Castle Super Beast - SBFC 109: Tassadar's Butthole
Episode Date: September 8, 2015Lots of Metal Gear and Until Dawn talk this week, but don't fret, it's completely spoiler free! Â ...
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Take your best guess at what number episode this is.
I'm going to say 109.
I was also going to say 109.
You just said 112.
I'll say 108, so I win on Price's right rules.
Yeah, well then I'll say one.
No, you already said 109.
You meant to split the winnings.
Actual retail price, 109.
I'm the smartest.
I said it first, but you won.
Yeah, but I thought it first.
No one can confirm that.
Not even you.
Only one best friend cares.
Now since we're in Quebec, you must answer a skill testing question to clear Price.
Go head over to the Regie.
Oh man, okay, well I need to talk about that.
There was a recent topic on NeoGap that Liam was referring to, and it's like Square Enix
wants Canadians to do math.
There was a Square Enix contest.
I can't remember for what title.
It might have been Dragon Quest Heroes, where in order to win the prize, if you're in Canada,
you have to fill out this skill testing question.
And the Americans are all like, what a good start.
So the American guy made a threat on NeoGap.
Square Enix wants Canadians to solve math to win the prizes.
And it's really like, man, Square Enix are absolutely...
So here's the thing, that's a law because games can't be purely a chance or whatever.
But my favorite part about that topic is that it was a relatively simple three operation thing.
And everyone, almost every single person in that topic got it wrong.
Almost every single person got it wrong.
Woolly Jr. had to fill out skill testing questions for the back of Cheerios and Frosted Fluxes.
I got my Nintendo Power subscription.
You learned math because you wanted to.
Way to mock this thing and then prove how necessary it is.
You're not responsible enough to win the lottery because you can't answer.
You can't do bed mass.
You know that stupid high school question?
You call it bomb-dash over here.
Wait, what's that?
Bomb-dash in French.
Bomb-dash.
I've also heard bed-mass and bed-mass.
This is so specific.
You know that stupid high school question where the kid asks,
what good is this in real life so you can win the lottery, son?
Basic math is incredibly useful.
It's always trig and algebra where people go,
what's the real life application?
And the answer is nothing.
Unless you work in a tech job.
Unless you're an architect.
What am I going to have to divide by p?
I have never had to do trig outside of class.
Because losers.
When are you going to have to divide by p if you're selling products?
You should ask Stringer Bell that.
I was literally about to say,
as long as you don't fuck up the count.
What a great example of like,
no wait, this college class is useful.
A little five-year-old, a little seven-year-old child,
how is it that you're doing terrible in school,
but you always do right when you get the count properly?
Because they fuck you up.
If you fuck up the count, they fuck you up.
Watch the wire.
109.
109.
Nothing special about that number.
No, not really.
It's embarrassing.
We have now passed one podcast per Star of Destiny.
You should look up like...
Sweet Codes.
That's accurate.
And like Chinese Mythmore.
Sweet Codes, though.
You should look up esoteric number facts for each episode.
Yeah, alright, alright.
Like is 109 a prime number?
I think it is.
Perfect, we are on the 50th prime number cast.
Welcome.
Digging for importance.
Take a seat.
The thing is, nothing is important, Matt,
so you've got to find value where it is.
That's not necessarily true.
Which is nowhere.
A lot of things are.
Because we're all going to die and it'll all be useless.
I made a new food.
Alright, I want to hear this.
I thought you were going towards a fact about 109 that I don't know.
I made a new food the other day.
I made a new food.
I made a new food.
I put peanut butter in my oatmeal and I made oatmeal peanut butter.
That is not a new food there.
It's new because that is not available where I live.
That's not how that works.
As a packaged product does not exist.
Are you implying that only packaged products are food?
They're official.
What if you make a turkey dinner?
Is that a new food?
No.
What about a banana?
No.
What if the banana is wrapped?
Is that a new food?
Nope.
What if the banana has peanut butter in the wrapping?
I made a new flavor.
No, that one's real.
If you have peanut butter in the banana peel.
That's a real.
There's no way.
No.
Yeah.
Maybe in the States.
I'm not going to lie.
Maybe in the States is the thing.
But Quaker Oats oatmeal.
I said I'm going to put some peanut butter.
Whipped.
Craft whipped peanut butter.
Because that has the consistency.
If you try to rag it with peanut butter, it will blow up.
Your hair will go on that side.
The internet is telling me that while this may not be a packaged food, it is by no means
new.
I made it.
Matt made it up himself.
All right.
We're going around the table.
We're going around the table.
Smooth or crunchy?
It depends.
It depends on what you're putting in.
Okay.
Because both can be good.
A sandwich?
Right.
I'm going to put my foot down.
A regular sandwich?
As a fascist and say smooth every day.
No.
No.
No.
Regular sandwich.
I'll put crunchy toast.
You can't put crunchy because you have to spread that way harder.
It breaks the toast and then your S.O. leaves you.
It's upsetting.
There's a time and place for both.
Weirdos.
That's the correct answer.
Yeah.
You know what the time and place for both is?
Weirdos being equalists.
You're eating out of the garbage because you're starving.
That's when the time for crunchy peanut butter is.
Anyway.
You go for that red jar and that.
I highly recommend anyone do this because it was delicious.
Well, it feels a little bland by itself.
Yeah.
This is a maple syrup flavor.
Oh, the maple and cinnamon.
So you threw in more flavor on top of the deep flavor.
It's delicious.
I don't want it any other way now.
What was the measurement?
How much peanut butter did you put in?
I put in a dollop.
A dollop?
I knew you were going to say a dollop.
I knew it.
I put in a dollop.
That's all you need.
Don't put more than that.
Don't go nuts.
What about a smidgen?
A smidgen is about the same as a dollop.
The conversion is like four smidgens to the dollop.
A smidgen is too much.
It's the size of a small pigeon worth of peanut butter.
That's what it stands for.
Small pigeon is smidgen.
So yeah, I made a new food, but let's just go straight into it.
Liam and Willie know that I started re-watching Avatar, the last airbender, because we finished
Cora.
Oh, the original.
Yeah.
And I was like, I hope you like it.
The first episode is bad.
The first like five to ten.
No, no, no.
I mean, like rough visually, the first episode is not great looking, and each subsequent
one improves.
But it's like...
That's especially rough coming from Cora.
Yeah.
But this is all foreplay, Matt.
This is all foreplay.
This is all just preparing her for the film.
So as we're watching Avatar, the last airbender, I start getting really excited because we're
getting up to like the arc and...
No, she knows that exists.
She knows the position.
She knows it's bad.
Are we going to watch it right away when the arc's over?
Good shit.
Well, I'm thinking.
No, they'll be good.
Because it should be fun.
Because that's what the first movie covers, right?
You got to do that before the wedding or she'll leave you.
Right?
Or it'll cancel, it'll hold.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm watching again, and it's just, it's still really fun.
And I'm like, it still holds up.
What the one weird stick out to me is that in Cora, I'm sure like maybe Liam and Pa will
remember, you know, like a character, like a queen or a king kind of die?
Yeah.
That's kind of off-screen.
It's not important to the...
Yeah, it's not really important.
It just happens.
It just happens.
But everyone can't say she dies.
They say she got taken out or taken down.
Sent to the other dimension.
They sent her to the other dimension.
And it happens so much where every character hears and on a radio station they go, ah,
so-and-so has been taken out.
And they go, what the fuck is this?
And then in Avatar, the show for kids, murder.
Kill.
Kill murder.
They're killed.
Murder.
Yep.
Kill murder.
Yep.
What the fuck happened?
Hey, I'm going to murder you.
Yes.
Says every villain.
Dial up that rating for some reason.
Why?
Because Cora has more vicious fighting, has people getting beaten up over there.
It has the most brutal on-screen head explosion in the entire series combined.
It actually does.
It's fucking crazy.
Why change that?
That's so weird.
I don't know.
I saw the movie for the first time like two weeks ago.
It was all worth it for The Rocks.
Oh yeah, The Rocks at first part.
I had laughed that hard in months.
That was a fucking riot.
If you haven't seen the movie, go watch it.
I relish getting to watch it with someone that has a new perspective and likes the show.
Did you own it or?
Do I own it?
Yeah.
Why would I own it?
I'll lend it to you.
Why do you own it?
Because of the mailbag.
Oh, sure.
I took it because I was like, they'll watch it eventually.
Thanks to your moment.
Thanks to whoever sent the DVD in.
The moment has come.
I also saw one of the worst horror movies I've seen in a long time.
I think one of you might remember this.
I mentioned I saw a movie with Lance Henriksen.
Yeah, I mentioned that.
And he's in it as an old guy and he's fucking old as shit.
Yeah.
It's called Paranormal Island.
And it's about two stretches of dock and two bars that are in the middle of a lake near Chicago.
They're very parallel.
It's a real place and they go, it saves so much money on shooting because there's two locations
inside the bar and on the docks.
Right, right.
And that's all the movie is and it's the most nothing.
What a scary movie.
You're playing until dawn and you see it like all the money and time it took to figure
all this shit out.
All the face tech.
All the fucking face tech.
And you see all these fucking 30 year old goobers running around and Lance Henriksen going,
get off this island.
At least the title is really creative though.
Yeah.
It should be called Ghost Place.
Ghost Place sounds like a fucking romantic comedy sitcom like Friends.
Like welcome to Ghost Place.
It's really Mother Basin Island.
Yeah, yeah.
It's not a fucking island.
There's not land.
It's a bunch of stuff on pegs on a dock.
Near Australia.
Yeah, exactly.
It was just awful, awful, awful.
If you're high, if you're with friends, watch it, but other than that.
And then video games, play Metal Gear.
Stop playing Metal Gear because I'm like, I'm not going to play Mad Max or I'm not going
to give Mad Max a chance.
That seems fine.
So I started Mad Max.
I just quit Metal Gear after we all finished our thing and I got up to that mission or
two.
Yeah.
Like Metal Gear is just, I spent way too long on Mother Base, not having anything on
Mother Base, but just looking at every sign, trying to hear every bit of dialogue I can,
beating up as many soldiers.
Thank you, boss.
Trying to get, thank you, boss.
Thank you.
Did you stand in front of the construction warning sign for a while?
No, I did not.
You should go do it.
I'm not the one that says falling objects, caution or whatever.
You've never thought about touching a puppy's paw pads?
You're missing out.
I mean, you mean the beans.
Yeah.
Can't touch the beans.
Yeah, exactly.
You touch a bean and you die.
Oh, God.
I was not ready.
I was, well, no, that's not true.
I was ready, but I kind of didn't internalize that Metal Gear Solid is now ops and not continued
narrative.
Well, what's the name of the game?
Absolutely.
It's Metal Gear Solid V.
Yeah.
It's not.
They've been very clear that it's not five the whole time.
But the big boss ops adventures is the way it's been going since Portable Ops and Peace
Walker.
Yeah.
Definitely.
Yeah.
Portable Ops is not canon.
No, but they've started this gameplay, like, game direction.
And I'm just kind of like, yeah, I'm like, yeah, that is the new Metal Gear Solid now.
And I feel like it's just different.
It's not worse.
But it does have a thing where the continued narrative where you just go deeper and deeper
into that fucked up plot never gives you a chance to breathe.
And that's good in some ways, because you kind of get this tension that keeps going
as the mission prolongs, whereas here you get to go in and out of these ops, take a
breather.
Yeah.
Literally go chill in other places.
But at the expense of, like, some tension.
Four lets you chill, like, every now and again.
It's really one, two, and three that they keep it going.
It just lets you chill because the open areas are, like, really large and not in, you're
not in the shit yet.
And also the mid-chapter stuff is, like, clear gap, like.
But yeah.
Yeah.
But you know that once you go through that door, like, it's going to keep going.
When I think about four, when I think about, like, the visual language of what it looks
like, I think of long conversations in their little hideout.
Yeah.
Like, what was it called?
Oh.
The ship?
Or whatever?
The plane?
Yeah.
I can't remember.
Yeah.
I think all I can, when I think about it, I don't even think about the addition set-up.
Liam's about to throw down some kind of warning.
Can I just put this out there?
We're not going to do any spoilers for MGSV.
No.
Nothing.
No spoilers for that?
Absolutely not.
I'm not going to do any of that.
Can I nitpick on something?
I don't know how much of a negative Nancy this is, or how it's just that I'm bitter,
or whatever.
It's, you said something where it's like, oh, that's what Metal Gear Solid is now.
Yes.
For this one game, because it's over now.
Like that hurts.
That stings.
It sucks.
Yeah.
Like, it's-
Well, we're going to get more.
Yeah.
Just like we got more Silent Hills.
I know.
Yeah.
I know.
But it's just like, oh, I wish we got less.
Portable Pops and Peace Walker.
In my head, I kind of always went, well, those are on portable consoles, so it makes sense
why they did that.
Yeah.
It made more sense.
Because for portable play, you want quick missions that you can start and end.
And then Ground Zeroes, I kind of said, oh, well, it's a small initial demo.
Yeah.
There's only one map.
It can't possibly be.
Yeah.
So that makes sense.
But then it was like, OK, no, wait.
The full Giant Experience is also hops.
Yeah.
But they're just big hops.
They're big hops.
And again, it's not a weaker story.
It's just I'm used to clenching my butthole for much longer.
I really like it because it pushes you to do a variety of things rather than just stick
to your guns the whole way through the game.
You know what I mean?
I found whenever I played one through four, I wasn't the type to restart if I got caught,
as I know some people are.
But I would always play at Ultra Stealth, never use any lethal weapons, never use anything
like that.
And in Phantom Pain and Ground Zeroes, now that I've played it, well, I've played Ground
Zeroes a ton.
And now I kind of know it's not about that.
It's about pick what's right for the job.
You know what I mean?
No.
And it really emphasizes being able to, or forcing the player to switch.
My version of Snake is totally in solid and Big Boss is the guy that goes in, gets the
job done, and doesn't kill anybody.
So we talk about that in one of the later parts that's not up yet, and it's like that
always struck me as odd because you get the Big Boss ranking for no fatalities.
And people would say, well, that's the canon way.
That's like Big Boss was so great that he would never kill anybody.
I think that Phantom Pain is like trying to, like, sucker punch that.
It's like, no.
Big Boss and Snake and all these dudes killed a lot of people in these missions.
This mission is all about the wet work.
But then they go back on that a little bit and go, you got to go kill these dudes.
They're really, really a problem.
But it's a shame to put those skills to waste.
And you go, ah, you want me to falten them.
You want to put them back to the clubhouse.
You know, so it's like, yeah, it's about the wet work, but maybe not.
Yeah, but you know.
It's about doing what you think is right, which can still be a non-lethal play through.
Which can be fun work.
You can do every Metal Gear game, you can do every Metal Gear game, not killing anyone
that's not a boss.
But all my early rankings for one, two, and three were always like Crocodile and shit.
Elephant.
I forget one.
Stealthy, but like, I killed.
No, you got Elephant.
I killed every single person I came across.
Stealthily, I never got caught, but they were all dead and that's how they couldn't
see me.
Now I'm destined to be an Octopus for a while, you know, like that's what it is.
Sorry, go ahead.
I was going to say really quickly, because we all want to talk about Metal Gear a little
bit.
But yeah, I'm playing Mad Max now and I like it.
I actually like it quite a bit and it nails the world.
But I think I was telling other Willi or someone that it's kind of weird and that it feels
like a hollow quest.
The quest is that Max is crazy and he wants to go to a place that the game tells the player
does not exist early on, like in the first two minutes.
So what am I doing this for, precisely?
Well, it'll be super crazy when you actually go there.
I'm not the thing, because I'm kind of interested to see what happens to you.
You put a checkpoint marker on the map, not on the map, but on your vision on the screen,
which you can just never get to it, because it's not real.
It moves every now and again.
But I'm something enjoying it, because there's lots of dumb stuff that happens.
Like the open world is active enough, especially where I am now, where like I'm talking to
an NPC and the lightning storm from Fury Road happens in the mid, because when you talk
to NPCs, the world is constantly active.
It doesn't stop.
And things just happen.
So I remember one time I was talking to an NPC and a car crashed through us and killed
the NPC.
I was fine, because Max seems like he's locked in.
And when I finished talking to the NPC and he's just giving me intel about an area, a
bolt of lightning shot down and blew him up.
And I, as Max said, I should get in my car now and drive out of this lightning storm.
That NPC died historic.
And I like that type of stuff.
They're kind of technically bugs, I guess.
I played it for another maybe hour and a half after the tutorial section, kind of, after
you get in that first initial area.
And I feel like everything other than Max feels like a Mad Max thing.
But then the actual story and the presentation to the user doesn't feel like a Mad Max movie.
You know what I mean?
All the characters feel like all the characters would be.
Does it feel...?
But it just doesn't have that same pacing as a Mad Max movie.
It's hard when you're making a, let's say, 15-20 hour whole game.
It's a difficult thing to balance, but I think the one thing that bothers me is that Max is
not an interesting character per se.
He's an interesting character when you place other characters around him and you see their
interactions.
Max is a cipher for the fucked up world.
And the character that you have helping you is not interesting of himself either.
He's just the crazy mechanic guy.
But you need like a Furiosa or a Tina Turner.
You need some other charismatic person around him a lot to get more out of the conversations
because Mad Max can't operate with a Mad Max.
Mad Max needs a black dude behind him with a boombox just hyping it up.
Or at least a person with black on their face.
If you want a hip hop black dude warrior, is that what you're saying?
There is a dude warrior variant in there.
You can see the just cause more than the shadow of Mordor overlaid on top of it.
The only thing that's interesting is that the combat is just Mordor Brothers.
But I actually really like the combat.
It's remember what you guys said about Mordor, it's like oh my god the Batman fighting system
is so great when it's not Batman because you can kill people and it makes a big difference.
And in this you kill people too, I shotgun them to death in the little combos and I really
enjoy it.
I don't like the combat in Mad Max until you get into Fury mode and then it becomes really
satisfying.
Like his moveset changes and it's just really like you know in Shadow of Mordor where you're
like literally just stabbing people through the neck and just visceral murder, well Max
starts with pretty regular brawling and then when he gets into Fury mode he unlocks the
scrap dunk.
He unlocks the scrap dunk, suplexes and drop kicks and then if you get the weapon, he starts
jamming shivs into the ice stomach and stuff.
And that's where it gets like yeah you're right, that's where it kind of gets more fun.
And there's little features here and there like remember you said how wow if you're a
combo Fury meter, like if you finish and you still have some left in the tank it stays
there so that it continues the next time you fight.
Yeah like you don't go out to war where you activate rage or whatever and then you finish
all the enemies off and you just watch it deplete.
In this game, hey there's no enemies around, let's stop that depletion, fucking like it's
a no-brainer feature.
Because that always would make you not want to use it for anything but bosses.
Exactly.
And I did actually have a boss fight against a huge ahokudo style guy with the gimp mask
and leather shoulder pads with spikes coming out of him and he had a war hammer and his
name was like something where guards come or something and he's just like and then you
beat him and the bosses have paint for your car.
Oh that's cool.
So every boss you beat, they're called the top dogs, each one you go do you want to
go for this guy?
This guy has the camo paint for your car.
Is your cars harder to see, therefore you draw less aggro when you draw less aggro.
Do you ever beat one and then he shows up later and he's like no you didn't beat me?
No, when Max finishes them off they can't come back.
So yeah, I'm enjoying it but I keep wanting to go back to Metal Gear because clearly it's
the more polished, more interesting game but it's going to do a disservice to the money
I spent on Mad Max if I try to play it later.
Don't do the thing where you try and play both and end up playing neither.
I think we all saw the reviews from Mad Max and how they, there was like two fives, generally
they were all more towards sevens and eights.
It's a fast link spread.
It landed somewhere in the 70s on Metacritic and yeah, there were some nice as well.
It is a video game representation of a bell curve, I think people are looking for different
things.
Yeah, clearly you know.
But I definitely see it playing the game, it's not perfect, it's really not perfect.
I think putting it on a lot of points.
Metal Gear probably.
And you saw it's one of those games in which it's strengths and weaknesses like dramatically
affect your mileage depending on how they appeal.
You know what, it should have come out, it should have come out a week after Fury Road.
My type level would have been way worse.
Maybe, maybe.
They still needed time to shoehorn all this Fury Road stuff.
Well I was going to say there could be a metric for faithfulness that you can apply to this
you know that some other games could use and it's like.
I would love to use that metric on everything.
I agree.
Faithfulness.
Good ol' Xana.
Xana was it?
Xamdam.
Xamdam.
Xamdam.
You remember that fucking Xamdam?
I remember Xamdam.
Xamdam.
I remember quite well.
Actually that story never got told.
Because it's in lost footage now.
I mean yeah, you're right.
You're right.
Fucking, so we're at PAX Prime right?
No, you mentioned this on the last podcast.
Did I?
Did I?
Did I?
Did I?
Yeah, absolutely.
Xamdam.
Xamdam.
It's still good.
There'll never be another game as clean as that.
That was my week.
So.
Liam, you playing any Xamdam?
Like I said, I played a little bit of Xamdam a couple hours and it's good.
It's good.
It's not great.
It's good.
I am enjoying it.
Probably if you like it as good as Shadow of Mordor, if you don't like it, you'll hate
it.
Okay.
Because I had a friend that played Shadow of Mordor and he was watching me play and
he was like, no, it seems really good.
I think I'll pick this up.
I think I'll pick this up.
Yeah.
And he loves Mordor and Batman.
He's in that same ballpark, for sure, and the car handles way better than the Batmobile
so in after me.
Yeah.
I think I like Shadow of Mordor better in the end actually.
I think Shadow of Mordor is amazing, so I'm not surprised.
It's fucking fantastic.
Yeah.
Have you been playing any Metal Gear?
Other than that, I've been playing Metal Gear a lot.
So like for the playthrough, me and Pat are doing all the story missions together.
All the required like 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8.
Then I'm just going back and replaying the missions and doing all the side ops and stuff
and like if ever, it hasn't happened yet, but if ever a cutscene were to happen or some
important thing were to happen, yeah, just quit immediately, download the old save data.
Just don't do that.
Thanks, PlayStation Plus.
Exactly.
So I'm having an absolute blast playing it.
I'm like very close to 30 hours and it's despite we're not even 10 missions.
Is there anything like that feeling of like, oh fuck, oh fuck, where now?
Where do I off?
Sandstorm approaching.
Yeah.
Yeah, no.
And you just fucking, oh, this sandstorm really could make missions go along and just move
like a ghost.
No, I remember there was one mission where I was extracting someone and right as I grabbed
him and stepped out of the building, like a sandstorm just kicked up and I was like,
yeah, perfect.
Yeah.
Perfect.
Satisfied.
Super, super good game.
Just builds on everything Ground Zero's did.
So polished.
I had to change some control settings because they were different from Ground Zero's and
I needed to get them back to where I liked them.
Like you know when you use the menu to like call your buddies or knock or whatever?
I had to change that back to like release the button to activate instead of press R3.
Yeah, I don't like that.
That wasn't how it was in Ground Zero's and I was like, shit, I like the release better.
Was sprinting always just click or was it whole?
Yes, it was always just click.
You just held it the whole time for nothing.
The one thing that I fucking wish I could add is a stop the cassette player right now
button.
At any time.
Yeah, I don't think there's really a way, unfortunately, not that I don't know.
Hold that full control.
Hold back.
Exactly.
To just stop the cassette right away.
There's no back button on that controller.
Whatever.
On a 360 pad there is.
On mine there is.
Are you playing on the Xbox?
Yeah.
Okay, then yes.
You know, hold your select button replacement and press a thing to stop and start your cassette
where you were.
Yeah.
No, that wouldn't be a bad feature.
Have you been paying attention like thoroughly to your recruitment placement and stuff like
that?
Because I found that like now that it's opened up for me and it's like you can place people
in their right, you know, departments and stuff, you auto assign everything.
The auto assign is too powerful.
There's no need to pay attention.
There's only the one thing that you were talking about which is the trouble makers.
The only thing to pay attention for is trouble makers.
What's the line?
Not people who go to the brig.
Shit-disturbers.
People whose active skill is troublemaker or like where they don't.
Where they cause PDSD to people around them.
This is Miller's decision.
But if you want to change it, boss.
Yeah, well, guess what?
Miller got really good running the ship now that he's a little...
His skill is Mother Base XO, so I would hope so.
Now that he's a little chained down.
But if you ignore everything as you get new areas, then they don't go to the bright place,
you know, so you do have to go refresh that.
Just tell Miller to handle it every day.
If you want to take a look at the faces of your dudes.
I'm pretty sure they automatically dump them as soon as you get a new...
They didn't.
They didn't.
I had to auto assign.
I know for the combat one, they don't.
For the combat one specifically, they don't because those people can die and so you have
to put people into the combat.
You have to make an active decision that I could lose this guy.
But for the other ones, I'm pretty sure they auto fill the medical one.
I find that the stuff where you're sending dudes off on missions and what not is like,
you know, it's Assassin's Creed, so I'm used to that sort of thing, you know what I mean?
Well, it's the Spocker.
Yeah, yeah, you're right.
No, you're right.
You're right.
You're right.
It was there, wasn't it?
Yeah, it was.
And you know, so that's there.
And I'm like, okay, I'm used to this and what not.
But yeah, the actual resource menu placing guys in places, I was just getting too overwhelmed
by it.
I only ever go in there like after a couple missions to get rid of shit-disturbers just
out of my base.
Out of my base.
You're causing trouble, you.
Walk the plank unless you've got like an A plus and something.
Then you'll think about it.
Exactly.
But you'll still probably.
I think I've got two guys who have A pluses and stuff and like, it's not even the highest,
but I'm keeping them because they're.
And I saw the thing that's like, okay, if you put somebody on a contract, they can never
get stolen.
Right?
I'm pretty sure.
Yeah, because they're never.
They're not on the base.
So then like.
Or there's a way.
There's, I don't know if it's on contract, but there's a way to keep them protected.
Well, they won't defend your base.
They're not walking around.
They're working.
They can't get stolen because they're not out.
Gotcha.
Okay, okay.
Yeah, exactly.
Understood.
But I haven't had any FOB invasions.
Or not there yet.
But yeah, then again, I don't have an FOB yet.
So.
By the time we get to the FOB, you will likely be so GMPed up that your FOB will be very
strong.
And then we've recorded up to admission nine.
Yeah.
I believe.
Yeah.
So like having an absolute blast game is amazing.
Games are good.
It's awesome to just, to just have it.
I, I thought.
And see it be as good as it is.
I like how there's, how they're adding pictures to the helicopter, but as you surround, surrounding
him.
Yeah.
But it sucks that you can't turn your head to the left or right when you have control
of them to see them.
You know what I'm talking about in the helicopter when you are about to get off.
It goes, it goes first person for a second and you can look around, but there's nothing
to look at.
Well, when you're just sitting in the menu, you can go in the first person and look at
them.
In your, in your command center?
Yeah.
Can you?
Yeah, totally.
Well, shit.
Yeah.
Like probably the.
I think you just hit R3 or whatever.
No, I can't remember.
Maybe R1.
The weirdest thing about the game is I thought that the LP was going to be like heavy rain,
but it's not.
It's like dark souls.
Yeah.
Like those, those cutscenes are sparse, man.
Yeah.
It's like dark souls with no deaths with no deaths except the two deaths that you had.
Yeah, I know it.
To the bear because I went to fight the bear with my hands and gravity.
That was dumb.
You still died.
So did you know?
How did you know?
Getting out of the hospital.
Yeah.
That's great.
No, I know.
Yeah.
Well, that wasn't even starting the LP.
No.
That's the same.
Are you trying to shame me?
Like I don't know.
You said no deaths and did the double guns.
It was a joke.
Like I know I died twice.
Three times.
It was a joke at dark souls.
You know what's weird?
I died exact same place in the hospital and I was like, oh, you died.
Yeah.
And I just couldn't avoid it.
No, he didn't.
They didn't lock to cover when I tried to go do it.
No, I just, the timing was off or something.
I just crushed up.
The other death was, it was, it was fall damage, right?
But what it was, was I was on D horse and I took a jump.
Pat says it was 80 feet, but that's a bold faced lie.
Because you don't know what 80 feet looks like.
It was really high.
It was not 80 feet.
It was clearly lethal.
It was clearly lethal.
80 feet is like a skyscraper.
That's not true.
A football field.
Hey, you're from, you're from a place in which buildings don't go over one story.
Don't tell me what, like...
A story is like what, 12 feet or something?
Did you jump?
Did you jump?
We just covered this.
Don't say things if you're gonna get them wrong.
But like it was like a 30 foot drop, right?
And like I was on D horse and I was like, maybe I can take this.
And what happened was we jumped off and then Snake died from fall damage.
And D horse was fine.
On D horse and D horse was fine.
My expected result was D horse got the hit.
Die, yeah.
You know when he gets hit?
He falls over.
I was expecting that, but instead she took the fall damage on D horse and I was like...
D horse sacrificed you.
Shit.
Yeah, exactly.
Does he slump over on the horse?
Yeah.
Well no, he falls back and just takes the fall.
It's not very pretty looking.
Okay.
And D horse does nothing.
Yeah.
D horse doesn't care.
He just defecates on your body as well.
Yeah, exactly.
But like we're getting a lot of messages from people saying like, oh the grind's gonna
be tough.
Like no, it's not.
I would leave him.
The grind is like way, way...
And hell when I play it for myself, I'm probably gonna play it the same way.
I love doing all that side shit.
Yeah.
No, it's a blast.
No, but I guess...
Have you done the side-out for...
Yeah, you did for rescuing a mother-based soldier?
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But Pat doesn't know about it yet.
I don't know.
I got the second one to do with him.
Cool.
But...
Yeah, let me set an end.
No spoilers or anything.
I just want to put out there that I'm waiting for a full reveal, but I don't like what happened
in the medical bay.
No, I don't like it either.
It's bullshit.
I don't like it.
I don't like it.
But I remember until we see something...
We need more info.
We need more info.
It's bullshit until I'm resold on it.
Yeah.
Set bug to NMI.
I never just liked that thing in the first place.
I haven't seen this yet.
So I know there's a thing with head blood.
Good game.
You know, if I could complain about anything, is that like, I thought I would get over it.
I hate Kiefer's voice.
I don't think it adds anything.
That's fair.
I am ambivalent.
Yeah.
I've gotten used to it.
I would rather have...
No question.
It's like, I want Hater.
I wanted Richard Doyle.
I would absolutely prefer it.
That's still fine, but I probably still would have...
Like, I don't know what the...
Like, we don't even know why the real reason why.
No.
Because so it just...
Well, we probably never will.
Probably never will.
But I miss it sorely.
I do.
No, it is a sore point on that note, but on a talent level, Kiefer's doing the job.
It's not like he's bad, but it's just...
If you were gonna...
Your voice is nothing to me.
I imagine picking Kiefer was like, it was a publicity thing.
And I imagine like that combined with getting Norman Reedus was like Konami saying we'd like to get our games.
Push that direction.
Yeah.
Well, get our...
Just like it's advertising material.
That's just a guess, so I don't know.
That's two things, though.
Exactly.
That's two at the same time.
I think that's probably not a coincidence.
And are they also not in your...
Any video games, any movies, any funny stories?
Not really.
I started playing Steins Gate because that just came out on PS3 and Vita.
It's a blast.
Willie, I think you love Steins Gate.
It's great.
It's a total blast.
Okay.
It's a good visual novel.
It's good.
It's a visual novel.
Not gonna spoil anything.
Very good.
It's gameplay.
Fairly.
It's visual novel.
Exactly.
As much gameplay as you'd get in Danganronpa.
It's a Steins Gate visual novel.
That's what it is?
That's what Steins Gate is.
It's a visual novel.
Yeah, exactly.
There is an anime, but it's an adaptation.
Oh, because the first time you talked to me about it, it was about the end.
Right.
Yeah.
I assume that was a few years ago.
No, no, no.
I just saw that first.
Yeah.
Sorry if that's unclear.
But yeah, I think you'd really like it.
The game's really good.
Very easy to spoil, so I'm gonna make that one.
Go play that game.
Game of the Year, Metal Gear.
Okay.
Everything's the game of the year while we've been playing it.
Bloodborne's the game of the generation, but Metal Gear's the game of the year.
Fuck it.
Wait, why is Bloodborne the game of the generation?
Because you say that so I don't know.
I never said that once.
I said Candidate 4.
And I will put MGS 5 in that category as well.
And I will surely book Persona 5 and Street Fighter in that category, too.
I feel like you can't have this discussion.
Your politics are muddled, Liam.
Your politics are muddled.
I think it's easy to spy.
Like, I think it's easy to spy a candidate when you know how much you love the game.
And you're like, yeah, that's gonna be in the pile.
I know, but you're right.
But it still feels premature.
Someone said 2015 is the new 1998.
I don't think that's right just yet.
If Street Fighter came out this year, then yes.
Then it would be right.
Yeah, because it's, yeah, Bloodborne...
Well, we'll see how Persona 5 turns out.
...and Metal Gear and Persona.
You know what?
It's not...
All those super years, they all have three games.
Three bigs.
And they're different genres.
Yeah.
And there's surely a big PC game that we've just forgotten.
No, like some just PC games.
Oh, some obscure thing that nobody knows about.
Starcraft II, Protoss.
The Heart of the Protoss.
The Heart of the Protoss.
Dark Archon, Heart.
Yeah, there you go.
That's what it was about.
Exactly.
Answer the voice.
I don't know.
That is what it's called.
It is what it is.
I just made that up.
We did it.
We did it.
It's something to do with the voice.
Where's the Liberty, Heart of the Swarm, and Legacy of the Void?
Legacy of the Void.
That's it.
Yeah, Starcraft.
It's still ongoing.
We love you.
I love you, Starcraft.
I played when my Starcraft had those single-player campaigns all come out in the first game like
they're supposed to.
Because holy shit, am I over it now?
Starcraft's awesome.
It is.
I love Starcraft.
I love Groot Wars.
I got hype once Starcraft II got announced and I have no excuse.
Starcraft and Groot Wars.
Yeah, all of it.
I think so.
I just have no excuse for trying to.
Separating them like this was a huge mistake.
Yeah.
But again, I can't even pretend that I even bought two when I first came out.
No, neither.
I just did it.
I remember when the Beta I was coming out and I got in the Beta and I played a few matches
against the CPU with like, I remember there was a hack so you could play against like
no AI.
Yeah, that's right.
Because it was multi-player.
I did some QA on it.
Sure, yeah.
But that was the experience.
That was it, yeah.
I bought Moon's of Liberty when I came out and never touched a multi-player.
I played those single-player missions that had a lot of fun and just came away going,
God damn it, the Terrans are my least favorite of the fucking races.
When they're all out, I'm going to.
My favorites go like Protoss, Zerg, Terran.
So I got like in the worst position.
For me, Protoss serves the bottom of the barrel.
For me, Protoss and Terran are more or less tied.
I was always Protoss waiting for Zell Naga.
Yeah.
But I think it's been like, it's been fucking a decade since I've touched the Blizzard game.
Of course, of course.
Do you think you can still dedicate your life to Iron?
Exactly.
Thus I serve.
You know what?
I could not play a Starcraft game ever and I'll be fine as long as you give me a sound board.
And I'll be bored.
As long as I can have every unit talk, I'm good.
I don't need to actually play it.
I agree, I agree.
Sadly, I don't want to say that.
What was the last Blizzard game you played?
Me?
Diablo III and PS4.
And I played a lot of it because that got the PC version of that game when it originally came out.
It's like a far fucking cry from the console version they put out.
How about you?
It might have been Starcraft.
Root Wars.
Root Wars.
Honestly, didn't play World of Warcraft III.
I played Warcraft III for a little bit.
I played a bit of Hearthstone, but I didn't really get it.
Oh, Hearthstone then.
You didn't really get it to it, but I guess I did play it.
But before that, the only Blizzard games I've missed in the modern era are the two Starcraft II expansions.
And that one unofficial Diablo I expansion, Hearthfire.
What about Hots?
Hots?
Is that even a game?
Is that even in beta still?
I mean, it's publicly beta.
I guess.
No Hots.
If you would have wanted it, you would have got it.
Yeah, it's a weird thing for us because it's not a qualitative issue.
The 3Bs.
The games are good.
Well, Overstrike looks great.
I want to play Overstrike.
I think we all just prioritized our stuff.
I think it looks alright.
3Bs.
3Bs.
Yeah.
Wow, our Bethesda.
Those are 3Bs, man.
You remember that conversation?
Yeah.
It's a story of him dying by the 3Bs.
That's so good.
Oh man, that's a moment where I'm just like...
How was your week, Pat?
Oh, well my week started off super terrible because my PC started randomly disconnecting
USB devices during recording.
It addressed me out, too.
We had a situation recording.
We had recorded maybe 10 minutes of until dawn and then we heard a USB disconnect noise
only to switch the input back to my PC to watch Elgato begin crashing
and then see my computer blue screen restart and erase all of everything.
So that had happened before I went to PAX and I thought it was a fluke and then it happened afterwards
and I could not troubleshoot the problem.
I could not figure it out.
I will have to bring my PC into the shop.
So no footage lost, thank God.
But no, we lost like five minutes.
So nothing.
Yeah.
And you wouldn't even notice it because we just re-recorded it, that's fine.
But I need to work, especially Metal Gear was happening.
Metal Gear was happening the very next day.
So it's like I went out and got a laptop and I asked the internet.
I went and looked at the Future Shop website.
Sorry, Best Buy, Future Shop.
And looked at a laptop.
It was like that's expensive, but that's the one I would pick.
And then I asked two different friends of mine.
Once it was nothing worse than a cheap laptop.
Then I asked two different friends of mine to use that list.
I used Mike and a friend of mine, Dan, Mike Zero Dude.
I was like look at this list and tell me what laptop.
And then I asked Twitter and everyone including me came back with the same laptop out of that list.
I got an ASUS like a G751.
And it's really good.
And it's a really good laptop that I'm very happy with.
It's almost as strong as my desktop.
And it's actually like having a laptop for work purposes is fantastic.
I should have had one long time ago.
Because you can bring it.
Because I can just render at night and still play games.
And I can just let it make it do stuff.
And we can just look at the screen without having to change info.
That's true.
It's recording.
Free USB slots.
Yeah, tons of free USB slots.
A couple notes about laptops.
Battery life is bad on powerful laptops.
Yeah.
Boy, Windows 8 is atrocious.
I hate it.
How's the ventilation in your laptop?
It's great.
It shoots all the back.
Does it get hot?
No, it gets hot on the back in the vents.
Okay.
But not on the lap part.
That's fair.
ASUS is supposed to be good for that.
ASUS is solid.
They have been cooling.
8.1 Windows.
Holy shit.
What an improvement that is.
Yeah.
Because you can just turn all that fucking Metro shit off.
Almost all of it.
Holy Christ.
I cannot imagine.
That one's actually pretty good.
I can't imagine how fucking bad you would have felt if you had upgraded to 8 right away
and then stuck with that fucking Metro no desktop shit.
Yeah.
Holy Christ.
8.1, you get start menu classic.
You're settled.
Even just turning off all the Metro stuff?
It's fine.
Even that is fine.
It's actually fine.
So I might now update to 10 on that machine because why would stopping me?
I still use the Metro shit because I find it handy to just hit the Windows key and have
all my main programs.
I have it set so that when I hit the Windows key it gives me a Metro style thing but it's
all a program list like the old start menu.
So it's better than the old one but it's still not quite all the way in Metro.
I think I'll just like if you're still saying it's praises I'll just get one that has Windows
10.
You can't.
What do you mean?
They're all Windows 8.1 with Windows 10 upgrades.
Well at some point I'd imagine 10 would be a default.
Maybe in a couple months.
It's a default now.
It's free for the next version of 10.
It's service pack one's coming out in or whatever the fuck the new name is.
Service pack one.
It's coming out in like November.
But you can't get rid of those prompts telling you hey, hey, hey.
Your upgrades are ready.
Hey, hey.
That's fine.
It's not that big of a deal.
It happens like once every couple days.
Yeah.
It's happened on my computer once every few days.
It's fine.
The free take one's way more annoying.
I'm excited for 10 to get its first service pack so I can just do it because I want it.
So I did stream my Xbox to my Disney.
I did that.
I've been chipping old TV, TV, TV.
Cause.
Yeah.
I've been chipping away at Witcher and FF14.
Nothing new of note there.
And I started rewatching Monster with the dub.
How is the dub?
It's slightly stilted as all dubs are.
Is it JoJo like where they do accents?
No.
Okay.
What a shame.
They will, they will pronounce like Ava's name will be, they will say in English, Ava
Heinemann.
Lechwein.
Not that, not that much.
Okay.
Not that much.
It's mostly Englishified.
There, there's only, there's slightly stilted sometimes when the looping gets tough cause
the dialogue doesn't match.
You know, it's something like that.
Where's your German ass names?
The biggest problem with the Monster dub is the casting, while fantastic, is too familiar
to me.
Tenma is played by Liam O'Brien.
Ava is played by the voice actress who does Mitsuru.
And that's ending up coming off as a problem.
So the beginning, the beginning of the thing is Mitsuru and he goes to fail marriage.
Yeah.
And Nina is being played by Nanako's voice actress.
That's fucking weird.
And I can hear like the eight year old child voice in there.
Yeah.
And like the guy who plays Seth in Street Fighter and Dr. Kaufman, that guy.
He is all over the place as multiple characters.
He seems like he would be the type of voice they would use for Monster.
Other than that, it's great.
It's just literally like just too familiar.
Or who plays a fucking dude.
Johan?
Yeah.
Don't recognize it.
Okay.
It might be Yuri Longfall doing like a creepy voice, but I'm not sure.
I also forgot to talk about it last week.
And you reminded me, Willie.
Good job.
Thank you.
I bit the bullet and just watched all of Rick and Morty.
Rickandmorty.com.
100 years, Rick and Morty.
Always, Rick and Morty.
Forever and ever, Rick and Morty.
Going adventures.
Dot com adventures, Rick and Morty.
Forever and ever, Rick and Morty.
Going adventures.
Dot com adventures, Rick and Morty.
Forever and ever, Rick and Morty.
That is...
So you know who watch shows like Adventure Times TV or something and be like, this can be for
kids, but I don't actually feel like it's aimed at kids.
Rick and Morty is not.
Rick and Morty is not.
I don't think Rick and Morty is even aimed at adults.
I don't know.
There's that episode where they turn everyone into Kronenbergs.
Yeah.
Holy goddamn shit.
It's all late at night at Cartoon.
There is some of the most brutal body horror, but also mental, like implicit horror things
have ever seen in anything, and it is the funniest show I have seen like in years.
I've only seen like five episodes, but it's really strong.
It is amazing.
The laughs blow a lot of other things out of the water.
The most common laugh is the laugh in which I'm recoiling into my chair, in which I'm
like giggling but trying to stifle it because I'm scared of the show.
What happens?
It's fucking awesome.
I can't even sing it's praises hard enough.
It's fucking amazing.
And I thought I had something else that I wanted to talk about this week, and now I
remember what it was.
So I watched this show, this in new anime that came out.
It's about a guy who punches people once.
Yeah, I heard about that.
I heard.
Yeah.
It's like one kick guy.
Yeah.
It's about singular fist strike boy.
You watched it raw?
What?
No.
It's a speed sub.
It's a speed sub, I guess.
Yeah, it's a speed sub done by somebody on our subreddit.
Oh.
No, I want a good sub.
Well, it's only missing like one minute, a little like one scene, and it's pretty decent.
The money that has been thrown in the first episode.
Because I remember seeing those animatics, those flip book gifts of manga panels.
We're talking about one punch man.
No, shut up.
You're ruining it.
And you guys were worried.
Adult aim.
They're never going to spend that much money.
Well, the question is, will it keep up?
Because it happens where an anime show's budget, well, they will have spent a bunch of it at the beginning.
Yeah, you're worried about an attack on Titan's situation.
Yeah, not just an attack, but a lot of other anime have done that.
Do we know if this is 13 or 26?
I don't know, actually.
You'll probably find that on search.
How many cores there are.
Oh, that's good shit.
Yeah, I saw the trailer for it.
But like that first battle with the Subterranean is like movie quality.
So I still feel like it needs twice as many frames to do the art justice.
I need to know.
It looks, no, but like you haven't, did you see the 14 straight double spreads in that one book?
I did.
Like it's impossible to understand.
I think this is the most, like this is the best realistic scenario possible.
Yeah, I know.
Realistically?
Yes, absolutely.
How is Saitama's voice?
It's great.
All right.
Super good.
Good.
I love his wildly varying art style.
Yeah.
That's where half the amusement comes in.
Dead serious when you're saying dumb shit, super goofy when it's getting serious.
Immediately prior to watching it, I stopped Preview 3, the trailer for it, which included
a huge list of characters.
Yeah.
Rank one is highest, right?
In this, in this.
As far as we know.
So like rank 13 guys and as good as rank 5 guy.
As far as we know.
Um, yo, License List Rider is what I need.
He's not in that first episode.
I think he's in the second.
But holy shit.
Rank one, License List Rider.
Yeah man.
Good shit.
I need that.
I need that.
Fucking License List Rider.
Steel Batman.
Steel Batman.
Like there's some good ones.
What is like super black luster?
Super black luster.
Uh, tank top.
Pig God.
Tank top master.
Master master master.
Yeah, exactly.
Puri Puri prisoner.
Yeah.
Like all the warriors.
All the warriors.
Uh, yeah, I'm glad I waited for it to be animated because this animation is so worth it.
You should look at the bag of two because the art is like, like, I watched the trailer
and I can't wait to watch the anime.
But the manga's art is irreplaceable.
I have seen the many of the animatics of the fucking books.
Oh, but they don't cover the, like everything.
I know, but like, come on.
Just, no, just read the manga.
The art isn't really that good.
If you want to know what happens, then just read the manga.
I will, I will likely never do that though.
I appreciate it.
Oh, that's summer, man.
And it's, it's like, it's something like, because he's like, I don't care about page
count and make this moment last.
Yeah.
It's, it's like something you're not going to get in a random shounen, you know, where
they're got like, they're growing 13, 13 pages per week or whatever.
Like it's fucking just being as, as hot as it wants.
I just, I just want, like, Saitama's great, but like, knowing nothing about one punch
man, like I'm just like, put Genos on the screen.
Put, put, put anime Adam Jensen into my story as fast as possible.
Yeah.
I thought that flashback was about Genos for the longest time because they looked so similar
in design.
Right.
And then it's like, oh no, it's, he went bald.
No, he just went bald, man.
I don't get it.
That doesn't really make a lot of sense.
That training regiment, which, that training regiment will do that to you, you know?
We're not going to spoil it.
I don't want to spoil it, but that training regiment is intense and that'll fucking
make you bald.
It has to be that intense.
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yourselves in the past, is that loot crate gives you a crate full of stuff and you don't
know what you're getting in there, but we know that this month is going to be all stuff
related to bringing in things from other realms.
Okay, that's cool.
That's cool.
Right?
It's like it's not like the heroes or villains.
It's a different, more specific topic.
And I think there's some wiggle room in there.
And you just get a bunch of cool stuff.
Summon related things.
Damn.
That's really cool.
But the summon a box like this, it must cost an arm and a leg.
I see what you did there.
No.
Dude, you're getting over 40 bucks worth of geek gear, gamer pop culture stuff, all that,
and summoning tools in a box.
In a single crate.
Way less than that.
And if you go to lootcrate.com slash super best, use the promo code super best and you
get three bucks off of that already low price.
Wow.
With a summoning ritual that simple, even an acolyte could do it.
If you're an arcade operator, you can summon up hot profits for this summer.
Yes, an arcade operator.
Yes, absolutely.
They ship to over 13 countries.
They've got a monthly thing where if you sign up at 9 p.m. pacific on the 19th, you can
get in on this summoning party.
It's going to be a good time.
So you're summoning it through the mail, and then once you achieve this summoning ritual
via postman, you then have more summoning gear to summon more shit.
Exactly.
And effectively this is a summon for 12 things.
It's insane.
This is much better than what we usually get, which is usually a piece of paper to our doors
that has summons to us to appear in court.
That's not a good summon.
There are things that we've done.
We don't like that summon.
That's bad.
You want the summon that is like drag me to hell, but in reverse.
Hell opens up in front of your gate and gives you cool shit.
Push me to heaven.
I thought you meant like push me to heaven.
That's where my brain went.
No, no, no.
The hands reach out of the earth and they hand you a cool t-shirt.
You're like, it's my size.
That's great.
Last time I tried to summon something like that, all I got was a box of hot dogs.
Yeah.
In a box.
In a box.
You're really pushing that anyway.
That's somewhat threatening, isn't it?
Yeah.
I'm telling you what though, in this month you're going to get stuff there.
There's some little hints and peeks.
We've got some blizzard stuff in there and kid robot stuff.
Okay.
So that's a cool one.
Kid robot, like already that's actually legit.
That's legit, legit.
A few thumbs up there.
Summon a nuke.
I don't think that's likely.
I don't think that one's going to be in there.
That might not be in there.
Nuclear loot crate detected.
It would be really cool though if you flipped open the box and you got like a full summon
circle.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
Equivalent exchanges.
Retreat by the lack right here.
That's bad.
In your loot crate.
I do that.
Okay, I can do it.
While you eat.
Summoning that could be useful.
While you eat.
That would be a treat.
I'm telling you man, summoning is broad.
It's a big, it can go a lot of places.
And you're probably going to like some of the places that this month's loot crate goes.
Yeah.
So check them out at lootcrate.com slash super best.
That's the promo code super best.
Save some money.
Help out the podcast.
It's all a good time.
Thanks loot crate.
Thank you loot crate.
Thanks.
Yeah.
Pay for the roof.
Pay for my ceiling.
Oh god.
We talked about Phantom Pain.
I guess I'll say a bit about Until Dawn which I'm in midst of right now.
Yeah.
Yeah man.
I'm way in.
I'm loving it.
It's an enjoyable fucking cabin in the woods with like sexed up teenagers romp.
Oh my god.
We're going to have sex so hard you guys.
No the term is you get sexiled to the guest cabin.
That's a lie.
That's literally what?
An hour away from the lodge.
It takes Mike and Jessica.
I gotta say the conversation is way more natural than life is strange.
Yeah.
Definitely.
Or like kids these days.
That's part of that porn stars.
That's probably the one like stand out like that's a weird line Josh.
But that was a weird guy anyway.
I'm sure I've heard that line in at least California occasion.
Yeah.
But um.
There's a great room later in the cabin you don't have access to yet.
It's not much of a room.
It's just the media room where they have, where they, you know, Josh shows all the movies
and stuff.
The movie collection.
And there's posters on the wall because the writers, the Hollywood writers that they brought
in to do this script, they wrote a bunch of other horror movies and some of them are
fantastic.
Like there's one called House of the Devil and they have those posters in that room.
A real movie.
They're like oh these are, they actually did these movies.
And like.
I didn't know those were real movies when I saw those posters.
One or two maybe.
I didn't recognize them.
But two were like I've seen that movie and that's the title of that movie.
So like it's quality stuff.
Devil was the house.
I, I have a complaint and it's one that I'm hoping will go away as the story gets its
footing.
But there are four animal in small space jump scares in the setup to the story.
And it's like dude, you can only do this so many times.
And three of them are deer.
Three of them are deer.
No, no, no.
Wolverine.
There's a one Wolverine.
There's the two deer and then there's a bird that jumps out.
And it's like you can only do this so many times.
No, it's fine.
You're in a forest.
Are you still scared?
No, it's because the thing is, the thing is is that like the types of horror movies
I hate are the ones that have nothing but jump scares and you have no actual scary content.
You're using a cheap out, right?
A jump scare is fine when it's going hand in hand with actual horror or something that's
really going to creep you out.
But it's a cheap device when there's nothing supporting it.
I'm telling you right now, you'll be happy that you had those cheap animal based jump scares.
Okay.
Okay, sure.
But right now.
Watch as this game evolves from generic rip off, halt like, sextine.
To its own amazing.
But it's just not there yet.
Which is fine.
And you know what?
I feel like that is somewhat intentional.
You're ahead, you know more than I do at this moment.
But I'm just saying.
There's that one moment.
You know, I like the detention is building and you're walking outside and you're shining
the flashlight and I'm like an animal is going to jump out.
I know you're going to.
There it goes.
When Matt and I were editing those moments because we I did the first couple and he's
been doing it since like we discovered that your character screams before the the animal
appears.
Yeah, there's one or two.
It's really in the first like couple of hours.
Like when you're still just the situation isn't even a thing yet.
You know what's going on where I swear an animal person jumps.
What now I can say that maybe from that character's perspective, they're closer to the scene and
can see their peripheral vision.
But that doesn't fly.
The thing early with Beth and like a like in the very first five years where the deer
jumps out her screen procs before the jump out noise.
And it's really goofy.
And I'll put this dumb like mask flying up out of nowhere into the same category.
But there's the ones that I like, though, is character goes into bathroom and sees
us and pulls curtains and then there's nothing but the camera just jumps.
I didn't get that scene.
It's one of the best things.
I saw a screen shot of it and I'm like, that's with Mike and Jessica in the cabin.
And if you just go investigate the bathroom, it just happens.
So that is the kind that I'm so into that type of jump scare.
Absolutely.
That's nothing because of your mind.
But the fucking animal and the fucking thing going, it's like, all right.
You get to the device.
You're past that.
Don't crush it.
Yeah, I hope so.
Yeah, you are.
Because there's no reason to go back to it now.
There might be one more.
There's one more, but it's not jumpscare.
Yeah.
And it's my favorite moment in the game.
You've introduced things to fear, so we don't need to do this fucking little song and dance
anymore, like shitty horror movies do.
It's like it's pretending to be.
That's what it's trying to be.
I know, but it's annoying.
The first half pretends to be a shitty horror movie and the second half pretends to be an
amazing horror movie.
It's a wolf in shitty wolf clothing.
I'll take your word for it.
It's like, oh, your wolf costume looks like shit and it takes it off and it's a real
wolf.
You're like, oh.
That's better.
You should just...
You should have been with them.
But of course, it was just a joke, bro.
Until you know though, because going, you have what you have to base your opinion on.
Until you know, I see that and I go, but everything else is fucking solid so far.
I'm way in the audience knowing things that your characters don't know.
You had an earlier complaint before.
Switching between the characters is really fabulous too.
Yeah, there's a great one in the beginning that I was like, oh wow, I've never seen that.
It's like you're walking by somebody, I forget.
And it's really early on and you just walk by somebody and it just switches for one line
of conversation between two characters talking and then back to who you were and I was like,
that was so seamless.
It was great.
Yeah, I know.
That's when you meet Emily and Mike.
Yeah.
So there's two things.
The thing, there was a decision moment that you talked about more explicitly with us beforehand
where like you trying to stay and decide.
Sometimes nothing is the right decision says the game except when no.
Here's the deal, Willie.
And you were like, oh, the game is messing with me?
No.
In that scenario, it's actually the internally consistent world logic.
It's not the game that was messing with you.
It was the scenario was designed to mess with you.
Where Pat and I are, there are several decisions where we're absolutely sure if I had done
something, it would have resulted in a harsh death right there.
And there's several moments that were three steps ahead about what we thought was going
on.
And when the game finally tells us this is what was going on with that scene and you chose
to do something, our minds are flooding with the possibilities of what could have happened
if we hadn't done that.
Because right now a lot of my choices are breaking down to safe path or risky path and safe path
is hold left, risky path is press the QTE.
These are like you have a weapon and you can do an action and it's saying, do you want
to do this action right now?
Here's a time limit.
Choose right now.
I think it's not spoiler to say it's like there are multiple elements in which you could
fire guns in this game.
And they go, do you want to fire the gun or not?
You have one second.
There was one.
Sometimes the risky path is the right choice.
That's correct.
There was at least the thing I was telling you about the path where there was no timer,
but there was a hidden timer.
There was a hidden timer from the situation.
Like not the game logic.
Fucking amazing game.
Because you were making it awkward.
And something that you're going to notice as you go into areas that have more findable
items is that like the more articles you read, the more fluff.
You know all those things you find are clues, right?
Like those start to factor in way more into like long discussions about what the teens
think is going on.
There's a lot of like really good world building in that.
It's amazing.
To the point where like you'll get extra dialogue.
Like a lot of extra dialogue.
I'm hearing pick up that thing.
You were not going to have that conversation.
Well, what I'm hearing from you guys, the three of you guys, which is pretty consistent,
is that like because the story has unfolded itself in a way where you're like that's really
good, you're giving it a lot more slack.
Yeah.
So I'm saying until I have that moment, I don't have that slack.
No, for sure.
But I am enjoying what's there.
Yeah.
Minus the things that I'm telling you about, you know.
But it's fine man.
Did you do the Ouija board thing?
Yeah.
Did you see the thing in the background?
No.
Yeah.
After this, if you remind me, I will pull up the footage of our episode and show you
the thing.
Get out.
Really?
Yeah.
Matt missed it too.
I saw it too.
And like it's so fast that I went, what the fuck is that?
And then the camera changed and Matt goes, what?
And then it was never there again.
Just like how later on in the game, characters start going, what the fuck is that?
And another character goes, what?
And looks at nothing and then go, you're stupid.
There was nothing there.
It's great.
It's great.
That happened in real life.
Yeah.
I'm still, those things I'm trying to wrap my head around and it's like, is this just,
is this supernatural or is this just big scary man?
That's a good question.
Very good question.
Yes.
That's my answer to your question.
Correct.
And I finally gave some time to Nuclear Throne and it's really fun.
And I can't wait for that game to be finished.
Yeah.
Because what's there so far is great.
And I can see where all the clones came from.
Yep.
Not much else to say.
So we're going to have clones of games that are out.
That are not out yet.
Yeah, that's fucked up.
Because your concept is so fucking rock solid.
You know?
That's a game I think should have a character list that just goes off the screen when it's
finally set up.
Yeah, I hear you.
Because there's so many variables to go with there.
That's it for me, really.
Lots of good games.
Lots of good video games.
Well, that's crazy.
Good games.
Crazy.
That's dumb.
Nobody has good games.
So let's start out on the news that we're going to be getting four new Mortal Kombat
characters in 2016.
What?
You should have seen them by now.
Yeah.
I hope they're better than Jason.
Which the other ones all were.
I hope so.
Yeah.
I don't understand why Ed Boon put up this picture and wrote Tomorrow and then it's been
like four days.
Because he didn't ask anyone.
He just put up the picture.
He just not honored it.
Yeah.
He doesn't have the skills.
Help me do what Netherrealm will not let me do.
Don't I own this fucking company?
Aren't these my characters?
No.
Four shadows.
One of them looks like they're wearing a Lin Kui mask.
It's rain.
One of them looks like Baraka to me.
Rain Baraka.
Without them photoshopping out.
Yeah.
Rain and Baraka were in the story month, so they're in for sure.
Yeah.
There's a lot of places to go.
I'm hoping two returning, one new and one...
Frost is going to be in there.
Like guests.
I swear one of them looks like Robocop to me.
The one in the back.
Oh please.
Robocop has these two bolts where his arms go in.
Yeah.
I looked at that super heart and I looked at where his ears are covered with the circular
things and it really looked like Robocop.
Please be Robocop.
They had Robocop in the Terminator.
Be good.
Please be Robocop in the Terminator.
Who yo's?
I don't know about the moveset, but the fatalities at least you know what they'd be.
The Robocop.
Yeah, the balls off.
No.
Have a fucking dump truck of sewage.
Talk to the waist.
Yeah.
Just stir a stir on screen.
It's got to be.
I don't know if they have the tech in their models to melt them like that.
Robocop calls in at 2.09 and you have 20 seconds to go.
And then there's all that 20 seconds.
The fatality lasts like 48 seconds.
It's a fucking cutscene, yeah.
No, no.
It's like the character that you're going to do the fatality on grabs fucking Dick Jones.
I wouldn't predict Jones.
That would be the thing that would get people to understand that like no, don't play the
fatality.
And then Robocop walks up and somehow you teleport it into an office building.
Yeah.
Just devour with a briefcase running and panicking.
Like oh man, yeah, you can do a lot.
Oh Robocop, this is the best movie.
Oh, I love it so much.
It's the best.
Or like the guy, the person who's in there like the fatality state grabs a random girl
as a hostage and then like Robocop has to aim and fucking go.
Shoot, put your legs in it.
It's the guy's dick.
Yeah.
Right form is there.
Tiger is a plane.
Two characters.
Nice.
Four characters added to the roster is a lot though.
So that's, it's cool that this game's getting supported in the long run.
Now, do you know, as it said, if you own the first combat pack, do you get this too?
I just, I bet you will.
No, this is called Combat Pack 2.
That's kind of bullshit.
It is.
It is.
I think it's fine putting out more DLC characters.
I think it's great actually.
But I feel that if you did own the combat pack, you should at least get the characters in
the second combat pack along with it.
I mean, there's also supposed to be a new stage.
There's supposed to put the pitch.
So stuff.
Yeah.
They announced it as Combat Pack 2.
I'm very not down with companies launching Season Passes without making people aware there
will be a second one.
Well, yeah.
That at the very end.
So what you're saying is, was Borderlands 2 or Pre-Sequel the first one?
Borderlands 2 has a Season Pass and they said at the very upfront, Season Pass will include
these four DLC packs.
Yeah.
They were very clear.
And then they also put out like tertiary, smaller DLCs that weren't the big episodes.
Yeah.
I believe they put out one episode after that.
Yeah.
But the fact that they were super upfront like takes the sting off.
Yeah.
Your problem is like Border Brothers.
Yeah.
Whereas like I really didn't like, I already don't like the combat pack.
Like I bought it, but I already don't like it for not including a bunch of costumes that
have released.
They did have some costumes that were just pure free, but not a lot.
They did, but not a lot.
And they had the fucking Ice Sub-Zero or whatever the fuck that was on the first day.
And it's like fuck off.
Like I bought the combat pack, let me have it.
And in other MKX news.
They're the evils.
Every once in a while we talk about a, like, when we get into a nice FGC moment when there's
a really good money match or something like that that goes down.
Oh, tell me there's a new one.
So we talked about low tier God versus Wisconsin the other day.
And the all time best is Clockwork versus Neo and so on and so forth.
So we got a really fucking good one.
This one's really strong.
I heard this one.
Sonic Fox versus Perfect Legend.
Oh shit.
Perfect Legend is an EVO champ.
He's a Frito, a former winner.
You know what?
You won the game of having the best name where it's like, you're the perfect legend.
That was his name.
So flawless.
I'm still a fan of so much damage.
What game is this?
What?
What are you talking about?
Sonic Fox versus Perfect Legend.
Is this MKX?
This is MKX.
And we're continuing MKX news.
So they had a battle.
And the thing is Perfect Legend is a guy that's known for letting his emotions get the best
of him sometimes because he's jumped on Twitter before and kind of gone on a ranch because
he's bad at video games.
He's an EVO champ.
He's really good.
But he hasn't gotten the Twitch following that he's hoping to get and things like that.
So he took a few shots at maximum time.
I want to tell you something about this video that I hate.
When you put up the recording of this Twitch stream, do not put the win-loss count in the
title of the video.
Let me get through the story.
No, I'm talking about this.
Whoever uploaded this.
But that's the story.
So you just let me get there, Pat.
I want to watch it.
Christ.
So the menu match goes down.
It's too slow.
And the basic...
I'm a setting...
Oh, damn it.
The setup is that.
Are we there yet?
Sonic Fox was basically getting trash talked at by Perfect Legend because he's like, dude,
you're really good.
And yeah, you've dominated Injustice and you've dominated a whole bunch of other fighting games.
But your fundamentals are sloppy and you're just a new kid and so on.
So let me...
Let's go first to 10.
They do it at NAC and he gets fucking 10 owed, bodied beyond bodied.
Perfect Legend.
Perfect Legend.
It's bodied by Sonic Fox.
Clean.
Not a single fucking match.
Didn't Sonic Fox win EVO on Kax?
He won.
He's won a ton of shit.
He's really good.
He's good at Kax.
His brother is like the best at Dead or Alive.
Like they're...
Wow.
Like they're, you know...
It's a dynasty.
It's nuts, right?
So yeah, this is going on and you're just watching a fucking video of Arturo and Spooky
melting into their chairs as the fight goes on where it's like there's nothing.
There's no comeback here.
There's nothing happening.
Yeah.
And obliteration is an understatement.
What am I supposed to say?
So it gets to the end.
Tenno.
Tenno's him.
And then Sonic Fox gets to the mic and he goes, all right, here's my pop-off moment,
right?
You said a lot of shit, whatever.
I told you, I bodied you and so on.
What do you have to say now?
Perfect Legend grabs the mic.
He says, you know, I never said you were bad at the game.
I just said your fundamentals weren't good.
And what I originally...
Oh shut up.
And what I originally meant was I was saying, we needed, I was saying that if I fought your,
if I fought you with Aaron Black versus Mike Catana, then that was the match I was describing
when I first talked about it.
And you played a different character.
And it was a different thing, right?
And before he could even finish, Big E just grabs the mic and goes, so we're running it
back first to three with Aaron Black right now.
And everyone goes, oh, and you're like, yeah, I guess we're doing it.
And so they sit back down, they do the first to three with the character he just specified,
the John that was just called.
And then he gets three out again.
So he got 13 owed.
And I've never seen an ass blow up this hard in the entire history.
What does he say after that?
Nothing, because the stream ends.
Out of mercy, out of mercy, spooky fucking cook.
Spooky, you're a better man than I.
He just ends the stream.
Because that, I would think, well, now it's time for the hour long interview about what,
how'd you feel going into that?
Yeah, and it's just, you know, and I mean, look, like Daigo ten owed Xen before.
Yeah, these things happen sometimes.
But it wasn't, but it's about to be prepared.
But it's the fact that there was so much shit talk.
Combined with the second set.
You take the L and you just, you just take it and go, well, I was full of shit.
You don't call Johns on character pics.
Yeah, we don't do that.
It's a fighting game.
There's multiple characters.
And like, and you see your spooky is just like PL, you're hurting yourself, bro.
Put the mic down, you're hurting yourself.
No, please, please.
What I meant is that if you picked this other character against this other character,
neither of which we know how to play, I would be like, oh, oh, man.
Well, actually, I meant that if you were blindfolded.
So, so enjoy, enjoy that video.
So it's not, it's not an exciting series of matches.
It's just the destruction of a man's life.
It's the breakdown of a man.
It's video game cringe.
It's reputation suicide.
Yeah, that too.
Yeah.
Dude, PL, you can never take away his accomplishments.
And it's not like this isn't a side nothing game.
It's MKX.
Yeah, it's pretty big.
It's the best selling game of the year.
It's, yeah.
You couldn't do this more publicly.
Good job, Perfect Legend.
You showed everyone how big your dick was.
You have a great name, though.
Great name.
I can't take that away from you.
Maybe they should change it to Perfected Legend.
Well, Imperfect Legends is what people do.
Imperfect Legend.
Oh, wow.
God.
That's like when a movie has a certain name,
and it does really poorly at the box office,
and then it's a rush to who can get the best pun about how mad he is.
The best pun about how mad he is.
More like Sam Dams.
More like...
Sad Max.
More fucking like Madly Lost Money Max.
More like Expone.
Yeah.
Waiting to exhale.
More like waiting to shit the fuck.
I'm not good at this.
Let's go to the next news.
We'll do a good story.
We'll do that.
I'll bail you out.
Everyone is planning to poll players on what characters should join Exurge.
Everyone from Battle Fantasia.
Yeah.
Not Viking, though.
Don't listen to him.
Everyone put Viking in the game.
Everyone from Battle Fantasia is a good vote.
That's not a bad vote.
That's a good one, too.
Everyone...
They clearly still give a shit about Battle Fantasia.
Everyone except for Viking, including Leo Paul does.
Well, wow.
Wow.
All right.
No, my first...
There's a judgment on that, as well.
I could have...
Leo Paul is the worst.
My first pick, easy, would be Viking.
There's no other choice.
Well...
I'm sure I'm pretty sure it's not in the game.
Me and surukin.com, because...
Oh, there's a movement.
There's a poll that SRK ran, and right now she's at 23%.
That's high.
And the second place is Dizzy at, like, eight.
Unshocking that Dizzy's second.
I kind of just want Dizzy in the game so that we can get her.
This is an American poll.
Sure.
But I'm glad to know that collectively everyone knows what the fuck is up.
I'm still totally shocked that Bridget's not in the game, because Bridget is the most
popular Guilty Gear character in Japan.
Have you looked at the rankings for the Dead or Alive Extreme 3 character poll?
I haven't.
So how those are...
Why is there even a poll?
They put every girl in it.
Well, no, they're only putting nine.
Oh, they put it in that fucking idiot.
That idiot's super popular.
The blonde girl that's like 13 or whatever.
Mary Rose?
Yeah.
She's doing really well on the votes.
I bet she is.
But, um, yeah.
Oh, Rigg.
So it's...
Yeah, Rigg.
So it's, uh, you have to...
Like, the way to vote is you buy a theme on PSN.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, that's good.
No, I remember reading about that.
That's good.
Causing people to have to pay money?
There's no way to cheat that vote.
There's no way to...
Yes, there is.
The only people who are gonna vote are the people who give a shit.
Voting should be free.
For, uh, for, like, a president or for some...
Not for a...
Like, this is the most unbiased thing,
because you're not gonna get randoms voting.
It also means that poor people can't vote.
Yeah.
Like, that's what I mean, you know, like...
It makes sense, because...
Poor people like titties, too.
It's only Japanese votes.
There's no poor people in Japan.
That's not true.
There's no poverty in Japan.
What?
Nothing.
That's made up.
You're alive.
No.
Anyway, but it's...
Saved up my money all year for these titties.
It's the same as many other voting things in Japan, anyway.
But, uh, that's not really the point.
The point is that Mila is nowhere to be seen.
She's a fighter.
I know.
You know what?
Good.
I'm glad she's not there.
Why?
Because she's busy being cool.
Right, she's not being sully on this island.
Yeah.
You're right, you're right.
I don't wanna...
I see, I follow you.
I follow you.
I'm fucking buying the shit out of that game, regardless.
Well, for channel purposes, of course.
Sure.
Yeah.
Channel purposes.
Funny thing about channel, it's on its dick.
Yeah.
And...
You're supposed to not talk about where the videos come from.
This dick.
Alright.
Liam, would you like to talk about a new tweet from Platinum Games?
I haven't seen it.
I also haven't seen it.
I don't know this either.
So, good luck, Liam.
Platinum just...
Tweet of the week!
Try it.
Follow for this next one.
Okay, is it Platinum Tweet's new, near concept art?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay, that concept art was in the trailer.
Everyone's posting it like it's new, it was in the trailer, like...
But it wasn't the full thing, I guess.
But yeah, it was already shown off.
Wasn't it a girl that was shown off in the trailer?
No, it was the boy standing on the building.
Was it?
He was there, and I remember standing up with my hands on my face when Yoko Taro's
name appeared on the screen, and the boy was on the building.
Alright.
No, because I...
Yeah, I saw this all around, too.
So, did Platinum Tweet anything else?
No.
It can be a same-eat thing to someone.
It got me real up.
I saw them up.
They tweeted something, I was like, really?
That's it?
They're like, please enjoy and purchase the Scalebound shirt.
It's probably one of the worst shirts I've ever seen.
It's a black shirt with a green squiggle.
Nice.
And it's supposed to be the Scalebound logo, but it's nothing.
It doesn't say Scalebound, it just looks like someone randomly splashed a green marker
on a gray chest.
That doesn't look like anything.
I have a gray shirt with a white squiggle, that's DMC4, of the Ordinites Order signs on
that type of thing.
It's Scalebound isn't a thing yet.
Yeah, I saw it all over, and I got super excited when I saw the headlines, and I clicked in,
and I was like, wait, where's the new art?
Where'd the video be?
Where'd the video be?
So, what was the tweet then?
It still looks really cool.
Oh, I was making fun of Hideki Kamiya, because he says mean things to people on Twitter.
That's what I was doing.
All right.
Why are you watching your own Until Dawn play through on your phone?
Because I want to show William that thing, and not forget.
So, we've got a slight conclusion to that Halo composer battle between Mario, Donald,
and Bungie.
He's won.
That's the conclusion.
He won, and yeah, he's got it.
He got his shares back at Bungie, and he got all his money that he's going to be getting
for the Destiny thing.
And the funniest fucking part of this was it's like, yeah, he got everything that he
deserved.
But they said the main reason why they, one of the reasons they took his shares away
is because he would be an annoying nuisance at the shareholder meetings.
Like, that's not even wrong.
So, you know, but like, that's so cool.
So, William and I talked about this a little bit the other day after recording, then again,
it's like, Mario Donald was one of seven founders of Bungie.
And he was not just the music guy, he was the audio guy for all audio.
And with the fun times of Destiny development, and some of this came out where he had written
like this big song with like Paul McCartney and spent all this fucking time on it.
And a bunch of that got thrown in the trash.
I'd be annoying if shareholder meetings too.
So, what they did was they, he was supposed to compose something, or he did compose something
too.
He composed Music of the Spheres, which is full nine piece movement that was done for all
the Destiny games.
Yeah.
Which is amazing when you think about it.
And so, one, he wanted to be able to release that on its own.
Yeah.
Something that Activision is not fond of.
It was like, nah, I was thinking about it.
It's like, yeah, Activision doesn't release soundtracks.
And the other Bungie higher ups were basically like saying that, you know, they don't want
to do that, and that's the way it is.
And he didn't like that.
Yeah.
And then the second part was when the E3 trailer came out, they replaced his music entirely
with their own stuff.
That was reasonably upsetting.
So, yeah, he took a lot of fault with Activision.
I had a reason for Umbridge.
You know, the music in Destiny is one of the few things that I will say is fucking flawless.
Like...
Did a good job.
Music is incredible in Destiny.
So, real bummer that that situation went down the way.
And now he's back in those meetings.
Yeah.
I'm sure the lawsuit left him unbittered.
What business reasons would there be for not releasing soundtracks?
Yeah.
Like, never.
If it was like, no, we'll do it eventually, I'd get it.
But it's like, we'll do it.
Yeah, like, we'll do it.
After all the games versus never.
Like, what's the get?
I don't see it.
I don't even know.
Well, unless like Paul McCartney has some kind of rights.
Unless there's like a Paul McCartney estate that wanted like insane rights or something.
There's also a lot.
Yeah.
But he can have an estate.
Okay.
Yeah.
I was just like, that sounds like a mistake.
Like, unless it has something to do with Paul McCartney and like a huge massive portion
of the money like for being forced to be directed towards him.
I can't, I can't see it.
I can't see it.
But when I read that and I thought about other Activision products, it was like, that's
some that's not the first time they've been like that.
But I mean, they never put out a soundtrack like they make tons of money off of it, but
they never put out a soundtrack for Call of Duty, as far as I know, or
Wouldn't it just be that guy going, yeah, wouldn't you level up?
No, it matters.
He's calling him an enemy.
Yeah.
You're right.
You're totally right.
It's as simple as, please buy our video game to listen to our music.
Yeah.
If you really like the music for Halo, which is great and music for like, as you said,
Destiny, please buy our video game.
Yeah.
Are you implying you would get the soundtrack?
It's such a weird short segment.
I'm just saying maybe it's as simple as that.
No, you're right.
It could be that simple.
It's still dumb, but you're right.
It's totally impossible.
Please watch our movie to hear the music.
That's bullshit.
It's like, yeah.
Okay, I guess.
Sure.
You need to hear the speakers blast out.
So you look like you're trying to set up or say something.
I'm finding the thing that I want to find out.
All right.
Let's hold on to show you.
Fine.
Christ asshole.
No.
I'm doing it for you.
You look, you've stuck your hand up a bit.
So I was like, yes.
No, that's me touching my phone.
Okay.
All right.
Did it for you.
All right.
You're a gamer sat down with Miyamoto and they talked about a bunch of shit.
God.
So this is the best.
So Pikmin 4 is in development and very close to completion.
Like everything he ever wanted.
I can't believe it.
I remember like when Pikmin 3 came out, I remember I finished it the day of and the
next week I told Matt I want Pikmin 4 already.
I was like, Jesus.
And I remember you shrugged it off as like, no, it's never going to happen or something.
And like, I was like, no.
Because it just came out.
The sequel is going to come out and it's like, I guess I must have sold.
Okay.
It did.
Absolutely.
It's like important to Shiki as well.
He clearly cares or he wouldn't be pushing for a fourth one.
Or making short films about it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Independently.
Right.
Exactly.
So Pikmin 3 was amazing.
So I can't wait.
So there was that and then they talked about it.
The future plans with like Mario Galaxy 3D and the possibility of making it Mario Galaxy
3.
Woo!
Surprisingly, he kind of was saying that some people had motion sickness and the difficulty
was a bit hard for people with those full on 3D games.
I've never heard either of those.
They've been saying this shit since Mario 64.
And so they kind of were trying to think of ways to kind of compromise.
And we should stop showing these gameplay demos to the 95 year old people on your board.
So 3D Land was one of the compromises, for example.
And then there's the other stuff where it's like New Super Mario Bros.
We outsold Galaxy.
Well, the real talk is the New Super Mario Bros. series does 5 million plus.
The 3D games don't do more than 3.
So talk.
They sell them more than double and it costs less to make.
So there's no accounting for taste in this world.
And it's a game because the Galaxy games are so fun and full life.
I wouldn't want Galaxy 3 though.
I want a new thing.
Yeah.
I'd rather Sunshine 2 than Galaxy.
I'd rather Galaxy.
That's bold.
That's a bold statement.
It's not wrong, but it's bold.
I'll take Galaxy 3 in 10 years once we've had a couple other different parts.
Sure.
Whatever it is, it'd be nice if the camera was behind Mario.
If it was 3D?
Yes.
Like, behind like RE4?
Well, no.
No, like real 3D.
Like Galaxy.
Not like 3D World where it's, you know, the camera's pulling a symmetric,
but like, proper 3D camera.
I totally agree.
Yeah.
And the other thing too is I kind of, I realized that like, is this like the first like big
interview or like discussion that's been had since Iwata?
I believe so.
I believe so.
Yeah, it might be.
There's been some silence.
That might be for sure.
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah, but no, I didn't know this, but yeah, New Super Mario Bros. Wii sold 29.3 million
units and Galaxy did 12.5 and Galaxy 2 did 7.4.
Yeah.
So that's how much better than Galaxy than the fucking New Games did, you know.
That's a bummer.
That's the reality we live in.
We're getting Mario Maker.
I don't think the worst bummer is a good game outsold a great game.
Yeah, I think that was a bummer.
No, for sure.
I just, I just think.
A shitty game.
A shitty game.
Well, that's a bigger bummer.
It informs, it informs their decisions.
Yeah, exactly.
But what he said in the interview was that like, he knows people want it.
Yeah.
So they're trying to, again, find the compromises.
Yeah, so they need to balance both.
And 3D land was, like you said, that sort of but not fully land.
I love 3D land.
Yeah.
Would I want another 3D land?
No.
I'm glad it exists.
Are you guys talking about land or world?
3D world.
Land is for the 3DS.
Yeah, exactly.
The 3DS.
The 3DS.
The 3D series.
Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah.
Can't you just put numbers back on these guys?
Because that camera is like.
It's isometric.
It's not 3D camera.
3D camera.
You know what I want?
I want Super Mario 65.
That's what I want.
Okay.
Wouldn't that be great?
Like with a hub world like that?
It means not like Sunshine said.
You mean Mario 128?
No, I mean Super Mario 65.
Yeah, Mario Montana would be good.
I would.
So, Super Mario 65, you.
Yeah.
The only thing about the Pikmin game is he mentioned that Pikmin 4 is like,
far in development, nearing completion, which is like insane,
like to say that kind of thing.
I guess we'll see that in the next Nintendo Direct or whatever.
But, yeah, obviously people are going insane already with like,
oh, is it an NX launch title?
NX, NX questions.
So, I would fuck off with the NX shit.
We know enough.
We know so little.
I would.
Purely speculative based online.
I would rather speculate about the NX than talk about the Wii U.
No, fair.
But like, when I'm in fucking like sales threads and like,
it instantly devolves to NX.
Every sales thread, every week.
That's all boils down to.
And it's like, give it, these are theoretical sales based,
like they're talking about a magic system that does everything.
All that matters is interest.
I know, it's not right.
Well, you're right.
It's magic.
Too bad, because we're not done talking about the Wii U.
It's fine.
Star Fox, Kirby, and Warrior Princess Peach were proposed to Skylanders,
but didn't make the cut.
I'm glad Warrior Princess Peach didn't get the third.
That doesn't sound like something you'd want to play as now.
I'd rather Hyrule Warrior Zelda.
Sure.
Totally agree.
So, apparently the reason why Kirby didn't make it in is because
Hal has the final sign off, not Nintendo.
Well, that's neat.
Which is, you think it's the same, but it's not apparently.
If I'm not mistaken, that was speculation.
I read that they denied it, but Hal does own rights to Kirby.
I don't think there was a direct answer where Nintendo said yes.
You don't get Kirby over my cold busted hands.
It was more than, what does it say here?
Kirby was nixed because Hal Laboratory, though it's basically first party,
quote unquote, it's weird, needed to sign off on the figure first,
and apparently they were hold-ups with that.
Okay.
So, as for Fox, Nintendo opted to not take away from Star Fox Zero,
so they declined the character, and Warrior Princess Peach was nixed as well.
Good.
Sure.
Yeah, I read that the Mario characters weren't even on the table,
but I guess Bowser and Donkey Kong don't count as Mario characters.
The Head Eaters.
I don't know.
Donkey Kong does that quote.
Bowser does.
I don't know.
I'd be more excited for the Skylanders thing if it was just like,
if all amiibos were in it, and not just these two special ones.
If it was an actual partnership.
The fact that you can't take a Donkey Kong or Bowser amiibo
and just use them in Skylanders is bananas.
The fact that you can't do anything with anything.
The fact that everything is just this specific thing for this specific use.
We're looking at-
There's a fucking switch on these amiibos to switch them between Skylanders and amiibo mode.
That's why you can't.
Guess what?
A regular Donkey Kong does not have a switch.
We're looking at an era of two new sets of tech for video games.
One is amiibos and one is VR.
I can't wait for the first VR toys to life game.
Not AR.
I want to fumble around in real life without being able to see the toys.
To see the wild variants between the two where amiibos are the most proprietary lockdown-
amiibos and Skylanders and all that Disney shit too.
They're all the most proprietary lockdown shit possible because of licenses
compared to VR where everyone, all of the competitors are all talking to each other and saying
everything has to run on everything.
Right?
Right, guys?
Right.
We're all good here?
Yeah.
And Mark Zuckerberg looks up and has to say yes to everything.
We are looking at an era of immense failed potential with these toys to life things.
I think, I think, I think like there is success in regards, well,
Infinity, Infinity's just not taking off really like crazy or anything,
but whatever Skylanders is at least making a bunch of money.
That makes it very common.
That's only for a few characters.
Like does a Skylanders only exist because of Nintendo's folly?
Yeah, exactly.
Skylanders is at least making money.
Skylanders is the new PlayStation 1 god.
So making a lot of money.
Sign that deal with your potential self in another dimension.
Definitely like Amiibos I think is the most failed potential one.
Because for Skylanders, I don't know, but I never expected them to work with anything
else really.
Like they were always, to me, they were always just Skylander dolls.
They're not even a platform.
They're a single game.
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
But for the fucking...
Amiibos.
Nintendo Amiibos like Kripes.
Kripes is right.
The other thing is, so there's a hold up on Freedom Planet for Wii U because they found
a severe bug that was holding up lock check.
And it got delayed indefinitely.
But the good news is that they found the bug, they're fixing it, and they still are not
giving a date out because they want to be sure it's settled.
Yeah, of course.
But there's some shit.
Was it a dildo?
Nintendo has found a bug and are not telling us how to find it.
Yeah, in fact, they're keeping it away from us until second submission.
Fuck.
They're the worst with submission.
Fucking Christ, man.
Are you for real?
Is that a real thing?
All right, all right.
Was it a dildo?
Hidden dildos on the walls.
Freedom Planet.
Using the dildo to poke dead bodies around.
Don't mess with dead bodies.
That breaks submission.
A Mega Man movie is go at Fox.
All right, we're done.
Let's move on to the next news.
That's...
I'll quietly wait for this to be canceled.
Yeah, just like the Metroid movie.
Mediocre fighting robot.
Just go get all those Vin Diesel and Tom Cruise pictures.
I want Vin Diesel to play Mega Man.
There's that.
Those posters exist.
I don't want that to happen.
I am having the same emotional reaction to this news as I had watching that Shenmue online trailer.
Okay.
Where I feel nothing other than that's not going to happen.
This is standard for like video game movie announced.
No, it wasn't.
How many Metroid options have been announced?
There's one way that this could go down though.
And could go down and not even be that embarrassing.
Animated.
Yeah, yeah.
Then why wouldn't it just be an anime?
There is a series coming out in 2016.
Yeah, so then why this also then?
Because it's Fox.
Because how are you in America?
It's different.
Mega Man evolution.
You think the Simpsons will get stars?
No, but Rick and Morty might get in there.
That's the best crossover I've ever seen.
Morty, you gotta kill the robots, Morty.
They're robots.
They're not robots, Rick.
No, it was a metaphor, Morty.
Because they're fashion.
Ron Gilbert really wants Disney to sell him the Monkey Island IP.
I bet he does.
But that doesn't look like it's going to happen.
So he wants everyone to stop bugging him
for a new Monkey Island Kickstarter.
Because he can't run the Kickstarter until he gets the IP.
Fair enough.
Call it Primate.
It's Primate now.
But it's not the same.
It's Primate Resort.
But it's also the same.
It needs to have Guybrush.
It needs to have, like, all of it.
No, it needs to have Mancomb.
What's another word you meant?
Mancomb.
Mancomb for metal.
But that's not good enough.
You know what?
I've been waiting a long time for the Kickstarter
that just does that.
It's that shitty big company thing
where, like, they're not using something
and you go up to them and you say,
hey, can I buy this off you?
And they say, wait, what is that?
You want this?
You want to blow it off?
And they're like, what is this, Felix?
You want weapon lord?
What?
Weapon lord's a valuable brand to us, man.
We can't just sell you that.
So when I was at PAX
and I was asking the harebrained schemes guys
because, like, Wasteland and Divinity
and a lot of those Kickstarter RPGs are coming to consoles,
I asked them, oh, you guys have any plans
on bringing these to the next-gen systems in some way,
like those guys?
Like the booth that's right next to yours?
And the lady made this face
and she almost actually tugged on her collar
and went, um, Microsoft.
I'm like, oh, they own the Shadowrun IP, don't they?
And she goes, yeah.
So Necropolis and Battlezone,
I'm like, okay.
The, like, rights holders are dicks all the time.
They hold all the rights.
And for fucking Disney,
it's like Monkey Island is like three companies deep.
You know what I mean?
For them to even fight like what?
I mean, they'll know, but they have no plans to do anything with it.
If the person you're talking to in the meeting has to go, what?
Then you should, that should instantly
absolve them of the rights.
Like, I wish Disney would open up a new, like,
faux LucasArts studio, just like how Activision opened up a new Sierra.
Because, like, even if it's not the original creators,
just get those, like, at least use them for something.
For that Nemco, that Nemco project.
Yeah, the fucking best.
What do we do with these old-ass IPs?
Ah, Shifty Look was such a good idea
that it didn't go anywhere.
You guys want to try something, maybe?
It happens that, like, Disney had the Turok IP,
and then now it's gone, and then the guys that, like,
are re-released System Shock on the PC
are the ones that are re-releasing Turok 1 and 2 on PC
with, like, as modern as they can be.
Those people are heroes.
They are Night Sky, Night Something.
They're putting in the legwork.
They're really putting in the legwork.
So it's like, that was a Disney IP at a point,
and they lost it so, you know, it could happen.
They could lose anything.
Yeah, it just comes up for grabs.
Certainly.
But at this point, maybe Fight Club was right.
What?
Which message?
All of them.
Okay.
Burn it down, man.
His name was Robert Paulson?
No, just burn it all down, like, off-siding.
Well, burning it down doesn't get rid of the fact
that they own those IPs.
It will when their heads are on sticks.
Okay, well, we're burning it down or it's on sticks.
But at least the Amazon, I would free to use the Amazon IP
on my hut.
My survival hut.
The thing about it, too, is that Disney's at a place where...
You couldn't build a survival hut.
They're at a place where they own everything,
and they want to buy all of it.
It's a creative vortex.
It's like IPs just get swarmed into it.
That was Walt Disney's dream.
And they don't grow out.
Since he was not able to be, you know, a public Nazi,
he was then able to, you know, not see all the IPs.
His frozen head still burks out orders.
Yep, in German.
Because even if it's not being used,
it's like if you try to rip it off,
they can get some money off of you.
They could, they could.
Even then, it has its value.
And Yusuzuki hired a fan he met at a Thai restaurant
to work on Shenmue 3.
That's great, that's awesome.
That's a feel-good story.
The fact I'm up to him is like, man,
can you speak the language of Chinese?
Was that in America or was that...
I doubt it.
Because that's the question, really, yeah.
You're gonna, that's still fun though.
You're gonna be the for realness checker.
So you can check in on us and make sure that we're for real.
It's just, it's like, it sounds like a bit,
it also kind of sounds like, wow,
are they just grabbing anybody to work on Shenmue 3?
Yeah, maybe.
Yes, but no.
You know, if he's a good enough guy, then maybe he's a good guy.
It was one night I went to a Thai restaurant
with the development team after work at that restaurant.
My man approached me and asked me to shake hands.
He said he was a fan.
We had a brief talk.
He also happened to be in the industry.
And we began to hit it off.
We talked some more and we found out that he really knew his job.
And on top of that, he was an exceptionally good person.
I was so impressed.
I asked him to help with the development.
I couldn't help but feel Shenmue's unique gravity
to bring interesting people together.
So the real story in this should be titled
Man has amazing job interviews.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Super fucking smooth.
That is like getting a girl's number in an elevator.
Level of difficulty.
You have 60 seconds.
But you're like your dream girl.
That's like super famous.
And it's really on an escalator.
And she also speaks the language of Chinese.
There you go.
It's impressive.
And she's also a forklift.
And hopefully later you can play a game of Lucky Hit with her.
A.
A.
A.
Everyone do the double guns.
This means nothing.
It all means nothing, man.
It all means nothing with audio.
We're all going to die.
Did you know that audio killed the video star?
Yeah.
That's actually the what?
If you'd like to play a game of Lucky Hit,
please send a letter to superbestfriendcastatgmail.com.
That's superbestfriendcastatgmail.com.
And your game of Lucky Hit might sound a little something like...
Tell us where we can find some spoilers.
This.
This.
Fantasy Dota Tutorial says easy tutorial for fantasy Dota newbies.
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Don't know fantasy.
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Esports Plus.
Powering game.
That's interesting.
That's a good question.
We've never got that one before.
That's a good question.
What do you guys think about that?
I guess it would be handy to have a Dota tutorial.
On an actual response to that,
we are probably at some point with Esports,
once it hits a critical mass,
going to see straight up coaching, being a job.
Teach me how to play Street Fighter.
We've already got people who will do Street Fighter lessons for $80, $90 an hour.
Gootex has that set up.
Gootex has those lessons.
I think he has Jay Wong on his watcher.
I spoke to a guy at PAX that was a friend with Gootex,
and Gootex was doing that for him pro bono with some friends.
And he did it for another guy that was like,
I'll be your personal trainer.
You teach me how to play Street Fighter.
That's the guy I'm referring to.
Oh, you know about that.
Yeah, exactly.
There's real skills to be learned there,
so there's value in a good tutorial.
We've got one from Jean.
Yo, Jean, what's up?
He wants to know a little bit more down the earth.
It's an association, but I'm not French, honest.
Which person's name surprised you the most in the credits of a game?
I'm going to give that to Masahiro Sakurai
in fucking Def Jam Fight New York.
You don't know if that's real yet.
What?
You saw it in front of you.
You don't know if that's actually him.
It's a different guy.
Like you're saying it could be a different guy.
It could be, I guess.
People have some under special faith.
In America, in the video games in this?
Do you think EA reached out to a Nintendo employee?
No, but it's the video game industry.
What are the odds?
Very good.
Okay, well let's just...
I want to believe.
Let's just level it.
If it is that Masahiro Sakurai, then yeah, that's a good pick.
Then that's a very good pick.
If it isn't, then who knows.
Then the winner is Richard Doyle and MGS4.
Yeah, I think Richard Doyle and MGS4 kind of takes it.
Because that was a reveal.
The multi-credit sequence with MGS4?
It's explicitly designed to shock you.
What a good design.
It was good, wasn't it?
Incredible.
It was good.
This is good, isn't it?
Isn't it?
I remember seeing James Small's name in Fighter Within for the Connect.
Wow.
And I was like, that's fun.
That's good stuff.
Yeah, he would like this game.
Because he loves it.
Dear cultists of the Order of Armica's Ass.
Yeah.
Baby legs of Hulahan wants to know, when it comes to fighting games, specifically new titles
and an established series, do you look forward more to returning champs or new challengers?
Both.
Mexico.
That's not very helpful.
Returning champs, if they're my favorites.
Otherwise new characters.
Overall, new characters.
But I want Q.
Yeah, exactly.
I'm so excited about Armica because she's always been my very favorite.
It's her.
It's her that I'm fighting.
Yeah.
I say returning champs with time applied to them take top priority for me.
Whatever the context is, right?
If it's the same era, then it can't be helped.
No, but then I don't care as much.
Or how about characters from the franchise, but this is the first time they're controllable?
That's a good one too.
There's something for like, I just want to see this character in 3D.
That's one thing.
But in terms of what I want the most, it's like character with tough story and time applied.
So that they're kind of different.
Second would be new characters and then returning but the same.
Yeah, definitely.
Yeah, I think you nailed it, Willem.
But any returning character who's not your favorite, it might be something for Armica.
It's like that's nice.
Yeah, exactly.
Cammy's in.
All right.
Yeah, that's that.
But she's a little bit of a canon spike, Cammy, which is kind of cool.
They changed her.
But Vega's the step up.
Right?
Yeah.
She's the real one.
Right too, yeah.
So they're all very different because I couldn't care less if Vega's in a game.
Yeah, fair.
Because you didn't care that much about him before?
Not that I hate him or anything, but I'm like, yeah, he's fine.
Yeah.
I'm a bit more excited for Cammy.
I'm excited for Birdie in a way.
Cammy was amazing.
But like, if Ryu or Chun-Li were in it or not, I'm...
Yeah.
I started caring about Vega a lot more after the Udon comics.
Yeah.
They were really big.
I started caring more about Boxer.
That too?
That too.
No, the four kings are all amazing.
Amazing.
If Boxer is not in this game, someone screwed up with the fight money shit.
Like...
Oh, yeah.
It has to be in there so that they can lose fight money.
Or the little girl that he picked up.
I'm much...
And he's her hype man.
I'm much more okay with that.
She's doing fucking headbutts and dirty bowls.
That would be the best.
Take Abel's original design and just make her promise.
I want to see a girl saying all Bison's lines.
Yeah.
Like...
Doing dirty bowl as a commander, right?
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It sounds great in my mind.
You use the psycho drive to transfer his body.
His mind.
Stop me.
Oh, that'd be crazy.
A quick question from Matt from Fred.
And from Derris.
How's that?
What's up?
Sure, the Yankees hat started as a joke in the Phillies hat, which I'm a fan of.
It's pretty cool.
It's a nice change of pace.
But the real question is why haven't you embraced Canadian pride and picked up a few now defunct
but possibly coming back?
Expo's hats or anything more local?
I think someone wearing an Expo's hat is super lame.
Guess what?
It's dead.
We know someone who does that.
Who?
Mr. Wang.
I am Dave Dave.
Mr. Wang nearly exclusively wears Expo's baseball caps.
I don't wear other hats.
We saw the pass.
He was wearing it.
Okay, fair enough.
My dad still wears his Expo's hat from time to time because we saw a bunch of their games.
And I was brought to baseball games every time I got brought to a single one.
The Expo's got their assholes handed to them.
And I was like, well, they died because they weren't a very good team.
And I was like, well, then why would I wear their merch if they're terrible?
Go ahead.
And they never want anything.
So why do we have a shirt store?
I don't know.
We're terrible and we never want anything.
We want stuff.
Go get your Nordiques cap.
I wear a Nordiques cap over anything.
I think the Nordiques are cool.
Like they died in a flaming crash.
Yeah, exactly.
Which is cooler.
The tanker incident.
The tanker.
After, yeah, the strike.
Yeah, exactly.
Here on Strud D.
I also go for whatever logos I think look neat.
It's kind of what I actually go for, usually.
As a kid, I like that.
But then it's like, you got this little fly.
No, of course not.
Nobody really likes the Raptors.
Nobody?
Yeah.
Like, nobody thinks that way.
What are you going to do?
The Philadelphia cap was just to get a cheap pop when we're in Philadelphia.
That's a good idea.
That's a good one.
Hey, what's 10 bucks?
Also, people threaten me to say that you better wear a Philadelphia cap.
That's a good one, too.
It's like a cheap bodyguard.
You know, if it was just about, like, just aesthetics of the logos and shit like that,
Oakland Raiders looks super fucking cool.
What?
What?
To Philly that said, Rocky was not a real person, you dipshit.
But he was.
But if I could, I would get an XFL logos.
Because every XFL logo was the coolest.
He hate me, Jersey.
He hate me.
Or the, what was it, the Las Vegas Renegades?
Or the Chicago enforcers?
These are the type of video game style sports scenes that should be, like, real.
Roller Derby names.
Roller Derby names just as good.
Yeah.
You know what Derby names?
Diamond Dogs.
Diamond Dogs.
What we need to do is get in on, like, fucking Chinese knockoff hats to say, fuck you bitch,
thank you.
Yeah.
And there's shirts and stuff.
Yeah.
You know what you mean?
I fucking want to die.
On a, like, a four year old.
Yeah.
There's a picture of Dora.
I think he was like, I love dumb.
But it made me laugh for people.
Yeah.
It's like black Sonic backpack that just says Obama.
Exactly.
Yep, yep, yep.
It was a very popular one too, that's great.
And we got one coming in from Elwood.
And he says, Rising Thunder Faltes.
There's Ibatsu.
Thanks to your plug.
I found Rising Thunder.
And I got into the game pretty quickly.
Though I'm not big on fighting games, this one was simple enough for me to grasp.
That's the point.
I noticed that in your video, you guys weren't using special moves as much as me and my newbie
opponents.
Is that considered a cheesy strat?
I found some people complaining about it, like that streamer uninstalling and whatnot.
That's a little too casual.
But yeah, he does it in the game because he doesn't think the opponents will usually
be smart enough to react to it.
That's why you do it?
And as the game is growing, I feel like there's more people criticizing this mindset.
You guys seem to know a bit about FTC stuff.
So how does it look from that perspective?
People complain because they're frustrated.
They're frustrated and they don't quite understand how to deal with it.
And from their perspective, it's super frustrating.
But no, anything's legit.
Did you win?
So if you won, then they can suck it.
The thing is, for 90% of the game while you're learning how to play, there's a solution
to the problem or the wall you're running into.
You just don't know it yet.
And a lot of people are quick to get angry.
Because it feels like there is none, so you just go straight to rage.
It feels cheap.
But usually, if you work a little bit harder and figure it out on your own or read forums
or talk to somebody, you can eventually find the solution.
So in the vast majority of competitive fighting games, calling something cheap is just a cheap
attitude.
Throws are cheap.
So playing Dauntless.
Yeah, no throws.
No throws.
Playing Dauntless, Dustbreaker is very invincible on startup.
And I remember a bunch of matches where there's no chat, there's no voice, but you can see
from their play that they're getting really frustrated where they would jump in on me
or try and meet me and wake up every single time and I'd slap them with Dustbreaker.
And I'm sure those people would say, oh you're so fucking cheap and I was using Dustbreaker
like 10 times around.
No, but if it works, it works.
Well, that's it.
And I was fighting a Legend Dauntless the other day and it was just like he was doing
the same thing.
And I was like, I'm just going to beat it.
Yeah, punish it every time.
That's cheap.
You should not hit.
So no, all that to say though that as far as the whole, the fact that we weren't using
specials as much as you find yourself doing so, the main reason why is because a lot of
the time people think fighting game special moves are the best thing about the characters
and thus just keep using them because they're super great and you can't get around those
things.
And the truth is that what they are, they're actually gambles.
And every one of these moves is really, it's a good trade off, but there's usually a really
slow cooldown that can get you punished hard.
I know for me, it was the first time I was playing.
So I was trying to just use my normals because they're like super reliable.
Yes.
And like until you know your specials, it's hard to use them as like spacing options.
So I wasn't using them because that was literally my first time playing.
A good example from a different series is Virtua Fighter has a lot of really cool looking
awesome moves that do tons of damage.
Yeah.
In some cases break blocks or throw through things, but the single best move every single
character has in that game is their crouching jab.
No matter how unflashy it is, it's solid and you can count on it.
Another way to just kind of get to the same point is just basically the reason why normals
are being used and why footsies like exist is because by throwing on normal attacks,
they're not as flashy.
They don't hit you as hard and they're not as, you know, the payoff is exactly.
The payoff isn't always as great, but they're lower risk and if you miss one or if it gets
blocked or something, you're fine versus if you keep throwing a fireball out, eventually
he's going to jump over it.
And you're going to eat a full jumping combo.
Into a super or worse, if you're throwing a fireball at me and I'm on the ground, I'll
just raw super you before the fireball hits.
So that's what it is.
It feels like it's something that's useful to do at first because it's scary to just
use limbs when a big special hit can knock the guy away from you.
Well, there's situations when you're at full screen and you've got fireballs, throw some
fireballs.
Certainly.
But if you don't learn how to press those buttons and you just press specials, the people
that beat you are the people that know that's all you're doing.
They're going to block everything you do and find a punish.
The normals are more important.
Good fundamentals.
99% of the time.
Good fundamentals rotate between all of your options constantly.
Even if you have sloppy fundamentals, you can still beat a guy 13.0.
Yeah.
Generally, some characters have moves that are just what you call a combo filler or
it's a bad button type of thing.
But in many instances...
What's T-hawks jumping medium kick?
I don't know.
It doesn't matter.
In many instances...
Exactly.
It's not as good as this roundhouse.
It's not as good as this dive.
In many instances, though, you'll see a bunch of tools and they'll get used constantly as
the safe, good pressure options.
Yeah.
You know?
Dauntless' strong punch is amazing.
The exceptions are special moves that are safe on block.
Yep.
Yeah.
So if you watch any one of these...
Like any of Vega's roles in Street Fighter V.
As of right now.
Go watch a dictator doing a scissor kick.
You can't do anything after you block it.
He has no reason to not just keep doing it until I saw fucking Ryan Hart parrying both
hits into a Shoryu and it was like, yes, we're getting there baby.
It's just a little bit.
We're getting there.
Just a little bit isn't there.
But that's it, man.
Just keep playing.
Yeah.
Just keep throwing.
And if somebody comes at you and is a fucking sheep, like stop listening to them immediately.
Make sure you win.
I fucking...
We went to the arcades and I played throw characters.
I remember having to run out of a fucking arcade because I was like 12 or something.
I was playing Tekken 3 and I was doing King's Chain throws to like 18 year olds.
And I killed a guy in two throws and I had to leave right then and there because violence
was going to happen to me because it was so cheap.
Well, to be fair, it's incredibly cheap.
It's very cheap to do chain throws with King even though you can bust out of every single
part.
But no one knew back then.
But no one knew.
Well, no one even knew that like the idea of grabbing your block is like, no dude, I'm
a blocking.
You're not supposed to hit me.
Time out.
Time in.
So, yeah, I guess we're going to start wrapping up the light cast this week.
What's coming up and what are we looking forward to?
Until dawn, Metal Gear, Star Fox, and Danganronpa will continue.
Those are going to continue.
That's four things.
I don't think there's anything new.
Oh, is Reboot coming up?
Yep.
Reboot's coming up.
Hey, if you thought last week's Fisticuffs was a little bullshit and how it was like
a real game, don't worry, we're going to be playing a real fighting game this week
on Fisticuffs.
I promise.
It's one that I know a lot of people have been asking for.
A lot of people have been asking for.
It ends with an ultimate.
It ends with an X.
It begins with a P.
It ends with an X.
It's kind of anime, so you guys might want one.
It starts with an E.
Wow.
It starts with an M, actually.
Anyway, we'll probably have a quick look at Mad Max as well.
At some point.
You've got to get that done.
You've got to get that done.
Anything you guys are going to be...
There's a game coming out that I'm going to...
Yeah, it's the new Earth Defense Force is coming out, so I'm going to play that.
Oh, what?
On what?
The Vita one.
Oh.
Oh, fuck that.
Yeah, I saw a story about the new units.
Yeah, I know.
I thought you meant a localization of the PS4 version.
I know it's coming, but...
I know.
I have the Japanese PS4 version.
I thought you meant like the English one was coming out.
Yeah, no.
That one's coming out, so I'm going to play that, because the other part of the previous
one was fantastic.
But I think I'm mostly going to play Metal Gear.
That's very likely.
I feel like I have the possibility to be Witcher 3 by next podcast.
But it's too short.
It's too short.
So I will have my final...
I might have my final thoughts next week on that.
You gave me that retcon spoiler talking afterwards.
Yes, can we talk about that a little bit?
The last week's quest that I talked about, the romance thing.
How they fixed the thing?
I just explained the whole thing to Willy, spoiler, all shit.
That's fucking good.
That's a really good solution for your book lore story game problem.
Yeah, man.
Like, because I had that moment of like, am I overselling this?
Do I think it's just too good?
No, no, no.
That's a fucking genius.
Does it just solve all the weirdness and all the problems?
It's awesome.
Like, whatever type of fan you were, you got...
You have it out.
You do whatever you want.
You get good times.
But then you have to...
You have to...
If they follow up on this with what you're for...
They're not.
They've said very publicly that we're done after this one.
Oh, okay.
The DLC will happen.
But they're done.
They're going to move on towards Cyberpunk as their next big thing.
Okay.
Because in a Hal plus Meryl infinite ammo world, you know, you need to decide what's what.
The way this game is going, like...
Because there's been a thread throughout all three games that is being resolved in this
one.
Aside from just like, I'm going to go around and do what you're stuff like.
There's nowhere to go after this.
Like, everything will be done.
Okay.
Okay, but no, that was really, really good.
How old are you?
14.
Metal Gear?
Yeah.
Metal Gear and Mad Max for me for...
The 3Ms.
Zandam.
Zandam.
Zandam and Gear Metal.
No, you didn't try.
I didn't, but I didn't have enough time.
Reg...
Rage...
Let...
Lettem.
Lettem.
Rage Lettem.
That's terrible.
That's terrible.
This is terrible.
Oh, hey, man.
Hey, they can't all be gold, right?
No, no, it's not all gold.
Can I stop under them?
No.
What's your favorite best friend cast backwards?
Uh...
Ugh.
Ugh.
See you later, everybody.
Fuck's sake.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.