Castle Super Beast - SBFC 136: Slave Syrup

Episode Date: March 15, 2016

This week on the Friendcast: Matt confronts Florida Man, Pat fights UPlay, Woolie tries overrated cuisine and Liam Battrides....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This episode is brought to you by Loot Crate, the service that brings a box of good stuff for geeks, gamers, and pop culture nerds straight to your door. You only have until the 19th at 9 p.m. Pacific to subscribe and receive that month's crate. And when the cutoff happens, that's it, it's over. So go to lootcrate.com slash super and enter promo code super to save three dollars on your new subscription today. How much glass can the human body ingest and survive? Great question, Woolly. What's our esoteric fact for this episode? Combo breaker!
Starting point is 00:00:48 You can eat like little tiny ass pieces of powdered glass. Basically, the logic is, if the piece of glass is too small to be seen on an x-ray, you'll probably be fine. So if it's like a grain of sand, no big deal. So if you drop something on the ground and it shatters, get it in your mouth as quick as possible. Yeah, no, you'll have a story to tell. Maybe, maybe it'll fix the thing. As long as you don't inhale. Yeah, because it goes down the wrong pipe.
Starting point is 00:01:15 Inhaling glass is way, way done. No, that's some trauma center shit. I wish you had told me that before. So I'm chewing these lozenges. So in case you hear a crickety crack noise, that's not me eating glass. These throat lozenges, because my throat is, my throat is, yep. You're hoping that the lozenges will air out the glass. That's not the one who ate the glass. My throat is fucked right now.
Starting point is 00:01:38 Okay, all right. But you know, it's important to learn these things. What's the esoteric fact for 130 fat? The esoteric fact. Pat's angry. Fuck me today. Pat's angry at himself. God damn it.
Starting point is 00:01:48 He's angry that his dick is mush. Well, welcome to episode 136 of the podcast. That's what happens when you're sick. And today, I will, it's my pleasure to relate to you the fact that as of this moment, apparently, I'm to understand, there is exactly $136 worth of DLC in the game Evolve. Wow. Wow, that is a good fact. Does that include the game?
Starting point is 00:02:17 No. I don't think so. No, no, no, no, no. That's a lot. That's just the DLC. Where does the, like, I can understand 36, but where does 100 come from? Costumes. A lot of it's costumes.
Starting point is 00:02:26 That's a lot for a game people aren't playing. I remember seeing they were releasing a lot of costumes. Monsters. Mostly costumes, though, yeah. Probably a level or two. You know. No, the levels are free. The levels are explicitly free.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Okay. It was the monsters that was the issue, really. And the game would be, what, 70 in the States with taxes? 60 at launch. Now, 20. It's 70 with tax. Oh, yeah, that's true. Aren't they releasing, like, a quote-in-quote game of the year edition?
Starting point is 00:02:52 They already did. They already did. They already, they just did? Okay. Some with $200 worth of content. I don't know. Somebody gave it to us. Somebody.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Here, buy this console. Yeah. Yeah. Remember when they used to sell those EA consoles at Future Shop? Yeah. Oh, no. The plug-and-play ones? The plug-and-play.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Yeah, of course. Totally. Those are great. Someone bought that. Galiko made a couple of those. I did. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 00:03:18 What possessed you? I'm kidding. Oh. That's not a funny joke, Matt. The new Galiko, I mean, made a couple of those. Because that, like, that's a whole fucking series if we could get one of those. They plug in RGB.
Starting point is 00:03:31 They're really easy to get. Yeah. Yeah. I think John showed a good video. They go for dirt on the Internet. I would love to see more. Although it's all games that you can get elsewhere. It's just a half-step above, like, Game and Watch.
Starting point is 00:03:42 It's more, you're more or less just reviewing the OS. That are just a bright red and blue Spider-Man dick, like joystick embedded into a little disc, and the disc plugs into a TV, and you can play one Spider-Man game. Yeah. Those are great. It's worth it.
Starting point is 00:03:59 40 bucks for one Spider-Man game. To let Gwen Stacy drop, always worth it. Oh, look. Wiggle the dick to have the little web hand try and grab her. Oh, Peter. Who was that supposed to be? MA. OK.
Starting point is 00:04:13 I was going to say. Uncle Ben. But really, she was dropped on purpose because of those babies she had. Yeah. Yeah. Wouldn't it be great if Uncle Ben and Spider-Man was just Uncle Ben from the rice box?
Starting point is 00:04:25 Yeah. The same guy? Yeah. Always confused me. Identical. Well, there's like, he just walks in the screen like, hey, Peter, if you're going to be super heroine, you should eat this delicious rice.
Starting point is 00:04:34 And fuck, fuck. No, Ben, no. And he just pours rice down his throat. Get Aunt Jemima in there. Aunt Jemima. And now you got Uncle Ben and Aunt Jemima like raising Peter Parker. Now you got yourself.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Now you're cooking a stew. Put this. Now you got a stew going. Maple syrup on your rice. That's disgusting. That's horrible. And that's what turned them into a weird radioactive monster. Why is there like a old, like, black, like,
Starting point is 00:04:56 Mammy as like the logo of a goddamn maple syrup company? Because it's just like your old Mammy used to make, you know? You remember your slave old Mammy? You remember? I do. And she, well. She made the best slave syrup ever. And everything.
Starting point is 00:05:10 And that's like literally exactly what it is. And that's depressing. Why is there a native lady on the Lando Lakes like covers? To imply servitude. I don't know what Lando Lakes is. What is it? It's an American butter company. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Yeah. Pepperidge farm remembers. Who that bitch on the raised box? I don't know. Yeah. What's that all about? Who is she? She never gets any play.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Because she's stupid hot. It's true. You really take a look at the energy of her. Yeah. Take this little strawberry like woman. Who the fuck are these people? Who knows? These people exist somewhere out there.
Starting point is 00:05:43 These are the questions. I'm sure the Quaker Oats guy is a huge dick. Oh man. That he's always smiling. Where do you think the oats come from? Dude, that motherfucker, he looks like he was plowing slave ass in the back. Oh boy. He looks like he was out back fucking disciplining quote unquote people that weren't working hard enough.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Get out Jemima out front. Jefferson style. Get her out front. I believe it. Just look at that hat. This needs more oats. He's more slave syrup. Oh man.
Starting point is 00:06:15 What do you, how do you, I'm sure if you, if you mix all these ingredients together. We were just talking about evolves like a minute ago. That's where it goes. The hard turn to slave syrup. And we're just under the five minute mark. Nice. Perfect. Episode 136.
Starting point is 00:06:30 Oh, I didn't notice you there. Welcome to the super best friend cast. Hey. Yes. Does that work when like you can't see anyone? Well, the camera's on. Yeah. Hey, member of the Zaibatsu.
Starting point is 00:06:43 You look like you had a week. How did that week go? Yes, I certainly did. Said Matt. Yeah, I guess I was assuming he met me. Oh, I don't know. Did you meet me? I just, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:06:55 You're the boss. I didn't look at anyone. He just threw a ten. Not on the podcast. I'm not. He just threw a tennis ball to the pack of dogs and wanted to see which one would get it. And none of them barked. Barked.
Starting point is 00:07:04 I coded it in slave syrup. Bark with me if you're my dog. That's, it's, it's hard for you to ignore slave syrup when it's out. It's out there. You just speaking of slaves, I went to Key West, which had tons of slaves and pirates and they all died and we were walking on their corpses. Wow. Good times.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Because they told you there's tons of corpses all over. You're walking on them right now. Also, our ground is too like, has too much like rock in it. So all of our graves are built above ground. So they're all like carrots. When you go into the cemetery, they're just stone boxes. They're just hanging out bodies all over the place. I bet it'd be really easy to steal a skeleton and put your dick in it.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Yeah. I bet it would. There's nothing blocking you anymore. Not change. Have a giant hole. Not society. But yeah. Just that metals, metal all for revenge.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Yeah. Oh, I'm loose today. Speaking of like fucking. Tazahata is calling me right now. He's phoning you. Answer, answer, answer, answer, answer, answer. Call him back. Damn it.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Why didn't you pick up? Anyway, I went to Florida, but I, you know, I have a, I made a little like fun vacation video, but I'll just talk about Key West. Key West was a sick ass party town. Probably the coolest nightlife I've seen in a while. Lots of good food. Lots of scary spooky ghost tours that I went on. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:33 And we met Robert, which is a spooky doll that's over a hundred years. In the middle of the podcast, Oostabayaz, what the fuck do you want? What do you want? Yes. Well, I would like a ticket to WrestleMania. I would also like that one ticket. Oh fuck off, Oostabayaz. Just one though.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Okay. Well, I will go on that trip and I will spend the money it takes to get to Texas. I'm sorry I yelled at you, Oostabayaz. Yo, fuck you, Takahata. We should fight. You're breaking up because it's too... Oh, then he just dropped the call. Wow.
Starting point is 00:09:39 All right. So Matt, what are you doing this summer? No, that's at the end of this month, I think. Well, shit. What are you doing at the end of this month? Mania's April, dude. You ever been RKO'd off the plane steps? I've not yet.
Starting point is 00:09:53 But yeah, that's cool. I will follow up on whatever that was. That's super cool. Yeah, that's a plan by Oostabayaz. So dissension out of you. I'm just 100 percent. Hey, how many tickets do you have? Four?
Starting point is 00:10:06 No, no, no. One. 100 percent. Yeah. But usually when Kurt's on the phone, it's always distorted. Three is the worst. Three is the best. That's how to sew in there.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Liam, I had a tasty treat that we must try at some point. Was it a crocodile? It is not, unfortunately. It's a slice of key lime pie that is dipped in chocolate and then frozen. Like fro... Oh. It is the tastiest thing I've had in a long time. They sell that.
Starting point is 00:10:35 And was it served chilled? Yes. Oh, that sounds good. It's a frozen treat. Is it on a stick? Yes. It was amazing. That's really good, actually.
Starting point is 00:10:43 And the mom of Pizza Pasta Force says she will make it for us. Great. When they come back to Montreal. Because I was staying with Pizza Pasta Force at their condo before. Of course, of course. And we took the long, are we there yet, style drive. The scenic route. It's about three hours to get from there to the keys.
Starting point is 00:11:02 And you got a drive on the true lies highways to get there. Something about that drive just makes the hardcoreist gangsta into a soft family man. It does, doesn't it? I don't know what it is. Yeah. So there was that. That was really fun. We went on a gator farm.
Starting point is 00:11:18 I got him to go on the airboat. It was fucking sick. I got to watch a Keith David style man grapple a gator and just basically beat the shit out of him in front of us. It's fucking awesome. That sounds good. I got to hold an alligator and I wanted it more than I've wanted anything. Did you beat him up before he turns into a human killing adult?
Starting point is 00:11:39 So did he call it Made Marion? He called it Little Rog. Rog. That's what his name was. Little Rog. It was really cool. And of course he says the thing that dashes your hopes is like everyone in Florida at some point says let's think about getting an alligator.
Starting point is 00:11:57 That's correct. Don't do this because half the alligators in the Everglades are pet alligators that they've then thrown back into the Everglades. Is it that bad? We also have a python problem where several people all bought pythons realize they didn't want them and all whip them back into the Everglades and now they're eating everything. So once a month and I shit you not there's a whacking day. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:12:30 You can get up to $5,000 for whacking these pythons to death. I can't believe how stupid that is. And that's just to control the population. You have to do it with a mean stick though. You can't shoot. That doesn't even get rid of them all. You have to do it with an air horn and a 20 gallon hat. Come on down to Florida.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Get your fucking snakes everywhere. You're getting ready for a whacking day. Get your crocodile and alligator born and going. What's whacking day? Anyway, I was blown away. And then the guy who gives you the money is like, I guarantee. We were all in a little stadium where you're watching this guy rustle the gator and talk about it and go, so then we have people come down and then we kind of hit the pythons and
Starting point is 00:13:07 you get money. It's just to control their population. I stood up in my seat and went, you have a whacking day. And he goes, sir, you are not the first person to have exclaimed that. And I was like, that's sick. That's crazy. So yeah. You know who else had a whacking day?
Starting point is 00:13:25 Christians back in the fucking Irish. Back in the Roman Empire. Yeah, they did. Yeah. So that was a really, really good time. I have a video of all the crazy American food I saw. I was telling Liam about one, which is a sausage, a breakfast sausage on a stick. And you buy it in stores and it comes wrapped in a pogo like batter.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Except it's not pogo batter. It's blueberry pancake batter. To our American and other viewers, that's a corn dog. It's not. No. No, I mean a pogo is basically a corn dog. Oh, that's what you mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Because they don't know what a pogo is. It is a corn dog like structure replaced entirely with breakfast. So I really wanted that real, real bad. They didn't, I couldn't buy it though. They turned you down at the door. I had some time to read some comics. I blew through the first couple issues of Street Fighter Unlimited, um, which is the continuation of the storyline from 15 years ago.
Starting point is 00:14:21 At a certain point, I just can't keep reading the same story. Because it's the same story. It's about Ryu dealing with the Sasseri No Hado. Still. Yep. But what if it consumes him? I'm done, man. But I want to know.
Starting point is 00:14:35 You know what? He wants to know, can I use it to defeat Akuma? He talks to Sagat again about it and has another play, a little tickle fight. With Sagat. And Sagat goes, I'm the best ever and I don't even need to beat you because I know I am. Because remember that training I got from Dalsam eight years ago? I do. In real time?
Starting point is 00:14:55 Because that's when that storyline happened? That's still a thing. The problem is that I keep wanting to read it because it goes deep into Gil's organization and how it works and how he got the leadership. So there's something in there. There is. The Illubinati origins are the interesting part. The other bit of storyline that's actually really interesting is that
Starting point is 00:15:14 for all intents and purposes, Bison is not there right now. He's just gone and no one's really talking about it. But Vega runs the remnants of Shadowloo, but he runs it wearing Bison's clothes. Oh, cool. And sits behind his desk. And that's kind of awesome. That's kind of neat. Is it awesome?
Starting point is 00:15:33 Well, is it awesome? I have to see it. I mean, it doesn't sound awesome. It sounds interesting, but it also sounds like he would never wear that like garish military clothing. He only seems to wear it behind the desk. And just wears the cape over his normal clothes. Is it like a joke?
Starting point is 00:15:47 Does he play it like a joke or is he serious? It seems a little out of character. It seems like he's role playing. And when he throws it off, he's just Vega. That's pretty funny. And there's that stuff. There is a little neat backup mini story of Hagar in the committee of Metro City, Griskoin, I need results and banging his fist.
Starting point is 00:16:06 And he's like, I'm tired of this bureaucratic shit and goes to his office and Alex is sitting there. And Alex is like, hey, man. And Hagar just goes, ah, and starts fighting him insane. He's a member of the Mad Gear. And it's, of course, the thing of just talk. Yeah. Yeah. He does look like one if you were to see.
Starting point is 00:16:25 He does look like one. But just talk. I do enjoy that in Hagar's office. There's three pictures above his desk. One of him, Cody and Guy. Then one of him, Mackie and Carlos. And then one of him, Dean and Lucia. And someone's foot is in the way of where Guy would be seen.
Starting point is 00:16:43 So it's just the three years time. And then he spinning pile drives Alex almost to death. And Alex gets up and goes, whoopsie. And it says the end. And I'm like, yep, that's a street fighter comic backup story. And I did read the first issue of Street Fighter Cross G.I. Joe, which is awful from every respect. Great.
Starting point is 00:17:03 And which side will I choose? Terrible art. It's just a goofy tournament. Hakan beats Roadblock. As he would. Sea Viper gets killed by Snake Eyes. No. Well, knocked out by Snake Eyes.
Starting point is 00:17:21 And Rufus beats another G.I. Joe. It's just a silly tournament. And Destro and Bison are just watching it going. They both jerking each other off. It looked like it. Yeah. Baroness. No, Baroness gets beaten by Rufus.
Starting point is 00:17:37 That's a matchup. That's the matchup everyone wanted to know. I really did not enjoy it. I also had time to watch two movies. The Revenant, finally. Excellent, as you probably all know. Actually, I think Tom Hardy was a much better role and a better actor than Leonardo Caprio.
Starting point is 00:17:54 His role actually Leonardo Caprio spends about 45 minutes of the movie being unconscious and not really doing anything, which was kind of surprising. But he ate that liver, though. And he won that Oscar, though. He crawled inside a horse. He got ravaged by that bear. I actually think Tom Hardy kind of was the standout of it.
Starting point is 00:18:13 He actually played a really fun Tarantino-esque villain. Oscar doesn't think so. He doesn't think so. I also saw The Witch, which is a horror movie. My girlfriend really wants to see it, but I'm too fucking scared. It is a slow, burning, not horror movie until the last scene. Is it scary?
Starting point is 00:18:31 Then it becomes, yes. Fuck, well. All right, just sit right next to the door. And have one foot ready to go. Just sit outside the door and listen. It was very, very slow. And it's a period piece. And everyone from Game of Thrones is in this movie.
Starting point is 00:18:47 I think it's... What's that banner group? Those banner guys are just walking around. I think he worked for the Bolton's or something. He's in it, plus Lisa Aron, the crazy Aron. The Lord of the Vale, the woman with the beard. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. She plays the crazy wife.
Starting point is 00:19:03 So it's very, very Lord of the Rings. Very, very Game of Thrones-esque. I still enjoyed it, but it was not... I saw so many people walk out, mostly teenagers, because where's The Witch? The Witch showed up in the last scene. So then things happen. Up until that, it's just...
Starting point is 00:19:21 You just have to kind of get into it. But it was still very good, but it's not for everyone. Is it like a period piece, paranormal activity? No. Okay. It's not... Well, it's not Handicam. I tried.
Starting point is 00:19:32 I tried. It's not really... I fooled around in MKX, played Alien a little bit. It's actually quite more enjoyable than I thought the Alien was. Triborg, heads and shoulders above everyone. Leatherface is nothing. Like, even more of a nothing than Jason, because I don't even get the giddy thrill of being Jason.
Starting point is 00:19:51 That I don't get by being Leatherface. I beat layers of fear on stream. I saw... Sorry, I saw that Alien has some ridiculous combos. Yeah, and Tarkot and I think... Did you like put in a... Just training mode. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:10 It can really even fight AI. And I beat layers of fear on my stream the other night. That game still, up until the last part, was still innovative scares every time. Yeah. Did a really, really good job, was really enjoying it. And then the last thing is it plops you into a giant room with tons of bullshit around,
Starting point is 00:20:30 and it makes you go on a fetch quest, Pixel Hunt. And if you... Awesome. Remember, we got that one place where we got stuck... Oh yeah, we got stuck hard. We got that one place that was stuck in our Shitstorm video. We got stuck so bad I had to cut out like 30 minutes of footage. And then the last thing that you do in that game
Starting point is 00:20:47 is go on this boring Pixel Hunt, which was not fun. And it was one of those great moments on stream where you're like, oh, I'm bad, I'm doing everything wrong, and everyone's yelling at me in the chat. But... And then I looked at the chat and everyone goes, no, I give up too. I don't know what you're supposed to do.
Starting point is 00:21:00 It's somewhere, I guess. Try here, try there, and we finally kind of did it. But I still enjoyed the game. It's still at a decent price and only takes about three hours to beat, but that's about it. So yeah, packed week, but I'll have a video, Mattline Miami, Florida Man Adventures. Oh, how many people did you kill?
Starting point is 00:21:20 In what? Mattline Miami. Mattline Miami. Zero. Oh. Oh, well... The name implies kills, I guess. Sick kills.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Well, it's because I was in Florida and I went to Miami. You have no shortage of ridiculously sick music to choose. So there's that. Yeah, that's... There's that. It's a plus. As you talk about Key Lime Pie, I'll just... I'll take that, because I had some Key Lime Pie.
Starting point is 00:21:41 In addition to a lot of other food, my first time at Pied-Cochon. Oh, you went down, huh? Dude. Now, Pied-Cochon, if you're not from Montreal, is considered the number one restaurant in town. And it's... That means pigs feet, to you known French speakers.
Starting point is 00:21:57 And it's the biggest fucking deal ever, whenever it comes to eating whatever. Animals. You know. Yeah, eating, eating. I want to have food that was alive and is no longer. So the one thing that has definitely cemented itself to is... Because I've tried a lot of places around town that are ranked and whatnot. And they all have the same thing in common, where they go for a cafeteria style,
Starting point is 00:22:21 loud, brash environment. No one does that like ambiance with the candle and the silence. Did you go to Au Noir? No, but that's not on the list. Fuck Au Noir. Also because it's closed now. They're never happening again, yeah. Too easy to shit in the food at Au Noir.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Yeah. And since your waiters are blind, it might have happened by accident. You gotta wonder if you turned some lights on, if anyone would notice, because you know, they wouldn't, because they're blind, so they wouldn't notice. But the patrons would notice. I feel like you'd be able to feel the lights. I don't think it works that way. But anyway, no, the Pied-Cachaud is, yeah, it's, here's what it is.
Starting point is 00:23:01 So what'd you add, man? I had the fucking, what was it? It was like a foie gras plus pig cutlet tart. Foie gras. With all kinds of onion, sauce, gravy things in it. And it was solid, really good, right? And then a giant roast with more foie gras on it. Because that seems to be their specialty, is pigs.
Starting point is 00:23:26 Foie gras. Foie gras. And it was the actual Pied-Cachaud after the name, you know, to see what that was about. Plus some little, like, kind of side little sushi things that they prepared. And it was the best 7.9 I've ever had. So here's the thing. Nice. Pied-Cachaud, really expensive, as you know, that's the other thing it's known for being.
Starting point is 00:23:52 But the food is not going to blow your mind. It's going to be solid. And probably there's something better than what I had on the menu, you know? It's a good-ass restaurant masquerading as a high-class fancy-ass super restaurant. Absolutely. Absolutely. You ever go down a Barbie barn in the West Island for ribs? Yeah, I know the Barbie barn.
Starting point is 00:24:13 That shit, that place does not paint itself as high-class, but fuck off. But that's what I'm saying, is because I think about it, and maybe it could just be the fact that it's roast, right? Maybe. But the fact that, like, I enjoyed myself way more down at Blackstrap Barbecue. I enjoyed myself way more at, like, La Louisiane. Well, like you said yourself, you may not have gotten the best item on the menu, whereas at Blackstrap, I'd be willing to bet you got the best item on the menu.
Starting point is 00:24:40 Oh yeah, for sure. But I did, we did have a nice, long conversation with the waitress who was recommending things and, like, took our initial thing and said, you guys seem like you want to try a variety of things, so go for this instead and whatnot, and went for what she considered her favorite item on the menu, which we took the recommendation of. And went, like, yeah, that's the best 7.9. Sure, okay now. It's like how everyone goes on and on and on about Schwartz.
Starting point is 00:25:03 Yeah. Like, Schwartz is good, but it's not the best one. I've gotten sick twice at Schwartz. The best smoked meat in town is like five or six blocks east of, like, Atwater Market, in this fucking dingy butcher shop that doesn't do anything but sell you slabs. Sure, but I haven't tried that. To me, Schwartz is a 9. Like, that's fantastic.
Starting point is 00:25:29 And that's a solid. And the only 10 in life is Black Hole Barbecue. Yeah, whatever. No, like Yakitiku Black Hole. I told you about this last year, Willie. We didn't go again this year to Florida. We'd go last year. I went to a barbecue place in Florida called The Hog.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that had the most unique barbecue where everything was very, had a weird dry rub on it. Yes. And I couldn't get enough of it. I was like, I think, to me, it rivaled the type of stuff you did. I'm so hungry now. I'm black straw. I did go to the ice house.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Can we take a break for food? I did go to the ice house. Let's take a break for meat. And the ice house, if you guys recall, was what Matt was talking about a couple months ago, where it's a bar where they just serve you meat in a trough, basically. Yeah. And pour it on the ground. Well, no, they put a piece of brown paper on your table.
Starting point is 00:26:16 Yeah. I've been wanting to go there for a while. And throw the meat on it. Yeah. And it was those. Where is that again? Because I keep forgetting. That's like one block to my place.
Starting point is 00:26:23 Yeah, it should go sometime. I'd like to. It's around. But ultimately, yeah. Pierre Couchard way overrated. That's my results. Because I've heard of it. I've never gone.
Starting point is 00:26:35 But I guess I won't. And also way easier to make it a reservation than I thought. I mean, it's so expensive, only not everyone's going to be going there. Exactly. To just call them and go, hey, do you got spot for two? Yeah, exactly. Like it's not. I wouldn't imagine many people spend their Friday night there or something like that.
Starting point is 00:26:52 You know what I mean? What does sound more interesting is their Cabana Cirque, which is their like expansion team. Oh, cool. That could be interesting. Where it's Gourmet Cabana Cirque. That's neat. For those who don't know, that's a sugar shack where it's a Quebec specialty.
Starting point is 00:27:07 And we melt maple syrup over ice and eat it with a stick. Yeah. And you put maple on everything else. But then you eat it like a classic, like bacon and eggs, like giant everything breakfast. But you just throw maple syrup on fucking all of it. You also have to traditionally take the horse ride around behind the gassy horse. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:26 That's going to like. Because it's been eating all the toffee. Blast in your face the whole time. So that's what's up. Kids keep feeding it the maple. Bad idea. You said key lime pie, but you actually didn't eat it. You're just using that as a jumping off point.
Starting point is 00:27:38 No, I did. I had a key. We had a dessert because I went for the whole thing. Their key lime pie was good. It was all right. It was solid. And then it was never a huge fan. But now I'm like getting a taste of it.
Starting point is 00:27:46 No. The only thing that was special about this was like the crust was instead of like the normal flaky key lime crust, you got like a chocolate kind of crust. Which is like, oh, that's some innovation right there. That's cool. Girlfriend had a like just a creme brulee type thing. That's not quite creme brulee. But it might as well be.
Starting point is 00:28:05 And, you know, it was sugary and good. It's creme brulee-like. Yeah, they burn it. Just, it made me remember when I was like 14 years old, my cousin who lives next door to my dad's place, he was going to a cooking school and he was struggling with creme brulees. He was struggling really hard with it. Leaving it or making it? Making it.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Because it's hard to make them. Use a blow torch. And we spent like a week just making creme brulees. Just didn't go well. That's a good week. Weekend creme brulee. No, I said there was so much. Oh man, what a cock up.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Failed creme brulees. We barely got any good creme brulees. You barely made bail. Like, failed creme brulee is still kind of like sugary. Yeah. You know. But like that was it, right? A ton of failed creme brulees all over the place.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Like they're on the floor like rolled out. Like Frankenstein's lab, you know. No, like rolled out. Like honest, it's not that funny a story, but like it just, it's a good memory. It reminds you of that time you made creme brulees for a whole week. I played a bunch of Runner 2 on the PS4 after figuring out how to purchase it. Did you ever message them about that? I didn't bother.
Starting point is 00:29:15 I didn't bother. No, not for Sony's sake, for their sake. Yeah, no, I, you know. But there's a weird ass thing on PSN when you go to look up Runner and you put in the word and then you see the list and it shows up and you click on it. And it takes you to the rent it now or get it free with PS Live. And I'm like, I just want to buy it. PS Plus, I think you mean to say.
Starting point is 00:29:41 No, I mean PS Live. I'm already a PS Plus member. Okay. So it's a streaming service only option. I mean PlayStation Now. He means PlayStation Now. Sorry, sorry. Okay, sorry.
Starting point is 00:29:51 PS Now, excuse me. The streaming option. Yeah. And the rental thing. And I'm like, well, how do I just buy it? I don't want either of these things. And then I'm like going to related items and there's nothing there. And I'm like, what?
Starting point is 00:30:02 And then I had to, I went on the website and then was looking up on the shop there. And then I saw, no, they have it there for sale normally. And I was like, okay. So for some reason, when you do the search, you only get listed to the rental option on the actual console. But if you go on the computer, you see both there and it's fine. So I was confused by that. But anyway, I played the game.
Starting point is 00:30:22 Really like what they did with the music. That's part, that's that's really cool. The 3D. Did you play the first one? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. The 3D is. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:30:30 It's all right, but it's not as stylish as it should be. It's really actually a fine distracting. I played Runner 2 like when I originally released and it didn't need it. It doesn't need it. That's, that's true. And I, and I, and I wish that like, I don't mind the 3D being used, but I wish the lighting wasn't just like rounded and default, you know. It's like, let's make Pac-Man, but in Unreal 4.
Starting point is 00:30:52 I recently played the, the, what's it called, the bit saga or whatever. Is it just called the bit trip saga? Bit trip saga. Bit trip saga. Yeah. The, the big collection. Yeah. Those games aged really poorly. Runner is still good.
Starting point is 00:31:04 Runner is the best. Runner is the best one. Yeah. But like, I remembered liking like flux and stuff and I couldn't. I never got it to deal with those. Bit trip beat, I still dig for its basicness. Beats, all right. I wish you could play beat without motion controls.
Starting point is 00:31:18 Sure. Yes. Agreed. 100%. But you can, isn't it on the 3DS? I haven't played that version. All of it's, I think it's there. But um. Not sure. But yeah, as far as Runner 2 goes, and like oozing with style in a lot, in the,
Starting point is 00:31:30 not in gameplay, that is. Yeah. In their, their cutscenes and then their map and stuff. Yeah. But it has the same problem I had with the first one where I'm just like on a, and I level where it's like musically, I, I, I, I, there's breaks in the music where there doesn't need to be. And there's moments where it's like, you could have made this one seamless experience
Starting point is 00:31:49 where the beat just keeps going. And they just drop. It drives me crazy. Exactly. And then there's moments of per, of progressive music used in gameplay. And then it's like, you can apply that philosophy elsewhere. You can make it so that like the awesome theme that plays at the end of every level would also reflect your score.
Starting point is 00:32:05 And you can do a little, little things to just bring this whole concept 100%. So it's like, I enjoy it, but I keep getting plagued down with, fuck, I, I would do it better. It's not as good as it could be. It's not as good as my brain is telling me it should be. You know? I hear ya. Um, the, but there is a, a nice like, a series of unlockables.
Starting point is 00:32:23 And I do enjoy the whole treasure chest out elements that they have in and getting the friends. Did you buy the best friend pack? I did not. Okay. You can get them by just playing. It seems. Oh, can you?
Starting point is 00:32:32 Maybe I'm mistaken then. I never, I didn't like either. I had barely played runner two very much. So there is one thing that's really cool is the checkpoints midway through the level where you just run through it and it like, it saves you there. If you die, you start back up. I'm sorry. Is this game just called runner two?
Starting point is 00:32:48 Adventure is rhythm alien. Legend of rhythm alien. So it's bit trip runner two? Yes. But it's just called runner two adventure. It's bit trip runner two, but they're just pushing it as runner two. That's weird because I've been confused. Like, are you guys talking about bit trip?
Starting point is 00:33:02 I think they wanted to drop bit trip because it has no brand value. It seems like they're just what they wanted to just. So they took the best mini game that they had. And pushed it. Yeah. Super bizarre. That makes sense actually. But the checkpoint system is, is, is cool because it's like, yeah, you, you run and
Starting point is 00:33:17 past it the little rope and then you save where you are. But you can also choose to jump over it. And it's like, oh, you're a big dick G now. Be tough. Be tough. So then it's like, yeah. It's like breaking the checkpoints in Shovel Knight. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Exactly. You don't get them if you jump over it. And it's like, all right, challenge mode on. Let's go. You know, and you can just do the endurance. So I enjoy that kind of stuff. That was cool. Finally, you know, got to sit and play a whole bunch of Street Fighter 5.
Starting point is 00:33:45 What can I say? Just learning the process. It's pretty bad, right? Yeah, terrible. Awful game. Awful game. Mike Zero Dude wanted to do some sets. We just, so I did some sets with that.
Starting point is 00:33:54 The actual battle lounge system is way less convoluted than I thought it was initially. Yeah, no, it's very simple. You just invite people, right? Yep. Yeah. Unfortunately, all those people are playing Naruto. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Is it like, is it like Marvel 3's? Not yet. Not yet? That's coming later. Okay. But that Marvel 3 setup. And this actually, no, the Skull Girls. It's coming in the March patch.
Starting point is 00:34:16 Yeah. The Skull Girls 1 is the best. But yeah, Street Fighter 5. More Gravity Rush. More Gravity Falls. Good show. Keep going there. Better Call Saul.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Still amazing. Amazing. I can't recommend it enough. Season 1 or Season 2? Well, there's only one season. No, there's two seasons. Oh yeah? Shit, my mistake.
Starting point is 00:34:39 It's been going on for a little while now. Okay. Well, I'm in the middle of Season 1. Okay, this one. And it's such a fucking great show to watch. I'm really excited to see it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't recommend it enough, man.
Starting point is 00:34:51 I tried out the new show that Louis C.K. has been pushing on his emails. He's been working on something called Horus and Pete. Yeah, I saw the ads for it. And it's interesting because he's doing it in the same format as his stand-ups, where if you're on the Louis C.K. mailing list, he's like, hey, my stand-up's out. It's five bucks. Go check it out.
Starting point is 00:35:10 And so now you try. It's basically him and, what's his name? Zora Man. Steve Buscemi are doing a show where they... Yes. Imagine if Cheers was not a comedy at all. Oh, God. That's the worst.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Yeah. And it was actually just a... Norm. You're in the bar watching... And there's no jokes? Watching the dregs. No jokes. It's not a comedy.
Starting point is 00:35:36 So it's like a nothing or a drama? It's a drama. Okay. You know? But I barely would use that term. It almost runs like a stage play. Norm, why are you here every day? I have nowhere else to go.
Starting point is 00:35:48 I'm going to shoot everyone at the post office. Yeah, you tell them, Cliff. Yeah. And it was... I enjoyed it. You pay five bucks for the first one, then you have to buy the episodes individually. So that's a bit of a weird thing, though he didn't explain.
Starting point is 00:36:06 What is this on? This is on Louis C.K.'s website. Oh. And it's basically... Yeah, it's like he's doing... Because he has a whole thing going where it's like if you... Instead of using a middleman service like HBO or Netflix or even Comedy Central or whatever,
Starting point is 00:36:22 it's like, here's my website. Here's my special. Go download it here. And it's just... You get the video. And you know what the thing about Louis C.K.'s website is? It works. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:30 And that's all there is to it. Who's doesn't work? Red Letter Media's. Oh, no. I bought Space Cop and the download was so slow that I had to go and acquire Space Cop. Shit. That's balls.
Starting point is 00:36:41 Like, fuck off. Yeah, and basically he's selling every episode individually. And he's like, it's really expensive to film. So sorry that this is the way it's set up, but that's what he's doing for now. I kind of recommend it if you're okay with the fact that it's not funny. Is it something like if you like Louis C.K.,
Starting point is 00:37:01 but don't necessarily want to see him be funny? You know what I bet it is? Yeah. Hey, you know those miserable parts of Louis? The parts of Louis that just make you want to... The parts that make it hard to watch? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:12 If you want to show that's nothing but that. Yes. Yes. Okay, well, there you go. If you take all of that and the stuff in Louis that's like, man, the good old days weren't so great, and we can kind of laugh at that, but it's an uncomfortable laughter,
Starting point is 00:37:27 then check out Horace and Pete. Otherwise, steer clear. And that's right up your alley. You love human misery. On the back of the box, well, he says I kind of recommend it. Maybe with like eight asterisks. I'll wait for you.
Starting point is 00:37:40 A glowing maybe. Yeah. And after seeing bits and pieces over the years, broken up and whatnot, I finally just sat down and fucking watched Scarface beginning to end. Wow. Hey, I have a game for you to play with me soon.
Starting point is 00:37:53 Fantastic. Man, is that not just the weirdest? Yeah. Like, you have a game for me to play? Yeah. Did you check the credits, fucker? Really? Anyway.
Starting point is 00:38:04 You're going to play it. Oh, I have a version of it you haven't played. Maybe. Anyway. Are you sure about that? Okay. Never mind. Isn't that the weirdest, Willie?
Starting point is 00:38:15 Just like you're just waiting for all the classic lines and moments. It's the straight. Because how did you work on a Scarface game and not see the movie? Yeah. Well, like, no, it had been, I'd seen it in, again, bits and pieces
Starting point is 00:38:28 over the years and broken up ways. And it's impossible to not, you know, fucking get all of it. If not through just hip-hop albums. Yeah. And references and people's names and shit. So, yeah. Or if you have any Italian guy friends
Starting point is 00:38:41 and you go inside their apartments and they're wall-to-wall plastered with Scarface posters. Exactly. Is that accurate? Yes. It's hyper-accurate. That or like, you know, like Riley from the Boondocks and shit, you know?
Starting point is 00:38:53 I was hanging out with David, you know, like, you know, you had one before, right? And I went like, oh, yeah, we're talking about Scarface. And I was like, yeah, that's like all those stereotypical like Italian guys. I mean, you must have known a couple that always have Scarface posters. He's like, I have two framed Scarface posters in my place.
Starting point is 00:39:09 There you go, man. It's the pasta force. That's awesome. Dude, like 40% of the movie, you already know line by line. Yeah, it's weird. Just because of all those quotes. Literally from fucking swollen members, tracks, references coming back on me.
Starting point is 00:39:22 I was going to say, in the heyday of soundboard calls on the internet, I listened to a bunch of Al Pacino ones and Scarface, like half of Scarface's script is in those. That being said, like, I think my favorite part of the movie isn't like famously like quoted or anything. It's when he pops the guy in the car after the slow car chase. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That bit is the fucking best.
Starting point is 00:39:45 It's real, man. It's still a great ass movie. Yeah. But like the fact that everyone idolizes Tony Montana is a little worrying is the fucked up part when you really go back and watch and see how disturbed this character is. Well, he was a go getter.
Starting point is 00:39:59 Yeah. And then, you know, he was loyal to the game, no matter what anyone said. That's not true at all. And it was just like, like, that's a complete lie. He was the Nobunaga of America. And it's just this whole, this whole like... Tons of ambition.
Starting point is 00:40:11 The fantasy character that is represented. Well, it's like Che Guevara, like... Almost, almost, you know. And everyone like sort of idolizes this man that is like, he's the myth. He's a psycho. It's a fucking psycho, he's insane. He was loyal to the game right up until the point
Starting point is 00:40:25 where he wasn't. No, he was loyal to the game until the game turned on him. And then when the game turned on him... Turned on the game first. And then he turned on everything that wasn't the game to. Then really, do you remember the setup for the game based on Scarface then? Scarface lives.
Starting point is 00:40:40 That's it. That's the whole set of the premise. There's, yeah. And there's... Well, anyway, we'll talk about it another time. Remember that time he got hard murdered? Yeah, no, he was fine. No.
Starting point is 00:40:51 The cocaine. The good premise. He slept it off. It was the yeyo. Don't worry about it. It was the yeyo. Tony Yeyo came back in time. And saved them through.
Starting point is 00:41:00 And then replaced him with the rapper Scarface. That's right. Scarface. And then you go. Yeah, if you recall, his original name. I got a face that looks like a Nissan. Yeah, yeah. And it's still fun to...
Starting point is 00:41:15 It's definitely fun to quote the lines, too, and shit. But it's just disturbing to think how many people fucking look back and go, yeah, yeah. And I'm just like, what the... Dude, dude. Do you see the same thing happen with Walter White? Like people going like, Walter White was a hero.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Like, are you nuts? Are you crazy? Did we watch the same show? Did we watch the same show? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right, right. As Liam's so eloquent. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:39 No, because it's whenever you... Again, you're in the game and you do your hustle. Doesn't matter how... You're a hero. You're a hero. Exactly. You played your cards. You did it my way, as Frank would say.
Starting point is 00:41:51 And that's all they respect, you know? All you have to do, break the law, don't snitch. Keep breaking the law. Get money, get money. And then do snitch and betray everyone after 10 years. Just be consistent. And you're an icon. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:42:03 How do you talk about American gangster? Like fucking... Well, you know. It's like in the end, let's not pay too much attention to the end and last five seconds of the movie where he snitched out everybody. And then he snitched on them all. And then he walked out and looked outside
Starting point is 00:42:17 and was like, I'm a free man. And then the credits were... I take that deal. I take that deal. Nobody remembers that shit. I would snitch on you all in a second. You know? Oh, fuck.
Starting point is 00:42:26 It would take no forethought. Yeah, well. The problem is if you snitch on us... Enjoy the glass of your food tonight. I will. If you snitch on us, we're going to jail for maybe about two or three months. If we snitch on you, you're in jail
Starting point is 00:42:36 for the rest of your life. So I got to snitch on you first and then make sure you die in jail. Yeah, that would be the way. A sobering thought. There you go. There you go. You can't convict a man in his podcast
Starting point is 00:42:49 crew of the same crime. It's true. Yeah. Double jeopardy. Forget the glass. Double jeopardy. Get the rice in. The rice in.
Starting point is 00:42:56 Yeah, exactly. Get the rice in. What a hero. I'm glad your brain went there because that's the ultimate, like, fuck that, like mentality. Oh, man. Hey, it looks like the sponsors had a week.
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Starting point is 00:45:41 I had a week. Yeah, what's your week? I played a miserably huge amount of Common Rider Bachelorette War Genesis. Why did you determine that as miserable? I played so much. Is it just the amount or was it miserable? The amount.
Starting point is 00:45:54 No, no, I had a great time. The volume was disgusting. You just got up at some point and you're like, man, I wasted multiple days. I need to stop now. Now you know all the final forms without knowing how the characters got there. Dude, there's so many characters.
Starting point is 00:46:06 I don't. All of them. Like there are too many characters. I think I've only fully covered like. What's this for? PS3, PS4, and Vita. I think I've only covered like 10 to 15 characters out of the 40 something cast.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Okay. There's too much. I want to know Rider Man's story, though. He's a Rider Man. I want to know. He's the only one with a face that's exposed. Is there Rider Rider? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Not that I know of. Really? I don't think there's a Rider Rider. Is there a Common Common? He rides the other riders. No. There is. There is.
Starting point is 00:46:39 There is. What's his name, Common? Panty, Panty, Common. What's his name? Oh, Panty, Common. With that movie? Yeah. But that's Keco-Caman.
Starting point is 00:46:47 Keco-Caman, Keco-Caman. But that's not like Common Rider. No, it's not. Yeah. Bukake Rider. Game's super good. I really like it. That's nothing exciting there,
Starting point is 00:46:55 but I'm having a really good time with that game. I played the Division for like 15 hours. Yeah, you did. That was the Division, man. It's fucking boring. Oh, wow. It's like the core gameplay loop is super fun. And you spend, I want to say,
Starting point is 00:47:13 two-fifths of the time walking down roads, going to the next core gameplay loop section. So did you play it? So I also bought the Division, and I loaded it up, and you play was like, nah. You can't play the Division. Yeah, I heard some people can't even get it to me. So when I, and I, I-
Starting point is 00:47:34 Are you playing this on PC? Yeah, of course. And I got a replay. I want to quote you like a year ago to Woolly, why would you ever buy a Ubisoft game on PC? You fucking barked, you dogged out. And I thought maybe at this point that it'd be fine. It'd be fine.
Starting point is 00:47:50 And I got my refund on Steam, and I downloaded you play by itself. So I want to see turning on you play hardlocks my PC to the point where I have to reset it. Great, perfect. Just a little tag here. I had, I got a Steam code for, I got a code, excuse me, for Rainbow Six Siege.
Starting point is 00:48:12 And it was like, oh yeah, okay, I want to try that out. And pop the code into Steam, and it was like, no, this is not a Steam code. And I was like, is this, and then I immediately, my soul left my body, and I was like, I have no interest anymore. It's mind blowing how bad you play is. On PC.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Yeah, on PC. On consoles, it's like, it only like enhances the experience, but like swoops in- Except for in Primal when it rips you out. What does it do in Primal? Well, just you're in the middle. No, it doesn't do anything. It just appears, and that angers Willy so much.
Starting point is 00:48:43 If you go watch the video, it happens twice where we're playing the middle of it, and you're getting into that fucking Ooga Booga mode. And you're like, yeah. And then this fucking smooth assed you play, sign in points, whatever, unlock. I'm like, get that out of my immersion. Yeah, no, I don't want to see that shit.
Starting point is 00:48:59 Get those fonts off the screen. Because we found the Blood Dragon, and it appears. It, it, it, cool. I didn't know that. The Blood Dragon is an actual enemy. It's just a little like hated skeleton that's in a cave. And you get an achievement for it. You get a regular PSN achievement,
Starting point is 00:49:13 and then a Uplay achievement appears. And Willy tossed my console out the window. You owe me a new console. That fuck. Go on. That shit swooped in to take games for Windows Live spot as like the worst fucking piece of shit experience ruining like second software that you need.
Starting point is 00:49:29 It's unbelievable. Uh, in the near future, I'm going to be getting a new PC, and maybe it'll work on that. So what did you think of the game? I don't know. I never got to play it. I never even got to use it. Oh, you never even bought it on PS4 or anything?
Starting point is 00:49:42 No, I'm not going to play it on PS4 when I could play it on PC. But you can't. But you can't. Then I'm not going to play it. Great. Fine. That's a good choice, too.
Starting point is 00:49:49 I'd rather it not existed at all. I could run it at fucking max settings, and it would look really nice and run really well. But you can't. But I can't. So instead, let's go buy the version that's markedly worse. Yeah. So anyway, break it down.
Starting point is 00:50:02 So it's not that much worse, honestly. There's a difference between 60 and 30. No, but it's resolution and frame rate, but it runs at rock solid 30 on PS4, so it's fine. Like I want to play it at 60. OK. How's the story, Drew? Boring.
Starting point is 00:50:15 OK. I didn't know there was a story. The story's boring. The core gameplay loop is fun. The combat is really enjoyable, playing with other people. Matchmaking. Hey, Destiny. Matchmaking.
Starting point is 00:50:29 Yeah. What fucking matchmaking in your game? It works. The game's enjoyable when you're shooting and you're actually playing it. But you are constantly, constantly just running down roads, just walking down roads. It's a section of New York, right?
Starting point is 00:50:48 Yeah. An area of Manhattan. And it's recreated, I think, somewhat accurately. Probably not completely. But you are constantly just going from point to point. And guess what? Manhattan is roads. It's straight roads.
Starting point is 00:51:02 At least in Destiny, the art's really nice and you're swooping around in your whatever it's called. And that's kind of satisfying in a way. But you didn't have the like, oh look, it's the Brownstones. I know that neighborhood. No, it's boring. It's winter everywhere in Destiny Land, in Division Land.
Starting point is 00:51:19 And it's just really, really bland. And it's a shame because the gameplay's really fun. And some of the dialogue's pretty well-written. But it's just boring, I find. And it's by no means a bad game. It's just really super bland. I could recommend this to the person who enjoys. Who digs that style.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Well, to someone who likes Call of Duty or to someone who likes Watch Dogs or like Tom Clancy? No? Yeah. No, it is Tom Clancy. It's the main stream. No, there's no such thing. Yeah, but there's always a feel of not too much personality.
Starting point is 00:51:52 No, it's a zombie Tom Clancy and that dead man Tom Clancy has no say on this product. Yeah, what I mean more is that like the Tom Clancy things grow for less personality, more just like military slash. And in the general ones. You know, yeah. I guess you can say this is going to be a divisive game, the Division.
Starting point is 00:52:12 No, I think it's going to be pretty much universally planned as a good game. It's reviewing exceedingly well. It's a good game. I just think it's quite boring. Yeah, and a lot of that has to do with your personal taste on the setting. I think the core gameplay is like maybe just a little bit.
Starting point is 00:52:28 It's about the same as Destiny's in terms of quality in that it's really good. But when I look at the two and if I had to pick one to play because they are kind of similar in structure, I would pick Destiny every time because of the music and the art every time. Well, that's the other question here is like as far as, you know, we sometimes say this.
Starting point is 00:52:44 The arts a big part of it. Yeah, and the audience that it's for, how much do you enjoy just being a soldier? Not. Okay. Negative. Some people that's already. The character creator sucks, by the way.
Starting point is 00:52:57 There's like seven faces and that's it. No, but for some people just being a soldier is already a plus. Yeah, exactly. I can get behind the soldier thing. This is most of the games I play. I'm not a soldier. Yeah, but I've played it for 15 hours.
Starting point is 00:53:09 I'm probably going to pick it back up again, but it's just the feeling of just running down roads in Manhattan is so trite and boring. The fast travel system is good. You can fast travel to all the towers you found on the map and you can fast travel to any completed mission. And so those pepper around the map constantly,
Starting point is 00:53:27 but until then you're just running. There's no motorcycle. There's no accelerated. I don't know. There's a part of me that is like finds that appealing. Sure. And like it's the part of me that wants to wander around. Sure.
Starting point is 00:53:42 Are there walk-in talks? I think it must be only that. Well, they just they just hit you with like, Hey, we're radioing you right now. Okay. They don't force you to walk slower. Like you keep moving at normal speed, but you just hear like it's open world.
Starting point is 00:53:54 So like it's like any open world game, like Far Cry or maybe even Far Cry Primal in some way where you just hear people talking to you while you're walking around. Well, no, because that doesn't happen. Okay. Well, I haven't played it. So I just like the radio in on your bone magic or some shit.
Starting point is 00:54:10 Yeah. That's all. But like Far Cry 4 or something like no, like the walk-in talk thing of like slow down and listen to the story. No, it doesn't really happen outside of like the prologue bit that's not open world. It's good, but I just couldn't care less.
Starting point is 00:54:24 It's just the apocalypse not cutting it for you. It's like I walked up and I asked for a plate of open world and there it is. Enjoy. There's nothing. There's no cherry on top or anything. It's just there. It's, you know, kudos to it working, I guess on day two.
Starting point is 00:54:41 It doesn't work. I haven't had a single issue. So I don't know. And this is their first game on the on the We're referring to the Uplay thing, right? Yeah, the Uplay thing, of course. That sucks. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:50 First game on the snow drop engine. First game on snow drop. Looks good. There's only so much that graphics like that can do for me when the art is so boring. I hope the engine gets more play in the future. And I know Jim Sterling already did a video on this, but I wanted to call out the iconic division jacket.
Starting point is 00:55:06 I love it. Fuck you. Right alongside the iconic Aiden Pierce cap. Yeah. Fuck you guys. Like I know that's the jacket from the first trailer or whatever. They're doing it every time now. They're doing it every time.
Starting point is 00:55:16 Fuck you. That's right. In the game, I can't remember if it's a Uplay reward or like a pre-order DLC or whatever. There is a jacket, is the iconic division jacket. You know that jacket that you're aware of, Willie? You know the iconic division jacket? Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:55:31 It's the silhouette people can tell. It's a pretty regular ass leather jacket. Remember Aiden Pierce's iconic hat from Watch Dogs? Right. Yeah. With the little Watch Dogs logo on it? Yeah. You didn't even remember that was on the hat.
Starting point is 00:55:43 Yeah. Yeah. So that's that. That's all right. Fucking baseball cap. Yeah. No, I know. I saw some movies.
Starting point is 00:55:51 I saw Zootopia. It was really, really good. Everyone says it's the best. Animations like super top notch. It's just so weird to me because any time I hear about 3D animal movie, I just go whatever some DreamWorks piece of shit. It's not DreamWorks. I know.
Starting point is 00:56:03 And then I have to correct it on this. Don't write this one off. It's really good. It's annoying like as me hearing about it, like from the outside and not just seeing the trailer for myself and stuff. Sure, sure. Like it's also kind of like I hate that talking animals is also the subject matter. But if it's done right, then it's done right.
Starting point is 00:56:22 Well, it's like Robin Hood. Well, don't you like Fantastic Mr. Fox? That's one of the cool things about it is like I feel like Robin Hood. They have the same kind of silhouettes that old Disney anthropomorphic characters would have. Great, great, great. And it definitely echoes that kind of spirit, but it's a much more modern story.
Starting point is 00:56:37 Not that the movie is bad or anything because it's been reviewed very, very highly. It's really good. But I think the best thing to come out of Zootopia is just the little screenshot of Zootopia breaks Disney's best record for animated movie, like does much better than Frozen. Did it actually? Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:56:54 Then it just shows the Japanese girls from Cabin in the Woods going, the evil is defeated. Right. It's fucking solid. But just like in a world where Sharks Tail and Madagascar and Ice Age exist, it's just like you didn't like Shark Tail that was made for you. The fucking the well is poisoned. No, the B movie is worse than and.
Starting point is 00:57:14 Yeah, but that's your side. Apparently not if the money is that good. Anyway, don't write it off if you get a chance to go see it. It's worth seeing, so. Exactly. Pat's making a jack-off motion, like he's been looking at Officer Hopps or something. Oh, is that her name? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:30 You would know. Yeah, I saw the movie. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. What else did you see? I saw 10 Cloverfield. Dry. Is it Driver?
Starting point is 00:57:37 Lane, Lane, Lane. Yeah. Fast Lane. What a goddamn good movie. Oh, my God. It's like it's a suspense movie where this girl's caught in a place and it's not a nice place to be. And Mr. Goodman is like. I didn't know he was in it.
Starting point is 00:57:51 Yeah. So when he came up, I was like, oh, it's gonna be good. I love John Goodman. I love him. He's so good. He's so good. I thought he was dead. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:57 Yeah, he's. That's John Candy. Yeah, that's John Candy. Okay. Just making sure. I thought John Goodman was dead too. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:58:04 I wouldn't put a pastor. He will be soon. Okay. Yeah. It's really good. I don't want to say too much of anything about it because just like the first Cloverfield, it's like, if you spoil the thing, then that's it. But it's, I think it's got better writing than the first Cloverfield.
Starting point is 00:58:20 This is involved with Cloverfield? It's this 10 Cloverfield Lane. Yeah. Absolutely. Don't do this. Don't be that guy. Yeah. But it's really good.
Starting point is 00:58:29 And go see that movie as well. We'll do. Really good suspense movie. I want to. It's so stressful, that movie. I love it. Just to get this out so that it's because it's not on the docket in regards to movies and trailers and things.
Starting point is 00:58:45 Fuck the fact that you can't go into a movie and not know everything about it in advance. You're pissed about that Civil War trailer. But you know, I haven't seen it yet either. So don't, please don't say anything about it. Yeah. That's why I'm dancing is I'm just saying, like the fact that. I was worried you were going to bring it up or something. There's no reason for that.
Starting point is 00:59:05 Like I get it and I understand the world we live in today. It's just annoying to me. So there is a reason. Did you see it, Pat? Of course. Was it such a bad thing? No. Because I don't know what it is.
Starting point is 00:59:16 It's awesome. It's just annoying that I know now. It made me. And I'd rather not know. That I didn't know the moment it happened. It made me very happy. It's just annoying. I know.
Starting point is 00:59:25 I hope I can make it. I hope I can make it. That's it. I hope you can make it too, Lily. I think Liam might be. You know who shows up in Civil War. He's been known for months and months. I suspect it, but I don't want to see it before the war.
Starting point is 00:59:39 No, it has been known for months and months and months. No, no. Well, it's not narrowing down by having this discussion. I think I know exactly what it is, but I don't want to see it. Let's not. Keep it vague. I'm in the world that trailers are fair vague. The more we discuss this right now, the more narrow it's going to get.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Then why did you bring it up? Because I want to keep it as I want to keep it surface. Keep it surface. Don't bring it up. Bring it up. I thought we were going to talk about it on the podcast too. If someone's lucky enough to have not been spoiled, then good for you. It's a trick.
Starting point is 01:00:09 I didn't. Oh, my God. This is absurd. I don't find so. I agree with you. Trailers are absurd. I don't think I don't find so at all because it brings me to a place where the greater discussion here is not just this movie.
Starting point is 01:00:22 It's the fact that I just don't like that, you know, trailer culture. You've got to stinger everything on it. And we've complained about it in the past. And this is just a reminder to me that like, fuck, man, if you care, you're going to get punished, you know? And especially in that last couple of weeks, the last two, three weeks leading up to the course.
Starting point is 01:00:38 But this has been a known thing for over a year. No, I know. But I'm just, I'm just saying in general in movies. I don't want to see it. This type of thing. Okay, sure. I just let it happen. I want the design fresh.
Starting point is 01:00:48 I want everything fresh. Not even, not even like. And to be honest, Matt, I had forgotten it was this movie. So like I didn't know. There's a trailer to refresh your memory. But I don't, I didn't want to know. You know what I mean? That's the thing is because I thought it was a different movie where it was going to happen.
Starting point is 01:01:04 It's always this one. No, no. But you see what I'm saying. I thought it was a different one. And so it was going to be a big surprise. I too kind of forgot. So that's the problem. That's exactly why I didn't want this to happen.
Starting point is 01:01:15 Because now I know. I didn't forget that this conversation is patently absurd. No, I, you're patently absurd. You're, you're, you're absurd. It's, it's completely 100% valid. Matt, you too. You're patently absurd. Whatever, man.
Starting point is 01:01:28 I, I don't think, you know, the last time something that's been known for over a year be shown to you is not that big of a deal. If this was not known and shown in a trailer, then I totally agree with Matt. So in, in, in Age of Ultron, I had completely missed that vision was me too. I had no idea. I did not see that in the trailers. I avoided it. And apparently in the final couple trailers, they'd been showing them all over the place.
Starting point is 01:02:00 I, I gladly avoided and totally had that moment happen in the theater. That, that's a happy coincidence. And I'm really, really, and that's the kind of thing I wish would happen more often. And it would be nice if, you know, I didn't have to like make a conscious effort to like dodge things. And even when you do, then your Facebook fucking trending like thing. Yeah, right. Is like, I still haven't seen the name.
Starting point is 01:02:25 I still haven't seen the name. So I could be completely wrong about who it is, but it's fine. Yeah. And we'll leave it that way. But you're isolating yourself from the world, man. All I'm trying to say is the best way to watch something is to fucking just have it happen live fresh. That is scientifically untrue.
Starting point is 01:02:41 And you know that you read the same stuff. Yeah. But like, but like, I would be like, it would drive me insane if the last trailer for MGS four had big boss in it. Like, oh, it pretty much did. But it didn't. Yeah. So it didn't.
Starting point is 01:02:56 I know how I like to enjoy things. And I know that, like, it would be nice if we didn't have to worry about this and trailer. Okay. Well, then, you know, Force Awakens was that no one knew what this was. That was the best. That was a grizzly. That was why it was so good.
Starting point is 01:03:11 It don't act like it doesn't happen. I had a no, no, he's not acting like it doesn't happen. When forcing what? Because remember how he's saying he wished it didn't happen. Yeah. And when force awakens. No, don't act like people don't do that. On occasion, but not every marketing firm is that ballsy.
Starting point is 01:03:24 So when force awakens happened, we can go back and we fucking, I was super happy about how that went down. Yeah. And like, and I remember saying, I can't remember the last movie that even bothered. That was like that big, at that level. Like, now there's another one in the trailer for Ten Cloverfield Lane tells you absolutely. Yeah, but it's a tiny movie. It's not like a big.
Starting point is 01:03:43 It's not a tiny movie. Yeah, I guess it doesn't matter how big the movie is. Yeah. It doesn't just, I'm just echoing what Woolly just said about a big movie. So when Woolly says a big movie and then that follows with Cloverfield, yeah. So yeah, but that's really good. Exactly. And I just wish that's one of the reasons I like Cloverfield so much, by the way.
Starting point is 01:03:59 You know, my final statement before we move on is just like, I wish that that type of trailer was the default and that the occasional would be the spoilery. In this, I would usually agree with you to a degree, but Matt's completely right. In this situation, it's fucking absurd. And it's just, there's just no way. Like in the 80s, maybe. It has been genuine news in movie production for over a year. We've talked about it on this podcast.
Starting point is 01:04:29 One of the movies. To try and plug your ears and be like, no, no, no. Like it's absurd. You already know. Or even just seeing it. That's that there's a difference there. There's a disconnect between the two. The problem is that like, there is.
Starting point is 01:04:45 Is there not? The movie, the movie sites I go to. Then you're, then you're, this is another like. Panism. Yeah. The movie sites I go to, one most notably being Joe blow.com. The article for the trailer for Civil War has the image right there because they don't consider it a spoiler because they're a movie news site.
Starting point is 01:05:04 So if you stick to our site, you know that this has been known for a year. Well, but movie news sites just like game news sites are for the one. They're for the one percent. Exactly. And then to a lesser degree, they make a trailer like this for the people that don't know that they have another reason to get excited for a movie. Now, do I do like, let me, let me like, like cement my view on it. Was this absolutely necessary to put in the trailer?
Starting point is 01:05:28 No, it wasn't. But marketing being what it is, there's no way you could convince them not. It makes for a big pop. Yeah, definitely. Now the only other thing is just like, you also now, you also know when it goes down, how it goes down, what the exact moment is and the moment the background looks kind of like the thing that you saw, you're going to go, well, here it is. And I fucking hate that.
Starting point is 01:05:50 You're right about that, that the context that they showed the one clip in. There's no way to change that. That's, you know, unless, and this happens very rarely. They flip the script on that. They flip it, and that's just a deleted random scene that's not going to be in the final. It's going to be like the Clue movie. We're going to go and see a version where Wolverine walks in instead. Yeah, we don't.
Starting point is 01:06:10 You ever seen that movie? I heard the Clue movie. It's got a bunch of different endings that they aired in different regions. Yeah, I heard crazy shit. It's sick. Yeah, man. Pat. I played some FF 14.
Starting point is 01:06:22 That's good. I tried to play the division. That's a bust. How'd that go? It's a busted piece of shit. There's no other option. It is a PC version. It is a zero out of 10 on my review scale as of now.
Starting point is 01:06:35 The PC version. Yeah, or the Uplay version rather. I played a lot of XCOM 2, like a lot of XCOM 2. What's all fixed now? Patch came out. Fixed nearly every single problem. Seems really good, actually. I read down it.
Starting point is 01:06:48 It seems extremely thorough. And when I went back in after reading the tips that people gave me from the LP, the three biggest ones being like full cover dumbass, distance barely affects accuracy. And what's the other one? Yeah, use grenades on fucking everything all the time. Man, that game's a lot easier. Well, I'm playing on veteran also.
Starting point is 01:07:12 But I guess to anyone who's playing it that doesn't know this already, the only advice I could give is, don't wait until you're stronger to do something because enemies advance in power over time, not by mission. So if you wait till like, oh, I'm going to wait till I have the magnetic weapons and the good armor to go do the Black Sight mission, you're going to be fighting way tough for shit on that Black Sight mission
Starting point is 01:07:33 because you waited. Fantastic. I really didn't do all that much, honestly, aside from getting fucking sick. Did you play Street Fighter at all? I played a little bit, not that much. You excited for Alex? Very excited for Alex.
Starting point is 01:07:43 Me too. I'm really excited for that patch, actually. Yes. Yes, I am. Yeah, we'll get into that. Right about now, actually. Oh, okay. That's the end of my week.
Starting point is 01:07:51 Right. Alex looks cool. He doesn't look that great. Baddies, loser. I prefer his old design. I think this is a step back in pretty much every way. I will concede that the giant... Doesn't look terrible. I will concede that the giant headbed makes it look like a McDonald's fries.
Starting point is 01:08:08 Lots of Photoshop. The only bit of his design I don't like is how his hair, doesn't interact the same way with the headband. As it used to, yeah. Yeah, exactly. But otherwise, he looks great. And they made him, they made... Then they definitely...
Starting point is 01:08:18 His face has to look way more aggressive as from his third strike portrait, in terms of just making him more of a different person. Or else in 3D, he'll just look like nothing. Yeah. Well, Ryu, they did that as well, right? Yeah. We went from anime face with headband to the Aki-Man...
Starting point is 01:08:36 Gurr, I'm Ryu. You know, like the fucking Groucher River. And so they did that with Alex, too. I think Alex looks great. I'm really happy to see that they aren't doing... When they did the third strike conversions into Ultra, they were almost identical, but weaker and slower. Just straight up weaker.
Starting point is 01:08:59 I hate that. Yeah. That hurts me. I was crying out for Dudley to the heavens all the time. You were crying out for Makoto. We both would have been happy with either, right? And then we got them. Dudley and Makoto just...
Starting point is 01:09:15 They aren't as fast. Because it would have been too strong, right? And they don't have as much to do because they're... Because it would have been too much. And I understand the reasons. It still feels bad. Yeah. So...
Starting point is 01:09:27 Feels like your favorite character got nerfed to hell. Therefore, by all means, do like change it up a little bit, work things out a different way, and make a character that is still the one that we fundamentally want, but has new elements to it. Like his stun gun headbutt is now a special move. And works in a different way. I agree with Matt.
Starting point is 01:09:46 I wish stun gun would have been the super, but I'm happy enough that it's in there at all. Yeah. That's kind of... It should have been the super. Yeah. Because it's just like, if I want accuracy, I want fucking accuracy. And if I'm not going to get it, then I got to go somewhere else.
Starting point is 01:09:59 And like, here's the thing. Like, I bet Alex doesn't have his back fierce anymore, because in Street Fighter V's system, that move would be got like... The hit grab? The... He reaches out his hand, does the headbutt. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:12 Verified. We know that he does a headbutt. Yeah, but it's like, in fucking 3, it was... And it did tons of stun too. It was... It was a normal... This one will do stun. It was a normal that just did like a third of the stun bar.
Starting point is 01:10:23 In Street Fighter V, doing that much stun off like a normal would be fucking... Well, they said the headbutt does a lot of stun. Yeah, but it does say that it's a special move now. Not as much damage. And honestly, the thing that matters... I think it's a little hop. Like the DDT.
Starting point is 01:10:36 It might be the... It's probably going to be like birdies. But the start-up. The start-up is kind of what matters there. So, yeah, I look at this... And we need to see the footage. We need to see the trailer. Yeah, if Alex, if this Alex was brand new in Street Fighter V,
Starting point is 01:10:48 it'd have no problem with him visually. It's just like coming off third strike. I still just prefer... Like, I don't think he needs the suspenders. I don't think he needs the tied thing around his waist. Like, if there's anybody that doesn't need redesigns, it's third strike characters. But Chun-Li hasn't changed in...
Starting point is 01:11:06 You're not allowed to change for sex reasons, Chun-Li. But you can. For sex reasons. You can't. You can in alpha. For sex reasons? Yeah, for sex. That's correct.
Starting point is 01:11:14 Well, what about Alex's sex reasons? Yeah, that's not... You can't escape. That's not a Japan word. At ease, loser. I wish. Chicks did dig suspenders, maybe. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:11:24 I don't know. They liked them suspenders to rub the nips. They already said they're going to have a costume reflecting every character's older appearances. And we did see the face change on the Kami once. Yeah, Kami has a different face in that Japanese. One that reflects her early Street Fighter V face. So it's possible to get the pure outfit, you know?
Starting point is 01:11:42 But that being said... I really want to see a video, though. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, and for all we know, it's probably going live right now. He's probably going to come out on March 29th. Because March 29th is sandwiched right in between two events. And the week before, there's almost every day is taken up by some event.
Starting point is 01:12:00 The screenshots and the description they gave so far, I'm excited by everything. Yep, I think the new super with the fucking... The top. The plane drive, into the plane drive on the ground, looks super intense. And I can't wait to see that in action. Because I like moves that are...
Starting point is 01:12:15 Watch it just turn, like, since you don't get the video of it yet. Watch it when you actually watch it completed. It's just like Zangief's. You were in just one frame. It's just one new frame. You're like, is this winners considering our luck? That and the fact, and watching the New York stage,
Starting point is 01:12:30 you see Alex still working on the car in the background, even though he's fighting. It's his brother, Balax. Yeah, I... Well, it'll probably just be like Balrog on the airfield. We theorized this a while. Yeah, I remember. I can see them getting rid of things
Starting point is 01:12:47 like the dive punch from the air. Oh, yeah. I can see them getting rid of... That moves crazy. A couple of his command. I hope it doesn't get rid of... Do you know if he's got his knee, the... Yeah, he's got the end to your knee.
Starting point is 01:12:58 He's got the flash chop. Because I love it. He's got the spinning DDT replaced with a headbutt, and that's all we know about normal. And his V-Trigger and V-Skill. His V-Skill creates a counter hit. Yeah, so his V-Skill is just a taunt where he just rolls the arms.
Starting point is 01:13:14 And whatever you do next is a counter hit. So it's just a third-track taunt. So learn your goddamn counter hit combos. Which is pretty cool. Because he needs them, yeah. And then his V-Trigger is now a T-Zock close line that you can charge, and it breaks your guard. King of dinosaurs, close line.
Starting point is 01:13:29 It's like a focus attack you can't dash out of. I mean, maybe you can, but they didn't confirm that, so... Well, no, it's just a straight-up pop bam comes flying at you. But if you hold it down, you get an unblockable version. Like a focus attack. So what you're telling me is that... No crumple. But you can't...
Starting point is 01:13:46 But you get a... You get a... No crumple. Oh. It's a guard-breaking attack. As in it'll damage you. But only when it's fully charged, right? Think, denge and hendoken.
Starting point is 01:13:54 Yeah, okay, so like a focus attack. So what... Ah! So woolly. It is a bit different. It is a bit different. Yeah, there are some differences. So what you're telling me is they gave Alex a galactica phantom.
Starting point is 01:14:05 They gave him a galactica phantom. Yep. So you're going to be playing Alex, and I'm going to be playing Alex, and Matt's going to be playing Alex. Matt's going to be playing Alex. Matt's going to be playing Alex. Uh, well, like if he can still do his tick-throw setups, and if he can still, like, do his ridiculous disrespect,
Starting point is 01:14:20 stomp, stomp, stomp, cross-up game... No, there's no stomp listed in those special moves. It wasn't listed. No, it wasn't listed. Got to wait and see. That's one of my... Alex has too many moves. He did give him a lot of moves by the end of Thursday.
Starting point is 01:14:34 Like, let's just run down the list real quick before we move on. Well, slash elbow is actually... Slash chop. Slash elbow. Power bomb. I'm counting the dive kick. Yeah. Because it's the dive punch rather.
Starting point is 01:14:46 Count the back. Anti-air, normal. Anti-air air grab. Yeah. Stomp. Slash elbow. The slash elbow, which is not the flash chop. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:56 No, slash elbow is the one that goes all the way across the screen. Did you say DDT? I did say DDT. Yeah, he's got, like, seven or eight. He's got seven normal fucking special moves. Absurd for Street Fighter. That's crazy. So, yeah, no.
Starting point is 01:15:10 At ease, Louza. I'm excited for that patch too. Yeah, so more than Alex even, I'm kind of shocked at how much is in that patch. I'm really excited for it because, like, we're going to start getting to the point where we can actually see what the fight money breakdown is going to be for the rest of its life cycle.
Starting point is 01:15:27 Obviously, as features get added, it'll change a little bit. But, like, right now, with the way it is, where you effectively have to win 2,000 online matches to get a character, not including level ups. So it's actually significantly less than that, but the daily challenges is going to radically... We'll see what they are.
Starting point is 01:15:45 But as long as it's any fight money they give you, it'll radically reduce that amount. And stuff like the trials increase the baseline easy fight money with each character beyond their story and their easy and normal survivals. I am shocked at what appears to be a super in-depth level of tutorialization in those trials, including how to do cross-ups and unblockables
Starting point is 01:16:12 and all sorts of fucking shit that I would never expect the game to include. Shout-outs to fixing those option selects. Aggressive, like, straight up combo fiend fuck option selects at every corner. He wants you to make the right guess. Stop it, stop doing them. Thanks, combo fiend.
Starting point is 01:16:31 That's cool, getting rid of weird bugs with Vega, getting rid of broken shit with Chunlin. I like that bug with Vega. Fly off the top of the screen. Yeah, so, like, this game is going to change aggressively. You're not going to have to wait a year before they touch it. You're going to have to wait 30 years. They're changing the way jump frames work in this match.
Starting point is 01:16:49 Yeah. Which is really crazy. Universally, jumping neutral and jumping back is all, like, one frame less for every character. I'm going to grab you. So, it's going to take five frames. Good luck. Yeah, but it's easier now.
Starting point is 01:17:02 Good luck, loser, I'm in the air. Pre-jump frames. Yeah. So, no, it's really cool that this is the speed at which we're going to be seeing this shit. I really, really hope, because they haven't confirmed anything, I really hope Alex comes with a character story and the rest of the DLC. I don't think he will.
Starting point is 01:17:18 Oh, I feel like that's going to be par for the course. I don't think he will. I would hope it was par for the course, but we haven't gotten anything and they haven't announced whether or not. Didn't, yeah. I don't know. I feel like I just assumed it's like he's going to be a new character in the game and he'll be in all of this.
Starting point is 01:17:33 They've said that. I'd also imagine they would release all the characters, then they would release a patch that puts all their stories. They have said that. They're all included into the game. Probably from a game development standpoint, that makes more sense for them to do. Perhaps, yeah, whichever way it were to go down,
Starting point is 01:17:48 I just hope they would have. Part of the announcement is that there will be trials for all 16 available characters, not 17. So it really does look like Alex will just be Alex, which is a bummer. Yeah. So there's that other fighting game news of which there's quite a bit this week. We've got the leaks for KI season three. Whoops.
Starting point is 01:18:09 Every fighting game gets some leaks. Mortal Kombat usually. Street Fire's got lots of leaks in the past. It's nice for KI to finally get its turn. I think this is the first one. For that tight ship to finally get a hole. It's nice for Paul to start sweating when this happens. Oh man.
Starting point is 01:18:26 I love how when we were talking about the Arbiter, Matt just kept going, man, fuck General Ram. Who cares about General Ram? Dude, I think all of us are on the same boat. Liam couldn't remember. Was he actually only in one game? That's correct. He's replaced by Scourge in the second.
Starting point is 01:18:41 He's so much cooler. Who is much cooler and third when it's the Queen. Someone correctly pointed out Scourge, actually, if you put them side by side next to Arbiter, it'd be hard to tell who's who. Yeah, maybe. Fuck it. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:18:53 I was kind of worried. I was like, oh no, does Ram come back and has all this stuff into it that I never played? Great. So then I know the entire arc of General Ram. He was there and he looked evil and you shot him in the face. By the way, General Ram is one of the leaks confirmed for Killer Instinct season three.
Starting point is 01:19:07 No, that's what we said. That's confirmed if that makes any sense. That's the point. Fuck this, man. Why General Ram? It's not confirmed in the sense that- There's still no art of him. As long as there's not a visual of him, it could be anything.
Starting point is 01:19:20 It could be a red herring. It could have just been maybe they were going to put him in, maybe then they just put Arbiter in. It could be some kind of obscure sheep character. It's going to be scale-bound, dude. It could be an excuse to just have a Gears of War move set instead of a halo one. I'd rather have Marcus Phoenix than General Ram.
Starting point is 01:19:37 I'd rather have Cole train than either. General Ram means you're not getting a Lancer. General Ram means you're not getting the Hammer of Dawn. I would have really just preferred Arbiter and- I don't know what else there is. Yeah, I think two guest characters, one old one new, is completely fine. A third one, especially from Gears, is like- I'm okay with the number.
Starting point is 01:19:55 I just think that another shootbang-y shootbang is kind of silly, but I'm sure they're going to do their best to try and make the variety good. You know what made me go, all right, General Ram. Another Microsoft character? Well, no, is that he has no guns. He has no weapons. He's just a straight-up grappler that punches hard. But what are the odds, right?
Starting point is 01:20:12 I want a character who's just a discarded pile of grab by the goolies games. I want Forza Car. Because- Yeah, Forza Car's a good one. Because Gears fan that plays it and goes, I know that guy picks him and then goes, what? General Ram is in less Gears of War games than any character. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:30 I'm calling it right now. He will have an active reload mechanic as part of his instinct. I hope so. That's a cool thing. But you just introduced a guy with a gun. Yeah, that's what makes me think. That's the only makes me think that he's not going to have a gun because you already have a character with a gun.
Starting point is 01:20:45 There's probably going to be some kind of down system. General Ram to be voiced by Keith Davids. Oh, that's good. I'd rather talk about Mira. Yeah, Mira's cool. So we have Mira as the other leak. I don't know if this is sure or not, but someone said Maya's twin sister. Because in their extended storylines released months ago,
Starting point is 01:21:05 it mentions Mira by name by name. So she actually is a canon character and some people. So why is why is Maya's twin sister a vampire sacrifice herself to save Maya? And therefore people theorize that Con Ra brings her back to life. She, you know, whatever. There's a million video game reasons to come back to life. My only problem with Mira is that she looks like she's just a girl from Mortal Kombat. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:31 But it is an early design. She's not even going to be at launch. So lots of time to work on her. But she seems cool. Another cool female definitely could use. It's got a great female cast already. So one more to the pile. I'm excited.
Starting point is 01:21:43 I'm excited more than anything to see her retro design. Yeah. Well, I was going to say that whatever you think the retro design should be, should have probably been the main one. Because like when you go female vampire here, my brain goes to. I like it better than Tusk and Maya. I'm not Maya. Fuck Kimu.
Starting point is 01:22:01 But my brain, when I hear female vampire goes to like, you know. Female vampire from Tekken Revolution. Ryan Stoker. I think of Natara from Deadly Alliance. Because that's a female vampire character. Yeah, I just want. In fighting games. I just want Soul Calibur II, Ivy Costume II again.
Starting point is 01:22:20 Dude, have you played as female vampire from Tekken? Eliza, who was just referred to. The blood sucking moves. Yeah, she was just referred to as female vampire for a long, long time until they finally gave her a name. Wait, who's Eliza? This Tekken character. The Tekken vampire.
Starting point is 01:22:37 When was this? She was in the first revolution. Tekken Rev. Oh, that's why I don't know. And she's great. And it's unfortunate that she's only in that one. Is she in the Tekken 7? Nope.
Starting point is 01:22:44 That's why I don't know. A lot of characters aren't in Tekken 7 though. Spruce Irving there. And then the last leak, I believe, is Shadow Lord's mode. Which is. Some online mode. No one knows what it is yet. Yeah, there was a couple other leaks.
Starting point is 01:22:57 But like, yeah, Shadow Lord's, it might be the next step for the Shadow mode. Shadow mode, yeah. Shaded with Shadow a few more times. A quick look at a placeholder possibly of the new character select screen. Yeah, what do you think of the green look? I think it's fine. I think it's confusing because if it's supposed to be all about Gargoss, it should be purple or something because that's his main color scheme.
Starting point is 01:23:23 So I don't know why they're going with green. It seems like it's green and purple. It's not just green. Yeah. So you would like it a lot. Yeah. Whatever. Is it the type of green you like?
Starting point is 01:23:33 It doesn't, that doesn't matter. Is it? That doesn't matter. Answer the question. It's fine. Okay, he loves it. He loves that green. Like, it's stupid that it's like, no matter what the word comes up and oh.
Starting point is 01:23:44 But you're speaking into a green colored microphone. Next to your bed with green pillows. That's correct. What color is this table? With the podcast mixer on a green table. That doesn't stop me from making an objective. It doesn't. Like, about the character select screen.
Starting point is 01:24:06 Yeah. I do like that they've arranged the rows into nice season one, season two, season three. I'm fine with that character select screen as long as it runs better. Yeah, Matt pointed that out earlier. It could be the worst character select screen all the time, but as long as the character models appear faster, I'm fine with it. Do you remember when we were at your place and we were on the season two character select and both of us were just...
Starting point is 01:24:29 Pause, pause, pause, pause. Spinal! Yeah, exactly. Both of us were just mashing buttons and just going around the character select, Matt. That was when the launch and it improves in some, but it's still not great. But it like slowed to a crawl, which is weird because it's a character select screen. And the costumes take a while too. So yeah, I wonder where Alex is going to be on the character select screen.
Starting point is 01:24:51 On the top. They're going to put in some more triangles. In the middle. All the way at the top. Where the random select button is. You can only get them by random. By random. That would be the worst.
Starting point is 01:25:03 That was Dan and Akuma in Street Fighter Alpha 1. They were part of the random select box. I really wish that you couldn't play Ken online. I would pay for that. I would pay for a DLC that makes it so I can't fight Ken's online. You know, the funny part is that like I have stretches of Ken's, I have stretches of Ken's, but then they stop, right? So you fight a couple of Ken's, you fight like four Ken's.
Starting point is 01:25:25 You pass through a very specific ranking number of points and then the Ken's go away. Then the Ken's go away. I was on again the other night and I fought like 10 people and like six of them were Ken's. Let me ask you guys, what's your current ranking at? Bronze. Ultra Bronze. Okay, I'm still at Ultra Bronze, but I barely played in like three weeks. Systems working as intended.
Starting point is 01:25:48 The way that it's set up is like, it seems like right now there's an influx of Karens. No, that was always the case. Yeah. Dude, like... But I'm trying to, like, because this is the second time like, Liam's brought up the Ken problem and it's like, wait till you get to the Karens, because they're beyond... Scrubby Karens are actually decent, so they're everywhere.
Starting point is 01:26:10 And they're just going to abuse that unsafe shit, you know? So that's fine. And then the other piece of fighting game news we have is that Radiant Entertainment was acquired by Riot Games, and more importantly, this is fucking awesome. Well, first of all, Rising Thunder. I was so confused because when this popped up and it was like, Rising Thunder canceled by Riot Games acquisition and it was like, this is a twist on a good thing.
Starting point is 01:26:37 Yeah, no for sure. So the delivery of the news, depending on where you got it from, was spun to be fucking something that wasn't. Riot shutting down. Like, no, no, this is really good news. If you're on the Rising Thunder mailing list, you got the word there. Hey, guess what? Radiant Games is going to make goddamn Radiant Entertainment,
Starting point is 01:26:55 my bad, is going to make a League of Legends skin rising. Yes, they are. It's going to be League. That is literally what they are going to do. I super hope so. It's the only thing that makes sense. I wrote that tweet. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:07 If they canceled Rising Thunder, that's the only logical... Yeah. I had so little attachment to Rising Thunder, and a lot of ways. Like, I only really liked the Girl Robot design. I didn't really like many of the others. The Centurion one was pretty good. So I'm actually happy...
Starting point is 01:27:22 Robots don't have genders, Liam. No, the Girl Robot design. As in the design is Girl inspired. Also, the pilots do. Yeah, but the pilots do anyway. Dauntless is a girl too. Dauntless is the shit. But I'm really happy because I didn't like the aesthetic of Rising Thunder.
Starting point is 01:27:36 And that's just, that's totally my opinion. I don't think it was bad or anything. I just didn't like it. At least League of Legends has some. So I'm really happy that they're going to this. Yeah. I mean, when the news hit, I made a tweet, and we had some discussions,
Starting point is 01:27:47 and like some people tweeted back at me. There's a bunch of people that just never got into it. Not just for aesthetic reason. Some people just didn't... They didn't feel that there was enough of a mid-range zone to the game. It was kind of like beginners and then experts, and that was kind of it. But I felt that was a step,
Starting point is 01:28:05 a daring step in the right direction for fighting games. I would love to see that. There is a fucking straight line from like MOBA, that is the most popular game in the world, to MOBA ideology-styled fighting game. Your special moves have a MOBA-style cooldown. Yeah. Will I get to play Yasuo in a fighter?
Starting point is 01:28:24 Yes. Hopefully. Yasuo. Do I get to play as character with spikes and a spear? Will you be able to play as girl that has purple and pink stockings and punk hair? Yes. With big shark cannon thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:39 Yes. But... I would never know the names of the characters ever. Jinx is a great design, you idiot. Is that what it's called? Sure. She. Whatever it is.
Starting point is 01:28:47 She. The character? She. Yes. Yeah. Okay. So, what was cool was like... The iconic shark grenades.
Starting point is 01:28:56 Dude, that's more iconic than anything in Killer is at this point. I've only seen it in cosplay. I've never seen it in real life. Right, right. Um... So... That's as real as it gets. No.
Starting point is 01:29:13 Radiated entertainment. It was acquired by Riot Games. And it's like, I'm glad that they're the ones that got this. Yeah, for sure. That's the place we wanted to go. Yeah. And then today, we had Tom actually responding. Tom Cannon, right?
Starting point is 01:29:25 Yes, Tom Cannon actually responding in a Reddit thread on our games to comment on the acquisition. And basically, he clarifies straight up. He's like, we are... We love fighting games more than anything else in the world, obviously. That's why we always step in when we see something that needs doing that no one else is doing. We want to do that. So, EVO was necessary because... They made EVO.
Starting point is 01:29:50 Yeah. They did it. And then no one was doing GGPO. So, they're like, we're going to make GGPO. You know, they took the step that's going to help all of fighting games. And so, the idea is with Rising Thunder, even though it's an early thing, it was a step that needs to happen, which is a daring step. And like, these guys...
Starting point is 01:30:05 So much the accessibility of fighters. Like, not only based on what they're saying, but like, their actions for the past, what, 20 years? Forever years. Like, they wouldn't have done this if they didn't think this was a good thing for fighting games. Dude, like, they've been running like their company, like, barely on... Yeah. Like, they don't...
Starting point is 01:30:23 It's not about the money. No, the idea of the cannons having money, though? Great, great, great, great, great, great. Yeah, you know, and they already had money. But now they have money, money, quiet money. They got that sell-out money. Now, I don't know, yes, they do. Yeah, well, good choice.
Starting point is 01:30:38 With this came news that like, because I don't know the inner workings, but apparently, like, Riot is known for some... Some people have beef with Riot over some things. He's got that many fans. I mean, you're inevitably going to get something. He don't get to the top without making any enemies. Someone yelled on my... It might be two super legit claims, too.
Starting point is 01:30:58 I just don't know what they're saying. Did you know that they beat their employees? But like, something about them being unfair with their prices or doing some kind of money grabbing... I mean, the costumes were expensive, really expensive, like $20 costumes, but that's... Jesus. I wish they could remember what people were saying.
Starting point is 01:31:15 But in any case, it sounds like, from what it sounds like, it is, from what Tom's saying here, a situation where it's not a hostile takeover, it's not that they forced them to shut down Rising Thunder. Tom and Tony decided to shut down Rising Thunder themselves. I think it was a good decision, because one of my, like, things about Rising Thunder was always, this thing's going to be a flop. I don't think the art style was attractive enough to get, like, a big audience.
Starting point is 01:31:41 You could have just said, I think it was a good decision, because fuck those robots. No, no, no. I don't think that's an art style that grabs people in a big way. And I think you can see that, based on how many people were still playing the alpha. And the fact that I heard back from people that weren't as excited as me, that, like, I get it, I get it.
Starting point is 01:31:59 I think all the characters and robots were fine. I just thought the decision to not have local is probably the dumbest decision I've ever heard about any product ever made. I still think that's dumb, but... And if whatever they make after that still has that? Now, with Riot, they're going to be able to double down on that, if they want to. That's my only, like, wow, this will tank because of this reason. Pretty sure League of Legends has local.
Starting point is 01:32:22 Land or local? Probably, well, land is local to those games. But to the, to a... It's not really local. But what I mean is, yeah, two computers or... You need ten setups, because it's ten players. Oh, sure, but I mean, for this game, it would be a fighting game, so I would consider it a local.
Starting point is 01:32:40 It's a third thing. It's a step in between, and I call it land. Yeah. It's good. Land is better than no land. Better, way better. And thank God Pokenness has that, and thank God... Yeah, or else you get nothing.
Starting point is 01:32:50 You get fucking nothing otherwise, exactly. Yeah. So there's that. They made the decision to shut it down, and Riot is pretty much just asking them, what do you guys want to do? League. Tell us what you want to do. Want to do a League of Legends fighting game.
Starting point is 01:33:02 They're going to do a League of Legends fighting game. They're going to make it... I'd like it to be called League of Legends. Like it's... Rising Thunder, because I still lament the loss of such a cool, sounding game for your game. If it's not a League fighting game, I might actually be disappointed at this point. No, I wouldn't be disappointed by like, how? What would take?
Starting point is 01:33:19 That was the most obvious thing. Like maybe they're just touchy about the license, you know what I mean? Maybe. But if they are, and that's the case, then I would easily just take a fighting game with a new cast of characters. Maybe they'll make coalition of heroes. Because they're humans, and they look like people, then people will accept that. Coalition of fables.
Starting point is 01:33:40 There it is, there it is, there it is. Nailed it. Sense of right alliance, the fighting game. Sense of right. Wasn't that... I would love that. Wasn't that what Crytek was making? Sense of right alliance, the MOBA.
Starting point is 01:33:54 And doing amazing things with that Shrek texture. And that car. And Batman. Oh man, I want sense of right alliance games so bad. I know you do, man, I know you do. No, you don't. You don't know how much he wants it. You don't know how much.
Starting point is 01:34:14 So the other, probably the biggest piece of news this week that's fucking... I couldn't believe it. Wow. I was having breakfast with my girlfriend and I said, check this shit out. She goes, what? But it's, here's what it is though, it's the first gesture. Yeah. Charles, Chris Charla over at ID and Xbox just announced that they're going to be supporting
Starting point is 01:34:35 cross network play. And according to their definition, cross network play is basically allowing any developer that makes an Xbox game, it doesn't have to be an indie game. It can be anything on Xbox Live to use a network service that works with Windows 10, but also with any other console or service that wants to connect if they're willing to. That's PlayStation 4. That's if Nintendo wants to play ball, Nintendo's thing. That's any one.
Starting point is 01:35:04 Nintendo has to have actually a game that could be played. Nintendo was first past the post. There's multiple games on the Wii U that you can play with PC users. Shut up. Yeah. Well, the real first past the post is everybody playing with the opposing console, which has always been impossible. Actually, no, Dreamcast, Quake 3.
Starting point is 01:35:23 Dreamcast did it before. That's first past the post. But I just meant in terms of this current people, not Sega. Yeah, man. Like this is why FF14 isn't on the Xbox One. Like they said, can't play with PC and PS4 players. Now, it sounds like the Windows 10 caveat will exist for PC players. Of course.
Starting point is 01:35:43 Here. So it's not just like straight up PS4 plus PC, Steam players or whatnot. We're looking at something where Windows is doing their own branded thing. But still, the opening up of the gesture to say that anyone that wants in can take it is awesome. We'll have to see if anyone actually takes it. I'm sure people will. Because it's up to the developer. I'm sure people will.
Starting point is 01:36:05 Like that means a larger player base overall, rather than two player bases that can interact with each other and maintain a community and create sales. The problem is, if I remember correctly from our good old compliance days, Liam, this is something where they don't just get to say, we want it and then they get it. Right? This is something where they actually do have to negotiate in the first party. Because by default, you're running on PSN and you're using Sony's library. I think as long as the servers are on the publisher side and not Microsoft or Sony's,
Starting point is 01:36:43 it's fine. Like Cionics seems like they're going to be the first ones that are doing it. Rocket League, right? And they have their own servers. And so it's all going to be handled on their own servers and then sent out appropriately. So it shouldn't be a problem. You just have to change one XR and add another XR. Because one of the things they're adding is the ability to filter for Xbox users only.
Starting point is 01:37:05 Yeah, they're adding that. Which probably will become a rule. Which is what Shoe Fighter V has that. Yeah, exactly. I don't know. I think games are going to support it now. It's not too shocking. Not all games, obviously.
Starting point is 01:37:18 Not all games. No, but what it is is unless Sony specifically starts saying that it's cool, the games that have to do it, yeah, they have to have their own servers. And that's expensive. Not everyone can do that. No, of course not, yeah. Not everyone has that infrastructure. So fucking awesome, though.
Starting point is 01:37:38 Kudos and yay for being the bigger man. Titanfall 2, here's your shot. Do it. They use their own servers. Yeah, you know. Titanfall. One step closer to that generation where the consoles don't actually matter. Yeah, and you just buy PC.
Starting point is 01:37:57 And your games don't work. Yeah. Well, Yorubi's the player. Yorubi's off-game, so what? You see, that's the thing. That's a problem when I want more Rayman games, like. Like, no, because you need to have the put the disc in the box and it goes thing. You gotta have that.
Starting point is 01:38:11 Well, the disc in the box, actually, we're not always going to have that. Okay, but you know what I mean. The metaphor. I do. You buy the game and it plays, and then you can play with everybody. That sounds like a good world. Well, Microsoft's moving away from that with their iterative Xbox thing. Or you're going to buy a game and it won't play.
Starting point is 01:38:30 If those words, if that's actually, if we're interpreting that as like... We're going to make a new Xbox that'll have exclusive games. Then, yeah, but I still think that's so insane. Well, like we said last time, we have to wait and see how they're going to roll it out. We just don't know. I feel like it can't be as crazy as we're thinking. The cynic in me sees this move for the online play as a way to stab at Steam, because I bet the games that we'll have this cross-play will only be on the Windows 10 store.
Starting point is 01:38:59 Well, from Microsoft, at least. Well, yeah, but I bet only the Windows 10 store versions of say... Whatever they're reporting. Unless, although... No, because unless, hold on a minute, because I said that thing about Windows 10, but they did specify... I said anything. Anything.
Starting point is 01:39:17 Okay, if that's the case, then... Stop to the developers. Then fucking just pure thumbs up with no cynicism. Because, and that's rare for me. Okay, of course it's up to developers to support this feature. Xbox Live players will always have the option of choosing to play only with Xbox Live players. We're thrilled to confirm that Rocket League, and now with the capability Xbox...
Starting point is 01:39:41 Yeah, okay. Including other console and PC networks. Oh, wow. So, no. Wow. Never mind. It's not Windows 10 only. Well, it is pretty much anything.
Starting point is 01:39:52 That's nuts. Anything that wants it. Engage. That's crazy. Dust them off. You put in the work, Matt. The Phantom. You could play your game.com version of Rocket League.
Starting point is 01:40:02 I would love to play a Steam game variant against like the Xbox One owners or PlayStation 4 owners. That'd be awesome. Well, you could play Street Fighter V. Yeah, no, that's... Hey, guess what? That's been awesome. Okay. That's been fucking great.
Starting point is 01:40:16 I would love for more games to do that. It's fantastic. I've finally had enough matches that have been fine, but I can't do four or five stars. To play with PC players, I have to switch it to five stars only. Okay. So, come here. I've had it to be totally even across the board. Like I've had just as many shitty laggy players on PS4 as I have on PC.
Starting point is 01:40:44 There was a Miyamoto sat down for an interview in Time Magazine and they asked him, oh, fuck ton of shit about Star Wars Zero. And he's like, I'm old. I don't have time for this. And he actually said a lot more than he said about anything. Ever. Ever. In recent years, to be honest.
Starting point is 01:40:58 I think Samus just screwed her heads on. So, here's the confirmations we've got. One, Star Fox Zero is not a prequel or a sequel. It's a reimagining of Star Fox 64. Fuck off. That is so stupid. This was established. I really hope there's more stuff in there.
Starting point is 01:41:15 You don't call it... I really hope there's more stuff in there because I can't deal with Star Fox 64 again. Two, there is. The last Star Fox game that came out was 64. Two, there's more stuff in there confirmed. Yeah, better be good. There's a plot element involving teleporters that is going to work into the New Game Plus that actually continues the story.
Starting point is 01:41:39 Yeah, that's how you transport around the areas and the time travel. And these teleporters also have significance to James McLeod, the great Fox and all the backstory of the past as well. So, it's expanding on the... If anyone needs to catch up, if anyone needs to catch up, I have the Nintendo Power Comics at home. They're really good. So, you're talking to our entire listener base?
Starting point is 01:42:02 If anyone wants to borrow them from you? And yourselves is the best comic. Go to Liam's house and take them. Read the Star Fox comics. Three, apparently at some point in development about a year ago or two, they had the missions and pace of the game set up to play out like watching episodes of a TV show. Yeah, they spoke about that a while ago. Last time.
Starting point is 01:42:22 A long while ago. On Star Fox. Got rid of that and now it's back to being one big movie. So, I think, yeah, there was going to have time breaks where you solve the problem of the day or whatever and then they go back to normal. You know what, that's not even a bad idea. I would love to see commercials within the Star Fox universe in between missions. I don't think he literally means...
Starting point is 01:42:41 Well, I think he did. I think he... I'm assuming he meant like... Like Resident Evil Revelations. Once the story wraps up in this chapter, we wait and then we do the next one. No, I want commercials for Lilat Bucks and Lilat Food. Hey, are your weird animal legs acting up? Trade them in for these robo-animal legs.
Starting point is 01:42:58 They're much better. I don't know. Buy the new Landmaster 5000. It doesn't explode like the last ones did. So, if he goes, whoa! Crystal, I think you're hot if you're driving the Landmaster 5000. Send your frogs to our island so that they don't have to fucking sit and deal with you anymore. Tired of giant heads floating in space ruining your games?
Starting point is 01:43:22 Boy, I am. Take a vacation to Dinosaur Planet. Anyway. Mom, dad! Where are we going? Yeah. Every time we're lost in a game on stream, people suggest that we should have a tricky emoticon to go where we're going.
Starting point is 01:43:42 That might be a good one. It's a good one. We'll get lost a lot. His tricky has a little icon in Star Fox Adventures. Yeah, he does. He's got the little tricky thing. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, there you go.
Starting point is 01:43:53 There is going to be an invincible R-Wing mode for people that just want to see the game. So, traveling mode in res, basically. If you just want to get there. I didn't know that res had that. Yeah, traveling mode where you can't die. You can just sit and watch the game. It's perfect parties. Perfect for your grandma's.
Starting point is 01:44:10 Yeah. Strap your grandma into VR res and watch her explode. Amiimoto wants this game to get people interested in dog fighting games in general and feels that. I thought he meant dog fighting. You mean like with animals? Yes. Nintendo's dog fighting.
Starting point is 01:44:34 That's what Star Fox is. You're Michael Vickamibo. Please enjoy. It's not an Amiibo. It's just a dog in a box. I want kids to gather up some dogs and go into an alley. Level up your dog by like training it at home.
Starting point is 01:44:49 Is this a Pokemon spin-off? Project. No, it's just we dog fighting. Project dog kill. Trader Vick wants to battle. Do the minigame where you hose down the driveway. Yeah, that one. Oh man.
Starting point is 01:45:07 Okay, so he wants people interested in dog fighting games and he believes that. I just thought of it in my head again. Project hammer. Be strong. Be strong. Just skip it. Don't say it again. Don't make me laugh again.
Starting point is 01:45:25 Just skip that part. Just skip it. No, because Miyamoto is rolling deep with his crew of thugs and they got their fucking Rottweilers on the chains. No, they're Japanese akibas. It's true. And like he's doing that like that kind of thug walk where like the dog is pulling him. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:41 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm gonna look back. And she'll be eating us. Um. You know that they're very uncooperative dogs and they basically tell you to fuck off. They're terrible to train. Yeah, that's very hard.
Starting point is 01:45:53 He believes that the two screen control setup they have with the gamepad is the perfect Star Fox control or rather it's Star Fox controls perfected. On a literal sense, he's right. But I think it's interesting because because I've always really liked Gyro aiming ever since it's existed. And I think it took until Splatoon for it to really like get to a mainstream kind of game because it's great. It's amazingly precise about as much as a mouse, honestly.
Starting point is 01:46:23 I prefer typing it on the PS4 with it. Yeah, it's true. Yeah, that's true. You do that. Yeah. I like Gyro controls a lot, but it's weird that he'd say this because there's a lot of people have pointed out, excuse me, this is literally the opposite of how Star Fox has controlled traditionally.
Starting point is 01:46:42 Because traditionally in Star Fox. You move the cursor. You move the cursor. No, no. Well, you move the cursor and the ship at the same time towards the same point and you don't have independent movement. And this is literally independent movement of those two facets. You move the ship separately from the aiming.
Starting point is 01:46:56 Is there a way to turn that shit off? No, but it's going to be better. Then I'm not playing it. All right. Cool. Great. Good to know. So anyway, the other thing that he then mentioned is the way this is set up in all
Starting point is 01:47:07 range mode is interesting because you can then you set what your attention is focused on in all range mode. And then you use the two screens to have yourself. Yeah, and you fly around towards that focus and you stick or exactly. And then you aim where you want to go. The world and traveling towards that direction. The world ends with you is the timeless lesson of most people can't handle. So that's literally what it is.
Starting point is 01:47:34 It would be really hard to track a ship in 3D space. I will concede that I couldn't handle it. But I will also say because it was not well designed. Oh, well, A, you're wrong. But B, that's not a criticism of you or anyone else. Just imagine playing all range mode in Star Fox, but you're aiming on the bottom screen. That seems incredibly hard to do both at once if you didn't have some sort of lock on to keep you like strafing or something.
Starting point is 01:47:59 Is this in there? Did you talk about it last week? Since I wasn't here, the retro stuff? Yes, we did. Okay, just making sure. There's a follow up there in somewhere in that docket. Oh, Coleco ditched him, whatever. Woolly, you can't.
Starting point is 01:48:14 Sorry, I mean the retro R-Wing. Oh, no. You can unlock the R-Wing from Star Fox for the Super Nintendo. With an amiibo. And it also plays the original Super Nintendo theme of Corneria. Oh, cool. Didn't that amiibo get announced that it was not going to come to North America? No, it's just going to be the Star Fox ones.
Starting point is 01:48:37 They were going to make an R-Wing, but they were concerned kids would choke on the pointy bits because it was an SNES R-Wing, which is incredibly dumb and the tiniest bit hypocritical because one of Nintendo's licensed Jack's Pacific toys has an R-Wing this big that kids would literally want to eat. Also many Smash amiibos all have swords. Yeah, I know. The important thing knows that if a kid chokes on a toy, that was meant to happen. The real important thing to know is that Project Giant Robot has not yet surfaced
Starting point is 01:49:09 unlike Star Fox Guard. Star Fox Punch. Because they haven't yet decided to develop it into a full game. Whatever, make that an NX game anyway. I want to see that in the best graphics possible. They kind of made it for that demo and then they let it rest. If I wanted to fight as Giant Robots, I'd rather do on the new system. I really hope they get their shit together because the Wii U era was not a good time for
Starting point is 01:49:37 Nintendo in terms of getting projects to happen with the whole beginning of the kind of pathetic like, oh, we didn't know it would be this hard to make games. Fuckers, you had seven years to look at the last generation and learn. Why would they look at their competitors? And then the amazing Nintendo Direct in 2012, where they announced too much, it turns out. Was that the one where they announced the Fire Emblem Cross System 2 game that didn't exist? Well, not at the time. No, but that version of that game is never going to exist.
Starting point is 01:50:09 No, it was just like a teaser thing. Yeah, exactly. And then we had the really uncharacteristic E3, was it a year ago or two where they showed those early demos like Project Guard and Giant Robo. Nintendo doesn't usually show like crazy early shows like that. There's such small projects, you know? They never show like Splatoon in pre-alpha, you know? But that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:50:31 That's what they did pretty much, you know what I mean? But like with, yeah, they showed Project Guard and Giant Robo and then the other thing, the third thing I forget, way, way earlier than usual. It may have just been Star Fox behind doors and it was like Super Ugo, but I can't remember. I think it was, wasn't it? I think it was. Off-camera Star Fox, yeah. No, like we didn't get to see it like behind doors.
Starting point is 01:50:51 Anyway, retro Star Fox theme. The music, it's the best. Music will never be better. Can't be topped. You know what? Super Nintendo theme? I hate to say it. Melee did it better.
Starting point is 01:51:04 I'm shocked you would say this. I'm also shocked. It's not even a thing of like Melee the Best. It's a thing of like that song is better in that game. I wish that one was on it. Oh, I like the Super Nintendo. I like it too. It's really good.
Starting point is 01:51:15 I love it, but I'm excited to hear the new version. That hopefully uses the Mario Galaxy. No, new stuff is terrible. Play the old classics. I hope they put that Mario Galaxy. Play One Wing Danger. Mario Galaxy, only? I'm hoping that they put the Mario Galaxy orchestra to use.
Starting point is 01:51:33 Yeah, if only. And let them do it. It's not in-house though, that orchestra. No. It was like the. They were called the Mario Galaxy Orchestra in the credits. Yeah. And that's what I want to believe.
Starting point is 01:51:46 That's going to be like. Part of it was the Kyoto Symphony Orchestra and stuff like that. Just like how they do orchestrated themes most places. You need to tell me that Nintendo didn't internally hire an orchestra to sit there all day. A lot of people do think that that's the case. But orchestrated themes are usually just done with the regional orchestras and stuff.
Starting point is 01:52:07 That's like in 15 years you're at a Platinum Games concert and they're like, all right, here's something from our new game. Play Tables Turned. Yeah. They're like, no, we hate that game. We were all incredibly disappointed with it. So. You're like, what?
Starting point is 01:52:24 Speaking of incredible disappointment and having a bad time from earlier, like you said, another PSA. You know those Nvidia drivers that Pat was warning everyone about? That's right. That'll fuck up your computer. They released a fix. Don't download the fix. The fix will also fuck up your computer.
Starting point is 01:52:42 It is not safe to get an Nvidia driver beyond version 362. Whoops. Okay. I'm just letting you know. I should roll that back. We have the confirmation that Tokyo RPG Factory's new game, our rather first game, I Am Setsuna, is coming out this summer here, which is cool.
Starting point is 01:53:02 North America. In North America. I'm going. P. No, no, no, wait. Yeah, that's, it's, it's being called Chrono Trigger, like. And it's very much like Chrono Trigger. The screenshots look like they have a very interesting art style, because like I can't, it looks 3D from a distance,
Starting point is 01:53:24 but like there's parts that look hand drawn. It's, it's all 3D. It's really pretty that game. Okay. So I know I'm a broken record, but you know why that's bullshit. Because the Vita version is not coming. Because it's getting left in Japan. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:36 That's just bullshit. Like. Is it? They made the game and they're localizing it. The, uh, basically. But aren't you the one who always says like, well, they don't think they'd make any money. So it's fine.
Starting point is 01:53:48 But the difference is they would. So like Namco's released numbers where like Sword Art has done like a hundred K in the West alone on the Vita digitally, which is like, those are great numbers. I didn't say consoles. So, um, yeah. PS4 Steam. It's coming out PS4 Steam exactly.
Starting point is 01:54:04 Digital only. It came out last month on PS4 Vita. In Japan. Yeah. No PC version. No. Yeah. The Steam one's been announced for the West exactly.
Starting point is 01:54:13 Yeah. Yeah. I have a little random thing. I'd just like to add because, uh, Willie might be interested in it. Preacher, the show, just announced premiere is May 22nd on AMC. And I'm incredibly excited to look at this to see if I will hate it or love it. That trailer didn't exactly.
Starting point is 01:54:32 It did not as me as well. But I'll give them the benefit of the doubt because I would want a preacher show to be the greatest show on television. I will give it the four episodes stretch. Okay. I will do so as well. We've got, uh, Salt and Sanctuary, which comes out today. So, um, yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:52 I, uh, I played a little bit of it. Yeah. So you're the only one that didn't get to try it, if I remember correctly, from PAX, right? Yeah. Played a little bit of it last night and, um, I don't know. It's not doing it for me.
Starting point is 01:55:05 That's a bummer. I really like it. The, the, the constant loading in and out of like areas, like it's instantaneous, but you're like that first zone, you're constantly going in and out of a, of a, of a building. The individual rooms are all small and it's crazy darkly lit and I don't like their art style. Like I feel, I feel bummed out because I really should like this game.
Starting point is 01:55:24 But there are, the Sky Studios, their art style has always been very specific. I just don't, I just don't care. I don't think it's a bad game by any means, but I don't think it's for me. I can definitely see that they're going for, uh, like, uh, you know, like some other things they're going for a 2D souls, uh, sort of experience. I didn't realize, um, I, I, I thought it was really enjoyable. The controls didn't bother me too much. I got up to that first boss and, you know, you just have to like be really good
Starting point is 01:55:51 if you were roll timing and it was, it was a challenge. It was good. I don't know, man. I didn't realize how much I cared that the souls games were in 3D until I played this, like the, the, the, the Vista and like just diving into like a honeycomb area. Like I, it's just not the same in 2D for me. I, I think I would like, I'd get behind the game that was like, uh, vanilla wear in visuals that had like that type of combat depth.
Starting point is 01:56:19 That would be my favorite thing in the world. Go play Earth Wars. Okay. That's what it is on PS4. It's really good. Okay. This is coming from somebody who like doesn't like Metroid. So take it as you will.
Starting point is 01:56:31 Right. Right, right, right. So there's that. There is, uh, there was a leak, uh, from, uh, Paradox Dev, uh, their Steam page for Stellaris, uh, popped up a bit early and there's extra footage and things of that game. Still not a hundred percent sure exactly what it is, but it seems like it's- I don't know what you're talking about. What's Stellaris?
Starting point is 01:56:56 Stellaris is that game that, uh, Paradox Dev is making. Paradox Dev Studio or whatever. They're the guys that made a Pills of Eternity. Paradox is not made for pillars or anything. Paradox is a publisher. Paradox makes totally different games. Okay. Then, uh, my mistake, um, Stellaris is a game that looks, uh, and seems to be a lot like, uh,
Starting point is 01:57:19 no man's sky in ways, but not a hundred percent. But it's space, ships, discovery. And does no one know? Isn't it like a 4x strategy game anyway? Might be. It's unclear. Like Sins of the Solar Empire or something? The trailer doesn't a hundred percent confirm.
Starting point is 01:57:38 Sure. It seems to just emphasize space, discovery, and, and, uh, flying into things and meeting alien races. And who knows, maybe you fight them, maybe you don't. I don't know. Um, so yeah, that popped up and, uh, no, no release date on that yet, but if that's your thing. Like the thing that Paradox did announce is that, uh, Obsidian and them are going to be announcing a new game at some event in the near future.
Starting point is 01:57:58 That's called GDC, which very, very soon. It's, it's hinted that it might be an Obsidian made Vampire the Masquerade game. But they confirmed it wasn't. Oh, they didn't. Fuck God, damn it. Yeah. Oh, but that's GDC very, very soon. Um, yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:14 I hope, I hope that is good. And so. Sick. Uh, what looks good and is soon is the new trailer for Mutants in Manhattan. Yes. Oh, you'll watch those trailers. But you won't watch a civil war trailer. That's a little different.
Starting point is 01:58:30 But it's so much sooner than I thought. So this trailer is your fucking all the warriors trailer spoilers because, uh, here comes Super Shredder. Good. Here comes the only Shredder I want to fight. Armageddon. Well, he was in the first trailer. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:48 Here comes Reebok. Here comes Rocksteady. Wingnut. Here comes Wingnut. Here comes Baxter. Here comes villains that I don't even recognize. Man. There was like two guys in there that I was like, what?
Starting point is 01:59:00 I recognize all of them. Karai. We know who Karai is. I know Karai is. I'm shaking my face. Who was the who? Okay. Who was at the end?
Starting point is 01:59:09 Crang. Human in a head. Human. Crang. That was Crang's like human body. Yeah. Okay. From behind.
Starting point is 01:59:15 And. Do you know Crang? Yeah, I do. I, it's, I, it seemed like. Who's the other guy then? Um, Somewhere in between the footage, there was a really quick clip of someone with like a really white
Starting point is 01:59:28 face or body. Very pale. Were there mousers? No, but there were robots. Fuck. Mousers are the best thing that came out of TMNT. It's like the utroms. There were robots.
Starting point is 01:59:37 Man. I really wish I could have gone to this game not knowing those characters were there and just have the big surprise. Okay, we get it, Pat. It's exactly the same. It's exactly the same. And, uh. It's exactly the other, the other, uh.
Starting point is 01:59:50 Sorry, I just want to expunge on this a little bit. Yeah. Even when a publisher says summer, I go great. September 13th. Yeah. So I'm really glad that it's not even technically. When the summer began, it's actually like way later in June. June 21st.
Starting point is 02:00:03 So now that it's May, sick. Great job. I. It's so soon. I hate Shredder's voice in this trailer. It's, it's not great. I really don't like Uncle Phil. Is that what else is fine?
Starting point is 02:00:14 It's not because Uncle Phil's dead. Not all shit. But it's way too fucking like, ah, bad guy. And it's like, man. Shredder's voice is not great in a lot of stuff. Shredder should. In the Nickelodeon cartoon, his voice is not great in a lot of the cartoons.
Starting point is 02:00:31 You know, his voice is great in the 2003 cartoon. Abysmal. The Fox Box one. Abysmal as it was. Michael Bay Shredder was just a Japanese guy. And I'll take that. You know, I'll fucking take that. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:46 Was it that? Yeah. It just looked like a big monster. That's Slash. That's Slash. It's gotta be. But who, who was that white thing they were hitting around? It could be just a random enemy for all we know.
Starting point is 02:00:55 That guy. It looks like it could be. It looks like Storm Shadow. Then it's, it's, it's Elite Foot Soldier Ninja. All right. Um, yeah, man. Mutants in Manhattan. I still think that's a terribly generic title.
Starting point is 02:01:09 Mutants in Manhattan. Yeah, we know Ninja Turtles is mutants. I mean, it's a Ninja Turtles title. How fresh are you going to get with Ninja Turtles? You know, like everything's really big. It should be called Ninja Turtles by Platinum. That should be what you want. Buy this one.
Starting point is 02:01:25 For Wii U. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Buy this one. And for 3DS. It's not coming out though for those things. Kids that have Nintendo consoles hate Ninja Turtles. You know, actually they were the only ones who got the games for a little while and they sold terribly.
Starting point is 02:01:41 So I guess it's justified for once. Remember all those 3DS ones? Not really. You bought one of them. That was based on the movie. Yeah, but you still bought it. No, you bought the other one too. Which one?
Starting point is 02:01:53 The cartoon one, the CG cartoon one. The one that came out on the 360. No, the one on the 3DS. I don't know which one you mean. Oh, well, that one as well. I don't know which one you mean. And there was another one. Which one?
Starting point is 02:02:05 It was also movie styled. The other one. You know, the other one. There was three 3DS ones and they were all horrific balls. I only know of... Okay, there's that Way 4 Metroidvania that was terrible, but that was released on a bunch of systems. There was the movie one that worked kind of like a PC RTS style game
Starting point is 02:02:24 and that only came on the 3DS. Yeah. And I think there's the other Nickelodeon cartoon one, which I did buy in preparation for Ninja Turtle Week. But that came out on 360 and Wii and PS3 maybe. I don't know. Just fuck it. Just go.
Starting point is 02:02:40 What's the story? Because I can't ignore it. What does this look like? What type of advertising would you say this is? It's blood vertising. That's blood vertising. It's blood on the floor of a bathroom stall in the woman's bathroom. And this is for what product?
Starting point is 02:02:57 Wow. That's some period. What product is this for? It's for Hitman. Hitman. See? I can't believe. It looks like when you have the stall doors closed,
Starting point is 02:03:09 it looks like there's blood coming from under the stall. Liam, for a little bit of context when you're doing Naruto. But then you open the stall and then you see a bad for Hitman on the floor. We got so bored. We looked up all the different stupid advertising gimmicks a claim did. And we found out about blood vertising, which was actual liquids that were put into the bus stops all over the UK. And it would drain out and stain the public spaces.
Starting point is 02:03:34 And a claim would also foot the bill to cleaning it after the blood had run out after a week. And they dubbed it blood vertising. And that was the only shining moment of the Naruto session that time. That's a really good concept. Can we do that? Then will they're doing it? No, can we do that for ourselves?
Starting point is 02:03:52 Yeah, exactly. Just blood everywhere in a bathroom. And then go check out best friend's play. There you go. There you go. There's blood in a bathroom. Easy as that. There's blood in a bathroom.
Starting point is 02:04:05 And you look at it, then it says, by sense of right alliance. Buy this slave syrup. There's blood. Yeah, that is actually. I like that level. That's a nice advancement. We've got. Yes.
Starting point is 02:04:26 On March 21st. High energy podcast. What's coming out March 21st. The trailer for Best Jojo is coming soon. And then mere days later on April 1st, Jojo Part 4 begins. Unless it's a joke. Unless it's a joke. But I don't think April Fool's works for April.
Starting point is 02:04:45 Yeah, I don't think it does. And like there's this magazine cover here. And it says for one at 2430 Tokyo MX Jojo Part 4. So I think it's happening. It's probably happening. Best Jojo. We got to talk about that Jojo question I had for you. He didn't reply back.
Starting point is 02:05:04 So I need to know. Wanted to know. Okay. Got to clarify. Yeah, I saw it. Clarify later. I saw it. Not here at all.
Starting point is 02:05:10 Thumbs up. Thumbs up. Okay. And thumbs up. Giant fucking thumbs up to River City Ransom SP. Which is the River City Ransom remake being made. That I didn't fucking know about. Yeah, they announced this a long time ago.
Starting point is 02:05:33 So yeah. So there's a ton of... This is ArcSys by the way. This is ArcSys. There's a ton of River City Ransom shit going on. Because ArcSys got the rights. The PS3 one just came out in the West like a few months ago. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:05:44 Yeah. ArcSys bought the rights for River City and Double Dragon. Yes, they did. A few months ago. From one of the many owners. So as confusing as that whole thing was, right? So you've got the River City Ransom remake. And it's a faithful River City Ransom thing with like, you know, some...
Starting point is 02:06:01 It's much more expanded. Yeah, better lighting, better sprites. I mean, the sprites are... The character is still the same, you know. But like shit looks like it's pretty good. All in all, fun trailer, check it out. But then the last half of the trailer is dedicated to a mode that exists in this game. It's a one-on-one fighting mode, right?
Starting point is 02:06:18 A one-on-one fighting mode. Do you know what this one-on-one fighting mode is called, man? No, I don't know. I know that this mode exists, but I don't know the name. Let me try and find it for you. Does it flash in English? Here we go. This is the one-on-one fighting mode as it's being introduced.
Starting point is 02:06:37 Hold on, no, that's more special. Yeah, okay. Wow, wow, that was good. Sorry, sorry, sorry. You gotta find it. Whoa, that was nuts. Here comes New Game Mode. Okay, here it is.
Starting point is 02:06:50 Fighting of Double Dragon 2016? Cool, good name. What does it look like? It's got double dragon music. Billy and Jimmy as coonio characters. And it's playing the double dragon theme, and the one-on-one fucking fighter mode is just straight up double dragon-based. What's this coming out on?
Starting point is 02:07:11 3DS. Fuck, well, we're not going to get it. There's already been like two River City Ransom games on the 3DS that we never got. But Arc System is really smooth, so maybe there's a chance. I fucking hope so, but we've already missed two, and it's a bummer. Because Arc System did release those Dragon Ball games and stuff. Yeah. I mean, Namco did.
Starting point is 02:07:28 I really hope they do. Raw remake of River City Ransom 1? That seems like a knockout, though. Like, that seems like- Sure, sure, I'm just saying we did just miss two. That does- So, I hope they release it. Although, if you want clarification, Woolly, right now, the status of Double Dragon-
Starting point is 02:07:44 What is the status of the Double Dragon license? The status of Double Dragon is that the creator of Double Dragon, Yoshihisu Kishimoto, has a company, and he is the main license holder, and publishers need to go through him and submit their proposal. This is why, so Majesco had to go to him to get Double Dragon Neon made, and he looked at the proposal and looked at Wayforts and, okay, here are the rights, you get them for this long. And then they go, okay, they released the game, they released it on PC,
Starting point is 02:08:20 and then it ran out. Then someone else needs to come up to him that wants Double Dragon, and right now, that's Arc System Works, and they need to ask him, can we make Double Dragon or Kunio games? Because he owns the rights for both of them. And then he goes, okay. So, on a case-by-case basis, any company anywhere at any time- They have to get approval from the God of Double Dragon.
Starting point is 02:08:44 Got it. And that's probably what Rage of the Dragons tried to do and didn't get. No, no, no, this new way of doing it was only established about three years ago. Well, then that doesn't explain the past. No, no, no, it doesn't on the past at all. I'm just saying, this is the state now. I thought we were getting to the bottom of what the fucking Double Dragon insanity over the years has been and why it worked that way.
Starting point is 02:09:08 I'll explain to you, I know the reason why Rage of the Dragons happened specifically, because that was made around 2001. Yes, by Evoga. Evoga and Noisemaker. Yeah. But someone else owned the rights at the time, and who owned the rights at the time was Atlas, because they released Double Dragon Advance on the GBA.
Starting point is 02:09:28 And they didn't know- It's a sick promo art. It's a sick promo art. So cool. That was good. And it was good. And Noisemaker and Evoga did not know that when they started already pouring money into the game. Then when they went, oh, okay.
Starting point is 02:09:38 Well, now we actually have to get the rights to Double Dragon. Give it to us. No, Atlas has it, and you only get it once that runs out. And they said, well, fuck it. We're not going to wait. So only one person can have it at a time. Yeah. So it's like Captain Universe.
Starting point is 02:09:53 Yes. Okay. Yeah, exactly. It's exactly like Captain Universe. Got it. The IP rights to Double Dragon. Perfect. In case you want to know all this,
Starting point is 02:10:02 because I'm working on a digital gaming Double Dragon right now. I was wondering. I'm like, that was a little bit too fucking on the point. I was getting to the bottom of the Bimy and Jammy barrel there. But why is Matt still on point all of a sudden? Yeah, I'm never on point ever. So it makes sense when you're on point. You got to shake it up a little bit.
Starting point is 02:10:23 If I'm on point, it means I'm working on a digital gaming Double Dragon. Anyway. All right. Sorry about that. If you're on point, it's because you're not working on your own stuff. Exactly. Yeah. Email.
Starting point is 02:10:36 Slider time. Slider time. Slider time. If you want to... Did you see all the cool... Have you stopped having a coughing fit? Yeah. You're okay?
Starting point is 02:10:45 My voice is like, decidedly shittier than it was before that coughing. Do you need some water? No. Okay. I know this is decidedly not the right time for it. It is. Did you see all the sick zero time dilemma stuff? Can you phrase that in the form of a letter?
Starting point is 02:11:01 No. Then no. I didn't. What is it? It's fucking... There's just awesome screenshots. The game looks fantastic. They showed off all the characters now.
Starting point is 02:11:12 Tons of details. Supposedly a trailer is coming at GDC. I like... That's really sick. Last time... I don't want to bring it up again. I'm just totally baffled as to why the Civil War trailer is different from all of these other examples. You were right to not want to bring it up again.
Starting point is 02:11:28 The zero time dilemma. Like last time I brought it up, I kind of talked about the character. It didn't really... Like no one really said anything. So I kind of didn't like... Sure, okay. On that. But I guess...
Starting point is 02:11:42 There's like screens now. It looks really good. I guess when there's a trailer, you know, will be when people start really getting back on it. Yeah, I'm only mentioning it because now there's screenshots. Cool. I love the art, man. Game looks really pretty.
Starting point is 02:11:51 It looks fucking great. Yeah, absolutely. Huge step up. Still kind of sad that Kinu's out. Because apparently this is a step up. A huge step up from Kinu Nishimura. Wally... Wally throwing Kinu Nishimura in the dirt.
Starting point is 02:12:06 No, no, I love Nishimura. I love Nishimura. I would rather have heard it. Oh no, he didn't know. No, I did. Okay, yeah. Because I remember the way the main character is drawn with his... Yeah.
Starting point is 02:12:19 It's Nishimura style. Absolutely. I wish this changeover would have happened so Nishimura could have worked on Street Fighter V, like artwork instead. Because she's much more consistent than Benga's. He's an SNK guy. No.
Starting point is 02:12:33 He did the KOF stuff. Kinu Nishimura. The woman. Think about this really carefully before you... Who is not a he who didn't do SNK stuff. Or do you mean Shinkiro? I don't mean Shinkiro. Because that's the person you're talking about.
Starting point is 02:12:46 Hold on a moment. All right. We can start this out. We can start this out real good. I don't think there's anything to sort out. You're completely wrong. Like Kinu Nishimura to my knowledge never worked on SNK. The extent of Kinu's art, I think, is in CVS.
Starting point is 02:13:02 No, it's in Third Strike. Not Third Strike. It's in New Generation. Oh, yeah. Because I thought Shinkiro did the art for the Capcom characters. And she did the art for the... Yes. No, you're right. But before that, she did most of the character like art for New Generation. Yeah. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 02:13:17 You're super right. You're super right. You're super right. Um, I was mixing it up with Uppers. Who is the old SNK art... Not Falcoon, but the other guy. No, no. Because the Uppers artist...
Starting point is 02:13:31 Who's the Uppers artist? Is has a very similar style to Nishimura. Yeah, she did Canon Spike. Canon Spike as well, yes. That's true, yeah. That one always gets ignored. Yeah, fuck. And she did...
Starting point is 02:13:43 Didn't she do... Fuck, what's the one with the robots? Cyborbots? Cyborbots, yeah. She did Cyborbots. And she did UN Squadron. Not sure about that. She designed the Felry and stuff.
Starting point is 02:13:54 Oh, that's not UN Squadron. That's the other one. The other Capcom plain shooter. They have a million of those. Hiroaki. Hiroaki. Hiroaki, that's the SNK artist. Exactly, and like Hiroaki style and Nishimura style have similarities that kind of made me
Starting point is 02:14:13 confused there. Sure, okay. It's a very loose kind of coloring style with sketchiness and like the coloring is always not flat. And so I just... You had the mixed up. Very distinctive, so whenever I saw that... You wanted to throw Hiroaki onto the floor.
Starting point is 02:14:27 No, I just wanted to say that I really like the new art. Yeah, no, the new artist is fantastic. Anyway, so if you want to send in an email, that's superbestfriendcast.gmail.com. That's track. That's super bestfriendcast.gmail.com. That's the one. Yeah. And when Willie stops looking long and lee at Nishimura art.
Starting point is 02:14:50 We can read those emails. All right, let's take the final... Final question. Fuck Mary Kill style question ever. Ever? Ever. I think as long as there's good ones, you can still keep doing it. You know what?
Starting point is 02:15:03 They have to be good. They have to be good, but this, for now, I'm pretty much putting it to rest, assuming that nothing else good is going to come. I've seen people do weird stuff. They go, fuck Mary Kill and exist. So here's what we got. Exist is the fourth one. We have four unique ones.
Starting point is 02:15:17 That's a cop-out answer. We have four unique ones tailored to each of us individually. All right, why? Because... So the email lasts longer. And yeah. Oh, damn it. Jesus.
Starting point is 02:15:30 That's getting violent. You can really taste the chutney. Oh, sorry, guys. The Hiroshi's about to come out. Hold it in. All right. So Zav Ivory, Zay Ivory says individual fuck Mary Kill style questions. So Matt.
Starting point is 02:15:49 Yes. Fuck Mary Kill. My Momoji Lulu. Jesus Christ. This isn't that hard. Your wife's not in there. Your wife is not in that list, Matt. This whole concept breaks down
Starting point is 02:16:05 if we can't do it in 10 seconds. Kill... Kill... Kill Momoji. Fuck my Mary Lulu. But that's... Can I ask a question about the Fuck Mary Kill style? Does it imply that you never have sex with your wife in this situation?
Starting point is 02:16:28 No, no. It implies you just have sex with sex. Okay. But do you have sex with the married one? Yes. Oh, okay. Well, you have... You're married.
Starting point is 02:16:36 Yeah, okay, that's... Yeah. So like, yeah, but like fuck is just fuck. Yeah, okay. You're not even allowed to talk to her. Who's Momoji? She's from Dead or Alive. Ninja Gaiden.
Starting point is 02:16:45 Ninja Gaiden. Well, she's originally from Dead or Alive. Dead or Alive. Dead or Alive. Dead or Alive. Dead or Alive. Ninja Gaiden. Dragon Sword.
Starting point is 02:16:52 Dragon Sword. Okay. And like, she's the old... She's a mainstay now. She's the only Dead or Alive character I even like anymore, since Tina is apparently erased from existence. No, she's got black hair. Black haired one.
Starting point is 02:17:02 She's like a side pony tail. Yeah, okay. I know that one. She's the only one I like anymore. I'm not allowed to like Tina. All right. You did. There are so many girls who missed out on Extreme 3.
Starting point is 02:17:12 Yeah, well. Not just Tina. But Tina was my favorite. Fair. So what was your final answer there? Fuck Momoji. And that's only because she's the... No, you said Kill Momoji.
Starting point is 02:17:22 Sorry, I said Kill Momoji because she's the newest. Therefore, I have the least attachment. And then marry Lulu and fuck Mai. Okay. That's good. Pat. Why would you marry Mai?
Starting point is 02:17:31 That's crazy. Yeah, that's stupid. That means you'd never actually have sex. Oh, I know that. Pat. Cancel, promote. Constantly rumored. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:17:46 Half-Life 3's type scenario. All right. Yakuza, Platinum, Franchise, and Street Fighter. Yakuza made by Platinum? What? Can you read that again? Yakuza, Franchise. All Platinum's Franchise.
Starting point is 02:18:00 Sorry, Future Games. Yeah. This is what's written. What's the third one? Street Fighter, Franchise. And it's promote. Promote, cancel. Constantly rumored.
Starting point is 02:18:11 Or constantly rumored. But like Half-Life 3 may never actually happen. And this is Pat with two Ts, by the way. That's Pat. And it's Yakuza, Platinum, and Street Fighter? Yeah. A Platinum is promote, constantly rumored, to Street Fighter and cancel Yakuza.
Starting point is 02:18:27 I totally agree. I'll agree to that. Yeah. There's enough Yakuza. That's easy. One more time? What was that? It's promote, Platinum, constantly rumored,
Starting point is 02:18:36 Street Fighter, and cancel Yakuza. And then we're in the reality that we were living in one year ago. Yeah, okay. Okay. Liam, fire from video games forever. Condemn to a janitor forever. A janitor forever.
Starting point is 02:18:50 Or Pachinko Mines. And forced to create video games forever. Kojima, Yoko Taro, Sakurai. Wow, that's a tough one. What was the... They're all really good. Fire forever, janitor forever. Two of them are bad in this case.
Starting point is 02:19:09 Yeah, that's right. Like, in the other cases, at least two of them. Janitor's the worst one, because they can go get a non-janitor job in another industry. Yeah. I guess... Hideo's had a hard life.
Starting point is 02:19:27 I think he's good. I think I'd put down Hideo. I agree. Because right now, he's so on the down low that I think I can do it without feeling bad right now. He probably wants to make movies. Yeah. I would...
Starting point is 02:19:45 This is the last one's tough. Turn into a janitor is the tough one. Yoko Taro, obviously. I would put Sakurai in the janitor position. It'd be funny if he constantly slept while he was working. Because the floors are slept. It would be hard on his wrists, I know that much, but... You're a monster.
Starting point is 02:20:00 I would put Sakurai in that position. Because there are people in games that can make games as good as Sakurai. There is nobody who can replace Yoko Taro yet. Nobody can do that. Can't you just put a mask on and fake it? Nobody. There are no games...
Starting point is 02:20:15 It's like Singkara. There's nothing anything like his games. So... Do you make one game or is there more that I'm not aware of? No. The Dragon Guard games in near. And there's nothing like them. Aren't most of those like bad?
Starting point is 02:20:29 He didn't make... He and everyone else knows that's because of the companies they were working with. Yeah. Which is why they're working with Platinum now. Because all of his games have amazing... Amazing everything that he does and mediocre gameplay. Because like, hey, access games make an action game. Ouch.
Starting point is 02:20:48 Well, that's Dragon Guard 3. I'm sure near would have been a thousand times better if it wasn't... If the grunt work wasn't done by Kavya. Who's not that great of a developer development house. Well, they're gone now, yeah. But like that's the thing with the music is like 10 on 10. The story's 10 on 10.
Starting point is 02:21:05 Characters, whatever. And that's all him. Same thing. Well, the music's Okabe, who he knows exactly. And the graphics are great. They're not like... If only. They're not heavy rain or beyond two souls.
Starting point is 02:21:17 But the gameplay is the problem. If only when you approach the fishing mission, it asks you to insert your copy of Sega's bass fishing. And then just, yeah, take it from there. Yeah, that's a tough question though. And then Woolly, get into, ban yourself from, admire from a distance. Those are good. A mecha force, a worldwide fighting league.
Starting point is 02:21:38 Professional poker. Professional poker. That one, that, I mean, you cursory talked about poker once. I'm gonna answer for Woolly. Please do. It's, it's banned from forever is the poker league. Okay. Admire from a distance is the worldwide fighting league.
Starting point is 02:21:55 And get into is the mecha force. Yep, that's exactly what I was gonna answer. Are you for real? Moving on. The poker one makes it too easy. These things are not equal. Like, it's a shame that if the poker one had been something else, that could have been something.
Starting point is 02:22:10 But you know what? You could die more easily in the mecha thing. Oh, but if he doesn't care? But it'd be sick nasty. And also I'd want to make sure that there's a really good ejector system. Yeah. You know, because the problem with, the reason why people die in their mechs is because they always,
Starting point is 02:22:23 They're slow on the eject. They're slow on the eject. They have too much hubris and or they're all like caught up in the moment in one way or another. There's too many moments in Gundam in which a guy gets shot through the chest and he has enough time to look down in the cockpit at his mech exploding where he could be ejecting. Because you know what people don't do in space? They don't shoot fucking floating pilots.
Starting point is 02:22:43 That's bad form. That's weird. So difficult. Right. And then. Yeah. But also it's like kind of, it's blurry. Not to mention the other times where it's like,
Starting point is 02:22:51 you take significant damage, but you keep on going because you think this time I'm gonna, it's like, no, just get the fuck out of there. Get another robot. And that's the problem in every fucking thing. You know what I could do? These rules did not stipulate that he doesn't have limitless robot. You know where that's not a problem?
Starting point is 02:23:04 Where? Fucking Gundam Thunderbolts. Yeah. Oh shit, I'm hitting check. Get the fuck out. Yeah. Is great. It was great.
Starting point is 02:23:12 Abandon ship. So anyway. Abandoned this Gundam. That question took up like five regular questions. Thus ends. Fuck Mary kill pretty much forever. You know what? You're right.
Starting point is 02:23:24 Until next time. That's about as high quality one as we're gonna get. Like I said. Someone's gotta top it though. You can try, but you're probably not gonna. That was the hardest one I've ever done and I still want to take back some of my answers. Mine was pretty easy.
Starting point is 02:23:36 Here's one that is just a visual. It's just a license plate that says BORT. That's good. That's good. Come on. Delaware doing good work. Come along BORT. No, Liam doesn't get to see it.
Starting point is 02:23:50 I thought you leaned over. It's a license plate that says BORT. I thought. Sorry, I saw your head lean over. So I thought you leaned over. There you go. Support license plate. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:23:59 Okay. Uh, we got one from Allie and Allie wants to know, you know, we've talked to us sort of tales about the Waifu Wars, but do you have a favorite husbando from a game that lets you play as a female character? Not really. Duh, Warren. Hello. I really like Akihiko.
Starting point is 02:24:20 Akihiko's pretty much the go-to. Akihiko's a hot guy. That's the go-to. He's hot. That's his best. I played through Hakuoki and Norn9 and Code Realize, and no, not really. A lot of nice guys, but- My Fem Shep did not give a fuck about any of those dudes.
Starting point is 02:24:37 Yeah. Orchx, really. I'm trying to think of a game where there's a hot guy. Going stag against the universe. Pretty much. I can't think of any game that have hot guys and I control the lane. Enjoy your power fantasy much. My Fem Shep was all business, man.
Starting point is 02:24:52 That's a joke. I don't know. Can I say Kanji? No, because you can't pee. You can say Akihiko at best, but- You can't pee for Fem. But then you have to fuck Akihiko. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 02:25:04 Live. Live? P3P? I'll take P3P as an answer, and I agree. Yeah, Akihiko's hot. Akihiko. You're stealing Mitsuru's boy. You're right.
Starting point is 02:25:16 Bitch. You're right. You told me. You're dumb. No, you're right. Thank you. You're dumb. Okay.
Starting point is 02:25:25 So here's- They're not a couple. Here's an interesting thing. It's from Luke Harper. Here's an interesting thing. What? The wrestler? Yeah, it's still the-
Starting point is 02:25:32 It's from the wrestler. We tried to not say last names. Oh, because I just saw it and I was like, is it really him? I know, but I've seen cooler ones and I've not said them because they don't want to blow up private people's spots. There's probably a zillion of them. You can bleep that.
Starting point is 02:25:47 Bleed blooper. So here's something. Pokemon equivalent. Actually, fuck it. I won't even say the name. Playing through an older Pokemon game reminded me of a great piece of lore. Mach oaks and match amps, especially match amps,
Starting point is 02:26:00 are officially required to wear belts that limit their power because their natural strength is just too much. Beltless match amp confirmed for potentially strongest Pokemon, not even legendary Pokemon have to be universally nerfed for the sake of fair competition. No, that was- Cody has his handcuffs. Match amps have their belts.
Starting point is 02:26:18 I'm 99% sure that was retconned and the belt is just on and on. Not only was that the retcon, but that was- Because I remember that from the flavor text of the Machoke trading card, but I'm 99% sure that was retconned. Like, really? Well, hang on. Even if it wasn't retconned, that was probably written in like fucking 94. And since then, there's a Pokemon that's god.
Starting point is 02:26:41 Yeah. But match amp can fight god with the limiters released. No, at a time. RCS controls the fabric of reality. You can punch that? No, you can't. You can punch it real hard. With four arms and no belt to hold you back.
Starting point is 02:26:57 I train my match amp good. The real question is, how can you take the being that creates reality and slam it in a Pokeball? Well, that means the Pokeballs are greater than reality. The Pokemon know god. Pokeballs are god. That means that Pokemon can be defeated. If a Pokeball can do it, why can't a match amp? I still think Cody being the strongest, he fires the greatest thing ever.
Starting point is 02:27:16 A master ball can defeat god. Yeah, okay. He just chooses not to. What? This is like a Deus Ex Machina tech thing. You know what? It could go both ways. Because what it is, is the official Pokemon website posted this thing.
Starting point is 02:27:29 And this is what I was thinking of. What was that? Confirming that they don't wear pants. Machokes in the champs. Yes. That darker blue area on them, that's not pants. That's just their crotch. Yes.
Starting point is 02:27:41 But it doesn't say anything about the belt. So maybe, maybe not. Okay. I just like the idea of the official Pokemon site confirming whether they wear pants. That's not pants. That's a dick. No, we want to let you know. So maybe they do still wear the belt.
Starting point is 02:27:54 Parents, please be advised. Cody's the strongest in the pool. That is a dick. That's four penises. Yeah. Also, shout outs. I choke them. It's not an echidna, man.
Starting point is 02:28:06 It's a machamp. We got some info on how to unlock things real quickly in Pokken Fighters. Oh, that's cool. So that's good. That's good. That's good. This is good. This is good.
Starting point is 02:28:18 Um, cliches that you see coming a mile away, but you still enjoy. Name one from Andrew. All right. It takes a little, just a minute. It all depends on the execution. Because like, like a satisfying betrayal is good. When you're able to look at a character and be like, you're going to fucking turn.
Starting point is 02:28:39 And at the end of the day, if they do it really well, it's really satisfying. But if they do it poorly, then it's just shitty. So it all depends on the execution. Betrayal is boring to me at this point. But not when it's good. I guess. Yeah. When it's good, it gets you.
Starting point is 02:28:54 Right. There's, like, Michi, like Michi and Gaim was good. It feels so hard to make it good these days. Takes work. It's good. It's good. It takes work. Oh, there's two that I can think of.
Starting point is 02:29:04 I want to, like, go for something cheaper that's like, you're a sucker anyway. The rival battle. Yep. That's my answer. The rival battle. The rival battle's my answer. Mine's slightly more specific, but it's not the rival battle itself. But it's when the rival has a complimentary but kind of opposite move to yours,
Starting point is 02:29:20 and then in the last goddamn second, you have to combine both of those moves in order to beat whatever the real big bet is. I don't like that. Jackpot, man. Jackpot's great, but I don't like the combination, because I want sometimes the rival to be the end. Okay. And the other one is very similar.
Starting point is 02:29:38 It's when you see a character or a method show up to do a specific skill, and one at a time, every time, and then at the end, all of them get combined into a synthesis and do all of those things simultaneously. Oh. How'd you beat a repo? Yeah. Yes. Since I watch a lot of horror movies, I love calling it, and I want it to happen every time,
Starting point is 02:29:59 and I'm always happy when it happens, so that someone goes running off, and I go, your car's not going to start. Yeah. And then they get into their car. And the car never starts. And I get really happy every time. Yeah. Because it means they're dead.
Starting point is 02:30:10 But did you see that coming in Epo? When his car wouldn't start? I was actually thinking of like, I was actually thinking of like, Wonderful 101. Okay. But because I'm like, I didn't see that coming. I didn't see it coming in Hedgemano Epo until the first one happened. When the first one happened, I was like,
Starting point is 02:30:27 Well, because then it's already happened. Yeah. You already ran off and he got onto Wampo, and Wampo wouldn't start. Yeah, Wampo was like, Wolf Wolf. Your dick's way too big. The opposite. Elephant noise. The opposite for me is dropping the keys.
Starting point is 02:30:41 I can't fucking stand dropping the keys. Why dropping the keys? It's the opposite of the car won't start. It's like, you couldn't start the car. You get killed. Whenever the character drops any MacGuffin in a tense situation, you're reloading a gun and you drop the bullets. Oh, no.
Starting point is 02:30:57 And then you pan up and oh, no, it's right in your face. No, I don't like dropping keys. I don't like it. It happens really prevalently in Planet Terror. When the nurse lady is in her car, she's inside the car and she drops the keys on the floor. And I always get annoyed when I'm like, you're going to put your head back up
Starting point is 02:31:14 and in the side window of your car, whoever you're running from is going to be there. Yeah. And that always happens because the camera always follows her. The camera goes tight. It goes tight to show her picking up the fucking keys. You've got to do it.
Starting point is 02:31:25 The car should just not start. Don't fuck around with the keys. You'll need that metal man. That's how you know. Cars just don't start. No. That car broke. You need a Tesla.
Starting point is 02:31:34 The one that bugs me is reloading the shotgun drops the cartridges. That's the fucking one every time. That's very random. I can't remember that happening at all. When someone's like trying to reload a gun and drop bullets? Drops the bullets.
Starting point is 02:31:45 Like, not specifically just a shotgun, I guess. I can think of Terminator 2 and that's it. There's more. Someone in a movie needs to RE4 style. Fuck it. There should be a horror action movie that has every cliche every second. Like everything you can think of happens.
Starting point is 02:32:01 He's constantly dropping things. That movie is Hot Shots Part 2. Yeah, you know what? You're kind of right, probably. I like that movie a lot. Yeah. I was too young. I barely remember it.
Starting point is 02:32:09 I want someone to try to reload their shotgun in a car that won't start. They drop their keys. And the camera goes tight. They put the keys in the shotgun. And they put the gun shells into the ignition. The camera keeps getting tighter. Oh man.
Starting point is 02:32:30 So this has been coming in from quite a few, so I'll just pick this one from James, who says, I don't understand your dislike of Telltale games. Then you haven't been watching the channel. What's the Telltale formula you're talking about in the first Minecraft video? Like, I agree with you about the jankiness and stuff,
Starting point is 02:32:44 but I still enjoy the games despite that. I'm guessing I'm too easy to please and what's wrong with the game industry in quotations. That's quite a weird poll on yourself. Seems that you guys are going with the mindset of my choices don't matter, only when going into Telltale games, even if this is the case with most,
Starting point is 02:33:02 if not all, story-driven games, rather than letting each be an experience in and of itself. It's the illusion of choices, no matter. And I've answered this to like a couple this week. So we should get into it. Okay, so the first thing about a Telltale game is that due to the fact that you can't make an infinite amount of variables,
Starting point is 02:33:22 you need to eventually have the core game design focus in a diamond shape. It needs to start to widen in the beginning towards the middle part where there's the most variation. And then you kind of got to bring it home. You got to final it. It's got to funnel back to a point to launch off to the next episode.
Starting point is 02:33:40 The problem in Telltale games after episode one is that all of that is focused purely on how strong the writing is. If the writing is good enough that I don't think about it, that I don't care, if I see it, great. Walking Dead season one did that excellently. Yeah, Telltale's from the Borderlands also. I beat that game and I wondered whether or not
Starting point is 02:34:03 what my choices would do in Minecraft, for example, or I believe you guys ran into the problem in Game of Thrones. The diamond is obvious from the first time a person talks to you. You can see the entire fucking thing from the word go. Game of Thrones was also really bad because you knew since it was written into this already established world that we knew that literally nothing we could ever do will matter
Starting point is 02:34:32 because we're playing as jobbers that are not important. Now, based on the lore, and now you take that, where you have this diamond shape and that is troublesome enough in its existence. Like a lot of games do that. Telltale does that. But Telltale specifically will then have their other signature where it's like, and whichever one of the choices you go for
Starting point is 02:34:56 upsets somebody. Yes, no matter what you do. They'll be mad about it. So you have to choose between one of two things and you will upset one person. But ultimately, the problem that is about to arise, you trying to stop it with the right decision-making process never actually stops it
Starting point is 02:35:17 because the problem has to occur so that event will solve itself. That's not a writing problem. It's only a problem because it's been like six games now. Yeah, totally. And it happens consistently every game, almost every episode. So whether or not you put up the defense... It's not a defense. The writing's fine just after so many games.
Starting point is 02:35:40 No, I was thinking, I was trying to think of a specific example like defense inside where you're shuttered away from the zombies coming at you or whatever. Let's take, it's like, no matter what type of thing where it's like they hint at a problem that's going to arise for you and your main characters and you can try to take the steps you can to avoid having that escalate,
Starting point is 02:35:58 but the game won't let you because the problem has to come. And I think that one of the examples I go to that this is almost like a side issue but it still grabs the core of the problem is while walking Dead Season 2, there's a moment where you climb up a tower with Clementine and you look out at the distance and you see flashlights with strangers approaching your stronghold.
Starting point is 02:36:21 You know that bad guys are coming because you've encountered the freaks before and you know that they have guns and they're trying to hurt people. You then get down and walk back towards the house and you see Kenny for the first time and you have an, oh my god, Kenny reunion moment and then come promptly forget about ever telling anyone
Starting point is 02:36:37 about the coming bad guys. So that was a moment... So that the bad guys can sneak up on you. So that's a moment that then ends with that chapter becoming a gunfight where the bad guys are there doing their thing. And the fact that they showed you them coming means that anyone in their right mind...
Starting point is 02:36:52 You're not allowed to do anything about it anymore. No, and anyone in their right mind would not put, prioritize the reunion or any of that other shit. They would have won. There's fuckers with guns coming. And then again on its own, that's fine. It's a one-off issue but it happens in pretty much every...
Starting point is 02:37:07 Every episode of every game. Every one of their games. So there's always a moment where you're looking at your character and you're like, no, do the other thing. I mean also in terms of like us doing our, more or less whatever, jobs. I played Walking Dead season one.
Starting point is 02:37:23 I played Walking Dead season two. I played 400 days. I played Wolf Among Us. Now then I'm playing Game of Thrones. I couldn't even remember the name of it. The Game of Thrones. Is that everyone plays games in different ways. How much time is in between.
Starting point is 02:37:37 But that just made me burn out of like, these are primarily the same games. Like, yeah, Tazel Borderlands does some fun things. But they're primarily all the same. You get to see how the sausage is made. You just see the franchise just swaps out. About the sausage being made. And I said before, there's also the illusion of choice
Starting point is 02:37:56 and that some games mask it better than others. Probably Life is Strange has just as much or just as little as choices that matter. But I didn't mind it as much. I didn't see it as much. The main thing is just like why I'm kind of... I'm not done, but why I'm kind of like a bit... Telltale that.
Starting point is 02:38:15 Telltale games. Telltale that. It's just because there's no obfuscation. It's so raw. All you do is walk and talk to people and react to QTEs and that's it. So and like Life is Strange was a really good... It had a lot of really good things that fix that.
Starting point is 02:38:30 There's always stuff to look at and read. Hey, save Alyssa or don't. There's like interactions and like thought going into your time travel mechanic and stuff like that. Telltale's play is thoughtless. The time traveling itself is an active button. You can press to do things and see whereas most Telltale games don't have a button that...
Starting point is 02:38:50 Telltale's play is extremely thoughtless and it's not reflective of what adventure games ever were. And it's reflective of specifically what Telltale games are. It's just what got them really popular actually. Because it works. And like when you look at stuff like Life is Strange or Heavy Rain you can make that kind of thing work really well. But when you've removed pretty much every gameplay mechanic
Starting point is 02:39:14 and you just simmer it down to walk, talk, nothing, that's it. Yeah, there are moments in Life is Strange where the game kind of like stops moving forward and goes, all right, you're in control. What's up? Solve it. And go forward. And do whatever you want.
Starting point is 02:39:27 Telltale does that from time to time. Usually what? But there's almost nothing to do. But very few times. Now I will say like as a point here that Borderlands, Tales of the Borderlands is definitely the best of the formula games. Oh, have you played it? I've done the first episode.
Starting point is 02:39:42 OK, because I'm like three episodes in. I thought it was handled the best of the game so far. Besides the first game, Walking Dead? Besides, besides, well, I guess, yeah. But I like parts of Tales of the Borderlands better than Walking Dead. But if you go back and play Walking Dead season one, you'll like, you know, you'll see it again. Sure, you will see.
Starting point is 02:40:01 You definitely will. Which almost makes me think that like probably going back before Walking Dead is where you get real variety. Like back to the future and stuff like that. Back to the future, Sam and Max. Back to the future. You know, that's probably where you. Back to the future is all right.
Starting point is 02:40:14 Strong banful game for attractive FIFA. I finished that one. I think that. SBCG4AP. No, not that one. That's the most adventure game of all them all. So, Matt, it actually is. Would you say that the game that off you skated its diamond the best
Starting point is 02:40:27 would be Heavy Rain? I was, well, I was going to say I actually think it's until dawn. OK, until dawn is really good too. It's heavy rain. And men plus unlike Heavy Rain. Yeah, until dawn is a great example. So I'll use both as the same. Both of them have the same diamond.
Starting point is 02:40:42 They all have to have the same diamond, but they hide it. They both both of those games use the same thing. And that is the addition or subtraction of a bunch of scenes. And that's expensive because you have to have variable scenes, but it makes it feel like you don't quite know how the sausage is made in the time period. I had to play Heavy Rain like two and a half times before I really saw it. And you had to play or look it up until dawn at least twice
Starting point is 02:41:12 to really feel where it was. Whereas a good bit of deviation. The telltale games are so similar that we played like five of them. Well, it's not just how similar they are. It's how brutally linear they are, no matter like. And I know all these other games do this as well, but you're always just going from the same room to the same room to the same room to the same room.
Starting point is 02:41:33 And other games just, well, it's again, they just obfuscate it better. So when the timer disappears and we see two decisions, bend the knee or tell the White House tail fucker to fuck off. And it's like, you can choose one of these two. You have to pick one. We know that both of them are going to lead to your family getting shot up with arrows. So who cares?
Starting point is 02:41:54 The other thing is that like, aside from all the choices and stuff, that there's also the other little things about telltale games, like all of these games run not great. I mean, it's only maybe now like Game of Thrones still had problems. But they're starting to get there. I don't know how tales of the borderlines is better. This was like technical problems aside. This was just on the formula.
Starting point is 02:42:13 No, no, I know. But then there's like also the other reasons when you might get telltale that was like, holy shit, I'm sick of this engine. But this is more like around the time. The engine does have an effect on the formula because when you're talking to somebody and you say something and you see their character glitch out for a half second,
Starting point is 02:42:30 you know, you just changed something minor. I didn't think of that. That didn't happen until dawn. No, it did not. You're masked with how amazing the graphics are. Yeah. And we don't know the pipeline or the budget behind Life is Strange. But we do know that the existence of another game
Starting point is 02:42:46 that is in this style of adventure genre means that like the telltale problems and that same straight to digital kind of release. Yeah. Not like not like until dawn or anything. Means that the telltale problems can and should have been fixed by now. Like three games.
Starting point is 02:43:02 Yeah. Yeah. But they continue to exist. It's kind of absurd that they're still making games that play exactly the same. But I honestly think they should take like three years off from making any major releases and just make a brand new. Well, I think they can keep doing whatever they want,
Starting point is 02:43:16 but I think they should be working on new technology in the background. Absolutely. Yeah, I just don't think that they can juggle both at the same time. I think they can afford it. And think more about that book. They can afford it. I don't think they want to do it though.
Starting point is 02:43:26 Right. They probably have. Well, like just use Unreal 4. Just use anything. Like anything. Like when they have that giant whiteboard with the fucking post-its on it of the story flow. Just think a bit more about that and in terms of just
Starting point is 02:43:40 how people that know this are going to see it. Because that giant whiteboard, do you know what they do? Every time they change the name of the project at the top and leave the whiteboard the same. Unfortunately. Like, you know what it feels like? We can't get the post-it notes off the boards. We just got to reuse these guys.
Starting point is 02:43:55 When the Batman game comes out, like it. I forgot that existed. Hold on. It almost feels like the final choice as to whether how to get the information out of this guy going to the next episode is going to be break his right arm or break his left arm. Well, dude, it's Batman and Marvel license.
Starting point is 02:44:12 MCU. Marvel license. Remember? Yeah. Holy shit. Oh no. Everyone's on board now. Everyone's on board.
Starting point is 02:44:17 It's the filter. You know, drop your IP into it and something will come out. Unless they make some big sweeping changes or just like do the masking better or hire even like other writers. I don't know. But I don't like I'm actually getting worried because Game of Thrones is pretty close, right?
Starting point is 02:44:35 It's like this is a franchise or material I really love. Like I didn't read Fables before we played Wolf of Monarchs. And no, anything about Walking Dead really before I play the Walking Dead game. But the closer it gets to like Marvel and other stuff where I'm like I like these characters a lot. Like I don't want to get to that point where I'm not like in the games at all.
Starting point is 02:44:54 Want them to improve. They are money machines at this point. So they're not going to stop. So you're your your your concept of like just flavor it with this telltale formula makes me think of if all of this doesn't gel with you and or it flew over your head or it's whatever. Just imagine that the telltale formula
Starting point is 02:45:13 is near identical to like the Lego formula. Yeah. And that it's the same exact game every time. Or Musso. Every every every every other year. There's two Lego teams. Oh, every every year. When you hear that blank Musso is coming out.
Starting point is 02:45:27 You know exactly what it's going to be. Yep. Just change the name on it. Yeah. Musso is a better pick for that. Although Musso is like bad because I think I said it before is that there's certain franchises where I'll still go.
Starting point is 02:45:36 I don't care. No. But like no I think Musso is perfect actually because because Zelda worked great. Whereas a bunch of other Musso games didn't. And that's like Warlands worked great. Yeah. And like I liked Okato,
Starting point is 02:45:48 but I didn't like any other anime one. You know. Or like Samurai Warriors. That's what it is. And you know. And I guess like taste. There's no accounting for taste. The other bit here is that like it's like well doesn't every other story
Starting point is 02:46:01 that you experience in a video game go through these types of things. It's like well yes, but every other game also isn't the whole point is not just that story. You know what I mean. Like if we see the predictable twists and turns and dumb shit happening in another thing like I don't know Bayonetta or something. We're going to laugh at that and call that stupid. And then go back to playing Bayonetta.
Starting point is 02:46:19 Well it's also it's also a game. The story is the whole point. You're sitting there watching. It has to be on point. Like I said before, it's also a thing of like no other almost no other company releases the same game year after year with a different license and a different mini game. Well EA does. Oh different license.
Starting point is 02:46:38 Yeah. Yeah. Because like Tales from the Borderlands has the bit where you mess with Loader Bot. Minecraft has that combat thing in it. I think. Platinum's starting to get there. What do you mean? With with EA.
Starting point is 02:46:52 Sorry. I mean Activision. Transformers and. Cora is really different from Cora. Cora is Cora is Cora is not Transformers. But it's Platinum Combat mixed with your but yeah. But you're starting you can see sure. But I stand by what I'm saying which is no company's done it more than Telltale.
Starting point is 02:47:09 No. And it's getting real tiresome. Because the gameplay is not good either. I think this Lego literally has like you know what you're right. Actually Lego you know. But I think having played two Lego games in a row just now because I guess I'm nuts. I like it a lot better than Telltale. Well.
Starting point is 02:47:26 Because the gameplay is not like blindingly slow. Same here. I tested a couple Lego games and I played a few for fun. And I enjoyed the Lego games I played. But if we played every single one. Yeah. No that would tire you out. We would have a completely different tone right now.
Starting point is 02:47:40 Probably. There we go James. I hope that answers. There's there's no accounting for taste. I'll wait for Lego Berserk. It's coming next year. How is he going to hold that sword? He can't stand up.
Starting point is 02:47:50 Get out of here. You can. You could hardly. You could hardly call it a sword. It was just a big slab of Lego plastic. And just I just want to see a little Lego Griffith in front of the bleeding sun holding up the bailet with his little yellow hook arms. I wish I wish the Lego games went way more out there with their brands like Lego Jojo would
Starting point is 02:48:12 be perfect. Well you laugh. But I fucking got you that. They are Lego guys. I got you the Kubrick. That's true. Yeah. They're characters man.
Starting point is 02:48:21 They're on my desk. They're doing it. All right. What are you guys looking forward to? Lego Berserk. Yeah. I'm going to say Lego Berserk as well actually. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:48:32 I'm holding in my hands right now. What am I holding? Vagabond. What am I holding? I don't know. Oh it's spider. Vagabond volume 36. Nothing in my life is more important than this right now.
Starting point is 02:48:46 Nothing. The world can go fuck itself until I'm finished this book. I have like if you guys have seen him and you saw that I changed my Twitter picture to him. But Greg Rucka's run on Punisher where Punisher basically just looks like big boss. Where he's got the beard and the iPad. Yeah I saw that picture. I saw that picture. It's I'm reading that right now and I want to continue reading it.
Starting point is 02:49:09 I bought all three main volumes on my iPad and I'm really really enjoying it. It has the only female Punisher that's good. Remember I told you about that Daredevil Spidey bit a few months ago where Spidey sees this Punisher lady and she goes um let me think Punisherette. Punish that. I don't know. Don't say it. Don't say it.
Starting point is 02:49:31 Don't say it. So Frank I see you starting dating again. He's like oh no what is it. This is exactly that the parallel story bit from the Punisher's angle because I was reading a Daredevil comic or that happened. So I'm reading that and that's excellent. I'm really excited for the Punisher show to start on the 18th. Which is this week.
Starting point is 02:49:49 I've got my box of tissues ready. Yeah I'm excited for that also. Punisher show featuring Punisher. I was gonna I was just gonna say like quickly on Vagabond. Featuring Electra. What was that funny thing Pat said? He's like man I can't believe they spent so much time making a pre-season for the Punisher. It's crazy how much you know background work they did for it.
Starting point is 02:50:09 No I was gonna say on Vagabond real quickly that like probably the greatest thing is that the girlfriend took an interest and read through all of it and caught up on Vagabond and since it's so hard to just keep on top of when these things come out because it's random whenever they fucking feel like it. Now you have another person who just brings them here and it's like yay so relationship worth it. You bring me Vagabond. Just for this. All right.
Starting point is 02:50:35 Did you manage to get that Rio and Mibo by the way? I did. Okay good because if you didn't I'd be like what happened. No I did thank you. What happened yeah. I'm looking forward to putting myself into a Nyquil induced coma. That'll be fun. That's every week.
Starting point is 02:50:52 Well just you know you can always like go the Jackson route. Jackson is the zoologist to sit next to your bed and watch you. No it's the best night of sleep you'll ever have. It's the last night of sleep I'll ever have. Enjoy your glass. Enjoy whatever happens to you during the night as well. No I'm good. Matt and I started an unexpected LP today and I'm really excited.
Starting point is 02:51:15 Oh boy did we. I'm excited to start playing it again actually. That game was fun. I was having a good time at the end of it. Oh onto the channel stuff. Yeah yeah right yeah. I appreciate that fact that we are now in the garb age. Yeah that was a good name.
Starting point is 02:51:30 That was a good name. We have transitioned. And it's like that's what we're working on right now. More garbage. Enjoy the remainder of the Minecraft podcast. Yep the year of James Small has ended. We are now in the garbage unapologetic. Reboot 7.
Starting point is 02:51:43 Carrying that flag strong. Oh man. To kind of alleviate some garbage we already kind of announced in our magfest video. But I believe Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess HD starts up at the end of this week. Yes. Which I'm looking I have my copy and that's just been
Starting point is 02:52:00 sitting there. I want to put it in. Same. I want to put it in. Same. But I just want to. Put it in. I don't want to.
Starting point is 02:52:04 Yeah well. Just put it in. Why why is it that like the Matt Woolly Liam trio always has to be furry dick convention. Because you keep saying it over and over. It feels like that's every game that we play. And it's fine. I wouldn't have it any other way.
Starting point is 02:52:20 No. You turn into a wall funding. What do we play before Star Fox? No more heroes too. Sonic games. No more heroes too. Sonic games. No more heroes too.
Starting point is 02:52:28 Sonic games. There's another one too. Beautiful Joe. Beautiful Joe. Sonic games mostly. Sonic games. Sonic games mostly. Always Sonic games.
Starting point is 02:52:35 But Twilight Princess isn't furry kick convention. You guys ever do those good Sonic games? I'll play those. We did. We did adventure. We did Shadow the Hedgehog. What are you talking about? No I mean it though.
Starting point is 02:52:46 Adventure is great. You're wrong. Adventure is great. Adventure is trash dude. It's great. You're crazy. Too late. You played that game when you were like four.
Starting point is 02:52:54 No I didn't. That's the best part. I played through it the first time like three years ago. Yeah. And that game is great. Then you're nuts. You should go home tonight and finish it this week. No I remember it vividly.
Starting point is 02:53:05 It's terrible. No it was 1999 boy. Or you could play every Sonic game ever made all week and make a 40 minute video about it like some people we know. Bunny hop is crazy. Yeah it's crazy. He's crazy. Good video.
Starting point is 02:53:19 Good video though. Good video. That's the true story. That's the end of the day. So in case you guys didn't see I demanded that Bunny changes like end call sign to am I out of touch? No. It is the children who are wrong.
Starting point is 02:53:33 Did he change it? Did he do it? He's not yet. Yeah well. And we have to pressure him. That damages his credibility. Everyone pressures Super Bunny hop to change it. Hey Bunny hop use one of the most highly contested
Starting point is 02:53:43 copyrighted clips ever in your videos. No he just has to say it with his own voice. Oh okay. He doesn't know. No no that's crazy. I don't know. George is getting a little big for his bridges. No he's not.
Starting point is 02:53:56 George is building the Spruce Moose as we speak. Yeah hop in. I said hop in. Okay. The problem with this spruce moose is that it's very disappointing and can't capture my attention. Yes that's that's what's wrong with it. We've got heavy rain stream coming up next Saturday.
Starting point is 02:54:13 What is what is the day? This Saturday or next Saturday? This coming next Saturday. What day is that? What is that still? That day. It should be the 19th. You need to throw a number.
Starting point is 02:54:22 That day is the 19th. It should be the 19th. 19th huh? So not this Saturday the Saturday after this Saturday. 5 p.m. Eastern? No that's this Saturday. No wait. No.
Starting point is 02:54:30 What day? It's Monday. It's Monday today. It's Monday today. So it's this Saturday? It's this Saturday. The next Saturday you will live through. No it's called this Saturday.
Starting point is 02:54:38 This Saturday. This Saturday. Because you're saying next Saturday? The coming me. Coming Saturday. 19th of March. Yeah 19th of March. 19th is this next Saturday.
Starting point is 02:54:46 9 p.m. No it's this one. No it's this next Saturday. No. When you say this Saturday it means the next Saturday that happens in your life. Yeah that's right. When you say next Saturday.
Starting point is 02:54:57 Yeah. That means the one Saturday over. It implies that you subtract one of the Saturdays. No I misspoke. So this Saturday is the stream at the 19th. We're starting at 5 p.m.? Yes. That's 5 p.m. on Saturday.
Starting point is 02:55:12 No it's this Saturday. It's not. No. It's not next Saturday. It's this next Saturday. This next Saturday coming up. It's this. It's next Saturday.
Starting point is 02:55:20 No it's this Saturday. It's the 19th. It's March 19th. 2016. This Saturday. No. Yeah. No that's when it is.
Starting point is 02:55:28 Hold on. Wait. Hold on. If we you. This has been solved already by the Friday movies. Friday. Next Friday. Friday after next.
Starting point is 02:55:35 Yeah Friday. No. So that's what they're called. So it's this Saturday. So it's not this Saturday. There you go. It's this Saturday. It's not the Saturday after next.
Starting point is 02:55:44 It's this Saturday. It's this Saturday. Today is the 14th. Ah. Ah-ha. So six days henceforth. Yeah. Henceforth.
Starting point is 02:55:51 It's this week Saturday. Henceforth. Henceforth. Henceforth. That sounds cool. I joined that. Henceforth. On it's on the 19th.
Starting point is 02:56:00 Sense of right alliance. I'm going to play Heavy Rain. This is going to be good. Willie's going to play Heavy Rain. What's the plan for the taxidermist in the end? Well this needs no. No but like the. I don't care.
Starting point is 02:56:10 You don't care. I think the general plan. I'm not switching consoles midstream because that's a problem. Willie will play the game until he is tired of it. Yeah that's that's what yeah. And tell you what. It's not going to be one session. No that's so hard.
Starting point is 02:56:23 We're going to do the damage we do in one. Yeah. And then if the taxidermist thing is something then we'll just like. It's like a toilet or something. You do as much damage as you can. It's just the taxidermist like the reason I keep bringing it up is because like gameplay wise it's the most interesting area in any quantic dream game. Yeah sure.
Starting point is 02:56:39 It's a lot more open and there's a lot more stuff you can do. Because it's a pure. Can you even go buy that alone on. On PS3. PS3. You have to have the game. I think it's DLC. It is DLC for the game.
Starting point is 02:56:49 Yeah. Oh god. Yep. Okay. We all own a copy. We can make it happen if you want. All right. So next Monday.
Starting point is 02:56:55 You need to want to. No this Monday. This. This Monday. This coming Monday. The podcast will be back. After the Saturday is done. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:57:04 After the Saturday is done. They'll be the stream and then another day and then a podcast will be recorded. No it won't. And that. No it won't. No. There's no podcast next week. Comes out on Tuesday.
Starting point is 02:57:12 Comes out on Tuesday. Oh yeah. Okay. Well it'll be recorded on Monday. Doesn't matter. And then. Doesn't matter when we record it. We don't always record it on Monday.
Starting point is 02:57:20 Point is the podcast comes out on Tuesday. Okay. Even though you often actually put it out on Monday. You're confusing the people. Yeah. It comes out on Tuesday. Actually we've been putting out on every Monday for like the last two years. The official release is Tuesday at 12 p.m. Eastern.
Starting point is 02:57:34 Thank you. Next Saturday. Actually we're now on EDT. We're not on Eastern anymore. Daylight saving. Oh yeah what's that one stand for? Yeah Eastern daylight time. Oh yeah you're right.
Starting point is 02:57:43 Yeah. Even though the sun is going. Right yeah. Sucks. Means every video on the website got fucking pushed. And I had to go and. Manually rejigger it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:57:52 Good job Oli. You're doing a good job. So join us again next Saturday. Yeah. Won't you? Saturday. Saturday. Saturday.
Starting point is 02:58:00 Not Sunday though. 5 p.m. 5 p.m. Heavy rain. Heavy rain. Ooga. David Cage. August 8th.
Starting point is 02:58:07 David Cage. Shower scenes. Bad writing. Brash in the air. Brash in the air. Brash in the air. Brash in the air.

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