Castle Super Beast - SBFC 083: The Beard Doesn't Move Very Much, But When It Does, You'd Better Listen

Episode Date: March 10, 2015

Matt and Woolie return from PAX East, Liam returns from Mexico, and Pat  

So, we're at dinner, right? And then Stamper says, hey, can you imagine what things off the table do you think I've stolen? Can you tell? And I'm like, and I look at his jacket pocket and he's got three like big like salt and pepper shakers. And I go, salt and pepper shakers, oh, fuck, you got me, man. And I'm like, okay.

And he puts it down and he goes, but guess what, I stole more salt packets, sugar, all this shit. Look, I have all this silverware and then we, we, we, we, uh, John's trying to, everyone's trying to go through all the money and pay for the meal. We generously ship the really nice servers there. Hold on. And this is after, this is after a lot of drinks after a lot of drinks and Stamper kissing a man hard on the mouth to get him to leave the fan was around and he kind of hung around

a little bit. So he's like, all right, man, you need to go to bed. Here you go. Wham. And he was like, the only one that saw it and no one noticed it until we started laughing. He tucked him in and sent him on his way there. Yeah. He was like, he had star.

He was like dizzy. He was, uh, this is, I didn't think this is what it was. It was totally what I wanted. Amazing. And he's like, he's like, that's how you take care of a man. I'm like, you do it. We're walking out of the restaurant or like a block away and Stamper goes, do you think they'll miss me?

And pulls out a two old mother handfits of silverware, silverware in nice velvety napkins. And I just started going, why did you say no, but I'm not a kleptomaniac man. Because he can. You don't even need these. Do you know how much fucking food you can eat with your hands? Almost all of it. They're not going to miss this, whatever, man. And then in the most classic of like movie movies of people going to clubs and then the

cool people go in that you're with and then they get in and you're like, wait, but I'm Yeah, we're all rocking in the group, but John and Shane from digital gaming, they get through the door with like eight bouncers at the hotel and the doors lock behind them. And these dudes are like standing in front of us or like, uh, we're actually with them with them. And they're like, uh, they're like, no, no, you're not basically comes back and goes like, yeah, no, they're with us. It's all right.

And the guys were still all suspicious. And as we're walking through Stamper goes, Hey, man, here you go. And you're all the silverware to one of the random guards and I just start dry heaving with my laughter. I couldn't fucking believe it. But the important is it was still in the napkin, right? And she said, Hey, man, hold on to this. And he just handed him the napkin with the guy just taking kind of looking at it and

we just moved. And we're laughing at the fucking elevator. I'm like, this motherfucker is stealing things and pinning it on other people and then like two minutes. Like the guard goes, Hey, man, I don't want this. And then Stamper goes, Oh man, keep it's good. It's good. And he's like, no, here you go, sir.

And he goes, Oh, fuck a fine and takes back the silverware. And as we're going to the room, we didn't even want it. Yeah. Well, here's why. Because we're going down to the room and he starts dropping each individual like a trail of breadcrumbs down into the, like, what are you doing? And he's just like, silverware, fuck it. Yeah.

And he's walking, leaving a trail of silverware to find it. And then eventually I start feeling rummaging in my bag in pockets. And they turn around and this motherfucker is sneaking silverware into my shit. Did you get any in the end? God damn no. No. Okay, good. So we got like a hotel like manager guy because we were told to keep it down because we were

all. Yeah. That's about right. So we changed locations and found the room by following the trail. It was great. It was great. Yeah. So that, I asked you earlier before we started the podcast, Stamper gives me the impression

that the guy's like kind of coming apart at the seams and you're like, no, no, no, not in a bad way. No. And then you say, hold on. I'm going to tell you the story on the podcast. I figured it out because I talked to him a bunch during the dinner. I met up with him later, Willie Texas him. I feel that Stamper is constantly staring forward at no point in particular.

Yeah. And the world is rushing behind him at all times. And then he'll go, what, oh, do these lines Tom Fulp would ask. Then he records the lines and then he just stares and then the world rushes again. Yeah. And then they're like, hi, can you sign this? And he goes, oh, sure, kid, no problem. And then goes back to nothing.

Reckliam from a dream, it's shot of his face with the world behind him, moving at its own pace. Yeah, this seems about right to me. That's really like, he's the intro of Bojack Horseman. Exactly. Exactly. Oh yeah. Okay.

You know, and he's just fucking doing his thing and smooth McGroove is just silently chuckling in the background. Yeah. He's just like, oh, this guy. Tell me, McGroove doesn't talk much. He doesn't talk much. He didn't talk much. He didn't talk much.

This is what I want to hear. But he said he spoke in song. No. But what he did say was very nice and genuine. Yeah. He was like, you know what? Not a word wasted. The beard doesn't move very much, but when it does, you better listen.

You better listen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he's really going on the whole Jesus look thing. Oh man. So yeah, we're back from Boston, Senpai is back from Mexico. Oh, I didn't go nowhere. I didn't think I could get to Spanish. Did you not get any Spanish, Liam?

No. Nothing new. Nothing new. All I learned is from a legitimate Mexican person that the police are more corrupt than I could ever imagine. Oh, you didn't need, like, no, I knew. I knew. But like, I was there and I met up with Mexiflan on Twitter, and he was telling me how the

police will just stalk you for no reason and tell you you did a crime if you're a tourist and ask you for money on the spot. Sick. Yeah. And that's like. I appreciate that honesty. Yeah. Like straight out.

That's like the Cuban hustler that you guys ran into, Matt. You said the girl that was like at the taxi stand. Yeah. Oh, the guy who took the wallet. No, no, no. At the airport in Cuba, it was like we were leaving to go come home and we went on vacation there and this woman, like, we're just like security guards go, no, you have to go over there.

Go over there. Okay, sure. And like, you know, yeah, you have guns, so we're going to do what you say. That's the rule. So we go over to this lady in a box and she's just like, okay, you money. Bring her hand out. Just doing the beckoning gesture. Yeah.

And then there's like a fee fee and there's we read a science is something about international fee, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I like, like $25 and I'm like, okay, I'm like, here, I guess she goes, no, $25. I'm like, you mean like 50? Like you want $50? That's what you need. We're both for both of you. And I'm like, all right, here you go.

And she does it one more time. And I'm like, this is the ultimate hustle. I'm like, I have no recourse. I'm getting hustled. But there's nothing I can do. I'm told my hand stops beckoning. I'm told my hand is satisfied. Yeah.

And her head, she's like, these fucking tourists. So anything you want to talk about Mexico, but ends on what your gift is because we'll even see it. Yeah. No, absolutely. And give me, give him. Do you want to grab it so he can see it? I just did.

Oh, you did. Okay. I'm so happy that I was able to guess what the gift was by your conversation. So I didn't do a lot on this trip. I just like lounged on the beach, which is like unusual. Usually when I go on a vacation, like I go in a city and I go to museums and shakes. That's what I like to do. You do cool stuff.

But this was like, yeah, okay, let's just hang on the beach. But we did at some point go to a, we went to Chichen Itza, which is like, it's really shit. You know, if you played one of the assassin's creeds, you get to go there. Do you ever played a sip, you'd know what the Chichen Itza is? Yeah, exactly. And they were really cool. And then in the tourist shop, I wasn't planning on buying gifts for anyone, but a gift for

Matt just fell onto my lap from the sky. And I said, oh, I need to get this and I go and I need to ask the story and I asked the story and the guy says, this is a replica of a battle that took place on the top of one of the ziggurats at Chichen Itza. And I was just like, oh my God, you're lying to your teeth as hard as you can. You were such a lot back room, didn't you, you ass? And so I bought this expensive trinket for Matt because even though he's not interested in Mexican culture, I felt like this was kind of up his alley if you want to pull it up.

He's probably still interested in sick battles at the top of a ziggurat. Everyone is. He thinks so, but I'm unwrapping. It's all on paper. I'm like, okay, Liam. And he gives me two packages. And I was like, and then Liam's like, they go together. They go together.

They go together. And I'm like, all right. And then I open it up and I just fucking get this historical battle. So what the fuck is a fucking predator choked, slamming an alien? It looks like it was carved out of bone. Ancient, ancient, fucking history. These are the two mayors of Mexico that were vying for control of the country long ago. The blood vote.

And you can take them off and be individual. And he's got his arm blade in the alien gut. Naturally, the Zeno's getting its shit owned. Yeah, well, Mexico would prefer the predator. So they had four or five alien versus predator plaster fakes just there. I was so shocked. I literally thought it was probably a cool little warrior guy with a spear or something. I had to set up the story in the shittiest way so you wouldn't expect anything.

It is. And I like how they're conjoined. In my head, there's only two ways for that story to go. It was either going to be Superman punching blank. It was going to be alien versus predator. Or it was going to be like Dio versus Joseph. But I think the important bit is that it's nothing Mexican. Oh yeah, it's true.

Yeah, that could happen. I could see that. But nothing Mexican. So that's the point there. The only other place I went to was I went to a cenote, which is like an underwater, an underground cave for swimming, basically. It can be boat. And so you walk down for like a minute and then you get to this huge cave under the earth.

And it's the clearest, most beautiful water ever. And I swam around there and was like, oh, I could drink this. And I was like, yeah, you could drink this because this is the water that's out. And it replenished all your HP. Yeah. It was awesome though. And no, you don't have to come up for air because the cave isn't filled with water. It's like a pool.

Oh, okay. But it's a cave. It was really, really nice. I didn't do any other Mexican stuff, but I don't want to see a fajita for like a month. Because every day was corn-based bread with meat. Oh, yeah. It's the same combination, just in different fucking orders. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah. I did bring some candies and cookies back from Mexico. You got some Oreo tech from Mexico, I see. Yeah, some of them were from Mexiflan. So he promised me that that's the good stuff. That's what kids grew up with. I was looking for candies and I couldn't fucking tell what was good and what was poison and what was drugs. Of course, of course.

So, you know, yeah. Albarino. The answer to that question, Liam, is yes. Yes, it's drugs. Now, am I looking at the ancient classic Mexican sushi package? Is that what I'm seeing from over here? No, this one that you're looking at? Yeah.

This is peanut marzipan. That's on me. So you know what marzipan is? I do. Barely. Here it's like almond-based. I've never seen peanut stuff before. I'm not a fan of marzipan.

It's different. Let me tell you that much. Hey, Mark. Damn it! That's one of these you can do. My brain was getting there. Here, Matt. So these are Della Rosa peanut marzipan.

Oh, he hit me with that. You gotta eat one too, Pat. Oh, what is it? I don't know. These things crumble like a motherfucker. It smells good. Okay, that's better than any other arpeggio. It's good, isn't it?

Yeah, that's better than most arpeggios. What are you going to do, Mark? That thing? That's actually really good. It's like a little block of peanut butter. You can keep these two if you want. Home sour is always my favorite. It's got the same consistency of the maple blocks.

Oh, no thanks. Yeah, like maple fudge. Maple fudge. It's got the same consistency. Are you not enjoying that, Pat? No thanks. Why don't you take another bite just to make sure? No, I'm good.

No. It's definitely marzipan, but the kind I've had has been way flakier and way worse tasting. You'll be forever my gal. Oh, I'm sorry. So the other thing he hands me, mini pulparinos. Oh, pulparinos? He's turned into a munch cast.

Hold on, hold on. This is hot and salted tamarind pulp candy. Oh my god, tamarind is the best. I am in there. So apparently these are real good. I'm all in. One shot. Let's go.

Let's get it. Yeah. That's pretty good. Yeah. Matt's not feeling it. Matt's not feeling it. Matt can taste the vegetable in this one. I'm going back to my peanut butter brick.

No, I grew up eating tamarind. Tamarind balls are the shit. You take it, it's a natural kind of candy. You just roll it in sugar and you're good to go. Do you want these? Yeah, basically. It's great. His next one is a Duvalin.

I don't fucking know. Nice. It's chocolate and vanilla. Oh, I know those. I don't want one. Thank you. No, thanks. You want one lot.

I know what they are. Why is it just goo? You know what? I'll eat the white part. Oh, there's little shovels. Yeah, I'll eat the white part and I'll skip the black part. Yeah. Here, I have a shovel.

That was free. Yeah. Pat, I didn't say nothing. I softballed it. I didn't say nothing. I'm disappointed. What are you talking about? He tells me these are good.

I'm disappointed. I'm willing to trust him. I bet you are. The problem is that it's not as soft as it looks. It's just like fudge. Yeah. That's good. That's pretty good.

But it's just fudge at the end of the day. Only the white part. I'm kind of soured after that tamarind. Well, you want to go for a third one? You want to go for a third softball because that was your second? I'm really just trying as hard as I can. Yeah, that's not good. You know what?

I'm way happier just letting the softballs just sit there uncaught. It's almost like they never should have let the white one and the black one get together and mix to make this. See? Now! Do Mexican kids like this? Now you work just wrapping off the Seinfeld cookie episode. It's like they just, they shouldn't put them together.

The black and white cookie. Yeah. Together. At last. It's perfect. For what? Brought back hazelnut Oreos. I don't know.

I'll skip on this. I'll try. You love hazelnut, will you? Breakfast is your favorite meal of the day. The closer it is to breakfast, the more Willy throws up in his mouth. No, we need the packet one. No, you just took all the Oreos. When I look at an Oreo and I don't see like a white cream in the middle or something like that,

I don't want one. I actually don't like that. I'll pass. You want one? No thanks. Alright. I'll pass. And let's go straight to the bottom.

What do you got there? What's that pink thing? That's not great. Oh. It's the same as the other one. It's the same as the Goop stuff. It's the Goop stuff, but it's the Goop. You want one?

No. Okay. I'm glad we've all made these. Is the dark part mixed in with the pink stuff? That's just compelling. Yep. It is. No.

Oh, they put it all into Napoleon 10. It's all three in Napoleon 10. No. No. And the last one. It's just Napoleon 10. That's what he said. That's correct.

What is that? Like the Japanese cartoon version of little Napoleon that's like a little girl. The last one. That's what my family said. That's what I drew up saying. Right. Now, this is... Your family's a bunch of weeboos.

This one is the special one. It's special or like exotic, but it's the one I'm most interested in because it's the most inception thing I've ever seen. What do you think a cookies and cream Oreo tastes like? That tastes delicious. These are cookies and cream flavored Oreos, which is like... Cookies and cream is essentially fucking Oreos. Yeah.

No. Cookies and cream has become its own flavor. Oh. Oh, no. So what do you think an Oreo flavored Oreo tastes like? A fucking Oreo. Dude, this is just the repackaged birthday cake ones. No, it's not.

No, it's not. No, because the birthday cake flavor has a more cakey feel. They're not exactly like the real cake. They're not birthday cake. I disagree. It tastes different. This tastes like cookies and cream chocolate. You don't know your Oreos.

I think I do. Hershey's cookies and cream chocolate put inside of an Oreo. You know what? These people were smart because they didn't go too heavy on the cream. Yeah. This cream is so much sweeter than the regular stuff. If it was like the regular thing, it would just be disgusting. Oh, where'd my water go?

Here it is. Thank you. Awesome. All right. So that's Mexican poison. That's Mexico for you in a nutshell. Oreos. Thank you.

I'm Mexican for the treats. So stick to the Oreos and the peanut stuff. Okay. Stick to the rivers and lakes that you're used to. Yeah. Don't go chasing waterfalls. Exactly. Other than that.

What? I found some time. I found a full five days to download a game on my Vita. Because it took that fucking long with the internet. Was it Criminal Girls II, the Criminaling? It wasn't. I downloaded Oreshka and Helldivers on my Vita. For some reason, I thought you were going to go with Criminal Girls II, Criminal Girls.

I don't know why. The actual correct joke to make here would be like Ultra Despair Criminals or something? Or something like that. Yeah. Fucking Japanese. Death Row. Fucking such garbage. But I played Death Row He-May, Criminal Girls II, Death Row He-May.

That's what we do. Go on. I played Helldivers. I think you'd like it a bit, Matt. It's like a mix between Destiny and Super Troopers. Like the movie? Yeah. Yeah.

So you play as an agent of the Helldivers, who's basically a soldier for Super Earth. It's totally Super Earth, by the way. It's totally Super Earth. And you go to different planets, killing the indigenous people, protecting their planets in order to instill democracy on the universe. Well, that's a novel goal. So you go democratize people by force. This is literally the Space Hillbillies show from GTA IV.

Yeah, I was going to say, every time there was one of those parody space captain shows where you go around being an asshole. But story-wise, that's fine. But isn't it just like an overhead tactical shooter thing? It's very good, though. It's by the guys who made Magica. Oh, okay. Yeah, it's really, really good.

So the second author says to me by the people who made that Ghost Recon game for the 3DS, the opening of Shadow Wars. Oh, Shadow Wars. Yeah, no, no. It's really good. There's tons and tons and tons of weapons. There's friendly fire on everything, including your turrets and stuff. It's tough as nails, but in a good way.

Not just enemies one-shot you, but there's a lot of thought put into this game. Cool. And if you like games with the depth of Magica, then you'll definitely get that out of here. I only play Magica a little briefly, so... Right. Yeah, no. The story sounds stupid enough, so that's good for me. Now, I can't help but notice you didn't mention that you took the shield down to Mexico.

What? The shield? You didn't bring it with you? I didn't bring it with me. You didn't bring it with you? So who took the shield with you? Wait, why would I have brought the shield with me? Because it's the shield!

So that you could have been ready for when they announced the Shield Console. Yeah, I watched that stream. That was the most glorious mess since the kunan. Dude, it's the same name! There's no difference of the name at all! Yeah, no, I know. And it's not even a great name for an electronic device. What excites me about that is the possibility that I can play Revengeance on my portable shield.

Because Revengeance is one of the games that they're playing. PC games, that's true. Not PC games. They're making it on Android. Okay. So I don't know, that's kind of cool. I don't know what this qualifies as anymore. I'm starting to get a little long in the tooth, but I played Oreshka.

It's really, really good. Go buy that. That's the one where your family's fucking cursed, right? Your family's cursed. You were explaining that to me. And they worked for years, and you have to keep going through generations of family. Okay, it was Freedom Wars, it was Oreshka, and there was a third one. What was the third?

So sacrifice Delta? Was it Delta? Yeah, okay. They all got announced. They're all out now. Yeah, exactly. That game's fucking good. It is 2JRPGs, as Skyrim is to WRPGs.

What? In that you just go at it and throw time at it. Okay, okay, that's gonna be cool. And stuff happens to you, and it's different from everyone else's experience. It's really deep, it's really good. Oh yeah, there's one cool feature I wanted to mention to you, Pat. Where at the beginning of the game, it presents you five different game modes. And they're split up by how long the game will be.

Okay. So how long will it be until you hit the credits? And the shortest one is 30 hours, and the longest is 100. Yeah. And the ways they do that... How does this present it to you? Well, it's just a menu selection, but the ways they do that is like the 100 hour one. Enemies drop 100% gold, 100% experience, they have 100% life, and time goes at regular pace.

Right, so this is the normal as design game. When you dump it all the way down to 30 hours, enemies drop 200% experience. Yeah, okay, okay. They have a little less life, and time goes really fast. The first game that I remember doing that, from Japan, that was probably a Golden, Persona 4 Golden, where they just said, Okay, for the difficulty modes, we're gonna have normal be normal, and everything else is just gonna be percentage modifiers on shit.

Yeah. And the fucking easy, easy mode is like guys are dropping 1000% gold and 1000% experience. I appreciate how they dropped a straight hour in your face and said, This will take you 30 ish hours, though. I'm getting a crazy intense sugar rush right now. From that point on, I was like, well, he seems to be retreating inside himself. No, yeah, no. What seems to be happening here?

Oh, right. That's weird. So that was my week in Mexico. Cool. A lot of good video games, a lot of good stuff. It was fun. It was a really calm vacation. We knew that much, but I really enjoyed it.

Outside of PAX, my week was nothing but just Gundam build fighters and preacher, whatever. They're great. I'm going through them. Are you on Shire? Not yet. Okay. Are you watching it just on their YouTube channel? Yeah.

Isn't that awesome how they just have them on YouTube? Yeah, Gundam Info. They're just like, well, watch it. I see them. They're getting like a million views each, and it's like, yeah, of course. It's a half an hour commercial for Gunpla. Why would you not make it free? Yeah, and they jam their own commercial in there.

Exactly. Why would you not make it free? It makes me feel like anime companies aren't distributing their anime in very good ways. Yeah. Yeah, maybe. Fucking what? Yeah, I know. What?

No, but buy this $500 Blu-ray. Or sometimes it's like the dub goes up on YouTube, and the sub is what you buy. How many fucking conversations do you and I have to have, Liam, about the anime industry just destroying itself? Just continuing to kill itself. In the face of profits dropping. And it's still not as bad as the Japanese prices, though. There's a deeper low that can be achieved. You know, I know.

AnaplexUSA, if I'm not mistaken, is just run at this Japanese prices. No way. I need you, Matt, to do it. Oh, I just ran away. Okay, well, I'll fill before we get into packs, or I'll start packs and Matt can jump in. AnaplexUSA prices the same to prevent reverse importing. Oh, I can fucking fill time for Matt. They fucking-

They price the same? They price match? To prevent reverse importing. So it's like you fucking, like, it's a Walmart thing where you're like, if you can present us with a more expensive release of this shit, we will match that price for you. Yeah. And bump it up. Yeah, exactly.

Fuck. Garbage. I want to point out that the phrase reverse importing means that you have completely failed your market. Yes. Yeah, exactly. If you fear reverse importing, you have completely destroyed your home market, and you have fucked up, and you need to drastically change everything about your business. Reverse importing should not be a viable tactic for anyone,

and should only be usable under a condition that your thing bombed and became super cheap at the impulse. Guess what? Everyone wants the same price. Fine. But if I'm in the region in which something was not manufactured, it makes logical sense that that product should cost more because they have to fucking ship it from wherever the fuck it is. Yeah.

If there's something so bad about your market, that the entire cost of shipping whatever on a boat or on a plane and extra work is just devoured by like a 100, 200% fucking margin. You have destroyed your industry. Oh, anime is so bad. And have possibly ruined the name of something that is cool. Yeah. Because this shit happens independent of the actual product.

Same thing with games when that happens too. Yeah. Like it fucking sucks. But yeah. Okay, so. So you guys went to PAX? Yeah. Apparently.

And I know we noticed you getting butt mad. Super butt mad. But I noticed you were in Mexico sending me messages going, I'm so butt mad right now. I am. Oh man. No. Well, it was a good time.

That makes any difference. Were you double angry at me for just choosing not to go? No, I wasn't. But yeah. Yeah, it was a good time. But it was also like, I describe it as a, as a, it reached a climax, but it started off a little. Friday was a fucking team GFB day.

Yeah. Friday was. Because everyone got fucked, boy. Yo, Friday was fucking like, we get, we get there after the goddamn thing is done anyway. Yeah. 6pm is when the doors are closing. Well, when the exhibitor hall.

Exhibitor hall. The big room closes. There's other stuff going on obviously, but. To try to actually make it to the fucking thing. We were in a hotel that was like a 10 minutes away by car. Yeah. We almost, almost missed our connecting flight. And we would tell you guys, we wouldn't tell you guys this if we did.

Yeah. But we did it and we clutched it out and it was super amazing. They are still cool. Good job guys. Just the text. Yes. At the last second it worked out. So we made our flight.

But then we're fucking trying to catch this shuttle over to the, to the goddamn hall. Okay. The path to shuttle. Describing this shuttle that comes every half hour. Who is, who is they? The doorman and the papers they print out in hand to you. Okay.

So you have documentation. That says there is a shuttle. However, not once, not once the entire weekend. Now I. We witnessed this mysterious. I think I saw an exhaust pipe and some smoke. Now. As it came as a left.

No. As, as we were like taxiing over to the thing just cause fuck it. And the doorman is just tweeting down any car that's willing to pick us up and go. The shuttle's not coming. We're going to pass. We're going to pass. We're going to pass. I'll get you the shuttle.

No problem man. No problem. How far was it? 10. 10 and a drive. 10 and a drive. 10 and a drive. Two miles.

Not great. You can drive that. You can drive that. No. No. Not. Boston was not magfest. So traffic.

Traffic on the, on the fucking road is bullshit, right? On that road. On both of which you must fight Frost Walrus. He is waiting on the bridge. Also the, the, the path to get there, everyone else is doing it. So you're, there's snow on one side, other people on the other side. It's just not, it's not a fun walk. Just fight them.

So like we basically created the lore that we're thinking. We're thinking that this shuttle is actually just the banner saga troop. Rolling down. Down the road. Maybe with like a mammoth in the front with a fucking dude with like a. Yeah, that was it. Yeah. And you just step in there.

And tattoos riding it forward. And you just march with them. And you join. And that's the best. That's your fucking shuttle through to PAX. On the way on that specific walk, we saw what I think, will he, will he contest it. What I think is the most evil looking building I have ever seen. Yes.

It was, it was pretty fucking sinister. It was a big box. And on the top were four spires on every corner with red dotting lights. There are no windows. There's no signs. No signs. I'm pretty sure evil is. Okay.

What color is the building? Beige. Beige 10, right? And I said, that's a fucking even built evil building. Make no mistake. But I saw two or three of them in Japan that were way more evil. Oh, that's shadow law HQ. You saw.

Okay. There's a shadow law HQ. Yeah. And then the actual Platinum HQ with the boss platform on it. This is the boss chat. The Boston chapter. This is where one of the six fingered hand lives. It's the most evil building I've seen in North America.

That's for sure. That's for sure. Like there was nothing going on. There was just smoke. And I'm assuming this is where they burned happiness. Right. And it gets exposed into the air. Someone's got to do it.

I mean, you know, they're burning tea. We're right next to a big sign. Like this is where the Boston tea party was fucking sick. So it's the sweat of eyes and tea. Yeah. We heard enough of that. Yeah. But no, Friday.

It's real. But it's way more muted in a Fargo kind of way. Apparently it used to be more real. But it depends. And you can hear it. Go listen to Mayor Menino, the old mayor of Boston talk. Yeah. And you fucking hear the most extreme words.

But apparently in like the last 60 years, that accent has like kind of died off. A little bit. A little bit. What's the other thing about Boston? Just watch the town. Sure. For example. Friday was starting off at a real low that dug into the like fucking zeros almost.

Because like we were supposed to like meet with cool people and stuff and things got canceled and it was all like, oh God, what's happening? But thankfully at some point after like sort of checking out the hall after it was empty because we got to just sort of see where our booths were going to be and stuff. And that was nice. This is a general description. We all went to Pax Prime and you guys recall that was a lot of escalators leading to different floors. That's correct.

That's pretty confusing. The giant booth for major third parties and like the console makers. The big indie floor. The entire thing. And then there was the indie floor. Yeah. This was one gigantic space with not with indie, Indies greatly outweighed third party majors like by huge, huge.

That makes sense considering the timeline of events. But it's all three is next on the list. But it's also the booth space. So let's say 60% of the floor was dedicated towards majors, 40% to Indies. There were easily three times as many Indies crammed into that space. And you're going to say 60% to silver dollar games. And then like a pretty significant error for the tabletop cards. Yeah, on the other side.

Exactly. A lot of cards. But the thing to keep in mind. The card sharks there. It kind of felt like there were more Indies than there were at Pax Prime. But that's if you forget about the top floor. I was going to say that the floor is really big. They just had another set of booths.

So yeah, really heavy indie focus on that. Did you play the Shovel Knight update? No, but we were hanging around there for a while. We played. We touched things. We'll get there. But Friday was pretty much like garbage until it was salvaged by like hanging out with the cool guys. Hanging out with Jon Tron and Stamper and all that.

Yeah. Smooga Groove. That's cool motherfucker. I like him. Would you say he is smooth? He's smooth. Yeah. Yeah.

Saturday was, of course, that's where we're like, okay, we got to make up for this shit. Yeah. We're down. Recover the pace, man. Yeah. This is our distance. Exactly. Our coaches in the corner are like, all right, guys.

I'd sacrifice Willie for more time and he'd do the same for me. Yeah. Friday, like coach was holding the towel, almost ready to throw it in, but didn't. Saturday, we're going to make up for it. And got in big, got in early. Pretty much. Yeah. We were able to look at the main exhibitor hall before we were able to get exhibitor badges.

We were able to, we had like maybe 20 minutes to just kind of look around and everything before. And it was like, we didn't see this at Pat's Prime because it was just everyone filtered in at the same time. But here it was like everyone was in giant holding cells. Like where they slaughter like cows. It felt like that. They had the killing floors.

The killing floors. Yeah, that's how it is. And then they open up and it's just this fucking migration. It's the Benwas are coming. So you literally hear the crowd getting hyped up, counting down. And like they're doing the fucking Urakai shield slam before they rush it. And then the enforcers that are lined up there are telling all the exhibitors that are getting in.

Get inside. Get inside. They're coming. And we were in that dead zone where we had to run into the nearest booth to avoid the rush. You will all fucking die if you stay here. The running of the bulls. It was fucking crazy.

The three booths just get trampled. Yeah, yeah. Oh, we had to repair it the next day. As far as stuff we got our hands on, the first thing we touched was Enter the Gungeon. Enter the Gungeon. Oh, I remember that. That is that game. We didn't spend a ton of time with it, but we both got one run on it.

And it was immediately like great. Yes. You play with a controller or something? Controller. Just we had one gun and we just did one thing. You entered the Gungeon. Entered the Gungeon and it feels yeah. Good.

You know. Where does it fall? Like Smash TV? Geometry Wars? Hyper Link Drifter with a gun. Can you shoot in all directions? No, it's Twin Stick. It's Twin Stick.

Yeah, but can you shoot in all directions? Yeah. Four. No, no. Like more than cardboard. When you enter a room, it's like here are the enemies. They're starting to rush you. But then there's like cool things I didn't know.

Like when I was in the game. You can flip tables over, which is really fun and weird in a 2D overhead. It creates walls. It creates a wall for you to hide behind. And you flip it over in whatever orientation you're facing. Right. It's like you can create vertical, horizontal, wherever it is. Is it anything like the shareware game Cyber Dogs from like 1995?

I remember that one, but I didn't play it. Don't remember that at all. No. I just want like someone out there. Someone out there listening through this is going to be like, oh my God, Cyber Dogs was awesome. And it was. All right.

Fuck you guys. You guys are lame. You don't know about Cyber Dogs. I don't. You don't know about Battlin' Babe. Yeah, that's right. Was that on the same kind of shareware it is? I think it was.

I don't know about Battlin'. Was the girl in red with the sword? No, no. It was a baby. Oh, okay. Then I'm thinking of something different. You don't know about Bio Menace. Or Battle Beast.

What's Battle Beast? That's the one with the Cyber Dog looking guy on the front. No, that's stupid. That was great. It was great. Get your Cyber Dog out of my Cyber Dogs. No, my Cyber Dogs. Legit.

I like it. It was named Cyber Dogs. I'm really looking forward to end of the dungeon though. Like this. That game looks good. That's to Dave who I've talked to on Twitter who works for... What's the name of their company? It's also really good too.

Did he enter the dungeon? Yeah. I'm not familiar with it. That's really good. Will he play a game at the Iron Galaxy booth that I didn't know about? Yeah, yeah. Gun Sport. Gun Sport?

Oh man. Gun Point. Gun Sport. Gun Point's the game that I put on my top 10 list. Yeah, yeah. Gun Sport. The title was High Tension Sporting Battle. Cool.

Or something like that. Did you secretly make this? I thought I did because what it seems to be is gun-based volleyball. Yes. So you have your spotter and you have your guy with a different type of gun from you. You can only hit the ball with your gun. And they're cool. You have different types of...

What does that mean? You can only hit the ball with your gun. You can only hit it with your gun and you shoot it. You shoot the ball and you own... You have different types of ammo, limited amounts of shots per gun. And cool cyber, like future versions of different countries. So Japan or cool cyberpunk Japanese football. Fair enough.

Yeah, yeah. And what was the other country? The African food? The Neo Swahili people. Neo Swahili people. Yeah, yeah. It was great. It was fucking cool.

And I don't know anything about... That's the first time I saw it. Like is Iron Galaxy's making it and there must be publishing it. Yeah, there are publishing it. They work on so many games. They get around. And... Well, they just saw that.

I just walked up like, yeah, I was fucking like, give me hands on this shit. And Liam, you might be interested because it is... The music is being done by the same person that did the music for Institutes of Rage 3. What? Yeah. No kidding. So that's cool. That's awesome.

Watching Liam's face go from stone still to like nothing. No, wait. It went from stone still to nothing to what? Like what was a fantastic experience? It was hard to control, but it's meant to be that difficult. Okay. Yeah. I was hoping you'd say you play it with Kinect or something.

No, no, no. Dodge role. That's the name of the answer of the gungeon guys. Dodge role. Dodge role. Yeah. The rolling mechanic in... That's dodge.

There's like... Paramount. You must always dodge role. I really hope all their games have a dodge role then. You roll over pits. Yeah. Cool. Like that's a new job.

As long as you don't get stuck on it. In the general, the guy was like, you can just roll over that. I'm like, are you just trying to make the guy even know it? You can roll over it. The rule. You can just... The rolling is jumping. I encountered a game that I flirted with the entire weekend, but never got to touch.

Oh, man. Yeah, I know. Fuck, does it look like my jam? Which game? Dreadnaught. I totally heard of this. Yo, this fucking game, Dreadnaught looks so cool. It is basically a...

You control the Nostromo. Okay. Do you want to go to Nostromo, or do you want fucking to be Harlock? Right. And just... I want to go to Nostromo, actually. Sure. But if you do either one...

They look like Nostromo. You're piloting a Dreadnaught class ship, and you're just fucking battling your way through different environments, whatever. I don't know what you're actually doing. Like, because when you say that, I'm thinking like a higher end FTL. It looks... It's tactical. You're not doing internal management.

Okay. It looks like it's all external commands and shit. Okay. We didn't get to play it, because we didn't. But I didn't get hands on it. But it looked fucking cool, and it's like... And I asked somebody that did it, so I was like, can you just make the ship that rams everyone and has no guns, and like, yeah, you can do that.

Yeah. That'll work. The blade gun. The blade gun. Yeah, it's still in beta now, but I mean, like, it's got the right name. I like the fit. I like the timing. I like that.

You know? I like the way the pants look when it's struck. I'm fucking... I'm flirting with this thing, so we'll see. Right, right. And a big, big display, too. People had shirts that they won. Of course.

Yeah. And really nice logo and stuff, too. Fucking that's... Also, just guess what? You are 50% complete in getting people interested, because the name of your game is there now. The best class of anything. So you've got Valhalla, which is cool. Valhalla is pretty awesome.

Got to go meet that guy and check out the game. You've got to play it out here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we... Because we talked about this a few podcasts ago. That was the bartending in space game that you might or may not recall. Mixing drinks. Mixing drinks and chatting people up.

Cyberpunk bartending action. And... That's what it's called. Yeah, no. And I... The first... The first impression I had of it was like, I'm enjoying this. It is definitely not a show-floor type of game, and then, like, you've got to sit and

read and talk and then mix the drink and get the result. Fucking do it. But do it, you know? And I'm like, this is something I'll have fun with in the privacy of my own home. So no one can see you. But yes, that was there. That was cool. There was also...

I heard Severed was there, but I'm getting conflicting reports now. Well, when we went over to the drink box booth and we didn't see Severed, we just saw Guacamele. Someone was playing Guacamele at the time, but it's like they could have had Severed, you know, later on. And the big TV that was showing stuff was showing Guacamele. That's weird, because Severed is a big deal for them. I'm surprised they're still showing Guacamele. Not sure.

But yeah, I then also got some hands-on time with Jotun, which you guys... Yeah, I played that, it's no joke. I don't know if you remember, that was the Viking-themed serve game. It's top-down and you play as a girl with an axe and you fight giant fucking Icelandic... Well, go on. Yeah, it's called Jotun. And I grabbed it, the guy could explain the controls, I'm like, okay. Did you win?

I got close, but I didn't. And I asked him, like, okay, are there other enemies in the games? He's like, yes, there are other jokes. I'm like, are those the only enemies in the game? He's like, yes, and I'm like, fucking thank you. That's what I want to hear. I only want to fight big guys. It is the battle against the fucking giants, and that's it.

And name of the game? Of course. The cool is, as you fight them, the stage starts changing and like, reacts and there's things that go on and there's just really nice animation happening, like everything I expected it to be. It was. The animation reminded me of Banner Saga in some ways. It's a bit similar, there's some overlap there. The art style as well with the sort of like light, almost not shaded look.

If you go down to IGDA, he's had multiple builds there and that's where I played it before. I played it like two weeks ago, so it's probably the same build. Yeah. The blue guy. Yeah, and it's very satisfying. It's like the heavy shot, like you can redirect it once you press the button, but you can't actually cancel it and you have to get the leverage. Yeah, and the fact that like, and the way you get into the, like you walk up to this circle

of ice blocks and you hit one and it slams it forward into a Jotun's like sleeping head basically, and then he breaks through the ice and you fight him. But it's cool because as you're fighting throughout the stage, like later on you've got the ice things that start popping up around you and I was like, oh yeah, here's that thing. He's like, yeah, you can hit those into him. And I was like, yes, because you taught me that by the way I entered this arena. Yeah. Game designing is like, thank you.

Yeah. And I was like, yes. So no, that was a fun game. They're in Montreal. Yeah. If you ever need to, if you ever need your fix. Oh yeah, we did. The guy said, the guy, didn't the guy say like, come on down.

No, no, that was the other guy. That was the other guy. But like, yeah. No, for, for, for anyone that was from Montreal, we kind of went, hey, we're in Montreal too. Here's your business card. Smoothie, smoothie, smoothie. And yeah, what you were thinking of. Compulsion.

Was compulsion games. We happy few. We happy few. So excited. I really liked contrast. So we went down there to check it out. And yeah. And those were huge.

One of the guys as well over at compulsion that was like, oh yeah, come back after six and we'll give you a little walkthrough of your check it out and stuff. I was happy to see one of my old friends from the QA days. No kidding. Yeah. That actually might have worked with you. So that is now working at compulsion. And like, it was like, hey, what do you do with your hair?

Yeah, really small world. Yeah. And we're just like, isn't it great to be out of QA? She's like, oh my God, yes. Right. Like moving on up in Montreal. I don't know. In some ways, I want to go back to the, I missed the crack of the whip.

I don't know. I missed the crack of the whip. I remember, I remember talking to you guys and I'd be like, hey, well, you won't play Third Strike and you were like, no, I have to work 120 hours this week. And I'm like, why? And your answer would be, I don't, I don't know. Because it's not a new build. And we already wrote everything, but they're telling us to crunch.

So fuck it. Or I have to wait for a build that never showed up. Yeah. Hope that pre-mastering guy woke up this Sunday. Oh no, he didn't. Guess we're all just going to sit here and play the old build and enter bugs and hope they're not already fixed. Oh, they're totally already fixed.

You didn't miss it. So, so we happy few. Yes. It's a cool, like it's a very, I get a bio shock sort of feel when you start out in this weird creepy dystopia thing going on. And it was interesting because like, yeah, I got out and I played around for a while and it's curious because like as I'm going through it, I'm seeing like people are walking around to these like little booths they have near throughout this dystopian sort of city.

And everyone's being happy and it's like almost like fuck you if you're not being happy. We have the right to just go fucking attack you. Yeah. You gotta be happy. And so I was like, oh, but let's go check out this booth. And you go into the booth and then it's like, you have a dispenser, pop your pill from the dispenser, down it, and now you're fucking on cloud nine. That'll keep you happy.

You're floating through the streets. You're like, yeah, cool. I'm like, oh, okay, that's interesting. And then 45 seconds later, your health starts dropping. Yeah. And you start going through withdrawals and everything is awful. You better get another pill in your mouth. Yeah.

And I fucking was like, oh my God. And I just started sprinting to the next booth like, oh, you know, and I was like laughing while this was happening with the headphones on. And the designer. She's a narc. Yeah. And the designer like kind of walks over to go, are you laughing at something? I was like, yeah, I didn't expect this will draw to be so fucking harsh.

He's like, have you tried taking two? And I was like, no. And I went for it. And you fuck, you just OD in the most blissful, happy way. Right. And you die of happiness almost. You just can't fucking handle it. It's nuts.

So then, you know, I was like, oh, wow, that's interesting. I played it a bit more. And then the guy came over and sat down, you know, and I was like, yeah, that's super interesting. I was like, okay. He's like, so like, what'd you think and stuff? And I was like, oh, well, I just kind of wasn't too sure where to go. I wanted to see if there's going to be another trigger of some kind.

But I kind of found my own way into someone's house and then went past the place I wasn't supposed to go. They didn't like it. They attacked me, whatever. But the pills thing, I was like, yeah, I guess. So I'm like, I'm guessing the flow of this game is kind of like, you've got to make your way through here while being addicted to this drug and then try to find your way off of it, perhaps, but survive for as long as possible.

I don't know what. Right. And the guy was like, no. No, man. You missed the point. We threw those pills in the weekend before we got here. That's super not what it was at all. These levels are sort of procedural.

And that's just the, that's really interesting, though. I was like, yeah, I thought the point was to fucking stay addicted to this. I don't know. That was the whole deal. A slight tweak completely changed the reception of what the game actually was. And he goes, hold on a second. And then he grabs a book and a notepad and he pulls up a chair and sits down. And he's like, okay, so what exactly did you mean?

I was like, yeah, like you're, and we just talked about that idea. He's like, that's super interesting. That's almost like, that could be something for perhaps, I don't know, something else in the game or whatever. That's cool. So talking about it and taking feedback. Good job ruining their game. I think that's a great example of an indie going to a con and then getting really worthwhile

feedback. Other than, yeah, your game sucks or yeah, it's funny. Yeah, you go down and then a person just walks away. Yeah. You go down to the call duty booth and you're like, man, I think these guys should have jet packs. I don't know, man. They just paid me to be here.

Yeah. Right, right, right. We got to try Splatoon. Yeah. We got ahead of the giant line on Sunday. We got to play like it had eight, eight multiplayer set up. And this is probably the greatest demo I've ever seen on a show floor because that's quite a fucking statement.

Well, here, here's why it is multiplayer only one mode. It locks you into a two minute tutorial that once that two minutes is over, it doesn't matter. It's going to go to the match. So if you complete all the parts of the tutorial, then you just walk around and you're by yourself. It was the exact same setup as the sunset overdrive booth, but way more efficient. Oh, okay. Yeah. They would bring everyone in like, all right, now you wind up behind the person that's currently

in front of you and as soon as they get booted out and it's one of two matches. And it was turf war, which is just splattering on the ground, not on the walls, which was interesting. Yeah. They say it only counts on the ground. Yeah. So you can see it on the map. Yeah.

So you can see on the map. And then like very in short order, I was just like, oh, this is immediately super fun to just shoot and walk around. And when you die and it's like, there's a team of four, right? So we're saying like a strategy is, all right, you two focus on killing other players because that is a seven second delay of when they have to respond. Or no ink is being splattered by their team and you two work on splattering. So blaze a trail and like cover the ground as much as possible.

And as soon as you respawn and then you're like, and I'm tapping on the gamepad furiously because I want to warp to the next where the battle is taking place. You can go anywhere in your culture, right? You can go anywhere with wherever your color is splattered. So I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then the animation of doing it, like I've seen it before, but seeing it in front of my face, I was just like, oh my God, that's so much fun. And the coolest moment, I think I was telling Willie that someone was behind me.

Someone teammate. Yeah. You know that section where there's like a glass floor that your squid form can't go into? Yeah. I was, I was as a squid, I was just going into it. I was going to jump and my teammate was shooting ink in front of me and that was bridging my, I wasn't doing it. Landing in it at the right moment.

Cool unintentional co-op mechanic. And I was like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I'm being a squid. Make a path quick. And then you're landing in it. Yeah, this sounds like it actually has like a lot of potential. Much, much faster than if you were sitting there splattering your stuff. Like the original demo, it was the mode that Matt seemed to have been talking about in which

like killing people did like the original, very original show. It didn't seem like you could kill other players. Yeah. And that totally soured me on the whole thing. Me too. I was telling someone, it was like, oh, it seems like, you know, neat and fun, I guess. But then it's like every month or so that Twitter account says, here's this giant single player shit.

Here's all this customization. There's a giant hard world. Here's this thing that you thought about the game that was actually completely wrong. Yeah. The coolest thing that took me by surprise was basically, I was a bit worried about how the aiming while running around thing was going to feel. You know, I'm going to have moments of having to like turn the screen way on an awkward angle or anything, but you've got your quick resetter button.

And you just in like about a minute, you learn how to work those two together. Yeah. And keep this, keep it locked behind you. Well, the right stick still works to run around. Yeah. But you just use it to recenter everything and then when you want to just be accurate, that's the only time you're tilted. That's what a lot of Vita shooters do is they have that for like, when you're aiming, you

get pinpoint accuracy. And it's so good. That exchange is fantastic. Also, just visually, like the game is like a high watermark on the Wii U already for me. Like, when I was looking out, like this looks a lot like Sunset Overdrive or Mirror's Edge in the way that it's bright primary colors on primarily whitish buildings. Yeah. And just it ran really, really well too.

Like I didn't see any like performance issues with like a clear multiplayer. It was fun watching the guys before us play. Was it online or? Like, yeah. I'm trying to figure it out. I think that game is online. We were playing online. We were playing online.

Yeah, for sure. The delay between the players joining the session was there. It was slight, but it was there. The cool, the funny thing was watching the people before us go up and like the guy that was right in front of me, like he was on the team that was just rushing forward, just shooting the other team as much as possible, not even covering their own aim. Just shooting. And they fucking lost.

They fucking lost. Like, yeah. Okay. So like that, that is okay. That's the best. Yeah. That's the absolute best. Because every fucking, like Battlefield has been ruined by its own popularity.

Like you remember back in the day, Battlefield was really good. Like Battlefield 942. Ever since like everything after Bad Company 2 when the series actually got popular. Like it used to be like, hey, if the whole team played their class and did the squad stuff, you would decimate the other team of 32 that didn't, right? The problem is, is that when you are the one squad that plays their class and the other 50 people in the fucking match are just calling duty. Yeah.

And like there's no escape from that shit. That shit like transcends to every genre with guns. Yeah. I was like, I was playing Helldivers online and there's people who will just stand there and keep fighting. But standing still in that game is suicide. The difference between playing it correctly and not has to be extreme. Yeah.

It has to be victory or loss. It has to be, no, but it can be victory or loss. It has to be like obvious victory. Okay. It has to be the point where people who play it wrong lose every match and they either leave or learn. Hmm. Well, leave and learn.

Yeah, leave and learn. Yeah, leave and learn. Yeah. Yeah. No, inviting to unruin your multiplayer. Unruin. Yeah. That was cool.

It was like, okay, no. You fucking, and like you look at the map at the end and you can see the area around their spawn point was unpainted. Oh, wow. You know what I mean? They just, they ran forward holding the trigger button. The first thing, when we start a match, the first thing Willie says is cover our entire base with ink now.

Now. Like that, that. Because some people are just not doing it. It's just how you were supposed to win. And it's like, it seems like common sense, but I guess not. No. So they were just like, get in, run, rush, hold the paint splatter to get what happens to be in front of you, but kill the guy.

There is an intended guy shouting like, decent advice. Like, hey, everyone, you're losing. As much as you can. Cover the floors. Yeah. Any cover of mine? People, walls do not count. Yeah.

And you give one or two tips. Like the tutorial doesn't tell you this, but like when you're like, if you go, you refill your ink, you're reloaded by being a squid inside your own color, but it reloads faster if you're moving. Yeah. Okay. So you drop in and wait. Like you drop in, stew a spiral, and then drop, jump the fuck out.

You know? And so like, there's little things like that. They're like, oh, wow, that reveals twice as fast. The one thing I actually was like, oh, that's, that could be better presented is that when you've inked up a lot, you, I always miss the prompt of getting that super weapon by clicking in the stick. Oh. Just the prompt was just kind of hidden.

The game is so busy visually, like I've been like, take me a while to go, oh, there's a thing there. That's one thing. I got the weapon. Like, yeah, but I noticed that the, the super weapon is no good for actually filling paint. It's actually really, it's better at killing. Oh yeah. It's a tornado gun that shoots a straight line of ink that goes straight out.

Okay. But like, you can't splatter the immediate area as nice because of the cooldown. So you shoot like a laser tornado shot straight out. But like a tornado? Tornado. Well, is it like the Tanigashima? Metal Gear Solid 4? It's like a Hurricane Upper.

Okay. So you shoot straight forward? It's like an ink tornado. And it drops, and it creates a line of ink on the ground, but you have a cooldown on that shot. And then you turn around and you keep shooting again. And you don't run out of ink. That's probably better for killing people because you only get it for like 20 seconds.

Or so. And like, you never have to reload. So that's cool. But it's creating a bunch of straight lines, whereas it's much more efficient to splotch the ground. Yeah. So that's really nice. That's the thing.

That they actually, they didn't just make it like a power, like a rocket launcher power weapon. No. They altered it type of shot, but you earn it temporarily. And that's like the thing where it's like you play and you're like, this is fun and it's good, but it's like, now all you need to do is add the content, add different weapons and customizations. Yeah.

And please, please, the make or break for Splatoon is the online systems. Is it going to have lobbies? Is it going to have a decent online setup? Well, we couldn't tell because we were just in a match. Is there going to be a button inside the match to add people to your friends list? Is there going to be a button inside it that mutes people? Will it be the modern day shooter layout for online or will it be Nintendo's old scared of online graphics?

Oh, God damn it. And that's the make or break. Yeah. Because the game itself is there. I'm not going to front. I just want to play the single player campaign. Me too. So I'm excited for that and customizing my Squid Girl.

Fair enough. Yeah. Yeah. I want to customize it. Because so many of those look like wooly. Yeah. Like with and like along the colors. Now that you guys have actually gotten hands on time with it, you have like a leg up as

artists on the ballooning Splatoon porn market. Believe me, there are a couple of people on those lines that already have Splatoon merchandise that doesn't exist. Wow, you look super mad when I brought that up. You look fucking pissed. They're classic designs. I'm glad to hear that they're probably getting amiibos. I'm glad to hear that they're, you know, they fit right in with the family.

That's really cool. But it means everything. You fit in with the family. That doesn't it? Like, they're being tons of porn. The question is, are they going to fit in like what's her face from the new Animal Crossing? The dog girl. What's her name?

Isabelle. Isabelle. Are they going to fit in like Isabelle or are they going to fit in like Chibi Robo? Oh, that's the question, right? Oh, no. He's trying to operate his gun with his box. Yeah. Jared Little Mac.

How do you shoot in with your box? Yeah. Any character in Captain Rainbow is what I'm talking about, right? Are they going to be the headliners for the sequel? Oh, you would be a good fit? No. You would be a good fit? One of the girls from Fatal Frame 5 and all that is about getting wet and getting like

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Thank you, pinnacle achievers of mankind's greatness. Thank you for everything. We also managed to take a look at the Playism booth. And we had some fun over there. Yeah, some interesting stuff there. One game, I'm sure Liam has probably heard of it, but that RPG one that you created, seems like Liam made it. Yeah.

It is. Liam, did you secretly make a game and put it at PAX? It's not out yet. And will he's viciously trying to remember what the title is? It was called like a hero's quest or... Vicious remembrance. Oh, this is terrible. I forgot.

It was called like a hero's quest or a hero's tale. But the gist of it is that... There's so many windows in front of you. And you cannot get this game's title. The gist of it is that... It was like a top-down dragon quest. Yeah. Final Fantasy one.

Okay. You know, kind of thing. It's an old school. And you are trying to basically make your way through this castle that you start in. Get your items. Do all your RPG things. One-way heroics. Is that the one?

I'm looking at your screen right now. Yes. One-way heroics. That's the one. See, I told you. And you are basically trying to make your way through this thing. Every action you take, including a step on the ground, makes the screen automatically scroll once to the right.

And there's a fog. And then death. A death fog. And so if you talk to this NPC... You're wasting time. Yes. So you got to make sure that going up or going down, you got to decide who you want to talk to.

Because they're getting obliterated. Because they're not coming with you. The world ceases to exist outside of the screen. Whenever I see this game, I just think half minute hero. And I want to talk to the guy. Do I own this game? I want to talk to the guy. Steam already?

I doubt it. No. It reminded me a lot of half minute heroes. Were you inspired by half minute hero? And if he says no, I'll say fuck you. I bet you've never seen Twin Peaks either. Right. Because it is a fusion of half minute hero and passage.

I don't know if you've ever got to try it. I've never played it. It's a super duper indie thing. Super duper indie. Super duper indie. Because it's one of those games. It's like the only goal is to just play it. Hey bro.

I don't know. The localization of this seemed really sharp too. It was like a good English translation with little in-jokes here and there. A guy that plays the movie told me about there are really benign animals on the map and you can spend time killing them and get some items. And their animals are absolutely harmless to you. There's a unicorn that you can kill. And we have this group.

I forget the name of the group. They're basically a medieval pita. And they will hunt you down if you kill enough of these rare animals. And they will always be after you. Why did you kill the last unicorn? Why would you do that? But I'm getting attacked by mangy rabbit dogs right now. And he's like, oh, those guys are fair game.

Yeah. They're like, yeah. It's only these rare super cool animals that we care about. But it's interesting because you have actions that you can take that are more costly than others. Right. So you can jump in the water or you can climb over a mountain tile. But they cost 15 turns instead of one.

So you hold the d-pad against them. A little progress bar goes. A little progress bar goes. There's going to take this many turns. We got some clutch moments where he was like sucking a wall and he's trying to break the wall. Because there was a house, right? And I ran into the house to go talk to the people.

And there was an NPC that I could get. But the front door of the house was on the side that got eliminated by the world. So I was like, what do I do? And he's like, you could break the walls. I was like, shit. So I joined up with the NPC and then I'm like slashing at the wall to eventually hack the door. And I finally do right as the world gets smaller.

That's awesome. There were moments like that. You also played that Xbox Live, originally Xbox Live Indie game Revolver 360. Revolver 360. This is a PS4 version of it. Yeah, I heard that was... Of Revolver. That's Japanese, isn't it?

Yeah. It's the shmup that you play. It plays like a classic horizontal shmup. But you hold RRL and then the whole screen rotates. And the world rotates. But the hit collision remains two dimensional. So that game... It's a goddamn fez, but a shmup.

With more than the cardinal directions. It's a smooth turn? Exactly. And you can stop at any point in between. You're in like a giant tunnel. The world is a giant tunnel and you just see it. Yes. And pressing R doesn't go 90 degrees.

It goes one degree. Oh my god. That's why it's 360. That sounds difficult to play. Yeah. So you get to the fucking boss waves where bullets... What am I saying? Bullet hell, tile patterns are coming at you and there is no exit point.

Except to rotate and turn it into a laser. Oh god, yeah. Because then it's just a straight line. Oh man. The game looked really gorgeous. That version of it. And you get one of those things that... It's almost like unique to shmups where I call it the Icaruga moment.

It's where your brain has to suddenly reprocess everything on screen and think differently in a fraction of a second. Yeah. Since we're at the Plays and Booth right before I forget, we have to give shout outs to Nyan who gave us like the whole sort of tour of their booth and explain all the games that we played there. The mechanics, yeah. But also I'd like...

He told us about like he goes regularly drinking with Swarri 65 in Japan and told us some cool stuff about Swarri 65 that we didn't know. And also just said, oh yeah, we're also having dinner with a guy that he mentioned. I forget the last name. But he goes, he was talking to his, you know, eating. And he just calmed her job. He's like, oh yeah, I created Terry Bogard. So that I can also understand.

And then they were just like... Drop the fork. Food in your mouth. When you mentioned that you were going to tell this story earlier, I went... Like just... Like how do you just drop that over dinner, you know? Like Swarri and this guy that he was mentioning, they said they all used to work at SNK. Exactly.

And all splintered off and did other stuff. Like if anyone ever said that to me, whether I'd be in Japan or talking to a Japanese man, I'd still be like, you are full of bullshit, sir. I know the chances are actually probably high that you did this thing, but I still don't believe you. And the other tidbit there is the little known fact that fucking Swarri is the designer planner and writer of the Last Blade and Last Blade 2 series. So I fucking lose my shit properly. You finally have a reason to care about Swarri.

If you didn't like Deadly Premonition. I didn't like Deadly Premonition. I have no beef with you for that's fine. Swarri's like, you like those shit games? But yeah. No, and it was fucking great, man. And it was just like, oh my god. I love my hero.

Well, you were telling me that it's like Garo, Third Strike, and Last Blade. These are like one of the couple of fighting games. I don't care if I can meet anyone that was involved with these games. I will go nuts for them. I don't care about meeting celebrity famous people. I don't care about getting things signed. I don't care about taking pictures. I'm not that kind of person.

Except for that. And that's it. I want to pick your brain person who made cool thing. What made you make the cool thing? More than cool thing. Pinnacle elite. Well, yeah. But you know what I'm saying here.

The things that you're going, it's actually probably what Liam said. He's like, oh, those forgettable things. Who cares? Yeah. It's like, it works like that. Exactly. You know? And it's just like, so, hey dude, like, the game's called Last Blade 2 in English.

But in Japanese, it's a fucking haiku. Was that you? He's like, yeah, that was me. It was great. It was super good. And we got to give some shout outs to the, okay, well, Sunday we did our signing. Yes. And people came by.

We had a great group of people. There's like over 100. And of course, PAX, we were almost told by PAX enforcer, oh, we didn't expect all these people. Of course not. Of course not. You always underestimate us. So they were like, yeah, we have to cap the line at 200. We didn't expect you.

Who are you? Who are you? Yeah. You have to cap the line at 200. And then, like, it sucked because, like, they cap the line. And then we see the people that, like, were cut, like, walking away. And then, like, Fem Zubaz, cool girl with dreads walks by. It goes like, hey, we just got capped.

And I'm like, you stay right there. Yeah, you'll come by when we're done. You don't move. This is a problem I will solve. So a shout out to a fan that brought over animation cells from Hajime no Ippo. Wait, how? Like, how? Just straight up.

He didn't explain. Reached into his bag. I went to their office and stole it. Usually it's contests. Contests and auctions is usually the way it goes. But here's Katagawa in one. And with his business suit and little business hat that he wears when he goes out. That's the best.

And here's Ippo right after he beats Sendoh in the ring. And it's on the ropes. He's jacked up. He's really fucking, yeah. So that was super cool. That was really cool. And the fan that, like, passed us the Geiver DVDs. Yeah, those Geiver DVDs.

And there was that guy that gave us the cool bits of art of, like, an amalgamation of us and all. We were, like, all in a blob of, like, all our different, like, Rage and Zubaz were there and Zack and all like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then the first official fan art of Sappo. Yeah, this is great. Watercolor.

This watercolor of Sappo. And I was just like, fuck yeah. Dude knows the deal. And also two separate fans. Somehow we get Sappo too, even though we have nothing to do. That was a joint venture between Yo Video and Zero Vespers question. Like, talk about stealing credit. And also shout out to the two fans that, me and Willie, because Sunday was really busy,

it was up until one. We hadn't eaten anything yet. And plus our dinner last night, the night previous, was shit. Wow. It was a bad dinner. Because of various stupid things. Like, this is such a name-dumb story that we're not even going to even touch it, because it was just stupid.

It was bad. It was bad. But there was all kinds of weird shit. Well, go on. Just ask Stamp or the Steele a new dinner for you. I wish! Two fans just said, here are Girl Scout cookies. Hey, Matt, five-finger discount.

He pulls out two handfuls of mashed potatoes. Huh? Huh? So the two separate fans- Wouldn't that be ten-finger stamper? Yeah! Two separate fans gave us two different boxes of Girl Scout cookies. Oh.

Well, you sure? I'm not interested in this. Well, you're like, yeah, they're delicious. No, but the way you said that implied that they purposely ignored you. No, I'm not. In fact, it's you, in fact, ignored them. It's fine. I don't do many stuff.

But it's super amazing. Yeah, because you're a fucking weirdo. And our friend Brandon from Screenwave, he's like, oh, God, I haven't eaten anything. Like, dude, you have reset. Yeah. He goes, what, did you get Girl Scout cookies? And he's like, yeah, he's like, sure, thanks. And then, like, ten minutes later, another fan just gave us an identical box.

And he's sitting there and writing what it happens. And he looks and he goes to one of his employees. He says, look at them. They're just raking now. They know these. Awesome cookies. That's great. It's cool to be like, we were sitting at the Screenwave booth with, like, a couple of

the guys at the time. Yeah. Pat the Enneas Pump. Pat the Enneas Pump was there. And my seat was right next to Vinesauce. Oh, you're kidding. Yeah. And I was like, oh, hey, I was actually checking out one of your videos last night.

What are the odds? He's like, yeah. The little business card exchange, smooth, smooth. And he was a pretty chill guy. That was fun. Also, Pat, try to imagine someone from the AVGN universe that I talked to at a pretty good length for like ten minutes. Any guesses?

There's the piece of shit. Ah. You mean shit pickle? Yeah. No. Yeah. Why would he bring shit pickle around? No.

It wasn't that. It was the person I talked to. God, I don't know anyone in the AVGN universe other than, like, James and Ultra Mega Death Christ and Mike. A real person. And Mike. Yeah. Okay.

Mike Matej. Yeah. Mike Matej is not the guy who plays the guitar? No. Mike Matej is the guy that dresses up as Bugs Bunny and James. Okay. So kind of Ultra Mega Death Christ. Yes.

Yes. It was his creation, whatever. I just wound up talking to him for, like, ten minutes about whatever. Dude, you know what you and James need to play on James and Mike Mondays? He goes, what? I go, it's a game that is called your game because all it is is monsters attacking you, night slashers. We play that on our channel.

Like, you know who the bosses are? And he's like, what? Everyone from Castlevania, Dracula, like the buggy, Frankenstein, everyone. He's like, really? He's like, what is this on? I'm like, it's like arcade. It's a weird PC thing. Yes, it's arcade only and you can play it on main.

He's like, oh, that fucking sucks because we don't like emulating games at all. We always want to get like... Clearly. These people are serious. Yeah. If we, if you guys ever want to play it, he's like, we would have to get like the cabinet. He's like, we're not going to do anything. He's like, no, that sounds really cool.

It's good that they're willing to stick to their guns, unlike us. One thing is that it was really funny and I started talking about it. When me and Matt did Castlevania, I brought the cartridge and then he had his Wii set, his Wii U set up and I was like, oh, I shouldn't take the cartridge out. I'll just embarrass myself. No, you would embarrass Matt. That's what would have happened. One funny thing that happened is that I was talking about, I got into talking about Max's biofix.

That's going to be harder and harder to explain over time. Then I just went to Bob and he's like, oh yeah, I know that game. Like, I think I might have rented it or whatever. All you need to say is we got it to the front page of Twitch. Yeah. He said that and he goes, yeah. What? What the fuck is Twitch?

Oh, wow. Okay. And I was like, there's a big Twitch booth. Is that where you just grab him by the shoulders and start shaking? And he's like, yeah, what the times, old man. No, he's like, what is Twitch? A bunch of where there's originals fall out. And I go, he goes, what is the...

That's all people are made of? He goes, I don't really like doing that because what if you screw up or what if you say something you don't mean or like you flub a word? Yeah, why? And I go, I guess that is the appeal. And he goes, yeah, I guess. And I was like, I think the appeal is that people really want to yell at other people playing video games and being able to change it.

Exactly. The interact. And he goes, yeah, okay. And that's the trade-off though, is that like, even though it's like... It's fun. There's more pressure because you, it's live. It's way easier because you have so many people to talk to while you're playing. Okay, like straight up, like Matt's completely right.

Like, well, we did Dark Souls 2, right? Yeah. But because it's a hard game, you have to record in advance because there were days you came over. You were there for three hours and we recorded one episode. Yeah. Right? So you need to stack it. Exactly.

Just in case, right? But that means every single piece of advice in the comments is like two weeks late. Yeah. But with Twitch, they can tell me that... They can see your failures right away. Completely wrong about that makes, like, immediately. Yeah. And they can tap out at hour seven if they feel like it.

They can tell you how to cheat your character's levels out quickly. Yeah. And we got to give a special shout out as well to, while we were doing the signing, like, we had, you know, there's like enforcers that walk around to do the whole thing. Yeah. Right? No, I don't want to talk about this. Talk about it.

Talk about it. Well, it doesn't matter. There's just one guy. There's a bunch of enforcers that, like, you know, they make the lines go and then whatever. We had one guy that was the enforcer and he was doing the exact opposite. Wait, what? This guy was fucking... What's he doing?

He was... His job became to slow the line down. And create problems. His job became, all right, so send the next person over for, like, the photo thing, whatever. Yeah. And the person, like, takes it with their friend. And then the guy's like, hey, a person that's holding. Do you want me to take another one of you guys?

Like, go there and what... He's like, oh, wait, hold on. You're doing this with Instagram. Do you want that with Instagram with Snapchat? Snapchat. Do you want me to use another app? Okay, no, wait, hold on. Let me find it.

Okay, just everything he was doing was just, hey, wait, I found a way to make this take longer. No. Okay, hold on, guys. There was a really nice Elizabeth cosplayer from Bioshock that came over. And she took a nice picture. Like, hey, thanks for coming. And then there was another girl that seemed like, you know, she might not even know who

we were. Yeah. And he goes, how about no both of you? Go into another picture. I got your picture. Right? And like... I'll take it for you.

And the girl's like, okay. And then... She's looking at the line going, is this all right? Because he's enjoying it. And we're like, yeah, okay, all right, you know. And then they move on type thing. And then no one shows up and we're looking at him. Yeah.

And he's like, okay, no way. We have to signal to him to... We're like, there's no one here. Like, it was unbelievable. So there's a moment where he did one of these things. And I... And Willie's on my left. And I look to Willie and Willie turns to me and he makes the most...

I am immediately displeased at everything that's happened. It was so real. He looks in one second. And I bust out laughing and everyone's staring at me like, I was fine. Because it's just like, yeah, dude, I totally know where you're headed at. And everyone's going, what's math laughing at? And then a bunch of fans come over and I'm still like... And thankfully the guy backed out into the tag zone.

And then at some point when we were looking, jumped out. And then big fucking cool guy, redhead guy jumped in and just flexed his muscles. I was like, you guys go, you guys go, you guys stop. Give me your camera in advance. Where's the camera? We're taking it while the sign... Your camera's slow. Yeah.

Speak this up. Let us thank you. Yes, do got in there. Dude, I wanted you and tells you to sign faster. Yeah. You want the guy that's going too far so that you can go, hey man, hey man. I'm gracious. Right?

Let's go. The other way is really hard. Exactly. You don't want to be fucking... Oh, dude. Yeah. We're the security guy. Hey, we got hurt in this thing.

I got police to beat and stab. Police, stupid shit. I would like to have that enforcer would actually go up and down the line and rough up the crowd a little bit. He pulls kids' hats off and he kind of knocks things out of their hands. Just to make us be like the good cops. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, what if I get like the enforcers around and we're just imagining like the rest of the weekend with him. And he's like, hey, this area is too like light on people.

Can you guys just crush in a bit more? Okay, we can't seem to... Okay, can you guys go out on the street and get hobos and fill the space? Things are moving. Fill the space. You just see an unplugging power cable. That guy was amazing. We got to enjoy the fucking expensive ass Boston.

I didn't realize that everything cost money on there. Everything cost money on there. Well, they also actually do inflate the prices because of the con. That probably would make sense. But like... Hey, there's tourists here. They don't know shit. But this is really bad.

Because it got to a point where we're just like leaving our room like fuck. I hope opening this door doesn't charge to my credit card. I hope the elevator doesn't require money. Right, and we're like, so we just started going off. The elevator? Yeah, and so we're just like imagine like you press the floor and it takes you there. But then the door opens and a mesh is in the way. And it's like you can see where you want to go.

Order slot. And you got to put in the bills, right? You put in like a 20 and then it goes and a red light flashes, but it keeps your money. Then it brings you back. And it's just like... And you got to put more back in here. Is this enough? And it kind of turns yellow like...

It's like they think like you're going to another college. I could go for some more. Do you really want to get to the floor you want? Fuck man. Fuck this. I'm taking the stairs. You open up and it's just like an empty shower. You know?

And yeah, like what is over there? We had a breakfast where we're like let's just... They go, oh, breakfast is served every day from 6 a.m. to 10 a.m. And every... Hotel breakfast. Yeah. Hotel breakfast. Every time we've gone to, we sit down, we pile food on our plates.

It's pretty decent. We leave. This thing, it's the same sort of thing. You walk up, there's the buffet. And a guy says, oh, there's a table over there. We sit down. We get like a moderate breakfast. We eat.

And then the guy goes, here you go. $51. Sick. Unbelievable. Is it per plate or per person? It was... I couldn't tell. It was...

There was one item on the bill. If you were seven people, it probably cost the same. Maybe. Maybe. But it was just like there you go, you know, like fucking... My girlfriend the other week was telling her she's never heard of hotels who charge for breakfast. And I was telling her like, yeah.

What? It happens. It happens. This is the first... The difference between room service and complimentary... Well, it's just breakfast. It's not complimentary at that point. We didn't order anything.

It was just a buffet with the same sort of stuff that I met at the hotel in Magnfest. And the guy didn't say anything. There was no sign. We just sat down. $51. It was like the first... This money story you're telling reminds me of when I was at Chichen Itza. And there's guys biking people around because it's a long walk.

And like it's quicker to take a bike cart thing all the way from one side to the other. And there was a guy at one end and he was saying, $70 pesos. $70 pesos. $7. $6. Oh yeah. And like no one was biting and he just kept yelling his price and it just kept getting a little bit cheaper.

Oh no. It was negotiating with yourself. It was really funny. That's the best. It was a weekend at first because like we... I'd never had my bag sniffed by a dog before. That was serious security at the front door. We get in that taxi.

Make sure to compliment the dog though. Of course. He's doing a good job. There were labs, right? Yeah. There was a black and beige one. That's cute. Those are the ones you pet as hard as you can.

The guys are handling the dogs. I wanted to pet the dog but I'd better be arrested on the spot for some reason. No, no. Why are you putting drugs in the dog? You'll be smelling himself. You don't compliment the dog. You compliment that baby that was on the plane when we got back. Okay.

So it was from Boston to Toronto? No, Toronto to you. Toronto to you all, I think. But it was like about our flight, right? So we get on this plane and it was a comm ride or whatever. Smooth sailing. After getting off the loudest fucking passenger flight we've ever had with just dude that wouldn't shut up next to us.

Okay. I thought you meant like the plane was physically left. No, no, no. We had a dude that just wouldn't shut up, right? He's talking to you. No, he's talking to his friend at Max. Like not even outdoor voice, like down the hallway outdoor voice. Right.

So me when I'm drunk. Yes. But on a plane. But also I can't hear the guy he's talking to. I can only hear this guy. That's because that guy is talking in a regular voice and this dude is shouting and I couldn't ever, I would only hear one side of a conversation. I think it's how embarrassed the other guy must have been.

So I'm like, everyone's kind of doing their glances and I'm reading preacher and then I'm like hearing this yelling in my ear and I have to try reading louder. It fucking sucks. God, I know exactly what you fucking mean. So the baby. So on the second flight, our connecting flight, the lights come on. Hey, you're welcome to Montreal, blah, blah, blah. And we get up and then a woman jumps up with a baby and then the baby cries a little bit.

Maybe cries for like five seconds. And we just go. He didn't know the baby on the plane. Promote that baby. Promote that baby. We're now an adult. That's a good plane baby, right? That is the best plane baby.

We cried more than the baby did. I shouted a couple of times. Some lady in front of us is chocolate. And I was like, that baby just like, like he can now wear suits, suits unlocked. Right. Amazing baby. And I was gonna say back in Boston, getting in the cab and we see the fucking TV screen in the back.

Yeah. All of them have TV screens. And they're just it's blasting music and shit at you. But in particular, it's blasting. It's blasting Kelly and Michael, which is, you know, Regis and the used to be the Regis. It used to be a Regis thing, but he's been replaced with Perd. Perd from Parks and Recreation. Right.

So Kelly and Perd and it seemed like that's the only thing. This is fucking with my brain right now. And the only thing that we'd seen was that with new kids on the block on stage the entire weekend. Yeah. Doing a slow lame dance. There's a slow lame dance with Perd and Kelly and they're just dancing, whatever. And they go, oh, this must have happened like previously this morning, recorded or whatever.

And this and this cab feed is looping it. And the second day we get into the cab and there's still dancing going. Oh, cool. They're just replaying this on loop. That's stupid. And we're staring at that. And then eventually. No, stop.

That's what's happening. We go and press the button. Fucking off. Off please. And then the final cab ride to go to the airport. I go, this is a live stream. They've been doing it the entire time. This isn't a loop.

It was counteracting programming to PAX. To PAX, yeah. It was just like every time we turned it on I was like, I want to see it one more time before we leave, I said, and then to come on. I was like, yeah. It was great. It was great. You go.

You go. So yeah, that's pretty much it. Everything else will be in the PAX video. Exactly. And with the last bit of the best thing worth mentioning is that the Black Otaku Council came together. I saw these photos. They came together.

I saw these photos and people were tweeting them at me because it's like, holy shit, Pat, you're so fucking short. Like, that was some people's takeaways from this shit. It's like, oh, Willie looks like a normal human here, but he's so big compared to you. How short are you really, you short, short bastard? We met up with Brennan Williams. Brennan is super tall. Great Black Otaku.

Cool guy, man. We talked wrestling. We should have him as a guest. Yeah, that'd be fun. Wasn't that guys playing some kind of game? Yeah, like basketball. Basketfoot or something? Hand egg.

Hand egg. Down over Jackson. He was really on point. He had some good observations about wrestling. It was a good time. It was a good time. And we took the picture with the three of us just standing in our contemplative, like, we're doing business pose.

And Max just replies, like, what is this? What's happening? And I just replied, the future. It was great. Of what? We don't know. We've never broken down what the Black Otaku Council actually decides. Don't worry about it.

And it's just you and Brennan Williams. No, no. It's me, it's Brennan Williams. It's me, it's Brennan Williams. It's Richie Branson, the rapper. It is MVP, the wrestler. Okay, hold on. Do Richie Branson and MVP know that they're part of this program?

Yes, they do. And they agree to it. And we just got a tweet from Hellpockets, KOF announcer and champ. That's just like, yo, I think I need to be in on this. And we're like, yeah, you do. That's a face. This needs to, like, this needs to coalesce with, like, a scary meetup at some point. Yo, get on board or get left behind.

There should be a high video. There should be a high video where all you get out of, like, escalades and stuff with glasses. And you all go into, like, a dark alley and there's, like, hardcore gangster rap, blaring, then just cut and go, well, I think Reese Say really is. And then, no, but it is you guys. The evolving into that. Criminal girls.

I like that. No, no, that's too much. I have to remember this conversation that we had with Brennan Williams and his two friends where we were talking about Japanese wrestling and Russell Kingdom 9 and all that stuff. And I go, I really like the Time Splitters, which is a group that has that thinly veiled back to the future gimmick where their name is, like, in the back. The same font. They come out with Marty McFly's jacket.

And then they go, Brennan's friends, one of them goes, you know that in the Russell Kingdom 9, like, PP review that JR did and everything, that show is actually five hours long. And I go, but the show is three hours long. They go, no, they cut out tons of stuff. They cut it the fuck out. Every single entrance on that show is the Rainmaker level entrance that goes on for five minutes each. And they cut them all out.

And I go, where can you find the uncut entrances? I'm sure somewhere. And they go, for the last Russell Kingdom, they drove the DeLorean into the arena. Out into the arena. Out into the arena. I was like, shut up. And they're like, yeah, no, all of them are like that. I'm like, that's nuts.

That's nuts. And they go, you know what I really like about the Time Splitters where they actually push the gimmick even further and they're able to fast forward the timekeeper that's keeping the time of the match and somehow win. They're like, oh, I'm about to punch you. And they're like, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. And they're like, yeah, yeah, we use our time powers. And then Brennan's friend just jumps on that and goes, you know, do you know what I really

like? Like Alex, Alex, Alex Riley, something like that. Alex, the white guy of Time Splitters. He's fighting in the ring. And then you have an identical looking dude. Like as close as you can get it and he runs into the match and stops it because he's the guy from the future. At the critical moment, he makes a save.

He pulls a fucking cable and stops himself from losing. Does a fucking time flip. I said, dude, like that's the best thing that ever happened. Like if you want to push wrestling gimmicks to the next level, you put yourself in from the future to save them. But Japan's not even thinking of the game. I would be so much more interested in WWE right now if they had a fucking like time travel storyline.

Like you need someone that has like a twin. But they don't know that. It's like in your debut. You just deal with the Bella twins like yes. Like someone's trying to go back in time and stop the attitude era from happening. It's so crazy. Like just let's stop the greatest moment of wrestling. They're going to the moment where like Austin drove the beer truck up to the ring and they're

like sealing all the beer out of the truck so that the moment is super flat. Kurt Angle can't get the milk truck out. He's got dowsy milk and it's just empty. He's like, oh, this failed. Who would do this to me? It's like that stupid time patrol shit in DBZ Zenoverse. Next level. I need to talk to Matthew or always stop your reviews and mention that to them.

That's so good. I hear you have an ear to the ground. Any word on time travel plot? Like that's how you do it. Like we're talking about like if cool things like CM Punk was a work and that's taking realistic shit and working into it. But it's like, no, like go the opposite. Go total fantasy.

What do you think like Undertaker and Dark Powers was it like you pulled that off? Pull off time travel. Don't have like a Paul Bearer dude. Have a doctor that has a time travel device. Shadow Batista. That cuts your promos with you. And like your end of the promos you walking into a portal and fucking fog and smoke. Like Batista's in the rain.

He's about to like punch out Daniel Bryan. And then Batista looks at his head and starts fading away. And he's like, no. And Daniel Bryan's like, yes, yes, yes. And he just have a puff of smoke and Batista's gone. And then like time man comes in and he's like, yeah, it was me. All I can think about now is that if you did it in near past, near future and did some extensive tapings with home shows, being alternates, you could actually do a time travel storyline. Oh my God.

Or we have to talk to Bazook Man. Anything to get that going, at least in video games form. That's so fucking good. Oh my God. Pat, how was your week? All right. The world just shatters and it's a mirror and behind it is RVD from the future. Everyone's wearing future fur into their eyes.

Like Ultron Armoury. Oh my God. It's like we're from the year 2016. Wait, I promised about it. Tell something about Dave Wang. Oh no. Tell it. We went to the killer exit panel and the panel they have like a Microsoft producer.

They have DJs. They have two testers. They're doing the job. It was like, oh fuck, Lang just not doing anything. Like actively doing nothing. He was sitting in the front row. He was sitting in the front row. Lang is being forced to do nothing.

To do the entire time and he's sitting there. And I have footage of him just sitting there and the subtitle would be Lang contributing nothing and doing even less. And the entire time it's like we unfortunately get to go to Paximania or whatever. And that's where these gigantic sticks with three to Dave Lang face. And it's like I'm trying to talk to someone to get one of those. It could be used in a bit. But we never saw, aside from that one time, Dan C. Lang anywhere. Because it's probably boozing it up with Gers.

And doing business possibly. Of course. Before afterwards. Shooting this shot the shit with D. James a little bit. That's always fine. And I got to squeeze in a little bit. How much of that conversation was the weapon lord though? All of it.

They got to squeeze in like that's not even a joke. I know. Because that's what it was like when we were at Hittowin' E3. We're in E3 and we're seeing Ryze. And Matt just keeps the weapon lord though. He's like I know. But we're talking about Ryze today. So we got to squeeze in a little question at the end of the Q&A section.

Of the KIPAA. Yeah, you know. I know but I'm sure you guys saw the video. But like, you know, Hisako, awesome. Her intro is sick. It was the sickest intro ever. She's a super interesting character. All in all, the panel was pretty good.

It was fun to watch. Yeah, we forgot to mention this. Yeah, it was fun to watch. Like they had like the little trailers of like Max doing the narration over it and stuff. I heard about that. Just super ghetto story reproductions, right? It was in engine story cut scenes. Like definitely better than what they have currently.

But like Max is definitely working within the budget that he has. Good job, Max. Yeah. I'll talk to Max like later about this. But he was asking me about this. Like what do you think? As I like, Max, you wrote the narrations and all that stuff. That's awesome.

But you can't just be your voice. They either have to take your voice and do modulation. Because you just sound like nice friendly Max. It's hard to get that away from your voice. Even when he's trying to be all... It doesn't have that. It doesn't have that chaos feeling. So if they can do some voice modulation because they asked everyone,

do you want to keep Max as the narrator? Sure. And it was like... That would be a cool thing for them. It was just demon voice them up. If you got demon voices up, you're friendly Max voice doesn't really work. I think the narration should be Ultra Tech Max.

Ultra Tech Max. Just computer horizon. So the one thing is, we're watching the demo of Hisako that was being put live on stage. And the whole time I'm thinking, oh man, Keats is probably going... Tearing his hair out. Because the demo that they showed for Hisako

went really rough. The combos were being dropped. They were not happening. There was a little bit of weight. You know that awkward weight when you're demoing and suddenly you're in a fighting game where they go? And also she can do a really cool thing. And the guy drops the input.

And the cool thing is not happening. Okay, well it looks pretty good. He's not reading my mind. We're not on the same page a little bit. So he throws the fireball out and he tries to dash under it. And fails. He fails the dash and gets hit by the fireball like three times in a row.

Which makes the dash worthless. And then within hours of Keats post out of video going, so here's some footage of Hisako and what she can really do. I saw that one. And it's like, you know, this was sitting rendered ready to fucking go. They knew they were going to fucking go.

There's something to be said about live demos. Sometimes it's not the best idea. Maybe. And it was also on a future build. Because her reka's had little flame effects on them. That worked on the live. But man, what a creepy ass awesome character. You should put the pre-recorded one out first

and then do the panel. Yeah, sure. Okay, so here's how. Do they want to do the pre-recorded one? I don't need exclusive for a little bit. Yeah, yeah. Fucking, like, Makoto mindfuckery type of character. But even more hardcore.

Right? Command grads. Every hits a counter hit. She can hold her doubles to like fuck the timing to manual time. And you are still locked in. Yeah. Exactly.

You're just a hit stunt for way longer. And it's combo breaker bait. So you can counter break off of it as well. Or do shit like, yeah, dash in or do her command grab so that it sucks you in, like a vortex thing. You press a panic button to hit her to stop the grab from hitting. And she automatically goes into her catch.

Because she can go into her catch from her moves. She's a high low. Yeah, with her wrath. Exactly, with her wrath state. And when she's an instinct, it doesn't matter high low. Get infinite, yeah. So winning with her is like, I am in your head. I own you.

You are destroyed by yourself. And I think, like, he said this long thing. Like, she works on fear. As long as you can burst through the fear barrier, you can take her down. Which is super cool. It's like Makoto and Geese Howard. Well, like combined.

Yeah. With a Seth teleport and a Seth grab you in. Yeah. Yeah, suck you in. Whatever. What a cool character. Yeah, Pat. Can I take a guess?

Because for the last hour and a half, you've been playing monster. So Willie's been giving me dirty looks the whole podcast. The whole podcast. The whole kind of stink guy. And originally, I was just going to do the one hunt during, like, the very beginning. And then he gave me the stink guy.

And it's like, well, fuck it. I'm going to see how long I can keep going. And during the entirety of Liam's... Because fuck you. During the entirety of Liam's Mexico talk, Pat was just hunting. I was hunting right up until my battery started to die about five minutes ago.

Because shut up, Willie. You don't understand. I didn't say anything. Well, your victory is in that he cannot play it on the way back home. That's okay. I'll just slow him down. I'll just stare at a blank screen.

I'll just read up drop rates on Kiraniko. I played a lot of Monster Hunter. But nobody wants to hear about that. So instead, I'll say, I'm done with Baldur's Gate. I beat it. I beat all of them. You're celebrating on Twitter. I finally beat all of them.

And I counted my steam hours over three, four months. It's been 130, which means that in the whole time I played these three games, I've spent less time on them than I have in the past month with Monster Hunter. Which was the moment that I was like, mmm, that's unhealthy. Mmm, I have a problem.

And your goal was to beat this before Pillars. Yeah, the goal was to beat this before Pillars. And I was worried that I wasn't going to do it. Dude, Throne of Baal is sure a ball. Throne of Baal is short. Like, that's a fucking old-timey expansion where it's like, once I got into it... Is it B-A-A-L?

B-H-A-A-L. And they constantly say it with voice acting. So it's like, I still make the mistake because of Diablo 2. Still. Well, Biblically it's Baal. Yeah, I know. But hey, they wanted to change it. But there are a couple of things about that expansion

that I missed. I didn't, like, games don't do this anymore. I was telling you about it, Woolly. Or if you beat the Baldur's Gate 2 with the expansion installed, you get the ending, and then you get no credits and just the opening cutscene of the expansion plays. And it starts you out on Chapter 8.

Like, it's just, no, there's just more games. They just don't do that anymore. That's cool. Yeah, and my reply was, glad to see that Azura's Wrath is holding on to the old tennis game design. That game is just like, go kill these five bosses. Like, literally.

Like, the plot is, there are five really tough guys. Take these guys out. No, go kill them. And the whole series has been building up to, like, hey man, at the end of the game, at the end of, like, even Baldur's Gate 1, they're like, you're the son of some evil god. You want to become an evil god or you want to not do it?

And every single fucking aspect of the main story revolves around this. To the point in Baldur's Gate 2, you accidentally turn into it and kill, like, half your party. And then you have to fucking use doors to block yourself off because you made your main character too strong and your own party can't win the fight against your own main character.

So you have to, yeah. And then you get to the end and they just flat out just give you the decision. But it's not actually giving you in a good or evil manner. They say, okay, you could go back to normal and the god will be dead, or you could become the god, but you won't necessarily be evil.

Right, okay. Which, the whole game, they're talking about how evil the old god is and how you're tainted and how you just want to murder people all the time. And then 10 minutes to go, a different guy shows up, different evil god shows up. I'm just as bad as he was. And I have his job now that he's dead.

You can take that job for me and not be a huge dick about it. Or you can go, it's like, I really appreciate, like the whole game's building up to a good or evil decision. And then at the very end, it's like, no, it has nothing to do with good or evil. It's just like, do you want to be normal? Or do you want to get all high-minded on shit?

That game shows off, throwing a ball shows off every single problem with the Infinity Engine games, like mechanically. Like, you know how I love haste in games? Yeah, of course. Okay, long-term buffs that are tied to an in-game time mechanic are the absolute goddamn worst thing in the world in a game that has a rest system.

Because every fight is hard enough that, okay, I beat these guys, right? Okay, there's the next room. Well, I'm gonna, I need to rest to get all my spells back. Okay, well, they knew that this was so part of the game that they give you a special dimension to go sleep, that you can't be random counter. You go there, you sleep.

Before you leave, you cast Protection from Evil 10 feet. You cast Iron Skins. You cast Two-Stone Skins. You cast Drop-Hon Holy Might. You cast Improved Invisibility. You know, you could just use the cheat engine to keep those on at all times. Hold on. You then run your spell trigger so that it has pierce-pierce breach

so that you can knock down enemy. Every fucking fight has four and a half minutes of pre-fight buffing in the entire fucking game. And near the end, I just stopped doing it because I didn't want to do it anymore. And I couldn't beat the fights. So I had to go right back to fucking doing it. Dude, like, literally, like a thousand times

I had you do this shit is so fucking infuriating. It makes me so happy that all these new games coming out, they don't have rest systems that you just rest and get all your spells back or have long pre-fight buffs. And you joke about the cheat. You were so mad at me that I used, like, the cheat engine to, like, move proficiencies around.

You mentioned this, like, four times in this podcast. The magic of Liam's snipe is that when he said that just now, if you weren't actually paying attention for a couple weeks, that could have been a sincere comment. But this motherfucker's shot is so on the fucking mark that the sarcasm was invisible. That's why his Mecha version has the sniper rifle. What is the problem here, man?

It's a single-player game that's, like, 15 years old. No problem. I just expect more from you. What do you mean expect more from me? There's no moral components. To be fair, I see a lot of people saying, why are you using that shit? That's stupid. Because it's faster. Hey, man!

I'll have to justify anything to anyone but yourself. Because I don't want to go grind at Watchers Keep again to get another extra couple levels or fucking whatever. You don't want to play the game. It's okay. This is building up to something. This is building up to something. Is that much different than buying levels and tails? It's completely different.

This is why you're cheating the amount of money. You didn't spend any money. Well, I mean, if you could buy levels and not spend money. Is this your action of doing that? Sure. If there was a button in the game that says add levels, I would be like, why not? When you get to the end of the game and you're actually like, I don't actually want to play the game anymore.

I just want to see the game now. Then, yeah, just hit the add levels button. So, Liam, the part about this that kind of bugs me is that you're so incensed. Oh, I'm just joshing. No, hold on, hold on, wait, wait, wait, wait. You seem so incensed over like just messing around with like Stato locations here and there,

but I would never go too crazy with it. But then I got to the end of the game. Oh, no. And the final boss is really hard. The final boss of Baldur's Gate 2, throwing a ball, is really hard. Right. So I said, I just said fuck it and pulled up the console

and hit control Y, which is the kill command on the final boss. And just, just did that. Just didn't fight Armstrong. I, like, really? Yeah. Like, I got to, no, I got to the end of the game and I fought the final boss four times

and I lost each time and I said, God damn it, I don't care enough to do this shit. You're fighting Sephiroth and you pause and you hit skip. Yeah, sure. Yeah, okay. Sure. But I don't care about the final boss.

I just want to see the end of the expansion. Yeah. But it's the final boss of the series. Well, shit. And this is the only enemy in the entire game I did this to. But I was like, yeah, fuck it. Fuck it.

I can't, like, in this fight. You were under a tongue constraint. You needed to beat this game. No, it's not even, it's just like, Baldur's death, they called out a trilogy or whatever. That's 129 hours at this point of this game that I played in, like, three months. And I beat Saravak, I beat Irenicus.

I don't care about this character. This character, the final boss of this game, like, the other two, it was a character you would run into and you would, like, you get to the end of the game, you're like, oh yeah, fuck that person, right? This one is a twist boss that goes, haha, it was me the whole time. And I go, yeah, I know.

And they're like, oh, I have the powers of the god. I'm like, I don't care. I just want to make the decision. It's kind of like defeating one of the three prime evils of Diablo and it's like this fourth, like a fourth one that nobody cares about like that much and he shows up at the end and you're like, I don't care about you.

Well, it's kind of like the perfect example would be Throne of Lord of Destruction expansion where you fought Baal. But like Diablo 2 ends with you defeated fucking Diablo. Good job. And then later it's like, oh, there's another guy extra. But it's less than that even. Like it's just, the Throne of Bald is just like unnecessary.

Unnecessary. Right, okay. Yeah? Fuck. Just, yeah, no, I cheated. I don't care. Well, as long as you got your personal expansion. I didn't hurt nobody.

No, you didn't. That's the thing that gets me. And you know what? It's fine because only you will know. Well, now everyone will know. But it only matters to you. Yeah, and I didn't care. Like you ever hit that point in a game

in which the choice is either I'm going to stop or I'm going to cheat? No, never. Never? Never. I fought Nix. I fought Nix. I fought Nix.

I lost. I spent another hour. I lost. I was underleveled. I went back. I leveled up and came back. I fought Nix. That's not, you can cheat.

I have never, I don't think that at all. No. But that's not, no. That's not what I'm talking about. But that decision process. Because that game, I totally agree. And that's what I, I never finished P3. But yeah, no, actually, no, I never finished P3

because I got fucking spoiled on the ending. But I'm not asking whether or not you love the boss and or you love like that. No, just wait a minute. Are we filthy sticking cheaters like you? The answer is no. We're not. That's cool.

Hey man, no, it's fine. That's not what I'm saying. Okay. P3 is a good example because you are not tired of P3 when you got to Nix, right? Right. I was pretty tired. You were?

That last month was pretty long because it was like, I know where this is going. I know what's happening. But I'm still just doing the cleanup. Yeah. Okay. Well, with BG, I like, I fucking got tired. Like, two of the five bosses in.

Right. And it was like, oh God, I know exactly what this game is. And that's the, that person right there is the final boss. And I could just try to, and it's, it's so obvious because it's a character that they, that never exists outside of dialogue. There's never a single part in the entire game that this character stands around.

And then they're standing around and I wonder why. And because if you, they were just standing around because you can attack anyone you want in those games, you would attack them and the whole fucking plot would just completely fall apart. Yeah. Yeah. And so I guess I'm a dirty sinking cheater then.

If we're playing an old PlayStation one fighting game, and it's like, do you walk five cool characters and beat the final boss? Final boss is pretty hard. You try a couple of times and it's like, you, there's a code to give yourself infinite health. Yeah. Would you then use that to beat the boss?

Here's, here's the way I see it. You use codes to unlock fighters, right? Yeah. Constantly, right? You can't till they life pack. Hold on, hold on. But you use codes to unlock fighters, right? All the time.

That's different though, right? In situations where we're sitting down trying to play the game, yeah. Yeah. Why didn't you unlock them legit? Pat, that's different. Because if I sit down at your chess set and you're missing the rooks,

I'm going to say, go fuck off until I can have a rook. How are we going to play the game? Also on my own, usually at my own home system, I do everything fine. I play my game. But if I come to your house so that we can have a night of playing games, let me get the rook.

Because my analogy here is that I use the cheat code to unlock the ending because that's all I wanted. No, we're trying to play the game at the house where my save is not there. Well, fuck it. We're doing the thing. I guess I just opposed that to like,

if I, for most games, I want to beat the final boss and be like, yeah, I did it. And at this point, I didn't give a shit. Yeah. I absolutely just didn't give a fuck at all. That attitude and making some noise. It's not about the salary.

It's all about reality. Look, I forgot the most hardcore fucking thing that's ever happened to me. Hey, we're just tossing. That room, that Matt didn't even enter in packs. You saw the room and then you were like, I got to go make a call on the way out. I walked by a room and it just says,

Steel Battalion Tournament. I walked in. I poked my head in, and I was like, I don't belong here. And I walked in. How do we get a tournament running with that many connects in the same room? Yeah.

And I see 16 motherfuckers. Damn. On the expansion, right? Hooked up. I don't know what, dude. Okay. But the second game is the most bad. 16 motherfuckers hooked up on this,

and I'm just like, oh my God. I heard a guy talking about the rules of the tournament, and he started talking. Three minutes later, he was then explaining all the rules. It took forever. And as he's explaining them, people were just going through their custom settings,

setting up their shit. And I'm just looking, and my eyes are glazing over, and then unglazing and reglazing again. And then I just slowly backed out of the room. I was like, that's all right. Matt, we can go now. Yeah.

Holy shit, man. Yeah, that's it. That's it. All right, all right, all right, all right. That is the most hardcore thing. That's really sick. Fuck. I was not ready.

You know what else, though? What? I am ready. Some news time? For some news. Oh, yeah, we did all of our weeks. It's time for some news. Hey, guys.

Like 10 seconds after we finished recording last week's podcast, news happened. What happened? Just what happened. A lot happened. Too much happened. I'll just go through all that. That's an order of chronology or an order of hype?

Because I like that. I like the order that he has put these things on in the docket in terms of importance. Yeah. So, hey, everybody, we received your messages. We've all been alerted. We know we can shout it from the mountaintops. One Punch Man is, in fact, a gang and anime adaptation.

I can't believe it. I'll be excited if the art is anywhere near as good as the manga. I can't wait to see it. So I will watch it and we will see. Don't be so negative. I can't wait to see the art. It's too good. I know.

It's still nice to see an anime. Unless they cut the manga into scissors pieces and South Park it, which is acceptable because it's One Punch Man. I'm excited for it. I'm excited for it. Don't worry about it. They're going to get the guys who do One Piece to split their time to make this thing and it'll be totally fine.

Yeah. Liam, can you emote the face you're making right now? Breathlessness. Dude, One Piece animation error screenshots are the fucking best. They're the best. That shit is animated so poorly. Well, they have to make 500 episodes in a week. So what happens when you outsource 10 outsourcers?

It's being made by five different outsourcers. You outsource to South Korea and South Korea outsourcers to South Korea. They outsource to India. South-er. So yeah, we know. It's coming. It looks cool. I hope so.

I hope so. I hope it's good. Yeah, exactly. But someone made a good choice. We didn't talk about it last week, but fucking, I just put sick ass criminal fighting on the docking. Oh god, we forgot about that. And Pat lost his shit because he's like, wait, what is that?

I'm not going to tell you. Just wait. I've been waiting for like five days. And then I did describe it to Matt though. And so here's what we got. What is sick ass criminal fighting? Sick ass criminal fighting is, I'm putting an article which is, leave it to Australia to invent a unified weapons master.

I fucking posted this on Twitter like three weeks ago. To resurrect gladiator duels with carbon fiber suits. Oh sick. So there's these sick ass, literally, there's no other word to describe it. They look like the suits that they wear in Pacific Rim. They look raw and ass fucking battle armor. So they cool. They got all sorts of sensors on the suits.

They protect you from the weapon hits. But they know where they get hit. And they know where they get hit with what impact. And that impact gets converted into a number which subtracts from the life bar on the laptop next to the battle. Whoa. Is this a TV show or a product? This is a TV show.

No, they're starting, they're starting, they want to make a league and push it. It will be a TV show. Right? That's so cool. You read that article and they're like, okay, like we have all these like, we have UFC and we have all these mixed martial arts and all this stuff. And we're dudes that learn how to murder a dude with a sword. How do you quantify that?

No outlet. How do you quantify that? No outlet for that. Because you're always going to have to risk them pulling the punch at the last second and not decapitating some of them. And there is those really cool sword fighting leagues with that cool girl that we saw that was all like awesome with her armor. But it's still like you're pulling back and the swords are not the same.

So the fact that this has a life bar, I mean, we're trying to figure out. So hold on a minute now. What you're saying is you can have systems in your battle. And it's like, if you get comboed enough and fast enough and hit hard enough, you're going to get dizzy. How do you get dizzy? How can you actually trigger someone to get dizzy? It means the articulated joints stiffen up.

No, no, that's dumb. So it's like, you're not actually going to get dizzy in real life. So when you get hit enough, a fucking flash bag just goes off in your helmet. And you're just standing with the stars around you. And you see like a guy with his hand above a big red button and he's watching the dude and he's like, oh, you're starting me to stop. No, you're just like, it's us. Oh, fuck.

Like when I picture it, you're actually like, oh, they're wearing helmets. I need to know. They're wearing like bike helmets, like biker helmets. They're big battle helmets. Yeah, totally. And it's like right in their eyeballs. And it's like, I can take one, but you better not get a re-dizzy combo because you can't take more than two of these flashbangs directly to them.

Don't get re-dizzied, man. That's awesome. It's like we need weapon fighting. Let's create totally sealed suits that no one can die in. I can't wait to see that. Just let people go at it. I'm pretty sure that Australia make the standard wear for all citizens just so they can continue to survive.

It's a loop. That's correct. The pain bush can nothing on me now. Just the idea that you're hitting the guy and at some point mid-round, you're just your level three maximum. I got my bars. Yeah, exactly. We're almost there.

Oh, god. Since you don't need to do it with real weapons, you can just have weighted equivalents. You can have like a transforming something. Oh, you know what I want? I want this tournament to build up to like a Goro-style boss fight. There's a person with a laser tag gun. Fuck. So we can finally decide.

Dude, if this becomes a product like Nerf Rest in Peace. Done. They should suit one of these guys up and send them to WWE and he can be the Time Lord. Exactly. Just start making the child-sized versions now. Yeah. And child-sized like super expensive like VR suits or whatever the fuck these are. That's genius because kids outgrow that shit.

Oh, Billy, you still want your death kumite suit? Well, it's going to be another. Two thousand on. I hope you have a lot of birthdays this year. Yeah. Fuck babies Taekwondo, man. Promote that baby. Take death sport.

That baby can already put that on. The first round is going to be fucking Naga versus that baby. You do the hey-hash drop your child off the cliff, but he's in the suit. He's like, whatever. Yeah. I can take it. He's back before lunch. Okay.

So the other thing that we got was a link to this trailer for a new Kickstarter that popped up, a game called The Vagrant. I don't know if you saw it. I might have. No one saw it but you, man. No, that's not true. No, I mean in this room. Okay.

But Pat, you were there with me because we saw The Vagrant. Oh God. Yeah. I forgot. My brain blanked on this. Let me try and pull up this page so that you can take a look over and see a little bit about The Vagrant. The Vagrant.

This is a news story for real. So what's the deal with it? It looks like a side-scrolling, very painterly style, art style, very nice. Very exaggerated art style on proportion. In some ways. Textures, very old fantasy style. Oh, I see it. Let's scroll down here.

If you can just lean over my shoulder, maybe. Matt, you can come around here. You can take a look at some of the sprites. How does this only have two, oh, it's in pounds. That's why. If you could take a look at some of these sprites over here, maybe. This is a thing. Yeah.

Okay, so there it is. There it is. There it is. Right? Look at that right there. Look at that giant boss with the armor. Yeah. That looks really cool.

Yeah. This all looks very cool. Yeah. So inspired, one might say, like heavily influenced by the vanilla. Yeah. Which the person admits in their pitch. Yeah. Yeah.

We were watching the train check out the trailer and you go, oh, inspired. That brick looks like Dragon's Crown brick. I don't know if it is. I don't know if it is. I don't know if it is. I don't know if it is. I don't know if it is. Do you notice that in this Kickstarter page, almost all these cute, funny little doodles

of the characters and saying what is a lot like sword, strength of the sword ultimate as well. A little bit, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but mainly just the, the art style and game in the main character. We have a look at it right now. So, we were watching it and we were like, oh. Dude, the bareborn is like that fucking imp girl from, from, from Orma Ramassa.

Wooly and I were watching it and it's like, okay, this is, this is shameless. But then you go to the page and it's like, oh, inspired by Boromoramassa, inspired by Dragon's Crown. Yeah. Okay. It's Odin's Fair. Wear it on its sleeve, right? Here.

Look at this. Look at it. Look at this. Okay. That's that. Yeah. Okay. Pendulous.

That's some Dragon's Crown. Pendulous. And what I need you to see if I can fucking find it is the logo for the game that appears at the end of the trailer. You're not. I'll look it up after. It's Dragon's Crown. It's Dragon's Crown.

It's literally the Dragon's Crown font. So Wooly and I were on this like, oh, that's a little shameless, but fine, fine. And we looked at the video on the guy's YouTube page to see what was going on. And Wooly just thought it was some dude's page like that had taken the trailer from somewhere. I go, no, no, no, no. This is, this is the Kickstarter creator's page. Oh my God.

That's the logo. You're right. You go to the YouTube page for the Kickstarter. It's like, okay, he's got six videos up here. Two, three are from the Vagrant. Two are the same trailer. One is like a combo thing. And the others are from Mugen.

The other are named Mugen. Right. And so if you take a look here, Liam, can you describe for me what this appears to be? What that thumbnail appears to be right here. That is Mugen. All right. No. What is in the thumbnail?

I can't make it out. What the fuck is it? It's just from Guilty Gear. Yeah. And that's Karen. That's Karen from Street Fighter Alpha 3. But she's mysteriously beige. She's naked.

Yes. Of course she's naked. So the trailer for the video is right here in the playlist with some drawing stuff and then just naked Karen fighting through Mugen. Four test captures of naked Karen fighting through Mugen. And it's like, okay, I'm not sure if you meant to do that. But you did. But there it is.

All I can say is just looking down on that Kickstarter page, looking at the bareborn, I'm already dropping money. I already just did on my phone. I just want to put money in now. Okay. Yep. So that's happening. Because you can rip off Vanellaware, but you're doing it.

They are doing it. They are doing it. It certainly does look... I just manned the goofy adventure we had. Yeah. Yeah. Starting out with the Vanellaware and ending it naked Karen. That's a good night.

That's a good night. It was in the middle of the afternoon. What's this game called? They just searched bareborn on Kickstarter and that was Vagrant. So Vagrant. Vagrant. Thank you. It's not a great name for a BMW.

23 days left and they're only at about 10%. So that's something we have to fix. I want to play this game. You can do that. You don't want to play this? No. So we've got... All standing hatred.

So other things happen. That doesn't let you cheat? What? Other things that... If you have half a leg to stand on. That's the joke. Wait a fall for it. It was just pretending to be an idiot.

You almost tricked me, Dupus. No, that's why that statement came up. Why? Because they won't let you cheat. Because I'm the cheater. Fuck you guys. Do fight, yeah already. Do fight, yeah.

That's fucking... Sweary talk. Sweary talk on his Twitter. He's watching Kaximania. And all he has to say is do fight. Yeah. Okay. Other things that happened immediately after the podcast ended last week.

They announced Rock Band 4. It's about time. Hey, if they can fucking get your song libraries from previous gen consoles. They can and they will, except for the ones on disc. They said they're trying. They didn't say they can and they will. But boy, that is a fucking undertaking to repopulate thousands of items on another storefront. Holy shit.

I'm in a bad position on this because I have PS4 as my main console now. Yeah. And 360 was my main console before. And those sure as fuck aren't gonna transfer over. That's the cool part. The cool part is that if you followed your console's progression. Yeah. Then your profile is the same.

Thus you don't have to do any actual work. Because you're already on it. It is associated with your profile already. Well, you know what I just mean? They have to create new DLC for the PS4 version. Yeah. Like you can't just use the PS4 for the DLC. Right away.

Yeah, exactly. But they should be able to do that because Rock Band 4 is supposed to be a platform entry. It's what they're called. See, they said that for Rock Band 1 and Rock Band 2 and Rock Band 3. They were lies each time. Because the publisher made them a lie. Because the infrastructure just wasn't there yet. But now they're trying to do this and say that we want to make out, we want to make one game.

And that'll be the one for this generation. And that'll have everything. Sounds good to me. I could play with a little plastic guitar again. Everybody feels it's about that time. And that's kind of what we told them. We filled out that hole. It could be even more in the future.

Like, it's like two thousand what? Well, as it is, this game is only gonna come out at the end of 20s. That's true. And now that we know. And the partner of Madcats for the instruments. That's true. That's awesome. But now that we know how that can go and how you can over saturate it, we can pace ourselves.

Well, here's the problem. You know, the guitar hero is also coming back this year, right? Well, now it's all ruined. That sucks. So. Now I didn't know. Pick your poison. So, like the instant you said, well now we can pace ourselves.

I bet that harmonics will. I don't think that Activision knows what the word pace means. So the right answer is get the next project diva because you can import any songs into that game. It's always your answer. Well, you could have just kept up with frets on fire. If you're gonna say that, just point people at audio surf and call it a day. That too. Other things happened.

Maxis was shut down by EA. Not surprising. You have the list. Life goes on. Yeah. Actually, Maxis was shut down, but let's take a look over the years. So actually thank you to Kotaku for compiling this list. After they removed swimming pools, I wanted them dead.

An updated list. Oh, that's harsh. No, no. An updated list. How could you kill them if there weren't swimming pools that's around the sense of it? Yeah. EA sure built a swimming pool. An updated list of studios that EA has bought and then shut down.

I like that image that EA built a pool in front of their door and everybody just walked out and couldn't get out of the pool. Mythic. The guys that made Dark Ages of Camelot. Bullfrog. Bullfrog. The guys that made Syndicate and Dungeon Keeper. They made Bump Bubble. No, keep going.

Dungeon. The makers of Ultima and Wing Commander. Westwood. The makers of Comedy Conquer, of course. Dreamworks Interactive. Slash. Danger Close. EA Los Angeles.

They have made Medal of Honor. Phenomic. The guys that made Spell Force and Battle Forge. Black Box Games. Need for Speed and Escape. That one hurts me. That one hurts me real bad. Pandemic.

The Saboteur. That one hurts me. That was... Pandemic was within one year of buying the company. It's a new day. No, it's not. It's not. Playfish.

The guys that made The Sims Social. And New FX. The makers of NBA Street. So... Rip and Piece. Yep. Just buy them up. Stop shop.

Stop. Drop. Shut them down. Open up shop. Literally riding like a rough rider. I can't wait for ten years from now. No, let's say seven years from now that they close Bioware down. And like the whole thing like ends up being exactly what every

crazed fanboy or naysayer that said it was going to be. Like just... To be fair, that's a long good stretch of years. Yeah, but like the doctors and Hudson left... Yeah. And they won't shut down Bioware until Bioware has like a real stinker a couple of times in a row. And they probably give Bioware like way more leeway.

Yeah. You know. Because like Maxis just had SimCity and they didn't do Sims 4, another team did that. But like it's really a tribute. SimCity was a huge public failure. This is the video game equivalent of that, you remember when Family Guy died and came back on Fox and then they came back and the first joke they did was throwing Fox under the bus by listing every show that they cancelled?

Like this is... This shows that everyone... This is that. That is still the funniest joke of the entire research into Family Guy. I thought you were going to say the entire show. Nah, the first two seasons better. And then they immediately just died. But yeah, that was a shot fired from around the world.

One shot fired? Yeah. If your company might get bought by EA, make sure they pay you, the owner, lots of money so you can bail. You can bail with everyone and open a new company. Because you're going to need to bail. When your philosophy is make money in order to make games and theirs is make games in order to make money, it's not going to mesh in the long run.

If you want a really long video based on exactly what Willie just said, go to Mr. B-Tongue's channel on YouTube and go to a video called A Tale of Two Companies where he does a twenty minute breakdown of business shit explaining why when your company gets bought by EA that stuff changes, even if EA doesn't want it to change, and he said that if worse comes to worse, what will happen is that all the leads from these projects will just leave. And then they all left. Cool though. In the meantime, Source 2 was announced.

Yeah! And it's free with no royalties. It's actually legit totally free. I like these announcements. Just make sure that it's on Steam. I like these reactive announcements to other people's announcements. Unreal. Before an invention that is not proven to be great yet.

Because no one's using it. No one's using it. It's free, but we have to take some of your money. Because it's standard. But the new game is also... Tekken 7. Street Fighter V also. But comparative...

Yeah, comparative to Unreal 3. It's not a bad... No engines... Even cry engines are great. No, it's not that it's a bad engine. It's just like, Unreal 3 owned the ninth generation. I say that because the one game I played on Unreal... No, you just seem really down on it.

The one game we played that actually... Before was a technical math that was... That looked shittier than the Wii U games. You know how the Genesis won in the hood? The SNES won. But in the hood... Actually, I did the math. The Genesis won.

I looked it up. Genesis and Super Nintendo. At the end of their life cycles, it was 52% for the Genesis. Because of North America. And particularly Europe. Europe. Europe. Yes.

But that's why... It's the whole thing about why Genesis won in the hood. Because sports games were so good. But then you go to Europe. And then sports like. Yeah. Sports. You gotta have the footy match on the TV and then when the footy match is done.

Yes, the Super Nintendo one. You gotta play the game. In Mexico, I saw a sports bar and had all these American sports channels listed as channels they had. And one of them was EA Big Sky Sports, which does not even... But yeah. So that's how that happened. And like, while UE won and had everything in the fighting game community, the TITO Type

X to won. Because that was the system that every new game entry was on. All of them. Not Armageddon. Fair enough. You think that's the same fighting game? You know what? You know what?

Yeah. I can't fight it. You can't fight it. Because it's dumb. Because the facts back it up. No. No. Shut up.

Armageddon was the life support that kept Street Fighter going. No, Armageddon was the nearby pillow. It could have propped your head up. Or... Yeah. Yeah, all right. That's good. Speaking of...

Yes, okay. Source is free. Completely. But you have to put it out on Steam. We should have going to do it on Steam. That's the way. Yeah, I know, right? Yeah.

What a genius thing. Like, put it on our store. Or Dessara. You mean your store that's... There's something with you and I'm already doing it. The store that's like 70 to 80% of the entire market? Yeah, okay. And what's great is that it's like, it has to be out on Steam, but not exclusively on

Steam. Yeah, it could be everywhere. So it's like... Well, that's why they have that. Imagine like a hardball negotiation contract signing, and like, but everything on the deal is like... It's totally fine. Awesome.

And you were going to do it anyway. They just present it like it's a hardball, like, oh, shit. If you make this game, you're going to have to eat ice cream every day. Well, I mean, it's like any other engine. You scroll to the bottom, you check the box, and you hit agree. Yeah, and we're like... We're going to take some royalties. Something to turn there, no frontiers.

But only some. You're going to take most of them. And look, we have a bunch of puppies that we're going to be delivering to your dev studio every couple of weeks. You better play with them. You better play with them because they are cuddly. Or else we'll know. We've got a bunch of release dates, actually.

We got the release date for MGS5. It's September 1st. That's September 1st. Four months later than I want it. Worldwide. I want it now. Yeah, okay, okay. You know who's really mad about this?

Anyone who still has to go to school. Yeah. Education. I thought you were going to segue into, you know, who's really mad about this? Max. Because Mad Max also releases on September 1st and therefore we'll get annihilated. Oh no, that sucks. That sucks because that game, that new trailer, looks really awesome.

Yeah. They, it's far away. They can move it. If the movie's popular enough, it won't be an issue. Yeah, but it's like five months after the movie comes out. You know who else is upset about this? Good Jeeva? No.

Okay, I was going somewhere with that. Shit. You know who else is upset? IGN. Okay, that's where I was going with it. Yeah. IGN's pretty peeved. See, that's, I was saying Kojima for the exact same reason that you're saying IGN.

What's going on in IGN? Every time it's leaking out. I don't know, but it's actually good. Like, they can't pull those cheeks together and it's just getting all over the floor. There's too much. That one on Combat League was bad. There's, there's four fucking characters in a day. That's, that's like your ad campaign for two months.

Well, the game's out of the one. Yeah. Still not as bad as Ultimate Marvel, but. Yeah, that was, that was, that was. You know what? That's the go-to. Yeah. I think the Mortal Kombat thing was a work.

No. Do you know why? Because remember a few weeks ago I said they have so many more characters revealed they can't possibly space them out. Let's have a leak. Yeah. You know what? I'm sure Ed Boone was saying, hey, let's leak Kenshi by having like a fucking 320p screenshot

of the mobile version. Yeah. I don't agree with that because in my mind you would continue the slow pacing and then during the last week you go bananas. Here's 10 more. Exactly. Yeah, maybe. But it's like, I still think it's like it was just poorly spaced out and they were just

like, oh shit, just not fucking. You're insane. No, no, it's just. I like it. It seems that way. It seems that way. You do. I know.

But, but like the pacing thing is really based on the, the market, market, marketing ramp up. You know? Like, yeah, like Liam said. It's got to increase frequency. It all leads up to midnight. There you go. Um, and in the fucking Metal Gear's case, like the IGN stream leak of like this big

interview, the full fucking 10 minute video, and it got, but it got pulled midstream for it. Yeah. I was watching you. Fuck. I watched it and then 70% through somebody said, here's the 1080p version because I was watching like the phone shit on my television like, okay, I switched to this and then the instant I finished, it's like, it's gone.

It's gone. So it's too late now. Yeah. It's also appeared or now for your gigantic metal fucking love fist. Okay. There was a question on Amazon that was like, can I use this as an actual prosthetic arm? This is urgent. And the answer is no.

Of course it was. I don't know about you guys, but this is one of the worst collectors things I've ever seen. Yeah. I would like it if it was one to one, but it's just a small little bit. In the face of digital, collector's editions become more desperate. Yeah. This is also the worst Metal Gear box art ever.

Yeah. I haven't seen the box. What is it? It's a render of Snake's head sideways with a big red V on it. That's the actual box art and I thought that was work in progress. Yeah. I thought that was place order. It has a big ugly red strip on the top to let you know you got the day one version that

looks worse than the rest. Does the Japanese version different? I think it's the same. Actual. I think it might be different. No, no, I think it is different. I think it is different. But either way.

It's no good. God, man. Well, I'm getting... Ground Zeroes looks way better. Like... Well, I'm getting the digital version. Obviously. I still prefer the art like they used to be, but...

Yo-Yo G. Yo-Yo G. Yo G's desk is right next to Kojima's. Hey, Liam, to be fair, do you remember fucking MGS4's atrocious box art? That's bad, too. That one's not great. It's just CG render of old Snake looking downish. I'm old.

Like... I forgot. Side to collector's edition. You did forget that. Like, it's awful. It is awful. And don't forget the shit font. The shit font?

Oh, I forgot. There you go. The font that ruined the logo for Metal Gear. That's like, you had perfection. That's why I bought the physical version of Ground Zeroes because it's got Yo-G right on the front. Like, the MGS1, 2, and 3... As for Yo-G.

Yeah. The MGS1, 2, and 3, like, fuck typography is like curving masturbation. It's perfect. It's unbelievable. And they just... How do you shit the bed that hard on that? I don't know. Um, so yeah, they had that.

We had the Street Fighter 5. I can't wait for Metal Gear Solid 5. I'm so excited. No, you will wait. Also, I don't want to wait. You will though. I think September is fine. I was thinking it was going to be much later.

I thought it was going to be in December or maybe next year. Yeah. I thought it was going to get delayed again. I'm so happy. I thought the announcement was delayed till next March. I'm so happy that this year I get to play Metal Gear and Final Fantasy XV. At least a little bit. Let's not hold up our breath on that second one.

There's always more time to push it. What, the demo? No. Oh, okay. I said at least a little bit. Oh, okay. That's what you meant. No, the full game is not coming out this year.

Are they saying it is? No. Nobody's saying it is. Oh, okay. That's smart. There's another 5 that had an announcement, release date released. That's the Street Fighter. Probably the most limp way you could ever announce it.

Via Amazon Accidental Leak. No, via Capcom, press release at their PAX Prime merchandise booth. That's where it was confirmed. PAX East merchandise booth. Sorry? Probably East PAX East. That's what I said, PAX Prime? Yeah.

Yeah. Because there are times like now. I told you about the Amazon thing and you went, that's bullshit. All of Amazon's things are fuck ups and they go, let me read further. Oh no, there's a small little piece of paper at PAX East Capcom's merchandise booth that said, yeah, it's coming out in 2016. Capcom booth is really just a day pattern. It's a Capcom 7-11 that they set up with Capcom themed merch.

But this time around they had some tents for monster hunting. But where the fuck was DMC Ultimate Edition or whatever? It could have been there. Rightfully not there. It's a product that we are selling right now. Did you guys see Game Informer's breakdown of the DMC HD Definitive Edition? I saw that they cut out the line in the intro that was like, all you have to do. The world is yours.

All you have to do. And I'm like, the world is your bitch. As am I. All you have to do is grab it by the hair, bend it over and that part's been cut out. So they're censoring the game now? They thought the pacing was bad and that was the excuse. There's that. There's a new cut scene in which Virgil explains why he shot the fetus.

Oh, whoa. Wait, what? Is it? Yeah. And this is, and it's a bad reason, but it was clearly shoehorned. But my favorite, my fucking favorite, is they removed his hat from every scene. Remember Virgil had this fucking lame bowler hat? Yeah.

It has been removed from the game entirely. That's good. That's good. That hat was so stupid because it's like, if you wore it all the time, yeah, fine. But you only wore it like a few cutscenes here and there. I know. It's like, why even have it at all? Do you remember me and you were talking about like this, we were all talking about it.

Yeah. This is the biggest walk back ever. Oh, hey, Craig, cool. My ancient rival brother is a fedorian. That's awesome. To hear them walk it back more. Yeah. Like they're walking it back even, like they're putting stuff in to walk it back.

So like the biggest fucking, I've never seen a back down of this proportion. I thought Hydrophobia's back down patch. Well, no, that was, but we made the game better. That was, that was, we made the game better. Oh, no, but they were pissed that people just liked the game. Oh, okay. So I remember, they gave the improvements to spite people. But this is like, not only are we fucking backing down, but we're grabbing fan patches

and throwing them. Okay. You remember when I asked you guys if you thought they were going to cut that line out where he, he gets the mop head and he makes fun of it and taunting away? And I said, are they going to take that out of the game? You guys went, no, that's crazy. Yeah. Now it's way less crazy.

Why? Because they might be going. Oh, no. We don't know. But they are actually pulling shit out and putting. You know what? You know what? The fucking video is up of the side-by-side comparison.

We could go check it out. We should go. We can't do it now, obviously. We're doing a podcast. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Glorious. Hopefully that game is good.

Yeah. There was, I mean, as long as there's nothing horribly wrong with it, it should be pretty good. Yeah. Just looking at the list of improvements by all accounts, it should be good. Like I might actually go back and try and do a harder difficulty now that those student colored enemies are gone. Yeah.

That's a hell of an improvement. Ha! See what you did there. There's also a bunch of Microsoft news. Phil Harrison might be leaving. Good. One less robot. That's good for everyone.

The guy that nobody wants to work for. When he left Sony, everyone was like, infogrames to you. When he left Sony, everyone was like, good. And then he joined Microsoft and people were like, ugh. And then now he's leaving Microsoft. Good. Well, not yet, but probably. Do you remember?

He was the face of the online DRM thing, because it was his interview that went sideways and the unveiling. Yeah. And he's just, he's clearly realized too late that he wasn't supposed to say anything. And just dug it and just, oh, there's nothing you can do. You got Wasteland 2 confirmed for X-Bone. And PS4 also. And you got Shovel Knight coming X-Bone as well.

With Battletoads. So clearly X-Bone version, superior to all. Yeah. Which I can confirm from personal conversation was Yacht Club's choice. Nice. I wonder, I don't know, complete speculation. I hope, I wonder if they're going to patch something in on Nintendo's side to add another boss.

I don't think so, because it's like, because anyone that owned a Nintendo console or a PC have been enjoying the game for like, almost a year. But they're going to come back for the big patches. Yeah. And those are totally new game though. They're going to come back for the big patches. But it's like, the reason why there's like, maybe, well, people have told, I saw people saying, well Sony requires that you have some sort of exclusive content and Microsoft

requires exclusive content. No, Microsoft still, yeah, but Sony stopped doing that. So regardless, Kratos is in there, Battletoads are in that, and it's just kind of like, here's an extra for maybe of you that already owned this, the old version, and it's at least something new. And there was some other weird stuff that Microsoft was talking about there. They were saying like, hey, they want to do cross buy on PC with the Windows Store. And they said, we're thinking about bringing first party stuff from the Xbox to the PC

like that fable game that no one cares about. And given that it's free to play, everyone's going to try it. I mean, KI was a success in that regard. So you know, fucking, hey, put KI on the fucking PC, Microsoft. By the way, someone asked that, and they said right now or not, but you know, you can look forward if you pronounce it. Hey, D4 is coming, so is it? That's not confirmed.

They made a fucking mouse UI. Yeah, sure. Well, I know, I know, it's not confirmed at Swarie said, oh, this is just something I need. There's something that he cooked up. There was this weird moment where somebody was asked, like, tag me in a Twitter post is like, hey, Swarie, put fucking D4 on Steam. And his response was, but do you really want it?

And my response was, yes, dude, we do talk to Durante. I'm sure he'll be able to find that name just by searching. Actually, yes. Yeah, you're right. He's pretty famous. I mean, before I forget, at the Killering Sim panel, they said that one of Maya's costumes is a send up to a Phantom Dust character. Yeah.

Whoa, really? A woman character with like orange glasses. Yeah, okay. My question was, hey, you know, one of the coolest things was seeing the kick costume as a surprise for TJ Combo in the game. You think there might be any Lightning Thebes costume accessories from another dive kick character that you could put on another Lightning Thebes character, maybe? Please?

And they were like, oh, I had it, you know. We're always looking to put in cool cameos, but hey, Maya has a Phantom Dust thing. Dick, awesome. But no, but just, who are you telling this? They're the panel, the entire panel. Did you ask them that? Yeah. And who responded to you?

Microsoft producer. And who doesn't know what's up? Did he just like look at you? No, what was that? And just like, why are you ruining our panel, sir? He just kind of... He's your fucking Hoosier character. No, but that's what I mean.

Like, did he know Zubaz? Well, I didn't want to say Zubaz right then and there. I mean, had it been Keats or Dave Lange, they would have been like, DJ's was on the panel. I should have went for the cheap pop and said the word and got the ideas. Like, this is the kind of thing where, like, I want Willie to stand up and ask the question and just completely sandbagged? Yeah. Fight everyone and then a bottle hits you in the back of the head and you turn around

and it was laying. Fucking Jabali was ready to spear me, I'm sure of it. Yeah, Jabali was standing right there. Yeah. He's in the fucking game. On the, on the, on the, on the Yacht Club thing, though, like when I was like, hey, so yeah, but about the battle tool, just that, like, you guys, how'd that go down? And he's, they're, they're pretty much just like, yeah, you know, they're like, hey,

we can pick anyone from the library. Cool. You know, to choose from or whatever. It's a good pick. You know, they were like, hey, man, so can we get like the snake from Snake Rattle and Roll and Microsoft's like, who, and they're like, battle tools. Can we just get battle tools? To be fair, I know a tiny bit about the amount of stuff about Snake Rattle and Roll and,

and Rare doesn't own that. Rare made Snake Rattle and Roll, but trade West. Yeah, man. That's, oh, that's funny though. It's fucking great. Um, shit. By the way, that same Microsoft producer, also a battle toad's t-shirt. So dude, it's happening.

It's Spencer. It's not the only one. Yeah, it knows. Um, I think they know that's one of their only old ones that really has a law. That they'll clearly give to an actual. I will buy an X bone for battle toads. Everyone. Not everyone.

We talked about this. How do you actually make battle toads? You just Mega Man nine it. Yep. You just make a hard ass battle toad. Dude, it doesn't matter. It could be a puzzle game and it allowed to sell the PS4. All it needs is nose.

And I guess battle toads will save Microsoft. I should just have the old soundtrack. And the two things that we got to just gloss over quickly as we move on. Gloss it. Uh, bland watch had two new characters announced. And I say that not because the game is bland, but the fucking title is bland. We couldn't believe that the giant overwatch booth still said overwatch. They're committed to it.

They're committed to it. It's happening. It's happening. They get sued for that. They reveal two new characters and these two characters are awesome. It just hurts to be Dennis. We just look at that name. I think the girl looks sick.

I don't really like to die that much. It's fine. The man with no name is now in the game. It's cool. Done. And, uh, comic book girl 19 cosplaying as Vasquez from Aliens. Yeah. Is now in the game.

And now I have started my masturbation. Um, so that's cool. And the game. We have a podcast to do. Can you hold off for like, what's going on? Like video games during the podcast. The cheat while doing it. Is that why you always have to go to the bathroom once in a while?

Podcast conversations are so exciting. I need to go to the bathroom. Although, although with our time, WWE shit, I'm starting to think about it. You can send in future Matt to take over temporarily. It really just, it's like the game continues to look cool and continues to sound awful. Just the name. It's just the name. It's just the name.

It's such a nice car. And the design of the logo. Okay. And we have, and it's all black and red and shit. And we totally, and it's just like every other name that Blizzard has come up with for their products has been good to awesome to the point where even their expansion packs are fantastic. Except for Heroes of the Storm.

Sure. Yeah, but that's also in the same breath. But that's the new, and that's this new era of marketing. And it feels, and it feels like, like, like somehow this name is like, there's so many people that overlook every other decision that Blizzard makes, this had to be a thing where it's like, no, the name is lame, but that means it's good because there's some people that hate the dumb thing. So we need to do it for this money.

So I basically made the decision for myself that copyright and all, and like the amount of time that things have existed has combined to form a world in which all the good names are apparently taken. And every single company has completely forgotten how to name fucking anything. But that's, but that's also kind of bullshit because this is the same podcast in which we discussed a console being announced that has the same name as the existing handheld. Yeah. But you can still do the two word combination of things in with the shield.

Are we going to talk about that? Or what? The shield. We did. Did we talk about it? Yeah. I was going to say, you know, there's a shield tablet, right? The shield.

No. But it's a platform name. It's never been. But there's no designation. If I say how I was playing stuff on the shield, how do I denote which shield it was? I'm playing stuff on Steam. Like, what does it matter if I'm playing it? It means you're on a PC.

Well, which PC? Is it a Mac? No. Pat, you fucked up in the idea that someone would say, I'm playing the shield. Fair enough. The only person that says that is Liam and he only says it as a joke. No, I don't. But I fucked that because you don't have to know that.

That granular. The Wii and the Wii U are terrible names that confused everybody. The worst. The worst. So it's totally a thing that's happening. Yeah, but Nintendo didn't call it the Wii and called the 3DS the Wii. That's why it's 3DS. I know.

But the new 3DS ain't great. But the differences, they all know. The new 3DS is so bad. These names are going to shit. I know, but naming two different products, the exact same name is the worst that's ever been. But they play the same games. Like literally the exact same games.

Sure, but then why? It's like going from galaxy to galaxy phones. It needs to have some kind of ass or... I mean, it's not confusing because you see him on a shelf and it's like, oh, that's a box. Oh, that one has a screen. No, it's not confusing because who cares? Don't name two things the same thing. It's dumb.

Don't do the remake and call it the same thing as the name before. It's dumb. But they do that. Don't do it. It's called the shield console. It's not... And you just called the shield. Oh, is it called the shield console?

It's very interesting. There's the shield, then there's the shield tablet, then there's the shield console. Okay, then those are just fucking awful names. They are, but it's been distinct. But yeah. When I saw the news stories, it just said the shield and then I didn't see anything. Yeah, because they were also talking about like... People are having a hard time.

Like, Vita isn't good, but at least it's a name. It's another thing. It's a different thing. Sorry. Somebody just gave up and put a four at the end of theirs. Good. Well, whatever. That's all you need, though.

Yeah, no. You know what would have been stupid if they had named their console the PlayStation Zero? Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it would have been fucking stupid, wouldn't it? If they had named the console the PlayStation One. And then you go, isn't that the original?

It's like, no, that's the Sony PlayStation. But you did release something. No, that was the PS1. Yeah. I still think 360 is terrible, but upon learning about the fucking workshop titles they had and how cool these guys were, I'm not even surprised. Do you remember any of those? Because I can't remember.

Extreme Ultimate Action. E-U-A. T-E-A. Total Extreme Action. You say they're terrible names and for this shield it's like whatever. There's no data to really back it up. But like two terrible names like the 360 and the Wii and like all the... They're usually successful products and it didn't matter in the long run.

Of course. No, but it only doesn't matter because you get used to it. But they were bad at the time and it's just like, hey, before we forget, this was a stupid name. This was a stupid name. Like the original Xbox that came out back in 2000, whatever. That prototype name shit you're talking about, it was the worst that it must have ever been for anything because the prototype name is the one that made it to market because it's

the direct Xbox. They never even really had one. That's what Seamus Blacklee just said, oh, what is it? It's a direct Xbox. We'll call it something later. And everything marketing came up with was so fucking bad. We're so beyond the years of the Katana and the Dolphin. Dolphin fantastic name.

If the Dreamcast was called the Katana, the Dreamcast would still be a thing. But then it got a shitty name. Which one was the Nitro? The 3DS? No, the DS. Wait, one of the 3DS? No. You want to pull a DS cart out and you look at the code at the bottom, it says NTR and

then the fucking code name. You're right. We games say DLP or some shit for Dolphin. Dolphin is fucking awesome. We games are RVT. RVT? You couldn't play it. RVT is revolution.

Revolution. That's right. You're totally right. And the last thing was it's like, there's that video that came out with Tim Schaeffer talking about Peter Molyneux. Weird. And it was just kind of like, hmm, of all the people that would talk about this. Tim, you're literally the only person in the world I don't want to see this sentiment from.

It's a little bit weird. Literally. Yeah, people weren't happy with this. But he's right in saying that shit happens because it does happen. Yes. And what he said wasn't inaccurate, it was just like, totally. You were talking about him defending you. He did it?

Yeah. Oh, I was talking about the shit that he got into. Oh, yeah. No, no, no, not that, not that. No, just the thing where he was talking to Peter Molyneux, it was like, yeah, he was saying very plain, normal human being things. It was just like, just get the guy sitting next to you. I know it's a logical fallacy to be like, the anti-argument from authority or fucking

whatever, but it's like, Tim, anyone. He even admits. Yeah, he does. Yeah, he does. He does. Hey, by the way, I need to tell you about this. I think you find it really cool. I watched, so they do like these let's plays at Double Fine of games that they've worked

on in the past. Right. And they did one of Psychonauts. Right. They invited a speedrunner to do it and they just talk about the bugs going on while the speedrunner is doing it. Sick. And a lot of them are blind to the speedrun.

That is awesome. It's like an hour long. Okay, so like the speedrunner is doing like memory leak bugs and things like that. Well, not memory leaks, but yeah, he's doing a bunch of bugs. Memory exploitation bugs. And the people, no, and the people are figuring them out on the spot and it's just really, really cool. Okay, because when you say invisible to the player, that makes me think of like, I'm doing

a trigger here, that'll mean this stage will load faster later. Because if I stand here, this is what happens. Because if I stand here, this is what happens. All right, all right. Regular stuff. Let's do some letters. It's letter time. If you have a letter, send it to superbestfriendcastatgmail.com.

If you have an email, electronic letter, send it to superbestfriendcastatgmail.com. You can also twit longer at a wooly. Also, twit longer seems like, I approve, like you're spitting on the idea of Twitter. Like the whole point. No, no, stop it. Don't, whatever. And upfront to Twitter. I think, but I think it's a pretty good idea because some people could use it.

Twitter's pure, man. Yeah. Total biscuit uses it. And like it, like he doesn't, yeah. If we're reading your letter and you think it's going really poorly, just have yourself go back in time to send an even better letter or correct your letter if it hasn't sort of missed anything. So back in my childhood, before the internet, there was the, we used to be able to do that.

It was called reading your shit before you gave it into the teacher. Yeah, it's called once over. And the trick, here's the trick. Write it and don't reread it that day. Yeah. Because that day you're too close. It's a watch. It's a total watch.

It's a total watch. You will not see any of the dozens of spelling errors that you made. And then come back the next day and be like, oh God, I can barely write. Oh, I better fix this. I did that with all my fan fix. Or if you're not a huge nerd, just send it. Yeah, well I was. What questions we got?

Ken wants to know if I was. Ken wants to know how we can swear by TMS plot guide when he doubts the canonicity of rival schools. Because TMS. Because Capcom doubts the authenticity of rival schools. Slash existence thereof. Yeah. Like Capcom did like, tries to do everything in their power to try and make you ignore that weird demon lightsaber shit at the end of Project Justice has nothing to do with Ryu and Gang.

Yeah, the reason why TMS is confused is because Capcom's confused. Sorry, I don't actually know the situation. Did Capcom try to downplay the story? Like what was the deal? No, it's just he thinks that as far as the plot goes, the rival school characters and their inclusion into the Capcom sort of world and universe, he doesn't think it's actually part of the Street Fighter canon. Like is that where it was like a lone, like cameo-ish character? Is there anything to back up that it's not?

A MOOC somewhere and all about Capcom? Probably. Okay. That's where TMS gets most of his stuff. To verify the anonymity. We got one coming in from Caleb. What is the super best friend's flavor at Ben & Jerry's? What's a-

Ice cream. Cookie dough. You mean what we would taste like? Cookie dough with salt on it. And a big sparkler that like 4th of July fucking. I've never eaten at Ben & Jerry's. No, you missed out on some really good ice cream. Ice cream day every year.

You could get- Nobody tells me. The thing that's been advertised for the last 20 years or- I don't look out my window. I forgot. They had the flyers at the IGA you worked at. I didn't read those. You put them in my bag.

Do you remember when me and you at Woolie's place, like the last time we were arguing about the temperature and Liam like grabbed you to stop you? Because he was like, Matt, he doesn't leave his house. Why are you engaging him? Like, you have to keep remembering. The window might as well be a brick wall. Just a real quick one here. For some reason Melvin decided it was a good idea to say, hey, you're Woolie. I love that you're representing us even if I'm-

He sent me a thing called- A letter called NigaThings. You're Woolie. I love that you're representing us even if I'm Asian. I'm black on the inside. Please answer why black people love anime the most. Yo, Melvin. Melvin, listen up.

Stop. Melvin, listen up. Listen up. Real close. Listen. Stop it. Moving on. What the fuck, man?

I didn't know that black people like to anime the most. Okay, we got a quick one from- You do. Half the anime market is aimed at black people. Is his last name Tutu? No. You wouldn't know it. I wouldn't know it.

Wait, that's wrong. I'm supposed to refer to him as Kennedy Mixley. I have repoll. I guess it does. Okay, so Kennedy Maximal wants to know- Okay, to the best of my knowledge, a Skinner's Box is a psychological conditioning device in which a button is pressed and a reward is given. In video games-

It works better if the reward is given randomly. What exactly? Because it makes you keep pressing it fucking obsessively. Or someone randomly, actually. When is it too much of a Skinner's Box in a video game? When it costs money to press the button. That's one. That's one.

Two in mobile games, right? When I'm coming back specifically for a reward on another day. Yeah, over an actual 24 hour clock. I hate looking at all the new games I have and seeing the amount of them where it's like, I have to go back to these on this schedule. And then you know what you do? You don't. No, I think the limit of sanity is like-

I think that might be why I like the order more than you did. Because I can appreciate just fucking playing a game. You came to it with a different cynicism. And- I hate that whole Skinner's Box shit. I think the limit of sanity is shinies and Pokemon. Yeah. That's the limit.

You know they were in the Game Boy Color games? No, I didn't. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, just the drop rate was so much worse. Wait, stop. Game Boy Color games? The-

Gold, Silver and Crystal. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. That? Wow. I've recently talked to anyone I've ever seen myself. Wow. Because I was like yellow was the Game Boy Color.

Like Willy is a stupid child. Like damn. They all support a Game Boy Color though. Yeah, they do. Red was red. Yeah, the colors were like yellow. Yeah. Monster Hunter is a very in-depth Skinner Box.

Okay, well I was supposed to point that out to you if you didn't figure it out. Straight up. And the PS was like, by the way, Monster Hunter is nothing. Here's the deal. Monster Hunter, because I want a gem. I'm going to hunt 12 times for the gem. I might not get it. I might.

When I get the gem, I'm happy. The difference is, hitting the button is fun. Yeah. On its own. On its own. I don't like when you're just hitting a button or clicking on something and you just do that every day. Yeah.

And you just have to check it back. Check in. Check in. Check in. Check in. That's the Skinner Box. That's too far. I don't like it.

What is coming up? What is coming up on the channel? Anything new? Anything new? Maybe a mystery box at the end of the week. That could happen, but it's a mystery. It's a mystery. It's a mystery when you want to know.

What's in it? We haven't even decided. Matt, you're on something awful. You must know about the spooky icon of a little ghost, and it just says really small. It is a mystery. Yeah, yeah. It is the best fucking icon ever. It's great.

And you have to say it like that, too. So, nothing new means Parasite Eve will continue. Parasite Eve will continue. No new episodic games are releasing this week, so people, we can't do like fucking Life is Strange. Revelations will continue. Me and Pat have a great time doing the second episode of Revelations is better than the first, so that looks forward to that.

It's super good. Yeah, I finished it the other night. It's so good. And Countdown Mode, where it's like, yeah, have a timer to finish the mission. I'm getting so weird about hearing you three talking about a Resident Evil game. Dude, it's the best goal in so long since there's been one game. You made all the greatest co-op ever played. It's so good.

It's so good. The change between all the characters and how each pair has different co-op mechanics, it's fucking great. Well, yeah, I'll play with you on Xbox One if you want. Yeah, do it. They just had to pare down the mechanics a bit. Just a little bit, yeah. So you're going to give Capcom a little bit of kudos for a good job all done?

They deserve it. I'm sure. Totally. I think when we're putting up videos of us playing the game and going, this game's really good. Yeah, it's kudos. I see people saying, like, I'm not going to buy Revelations 2 even though it's awesome because that would mean giving Capcom money.

Oh, fuck off. No, you're teaching them the wrong lesson. Yeah. Don't fucking, don't newspaper spank the dog for doing the good thing and getting your slippers. Don't do it. So without Lost Planet 3, that's the tap on the hand. So you want to talk about Revelations. Like, there's a Revelaton that viewers will see more evident as Matt and I played through

Episode 2 where, remember, like that interview a long time ago after RE6 came out and sucked and they were asked about RE7 and they were like, man, Last of Us seems really popular. We should make our next game like Last of Us. Yeah, there's a lot of parallels. Oh, man. Did they make this game like the Last of Us? A little bit. It's a bunch and it's not egregious.

It's good, but it's like every time I'm like, oh, I like this new system. Yeah, this works just like Last of Us. See, but that's what happened when we were looking at the preview for the next Tomb Raider game and it was like, oh, you just put more Last of Us in your Tomb Raider. Yeah. It's like all these little, that's all that's different. The way it comes out is like, oh, I really like the way this inventory thing works where blah, blah, blah, blah.

Oh, that's really smart. And then the realization has to be like, oh, that's exactly how the inventory thing is. They did that before Last of Us with RE5. No, I'm using inventory as a blanket. It's not actually an inventory thing. It was like, because most of the stuff that Last of Us does is just stolen from Resident Evil. Yeah, well, and on Charter. Yeah, yeah, sure.

What are you looking forward to? I'm looking forward to playing Zero Drifter and finishing it. Tokyo Twilight Ghost Tundra's come out this week. I'm looking forward to buying it at full price and access discounting it 30% on day one. Sounds good. I'm going to go home and charge my 3DS and play Master Hunter. Oh. But there's a second hole in your life that needs to be filled.

Well, Eternity's coming out. No, he just got a new rubber. All right. Two weeks and fucking one step Zero coming out next week. Next week? Yeah. Fill the hole. For fuck's sake, I'm at G-Rank, man.

There's still G2 and G3 to do. And Apex after that, you don't know what the fuck I'm saying. Nope. And I stopped listening. Hey, Matt. I'm playing Ori and the Blind Forest. It's super gorgeous, super good. I'm going to continue playing that.

I have to give a shout out to Fred, who is of the YouTube group Loan Stars. They're pretty cool. He was kindly able to get me a code for the game. Cool. Big ups to Fred. Thanks for that, because the game is way better than I thought it was. You're a tiny, adorable bunny? Yep.

Yeah, and that reminds me. Big ups to fucking Slowbeef, who we met in person. Yeah. Cool. What a cool guy. That dude was pretty cool. Did he bring two setups of Alien Soldier with him? No.

And he was like, yo, you fraud. Almost. I feel like this came out of nowhere, this weird Alien Soldier beef. No, it wasn't even beef. As just expanded beyond your power. It wasn't beef. It was on the podcast that I did with it. He's going to stab you over it.

He talked and came to an understanding where we get each other's tastes identically. Snatcher, Alien Soldier, and then he relics me to Treasure Planet. Not Treasure Planet, sorry. Fuck. God damn it. Come on, forget. A game by Treasure? No, Freedom Planet.

Freedom Planet. Freedom Planet. Freedom Planet. Where are you coming from? We're climbing the tree. And I'm just like, yeah, okay. He understands my tastes exactly. Yeah.

So that's all that was. You know what I want? You know what I want? I want slow beef to go. You know what was really great? Biker Mice. Man, Willie, wouldn't it be great if you're just staring at him and you're like, yeah. You know what that means.

Cold cut to leaning into the mic. Yes, your honor. I did murder the man. No, Willie. Willie, you know what that means, right? It means that you secretly, actually love Biker Mice. We're setting off this podcast right now. You just denied it.

Stop button, stop. Biker Mice. Biker Mice. Biker Mice. Biker Mice.