Castle Super Beast - SBFC 137: Bathroom Floor Grand Finals

Episode Date: March 22, 2016

This week on the Friendcast: Matt has Punisher thoughts, Pat gets rocked by Gundam violence, Woolie joins the Pokken Tournament and Liam IS DEAD.

So from Liam's grave, as he lies dead and buried, I stand over at shouting, about episode 137 is that the number 137, if you take a look back at the Bible, Psalms 137 talks about By the Rivers of Babylon, which inspired that song by Bob Marley by the Rivers of Babylon. Oh, they meant Babylon, the fighting club from Def Jam Fertinair. Well, that inspires everything. Yeah, coming into the Babylon. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I just like the idea of shouting esoteric facts at his grave.

I love that there's like a muffled voice coming from under the dirt. It's like, hey, what's this? Liam and I were both dead and couldn't make to the stream. Liam continues to be dead with a new challenger entering his mouth. That's one way to put it. Me and Liam were both just completely fucked to death with the flu the past week. Liam's mouth has fight requests on another disease is coming your way. That's also dying.

No, all you're coming back contain coughs like that to to your shirt. Yeah, OK. Yeah, that's what all I have is like that nagging like little shitty cough part thing. But Liam was getting that and then he got strep throat. He was got the strep strep strep. So his his throat probably looks like cottage cheese right now. Too much doorknob licking. Yeah, too much making out with weird things.

Yeah, shouldn't be practicing on those things. Liam, yeah, don't make out with a doorknob. You wouldn't make out with a doorknob. You wouldn't download a doorknob. You wouldn't make out with a cigar store Indian statue. So unfortunately, your amiibo. I almost swallowed it. Swallowed down the hatchman.

The whole amiibo. Oh, that's no, that's a different thing. You're tuning into not the hot glue. No, the cold glue. Anything. All right, it's better when it's cold. It's really not. Oh, yeah, colder when it's hot.

There's no way to apply the word better to that. Yeah, all right. All right. So the podcast is starting now. Here it is. OK, so you should start recording. I've started recording. Oh, no, it's the first three members of the best friends crew.

Yeah, hey, you know what? I got it in my hands. My coconut. Yeah, let's start with that. I got it in my hands. Yeah, you got it in your hands. It clicks nice. Yeah, it feels nice.

It feels like. Did you did you move the thing so that the I did differently? Yeah, it feels like a steering wheel. So what is the back currently holding an Xbox Elite controller? This is a hundred and fifty to two hundred dollar controller, depending what region you're in sound changes when you switch for the Xbox one and PC platforms. The best controller I've ever held.

It is without a doubt by the most high end by far good feeling controller. I don't even need you don't even need to press the buttons because I know I have mine at home and I there's there was kind of like a few friends that congregated there the other night and they're like some some of them were casual gamers and went here and they went. Oh, yeah. No, seriously, for real. Wow.

And I said, here's the regular Xbox. And they're like, no, get get away. Yeah, now I don't want to play. So the regular Xbox one controller, I'd call it a seven. I'd call the PS4 controller and eight and I would put this at an 11. Yeah, yeah. No, the way I'll put the weight is what gets me. Yeah, it's really heavy.

It's really a good weight. All right. It feels like an arcade stick made into a controller. The swappable parts are all really easy to pull off and on and you can and they feel solid even though they're swappable because you can you can feel the magnetic click when you replace the part and it locks in tight. That that shorter trigger pull is Godlike. I love it.

I absolutely love it. Yep. Yep. That's true, too. What do we got? I don't have much use for the little finger switch. But that's fine. That's fine.

It's not for us. Hair triggers, whatever you want to call them. But finger bumper. I don't know. But the options are great. Yeah. And just it's the texture is also it's this one to switch in the front. I that's for profiles on the PC.

Okay. So you you can customize certain button layouts. What I didn't know was that you also get this slick ass carrying case. When you when you open up the elite box, it's exactly like opening up a pair of beats headphones. Yeah. It's the same case. Like hey, hey, listen, brother, you bought some porn technology.

Yeah. Right. And you'll be able to control your best flash porn games with this controller. How do you guys feel about the convex stick tops? I haven't swapped it. I'm fine with what was standard there. I like my con caves. And I'll do a little switch.

Tell me what you guys think. I'm a fan of the standard as well. I don't like how the convex ones are higher. Yeah. It's the elevation really. But I can already see that's too. But there's an extra. But there's a yeah.

No, fuck that. I just know there's a different weight to it where it's like for a certain kind of game. It might not like the defaults. I like them like I if I was if I was going to play virtual pool. Yeah. I would want. Yeah, I can see that.

These heavier ones on it, you know, and then there's your super heavy, super tall ones. Now, the only thing that would be hilariously like tragic about it is if it had this like, let's say it was some sort of Halo or whatever special edition had this big dumb master face face, but he couldn't take off. Yeah. It was just something that you went on. No, not that really, really shitty art of Ken.

Right. Really shitty out of Ken would also the other thing about it is that it's a bit more subtle, but the bumpers are just better. They are. They are just better. Springs are improved. I can't. Is it the spring?

It's a better spring. 100% because and the the last said about the D pad, the better in the sense that you don't even need to go on about it. Yeah. No, it's the best D pad. Even even even the weird like circle D pad weird thing. I want that thing is like really good for specific for for D pads that are for for games that are like weapon selection for that.

Yeah, like that. That's what that's for and it works great for that movement. It's not great. So I'm always a fan of the Nintendo cross and like this to me is actually a step up and here's why this feels like they took a D pad and put an octo gate on it. Yeah. And that's amazing.

Yeah. No, you're totally right. You know, you're like you didn't ever need this level of accuracy on the D pad, but you have it anyway. It is a without a doubt one of the best controllers ever held. It is a fantastic controller. However, it is totally not worth the price. It is a hundred and twenty dollars.

Are you? It's it's two hundred here, man. Yeah. In Canada. Yeah. In America. It's 150. 150.

Yeah. Okay. I'd say I'd say I wish I wish overall like a hundred. Yeah, that's 100. Yeah. But like like more than twice as much as a regular controller. Like I'm sure it's like the care I bought one because I'm crazy. Yeah, I bought one too because I just saw it.

Also, you what I can tell is that even if the other controllers don't ever go this far again, you could get a really good middle step from normal controllers to in between. Yes, there's there's a middle by just replacing the material. Yes. Yeah, by having higher in materials. You don't need the extra features. Don't change the parts around.

Just replace the fuel. Yeah. How would you rate this against the steam controller? Yeah. The what controller though? The one that has no entry on the chart. Yeah. Yeah.

It's a zero. The one that that the bouncers don't let into controller party like club. Well, the real question actually should be how does this stack up against the poke and controller, which none of us have tried it. No, we haven't. But I'm very interested in getting my hands on one, but there's some stupid design decisions made with some fucking stupid. There's a destructed article today.

It says the poking control. It's a nice little thing like emphasis on little. So here, let me let me get straight into it then because like I'll take the week. Yeah, dude. What do you? Hey, woolly. Woolly got a brand new controller. That was his.

What did you do with your week? Well, of consequence, I played some poking man. Yeah, poking fighters. Is that out? What is that? How did you do this? I bought it on my Wii U and then I booted it up. Wait, it's out here?

Yeah. But not for like five days. I totally must think I think it was like three or two. I do comes out the Nintendo games come out Thursday. Yeah, I 100% totally. Yeah, it dropped and I really like it. Okay, it's not going to be for everybody. Okay, but I really like it.

The hard part to get to get around initially is the part where you don't know where attacks stop and start and you don't know where like animations in general stop and start. So you're going to feel like you're always in the middle of like attacking an ultra. It feels like an ultra is always happening. Furthermore, there's a really it's a very non traditional zoner versus non zoner style setup where I guess maybe it's just because I picked match up. I'm feeling it a bit more, but like it's really it can be really tricky to get in, you know, but yeah, you have a situation where everyone can zone a little bit in the field

mode and then when you switch to I forgot what the other phase is called, but the 2d kind of phase, it becomes more traditional fighter. Combos are there. High low mix ups are not really a thing because you have a block button, but you do have to worry about well, it's a block button that it makes just like a generic shield around you. Yeah, that doesn't really matter if you have higher or lower. Exactly what you're walking. What you want to what you're more so worrying about is attack speed.

So you have like quick attacks, heavies and then focus attack like completely 100% focus attack to the point that you can dash cancel out of it. Okay, and then throws as your your basic circuit stone cold stunner. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, man going online, play some matches. And, you know, some of those were on stream, and this is a game where you like on the stream we kind of like I went like, I fucked a tutorial. Let's just get into it.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, how would you compare this to Decidia? I never actually spent time. Okay, well, then never mind that question, but but yeah, I can see myself putting some time into this as the like almost like rising thunder replacement. Okay. You know, off fighter off fighter. Yeah, I only play like three matches, but I got the impression that I would rather have had stuck to one of those modes rather than combine both.

It's a yeah, I would have rather had the old the all field mode because I liked, you know, it goes like had light power stone sort of feel switching is hectic and very weird. I guess it's something you have to get used to, but it's part of the balance. Like it's deliberately making it so that, you know, whether you're on offense or defense, you're going to be switching back and forth between the two and like someone who can capitalize in one mode might not be able to do it in both. Yeah, you know, and it's the other thing that makes it a bit like when you're in field mode for some characters, like if you're just a child kind of playing the game and you're not really thinking

it gets a lot easier to just go like damage, damage, damage, and then you switch over to a motor. It's like, oh, fuck, now you got to at least stop and think a bit more. It's deeper than you think. Yeah, I got I got that impression, like you can mash stuff and cool stuff will come out, but there was certainly like there was fucking parries in the game. And the moment anyone knows what they're doing, you're not going to mash. Yeah, I don't think so. One other thing is that when I looked at it and I realized, you know,

Tekken team, there should have been like 50 characters. There should have been like 50 Pokemon like off the bat. This is from the Tekken team. They routinely put 50 characters in whatever like Tekken game you're playing. It's like, yeah, they couldn't. They could have just done that because when I was looking at the select screen, yeah, you have your what's the total number? It's like 15.

Oh, that's I don't think it's not it's not that high, but for a Pokemon game. Yeah, that's that's the problem. Yeah, and I definitely would have accepted a game with every character having half the moves they do for more characters in exchange because right now there's a ton of moves and is and like there's a ton of moves and like it's almost more than I expected and more than I want would want because you pretty much have like Smash Brothers style tilts on your your light, your hard and then your specials and then there's neutral as well.

So all in all, it's like I was expecting four normals for specials. Right. And that would have been it for Pokemon, you know, but they they went they went a bit further than that. So yeah, there's definitely and of course, though, the inclusion of more fighting types, whatever we've broken record at this point. Still great game. Um, it looks good, so good to spend time with good fun.

And yeah, as long as you think about it in that Rising Thunder off fighter mode, where no execution required when you want to take a break and, you know, do some shit and I want to have Pikachu do a electric wind godfish or Pika. Yeah, our Pika. Yeah, that's and that's a no execution to really think about. I really like that shark guy took. I forget the Pokemon's name because I just said fuck it to Pokemon made after the originals, but the shark guy took Sharkman, Sharkman was really cool

because he's just fucking exactly. I forget the name. Yeah. Um, yeah, uh, there and then like the heavy hitters versus the light ones. It's like, they say hachi in the game basically. Okay. Mokujin's in the game. Of course.

He's in the background just doing katas. Yeah. It's crazy. Now the Poken controller, however, from what I have been able to understand, like I got used to, I got used to playing with the game pad, but the Poken controller, it looks to me like perfect. It just looks like, you know, you're kind of super Nintendo-ish controller. We've seen it in the arcades before.

Except except a it obvious. So we know we knew already it only worked with Poken right now. Not only does it only work with Poken. It you can't even use it to navigate menus. Oh fuck off only for fighting and you can't even use it to start the game proper because there's no plus button on it. Oh, great. And you got to press plus to start.

Oh, that's that's that's super smart. So it's exclusively start the game normally with your game pad or whatever and then plug the control reminds me of the way Nintendo handled like the GameCube hubs. Goofy's. Yeah. Remember those those those controller hubs that you could plug in more GameCube adapters and a Wii U. It's like, hey, this is only for Smash Bros.

Fuck off like what? How can this not have more broad? Okay. Yeah, fine. No, no, no. It was really silly of them to do that. And I mean, I guess, you know, I think it's Smash Bros. That that's that's fine because one player just goes into it and then you can put on

the controllers, but but you know what I mean? Like for Poken, this is the Poken controller. It's a brand new controller rather than like adapting old technology like GameCube. So this is worse in a while. Well, what baffling? What I also it's what confuses me there, too, is kind of like you already spent the money on making the plastic. Why not just add the plus button and let it work with other shit?

Like your software is now shut up from working. No, why? No, we didn't design this to be played with our very few applications. No, plus the pro controller is better, but it might but it might work with some some Wii U issue. No, I know that, but the pro controller is better. So I guess they thought, I guess. No, you know what they thought?

They thought choices are fine. Yeah, don't transfer your save off that Wii U. Yeah, don't. It's the only company I know that would make an entire fucking like peripheral and lock it out from their own technology. Dude, you have the Pokemon Stadium plug your Game Boy game into this thing and use it and it doesn't work with anything else. No, you have no other application.

Nintendo. It's like back in the day when you're able to use a Genesis Genesis control in your Atari 2600. Why waste the plastic? No, waste it. It's for Pokemon. It's for these nerds. Yeah, one thing for Pokemon Smash Brothers.

They waste plastic all the time. That's I don't get it. Nintendo going to Nintendo, bro. Yeah, what else? What else? What else? You got bonus hackers going to hack, I assume. Yeah.

What else you got? Nothing else of significance right now. Oh, OK. OK, well, I blasted the level. Hey, Matt, what did you do with your week, Matt? I blasted through Punisher Season 1. I also blasted through that. I'm excited to talk about it in vague, vague, vagueness.

Yeah, I think when everyone is watching it, we'll see if we can do it. We'll do a spoiler cast. I have some general thoughts that don't have anything to do with anything spoilery. Really quickly, though. Yes, I do. Really quickly, though. Honestly.

I'll just say my piece on it. Is that overall, I think I liked it better than the first one. But I agree with you for different reasons. Like, I never thought they would make a better fight scene than the hallway. And they did. And Daredevil Season 1. They made two, in fact. They, well, yeah, don't tell me what the way you thought the second one was.

But clearly, one is really well known. I think they did, like, overall a really good job without having a focal enemy. Like, you know, Fisk wasn't the first thing. That having kind of just two random heroes, just kind of not random, but join in. They did a really, really good job. But there are some things that kind of annoy me. Like, Foggy is just. Useless.

They tried to make him more competent, but then they made him more useless at the same time where he actually just got on my nerves. You can just remove him from the whole season. Really do much. And when Karen starts being more interesting than you, is actually getting into more plot than you then. Yes, that's bad. But and as for everyone's been asking, what do you think on the Punisher?

I think that was a it was a really interesting take like on an experienced year one Punisher. Yes. But I'm so used to like doing a Punisher that doesn't tell jokes, doesn't open up to people. Yeah. So this type of Punisher, the actor fucking nails it. I think I think John Berthal was doing it. Really especially saying Shane from The Walking Dead. Holy shit.

Wait for that. Perfect. Perfect. And I had to really say. And guess what? You were right. And he just kills it. Crushed it. He has long ass monologues that are amazing.

Yeah. He was the best actor on The Walking Dead. Yes, by far. And he does an incredible job. You know, I'll leave the rest to the spoiler cast. I was happy with him. I'm John Berthal's portrayal as Punisher is fantastic. And it's nice to see somebody finally nail that Punisher is kind of a psycho.

I didn't know that they were going to go for baby pun pun. Like, what do you mean baby pun pun? Like like. Year one. Punisher year one. Well, he's starting. But I like I like that. Like, yes, this is the Punisher, but he also comes across as like kind of a vicious psychopath.

It like. Yeah, sounds right. Punisher is not a good person. I think that the I felt very conflicted about Elektra because the lady playing Elektra does a fantastic job. He does. And I'm not very familiar with Elektra from the comics, but I think her performance was exemplary. But I think that every time she comes out on onto the screen, the story just starts to

turn into gibberish because it becomes it becomes a bunch of nebulous, ninja based magic nonsense that's never actually explained ever. Yeah. And I mean, like the frag Miller invented Elektra. Yeah. And I am really curious to see if they well that justice. I think having having read the lecture on of Frank Miller, they did a good job with Elektra is not quite that.

But it's better than the dishwater that was Jennifer Garner. Yes. Dishwater. So nothing. Absolutely nothing like this girl. She's stupid hot. Right. Yes.

That's the main thing. And she fights super good. Her costume makes sense. It's not. Yeah, totally red. It's like it's just everything. Everything that character has to say backstories is kind of nonsense. And and you get you get you remember in it.

Well, in season one where Karen would would would leave a room and go into a start rifling through files. Yes. And then she would turn to talk to somebody. Yeah. And you just knew exactly what the next 15 minutes of the show was going to be. Yeah. Okay.

When Elektra every fucking scene where Elektra goes to Matt's apartment and goes, oh, Matt, to remember when we used to kick it old school and you go, oh, God, no, I'm trapped in this scene again and again and again. It wasn't that bad because there's a thing is that like that my one sort of like real thing I just like about Daredevil season one is because it was so much time spent on fraud where the money is going. Yeah. Who has the money follow the money trail housing developments investments and

all these words that should not be appearing in a superhero show. I at least that was gone from this and it was replaced with words like ninjas, mysticism, legends, murder, mass murder, but it's people trying to figure that stuff out, which is much more like involving and I like when believable words start. Yeah. Getting into the but not not two times in a row, though. Yeah. So for a second run, I'm glad you're not saying and I want to.

I want to give a big shout outs to what with Wilson Fisk and jail in the season. Frank has to pick up the the horrific gore and murder part of of the show and boy does he there. There's there's there's there's like a torches not has to do with Frank. There's a torture scene towards the end. I was like, woof, woof indeed. Yeah. Yeah.

They they I felt this was gorier than the first it was much. There's nothing quite as gory as the car door. It's Netflix so they can go. The car door was nuts, but there's way more of a horrific violence. OK, very good overall. Less but more frequent. But I mean, they're the other thing I was saying to Pat is that, man, there's so there is incredible fight scenes more towards the the first half of the show and there's still

lots more there, you know, good, whatever. But the show got so dark visually that I couldn't actually see what was there. There are some issues in which Daredevil, who is in a dark red, but actually mostly black suit, they're not the problem fighting a bunch of ninjas that are head to toe in black on rooftops in the middle of the night. Yeah. And Electra, who is also head to toe in black in which it's like it is actually difficult to see what is happening here.

Yeah. And it's weird because they're in these long wide shots where you would expect it to be easy because it's not like like crazy Nolan camera cut nonsense. It's not that. But it's like you think everyone learned their lesson. It's just like I cannot tell which one of these is Electra. I cannot tell which one of these is Daredevil. Yeah, that's that's where it got mixed up for me.

I was like, yeah, I can't solve that happens. But yeah, like I was happy with it. And, you know, whatever comes out of this Daredevil season three or hopefully, yeah, they left they left a bunch of big holes in that story. Totally unexplained spoiler cast is when we're all done when we're all done. Yeah, I am to be done with it. Hopefully by next week and by tomorrow if Liam's done too. Then what else you do this week?

Aside from that, not too much. I played a few things. I fooled around and killing some a little bit just to, you know, get used to these characters are going to change a bunch in this season three rebalance and stuff like how weird is it to see the combo breakers just flip you back out onto your feet? Isn't it? Isn't it odd? I'm still not used to it. Yeah, no, because it doesn't because it happens so infrequently.

But there was that I read a bunch of a garth in a garth in this comic called not a pilgrim or something is the not a pilgrim. And it was like, remember in Preacher, there is that old side story about the the eater of sins, the cowboy angel. It's like a character that's like that. Not exactly the same. But you can see that when he wrote not a pill, the the eater of sins. Or I always care what his name.

It's like ridiculous sin eater man cowboy guy. So he made this thing specifically because he's I really want to write more about like a horrible cowboy character. So he wrote this thing called like not a pilgrim, I believe. And I started reading through that. It's just standard garth. And it's like craziness and Irish drunkenness going on. So I read a bunch of that.

And yeah, not all that much else. I did watch a movie that I got. I saw that heavily advertised. It was at Fantasia. And we saw it at the we saw like ads for it. There are local movie theaters called Dark Places. And as Charlize Theron, Nicholas Holt, who played Nux. And oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that and a few other people.

Chloe Moritz, you know, from a hit girl and all that. Yeah. And it was like this dark thriller and like, you know, like, pretty like from the director of so and so this movie. I was like, okay, let's check that out. We watched it and it was like the weirdest dark thriller where there's a there's a family with a dark secret and she doesn't remember what it was.

That secret's super dark. It's super dark and it constantly flashes back from this family's dark secret to Charlize Theron as a as an adult and she goes around and she doesn't care about the dark secret. I hate this dark secret. I don't care. I survived the dark secret and I'm good and everyone else is like, no, like we got to figure out what happened.

Your brother was falsely imprisoned. No, it's a dark secret for a reason. The brother was played by the bald dude from House of Cards and the bad guy from a stamper. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, stamper. Yeah. Yeah, he's played by stamper. He's played by stamper and he plays his brother and he's like,

I don't care about the dark secret. I'm fine. I'm good in jail. Don't don't let me. I don't want to get out. I'm fine. I guess dark secrets to dark. And I was like, then why are we?

Why is the movie made? What is the dark contents? No, don't tell me. Tell me afterwards. I'll tell you afterwards, but it's not even that dark. Oh, no, because like if the secret's that dark, I want it to be like, actually, we're all satanic aliens. You know, no, it wasn't anything like that.

But like it was just okay. This is fine. This is a fine setup. And as it goes on and on, it starts over complicating the plot and then characters in the movie start getting this is getting too complicated. Oh, there's literally someone goes, what was I never I never thought the dark secret would have this many layers and it

was a real letdown because we saw we like, oh, we miss that at Fantasia. We're at a con really want to see that like great actors and it was acted. Well, it was kind of a huge mess. I was blown up, man. Who Chloe Moritz after after a hate girl in kick you know what you need to see crazy.

You need to see the trailer for neighbors to like, you know neighbors with Mr. Rogan, Seth Rogan and him and his wife and Zach Efron plays like this asshole college guy and they they have a war in between their house and the college frat. So she's in the sequel. She's in the sequel and it's a sorority this time. So Chloe Moritz plays drunken Bimbo, which she never like

plays that much and that trailer we saw in front me and the wife saw a Deadpool. She didn't see it when I went to go. She wasn't available. So we saw Deadpool again and she saw a trailer for that. We both saw it and I was like, Holy shit, great trailer. Really, really fucking hilarious and Chloe Moritz plays the sorority girl as the sorority house.

Yeah. And it was just I like, you know, trailers are weird, especially for comedies because especially like, you know, Rogan comedies. You can only cut out so much because it's usually dirty. Right. And just simple gags were funny enough. I laughed.

I laughed several times during show. So I thought I'll go and I've watched the first neighbors to cut out that Rogan filthiness. It's not an apatowl. Is it? Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's in there somewhere. Okay. Okay.

It's all the big one big one big apatowl pile. So yeah, one big apatowl. Do much else. Okay, I something I just remembered because I was like, I know I did some other stuff. But sorry, I was just thinking because I'm not going to talk about Gravity Falls until I finish it. So how far are you in?

I'm curious. I'm still in the first season. Okay. But just I'm waiting till is the first season has a real big pop at the end and big pops. One thing that I just remembered fucking steel ball run some cool ass shit is going down right about now for you. I'm at because like basically they there's a slow ass burn

until like powers start arriving. Yes. And when they eventually do, they're all the weirdest, most baffling, most bizarre they've ever been. Yes, but what do you know? I don't know if you know, but I know, I know tons. We I just dove into the JoJo wiki one day. Okay.

So my knowledge is is random because one of the funnest things about steel ball run is they're the reincarnations of old characters. Yes. And so and you get to see what they turn into what they look like and how they work in this other fucking world. Yeah. No surprise that Dio's in this world.

What a shit. But what he fucking little monsters gets slash his stand or whatever you want to call it. Yeah, because it's not even you'll never guess it. It's not is unguessable and it is ridiculous. It's it's it's super weird. You're talking about little monsters scary scary monster. That's a scary monster.

Yeah, great name. It's the most. It's so on thematic to anything was related to him before. Yeah, but it's so fucking cool. Yeah, because it's just simple. Yeah, it's very simple extremely. So you read about that. Yeah, I'm seeing some stuff.

It's like it's like that's a very on JoJo like ability. That's interesting. It is a single sentence and it is just white and it's it's so good. So it's not like and it's and it's it's like usually when you talk about that, you're like, oh, it's a crazy metaphysical dimension hopping like no, it's actually it would fit right in in like a Marvel comic book is blank.

And so anyway, I just I'm like I'm loving this. It's it's definitely if falling somewhere in the top three right away. A lot of people I've I've spoken to really like still ball run the but what I got to say about it is that it's embracing the word bizarre more than ever before. Yeah, as it should. Right?

Yeah, like Phantom Blood is even that bizarre. Phantom Blood was pretty weird when it was written back in the 80s. Oh, yeah, I guess so. I mean, you know, you know, and think about it. Your main character always has should have or generally does have some kind of normal heroish ability, right? And that continues like, you know, even though it gets

weirder and weirder as the parts go on, I would like to actually dive into that a slightly more because I don't think it's not spoilers. No, no, no, but let's like your main character nearly anything has the most basic power like a solid snake. Jonathan is a fighter. Joe Tarot. He's got the has the punchiest stand who punches and you

always get Joseph there. But yeah, but Joseph gets creative with the ripple. You always you always have your main character. Hero man have the most basic baseline and I like to use big bosses. Solid snake is the example. Yeah, because is what what's his deal? He's super good soldier.

He shoots really good. I have to power so that you can just easily alter it to beat all the super powered weirdos. He's Megaman balance. Yeah, Megaman. Right, but like even I know that once you get to like you start to see a piece of it in part four and you start to see a piece of it again in part five.

Yes, but then you get to part six and tusk is fucking seven. Yeah, sorry. It's yeah, because has a little weird because part four gets a little bit weirder. Yeah, part five even more, but still in the same family. Six is Jolene. Yeah, and that's like what? Okay, but tusk is weird.

Tusk is not a main character stand. There's no reason you would give that to your primary ability of Tusk is to shoot your own fucking fingernails off like bullets. That's lame. You're spit your fingernails rip off your finger and spin. That hurts and then you shoot them out. That's default baseline like what?

How is that the main character power? So they're embracing everything about. Oh, it does a bunch of weird stuff. I read up recently about what Jolene can do and I'm like, that seems super lame. No, that explains exactly what it like entails. I was like, okay, no, I'm sure that has because you because it's all yeah, because yet that's what it like any any good

manga will have that that thought that double think where you go. That's terrible until they get creative. That's a useless power. Who would ever want that? Oh my God. Did you see when they used it to do that? That's the best power, you know, and and I mean and I and I

hear weird even weirder things about soft and wet. I'll figure that out. Well, soft and wet removes frictions. So what do you do so that can do that? That's one of those like like that's one of those like I don't know. I don't even change the physics of reality powers that you could do anything with.

I touched your gun and now it won't fire. You know, like fucking goofy, but I will say that like in this and in part six with Jolene, there is like then there's that other side character who's got the main character style ability, but he's not got the spotlight on him. Weird and sorry even I talked about it when I when I first covered part six, but like there is a dude that is the Jojo equivalent of storm.

Yeah, that has weather control. Yeah, weather control and it is it makes storm look like a fucking scrub. Yeah, amateur hour. Yeah, things you could do with the weather. You just put your mind to it. Yeah, it's kind of like when Iceman was revealed to be like the most powerful guy.

But he was just dumb and not exactly. I never thought about how to use my ice car. I never thought about ice. Green Lantern when he's like, yeah, well, because what it's like, what is ice? Ice is not a thing. Moisture. It's absence.

It's removing heat, which is energy, which is absorbing man. Yeah, I got to touch this wall to remember that it's like a brick. What was that? But the absorbing man's power, which is like probably most OP power ever. It reminds me of that guy. Who's the guy you said who is really dumb, but his he can

just wipe reality. Oh, the hands. Okuyasu. Yeah, when we're playing all-star battle. Yeah, I was like, he can do what? You're like, no, no, no, but he's an idiot. He doesn't know. And like part of that is that when he erases the thing from

existence, the world requires continuity. So it's so it's so so space moves closer. Yeah. And so if he needs to like he's hurt and he needs to get over to a guy on the floor, he removes the space in between them and now they're closer together. Like you could do anything. That's the space equivalent of the world.

You can fly. You can fly. You can go anywhere. But he's an idiot, but he's dumb. So he doesn't know. And I love him. He's the best and you're going to find out more soon because the part four trailer is now available.

Can't wait for part four. Part four. Says Scarface. Oh man. Part four is a good part. What'd you do with your week? So I played I played a game. I played the division and I have very different thoughts

about what Liam said. So it is very much like destiny and I understand his his fatigue with its setting of like the New York modern military thing. That being said, I really disagree. Like that New York is gorgeous and perfectly realized and a drop engine and it looks like just wandering around it and like being there is fucking cool. That being said, like that game is a totally okay to good

average Ubisoft do the do the things on your map better than most. Yeah, it's it's a God day. It's closer to Assassin's Creed than it is to real and Tom Clancy. Why? Yeah, like just just in terms of like map garbage. You know what I mean?

Like you look at the map and just do it to do and it's online only doesn't need to be online only you very rarely actually group up with people. But shooting is fine and like I would call it a podcast game where I will gladly plug away with edits while listening to a podcast and filling out the map and making the numbers get better. A lot of Ubisoft games.

I would say it's totally average to good. What I think is way more interesting about the division is how fucking weird every part of its setting is it is like Liam totally undersold it because okay. The setting is Black Friday some shadowy ne'er-do-wells put a new type of smallpox on a bunch of dollar bills that you and Liam have had and and spread them around Black Friday and that caused a massive pandemic in New York and then they had

to quarantine it off, right? So you're walking around in the game and it's the winter and the Christmas decorations are still up and there's no timeline given but it appears to have been maximum like a month since this happened, right? Society has completely fallen apart in like immediately. I believe I've read about how fast that would happen if everything went bad and it's way quicker than so like that

like but even just like the level of destruction on display in the streets. Okay, if buildings are toppling over, but the amount of rats cars in the street like alone, but that might be more of a video game sure because that's the thing is if it's just people dropping dead and exploding or whatever. Yeah, abandoned cars. Totally.

That would happen. Yeah. Totally. It but there's there's the other part that's weird and that's the enemies. So how do I explain this? There's a decent kill screen article about this that goes a little too far in a few places, but it gets the general

just if you want to read more about this. So there's four factions, right? There's the rioters, which are dirt bags and hoodies and baseball caps and like the the the hoodies the shirt pulled up over the mouth. Yeah, there's the cleaners, which is apparently every remaining sanitation worker in New York. That's an awesome group decided to burn out the infection

by slaughtering everyone with flamethrowers. Wow. There's the Rikers, which are the bad. They're the escape. The Rikers. They're the escaped convicts. The Rikers. From Rikers.

No, that's just the same. The Rikers Island, they'd be isolated. And then there's the last man battalion, which is like a pseudo PMC, which is made out of like doomsday preppers and like right wing, like gun nuts that were like just one of these days, man, it's all going to go to shit. And like they were just ready for it to go bad. They got their girl bag, but the rioters are so weird,

man, because the rioters like you'll be walking down the street and the rioters will just be chatting and they'll ping his enemies and they won't be doing anything. You just blow them away because they're they're like and you see these these see videos of like the rioters are beating up before you and they're like mad. You are a part of a super secret constitutionally not okay. Patriot act kind of super soldier secret super group like

Majestic 51 or something like that, the division. So like you'll do these guys, these rioters aren't rioting. They're just standing around on a corner talking. So they're the loiterers and they happen to have guns and they'll shoot you if you get close to them, but you don't do that. You just park behind a car and bat, bat, bat, they're dead because they're marked because they're marked and the part

that got me and it was really bad because I read it in the article and then I saw it happen. It was like this is really weird. So there's rioters quote unquote that are looting a electronic store and you can hear them and they're like, oh, there's nothing good in here and you go in and they're not going for TVs. They're going for like like circuit boards and equipment for

whatever and you blow them all away and you get experience like yeah, you stop the rioters from looting that electronic store and then you loot the electronic store for your own material and it's okay because you're because you're the government and and then and then you see then you see like people fighting in the street for scraps and they're like willing to fight each other, but then never comes blows like no, those people aren't rioters and you see people trying to break into cars like

no, they're not rioters, but those guys, the little enemy thing popped over there. They're right. It's because they're holding their cards that say we're the rioters. It's so fucking weird. Okay, it is so weird that disconnect like they might as well be called looters and it like and just the disconnect of like

scavengers and they're okay the first the first time you run into them. There's a guy and he has a hostage and he's going to kill him. You're like, okay, well, that's a bad guy, but the second one the second mission you have to do as part of the tutorial. They say, hey, there's morphine that dropped down in a place that's under rioter control.

You got to get down there. We've got people back here that need it and those rioters they're just going to sell it or use it. And I go and I and then you get to them and they're like, yeah, we need we need the stuff and you shoot a guy and he goes, oh, they got Alex. So equivalent. I was like, wait, wait a second.

Yeah. What? Yeah. This is yeah. This is stupid. It's like like there's no way to get it. It just feels it and they're like, oh, it's all the street gangs and all the ne'er-do-wells in society all just grouped

up and became and it dude. It's so weird like and I think they realized parts of those things were weird because like there's even a there's even a throw a line that you hear on the TV. I'm like, well, the Rikers guys, they escaped and you know, they got guns and they're there trouble. Get careful those Rikers and the guy actually on TV goes like, well, I'm not saying that everyone that at Rikers Island

was a vicious murderer. But the 10 but the 10% of those that were are here with us now and it's it's it'd be funny if instead of like being from Rikers Islands, they just all have beards and play the sax and that's why the gang is named. So and it's like I get it remember 10 points for dumping their bodies in that in that fire while impaling it on a start a stop sign and and the and the other thing is like

the cleaners is so weird and like it's even more absurd cool because the cleaners is just like the entire New York City Sanitation Department just decided to become a bunch of psycho pyromaniacs down Trot and no, they're a bunch of blue collar working men that all speak with Italian accents. That's great. And the leader their leader is Joe Farrow. Okay.

And it's and it's it's super like there's a weird class warfare undercurrent because I was gonna say like I can see that like getting a weird like we will cleanse the hordes but no everything must be clean. It's like, hey, Jimmy, how's the tank? Yeah, the tanks holding good. It's real to go. Don't drop that tank will burn those rats out of that and

it's it's it's dude like that game like I can see how it would be made and like we need enemy types. We need this and then never looking at the big picture. But when you play that game, the big picture is fucking weird. It's so cultural content. Yeah, no, it's super it's super crazy. The other thing that I did is that I finished mobile suit Gundam.

Hey, so so that that Caecilia is it that moment like she's got a good head on her shoulders isn't that one of the most shocking unbelievable things to imagine being on TV back. So I have seen that clip over and over and over in other contexts for like 10 years and I never knew what it was from and all of a sudden I see Char in a suit in a space suit. Yeah, with the bazooka and the pieces start coming together

and I'm like oh that's so that show it. Yeah, mobile suit Gundam from the 70s has some severe monster of the week problems in its second half where like just mobile armor after mobile armor that are all just boring things. The big the big Xam is the ugliest fucking thing ever. And again, this is why the movies exist. But then when they finally get there and we're talking about new types and like Lala every Lala sucks fucker and just like

it no Char and Amuro they're going to duke it out and they have bro here's a sword they have one of the most fucking do it with swords knock down drag out to the end like duals I've ever seen like both of their mechs just get torn to shit now let's continue this with guns now let's continue this with swords not like the the the you know jumping out of Lagann into a ball thing before fuck that like come back to this mobile suit Gundam ends strong real strong and I have

something else to say I was going to say that all the other things that wing never had no that moment I was talking to my friend as we finished it's like this is from the 70s and this is like poorly made and and like the oldest shit and we're enjoying it so much more than we enjoyed wing and actually I enjoyed it a hell of a lot more than I enjoyed 8th MS team because here's here's the thing Char is a compelling ass character.

Yeah, he's great. He's good through and through and through the I really enjoyed how fucking weird it got with all that new type psychic shit and all the weird 70s filters and stuff like that though once you know you know what that noise once you've put in new types into your story you're kind of stuck with them because they're invincible they're not well sure but from what I've seen so far right now they might as

well be okay right because they you get to a point mobile suit Gundam where they're like well the only thing that can kill a new type is another new type we need more new types well and it yeah I better believe people try to and then my other statement is that man Camille is a girl's name and him losing his mind and attacking people over it okay so you had no downtime dude no it's like we finished it and it was quite late it's like we need to watch the first episode of

Zeta okay because I want to see you want to know I want to see the jump and the jump is big the jump is seven years in terms of budget animation all that and it's it's like the end of mobile suit Gundam which looks like shit compared to the the OP of of Zeta is like but like and I love they they have that shot of like here's all those surviving cast members and they're all adults now and time passing for people but like here's our new main character and our new main

character is a stupid idiot Camille what's his last name Camille he is he is a brat like he's a brat Camille isn't like come on you have a girl's name all fucking fight you and get arrested and then fight an MP and then run away and crash a car and like they tried to pull that same same thing with shin in Gundam see destiny and it just falls apart but Camille as well more but more importantly like in that first episode I only watch the first one he comes off like a crazy

person I don't remember how much of the Titans very little they they don't talk about the Titans at all okay he punches one in the face cuz yo yeah that's that's the new word now the fucking Titans and the EUG yeah yeah yeah yeah but okay alright and also when you when you watch these things like bam bam bam bam you get to see that the first episode of Zeta is like a near shot for shot remake of the first episode of Mobile Suit Gundam in terms of like Char's in a red robot

and he's sneaking in the air ducks and he's taking photos of robots and now the thing to here is just when you're saying like the the the climax of the shower versus Amaro is like amazing and it's like that's the end of chapter one yeah I know yeah it's like that is not yeah I know so that fucking rivalry is sailor is sailor mass in Zeta sailor mat you'll sailor mass is not done cuz I don't want to tell you well cuz she's not in the intro but she's not in the OP and when I noticed

that and saw that like Amaro's in the OP and Kai's in the OP and stuff like that and I was like oh no we're sailor at aw man she's great sailor's not good that's all you need to sailor's great good good good good good good I'll tell you right I'll tell you what though like you'll probably blitz through Zeta as quickly I think yeah cuz Zeta's fucking great dude the animation jump is just like then you're gonna finish it and you're gonna get to double Zeta yeah and then

you're gonna know that there's no reason to continue you can you can just stop you do not need to watch double Zeta oh I don't need to watch a little Zeta need to watch double white why is that you can move right on past the Zeta it's one of those huh we'll have the conversation I this I should just start watching double Zeta now okay we need to find out I need it no you don't you really really don't yeah cuz like cuz I like I feel like you're like a little deer I need to

know I feel like I'm holding out the little food and I'm the feeding the deer yeah if I make a noise or startle you you're gonna jump away and print back into no I mean I need it no I need I need all the bad with all the good eat the little food I'm holding out of my hand hey will they never show I didn't I didn't download those compilation movies for Gundam I watched the whole series all the shitty episodes I wanted all of it you I need it all I get it I get it we need

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seriously what's wrong with it it's a piece of shit it's just bad just top to bottom it's about the car every character is annoying it's about nothing interesting and it just exists because they need it to continue selling toys okay and then while it's being shit it's officially part of the timeline so you kind of need to know and no you don't but it starts pulling in characters that are significant from Zeta and it's just so just tearing them up and just everything about anyone

you like you're gonna like it Zeta is gonna get shit on super hard that happened that happened in Gundam when like Mariah fell in love with the man who just beat her every episode you forgot about that huh slagger he just back dude all he does to Mariah is hit on her and backhand her and then he dies and she's like I loved him so much weird ass dude that's a 70s man 70 oh my god I almost forgot to before we completely move on from that Rambo row Rambo row Rambo fucking

row just like out of like right like that that jobber from 3040 episodes ago like he was super important what and his girl and fucking anyone who's got anyone who's got their hat tilted a little bit to the side man that 80s girl that 80s soldier woman look is just it's intense dude yeah our 70s I should say I really appreciate it in Gundam the amount of people that were horribly murdered directly on screen by having like fists going into their nice transition there

because I was about to say that's the other thing is yo she's oh the CEO or whatever just it's and it's always these weird things where it's like they're in a plane or something and then a robot just punches the cockpit straight through and you go holy shit did that person just die and they don't talk about it for like five minutes and then the funeral is happening and it did that that was it and you're like whoa whoa it's war no prolonged like I get to live a little bit longer

because I'm in put nah nah your cockpits gone nah there's a fist there now I'm gonna use a solar beam to wipe out like a million people yeah those guys are dicks you know what I didn't expect near the end of Mobile Suit Gundam the villains talking to each other and having a discussion that goes like this son you're crazy have you ever heard of a man named Hitler Hitler huh who was he he was a man who couldn't see the times is like I will show you this power of Hitler walk

out but Hitler lost son and like whoa that's a weird conversation yeah you need to go read about Tommy now he's he's got a lot of dark things inside him and he uses anime to get it out I gotta get it poison out and he tricked a toy company yeah into using their their toys as a vehicle to get the darkness out that bazooka decapitation is so graphic I can't believe it and it's it's it's the foot that flies from right to left that really makes it it's her boot that just

shoots across the screen in the other direction all right let's let's roll into the news shall we what you know what I love about this podcast so far the whole time we've been doing this will he has been like sex fondling the fucking Xbox Elite controller he doesn't want to he doesn't want to forget I if I had to make out with a controller I'd find a way well I'd make out with a like a five foot tall like woman shaped controller yeah I could choose yeah just give me a

DDR mat yeah yeah it's got all the flat and flat all the feet terms all the feet juice all the feets yeah what's our news speaking of feet juice hold on feet juice no there's nothing no I can't that was an unwinnable that was an unwinnable but you know what you know who might be winning maybe what the easy allies yeah I saw this guys these are the people from game trailers that

recently lost their jobs due to game trailers becoming a smoking hole on the ground so one might say that this is kind possibly like the giant bomb yes something like yeah trailers that was the giant bomb from GameSpot I should say game spot yes so yeah easy allies they're on a Patreon that's the dudes from game trailers they've got a YouTube they've got a Twitch and they've got a site and they're basically back and I'm interested to see what well shit continue putting out a

podcast certainly sucked on my my accidently sucked on it for a minute they plan to put on a podcast and basically yeah just keep stuff going all that feature if you're a fan check them out is Michael Bosman over with that group I believe I think the group is like six dudes and you can tell me because I don't know them by face the only the only one that I am that I know like even relatively well is Michael Bosman because of his show the final Bosman yeah which is a good name it's the best

name but as long as it has like some style of game trailers retrospectives or pop fiction I'll check that out I don't know if it'll be as dead on as that but I think it'll maybe can they get Michael Pachter in there to say things that don't happen yeah you can always get him to do that he's he's busy making money for people but Jillians of dollars yeah by saying things that don't happen yeah that's cool glad they're all doing something like you know so often these things happen

everyone spreads everywhere yeah usually usually the nightmare scenario is like whatever happened to those guys they manage this the call of duty community forums now yeah like and you just want to die what happened to the to the director of Shadow the Colossus he manages the call of duty forums yeah he works at a Konami health club he's super ripped now actually that's cool what else that's cool what else we got we got the official official collaboration collaboration

between Final Fantasy 14 and PSO 2 huh yeah and yeah it's super weird it's super goofy I think it's just items yeah it's probably it's probably going to be like items and like maybe a theme like day or something like that but it's like you know that that all if that's in game in both games then that will be part of PSO 2 coming to the West they're trying they're trying to never really did that much together officially I don't really know you're gonna one day your client is going

to update and it's just gonna be PSO 2 yeah your ff 14 and then when you log into PSO 2 it's gonna be it'll all be banned from the server for having a North American IP address that's true fucking PSO 2 is such a joke at this point man now heard about that I'll tell you what's not a joke the price of the PlayStation VR in fact it's exactly what it should have been man every pull everything ever is like who's gonna win the VOS Sony Sony because it'll cost three fucking 99 I forgot

which one of us called it but one of us did call that the multiple price point possibility I believe I believe all of us did I think we all agree I think we all agreed that 399 but there'd be like a bundle that included the camera for 499 yeah and it was also gonna include the the move controller something that kind of worries me is that like after GDC or like an event or whatever you know shortly after hey good news this is this is this price and it's good and I kind of saw a

few previous for some VR games like up until dawn from Russian blood and then a couple of others and they all said these games suck and I'm like oh okay this is a rail shooter and that's all it is and I'm like oh okay obviously I haven't played every single one is one really good game that's all it does but VR owners like dude like I think rigs is really cool yeah the rigs thing is and I think that I think that whatever that that shooter game where you're in the car is that London

whatever London heists if you want to know all about the best station products just take tune to Liam's Twitter yeah yeah is there any plans for PlayStation VR support with the Vita for I really think it should be brought over 500 us is what Canadian like 6000 650 I think give or take maybe 7000 okay I think it's around 650 maybe 700 something that it's it's pricey but it's it's it's the highest low point anyone was going to be willing to pay that's a normal person and of

course only being the last one to announce the price just big advantage anything you and it's going to be coming out in October you're going to go on the high ends me yeah I don't have the camera I don't have the way I had a what high end bundle yeah I don't have the camera or the move controllers I have both that game that being said like I don't think we're going to be able to get those I have a strong suspicion that they're already sold out yeah unless like when I checked

Amazon without like talking to some friends when I when I checked Amazon they were like hey this is when pre-orders were open and it had a specific date and time which means that like that shit's gone in one second sorry clearly going back to what I mentioned about until dawn from rush rush of blood is that I was reading this destructive article and that's what it said like this game's not just a rail shooter yeah when I say rail shooter I mean literally it's on a rail on a rail and a rail

cart in a mine cart and a Mike yeah yeah that's right that's what the game is the sometimes you should just double down yeah I know if you're like if you're a first person shooter just be in a rail car the entire time the other the other high end Sony product that's being rumored right now is the PS 4.5 so Patrick I'm much more excited about the prospect of Patrick Colopic from Kotaku says that a source told him that that they're totally working on this and this would this

would gel really well with like Microsoft saying that we might do an iterative Xbox right and but no one's actually done like a it's more powerful yeah except for Nintendo with the new 3DS so what they're pushing right now on the rumor mill is that it's going to be able to run games at 4k which requires the game to be to be outputting at 4k yeah games that exist that don't output at 4k are going to be pointless while they could be upscaled or fucking whatever but but the hardware

itself might be better this thing should for the PS this thing should be called the PS 4k that sounds like a slam dunk if it could also potentially include some of the the fucking PlayStation VR guts inside it here's the thing though what's just like we said with Microsoft are we heading in a direction of iterative console so he like I've been thinking about this a lot right because so what and then and if so why is it okay here but not okay with Microsoft's version of

this so here I've been thinking about this a lot and if everybody was doing my iterative consoles I'm of two minds about it I upgrade my PC I spend money on video cards and RAM and processors because I want to extra power right so the idea of upgrading your console to have better looking games or games that run better that makes sense I can get that but here's the the the way it breaks down for me and that's if I could say buy a $400 PlayStation 4 every two

years and games looked really good and ran really well I would do that in a heartbeat I might even stop upgrading my PC if I could be guaranteed that like games would look good and run well for how much sorry for $400 every every year or two years right just just literally really years much two years right wow are you hold on but that's not what we're gonna get is it what we're gonna get is like I would I would pay that for a strong console every year I am so not

okay with that but that's we would never get that we're never gonna get that what we're gonna get is every year there's a slightly less weak console that comes out compared to a PC right like if you told me hey man that the PlayStation 4.5 it's gonna run games like twice as fast they'll run it 60 or they'll run it at 4k and and no frame drops or whatever like that might have value but that's not what it was gonna be it's like hey you're gonna have like like the new 3ds a

marginal improvement in frame rates it's like me a dramatic I'm not gonna get mad at new products and options existing as long as I'm not punished for owning the console that I hold on now yeah that's my only and I don't think you will be up until a certain point up until like then it and it should be a reasonable turnaround I think I think the only time you get punished is like three or four in right three or four new revisions and revisions and you mean and it's like you don't

want it like whatever like let's say games come out and they're like look there's gonna like this is a real thing you don't want one to say only runs on PlayStation 4.5 and then that game is useless to you unless you upgrade or that the 4.5 doesn't really like you know pan out that well then like let's say they stopped doing it and like have a good uptick in sales it's kind of like when remember who made the Fantasia bullshit game the Fantasia music game that used

to only connect like that kind of screw them over quite a bit and stuff like that you just don't like it fractures your fan you like your your your fan base imagine if the we muddy imagine if the we basically released a game pad that was like it works with we games that's what they did but but but like that actually just the game that working with no that's what they did that's what the Wii U is right anyway now but what and then after I said Liam what Liam actually

means and then after the game pad existing you then get a slow upgrade and they'll eventually more games support the game pad and less games don't use the game pad and then they go here's a new box. Well first of all the Wii U should have just been the Super Wii that's what it should have been called. Yeah. Yeah. No one can no one can stand up to the might of my Super Wii. I just I'm I'm just I'm not I'm not I'm not looking forward to a world where like yeah you

just get you get blocked out like plays better with PlayStation 4.4 or yeah or like your game will run but it'll barely like like I think that's very likely and I think the future in which look it's the upgraded one and I look at that and go you're upgrading shit. It's not enough like you're upgraded one that you're charging the same price for two years later it should be twice as strong it shouldn't be like like oh it's got a 10% improvement in frame rate or what is strong

isn't it. Yeah couldn't you just patch that point. So you just want to see if you're going to use the iPad model upgrade them like you do fucking tablets and computers and what you actually want is just faster generation turner. No no he wants the expansion pack. No it's shoving in your PlayStation if you if you want to sell your new if you want to sell your new boxes like their video cards they should improve at the same rate video cards do. I think like it's not out there. No no but

way that model the model of like continuous improvement is the video card model and or the tablet model or whatever and if that's the model you want to come exist in then it needs to improve at that rate also but it's not and of course keeping in mind that the video card cutting edge is for 0.0 percent of the population but like you don't you don't have to improve it to the same like a level but you should it should jump the same distance right like you if they come out with

a PlayStation 4.5 and Xbox 1.5 or whatever the fuck it would be called. Three years after those consoles have been out you should see three years of technological improvement and then that makes your problem worse because then all of a sudden any game that actually uses any of that extra power wouldn't be able to run on the old one was you're describing it you're also describing a different dev kit you know I mean like exactly not a that that's why Pat's right and that it

will be a marginal like tiny if you're gonna see if there's too much complication if you're gonna you're gonna somebody if you want me to read up on your device again for the improvements improvements better fucking matter and I seriously don't I can't see them actually mattering and that's a weird bummer but I like the idea of like PlayStation 4.5 or Microsoft Xbox one but whatever because it's so fucking 90s like smacks of Sega CD and we like 32 X we've stopped

but it's never gonna it's never gonna look like that you're never gonna have a box with another box I want a PlayStation 4 with a smaller PlayStation 4 slapped on top and we've already had a situation like this last generation and this generation but nobody noticed like remember what happened remember when people like as the generation went on remember the Xbox 360 did not have a required higher drive but remember like late in the generation people were still playing

without hard drives and you intended to notice the games were certain games would just fucking die to shit if you tried to run them without a hard drive like Skyrim would just like it wouldn't fucking work properly and how apparently Hyrule Warriors on the on the old 3ds is a slide show yeah compared to the new 3ds really yeah apparently it's a fucking slide show so like that situation has already existed it just wasn't as like pronounced yeah well I know that the end

skew for the Wii was way different from the starting yeah you know the yeah so like I like I would be up for the best version of this but we're gonna get the worst version yeah you're right it's too complicated to make the best version like if I could just like oh I can always get a powerful box for $400 a year right and it'll always be powerful and always have good image quality all that yeah I would stop upgrading my PC and go back to just playing

console games I want to slap more modules but that's not ever gonna happen no man so no you don't well then get it like this in VR because that's what that is mirror so speaking of the worst version of man oh man boy oh boy well we've got a we've got a couple different couple different places to take this thing a couple different places to go but right now we're gonna start out with the fighting game news we had final round 19 this weekend and it was a tournament yes there was

fighting games that were played there and and there was once again stick problems with a razor stick being used by Zian and Fudo sponsored by razor that fucking happened at critical moments and now after fucking evil finals went down and had disconnection problems everyone's like all right razor what the actual fuck is happening might want to stop this this is not this is not okay this is not acceptable so that's event damaging brand suicide yeah is seeing your branded stick with

your sponsored players in a competition yeah in a placement that matters it's it's it's a product that's it's it's it's fucking on stream it's it's god damn the Dwayne The Rock Johnson standing up and going I only drink such and such cool flavored Pepsi and then choking to death on the can or or it's like a basketball player going hey I'm gonna use these new shoes to boost my performance and his feet all my ankles all exploded all the gold my blood fill up and the shoes the shoes laces

are made of poison now they're eating me now that my feet are exploded am I allowed to put on some normal shoes no put the explodey shoes on your on your stubs and keep playing so yeah man basically this is a really shitty situation and the CEO of razor had to come out and issue a statement addressing the situation and his explanation for why they failed and what I don't have when the happening was that they were prototype sticks that they why would you that were being

field tested in actual competition and those are not the sticks that were is fine on consider the major it's not absolutely a major that excuse is bullshit so they were using prototype sticks apparently and not like market products that outsticks and wow my words sorry and you have the best words yeah and so they worked during internal testing but apparently due to some firmware problems there are some malfunctions that led to them that every leaving everyone wondering now when

you've given us your explanation which let's we believe let's believe okay let's believe you know what because here's a lot I'll say I will personally say that's bullshit but let's go forward with it being true anyway because I hate I hate when like I told a couple people about this because I made like an announcement about the stream whatever and then someone's like I like hey guys X is happening because of X and someone goes man I wonder if it's really because of why I

hate that shit yeah so let's say this is the truth sure I don't believe that shit for a second but even that let's continue on yeah why the fuck why why why why why we should do the prototype units to your sponsor that's why I asked even if it's even if it's a test in front of everybody it's the stupidest thing in the world live on stream why are you testing this in the most important environment like a secret agent like James Bond comes in they're like hey what type of

new gear do you have we have these prototypes go out in the field with them no like no you you test them until they are not a prototype and I'll fucking go outside don't give your fucking Olympic team like experimental gear hey that hasn't been proven this isn't like char getting the V on it's not done there's no legs all right this is like hey we're testing to make sure this baby food dye coloring isn't poison to baby let's test it on baby's live on TV on stream oh no a baby

died oh no again again to if you go with the Olympic example it's literally the difference between your team winning and losing your country winning and losing getting the gold or not placing so what did these results and so this result in like any losses they didn't yeah because infiltration one I'm sure they got very useful data out of yeah and like you know like people are possibly pointing to these malfunctions as being like like detrimental to their turn to their their

their careers yes of course because if they're taking L's due to games they're didn't actually L absolutely what the fuck absolutely so yeah no this is this is the basically the the last straw really it's it's absurd and that there will be a point that this happens again if they're this stupid if this does happen again I could see FGC organizers enforcing like a blanket like no razor products here's what I'm on televised doing they're suspending future fighting game community

support until the issues with the ps4 sticks have been sorted out wow well there it is so there it is done and that's that you know and the expect the existing sponsorships will remain unaffected I would not be surprised if after this the sponsored players got told okay you don't have to use a razor stick hey hey guess what you're going to see see and go up with a with a mad cat's T2 that has like a razor vinyl slap to the side covering the mad cat's logo good enough big old

kinko stick good enough that is that is fucking unbelievable that was not the only problem at a final round at final round alright team we also have mainly this is a report coming from Alex to Bailey who too much foot juice you might remember from dive kick as my family from CEO the wrestling themed fighting game tournament and I want to know one year and now from my own galaxy he spoke out about some problems that were going down apparently organization had some really

horrible pool issues that led to a lot of people getting their pool assignments like people getting disqualified because they didn't know that they were even up until 4am the day of that's not acceptable and you can't do that the fighting game events there's parties people are going out late people are getting drunk you can't you can't like so pools are being were combined and moved earlier and people in both pools had no idea you can't do that yeah so no you it's

definitely each but the Olympics example works perfectly exactly hey hey world class skier man yeah you know you your skier event was next week so you're ready to party it up with the Swedish chicks also guess what it's not skiing anymore it's snowboarding you're now in snowboarding it's tomorrow morning fucker and it's not a legit like like the something that's not a legitimate excuse but as a to it's a practical just understanding that you know the range of time that the

person is expected to be there and you can't move it up beyond that point and how long is final round been around at 19 of them yeah final round 19 yeah they should know better I think they should know better right now it's in a situation like that sometimes these organizations handoff tradeoff trade hands sometimes you get different volunteers in a situation like that you can run into scenarios in which the people that are supposed to play aren't even at the fucking

event yeah like hey we moved it up to a day before your flight touches down yeah and a lot of this comes down to your the people who are running your brackets your bracket managers and your pool runners every year Evo is the stupidest craziest fucking clown shoes set up with open invitation everyone can walk in and thousands of people walk in and sign up and play and they all get it done every single year because the cannon brothers fucking make it work yeah they know how to run a tight

ash ship tighter than you've ever seen and like it's not it's not like a dirty so Cal turning which like people are getting eliminated for five times there's no grand finals on the bathroom floor yeah although there should be although there should be one year other other fighting game finals sounds like final round was a real real fun time speaking of bathroom finals yeah the King of Fighters 14 cast God I didn't want to talk about this this this could have been

the foot juice one so I was thinking that now we've got pretty much the exact same rumor list as before with photos but now we got pictures of it so we get to see what some of those characters they put a real Japanese pop star in that game yeah that works for Nests cartel apparently I guess whatever with that I suppose Kim team looks like a bunch of bad asses him and his wife and his master what are you going to say they probably kick hard you got the

so he just did on the dock it's pretty funny you've got the the look at the invitational team official invitation which includes guest characters from other franchises I hope you can explain us a lot of people have been taken a lot of different art styles that are being used in this screenshot specifically on the woman's fighter side there's weird renders and people like this looks really off actually know this is all just the art being done by I don't know this artist name but they

did the same art for but this isn't the game screen this isn't how you're picking your characters isn't what this isn't from the game this isn't a screenshot from the game with this is a looks like a a that's where that's where it's confusing because look at the woman fighters side you see the one that's either why is it completely different than everyone I see yeah because stuff like that right so a lot of the most of the art you're seeing here probably because

of her portraits are not done we're seeing is from the same artist that did the Neo blood art for for the other King of Fighters games and a couple other SK games and it's not my favorite artist I don't know the name of the who of who did it the South American team looks like a bunch of bad asses I was just thinking that invitation team looks cool too and who can hate on Team Mexico with Kim's like Pat's I can team is sick you good old good old Ramon Angel is back and then King of

fucking dinosaurs so I love how fatal Fury is holding caps and Ikari as well fuck that South Town team with geese and of course makes no sense as South Town team is not is called the bride of South Town by geese Howard ruined it villains team with Chang and Choy Choy and some crazy blue bearded mother crazy rescue man so whatever that's about and there's a slightly updated version of this where someone really like tweaked on the filters to really reveal the final boss and boss

I can't wait to fight boss yeah one of them is inhuman is what we know there so the newcomer the newcomer girl the elephant in the room so the worst character I've ever seen in fighting games bar none I literally want to vomit I hate this character okay so obviously we're always biased towards not cool bad asses and we don't like the flowery cutesy moe types fighters that's always we're just whatever that's true but here here here's what I accept cutesy moe fighters from time to time when

it works when it's fine not momo is that s and K or K Wacky in general have lots of you know kind of cutie you know girl characters here and I've been fine with all of them but this one takes the fucking cake and throws it back up in my face I will take Nenon Bert and yes and and and whatever the fucking maximum impact girls name is well over Sylvie here and the thing that bothers me the most is her fucking weird ass eyeballs that are sticking out from the side of her head

it's it's not the archetype of the character it's not her voice it's not her moveset it's just a bad character to something well that's because it's based off a person and someone said yes that's based off of a Japanese pop star who dresses like that explains everything yeah no it explains everything that explains everything but I remember seeing some people say well no it's based on I don't care it's awful it's awful it's awful it's awful and that's all that's the only character

Liam will pick you know it you'll have somehow he'll get that character team of all just three three of her you know it looks great who vice yeah yeah always great vice always looks cool when on a writer always has a mature always cool after this trailer and all the other ones they are put my is going to be on the box she's the last in the trailer they're waiting for it that's going to be the last reveal well you know I bet you know my no buy my buy my buy my buy my buy I hate all the

worst I also forgot to talk about eyes I don't know why that reminded me I watched dip man three done that why is that isn't that the not good one no no the real it man three with Dunyan okay oh that one right nothing right home home about the story is kind of nonsense they got to protect school yeah he has a fight with Mike Tyson in that movie true dude that fucking it's awesome like it's easy like he fights a pro my tie fighter he fights you know a Chinese guy who does Wing Chun but the

one with Tyson is like amazing amazing you keep pulling Donnie N back in when he says I'm fucking done with this shit no no no no he's done and now they started doing it no he was done before he was done before and now he's back he was like I'm done but he's not done anymore they made the young it man after that yeah yeah no they made the young because he was done for this one and he's I'm done and they're like what's really weird is like no he's not done one of the one of the

villains in this movie is played by the cow by the same actor who was his brother in young it man that's it's because his American career won't take off and he's fucking yeah he doesn't care but uh no dude Mike kills it like he actually his Chinese is the worst ever I can't believe he even he tries you think he's dubbed in but like that doesn't count they they have a match and it's it's like the it's it's like he's fighting giant Black Epo there you go but going

back to King of Fighters it's like King of Dragons really like King of Dinosaurs sorry gives me a real like I don't even care at this point I'm all in I don't care and like selfie is not enough to make me go like and now I'm because King of Dinosaurs is two characters yes it's two characters but that and just like Team Fatal Fury and Geese being in it is like like it's impossible for me to not it's impossible for me to not have at least a lukewarm like yeah whatever

I'll play it as before it was like I was angrily going to buy it there's incrementally still improving it visually but it's not going to get there's little bit but the rate it's going is not going to get to where it needs to be by release um well if it comes out the end of year as rock Howard ever showed up as a child in any King of Fighters yes he has what in what in King of Fighters 2003 he shows up in Terry's when Terry's win pose he dashes out and they both point at

you and go so that that's assumed that Geese is totally dead at that point right that's assumed yeah right yeah the fact that Geese is in this game is stupid so Geese will be here and he'll have a win pose 2k2 2k2 and it's Geese will be here and he'll have a win pose in which he pushes a stroller in which infant rock Howard yeah yeah because rock Howard is actually getting younger but you know but but you know why it's fine man like you know why it's like diapers because

2002 was a dream match yeah that's fine so the rules don't apply this was supposed to be the dream match Crouser comes back this should be a dream this should be a dream match wait the story ended the story ended in 13 it was 2k3 2k3 1113 and then that's the end of the ash yeah cuz 12 because 12 didn't count this would be the dream yeah it's a dream match we don't but they're not officially saying if it is we don't know if it is but it's the right he's standing right

there Geese is the deadest motherfucker in the game where Geese is in it and it was fine cuz he was nightmare Geese have Rugal be DLC God damn it rules the shit or just just have a tzot costume yeah I'll take that too anyway I said it I said it and I'll say it again I'm like no matter what the game is gonna get the shit played out of it you put a yeah you put a you put a little mow a bow with eyeballs on your dumpster fire yeah yeah and your balls and then you plug a controller

in yeah you play yeah you plug a stick in for that matter yeah so Sylvie's gonna get just as much time play time as Momo did in 11 when we played 11 I know Momo she's the tiny little capoeira girl with on the psycho team that does but bounces little hearts come out how do you fuck up a capoeir Easter how do you fuck that up you make her a six year old child it's Moe is shit that's how you fuck it and you put her on the psycho team because the psycho team is a bunch of losers

unbelievable team psycho soldier loser all day every day except for like 13 era Kenzo he's cool so speaking of losers yeah speaking of big losers yeah first footage of Pokemon go oh yeah not ready yeah more time in the other had leaked out leak yeah leak is a good term for that footage because that's no squeaked out between the butt cheeks oh no it smells like poop oh that game is not ready no it's so not ready I wish I didn't see it yep cuz I would have no I'm I'm still excited

for a working version of that yeah that could be cool I hope that that's what we get no it'll be a shitty phone game well but that's fine you know what I mean yeah it's on the phone we don't care but isn't this Nintendo cares for I don't isn't this one of their big forays with Dina yeah this is Nintendo saying we can make good phone games for investors it's not for me but isn't Dina also responsible for their entire new generation online yeah yeah but come on that's a

different thing no but you still have to see this if this works no it's no but yes but you're talk what are you talking about that it looks crappy the game the game itself like it looks visually okay online connectivity and visuals are different things it seemed well it seemed like the Bulbasaur was just kind of not sure where it was supposed to be and yeah it was wishing for death cuz it's in a phone yeah and it could have been just a you know a build issue or could have been

lag it could have been any sort of no the but the IV soar was like I'm in a phone kill me yeah and tenors investors are whipping me into this phone help it hurts it's even smaller than a bokeh ball talking about footage you know you guys didn't see it but I want to I want to talk about a little bit is that like I have a transition to another Pokemon story sorry no we can just just talk about Pokemon at the end of this yeah okay you know fair enough is that

like lots of people are like tweeting a status and like whatever but yeah like 11 minutes of Ninja Turtles platinum in there yeah watch all 11 minutes yeah can safely say that I I don't know yeah it is a mess visually I was telling Pat a little bit and will you're like in the other room but every single button on the HUD is displayed with every single thing it does cluttered is not the word you didn't see this in the trailers cuz it was all just cinematic cinematic

stuff and then like you know gameplay with all the the HUD elements taking off but every single thing you could ever imagine is overlaid on the screen yeah and it looked like a confusing mess whenever you take a turtle the main gimmick the main thing you're doing in this game is selected of four special moves it's either an attack or a buff like Leonardo slow down time thing and this gigantic radio menu that appears overlaid across all gameplay the gameplay does not slow down

it doesn't pause it just gets overlay and takes up I'd say 90% of the screen and says like turtle like slow down time to a bubble bubble juice for things and that's for every single turtle and you're supposed to switch at least in single player you're supposed to switch around each turtle and activate these moves to like get the most out of the combat like hey Michelangelo does a buff that increases all the he cheers he does a Titus cheer and while doing that you

should be switching to Leonardo and doing the slow down time thing so everyone is buffed and time is slow down and just I kind of glazing out as you as you're talking about I'm just looking at this theory it sounds cool to give everyone a different task why no no it does but the way it's you're saying there's a radio menu that pops up and is to you know your radio menus appear and you know you can do them well you can do them not well and like most first person shooters they

do them well enough it's just a great out window and you can just keep continuing but this is this is during platinum combat when you should be hitting things and paying attention and and all this like I don't know I'm just looking at the videos and like that doesn't look all that looks like a mess like I'm not sure if I'd like that or whatever we'll see when we play it the one thing I'd say that was cool is that it was what we thought where the levels are kind of

little hub world open world things where you collect some missions do some things and you spend some time as a giant Manhattan map it's not a giant Manhattan map it's a couple of blocks of this manhattan map they saw this 11 minutes no division I tell you what it's no division and after that you go to like a you know baked in boss fight with bebop at that and what's cool is that bebop has like seven energy bars yeah which is fun yeah and they do that and like all

the dialogue and all that shit though that all looks great and it's fine and the actual combat is like the light heart attacks that we you know you assume but that just the special move thing like I get it turtles all work in conjunction and they that makes sense is the team aspect and they they didn't have that in in a course certainly didn't have that in transformers really but it I'm sure it'll be fine I hope it'll be fine but it kind of made me go huh you the way

you're talking about this stuff makes sounds like the way I was talking about the weapon upgrade mechanics just like this tertiary mechanic that just rubs you the wrong way and it sounds super fixable if you ignore all of it yeah possible the special move thing though is like you can't it seems like that's that's how you man win battles that's that's I haven't seen the footage so I can't really say it is the same thing where you attack guys you you clear out the thing and it'll

give you the ranking move on you know but I keep it simple hey man turtles for fuck's sake formula for people of the platinum formula at least might be getting tired to some so it's possible yeah they I'm sure they think they have their like we got they confirm there's absolutely no local co-op whatsoever fuck it co-op that's crazy online oh that's bad that's not good that's fine for the main mission career thing I think I I detailed how I thought it should be like that

last individual game where that's fine have only co-op have a single player but have a arcade II like for player co-op mode just for people that would want to just bash things as turtles but yeah yeah I hope it turns out well but I'm just like yeah like I think at this point like just being a ninja turtles game like it's you're married to the idea of local co-op yeah you know where else you can have local play with mutant turtles Pokemon Pokemon thank you I was constantly

reengineering that as the conversation went well done lots of Pokemon yeah well what do you guys think of this they have a unique way poke and as a unique way of this yeah I saw this right quitters in that it has a way of disciplining rates quitters well like other unlike unlike some other fighting games well some fighting games have tried to use jail systems and some fighting games use nothing some fighting games can't believe still geez now the jail system in theory works

but when you get put in jail for not actually doing an infraction that sucks so get better internet then there's the other theory that works which is the Tatsunoko I was kind of a jail system it was kind of a jail system or it just prior to prioritize your matches with other shitty people the jail system locks you in with those people yeah and you can't leave until you get better but Pokemon Pokemon fights fighters rather takes away your in-game currency that's that's it

that's solution it takes money away from you for buying shit ouch and they actually I will say when you go online for the first time like three times before you play anything you're like hey by the way don't leave a match it's rude I love that Nia says it's rude to other players don't do it yeah it warns you three times not to do it so then after you do it it's like we warned you bruh there's been a lot of there's been a lot of pay what you like data and and and worked on

rage quitting I think MOBA is probably do it the strongest because like man you get you get stuck in some kind of weird like matchmaking nightmare if you quit out of a game and a fucking MOBA especially since you know you're being marked matched up with teams and if you leave that's just the fucking end for those people and I've watched professional streams where sponsored players rage quit and it's like that stop it that's how bad it is stop and how prevalent it is I would

say that that it's it's kind of too late now at least for one of them but I think that's absolutely what Street Fighter five should adopt but it's too late in the sense that there's no time to implement this and punish people and take away their money so that they can't buy Alex there's always going to be I see what you're getting at and there's always going to be a margin of error for people which is bad connections but people with genuinely bad connections should be playing

on our just as bad as rage quitters it doesn't matter if if it's intentional or not but if you have a connection that is poor enough that you're disconnecting so often that you look like a rage quitter you're making the game worse for people I disagree because people that don't want to play with you can filter you out by simply putting their connection bar settings high it's true but you can't do that for an asshole who plays a great game that is an incredibly strong argument

yeah that I have never considered so I did that yeah that is a very good point really wow so I feel stupid I would like to see both versions of this implemented going I think that if you rage quit fight money and yeah I take your money and that's what happens bond for you I'm a big fan of did you disconnect you cannot play for 10 minutes that's that's all I think that's fine did you disconnect again you cannot play for half an hour I'm a big fan of that because it works

there's no like what would you would you rather lose if it happened to you like for a reason like you quit or whatever would you rather that that would rather get in game currency taken away I would I would oh if I did it it was me what would I prefer yeah I would I would prefer anything over in game currency getting taken away really okay yeah especially if it's an in game currency like Street Fighter that is money that's actually money there is you guys do know that there

is an actual penalty that is being enforced right now but it's being enforced manual which is nothing nothing like there's too many people people manual doesn't work they've they've they've taken away rankings a totally weak points totally but it needs to be automated so that the person just doesn't do it all the way again all the way out of any problem that people complain about Street Fighter five it's like how is that not that still the number one thing that

there is no penalty because rage quitters start to go away after a little while as they get tired of the game but still but and as as you get better like no bit in terms of development there's a great screen shot of that's good like a picture of like a sniper with a gun and then like the spotter and like the spotter is Arturo Satchez and the sniper is Hans just like there's I remember I think was talking to plague and he mentioned how in League of Legends like the

joke is that all the shitty players are actually in silver when bronze is filled with God like beasts because everyone who just makes a new account gets put into bronze like to go beat on newbies and people in silver are the ones that are actually new and bad and and there's a there's a rage quit variant of that where there are certain tiers all the way at the bottom and all the way at the top in which it's rage quit all day so but those middle parts yeah I would I would

enforce like an all of the above scenario and but I wouldn't do the time delay on like the 10 minute timeout unless there was a manual input factor where like the person you played with lodges a complaint right and I know anyone who just doesn't like losing will just lodge false complaints yes but if you have a higher number of complaints specific on your profile that says something about you yeah that's not the average adjust just and a feedback system would allow

people that are rage quitting more often I am I am for the most aggressive yeah like way things you could possibly do I think that if you rage quit someone should come over to your house and kick your balls remember trash your baby's trash your baby's early 360 you had a player review yeah and that didn't work but but there was a thing where people they tried yeah they didn't work no one wants to manually have to do work to punish someone like it should all be

automatic yeah I yes and I think that like but like if you get disconnected from someone a simple like what how do you how did you feel about that last match thing well I'll add will allow like the automated system should be the jail and the money deduction okay but the timeout you can go even further yeah like people complained about you because you're an asshole we know who you are now here you are get far yeah I I am big on like permanently shaming players so

like I think that if you're a consistent rage quitter I think that there should be some kind of visual effect applied to your characters forever okay and never ever take it off unless you buy a new copy of the game play devil's avocado for a minute yeah what if I'm a guy that says I paid $80 to be a rage quitter okay what does that mean what like what it's my game I can play it how I want what how far does that argument go it goes nowhere because fuck you $80 to like be

a rage quitter how how much entitlement does someone get online pass for no how much entitlement does someone get for simply purchasing the game so no that you see that it's a theoretical you you see this ideology a lot more in shooters online where it's like people who who buy aim bot and they buy these cheats and they say fuck it I bought this game to play it how I want and how I want is cheating like crazy and try and stop me you know whatever and I can do whatever I want

because I bought it that is a narrow stupid assholeish view of the thing that is the equivalent of I pay my dues at the hockey arena and I bought a hockey stick so I can jump into the middle of the local teams game here's and fucking kick the net over here's here's what you do here's how you get around hold on hold on I thought you meant literally when you go online with your brand new fighting game there's a past that says cheaters pass you pay me $80 you can rage quit the fuck you are

we don't care it's like the Disney's get the line pass like I skip the line I bought a rage I could quit whatever I want in fact the game auto quits anytime you're about to lose it just goes and it quits it calculates that you're going to lose it's called the gem system I saw that's good fucking pre you know you can create pre-order rage pass no I am I am a big fan of like escalating like initially extreme here's here's a verbal warning followed by real warning warning

followed by I think I think there should be what once a jail system I don't know if killer instinct has it and I know it doesn't has a very no no no hold on there it's the second part I know the killer instinct has a super advanced jail system in which you get trapped with the the dregs of society if you shit it up enough but does it have a pop-up that shows up on screen that says we're putting you into matchmaking hell for a while because there's a jail symbol

so I think I think that I think there should be a point and like you get a little leeway and then pops was like you're going to want to stop doing this because if you do not stop doing this this is going to happen to your account no you've unlocked the fart OST you can't turn it off yeah it's the rest sheet theme with farts yeah that'd be great I think yeah no I poke poke poke poke ends is the way to go though I think taking away the currency yeah I think all of

them have good ideas and they should all be all combined and if you can think of any more stack those two range quit dollar out of your paypal take some of your money so so poking poking has that right Street Fighter 5 currently has like not and has manual manual lead points that killer instinct has jail mortal comet has quit tallities but I don't know what what the penalty it just makes your head blow up yeah so it's just an embarrassing

there's no but all of these games have an in-game currency can't gold whatever fight money and then killer instinct has coins yeah and poking as as whatever the important the most important all I could take it away is that the person who disconnects should take that L yeah and you know what if it if it's complicated with the nature of your netcode to determine who gets the L both players should get a loss I would gladly gladly take one loss for someone so that the rage

quitter takes 50 losses because they have to stop eventually because it means that they won't get anywhere to teach better behavior as well as punish it right what I was going to say it was the way you get around that that that like I paid my money system I paid for my style though the moral clause if you would have like the entitlement of someone that's paid the money for the game is when you agree to the terms of service is part of that says don't rage quit one of

the part of the terms of service is ruining the community experience yeah invalidate don't be a tick your fun don't it don't it don't it just just like if you're on Xbox live and all you're doing is shouting racial slurs all day all day every day and a little promotion if you might get banned from Xbox live for that promotion I think they should send people to your house to kick your ass no just trash your dead babies great okay fine what if you don't have a

dead baby well yeah I know right yeah I know try TP your house yeah TP your house and then kick your ass just put the boots to him rage quit this motherfucker you know who I really think that rage pass should be there yeah what Shantae what about Shantae risky's revenge directors cut is coming to we use this week how many different how many different Shantae's do they there's a lot there's two like it's very confusing but there's two there's a kickstarted that's not

out it's a big console built from the ground up HD thing and this is just an up res that's of a 3ds of a handheld version that's okay currently coming out on everything yo Matt you want to play a shantae game sometime I played I played though the the one you talked about not too long much yeah I played it a little bit yeah they're fun I never actually like sat down played one though but shantae is fucking let's do it we'll do it okay sure wow sometime okay cool we got a new strategy

game coming from the creator of XCOM yes I heard about this the name was cool what was it so Sid Meyer huh what oh no why would you mean the original XCOM Phoenix points and I like it sounds good I bet that game will be fucking mean really mean just fucked up in mean Zucchini and I bet it'll have point blank 45% accuracy shots yeah no no apparently that was a thing in the original XCOM too seriously yeah because your rookies were just so shit that they were just shit I well

you need to talk to somebody who played you like the original XCOM games like if you thought the stuff we put up with was crazy you should like but that's just genre disconnected that was just like I peeked my head around the barn door and the base exploded yeah like you know like that's that's just like the thing where it's like well that placement is doesn't matter these are board pieces yeah and you're playing a board game as like fuck you you're dead you're fucking dead aliens

are real deal you know who's kind of dead but not really sadly treasure might be done making new games yeah I was actually just listening to the podcast that the mark McDonald and the eight four guys yeah yeah game jive on yeah in which like a letter came in is like is treasure done and then the eight four guys are like yeah treasures kind of done now to be fair they've always kind of been a skeleton team yeah of like themed only by skeletons but it seems like they're after

skeletons can't make a karuga no but they can port it and re-release it you'd be at least what a skeleton can port yeah no basically it's like Nintendo or someone would just buy them at this point yeah but if there's no one there left that makes games it doesn't matter so after basically after Geist crusher there it looks like they're just going to kind of become a guy like a licensed holding company yeah sad way this is really sad when I think about a total tragedy

it's a fucking travesty yeah and and it happened we think happened years ago if this is to be believed right like we just they just stopped putting out games week of treasure confirmed yeah I can only say that the the silver lining is whenever a story like this pops up a lot of people's ears perk up and someone with money goes hey wait no I'm gonna do something about it or someone goes well it's up to me to make the next treasure game or that yeah but I prefer the the version

where someone that's like already had a game company tries to save it dark gold pistol coming soon to to Kickstarter it's like a radiant so what do you do you think yeah treasure oh god no it's tough huh oh god yeah oh a sword planet sword building yeah yeah maybe so treasure originally splintered off it was a bunch of soldier alien shut up oh fuck you that's that's that's not even they splintered off from Konami I'd be like very early terrestrial

civilian yes is what that should actually be a Gunstar heroes yeah looking back at both companies who do you think was actually better the star on me in their heyday and this is without Kojima cuz that's you know what I mean I'll put I'll put it at Amy Winehouse I'll put or Miley Cyrus I'll put I'll put is what you're asking right now I'll put Rocket Knight adventure over over Gunstar heroes but no he's asking is it better that you you you got rich got huge and blew the fuck

up to get into the point where you're at work on Konami's at now where we go man fuck Konami yeah or just fade away small and you fade away they're both your but you don't leave a negative no I got your opacity drops no after you know I got it's definitely the small way because the small studio didn't kill bomber man in the product because the getting so big why another one of the Hudson Hudson Hudson yeah they bought they bought Hudson oh it's true yeah dude Konami killed bomber

man true like in the process of getting big they found a different treasure ate them and shot them out to death so the bodies left in your wake are like not your at least treasure was only a suicide collateral damage yeah just a suicide yeah okay I see. I was looking back on a treasure Konami there's a joke about bomber man in Konami ran up in there and shot the place up before like yeah like jumping into the Pachinko mines and

yeah never being seen again yeah we gotta shoot bomber man the humble out the humble out is the better bomb in the face the humble out is always the better way if you got letters about bombing us in the face don't that don't send us letters I can do that don't send us letter bombs to super best friend cast to gmail.com because you know we've got screeners screening all the time emails for Billy taste this letter taste this email does it taste like poison yes they all taste like

poison that's super best friend cast to gmail.com if you want to send us email poison which I guess that'd be a virus but don't do that either that's that's just shitty gmail is pretty good just send us bad just send us bad emails yeah like this read we've read a lot I don't know what this email says all you change it always looking at well he's looking for a worse email than the one he was looking at I wasn't thinking not because I was one from last week oh that's the worst kind

of email all right well email stinky South Pole guy yeah South Pole guy South Pole man Jesus if in a world without video games what would your main hobby be my main hobby would be probably reading books honestly reading books and playing board games like like D&D and stuff like that if I wasn't playing video games I'd probably still be drawing you know I mean like drawing would have taken over creating something with your with your time yeah but just drawing for fun I guess

yeah but I started creating no I like I'd be I could be like struggling and that like oh doing it badly for sure but I mean as a hobby I probably might still be playing sports yeah no yeah totally I will not Liam let's answer no and would die Liam would be dead and would be dead you would not be alive just fade like Batista no he probably he would probably run like a anime review thing hmm right he'd be he'd be part of the the animes he would he would have beaten like Mother's

Basement to the punch on like what so sorry Jeff yeah yeah I could see that yeah I'd probably be a lot more into movies Liam he would he would be trying to make an anime yeah yeah and star in it and voice it there you go and be the magical girl yeah yeah what's the same else we got one coming in from people's hey people's and he's about to a character and like the shaft movie with anyway continue the new shaft move yeah with the same Jackson is possible the guy named people's

that's possible that's my fucking crazy that dude at the end when he's like you best kill me because you shot his brother and he starts stabbing himself with the chest of the ice pick the movie's nuts fucking crazy with the bit with the bit with shaft and the basketball and the guy just pokes him he's like oh I'm feeling for my life here it's my name starts bouncing the basketball on his fucking face I thought it was going to bring shaft back but it didn't know yeah I know shaft game

from they gave it to Sam Jackson I mean who the fuck else could they have possibly given it to or the nicest fucking Jack yeah of course he walked into that courtroom scene and it was leather on the inside suede on the you know what he looks exactly like Nick Fury now yeah well that's how they have shaft so what's what the people's be saying what the people's be talking about is it possible to create a fighting game character or at least prototype one based on character

matchups alone or is it something more complex than that what no no that's a really interesting question and I'd think that it's not what actually ends up happening in in practicality don't don't nearly all fighters start visual design first well no gameplay wise I'm saying like no usually the yeah visual design influences move set and and how things yeah but you will you won't consider matchups but you will consider like okay are there any charge characters

in the game or their grapple you'll consider archetypes sure and we're missing one of these so let's build one for that purpose yeah and then that will inform matchups like I seriously doubt they'll ever be like we need somebody who beats dolls him or you know what what matchups will do is definitely inform like the move list you know like sometimes you'll have a character that has like three times like or like some crazy amount of moves and then it's like okay we have to

kill a bunch of because this beats this this beats this this beats this but the right combination yeah but the character itself like no off the bat although like SNK kind of like it's almost the opposite for opposite philosophy where they just like no more moves is better so you've got you've got years where Rio has literally a move on every quarter circle in every direction with everyone but yeah it doesn't it doesn't really happen that way too often Mr. Peoples and now we're

just going to go random because we're stacked guys why are you guys so dumb and ugly oh would you take the Ritt Miles wants to know would you take the risk of accepting a coin flip or there's a 50% chance of becoming a mortal 50% chance of dying instantly no that's no that's a bad that's a bad decision choice one of those like dying and and being mortal is not those are not equally value yeah like not at all the only way that question is valid is like would you flip

it immortal or die when you die yeah I'll do that I'll do that every time that's unfair in the other direction there's no reason to not flip the coin the only other way yeah guy in a year now that's that's no there's no way to make it work even get a really bad year you'll do is not worth because pure immortality will catch up with you eventually where you like I'm like inescapable immortality yeah like eventually you're just floating around and fucking space

yeah after the rest of humanity is done right the plan is exploded or worse even if humanity is still around you get turned into a I remember I remember watching like this this this cracked after ours thing a while ago and they described how like Wolverine's power is terrible because as if you're invincible but only human powered the over time the likelihood of you becoming immobilized completely reaches 100% yes just over a long enough period of time the

likelihood that you just fall into a crack in the earth and can't move forever you are eventually reaches 100% your body is almost basically a mechanical system that will shut down yeah and it just means that like and you know whether or not that be fucking floating in space or not or or getting caught in a rock or whatever unless your regeneration powers are you're really what your mentality is you just want to be like a spark because there's two kinds of immortality

right there's all live forever but a gun will kill you and then there's like actual immortality yeah I wouldn't mind living forever and not age but like anything can kill me yeah that's a good one I like that one because then when you get tired you just shoot yourself you're done you're like but you're you're only like 95 why why'd you even take the immortality deal nothing left to see the economy I saw robots it's fine robots were all I was waiting for they fought the

bugs yeah like would you like I think they have that I'd watch the robots fight the bugs forever I think it'd be better to do like coin flip and it's like you subtract a year or gain a year oh that's a way better deal that's a way more interesting because then okay because then you run into the problem of do I keep going yeah you just add the stipulation that you can flip it as many times as you want that's what I'm saying that to me is a more and then you'll die doing it

yeah you throw it up and then it lands and then you never see it you you you you throw it up and that's gambling you throw it up and uh-oh one year down you get a little older and say well I gotta flip it again to get that year back like uh-oh uh-oh what if you get on a losing streak but then someone puts the coin on your corpse and then your corpse shuffles and the coin flips over again you come back to life but you feel like shit because you're old I like you know

it'd be a really raw deal if if you flip the coin and it's like it removes one year from your life and you die instantly because you were going to die within the next year again that's the gambling aspect of it like think about that natural causes would have taken you next year I was gonna have a heart attack in eight months yeah and uh this is not the deal and then the monkey paw opens up or whatever I want I want a chicken sandwich on red last one excuse me from Michael and

Mikey was watching dbz and I thought about characters and how uh who blow themselves up and like sacrifice to save the day that's right does this ever work no ever never I haven't seen I can think of zero zero times all in my off the top of my head the only time I can think of this working was Pacific Rim where it worked exactly as planned yeah but he didn't blow himself up wait I'm wait are we talking about the final thing the final thing the final thing final thing okay

because he was out of the mech at that time no but no the other guy we're talking about the other guy yeah that was that was exactly as planned okay it never works in predator does it everyone escapes yeah failure rate is absurd yeah like it may maybe you could find like one or two times that it works but like more often like the more realistic you're setting the more likely it is to work okay right here's so so if it's a guy falling on a grenade okay that that's actually or like like

a guy like grabbing the villain and light popping a grenade or you know that that kind of thing yeah or like the end of the professional okay right stuff like that when you're in a real world setting and it's a suicide bomb yeah those are actually really effective like like aliens from Gorman and Vasquez yeah they they blow themselves up they didn't kill every single alien they got a couple yeah got a couple but but but the more the more anime your your situation becomes the less

effective it is because the more likelihood that in your fiction or world you can have a character just go yeah whatever Chaozu was a bit exactly and you can and you can always have like like the effectiveness of the suicide bomb is always amplified by how long the dying character has to like say parting words yeah yeah you know do they get to have the full moment is it cut short usually if it's old guy that was on his way out anyway he gets the whole monologue he gets the whole

monologue and he probably gets half the job done yeah but but not more than that never really actually it's it's not a good plan to go well let us know for mission of any that cuz I can't think of Pacific ribs a good one that's that's the one that's that's the one that's kind of anime but not really real to me excuse me what's coming out all right so Liam Liam being dead and having been dead for a while you and me having been dead and like the the slow we already kind of had

a bit of a lull because we were down a member before that as well so like live into dream is like it's gonna be a little while before we get those episodes up well it's more just like stuff with Liam has not can't be recorded until he stops and so he can speak just as of right now he cannot speak period yeah in terms today later today there'll be a crime time episode yeah I believe a scar face it was quite a banger of an episode Zelda Deus Ex FF 10 will continue as

normal I think that's all that's new and and I mean you know like we can definitely continue recording FFX but the schedule might get a little bit spotty there might be some gaps because just we had like a full like half of our output for a full fucking week and now we're a third a quarter of our output done for another week yeah so you know someone else will appreciate your patience but yes a speedy recovery to all and I can't fucking believe how unlucky Liam got where he's

getting better with the flu but me and him are both like oh our throats are fucked up but we'll be fine in a couple days and then he turns out was like nope it was the beginning of he ping-ponged four times yeah came over here three times and and you you and Matt are lucky that you guys didn't get sick I felt the tingling I'm starting to get sick don't get sick man I felt the tingling you know I'm finally being sick as long as I my voice is fine well that's what had like I was

so sick I couldn't get out of bed and so was Liam like a couple days so like Advil flu and charcoal powder yeah stop where are you getting the charcoal yeah where are you just going down to like a like a barbecue place and getting briquettes no it's not it's not that it's artist charcoal it's activated charcoal powder there you it's and and this charcoal has been activated by the division and my mom my mom straight up just brings me a bottle of it yeah and I called her crazy yeah

there's no way I'm gonna drink charcoal you're out of your mind and then multiple times I've done it and it's and now you and now you're like I looked it up online and I'm like is this real and the Internet was like yeah kind of now and now you're like hey it's pretty good I'm getting used to the taste there is no taste there's no taste it's charcoal tastes like water to charcoal there's no flavor that's weird you put charcoal don't want to do the charcoal water it becomes

black yeah mix the powder in there's not like gritty no because it's just carbon okay that's weird I thought I thought you were like chewing on like people need to let us know if well he's going to die or if he's right charcoal is just we're all gonna die one he's gonna die this week okay yeah it's just carbon so there's no taste to it it's just like it's charcoal because we're made out of carbon and it tastes like water think about how crazy that is you're thinking of

charcoal rocks that are like barbecue things I'm thinking of that's not that's not I'm thinking of like thinking of like my mind and like yeah I'm thinking of graphite like artist like artist charcoal I'll show you later it's just it's black I'm gonna we're gonna leave right after this anything we're looking forward to it works that's all I looking for things luckily this is tasty but it works yeah I don't look forward to anything yeah this controller I can't

stop I can't wait we were making fun but he's literally not as had his hand off it like it's just so sex and so sex so sex I'm I'm I'm I want to pimp and hopefully see what happens with a Nilo the Kickstarter yeah which we took a quick look at and we're it's only got a few days left so the game is super worth it and it's not asking for much there's a demo you anyone can get go play that demo go check out Nilo see if it strikes your fancy and if it does please back it because

that game looks amazing and yeah as far as streams go yeah you know again sorry that we had to pull an audible on you guys and change it up we said some dead members but we are going to be resuming with heavy rain shortly and then we're going to go back to Demon's Souls yeah that makes sense what am I looking forward to this week I don't know man nothing nothing nothing's jumping out at me right now I'm I'm itching to get back into Gundam and make it fun of Camille which is totally

a girl's name yeah like that really through a good friend of mine sisters named Camille and I can't like camera mile I can't separate it it's just like oh it's my friend sisters piloting the Gundam I know I'm I'm very interested for you to experience the Titans yeah you know what I don't like about Zeta it doesn't have the episode bumper of yeah that's super dumb that being said like you start watching that like holy shit so 80s right away like the fucking soundtrack and

all that shit sleep oh my god Thunderbolt 3 is about to get subtitled oh my god oh my god so you have to wait for the show to come out then you have to wait for it to get subtitled yeah it's out raw do you watch it raw no it's too good to ruin it's too good to ruin it raw too good to go as for me I think what are you looking forward to the mountains of madness the the one of the seven HP Lovecraft games that have been announced is coming out the 25th I think that's

this is Saturday set this week something on steam early access I believe and I saw the brand new trailer of it and you're fighting gigantic mutated penguins because that happens that happens in the mountains of madness so I'm looking forward to that and also what you just reminded me that also earlier this week I went to go see a sci-fi and horror themed burlesque show that was really fun because they had like Predator and Cthulhu thanks for inviting me

dick there was a Godzilla on stage oh my god I do I didn't know they were that was going to be there what was it I'll tell you I was burlesque geek but they're and everyone gets to the crowd gets to vote on the next themes every time they do a show so that was this show and then like the whole time they were getting around to the end of the show they're like okay so what should our next theme be and then we all yelled out 80s action movies so their next theme burlesque

show is going to be 80s action movies I'm letting you know from now okay that's good that's a good save happening and the other thing is that this weekend not sure which day but me and one Maximilian will try to do a little co-stream together with some fun secret games but we're not sure what days we're not sure what day it's going to be will be Friday Saturday Sunday and you know stay tuned to our Twitter's for the exact thing and we're going to watch I'll tell you though

we are going to watch together an episode of Street Fighter the end yeah don't cross what across the street across the street for it you get your dick wet and it's like oh no yeah what hmm hmm what do we okay no good podcast everybody good good play the music go scrape the ectoplasm off your get get the oh it comes Turn around and feel the wind blow

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