Castle Super Beast - SBFC 127: WE ARE VR

Episode Date: January 12, 2016

Goodbye David Bowie. Your banner will lead us in the coming VIRTUAL REALITY WAR.

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I tried. We really got to get used to this noise removal. Yeah, we have to get used to it. We can't just start calling it unprofessional. We used to do it all the time back when, at my old place, when we had the air conditioner that was super loud. Air conditioner, right? Yeah.

You should get Pat to yell really loud during the noise removal so he can just remove Pat from the whole podcast. Entirely. There's a way easier way to do that. You could just, like, mix me down. No, mixing you down is something that can actually... Just mix me down. So I'm going to keep talking, and I am basically starting to disappear.

But if you yell loud enough, the only thing that's happening is that I can yell loud enough to pick up on your guys' mics. Yo, everyone, cover your mics. Did you turn me back on? I mixed you back up. Yeah, I mixed you back up. So I'm yelling for nothing? Yes, that's great.

Oh, that's great. Well, welcome to the podcast. Welcome to life. Hey. Welcome to episode 127. Yelling for nothing. Yelling for nothing. It's the best way to live.

Tell me an esoteric fact about the number 127. I like how Liam... Wooly. ...straight out the gate wanted to be the one this time. Confrontational. I like it. I like this. It goes back and forth.

This is the battle I wanted. Last couple of times. I'm pretty sure you guys can figure this one, but you might recall that 127 hours is the movie... That's the first result on Google when you type in the number 127. Well, you remember, you remember, that's the movie where Green Goblin went up hiking and he had to cut his arm off. Yeah, I remember.

Yeah, I remember. And then he got really high. Yeah. Then he got really high. What did he eat? He ate his own face. He ate a handful of broken Oreos at the end. Hey, he coyote ugly eat himself.

Hey, James Franco, how did that arm taste? Tastes... It tasted so good. So good. So good. Well, James Franco ever get out of college? No. Never.

He got out of Freaks and Geeks, but that was high school. Oh, I love that show. Dude, if James Franco was a fucking, a Danganronpa character, he'd be totally be a Hope Speak Academy student. Yeah. Yeah, I think so. He's one of those super genius kids. It would totally be him.

I don't think... Good smug faces. I don't think super genius is a fair way to describe Mr. James Franco. Is he really smart? He's actually really smart. And he's a fantastic actor. He makes a good cut. No, no, no.

Go check out some of his interviews and like appearances. High level backhanded compliments. There you go. Strong. If you're so smart, how come you're in Spider-Man 3? Because he believed in Sam Raimi. That's true. You read the script.

It was so good. Yeah, yeah. That's, you know. To be fair, he's like the actually one of the best parts of Spider-Man. He fits in that movie like nobody else fits in that movie. Even he couldn't see the taste of Cinnamon Toast Sandman. Yeah, unfortunately. Although that was the only decent part of that fucking movie, to be honest.

What about the bit where he eats the pie? Like... God, it is ten years in the future. People are still gonna, you know, periodically bring up Spider-Man 3 and everyone's just gonna kind of lament it. You know what? It just keeps happening. That was the end of Innocence for Superheroes.

And we just played Spider-Man 3, we talked about it with Aaron and Danny and it's always relevant. It should be out of our system. Always relevant. But then the bile builds back up. That bit where he's dancing. It's, it's the... I don't even hate that part.

The dancing bit. The dancing bit is one. And the second thing is Sandman trying to pick up his fucking locket, the picture of his daughter. And he can't do it. Yeah, he can't do it. That scene is so good. And I'm like, those two men, you feel like you want to just pair the movie down to that.

I've talked to that length of people. Like a four minute movie? Yeah. Yeah, okay. It should have been a music video. I've talked to people on how to like kind of fix Spider-Man 3, like if you're somehow have like a magic one. Phantom edit it.

You can only edit it so much. But then it was like, the main problem of course is that Sam Raimi hates Venom. Never wanted Venom in the movie. It's really obvious. Yeah. And then they Sony Force, Sony Pictures forced him to put Venom because to be fair, Venom's super popular. Venom's awesome.

But Sam Raimi doesn't like him. Yeah. Like, okay, you're the director. You can put whatever you want in. But they're forced him and he did such a half ass job and tried to squeeze it in because, you know, marking or whatever, told him to do it. Wasn't the quote like, you're ignoring the fans or something along those lines? I remember years ago.

I would believe it because Venom is like a beloved villain character. And everyone wanted him. And everyone wanted him. Yeah. And everyone wanted him. Yeah. So you're getting to the third Spider-Man movie. Because he's amazing.

But hamstring fucking like shooting him in, you know. The other problem with Venom in particular for a film is that Venom as a character is actor poison because nobody wants their face covered up by a monster face. But guys, here's what we wanted. Here's what everyone wanted. We wanted a little bit of setup with Tofer Grace. And then he turns into Venom and then you never fucking see Tofer Grace's face again ever.

We wanted Judge Dredd. I was about to say, but that's for shit because a fucking like Judge Dredd is the perfect example of like, no. Yeah. Fuck the stupid actor face. But that's why... What's his name? Carl Urban.

That's why they picked Carl Urban because his lower half of his face is awesome. And the top half is a little weird. Like he's got a cool lips and a cool star chin. That's why Judge Dredd is like unique because the actor actually said, no, no, no, I want to do the part good, not get my face out there. And part of that reason is because he had just gotten his face out there with like the biggest movie of that summer, which was Star Trek. That's true.

And Tofer Grace was like, I think that was his big movie role. He was that 70s show before that. I was like, no, I want to be that. So instead, every time fucking Venom has to speak, you lose the crazy demonic snarl talking and the cool Venom boys. What should have just been CG? And you get Eric Foreman. And you get Eric Foreman coming out and saying, hey, I mean, man, you just like...

Oh, I'm a dad. And Eddie Brock's great. You can add tons of Eddie Brock scenes. But when Venom's met, like, and then they used... The other way to do it is that you have Tofer Grace as Eddie Brock, the entire movie. And the last scene is that he gets a symbionic on it, then move on to Spider-Man 4, have another director that's like whatever, and then have them do that. I think you have like seven total minutes of like Spidey and Venom squaring off.

And most of it is Tofer Grace speaking. It's just all it is is just give him room to breathe. We don't need eight villains in the same movie. Wow. We're beating the sea biscuit. Well, hey, no. Hey, guess what? Then they wanted to do another movie where he fought the entire sinister scene.

I remember that. Our bizarre passion for this movie is just justifying what we said by it always being relevant. Yeah. It will never be... We will have this same talk in ten years. Like if I'm listening to a podcast and we're talking about Spider-Man 3, I'll be like, what do they have to say?

Because I just... Yeah. And I... What's their hot take on Spider-Man 3? Before that came out. That's like fucking ten years ago. And you know what? Before it came out, like, it was this...

I feel like it was the same for Spider-Man 2, like it would just come up often enough. But for me, it hasn't come up since. In a bit. Since. Since two weeks ago when you did the video. You know? Because three was... It just eclipsed it and how bad it was.

Yeah, yeah. You look bad. I thought... I thought, like, to me, two was like great. I loved the dock off. Yeah, it was good. But two was like easily the best for its time. Up until the third act when we had to threaten the world for no reason.

Yeah, yeah. But also the thing with Spider-Man 2 is that the start of it, actually, like the first 70% is actually like miserable to watch because his life is going so shitty and he's such a loser. And the weird thing is that Spider-Man 3, the first half, he's a huge ass hero and his dick is huge and Mary Jane's like, oh no, he's so cool. I hate that. Man.

And the other thing I hate about Spider-Man in general, these movies, is that it's like the worst Mary Jane ever. I was biding my time to get there. And this is more... Kirsten Dunce's horribly miscast. This is more a personalized thing because when I read Spider-Man the most, when I was most cognitive and like, you know, like I could think about it. As a child.

I was re-inspiring in 3 in 1990, 1992 to about 94 where Mary Jane is this bombastic, energetic soap opera like, like Diva. And she's just as whiny, like whatever, and I'm just like, oh, that's not what I wanted to see. Emma Stone. Emma Stone. Like she's not the best Gwen Stacy, but she's pretty good. She's better than the other Gwen Stacy you forgot about.

Yeah, you're right. Like Kirsten Dunce was like horribly miscast. They wanted to turn Mary Jane into like this, this like girl next door, literally girl next door. Like, oh man, she's so sweet. Like Mary Jane is a fucking, like kick ass, like independent, like I'm going to go fuck. She wore cowboy boots. I'm going to walk around like a stripper and I'm hot as fuck and I'm so out of your

league, Peter. I'm so out of your fucking league. You tiger. Like, like Mary Jane should be like one step removed from being a stripper. Well, no, not really, because when you already said she was because, because when I try and try to walk it back, it's actually when Mary Jane is first introduced and may goes, yo, there's this hot ass babe who really wants to get together with you. My friend wants me to set her Mary Jane up with you in the comics and the comics.

And then every time in issues for like a couple of months, they would show a bit of Mary Jane. They were hyping her up. They would show her butt and her and her and like in the frames. And then when Peter is done solving the current arc, like wherever the fuck he was punching in the face. And then he's like, oh, God, and he finally sits back down in Emma's house and then she opens up the door and then he goes, look at this fucking babe. Like a fucking construct a con the whole thing's there all of a sudden Mary Jane is setting

the whole shit up. You'll crush that shit. Yeah. Mary Jane. There's all this stuff coming from underneath Mary Jane is supposed to be like Jessica Rabbit if she was a real person. But yeah, Peter comes down in his boxers and him and that may just do the jazz and will like.

What's my other thing is that during maximum carnage, she's like, Peter, don't go out and kill yourself. You idiot. I kind of love you or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. He's like, no, no, I gotta fight. She's like, so where's Mary Jane do?

She goes to the fucking club and clubs it up. When carnage is killing everyone outside, she's like, whatever, this beats hot. Yeah, no. And instead we got the teary eyed like, I'm just I just want to make it in the show bit like character. And it's like, and it's Kirsten Dunst also like, it's also like, come on. We all got done. Like, you know, it'd be a great fit pre-crisis Logan.

Low hand, low hand, low hand. I'm like, are you fucking like, are you giving us a pairings that you got going on there? But he's trying to think of an actor that because if you go check out the special one shot where Wolverine hangs out with Spider-Man at the bar. Yeah. That's good. Redheads. He doesn't tell them why.

And it's like, because it's his birthday. Yeah. You find that at the end. That pairing might work. Yeah. So it's just like double check. It is 2016, right? Yeah.

Yes. Okay. It's all yours. All right. Anyway. Okay. Well, hey, let's get a bit more relevant. Speaking of goblins, right?

Right. We lost the Goblin King. Yeah. Ziggy Stardust himself. That's really bad. Like, hot off the heels of Lenny's death. Fucking got it. They always, they always got to triple up, I believe is the term, right?

But that's the way to go out like Metal Gear is over. You get JoJo is over. Yeah. Yeah. And the other thing that's new is like, Hey man, you only have this amount of time. Let me drop one more album. Yeah. Black Star.

And if it sucks and people don't like it, I won't even know. It doesn't matter. I'm out. And if people love it, my legacy is rock solid. So there's this before. Yeah. Like he needed some more legacy. Funny thing.

Cause like David Bowie had, like he's, he announces his new album, Black Star. And then Black Star is already a group slash album name of Most Def and Tell Him Qualee. And like they're like, you're just going to take our name, you know, and it was like, he's David fucking Bowie. So what are you going to do? You can't do that. Yeah. Yeah.

No, no. So they go like, Tell Eve, like, is that like, what do you got anything to say about that? And he's like, yo, I got nothing on that. You just, he can take it if he wants. Who the fuck are we? What? You're going to step to David Bowie?

No, you're not. Ignore you. He's above you. Doesn't even know who you are. He's the only guy that made Heterochromia actually cool in real life. He's the only guy who made a lot of rad ass shit cool in real life. Yeah. He could pull off anything.

I remember some perform on SNL like years and years and years, like early 90s. I was barely even aware. Yeah. I was just like, who the fuck is this guy? I didn't know who he was at the time. And then someone revealed, oh, he's the dude from fucking Labyrinth. What? That, that was your touch point.

Dude. And like powers. Labyrinth, not everyone's touch point. For me, it's less dance. So one of the on your shoes and dance the blues. So one of the coolest things is the fact that you know how Dio is like just David Bowie and like you see him in his like different attire and what JoJo characters are based on musical.

So here's the cool thing is like right after we get past the most popular arc, which is which is start of Crusaders, you get to part four and it's like, oh, what other really famous like legend is he going to inspire to take inspiration from to create his villain? David Bowie again, again, he's just doing the other version of them where he wears the suit. Double it up. Double it up. He's doing it, you know, and just maybe if you can't get here, it's a nah.

Why would I leave? And if I'm sticking by this motherfucker and the winning formula, the best question, like I think isn't, isn't Jo Taro not a music character? Isn't it Clint Eastwood? Yes. Yeah. Eastwood. Yeah.

So it's not all music people. It's just cool ass people. Wow. The man with no name is what he was going for back when Clint Eastwood was cool and not a totally insane old man. Yeah, but he still makes good movies. Fantastic. Yeah, like Gran Turismo.

You don't have to. Yes. Yes, exactly. Gran Turismo. Yeah. Gran Turismo is my favorite place. I can't wait for Gran Turismo 7. Yeah.

Fantastic. That's good. Good selection of movies. Yeah. Nah, man. A shitty fucking end of 2015 shitty fucking start to 2016. Yeah. No.

Like it's not the year's fault. It's all the news and was just like overwhelmed with the like this very weird feeling which was this is bullshit, this like and in both cases they were super sudden unannounced. No one even knew type of things unless I guess you were really, really close or following. Yeah, because like it said that David Bowie is suffering for cancer for like 18 years. 18 months. Oh shit. And his album just fucking came out.

Which means that he was like I gotta get this album out. Yeah. And like for as far as Lemmy is concerned like motherfucker died playing video games in his living room. Probably not brutal legend though. Like they should have like oh yeah he just got a game from the new shop down the street and he was playing it with his family and you know that's when it happened. Well that's kind of like way less of a bummer because it's old rock star with destroyed

everything dies old in his on his couch with family. Playing indigo prophecy. No no like they walked in and they looked at him and then they looked at the screen and they just saw he s-ranked like being in a two. This is a good bus. And that was it. They're like yep. All right I'm done.

All right. All right. Well played. Well unfortunately while we're kind of on the subject of deaths I'll just start this off because I'm sure Pat will have something to say about it. You know another thing about deaths about murderers maybe about making that's that's right. We're going to jump right into our weeks.

Okay. Well yeah. Well I was going to say that like there's actually another death that I missed earlier. What? What? More? I didn't know. Otaris Arangis lead singer of Goire.

Oh. Last year. What? Apparently that happened too. And it was like that. Yeah that happened last year. Months and months ago. The shocking thing about that is that any members of Goire had made it to this point.

Pat and I talked about this in a video where I was like yeah the guy from Goire died. Pat's like what? Yeah. He might have discussed this. I expected like the entire band to get on to like a flaming zeppelin and crash it into the moon or some shit. And like in costume. Like I joke about how you should take rock stars out back and shoot them at 30 but like

if anybody was going to follow that rule it'd be yeah I keep throwing it down. It gets rolled back. It's going to be 22. Anybody who was going to follow that was Gigi Allen who did it. Oh yeah. And Goire. Yeah. And following them I guess Slipknot would fit the bill of just like.

One member of Slipknot died. Like not until. No but it has to be the whole. Man. That's a 9, 10, 15 guys. It's hard. It'll never be more real. Commit to the demon image.

It'll never be more real than Gigi Allen. They're not demons. They're just weird boiler suit guys. They're weird janitors. Gigi Allen would have the strongest skeleton. We discussed this. Yeah you did. To this day fans still take a shit on his fucking grave.

What a piece of shit that guy. At his request. So yeah let's I guess start with Pat and we'll go counterclockwise. Hey it's Pat. I'm Pat. Hey everyone. Yeah I'm going to. We should try and do the name thing.

I'm going to say hey. Pat how was your week. That'll be the name thing. Hi Patrick. So I will start with the thing that Matt and I have a comment and you two should have in common very quickly. I am tonight already so. So there's this new Netflix TV show called Making a Murderer.

It's a documentary. It is a. It is an entertainment documentary. It is not full documentary. It's too entertaining. Yeah. Yeah. This is the most depressing pause possible spoiler alert.

No. If you want to watch this. Spoiler for episode one and two. I would say. How many episodes are there. Ten. Okay. But it's.

That show is bullshit. Yeah. That show is bullshit. All right. Let's let's. Oh my god. Only testing the audio. So I'm going to go on the low version.

This is the. This is the scariest most depressing bad feel like bad in your chest riveting shocking everyone like and a compelling so television I have seen in years. Every single podcast is talking about it every single weekly show. That's the only thing being discussed now it's our turn. So it is. It is. I think on that.

I will give you a very very short summary of what this is actually about because I thought when I saw the title of the show and a brief synopsis that I didn't quite pay attention to I thought it was something totally different until my girlfriend was like hey we should watch this and then I and then we did this not the version they give you on the actual Netflix. It's not. It doesn't really describe exactly what it is while I thought it was going to be about the circumstances that led to the creation of a serial killer.

That's what I thought. Now you're kind of know they don't even know that because that's a fantastic part of it as well is that even the name of the show yes is interesting in multiple ways. Yes. So don't I would I'm gonna I'm gonna slightly I want to talk about the premise of the television program. Okay. But I think I but I think the name thing is like you should you should leave the premise

of it is it is not about that. It is instead about horrific systemic corruption. Yeah. That that in in particular what was it Wisconsin. Yes. The Wisconsin justice car or something the American manatee walk manatee walk is. Yeah. It sounds like a fucking wow.

But in particular this Wisconsin particular area is a horrifying hyper corrupt nightmare that some characters of ours who are real people in such a story get involved with and it is the breakdown of that narrative all the way from what is it starts in the late sixties. No. No. 85. You're right.

85. And then the the the primary case that you're dealing with in the show is like 2005. And that and those episodes. Take it from 85 to 2015 to there's 85 to now. And it is like they're OK. So anyone who's seen it will be able to understand what I'm saying. Anyone who's not will not understand what I'm saying. So I feel very confident that has the best cliffhanger ending to an episode I have ever

seen in any fiction strong let alone real life events because this is not fiction within the first two episodes. No within the first I think it's the end of episode four where they open up a box. Yeah. Take a look at what's in that box dude. And people are jumping up and down. Oh. Shit.

Do I. That was me. Yes. That was me last night. Rolling. You are feeling what that man on the phone is feeling. I jumped on the phone called some people. Jubilation.

Oh my God. Have to let everyone know. Yeah. Because because that never actually enters into the story of the real world. Right. When does that happen. It never happens. Like it's it's a real life thing that's so beyond.

It defies belief that it's it is very much like a stranger than fiction. So here's the thing about this though. I found out in in some of the post work after after just binging the whole thing as most people are apparently doing with this. Well that's what Netflix's whole thing is built on. So yeah. And so it's it's styled after you want to take a break from your bingey. No Netflix.

It's styled after I noticed you watched all of Sons of Anarchy. Are you OK. No. I'm dead in my chair. I have a skull face now. It's styled after another series I've been I've been recommended to each other like if you liked this this is where they kind of this is what the guys did it based on another series called The Staircase where it's kind of a similar 10 episode documentary thing

about an artist who whose wife is found dead at the bottom of a staircase whoops. And it leads to this crazy thing where they have to like jump all over the place and it's an insane like trial you know. So yeah dude. The thing is about the case in making a murder particularly is that like that's something that you might have heard about or vaguely remember because it was highly publicized. It's very public thing murder that happened when some of that was going on. But like what no one got was a lot was like the follow up and the more because why would

you use a murderer. Why would why would the news give that it's not just about police and justice corruption. It's also about how the total failure of the media to allow the presumption of innocence to work and decide the system. I think to me that my huge takeaway for me was if you are a poor person and you get in trouble and you don't have the money for a good attorney you're fucked boy you're beyond fucked. Also if you're a poor person or whatever don't do anything to a cop.

Yeah. Don't look at him. Well actually it doesn't matter if you're poor. No no I know but like even if you're rich maybe you can say you can get out of it or whatever. But here's the thing is I like when this was described to me because my wife was starting to watch it first and then she's like it's really interesting and I was like okay let me get on this and I go okay so what did what what is the police's problem with this guy.

What is the initial motivation. What is the initial motivation. They don't like him. It's well there is one incident. Yeah. And that leads to I don't like this man. Yeah. And that leads to a twenty twenty year narrative of horror.

So now of course there's the other backlash coming out where the people are saying details were left out it was by. Yeah I've heard that too. And I can definitely see like how it was edited from one side of the story. That's why I made the point to say that it's an entertainment documentary not a pure documentary because there is a court case in this that lasts multiple months in a year and massive portions of this show of course are slash long strings of testimony. Yeah.

Just here's here's a person's testimony for twenty five minutes some but it's not the whole trial. And some of course some key exhibits didn't make the cut apparently. There's some tire tracks that were apparently omitted from both the trial and this story which are crazy suspicious but but one thing dude to take away like when you check this out is like it is oh god I just lost my train of thought because I was thinking about another thing sorry. Great.

It's hard. I lost where I was going with that. It's scary. I'm really excited to watch it and I'll attribute whatever sentiment I feel to you Willie. There you go. That's what sorry. No no no. I got it.

I got it back. Moving on moving on. No just like if you which are three if you ever needed if you ever needed like evidence as to just the difference between good representation. Yeah. And bad representation. Oh yeah. And the worst possible representation.

Oh I see. I see. Okay. And fantastic God tier lawyers. Now you're talking lawyers. Lawyers. Okay yeah. You see the entire spectrum.

You see the spectrum from overtly corrupt representation. From F to miracle class. You see. Then you see well intentioned but poor. Yeah. Then you see well intentioned and decent and then you see miracle class lawyers. Miracle class lawyers dude. And those are the those are the giga corrupt ones or Phoenix rights shows up.

The giga corrupt ones are fall into that spectrum as well. You see but you get the whole story. Right. Okay. You see four Phoenix rights in this movie. Yeah. So interesting. The miracle plus plus dash lawyer.

Yeah. A real a real like highlight for me is whenever there's a day in court is done and it goes to the media room where all the media are asking like the defense and the prosecutors are prosecutors being represented like you know by the state of Wisconsin and all of the all of the media are doing what the fuck are you doing in there. They're all literally that guy in the stadium stands of the animated gift going what like what the hell was that. And oftentimes they just go yeah there's nothing wrong with what we did.

We're out. Yo and then they just leave and then the the defense lawyers come up and they're like what the fuck was that right and then all the media like yeah I know right and they're like right right and then just like that was so there was a point in one scene during a cross examination the final word where the defense lawyer stands up and you see a fucking twinkle in his eye and his level three bar fills up maximum and he's got I've got all I've needed and he just lets loose a fucking super desperation move. Yeah.

It's just like my favorite part. I think it's an episode five or six when they're cross examining one of the cousins and the defense finishes his cross and the prosecutor says out that's what you heard from blank isn't it. That's what you heard from so-and-so in this smarmy like I got in there last and the defense lawyer stands up and literally throws his hands up and goes judge and the judge is like you can't do that shit. Don't do that shit.

Yeah. Don't do that shit. That's bad. Theatrics overruled. Like fucking or sustained. That judge. Jesus. And by following the story for long enough I don't like a context and all that there's

very few ways you could paint some of these people as heroes or whatever. You get to see over a 20 year period you get to see who is there are people whose guilt is iffy obviously it's court of law and all that but there are people who are overt villains. Yeah. Yeah. People and people who you should trust people. Yeah. People that you should have trusted to be good guys who are overtly villainous and that's

horrific. And the setting too is a really interesting thing because it's like if they go out it's basically it takes place in the fucking it takes place right next to true detective season one. Yeah. Next to the gigantic mile wide junkyard. Yeah. You're like you're like you're looking at some of the characters and you're like some

I couldn't I couldn't write this better dude like there's some inbred shit going on somewhere and there's a couple of foreheads suspicious you know but yeah. But that's the interesting thing about about this documentary because it's like they didn't pick a story where the whoever was being accused of whatever was this like super innocent like completely spotless. It's actually a guy that kind of looks a little like oh jeez I don't know Stephen Avery is a fuck up because yeah and it's not like this perfect character and they're not trying to pay him like that.

But still it's just like but that doesn't matter man this is an analysis of the court system. This could be anybody. So you notice that this says season one and there can't be really a season two for this particular story. So that's why I'm like oh then this next time it'll be like a completely different story. It'll probably go like serial where they just picked a different I was about to say yeah serial already had a similar thing don't worry the system will create more an infinite

supply of these stories and I'm sure people are bringing their stories to these guys. So I think oh hey if you want to follow up on this this needs to be a long form law and order episode in which the next one I feel they would be remiss if the next series does not end with a happy ending. Because then as the series continues because I did you know you'll never you'll never know what's going to happen you'll you'll you'll be in that because McCoy didn't win all his cases. No you didn't.

But you know what at the same time look if they just take the stories as they come and choose the most compelling ones that's correct negative that's what I'm saying and I'm saying if they want it to go on for a long long period like seven seasons eight seasons. They need at least one or two that that either end so bad you can't believe it or so good you can't believe it like a super underdog story so that that gives you the the the actual drama because if they all end badly then then maybe people get really upset and a Hannibal Bress situation happens where I'm talking about it I'm talking about it I don't care about your social shit I don't live in that country that country can be as horrible as

it wants as long as it's entertaining for me but but it's very short-sighted things like this get watched by a lot of people like it calls into question well I mean the White House issued a statement on it saying oh it's not on us talk to Wisconsin that was the statement superfly superfly snooker thought he was superfly snooker thought he was off and then I'll make the next one about him and then a couple questions pop up and then you're not off anymore the statute of limitations on murder is never so all it takes is public opinion murder it was John Glock on Van Damme he murdered that guy poor bison no uh yeah I think I think everyone like you know give this a

small it's it's one of the most compelling I wouldn't call it entertaining but I wouldn't need like I said that a couple times entertaining is the wrong word but at the same time like none of us have seen well you see you've read listen to cereal Liam no my girlfriend did and she gave me a synopsis yeah none of us have listened to cereal my girlfriend and everyone I know that was into cereal was just like this about that so we're totally just could be late to the party we're always late to the party bro unless the party's platinum then we're early we're all horrible people who want to see people suffer in detail uh that yeah kind of we want to see every moment where their heart cracks a little bit there's there's some tough moments in that

show there's some real rough ones there you go some phone calls and some yeah some oh man uh so aside from that depressing ass shit there's a witcher three patch came out uh yeah that came out today dude oh like how's that how is it I've been way I've been actually waiting on that patch to go play that expansion so I'm excited I actually did play a lot of shadow around Hong Kong like I've been waiting on that for a while and the patches seem to have stopped so I gave it a shot man that game is yeah shot Steve told me what game is Steve steam steam yeah that game is Steve he works at steam steam bushemi that game is the fucking shit man and it just it just hit me with this just new wave of like man I need that robot shit soon I saw your tweet about I need that transhumanist

future about do sex so fucking fast do sex do sex well would you do would you go for the first step in transhumanism no the second one a little switch under whatever whatever turn on your sperm whatever makes you taller faster that go for the ball so the first thing I thought okay you get it but it has to be a light switch yeah I saw I saw the ball switch this is a an implant into your balls turns your turn production I was tweeting going crazy about this here's the problem because because they already invented the thing where it's like it dissolves after 10 years so you're you're infertile for 10 years and then yeah your boys come back but then now it's like a switch you just flip on and off and three months later you come on back boys so here's here's what I need to know

it cannot be user controlled because if it's user controlled you'll get drunk and flip it on and off a bunch of times it doesn't matter break your penis no it doesn't matter because it even when it every time you switch the setting it takes three months for it to clear what if you do it like five times in a row and leave it in the wrong position still it's okay and then how drunk are you then three three months from now you think it's in the nose worm it's you what's your fault within 90 days you can just feel your balls and check which position it's oh that feels weird so no that's it needs to have a light it needs to have a light it needs to have a little red light on that says no sperm no it needs to have a sound what's wrong with you that lets you select your

groove select your ball group you know what it means everyone knows yeah it needs it needs the i'ma use pow the usb connect and disconnect noises and once you make your selection the girl you're with is like yeah that makes sense yeah that's cool yeah i've been waiting for this uh yeah that that's a fantastic rpg uh i also got a new phone i got a nexus 6p from google's website third strike now dude this phone is the shit i don't really have much to say about it's an android phone that's the shit but it's not good the only other thing that uh i would say is like god i'm so sick of fucking carriers every fucking carrier in the world is like what version android you on we're on 4.4 5.1 do any of you like branded phone carriers have the new no no why fuck off because fuck off

we're canadian carrier phones and we suck shit and we only sell the 32 gig versions and only in one color because fuck you because fuck you to death so you got your puce phone yeah it's the only color it's white it's a white phone brown uh and as as a result of getting a new phone i'm i've been playing a lot of hearthstone actually yeah that is a perfect phone game and uses no data when you play it it uses like virtually nothing it uses one megabyte per hour of games you mentioned yeah which may well no i didn't not yet not on the park um and like it's it's fucking great the only thing is is like getting in it as a new player in hearthstone now or newish player christ that's a fucking complicated mess because there have been like two expansions of cards since i played oh two expansions and

and what shut up what play any card game the game came out in 2014 no no it's just like you want to jump into yugioh well there's 40 expansion you know like what and i read an article from polygon that was like okay all card games run into this problem new players that come in 10 years after the game exists are hit with 3000 cards that exist so what do you do you have to fight if you want and and magic and stuff like magic they rotate stuff out pokemon does that do magic says there's the base cards and then there's the new set yeah and if you want to keep up to date you can use the new set if you want to run your own shit but unlimited hardstone is probably going to get to that point in a couple a year or two they just they throw out the old decks basically right

effectively that'll be a little tougher to swing when it's an internet deck usually you still i mean in magic they still run unlimited and stuff but like those formats are like giga fucked so the thing about hardstone is no like like who goes first well that person wins like that kind of situation yes you have to you have to limit card power because the longer it goes on the more bullshit combinations you can create it is called power creep power creep yeah so uh what i've discovered is that because i was like i don't know and i looked up a lot of resources the i have i'm embarking on the closest thing to cheating that can happen in hardstone you yes because i don't know how to build decks i never played card games before i don't know how to build decks i'm shocked so there

is a term called net decking which is what i have engaged in and net decking is somewhat frowned on by people and a lot of people don't care but depends like the power gamers is that just where you point it to cards and it tells you which one to use net decking is where you go to hearthpone yes i know that is a bad website name and you download an app that catalogs all your cards then you type that into their deck building simulator and it will go through the highest rated meta decks and create decks out of your existing collection for you okay this means that instead of building my own deck which would be shitty i was able to use the basic shaman deck that has like 187 likes and has been played with for like two three thousand hours off of that website which has been proven to be

exceptional that doesn't sound that bad it doesn't that just sounds kind of but some people view that as like kind of cheating well and i just think it's boring and well once i actually know how to play the game and get more cards i will start building my own decks because as of right now i don't know how like i i'm going i thought that was the whole i am going up against training wheel i am going yes training well i'm going up against people with deck collections that they've been working on for two years cold and i assume that the whole point was this is my review yeah my are you versus yours i'm i'm not as into that but i want to get into it but if you if you're so shit at building a deck that you can't get any wins on the ranked then then you're not going to get

any progress think about the theory if that like step back and think about the theory of the game and the mathematics of how it works yes i have then you can start building and i don't have that basis yet i haven't played enough of it sure and and by me playing with the the the preset decks that they give you all i would learn is that i'm getting blown up it's it's the equivalent of playing the say well we always tell people when they play fighting games play with somebody around your skill level yeah right i don't have that in our stone i have a ranked ladder that blows me the fuck up because i suck so well if you keep playing like that eventually you'll settle at the bottom and does not use a true skill like system uh ranks 25 to 20 you cannot lose points you can only gain

points yeah and then you get to 20 and there are bad people at 20 that have decks that i don't understand that just blow me up instantly okay and casual there's one that's casual that isn't ranked but that's where all the crazies go to grind out their decks so rising thunder yes okay and and once i have a better grasp of it yes i will start building my own decks but for the time being that is a fantastic resource okay uh rig game just hard to get into now if if if you're like me and don't know shit about card games did i play anything else did i watch anything else not really i've been playing some more of here as a storm in yakuza but those are both still great nothing really of interest i maxed out all of herica's little side jobs good that took a while uh creepy handshakes

and running games are over with uh and i uh i should have i didn't want to because i wanted to be my own character but i refused to copy any of matt's answers in the comedy show and oh failed that particular quest because matt did it perfectly oh wow yes wait what herica yes herica's comedy show side quest oh god you did it perfectly and me trying to not be and i'm not gonna use matt's answers i failed it and everyone because i got nine everyone's like oh you uh so what did you get like is 90 the highest you can get on that show that's the 90 is is the highest you can get because honestly there's something weird when i when i was looking at the the footage of yakuza that we did and like i kept skipping past all these boring men to look at how much more fun ish not fun but like

unique herica's stuff it's so out there i never played a game that was like that and i look at that game show i'm like fame there's nothing like this there's nothing like it or i don't know of it she's fun yeah she's great can't wait till the game comes to pc and you can mod it so she's doing german suplexes i can't wait till they mod cure you and all the other characters out of it yeah it's just that campaign with her on the box all heruka that would sell yeah no i would i would gladly play yakuza seven at this point it would have to be yeah is just herica's story yeah she learned ikeeto because at this point it's so compelling like she's so and that's not even a joke willy like i think you're you're rolling your eyes a little like okay yeah no no herica's the

shake and because especially for people who i understand the appeal of herica's types when you were saying no she's not nanoco type and she's grown up yeah okay because she was nanoco in the first game yeah the other thing is like for people like me and others that have played every single game that's here every like you because of one two three four five in the series they went we went from this kid being eight years old and being a shit and annoying yeah and then every game she grows up a little and like one day we'll get the game where she's the main character yeah we we spent all this time and we we got this payoff it'll be awesome but i should be awesome somehow i doubt they're ever gonna do that yeah they're gonna do that they're gonna make her a

character and an idol and never fight because she has to be the pure innocent one that's a hero until they unless they do both at the same time yeah idol by day fighting crime by night yeah so she's uh she's samurai girl samurai flamenco girl yeah flamenco girl she has to take up a gun yeah take up the way of the gun then i pull out my gun uh are you just doing trapped in the closet yeah basically let's take a quick word from our sponsors the theme is x files no it's not the theme is invasion this week there's just a month there's just a lot of x files based ad copy in the ad copy what's the theme for the x files base yes the s files but if you buy an x files base the theme is x files the the base will invade you come on scully we have to get into the moulder mobile

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what are you talking about people believe yeah it's not your fantasy thing that's one of those no real sight that's a legitimate possibility that's a real thing dude that we there is organic matter in snick meteorites and it's quite possible that if we ever find a single germ on mars that that is the most likely explanation for life on earth all we need to do is find one germ on that whole planet and we'll find it you're out there we'll get you we're good at it because mars you know how many germs we find every day mars what at some point in its lifetime was earth like not a lot like yes that i've heard right more similar to more similar to earth than you would expect there was an atmosphere there was water of transfer though this it's old it's from the 70s because do you

get these snick meteorites which basically means a meteorite with a bunch of goo on the inside with ice on the outside yeah it's gotta be it in it it's not when i say organic matter it's not cells yeah it's carbon and a lot of broth okay you that's pretty close that's pretty close a good place to start so if mar if life on mars was the atmosphere of mars was able to give birth to like something it would make sense that the distance to travel then it makes a million times more sense it's way easier to have some of that blast off and hit us than for the same process to happen again here from a couple rocks away instead of yeah maybe all life so lucrate thanks lucrate thanks great promo code super matt what's up you're matt um so you know it's something just

as depressing as making a murderer what gem in the fucking hologram yeah i heard you vomiting from my house yeah um this might be the worst movie i've ever actually seen like okay you say that every week you say that every week like all right hold on okay yes we need scale we need relative comparison so here's the thing is that it's it's more so than than normal because there was this kind of lie about this film that it was partially being crowd funded maybe not crowd funded but there were taking a lot of uh uh suggestions from gem fans and so on and so forth and there'd be lots of back and forth and like the movie is it could not be literally less like what anyone would want from a particular franchise you have like but clearly you you don't mean like

mannose the hands of fate you mean like uh content wise okay so glitter from justin to kelly so so no no no worse than that um could you take the movie and remove all mentions of gem and soften for other things and it would be a just a different movie i'm not sure if you guys know about this 70% of this movie is found footage what the whole youtube thing the youtube angle no because they also just have cameras too and they just found footage right 70% of it that's a lot the other part of it is like actual movie okay but leah met a good question though what if it was not called gem in the holograms and it was just called like some girls it's the worst yeah i'm not looking for the quality but would you recognize it as like hey that seems like gem or would it be just so far out

there diamond and i wouldn't mention reality girls it was not gem if it was just whatever jericho you wouldn't even recognize it you wouldn't really know because there is a bb8 style robot that is synergy and synergy is supposed to be just this gigantic like uh computer system that what yeah it's oh yeah there's a sci-fi plot yeah there's well i mean gem had a like sci-fi plot but they have to they have to go collect pieces of her dad's thing or whatever yeah no the actual story of this movie is not is not literally what you would think for any movie of this type yeah that's just let's say let's say pitch perfect pitch perfect is a really fun way to do the you know band music thing having a big rival at the end being the underdogs yeah fucking them up putting them on

blast at the end and this doesn't have that this is chase around stupid clues from your dead dad for no more national treasure than eight mile yes wow it and and so much so that there's no there's no third act wow the third act is let's have a show and then it's just kind of over and it just kind of finishes and i'm like there's a kind of a weird subplot where for first of all they change genders of the main villain from the the actual franchise it's eric rayman slimy businessman and now it's erico rayman slimy business woman i don't understand the point of the change just because i guess everyone else is intact i don't like i don't understand why that yeah you couldn't find you know a good enough actor they should have put eminem in it yeah should have got me

wrap it up in there as jim and you're watching this and it's fighting the free world someday his parents will be found and britney murphy sonic under you know what would be great to have in your music movie songs that were i i can't remember a single fucking song there is no song they last like 13 seconds can you can you see a line from any of them none of the eyes are being rubbed none of the songs in this movie about a group that makes songs have songs that the group been made well fuck that then it's all made up bullshit sonic underground shit i'm sorry that just ripped me right out of it it's it's i can't go on and on but it's the worst thing and then there's a fucking secret scene at the end that hints at the big sequel yeah did you get divorced

yes matt who's your your wife is a huge gem fan they reunited before the credits hit but there was a moment okay there was a moment do you got who here watched the last airbender i did i did did all of you watch it i did not i i haven't laughed so hard at a movie i have not laughed so hard i can't even remember there is a reason i'm bringing this up now because matt mentions the secret scene at the end that hints towards the big sequel yeah do you remember the end of that movie where they try and use the shittiest looking isla ever yep yeah that's guess what that's the exact same secret that's what i thought it was like get fucking hype because she's coming and you're like no i don't want it no

want that not like this the only thing that remotely made me smile is that like the movie ended is well yeah but uh well i want to turn the movie off like um there is a scene towards the end where the secret group appears and they're like do you think you can take down gem and they go well our songs are better and i'm like okay my my lip sort of quivered into a half smile like gem in the holograms should have been closer in style to like scott pilgrim it really it really stinks it could have it fucking could have it really since because the comic book is so fucking good the comic book is the exact same setup like yeah twitter youtube and all that shit but it takes the most logical thing like you're already kind of a band and you go against a battle of the bands towards the end

you went viral you blow their assholes out and you fucking you win take that and that's it the like one of the arcs of the comic book is called viral yeah it's good and we're there's never going to be another major gem thing again because this is sealed it's fucking fake because it's so bad time to double down on josey and the pussycats yeah so remember i said why this is so tragic because fans apparently have some input what that meant is that they asked fans for this movie we haven't made yet record all your really personal feelings about gem oh yeah yeah yeah how it helped you with like identity stuff they're expressing yourself and what gem means to you so they slap it in super lazy some of the found footage i guess yeah and it just there and i felt so bad

for those people that makes like imagine if there was a final fight movie that was this bad and then i put thing where i'm crying like in my haggar cosplay like final four uh final fantastic four yeah like that takes the movie from awful to offensive it made me feel really really terrible because i can imagine those people only what the fuck are you doing just a little uh some muscle roller for dildo thing exercise because it looks like a creepy sex thing no it's it's for after boxing everyone imagine it yeah don't worry about it anyway well he's rolling a big knotted thing all over his legs dude my knees are not great oh really still you i didn't know you had a football knee thing oh yeah that's how i stopped playing oh wow that's how he killed that guy i thought you

stopped playing because you're like nah football i got chopped blocked and like blew out my fucking knee oh yeah so there's an alternate reality and what she became a pro football player brennan williams in the cfl in the cfl willie no i would just no i wouldn't do that yeah okay uh moving on to a better thing better can we get to something good i need to get on um the last two episodes of the steven bomb were probably two of the strongest why did people keep calling it the steven bomb because they released five episodes in one big chunk okay that's why so you get bombed that week was it was was that what cartoon network was calling it on their commercials that's the branding as far as i know i should watch that to see if uh see if vigila turns against so i have to

i have to scroll through a whole lot of like random like spoiler images because oh yeah i know they're everywhere a ton of parodot fan art just started showing up out of nowhere because one of the care one of the new characters that gets finally gets introduced is basically jojo character like it just design wise it's just so amazing and the other thing i saw was like how did parodot go from this like super yeah it's so great it's a fucking cartoony she gets drawn so shittily as it goes on it's amazing ralph ralph wigging her way off camera it's great and that new show that's introduced which is the french canadian canadian eighties like the show that that discusses otp's i wish i wish that show was real because i saw the i saw the the camper it is in your heart holding

up a boots in with a green canadian flag next to us like oh man because like the only thing that's even remotely close to that i feel is like the raccoons as far as just yeah straight up canadian it might as well have been the raccoons and the first two episodes of this cluster of steven universe episodes were like okay they're fine but that's all i've seen so far really strong i was talking to mothman a bit about it and he was just like yeah no you're totally right um so yeah moving on to that um right after me and uh pat and uh wools finished recording something i went to the provigo this is after neruto this is after a naruto recording i walk in to a provigo which is a grocery chain up here and um just in line and i go that

guy looks familiar where are you buying at the provigo i was buying some packets of rice that's good that's good you get them yes i did uncle benz uh no well uncle benz bistro did you pick up anything else while you were there uh that was about it okay i picked up a bit of star starry eyes that's good because as i'm waiting calm down liam i don't know where you're going with this i don't know what to answer which aisle did you choose did you choose the speed aisle eight items or less no i was in a long aisle did you scan yourself then no no they don't have there's no scans i love those things i really i i didn't have as somebody as somebody who beg groceries for almost eight years sorry man go ahead i go ahead is there a joke i know we're

there is no joke no point and no goal we are we are just delaying your story for now okay i go ahead because we gotta buy time for the podcast man you don't really need to actually we don't we have the last couple podcasts if we don't if we don't hit three and a half hours then we're not doing it right i'm in line and in the line next to me i see a guy looks very very familiar and i look at him really carefully was it your dad it's not i don't even know who was it woolly's dad oh anywhere so i look at him i'm like let me double check and i look at you i look at this guy's knuckles and he has specific tattoos on his knuckles and i'm like that's how i'll know and i look and it's wwe's kevin owens just wow just chilling

just buying food for his family and wearing like a like brazilian uh like uh uh martial arts like so you ran up to him and got his autograph right i did not oh good thing i did it so you found out where he lived right well no but i mean i guess he lives somewhere in montreal but i look it up and he was trained and born in you know kebek and stuff and i'm looking and i'm like that's him that he's got the same tattoos and i'm just he pays for all his stuff there's like a you know his family somewhere most most wrestlers that wouldn't be a problem but kevin owens looks so much like that dude you knew from high school yeah he looks like looks like a million regular dudes well he looks like a tester friend that we had a french a french guy specifically and um so eventually he like

kind of goes away and he moves his cart somewhere and then he starts looking at his phone and i'm like okay i want to say something so i'm like i'm like half a ways away like like you know the big aisles that are like right after you get past the caches and the provok goes like one long aisle and i just go hey kevin and he turns out towards me and then go buy owens buy his catchphrase being like fight owens fight and he kind of turns like all surprised he just does like a fighting pose and he just kind of like then slowly drops it like oh okay that was weird and i was like i didn't want to bother and then he went on twitter and blew you up well when i i looked at his twitter like the next day and i saw some other fan or someone said hey owens like i came to say hello

to you and i asked for you to sign an autograph after a show and you said fuck off and he goes yeah i did i'm like okay this was not the type of wrestler that might have you did you did the right thing that might have acted kindly so i thought that was fun it's it's fun like when you know like i could have seen the semi zane maybe like the Montreal i like having that little like like kind of ability to run into a rustle i was walking down the street and i saw sand man what was he doing he was buying drugs or berry harrow it's and uh finishing off with the rustling talk i watched a bunch of uh rustle kingdom 10 holy shit the match with aj styles against uh shinsuke nakamura yeah was the highlight of it for me i haven't watched every single match so a couple

tweets saying go check that out it was amazing and it's just just as entertaining as rustle rustle kingdom always is now did this event take place immediately after the body maker as well this year the body maker was that because remember the last wrestle kingdom nine took place immediately after the previous event the body maker i don't know that's what that's what the last ngpw event was beforehand uh but watching it made me really excited for like it's so weird that there's k fab rumors that wwe were like oh did we just sign the king of strong style yeah and aj styles and like two other guys from the bullet club oh there's rumors swirling here's a picture of thin baler wearing a bullet club shirt walking out of the wwe studio why is that here's save your woods going to

an arcade and having a versus bullet club video like where they like they totally matched up across the thing on his official channel might no less mind you that's that's like i don't understand just just do it like say it yeah here's sakurai walking out of vince's office what does it mean it might be a valve sony type thing it might be i guess so but um we're just friendly it was it was such a fucking good match and i think both guys are fucking incredible and i was telling pat this woolly i'm not sure if you know this but you know who created the bullet club who formed it originally vince mcman fin baler oh he also did that oh wow like what the fuck oh he created electricity too that's his stable he made video games yeah thomas edison and ralph lower so baler's like 90

percent everything so so he left there and came in on nxt already a superstar basically basically like you know in another land but huh when you conquer one well no fucking wonder he's on top there yeah that makes it was really weird the the announcing team on russell kingdom nine this fucking i think i had jim kelly it was just kind of like a really nothing guy that used to be in wwe like you didn't get jr again not jr jim kelly and matt striker i think i might be wrong definitely matt striker but they had another new japan russell there i forget it might have been i honestly forget i'm sorry if i'm forgetting but um they would he wouldn't say anything because he speaks english but it's not his first language so he was shy so he was kind of shy and then you

would see so transparently the announcers would go hey what do you feel about this he's like oh i'm just trying to watch the match i don't have anything to say yeah because i my english is you know fairly limited like like that's what he's trying to say and they're like hey hey what do you have about this match of rivals and you're not in this match because you're injured or whatever the reason was he's like not much idiots i'm trying to watch the match and he's sound annoyed to me after a little while that's weird that's an fgc problem as well where they put like like a tokyo for example speaks fantastic english really well i'm pretty solid you know and a bunch of other better than we speak japanese better than you would expect you know and and like you put you get them to do some

commentary and they're really shy but like it's uh it reminds me of when we were in japan and we met a guy uh kato san at the place and he's like oh my english is not very good i'm very sorry like how are you guys today they're like fuck off your english isn't very good your english is as good as mine yeah yeah yeah totally you know get that humility out of here so they usually like it's either what you need is like you need to get them fucking loaded up yeah lap chi style and just then they do amazing yeah the best one you get great english too yeah or you just get chris who just doesn't give a shit it's a big problem you don't scare well you can give me a favor i'm gonna talk about my last thing but can you look up when is the royal rumble this month i don't know i'll look

enough because that'll be leading to my next point but really quickly the only thing i really had time to play i was actually put in some time into i know this is gonna be when's the royal rumble gotta ask google hold it up to the mic it was perfect fantastic thanks it's january 25th thanks jerry at the well spargo center in philadelphia putt insolviate okay because we might be able to job cortana we might be able to google god damn it we might be able to go because you mean to the theater strong yeah yeah we might be able to go to the theater version because if you if anyone from new japan's gonna show up it'll be there

it's a fucking rumble you want to be there live if only we had a nearer to the ground so uh if only we knew anyone who would know anything about this but we don't unfortunately we don't hey woolly how's your football injury no connections nothing uh the last thing i put in because i saw it i saw it on a neil gaff topic saying prince of persia sands of time on the is the best thing i thought i thought your account got on ban for a second i did it never will um too many not after that unforgivable porn you can say that should have posted it that i put so blaze blue photo is post history seven signs trailer no one wanted to see it oh yeah i just talked to someone today about that anyway about seven signs specifically but whatever i put

some timing because i never quite finished that game prince of persia the forgotten sands on the we which like for my general like money to say the most balanced version of that entire like forgotten sands thing the we version is is strangely the most balanced where if only it looked better it would be far and away the best weird but like the 360 ps3 version was always fine to me but it was so like bland are they different they're completely different god damn it how many also was every version is different dude and they're all good and doesn't they're all good doesn't that one use the jake gylan hall it does not oh well it doesn't use his face model but the costume that he wears is similar to what the jake gylan hall war gylan who it does look similar to him

though like i don't know if they actually on the cover on the cover of the on the fucking box it looks like it's his morning it's his first for the 360 ps3 one but maybe that's just me i don't but they didn't want to make sands of time because the movie was sands of time yeah i know how to make anything but that game was just really really weird and like but it's still the most compelling version of it and it's actually quite difficult and like i kind of thought the 360 ps3 one wall is it tougher than the psp one uh me it's about the same okay it's more similar to the psp version so like a good challenge because it was made by usof kebek oh really like prince of persia well because i saw someone like holding up a banner for prince of persia and i was like yeah

since we apparently ubisoft now has once nothing to do how do you feel about prince of persia being dead as fuck i just said that like i'm not great if that the holds true yeah well no there was a point like years ago where i realized like it like matt specifically like he's into prince of persia like the world and brand and not just the mechanics yeah you know welcome to the life of somebody who cares about shining force yeah well i really hope that uh that snippet of the rumors is really just that artist's opinion yeah i hope so too because i mean some artists at ubisoft you know i hope that's what it is there's a lot of those they're good ones too i mean it's kind of what spur me to like even want to be a concept have you seen a ub art yes if only they had some kind of artful

engine that we've only now yeah it's a shame it's a shame we all know it ain't about that all right no connection to wrestling although uh good on them what was cool is they put out that little um thing where it's like hey if you want to uh cosplay as an assassin here's all the details of like these yeah i never saw it like i saw that like a how-to almost it was yeah it was like it was like a costume here's where the end scenes are and they had the pictures and like it's like an info glass you never get to you know that's pretty neat actually yeah a lot a lot of people do so and it always looks really cool please represent our franchise please assassins you know what we should look up bad ones yeah yeah we should look up bad ones because even if you go white hoodie and

jeans you're just desmond yeah well he's bad one yeah bad one yeah hey woolly yeah what did you do with your week woolly well uh almost played and and and did like almost nothing except for watching make a murder yeah murder one of those weeks yeah oh yeah yeah i forgot i forgot this is this week because uh fucking tech a technology strife plague the the techno virus the techno organic virus found its way into my house it was your turn so you know um i mentioned last time that my tv crapped out and i had to replace it quite old so eventually the new one came and when it came we're looking at it right now it's very nice yeah thank you congratulations uh yeah and uh 2015 and you know once 2016 but once i this thing was made in 2015 oh really oh no i assume so

once i plugged in my computer you're like yeah let's get going we're gonna record Naruto today yeah we're gonna do the we're gonna do so much work really so much work today i set it up and everything was great it was you know i left the house for a bit and i came back and it was fucking dead and not the tv that is the computer was giving me nothing even worse because the tv you could go this is a busted model get me a new one the display was just giving me nothing at all and i'm like okay it's been a hot minute like maybe 10 years since i've had to open up a tower and go in and do so you know you you went online and you asked us like hey what should i do and like i had very limited advice to give is like okay clean your drivers use the integrative that was like

eight to ten hours okay because i did my full diagnostic right and and nothing what's the prognosis doc i get you know i would get a boot i would it would give me the the bios was fine but you can see it as soon as windows loaded up bam right nothing and then eventually i was able to narrow that down to video card was just not like specifically and video drivers were just taking a shit yeah uh and but from there it was like then it was at the video card i don't know maybe ran out bought a new video card shoved it in and you also try the integrated uh the integrated uh graphics chip and that got you no no no no the default windows drivers were fine okay new video card to shit all so okay it's not that not that right that's the worst so you're just going process

of elimination down everything and there's a there's a point that you hit where it's like one of the wires is bad inside and i'll never figure it out yeah so what do you do i pulled out my CMOS i reset my bios i i fucking i went all in with everything i knew how to do uh i saw a fan not spinning i replaced the fan yeah got nowhere nowhere so that that's so weird to me because if anything really bad happens with me like that and it hasn't really yet i mean back when like i was living with my parents and i had old pc towers like whatever but we try to do it but it's like that sounds like so much work and i'd be so overwhelmed i'm like well out the window it goes yes but but remember when that's the final remember when when that's my first when a game doesn't work i just sit there

and tweak until it happens because i'm used to that yeah me i mean well you probably have more experience now because of this no i i mean i've always tinkered and i built my oh really okay i don't build them like i can i can repair them to a point prior to getting that laptop every tower i've had i've built then then you are way beyond me there you go so i i feel stupid but i even bringing that up but i fucking like you know couldn't figure anything out so i'm like i give up i'm tapping out and i'm and this was like pretty much a this was a full like 24 hours of just sitting there tweaking later so down to the shop it goes and the shop busting and over to the shop and ask where you took it because if i ever have any problems as old you can tell me later yeah no it's

i mean i took it down to microbytes and i'm not proud of that because they're all here's the thing if you had a car there's not that many options if you had a car and you had to be able to drive a friend of you that would drive there is one better place it's frosty's frosty's is the best frosty's is the best but i'm not gonna get frosty's is hard to get to frosty's it's on the fucking reserve it's on it's on the native reserve so they don't have to charge taxes on anything and those dudes know what the fuck they are doing and they get to like do anything legally almost because they don't give a fuck because they're not a part of our territory i remember when i went and bought a new pc there it's like how many games you want loaded up on this like are you sure it's like

ah they can do shit how many bags of cigarettes you want well the cigarette thing is like actually a nice story how many you want you want some fireworks no thanks dude the best those those dude are the coolest so obviously couldn't get out to that no had to get out to the store that was closing within an hour down the street hey you guys fix this so exactly go in deal with that guy who's the manager who doesn't know anything about computers that guy and i just go can you just just give me your test bench for a bit i i'm probably gonna buy something just let me and he's like yeah whatever and so i do it scratchy voice and we all have to learn how to do this voice no and and you know and and like i get fucking nothing but thankfully other good to guy who

knows his his shit comes in that guy was there when i bought hard drive from that place and yeah and guy who knows his shit goes all right leave it with me and do your thing i'll fix it so no not you left it with him went to record the vault with you guys that was a fun time got the call and it turned out it was the coolant which is something you would never i would never have checked that yeah i and it's stupid to consider it's like it's a component i just didn't look at sir it seems your coolant is just coca-cola because yes because i never had this no yeah i never i never used coolants before this this rig so i always would check the things i knew you know check your mobile check your vid card check your g what do you what do you do you look at one button yeah exactly and

it was like said check your mobile mobo yeah use it what's mobo motherboard yeah anyway you didn't save a lot of fans of you but oh you're thinking about mobo could have just said motherboard so anyway uh yeah like idiot me for not for ignoring that's not idiot you but that's not that's not genius you yeah yeah that's a good point there's a very large chasm between those two states so here's what i here's what i now know if you have a water coolant system uh you need to seriously maintain your your dust output input you need to make sure your fans are uh exposed and are rather all the same brand because you want to not have different types of consistency consistency you don't want to have air ventilation that's different uh and every three four years you

want to just make sure the water is in there doing its thing it hasn't just evaporated away because then you need to go and service that yeah so general pc maintenance that uh is a little more stringent because it's water cool basically yeah i'm i was happy to kind of like find out that you know my my building chops still exist somewhere deep down because it's been a while that must be gratifying and i'm also too lazy these days so like i would probably if i couldn't figure it out with at the chopper whatever i was i would have just scrapped it and gone all in on because you have a nice window right there you know but um okay sorry i'm just really in love with the idea of like someone's walking outside and they're just this giant pc tower

like those gifts online yeah you don't you know scrap it means like cannibalizing the parts that work and yeah take what you can get south use every part of which in this case would be 95 percent of it yes no put it into the salvage section of your menu and then you know grab the junk parts see what comes out rebuild yeah right so use it yeah and though and then that's literally my entire and we're back up to speed and uh you had a little fun adventure that was uh now that's the most miserable like because will he add some work on his plate so we're all like okay well we'll take it whatever like no let me make sure that i'm that's like i'll grab ff 10 and then i'll grab this and leon will grab you know and everything will be fine and then like that day the same

time day that we're all being magnanimous and be like we'll do it you get a call right before that conversation it's like no pc's fucking fixed go that's good at least the because hey we offered weird where we're good like it really like if you're here it's literally the only real option that's well outside outside of like hanging out the nose like a best buy or something yeah but not they steal your porn but like i'm just i'm just saying it for the deluge of comments what why wouldn't they just copy it why would they cut and paste steal it assholes but i've heard people say like and i've had my own experiences were like yep they help me out and when everything went fine or holy shit i'm still fighting a lawsuit with them yeah well my thing

is i don't know enough about laptops to like go in and service them the same way guess guess what you're not supposed to here's that you can throw out the window yeah you period yeah you don't it's a totally different mentality because it's all built in and there's very little you can actually service if you're not the manufacturer or a very dedicated laptop place yeah i i actually i did take it i'd won my laptop acted up i did take it down to a place to check it out uh i think like it's it's near your place like micro steve i think it's just that one little mini shop where it's one guy sitting at a desk i don't even know is that the place i wanted to go get the hard drive replaced it's it's near it's near actually where you used to live mac micro steve

or something okay no okay macro yeah no i know i know which one yeah yeah you know and you it's just a little old guy just sitting there like oh yeah i'll take a look at your laptop i'll fix this computer and he did it you know i'll delete it all your board but yeah oops i stole it i stole a copy didn't pay why didn't you just cut the white why did you cut no why didn't you copy no it's mine now you would have got away with it too it wasn't for that meddling porn i like all this andrea and dot matrix porn i'll don't even joke everyone would like that andray was how does fuck season three yeah damn you you just came out to the defense her boobs are huge she was crazy it's like i'm a we watch a kid show and this like like stripper fish girl is on the screen

you're like whoa willy willy whoa never forget when when they were in the andrea game and shark dot was swimming away and bob was checking her out yeah well i'm not sure if you know but andrea season three andrea is like neck and neck with lulu for me huh okay i enjoy them that's a good place to be but the belts uh i like those does lulu ride a motorcycle at any point she does not she just gets knocked up andrea takes it i guess she takes it we're all winners what you do man what i do yeah i watched a thrilling netflix drama what which called making a murder which you guys may not have heard of called chef's table oh i started that it's fucking good you finished it yeah it's fantastic yeah i'm familiar yeah okay go ahead um so it's just it's the guys

that made giro dreams of sushi yeah oh i see giro and it's really it's really raw high quality food documentary food and a lot of it is looking at the ideologies and the food sciences behind these different chefs and their ideals it's not a cooking show it's about these chefs and their innovative ideas and restaurants cook the cook the food that's your job and in a way it's kind of a biopic on the chefs but also uh a bit of a documentary on the restaurants and what's so unique about them because it's not just like hey this restaurant down the road is the best restaurant yeah or like like schwarz is just good restaurant schwarz is overrated it is one of the sick there each time it's still delicious as fuck it is at the time yes it's it's it's an undertale of

restaurants like one of one of the episodes is all about this this chef uh who's all about everything being sustainable and and stuff like that and how that plays into the local farming market can i can i ask a completely ignorant question of course what the hell do you mean by the chef's ideology well for example that's one of them where he doesn't he doesn't like how farmers are treated right now which is something you might you may not be aware of but yeah like right now you you farm for quantity and you farm what people what companies want okay and that's it a part of a part of and for example one of his ideals that he uh he shoves out to a farm well he shoves he asks a farmer and the farmer says shoving it out and the farmer says i've never been asked

to do this before but this is great was he asked him can you make tastier squash okay and the farmer was like wait you don't want bigger no i want better one i can make that's not that's not what farming is about i can make bigger squash that's like a gripe because when i well because when i heard you say like the farmer the not the farmer the the the cook's ideology my brain was like your ideology should be make good food you shit cook well no there's way more to it than that yeah no no like world star three miss lin star chefs that are fucking super super famous are dudes that open up restaurants and they usually have like a concept mission statement right yeah and their menu represents a concept that they're trying to like express and what i i don't know it's not like and

it's not like high thought bullshit like like it's like you see it and you're like yeah of course that's just that just makes sense it is pretentious sometimes right you know it's only it's only pretentious if you interpret it that way i don't but it's their beliefs my their act their my ideology for this restaurant is nobody should be seen smelling their own farts so some guys are more genuine than others is kind of what i'm gonna get sure and like and like i think uh the the guys that i've seen in like the first couple episodes of chef's table you're like no this these are this is legit it goes all the way through but in the in real life there's there's like asshole dudes that's what i'm saying that's not what this is yeah and this is like really good stuff you know

old man zero was like it's like a a a a huge exploratory event you eat my sushi yeah like i have to make sure that you have the greatest time of your life whereas some other chef would be like i want to get paid no that's a very it's a very i want other people to have a good time it's a very similar kind of thing yeah and a lot of storytelling and a lot of bullshit restaurants will like fake it with the plating you know they'll just kind of present something or bring it in the like like the the the you're paying for the setup and the delivery of the meal and like the weights presented to you yeah as opposed to man what is going on with the food well it's not even like faking it with the plating it's like it's like watchdogs right you get watchdogs and it's

a big bombastic triple a production but it's just normal and they're not faking it yeah it's just it's just not yeah yeah you know what i mean you're right that's a better way of putting it yeah yeah in the end it's just and like this is about the chefs i mean i i won't lie i won't pretend i know about oat cuisine or anything but this is about six chefs who are who as far as they present it to me who are special and they they substantiate that very well in each episode and you learn a lot about them as a person you learn about the restaurants and the kind of stuff they want to make and they're very good at demonstrating the idea that these chefs are really worthwhile because you want to get you want to get moots at l you got to go down to the moots at l farm

right that's the guy the old man and scrape off the edge of the giant barrel and taste that little piece right on i think i was that was parmesan reggiano or whatever yeah yeah yeah that sounds really interesting because you get a little bit of this as the rind by the way as not actually a barrel you get a tiny bit of this that's part of the cheese okay yeah exactly and like just taste it yourself a component by component on shows like chopped or whatever you'll get like one sentence of each chef and they go uh i want to be a good chef because yeah because my nanny forget all that my nanny taught me to be a good chef or my wife wants me to be a good chef and that's it and then they move on then they do the thing forget this is like forget any show you've seen on a food

network it's not like that my natural cynicism has combined with 10 seasons of kitchen nightmares and you're just like a food in order to create this mentality that even i am shocked by the level of cynicism in where i'm like you need dramatic reality because they're all just they're all just foofing it about like pretending so that people think their their farts are big for it well look one example is like the first guy they introduce is like the italian man the italian guy he's a chef who his whole philosophy is i want to bring food to the to my restaurant that is like what my grandmother would make and like the stuff that would fall from like her her table almost like i'd be under the her table while she's making food and i'd steal snacks at bread and like i want to bring

i want these people to eat like i want that i want people to feel that sort of thing so when he made that uh in italy in italy they're like what the fuck you're just serving up house food this is garbage you know and it didn't take off but it took a while for that idea to actually attract outside people yeah not from the hometown because it's very specific you know so that so that guy no no i mean well no it just took a while because it it fought ideologies of what traditional italian cuisine is from his city or his town or whatever you know so that guy like that was he he went to gain because okay so for example we are not into food culture we're into game culture yes he made a big elaborate open world game with no combat or exploration yeah it would probably get rejected

because it was garbage that's what he did was it fun that's what he did and it was excellent but it was initially rejected like like for example near which is a game that has like a 60 on metacritic yeah it was it was rejected initially but now it's like well food's delicious then what's the the people that it's people that were the ideologies that they're fighting like for example the problem for example like deadly premonition like america fun okay but it was fucking rejected by almost gone hand go go go like like like what it was super rejected how many things do you see on gun control for example what where listen where you're like it doesn't make sense to have gun restrictions as lax as they are and you see obama coming up and like tearing up over how we need

more gun control because he's fighting ideologies that exist but we're talking about food but you're but what you literally just said but was was it fun and in this case it was the food good or were the gun restrictions good yes they were okay but the existing ideology has to be fought so so the the question is is it fun is like because i i get what you're saying right here's the context right the people that were initially patrons of this restaurant that were eating the food all grew up eating this type of food anyways okay so to them it wasn't special there was no reason to go to a restaurant for that i did this but if you are not from that place to you that would be an excellent night out so oh this is so unique and he also did weird things to it too yeah yeah he

did some weird shit yeah dropping the food the the um i forgot what the soup was no soup the dropping the the the the crack to me uh thing or whatever yeah it was really interesting but the but the whole thing with like the game bit was like if you were to make an analogy if you were to make an analogy with a game it's like it's not a deli premonition analogy is like you made this food with terrible ingredients yeah no no in the case of is it fun it's like it is fun but it so goes against what you're expecting when you buy a new game that's a triple a title that you're like what do i make the actual answer is if a game came out and it was a master craft yeah and everyone everyone who cared about games rejected it okay for some reason and then years later everyone realized wait no yeah that's

dumb people shouldn't know people outside of the game industry but would recognize what it happened a cult classic in a similar way where that guy should never have been made a murderer yeah this food should have been accepted and people are dumb and people i think you're jumping a little bit on that all right i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know check it out check it out check it out check it out moby dick yeah yeah moby dick came out failure yeah right didn't do shit in the book only i tried to read that book i don't think that yeah that's only the point only picked up and became a classic piece of american literature after 20 years after the guy died or something like that right so it was like at the time

that's a lot of creative stuff right outsiders read it and and got what was going on and basically at that's the point that it picked up steam and like got accepted for what it was but the culture at the time was not looking for the type of material that guy was putting in oh moby dick doesn't seem very good that's not my point i is it no that's my point okay okay pat all that matters is if it's good or not okay pat they live but that's not was giving bad news when it came out the reason i brought up nobody liked it let the reason i brought up to make a classic now is because there are people in the world who might not see something for what it is or who are idiots or who do bad things well they shouldn't do that but there's something going why do you care about

to make a murderer the pat why are you just pointing at that show and going well why did they do any of this there's a part of this that it's gonna it'll take a while first because they're corrupt and evil it'll take a while to get to it but for podcast purposes usually in real life we talk for another like 45 to an hour of course but until we until we figured out the exact part of this where it's like oh pat has a thing where you simplify this thing that's probably a bit more complex into a binary switch food is good or not yeah so it's your so this is a thing where it's not as binary so let's just not have this fucking no it's not worth you know what i mean but but it's a really good show i i totally it's a really good show but i'm gonna watch that because we'll probably

watch that and enjoy it now check out gero james of sushi first if you haven't no watch searching for general so now now all it'll do is make you go oh i need general tau chicken now can i ask where you've been streaming that from your ps4 your xbox one my computer your computer okay good because i was going to say this this show does support 4k which are monitors we have well and if you use the built-in netflix it won't work on the tv yeah you'll get your 4k well did it because i don't answer the question yeah okay because the first thing you do you pop in the netflix on the on the computer on the tv and it's like do you want super crazy ultra 4k hd netflix can you handle it it's four dollars more and i'm like i will pay that four dollars yeah i will die on this hill

i want that four dollars the perfect extra price because you're like it's 4k yeah and you know like not every show is on it but like there's a good list of shows that it's like yo this is a 4k all their exclusive stuff now is is getting getting that except for the stuff they're localizing like all their original productions and then there was the like here's your 4k fireplace channel yeah here's your waterfalls video channel man i don't get it definitely uh oh no i accidentally dropped the baby into my tv no i watched a lot of this joke i watched the baby turn black now i watched a lot of agdq who did i expect you also did pat did you miss it did you miss it again no i didn't miss it oh you didn't miss it same thing that happens to me every year i went on and i was like

what game are they doing what game was it battle block theater nice i was like no the only reason i didn't watch battle block was because i watched it last year and then i and then i went in and was like oh i heard bloodborne was going to start at 6 p.m or 6 30 and i showed up at 7 and it was done so i'm like oh okay i'm including every every time every year i i the the game that i go to look at is something that i don't want to watch and i don't care about watching games that you don't care about or whatever i'm throwing on the docket a list of apparently some of the the great moments oh sure on the i haven't i haven't gone through it yet but no apparently step mania was there is so much good so mania was impressive and then i tried to find the bloodborne thing but it was too

soon after it had been done brain age with chat velocity 2x oh nice okay so velocity 2x is not only really good but it's a new world record oh awesome yeah also the okay that punch out by the way is a blindfolded race oh nice oh god that must be so good which is a really fun watch so apparently these are pretty great and then of course is the mirror's edge there's the the dark souls mirror's edge was really really good i watched it for about 10 minutes and then i was done they made 1.2 in the end i believe wow one point two million yeah splatoon was splatoon was interesting because it was the first time anyone really saw splatoon outside of that speed rent because it's so new yeah you know and it was all right like it can it can go places it was interesting was it was

more of like proof of concept no no they there was some good like good skips in there okay super mario maker is one that i really hope they bring back in the future i don't understand how do you do that well it's like well it was it was fantastic mario players blind playing against each other okay that makes sense uh and unfortunately it was kind of a landslide in one team's direction and it kind of it kind of spoiled it yeah that's not super fun i really hope they try it again because the format is fun were they were they competing on the same levels yeah okay is there a massive playlist somewhere of everything in order everything i know but but when i tried to find it during the thing yeah it didn't exist the video that i just moved on to the screen yeah if you

click on that youtube channel okay you get there but no the the reason i asked yeah because when i tried to find blood born it was too soon yeah don't worry everything is being archived i don't know at what pace but everything's being archived because i tuned in when they're doing don't count country two and went oh shit now everyone's got to watch my bullshit yeah yeah i got i got mirrors edged out of the way nice and really happened last time with the resident evil three yeah the the um castlevania bloodlines run was like so fantastic it was really really good i need to see anyone that like wants to tell me maybe to save me some time uh didn't i'm not sure if murphi gator might beat him up god played anything on this agdc no if anyone knows if he did please let me know

man i feel really bummed out i should like this more than i do whether you know you should just try just leaving it on next time i left it on for like 90 minutes and all i saw was set up in 10 minutes of battle block theater that's a poor time to be on then yeah were there any uh were there any i would really like you to stop talking right now moments not that i that's the late night stuff not that i saw yeah okay because remember it goes like 24 hours so yeah it's pretty crazy i was a little pat it's a said it and forget it thing that's all i was a little bummed because like i never watched terrible luck i never watched the the final fantasy run that always ends off one of these agdqs uh because they're so long and they go into the like wee hours of the morning

so i always ended off on super metroid right before that which is usually what the end game is and and this year's super metroid was it was it was impressive but he botched a bunch of bits and it was like not not as strong as like the four man races of super metroid and stuff honestly though like i've seen so many of those runs over the years even before agdq that it's kind of like if something exceptional or interesting kind of happens i want to check that out yeah if it's a normal one then i kind of you know yeah two really good ones that i totally recommend was the mr gimmick race uh was really fantastic you were hyping this up last week too i know i was excited for it uh mr gimmick race was really really good

really good uh and matt you know the game battle kid the nes game battle kid well you might know that title okay so it's it's it's a homebrewed nes game from that's why i don't know it i don't remember quite a quite a few years back maybe 10 years now uh and it had you can buy carts for it and stuff there is a battle kid two now uh and just of peril yes and there was a run and it's really good by the way about look at battle kitty looks like liam ms paint art arts the art's not so good the game's really good gangrubs have played it there was a run of battle kid two that was like that was a game i did not care for at all uh fantastic amazing run really really entertaining stuff the player was so good um yeah so yeah that's um favorite run of the entire series

it was it was a bit of a standout but like there was so much good i think castlevania bloodlines is my favorite i really want to the castlevania block was really strong cv4 was all there was a whole castlevania block see yeah that's what past talking about i missed that i didn't even know what was going on yeah like because i there's a dual yeah you know there's a schedule but that's the thing this is the type of thing you actually have to do homework about to see what's going on what time you know let's say like i want yeah and even then even if you do that things get delayed something was delayed by a significant margin this year i think i'm not sure we gotta hand out like like best or best run that i didn't give a shit about until best yeah until you know that's battle

kid two that's like like was there an alien soldier run maybe uh you don't know yeah anyway um and there was a it was a really funny super mario 64 co-op run uh with the i heard about that the co-op mod that lets one player play as luigi at the same time that's awesome uh what uh that was a funny run those guys were really good handheld didn't the ds version no that that little battle it had like alternate stuff okay that was i remember i remember new like luigi models for that yeah and the only two games i put significant time into this week were uh echo night uh which is like a fantastic uh horror mystery from software game on the ps1 uh really good i stupidly bought a retail like disk of that and then i'm like oh it's on the i don't want this yeah i should have checked

well what are you gonna do uh i really really recommend it but if you do play it if you emulate it change those controls to be something more modern if you buy it on psn uh you can do that on the vita and you could make it like a proper twin stick game uh but if you're on ps3 you're gonna be stuck with stuff like hold l2 to look up and hold r2 to look down and stuff like that yeah well play it on your vita tv and you'll you'll have a fucking good time okay i am seeing things on this list that i should probably look at for agdq there's soma in like an hour yeah yeah every dude every every year there's a list of that that doesn't strike me as anyway i played volume because volume i was gonna say i'm i'm i'm assuming yeah i'm about a quarter of the way into volume

it's just a rock solid vr missions game does it you want does it sorry does it pick up yeah no it's well vr missions and the writing the writing's interesting in the same way that thomas was alone had really interesting writing and what do you mean it's a rock sell off vr missions game it's a stealth game uh weird vr missions basically it's all like metal gear vr missions yeah it's almost exactly like metal gear vr missions okay but although more like go um but you're a block but no but no no you play as a character in this world really zoomed out camera though so it's kind of like the ghost babel missions okay it's it's really quite good though so if you need a just a solid stealth game that's play that trumpet there's a game that got all of the achievement and trophy

names are fantastic by the way there's taffers there's shadows of moses there's tons of stuff on there there's a game that was released on steam not too long ago i think it's called espionage or clandestine and it's it's a co-op game it's stealth one person's uh like a third person controls them the other person controls cameras that's cool and hacking and you're supposed to help each other they turn off this camera now so yeah go through um and it's on steam i don't i think it's maybe it's probably online but that's a cool it's a good name that's a good name yeah clandestine yeah but the volume is a stealth game yeah it's nice and brish the uh there's that motherfucker that sounds like steven merchant i i can't believe how you want some you want some

god damn british voice acting it's so close it's yeah it's this is good all right that was it that was it all right that was it for me all right uh let's get into the next battle battle battle virtual wars all vr is dead online soldiers with headsets running into the battlefield become a vr trooper which are vr we are we are vr vr troopers what's our first vr story virtual reality who's it's like the fucking dog roll cold oh god where does vr troopers rank because it ranks below superhuman samurai cyber squad and that of course ranks below power boards that breaks below that ranks below beetle boards and that ranks below ranks below power rangers god damn i'm sorry to hear about that vr troopers yeah which ranks below camon rider in my opinion but i know of course this

is this is probably gonna be a good 20 minute guys why are we talking about vr because all the warriors have something to say if not a price point at the very least a comment implication so so i guess let's get it out of the way where are we all at on vr and art i know i'm gonna buy a playstation vr when it comes out yes before i even knew the prices in terms of what i was interested in i was interested in playstation vr i was not as interested in the pc ones because of the the limitations of having variable hardware and stuff like that how about you guys the place i go ahead man if i'm if i'm gonna buy any of them and right now i like right now i'm gonna say i'm not gonna buy any of them but if i'm going to buy one it's gonna be the playstation vr just because

yeah like barely even really closely related to it but at least it has until dawn rush of blood oh you but but they'll probably be something that'll be like really interested eventually right now there's not something that i'm like oh i gotta try that but like right now that'd be the one we're all we're all my stance has cemented from last week even further in that uh i am waiting for the the games i care about yeah that's the thing that will kill the rest of that that's the only way i ever buy any console is the one game that brings me in so tec and seven hatred so and i think our our our like opinion is all like a tacit excitement we're all we're all looking forward to it i'm not i'm not jizzing in my pants over here yeah i'm excited i will and i'm i'm you know

like with with the price points that are being discussed at the moment i am definitely thrown about i'm gonna you know i'm gonna start saving because that's an investment but but like it's not gonna drop out of my wallet until what i give a shit about is out so that's totally speaking totally fair of investments let's let's move on to the first piece of real news chronological order shall we we've got the first piece was okay the rift uh we said last week was taking preorders but not announcing the price and we made a joke about people coming to your your house and and ripping you off blank on you know you yeah you put in some money in your envelope and they say more so and we've now got a price that price is $599 yeah $599 us dollars that's the name so 843

canadian dollars holy shit i didn't actually i believe that doesn't include shipping that's right it's not included so this is the oculus rift package it includes an xbox controller a headset and a a couple other little dudas lucky tail lucky tail lucky tail i don't know what that is eve valkyrie and the stand detector for that you need to track your so everyone's heads reeled back like uh that guy in that gif with the computer yeah and because this is effectively the base set uh yes you know and like the poor man there were a lot of questions and everyone was oh i'm sorry that's actually 851 canadian well that's better than the rumored like psvr price but we'll get there and that that shitting you know yeah anyway we'll get there yeah so uh lucky palmer then

comes out and damage control time what do you say he comes out and he says well for starters i'd like to control this damage yeah for starters we we did a bad job of preparing everybody for how like what you sure did how much this is going to cost uh especially many times they've besides one horrible foible of his many times he said it was incredibly expensive yeah like last sometime last year he actually quoted he was quoted at dropping a price that was like half of that he said uh he imagined somewhere in the ballpark of 350 us dollars well too late you can never unring that bell can't walk that back you can't walk that back other than that statement he's always been really good at saying it'll be really expensive and also the kickstarter uh uh bundle

that you would originally get i believe was 300 to to pledge for that yeah and in the end so that led this expectation even with all the other quotes so and in the weeks building up to this he's been uh talking a lot about how we're going for the premium experience not the affordable one and uh yeah his statement was we're not making money on the rift yeah you won't yeah that that that it's that at uh um that the technology you're getting like that's actually a really good deal now just just to put this in the palmers proper context because the oculus rift is for your pc pcs are a little stronger now than they were like last year but the minimum spec also the minimum spec is for real yeah the minimum spec is not a trivial investment we're

talking at least a thousand american to get your your pc up to snuff yeah at least at least someone says is someone that's making any piece of technology that's supposed to be like you know for the mass like consumer base yeah and if they go we're charging you 600 dollars and we're undercutting ourselves yeah we will make money off it then that that at least you however you're doing things that means to me is that you're not ready yet well the the the important note here and you know he's been really candid with it even is it's not for the mass market yet it's still for enthusiasts it's for the it is for that one percent you're right it's open to the mass audience but it is when i say that i mean like not the military yeah yeah no i'm not commercial grade stuff

yeah and so what i learned yeah no when i learned when i when i like ragged my my my rig uh is that like it effectively is for the one percent of the one percent so was yours out did you after doing the test did you're say yeah you're good i'm in i'm in the you're in the oculus i'm in the one percent i i originally misread uh the thing and i i ended up having a higher cpu than i thought it i should be good as well yeah but if i'm good you're good we're not that's no like in terms of not a normal a lot of okay so we've said this before and there's been some like not mean backlash but like like what the fuck it's like people who listen to this podcast are a subset of people much closer to that one percent than the average person yeah definitely this is actually like

pcs of this you're listening to the one percent you have a nine seventy in your computer you're point one percent of the pc market but if you're just a kid trying to make it through high school right now you probably don't have that beast rig in fact there's a 99.9 percent possibility that you do not so yeah we know that so they already know that's on steam proven they already know how small their market is yeah there's they're telling people that are willing to buy four five hundred dollar video cards that they can buy a four five six hundred dollar vr headset he had a lot of things to say but i think the the the way they're looking at this is basically we need to introduce the technology to the world and get the race started there there's another go ahead man sorry we said

this last week where everyone's too scared to say their price it's it is scary because it is very scary and like i guess even though i think your price is too high um but you are super brave for being the first one to do it yeah because because then everyone else sony or five see whatever then looks at the reaction to it and goes well they can alter their prices accordingly and and if you make money if you don't make money for like whatever then you can just plan accordingly from that yeah so whoever does it first like hats off to you your massive disadvantage more balls than i have where are you gonna say i was gonna say there's uh an interest another couple candid comments that tie into what you're saying where uh there was an interview just after it where he was talking

about how he knew playstation were doing a vr thing before the kickstarter happened for oculus you know they were all in the same path basically and they've all talked and obviously and he said like really candidly yeah it's not a battle against playstation and htc it's a battle against consumers yes because because for all of them together it is it is in everyone's best interest that all of their competitors do well so that this market exists and and that's and that's exactly it like i'm i'm looking at this and the reason why i'm not gonna go like oh my fucking god that money is because you have to remember this is a new market being created right now this is a sweet play this is not the console market this is not the pc this is a whole new thing yeah i don't

want like i don't think anyone want like vr to replace anything you want it to be its own anyone it's on the side and and and anyone sit right alongside regular console sales pc sales and mobile games as the as a fourth yeah and and handheld stuff and anyone that thinks that this is a peripheral is mistaken no it's a totally different thing it's kind of both yeah it's kind of both it's both i i feel i feel like it's a platform well playstation vr it's hard to say that that's not a peripheral it yeah because it goes both ways because you need you need a pc or a console to use it yes you know i think um for now for now exactly yeah like until until you can just buy it off the shelf i think it's i think it's kind of both until you can head set into it yeah i

think it's kind of both though i wouldn't i wouldn't argue too hard on that until 10 years from now where i hear you i hear the pair of glasses that you put on just have all of it inside yeah with no extra hardware well at least in terms of like market application it's going to be treated like a new platform yes yeah and sony had to be sony went on on record saying that they are treating it like a new console and it will be console priced whatever that means so that was crossing my fingers on so that means that means we're talking the other day like 400 seems like low but it seems like kind of what if that's their statement that it's going to be console price and that's the expectation they've set and now this is the expectation that oculus has set that for sony

400 would be the sweet spot it'd be 400 450 so that means as to uh what would be the treaty of versai in the in the vr war here where uh we have the amazon leak uh that reveals the playstation vr rumored price point for time 800 us never believe a thousand eight four digits canadi so what it was on amazon canada and it was 1125 canadian yeah that's what it was or 1135 1125 1125 which convert at the time converted perfectly to 800 us dollars that's the price of two 3d os which uh once again three dos everyone everyone who was reeling back from that oculus counter attack just two or three fucking like double stunts now fatal counter this is what's known as a placeholder yeah no like like but i know we're we're that's the price it comes with a ps4 i was gonna say i know it's

really clear that that's the one we're most interested in it and this isn't just super hard bias that number makes no sense no it would sell nothing and and this this goes hand in hand with the amazon germany 599 euros for an xbox one the year before the xbox one price holder so cas jumps in uh immediately and basically says now it starts harry that ain't that ain't it that ain't it and the number's gone it's 900 but and then he does offer up that it will there will be a hundred plus titles at launch apparently that's crazy if that's true that that seems like did he actually say at launch uh let me pull it up okay uh because i remember the hundred i don't remember the launch because usually they say in the launch window yeah and then they just keep pushing what

launch window means realistic well no we'll have over one of the yeah what's the quote say yeah over 200 developers signed up for the psvr we're working on a hundred or more titles uh no no okay no it doesn't give a general yeah but that would assume within the first year or two that that's a number i can believe because like off the top of my head i can think of like 30 something so you're better at this than well titles that support it so including like tech and seven and yeah hundred foot solar robot golf for whatever oh shit i forgot sony remains silent but we know that it will be less than 800 us aka 1100 canadian they would they would be stupid to not use their their position with the consoles and all that to not have this device be at the very least 500

dollars if you price everything less very much automatically win yeah well like the the psvr has an advantage in that like people who are playstation owners are going to see that they have they have an ecosystem well and also already ready for receiving you also have to look at like cost from zero right what's the cost to get in from nothing and vive and oculus are going to be there's no math in the world that doesn't make them at least double what it would be for playstation vr yeah so it's on them to not fuck that up by making a 700 dollar device yeah i miss morpheus morpheus is a cooler name i also miss it's tricky too because i miss the the sega katana yeah i that's my i wish that system the nintendo nitro project dolphin it's tricky too because like yeah sony

has that ecosystem to work with and they make money off all sales of vr software on their in their ecosystem period valve and htc valve has the same advantage but htc also has to protect their best interest yes in in coordination with that and then oculus has it even trickier because they're going to be selling stuff probably on steam and through their own network um and they have their oculus studios they started up and stuff but they've got a startup from a 200 million dollar grant admittedly but nothing oh they're gonna have first party stuff really oculus studios they have to start by selling their own games on their most direct competitor which is a weird place that edge of nowhere or whatever it's called the insomniac title that they that's coming for them

that's published by them for example i believe it is anyway i might be incorrect i haven't followed their publishing plans too closely but oculus studios is a thing is a publisher then it is it like i said i haven't followed it too closely so i'm not sure what their publishing plans are i'm under the impression that's the case but i know they exist oculus studios and they're doing interact not interactive movies so we had the oculus price drop we are price announcement we had the psvr price we had a psvr weirdness scare and then we have a quote from htc vive yep about not an announcement of their price appeared but but a affirmation kind of affirmation of their beliefs on the price which was very carefully worded to be scary kind of well it was it you

know it sounds truthful to be honest is is pegged to actually from day one to be the expensive so so so yeah uh share wang i guess the ceo of htc uh basically yeah the rumors going around are that it's going to be more expensive than the rift and i think he quells those rumors pretty well there's a there's a there's a what was the fucking quote it was we view our htc vive as a premium vr experience something to that and we think that consumers will be happy with their investment i think i may have gotten a few words wrong in there and that quote but i very vividly remember the words premium investment and investment i i feel like that's a pretty accurate which are very very clearly chosen code words that mean this shit is gonna be expensive that's a thinly

veiled take out a second job and yeah and because htc htc and the vive are going for room vr yeah room space which multiple trackers which of course that would be isn't it isn't it just the lighthouse am i crazy no i think that's everything i think that's the part of their core design ideology no but what i mean is isn't it just the light like is it a single tracker the lighthouse that manages to do i i assume there would be at least two i i haven't done the research now now considering how fucking blown away i was wearing this thing i can own like that i feel like just because i was the the best didn't they delay this recently to incorporate a new technology it was an outward facing camera yeah that makes it so that like when you when you get

too close to something when you're moving around it draws like a silhouette of what's what's near oh my god that is for for for their device they want people to move around a lot that is vital yeah that you don't die that's a good one now well there's not necessarily a lot like you move around a little bit but uh i really it's a good feature moving around at all there's the likelihood of tripping on stuff i really hope that considering like that this seems to be the strongest of the three that this doesn't get left behind in the software department that's the tricky thing right because the other ones don't have the same uh they don't have freedom of movement simulation yeah they don't quite have the same feature set in that regard so the quantity of software so it's

gonna vary exactly i hope this doesn't end up being a nintendo on the outside situation here's what i see shaking out what i see shaking out is that sony's will be by far because of the price the most popular because of install based on ps4's and because of the lower price that one kind of only makes sense it's de facto the most popular and that'll get people going yo vr is cool the oculus will be the mainstream pc one in which there will be bigger better stuff by default because it's more it's stronger than if you're Kanye west you'll get the hgc but the vibe will be owned by very few people it'll be a high-end thing but it will have at some point a killer app that makes everybody shut the fuck up and go you gotta you gotta try this you gotta do this

so they all fulfill various roles everyone succeeds by everyone doing well htc5 gets to show off demos that make people shit their pants and i'm not talking like haha we joke about shitting i mean they will actually shit their pants in vr demos and you'll be go look this thing is so awesome it made this reporter shit his pants yeah and then that helps everybody and that's the question and then you're able to buy the art still though like in the past like whatever is traditionally the most like by far the most expensive thing struggles like for the longest time make the 3do jaguar the unless the neo geo all failed and like it took the ps3 the entire generation to kind of catch up unless blizzard announces that they'll have a vr mmo in development

but like oculus has a major advantage in the pc space even in just the name everyone knows the everyone knows the oculus your parents might have heard of the oculus at this point oculus rift is also the best name it's a fucking fantastic it's a great name yeah yeah so uh you know i i guess i just i expect the best i can hope for is like some great ports i i i hope and expect them to all do well in their own markets i guess in their own goals the only vr thing that would have a better name than all that is the have sex i i i can only hope i can only hope that we whatever you want i hope that what we end up with is a is a vr market where uh most of the software is available on all three and then there's some specific exclusives i you know what i can see

sprinkled you know the ideal like the idea future that you're thinking of is that this becomes the ps2 gamecube xbox generation and that almost everybody makes games for ps2 but if you want it to be better you can play it on the gamecube or you can play it on the on the xbox and the xbox doesn't have many exclusives but boy that halo that's a fucking game metal boy that metal wool boy that mecha salt boy that otoki too because the worst version of this future is one where everything is exclusive on all three yes yeah of course that is but you know by far the worst you know for playstation vr that's obviously going to be the case here's what's going to be exclusive like sony sony's opening a new studio they opened it already just to make playstation

vr stuff and then you look at stuff like uh like london heist and rig and that stuff's obviously it's going to be locked down here's what's going to be exclusive but third parties can do what they want like a shit load of sony titles yeah a shit load of sony titles while all of them are going to be exclusive and all the adult stuff will be exclusive to the pc ones yeah because you can because no yeah no no one has to stop the no one has to rate them it's it's actually oh vr dongers you mean yes it's actually like it sounds silly but that's actually kind of like an elephant in the room where playstation vr won't have any of that that's the neo gaff that was called the elephant in the room who will porn support best yeah well

hey get it playstation has had a lot of it's a big market let's look at sony's history with formats and porn they've lost a couple of them due to porn and they won one due to porn yeah so it goes both ways don't ignore the vr dongers don't ignore it i would be blown away if if creepy ass vr porn games came to the the sony i would love to finish the pirates trilogy in vr unless they change the rules completely it just can't it i think i think they should i was like i was this is a new market i was listening to a like a like a comedy podcast where it was like it's like nothing to do with like video games or anything but like they were selling vr on it like the guys were on it talking about just um the samsung phone one and just how like dude it's the next level of porn

bros you got to check this shit out like and we're like oh yeah sony sony can't be the only one not on the life destroying supercrack that is vr pornography so it's making its way outside of the gaming world you know yeah certainly hey it's your your internet bill says you're playing something called the the playstation vr and some sort of title what is that oh what should i tell it's a pornography game i was like if i would love to see the eras they're selling these games on steam vr and all phoenix drive vr and all of these games have clever names that don't clue you into the fact that they're porn yeah pirates what were you i was playing sod mogers pirates hey man that thing has that i think that has production value yeah yeah uh and then finish the

fight yeah uh and then we've got the other uh story that we should probably address the the uh sony's let's play trademark weird controversy i still don't understand okay so i i'm still i know i'm in the minority on this but i'm still convinced that everyone who is outraged is outraged because they're saying it let's play as opposed to let's play you know what i mean yeah so the first time i read it i read it like microsoft's jump in he's he's seeing it liam sees it as a brand like a tag line and so when people said let's play i was like wait you mean like let's play like i didn't actually it's the same words yeah exactly so yeah i can you think it's gonna replace um um for the players probably yeah but that's a good one you don't even need to change that uh so and the other

thing is that uh with that i found it also listed in that topic was like here's the trademark listings of everyone who has tried to trademark this it's like a hundred pages long slow b and they have all failed they all they all have like ship ironically underneath underneath the thing that all says uh refusal to answer summons about trademark or not file paperwork in time like 30 fucking like oh like it seems like hundreds of entries the term going back like a decade right um and also as of right now we found out about this and also like sony has been given a notice by like the trademark board that's like you need to come in and explain this because it's too ubiquitous and they probably won't yeah we'll see but this is the company that trademarked dreams yeah so they

can get away with anything i'm not too worried about it in the end i think i think uh we don't even use that god damn turn i think slow people say was able to settle for retzuprey yeah yeah uh yeah so that is a weird story i guess that's the weekly fake controversy so that has to be brought up lest we didn't know about it i'm not too worried about it worst case scenario you aren't in a situation we trademark this thing my video predates yours by 10 years yeah why would you even bother embarking on this yeah exactly oh you don't because you don't care because no big company would actually spend the resources to fight this why would they this at worst will be some shitty marketing ad that won't be the replacement for for the players now you want a real controversy

we can get into that oh but uh you can you need to there's a branching path here we can choose movies or video games movies for okay for variety sake pacific rim two oh can i go back and choose video game nope no you walk down this path and it sucks because i said well i would probably see the story regardless but i said of the story off the table officially like this is like god damn it shit this is gone why up and down up and down down and up the only fucking glimmer of possible hope is that there's a chinese company that's been courting um uh legendary because china loved it and china likes of course they love pacific rim so the possibility that this chinese company might buy legendary might lead to them wanting can we can

we please figure out a way to blame this on kanami yes i feel like it's possible but here's the thing china is the porn of the movie industry in terms of how porn is to video yeah if china says we want this to happen the movie industry will fucking do what they say one Guillermo enemy is as good as another no it's like Guillermo was so depressed over pt inside the hills that he didn't have the confidence to argue his case more eloquently and thus and thus this happened harder yeah but his soul was dead yeah his big greasy soul he should have brought like a like a like a model boat to the the fucking court case and slanted over someone's head yeah well i mean you know as far as konami goes a former konami employee a producer is saying give them a chance i have faith that they will

write their wrongs wait give who the chance konami konami uh and this was the producer let me get his name up there uh i haven't seen this this is uh yui chi haga who worked on castlevania lords of shadow and suikoden wow um those are two different games yes to the fans that to the fans that are upset with konami uh i'm a konami fan found myself i understand how you feel try to hold out on hope a little more if you can um and then they asked him like if he feels like they can they can bounce back from this and he says he thinks they can after some time like i guess i guess that could be the thing of like you know just like a like a phoenix everything's got to burn down first i disagree though because the statement that you're getting out of video games more or less to me is kind of like

yeah that's kind of a nail in the coffin yeah what i mean by that is like is he implying he might know something about like the higher ups wanting to leave or something like a former like that's obviously reading into it way too much but like i i can only think he means like wait for the big the big turnaround but it's gonna take a minute it's gonna take a minute yeah you know it's gonna get a big turnaround k o f yeah as soon as as soon as we get our hands on the new live action movie and anime coming out from the the again the chinese company uh oh god what were they called it just doesn't matter and they gotta get you know they gotta they gotta use that brand that they bought so you can't just make the new game you've got to make a whole video this is a stupid pointless path to be going

on because how can you top the original k o f live action movie so you just can't you can't a friend of mine were recently looking at kung fu movies on netflix and we decided to sort them by raiding and their dead last at the bottom was the king of fighters the fact that you've included it is stupid and netflix made a mistake yeah they didn't know so so all we need is they watch mad's video so all we need is the follow-up to this story in which live action tv drama uh i don't think i there's leaves me a self-opper there was actually stories one set of movie in one set of drama so i think it's conflicting whatever right now but i'm always down for another anime if bad k o f anime is controversial and if it's good all the better yeah there you go but i'm just continue fatal fury

that's the thing is it like you you you expect this type of thing to be followed up with an announcement that it's going to be a trilogy did any of you know or something ridiculous where it's like we overestimate the brand we've had so many wants to say no no did you guys ever like look into that stuff where like the k o f said hey steam sales helped but then it was secretly like pachinko laws changed yeah altered their business path i saw that story because i was not able to figure out why those pachinko laws changed in which ones did that would change them is they very clearly wore deep in pachinko and then went nope gotta make video games again yeah it was a fast turn and it was implied that like there was some kind of change to regulation of pachinko machines

that they then were like well oh that money's gone not not really like like that would be the only thing you know to really shake you out of it and it was like there's great news with this depressing it's not exploitable enough anymore damn it as far as anime goes it's the track record's not that bad right it's pretty decent you know it's pretty terrible as you probably know well i mean art of fighting we won't talk about but fatal theory and then the most recent thing being days of memories i was gonna say what samurai showdown i was gonna say what is the most recent one days of memories but what's sorry what's the year uh that was the release of k o f maximum impact two sounds like oh is that the one where terry goes to get milk yeah that's 2005 yeah it there's that part where

yori goes to use the flame yeah but he doesn't have the flame and he's like ah so like who's to even say how this could like this is where so many years past anything exactly and that was like this was like a 20 minute short watch it be a uh a 3d anime that uses the character models from the game be sick andy what's wrong with you andy what's wrong with your fucking maybe they'll explain why he looks that way hey do you have uh do you have mark laidlaw on the thing maybe it's just a webcam placed inside of falcoons apartment hey do you have the anime mark laidlaw thing okay quick news do you care about half life three anyone no care less because it doesn't exist because mark laidlaw fucking fired or got quit or something from valve so there's another nail in that coffin

but it's the magical happy perfect company land why would you ever and i love that article from that engineer that worked at val was like this fucking hippie bullshit is yeah oh it's a supercult but they have a great system well no i mean like it's totally like i want my own fucking desk and i want to have a place that i sit and i want to code and these motherfuckers keep moving their shit around and jumping projects and elbowing me and talking near my desk these mother like it was this was this great guy that just wants a regular job and goes to work and goes to work for valve when it was absolutely fucking miserable that's pretty funny that's pretty funny oh this fucking hipster office bullshit yeah it's not for everybody yeah it sounds like if it doesn't jive it would

just murder your your will to work some people just need a cubicle we don't we don't need we don't have a break room we have a ball pit do your work i don't want to fucking ball pit i want to have a break room i love every coffee and look at my newspaper like there's so many shows and movies that have their own interpretation of like the neo hipster company what is the name of entertainment 720 is definitely not your mix that entertainment 720 is is that but that was a made-up bullshit company that lasted like a month it's the other one that's on rafio's separate one afterwards no no Joe rafio is just the one that yorma to comb has in the last season i don't i don't know i'm i remember entertainment 720 i don't know yeah but that's not hippie um yeah

that's a lie and then you know and you get like the uh got like when when house of cards when they go over from the washington post over to that other yeah newspaper and it's like motherfuckers are skateboarding around and she like it reminds me of this amazing onion article that was uh douchebag hipster rides his way all the way to his internet job on his lap board and doesn't have a horrible crash and like people stare on in awe as this piece of shit doesn't crash his fucking pretentious lap board on the way to his bullshit end of the day though that valve handbook is fucking says man that does let's plane yes that's right hey i know i'm a piece of human filth there you go you know it we all know it people listening to this know it

like i know valve works on good games but like fuck i wish they would they they they undoubtedly work on a lot of great games that a lot of people love yeah but the problem is that that company has changed and they're not working on the kinds of great games that i want yeah like and that's where a lot of the frustration comes from speaking and also they left that fucking story on a cliffhanger yeah don't do that portal too oh okay well i'll shift my mind i think speaking of cliffhangers yeah we might be getting more deadwood what anyone care about deadwood here no my grandma did this is about doctor who a couple years ago it's a western it's a really good show it's a western yeah this is a really good show is it about a town of

peace is it about a western town of people that all can't get erections yes yeah yeah that's basically it like it's a really shitty old town western it's a pun because of deadwood okay well but no but it's like there is shit like that it's a fucking great show to be fair though from hbo as like there's at least three other series or hb i was like we're gonna make a movie one day and the most notable one we're gonna make a rom movie yeah that was like six years ago they were talking about coming god well luckily rom is uh long enough ago that uh you could make a movie those wounds have healed everyone's old now a two won't be the same he never says it no he never says it and it's the best he just gives him a look and you know uh Shakespeare was there he know

we've got that we've got the um yandere simulator uh developer yes is at a crossroads and he needs your help yeah so he put up a big poll of what the fuck should i do now he's been working on that for a lot longer than anyone thought he was and he he was very dedicated to making it the game that people expected not what he could make wasn't still is yeah no but like he explained everything that he wanted to do with the game whatever one expected and how it's a lot it's a lot of work if you could pull up the poll actually yeah totally but the main thing is he's asking should he jump to a kickstarter earlier than expected so that the game can finish well he wanted to do a kickstarter anyway yes but he's saying should i do it earlier than expected

so we don't finish in 2019 yes so so the various things are would he would he like options on a poll would he like you would he like to would people want him do you think i should take to speed up yandere simulator's development should he reduce the scope of the game and remove some of the features that he's been talking about give the game to a company which would be like the crowdfunding campaign sooner than planned like immediately none of these actions are good take a different one or do not take action to speed up development continue at the current pace release in 2019 yes no i i i said go for the crowdfunding campaign there's enough people who want it if you look at the quantity of people who voted that proves it and so the thing is is he was very

candid and he talks about how the reason why he wants he he wanted like you know he wanted the game to possibly come out in 2019 because he is very afraid that he this kickstarter will be looked at as a scam and that not enough of the game is done for him to put on kickstarter and while that is very noble this would be a very elaborate scam considering his development updates i think the the amount that he has now is so far beyond what everyone has ever put on kickstarter that i think he is being prudent and noble to an absurd to a fault almost the what exists of the game now could be released there's definitely you can tell with a lot of the updates over time that there's a there's a little bit of an obsessive personality a little

bit you know yeah for sure but i do feel person to me i feel like you know continue at the pace release when you're ready if that's 2019 i'm fine with that yes that's how i felt i personally believe that he is more than able to start a kickstarting campaign now and that you look over years of updates and progress and work and there's a lot of that game that's there that he's as far as scam and trust he is like more than clear in the public goodwill and as of right now the numbers seem to support that yeah now if you want to talk about public goodwill and kickstarter projects you know i do fire let's oh this these are good you did you set these up do you there's there's only one place to go from here where can we go willy beasts fury what sorry

beasts fury the fighting game the fighting game oh yeah what i remember that i was on there was on indigo where max million was gonna have benny as a fighting i remember they yeah yeah what about the indigo but it there was also a kickstarter so you mentioned it being on fire it's cancelled oh bummer oh no that's that's quite on fire it's cancelled that's actually it was on fire for a while and i didn't notice and now it's a burnt out not make its funding it did four times like it did four times so what so there's there's some controversy going on here really there's a lot of backstory to it which i feel like i'm not sure i'll try to do it justice but ultimately you i'll link i'll link to some other things you can look at you right yeah but uh the history of this

project more or less seems to be that uh before the publicized campaign that we saw there was actually two smaller ones that failed okay this was a third attempt that there's two indigogos and then a third attempt was put on kickstarter right that's the one that made 47k that was the yeah out of it was like 45 or something and the and then i remember it was fairly slim the success yeah but it made its goal yeah and then and then there was a follow-up campaign after that to keep it growing and that had a flexible similar to skull girls that had a flexible funding amount on it so it was just like whatever they're receiving plus there was a patreon i didn't know about the patreon so you're telling me there are multiple revenue sources for this

past game and we know that and we know that it took in over 50k okay plus a couple other things okay it was i believe made in australia if i'm not mistaken and so costs of living are extremely high that's correct um and that is an important factor in there but anyway but um a lot of the team was international though yeah there was people in montreal actually so it was very spread up it spread apart and uh so what we found out was that basically uh former voice actors and artists and people involved at the project like have been coming and going and mostly going uh and what seems to be the major problem was a uh people that were parts of the team and in different ways were either not paid when they said they were told they were going to be awesome or like kind of

offered insulting amounts or something along those lines great um there's also uh the crux of this seems to be that the main artist uh who was pretty much the one guy that was sort of expected to do a lot of all the the amazing sprite work uh was not able to and like it was just too much and kind of left uh and i think that like that'll fuck your project up one thing that i've realized about 2d animation is that one guy can't do it all and so unless it's um so another yeah so another former voice actor had a couple of years there's just a bunch of little things here and there but but that either way it eventually led up to the creator coming out and more or less saying that like you know like after having like a really shitty just a couple of years he just can't

sleep anymore makes oh no it makes sense that would that would fucking weigh on you i mean and um you know it's time to just to close shop that's now what people kind of were left wondering about though was do you then offer refunds you should or not like and the answer is like with what money to the best of your ability to the money that wasn't so well according to kick starters um to us which has been a source of contention for a while for a while but but what what it gets down to is like yeah when something like if you put up a kickstarter project and it passes according to the kickstarter to us you have to make the project and if you don't like you are liable for lawsuits and anything else that the backers bring against you that and that's if you

intentionally don't make the project and take the money elsewhere well i don't know if intent matters in their wording i think their wording is very much just you have to make the project here's the thing if this is their if they're wording legally whether or not they mean intent or not all that it says is the kickstarter does not tell you that you're protected from a lawsuit under their terms and if there's any ambiguity there you're not protected from a lawsuit and people can file a lawsuit oh sure yeah like you know their their hands are washed of the affair once they once it wraps more hey we did our job you didn't do yours so yeah no i guess but i mean this is a natural risk of backing anything on kickstarter yeah and that's the natural risk of

putting anything up on kickstarter as well yeah i know definitely and this is and this is the unwritten it sucks for everyone yep this is the unwritten rule that we know about certainly yeah you know but um yeah obviously you know some people uh come at it come at it a lot harder than others but in particular in this case i think they were as like i think 10 people that put upwards of uh like close to a grand or so right to it so now in hindsight in hindsight not even at the time they probably shouldn't have done that right but those that's a very substantial investment i mean well here's the thing right like well no i actually agree with pat i wouldn't put i wouldn't put that much money towards like a really unproven team

ever ever ever and i mean i can substantiate that because i didn't i gave these guys 40 bucks i actually did back but i'm gonna say that like forever and i actually didn't know that this happened but everyone every like the yeah and it's like that's a smart way to go about it but like for everyone's individual i don't think i don't know you're right that's an intrinsic value yeah i don't want anyone to feel bad if they like really care to hold on like let me just finish it i don't want anyone to feel bad if they cared enough to like no because that's an intrinsic value and if you feel like it's worth it you know more power to you but yeah i wouldn't certainly some people saw that like oh because there's the uh the ego raptor character that was going to be in

it as well yeah uh there's benny you know those for some people those are incentives that are like that's really cool i totally agree with that so you know i think that's fair all all i'm saying is that now that you wouldn't have gone no no no sorry i'm saying hindsight now that the project has failed oh in hindsight yeah no they shouldn't have given that hindsight's 2020 because now their money is gone yeah right and left with that i don't know say i had done that i don't know how i would feel i don't know how i personally or anyone else would take it and how much i would care about their particular development troubles because that's a lot of money to just disappear yeah and some people would be less rational and it's and it's a very complicated feeling of like well that was a

risk and it's like yeah but the risk for them is also that i could sue them right and it goes both ways so yeah i don't know i don't know if it's right or not to to to take illegal action when something like this falls apart well i i legitimately don't know what the kickstarter terms of use say for the i guess quote unquote like donate or yeah and if you know if it removes their rights to sue people for not delivering while they had intent to create the project you know i i really don't think intent has anything to do with yeah just i doubt it i just mean what i mean to say is like you know if if these guys were working to the bone on the project yes like if it'd be pretty shitty to get to get slapped to the lawsuit after that i think that's the kind of

thing that would factor into a court case yeah right yeah in a court case if it ends up being like what the fuck was that thing that yogg cast thing yogg's ventures where everything about it was shady and very suspicious and uh fucked up and it was a huge amount of money like in a lawsuit for that that would weigh against them but if you did go to court and say look we worked to the fucking bone and we just turned out we couldn't do it and was a thing i imagine that they would have a better chance in that lawsuit yeah and that is something for anyone who would want to sue them to consider the only distinction i so it does it doesn't matter in a hard rule but it does matter in the in the general yeah the field the only distinction i think that would uh would exist would be like if

it's like no the project ended and a day later we took the money and literally ran yes yeah yeah no that i think that kind of intent will get you killed instantly and that's that's the difference but murdered in the courthouse but but if but if you had a scenario which is totally possible and i'm kind of shocked it hasn't happened yet you had a scenario in which the game was going great and then the studio burns down and then the sun told you to stop working on the game right and the studio yes oh not not your son the sun the sun uh no but straight up studio burns down and backups fail yeah shit's gone like well the kickstarter failed and we couldn't do it and like if someone wanted to sue them in that situation they'd be an asshole and they would

lose yeah because no if it was like it's or you would hope that i guess that falls under like the quote-unquote act of god yes you know so well that's the thing is like a studio acts of sun a studio like non-indie would have insurance and things like well it happened it happened to hello games yes when they were that's why i'm right that's why i'm right that was when their studio flooded when they were wrapping up uh joe danger vita and working on early no man's guys rubro shits wrecked uh we talked about that story on this park i think they were in a basement studio and yeah like tons of shit got completely ruined and they lost a lot or whatever cd project used to be where in the middle of a war oh no that's um that's the guys who make metro last light

right sorry those guys yeah who are they again uh no one now it's like oh our studio is now a dmz sorry guys metro last light i'm sorry i was thinking of stalker i was thinking of stalker only the same thing we can't gosh i don't remember their name but yes those guys you know if war breaks out and you can't get to your smuggling kits like fuck holy shit and that's a whole and they make good god damn games uh yeah no super that's a that sounds like a hot mess it's unfortunate so matt the other day you what happened you said some words that haunted me and then i looked them up and now is it about jet is it about uh jet force gemini no it's about jet force gemini it's about a dog and that dog's name is amy yeah amy amy teras you and now we've got some pictures of the

limited edition first four figures am a teras you figure with light up spinning fire disk on a okay well he doesn't actually spin no it lights up though i know you're not gonna listen to me because this is coming from me but you know it's just a statue right of a thing he likes the fire on her back glows man fuck you i see i have to wait until there's real pictures because first four always doctors their photos they do they always do there's a there's a non-limited edition that's more pictures than it is needed yeah like that background with the what exactly there's no twinkles no fucking doctored ass photos look god rays coming off of her like but just her herself it looks phenomenal man i gotta wait and see because ganondorf looked really good

and then he shipped really shit fair like first four figures i feel like they have problems with like details the two that i bought i'm really happy with yeah because it's because it's what samus the gunship and and uh fierce deity link okay yeah deity because like samus and the gunship looks superb because there's just it's just like yeah round shit you know and they're good at round shit yeah it doesn't vibrate like that i mean look photoshop in full effect i understand like zero two samus looks terrible i remember oh she looks terrible in that photo too yeah well it's zero light light youtube samus is terrible vice what you made vice yeah when you didn't know about i don't remember about that well he's just browsing down the site right now

it's not the vice from valkyria chronicles so it's not the real one that it's just some fakes so nice like that's one of the that's one of the good ones shut your mouth vice is the coolest so moving on okay anyway you can you can pre-order the super cool amaturized i i as of this week i'm like again i'm gonna hold on to see like a final because like because they're expensive guys the problem is that once you start seeing once you start seeing reviews of people like they're already sold out they're sold out yeah because this thing won't fit up my ass one star and that's why i wish they were there's a shadow woolly yeah where's that on your fucking desk because here's the thing right that's why i wish they wouldn't doctor the photos

so i could at least look at them and be like no get fooled no get fooled liam but i don't want to spend four hundred dollars on a figure to get fooled get fooled first four is the kind of company that i would have created an alternative would have run like we don't make action figures or whatever we make statues high quality expensive fucking painted well then you'd work for sideshow because sideshow is actually the sideshow collectibles yes yeah top tier but but first four kind of sticks to games and like sideshow does movies and a bunch of other stuff yeah but they do games but they make their money because they do movies licenses and so on oh man that's so cool anyway i talked to you about this in a video you like didn't believe me and then i was like no

look at the photos i have i have a breaking piece of news it's not that uh it's not that crazy but it is goofy as how it came out valve just accidentally posted like a life three a partner like an episode of metal wolf chaos no they posted a corporate partner like like uh like announcement in some fucking vr page that they weren't supposed to about the sales of the winter sale and flash sales are never coming back oh they're just dead dead dead dead yeah it's it's it's fucking grass the whole thing for not public consumption was it removed or i don't think well it's it's copied yeah now it's copied their logic sounds uh basically they have all these graphs that show that when it's not flash sales people look at more than just the flash sales like people

actually go through the catalog and look at stuff and ended up buying even more games the logic sound and it's been proven for years and it's that hey like doing ridiculous stupid sales like that is going to be detrimental in the long run well because nobody ever you train people to buy it the rule became cheapest cheapest don't buy it unless it's on flash sale unless it's the last day and then the last day nobody wants to spend that giant amount so instead people buy steam games when they see them do you think though maybe that's oops i accidentally our secret documents a little bit maybe i accidentally maybe a secret document it's possible but i don't know i just love it when like oh oh we accidentally posted this this corporate document that no one's

supposed to look at oops marvel contest of champions accidentally street fighter for multiple times okay holy fuck the first time you see spider-man doing chudley super ultra you you're like all right that's an homage but then you see luke cage doing codies codies you know and you're like you're just doing final destruction each shit i don't care you fucking of all the shit marvel's given capcom over the years with likeness rights and all that shit for them to turn around and just steal and wow for john marvel himself i would just like to point out steal from taca capcom i did not know i did not know that john marvel was still running the company you know it's a disgrace i tell you i was gonna say this is some mobile company stealing shit still it's this is some and fucking

shame on them it's still underneath their black and marvel should punch their brains out for doing it because that's like that is ridiculous let's zoom in even further shall we this is the guy that goes to wednesday night fights working at a mobile company that's a fan of street fighter that's like yo i like that i'ma do this i'm not gonna think at all how shittily this reflects up the chain oh it reflects bad bro i just the heart might have been in the right place but i just sincerely hope they were recreated and not lifted yeah well no no no no okay well you should look at that guy i only watched like once the kodi one it's he actually spins in different directions a little bit yeah i didn't really pay too much attention it's not it's not a hundred spider man okay the spirit

is there the spider man wants pretty but i mean like hey if if if like game designer friends we know want to put a little bit of um cashier into deus x what's the problem with that you know it's like the spirit's in the right place but it implements as you just ripped it off no exactly like there's a homages are delicate there's a fine line between homage and rip off yeah yeah uh because it's like like context works and in this case them using these attacks is like there's no good context for it it's fucking weird it's just they're doing these attacks yeah no a good example of homage would be the brand new attack on titan fan game not the one you're thinking of the other one a new one that will he's gonna play for us that looks like pretty impressive wow that does look pretty

impressive god damn this guy's doing some other stuff with it and like you he's got like the whole zips the zipline system is there but he's also got a wall running system and that makes it look really dynamic yeah so that's pretty cool if you want to have some fun check that out i put a link in the in the the description in the docket this looks dope as fuck yeah it's not this it's not the other mini sheebie game it's like a it's a totally different one but it looks really impressive so left and right click on the mouse are the 3d maneuver yeah that makes a lot more sense than q and e yeah the only another you know obviously the the question remains it's like yeah the timing of this with the new actual licensed game coming out is like is this game going to feel better

yes you know yes it will because it'll use a mouse and keep a mouse and keyboard instead of a 3ds yeah i'm like 100 wrong wrong game what the ps4 one it will use a massive keyboard instead of a controller sure sure done two analog sticks though dude you're like 3d maneuver gear is the kind of skill sealing point and click infinite device it's like it's like rail gun shooting yeah but with a mouse you can only aim one of your hooks and at a time whereas with the two sticks you could aim both if you aim wait then how would you move woolly yes how would you move the character independent of the maneuver gear you don't people don't move when they're in the air you can't move while you're jumping so if you're on the momentum would carry everything you do so if you're not

it you know if you're on the ground you're on the ground you're on your sticks is on foot and then once you're airborne and hooked up then it's your it's gravity that's okay well i don't okay gravity and inertia and everything else you're right i don't think you can't move in the air thanks for this mega man can yeah not me super fighting robot that being said the precision of a mouse will always be the other position of state well it's when you're aiming like this kind of thing like imagine how crazy bonna commando could have gotten if it was only peon pc like you could do some mean shit with like precision on that oh yeah and i'm i can it's great i want that 3d maneuver difficulty fucking rig i want i want i want this to control clunky and terrible yeah

no i want it to be when when woolly and i enter you or anyone start to play it we suck shit and fall down and we're like oh the controls suck i want and then we see a video of a guy doing better than anime movement i want to play it with a steel battalion control yeah you do yeah you do yeah you do you're right uh we've got um we've got updates on hellblade still no release date but it's going to be releasing on pc and ps4 same day that's cool so you can take your pick there uh still looks pretty good did you see their behind the scenes video a little while ago on their facial animation uh no uh you should check it out they're working with some some little european company i don't even know who they are um to do uh their high quality facial animation and

some of the shit they show off is really really cool and like levels above stuff any other games are doing okay really really cool stuff the the company that they're working with to do the animations they have two offices across the road and one of them is a small office that the entire office is used to hold the device they use for facial capture it's that big and they weren't allowed to film in there they weren't allowed to get any footage of it what the fuck yeah wow okay it's not like a machine but they're set up it's just so intricate and crazy are we sure it's not just andy circus's like sex nasium tent maybe we're not sure but like it's it's really cool and the um the fidelity of the visuals they're showing for her face or like you know what you know what ninja

theory congrats i'm legitimately excited to play your video game i'm i'm neutral which is an improvement uh well is there uh before we move on to emails is there any anime news in the docket no no there's not no anime was a mistake so there is one piece of anime news uh coming to the west is the fantasy star online 2 here we go yeah um yeah this is going so that's crazy that that's coming out here before the game which as we now know did not release in 2015 in the west nope again how i don't i don't actually think it's that crazy because licensing rights are different i think it's still kind of super good no it's i mean it's it's it's weird but it's not like clown shoes like bizarre i totally think it is but okay um how how are we gonna do this i i'm willing to

double down forever i think it's gonna come out and that's the point yes but liam you thought it was gonna come out in 2013 and you were wrong because you wouldn't do a forever bet the first year you can't win a forever bet liam well you know that's bordering on cheating in terms of that terms the gambit that is being taken is that he assumes you'll die but then i can't pay him anything if i die he wins what okay like i need everyone to shut up and redirect their attention please to the deadpool poster i'm putting on the tv have to link this this is the strongest thing i have seen in so long that i can't handle how fucking strong this is that is another level of marketing

it's it's a deadpool poster advertising that it comes out on valentine's day and because this doesn't play well on the podcast it looks like it's a mushy romance rom-com it looks exactly like a romantic true love never dies they took one frame of the forest gums font where he like before he gets transformed and they photoshopped the background to be all romantic and it's like and it's got like the nodding hill style title you got your two characters smiling at each other over a funny light they're in love they're two attractive people like a romantic location if you remove the logos if you remove the logos and change the word deadpool to anything you wouldn't think it was a romantic comedy change change it to the backyard that dude

that marketing is like hyper next level bravo and kudos so weird this is coming out of fox one of like the worst handling like super movie studios in a while oh my god that's so good that's crazy that's amazing i'm glad we ended with that that's that was strong okay all right um how do we fucking follow letters yeah oh wait what there's no there's no conclusion to the bet i said everything i'm gonna say which is i'll pay you if you want i tried to pay you in gold when you wanted silver last week and we're trying to give me too much i can't take and i'll gladly double down if you want to go here's the deal i'm not going to double down this year i'm tired of this all right i will i will give you two options and you can take either you can either pay me the

80 bucks canadian which is way less than you tried to offer me last time or you can just tell me that i was right and this thing will probably never going to come out in the west no and that there's three years of proof of that i i'd rather pay you the money because i absolutely think it's all right i do i do absolutely i don't have the money on hand i'm a man of his principles it was always more about the the what's in the bet rather than the money well that's why you know i wasn't in it to make money off that's why i just tried to offer you because i don't actually want your money for sure backed into a corner through various dodgy sketch methods wait what i'm talking about liam he was backed into a corner pat has both his legs and arms on

the wall pushing me into the corner what the f*** are you talking about after after trying to dodge you finally you finally cornered him for like from like getting away from this check mate for another year because he would have doubled down forever what an amazing hero until it comes out you know yeah yeah that's not quite forever yeah liam like that mega man game that they've been working on all this time all right there is dude there's probably there's one final piece of god damn it got a back down from that argument that's relevant to to us in a little bit near and dear uh there's be so much f***ing crazy united front games is shutting down sleeping dogs try at yeah i saw that united front games doing the thing they should have done in pre-production

yeah that that was uh never too near and dear to my heart no no but it was near and dear to hearts it was near and dear to our jobs to our paychecks and our rent yep uh tell you what they basically said people didn't like this because it wasn't sleeping dogs too i think that was the sentiment from like day zero literally the first second people saw it i could have told you that and in fact i think i did i think we both did now if only the same path can happen to nosgoth eight people are playing nosgoth actually that much can't be said for those people are dirtbags i think that's been see that the the you know if you're a fan of can't uh can if you are okay keep going if you're a fan of legacy of canan lynch um the most unfortunate

thing for you is that nosgoth is actually a decent game and it's actually doing all right so legacy of canan lynch is super strong whoops defiance whoops all canan lynch if you want to weigh in on the the the bet situation you can send a letter to super best friend cast i want to read i want to read at least one email next week about the bet situation i want to see yeah sure especially if somebody's blowing me up honestly with the word i want to see what the word on the street is yeah yeah what's the hot topic on the street about the bet of nothing fast forward to season the bet that i'm making a murderer yeah montreal kebek but i understand from god damn it what if he says yeah you're right and then gives you money and then

no i don't want the money if he says whatever whatever it is he loses the bet fucking i don't care about the fucking dumb bet anyway um next year it's announced to come out i would i still want i would keep no but i would keep like that's why you would double down every year but it's infinite i know but what if the next year he wins that's like the mega man thing if you just put no hard limit on any time-based statement then it could be true eventually wow shocking truth i'm not challenging people to bets yeah and that's christianity then you shouldn't have taken it taken it it was literally the only way it was the only way and i ended up winning three years that email to superbestfriendcast at gmail.com that's super best friendcast to gmail.com if you

think that Liam is is a slimy contrarian or that i'm an overbearing stupid stubborn piece of shit asshole send that email in it's gonna be a lot of mail next week yep and either of those no they won't no they won't what are you talking about hey you tell me that there's not gonna be a lot of email about that i will bet you i will bet you $50 no yeah yeah no uh anyway i'm just not gonna say anything it's fine no come on say something guys just like yeah Jesus is coming back next year man i got money on it i got money on it next year every year or that's like apocalypse cults when they're like oh totally totally and that's and that's why you go okay what day they go this day and you go okay cool i'll bet you your house then jesus comes back on that day

and then they go and steal a homeless guy and they dress him up and it's that whole larry david episode with the with the with the with the very very it's quite a lot right okay totally uh Liam get that puber hair stuck in his mouth woolly drink moxie wants to know drink moxie i was just wondering did liam complete his 50 plus games challenge in one year oh yeah so yeah and has he said a new one he's a huge failure so it was 52 one one one for every week rounded out basically uh yeah i did it oh wow i did 52 i didn't do more than that well but i got 52 okay let me ask it when you were three days to go did you go shit i got five games left and burned through a bunch of short ones no uh assassins creed syndicate just kind of happened

to finish two days before the line wow yeah so no no fudging the numbers it was legit no not really exact and i was i was actually scared for a bit like four weeks it's for the first 20 or so weeks i was really ahead actually it just happened to work out that way yeah and then i started getting pretty even and then i started getting a little behind in november i don't know but in the end it all worked out follow up question from alphie who wants to know if you have any ground rules on this uh 52 game any ground rules so okay so i know different people do it in different ways doesn't cast if you've already started a game for me all it is is a it's to work on the backlog it's not about a contest or anything it's just so i can get the backlog burned through at a pace

you know what i mean it's not about how many you do it's about the how how how much effort you put into that night's work yeah and fighting the fine and if i got to the end of the year and i only did 50 or 51 i'd still consider that a success okay um but yeah if i started a game in a previous year that's fine as long as i'm finishing them and taking them off the unfinished shelf and putting them on the finished shelf that's a okay for me that said i am not like getting 10 games to the 90 percent point and then just saying okay you'll wait till next year or something like that i i'm at like 15 or maybe even lower nowadays because i play i play big giant games and i've i've become i've been quitting more and more at games halfway points or two-thirds because i'm like no i got

everything i needed yeah out of this well you gotta play Prince of Persia for the PSP yeah my that came out of nowhere and that might that was over quick that might have something to do with age because i noticed it happened as i got older my my busyness has given me like uh like a preference for short games see that's that's really weird because like you and matt and uh woolly and matt you guys have you've gotten older you've had you you've seemed to have more and more trouble to dedicate yourself to like a big game like a big crazy like matt's talked about like he'd like to get into like a say not persona specifically but anything of that length wolf inside is probably the longest right my beat uh but it's like he wants he doesn't have the time and like as i've

gotten older the games that i play are getting longer and longer yeah but uh it's weird because because like dude what's going to compare to like the life-consuming game that was Street Fighter 4 to me like that was literally a competitive thing that i that changed and altered the course of my life well that's the worst let's find out in three months i well that's that there and more like one or two yeah two two and a half two and a half two and a half three quarters but but i guess to answer no it's february it's more like a month march it's like it's march now it's like it's like a month and a bit oh because it used to be february something but yeah i guess to answer the question like no hard fast rules just like i want to just get some of my backlog out of the way

and for February 16th and for like rhythm games and stuff like games that don't really have start and like end points i would just go by the trophy list okay if i got the trophies to like 100% yeah i probably could mark that as a finished game because i played it for oh not that i would stop but just uh you know for progression sake all right we got one coming in from david uh he wants to know their super deep throat friends yeah you know it you got your new high quality mics so show us how deep your voices go well woolly just i can't hold on a moment and base it up yeah everyone has to take their own separate thing i got you all right no you're not allowed to do that that's cheating oh wait well pat's doing it so hey is that me good job pat let's just tell me

go ahead we're all based up you did it pat hey we're all pretty based up in here i can't believe i was far beyond mutus but they are beyond you i am eternal i am the rocks i'm terrible this is the way to do it this is the way to do this is the thing you say it's a body massage body who wants a body massage body massage and uh woolly for contrast for the rest of the podcast kick us over to mid-range mid-range only mid all mid-range oh you want to you want to try out that yeah i really want to try out that that that that that sound i'm a big fan of all mid-range oh that sounds terrible oh no why do we sound like we're on a radio yeah do i sound like i'm on old-time radio here welcome to the super best friend casting all right then the nando elves are continuing

the shitty podcast that sounds great actually i i want to do a whole lp in that in that oh quality well we do a lot of them like that no i mean uh wait i'm still on mid-range and everyone's back to normal now leaves on mid-range i saw mid-range no you're on base but now you're back up yeah perfect okay um no the thing of the thing with the mid-range is like if we ever played something that was like uh old-timey or like earth defense sports or techno e we could throw that shit on and sound great sound great am i back to normal earth defense no none of us all right we're all fucked up this is what happens or way of the samurai would be a good one yeah fuck it we're sticking with it we're sticking with it we fucked it up oh i hope it's not this is what you get when

you ask microphone questions mark the frog wants to know what your favorite comfort food is cereal it's i almost finished that before i heard it cereal my favorite comfort food do we include shame food in here yes i don't want to talk about this godfather nachos toothpaste that's not toothpaste nachos cheese flowers meat and guacamole i got so what you eat every day i i don't have nachos very often he's very he's very comfortable in fact my joint that i used to go to down the street shut down yeah that's that's our fault so now i have no solution we brought willy uh chef on call uh we yeah we brought the fgc in there and we ruined that yo did you see that chef on call has matt's peanut butter balls uh yeah they started this it's fucked up how about that's a good how

about you just make your own i well because i'm thinking of it like comfort like how do you even how do you define that comfort food is i'm having a really shitty day i'm going to eat the food to make me happy yeah get a blank not because i'm hungry sit and watch i'll play your favorite thing it's whenever you see a character in a piece of fiction that's it has like a tub of hodgin dollars that's why i refer to it as a shame food that i don't think there's ever a specific don't be better than us liam no no i don't think there's ever a specific one i know i know it's gonna be all nice and good and i have no i can just make his liam balls no no cuz because a little while ago i remember i grabbed a big thing of like super buttered popcorn and filled it and filled it with m&m's and

and uh honey peanuts okay that's that's that's actually way worse than us it was really good and made me feel really good about myself that story makes me feel good um but like there's no yeah i don't have a specific uh for okay specifically you just have it like rocking in your freezer until it's time cereal i guess that's right i scream if i feel bad so i remember one time coming back from college i felt really bad because like i was like oh i have no friends and nothing's going on in my life and um i i had like my whatever my cd player i listened to limb biscuit and i bought those big fucking chocolate muffins at the depth oh yeah the ones that are like huge 600 calories 600 calories and i felt fantastic amazing their texture they're so moist they're moist alternative

is a trip over a trip to cinnabon yeah oh yeah i haven't actually done that but like but like forget that day in terms of calories just forget it what do we have we had pop eyes one time we felt great about it when we're coming back from a con yeah i felt super good dude i'm feeling fucking great because like after the stupid holidays and after la and all that bullshit calorie garbage days i got back up one to the thing and i'm like i'm down 12 since i started boxing and that shit's awesome feels great um oh there's two for me you already talked about yours no i didn't he did what did i what did i say uh flowers and um toothpaste no you what that was what he said yeah no uh if i'm out and it's a meal like the most powdered cocaine no the no the most

fucked up crack crack if it's it doesn't matter as long as it tastes good the the greasiest burger i can find like like wendy's like five guys no wendy's wendy's no wendy's is greasier dololo burger is it really yeah the dololo is so greasy that it fucking soaks through the sheet so guess what i discovered pat what's that you know how we think dololo is this delicious exclusive thing it's just in an out burger is it in an out burger is the same type of burger in the states but oh is it but tony dololo invented that burger 80 years ago so yeah it's the exact same type of crumble burger okay so if you were going out to the states there there's a solution yeah i went to an out if psx yeah if i'm at home then it would be cocaine no it'd be

cookies it'd be the president's choice chunk cookies or whatever the double chocolate now yeah i have a big affinity for the the rainbow chocolate chips now i should i should mention none of you have seen pirate cookies don't you like pirate cookie yeah you've you started hiding your cookie boxes no i started not buying them and i can't keep them in the house because it's a problem okay okay like i literally cannot have them in my home because they vanish because they vanish into my stomach now once upon a time matt would never be seen without a box of pirate cookies to offer the room usually during during like the early years or specifically during dawson street fighter meetups or whatever yeah i'd buy like a box because it was like hey i want to

like everyone enjoy but i want an excuse i want an excuse oh they're so good yeah i have not eaten any of those in like four months and i haven't seen i haven't seen any pirate cookies around yours either matt so i haven't yeah you didn't see them i was gonna say like okay like every idiot every few months i'll have a box but not all the time and these mid-range settings are completely redlining this shit super hard i'm getting used to it i like it no but look at the no no we see we can see yeah what and we'll take one last one uh from el who hey el who sends a letter saying do we have class this sunday yeah what okay no it's no absolutely you have no class on sunday straight up someone that's that's all it was that's great no you only have a class when

you're doing it's a monday we don't we don't have class l class is out god i want to know the story school's out for summer did l ever find out forever that's man you're like school in summertime school in summertime yeah bitch no class means you got no class okay that was that was very fucking uh john singleton of us anyway uh what is coming up on the channel and the uh there's nothing uh metal world metal wolf metal world metal metal wolf metal warf metal warf metal wolf part good and bad we'll be showing back up that was pretty funny actually that's turning my favorite thing i like it yeah no well but i want to see the bad filthy lp a bit a bit of uh bit of uh back end errors yeah on that scenario

leahman i are going on a mission we are going on another metal based mission not first mission what our first we don't need we don't need to get too far into it but we're going on before people get fucking psyched it's not front mission three it's not metal gear it's different yeah in some cases better shorter much shorter oh my god shorter than we remember and we we got a one off coming out as well yeah yeah me and pat recorded one as well but that won't be this week and matt and i did one off i don't know ours is hilarious holy shit i forgot we did it for james incorrect it for james and incorrect narrative facts continues because guess what the wronger we are the better it is the more power we feel woolly why are you trying to hide the fact that

you're reading the manga again i'm actually not but i do have some facts that i didn't drop last time did you did you see i may or may not have taught myself how to play haruka kanata on the guitar wow did you did you see naruto kai yeah yeah i heard about that a long time ago actually it's a project that's been around that's really cool it's like wow you you broke this down to 70 episodes i downloaded one it's like two hours long each it's because every thought they were like 50 that's a lot no every episode is a volume of the manga yeah so it's just the pure that's how i skipped to one part and had no subtitles was like well this is useless thanks a lot well you still got a bunch of gun them to check out yeah gun damn a lot yeah what are we what are we watching with

a friend of mine though so that's gonna be slow going yeah 79 you can you can what are you if you feel like fast forward like not going through everything you can watch the the compilation movies you won't get the whole story but you'll get a pretty well i looked it up zion started the war yeah totally sure so but not but it's more it's deeper than that the zabis started the war dude idiot whatever no it's no but but exactly welcome to the fucking depth that is it's not as simple as the chancellor if in world war two hitler got shot a year into the war and the war kept going i'm not gonna give a fuck about that get off my planet no if it's what if the what if the peaceful movement gets usurped by a bunch of assholes whatever get off my fucking planet

anyway anyway fucking zion pig what are you looking forward to yeah uh i was no i know because i know it's right around this time that matt's like all right let's turn those wheels i know i know i know it's fine we'll get there dude um yeah me specifically i bought the two more volumes of why the last man finally because i couldn't really it was having struggling why is he the last man because i'll find out why he is the last man because his name is yorick uh why i bought the next two volumes so i'm gonna try to read through at least the first one uh this week and i'm gonna try to like see if i can actually just power through the rest of prince of persia we just because so i have some sort of metric right in which to uh kind of rate

them all so uh nothing coming up for me this week i'm gonna keep playing hearthstone oh and uh oh sorry i was just gonna say like since we i'm not sure if you knew this i guess at least me liam and and woolly and maybe pat too would try to check out because i didn't know that assassin's creed chronicles india comes out between now and the next podcast that the side scrolling one yes yeah i well it might be the one that's improved because we are a long hope hopefully i'm actually holding off and you know why no i don't because there's a retail release coming out uh when russia comes out and i'd rather have to i'd rather have a physical sure but i'd rather not wait and see if it's better okay because then i could write off russia

no exactly so i'm i'm just gonna wait and see all three like this one isn't better than china then there's no hope for russia probably sadly sorry yeah i'm gonna keep playing my hearthstone and my heroes of the storm which are man those are unfortunately titled like they should do something that sounds like stuff you hate they nearly have the same abbreviation it's stupid yeah i'll keep playing yakuza i might go back to the uh the witcher uh expansion but i'm playing probably gonna mostly be playing shadow run hong kong and yakuza uh and uh next tuesday is uh dragon's dogma and resident evil zero dragon's dog's my best resident evil i know yep liam bellies in it uh i don't know i i'm dragon's dogma i'm oh no i i fucked i'm i'm slowly trudging through fable

the journey um yeah i bet you are at a pace that's not dictated by you it's it's snow it's not on rails but i'm going i'm slowly going through it and next i'm gonna am i am i muted now now is he's he's really slowly moving all the he got he got tired of this shit and he put us back yeah i don't blame him i can't hear myself very well but anyway uh playing through that uh is still playing some rhythm games uh and otherwise i'm gonna watch to kill a murderer or whatever the fuck yeah to kill a murderer i'm gonna kill that murderer exactly but with death i'm actually really keen to watch that uh that show for documentary that show has some wicked cliff hangers yeah and and likewise liam i'll watch uh chef's chef's table chef's table yeah yeah do you have a 4k monitor because you as well

i do can enjoy the pores of the food oh yeah oh yeah no no you the pores of the general town liam you've reminded me to to finish off chef's table uh i'm gonna be now i'm on a bit on on that like docu murder kick so i'm gonna go watch the staircase docu murder mentry also there's the the ice man interviews i think it was called uh oh that's like based on the the hit man nice yeah yeah there's the actual movie of that that's that mr cool ice oh yeah yeah mr cool so there's i think it's the new de caprio movie that's coming out in a while but it's about this dude that built a mansion like i think it was the 1700s and it was just like a death mansion and he'd invite people and like all the contract i think so i like i'm getting all the facts wrong

for sure but it's like he invited a bunch he had a it was actually a life mansion he had a bunch of architects that didn't know the plans to the place all work on a part of it and then get fired so that only he knew so he made a special mansion yeah and it has rooms where you just walk in and there's a secret thing where he can just watch him die that sounds pretty cool it's one of those guys named george trevor fucking crazy yeah so there's a documentary on him um all right i'm wait is it a documentary or is it sorry there's a film film coming on okay yeah but there are there are there are there is a okay that sounds interesting i do like you know kind of nuts he doesn't so um touch man gross stop touching my feet over and over again i'm looking forward to the

possible pending uh sparring match i might be having oh snap possible i'll be sure to be there to throw the towel in for you guard your throat i'll be there to make sure you don't throw that towel in yo willy watch creed but before you do i'll be looking for the second swallowing don't worry remember there's nothing cooler than dying in the rain and uh there's a certain anime that might have caught my attention that i might need to start watching is a gate again because gates back no it's not gate is a grenadier gates back no it's not grenadier are you sure it's not right are you sure it's not grenadier there's a little something words by is it by kyohani that's called the prince of stride yeah okay and i want to find out what's going on over there all right all right

sequel to tennis let us know see what's going on there okay is that about guys walking down the street was it that's the whole thing oh yeah run just let us watch you run let's just watch you run little girl i don't get it i don't get it i'll just keep running yeah great job i'm leaving what there's a tweet it said yo check it mirrors edge the anime and i was like okay okay prince of stride oh by the way while we were recording this podcast mirrors edge too was canceled well the catalyst was like oh it's online only and then within the podcast was like no it's not idiots so that happened god but that could have been true because fucking for speed that awful need for speed was always online yeah that would boot me out and kick me out whenever

wanted that's right fuck here's some music so so