Castle Super Beast - SBFC 106: WE DO IT

Episode Date: August 18, 2015

This week, crowdfunding highs and lows, Resident Evil 2 remake, and Guillermo Del Toro's greasy little heart.  ...

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Starting point is 00:00:23 Build it beautiful. To the best friendcast, episode 106. 106. We do it. We do it. We do it. We do it. I need that shirt.
Starting point is 00:00:50 I need that shirt yesterday. That is the most easily made custom shirt I have ever seen in my life, Howard. It is. The five people that would ever be in your hometown will understand. My words cannot describe how happy I was when I saw the shirt didn't say we're doing it or we're making it. We do it. We do it.
Starting point is 00:01:10 I was fucking excited. That was my favorite part of the video, not because of the confirmation, but because of the shirt and his emotion. These are the types of mistakes Calcom should make. Yes, exactly. I don't. Bullshit like that. It should be like perfect translation.
Starting point is 00:01:27 I don't think that's a mistake. I think that's super intentional. No, I know. They're just like... Calvo feels like please write it this way and they're like, we think that's wrong but we're not sure. He's like, no, this is the one true way. That is the quintessential dorky Japanese games enthusiasm.
Starting point is 00:01:44 Do you think we have the shirt made for that or he had it lying in his house? I think he had it made for that. I don't think he did. Maybe he had it made for that like six years prior, right before he started pitching the game and was just holding on to it. He was way too happy to take that jacket off. He was... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:04 I just want to strip. You do it. We're talking about, of course, the revelation that Resident Evil 2 is being remade finally. After that weird week of half-confirmations and awkward fumblings or just informal introductions of the concept, what did the public... It was super weird because I remember talking, I don't know if it was on the podcast but I want us to leave him... It wasn't on the podcast.
Starting point is 00:02:26 It was, I was saying like, okay, this looks like a work. If we see anything at Gamescom, this is all a total fraud like marketing thing, right? Because there's no way they could get anything done by Gamescom. And then we saw nothing at Gamescom, which leads me to believe that, well, no, wait, this guy actually took photos of the pitch. Maybe it's not a work. And actually went to the, like, a used social media to help the pitch go. You know what I think this is?
Starting point is 00:02:56 This is us actually seeing it because we couldn't see it the first time when Ono pitched Street Fighter. Yes. And it was already, when we finally saw it, it was already being made. But we're actually seeing that part that we didn't see as Street Fighter of this one of the... Or like Ben Judd going to get Biocom without the latent racism. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Just brute forcing it and like cashing in on like a Kickstarter that has no money involved in a way. It's just the fans' hopes and dreams. Well, just demand. Just like, hey, do you guys have any demand that, ehh? They want your comments finally pouring in. Every couple of years they go, we know lots of people want us to do this. We cannot.
Starting point is 00:03:36 Well, they don't. One community manager says it when the spotlight's on him every couple of years. Yeah, well that's kind of what it means. Well, like a year maybe. And that's the problem. Because there's a weird narrative in a story where it seems like they weren't aware that people wanted it. So here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:03:51 It seems... As a company. So, okay, here's the... I may know a little bit about this history here. I don't know. So, back in 2002 or whenever, it was that Remake and then Zero came out. They specifically were planning to do this back then on the GameCube with Mikami and all those old guys.
Starting point is 00:04:12 And then the RE, Remake, Zero, and RE4 all sold like shit on the GameCube. Comparatively to the PlayStation version. And in non-relative terms as well. Like they sold very poorly. They sold a little copies each. With RE4 in particular, they looked, well, look, people don't want this shit. They don't like Razim or whatever. Which is baffling on the GameCube in particular because the fucking PS2 version was announced
Starting point is 00:04:39 before that game came out on the GameCube. So fuck that. But Remake and RE0 in particular sold like not enough to not create Capcom's expectations. So they took the lesson that, oh, people don't like classic Resident Evil. And Mikami did as well and that's why he changed RE4 up so much to be more action-y. Because they attributed the sales blame to the style when they should have attributed it to the GameCube just kicking the shit out of being, having the shit kicked out of the PS2.
Starting point is 00:05:11 But he was right to change it regardless of that fact because when I played RE0, even if you can say that it's not the best RE, I was sick of the formula. Yep. Like it was far from RE4, but RE3 and Code Veronica, that's at least like four mainline games that barely changed. Yeah, totally. So apparently this producer, whose name escapes me, but it starts with H, is a programmer on Resident Evil.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Which is one. That's the name that he called. Yeah, producer H. Yeah, producer H. He looks younger than I would think. It's either RE1 or the first Remake. That makes more sense. But I saw RE1, that does make more sense.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Regardless, like since apparently five years now, he has been like, he has been saying hey guys, Remake was really good. You guys want to make RE2? Oh, we, sorry, we just can't top the version that was in Dark Psych Chronicles. Why would we try? Why would you try? That game. I don't understand.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Capcom would very likely look at the old Sega game. Like Resident Evil 2 was terrible until Dark Psych Chronicles came out. Wow. Okay, I'm just gonna, I'm gonna try and get through this. Get through it. See if you can dodge all this. They were probably like a big business. Those guns, it was awesome.
Starting point is 00:06:25 Look at the data, and then come to the same conclusions that they came to the last time. They got rid of that zapping system, thank god. During the process of Capcom saying, hey, we're gonna make more HD remakes, pylons, that shit was amazing. What do we have that can like, be like, turn out right now, make some bucks? And this guy goes, hey, what about Remake, you can HD-ify that shit in two seconds. I'm pretty sure on that list of the best selling Capcom games ever, RE2 is like second after Street Fighter 2?
Starting point is 00:06:55 RE2 is way better. It's not second. It's thick as shit. Street Fighter 2 is not even a new HD game. It's in the top 10. So what is it? Resident Evil. I think either 5 or 6 is 5.
Starting point is 00:07:04 I believe it's 5. They group the sales of each. Oh, no, okay. No, there's two different lists. There's one that was per game, and there's one that was per franchise. I'm thinking of per franchise. RE2. The franchise list, RE2.
Starting point is 00:07:18 No, it's still Resident Evil. RE2 sold a lot of copies. RE2 sold a lot of copies. RE2 sold a lot of copies. RE2 sold a lot of copies. Prior to RE5, it was the most successful of them. And part of that is because it came out on every single platform. It came out on PS2, Gamecube.
Starting point is 00:07:31 No, PS1, and then it was back, it's compatible, and then Gamecube and then Dreamcast and PSN. There was the DualShock version. They're a bunch of really... So, judging by the fact that the paper that you gave in, the pitch paper said take 5, I don't think it's unfair to assume that this pitch has happened every single year for the past 5 years. And you remember there was a survey Capcom put out like a year and a half? Well, probably every single time they had an opening in it.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Yeah, very likely. Because doing it every year seems unnecessary to know. I'm just passing it back out. But you remember a while ago they had a survey? Yeah. Super broad survey. 3 years ago or so? That was like, hey guys.
Starting point is 00:08:11 What do you like? What do you... It was really honest, it was weird. Because Capcom said, we don't know what we're doing. Tell us what you want us to be doing. Well, because like the problem with... I think the problem that they're facing is like everybody is kind of yelling for everything. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:28 And that's not reasonable. Even though there's so many good ones, doing all of them is completely... There's no such thing as money for everything. Yes. That's insane, yeah. And so, one of the things that was of note on that... There's five fuckers in the quarter yelling for flock 2. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:08:43 They really want flock 2. A Djibouti never went away. One of the four... The real obscure one that people are actually screaming for is Dino Crisis. The weird baby offshoot. That's not obscure. That's not obscure. The character...
Starting point is 00:08:58 The game we're talking about is Cyberbots Yellers. What about right now? If your character showed up in fucking the mash-over games, they'd be like, oh, come on. Anyway, I fucking completely lost my fucking... It's fine. No, right, got it. So on that survey, it was of note is that usually you have all the games that you would expect to see in the little click boxes.
Starting point is 00:09:15 And then you have your write-in box. And I would always write in Remake 2 all the time. But that time actually had a, like, clickable entry for Remake 2, which meant that someone in that company... Cop the metrics. Knew that people kept talking about it. They didn't scream at Capcom for it, because there was no one to even scream at, because everyone fucking quit.
Starting point is 00:09:39 I don't even know where Jun Takuchi is. No idea. Dead. Right? He's dead. After RE5, he just died. But it was there. And so apparently Producer H was just trying hard.
Starting point is 00:09:51 And then RE Remake HD was this fucking smash success. That's what I was going to say. I think that, if anything, was the thing, because after that, after working on that, after doing RE0 Remake, this team that is doing these must have this down pat. It could probably make their own... And I think Producer H, who was the lead on that project, if I remember correctly, hoped it was going to be, because there are environments in that game that are completely recreated in 3D to keep certain lighting tricks available that they didn't need to do.
Starting point is 00:10:22 You did not need to completely redo the entire master room in 3D to test how you do pre-rendered style backgrounds in 3D. I wonder if remaking such a high profile game, if they continue to keep it public with their development and whatnot, if it'll kind of shield them from a lot of the stronger criticism that would happen if people were just surprised by what they got in the end, like kind of allowing people to see how they go through it. Oh, so they won't get surprised or get up and orbs about changes if they just drop them. They could see things or see feedback early on by publicly developing them.
Starting point is 00:10:58 So part of that was before they even did the pitch. That's why he asked, the original question is what kind of RE2 Remake would you want? And it was overwhelmingly... I like gun one. In that Facebook group, it was overwhelmingly people going, like I think the top one was like up 11. It should be pre-rendered, it should have tank controls, it should be old, it should have anchor.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Like all the old shit, people want that old shit. And the reason why I'm not totally losing it, how I watched that thing and had like an emotional reaction was like, oh man, that's great, but I'm not even freaking out about it right now, is because we need to see a screenshot. We need to see one screenshot of fucking an environment or something. Like a proof of concept. Until the camera angle is known, I can't possibly get that excited about it. So what if it does come out and it's like Resident Evil 4 through 6?
Starting point is 00:11:49 Then fuck that! You're not even gonna play it? Oh, I'll play it, but fuck that! It'll probably be amazing. It'll probably be amazing. It'll probably be amazing. What if it is like that and it's the best Resident Evil game ever made? It would be, by default.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Well, no. I would actually think it'd be more interesting for it to... It's hard to say because they've struggled to make even something as close to as good as Resident Evil 4 in that camera angle. But if you could get that camera angle, you could get the pacing of RE2. I would think that's more interesting to play than rather straight up RE2. We can't go into the fucking design elements of fucking pre-rendered background games. No, no.
Starting point is 00:12:26 You keep the Gothic police station or do you change it? You have to, absolutely. You would add new areas that incorporate parts of the... Because that's rewriting a town. That's reconning an entire architecture style. You would add new areas like the Lisa Trevor thing that would incorporate parts of the cut modern police station from 1.5. Lisa moves into the bottom of the police station.
Starting point is 00:12:48 But you're all gonna have to take my word for me on this. Pacing is dictated by the pre-rendered backgrounds on the camera angles in this series. You're right. I don't think it would be possible. Also, part of the reason that I'm so adamant about fuck that, is that we have the mainline Resident Evil series. We have the side series, which is Revelations. Oh, no, of course.
Starting point is 00:13:05 I don't want it to be like that. We have 100 other third-person horror games, or first-person horror games. Yeah, I was gonna say not anymore. Now it's all first person. Capcom's developing two of those series right now. Fuck, give me the old camera, man. I want it to be the old way, too. I hope it has the 3D controls for people who want it.
Starting point is 00:13:28 I can't possibly see it not having the 3D controls. You know how the Lisa Trevor section, the outside section, was kind of added to the make in those new areas? You don't want to see an RAT. I want to see if it starts, if you take Leon, it starts in his apartment, and he's late. And you have to drive out there. For like six hours? No, not, you know, but there's a little section that's playable, and then it cuts through a cutscene. And you get to fight that little opening battle in the streets with the semi coming in, and that's just like an added section.
Starting point is 00:14:01 That's a hell of a tutorial. You know what I can see? Credit's fading in. For the people that want a different camera, what I can see is that if they were to use pseudo-pre-rendered environments, that the camera angle's static, so it looks like they're pre-rendered, but they're actually 3D. So not pre-rendered environments. But like the same mechanic in general, right? And they can pan it like they didn't see the X.
Starting point is 00:14:26 I can see them having like an unlockable bonus mode that it just changes the camera angle to behind the back. But they would have to be not pre-rendered. Well that's what I mean. I think they should do a pre-rendered that'll last longer. I totally agree. It's the same issues as FF7. It's the exact same issues. You want to remake a game with pre-rendered backgrounds?
Starting point is 00:14:48 Well, it costs a lot of money then. It's going to cost a lot of money now. Hey, Pillars of Eternity just fucking did it. A planescape tournament? No, it's on planes. Teller Torment Numanara is doing it as well. Wasteland uses 3D, and guess what? It doesn't look as good.
Starting point is 00:15:03 More importantly, can we start flooding the internet with producer H replacement videos of Shilabuff? Can we just get that going? We do it. All that shy shit. Why not just use both? They team up. There's a couple things that I've seen from this community in regards to this that I think are insane, and the most insane one that I've seen is I want RE3 to be included as a bonus scenario.
Starting point is 00:15:31 As people who literally just beat RE3 again, you are insane. It's fine. It's not as big as RE2. Whenever an HD remake is ever talked about, there's always people who go like, yeah, I hope they do, well, in the case of Resident Evil, it would be like, yeah, I hope they do 2, 3 in Code Veronica all in a big bundle. And it's like, no, you're fucking high. They're not going to do all 2D. I don't know how well they want that.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Just get the RE6 archives and that has all that. I don't remember how well these people remember those games, but RE2 in particular has enough pre-rendered backgrounds to put it up alongside Baldur's Gate in terms of time, of money, and effort, and fucking detail in those environments. There's a fantastic package that exists for those people. All those games, all together, under one umbrella. Yeah, exactly. Chronicles!
Starting point is 00:16:22 Yeah! You're completely right. To everyone that wants to play Resident Evil 1 through RE3. Those games already exist in some form, somewhere. Do you know what the people that Willie said want that, right? They're thinking about the old games. I liken the thing that's people that actually haven't played them in a while, and they actually boot them up, they go, oh, yeah!
Starting point is 00:16:47 And then they get to a part they hate, and they go, oh, fuck. But Chronicles boils it down to the parts that you just go, fuck yeah! There's nothing to hate in either of these games. Matt, if you want to play that RE2 as if it were RE4, have you that fucking mod thing that wants to play it like deadame? That thing has made some absurd progress. There was a video that someone sent me yesterday of the A and B campaigns being played in simultaneous co-op, and cut scenes triggering
Starting point is 00:17:20 if you get to the correct rooms at the right times in the same way. Well, they better hurry up. That shit is nuts. And the fact that that thing hasn't been shut down yet should have shown us that this was coming. Once again, Capcom. Yeah, Capcom's really good about it. They don't do it.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Fuck. That's good shit, hopefully. Fuck, let the camera be locked and have tank controls. For fuck's sake, please, God. That's what they should do. All right, well, with that, why don't we just roll right into our weeks? Hey, what's up? Hey. I had a really fun week.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Okay, Liam, what's your fun week? I went as a very late birthday present that my girlfriend had gotten me back at the time, but I only had a moment to redeem it now. We went to the strong Nordic spa in Montreal on Ildeser. Is that one of those Turkish baths? It was Nordic. Scheme baths. Ildeser was translated as Nuns Island.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Yeah, exactly. I didn't know what he was talking about. That's what the boss of the Nuns lives. I've never been to one of those spa bathhouse places. Oh, man, it was really nice. It was really pleasant. You make any new friends? No.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Did you have to fight the girls from Hitman Absolution? Yes. I was going to say, you have to fight Viggo Mortensen and his schlongs whacking you in the face the entire time. But it was really nice. It's on a little embankment hillside next to the river. It's super, super nice. They have hot baths and cold baths and in the middle baths.
Starting point is 00:18:48 It's just so nice. You own a sauna? Yeah, there was a sauna. Everything. Did you take it up the street? There's a room. A room I can only define as the hall's vapor room. Or the Vic's vapor room.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Because fuck, I could barely breathe in there. It was so nice. You think that would make you do that? They had a little restaurant built in. It was not cheap, but super, super nice day. That sounds great. It was fantastic. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Now, on-center. Why do you look so suspicious? On-center, great. Yeah. I really like this. I've been to both. I like the variety here. There's just tons of different stuff to throw your body into.
Starting point is 00:19:24 I love on-center great though. You get in, it's hot. You have a fun time in the hot. But we stayed for like four hours just going from thing to thing to thing to thing. It was super, super fun. And I got confused because there's a minus 19 degree pool, but it's very, very chilly. I don't know. Wait, what?
Starting point is 00:19:40 How? All of the pools have like a recommended time that you should go in before going to another one. And most of them are five to 15 minutes. And I misread the sign, and I thought it said that, and I stayed in for about 10 minutes, and I was like, this is really cold. And I got out, and I looked at the sign again, and it actually said five to 15 seconds. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Which is really funny. Apparently, if you're doing multiple temperatures, like going from hot to cold is best, because hot opens up your pores. Yeah. And then cold. And cold gets in there and makes you a water bender. Exactly. And then it closes them back.
Starting point is 00:20:14 You keep going back and forth. Okay, wait a second. That had to be minus 19 Fahrenheit, right? No. It's fantastic. How is the cool... It was so goddamn cold then. 19 degrees Celsius.
Starting point is 00:20:23 I have not seen the fucking, the divers that go into the ice hole and then jump back out of the air. No, but that's below freezing. I know. It's so cold. There's people that do penguin jumping in this. So cold. No, you're not listening to me.
Starting point is 00:20:39 How can the water be that far below freezing? Oh, because it's not frozen. Because it's not still. But also... Okay, that's how. But remember, lakes do get to extremely cold temperatures. Only the surface freezes. Because you swish them up.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Yeah, exactly. Swish them up. It was super, super fun. I had a really great time. I'd really like to go again. I think you have a really high pain tolerance, by the way. A little bit. It means we can beat on you later.
Starting point is 00:20:59 You won't feel nothing. Yeah, only a little bit. The weekly beating goes to you. I'd really like to go again, but not cheap, but I'd like to go again. It was super good. And I finally got around to finishing the first corpse party because the third one's coming out soon. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:21:14 I made it to two chapters in that. There's five chapters. Yeah. So, that game's great. And the only issue I have with it, seeing as it's a remake of a PC-98 game, and thus has some old-fashioned... It's an RPG-maker game. Effectively.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Yeah. Like, it's tile-based movement in a top-down horror environment. The fifth chapter is way longer than any other chapter and has way more necessary steps to complete it properly. Every chapter has bad ends and one good end that's canon, and you need to get the good end to go on. So, the last chapter increases the complexity by, like, a factor of five. You need to get multiple bottles of...
Starting point is 00:21:51 Of... Of... Of... Of... Of... Of... Of... Of...
Starting point is 00:21:59 Of... Of... Of... Of... Of... Of... Of... Of...
Starting point is 00:22:07 Of... Of... Of... Of... Of... Of... Of... Of...
Starting point is 00:22:16 Of... Of... Of... And it was... It was... It was a brutal, brutal chapter, so I finally just went through it. I used a guide to help me through it. I was gonna ask, because that's, like, fuck it, time.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Yeah. No, it was fuck it time, especially because I want to get to the second, because the third one's out in a month. Yeah. Um... Is the second one, like, a beach party or something? No, that one's totally non-canon. Okay, thank you.
Starting point is 00:22:38 That's, like, an alternate thing. Yeah. Um... Uh... Non-canon course, but it's super good, and I was really shocked that the justification for the event was, like, way better than I expected. Oh, really? Usually, like, I know, Willie, it's Pep Peeve of yours, like, the justification is terrible.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Oh, my god. But I got to the end, and I was like, huh, that's actually kinda sensible, you know? Because we had this discussion multiple times in the last couple of weeks. Yeah, exactly. About how every, like, um, a bunch of kids or a bunch of victim people trapped in a scenario... Yeah. Where things are trying to kill you, or you're locked in a death game of some kind. The justification's almost always super dumb.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Yeah, it's always like... See Battle Royale. It's an interesting premise, and you're like, I want to see what happens to the people in the present, but then the mastermind's reason behind everything is always terrible. Yeah. No, the person who got it rolling, her justification was actually really good, and I was like, huh, huh, really? I didn't expect that.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Uh, so I'm playing the second one now, and it's, uh, it's really interesting. Jeez, I remember when I was playing that, I expected the reason to be fucking stupid. I know! I know, I thought so, too. Because the game is kind of fucking stupid, but in a very endearing way. Yeah, exactly. Uh, but I'm playing the second one now. The second one has binaural audio.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Oh! Wow. It is really scary when shit just starts whispering. Is that a PSP game? Is that a PSP game? Yeah, yeah. Damn, that's high-end for a PSP game. It's really cool.
Starting point is 00:23:54 That's interesting. Yeah, it's really cool. They don't often do crazy stuff with it, but when stuff starts whispering around you, it's really... Do they, like, is it an option where they tell you? It doesn't... No, they don't... I just read it on the internet somewhere, and so I knew, and I put on my headphones and
Starting point is 00:24:07 sure enough, it's in there. Damn, that's cool. You're not wearing headphones. You lose that. You lose it completely, exactly. Best. Corpse Party Book of Memories has binaural audio, and it's awesome. It's really, really cool.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Don't confuse that with a Silent Hill game for the... No, exactly. Exactly. Same subtitle. Is it? Is it? Book of Memories? Maybe I'm...
Starting point is 00:24:25 What's the name of the Silent Hill game on PSP? No, it is Book of Memories. This is, like, Book of Shadows or something. It's generic, though. I bought it a long time ago, so I forget what it's called, but whatever. It's a super, super fun, good game, and I guess that was most of what I did. You played it? It's not Ant-Man again.
Starting point is 00:24:43 It was good again. You forgot the game? Book of Shadows. Book of Shadows. Thank you. Book of Memories is the Silent Hill one. Did you and I play? So, yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 00:24:51 Me and Pat both started playing the newly released Everybody's Gone to the Rapture. Did you guys play it? No. No? Okay. So, let's get into this. We started playing this. It's by the Chinese Room, who previously made Dear Esther and Amnesia.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Machine for Things. Machine for Things? I've heard a lot about it, yeah. So it's a first person, so they're very kind of lots of walking, lots of walking. All in all, I was going to say they're very, not one hit, but they're very sporadic in their quality, because I never played Dear Esther, but I hated Machine for Pig. As far as walking simulators go, Dear Esther was pretty good, and Machine for Biggs was fucking shit.
Starting point is 00:25:26 I think this one's kind of a return to form. I think it's very good. I'm really enjoying it. I think it's pretty. It's beautiful. I've just taken pictures all over them. I'm glad I have a picture button. I didn't think I'd appreciate it as much as I do.
Starting point is 00:25:38 It's real. When you don't have to have game logic, enemies, other people, any moving objects at all, you can make a really, really, really pretty walk around game. It's really pretty. It takes place in a little British countryside. It's in Shropshire. Shropshire, exactly. And you walk through and you observe these stories about the denizens of this area.
Starting point is 00:26:06 And they're all pretty interesting, and they're all extremely well-voiced actors. Absolutely no problems with that. God, put on subtitles for this. No, I don't need them. Okay, so for me, the problem that I had is that a lot of these British folk are very British and sound very similar to each other, and it is borderline impossible for me to tell which characters are what without their subtitle text. Are they Xeno-British?
Starting point is 00:26:32 What does that mean, exactly? Are they Last Story British? Oh, no, this says good voice acting. Okay. I have genuine difficulty being able to tell the difference between one character's voice and another. Okay, especially since you don't have, there's no faces to tell. Yeah, they're formless, light blobs.
Starting point is 00:26:49 So I would suggest that, personally. I didn't quite finish it yet, but I'm really close to the end. I did. You got past just the first area. I got past the first little area, which is like a little suburban town area. Yeah. So I played for four hours before figuring this out. I had read right before I started the game that this was part of the game.
Starting point is 00:27:11 So right before they shipped, they moved the run button from L3 to R2. No, that wasn't even it. Or they moved it from something to R2. They moved the run feature from automatically based on how long you've been in the game. Oh, I heard it was on L3. To a straight up button. At some point it was L3. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Yeah. So they moved it to a button and they didn't reflect this in the in-game control, in fact, there's no run button on that controller at all. Just keep moving, keep looking. Yeah. That's all it says. So I really like this game so far. And the story seems really interesting.
Starting point is 00:27:50 And honestly, this is one of the games that I've seen that the title makes a lot of that game better. Yeah. Because if this game was not called, everybody goes to the Rapture, you would be obviously much more clueless about what's going on instead of just going, oh, it's the Rapture. And thus less interesting. But the reason I didn't play that much of it, and Liam can attest to this, boy, you move fucking slow in this game.
Starting point is 00:28:14 So slow. And the run button should really be called move less slow. Move slightly less slow. It should be fucking automatic, by the way. I am a short ass man. And my default non-hurried walking speed is like twice the speed as this game's run. Yeah. I think that's a problem.
Starting point is 00:28:33 My least favorite thing about the game is when you get into a house and your walking speed decreases. Because when you're in a building, it makes you move even slower. Well, to be fair, you shouldn't be super fast enough in a building because you'll bump into that. Sure. That's fine. If you're in a big open space.
Starting point is 00:28:50 There is a part on the west side of that town, or at least I think it's west, it seems like that, next to the church where there's a farm and a straight up goddamn wheat field that you have to cross to get into another house. And I fucking did it, and it took over a minute. And I got to the house, and I was able to go in and look around. And thank God, because if that fucking house had been one of those painted on doors, I would have been so pissed I would have closed the game. You are moving so slowly and the environment is so relatively large compared to your movement
Starting point is 00:29:24 speed that it is actually, I feel like it's telling me not to explore the whole game. Because that is one of those mishmashing, winding, kind of interspersing areas. Even though it's quite linear, the world is quite large actually. It's like a very wide oval shaped hallway, I guess I would describe it. It sucks. It absolutely, like, Dear Esther did not move like this. Dear Esther moved at a PC games walking speed, which is relatively fast. It wasn't, you couldn't run, to my knowledge, but it was fine.
Starting point is 00:29:58 But it's fucking glacial, it's so bad. And it makes, I have tried to start the game like three times since the day it came out. And every time I go, I'm like, fuck, it's so slow. Especially since the second area is one of those long ass country roads with lots of trees to the side and houses, and you look all the way, and it's like to the right, I go, man, fuck, I don't want to walk down that. Both of these little bars are a weird genre, or whatever, I'm not even sure if it's a genre. It's a sub-genre.
Starting point is 00:30:30 But that is like the walking speed or walking simulator is like the balance of a fighting game. So the speed of you in a walking simulator is the only, like, aside from Liam said the interact button. Yeah, aside from looking at shit. But it's the primary form of interaction with the world is moving around, and it feels fucking terrible. Well, you've played Gone Home, I've played Dearestre, and Machine for Pigs, and this.
Starting point is 00:30:55 Liam, you've played just this. I've played this, but I've played other games. I played Vanishing or Ethan Carter, and that felt good. This is the worst. And with it, Gone Home, you're in a house the whole time, right? So a slow movement speed there is fine, because you're in a house, you're not wandering across like in streets and shit. It's rather dense, so you're always looking at stuff.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Yeah, but like movement speed isn't like a killer there. No, exactly. But like here, it's like, oh man. You feel it less if you're not looking out at a giant. And like in the original pitch, like apparently they didn't even want the game to even have a faster movement speed, because they wanted people to just like really absorb, because the game's gorgeous. It's absolutely gorgeous.
Starting point is 00:31:38 But even if you moved it twice the speed, you would still have the ability to stop and look at anything that you wanted. I don't know, like I'm playing it, and I'm like, I'm really feeling it. I like it a lot. I am also really feeling it. It's just this one, this is the smallest nitpick I've ever felt about a game that has had the most impact. This is like, I can't un-invert the controls level of annoyance.
Starting point is 00:32:03 No, just because of the severity of it, where like you're saying it's the only thing, like it sounds like you're not enjoying the game. No, when I was playing it, I was enjoying it, like I really like where that shit's going. I think it's super interesting. The whole Christian Rapture, like everyone's gone, you're left, you're fucked. My idea, like I love that shit. I think that's great. You're left behind.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Like, fuck, it's so annoying, it's so, like, God, it's infuriating. Drives me crazy. Great game. Pretty good. Anything else, Liam? I really like it. No great game. Otherwise, that was pretty much, pretty much where I'm going to go, I think.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Played more PlayStation All Stars, that's all. Cool. What? What? Wait, I didn't even, yeah. It's been a long time since I've heard those words spoken. Seth Kiley just got, like, a pain in his stomach. Because there's a handful of games coming out on Vito on Tuesday that I want to buy.
Starting point is 00:33:01 I needed to clear up some memory cards. So you're like, I might as well play this one last time. Let me just finish the last few arcade runs I have in PlayStation All Stars. Yeah, sure, that makes sense. It's a, boy, that's a fun game that is flawed. In a much more substantial way than everybody goes to the Rapture. It's a bummer, because if only for that one thing, it would be great. Dude, you know what?
Starting point is 00:33:22 It's just good with a fatal flaw. You know what everybody goes to the Rapture deserves credit for? Amazing title screen. Yeah. Damn. The title show is a very distinct color. The title screen is very distinct and stark, and it reminds me of, like, those Conrad civil defense-like things.
Starting point is 00:33:40 Okay. And it's just this very... All the menus flow with it, too. It's this very clean, like, preparedness handbook kind of look. It looks fucking great. I appreciate that. Those good stuff. It's the controls thing, how it plays on the preparedness handbook thing, and the controls
Starting point is 00:33:53 are not moving. Look, it's keep moving. Keep looking. Oh, okay. Yeah. That's good. I like that. But that's it.
Starting point is 00:34:01 Yeah. You ever wake up in the morning and you're like, I'm going to do this, and it's going to go great. Yeah. I did that this morning. That went kind of poorly where I woke up this morning, and I went, I'm going to make breakfast for myself, and the missus, because she's still asleep, and I'm like, I'm going to do this going to do...
Starting point is 00:34:17 Dude, that's romantic. You should do that. I did it, and then one meal got so horribly fucked up, like, half of everything got fucked up. The bacon got fucked up. The eggs got fucked up. The hash browns got fucked up. And then, of course, I just had a bowl of cereal, because I took the bowl of cereal, because
Starting point is 00:34:38 the half of the meal got fucked up, I scraped it off in the garbage, and I gave her the good half. Oh, my God. So I just had a bowl of cereal. She's like, oh, you made me breakfast. Did you just make me? Did you make us both? And I'm like, no, I just made you.
Starting point is 00:34:50 I know what happened. And then you ran back and covered the food in the garbage. Because making one meal is fine for me. I can totally do that, but making multiple and timing everything, this needs to be ready when this gets made. I would be terrible at cooking mama. It's tricky to figure it out. That's not what happened.
Starting point is 00:35:07 Today I actually decided that I should stop being such a child, and I made myself like eggs and toast for the first time in, like, ten years. Congratulations. And I stole your food power. That's what happened. I don't think you did. Because of mine went fine. Well, you made toast.
Starting point is 00:35:23 But it should have, it should have, oh, no, I also made, like, eggs, which I have not made it. Yeah, I made bacon and hash browns and fruit. Yeah, I know, but that's how horrible I am at cooking, that it took all of that energy just to make this one simple thing. I'm sorry. That's fine. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:35:42 I'm not going to even tell you what I made this morning. What did you make? I made a bunch of oatmeal, and I made eggs, and I made a good breakfast for myself, and I made a stew that I had to prepare all the ingredients for. And that's all simmering. I'm trying. So I'm going to have a delicious dinner. But this is one of those issues where I'm still going to go make dessert.
Starting point is 00:35:58 I literally wish I had forearms, because that's the only way I can do it. You have forearms. They're right under your upper. I wish I had the number four of arms attached to my body, smartass. Anyway. Wow, that took me way too long to get. No, I got it immediately. Yeah, I got it immediately, too.
Starting point is 00:36:17 He just responded quickly. Like, why is Matt being weird about Liam's super weird lie that you actually have forearms? So we also, we got a lot of wedding stuff done on the weekend. Again, I'm not going to bar, but we have all the invites. I actually have the ones for you guys, because why would I mail them to you? Yeah, of course. I'll pass it to you later. No, I want to mail to me.
Starting point is 00:36:36 No, you will not get the mail. We didn't even put a stamp on them. Yeah, good. I'll mail it to myself. Everyone in the bridal party, this is the whole fucking thing, whatever. Also, we went to a store where we were telling the lady that we're sister Stokes, you know, there's Stokes everywhere. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:50 And we go in and we're like, oh, we want this for these nice little lantern pumpkin things that look all cool and kind of gothic-y, and we're like, we'd like that to be on our tables. That's cool. And she goes, why, why do you, why do you need these? And I take this lady that's like, like, like she looks like one of the misfits from, from Gem, but now, so she's like 80. Right.
Starting point is 00:37:09 And she needs to know why. And she's like, why are you waiting? Oh, we're getting married. She's like, when? Oh, like on Halloween. She's like, oh, that's, oh, I'll help you. Oh, she gets all this stuff. And she's like, oh, we only have 10.
Starting point is 00:37:17 Do you need 12? I'll call the other stores. Give me right back. And she runs and she gets them all in bags. And she goes, we have another store. It's in Alexis Neon. We'll bring you there. I can bring you to your car.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Oh, my gosh. It's so much fun. She's super into it. I go, all of this is fine. But if she asks if I can come. There it is. There it is. That's where it goes past the part of, you know, just get into the car and drive away.
Starting point is 00:37:37 Thankfully, she did not. I'm like, good. That's good. Yeah. As an 80-year-old grandma, but that, that, that was kind of fun for that. And we also got to zap everything with the gun. Presence. Presence.
Starting point is 00:37:51 Oh, and she's like, no one, no one on my side of the family, no one on my side of the family. Italians don't believe in this. They're like, no, fuck you. We're giving you money. We don't give you things. But this is for the whiteies. Yeah. This is for the crackers on my side.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Absolutely. I love this. So I'm like. This section is a slit in a box. I'm like, pop down steamer. Beep, beep, beep, beep. And then we're like, small fridge in the shape of a Coca-Cola fridge. Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Just beating stuff no one will ever buy. But it's there. For like the crazies or whatever. I have some aunt that's never seen me ever. And she'll buy you a small fridge in the shape of a Coke fridge. Or a hot dog steamer. Or a hot dog steamer. I want that so badly.
Starting point is 00:38:25 It's a cool device to have. It's a cool device. I have no room for it. Under the couch. Other than that, I told Pat about this. I watched X-Men Days of the Future past the rogue. Yeah. So I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm
Starting point is 00:38:40 like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm just like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm kind of like, I'm like, I'm oh, I'm like, I'm kind of like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm so excited, I'm like, I'm like, I'm not like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like
Starting point is 00:39:28 I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like he goes, she's going to have to nicely goes not necessarily, I know someone that can help and him and Magneto Iseman and Magneto and Magneto, sorry Liam, thank you. Go off on a special effects late in adventure fighting sentinels that doesn't happen in the original movie just multimillion dollars shots, they go on a mission and I'm like, Wow, okay, this still does not have Rogan and up until they bust into like a lab and they're testing Rog,
Starting point is 00:40:05 some weird scientist. I'm like, I thought this world was just mutants and sentinels. Like the future that they were showed us. Yeah, there was never any other human like characters. I'm like, that's weird. So they have that. And in the rest of the movie, Rogue just takes Shadowcat's power and just continues the Wolverine mind trip thing. And she's in it like in every shot. She's in the background. You see her, her white costume. She's always there. And she's there. And I'm like,
Starting point is 00:40:33 this is so weird. Like, except for that one cool scene where they go on a mini adventure, she's just kind of sparsely shown there. She looks up makes a sad face. And I'm like, that's so strange. Why cut this out at all? Does it make it better or weird? The scene that bit of of Magneto and Iceman, it was fun to see they have some cool fights with sentinels. So that was neat and strange. I don't know what the real point of it was. Do you think it makes for a better first watch or might as
Starting point is 00:41:01 well? I don't think the movie was any worse or any better because of it. If you're not one of the people that like they're making those cuts for where it's like audiences are going to be shifting in their seats. Oh, of course. Like if you can handle a long thing that's full of content, then why not? I think there was some one or two scenes where I'm like, I don't remember this at all. They're short. So I think there's lots of little nips and tucks. Other than that, I mentioned on my
Starting point is 00:41:27 Twitter, I watched a movie that I for sure was thought was terrible and it's called Unfriended. It's basically a horror movie done of a girl looking at her Skype account and all her social media. And I've seen movies like this before and most of them are bad. I've seen one that was at a Fantasia Film Festival that was good. And this one was actually I was kind of quite surprised by it. It was actually pretty decent and it had a lot of good like teen trope like here's the jock, here's the
Starting point is 00:41:55 good guy. And basically what it is is like a girl commits suicide and it seems like I was like, oh, please tell me this is an actual presence or a ghost in the machine attacking her former friends that are all Skyping it up a year later after her suicide going, yeah, man, she was a bitch. And then something in Skype starts attacking them and making them play like a weird game. And every time they go into Skype conferences with each other, there's this one dummy account
Starting point is 00:42:28 that's just there. And they all attribute to a weird hacker or creeper. And as the night goes on and it's this one kind of conversation. It's one day. It's like it's actually I guess real time. There's no time jumps or anything. And I was like, this is pretty effective. And you know, it's it kind of had a sense of dread like what's going to happen. We don't know what's going to happen. And it was really, really interesting. And I wouldn't say it's an absolute classic had something like 60%
Starting point is 00:42:55 on wrong tomatoes, which is always a high amount for a horror movie. But it's only the most basic human interaction apps that get haunted. It's never the more complicated apps on your computer, right? But I didn't want it to be a haunted Linux kernel. Yeah, no, no, the little penguin on Linux just like looks at you with this murderous look in his eyes. My DX dyag has been my third proxy that's in Indonesia has been possessed by a specific brand by Indonesia goes my uncle died
Starting point is 00:43:29 and I inherited this haunted Ethernet cable. It's strangling people. I think it kind of attributes to that like the thing that causes the girl to commit suicide is a video that got posted on YouTube, right? So it's all interlinked and you're just kind of I was just glad it was that and not pissed off brother hacks, of course, computer. And I'm like, yeah, that's that the big twist at the end. No, no, there's actually no real twist. But it was still I kind of recommend it. It's like it's
Starting point is 00:43:59 an alternative to found footage. It's not footage but in and like, you know, in a different way. They're there for movies have done this style. And I finished Cora season two. And yeah, told you Cora season two until the first eight episodes are like, Oh my God, I am so interested in everything that's currently happening. It's just Civil War War got it. Oh now everyone's against weak villains, very weak villain. But the last couple episodes when they kind of around the 10th
Starting point is 00:44:30 episode, they kind of go, this is how being an avatar even started. Yeah, that was that stuff is the problem with that is that character. I forget his name, but he's a way better character than Cora in that season. She kind of does some more interesting things like right after that but up until I was kind of like season Cora, Cora, Cora season two is the season in which so Aang in that first series where he thought too much and he was a pacifist. Yeah. And you had to push him
Starting point is 00:44:59 to fight anything. Yeah. And Cora was meant to be the opposite of that character where it's a super strong character right away, but dumb. The problem when you make a character like that is that when you hit your second season, that dumb stick is fucking tired. And I remember a bunch of times there's a fight that happens with like her family where she attacks a bunch of them and you're just sitting there going like, just ask what they're doing here. Yeah. All you had to do
Starting point is 00:45:25 was just ask why they're here. Oh, I walked in on a scenario. Yeah. And she was attacked everyone immediately. It's a meaningless problem with a particular episode of Game of Thrones, the game where someone walks in on a scene and they go, you can talk, both you guys can yell or something and kind of clear it might not rectify the situation, but there was two moments in the season where I'm like, this is lazy writing and I don't like this where it was like Cora has a
Starting point is 00:45:55 falling out with a character and then she loses her memory and then she gets back her memory. But when she meets that falling out of the character, specifically the memory of the falling like she gets back her memory, but specifically the falling out, she doesn't remember. And I'm like, that's lazy because if she did remember everything, then there'd be nothing for these characters to do or say. This is an issue because they did not think they were going to get more seasons.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Yeah, maybe like they wrote that first season assuming we're going to just tie it all up. Okay, they had a falling out. Guess that sucks. They fell out and then there's season dudes like the actual ending the ending fight of season two was actually quite strong because they turn it into fucking Dragon Ball. It turns into like Dragon Ball slash Kaiju fighting and the bad guy turns into literally the most evil thing I've ever seen. Yeah, it's pretty and I was like, that's
Starting point is 00:46:43 pretty fucking evil. But it also did this extreme thing of like, I'm like looking at it. It's when Cora is having to fight and it's going really, really poorly and then I'm like, well, here she's going to bring it back and she doesn't and I'm just like, this looks like the biggest blowout ever. The good guys have clearly lost. Yes. And I'm like, how do you run this? And when I saw that, I was like getting super like excited. Like, oh, I love it when I was just utterly fan. I was
Starting point is 00:47:11 and it happens a lot in core specifically. Oh, they were up until the last episode, the back, the good guys are just the worst. They get their asses fucking blown up. They get X pocked all over the fucking place. Season three is the worst of that, by the way. Oh, yeah. Season three has a team of villains. And I watched the first episode of season three and I just see the fucking hero team loses every single encounter like dramatically like not even close. It's fucking awesome.
Starting point is 00:47:40 And sounds like a job for a fan of it. Yeah. Maybe but I don't know. It's not that egregious. Splicing it doesn't seem to be the problem because like you have to cut out every time the core is done. Oh, I have to every time she's on the screen. I have to give it up though. Aubrey Plaza was the best. She's in there really. She's the best as a literal ice queen as a literal ice queen and she actually has a nice little character arc that I enjoy it
Starting point is 00:48:09 actually. I kind of cheered at the end. Yeah, totally. And also really quickly, I got a few matches in the street fighter five beta. There's not much to say. Oh, we all did actually. Yeah. There's not much to say for me because like I trained a little bit and matches started and all of them are terrible. All of them are laggy. Yeah. I didn't know really know what to say. But I mean, I like it. It is faster than Street Fighter four. I'm damaged. Damage is high. I like all that. I told
Starting point is 00:48:37 Pat this though is that I had like the most casual of video game fans like has a PS4 plays at tons. Be blood born. That's not that casual part. But he's into fighting games. But he's into MKX. He's into lots of other games. And he looks at it and he looks specifically rebooted up into training mode. And when he was here, he never got to see an actual match start. And he looks at it and goes, this looks exactly like Street Fighter four. And looking at it, looking at the
Starting point is 00:49:04 training stage, I'm like, it's hard to from a casual eyes perspective. It's hard to what am I supposed to say? The character models look better. I don't know what else to say. I couldn't at the time. It's a beta for like people that are playing Street Fighter. I know, but I'm just saying the proper game releases with a whole bunch of new shine. Then we can scream at them all day. You'll see a lot more. But I was trying to go, well, I mean, the character models look way better
Starting point is 00:49:32 and like just and he's like, and he looks at it and just gets disinterested and walks away. And of course, when you release, when you have to be forced to look at the worst stage in fighting game existence, right, you know, people just lose interest. I would agree with that. Let's take a quick word from our sponsors. You know, guys, we talk a lot about the era of Geo cities and Angel fire and the good old days of the rate of staring. Best website creation has
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Starting point is 00:51:35 JavaScripts to have like, I don't know what that is, you're running JavaScripts to have your title of your website reflected in a pool or a pond beneath it. Oh, yeah, when you want to have a marquee that scrolls, but you accidentally make your whole website scroll. Yeah, I've been there. I've all been there. I can't figure out the volume controls on this auto playing MP. It just jumps to 100 instantly. Why do you want to play checkers or view my
Starting point is 00:52:04 website? You do both at the same time. No choice. The fucking rough dark time. Checkers is like what 10 years. If only if only we could go back then and introduce our awkward teen selves to Squarespace. Squarespace. What is Squarespace? Are you making a comparison of Squarespace to Biff's Almanac? Yeah, it is not unlike the Sports Almanac that would take you dude if you if you if you would use Squarespace to make like a fucking 2002 website, you would have like
Starting point is 00:52:38 willing to own heavy right now. You wouldn't even have to get creepy with your mom. Nope. We true. Here's what we got. We got Squarespace back to the future back. There you go. You're all we're confused. But then you lost it. That was like how did they know? Finish it like Liam said. Oh no. Here's what we got. We got Squarespace. It's got state of the art technology that takes you and your terrible design skills and completely makes up for it by giving you tools
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Starting point is 00:54:35 because I literally had to make a website over the weekend for the wedding. There's a little wedding. So you got to make and it's it's little like you know, maker dealie was all right, but I kind of felt it could be better. And if only I known about Squarespace. That would have saved you 400 hours of hassle 400 hours of hassle making up lies about myself over there again. You could have built you built it, but you didn't build it beautiful. Yes, there you go. It's okay. It's
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Starting point is 00:55:33 us to a session one place called Mr. Spicy is the food spicy. It was they had a Mr. Spicy chicken dish which was spicy and had peanuts. Was there a Mr. Spicy character and or man wearing name tag that said Mr. I wish it was a hot dog. Yeah, exactly. I had a little name tag and it was it was really, really amazing. It was some of the it's it's out in the West Island on on sources. Okay, and it looks like it's in a crack house. That's how they got a great name because no one sees
Starting point is 00:55:59 it. Yeah, but you go on a little like ramp and it's kind of there and it was it was really amazing crack house and also the West Island. Yeah, also the West Island. But it was really, really good. And towards the end, we went back to my sister's place who has the nice little dog Bailey, which is the most standard dog name ever. Bailey. Yeah, it is really. I've never heard the dog name. I know people that multiple people have a dog name Bailey. A really cute dog. I barely see
Starting point is 00:56:25 him anytime, but they gave us two giant cakes, a banana cake and a like a a sweetie rich thing. So then I got at them, right? You guys know, if you guys want cake later, you're welcome to it because there's more than enough time. I think you I think Liam would especially like I would be down for that. I wouldn't pass on the cake. There you go. I need a Cal count. Well, I know a calorie count. It's too much. Yeah. Yeah, the answer if it's cake, then the answer is no. Well, okay, well, I was
Starting point is 00:56:56 going to say that we could use Street Fighter five as a spring off point to segue between us because we all got some time. We did. It's true. So I'll get I'll get my bit done. I played an hour of training. How was it? Yeah, it's great. Didn't get a match in though. Yeah. I mean, you will leave. We got matches. Yeah, I got so I got around like five matches and then I got kicked. Yeah, me too. And then it went back up a little bit later and I got back in a training mode, but
Starting point is 00:57:24 no matches. Yeah, I got matches. Oh, you're lucky. So what like what I was doing as a way of figuring out whether it was up or not was just go to the Twitch broadcast page. Yeah, fresh. That was last time. Yeah, and it works, you know, how come announced that this came up? No, no, after the fact they did come out and say, yeah, so we had that. So what well, it turns out what it was. The reason why it came up suddenly like that was that there was some testing that was
Starting point is 00:57:55 happening and they were testing it was like a server test that they were doing where they wanted to do it on the real servers. And you know, people that were just hammering the button kind of all we all like just locked right in. Well, one of the things is I remember like on Jeff Gershman's Twitter, like 22 minutes before happened or something, he posted like Street Fighter five just got a patch. Yeah, are the servers going back? So that yeah, that was another
Starting point is 00:58:20 indicator. And a couple people got patches around to what that downloaded. Everyone was like, Oh, well, maybe, you know, and then yeah, it went up for I don't I don't yeah, for anyone who's worried about they missed it, you didn't miss it. This was a like a private thing. I don't know. I did not. I don't know. They're still gonna have a week. If you guys pointed out if you guys paid attention when you were mashing through, but the message that came up was not the same. It said like this
Starting point is 00:58:43 is an internal stress test only. Exactly. Yeah, like and then and then when it went down, it was like the Street Fighter beta is currently unavailable. Yeah, so don't worry about people. Yeah, so license a fucking bridge. So it's yeah, that's the weird thing, man is that I went straight to bison right away and stuck with him for the entire first time. And wow, he is heavier than Makoto. He's the heaviest. There is no like Hugo. You can't play like his walk speed is zero. You can't
Starting point is 00:59:10 play foots. Walks like his walk speed is a backup. You press four and he teleports backwards. Your footsie game dude is so deliberate and precise and it was it was a nightmare at first to get used to. Yeah, but you call it a knee press nightmare. No, maybe a nightmare booster. Eventually you get used to it. That's not enough. Fuck. It should be ruined. It should be. You literally ruined this. And then I immediately went and like tried the other characters after
Starting point is 00:59:39 the second time camera because I was too paranoid the first time. Yeah, you didn't want to lose the server access. And the second I was like, oh, everyone else is smooth as butter moving, jumping around, going crazy, totally feels like review feels like a strike for you like heavy and solid, but like bison, holy shit. Yeah, so charge times are way longer for him than I would have expected. It is it is and that's deliberate. It's like a full two seconds. You can't you can't
Starting point is 01:00:04 spam the the infinite scissors as much as you could. Yeah, you know, Charlie's charge times are really small on this. It's crazy how fucking small they are. And you know, but Charlie's someone you take him into the training and you learn like two cart target combos and then you're like, okay, you got it down. Yeah, you know, he looks like a goddamn KOF character. It's it's really, really like his. So we all saw that like bison's costume has changed and his some of his moves have
Starting point is 01:00:32 changed slightly more than usual, but not that much you would seem but actually touching him like this is this is a new character. Yeah, this has not like this has superficial similarities to old bison. He doesn't play anything like him. And it's crazy. The new thing to practice that I I spent my time working on was hit confirm into v trigger into continue your combo. Yeah, and then bison's case linking your exes together for stupid damage. Yeah, that's just crazy. That's
Starting point is 01:01:01 which exes actually work. Yeah, some of them don't to what right. And like the fact that you can now end just about any juggle in into a knee head press like the headstomp, but it OTGs is so fucking cool. I love the game. The game's nuts. It's awesome. So I had some good matches, you know, shenanigans. My matches were all pretty laggy. I was playing people from like, so Cal and like Italy. Yeah, well, I had some I had a mixed bag. I had a mixed bag of bad and good. Um, I had a
Starting point is 01:01:34 blast fighting just the fucking reuse because the because it's interesting because you know that's what's going to happen. Oh, yeah. But I'm like, but bison has a pre equipped. I'm going to catch your fireball watching watching people's like mines just like watching a review player that sucks throw a fireball and you do the throw back and then have him do nothing. Yeah. You're standing away from you. It's the most of the distance
Starting point is 01:02:02 right. Catch and return and then I do the slow walk forward. Catch and return. And it doesn't want to throw anything. Now what? Yeah. I have never seen characters ever. Welcome to go out. Now you have to play Street Fighter. This is the kind of thought you could just do things. Now you have to play. This is the kind of thing that happened in right with with that fireball game. Yeah. So people's brains just and then occasionally you get the well now
Starting point is 01:02:35 I'm going to be trigger and shoot my bigger fireballs at you and it's just like, but no, it doesn't really make a difference. I'm going to be a trigger and through them. It's later. So I like I like this. It feels like our balls are not as inconsequential as third strike. No, but there's there's a lot of indication totally, totally avoidable. Totally. And now what? Play footsie, sir. Don't jump back. Come play with me. Yeah. Yeah. I know we got a very small
Starting point is 01:03:07 amount of time at least into Rising Thunder. Yeah. So well, okay, dude, like the fucking heavens come down from on high and smile upon me because I've been crawling through the Diamond Ranking, which there are some tough dudes in that in that Diamond Rank. It like you once I hit it, it went from like, haha, I'm going up in the ranks to a real ass slog where I would have days where I would go down all the way to like Diamond one and then I'll notice something
Starting point is 01:03:36 that I'll bring up right after you're done and like it became like I guess I guess Diamond is where I'm going to live because I'm only winning like 55% of my matches. But then I looked at Dauntless and I thought, okay, maybe I can use this in this situation and I improve my game and then I'm like, oh my God, I'm one point away. I'm one point away from the master tier. It's not the highest, but once you hit master like locked in, you know, you don't become locked in
Starting point is 01:04:04 but master starts you have to start winning more and more matches to get rank ups. So it's actually like you have to be your win ratio has to increase in order to stay there. So I got there and it's like, oh my God, who comes up in my fucking ranking battle, but woolly and I'm a shit. So I sent him a quick message told him to lose. I know I sent him a quick message that was like gold, please. It was a little cunty. Yeah, it was cunty. And then I was like, man, if I
Starting point is 01:04:39 lose, it's gonna look bad. So it's good thing I kicked your ass. Okay, like it was a good thing woolly was willing to and I'm like, okay, and then afterwards like he's playing kai and this. Well, so no, no, no, you totally dude, you played a solid game and my only John is basically that my side of the were you using diesel strike for the first like couple rounds. It was my third match. Yeah, that's so it's not as good as so what happened. So I logged on and I
Starting point is 01:05:06 saw the update and then I was like, oh shit. This is a new move. And I switched to the new move right and I switched back to not cold drill. I switched back to revolver revolving hook instead of Vandal and was like, let me try this layup. What's going on? I played two matches with it. And then my third one was against you and I was like, oh, okay. And then I was using the tried and true Vandal and so that that's my only job. The hit confirm stuff off like an overhead with
Starting point is 01:05:32 Vandal hook is the best. You can push people all the way to the corner anywhere. You can do it with diesel as well. There's some strengths to it, but there's a fatal diesel diesel strength is that it knocks down. So you get a free mix up every time you hit it. The fatal flaw with diesel hook is that not to get I don't want to harp on for it's too fucking in depth for this, but I know there's one guy on tumblr that likes that. I love it when that only talk as I played
Starting point is 01:05:56 dog. The one flaw with diesel hook is that you can't do low medium into cold drill the same way you could do with that because low medium into cold drill was the same as reuse low medium kick it to fireball and here the if the person's crouching diesel hook goes right over that and you and you also lose your totally brain dead super confirmed. Yes, which is really good for the super it's that it confirm off cold drill is super good because it's so easy, but I
Starting point is 01:06:25 have some ideas. So I'm going to go back and try to make something dude master tier. Okay, so I'm in diamond now by some. Yeah, I bet you were good. But you just needed more time. There is something the ranking system in this game is amazing. Because the instant I hit master tier, I started to become matched up with guys is like, Oh my God, I'm like, okay, I hit master tier. I was master tier for about 20 minutes and was immediately knocked out. So here's where I got some
Starting point is 01:06:54 news for you something I discovered. After that session and then do and then reading a recent interview, I'm not going to discuss the skill ranking and the ranking right so they discussed the skill. The way the ranking system works in Rising Thunder is something where you have a hidden ranking that's your true rank. And then there's your scene rank, which is defined by win loss, win loss exactly. So the so the the one that's shown to you is basically
Starting point is 01:07:20 governed by how much your win ratio is above 50%. Right, so for every win you go up one for every loss you go down one right and you climb until you get to, you know, the different states of metal into the master and so on and so forth. It's carbon, bronze, silver, gold, platinum. No platinum. Diamond into master into legendary. Yeah, there is one above master tier. Those guys are for real, except for when they're not but so exactly but with with one trick pony
Starting point is 01:07:53 that makes up game. But anyway, what I realized is like what they want is they're like we're looking at our charts here and we can see that most people are having a 50% win ratio, which means we're matching people up with their skill, which is good. Yeah. What I realized is the way they've accomplished this when they're not when there's not enough data initially is by literally ping ponging you. So you start playing the game and you fight someone that's way
Starting point is 01:08:19 shittier. It's like you laugh. You're like, I can't believe it. And then your next match is someone that outclasses you eight times over. Yeah. And then you go back and forth this way. And the longer you play, the closer you start to get. It slowly closes that gap. So of course you're going to destroy people and then get destroyed and it's really weird and kind of annoying while it's figuring that out because you're like, I can see the fucking gears turning here.
Starting point is 01:08:45 You match me up against the shell and don't know how to fireball. You're dropping your ping ponging between carpet and legendary, you know? And it's just like it takes a while to get you that nail to where your skill is. Yeah. So for me, it's not as bad as it was when I started probably because I played like way more matches. I guess so. Like it's one of those things like the system needs data. It needs data. It needs data and the more players exist in
Starting point is 01:09:07 the system, the smoother this gets. So when I when I was looking at my like thing, it was like, okay, I'm still like under 100 wins here or so. Right. It's like it's still ping ponging really hard and that I found weird. Yeah, that's crazy. But it eventually evens out slowly. Play more matches and get higher up there and it'll start to even out more and more and more. But that's going to be something that they said, they said that like as a test,
Starting point is 01:09:34 they messed around and they saw some results they didn't like. So they went back to this method and they're going to stick with this and it's just going to be a rough time for beginners when every second match is going to be it's it's it's it's a it's a it's a more accurate but weirder feeling version of your 10 ranking matches. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, so I don't know like I understand why it's happening. I just feel that
Starting point is 01:09:59 it's going to probably scare some people like it goes on for too long kind of don't exactly and if and like you're going you're clearly winning and losing winning and losing and like it's funny and my favorite part of because you're going to read it. Yeah. You don't even read the opponent. You read the game. You read my favorite part of this system is that it becomes more true over time. The higher you get in those ranks. Yeah. But those ranks
Starting point is 01:10:20 start to become more and more representative of the player's actual skill. So that being said, I don't know if like that was the type of match that necessarily negated shouting it from the Twitter Mountain talk. It's not really good. It's not really good. All right. It means that much. It's like, yeah. And then I got and like I crushed me like immediately right afterwards and I lost it and it took me over an hour to get back up into it,
Starting point is 01:10:45 which I was really scared. I was like, oh no, I just bragged about how I hit master ranking. I have to be able to be able to maintain this till like at least tomorrow. I'm glad it means that much to you. Yeah. I'm looking forward to the local that should be arriving soon. Really? Good. No, I don't know. But I hope it does. What you do, man? Aside from fighting games as always. Okay. So I had a pretty busy week. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:12 Sure. So one, I did the boxing classes. How'd that go? That was fucking brutal, but it was great. I noticed you don't have a black eye. The goal. Yes, he does. The main reason, of course I do. The main reason why I wanted to do this is because it was like, I obviously like, I want to lose weight in a fun way, in a way that I could enjoy. And it turns out that the method that they have for these classes is like
Starting point is 01:11:40 20 minutes of super intense cardio, 40 minutes of punch training and then 20 minutes of super intense cardio. Okay. So do it. And yeah, and I'm fucking doing it. And it's like the, like there's a thing they do in the middle of it where it's like every, I don't know, and there's certain intervals, I don't know what they are yet, but every couple of intervals there's a break and it's either a water break or a push-up break.
Starting point is 01:12:02 So you don't know which one you're going to get exactly. So you don't know if you should be looking forward to the break or not, you know? The obvious things that you know about like every, like episode of Epo or every like fictional boxing story you've watched. They're true. They're true. Fucking keeping your hands up is the hardest shit ever. Three minutes feels like a million years.
Starting point is 01:12:25 And when you're at that point where you're like, oh my God, my arms weigh infinite pounds and then someone tries to hit you. You just knew how. You just throw yourself to the floor. It's unbelievable, you know? But as I said. I suggest you just become a clincher.
Starting point is 01:12:43 Well, lame boxing. Yeah. Too soon to see if I'm going to be an outdoxxer. You're literally already over the hill for boxing. Of course. Of course. No, but you know, and I mentioned it on Twitter, but there is no greater soundtrack in the world
Starting point is 01:13:01 than the killer instinct soundtrack for getting fucking pumped. Right, right. Yeah, that's probably right. Face down in the sweat and then the combo theme starts playing and you just punch the ground and then get back up. And everyone's like, this fucking nerd. What a loser. His headphones aren't plugged in.
Starting point is 01:13:17 Well, actually, like the first like two people I met there, like they saw like my Zelda wallet and shoveled my bag and we're like, hey, cool. Then we started talking. Hey, nerd, did you take your wallet? We're super weird. And I have a feeling, I have a sneaking suspicion that like at least half of the guys here are all hippo bags.
Starting point is 01:13:33 Are you? But they're just hiding their power levels, you know? You see someone density rolling in the air. Hey, what are you doing? It's only a matter of time until you all figure it out. Yeah. And then all just stand there and just go on. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:47 And of course, like listening to all that music and shit made me want to spend more time in KI and pick up like combo properly. So I did. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was always surprised you never really took to them that much. Because my first taste wasn't like a positive one, but it's because I didn't understand the character.
Starting point is 01:14:08 And I went through that guide that I mentioned, which is the Street Fighter Players Guide to Killer Instinct. Oh, that's a really good guide. Well, it's fucking amazing. And I read the combo page on that and went, I get it. And so I played a few matches with him online and I'm like, yeah, no, now I'm in there for sure. So that's awesome.
Starting point is 01:14:26 The other thing I did this week was I checked out two of our local, like, I don't know what you call them type of attractions, but the one is called SOS Labyrinth, where you go into a maze and you have to find like a secret thing and then exit the maze as quickly as possible. And it's pretty much for kids, but like, it's a complex maze. Yeah, you're saying. And I was saying that like, I went in with my friends
Starting point is 01:14:51 and I saw a high score board. I saw leaderboards and I was like, oh, fuck. I'm like, okay, guys. Now I got it. Yeah, I'm going off on my own. We're going to crush these 12-year-olds. You do your thing. And I went in there and I fucking blasted through
Starting point is 01:15:02 the first three checkpoints, no problem. The fucking last one, I couldn't find it until I was getting texts from my friends that were like, dude, are you still in there? What's going on? And I'm retracing my steps like two times, three times, doesn't make any sense. And it turns out that the final checkpoint that I ignored,
Starting point is 01:15:22 which is one of the first ones, is at in the rows of an emergency exit for when there's a fire. The best place. And it's just like, why would you make that part of the game? That's why you make it part of the game. I fucking... Everything's part of the game.
Starting point is 01:15:37 You got played. I fucking lost it. I'm like, that's the worst. No, that's the best. You got played. You remember that fun house I told you where the emergency exits were also trapped in there? And they tell you that this is in case of a fire
Starting point is 01:15:50 or something, you go through these things. They're lies. So I just ignored them. And then it turns out, no. Turns out they meant the fire in your heart. So there was that. It would be really good if you're in there, then a bunch of cops come in and start arresting you.
Starting point is 01:16:02 And you're like, what? Huh? And they're like, oh, we've heard rumors that, we've heard reports of you were terrorizing people. And you're like, no. And this is all the work. And you're supposed to know. You're supposed to run away from them.
Starting point is 01:16:14 That would be a fucking SOS. These handcuffs made out of, like, gummy glasses. Yeah, you're supposed to know. You're supposed to chew them off. So that's one thing in Montreal. And then the other thing I did yesterday is a maze, which is the Montreal room escape society. You finally went and did it.
Starting point is 01:16:34 I went to it. And I did it. And it's fucking cool, man. What did you do? I did. So there's three scenarios. There's prison escape. There's mad scientist.
Starting point is 01:16:42 Mad scientist. And then there's a lost tomb. Lost tomb open now. Lost tomb is open. Yeah. Did you do it? I have been trying to schedule something with my other group of friends for months and nothing ever, ever, ever congeals.
Starting point is 01:16:54 Yeah. Because multiple people are always traveling. So yes, I'm excited to hear that this was good. Prison break is always booked solid. Of course it is. And lost tomb is untouched. So it's pretty much. Of course it is.
Starting point is 01:17:07 Yeah, I'm assuming that's a sign of quality. But I did. No, it's a sign of notability because they had huge year-long breaks between those things opening up. So what this is, is you go in to this. It's like a warehouse. They're like sets. And you go into a set.
Starting point is 01:17:24 Exactly. It's a room. And you get put in here and you're locked in. And you're with your friends. And it's like, all right, go. And you do not have to use your strength. You do not have to climb on anything. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:17:35 But you can. Yeah. And no point. It's like it should be solvable by pretty much anybody. Yeah. There's no like you have to do anything acrobatic or break through anything, you know. And yeah, man, we did this room and it's a fucking awesome. It's 45 minutes, right?
Starting point is 01:17:50 You have 45 minutes. There's a 45 minute game that we played. Did you complete it? Oh, dude, we got so close. Yeah. Right? And then it turns out. Because you have a hard time limit.
Starting point is 01:17:59 Well, you have a hard time limit. And you have one use of a hit button if you need to use it. So you've got to know when and they pretty much tell you they're like, look, if you like that 10 minutes you waste on this one clue, you're not going to get that back. So maybe you should use your hit button there. What if I was you need it? So that's exactly exactly. That's a really solid fact that it's just one is so painful.
Starting point is 01:18:23 And if you are a fan of like 999 or VLR or any of that type of or any of the old Internet escape games that spawned all that. You're absolutely getting that experience out of this, except it's real. At the end is like if you fail, just gas filling in the room. No, but there's sounds and things to indicate that. But yeah, we got like fucking, we got pretty far into the point where we got to the final like terminal as it were, as it would be called. And the fucking difficulty of these like puzzles as it goes on to spite doesn't hit absurd.
Starting point is 01:19:03 It doesn't hit absurd, but it hit like, are you fucking kidding me? Give me any example of difficulty in anything. He walks into a room and there's a guy wearing a backpack like an actor. There is a hose on the floor and there is a pitchfork on the wall and you're just supposed to click. And then the next room had two guys with the backpack. So I guess we're talking like LucasArts level absurdity? Well, one example I guess would be... Well, don't spoil on it.
Starting point is 01:19:33 No, I don't want to. That's the thing. Exactly. I'm just trying. Are we talking Monkey Island or a police quest? It mixes. It starts easy. No, I mean what's the highest level? The highest level I don't want to know is use this...
Starting point is 01:19:50 Like we're talking like Monkey Island level? Shine the light prism in the right place to get the code. Pretty high up there. In terms of light. Yeah, okay. Yeah, that's the high. We're going up there, right? And then so we fucking, we failed it and right with a couple steps towards the end.
Starting point is 01:20:08 And then we got the, and then we went back out and we were the last guys for the day. And so the guy was like, hey, do you want to go back in? Are you serious? And he's like, there's no one after you. Go ahead. We're like, oh fuck, thank you. And then we went back in and then accomplished nothing. Oh God, that's the worst end of the story.
Starting point is 01:20:25 And then came back out going, dude, like what? Like what do you actually, and he's like, all right, come with me. And he actually showed us the ridiculous final steps to solving this thing. And we went, all right, all right, look. Give us another shot. We need to know what is the success rate on this. Yeah. Because it's that bad.
Starting point is 01:20:45 And he goes, we don't specify it, but this is, you pick the hardest room. Okay. The success rate is 5%. That's fine. And I'm like, I don't feel bad anymore. I can't believe you actually went for finding out the solution. Yeah. I can't believe you.
Starting point is 01:21:04 I would have been like, nope, I'm just going to take my failure. No, because we hit a level where it was like, we have the intended solution, but it's not working. Oh no. I hate that level. Yeah. And then when he came in and showed us where we fucked up, it's the, you're like, I am. The dog wasn't wearing the hat.
Starting point is 01:21:22 I'm the biggest scrub in the world. Yeah, okay. We should have put the hat on the dog. But I can't wait to go back. But it was the green hat, not the orange hat. That was the one. And I can't, and I definitely recommend it. I really want to go.
Starting point is 01:21:32 I've wanted to go somewhere. Set it up. Jump on their calendar, hit a reservation button and go. And the cool thing is that I heard that there's a, there's a even bigger warehouse next door. And like they're moving into that next year, so they might even have more scenarios. I like this as a gimmick. And yeah. And it's like, I can't believe this isn't something that exists more in other cities.
Starting point is 01:21:50 I know there's one out there. Other cities have them. But like, like nobody travels from city to city to see them. No, they're not like attraction. Yeah, I guess not. I know, yeah. But it's such, but it's such a, like as in mainstream setup. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:04 Because it doesn't take that much space. You know what these games need? To bring it to the real next level. DLC. Bombs in your stomachs. Danger. Yeah. Bombs in your stomachs.
Starting point is 01:22:14 Now we're not talking lethal danger. But let's say somebody comes out and kicks your ass. If you fuck up. Just a little. Gas fills the room. Non-descript gas. Well, I said that. Electric shocks.
Starting point is 01:22:25 I said on a podcast long ago, there's like haunted house attractions where you, if you want to go to the next level, people will rough you up and tie you up. Yeah. You have to do some stuff. You have to fucking fight. You have to fucking toss in a van to go to the next level. Well, I would say rough off. You have to call your cousin to pick you up behind a barn at the end.
Starting point is 01:22:41 Yeah. Liam, come pick me up. No, but. That sounds awesome. Absolute recommendation there. And then lastly, I watched What We Do In The Shadows. That shit was hilarious. Yes.
Starting point is 01:22:53 I still want to see that. It's written down. Fucking great. Did you see today? Sequel announced. Oh yeah. Same guys. Yes.
Starting point is 01:23:01 It's fucking great, isn't it? Dude, like the fucking stow, stow. This show was not only stolen, it was fucking hoodwinked by the werewolves. The fucking werewolves. And guess what? Do they really kill it? Kill it. The premise of the second movie is maybe going towards the werewolves.
Starting point is 01:23:20 It's the thing to do, you know? It's like when you play the game and then there's one part of that game that's the best part of the game. And you go, man, I hope they make a fucking boat game out of Assassin's Creed. And then they do. That's what it is here. The best. Okay. You get out of this fucking place.
Starting point is 01:23:38 Hey, hey, hey. We're werewolves. Not werewolves. Yeah, yeah. It's like, oh, go fetch a bone or whatever goes to throw the bone. And one of the guys runs to go get it. No, no, don't go. Anyway, if you like.
Starting point is 01:23:51 You guys do sniff your butts. No, we don't sniff our butts. We sniff each other's butts. It's fucking great. Great. So there's that. Caught upon Steven Universe. Shows good.
Starting point is 01:24:01 What it would, not much else to say. So that's solid. It's a good show. Gangsta and Gait continue to be good. Liam, I see now what you're warning me about in Gait. Yeah. Because it feels like it's about to happen. Gait's about to lose it.
Starting point is 01:24:16 And I was going to drop it on the last episode. I was going to drop it until that action scene that was way more impressive than I ever expected. That was amazing. With the two characters side by side. Way more impressive than I ever expected. For me, the cooler part was the support cast that they had. The fucking helicopters. There's a moment where, again, modern day technology fighting old ass orcs and shit.
Starting point is 01:24:46 And bandits. And the chopper support crew rolls in. And they're blasting Flight of the Valkyries as they just mow down everybody. And it's just like, people are just going, what are these flying mobs? Those are better than dragons. It's like, they fell the dragon in the first couple of episodes. And they were like, how'd you do it? The fact that the story just continues to be so one-sided is hilarious and amazing and satisfying.
Starting point is 01:25:18 Because there's no sign of a struggle whatsoever. It's so interesting to see them tell this story where there's no problems. At all. When you see that one scene where Rory's fighting and she's the strongest thing in the world. And then you see the female soldier coming. And just on her training with a gun, like, kick the ass of like 10 soldiers at all. But she ran ahead of her crew, which is not something that trains soldiers. It was dumb, but are you seriously going to tell me that the animation in that bit is better than the nothing that was the helicopters?
Starting point is 01:25:57 No, it was nice. No, it was nice animation. But I just had to go like, this is an anime moment that required someone that's a trained soldier to break kayfabe. Anime. You know, it's like, to get this back to back cool, such a quieter grow moment. You know, that's not what ends up selling me. I have a different kind of interest in the show. You watch anime for not the animation.
Starting point is 01:26:21 Yeah, no, that's not what I'm saying. He watched it for anime. But you know, it's like when you see like military people doing like the hand gestures and marching and storming, you know, doing the whole thing. And it's like then one person's like, no, I'm going to be the correct. It's like, well, you wouldn't be. Everyone engaged in this military with that type of behavior. No, you're in the story. Forget that you're in the anime for two seconds, please.
Starting point is 01:26:46 Oh no. Everybody in the story has busted the military rules. You've discovered the secret rule that all anime characters know that they're in anime. I know that the end of the year, I know that it's a means to an end of look at this cool moment. But it just, it's something that I think of because I go, eh. But anyway, so yeah, they're about to go somewhere that's probably going to be awful. And I can feel it. You can see it come like, it's not the end of the world now.
Starting point is 01:27:15 You can see it from here. I'm going to peek through my fingers. Yeah, exactly. To keep watching. But I might have to skip a couple episodes until it gets back on track. If it, I hear it doesn't. Shut up. I hear it doesn't get back on track.
Starting point is 01:27:28 Fuck off, man. No, I hear they do the thing that you're expecting, but it doesn't fix it. And then it never... I hear it just, it just goes off the rails and never comes back. Like it goes back towards rails that look the same, but it never gets back on the rails I hear. Because the intro... I haven't actually read ahead or anything. What's in the basement, Naruto?
Starting point is 01:27:51 Oh, no. All right. Yeah. God damn it. All right. Let's move on then. Okay. Not super exciting week.
Starting point is 01:28:00 I played Rise and Thunder. I played Everybody Goes to the Rapture. Everybody's gone to the Rapture. Oh, is that... Yeah, okay. Because they're already... Yeah, they're already gone. I had one of my hard drives just die on me.
Starting point is 01:28:11 Which was super exciting. Yeah, I lost data too, so I hear that. Luckily, it's not one of the ones I keep any data on. It's my games drive, which only has programs on it. No save files, no work files. You're really like pushing the idea that there was nothing on there. Are you sure you weren't trying to hide something on there? Was that your horse porn.com full site backup?
Starting point is 01:28:36 No, no, that's where I kept my games. Yeah. My Steam library. All recoverable. My work drive is fine. My backup drives are fine and my SSD is fine. So then I had a Seagate. I look it up.
Starting point is 01:28:49 It's like, wow. So it turns out this level of size of Seagate drives has like a 40% fail rate within three years. Wow, it's the choices. And all of these drives were bought simultaneously with this computer two and a half years ago. So I... Were they the ones on Sailor Future Shout? No, they came from NCAX when I bought them. Because they were a good option.
Starting point is 01:29:12 I figured they were good. I didn't know that Seagate was bad. Because this research came out like six months ago. So I've now replaced every single drive in my computer with Western Digital Drives. Trying to go join Team WD. Yeah. Which are apparently super great. And I have the backup drives coming tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:29:29 And I decided, fuck it. I'm sick of having a tiny baby SSD that I can't run anything on. So I'm getting like a 500 gig SSD. That's coming. It's actually pretty cheap. Is it really? Yeah, it's only $230. And keep in mind that your arcade views about what you can and can't do with it no longer exist.
Starting point is 01:29:46 Yeah, because now I can do... I can put my Witcher on it. It doesn't care if you write to it. Yeah, basically. And as of Witcher, Witcher is the longest game. Witcher is the most absurdly long game ever. But it's too short though. Okay, so I'm about 70 hours into the Witcher.
Starting point is 01:30:03 And I finished a quest at 65 hours called Get Jr. Which is the conclusion of what feels to be the second act of the game's story on the first map. Where I explored the whole map and I finished it. And I'm way over leveled because I'm trying to do all the quests. And I'm so over leveled that all the story quests are gray and give me nothing. So I hit up on Twitter. I said, so I beat Get Jr. And that's awesome.
Starting point is 01:30:29 And I'm loving the game so much. And I played it for like 65 hours. Why does it feel like I'm not even halfway done? And the response I got back... Of course you're not. Was because I'm not a third done. And then I looked it up a little deeper. Like if I explored everything on the map like I had, then yes I am halfway done.
Starting point is 01:30:46 Because there's that second map. How? The one that I got me is somebody said, wait until you get to act two. And my response was, this game has acts? Right? Imagine if you got to fucking march in Persona 4 and went home and the text act two came up. Would you not lose your shit? It's like Okami, but longer.
Starting point is 01:31:19 Yes. It is the Okami feeling on a full order of magnitude increase with a sustained quality level that I cannot believe. You cannot deny. It is absurd. It is like, I can easily see people like burning the fuck out on this. Super early. Like I could see the level structure.
Starting point is 01:31:45 It seems to be made that if you wanted to, all you would have to do is just do the main plot. I was going to say, can you be lying to the story? There are enough, if you include the character side quests, which are, in another game would be your party, but instead they're just your close friends or confidants or characters. If you were to just do the story and just act, you would be able to be lying it from what I can see. Is the how long to be still blank? You know what I mean? That's not what I mean.
Starting point is 01:32:18 But then that game, if I'm only a third through it, that game would still be 60 hours. Okay, I just keyed in how long to beat and the first Google suggestion was Witcher 3. Yep. That's correct. So let's fucking look at a 42 and a half hour main story. Wow Pat, you suck at this game. Do I have to explore every fucking point on the map on that first map? No, plus X was 961 and a half hours.
Starting point is 01:32:44 Completionist, 161.5 hours. So you're less than halfway there. Yeah, because I'm doing it completionist, I'm going to do everything. So that game added a new game plus feature last night. Yeah, for crazy people. What do you do in 161 hours? Well, Woolly, your persona for time was absurd, right? You live over a week of your life.
Starting point is 01:33:10 Your persona for time was absurd, right? It was like 100, 200? No, it wasn't 200. Okay, it was like 150. It was 120 something. Okay, imagine instead of every single day of persona for, instead of being like, oh, this day is the thing is open, this day is that. It is a unique voice acted and cut scene side quest.
Starting point is 01:33:31 Every single baby side quest in this game is like an hour long. And there's hundreds of them and exploring the map takes forever because it's super huge. And every, you know, in these open world games, there's always like point on the map where it's like, it's a hidden treasure, right? And you go up to it and you look up the hidden treasure. Every single one of those has a body or some form of something that has a note or log or something that explains how this treasure got to the bottom of the lake or how this guy got run off the road.
Starting point is 01:34:07 I think you just scared me away from this forever. Dude. Honestly, I don't recommend it to you. I played it for 10 hours and I didn't like the game at all. It's like the gameplay mechanics are so average that I can't put up with it. I disagree. No, the writing is phenomenal and the world's amazing and bright and I like it. The gameplay mechanics are just like really like the gameplay.
Starting point is 01:34:28 It feels like just a traditional WRPG with nothing really special going on in the gameplay. Except for all the potion stuff and all the alchemy stuff. But it's use items, like use items. But that's the prep time that happened. I bought it. That's the process to creating use items. You don't like it. I'm not going to fight you on a deck because it's not the best gameplay in the world,
Starting point is 01:34:52 but I really like the gameplay. No, for sure. I've bought it, but I've never booted it up once. I don't know if I ever will at this point. Also considering what you just said. Yeah, well that time sink. That's like a brawl thing, I guess, where it's just like if you are into this, you have infinite games. Yes, and that's awesome, for sure, exactly.
Starting point is 01:35:08 So, like, I was like, okay, wait, what? I need some metric to determine. So what level are people beating the game at? 37. Then why are there level 41 armors in the game? And it's a game that all your XP is from SideQuest. Right. Oh, because they intended you to hit New Game Plus, or that super high level thing is only
Starting point is 01:35:31 for the crazies that are going to farm monsters for shit XP, or for the expansion that are coming. Remember, this game has had expansions coming in 100 days. Yes. So they said in the pre-release that this game, if you wanted to do absolutely everything, would take about 200 hours. That seemed to be on the money, right? Yeah. So, the expansions that they've said is like each of them is dozens of hours.
Starting point is 01:35:59 So, by the time the complete version of this game, like, it's the forever game. It's going to have to be titled Game of the Decade Edition, because it takes you that long. It's crazy. Harley Quinn mission, this is not it. And for a lot of people, like for Matt, is the kind of person that what I'm saying right now will probably make him never play the game ever. Well, I mean, 42 for a main quest is not ridiculous, but I still don't see myself having time this year. Well, the thing that's happened with this is...
Starting point is 01:36:31 I played 20 hours of Witcher 2, and I just stopped, and for no reason. I was just stopped because I knew that I'm never going to beat this, not because it was bad. And you were not far from the end if you played 20 of Witcher 2. Really? And you know what's not a good feeling? It's not a good feeling when you're clearly, you feel the end game motions are happening, and you're like, okay, I just want to get there. But you're not there.
Starting point is 01:36:54 And you're right, you're nowhere near as far as you feel like you're getting there. So, I have been explicitly told that this game has a moment in which you're like, I'm going to do it. I'm going to finish the quest. I'm going to do it. I did it. The game didn't end. And so you expect like, oh, there's going to be an ending sequence, right?
Starting point is 01:37:13 No, here comes the next act of the game. Here comes the next... Is that after the second actor? Yeah, here comes the third round. Here's the 30 hour denouement, which is where the climax is actually hiding. You already killed the wild hunt. Go do these guys now. Something like that.
Starting point is 01:37:31 He killed the wild hunt. And it's the point where I have been like, in looking up potion ingredients and stuff like that, and like, where do I get this? And people talking on Twitter, I've gotten a shit ton of stuff spoiled for me on this game. Stuff that you can't avoid. Like, what the third act breakpoint is. Because it's the blank at blank. And I go, I can't even go to that location.
Starting point is 01:37:56 So, oh, that must be later. But even with all of the stuff that has spoiled me, another game would be most of the plot. I feel like I'm still totally clean in this. And you wanted a single player MMO? It was a massively single player RPG. It was prepared. And like, to what you say about Time Mat,
Starting point is 01:38:19 like, I'm playing it maybe four or five hours a day, and I've been doing that for weeks now. And like, I'm going to continue. There's nothing better than having more to do in a game that you like. That I'm 100% into. It's crazy. No, I'm glad you like it. Because like I said, there's nothing better than that.
Starting point is 01:38:40 And like Liam, like, you may not like the gameplay, but the writing is like... The writing is fantastic. It's astonishing. And I keep finishing quests, and I realize by the end of the quest, it's like, oh, I could have done all of this in a completely fucked up reverse order.
Starting point is 01:38:57 Because you get to see, the seams aren't perfect. Right? So, you know, the end of a quest conversation where they go, hey, why don't you do this? Why don't you go talk to so-and-so? I get to see where it's like, oh, I didn't have to solve this heist mystery until after this.
Starting point is 01:39:13 I could have done that. But I did it before. So instead, we're not even going to talk about the heist. Oh, it's like, it's the fucking... And the card game's great. Like, the card game... The card game becomes very... It acts as the triple triad of this game.
Starting point is 01:39:27 Well, you gotta fucking don't even ship it if your card game's not amazing. Well, the card game's really good. It becomes very unbalanced if you know what you're doing. Like, every single player card game. But it's super, super good. And attached to that are large-scale quests that go like, hey, man,
Starting point is 01:39:43 people are getting murdered over these cards. You want to search for these fucking... You gotta win the Gwent cards. And you get the cards and you go, oh, I don't want to complete these quests. These cards are sick! Yeah. Oh!
Starting point is 01:39:54 And they, like, this is also, like, very much like the trilogy ender in which there are multiple characters that show up in which I was sure they were dead. I, like... Yeah. That, like, it, like... It's the MGS4.
Starting point is 01:40:08 Well, no. Because if you had played the MOBA, you would know they were alive. Well, no. It's because they're, like, a war happened. And people, these characters are, like, in that army. And that army got blown to bits. So you assume that they died,
Starting point is 01:40:21 because you don't see them anywhere. Like, no, they're over there. Just doing just fine. They made it and they waved over to you. And then you find, there's a moment in this game where there's a character from Witcher 1, which was really, really interesting. And I was really excited to...
Starting point is 01:40:32 Maybe I'll see that character. There's no reason. It's a totally different country. But maybe he'll be there. And you talk to somebody and he's like, Oh, I got this from that guy. And you go, That guy's in town?
Starting point is 01:40:40 That's awesome. Can I go... Go ahead and hang out with him? It's like you're gonna have trouble doing that. Why? They burned him. Oh. You can still talk to him.
Starting point is 01:40:49 Well, no. They burned him at the stage. Was he okay? Did he get better? It's like, Well, what happened? It's like, well... Well, he's dead.
Starting point is 01:40:57 But when he died, the explosion went off. The air wrote, Like, the king sucks dicks in the sky. And you're like, Oh, well... Yeah, yeah. That would be like him.
Starting point is 01:41:07 That's how I want to go out. It's dude. It's... Fuck, it's the best. It's the best. It's the best. It's the best. One more time.
Starting point is 01:41:15 It's the best. Alright. That's enough. So, Liam, do you want to introduce the fantasy star news? So, yeah. PSO2 is coming to the PS4 as a lot of people predicted.
Starting point is 01:41:29 That's great. In 2016. Yeah, exactly. It's coming to the West in the future. That is not part of that announcement. Liam, the announcement states it's coming out in Japan for the PS4. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:41:42 If ever there was going to be a Western version, it would be that. Yeah, no. I mean, everyone... Well, apart from the English version, everyone was kind of like, Yeah, it's obviously going to move to PS4. That only makes sense.
Starting point is 01:41:52 Yeah, absolutely. Like, moving forward. But even if this did come alongside where the Western release, it's way too late for that bet. Oh, no. I mean, I'll keep doubling up. You want to keep doubling up on the never bet? Okay.
Starting point is 01:42:05 Never has to pay you. Well, we'll see in four months. It's going to hit console prices at a point. It's going to hit a point where you just have to buy a console. Yeah, it's going to hit a point where it's like, yeah, well, I'm cashing in the bet and I now no longer have to pay Liam ever.
Starting point is 01:42:20 Yeah, where it goes by mortgage. If it goes for a long and a period of time, I've like, I don't know, like ever since at the beginning, I've been expecting it to go on for a long time, but I've also never actually wanted money out of it.
Starting point is 01:42:33 Liam is talking to his daughter. No, the money is, the money is like trivial. Yeah, and I don't actually care about the money. No, me neither. When it comes down to it, you have to keep the bet going.
Starting point is 01:42:42 Yeah, you know, when it comes down to it, Grandpa Pat is going to come around to collect any day now. When it comes down to it, I'll still like, gladly pay you, and I'll still like,
Starting point is 01:42:52 gladly take the money, but that's not really, the money is just the exclamation point on the Allen Millers and the Boivins have been fighting for a millennia. Yeah, two houses. They don't know why.
Starting point is 01:43:03 Yeah, your ancestors are excavating the road. This is where you, your parents fuck up and they throw you in jail. In what? Isn't it Dark Knight Rises or some other fiction,
Starting point is 01:43:14 like some movie we watched, where if you fuck up, you can go in jail. Bane's story, The Sins of the Father. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:23 So, Bane went to jail. Liam's son will be inherent this bet. Is this him? And he can, he can work on fucking localizing it himself and putting it out in the West somehow. That would care for it.
Starting point is 01:43:34 While simultaneously trying to find the treasure underneath the Eiffel Tower from fucking trials. I already got it. Oh, you got it. Wow, your kids are great. You are,
Starting point is 01:43:47 you are the Mufasa in this timeline. Yeah, exactly. Of the Lion Guard. Um, some cool ass shit. Some cool,
Starting point is 01:43:55 it is a cool ass shit right there. Yeah, cool ass shit over there. Uh, he was like, hello, hello, I'm here in Brooklyn.
Starting point is 01:44:03 Okay, I don't know if you put it on there, but we forgot to talk about it last week. We got to talk about Red Ash. Well, no, because there's a news update. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:44:11 I know. Yeah, okay. But that's like, if he joins another video game, yeah, and he, Yeah,
Starting point is 01:44:20 that's a good one. is Guillermo del Toro. Yeah, those are his words. I can't believe how sad this article is. Dude, he's right. He's so
Starting point is 01:44:28 justified. Okay, he's wrong, but he's justified. Who's going to argue with him? I bet you there's a certain timeframe, like maybe last gen, maybe towards the end of PS2 GameCube Xbox,
Starting point is 01:44:39 where no publisher would be, what every publisher wanted, filmmakers in there. Remember Steven Spielberg, he was going to make 13 games for EA, and if you brought it back to there, I don't think he would have been treated this way. Between this latest story
Starting point is 01:44:53 and the greasy heart quote, del Toro is just the most sympathetic motherfucker that's just like, you're a talented dude. I, it's so specifically, what he said is that
Starting point is 01:45:04 I tried to make a game with THQ, THQ goes bankrupt. Here, let me give you the quote. I try, yeah, I've proven to be the albatross of video games.
Starting point is 01:45:13 Uh, I've decided in order to not destroy anyone else's life, I will never again get involved with video games. Otherwise, I'll join someone and his house will explode or something. I went to the side of Kojima because he's a master
Starting point is 01:45:25 and I can gladly say that we're friends, and I love his work and will continue learning from him as a friend, but if I join another video game, World War III will start. Yeah, yeah. See, it's a bummer because I feel like it's a stupid statement
Starting point is 01:45:37 and it's completely unjustified. I get where he's coming from, there's a phrase for this. But like, man, come on. There's a phrase for this and it's called magical thinking. Yeah. It's where you attribute, like,
Starting point is 01:45:48 events that are clearly out of your control to somehow being magic. I mean, like, he's obviously joking. I mean, like, emotional reasoning, more than anything, I think. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 01:45:58 But yeah, like, he's obviously joking, but I really do hope he comes back to try something. See what this is? It's a fucking work. It's just, I wish.
Starting point is 01:46:06 Yeah, because it's just like, because every time it's like, this time it's the perfect setup. No, this is literally the last setup was the perfect setup. Anyone in his position would be like, well, this is, there's no way he can fail. This is the golden boy of this company.
Starting point is 01:46:20 Oh wait, he's not anymore and I can't control that. See that? If I'm in photo, we posted of him being trapped in a conference room. Yeah, I know. The unspoken,
Starting point is 01:46:30 sad, the unspoken, like, words here are like, also, like, I like video games, but this is killing me. Yeah, no. Well, no, exactly. That's what I was saying.
Starting point is 01:46:40 Like, he's personally justified, but like, that statement's dumb. Well, he's a dramatic guy. I know, I know. He makes movies. Like, he gets his movies greenlit far easier, and even that's hard.
Starting point is 01:46:51 And those are the movies he's making now? Which one? I forget what it's called. The one that's coming out soon? Yes, it's coming out soon. It's coming out soon. Yes, it's coming out soon. Yes, it's coming out soon.
Starting point is 01:47:00 Yes, it's coming out soon. Yes, it's coming out soon. Yes, it's coming out soon. Yes, it's coming out soon. Thank you. I'm from the director of Pen's Labyrinth, and I was like, do you mean Guillermo del Toro? And I just squint and look at the movie credits
Starting point is 01:47:12 on the side of the ad thing to see that, yes, it was Guillermo del Toro. Oh my God, it's happening to him too. He even infected him with the name. Fucking write his name on the thing. No, Guillermo del Toro. That's super standard. I don't like that.
Starting point is 01:47:25 Sure, but that's not... Is that a standard? Yes, it is. It's a standard. I really don't like that. And they'll purposely jump over shit that the person has made. And they'll say M. Night Shyamalan
Starting point is 01:47:36 from the director of... Sixth Sense and Science. Sixth Sense and Science. They'll never mention it. They'll do that in any industry. Yeah, like Star Fox Zero is not brought to you by the guy who made Wii Music. If you're just a producer or something,
Starting point is 01:47:48 they'll say from the people that brought you this. And when there's no one attributed that has any talent, they'll say from the producers. No, the worst is... Dude, there's a short list of directors whose names actually mean something to the general public. No, definitely not.
Starting point is 01:48:02 Yeah, and one of those is Quentin Tarantino where you get the opposite of this problem where it's Quentin Tarantino presents a movie that he did not even watch. Yeah, which is why his actual... He just marks out for it. Which is why his actual movies say Quentin Tarantino's eighth film.
Starting point is 01:48:17 Oh, no. Yeah. What is it? The Hathes? The Hathes Play. The trailer for that just came out, too. Yeah, looks good. It's an apology movie to Sam Jackson who wanted to be Django.
Starting point is 01:48:27 Looks great. Looks great. Well, Smith was supposed to be Django. Well, Smith's like, nah. No, I mean, like, in an interview where he was talking about how he played Stephen in Django Unchained, he's like, man, fuck, 20 years ago,
Starting point is 01:48:41 I could have been Django. Now I gotta be a fucking corrupt, fucking slave in this bullshit. All right, look, so the reason why Red Ash didn't come up last is because I'm tired of talking about it. Yeah, well, guess what? I'm talking about it.
Starting point is 01:48:52 There's some more news. There's more. There's always more. So what we have is an update to the story in which the Red Ash anime is... By Studio 4C. By Studio 4C, they're continuing the Kickstarter on their website. Basically, the anime was successful
Starting point is 01:49:09 in its funding, but it was only enough to make a 12-minute short, and that was the base goal before any of the stretch goals to get to, like, a theoretical feature can't work there. So it made enough for that 12 minutes, and so they said they're going to continue
Starting point is 01:49:24 the campaign so you can keep donating on their website for, like, I guess, campaign 2B, in a way, and it is to get it to, I guess, a further half an hour or so. So what I'm kind of seeing here between... It just kind of feels like between this and sort of the fuse funding thing is, like,
Starting point is 01:49:43 these Kickstarter's are not allowed to, like, not be what the team wants them to be. Like, they're sort of like the modest goal. There's the actual goal they have in mind, and then there's the amazing dream, like, way beyond any of the dreams. And it feels like the short goal... It's possible.
Starting point is 01:50:04 But it feels like the short goal that is below the intended one is one that, with all of these projects, they're not allowing to happen, you know? These projects specifically. Like, a lot of Kickstarters do this, like, all, like, this has been, like, the most obvious of them all.
Starting point is 01:50:24 Like, come on. Stop. Stop. And yes, I am aware that this is a Studio 4C joint in itself, and that Studio 4C does and has a history of doing, not Kickstarter, because it's on their own website, and they did that for Little Witch Academia, I believe, as well.
Starting point is 01:50:41 But it's like... Studio 4C is a goddamn talented studio. They are. Like, it hurts if the negativity that's surrounding the Red Ash story... I think negativity is light. I think the sentiment towards Red Ash, which has baffled me since day one,
Starting point is 01:51:00 is militant hatred. Well, it's because no one wants it that bad. But, like, it kind of baffles me that people are so hateful on this, because people don't like how Mighty No. 9 is turning out. Because it's a fundamental misreading of the climate at the time.
Starting point is 01:51:14 I think it's a misreading of the climate. No, for sure. For sure. But what I'm talking about is that it's just timing. It just... No, for sure. The timing of this is so bad that they'll never recover from the damage.
Starting point is 01:51:25 And the stuff with the Mighty No. 9 delay is, like, assault the moon. No, there's no delay. Oh, wait, there's totally a giant delay. So we didn't talk about that. And all stories become related in the giant moon, the guy, because it all becomes one giant title.
Starting point is 01:51:41 No, but it's just you go on any given forum, people are, like, lambasting. Well, that's the nature of the internet. And then you ask them why, and then they back down, and they're like, oh, well, no, I just kind of don't care. So I was talking to my girlfriend about the whole story, and, like, you know...
Starting point is 01:51:54 Well, the game also looks terrible at this point. It was just... The browser... People played the browser game and said this is terrible. I mean, it's not representative of the final product at all. Sure, they should not have put it out, because it did damage.
Starting point is 01:52:05 Sure. The one thing... That's not negativity from nowhere. The one thing I won't fight is that the campaign was very poorly run. It was. The campaign was very poorly run, and that's, like, totally a fact.
Starting point is 01:52:17 And anyone who didn't enjoy the Money Number 9 experience is justified in saying, I don't want to come back in, but I don't understand when people have vitriol towards non-existent games, because, like, all you're saying is, I don't want this game to exist. No, here, Liam, I will explain it to you very simply,
Starting point is 01:52:35 because people are interpreting this series of events as Inafune asks for money, and I go, You know what? I like Mega Man, and I like you Inafune. I'll give you money for Money Number 9. Right? You with me so far? Yeah, I'm with you,
Starting point is 01:52:51 but I don't think I'm interpreting it. And then, and then... You say, let me explain it. Then a little while later, Inafune asks me for money again, and again, and again, and then right before... Okay, but take away three of those agains. He only did it twice now.
Starting point is 01:53:04 Money Number 9. Red Ash. Red Ash. Red Ash anime. No, no, no, no, no, no. Money Number 9 and Red Ash. The Red Ash anime is a side project. He must have final say on whether they...
Starting point is 01:53:14 Those are the only... He's nuts. Your timing has no involvement whatsoever in the animated properties resulting from these. There was no, there was no fan funding for the Money Number 9 show. That never happened. Okay.
Starting point is 01:53:26 That never happened. Then I'm... It was really those two games and the side project anime for Red Ash. Then, then I will add that the Money Number 9 delay is absurd, and the timing couldn't have been worse, and the messaging was double worse. It is, but this...
Starting point is 01:53:41 There's no delay. Whoops, there's a delay. As soon as Red Ash's Kickstarter goal is clear, with the explanation being, sorry guys, we were so busy, we couldn't tell you. It is, but the hate was before that even happened. The hate was there from day one. Also, a lot of it is Money Number 9.
Starting point is 01:53:58 Every time I see it, it doesn't look good. Somewhere in a parallel universe, Money Number 9 comes out, fucking does Shovel Knight gangbusters. Everyone goes, this was good ass shit. And then a couple months later, they go, and now it's time for Mega Man Legends.
Starting point is 01:54:11 And everyone goes, fuck yeah. Sure. And they rip their wallets out, and throw them violently because they're like, fuck yeah, Mega Man. We're doing Mega Man without Mega Man. Saving him. Right?
Starting point is 01:54:21 And that sense of it is so like, God, I wish I lived in that world. Because I fucking love Mega Man Legends. You try to crush like six years of everything into like two. And now here's the other thing, right? And this actually segues into our, there's some Kickstarter fucking lists
Starting point is 01:54:40 to go down here. Oh really? A bunch of shit's going on right now. This month is pretty busy. So we don't bring it up every podcast, but every once in a while, we'll do the roundup, and once again, you don't back them all.
Starting point is 01:54:51 Okay, if we're moving on, I just want to say, I just think the level of hate is unjustified. That's the internet. No, but, That's a true statement. That's a true statement. That's a true statement.
Starting point is 01:55:00 That's the same thing with when the Uia came out, and it's like, the Uia did literally nothing wrong, except for those few devs at the end. That's people with my emotional range with less reasonability. Exactly. And it's ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:55:14 And like, it just creates a huge snowball effect, and there's nothing you can do to fight it. Well, they should. And you end up with people running around screaming Junifune and implying 3.3 million dollars. And it's like, God, fuck off. I don't know what that is.
Starting point is 01:55:26 Holy shit. So here, yeah, I don't get that. What does that mean? That's people accusing Junifune of being a Jew. Oh, I thought you'd be like, Junifune. Yeah, exactly. Okay.
Starting point is 01:55:37 And it's like, Yeah, that's always a goal that should be crossed. No, exactly. The level of militant hate is the nature of Photoshop's. Of course. Of course.
Starting point is 01:55:47 It's the nature of going to the public. So I look back at that original piece of concept art that they had. For sure. Game doesn't look like that. No, of course. And I really wish it did. And they never said it would.
Starting point is 01:55:59 They said it's a target. So here's another angle. Right? Like, if everything remained the same as it did. Right? But there's a new Kickstarter that is going on right now. And it's called Poi.
Starting point is 01:56:10 Have you seen it? No. Poi. Yeah, it just went out today. I will look at it as you continue to describe it. It is a, you know, you're my Super Mario 64, Banjo, all that stuff.
Starting point is 01:56:20 Yeah, I saw it. That looks sharp. Just fucking joy. Joyful adventure. It just looks fun. It looks like all the stuff that we've been revisiting recently. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:31 And I can't wait. Right? I'm super excited. It looks great. And it's co-op and everything. And like the, there's more than enough footage. Successfully raised.
Starting point is 01:56:39 Of course. Right? If you go watch the footage for this, you just see a bunch of trailers for like, here's our like sliding down the mountain level. Here's our time trial. Here's our co-op mission. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:48 And it's just a ton of really fun gameplay where you're like, of course this is going to be like good. Right? If with all the bad timing and everything else, the Mighty number nine, I'm sorry,
Starting point is 01:56:58 the Red Ash video showed you some gameplay that was undeniably awesome. Yeah. That could have even still saved it. No, for sure. Totally. And again, I think,
Starting point is 01:57:09 I think the campaign was run terribly. I think the campaign was horrible. That one piece of footage that I saw looked like a fucking joy. And it makes me, it was really bad. And so it brings to light this other element where it's like,
Starting point is 01:57:22 even when the campaign is like, poorly timed and they're doing all kinds of things and the numbers don't look right out, no matter what, all this stuff goes around it. If you click that play button and you just see something
Starting point is 01:57:31 and you go, God damn it, that looks good. Ghost Song had that, for example. It fucking works. And you go, all right, that looks like a fucking good game.
Starting point is 01:57:39 Yeah, I know, of course. And this didn't have that side to it, which would have been the saving grace. No, for sure. With that being said, I'm just coming from a perspective where it's like, I hate how,
Starting point is 01:57:49 like, Inafune is now a punchline. And I'm not, like, I have no affinity for him. I don't even really like the Mega Man games that much. Like a battle network and soul sacrifice. I think of my favorite things that he did.
Starting point is 01:58:00 And, like, it's just like, why are people so up in arms? There are people who have done way worse than that. They're money. Their money is not. Because Mega Man is gone.
Starting point is 01:58:10 No, no, later. Because Mega Man is second only to Sonic and Mario. Yeah, for sure. Well, wait, wait, wait. Me and people who, who backed the Money Number 9 Kickstarter,
Starting point is 01:58:20 and people who backed the Red Ash Kickstarter... ...we've never got charged. There was no charge on the Red Ash? No, it didn't succeed. No, it didn't succeed. Oh, it didn't succeed? Yeah, it failed. Fuse funded it,
Starting point is 01:58:32 and the money that was put in was put towards bonus. So then... They said it was because they still have to hit the 800,000 to take the money. So those people did get charged? No, they didn't.
Starting point is 01:58:41 No. No. There was no charge. Fuse's money did not go into the Kickstarter pool. Okay. It stayed separate. They still,
Starting point is 01:58:49 you can't change a Kickstarter's goals once it's started. So they still had to hit 800 to withdraw any $1. Which they did it. The goal of that 800 had been shifted to the stretch goals above 800.
Starting point is 01:58:58 What did go through was the enemy. The fact that I usually follow this stuff pretty well, the fact that I have gotten so much of this wrong is infuriating. That's how much garbage
Starting point is 01:59:12 is flying around, and that's why I'm frustrated because there's so much misinformation and there's so much trash. And like, you didn't commit a crime. Yeah, the negative
Starting point is 01:59:21 is a little low. Yeah. But the situation is not at all. No, no. That's mighty number that I just never come in out.
Starting point is 01:59:29 And on a personal level, people who don't want to back because they didn't enjoy their experience of mighty number nine, that's totally justified. And I'm not fighting that. I'm just like, when you look at the
Starting point is 01:59:38 greater situation, I think there doesn't even have to be a greater situation. Like, you know, they didn't ship a game and sell it, and it doesn't work on
Starting point is 01:59:47 one platform entirely, and they pull it back off Steam because it doesn't work. Like, they didn't ask for anyone's money. They didn't do a movie. Yeah, but at the same time,
Starting point is 01:59:56 a lot of the extra bad will comes from the explanation of the delay from mighty number nine being weird and absurd. I'm so fucking tired of talking about this game. It's like,
Starting point is 02:00:06 what do you want? It's like, you're delaying it for three or four months for a bug in a tertiary mode. Yo, how hard is it
Starting point is 02:00:14 to take that long? Because you have to ship the whole thing at once. He got me one. Like, you can't just ship hard today. You can't take four months to fix multiplayer bugs.
Starting point is 02:00:23 Sometimes it does. Me and William try to segue into something else. Can I get a yarn Yoshi? Is it hard to get a yarn Yoshi right now? I didn't. How much money do you want to spend on that? I didn't even know
Starting point is 02:00:33 that the game had multiplayer. It does, yeah. It was one of the goals. Ship it later. Ship it later. Ship it later is not a good answer. That's all I did.
Starting point is 02:00:42 It takes a lot more work. You're seeing a... No, I'm seeing a gibberish number, so I'm assuming that's some stupid, like, to telephone. Hey, you won a free ticket at the Holiday Inn
Starting point is 02:00:51 in your city. Really? Did you do something? Did you do a crime? Dude, I had a lady call me this morning at 9 a.m. woke me up,
Starting point is 02:01:01 and she says, hey, I have those things for you to print out. I'm from the CLSC. And I go, what? Because I went to the doctor recently,
Starting point is 02:01:09 and I'm like, you're now deported. What? I'm like, yeah, I want those printouts. Like, wait, you want them? I want them on my desk, Pat.
Starting point is 02:01:17 And she's like, what? I'm just like, I'm calling the CLSC. Wait, you're calling the CLSC? I'm like, I'm clearly not understanding
Starting point is 02:01:26 this right now. You're waking up. I'm sorry. Did you fight a dead body? I'm sorry. By the way, the CLSC is like a clinic, a governor clinic.
Starting point is 02:01:34 And I go, I'm sorry, Miss. I just woke up. What do I need to print out for the CLSC? She goes, oh, God, I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 02:01:43 I'm like, what? Why? So I was trying to call the CLSC results, and I finally screwed up. And I'm like, and I'm still,
Starting point is 02:01:51 I'm still so tired. Yeah. That I go, what? So you're from the CLSC. Jesus Christ. And then she's like, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 02:02:00 Goodbye. And I'm like, and then she goes, also you need to give me a million dollars before I fade away. Okay. So that came in
Starting point is 02:02:08 from an unknown number, which is why it got me so bad. Half an hour later, I get another unknown number call, and it's actually the CLSC. Which causes me to become re-confused as to what the early conversation was.
Starting point is 02:02:22 Yeah. We're going to need to evacuate Montreal immediately. I don't know when it's going airborne, but what? Do you have a report on that? Hello?
Starting point is 02:02:31 Dude, I was so confused. I couldn't handle it. It was so bad. Well, you're talking about mybos earlier. What about mybos?
Starting point is 02:02:39 No, I just want a yarn Yoshi. What I really want to talk about is Shatter on Hong Kong. You're not getting one for $15. Shatter on Hong Kong. Shatter on Hong Kong.
Starting point is 02:02:47 $1.2 million. Yeah. Closed out at that. $150 million, that is mine. $150 million of that is yours? No, no,
Starting point is 02:02:56 I got comes with a fancy messenger bag, and I wanted it. Yeah, so they blew past their goal. Yeah. And their goal was very specific and not the usual.
Starting point is 02:03:07 It was a pure stretch goal kickstarter. Like they said, we already got somebody to pay for this. Yeah. So $100 for $100k.
Starting point is 02:03:17 You guys want us to add more shit? Here's the more shit we would add if we got more money. But we need a bit more money, yeah. And people say, like, because the goal was really low,
Starting point is 02:03:25 it was only $100k. Well, that's the nature of the thing. We want to add this character, and if you guys really like it, we'll add these extra characters. Right.
Starting point is 02:03:33 And, yeah, I hit $1.5 million. That's cool. Because Dragonfall was fucking amazing. No, that's great.
Starting point is 02:03:41 So we got that one going. We got 2015. Yeah. Supposedly. Really? Wow. It will not hit mid-2015
Starting point is 02:03:49 because that was two months ago. That sounds officially it. It's one of those things where if the kickstarter hits every single stretch goal, they come out and go, listen, guys.
Starting point is 02:03:57 Yeah. That date was for the no stretch goal version. Yeah. So that's probably going to be next year. So we got that.
Starting point is 02:04:05 We got a Grip. Yeah, I saw this. That RC looking racer type car game where it's like a typical
Starting point is 02:04:13 Oh, yeah, remember those old RC guys? Like those old RC guys? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:21 But in this, your head difference is like the vortex. Yeah. But in this, like your RC car. Roommate distance
Starting point is 02:04:29 and if you hit, because you're in like half pipes and stuff, if you hit the ceiling, you're fucking dead. Yeah. Or you'll crash,
Starting point is 02:04:37 whatever. And in this, you just anti-grab attached to everything. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. From the same guy
Starting point is 02:04:45 earlier with that one. Now, didn't we see this on stage at some point or somewhere? Like, I saw the footage of this before this Kickstarter.
Starting point is 02:04:53 It looks really sharp. Yeah. Um, so that's going, that's currently That's like P for PS4 and PC I think.
Starting point is 02:05:01 657K. It's a little high. Um, but they have time. 657 is a weird number. Uh, it's a very specific number,
Starting point is 02:05:09 which I guess it uses on real four, I think. It looks very nice. Uh, we've got from the It's not a great name though.
Starting point is 02:05:17 We've got from the Underground to the Stars, a shout out to our friend, Richie Branson, who's doing a, you know, he wants to do a
Starting point is 02:05:25 Gurren Lagan themed album. Uh, and that motherfucker He could do that. He could do that. PS at fucking rap and hip-hop.
Starting point is 02:05:33 How much is he looking for? Work themed stuff. So he's looking for 7K. I want to And right now he's at 4.8. I want to point out that it's gonna make I think that's good.
Starting point is 02:05:41 People kept, I kept seeing, yo, there's a Richie Branson Kickstarter over and over and over and over
Starting point is 02:05:49 and since I don't particularly care that much about Richie Branson, I didn't click it. Why did no one anywhere I'm talking to everyone listening to this
Starting point is 02:05:57 that can contact me on Twitter. Tell me what that album was supposed to be. Cause that name should have been enough. How does,
Starting point is 02:06:05 I don't know how that fact was missed, but that part not get to me. That's the important part. I need to go home. Well the other important
Starting point is 02:06:13 part is the fact that it's Richie fucking Branson. Yeah. I'm not familiar honestly. Well, Well don't bother looking up anymore about him.
Starting point is 02:06:21 It's fine. It's good. I assume he's a rapper. Go listen to Z-Z-On. It's amazing. Z-Z-On's really good. It's amazing. Is that about Escafoli?
Starting point is 02:06:29 Yes. Yeah. We've got one which is actually been going on for some time and we got spark the electric
Starting point is 02:06:37 jester which was Yeah. mentioned to us as hey, you guys like freedom planet, check this out. Yeah. And you watch it and you click
Starting point is 02:06:45 the video and it's like, yeah, no, that's That looks about right. That's doing the thing. I miss arrow that. It's fast in there. It's crazy and it's doing the thing.
Starting point is 02:06:53 So, Yeah. Can you think more of like Rystar or one of those Yeah. more obscure Sonic team games?
Starting point is 02:07:01 I'm a Genesis that no one really knows. I think it was that Yeah, I think it was similar origins as freedom planet.
Starting point is 02:07:10 But looks fucking cool. Articast is funding 7.7 out of 7k. I think it looks really cool just the character. Yeah. I wish the main character
Starting point is 02:07:18 looked a little different as well. But the game looks good. Game looks fucking like it's, yeah, man. Looks like it's fucking doing it.
Starting point is 02:07:26 All aboard. We've got RetroRator pixel art Academy which looks cool if this is your thing. It's a game that's of course all pixel art
Starting point is 02:07:35 and metric games type thing where you go to school in this fictional like metropolis and you learn how to paint pixel art. Weird.
Starting point is 02:07:43 And it's interesting. Does it have like a drawing tool in it? It kind of Oh, that's hyper specific. That wasn't specified in the thing.
Starting point is 02:07:51 But it seems like it's like you get assignments, you have to do the homework and hand it in. Okay. And it's an online game as well.
Starting point is 02:07:59 So people can like see your work, make corrections, changes. Like suggest them to you and you can continue to draw.
Starting point is 02:08:07 Man, I've never drawn anything in my life, but you just put the blocks next to each other and makes a That's how you start. It makes a picture. Exactly.
Starting point is 02:08:15 And it seems like it's going to be like to teach. Seems super easy. I don't know why you need to learn. And it also For this next lesson
Starting point is 02:08:23 you're going to have to draw Hugo's face. Oh. Now the cool thing is that the guy that does this and he also has like a thing called
Starting point is 02:08:31 RetroRator magazine put the goal at 1K because he's like, I'm making this no matter what happens. But I would appreciate
Starting point is 02:08:39 not having any noodles. That's cool. And everyone's like, Yeah, sure, man. I can buy a food. The final boss of that game is like Animate Elena.
Starting point is 02:08:47 So he's at 42K of 1K. Okay. Yeah. So good job on that. The final boss is here's how to draw like the real manga
Starting point is 02:08:55 artists. Yeah. Yeah, there you go. And the share right there. Then we've got the crowdfunding project of the week. Everybody,
Starting point is 02:09:03 get your fucking bucks together. The uye tank TV. Yeah. Yeah. You love this happening. There is, I know you're all looking at me
Starting point is 02:09:12 because you're all looking at me. Well, you started to talk. Yeah. There is nothing good to say about this machine. What? It looks nice. Why?
Starting point is 02:09:20 All right. So you click on the list. Console is too weak. Getting on that early backer list. What do you see a picture of? You see a PS4. A PS4
Starting point is 02:09:29 looking case with an Xbox One looking controller. Can you tell me how to spell this so I can type this? O-U-Y-E. All caps. Take TV game.
Starting point is 02:09:38 We do it. Oh yeah, it should be enough. So I just want to point out that that Xbox One controller you see is actually a lie. And they're actually
Starting point is 02:09:49 using a shitty Xiaomi PC Bluetooth controller. Did you see that somewhere? Yes. And that picture of the Xbox One controller is actually
Starting point is 02:09:58 a lie on top of being like blatant ass copyright theft. Oh, this is the best. This is the best photo. It is a Frankenstein of copyright theft.
Starting point is 02:10:06 Oh. Like, where did you see that of the real controller? Oh, I had to dig through threads. It's not on the Kickstarter thing.
Starting point is 02:10:14 Oh, China. Whatever. So you fucking Oh, that's a total non-real controller. You scroll down and then you see fucking like an assassin
Starting point is 02:10:22 and then a bunch of fucking games and that are just like, I guess, confirmed. Oh, this is the least real controller. And then the interface No, look, there's the
Starting point is 02:10:32 Xbox dashboard. It's just a hapt Android fucking interface. Yes. So, like, all those game pictures they put
Starting point is 02:10:40 is just like, yeah, okay, there is a version of this game on Android. Let me grab some Assassin's Creed 3 art to imply it's Assassin's
Starting point is 02:10:48 Creed 3. Let me grab some PES, like, 24-15 pictures to imply it's that and not a
Starting point is 02:10:56 Chinese bootleggers are the kings of the world. Kings of the world. I want to think that this was spawned by the recent law change. And I really
Starting point is 02:11:04 I think you're right. And I really hope we get to see this go further. Yeah, well, there's that one. There's the one that Fuse seems to be
Starting point is 02:11:12 like gunning towards and there's the one by Snail, like the Snail TV or whatever. The O-Box. So, like, yeah,
Starting point is 02:11:21 the floodgates have opened a little bit, but they're all piece of shit. Gold Rush on who can get these LPs of these Chinese
Starting point is 02:11:29 knockoff consoles first. Like, the bit that really gets me about these consoles is, like, at least when the OUYA
Starting point is 02:11:38 was coming out, there were a lot of people who wanted to make games for it. At least they had that. This doesn't even have that. Like,
Starting point is 02:11:49 there's nothing. When you boot up the console, I just scan a really cute logo like past the games that just says Triads.
Starting point is 02:11:57 Yeah. Little bit. Little bit. I should just say we do it. I wanted to boot up with the OUYA start screen. Like,
Starting point is 02:12:05 and boot to the Xbox Live Dashboard. And then you hit the fake one. And when you hit guide, it brings up the cross-media part. And you hear
Starting point is 02:12:13 drew-cast noises. And the blades show up from the side, like, but you're like that classic Batman toy where there's a video
Starting point is 02:12:21 of a guy reading it and it's like a bio. Batman is just the most He became the Spider-Man instead. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:12:29 I want the back of this console box to say using 64 blistering bits. It will play all the Sonic
Starting point is 02:12:37 with the last process. You should dive into the world of like PC apart, like, box descriptions.
Starting point is 02:12:45 Yeah. Because a lot of legitimate for real PC companies have boxes like this. I'm sure.
Starting point is 02:12:53 I remember Asus, like, I remember reading the back of my mother board and I'm like, this is, this is fucking nonsense. Sorry, did you say
Starting point is 02:13:01 Asus? I used to say Asus forever and then was informed that Asus is actually the correct way to pronounce that name. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 02:13:09 Okay. Like the whole Mojang thing. Yeah. Stuff like that. It's like, foreign language, I don't know.
Starting point is 02:13:17 Oh, that reminds me, Liam, do you have 17 strange coins in Destiny? Sure. And I had, I had 13 and I had a simple
Starting point is 02:13:26 way to get three more. Oh, no. And I was like, well, well, it's not mine. So, Couldn't get the Galarhorn.
Starting point is 02:13:34 Couldn't get the Galarhorn. But I'm resting in solace that I know it's not going to be the best weapon when the Taken King comes out.
Starting point is 02:13:42 And I'll just get a better weapon. So the description, I don't know what Galarhorn is. I didn't play for that just a rocket launcher.
Starting point is 02:13:50 I've been playing in MMO for months and months. I get the lingo for most of the part. And the discussion about this is the filthiest thing I've ever fucking seen.
Starting point is 02:14:00 Like, everything I've seen discuss the buying of this rocket launcher with strange coins prior to Taken King makes me,
Starting point is 02:14:09 like, want to throw up on a copy of Destiny. How about the part where you can't join certain groups on missions because you don't have it? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:14:17 No, people are real assholes for one. Oh, that happens in everything. Like, oh, you don't have
Starting point is 02:14:25 an FF14 in the party finder. You can make it so that people under a certain eye level, which is your gear strength, can't even join your party. But,
Starting point is 02:14:33 like, there's a guy so I was like, man, I feel really good. I got this back in April. I'd be going crazy if I had to spend
Starting point is 02:14:41 all year waiting for the drop. Yeah. Anyone who's put up with that garbage? I don't know how they do it. Taking King
Starting point is 02:14:49 looks like a very concert-like conceited attempt to be like, we have to change this shit. This shit is so bad. If all the shit that they've been saying about the Taking King
Starting point is 02:14:57 is, like, halfway true, it's going to be a significant increase in our own. I'm really excited for it. That Destiny 2 was a bit bummed that I couldn't get one.
Starting point is 02:15:05 That Destiny 2 is probably going to be pretty good. Yeah. So, here's some, like, Destiny 2
Starting point is 02:15:13 must be the dumbest name ever for anything. Is it the grandest name ever? Destiny 2 on it. Destiny Square? Or Destiny? No,
Starting point is 02:15:21 like, Destiny Continues or some shit like that. Like, like, Destiny 2, like, I am it.
Starting point is 02:15:29 They've already fucked themselves by having the DLC things have, like, proper subtitles so that the proper new game
Starting point is 02:15:37 can't just have subtitle. Well, they could if they wanted to. Because you're still playing Destiny. You know what I mean? I seriously doubt
Starting point is 02:15:45 those two games are going to be better. I'm doubting it more and more. I think the character's going to care about the world. Like, I think they have to combine the world and I don't think
Starting point is 02:15:53 they're going to. Yeah, no, it's hard to say for sure. So, here's some bummer news. Oh, it's like,
Starting point is 02:16:01 Destiny. No, how about we don't say it and just move on? No. There was a treehouse employee that went on a podcast
Starting point is 02:16:09 and got fired for talking real. No, he got fired for breaking NDA. So, I just sound like a real asshole talking about the Xenoblade
Starting point is 02:16:17 localization. I'm not sure. Yes, but he's pretty much justified. Is it not Pranger? Pranger, Pranger.
Starting point is 02:16:25 I specifically refer to the point. It's like, well, we weren't going to take it, so somebody's got to take the hit. So, Nintendo of Europe took the hit. I'm like,
Starting point is 02:16:34 that's a really dickish way to put that. Yeah, for sure. He was on the stage when they did the treehouse inside look on the video. He was one of the guys
Starting point is 02:16:42 that was sitting at the dinner thing. And, yeah, so he appeared on the podcast. It was called,
Starting point is 02:16:50 it was called the Part-Time Gamer's Podcast. Part-Time Gamer's, yeah. And he just, Part-Time. He talked, I don't think he said anything like particularly bad,
Starting point is 02:16:58 but like, he was just being candid about the business end of things and how certain things are not good localizations because, not good, but they're not,
Starting point is 02:17:09 it's not a good idea to localize this because the money doesn't add up. Yeah, of course. Basically. And that's something that you could do at any company except Nintendo.
Starting point is 02:17:17 Yes. Is talk that candidly about that type of thing. Absolutely. And he specifically talked about Captain Rainbow. Like how Phil Spencer's out there doing basically the same thing.
Starting point is 02:17:25 He called out Liam. Yeah, but they didn't allowed to do the same thing. Yeah, because he's friends with the boss also. Is his job to do that? He basically called out
Starting point is 02:17:33 like, like Liam in a way because the Captain Rainbow thing was mentioned by name where he was basically saying like, there's groups of people
Starting point is 02:17:41 that are like, don't you want our money? Don't you want our money? No, I never said that about Captain Rainbow. Are you kidding? No, you just said, you just said,
Starting point is 02:17:49 you wish you got localized. Dude, I wish every game got localized. So what he said, I wish every game got localized in every language. There's a kind of people that are like,
Starting point is 02:17:57 there's a kind of people that are like, don't you want our money in the center? The group that says don't you want our money, that is the most false like fallacy thing ever.
Starting point is 02:18:05 Yes. Don't you want our money set up for Yakuza for this multimillion dollar localization? Don't you want our money? They have said that
Starting point is 02:18:13 in the past. You did. But was then very quickly rebuked by facts, which I responded by going, I don't like those facts. Shut up.
Starting point is 02:18:23 Exactly. So that's the level of discourse present in that argument. So when he was talking about this stuff, he kind of went like, he's like,
Starting point is 02:18:31 people say these kinds of things. And he's like, yeah, we do want your business. You want to make money. But you guys are not a big enough group
Starting point is 02:18:39 to make the market just worth it. You know? And he talked about Xenoblade Chronicles and he talked about just the whole thing where, you know,
Starting point is 02:18:47 it's like, this is why games don't get localized. It's like, it has to be a sensible plot. I find it strange that someone in the tree house
Starting point is 02:18:55 even gets the OK to be on a podcast. He didn't ask. He was just invited and he went. He didn't ask. He knew the guys and he just showed up.
Starting point is 02:19:04 So in fact, it has nothing to do with anything he said. He could have said anything and they still probably hired him because Nintendo would be like that. Well, no, because Nintendo
Starting point is 02:19:12 wouldn't have him be there alone. Yeah. It's likely that his NDA specifies that you can't ever talk about work ever. And it's like...
Starting point is 02:19:20 Which is common for NDA. Which is standard. It's standard, yeah. And it's likely that even if he didn't say these things, it doesn't matter what he said.
Starting point is 02:19:28 If he talked about work, it's still... Well, he talked about a sandwich. Unless the sandwich doesn't get localized. But if it's a sandwich in the tree house,
Starting point is 02:19:36 the most secretive fucking thing ever, anything remotely like... But then he should have been on the podcast because he had nothing to say. And it was a pretty
Starting point is 02:19:45 lengthy podcast. So I think he thought it was kind of under the radar. And the long form of this is that NDAs are bullshit. No. No, they exist
Starting point is 02:19:53 in the world. They exist for like religion. Everyone should be able to tell everybody everything. Yeah, that's stupid. So, you know, and then
Starting point is 02:20:01 the saddest part is like... I don't care. I want to know stuff. Like after this all went down and you got fired, like he was just publicly flogging himself. Just going like,
Starting point is 02:20:09 yeah, no. I fucked up. He said I deserved it. Yeah. He's like, ultimately, this was my own fault. I didn't see it coming. And then he just wrote
Starting point is 02:20:17 a big thing on Facebook to his friends and family about how much he fucked up. You know. The security of his family is at risk. I know. It's just a shake.
Starting point is 02:20:25 Like, guess what? Don't break your NDA. I have a hard time being empathetic. Like, fuck. You fucked up, man. He knows it. You guys never broke
Starting point is 02:20:33 your NDAs. Dude, Nat never broke his NDA. I've never been under NDA. I was talking with Bunny Hop last time we met him.
Starting point is 02:20:41 And he was like, oh, could you tell me some shit? And I was like, no, I can't. Even though I don't work there anymore, the NDA's still good
Starting point is 02:20:49 for years. It's like, it's straight up, like, don't break your fucking NDA. He's like, I'll buy you ice cream.
Starting point is 02:20:57 No, I put my name on the paper. Yeah. Your ass in court, man. Yeah, exactly. It was a lot of fun time. He got, he got off light.
Starting point is 02:21:05 Because that would have been tremendously unfair. But Nintendo was within their rights to go way further. Exactly. Because like, if the NDAs we signed
Starting point is 02:21:13 were what they were, a fucking tree house NDA is, I can only imagine. I'm clearly no business man, expert guy about business. But for future
Starting point is 02:21:22 job offers, you might not want to have a blog post describing how guilty you feel about fucking up and getting fired
Starting point is 02:21:30 and how justified it was to fire you. Because that might make future job offers like dry up a little. Or interviews awkward when they discovered that like admittance.
Starting point is 02:21:41 Well, nobody finds it out during the interview or it might make somebody feel bad and send them a job offer. I don't know man. You know,
Starting point is 02:21:49 he said it was a lesson learned. Let's send them a job offer. As you got one. And then tell him that he can't talk about it. And then fire him
Starting point is 02:21:57 when he talks about it. And then tell him it was all work. Let's do it. Let's do it. We've got these are uninteresting. Oh,
Starting point is 02:22:08 Big Hero 6 World in Kingdom Hearts 3. That sounds pretty cool. All of us confirm Marvel stuff. Well, actually confirm it. Which is nice.
Starting point is 02:22:16 I saw that and I went like, oh cool. And then I read on and it was like, oh it takes place after the plot of Big Hero 6.
Starting point is 02:22:24 So it actually continues the plot of Big Hero 6. That's super rare for the Kingdom Hearts series because they usually they
Starting point is 02:22:32 that's really cool. So like the the aliens, whatever, take over the the Baymax body that got left behind. Okay.
Starting point is 02:22:40 And like it continues from there with the replacement Baymax. So you're Samurai, Disney Infinity toy confirmed. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:48 That's what I'm saying. Have they announced Iron Man World? There is no such one. Yeah. Have they announced Star Wars?
Starting point is 02:22:56 Yeah. In Kingdom Hearts? No, no, sorry, because I was watching the live blog and it was Kingdom Hearts
Starting point is 02:23:04 and Disney Infinity News like mixing together. Mixing together. So I was just mixing it together. I thought I thought then Star Wars World
Starting point is 02:23:12 for Kingdom Hearts they technically did by saying there's a Big Hero 6 world and that's technically Marvel. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:23:20 So there was Disney Infinity news at the same time but the Kingdom Hearts news. I want my dump crossover anime game to have
Starting point is 02:23:28 the most amazing Disney Infinity. And I heard from a guy, I didn't actually look this up, but I heard from a guy that how you get the
Starting point is 02:23:36 Keyblade is by having all figures. Oh! For real? Oh! That's what I heard from a guy who I trust.
Starting point is 02:23:44 Barf! Woolly and I both know. He wasn't supposed to talk. He's getting fired. This is fucking crazy.
Starting point is 02:23:52 That's not inside info. That's like publicly available but Google it. Barf time. A tech line producer says we'd make
Starting point is 02:24:00 Dead Island 2 if Silver asked us. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. He also said he felt like it might be not possible on
Starting point is 02:24:09 current gen consoles. Because their weak is shit compared to PCs even now. He said that. Yeah. And it's like well I mean you can
Starting point is 02:24:17 optimize your game more and you'll actually do that. Well no, there's a hard limit on things that you want to do. No for sure, but like it makes me wonder
Starting point is 02:24:25 what the scope of it is for that to be part of the question. It could be stupid huge. But like unless you're flying in the sky you can just optimize your game.
Starting point is 02:24:33 That's what I'm confused with. Dead Island 2? Yeah. Dead Island 2 does fuck. It was like basically put on indefinitely.
Starting point is 02:24:41 They shit can the studio and then it's been floating around going on and on. Didn't they get shifted to another studio? From Jager.
Starting point is 02:24:49 No, from Jager. No, that's what they shut down. Jager got shit can because they were fucking up or something. And it moved to another studio.
Starting point is 02:24:57 I can't remember. I didn't remember. I thought so. Who the fuck knows? Dead Island is trash compared to Dying Light 2. Exactly.
Starting point is 02:25:05 I haven't really been following it because of that. Dying Light should be called Dead Island 2. I was so confused as fucking second time. I was referring to Dying Light 2 where
Starting point is 02:25:15 the guy said it could move to the next studio. No, no, no. Yeah, he said they're extraordinary. I was also
Starting point is 02:25:23 referring to Dying Light 2. They're currently doing a Dying Light expansion and they're experimenting with Dying Light 2 ideas. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:25:31 They're talking about Dead Island. They probably fucked. These games are just canceled down the tube. If they
Starting point is 02:25:39 kind of did. If they said we don't think the current gen consoles are powerful enough, it's probably they want to expand the landmass
Starting point is 02:25:47 with that system to an absurd degree. It can only be something like we want you to fly. Or it has to get to a point where they want
Starting point is 02:25:55 or they want the same landmass with some super complicated like Left 4 Dead style director zombie controlling system which uses a way, way, way too much CPU
Starting point is 02:26:03 power. Techland also canceled that other game that they had. The Hell Knight first person like Heretic style game. They just canceled it.
Starting point is 02:26:11 They're like, yeah, we're working on Dying Light instead. So I think everything swept off the table. The Yeager situation smashed success.
Starting point is 02:26:19 So a lot. It looks like the Yeager situation is similar to we did super well. Yeah. It's similar to phantom dust
Starting point is 02:26:28 in that the game itself is not canceled. The devs were canceled. The devs were canceled. The devs were canceled. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:26:36 They've canceled you. Yeah. Please never speak of this. It's kind of like a Starcraft studio. Starcraft Ghost was being made by Nihilistic
Starting point is 02:26:44 or something software who made fucking more nihilistic Marvel. They made a Marvel Rise of the Imperfects. Then they kind of canceled it.
Starting point is 02:26:52 And then they gave it to Swinging Ape Studios who made metal arms glitching the system. And then they canceled that. God Nihilistic got the fucking worst
Starting point is 02:27:00 end of any stick right before they like quit making this. What is going on? It's fucking crazy. Okay. We got the release of Udon's
Starting point is 02:27:09 The Life and Deaths of Charlie Nash. Yeah. Which is hilarious for them especially. Life and death. Because they're the only people that
Starting point is 02:27:17 ever made sense out of that fucking clusterfuck that is Charlie dying three times across the different alpha games. That's a triple
Starting point is 02:27:26 Jesus. He is so popular with the kids. We've got to bring them back. When I opened up issue one of Street Fighter the original. Charlie's dead.
Starting point is 02:27:34 And it's the first page. I'm like these dudes got some they're out to something. Yeah. They're out to something. Yeah. And then page two
Starting point is 02:27:42 is Chun Lee's dad having his ass whipped by the dolls. Everybody that needs to be dead. Dead right away. Right away. So yeah.
Starting point is 02:27:50 They're going through that retcon. And I'm sure that they rolled their eyes when they saw the zombie Nash. But they were like all right.
Starting point is 02:27:58 Well let's do it. Let's pull the shadow thing out again. A second time. God damn. This is the kind of thing that happens with Udon where they'll kind of
Starting point is 02:28:06 go. Well we told the story. We did it. We really glad that it was Street Fighter 4. Oh fuck. So then they made that
Starting point is 02:28:14 Street Fighter 4 like six issue. Chanko stew. Yeah. Chanko stew. And they cancelled that Super Street Fighter cart.
Starting point is 02:28:22 Like remember that bound book. It was Super Street Fighter in volume one. They cancelled that. And now they're making a new one called Street Fighter which will again
Starting point is 02:28:34 incorporate Street Fighter 5 into it. So Capcom continually ruining any semblance of order that Udon can make out of their story. And I don't blame them
Starting point is 02:28:44 because I know they're trying. I as someone who bought the individual singles for each one. I did too. That's crazy. I bought the anthologies.
Starting point is 02:28:52 With their covers. You're nuts. Some of them yeah. I totally like it hurts but you know I collected them. I'm going to do it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:29:01 I want to know because their stories are pretty good. What's going on? What's up? So hot off the press about an hour ago Capcom has
Starting point is 02:29:09 asked for the Resident Evil 2 fan remake to be stopped in the light of the official remake of Resident Evil 2. Figures. They were
Starting point is 02:29:17 they were invited to meet Capcom and they were called up in advance of the announcement personally and asked to
Starting point is 02:29:25 stop the project. That is so much more than any other company has done ever. And they have invited them
Starting point is 02:29:33 to discuss further ideas. Holy shit. They're hiring them on. The fucking whining and dining here. And they say
Starting point is 02:29:41 the work done until now will be useful for future projects. We hope we don't have any expectations. Not Capcom,
Starting point is 02:29:49 sorry, but the fan guys said that. Well, there's the proof that like the Capcom not shutting down fan projects thing is like
Starting point is 02:29:57 actually policy. Yeah. Where they're being that nice to them. They fucking like invited them in and they're discussing future
Starting point is 02:30:05 ideas. That's insane. That means can you can you rejigger this into something else? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:30:13 For us as a fan. We don't have to listen to you. This kind of game in this engine. I would imagine these guys
Starting point is 02:30:21 chairs. I would imagine like if they want to take them on like these guys would be good because they probably have fairly encyclopedic knowledge of the game.
Starting point is 02:30:29 Yes. Which like even though they work at Capcom like not all employees are going to know it that well. Are they even Japanese? Where's the team from?
Starting point is 02:30:37 I don't believe they're Japanese. That could be a location. I don't know the location. You know what? This is the
Starting point is 02:30:45 one good happy outcome of this kind of thing. Yeah. Where it's followed up with okay can you please stop but come over here
Starting point is 02:30:53 for a second. Let's talk about some stuff. Well the best bit is that they were invited before the like announcement. So they got to talk about it.
Starting point is 02:31:01 They knew before. Yeah exactly. So that's awesome. Capcom is steering the ship around and getting some public favor here. Maybe
Starting point is 02:31:09 maybe maybe we'll get back to Capcom. Maybe we'll get back to Capcom. Maybe we'll get back to Capcom. I know you tried to
Starting point is 02:31:17 say it. I said gobb. I tripped over my own tongue. It's really huge. You tripped over your gobb. Okay.
Starting point is 02:31:25 My gobb? Yeah. Don't swear on me mum. Tunch. We got pretty much a confirmation that Kim was going to
Starting point is 02:31:33 show up in season 3. Yeah. I saw a spear. Even I know this. That's not a thing. I was like super. I saw it on a
Starting point is 02:31:41 venue. I was like wrong. Michelangelo is the same character. It's not what you thought that has nothing
Starting point is 02:31:49 to do with my character. So what we've learned is that Willie has gained a supreme skill of this form of deflection
Starting point is 02:31:57 because I tried it and I can't pull it off. Yeah. It takes us like who knows to you Willie.
Starting point is 02:32:05 You've mastered the art of just no. I was wrong but just ignore that. Um. Fucking backhanded compliment.
Starting point is 02:32:15 That's not a compliment. Well I like how you're like you're turning a degree to disagree into a thing. That's like is that a bad
Starting point is 02:32:23 thing to say? It is when you're completely wrong. Well much earlier in this very podcast I saw Willie took like a slight thing
Starting point is 02:32:31 for me. I didn't say anything but I was like ah yeah. That said something and then like why would anyone like this?
Starting point is 02:32:39 And Willie right. But I was like ah yeah. We hung out too often we're all starting to turn into the same person. I don't like this.
Starting point is 02:32:48 To the morphism. Yo Scrooge of rage 4 concept art. Yeah I saw it. It's not that great. It's alright. I mean like
Starting point is 02:32:56 because it's concept art right? Like well there's good concept art and bad concept art. I know and you look at like Final Fantasy 9's
Starting point is 02:33:04 concept art and some of it's fucking atrocious and it's like because a lot of the new cast I would have been totally down. Fucking Axl Junior
Starting point is 02:33:12 and grown up Skate. Yeah that's great. That's good. That's great. Do you want to do the same colored clothes as your dad? Brother.
Starting point is 02:33:20 That's the rule. Brother. Brother. Do you want to start a new bed? Oh sorry. I thought you meant Skate wearing the same
Starting point is 02:33:28 colored clothes as Adam. No. Which is the same. No no. But you realize by confusion there right? Yeah exactly.
Starting point is 02:33:36 But yes Axl Junior wears the same colored clothes as Adam. And you should be instituted. I think Sega will cancel
Starting point is 02:33:44 an official or fan remake of Streets of Rage once per year forever. I mean they haven't done one since the Bomber Games one
Starting point is 02:33:52 a few years ago. Man we don't have enough the only way to reduce their dark cars. There's three that I'm aware of. Well there's the Ruffian one
Starting point is 02:34:00 of the Bomber Games that there's Grin. Those were recent. Grin was before that but like that's 3 over 5 or 6 years. And the basement coffers
Starting point is 02:34:08 is a fund for Shenmue Online that's still going. Yeah. And they have to keep that. They have to keep the walls right.
Starting point is 02:34:16 They got to do it. And we got of course the new specie coming out this month. Yay. There's a new specie coming out this month. Well good.
Starting point is 02:34:24 What? You heard me. The ZX Spectrum is coming out. Yeah. Right after Rare Replay. So
Starting point is 02:34:32 there's a truck with all these new speckies and it comes out of the factory and it falls into the docks. And all the speckies
Starting point is 02:34:40 go into the water. And then it goes like the job. Well done. See? Like a re-release of the same hardware.
Starting point is 02:34:48 The Sinclair ZX Spectrum Vega Murui is coming out on the 24th of August 2015. What is this?
Starting point is 02:34:56 It's a new, new microcontroller computer based on the influential spectrum part. Okay. So that's okay.
Starting point is 02:35:04 That's true. It was super influential because when everyone else looked at the game they said we gotta make games better than this. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:35:12 This is like we gotta make graphics that don't make people's eggs. It's got the blessings of Sinclair. We need to
Starting point is 02:35:20 make some original games. So this was an independent Indiegoco project. I bet it was. It was.
Starting point is 02:35:28 And for Smith. Right into the channel with this voice. So yeah. This is like saying a new Genesis came out. Like it's a Neo Geo
Starting point is 02:35:36 fucking. Yeah. Exactly. Neo Geo got bought by some Chinese company. Yeah. Good. Now they'll do stuff.
Starting point is 02:35:44 Maybe. Like not make games. Like Pachinko. More Pachinko. Continue to not make video games. God, stop sending me
Starting point is 02:35:52 Pachinko trailers. Well, what the Bayo one will stop when they stop being made. Everyone said the
Starting point is 02:36:00 Bayo one going like, hey, look, guys, reactions. So the games were the franchises. Yeah. The persona and Bayonetta ones made
Starting point is 02:36:08 me roll my eyes through the back of my head because Sega has been making slot machines since before they made video games. Sure. Also,
Starting point is 02:36:16 they've been making them the whole time. Yeah. Just in this past year, people started to give a shit for no reason. It's because we started with the
Starting point is 02:36:24 fucking Neo Fury shit. Exactly. Here, the difference is again that it's a franchise that's dead except for Pachinko.
Starting point is 02:36:32 I think that's a healthy franchise who gives a shit. Honestly, even the Castlevania one, I love Castlevania. It doesn't fucking bother me.
Starting point is 02:36:40 The existence of a Castlevania or Silent Hill or Fatal Fury or Garo Pachinko doesn't know the existence of a game
Starting point is 02:36:48 because it wasn't going to happen. No, but it's like spinning on a grave. It's the absence of the game
Starting point is 02:36:56 that would be there and seeing the highest res Terry is like, there was never a game where you had a pet you really loved
Starting point is 02:37:04 and he died and then a pet shows up that has a mask of your pet at your door and goes, ha,
Starting point is 02:37:12 I'm not actually your pet. That's a false equivalence. Is it though? The sentiment towards a pet versus sentiment towards you. I love Garo
Starting point is 02:37:20 as much as any pet. Wow. That's what I actually meant by when I said I guess you don't love anything. Because I was going to say
Starting point is 02:37:28 if they announced with you or near or like streets of rage patchy slot, it wouldn't bother me even remotely because it's like
Starting point is 02:37:36 even if near was never going to come out ever again. Even if there was no near even if they even if they canceled the current near in order to make it.
Starting point is 02:37:44 Fuck you because it wouldn't like because you know because there was there wasn't going to be a game. No, but what if there was
Starting point is 02:37:52 I don't want to make it. That's different for sure. I'm just trying to find a scenario in that order. It's like bad box art
Starting point is 02:38:00 Mega Man with Legends 3. Yeah. It's going to happen anyway. This one shitty thing happens. This we will
Starting point is 02:38:08 actually have to agree to disagree because it's purely emotional. Yeah, exactly. It's just if you don't have emotions,
Starting point is 02:38:16 I have too many. If I see an amazing new last blade cutscene and it's for last blade the patchy slot.
Starting point is 02:38:24 No, for sure. Now, it's going to be recognized. I know it's going to be a patch slot game.
Starting point is 02:38:32 The no spoilers has now become the patchy slot delivery system. But keep using no spoilers because it's great.
Starting point is 02:38:40 Yeah, there should be a thing that's all spoilers and like all over the video the sidebars, the ads. There was
Starting point is 02:38:48 scrolling across the video. I remember I don't know what the website was called, but there was a website that was like
Starting point is 02:38:56 every time you hit next, it would hit you with random spoiler from anything. I would tell you what it was.
Starting point is 02:39:04 Yeah, it would tell you the spoiler and then underneath it would say this is Citizen Kane. Yeah, it was like
Starting point is 02:39:12 I feel just I got like two in and so all these mother fuckers that do that. I feel sad because it's like
Starting point is 02:39:20 you just don't care about media. Yeah, you know, if you do that. That's good. Song's not that great. Tribute to video gaming
Starting point is 02:39:28 pretty fun. That's pretty good. And he's cool. Worth checking out. And yeah, we're done. Oh, Persona 5 is guaranteed to
Starting point is 02:39:36 come out in North America in 2015. How's that days? They there was there was a translation that was wrong that said that
Starting point is 02:39:44 then they corrected that translation making everyone think that the game would not come out in 2015. Then they re-emphasize
Starting point is 02:39:52 that yes it would and that didn't make either. And then they just came out today and was like guys, for real though,
Starting point is 02:40:00 it's gonna come out in 2015 in English. We promise. And now the only people that get to be upset is people in the UK. Although they did say
Starting point is 02:40:11 that like they don't want another SMT-4 overclocked on their hands, so they're aware of their situation. I want to thank a whole bunch of people that
Starting point is 02:40:20 all wrote in to say celebrity deathmatch. It wasn't worth it. Yeah. They sent that into SuperBestFriendcast.com. Oh did you guys
Starting point is 02:40:28 record that? We did. Okay, because I played that game many, many years ago. That's a hunk of shit. That's not a game. I suppose in the video
Starting point is 02:40:36 we must have asked if you think it was worth it. I specifically said that to where? To SuperBestFriendcast.com. And a whole lot of people did,
Starting point is 02:40:44 so good job. Appreciate it. What do we got for emails this week? Franco wants to know. Franco Fox wants to know. Not really. Franco from the west coast.
Starting point is 02:40:56 Adir Mishima Zaibatsu, what is your favorite menu theme that's not a main theme from the game? That's not the main thing. Not the main theme of the game,
Starting point is 02:41:07 but it's on the main menu. But it's on the main menu. That's a good question. Metroid Prime 1. It's solid. It's really good. It's solid. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:41:15 I like this. So fucking good. Like it stands out to me because I just remember it. It's probably not my favorite, but Bionic Commando has a really good one.
Starting point is 02:41:23 That's the main theme though. I know it is the main theme and that's a problem, so that can't work. I'm not big on menu themes. There's got to be a good one. Yeah, for sure. I like the Street Fighter 4 one
Starting point is 02:41:38 because I've heard it so much. Street Fighter 4 is pretty good. Yeah. Probably the Persona 1 drug store. You ever hear it? That's good. Well,
Starting point is 02:41:50 I think he meant main menu. It's kind of good. Do you hit a menu? It's very specific. Sorry. No, it's an interesting question. If not that, then I have nothing.
Starting point is 02:42:00 Because basically, it's basically like, do you remember ever like turning a game on, letting the title screen go and just being like, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:42:08 No, you know what? I've got multiple All the Smash Brothers games. But those are all the main themes. No, they're not. He would know. No, they're all the main themes. They're all the main themes.
Starting point is 02:42:19 They're not. They have 10 main themes. They have one main theme that plays dirty. No, they're all the main themes. Melee menu and music too is a different track entirely. It's this really light noise.
Starting point is 02:42:29 No, but that's also the other main theme. It doesn't noise. There's only one main theme for a game. You're full of shit. I'm full of shit. Yeah, dude. So Smash 64,
Starting point is 02:42:38 think about the way Free 4 All comes blasting in after like a really silent little twinkle thing is playing. Yeah. In 64. I got enough. Dude, the Melee and Brawl menu themes
Starting point is 02:42:47 are really strong. Smash 4 is pretty good too. Yeah. That's a good one. No, I'm not big on menus. All right. Fighting games do it really well, though, for sure.
Starting point is 02:42:56 Fighting games do it well. Indestructible. That's the one. No, that's the main theme. No. It is. No, actually the main theme is the one that played
Starting point is 02:43:04 in that last trailer. No, because that theme was used for all subsequent trailer releases and as the intro faded from Indestructible into that theme. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:43:14 You know what? The main menu theme is fucking amazing. By Tappy. Metal Gear Solid 1. Yes. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 02:43:23 Yes. Punctuated by the gunshot when you're ready. That's the one. Damn. That song is good. Liam nailed it. That's the one.
Starting point is 02:43:31 Yeah, it's not the main theme. It's super not. It's so subtle, but like really good. Oh. Oh. Metal Gear Solid 3. Just don't.
Starting point is 02:43:40 Yeah, that's pretty good. That one's pretty good. Yeah. Because it's, again, not the main theme. I'm gonna tear that title screen forever. Yeah. That's what it's meant for.
Starting point is 02:43:49 It's the persona forming menu with the main theme. Yes, it is. Because it's a re, it's a very nice, of nevermore. Yeah, so yeah. It can.
Starting point is 02:43:58 And I'll face myself in a non-battle version. All right. Hey guys, BlackjackDaddy says... I don't think this is really... I haven't been into fighting games,
Starting point is 02:44:07 but recently started playing Rise and Thunder. Woo! It started to click. I love it. Sadly, I can't afford a console. Should I buy a controller for fighting games, or is there no hope
Starting point is 02:44:16 for a PC gamer like me? Dude, you're already in. You're in the premiere. You're already in. Absolutely. You don't even need a controller. Just use a keyboard. Like, you might want a song
Starting point is 02:44:24 of new fighting games, but most of them, you should be able to. But yeah, but if you are having fun with that, then totally grab a controller and just...
Starting point is 02:44:32 And if you want a branch out, there's a shit ton of fighting games on Steam and all of them support control. Nearly all of them support controllers. I forgot to talk about something. So,
Starting point is 02:44:40 it's the first time he's done it. I've done it three times. The only stuff you're missing out on is any new anime games, because all the old ones... They don't go to PC.
Starting point is 02:44:48 All the old ones you can emulate. Well, they don't tend to. Yeah. Stuff like Aquapasa, years and years and years and years. I think you'll take your will eventually. You want to play a fucking Night's Blue version
Starting point is 02:44:56 and get to PC at all. You can play a fucking Night's Blue version and get to PC at all. Oh, it's embarrassing. Play some little on PC. It's bad. It's shameful. It's bad.
Starting point is 02:45:04 Fucking sat down when the Street Fighter V data was running and said, all right, Protos Max, let's see what you got. Okay.
Starting point is 02:45:13 Right. And... Dude, you have never, in your life, seen hoops to getting something to work. Oh, no.
Starting point is 02:45:24 But the whole point of the Chronos Max is... Hardcore. The point of the Chronos Max is that it is no hoops. So, no. That's no. It's not.
Starting point is 02:45:32 It's not that it's no hoops. It's that it works with everything. And it does put the fucking hoops. And I'm a... So this is a device that lets you plug your old sticks, your PS3 stick,
Starting point is 02:45:43 and do a PS4 and stuff, right? What it actually does is let you plug any controller into any other console that supports USB. From when to when? Like... From,
Starting point is 02:45:53 I want to say, from the time USB started becoming the standard input. Okay, but it's USB on both ends. USB on both ends. Oh, okay. So any USB controller
Starting point is 02:46:02 into any other USB console, and it'll work. But the fucking setup. So first, it's like, okay, this just doesn't work out of the box, because it's firmware is out there.
Starting point is 02:46:12 Sure. Update the firmware. You go to update the firmware, and it has a side USB B slot on the device. For that. For PC, updating and usage only.
Starting point is 02:46:20 Makes sense. So you go update the firmware, and then it turns out that at some point in the business that happened for this product, there's a falling out between the creators.
Starting point is 02:46:30 And neither of them, like, relinquished the rights to the product. Oh, this is the best. So products made from a certain time frame backwards in 2014
Starting point is 02:46:41 are now considered obsolete illegal products, according to the new Cronus Max company that is selling a new version of their Cronus Max. Which means you go to update your firmware
Starting point is 02:46:54 on your old one, and it tells you, it tells you fuck off unless you can show us the purchase that you made and the details of it, where it came from, and your email,
Starting point is 02:47:04 and all this shit. That thing came in the mail. Otherwise, which I then said, you know what? No. I don't care. I'm going to go as far
Starting point is 02:47:12 as possible, because this is hilarious. I tracked down the guy and asked him for the details, and he sent them. It was Chris from Levine. I can't believe. And he sent it over to me.
Starting point is 02:47:23 You made us do that. And I fucking emailed the Cronus Max people about this and said, hey, so people who were legit customers are suddenly knocked
Starting point is 02:47:31 because of some bad business decision that went down between you guys or something. I'm not sure of the details. What's up with that? I'm going to update my firmware. And it's like, no,
Starting point is 02:47:39 you can't do it unless you can properly provide this purchase information and so on and so forth, because these products... I need to get paid. Because these products that were official
Starting point is 02:47:48 are now no longer official. And are illegal. Right? So... According to them. I then go to the clone website, which is, I guess, made by the people
Starting point is 02:47:57 who were on the other end of that bar business deal. This is the mouse. And they have their own version of the software and firmware updates that are a hacked, hacked version of what
Starting point is 02:48:07 the other guys are doing. No wonder they call it illegal. But then it works. So I get that update going and then it's like, okay, but just having that firmware update is nowhere near enough.
Starting point is 02:48:18 Oh, no. What you've got to do is then download what they call a GPC, which is the thing that lets... The short term is just like, the thing that lets it
Starting point is 02:48:29 interact with the console you want to choose. The official ones supported by the official side of things are only available in that program, but there's people that are cloning it
Starting point is 02:48:38 on the opposite side. So I had to copy and paste the script onto the clone side and save it. Put it on the fucking device. Is that enough to get it working? No!
Starting point is 02:48:48 So then you plug it in and it turns out that for the PS4 specifically, it will start working if you plug in a legit PS4 controller and then it has an AU flash on it that says Needs Authentication.
Starting point is 02:49:03 You unplug that controller, it then has the authentication of the controller you plugged in. It lets you do any device and it will work for 30 seconds and then it stops working and it works laglessly.
Starting point is 02:49:14 I used it to play in Street Fighter 5 laglessly for 30 seconds and then it just stops working and I have no more input because the PS4 specifically requests authentication from a controller
Starting point is 02:49:26 every 30 seconds. You can then install a side pack, a side hack that lets it check every 10 minutes but still. And what it does is it has and then you load in a GPC
Starting point is 02:49:39 that lets you reset that 10 minute timer by pressing select and X. No. Right? Every 10 minutes. And so if you have a controller, a controller, it will vibrate
Starting point is 02:49:50 as you approach 10 minutes to let you know oh, it's time to press it and they're like, it's a no problem, it's seamless, you press it between rounds, you're totally fine,
Starting point is 02:49:58 it's not a problem. You gotta fucking get that shit going, all right? I got that shit going. Yeah, of course. It's at that level but then it's like, okay, no, it's still,
Starting point is 02:50:09 it'll get the 10 minute timer working but it won't let the fucking reset thing work because it's on the clone firmware, not the real one. So then I realize there's an alternative solution where you can plug the fucking thing
Starting point is 02:50:20 into your computer and run something called XAIM which lets you put the fucking keyboard mapping onto, so that you can use a mouse and keyboard with your FPSs on your fighting game or on your whatever PS4 input.
Starting point is 02:50:34 Because it didn't work with this cracked version, I had to then run Joy2Key to map my state to Joy2Key which then runs into XAIM back into the Cronus Max, into the computer and I got it working
Starting point is 02:50:46 and right around that time the beta shut down. So what you're saying is this is perfect for tournament play. Perfect for tournament play. Excellent. Big E game. Bravo.
Starting point is 02:50:55 Has banned it from all tournaments. Bravo. It's to those guys. It's fucking cool. And somebody walks up with this thing and they just throw tomatoes at them. And here's the thing is I feel like at every step of the way
Starting point is 02:51:08 they're like, no one's gonna go as far as I'm... And I'm like, no. No, I need to know how far this goes. How deep does this rabbit hole go? And I found out. You got it working.
Starting point is 02:51:16 I found out. It's like this five-way daisy chain from to my console, to my computer, to my controller, to my stick. Dude, and I should take a picture of it and just tweet it to him
Starting point is 02:51:27 and be like, look at this bitch. I get frustrated changing inputs on the other one. Like, I can't believe you went this far. I had to know. So there we go. That's awesome. That's great.
Starting point is 02:51:40 Rolicking success. Recommended product? Unrustled. Hey, do you guys think Alatoise Dove Bloodborne has a chance of ever being released on the PC? No. No.
Starting point is 02:51:53 Next question. I'm sorry. Wait for a minute. Wait, honestly, wait for a PC emulator because that's more likely to happen. That's like 11 years from now. People don't want to wait that long.
Starting point is 02:52:02 But that one's going to happen. Instead, they'd rather yell into the darkness. But at least that one's going to happen. 140 characters or less. Sony helped develop and publish it. It's a console exclusive. As much as Mario is. Sony put the dollars in the dollar hole.
Starting point is 02:52:17 It's up to Sony to say whether or not it goes to PC. It's one of their shining first party titles. I cannot ever see them doing so. The company that puts the dollars in the wiener slot gets to pick. That was a little odd. Was it?
Starting point is 02:52:31 Yeah. Jimmy wants to know what soundtrack has a really good representation of progression. Corpse Party. Corpse Party. I was just playing it super fresh in my mind.
Starting point is 02:52:42 The main theme, I forget what it's called when the main theme is in like all the songs. What's that called? There's a word for it. I know what you're talking about. Corpse Party does it
Starting point is 02:52:51 fabulously. Persona 3. Persona 3 is what I was thinking. The Tartarus theme is very, very fantastic. Absolutely, yeah. Yeah, that's cool.
Starting point is 02:52:59 Killer Instinct. Killer Instinct is pretty good. If you have the fight doing nothing, there's almost no beat. That just blows it. Also, I'm going to say it's on a much smaller scale
Starting point is 02:53:08 than what we're talking about, the middle gear rising. Yeah. The boss fights progress perfectly. Danganronpa also does it really well with a lot of the tunes where it just keeps
Starting point is 02:53:20 doing the same thing, but better this time. The sick tunes. I heard some of those tunes. They're pretty cool. Yeah, exactly. And one last one
Starting point is 02:53:28 from Wilson. He wants to know How you doing, Wilson? Show us your face, asshole. Goddamn. He's a volleyball. Volleyball.
Starting point is 02:53:39 There you go. He's dead or alive. He's hidden behind Tim the tool man's face. Did we get it all? Are those the only two? Yeah. Have you ever preferred
Starting point is 02:53:47 the alternate ending for a film, TV show, game, story, etc. to the original? I can't say I've ever preferred. I usually respect them separately if it's good.
Starting point is 02:53:57 Yeah. There's alternate endings that have stuck in my mind, but that I preferred not early. Like I Am Legend is one of those ones where it's like it's nowhere near as good
Starting point is 02:54:07 as the original, but it's like. I Am Legend's alternate ending is the real ending. Yeah. No, it's not. The real, real ending is the fucking book ending.
Starting point is 02:54:15 Which is what the alternate ending to I Am Legend is. Not exactly. It's similar, but not. It's very similar. It's similar to the whatever man
Starting point is 02:54:25 with Charles and Heston. Yeah. Omega Man. But that's not the original. The original is the source book. Like, Snowpiercer isn't really... It's not really
Starting point is 02:54:35 an adaptation of the book. Well, he's dry. He's in here. Snowpiercer isn't really an adaptation of the book, but it's significantly better ending included than the book ever was.
Starting point is 02:54:47 That's the final answer. Like, man, the first three quarters of the book is fine, and then it just kind of fumbles, and then they have a second book. Well, it's amazing that the person that adapted it
Starting point is 02:54:59 was like, well, they clearly saw that this is a good idea. And completely fix this idea. Let's fix this idea while we do it. To the right. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:55:08 Oh man, it's all about the icebreaker. Dude, I don't know. The icebreaker is where it's not at. Yeah. Don't get on the icebreaker. Don't get on the icebreaker.
Starting point is 02:55:16 Don't get where it's at. Exactly. It's coming up. Yeah. WrestleMania continues. WrestleMania continues. I think the only new thing this week is our look at
Starting point is 02:55:24 Rare Replay. Oh, for videos? Yeah. I scheduled Reboot 3. Reboot 3. Reboot 3's coming. I saw that. Your pain is legion.
Starting point is 02:55:32 It is. Is Part 3 to have the bad part in it yet? Part 3. The bad part was in Part 2, but Part 3 gets even worse. I'm talking about the specific story you told me.
Starting point is 02:55:41 Yeah, that was Part 2. That was Part 2? That was Part 2. I gotta get that. And after this, I have some soul searching to do. You do. Search for your own,
Starting point is 02:55:51 because it's been sucked out of you. I imagine there's at least one game this week that you're looking forward to, Pat. Maybe? No. No. Is a game coming out this week?
Starting point is 02:56:01 Zombie? That's going out this week, Tuesday, tomorrow. I know you liked that game a lot, so that wasn't true. I'll probably pick it up, play it for about 10 minutes, and go,
Starting point is 02:56:09 yep, they did a good part. They did a good part. That's fair. And trying to grind up in Rising Thunder. Make sure you can sit on the ground now, like a cool guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:56:19 They just added that to Final Fantasy 4 today. No, they didn't. They added new setting animations. New setting. And that's coming in 3.1, which has no date. I just said,
Starting point is 02:56:27 sit on the ground like a cool guy. Soon you'll get new sets. You didn't... I currently sit on the floor like a cool guy. You're not a cool guy. You're not a cool guy. That's the pose.
Starting point is 02:56:35 I saw people posting pictures of you in spats. No. That was weird. That was bad. That was no weirder than when you did it in real life. I'm looking forward
Starting point is 02:56:45 to not watching any more Steven Universe until another giant collection of episodes is done. You saw that leaked list? I saw it. That leaked list of titles?
Starting point is 02:56:53 Fuck you. I didn't want to know that. From Land For Fist. From Land For Fist. From Land For Fist. Sounds cool. You're in Spoiler Town now. Don't tell me that.
Starting point is 02:57:01 I'm going to... And no one even knows if it's on. I know, of course. And Liam, we were briefly talking about on the way out last time, like, oh, who's the best fusion?
Starting point is 02:57:09 And, like, you're totally right. The one that you didn't say is the best one. Like, it's not even a contest, right? That's right. So anyway. I'm going to continue
Starting point is 02:57:17 watching the core of Season 3 because as everyone said, Season 3 is a good one. Yeah. If you want to play the game, now's the time to play it. Because it takes place in between 3 and 4.
Starting point is 02:57:25 Isn't it 2 and 3? 2 and 3. 2 and 3. 2 and 3. Not that the story is really much of anything, but if you want a two-hour fun diversion,
Starting point is 02:57:33 then it's there. Bojack is getting really real. And I like... And I like how the fucking side antics of Todd are being called out in the episodes.
Starting point is 02:57:45 Yeah. As a thing. Like, the one... Why don't you go on one of your misadventures, Todd? And it's like, where do you go from there to the point where
Starting point is 02:57:53 there's one where it's like, it's in the... it's not even in the background. No. It's referenced in single news item clips. Yeah. As it's...
Starting point is 02:58:01 As transitions into the real story happen. Yeah. It's fucking great. Yeah. Also out this week, Willie, I'm not sure if you're interested, but there's a game
Starting point is 02:58:09 called Volume by Mike Bethel, who made Thomas Was Alone. And it's a third-person top-down horror game. If I had to... Horror. Wow. Stealth.
Starting point is 02:58:19 Yeah, I know. That is not the same job. No, not at all. If I had to compare it to anything, it would be like a simplistic-looking Metal Gear Solid.
Starting point is 02:58:27 But it is like 3D proper character proportions and stuff. Looks very cool. And his last game was really good. So that's out this week. Cool.
Starting point is 02:58:35 That's it, sir. Yeah, that's it. All right. We did it. We made a podcast. It happened. High fives. No.
Starting point is 02:58:43 We do it. We do it. We do it. We do it. We do it. We do it. Thank you. Thank you.

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