Castle Super Beast - SBFC 088: You need to Reverse Engineer Dunt Cry Spoderman
Episode Date: April 14, 2015We spend a bunch of time talking about Mortal Kombat X, Bloodborning together, all the new game announcments, and the mechanics of sexing the wind. Â ...
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This podcast is the sandbag cast where we send
back I was trying to start with the
end with the topic of subzero getting
owned left right and center all over the
fucking no no that's not interesting
because everyone knows that but I like
he actually I like the idea of the
child who actually loves subzero boots
up mk9 and sees him getting wrecked
dude as soon as you press start that's
me see him just get his skull rocked in
front of your face let me get into the
story mode and play some zero all my
books are flopping all over I wish I
could get some Mortal Kombat theme book
and they're like two different man that
was you slash that are that thing yeah
yeah yeah God you can't escape it and I
remember I put through there go why do
you hate subzero so much he goes I
don't scorpion done it does scorpion
my favorite character it makes me hope
they just announced a scorpion and subzero
figure and like the scorpion one is like
the sick scorpion thing and the subzero
one he's just dead on the ground
it's like it's like because they always
have even though Ken and Ryu are the two
main guys Ken and Chun Lee are the
promotional material yeah sorry real
and Chun Lee you know you can't always in
the background and if you just have
Chun Lee getting murdered every left
right center every menu every fucking
story the nuts the only fairshade subzero
ever got is he's the one that first got
his own game not scorpion yeah spoilers
game is trash of course what ever more
games and scorpion he got a few good
hits and I play a scorpion fucking
like and there's multiple versions of
some subsequent yes subzero ever missed
a game ever no no no scorpion didn't
miss mk3 scorpion never yeah yeah it's
true so yeah popular you can't remove
them yeah mk3 had no Johnny Cage and no
scorpion what the fuck and no Johnny
Cage no scorpion mk3 also had no someone
also is missing from the group but like
but ultimate brought it back yeah
ultimate brought it back everybody
but including a bunch of new dumbbells
shit yeah like jade your work your
Mortal Kombat 10 is really good no
second bass fishing is really good
second bass fishing is really good
really good second bass fishing X yeah
yeah I like imagine you're fishing if
you do an x-ray and you see the hook
go through the fish yeah I'm a big fan
of fishermen con yeah he's really
intense I'm a big fan of the new fish
zero with the fish with the fish slide
attack that has the fish beam at the
end of it or fish yeah yep yep yeah
it's a good fish all right now this
joke is done yeah that's story fish
modes pretty cool yeah yeah I would play
a story I would get super into where
does this story take place all over the
fucking but sorry is it after mk9 yeah
all of it's after all of it's after
all of it's after mk9 starting from
right after mk9 to 25 years in the
future and it flies all over with all
the children yeah to mostly give
children to mostly give bland characters
like kongjin their backstory they go
back like five years right yeah kongjin
sucks honestly never around like fucking
kudos you stepped it up unbelievable all
the new outworld fighters are fucking
rad yeah all of them ferritor
devorocodokon and erin black erin black
are all rad they're all super cool it's
that kongjin the young kids are pretty
cool before shonen takeda and kina
kassie and jackie are pretty cool yeah
takeda is the winner fucking lame but
but whatever but that that alt is pretty
good that alt is really good with the
hood so you can save it because it's just
green arrow I want to get kassie's
johnny cage alt where she's like like
she's dressed like as if she runs
johnny's like like chain does she have
a tattoo you have a fitness outfit
I want that out yes this is johnny
yeah that's great I saw the fitness
fun yeah it's pretty neat yeah just
simple hoodie yeah it's not much to it
just keep keep it so here's like that
and the styles the style switching
thing is working out so really crazy
um yeah it's like some of them are
different more different than others but
but just the creative implementation of
grooves that like does more than change
your super yeah I was playing earlier
I picked kenshi and like one of his
variants like every single special
movie has this unique to that variant
who is he has no common yeah like like
two moves were one it's just one he
has a blade reflect projectile okay
and every single other move was totally
unique yeah it's a brilliant idea that's
also like affordable yeah definitely
we can do new moves faster than we can
make new characters put a little mcguffin
on the character that differentiates
look this one's got green glasses yeah
this one's got a shotgun and that's all
fine and good everything fine and good
talking about but then when the game
morphs finally morphs into matte combat
sure and then you get those other two
tail seats sure yeah yeah like I'm like
I the game is really awesome now it is
yeah I know later when my child who
here's what I had a chance to see it but
you were telling me about the crypt I
love the crypt and all the other games
I think it's the coolest thing ever the
coolest script apparently the coolest
script I thought the mk9 Crip was like
wow this is the most elaborate one ever
but this one is so sorry I haven't seen
you don't know the crib like it's
goddamn legend of grim wrong it's a
it's a it's a grid-based first person
rogue like dungeon is it wrote like does
it actually randomly feels like it
isn't but there are like quick-time
events where enemies attack you I can't
wait to fight Shao Khan and first person
you know like a shut up because it makes
me feel like I didn't know I wanted to
turn a corner and then the tag team of
me and you're like wandering around and
you're like I need to cross this bridge
I need to find scorpion spirit across
the bridge you serious yeah it sounds so
good yeah I also went to a puzzle like
there is a puzzle with switches to open
up a door are you serious that sounds
best I would buy that game I would
they've done so many like adventure mode
things third person that just didn't
work anyway that sounds like a fresh
combat puzzle combat the racing bullshit
racing bullshit but even the normal
story mode stuff they used to have was
just bland-ass third-person they've
run the whole gamut and it's just like
what do I like today I like the first
I want RTS in this one okay and I'm done
with the game you need more commie dough
goods yeah no more combat is the snoop
dog of the fighting game world it's like
okay he's gotten everything out there
he's got the the variety show the porn
the fucking the rhythm game the children's
park the children's fun park is he what
he's working on all kinds of shit going
on there I hope the guys that build that
children's fun park don't accidentally
mix up the point and it's the same crew
it's the same crew the whole fucking
park is one giant joint
just roll through it was fun just hot
boxing it's great it opens up on 420
every every every afternoon
hey this is episode 88 you guys we made
it to the coveted 88 you know most
podcasts don't make it to 88 it's true
yeah that's probably factually that's
probably it's a gas it's a gas podcast
probably hit number two and they're like
oh it's just me yeah I work as the as
the runtime goes down from 30 minutes to
10 and then three of the cast members
disappeared and it just turns in on
audio log of dick pics it's kind of
eventually it's just no person and a
microphone and an automated system
no empty sound eventually it's just
updates where it's like hey guys I
promise I'm going to make more podcasts
last update three years ago
you know on that wordpress site you
weren't pressed on the youtube channel
that thing three years ago every day
guys every day new content check back
when you research like some franchise
you like and you find a really cool
website you're like oh yes has what I
want then you see like last updated like
2006 you're like oh yeah yeah like a
space jay website but then no that goes
around if you wait long enough you leave
the sadness and become our legendary
yeah space jam being one of them hope
that never goes down old interplay site
was pretty strong too yeah I bet I bet
the space jam website is run by an old
dusty cobweb video recorder deep in a
bunker just a hamster due to some
contractual obligation they're not
allowed to shut it down yeah Michael
Jordan was like okay I want this I want
the website to be up forever okay when
you actually wanted to know your movie
forever I wonder if the lunatics
unleashed website is still up there's
probably a contract there's gonna be a
contract thing where it's like as long
as that site is up they'll never make
space jam to know we have no site space
jam to electric boogaloo it's the
perfect one Pat how's your week that's
pretty good I played some Sega bass
fishing played some a little bit of
Polars of the eternity not not much big
on my front but I did watch a TV show
called Daredevil I also parked I watched
about so Matt watched a bunch of it
I was like Daredevil's fucking dumb I
don't give a shit about Daredevil
because Punisher's blowing up crack
houses in the background I'm not
ambivalent towards Daredevil I like Matt
Murdock yeah that's basically like Hell's
Kitchen I like Hell's Kitchen too Matt
told me a bunch of shit about it's like
super violent about like you say oh yeah
Pat what did you know people on the
Daredevil show get fucking horribly
murdered like wait what like yeah a guy
is like oh I squealed and just impales
himself on a fucking horrible spike
in his face no less daredevil use a bow
no no a bow staff at the at this use
a billy club a billy club uses I thought
it depends on the type of guy they're
like chromagrostics at this but not
pretty things no no no daredevil didn't
do that to the guy no exactly but how
does this get a fence it's a fence
Hell's Kitchen has giant spikes okay
and so that Punisher can jump onto
that I did not expect there to be like a
super gooey decapitate decapitation
it's really don't spoil all the good
shit no we're not saying who does you're
not gonna see the decapitation coming
spoilers and like Matt said something
that really weirded me out when we're
here it's like they did a really good
job of making kingpin really sympathetic
no I said my friend my friend sent me a
message saying and I'm like that's the
dumbest what does kingpin look like
kingpin yes with weight I with weight
involved I would not say that he's
sympathetic but he's more interesting
really interesting and the first I want
to say ten scenes with kingpin are just
super weird and uncomfortable yeah yeah
like just super fucking weird the one
but it's not the green mile so I'll take
it yo Rosario Dawson's fucking awesome
woolly half her head is shaved
oh cool she's super cool I don't like
Karen page that much I don't like it
kind of there because they they felt
they yeah absolutely I don't like foggy
nearly as much either I don't like foggy
that he's well he's supposed to be there
and he's supposed to be like that but I
find him kind of annoying that Murdoch
is the like more way more than dare
devil Matt Murdoch is the fucking star
super charming like the first episode
is like a full 45 minutes of him like
joshing people and making fun of them
because they say shit he's like you know
I'm blind as fuck right like yeah they're
like there's this emotional scene in
which the girl like nods crying and he
just does nothing and he goes did you
just know it's like yeah this doesn't
work like the movies and he goes I don't
see many movies cuz I'm blind yeah just
constant okay yeah haha idiots I'm
blind kung fu moves it's also the good
parts it's kind of slow and I'm like
not into it but it's I like I can get
people saying that but that's slowness
is to give certain characters lots of
interesting you know much of it's out
I will everything I want to know what
I was never the whole season so it's
like a Marvel nights show it's it's as
Marvel television it's just like this
the way to do their level is not network
TV that's so we can't put it on there
put on Netflix so the smartest thing
they did was the backdrop of this
story is like it starts with construction
companies and everyone is constantly
talking there's stuff there's newspaper
articles in the background of the
incident in which half of New York had
to be rebuilt yeah because of event that
was Avengers because of the troubles so
MCU is actually in the show they go
well if you had a magic hammer or
armored suit you'd be able to solve this
problem super quick yeah yeah and and
it's super goofy all right but it's
also super serious like I this I've
disliked every superhero live-action show
ever I did not like smallville I did
not like agents of shield because I've
seen agents of shield what about the
whole TV show and fringe anyway I don't
like and I hate flash if you watch flash
no it's god awful sorry for you that
you could tell from the trailer I like
flash the character fine enough and I
watch this thing like this is just oh
look Dr. Zoom used this cosmic treadmill
to kill my mom but this is the first one
where I'm like I'm down for this and I
can't wait for the Luke Cage show that's
coming right after this here is for
hire yeah I like like I followed
smallville and like got off as soon as
I realized that they're not going to do
the ending they said they were gonna do
yeah they fucking lied they said they
said we're gonna end our show on it for
extra seasons or some shit they should
we're gonna end our show with Clark's
feet leaving the ground that's how you
end it because at that point it's not
small and then we're gonna push the
story all the way into goddamn
metropolis like fast forward to like
bullets bouncing off of eyes and fucking
what would like to flash showed up in
that too yeah and cyborg in the
justice leech hey Gotham hey smallville
not all the heroes have to meet when
they're teenagers or children boy that
you don't like young joker fuck you
speaking of which I didn't even know
that was there off them also hey let's
have a show about Batman that doesn't
have Batman in it
we're trying we're trying Gotham is the
only show where Jada Pinkett Smith was
in your show and declined to come back
Jada Pinkett Smith was too good and she
was like I'm done with this she was the
star of that bad matrix game she was
all right so the daredevil like I'm
ambivalent towards our own like I like
him far enough yeah I'm like I want to
read daredevil man Murdoch's really
charming yeah and the directing's really
good directing's really yeah the action
scenes are done really well the only
thing that is like it doesn't bother me
but it's really obvious is like boy
they're going for like a really specific
style with the color yeah like whole
fucking scenes are yellow or contrast
or like not noirish but like neon I'm
like the whole thing is color graded
like all the way over to make me think
of Wolf among us the game okay the very
least yeah just the idea of making one
of these things straight for netflix is
great maybe makes me think good things
for preacher I mean if the money's there
it makes sense oh you saw who's because
there's no yes uh no no you saw who's
like going to sign as Jesse no Dominic
Cooper who plays Howard Stark like in
the movies like Tony Stark okay he's in
lots of other stuff yeah I don't really
know the actor well black hair like he
looks like he can do it he's a good actor
probably my favorite part of Daredevil
so far and it's like I guess it's for
leading into the future is at the end of
the first episode when after the
criminals have all gone back to their
bases yeah there's a goddamn boss fight
montage of like look at all these people
Daredevil is going to fight yeah as they
do their respective crimes right like
the Russians are throwing people into a
container and the Chinese ladies running
the heroin ring and they're all just
doing their fucking shit and it's like
and the Japanese guys reading the thing
and he just looks like a fighting game
ball the hand is hinted at okay the hand
is like a long-standing control of them
like that awesome section like sorry no
that's that's all you got to have your
cops not not the live action show the
cartoon intro where you just run down
the fucking bad guys yeah cool all right
real good just to demonstrate crime is
happening anything else like I said I
also watched Chalo's a daredevil and I
was kind of like I'll give it a go and
then I was like holy shit I really like
it but the other thing I told you guys
last week I was like I'm gonna try to
track this movie down it's a horror movie
it follows we had to find out so yeah
it's playing at the forum just the
started on this Friday and cool it's got
a really awesome premise what is it
naked man standing on your roof I'll get
I'll get there really quickly but it's
basically like there's a curse and what
happens is that a bean is following you
and it changes bodies it could be people
you know it could be complete strangers
it just follows you it just walks up to
you if it touches you pretty slowly to
death it can only walk so if you drive
for a day until that time it takes to
walk and it doesn't set up where the
curse came from it just starts off cold
curse this is how it goes it changes
bodies every 24 hours no it just changes
bodies whenever randomly randomly just
spooky so really tall men old ladies
children your father okay and the movie
just kind of it's not possessing people
it's just it just looks like it just
looks like to fool you and like a guy
transfers it to your main character and
he goes I'm really sorry I had to do
this I needed to get it off me this is
the only way to transfer it someone gave
it to me just deal with it he runs out
of the scene and then the girls like
just lives her life so sometimes no
characters in the scene see it but you
do and then it just transitions to the
next scene sometimes it's way in the
background I was like I like this a lot
it's and sometimes it plays with the
amount of people that are on screen
there's a group of teens that they're
helping out the girl right and then you
see all them on a beach you see a girl
way in the background and you're like is
that the monster and then you see another
guy that walks out of the scene goes
towards there and we're like oh no
that's just the girl but then you see
them on the beach and you see that girl
that you thought was in the background
was in an inner tube in the water and
you go this doesn't add up that's an
extra person and then the scene cuts to
the the girl that walked in the
background and it's about to grab the
main character this is awesome it can
play with your expectations and then
after that point the movie it starts to
get dumb and silly how like it's
invisible but it's there it people can
fight it and punch it and shoot it but
the main character that's cursed is the
only one that can see it and I was like
oh I thought it was like a spirit or a
ghost so there's invisible fights but
when you describe it like grabbing
shit and whatever like does it the it
when it touches you it wins and you're
dead there's only one scene where you see
what it does to a person when it actually
wins I'm not going to say that but it's
bad it's it's pretty bad and and what I
said before we goes she goes we got us
find some way to solve this and I haven't
seen it in a couple of hours so I don't
know let's drive over there so they're
backing out of their driveway and the
girl looks up and sees this naked guy on
the roof staring at him with this big
schlong and she's like oh well we got
out at the right time they just drive
away like why is he on the roof next
because he was that close to getting in
because one thing you can do is put
traps on your windows because it needs
to physically break into your house to
get it to get to you so people put
bottles hanging on the side I want to
read all the rules then it starts the
why I don't like it is that some people
said like in red letter media they
explained a little bit more they do they
do but I was like I don't like these
rules because then they start throwing
the rules and then when they say this
how you transfer the curse the girl
seems to do things that indicate that
she's transferring it but they don't
show it to you and then she's just
driving away and then like I felt like
a scene was cut and I was like okay what
are the rules now I don't get it and
then it ends on a non-ending and I was
like it's kind of it's a great premise
horror with rules is fun so that no
shit yeah that's great thing about this
whole movie in all its premise is that
when I saw it and I saw the trailer so
red letter media break it down I watched
no trailer going and all I can think of
is that this is a real movie version of
Slenderman yeah and the extremely slow
murder with an incredibly inefficient
weapon yes which is that guy with the
fucking spoon that chases that dude all
over the earth yeah at an incredibly
slow pace and just smack some of the
spoon and I can't like as cool as this
thing is all I can see is these two like
joke things combined into a real movie
but often when this monster is just a
naked person like that person happened
to be sleeping naked and got the
monster decided to become that person
you just see a naked person walking
slowly you start to sweat you start to
sweat just a little bit is that a monster
why is no one reacting to that naked
guy and then oftentimes they're like
where is it where is they're like shoot
over there so it's like so when it
became that I kind of checked out a
little bit right but the naked guy roof
next level I'm really just sitting in
the movie theater like whooping and
clapping you never done that before
yeah aside from that like we talked
about at the start we got some time in
a Mortal Kombat X and I've just been
trying to get into that but yeah other
than that like that that's it's all I
can think of actually this week so what
about you blame did you see Matt the
new Terminator Genesis trailer I did
two-in-a-bit minute one it's on the
dock it looks so good I can't do it look
amazing and whether it's all gonna come
together great who knows but I'm really
excited to see it alright we can talk
about it now see it it there's a
twist that they they throw again so you
know the main twist send them back but
then there's already a terminal waiting
for you yeah yeah there's a double
twist on double so remember there was an
Asian Terminator another another
Terminator wow yeah so who is this other
other Terminator spoilers alert if you
try to avoid the trailer try to avoid
anything yeah future adult John Connor
and he's like a super Terminator who's
like a person but a machine as well
teamed up with Skynet and he's and he's
like the personality to help humans
survive now here's the problem what does
that remind you a lot of Matt the main
character fucking Terminator
McG edition I mean right McG edition
Australian yeah that fucking shitty
was a cyborg with a heart third wheel
that gets thrown in Terminator on the
Bobby for the capacity from long he
wasn't a third wheel Terminator salvation
he was the only wheel because there was
nothing else going on in this boat has
no way that sounds that that Genesis
twist the double twist sounds a lot like
that okay looks a lot like so if we
have a double twist that's in the god
damn trailer there's gonna be a triple
twist I hope so like fucking Abe
Lincoln's gonna come out like if this
were if we were 10 years ago maybe but
now we live in an age where it's like no
fuck you all the spoilers get in the
theater yeah usually the thing with
Terminator is they usually have one
sort of twist in Terminator one it's not
clear which guy is trying it's not clear
who's doing what it's not clear what
Kyle Reese is doing it's only when he
actually finds Sarah and says come with
me do you want I'm here to protect you
up until that point you don't know what
other guy wants yeah both want to kill
Sarah turn into is of course up until
the whole way this is get down and
shoots the team 1000 you go oh he's
protected yeah that's the turner three
it's just like the twist is towards the
end right yeah okay totally pointless
and then this it's like there's three
twists within the trailer yeah it's a
little much I'm excited to see it
quadruple twist I still hate the actor
I want to see Amelia Clark play Sarah
because she looks like Sarah a little
bit a little but no I hate all the
actors except that's never gonna see it
come in at the end from the future and
be like oh Kyle Reese from the double
future but J Jonah Jameson plays the
psychiatrist oh does that's a pretty
like if they couldn't get the guy
that's a pretty good role to play like
the but he believes Sarah within the
first like encounter within the first
yeah he sees a terminal right so he
replies his role from the rule from law
and order sort of yeah yeah yeah I guess
that that's true I wonder how that
happens because is the summer is the
summer is on yeah this does moon blood
good Joe up or common oh come on yeah
common you're right you're right you say
common oh come on no you're right he
was the dude in the god that scene where
they're in the desert and the shitty
stupid thing can't detect them right in
front of them because it's dark out but
fucking seconds later they go into a
hut and detect everyone in the dark see
that quote from Schwarzenegger just
recently he goes I'm glad I wasn't in
salvation it sucked period nice and then
I end up like he won the snow that was
his body like he could have doubled
if you wanted to they just did you
notice that right afterwards they
asked him which is your favorite
terminator because they want him to say
Genesis even though it's gonna be wrong
yeah and he goes to choose that was a
rocky that's I was a rocky by accident
it's how to choose yeah that's a that's
a politician's answer yeah yeah what I
know it's not it is kind of a
hard to choose for some people no it's
not that's insane I'm sorry you're
both do terminator two is my favorite
movie of all time I'm not convincing me
but imagine him he acted in both of
the hard choice I but those are both
really wrong because it's a man to me
so I mean right it's my favorite by far
but as overall films I watched Terminator
one the other night just because I was
saying you like it better there's things
I like the Terminator in Terminator one
more than the Terminator in Terminator
two he's cooler as a cool villain and
he's scary in that whereas Terminator two
kind of made the template of it's goofy
he's a fish out of water story as an
action movie yeah as an action movie it's
by far better like in the chief of the
budget they had for Terminator one is
like more impressive to me than Terminator
two some of the bits like when the
Terminator goes to the police yeah it's
just the same movie that's probably the
best part of Terminator one and it's
beats a lot and I think Kyle Reese is
the coolest he's cooler than John Conn
he's just solid snake he's just solid
snake but he's also all all do this all
sacrifice myself to I don't know if
it's gonna work I'm gonna fight a
robot with nothing but my balls
what about the trunks hair dude who's
better better for him to pick that that's
a tough choice yeah Bill Paxton is in
Terminator one yeah also Shao Khan is
in Terminator one it's true everyone's
racing to think of what the fuck I'm
talking about I don't know each the guy
that played Shao Khan Terminator saw
in turn of Terminator Salvation played
Shao Khan in Salvation Mortal Kombat
Annihilation was one of the other punks
with Bill Paxton oh okay yeah you know
that weird thing with the baby face
it's like Shao Khan's a cool guy and he
takes the skull mask off
and he has a Rey Mysterio baby face
that's a great D-roll
Rey Mysterio has a baby face
damn and plus the final scene in Terminator
one like it's amazing like just the
Terminator crawling terminated fucker I
read in a book though the entire reason
James Cameron even thought about this
he's like I was sleeping I in Rome I in
an alley because I had no money and I
had was under a super fever and in my
dream all I dreamt of was a metal endoskeleton
crawling out of the fire and I started
writing the next day to build something
around that image but then that's all
that goes up against shotgun Sarah and
the entire fucking factory no of course
I this is a terrible battle that goes
up against like skeleton holding on to
which to this day is the vision of my
nightmares you know and miles breathing
of course and the fucking one of the
sickest oh yeah miles living is like
it's so good ah you know why so many
truckers get owned in the Terminator
franchise so many truckers get their
trucks stolen from them
James Cameron worked as a trucker
and he's just like I need to get truckers
wouldn't it be goofy if they killed me
in my own movie because when you do
Alien vs. Aliens you're talking about
it's very similar it's like a clash of
go themes and goals absolutely the
movies want to do different things I
find the first Terminator is a horror
movie and the second Terminator is an
action alien alien and much like alien
and alien alien and aliens is re1 and
re4 yeah good yeah horror and action
okay anything else yeah I played
through Monster Bag which was a game I
was looking forward to last week and I
couldn't define the genre yeah you ever
have a lot so like it's a weird like 2d
stealth thing what but you're super on
rails and so it's more about timing like
your movements and stuff what's the
monster really neat you're a backpack
but you're a monster your little blue
box with the little arms that sounds
stupid you're a little girl's backpack
monster are you are you the are you
Dora the explorers backpack no it's a
cooler girl so you're chasing after her
wait what oh come on come on Diego's
way cool so you chase after this this
your your role in a whole game and you
end up like causing the end of the
world and stuff and it spirals out of
control Dora's not her his mom no but
the Diego had been created without Dora
yeah doesn't make him unless that makes
him the new hot I just think you I like
the spin-off character more than the
original yeah he's straight up so that's
why I like Joey better than friends
yeah good for you Pat that's the dumbest
thing any fucking nuke the entire yeah
that in one smooth that was kind of my
way I get what you're doing trying to
help you Matt it didn't work oh no it's
got like some like really intense like
cartoony violence the kind of stuff you'd
see in like invader invader Zim and
stuff but even further than that like
way bloodier more bodies exploding and
stuff and it just goes totally out of
control like from the first level where
you're just sneaking through a bus stop
like through people's bags to the last
level where you're like stopping
apocalypse shit from happening so it's
kind of like ghost trick a little with
light but there's the story is told
entirely without text and stuff I still
have like a really hard time understanding
this game it's a gfps plus it's free
yeah I don't really I couldn't really
advocate buying it because it's
incredibly short but it's I think it's
worth it go if you have ps plus at least
it's a new game other than that I played
a lot more bloodborne I was telling you
the other day I was frustrated that I
had to do game plus yeah I was bummed
that I did and I told you that the
solution I usually do is just do new
game not you get plus I said fuck it
I'm gonna do you can't plus so I'm like
two-thirds of the way through new game
plus now it's fucking great I wish I
wish the enemy arrangements were
different is this the first game plus
you've done on our from soft game no I
think he does well them for demons I
did it three times I did new game plus
plus until until I couldn't beat any
more okay cuz they get a 20% because
they scale incredibly high and you
start getting and then we start hitting
the statistical maximum yeah it's just
a numbers game they just multiply the
variable yes pretty much and your levels
start capping out yeah I can't do more
damage so I agree it's no way man the
best ones like the first time through
like enemies game like a 40% raw
strength increase which offsets it
perfectly so you go back to the new
game and then after it's not 40% on new
game plus yeah ten but then it's ten
again and ten again and ten again and
eventually you cap your stats like
greatest gradients you get to the
asteroid level on high loops and it's
like there are no spaces in between the
asteroids literally impossible there's
none yeah exactly that reminds me just
really quickly I forgot to mention I
did play a bunch of blood borne myself
yeah here's my best way to sum it up my
fiance leaves to go work all day for like
seven hours and she goes can you make
sure to just do all the dishes oh snap
and I say and I say sure okay then she
leaves by love you by love you I start
playing blood borne and then she comes
right back in and says divorce alright
did you do the dishes I'm like you just
left yeah I did seven hours ago and I
go because I had a long string like I
did the second boss which I told you
that I lucked out on that right he was
getting hung up and all the G all the
second form when he was like 10%
health he got real lucky that's good
when I beat him like that was like the
first try to get to I was thinking
about leaving the game on for the boss
gets stuck in a thing's whale on him
master x-race represent it's
unquestionably good I don't think
anyone's gonna fight that it's but I
like the Kirkhammer better I like it
I like quite a bit but we got some
combos going with that charged our two
well there's a lot of depth to these
goddamn yeah definitely it's really
cool what a good ass it's so good but
like playing it in new game plus like
there's like some quirks that are
bothering me more and more working
we tell like the loading never bothered
me the load times just never really
bothered me that much but but stuff like
not being able to warp from lantern to
lantern yeah like in the other souls
game is and that yeah that feels like a
technical limitation I sincerely hope
it is because it doesn't there doesn't
feel like an artistic design reason for
design no excuse the way Dark Souls
one handled it is there were tons of on
well there were tons of offers maybe 50
bonfires yeah but you can only tell
you're more shortcutty yeah but you can
only teleport to like 12 of those
bonfires mm-hmm you can teleport to those
bonfires or any bonfire which is all
that matters you don't have to do to
load and all of them would be like
centralized location at the same time
if you went from one lantern to another
and you don't heal by a teleporting
that's the others when you go to a
lantern it should refill your blood
vials and quick silver bullets there's
no reason for it not to they wanted it
huh oh are you caught me I was sleeping
yeah enjoy this loading screen
right the world's ending oh shit yeah
yeah I don't know yeah like just little
convenience is like that that's designed
though that's clearly like pushing you
forward but why because I can just go
kill myself and refill them why can't I
just go back like I can do the warp and
they wanted to be a little harder but
that doesn't there's no good reason
you can waste your time to there's no
good there exactly like that I should
be able to just restore by going back
but that's the cost time ballot like
like equation that you know it's bullshit
it's wasting my time like I'd be nice
if they had that and the teleporting as
they did but yeah so like there's a
couple things like that did you catch
the did any of you guys catch the that
awesome video like of a dude fighting a
boss I'm not gonna say which but it's
one that Pat you and I have seen already
and is about to die and then right on
the last hit his note gets raided and he
gets a little sick like his body is in
the air dude oh your note got raided it
is like oh you got your back and then he
uses that burst and you go kill the boss
sick it was nuts a friend of a friend of
mine you know him you sent me a video he
recorded off his ps4 of like one of the
last bosses where he was fighting he was
fighting this guy and it was really tough
fight and he was losing losing pretty
bad and the last boss charges up on his
biggest attack and he does it my friend
avoids and the boss just goes way out of
the arena and just dies oh wow yeah like
immediately he just flies out of the
arena and dies yeah there's a bunch of
videos floating around of gas going
doing his Blanca ball straight out of
the gas coin you guys can correct this
but a fan said to me just today they're
like Willie in the latest Bloodborne
Willie and Pat mentioned we saw this on
Matt's stream they might be mistaken
saying that but like the only way I'm
streaming bloodborne is no I I we said
Max's I often screw it up and say the
wrong name but it also is also just
sounds similar yeah Max because I've
been streaming bloodborne just on
Twitter on Twitter you're tweeting
about this old lady yielded me oh like
like people when you used all your
Madman's knowledge yeah 20 day right
before it's gonna right before it's
gonna actually really affect my game
yeah no way isn't keep classic LP's
text only
yeah it's true about plays you want a
good classic LP moment go read like
sight and who's a key is an asshole
over at something awful and I really
thought when people were like hey I'm
going into all the Arnhem and everyone's
like watch over the gallon gun ha ha
and I was like yeah it's a funny joke and
then my immediate tweet after I thought
you guys were kidding about yeah there's
a piece of a sparrow mittens really
worried your characters just like I'm
like should I be going here
I wasn't even trying to be funny when a guy
told me don't you might want to turn
back is he actually telling me like
you're not properly leveled come back
or just this is just flavor text to make
you out from software games of this
type when somebody tells you to get the
fuck out of there they will attempt to
make you and they certainly did because
I don't like I'll come back probably the
best one ever is the Dark Souls one
version Priscilla mm-hmm where she says
get the fuck out just leave and point at
the door and you could just leave my
favorite my favorite was a maiden
astrea and when you attack her because
you want her tail weapon she's why why
are you doing yeah me alone well the
fuck is wrong again and yeah and Garl
Vinland where Garl standing there and
he's like leave right I'm gonna stop and
like she's just fucking touch her and
then it's just touching you is just
saying like she's like we're not
bothering anyone yeah just get out of
here that's one thing I remarked about in
the playthrough is that like so far
there hasn't been any enemies like the
um hide nights from DS2 where it's like
not the ones that you fight in the
tower of flame but the dudes just sit
around mm-hmm and they never ever
aggro until you start yeah I like that
idea I'm not bothering anybody I'm
doing my thing but fuck if you want to
fight let's go some of the alliance is
changing a stuff like Jura the guy with
the Gatling gun yeah like he's trying to
protect all the creatures from you and
from the other hunters yeah and and like
his alliance can change depending on what
you do so there's what I tried fighting
them twice just because people are like
you can't he can knock him off yeah just
sprint up to him when you climb the
ladder quickly and hit right off and
then just double blunder bust okay
get him kick him over that's the other
thing that might disappoint you but I
talked to Willie about this because when
you guys fought that like gigantic
stupid pig yeah sewers you're like oh
this is so this kill is so for Matt Matt
would love this kill and I didn't get
that when I fought the pig I just
charged my like heart strike and the
pig just died straight up splatter house
straight up splatter house it's just
perfect yeah when I saw that pig for the
first time I there's literally might in
the game those were my first nope moment
you saw him down the hallway yeah I saw
and I was like nah that's a biggie
picking that's not even a hard enemy
because I killed it I'll kill the one
shot like you just have to make a
mistake he does a shit makes me
unreasonably happy to hear that you're
enjoying bloodborne because I went
around and behind them yeah there's some
fun guys like seeing people get into
this kind of game that is hard to get
into it I'm just like ah I played it
longer than any souls game well the
tone the change of setting helps you
enormously you're telling me you guys
like oh yeah well just go to an area
and you're like dude you're gonna love
this and I was like why because you take
like this to get there I was like oh
it's awesome the method of transport to
get there evokes a certain other you go
to Castlevania only with the baby
whether just yeah I know you and Matt's
like why don't I get you go to
Castlevania and I was like he's like okay
and I'm like and you ride a carriage to
get there he's like zombie horses it's
so old finding the like finding how to
get there yeah fucking best we had a
bit of an event a little bit of a funny
funny thing about that shape that video
okay that for three anything else I
just why you being generous just the
doll is the best helper girl in any of
this she's my favorite she's up top
she's she's one point above made in
black on a 100 point scale I like her
better she's got like a lot more flavor
text I like her accent and I like her
clothing you know yes we know can you
can oh wow can you wear all of it yeah
that sounds even the interest even the
gross but but if you have but if you're
save files garbage and you're not using
it for anything else just sell it all
because it's worth so much you know what
I don't think we're gonna do it
yeah video games a good video game I
can't wait for more DLC yeah can't wait
it seems obvious that because a lot of
the parts of the game are like just
completely separated out like have no
basis in reality of location or
geography yeah so you could easily just
say hey there's a fucking portal here
that takes you to the DLC land yeah
exactly like like in the last game and
then like everything is just like stand
here for a while and then you just
teleport and go transparent into some
other place yeah yeah you know it doesn't
matter what you're standing in or
touching just go DS1 had the most
absurd way to get to its DLC but I
think it was like the coolest that's
why it's so cool yeah one instance where
I'm like for DLC I think from soft force
should take a tiny cue from Capcom
specifically dragons dogma and just put
like actual berserk shit and like guts
hair like if from now you're just
released like a straight-up berserk game
like if you know what they should do like
I would remember the fast and the furious
fours of seven thing yeah what no
oh my god do that they should do that
for berserk just one area and what two
bosses yeah you knew what you do you just
do the area where the anime starts where
he fights the snake lord and then like
just like flash forward to god outside
go into a mansion fight the boss walk up
to the gate and then like there's a sign
on the ground to summon Griffith to fight
Zod with you and then you stab Griffith
in the back I mother fucker you can't
rationalize that there's no money for
that like fast and furious it was like
we have a big movie that's gonna shadow
records maybe maybe if all the berserk
movies were coming out like now maybe
even dragon's dogma got it shot yeah
and that's it anyway that game's great
oh the chalice dungeons are pretty good
too they're all right they're all right
they're content they're you can play them
they are playable they're all right yeah
they're not as good as I hoped but I had
expectations way lower than my
expectations dude my expectations were
really low for the child these these are
my exact expectation well there's like
remixed boxes and shit right there are
different bosses a little like some of
them are different bosses that are just
regular enemies from those channels
dungeons yeah groups okay some of them
is just like oh here's this story boss
in a different shaped room you know so
okay it's it's cool I had this one
child's dungeon where I got like
absurdly outclassed when I went from one
depth to another and like it was a
fucking lot to talk about the specific
type of enemy but you're not that far
in the game yeah don't do that but like
you only ever encounter one of them at
a time in the story there's no way to
encounter two at once as far as I know
and there were eight in this room and
there were three enemies I'd never seen
before there was a bad guy a really
strong bad guy okay there was a really
strong like sword guy who you find in
those things okay there was a bellmaiden
summoning got like this was just on
another level and I could not compete
I could not come back later yeah yeah
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thank you guys are working magic
you're working magic but yeah um as far
as my week goes uh more front mission
three what is there to say it's a
fucking amazing that's all there is to
that
this is playing a game we with our
updates about that game turned into that
yeah after a while cuz I'm playing it
I'm peering off on Monster Hunter I'm
like all the way at the end it's like
I'm kind of well maybe this week
something else
Monster Hunter related is gonna get you
excited maybe but yeah but no also a
weird moment you know what happened I
finished off that show kids on the slope
and yeah you like that and I really did
that's good and you know it of course
follows some like tropes that go along
with no drama you don't say yeah but it
avoids a bunch of them by having
characters that aren't idiots okay that's
like one of the good thing one of the
huge is fucking stupid tropes in like
teenage love story is western or
eastern doesn't matter where every
single problem could be solved by
people sitting down and having one
kind of having a simple and like more
importantly usually a simple dumb
misunderstanding becomes a multi episode
you just just talk just talk it out
just say the thing you can well we're
out of Game of Thrones no no it was
life is strange no no yes but also when
we were playing when we were playing
yeah that's awesome then you're like this
situation can be avoided by someone
saying literally anything if you guys
want to see this exact concept blown out
into a full-length episode of a show to
show how the absurdity go track down the
season 3 Louie episode in which Louie
goes on vacation and cannot figure out
if this young man is hitting on yes
that was great that was great they are
having a breakup and neither of them
knows whether or not the other is gay
or into that were we just hanging out
or was this so confusing and because
they just won't say it yeah both of
them walk away just unsure as to what
actually that was a fantastic episode
but before I forget by the way because
someone just mentioned life is strange
I checked it took us 10 minutes to get
all the bottles including all the cut
scenes we didn't skip okay like I don't
know where you got lost in that one I
don't know what it was a fifth bottle
and I know yeah and some people in the
comments like China didn't wet fuck that
bottle I agree sure but you know and
but there's more worship beyond that
that was that was problem number one
yeah actually no but it was the last
problem no don't lie on those train
tracks no oh yeah get the fuck off that
stupid train track why are we still
shooting after you I saw you die why
can't I just tell you that I saw you die
and that this is a bad idea why are you
giving me shit for pulling the trigger
when I know that I saw that let me
answer my fucking phone like there's
so much for it and go back in time if
that'll make you feel better really
you're making me want to play life is
strange I don't know what the fuck you're
talking about that sounds goofy all of
this shit is like I've seen the future
you know I can see the future and tell
you what's better and you're still
giving me shit for it yeah because that's
what this is fine as long as it's just
containing just this episode just tight
keep it in there don't like life is
strange the next one looks like a
strange yeah out into a point like we
need to save the president because the
next episode looks like a survival
horror episode I hope that's oh the
Dehaka's after I haven't tapped out but
I'm just disappointed no for sure you
can't tap out in these games you can't
warren yeah warren the Dehaka yeah
exactly but but no as far as kids on
the slope yeah you've got you've got
that that dumb thing was like oh
misunderstanding main girl accidentally
thinks that main guy is not into
someone else and it's like this could
become an entire fucking arc and then
main character goes no fuck this I'm
just gonna tell you exactly what
happened good and it's like oh yes
thank you done thank you right not
wasting my time great um have you seen
a school rumble buddy okay do you
remember the girl with the green hair
with that like what her whole deal is
she's really sarcastic and dry and her
whole deal is she walks in on an
embarrassing compromising position
rubro this isn't what it looks like and
everyone goes oh no and she goes oh I
understand what happened you tripped and
fell and her pants kind of down and so
it looks like you guys are totally
having sex and stuff and creepy but it's
not you guys had I get it no no problem
cool as you were seen and like that's it
I love that and just deconstruct the
stupid tropes so this has that that's
pretty good in the show of course
yako kana music is all I love how
you want to be doing its thing if you
like classic old jazz and funk and
stuff you have some good times at that
okay recommended 13 episodes I forgot
that I watched something I completely
forgot so I watched I watched three
episodes of Gintama oh what do you
think of it the first three yeah I
think I did I'm not super sure what
happened did you get up did you get an
ice cream the very very get an ice cream
in the in the first one no because you're
you're watching the new shit then no
I'm not I'm watching all but you're
watching because you want to get to the
part right no Gintama's just great
because there's a part where they I
had the bullshit between anime and
that's the reason and that's the main
thing no it's the first episode starts
off as in like everything settled and
it's like last time on but it's episode
fucking one and then the second episode
is a flashback to things that haven't
happened that's I think you're watching
new shit are you watching Haruhi no
because that sounds like a root because
as far as I remember the first episode
involves him getting an ice cream and
throwing it at a cat man the first
episode that I saw was about like a
goddamn earthquake machine yeah no
you're at the like I'm pretty sure a new
season just started and I think you're
not it's old you know there's like a
punch all right all right
to answer your question I don't know if
I like this show or not it's so fucking
weird and Japanese it really is just
non-stop Japanese puns you just do this
cold yeah okay totally calls I think I'm
gonna watch Gintama oh okay okay
it's fucking weird is it good maybe it's
supposed to be good is it bad then the
Gintama alarm is on yeah did you catch
the joke nobody with naturally wavy
hair can possibly be that bad yes yes
so you must be at the beginning yes
but like earthquake machine I don't
remember that at all it's been a lot of
episodes dogs like hundreds of episodes
160 yeah which is only you man dude it's
a really good show is it I don't even
know and I'm not saying like yeah I'm
not saying like oh I don't like it I'm
like I can't I have no ability to judge
this I think it's really funny more
research is required it's not like shown
an anime level animation but it's quite
funny okay yeah yeah watch the the
girdlegan movies with again with the
girlfriend just to show that stuff yeah
man like I that I hate I absolutely
hate when people do the thing because I
got it a lot done to me where you're
watching a thing and person that's
next to you looking at you to see your
reaction did you do this thing I have I
found myself starting to do it and then
I stopped but right I believe you've
been there was the one that mattered
which is the last thing that happens in
the second movie yeah right is like I
didn't have to because I could see the
movement yeah jumping up and down from
the corner of my eye that's a hell of
a fucking tag on man there you go
confirmed that's a good tone setter yeah
yeah but what's your reaction to this
oh yeah oh get out I watched a whole
lot of game of thrones what a lot of
game so the new season started in new
season started that's correct some what
yeah I watched a portion of it yeah
there's content to be to be watched
more than you would think so I don't know
anything about game of thrones in modern
now but like the reaction I'm seeing is
not very positive no I disagree the
things that I want to happen are
happening slowly but surely and I I of
what I've watched I'm not particularly
enthusiastic about word anything is
except for Ari I'm happy because the
characters I like are getting more
awesome and the characters I hate are
getting shit you know everything with
Tyrion is made up yeah I know that there
was every time you see a scene with
Tyrion that doesn't exist based on the
books you mean yes oh yeah they were
already worried in that world we're
too late not an entire story no but
there's there's a time I don't want to
say anything with it for these guys
say thank you and there's a ton is also
but there's a ton of shit that we're
already invested in that that's made I
so I think why not just roll with it
little bits and pieces we can't pick at this
for a bit there'll be fiction in this
fiction yeah the it appears that the
comments that I was reading are from
people that are like you guys did a
good job of the first three seasons but
now you've gone too far okay did they
like just jump to the skeleton wars no
no that would be awesome but um
poilers I don't know like you know the
show continues to follow Jackson's
different parties of characters doing
their things yeah some of these
storylines are converging some of them
are separating but the ones that are
cool are getting better and the ones
that's all it's like season one I
remember I was watching with somebody and
I pointed out that since I read the
first book like any scene that does not
involve these seven characters is
completely manufactured because all the
kid the book is written from points of
view and if none of these seven
characters are in the scene it's
completely new yeah and and Matt brought
up that that means that the goddamn
season one scene where a lambster dad is
cutting that dare open is gone and that
scene is like the best it's all I'm
trying to get at is that like if there
are differences it's like it's not like
this is the for the start of the
difference but I know but here you want to point out
that that interior thing is made up is
because the book this is based on is
where the series like in some people's
eyes just he doesn't know what he's
doing anymore he's writing in
circles nothing's happening we're going
to hate Daenerys and of the scenes I
saw with Daenerys I'm like you're the
worst did they get to do anything this
is embarrassing but that's part of one
thing that's part of one thing but no
but I can totally see how you can if
you're like I'm a bit you really like
Daenerys then like that's what you're
not happy with what's happening you
want to do the cool thing but you know
but but that's because the character is
flawed and that's why that's awesome
that's not I don't I don't see what's
happening there is bad writing I'm seeing
what's what's going on with her as her
flaws coming out because of the
circumstances she's in that's good so
what that reminds me of is when we had
the thing in college where we showed
berserk to a bunch of people and a lot
of people like came at us
negative ending what a terrible show
yeah I know this show sucks because it
ended badly and like no and like I was
crying how could you do this this shows
terrible it's like the fact that you were
crying that you gave a shit yeah and
that you cared which makes you don't
like it exactly the manga and that's not
gonna make it better if you want that
passion to continue but but you know in
this case it's like Daenerys is a
character that like flourishes with
momentum and when that moment when that
momentum stops she fucking doesn't have
it anymore and that's great for an ease
for president but that's all I'm gonna
say and like when the next time we'll
probably talk about it is maybe on a
spoiler cast perhaps me and Liam will leave
the room yeah and I know I love it too
much and now I need to binge it all at
once and like and what I'm like what I'm
thinking of is especially like I went
a little bit deeper than where you
stopped so there's more of that and I
gotta be careful they can't diverge too
much because say say character X is dealt
with or removed from the story not
killed but just like whatever yeah in
the show because they're not really
exciting and their side stories in the
book isn't really exciting if book 6
comes out and that becomes like core
oh yeah they can have fucked themselves
real bad I imagine George knows that
yeah George because there is a
character like that that the final fate
of this character is super different in
both things and you don't know how that's
gonna play out in the future George can
you not use this character in the future
yeah I got it yeah and he right now he
says he's trying to wrap up the latest
book by 2016 but he's mulling over a
really drastic twist type change oh wow
okay and he thinks it's super cool but
not takes place in a computer he's not
sure what it is commit to it book 6 is
the time to do that like of seven just
book 6 is like guess what we're in the
future why just like bam star ocean go
yeah it's like aria pulls up digs into a
grave and finds a terminator
Game of Thrones, Game of Thrones, Shippuden
and Game of Boruto
Ultimate Boruto, fuck!
Are you excited for a storm revolution?
Are you gonna watch Boruto?
So Boruto is the worst name
and the logo?
But I love how terrible it sounds
yeah it describes how shit the thing
you're watching is
Welcome to Boruto Shippuden!
Just a poop with a ninja band on it
House of Cards continues to be excellent
Talk about Boruto
No you know how Helen Mirren is the hottest
old woman ever? Yes
Okay well
Helen Mirren unquestionably
Is Raquel Wells still alive?
Unquestionable there is no debating
Raquel Wells was hot as fuck on Seinfeld
Carrie Underwood is fucking
Carrie Underwood sorry
Robin Wright?
Yeah is number two
for as far as like the age bracket
going down a bit
From being in Princess Bride
to now
Because Helen Mirren is like 70
and she's rocking it
Fuck Robin Wright
Sorry Robin is like probably
50 something or so
and it's like the next tier
But like holy shit man
Give her another 10 years
See what happens
The abmed will probably still be all together
Who knows? It's getting tighter
And it's drying up
It's like a grape
turning into a raisin
That's what happens to old people
And then you get wine from that shit
Buddy you get the stomp it first
What is this analogy
The darkened of Barry to see the juice
Oh god damn it
I bet the girl in the red hat
on the raisin box is pretty hot nowadays
Which one?
The little girl at the red hat
Oh from that from the old
On the raisin box
What about the Land of the Lakes Butter Lady
No idea
I know you're really into California raisins
My mom was
I like the California raisins
She collected t-shirts
You know there's a new movie coming out
Hey you want to talk about the new movie coming out
You motherfuckers see the trailer
for the new Air Bud
Not yet
Is it called Air Bud
Or is it a part of the like
franchise of animals
Son of Air Bud
It's Air Bud whatever
The Scorpion King 7 Air Bud
It's where
The land before Air Bud
The reason I thought of this is because you mentioned
people getting super old
and I'm like
Air Bud must have died a long time ago
and I recently found out
in the topic about this trailer
that Air Bud died after Air Bud won
What
All subsequent Air Buds have been different
It's the same for Beethoven
Although that
Frasier Wishbone Dog
That's the same one
So here's the deal
The new Air Bud movie
is about Luchadors
Oh I saw that
Jack Russell Terrier
Where he's fighting fucking
Grant Morrison for the title
The trailer for that was in front of Bikero 6
I thought you were going to say that
Air Buds descendants are in the animus
and they're like looking at
the other lives of other Air Buds
It makes no sense
because in the trailer you see people doing
top rope body drops onto a dog
Like every one of these things is murder
The thing with a dog is
Would a dog tap?
You have to teach the dog
If a dog never gives up
It's one of those super long
trailers for babies
and it shows the whole story
The dog is a little
Reese's Monkey as a manager
And then they get to the turn
The turn in the second act
Where the villain
So Air Bud gets to the
It's a title shot against a human being
You're not mentioning tag
teamed with a little boy
He was fighting adults
and the champ
looks at the crowd
and heals it up
and pulls out a dog whistle
and Air Bud falls over
and then the villain
does like a fucking 540
frogs
and then the next scene
It's like you're just crap
Maybe the champ cheated
Well you will never get another title shot
Dude
It is unbelievable
It is unbelievable
Like they're just throwing wrestling
as the sport
reinvigorated life
They throw back stages
What do you think about that Air Bud
If they just throw the mic in the dog's face
He's like
Oh that's a bold statement
If you have not been
familiar with the way
The dog comes out with the Terminator mascot
You haven't been familiar
with the way that the Air Bud movies work
They CG the dog's face
and mouth
So that it just fucking talks
Because it's magic
Imagine it's like two old dogs
They had a game spin-off called Air Buddies
and it was the kids
That was Dreck
This is gonna be Oscar 40
I just
I don't think I've seen first
Two old dogs and one's kind of balding
on the top and they're just fighting
Oh we can't do this anymore
I always thought it was a total lack of nerve
when they decided to do hockey
They did basketball and then football
They're like let's do hockey
And soccer too I think
Yeah they get to hockey
and they're like how the fuck are we gonna record
a dog with a stick
And they're like put it make it a monkey
So it's a god dammit
At this point it's wrestling or golf
So golf's doable
I just CG that dog
And these things come out
and you have to
They become
platinum Walmart status
Because they sell
like crazy off of that fucking
rotata bin
DVD rack
All the kids man
This dog is doing wrestling
Wow! And I bet every single movie
has like there's nothing in the rule books
as a dog can play
I bet you could go through all the movies
and just adjust their script
to be identical
Except for this school
I bet you could go through all the movies
and create a unified timeline
How many non-signed
wrestlers are showing up in this movie
How many T&A stars
Yeah yeah
It's like all these dogs then commit
suicide or take overdosing pills
later or their hearts give out
in the middle of the ring
They suffer all the same things like human wrestling
Dogs dying at two and a half
Yeah exactly
It's such a bright career ahead of them
It's cut too short
Or two rival dogs
The laser caught driving a car
or a bunch of drug paraphernalia
The weirdest diva that you ever saw
Let's not all forget that the Air Bud series
was created because the Air Bud dog
is stupid as fuck
and tries to catch basketball
in its mouth
Some Greyhound is just doing yoga
to help the others survive
Oh no someone took an SUV
and ran over Air Bud
Who was it?
You never see the fucking behind the scenes
Now they get the goddamn footage
of the dog sinking baskets
We just throw the basketball
at the dog
and it tries to bite it
and we film it so many times
that eventually it's going to go in the basket
Wow
Just CG the ball
This was like 94
It would look terrible
Alright
We spent way too much time talking about it
Did we?
Did we though?
Yeah we did
It's my fault
As we get into the news
I need to recognize the hero of the year
of this podcast
as far as I'm concerned
No but we're pushing him nonetheless
Okay
So the headline here is
Mayor sued after blowing
budget on giant robot statue
Now
Which country?
This is not the country I thought it was
What am I looking at?
In Turkey
A Turkish politician
who's been the mayor of Ankara since 1994
is currently being sued
after unveiling a 20 foot tall metal robot
in the city
and it's a fucking zaku
It's just a Gundam Zaku
He did what needed to be done
and he didn't give a fuck
I thought it was going to be a statue of Hakkan
No
Hakkan's not a robot
He took the budget
He saw Odaiba Gundam
and just said no
We need this
and I don't care what anyone else says
and had it made
That's a real life Ben from Parks and Rec
making Ice Town
Breaking news Indonesian governor
blows like a pension
fund on giant Kalmana statue
But here's
why you gotta respect it
Because this isn't that fucking idiot
that made whatever mod
for whatever game that gets shut down
in the process
You don't ask for permission
You ask for forgiveness
He got it done, he pulled the curtain off
and that's when everyone lost their shit
He can quit now, his life's done
He did it
If Willy was to become a mayor
and erects a giant statue of knighthood
overlooking ability
He'd tell everyone when it was done
He wouldn't even tell anyone
He'd just leave it there and let people find it
There's other shit I'd blow the money on
but yeah
I don't know if I like that
or if it's just like
they were just building the thing the whole time
in the middle of like town square
and like nobody questioned it
and then it was like
by the way this cost 80 bajillion dollars
It's like the government's putting up
affordable housing for hundreds
and it's like skyscraper
and then on the last day he cuts the thing
and the skyscraper falls away
and there's a gun in the life shit
and he's like
and it's moving its head and there's smoke
Such play in the gundam themes
Right?
I'm Citizen Kane clapping
at this hero
the hero that Turkey deserves
How much are they suing him for?
I think it was 20 mil
Was there a number there?
No
We don't have a number
Everyone is outraged
Outraged at the money spent
One statue is worth of money
I just hope it doesn't come down to
some of the statues
That's just a public backlash
Mayor Gokcek simply replied
Respect the robot
This is fake
Which surprisingly only made things worse
This has got to be fake
This is a strange place
Real life is often stranger than fiction
Because that's too cool
You see the picture of this guy
He's all dapper in a suit with a purple tie
He doesn't give a fuck
He's wearing a purple tie
He's rocking it
He's doing a good job
Fake or not, it's probably fake
I don't even care
I got my enjoyment out of this news story
It doesn't matter if it's real
We live in a world where the bronze robocop statue
was going to be a thing
The right thing to say happened
The rocky statue is a thing
They moved it
But it still exists
So publicly viewed
The robocop statue was made
But I don't think it was ever publicly displayed
In Detroit
I wouldn't work because he didn't have his fucking gun
Yeah
He's just standing there
I think that stupid statue of Max Payne
You can buy it
T-Pose
Stand and not shoot, man
The T-Pose statue
Like the Sam Lake
Fucking Twitter background
Should be the goddamn action figure
They should make a Sam Lake figure
You just always throw it
You just throw it
Actually, technically any Max Payne
One figure is a Sam Lake figure
Yeah, technically
Are there any Max Payne one?
There's figures for every game
That's right
Game-wide, there's a ton of trailers
That popped up for shit
Can we talk about the most baffling one first?
Just go in the sequence
I want to talk about Mankind Divided
Oh, yeah, who cares about what I was going to say
That trailer is fucking awesome
Really cool
That trailer spits off fire
Nothing else to say there
Do we even have anything else to say?
I don't know, I'm looking at Matt
And waiting for him to start bitching
About the arm blade
Oh, the fucking arm blade
He doesn't like the square
That was so close to writing his suggestion bug
Didn't you get in a huge fight
With somebody over something like that?
It's similar, I'll talk about it someday
But yeah, I just have a problem with
You're bug reporting the side decisions
Sometimes it's appropriate
Suggestion bug is fine
The team was really stressed
They're not having any suggestions
I like that they're flat
I don't like that they're flat
For impending people
So the edge board is one of them
Pointy
It's a flat blade
Even though it's thin enough and cybernetic
So it can still theoretically work
But you don't like the shape
If he never impaled someone
It's fine because he's always cutting
When he impales people with a square object
I actually love that the most
That means he's doing it really hard
If you took a broom
You could impale somebody if you do it harder
Yeah, go ask the kids at McGill
Oh yeah?
Is that something?
They got caught hazing
Oh no, right
Yeah
It seems bad, don't do it
Trailer is super awesome
But I think I told at least two of you this
I really hope that the in-game cinematics
Can get to a level close to that
There's human revolutions
Like in-game cutscenes
But he's talking about pre-rendered shit
Pre-rendered movies look so bad
And it looked worse
Because the awesome CG trailer
Existed for a human revolution
So it made it look worse
I think they'll be fine but they're not going to touch this
This is done by Square Enix
Square Enix Japan's visual work studio
And it's done for like
Drake and Guard
I'm kind of disappointed that the trailer didn't
Play towards the end like even one cool
Establishing shot
We'll get that
Wait, is Gamescom in spring?
No, it's in August
I love keeping an eye out for
The like
Sentai-esque action
Kamen Rider, textile stuff
And character action bits and stuff
Because we have a friend that
May or may not be responsible for the cool poses
Not in this trailer but in the final game
Yeah
We're already by Japanese people
But I always keep an eye out
I have total faith in this game
Because the first was so good
The first was so good and it's one of those games
That this can only get better
And I'm just
You're going to all roll your eyes
Stay with me
The reason why I would
Drudge through sword art is because
I have a huge erection for the online MMO thing
I have a bigger erection for
The exact flavor of augmented
Cyber pump, cyber shit
It's the best
To the point where
There's people that are being shit on
Because of it
The new basis term
Clanks
Clank
There's only two things I want out of this
I want the piss filter dialed back slightly
Just a little bit, like 10%
It's going to be dialed back
And I want
The cover system to remain
And for it to be in third person
And I want the animation
Of Jensen switching sides
Yeah, always
Beats the beats in my head
I will be super disappointed
If you can't do his
That night of the Roxbury video
With him doing the thing
With the guy dying of gas behind him
I hope you can clock old ladies
Like I did last time
If you can't clock everyone
And children, is it really a sequel?
There's no children in the Deus Ex Universe
Yeah, so exactly
You think they'll do a better job on dildo duty this time
Dildo duty is an important duty
It depends if we go to that place again
I will not have you making fun of it, sir
Dildo duty is a sacred art
There was a lot of money spent on that
Did you still fucking miss one?
One
No, not me
But 30 guys, none of us
Transfer that scenario to the real world
Of guys
Our office has too many dildos
Big wig from Squares coming in
We gotta clear out all the dildos
We should probably talk about that
Cause we're not making much sense
Keep it brief
There's a bunch of dildos in Deus Ex
Just in like the brothels and stuff
And when they did the Japanese release
They had to get rid of that shit
Cause Ciro was like no, no you can't
No dildos in Japan
No phallic objects in Japan
So they had to pay QA to sweep through
And flag all the dildos
But there was a few
Mist in like the sewer section
In particular one in behind the wall
Cause there's secret rooms that you can bust open
Who bust into a tiny
Seeker room in the sewer
Let me get my dildos out
The level designers just like giggling at you guys
Like I bet they'll never find this dildo
And hold up the production of the game
Yeah
It ended up shipping with a few in there
It was much easier with Hitman where like
It's just a weapon
Too many dildos
Too many
Yes
And of course that stellar soundtrack
Was came back
Mike McConaugher
I am really shocked that it appears
That the truth is out there ending
Appears to be the canon ending
Well there's actually
There's a thing that
It might be that none of the four are canon
Yeah
That's actually the operating
But like we see Jensen in the water
So far that seems to be the most likely one
But it's just like I picked that ending
Knowing that it wouldn't be the one they pulled forward
Regardless it's kind of weird
That they have like a
Non-binary continuation
It's not just like yes
It's interesting
It makes me think of like
They're literally kind of saying this is a weird
It makes me think of such as liberty
Right kind of
No offendings are true
And then MGS4 where you double confirm that
You know like super weird
But fuck it after the first 15 minutes that'll be gone
And the message will be clear
The events of Deus Ex Human Revolution
Turned out poorly
For everybody
For every one of them
Which is awesome
That ending is the best thing
Pritchard better still be in it
I too guy ever
Will Malik be alive
You don't want the question else on your side
What? Pritchard
They've shown off like in the little concept
Stuff they've shown off the new chopper pilot
Will Malik be alive?
I seriously doubt it
I apologize to anybody that hasn't
Completed Deus Ex Human Revolution
You had your chance
Just throwing it out there
We just very casually got
Real deep
Side character dying
Or not
Doing that sequence non-lethally
Is my favorite part of Deus Ex Human Revolution
It took me like
Four hours the boy was like
Fucking stoked
When I did it
That bit's a thrill
Cause that's the most like I'm not gonna compromise my morals
And it looks really impossible
I love the situation
Where it's like she's literally telling you to get the fuck out
And you're like oh I can stay
You have to say no I'm gonna stay
And then on top of that
There are like 50 guys here
Figuring out how to get through the game
On Give Me Deus Ex
Is an interesting like
War of Attrition
Where every footstep you make
Around every corner has to be calculated
Plus there were earlier bugs where enemies
Would shoot barrels and the barrels would explode
And they would kill the enemy
And then you would not get
You did nothing
I dodged that thing luckily
But that
But yeah trailer for the new game looks fucking sick
At the same time
Because there was a bit of a snafu leak
With the Square Enix's campaign
For getting this info out there
It sounds like they're like we're gonna do a better job
On our next game thing
There might be a new Star Ocean coming
Cause I can't tell what else this website
Would be
It's got the goddamn letters like
S T R E A
No it just says star
But it's off center
It says star then it says
2000
2015
Oh something
So it seems, well it's oh
And there's a space and there's a one
So it seems like it's gonna be 2015
Day
Month after October or something like that
Walk back Star Ocean 3
That's probably the Star Ocean 2 remake
For Vita that they took on a while ago
Like 5 years or so I think
5 or 6 years since the last
Oh since the last new Star Ocean
Yeah it's been quite a few years
You have to walk back Star Ocean 2
That's fine that gets the best
Yeah exactly
If you do another Star Ocean
Walk back Star Ocean 3
Say that that game never happened in this bullshit
Or doggs or just doggs
No that game has like a
No I know
It's not good enough to ignore something
I have to say it didn't exist
Are you familiar with what I'm describing
It is the worst
It's the worst effort of any RPG
Of any time
The Star Ocean games
Are video games played by
A future race
Of future people
And the fact that they don't walk it back
In 4 is like the most
Disgusting thing ever
It's like guess what Star Ocean 1 and 2
Are video games like that
It's those games
It's such a bummer
You can't just forget about it
Either
It's such a core plot point
The instant I started up Star Ocean 4
In the opening intro I'm like ok I'm waiting for them to say
That that shit didn't happen
And this game is terrible
And I don't mean like
It's terrible because of that
I got like 15 in 10 and I was like oh no
Oh crap uh oh
I didn't even get to an happy time with edgy
You know a lot of people shit on Square Enix
But Triace fucking cooked themselves
With that series
And you know what's the worst part?
Edge Maverick awesome name
That's too cool
That's why little one snappy time
But like how many people approved that idea
And said sounds great sign off let's do it
Everyone at Triace
Let's retroactively ruin
The two best games we've ever made
So
They did Valkyrie Profile
Um and
On that note we've got
Confirmation of Project Cross Zone 2
Now including
Now including hey hold on a minute though
Now including the Dragon of Dojima
It's
Specifically the one from
Yakuza of the end
Yakuza of the end with the guy
Oh that's the fan fiction
Version
And a Strider running alongside
Shinobi
Also running alongside Natsu
Who was already in it no?
Natsu from Soulcalve 5
5 yeah
Who was the timing
Natsu from the old one
The old one
But it's those 3
It's such a good team
Unfortunately all made moot
There was a reddit post
Like I bet all the best friends
Getting super hard for this
And I was like yeah no
I'm getting hard for the action
Digest trailer
Yeah
Cause we've already got like the 2 minute one
But you're gonna get the 13 minute one
I shan't be tricked again
And in a cross boring double ballin
In a world in which like Yakuza 5
Is actually gonna come out in the west
They already showed footage sorry
In a world in which Yakuza 5
Is actually gonna come out in the west
Like the bowl of Kiryu
Isn't strong enough in this anymore
Cause if there was nothing
If there was just nothing
Then I'd be fucking weak
And just play it until I got the Kiryu
It also has more camel in it
The character more camel
Majima is the shit man
He's just the joker
Cause the thing is though clearly if there's a sequel to this
It must have made enough in Japan at least
Apparently it sold 400,000 copies worldwide
Cause people didn't know
It did very good
Hell we knew and we still bought it
Yeah there you go
Kazuma Kiryu and Goro Majima
In Japan it sold like virtually
Identical to Namco X Capcom
Like it is absurd
How close for week one
And for final sales
Like to the thousand
It's crazy
Kite from .hack is in it as well
Kite's red
Wasn't he in the first one?
They're adding the GU guy Haseo
The GU guy is in there
Then they show Virgil right after
And you're just like fuck you guys man
Make it not cross boring
Fuck you guys
GDA fighting game
Unless I hear that they make this game amazing somehow
But you know what though
Here's the thing
We had never had a problem with the system at all
It was just the tediousness of the progression
So that could be fixed
It's not gonna
It's not gonna
Like how much have VanPresto changed their game
I know
But it's like in like 20 years
It's such an easy fix cause it's just the mission
Cause they do all the robot work
No you need value for your dollar
But yeah
You gotta watch those animations at least 400 times
Each before you finish the game
Just make it a BMO
Listen to Matt
Make it anything
Anything other than this
Dating Sim, whatever
Dating Sim would be fucking rad dude
A PS1 era
Survival horror game with shit textures
Yeah
We're going back to 1995
We're going back in 1995
Best year confirmed
No 98 was
But 95 is pretty good
Pretty good runner up
So
I got back from Grenada
Good for you man
No no no this is early Arizona
Rezebel 1 is 96
97
North America or Japan
No that's North America
So back in 1995
95 is pre-Rezebel 1
So back in 1995
Is a game being made by Dojinsoft
And it is right now
Is it porn?
Yeah that'd be Dojin Hard
That'd be Dojin Hard
And
Yeah it is a
Deliberately shitty textured
It's not even the textures
It's the fucking poly model
Poly quality
Yeah everyone's made NES games
And Super Nintendo and Genesis style games
I've been wanting people to do N64 shit
For a long time
But it's a very
You're at a pie train if you think this looks like
Old N64 shit
I don't think it looks like Old N64 shit
I've been wanting that era
Because old sprites
Old sprites are still easy to make
But old 3D is like
There's no reason to make it shit
Yeah you know
Turn on the normal bump map
And parallax
And even if they make it look
Like you know how Virtua Fighter 5
For example had the retro mode
It's like everyone is still too sharp
Too smooth
You remember how Solid Snake looks
When you play him in Ground Zero's
He animates way too well
It looks amazing
It's the same with 5 frames
So this is supposed to be like a survival horror game
In the trailer they barely show anything
But they do show a spinning CD logo
In the bottom
It's huge and ugly too
I really hope they have
A CD drive sound that plays
Very lightly
Yeah that'd be good
Or disc rules
And then in the last level
It goes to full on Unreal Engine 4
Just blow out
Boom
In your face
The story takes place in 1995
And the guy finds a portal to the future
And he goes through and he goes
Ah that's great
It's all survival zombie games on early access
Yeah
It's to get super buggy
And then he turns around and goes back to 1995
And then Germs Sterling's
Germs Sterling
Every time I go on Steam
I'm like can I filter out anything
What's the word survival and zombie
When I search for new games
Cause then you'll filter them all out
Just click what's next in your queue
Guess what
It's a zombie survival game
With crafting elements
Strafe is
You know throwing back to old 3D
Yeah that's also kind of a specific
That's OIC style
C3D which is a very different piece
Or you can use it
But listen to what you just said
How fucking niche are we making our demands
You know it's crazy
We want to see it but it's unrealistic
No one's gonna get it
I get it
That's good enough for me
So Pat's gonna make it on his own
I want a 2D survival horror game
Made on a cell phone from 1997
Fucking Nokia shit
If I can't play that alongside Snake
I want the GBA port of Resident Evil 1
Cause I was just gonna say you should go play Loan Survivor
I did
He wants another one
So that looks fun
And
Get all hype for your
Monster Hunter
Monster Hunter buddies
Son of a bitch
Liam sent me a no spoiler
And I'm watching it
And I'm watching it for a really long time
Like 45 seconds
You know our spoiler?
Before I realized what's happening
Is that guy wearing a monster
That's a T-grade
What the fuck is this
What the fuck is this
That's how it's gotta be
When you see a trailer that someone would like
You know spoiler
The visual of Monster Hunter buddy and friends
Is fantastic
I wish it was on the Wii U as well though
Cause the resolution is gonna hit that really hard
Those colors are bright
And there's no information about this game at all
It's like Monster Hunter
It's a rendered little thing
I'm hearing reaction in Japan is
Mixed
You don't think
Making a child's version of Monster Hunter
Is a good idea? I think it's a great idea
No but reaction in Japan is
I don't think it's necessarily a child's version
I think it's got a cute art style
But I don't think it's necessarily a child's version at all
Could be anything
There's no information
I guess but when I see
Like an SD kid running around with a little buddy
Holding an egg
Like a calico dipshit
But the moment
Where like a Rathalos
Swoops down
And then some baby Rathalos
And he rides it
And I'm just screaming at my television
Why can't I do that right now
Why can't I do that in Monster Hunter
And then I just started to get all bummed out
And looking at footage of that
10 cent
Monster Hunter online
And getting super butt mad
Rathalos looks so good
So
I'm excited for it
Pre-order it immediately
That's Japan only right now
Yeah but it's like
Yeah there's no one to pre-order it
If I go to the fucking store
They're gonna point at Monster Hunter 4 on the shelf
Just take an envelope
Put some cash in it and hand it to the cashier
With a Sharpie Marker note on it
Keep this for the thing
And they change the name to Monster Hunter and friends here
Monster Hunter Kids
Buddies I said
The one that would be
Kiss of Death for me is like
Monster Hunter Quest
That one for me
It makes me think of Virtual Quest and Quest 64
Both super good games
And Final Fantasy Mystic Quest
Capcom has something
In the history of doing this
They tried
But also they tried
Geist Crusher last year to aim for a kids game
And that was a complete flock
That was by Treasure
Oh my god Geist Crusher you're right
But if you go back
If you go back you remember one of their
Core IPs that they started with
They did it to Mega Man
Mega Man had battle network for
Many many many games
Geist Crusher looked like it could have been a thing
But it was terrible
Treasure really
Like it's actually not a good game
Also like I played it it's not good
So you think they're gonna
Bake the Japanese onomatopoeia
Into this game so that you can't localize it
No but I think it's gonna be like battle network
Where it's like they're just gonna target a
Slightly younger audience with an IP that people like
It makes sense
Monster Hunter is the biggest game ever
So you might as well try and leverage the brand
Exactly so it's all like
How close is this gonna launch to Yo-Kai Watch
Is the question because Yo-Kai Watch 3
Will kick its ass so
I don't know the Monster Hunter name
Yo-Kai Watch 3 is gonna kick its ass
It takes place in America Land
The third one
It does, there's a fucking
Corn monster
I would love for that to get localized
It's gonna, it's gonna
They announced the first one already
I want it to be Japan Land
Like localized but it's still America Land
Well that's the first two games
That's some dumb shit
Speaking of leveraging the franchise
The city of Final Fantasy
The arcade is being co-developed by Team Ninja
That's not leveraging
That's co-developing
It's good
I don't know if you saw
But they actually put out a video of it
Of what it looked like on their old arcade boards
Before they switched development to PS4s
Oh no I didn't
The cab just has like modified
PS4 hardware
And that's why the controllers all
So I wonder if this is getting a console for
Absolutely all that leveraging your franchise
We want that Gruntslinger Stratos money on Final Fantasy
But
The city is good on its own
It's existed
But turning this into
I didn't say that
The style of these cabinets with the 3 on 3
And stuff like that's going
That's going to the base
I mean if you had intro'd that when we talked about
When the city arcade was announced
That makes it, hey
All we know, the only new information
That's co-developing
It looks cool and they're definitely pushing it to
I'm kind of bummed that they're pushing it
To arcades to be honest
Because this was one of the games that was supposed to save the Vita
But whatever
That game will come someday
It'll come to PS4 in a year
They said they might look into a console release
After a year
They might
No
If and when this comes to a console or handheld
I hope they pair it down to 1v1
Yeah, I was watching the footage
I'm not sure if I love 3v3
The footage seems to imply
That 3v3 is the intended
That's how it looks for sure
I want to play Sonic Heroes Decidian
Too bad
I'd like to play that too actually
I said I don't want to
No one does
How did I say Sonic Heroes
And your response was I want to
Sonic Heroes
With the Final Fantasy characters
Sonic Heroes is a pile of garbage
But if I get to play
As Minwoo
And Onion Knight
And Barrett on a team
He's really cool
He has Mithril Maces
What the f*** is he from?
Final Fantasy 2
You were on the Metro
And this guy is like
Final Fantasy 2 is super underrated
I love it
Minwoo has the most tragic death
In the whole Final Fantasy series
I'm going to hit my own party members
To raise their defense garbage
If you don't like that news
Then I've got some bad news about Xenoblade Chronicles X
What about it?
The Nintendo Direct Japan that they just had
Showed off some of the multiplayer stuff
There's multiplayer?
There's been multiplayer since the first show
Four players together in like groups fighting
And you can join a squad of 32
What battle system is this?
Same as Xenoblade
That sounds cool
Okay
I thought you hit co-op
Your whole thing about co-op
Never co-op games forever
I don't like having to do that
I think you're the problem
Suddenly
Nice attempt at a save
I've been playing co-op with Nat
I've been playing co-op with some other friends
We've had giant
F***ing discussions about how you're insane
For discounting every co-op game ever
My favorite
My favorite
My favorite one was when I was talking
How I wished something wasn't co-op
Because I don't enjoy co-op
And you said, oh I feel bad for you
And I had a complete nervous breakdown
I had a complete fucking nervous breakdown
What? You feel sorry for me?
What? I'm not as much of a human as you
Because I don't like co-op
And just like stormed out
And then came back 15 minutes later
Going like yeah that was a little nuts
We are writing off a category of fun
Is what Matt and I were saying
And you're like
And I interpreted that statement as
Like you're calling me a subhuman
You filthy mole
Do we even know you at that time?
I don't think I did
I think so
There's a back and mess metal placement
I hate when I have to play co-op
Like if I don't need a co-op partner
F*** that
So I hope I can play this game single player
Like remelations 2
You can't
No I know
But the fact that it's there just makes me go
Okay but I hope I don't need someone
Have they released a statement
About the pedal music
You are changing it all
Because it wasn't just the west
It wasn't just the west
Like 2chan apparently blew up
And does not like the music either
Wow shocker
Cause it's fucking bad
And a bunch of people
Are giving a shit for that too
I'll be really honest
Why don't you like the music I like
The battle theme music thing
Almost completely
Deflated my excitement for that
That's insane
That's why I started this with I'll be completely honest
Cause I knew that it's insane
Go to the options and turn it off
That is not an option
When you miss the amazing rest of the soundtracks
That is not an option
It's soundtracks
You call me insane playing games without
Better soundtracks
But I'm saying space crazy
It is crazy but it's less crazy
Than not playing the game at all
I didn't say I wasn't gonna play it
I said it deflated my excitement
That sounded like you were going with
I'd rather have nothing
And you were just gonna take the fun
Not on this one
Well let's go 10 minutes
Probably have a new all night
I'm gonna limb up the revelations
To the other night and I don't know what it was
But I just like I'd rather have nothing
You're just like
So angry about the ending
I don't like the gas rooms
Those gas rooms
The last episode of revelations
Without a doubt the weakest
Wait did you finish it
Well we finished the shit
Yeah I can't get the good ending
It's not gonna change all the levels before it
Yeah
You're playing levels
I'm just saying
The final episode's levels were not that fun
To go through
That's all we're saying
We had this moment the other night
You told me I could do this quickly
How do you do this quickly
You mother fucker
I gotta replay the thing we get the good ending
I gotta replay the thing we get the good ending
And Liam had told me
Like weeks ago
I should be able to do it like a sub one hour
And I took mad high
Like fucking four hours to beat these two episodes
For the combined amount
And then you're like whoa
I don't know how that happened it was weird
And I'm like well what's your tips
Here you want your Liam's advice
As to how to beat these things
Just run by every enemy
And just grab items and know exactly where everything is
And then just beat it fast
And it's a second place
And just speed running
And when I'm like
What was it don't write guides
And his response was
To send me a speed run video
Of one of the episodes
Just watch the video and do it
The other part of it though
But you omit the bit
Where I wrote you a step by step guide for the level
I didn't read that
We were a bit frustrated though
Because we unlocked a couple of weapons
And we went oh this will make it really easy
I cut that whole part out
Because it goes nowhere
We restarted like hey can this make it really easy
No it can't
It doesn't make it
Like it makes it maybe easy for the first 20 minutes
That's your game though
Good asking
Yeah wait for the
Yeah
So I read a headline
And like rubbed my eyes
And wasn't sure what I was reading
Your eyes bulged out like
Super Saiyan god
Super Saiyan playable in Dragon Ball Z
Don't you mean a stream buruto
And I was like
Ah there's Liam's face
Captured by audio
And I was like there means Super Saiyan god
The final form
Super Saiyan
With the red hair and it's like no
Is this the blue hair Goku that I saw
Super Saiyan god
It's literally what it's called
Why is it gotta be blue
Because they're out of god damn
Because Super Saiyan god went red
So they have to
What are they gonna do to make it green
He looks like he's less powerful
What are they gonna do to make it green
They're gonna go every fucking color of the rainbow
Every color of the rainbow
Blue just seems like a power decrease
Well Super Saiyan god already seemed like a power decrease
No yeah
Because it was normal Goku hair
Super Saiyan 4 looked like a decrease in some ways
I view these
As illegitimate
Yeah 4 is illegitimate because they ignored it
Like the step after Super Saiyan 3
Is considered Super Saiyan god
4 and GT world is just written
Also SSJ4 is illegitimate
Because it's also stupid as fuck
That was half of Dragon Ball Z
Written off
Or Dragon Ball
I know but it's like man this series
Is a fucking mess
That's why
And he came back
Actually he got out too late
He tried to get out at Frieza
He kept him in until he said fuck this
Cell was a good idea
Cell was like
For forcing my hand I can tell go hand store
Yeah but then Majin was like
Boo was like I'm done and they're like no
And they're like well fuck you and then they made the GT space adventures
And then Gotenks kills Hitler
Hey
So
It's a 13
Are there 13
Are there 13
There's a problem
There's 15 now
And I had to go read the fucking wiki
Entry on this thing to fully understand it
And it's absolutely
And you can't believe you're typing the word Super Saiyan
Super Saiyan
And this is real
Because we thought
The Super Saiyan god was like a
SSJ4
But it was actually a Super Saiyan god's
Base level power
Exactly
This is me guessing
To a new line
Of upgrades
And the best part is because I saw some stupid toys
You know Vegeta just for no reason gets to get up there too
Yeah because it's not fair
Because hey man how else are you going to be golden Frieza
You know
I like the idea that Frieza never tried
I like the idea that Frieza
Said on his ass and could just do all the transformations
Like naturally
And never try to dain his goddamn life
And still almost beat Goku
And so then now he comes back
Okay so I tried a little bit
I'm super super strong now
That's what I like about this movie's premise
But Frieza has gotten more duels
Wait how's Frieza back by the way
Frieza's back for resurrection
Yeah a new movie
Resurrection F
Resurrection F
His minions find the dragon balls
And watch them back to life
How did they just find the dragon ball
They scatter every cat in years
No I know but like
All of the Frieza saga was
Don't let Frieza get the dragon balls
And then he just gets them
Why did P Laugh wish Goku to be a kid
Instead of wishing that he won the original battle
With Goku all those years ago
Who's P Laugh no
Yeah we can go all over
With this and I'm sure
Like play could chime in at any moment
I for one welcome the new age of Super Saiyan God
Super Saiyan
How far can we push this
God who makes this the fucking
Games for this Ben and Echo
Oh this is going to be an Archer's Game
I bet everyone involved with licensing
Of Super Saiyan like
Gets the dock hit their desk
And just starts masturbating furiously
We don't have to stop we can make new dumb characters
What was that
Did you ever see the YouTube
Animation that was made by like
A fan and it's like a whole new series
Made by a fan where
He has like another level
It's a gray
I forget what it's called like X
It strikes me as familiar
Like gray to be known
You ever fall down that YouTube hole
Of just looking at people reenacting
The Super Saiyan 3 moment
There's the one good one
And the only one you ever need to see
You walk proudly in
With the black thread that tries to
Go Super Saiyan
And you have to watch the edited version
Where some sparks start to rise
Maybe this is what I'm talking about
Maybe that's what I'm talking about
Yeah that's it
Anyway
The best ones are the ones where their parents
Tell them to be quiet
Like the one you made
Yeah exactly
Or every anime con
Where you've got poor Scott McNeil
Around or any of the other ocean group
Voice actors and just no matter
What room you're in at some point
You hear them
Ahhh
Now get me a bottle of water
Which was the guy that
Played Vegeta
Chris Sabot
Yeah Chris Sabot gets
Big ups forever
For the story about him passing out
In the voice booth
Doing Vegeta's
Like power up yell
And it's like do you even want to hear him do it at a con
You'll never top the one that he almost died doing
No that's it
They'll always have I think per con
Every time
Every time like a Goku grandma
Dies in the booth because she's trying to do
The Super Saiyan power up
They just have another
Like they have a line of grandmas and they all
Get in
Get your Naruto grandma in here
She's invincible
They just switch to the next mic
So that the sound is consistent
As one dies
Is Bordo gonna be
Narrow in it by an even older grandma
You just hear her start talking about her grandson
In the mic
I remember one of the grandmas told the story
Where she was taking the bullet train
And a bunch of kids were like
Look at that stupid old grandma
What a loser and she told them
Respect your elders like
Oh my god are you Goku's voice
And she's like ahhh
They marked out
That's how you do it
Then it's just train full of Japanese kids
Trying to be Super Saiyans
You try hard enough man
You'll get there
You'll punch through the Digiverse
They're real okay
I swear to god
I was looking at my monitor
And I saw her reflection
And it looked like
Garuruma
I don't believe me
But I'm telling you I saw Garuruma
And he was looking at me he was mine
The lights went out
And they flickered and he was there
That is one of the few things that I've been able to find on the internet
And send to Wally that he just
Could not handle
I can't
I went for the ring
All these years later
I used to not believe in Super Saiyans
Someone at Tim's today
Did any of you guys happen to see
Or hear about Little Devil Inside
Doesn't that look awesome
The art looks awesome
I don't know what the game is going to be like
I hope it is going to be like that trailer
Yes I saw that that does look awesome
There's so much going on
The art style is like an interesting sort of like huge thing
But then you see like vehicle combat
You're riding on like cars
There's a lot of shit it's nifty
And then you get the part where the guys walking up to you with the sword
Really slowly and you're like okay
It also reminded me of like
Oh what happened to that
Cuphead's still going
It should be done
It's not done
It's just a 2D platformer
Amazing animation
Isn't it just a boss rush
That even more
Reason why it should be done
But yeah so this like Little Devil Inside
I think it's actually up for steam green light
Everything's up for steam green light
It's actually drowning in steam green light
You're saying grandma's up for steam green light
But it's like
You know that you could do that
Without showing any gameplay things
You can do whatever the fuck you want
That's why it's a problem
Yeah
You can charge people 60 bucks for nothing
What we get is anything like this video
Like we're getting something awesome
It looks really like something special
Fucking cool man
Did I tell you I contacted the guy who made frog fractions
Come on
Because I thought shower with your dad was frog fractions
He tried to call it
I told you
Because there's a frog in the fucking
Yeah I guess we were like
This shower with your dad's thing
Is super high production
Is this frog fractions too
And Liam just told me we'll just ask him
So I asked him and he replied within like an hour
I was like no
It's way too on the nose
That off the list
It's just a super weird green light game
So now I'm kind of feeling like
Fuck those guys for making it seem like it was though
In a way
I never got that impression
Frog fractions is way more mysterious
Than that
Because when you look at frog fractions for the first time
Why not
How many games have frogs in them
Maybe it's just the deal with the frog
I saw a frog the other day
A real frog
Did you eat it?
Would I look like the French?
Yeah
Like yes
Is this a question?
Alright well no
Hey so
Remember when our dull buddy
Don Matric went over to Zynga
Yeah
We all laughed and laughed and laughed and laughed
Because it's the most appropriate shit ever
Well apparently he was so awesome at his job
That they're like hey man you're being way too good at this
You need to back it off a bit
You need a challenge
So we need to like replace you
Yeah
After two years
Because you've been rocking it so hard
That we can't handle it
You get the feeling that
Don Matric's tenure at Microsoft
Was not of his own doing
Like
Where
He got the credit
For all the good things that happened under his watch
But they weren't actually due to him
Because the instant it
Actually became under his watch
He blew up in his face
And then he went to a different thing
And then they kicked him out
You can get a good president
No wait he's an asshole
You can get a good president
But if your company can't handle a good president
We have another president for you
And it's Don Matric
Alternatively they may need to let him go
Because he isn't like conducting the annual
Like sacrificial rites
Yeah maybe he's just not
Latching onto the watch
And everyone's like you need to go
Yeah
I really want to see the boardroom meeting
Where Matric
Of all people is fighting
For them to make like a generic
Third person shooter
And the Zynga people are like
What are you talking about
Can't we just rip off angry birds
Get out of here with your forward thinking
New dynamics
You're now back to the lamb ritual
Just fucking searing guts all over themselves
These lambs are gonna smear themselves
Do you have the other very similar story to this?
No
The one cool guy
Left at visceral
Just got fired for no reason
The head of visceral
Stop being cool
What's the name of the guy you always know
Glenn Shofield
Got fucking fired from
No wait Glenn Shofield works at god damn
Sledgehammer and he left after Dead Space 1
It's whatever guy that was currently
In charge
That was in charge of Dead Space 3
Yeah I saw that he was no longer in charge either
No Dead Space 3 wasn't visceral
As far as I remember it was EA internal
I think visceral was making army of 2
No visceral made battlefield hardline
Yeah that was the most recent one
Well visceral was EA internal
And then they just
I thought Dead Space 3 wasn't even
By visceral
I thought maybe I'm crazy
No I'm just saying
A friend of mine that works at EA
Was telling me about how things
Stop telling us to make a good Dead Space game
No we're gonna make a bad one
But it was just like the most fired thing ever
Like it was a press release
We thank him for yeah okay bye
Like it was just really thrown under the rug
Hardline must not be lightened up to charts
Well at least
No one on that team's fault
At least it wasn't done at a company picnic
Yeah I was
Selling him that story
At least Kotaku ran a while ago
About like bad firing stories
In which like
Hey everybody it's a rat party
Let's go out to a pizza party
In a bowling alley
And at the end of the night here's your pink slips
Which then made everyone
Of the company terrified
Of going out to company
Why would you ever go
At least you get that one extra day
Yeah
At least they have
At least they have to fire you at your desk
Where you can pick up your things and leave
Possibly
What about the pictures of my family
They're owned by Randy now
They're his family now
But once you go in the room
You always get escorted out
You need to know in advance
And start sending yourself the emails
While you're getting in that morning
You know what you should do
You should just steal from your job all the time
So you're just ready to be fired
Um
Do you know that these pens are made out of
Baby hearts
Said Randy Pitchford
Over at Zynga, yeah
It's a magic trick
I'm a magician
Look at my jacket
It's not even efficient
This is flying off the rails
This has nothing to do with anything
I was gonna say you need like seven baby hearts
To get one pen
It's the most inefficient use of a baby heart
You're firing someone and he's like
Here's your job, right?
And then he shoots a dove out the window
And then pulls out a gun
And shoots the dove
Uh
Is the dog a birthday on the dog?
Well, I was just gonna bring up the Ant-Man trailer
Oh, okay, yeah, absolutely
Ant-Man trailer
Interesting stuff, the yellow jacket reveal was pretty fun
Yeah, that's the
House of Cards dude
The guy that plays yellow jacket
That's his name, House of Cards dude
A bald guy that Frank always uses
Stamper? Stamper, yeah, Douglas Stamper
Sure, I thought that thing was Stamper first
Yeah, that's yellow jacket
Yeah, I don't understand part of that trailer
Cause it's got yellow jacket
Punching towards a tiny Ant-Man
Shouldn't the Ant-Man just get fucking
No, like clobbered into goo
No, because becoming small
Makes him super powered
Cause that's how ants work
That's the one line I really like to the movie
Small, you're a bullet
You're as powerful as a bullet
He's super powered in comparison to his
Tiny size?
He hits harder smaller than he does
As a full-sized man
So he's like a reverse piccolo
It's the reason why, like he has an advantage
To becoming smaller
He becomes a dwarf, he's got plus two against two
And like an ant, you have the scale
You remember Hawkeye's Super and Marvel
Where he shoots Ant-Man on the arrow
Yeah, Ant-Man punches the guy
And then he stabs on you
Yeah, that's the whole thing
Has he beat his wife in this one?
It's not Hank
That's a different canon
I still kind of feel weird about it
There's something off about the whole thing
I totally agree with you
The complete lack of Edgar Wright
I think that like deep down
That's what I feel like what's wrong
I'm never gonna not see that
And that's sad, but
And it looks a lot less funny
Than what they were initially going for
It seems to be kind of more serious
With some gags here and there
Like straight-faced gags
Also Paul Rudd is like straight guy
It seems like Michael Douglas is the more funny dude
Delivering punchlines
But delivering like sandbags punchlines
Like I said to you though in my little text
Like that last gag with the train
Was pretty funny
I laughed at that
It looks like it'll be good though
To be fair, going into burns of the galaxy
Like I don't know
I was excited
I was excited for Guardians of the Galaxy
Because I thought it was going to be a mass effect
And I was right
Especially once
Pratt is the main guy
You're like they're getting him
And telling him play up
Your Parks and Rec character even more
But hot
The Parks and Rec character was like
I suck with girls, I don't know what I'm doing
So yeah, so he gets the whole
Galaxy
The Guardians
Talking about Zaldana
Or Aubrey Plaza
Both of them
She's got that weird face thing
Which one?
Both of them
Interestingly attractive faces
They both have that weird face thing
In a different way
One's not actually green in real life
And you said Zaldana
Not Gamora
So he saw that
As a weird green face
No
Don't look to me for continuity
It's always going to be
Like this was the option B movie
You know
You salvaged it as opposed to
But imagine being the first one
That's not great
The first MCU movie
Like Iron Man 2
Whether that's like whatever
Since then
Which one are you talking about?
No, I mean Ant-Man
You don't want to be the project
That everyone actually
Turns out to be bad
From phase 2
Phase 2
God forbid it performs poorly too
Because Iron Man 2 is like
Middling and poor as it was
It sold
I watched Thor Dark
Do it
Do you have 2 hours?
Yeah
And Loki doing more Loki
Do you have 2 hours to feel
Slightly average?
Dude, that's my life
You just started Gintama because you didn't even know why
Just watch it
I was pretty bored
There's something about the time of day
And the window that is making the tone of this podcast
Super weird
It's a little bit weird
You can crack that a lot more if you want
Crack that way
What did you even say in the first time?
What did you even say in the first time?
I said you can crack that
Open the more if you want
It's like we're going off the rails
But really slowly
Very slowly
There you go
We've got some wind
I feel like it's going to break
Do you have some wind?
Wind
Tell them shut your fucking mouth
Yeah, but I want that back in every fighting game
There are some buttons on the versus screen
I want to spawn a wind
We'll wait for a combat pack too
Or whatever
Spawn might be there
Now that makes sense
Since there's going to be more combat
At DLC
There's nothing that will beat all the feet
You just kidding
That is the worst translation ever
If you want to send us some letters
About how you're just kidding
Then you should send them over too
SurveysFriendcast
At gmail.com
That is?
SurveysFriendcast
That's why I pointed
That's crazy
This breeze is so hot
I love it
It's a hot like good
It's attractive to you
Make love to the breeze
That's tough
Wind
That's your job
Wind turbines
On your penis
Whatever works for you
Generating electricity
You got questions we got answers
I'm asking you the fucking question
Give me an answer
What's an actual question
Define your sex with wind
Position will age
Put your dick in it
Get up real nice and high
Find a rooftop
That's got a nice wind chamber
So like this roof
That's correct
You want to get like a dog funnel
But like way larger
So that you can catch as much draft
And shove it down there
All on your dick
That's correct
And so basically
Spider-Man knows
It's got to be hitting you so hard
That all you're doing like spinners on your own
Just because of the amount of wind
We don't stop
And like
When you're writing spinners hard enough
With the big funnel on it
Eventually it's going to feel really good
Oh my god
I regret everything
Please the next question
None of that was quality
That was no questions
We're currently in with zero questions
We got one coming in from
We got one coming in
We got a question coming in from Jacob Tutu
Oh no kidding
Dear subpar best friends
On episode 83 of the podcast
Matt casually mentioned Jacob Tutu
A show so bad I had completely erased it from my childhood
Memories
I even got into subpar best friends
In a while
That runs back
Actually we've been getting it
I'm sure
You're just sandbagging
You're sandbagging the fucking emails
Every week for the last two years
You see I grew up in Mexico
And this piece of shit show
Replaced the reruns of Dragon Ball Z
Oh shit
Which at the time were brand new episodes to meet
So now 13 years later
I went and watched a few episodes of Jacob Tutu
And found that while not anything
Noteworthy it isn't as bad as I remember them to be
I was just really salty about Dragon Ball
It's a DBZ killer that's like the worst
So my question is
Have you ever gone back to watch or played anything
That you thought was huge garbage
And you were just being a show
Demon Souls
Because when he first played them
I gave it two full attempts
And hated it
And on attempt number three it clicked
I was very stubborn
This is a slight variation
But when I re-bought cops
Like the animated cartoon
I was like this is going to be awful
And when I watched it I was like this actually holds up
It's not that bad
I watched like a season of it
I assumed this was going to be bad
It was going to age poorly but it was pretty good
When we played Marvel Nemesis
I was like y'all this is the best fighting game I've ever played
No
I don't do it
You like Marvel Nemesis shit
He wasn't even there when he played it
Wasn't he not there when we played it
I helped jump off the cliff a million times
So that we could unlock shit
But you weren't there when we actually sat down and recorded it
No but I helped you unlock shit
Thank you Willie
I can't think of any
I'm sure I must have had at least one
Maybe a game but
I usually hate thanks forever
Something you go back to
And it gets better
You know what the first time I played Kirby Canvas Curse
I didn't enjoy it
I really was like this is just
Oh I just thought of one
And then I stuck with it a bit more
And it warmed up but it wasn't like after a while
It was just session two or three
For me
It was a Cobra Triangle
I didn't like it very much as a kid
But I went back to it
It's one of the few cards that I had access to
And that game is good
Unbelievable good
Also Duck Hunt
I loved it as a kid
It's way better as an adult when you flip over your coffee table
And you're hiding behind it like a soldier
That game gets way better
You sure you did that as an adult
Despite your chronological age
There is an FAQ on Game Facts for Duck Hunt
And it's like twenty different ways
To play Duck Hunt
That are not traditional Duck Hunt
Including pushing your friend by
On a skateboard as he drives by as the Ducks
Oh that's good that's good stuff
It's good
I remember not having fun with
TMS Duck Hunt guide
When I was like a super baby
I was not having fun with punch out
That show was always bad
Oh god no you're thinking of mega babies
Mega mega mega mega babies
Stop stop that was trash
Na na na na na na
You are triggering memories
Na na na na na na na
I really hate that
The giant diaper filling fucking superpowers
That was the worst
And they shit and then they fill their diapers with shit
But the shit looks like pellets
And they would draw all the little indents of the pellets
That was the worst show
That was the worst show
Oh yeah it was unwatchably terrible
I bet if I remember everything about it
If I were back and watched Hey Arnold now
I would like it
I didn't like it back then
No I was fine with it
Because I fucking hate it
Hey Arnold was fine
Go back and watch fucking life with Louis
And try to handle that shit
Oh god
That is not a thing
You go back to and it turned out to be good
Oh
Louis Anderson isn't he a great child
What a great kid
That was super weird
Like he
That show was trying to be Bobby's world
Except Bobby's world was awesome
Bobby's world still
Bobby's voice annoyed me
Yeah but that was a really popular thing back then
You know what the show I went back to
And it's significantly worse
Sticking around
Oh no shut up
I love sticking around and I refuse to believe that
You know what show was shit
And will always be shit
Yeah
You remember that Digimon crossover commercial
There's an Angela Anaconda commercial
Because it aired in like the same block as Digimon
Where she's got all of Ty's shit on
What you're saying is that Angela Anaconda
Exists in the same universe as Digimon
It's just a shitty version of Pippi Longstocking
Which was already not that great
That was awful
No terrible terrible
It's the kind of art style
We're going the other way on this question
That's the kind of art style that belongs
To a 6 minute France based
Independent animation
For a contest and they win
And they win first place or third
Right right
The only one I can think of that comes close
And it's still not even the same thing
Is like I as a child adored the Muppet Show
I loved the Muppet Show
And hit a point a couple years ago
Like man I'm going to track down and watch the Muppet Show
And now you're gonzo for Muppets
And upon watching the Muppet Show
It's fucking awesome
I had no idea what the fuck I was watching
Because as an adult I could barely
Hang on to how fucking
Weird the Muppet Show is
That is for stoners
I used to watch Fragile Rock
That shit was weird too
Fragile Rock was a weird one
I guess South Park
Since we all go through the cycle of
Ha ha shit jokes and you become a teenager
And you go mom fuck the stupid shit it's not funny
Then it becomes amazing again when you get older
Well because the show itself
Was like we can not just be shit jokes
And we can actually tackle like
Issues Terrence and Phillip are the best
Representations of Canada ever
My god are they ever ok we got one
Coming in from the
I love those guys
Henry Mwabitumba
Mwabitumba the office of the ambassador
Is there an apostrophe in there
Oh please tell me this is real
Dear sirs
What is the deal with Liam's definition
Of Metroidvania oh wow
Yeah I know exactly
So let hear him out
Yeah fair fair ok
No but really ever since I heard Liam say
A Metroidvania game has to be
Has to have an exploration aspect of a Metroid game
And RPG elements it's bugged me
And the recent mention of this on the podcast
Has spurred me to finally write and ask what the deal is
For me a Metroidvania game is defined as any game
That has a large map with interconnecting zones
With an emphasis on returning to earlier
Early areas once you
Have the required gear to advance
I've asked around and literally 4 billion people
Said the same and none have mentioned
The game needs to have RPG elements
Such as Superior Points or varying equipment
With stats to be labeled a Metroidvania
To me the reason why the subgenre is even
Called Metroidvania and not a Metroid like
Or Castlevania like is because Metroid
And Castlevania are the defining
Games in the genre both featuring the above
Criteria I mentioned if all Castlevania
Brings to the definition are
RPG elements why not call it Metroid fantasy
Or Metroid Trigger
Like I know a lot of people refer to it
Like that I'm not going to fight
That's exactly how I use the term
I think it's bizarre that
It is a genre identifier
When games in the genre can have
Literally nothing of what that one brought
To the table because Metroidvania
Only started when symphony happened
Pre that it was levels and thus
Objectively games in
But pre that it was
I would say objectively not
Metroidvania no matter how you slice it
But we can use that for RE4
And so as far as
It's a Definer
That's way more than four actually
Well it's more than four even
Because there was Bloodlines and there was Rondo
And there was a lot of other stuff too
I always forget about Bloodlines
Do the rest of you agree with the definition
Or is he crazy or is this a regional thing
Like Steam Tams from the game
I think this is the thing where
If we drill down super hard
Leam's going to end up being right
In my personal common vernacular
I just use it as short hand
It's like map game go
That's exactly what I missed
I'm not going to fight anyone on that
Either because I know it's a bit
Like a weird opinion but at the same time
It's like when you get to the first
Metroidvania which is
Castlevania Symphony of the Night
Super Metroid was when it was just Metroid
You could call it a Metroidvania at the time
So when you get to the first one
I figure how do you
Define it based on the first one
And based on its immediate surroundings
It's clearly
Metroid style exploration
With RPG elements
Okay so you see it as
Level 2 Metroid like
Not as
Just the map system
Because when I look at Guacamelee
It's got almost none of thevania
It's all Metroid
Axiom Verge is like 100%
Metroid
At least in the
Eternal is just like
When people used to call it
Then why wouldn't you just call it a Metroid game
And the differentiator
In my mind is
Well you don't just call it a Metroid because it also has RPG on it
Otherwise you just call it a Metroid
Like how you call
A hunting game, a monster hunter clone
I think it just came about
As a result of
Metroid and Symphony both being
The biggest titles in the genre
Absolutely
So even though one came way before the other
They just grabbed both
For me as I like Castlevania so much more
Than I like Metroid
I just think there's
Some of them like Axiom Verge
And like
It's a fucking Metroid game
There's novania
In my mind
Metroidvania also implies
Thevania part of it is
Not shooting a weapon
Not swinging a thing
And I think that's an interesting
Take on it
But originally I do have to say that
In my head this guy's definition is
More or less what I would think as well
I think that's what most people say as well
And I think like Rogue Legacy is a good example
Of a game that's a Metroidvania
It's also a roguelike at the same time
But it's clearly got the Metroid
And it's got thevania elements of it
Clearly
And I feel like that's a good demonstration
Of probably one of the best subgenre
Discussions you've ever said
Because roguelikes are fucked
Yeah
Like God, dungeon hack
That game's fucking
Impossible
So I don't know
And I'm not going to say anyone's wrong
I'm not going to fight anyone on it
Because it's commonly accepted vernacular
But I just think it's odd that it came
To this
You're going to have to clarify your position
Yeah
What really comes down to is that
No one really did exactly
Metroid-style games down to the map
Until Symphony of the Night
And it's only with the advent of Kickstarter
Where people just
Use that as a shortcut term to describe
What they're going for
And there were no other games
Until indie games exploded
It was kind of just Castlevania games
It was kind of just Castlevania games
Or this worst kind of Metroid
This general web
Term to describe whatever
And it's not like you
Like you said you're not going to fight anyone
That says, oh my game is Metroidvania
And you're like, well no
But that's what they like
Like Titropolis
When people call it a Metroidvania
I'm looking at that and I'm like
It's rough
It's got the map
A lot of games have a map
Strider has the map
Yeah, like New Strider
Plays more like
Not Strider than anything else
Plays like
More like a Metroid game
What? So I don't know
Again, I'm not going to fight anyone
And I don't think people are wrong
I just think it's a weird distinction
And it kind of
Just weirded me out that
I've never heard anyone else say that
And so that's kind of why I say it
I feel like Shadow Complex came out
Everyone said Metroidvania
They mostly said Metroid
Everyone said Metroidvania
But there's novania to it
You level up your shit
You do, that's so much fun
I'm trying to think of any other genre
Where it's like you have two defining examples
And there isn't really
It's a very specific thing
When you say Cart Racer, it's very clear
Which one you're referencing
No one says, oh I'm making a street fury game
Or a fatal fighting game
No one knows
It's an example of everything
Yeah, I think
Hunting Games is the closest approximation
Where people just say, oh it's a monster hunter clone
When you go back to Fantasy Star online
And there might even be something
I don't even know about before that
And that's a weird one
Yeah, it's so weird to me
Where it's like, no actually
You know more about the genre than you think
Because I played PSO
And that's the same one
Thanks for asking that
Glad to talk about it
Nobody's crazy
And I'd like to think
Let's not say things we can't take back
Do I sound crazy when I explain that?
No, are you trying to
I sound crazy when I explain anything
I sound crazy when I explain anything
According to Woolly
We got one
You want to check that with the internet, sir?
Yeah
We'll get there soon
We got one coming in from Shane
And he says, hey guys
What are examples of
Fighting game characters that didn't start out that way
That are your favorites
That weren't your favorites
And then became your favorites?
For example, Dante and Marvel
He's not a fighting game character
But that had origins
Oh, you mean characters who weren't?
I'm going to say Phoenix and X23
Nerfed Phoenix in Marvel
And X23
Cool non-fighting game characters
That existed before that made a transition
Phoenix, right?
That's a pretty fun transition as well
So it's not just a favorite character
That's one of your favorites
People that got transitioned into fighting game characters
That's not a Daytona USA car
I don't even know
You fought really hard about that
It's fucking awesome
It's fucking awesome your car
I like
Shuma and
I'm serious by the way
I forgot his fucking name
The Lost Planet Mech in
PTX is a solid one
That's not bad
Where was Alex before?
You were hanging out with John Ringo
Show in the background of Onamusha 3
Uh
I don't know
I'll give it to that, that's fine
I'm serious about Daytona USA car
He's fucking cool
He's a badass, he doesn't care about anything
You know you can play as Daytona USA car
In the shitty Vita Ridge Racer
Yeah you can, it's great
The Hornet, it makes it a better game
Well it's a bad game
I know one
That's horseshit
You loved Dio way before he became a fighting game character
That doesn't count
It's not that you only like them at that point
It's like
What's our good examples of ones you like
Oh I thought you said there was a turnaround
Yeah there was a turnaround
Like I didn't like almost any other guest character
In Soul Calibur that much
Link is like different
You know what, it's when you start playing
And then like the Venice Roustals
And then you hit your superiors
Like I tried to warn you
They got it right
They got it right
What is coming up on the site?
We got Bloodborne, we got
We got Lyft
We got Lyft
The last episodes
And then we're going to
This is going to be tagging in God
Oh snap
Get the tag
But then nobody asked for more Life is Strange episodes
Until the next one's out
I know it doesn't work but I'm yelling about it
Because none of us have yet on the podcast
Matt and I will continue to keep discovering
We're Baleatons
Yeah and something starts today
If you listen to this podcast
You probably figured it out
After the bus fucking wrecking
I got last time
I'm not going to say anything about the schedule
The bus wrecking?
You're wrecking it again
By talking about it
No one would know
Hey look forward to some fishing in our future
Don't talk about it
Yeah you're doing the same thing
That old people probably never go up
At this point
The fishing
Sega Bass Fishing
Not the other fishing
No you're
What is your thing
What is the guy who reacts to innocuous statements
And then why would you
Exactly
No we were talking about Max's stream
Where he streams quote unquote
Sega Bass Fishing
He's like pulling the ref for you in trouble
Yeah that LP's never going up
It's been sitting in the limbo for decades
It's because some other game
Turns out it's way better than that
Every time
A lot of games are way better than that game
Alright boys I think we did it
We should play some Mortal Kombat 10
There's no such thing
Every single time that's come up to Ed Boon
He's gone you know it's Mortal Kombat X
Because it's like a new thing
Okay
There's no Mortal Kombat 9 either
There's just Mortal Kombat
Mortal Kombat 2011
And Boon refers to that game
As MK9
He has no standards
Mega Man X it doesn't stand for 10
It stands for X
That's why there's a Mega Man 10
With fucking sword man
Let's play Skull Girls
Mega Man 10 was fine as a thing
When we had the conceptual 9
That would join the universes together
But then they shout all over that by making Mega Man 10
Would you rather 9-2
Mega Man 9-2
And it ends
With Mega Man shooting Wily in the head
Because he refused to not kill people
And then they lock away Mega Man
And make X
And then 9-3 comes out and Wily is back
You do have experience
With absurd multiverse shit
Like the SMT multiverse
Because you went through the trouble
Of piecing together the goddamn Mega Man time
Oh fuck
Well I just gave you the best part of it
And everyone called Capcom to complain about it
You still have that image right
No, but I remade it
You're from scratch
Yeah, everyone's calling Capcom to complain
Because everyone asked where is that picture
And I was like, oh it was online all the time
I never actually had one
One time I was trying to
Find the Duck Christ Voter Man
And I couldn't find it at work
So I just made it myself
You got to get your hands dirty
I got a reverse engineer
Duck Christ Voter Man
Tomorrow I'm calling 5 everybody
The podcast is over
Today is
Buddy
Playing
Featuring the size of me
Looking for it's fate
A present from the Japan
Look through it's memory
If you want me baby
If you need me baby
If you love me baby
Rules of nature
Hey
The time has come
And so have I
Last cause you came to die
The damage started
The pain subsides
And I can see the fear clear
When I look in your eyes
What's gonna die
Is about to die
The end of the day
The end of the day
The end of the day
The end of the day
The end of the day
The end of the day
The end of the day
The end of the day
The end of the day
The end of the day
You're so hot
I don't want to go to sleep
You gotta be prove it all
You have gotta fuck this wall
I can lose control
Myself
Overhead
Blue sky
It needs you so bad
You're even so mad
You suck your blood
One
dwelling
to go back
There's no choice
But take orders to attack
Locked on been changed
I give in
To the hookers now insane
We can fight back, do it, do it
Many times we are flashed back
We can see you, baby
I need you, we can do it, do it
Come on, so let's go
Knock them out, so many rules
We can break that easy, baby
You said so, then you do
Now worry about it, you, baby
I need you, we are crazy, dizzy
Come on, so let's go
Back, back, back
They don't want you
They don't need you
They don't need you
They want to find
They want to kill you
Time to eat them all behind
Good looking
You're just too hard to suck
Don't squeeze there, just wait a minute
Are we just winning on the show?
Get down, touch down
Sway back, get back
Smack your bitch up, baby
Biggest hit now, jump it up
Take off, need your blood
I've waited out of my day
Nothing fair, true, nothing game
From my own master now
Bad fuck, I must go
Shame, blood, onto these stars
But I will survive somehow
I'm the master now