Castle Super Beast - SBFC 140: Dragon AIDS

Episode Date: April 12, 2016

Matt describes the contact high of sitting next to TeamFourStar during the Sayain New Day promo, Pat embraces Spacenoids, Liam plays Jack Choice and Woolie recovers from sickness with Just Frame timin...g.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This episode is brought to you by Loot Crate, the monthly subscription box for geeks, gamers, and pop culture nerds. This month's theme is quest! You only have until the 19th at 9pm pacific to subscribe and receive that month's crate. And when the cutoff happens, that's it, it's over. So go to lootcrate.com slash super and enter code super to save $3 on your new subscription today. I boldly await the day when Liam brings the facts to me. It's gonna happen. Where we get so far ahead of ourselves, but has anyone-
Starting point is 00:00:45 It has to be on a day where you're not expecting it. It's gonna happen and I was thinking about it, but I knew you were anticipating it for the next little while. Yeah, I'm on guard right now. We've had a fair share of upsets starting this podcast. So I think so, but I've been on guard for a while, so I'm expecting some bullshit to go down any minute now. But until then, has anyone played the video game 140? 140? I don't believe anyone in the world has.
Starting point is 00:01:13 140 is a minimalist platformer created by the same guy that made the game Limbo. Oh, okay. And it's a game that uses electronic music to create synesthesia-like events and effects. Yeah, similar to like sound shapes and the big trip. That's a great question, Willie. 140 is actually the number of the years that Job died at in the Bible. That's way less interesting than the Bible. That's way less interesting.
Starting point is 00:01:42 Hold on, no way. I got a different one. I got a different one. Let me take this joke. Oh, no, I screwed it up. Oh, God, I fucked it up. Oh, God. Oh, no. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Oh, no, wait, hold on. Welcome to episode 840. Did you just mix me down? No, I mixed everyone down. No, I mixed everyone down because we're peeking because your joke was terrible. Telephone directory assistance in Egypt is dialed with 140. Okay. Well, 140 is the age of one Richard Flair.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Yeah. You can only type 140 characters into Twitter. That's good one. That's not bad. Because that's not true. That thing chokes people's death. No, that's true. It's like 143.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Whatever. The Twitter... There is a video game on this video game. Named 140. It's a podcast, named 140, and you're trying to one-up that. Shut up. It's a film based on the Twitter entry character limited created and edited by Frank Kelly of Ireland.
Starting point is 00:02:38 All right. Welcome to episode 140 of the podcast. There's a pro one. No, he's gonna beat it. Pat Jaw is stuck on shit. He's gonna beat it. We just need to give him time. There's a pro 140 antibody found on the T lymphocytes of the human immune system.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Amazing. Matt! Give me a second. Woolly, I got one. Never mind. This'll be yours for sure. It's the name of a video game developed by Jet On. How's your week?
Starting point is 00:03:01 It was very good. I'm just gonna start mixing with these knobs. You don't want me to do that, Woolly. You can't reach those knobs. It's very fast. Fuck you. No, no, no, no. Put them back.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Put them back. Put them back. You really don't want me to just randomly start messing with your mixer? Yes, very fast. Pat, I think you should know better than anyone that you don't touch people's stuff when you go in their house. Yeah, that's true. That's true.
Starting point is 00:03:23 I went to the Texas. I got seduced by the feminine wilds of one Takahata 101. Was it bigger when you were in Texas? Did you get a big- It was longer. Yeah. Did you get a giant whatever-gallon drum hat? I didn't.
Starting point is 00:03:37 You know what? Again. Meet Texas Mac. Again, like when we went to Texas, not a single hat. Damn. Racist video games and cartoons have lied to me. You should probably go out to Calgary if that's what you want. Did the Mario 3 Sun come out to get you?
Starting point is 00:03:50 Yes, actually. That'll lead me into WrestleMania weekend where we lined up. We met up with the Shogun of the Row. We lined up an hour and a half. An hour and a half. I hear you had fun in that line waiting. And then you got in, right? No.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Before the pre-show started. Yes, even in March, in the Dallas area, Mario 3 Sun is like, please pull down your pants because you're going to get fucked. Kids legit, if you saw these tweets, were passing out in line because the AT&T centers, all of its Wi-Fi went down. So they couldn't scan tickets. So that's why when you're watching the pre-show, you notice that 40% of the crowd was missing because they were not allowed in yet.
Starting point is 00:04:39 Because they couldn't scan tickets because their Wi-Fi was out. That's why every time they did a tight shot, people were streaming in and walking in the background and getting to their seats. Feel like there should be a manual method for entering tickets. You know what? It was weird because the tickets we had were made out of paper and had perforated edges in which to just tear it. But that wasn't good enough.
Starting point is 00:05:02 A hundred and one thousand people, you probably need a couple of backup methods in place. Oh, no, no, sorry. Not a hundred and one thousand people because that was a lie. A fabrication, I believe. They lied about that. It was actually 97. They lie all the time. Trending on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Number one trending on Twitter. Are you calling the rock a liar? Yes. Roman Reigns, number one trending on Twitter all time. I'm calling the rock. Do you remember when the rock, when he'd come out as Rocky Myvia and in the nation, he would bring out the standard rock flamethrower and burn his name? As any humble wrestler would do.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Everyone was staring at each other coin. What's happening? What's going on? Why does the rock have a flamethrower and is burning his own name to ashes? So you're not calling him a liar. You're just saying that his cue card says the wrong number. The cue card was a liar, but so I'm not going to go on to it because it's almost like two weeks old now, but we were all kind of disappointed with the event.
Starting point is 00:06:03 Good match. Oh, wow. Okay. Mostly everyone was. It got a lot of... Yeah, well, your WrestleMania was awesome. It seems to be the only one on earth that I've heard. So I was about to say that the match quality of WrestleMania leading up in almost every
Starting point is 00:06:19 match was great, was really invested, but as a fan, every single person I was cheering for lost. It seemed like the general crowd or the general roar you would hear is people kind of agreed. We got in so late, we missed about 95% of the Intercontinental ladder match. That was the pre-show, right? No, that was the first actual event of the show. Oh, that was the first. Wow.
Starting point is 00:06:48 It still took us, because there was that huge line that they're just not letting people in and people were starting to shout like things like, let us in, let us in. Well, it's fucking starting. Like, I mean. It's fucking starting. Yeah. And it's really infuriating when you see people take out their phones. They're like, well, he just won.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Oh, yeah. That's how bad it was. That sucks. And that's not really the WWE's fault. It's not the stadium's fault, but you just want to find it. Yeah. No, you guys, you're angry. I bet you this type of thing happens every year.
Starting point is 00:07:13 But because no one's on the ground, we don't really hear about it, you just kind of look at the televised event. Well, you know, like Matt just pointed out, yeah, it's probably the stadium because it was the stadium's Wi-Fi that fucked up their scanning system. Or 97,000, rather. But like, yeah, the Intercontinental match, I would have loved Sami Zayn to win, lost. Zach Ryder's fine. But I wanted Dean Ambrose to win.
Starting point is 00:07:35 I really, really wanted Sasha Banks to win the new women's title, which actually is really cool. Okay. But you got that match was cool. No, that match is great, but I'm talking about like, I was cheering on the face and the heel one. Yeah. Charlotte's good.
Starting point is 00:07:50 But like, I just. Yeah. Because I felt like it was like, they're like, it's a new title and it's like the title's not changing hands. They're just going to re-christen it and still give it to her. And you know, Brock. But I was impressed with the match itself. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:02 Yeah. So I don't, you know, both can win, but I was kind of cheering for Dean. Yeah. And of course, Undertaker versus Shane, Shane with his thousands of Shane bucks that fell from the sky and basically ruined Undertaker's entrance, because there's so much heat in a stadium of 100,000 people that the bills do not fall. They're, they're having a merry old fucking time. You were telling me that one of them fell to someone near you and you got to see one?
Starting point is 00:08:29 Yeah. It's a fake Shane dollar. Yeah. It's useless. And it was like, ah, whatever, souvenir. Of course. Yeah. Were you able to hear the opening chords of the song round about right before he jumped
Starting point is 00:08:40 off of the cage to the to be continued moment? And then that's the other thing. He did that. He put his, you know, his body on the, on the, on, and then he loses. And then the next night on raw, they're like, ah, you lost, but we'll, we'll let you control raw for a night anyway. How can you roll that back? So the match was.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Pointless. Pointless. And then I really like the new day coming out to coming out to videos and dressed up as Saiyans being with a team four star guys. That shit was lost. Yeah. Okay. We need to know like what was that dude?
Starting point is 00:09:16 What was that? When it happened. Again, I've been in like, you know, the stadium that we've been in, I've been into one outdoor place. There's Roars. But in this state, like it was awe inspiring to just look around because it was so fucking huge. And that happened.
Starting point is 00:09:29 The only thing that topped it, the, the, the roar when new day came out was when Austin came out as a little, as a little band day to like, yeah, we know the new day lost. Here's randomly Austin and, and mankind and Mick Foley, uh, I mean, Michael's, they do all their shit and whatever. I mean, I'm sure you talked about this a bit last week, but I'm sure four star must have marked. They couldn't believe it. They're holding up the team four star crying tears.
Starting point is 00:09:55 They're like, if that moment wasn't in there, then this would have been like one of the worst pay per views I've ever seen. But because like it was really the saving grace to our hearts that like, they, they, they loved it. So that was really great. Oh, you were, and because you were there live, you didn't get to catch the fucking fort minor intro that was televised as well. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:10:16 The opening sequence. There's advantages and disadvantages to watching the fucking sequence of WrestleMania was fucking, uh, remember the name, dude? And I was like, oh, I like, no, I would have seen that on the TVs, but we were so late. Right. By the way, if you want to know a fun thing about Texas and the stadium has the largest TV that could physically be built. Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:39 If it got any larger, the stadium, like whatever you can build, cannot support it. So there's another stadium in Houston. They're like, fuck that. We're going to do it. And they flew in builders and mathematicians and scientists and they go, you actually can't be bigger than this. They're like, sure, but we'll make a different format. It'll be just as big, but it'll be like 100 by newer and fresher and yeah, that's an amazing
Starting point is 00:11:09 thing about Texas. Like, yes, it must be bigger. Uh, like, and of course, AJ Styles lost. So Jericho goes over, yay for Jericho. That helps. Good hire. This AJ Styles guy. So was it all he wins or was it just happened to be all the people that you want to do?
Starting point is 00:11:28 Continental title. Not really. It wasn't all he wins. Everyone was basically a face there and Brock Lesnar versus Dean Ambrose. They both got cheered. Every other thing I consider a heel win. Wow. That's is a WrestleMania supposed to be your escape from that?
Starting point is 00:11:44 Like, I mean, they build up triple H's victories all year, all year, all year, and then, oh, awesome. Finally, Roman. Yeah. But I was going to say, Roman's not a heel. I was going to say, Roman's still not a heel. Yeah. Not as we, not as they define him.
Starting point is 00:12:01 We define him as a heel. He did something wrong. He did something wrong. It was a face win. He's a mark heel. He did some things on raw to try to make Katie trying to fall down. I don't know. And speaking of heels versus faces, like the intro for like, oh, what's going to happen
Starting point is 00:12:15 next? And this intro starts where it shows Silent Hill creatures coming out and everyone's like, what the fuck is this? Who is this? Who is this? And it's actually like the most embarrassing promo thing ever. Yes, it is. Where it's Stephanie and triple H going, please boo us.
Starting point is 00:12:31 We are evil. You are all our sheep and you do what we say and everyone's not buying it. Everyone's cheering. Oh my God. Look how high Stephanie looks in the Conan bone armor. Oh my God. This is so cool. It's just the exact opposite.
Starting point is 00:12:47 They have a really weird problem with that. When you send, when you send out the wife as the mouth of Sauron, yeah, it's not going to work, man. It's so cool that it's I feel like the whole idea is like triple H is going to win the title and people are going to be so angry and that'll make them want Roman to win it back. He wins the title. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Yeah. After Roman, after Roman's evil, he speared the defenseless woman. Yes. Yes. There's a moment. Not sure if it was on TV, but it was triple H gallantly being like picked up by Stephanie and they hug in the ring and everyone started applauding because they tried their best against the evil heal Roman.
Starting point is 00:13:33 Wow. Wow. I'm not sure. Was that in the thing? I didn't see that. Because this was like 10 minutes after the match. Are you telling me that Roman Reigns is being mishandled? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Yeah. Roman Reigns is not a bad guy. He's shitty. He's just being completely mental. So triple H and Steph got the you tried good job walk off. You're not supposed to get that if you're healed. Oh, wow. Also, everyone lined up with their suits on.
Starting point is 00:14:01 I'm like, is this a muse music video? Yeah. Like that. What is going on? But you know, like that, that's all that. I still had a great time being there and cheering and stuff. I got a rum and coke. I bought a drink for myself towards the end of the show because when Roman Reigns versus
Starting point is 00:14:17 Tra started, I was like, I'm going to need some fucking alcohol for this shit. Give me a number on how much you think the AT&T stadium in Texas that had 100,000 people charge me for a small cup, regular plastic cup of size of this of just Coke and rum. 12 US. American dollars. $16. What? What?
Starting point is 00:14:38 What? What? $22 US. You are right, sir. Wow. $22 US. I paid it. Wow.
Starting point is 00:14:46 The growth is also really nice. I thought my $16 amount was like overshooting it by a hundred percent. That is very near 30 Canadian dollars. Right? Wow. How much was the ticket? I did only. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:00 It was a gift. It was a gift. That's true. Yeah. Lanny got it. That's true. I also got them a gift back. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:15:08 The one thing you got to do is like, I got to just get you like footage of that moment of like Texas, whatever, Dallas downtown or whatever. Austin or, yeah, I don't know, but like it's suburb, like, and it's doing like the dramatic cuts as like the hero's faces are fading in and you just hear Mike Shinoda going, you ready? I want to realize. You got to catch that, man. Really, really quickly.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Just while we're in Texas, no one in team fours except for like maybe one guy had seen Samurai Cop. So we had a viewing of Samurai Cop, the fucking house down as they have a great viewing room where they do their streams and at their office. That was really fun. We watched the NXT of Dallas, which was that takeover, which was so amazing. Just five matches really quick. All of them amazing Nakamura and Sami Zayn.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Just I can't. How fucking energetic was that? So amazing. Right. I loved it. And of course, Nakamura. It was just amazing. And everyone was fearing, oh God, they're going to bring out the chopsticks and the gongs
Starting point is 00:16:10 for his entrance. Yeah. Yeah. Samurai showdown. Rebrand him as a sumo character. But his theme was actually really nice. It's this nice violin. Castlevania music.
Starting point is 00:16:20 It's Castlevania. It's Castlevania music. It's great. And like the reaction when he does the pose in the ring, the fucking explosion. That was amazing. It was amazing. Really? Did you see the screenshot from the house show where he was him against Finn?
Starting point is 00:16:35 Yes. And like they're both doing the pose in the ring. Wow. Nice. That's amazing. You almost want these guys to stay in NXT because it always gets watered down or something more mainstream D. When did they go over to the big roster? Yes.
Starting point is 00:16:53 NXT is just the basic version of the guy. No, like less frills, but at the same time Nakamura is top fucking tier and he could absolutely be the main show. Aren't you afraid that they'll put him in WWE and he goes, indeed, choppa choppa yo pee pee. Yeah. Like with Kainai. They'd have to figure it out.
Starting point is 00:17:13 They'd have to figure it out. They'd have to gentrify him. Like they'd have to dial him back for the NASCAR audience. But his talent is above NXT level. Asuka. Asuka versus Finn. She's super fucking cool. So it's talking to Brennan and he's super pissed because he's like, oh, they fucking
Starting point is 00:17:30 use the Sakura pedals. Yeah. For her entrance. Yeah. I was going to do that. Dude, like she is the best like her entire character is like that is what a Japanese wrestler should be. And I'm like, you can drop into any fighting game.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Yes. One to one and work. Yeah. It was amazing. Asuka's the best. Her combos, man. I did lots of stuff. Those guys, they were so nice.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Like they brought me to lots of nice restaurants and stuff, whatever. It was really, really, I wanted to spend too much time on it. But the other thing I want to talk about talking to Louis is that I buckled the fuck down after Lanny and everyone's like, you have to watch it. You have to watch it. I just sat down. I just got lucha underground. Damn straight.
Starting point is 00:18:10 I watched eight episodes. So we all know about it. We've all heard. There are luchadors in it. Yeah. Yeah. We've all heard. But there's other guys too.
Starting point is 00:18:19 And why I'm going with this is that we've all heard it's good. It's what we actually want when we describe things about wrestling, but what it actually is, what it actually fucking is, is a TV show version of the Def Jam games. It's like money is on the line when a dingy club D-Mob is literally in the show. There's some luchadors. There's more exotic stuff going on. It's mostly luchadors, obviously. There's American dudes in there and all gets swirled in.
Starting point is 00:18:45 I'm only selling the first season, but it's actually what it is. And when it cuts to the actual made up TV bits, where a guy like has like. Oh, like fake recorded TV section. The background section. Yeah. Mil Morte, a thousand deaths has a girl that comes to your locker room and you're just working out and she licks you and she goes, I wanted a lick before you die, the divine a thousand deaths.
Starting point is 00:19:08 He's the guy with the rock, right? No. Who's the guy with the rock? I'm not sure. The stone? I haven't been there yet. Was it there? One of them who carried around a rock?
Starting point is 00:19:17 Mil Morte has like this red like little sash that he uses and he clutches it. Oh, I thought he had a rock. With a thousand souls in it from his from his village. I think that maybe comes later. Maybe. You might be talking about the the Vince McMahon type equivalent, but like, but I'm not sure that might be that. But that might.
Starting point is 00:19:34 No, Dario. Dario. Dario. And when she does the lick on the bodies in the ring as well, like from top to bottom like it's it's it's incredibly entertaining. I like I want to like just blast through it and it's just at first I was like, I don't know if I like this. I really don't know.
Starting point is 00:19:49 And then when I like, like I was on the plane, I'm watching on my iPad. It's like, okay. Like, no, I'm all in. I'm get fucking. So would you would you say we should go down to our local Mexico and buy it? Well, that's the problem. Exactly. I tried to buy it off iTunes and there's no way and they wouldn't let me.
Starting point is 00:20:04 I bought it. But I figured it out. Oh, I didn't figure it out. I said buy and it just worked. I like I tried a couple of weeks ago and it just it's not available in your location. Maybe it's because I was in the States. Oh, that's why. 100%.
Starting point is 00:20:17 That's 100% because you go to iTunes, Canada. No, no, no, no. No, that's what I did. I went to the States and I bought the entire season in the States and the States and I've been downloading it while I'm here. But I already made. That's the reason. Once you purchased it.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Holy shit. I'm lucky. That's why. Stupid. You got you got crazy lucky on that. Yeah. Because it just didn't work for me. So I mean, I've got it.
Starting point is 00:20:40 I got all of season one, but I tried to buy it and it wouldn't let me. That's always I can think of fewer things less infuriating that is like, guys, I want to give you money. I do. I'm trying to want to be part of this thing and I'm making what is probably more effort than you deserve to try and give you money. But you won't let me. You won't let me.
Starting point is 00:21:04 Okay. It's like, I'm really, really enjoying it, but like, I want to, I want to finish. There's a lot of episodes in one season. It's like more than 20. It's 48 or 52. I think something like, I think, yeah, something like that. But or 36 or anyway, but the production, right? The camera work and like the action and the level of like, like when they film and they
Starting point is 00:21:24 have establishing shots, what you, what wrestling a show has establishing shots. It's literally literally a soap opera at that point. Just a heads up. I just bought it in like one second. So you might be able to buy it now. Okay. Maybe they changed it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Because when he said he, when he were talking about yesterday, he said he tried it a while ago. Yeah. I should try again because I didn't even know it was on iTunes. So I never even tried. That's the only place it's officially on. Oh, I assumed you actually had to torrent it because there was no official. It brought me to the page.
Starting point is 00:21:52 And then as soon as I click purchase, it said not available in your location. It's working now. So, all right. Get in there. It's just your house. Get in there. So it's just this house. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:01 It's just this house. So that's really awesome. I want to continue with that. And I just, before leading up to Texas and after, I played a bunch of K.I. Season three. Love it. Tusk is the standout, I think. You got to tell us about Tusk's dialogue.
Starting point is 00:22:14 It's, oh, yeah, wait, we didn't say this yet or people won't hear it. All of Tusk quotes you can put on your gamer card are all Arnold Schwarzenegger movie quotes. It's all I know now why you cry. If it bleeds, I can kill it. It's all his fucking shit just for Tusk. So that's that's pretty cool. Really, really enjoying it. We had a blast playing it on the secret stream.
Starting point is 00:22:35 Yeah, man. Quantum break after Liam was like, yeah, it's really good. I'm really liking it. I'm like, OK, because I'll buy it to buy it, but I've never been 100% won over. I want to actually start playing it. And actually the part after me and Pat saw playing it, it got even cooler. I'm like, OK, all the trailers kind of did a disservice on what this game kind of is. It, so I've been playing it too, obviously, and it looks like a generic shooter,
Starting point is 00:23:04 but it actually feels like the next step like Max Payne was when it first came out. I wouldn't say that much. Well, it's not like a game changer, but it's like, I don't just feel like I'm playing a reskinned Uncharted. I don't just feel like I'm like it's just like Remedy's games. It's that much deeper in terms of like writing overall. If you've ever played Alan Wake or heck, even the writing is great. And that's just like, are you using your abilities as much as you're shooting?
Starting point is 00:23:31 Well, hang on. The writing is super good. And yes, you're using your abilities all the fucking time. And you have a lot of them, too. It's not like in chapter two. And I still feel like I have more than I need. You have like five or six abilities you can upgrade the like. Remember the pattern through the time bubble and that's shot into the bubble?
Starting point is 00:23:49 You can upgrade that so it takes more shots for your gun. So it like quadruples the damage at that point. So you can make the bubbles tougher so you can have it absorb more bullets. Like you use your abilities a lot, though, and you get a lot more. Like in Max Payne, you get the the dive. That's pretty much it, right? That's all in Max Payne. One, it's 99 percent of the dive in Max Payne, too.
Starting point is 00:24:11 You have a much stronger, just slow down time until it eventually stops. And you run around and shoot people. And Alan Wake, it's like, use your flashlight. It's usually a flashlight and various like mechanics around. And yeah, light stuff. Yeah, quantum break is like, no, you're using your pop and powers all the time. You got a super dash. You got a bubble.
Starting point is 00:24:30 You got a dash is fun, dashing into enemies and then shooting them while they're like floating in the air is really satisfying. You do the dash and you go into the aiming. Yeah, if you dash and then aim, you get like a slow mo period. So OK, well, you have you have not seen any of the beginning of this game at all. Right. So I feel like what Matt's saying is totally on point because I feel like this game had a disservice done to it in terms of its like tone being shown off.
Starting point is 00:24:55 I was not like all I knew is like there's time wrap. There's time structures and there's a stutter. Right. And it's like it's also a time travel story, which kind of da but in hindsight and their grasp of time travel mechanics really is the best because they set up a couple scenarios and they give you long enough to think about it where you go. Wait a second. If you're about to travel through time in this method, then this thing should happen.
Starting point is 00:25:28 You know, that thing that never happens because it would be hard. Yeah, but it should. Yeah. It happens immediately as you have that thought. And you go, yes, Hurtman, I watch primary yet. No, OK, I think we're done. I think I'm on you with that bit specifically when they turn the machine on. The last time he steps in, right? And he steps on the machine that that do the when time travel stories
Starting point is 00:25:50 omit that thing. It's always the deepest contrivancy because no, nothing bad's going to happen. It's just going to happen. And it's nice to finally see it because it happened. Yeah, let me guess. They turn the machine on and he steps out from the future immediately. Yes, basically. Yes, that's what should happen. Yeah, it's like he's I'm going to walk back through the through the time portal
Starting point is 00:26:10 to no, I'm going to walk forward to two minutes from now or whatever. And they turn it on and then they talk for a little bit and he opens the door and the guy just immediately walks out. Yeah, because of course he would. That's what happens. That's how it works. Exactly. And it's and they always like other time travel things always rationalize it as like, oh, don't meet yourself. It's going to be a problem. It's like time go.
Starting point is 00:26:31 You'll become goo and you'll melt and then or whatever. Exactly. Yeah. And like all the actors are great. Yeah, even the streaming show like you told me, like it's actually very interesting. I did you watch the TV show? I started I started watching it and I was just like and then like you have to watch it, by the way. No, you can skip it if you want. No, you can skip it. But I mean, it's in the game.
Starting point is 00:26:52 It's in the game. Yeah, no, you finish a chapter and the shots are rerecorded depending on your choices. Like how long is the each episode? It's like 30 minutes. Like, yeah, twenty two minute episodes. You've got to sit and watch. There's seventy eight gigs of footage.
Starting point is 00:27:05 But but Willie, because you can download it if you want to stream. Really interesting to me. Maybe it's more apparent later, but at least in the first episode, it's the only way I got to that seems to me. If you do choose to skip it, it's not the end of the world because at where at least I am, I'm not sure if it's changes, but it doesn't really put the main at least in the first episode. It doesn't put the main characters in the first episode and whatever.
Starting point is 00:27:26 It's just the tertiary characters and you get more backstory for them. If you want to get that, you can. Is that does that hold true for the other episodes? I'm based on pictures. I've seen no, but I haven't gotten to the second episode yet. So but if you feel like if you're like, I just want to keep playing right now, I don't want to watch an episode. You can just you can just quit and oh or you can skip it.
Starting point is 00:27:46 I guess but and that's the experience and it won't adversely affect the story. I think I believe it'll I think it will. If it's a good story, it should. I think it adversely affected. I believe it would remove whatever choice you get to make in that section. You don't make choices in the video. OK, they're there. There are sections in the videos and in the games that are the results of your choices,
Starting point is 00:28:07 but the videos never let you make your right. The marketing was not when you thought when you look at this game, you see screenshots or videos. You'll like just like me and like I'm sure a lot of people like that looks all right, I guess. But it's actually a thing you need to play because visually all the elements are just not shown in screenshots or videos. Even someone really explains it like there's this.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Amazing looking effect that I don't remember being like adequately like shown off whenever you use your time powers or the dash where every single piece of the environment ripples, yeah, and it looks great. Amazing. And I don't remember ever there being a trailer where the guy like did the dash and then stared at the floor because the effect is awesome. It was always just like bang, bang, bang, shoot, shoot, shoot. And the games and the games gorgeous too.
Starting point is 00:28:52 Like like I wish it ran a little better. Every time someone came upon a stage and talked about it, I assumed that it was going to be a video game with like a series show that went with it, like a companion piece. Yeah, yeah. What you can do is that you can't truth be told in the very first Xbox reveal, the shitty TV, TV, TV one. They did talk about it being part like an intrinsic part of it.
Starting point is 00:29:14 But after that, you're right. They slowed down because really when you start the game, it'll ask, it'll like it'll stream the episode. Yeah, and if you want or you can download all of them separately to your Xbox hard drive or whatever or PC or and watch it by itself all in a row. If you wanted to, if you wanted to consume it. Well, if you download it as well, you get it without any streaming hiccups.
Starting point is 00:29:36 And the streaming is quite good, actually. But it wasn't when I played it. But I think Xbox Live was generally a little flaky when I did it because we went to Netflix to watch some other stuff. And also would depend on your your specific connection. And the game happens in between, basically. So it's more like the show happens in between because the game parts are a lot. They're they're meaty.
Starting point is 00:29:56 It's not a short, short, it's a 10 hour game with four TV episodes. Right. Is that something like that? That's that's the gist of what I seems like. So when you when you make a judgment call on this product, then you have to judge the entire package together as one thing. You can't separate the show from more or less. Yeah, it's a part of the story to be the same narrative. It would be like ignoring cutscenes.
Starting point is 00:30:16 They took all they took all the cutscenes and they jammed them right the fuck into like one piece. But there are also cuts. Actors from the wire in this. Oh, there's more. Yeah. Who else? God, there's this black dude that showed up. That says nothing. Seventy percent. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:30:33 I don't know his actor's name. That was real name Daniels. Is a Bodie guy with the eyes that are bulging out. Yeah. And he needs eye drops. So so really, really, really, really quickly, though. Maybe it's a Bernie Mac. I also wait on quantum. Just one more thing. Sure.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Dual protagonists, if not more. Yeah, really cool. All right. Really cool. And of course, Liam's Liam's idea of it should be called Jack Choice. Should be called Jack Choice. It's literally, literally should be called Jack Choice. It's great when a big thing comes out and doesn't suck. Yeah. Yeah. No, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Speaking of well, not sucking, but I played the do multiplayer beta for half an hour. How was that? And that certainly doesn't suck, but I will never boot that up again. What's your name? Straight to the campaign. I straight to the campaign. It seems like it's fine, but it's just like your halo, your whatever. Not for you guys, not for me.
Starting point is 00:31:26 Right. But I'm good that they're that. Let me ask you a question because I haven't even seen the do multiplayer. And all I want to know is, does it move as fast as Quake? Yes, really? I'd say so. Really? It's very fast. Oh, OK. Well, it's the modern fastness equivalent of no, no, no. I mean, like then Quake one will probably know. No, then then it shouldn't be called do multiplayer.
Starting point is 00:31:50 But it is very fast. A different game, like I was I was talking to Fred about it on his podcast. And like he was he was basically describing like one thing that the thing that bothered me the most. And it's like it still seems to be in the game. I don't know if you noticed it, but it's like the kills are now. It's like you are now in cutscene. The animation, why are we all and then you are now going back and gameplay.
Starting point is 00:32:15 And it's like it's it's completely like it's not what's the opposite of seamless, it's a scene full, you know, like you can you can see all the lines. But I mean, you know, there's games we like to do that as well. So but but you want to have a sense of like so like in and you're out of it. So you know, in gear, you know, and here's the camera locks. The chainsaw one lasts a while. But some of them are pretty quick, like, like, you know, it's kicking. There are ones in Bayonetta that are longer.
Starting point is 00:32:40 I feel like everything in third person gets an easier pass because you don't have the I feel so to walk to the perfect. I'm not saying it's great. I'm just like, you know, it's it's a very weird, subtle feeling based on the way the camera when it's in first person, it's more jarring. And when there's and when you can feel the camera tween out of its like locked in movement back to where the gameplay is supposed to be leveled at. It's like, all right, guys, like I did make that smoother, please.
Starting point is 00:33:09 You know, and that's about it for me. I have some more stuff, but we we got a that's a fun week. Matt, all right, or two weeks rather, Liam. Hey, Liam, I played a bunch of Quantum Break. Boy, that Oh, tell me about that. Hey, hey, Jack Choice, Jack Choice. Why do you say that it should be called Max Payne's about Max Payne? Games thematically about Payne, Alan Wake's named after the protagonist.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Alan Wake about waking up, kind of, I guess. The original version of that game is about a character called Jack Joyce, and it's about choice. I think the game should really be called Jack Choice and that the character should be called Jack Choice, Jack Choice, not Jack Time. No, Jack Choice. No, no, it's about choice more than it is. Like Time is like the thing, but it's about time.
Starting point is 00:33:50 It's just a mechanism for choice. Because ultimately, if you travel back in time and did nothing different, it wouldn't matter. It's all about choice, right? Yeah, I played that a lot. That's super fun. I don't really have much to add on what Matt said. And you also said, yeah, it feels like when the order came out and like in terms of being a triple A beautiful release. But like this is a like actually quite good game that's not just like a tech demo.
Starting point is 00:34:18 I'm really enjoying it. I'll like depending on how much I like the end of it, I might try to play through it again because the characters live and die. If the story delivers, which it honestly might because Remedy, I'd be keen. It's quite enjoyable. So I was looking forward to it. But like with the state of the PC version as it is, like I'm going to hold off until hopefully they fix it.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Because like the PC version is all messed up right now. How much of the live action that you've seen so far is about Karketti, aka Littlefinger, aka a guy that he's an important part in it. But in the first episode, he's not the main focus. The main focus is on what's the actor's name, who plays the character named Liam, Matt. Liam, I don't know. Liam.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Okay. I don't remember his name. It's focused on Liam. Yeah. Anyway, it's focused on that actor who's a different actor. But that guy, the Littlefinger guy, gets a lot of play, including you playing as him. So vote Karketti.
Starting point is 00:35:18 Fun, fun ass game. I played a game called Knights of Azure that came out this week. Matt was asking me, is this a creepy anime bullshit? Can we do this? Can we do this? Is it creepy? It's no. Is it an anime?
Starting point is 00:35:29 Yes. Okay. Is it bullshit? No, no. Okay, well. It's actually like pretty good. One out of three is the good answer. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:35:37 It's by Gus, who make all those girly Atelier games. And it's about these two girls. And you know, when you watch an anime or something, and you see these two characters, and you're like, are they gay? Are they gay? And then you finish the 13 episodes, and it's like, well, we'll never know.
Starting point is 00:35:50 This game is like- It cuts Japan. This game, you walk in, and you're like, are they gay? And you're like, yeah, they're really gay. Oh man, they're doing it. They're all over the place. No, not quite that in your face.
Starting point is 00:36:01 But like, no, this is a game about these two characters. It's a fun action game. You need them often. It's like Gus's first stab at an action game at a long time, so it's a bit bland. Like, they're not great. They're not the kings of action games. They make shitty budget RPGs.
Starting point is 00:36:16 I don't mean shitty, like, bad games, but shitty, like, you know, like- Single A. Low budget, yearly RPGs, which is not like what you want to hear about an RPG series, but I like those games anyway. It's all right. It's pretty fun.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Not amazing or anything, but it's solid. Soundtrack's really good. Gus's really good at music. And I also played the Tokiden 2 demo a little bit. Yeah, tell me about the Tokiden 2 demo right now. It just came out last night for non-PS Plus users. Tell me, tell me, tell me, tell me. It's really fun.
Starting point is 00:36:43 What about the open world thing? The open world thing works. So you start the game, you make your character. Character, it's a bit better than Kiwami on PS4 where you're looking at it and you're like, yeah, this was clearly a Vita game to start with. That got bumped, and then it got bumped again. In Tokiden 2, there's still a lot of areas
Starting point is 00:37:01 where you look at, like, there's a cave section and you look at the cave walls and you're like, those were Vita textures. This game is still clearly a Vita game at heart, but they did more than they did with Kiwami to make the PS4 where you go. Is this like the first game to like... No, God Eater had the big stages, but they weren't nearly...
Starting point is 00:37:26 God Eater has big stages. How big are the stages compared to God Eater's stages? There's no stages. You just, it's open world. Oh, the whole... You just go. Oh, man, I... When you find a demon, it puts a big ring around you.
Starting point is 00:37:39 I fight them. My standards for hunting action games in terms of their geography were so low that even after seeing the footage and being told it was open world, I still thought that just meant bigger. I just thought that meant the stages didn't have load times. Did you play Tokiden?
Starting point is 00:37:58 I played Tokiden a good deal, mostly the demo. Did you play any multiplayer? I played some multiplayer. You know that stone you interact with to start multiplayer and stuff? So those things are placed around the world and you can warp between them? Good. And that's kind of how they have like areas here and there
Starting point is 00:38:14 without having you... In the demo area, are you able to explore the whole map? No, not the whole map, but it's very big, yeah. Give me a scale. It's like... Anything, any comparison. It's like the first map in Monster Hunter 4 with, of course, no loading times and proper areas linking them
Starting point is 00:38:33 because they wouldn't link if you just put them next to each other, but bigger than that. Okay. And there's open areas... Like twice as big? Yeah, and there's open, like, Hyrule Field size areas. What's up, Willie? I just want to know what character class you played as in the demo.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Okay, so your choices are boy or girl. They have all the same options, and you can pick any weapon for any character. Like, you're not divvied up in classes. You just pick your weapon, and that's kind of your role in combat. I only played it once, so I'm going to come back to it tonight. I played with the Sword and Shield, and it's super fun.
Starting point is 00:39:10 Yeah, it's a bit like the Switch Axe and how it works. Because you change between a high stance and a low stance with it, and they're like... They have two different movesets entirely. I would really like to find out from you if you... Whether or not you know already or just play around with it with a weapon you're more familiar with, because one of the Monster Hunter things,
Starting point is 00:39:28 they always add two or three new moves to every move set. Yeah, I literally only touched this weapon. My favorite weapon, Sickle and Chain, I think is gone this time because the Demon Arm kind of replaces it. My favorite part, the only thing that really got me on Tokidin is I felt the move sets which... You felt they were shallow. They were slightly too shallow.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Just like two extra moves. I know for Kiwami, they did that, and they added two or more moves. Absolutely, yeah. So I can't imagine they pulled back so it's probably better in that regard. I'm excited. So when you get to a big Oni, like a boss,
Starting point is 00:40:02 it puts a big ring around you and you fight. That's how they do it in the open world. The boss can't just run anywhere in the world. Does the Monster Hunter, the boss never runs away? No, it stays within that area. Okay. Like in Tokidin where... That's fine.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Actually, no, in Tokidin they can totally run away. Yeah. I don't know how that's going to work. Maybe the arena will break and they'll just move. I only fought the first boss, so maybe there's exceptions to that rule. Maybe it's a demo thing. Who knows? It's really enjoyable.
Starting point is 00:40:29 What's up, Matt? Matt's got a question. When exactly does this thing even come out? Because it seemed like it was just revealed like a month ago. Like three weeks ago or something like that. So yeah, like they really started marketing it. Now you're playing the demo?
Starting point is 00:40:41 Like a month and a bit ago. It comes out in fall in Japan. It doesn't have a Western date yet, but Tecma Koilo puts everything. Come on, fall! So who knows? This was just weird because they were like, hey, this thing exists.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Hey, I'm playing the demo now. So yeah, they announced it at TGS last year, but it's been a long wait since then to get to the marketing. And also that's how they do the demos for these. Like, okay, Liam's used it as a great example in the past where it's like they put a demo out and they're like, hey, everyone, what sucks about this demo? This?
Starting point is 00:41:08 Okay, it'll be fixed in the main game. We promise. They made improvements. So hopefully they'll make improvements here as well. Lootcrate has a question. Oh, hey, Lootcrate, what's up? What's your question? Let's get this box open.
Starting point is 00:41:26 What box is that? Crack it open. Use your knees. The Versus box. Versus. Versus. No, but I mean, where did you get that box? It's a crate.
Starting point is 00:41:35 It's a Lootcrate. You just found it at your door? It's straight to my door. Wow. Straight to my door. So here we go. Right off the bat, we've got the top of the lid with the little versus symbol.
Starting point is 00:41:45 I always appreciate good VS designs. That's a good one. Play your guilty gear versus theme or your Street Fighter versus theme. Tecum versus Marvel. I'm going to take you for a ride. We got our AVP Lootcrate exclusive little figure. Which is it?
Starting point is 00:42:01 Is it an alien or a predator? Is it A or P or the mysterious V? I'll beat you up and take it if it's a predator. You better hope it's not. Matt brought his weapons. Is it the one in 100,000 Predalion perhaps? Oh, seriously? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:42:18 No, I'm making things up. He's just reading off the back of the box. Oh, now it's even more hidden. It's sealed inside. It's super sealed. It's super space sealed. It's totally going to be an alien. Packaged on Mars.
Starting point is 00:42:30 If you squeeze the package, you can find the dick. I can feel it. That means it's an alien. I can feel it. It's a xenomorph. A xenomorph? It's a xenomorph. You can feel the dick.
Starting point is 00:42:40 Yep. It's totally in there. Well, he's giving up because he needs a knife. Where's Willie's knife? It was right over there. God, just give me the thing. I'll open it for you, big baby. I can open it.
Starting point is 00:42:51 Then you. Luke Craig, not for little children. I can open it. You did it. He finally did it. It's like a bag of chips. Yeah, good job. Yeah, it's a Xeno.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Is that how you open bags of chips? It's exactly what I got in my Luke Craig. Yeah, so this is a normal Xeno, and it's got the little shoulder pads. It's actually pretty nice. It's the grid one. Well, like I said, I appreciate this because the head is accurate,
Starting point is 00:43:12 unlike some of the other weird mini figures that other companies will get. Yeah, other vinyl figures. We've got Spock versus Spock, and Evil Spock's got the moustache on him, so you know he's bad. You can't trust those goatees. That Spock becomes good eventually in that universe.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Shut up. Don't spoil it, man. Yeah, no, totally. I didn't know that. You didn't know that? Seriously? No, after the crossover episode, that Spock ends up becoming more like the real Spock,
Starting point is 00:43:40 and he ends up completely fucking up the mirror universe. Yeah, he would. Because of the goatee rule, this implies that we are all the evil versions of ourselves. We're all the evil versions of ourselves. The good versions of us are somewhere. The good version of me is a putz. Oh, I know where he is.
Starting point is 00:43:55 Yeah. We're the best friends that exist. A rich billionaire. We exist in the universe where justice prevailed. Yeah. Oh, good. Because of the hat everyone's been talking about. We've got half of the matte cosplay.
Starting point is 00:44:05 Yeah, we've got the Daredevil hoodie, or took, as we say in Canada, and you inside out that shit, and you got your matte hat. The only problem is that you can see the red fringes of Daredevil. I like that. Your logo, too.
Starting point is 00:44:18 No, that's all right, but... People have been telling us about this hat ever since the first Loot Crate ship. Like, holy shit, have you seen these things? It's actually a nice hat, yeah. I like it. Liam, your logo should now be the Daredevil logo. God.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Does that mean if we pull that inside out, it'll be Liam? Just shoot some top and waist into his eyes. Time to get into character. Oh, fuck, god damn it. I earned this. We've got the Loot Crate pin, which is actually a really cool AVP.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Like a pin where you've got your true predator face on one side. Oh, yeah, that is cool. And your Xeno on the other side. It's like a fighting game versus... Ooh, I like that. And we've got a Batman versus Superman wallet. Great.
Starting point is 00:45:00 Where you can put all the money you saved by not going to see Batman versus Superman. There's a lot of good Batman versus Superman. There's a lot of Batman versus Superman confrontations. They're not all gold, but the comics will have some good ones. You can go read. The animated series had a good one in World's Finest.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Is there something in the book? And yeah, it's just some little fake money and little things and whatnot. Oh, Batman bucks. Batman bucks. Orphan dollars. We've got Harley Quinn's comic book, The Loot Crate Exclusive.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Variant cover. Variant cover. There you go. Okay. Quite a versus thing, but it's cool. Well, she's probably finding someone in it. She fought someone at some time. Probably.
Starting point is 00:45:36 I'm just gonna say. If you ever fought someone, you're eligible. And then the Loot Crate magazine. Of course. Yeah. And that's it. Good stuff. We do it.
Starting point is 00:45:44 Let me see the box. It looks like, yeah. It looks like you turn this crate inside out and you get a... A daredevil. A predator jungle. Oh, shit. Yeah, and you do hideout.
Starting point is 00:45:52 There's like aliens, xenomorph eggs, and there's skulls over that skull. Oh, I see it. Yeah, it's a predator jungle hideout. Set up your maquette. LC-1337. Show it to all your friends. So that's a good example of what you get in a Loot Crate.
Starting point is 00:46:05 Good job versus if you want to get in on this type of thing or next month's theme, which we know is going to be quest. Quest is a good thing. You have until the 19th of this month at 9 p.m. pacific. And you can sign up at lootcrate.com slash super. Use the promo code super. You save three bucks on that new subscription.
Starting point is 00:46:24 And it's already less than 20 bucks a month. So, hey, what do you got to lose? Nothing. Not much. Thanks a lot, Loot Crate. Thank you, Loot Crate. Thanks, Loot Crate. Ah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:36 Okay. That was a good question. Perfect. I get you. I think my only two, like, complaints about it is the arm that you use to grab stuff, like the Thorn in Freedom Wars, is a poor man's Thorn from Freedom Wars.
Starting point is 00:46:49 Kind of a bummer. Because it's a side gimmick instead of a core mechanic. Yeah. In Freedom Wars, it feels immaculate and it works all the time. Well, there's like three or four separate mechanics just for the Thorn in Freedom Wars. There's tons of functions. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:47:01 The trailer really sold it. Like, you're going to be crawling all up on that monster. You can do a couple things with it, but it's not as... Like, it's not bad. It's just, if this came before Freedom Wars, it would be really impressive, but post Freedom Wars,
Starting point is 00:47:14 it's like this is a poor man's Ibarra. It's not as good as that one. And the only other thing is, in the town area specifically, before you walk out of the gates, they must be doing too many draw calls or something, because there are frame rate issues in the town. Only, and only in the town, not outside the town.
Starting point is 00:47:32 That has to be early. There's no way they can ship a game like that. It's weird. Like, it's the kind of thing that I look at and I say, well, the Vita version's actually going to run better in the town if they leave it like this, you know? That's stupid. No, it's hopefully...
Starting point is 00:47:47 They'll fix that. I think they will. It seems kind of like a bad thing. The town in a hunting game can't run badly, period. Yeah, and it runs weirdly badly too, so... Yeah. But it's really good. Really enjoyed it.
Starting point is 00:48:01 Total natural continuing point for Kiwami, and I mean, if you haven't played those, it's a good place to get in anyway, because it doesn't continue the same story. It goes to a different place in the world, and you can't even transfer your character over. You just get a bunch of little benefits if you transfer your save file and items and shit.
Starting point is 00:48:18 But really good game. Looking forward to playing the full thing, I guess. Yeah, I'm excited. If you make a Japanese PSN account, you can play the demo. You can do that. And Tecmo Ko is so based, we still have Neo to look forward to this month. If...
Starting point is 00:48:33 Like, fuck, man. How involved is making a Japanese PSN account? Looking up a YouTube video, and just following the instructions for three or four minutes. Yeah. How many fake emails do I need? You need one? Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:47 You need... You need an email address and a Japanese address. Address. Those are the two things. People usually use the embassy or something like that. Or a Walmart or something. You need the working postal code, though. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:58 So it's not just like Googling. No, you can just Google it. Oh, does that give it to you? Like Google for a landmark in Japan? Use that. I live in the giant Gundam. Works just fine. Yep.
Starting point is 00:49:08 It can be a little tricky if you try to get too specific, because, like, you need to be typing in Japanese to get to the Japanese side of the internet sometimes, but you can do it. I believe in you. Okay. Well, I'll talk to you later tonight about it, maybe. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:20 Maybe. And there's six weapons in the demo, I think. Five or six. So it's a good selection. Okay. Let's go. Yeah. Also, if you're not gonna say it, or unless you are,
Starting point is 00:49:28 but if you're not gonna say it, everybody vote Vita for uppers. Yeah, no, absolutely. Please. Fucking please. I really think that's gonna come out here, and the producer even said he's trying really hard to get that in Valkyrie Drive.
Starting point is 00:49:41 But just in case. A little bit more push. Yeah. I, uh... A little hard. No, for sure. No, totally. Go to the vote Vita thing and fill that out.
Starting point is 00:49:50 That is literally not how that works. No. And it's done. Are you... Did you close it? Oh, I sent the numbers. Oh, you sent that you're done. Yeah, I sent them, and it was confirmed received.
Starting point is 00:50:00 Okay. So that's... All right. That's, you know, doing its thing now. Hopefully. I thought there was a little tail end on that. Yeah, no worries. No worries.
Starting point is 00:50:07 I'll, uh... Yeah, a lot of people did. Fucking come on uppers, man. It's gonna come. It's gonna come. Looking forward to it. Will you be canceled? In all regions.
Starting point is 00:50:17 Okay. I think that was, like, all I did. Otherwise, it was just last week, part two, keep watching Kamen Rider in The Office, and playing that stupid Kamen Rider game. I can't... Dude, I can't stop playing it. It's...
Starting point is 00:50:27 That stupid game, that's awesome. That stupid game, it's awesome. Playing it so fucking much. Who's Phillip? Yeah, I love that. That's the best question ever, where it's just like, like, okay, so, Kamen Rider double, right? Yeah, yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:50:38 Who the fuck is Phillip? And it's like, what? What? Oh my god, if you haven't seen the show at all. I'm just... This question makes so much sense, and it's hilarious. Just playing his double in the game, and he's like, and I'm like, who are you talking to?
Starting point is 00:50:52 Who, who, and you're like, he's introduced in the first episode. How do you not... Yeah, it's, it's, it's... Yeah, of course. It's hilarious, yeah. It's just, they're, they, two people in one body. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:01 No, that game's super fun. I, I really hope they make a sequel and step it up again. I'm sure they will, but, you know. And like I said, you get to judge everyone on their writer kicks, and not on how good or bad the actual show is. Not what's in the show. Yeah, exactly. Like, I'm playing his decade.
Starting point is 00:51:17 Not the contents of their character. Yeah, well, I'm playing his decade, and I'm like, oh, this guy must have the best fucking show in the world. He must be the coolest. He's got the best writer kick, yeah. Yeah. Oh, no. Not just the best writer kick.
Starting point is 00:51:28 But then he's got a lot of cool stuff. But then don't you get in this weird, horrible place, you're like, oh man, if only I could put this guy into this show. Yeah, it happens. Well, I'm looking at Excel, and I'm like, is he from double? Excel? Yeah. He doesn't look like he's from double, but okay.
Starting point is 00:51:44 Yeah, yeah. Okay, so I guess I'll take it from there. Yeah, go ahead. Who said that? It was Woolly who said that. Woolly said it. It sounded like his voice. Woolly of the past.
Starting point is 00:51:55 I'm trying to get all of our names in every time we do this. So, I see. I spent most of the week horribly sick and dying with a superflu in bed. But the charcoal. Yeah, well, the thing about that is that's for bacterial infections, not viral. Well, yeah, you can't fight the virus. So it's just.
Starting point is 00:52:12 You can't. There's no modern medicine that can't. You just needed to drink twice as much. No, it missed that part. It's not bacteria. It's a virus. I think bleach helps. Bleach helps, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:21 So, trust me, I understand the snark and cynicism because I too feel that way when my mom says it. But no. And also because you started to get sick and you went but the but the charcoal. Yeah. No, it's a bacterial fighter. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:39 It's not viral. You know, that's that's what you need to know. And luckily you got better like in perfect time. It needed. Like you you got better on the day that if you had been sick for one more day, problems would have happened. Yeah, it broke when it needed to. And that's that's always a good feeling is when you're sweating like crazy.
Starting point is 00:52:57 And it's like that means your fever is breaking. So you're in pain, but it's good because you know the worst part is over. You realize you're alive. Yes. Which is always helpful. So in that time frame, I managed to go through quite a bit. I bet you did. I wanted to play things, but I did not have the fortitude.
Starting point is 00:53:14 The mental fortitude. Just like you were just kind of I'm going to guess like. Yes. Yeah. Testicular fortitude. Right. So the best I could do was click play and return a page, unfortunately. So that's what it was.
Starting point is 00:53:25 So I rewatched all of Gundam 0079. Okay. For a second there, I thought you were actually actually going to say I rewatched all of Gundam. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. So yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:40 So what's it like going all the way back to that? Well, I did what I didn't do last time, which is I watched it dubbed this time. Okay. At least to get the difference there. No, you need you. Come on. You know what? It's fine.
Starting point is 00:53:49 Yeah. The dub is totally fine. Whenever I'm watching. Are you watching it? No. Okay. Whenever I watched that part of G Gundam where the kid steals the Gundam. Fucking moron.
Starting point is 00:54:00 When I'm not paying attention and I'm not fast enough hitting the buttons, occasionally it'll roll in dubbed and I'll be like, this sounds fine. Away with that shit. Yeah. No. No. Absolutely. For the main characters, you really want to hear their Japanese voices because they're
Starting point is 00:54:15 iconic at this point. And they retain between series. Absolutely. Yeah. But it was just, no, it was just fun rolling back through that and like, yeah, remembering things that I totally forgot about. Like fucking, that asshole that just slaps around. Oh, Drager.
Starting point is 00:54:34 Sleger. Sleger that just slaps around Mirai. All the time. You know, and you're just like. And then she's in love with him. Oh, right. Shit like that. I forgot about how like, besides the whole stupid monster of the date format,
Starting point is 00:54:46 things that happened towards the middle towards end there. They have a bunch of episodes where it just cold opens on. All right. Let's do our change formation, guys. We got to get the timing right this time. And it's like, why am I watching this? It's like, oh, sell the fucking toys. You got to sell the toys.
Starting point is 00:55:04 They do it for like 10 episodes in a row. No matter what happened in the last one, even if it's like, oh, Amuro ran away from the base. He's not there anymore. We're still going to practice this shit, though. Yeah. And then the narrator has to figure out a way to make it work. Like, ah, those days of practicing the timing of the combination attack are long gone.
Starting point is 00:55:22 Yeah, I know. Now that Amuro's ran away from the base. And it's like, you fucking, you scam trying to trick Japanese kids into buying shit. But no, it was, it was, it was fun going back and seeing like a lot of that. And let's be like, yeah, man, this, this totally holds up. Yep. Totally. And it has an extra layer of like, oh my God, that's so old and shitty looking.
Starting point is 00:55:44 Not, I don't mean in general, but like, there's some parts that are just like, yeah, yeah. And, and, and, but just like a lot of the fear I had talking to people being like, I don't know, 79 might be too old. It's like, no, no, you can totally start there. Yeah. Yeah. And then a couple of like moment of impactful scenes where it's like,
Starting point is 00:56:01 it was only when we started going back up to that moment that I'm like, oh, shit, right. Where like, without saying who you just get that you get someone floating through space with a hole in their head. Yeah. And, and like someone else asked, does anyone have a problem with what just happened? And everyone's like, oh, that guy died a hero in battle valiantly. Long live him.
Starting point is 00:56:26 Let's go on. Moving on. You know, like it was really. And then one episode later, you get the awesome follow up. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, yeah, man, super stands up. I also watched all of Gundam 0080.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Wait, which one is that? That's the war in the pocket. Oh, that's war in the pocket. That's the war in the pocket. And I finally, that was one that I had. How long is that? It's six episodes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:48 Yeah. That's that's short over the year. And I'd always lagged on it and I never got around to it. And I went and it's fantastic, super good. Um, completely different in tone from everything else in any of the other Gundam series I've seen because what it follows is like through the eyes of this elementary school kid. Okay. Like who's living on side six, which is like the neutral colony.
Starting point is 00:57:12 And like shits going down, battles are happening, but it's through the lens of some kid that's like, oh man, yeah, war. Look at that cool suit. Oh, that Zaku's awesome. I hope it doesn't blow up my house. Oh, my house. Probably. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:25 Let's go chase it. And everyone's running for their lives and he's jumping over bodies to go find the crashed Zaku. You know, like it was really interesting to sort of see that play out the way it did. And yeah, just all in all, just short fun series. And definitely is not, not important, but a nice bridge gap for chronologically for if you want to get into, you know, like the other stuff that happens in 81 or 83 and so on. So good old Gundam action in there.
Starting point is 00:57:54 You get to see another RX-78 prototype as well. I watched more Daredevil. I'm not finished yet, so I'll wait. Where are you at? I guess. Matt, why are you tapping your wrist like a watch? I was literally thinking like, this motherfucker better watch Daredevil while he was sick. No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:58:15 I guess you started last week? Exactly. And yeah, no, no, no, no, no. I will be done by next. Did you get up to, oh, Matt, you remember, remember when we used to kick it old school? Who's that stick? That's supposed to be Electra. Oh, that's why I keep saying that too.
Starting point is 00:58:33 That's why he was making a girl voice. That's my girl voice. Perhaps not. Did you see the fighting scene down the stairs? No, he can't. That's in like episode eight. No, no, it's early. No.
Starting point is 00:58:46 Well, either way, I'm not there. No, no, it's in episode four. So he's not that far in. So you're three episodes in. He has to be three episodes in. Still like three hours. Maybe two episodes. Um, it is three hours.
Starting point is 00:59:00 Yeah. Thank you, Liam. Still a lot of, like I haven't watched a single episode yet, so. Watched it one day. I watched it. I have anime homework to do. I actually beat. Yeah, you do have that anime.
Starting point is 00:59:10 I have anime. I want to do everyone's been asking for a spoiler cast. So, um, wait on you losing. I watched what you watch, man. I watched another Mecha show called Relic Armor Legacy. Um, it's a 45 minute OVA one, one and done. That's short as fuck. And it is, you know what?
Starting point is 00:59:29 It's just old 80s fun. Yeah. Annoying voices. I remember I had fun in the 80s. Cool Mecha designs, um, interesting world set up. And like a mysterious location that, and there's basically this show that had promise, but because they just never got part two, they never got a sequel. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:48 This cliffhanger ending is just going to live on forever in that. Wow. But if you just want to see in that piece. Maybe in 20 years, David Lynch will. Oh, it's actually from 1987. Okay. Yeah. It's all like.
Starting point is 00:59:59 Oh, 20 years. Yeah, we'll say, bring it back. Oh wait, that 20 years was nine years ago. This feels pretty obscure. But if you, if you ever feel like it's on YouTube, the whole thing. And if you just want to watch a one off of this one weird Mecha thing, this one weird, check that out. I've read some more steel ball run.
Starting point is 01:00:17 I keep saying it every time this gets more bizarre than I could ever imagine possible. It's pretty bizarre. Like, like to the point where I'm like, I, this panel, like out of context Jojo moments are happening in context. They're not any better. Yeah. They're just as weird as out of context Jojo. I suppose like it's gotta get like the only place it could go after a couple of series
Starting point is 01:00:42 is weird. The show that's airing right now, part four, that's when it starts to get super weird. It starts, it's starting to head down the path of real bizarre. You saw, you saw episode two, of course, right? Yeah. So my girlfriend, when we were watching it was like screaming at the bit where what's his face destroys the dog and his owner. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:03 Like the, the step by step destruction of these two. The whole process. And it just keeps going. It's a process. And there's like seven cuts. It's crazy. Yeah. You want to establish how insane your dude is?
Starting point is 01:01:16 Oh, he's insane. So people have said, Erickie, why do you hate dogs? Every dog in Jojo gets it bad. Except that one. And Erickie replies, I love dogs. And I think pretty much everybody loves dogs. That's why I have villains do horrible shit to dogs. So you know those dudes are real bad.
Starting point is 01:01:31 It's the puppy test. Yeah. It's the puppy test. There's more coming. There's more dog tests. No, it's a cat soon. Oh, yeah. And not that cat.
Starting point is 01:01:40 Not that cat. The, the first one. The first one. That, that one's coming soon. Yeah. Um, so. Like probably next up. No, in three, four.
Starting point is 01:01:49 This is forward to it. So we got to talk about, we got to talk about the intro and outro. Wow, that intro sucks compared to the others. Wow, that intro is awesome. I love it. It's cool, but I feel like it's a pretty big step. So here's the thing. I also saw, I thought it was okay.
Starting point is 01:02:01 Here's the thing. Yeah, exactly. I think it's a fine intro, but compared to the others. I watched it and the moment I watched it, I was like, I love this. Everyone's going to hate it. And I know exactly why. Well, for one, it's not CG, so it doesn't look as good as the others. There is that part.
Starting point is 01:02:15 But the other part is that the, I know that just the music and tone are all not what the most people, what most people like, because it's not like rock and upbeat. I don't think that song is nearly as good as I. But rock, rock, upbeat, yeah, doesn't fit. Diamond is not crash. I think this suits the series. Don't get me wrong. I think the aesthetic completely suits JoJo part four better than that.
Starting point is 01:02:40 Definitely. That said, I think the song is a little bit bland. It's very bland. It doesn't really stick out to me at all. And the animation is nowhere near as dynamic as any of the previous ones. Like if you just watch any other opening, I will pick Stan Proud even. Put that, watch that and then watch it the fourth one directly after. Because my girlfriend was not having any of it when I was saying it's nowhere near as dynamic.
Starting point is 01:03:05 But when you watch the two one after the other, it's very clear. I hate CG and anime because a lot of the time it's done shitty. And it's just a static shot with CG and it looks poor. 90% of the time, I would say. Yeah, less and less, thank God. But those openings take full advantage of it and have the camera panning and going insane. I think those were done by CyberConnect, actually. Oh, that's a rumor.
Starting point is 01:03:27 That's not sure. Oh, that's not true in the end? That's been confirmed to not sure. Okay, cool. I actually didn't know that. Yeah. Okay. But like these shots are just way more static and less interesting.
Starting point is 01:03:37 I will definitely. It is a very nice opening. I do like it. The lack of CG definitely hurts it. And I watched all five back to all five in a row. Sorry, you don't need CG. Right, you just need lots of static. I'm also going to say that the other thing is there's definitely way less meat in that intro.
Starting point is 01:03:54 Yeah. But there's hidden bits and there's lots of references, but there's way less compared to like End of the World, for example. And so, yeah, I don't feel that I'm not, I'm definitely not going to say that it beats the previous intros because I don't think I don't feel it does. The previous intros are just like fucking stellar perfect. But I will say that I love it and I especially love it because of how well it encapsulates that arc and the spirit of part four.
Starting point is 01:04:26 I think tonally it's there, but there, I think there are genuinely bad cuts in it that I would not have done the same way. Like, what's his name? The kid who doesn't understand. Koichi Koichi. The shot where Josuke comes in and does his thing and his stand pops out from behind him. And then Koichi comes up next and he stands in his pose and nothing happens for like three seconds. I'm sure there's a thing.
Starting point is 01:04:54 That's going to change. I'm sure there's a thing, but right now it just looks stupid. Yeah, that's going to change. Okay, that's good. But you can do a better thing then instead of just having him stand still for three seconds. You know what I mean? Like, I hear you. My bit, the shot that like turned me off and it's unfortunate because it's so early
Starting point is 01:05:11 is when it's just a technicolor background and then here's just the characters flying by the screen one after the other like crisscrossing the screen local. Here's all the characters that are gonna have like. I got what I got. It's a big step down from jumping off sound effects. Yeah, I got I got the vibe of the same vibe as bloody stream from it in terms of like this is color and attitude. There's so much more color in the bloody stream.
Starting point is 01:05:35 And I disagree with the go go back to the radial moment where they're zooming out of the full shot of Jotaro and Mariah and you're getting nothing but color explosions. I don't think he's talking about a number of colors. I'm talking about I'm saying there's more color like half of bloody stream is bright purple, bright green, bright purple in the middle. I think it's debatable, but I do. I definitely do think it's it's the weakest of the five. Yeah, it's the weakest of I think it's good, but I love it.
Starting point is 01:06:05 I think it's a C tier persona for spin off intro. Well, Jojo's just Chinese personas. Yes, no, no, but like, but persona for is based off of this part and that tone in their intros fits this arc. And now I'm looking at intros that are imitating like they're trying to do that. And they didn't do it as well as the copier. The other thing is I totally like the moment the music started, I was tapping my feet. Oh, that that song is terrible compared to the other crazy funky bizarre town.
Starting point is 01:06:38 I'm on board, man. And now the now the ending, the outro is great. I'm fine. Yeah, great. King love. No problems there. Yeah. The outro is more static, though, if anything.
Starting point is 01:06:50 Yeah, but it's an outro. Well, but all the outros are more stuff. It's an outro that's a completely different because I have expectations. I was going to say, like, I was surprised that the outro is supposed to be a classy end to your viewing experience. And in this case, it's totally like thinking about like walk like an Egyptian. It's not it's not in your face. You know, you know, and nothing will ever be like, again, the roundabout strum.
Starting point is 01:07:09 You know, we'll never get that. No, that shit is that's another level. Seeing that Savage Garden on Twitter are massive Jojo Marx is real. Wow. That's great. So did they know? Yes. OK.
Starting point is 01:07:24 They were like, we're honored to have been asked to be a part of this. I took what was he listening to at the time? For anyone asking, I'm only saying that because Warner Brothers can literally just sign it off without them. So I needed to know. They were like, oh, you guys want to be in Jojo? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:37 No, what was that? Great. That's awesome. What was Eric listening to at the time of drawing this at this part? Yeah. Fuck in Savage Garden. Put the minute. Like Savage Garden was like, we'll add to the length.
Starting point is 01:07:48 Dude, I just I started singing like the moment it kicked in. I was like, no, wait. What? Oh, so I'm really good. I'm singing along with it. I'm really, I'm really excited for this part because this is oh, sorry, after you. No. And I was gonna say, and then once you're done, like, love, like, love,
Starting point is 01:08:02 loving that, rewatch that outro and then rewatch it again and then rewatch it because that has everything. Tons of shit. Right. OK. There's so much going on there. And and like there's a part where I stopped it right at the end. And I was like looking at it.
Starting point is 01:08:21 And I was like, what, what are they doing here? What does this mean? What is there's going to be a second outro? So yeah, I'm super happy with that. Oh, this is the part. It's only tangentially related. But so you're watching the crunchy subs, right? And look, it's me, my Stan, Shining Diamond.
Starting point is 01:08:42 Yeah, of course. And I got and my brain goes, oh, boy, this part's going to be fun in regards to that. Uh-huh. Well, it wouldn't be the first time. So no, no, Liam. It's it's not even close. The part four, although I'm just saying like stuff like San Fiento has been there already. No, but like part four is like everything is a band name.
Starting point is 01:09:03 Yeah. All of it. All of it. Okay. And and like part like part four has a lot of that. It has like a really, really ridiculous amount. But it's my stand. Red hot chili pepper.
Starting point is 01:09:15 But but steel ball run is the maximum I've ever heard of all of them. Of all of them. Is it just because there's more characters? No, it's because there's characters that don't show up that you never see that are other racers in the race. When they look at the scoreboard and you look at the ranking board and it's just a bunch of bands running a bunch of bands. And you're like, there's like there's a character named Kanye.
Starting point is 01:09:35 And we haven't shown up. But he's there and he's got points and he's on the board, you know. So it's getting harder and harder to avoid this. Great. Yeah. But all in all, and the episode itself, like what are you going to say? Great. It's just fucking awesome.
Starting point is 01:09:50 Absolutely. Right. Did you watch Space Patrol Luluko? I didn't. Okay. It's great. You should watch it. You'll really like it.
Starting point is 01:09:58 Okay. It's by the writer of Gurren Lagann, Killa Kill, Pantene Stocking. It triggers next to the animation, right? This and Kizniver are the ones they're doing this season. They're both probably the best this season. Is that Ninja Killer one come out? Yeah, it's all finished. It came out.
Starting point is 01:10:14 Was it Trash? You never heard of anyone talk about it? Do you like Inferno Cop? I do. Well. Oh, shit. Also, Luluko. And if you liked Inferno Cop, Luluko has basically Inferno Cop.
Starting point is 01:10:26 Oh, I love Inferno Cop. Inferno Cop's a hero. Anyway, both those shows are great and you'll like them only, so. Okay. I like it. Luluko's, it's Pantene Stocking without the raunchiness. Yeah. Replaced to Space Police.
Starting point is 01:10:38 Well, I was going to say, I like Inferno Cop, but remember I didn't really like the other one. Dah. Ninja Killer, man. Blank and blank with blank, but is that one short? Oh, that was a short they did for an animation festival. Yeah, for the animation festival. Sex and violence. Sex and violence.
Starting point is 01:10:55 Something. With something. Anyway, yeah, yeah. No, that was like an animation festival. Okay. This is like a real one. Yeah, no, you were right to not like that. This is a money maker.
Starting point is 01:11:03 Because it was bad. Final, final thing. There is a web comic I started reading as well. So you read all the homestucks. It's been a, yeah. Start with the word kill. Parse. That one.
Starting point is 01:11:13 That's the one. Fuck. That's the one. Dude, the name. Have you started? Just the name alone is amazing. So guys, here, just the name of this web comic is Kill Six Billion Demons. What happens to that?
Starting point is 01:11:27 None of them die. Not much. Not much. It's very peaceful, actually. Yeah, okay. All I'm going to say is, I haven't read a web comic in years. I have just tapped out of that entire genre. But this is a really fun ride so far.
Starting point is 01:11:42 And it doesn't beat, but it parallels saga in its world building. Okay, wow. The world building's really good. The web, huh? Well, at the end of it. In a web comic. Well, I mean, at the end of the day, if you took Saga and delivered one page at a time over an internet thing, well, one page, however many panels needed to tell the story.
Starting point is 01:12:05 I recently watched a web comic couple of months ago called One Punch Man. Sure, sure. So, and that was good. Yeah. But no, world building on the level of Saga, which is immensely impressive. It's quite good. I don't know if it's quite as good, but it's up there. It's really good.
Starting point is 01:12:25 I'm not saying it's as good as Saga. But it's up there. But I'm saying the way you establish this world, the mechanics, what's happening, how it happens, there's so many questions you have. And like when it answers them, it's really fascinating. I totally agree with you, by the way, on like just dropping off web comics hard. At some point, just deleting the little folder on your bookmark chart. Yeah, I did that too.
Starting point is 01:12:47 Yeah, exactly. Did you guys get to the point where you really liked web comics in general, and you kept adding a new one to your daily rotation every couple of months, and you got to a point where you're blowing an hour every single morning. I got to a point where I wasn't laughing at them. Well, that's exactly what happened to me. I got to a point where I was spending an hour every morning, and just like going through all of them as a ritual.
Starting point is 01:13:10 And then I did a couple months of that before I realized like, wait, why do I do this? Yeah, I don't even enjoy these anymore. Anyway, I'm like back up to four, so. I just did it because like I was working still in QA. It passed the time. You need some way to not work. To anchor myself to reality.
Starting point is 01:13:29 But I'm back up to four web comics now, so it's like, oh, shit. No, to me, that folder was huge. And the last rotation I had, because I added a bunch, and then I was like, fuck all of these. The final rotation I think I had was like, Penny Arcade, Sin Fest, and Nuclear Power. Nuclear Power is still ongoing. Two of those, yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:49 8-bit Theater, you know. Still ongoing. Yeah, and the truth is that I was just like, I wasn't laughing. And then I was like, all right, well. Bring PDF back. I'm just not there anymore. Bring PDF and Castle VidCon's back.
Starting point is 01:14:01 Castle VidCon's is on forever. Those don't count. Those don't count because those are events in your life that happen. You see them and then you go back to normal. Right? They don't even on the regular. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:14:13 Same thing for. Castle VidCon's isn't dead. A very rare, and PDF rarely puts up with that. I feel. He said he's pretty much done, though. No, but I won't. I know. I feel like Castle VidCon's just pre-draws every situation
Starting point is 01:14:26 in the world because he's there within a day. Yeah. No, Perry and I have a fellowship, Castle VidCon's, and a lesson is learned, but the damages are reversible. Are three unbelievable webcomics. I never so much cared for that last one, but I think it has the best title of anything I've ever heard of. I went through all the PDF stuff with my girlfriend the other day,
Starting point is 01:14:45 and I forgot. A lot of the early stuff's kind of shitty, actually. But there's killers in there. It's my birthday. Yeah, no, exactly. There's killers in there. I always get. But some of the early stuff's pretty poor.
Starting point is 01:14:59 I get a smile to chuckle. And every now and then you go to the one where it's the techno Viking on the unicorn killing the guy, and there's a massive explosion, and it's the future people walking out of the movie showing World War II. Yeah. There's good ones in there. You just totally lose it.
Starting point is 01:15:18 That mean future. No, those three don't count because they don't happen regularly. Yeah. Are you guys pro or anti-scub? Fuckscub. Fuckscub. Warning incoming, PDF. Warning incoming.
Starting point is 01:15:31 Like, that's what it is, right? Yeah, yeah, that's me. Pat, what's going on? Okay, well, I played a bunch of games I've been playing, so nothing new in Final Fantasy, nothing new in Pillars of Attorney, really, of note. I went back to Dark Souls 1 and started a new build that I've never played before.
Starting point is 01:15:51 Jesus Christ, the Scythe is really overpowered in that game. Like, it's fucking gonzo. But also, I'm like, man, Dark Souls 1 is still so good. It's still so goddamn good even now. If it just had all the little minor quality of life improvements that were added all the way along, it'd be... Yeah, I mean, it's still really good. The other part of it is like, god damn it,
Starting point is 01:16:14 we are never gonna get this design again. This limited fast travel design. Why didn't you never tell me that it was originally supposed to be called Dark Hole? I don't think it was. You did. You made up this bullshit story that everyone called you out on. No, it wasn't supposed to be Dark Hole.
Starting point is 01:16:34 It was supposed to be like Dark Sign. Dark Ring, that's what you said. Plague told me that apparently the original name was supposed to be Dark Hole. I think Plague is just trolling you. Plague is literally messing with you. Or he didn't sound like he was messing. He never sounds like he is.
Starting point is 01:16:52 Well, and then I saw that Berserk panel, and then there was that Berserk. So there's that, let me think. I watched a lot more of Gundam Zeta, and nothing else to add other than two points. How far in are you? We're in the Hong Kong section still with the Psycho Gundam. They're about to leave.
Starting point is 01:17:13 Okay, wait, because it's been a while. Has Caraba happened? Yeah, no, they're doing Caraba stuff. Okay, on Earth? Yeah, they're on Earth. They're at Hong Kong. Okay. And a couple things to note.
Starting point is 01:17:27 One, man, Amuro and Peltorchika just, wow, they just throw themselves at each other. Like, hey, who are you? I'm Amuro. And then one episode later, Peltorchika is screaming at every character. I'm doing it for Amuro! I'm crazy!
Starting point is 01:17:51 Like, whoa! So calm it down, lady. Did it bother you at all that in the end, Frow was just like, man, fuck that guy. I'm gonna go do it with Hayato. Hang out with Hayato. I actually got, I dug that. Because fucking Amuro is way too busy.
Starting point is 01:18:10 I love it when the canonical, obviously, after the end of the series, they'll get together. Don't. Or they get divorced or whatever. But they don't because Amuro's a weirdo. And he's being too shitty and crushing on everyone for no reason, super hard. Yeah, no, in the original series,
Starting point is 01:18:27 every single hot adult lady that Amuro sees, he just goes Goo Goo Gaga over. And Mariah even calls him out in Zeta. He's like, you still got the hots for Sailor, right? Why don't you go look that shit up? And he goes, nah. And then a girl that looks just like Sailor shows up. So that that.
Starting point is 01:18:45 And then he just immediately, mwah, mwah. This gets even creepier as time goes on. Oh, yeah? But it's amazing. Call me Char. I don't know, you might know things. I know, I don't.
Starting point is 01:18:57 What? No, what? All right, well, anyway. What? There's, well, it gets weirder as time goes on. Let me know. Let me put the mask on you, Veldor. But the fact that, yeah, the straight up,
Starting point is 01:19:08 and the thing is that makes that weird too, is like the origins, the first episode moment of like, you see what happens to Frau. And you're supposed to be like, how do you ever let that kind of girl go after that happens? You're her only family left. But Amuro's like, I want a milk. The blonde.
Starting point is 01:19:30 Did not even a milk. Sailor's like 19 or whatever. It's just, he's like a baby. And the other thing is that there is like a six episode stretch in which I honestly believe that every adult in the show kicks Camille's ass. There is a weird stretch in which every single member of the team goes into Camille's room where he's sulking,
Starting point is 01:19:55 says something to him. He goes, I'm an enemy character. And they just kick his ass and it's great. And the weirdest one is a Lee, the guy in the purple suit that runs the Hong Kong Caraba Division, where Amuro, not Amuro, sorry, Camille walks up and he goes, are you Camille? And he goes, yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:17 And then he just kicks his fucking ass top to bottom. Two, okay, so two things. Oh, one, how, tell me how you feel, how you felt when Cats returned and tell me how you feel about Cats now. Fuck Cats. I felt when Cats returned, I was like, oh, that's the little kid. That's nice. Right back, right back to Fuck Cats.
Starting point is 01:20:42 Fuck that. He is the exact person that I hate in this show that I got to dodge so far. Somehow this character didn't exist so far, but now he's back and I want him to die. And like the cool idea of the little child character that's a babby that grows up and is now able to participate. No.
Starting point is 01:21:00 I'm down with that in theory on paper. Yeah, because that was Amuro, that was whoever. Totally on board with that. No, not this kid. Fuck that kid. Not this kid. And once again, guys, lock the suits. Sure.
Starting point is 01:21:12 Seriously. Sure. It's stupid now. It's stupid. Okay, I don't know how far in, but... They haven't left Hong Kong in, they haven't beaten the Psycho Gundam. Okay. So that thing has no weapon, that's the weirdest part.
Starting point is 01:21:25 Well, it's because it's- It's got the chest thing. It's this whole- It's the- Yeah, it's- It's- It's- Because-
Starting point is 01:21:30 And it's mind control? The end of a Gundam series, at least in many cases, often gets towards magic. Yeah. It just head straight towards the level of magic. Yeah, there's magic. There's a lot of magic here and it's very weird. How about the Haikishiki? Haikishiki is cool.
Starting point is 01:21:44 Yeah. It's cool. That's fitting, right? It's a good- You're like, if he has to ride in something that doesn't look like a xion suit. So there is a moment, and I'll fill you guys in because you obviously don't know, but Char, he always has his red or pink or whatever the fuck, mechs. And there's a bunch of dudes with red mechs on the other team, and I assume at some point
Starting point is 01:22:04 they're like, okay, we should probably change that, right? So they paint it gold, not yellow, not metallic. This shit is glossary gold, and one of his teammates literally goes, man, the colors of your mobile suits always become really popular. But I look at it and go, really, man? Fucking solid gold? Like, hey, if I can't fly red, and I can't tell people who I am. It's ostentatious.
Starting point is 01:22:36 You need to feel my ghost dick. You need to feel my ghost presence on you. I really appreciate a bunch of characters that don't know that he's Char going, man, Char's a fucking piece of shit coward. Fuck Char. Sure. Like right in front of his fucking face. And how about that elevation of, not elevation, I'd rather, escalation of politics where
Starting point is 01:22:59 Titans, good idea on paper, what the fuck happens. There's one thing that I'm really disappointed on in Gundam in general. I was really disappointed. I did some wiki reading about 79, and there's a bunch of stuff that Xeon does before the war that's never, ever, ever gone into. The part where they gas all those colonies. That's not ever mentioned in the stuff that I'm watching so far. Yeah, but guess what?
Starting point is 01:23:24 What? Titans gas fucking colonies. No, no, it's not about them. It's just like, I feel like it will have given the viewer a much better feeling in 79, like just how bad Xeon is, that Xeon, like, gassed 2 billion people, and then threw their corpse colonies at Earth. Well, throwing, well, that's, the idea of corpse colonies in general should give you an idea that it's like this used to have people in it, and now it doesn't.
Starting point is 01:23:49 Those guys are dirtbags. And also, Willie, I should settle something, finally. I always had, we would always, I'd be like, oh, fucking space Nazis. Yeah. On principle. I want to make it clear that I had a very limited understanding of Gundam, but even then, I now realize that every time that I said that, it was exclusively towards the principality of Xeon.
Starting point is 01:24:12 It was not towards... Space noise in general. Space noise. It was against Xeon and their allies. Because I didn't even know that Gundam had anything other than Xeon and its allies. And I knew that Xeon had done a bunch of harsh ass shit. Would you be willing to narrow that down to say the Zabis and the direction? No, I would not.
Starting point is 01:24:33 Xeon's, Decoon, you'll fuck the original philosopher? No, not the original. They were fine. That's what I'm talking about. Like, the Castile's family. Sure, they're, those dudes are fine. But the war in which everyone is on board with gassing billions of people? If you're on that side, you gotta go.
Starting point is 01:24:54 Exactly. No, then we're on the same page. And that, and that paints, that paints Char in a totally different light. Because the original... Because Char was on board with that. He was willing to let go of his revenge for this, for this team? No, no, no, no, no, no. There's two, there's two important things.
Starting point is 01:25:13 He won, he never lets go of that. Well, yeah, no. And the only other priority he ever takes up in, in like, instead of the revenge part is... Future for new types. Future for new types. Exactly. So, Char's not that piece of shit. But, but...
Starting point is 01:25:27 Yes. And, and, and, and like, that's why, and like, people who are like, actually like, no, for real, Zig Xeon and stuff are all, like, in, in many cases, we're like, the original struggle was real. Yes. And that's what you rep, and that's what we mean. Sure. But the, the actual, what it turned out to be of Xeon through most of its lifetime is like,
Starting point is 01:25:47 uh, Kings Abbey or whatever talks to his son is like, you know, you're a lot like Hitler right now. You ever hear of Hitler? Yeah, yeah. That dude, yeah, you remind me of Hitler a lot. Never heard of him, but I am a disciple of Hitler. I'll show you the power of Hitler. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:26:03 Fuck those bastards. But I just don't, just, you know, sometimes there's good reasons to use a colony laser. I'll just put it that way. Yeah, sure, sure. And, uh, in terms of video games I played, I played a lot of Enter the Gungeon, which did any, Matt, you've been playing it? Yeah, I played about like 15 minutes of it. Oh, that, that, that's it?
Starting point is 01:26:25 That game is amazing. Not enough to like, even mention it. That game is fucking sick. It's really. I am so bad at it. I am, I am terrible at it. I was, it was, it was fun to play it for the first time and have Pat say multiple times, oh, you just passed when I did, oh, you just passed when I, oh, stop and do this quest for me.
Starting point is 01:26:50 Yeah, no, that happened. And it's just like, I'm twin stick roll. I'm really, really bad at, at, there's something to do with bullet health recognition patterns that my brain just goes, uh, but it's. By the way, this is like regular bullet patterns. It's not bullet health at all. It's not, yeah, some of the, some of the bosses can get bullet health. Yeah, the bosses are.
Starting point is 01:27:10 The bosses are where I have the trouble. Did you play, um, um, Nuclear Throne? No, I played it after this, after Liam said this is like Nuclear Throne. It's, it is, um, it's so good. It's very good. It looks really solid. I really like what they're doing with the pixel art. The gun design is, is goofy.
Starting point is 01:27:28 I really wanted to like Binding of Isaac. I really, really wanted to like it. But the Binding of Isaac first two levels is just a chore. And this feels good right away. And the music's great. Well, like we, like spoilers, whatever, we actually like recorded a video for it, right? And I wasn't, I wasn't like even excited to play it. I was like, can we record this other thing?
Starting point is 01:27:53 And then we started playing it and I took the controller and I was like, oh man, this just feels fucking fun. Like I didn't even buy it before the time. And I was like, shit, everything just feels really satisfying. Because me and Woolly played it at PAX East last year. And we were like, yeah, I can't wait for it. I got hands on at PAX and I stood at that booth for a really long time. It probably was rude.
Starting point is 01:28:17 It has probably a bad idea, but it was great. It has completely taken over my, I don't have enough time to play Pillars of Eternity right now. Yeah, but fuck you put this in. So like, it's like, oh, I did all the stuff I need to do at the house, but I got to be at the podcast in an hour. So I got 15 minutes to burn. That's, that's not enough for Pillars of Eternity. I can squeeze in a match of Rising Thunder.
Starting point is 01:28:37 I can squeeze in a match of Rising Thunder. I can play three matches of Street Fighter. I can play a one run. Whatever. Into the dungeon. And it's, it's killer. Also Street Fighter's good. Except for that Alex.
Starting point is 01:28:50 Those Alex bugs are a problem. And I guess we can, we can go right into the news from there. It's not really news, but there's Alex bugs. There's Alex bugs. There's one bad one and there's one real bad one. I don't know why you're so like up into this one. And the, the second one is nuts. The, the gameplay one?
Starting point is 01:29:09 Yeah. Okay. Cause I was going to say like this happened in Street Fighter 4 as well. The first one is like annoying and kind of minor. So the second one is, and it's not the only type of it's, only bug of it's type that's been popping up as well. There's a couple of them. Laramika corner thing is super guns.
Starting point is 01:29:24 Oh bummer. There's, there's issues where characters are getting different, player one side and player two side have a different thing happen. I remember when you remember when Ultra came out, like a lot of Cody's moves were just going through people. Some weirdness. Like, yeah. As far as I understand it,
Starting point is 01:29:36 Alex's V skill is to roll back your game into a shittier version of it. That's true, right? That's his V trigger. No, yeah. So, so basically what happens is if you play as Alex and you go back to the character select screen and Alex is, No, no. He has to be your favorite character.
Starting point is 01:29:56 Yeah. Well, that's what I'm saying is. Okay. Yeah. If you, as long as when you go, when you play and you go back to the character select screen and it's on Alex because he's listed. Because he's your favorite. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:05 Or if you play a match that has, I think it's like, you can also have that happen if you pick like a second player goes to him and then it goes back, go back to him or something along those lines. Like, there's other ways. The important is if you roll into the character select screen and you're starting on Alex. Starting on Alex.
Starting point is 01:30:21 You move to other characters and you're getting the pre-patched versions of the characters. You're getting the 1.1 versions of them. Weird. What a crazy bug. Like. And ridiculousness. Hard to find.
Starting point is 01:30:33 I was thinking about that the other night. Me and a mutual friend of ours were talking about it and we were like, finding that bug would be. That's a wacky one. Like, even if you got into the match, you have to perceive that the character is back. And the changes are minor. No, and so you would have to test for them. That's a crazy bug.
Starting point is 01:30:52 So QA team went in and then they picked every other character to make sure they play and they showed up and the characters played, but the version difference didn't get noticed. You know? So. Crazy. That's a bad one. And then the second one, that's way worse in my opinion.
Starting point is 01:31:07 Yes, definitely. In everyone's opinion, should be really, is sometimes when you do his V trigger skill, which lets you go behind the character. It does big clothesline. He ended up behind them. You go right into the throw, which should do a big German suplex, and it whiffs completely.
Starting point is 01:31:24 Yep. When that whiffs, it shouldn't whiff, first of all. But sometimes it does. And when that whiff happens, you can no longer land that whiff throw ever for the rest of that match. Furthermore, if you hit rematch and keep playing, you will never land an exit. In addition to that.
Starting point is 01:31:41 Until you exit the session and load up a match with a different character, and then reload out. Furthermore. Hither too. So yeah. All your fight money gets erased. So gameplay issues like that, no good, because landing a combo and then doing that means you didn't land it.
Starting point is 01:32:01 Yeah. No, no, that's a shitty bug. I feel like this is not a defense, because this is fucked up. But I feel like this is the reality for a new company. Not a new company, but a company new to this kind of rollout. Rolling out characters in this manner. One by one. Yeah, like, I bet Balrog, when he comes out this month,
Starting point is 01:32:19 he's going to have something. It might be super minor and impossible to find, but something will happen. There's going to be something. It's like, it's so hard to catch everything. Because it's too soon. And because it's not a company that's experienced in changing the game every month. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:35 No, the stuff that they're going to start like, they're catching it now, and you're going to see the results of them catching it in like two characters from now. Yeah. Not in the next one, you know? Because, yeah, that shit sucks. And I have a strong feeling that once this is fixed,
Starting point is 01:32:50 you will no longer see any weird version rollback bugs in the future. Yeah. Because they will now test for this. Because why? Well, they'll fix the bug. Why would they? No, but why would they even think to have tested for this scenario? Yeah, that doesn't happen.
Starting point is 01:33:03 And why would your TQ18 catch that? Why? Yeah, no, exactly. Like, it's an insane bug. So it's like, guys, we have to do the version testing phase. Smoke test. And the weird part is that usually, when we do these types of things in QA,
Starting point is 01:33:17 like, you do like an integrity check on the files of the game to see if there's anything that changes with your patch. And when your patch clears and it says, oh, no, it's OK. Everything in the integrity is fine. That should be good enough, you know? But if all the previous data that was there still exists and just gets loaded in, then...
Starting point is 01:33:40 Which it should. Because if ever they do a bad patch, they need to roll back. You need to be able to roll back. But you'll never be able to completely know that your integrity is what it should be because of that. And the reality is, I think both of us have worked on games where you pick characters and stuff, not necessarily all fighters. But when you get down to it,
Starting point is 01:33:59 the QA team is never composed of 90% people who know that genre through and through. Who'll detect you. You have your 10% of the team who could get that and are killers, exactly. And then you have the 90% who could just be doing any game. And at any given point, half of those killers are standing up around the rest of the team going,
Starting point is 01:34:23 hey, try this out. OK, you do that. Coordinating stuff. Because they know, so they're the ones that have to coordinate it. No, I find this bug fascinating. Like, it's fucking tricky. Yeah, no, from a QA trenches point of view. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:34:37 That being said, I don't know if I ever talked about it, but their rematch option that they added in ranked matches. Two out of three. Fucking fantastic. It's great. It makes all the difference in the world for matchmaking times. Because also for that fight money growth rate. But it gets so much faster.
Starting point is 01:34:56 It used to be 45 seconds to a minute to fight a match followed by a minute long match. And now it's 45 seconds to get a match followed by multiple minutes of matches. Now I wait 45 and I get two matches every time. 99% of times, the people have rematched. I have one minuscule complaint. What is that?
Starting point is 01:35:18 I wish it was mandatory. I will. That is also it. But I get why it's not because I've been paired up with people that I'm much higher level than. And I've absolutely annihilated them. And then they don't go for the rematch. Because why would they?
Starting point is 01:35:32 They would lose. But now this is what ranking is. That's, I always rematch with the people who destroyed me because I want to see something new. I don't want to fight. But I can understand the person that's just like, I'm just going to lose more ranking points. You know, killer instinct has the two tier system,
Starting point is 01:35:51 which they successfully implement, which is once you get to the killer level, it's mandatory. Prior to being a killer. Yeah, that'd be good. Because I was going to say like, could you imagine you pick up Street Fighter 5 for the first time? You're angry that there's no arcade mode.
Starting point is 01:36:04 You pop into online as can. And then you lose. And you have to play again. It should probably be like, if you're silver or higher, it forces it or something. And if there was a monthly. No, probably gold or higher. No, the way the can monthly system works
Starting point is 01:36:19 is what makes that work. And from my limited experience, I'm only ultra bronze. The ranking system seems to be working because I'm having trouble getting into silver because the silver guys are better than I am. And the people in super bronze are not as good as I am. And whenever I find ultra bronze players, it's like, yeah, we're going to do this.
Starting point is 01:36:38 It's going to be real. Because I suck because I'm not good at Street Fighter anymore. And I never was. Switch back to Bertie. I'm just as good. I was immediately as good with Alex as I ever was with Bertie. It was super weird. I was talking to some of some players this weekend.
Starting point is 01:36:53 And the truth is, is that like character loyalty is always something that I enjoy. It's all well and good. But let's be real. Pick a top tier. The King of Fighters. Select your order. Select your team, whatever.
Starting point is 01:37:08 Pick your striker. You need three fighters to cover your ass because this game has answers for all of your best shit. So get good at more than one character. Speaking of King of Fighters. Speaking of King of Fighters. What do you guys think? We got the reveal of Mui Mui and the Shadow of Yarnham.
Starting point is 01:37:28 The Shadow of Con Ross Saibot. So that little girl is from a Chinko game. Are you serious? Yeah. Okay. She's from SNK Pachinko game. That's kind of neat actually. Guess what?
Starting point is 01:37:40 It's terrible. I like her. What's terrible about it? I think she's... We all hate Pachinko games. No, but it's like cameo character. Like, who cares? This isn't the Pachinko game.
Starting point is 01:37:49 I also don't like her. I didn't know that. I don't care. I think she looks fine. Yeah. I think she looks great. No, same. Since I already don't like her,
Starting point is 01:37:56 this is just another log on the fly. In fact, I think it's cooler that she's from a Pachinko game than nothing. Because I love when characters move between games like that. I find that awesome. To me, more importantly, she's a fighter.
Starting point is 01:38:07 Yeah. And she's doing moves. No, she's pretty cool. And she's doing fight. Yeah. Also, Shadow of Yarnham Man is pretty cool. Sure. I'll take that, whatever.
Starting point is 01:38:15 Wait, really? You like... Oh, so we're not allowed to like the Shadow guy? No, he's cool. When did he say that? I don't know. Whatever. Just because you went, yeah, okay, whatever.
Starting point is 01:38:23 No, he's cool. Okay. I have nothing else to say about him. He's cool. I don't think there is anything else to say about him other than he's cool. I'm sorry. That wasn't dismissive.
Starting point is 01:38:31 It was just like, yeah, he's cool. Because like... You're right. I did say whatever. You're right. Because I mean, you look at him and I look at it and it's like, that guy's too cool. Like, he's forced, cool.
Starting point is 01:38:44 I wish we got... Like they're like, I want to make a character. What should the character be? Cool. Yes. And they write it on the floor. Yes. There is that.
Starting point is 01:38:51 You're right. You're super out. He's like a Kingdom Hearts character that hasn't revealed his face yet. And like... That's super good. That's super good. Like I can imagine him pulling off his face
Starting point is 01:39:03 and he has some bad hair style. His name is Kukri. And Kukri. But the thing about him too is that like, he's cool and he's doing all the cool sand effects and all that stuff. But it's like, I wish... I like characters that are like that
Starting point is 01:39:17 in the way that Lynn was designed. I bet he's another one of those weird inches. Or dual on for that matter. Where you have like... He's not just like, you said forced cool. You actually designed something and you got some stuff going on. Because yeah, hide a guy's face in a hood
Starting point is 01:39:34 and you got yourself a mystery man that can do cool stuff. It's Ash. Ash. Oh, could you imagine? That's an Austin like Vince thing if I've ever seen one of those things. And all they have to do is that in one of his endings,
Starting point is 01:39:49 they're like, why is it that you use sand? He's like, well, because I can't use fire. And there's a tiny little green spark that comes off his thumb. For half a second, his voice cracks. And he's like, Merci beaucoup.
Starting point is 01:40:01 Oh, no, no. Take off his mask and he's rock, but it's rock that's possessed by Ash's spirit. Yeah, there you go. That's how you write it. That's a character. Matt... Matt, three characters in one.
Starting point is 01:40:13 Like a meme from back in the day on Higher Voltage that never picked up. Oh, this is a dank meme. Get ready, people. It was just like a... Get your dank shields up. Shot of Q pulling off the mask. Whose face is it?
Starting point is 01:40:26 And then there's like 80 panels for who it could be. It's Rose. Scotsman's ass. The best one, no. The best one was he pulls it off and it's... It's Q. It's a tanned Clark from Maximum Impact Q. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:40:46 Right? It's Black Clark. That joke is for no one. That's for no one. That's why Higher Voltage was the best. That's for you. It's so inside. I don't know why we're still messing around with the 12th
Starting point is 01:40:59 trailer foreplay. Get to my already. Literally, the pre-orders aren't being withheld until it's confirmed. I think it's because they probably want to spend as much time in the oven with her as possible. Or they know that it's a lie. But it's also like you'd want to save her for like...
Starting point is 01:41:20 I guess so. Like you don't want to put D-listers only. And like Choy as your last character announcement. That's like when we saw that rumble and everyone was like, yeah, Daniel Bryan and then Mr. May Mysterio comes out. And we're like, that's fine. But... Your frustration is supposed to be anticipation.
Starting point is 01:41:40 Anticipation. You know what I hope? I hope she comes out and she has the more interesting secondary alternate outfit from Maximum Impact. Yeah, man, Falcoon wasn't all that bad. That'd be ballsy if they completely changed her design. I'd be in that. That wouldn't be ballsy.
Starting point is 01:41:55 I'd be King of Fighters. As long as they... Yeah, but Mai has never changed her design. In a classic hero. Her default. No, in the main one. Her default. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:03 But as long as... I hope there's alternate outfits in the game. Unless you count... Yeah. So many characters. Since it's 3D models, I think they're going to have alternate costumes. It'd be a waste not to.
Starting point is 01:42:12 I'd be way down with alternate costumes. That would take a lot of the sting off the ugly 3D models. Yeah, because that's the benefit. Yeah. Yeah, they don't cost a billion dollars to make anymore. Yeah. So I get why we'll have to... It could like you better.
Starting point is 01:42:24 Yeah. You know what I mean? It would be a missed opportunity if they... And hey, SNK, that's a way to make tons of money off of whales like us. I would love to see... Now that SNK is back to doing games, I would love to see their 2016 line of here's SNK characters from every game as like cameo costumes.
Starting point is 01:42:42 Cosplay line. Would you pay for it? Like Maximum Impact. Like SNK always used to do, exactly. Yeah. Would you pay for Team Costume Packs? Like Team Fatal Fury Team, whatever. And it's like, I don't know, five dollars for three costumes for one team?
Starting point is 01:42:57 If the game is fun, I'll buy it by the moon. Sell them for $1.99 each, five dollars for a team, and then some crazy one. Me and you got saved on the fact that you can't even buy costumes in fucking Street Fighter yet. But it's coming. I went. You can. Oh, everything's coming. If you level up your character.
Starting point is 01:43:16 You can buy the story. I really need... Like they really need to come out and tell us whether or not we're gonna be able to buy Colors 1 through 10. Cos getting the good Alex Colors was a nightmare. Yeah. Fuck. It sucks.
Starting point is 01:43:29 I got a good tip though, for going through hard mode. Cheat? No. Okay, that was the tip I got. Oh, it was just play with fight request on. Okay. And when a fight request happens, if the round is going bad, accept the request, get kicked back out, and you get to redo that.
Starting point is 01:43:44 I can send you my tip if you want afterwards. Oh, it doesn't just force you? It doesn't just force you, it just asks you, do you want to take the request? The request pops up, and you can go, another fight's coming your way right away, or it can do ask mode, where you have to press start. Oh, I didn't know about that. And confirm that you have a fight. Yeah, that's a huge benefit then.
Starting point is 01:44:02 Because I know with Ken and Ryu, if you literally just mash medium DP, you can get through hell no problem. Hell. Never do anything else. Just mash medium DP. Don't think about it. They can't think about it. They can't fight you.
Starting point is 01:44:17 You will win. Can you double down all the time too? Probably not. No, that's dodgy. You still need to like heal and stuff, but DP only. You'll win. We talked about it a little bit when we streamed it, but now that I put some time into it, my Hisako's at level 40 now, so I need nine more to get her.
Starting point is 01:44:34 Fuck you, you're not gonna get it. To get her color. He's doing it. The final red, just her red skin, when she's all bloody. Because you have XP boosters now, so you can actually do it. That's true. You have to win those matches at level 40. No, you don't.
Starting point is 01:44:48 Oh, you don't? All you have to do is play the character. Oh, shit. Do it. Do it, son. That's all you need to do to get colors. Okay, so we've also got... Now that everyone who hates fighting games is no longer listening to the podcast.
Starting point is 01:45:00 Now that you're all gone, we can talk about the fact that, Yay! Fighting game news. We got a word that Titanfall 2 is happening and we're gonna get more information. We're gonna get swords. That's what we're gonna get. We're gonna get swords and we're gonna get information on June 10th. I feel like adding swords is more than a visual change
Starting point is 01:45:17 because the increased reach has to mean a design change. If you played it for one match at a time, you know exactly what that means. I would just be happy if there's a little baby, tiny, at least single-player thing with a nice tiny little story. I'm sure they're actually gonna have a single player. You're putting swords in it too. I think they're gonna have a single-player campaign. Did you see the teaser, really?
Starting point is 01:45:41 I gotta ask, you played the story, right? Yes. To me, I haven't played the story. To me, it felt like it was a different vibe, but did that feel like more or less what the story was like and a continuing point to it? Not at all. Not at all?
Starting point is 01:45:53 Okay. No. Okay. Because I felt like it was a bit different too, but I wasn't sure. What was similar and accurate is the fact that you are fighting in stages where creatures are just walking around and sci-fi is happening. Okay, okay, yeah. In some interview, they described that the plot of Titanfall 2,
Starting point is 01:46:14 which makes me think the game will have an actual story component, is going to be something like sci-fi versus magic. Yes. Which I can see that easily happening. Okay. Because, again, I'm in... Some of those settings are just... Get in the wizard suit.
Starting point is 01:46:28 Some of those settings are... Yo! Dad, be sick! I put on my Robin Wizard hat. So, a tech wizard hat. I cast Level 3, Dick of the Infinite. It's only Level 3. Spread the battleship that is her ass.
Starting point is 01:46:41 It uses all of my batteries. What I was going to say is some of those stages are just destroyed cities and shit, but the stages that are not that are stages where, yet, you see fantasy creatures just running around. Like the phantoms from Final Fantasy Spirit within. This backpack's a lie, and you can't ignore them. The final spirit is in this can of code. Okay, because I was kind of intrigued by it in that sense,
Starting point is 01:47:08 where I was like, I think this is different, but I don't know if it's home. But I mean, that looks like the opening shot of a longer... Yeah, exactly. Very keen to see it, though. I would love to get in on Titanfall 2. Titanfall was like the one game with the... Still.
Starting point is 01:47:21 Isn't it a PC version game? Now you can, because it's on all three platforms. It was on Origin, and I didn't want to do Origin. And then I got Dragon Age's Inquisition on Origin. Dragon Age's. And then I was like... You can get it on your 360. And then I was like, no.
Starting point is 01:47:32 And it's like... Get it on your 360. I want to play with a PS4 controller. 360 version's console players. Start with Dragon HIV. No? Okay. Did I misspeak?
Starting point is 01:47:41 Or are you just... You said Dragon Age. Oh, well. I heard Age, but... Well, that game's not very good. That's a tough form of Age. Yeah. Resilient.
Starting point is 01:47:51 Resilient. Ancient. Can't just inject the magic on that. That's the sequel to that Dragon Cancer. Hell, geez. Oh, man. Magic Johnson's Dragon. Dragon's Magic Johnson.
Starting point is 01:48:03 What else we got? Dragon Dildo on 7-0. We got to stop this now. Or double down. No. I saw a fantastic comment recently that's like, why do we even have Mr. Snip Snip if Deus Ex episodes like this are coming out?
Starting point is 01:48:18 And I feel like we're having that moment now on the podcast. Why do we even create that character? So... Because he's a gimmick. He's not an actual character. One of my favorite things in the world is... The fact that Mike Tyson's Punch Out is the gift that keeps on giving. So what's new?
Starting point is 01:48:39 This game has so much tech and depth in it, and people have been binding it for years. So many systems. And we just found a new one. Yeah, just a few years ago, too. There was one just like this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we just found a new one.
Starting point is 01:48:52 Apparently, if you toil the earth, you can get zenny. Basically... With microtransactions. There's two visual cues in fights in the... A Sandman fight and a Ball Bill fight. It's a guy with a camera flash. Where it's... No, no, not this one.
Starting point is 01:49:08 That's a different one. This is... No, the original one. Oh, sorry. Yeah, you're describing the camera flash one. Yeah. So this is... My bad, I got confused.
Starting point is 01:49:13 This is an audience member in the background that the moment this character in the background, in the fucking generic, like, crowd... Layer of human faces. Yes. He ducks his head down. And the moment he ducks his head down and goes back up, if you press the button, at that moment,
Starting point is 01:49:30 you will hit the perfect hit to knock the guy out in one shot. What? Well, to be clear, people already knew about the perfect timing to knock him out in one shot and did that consistently. But they didn't know that there was a visual... There's a very... It's like, oh, dude, it's like three pixels.
Starting point is 01:49:43 It's crazy. But that... And that... But it's consistent. That was for Bald Bull, but they didn't have the Sandman one. Yeah, at the time, yeah. And so now we got that.
Starting point is 01:49:52 And if you just look at that guy in the crowd, and the moment his head goes down, Bap, that's the exact moment he's coming at you. It's also worth a special punch. With a special punch. And Honda, I believe. Sorry, yeah, not Sandman. Not Sandman, yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:01 I meant Piston Honda. That's why I was confused. Sorry, I meant Piston Honda. Not Sandman. Because there's the camera flash one that Matt was talking about. That's Bald Bull. That's what I think is on Bald Bull.
Starting point is 01:50:08 Or just his bull smash. But everyone had to do that regardless. Yes, the camera flash was for Bald Bull, but this guy, the ducking head... The beard man. The ducking head is also for Bald Bull. What's the other bullshit we know that Max lefts do slightly more damage than his rights?
Starting point is 01:50:19 Lefts do more damage than the rights. Dude, there's a whole... There's... Done. And there's a really great YouTube video that I wish I could like, but I don't have the name on it. We'll never remember.
Starting point is 01:50:29 But like, the truth is that, yeah, you can go find some YouTube videos on this. If you go to the Game Facts forums, you can find dudes still talking about... An active community of people breaking this shit down. Trying to mind punch out for new tech. When it's a game that's based all about how fast can you do it,
Starting point is 01:50:44 these things will always happen, like Metroid and, you know, whatever. And the fact that the game is fucking amazing is just cherry on the fucking ice cream, you know? So, yeah, man, every time a new punch out story comes out, I get really happy. We've also got confirmation that Let It Die is going to be playable at PAX.
Starting point is 01:51:03 Cool. We've got footage of Let It Die. And... All Liam had to say to me is like, so you can just suplex people. And I'm like, yeah. It's not even a suplex. It's...
Starting point is 01:51:12 What's that side one called again? I always forget. Everything is a suplex. Everything... Okay, I walked the suplex. Well, no, he just doesn't grab him from behind. He grabs him from the sides, like, and... Okay.
Starting point is 01:51:21 But it's like a suplex? I don't know. But you saw it. It was like a suplex. Guess what? It's a wrestling move at the end of the day. Yeah, exactly. I'm excited to play it and either hate it or love it,
Starting point is 01:51:32 because I don't see it being in the middle. My opinion will change greatly depending on whether or not a Lily Burr Gammo costume is available. Is available somehow. I think it looks pretty good. I mean, like, certainly looks polished after all this time. We need to really see, like, a level of it in play, you know? Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 01:51:48 That's why I want to play it. Yeah, definitely. Because if it's fun just to play, then I'll forgive all the weird, free-to-play, online stuff that it seems to be about, unless they've added a single-player thing, which would be awesome. The story is built into it. Okay. Well, I mean, maybe it changed.
Starting point is 01:52:04 Like, it's not single... No, no, this is, like, new info. Oh. The story and the multiplayer are, like, intertwined, and he said the story is very much in line with his normal stories for his games. Which is so dispatch it, stupid. Yeah, with the full moon and stuff.
Starting point is 01:52:18 I hope that the change in, like, marketing and, I guess, like, design... Aesthetic, yeah. ...is not based on, like, them not having faith. Well, they said a long time ago it wasn't working out, so they switched to let it die. Like... You know what I don't like? But they said it's also pretty much the same game.
Starting point is 01:52:35 I don't like when a game has not been released yet and it actually has no release date. And I know it's, like, it's a weird thing to not like, but I don't like seeing a developer diary or whatever where they're already wearing t-shirts of the game that's not... Like, I know it's for the devs, but I'm always like, the game has no release date. Like, you're wearing t-shirts advertising the game,
Starting point is 01:52:57 and I'm just like... Is it similar to that feeling you get when a year before a game comes out, they put out the eSports trailer for a game? Or when they say this is the first in a planned three-game trilogy. That's bullshit. That's bullshit. The eSports is the tiny...
Starting point is 01:53:15 The eSports one is my favorite. The nitpicky version of it. Remember Evolve talking, like, way before the game came out? I was like, we're really planning really hard for eSports. But if you're a dev tech and you've been on this project for two years... It means a lot. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:27 You can wear it to the shirt, man. No, I get it. But like, seeing it in a dev diary and like... Just rubs you the wrong way. It just rubs me the wrong way. There's no real reason for it. I just find it strange. So, Pat, you should mention that, by the way.
Starting point is 01:53:39 And like, so Evolve at the end of the day is kind of tailored to that, because that's kind of the thing. It's like two teams. The other day, I saw the fucking Homefront the Revolution stream they were doing. Oh, yeah. It was...
Starting point is 01:53:52 I wish the camera could pick up the size of my grin right now. The game... Okay. I mean, it played alright when I played it at whatever that convention was. Whatever it was. PAX Prime last year. Played alright. It was fine, actually.
Starting point is 01:54:04 But watching this like... It was a four player co-op mission, where they had to get to the end of the mission and complete all the waves of enemies along the way. Watching this four player co-op mission as they failed multiple times in a row. And these four players weren't the one talking. But they had two e-sports style commentators.
Starting point is 01:54:25 Shoutcasters. Shoutcasting. Over a four player co-op mission was baffling. So they were controlling shots and kills on a... No, they were struggling is what the commentators were doing. Wow, that's fucking weird. It was not good looking. They didn't have competitive up.
Starting point is 01:54:45 It wasn't competitive, and that's not a planned feature. Oh, well then that's very confusing. For the co-op, that's not a planned feature. There's versus multiplayer, but... That's what I mean. Here comes the AI. But it was co-op, exactly. And it was...
Starting point is 01:54:57 These guys shoot red barrels. They didn't have the mode that maybe shoutcasters would be more appropriate for ready. But they're like, but we've got to get it going. And they were just switching between screens, too. They weren't... They didn't have like an overall view. What? What?
Starting point is 01:55:10 I was like a poorly- And it's like you could make that work, like a co-op thing that has that kind of esports thing. But this game did not happen. What is that very plain first-person shooter game that's not Umbrella Core? Umbrella... No, there's another one. Umbrella, whatever.
Starting point is 01:55:25 Isn't it Umbrella Core? There's a new one that hasn't come out yet. Oh, is it the VR thing? No. Umbrella Core. It's Umbrella Core? Yeah, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:55:33 It's the one that's not Chronicles. The one that's not Chronicles, but come on, it's really just a sequel to Orc. Yeah. And one of the preview coverages for the game is they just released like 10 esports matches with commentary that were just the worst, just the fucking worst. And it was the commentary, like the game looks fine. The commentary was like... It looked really fine, I guess.
Starting point is 01:55:59 Yeah. But like just... The commentary was bad on those, I remember. God damn it. You can't help but get that feeling that like you're afraid that this is going to look like another first person shooter that's forgettable and you're trying to force its competitiveness. That's what Homefront the Revolution looks like. And you're trying to force its competitive angle on people because you've got nothing else.
Starting point is 01:56:20 So here's the deal, Woolly. And it was a co-op. Instead, you force it to look like a generic competitive first person shooter that has esports elements. Like it's tough to toe the line, but everyone's fucking it up. And it's like, you know what? Some people get a free pass. Street Fighter gets a free pass.
Starting point is 01:56:40 Starcraft gets a free pass. But they don't have to force it. Counter-Strike gets a free pass. Yeah, they don't even have to force it, though. They don't have to force it, though. Yeah, exactly. It just happens because the games are competitive. No, but I mean like CSGO and Starcraft 2.
Starting point is 01:56:52 Games that were built and they said, hey, this is the replay. Because everyone's willing to accept it instantly. Because it is just assumed by everyone, but yes, this will become an esport, right? But if you're starting a new or rebooting, like something like Operation Raccoon City or whatever, just fuck off. I'm interested. I don't think this is going to happen. To be very clear, I don't think this is going to happen.
Starting point is 01:57:19 But could you imagine they rolled Resident Evil umbrella core into the Capcom Pro Tour? I do not think this is going to happen. But could you imagine like they did that? It's for pros in all games. And then they have Monster Hunter versus on the side and shit. No, imagine for a second, if you will, if esports really, really dug itself like it's there. But it really late. All right, folks, we're all there setting up their games.
Starting point is 01:57:48 Okay, we're after her story nationals. Oh, shit. Yeah, yeah. Nice one. They pieced together the first piece of evidence. Yes, yes, that's true. Good search query. Good search query.
Starting point is 01:58:01 Oh, good. Oh, here they come. Here they come, they're catching. Fucking yeah. No, this is embarrassing. That dragon cancer nationals. And whenever you have to, whenever you, again, whenever you have to like show off your gameplay and you can't just let it speak for itself, you've got to get a shoutcaster over it.
Starting point is 01:58:20 Yeah. Fuck off. If you're concerned that your gameplay doesn't look good and you think your trailer is not quite perfect with shoutcasters on it, don't post it. Because you know what it is? Don't post it. You know what it is? Delete that audio layer.
Starting point is 01:58:32 It's too much. It's live. It's live in an event. You're trying to create a context and there's no reason for it. My favorite alternative to that is like what you get at what you get at Tokyo Game Show where like every company has like a scheduled stage event. Yeah. And unfortunately they're in Japanese, so I don't take a lot away from them.
Starting point is 01:58:57 But this company gets on stage for an hour, two hours, and they just play through each of their games with the directors just talking about their games and stuff. Just hanging out. And it's like, yeah, that's better. And we get some of those where we'll get like a 10 minute video with the director in a little interview. But I really like that live setting on a stage with the fans around. I totally agree.
Starting point is 01:59:15 And they're just talking on stage. You know what's the opposite of that? That's the worst? What is the opposite of that? Hey, we brought this into a TV studio so that this idol can play this game badly. And get nowhere. While everyone around them goes, oh, oh, boy. Picture in picture.
Starting point is 01:59:33 Nothing. Yeah. I remember the zoom in on that face. The very first gameplay demo of Dark Souls 1 was just this arduous broadcast. Just it was the world. It's always a dude. It's always a dude with glasses sitting next to the most attractive woman in the world. And they're just looking at gameplay footage.
Starting point is 01:59:53 And you're not you. You can't look at. But hold on. But they're freaking out on 15 minute dance break. Like, wait, stop. Wait, what are the other people on Nico Nico thinking as they watch this? I need to know. W.W.W.W.
Starting point is 02:00:06 Overlay that those comments on the video. I need to know what others are thinking right now. I don't know what to think. I mean, it's not our culture, but I assume that I'm assuming there. No one freaks out as hard as like North Americans would. Let me just see the fucking game. I'm sure over there it's like very polite. Not to ask where the gameplay footage is.
Starting point is 02:00:25 I have a strong piece of advice for any of the people doing everyone the service of restreaming Nico sub's Nico streams through some other service. Please turn the text overlay off. Yeah. Please turn the text. But how do we know when everyone's laughing? Please. You know what?
Starting point is 02:00:41 It's a visual laugh track. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. It's a visual fucking laugh. No, it's Twitch comments, dude. But on Twitch.
Starting point is 02:00:50 No, I know. But that's it's the same thing. He's right. It is the same thing. It's just Twitch comments. It is. But on the video. But OK.
Starting point is 02:00:57 Why do you keep Twitch comments on? Yeah. Yeah. Why do you turn Twitch comments off? It's the same thing. But you can't turn them off. OK. The positioning is a little different, but it's the same thing.
Starting point is 02:01:07 Hey, Wally. Can you turn them off? Hey, Wally. In the videos we've uploaded of streams, the comments are on the video. In the first one because people asked me to put them. But why are they on the video? Because people asked me to put them. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 02:01:18 Personally. It's the same difference. No, but here's where my attitude is. You're right. Japan is right about everything, Liam. No, I don't. But no, they're not. Liam, the difference in my attitude, though,
Starting point is 02:01:29 is the fact that one is at least separated into a different area and the other is on the gameplay. Separate, but no, just like there's an off button. I know. OK, yeah. But I'm just saying, like, I'm saying in general, the attitude of like, if you're watching TV even and they have the shit scrolling over the fucking footage,
Starting point is 02:01:49 it's so ridiculous. Also, the thing about that stuff and I feel And obnoxious because it's on top of the footage. I feel like Watamote totally nailed it, where she's watching some like voice actor talk or whatever and then he makes a joke and Tomoko just stares at it with her dead eyes and just starts mashing the W.
Starting point is 02:02:08 Like when I'm watching TGS or whatever, I kind of like having them on because it's like, it's fun to see the pops a little bit. Not. Especially because you don't get the pops in Japanese audiences. When you watch E3, you hear the crowd clap and you hear them boo when AT&T is a provider. The most life you'll get is watching those girls freak out
Starting point is 02:02:28 at the JoJo billboards downtown. Sure, yeah. Exactly. The video billboards. Dio showed up. Like I would never, I would never want to watch. You've been practicing. Like I would never want to watch a show with that on
Starting point is 02:02:40 or anything, but like a press conference or whatever, like a live event was fine. I don't think there's a single thing I can think of where I would prefer it to be scrolling over the footage as opposed to in a bar on its own on the side or just not there perhaps. 50 Cent might be a part of Predator. Fuck.
Starting point is 02:02:58 What? No, 50 Cent is telling people he might be part of. Is he acting as the Predator? No, he's just going on radio stations like, yo man, I might be in Predator. And they're like, really? He's like, I don't know. And he did it twice.
Starting point is 02:03:15 He went on two sets of radio stations. I'm in Predator. He just started saying it. But this is how some actors, especially someone who's in 50 Cent's thing where it's like he doesn't have a lot of money anymore. I'm broke now. And then you hustle.
Starting point is 02:03:28 Yeah. I'm in Predators and the producers of Predator go, is he? Get killed by Predator or die trying. What would you rather see 50 Cent do? Would you rather him? Flood on the sand too. Fight.
Starting point is 02:03:43 No, fight the Predator. Not fight the Predator or be the Predator. No, I fight the Predator. I think that 50 Cent should take the role of no, of the role that King Woolly did in Predator 2, in which he's 50 Cent or a 50 Cent analog. And he's a tough badass. And he's like, yo man, this is shit happening.
Starting point is 02:04:06 He's got his crew. He's got his entourage. And the Predator tears through him to show how scary the Predator is. And the Predator murders him super fucking hard. And 50 Cent's like, well, at least I died trying to get rich. And he tears 50 Cent's skull out and it's crystal. That would be cool.
Starting point is 02:04:25 It's crystal skull. That'd be cool. But I think we're more likely to get Predator chases someone into a 50 Cent concert. And then perhaps they end up on stage. And then 50 pulls out his gun. And then the Predator kills him. Quickly Predator hit that big ass ramp.
Starting point is 02:04:40 Everyone thinks it's part of the show. And then Predator just freaks out and kills him in all his cars. And then Predator grabs a mic. Yeah. Then he can remix people's voices super easily by himself. He's his own mixtape. He's a beatbox and mixtape from space. I'd go see that show.
Starting point is 02:04:59 Yo, I'd go see Jerry in G-Unit. Yeah. And then he adds to his fucking talk boy the 50 Cent sound clips. I got shot in the face. Predator talk boy. I would love a movie that just started off like a serious Predator movie and then just went wildly off the rails. It became about 50 and Predator on tour.
Starting point is 02:05:15 It's like young Predators trying to buy stuff with his dad's credit card. Credit card. No problem. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's a good stuff. It's pretty good. Good hustle, Fitty.
Starting point is 02:05:27 I'm still really pissed that this Predator movie is not coming out until like 2018. You'll be dead. Don't worry about it. I know. I was looking at it. I'm like, there's no way else you'll wake up and you're like, oh, I feel like shit today. I'm probably going to die. Oh, I'm going to die before this movie.
Starting point is 02:05:40 I'm not going to see the new Predator movie. That's how I felt about Final Fantasy XV. We'll see. You know what you might make it. Yeah, I might. Well, speaking of things that make you get excited and then you go, but oh, you look and it's like God of War, four art leaks, nor setting pictures. This is exactly my fucking reaction.
Starting point is 02:05:58 Wasn't this last week? And then where this is live on the podcast. You got to hear this reaction. Right. And then and then you see the pictures and everything. And then there's Kratos. So, so I want to I want to bring in the door. I want to break down the moment more clearly because it did happen last week on the podcast.
Starting point is 02:06:16 And it was Liam goes breaking news. There's God of War pictures. And you were in the process of handing Woolly the phone and Woolly had not gotten to see any of the photos yet. And you said, yeah, there's Kratos. And he almost just gave the phone back to you without looking at it. Here's the thing though. Oh my God.
Starting point is 02:06:36 I would rather you be in a new mythology and have a new hero because I'm done. I'm fucking done with Kratos. But if you can only do one of those things, I'd rather it be a new mythology rather than be Greek mythology. Yeah, but that's a false choice. That's exactly if you if someone over there thinks that they have to use Kratos. Fuck you. And even then they're using a completely different look for Kratos.
Starting point is 02:07:00 Kratos lost his white ash thing and now he's just a cool looking black guy. Have some fucking balls, man. So that question's answered. I mean, it's, you know, Kratos is popular. Sure. I don't know. Just on the basis of have some balls, like Kratos is popular. They're not using them just for that.
Starting point is 02:07:18 Here. No, here's one a little bit of it. I can solve it. But that's like saying Uncharted 4 just arbitrarily should have a different protagonist because you don't like Nathan Drake. Well, that's why they made Tomb Raider. But that's not it though. Because in a game like God of War, where the setting and theme are
Starting point is 02:07:33 way more integral to the like the whole integral integral to the, to the, to the. Willie. Yes. I have something that will just. There's a difference there. Qualify this for you. It makes perfect sense. Kratos is Roman Reigns.
Starting point is 02:07:47 Yes, I was just thinking this. Okay. Yeah. The people in these circles, the people that are mad obsessed that supermarks, we hate Kratos. But the average fan at home watching the TV who writes in those polls that W.W. keeps saying. Watching NASCAR.
Starting point is 02:08:00 Watching NASCAR. That person likes Roman Reigns and Kratos. See, here's the thing though. It's I actually think keeping him around regardless of his popular is damaging the brand in the sense that the last God of War game was poorly reviewed because they are shackled to this game. I think. They are shackled to this, to this mythology now.
Starting point is 02:08:21 And I think keeping Kratos and changing mythology is literally the best thing they realistically could have done with marketing and. Yeah, I think we all know the last God of War was definitely a bit more than a bit of a misstep ascension. Even like sales wise, it didn't light it up. It was God of War. It didn't light it up in all regards. And Gears of War judgment.
Starting point is 02:08:43 Yeah. Released within a month. Both like the same kind of game. Both kind of just went like, yeah, exactly. My biggest problem is like you're trapped. There are both prequels too. You're like, there's nothing left for that character and there wasn't. There wasn't all that much for him in the first place.
Starting point is 02:08:59 I all I'll say is like, I think in regards to like the series performance and stuff, I think in like PlayStation's newfound success and like their crazy momentum they have, I think they'll do great. And I think, unfortunately, like it'll do way better than Ascension by default. Could we un-crazy Kratos maybe? Could we un-crazy him? You know, but maybe we'll even get there and it'll be a different Kratos. Don't get me wrong.
Starting point is 02:09:22 I'm sick of his design, but his design is still always visually striking. Yeah. But it's a totally different design as good. Yeah, like he's got beard and all this stuff. And the ash is gone. So Paul gone saying this is real, but like that's it. There's a bunch of screens. Well, the people who leaked the art, I don't remember what they were called,
Starting point is 02:09:41 their account on Twitter just got taken down. So it's then death for real. Yeah. And there was someone else corroborated it too. So. God. But I'm excited for Norse. It's those of war.
Starting point is 02:09:52 Maybe, though. Yes, definitely. And the art was really nice. I don't think we ever got it proper. There was fucking the game. Sword art online. No, the human game. Sword art online.
Starting point is 02:10:03 No. Oh, Silicon Knights. Yeah. It's too human. Too human. Yeah, that thing. That, that tries to do it. There was Rune.
Starting point is 02:10:12 I want to fight some obscure Viking monster that I've never heard of. Yeah. I want to fight Grendel. Yeah, that'd be cool. That's not really Norse. Yeah, that's close enough. They'll do it. That's close enough.
Starting point is 02:10:23 They threw lots of Roman red shit at them. Sweden, Finland, and Norway. They're all basically the same country. Roman Reigns fans, man. Bork, bork. It's all, that's all their fault. It's all their fault. It's all their fault.
Starting point is 02:10:33 So, so to get out of the fucking stadium, right, you have to go through this gigantic underground passage that takes on for them. But Roman standing at the end, pushing you back. It's a huge throng of people. Like everyone shoulder to shoulder. And behind everyone, there was a chant. It goes, we love Roman. And then it was like, by the voices, maybe five people that were all together.
Starting point is 02:10:53 And they were 12-year-olds. And then everyone else goes, no, we don't. And then you hear like the reverberations. And you hear, we love Roman. Like it got less and less powerful as a way. And they stopped. No, we don't. It was hilarious.
Starting point is 02:11:09 You shouted it down with your, with your power. With your manpower. The Roman Reigns fans are the ones that voted for the Sword Art Online OPs as the best OPs. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Sorry about this. Sorry about everything else. That and fans of good anime.
Starting point is 02:11:22 Sorry about this. If you're listening, Meguma, because I'm not sure if you saw him in Meguma. It was like, I like Roman Reigns. And I was like, dude, I'm so sorry. I've been, I've, I've been like watching a fuck ton of Mother's Basement videos and catching back up. And I went through that Sword Art Online one. Dude.
Starting point is 02:11:38 Oh my God. I can't believe you. You have fucking nothing. That was what it was. Like you have a taste, but you need a big mouthful. You need to get in there. I'm so happy. You need to feel it.
Starting point is 02:11:51 I'm happy about all the spoilers I got by watching. You should just watch Sword Art. I will never, never. I will never. So put Sword Art on. Dude, you're lost, bro. Put Sword Art on the shelf next to Binary Domain. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:12:04 Yeah. As Good Things Woolly hates. Good Things I Hate. All that, all that good shit. And Binary Domain goes on a higher shelf too. What's the gun season called? GGO. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:12:17 Gun Gale Online. All that gun gale quality content that I'm missing. Gun Gale is nowhere near the worst. Yeah, no, Alphime is the worst. Alphime is the nightmare. But Woolly, you don't understand. His sister's boobs are so big. And guess what?
Starting point is 02:12:31 Guess what? She's not his real sister. They're just, they're just cousins. They're just cousins. Just cousins. It's not creepy anymore. It's not creepy if they're just cousins. It's fine.
Starting point is 02:12:41 They're cousins. Totally fine. Those are cousin titties. Why would they, why can't they just be strangers? Why would they write it to- Fuck your cousin for more time on the clock. They need to, they need to be related because otherwise you wouldn't meet a girl like that
Starting point is 02:12:54 because I'm a loser who hangs on MMOs all day. Exactly. You know, I didn't talk about this before, but fuck it, I can, I'll steal two minutes. I measured my room recently and found out that my room can totally, my living room can totally do the room scale VR shit for HTC Vive.
Starting point is 02:13:09 So that's a danger now. But you still have to get rid of all your furniture. No, actually, with the furniture it still totally works. So that's an ever-present, like, clicking danger now? Can't wait till you get trapped in it. God damn it. Didn't sound like you had any interest in it. Well, I saw the stuff that was happening to Oculus
Starting point is 02:13:28 and how it was reporting on all of your, your boner pictures off Facebook. And then you decided to get it. Yeah, and I was like, no, that's not good. People need your boner pictures. Yeah, well, no. No, no, Mr. Zuckerberg. I feel like-
Starting point is 02:13:39 Not this one. I feel like having a laugh tonight. I better download these pictures. Yeah. Uh, so we were talking about- Stop looking at my boner pictures, man. We were talking about Quantum Break earlier, but we didn't break out into-
Starting point is 02:13:51 We didn't break out into- What? We didn't break out into- Oh, oh, oh, hey! Oh, hey! Who hired this guy? Willie, Willie, stop. We don't have time for these stories.
Starting point is 02:13:59 Oh, oh, oh, oh. Let's make some more. Oh, man, you know what was a terrible James Bond movie? Quantum of Saw-Fuck-Me. All right. Just too far. I was going to say, well, what choice news stories do you have on Quantum Break?
Starting point is 02:14:14 Well, I'm just trying to break the news that Quantum Break is the best-selling new Microsoft Studios IP of this generation. No, they did not. That's suspect. But fortunately, we can reflect on Rise and Sunset Overdrive, which I think are the top-selling other ones. And you could probably extrapolate from that a little bit.
Starting point is 02:14:34 Oh, news. So yeah, I was about to say- Yeah, new IPs. Yeah, new IPs. I'm like, no, I was- No Halo 5, no killer instinct, probably. And shout-outs to the audio setting that lets you turn off the copyrighted music for Let's Plays and Streaming.
Starting point is 02:14:49 That's kind of neat. Anything that has copyrighted music. My only question is, for those of you who obviously played this normally, does that- I didn't hear any licensed music yet. I haven't noticed any yet. Is there any licensed music that's key? Not that I've noticed yet.
Starting point is 02:15:04 Because licensed music was used all over Alan Wake. In Alan Wake, who was in Escape. Okay. Because if it's just like a radio object sitting on a table- No, it's one thing. So far, it's been nothing. But I'm sure it's coming. Because if it's a really important moment,
Starting point is 02:15:19 it would suck to not have that. Yeah. But I understand. Nothing yet. What a helpful feature. Good. By the way, in case- Because it didn't come up, the show does not have,
Starting point is 02:15:27 of course, an opening or an ending. It just goes in and out from the game. Weird. So there's no song there either. Oh, I kind of hate that. I wanted to have an opening and an ending. No, because it doesn't feel like you started something new. Because you're like, oh, it's just the rest of the story.
Starting point is 02:15:40 It's like watching the enter the Matrix cut scenes. It's like when you get to an FMV, exactly. So only have to stream it. Because it doesn't fit on the desk, because it's 78 gigs. You have one more story under the quantum stuff that I wanted to touch on really quickly. Touch the quantum. Under the last quantum break.
Starting point is 02:15:55 Touch it. Oh, yeah, man. We got a good look at- Well, I was going to bring these two- There's two things together here. Oh, what? There's two unreleased prototype arcade things that popped up. More?
Starting point is 02:16:07 So the first one is Galloping Ghost. They've got some Beavis and Butthead game that they got working. An arcade game. Apparently only two other places ever had it existed. MTV. They're seven of them. Has the cab- oh, seven? There's seven of these cabinets in existence, it seems.
Starting point is 02:16:23 Cool that one fell into their hands. They got it working. They needed 3DO parts to get it working. And the only notable thing is you've got the- There's two buttons in the game and- What are they? Beavis and Butthead. Well, there's a Beavis stick and there's a Butthead stick.
Starting point is 02:16:39 Yeah. The first button is cool and the second button is kick-ass. Oh, I wish it was suck. So. Cool and suck? That's good. I can't wait to- I'm going to play that when I go.
Starting point is 02:16:51 I hope someone dumps the ROM soon. I'd be really good. No. Hey, if you're listening to the podcast, really, really- Why did you come to our store? Really, really early. And you can get on this. There's a Steam pricing error where you can get Dark Souls 3 on the Mexican store
Starting point is 02:17:06 for 79 cents. Yeah, but it's region lock. Yeah. So, Mexican listeners- Oh, come on. Check it out. That's going to be corrected in a minute now. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 02:17:13 What's the other unreleased game? It's Goofy. The other unreleased game is Unnamed Unknown Neo Geo Fighting Game. Yeah, I saw this one this morning. It looks like it was a D&D game or something. It looks like it- Yeah. It looks like, yeah, because-
Starting point is 02:17:24 Maybe they went to SNK before Capcom. It's a fucking- All we have is a character select screen and some screenshots here. And one, it looks like a thing for reals. The sprites are there and they're doing stuff. It looks like a cross between Last Blade and, like, French anime. And the only other thing we could discern is that of these characters, there's three grooves for each one.
Starting point is 02:17:45 Lawful, neutral, and chaotic. So, variations. Exactly. Mortal Kombat ripped it off. I'm sad that this never got finished. Oh, wait. That looks terrible. By the way, new stage art that looks great.
Starting point is 02:17:57 I think the stage looks cool, man. In game, though, those sprites are awesome. Look at that Mortal Kombat stage. It's in the bottom right. I don't know about that. No, look at that one. That's Mortal Kombat 2 stage. Yeah, no Mortal Kombat.
Starting point is 02:18:07 I would love to play this. I would love to play this. Oh, totally, yeah. Apparently, like, three of the characters work. And this was basically just a rom that this guy got off of, like, an online auction. And it has, again, no name, no- It's completely unknown what it is. It's unreleased fight game.
Starting point is 02:18:24 And yeah, the sprites missing and all kinds of shit. So that's fun. I hope we get more footage. Please do it if you can. Sub would do this. Uh, you guys see the trailer for Rogue One? Yeah, yeah. Absolutely.
Starting point is 02:18:37 Looks fine. It was a weird trailer. Looking forward to it. I liked the music cue at the end that was both the Imperial March and the main theme playing together at the same time. I like the part where Donnie Yen's in it. Donnie Yen's cool. And Forrest Whitaker's lazy eye showed up.
Starting point is 02:18:54 Yeah, of course. It's never late to the party. I love that man and his lazy eye. They have to be cast separately. Yeah, I know. It's Ghost Dog. I'm excited for more spaceship shenanigans though. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:19:05 I felt it was a weird trailer. Like it's the teaser trailer, but it felt like it was just throwing you into a bunch of... Did you see the first teaser? No. That was like one and a half seconds of looking at one of the stormtroopers? No. Dude, it was fucking nothing. I'm a stormtrooper.
Starting point is 02:19:20 It was the worst. Bark with me if you're my stormtrooper. Shout out to another scene with Mon Mothma. That's super fun to have. Back from the dead. Good job. And it's the same actor that played her in the prequels that got a scene cut. Nice.
Starting point is 02:19:39 So that was... And now she just happens to be the same age as Mon Mothma. Back from the cutting down floor. So it all works out. All works out. It's pretty cool. Mon Mothma's cool dude. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:19:50 Now when are we going to get some boffins? Because these characters are the boffins. Like we need to... They're going to be getting into their spaceship and they're going to slap a big boffin sticker on it. Okay, here's the problem. Fuck you, we don't actually see boffins. Here's the problem.
Starting point is 02:20:06 Boffins didn't do anything. Because Kyle Katarn got the plans. No, that's been retroactively retarded out of Canada. Just because I think you need to see this. This was the teaser. Look at this shit. I'm writing one. Rob one.
Starting point is 02:20:19 Star Wars. Star Wars. It's just a title. I saw a... A stormtrooper. Like... Like come on. A stormtrooper turned his head.
Starting point is 02:20:28 He turned his head and it's over. The trailer. Yeah. Yeah, that's what it was. That's ridiculous. And it's like literally like a second footage. They got the okay for that. I know you only have so many seconds in the movie, but like come on.
Starting point is 02:20:41 That's all Disney was willing to pan off on. And I tweeted about it, but it's like, you know, enough of these human protagonists. Enough of you're pushing your fucking agenda, guys. It's a twillac up in there. What are we getting a twillac? Yeah, I gave you the answer, Woolly. I gave you the answer. Oh, the DS game?
Starting point is 02:21:01 In a movie. No. No. But that's not the answer though. It is. She was the main hero in a thing. But I mean in a movie. You didn't say in your tweet a movie.
Starting point is 02:21:10 It's true, he didn't say that. So you're super... He shit, Woolly, you lose. Now they'll never have another twillac in anything. Yeah, because they ruined it. Please remove all twillacs from canon. They want to be friends. It's fine.
Starting point is 02:21:25 Yeah, okay. I guess I'll say something like, all right, guys. I gotta get going or whatever. That's good. We're not cutting that. That was done. We're not cutting this. Act to say it right now.
Starting point is 02:21:38 Just touch your wheel. I gotta get going. Everyone, enjoy the last couple of stories. If you want to know what I'm watching or looking forward to, more lucha underground for me. There you go. Have a very happy podcast. Matt, you have to run away now.
Starting point is 02:21:51 You gotta run away, Matt. Run away. Now, we're going to continue the podcast as Matt awkwardly gets his things together and leaves. Give me that USB drive full. Oh, man. That's the best. It looks like I did double-effect.
Starting point is 02:22:09 Holy shit. So we've got the announcement of a new... The realness. We've got the announcement of a new fear-effect game. And it looks pretty cool. Yeah. I mean... I really think they...
Starting point is 02:22:21 No, yeah. I think they not only didn't name... They nailed the art style, but it looks better. So here, did you play fear-effect? I've tried to. Why? What do you mean, tried? I rented it back in the day as a kid,
Starting point is 02:22:33 and I didn't get very far. Yeah. Hey, Leen, did you play fear-effect? I watched most of a playthrough, actually, many years ago. So those games... And after this announcement, I was like, are they on PSN? Only in Europe.
Starting point is 02:22:43 So fuck that. Those games look really cool, but they're secretly pretty bad. And their dialogue's good. Yeah. I had a rough time getting through it. They control dog shit. So thankfully, fear-effect Sedna, this new game,
Starting point is 02:22:56 doesn't play anything like the old fear-effect games. But I don't know if I like that. Completely different genre. Because it's not spin-off, right? What's the point? It's a new game. It's a new one. And it's like...
Starting point is 02:23:08 So first and foremost... Isometric. So first and foremost, this is the first Square Enix IP used in a Square Enix collective game. Yes, I believe... Do you want to pause it? No, that's fine.
Starting point is 02:23:22 That's why I left a hard... That's fine. That's fine. No, it's fine. I think the Square Enix collective... William Mattle just continues. William Mattle keeps doing it. It's had propositions, but none of them...
Starting point is 02:23:32 Got through, yeah. Actually gone through, yeah. So this is the first one using one of their three okayed IPs. I think it was this Gex in Fighting Force or something. Oh fuck, Fighting Force to death. I think it was that, but... Now whatever the case may be with fear-effects,
Starting point is 02:23:45 like, I look at this and I'm like, I want to play this game. No, sure, sure. And that's fair. Like, it looks like it might be a good game. Yeah, and I think the genre switch is okay to me. Just fine. I find it weird making the mainline a different genre.
Starting point is 02:23:57 Like, you have your DMC Devil May Cry, where at least it's in the same ballpark, but I find this kind of an odd step. It's a really big switch. It's a big step. And I've seen a lot of fans who are not content with it, but they're the minority because who's a fan of fear-effects? Well, what I was going to say is,
Starting point is 02:24:14 if there was issues, you know what I mean? Perhaps this is a way of addressing some of those issues. I just feel it's kind of pointless because fear-effect is like that name. What do I think of? I think of the anime style with the animated backgrounds. And that style was 1 million percent like everything that struck out about that game.
Starting point is 02:24:36 So unless it's got... That's not what you get here. Like, unless it's animated backgrounds and that style, then... Have you seen the screenshots? I have not. It looks fantastic. It looks totally like a better version of that. But the characters are way zoomed out and stuff.
Starting point is 02:24:53 Can you throw the screenshot out so I can see it? So you can see the trailer of what the gameplay... You can see what the style of the visuals looks like, where the cel shading is kind of... Like I said, it's a better version of what they used to do back in the day. And the gameplay is isometric. Oh, fuck that.
Starting point is 02:25:16 And that no way. And has the same type of... That's pointless. Art style and the same type of lighting on it. But it's like if you announced the new Dino Crisis and it was like an isometric game. That's like saying, hey Pat, they're gonna make a new 2D Resident Evil game.
Starting point is 02:25:30 New Breath of Fire. And then you show me an isometric Leon in the RPD. Like, pointless. I don't know, I don't agree. I think it'll be a fun game. For sure, for sure. But I... Total Genre Switch?
Starting point is 02:25:44 Even though I'm not a huge fan of the series, like the switch of genres like that on your fans is kind of weird. Totally bad thing. Like... I don't know what to tell you man. Like if a new Valkyrie profile came out and it was a tactical RPG, whoops. Or if a new Tomb Raider came out and it was isometric.
Starting point is 02:25:58 Yeah, but a real Tomb Raider also came out. That's true. You like... That's a spin-off. We know that's a spin-off. And this isn't a spin-off and that's the only reason. But the only... In the same way, if Sphere Effect was alive,
Starting point is 02:26:11 this probably would have been a spin-off, you know what I mean? But it's a dead franchise coming back in a different way. Something, I guess, is better than nothing. It would have been... It makes me look at it and it's like, I'd rather like a new IP than play... I don't know.
Starting point is 02:26:25 Hey. I also don't want to play it because it's the third game and I don't know the plot and stuff, so I'm not really interested. Speaking of Square Enix and IPs that are dead and spin-offs, Nosgoth got cancelled, so fuck that piece of shit. Good. Finally. They finally listened to me and cancelled that game.
Starting point is 02:26:44 Great. That was a fun game while it lasted. All right, shit. You know, I'm really happy about that cancellation because it's not because it's getting cancelled, but because I doubt they're going to have to lay off any, if many, because it was Psyonix who made Nosgoth, and now they're rolling in Rocket League money,
Starting point is 02:27:00 so they'll probably be totally fine, which is great. Yeah, I saw that coming after they closed down Sleeping Dogs as well, so, you know, no surprise. I saw that coming years ago when they announced it. There's the other one we know about that never even surfaced. Never even left the house. Yeah, I do remember. Hey, maybe if they'd listened to me when I said cancel this,
Starting point is 02:27:18 they would have saved a dollar or two. If only you had an ear to the people that made these decisions. I spoke to their PR guy and told him to cancel it, and he didn't, so it's on him. It's not his job. Called him up. He's the PR guy. Well...
Starting point is 02:27:33 He probably doesn't even work directly for the company. He didn't do a very good job, now that it's cancelled. All right, and then we've got the Evolution Studios team, who we talked about last week. Good news for them. They're joining up with Codemasters. Yeah, I'm glad that a bunch of them are landing on their feet. That's pretty good.
Starting point is 02:27:51 It's like if you're in the same city... And you make the same games. Why the fuck wouldn't you just... Yo, guys, come over here. The only real question is like... Let's have a pint. Are you hiring? Right, of course.
Starting point is 02:28:02 I wonder now if this means Codemasters is going to double down, because they, of course, make racing games very much that compete... Oh, sorry. That compete very much with the stuff that Drive Club was. Or if the Evolution guys are going to try to go back to something more like Motor Storm, you know? Now you have two AAA teams who work there,
Starting point is 02:28:21 who make AAA racing games, you know? So... They're going to start on their new game Drive Team. And that's tricky in a world where Forza is a home run every year, and Gran Turismo Sport is out next spring, apparently, so... It doesn't suddenly mean influx of cash, of course. Just start making more games. Double spending, in fact.
Starting point is 02:28:38 Yeah, so... Codemasters must be in a good place, which wouldn't surprise me. They're very conservative, but... Well, they're a skilled-ass UK team, man. They are, yeah. That's good shit. Is that it for stories, or we got one more?
Starting point is 02:28:51 I guess we did have one more. Not really much of a story, but this was another suggestion by Matt. It was the Mondo posters for Castlevania and Silent Hill. Mondo... Oh, they're doing Mondo. Oh, shit, damn. Castlevania and a Silent Hill posters. I haven't seen those at all.
Starting point is 02:29:10 They're fucking gorgeous, and they just kind of serve almost as a depressing reminder of what you're not getting these days. So this is that you have the two Castlevania ones, and then you've got the Silent Hill ones. Yeah, I like the Castlevania one. Very cool. Yeah, definitely. Not much to say.
Starting point is 02:29:25 Not much new... No, they're just cool posters. The Silent Hill one would be a lot better if they weren't using the homecoming design for the nurse, or the movie design. Or whatever. There's different nurse designs. Every single game has a different nurse design. Wow.
Starting point is 02:29:37 It's all subtleties, right? No, no, they are very different. I never noticed that at all. I just thought it was nurse with zombie body, no face. And that's all I ever took away from it. In one, they're regular human beings that have weird growths coming out of their backs controlling them. In two, they have perfectly flat faces with no features that resemble condoms.
Starting point is 02:30:04 In three, they're zombie people. In four, I don't think they're... In four, they're these weird, tall monster creatures with long black hair and garbage bags that burp when you hit them. And in homecoming, they look like they do in the movie. They're all different. Is it...? Hmm.
Starting point is 02:30:24 Okay. And they all mean different things in their respective games. Yeah, well, I'm thinking that the only thing I can think of that I noticed different was like whichever version of them has the hat that's a part of their head, as opposed to looking like a separate hat. Oh, that's the two, I think. You know? But everything else, I never really noticed any difference.
Starting point is 02:30:44 Yeah, and two originally, they had the flat bobble faces that were supposed to burst like a burst condom when you shot them, but they didn't have the tech for it at the time. So they're just flat and featureless. Like a burst condom. Well, because it's a sex metaphor for the story. I did an LP of that game. I talk about that a little bit. You might want to check that.
Starting point is 02:31:05 I'll pass. He makes a terrible game shine. No! That's not even funny! That's not even a joke. That's the meanest! That game's great. You got an email to tell us about how awful Silent Hill 2 is.
Starting point is 02:31:20 You can send it into superbestfriendcat.com. Dude, Silent Hill Umbrella Chronicles needs to fix it. Until that game comes out. Until we get the the Umbrella Chronicles of Silent Hill. At least you can always email superbestfriendcast at gmail.com. Oh, this is hurting me for real! Feel free to just dump ass really hard on it. Well, it's just like Konami did.
Starting point is 02:31:43 You'll never dump more ass. You'll never dump more ass in that H.T. collection. Pull the lever! Whoops, I dropped the whole Silent Hill down there. Oh, wow. Hey, Smithy wants to know, can you tell me why you really hate Kratos? And what he's done wrong so that you guys hate him so much? I feel like you specifically picked this one this week.
Starting point is 02:32:03 I feel like it's that you picked this one naturally. So Matt is not here now, but all of our answers will encompass Matt's answer. We all feel pretty much the same. Honestly, I don't hate him. I'm just kind of neutral. I just I don't like it either. I don't hate him either. I'm so tired of him.
Starting point is 02:32:18 I'm so tired. That's fair. And the reason why I'm tired is like I started a little bit before talking about it. It's like Kratos is a character defined by a single motivator and that's revenge. So in God of War II, his character totally works. Ares tricked him and killed his family and all that stuff. Even then, though. My beef starts way before that.
Starting point is 02:32:39 OK, so Ares tricked him into killing his own family. Even though Kratos knew it was people in there that were totally innocent, they just happened to be his family. So he's cool with murdering Rando Innocence all the time. But now that it's his family, he's like, damn you. So already he's a scumbag and unlikeable. Yeah, to be clear, he's always been an awful person. That doesn't mean he's an awful character.
Starting point is 02:33:06 A horrible person. But in character, at least in God of War I, even if his revenge is stupid, you still can understand the process. And you have that bit where his family is attacked. He's got to defend his family and he fights Ares and he wins and he kills Ares. And his revenge is complete. And as far as I'm concerned, Kratos is completely finished as a character at that point. But then they need to make more God of War games.
Starting point is 02:33:32 So they make him a psycho that just attacks shit for no reason? Well, Zeus fucks him up. No, he attacks shit for no reason. First, he's attacking Rhodes. Well, because he continues to be the God of War. Yeah, but he's out of control and just a nutcase. And the gods are like, stop it. You're doing it too much.
Starting point is 02:33:50 And then Zeus turns on him and then it just becomes... I'm going to kill all the gods then. I'm going to take revenge on Zeus for doing what I deserved to me. And that's kind of where it starts to break because the player is wrong. In that sequence, Zeus should have turned on Kratos because Kratos is a psycho. It's not the player who's wrong. It's Kratos as a gigantic asshole. But and just being like, oh, I shouldn't, you know, I just got to kill Zeus for revenge.
Starting point is 02:34:19 You mean revenge for the thing that he did that was totally justified? Anyway, and he never thinks anything through and just he's so one note. And you get to God of War three where he's killing the gods and every time he kills one of the gods, something just apocalyptic happens to the earth and he doesn't care. And it gets stupid. It gets really, really stupid where he kills Hermes and he kills Neptune. And now the world is a tidal wave of raging oceans and locusts attacking all humans. And he looks out over Vesta.
Starting point is 02:34:53 He's like, I'll get Zeus for this. And it's just like, oh my God, you're the worst. Yeah. You're so boring in your in your generic rage. The reason why I hate Kratos is because he's an unsympathetic, hateable asshole. And he has a backstory that's completely his fault. And he acts as if it's not and then continue and continues to rage on for no reason. And has the story that even if you look past the fact that everything is his fault,
Starting point is 02:35:23 it has the staying power of maybe one and a half games. And instead you got five. And now we got a sixth. If there's six games, there are already six games. Okay. Oh, yeah. Because the PSP one's five. The mobile game that is canon, but I don't PSP games.
Starting point is 02:35:37 Plume of Prometheus. And what's the other one called as neither is called or whatever. There's two PSP games, three main games. Chains of Olympus is the first one. Son of Sparta. And Son of Sparta. Yeah, six games. Son of Sparta brings his brother in and that's his justification in that one.
Starting point is 02:35:51 So we're going to get a seventh game in which apparently it was Thor. Deimos is a badass. Apparently it's it was it was Thor's fault all along. Anyone who's not him, sure, I'll take it. But just it's just it's a character that you had no staying power to begin with. And you were always wrong. My problem with him is always wrong. My problem with him as a vehicle is that he's boring.
Starting point is 02:36:10 And that he this this motivation can't last forever, but they make it last forever. My problem with him as a character is the same as yours. Well, it's it's your fault, Kratos. It's your fault. Yeah, being unsympathetic and hate and hateable is fine. If like the context you're in makes that work. If you have a backstory that lets that that explains why that's the case or whatever that whatever it is.
Starting point is 02:36:34 But instead, he's just stubborn and hardheaded and the obvious dumb things that are clearly like you are to blame. He's like that moment just never happens. And people tell him that in the series. And but but what his answer is is I'm going to have a temper tantrum and continue killing everyone. He's like a three year old. So it's a three year old that gets more and more games to keep killing things. Because he's at one lack.
Starting point is 02:36:55 For me, like I certainly don't love him. Not at all. And he's certainly not like anywhere near like list of characters I particularly like. But he's still way above the pile of gray ooze that is Aiden Pearson Co. That's because at least he has a fucking kick ass design. You're cheating, Liam. What do you mean? You're cheating.
Starting point is 02:37:15 That's not fair. You can't you can you can make anybody look good if you compare next to age. But like he does have a really good design. And a lot of his weapons are fun. His design is cool. I like the white on red and the the symbol. I don't like I don't love him either. For me, he's in the same tier as like Daxter, I guess, where he's just kind of there.
Starting point is 02:37:34 I would put him next to Vex. Sure. It all becomes way worse when sure that character design is great and it's fine. And it looks cool. And then you have to stare at it in every cameo in everything that comes out. Kratos needs a cameo. No one else can have one. It's got to be Kratos.
Starting point is 02:37:54 How many fucking cameos? I would rather show me on the doll where Kratos touched you. I would rather Nathan Drake have been in Shovel Knight. Are there more Kratos cameo games than there are mainline God of War games? If you count the little big planets, probably. Right. Well, I mean, but little big planet also is like Sephiroth and all that. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 02:38:13 I know. As everyone like between Soul Calibur and all the rest. Well, yeah, do you want to count little big planet? Because then the answer is yes. Yeah, yeah. There's four little big planets. If you count a little bit of planet, the answer is yes. Five little big planets.
Starting point is 02:38:24 If you don't, then the answer is no. Is he not in more than six games outside of Little Big Planet? No. Probably. Maybe. PlayStation All Stars. PlayStation All Stars 2. Mortal Kombat.
Starting point is 02:38:37 Oh, he's in Mortal Kombat. Soul Calibur. Shovel Knight. Shovel Knight. That's four right away. Yep. Well, you'd need three more to even it out. No, I'm sure.
Starting point is 02:38:47 I'm sure you can get that. Yeah. Okay. Sure, it's a piece of cake. Maybe he's in Hot Rock Golf. Absolutely more than the title games. Hot Shots Golf. He is in Hot Shots Golf.
Starting point is 02:38:57 Yeah, okay. Yeah, Little Big Planet will be mentioned it, but you can just count that as one if you want. Yeah. There's five of them. Soul Calibur Broken Destiny. Mortal Kombat. PlayStation All Stars.
Starting point is 02:39:10 Shovel Knight. I don't even care anymore. Tear away. Can you please get to an OOF? The Simpsons game. Can we get to an OOF? It's a question. And then...
Starting point is 02:39:20 We've spent too much time talking about Kratos. Yeah. And Robot Chicken. Zeus. So like it's like eight or nine. So more than more than... Zeus, it's all your fault. But like that happens for a lot of characters.
Starting point is 02:39:33 How many games does Shovel Knight in? Zeus, it was your fault. Remember in God of War... Yeah, but he doesn't like rock either. He's just Shovel Knight. Like... I love him. Okay.
Starting point is 02:39:40 You guys remember in God of War 3 where he turns against Gaia over nothing? I didn't play it yet. Over... Willie, did you play it? I'm still working through the second one. I'm never gonna... He's like, I'm gonna kill Zeus.
Starting point is 02:39:52 And Gaia's like, yeah. And then we can do this. And he goes, fuck that. And just attacks all of his allies for nothing. I played God of War 1. I had fun with it despite the stupid backstory. And then I said, I'm okay. I'm had my fill.
Starting point is 02:40:05 I'm good. No. And I don't... I don't feel like I need to play anymore. And if you tell me I'm missing out, then I guess I'll just miss out. Okay. We've got one...
Starting point is 02:40:16 Dude, if the alternative is me playing through... That was sarcastic. That was sarcastic. Like holding a controller, hating the dude I'm playing as... No, the only thing you missed out on is a handful of genuinely fantastic set pieces. Sure.
Starting point is 02:40:29 Cool bosses. A couple cool weapons in three... Yeah. If it was anything as good as the Minotaur, then I would... There's a bunch of good stuff. There's better, yeah. But as far as plot goes,
Starting point is 02:40:41 the only stuff you're missing on that is Ghost of Sparta, which has Deimos. And that's pretty cool. And the last boss, where you tag team Deimos and Kratos against the last bosses. But you haven't missed interesting plot. Don't worry about it, will it?
Starting point is 02:40:54 It's not a name that I hear coming up very often. Don't worry about it. No, not at all. The whole his twin brother thing. Well, because it was like post everyone... I think it was like right when the Vita was coming out and it was a PSP game. It was like a year before the Vita came out or something.
Starting point is 02:41:08 So it was in a nasty spot. Okay, we got one coming in from Oye or Ole. And it is asking, what games do you feel needed? Okay, well, like take a game and what's a game that you think needed an extra boss fight to like help wrap it up? An extra boss fight?
Starting point is 02:41:28 No, I think it needed more regular enemies. Double may cry for. Double may cry for, absolutely. Even not if you have to fight it like twice and... No. Walk down a tall way. No, that's what we mean. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:41:41 And actually, no, there's a very specific boss that you should have been able to fight one more time in the FC4. Best boss in the game is the only one you fight once. Fucking sex. God, I don't know. Like any number of short games, just like... Even just like Transformers Devastation Chora,
Starting point is 02:41:58 like any number of short games, Revengeance. But like... But like Resident Evil 4... No, it's what I wouldn't do for another boss in that game. Like Transformers is short, but like you do duke it out with Megatron and like... No, you run the gamut. With the exception of Unicron showing up, where do you go?
Starting point is 02:42:17 Yeah, no, I just mean like any short game that I've ever played, that I've ever loved. Like I'd love to add a boss to that, but game that needs another boss, I don't know, every Assassin's Creed game. Geez, that's a good answer. Dude, when you play Unity and you get to the boss of Chapter 9, you're instantly like,
Starting point is 02:42:38 oh my god, why didn't they do this before? This is fucking incredible. Yeah. Because it's so good. Boss fights in Assassin's Creed. Yeah, that wins it. Geez. A lot of Western games just don't have bosses
Starting point is 02:42:49 and adding a single boss would add a lot, so I don't know. And last one we'll take from Jackson, and he wants to know... Basically, Axis Games put out a pre-order demo for Guilty Gear Exit Revelator, which contains the full versus... Yeah, this is one of the best things I've ever seen. It's cool.
Starting point is 02:43:08 It's the full game minus online, and I think one character or two. You're missing a couple characters. You don't have Dizzy, you don't have... I don't know, do you have Kyun? You don't have Johnny, but you don't have the other character. You have Johnny, you have Jacko, but you don't have the other character.
Starting point is 02:43:22 You don't have Koum, and you don't have Dizzy. And the rest of the cast is all there. Yeah, all the old guys are there. You can run tournaments with this build. Have you seen the tutorial in Guilty Gear Exit Revelator? No. Best tutorial in any fighting game ever. It was amazing.
Starting point is 02:43:36 What's different from the sign? Okay, it's completely different. Trash that. It's like an obstacle course that teaches you the stuff, and you platform around with your fighting game stuff. It's a blast. That sounds cool. It's really cool.
Starting point is 02:43:50 Like Substace Emissary, but you have to use the fighting game mechanics properly. It's like you're in one fighting game stage, and you go back and forth left to right, and platforms appear, and buttons appear, press the buttons, and fight the stuff. And you get through the stage by using the tutorial mechanics. It teaches you...
Starting point is 02:44:07 Okay, let's do that. And Jacko's guiding you through it with her little ghost. Awesome. Very cool tutorial. That's creative. Is Revelator also going to be on PC, or is that out on PS4 already? I think they're going to...
Starting point is 02:44:19 It's out. No, it's not out anywhere yet. It's definitely not out yet. It's out soon in Japan, but it's not out anywhere. Because they recently put up a little while ago like Sign on Steam, and I would really like for the PC like support on that in the near... I think the fact that they even bothered to release two,
Starting point is 02:44:36 and Battle Fantasia is very telling that they want to catch up. Yeah, I'd be very happy. And the game comes out June 7th. If not this iteration, maybe the next. June 7th. In North America, or...? Yeah, just before EVO.
Starting point is 02:44:50 Just before EVO. Did you see the AnimEvo logo for the anime EVO? No, I didn't. It's great. It's the EVO logo, the triangles, but it's hearts. Yeah, same colors. It looks really good. So yeah, the question is basically,
Starting point is 02:45:05 do you feel that Axis rolled out this demo to... It's very similar to what Street Fighter V did, but do you feel like the way the modes are being rolled out is basically a reaction to Street Fighter V's negativity about not having a story mode and some of that other stuff? No, I seriously doubt it. No, not at all. I don't see that being the case.
Starting point is 02:45:27 Like a lot of the stuff from Revelator is just rolling forward from Sign, and that stuff was way ahead. And even if Sign didn't exist, the Revelator demo's out now. We are, what, April 10th or so? Sure. Street Fighter V came out early February. You can't change that stuff in two months. Exactly.
Starting point is 02:45:47 And I think, dude, the fact that Revelator is an update to Sign is a huge difference in the context of what you're getting the demo for here. Like, if it was the original release of the game and you're getting all this shit in this way, that'd be one thing, but this is a game that you've already bought or some people have already bought. So if they're trying to get you in for another 60 bucks on it,
Starting point is 02:46:10 you know, putting it out, putting out a version like this where you can totally play through most of it without all of it like this is, it's like, I agree with that. That's makes sense. Also, if what you intend to ask is, do you think they're releasing this demo as an answer? Yeah. Also, no, because when you want to make a demo for software,
Starting point is 02:46:26 you have to fork your software and split your team somewhat. And that is very, very expensive to do. That's why a lot of companies stop doing demos because ultimately you might lose more sales than you gain. But if there is a demo that exists, yeah, exactly on top of that, if there is a demo that exists, it's because it was planned for quite a while.
Starting point is 02:46:46 So I don't expect that this is a reactionary thing. And I guess the last point on that is that the people that got the Street Fighter V beta, that got into playing the game early, were people that bought the game. So you pre-order. You've already paid for it. You could pre-order and can your order,
Starting point is 02:47:03 just like you can do with Guilty Gear, actually. But yeah, exactly. You bought the game as well. So a little different there, too. All right. So what's coming out on the channel? I think this week is the week of one-offs. Yes.
Starting point is 02:47:17 It's the week of Woolly was fucking sick. So we recorded as much as we could without him. Yeah. So Mystery Box will make its triumphant return after... It's been 10 months. So yeah, we got a bunch of questions like, hey, when are you bringing in Mystery Box? Like, oh, it hasn't been that.
Starting point is 02:47:32 It's been 10 fucking months since we did Mystery Box. And the truth is that it never... It's not like it went away consciously. No, exactly. It was just that we didn't have games we wanted to hide. And we ran out of just this massive pile of garbage that we had assumed. Well, me and Matt have been sitting on a bunch.
Starting point is 02:47:48 Oh, you guys don't say. We just didn't do them. We're just having too much fun recording other shit. And the one-offs that we wanted to do were games that we wanted to tell you, hey, there's a one-off of this game. Well, me and Matt, Odalis, and one that we're recording now, were meant to be one-offs.
Starting point is 02:48:03 And there was another one, too, that turned into full LPs. I'm sure we did that, too, one time. Most of the time, but what it was. A Deus Ex is going to continue as normal. A couple other... Oh, it was the fall. The fall turned into a full LPs. Yeah, Deus Ex is going to be normal.
Starting point is 02:48:14 A couple other things might get bumped, but there'll be one-offs in their spots. Yeah. We've got to match them up. I mentioned... It's Zelda and FF10 and Punisher that are bumped. Yeah, they're just moved over because, well, it was sick. And we're going to finish one of those off
Starting point is 02:48:30 before putting up the Dark Souls thing, because it's like we can't have five, six LPs going on at once. Yeah. That's crazy. So Dark Souls? We might as well just, like, when FF10 finishes Dark Souls. When FF10 finishes, so you guys are going to try and blast through the remainder of FF10.
Starting point is 02:48:44 We've got one session. Once you're there. Okay. I came in and I saw them beat Unileska the other day after many losses, so... Unileska's the toughest fight in the whole game. No joke. Hilarious.
Starting point is 02:48:57 You know what? Dude, how about that? Isn't that sick? That lead up to that shit? That call out? Do it. Now's the time. Matt once shot at it.
Starting point is 02:49:06 He didn't die. And that's the hardest boss in the game for sure. Yeah. And so Dark Souls will start probably... There was lots of talking about the fact that they're talking a lot about what moves they're doing. So don't worry. It's intact.
Starting point is 02:49:19 We're going to start recording Dark Souls this week and we'll be getting it up as soon as we can next week. And we're planning to do that non-stop until the end, right? So Dark Souls is intended to be five times a week. I'm thinking of kicking it up to seven if I can convince... No, no. Not when we have three LPs going. It doesn't work, because then we have a three-day rotation.
Starting point is 02:49:42 Once another LP ends, Dark Souls can go to seven. Recording-wise, we'll talk, but schedule-wise. You'll be getting a lot of Dark Souls. You'll be getting a lot of Dark Souls. Because everyone is going to get Dark Souls because that's what Dark Souls, that's what people want. And you're not going to be getting as much as if you're watching Plague's Dirtbag Stream.
Starting point is 02:50:00 It's probably starting right now. That piece of shit. I wouldn't make any claims because streams are different. Streams are hours of content at a time. Yeah, no. Plague is just like, I'm just going to beat the whole game on stream when it comes out tonight. And then he's like, oh, the release moved up.
Starting point is 02:50:17 Can we move the fucking... I hate that guy. Speaking of that thing, what's coming up this weekend? Well, I was also going to say this week, hold on. Okay. We've got Matt's toy box is also returning. Oh, don't spoil that. So look forward to that.
Starting point is 02:50:33 It's a fun topic. I remember when we were talking about that, and Matt said there's a toy box going up, and Liam went, what's that? And I was like, that's when Matt plays with his dolls. Yes. That was exactly what it was. And that's what it is.
Starting point is 02:50:44 That's correct. We've got... Yeah, I guess that's it for this week. The next episode is going to roll out into the other week. But I do want to announce, finally, now that I'm not sick, now that Matt's not gone. Now that everyone's not sick. Now that Liam and Pat are not sick, and Matt's not in...
Starting point is 02:50:59 And we're all temporarily immune to disease for a little while. We are going to stream Heavy Rain for real this time. Finally. On Saturday? Are you looking? Saturday. He's looking at a calendar right now. Yeah, on Saturday.
Starting point is 02:51:20 But it's going to be Saturday, sort of like... Afternoon-ish. Afternoon. Saturday afternoon, because I do, unfortunately, have a hard out that night. But let's get this thing rolling. Right now, we're saying like two to seven, three to seven. Something like that.
Starting point is 02:51:38 Yeah, exactly. Something like that. Two to seven. You'll put up a more finalized start time at some point. Yeah. So we're going to take our first crack at it, or rather, I'm going to take my first crack at it. And that's not...
Starting point is 02:51:49 We're not going to beat it in one night. No, that game's like three sessions if you do that. Yeah. So that's what's going to happen there. We're also going to... We're going to take, do the first part of it, and then like switch back to demons after that, and continue and so on and so forth.
Starting point is 02:52:03 Yeah. As usual, and that sort of way. Also, about the Dark Souls LP, I'd like to announce something. So in trying to weasel out of not being able to play it by myself, I started a Twitter poll that said, Hey, hey everybody, just checking. Does everybody want me to play Dark Souls Blind? Because if you, I mean, if I could, I could just play it.
Starting point is 02:52:24 And the results are overwhelming in that, yeah, I'm going to play it blind. You're going to play it blind. So... People have been saying that Pat has finished the game multiple times. That's crazy! That's nuts! And he has. That's so nuts!
Starting point is 02:52:39 He has done that. Holy shit! That one drives me nuts! It's so bonkers! Pat's new game plus plus. I would be so... It's being cleared off his conscience. I would be so smug right now,
Starting point is 02:52:53 and intolerable had I beaten the game multiple times. You know, I mean, like ever since he figured out that way to make the trophies pop again. All right, yeah. Dude! If you know how to make the trophies pop again, send me a message. You play it on a different account.
Starting point is 02:53:09 That's all, yeah. You play it on a different account. Then people will know. Yeah, people will know. So I'm actually planning on putting on the steam overlay just for achievements so that you can all see that it's the first time I beat that pause. So I'm doing it honestly.
Starting point is 02:53:23 I will grind offscreen though for tight knight and souls and stuff like that. That's fine. That's acceptable. And for weapon drops and stuff like that. No one's gonna... You gotta get blood vials. And I'm probably gonna record that footage just in case
Starting point is 02:53:35 there are scripted events that I can't control. No! Don't go forward! No, no, no, no, no. I mean like return to the hub and like a character attacks me or something. No, then you quit. You turn off the game.
Starting point is 02:53:48 You know Dark Souls, there's no... You can't undo that. You can't. If you turn it off quick enough, you'll be fine. It's a PC, man. You don't kick PCs off. Cloud save it. I mean Alt F4 though.
Starting point is 02:54:00 Alt F4? Yeah, maybe. And you know... Whoops, I corrected the save. I had to do that for Metal Gear Solid 5, remember? The minute anything happens. But that stuff's a lot safer on consoles, I feel. Like the turn off?
Starting point is 02:54:12 Like I feel like there's protections. Well, I wouldn't turn it off. I just p.s. button quit. Yeah, I wouldn't, yeah. And you know, maybe this time, you know, at some point if you kind of feel in the urge here, Johnson, send your... Don't do a solo session.
Starting point is 02:54:31 Don't start this, you motherfucker. You told me to do that solo session. You told me and people liked it. They did. So, go fuck yourself on that one. I just told me to do it. Well, there's nothing... You told me to do it, Willie.
Starting point is 02:54:50 I asked you guys, mind if I do this and record it for the LP and you went, yeah, do whatever. And then I did it and you walk in and go, I can't believe you recorded without us. I was just gonna say, I was gonna say people did, people did like it. But yeah, I want us... I think the silent majority hated it.
Starting point is 02:55:10 I want to see... Oh, yeah. That's why the dislikes on it are so low. That's why they're... I actually took them away, so it hurts your feelings. So it'll be Matt, Willie and I, but there may be occasionally times that Matt can't make it and Willie and I are just like, we're gonna play that game.
Starting point is 02:55:25 Oh, is that... We talked about that way, way back. That's cleared. Yeah, I'll go. You guys might... No, I do remember that. You both might have forgotten about it again. Like you did with the fucking solo session,
Starting point is 02:55:38 but the very first time we talked about it, I said, hey Matt, would you like to come in on the third guy, the Dark Souls thing? He said, well, I'm not into Dark Souls as much as Bloodborne, but that was a lot of fun. And I said, well, we want to record multiple times a week. So if there are any times that you're not feeling it,
Starting point is 02:55:53 or you don't want to, whatever, we can do it without you, and then I'll catch you up for the next time. Yeah, I remember, because you were talking about another LP that day, yeah. You remember that? Yep, absolutely. But that might not happen.
Starting point is 02:56:02 He might want to be there every day. You should run it by him again. Yeah, because he probably forgot. Well, either way, it's from soft session season. All right, so I just beat the final boss in Dark Souls 3 just now, right? Right here, live on the podcast while we were talking. It was a good time.
Starting point is 02:56:19 I'm going to make a guess. No, I'm not going to make a guess. It was Patches. I bet if that be dope, man, that'd be great. If Patches was the optional boss. Sure. That'd be great. Absolutely.
Starting point is 02:56:31 You get to fight him. Yeah. Mouldie, I can't believe you spoiled it, just like you spoiled what for? Oh, man. Fucking stupid joke guesses. This is turning into the Minecraft LP. I hope not.
Starting point is 02:56:41 Matt Lefton, it's turning into the Minecraft LP. Which we are eventually going to complete, eventually. Don't tell them when. Eventually. Eventually could mean any time. All right, and I have a lot of whatever. I mean, besides that, you're going to watch, do stuff. Yeah, I'm going to crack open that lucha underground as well myself.
Starting point is 02:57:02 I'm going to keep trucking on that JoJo, doing my thing. I want to play Dark Souls 3. You fucking bitch. Also, actually, I have never played one at launch. I never have been really excited for one. But Ratchet and Clank's coming out this week, and the reviews are really good. And it's like a reboot.
Starting point is 02:57:16 So I'm like, all right, keen to play that. I'm going to dig in on Pillars of Eternity and Gundam Zeta, hopefully. Yep. And Matt, you said your stuff earlier. He did? Yep. All right. Let's bounce.
Starting point is 02:57:31 Cue the music now. It's cueing.

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