Castle Super Beast - SBFC 131: A World Where Monsters Rule

Episode Date: February 9, 2016

This week on the Friendcast: Matt is absent due to CRYME, Pat struggles to not panic and waste grenades, Liam enslaves some creatures and Woolie becomes a Lucha mark.

What's the esoteric fact for the week, Woolly? I need it. I need it in my veins. 131. Thank you, Liam. 131. You guys are allowed this week. Holy shit.

131 is the episode we're in. Yeah, what? And 131, as an esoteric fact, is the ID3V1 tags in your MP3s. I sure do. So 131... They're a bunch of bullshit. Well, they help you identify your stuff if you have a giant playlist. Not if they're all fucked up.

Get your metadata. That sucks. Yeah, that sucks. But if they're not fucked up, then it's nice. And 131 is the tag-o-covalent for indie music. Oh, okay. So indie music is kind of right. So listen to this nice video podcast.

I have an esoteric fact about the number 131. Oh, do you? Did you know that it's the same backwards and forward? It's 131 both ways. I never would have noticed. That's crazy. So that's a palindrome number? I actually don't know.

A palindrome number. Is that a... A palindrome is more than they can go back and forth. Is that a robotic number from Alaska? What's that Pokemon? Palindrome? Is he just called Palindrome? No, Porygon.

You think it's Porygon? No, the Palindrome Pokemon. There's one of those 700 and some stupid fucking things. You mean you just... I think there's a lot who are like vertically symmetrical. But the gimmick is that he sucks postage. Honedge. I don't know, whatever.

Whatever. Honedge. Honedge. Age of Slash. Would it be Honedge? Double Edge. Yeah. Sordemon.

Sordemon. Yeah. Indie music. Whatever. Thank you from talking about the Dark Souls 3 footage. Wow. It's just we didn't watch it. Didn't watch it.

Okay. We're willing to wait. Before we get into that, we should probably announce that unfortunately there's some shit happening. Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah. That's fine.

That's fine. Nothing life endangering. But due to crimes. Due to crimes. Due to crimes. Not his crimes. No. Those are for later.

Yeah. But due to crimes, he's currently in an office talking to a dude, being like, oh! Yeah. It's crazy. It looks like it's crime time on Matt this time. Fuck off. It's today that is esoteric fact, 131 is the hidden symbol of dad jokes. That's terrible.

Fuck off. Oh, I gotta go build a balcony. This is gonna be a good podcast. It's gonna be a good podcast. If you look at it sideways, it looks like a shirt with boobs in it. Yeah, that's good. That's good. How about that?

How about that? Why did you even mention the Dark Souls 3 stuff at the top of the podcast? That's weird. I thought I was gonna roll into that, but Liam just had to get his new offensive front. Just had to. Just had to. He had to unleash the... You've been pretty aggressive with it sometimes.

So I had to step it up. I had to step it up. Exactly. Right? And where do I go from here? Start before the record button. Start before... Just start with the fact.

There's nowhere else. Expedited. No. The Dark Souls 3 stuff looks good. All of it. There's been a bunch of footage that came out. Like stream footage. How many words are in that trailer?

Or in that intro? Quite a bit. It's a lot like the Dark Souls 1 intro, if you've ever seen that. It's the same lady doing the voices, and it's the same concept where they go, you're gonna fight that, and that, and that guy, you're gonna fight those guys. And it's a bunch of backwards nonsense about the fire and the fading, and it looks pretty. That's cool. The footage, the actual footage, looks a lot better than the intro.

Like the stuff that's being shown off, the biggest one is that people are saying that even in the Japanese streams, and that this starter area that you always start in, there's a bunch of different weapon types. Cool. Including a great sword and a dagger. Do you know if one of the bows is early? Yes, there was footage. You could start with it.

Because the bows are made of them. In demons, you see that big dragon thing. In Dark One, if you manage to beat them with your fists, you get a special mace that you can't get anywhere else in the game, unless you use the crow stuff. Bloodborne, spoilers, whatever. Bloodborne doesn't have one. The only difference if you make it is that you make it instead of dying and then showing it.

Yeah. And DS2, like. But also, no, but I was also... How does DS2 start again? No. Well, you see the guy falling into the pit, but you don't really see any hints of Vendrick or anything like that. Yeah.

Right? Well, I was gonna say, but in Bloodborne, obviously, you get a shot of Gherman, so you know. Yeah, no. One of the things I have of really big note is that there's a line in the CG intro that is very much so this will directly connect to all the games and we'll finish it. What do they say? Seek the Paleblood?

They say... No, no, not the Bloodborne. The Curse, the Paleblood. But they call the location Lothric, and they say that it is the transitory lands of which all the Lords of Cinder, like, intermingle. Well, there you go. So it's like, no, this is the spot that all the games happen. There's your link.

The Nexus? Yeah, straight up. And there's even locations from DS1 that have been shown. Oh, did you not see that? No. There was a Femitsu link that said, hey, guess what your new Firelink Shrine is. Firelink Shrine. It's Firelink Shrine.

Wow, cool. Straight up. It looks completely different and the architecture is completely different, but it is a named one-to-one, like, that's the spot. Nifty. I think there's been enough Souls games probably that, like, old fans like you guys would appreciate revisiting things. Well, the idea of revisiting areas from DS1 like a million years later in the future

is the fucking shit. Like, I'm madly in love with that idea. I could see that game. Like, because, you know, there were so many areas that looked fine, like they looked immaculate at the time. I want to see that area just wrecked to shit and busted, like everything that you've seen in DS3 looks like. Like, everything in DS3 looks like a pile of shit, like, in terms of, like, being maintained.

I don't know, man, it looks really good. The backstabs look good, the new art bow and arrow stuff. God, the bows look amazing. I was hearing some weird stuff and I think, I'm probably wrong, but I hope that I read this correctly because it was, like, translated weird, is that those battle arts moves can be, like, mixed between different items. Really? Because I had heard they were just attached to the weapon and that was it.

And anyway, yeah, well, we'll see when it comes out. But, like, all of them so far seem interesting. Some of them are just pure damage buffs. Some are new moves. Some are, like, the dagger they showed off. They gave the Bloodborne Dash to the dagger as its power move. No glance at the level-up lady, I suppose. Yeah, totally.

She's in there. She's the one in the trailer. Okay. With the crown and the blonde hair. I don't know. You know the lady that's putting on a crown on her eyes in the trailer? That's your new... She's cool, anyway.

And she's a... She's no blonde firekeeper. She's a firekeeper. So, close. And certainly no cool girl from DS3. In one of the streams... They're all cool, honestly. In one of the streams of Japanese Blair.

Like, you get to see that, in fact, when you talk to her, she says her whole spiel and then lets you level up. So once again, moving backwards from that mechanic. What about her? How refreshing would the next game be if, like, it was just some girl perched up, like, what? Yeah. Here's your levels.

That's Killer 7. There it is. Here you go. Yeah. Later. And the PC release has been confirmed for same day. Which is exciting. But it's going to be locked to 720.

Is it? Oh, I doubt it. Is it? Wouldn't you rather hear that the PC release is coming a bit later and it works? No. It should come the same day and work. It should. He's right.

It should. But... No. Okay. No, Willie. There's no false choice here. Put it out on the same day and have it work. Yeah, that's what the standard should be.

Like, everyone who says, oh, it's hard though. I'm not following up the sentence. I'm just saying. Okay, no, but it is hard though. It should. Yeah. Whatever. Delay the console version by two weeks.

There's a validity to people saying it's hard and it's bullshit when people say it's hard so it's okay for it to be shitty. Yeah, no. You're totally right. You're totally right. Dude, but for the last couple weeks, at least once a week, I've been having moments where something's just not working on the computer and I'm just fiddling and I'm just like, fuck this bullshit.

Get me my console. Yeah. And I just go play a console. You're totally right. You're 100% right. It's so frustrating at times and it's not because I don't know how to troubleshoot it. It just doesn't work. Why?

It's the grand downside to playing on a PC is that sometimes it won't work and whether or not that's your fault or the poor effort. Or anyone's fault. Or middleware or anything. It doesn't matter because the end result is, ooh. Yeah. Well, you have a device hooked up to your PC in your device manager named Why Won't You Work?

That's correct. Yeah. Like, that sums it up entirely. My original thing when I first had my first built PC size, you'd finish using it, you turn it off. Power button. Yeah. Right?

And I remember going to my cousin's place and seeing that they just never turned theirs off and I was like, oh, why? What's the deal with that? And I remember him explaining to me, he's like, oh, the hard drive actually takes a hit every time you power it on and power it off. And it's like, yeah, but it takes a hit from running all the time too, doesn't it? And it's like, yeah, it's two different things, but they can keep running, right? Yeah.

Then I was like, okay, well, whatever. And after God knows how many times of like, turn the computer on and blue screen, turn it on and this device doesn't work anymore. Every time you turn it on, you just be greeted with a new surprise. I was like, fuck turning off my computer ever. If everything's working right now. Well, to be fair, you turn yours off like very infrequently. Very infrequently.

I turn mine off every night. Okay. And very, like, once every six months. The habit of leaving my computer on developed from the fear that things would stop working when I turn it off. The problem is not what you do or what I do. It's the people that do it halfway. The problem is people that turn your PC off like once every two weeks, right?

Because then that's long enough for problems to mount up, but not enough to clean them out by restarting like consistently. So like do one or the other, either be consistent with turning it on or off or leave it on forever so that nothing goes bad and only restart when you need to restart. Yeah. But I'm honestly like half a step away from deep freezing my system. No, don't do that. Because it's like, it's whenever these things happen, I'm going to put my PC in a vada oil.

That's what I'm going to do. Dude, those computers at college that were all deep frozen in the deep labs were amazing. Because they worked every time. You do anything to them and then just power it off. Yeah. Yeah. We've already done our like intro thing, so we might as well. Welcome to the podcast.

Welcome to the podcast. My name's Woolly. My name's Patrick. My name is Patrick also. That's awkward. Yeah. See, he fucked it up. Hey, Pat, what did you do this week?

Oh, you don't want to continue with the bit, Liam? You want to continue with the bit? No, I'm Patrick. Oh, okay. My friends don't call me that. Okay, fine. I'll take over. Okay, fine.

Why do you have paper? What is going on? One of our limey friends. This podcast is shit. Named Wayne. Keep listening to it. Has decided to send us a couple cool things. So fuck what's going on with our week.

Let's get them mouth noises. Yeah, because including included with this pal copy of Toshinden 4, like a champ. Man, what are we going to do with this now? He said milky bars and peanut slab. Is it called peanut slab? Peanut slab? Hokey pokey. And what's the other one there?

Almond gold. Yeah, so I'm going to go for the Hokey pokey. So you've got a choice between peanut slab and peanut slab. Give me the milky. Where was the milky bar? Oh, you want the milky bar? Yeah. Yeah, okay.

I was like, wait, where'd the last one go? What the fuck? That's a milky bar. Thank you. And Matt will get the rest. Let's see what's going on with England's finest 33% cocoa. England chocolate's good, honestly. Made by Whittakers.

Okay, Liam, how is it? Wait, hold on. How many calories does this have? It's good. You cannot fucking set up a taste test on this podcast. Get these fucking kilojoules out of here, kilojoules. You cannot do that. It's Europe.

You cannot get a fucking taste test on a podcast and go, how many calories is in this? Even this Nestle chocolate bar tastes good, because it's from England. Okay, so this almond gold thing smells really good. Let's see how it tastes. Yep. All those noises.

Liam's doing it on a vert roof. Only a little bit. This chocolate bar almost tastes like butter. It's great. Mmm, yeah. Alright, hokey pokey. It just says milk chocolate. That's a strong almond chocolate bar.

That's good. This is a default milk chocolate bar, just like a crunch. What's the high quality level? Yeah, it's nothing special. I would compare this almond gold to a thicker version of the lint almond chocolate bar with the blue label. I had fondue this week for the second time in my life.

Chocolate fondue or? Yeah. I can see what the big deal is. Where'd you go? Beer market. Okay. There's a place really, really relatively near to your place called Cocoa 66 or something.

You should check that place out. I'm in there. That place hurts. It's good though. Oh yeah, but that feels like a fucking mistake. Yeah, don't go if you can't handle sugar. Well, I'm on the hunt for a white chocolate fondue. Okay.

I've heard they exist and people have only told it to me in like a yo, dude. That place might have it because they specialize in chocolate. Okay. Pretty much all their dishes have chocolate on or in them. They're really good. They're only a few blocks down. Okay.

So, let's check it out. Something 66. Cocoa. Alright. Yeah. You want a pizza? It's a pizza made out of chocolate. We've got chocolate restaurants in Montreal though.

There's the other place. Juliette de Chocolat. This place is better. Yeah, this place is really good. Big talk. I know, I know. There are similar kinds of places though, yeah. What else did you do this week?

Thanks, Wayne. I guess I'll continue then. May as well. What did you do this week? Well, I'm sorry Matt's not here for this one, but I watched the introduction to the last year's season of Lucha Underground and holy shit, it's amazing. Lucha Underground basically runs on the L-Ray network and it's just straight up like the Mexican wrestlers that you haven't seen or heard of in a long time.

It's English I assume though? Yeah, yeah. The programming? But there's dudes that speak Spanish and they're subtitled and stuff. But the production value is fucking amazing through the roof. The cameras they use are like dramatic camera shots while wrestling. Like not the garbage. That's good, that's a plus.

Yeah, it's not like live stuff. You have shots like camera hanging directly above the ring, dead on type of stuff. It looks fantastic. And fucking dude, are you tuned in? The backstage scenes where you'd have McMahon talking to someone or whatever. Absolutely, absolutely. These are filmed and you get establishing shots. Is it like a telenovela?

It's kind of like a telenovela. You know what I mean? When someone goes in to meet the boss, it's so set up and perfect. You know I followed the storyline of Pentagon Jr. Pentagon Jr. Pentagon Jr. Pentagon Jr. Goddamn wrestling.

All the luchas were fighting for the seven pieces of the amulet. That's cool. Which can grant immortality when united. But you have to bring the pieces together to put them each on a section of a seven. Right. Section belt. It's not easy. So you have to get the belt and you have to get the seven pieces.

And so the seven champs brought the pieces out. So it's just deltora quest. And then dead warriors coming back to life. That's good. That's good writing right there. And you've got, and here's the meat. Kill someone and bring them back. You've got fucking divas and wrestlers fighting.

Together? Together. Cats and dogs or friends. No problem. Intergender battles. Let's go. Sounds good. None of that WWE 2K15 crap.

You can't, Adiva can't fight. Can't let the ladies touch. No, they're in every battle. And they're keeping up. They're doing it. Yo, lucha underground is like the truth. So where did you watch it? They had some clips up on YouTube.

And the LA Network channel on YouTube has a lot of footage. Oh, so the actual network itself. The actual network itself. Cool. That's a good intro video. That's like 37 hours of lucha underground in 37 minutes. Okay, I'll have to look at that. And it just, it walks.

That seems like a great intro video. Dude, oh my God, this is so legit. And I knew it was legit when everyone was telling us from the sidelines, like, look, all the storylines you're looking for. Are all in there. The soul transfers and so on. Oh man. Need to get on lucha underground.

Lucha underground? Okay, yeah. No, that's cool. The only difference I think in the way they handle it, and probably the reason why it looks so high production is because it seems like they come out in seasons of, like, 39, 40 minutes. So it's actually produced differently as well. So it's produced exactly.

They have all their live shows and then they put the package together, I guess. That's cool. And make a season of wrestling. And it makes me... So you're saying wrestling as a properly produced dramatic product just beats the shit out of the live stuff? I think it's the way to go. I think you're right.

I believe it. And I think everyone's always known that. But it's like, well, gotta have a show two nights a week, three nights a week every week. Yeah, yeah. You know? Yeah, because I mean, like, the idea of the live show and dark shows and stuff, like, that's so bred into the culture at this point that, you know, it's the way the business makes money.

But if someone just decided to just up the quality and then have proper seasons... You know what probably happens when you get a better result in that format? Like, mass injuries along your entire cast. Oh, there's that. Yeah. And then be able to own a DVD that just straight up says, season five of whatever. Oh, which is otherwise impossible. Season five of the Attitude Era.

This is the one with Stone Cold on the box. You know, instead of 52 shows a week, plus a year. No, 52 shows a week. Plus paper views. Yeah, plus Xavier Wood streams. Of course. Yeah. If you don't watch up, up, down, down, then you're not actually keeping up on the story

list. No, exactly. That's cool. I got to give infinite props to let you underground. That sounds dope. That sounds like I should check that out. The costumes. The fuck.

There was a giant. What? They got the giant black guy that's just like, I'm here for contrast. And, you know, I'm here to catch the cool nimble guys and show how speed can beat power sometimes. And then they gang up on him and Conan is involved in stuff and like everyone beats him down and then they fucking like, they take like a taser thing to his eye. And then he's gone.

Wow. And then he comes back episodes later with an eye patch now. That's cool. And he's out for revenge. Yeah, that's what I want. Yeah, exactly. Well, I'll be honest. You sold me when you said they have to get the amulet and the silver chain.

Yeah, the amulet was really good. And the guy, the equivalent of McMahon, he's got this really thick Mexican accent, you know, and he's just like, to fight for immortality. That sounds good. I'd like to see that. Oh, darn it. Speaking of good wrestlers, did you see Brennan's debut gifts? I saw the footage and Vines.

The match itself. The match itself is not up yet. It's coming. I saw everything but the match. Yeah, exactly. The Nico Nico knee. Dude. Into the Hadoken.

His moves are so clean. He's really impressed. That joke about how you can't like train someone to be like a six foot five black guy. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, no. He's taller than six feet five. Probably, yeah, not probably insulting. But like, dude, some of the moves he did were so clean.

On point. That powerbomb? Yeah. No, the powerbomb. Picking up the guy effortlessly and doing it so clean. And randomly I got linked to like unrelated search entirely. Just on YouTube looking up anything else. And I saw Brennan Williams impersonates Macho Man and a couple other wrestlers.

And you see him like on the field in his uniform, just with the other players around like back when he's playing football, just doing his wrestling impressions. And everyone's just like, yo. Training. He's training. Yeah. And they're just like, dude, like, do you work weekends? Do you do clubs?

Like, what are we doing here? You know? It was great. There's serious potential here. Shout out to the costume. His costume is awesome too. You always hope and you always have faith. And Brennan's a cool guy.

So you want to do well. But there's always the moment. It's like, what if he just sucks? Yeah. It's always possible for anybody. Well, based on what I saw, you fucking didn't. And then you see a single animated GIF. You're like, OK.

No. There's, yeah. OK. This is good. Right. This is good. Came out with the full Shogun costume. Yeah.

It was really cool. Yeah. And like some fans made it out there as well and had some signs. Oh, no kidding. Oh, yeah. That's awesome. It was really good. There's some pictures that people took afterwards with him.

Cool. Yeah. I saw some pictures of him. That's awesome. He's got the Akuma beads and everything. Yeah, I like that. Yeah. He's got this strong gimmick.

Good stuff. Good stuff. Marcellus. Yeah. And the other thing I did. What a feel good. Yeah. Definitely.

There's a little bit of worry there. Like, what if it doesn't go well? No. Great. So it's all smooth sailing ahead. Well, now it's just like, just grab those coattails and wait for the debut. Yeah. No.

The other thing I did was I got back into reading a bunch of Steel Ball Run. Oh, yeah. And... Man, I stalled on five. I'm so bummed out. Like, oh. Yeah. I mean, when you consume a ton of JoJo in a short period of time, you do need to take

this. Well, it's because the only ones I consumed was four and then five. Yeah. And five is not four. No, it's not. And... Yeah. But it's still very good.

So tell me, is Steel Ball Run like super long compared to the other ones? I haven't finished it yet. Yeah. But it is so far. It seems like it's moving at a slower pace, actually. Okay. But I don't... It's ironic because it's a race.

But it's because the race is like... You're watching the race and you're like, okay, how much of this is just farce for when the stand battles start happening? All of it. And it's actually like, no, dude, it's a race. Yeah. But it's a long race. It's across the entirety of the U.S., right?

Yeah. And there's going to be stand battles. But... What? But it's still a race. Yeah. Now, whatever... All I can say at this point is, it is...

The characters are fucking cool. But this is easily the fucking most bizarre that... Oh, yeah. I know enough about Six to be like... That's cool. The core concept of Six is way weirder than anything in anything else of JoJo. Like, what they're looking for and where stands come from is the weirdest. The most bizarre.

And every stand that has been introduced so far has been so non-typical. Like, nothing anyone would be like, oh, you have a cool power that can make you... Even Tusk is... Tusk is... Tusk, Johnny's stand, the primary. And it's not like... It's not a punch man. And that stuff?

Okay. And here's the thing. That was all extremely slow revealing. They take their time getting around to all that. It's so fucking weird. And like, for a weird antagonist, like, Dio's stand is fucking weird. So, you know, I mean, there's still a lot that hasn't been spoiled for me, so... Is that Dio Horstio?

Yeah. That's Horstio. Okay, yeah. And like, I know certain characters from, like, obviously playing the games and seeing... You can't avoid certain things. But there's still enough details that I don't know that I'm enjoying the process. Oh, totally. Yeah, man.

Like, the fact that the word bizarre is in the title is like... Well, technically it wasn't for this one at first. Spoiler. Because at first this was just called Steel Ball Run when it started and everyone was like, is this related or not? We don't know. Yes, it is. And then it...

Oh, that's the surprise? Cool. I mean, but this was years ago. No, I know it's years ago. But also it's like... Don't worry, I'm not calling you out on spoilers right now. Yeah, all I got to say about it right now is it's so fucking baffling. And it feels like...

It feels like Araki wanted to, like, not... He wanted to, like, not have the stand idea get so tired that anyone could just call him out on it. Yeah. So every stand he's introducing is like... What? Like, he's really stepping it up. It does what? And how can you fight with that?

Yeah. Like, every stand is like its own genre of, like, horror in some way almost. That's cool. It's fucked, man. But it's cool. It is cool. Yeah, and, you know, some other stuff, but whatever. Nothing on that.

Just yet. That sounds about right. That's me. You guys want to hear about my week? Pat, why don't you tell us what you guys... A bunch of you guys are going to get super bored by my week. It's really... Why, you're going to talk about Star Trek to yourself?

Well, I kept watching Star Trek, and I was just blown away like Deep Space Nine just from season six to season seven. It's just like, God, you should just stop watching. Just give up. It's... Is it that unwatchable that bit? So what happens is Commander Sisko slash Captain Sisko is cool black captain in space. Being Sam Jackson sometimes, but otherwise just being like kind of a cool black grandpa. And he's the best part of that show.

He's amazing. And it's a Star Trek show. So what's happening? Oh, there's aliens in the space and... Oh, the politics. And right at the end of season six, they say that, okay, you know those religious beings that the Bajorans worship in the wormhole? Okay, they're not only are they super magical, but there's an evil race of them that are going to start possessing characters and giving them red eyes and giving them like psychic powers and turning it into like magic Star Wars.

And the season finale ends with like... The lowest budget village possible. No, no, like Sisko, he's like, I need to leave and he goes back to Earth and he has a fucking vision quest and he finds out he's Jesus. And it's just, it gets super, super metaphysical and religious. And it's like, man, it's Star Trek. It's supposed to be on stupid space adventures. Right. And like fighting guys and costing rocks.

It becomes a lot. There become a lot more like sepia toned weird magic flashbacks, which is like, oh man, I don't want this. Now, when that was airing, I remember like it would, you know, pop on my TV every once in a while. And it seemed to just still be more or less the same thematically, but with less of the characters that I recognized. Yeah, no, Pete. They actually cycle out some dead people. More quark. Quark is quark goes from like a side character to a main character by the end of the series.

Half the shots are in his bar. So when you're skipping through episodes and you're not watching them because you're like, oh, I know this one. Oh, I know this one. Oh, I know this one. You will be blown away at how many of those episodes start in that bar. It's like every shot of the line that I can recall is like 70% of all episodes start with them hanging out in the bar. And quark is either talking or in the background of the shot. Also, wharf sucks.

Wharf sucks. I thought you liked that. No, I never liked work. Oh, well, never mind then like this. This this this blank has no honor hits like the ultimate fever pitch in that series. You don't like space to got. He is not space to got. He is not.

No, the rest of the Klingons would be like, no, the part the part is like, you know, wharf's all on or all that. It's like, oh, because I'm a Klingon and deep space nine actually shows off how weird he is because Klingons are like Vikings. They're like, oh, yeah, we're drinking and singing songs. And wharf is just this humorless fuck. Yeah. That doesn't like anything. Yeah. And no one likes him.

And he's it's like, oh, Michael Doran's great. But like wharf sucks. I don't like him. I'd love for there to be like a representative character of a race that's a part of the cast and then you meet the rest of the race and they're all like super not like that representative wharf is the wrong idea. Yeah, totally wharf is like that and it's super, super weird. Even in TNG, he's like that and they meet other Klingons and they're all laughing and singing songs and shit. It's like, why don't you why don't you join in wharf? No, this song is a fuck you wharf.

Like every yeah, it doesn't have imagine if Spock's flashbacks were like you're just surrounded by frat boys on a frat boy planet. They're doing keg stands. Spock's just a big weirdo. Yeah. You just make assumptions. And the worst the worst part is that it's a character that's like he's supposed to be a pair. The actual thing is Spock is not representative of the Vulcans. Yeah.

When you really get down to it, you kind of nailed it because he is actually totally different. Like this is a character that's supposed to be like ethics and morals and overall else. And it's like you watch DS9 and wharf fucks up all over the place. He blows up a civilian transport. But he fucks up honorably, right? No, he just like they're in a battle and a civilian transport decloaks and you go shoot it and they go, whoops, that was civilians. Uh-oh. I don't know, are mistakes dishonorable?

Yeah, they are when you're not supposed to do that. He attacks his lawyer. Sorry, he attacks the other guy's lawyer in that like courtroom follow up. Well, space lawyers. I mean, come on. And like he objectively just fails a mission to save his wife. Like an important one. And they're like, you're an idiot.

You're bad at your job. Yeah. No, fuck that guy. Uh, what else did I do? Uh, I watched some Star Trek. I'm way back in a 14. I'm way back in there like it's bad. Like.

When's the next expansion anyway? Not for a while. The next expansion? Yeah. That'll be like in a year and a half. Yeah. I take it that you got your space fix that way and did continue the adventures of Amarore. Uh, no, I haven't seen the friend in a week.

So I haven't been continuing that. But, uh, so the next expansion is a long way. The next patch that will have lots of stuff in it is like in two weeks. Okay. Uh, and they announced for that patch that they were going to be re rejiggering some of the stat stuff, which may be very happy. But then they also said, Hey, here's the new dungeons that you wanted. And turns out that the reason I quit at 3.1 was not due to any fault of anything.

It's just that all there's, there's the progression patch and there's the catch-up patch. So there's the progression one, which you can try really hard to gear up your character. There's a catch up. And all the super hardest stuff is there. And then there's the patch after that, that it gives you a bunch of ways to like, more easily gear up like your alts and turns out that when there's a new thing on the horizon that I can actually do, I'm right back in there. So like I went and ran like the super boss, the, for a fancy weapon and Chocobo thing,

15 times in a row. Did you get it? Yeah. Good job. Beat it. Like you got to do it 15 times. I did it 15 times in a row. Good job.

Took eight hours or whatever. I did it. I have, my Chocobo looks so pretty now. He's got a fancy hat. Did you write it? Yeah. I wrote it. Made the Chocobo.

Shut up. Oh, it looks so pretty. Aside from new stuff, I played XCOM, XCOM 2 came out. XCOM 2, yeah. And XCOM 2 is the absolute fucking shit. And Willie, right before this, we were, I was trying to talk to you about it and you're like, I don't know what XCOM is. I mean, you know, I know what it is, but I never touched it.

The specific phrasing was like, you had never touched it. I never touched it. But you are aware of it's like general structure. Yeah. It is a top-down isometric, squad-based, like move the little people around it. Shit things. And then there's a strategy layer on top of that, like make gear, research things, shoot down UFOs.

I mean, I used to play Commandos back in the day. Kind of. It's not the same thing. Yeah. XCOM is a series that's built on your failure in that it's impossible to always do the right thing all the time. And every mistake that you make will come back on you really, really bad. So for an example, and they tuned some of these up to be meaner in the sequel.

So say your guy has six health and he takes a couple of bullets and he's, he wins the mission with one health. He does not die. You go, yeah, that's great. My, my sergeant that I've leveled up, he's not going to be, he's not dead. He's not dead. I get to keep that character. But that character is out injured for 29 days.

But you give him robot parts. And if, if then they have a chance of coming back shaken, which is like war fatigued, which means they will occasionally panic more often in a fight. And the level of meanness that is present here in terms of mistakes being made, the, the first time I loaded it up, there's a second mission where you have to get to a bomb and disable it within eight turns. And that's the big thing is that almost everything you only have eight terms before you automatically fail.

Cause they were tired of people in the original game, just walking forward and doing overwatch and then walking super slow. Yeah. So do it in eight turns. So all four team members miss their shots. Great. Get ready for just getting shot next turn. I have a fucking, I have a sectoid, which is an alien looking guy.

Shoot one of my guys. They panic, run into some fire and die. I was about to ask how easy is it to die at XCOM? Very easy. Very easy. Okay. I mean, if they flank, you can kill you in a single attack. Okay.

Uh, okay. That causes team member number two to also panic, panic, then run somewhere bad and shoot some stuff and miss that team member then gets mind controlled and the, the dead person gets reanimated by the sectoid. This causes the third team member to panic and shoot an explosive barrel killing themselves, leaving only one guy on the field against four enemies and one mind, one mind controlled squadmate that can shoot and one reanimated zombie. Hold fast.

We will escape this. And that's when I restarted my campaign and did it again because holy, holy fucking shit. The only thing I would say that's bad about that game is there's some bugs that can fuck you. The really weirdly, I've had characters get pulled through solid objects and then like there's a, there's a snake guy who uses the tongue to latch on your guy and pulled them over to where they are and then bind them so they can't move and they take damage return. But if he does that through solid walls, you know, you don't have the ability to shoot

them free anymore. Whoops. Oops. Like functional bugs in games that are like extremely strict like that is horrible. There's weird stuff where you'll, you'll go up against the table and suddenly the enemy will have line of sight on you through a solid wall because the table has some kind of line of sight tag attached to it. It's like, no, no, no, no, no, no.

And the other thing is that man, they explain a lot of mechanics really poorly. There's an Intel mechanic on the world map where you have to spend Intel for certain things. They never explain it. There's a, there's a ticker at the top of the screen that counts down the avatar project, which is your game over state. I don't know how it works. Like I played that game like you still just don't know like what, what makes it tick down

this. Okay. But it's still going up. It's like, okay. And like, okay. There's black sites. Sorry. There's not black sites.

There's dark events. I can stop them. Right. No, you can only stop one, but I can see more than one on my map. Oh, yeah. Well, but other than that, like absolutely fantastic game. It's a complete blast. Yeah.

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Oh, yeah. Okay. That's the Mecca Kickstarter. Mecca IndieGoGo project that we talked about last week. And did you get any guys? No, no, I did not. All right. So yeah.

I forgot about that thing as soon as we finished the podcast. Yeah. It's gorgeous and it's an amazing look at like some really pretty robot fights, but mechanically, it is not front mission. It's very simple. It is. The barest of bones. I'm not surprised.

Yeah. And there's the groundwork for more interesting things. Like you do a little tutorial mission and you get to try out like a mech that has like a punch and a pile bunker, a mech that has a sword, a mech that has missiles, guns, whatever. You get to try out different types of weapons and loadouts. But pacing is still, it feels slow even though you expect it to be for a tactical game, a tactical game. It's still slower than you'd think.

Really? Because tactics games are built on slow movement and picking your turns. Yeah. I don't know. It's just something about it was a little bit glacial, unfortunately, and this is really early playable demo. Yeah. I don't want to, you know.

No. I mean, you know, like I said, they don't actually have the best track records, so I'm not too surprised. So, you know, there's that, there's the, the cool part is like when it comes to like, you know, moving on the grid as it were, it's not a grid, it's just free 3D movement. And. I like the grid, man. I like the grid too.

I like the grid too. But no. Nothing wrong with either one. XCOM has a grid and it's very good. This is like you get, you get a couple seconds of armored coring and then like you pick your shots. You know, it's fine. It's fine.

I just think that like it needs a lot more right now. Well, that's what the Kickstarter's for. That's what it's for. And yeah, I still, I still, I give it more money, you know, I think the first. You in there? I'm in there and with the hopes that the final product will deliver upon this base package. And I just want to, you know, remind if you guys think it's interesting to take a look, try it out, see what's up.

I was wondering, I'm like, can we maybe take a quick look at this? And I was like, ah, maybe not. It might be a little bit too slow paced for a quick look video. Well, if there's not enough content in the demo anyway, there's not enough content. Yeah. It's a tutorial and a mission and they're both, again, they're both probably a little bit too slow paced for a video. So I don't think we'll be doing that.

But if this does make it, then I feel like we can get some stuff going. Yeah. That's good. Right. For the two person team that we've seen, or it was more like four or five, actually. More like 20 or 25 or 30. Anyway, what we, the small team that we saw on that Indiegogo page, like they're putting in a lot of work visually.

Like those designs are, yeah, no, definitely. And they're like doing cutscenes and little, at the very worst, it'll be a new set of models for Gary's mod. Yeah. And one, and there's a cool level in that campaign where it's like, you'll get, you can get a replica model of one of the mecha designs if you come in it. Like, I think it's like four or five. You should go check out the upcoming fan made MuvLove games, because like that's some high

speed mecha action. Oh. MuvLove? MuvLove. MuvLove. No, no, no. Do you remember the Kickstarter for that? No.

A while ago? Yeah. I remember. I remember. I've never, I never went through MuvLove, but I do know of it peripherally through thanks to M. So. Yeah. Super good.

My mecha friend. It's really cool stuff looking. So it reminded me of that. And how? No, I'm good. Okay. The XCOM 2 is really good, but those turn limits seem poorly, like it's eight turns, like get to the, get to the thing and then get to the extraction or just break up the

thing and kill all the enemies with eight turns. Eight turns seems unnecessarily strict. Well, like really. Does it ever vary from eight or? Some have 12. Okay. And some have, some have a, like if you start in concealment, it's eight. If you're, if there's a turn limit and you don't start in concealment is 12.

And then there are missions in which they don't have a turn limit, but you have to save a certain amount of like NPCs or whatever, and they're being killed every turn. So there is a functional term limit. Like, you know, I haven't played the game obviously, but the notion that every match is like a fairly strictly timed affair doesn't sound fun. It is. I'm sure the game is fantastic, but that specific thing doesn't sound too like, it is very divisive. Okay.

So about half of the people that you can see on the steam forums are like, yeah, they're great. They're fine. Or I don't mind. And the other half are just downloading the mod that turns it off. Okay. Because when I think of other tactical RPGs, there's not many that have like a strict rigid turn limit on every thing that saves the term limit and time limit and makes it like usable

and possibly fun if you like it. Instead of worthless is that the vast majority of missions, you start the map concealed in which the enemy does not know you're there. And you can, as long as you don't enter their vision cones, you don't have to fight them. Oh, okay. So you can take up your entire double movement space to get wherever you need to do. You can set up ambushes so that the first patrol that you run into has no fucking chance on earth of stopping you.

So you try and get as far as you possibly can without going loud because you have strict time limits. But it really, really, really hurts you because occasionally you will have to extract every single person. And I have had situations where I've misread the turn timer and thought that you could extract on turn zero. You cannot and the VIP got to the extraction point and no one else did and all those soldiers are dead.

Great. That stuff. And like, again, I talked about Darkest Dungeon before, then this still here from, I should like, with a lot of these tactical RPGs, like I feel like the corest core thing that you can do, you can like make a judgment call on is like, when it's your turn, what can you do? And when it's the enemy's turn, what can happen to you? And like, if the answer is spend AP and watch myself take damage, that's probably not going

to be much. It's not probably not going to be exciting enough for me to really want to stay engaged in it. But you're describing the fact that like panic states can happen, the things like the kind of things that happen in England, the fact that in front mission, like you can target certain parts and it makes a difference like that engagement is something that I don't get why like everyone is not operating on that level. So in XCOM, the states that can occur is you can destroy cover with explosives or whatnot.

You can flank people. You can set up overwatch or reaction shots. You can ambush people if you get them out of concealment. You have melee characters. You have psionic characters that can do various states. There's the panic disorient panic disorient and there's one more like bad state that can happen to you and in panic states, you lose complete control of your character and they can do anything.

They can they can actually do the right thing and run to a good place and cover and take a shot and and get that shot and that will be at a lower they'll have an impound penalty because they're freaking out and they can do anything from that to shooting their own guys to running to the farthest corner of a map and hiding or like throwing grenades in bad places. I had a mission go bad because I was like, there are three enemies there. They each have three health. I can kill them all with one grenade.

I'm going to do it. Blow them all up. Amazing. I hope the extraction point that was on the roof of a building now the extraction point moved like all the way across the map. I don't know if I can get there in time. Like all sorts of different things can happen. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I totally agree with you. Like if if your options are super, super limited, I don't attack the thing and then go there. Like honestly, the most limited like tactical RPG that that's I guess big in a way is fire emblem easily fire emblems like the simplest one by far. Yeah. You know, they accommodate for that by making it really difficult, making it stressful in other ways. But there aren't really many like, there aren't really any good tactical RPG series that have

that those problems. Fire emblem is you bring it's interesting you bring that up because I think I've like come to to peace with myself because I've tried to start it like five times now. Yeah. Which one? Awaken it. Awaken it. Awaken it.

I've tried to start awakening like five or six times. Yeah. And then I'm going to wipe the safe start over start over. Okay. Let's do it. Let's do it for real this time. And it just nothing grabs me and holds on. I don't know.

I couldn't figure out. Was it too easy? No, it's just kind of boring. Yeah. The fighting is just not exciting to me and I'm moving around and I'm doing the stuff and then you get the cutscene and the characters talk and it's like it has the harshness. It's just not pulling me. And all I think I could say is try a different one.

Try seven or something. It's available on the virtual console. It has the. That one's really good. I put my guy in the wrong spot and they're dead and that's fine. But I feel like there's very little your character can do outside of that. Like the one thing I forgot about XCOM is that every rank up your soldier gets they get a new ability and that can be anything from shredding armor to suppression fire to

going invisible to firing twice. Ever since Path of Radiance there are character skills that you equip to them and in Awakening that early in the game you would have had very few if any. But basically you get to equip I believe up to five and like mash them all together and you can make some like really crazy. My other my other problem with the make and this is really stupid because the core mechanics like I don't like the team mechanic. It's busted in Awakening.

I don't know but I just don't like it. I want to have all my units out there. But then I'm like oh there was so much weaker by not doing this is like. I also I'm remembering I did go back and try one of the earlier ones back when like melee first came out and I was like Roy, Marth who? When melee came out so that would have been the one with Ellie, Wood and Hector and Lynn. Exactly. Yeah exactly.

And I remember trying that and like I gave that an old college try as well. That one has amazing sprite work. It does. I love the battle animations. And I love that yeah I still know I know the distinct sprite style but I still it didn't grab me. Oh no? Well.

So I'm like maybe I just can't. No that might just be it. Because that was the one I recommended just there. Yeah I did try that one and I think like so that you we've got the new ones coming and then you've got we've got cross SMT as well. If you if well well that's the sharp FV is its own thing okay it's a it is a JRPG not a tactical RPG it is its own thing. It's closer to persona than I say.

But like yeah if you didn't dig awakening I and you didn't dig seven there's a strong chance you won't. I played some of the other ones I can't remember but very briefly like one or two missions I didn't like and it's weird because like in XCOM if a soldier dies they're fucking dead and they can be a customized person that you've like leveled up all the way and it doesn't bother me nearly as much as it did in Fire Emblem when a single character died and I think that's because they're named and it personalized and it feels like they have to live every battle.

I mean I wish I could put my finger on what it was precisely because I mean I played a lot of tactics advance and enjoyed that I didn't beat it. It's very mechanically different from tactics well Final Fantasy tactics in general. I mean maybe what you want then is Tactics Ogre let us cling together the the PSP one because that game is really good. That's an even simpler gameplay system in battles though. But still if you liked FFT then FFT is just based on Tactics Ogre so yeah and the when you look at the story it's like very clear.

It's very much like take it back to Ogre battle. Or you can go crazy and download like the Sting the ones made by Sting like Hex's Force and Riviera. They're the guys who did Knights in the Nightmare you know they have all those like a little bit off like RPGs. Getting super like deep into at that point. Their games are kind of weird. I don't know I would honestly recommend like one of the one of the newer XCOM games.

They're fantastic and the setting is well not for itself because the old XCOM games are old but like you know almost all strategy RPGs are some form of fantasy. It's nice to see one that's like you're shooting guns. I was going to say Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Shadow Wars is fantastic. It's by Julian Gallup who made the original XCOM series. It's excellent. It's really good. I mean at this point I'm still most inclined to one like Finish Front Mission 3 to play

more Front Mission. Yeah that's kind of where I'm at mentally but like yeah I just just going over this in my head I'm like yeah you know it's just it's a very particular thing and Fire Emblem I've never I think my biggest problem is that when I play Fire Emblem I'm like it's not FFT. I just want FFT again just I hear a lot of people saying that can someone anyone make an FFT game again that that works and is as good as FFT because nothing has that nothing even tries to be that type.

Did you play Tactics Advance no it's better fuck you that's that's a lie. The DS one sucks the DS but Advance 2 Advance but that judge shit like I got the very first judge things like no physical attacks and I turned it off. There's also something really satisfying about the Super Robot Wars games too like how boring they are before you like they overstay their welcome going through like all the franchises like there there is cross boring the base of Granddaddy but the basic like combat system totally you're 100 it's functional functional and fun I bet those games turn into a totally different series when you turn the animations off well they turn into the like yeah they

kind of do but for a lot of people they they do anyway like the older games didn't really have fancy animations or you can go play like Namco X Capcom where the juggle systems in place and then you get the cross boring situation which we all agreed we all agreed the system itself is fine it just overstayed its welcome if it had been 15 to 20 missions long yes but the but the juggle combo system is fun I enjoyed that tried so hard yeah the the juggle system I mean I I know it never changes once I know it's a bit of a faux pas and I shouldn't say it but cross zone 2 completely fixes that that issue the juggle system restricts the amount you can do and it makes them do different things okay so some you don't always

want to do the full everything combo because you can't a but b because the moves then have different properties yeah Namco X Capcom like oh shit no don't play it you don't want to play it stop it stop it stop it but slap your hand but look the but Namco X Capcom you had something here where I like you have all four that's fucking buying it on Amazon you have all four directions and then when you're certain level some of those actions and animations get replaced with new ones mm-hmm you know and that's cool Charlie's a box change up and become this or that or whatever so like it's just you know is your basic turn-to-turn combat fun I guess is what I'm getting at yeah for sure yeah for people like me and Willie it all comes down to how many

actions can my kept can my unit perform in this turn and it has to be somewhere between Deskaya and an ogre battle god I can't play this guy I can't play this guy I can't play this I just got a five it's good Pat did you ever play it yeah I played it for like one mission okay yeah it was like oh right not even surprise games are great and I hate them I can't play them anyway I at all I love those games yeah I tried so hard for Deskaya one and two because like man strategy RPG I love strategy RPGs like nope turns out I like shining force and fun fancy tactics and X com yeah that's what I actually meant your mental fortitude stat wasn't high enough I don't actually like this genre I like this sub sub genre I mean I like the genre a lot just something

about this guy I don't the item I don't I don't I don't see the appeal of the stats going to a bazillion yeah I don't I don't see the appeal of the not actually that funny humor yeah like I just doesn't click with me at all for someone and by someone I mean a lot of people out there yeah it does but no exactly yeah that's the part that's I can understand the appeal of man the number goes bigger number gets higher because like I play goddamn MMO which is like that's really all I'm actually doing in MMO right as I just want to make that item level go higher but like to the absurd extent like I'm gonna level up this mint gum mm-hmm like no Marvel vs. Capcom isn't for everybody no yeah that's you know what yeah that's that's pretty solid this guy is the Marvel

vs. Capcom of strategy RPGs you know and yes it isn't it isn't that funny at all it's not that funny and it thinks it's really funny which makes it like kind of off-putting whenever I hear people saying how funny it is whenever we review about how it's so funny I just can't like I played one through four I've never finished any of them oh no and I did I played every single one of them yeah and like that pretty sure it's not funny pretty why still I think I think I don't have it anymore I used to have a pretty shirt I like the pretty shirt a lot when he's I finished I finished both of the pretty games on PSP those games are great yeah those are like on a bash of these are the on unlike they're the total standout from that that idea but everything else yeah it's your

mascot character that's that that's you know mm-hmm rises from it just feels like Saturday morning anime to the like have you watched the Disgaea anime don't yeah don't fucking do it we can get into wait what's wait what happened in my week I get into Liam's week yeah good save ass finish yeah that's what he was gonna say the whole time I'm sure I'm not gonna talk about too much just I played a lot of play about 12 hours of Digimon story cyber sleuth yeah which is a fucking good ass JRPG cool game with a title that like is bordering on lies like I like I mean it is the Digimon story series and you are a cyber sleuth so that title is terrible man why is that because it paints this image there's totally inaccurate it paints an image of something like one step removed from

Monster Rancher but it's actually a really cool game Monster Ranchers awesome okay well now but now we're at an impasse not Monster Rancher so you didn't like putting the CDs in no you don't like going through your parents CD collection you didn't like being transported and being like oh this far away land to a world where monsters rule Monster Rancher played the game like an ace now you're in this place to save the monsters from the evil who monsters rule Monster Rancher Monster Rancher monsters rule monsters rule you didn't like that you didn't like that game no oh good shit no I didn't care that's that's your that's your business yeah poor guy anyway the game is really really good it's like a super real RPG aimed at young adults

I think what Pat's saying is like it gives you the image of like an RPG aimed at kids something like Yolkai Watch or something is that it or yeah kind of okay yeah like a baby RPG because Cyber Sleuth also is like just the whole title sounds like a like I don't know like a like a a Pokemon like a like Pokemon Mystery Dungeon sure like like level spin-off blues clues Cyber Sleuth yeah um when it's like and I because I you you talked about it and I totally discounted it entirely yeah and then I saw a single screenshot I was like oh whoa whoa hey whoa that's a real video game that's a real video game it's by media vision who I believe made the old Wild Arms games so like to give you to give you an idea well that explains yeah

but yeah it's it's aimed at people who liked Digimon when they were younger and it's an RPG not made for kids and it's it's good I mean it's just good not much to say about it it's just very good you go around collecting monsters and you go through this cool Cyber Sleuth story where you detect cyber crimes and shit is it it's pretty neat I saw the the original trailer and I don't remember too much of what I saw but I remember seeing it thinking it looked pretty good is it also um part of the stuff that's coming out like that um that series where it's like if you grew up with Digimon in the first season stuff oh did you want to venture try yeah uh I now I don't follow Digimon like too too closely so I don't know if it was ever like announced as something

but my impression is they're just relaunching Digimon for young adults well rather than what I'm getting at is that was they're not linked though there's Angemon in it or Angemon's in it and Wargrain one's in it okay all the warriors all the warriors um but you don't get to start with them that's fine Agumon and Gabumon or whatever of course yeah in there oh I forgot about the baby forms I actually did yeah no they exist now yeah but it's really really good it's out uh for well one of my favorite things about it actually the last video they put out before it came out was of the producer uh thanking all the fans in the west for like signing that petition and pushing that petition because like that was the reason it happened and I think that's really

cool that they like really came out and acknowledged it and not just like a little tweet where it was like yeah I might have done something but like really nice to to put that out there uh it's out for PS4 and Vita and if it sells we'll get the next one is what they said so is it true I saw some people talking about how there's some like minor translation errors yeah the the translation okay so uh so Sword Art the first Sword Art Vita game what has a terrible translation is that because it's the Hong Kong translation it's based it's actually a little different I think but it's basically that version yeah okay uh it's abysmal it's kind of hilarious how bad it is um they fixed it up for the ps4 version cyber sleuths is is it's good but it's got a few little quirks here

in there it feels like it was missing a last pass or something so what you're saying is that they were really dedicated to that ps2 game aesthetic yeah exactly uh no the the localization is good it's not game breaking at all but there are some bits where you'll get to it and you'll be like that's a mistake like you'll get to a bit where you have a choice and it lets you scroll up and down between two things and like the first choice will continue into the second line and then when that sentence ends the second choice will be there and you just have to be able to parse that oh that's the first choice should end there uh lots of little busted things like that but it's not a major nothing game breaking at all this is no tales of symphonia no it's not so oh my god uh

is that on the things oh man um actually it's funny that we talk about strategy rpgs and um pokemon mystery dungeon so specifically uh because boy pokemon super mystery dungeon uh wow holy shit the story in that game so i i kind of i kind of i dragged my way through it uh i i don't always a good verb to use with a video game it's the the i didn't i didn't like the gameplay as much as i like the original ds one um holy shit that story what is it about betrayal okay a lack of trust okay with your fellow pokemon that miss that mystery dungeon sure is untrustworthy pokemon super mystery dungeon has a super legit story of like well amnesia betrayal trickery the people who are all between pokemons it's all between pokemons the people who knew

you were gonna be an amnesiac and are manipulating you like the story totally goes places by the end and i was really surprised and so it's like okay next mainline pokemon game come on no excuses anymore no excuses i know it's not the same team but like tons of excuses you know no good ones babies don't understand story they just want to catch their pigeons pokemon x and y had such a fucking abysmal story after like black and white had a like a messy but like good one black and whites uh story was about like pokemon slavery right yeah more or less that's an interesting topic it was a little messy but it was a it was good it was better than a lot of them and and x and y story was fucking shite hey they got my god mobile games to sell well yeah i'm excited

but anyway watch it watch devices pokemon super mystery dungeon i don't know if i can recommend the game itself but the story go read a synopsis go read a synopsis yeah exactly have somebody who played it tell you what happened yeah fuck nuzleaf nuzleaf fuck that fucker he was the one it was him it's him all along was it wasn't the last week we were just talking about like the revelation of a talking peak yeah totally it was last week fucks up the entire yeah that was me that was me i can't handle that no yeah the mystery dungeon series they've always ignored me out but now that there's two it makes it too real well in mystery dungeon they've always been talking but i assume you never touched those willingly no i never touched them and also but in speaking english they're

speaking to each other you're right they're speaking to each other so you can you can easily they're speaking in pokemon yeah yeah no no i'm in english but poconese that's true that's true they are speaking to each other um and a whole other level of fuck yeah just like wait all of you are sapient enough to learn like like perfect languages yeah punk whoa i did it yeah squirrel squad is a new level threat yet we still make you fight in battle for because they love it it's because it's cool don't think about it don't think about it it's their nature to love fighting for our amusement that arbok died man that that fucking onyx died got electrocuted into dirt yeah for fun yeah see in cybersleuth from the beginning they're like yeah this is what's up

so no pretense this image is so weird because it's such a hip looking cool anime game and then gabumon is there or whatever is now gumon and like it like you know what it looks like but it blends really well no yeah it does you know what you know what it looks like to me it really looks like an awesome deviant art thing that somebody threw a gumon into like as a stolen like the digimon they blend in it super well i totally disagree so hard the digimon in that game looks stolen from up like like it's a knockoff game and they look like they were stolen did you ever did you ever see um uh the digimon movie i feel what it's called something no the one that he never did the answer is no digimon the movie 2000 yeah exactly i saw the first season did you see

summer wars i don't know like no because like those movies are a lot closer to the aesthetic of this game and the digimon blend right in like yeah but if but let let me put it this way had i seen nothing i would still look at it be like did they steal those characters or something did they steal agumon from tecum wait wasn't it pokemon the movie 2000 yeah pokemon was the movie 2000 the digimon one came out at the same time i think it was just called digimon mode i think it was just digimon the movie as well in japan it had a like a title something war game or something like that okay wait till we get to the super best friend cast the podcast 2000 yeah i remember when um shit that's a long the trailer for that came out and i was like yo the

animation the digimon movie yeah the animation is um the same guy that did like the high budget stuff in neruto uh wasn't it or the same studio maybe it's the same studio i know the director memuro osada okay an extremely prolific and famous director okay yeah we have to do the podcast for 38 more years to get done if you haven't seen it it's a really good anime movie oh yeah no i've i've heard okay i watched um i don't watch Naruto i watched the one with uh idrassil when the tree of life whichever movie that was is it a digimon movie yes digimon yeah i didn't see that one i had like lots of cg in it yeah i didn't see that one okay that's a lot more recent than i guess uh all right well go play digiman yeah it's a good game digiman digiman

can we roll into the news yeah go ahead no but without mat here our sense of pacing is not until you tell us how much Naruto you watched zero that's a good number that's a good one i can give you an update lies are free single week yeah that's also a good one i can also i can also tell you like how many like like youtube videos of like uh ultimate ninja storm four okay so that's the question did you play the demo for ninja storm four since it's up apparently it's really impressive let me answer let me answer this zero well we're gonna have to change that you should put a sign up in your room it's like days since Naruto media was consumed willingly are there enough digits on that clock we're playing the Naruto LP in this spot like that yeah yeah that's automatic dq that's

what's happening but i mean i'm just saying the the the the claim that um some of us are back in has been greatly exaggerated i'm more back in than you and i'm not back in i'm just looking at things people send me on twitter and wow that's dumb matt wants us to be back in more than anything so bad if he writes it in hard enough people believe it'll eventually happen no it won't yeah all right so what what happened this week in the world of video games here's what did happen okay here's what actually happened yeah instead of things did not happen like we got updates about the existence of titanfall 2 yeah yeah cool uh story hook on that we got the information uh and detailing that it will have a story campaign i'm very happy to hear your story campaigns i think every one is man

will be they give them they give way more information than i expected yes about like game has barely been locked themes and such this is still leak but this is like yeah it's all leak but but like right now they're saying that this is going to be talking about um how the the civil war being fought in space would look yeah where um machines and devices that originally weren't meant for war are being retooled for that purpose i like it and it's going to be uh pushing things to the point where science meets magic i like it science versus magic's a great thing not bad shoot a wizard with a machine gun no i'm really keen to see what it looks like and before anyone says lightning bolts on my tank and before anyone says there was no magic or

craziness like that uh you didn't pay attention to those backgrounds in titanfall one yeah because there was shit going on back there there was dinosaurs and dragons man um so that is really exciting uh and then that came hand in hand with the rumors that there might be a tv show which is not exciting at all nope two two tv shows wasn't it uh i uh is that what it said an animated series and a live action one or am i or am i crazy i think it was just live action okay they just said tv show but the uh to me that's like you went from having no story to a story to now too much way too much story we do not need that much titanfall no please reconsider well that's always the kind of thing you say but once when i when a company manages to deliver

and all of the media is good you're like yeah this is great so has that ever happened mcu not the games those were all trash well they weren't mcu games they were they totally were the uh but they weren't the iron man games made by sega were totally oh no sorry well i'm not counting the ones that were before they pulled back all the rights and stuff talking about all the stuff that was like after that and there's no games yet except for the mobile shit well that's not fair is it those those counted the movies and shows are all really good you just took a you just took a line i'm talking i'm talking cross media everything like dead space those comics were all right but the the movie new star new star wars of western origin things that start as games get

adapted elsewhere that i feel the world is better off for mortal combat and that's it new star wars does that have any games on it technically uh disney infinity three does that count like like when i say that works it's like because it has to have the two components it's got the show and whatever whatever the tv show i don't know that show doesn't seem very good whatever the tv shows rebels it's rebels is good whatever the tv show seems like it's for maybe offer that's super i say just put that content in the game yeah you know like i'm maybe maybe so maybe so because how often like are we gonna see the moments you want which is ejecting the nuke uh and ejecting out of the nuke titan and then like landing on the other ship and then shooting the thing and blowing

it up in the show not much it's gonna happen once it'll be really cool that one time yeah because they'll know they have to do it once that dead space motion comic series was really good and then they came out with that dead space animated movie which is oh yeah then the book was good too so extraction was good too the book was still like it's like they were so close to doing it did you watch the second movie it's a bit better no i don't know i'll lend it to you i was dead space 50 50 on it's like quality to not quality uh yes more i'd say it's more than 50 50 in the favor of quality but the not quality is pretty good here's what happens if you do if you do dead space and every every single item counts as one point then it's 50 50 but if you weigh the

games more heavily which you should because there that's the real deal then it is more than because dead space one and two are really good dead space three is not well then more of the outside stuff is not good well one into one's good two's amazing extractions i'd say both are amazing and sure and extractions pretty good extractions good uh the motion comic thing is fine i guess uh the first one's really good the second one's really bad yeah uh and dead space three is like it's it's like like super it's not like terrible it's fun to play but like it's kind of offensive but only in in comparison to the game yeah like only with that context it's like you ruined it you had it you had it so i think i think dead space is is more or less in in the positive yeah just like mass effect

black just yeah mass effect in fact like exactly like mass effect too yeah in that it went really good they both got a bad mobile amazing not good and the third one and then like sprinkle some comics and books some some of the comics and books were good some of the comics and books were fucking awful and yeah they both did get bad mobile games that's weird that's weird by the same and they're both ea yeah it like i was just thinking about dragon age in the same context dragon age is the is not the same thing dragon started earlier yeah with the the trend towards shit uh man like ea again mirror's edge has a good record so far yeah yeah two two games both of which are one of which is all right one of which is good and then the upcoming one and then the

comics were fine the comics were fine i thought rat approach it did a decent man when you look at it that way doesn't it just really look like ea fucked up those series it looks like it but then when you actually get that you know why buy it like why me three was fucked it looked you know why dead space was fucked that was all and a lot of them are for like similar reasons even if ea is not responsible yeah it's the mindset yeah exactly it trickles down yeah sorry willy no i thought you talked about beer's edge and i was just gonna say it looks like dice we're making it oh i don't think looking at other things uh making a trilogy oh our lead writer left whoops speaking of fuck speaking of trilogies and um resurrections uh there are high level talks happening at the highest

levels the highest levels about ony musha in capcom well was there a trilogy in ony musha's not trilogy no there's one two it's a trilogy donna dreams and then one two three donna dreams yeah but there's only three aren't there like six games yeah but only three have samanosuke uh samanosuke and the gba one hold on hold on there is a g is there a gba yeah there's also the fighting game there's also only we should blade warriors yeah which is terrible it's terrible there's three mainline games there's donna dreams then there's the gba game and then there's the fighting game and there's the ony musha's souls or whatever that's the one with sexy sylvia it's a mobile game no it's a browser browser that doesn't count

you don't have to you don't have to cap it i'm like there's also that card in dogeo pocket fighters class like and and the card in marvel vs capcom 3 yeah you know is is samanosuke in the gba game i think he appears as a guest character no because samanosuke is not the main character in three of those games it goes samanosuke jubey egg you then samanosuke and jon reno and jon reno let's go i love i love how jon reno has that spot in it dude it's so awesome it's great so fucking great uh yeah but um proper ony musha titles for reals yes there's one two three they're being this and they're being discussed at the highest levels cring tone and uh also like to head us off at the pass in terms of our we excited is like it's only at the discussion

they are right now literally words we're just talking about it yeah we're talking to people and be like hey is anybody like ony musha how cool was that intro to part three yeah it was fucking it's the best ever we should do that again you guys nothing will ever top that shit i really feel like to an extent like the ony musha series was just like i bet we can win sygraph again this year what are you gonna do we're gonna mo cap a fucking horse i'll tell you what like like jon reno turned my head but like that that's still the thing that i first the first thought that comes to my brain every time i think of the word ony musha yeah so uh i wonder if they did it if they'd like retire single kubisara or something i would be very excited to see them do

another ony musha that being said they kind of don't need to now if neo is good i was about to say neo like if that's good that just takes that it's the same thing yep it's crazy how much it's the same thing the only difference is not same company so yeah and it's not pre-rendered if they want that even three wasn't pre-rendered yeah i think if neo does it and does it well it'll increase the likelihood have you ever ever played possibly the ony musha series uh i played uh about an hour of ony musha one are you familiar with like the what's it called the ishin system um is the is that the the second attack no no it's it's the perfect kill uh system that's in all those games that if you attack or block and then you tap the button on like frame one yeah that

yeah sorry that's not second attack but yes that yeah like because that's the exact kind of defensive oh yeah no it's shit it's the shit it's amazing and in three they made it so that if you do it after you charged up your sword you can do it once and then do it to every enemy in the stage and and when you do it in tatsunoko versus capcom is soky and you get the follow-up slash true it's fucking awesome it's really cool yeah i'm way on board with that it's so good man um so that's that's yeah let's see what happens there hopefully some um garganto oh no we have the first confirmation confirmed game that will support all amiibos oh wow all amiibos all the amiibos no matter what amiibo no matter what everybody put it in there no the oshi game it uses only some of them for the costume

well no i was gonna say because it's it seems like poke and tournaments doing it in the same way as hyrule warriors where all amiibos do generic thing yeah yeah so hyrule warriors did it then yeah bummer what's this all amiibo mario maker did all them okay it's poke and tournament yeah okay we don't know what the thing is yeah we don't know what the thing is but i can't i'd be shocked if it was anything more than a generic but like it wouldn't be that hard you've got you know it wouldn't be that hard to release an amiibo festival that uses all the amiibos it's just it's not like there's 800 of them no exactly that's why it's so upsetting there's fucking like 30 maybe more actually but count the smash characters less than 50 no it's add the inklings add 12 animal crossing characters

there's less than 70 add 120 animal crossing cars stop no it's hard though add the add the mute to amiibo card that comes with poke and tournament like the number has ballooned you know what's fucking dumb amiibos they did them they man how many amiibos do you on zero that's maybe that's the correct amount of amiibos hey woolly you want to have your fucking naruto days since naruto shit out there put that fucking how many amiibos do you own here's why i don't here's why i don't feel bad though because the amiibos i own they're i like looking at yeah that's fine but they're nice to look at that's for sure like nintendo has made like like fucking dlc even worse by making it physically based and then not using it for most

of its stuff and it could have been the best it could have been they they just need one nintendo quality disney infinity style game and then it's and that's it like and that's all they need how much does uh how much does an amiibo cost 14 bucks if you do it properly like it's like so like they have made even the 14 is like the that's the msrp but yeah they have made even the shittiest pieces of dlc cost at least 14 which could have been the best pieces of dlc because it could have been the gift that keeps on keeps on giving yeah because the only way that value proposition works when you get over many games spinner link yeah it's like spinner link in game in hyrule warriors a game that has like 50 fucking fighters he's not worth 14 dollars unless

unless you get something like that in 10 different games you can use spinner link in a bunch of different no you can't fuck you man garbage but yeah no the mario amiibo is worth the money garbage but it's almost like old nintendo's peripheral support yeah you know it's almost it's almost from in a new nintendo's no i don't think so because at least the superscope was fun in all the games he's got a point at least though at least peripherals are really fun for the gimmick games they come with but they're sent to die can i ask you something like for the games that you guys have used your amiibos in what have you actually done with your amiibos other than look at them uh let's see in mario kart there was all these uh the the the the car the carts you got a

bunch of carts that were customized to the character and stuff uh in smash i only used it briefly so we could do the yeah we did the video and then i uh the splatoon and that was it for me platoon for all the the levels that should have just been in the game um yeah hyrule warriors is the one i used the most because i played that for so long and every day i'd scan five amiibos which is the limit and you get a bunch of rare materials and those were great because they saved you grinding a little bit um because none of these none of the things you have just said yeah have anything that is helped by it actually being a physical object in the world no not other than you want to have it because it looks nice i wouldn't have bought it if they weren't like the skylanders toys like save

all their data to them and you can swap them around and they bring them to your friends place do stuff yeah if it was just the base that they were selling and it was there's no figure on it i didn't i wouldn't have bought any of them no that's a fact that they need that fucking core game because right now it's they're getting worse and worse over time like the more amiibos they add and the less they support and the amiibo sales are fucking bananas they're ridiculously good these things are selling like no other thing i bet they would be exactly the same if they did nothing other than just be plastic possibly i bet i bet well i'm back it off 15 percent you know i mean you know how we you know how we used to talk about like uh skylanders being born

out of nintendo's ignorance not taking the deal yeah they're still ignorant what if that didn't have always been ignorant and like they just sandbagged it like they did with this and you know what i mean like what if that skylanders what if what if they took skylanders and ruined it and and yeah and just did it like you did it like this and didn't support it did you see despite the sales they did do the skylanders crossover and it's like look oh yeah these two amiibos will work yeah skylanders you can use two yeah fuck off it has yeah no that's not good enough toes in the water like policy you know what i mean hey they got applied hey man they got mobile games to make yeah yeah yeah uh we've got a cool new trailer well we've got the new trailer for runner two

which uh we talked about before but uh bit trip continuing to make awesome games and check that out runner two's coming out on february 23rd and you know runner two's been out for like two years uh what really i thought it was i think you're talking about the ps4 version right yeah yeah it's been out for many years i've got it on my vita actually right now yeah it's a good game i didn't even realize okay yeah well now we can confirm that's a good game that game's really good no i yeah awesome i guess it's on everything you can except for the ps4 and the xbox one but yeah uh we've got a bunch of trailers whole bunch of trailers uh following that one we've got the new tech in seven trailer that shows off some of the new costumes character oh boy things oh boy

nina's costume uh so we've got literal bride nina nina looks amazing in her costume that looks fantastic uh because if you couldn't get any more like uma thurman here you go here you see akuma with his meter yep he's got fucking meter yeah the first screenshot we see he's got two exes to spend and burn and he was doing yellow moves he's doing buttery yeah and we were like what how and like this is how that's how it's either that or a costume rage that's nuts uh i think it'll be fine no i think it'll be fine but that's still not everything he did with it including the raging demon took off uh 33 percent that's right so it was like yeah that's manageable balance trailing i could land a counter hit i could land a back one with steve fox and do more damage than that

totally so hey that's because steve fox is fucking broken hey steven fox actually i should say now what as of tech in seven oh yeah i didn't know that he wants to be called steven fox i love all their new costumes being like they're canon yeah it's such a good such a good shake up like without throwing your whole roster out which just changed that candy was that banjo type with the eyepatch pardon there's a banjo looking dude on a bike with an eyepatch i'm not sure i don't know who he is and i tried to look it up but i like brian geary's new look with bandana it looks good bowser jr bandana i like it yeah that's fun uh so yeah akuma won't be in street fighter for a little while guys at least a year he's got to save the world elsewhere i love how it's canon i can't

get over that also we got some better looks at um uh god damn it whatever hey ha she's baby mama and oh yeah her tiger that was cool uh kizumi so um fights with the tiger uh not unlike uh eign in in in some ways we're just jumps in and jumps out that's good i like it yep super sick um so she evil or good or what she is like not she's she's probably chaotic good uh good because i wasn't the impression she was evil oh yeah i thought she was evil too but then it's like no you have to stop my husband yeah because he's too evil because he's gonna destroy the world with this misheema zibat and akuma you need to stop this apocalypse because d-day is about to happen the ships are flying i need it the bombs are about to drop i need

a throwaway line that like ties those series together forever that's like oh yeah the so the the devil jeans just like a genetic satsui no head oh yeah like just just fuck it just just metachlorians because then you can start talking about how ryu has the devil g at a bloodline level because that would explain why ryu has it and ken doesn't yeah but it doesn't it doesn't pop wings on him yet his comments the demon oh you see that new trailer for uh for street fodder yeah i was going next it's the opening i assume yeah so it looks like they added more footage to what they originally called the opening cutscene yeah and the opening that they showed was way too short last time it's clearly not unfinished yeah so now we have what seems to

be the finished one oh looks really good i like it i'm really happy with yeah because it's just continuing what for did it looks really like minimal yes like empty yeah i got that feeling from a lot of street fighter five when i look at it yeah because where it just it looks like it doesn't look um like crazy like ambitious we know that it had a lower budget it's not i know but it's like it's odd i feel like it deserves ambition has gone in one direction and that's the the the game itself and the the online suite so this is the first street fighter game proper new num numeral title uh entry that has been put out just like a normal sequel in a normal time frame and not like we went back and reinvented things yeah brought it forward yeah so along with that comes like a more

modest budget than usual and a lot of other things um they're treating it like three fighters back and now it's a franchise to us so i have a feeling street fighter five is going to last a long time yeah so so so i i definitely feel it as well like it's not getting as grand the treatment like like when you when you looked at mkx should like when you looked at mkx like a week out from launch that game and not just the marketing but that game like the game itself was like dense and crazy ambitious oh my god and s5 is only a week away s5 like does not feel like it has that same like ambition at all it's kind of crazy yeah like the story mode i'm so fucking like i'm excited for it i'm so pumped for the story mode but the the line of over an hour long is like crushingly disappointing

like i'm sure it'll be fine it'll be it'll be 48 minutes long uh no it'll be it'll be depending on how fast you can fight between one hour and one minute yeah and two and a half hours yeah yeah yeah it's just you know uh it's it's just a case of like this is what it means for street fighter to fall into the the normal rotation and not to be the occasional holy shit it doesn't even make sense though like what do you mean like you need to pump it with money you need to have but it's not there no i know but we're going to be what is there we're going to be spending more often so because we're going to be seeing it more often they're going to be pulling back a little bit on the budget oh it's weird so that we can see it more i don't know man like i i get what you're

saying into a degree you're right uh like the money will we'll never know the specifics right because sony's funding it was like how much is that is need versus want well what i what i saw was that the game was going and sony just sped it up basically yeah yeah they weren't going to let that's what i know and they weren't going to sit and let like seven or eight years pass before bringing it back and the other thing is like uh you know i i think what we're looking at now is like the story mode like you could have added more more modes and you could add a couple more characters and the story mode and have the game released in like five months right in the summer but instead we're getting it earlier because the core characters are done and the online is done

and yeah and it's ready to go like fight money store won't even be up until march oh yeah that's that's why it still doesn't really work with the demos and stuff yeah but the the other thing to consider i think that's really interesting actually is that like a lot of the money a lot of the money is going into making sure that you're you're replacing what used to be location tests because they don't have those this time and that's how you fuck up a game like cross-tech in no sure well so no location tests equals you have to do a ton of betas you have to do a ton of public shows and like you have to do so much like internal have you uh have you seen the new stuff that they've been showing off about the stat tracking uh cfn uh yeah yeah uh because that stuff i don't

think we ever talked about it but like to people who don't regularly pay fighting games i think that's some of the most interesting stuff that uh yeah we discussed it when it first got announced but well recently like a week ago like a screenshot came out and it showed off like okay cammy this is what this is how aggressive every one of these top play like these characters is usually towards cammy this is like what works against cammy this is what like doesn't work yeah just hyper granular like tracking that's really useful that's really useful i i guess i guess mkx wasn't a good example but like a better example of a game that had a like more elaborate everything and felt more ambitious in the same time frame was cross tecum yes yeah cross tecum like a vastly

inferior game felt way more ambitious you're totally right they had the the cross the line thing they had yeah and it's the fucking show and so i'm just a bit weirded out because it doesn't make sense to hold back i think it's because the money is invisible the money being sunk into making sure that the gameplay is not busted and then the netcode works is like also cfn yeah i mean you know possibly it's like it's it's like because this is happening so much faster than this process usually takes for a major entry into the street fighter series it has to just make sure that what is there is top notch as it works to spreading it out into multiple things yeah and then the core things might let's be clear like the game is releasing with like a relatively bare bones set of modes releasing

with uh uh it's releasing with online play it's a multiple kind story with bangus art uh the the god what would you call i wouldn't call that bangus character stories what a bangus they're calling them character stories which is arcade mode sure arcade mode with an intro and an outro survival survival other like what i know there's no time attack no but but yeah are the are the trials there nope they are no no bummer not like trials not yet uh and the story mode will cut the real story mode will come later and like that's pretty like it feels like early access street fighter five i don't i think that's i think i think that's kind of what i think you're limited access to early access no don't get me wrong there there's i'm not talking about the bad

standard for early access for like like darkest dungeon like darkest dungeon but when i kind of when i think about them stating that like street fighter five is our platform and this is like the thing to build off of you know what they're releasing this like i can see that being the case right now they're releasing it like it's a moba well yeah like just just here are the characters no for sure i just i i'm just saying i i just feel like i'm looking at it and there's you expect to be a big like we're a week away like it's the same it was the same with street it's not a full package it was the same with smash four where i was saying like it's fucking smash it's fucking street fighter it deserves to be an event yeah and it doesn't feel like there's an event

happening it's not the full package that it usually is uh they're planning to just do it over the event is capcom cup like all the money some of the money went there too no but no seriously like the this feels like a very conscious decision that it's like make it solid make it good and make it so that new people can get in and instead of going for that mass explosion and the trickle off they kind of want the opposite they want the relatively solid buy in and the trickle in but one doesn't remove the other you're right yeah but but yeah and i guess and i guess to some degree getting the average person playing the video game to possibly be interested in the community as content if that makes any sense you know is is another way of looking at this i mean

and it's like like looking at it like i mean we've heard the voice recordings of them saying like community effort orlando well no they want it to be an e-sport that's not a yeah you know for sure so like spending the money and putting it there as well to kind of like push that side where it's like no not just the hardcore's but everybody get on board yeah and and that uh that's another part of why it's not as dense no just just like games like blaze blue have more features games like like that's the only reason it's because there's there's like games that are way smaller franchises are doing more ambitious things they are taking the that's what that's the reason they're taking the risk not to say the content's bad or anything but no it's it's as long as it plays good and the online

play is solid which i after this last beta the last day of that last beta was rock solid was it was it good for you willy yeah it's fine like and like it'll it'll hitch the day the first day right but i am very confident that they got it that they yeah i think so too and i bet that they're convinced that they're able to cut a corner here or cut a corner there and and do a little more long-term plan and save some money right as long as the game is rock solid and it works so here's what i'm pretty sure that's their plan right now and i believe i agree with you i lament that it's not like a fucking like explosion fucking end of the world yeah event but that'll pass after yeah no and again i'm not saying it's a problem just it's it's straight it's odd to some people it is a problem

yeah because some people won't pay attention because they won't even know but right but it feels like a quiet release they need that explosion to care about a fighting yeah but i will say this we just watched killer instinct do the exact same thing in how it was released and how it slowly built itself up well it started lower and then no i i agree but i will point out killer instinct is not crazy popular killer instinct is not street fighter no but i but i the only reason why i bring it up is because like i was satisfied yeah no i'm not saying it won't work i think it'll work i'm very excited for shoot better fight it's all it's just where are the banners flying across the sky yeah and i'm getting the same like yeah feeling that i got one smash four is coming out where i was

like it's all it's all just a big you know uh you know slow roll up to the game going free to play in two years yeah yeah is there no i'm serious is there any doubt that this game will eventually go free to play after in some incarnate after the second pack it's gonna take a while but yeah you'll play you can play as Ryu and Chun-Li in some for this two weeks and next two weeks it'll be nationally some someday yeah like it's it seems so obvious and so built for that yeah definitely like an arcade machine where like you can challenge someone for free and if you win you stay on or i don't know anyway uh god are they even gonna try that model one of the tech and like it was bloodline or some things one of the the free to play thing had that model where you would pay

to for a token oh the ps3 one yeah and you if you won you stayed on yeah and if you didn't you you got five tokens every took like an hour to fill one token back up yeah and if you won you could keep using the same token yeah totally and then if you wanted evolution wasn't the online taking revolution and if you want that game was really fun it was not a great game but you could buy a token yeah and it was a really interesting way but it's like that doesn't work today it's too weird it's good for them and they also they also talked about how uh the fight money stuff is gonna work and they said that if you beat all the story mode stuff and and do most of the most of single player stuff you will easily you will be able to buy the next character yeah won the store

yeah they they write off one character yes they said if you play the game not not the costumes or anything else no the character they uh dalgren said like if you play the game regularly and a lot uh you will be able to just buy everything and and they also they there's a detail in there that like finally makes the whole system makes sense and it's the higher ranked you are the more fight money you're gonna win for your wins which is like so if you're in diamond league or whatever the hell it's called you will easily be able to buy stuff by playing all the time but if you're in shit scrub league you won't because you're not adding value to the game by enriching the player base so now when micross loses and he gives away those twitch turbos he's giving away a lot more

than that yeah yeah yeah yeah no it's it's good that analogy they had of like hey for their league system of like they're you know there's there's there's there's a mlb where the pro players play baseball but then there's your local your local uh team where everybody just gets around and plays and nobody from your local team wants to go up against like sammy sosa and shit like that i'm excited for that league system man uh i'm excited to meet you arguing over that league system over why i'm still better than you even though you're higher just because you spend more time doesn't mean you're better uh so sorry excuse me um we've also got a pocket rumble showing up on steam early access yeah saw that uh sounds like they're gonna be releasing a character every

couple weeks or something like that so um that's cool uh still still looking forward to that that was very fun when we took a look and still waiting on uh some emails one day one day what else is there to say um send more emails have you seen the new uppers trailers i've been watching them all as they come out they're great aren't they all the different fighting styles oh my god i'm sure there's like there's one or two stinkers for everyone but but that then you line up the 12 characters and you're like oh like head stomping 12 wall run into head stomping yeah into like action around the post jump kick wall run that's what it was right yeah yeah yeah like come on yeah lots of palms lots of shoulders lots of cool stuff why you look cool yeah this game looks cool

looks really good uh there's the other the drunken guy and and now we actually saw the context for why they start um uh fucking motorboating chicks yeah it's because like you start paying attention to a girl instead of the fight and then the guy sneaks up behind you and hits someone knocks you into them and you get knocked into it and then you like pull off of it and get powered up yeah so uh uppers uh keep the demos out soon uh is it yeah i'll see you soon a few weeks i can't remember precisely the game's out like april 11th so i man i'm just i'm just sitting over here like giggling street fighter fives out in a week man yeah five five five five five five five five five five uh we've also got uh okay ko liquid plaza turbo okay now uh what what is this exactly this is

oh you haven't seen it okay um cartoon network uh we get a light in here it's really dark yeah uh that's early in this you know what maybe i saw the app go up i may yeah i saw this app go up on the app store is working on it and it's with people a collaboration between people uh that worked on steven universe and a regular show it sure looks like it and uh there's an animated um series that's or i'm an animated short that's supposed to go hand in hand with this um i can't find any footage of that but basically they're making what appears to be like a beat them up type thing and they've got their streets streets of rage and inspired like main dude and that's gonna play super shitty uh it's on mobile like that's gonna play super shitty

don't worry about it's just to beat them up those games suck anyway but the the thing about this is i didn't even realize sorry you didn't even realize like like cuz i didn't even realize uh that this because the game announcement i saw today but i originally saw this as someone sent me a screenshot of like the animated short oh i see so it looks like they're doing this beat them up video game themed cartoon anyway and this happens to be a thing that's going hand in hand with it but it's a new a new like ip i guess that curtain network yeah i actually saw this app go up yesterday so no i i did see this uh maybe a little bit like scott pilgrim in the combat oh that game sucked yeah i can't i can't tell i can't tell yeah but uh i want to see the animated

short though i want to see the cash shop i want to know what the microtransaction level is if there's no microtransactions it's automatically a game i want to see that bunch of guy might be a video game and then coins fall out of the guy and the guy says barf barf barf's a good line that's really pretty much all i want wharf wharf is good wharf is better you guys check out any of those uh mcu trailers that dropped yesterday no i didn't i unfortunately did not actually it's not not just mcu it's um we got uh x-men apocalypse during the superbowl mm-hmm uh that was actually pretty cool oh yeah superbowl trailers superbowl trailers right exactly oh the football god needed his football god did it did um don't show his exposed nipple the who won the football uh i believe this

time it was the was it the horses or the big cat it was the footballers the big cats won the horse ball they won the battle okay you should have seen it they ripped apart that horse the big the big the pig ball take pig balls in the dead pig carcass god one of them is a wrestler now i know so little about football man you run like a thousand yards and yeah you get to the thousand yard line and then you cheat and then you watch yeah yeah you deflate the ball a little bit and you throw it and then you get away with it because they're governing bodies a bunch of shit yeah something like that then you watch and then you threaten you threaten towns that you're gonna leave unless they give you more money yeah and you and you make them make you stadiums and sell

the names of the stadiums then the stadium falls down then then you go home and beat people yeah yeah exactly yeah yeah that's the life man imagine how much more awkward that would have been if we sandbagged it i i regret the decision to not sandbag it now uh football so psych uh silo silo water your wife simulator silo shows up and uh she looks pretty cool um yeah i she looks like silo and i guess who who is playing her uh it's uh liviamon right i was gonna say from this angle i didn't mean for it to start playing well you're an idiot whatever it's fine oh yeah just mute the sound is it liviamon yeah i know it's from this angle i can't actually because i remember seeing an interview with her where they're like they have to like vaseline me into this fucking

costume well fuck well forget that then oh it's magneto yeah so the trailer is just showing like apocalyptic things happening what so that's crazy you know uh it seems like it's gonna have god i hope it's good um yeah he better say the line or some variant there oh i'm sure he will some lame or variant some lame or lame or variant uh then we have the new civil war oh i did see the civil war trailer i didn't see the civil war civil war trailer uh ant-man's in it the new thing to do yeah i can see him yeah the thing the thing to do it's not the new thing to do but certainly the thing to do yeah grab um he's not even the last one in the lineup nope but whatever grab a pop song yeah yeah that pop song and you know sync it up get some gags in there and then have a and then have the full

version on the internet every superhero movie you see the i saw the ninja trailer ninja turtles two trailer for some reason oh it looks better than the first one i guess but then again the trailers for the first one were pretty good too so nothing in nothing in um this trailer was like the stinger of the last one okay with the fucking double team super combo yeah action that was going on because that was fucking amazing what was our full version of of the civil war trailer is just the short no it was just your tv spot just just a super bold spot and then the deadpool trailer which was just like we can't really show you what this is about because it's a super bowl but i'm gonna imply that i'm kind of harsher than usual and then

rated r at the end and hopefully that'll okay whatever man colossus in that movie they just play it straight yeah uh second best ad for uh deadpool is him teaching you how to feel for testicular cancer yeah that's good yeah he's good at that um kudos and shout outs yeah uh dude i'm so happy colossus is in that movie i i am fucking awesome necessarily excited yeah because colossus was always my favorite x-man that never got any play anywhere so is this canon with apocalypse what are deadpool and x-men age or apocalypse connected uh the mutants are there a mutant it's two mutants at least minimum deadpool says the word x-men his lips aren't all so not either who's making who's making fox both of them then it's then it's

totally canon it's totally i guess it is then i guess but is it canon in the x3 timeline no that's the one where deadpool's lips are so not isn't it no yeah so no yeah this is the alternate that's that's that's negated but no but the last trailer showed him actually you see him in that pile like breaking out of it oh yeah it's that same character no that's a different thing no it's the same you see the same pile because they made a joke about that in the market yeah but no it's the same character from the stupid so it is the new universe just things happened a little different because we're just we're going back to fix it but it's because because magneto was there and he was a handsome or guy this time i didn't have a sense of humor and things turned different and mystique

became more important even though she sucks now uh i could ask you about the suicide squad trailer yeah but more importantly did you watch the suicide squad trailer where they replaced all the footage with cartoon footage i didn't know i didn't you gotta watch that is it better i i appreciate it did you see the marvel versus uh marvel versus dc sorry the batman versus superman turkish airlines uh fly to gotham fly to metropolis ads no what those are way better than the actual trailers for that movie they're tourism ads for gotham and metropolis done by Bruce Wayne yeah Bruce Wayne and uh and uh jesse eisenberg uh luther that's neat and they're being shown on turkish airlines as like as the actual ads that's pretty they are much better than the actual trailers well it's

embarrassing suicide squads trailer made it look like not a terrible movie so what the hell is the enemy force in that movie is that the evil black goo from every movie it's ivy news yeah yeah he's back because man with reader repulsa it's time to conquer i don't i don't know who the antagonist no and i don't i can't say i care that much i just don't want it to be made up black black goo monster man like that is this like i well again i get it it looks it looks it doesn't look like it was terrible the last trailer was actually pretty no i watched the previous trailer and it was it's it's all right i'm but i'm not sure if that was just because of the queen music no yeah well there's that but there's also my like i'm just super bum but hurting biased about you can do this again

harley oh he's gonna do it again no that's all i'm moving on yeah i'm moving on um yeah he's moving because because the problem in this case is that like you know obviously we get called like bias against dc and uh towards marvel and stuff yeah because it sucks and i often will stand and say that like there's good and shit on both sides but in this clay in this case it's like here's five movies and the two ones that don't look great are the dc ones i would say that suicide squad has a lot of potential to be good but but batman or superman like looks like it's going to be a like like like age of age of apocalypse and deadpool aren't even mcu right like it's totally no it's just fox but it's like this just seems to be the first of fox attempting to get a shit

together i think i think fantastic four was probably the first of that but it didn't go good days of future yeah you're right days of future wow we're all we're all dumb yeah that was the first time they got their shit together yeah so that that was that showed yeah wait no first class first class i was gonna say that wasn't the first one wow we're all stupid all over again all right i'm not saying anything so i'm exempt from this fox got their shit together with first class yeah absolutely then and then they lost damn fantastic four yeah yeah but but no they're continuing like the we're doing it for fixing it this time yes the the new trilogy yeah just just remember aquaman and uh neighbor and green lantern i've yet to be shown in any of the batman

versus god man stuff oh my god that green lantern movie is the most offensive thing to my eyes oh yeah that the one with ryan reynolds so bad yeah i hate ryan reynolds the superheroes i can't believe how bad that was like i hope i hope he makes a joke about it somewhere yeah you know my favorite thing about green lantern is it's some clip that somebody sent me from some just a sleek animated movie in which dark side is invading and he goes hold up everybody it's green lantern time let's go and dark side punches him into a building yeah and he falls down and the goons just start yeah and everyone's like oh that's fantastic that's a good clip uh other other cool things are him summoning a gurren legan logo to fight um actually actually that's pretty neat like with

the shades and everything um because uh kyle is an artist and like has more creative thoughts than uh howl and some of the other who thinks of car uh i'm gonna make a sledgehammer he's gonna make a car and put it on the hot wheels track like my nephew he's a piece of boring architect so i'm gonna make a gun um and it's courage when you have a gun you know green lantern just walking around with a jacket full of guns that's all i got and then john steward is his you know like everybody has different personalities so they make yeah this is green lantern thing is a political comedy show uh that's about right that's about right this is some zingers um this podcast is terrible if we've

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crewman does he even have that what was supposed to happen exactly uh he was supposed to do the opening for it he's supposed to he's supposed to do a stupidity thing i believe for norcal regionals i remember that yeah but also when like once s kill was still around when cvs2 was being played when cvs2 was being played at norcal regionals did that ever happen uh you know what did he even make that i will mark that as to be read later mark it as important we'll get back it's coming back next week uh oh this one too this uh dude is asking us to do um lp awards lp awards lp awards we kind of need matt for that i give myself all the awards uh okay because i'm the best we got one um joseph john and joseph john johnson uh says hey i've recently started playing folklore

and i noticed that they have characters going through the levels but being justified by having one come after the other and was wondering if uh you had any thoughts on this feature and should more games with character choices do the same i thought that in folklore it was done really poorly because the level was like almost exactly the same the levels are too similar in folklore uh they're like that game's really sick though so it's really cool but like i couldn't do it because like you go through the level as one character and then the story justification was not that they went through later but they went through like right after like 10 steps behind the other person so that's why the stage is exactly the same it's like oh come on yeah uh so

odynsphere does this as well and uh at first it's kind of okay but by the time you get through it all it's not okay dmc four tries to do it i was about to go there too uh vanilla where are the king of stretching their content too thin yeah they're they their games are almost great consistently because the first 15 hours of their games are incredibly strong but then every subsequent hour is the same okay for every moment of feeling fresh while playing a vanilla where game there's going to be two on the back end if not if only two not fresh if only two dude dragons crown the amount of times you have to play those levels it's a lot like to actually finish the game actually finish the game it's a lot a lot vanilla where is really bad with that i really hope that with

agus rim they're finally able to buck that no they're gonna add more because it would be so nice to play a vanilla where games start to finish and it's over yeah at the closest thing to that is the four amazing dlc campaigns for maramasa rebirth which are all fucking fantastic because they're short i mean at least at least dragons uh i mean um dragon's crown yeah has the decency to have a fake ending yeah so you think you're done and you stop you know where you or you can be satisfied quote unquote but anyway dmc4 did it to a limited oh yeah success i i thought that was all right they i was okay with it i think your mileage will vary depending on how much you like definitely cry yeah basically and it like how much you enjoy having a new character yeah but but at least going

through the sections in reverse order is something well that but that's what i'm getting to is like for me i like i love it and like i had a blast going through it as nero and then when you switch to dante and you're like oh now i get to fucking do the dante versions of watching him own all these bosses and just like don't a shit his way through the world i think i was really satisfied i think the king is still like untouchable unfightable it's not even my favorite game in the series but symphony of the night is the king yeah like forever and always having the rector campaign the upset upside down castle oh well he's talking about like multiple uh does that count yeah it's close enough yeah it's such a good twist but it is kind of the same but that's like but it plays

yeah that's content i would i would say that yeah the content is i would say that the best game to to use this mechanic of all time is re2 because you go through the game as one character and some of those items will and and things will pat will carry over and it's the layout is obviously exactly the same with a couple more areas add to the back end but it's also acts as a complete enemy and item remix of the game and quadruples the length of that game to that end uh revelations to i want to say 30 to 40 of the areas you visit as both characters they're usually very good at making the time yeah they're six months later yeah exactly yeah uh they're they're pretty good at that i think but you know when you hit a moment it's filler and you're artificially artificially

lengthening your game and we know it and you know it and everyone knows it just don't it's hard not to but but like just the hour that the lost hour there it's like you know okay we'll be like ah so it was a bit too short here but that's a way less like annoying memory to have of a game then i was too long because you can just dragging it out because you can just play it again you know revenge is really short but there's no filler that's what's so good about so you just play it again or or win waker if win waker came up hours shorter than i expected it to be because they got rid of that stupid bullshit then you know i would have been like oh i was kind of short you all know what stupid bullshit he's talking about don't even pretend and and you know

now i just go back and go well now they fixed it but it's not but i i always like the triforce search because i always felt like that's how it would be looking for a fucking triforce like it's a pain but it's the same thing is bravely default where they make you loop five times four or five times because that's how it would be and that's cool the intense awesome i didn't like that one but you're like i don't like to do this but the intense i get i get it if you really jive with the intent like i really like the triforce search it was really cool but i can't fault you for not liking it like and i mean and i'm even bravely default oh yeah and i and i enjoyed the sailing you know what i mean like i did yeah and as somebody like me who didn't enjoy that sailing

that's where i stopped playing you can't play you can't like 20 minutes in you know no i mean the triforce oh the triforce okay like because it's like hey do the thing that you hate the most with a grind with a this and it's like no i'm not i am not you know like can we go sail over there okay see that's the difference yeah go shoot that super ship okay yeah yeah did you kill the super ships in black flag i took down a super ship and then i was like they're crazy they're so nuts i'm sad i took down one and i was like i'm never they all they all have different challenges too like they're because it was the what it was when like you enter the zone and it's like you're entering the zone are you sure i'm like yeah i'm ready and like you get you eat one you

eat one of its broad sides and your whole boat is on fire you're like i'm ready i'm done there was one that was average was average really strong there was a rammer there was a artillery one and then i forget what the fourth and the fucking boat like stops in place and just rotates like it felt like fighting like boss and bison in boat form like what do you eat why do you have j-hu tea thrusts on your boat the boat lifts out of the water it just comes at you double jumping and triple jump yeah exactly that shit was great that shit was great i love i love that enemy type man i love that enemy the hyper enemy yeah just like why is that boat doing doom triangle jumps at me you did everything now here you go your father rotain your super boat your

in gravity rush there's a bunch of secret bosses that are like they'll shoot bullets faster than you can dodge so you have to just let yourself fall okay it's the only way to to go fast enough oh yeah yeah okay interesting it's it's those bosses are sick like hyper bosses yeah cameron says read my question attempt number three okay hi guys first and foremost you did it thanks for the shenanigans and gaming enough i'm skipping ahead all you're not reading skull god i'm working on my first greatest gaming achievement something called solo crinnity trinity ghost ship and resident evil rev one which basically requires clearing the entire cruise ship with a limited with limited ammo yeah no checkpoints no help kill every single enemy

including a 10 round multi boss gauntlet that's in raid mode i think and not take a single scratch of damage that seems hard a towering challenge indeed so my question is this what's your white whale of gaming achievements the white whale of like we never got it but we wanted to or yeah white whale means you never did it right uh i probably uh dead space to beating the game and under three saves or whatever that trophy was shit i tried that i tried so hard to do that i tried so hard i i started fucking hard i started and i remember save point number two was before the second fight with the raptors and what do you mean save point number two like it says you save it underneath three times yeah that's like that was where you put it yeah

save point number two was before the second fight was about 60 through the game and i had so much trouble with the raptors that i was like i'm never gonna be able to beat the rest of the game it's just so brutal things kill you in one go like i should i should have done it afterwards but then i would never have gotten that because like that fight is fucking hard yeah i mean it's been so long on that i can't even oh that's a good one pot probably that i mean oh um completing all the challenges in four oh you know yeah that's a lot a lot of those are useless the trials crimson viper challenge five the trials yeah they're brutal can you fff yeah do i have any that i've some of the late stuff for again and see viper and like see viper's trials are the stupidest craziest just no

just no man uh i mean it's it's hard like any almost any of the characters it's hard to get the final trials in but i was able to some of the some of them easier than others like like i was able to complete most yeah but but there's some standouts where you're just like no definitely well dude did you try marvel 3's as well like uh marvel 3 will take you for a loop with those yes i did i did i did i did in vanilla okay i did the vanilla combo things and yeah i i feel like i got i did a bunch an alt and uh in vanilla but then in ultimate i really had to go at it and like oh they yeah i know what mine is i never i tried it and i got about two-thirds of the way through and just couldn't do anything i couldn't do my my european extreme like no detection no kills

which came on subsistence mgs3 i got i got about halfway maybe two-thirds through and i was just like oh my oh my fucking god this is just hard it's hard i mean yeah hard uh we got one coming in from it was it was the it was the escape that escaped it was the escape that broke me i was gonna escape from grozman grad that i just couldn't that that question can also read as what save files do you have that are stuck due to difficulty oh yeah oh yeah uh i mean i did go back and be buying a commando eventually yeah you did it yeah there's some out there it's a cool question that's a good question good luck with that none of us doing the the go ship like that in revelations is that's crushing oh i never beat i never beat tofu oh you never beat ever beat tofu no well there

you go yeah i tried pretty hard when i was a kid but i was it was not up to i was not up to it um okay we got one that also probably should have mad around so let's get that save uh what if dr bathroom asks what if street fighter five literally took years off your life what if really if released on day one for every hour you played within that 24 hour period oh it's not a it's not a fucking some oh man uh a year of your life was eliminated on day one only for day one how would you keep playing he doesn't see that's what he says alternatively what if every loss suffered in five no matter the mode meant that the player would lose four ounces of blood if it if if it were day one if that day one thing we're just day one just wouldn't play on day one yeah that's right but if

they were if that were permanent forever yeah wouldn't play if there if there were any negative like things i wouldn't play it yeah i wouldn't play it even even a game like that like that that's too much no i can i'm already on the verge of death right now yeah i can't chance this with magic and i mean you know not not to shatter kayfabe or anything but there's a lot of good other fighting games that i can yeah like no definitely right now that won't shang sung your life force yeah i can double down on guilty gear nitro plus blasters is waiting for you well they are well yeah who i know right that's the right answer can you believe john bomb took a look at that game and did they call it a knockoff persona i don't know man chinese persona uh isn't it no so this is

not they said about jojo i don't even know this is not me this is just a lot of actually related questions coming in okay yeah well i bet is expected no yeah but give me some street fight i need to put the disclaimer up because okay yeah your woolly is not parsing them just for that aspect of our audience that just hates fighting games is not going to have a good week next week or the week after pair up pair up every deadly sin with a street fighter character oh lust would be jury i guess birdie gets gluttony uh birdie gets birdie and rufus or sloth uh sloth i'd give to kody sloth is kody could yeah i'd give sloth to kody wrath would be for you or kuma laurath it doesn't really count but whatever pride prides bison it's bison all day bison um

envy would be dan or shon probably is vanity a deadly sin no no because that would be very greed is rufus a bow rock no bow rock man my fight month oh yeah yeah box right gluttony is rufus gluttony is rufus and birdie yeah mainly rufus birdie has a move that eats donuts birdie's less fat but birdie was just like lounging around at the estate for fighting karen a thousand years doing nothing getting fat fighting karen think about it he fights karen a thousand times a day and he still gets fat think how you see how big that donut is you see how big that donut is man that's some gluttony right there you're right though rufus is a good pick for it too uh anger anger anger anger it'd be evil reo or any of that so you know hodogas yeah because it's murder and

worm um girl mad girl isn't like new zombie charlie nash all about that he's super pissed yeah yeah yeah he's very murdery angers angers a trickier one it doesn't feel like like sagat i was thinking of like adon but adon's like an asshole adon's just an asshole uh adon would be pride also pride nv gluttony lust anger greed sloth yeah we did it yeah we did it yeah high five no one uh and driving around on the moon that is the so i thought that video was gone if you type in street fighter for a hype car into into google it will bring that shit up in a second nice uh and then you type in fries hyped on the moon and you get the other version

and uh chatterbox wants to know why i hate western fantasy i don't hate western fantasy he hates western fantasy art you really hate western fantasy i hate like boring stuff that we've seen a lot of but i don't hate this i just hate boring shit of which this is part of the secret is we're all huge weaboos well that's part of the all four of us are and that may not appear that way no no that's not a secret no um like honestly like if it's really good design and art then i have no problem with it at all yeah and i mean you like star wars yeah the only but but yeah but the only western fantasy art is made by japanese people but no like if if if your western fantasy stuff doesn't have a creative look to your like dark age if you're just doing token yeah if you're

just doing token again and nothing else that's boring aside from what token already did yeah i'm bored also because that's like how i can't stand single coup stuff anymore i can't stand it right no you all the fucking same lose your mind right because i and it's not and it's not even like and now thing it's like i grew up surrounded by nothing but token inspired stuff and i played dnd and i know knights and dragons and orcs and elves and i know it inside out and i'm very tired you don't care about a good old-fashioned bugbear yeah if it's well designed yeah and this is just art perspective you know i mean it it already does kind of suck that like the most exciting age to use has to be medieval because you had like there's just so much going on that it's it's a good setting

to go back to i wish there were times before and after that that you could have space guns like look at the xeno clash like fuck yeah that's just weird look at star wars like fuck western fantasy no but but you know the time of weapons and swords and you know the crusades and all like the dark ages and so on is like the time you're gonna keep revisiting because that's where all our lore is and our you know um camelot type stories and it's just like you know yeah i don't it's been done i don't really it's been done i don't really like stories where it's like oh it's a reimagining of x culture yes this is a reimagining of viking culture boring this is a reimagining of greek culture boring this is a reimagined like it all bores me like

there's probably a thought of war one was really cool there's probably a few that stuck out and and it's like okay that one was pretty cool but as a general god of war one was really cool yeah and a couple because there was a there was a still a sleeper culture and there and there was like there was this implicit like understanding the god of war two would be a different culture but at the same time if you had played lots of age of empires or sieve then you were already used to that of course you know so even that and now we've got for honor coming and that looks for honor looks cool looks cool you know doing the mashup but like but like we but at least them some knights them some vikings them some samurais we've we know we done it i had a similar reaction to

chivalry where i didn't pay attention to chivalry for a long time because of the art until i saw how it played and then i got in there was just just games fucking real but would it not benefit from not looking that way uh the way that it plays actually no like chivalry is actually the way it has a very specific heaviness to it that only kind of makes sense because it looks like that all right if you were in space or ninjas or whatever it wouldn't work as well even though they did make a ninja expansion what if you were in gaima lefts that'd be cool that'd be pretty cool that'd be pretty cool yeah all right let's go uh let's go do something other than this and and think about gaima lefts uh but we gotta we gotta talk about we're not done what's coming up what's

coming up what's coming up uh what is coming up is uh we are gonna be at magfest liam you and i am at on the weekend of the 21st through 22nd i think and the friday is when our panel is happening yeah friday in the evening i don't remember the exact timing but um in the p.m pay attention to the magfest schedule yes we'll have some more details and a video will definitely pop up okay we do have another event later that weekend as well but i don't remember when it is we do have another event later that weekend that's true where we would be playing a mystery game so i thought you meant only to be stomping down the ustabias that's all weekend that's all weekend that's all weekend that's never stopping that runs all weekend off the plane the battle starts exactly what battle

what battle right we step out of the plane onto them i have the new art of them as my wallpaper it's kind of gross how cool it is so much better it's so it's so fucking cool um also uh we have our uh second stream announcement and uh if you missed it we're gonna be taking a look at mindjack under this shitty games done slow moniker we're finally putting shitty games on slow into practice putting it into practice and uh mindjack for those of you who don't know is a game in which shitty game mindjack is art okay yeah shitty art it encourages art it encourages participation which version are we playing well i have the 360 version okay i guess we're playing the 360 version then put it out there it's done now you locked it in if you have a copy of mindjack or you're

james small you can join us by invading our game like you would in a souls game i bet there won't be that many active games that weekend so it should be ours exactly to get in there and ruin our stream so that's on the 13th from 6 p.m. to midnight right whenever yep yeah 6 p.m. to fucking whenever yeah though while we're stopping playing yeah i gotta catch a metro yeah that's the plan the plan is midnight but uh we'll see what happens um we should even stagger them forward an hour so that we don't have metro concerns in the future yeah that's fine too maybe you can't change it now not this one no yeah uh what's coming up on that uh the channels and the sites and the and all that stuff uh you may have seen it you may have not but uh whether or not you demanded it

because you demanded it more reboot yeah so i was talking to you earlier and was like are you timing these to to to coincide with people's frustration levels it's awesome i really love how everyone thinks it's over even though i say it's not and then they ask for more and then when i put more out it's like why no stop i hate this steve carel dot give wins more yeah that's good so i'm loving it reboot will continue i think otherwise it's more or less the regular schedule right the stuff that's been going on resident i don't think uh odalis and i don't think anything i don't think anything ends this week either so no i don't think so yeah so if you like the stuff that we've been putting out there's more of it it's all there uh there yeah one offer there might be

a one-off we're looking at the schedule right now oh and um everyone's been asking oh yeah i answered just to definitely confirm it for you guys yeah the the da da demon souls first uh five hours of play uh the first session is going up this week for sure so that's useful for us too because when we go back to that game eventually you can you can like skim through it yeah what is this game yeah yeah so no uh every time we we we every time we stream something we're gonna chunk it up and put it on the channel for those of you who missed it and yeah that's going to be so like everyone in the uk yeah and Australia yeah uh yeah so the archives are going to be uh up and uh they're they should already be up as of the time of reading this actually okay yeah and

i'm putting them up in like two hour chunks three hour chunks that makes sense it's a lot of content a single five hour video would probably it will be hard to get no no it's it's like but i'm putting them up in processable yeah yeah yeah exactly yeah because you know even though youtube says it can do a thousand hour video and you can see that those music we tried it it's like it's rough sometimes it just chokes to death on that shit what y'all looking forward to uh let's see this week uh unravel is coming out so you can finally get in on urney remember urney yes yeah the nervous swedish guy talking about that red cat the red well plushy thing yeah made of yarn looks like a cat kind of got ears yeah cat it's out that's out tomorrow uh that's out and uh breath of fire three is coming

out uh the psp version which never came out in north america that is a good game yes it comes out tomorrow that is a god damn game if you want to play a good god damn rpg there's that also turn into a dragon that's a fucking good choice dragon dragon uh i'm not looking forward to anything because all the a bunch of stuff that i was looking forward to came out and playing it now like i'm still playing life life's going downhill from here no but like even though the next podcast will be before recorded before its release i don't care it's street fighter they also said there will be other stress tests before the game well there you go so there will be at least another day of street watch as your character turns into a charge character overnight i'd be really happy

with that and then i play back at zangief becomes a charge character that could be good in some ways i play charge characters it would make me happy i'm sure everyone does i bet grog will still be a charge character to watch as your character randomly chooses between charge and motions as the night progresses mid-mid-match i don't know about this dude street fighter five unprecedented new feature mid-match balance changes there you go up on stage live frame data changing as you play the update downloads and it will it will it will update it after your one match and then it'll give you the notes and go into the next one is like what what no no it's like a like a window you scroll through yeah this week has one standout looking forward to thing for me yeah what's that fucking

deadpool yeah oh yeah yeah yeah we'll see that deadpool they were all gonna see that great the reviews seem stellar so comes out friday not that i wouldn't see it otherwise man yeah i hope colossus punches a thing and says something in a russian metal accent that's what i want me too i hope they hope deadpool throws in for a fastball special a glance if not a whisper uh of death of death i really really hope they go there that'd be cool because that would be more than cool that'd be the fucking best it's kind of the guy for a deadpool comic just a moment you know like any of them the great moments they have just give us one of those could be the stinger even especially with Thanos on this way but that's not the same universe that's not the same universe but but i know but

sure no that doesn't make any sense willy no but they could take a stab at it to be dicks is what i'm saying oh okay of the dick stab yeah yeah the most dangerous one you gotta watch out for the second swallow watch out there's not enough room for two stabs in your dick wow all just falls off after that yeah that's that's what a scissor is right two stabs yeah all right it's time to end this part i think it's time to go uh