. On the way here. I was listening to last week's Giant Bomb Cast where they take like 20 minutes to just shit all over anime because they all hate it.

It happens. You remember? Yeah. And Brad's like, I tried to watch Kill the Kill and just... You remember when they called JoJo Bootleg persona? Yeah. People like to have things, man. And the thing that gets me about the Naruto thing in particular, it's like, how many episodes

do I have to watch before I'm allowed to hate it? I watched 150 of them. I didn't fucking dip my... You did the time. I didn't dip my toe in this and decided I hated it. I mean, the other important thing is not just people like different things, but it's okay. And when I go on the internet a lot and when I talk to people about Two Best Friends, a lot of people pussy foot around stuff, but I'm like, if you don't like me, that's fine.

Yeah. You don't have to like me. No, my life is a joke. I don't have to like... You've given me the courage. I think it's about time. How many episodes does it take until I'm allowed to hate it? Fucking Hunter X Hunter.

Everyone has been wondering for a while, I'm sorry. The most popular anime on Crunchyroll. I fucking hate it. I know you do. I can't watch the shit. The goalpost was moved, I remember a standard, people said four episodes and then it got moved to eight. Yeah.

Well, I always said I give it to Golden Four and if everyone gets on my ass, I will give it four more. And that's exactly what I did with Hunter X Hunter. And then to the point where I went all the way up to the beginning of the fucking exams, I gave it to 12 and it's just the most predictable fucking... It's like it was awful. Hey, this is going to upset a lot of people, but if that's okay, we don't have to like the same thing.

Specifically for Naruto, people have to like... We all watched Naruto for quite a while. No, not alien. Okay, but since we're in the video... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I watched at least 60 episodes of like the anime and then tried Shippuden. It's like... And when we did the video, we're not trying to be malicious, it's just like we were actually

looking at like, this is what the fuck happened to this... I'm making all of myself in that video. Yeah. Totally. Also, like... Remember when you did Caribbean? Yes, I did. Did you Maru?

So when people said, what do I do with my butthole? It's like, we're not trying to be malicious. It's like, you know, some things like whatever... Allow time to pass. Allow time to pass. Someone asked me on my Tumblr, I believe, well, Matt, I really love Naruto. Why the fuck did you do that? What would you do if I made a video where I make fun of Berserk?

And I went like, that's hilarious. Yeah, exactly. But also like, if we ever got into a talk with you, we would never just giggle at you and shit. It's kind of like, no, like you like Naruto. That's fine. It's fine. Me and Liam, I'm talking about Sordard on this fucking podcast.

Like, me and Pat, well, Pat hates like 50% of the things I love. It's true. And it's like, that's... You love 50% of the things I hate, and that's just as big of a problem. While I was watching the Naruto episode, like, it got to the part where they're doing the backstory of the Akatsuki. And I stopped listening to you guys because I was actually like, oh shit, how did they actually do that?

Like, part of me still wanted to know. You want to get into it, like, Naruto is not unique. Like, how many you and me, how many episodes did we actually watch of Bleach? For me, it was 49. For me, it was like hundreds. I watched maybe like 16. I watched all the way until the Isen did that thing. That's yeah.

That's what I watched. That's 49. No, that's a lot more than 49. And he was watching not too long ago. Yeah. And like, fuck that, but I watched it because it was something to watch. I guess. And the other thing is when these series have like, go into over the 200s, it's like, fuck

anything. I'm a shock that like, one piece like, held up relative quality, like, all the way into 250, and I'm going to go back to it eventually. But remember, it's the same thing. But if you think that sucks, that's fine. It's like when Dexter and Breaking Bad finish around the same time, it's like Dexter got to eight seasons. It always gets dumb.

Yeah. Like, where Breaking Bad was kind of getting there, but it's still a finish strong with what's fine. But this ties into a bigger thing of like, me liking something that you don't like or disagree does not, is not me shitting on you. So like, I'm still getting every day people sending me messages about how Reese sucks. Every single day. It's like, I get that we disagree, but like, get over it.

Get over it. People's main problem is that they like us, but it's like, oh, I like you guys. You should not, you should like the thing that I like. I think it's more just a disappointment thing where it's just like, oh, that's what I mean. It's a bummer. I really was hoping they'd like it. Exactly.

Yeah. You know, and I fucking, I hate the part of myself that's like, I don't care if I come across in a Naruto spoiler, obviously, but I'm not going to go look it up because I'm like, what if someday I actually, you know, I'm watching that anime who saw every single character was the worst character we've ever seen. There's a girl made out of post-its. Other powers are stupid.

There's a girl made out of post-its. Everyone is terrible. And it's just all of those guys suck. It is. It is. But it's just like, now it's like, oh, I was watching Naruto and I was actually like, yeah, this is really interesting. It's cause like Bruce Lee was fighting Sand Guy.

Yeah, exactly. Interesting, quote-unquote. After 10 years of hearing about the fucking Fourth of Kage, I'm like, I want to know what this dude is. Oh, it's going to end soon. Anyway. And the characters are so stupid because Naruto has been going on for like 14 years. Yeah.

So it's like, you run out of interesting things. I used to tell people about it by saying it's like they learned Dragon Balls lessons and they're not making the mistakes. And then they started to make them. And now they're well beyond the Boo Saga. Yeah, well beyond. And which is just a depressing thing to hear. Yeah.

And let's end that on an appropriate note. We got one in from Minty over here. Yeah. Wait, what? Minty. Oh, sorry. Oh, I thought that was a different person. No, no, no, no, no.

Yeah, okay, I figured you were thinking that. Otherwise known as Pechuli from Naruto Forums. Yeah. Come on. Hey, super best friends. I'm a long time fan and a moderator on one of the largest Naruto Forums around. I bet he's... NarutoForums.com.

Can we get a woolly avatar pack for... Just wanted to let you know that nearly everyone on our staff mostly, and most of our community hates Naruto as much as you guys do. Yeah. Most of us are just forcing ourselves to read it because we made poor life decisions as teenagers. I want to see this through to... And yeah, you need to know.

I know exactly what that feels like. I know exactly what that feels like. There was a fair amount of comments on our video where people were like, yeah, it's really bad, but I'm reading it because I have to now. I figured you guys, especially Woolly, would enjoy knowing this, that a fan site dedicated to this series, the large majority of us realized it's complete shit. Yeah. We greatly look forward to the Naruto.

But there's so much of it on you now that you're like, no, I might as well just live here. I can't erase this whole thing of my life. When you reply to be a mod, you've got to see it through to the end, man. There's too many pictures of me wearing the headband. I can't walk this back. Got to put on the headband again. Everyone woolly wore it every day to work, man.

That's right. Yeah. I remember that. You guys would tell me every day. I can't believe you wore it again. The headband saga. Yep. I remember when you said that it was work compliance to also wear the headband and try

to force other people to wear it. Pat, Matt, and Liam, the Liars. Yeah, that's true. Everyone wore it. Live on camera. It's great. There's no cameras here. No cameras.

Can't see the lights. Or at least headband. Yeah. So, the site and the watch. Okay, so for the watch, I want to just jump into it with a thing I did this week because you mentioned Shadows of the Damned, worked on by Mr. Massimo Garini, who put out Murasaki Baby last week. Oh, I didn't know that.

You were way better at remembering who worked on what than any of us, like by a huge margin. Well, you guys are way better than me, dude. I can't. Like, American devs? I'm sorry. I forget names and stuff. Well, if he be, he may jazz jackrabbit. John Carmack made everything good.

Fucking studio names. I can't keep up. I'm sorry. So, Massimo Garini goes independent, makes Ovosonico, Ovosonico makes Murasaki Baby for the Vita. It's just like a journey in those kinds of games where you're meant to just fucking sit down and plow through it in a few hours, and it's the same thing. It's great for two hours, and then it's over.

It does not overstay it's welcome, it has tons of mechanics that it's constantly flipping out of every 20 minutes, really charming, like a few really gripping emotional high points, and then it's over. I love having those. And it's good. It's great. It's just really good. If you like good games, Murasaki Baby.

Sounds good. On the watch. I talked about it a little bit earlier, a bit like TJ Combo officially comes out like today for early access, so I'm just going to be messing around with him and try to go online and just play around with all the characters on their new moves. I was going to say Orchid to me is the one that's changed the most. Well, Fulgore too, because Fulgore, if you read about how he doesn't even have to charge his meter anymore, he gains it all, so I'm going to be fooling around with all that this

week, I think. I am going to be watching a couple things. The first is my pure later tracking number, because I've been checking it the whole podcast. I want that fucking video card. So you could play Crisis. Once the video card gets here, I'll be checking out Shadowplay, the Nvidia recording thing, because that looks really interesting. I'm going to be playing more Wasteland 2.

I was going to put Dark Souls 2's newest DLC on the watch, but it's been delayed. Oh really? No kidding. Yeah, they must have found some horrible bugs because it got randomly suddenly delayed by a week. I'll just be playing old PC games at faster frame rates, and I'll be fucking with that video card like probably all day, every day, because it's got dynamic, super sampling. Whoa.

I'm putting the entire nation state of Nippon on the watch. Oh yeah, because I will be there next week. It will be with your eye, with your eyeball right there. On the ground. What's up motherfuckers? I'm also putting the co-optional podcast on the watch because I'm going to be on it tomorrow. Today.

Today. It's recorded today. Yeah, exactly. So I'm going to be doing that and related things, because you're good at this networking. Well, once you do that, they all fucking connect. So from that same string of threads, we're also going to have Max on the podcast. Yeah. And Benny, do we get Benny?

Benny's coming along to the ride. Max is going to be the... First I'm concerned, Max, is just a Benny delivery system on our podcast. So that's going to happen at a future date. We will announce exactly when. Probably when you're in Japan, Pat. Oh. Yeah.

So... Is this the hidden ploy to replace me with Max? It was hidden. Okay. Yeah. Well... He's got a cute dog. You imply this wasn't on the table in front of your face.

If you replace me with Max, can I come over and pet Benny? Yes, you can. I'm good with it. All right. And that also led to... I have a long gestating project with Max that we just haven't had time that involves like something we just talked about. I can't...

Sure. And then that was followed up by like at Daigo's AMA, where everyone keeps bumping the stupid question about me, like, hey, do you remember fighting the scrub wooly? And Zee's reading off the AMAs at TGS on the Street Fighter on the Mad Cat stream, like, why does wooly matter? Like, why? Is this so highly named his own stupid notoriety? That's why.

Because at EVO, he's a relatively unknown, but he has this whole other fan base that will constantly bombard. So it finally... He finally goes, all right, Daigo, look. Off the question. Do you remember this fan match that happened in 2012 or whatever? And Daigo was like, vaguely sort of? I slightly remembered, yeah.

And then he writes the answer in and then it's like, oh, Daigo says. I would like a rematch sometime. So I was like, aw, shit. So here's the point. You know how to fight evil Ryu. You're way worse now at Street Fighter than you've ever been. You've totally fallen off the practice wagon. Did you not see me post the Rocky video?

Yeah, I did. It was good. That means I'm better now. That's good times. Because of the montage. See? You're going to get blown up. If it even happens.

If it even happens. To be fair, Daigo is worse now than he's ever been. It's true. I don't think he's worse. I think everyone's better. Yeah. Yeah. The info is out there.

But not woolly. And then Slow Beef replied in that same thread and just went cough. And I was like, oh, fuck. Oh, shit. Dude, you totally called me out. We never did the alien soldier race. Oh, it's true. Yeah, so I'm like, goddammit, you're super right.

So we're going to do a live thing of me versus Slow Beef in Alien Soldier. And I'm going to eat it horribly. Are you? Are you? Probably. Who initiated the challenge? Slow Beef. You're done.

You are dead. Yeah. Like, whoever initiates a challenge like that, they know there's no way. They do it. They do it. Absolutely. Yeah. So that's going to be it for me.

For me, Frozen Synapse Prime comes out tomorrow. I really like Frozen Synapse. So I'm very excited. Is that the game that automatically gave you bonus copies when you bought it on Steam? I don't know because I played through it and I was done with it. So I didn't really pay attention to that. I think that was. It automatically gave you two copies because they were like, yo, you need a friend to play

this. Either way, a really good tactics game. I'm really excited for the Prime version just because it's better. And on Friday, fucking Hyrule Warriors, I'm really excited for that. I hope, like, talking about connections, you met a very awesome screenwave guy, Fred. Yes, we did. Hopefully he might be able to get us some codes before Friday on that. Oh, have you been chit-chatting with him?

Yeah, I've been chit-chatting with him and hopefully we can get that a bit early, I don't know. Now that you've talked about playing off-screen play on the Wii gamepad through the room, do you think that'll work on the plane? No. Yeah. Nice. Then I will be playing Hyrule Warriors, too.

I did, um, as long as there's plugs, it'll work just fine. I played... You need plugs. I played Assassin's Creed III and Dark Siders II on the train to Toronto. No, no, no. I mean, I want to leave my Wii here and then take the gamepad and play it on the plane. Because that's what it's for. Dude, I can't even get the Wii.

I really wish... Considering the Vita can do that with the PS4, I really... Vita can do that! I really wish... You've got Wi-Fi. Yeah, I really wish I could do that. It's the most gimmicky fucking thing ever. Go through airport security, never have to stop being a dragon.

If there's a plug, you can bring it, though. Dragon, dragon. And it works in Japan because it's the same voltage. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Rock that, drag it. You can do it if you love it. Yeah, go to Japan and play Wii U. Whatever, it's got its transformer and everything.

Right. It works fine. Yeah, that's what you want to do. Uh, the site has videos. Yeah, we got videos on there. Wait, what? Is that what our website's about? Shit.

So if you guys haven't paid attention, we put up a Let's Watch Samurai Cup up like two days ago. Yeah. Boy, what a fucking mess. How's the editing going? It's a... It was... It was arduous.

Like, yeah, it's really fucked up and it's all over the place. It was so arduous that Pat was like, I don't think I can do this. And I went, okay, let me see if I can try it just before I started to try to do it myself. I'm like, I'm finished. That was like, oh, I was able to power through it and I was like, good job. But it sucks. Uh, like, just like, our video on our end stalled at some points and that made it like, we don't react as strongly to it as I would hope, so it's really hard to actually sync it back

up. I think I did it okay. I didn't see it. I didn't check it. But in the time where our video of us goofing around goes away and what happens? They're swimming in the pool and not much more. No, no, I mean like, what is the visual? It's just our voices.

It's just our voices. So when I was starting to do it, I was going to use, instead of our video, I was going to make up for the lost time by putting like that drunk, like TV operator from the Simpsons. Oh yeah. No, the movie continues reverts are stuff that we have to cut out. Yeah, no, but I was like- Just put that in. So yeah, the video disappears and then we come back and we're all throwing ice cream

sandwiches at our dicks. Okay, yeah. And I would describe the content of that and I was thinking about this. So there's two kinds of being drunk. There's the one syllable and then there's the two syllable. There's drunk and then there's drunk. Okay. And it's the latter.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the latter. People want like Patton Wooley's drunk race war corner. Exactly. That's the one that bled into the Dark Souls. That's right. The hangover was felt on the play through. That's correct.

So yeah, man. Oh, there's walking, lots more walking dead on its way. Guacamele should go up this week now that all the technical fuckups are out of the way. That Pokemon is already uploaded. I just need to make the page. Oh, if it does, then you're going to have to, I'm going to have to reschedule all of walking dead. Okay.

So maybe. So Guacamele will be next week then. Oh, will it? Yes. Well, all right. Also the panel, our panel from Montreal Comic Con should be also this week. Our goofing around at the con video is yesterday, but maybe this week we should have that too. And I wouldn't be surprised if Sweary made an appearance at some point in the near future.

Yeah, you would actually be surprised. You'd be surprised. Super unconfirmed, woolly is making rumors. Oh, okay. Yeah. Because we haven't decided what we're going to do with that yet. Yeah. Okay.

If you were to make another game. The Tumblr post made it sound like... We're going to light our feet on fire. The Tumblr post made it sound like, oh my God, yeah, yeah, yeah, get on this. Yeah, but that's what people were going to say. It depends. We're going to figure out what we're going to do and when, and what depends when the episodes come out.

To be clear, not the whole D4 is out for anyone who doesn't have an Xbox One. That's the basic deal. The following statement's made by woolly or not representative of the Zybatsuit. Don't you mean the prior statements? Whichever. Because that means whatever you say now is not, is not like applicable. So say something really bad. See you next week.