Castle Super Beast - SBFC 100: Goosebumps: God Arrange
Episode Date: July 7, 2015Fact checking has officially ruined this podcast....
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Live from Montreal, the best camera!
You got the Chewy and Fuckface show!
Chewy and Fuckface!
Episode 100!
Yay!
Everything is awesome, it's great, it's great!
Hey, we're back with the...
Hey, shut the fuck up!
We're back with our, uh, longtime guest friend of the show, Shikig...
Wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on.
It's Liam!
How the fuck off, Chewy?
Happy birthday!
Happy birthday, Liam!
How old are you?
I'm 23 all year long, oh my god.
What the fuck are we doing with our lives?
How old are you, Liam?
23.
Really? Your reflexes are still sharp, Liam.
No, I'm losing them.
They're sharp like a fucking buzzer?
Yeah!
Good job, Liam.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, we gotta bring it down a bit.
Chewy, you gotta bring it down a bit.
We gotta get a little bit serious.
Who do we have over here?
It's the shit king, ladies and gentlemen!
The shit king has cleared to have you back.
He's so homie!
How was it at the shit home?
Oh, we had a lot of Halloween in the shit home today.
We had some great guests over at the shit home today.
Really? Yeah!
Wow, this is a mess!
Where are the guests?
Other members of the shit royal family.
No, no, we had some outside neighbors coming into the shit kingdom.
There's a cow apparently!
Oh, there's a horse over there too!
You have a pan of sound effect, Chewy?
Yeah, though there's crickets apparently.
Oh, fuck it.
Okay, listen up!
This is serious business!
We need to get down to some serious business, you guys.
Okay, what's going on?
Before we get too excited, everybody needs to know
we've got a special announcement to make.
Special announcement!
Hallelujah!
Yes, yes, yes!
Thank God it's on!
It's Friday!
Is it?
It's not Friday.
I thought my calendar was mixed up there.
But to all you loyal Chewy and fuck-facers,
it's Friday every day!
Should we be Chewy and the face fuckers?
No, it's the fuck-facers.
The fuck-facers.
Shit King, we've been on a hundred of these episodes
and you don't remember the fuck-facers?
It feels like it's been forever.
It does feel like it's been forever, shit King.
Oh, jeez.
What's going on here?
Chewy, I don't think you can use that sound effect.
I can't believe we lack a farting sound effect.
That's close enough.
That's close enough.
That's why they call you shit King.
I guess so.
Hey, Liam.
I don't know, did you?
What would you say?
You do here.
Because I don't know.
You need to get off that fucking soundboard right now.
You can kill him.
You won't take his soundboard away.
Now you can.
Liam, I've got a question to ask you.
I'm going to need you to go ahead and come in tomorrow.
Is that possibility?
Yeah.
We were just kind of already spoke about this.
I'm also going to need you to go ahead and come in on Sunday.
Yeah.
We've got to record those things, man.
We've got to record those things, man.
It's fine.
All right, yeah.
All right.
Did you get it?
Did you get it?
Is it funny yet?
I don't know if you give it a little bit.
Chewy is the premier shock jock podcaster of the era.
You seem to have taken a bizarre somber tone
for our goofy, rippurorously hilarious podcast extravaganza
100 episode book.
We're still waking up.
It's nice and early and everyone needs to...
No, Mike is listening to this four hours from now.
Yeah, yeah.
Mike is listening.
He's eating his delicious cornflake.
We've got to give Mike some applause.
Some big ups.
Mike Zero Dude, he came out this weekend
down to the Montreal Comic Con.
Oh, he went?
Yes, because I had a moment with him
talking and I was like,
it's like, are you gone?
That was the whole conversation.
Then he met up with us
and we partook in his
mysterious homemade ice cream.
Did he give you that fucking durian shit?
He gave me durian ice cream.
He gave me...
I have to eat some of that cornflakes ice cream,
which was really good.
No, no, I was super apprehensive.
I'm like, what is this concoction
that man was not meant to know?
You're going to eat the durian ice cream,
and the problem with the cornflake one
is going to freak out.
No, no, the initial idea
is that we had the cornflake ice cream
and it was delicious.
The durian still tasted like durians,
which means awful.
I didn't even try it.
You got the durian-shaped bullet.
It got weird though when he shouted,
the day is mine.
I didn't know why you did that.
It's weird because he's got French feet
and he's accent.
You'll eat
the fucking second hottest pepper
in the world.
You'll eat cake that's 100 days old.
You won't fucking eat
a good friend of yours
ice cream gift.
But he's right to do it.
I hate durians.
You are literally looking a gift
horse in the mouth.
I didn't try it yet.
Maybe I should try it.
Don't talk to me. I'm on my popcorn break.
I don't remember.
I don't even know what to fuck with.
I remember playing suit martin's sunshine.
It said, pick up a durian.
And I said, fuck you.
I don't know what that is.
I don't know what it looks like.
It smells like shit.
You can't believe people decide to eat either way though.
Either way, the other flavors
so far have been fine.
Strawberry was great too.
Strawberry ice cream is probably pretty good.
I know it's shocking
to some listeners out there.
It was pretty solid.
But it is actually a special episode.
It is our
100th episode.
It's Jingle Bells.
Best one Santa's 100 years old every year
confirmed.
We survived 100 episodes
in a final episode
of the Surveillance Cats.
Out with a whisper.
Now that we have succeeded in our goal
we can now ritually kill ourselves
into the spaceship.
That was the contract that everyone signs
for our podcast.
Once you're 100, you're out the door.
Those podcasts
with hundreds of episodes
those are robots.
We're old and obsolete.
You're fucking 23 you bitch.
Very nice. The podcast.
The podcast is old.
There's a lot of people
that were hoping that we'd have
a super crazy guest line.
It's
there's some cool stuff planned.
I don't
remember the use of it.
But some people seem to want
the entire Seattle Mariners team.
They want a nice
round table podcast.
Who came Griffey up in here?
I don't remember who it was
that wrote this post.
But it was somebody on our Reddit
that had
what do you think they're going to do for episode 100
that had the suggestion of what if
the entire episode was a chewy and fuck base.
At which point I go to Lisa's
just get a soundboard, just get a fucking soundboard.
That shit's the best.
So where the fuck that was?
It's your fault.
It's all very nice.
It's also a very common thing because
I didn't see that post.
But I just want to talk to one of you and just said
we should just probably be like
I just came to it naturally.
We should probably become a chewy and fuck base.
We should just record a legit intro
for the chewy and fuck face show.
Like you would hear at the beginning of that
power hour on the radio.
Yeah, that's too much work.
If there's one thing about this podcast
is that sometimes if it's too much work
it doesn't happen.
But Liam, you look like you're taking damage.
A little bit.
It's fucking hot. This is the first day of summer
in Montreal.
It's the first day that I walked outside
and I felt the air.
I need some type of suit
to help me deal with this.
We almost narrowly
missed having a guest because Cranky
Construct was up in town for the last couple of days.
Up in town.
But he left as of early this morning.
Up in shit keep.
Yeah.
I'll start off
to say I, Cranky Construct
and him and I were talking for a bit and I said
you should come for the Montreal Comic Con.
You might come down and see some fun
things or whatever. You can stay with me
if you like and he took me up on the offer
and we picked him up
and we did some things.
He came over and...
It sounds really suspicious.
It's not actually because I kind of said
hey would you want to do some videos with this as well.
Now it's less suspicious.
We have to pull that soundboard out of the way.
No, I don't know.
I disagree.
There's the thing that's genius about this soundboard.
Wooly was lazy
to not get a real soundboard.
Instead, using the PC that we are recording
this podcast on
he has the goddamn soundboard
up like connected via whatever.
So you can't fuck with this soundboard.
Did he even hit record?
Yeah.
We're going.
This podcast can now not be undone.
Yeah.
We have put too much effort into it.
It's the best.
But yeah, Cranky showed him around town
you know.
Hey, Poutine Fest was also this weekend.
Yeah, everything was this weekend.
If you want to taste the Montreal
come eat these cheese curds
and gravy and
fries and
Poutine Fest was insane.
It was just masses and masses of people
could bear.
It was so great that we got out of that
overstuffed conference hall
that the Comic Con was in
and go likewise.
And a place that was even busier
and about an hour wait
to get Poutine in some kiosks.
But it was worth it.
Tourist town is how it is.
Missism and Mussels took him and some other friends
and they went to
regular Poutine.
You all flight?
You can't go anywhere with the multiple flavors
before you know Poutine.
Not from goddamn anywhere but Cadet.
Yeah.
I remember Wally mentioning last year
Poutine and I was like, I need to fucking try this.
So I found the one kiosk at General Tau Poutine
which just basically replaces
the gravy
with a General Tau sauce
and just tongue to General Tau.
I enjoyed it quite a bit.
Really, really liked it.
We did that.
I brought him around the Montreal Comic Con
which is even bigger than last year
like an expanded one.
Montreal San Diego Comic Con.
This is basically our San Diego Comic Con.
The York San Diego Comic Con.
I heard that the actual Comic Con
is pretty flustered about the Montreal
usage of the name and it's going to be
pursuing legal...
Are you for real?
Aren't they affiliated those two?
I heard the San Diego one was going to be
pursuing legal shit.
Comic convention, really?
Well Comic Con is their name.
It's been their name and it's...
Liam, are you still in the pond beef?
Just saying, I heard it.
It's like Pac's Montreal.
Yeah, that's a little bit.
It's actually a Roman convention.
We enjoyed it quite a bit.
Lots of stuff. Cranky got himself a really
cool art book of art of
a game that he wasn't familiar with
but people were throwing him this art
and he trapped down the art book
so he enjoyed getting that.
Well you guys, I walked in there
and you just pointed at the eyes of
Bayonetta II.
The Bayonetta II art book was just sitting there.
And I saw, I gathered up some
links and a couple of papercliffs
and paid for that. Somehow.
We went to the Final Fantasy
concert which is called
The New World which is very interesting
because it's an intimate 14 piece
orchestra and it was like, we're going to play
some of the lesser known things, we're going to play the theme of the Red Wings,
we're going to play some town themes
and I'm just sitting there
I'm with him, I'm with
a dork friend and we just
and I just go, come on back to Xenokin!
Back to Xenokin!
They had a piano on the stage?
They had a piano on the stage because
they know that they have to do it
and then they go, we're going to play some music now
from Final Fantasy Xenokin
Hey one wing danger!
So they start playing back to Xenokin
and they're playing
a beautiful rendition of it
I of course start cracking up
because I think of the porn box
during it.
That episode of Pedia man.
I start having a good laugh
and they play one track from 13
and they go, okay
who is a fan of Final Fantasy 13?
And there's a long pause
and then like
five hands go up!
Billy, stand up!
Is this the battle music?
The best track.
No it wasn't the battle music.
There's some good tracks.
There are some good ones.
It was a really interesting
like
kind of theater experience
because they're like, this is kind of chamber music.
You can hear every individual instrument
and all that.
So we noticed that
we haven't played music from a certain game
and everyone starts getting riled up
and they're like, so I'm really excited
for the remake of Final Fantasy 7
the composer says and I've worked with
Uematsu and lots of stuff
and he and I put together this concert.
So we're going to play for you of course
and it's essentially the crowd just goes nuts
and they go, but
we want to have some crowd interactions
so you guys are going to sing
with us.
And you want to do, when I point to you
da da da!
You want to say, you know what you want to say
so we do that
and as it gets to the part
I don't know why, but I started getting really psyched up
and we all started shouting stuff
and Cranky almost fell out of his chair
because he's like, I didn't know
you were going to scream
and I was like, oh no, I was really into it.
Did the crowd start harmonizing as well?
No, just a separate thing, it's a little
kind of difficult to try to get one
in harmony, but it was really fun.
Oh yeah, it's all a lot.
Yeah, it was about an hour long
and it cost almost nothing. If you had a Comic-Con ticket
it cost you like...
It was held in the convention, right?
Yeah, it was just awkward to.
I went around looking for a games room,
found a tabletop room
and Nash was being run all weekend.
I don't know where though.
I'm at Steve Bloom
who of course we've talked about
at least once in every LP ever.
Because he's in all of them.
And I asked him to do
a very specific thing on camera
for something, you know, a project later on.
But this is one of those times
where I just don't know exactly why
but I just stumbled
and buried...
Hey Mr. Bloom,
so...
Willie would have loved to
have watched me do this.
The cringe power.
Is this because like you spent so many
like thousands of words
disparaging his placement in games?
Not disparaging it, but always making
note of it. And he goes,
so I'm a big fan, I got...
I play games
and he goes, hi, hi.
Oh my god, this is how I...
This is how we act when someone's
asking doesn't know how to...
And it reminds me it's like just
all you have to do is be courteous.
And he was super, super nice.
And said, yeah, no, I'll say that on camera, no problem.
And I go, okay, alright, I got my...
I got my mic. Oh,
I haven't put it in my camera.
Oh!
And I got him to say it on camera.
I'm sorry, I'm being a little aloof about it.
But he was super, super nice.
And Cranky was watching me from
before he goes, man, that was embarrassing.
I'm sorry.
Oh, the lens cap is a little...
It was a little much.
And really, really quick, they kind of wrap everything up.
I did an adult thing, which is after I had fun
at Comic-Con, buying lots of crap,
I went to a baby shower.
It's the most adult thing you could ever do.
Even if you're not the one that's having a baby.
I went to a baby shower.
And they go, alright, we have lots of fun activities
and almost none of them are fun.
Except for the one which is like we have blank onesies
for the baby, draw whatever.
We have a picture on Twitter
of a Punisher Skull
with a pink bow on the front.
And what I think is a very
accurate drawing of Godzilla.
And lots of people seem to enjoy it.
And everyone's going, oh, Matt, oh!
Your audience is someone that will not have
object permanence. They'll like it just fine.
A baby won't even know that, you know.
Babies are dumb as shit.
Babies are pretty dumb. So that was pretty fun.
And kind of finally,
me and Cranky have
like what I think is now a grudge
in Tetris Attack.
Where we played about two hours last night
and
straight down the middle,
four games for him, four games for me,
matches that would go into four minutes.
This is eternity in Tetris Attack time.
And my eyes started hurting because it wasn't
blinking. And no,
I literally, when you hear
the sounds of build up
when someone's putting trash
on your screen.
There's times where you dread it.
And then there's times where I feel like
if you recall the sketch that Will Farrell did
where he plays that crazy boss
that stabs his own employees to death.
And then Chris Parnell
comes around with a trident
and a net and goes, oh,
I'm coming to kill you, Mr. Tarzare.
And he goes, oh, Scott
Jorgerson, I love it.
I'm going to murder you.
I can just see how that goes right in
Anchorman.
When you hear the sounds of build up
of Cranky putting trash on you,
I go, I love it.
I can't wait to get this trash from you.
And I had
a blast playing out with him.
I watched a bunch of Steven Universe
and you had your own adventure with Cranky,
so I'll push it all over to you now.
All right. Well, you know, one thing
was a bit of a bummer.
It was because of the weekend with
MTL Comic-Con and Cranky was in town
and stuff and everything.
We had time for Splatfest.
He and I missed it.
Everyone missed it.
It was a bummer, man.
Dogs won, though.
Dogs won.
What is Splatfest exactly?
It's just a weekend where you shoot more aggressively.
Especially like the
Hubworld changes.
It looks cool, like fireworks and stuff.
Theme weekend, exactly.
There's going to be more.
You can choose to fight for dogs or cats.
And there's an easier, cheaper
re-roll gift or something.
Cats don't play like shit because they're too independent.
They don't know how to play as a team.
And they do the bare minimum.
They let down their team one last time.
Oh, we lost? Oh, fuck it.
There we go.
Just shitting on Zack hard.
Zack doesn't give a fuck.
He doesn't play video games as much as he used to.
He's getting out of the game.
But no, so what happened was at the con
I got to meet Jay Lee and
I had him sign my
Transformers vs J. Joe comic books.
Yeah, I finally
I fucking
went home and brought my comics back.
Oh, you actually went home.
I saw him like, oh shit, Jay Lee's here.
Went and got my six comics and brought them back.
And the really nice guy
is cool. His art is so fucking good.
And then
me
myself, Mike Zero Dude
and Cranky came back to my place
and we just fucking just binged some anime.
So I can actually do
Liam's segment a little bit.
What did you watch? I watched a lot.
What's the length of your binge?
You watched a bunch of different things.
We sampled a bunch of different things
and then stuck to a couple episodes.
What's the length of the binge?
That says everything right up front.
Is it like 12 hours?
No. It's 5
to 11.
That's your standard thing.
I can give
some of the
my slight review on some things.
Did you watch anything?
I mean, I always watch stuff.
I just don't talk about it because people don't like hearing about it.
Okay.
We're going to take up the mantle.
We're going to go over that sentiment.
I said I don't want this.
I'll paint the cross around me.
So obviously
first episode of Dragon Ball Super came out
and I couldn't get less of a shit.
I'm super happy.
Talk to me.
I'm going to care when I hear it's good.
Okay.
Of course it's good.
I drive a tractor.
Really?
We watched different magic news chagas.
I didn't watch them.
If you know what it is,
it's the beginning of a new arc.
Nothing much to say so far.
The intro is a lot of feels for people
and I'm like, yeah, that's a Dragon Ball intro.
Did you just watch New Stuff that just started?
Oh, I haven't.
It all started this week.
I've been out of town.
I watched four or so episodes
of Garo
that shows fucking cool.
That's not new.
But that shows cool.
Fun stuff.
If you like that shit, jump on board.
It's very similar to Caress
in the sense that he uses CG
for the main character.
It just doesn't look bad.
It works.
They find a way to make it work.
Watch the first episode of
Blood Battle Blockade
which is the new Yasuo Naito series.
Try Gun.
Gun Grave Guy.
That seems like
introduction of
dudes that fight
and things and whatnot.
Tough guys that punch shit
in a city full of weird looking humans
and aliens and shit like that.
It can go any direction right now.
It could end up being great
or it could end up being shit.
It's a standard intro.
Seems alright,
but
it's not quite Try Gun or Gun Grave yet.
I need a stronger grip than that
so far.
He showed me...
It wasn't even a full episode, but he showed me
the best part of
is it okay to pick up girls in the dungeon?
Famachi.
Dungeon-ni or whatever.
It's a fight where
he fights a troll and that things cool.
But the rest of that
is just dumb, generic,
Japanese fantasy shit.
It's a fun show, but there's not a lot going on.
I can't handle that garbage.
I'm not interested at all.
Then we watched
Gate.
Which is fucking cool. I like the premise of that.
That one just started.
One episode so far.
I think I put it on my list of stuff to watch.
So the premise of this show, Gate,
is in modern day Japan
a portal opens up
and a bunch of
orcs and
bad guys from an old fantasy RPG
kind of thing come riding through
and attack the city in dragons and shit.
Emergency happens, but it's one Gate.
They kill a bunch of people because it's like
oh shit, what the fuck's going on.
The Japanese self-defense force
gets a grip of the situation
and then just murders them with modern day weapons
and they stand no chance whatsoever.
No chance?
Tanks versus cablery.
So they kill off the invading force
and then the Gate's just there so they're like
well fuck it, we're gonna go find out what's going on in there.
And they ride through
and they see just random
roves of cobalts
and shit like that.
And it seems like this series is gearing up to just be
modern day military
just rolling over old fantasy
enemies.
You're describing like
a mix between like
the world of Warcraft and Shin Megami Tensei plots.
In a way?
But the demons in Shin Megami Tensei
can vent for themselves?
And in this it's just
it's a complete one-sided fight.
What the fuck is the name of that fantasy novel
The Darksword Trilogy by fucking Margaret Wies and Tracy Hickman?
Oh.
Like that shit where it's just straight up future tech
versus magic.
That shit's great.
Oh no, it's terrible.
But I love how one-sided it is so far
and I'm like please continue this.
They hint at like some kind of
you know like there's some magical girls and shit
that are eventually gonna show up.
Exactly, I'm really hoping it doesn't shit the bed.
Because so far I like I asked you
what I was gonna get good.
And then I watched
Gangsta.
I just had time to watch the intro.
Dude.
Gangsta is the shit.
A lot of people have been throwing this at us.
This show is the fucking shit.
Like in one episode.
Hookline and Sinker.
It's just it introduces characters
it has a nice like the intro is very
stylish in a persona kind of way.
The music is very well presented
and whatnot. And then the actual events that occur
are like
not trophy, your characters are
you know they're written well.
It's not just fucking animu, animu shit.
It looks great.
It looks great. But like
it's just refreshing.
When it's like oh you're doing something new.
Good job.
I highly highly recommend it.
There's one episode out so far.
So you know
you're trying to jump on board.
Yeah.
Before you are you moving off of anime?
Yeah.
Last time you were watching
before we started off. That's on the docket.
That's on the docket? Yeah.
That is so good.
That's so good. That's on the docket.
And
comics did you pick up the comics
or did you have any time to read anything?
Not to read anything. You and I both
picked up stand on guard.
We stand on guard.
I read that and good start.
Is it better than why?
No.
It's really hard to be why.
I know I know. That's why I'm putting that out there.
It's really hard to be Saga. But it's a strong start.
It's a strong start.
That is the huge mosquito I've ever seen in my life.
You want to clap it?
No. Go away.
You're ruining the hundredth podcast
mosquito.
It's over there on Woolie's pants.
That's fine.
This piece of box is getting it.
There you go.
We stand on guard. Strong start.
How are these two so good?
We're doing great.
And I'm going to stop playing.
I just have to say that I think
I'm going to stop playing.
I've never seen this type of thing
before. God is so thunder.
I got Spider-Gwen number 1.
I got the trade paperback of Marvel now.
Is Spider-Gwen worthy of platinum
wanting to do it again?
Spider-Gwen is always fucking cool.
There was one guy that had a Spider-Gwen
of Woolie that like this weekend
official this thing.
Spider-Gwen
is the Marvel now version
of She-Hulk trade paperback.
I got a ton of stuff.
I haven't had time to read any.
I got The Darkness
versus
Witchblade versus Alien
versus Predator.
Minehunter. Your mind will never
be the same. It's shit.
It's a bad, bad car.
That's good stuff. But your mind
was the same.
I thought you were about to say something
with Witchblade was good.
This is not much that Witchblade is great.
What about Witchblade versus Fathom?
What about Fathom?
We found out this weekend.
We found out this weekend.
We're going.
I've been barely managing to hold on
for most of this conversation.
But now you've totally lost me.
Okay.
What the fuck is that?
All you need to know is
Wetworks continued.
No, I'm good.
I think I know now.
I don't want to take too much time.
I ended up reading a ton of comics as well.
The Ultimate Comics Spider-Man,
Miles Morales,
intro book.
He's getting rolled in.
I can see what people are talking about now
where it's hard to introduce
Miles Morales in a world without Peter
because
Peter's important to the way
Miles gets into his role.
He inspires them.
He's basically the Uncle Ben
in his story.
Over miles,
don't go rustling one day
because
that's embarrassing.
It's so embarrassing.
I was super loud.
Got a Tank Girl comic.
That was crazy.
I also got the new
Black Canary number one, which was awesome.
And the thing I tried to find all weekend
in every single, every single vendor
and there was a lot of them
at the Montreal Comic-Con. Do you have
Gem? No.
No one has Gem in all grams.
We sold out ages ago.
We don't have any. Stop asking me.
And I was like, sorry, I didn't know I already asked you.
You fucking Gem fans
asking the comic that you like.
The only thing
other thing we're talking about
is Rat Queens.
Volume one and two.
Yeah, looks really cool.
The Cosplay Friends
that I was hanging out with in Toronto,
they introduced me to the Rat Queens
and it's fucking great. Two volumes of that
that I've checked out so far are
it's basically a fantasy
like D&D campaign
like from the point of view
of people that are
speaking with modern day vernacular
and
God, that'd be refreshing.
It's funny and
a cool adventure and shit.
The character designs and the way they
kind of handle things is like
yeah, that's original, that's fun.
You're having fun with that. Highly recommend it.
Check it out.
It's probably going to get
way more popular in the coming volumes.
I saw it
at Indigo this weekend and I was kind of intrigued
because I was already buying too many books.
That's neat. I didn't play any games
because I was pretty
but Mike and Cranky had good
time so thanks for hanging out.
Liam.
So this week
I lost my week, thank you.
I lost my weekend to my birthday.
Once again, time fell victim to my birthday
but no, I got to hang out with my family.
It was really nice. I just went
in the country and did country things
with my family, looked at old photos,
saw animals, killed animals.
Did you go to your old room?
Yeah, of course.
Does your mom keep you the exact same?
No. Not at all.
She has to update the guest room now.
Okay.
That's what happens.
You know what happens? You move out
and your parents immediately sell the house
because they can't deal. There's that.
That's what happens.
Or they turn your room into the guest room
or they turn your room into the sex dungeon.
There's no need.
You got some stuff.
Do you mind telling me what some of that stuff you got
that you were like, uh, thank you,
or is it stuff that's too big?
Just like, yeah, my family once again
buying me overly large presents.
A crock pot and a bunch of cooking pans
that are fucking great.
So I'm going to use those a lot.
Matt actually bought me a really nice gift
but I'm not going to talk. No, I'm just kidding.
You bought me the really big like churno-alpha
18-inch figure.
You can use it as a light source
Let's go out. I plan on it.
Hey, I got you early.
Yeah, exactly.
Does it fit?
Totally fits. I haven't got one video yet.
Don't talk about what it is.
You want to drop it.
My last opportunity hasn't happened yet.
Ask if it fits.
That ass brace.
Yeah, it fits right in there.
I have bridal.
Anyway, I bought
Junji Ito's new book.
Oh, god damn it.
Fragments of horror.
I'm a really big fan of Junji Ito.
I like him a lot.
This is his first published book in
either eight or six years.
I can't remember which one it was.
It's a lot weaker than his old stuff.
And like he says in the afterward
that like when he was doing the drafts
for the first one, he was like,
this isn't coming together.
He said in the afterward,
I felt by the end of it
that he got back into the room.
I like the book.
It's quirky, but
it's a bunch of one-shot horror.
He's successful and rich
and he's not living through the horrors anymore.
He is not rich.
Really?
Really.
You need to be like Kishi Moto
to be successful.
When I was inspired all the way,
I didn't get it
when I asked at a bookstore
if they had Junji Ito's stuff.
But since he hadn't published anything
in either six or eight years,
they didn't have anything and the guy didn't know
who I was talking about at a fucking manga store.
Wow.
He is not famous.
This path to somewhat mediocrity
means that
Junji Ito is the perfect person to take over
from Yura and finish Berserk.
Yeah, yeah, basically.
So I can only recommend it to people
who really like Junji Ito's stuff.
Would you categorize me as somebody
who likes Junji Ito?
Do you?
You would know.
I read Uzumaki and I read
Amigara Falls
and I had
extreme emotional reactions
to those works
and I hate them so much
because they did exactly
what they were supposed to do.
That means you're a fan.
You should be more of a stuff though.
That's really cool stuff.
There's this one that he wrote called Long Dream, right?
Let me be a fucking huge coward, please.
This one, Long Dream, right?
It's a horror manga, of course.
The deal is this guy comes into the hospital
and he explains to the doctors,
I've been having long dreams
and the doctor says, what do you mean?
And he's like, they last a fucking long time.
The other night I was asleep for 48 hours.
We felt like 48 hours.
Two days passed in my dream
and the next day I was asleep for four days
and they passed in my dream.
And so they monitor in the hospital
and he just keeps staying asleep
for longer and longer periods of time.
In reality, he's only asleep for one night.
But time starts to speed up.
But for him, eventually he starts waking up
and he can't deal because he's been married
and had children in his dreams
and then it's all gone and he can't tell.
And eventually the dream world
is taking more time than the real world
so it's more real to him.
It's an adventure time episode
with an ex-man character that has similar issues as well.
That's actually similar
to a plot point in Virtue's Last Reward
as well, actually.
Yeah, it's similar.
It came first anyway.
How is Liam pitching the scary thing
and you're the one that's like, no, I don't want all this.
Genji Ito is the only horror thing
that I love.
Because you get to handle turning the page
at the pace you'd like.
No, for some reason it doesn't scare me.
It's thrilling and it's like,
I don't know if I've read this conversation in front of you
but I've had it in front of Matt a bunch of times.
It's like, I love horror games
because most horror games, back when I played them
when I was like 11, they weren't actually that scary.
I like horror themes.
I like horror imagery
but I don't actually want to be scary.
Okay.
I find the written word is not as scary
as like a visual.
Like it just doesn't affect me that way
so when I see like an image,
like I read a story that it was like
scary stories for kids.
It was the actual
story was not as scary as about ants, a kid
that abuses his ants in his ant farm.
There was an image of a bunch
of ants crawling into his eyeball.
Yeah, there you go.
So fuck this story, the illustration scared the shit out of me though.
You should look at Genji Ito's shit
because that's the kind of stuff.
I haven't seen Matt yet.
No, you're right though.
The Gashley Crumb Tinnies.
Look at all these children and how they died
Genji Ito is like Goosebumps Max.
Max.
Goosebumps Sky Mission.
Yeah, Goosebumps God Arrange.
Goosebumps God Arrange.
God Arrange is good.
That's true.
Thank you, there we go.
Goosebumps the best.
No, he's still, I love him
but yeah, I don't think his new stuff is as good as his old stuff
but I still really recommend it
if you do like his old stuff.
Yeah, exactly.
So this week other than my birthday
I went through and just finished
completely infamous First Light
which is the standalone DLC
for Second Son.
It's the thing that's not really cool
the paper powers.
Still pissed.
That there's no paper powers.
That would have brought me in.
What you should be pissed about
is how lame the concrete power is.
It's not that too.
But after taking a sufficient
long break from Second Son
which I finished way long time ago
20 years ago
I came back to Last Light
where it was called and I just had a blast
for the 3 hours that it was.
Is it just the same neon powers as Desmond?
Fetches is adjusted and she's like
way stronger than Desmond.
No, not Desmond.
Desmond is Desmond.
She's way stronger
and way more capable than Desmond.
Beating Northman Baker.
Yeah.
But I had a really fun time.
That one's mostly like challenge arenas and stuff
so it's fun, arcade-y shit.
I really enjoy that.
And it played a bunch of J-Stars Victory Versus.
So I came from the Japanese version
when that launched and I didn't feel too strongly
about the Japanese one.
I do prefer it in English for sure
just because I can understand it
even though the story's kind of schlocky.
And I like some of the tweaks that they've made.
Like, well you've played it a little bit, right?
No? Okay.
So when you knock someone down and they get up
they have invincibility frames
like well into their attacks.
Oh wow.
Like really long invincibility frames.
It's annoying.
You get the hard knock down
they have the advantage.
You have to run away.
It used to be even worse.
Now they've reduced it to like only
two seconds when you're standing there.
That's how the epic battle works.
It's like virtual on almost
in like some ways where it's like
you're flashing invincible for a while.
The structure is very similar to like
the Gundam Versus or virtual on stuff.
But it's not as punchy, it's not as quick,
it's not as good.
Like it's really fun and enjoyable
just like fan service stuff
and there's a lot of content to go through.
But man there's a bunch of tweaks that they could have made
and just made it significantly more fun.
So I don't know.
I feel like the Rock, Paper, Scissors game isn't there.
They pick up and they have the advantage.
I mean I bought it, I gotta spend some time.
But like one thing I'm curious about is like
games like this usually have
bullshit for stages.
Just boring alley
boring Namek planet
boring fucking
field.
Is it anything interesting?
Or the stages have too much bullshit
that kills you.
What are you talking about?
DBZ Infinite Arizona
No, they're not flat.
Like definitely you'll get to towns and stuff.
You'll get a Dr. Slump stage with the buildings.
You get Namek of course as you expect.
You can go in the water and stuff.
Vegetable Sky from Toriko has vegetables all over the place.
But they're not like
thrilling stages.
You know what I mean? They're just there.
They're alright. That's how I feel about the whole game.
It's just there, it's alright.
Which we could tell from the trailer of it more or less.
Yeah, no exactly.
It's better than the Japanese version for sure
with the exception of
no anime songs.
Which the Japanese version
you could pay extra.
I have that. I have it.
And I got to this version
and I'm like shit, I don't have all the cool songs anymore.
So I can't play like
Sonochino's Sadame when I go into like
power-up mode and stuff.
That's a huge skit.
I used to have it set to listen to the stereo
every time you power up but I can't do that anymore.
It's alright.
If you felt
bummed that you could never get the
Jump DS games for years and years and years
maybe you'll want to play this
but it's not a good place to play.
At least for the novelty of it.
It's enjoyable but not
We'll play this game.
It sounds like a little grandma.
We'll likely see more of this in the future.
I'm sure you four guys will be bummed
by the lag because Goku's not one of the
I said you four guys.
That's all. One, two, three, four of you.
One, two, three, four of you.
He's not one of the headliners
anymore in this one.
In this one it's Naruto, Luffy,
Guy from Bleach, and Toriko.
Toriko is the guy
who's eating food things.
I hate that guy.
He's super cool.
He looks like Goku.
He has an orange outfit.
No, I don't want to fuck you, Toriko.
If you saw the guy you knew totally what the fuck he deserves.
I got a copy of Toriko
of Volume 1.
I don't know.
It's weird though considering
of all the times you swap out Goku
you do it at the time when Goku's coming back.
Now remember, this game came out
like a year ago.
That's true.
Goku wasn't back yet.
You got to unlock all the Joestars.
The Joestars, the Fist of the North Star characters,
Bobobo.
Everyone you want to play as.
Everyone you want to play as.
Everyone you want to ask,
and sorry to presumptuous,
but since we're piggybacking off Liam's birthday,
we have a party favor here.
Are we doing that later or doing that now?
You didn't tell me about it, so I don't know.
I did.
When you walked in, you just said I have this.
These are fireworks.
Is that later?
I'm concerned about the temperature in the room.
I'm not informed on where this is going,
but here's what we're going to do.
We're going to take a quick commercial break
with the Joestars.
We're going to come back.
We're going to get here from Pat,
and then we're going to see what's going on with Pat.
Let's do that.
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What you got?
Cake.
That makes sense.
Sounds good.
Do you want to describe your week while we eat cake?
Yeah, sure.
Do you have this word?
Yes, it was.
I hit 60.
How many hours are you at?
You just dropped a number on me.
That was a serious number.
That was a number that is the kind of thing
where I'll email you and you'll be like,
are you okay?
Is everything okay over there?
As part of the Heavensward expansion,
they've added the commands
that you can type into the chat,
which is playtime.
How much have you lost in life?
And lists your hour count
in days.
So there's your first danger warning
in which your hour count
is no longer listed in hours.
It's now listed in days.
And the last time I checked it,
which was like two days ago,
it was at
20 days
and 13 hours.
That's a lot of hours.
And that was two days ago.
It's been like
all Monster Hunters combines now.
So Monster Hunters shit in your eyes now.
Completely confirmed.
I guess that's how it is.
I guess that's how it is.
Mrs. Moon Muscles made this cake
with is a vanilla
with fun party colors.
It's got like a berry
icing that's really fun.
I can smell it from here.
Is that the B for baby?
Or baby shower?
Happy birthday Senpai.
Oh, actually.
Okay.
I'm not going to talk too much about it.
We can't distract ourselves with the cake.
I'm not going to talk that much about it.
The expansion is fantastic.
That's what I hear.
I'm very excited because tomorrow
the raid is coming out.
Which is something I didn't think I would care about.
Because I always shit all over people.
As late as this morning
for caring about the raid
but then they put the trailer out
and it looks cool.
That actually looks like it will be a lot of fun.
So like 10 episodes ago
when Pat said
I think I'm going to
dip a little back in
It was 5 or 6.
Not even 10.
It feels like it was 10.
In that space he's played almost
an entire month.
No.
2 thirds of an entire month.
I started in April.
Put the cake in your face hole and feel shame.
I don't feel shame at all.
If this was Street Fighter
what's the difference?
I know you're playing on a PC.
Absolutely.
I have a legitimate question.
I'm sure you know well about the PS4 stuff
and you play with people who play on PS4.
I'm really curious.
How hard does this game struggle
to be played in remote play?
I don't know man.
Because you would be the only one who would know.
It's never come up.
It is never come up.
The cake's pretty good.
It's pretty good.
Someone on Tumblr asked
how many hours have you put into
your favorite thing?
How many breads have you eaten in your life?
There was a point
in our lives
where when Willie was done with work
or I'd be done with class I would go to his house and play 3rd strike
until I had to take the last bus home.
We were doing that like 4 nights a week
for like 2 years.
And that was the state of affairs.
There's nothing else to do.
There's no one else who's going to play 3rd strike for 10 hours
and be at the same quality
as the other person was.
And you know what?
No regrets.
Those are some of my fondest memories.
It's all kind of one big memory.
I can't remember.
That kind of makes it better.
Every time I think about the old college classrooms
one classroom
that we played in.
The one on the fucking north end.
My number 2 specific.
Game's fantastic.
That being said
not intervention worthy
yet.
I should mention that I was chucking a red bull
coming in here
because I have not gone to bed
since 2 o'clock yesterday.
I got an idea.
You tell us
to have an intervention for you.
I spoke to you about this
at the last podcast.
When I came over to record
a fucking
Dormento and I said
I know I'm not in like I was in
with WoW
because I got here on time.
Because when I was playing WoW
in Seijep
I don't need to go to class.
I can miss today.
I don't need to do this.
I don't need to be with Animal Crossing
on the game.
I don't need to do that test.
Let us know.
We'll set up the camera
and you get to do the
No, the difference is
I'm playing it every day
and I love it.
I absolutely love it.
No matter what I say
don't let me play it again.
Even when I tell you
to tell me
I told you
I did that before the Warcraft
because at the rate you're going
at the rate you're going
by the end of 2012
by the end of 2012
by the end of 2015
or whatever year we're in
you will have only had 11 months in the year.
Maybe even 10 if you work hard enough
and you believe in yourself.
But as I've gotten older I realized
this is how I play games.
A game comes out
and it's Monster Hunter
or it's a fighting game that I really care about
or it's an MMO
or it's an RPG
or it's crack cocaine
and I'm just going to do it
and do it until
it's done
and you can't beat an MMO.
If there is no done
then I will eventually tire
until your mortal coil is shuffling off.
I will eventually tire.
As much as I'm making fun of you for it
it's not a waste of time.
I told a friend of mine about it
and he got into it
and he's having a similar blast.
It's easy to not feel horrible
when
there were parts of WoW that were disgusting
and you knew it.
You knew it. You played WoW
and you were like I'm being exploited right now.
And you kept clicking.
And I'm still going to play.
The moment that made me quit WoW
was when somebody explained to me
what DKB was
and that's your dragon kill points.
You got back in at a time
when a new piece of content came out.
You're talking about 14?
No, it happens to me.
So I mean like
timing makes sense but you didn't get in
because that was happening.
No, I just happened to.
By the way in two months there's an expansion.
Or the hell was I going with it?
There were parts that were disgusting.
Like somebody explaining to me what dragon kill points were
that's like this fucking
bureaucracy
The social mechanics of
some MMOs are so vile
that they put me off that genre
for like a decade.
That was pretty good.
It's a good game. I don't know what to say.
I'm running out of things
to say about it.
Other than like law tomestones
aren't going to grind themselves.
It's like you get to the end of this game
and it turns straight into Monster Hunter.
It's grind for fancy hats
and I want to grind for fancy hats.
It turns out that's my weakness
in games.
Is that helmet looks cool?
I want it. I don't care what I have to do.
We're gonna get it.
I mean you know
someone amongst this has got to play MMOs
I guess.
It's not really a prerequisite.
No.
There was that new show that happened.
There was that new Game Grumps special
where they had this group of people
that have never played an MMO
have to get to the level cap.
They're going in at max level.
They have a time limit to do stuff.
I'm like that's a pretty genius idea.
That wouldn't work here because
I've played MMOs but I've put
the most time into Grawl
and Ragnarok Online version 1.
Those are awesome.
It doesn't count.
It doesn't count.
We all did our time in whatever
flash bullshit.
Text only adventure.
What do you fucking know?
Not much to say about that other than
it's fantastic.
Are we good on cake because I should put the rest of the cake away?
Yeah that's good. Thank you very much.
Compliments to the chef.
Mrs. McMuscles.
Crime TV.
He says Mrs.
but they're fiends.
There should be a new term.
Like Mrs. Sassles.
Your fiance.
Your other half.
Your better half.
I did catch a show
that I was a huge, huge
fan of about 10 years ago
that is now back.
Have you guys noticed that
BattleBots is back?
People letting us know.
Have you watched it? I watched a little bit.
It's the fucking shit.
Is it exactly how you remember it
but improved for a modern generation?
Yes. Good.
BattleBots used to be run by Comedy Central.
Remember? Yep.
It was not slapstick,
but it was laid back as fuck.
They are taking this BattleBots
tournament so fucking
seriously.
It is hilarious.
Little Jimmy gets his house taken away
if he doesn't win.
They are achieving the total
impact of what they appear to want to do.
They have some color commentator
who has a Radio Man voice.
You can tell he does Radio Man things.
He's a Radio Man.
They have a former MMA fighter as the commentators.
Describing sites.
Could he possibly?
He knows what a fight is about.
It's just a fight between robots.
If you watch an episode of BattleBots
I don't know this lady's name.
This is the fakest TV mom lady
I have ever seen
in my life. Her smile is
horrifying. She is dead inside.
It's real bad. It's great.
It is so stilted
and produced
that when they take the shot of the commentator's
ringside
pre-fight
you can see them.
This is going to be hard for things.
Imagine the camera
is at a 45 degree
angle above their heads.
You can see them hunch down
reading their scripts
for the fight
and trying to sound enthusiastic.
It's like looking into a voice acting booth.
It's basically listening to Michael Cole.
They're not trying to hide it.
This is my favorite part
because it's technically
reality TV, I guess.
They'll do their
focus
on this is the builder of this.
This is the builder of this.
We want a little bit of slower music
for their family and shit.
There's
the girl
who made Tentamushi in the original
Battle Bot. She has now grown up
and has a new robot.
That's great.
They'll do little cool poses.
They'll have like, I have drills
and I'm making an angry pose.
But then you get
outside of the montages
then you get the people
just at the ring.
They have shown up like this
and you can tell because
that team, those guys are in slacks
and baseball caps
because they work at a garage
and they just showed up with their robot.
But this
fucking cracker ass white family
in purple and green voodoo
dread shit
with their robot witch doctor
with the staff
and literally like dance around.
Hold on, you lost me at some point.
Are the teams gimmicked?
So that's the thing.
No.
But some of the contestants
did it anyway.
The show told them
to put this on. No.
No, because most of them are normal.
But there's a couple
that I'm going to walk out
in fucking, we're all going to wear
aluminum foil
tuxes
with the hipster.
We're going to dress up like witch doctors
and look like awkward white people.
So is it kind of like
CEO where most people
just walk to the ring
but then some people
like take it to this thing?
It's so obvious that
they were not told to do this.
They just wanted to because they were going to be
on TV.
And if you win, you look really cool.
And it looks
so fucking, it's so good.
Like, there's just the amount of
like, oh, this isn't
the reality TV thing.
These people are just lame.
And
because it's 15 years later,
man, these robots are a lot
stronger than the ones you saw
in BattleBots.
Are the house robots better? There are no house robots.
That's a robot-worse thing. Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, it's totally confusing.
So I got a theory here.
I think something's going on
because Reggie did throw
that Smash Brothers Smash.
Kojima was in talks
with the BattleBots creators.
Shuu Yoshida
totally staged that
blood-borne thing.
So the...
These are all real arguments.
So the BattleBots
returns.
And then, but
prior to that, we recently had the DARPA
Robotics Challenge.
That thing's a shit show.
It's the best, awesome,
most hilarious robot failures you've seen
all decade.
But they're so cool.
Chris Jericho won.
And now
we've got the
challenge from the MegaBots
USA team
to the Kuritas
Japanese team.
And they've got their...
basically they're like, we got a robot,
let's fucking do this.
One year from now, Japan ain't got shit on our mech.
And then as of today, Japan
accepted their challenge and did their own
response video.
I think the public is ready.
Because he says it's so American
to just build a big thing and strap guns on it.
Yeah.
What we want to do, if we're going to beat them,
we're going to beat them in a fistfight in melee.
So they're working on making their robot
go faster.
And there are shots of the arm flexing
and crunching stuff.
And they have decided, instead of having a Gundam
or a mobile suit
versus the mech warrior,
they want to make a goddamn super robot.
Yeah.
Which is the right choice.
It's going to come out with a shining finger.
Unfortunately, the problem is the American robot
will be analog, which will clearly give
an advantage in case there is...
Well, the American robot will have the drift.
And they'll have the drift.
The Japanese robot is funny
almost like Daigo making a video
of how good he is at Marvel.
Exactly.
Wolverine, bread and butter combo.
The funniest thing about the production of these videos
is the American one is obviously over the top
playing...
And they're walking with capes
on their backs and doing the whole thing.
And then the Japanese response video
is not like...
It looks like a Kojima Productions interview.
But it's done like he's answering questions
from a behind the scenes camera.
You weren't supposed to catch him say these things.
He's like, yeah, of course we're going to fight.
We're going to fight until the end.
He puts the flag on and shit.
It's going to be great.
One of these robots, the Japanese one,
needs a scarf.
Really cool scarf.
Just to finish that off, dude, the new battle box is fantastic.
Sure.
The actual robot fights,
the level of power that you can
put into robots now.
One of the demonstration videos
is, you know the spinners?
You don't have the heavy blocks of spin.
Here's the spinner shattering a bowling ball.
Wow.
As the demo reel.
And it's like, these walls are bullet proof
thick as fuck.
And it's fantastic.
Might add tons of fun.
In this Megabot Mark II
versus Cortez challenge.
Okay, are we all traitors?
Are we all rooting for the Japanese?
Here's the problem.
Here's the Canadian.
It's still the Canadian.
But here's the problem.
I didn't vote for it.
It's not my time.
The crew attest
I've been hearing about for like
seven or eight years now.
We've seen little bits of footage of it here and there.
For a while, you can pre-order it and shit like that.
So that thing, I mean, I know
they've been updating the model,
but it's not as up to date
as the Megabot Mark II.
And you see the Megabot Mark II
shooting at paint bullets
that blow out the windows of a car.
It's like, you can easily just
strap real guns to that thing.
It's not hard, right?
I think it comes down to
whoever wins, we all win.
Because robots are fighting.
But I really want the fist one to win
and not the gun.
I would like me to win, but...
Here's why Max is super right.
Because even if the robot
to win loses,
no one, and I mean
no one is going to take that
for the conclusion.
One, the Mark II
has newer tech, but two,
it's piloted by two guys
and they're sharing
their power and their spirits are combining
to fight together.
And that's going to be a challenge for the Japanese
to work on. I guess one pilots it
and one shoots, right? That's the deal.
I think it's going to be...
Like a fire pilot.
And the
Japanese robot has
one pilot, mobile suit
style set up. And their pilot
is adorable.
But if you're not a new type,
how are you going to move?
Part of that
interview is like, this is ridiculous.
Japan's culture is giant robot.
How can we lose?
Yeah, but America prides itself on doing stuff better
than other people even though it can't.
Right.
So fast forward to the 2017
trailer where we're getting them
showing off their weapons with PPCs
and zero shifting
and lamb the drivers.
And you're like, yeah, all right, no, we're getting serious here.
That's...
If I can actually fly out to this battle,
I would love to. Hey, we've
shown on something.
You know what, I want to
see the Japanese robot
show up
and have their little instructional
video about the
arm strength test.
And it's an elephant with an American flag
painted on the side.
And then they just punch the elephant
to death.
Just like Bara killed
Tulsa.
Going to like Aura
mode. I want to take a quick
little jump off point here
because it's talking about giant robots.
It's really quick because we actually had
a little bit of faux pas, mostly me,
but I guess at the time
William and Pat, we all kind of just
forgot about it.
People were asking, you never talked about
that Terminator piece before.
So I ended up telling people that that's on
the Sleepy Cabin podcast.
That's still not uploaded.
No, and somebody was explaining it to people
with an extra twist
on what you told me.
Because I read that again, you can take it
to different interpretations, but it really
quickly because we're getting on that.
But that piece of it
we're talking about is a Terminator art book
that is still... That someone was me, by the way.
Someone was explaining it.
Well, someone else was too.
That's like Terminator we ended in people in
FF14. No, it was
someone on that read it.
Basically it was, James Cameron
says in undercurrent, I never got to put in
the films with that, Skynet
feels guilty of 30
years of I killed 5 billion
humans, but I was
always programmed to protect them, but I was
protecting myself because they were going to
turn me off. It comes to that conclusion.
It feels really bad. So I
built up, I groomed
John Connor to be a saviour of
humanity, and I let myself
be a target
for so they have something to fight
against, because I felt humanity
needed that, needed a little glimmer of hope
that, yeah, you can win.
And it would strategically, I assume
this is like a nitty-gritty part, but
I strategically would lose battles, or I'd
put something out, and I'd give them
something to fight against, and there was
two different interpretations where I read
this, and I kind of went, is this
meaning that it let John Connor
win up to a certain point, but then it was
like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. They're actually
winning. You're actually winning.
You could possibly kill me. Let
me send a Terminator back in time to just
forego this whole fucking mess.
And then someone else was sleeping on a
Reddit, and if you read the
bit of dialogue from James Cameron saying
I never got to put it in, it was too much
overload, but it also said that
Skynet cannot
self-terminate, just like a lot of Terminators
can. So it initiates
the war to try and commit suicide.
So you might commit suicide by letting
John Connor be its own
executioner. And in order to
create John Connor, it has to
send things into the past. Which is a predestination
paradox. And so on.
Then at that point, stop.
Create the resistance, create the war,
make him stronger and stronger, and make
him until the point where John Connor is
good enough to actually kill
Skynet. So it's
Skynet's way of committing suicide.
And much like in Terminator Genesis where
a Terminator is given a choice and it can't
quite do a thing, but it passes
off the task to someone else.
Now, the reason why I
looked at that and went, oh my god,
that's mind-blowing, is because
Skynet makes such stupid
decisions in these sequel movies
that I'm like the only way
to save those. You have to be
doing it on purpose. Is to be incompetent
on purpose. And
this topic that we have, Plague
is talking, Plague is like, that's really
stupid, but I guess it does
log up that plot hole. That's what
Plague always says. Yeah, he says that a lot.
But like wait for Oni to deliver
the sandbag of a generation
with that. What? We all
know all of them on that
podcast. That is the dumbest
thing I've ever heard. I thought
you were joking. I was waiting for a punch
line. And this comes from Leviosa
and Rebecca. Yeah.
But I reiterated on
that podcast that this isn't actually
in the canon of movies. This is just
what the director and writer thinks
is an undercurrent
of the film. I know, that's pretty canon.
It's pretty canon. Well, is it
dumb? Yes. But does it save
the garbage? Yes. Yes.
Well, someone, if that garbage didn't exist
you wouldn't need this. But if you had to come along
and clean it up, that's one way to do it.
Now, unfortunately, Liam kind of
got wind of this before we could talk
about it. He saw people talking about
what do you think as a big Terminator 1 and 2 fan?
That's fine.
That's basically how it took us. Oh, that makes
sense. Like honestly
in our Genesis
thing, we quibbled for a while
about how they didn't reload the clips and stuff.
And it's like, you know,
we're willing to be super, super nitpicky
about that kind of stuff. But if you go back
to the older movies, there's equivalent
and even like far
dumber stuff. Which is why
when that came up, I said
normal action movie problems.
Yeah, I don't know for sure.
I'm not pointing it on you.
I'm just saying, there are so many
problems with these movies
that I can buy it. And again,
in that time travel story, you have literally infinite
timelines. So that doesn't make sense.
Well, that's because there was more trying to travel. That's because
literally everything possible
happened. Or didn't.
Or didn't.
Actually, my statement covers that.
Everything possible happens.
A big one that someone brought up that I was kind of like,
oh, shit, we didn't mention this either, was
at the end of that movie,
to go into like brief spoilers
for a thing, fast forward
like five minutes, by the way, if you don't want to hear it.
At the end of the movie, when the biggest
terrorist attack of that
century happens,
on Google's
headquarters, how did they safely
go up to young John Connors
family and convince them
young John Connors family
and convince them, hey, yeah, do this thing.
Everyone was really sad their operating system
didn't come out. The police didn't go outside because
they were sad about the operating system.
Everyone was sad.
Personally, I'm a huge fan of the idea
of an AI system
being so intelligent that it feels guilt over
30 years. I think that's cool.
I can get people saying that's also stupid,
but that's very rare
that that shows up.
It's an area that I can buy into.
Well, the biggest problem we always have with Skynet is the fact that
a machine just does what a machine
does.
And Skynet doesn't act
like a machine.
The Kauris Terminator 1 modus operand
of Terminators is like, they don't care.
They don't give a fuck. They're robots.
They'll never stop. They don't care
for Mars, etc.
I was about to say a thing
and I was like, oh wait, it's going to launch into a whole new
thing, so let's just leave it at that.
Now, if we're going to be talking about community
involvement, I need to put a product service announcement
out there. I appreciate all the Californians
that are
photoshopping photos of trees
and doctoring Wikipedia
articles.
So, William, do you know this?
I'm in California and they're there.
All I know is that I appreciate
your...
That's the thing is, I saw the smoke
from outside. I heard the noises
of Pat getting his ass blown out.
But I don't know
what they want.
William, I appreciate your willingness to live
alive in order to spite me.
But as we all know, California does not
even have water.
It can't have big trees. Trees need water.
Those trees in Interide the Hell
are big. So, in Interide the Hell,
I say, well, these are redwood trees.
In fact, there's no redwood trees
in California. There's only exists in Vancouver.
A bunch of Californians go,
that's literally all we have.
We have the biggest redwood trees ever.
That's where California is famous for.
That's what people that are begging for
water sound like. You know what?
You're not even wrong. They've been...
It's probably... Superman is...
It's probably NorCal.
Did you hear
or read this? No, I just know.
I can't be wrong.
It's clearly a giant
host. Nobody cares about
Banjo-Kazooie.
So,
you're just trying to get me.
So,
there's a lot of big stories
to talk about. I want to start with the coolest one.
I just want to have a check-in.
There's a lot of stories and your coolest one
might not be a shared one.
I just want to have a week on the podcast though.
It should be.
Yeah. Okay.
Alright. Liam, what's your coolest story?
Wait, it's sorry. Go ahead.
I want to have a check-in every week.
Is Batman Arkham
Night on sale on the PC yet?
I don't think so.
Okay, that's two weeks in.
Let's see how long we can get back on.
But you can get the
Red Hood DLC.
It's apparently
10 minutes long.
I swear to God.
Well, luckily,
your framerate is going to be so shit
that it can pump it up to like 15 minutes.
10? It's pretty hard to deal with.
So, what's the coolest story?
What's the story that's cool in one day?
You know what? Fight over cool.
What's your challenger? I'm curious.
Zero Escape 3 got announced.
That's pretty exciting.
This game shouldn't exist as well.
Liam was literally telling me about how all that
creators' games are huge failures
and he's like, I really wish I could get
a single thing for me.
After Ruchu's last war came out,
he said, man, that didn't make any money.
They're never going to let me make another one.
Would you like to see, there was that
fan, what was it,
like, operation bluebird?
That was trying to push to get this to happen
and he was just basically in tears on Twitter.
So, the deal is the Zero Escape games...
The Zero Escape games do
relatively well in the States.
They do well for access.
They do business for us.
And in Japan, they are
complete bombs.
Complete failures, not to mention
they're published by Spike Chunsoft,
who also publishes Danganronpa
side-by-side with it.
Which is to ask every time.
They don't own Attack on Titan.
They own Zero Escape and Danganronpa.
So that's for me, that was the biggest story of the week.
I was really surprised when I saw that
because I was like, I get surprised too full.
I get surprised generally.
Oh man, I can't imagine me being surprised.
So that's pretty fucking rad, but what the hell is
cooler than that?
I'm excited by the discovery of
this Nintendo
Sony SNES-y prototype.
I think that's fucking cool.
We always do these things,
but seeing it...
But I personally would get more excited
when I can see what...
Is there a game running on it?
Looking at a console?
And so the whole thing, it's not a thing.
So far it's been, it adds up.
And they actually were talking about
the original console
that was going to spark
the whole
FF7 controversy and then
what created the current generation
of the current state of video games
was this console and the fact that it never came out.
I still find it weird that some random guy
finds it in a treasure chest.
Well, what happened was
it was his dad that got it from
someone else who he used to work with.
I worked at Nintendo.
The person admitted making it
and has since stated it was a joke.
Wait, what?
Wait, hold on, wait, what?
That checking will ruin this podcast.
Yeah, we shouldn't do this.
You should never check the facts.
It's really cool and I fucking wish it was real,
but I admitted it.
If you check facts, that means people are going to expect us
to not make mistakes.
There are no trees in America.
I only checked it when it was challenged.
Well, I checked the trees in America
thing, but all I found was lies.
What? Well, he seems really upset.
Well, no, I'm just, it's awesome.
It's really cool.
So put the Sony...
What's the Nintendo PlayStation?
Where do you see that?
Because there's still news popping up as of two hours ago
that's like this is...
What site is reporting this?
Let me find one real quick.
Because I'm looking at the Google News
and it's still popping up on various
websites.
I just heard from a couple people
that it was fake.
Here on Valedic, they claim to have
the guy who posted the pictures
who admits it's a fake, this French guy.
French.
Like Paris French?
Exactly.
Maybe.
Making up consoles.
That's the only website that says that.
Well, this is a story that's in flux.
It's in flux right now.
It's developing.
It's a total liar.
There's no, nothing works on it.
There's a cartridge
and there's a disc.
Oh, so it's a cartridge disc.
But there's no power cables.
It's a CD-based cartridge.
And everyone's generally saying,
you don't want to just fuck around
and start sticking random power cables.
But you can check to see
if there's a voltage reading on it
and actually find one and go for it.
But...
Yeah.
What other cool news do we have this week?
I'm sorry.
Moving on, I guess.
I don't mean to be a bummer.
I don't think that's true.
I'm sorry for dropping.
It's in flux, I don't believe either of you.
How about that?
I am neutral on this story.
I believe this guy thinks it's a fake
but it's actually real.
I'll believe that.
Let's get into a story that's going to cause
a lot of way more harmony
and not going to result in a fight at all.
How about that red-ash
Kickstarter from Inafune?
Money number nine isn't out yet, man.
Yeah.
I didn't even look at it.
Because money number nine is not out yet, man.
Take it away.
Because I can tell
that this is going to be an eruption.
I think I do not like the idea of someone
already asking for more money
when their original product
that they're already asked for money
and got a lot of
has not even been put out yet.
That's all I really have to say.
I don't even have a huge attachment
to Megaman Legends 3, like I like it or whatever.
But anybody,
if someone made a final fight Kickstarter
and then before you even finished
asked for money for another one,
I'd still feel weird about it.
Let me go back and explain what the story is.
This is Inafune
has proposed
his successor to
Megaman Legends.
It's a game called Red Ash.
It's also an anime, so there's two kickstarters
that came out simultaneously.
One by Studio 4C for the anime.
He really wants to make these content.
Yeah, the other one is for the game.
And so
it's called Red Ash, which is a funny little spin-on
saying redash,
which Megaman Legends is Megaman Dash.
So the characters
are back and call.
It's cool, yeah.
The same names, but just different designs.
Just like Trigger.
Exactly, doing the Megaman Trigger thing, exactly.
And Bezelbone
is now
whatever this guy is.
I can't remember his name, but his face looks just like it.
It looks exactly like Bezel.
There's even a little walnut symbol.
It's just a shrunken one.
So they're not really hiding the fact that
they're trying to make legends.
In the story and things like that.
So yeah, this is out.
Mighty No. 9 would have been the pass-fail
decision-maker to back this project.
And as it is not out yet,
I can't make a decision.
Yeah, so this is something that
I think,
having touched Mighty No. 9 and liking, I liked it.
I feel like Mighty No. 9 is going to be fine
once it comes out.
But it is really odd to push this out
there before your current thing comes out.
And I know that concept,
I do want to point out,
I'm sure we all know this,
that Mighty No. 9 is ostensibly done.
And he is looking to work on something else.
Like it's not finishing the day it releases.
It's probably done right now.
It's probably finished right now.
Now the thing with this stuff is, of course,
is that Comcept is a company that just
develops the ideas and the pitch
as it were.
They find another company to actually do
the development on it.
It's something where I would have expected
this to come out once the profits
were made on Mighty No. 9.
The project is done.
I would have expected this to happen
from the money they made on that
as opposed to another crowdfunding campaign.
Who knows what the deal is?
We don't know.
We actually don't know.
When I think about,
we can just jump ahead in the docket while doing this,
but...
You pay me for a service,
pay me now,
pay me more money for something else,
and I haven't delivered on the first thing quite yet.
What I generally expect
is Lab Zero
announces Indivisible.
A new RPG looks fucking cool.
It's going to be that both these projects are announced
the same weekend.
What's Anime Expo?
There hasn't been a campaign
for Indivisible that's popped up,
but we don't know if there's going to be one.
I'm guessing it's not going to be...
It's on Indiegogo.
Do you want that?
I would expect that
these games that would come out
based on
a Kickstarter campaign or an Indiegogo campaign
would make money on the sales
and then use that to fund the next game
instead of going for the next one.
Maybe it is.
Who knows what's happening behind the scenes?
How much are they asking for Red Ash?
$800,000?
You want to make up 3D adventure games?
That's just awful.
The game's looking for $800,
the anime's $150,000 I think.
And here's the thing,
it is, but at the same time
I don't think it's enough
because a game like Mega Man Legends
made these days...
He outlined that $800,000
would only make the first three episodes
of the game.
The first two stretch goals,
if I remember correctly,
are four more episodes
across them.
I think it's like 1.2
or 3 to get all the episodes.
Honestly, with my feelings that are already stated,
I looked at the character designs
and I was like, wow, I really actually
don't like this character art
and then just kind of left it at that
and I was going to just wait until
whatever to see how everything pans out.
I don't know what the characters look like.
It's a very different art style.
I heard about it
and made my decision before I refused
to look at it.
I bet, I totally bet.
What I was curious about
was who the developer was
because I was like, I never heard of them
and I went and I checked it out and there's a
long list of
mostly mobile stuff.
There's some stuff that they did for UnPSP and Vita.
It's like Atome and Mobile.
They did some handheld stuff.
They did and they helped out
on a couple of...
Shit, what was it?
It was like, I want to say
possibly on an Atlas game or something
or something like that.
Exactly, like Little Assist and Acid Creation
and whatnot, but it doesn't look like they've taken on
anything of this scope ever.
So, hopefully
they can do that.
I always say
in the industry period,
Integrinates is too busy with the other 7 projects
that they're working on
and that Inafune just needs
an asset creation team
and he would be able to see the whole thing.
Also, IntiCreate's specialty is
Mega Man platforming
and
Mega Man Zero series.
Yeah, I know, but they've made a lot of Mega Man
like that.
They're very experienced in that is what I'm trying to say.
They're the guys you'd go to
to make a game like Mighty No. 9
for a game like Red Ash,
someone that
does 3D
but I mean...
No, but I mean
maybe they just kind of came up with
an affordable deal with these guys.
Yeah, of course.
Personally, I
would love a new Mega Man Legends type game
but I'll buy it when it's out.
Fucking love those games.
Did you back it?
Yeah, and then I changed my mind on it.
And I didn't know that there was 2 on that
and I pulled my money out.
This is the line for me.
I was originally...
I was hyped and I jumped in
and now Yusuzuki
goes to Kickstarter
for Shenmue 4.
Well, that's weird.
I know that's a bit extreme.
Or Virtual Battler.
Or 3 years from now.
It's like...
I can see right now it's not quite taking
to the internet with the same wildfire
than Mighty No. 9. No, of course not.
The thing with the spiritual succession
of Mega Man Legends 3 is that
you can't really do that.
Because Mega Man, generally the
Mega Man mainline games
starts and ends,
but you actually want to see what happens
to that Mega Man.
It's a different story.
It's a different story, but
when Interfuting goes, please help me
make this brand new Mega Man or Mega Man style game
it's easy for people to jump in and jump out
because, oh yeah, a new Mega Man game
would want it.
To try to use that same nostalgia
to pull on Mega Man,
you have to start in a suspiciously
similar place.
Like Mars.
Boy, I sure am stranded on Mars.
I put a bunch of money, and like
Comcept so far, I've never been
left down by Comcept. I think
all of the games they've produced
at least the
concept they came up with were great.
The only bad one, the only stinker
was Yaiba, and I think it might be
fair to pin that a bit on Spark Unlimited
because the least of that game's problems
are the concepts.
Yeah, I guess so.
But seriously, the least of that game's problems.
I give Liam a knowing nod.
So I don't know, they did Sweet Fuse
and Soul Sack, and Yaiba,
which again, I like the concept, but the game is not
really great.
And again, Mighty No. 9's actually
like it is a good game.
It might not be pretty or whatever,
but more than willing to put my money in
because Comcept hasn't let me down
really with the exception of Yaiba.
Again, that doesn't bother me because
I don't know why I got excited for a Spark Unlimited
game. I should have let myself do that.
We all told you. I know you all told
me, and I didn't. I don't know why.
I don't know why. I just wanted
the idea really bad. Me too.
And here's the thing, and I got
very excited, and
just went right in.
I was like, you know what, on second thought
I can wait and see on this, and I feel like
if that happens, and it does come out
and it's fine.
This Carkstar campaign finishes
Mighty No. 9 will still not have been out
September or whatever.
But if this goes through
and makes it and everything
gets made and it comes out,
I'll have no problem purchasing that
off of Steam when it ships.
Of course.
And that's how I feel about it.
I
still find it generally weird that your
Carkstar is not even fully stocked.
Like any company, anything.
This is probably not the case.
But it makes me
feel like they don't have faith in Mighty No. 9
to make any money. I think that's a little
extreme. No, it is.
It totally is. But that was my
initial things. Like what? Do they think they're not
going to make any money so that they have to immediately
go to Kickstarter before the game's even out?
At the very least, there's one thing
you can look at and say is that the work
that they're, the stuff they're working on now
is out of
concepts has.
Right. Inti Creates is doing their thing
completely on it. So like this
completely different team and like Comcept
would have the ability to start on that
immediately. It wouldn't be like
a division of resources or anything like that.
But, yeah.
Tomorrow if Yacht Club Games
announces, you know, Kickstarter
for
Sheldonite 2, whatever.
Like they just put out a little
notice or press release like a few days earlier.
Sheldonite has moved 800,000
units across everything. They get to
keep almost all that profit for themselves
because they don't have their own publisher in.
Deep Silver, I think. Who's publishing the? Deep Silver.
Yeah, so they're going to keep every
cent. But if they come out of the Kickstarter
saying we need like a million
or 500,000.
I'm like...
Should have bought cheaper hookers. I mean, I feel like...
If they ask for 30,000, like maybe they need
a little extra help for something. But
for a full-fledged other game budget
still feels strange.
Sheldonite 2, I would say, where's
Plague Knight? I know he's coming soon.
And that's super exciting. But where's
the other characters?
The good faith that you kind of
build up on Kickstarter. A lot of times, like if you
have established, if you're an awesome legendary
Japanese creator, you come in with a ton of good
faith immediately on
your first push.
If you're a company like
Yacht Club or whatnot,
exactly, you're like, okay, you know what these guys have done.
So, again, your first
project, you're going to come out of the gate
at light speed, making money on that.
But for follow-ups,
I guess I feel like people
want a bit more.
You know, like they want to be
able to be certain that
what you've worked on is done.
It's not like
you're jumping ahead and funding something
too early or whatnot. I mean,
KG
kind of...
You didn't obsidian do a
bit while...
Different company? Yeah, okay, I'm crazy.
We were thinking of
In Exile.
And I felt weird about that.
Oh, no, so In Exile, they did that
while Wasteland 2 was in development.
Yeah, I also felt weird about Barstail.
They came out and explained that.
And it's basically like
we wrote all of Wasteland.
Like all of the writing on Wasteland is
completely fucking finished. We need to start on something else.
The writers are fucking...
It's the exact same situation.
Yeah.
And double find with Master Chalice.
Which was a different team here.
But people just don't like that.
The idea of like...
I don't know why people seem to love
Torment. I don't know why, but
Torment, I did not
feel like this at all. But the number...
Yeah, exactly, the number demonstrated that people...
I don't know, there's something about the situation
that was different and I can't put my things around it.
And I know there is a difference, but I can't
remember what it was.
But I think this is the reason why this is going
as slow compared to Mighty No. 9
is like the feeling that
we are waiting on that.
You know what it is?
I know exactly what it is. I can't believe Mighty No. 9
isn't out.
With Wasteland, you look at that kind of game
like yeah, that shit takes forever.
Especially the writing.
With Mighty No. 9, it's like
you just said it, you fucking said it, like game's done.
More or less.
Like the shipping in September, yeah.
Fucking come on.
Animated series, I mean Studio 4C is great.
They're fantastic, yeah.
They're cool guys.
It's odd to do a double prawn
Kickstarter like that, but it's cool.
Yeah.
I don't think it's needed.
I don't think it's needed, that's the thing.
I think after the runaway success
that was the Sonic Boom double team.
Yeah, but one of those is
super successful.
I think it would exist.
I think the way it would exist would be
game comes out, it's successful.
Gangbusters, everyone loves it.
Get an animated adaptation.
Yeah, but it's like how many
versions of the game do they need to ship
to make it that successful?
Shovel Knight's a massive success.
They couldn't get a fucking Shovel Knight anime
going on that, you know what I mean?
They'd have to go through years and years
of that.
I think it's fun what he wants to try doing,
but I don't think that anime
is completely unrelated to the game.
I think it will.
It's a head proportion.
It's asking for significantly less,
which is why, obviously.
I think they're both going to get funded.
Neither of them are going to kill it,
but they're both going to get funded.
And I'm glad, I don't want neither of them to exist.
Would you have preferred it to be a 950
Kickstarter instead?
No, I think it's fine the way it is.
Splitting it into two?
If it was for both, I would never back it.
Because I don't want the anime.
If I didn't want the anime,
I'd rather it not exist, but I do want it.
And for the people who don't want it,
they don't want it.
We would just not back it, because I don't want
my money to go to the same level.
When I backed it and I saw you hit back the game,
I saw you didn't back the anime, and I was like,
that's good. Will he's able to choose to not pay for it?
Yeah, you're right.
I think that choice is good,
especially since they're different plots.
They're prepared for a world where the game doesn't
get backed, but the anime does.
Yeah, they're prepared for both, it seems.
Granted, the anime
getting back would be the nightmare situation.
Because until they hit a bunch of stretch goals,
it's really short.
If they only hit 150,
it's like 10 minutes old.
Oh, is that what it is?
150k, well, how many
animators can you hire?
Half our dungeon is 80 tombstones.
Honestly, they're going to hit both.
You need about 800 tombstones.
But the products we get
with the bare minimum
on both of those projects
is not...
A couple of us in the game, 10 minutes short,
not really a full-on
legend's experience, as it were.
No, exactly.
Around what stretch goal was it to get?
It was 2.5 million
as a feature film,
and it was all building up
to that and expanding it up until that one,
which was the biggest one.
At which point,
for the first one where it's 150k
for 10 minutes of footage,
that seems expensive, and then you get to the end
and it's 2.5 million for a feature film,
and you're like, that seems cheap.
Do you have anything about an F-Zero
Kickstarter? Absolutely.
You don't want a kicky, kicky, kicky,
right on back.
To say one more thing about
Indivisible,
I'm glad it's not a fighting game.
I'm glad you branch out.
Everyone's glad it's not a fighting game.
No, because you just want something,
you know what I mean?
Skullgirls, as much as it's a
darling of a ton of people on the internet,
it's too hardcore for everybody.
Skullgirls is a ball
of everyone's heads, and it's like,
that's, I love that.
I finally got my head out of my
ass and fucking got into it,
and then it was like, I can't get into this anymore,
it's too much. It's not
viable. I can't even learn the matchups
on one character,
because they're too complex. Yeah, don't worry about it.
Just go look up the undizzy system,
NKH drama.
Yeah, I never even bothered,
because I don't know why my combo told
me it can't combo no mo.
So at this stage, what is
Indivisible, sorry?
Indivisible is an RPG,
and it's by the same
team at LabZero
that did Skullgirls art,
looks like it's going to look cool.
Looks good. I'm on board.
This game,
I think it's going to be developed by
WayFord, by the way.
Because
I don't think anyone really picked up on it,
but the cover for the upcoming Destructoid magazine
says,
WayFord and ZeroLabs team up
on a new game.
Okay.
For an RPG,
I don't think LabZero has even enough people
to really bang that out.
Well, it's a 2D
action RPG.
It's not as complex as it sounds to add the RPG mechanics.
Maybe.
At the end of the day, you're just changing the damage numbers
and adding values to different
statics.
I'm glad that we can still feel good about WayFord
and Yacht Club.
Yeah, those amical break up
both remain high quality studios.
And they both support each other.
That could have easily been like
all the good people left.
Or all the shit people stay.
Which is what always happens.
I thought that happened both of those are the same things.
You know what I'm saying.
It could have been rare, but it's not.
I'm curious.
That's not rare at all.
This is the Scruples question for you.
Mighty No. 9 is not out yet,
but KG and Afune is kickstarting a new thing.
Shantae will not be out yet,
and yet it seems like they will be kickstarting
a new game.
WayFord?
Along with Indivisible.
How do you feel about that?
WayFord consistently puts out games
of decent quality.
So does Concept.
I didn't back Shantae because
Shantae is cool.
I haven't played it yet.
But I'm just saying it was the situation you presented
like 10 minutes ago.
Is it the exact same team
and the exact same details?
WayFord Lab Zero
Is Shantae
when's that due out?
Waiter this year.
Haven't they made 40 Shantae games?
Oh, five.
I think this is the fifth or something,
but a lot of re-releases.
I think it's five.
Yeah, I think a company like WayFord
has put out
multiple games and had multiple teams
work on things in the past over time
and that's been a thing.
For WayFord
they specifically said,
we have enough budget to put out
handheld versions of Shantae
and we don't have enough budget to put out
Xbox One, PS4, Wii U, PC
and 3DS and Vita versions
so that's why we went to Kickstarter for this
because it's our own character
and no one's publishing it but us.
And I guess like
I'm looking at it like a company. Well, it is Concept
but it's KG specifically.
People are kind of looking at Concept.
It is Concept.
And no, it does. That's the thing is
that's why I'm very like
I don't know because they very well
could totally be fine
with that and it's not
the same team. It's not
what you call it, it's it creates.
So I understand how that can happen.
I just feel like
the reason why it's not
sparking up the numbers it does is because
yeah, money number nine is a hundred percent.
No, for sure. You seem kind of blasé
on Red Ash and then you were super hype on Indivisible
which is, I think, they're both awesome.
And I was like, well, it's actually a similar situation.
That's all. If I was
in a situation where I was waiting with bated breath
for Chante, I might feel a bit more similar
about the situation, but
because I'm not, I can just go like
well, I like the second thing.
No, I hear you. I just wanted to ask, given the presence
of this unusual
situation. Okay, let me ask you, Chante
wait for us to get started.
Yeah, absolutely.
And Indivisible is lab zero's going to start.
Well, again, this is
according to a Destructoid magazine
No, but I'm saying like on the Kickstarter page
it says lab zero. There is no Kickstarter page.
The Indiegogo page isn't up yet.
Okay, well then
there's nothing to even like. I didn't even know
it was a crowdfunding thing until
I just saw the trailer in it. You know what?
I'm kind of just starting to assume
these games are crowdfunding things.
Well, that's why I said like Y2K
it was a pleasant surprise to find out that it wasn't.
Yeah. Because you see a trailer
and you go, all right, where is the KS logo?
And it's like, oh, it's just coming.
And I was literally walking around the Pancake Construct
where he checked on his phone and said, oh,
there's a Mega Man Legends like
Spirits of Successor Kickstarter. KJ
and Afune. Oh, there's also a lab zero
thing Indivisible. It's an RPG
and then I was like, oh, okay. And then I actually
sat down and just looked at
I didn't really look at Indivisible too much
but like I looked at the character art for
Red Ash and I was just kind of like, I don't know
about this and Indivisible I really haven't seen
enough of it to even have. Yeah.
It's just the really cool teaser right now.
I guess like, like,
I don't know how to word this
but like maybe
part of the fact that Mighty Number
9 is a Mega Man game feels like
it's very basic
and it's the kind of, it feels like
it would be a lot simpler
to get that out there already.
I mean, Shantae is a 2D platformer
as well, so you know.
Yeah.
And again, just an observation
because it's not often
a situation we get where
you have like this exact thing. I don't know, man
until we learn more I think we said everything we could
possibly say about this. Yeah, that's it.
And like I said, you just broke it to me that
Indivisible is really kind of funny at all.
I still got a shit ton of Kickstarter games
in the pipe. Me too.
Was Freedom Planet a Kickstarter game?
Yes, it was. A while, years ago.
We totally missed it. I forgot
to mention it. I played the first little Freedom Planet
so it's pretty good.
It's pretty good.
You gotta play until you get to 5C.
Until, yeah, the game does not
start until you get to 5C.
Mighty number nine like that.
That game is? No, I mean wonderful
101. Yeah.
Except for the voice acting and the color
depth and the sound quality.
That's one of those Genesis
fucking things I've played in decades.
Nails it. Totally.
Good games. What else we got?
So you guys might want to do something.
There was.
There was.
It was hard to get details on this
because it was being deleted
as I was searching.
But a fan made F-Zero's
successor. Yes.
There was a Kickstarter for this project
called Zero Gravity AX.
And it looked like
It looked like F-Zero
Next GX.
I saw one screenshot. I've not even looked
It looked like there was a blue falcon.
That's because it was
the blue falcon.
So this went up
and the response
it was one guy from Germany, it seems
and the response was basically
hey man
I don't know if you know but you probably
can't do that.
Also, even for people that are like
yeah, they're like man
you want to back it off like a little.
Because the video of it is literally
just F-Zero.
It's the same boost pad
you get a boost after one lap.
Was it playing shotgun kiss?
That sounds like all it's missing.
I couldn't even find the video I could only find a gift from.
I watched the video of it.
By the time I heard about it and tried to look for it
I couldn't even find the screenshot.
And literally now at this time frame
of this month of this year
there are actually a lot of futuristic
racers via Kickstarter
and other stuff.
I don't even want this
because all it was was F-Zero.
Oh, I saw the misfits there though.
What was vomiting plays?
I keep talking and ignore the TV man.
I finished it.
That's literally all the way.
We are people that are making our
living talking about video games.
You can't have flashy images
nearby and expect us to not look at them.
I just wanted to show
some footage but fuck it.
The point is that
it looks like fucking F-Zero apparently.
You're piling in the blue top.
So the guy behind this basically
is like, okay, Duda
immense amounts of negative feedback
and possible legal
issues.
Well, people warned him about legal
failure. I think the phrase we're
looking for is shenanigans.
Yeah, maybe so.
Sure. He's canceling it
and you go to the Kickstarter page and
40 people really got to back it
before he yanked it.
I think the current thing is that
I might retool my design.
I look forward to G-Zero
FX
Fast Racing AX
with the red bird.
There was a group, I think we talked about
in a previous podcast where there was a group
that was literally a bunch of people that Sony laid off
from Liverpool
that said we're going to make this
a new wipeout
and you know, there's
Fast Racing Neo and there's like
two more that I remember
even like stuff like Distance
were there.
I was going to say beyond the stuff
because I remember
we checked out Fast Racing Neo
but everything that pops up on SuperbestFans Drifts
It's like your fans and imitators
beat you to the punch.
I think we're 50% fine.
I'm like
wipe out HD
and Fury and wipe out 2048
actually got like big marketing stuff
and I was like yeah, I really like seeing
Future Racing with marketing. That's cool.
I want everyone to know about Future Racing.
The next Penelope is another one
but the camera is different.
When are we going to get
a big Future Racing game again?
By a major store
where you're not driving a car.
Yeah, but I want commercials for it.
By a major studio, I don't know when.
I was telling him that a game just came out on Xbox
as a downloadable
a game called Quantum
Quantum Champions
which is a futuristic
racing game that's super legit
and it used to be a mobile game and on Steam
and now it's on a console like we're all
right now. We don't need someone to
literally rip off of Zero.
But you know, I think with that coming out
on the heels of the news about the F-Zero game
that could have been not coming out
like people are hungry
for specifically F-Zero
you know.
I mean, we're getting some stuff.
And Nintendo, can we have this? No.
Can you forcibly buy it?
And then someone told them no.
We need to make a new need for
speed. This is the third Kickstarter
recently I could think of where the creator
just like got a lot of bad feedback
on day one and just pulled it down and went on.
It's the right thing to do.
Why prolong your
humiliation for 30 days?
Why just bleed out on the floor
for 30 days? My pants fell down.
Let me stand here for 30 days
while you look at my balls.
How about your balls being exposed
for five years? You can see the number
of my balls going up.
What? Five years.
I'm not sure he's gonna...
I'm um...
Anybody? Anybody got this
at this end? Racism?
What about racism? Racism was longer
than five years. Oh no, no.
Well, it's over now
but it was more than five years.
So racism ended two years ago.
He's talking about a story that
I think he and I care about the most
I think you guys are curious here.
Yeah, I think we're the only ones that actually give a shit.
Maybe I don't know what you're talking about. Project
Emma! Oh no, dude
I give such a shit about this.
Don't you remember the other day? I was talking
with you guys and I was like, man, I think that's
me and Matt's number one. I want
this prototype in my hand. Yeah, but this was
after during the weekend so you're gone
and me and Willie caught up about this actual
like... I'm really confused about
how the two topics we have in our
hands linked together. You'll see, you'll see.
So the guys at Unseen
64, God bless them, they do
God's work. It's amazing.
God knows how to run a
Beta64. They pulled
up a lot of
hidden info on exactly
how and why
Project Hammer met its fate.
Yeah. You know, and... Here we go.
So you can watch the video. I'll put a link to it in the docket.
The gist of it is that
while
the American company working with the Japanese
company... First and foremost, Project Hammer
was one of the first games
they demoed with the Wii. By the way, if anyone
wants to look at us... Yeah, like 8.3.
You go check out the footage. Exactly.
And the demo feels like game number three. Reggie
introduces it and it's an action game where
you use the Wiimote to swing a hammer.
Yeah, big dumb cyborg. He promised
one-to-one hammer swinging
accuracy, but that was not true.
As all... As all
launch Wii games did.
Yeah, and
you know, it was one of those games that
just kind of after that initial announcement
just fell into the darkness. Never mentioned
the game pretty much. And so what we found
out was behind the scenes
the problem was
that America working with Japan couldn't
agree on what made the game fun
or not. On how to fix the
problem that the game is not fun.
Running around doing
nothing but waggling wasn't
enjoyable. Was not enjoyable. I think the
American team was like, we need to work on the gameplay.
Japan said you need to work on the environment
to make the levels better and more
destructible. Yeah, so it was the difference
between Metal Gear Rising
and I guess
Revengeance. Yeah.
Because, yeah, Japan
just said no, like the game design
leave it alone. Just work on the stages
and making everything around the game.
So
back and forth, back and forth
it got heated and it got to the point where
the Japanese
teams were like having meetings without the Americans
and basically saying, you would not understand
this, you're not Japanese.
Mean stuff. Yeah.
This was NST who had just
sent crime hunters. That used to be
the prevailing theme
in Japanese game development. Yeah.
So they just didn't go far back enough.
So they just wouldn't have any of it.
They got to the point where over the course of this
like, really painful
development, people just started walking away
because they're like, this is the point.
This is pointless, like no one is
respecting me
on the team, the ideas and so on.
It just felt like a giant shit show. In the meantime
they... I'm not ready to be Ryan Payton just yet.
In the meantime, they
reworked the game. Well, the final name
was going to be like Machine X.
No, Machine X. And that's
the name they were going to go with instead of Project Hammer.
Then the video later they...
Well, I was going to go there.
So they rendered out a bunch of
cut scenes of this like
extensive cut scene.
Disaster day of crisis level shit going on.
That's what I call zero tolerance.
Exactly. And
as that went on, it seems like over the
years they get a point where they're like, fuck this.
Scrap everything but the
basic concept of gameplay.
Take it back to the drawing board, make it
into a cutesy sort of
Miiverse based...
No, not Miiverse. I think
you're looking for Wii Brand.
Which is just a portmante
Wii Sports
So they were trying to push this
as Wii Crush.
Which is a great name when you think about it.
It is, yeah.
They said facelift or not,
this isn't fun.
And yeah,
from there it just slowly
descended into nothing.
Until there was a skeleton team
working on it and
they had a team of skeletons running on it.
You can imagine how fast the work went.
The story really stinks
because not so much Project Hammer
but I still...
Up to that point I thought NST was
just like a great little team
that, you know, Wave Race,
Tendency, Snowboarding in conjunction with
Nintendo Japan, then Blue Storm,
then Tendency, Avalanche, all games
that I really liked a lot.
My first... Sorry, I meant your brand
Hunters.
And then we're making a Metal Gear
like aesthetically
story driven boss game
where you play as a cyborg with a
fucking hammer. I was always like
I want to play that super bad.
So the guy that
was behind the games you all listed
was the guy that took the fall
for this.
And they threw
the ship and exclusively
blamed him for it.
It was a really fucked up game.
Anyway, all that to say
I was like, that's cool, fine and dandy.
Where's the build at?
But what does Hammer stand for?
What does that acronym mean? We never found out.
Exactly, and I tweeted
that at Unseen64
and the guy replied to me and said
you know what, I'm going to try, I'm going to see.
Good, I'm going to look into it.
Thank you, Woolly, for making this happen.
Hot American machine,
energy recoil.
Yes, damn, that's good.
It's easy. You know what I bet it stands for?
They didn't think of it yet.
Yeah, probably. They didn't think of it yet.
They literally were like bullfucking bullshit
of the acronym. But next week we'll have a story
where it's the coolest thing ever.
Like, oh man, project Hammer
was totally worth all that implicit racism.
I hope we get what it stood for,
the full acronym, and I hope
we can launch a game jam with that
acronym as the goal sounds great.
Meanwhile,
over at NOA,
Bill Trinnin
is apparently entering Smash Brothers
for pools and emails.
Which is, that's crazy.
That's unusual.
Every other fighting game
has always had a hard
rule, specifically Japanese
fighters, about not letting
employees
be smashed.
Bill Trinnin is not Japanese and Smash is not
a video game at all
if you're really thinking about it.
You think about it a bit more than not at all.
Yeah, pretty much.
Tune in live to see Bill Trinnin
guess what he wants.
And it's gonna be great.
Maybe he's successful.
I know that. I know it's that hard rule.
I would love to see
the fucking employees of Capcom
be allowed to fucking play in the street.
Especially after they sit down and play.
I would love to have fucking
great fighter 5 Q18.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Not the first EVO.
Not the second, not the third.
The fourth EVO.
Games had years to stretch.
Okay guys, you have your champ.
Fight the head of the QA department.
I said this not too long ago,
but the gods that set Killian built up
internally,
now that Combo Fiend is there,
he's kind of confirming that
they're pretty fucking good.
But it's not this, like, guaranteed
to be champion and durable.
Good, then let them fucking play.
Yeah, yeah, it's interesting.
That would be a side tournament.
The winner of both pools.
Fight each other for the journey
versus employee pride.
I don't know if it's just on a
sportsmanship thing,
or they might leave in bugs
that they can exploit things.
Good, you'll make all the sicker
when Ricky beats them.
To look like you've officially
beaten Capcom extra fighters.
Maybe that's the problem.
Well, I think it's pretty standard
in contests where people,
or employees, or family
members of employees are never
allowed to compete.
Especially not when it's a prize
contest or whatever.
Do riot employees play league?
Do riot employees play league?
But they don't play in the tournaments.
Here's what you do.
I have a total solution.
I have a total solution.
Charity tournament.
Maybe.
Well, it's not about the money
in that case. What I was saying about the whole
we don't want to make it look like
our guys lost.
So that the kids could have extra
legs or whatever.
I don't think they like it.
Okay, well fuck those kids then.
Good job.
It is not exactly charity.
No way we should have. Yeah, okay, good job.
Fuck those kids then, right?
That's the world that you want.
That's the world that you want.
It could be the fucking elephants
for all you know. You're in Capcom.
Fuck those elephants. I think if you can make
the demand happen, they'll do it.
But I think in reality, there's probably
only single hundreds
or 30 or even
thousands that even know about this.
Street Fighter tournament, you win.
And all the elephants raise their trunks
and dial some slaves.
I mentioned elephants
earlier.
I want to see hidden killers
that have been hidden for 10 years.
That's what I want to see.
I want to know. You know what I want to see?
I want to see we just fired these guys
tournament.
They're allowed to play
because we fired them. That's why Bill
Trenton's there. They are now
fucking full circle.
They are now unchanged.
Here's what I can say.
Mortal Kombat 9
was a launch tournament
at the cinema
that time.
So one of the QA
guys that tested it
on a live music team at no where I worked
back then.
WB wasn't around back then.
One of the guys
that played it every day
and entered the tournament
and he
got second place.
And he lost to JFL
who was the best
Canadian player
who was fucking sick.
He just came in and used the demo
and that's all he needed.
So it seems like you absolutely have
an unfair advantage
up until the top 8.
You're still not going to beat Fudo.
You're getting into the money.
Any jobber who's played the game before anyone
else can do it.
It's like
Kamofin isn't as good
as he used to be because he's working a real job
and all that shit. But when he was demoing Street Fighter 5
against Gutex and Mike Ross
and he knew all this bullshit
that they just didn't know, he's got like
20 tricks in his bag for Birdie alone
and he gets to use each of them
one and he only plays five matches.
He's got
like imagine you're one of the first
Street Fighter 4 tournament and everyone's there
and there's one Capcom employee and he knows how
to do a vortex. Exactly.
It's over. And he's not that great.
He knows what a vortex is.
Exactly. That's what happens
is you fuck up the middle ground
of that tournament. Good! Fuck it up!
Anyway, more fighting games
get all fucked up. You told me not to engage.
I don't mind. That was like last week.
You did not engage with the LFG before that.
I'd actually tell you
every week not to engage with me.
We got some
fucking movie news.
Donnie Yen is going to be in
Star Wars.
To be perfectly clear right now
this is rumor and not confirmed.
But still who cares?
It's not episode 8. It's going to be in
the, what is it, Rogue?
Star Wars.
Donnie Yen's going to be a fucking Jedi.
Oh wait, he's not in 7? Not in 8. Not in 7.
It's going to be the spin-off movie.
So you can have a scene where he punches a guy
in the place of King of Fighters 2002?
I'm ready.
Nepo Lang.
Playing on the fucking clog stage.
That's super great.
The only reason why this strikes me is that
Donnie Yen has given interviews where he's like
I will never work in Hollywood again.
Well good thing it's in space.
Well he's gotten the shaft so many times.
Well no, because he never even bothered.
Hey, money speaks.
The only American movie that I don't think
has ever played two.
And that's because Guillermo del Toro
loves us again.
Plus that money is direct.
I'm never going to be in a Hollywood movie ever again.
I don't know why.
There's that.
Hey, have you seen Barcura's animated trailer?
It's pretty cool.
Yeah, I kind of got bored of it.
To me, but I was like...
I wanted to see more.
I know it's a Shot for Shot recreation of the trailer.
I kind of wanted like, Shot for Shot recreation
of cool scenes that I want to see.
Well how long did you spend going through
that vlog is the question?
Oh, you didn't see the original Barcura vlog?
No, I just watched the video.
Okay, because Barcura started
like an art project between
tons of artists.
Because the trailer
is done in a more straight up
Simpson style.
But the art and the colors
and the crazy dramatic lighting
done in some of the original panels
in my opinion has more fun with it.
And it's a bit more interesting.
But I think it's cool.
Yeah, it's cool.
Who gives a fuck about that shit?
Let's talk about Mother's Basement.
You said it's on the fucking docket.
What? It's the fucking sickest shit in the world.
Alright, everybody.
I tweeted this out.
If you thought you enjoyed the JoJo intros
shut up, you're wrong.
You didn't enjoy it as much as all you did.
They're better than you thought they were.
Oh, is this that video you mentioned to me?
Yeah, that's correct.
Part 2 came out today.
Before we started this.
Our jaws were dropped and he spat all over himself
in shock.
They're 10 minute videos.
The first one breaks down JoJo and
the second one breaks down 3 and 4.
And this guy, Mother's Basement,
he let me know that it went up today.
And he breaks down the frame by frame
depth of these OPs.
There's so much shit in there.
They make other anime OPs
shit with how much detail they have.
It's insane and it's amazing.
Don't even spoil it.
Shut up.
Don't say anything.
Don't say anything.
We're moving on.
Shut up, we're moving on.
Symbolism
frame by frame.
Unbelievable.
Watch it.
You guys listen to
Jim Sterling vs. Digital Homicide.
I did not, but I heard about it.
I heard those guys are nuts.
Digital Homicide.
I actually don't know.
They made a game called The Slaughtering Grounds.
This was actually Cranky's story of the week
because he told me this.
Then when he caught it with Woolly,
he told Woolly, he was like,
people tweeted it at me too.
This is a guess. Is The Slaughtering Grounds
an early access game that he
slammed and then they copyrighted
and struck him down.
It was the first big one.
And he slammed a couple of their games
in the transition episodes.
A man's British I always say.
Just pure dreck.
So the guy
at Digital Homicide
he made
like a Jim
Sterling
Troll zombie thing that you could attack
or like a DLC, I don't know.
Just some dumb thing.
I had him attack on Jim Sterling.
That's where that comes from.
He made
response videos
and counter attacked and whatnot
to try and defend the fact that his games
were made from off the store assets
on the Unity
which admittedly you're allowed to do.
You're allowed, but it's full taste.
It's kind of frowned upon
because it's not really original.
I would contend
in this magic world if you made
a 10 on 10 amazing game with completely store bought
assets, nobody would care.
That would be the exception
to the rule.
Exactly.
So this podcast is
them actually hashing it out
having a conversation going all right
you want to talk to me in person.
How long is it? We'll jump on Skype for an hour.
Sick.
And we'll have at it.
And they do and it is
fucking pain.
Any name calling?
At points.
I listen to the whole thing.
But
the general
thing is you're listening to
a guy that
I don't know how to explain it,
but you know when you've worked with
the type of dev that
doesn't understand
what he's making is not fun
or good? It's too close to it.
I'm going to stop you for a second.
This is a much broader concept
than game developers.
No, Woolie's being really specific right now.
I don't know exactly
what he's talking about.
You're dealing with that over
the course of an hour while Jim is
trying to get
the point across and trying to listen
to what this guy has to say.
But every defense
every argument this guy's making
for his shitty games
is just like it was just
backwards logic. He's so blindly confident
in what he's making when it's just
bafflingly
and half of his argument is
half of his argument is
the TV trope you're not so different
you and I
where the villain is trying to convince the hero
that you're just like me, right?
You just use shitty green light games
to get yourself over.
No, you use videos with
assets from other people to talk
about your critiques and whatnot.
I use assets from other people made to make my game
and your critiques and my
coding go into a mix
of other people's things.
It's mind-numbing
but it's entertaining because
there's more than a couple points where Sterling
guffaws and Burt breaks out
laughing at things the guy says.
Yeah, no.
This is not a work.
This is happening.
These two people are talking and move.
It's too raw. Ultimately, it's a shame
because this guy just dug his own hole
and at the end of the day, people are going to
remember Jim Sterling and people are only
going to remember this guy as part of Jim Sterling's legacy.
That is the exact
point of one of his Jimquisitions.
Yes. Is that you
are now in your fight against
the video about slaughtering grounds.
Irrevocably tied the name
slaughtering grounds to Jim Sterling.
And now no one will ever, ever, ever
think of slaughtering guffaws
without having the word Jim Sterling
pop in your mind.
It lets you know that no one will ever remember
your game.
What game is that? The one Jim shit all
on?
Do you mean Vanquish?
In a stroke of genius
that couldn't be written,
the call ends
on this weird, because it's shitty quality call.
The sky
hang up a little bit of rustle and
bustle as the table moves around
and then the guy going, how did I do?
And then it cuts off.
Oh, yeah.
And so I was like, that's perfect.
I love everything about this.
If you've got an hour to cringe,
go listen.
I'm gonna, I'm gonna pass.
I'm gonna listen, totally. How about how you do that cringe shit?
You pass, but you gotta go read Genito comics.
But if you've got more than an hour,
if you've got 15 to 20 years,
hold on,
cause no more Heroes 3 is coming.
In another 15 years.
I want to give a shout out to Destructoid for using
a really good piece of art for the story.
Jonathan Holmes wrote the article.
Told you. He's in there, man.
He's in there now.
But generally, it seems like this is almost a
non-story, because it's like
No More Heroes coming out in 15 years
and it says, suit if you weren't jokingly states.
Yeah, of course.
This is a fucking Tarantino
thing.
But if you're saying a game is coming out in 20 years,
you're obviously not stating a fact.
It's gonna be dead
like in two years.
With swear, you would never know you're right.
Fortunately, this is
Suda.
Yeah, I get the mixed up too.
I don't think you could ever know in 20 years
if you even have the rights to it anymore.
I don't know if like
Suda's floating head will be able to still make games
in 20 years.
But in 20 years, who even knows
Video games will be totally gone.
Yeah, you'll be making trademark
Apple
plan lessons.
Not too long ago, maybe three or four months ago,
someone said
or he was just like
I really want to make it over here.
Lots of people ask me
if we're on time.
You don't want to play Apple plan lessons
by Apple studios
and mine was actually important.
I gave you like 45 seconds
to come up with that.
Apple plan lessons.
That's the future.
That's where the industry's headed in 20 years.
Fuck.
Never mind, it wasn't important.
Alright, you know what's not important?
Anything? What were you going to say?
Nothing.
No, come on, I'll make an Apple plan lesson about that.
Done, next story.
You see the intro for Pokken Tournament?
Yeah, it's pretty cool.
Next story.
I said the whole story!
What else?
I want that to be the whole story.
This was fucking cool.
I didn't know about this
but we're all pretty excited for Until Gone.
Now they've announced
it's going to have
2 to 12 player multiplayer.
What? How? I didn't hear this.
They just came out and said
it supports...
Wait a second.
Before you ask me for details, I can't do this.
No, just remind me.
I am thinking of the right game, right?
The arcade and penitentiary Story Horror.
Wait, what?
It's...
I am thinking of the one that
showed us at the conference
that's like the multiple choice adventure horror thing, right?
Yes.
That's an actress.
She's the main character.
That's an actress, lady.
There's multiple main characters.
The one they showed in the demo on the stage.
She was here later.
But yeah, they cliched the horror movie game.
That game, the game that looks like
Dragon's Lair kind of, but awesome.
That has 2 to 12 person multiplayer.
That's what I just said.
I thought my memory was wrong.
I thought I was thinking of
like last year.
I'd put my money on people voting.
Well, let me update.
This listing was a mistake.
It has no multiplayer.
Are you serious?
So, original story...
Episode 100 update.
Episode 100, everybody. This is everything you can expect
from this fucking podcast.
I'm still excited
for this multiplayer mode.
I'm still excited for this multiplayer mode.
I now regret not getting closer to the microphone
while I ate my food.
If you want to play into one multiplayer,
you can lend your significant other
the other half of the controller.
I pulled the story off for Silicon Era,
and this morning,
as of 1145,
the story said it had 12 players.
It's almost been 12 hours.
Was it Silicon Era
the very first place to break
the FF7 Remake News?
Where this story originally came from
was just a listing on the PlayStation
Asia site.
So...
Yeah, well, whatever. Doesn't matter.
Game's awesome. What am I supposed to do?
Well, you're not to blame.
I know, but it feels like I...
No, you're not. Just we have to factor.
Yeah, yeah, woolly.
You made the game not have multi...
That's what just happened.
Yeah, what else we got?
In foam cannon,
it still looks cool.
Enthusiasm is what we've got.
Enthusiasm.
You want to talk about how the guy,
the Valve Economist,
that took over to go save Greece
fucking quit because six months later
he's like, no, I can't do this.
I made it. I made it.
I actually made a joke
earlier about the drachma
that everyone sent.
I heard it.
Yeah, I'm not surprised. That shit's a mess.
Shit's harder than hats.
Do you just bomb Greece at this point?
Do you just end it all?
What? Nobody knows what's going on.
He's in a country where you can't pronounce
even the most basic last name.
Just give him philosophy.
No, he still can't do it.
I was at, okay, Cranky's
real last name is Super.
It's 14 letters.
And he met another Greek person.
No, not even.
Put in two more, right?
And he and another Greek friend
are talking to each other and they go,
I can't believe your last name.
And she also had a long last name.
Only in Greece.
Get John Chamolto over there.
He'll drop a car into the sunset
and everything will be fine.
So you guys want to talk about the Greek economy
for 45 minutes?
I don't, but the only other thing is
Europe's weird. That's what I have to say.
It happens when someone leaves the Eurozone.
Nobody knows.
The Phantom Zone.
There's a Predator trailer.
Is Predator cancelled?
Is he not coming out anymore?
I watched the stream of him earlier today.
Predator may not be able to pay his debts.
And may be forced out of the end.
And it's hard to pronounce his actual name.
Yep.
No, no, I'm sure even.
I watched the stream of him today
and he looks way,
way more interesting than Jason.
Has tons of great things.
Can detonate himself and the detonation bomb
will attack someone even during throwing animations.
The funnest part about him
is when he takes damage, he bleeds green.
He bleeds green.
So I'm always at a point where I go,
how long will I wait
to turn off the chat in this stream?
And it went to a record
.5 seconds
where it goes, someone goes,
this is bullshit, why is he bleeding green?
Fuck you!
Turn off the chat.
You don't belong here.
Don't even know the character board.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Was there a little small black and white face
after that sentence?
There were some, because multiple people said this
and then other people said it legit.
Because if there was a little cap on it.
Was there the phrase,
I-la-mowl
after this?
I know, there are multiple people,
some are doing something about it.
You know, parts of the internet
fucking love how horrible they are.
There's a chance that you might have got guys.
Nothing will stop you.
That fucking onomatopoeia
of fucking Brazil
you laughter
will never, ever
not make me laugh.
But suffice to say, Predator has a trap
where if you touch a mine,
you then get flipped up
tugged by a wire around your heels
and you're just hanging in the stage
and Predator can do whatever.
What is that bullshit? That's not one of the comments.
That's pretty one of the comments.
It's the same thing as like you know Freeze or whatever.
Shinnok actually calls him the Predator.
Just like he did to Jason,
he's the only guy, because I assume
that was the last voice actor they had to do.
No, because he's Elder God.
He's got the Death Note eyes.
You can see your true name.
He's Kaoru.
I'm just going to fast forward to the end of the podcast
saying, Matt, what are you going to be doing this week?
I'm going to be playing as the Predator
tomorrow, most likely.
I'm sure he's going to have a sick
fucking story ending.
That x-ray was pretty fun.
That x-ray was really good.
His fatalities, I haven't seen the full one yet.
I saw one on the stream.
It was alright.
Better than Jason.
The one thing I was going to say about Poké
was that I was wondering if they're going to add in
the trainers running around in the background
the last second.
I was waiting for that to happen
and it seemed like they never did.
It was like, oh, they're just going to do the
com connection thing.
Did you see it?
There's a little virtual screen behind the Pokémon
where they're talking to them.
That's how they simplify that problem and whatnot.
It would have been cool to have the characters select.
I really can't wait for them to announce
the console version.
Now it's a question of
is it an X or is it Wii U?
How do you think I feel about the fucking Mooda City?
I was hoping the trainers
would be the grooves that you could
pick.
See, that's shit.
Get Horn Drilled all my Pokémon.
That's excellent.
Yes.
If you want to talk to us
about your Pokémon movement
that double is sex moves,
you can send that letter in too.
Super best sex moves
at gmail.com.
That's our other podcast.
Super best friendcast
at gmail.com.
That's super best friendcast at gmail.com.
You should change it to super best sex moves.
Because then people actually
emailing super best sex moves for action.
God damn it, Plague, stop emailing us.
He knows.
Shout out to the Plague's
tenacity.
His
first video-trifusion
of Blanka Kodokan.
That was fun. I'm waiting for the rest.
This was your $7,000 Dream Commission.
That's correct.
So we got one coming in from
Only one this week.
Well, you know what? More like two.
There's a really busy week, unfortunately.
Or I can sort through them live
and try to make it smooth.
Oh boy.
It's like having the lights not be on
is really messing with the fact that
there's a lot of time and hours.
We never know because when we start with
the light out, we can never
solve this.
Ryan says,
Winning sucks.
They're super centennial friends.
That's a really good
excluding MK9.
What story in any medium do you think
has the best instance of
you won but the cost of victory was so high
that you're still fucked?
That you're still fucked?
What features the ultimate in my opinion?
Avengers vs X-Men.
It did not turn out
really well for anybody.
Don't call this a win.
Don't call this a win fucking Cyclops.
Just the fuck up.
Yeah.
I'm gonna go with God of War 3.
Yeah, that's a good one.
Also God of War 2
and God of War 1.
Yeah, but most of God of War 3
is like the absurd
ultimate version of this
episode.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I got one on my mind but like
this is a huge...
Nep-Nep.
There is a Nep-Nep ending.
Nep-Nep 2.
It's stupid that I can be right by
taking that.
Like throwing out a random thing.
Fuck.
No.
I guess we'll just play that all weekend
on this video.
I guess I'll pick another one.
Soul Sacrifice.
Oh, yeah.
That seems like a game that we should
take away from that.
The vanilla story, the whole thing
is like you can save or sacrifice people
but if you sacrifice them
you like gain their power
and memories and stuff.
But if you save them you just bring them back to life.
So when you fight the big bad
you either bring him back to life
and fight him again.
Or you absorb his power
and memories into yourself.
And he totally overpowers your body eventually
and you become him.
And you're fucked.
Like there's no good ending.
No, that's a good ending.
You win.
If you say so.
Whatever you say, buddy.
He got what he wanted.
No, I don't know.
A little bit of sweet.
It's one of those genies.
So you climb up there and you find out
those fucking apples are poison as shit.
You're like, damn, I'm super mad
they took this glitch out of the fucking European bird.
You're gonna carry that limb four times.
I don't even think the ending of MK9 is that bad.
You got rid of Kong, you got rid of Wukang.
But then he just came back.
Yeah, he came back as a cool character.
Khan's ending in Street Fighter 4.
I don't even know what the fuck it is.
What the fuck is it?
He beats Ihonda and then they shake on it.
Does he really have the best oil in the world?
He needs to come back for five
so that we can get an answer to that question.
I fucking wish you could come back fighting
to find the answer.
James wants to know
what is the sharpest increase in quality
between iterations of the game?
DMC2 to DMC3.
I think that's fair.
Because they knew they had to?
It's such an obvious answer.
I had to get it out fast.
You want to disqualify that one?
Yeah, I do.
Assassin's Creed 1 and Assassin's Creed 2 is pretty sharp.
Really?
I'm gonna say Zoe to Zoe 2.
Not the sharpest.
It went from a good but rough game
to a game of the year.
I didn't feel like it was flipping the tables on its head though.
I didn't.
I'm very confident in Zoe to Zoe 2.
Because mediocre game of the cool idea
to one of the best games of all time
without any question.
Uncharted 2.
Uncharted is an okay game
but Uncharted 2 is fucking nuts.
Metal Gear 2.
Metal Gear 2 to Metal Gear 2.
I think they're kind of two different.
I guess if you have to cut the time.
Yeah.
They're all on the same page.
Ninja Gaiden 3.
Ninja Gaiden.
If you want the real answer,
the all time best, greatest answer,
that can't be beaten.
Street Fighter 1 to Street Fighter 2 World Warrior.
There's no competition.
We're done.
There's no competition.
Go fucking find Street Fighter 1.
That game's a piece of shit.
It is mind blowing.
That game came out after ER Kung Fu.
Yeah.
And was that bad?
It's Street Fighter 2.
You're talking about
Street Fighter 2.
It makes me so mad.
Street Fighter 1 is so awful.
Let's talk about air next.
We're fine.
I think RE3 to 4 is an interesting one too.
Because it's a pretty good game
but then 4 is the best.
It's actually Code Veronica
which is even better.
Because Code Veronica is supposed to be 3
and 2 is supposed to be the side.
It would be 0.
Zero to 4?
Yeah.
2002 to 2004.
No, it's Remake to 4.
No, this 4's design
was based on the remakes
of poor sales.
But that's Makami made
RE4 the way it is.
Because of the lessons on
Remake and not on Zero.
I can say if we're going for
more than two games,
like a continuing combo,
the beautiful Joe franchise
going from beautiful Joe 1
to 2 to Red Hot Rumble
is what the fuck was that
even called?
You're going in reverse though, right?
Yeah.
You switched the DS 1
and Red Hot Rumble, yeah.
The DS was pretty good.
I can't even remember.
But the beautiful Joe franchise
still good.
But I don't feel like any game
that came out in beautiful Joe's life
was better than the one that came out.
The second one was really good
and more of the same, yeah.
Mario Sunshine of Mario Galaxy.
It's a good one.
Yeah, that's a good one.
Again, not the darkest.
Twilight Princess to Link's crossbow turning.
I was going to throw
some bullshit at you.
I like that game.
Okay, we got one from
Bud Boy Jr.
And he says,
hey, Super Budman Lords,
long time listener for some writer.
Thank you.
Timely emailed this week.
Now that you guys are 100,
could you...
You can do it.
It's worded weirdly.
Just read it.
Your own interpretation.
Now that you guys are at 100,
if you could live to 100,
would you prestige your life
and retain all knowledge of your past life?
Or would you stay 100 years old
and stay a crazy, ultimate old man?
Or would you stay at 100 for a while?
Or would you prestige your life?
I'm going to assume
he means get another 100 years old.
New Game Plus or
continue your side missions?
New Game Plus for sure.
Why wouldn't you?
What benefit is there to not New Game Plus?
If you get to retain
even basic knowledge,
like, Microsoft's gonna be big.
Fucking...
But you rule Earth.
So you've got to wait 20 years
before you can be a human again
when you New Game Plus,
but if you're an old man going from 100 to 120...
I don't want to think more than Joe.
Yeah.
It's as cool as that is.
There's no argument for the opposite.
I think there's a line in the
Edward Norton Incredible Hulk
where Emile Blonsky goes,
if I put what I knew today
in the body I had 20 years ago,
I don't want to fight that guy.
Unless you were in
startlingly good health for a 100 year old,
like...
Yeah, if you're Captain America, fine.
Or Nick Fury.
Jack...
No.
I'll just pick an hour-end of names on my marks.
Anyway, he's a real person.
Jackalope, the fictional...
The guy that was style rabbit?
80, that was bodybuilding
in the suit.
One from Nick
who says...
What's the most stereotypical thing
you've seen from a person of that stereotype?
Uh...
For me, it's...
He is having
his talk in the Red Wall series
by the book Brian Jock.
I'm not sure, but...
I've got one.
I have on numerous occasions seen
fully eating chicken.
And drinking purple.
I remember that specifically
because there were no words exchanged.
Because I looked at him and he looked at me
like, you really?
I'm like, no, I got what I wanted.
I...
I was with Schmuck got Pat.
And it was one afternoon
we were all pretty tired and hungry.
We were like, alright, let's just head on down to the KFC.
Why not? We hate ourselves enough.
Fuck it! All I'm willing to
is just walk out of the KFC.
You know what? Like, the mood
felt right.
It was that kind of day.
And so we're standing in line there
just like laughing at ourselves, being like,
oh god, here we are doing whatever.
It's ironic.
So, uh...
old, wise looking,
almost like a magic pixie black man kind of thing.
The magical Negro.
Looking dude, walks up
who we've since dumped
Porterhouse Carter.
That's solid!
That's good!
And he's like, okay, so tell me about
tell me about that.
What is this combo over this family feast?
And they're like, well, you got
the sides in the business.
Can I get...
Can I get the feast? And they're like, yeah,
you get the coleslaw, your choice of whatever.
It's like, no, no, no, I don't want to hear about none of that.
I just want the chicken.
And we just want...
And you just stay in line?
We melted into the crab.
And then you both go,
what's our uncle doing here?
You know, woolly,
when you and Liam were all in Japan,
almost everyone there
acted like a bunch of stereotypical Japanese people.
Yep.
Ironic.
Sure, it's true.
Japan stereotypes hold up aggressively well.
Very quiet, very polite.
Just this past weekend, with Cranky,
he was getting something
red, like a 7-Eleven,
the Doppener, whatever.
And some guy, a French guy,
he's living in Quebec,
he's on his phone, and he...
I don't know the context,
but he literally went,
and I was like,
all he needs is to be eating fucking frogs.
I have made that noise.
I've seen my dad make noise.
I didn't hear what he said before.
I've seen my brother make that noise.
I didn't hear what he said after.
I remember specifically
a moment at the dinner table
when we were watching hockey,
and dad is smoking, and the May west...
No, the joy was Joe Louis.
And the cigarette doesn't leave the mouth.
And he eats the Joe Louis
around the cigarette.
That's fucking KBQ.
It's like, dad, you fucking French man.
Like, come on.
Pepsi and mayonnaise.
We're watching the half, Pat.
That's great.
We're losing again.
Not too long ago,
come eat at a pizza pasta.
He was joking, though.
I'm pretty sure.
So now that's a thing.
We were going through Netflix and we saw a documentary
about Mediterranean sharks.
It'd be really funny if these sharks were like,
eh, come eat at a pizza pasta.
And every animal
that's from a particular nation
just has a racist human accent.
Eat at a pizza pasta.
Charles Martin was at Comic Con.
This one?
I really wanted to say something like
that Mario would never say,
but it never got to me.
Two things, I guess.
Super Quebec stuff, where I was talking
to a friend of the family
and his wife,
and she's super Quebec
born, and he's kind of more English
from Ontario.
Yeah, exactly.
And she was talking about how
she had to replace the windshield
on her shawl.
And he was like,
what even is a windshield
in French?
And they just sat there until one of them
talked about it.
What was she saying?
The windshield on my shawl?
Wait, sir.
Okay, so I called
the kids,
I called a cab
to get to one of you places the other day
and the guy passes by my house
because you know my house has the weird
corner. And I'm trying to explain to him
that he passed the thing
and I can't for the fucking life of me
remember the French word for
building?
And he got it.
And he's like, oh, there's
what building?
The building on the corner,
you just take the right
or something like that.
The building on the left.
Okay.
I'm like,
I love it.
Our language is dying.
We need to defend it.
Assume more English into our language.
See, we have our wall
but there's cracks filled with some English words
here and there.
It's like the creep is expanding
across the planet.
That is French.
So we need to assimilate more language
but we're worried about the fucking
words that are
causing our creep to dissipate.
The ultimate is working at a grocery
store and helping people bring their shit
to their car and it's like
I lost my shawl
in the parking.
Yeah.
Shawl.
Shawl is an amazing word.
I can't believe people still
say shawl.
That word is like 50 years old.
People say that shit.
I bumped into a gaggle
of fans at Montreal Con Con.
They're all French.
And they go,
never stop.
All of you speak French here and there.
It's always hilarious.
My girlfriend has the problem
where she'll assume a word translated into
English is pronounced the same way.
It's unfortunate because it's really long words.
I don't have any examples off the top.
You'll still hear me do it
every now and then when I say shit like sarcasm.
Yeah.
Where it's just like
I speak English 99% of the time
but sometimes my brain
just fucks it up.
It's like, oh no.
Oh, stop caching it.
What's he called it?
I remember two years ago at Christmas
at my...
Oh, that's a fucking Quebec name.
Wow.
He's Saint Jean Baptiste.
Saint Jean.
Saint Jean.
Saint Jean.
So like fuck.
There are 100 million people
who are in his place for
a super French-Canadian Christmas party.
Fucking square dancing
to a French-Canadian
fucking cowboy franga
and other assorting
What is fucking his?
Is there a fucking CRT without his gratin?
Yes!
Then it's still a CRT
in that room and it still plays that.
I was talking to Mike about fucking Elvis
Gatton like fucking nine months ago
or some shit.
Gatton.
No one will ever...
You cannot explain Elvis Gatton.
No.
And then my cousin comes and he says
I'm gonna put on the good stuff.
We have our own Frawleywood is what it is.
Yeah.
I love fucking Elvis Gatton.
Fucking good shit.
Quebec culture is fucking the best.
It's so fucking weird.
It's so good.
What's coming up?
Is there anything on the channel?
Tormento.
So that keeps good.
Spoiler. That keeps good.
And the right to sex hell always continues.
Right to hell sex.
Right to hell sex.
Sex hell ride.
They ride me to hell.
It goes on.
Sorry.
We need to send you...
I sent Liam and Woolie
that fucking animated gift that we asked
people to make of the cut scenes just stopping.
Of the water thing.
And Woolie refused to respond
but Liam's response to the baptism thing
was literally oh gosh.
I don't think there's been any game
that we've done that's so
giffable.
Is there the fucking cop flying off
the left side of the screen onto the fucking road?
That game is probably the worst game
we've ever played and I'm so happy.
I don't know.
Our callouts are building up so we have to
address some of them.
There's a couple.
We can't be calling out other people
until we address some of the callouts.
We never address an open interruption call.
No. There's an open interruption.
If you want to talk about them
there's best for now
and there's some other stuff that might be coming.
There's more callouts.
There's more callouts that are cooking.
What are you fucking guys doing?
Because I know I didn't
call out to anyone new.
Well Matt accidentally inadvertently
called someone out recently.
That's correct.
I was not intended to release that call.
But people pushed it.
Every time you call
someone out you know they're going to call you out
and you're going to be like fuck I don't want to do this.
All of you get out.
We'll all get called out.
Let's just have a big callout fight
and we'll all stand in a circle
and call each other out and then have
something to do in the circle.
Mexican call out.
You remember that scene when you were doing guns on us
for the Mexican call out?
I'm getting that worst.
We're going to be addressing one of those callouts
this week.
I'm not eating anything.
There's a couple new OPs
that are going to be starting.
We're working out the details
but shit's happening.
And then
the non-stop
confess summer
continues
week after next with
Screw Attack Gaming Convention.
Right after that
is Con Bravo.
Now I
was debating
for a third con
by myself.
You have a problem.
It's pitching the possibility
of maybe squeezing in
another...
Watch it be in England
or something.
Do you think
can I maybe go out to Boston
for Godzilla con?
Chicago at G Fest.
For G Fest.
I've wanted to go the last two years
and something like that.
I have no authority
over your life at all.
This is for myself.
But the answer is no.
I heard someone say
I'm going to Chicago for G Fest.
I would not think it was for Godzilla.
I rocked that spot.
Anyway, now I'm not going to that.
There's just too much to fucking do.
So that's not a thing.
Do you really want to fly down
to enter some guy's garage?
No. So this is what Willie says.
You're going to go in a tiny room
Yeah. A tiny room
with everything I love in one spot.
And not be a splinter of the one
true Godzilla in there.
That you can wear around your neck.
I can lick.
You'll come back to an empty house.
This is the kind
of nonsensible rambling
that you expect.
You're back for 100 episodes.
After 100 episodes.
Stay tuned for...
What are you doing now?
You're too slow though.
What's up?
Stay tuned away.
Have a straight air horn, man.
I made it.
He's hitting the fuck.
No, it's too late now.
He might have managed it too.
There we go.
The only way to save this is to put
4 hours of blank audio at the end
so that people get excited
when this is a 7 hour podcast.
I hate it when videos do that.
There you go.
No, you have to stop playing that right now.
Oh shit.
That's a problem.
That might be a problem.
Hey, I don't know.
It's fine.
Steve Jobs
is fucking skeleton
that's gonna come at you
with an apple.
It's fine.
Stay tuned in.
Thank you for sticking around
100 episodes.
You guys are awesome.
See you in the next 100
which I plan to do
because I gave it 3 digits.
Good job.