Castle Super Beast - SBFC 147: The Unluckiest Game in the History of Games
Episode Date: May 31, 2016We're back from Momocon, and we got lots to cover! Also, Platinum TMNT is out, cringey commercials are in, and someone loses control of their life to Overwatch crates....
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Any of you guys familiar with billiards pool or snooker?
I am somewhat familiar and that every time I wanted to play pool with my dad
he'd be like okay let's play pool and then he would kick my fucking shit and
take your money come out of it losing money every time you wouldn't believe
and then I'd be like you're lucky I didn't play you for money and like oh I
don't because next week you better bone up on your billiards because it's going
to be your dad's like easy money right like like were you were you sucking on
your little like sus as your dad's like break out Lucille Jeffrey no and he's
got all mangled fingers and shit now to industrial accidents and he still kicks
my ass I think we all have a little familiarity with snooker why do you
bring it up well that would be because if you've ever had the pleasure of
witnessing a perfect game of snooker that's called a maximum break a break
every ball is sunk into the correct on the on the pitch and then the sea
subsequent balls are all in in perfect sequence right this maximum break gives
you 147 points and is that's crazy as a 1 4 see now you're coming up with good
facts that's a really good one this that's what I want to hear on shit also
that's a good one if you pretend to say it in Japanese like a cabin writer it
sounds maximum break yeah that's great that's that's probably one of the most
interesting thing about pool I've ever heard or snooker for that man yeah I
think the most interesting thing about pools how drunk those British guys get
during their trick shot competitions yeah and there's always always who die in
the world tour yeah I always get disappointed whenever I see this one
ps2 game when we go to like you know whatever mom and pop places or cons
and it's just Detroit Street hustler and I was like oh my god this is going to be
it's really just it's just pull like hustle Kings on PSN that's another one
it's not I never realized until we used to have a place called the the center
deloiser which is the leisure center back near where I used to live and it was
a community center go there play games that's where I first witnessed the birth
of my Tetris attack love by getting beasted on and it's where I saw like the
cool kids learning the gamble we're doing all their hustle exactly right and
once you became an amateur pool hustler you'd step up to the snooker table where
like these 16 year olds were and I wouldn't stand a fucking chance and like
all meet like me and my friends who'd think like yeah we're good enough to pull
we can step up you didn't realize that the main difference is not the size of
the table or the ball or even the cues how you use your stick it's that the
corner of the pockets are not tethered are tapered off they're not as a light
allow the ball in yeah they're sharp corners yeah which means you'll bounce
right the fuck off shy of a perfect shot yeah what do you have like like three
millimeters of clearance or some stupid shit not more than that but it's tight
yeah not it is stupid that game is hard used to bullseye swamp rats back home
this can be so hard yeah you should try spinning the ball that's a good trick
there you go yeah oh what are you guys up to okay how many people the entire
week is just overwatch I wish it was I had a video I had a video I had a video
failed to upload without noticing because I was playing overwatch
the latest Zelda just didn't go up on the website because I was playing overwatch
I fixed it this morning that is that is the most honest of all of our fuck ups
we have ever made just like I thought because I thought it finished I was and
then it didn't I was and overwatch probably killed your upload to yeah isn't
it just a pure video game experience it is fun yeah it is it is the simplest like
pure like I was I was explaining to my girlfriend like well what's the big deal
it's like well it's a six-on-six multiplayer shooter with like five maps I
don't know a bunch of characters she goes like TF2 I'm like yeah but with wife
but in this one you get to buy 310 boxes yes that's accurate it will in that
conversation that I that I had with the girlfriend like we I then followed it up
with okay no wait but look at the hero gallery and then it was like oh yeah the
exact same thing happened the exact I'm so glad in the Conan Clueless Gamer where
he had Peter Dinklage and Lena Headley from from Game of Thrones that they
looked at the hero gallery first yeah just cuz it's a good yeah I'm here to
show exactly get hype over characters you didn't know existed hands those shows
up and she's like it's Jason Momoa and it's like yeah a little bit a little bit
and really get that at first okay okay game is so good so so so god damn good
how how good how much of your life lost good how well what's the what's the box
count the box 110 billion dollars spent we could we could look at my still
didn't go at my house so we could look at my fucking emails on the on the TV and
just see like the long like the entire entire page of blizzard updates where
it's like hey well thanks for purchasing your watch boxes what I'm the most
interested in finding out right now is does the first email say thanks for
purchasing one box and then does it say thanks for purchasing 10 no this is a
50 here's the way the final evil says thanks Moby dick so so most of this
damage occurred while I was talking to cranky on discord along with my my
raid buddies and the like the whole night we're playing overwatch I'm like man I
really want to buy 50 boxes I really just want to say fuck it and just buy 50
boxes and everyone's like Pat don't buy 50 boxes cranky's like listen Pat Pat Pat
yes cranky don't buy 50 boxes buy 24 boxes and then you'll be done forever and
I go okay thanks and then I bought 24 boxes and I was like man that was a
lot of fun I want to buy 50 and then another guy in my raid group goes I
just bought 50 boxes and then I bought 50 boxes and that was a lot of fun but
that's not the problem that's not the part where you did it five more the problem
isn't that that's like that's fine whatever I had a lot of fun doing it the
problem was when I went to bed and the very first thing I thought of the next
morning was boxes I want to open 50 wow and at 9 21 a.m. I came over to this
couch sat down and opened 200 more boxes so what's your playtime in the
unboxing versus the shooter unboxing total must be like an hour tops do you
have like because you start clicking it faster do you have them all or not I
have everything that I want okay okay so I bought 50 boxes that's there I
straight up I'm like yep let's go and I'll tell you what the seal breaking was
the problem for me so here's the funny thing is because here's the things are
you doing it with you're using your mouse and keyboard so you just yes I am
playing if you play with the controller doesn't have a fucking rumble it rumbles
as it opens up goes so the extra layer sprinkle the extra sprinkles right there
for you so did you get what did you do anything particular I got I opened it up
and like three in I got my fucking chocking girl Guren like and the red
one the black one the right black good the red the right the green like and
Reinhardt and I was like I'm that's all I wanted yeah I'm done so you didn't open
any of the others no I opened them but I was like who cares here's here's the
main thing was I I built up a lot of points over the demo and I got enough to
get my green thing and I had extras but I was like I want to go again yeah and I
and then I just I was like I'll buy a 50 and I'll get the money to buy it and then
I just got it in the role so I was like well I have nothing else here that I
care about so so for me it's like I originally didn't care about almost
anything for any of the characters other than like the two or three that I play
and then like as you play more games I'm like oh actually I really like to play
as Lucio oh I really like to play as Farrah is it is not Lucio I think it's
Lucio I don't know anyway anyway no one knows I will really like to play as you
really okay I really like to play as Joker at I really like to play as right
you know etc etc and then you hit a point where you're like I'm happy with
anything that I fucking get okay and then there's the danger okay and so when
you open that many boxes you you get to stare at that animation enough times and
you get to see all the bullshit little visual like tricks they're using to fuck
with you so gold is the epic one gold is always the expensive skins right for
about 10 frames before the box explodes you see all the discs are gold inside the
box before they fly out right right and when they do fly up you see the color
trail you see the color trails but then they land in inaccurate positions a hundred
percent you often think oh my god I get two gold and then oh you lands you get
your result but the simple act of that tease every time every time sprinkle yeah
and the dark path is when you you're you you opened up 150 boxes and now you
don't even want skins to drop because you already have so many skins now you
just want like duplicate icons and poses to drop more money so that you can just
buy the May skin so you like oh yeah I mean for me it's a lot simpler because I
only really care about Reinhart and Zarya yeah I you will care about more
characters over time and the nature of it is and the problem that started is the
natural opening of like 24 boxes over the course of the thing you get I got
like a like the the black and the blue sorry the red and white skin for Pharah
right the really good one and I go well I never play Pharah but I guess I should
try her out try your skin out yeah okay and then I'm like oh I really like Pharah
and then I got like the Dick Tracy skin for McCree I'm like oh and it's it's oh
it's a dark path whatever I'm sitting on lots of currency now for whenever they
add more skins I kind of I feel that even more I think of I forget the last time
we talked about it might have been KI when we were talking about the KI skins
but it's just like if your thing is you've got the whole game there and
you're just selling cosmetics because that's what you're gonna do and we like
those cosmetics yeah I will do it yeah I'm in I have no problem a cosmetic
prostitute no problem with that and I am really happy with my Reinhart looking
like I feel good I am really happy with all of I would do it again I don't feel
bad I don't care I'll fight anyone yeah the game is pretty good I guess to the
game when you're not opening boxes is pretty good when you're not opening
boxes so who you playing as right now I can I can like Liam's eyes are just like
well like I've got nothing to say like I opened up Lucio's hockey outfit and I
was like this is good I like this one's like one of the best the entire day you
enjoy do you enjoy support or do you like going yeah cementure is my favorite
the teleporters are so useful yeah and I love I love finding all the little
narrow like crannies to jam the teleport are the turrets in I can't believe how
much damage they do if you get hit by all seven really good dude if you get hit by
all seven you're fucking dead you're fucking dead in an instant yeah I like
playing as her a lot Mercy's Mercy's way too fun her flight ability is amazing as
long as you've got a team who's kind of like aware of that you can get away from
anything yeah somebody always has to be above you have been we're just like in
a little far enough yeah she pairs really well like junk rat I find have you guys
tried the ridiculous arcade mode at all yeah it's a fucking mess it's like I
looked at the rules and I said no you know I have no dude it's so goofball it's
Marvel and I'm like this is stupid some characters get super nerfed by the
increased damage like Genji becomes worthless well and likewise certain
characters sword takes like five hits to kill people so I'm walking with
right heart and I'm like I have 4,000 points worth of shield damage what come
the fuck at me bro there aren't even bosses in this game and you found the
boss that's there they just didn't know that they're bosses yeah the bashing
salt is so real it is it's so real the counters are real too no but I mean like
every game every gift every oh yeah and I know they're hilarious it's like it's
hilarious it's kind of weird cuz like there's no hero that I have like
particular trouble with because you just pick a counter but video of the
bastion sitting on the moving platform that's going really fast and he just
does that the whole game and just straight up oh you meet your critical
video unbelievable that was great I fucking love you really want to piss
people off put Torbjorn sturt bastion and Reinhardt on the payload on the same
okay yeah yeah so no you know it's put some metrics turrets on the back but
symmetric teleporter under them on the payload oh my god so strong you just
have Reinhardt defend the teleporter that's all you do yeah like so it's so
part of the part of the adventure this week I mean we're gonna get into stuff
in detail but we were walking through momocon matinee and like just on this
the topic for that matter and like I got those glowy green shades that I
picked up at the dealer's room that someone made for woolly they're like
one point a black man with dreads will want these and I'll wait until he shows
up oh there he is he's right there it's right it's like the last blade to
swords maker it's like he died putting his soul into these shades yeah and Matt
had of course the skull beanie that turns into the mask and like a punisher
shirt so we're just walking down across the skybridge and like a girl stops
and goes hey and we're like oh hey yeah like let's say hi to the fan he's like
are you guys overwatch and we look at each other like yes we are so lazy
overwatch cosplay welcome to the ghetto overwatch by accident yeah now you can
say it's by accident but if someone in it like actually means it it could be
very strong super turn into that and that's how we opened up yeah that's
good good gag still stuff on the overwatch train if I'm not sure if you
guys saw but like I wrote a tweet because I was just walking down the
hallways and Matt Mercer comes running down the hallway holding a holding his
like carry on like he's going to make his flight and I hope he I hope he made
it because it was probably at high noon this this this okay Matt Mercer is the
voice of McCree sorry yeah no I got that okay well he thought it was funny
Matt Mercer oh what a Takahata thing Takahata was very angry at this pun he
was like fuck you fuck you shut up shut up shut up shut up and and I don't think
that's a pun that well whatever joke dad joke dad yeah that's a dad joke and then
below Matt Mercer was like haha good one and I was like yeah whatever I'm
patronizing because I'm not even gonna like your tweet yeah no he liked it oh
good he didn't really like it though in his heart no he's a nice guy follow and
unfollow yeah yeah that was my my overwatch experience because I didn't
bother to boot up the game because I was too busy torturing myself with TMNT by
platinum have you did you play multiplayer at all no it did not if
you're gonna go back to that game which I played it I doubt I played it all the
way that game gets significantly better even just playing with randoms it is it
is seriously a lot better just playing with random okay so just don't even do
that switchoff single player maybe play the first and second mission to get the
gist of why the single player is not worth your time it's a lot better with
randoms it's still probably their worst game so but it is night and day I'll
agree that it's by far I think platinum is weakest game I've I've ever
experienced I never played you know infinite space and they barely really
made it when I did search for online people on other ps4 version I found no
one that's odd okay well I yeah this is in the middle of the afternoon and on
launch but when you launch your game on overwatch day maybe not a lot of my
people might be playing perhaps yeah my free company is empty right now as it
is just like just hanging a sign on the door it's like overwatch time but I don't
know it's at the overwatch spray I did the first like two major missions like
the bebop one I did the second one and then I was I putzed around in the in the
empty overworld for a little bit more and I was like okay I know I'm gonna do
something else so I did and it really sucks because if you guys remember I was
bitching and moaning about how bad I wanted this game I wanted the trailers
I want to see it now now now and now it's just like this heaping well you got
to have the exact same like pre-release reaction to two games one was doom one
was this yeah and then you got the completely ass and X ends of the
spectrum on both one in one the single players fantastic multiplayer is all
right sure yes if you I it's not for me but I'm sure it's good and then there's
doom complete well there's the complete opposite on the Ninja Turtles well I
like I like the way you put it when you're like it's like you're looking at
this game and then for a second you're like how should I judge this should it
be judged as a platinum game or as a Ninja Turtles game because it's like a
bar movie game it's like a button masher beat them up and it's a little bit of
platinum but it's neither really like I find the problem with Ninja Turtles
games every time is their hamstrung because they got to be four player co-op
or else it's got to have some but I'd rather it be single player and be a
better game and just it's all that's always what hamstrings the new Ninja
Turtles games is they got to be multiplayer one that's different is TMNT
on the GBA remember we played that yeah only single player yeah and it's an
incredible Ninja Turtle game but people are like but what's weird about that
game is that there's all this extra space in the bottom part of the screen
where a second turtle I think there's system link I don't remember but like
that game was was like one of the best TMNT games yeah I mean if you look at
how Transformers just like you they're a team but you switched off as you got to
their chapters that could work for Turtles too no I would have really
preferred had they just gone the single player route but it's hard to say
whether they were you know so impassioned about doing it multiplayer or
whether that was maybe something they had to do or maybe they wanted to try
something a little bit different from the usual yeah but I also think like
outside of the comfort zone I also think like fans would abjectly refuse a
Turtles game that wasn't multiplayer you know and I think that's a bummer
I think maybe that's just me but like all I'm seeing no you're completely right
I totally agree I think talked about this a little bit before but out of the
shadows the old XBLA PSN game yeah not the new movie not the new movie was it
had a big single-player mode that you can play in single-player and then you
could have an on one online buddy join you or you have that additional arcade
mode that we played where it puts all four Turtles that's a lot of work I
admittedly yeah you're making two different games basically making two
different games but like Platinum works fast like on yeah maybe the mantra was
not to waste time with that stuff on paper the idea of like controlling a
turtle like Dante and d-pad switching styles to switch Turtles and combo
crazy go combo crazy sounds like a wacky fun idea but if you don't have enough
time you know and I don't know if every damage is every damage I don't know if
every boss is a damage sponge yeah they all are even Karai who's just a strong
girl like she's not a giant rhino or anything she's a very strong woman but
that's all human because that would be awesome if it was just Karai then why
not for that boss which more to a Platinum kind of character action style
and not the blood why not mix it up yeah actually be better I'd rather have
bullet sponges damage sponges then Platinum boss then yeah the fact that
there's no missions where you can play as solo as a turtle like they kind of
have to keep the enemy health high because when you have four good players
online bosses just wouldn't stand a chance if they had regular health they
would like vanish in a fucking instant yeah I mean I think that's the balance
I said I don't think it's good I don't like how they're damaged sponges but
with four players it's hard sorry my cut but I don't see how they could have
balanced it otherwise for four players without the enemies just vanishing
instantly if they had you know regular character action attributes you know
that's why putting all your turtles in a one basket into one mode and it
completely relies on this balance the entire way through is like that's why
like ultimately maybe making two sort of modes or two things like might have been
the better choice because if this one thing falls apart like the rest of it
kind of falls apart if you're playing in single player you're playing with
players yeah very good certainly if they would have like I mean if they would
have went and made like single player missions as well where you get to pick
whichever turtle you want that would have been those missions would probably
be just fine actually but like they'd also like really contrast with the
multiplayer objectives that usually require you to have multiple turtles you
know three turtles have to protect the other guy doing something else or like
that's most of the mission like Donna just doing his hands for 30 seconds doing
something to the bombs yeah so the quick chat that you and I had Liam about
this game before like we kind of were talking about the idea of platinum
continuing to make these like these license license properties exactly and
Cora and Transformers were better than this game is apparently good you know
they're certainly not like on the level of the platinum originals but I think
Transformers gets there like up there with anarchy like with that okay yeah
that sounds fair but what I'm but what we basically looked at we said what was
different here it was that Ninja Turtles was coinciding with a movie
release date yeah and it was time to come out with June 8th right I think that
and the multi-cora was done at the time that that game came out and optimum the
and the prime wars was happening as a Transformers that was like but that's a
year-long Transformers is like constantly beginning and ending yeah so both of
those games were licensed properties that had no specific cutoff points to hit
unlike unlike Ninja Turtles and that's definitely seems like it had to hit the
movie date otherwise so crazy coincidence I still find it so confusing that the
other Turtles game was yeah out of the shadows to be released for the first
movie yeah the second movie is called out of the shadows let's just snatch that
name as a good one you want to call it out of the shadows too because out of
the shadows didn't get it yeah we had in that same conversation we had a little
who's on first moment you know of like out of the shadows yeah no out of the
shadows anyway I remember that yeah but yeah that's it so it's like if they're
if they're gonna continue to work with Activision hopefully they're not getting
stuck with things that have to come out on this movie's cutoff date I definitely
think like yeah the date combined with the whoever it was who really wanted to
do the multiplayer I think that was the problem because I really think you could
strip this game of its multiplayer and and sort of redesign the levels a little
bit wasn't Platinum's idea you'd be fine to charge $60 for a game that you can
beat in two hours I mean yeah sure like that I'm just saying that you know
actually it's funny because we we saw those people saying two hours but I
can test that you can't beat this game in two hours if you're playing on normal
you didn't say what difficult no I played through on normal and you're not
beating this game in two hours like what would you ballpark it at completion
on average like four plus like the same ballpark is Cora and transfer shorter
than Transformers that one was a bit longer but same ballpark is Cora not
that it makes a huge difference between two and four but yeah like
proportionally it sure does right proportionally yeah Cora was Cora was 20
bucks Transformers was 50 or 40 on last gen and Turtles was 60 or 50 on last
gen and now the next movie game will be even worse and will cost a hundred yeah
gotta be a licensed people care about fast enough furious that I would play
fast and furious GI Joe versus Rambo now that's no I Joe Transformers honestly
I would want them to do Transformers again yeah yeah yeah why isn't Prime Wars
like ongoing or something it's like phase two and yes a year long of it no
beast machines all Beast Wars would be great that would be a really real
quickly aside from Turtles I watched the first episode of Preacher on from AMC I
bought the season pass to watch it I'm a big fan so is so is Willie of Preacher
the comic book series it's one of the greats that article the article's
sorry to cut you know I was just like article you sent me said this is gonna
be your favorite new show here's why is that the case it's it's one of the most
interesting things because I know that I know that at least the the first couple
arcs of comic very well and this completely throws a lot of things out
the window not drastically like not big points but this character will be
introduced in this completely different way this character has this added back
story but the characters themselves remain true to whatever and and the
acting on this thing is phenomenal but this first episode is weird it has a
weird pace it has weird editing and has this weird sense of humor because it's
made by by Seth Rogen and his partner Evan Goldberg that that made like super
bad and everything right preacher itself is weird it's weird but this is like
weird or I'm like I is this what am I supposed to laugh because there are some
parts that laugh in the first three seconds there's something so horrifying
but so sudden that I laugh went oh okay so as it goes on I started okay way I'm
kind of getting into it I kind of see this is getting interesting and it does
things in a really really neat way so if you know the comic it's like I think
people would like this but there's enough different that you can be like
surprised at stuff okay so I'm really interested to watch the rest of it and
like the acting like I said was really good the guy that plays Jesse is the
dude that plays Howard Stark the old Howard Stark from from like the early
Captain America movies and all that do you think that the fact that people just
experienced the purple man is gonna take away from the series a little bit you
asked me this a little while ago and my answer is kind of the same where I'm like
I think Jesse's the the word of God is way more powerful and cooler than the
purple man and wait what what does it do it it lets it makes a person absolutely
do whatever but it has no range it is it is well it will happen it doesn't wear
off yeah it's not really a spoiler but the basic premise of preacher that you
going in is that the power of the guy has is the ability to say a thing and make
it so that's why he's called preacher not not it's not he was a preacher
beforehand well it makes I mean it makes sense yes of course I actually didn't
know that until recently and when I heard that I was like oh that's the hero
it all makes sense yeah yeah it's a really good what is he supposed to
fucking fight it's a really good comic so I really enjoyed that what yeah what
possible problem I don't know Pat maybe you should have read the preacher comics
I gave you three years ago I gave those back to you right yeah you did okay the
forces of heaven and hell and everything in between okay yeah I also got four
episodes down of lucha underground I won't go on and on but there's something
being kept in the basement in a cage no one knows what it is I bet it's a
wrestler it's we it's unclear I don't think so it might be an eldritch thing
or am I not I bet that eldritch thing will take the form of a wrestler in that
thing in a cage is not the same as the man called cage no the man called cage
is completely a bloke named cage a different guy so the man called cage
I'm this is still season one season one's quite old now but just let you guys
know the man called cage says I have a new move it's called the weapon X and he
didn't get to show it off and he's like next week the weapon X exclusively
just hyping up DLC for this show it's so good it's so good and there is a promo
for a guy that's returning I'm not gonna say because we want to know but they
show the promo and I just marked out at his promo and his promo is against the
the promoter Dario okay but the promo has camera shots and special effects who
paid for the promo Dario did his own his own much slinging ad it's amazing and
like the last kind of thing it is I put some time into a gargoss I think he's
really really awesome because I never really liked Aria as a boss because she
was weird and unbalanced and I very difficult to use and dark and gargoss is
just do you remember what he's classified as a boss character he has
classified as a long range poking character zoning zoning with close
range grapples and has air superiority yeah that's great I really love his
like dimension punches or whatever they are portal punch yeah they're really
cool and like his last yeah this last aura or aura where it gets everyone
bounces in between all the different punches and then gets slammed on the
ground and then you can do his grapple and then do a million things from it like
he's so versatile and when I was watching the stream where Keats kind of
unveiled them I was like okay that's pretty cool and I was kind of turning
away and they're like also you can summon guys yeah attack quickly have
different AI behaviors the game and put minions in it okay I'm hacking the game
yeah I just slams I put the minions in here we go and the minions are so fun
just cuz they're so basic and it's kind of a goofy thing there are really nice
to I love their design yeah they're really they're like they're like cute
they're kind of cute in there yeah they remind me of like Disney demons but
when you use that full strength like they're a problem they're vicious yeah
yeah yeah so I had really fun and you know going a little bit whoa okay
technical difficulties on this podcast fucking power just went out my apartment
we're back though it's fine I called my landlady and she's like oh I don't know
about that and she's like oh no he's he's on to it he's on to it turn the power
shut off the auto bloke yeah shut off our auto bloke it's fine can't keep
siphoning his power yeah no it takes a lot it takes the entire grid to power
everyone's auto boy he met as you were saying as I was saying going a bit on
the overwatch talk yeah just settle down and just buy a couple of Gargoyle
accessories like and ones I probably could have grinded for but I saw you
got your beautiful Hisako finally oh yeah I did I finally got my love congrats
that's like the first max level of anything I've ever done so I bought a
couple of Gargoyle accessories just to get me started and it that's one of
those purchases where I'm like okay no I'm get this one that's it I can't go
nuts I can't go further but yeah it's an investment that your girlfriend's phone
was under the ass pillow you provided she couldn't find it this morning so I'm
glad you found it in your ass you put it there it was under the ass pillow it's
okay I didn't plant any bombs on it you should be fine little baby bombs I could
have though it was in a danger zone it could have got real all right there you
go the Gargoyle that's what you get for doing a mistake yeah the Gargoyle
final color 10 is the sickest shit I haven't seen it yeah it's black and green
it's but it's actually the best but it's cool do you know what looks like
Liam it looks like that final costume in No More Heroes 2 the black and green
like cyberpunk yeah I remember that one the boss of War Gods does it look like a
razor product it does I really don't like razor it does look like a razor
product motherfucker you almost ruined it for hardcore gamers like us so yeah
there you go um goddamn okay okay well I'm gonna I'm gonna take it you should
turn I'm gonna I'm gonna talk about Ninja Turtles again I'm gonna bring it
right back because I did play it for I don't know somewhere between like five
and six hours I played a bit past the end of the game just to replay like one
of the early missions that's actually like the most enjoyable mission the
first one because the city's just fun to traverse unlike like the tower
going up and down the building not the buildings the city from street level to
rooftop was cool yeah it's enjoyable that the level with Karai is like not
nearly as fun where you have to like fly between buildings and stuff it's kind
of slow and just plotting as opposed to grinding on rails and wall running and
stuff that game so like transformers still even though it was a licensed one
it still had like relatively like deep move set right yeah go into it and you
could do a lot turtles is way shallower in terms of the move set and all the
turtles are relatively the same like in terms of their in terms of their actual
combos the tax they're all pretty much the same except for a few of their
ability so you're not gonna believe this one guys I won't you'll never believe
what I hate that stupid restaurant fuck super best friends hates it what what
patches wants to give out what happened why is there a sudden jump in okay
remember when I kind of screamed a little bit because our pet my power went
out of my house like do it again about three minutes and 20 seconds into that
recording when Liam was talking about turtles again power went out again so
that's why the jump is about and that's when we're like well we obviously cannot
record at my house because the goddamn power keeps going out of random so
we're five hours and 15 kilometers over yeah and now we're in Willie's place and
we're gonna continue the podcast from here for it's like nothing probably 600
it's it's totally seamless totally seamless don't do not pay attention to
the podcast behind the curtain totally party if you were here two minutes ago
you'll recall that Liam was talking about the Ninja Turtles and how its
combat is much shallower than say everything else so transformers and
even in Korra like once you got all your all four of your groups of powers you
had quite a depth to what you could do in Ninja Turtles there's there's very
little in that in terms of that depth but it's replaced with a huge breadth of
stuff at any time you can fire like infinite projectiles you can use all
the turtles special move yeah you have all their special moves no like funny
inputs required you have like four solid defensive options at all times and
your regular combos etc but they're always available to you there's nothing
particularly complex about it and I think that it definitely suits a more
pickup and play play style and I think for like a multiplayer game it kind of
makes sense to go for a more plain control style but it yeah I heard a huge
butt coming when you were saying that but yeah it still doesn't address the
problems it's a good it's a good design but it doesn't fix the the the glaring
problems which is honestly mainly the bosses as far as I'm concerned it's a
weird thing Korra and and transformers or franchises that also should not
require a lot of input and like heavy input execution like whatever but they
had it and like turtles like yay excuse younger and like but still I found like
the parry like the go into your shell yeah parry thing to be harder than
revenge yes to reliably use the parry is not super reliable in this game
basically when you hold one of the shoulder buttons you spin in your shell
for a brief amount of time and you can hold it until the gauge runs out I one
of the only platinum games where you can actually just block outright and if you
get hit in that state you just like clash away and nothing happens to you but
when you release it if something hits you when you're pulling out of your shell
you'll parry and that timing is sounding you can't trust a parry well who
can you trust we'll see what you what you can trust about it as as long as you
don't release way too early you'll just block the hit it is generous but it's
just awkward but what you should try to do or rely on is it has a another
mechanic with a similar input window as which time where if you if you press the
guard slash dodge button right before an enemy swings three things in one
button yeah it's sick it's actually like really cool but dodge or if you're
holding it block if you're and if you release it you get a parry okay so when
almost too much complication when compared to just the combos it is it is
quite complex but they're all kind of good for their own thing when you do the
dodge thing what happens is you swing 180 degrees behind the enemy like in no
more heroes when Travis slides around them and it's that same kind of thing
and you can either just go into a combo now that the enemy is facing the other
way or right when you do it if you press circle you'll hop on top of their head
and start beating at their head and and they'll just like be struggling to get
you off so all your buddies can attack no and they get a buff to their attack
when you're doing with tight gameplay one defense button could be a cool thing
yeah I could see that being interesting yeah and in the context of this game
those things make sense because like you want the block because the hits are like
like especially the bosses swing really wide and they tend to hit everyone at
once so having a block there is actually really good the guard slash or the
guard the dodge slash like climb on on top really works out because it lets you
buff every other player and their attacks and it also keeps them safe because
they can't attack while you're on top of them and the parry is just a parry if you
think you're good are you good enough you probably aren't it's hard to time it
it's really hard to time it I always think this is one of those things where
they're trying to satisfy basic Ninja Turtle fans that just want to pick up and
play thing also trying to satisfy a bit of Platinum fans usually when you do
that you don't quite satisfy either I think I think you can validate it though
like pressing the button to get a dodge is fair enough right and then holding the
button to get a guard it's fair enough right so why not add an extra command
when you release it doesn't take up your time I just mean in general the general
gameplay when you land it on every character in boss do they all stagger
yeah absolutely every every hit except project I don't know what it does to
projectiles but every hit a little stagger them if you manage to that's not
like the the parry being a release is so weird in my head like is it as awkward as
it sounds it's it is awkward but again the fortunate thing is that if you do it
wrong you just guard that's it like well once you explain it like they have all
three functions on the button then I'm thinking about it like startup frames
active frames recovery yeah it's like three functions with three it's worth
bearing in mind that the the getting out of guard doesn't interrupt you in any
way and you could just immediately cancel it into attacks okay like it's not a
it's not like in Revengeance where Raiden will just go like you won't miss
anything you know so it's it's kind of actually like pretty innocuous but it
does especially in the tutorial where it's like now do the parry you're like
this feels really weird to do with no like experience of how the game works but
and the mission structure is pretty fun but the bosses and all the sewer levels
are just yeah I didn't get to the sewer level but I saw a lot of people say like
it's terrible yeah the the little chunk of Manhattan's really enjoyable just
little buildings with grinding rails all over the place fun kind of felt like a
Tony Hawk yeah a little bit with the speed you're moving at yeah
Karah's skyscrapers at least has its own thing going on even though it's not the
most enjoyable but the sewers are nothing there's there's water that goes
through and if it's going fast enough it pulls you along but that's not
particularly enjoyable and you end up fighting a lot of enemies being pushed
against invisible walls alongside them oh that sounds great and like the bet the
worst bit about it is the camera holds up fine and it doesn't impede your
control so it's actually not an issue but it just feels stupid I didn't do a
problem where my when I was in single player I know this is like a different
set of problems is that my AI turtles would sometimes run so far ahead and
kill foot soldiers before I got there yeah and sometimes not like the fact
that you don't have control over them why couldn't be be where like you command
them you can you can command them to specific things like you can get them
to stay near you or go all out that's it yeah and there's another one that makes
them go all out but not use their skills so they'll save them so you can save
them for a boss fight or something like that but that's in the command that it's
in an overly complicated command menu that's like mostly for multiplayer so
you can tell people non-verbally where to go what to do remember when the IGN
footage came out and I think at that time I was only one had seen it I was like
the AI is so messy and so busy with so many things rate like two different
radial wheels coming up and again this is the UI yeah it is because if it's
for a kid-friendly pick-up-and-play sort of thing that's like the exact opposite
of what you'd want you want something a little like even even me that like you
know like played Revengeance multiple times I was just like this is this this
makes it look more complicated than it is not did the UI is shit it's really
Platinum's never been bad at UI I always find the UI design quite elegant they're
basic with it they don't really try to do too much most of the time they keep it
functional hey does it work great yeah done this UI is way messy like Matt's
totally right on that I completely agree so one thing we were concerned about
early on too was the a number of environment sets like how many were
there I think like I think like five or six okay which there's nine missions so
it's not so bad sewer is the one that you see the most unfortunately and it's
kind of shitty you're telling me that the worst level is the one you see the
most often which is three times great so awesome it's not a lot but you do see it
the most like the audience to be fair that's probably why it's so shitty is
what you see the most to be to be fair when I think of Transformers all I'm
thinking of is the city yeah Cybertronian looking architecture and the space
portal and like that's it city yeah it's a it's a similar level of like stages
like for Transformers it makes well it's weird because like in Korra there's a
progression of you know there's a handful of different areas similar looking
environments but they're different yeah and they're actually different going the
ice place in the town and the one the spirit world are all completely
different from each other but like for example when you think of an old TMNT
beat them up you constantly move from like city street to sewers to like on the
sea yeah go in a building or like tourism time where you go into like
different time periods this game is kind of the same thing but it I don't know
because you're in New York it is called Mewinson Manhattan yeah when I look at
the lineup of levels and like one of the older Konami ones like it's a pretty
similar kind of thing like in the Konami ones you do a lot of buildings and
they're all just kind of buildings but I don't know there's something about this
like I don't know they just come off as blanded might just have to do with the
game not feeling amazing on the whole and it feels good moment to moment but
then the bosses and some of the side missions just put a brick wall in your
way and the other thing in general is that like I told I said earlier that the
character models and everything has this nice like really good look to him and
has this good amount of platinum style but it comes the environments like
everything doesn't look amazing but it still runs the arts solid yeah no bit
you know I mean like every like revenge it looks better yeah right but like the
fact that it still runs at 30 even on PC is like I all I meant that like yeah it
has to you know support the co-op and stuff like that but if you're playing in
single-player I don't get it why for that at least mode I don't know I don't
like it might be that it was just like some weird unlocked mid-40s that they
had it as they said but on PC there's no excuse no exactly I have to force that
on PC like they should have done it but even like if I'm not mistaken the
Revengeance port still has like notable flaws it does but like those notable
flaws are livable it's no dark souls one yeah right it's like I was reading a
guy recently who said he was like falling through world and the Ray stuff
going right in that is rare I have not seen any of that and I like looked up
like yeah I played a good bit of it on at when I worked at Eidos I played on the
PC there the great general gist is like there's a there's a few weird resolution
things and it doesn't go at up to like 144 hertz how was Transformers on PC I'm
not yeah I didn't touch it I went through PC no problem the only goofy
Revengeance gif I've seen is Jetstream Sam doing a weird hokey walk with his
leg sticking oh yeah but I haven't seen any like falling out of world I haven't
seen a video I read that on a forum when I think of the last thing I think of is
shit like falling through the world that's chasing dead that's strange well
I'm wonderful on a one terrible I look at that fucking your game at launch had
through and then close that window and I'm never gonna watch this again sounds
about I was terrified oh wait hold on a second hold on I think I feel a power
outage coming on I was about to say better stick an ad in there to cover the
dead time what do we got over here I don't know I can't read it looks like a
box to me a crate but wait is it is it a crate okay that you this changes
check this out check this out Shabamzo power oh it's power I can't read it upside down I
thought it said tremors I was excited you want to grab a weight everywhere all
times there's a series coming well until then we got the power box guys okay so
what now we're playing well that's a good start that's a good god damn we've got
an infinity gauntlet of an oven mitt yeah okay that's a good start I can attest that the powers
of mind reality and so on so forth actually quite work because we use this the other day
there you go at our home we made some tasty treats oh you received one to your door and I
made sure that it cannot burn your hand because Thanos would not have it that way no and when
you fuck up on your little matte balls you can go reality and just like reset what you've done
yeah and I should or you just go back in time time time would work too there's a lot of options
really that glove is stupid why would you put soul involved get soul involved with your cooking I
don't think that because you soul food soul food that was yes on point literally what's called so
obvious I don't recognize that ball that you're more it's a dragon ball you don't recognize team four
stars logo oh it's because I can't count so we've got a team four star logo is literally the four
star dragon how much did they pay right look at this look at this talk about how to get in there
we've got a t-shirt it's on a shirt what kind of power is involved with this t-shirt warcraft
that looks like it can work I turn it around probably know what do you got that is work that
is warcraft for sure that is the upcoming film warcraft silhouette based warcraft shirt is that
character full of power let me let me see that's probably the guy who dies in warcraft one
and thralls that okay they should make a warcraft game for them they should they really should I
bet it would be very successful or like a heart stone I don't know some type of it almost yeah
right there it's so easy that one's free guys and we've got a qfig of dahulk and and that's great
portion of woolly's heart yeah it's put back into place also notice he's wearing the little
avengers shorts that are made to expand on it when everything's he's actually uniform to how's the
dong unlike all the other shorts he wears they just tear right off exactly hey hulk we're tired of
seeing your dick fall out you're so sure he's like no but hulk liked it and that moment has been
replicated in that figure and of course guidebook to power unstoppable unrelenting and unbeatable
get power well uh it's too late for power it's way too late this one's gone it's too late for
if woolly's holding the crate and we're doing this you really miss the boat on it but if you get if
you obtain a lot of power right and then you use that power to create a society that is almost
perfect all along but secretly you've got some creepy shit underneath that what would you call
madden town well yep that's pretty close but what would you historically call grenade okay well
the roman empire an empire what would what would you dynasty how to rise that
some kind of utopia dystopia something's wrong with this hey oh you did it you landed it the theme
for next month is dystopia so if you want to see i would bet someone five dollars that a blade
runner thing is in that box yeah i could see that we can confirm you're gonna see some robocop you're
gonna see some terminator you're gonna see some matrix you're gonna see by robocop at
Detroit that's the perfect city well not in the future uh future it's flawed by a shock
the far off future of 2005 and more so like they got some good dystopias in there already for sure
yeah and uh we don't know what the rest is gonna be so once again in the original give me two seconds
20 or was it 2010 whatever it is i have the poster and i stare at it all the time but i forget
anyway that is the theme for next month so if you want to get in on that you got to head on
now to lootcrate.com slash super use that promo code super save three bucks on your new subscription
and get in before the 19th and 19th to get your dystopia box okay if you say so overlord of the
dystopias well i mean look if there's one thing you got to get going to have a perfect society
it's got to be a torture order torture child on a box somewhere they'll come with like like an ant
colony and like those sea monkeys so you can create your own dystopias yeah underwater dystopias
they're the best kind what you got pre cons for the time period of robocop i have some very unclear
ah i have everything ranging from 88 to 2044 it's five the answers will come in next month's box
okay good we covered it it's been 14 years all right and we're resuming the pod i'm dead again
yeah so like i don't know it's it's definitely their worst game like i'm not even gonna contest
anyone on that because it's not and it's easy to say that because like the the studio is like
what nine years old yeah they're low they're low bar is like mad world anarchy reigns in kora and i
love those i love those two games but i think i think the asterisk we put on um or get platinum
to develop a thing is with time and money yeah with time and money of course like after you have to
like you wouldn't get from software to to make a thing in six months because it could just be a
crapshoot like this everyone should always have time and money yeah like like but now we have to
specify that i saw people online cheering that like now platinum fans can't just say make platinum
make it no like no that's you're wrong that's not gonna stop yeah no way like i'll i'll i'll
gladly say that like after this after the third act of vision game like there is blame to put on
both sides kind of here in terms of like yeah platinum you're not good enough to do this amount
with this amount of time and budget i was gonna say like even besides that like the design is bad
in some way the design the design is bad i really feel i said this before i this feels like a sequel
to it the first tmnt game that platinum did not develop that you're already familiar with
features like i really feel like just maybe a two player split screen option and like just a
single player thing and with really great platinum combat and then move into more of a big co-op
thing it seemed like the more natural choice but who knows honestly i really just wish they could
patch it to remove the other three turtles on screen to normalize the both help boss health bars
and adjust all the missions to not be multiplayer centric if it helps you if this helps allay
or deepen your fear uh as as far as i can recall tmnt out of the shadows is on the consoles and
especially on pc no sorry on the pc and 360 but the worst version was the ps3 version i believe
they never ever got patched nice because that game had way more bugs yeah were you mentioning
that yeah i was able to complete some missions on the 360 and i know for a fact that the ps3
port unfortunately is even worse so active vision does not pay for that stuff any company
universally with time and money like you get your good product that is not true silver dollar with
time and money that is not you get a good product majesco's never made a good game their god damn
life no they've never made a good game but they time and money they published some good ones yeah
they published uh double dragon neon but they're square annex never made a good game
game never man zeno gears never happened square annex would make that brash sure time and money
sure brash final fantasy 10 though did you ever rewatch that unseen 64 video by liam robertson
about brash i remember you telling me about it dude you would love that video because it's just
dumb rock star hollywood executives they're on the ground floor you tested some shit i and i got
brash had good emails though now it didn't i got to read the emails it was great fair enough um what
else played a bit of sly cooper 2 actually that i i just finished the first one last year hd collection
from way back yeah exactly and i i've been wanting to go through them because i've actually i don't
for some reason i've always wanted to play sly 4 i don't know so i'm just going through them you
can't you need to catch up on the story yeah the first one was really enjoyable really good 3d
platformer that i totally wrote off because i was a huge nintendo fanboy i i had a playstation i
totally missed it it's like super so yeah and i did the same thing you did i i bought the hd
collection and played about halfway through the first one i was like this is really good yeah and
then kind of fell off the second one like they change up the structure a bunch and it it you go
each chapter is a small open world hub and it's a small hub it's not like a huge fucking italy
in like Assassin's Creed 2 or some shit sorry i'm kind of stunned at the idea that there was a
time when you ignored sony really that one in i was a huge nintendo fanboy up until last year
up until the vita came out but streets honestly are you for real what's your timeline i'm when i
was really random consoles i really ran in times when i was a kid um my cousins across the road
had an nes and i went over all the time and i played nes there uh we got a genesis right after
that uh at some point i had natari 2600 i think that was just before the genesis uh my grandpa
had that and we just we just took it hey grandpa yeah and uh and then i got a gameboy color at
some point in there see see it so i was playing a bunch of junk all over the place totally missed
n64 and ps1 just gone and then i got and then i got a gamecube when that happened
christ yeah i know i rented paper mario a bunch that's why i like it so much you didn't play
like a fucking 90 of the ps1 catalog not when it happened okay cool i've gone back to a lot of it
but like fuck i'll i'll really quickly i'll go i had a gamecube when it came out to 2004 and i
still had it but then i bought a ps2 for middle gear solid 3 and i was like the playstation 2 is
the greatest system of all time i'm drowning in games over here and cannot be beat right and then i
hated the xbox and everything i stood for for whatever amount of years because i had a dumb friend
i'd always had one was like the xbox is the best i was like shut up the gamecube is the best or the
playstation 2 is the best and then like now my favorite consoles ever of all time is the playstation
one the xbox one because now i think their catalogs are so interesting that console is
amazing totally true yeah in hindsight there's so many weird underrated classics on that fucking
dreamcast of the west um oh but uh and then like yeah no i was a huge nintendo fanboy through the
like gba uh we love the gs i was i was in love with nintendo and i bought a ps3 in 2007
because i needed virtual fighter five yes i didn't even i'd never played another virtual
fighter but something about virtual fighter five just looked like the best thing at the time
you're completely right yeah wasn't the 360 version better did it come out it wasn't
considerably later came out like over a year but it had online it had online and it was a newer
revision which made everyone had a ps3 copy it didn't get that easy for good reason i got the
ps3 it never got virtual fighter five what i know weird huh i don't understand this i was a kid i could
only afford the ps3 i know i rented virtual fighter five four times in a row and i was like yeah okay
now uh but like and i got a psp a year after that because i got a good deal in the Darth Vader one
but like i was still a real like nintendo warrior and like the 3ds i thought i the 3ds i got one like
two weeks early from a friend who worked in a store who just stole it from the store for me
because i was like dude i need to get one i need to get wow he didn't actually like crime basic we
put a dsi in the 3ds box and he put that back in the lock up no that's a crime but he was i know
statute of limitations is off on that you can't talk that down that's a fucking cry so we had a 3ds
i mean i bought it i paid for it you know and it was my dsi in the box and it was reserved for him
because he was the manager anyway but um but like i got a 3ds two weeks ahead of time and i was the
guy on the forum posting early videos and pictures of like yo look at all these ubisoft games that
they're selling at a time shut down game zone street date breaker leon yeah absolutely um and
like it really wasn't until the vita came out where i was like wait okay okay wait
that i can really see the flaws with the 3ds they're really noticeable this time and then you
started to slowly pull your head out of your ass well it was pretty quick right into the other
like stuff like orifice his own mouth my own mouth how do you do your head and i don't i'm gonna
this pasture into this slightly more malnourished pasture i thought the psps honey you would have
suckled you in no i mean i like the psps there's the screen difference on that when you get that
after owning nintendo hand no the psb is terrible just to hold it no but just the screen turning
on for that first time and being so shiny yeah is like my my friend oh my god nintendo get my
friend did not a psp at launch i borrowed it play out the psb sucks compared to regular ds light
just in terms of like its general library and just holding it and the ds light is still not great
to hold it i think i think the psp can stand pretty much toe to toe with the ds now like
because remember it got continued to exist games for like five years after the ds as well
like summer night five just came out this year for the psp i think i think that the ds lights
like everything outside of the screen was way nicer but the screen on the psp can we continue
this this topic for a little bit about our rampant fanboyism in our youth yeah because like i remember
when i was a kid i had a sega genesis and i was the worst i think you told this to us briefly
i was the worst person about that because it was the better it was the better machine sucks
because shut up oh there you go like that level they don't have is what dude and then i got a saturn
and then i got a playstation one because the saturn died where you crushed my soul did you ever
have to preach like vector man to people no vector man sucks x-man 2 is way better but um he's right
i'm super right who's gonna argue that no one because x-man 2 is great um and then i remember
i remember the day that i stopped doing that that i stopped being like a huge shitty fanboy
and it was the day that i went over to my friend mark's house and he was playing ocarina of time
and i was like you're like oh can i borrow your n64 you can play all these final fantasies
and we and we swapped and for me it was when i walked over to a guy's house and he had middle
gear solid on his playstation and i was like i need to borrow a friend's playstation
i think my timeline is a lot simpler in fact there was a short film that came out i tweeted it out
uh it was about uh i forgot what it's called but it's about being player 2 and basically it's like
yeah you're talking non-stop about this really i they're never running up once you talked about
all over your twitter and over the weekend you're telling people about i was always player green
and fuck because someone asked to someone's because that that fan that came up and it was like who
what i'm saying is that i've been around you where you've been talking about player one two three
and four lately so the whole pretty defensive about how much you're talking about this so the whole
thing was like uh we just followed the nintendo timeline and that was pretty much what i did and
like until what point and i had an older brother so like it was always multiplayer you know that's
kind of how it was or i was watching him play a lot of the time and uh we followed that up and would
argue against like sega people and whatnot but it was i we would never say things like oh this
exclusive doesn't matter because it'd be like oh shit i did i don't know what that game's about
i never played it yeah i don't know how would you know right but i would yell at people and go like
fuck you your stupid version of street fighters garbage go press select to kick ass yeah right um
the Aladdin one was always the most intense and one there's always the sparkster one which is still
a uh well the main the main problem with that is that most people who own super nintendo like don't
know what the genesis people are talking about because they're not as smart so then after that yeah
because people that say fuck you mega man x is bad are really smart yeah no i i said that in public
and then like at a later date was like oh no that game's awesome i was just jealous you know and then
like but e-swat and we were mario karting it up i don't even know what that is yeah i don't know what
that is this is sega arcade port to genesis that came out it's all right was there any you want to
talk about jack and the forever man it's kind of like mega man x kind of was anything like similar
to mario kart that what do you mean and on the genesis at the time uh there's an ubisoft
kart racer called street racer that was on both consoles not that i not that i played not that i
played to mario kart okay because like i remember the like one time when i was like i was playing
cyborg justice and my all my friends genesis that game is all bad ass oh man i'm now i'm kind of jealous
now i'm jealous you know and that's one of those games that the the shitty sound chip really
actually aids the soundtrack because he's so crunchy it's like but then i think i think i'm
a multi-player metal warriors to get it out of my system right you know i think the multiplayer game
i played the most as a kid was uh was probably combat on the 26 combat the original come you want
to talk good matchups with the Atari 26 combat is fucking sick that game still holds up the only time
ever got jealous was specifically sonic 2 not sonic 1 the second one whatever yeah sonic yeah no i had
a genesis and i was like sonic one whatever no i think the first time like we broke out of just
the nintendo line was when the dream cast came well for a lot for a lot of families games was just
get the nintendo nintendo my mom called my mother exactly still calls it a nintendo yeah so it's so
ubiquitous exactly and then when um and it wasn't it was in playstations it was when the dream cast
came along and we saw the like really like 1999 2000 yeah yeah we saw those because we used to buy
madden every year as well so we saw he saw that it was like holy shit madden and then madden and then
they're like oh by the way all the capcom arcade games are coming and i was like fuck everything
that's the one you want yeah screaming into an e gm because code veronica was going to come out
oh yeah all capcom like was pimping the dream like so hard like every single one of these games has
been on the playstation and now the new 3d one that i've wanted for years he's got him that's all
fuck and my and like my my secondary dream after mainframe was go work for capcom at the time so
i'm like oh my god you'll get there one day buddy yeah don't worry willy soon but uh gotta kill
combo fiend you know and then from that it just that that's when i kind of just went into the i will
always buy the nintendo console and then as soon as a game comes out that'll make me get the other
thing shadow the colossus makes sense yeah done yeah yeah three five or five done uh what was it
for i don't even remember what it was never but what did you buy a playstation 3 for a playstation
3 was just for journey i believe it was journey it wasn't mgs4 it was borrowed no i borrowed i borrowed
it oh you borrowed you borrowed the real rock the real rock i borrowed it from rocky and then he
looks at me and says man i can't believe i beat it i'm gonna give it back to rocky tomorrow and i
look at him and go you have to give it back to him tomorrow when yeah he says like in the evening
is like can i just stay here and just beat the whole game and he said uh and i went to bed and pat
just stayed up and played through it yeah so that was exactly it no it wasn't mgs4 it was it was
journey that got me for me for me i think like the only the point where i started not being such a
crazy nintendo like fanboy kind of because i was still really young at the time was it was uh
resident evil 5 mgs4 and street fighter 4 where i was like okay because i never had street fighter
as a kid uh that didn't exist to me at all wow yeah well because think about it so yeah if i was it
if i didn't know arcades to go if i didn't play street fighter 2 i sure as fuck wasn't playing
street fighter 3 right so like that kind of went over my head completely you know like after school
there was two things too that helped with uh like me and my friends was like besides the arcade
we had the video store that would let you play whatever game for half an hour for two
shut up like at the store right yeah at the micro play oh yeah i didn't have a micro plane here man
that's good stuff over two so that's when it was like okay go preview everything and that's when i
first saw devil may cry even as a kid two bucks is affordable like that's when i used for i first
saw my r64 i first saw sonic it was so fucking next oh my god like that will make cries the first
game i ever rented for my playstation 2 that i just bought well like the first may actually
paying money job i ever got that's what i used it to buy a playstation 2 and i rented devil may cry
that night because i didn't have enough money left over to buy it devil may cry demo came with
something i think and was it code Veronica x and i doubt it i don't know but it's just fuck
yeah i remember being more of a fanboy for fighting games oh for sure in general and being
where i was like tech in fucking sucks virtual fighter for life wait i can't wait what you said
that yeah you i hated tech in up until tech in three yeah then i played tech in three in an arcade
it was like virtual fighter sucks that what you did at the time that was a total inverse of their
quality at that point yeah yeah so because because virtual fighter three just come out and then four
came out for both and inverted it again yeah like i i don't really love it but i love soul
i hated street fighter alpha for whatever reason i was like whatever killer instant ultimate
mortal combat three primal rage get out of here superior american day i hate you and all the bands
you like your time is over but then i played street fighter alpha two and i was like whoa get out of
your mortal god but it didn't matter i remember because this is the one of the things we bonded
over matt was the fact that whole owning an n64 man we got nothing you none of those for fighting
game you had you had to you had to put it place a crown upon which shit fighting game you had
whatever you could fucking get deadly arts i'll take it fighters that fighters actually like
flying freak flying dragon i guess i'll take it no it had to be exclusive flying dragon like
but no but yeah no but i'm saying bye bye yeah no but we just we settled for whatever the fuck we
could and then i'd go to my friend's house play street fighter alpha or like tomba gets super salty
at it and then and then go back home and tomba's great it is yeah it's just really specific it's
not great oh really when we played on physicals if we didn't none of us had a great time no that's
to ball we're thinking of tomba no no it's not great all of this was for sly cooper yeah
so i just completely missed sly i never thought anything of it and i was like oh it's that not
nintendo why'd you miss sly because i didn't give a shit about okay all right um but yeah
fuck sly two is like super good and i'm really keen to keep going forward with the series and the
characters are really like well written as well i'm surprised i didn't think anything i don't know
i i kind of expected even going back to them that they'd be like whatever forgettable sevens or
something but they're super solid and they've aged really well i got a really weird period where
they put out three different mascot plan yeah i was just thinking to myself and i've ignored
all of them none of them never touched the sly cooper game jack and daxter ratchet and clank
they were all high quality never even successful and none of them ever hit like mario did ever not
even close they're good like ratchet's ongoing like plank one ratchet's ongoing so that one did it
fucking awesome those games are great and sly is good and jack one and jack two are really great
combat racing's really good yeah but like but it wasn't the kind of game that you'd go out and be
like fuck i gotta get my hands on clearly not for us anyway yeah like play stations mario 64
and they always just fell like 10 short but if you had everyone but there's nine of them and it's
funny because you look back on these games and the reviews were great the sales were like really
respectable like they were bad the mario game at the time or even the sonic game at the time
you didn't really think about those games yeah well exactly i was playing fucking mario sunshine
and i was like this is fucking amazing because it was so it was fantastic it was it was sunshine
was fun i don't care what sunshine it's not as good as 64 i don't like it as much no it's really
good so you're saying it's the worst mario game which is a lot of good mario games i mean it'll
it's it's it's you know in a weird place yeah it's a weird place it's in a weird place but it's
in a place where it was fun one mario game which you say is worse than sarah is missing what main
mario game that was developed by nintendo what do you say is worse than mario sunshine
because i wouldn't count mario is missing any of those cd is super mario bros too
no are you crazy that doesn't count i didn't like that one very no no it counts but i well no then
i love that game if you believe so personal preference is all yeah i never really liked the
land games i never played them i gave them i gave them solid efforts and i never enjoyed
did you play the second one uh probably for about an hour okay because the second one's worth
going back to because it's really short it's super short you'll blast through it in an afternoon
and it's like a huge improvement over the first super mario land that was like practically archaic
you know i bet you if i played mario sunshine today it's probably pretty good it's really good
but it was not probably bar like like when it came out even i remember it was like oh this isn't
as amazing as 64 was it's kind of feels restricted and stuff but the only argument i
i'm just saying there's fun in there considering i never played it i have i have to admit that
like here's people shit on it or whatever it's like it has to be the most unfavorable act to follow
ever ever yeah like i mean galaxies like you know no i mean but like how are you supposed to follow
mario 64 64 yeah oh following 64 yeah yeah yeah it was it was exactly come on super hard what do
you do please look forward to our full lp of mario unless you make the best game ever again you're
not like it's kind of interesting because they went from like a castle with magic teleporters to
like let's make a full-fledged island you know more or less so it's like the inverse of wind
waker where wind waker comes after ocarina of time but i still think wind waker is like unique and
fun and like just is good or whatever whereas mario sunshine is kind of the same thing just with
one added gimmick and that's where you already pisses all over everything pretty much blood
in a couple other minor things anyway so besides like who anyway because we're gonna roll yeah and
the only other thing we're doing the only other thing i'm gonna uh mention even is they put out
a new demo for uh toki den two uh so they put out the vita one and they updated the ps4 one to be
at like feature parody i see like update parody uh it's like a huge improvement over the first demo
really in the whole way tell me well one of the one of the issues with the ps4 one was its frame
rate was all over the place and um and now on the ps4 the frame rates like really respectable all
over no problems anywhere good and on the vita surprisingly even though the ps4 one was initially
all over the place the vita's frame rates really good uh for good like they genuinely did it assets
i imagine oh yeah okay good because that's that who cares like it's like it's a performance that
matters yeah no totally uh good they surprisingly are making the open world totally work on the
vita keep fighting monster hunter everybody keep fighting it you're gonna only make it stronger
and everyone wins pretty much exactly like like what's the negative here you get two great games
instead yeah or actually more yeah more than two they they made the the claw work a little bit better
on the ps4 because it had some like targeting issues where you'd aim at something but you'd
like it tags something else instead but they improved it a bit and i was really surprised
because on the vita i think it's you'll hate it you would hate it and i'd never recommend it to you
i'm got a big smile on the face but i think it's actually better on the vita version because you
just touch and it just it it grabs that thing right away i can see the argument for that but i
absolutely can't know exactly on ps4 you have to hold a button and aim it well because for me right
you know what happens when i touch my vita screen you have to clean it i touch it and then i clean it
i have to clean it i have to clean it but uh i have to clean it now because i'm thinking about it
yeah no i get i get you on that too i clean the screen all the time but uh basically yeah it's
the either you aim on the ps4 version or you just tap so i think it's better but yeah who knows uh
it's like like well that the game you're right that is an objectively better way to control
this just faster it is faster yeah so i wonder if they would actually alter it very slightly maybe
i think the games are compatible like i think you can so they know so probably so they should then
balance around the slower uh ps4 version and just have the vita people have a slightly easier time
yeah exactly it's not as uh crucial as in freedom wars anyway it's the primary
exactly and this it's really a secondary mechanic and they added like some cool stuff to it like
bosses will have this this move or they'll have a big tell with a red aura and if you get them with
it on that your character just yanks them to the ground and smashes them into the floor and gives
you a good stun opportunity but uh yeah just uh really good improvements considering in japan
it's coming out in july i think but here it's not announced yet i mean it'll it will because it's
tecmo but you know it's like if they were in direct competition with like monster hunter x yeah like
it's it's more ambitious than monster hunter x's oh the open world is really impressive and like i
played around a bit more in the open world and like you look at the map and there are exclamation
marks and you go to them and there's a guy there who's like hey yo my tree's corrupted go and you
go to the tree and you do your like uncorruption thing and then like a big oni comes out of it
and you you do a big fight there it sounds like a genuine and you go back to it's a fucking open
world game of the hunting genre yeah which i hope everyone steals it's no definitely i think that
monster hunter should fucking do this every monster hunter wasn't stuck in the fucking ps2 era for the
past 20 years or whatever it'd be really nice if a single game could top dinosaur hunting but
unfortunately they never will no it's it's really just not possible we'll look at
there one day but that day is far away yeah and you didn't play dinosaur hunting dinosaur hunting
it's the most incredible hunting game ever is really take the photos no no it's like Liam played it
it's it's like a an american hunting game but for dinosaurs and it's made in japan but it plays
like a japanese game yeah so it's neat but it's not great actually no shut up it's great oh man
but i don't know between between neo and uh tokidentu
tecmo koi is like super stepping up their game yeah just as a little thing man i got two secret
dino games for you two secret dino games i bet i own one of them okay okay yeah
they're like in high school people would say anyone that likes a playstation they're like
enjoy your play with yourself station and everyone would go oh and enjoy your n 60 bore
oh the biggest burns and when the truth of the matter is yo your parents got you a thing you had
no choice in the matter you like your social class was decided for you done and done and the rich kids
were above it all because they had everything yep i knew a rich fuck that had like every console at
the time he didn't have a saturn though because why and i love sega so much and saturn has some good
games of even i will be like why the saturn is cool it's just it ended just too soon to get a decent
american it's worse than the genesis and worse than the dream cast in japan uh i don't know if
when you were there you ever looked but the saturn library in japan is fucking yeah yeah yeah it is
yeah the saturn like the saturn has like 50 wrestling games in japan and like it's like yeah it's like
down there with w u for sure in regards to like no american one anyway yeah fucking i'm keeping this in
this is interesting i was pissing i know the saturn also like could do 2d games way better than the
places yeah did you guys it was just because of the sprites and like and the and the fact that
like you could look at 2d being handled better on a side-by-side comparison with a lot of the
playstation stuff it was plain to see plus it had final fight revenge the greatest game well bang
did you guys see the really cool digital foundry video that they put up this morning that was on
the uh on the saturn it was on the quake port to the saturn oh yeah i saw that yeah uh they put
that up this morning and they said they might do more retro ones if there's a quake port for the
no there was going to be okay are you sure i i thought so okay unless like unless i've asked
for the ti 83 calculator unless i remember playing i remember playing and beating quick
got a port to the on a playstation playstation 1 and n64 that was a ghetto ass experience
i remember looking at trailers for resident yeah quake on the sega saturn is out it exists
it does i can buy it on amazon right now in a complete form wow i was so excited by the footage
at the time i still want to play it it looks the looks really cool ghetto sprites are awesome
hey hey remember last week when we talked about heretic and hexon yeah because i just went on
steam and i bought that the entire heretic and hexon like did you did you know uh using that
like quake thing on the we on the homebrew channel oh yeah you can play heretic oh i didn't know you
could play heretic with the point of controls everything quake port ever it's amazing did you
guys play the quake port on i did it's amazing because it uses the because it uses the pointer
and everything if it's fucking the boss's console it's not official it's uh it's a fan thing oh yeah
really the port of quakes of the we is not official i don't know quakes on fucking calculators so
quakes in your browser yeah quakes everywhere um but uh saturn was sad yeah and it's it's just a
shame you went past like a good machine you went into um tokyo then and then and that that was
fast and i went to went to my cousin's wedding very nice wedding but that's that's pretty much
congratulations to your cousin everyone every time we brought it up everyone thought you were
getting married because we would say we would say Liam's gone to a wedding yeah and people
automatically think you're marrying like a pillow or something of course of course we would have said
his wedding yeah that's usually what occurs that's a humorous anecdote yeah it is i guess i'll go um
so okay without woolly without out of my house i'll leave hey don't don't shit in my chair funny
jokes uh so someday we'll have them outside of uh like momo con stuff which uh we will talk about
there's the uh i guess well one i want to give shout outs to
she really henry for winning the canadian nationals yes which is fucking nuts tournament
motherfucker did it his good stuff his stupid one round matches well in the finals they
corrected did they correct it for every once it went to the regionals and then the canadian
finals okay cool it they they made it because i only heard the news but i didn't know it got
fixed so i was like yeah he won this shit tournament thing ever okay but uh are you sure
you didn't play mario at the end of the national yeah so the i told you guys about the rules of
like the the pools right and like when it got to the nationals it was they were held at the
in toronto at a giant cineplex odion theater and uh yeah man dude won it and got his uh his 10k
prize pot so you're pretty good at getting beat down says no one on twitter yeah every time i go
to the fucking movies this still play that fucking stupid trailer and i'm just like put
in my face my hands like don't be the street fighter trailer oh um i see the the physical
ads on the walls for that yeah the big poster when i'm pissing in the fucking uh uh bathrooms of
that theater they're like blue the street fighter tournament it's gonna go down a week ago yeah and
i'm like did you not take these ads down now you got movies to advertise when i went to see uh what
fucking x-men well i want to go see x-men i knew what movie you saw there was a fucking trailer
in the pre-show for x-men yeah i thought so fucking ad the pre-show bit oh my god star wars and
there was four ads for star wars i'm cool with it because they interviewed my friends and quoted
them oh you know what like they got storm out in front of the movie going hey lots of people
work to make this movie so don't steal it please like i'm sitting in the cinema i want to steal it
now fuck you you gave me the lust to steal it premature no like pirates don't have to look at
your stupid actor they'll also probably cut that part out yeah that's what i'm at that's what i'm at
so yeah no uh and speaking of movies uh i i went and i watched that movie high rise that i was telling
you guys about last time so this was something that i decided to watch just based on seeing the
poster for it alone because the poster looked super interesting and i was like you know what i've
never heard of this i don't know why uh it just kind of feels like i came out of nowhere but
starring tom hiddleston um we talked about this briefly that yeah and well because you gave me
some insight into why this type of thing might exist because i read about this and um i fucking
went out i'm gonna let me show you guys the poster so you can kind of see yeah i'm not i'm really
wanting to see the poster because it feels like it's this is what it is and i was like
that's fucking cool i like that kind of 70s aesthetic with that's a cool poster right what's
going on here it's a movie about tom hiddleston living in a high rise where you live there and
the the the bourgeois are on the top and the the scum are on the bottom you never get to leave
those scum and then it's all out war do you ever get to leave or no uh it seems like you can if
you have a job or so okay but then it's unclear once the movie started the movie sucked it was a
huge waste of time cool and it's just those two sentences kind of made me feel like okay how is
this going to be exactly and that's the fucking bummer is that you go into it and it's like
your it's the first half of it is shot so nice like that poster it's so clean and they do all
these amazing building shots aesthetic things because you know you can play with all these like
external uh shots of the building and just very artful amazing like a high concept for that
hitchcock movie where the guys looking across the the the back alley towards the the the the
apartments in front of them i don't know the one you're talking about but rear window yeah i'm
thinking a rear one but you have lots of night lots of artsy shots in that way and then when
you're showing off all the rich apartments and all the the the fact that this guy yeah the
fact that sky has a hedge maze and horses it's just architecture for only went down the list of how
much bourgeoisie shit they have on the top floor like motherfuckers being their powdered wigs
having like areas potty wait what year you know that's not just because we want to do it okay yeah
and the whole thing is like that's not bourgeoisie man that's like straight up royalty that's like
and when they're used and they're having parties so elaborate that they're using all the power
on the floor for the whole building yeah like like the grocery stores on the 15th and everything
below it just loses the building pat lives in so it just you know it just gets fucking like i guess
it is i guess so it gets weirder and weirder from there also starring um um uh secretary girl from
mad men not um not hendrix but i don't care the intern girl yeah sure but you know and it was just
passed yeah and and it was just like it ended up just losing the plot it just became random and
almost shot and i kind of like we're trying to be artsy and like show you how people go become mad
and the director became mad right the shots start me stop making sense all right i'm done but it's
just like you're mad you're you have no message anymore and it was a huge waste of time and so
i was like mad in your message just eventually was i bad was i wrong for venturing out of the realm
of recommendations holy just going into the dark hiddleston is a huge actor now and everyone likes
him how did i miss this one will he might say it's because sometimes europe will just throw money
at big huge hollywood actors and say we're going to distribute this movie big time in europe yeah
and you're not going to hear about it because this is mostly for a europe market right but
you know you can get on vod you can get it wherever they get that and we get ice cube movies so it's
a good trade off and that's why you don't hear about it because a lot of the time american
distributors will look at this movie that was made in europe and and written by european or made
them like this isn't for us we're not going to pick this up but mostly because a it sucks or b it's
just like a weird thing there's a weird deal or whatever so no i so i reached out and i got burnt
into the abyss and then that was it and i'm like all right back to the list of recommend solid
recommendations for me yeah it's because when you talk about your horror movies
man like we're we're discussing this earlier it's like how do you know when there's so much out there
that this random one is gonna you have to get a recommendation you can't go in a poster because
usually on going blinding is gonna work on netflix or xbox or psn video there'll be amazing horror
movie posters there'll be stuff that looks like samurai cop that looks like turbo kid and you'll
be like fuck yeah and then i'm like no i can't trust the poster but then you'll remember like it
only costs like two thousand dollars to make an amazing poster these days but even the trailer
for high rise still had me interested so woolly what you're saying is that it's not it's not about
censoring the net it's about creating context so that you don't get lost in the coming flood of
information yeah it's about getting a care about reality in your life make it you need curation
of some kind but then how are we gonna simulate solid snake
well when the time came it was so right in mgs2 we are all just talking about that every year
didn't even know how right he was yeah i know he was so right yeah so it's not like a 63 on rotten
tomatoes and a 45 audience score so okay snow piercer by the way has a 95 yep just fucks just
not snow piercer two or three mind you there's a movie oh yeah okay now we have to go read three
right dude we i really we have to go read it yeah okay there's a film called lobster that has
Colin Farrell in it and he plays a mutated lobster man and it has a 99 percent of rotten tomatoes
and it's a weird european film that no one's ever heard of great just put now i should watch it put
how much they paid him on the poster just so we know so speaking of curation and recommendations
and not venturing outside of the safety box you watch Naruto i started and completed ridiculous
fishing oh cool on both plane rides what do you think of it what a good ass game just fantastic
fucking what a good ass mobile game yeah uh very not much else to say about what else are you
gonna say that part where you went into space was pretty good um their their role when they made the
game told to me verbally was we wanted to make the best mobile game okay and i love i love how
like you have a ton to do after you beat it yeah it's super cool like that and i'm gonna keep playing
the the games like i've done really i saw the credits yeah the games are really decent sized
chunk of content and it's got it's got a lot like there's a lot to it no and i i you know like i
definitely had the person next to me on both both rides like like what the fuck is this tilting what
do you it's asshole doing and then like eventually kind of walk clearly watching over my shoulder
during some of the deeper runs and stuff yeah controls are fantastic so fun so good not much
else there i should play that too it's dude it's so good play it on your phone rather than your
tablet if you can yes absolutely because you'll be tilting because it'll be a bit more cumbersome
because the way the way that you you move the the the the line back and forth is to to move your
phone like this so it'll be more cumbersome so like on your tablet maybe you'll be able to make
it work but also like shooting specific things in the out of the air when you need precision yeah
might be a bit harder tablet for hearthstone phone for ridiculous fishing um tablet probably makes
some super hacks super hexagon easier if i think about it i bet it's easier to see yeah uh yeah and
you know that's pretty much it but outside of like con related stuff so um momo con then
happened this weekend the con of momo's and not a single peach girl cosplay fuck that another day
of me being disappointed no one remembers i love peach wait another day what do you mean another
weekend yeah the day is compared sick burn all right moving on so every day matt gets up and just
turns his head left and right there's no peach girl cosplayers and he rests his head back down and
screams that his life is wasted it was just put some lipstick on a peach so the first thing i will
i want to report is as usual arrive in the hotel room turn on that cartu network never let it go
yeah right the whole time it's probably still now go just shut up willy everything you're
gonna say shut up tell them about that bit in clarence that's where i'm going right now okay good
because basically my whole thing with watching tv in the states is turn on art on cartu network
you see some cool ass shit and you're in this time around i saw this really awesome um teen titans
random clip where where uh cyborg is like going through an 80s metal video riding on a bike that
becomes a pegasus that becomes like a a fucking wolf yeah well it's amazing and i was like yeah
it's blood dragon a music video we we need this in our lives and so and the whole time i
every time we'd go down there the only thing that bugged me all the time is clarence because
i'd be like i never got into clarence i never liked when it was on and i never really laughed at it
but i i didn't really see a ton it would just be like okay now i can switch to forensic files or
whatever and then come back to this one's clarence is done but i finally this weekend got sold on it
when there was a so random part in this episode where uh do you remember clarence the one with
the weirdly weird art style yeah okay so this he's hanging out with this kid that's like a like this
way younger than him and he's like super obsessed with like secretive nym and red wall and those
kinds of show those are great right little mouse and animal adventures i love those as a kid so so
like he so clarence is hanging out with him he's like okay whatever we'll order pizza and do our
thing and the kid's super weird and like he's trying to like see it through his eyes he's trying
to enact out like these little stories in his head and stuff so it like it hits a point where
like he clarence can't find him and he's like he looks he looks he's like are you in this room
over here and he's like peeking in and like you see like and then basically the kid is in like
the garage and like he's with his animal friends and like you see like a like a lizard that's like
singing with a cape like a full duke outfit and i'm a little squirrel that's got like a little
motherly like a hood and stuff and like and all these like little like disney animals having this
amazing musical adventure and they're and clarence just looking in on it and they're like they're
rejoicing because they're like juggling sausages and tomatoes and a feast for all of us our children
will die in tonight you know and they're dancing on like the cheese that's being cut and rolled and
stuff you know and like the kids don't like you the kids like amongst them too and having fun and
then clarence is like what the fuck's going on in here kind of thing and he opens the door and you
just see the kid in his diapers rolling in a pizza and bats and squirrels and actual bugs just
freaking out and roll is that they're like an owl there's a pigeon and like a couple of insects
and they're all just rotting on his body and like flickering and hitting the walls and freaking out
and clarence's like oh my god oh my god no like and then like later on uh like when like clarence
like like goes to bed and he's like you can't do that it's not cool get these fucking animals out
of my house you know whatever and like and he gets they all go to bed and then the kid sneaks down
and then they get into this whole like uh burn the witch kind of musical moment kind of thing
and so he's like yeah we have to attack clarence we have to stop him he's the the guy and so they go
they have this amazing mounted like march where they're flying on the pigeon back and then they're
all soldiering up to clarence's room with their little um sewing needles and stuff and then like
and like as the song comes to a crescendo they're all like and they're like attack and then again
cuts to real life and it's just a kid dumping a box of creatures on clarence's bed and one of them is
a worm that crawls into his hair and he's like chipmunks are everywhere fucking died i died it was
so strong i have a db i'm in i have a db the first two seasons of clarence and there's some episodes
they're like they're fine and there's some that fucking hit the ball so hard there's one where
there's like boys and girls and they're protecting a giant rock and because the rock has is the biggest
thing that they can climb on and when they're done fighting all day they're like okay my mom says
i gotta come home now all right see you tomorrow we'll be back and they all just go home with their
moms it gets the it's one of the purest like like adventure time is pure kid fun like steven
here versus but clarence has really written as they are actually written as they are and their
adventures are not real they're dumb kid adventures i remember thinking that was one of the better
ones we saw in cartoon network consistently plus has a really great intro everyone's just shouting
and yelling and i still don't like uncle grandpa still don't like it i love uncle grandpa he's
amazing you just like it because he showed up on steven he really brings down steven no i like the
things that specifically uncle grandpa did i don't the best the best thing to ever say to kids is
hey kids don't be afraid to be super weird if someone had told me no that's a good one if
someone had told me that when i was super weird i would not be here today that's a good i don't
like it but i won't turn it off i i like i can't get past the fact that uncle grandpa implies some
kind of nightmarish incest scenario that's the one that yeah yeah i can't forget about that oh that's
our good uncle grandpa we don't talk about grandpa steve like jesus christ there's also a really good
homage to on back in what shut up in clearance no in robot chicken oh in the hundredth episode
i'll believe that where he goes up the stairs and he kills everyone from the first season
in one camera shot and it's amazing so there's some good shit and i'm so like ah american tv i
fucking miss it man yeah and then you turn on the news you're like oh american tv and every other
commercials like hey do you need pills or a lawyer because we got both did your pills need you a lawyer
did they hurt you did you i want like i want to watch american tv and see an ad for pills
and then see an ad that is a lawyer saying have you taken these pills yeah because and then see
another lawyer who's like yo are you with this lawyer did you not that's bullshit and the last
one is another thing of pills for people who are you stressed about lawyers have you lost your home
and most of your belongings do fraudulent lawsuits then come on down to store them barn or whatever
the fuck where you can just store all your fucking shit man those those storage places are depressing
and they're everywhere they're everywhere except for that cool black guy on the internet with his
storage commercials uh wait which one i forgot what it's called uh big ass good ass storage good
ass storage and good ass barbecue full massage big ass yeah oh what the what the fuck's that guy's name
he's great probably like steve or something but yeah yeah those are solid pizza steve
jones good ass barbecue and foot massage that's it there you go so you know love this guy momocon
was it was pretty much the same experience this this year around uh you know all in all good fun
like we were wondering if this time around if we were going to have any like panel upset moments
especially after we've clearly indicated that our language is strong yeah yeah and did that
fucking bear attack you the bear no the bear got fucking he tried to come in kept him out seriously
he got bounced out of our panel he tried again he was there this year wow and someone tweeted the
picture like look who's here right and then like it got to updated with someone putting the i asked
because i saw that go go go go go go go go go go i'm shocked that he was even there like so
there was two you gotta keep up your hustle they multiplied right uh and so the staff bounced him
out he got bounced out of our panel i hope he got kicked out of the convention so because like that
shit was really not next year i was explaining that next year there will be an open rule that if you
wear this bear costume it's open season and staff will turn the other way well i'm i'm reasonable
i'm like if it's my panel time and you come into my stage this is my world you are part of my show
you've entered my world you've entered my domain now you wrestle for daddy oh yeah basically
that's it no rules don't pick me up bro yeah don't stun gunhead but me bro that was the worst
so um so there should have pushed him off we did all that come on that's i should have told him to
do a pose and then pushed him off the stage on the second event uh we broke his neck we did the
live sleeping break his bones quickly we uh on the on the sleeping dogs crime just set him on fire
no no no oh okay we didn't have anyone come and try to to push the momo con website twitter thing
while being warned about swearing but we did have a guy walk by with a little signboard telling us
hey guys watch the language and we're like no well that was because you guys wound up doing it in
like the game area not a panel room because it said noise bleed literally everyone in this entire
convention space can hear you because we were in the big gaming area that's not a panel room yeah
yeah there was no walls and we were pushing rose buds really hard uh not me hey you can't just
this is so well he's like pointing pointing at children walking by hey you want to know about
rose buds ask your mom about that timer but hole fell out so the one thing is that i'll recall that
oh my god sleeping dogs is good yeah that's really it's so much fun it's really really well and yeah
that that that particular sleeping dogs uh crime time was was pretty good lots of fun there and our
panel really really good and a lot of people calling me out saying of course you you forced your wife to
cosplay as pun pun kill chant i did not she did that of her own accord she did that on her own
fucking accord no one will ever believe you and will that cost feel will that costume be used in the
future perhaps on my birthday night maybe maybe but that's neither here nor there that's neither here
nor there but i that that was that was just generally really fun like like that like when he
brought that up i was like dude like when people saw like what my girlfriend looked like because of
the japan video they're like oh of course will he would date someone that looks like that i'm like
her hair was long when i met her i had nothing to do with that and then you forced her to cut it
and recently and recently she's like i'm thinking about dying it and i'm like i'm not influencing
anything you do your own thing everyone's gonna think i'm beating you that's what you say it's
short all right yeah damn it i'm not saying anything's gonna happen i'm just saying something
could happen oh look at zaria what why what did we do what what was really fun actually which
which at first you were a little hesitant about but i think we could probably go forward with
is having an autograph signing at if you if you have two events yeah have an autograph signing
after both yeah because we thought like and then who will come up for a second one yeah we were
worried about like it'll be so embarrassing and it will look like virgin superstar yeah that the
second sitting at an empty table but the the second autograph signing was just as filled
as the first because people who can't make it it makes sense a lot of people for whatever time so
that was a good idea so lots of lots of great fans came up to us and stuff there was an 8-bit guy
yeah with his purlers the same guy that made the the pat uh bowser and the me yoshi oh those
were really big i remember that yeah that guy gave me a uh tracer purler which now i love gave woolly
amazing ornstein and a really nice reboot logo purler and me a punisher logo purler yeah man
what what's a pearl oh it's like that little bowser thing um the beat art okay that's what that's
called yeah they're called purlers it's uh gave us those we're like whoa you're the guy yeah man
that's awesome thank you so much yeah that's me uh so we got we got dude that delivered the friends
of free cats oh nice right with the customizing letters from the side i couldn't really see it yeah
you can change it out he gave us a p a w n m and uh and uh and uh yeah everything you need all of it so
we got those going um of course we also have these little tasters japanese watermelon gummies
do you want to try one i'll try one see what they're like there you go individually wrapped
because japan wastes wrapping paper uh and hates the environment and i love them for it uh woolly
i sorry uh liam do you remember the guy that we're like we're trying to find peaches all last year
yeah and then a guy came with a box of peaches for us uh he showed up again this year and i'm really
sorry i forget his name but like he gave us this time like i'm really sorry i don't have anything
to give you but i'm gonna give you this box of s'mores cupcakes i made myself which i was like
yeah no we'll totally take them we put them in our fridge and i'm relieving we're like oh well i
gotta taste at least one and it's probably the most divine fucking thing ever because the bottom part
of the cupcake was graham cracker and the top part was like moist fucking cupcake and then with cream
in the middle it's like the best cupcake i've had a long time it was super good we uh there was a
comic guy that came by and gave us some good stuff and uh besides a whole bunch of guen guen
gueniverse covers and variations so he gave me the um the two issues of black punisher
getting oh when he gets turned black when he gets black and when luke cage has to
has to comfort him has to train him in the ways of black so that's a good time the the the the
the guen universe variants were just different comics and just here's a weird cover with guen
stacey bean whatever she hawk is the one i got i took the one where guen is venom you want to
order name is spider think about it guenum guenum oh actually that's that's awful it's
amazing i love it yeah yeah guenum good old scary guenum wait wait think about it no let it
no it's terrible i got i got no the cover has nothing to do with the comic it's just a variant
cover right yeah awesome japan good gummies japan and pat throw another gummy at me okay open your
mouth don't hit the microphone so there's also these wine gummies if you want to try this wow that's
they actually hit the microphone oh i tried um thanks pat yeah and and and don't do them like
reasons throw them in the trash when you when you're done there please oh thank you thank you for
bringing that up and so you know uh that was a good time pat we all found doom guy a little figure
of doom guy exactly like the game okay that's why i bought him yes you did he's a little doom guy now
and i fist bumped them is it a doom like 2016 piece of rapture cool awesome the the same people that
ran the cabinets came back and so i got to play some jupy that got attacked yeah yeah got to play
bone eater those guys are good right are you serious i really want to play that
and uh bone eater and a couple of other rhythm games i forget the one that looks kind of like
super beat sonic but it's not and you have the two dj max technica the two fevers are on the side
fne and uh there's endless like it and what's what is it it is a touchscreen circle um and the buttons
are coming out from the middle out to the edge outer rim kind of like the washing machine kind of
like persona uh dancing all night and then you have two custom fever buttons on the on the sides
for a spinning fever and then a everything fever not a hundred okay well anyway we tried that that
was kind of fun um of course three five or five was there and i spent most of my time just doing
casuals and and that was still playing the collie right now yeah yeah i'm sticking with it and um
the one thing i will say is like again like last time as well the weakness of momo con is right
next to that you look over at the console desert yeah and it's like all you see is endless monitors
with nothing plugged into them yeah expecting b y o c's and a lot of the times when there is a
console it's not connected to the internet you can't sign in there's no controller in sight
or there's like uh call of duty and that's the only game completely inadequate console setups
yeah nothing going on the same last smash was the only thing that had their shit together
there well smash had like something easy to break or are approaching cults now they're so well
you guess what a gamecube has a handle on it it does it has made to be very smash had something
crazy and it's visible so like a five thousand dollar turning pot yeah they had the smash dot gg
guys that came out smash kids have a lot of money to throw around that was that was cool um and uh
yeah we got also like i stuck my head into the rave but like it's the same problem yeah anime rave
exactly every rave is gonna have the same problem where like i just don't like the music
it's not what i want out of that kind of event unfortunately so one of its strengths of course
is like even the crowd where it's like hey look at all these 16 year olds dancing to their favorite
anime songs you know i did have my glowing glasses so it was a good excuse to wear them
i heard you never took them off all weekend even over dinner and are planning to wear them to every
funeral wedding you should see me in the shower it's it's a risky shower but i'm glad you don't
up to it test it i have shit on you probably more than anyone you've ever known in your entire life
yeah but that photo you put up with yourself with the glasses on looks pretty god damn cool yeah
like you do it you fuck take the cop it works it totally works and then it also kind of like
the cosplay group was like all right lucio fuck you you have no choice now yeah like oh you gotta
wear you gotta wear a hot shirt unfortunately kenny will always beat you because he's a slimmer
build yeah and he like he already started his his head but he's asking you for your glasses yeah
he already started but he's going for the hot 21 yeah but his head looks like lucio like he's
like he's the right tone yeah right everything uh i think normal constant generally talking about
is like just like a lot of cosplay centric events a lot of good stuff that undine cosplay
girl that's a fan that's probably the coolest i love she had the yellow fishy contact lenses
and everything yeah it was a point um some real funny characters we ran into funny funny
motherfuckers like hey dude uh ken ken ken you have a minute no we're sorry we're we're filled
with like all the the presents and stuff from from our autograph session and we're literally going
just back to our room really quickly gotta rush we have we have to go back to something else and he
goes yeah yeah okay okay and it was a very strange moment where the guys like hey can we stop our
picture like sorry we can't but we're doing our signing and stuff and it's like okay just come on
yeah he's like all right yeah i'm we're like he kind of was waiting around like i was like
we're like is that okay is that cool he's like yeah no that's fine and then he like had more to say
so we're like okay and he's like sorry guys i hit the mic oh hey woolly stay free and then walks away
and i'm like okay okay so you you can pull that off just running by me and then keep running no you
botched it by existing in the space but you can't do that after the whole thing in but before that so
the only the only thing that would have been weirder is if he didn't move leave so that so yeah like
that just evolved with matt and i over the weekend and then to like hey man love your stuff suck my
dick fuck you i love your shit pretty much that's pretty much how we treated bunny last time yeah
well we treated bunny worse is he still like a whiny bitch when you call him a whiny bitch
and we didn't call him that i wouldn't but we got we did get to go to and see the bunny hole
yeah we went deep deep into the bunny hole it's actually quite nice it's quite nice
asshole yes it's his apartment it's his apartment he was out of very spacious okay wow um
all those machinko machines are at my thing off what you just said is that we're having the
the nice autograph signing and then this elderly uh black lady i'd say like maybe in her 50s or
something comes up and takes one of our prints and says can you please sign this yeah and and i
and i it's a little bit closer to me so i go sure and she takes it pulls it away and she goes no
only woolly woolly's like okay and i go okay she signs it does not say thank you does not say anything
then then then huffs away and i go i thought i made some strides with the african community
i don't have half of your employees are black you know and then right prior that like four black
like the girls were like super high for both of us and they're and they didn't get the newsletter
i guess so that's the thing that's why i'm like i'm like that matt you you don't realize that like
the sms hasn't gone out yet i guess i guess so it's buddy is buddy behind this we talked to the
atlanta natives and tell them i was not cool what's going on anyway yes and then he's emailing
everyone saying matt is not a real rasta he won't buy your mixtape no and of course that
that evolves into uh matt being huge with the indian girl community and like and like but no woolly
only matt what have you done for indian girls lately i don't oh no shut up
anyway anyway um shout outs to total biscuit because he took us to a nice dinner place
we got to eat some good old brazilian style it's so crazy until you drop like type of like put the
paddle up to say please no more yeah that's what i did for uh my birthday yeah it was one of those
places system is weird you have to tell them go away yeah so it was a really great moment where
we're talking about rustling and i didn't know that woolly told me like yeah i know he's super
into rustling or whatever got back in got back in super hard and then woolly kind of goes oh yeah it's
just like when matt destroyed that guy's career on twitter and told us was like what and then we're
like well okay alex riley did a thing where he thought and he goes and told us go that was you
that destroyed alex riley and i was like push push push rage and i'm like yeah and he goes oh
i hate alex riley good good show good show and he was just so overjoyed that he's like it was you
guys i'm actually sitting with the legends that destroyed alex riley's are like i might be over
shooting out of his mouth a little bit a little bit a little bit selling it hard but
what i do what i do want to take away um from that that lovely dinner with him and uh his
lovely wife jenna yeah was that uh we were able to i feel like we were able to sell them and push
lucha underground as a concept a little bit i spent introducing the medallions and the belts and
such and and similarly they were able to turn us on to the fact that the edge and christian show
gets way better after episode three what that show had some fucking potential apparently if you
stick around after episode they find their stride they find their stride exactly they figure it out
and they have some good ass bits that keep on coming okay i would really including getting the
likes of superstar virgil to appear and do a bit i would love to watch that so now i want to watch
when we saw the first one it was just disappointing but you could tell there was the idea was there
the power was there but they didn't know how to access it like some like like slightly slower
build up as like the erica andre show it should have been no i but it wasn't okay but it could
but there was something the first episode just wasn't that good yeah like at all it wasn't like
funny not good it was just not that good there were bits like they got shockmaster to come in
and test running through walls again wow yeah no i know right actor or wrestler weird tugboat
tugboat seems like it would be hard to fuck up right that's why it was disappointing must
must have been too long without their their onscreen chemistry like ninja turtles i can't
believe they fucked it up again should have been you know i think we can we can safely say that
like when it comes to atlanta cuisine we've done it yeah i think we hit up little five points and
did all the places order savage pizza and vortex burger yeah we've when it comes to the cuisine of
this entire area we've eaten at five you know what was back okay but if you come to montreal and you
do uh schwarz's um let's say um um what should we call it um the chicken place um um on reichel
no on reichel that's the one you like um uh they're always whatever the one that lit on fire
portuguese chicken exactly yeah you do that you do uh a good patine and you do like bonkeys yeah
you know what i mean i'd say you go down to the sea what about blackstrap you hit a blackstrap
what about all the good places at the old port like there's like five places you hit the lolos
and you hit barbie right and then you done it and then you can say no there's more than that
no you're done but you're pretty much good you're done anyway liam do you know what they had
legal seafoods remember oh yeah i do i do as opposed to what shark dick that's the name of a restaurant
by the way legal most americans i bet it's probably really well no do recall i want to i want to
touch on one thing if if you will uh if you will allow me one of the things that i bought while there
is that they have this old godzilla comic book series some marvel from 1977 that you're holding
in your hands right now and in the really interesting about these 70s comics there'll be ads
right in the middle of the comic they'll just break it up and sometimes you can see that there's
these little just one page panels to get over other superheroes in case you're not really aware
spider-man would you like me to read you this one page read us an excerpt yes woody would also
really like to know this because it's called spider-man and madame web oh and the original
version of madame web is sexy hot girl an orange leotard with red web patterned hair let's go
so city in panic web had accused of tangling the harbor in his web spider-man's here just
saying alone going everyone thinks i'm to blame i'm tired of running from the cops but i must get
through and save the harbor madame web says i love spider-man but he rejected me me madame web
so my revenge i'll make everyone blame him for tangling up the harbor spider-man my only love
come with me and let's run away spider-man swings down and says madame webbed that love
crazy fiend well spider-man says what if i give you a whole bunch of delicious hostess twinkies cakes
instead would you clear the harbor and my good name oh golden sponge cake cream filling spilling
out either end oh for that i'd clear up the ocean the world anything for you spoter man first i love
spider-man then hostess twinkies cakes what a tangled web you're coming with us madame webb says a
black cop as he stuffed his face with a hostess twinkie spider-man in the top corner waving
goodbye saying she is such a loyal admirer of me have a good time in jail cut to a bunch of children
going yay spider-man yay for twinkies cakes you get a big delight in every bite of hostess
twinkies cakes man and scene man i read a lot of comics from that era that my cousins had
and they do that shit all the time where it's a fucking legit going and they shove them in with a
brand and they get a one page comic of that shit i feel like you both over the course of the flight
like five or six different things i showed only an ad where there's just a son and and his father
shooting people uh with a gun or like every all the heroes lined up looking at something
and daredevil saying let me see
it says this straight up what they're looking at a giant magazine that stan lee's pimping out
i tweet a picture of this and mad murdoch's going let me see you can't see really it of all the
fucking heroes they could have picked this thorn was right there it's amazing man mad we're not we're
not as far from that as you might think in x-men apocalypse there may be the most blatant coca
cola brand shot i have ever seen uh don't tell me because i want to see it but it but like it's
not dude it is like hold on a moment it is like 15 seconds because we've lived we've lived through
so a transforming coca cola vid no it dude it's it's how long oh yeah well that is the most
i skipped that one it is a naked like the first one well then i just like you know you know
it was a mountain dew machine you know the flat square angle shot of somebody drinking a coke
in the brand yes it's that for like 10 full seconds with nothing okay followed by the phrase
welcome to the 80s yeah okay like it's it's so unless there's something else you want to add
about momocon we can go on we can go on x-men apocalypse is not very good
how bad is it on the scale i heard solid seven i think that a seven on ten is not very good
it is exactly a seven on ten there is a couple problems you know outclick silver had that cool
scene in the last movie they try to replicate would you like to replicate the exact same scene
exactly the same completely exactly the same and then get him out of the movie because he would
solve too many problems no they leave him in the movie and he just doesn't solve any of the problems
because problem but he could because he has to go talk to a character instead okay there is a
scenario in which everyone is fighting apocalypse and instead of fighting apocalypse he's i'm going
to go talk to somebody while everyone else is fighting apocalypse but like the biggest problem
with the movie has to do with like did you see any of the other x-men movies yes do you know anything
about apocalypse i do yeah i saw him at the end of that one i heard that he is not the rocks on
the eternal no he sure isn't but the big problem is you go into the movie you're like gee i wonder
how they're gonna get rid of apocalypse in this movie oh right yeah it's that it's the thing i knew
about before i even walked in that they're like it's it's like how did like i wouldn't even call it a
fucking spoiler there's two characters in this movie that can just deal with apocalypse one's the
cool way and one's the lame way and they go for the lame one even though they set up the cool
the problem is that my my major experience with apocalypse is when cable and bishop were fighting
it yeah and all they had were guns yeah and for me it's age of apocalypse the comics but also just
episode one yeah where of the x-men cartoon that's what i mean that's what i'm wrestling and the
writings not that great like there's a there's a point where a character falls unconscious and the line
go what's wrong with them are they dead no it's their energy they're completely drained and like
you couldn't just say they're exhausted and they passed out because it sounds so yeah but
the scene they're in it's really i i heard that the most of the movie is alright and then the last
act is like the worst well most of the movie is nothing that's the that's the biggest problem
that most of the movie is the setup for the final confrontation and when i say most of the movie i mean
like 90 minutes of the film are are just set up i caught in bummer because it's like fucking x-men
yeah so other thing is i caught a dude coming out of the not coming out of the theater but he's
walking through the cotton he's like hey well i'm like hey what's up he's like i just saw it
yeah i'm like hey break it down and he said i got to kill myself he said solid seven on ten and he
said better than uh first class but weaker than future he's crazy how can it be better than first
class but weaker than future paths like for me that doesn't line up yeah because first class
better than first class way ahead oh i like future past better than first class well this is
this is worse than not by much but all right same here uh and and the the movie's biggest flaw
is that it's so obsessed with the setup because like oh apocalypse is so invincible we can't
have anyone fight him that like they're there isn't even like a single like actual real knockdown
drag out fuck god damn it i know exactly what you mean no higher movie shit like that's the one
fucking thing i hate when it's like this guy is such an untouchable badass we're not even they're
not even gonna try and then we're gonna come up with the weak stupid way of dealing with the
situation we're trying to dramatize apocalypse in general you shouldn't even be able to be like
but it's not even that like there's the part where it's like hey we're gonna have the x-men
fight the angels right like that bit of like so you've seen it in straight like beast fighting
cylock or uh archangel and nightcrawler fighting like each of those gets maybe 120 seconds tops
and then they all end in draws and then of course they do and then they they all just kind of go away
when people start to fight apocalypse and it is the it is every think of every scene and every
superhero or magic or fantasy thing in which everyone is fighting sell you remember when
they were fighting all fighting sell it once everyone takes a crack at it yeah and then the
one guy does the one thing and they're like oh he hurts so he hurts a little bit and then that
other one guy does the other thing and now the problem that's the fight the fight with apocalypse
is the fight with sell where no one can do anything and everyone just uselessly does their stupid
shit at him like useless babies so and then then then the then the problems get solved and in the
blink of an eye so nice cool so not only is uh civil war a reference point for bvs yeah but it's
also a reference point for this with similar scenes where lots of heroes are fighting each
okay is it worse than x-men 3 no like people are allowed to lose that's a fight like it doesn't
matter if everyone wins that fight beast doesn't have to win beast shouldn't even be in the
fucking fight but that's what i'm saying like who cares if beast loses that fight as long as he doesn't
die yeah and and then well in civil war like ant man eats shit every day you see people go down
like nah you weren't good enough yeah it's it's like you get to an okay so there's gonna be some
minor spoilers here for the next go ahead three minutes this movie you you're aware of the phrase
ludonair dissonance that everybody uses to talk about uncharted this has it in a movie which i've
never felt it in a movie before because it doesn't yeah but it's the worst i've ever seen for anything
the events that take place in this thing involve the potential destruction of the earth yeah that's
fine that process gets like halfway started what you see like eight cities turn into dust
by the end of this movie but then someone changes their mind and has a change of heart
and then walks out of the ending going well we're old pals again and everyone just ignores
that person killed like a billion people oh wow like like someone in this roster i bet you can
guess who kills like a billion people on screen and when and when they and when they change their
mind and switch teams everyone's like well you finally found your way we're friends again
and they just never talk about it and it it is so unbelievable that's that i walked out of the
theater looking at everyone that i saw the movie was like is everyone just going to ignore the fact
that that guy just killed a billion people like a glaring i'm not exaggerating they show they show
sydney and every landmark in sydney being ground into cities a big city they show san francisco
and chicago and parts of new york and all the all these and and just just being ground into dirt
like en masse and cars with people in them you can see being lifted off into fucking hundreds of
feet in the air and falling down and like i get it like a redemptive moment but there's no redemptive
moment for killing like it's like creating a holocaust on that scale yeah okay i don't care
that you you you got over your your your pathos are fucking whatever here's here's a thing is i
i talked about this a bit before it's like hey man you like punishment not not i like
punisher like hitler becomes an x-men all is absolved fuck that is exactly what happens sorry
man i just i like punisher but i love spider-man and i love x-men yeah because i spent so much
on my youth with x-men and stuff and the thing with apocalypse is that apocalypse is so fucking
powerful and so stupid that he shouldn't even get his plan going yeah they should stop his plan
but you can't do that for a movie the plan has to get somewhere for the but the cartoon and most
comics most come not all the gauge of apocalypse you fucking won right it's it's called the raising
of the stakes raising of the stakes you can't like what you're describing can't happen and that
makes me interested just to see and guess and guess what apocalypse is properly overpowered in this
movie good like this dude he basically lets them win like like he shows off a power set in the early
movie that could kill every single person in the x-men universe in one second without any toughness
at all and basically and and sabonair man and then then like in the fights that he has with the
here like like jobbers like civilians that he just doesn't like will just turn into dust
instantaneously but mutants that are trying to murder him he'll like oh i'll bind you you're
i'll bind your feet so that you can't so girl i'll punch you so x-men weird mcgeddon it's it's
i i feel like they're so used to writing magneto and other characters of that ilk
that they take a character that's uber fucking powerful almost like superman levels and they're
like they wrote him based on what they just want him to do and not what he can actually do which
is win the movie and minute one the the other problem is it's continuing first class and uh
future pasts obsession with jennifer lorence well that's because he's cat by by pushing and
he has to have not anymore but yeah he is such a fucking minor character in everything every
cat every scene the jennifer lorence is in is written ass backwards in which she is the hero
she is the main character and i saw her she is i saw her doing the motivational speech like in like
in days of future past like i want to fucking die every time we get it mocking jay we get it
this is not that serious the other thing is that in the first three x-men movies she uh like natasha
uh whatever remains same as was just used as a crutch because her power was so useful in a movie
context yeah i could be anyone so that was always like that's cheap but whatever makes sense you're
making a movie a character that could be anyone is super useful and whatever and past that past
the three movies her like her importance should be lessened i heard that storm is actually quite
good in this storm is great that's cool because it's about fucking time storm is the other version
of that problem from the older movies though yeah the actor starts out doing the role yeah but but
that's what happens with the criminal line for most w reviews how the berry storm has been the
lisa simpson of the x-men oh my god where she's there but come on yeah no one's really quoting her
except for the one really bad quote from x-men one i miss sabertooth when sabertooth gonna come back
god he want he you owe him a scream i oh well i you know i mean it's it's a it's good that the new
trilogy is cyclops all right the old trilogy is cyclops all right in quality cyclops is fantastic
whoa cool i really i really like look as good as superman's what's that his i beams look like they
look a lot better actually but uh well here's the deal what they do with cyclops it's really simple
think about sexy thoughts to make his go off if if cyclops is like 16 years old all of a sudden
that he's a like a dumbass jock bro idiot meathead yeah okay fine interesting of course
okay but like and and he's not opposite wolverine yeah so automatically he's not his lame yeah did
you do anything else this week uh are you prepared to collect more birds overwatch and i'm prepared
to collect more birds next week sick but i mean you know yeah are you gonna have to print a new shirt
now yes okay yeah yes there will be a new bird that's an outdated shirt quite soon yeah i bought it
and it came in the mail and like within a week of me wearing it for the first time a new bird was
announced making the shirt worthless damn it there you go you should go see x-men because now
i'm more you know i want to go to talk to someone about that thing in the ending i'm curious about
that because like i love fucking apocalypse this stupid dude he doesn't have a big dumb a on his
bell buckle no i want to see i want to see i love apocalypse is big and he gets huge at one
point in the movie but it's a shitty cop out and it's not what you want damn it that sounds great
i want to see alivia munn stunt double yeah she's super cool yeah and did most of the work they cut
all the line the jubilee scenes out of that movie oh yeah i forgot that jubilee looks super cool in
this movie she has like six lines oh okay fuck and with that she should have been in dead pool and
not yeah totally but i would have rather jubilee but it worked out can we take a second to talk
about some comic book news that i'm sure you've all seen uh you mean captain america i mean captain
america do we really need to we address this on the panel but i guess not i i need to say my two
cents because we we did it we did already talk about this is why i don't read superhero comics
okay this this thing is the is the ultimate culmination just like death of superman is
of why i don't read superhero comics so so this is the worst thing ever so yes yes all right here's
the thing pat yeah congratulations you played yourself i played myself you read three pages
in an imager album no i didn't i will i saw a single panel i didn't even read the whole that's
even worse and and and and it was and it's issue one of this run that's happening this is the type
of thing that goes down that oftentimes almost always doesn't actually mean anything oh so it's
even worse it's meant to get the rise of it's not even worse you just need the whole context of the
series it's the giga gimmick of the to make you go oh like no woolly like in that snow the worst
part no no it's like girl Thor or i should say Thor Thor as she actually is it's the same thing
yes that's the worst the fuck is that i hate that but then you read the series and you're like wait
no that's not when you thought it was no no that's exactly what i'm talking about that's the worst
thing about superhero comics is that these stories have to go for so long that they have to just change
every element of the character and kill them for fucking flash and garbage in order to draw in eyeballs
yeah well i will say i will say that welcome to all media no not all media that like what when when
media she gets shared by multiple writers you're gonna see these kinds of yeah then don't do that
but what i can't say to anyone who is on the side of this is issue one are you saying this is the
first issue of captain america and this is issue one of a brand new series yes so it's in its own
continuity that's playing no it's 616 but it's also playing off of the last storyline that just
basically set up there's this place called like paradise hill and it's basically where the long
story short because we can go on but the cap that's there is an basically an altered reality cap
that's not gonna probably likely not gonna turn out to be the real cap in a way oh i'm so interested
same cap it's cap but like with his bat his past changed because of another person's powers
and we'll see where that goes from there because it's the starting issue and and the writer
is usually decent but we don't know where this is gonna go but don't get played by an
integer album out of context no i'm not getting played you just don't agree with the thing that i
hate to the listener to the listener don't get riled up so by the marvel there's a right like
no woolly hold on hold on hold on hold on one second i have it's very quick you hate the attention
grab which is a different thing there's a very about it this is very very quick ed brew breaker
who's the guy that basically created the winter soldier storyline hasn't hasn't uh uh uh wrote a
captain america story in a couple years now but he is like the captain america writer and lots of
people coming on him on twitter saying what the fuck why would you do this and he's like first of
all idiots i haven't written cap in a couple years it's not me you're yelling at the young
person second of all i know that writer he's very good maybe wait to see what he's gonna do
past issue one maybe wait to see when you watch a really good tv show and they have a stinger at
the end that makes you go oh shit either negative or positive whatever maybe wait until issue two
see what he does with it it might be worse it might be better it might still be at neutral
and me as myself i think it's hilarious i think it's funny to get all these funny things out of
that i was gonna say that oh no that's all things aside that's the dankest it's it's a net positive
dankest means the entire front page of the reddit because i was like i read the issue also and i
thought that was i did too like that's a pretty ballsy and like kind of badass reveal and i hope
they go the right way with it now my major thing which i think it sucks one way or another
is that by the end of whatever the storyline is it's either going to be you were hydra and that
sucks or you weren't and that's it this entire story is pointless yeah but in terms of and i do
agree that as an intention grabbing thing it's like yeah what else could you do that's crazy and weird
and we'll get that that'll grab some headlines well that certainly but again i really find it weird
to be and we were a little bit wrong like apparently all that dc unit you know like rebirth
stuff was actually was revealed to be a lot to be wrong about con that's when they're nonsense
especially when they're not even really out yet those are at the very start or whatever it is but
like you know lots of writers do stuff like this sometimes well now i'm the writer now i can do
whatever uh whatever i want and whether it's good or it's bad or it's neutral i i always find at the
end like the clone saga in spider-man was without a doubt terrible but there's storylines after it
that are good so at the end of the day this can like be looked at look down upon when it's finished
are they being good or bad or or whatever it was nothing at the end of the day don't knock
neil gayman's run on strong guy until you tried it okay this joke is so specific for us because
because pat and Liam do not know who strong guy is i don't even know who neil guy i only know
who neil gayman is don't know don't knock allen moore's wonder man run until you've actually sat
he was he was faking it for 70 years that being said like i think literally yeah saying literally
kill them all peter yes i'm actually glad someone did it after like we had talked about it it's
actually cool that way superman was a clone of adolf hitler the whole time here's what i'll say
reset the clock because six months from now where there's going to be another controversy that hits
the internet when a comic book decides to do something to do something interesting and you're
going to see it in an mger album and then everyone's going to go they're doing what and then we'll
reset the clock but you're still not wrong in that this is another attention grabbing let's kill
superman i can't believe how dismissive you are of it's more just it's more like i'm not getting
riled up seriously when you're saying it's the worst thing ever to happen to captain america no
that's not what you said what about when he turned into a werewolf for 12 issues and he was called
cap cap wolf who's who's where that's worse the outrage that account what cap you're gonna say that
it's awesome isn't it at least be consistent you're not gonna say he was actually a wolf the whole
time for 70 years maybe i don't remember he was a wolf as soon as the guy with the powers changed
his backstory and his past so that he became a there's way worse stuff let me let me tone it down
and try and get like be more reasonable and try to get my point actually across because i'm being
so like pissy that like it's not it's like when i see this panel all i can think of is not i want
to read it or i wonder what that's about the first thought that hits my brain is i wonder how long it
will take them to run this back or this is like just the this is going to get run back and it's
just a naked attention grab that actually will mean nothing in the long run and when the first
thing that i ever think about your story is how much it doesn't matter that story sucks and it's
terrible it's the soap opera issue when you have your long running infinite tail like just it is
the soap opera issue i can i can understand and like that's why i don't read like the like your
your your average like superhero comic or any really because like how could i ever ever get
invested in something where nothing matters at all ever it's that and how there's no finality
in others i mean we're running back at the discussion we've had multiple times but it's
it's that what matters is what's contained in those six issues that are done by this person
and it's not that the the closure is what the end of that so when you start that run do you just
pretend that captain america is a new character no no you just know i want to see from his origins
i really like steven king i would like to read steven king's run on whatever character not steven
king or whoever i want to see that interpretation if that's the one you like then that's the one
you hold to your heart and that's the one that then you say that you like if you don't like that one
then see this guy's interpretation of it if you like that character enough like say cap is kind of
bland and the other reason why i think this gets so blown out of proportion is that captain america
has literally in his entire life even during the height of world war two never been this popular
and with the advent of the internet you can't uh this is blown way amount of proportion then when
captain america was a disgusting lizard man for like a couple of months or a werewolf or a whatever
answer a bit of your question though like this it's very similar to watching a tv show where
things go back to the status quo episode of the simpsons you don't really think about their full
backstory every episode you just think about the fact that they're a family or scrubs or something
or they're working at a hospital you know the default state and so you open up the new run
with the default state of this is the character's backstory and how he came to be a hero and then
you just go kind of go from there you know like and then at the end of the run that's where you
just go all right no that was a story if you really like dardo simpsons is actually a really apt
yeah comparison i think i think it's a terrible one because the simpsons isn't a narrative based
television show it's a comedy but they reference things that happened in the past and sure but
you're not watching simpsons for like ripping air snowball dead forever is snowball dead to
is snowball two dead forever yeah totally that's sure or in future rama you'll have new characters
show up and become part of the cast but they're part of the default that that state at that point
it's like if you like dardo the really like the the the moveset of matt murdoch like let's let's
say he's a fighting game character do you want to see him in a gritty like cinematic universe
then watch the show do you would you rather be him be in a go lucky fun guy that doesn't have that
many problems in his life read this guy's particular run if you want him to be really gritty and on
over the top then read frank miller because that's all you'll get from frank so it's just one of those
things where it just depends on what you feel and you and you know like i will always champion
things like gravity falls where there's a start beginning and an end for sure that's the best
type of medium okay it's the best type of package for a gift for a story but there's still good stories
that don't have let me let me let me change the the the scope of this then like and maybe this is
my core misunderstanding like how many different rewrites of fan fiction can you read about the
same character before getting bored what's it's not i mean it's it's no longer fan fiction you know
what i mean as long as it's not the creator it absolutely i'll tell you what if i was by
monthly's of like a given character for like years and years and years i'd get so that's like
saying final fantasy sevens fan fiction like what the hell i'd have to because it's not the original
writer of final fantasy it's true they're all completely separate self-contained stories with
no continuity nonetheless like there's no nonetheless that's like that okay well it's like saying
to city is fan fiction it is it's not canon it is you said it was canon fiction oh you're you mean
spiritually unlike related to the first writer but it's not saying crisis core is fan fiction
and more or less is but it's not anyway this is this is that you're anyway that point it doesn't
matter because the the gist of what you're saying though about the whole thing about getting bored
i'd say that does apply and i would say that i personally that if you're getting bored what's
less boring than steve rogers going hell hydra yeah i personally would say that like i can
enjoy things by diving into something interesting occasionally as opposed to following every issue
you know like if i was out trying to buy every every book every x-men book every single month
or whatever the case it reminds me when i when i when i look some people do that and those guys
reminds me and i looked up like civil god bless the original civil war in in regards to the movie and
i was just like because i didn't know how the distribution worked right because i don't buy
comics and i looked up and it was like okay well civil war is happening in these 18 or 19 yeah okay
okay perfect yeah that's a good okay and i'm looking at this and like how the fuck am i supposed
to follow the story of civil war yeah so i'll tell you exactly what i did because i was buying those
as they came out right that seems like they're a new crazy when it happened when civil war was
happening i went to the comic shop and bought my singles and it was very simple you'd walk over
to the row and you'd see all the civil war comics have a very distinct cover where okay they're actually
denoted denoted exactly it has a it has the half of it is white and then the top half is the picture
and then civil war in the white frame on beneath it and then you'll see like this is another character
another specific um um side story that's taking place during this timeline like and so therefore
it'll it'll have that same graphic design style to indicate that it's happening in this timeline
and and things that our reference tier might show up in the main line are you interested in what the
punisher was doing in civil war well here's just one issue of what the punisher was doing if you
don't care about it you don't need to read it but it was just an interesting side story so i saw
side quest i saw all of those with that same half and half cover and i just picked up the
ones that said civil war one two three four five six okay and that was enough for me and i think
you didn't go for the full fucking spread because that seemed like complete i didn't need it and
same thing with planet hulk it was like i you don't need that was a similar thing if there's a big
lead up to planet hulk and then there's the big finale out in world war hulk but there's so much
side shit that you don't need but it's like just read the main one and you're good enough from there
okay so here that's okay well see i i admit that i'm unreasonable i get too upset about this but
like now you feel like you're missing details no now we're into the real reason why this drives me
crazy i can't deal with a story like that you can't just you can't just ignore those things no you
need the whole continuous proper complete story right but like the other story is on the other
that's why they're so good for people who are into that because you get such a breath of stuff
you know it's it's the two sides of the same coin i can definitely say that that would be a unique
problem to uh you and that you could go forever just going on those little boxes that say see issue
blank for backstory what the sky's talking about absolutely you can change that i i like legitimately
cannot go to tv tropes i can't do it because if i do like you know the wikipedia problem
like oh boy wiki death yeah i need to know uh we haven't started the news okay what's new
what's news let's try to do it in a reasonable time frame and give it all justice ibuki's cool
she looks great really never gonna play her i'm really happy with the design compromise totally
yeah it's great kind of an interesting design definitely let's go with her student and it makes
sense because i'll keep her being a ninja to being a ninja in third strike and but now she's still
a student yeah it makes perfect sense uh a bit shitty that she's not hitting in may that she's
coming with the july story update uh oh that was that was just confirmed uh wait shot in may
or like then who's coming on june her with the story update because you said July oh did i
pardon me pardon me and it got a lot more dire coming out with the story update it's unclear
if someone else will also come out i put on her because it's they're they they're supposed to
someone because it was a combo breaker that somebody forgot to remove the scheduling off
use they said one a month and it was supposed to be a character well not just the end of the
month not just the video they they put out charts they put out a bunch of stuff but then is a second
character coming out unclear that's weird yeah that means they're falling behind in that case
so as far as the what the trailer shows us um the limited kunai but you can spend it all at one
stuff is interesting that's a little bit of benchy bank shishigami going on there it would be strong
too if you could like you can reliably confirm into that kind of thing yeah that's not the real
scary shit though the real scary shit is her float that air dash cross up and the bomb yeah
because right away the bomb just like nadeshko or um syrax yeah right yeah it's a lot of syrax
compresses and you look at that and it's just like okay block string into bomb dash through the guy
what side is the on bomb blows up take your free reset i i believe this is you only you only get
like one though because it's your tree trigger that's why i said like nadeshko but it's so good
i believe this is called shenanigans she i'm calling her a trap queen yeah she's back
and it seems like vortex ain't gonna work anymore because we've got quick cook ups yeah
but fuck it no that type of shaking they gave her standing vortex and and her and she's got a
a chun li style dash diagonal above your head for crossing and she does naruto moves with a float
to mix it up when she needs to so likes naruto yo he's got options he's got tons of options um yeah
super looks amazing her her her her like palm fist grab thing is just turning more and more
into a resengan yeah that's clear every day uh so right on with that i can break the ball now
so sorry i'm jumping ahead but since it's still on a fighting game related thing i have i have the
docket okay but fatal fury yeah yeah okay just make sure yes we're there we're going through it
we're going through it so second was the gargoyle trailer that we i mean we talked a little about
gargoyle earlier so there was a trailer for gargoyle but but uh the trailer is not the trailer is
one of the weaker ones i thought it's one of the weak ones not sure because there's so much to
show off of gargoyle that they didn't have time to put it in or they just didn't show it i found his
song didn't have as much impact as i find very few of the season three songs have as much yeah
the riff in gargoyle's thing which is already an omen's theme omen's theme has gargoyle's
guitar rift in it and that's fucking incredible but until i hear like the actual music which i
haven't been able to like play like yeah it's not as impactful his wind pose is boss it is a godlike
wind pose it is fucking boss pretty good i liked i thought i felt that the best wind pose in the
game was spinels but that fucking takes it yeah full gore is pretty close behind too yeah uh then
we have the team fiddle fury trailer for the king of fighters yes and it definitely uh it shows off
the new stage and this this is in time with the 36 character build uh was just dropped so we got to
see some of the new ultras or whatever the super desperation moves terry's is the fucking coolest
like i love it i love uh uh uh joes as well why does andy still look like shit like compared to joe
and terry their models are just better andy has not improved since we made i think he looks slightly
worse andy has less uh accessories and things on him that make him a character so he's like long
hairedman i feel like it's so you just kind of see the the model for what it is raw and naked i feel
like the front of his hair is really one of the problems like it looks really poor it's not like
a six or seven head like yeah he looks like otherwise looks good the terry's desperation
move is like the best coolest angle i've ever seen on anything terry's ever done yeah totally
the shot got me hyped actually the shot in the trailer too of like the the background in the
beginning looked good and i felt like when i pan down to the four not the foreground but the closer
this the of people standing in the background got the more i was like oh no just show us that
background with no one there it looks like a real it's a real bout stage it definitely does it looks
like big bear stage in real about either real bout or big bear stage some of the trucks are so
there there's that uh and then we have another fighting game uh related trailer and this one's
from digital uh from devolver we have their new game absolver uh by slow clap a para studio and this
looks like a fighting game but the person the camera on it is uh kind of like where hellblades
camera is i was gonna say i didn't make it online this was a big online multiplayer it's an online
combat game i saw online fighting game quite a bit it seems like there's there's definitely a
lot of customization going on with your character but you're going to build your character up i see
you guys like like like like stabbling through your phones to get to it but what it is yeah i saw
it before i just want to yeah so you you create your it seems like you create your character
customize their looks and their moveset and then take them online i'm not sure if you agree but
the way i think this looks like it looks like it plays like strength of the sword ultimate where
you basically run from fight to fight and you have a little bit of free reign to go to the next
area that's what i get from it the pacing of the side steps and some of the kicks and attacks
and movements back and forth is also reminiscent of uh chivalry so it's like i was gonna say i thought
some of the animations in the trailer did you just say chivalry in terms of chivalry medieval
combat i did if i had dog ears they'd be perking up right now i did say that so we'll see where this
goes only we'll see where that well we don't know can i hit a button in the trailer and have a guy
just choose your combat pick your weapon yeah so yeah can i hit a button and have some guys scream
his ass to death about agatha possibly it's possible i hope not i really like the look of the
characters yeah i was gonna say is like it looks like like i don't know like red steel two or
wack food or something like that i like the idea of devolver having a lineup of games that are like
ruiner absorber and so on and so forth yeah devolver all stars yeah get backers by devolvers
yeah so that's that's uh that's what's going on way out of nowhere it looks like the most high
budget maybe aside from shadow warrior game that that devolver has um yeah uh and and again i love
the name slow clap studios yeah slow clap studio is a good name um we have got the follow-up to last
week's story in that uh now blizzard's basically trying to crack down on the overwatch porn
fuck that
i thought the usa was free boycott blizzcon i will now the one
the one thing i can't say here that like like makes it make sense is no only going after the
people that ripped models but those are the best videos they're not they're not going after the
hand-drawn art so it seems like they're they really don't want people to google and then just
have some kids see some shit and go why would they render that um i find it really weird that
they're going after this stuff for overwatch and they never did for any of their other properties
i think and i think this is because it's the most because they hit critical mass yeah and it is
definitely 100 percent you that you can google any character from overwatch in the first result
and if you're safe so safe search filters off you're gonna see i have i have had maybe six people
bring this story up to me what since it happened going here what do you think of this and every
single time i just said the same thing and that's good luck yeah it's not gonna walk in you can
good luck remember when ken levin asked people not to make porn of elizabeth yeah and then people
how i mean so well yeah and i i started a few yeah i was the voice actor i really do think
they're just they're just trying to get their image search just just bad form all around well it
doesn't even matter because it never works and make it legit you know like free free i understand
what you're trying to do but you ain't gonna do it you ain't gonna do it in fact you fighting
against it only makes it stronger yeah it gains bigger yeah it's kind of sad really kind of sad
how sad oh wow this is a oh oh sad as an anime fan i love how the ceo of indy creates comes out
that's the doc and is just like what the the docket isn't the trailer who can the trailer
the docket is the fact that the worst thing about that guy called is like unforgivable it's like the
gameplay is fine yeah but then they make it look bad but yeah but the actual con like the voice over
it goes from passable when he's explaining mechanics to like what the fuck are you i
refer to it as bone eater cringe where it goes past your bone level to the core of your marrow
the worst bit is the last trailer was in the same kind of style yeah but it didn't blow up because
it wasn't as overt and they just went further with my favorite my favorite thing is i watched this with
a friend of mine no no i showed this to you first it was like you know i have well you said i haven't
seen the trailer yet i'm like you need to watch this trailer oh god yeah i showed it i showed
something okay sure but you looked at it and you literally made a couple of noises like
um let's just record our video for the day but isn't like like cry like an anime fan on prom night
is the line right yeah isn't there an anime of this coming out something no it's a some cartoon isn't
aren't they trying to get anime fans in thank god you know actually thank jesus christ the lord
and savior for brennan williams the great black attack yeah for tweeting out don't worry anime fans
i'll take you all to prom oh that's a that's a i was glad this trailer exists just for that that's
the bit of the trailer that like kind of confuses me the most because like i think the trailer is
bad don't get me wrong i think the trailer is absolutely bad but you sure because you know the
trailer is bad the trailer is bad but like it's a launch that joke is solid and if we would have
if we would have made that joke independently of this people would it would have been a good
i think it's a solid joke and another property not this one yeah in a different context but that
i'm just surprised so many people are like really like like fake offended by it you know but isn't
there an actual anime for this thing coming out it's a cartoon but is there is there much of a
difference i mean that's not japanese which you know it's not japanese isn't red ash getting one
i don't know something is getting so i thought what i'm just saying like i thought it was actually
a solid joke the trailer was fucking awful but i thought that was a good gag like i just i didn't
think it was funny i don't know but i think i think and again and again i'll stand by if if this
trailer didn't exist and we had made that joke i think we all think that was a good joke that
joke in that context i don't think but we wouldn't have said anime fan no no you know what i mean
i don't think i would have said blaze blue as we talk about joke exactly we would have been even
better i don't like weebs or something i don't think that joke would have been made in regards to
like a property that people were like already furious that it hadn't come out yet and were like
there are people there are people that like back to this with money and are in some form of annoyance
or like yeah mild anger that then feel like the game just spat on them and i would not begrudge them
for being so no i'm just saying i think that that was a solid gag like i know a lot of people don't
i think the trailer was awful i'm not saying the trailer was good the first thing about the
gag i think the gag in its context is god awful yeah the first thing that said no absolutely i got
to the airport and like i brought it out and like that was like it's like the trailer was made
just in case there were any stragglers that didn't hate the game already they had to really just get
you all on over i have like two little points is that maybe aside from just a bit of the
sidescrolling action when they're like you can dash all over your dick dash dash dash when it shows
those explosions the game looks like the shittiest piece of crap it looks bad when it has those shots
of those explosions where the camera is turning and everyone's just taking random textures of pizza
and putting it over and there's very discernible difference i'm like why would you choose those
shots like it makes the game look bad those shots about how apparently there's still like 13,000
people that haven't picked a console for i haven't yeah the console select so they extended a little
bit or whatnot oh i have multiple emails that originally needed respect my last point sorry
really quickly willy is that like the captain america of fucking hell hydra thing is amazing
because now he says i pre-ordered mighty number nine in lieu of hell hydra which i laugh my ass off
when i saw so that that inti creates ceo going urus and i in his tweet yeah that part was amazing
is like like i because that just i'm like that's amazing and it's just like i feel it in the pit
of my gut that it's like this game it just can't get out the door without more controversy yeah
so at this point something more pile more on it's got to be like the unluckiest game that has
come to completion of video games that's a really good like distinction in the history of video games
more unlucky but they never got finished ever actually got to the out the door like aside from
everything i'm sure it inti creates or whoever would not have okayed this trailer if they had
a say in it because clearly they were unhappy with it and clearly this was uploaded to deep
silvers youtube like that's where it originated from and like clearly someone over there just
didn't get the memo that maybe you shouldn't do this maybe just maybe not do it like this
maybe maybe we're past 1999 style commercials for this type of shit and this i feel like that's
what they thought this was awesome type of voice and shit doesn't work who thinks that's cool who
looks at the product with that voice over and it's sold on that yeah and even when it was at the
height of its stupid popularity it was still kind of stupid it was still lame then like that works
for strafe it feels like they got out like oh they like not if you're being ironic it works no it
feels like they like like like not paul marketing but like granddad marketing and they're like all
right sell this product yeah you know and he's like oh we'll do it the way we did in my day boys
you know get out the toad no it's it's just perplexing urban dictionary for the latest lingo
i literally ignore it and then use lingo from 1996 are you ready to get turnt it doesn't make any
fucking sense how how they thought this trailer was adequate it's just fucking ridiculous so there's
i really like that point this game cannot get a break in terms all right oh it can't but the
combo keeps going because lockout you couldn't break it mega man animated series announced
and now there's more details i'm looking at this mighty number nine survey like desperate thing in
my email there's no link to the real survey oh you might have to check the one that came before
yeah you might have to roll back one i think it's actually just directing you to the previous one
because a lot of people didn't put their thing in okay okay so so so all we saw prior to this was
the announcement that there's going to be a mega man animated series and then that little piece of
weird art right and then that got photoshopped to high at hell and high water so that's all fine
and dandy but then we got the descriptions of what's going to be happening in the story uh being
put together by densu entertainment and we know that it's going to be focusing on acky light a
regular everyday kid who happens to be a schoolboy robot kind of reminds me of the on comics and
they're in their approach to things however there's a tiny robot we do have confirmation that new
characters like mega mini will make their debut lives inside mega man mega mini is a little
mega mini mega man that lives inside his head and uh is going to be influencing his decisions and
he'll be it's his little buddy in his head oh and rush is also i have no problem i have no problem
with a little support character but you can make that cooler than zero cool and upon closer inspection
because you clearly didn't look last time everyone saw the art right you saw this art pat right you
saw the weird mega man art he looks a little weird but what you didn't do was zoom in on his head
because you didn't catch that mega mega mini right there coming out of his front light thing
it looks stupid there's mega mini looks really stupid so that's the animated mega mass series
are they putting this out just to make mighty number lot nine look even dumber now no it's just
like hey it should make it look better no because it's like hey nerds you were stupid forever caring
about mega man life and the worst part to me is there's if they just use the normal everyday
boring mega man art there's no reason to change him no one would have had anything to say but yeah
all right let's see it happen god damn decide it's been it's the same shit we've seen for 25 30
years now literally 30th anniversary anyway you know what have an intro with that mega man have
like the little intro like the little minute 30 intro show all the new characters just cut to footage
of x4 cut scenes that's the actual show i'll watch it uh okay and then that's did you cash out your
damage or is there more combos well we we we've we've reset so like we we broke it out of the
combo and you did a backflip and we're starting a new one because there's more adaptations okay
sure so the next adaptation we're going into is mirror's edge because everyone demanded it
we're getting a live action mirror's edge show and i don't know what to think or feel because parkour
is cool but i feel like the story has like not enough thin of a story should have been sketch
comedy to support all this way should have been a short film yeah embers should have been embers
straight to dvd it and you're fine i thought ea was done with this like let's make tv shows
and comic books and movies out of our things literally like yeah but quantum break just happened
no but all right all right we're not done combo continues we've got confirmation of live
action jojo rumored yeah yeah yeah rumored i must say other than don't do this this is a terrible
idea i can't wait for the pig licking your ass scene all right do this this needs to happen
read my favorite thing about non-hollywood adaptations of stuff is they're super easy
to forget about and ignore oh that's my favorite thing about them when they're amazing never but
is this you'll never forget about them you're right it's but when they're terrible you'll never
remember it's never happened this will make for a couple funny animated guests that you see in like
11 years yeah what the fuck is that it's like oh it was that live action jojo is this rumor even
based on a hollywood adaptation it's not hollywood japan oh okay there you go you know like did you see
the cutie honey live action i did okay well yeah he probably would have actually i would have i love
cutie honey did you see the gacha man live action i did not that's not really either of those things
happened doesn't cutie honey is a real that that was not happening she's a cutie and a honey uh and
then finally together at last then we've got the confirmation our this is confirmed not a rumor
that the full metal alchemist live action film is in the works for 2017 continuing on an email
is that hollywood or is that as japan as japan so you're so right in that it's so easy to forget
about just plow past so if you want to send us an email that's a super best friend we're not done
yet oh okay because like you said continuing on to like the last one we're not done yet okay last
bad news so you want to you want to talk a little bit about the fact everyone's like oh thank god it's
this made with japanese actors even though that's also wrong because alphonse and edward l rick are
the most european motherfucker arian looking they are that literally finish off the not brotherhood
version tell that the fucking attack on titan with amongst the nazis they are literally hang out with
nazis they are literally arian germans yeah like yeah like again the attack on titan movie
like yeah if they were if they were a caucasian actors i'd also be like this also feels weird
which is another reason why you should not do this maybe you should just not do this maybe
that's a better idea i don't even know if but japan wouldn't make a japanese movie with not japanese
actors in it as the main because that's stupid that's weird even if they're not supposed to be
the exact same thing it's like an interesting role i've actually said it's stupid just stick to your
anime is japan do what you're good at find english speaking i'm in japanese speaking like western
kids and fucking do it oh yeah all 12 well they'll get the job they won't lose oh no scottie
what if you are the drowning now scottie with the baby rain oh god yeah yeah oh no jsonny is dead
we've got the pulse that uh no man's second no man's sky has been delayed shocking and that
death threats were made did you see the no man's sky subreddit dude the top thread was like the
vilest oh no will he give me your thing about this what is the point of no man's sky it's the most
peaceful story about doing exploring and discovering things in a nice way where you
barely have to fight it all the the top thread fucking kill that guy the top thread on the subreddit
is delay debacle and what we do from here oh wow it's a month and a half delay how about you sit
on your ass and play another great game there there are people so i don't know if you know but uh
jason schreyer i believe was the one who originally leaked that this game was getting delayed right
there are people on the subreddit and on the internet who are convinced that because jason
schreyer leaked it they panicked and delayed the game oh god this yeah that doesn't make any sense
that journalists manufactured it there's the other one where there were uh there were game stops
getting uh like dates uh that were like two days after the release date yeah and there are people
saying oh well the delay was the delay that jason schreyer heard about was meant to be two days
but because of the leak they panicked and pushed it back an extra month it's not a real thing that
happened anyway i think that the whole death threat that against it's like if i just say
fuck you i hate you for delaying this i want to play it now that's not going to get attention no
so you got to do no the internet's been i'm gonna find you or whatever because that's what people
post um they're posts on the playstation blog that are like where do i cancel my pre-order and it's
like it's dude it's a month and a half a month and a half and like let's not forget this is a this is
a game that is being made at a studio that had there in people or no that's not where i'm going
with it but yes it's a relatively small team but like remember early in development of this game
like their entire studio just completely flooded and was totally destroyed some stuff like you know
what you get a guilt-free entire year to delay the game after something like that you know like
guilt-free you should for this game that when it comes out you'll be playing for months if not
the rest of the year for the rest of your life in theoretical infinity because of the size and
scale of the fucking thing i'll admit that when some games get heavy delays like a year that's tough
for anybody like scale bound was a bummer that was that was a big delay certain zelda games what
have you didn't kind of already get super delayed as well yeah but no really cared yeah that's okay
it's like pushed to august from February we all play it when it's on we stopped getting
bummed by delays because a lot of shit came out there's too much stuff but also like guess what
the game's gonna be better for it i can but and a month or half is like most like not worse for sure
a month and a half is most likely pre-cert issues or maybe a little bit of balance it's a mission
it's not that much server stuff but like when it's a year or more like i get it i get it like if
it's a really you know project lots of people have their eyes on but like a month and a half really
really and lastly we've got the um this is a really good catch uh by a neogaf uh browser
poster that caught that on the officially through website under there's the categories that you can
search for and one of them is xbox one virtual reality yeah and there were four companies listed
under that all right so this folds in all that scorpio shit and it's basically the idea being
the code name for the next xbox yeah the idea is that they're they're going actually like kind of
crazy on the power end of this thing why not because it'll incorporate rift support so the
four companies i i just want to point out on on e3 company registrants in the past this isn't
something that got brought up in the thread because i don't think a lot of people cared about it for
the vita but for the vita at e3 for multiple years in a row there were companies that registered
like rebellion who never made any software for the machine okay so it doesn't actually
it yeah well it could not mean it could mean something okay definitely it definitely could
mean something it means when you combine it with other it doesn't mean that all four of these are
guaranteed a lock it means they're taking a look and then that'd be inside it could mean nothing
because the rebel like rebellion on vita is a good example because it was like two years in already
we better have a product ready in case this thing is a thing we don't know if it's things
so let's just kind of let's just maybe put our name on it anyway as far as the thought exercise
goes yeah go on totally you've got maximum games so they made farming simulator and the tons of
multi-plat stuff big huge players you've got rebellion they made battle zone oh oh look it's
rebellion it's not really yeah i love that you went and use that example so many times and that's
one of the fucking names little it's like they are they are doing i love it i love it
there's a new company that's like readily and like it that from what people looked into it just
seems to be like a bunch of 3d modelers that okay so that's no game yet yeah nothing necessarily there
and um what was the other one 3d rudder uh being uh by basically this the foot controller
that lets you play vr while sitting down and lean your little foot thing in all directions to
control where you're walking and stuff those guys are involved as well so we will see if this means
anything yeah or nothing but it's a good catch definitely yeah no for sure um i don't know i
obviously they've had the talks because all oculus rifts are bundled with an xbox one pad
so obviously microsoft's and oculus are you know comfortable enough with each other to do that
i would not be surprised if if xbox one not even like a revision like like the rumored scorpio and
stuff but xbox one baseline i wouldn't be surprised if it's supported vr my only takeaway is that
whatever you come out with it better be called the scorpio because that name the code names are
never as cool as when they actually come out and you can you can use the um the the sign for it too
and everything yeah you can have a little like scorpion tail if you want as well what are we
razor yeah like seriously i want dumb sports logos and names the razor hydra well honestly at this
that's a product the way this podcast is going it might as well be produced by razor yeah
yeah uh if you have got presented by razor you've got a cool uh production name for your
console you can send it razor should just sell fedoras with green leds online like the super
best friend green sunglasses at gmail.com that's super best friend cast at gmail.com says the
the best friend zaibatsu yeah um i want to tip my samurai hat to you yeah and uh my black with
green led samurai hat that's right so you say that but well he's thinking about how cool
the fan art started yeah i'm sure yeah i saw one yeah she was on point that was good um okay and
actually your plan's working perfectly how much do i owe you for that i like what i i like i like
when i trip over into something that's perfectly coordinated me yeah um all right actually i want
to applaud uh what i think are a good series of questions this week cool compared hey everyone
who had questions before this week you saw is what woolly said that's correct yeah we'd be the first
time we say that um mr vasquez says how do you feel about companies businesses or developers
and so on repeatedly using kickstarter as their primary source of funding can you think of a
situation where it's not appropriate to come back to kickstarter after you've succeeded um no i think
it's a perfectly valid thing to do because if you're in a situation where your game didn't make enough
money to make another game and you don't want to give ownership of your uh ip to a company you
don't want to land in an unfavorable deal i think it's absolutely valid to go back to kickstarter
and if you don't support that don't pay for it so and if enough people agree with you they won't
back it but i think it's totally valid because you can land in that ugly mire where you make a good
kickstarter game but it might not take off and then you suddenly are back where you were because you
you basically took say say you got 10 000 sales worth of kickstarter money yeah you just spent
10 000 sales so worth of kickstarter money your game on the other side is gonna potentially not sell
those 10 000 and have to work around what you can sell from the remainder of of viable fans you know
i think the ideal uh route for a lot of companies or what they're what people would hope for is that
you use the kickstarter to get off the ground and then from then on you'll be able to well that's
the ideal well i if you can get a good deal ideally yeah but like also but ultimately like
i think it's valid to to just want to do that to want to have 100 ownership so i think it's valid
but they shouldn't be surprised if and when there is backlash definitely any blowback should be
expected yeah but if you decide to go that route you have to that's a risky route for your studio
if you have permanent employees you know what i mean like like you're trying to get your dated
dear daily bread off of this yeah and you're relying on the card funding solution it's risky
mighty number nine i think like or uh our bloodstain or ukulele come out and let's say there's some
type of buzz or a general idea that it was quite successful in some shapewear form like let's say
some metrics were just released like we sold you know like you know three million copies that's
pretty good from any sort of like the budget especially when kickstarter one if you then go
back to kickstart for a sequel ukulele two blood or stained gut stain what have you yeah then like
people need to start asking questions well we thought it was successful well it saw some of your
your your pie chart about what your costs were and then you can start asking questions from there
on it kind of goes both ways too because it you know if say bloodstain right it raised
five point whatever million dollars right like they do have to sell a good amount of units to make
back five point something million i think they'll do it no problem but like a big chunk of that's
going to go to deep silver as well and so for them to be able to independently do that it might
be tricky and i think double finds the best example where we're in the double fine in the um in the
documentary the documentary um justin bailey specifically says who's the who's the financial
coo at the time he said um that broken age was to be a big part of double finds future finances
and it it didn't end up being and so i think you know for stuff like massive chalice they
they you know may not have had a choice and you know for psychonauts as well it might have come
down to like splitting the brand with someone else totally so i think they should cancel all of those
and just put all the money into gang beasts so uh the two examples that i usually use and
actually fit particularly well for this example is the harebrained schemes making the shadow run
games and obsidian making pillars of eternity shadow run came out was good but it wasn't great
dragonfall came out and was fantastic and then they said well we can totally pay for another
shadow run game we're gonna make one with hong kong but we're gonna do an all stretch goal
kickstarter right we have the money to pay for it we totally own it and this kickstarter and this
game is going to come out period but it is only for stretch goals and that game got a
shit ton of stretch goals as a result um for pillars of eternity uh that was like very famously
like obsidian was about to go under they just had a round of layoffs and if that kickstarter went
poorly they were done yeah and it did it was a massive success and the game literally turned
their company yeah and the game's great and uh it the steam spy data says that it sold pretty well
not earth shattering but it sold fine and there they then announced their next rp g was going to
be tyranny which is uh going to be under the umbrella of the paradox interactive publishing deal
but for pillars they were really really adamant that they did not want a publisher to own that ip
and because like the the Bethesda deal and all that shit that fell through is what
fucked them in the first place yeah and not having their own ips to fall back on and then when asked
about pillars of eternity to uh fergus i believe fergus urkhardt yeah at a recent panel was like
oh pillars of attorney two is totally happening of course it's happening what are you what are you
kidding me we're probably gonna go back to kickstarter and i bet it will be a situation like the
shadow run one where it's like listen we can totally bankroll the game and the game like pillars
of eternity will come out you guys want to but it's more about you guys want to stretch goal this
into infinite and do you want to make sure that we keep the that brand for us forever so that
if you know paradox seems nice they seem to have a good working relationship but i bet paradox
owns the tyranny ip for sure and i don't blame them at all i think that's totally reasonable
for your business now there's people that are gonna be saying like well i don't need to do that
well it's like well then don't and just either don't back at her or just buy the game when it comes
out but it but it has to you know i mean if it if it isn't the kickstarter if it isn't the stretch
goals it was the full game like fuck that that was a huge massive like one of the but i don't know
like successes ever but put yourself as a yeah but that that brought them from broke to on their
feet okay like like put yourself in his put yourself in his situation where a publisher
doesn't want to back you because you're unreliable for a seller which you absolutely are and you
don't have money and your employees are gone so you have to kickstart it's not your first choice
evidently it wasn't you look at the documentary that was their like hail mirror very well documented
it was their last choice so they do the first kickstarter great they make a bunch of money but
you know they sell to pay their employees yeah and the money is like keeping the lights on and at
the end of the day they're back in more or less the same situation with a bit more security with
some security for six months to a year but like who are you to say that they're not allowed to do
kickstarter again because it doesn't feel right you know like they're they're people too and they
now there are a solution that might not necessarily be going to Bethesda and asking hey don't fuck us
this time please don't fuck us again now that being said the question is like are there situations
in which this could be uh not appropriate and absolutely yeah like red ash i think that everyone
is on the agreement that red ash was like the worst timing absolutely like what are you doing yeah
what do you fucking do are you crazy oh totally and say say a game gets so big that it's like
minecraft big and then they go to kickstarter like shut up yeah like like if like if tomorrow we get on
and blizzards kickstarting again right yeah that shut shut the fuck up another one i mean they're
allowed i'm not gonna say they're not allowed i won't break it another one like you can clearly
tell the difference like if way forward goes on kickstarter a kickstarter for shovel night too
and it looks exactly like shovel night there's new bosses you sold over a million copies your
your your budget last time was this but if a shovel night two or a super shovel night or a
shovel night 64 comes out and it's like a gorgeous 3d platformer okay i can definitely see we know
yaw club there's six people i can see where that money makes sense it's a it's basically breaks down
to a sliding scale of poverty and acceptability on one end right and richness and unacceptability
on the other end and there's a there's a middle ground and i think the middle ground is maybe
at the 40 percent mark at which point it starts to become like a little like ah come on and in the
80 90 percent range everyone just goes you need to get out of here i i definitely think there's
ones that feel more inappropriate than others like red ash was jumping ridiculous beyond jumping
the shark like we took a shark and i'm glad that game is funded and i'm looking forward to playing
it whenever it comes out disaster scan but that was a really wrong order of events and i think
it's very crude to have a blanket statement of you can't come back or you shouldn't come back
uh mr vazquez i mean i think the ultimate answer to your question really good question is that
that's a question i think the ultimate answer though is uh when it when it's inappropriate
you'll find out in about 30 days whatever feels right in your heart yeah you gotta you gotta point
possibly 60 possibly 14 depending uh micho's asking if uh okay so hey super wrong friends
i saw your silverware discussion and i've been trying to think of protagonists or situation
movies or things like that where the main protagonist is just absolutely wrong
do you have a good example and you can ignore god of war because fuck kratos
i agree about tony stark right memento memento is the first thing that came to mind for me
the protagonist is just in the wrong he's the bad he's the bad you're in the wrong uh the second
thing that came to mind was dead space extraction yeah you are just wrong and there's nothing else
to say about it what do you mean dead space extraction you play multiple characters in that game uh
the main first one no you like each chapter is a different character so i don't know what
okay i guess i'm thinking of them the first chapter the first chapter yes
you are wrong i'm wrong to do anything yeah i'm thinking of i'm thinking of the first chapter
you are mistaken in that character in that character's arc um then and yeah but but yeah
memento's a really strong one uh ff tactics advance the main character was super right oh you
i will fight you to the villain super wrong i will fight you you son of a bitch that's i i really
like marsh is a psychopath i i really like their conflict i think it's really i think the fact that
people are still having this argument all these years later is totally fascinating are you familiar
with that conflict holy i didn't i didn't beat tactics so in tactics i played it but i stopped
you don't need to advance you go into the magic fantasy world of evil east right yeah and your
friend who is wheelchair bound in real life becomes the fucking like prince or king of evil
it's oh and you rip him back into the real world and marsh is like no we have to go back to the
real world yeah yeah yeah yeah i remember this everyone's response is no we don't why and like
it's it's it's you know it's a good it's a really good conflict in every in every story like gravity
falls has a situation like this and like everyone's like we have to go back to the real world you
can't just live your whole life in a dream world and the answer is like well why not it's like well
because there's this thing you have to do but in ff tactics advanced there's nothing that they
have they're like orphans or something yeah they're live suck and they're just regular kids it's so
well written so it's like fucking nuts i love that story why can't i live my whole fucking life
in a fantasy yeah what's what's it mean to fucking you like that's why it's so fucking interesting
yeah it's such a well-written story it's crazy no that that is you remember and ride to hell
how his dad purposely did all this bullshit that would always go on to his kids and fuck them over
and then jake when he realizes it basically wow ride to death has much of a story that i thought
it did i can't believe i'm referencing it yeah ride to death we ride to death
ride to hell we were like jake you're wrong to kill so many people it was literally your dad's
fault all along that's the one i think i don't know if travis touchdown was wrong but i feel like
he could in which game the first i feel like now because he was fooled i feel like and he was always
a jerk to begin with i feel like he was just an ass yeah i feel like he was wrong about a couple
things he was fooled by the end of it yeah he was wrong about things that's he wasn't wrong in the
second one he killed the guy that killed his do you get to play as griffith in anything uh no no
okay you can play his deal in the couple things maybe it would be so good if you played as griffith
in the first chapter yeah of a certain game yeah you know as as you build up though the band of a
hawk and stuff oh man that would have been i find it totally fascinating when your character is
wrong uh wasn't uh rex from final fantasy 12 super wrong yeah he's the protagonist of the very
beginning of the very beginning yeah i think there's a shooter in in recent memory in which
the protagonist is like um spec ops spec ops but there's another one i think it's um
pop shock infinite to a degree and uh yeah there's a like i love it when when a character
because in the middle of the story in a situation like this usually character grabs you and goes
what are you doing you're ruining everything you're crazy and they usually sound kind of
deranged or whatever and then you find out like no you are ruining everything it is completely
your fault why why did you do this yeah it's bruce willis in the sixth sense under undertale
if you play this under tail if you play the other side that that's one too although there's well
there's you can debate that like you know he's doing it right according to but that's the same
of final fantasy tactics right like is marsh right or wrong right rams is dead right as fuck ever
or no no complicating so yeah on that i like i like that that's a good one if you if you can
think of other characters that fit that profile that they're just completely dead wrong like
send them in because i'd be interested in and more like isn't someone in a david cage game super
wrong all of them for all of them dependent they're it's the same as travis where they're
being tricked and shit no they're just bad people ethan's being tricked ethan is a bad person
um we got what no ted cruz is a bad person he's the origami killer oh man that's that's got
three frame normals so that means i want to use that was my favorite fucking right right
i don't ever see oh dong dong was wrong dong dong was wrong we didn't know until the end we
didn't know he was fighting not for what he thought um that we got one coming in from red man
hey woolly you better be red do you have an esoteric fact about the number 148
that's a pretty good question that's a good question uh and the answer is i do believe
that the nation of canada is 148 years old as of now i do believe that seems less than i thought
yeah because uh confederation was in like what 78 76 76 yeah something like that uh
mothman wants to know ooh mothman how do you feel 2016 is turning out in terms of game releases
because i think it might be the best one it's pretty good so far doom dark souls 3 overwatch
total war warhammer hyper light drift oh that came out super hot super street fighter 5 soon it'll be
dead asex f of 15 and mirrors edge the uh this might be one of the best years ever the witcher
expansion that came out observation like about an hour ago is apparently like super fantastic as
well 2016 is pretty fucking strong it's a pretty good god damn we're not even halfway through can't
wait for shen mu 3 coming out this year i think it is that dude the last guardian as well last
guardian and and ever seven remake gravity rush to yep hopefully totally uh some second seven
second seven coming to pc isn't that crazy what the fuck yeah isn't that nuts uh that's some good
shit it's getting with the times uh and vr is happening kind of can't wait for a great game
to be released on it uh you mean porn overwatch porn and vr hopefully mighty bloodstained
that's what that's what they're taking everyone down for nerf this
holy shit yeah oh i know what the play of the game is
what time did you what time did he did he comment no hi new man i i love me a good old dank meme but
the overwatch play of the game using older shittier memes that is the best i can't stop
can't stop just remix this old garbage with your new garbage yeah uh okay we got one coming in from
rey and rey wants to know he says uh will you made it abundantly clear in the xcom to lp that
you'd totally be kidnapped by aliens and jammed into a tube of bio slime if you could come out as a
super alien hybrid yeah you're right pat won't stop talking about how fucking cool it is if his
limbs could be replaced with the robot part yeah you want to go the genetic route but i want to get
all chromed up which do you think would be more popular in the real world natural body modification
like hormone hacking to get huge gene splicing and so on gattaca stuff or synthetic modification
like robot arms cyborg eyes and day sex out there was there a lot of the first thing is hey the price
has to be the same yeah let's assume let's let's assume the price has to be covered by medica otherwise
it can't be popular covered by Canadian medica no no because medica medica does not cover elective
surgery whatever it's covered okay my arms are garbage give me better um so here here's the question
at the same price i think obviously the gene stuff but the the mechanical stuff comes way earlier in
the timeline so well here here here's here's the way i've always broken it down in my mind right
the gene stuff has the obvious benefit of no robot parts yeah and everything works and you look like
you look like a human being yeah your body still breaks down but you are you are still mortal and
all that stuff the robot stuff has maintenance problems and you look like a cool robot and that's
a problem for some people but i always felt that the implication was is that no matter how much
stronger or faster or more intelligent you could make somebody through gene therapy slapping a super
computer into their fucking brain or giving them like robot biceps or some shit would always dominate
like it would always it would always have a higher performance delta they'll still need a
new heart at some point right but the question's asking popularity which one's the most popular
and so the question and for the question for me becomes like most for most of these the genetic
one would be far more popular yeah wouldn't like no question except for the mental enhancements
which you cannot see even though they're cybernetic such as eyes and brain enhancements i see those
mechanical ones for most people being way more popular that's the main thing is they have to
come out on the same day at the same price like a console with with equal benefits or else like
is the one that comes first is going to win otherwise i think most people would rather turn
into luke cage than cyborg yeah yeah but i don't know having a having a chip in your eyeballs is
in cyborg yeah no that's that's that's why i say like the chip in the eyeballs is going to be more
popular than growing you a completely new set of eyeballs and implant they're not yeah but they're
ripping your eyeball out and putting a camera there that looks up to your brain no they're
putting something on your eye like but what if it was ripped your ball eyeball and put a camera
i'm just saying there's a big difference between the like just getting a chip in and being cyborg
that's that's not a and here and here's the thing well it's because i agree like a lot of people
that would have a situation in which like the the the the genetic eye will say let's say it's like
35 vision like it's just absurd human powered vision right
but it can't see x-rays or detecting for red or track objects or give you a
HUD or what have you know that like you know and it's and it's a really core thing of like uh uh uh
how how how disruptive it will be to your body and your life on the left which is gene therapy
and how much more performance you can get out of your body on the right with the cyborg
in terms of popularity you sell you to say someone that all your legs really mangled up
well we can put injections in you do things to you and your leg will get better or we can tear
off your leg and replace it with a metal part people will always look at and go i'd rather
not the part where you painfully twist my leg off and replace it i mean you get put under you
know well you know what i mean yeah i do the the the general robot body horror yeah yeah you get
robo cop body or more like robo cop body dream after the horror tom says with love dear pat you
set on episode three that if we named an email knife fights you'd probably read it didn't work
yeah i did all right is that the holy male i you know that's the holy male and did you just read
it because the title as well i think he read it and then he realized he had to read it yeah flea
wants to know what overwatch character does best most deserves a spin-off of their own uh i think
that tracer should probably take it she's kind of the cover girl but also like she has i think
she has the best best balance of like character and also like features going for her because
farah would be kind of boring soldier 76 would be kind of boring i'd give it to hanzo i would
because you have to give it to hanzo and genji sure genji can be the virgin or whatever but i'd
give it to hanzo i'd go with tracer i think but i wouldn't mind a fucking tracer game as a spin-off
chaser never gonna happen though personally i think it's a massive bummer that that there's no
confirmation or anything about any single player anything there will never be probably i wish there
were if so versatile if we're allowing a pair then i'd say roadhog and it says overwatch character
so it is singular singular singular you don't i know you you don't want to say tracer with all
your heart no that's not true she's pretty far up can i can i get zanyada's like chill hour i'm
thinking about what could be more and more interesting than just teleport shooter like something
really creative and i'm like well she's fast and she jumps a lot yeah but i'm trying to think of
like a character like something that would be like really different you know because like i
definitely know we know what we knew we would know a genre we would get with tracer and it'd be fun
but i'm just wondering if any other characters would have like a something what was the question
like yeah which overwatch character would you like to see get a spin-off game i'd like to see
hanzo get one oh wait it's it's that sounds like you said who is most deserving the first yeah
oh okay sorry well yeah which overwatch character would you like to see get a oh what i'd like to
see well i say hanzo um but only in is i want to see ferrick because now the question is which
character do you like yeah yeah but in terms of what would actually ever happen it's tracer
tracer's the one yeah yeah no i was kind of more thinking mechanically what would be interesting
but anyway um we got one just give faith a teleport thing in america it's near done
and and laser guns no i'll take the heart take tracer's laser guns away no but then okay yeah
you know how it's natural to be more afraid of things than child as a child than as an adult
no i was wondering what i'm more scared of things than ever you've seen that 21 pilot song it's so
true have you tried to file your own gst for company i signed like documents today and it freaked me
out like i don't like it well question breakdown yeah right like the premise of your question just
completely fell apart what's the question is what what scared you went in when you grew up you
went wow was i stupid nothing uh the gumby movie what that shit was scary i'm still afraid of
at 209 so the the gumby movie you're right to add you know you know gumby and his whole band in that
movie get replaced with robot versions of themselves that's at some point you get to see them like
horrifyingly destroyed by water yeah and it's scary so and the black the the gumby who's like
in a suit of armor and shit yeah at some point he chases gumby through all the books with a sword
and they play scary music yeah hey man i feel like this question gumby gets cut in half i feel like
this he doesn't win is like fishing for me and matt to say like ren and stimpy like oh obviously
we're not we're not afraid of those ren and stimpy episodes anymore like fuck that they're
terrifying no i have my answer i mean like you're you're scared to buy in a hammer or looking at
chips but like i i i i'm scared of back in the day and if i watch it again i probably still would
be a little spooked uh is i think i told you guys about this this fucking burton urney sketch
whether in this ejection tomb it was the scariest shit and i remember up until i was 15 i was still
under the covers why didn't i turn it off i don't know but they're just trapped in this fucking
egyptian tomb and there's two statues that are alive that would mimic urney when burt's out of
the room and he just makes spooky noises and when burt would come back he would never believe urney
and that was the entire sketch and then there's just e in egypt and deal would come out i don't know
it was really scary back then i'm pretty sure to watch again and still be scared but i'm also
pretty sure of a saw me like this shit's stupid for babies i one thing that just came to mind
when i was really young i saw the gashley crumb tinies the fuck is that you know that collection
it's the i believe it's like the the little comics of all these kids the abc's of kids dying
and it's super duper i'm not familiar with it but it's for kids okay it's a really weird thing for
kids and it's like how all the it's like a is for albert who cracked his neck b is horrible
whatever and it goes through the whole thing yeah and exactly and i just remember staring at them
being like why is this for kids i know another one scary stories for sleepovers the the book series
i did you try to read it alone gamble doutoro is making a movie based on it because he's like this
scared the shit out of me as you try to read it alone i did well get fucked so there's one page
where a kid fox with someone's ant farm and the one illustration for this story is a bunch of ants
crawling into a child's eyeball no thanks bro nope yes please what's coming up on the channel
slash we got more dark souls we got uh we got uh doom videos somewhere and the start of a new lp
as teased at momo con star fox really at the tail end of the week we have the completion of the
chasing dead saga and holy shit finally over a trip uh we've also got you guys i'm glad people
like that lp it's uh that was really fun to record taking a look at that yeah i already said that
oh zelda is gonna be a bit slower this week for no reason except stuff got scheduled in its
spot uh i remember scheduling day six episodes for this week yes so i'll release a couple you did
i checked you saw them right i did okay and we got it we got a uh we got to get some princess
fighting going on so we're gonna do that we're gonna do some princess fight vanguard princess
second impact i i knew i was wrong as soon as i thought of it but i was like oh you're talking
about that chromarty fighting game based on the last episode that's not real and why am i thinking
about this like it is like i went far like as soon as i start waiting for it to wrap that all up
for yourself as soon as i start to have the thought you're like oh wait that's like oh that's
completely fake that's not real i just invented that damn you kamiyama but but i still want it
bad enough that that it existed that i'm gonna start talking for a couple frames there yeah
select your super the second super is the strawberry short blade yeah there it is yeah
that's good what do we all do overwatch is the overwatch uh the witcher expansion is out right
now i'm gonna play that uh trying to get more birds call overwatch and um i'll hopefully start
up overwatch but i actually don't seem as though playing it too much i just like all the characters
i don't know it's just a thing i'm like have you played it have you played it yet well i played the
the beta like a couple hours i i haven't booted up the new version i pre-ordered and everything
but i see myself going hey in a couple years i'll come back and it'll still be going you know what
i mean so like i don't think there's like a huge rush but whatever it's fair i'll probably play
more of our it's honestly to be honest it's it's really a you're addicted or you're not type situation
you know i'm at the same time like we all fell off splatoon pretty hard when that happens uh
uh week after next we'll see probably gonna go down like that michael damiani to that fifth bird
you know car that's a guy over at easy allies i'm pretty sure he's the guy on my server that
got all of them first i should probably brush up on my excerpt since uh the real octopip challenged me
and i saw that yeah uh don't embarrass yourself i'm gonna embarrass myself dude you have level
level five chan exists in this city like literally literally literally play with him
and you played exert once in the past month no yeah that's why i fucking thought and like i
haven't and i love guilty gear and i get exactly what i want i got my guilty gear every time i got
hyperbiking pictures but you're an idiot she looked nothing like a cat girl no i just don't
know what i don't know what that that is it's a bow like i can't tell it's clearly a bow it's
clearly a cat girl wearing a bow i hope so you just see cat girls everywhere now
seriously though i know win i know you can do it with the tools you have at your uh it's lube fiasco
could do it so can you if lube fiasco can win a fake fight so can you just pay him money
to lose that's the real winner's way oh and lurk more because if you do you might come across
a secret wait sometimes we'll talk about it