Castle Super Beast - SBFC 160: The Troubles

Episode Date: August 30, 2016

"Long, long ago, there were a best friends who try to make their skill ultimate. Because of the bloody life, it's no accident that they were involved in the troubles."...

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Starting point is 00:00:32 Special shoutouts to whoever it was that requested on the radio, Savage Garden, I want you, while I was on the way here. That was pretty nice. Yeah, that would be a special feeling. I would like to think that they know, they know the deal. This week should be Killer Queen, though. Well, I almost felt like I should call in and be like, can I request Queen, Killer Queen? JoJo fans are ruining the radio by putting on great music. Oh no.
Starting point is 00:01:17 Yeah, no, like, oh no, JoJo fans are asking for all the bands listed in JoJo. Oh no, that's awesome. Valley Girls rioting because they can't hear latest whatever who gives a fuck, right? Sure, there's a Valley Girl there. Well, fucking Spice Girls of Stan. Spice Girls of Stan. But, you know, it just coming around. I'd like there to be like a conscientious effort, like, to just play all the tracks from the current arc of JoJo on the radio as much as possible and see if anyone gets in on that.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Well, the problem is the current arc is mostly named after bands. Yeah. Yeah, so you just have to pick their greatest hits. It's pretty easy. It's not a problem because we've gone from tarot cards to like, okay, now we can just straight up grab that. What's your favorite Red Hot Chili Pepper song? Yeah, exactly. Man, it's so true.
Starting point is 00:02:03 If you're a JoJo fan, you should do that. Fortune Faded. Call local radios and tell them. So there's a bit where a Stan user mentions that he named his Stan in the recent episode and that got me thinking, are they all just intentionally naming them after songs they like? It's kind of like how the moment Joseph said the word Stan, people just inherently learned of the term. Around the world, everyone just starts to say Stan. There's just an internal consistency and you just have to accept it. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Did you see that video that somebody ginned up that was like the old OVA of people of all the Stardust Crusaders speaking in their native languages? Yeah. And what a fucking mess that is. That's such a neat idea, but. Also, you have to see the old animation and appreciate like, they put money into that shit. JoJo is stoic not because he's like that, but because his English is terrible. Yeah. And he's just thinking of the one cool thing he's going to say at the end for the whole episode.
Starting point is 00:03:00 I appreciated that look back to the past because just comparing the old show to the current one. Yeah, money was put in. The models were weirder adaptations of our acting style. Yeah, like Joseph's Blonde for some reason. But still, as an OVA, it gets more. So apparently, how long ago was Right to Hell? Right to Hell? The Let's Player, the game.
Starting point is 00:03:28 I feel like it was a while ago. You didn't play that on PC though, did you? No. No, that was a PS3 copy. No, was it 360? Either way, I don't think there's a PC. Oh yeah, why do you ask? There was a PC copy.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Was there? Okay. That's the crazy thing. I found out there was a PC copy and it got delisted. Of course it did. No kidding. Just like the other versions. That's why we bought a fiscal version.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Because Matt made the decision. If I remember right, by the way, Matt's on a cruise right now. Yes. Bye Matt. Have fun on your cruise. He'll be back next week. I believe that the conversation that Matt and I had to do Right to Hell was, this game had the worst reviews and it just got delisted.
Starting point is 00:04:10 We need to do it. Got to find it. Okay, Afro Samurai style. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because apparently before getting delisted from Steam, they marked the sale price down 160%, which means they owe you $6 if you buy it. And that was up on Steam and like you can't buy a game with a negative. I was going to say, I'm pretty sure nobody got a penny from that.
Starting point is 00:04:30 You can't buy a game with a negative price on it. But that's what the button said. It's the thought. That's pretty funny. It's fucking crazy. It's the thought that counts. Yeah. That's a good esoteric fact for $160.
Starting point is 00:04:42 It's pretty fucked up. That's a really good one. That's a mistake. They really wanted it done. We're sorry. I knew a guy who knew the developers of that and they were really proud of that game. They made DLC for it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:57 You don't make DLC unless you have something. It takes a lot. They were like make as much as we did. They were like really excited that it was going to be this awesome open world biker game. And it wasn't. It really wasn't. Not only is there not, but it's probably like salted the earth on that concept. Oh, that concept?
Starting point is 00:05:16 Yeah. Well, do you remember? There's a new one that I fucking forget its name. That Sony showed off. By Bend. Yeah, exactly. And I remember when they were showing the trailer off, I think I even said this looks like fucking ride to hell.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Yeah, exactly. Jesus Christ. That takes a special kind of game that you guys did bug testing and Matt did bug testing. But it takes a special kind of game that I get to feel like I did bug testing too. Because some games are just that much work. That game has what I would consider like an A class progress blocker in the DLC that just does not let you progress. You blow up a barrel.
Starting point is 00:05:55 All the location triggers don't happen. Yeah. The cool thing about doing QA is at least you can get in in a few days and the game will be better. Yeah. The game just keeps getting better until the end. By defunct company. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:10 There's a million things that you can guess as to what went wrong there. But I imagine there was a QA team of about three people and there were writing bugs as fast as they could, but no one was actually fixing them. Like a bug list of 40,000. Guys, if you don't hit the prompt, the water animation just plays while you're dunking the guy. That's cool though. It's fucking.
Starting point is 00:06:38 It's fucking so stupid. I'm not about to weigh that. Time and money. That's the number one. Did I see that? Yeah. It still would have been atrocious, but you can tell that these are all missions that got cut out of an open world game.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Liam, how'd you spend your time and money this week? I spent my time and money mainly on Deus Ex Mankind Divided. I would say mostly my time, honestly, because it was only a $60 game and I didn't buy microtransactions because I'm not a horrible human being who needs free practice kits all over the place. What about Deus Ex Go practice kits? So you can't redeem them on PS4. You can only redeem them on PC and Xbox One. That's remarkably stupid.
Starting point is 00:07:15 I mean, there was probably a back end. I don't know. There was probably a back end issue or something. Deus Ex Go is also really good though. That being said, Boyd, you not need those practice kits. You do not. This game, they fucking change the XP up a lot and you get practice kits all over the place.
Starting point is 00:07:31 I couldn't believe how many levels I had acquired by the first big mission. The game split into like, I guess, four parts or three parts and by the end of the third I had every augment I wanted. Every single one. And there's a lot. It's not like there's less augments or anything. There's more than there were. I had remote hacking, the dash, all the hacking, the jump, the pickup things, punching through
Starting point is 00:07:58 the walls, all the smart visions, the radar, and the recharge on your pips. Yeah, of course. I'm like, what the fuck else do I fucking need? The ones that get the lungs. You got to get the lungs. The lungs is the last one that I need for the alternate path one. And you want the melee two guys. I did get that one.
Starting point is 00:08:20 I like that one. It's not nearly as useful in this one. No. I find less situations for it. There's a lot less guys that are standing right next to each other conspicuously. Yeah. But anyway, I really like the game. I didn't dig the tutorial mission that much, particularly the little encounter at the
Starting point is 00:08:35 end of it I really didn't dig. It's rough. Me and Liam talked about it for a while a few days ago. It's really rough. Definitely. And if you don't immediately get what you're supposed to do exactly, you can find yourself reloading it because one of the side mission objectives fails partway through that section. When I got to the section, basically it's a skirmish with a lot of enemies.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Lots. Like 30 plus, right? I kind of assumed, I think like 15, I kind of assumed that the best route was okay, well I got to knock them all out or something. You totally don't have to. But I felt like I had to because I kept failing the secondary objective and I had to reload the fucking thing like four or five times. I looked it up on the internet and I was like, this is nuts, after I'd finished it.
Starting point is 00:09:23 And sure enough, I saw lots of other people also had trouble with that first little skirmish. It's really unclear because the objective is stop these guys and then the secondary objective is protect this guy. Keep this guy alive. And so I'm like, okay, I'll stop them. So I start knocking out everybody just like Liam did and then I'm like, okay, that doesn't work. So then I end up failing the secondary objective.
Starting point is 00:09:47 The guy just dies. The guy just dies. So I'm like, okay, I'll go next to him and protect him. So I go and like sit next to him and defend him and he still dies. Then you find out that you have to like disable the chopper and like fighting the guys is totally trivial. It has nothing to do with anything. And the guy dies based on a timer and it's so unclear and the whole rest of the game
Starting point is 00:10:05 is so much better than that. That one bit. The tutorial really threw me for a loop because I was like, oof, oof, I really hope this isn't represented. It's totally not representative at all. I honestly, I think I like mankind divided better than human revolution as far as I haven't finished it. So I don't know about the ending, but as far as what I've played, which is 10 main missions
Starting point is 00:10:26 and a bunch of side missions in between, I like it better than the better than human revolution. It's a lot easier to ghost areas. Yeah, they've made it. Not only is your invisibility power like more accessible earlier on, but I don't even need that. Like the vents, there's way more of them. Your abilities to take dudes out silently, no problem are enhanced and just the levels
Starting point is 00:10:48 are better designed with more cover and more ability to move between places where guys can't see you. There's so many different paths through play, like there's areas in the game that you'll get to and you'll be like, oh, okay, there's a path if I can jump high, there's a path if I have the lungs. There's the gas. If I can move heavy stuff, there's like, there's so many more paths. Is it like a human rev?
Starting point is 00:11:07 Is it like a Metroid game where you start off with all your shit, but then you don't actually lose it? You do start out with most of it. You start out with most of it in the tutorial and then there's a situation that makes you lose it, but also gain the ability to get new stuff. So yeah, you don't start out with all of it, but you start out with a bunch of cool stuff. You start out with like the landing system and high jumps. You start out with what I would believe an average player would have at the end of human
Starting point is 00:11:34 revolution. Yeah, definitely. But then that all gets pulled back. And you rapidly get back up to that. Oh, totally. You pick and choose like, okay, I didn't need all those health upgrades in the first place. Yeah. No, you still like the character in the start game has all the health upgrades.
Starting point is 00:11:49 I don't need those. Totally don't need them. I'm gonna get shot a single time, ever. It's really satisfying. The writing is still, the writing still feels really good, honestly. I'm just really enjoying it. And the hub, I had heard there was only one hub area that was kind of true and kind of not.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Yeah. Some missions have like their own dedicated hub. I say we can probably talk about everything up until Golem because Golem is the one they previewed all the time. Yeah. So like, so there's Prague and Prague, I think it's been a while, but I think it's bigger than Detroit. It is.
Starting point is 00:12:24 It is physically smaller, but Detroit had massive open areas of nothing. Yeah. And it's super dense. It has about twice or three times as much like usable existing real place. Yeah. So that was about like eight streets when you think about it and then like. They were huge. They were very wide.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Yeah. And there was a lot of just walking. The in between areas. Yeah. And then there's the sewers as well. So you can double that up. Yeah, exactly. And then kind of like it still has the sewers and stuff.
Starting point is 00:12:52 And yeah, Golem City is like a seven story, smallish, mediumish hub that's just dedicated to this one main mission unless there's another. So yeah. Like, you know, when in human evolution, when you're going to go to the FEMA camp at the end of Detroit, you're like, this is a mission and you're going to sneak in and it's a it's a it's a relatively long stealth mission and the Hangshaw lab is similar. Yeah. Here, the the Golem City hub, the last third of it is that, but the first two thirds is
Starting point is 00:13:24 a story based hub where instead of side missions, it's all just main mission and different ways to go about it. But it's really big and it's really long and most of it is is you walking around a city area with with police and that are not on alert unless you do something bad. Like it's like a new area that you just go there for that. And yeah, you're saying that there are like seven side missions that are just treated like secondary objectives to the main mission. Yeah, because it's like, okay, you talk to the guy, you can either go talk to the guy
Starting point is 00:13:54 and he'll smuggle you in or you can find the dude's key by beating up the guard or you can save someone's family. You can find someone's stolen shit. Or you can do all of them or you can do all of it and that's just that's just secondary objectives on one main mission. Right. Okay. So I thought like, okay, only one hub.
Starting point is 00:14:10 That's a bit of a bummer. But then when I got to Golem City, I was like, wait, hang on. There's actually a bunch of mini hubs. Yeah. And Prague changes. Yeah. And Prague does change upon repeat visits later later in the story. There is the one thing that like, I don't know about you, Liam, but when I started the
Starting point is 00:14:21 game, I just went to every single house and broken and took everything in the game. Yeah. I went to a bunch and then I was like, okay, you know what is going to take this game is going to take me longer than it needs to if I do this every now and then I catch myself just going between a bunch of houses and then going, well, I don't need more shotgun ammo. Well, here's what I use that to do is like buy all the practice kits. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:45 And then what happens is that the main missions or side missions will be, you got to go to this place and break into this house and I'll be like, the door's open. I already broke in. Yeah. You just walk in. I had a side mission where you have to find an undercover guy and I went into the place that I had already ransacked and I found him there newly placed there. He wasn't there when I went there originally and I was like, Oh, I already, I totally agree
Starting point is 00:15:05 with Liam again. It's great. Yeah. It's really, really good. It only has one problem. What do you think that is? It's so on the nose. It's very blunt about its themes.
Starting point is 00:15:16 Yeah, it is. It's really, really, really blunt. Like they do everything in their power to tell you that, that like this is the Holocaust and augmented people are like analogs for Jews and that like they, there's a, there's a character that's hiding out in her goddamn basement like Anne Frank. And there's, there's a guy telling you how a Golem city isn't a concentration camp and all that stuff. And it's super weird and it's super pointed and there's the fucking Og lives matter poster
Starting point is 00:15:47 right outside your house. Right. And I mean, like, like I said, they literally use the term mechanical apartheid. Yeah. Yeah. Like it's so, so on the nose. Yeah. It is justified in the canon of the game though.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Yeah. And the canon of the game is slightly different because the Og incident that happened in human revolution killed 50 million people. We like 10 hours, which is worse than world war two in a day, but like there is justification for internal justice. It's just, it's just like, it's like, cause you know how like Android science fiction is about slavery and like, well it can be and like, and that's why we're worried about Detroit.
Starting point is 00:16:25 And then how like cybernetic or transhumanism can be about like minority groups. Like this one, it feels like it's constantly nudging you like, yeah, you get it. It's, it's, it's after a little while, I felt myself not really feeling that so much anymore. Does it tone down? Cause Golem city was like really heavy on it. Where'd you play up to? Cause I'm up to like, I don't know the names of the missions, but I got back to Prague
Starting point is 00:16:50 at night. Okay. I putzed around a little bit. Yeah. Okay. I'm a little bit past that. I don't know. I just, after a certain point, I wasn't feeling it as much right at the beginning of the
Starting point is 00:16:59 game. I was like, yeah, I got it. I got it. And then I just didn't like even golem city. I was like, whatever. That's just what the world is. You know, it wasn't bothering me at a certain point. So I hear you.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Talos or speech is fucking amazing. Yeah. That was a fun sequence. That was a, it was a cool sequence. So like, his whole bit is fucking great. I don't know, not a ton to say about it. Did you play that breach mode? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:27 I played breach a bunch actually. I did play breach a bunch. What is that? Breach is a side game mode made by another team at Eidos Montreal. And it's like a, it's a mini game effectively where you go into these little areas with a different character and you steal items from the Palisade, their data bank or whatever. And it's like a speed run time trial kind of thing in these new areas. You mean that bank?
Starting point is 00:17:59 You know, but you know, they have that big building that they have that you can see from certain buildings in Prague that's over the water that like goes up and it's like a big horizontal surface. Oh yeah. That fucking weird thing. That area. But it's a digital representation of that area. That thing that can't possibly exist because it would fall down?
Starting point is 00:18:15 Yeah. More or less. Your missions? Yeah. That's what it's what it always was. Did you see the trailer for breach or? I didn't really, I know it came out, but I didn't really check it out. That's effectively what it is.
Starting point is 00:18:26 So you start with like a pre-made character or? No. It's kind of like your avatar character. You don't design it or anything like that, but it's no, but I mean like in terms of abilities. Oh, okay. Yeah. It's a slightly different upgrade tree than Jensen does and you can get abilities like double jumps and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:18:45 So it's kind of differently oriented and some stuff that Jensen has you don't have because there's no real needs. It's like a snake. Like the lungs aren't something you can get. So it's like a sneaking version of like the mercenaries? Yeah. More or less. It's like an out of world, just core gameplay.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Yeah. Like thing. Yeah, pretty much. It's fun. It builds on, there's a sequence that you find, I think it's like main mission nine or something. And when you see that sequence and then see Breach, you're like, oh, I see it's like really cribbing off of that area and stuff. So that's, it's neat.
Starting point is 00:19:15 It's good game mode, honestly. It does have some like free to play game design concepts in there that I think kind of like get in the way a little bit, but you know, otherwise it's fun to play. So yeah. Okay. I'm excited to play more of it. That's, I mean, like it's saying that something is midway through and better than like human revolution is like, that's tall praise.
Starting point is 00:19:43 I'm enjoying it more than human revolution. Well, I hear a lot of people saying that it ends like badly. Yeah, I heard that too. But like I'm of the opinion that human revolution also ended very badly. I don't think human revolution had a good ending either. Like I think the endings were, they were entertaining and stuff, but it sucked that it just came down to like. Oh, I mean, I mean like everything at Panchea, I mean like having it devolved into like a
Starting point is 00:20:04 zombie thing was really boring. Yeah. Panchea was like, Panchea was neat, but I found it a bit weak. And then the endings was like press, would press one of these three buttons, you know, not literally. There's a bunch of, but actually literally, there's a bunch of cool little stuff in the game that means nothing, but it's, it's the kind of writing that I really love. And there's a, there's a tiny bit before you go to golem where Adam talks to his therapist
Starting point is 00:20:29 because they have a court, they have a man therapist and she's like, you need to take your Neuropazine. He's like, no, I don't. And she goes, okay, whatever. Like we're supposed to believe all of our patients. So you, you want to tell me you're some kind of medical marvel. I'll just have to believe you. And he's just like, but he totally is.
Starting point is 00:20:49 And he doesn't have to say so you can go and get your Neuropazine and give it to other people. Yeah. Or sell it. Or sell it. Yeah. It's great. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:00 That was a really cool sequence. And I'd like to see if there are failstates for that sequence because like by the end of it, she was, for me, she was like, yeah, you can go out in the field, whatever. But I'd love to see if, if she could like tell you that, no, you're not, you're not fit to go out. Probably the weirdest thing about the story so far is that like all the big, like it, it establishes the big players in like the, the very beginning. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Like you see the guys talking around the table and going like, those are the bad guys. Yeah. That kind of happened at human rev as well. Yeah. The problem here is that I know that nothing can happen to those guys in this game because JC Denton deals with those guys 30 years in the future. Yeah. A lot of them have to survive.
Starting point is 00:21:43 They have to survive and their plans have to even, they have to be like somewhat successful for Deus Ex 1 to happen. And it's a little weird. Unless they just rewrite the canon as we move forward. No. Yeah. No, they're not. Invisible war all day.
Starting point is 00:22:00 I'm sure. Well. Invisible war was a nano dream. But even then that takes place after Deus Ex. So a certain amount of invisible war fucking piece of shit. Yeah. They'll fix it one day. Oh man.
Starting point is 00:22:12 I played that. Really? Doing nothing. I played that relatively recently. And remember that time period where everyone would freak out about the consolized PC ports? Yeah. This is the first time that I fucking felt it. Like the icons are massive.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Yeah. And the UI is busted on mouse and keyboard. Well, like if you want to talk like Eidos doing that, it was that and Thief 3 Deadly Shadows or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. That was the other one where it was like, oh, this is fucking a console game for sure. And when you play it, like you totally feel it.
Starting point is 00:22:44 So let alone the new Thief. I didn't really do or play much other than that also. Yeah. I played that a lot. I played more Federation Force. I'm quickly approaching the ending and it's still luck in it. It's good. And the thing that hit me the most after like playing it more and more is the missions are
Starting point is 00:23:01 really varied. There's a lot to do. Some missions will just be like, go in, kill these things. Some missions will be like, okay, go in and cage these giant monsters or go in and like push these carts to the end of the level or bring that thing. Like there's a bunch of different mission objectives and it's really neat. Are you on familiar planets? I don't believe they are planets that had been touched before.
Starting point is 00:23:23 I don't think they were ever in any other Metroid game. Let me ask you, you said you were playing this like mostly co-op, right? I played, I've been playing offline like when I'm in public transit and stuff. When I'm at home, I'll play with that. So because I remember I seen someone talk about, I think it might have been Jim Sterling, that like the missions seem like balanced for co-op and that they're much harder solo. So that there is, so you can equip those little, god, they're called augmentations to your mech, right?
Starting point is 00:23:50 Yeah, exactly. So you have three slots for them. You start only with one, but you unlock the second one pretty quickly. And then the third one you unlock pretty late in the game. And they start you off right at the beginning of the game and they tell you like to your face, here's this special one that you can only use in single player mode. We highly recommend you use it in single player mode. It doubles your damage output and double and halves the damage you take.
Starting point is 00:24:14 And that the balancer. Yeah. And when you put that on your character, which is how I've been playing in the single player mode, it's fine. Okay. All right. And also, there are these three little robots. I don't remember how they work in multiplayer because I constantly forget to even put them
Starting point is 00:24:29 on in single player. That when you're assigning which missiles each character is taking to the mission, you can grab these robots and they'll like hover around your character and they're like options and gradients. And let you switch when you need to. No, no. They just shoot more bullets alongside you. Oh, cool.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Yeah. And they're much weaker bullets, but in single player, you can equip all three of them to you. So you'll be firing your strong primary gun and then compensating a little weaker bullets. Missing team members. Yeah. Okay. But yeah, if you were playing without that augmentation, it would be rough.
Starting point is 00:25:02 I did fail like two missions in single player because I ran out of life and died. So it is totally possible even with that, but without it taking proper damage and doing half the damage would be not enjoyable. Honestly, that would probably not fun. Are the boss monsters just like damage sponges? One of them was for sure. Another one was pretty interesting. It was like this aquatic boss that like swam around and split into two and then like it
Starting point is 00:25:31 was coming. You had to shoot it when it comes out of the water and stuff, that one was neat. But there was definitely one boss that was just an ugly damage sponge and that wasn't fun. Okay. Some of the bigger enemies you definitely get the gist too that like you're meant to have a couple characters blasting away at them, but it's not usually, you only usually face like one or two of them at a time or even in a given mission because they're like
Starting point is 00:25:51 big and frequent enemies, you know. Yeah, that game's super good. And yeah, I guess that's... Watch Eric Andre. I really want, I need to watch Eric Andre. I've seen a bunch of it before you came over here. We all watched like the back end of an episode just before this. I'm just waiting for Flavor Flaves to get kicked in the face.
Starting point is 00:26:15 That's all I needed. Dude, like Hannibal Bress is midway like Tatsu and he's gonna get kicked. Like just feel like not even Tatsu like Roudhouse just straight and it's like there's no avoiding this. It's happening. Like even if the floor dropped out, it would still have, there's no like the frame is on his face. Like it's going down.
Starting point is 00:26:38 That's in a commercial? In a commercial. There's no avoiding that shit. No, I'd love to see that too. Oh man. Fucking... Next level. I'm standing slightly behind you just so that you feel uncomfortable because he's haunting
Starting point is 00:26:49 me. And really we're doing like the analysis of everything they're doing to make the guests uncomfortable. It's like Hannibal standing close enough that you can feel his presence. Yeah. Yeah. But feel the warmth right behind you. And he's doing weird shit every couple of minutes.
Starting point is 00:27:02 So you snap your head around like what the, what the fuck? And then you snap back and Eric's doing weird shit. The lights in the studio are to their maximum heat. Eric isn't bathing. You are uneasy. You are maximum. I remember that, right? He doesn't bathe for the entire day.
Starting point is 00:27:17 He doesn't bathe for the entire day. Or cut his nails. Yeah. Which is horrible. But like fuck. He knows what he wants. He's getting it. Get the rats.
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Starting point is 00:29:56 Thanks, Lucrate. Yeah, it's fine. And we're back. So Liam, in the Phantom Zone that we were talking about earlier, you mentioned that you wanted to say one more thing about Deus Ex Man kind of right now. Yeah, that I totally forgot. And Pat, like we've both played like... It's easy to forgot because it's the lack of it.
Starting point is 00:30:18 It's very easy to forgot. And we've both played like 10 plus hours, I think. Yeah. Yeah. How are the bosses? I don't know. Yeah, I don't know either because I haven't fucking fought one. I don't think there are any.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Yeah. That's an interesting way of addressing the problem. It's conversation boss battles. Yeah. Yeah. Like in the previous title, for sure. That's a really interesting way of addressing the problem. I never would have expected that.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Think of like Last of Us and how... I think there's one boss and there's two bosses, at least two. And they're both like the biggest boss fight in that game is like a big room with lots of enemies. Yeah. I still... Now, I hear there is a boss. In Mankind Divided.
Starting point is 00:31:01 And it's blazingly obvious once you meet the character. Oh, yeah. I know. Yeah. Okay. You're gonna... I'm gonna fight you. I'm gonna fight you.
Starting point is 00:31:12 But yeah, just not including any bosses. I guess that's a way to solve the problem. That is? It's odd because Deus Ex, the original, did have a bunch of bosses, but they were all terrible. Yeah. They were all pretty awful and you could just blow them up in like a second. How awesome would it be if you ran into a big, brutish, multi-augman and you didn't
Starting point is 00:31:35 fight him? That'd be great. Could you imagine, dude? That'd be crazy. It ain't gonna happen. Yeah. It ain't gonna happen. Did you see...
Starting point is 00:31:43 Like, did you... I forget, like a while ago, there was some video that somebody put out, like, how I play Deus Ex and it was like sneaking behind a corner for like 10 minutes. And the next was like how the developers think I play Deus Ex and it was the fucking cut scene from the trailer where Jensen's flipping all over and stabbing all those dudes. And it's like, yeah, no, that doesn't make for a good trailer, like hiding behind a box. Not at all. That makes for some good B-roll for like a 15-second shot or something.
Starting point is 00:32:11 Welcome to Thief. Yeah. Yeah, basically. Yeah. Three. Thief. Thief, four. No, you have to start getting the four out there, but then you don't finish it.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Like, Dishonored had the same problem where they showed off all this swordplay, like, I don't know, anybody who took out their fucking sword in that game. I'm sure there's a lot of people who did. Once. Yeah. And Dishonored was extra, like, shitty about it because, like, the game punishes you pretty significantly for murdering people. Dishonored, yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:39 And it's like, but there's a whole combat system in the game. Don't... That's good, though. You know, like, same with Mankind Divided, like, or Deus Ex in general and stealth games in general. I really do appreciate that, like, certain dialogue options now won't work as well, depending on your prior conduct. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:58 So, if you're trying to, like, if you're trying to moralize to a guy and be like, you have to do the right thing, but you killed every single person in between you and him, he will be like, man, shove it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's solid. You're an asshole. You don't talk to me about being ethical. Strangers can't look at you and see your stats, though.
Starting point is 00:33:17 No. It's, yeah, okay. Not a lot. But they could have heard about you. Right. Because of the blazing gunfire outside. On the way into the building, yeah. That happened.
Starting point is 00:33:26 I got to a sequence and I accidentally got caught and I was like, ah, fuck it. And I put everyone down with a stun gun. I didn't actually kill anyone. I haven't actually killed anyone. And yeah, you're calling for that zero? Yeah. And I got to the girl at the end and I said something about how, like, oh, it's pretty shitty that you're hiding behind, like, armed guards, like, violence isn't, and she's like,
Starting point is 00:33:45 yeah, but you're no stranger to, like, you're no stranger to violence. And then Adam's just like, oh, I guess I'm not. He's like, literally just like, oh, you say it, right? So Jensen, you got some guts on your boot there. No, I don't. I didn't ask for those guts. Might want to. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:34:02 I didn't. Yeah. Jensen is like, it's, there's a weird point in that game where Jensen is just like so far above every other human character, everyone, like even, even the people that are just tricked out head to toe with Augs look like bootleg pieces of shit. It's kind of neat because that wasn't really in human revolution that they, that it was a constant thing. But in this game, like, you'll get stopped at checkpoints and they'll look at your papers
Starting point is 00:34:30 and they'll be like, like, holy shit, like, you're a fucking weapon. FF7, what are you, some kind of superhero? Yeah. Yeah. And you get constantly reminded of that, but it's cool, like it feels cool, kind of, because that wasn't at all. And there's a guy that's like, man, your text really, really great. Who made it?
Starting point is 00:34:47 I know it's not such and such because it doesn't come in black. Yeah. And it's like, oh, man, no, it's, it's really neat. All that, like, old Sarah, Sarah stuff coming back in dialogue here and there, stuff like it. And how special Jensen is. Well, yeah. Because in the time period in between then and then augmentations over, like getting
Starting point is 00:35:06 all is over as a science. So like, and the only people who really do it on mass is like Taiyong Medical at that point. Yeah. And they do it for very specific reasons. And it's like, nobody in the world has the shit that Jensen's walking around. And you're not, you're not allowed to get it anymore. No, hell no.
Starting point is 00:35:24 It's super forbidden. So I heard that there's some cool stuff in your apartment now too. Yeah, there's some cool stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. What do you mean? Like just the redesign of it.
Starting point is 00:35:33 It's, it's cool. It's been set up as well. It's, it's, it's, it's a different place. It's a different place. You're in Prague and it's like Adam really liked his old apartment because he made this one look very similar to his old apartment. I really dig the first conversations with David Sareff. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:49 That's great. David Sareff's like there right at the beginning and you're like, oh, hey. What happened to you? Oh yeah. I guess that would have happened to you, huh? Yeah. Okay. Real bummer that they didn't have the same voice actor.
Starting point is 00:36:00 Yeah. He's, he's, oh. It's my mom calling. It's my mom calling. I'm going to message her and tell her. Put her on the podcast. Sorry. I can't talk right now.
Starting point is 00:36:09 I'm doing. Call the client. Oh, I think, by the way, I think I'm going to have a new ringtone. Oh yeah? Yeah. Well, I think that was. Morning, morning, morning. Morning, morning.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Oh, that's dark. That's a. It's a good ringtone. I like it. I'm going to, I'm going to set that up soon. Yeah. Oh yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Yeah. That's worrying. Oh yeah. I saw that. He's nuts. He's nuts. Did you know about that? Hmm?
Starting point is 00:36:36 Sareff's voice actors. No, that sucks. He's nuts, dude. It sucks. Cause it's so good. They're putting fluoride in the water. I'm like, I can't even imagine a replacement. Honestly.
Starting point is 00:36:45 No, his voice is so good. And just it like, there's so many people who do that like old guy voice, but his was really unique. Yeah. Cause it was like, it was like dude, bro from SoCal who got good at science and he's your dad as well. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:00 Loves baseball. Nothing like really hurts like a voice actor or an actor just getting replaced when they nail it so well. Yeah. And it's really easy to just remember how he says Adam in your head, but that's, it's gone. Adam, you're like, ah, fuck, it's close, but it's just there. I just started getting used to Don Cheadle as Rody and like, I'm like, now I'm like,
Starting point is 00:37:24 he's super awesome and I love it, but I really liked Terrence Howard in the original and like, it was one of those things. So did Terrence Howard? Yeah. Well, but not enough apparently, you know? And I think like one of the ones that really comes back is, it's from, it's a Gamer Throne's character that shows up a bit later on that you guys haven't seen yet. And they just get replaced.
Starting point is 00:37:43 The guy left to play Agent 47 in the fucking shitty hitman movie and like, so while he got a paycheck. No, no way, no, no way. Not Agent 47, the transporter, that's what it was. He went to be the new transporter. Much better role. And because he left to do that, they had to just recast him entirely and the flip from replacing that guy was from I love this character to I hate this character.
Starting point is 00:38:10 Like it was that strong. Didn't they replace the mountain like three times? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They had to cast him a bunch of times. It was weird. But they finally have, well, look at the guy that they had was like...
Starting point is 00:38:20 He just kept dying live on set. The guy they got in the end was like a cool like guy that this kind of famous for being a strong man. And they're like... Yeah. I remember seeing a video of him boxing with this Irish MMA like champion and the size differences such that he's just walking around getting nailed in the face. He's like...
Starting point is 00:38:39 Yeah. Yeah. But it's like when a character literally goes from being like, I like you too. I hate you. That's a huge difference. You get all the way to the end of Stardust Crusaders and it's not the right deal. Oh my God. Just done.
Starting point is 00:38:56 That would have been... Yeah. Just get out of here. No, no, no. Just get the fuck out of here. Unacceptable. Uh... Anyway.
Starting point is 00:39:04 Yeah. What you do with your life, man? Speaking of getting the fuck out of here, I went and I did some more room escape. Oh, no kidding. Yeah, I went. Did you escape? I did escape. Nice.
Starting point is 00:39:16 I'm here and I escaped. I escaped. Yeah, well did they... Wait. Did you escape or did they let you out? No, no, I got out twice. That's fucking fantastic. Yeah, me and the crew are on a roll right now.
Starting point is 00:39:27 We've pretty much been able to... We haven't failed since our like third room or so. Have they put you on the ban list yet? Not yet. Where they have like photos of you like you stole something? What I can say though is in each of these cases like we, even though we're getting better at it, like we've, we're cutting it close within the five minute to, to three second box.
Starting point is 00:39:52 I'm sure they're still hard. Yeah. And the last two difficult ones we did, we got out within 10 seconds of the limit. Right. Type of thing. Uh, it was, this last one is really interesting. It's still... Do they have a thing where like if you get out fast enough, you get your money back?
Starting point is 00:40:05 No. Like if you're out within five, you get your cash back. Cause what a disappointment. Like... Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty extreme. Like how much is it to go in?
Starting point is 00:40:16 It's like 20. Oh dude. This is like a money laundering scheme right here. I'm just going to go start up a shitty room escape. And you get your money back. No, no. And you get, and we just take the money. Oh.
Starting point is 00:40:25 And tough. You did it. You're really good, man. Open the door. It's like, here's like a medal from the dollar envelope. You're really good. Well, you save metal. Counting your paychecks.
Starting point is 00:40:34 You save metal. But so this, this, this new one... Sorry, I'm interrupting you. This new one that they set up at, on the West Island. It's the extension of a maze. Right. Right. They have now hidden like pieces of a medallion that you find in each room.
Starting point is 00:40:47 And if you put them all together, you get a prize for it type of thing. That's cool. And like, but they're, they're totally extra objectives that you can miss. Yeah. You know, so it's your little extra achievement or, or... Or whatever. Whatever. If you do it.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Yeah. So like it's escape, but also find this thing. If you can. Well, you're a pretty big guy. You're in a situation where they come to you and they reread that part on the rules. This is, you do not have to use your strength to complete the puzzles. Uh, it's, I've, I've never had to, it's fine. And if you find yourself doing so, you're doing it wrong.
Starting point is 00:41:19 Oh, don't get rid of you if you fucking break something. There was one room in one game. And now I've done so many that I can like actually specify without giving it away. But there was one point where I opened the door and I saw a laser hallway. Yeah. And I went, nah. And then I, I, and then my little friend was like, she's like, I got this. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:41:42 And like I handed her, she handed me her bag and she just fucking like went right through. Let me do a laser hallway with all these dreads. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. I didn't even think about that. No, he's big and he's tall and he's got dreads all over the place.
Starting point is 00:41:55 So. Like go watch that oceans 12, I think. Yeah. Except just like... My expertise is useful elsewhere. It was not there. But these two new room escapes that amaze were pretty awesome. And I still think that the, if you come to Montreal and you're into room escape, the
Starting point is 00:42:16 amaze games are my favorite set so far. From what I can tell, if you're talking about this on the podcast so far, there appear to be like 10 or 20 now. And they're there. The business is starting to boom because people are realizing that like, yeah, this is a, this is an easy cash grab. Easy money. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Rent an apartment out, put a bunch of, throw a bunch of random shit in it and sit there and collect money. Did you go to that dodgy one near Chinatown yet? No. Remember I said to you a picture, like, I think that one looks a little dodgy from the outside. I'm not too sure about that one. You go inside, you get stabbed and they take everything you have.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Oh, you go lost in the maze. I don't know what to tell you. Jump to a super real shark pit. Yeah. Yeah. I think that... The cops coming out. Are you still in the maze?
Starting point is 00:42:59 You guys want to go in the maze? The cops are like, I guess, I guess we're going to have to go in the maze. Is that police tape? No, that's part of the game. Oh, okay. Okay. All right. Dude, like, you could do so much.
Starting point is 00:43:11 Yeah. Yeah. But I'll give shout outs to... And then the cops are like, you're under arrest. No, you got to find me in the maze. You just run into the maze. It's part of the game. They'll never find me in here.
Starting point is 00:43:21 Oh my God. And if you have enough threats set up, like... Dude. But I want to give shout outs to Upsidem as well, which is the other one where there was actual, like, every once in a while, a guard will come check on you, stealth your way through this mission and hide so that you don't get caught by the guards, which is fun. Yeah, you mentioned that.
Starting point is 00:43:41 And we started talking... I mean, the group of friends started talking about this other event that's like, it happens during... I think it's during Halloween, but it's like a little bit, about 45 to an hour outside of town. And there's an area where it's like a forest that has a giant, scary, immersive experience thing where you put on, like, you either choose between a green, yellow, and red shirt, which and that color of shirt determines how much they can fuck with you while you're in the
Starting point is 00:44:11 forest. Yeah. And it's like, escape this large, giant area. And you, because you're bad, I see like, give me the red shirt. Okay. Well, I was going to. I would. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Yeah. Like, they will attack you with the red. There's a straight up list and I'm on board for almost everything on the list. Except for that one thing. Except for that one thing. And that one thing is... What's the one thing? We can force you to eat weird things.
Starting point is 00:44:37 Okay. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, I tap out there, you know. That's an unfortunate one. Yeah. I'm down for... Can you email them and be like, due to dietary restrictions, I can't do the eating thing. But I'm down for the rest. Handle, grab, beat, put a thing on my head and throw me in a van, whatever, man.
Starting point is 00:44:56 But I'm not going to eat some weird shit. You have no idea what that could be. That dude, that, I can't trust that. That could be poopoo. Like I am not a party pooper. I am so in for the experience, but no, the upper limit is just a little too far. That does seem like that could be, because there's a lot that you can do. So like, that's not dangerous to your health, but that is disgusting.
Starting point is 00:45:19 Exactly. I think I'd have to reluctantly be a yellow shirt. Yeah, yeah, I get you. It's probably just bugs, but it's like... Yeah. Still, bugs are gross. But there's a world of difference between bugs and live bugs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:34 Yeah. You know, there's too much, the variable is too open. Eat this scorpion. Eat this tarantula. Yeah. It's too open-ended. Yeah. No fucking thanks.
Starting point is 00:45:44 So that's where I have to tap. What I also did spend a whole lot of time doing was getting in on that Titanfall 2. Yeah. So I played just the tutorial. I didn't play anything else, because the servers were down, but just to get a feel for it, I played just the tutorial area. So you know what sucks about that tutorial? What sucks about it?
Starting point is 00:46:03 How did you... It cuts you off at like right when the mech's supposed to go. Did you get a tutorial for your Titans? No, it cuts you off right where that's supposed to be. And there is none. Yeah. Right? One of the really good things in part one was that tutorial where you learn how to use
Starting point is 00:46:18 your Titan and interact with it. It was super extensive. Like the dialogue and the lead up to it is like, okay, time for the Titan. And then there's no Titan. It's not done yet. And I guess it's not done yet. But it was still fun to run around, and the area was gorgeous. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:30 And doesn't it feel like a dream? Yeah. Like... They have that dream-like quality to it that's really hard to place, where they've got this beautiful lacquered wood, reverse waterfalls and fields of plants and stuff. But I do mean like controls. It also feels like a dream to control. Because I was playing Overwatch before I loaded it up, and then I jumped onto it.
Starting point is 00:46:52 You fucking nightmare ghetto setup? Yeah, we'll get there. You've got four pedals now. We'll get there. I jumped into Titanfall and just running around, double jumping off the wall, hooking, right? And then like holding aim while you're on the wall, sliding a bit, doing the ground slide. Everything that you do to maneuver is so much fun. It's the best feeling FPS experience I've had in years.
Starting point is 00:47:16 And this includes Mirror's Edge right now, even. Yeah, Mirror's Edge doesn't feel as good at all. It never did. It's crazy. But this thing is like so much fun. And then you jump online, and then you see what's going on with it. And I suspect as well that the Titan tutorial is not there, because there's two demo Titan's right now.
Starting point is 00:47:36 It's clearly part of the story as well, too. But they also might just not be done with some of that stuff. But you do get these two new setups, and one is kind of like a revamp of the original default Titan. Well, the game's gold now. Actually, that's true. I don't know why it was. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:47:52 It's not there. Yeah. And then you get it on the disk. And then you get a revamp of the ogre, like the heavy, with like flame themed. God fucking damn it, that game is amazing. And it continues to be amazing. Okay, so a lot of the stuff that was. Wearing a Titanfall shirt.
Starting point is 00:48:12 I am wearing a Titanfall shirt. A lot of the complaints that came up last time that you mentioned that people were saying. Yeah. Right? So there's two things. One, some of them were really, not so much over exaggerated, but they were misunderstood. Right? Now I'll get into those.
Starting point is 00:48:27 But then there were others that were like, they straight up went, yep, we caught that, and we're fixing it for the beta 2. I'm really glad that the directors straight up like acknowledged some of the movement speed things and are actively going to improve it. Yeah. Because that's great. And it's nice to see them say, yeah, no, we, okay, our bet. Yeah, our bet.
Starting point is 00:48:50 Increasing the level of Titanfall, Titan points that you get over time. Well, having them actually be persistent. Yes. As opposed to just a kill streak. Purely objective based. Yeah. 100%. And like increasing like the, the momentum that you keep and the speed that you gain
Starting point is 00:49:05 when you're doing advanced movement maneuvers, you know, like that's, that's a serious one change. Like hooking a corner and swinging around it at full speed is, it's, it's everything I love. It's cool. It's everything. This is kind of a side, but I'd actually want to talk about something you said a little more in depth about the way that they talked about this.
Starting point is 00:49:24 It can't be oversold on how important the tone of your patch notes and interviews are like in regards to your game. Because there was recently an FF 14 like live letter where they talked about like, here's what we're going to do going forward. And they, they were like, ah, we admit that we fucked up the current raid cycle and we made it too hard and we're sorry, we thought this was going to happen and this happened instead, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And everyone went, oh, that's really nice that they talked to us like human beings.
Starting point is 00:49:54 It matters a lot to hear that. And you, you compare that to the way like, say Blizzard does their wow patches or how a lot of companies do their, or like Dark Souls that they're fucking patch notes where they're like, players seem to not appreciate the adjustments we made where it sounds like, yeah, it's really condescending mistakes were made. And you're like, and you're like, people don't seem to actually be using this feature as intended. So we're going to monitor.
Starting point is 00:50:19 It's like, yeah, it's like, fuck you, you fucked up, admit it. It's interesting because during the, the, I think it was, I think it all came out in an interview, I think. And during it, there are bits where they like stand by some of their changes and they say, like, admittedly the level we put out wasn't reflective of such and such thing. Oh, the Titanfall stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, there's, there's that page on the, I'm going to read it too.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Yeah, it was an interview, right? No, no, no, it's, it's a press release. It's just perfect because it's like, we, we, we changed, we changed X, like we changed the turning speed because of this, this and this, but then we found out that like it's actually worse on this, this and this. So we're going to try and split the difference and make, and you're like, oh, thank you. Thank you. So the way they did it was they went like complaint.
Starting point is 00:51:00 This is the, this is the problem. Paragraph explaining what you were just talking about. And then bold underline statement. This is the fix. Yeah. Right. If there was one for that. Right.
Starting point is 00:51:12 I also appreciate the difference between the tone of, let's say, remember, I remember when the Japanese translations were coming out for these Street Fighter updates, when they were taking that over in four versus the way Rising Thunder did it, where like we got that letter that would come in that would just be like, Hey guys, so people are using Dauntless's DP in ways that we didn't intend because of this. We never thought that you could use it to do this. You're supposed to be able to do these things with it and the pressure is supposed to be based on this type of gameplay.
Starting point is 00:51:37 So here we're taking that off. Yeah. You know, and it's like, no, no, no. This is very clearly explained. It makes a nerf a lot easier to deal with. And I think the worst ever, ever is the fucking Dark Souls patches because one recently came out and you get the phrase, like the following weapons have been adjusted. Yes.
Starting point is 00:51:55 Yes. And it's just a list. And then you have to go into the Dark Souls Reddit to find the real patch notes of the guy who has two versions of the game running. That's exactly what Street Fighter was, and that might just have to be with the Japanese way of handling that stuff. Fucking horrible. Just the word.
Starting point is 00:52:10 It might be a Japanese thing. It might be a part of patch notes and that some people are good and some people are bad at them and like, not going to get specific, but I remember when I was working on Thief bugging the patch notes because I was like, I was like, these patch notes are ridiculous. They're clearly written by someone who only speaks French, like the grammar is all over the place. Spelling is all over the place. They're hard to understand that you could understand them, but like phrasing would go
Starting point is 00:52:39 a long way here. And of course it was waved as it is a nothing bug. It's what once your game is shipped, you scrape for nothing bugs all day. Yeah. That's very normal. But it's just like, but like there is an art to patch notes and good and you know what that art isn't that art isn't various fixes have been implemented. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:59 I was going to say rings have been adjusted. Fuck. Yeah. I was going to say no man's guys patch notes have been very frustrating because when I just look at them on ps4, it just says like something something like that. And it's been, I think seven patches in a row where it's like various changes. Balance adjustments have been implemented. I have to give.
Starting point is 00:53:16 I want specifics. I want to know. Yeah. I want the nitty gritty of every potency and cool down change and fucking. And that's why Don of war patch notes deserve a fucking award. Yeah. They deserve an award. If you use those things, dude, get into decimal points.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Yeah. I remember. I also worked on one. They were amazing. So good. Unbelievable. Probably the best I've seen. So if you have a game that people are going to be theory crafting on, they need that data.
Starting point is 00:53:46 And if you don't sub, if you don't give them that data, which we know you have, you're just making them have to dig it out themselves, which they're going to do. And it's a bummer because like the first no man's sky patch had this exhaustive list with spoilers and all, which is great actually. But like when you look at it on a console, they just omit it and expect you to go to their website without telling you. You can just view them on the website. Right.
Starting point is 00:54:10 Right. Like if you would have just at least written view patch notes at X or whatever, as opposed to various changes have been who gives a fuck and it would go a long way. I want to give an extra special like thumbs down shout out to every game on steam or PlayStation four or Xbox one that updates and then you hit the patch note button and it shows you the last patch because there are no notes at all and you end up having to go to fucking the steam forum and and there's a there's a thread that goes that's called what did that patch do?
Starting point is 00:54:43 Yeah. What was the change here? No, totally. Equal equal to Dawn of War is I would say killer instinct because they run a stream. Yeah. To go. Yeah. Here's what's different killer.
Starting point is 00:54:55 It's amazing. And we're going to walk you through it. Yeah. You're not getting the numbers, but you are. Show you the application. You're getting the application. Yeah. That's what 14 does as well.
Starting point is 00:55:03 Like a live show where they'll go down like all the features and that's and then the nitty gritty ones are in the proper notes and every potency change of every move and all that stuff. And now you get you get keeps inventing the word berth on live on stream. It's not a buff. It's not a nerf. It's a berth. The weirdest one about the 14 ones is that it includes all the way at the bottom a list
Starting point is 00:55:25 of known issues. And it says like in this in this dungeon, occasionally you are going to fall through the world. We will fix it. But right now, the patch that we have right now, this thing is fucked. That's cool to be public. And some issues is always great. Some of them will be hidden because they're exploits. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:45 And you'll only find out about them in the fixed one of the next one. Right. And they're like, we fixed an exploit that allowed people to beat this boss without attacking it. But it's really good for like, you almost want to call it damage control, but it's not transparent because you see everyone being very understanding, even when they do talk about an issue like that. I can't believe I ran into this bug.
Starting point is 00:56:05 It's bullshit. It's totally the right word. And it's like, well, they actually warned you about that bug. We know how video games work, and we're not assuming that you think we're a magical factory that just spits out a disk. Like, let's be real. No, exactly. If you have other companies that have exhaustive, fantastic patch notes, send it into the email
Starting point is 00:56:27 so that we can have a good one at it, we'll applaud them. Let us know which 4x game has the best patch notes. Galsive. Let's have pretty good. Let's have the 2016 patches, patch awards. Patch note awards. Would Killer Instinct win that? K.I.
Starting point is 00:56:47 Maybe. Would probably win for 2016. Dawn of War 2 would win. I'd put FF14 out there. For whatever year that was. They're really good about it. Overwatch patch notes are fantastic. The video?
Starting point is 00:56:57 Well, not no. I mean, like, when the notes on the Blizznate and Lawshare, they go into the explanation behind every balance sheet. I really do think you need both to be truly great. Good notes count for a lot, good video counts for a lot, but not having one or the other, I would say not having the notes is worse than not having a video. Because you're not going to put the decimal points in the video. So you could still have a game with just the notes that's a contender if they were written
Starting point is 00:57:24 well enough and detailed enough and thoughtful. If it's a competitive game at that, you know what I mean? There's so much more there. The difference between, like, I remember in the Witcher Logs, it was like, fixed an issue in which such and such character would not spawn. That's a good one. Instead of fixed various quest progression errors with this quest. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:44 It's like, because if you're stuck on that quest, you can tell at a glance whether or not your issue is fucking fixed, and you can go back to the game. Instead of going back in and going, oh, it's actually still broken. Still not fixed. They fixed something later on. Yeah. So if you are going to send that and send it with, like, a word like patchy nomination or something.
Starting point is 00:58:02 How do you spell patchy? P-A-T-C-H-I-E? Or a Y. We can put a Y. I think a Y. Go with a Y. Y is more homie. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:11 So the patchy. Patchy awards. Or patchy with an S. Patchy with an I would be for the patch, just a lot of words. That's the problem. Yeah. I was about to say we can't go there. We can't go there.
Starting point is 00:58:20 Just make sure to spell it like the word patch. Because when he searches for the word patch, it'll get them all. But I'll be searching for nomination more than anything. But Titanfall too, man. Yeah, sorry. Yeah. Sorry for that super boring side. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:58:33 Absolutely. It was a good discussion. So the main thing, though, was I remember hearing about the changes to mounting and how is... Because rodeo's gone now? Rodeo's not gone. Okay. It's not gone.
Starting point is 00:58:48 It was just what I... And like I said, last time I hadn't played it, I was just reading off forums. Yeah. Rodeo's not gone. I had the impression that I played it and was lying, which I was like, no, I don't know where you're coming from. It's just really different, right? And it's really different because they've basically went from there being a system where
Starting point is 00:59:07 you mount an enemy Titan and then you shoot into it and do a ton of damage and then you jump off or you keep going or you ride on your ally Titan to a system where what you actually do is you jump on it, you steal a battery and then you are now holding a battery. You can then take that battery and go and give it to a friend Titan and keep his Titan alive longer. And that makes a difference in the game because you make a Titan in play. You keep a Titan in play longer, whereas originally Titans were kind of balanced to blow up fairly quickly if people are all just targeting your ass.
Starting point is 00:59:47 And so that, and when a Titan blows up, it drops batteries. There's different types of things that basically allow batteries to exist on that. When you steal a battery, does it reduce their lifespan, I imagine? Yes. You take away from their shield. How much? A decent chunk. Like 25, 30 percent?
Starting point is 01:00:04 About 33 to 40 percent. And if you jump on a Titan that's already has its battery stolen, you throw a grenade in there instead. And does that just... That just does damage. Oh, only damage. Okay. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:00:17 So, with the battery system, it expands on the gameplay a lot and it makes the interaction between being in and out of your Titan work, right? And the thing is too that because the game feels so good, you don't... If you're not in a Titan, you're super okay with that because you don't feel like you're crippled on being on foot. Yeah. No, the player characters feel incredible in Titan. Like they did in the first game too.
Starting point is 01:00:39 And they feel fucking amazing to just play that. You're able to do so much on foot. So being in there, in the middle of a scrap, it's a dangerous place to be, but there's so much you can do. And the fact that you have this whole battery system and even one where you're piloting your own Titan and you're running low, you jump out, grab a battery and put it back in your own Titan. Put it back in yours.
Starting point is 01:01:00 Yeah. And you are more willing than ever to jump out of your Titan now. And so that in itself is a whole thing. The actual Titan abilities are still very strong, but it feels like maybe just based on the way things are set up now, you don't have the ability to defend yourself is reduced in some ways. I remember reading that the map that they put out for the beta really emphasized long range fighting and such.
Starting point is 01:01:27 And thus they felt that it made close range stuff. And the Titan abilities feel less strong because it had... Again, I haven't actually played a match, but I hear it's filled with more wide spaces. Did you get to try out that sword Titan? No, that wasn't there. Damn it. Boomtown has a lot of cover and hallways in it, but then there's definitely an open field map where like you have, yes, snipers, rules.
Starting point is 01:01:52 Because I remember that was in that same blog post about that. Motherfucker. Maybe that has to do with that. I'm glad that the executions are in and there's new animations. Right now, the one that I actually, well the one I kept seeing was rip the arm off, use it to beat the Titan down, open up the cockpit and point blank fucking, like the barrel of the gun takes up the entire cockpit space and just fire. Like messy.
Starting point is 01:02:19 Fucking yeesh, man. Yeah, messy. That happens a couple times in Gundam and it's fucking rough every time. It's never going to not be rough. I haven't had a moment of dual eject into air battles with the one day, but one day. But it's, but what one thing that like you don't think of right away when it comes to the grappling hook is its application in battle, not just swinging around on the map, but grappling a Titan and pulling yourself towards it as it's rounding a corner.
Starting point is 01:02:52 Yeah, that makes sense. And so you just, you combine the fact that you can, you can use it as a weapon on people, but you can grapple on the back of an enemy Titan from far away or like grapple the drop ship to get away easier and stuff like that. And like, I can grapple the drop ship. That's cool. But like, but like you can slingshot from behind, way behind. Like if two Titans are fighting and you're behind your friendly, you can slingshot off
Starting point is 01:03:14 of your friendly over through the air onto the enemy over there because the physics pull you that way. Yeah. And that dude is like fucking euphoric. I don't know what to call it. Honestly, it makes me think of freedom wars a lot because like the level of freedom you get from a freely controllable grappling hook, like it's different from what you get from Spider-Man.
Starting point is 01:03:36 How's the, you know, it's a really air and aegre gameplay. Oh, well, that's the question is like, well, here's the thing because I was going to, in freedom wars, it's, it's a, um, it's a clock, a hook shot, right? Like it pulls you in at the line point, but do you ever swing with it? No, you don't swing. You just go to a point to point, but I just mean like it's, it's very different from like swinging and stuff like that. Having full control, like as the claw shot can only go on that air conditioner and fucking
Starting point is 01:04:03 nothing else in Zelda. Like it's point based, but like in freedom wars and Titanfall, it's on everything. It's fucking anywhere. And it feels really liberating to be able to just do anything with it. So what the, what the hook shot is in Titanfall is it's both a swinging and a pulling. Yeah, no, I do, depending on where you aim and how high above yourself, where you're where you're moving at the time. That's it.
Starting point is 01:04:26 Yeah. That's, that's what it is, you know? And so like that dude is the fucking addition of the year. Like it's the best. So when you're swinging because you aimed way higher than yourself, does that mean you, you retract it? You'll shoot upwards. Correct.
Starting point is 01:04:38 Absolutely. Okay. Good. Um, the, that has a really high learning curve right, right away. But then you get into the other shit that you can get, which is like, uh, it's because you pretty much like you almost, you almost only want to use the claw shot set up because it's like the others are really good. Stimpaks good or whatever, but fuck swinging is the best.
Starting point is 01:05:01 If you, uh, the, the, the hook shot or whatever the fuck it's called. Grappling hook is, is, uh, a secondary item as opposed to healing items or what have you, it's, it's every, every type of soldier that you pick. It's actually the look of your guy is that ability. Okay. And it's your main thing that that guy can do. So you use a class, so instead of, so instead of your medic, your grapple bro. Yes.
Starting point is 01:05:23 Your grapple guy is a class. Your stimpak guy is a class. Okay. Cause like I would, I would almost always play a medic in a game like that. Okay. But not having the grappling hook or grapple, you combine this with the ability to levitate while you aim down the sights in midair. And now we have a fucking video game.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Yeah. So at any point during your momentum ADS and you float, snipe in midair, do what you want to do. Do you stop, do you stop moving? Uh, you, you, you stop moving. Okay. You stop moving and then, you know, you, you, the, you find like, if your thing is charged up, find a new point to grapple to
Starting point is 01:05:58 otherwise continue on and that's, that's, that's been the, the, the general solution to all of these games that have like a huge amounts of player aerial movement and aiming is that you, you just come to a fucking dead stock wherever the hell you are as soon as you aim down your sights. And, and, um, this is getting, it's reminiscent of what Bionic commandos multiplayer was reaching. And I know you look up, but the truth is you would swing and snipe in midair and it was cool.
Starting point is 01:06:27 Yeah. Right. No, don't, I'm not, I'm not like looking up cause I'm like, yeah, I'm looking up cause like I had a fucking blast with that. It was so good and no one touched it. I played it. The skill ceiling is actually the most crazy. I played it right up until like, I couldn't find matches anymore, right?
Starting point is 01:06:42 Which is fast. Um, so you take that now and this is getting back to that moment of like, I'm floating and grappling, but get grapple battling with people. Uh, and there's all kinds of other stuff that you, that that's like the abilities you're going to get and whatnot. And it just makes this whole thing work because you eject from a blowing up Titan and everyone knows to look up and shoot your, shoot your corpse out of the sky, but if you float, you fuck that, you fuck up that trajectory.
Starting point is 01:07:11 You can eject and then immediately stop 1% into your eject. Do what you need to, like there's an animation of going up that you have to go a minimum to sure, but like, you can fuck up the momentum. Cause it's a bell curve of momentum. So everyone's camera goes way up and no one's there. You're down here, taking your shot and then you're gone. You know, it says a lot that we seem to be entering into a golden age of shooters because I mean this group is not the shooter group of dudes.
Starting point is 01:07:40 Dude. And like for years have been really boring overwatch and Titan fall. And for me, I don't know about you guys, but battlefield one looks like it does look very good. I'm not going to, but it looks fantastic in a very classic way. Like it, like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like, overwatch is the perfect. I'm going to come back to you every month for a day. I know you played it a bit.
Starting point is 01:08:06 We didn't really get super into them, but even call of duty, like it's gotten much more interesting. Like when you started, oh, absolutely. You go to advanced warfare, advanced warfare is super cool. Advanced warfare is super cool. Black ops three has a bunch of really cool stuff going on with this movement. Infinite warfare as well. In fact, seems to have even more going on with its movement with all the spaceship.
Starting point is 01:08:23 Like that's because we shooters went through this really weird trajectory where there was that period in like the nineties where hyper realistic shooters were super popular and like the counter strike style of like super, it's like super fast, super deadly, fuck you. But then they started to become more arcadey, but they still had all the fucking like simulation style rules of like, you can't double jump or you can't do it. And we're finally back to like double jump, quake level, like, nah, fucking teleport and double jump because have a robot when the big things were quake,
Starting point is 01:08:54 doom, unreal, then the realistic thing is different. Yeah. And then when realistic is everything, yeah, then it's refreshing to see, oh, look is doom. Yeah. Call of duty blew up too big and too big to fuck everyone. Thanks America's army. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:08 I still think Titanfall has the best post match thing ever. Epilogue. Yeah. Like killing floor has something similar, I guess, but like just, oh yeah, killing floor two is really good too. It just came out just like the drop shit thing is the fucking coolest. It's so good. So then the new main system of game, the new main gameplay system that they're
Starting point is 01:09:29 pushing in this demo as well is really weird because it's like the random AI grunts are still there and you can, and what the thing is, is you shoot them for money, right? When you take out another player, you get a lot of money. When you take out a grunt, you get like 10 bucks. That's fair. Right. The money that you're holding every, at the end of a, of a phase of AI, AI
Starting point is 01:09:49 enemies, once they're all killed, the, the phase ends and then you can go deposit that money in the bank for your team and you're trying to get your team up to $5,000. Sure. If you get killed by another player, they take half of what you're holding. This feels like a, a very, this feels like a specific mode. Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 01:10:07 Yeah. And it creates a really interesting dynamic because you're playing. Everyone is a flag. And kind of everyone's kind of a flag. Some people will have bounties on their heads because they've got a lot of money and stuff like that. And ultimately you are like, you're, you can focus on the AI and then hide, but at some point going to deposit that means some dudes waiting at the bank to take
Starting point is 01:10:32 you out. Yeah. And you've got to deal with that threat, you know, and so it just, it changes a lot of the dynamic and it's, it's a really fun new way to play like a shooter. It's, it's kind of, it's very different. And I, and it might be something seen in other games that I'm not familiar with. Yeah. But this is the first time I've ever seen anything like it.
Starting point is 01:10:47 That'll feel hard. Depositing. Dude, devil's third has like 12 gameplay modes, which is awful. Cause you just fragment your user base like nothing else, but like devil's third did everything. Okay. Okay. Also the servers that you connect to are just straight up like networks named that
Starting point is 01:11:09 were created by whoever wants to make one. So like you see like leading like giant bombs, Titanfall network is one of the big ones IGN up there, you know, like achievement hunter or whatever. Makes sense. Yeah. So like, here's a question. Where are you going to play this game? Where?
Starting point is 01:11:27 Yeah. As in on PS4 or on PC? I'm going to go full PC. You're going to go PC? Yeah. It's, it was, I was enjoying the piece, the PS4 Super weird. Cause you and I never, ever play Overwatch together ever. I don't even think I have you on my fucking bad that account, but we should
Starting point is 01:11:44 probably, I should probably add you to that. Yeah, let's do it. Uh, and it's like for Titanfall as well. Cause you're better at Titanfall. I'm, I've been, I've been getting, I've been going full Overwatch. Yeah. Esports, Esports, sports, sports, sports, sports. Esports.
Starting point is 01:12:01 I've fallen off a little bit. I'm waiting for the, the new patch to come out that has the, uh, the new map. So I don't play on the PTR cause I fucking hate that. I've been playing on the PTR. Oh, you're sick. We've been practicing. You're fucking sick. We've been practicing, man.
Starting point is 01:12:13 It's, it's coming together. Fucking PTR. Now that I, for the first time in my life, I feel like I'm playing the game. You're a fucking piece of shit. It's the worst. You're, I'm not going to defend it. I'm not going to defend it. If you thought I was going to come here and defend it, you're fucking wrong.
Starting point is 01:12:29 Like for real, how is your left wrist? It is more than fine because it's a Weemote. Oh, it's your, what? It feels like you're doing what it feels like a Weemote. Okay. Explain to the people. Here's what's going on guys. All right.
Starting point is 01:12:42 So I was playing Overwatch on the PC human garbage with a controller, like a madman. Right. Pause for dramatic effects. Like you, you were at a stated disadvantage. Has everyone stopped recoiling? Good. All right. No way I'm assist on the PC.
Starting point is 01:12:57 No. Why would there be the, the sensitivity? It would be too good. The sensitivity or too bad when Genji double jumps. The assist pushes away. Mei is stronger on the console. Uh, yeah. So you got, uh, you got this whole thing where you put the sensitivity to the highest on
Starting point is 01:13:12 a controller and you hold left or right and you're still not turning as fast as you would with a mouse, right? You're just at a disadvantage. Uh, I started to feel that really hard. Very clearly. Well, yeah. All right. And, and it's like, and so the, the claim that it doesn't matter just playing Reinhardt.
Starting point is 01:13:25 No, it's not true because even as Reinhardt, your shield. Will not turn around as quickly as you want it to, right? So, uh, and furthermore, like the spinning of your hitbox when you're swinging, you're swinging your hammer, your hitbox has corners. No, I want to get those corners out. Anyone who ever claimed that for any first person shooter has always been full of shit and you should have never listened to them in the first. No, mouse and keyboard is better for FPS.
Starting point is 01:13:47 Cause the mouse is faster. Yes. So yes, it's not, it's not as comfortable for a lot of people, but, and for other games, it's different, but for an FPS, it's not, it's not like, no, there's no debate. Yeah. There's no, this is unlike, unlike stick versus pad on a fighting game where that you can do relatively the same or a stealth game.
Starting point is 01:14:05 Right. Keyboard, you don't want keyboard for a stealth game versus a stick, right? But actually, uh, chaos, uh, chaos theory had a really, really fantastic, uh, mouse and keyboard control set up. We use the scroll wheel to, to make him move faster. Oh, really? It was, it was really precise. Do you remember Hitman one on the keyboard?
Starting point is 01:14:25 Dude, yeah, you had a radio of walk buttons. It's that went from slow walk to normal to run. Yeah. Expanding out from your WASD. It was madness. Yeah. Um, anyway, so what, so I jump on the mouse and keyboard, but here's the thing. You know my setup.
Starting point is 01:14:44 I'm on a couch. I've got an arm rest. I bought this couch that we're sitting on for mouse and keyboard play. And that's why I had this big arm rest. I see that fat arm. I sat, I sat down and checked all of them until I was like, yeah, and I put, and I put my feet up and I can balance my keyboard perfectly on my lap. So it's fine.
Starting point is 01:15:00 I've ever thought about it once because why the fuck would I, you have a squishy couch and I don't play first person shooters. So why would I care about that? Right? Well, you do now. Now I'm in there and I'm like, this is not working and I'm using my mouse and I'm using my keyboard and the mouse is, I'm, I'm, I'm like, all right. That's there.
Starting point is 01:15:16 That's fine. The keyboard's kind of flopping the keyboards flopping and I can't, I have the problem or I can't fucking reliably get my hand on WASD. You don't, you don't have your home keys burned in and I, exactly. And I know that it's like, yeah, well, you're a scrub. You don't have enough practice on it. I understand you're right. It's true, but I'm just not comfortable in the middle of that sea of keys and I
Starting point is 01:15:37 know how to type no problem and I can find the little indentation, but, but, but like your, your two handed home keys are not the same as your left hand. And it matters so much more. So when I'm, I, when I accidentally press E instead of W, that's a problem. Yeah. Right. And I know that you can put the little stickers to kind of, you know, do whatever and whatnot, but ultimately I'm like, this is still on my lap and it's
Starting point is 01:15:56 not comfortable. So you would have to go through a relatively significant learning process. My next step was house keypads, guys. Anyone ever do that thing? And I asked about it to people send some answers. They're not great. And I, it seemed like either were at least two types that would have been okay for me.
Starting point is 01:16:13 However, they're both made for tables. They're not made for your lap. No. You know, the way you're, you're, are your wrist wraps around it. Like you want the phantom lap board. Uh, I saw one of those. I saw one of the, the crazy dinner tray fucking set up so you could get going. And I was like, Oh God, please don't, don't let me have to stoop to this level.
Starting point is 01:16:34 Then one game, jokingly, after fucking going, everyone's like, I'm playing with the guys and they're like, so how's it going? Willie on the keyboard. I'm like, I fucking hate it. Right. And at one point I, it's, it's, it's terrible because you can feel the power in your left hand, but you can feel the jank in your left. It's so bad.
Starting point is 01:16:51 Sorry. You feel the power in your right hand. You can feel the jank in your left hand. And I, I'm like, my, my pinky's on left shift and like, I don't mean to tap it, but I do accidentally. And then I do a right heart charge and I'm like, fuck everything about this. I'm done. I grabbed the controller again, but I don't let go of the mouse.
Starting point is 01:17:10 And I, and I'm like, hold on a minute. Do you, do you like lie the controller on my lap? Okay. Yeah. All right. And I'm like, hold on a minute. The game is letting me do this and continue to look around. So, but the HUD is freaking out.
Starting point is 01:17:26 The HUD is freaking the fuck out because every time you hit a button, it tries to switch to the other one and it's doing it the whole time, right? But I'm like, but I'm moving and I'm shooting and it's working. Hold on a minute. Take a moment, refigure it out. See what I can do to make the buttons I need appear in the places they should be. And then you get that ridiculous screenshot that I posted of this is
Starting point is 01:17:50 Woolies configs for Overwatch. Uh, and it worked and it felt good. Here's the problem though. Yeah. It became immediately apparent that having your D pad set to your E and your left shift is stupid because you have to take your thumb off the stick to use. That's right. The biggest flaw in the, in the game.
Starting point is 01:18:06 Yeah. Right. So immediately after posting, oh my God, is that how it is on controller? No. Have in the D pad with your, no, no, no, no, no, not by default. Okay. It's, it's not, it's, it's shoulder button, but because he only has one half of the controller, I lose his face.
Starting point is 01:18:20 I lose those faces. But so, so immediately after posting that within the hour, I get up, I go over to Best Buy, I buy myself some fucking e-sports headphones and I get a mouse with more buttons on it. Yeah. Right. More button mass was always going to be one of the paths that you were on. Like, uh, where the fuck is my mouse?
Starting point is 01:18:37 Like my mouse has it's like two extra buttons on the side and, but you only really need one of those. And it's, it's helps. So I get, and I didn't, I didn't go for one of those crazy ass transformer robot thingies. No, those are too much. You don't need that. You don't want the razor Naga or whatever.
Starting point is 01:18:53 It wasn't that that was, that was for MMOs or whatever. Like, I just got the one that has the two extras on the side where your thumbs go and that's ability one and ability two. Yeah. That's fine. And so where your thumbs go on the side of the mouse, both of them. And then here's the question is, you know, Titan falls a button layout. It is way more involved than overwatches.
Starting point is 01:19:16 And like, is this going to work? I don't know, but I'll figure it out because there's a couple of problems you're going to run into. Yeah, that's a, that's a severe lack of buttons. Cause if you're using mouse controls, mouse controls are built to only have like two or three buttons on the mouse and have everything else be on the keyboard. I'm using the wheel as well.
Starting point is 01:19:32 Yeah. But still, right? Wheel down, we'll press and like overwatch is really fantastic with its controller support that has the quick switch, but it's so simple in the game. But not all games are going to do that are going to switch for some games. You're going to set to one or the other and this thing isn't going to work. Yeah. Um, so I would still highly suggest that you, you drill down and, and, and, and,
Starting point is 01:19:54 and work on mass and keyboard. Cause this is, you're going to hit a game that you really want to play. It's a skill and you can put that on your resume and you're not going to be able to play it in the way that you want. So, uh, the main fear I had with this, like the first Witcher came. Yeah, like the first Witcher, the main fear I had with this was the same problem I had with like learning a weird arcade stick was the moment it broke. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:15 Cause you used to knock tag and okay. Yeah. And every, and you know, you'd forget your stick or the moment you don't have your setup and all of a sudden you'd be like, you're done. I can't do my thing on every one else's stick. It's, it's, you're done. You're fucking done. And I don't want that to happen to me again, but I did see that like, uh,
Starting point is 01:20:34 even without that, all the buttons on the, on the mouse, there is, remember that? So did you see that creepy thing? I posted, which is the PS two mouse pad, attached to it, fucking thing or PS three thing. That's real and that company exists and they have been refining their product over the years and they now have it down to what is essentially a nunchuck. Okay. And you're doing that always.
Starting point is 01:20:55 It's a USB nunchuck and I might just be going that way. What's it called? Uh, cause I want to, I want to pull this up and get a look at it. Damn it. I forget the name, but good job. That was a really good segment, but I mean, if you, I'm sure they appreciate the plug. Well, yeah, I haven't, I haven't gotten the actual thing yet, but it's like,
Starting point is 01:21:12 it's like, if you, if you look up like PS three, uh, mouse controller and then you find that company's picture of their product and then you find their new stuff, it's, it's just a nunchuck for PC on USB. This thing. No, uh, so you're looking at, uh, I'm looking at the split fish frag effects PS three split, okay. Splitfish is the company. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:21:33 This thing is a nightmare. So this thing, uh, that's an older one, but that's one. Okay. But effectively, but that's effectively that. Yeah. It's basically like a split fish is the company. They have a couple of versions, they have a couple of versions of it, buddy. Um, really, this is sad.
Starting point is 01:21:51 You're really in there, huh? I, you're, this is, uh, like, like this thing, that's, that's the one. That's a fucking path you got going on though. The main deal is my, a thumb going up, down, left, right on the stick is for me better than WASD is. Yeah. Well, it, well, it is better period because your stick has, it's an, it's an analog control system versus a digital control stuff.
Starting point is 01:22:16 It is better. And the reason why that's okay for WASD is because the mouse is infinite analog, three 16, both accesses. Yes. So that, that totally makes up for any of that, that digital movement. But the, the, the primary strength of the keyboard is that your fingers can move one centimeter and hit like six extra keys. It's like a hit box and you have all the extra buttons.
Starting point is 01:22:40 Yeah. It's like a hit box. E, Q, Z, X, C, F, and E also shift. Like, I don't know the layout of the keyboard, but I can do that in my brain because that's a whole extra controller's worth of buttons within a centimeter. My brother originally had something that looked like a mouse, but it was stationary and at the tips of the fingers were all these extra buttons. And you had the thing like that.
Starting point is 01:23:06 That's a weird thing. I'm probably not going to do, but what's nice is freaking people out by slow walking on the PC version, which is something that nobody can do because everyone just hits the key. So there you go. What the fuck, woolly? Are you, are you disconnected? Are you still there?
Starting point is 01:23:19 What's happening? And I'm like, I'm just walking slow. Yeah. Anyway, I'm, I'm right now, I wish, I wish you luck, but I worry about like, say Titanfall specifically about your future and the truth. And the truth is, is I'm going to take it a step at a time and do what needs to win when it, when it come to that bridge and if you find a game that you're like, I want to play this, but my options don't work.
Starting point is 01:23:45 You're going to try and figure out a different like lap board or I'll figure something out or a little tray set up or something. I'm never going to be fucking sitting on the stage fighting, uh, uh, whatever, not group, not whatever the nine, what group Nazis? No, no, what are the, what are the nine? Day nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, nine, you know, or whatever. Like they, like I saw the ESL invitation. Oh, there was some crazy strats that were going down on that thing.
Starting point is 01:24:12 And I'm watching competitive, but I'm never going to fucking be at that point. So yeah, no, watching, oh, like Overwatch competitive makes me feel like shit. Like I'm not, I'm like, it's a fucking different game, any shooter competitive, it's a different game, but I learned so much from it or just watching seagull videos, man, that dude's fucking crazy. Anyway, I remember there was a video for Overwatch that came out like relatively early. It was like an, it was a El Dorado map overview and it's, and it
Starting point is 01:24:36 showed off that little ledge that you can jump over with Genji and Reaper to get in the back of the first point. And I remember just like my brains, that's there. That's how I lost the past 10 matches on that map. I didn't know that thing existed. The game is so offense heavy that when you learn how to defend properly, it's night and day. It's weird.
Starting point is 01:24:55 It's night and day. Well, like what's the fucking, God, what's the Kingsway on Kingsway? My favorite still, because I mostly play as Farah is right at the end where, uh, when you're attacking, you drop in the hole and you boost back out the whole next to the capture point. Right. Okay. That's still my favorite one.
Starting point is 01:25:12 So now on the new, I've never seen that on the new map, yeah, there's a hole where you can do that. It's that similar thing. Jump in the death hole, keep, hover, hover, hover, boost out the other hole and kill everyone. Only her and I bet Diva could do it. Probably Diva could probably be a fee to be if Farah, it's really reliable.
Starting point is 01:25:30 Shout outs to the junkrat that did a chain pull on a nerf this that was about to imagine you mean roadhog. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry. Otherwise, it's really, really good junkrat. I keep, I always fucking say, well, they're the same like class type like roadhog jumps, jumping or getting blasted into the pit hole before he dies, sees a nerf this
Starting point is 01:25:50 Diva mine pulls her in with a, that's the real Reinhardt like savior moment there. But anyway, yeah, cause it's really selfless. Cause it's like, no, it's mine. Give it to, oh, I will take if he would have done it like a fraction of a second. He would later, he would just would have killed everyone. Yeah. Right. Cause he would have pulled it.
Starting point is 01:26:08 They would have died anyway. He would have pulled it to Daisy cutter level and it would have just murdered everyone. They would, they would have died. I don't think that's unsafe fully. They would have died anyway. He didn't, I'm just Josh because, because of the Reinhardt thing with Josh and him.
Starting point is 01:26:21 Um, yeah, sure as you're good now. Yeah, man. I'm enjoying them and I don't know what's happening to this world. It's so fucking not what I expected, but I'm playing an MMO. You're playing shooters and I'm not, I'm playing shooters on the patch build. Yeah. To find out what the patches are like, and I'm thinking it's like, I just made fun of you for playing on the PTR, but I'm thinking like if 14 had a PTR like
Starting point is 01:26:51 wow has a PTR, I would live on that fucking thing. Dude, you want to know. You need to know it's like, I remember there. The PTR currently has a bug with the way rankings work with healers and it's super fucked up in that if you're, if you say, say you play Lucio entirely, you don't, but say you do, right? And you go on with your team of your friends and you do your 10 placement matches, right?
Starting point is 01:27:13 For season two, right? Uh, your friends, if you're a decent team, your friends will all be ranked higher because healer skill is, is contingent on amount healed. And if your team is doing well, you can't heal. Oh, interesting. So you'll end up getting ranked lower and then you will not be able to play with them because you're not in the same category and they're, they're like, okay, we got to fix this.
Starting point is 01:27:38 This is fucking stupid. That's going to take some thinking. Yeah. Well, the way they do play the game and the way they determine like, uh, like how good you're doing in your given classes, uh, how much you're on fire a lot of the time and fire you gain, then it comes down to like what causes each character to become on fire and then you get like a roadhog. I'm pretty sure one of his things is taking damage, gives him fire, but dying
Starting point is 01:28:02 wipes some of his fire. So as long as you're getting hit, I think that's right around hard shield. As long as that's getting hit, but you're not actually dying, your fire goes right, right, right. Um, that would make sense given what the intended use of the character is. Uh, but yeah, that was pretty much me, man. Okay. So, uh, Matt'll tell us about his fantastic cruise and vacation next week.
Starting point is 01:28:22 Uh, and so I guess we're into the news. Did it, did it, did it, did it. No, I was going to do a Mr. caffeine thing. No, you got to do it. I've been thinking about Mr. caffeine a lot lately. You know, we talked about him recently and very recently like boy, his script
Starting point is 01:28:36 was a mess too. In fact, we talked about, um, eight minutes ago. Oh, that was when it went live. Yeah. That's yeah. About eight minutes ago, Mr. caffeine pull back that curtain a little. Hey, Pat, so it's getting, it's getting a little ashy in here.
Starting point is 01:28:51 Get a little ashy. A little ashy. Well, that's a, that's a ash. Yeah. Lots of ash. Yeah. I'm coding the surfaces here. I got to get some moisturizer.
Starting point is 01:29:00 Could that, could that be the ashes of Ariandel? It could be. Boy, that, that looks good. That, that DLC trailer for the dark souls looks good. And yes, lucky Ted will return to continuous adventures. This time he'll be properly named lucky Ted. I got to get that character up to speed, but, uh, the dark souls community is like powering up over time and the dark souls franchise or whatever, this,
Starting point is 01:29:28 this exact method of making games has to start to go away because like the speed at which people tore this trailer apart was like in 10 minutes. Oh, people had, people had figured out where it is, how you access it, what item lets you go there, who that character is, what set is that guy wearing? And just like, for a second, sorry, I thought you were talking about how the world is so, everyone's so huge that it's like a warning incoming game and everyone is just beefed up, standing around the cube, waiting for the DLC to drop and it's like, it has no chance.
Starting point is 01:30:04 People are going to tear through that like, like, everyone's huge. All you see is deltoids from space. Like, depending on how huge lucky Ted is, we might be able to blow it out in like one day. Like the old hunters was really hard, but even then that didn't stop anyone. Yeah. Ludwig stopped a bunch of people.
Starting point is 01:30:23 Ludwig stocked a bunch of people because they were on stupid new, new game plus levels that made it ridiculous. Not to mention the party cave with blood starved in friends. Yeah. Looks really cool. What is going on in this trailer? This is a, this trailer shows off a snowy area. It shows off a painter little girl that's going to be probably core to it.
Starting point is 01:30:45 It shows off a guy in the four sworn set going like, Hey man, you got to go down to this place and show my lady flame. It shows off, uh, some bosses, one of which is like flagellating themselves. A couple of bosses we've seen before. Uh, the trailer has bosses we've seen before and, uh, there, there's like a very royal theme along the bosses that are in that trailer, which makes you think like, Oh, was that boss at the very end of that little montage, possibly part of royalty that has been absent from all of the games.
Starting point is 01:31:16 Like Nameless King is a boss that has been mentioned, but was never there. And this might be the other one that is mentioned, but was never there. We thought they were there, but they weren't. Um, we get to see a Lord vessel. Yeah. You get to see like a big giant gold one. Uh, there's a lot of cool stuff in there. And when, uh, when we did DS three, uh, the LP, we were talking about the DLC
Starting point is 01:31:39 from time to time, it's like, I bet that one of those DLCs is going to be something more totally new and one of them is going to be a place we've already been like explicitly, like the way the Anor Londo thing is. And this is that second one. This is absolutely a place we have already been 100%. They use a goddamn, one of the preview screenshots is like the same as one of the dark souls, one preview screenshots. It's even framed the same.
Starting point is 01:32:05 Uh, I'm very excited to go back to that location. Also walls. Did you see the wolves? The wolves wolves. I didn't know. I watched the trailer like once. I didn't, there's all, I didn't pour through it. I watched it and I wasn't even really watching it.
Starting point is 01:32:18 I was like, I don't give a fuck. This is, I'm going to buy this. I'm going to play. What is this trailer matter? It doesn't even matter. It doesn't even matter. Like the thing of note. I don't find dark souls trailers interesting because like what I like about
Starting point is 01:32:32 dark souls is the like the, the sent, the desire to explore and the trailers don't give me that at all. It's a quick montage of like fast snap cuts and stuff. You enemy. Uh, I don't know. They're like the dark souls trailers don't excite me. The only thing about that wolf is that there is the shot of the wolves and there's a shot of a wolf like howling.
Starting point is 01:32:53 Yeah. And the trees next to that wolf are really small. Yeah. And you're like, huh, right? The wolf. Yes. I remember that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:01 The tree, like, I'm like, oh, that's a wolf. And then I look at the trees and the trees are like really tiny. I'm like, uh, huh. I really want like their last dark souls DLC. You know, they've all been great. Right. I really want the last one to just be the like, we give up DLC where there's just like, it's all just heavily reused stuff and there's a room where you
Starting point is 01:33:20 fight for dancers at once. Like it's just the, the we give up DLC that was a fuck you were out of this bitch. That was the second DS2 DLC. Perhaps. Fight smelter demon again. I never went back. That was not fun.
Starting point is 01:33:38 Um, but you did, you get, you did get the cool sort though there. Yeah. Uh, fucking there's a Viking in that trailer, man. Yeah. Looks cool. He uses a cool variant of the, the, the prayer, uh, explosion move that looks like firestorm, uh, looking forward to it, not much to say other than it looks really good.
Starting point is 01:33:56 It's, it's coming out. It'll be coming out on October 21st. I was 25th, 25th, please look forward to the LP. It'll probably, the Dark Souls LP will probably come back right after shitstormer, maybe a week later. Yeah. Uh, cause that'll give us time to, to build up. Let's take a little time.
Starting point is 01:34:10 Yeah. Cause, uh, probably going to do the whole thing and then upload it. What? No. Why would we do that? I don't know. Why would we do that? We, we, we cherish, if you enjoyed the Dark Souls three LP at all, uh, you
Starting point is 01:34:26 should check out Google. Amazing animation of the lucky Ted adventures. That was good stuff. That's Googley Gareth on the YouTube. Funny enough, not even focusing as much on like the skeleton ball. Is your thing? Well, there's a little bit, but it's just a force is a three second loop. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:43 Well, as stupid as it is, the moment that he animated, it's my favorite part of the whole LP. It's so ridiculous. It's so, it's so nice. It's pretty goof. And that was the first episode. Uh, oh my God, it was the first session. That's true.
Starting point is 01:34:55 That's true. Hmm. Interesting. The second favorite moment is in the second episode, which is, uh, a mimicon. It's all downhill from there. Yes. Yeah, pretty much.
Starting point is 01:35:05 Uh, I didn't see this one coming, but, uh, PlayStation now coming to PC. That's fucking weird. Yeah. That's, uh, I guess, you know, and fucking finally dual shock for a USB wireless adapter. Yeah. That's a cool one. God damn it.
Starting point is 01:35:21 It took you long enough. So associated with that is not the ability to plug in the, to do an X input dry and driver, which sucks on that. Um, and the recent windows anniversary, uh, uh, update on windows 10 broke DS, DS four tool and input mapper. Uh, there are a couple ways you can fix it. And I had to look for a while to find this. So the easiest way to fix this, to fix exclusive mode and DS four tool or
Starting point is 01:35:50 input mapper, any of those is to find whatever your PS four controller is in your device manager, stop the program you're running, disable it, and then re-enable it. And as long as it's connected and you don't restart your computer, it will work fine with exclusive mode. Wouldn't it be like hilariously petty if like after this came out, windows updates just always broke Sony's official software? That's what Tim, that's what Tim Sweeney has been talking about.
Starting point is 01:36:14 That's what he's been predictive. He's been saying that the windows like conveniently breaks like third party applications and going forward, it's going to conveniently break. That being said, this is a bug with windows 10 and like it's, it's, it's file name path or whatever. And it, it has been an ongoing thing for the entirety of windows 10. Every other patch fixes or breaks it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:34 God fucking damn it. I thought I had it in my notes, but it's gone. There is, because I find that like the, that being said, you don't need that wireless adapter. You can use any youth Bluetooth adapter. So here's, well, here's the thing. I was going to say that like one, uh, just plugging in a USB B cable into that and then plugging it into your computer and getting drivers would have
Starting point is 01:36:53 been the right way to go about this. But that does, that does work. Like it currently, it currently works for remote play on PC. Yeah. Uh, it will, it will currently download a driver, but that's not the driver you want. You want the bootleg driver, the tricks things and most games, at least the games on steam and stuff don't work directly with that.
Starting point is 01:37:15 No, no, I'm just, I'm just saying that if you boot the remote play PC application that Sony developed, it prompts you to plug one in. There, because it does, it is a direct input device and you can program your game to work. Okay. No man's sky, uh, FF 14 and Witcher three, to my knowledge, all work natively with the PS4 controller. And there's, uh, they, they brought out a patch for FF 14.
Starting point is 01:37:39 I think last year that gave you PlayStation button prompts, even PS4 button prompts, they, uh, which was before PS4 controller support was added, which was the really weird one because a lot of people must have been playing it with DS4 tool or something. Uh, and Witcher three to my, uh, the patch that's supposed to come out today adds PS4 controller prompts if you want to. So it's becoming a lot more common over time. I think shovel night actually also, maybe, uh, but it's never going to be as
Starting point is 01:38:09 ubiquitous, it's not universal. It's not universal, uh, so you're always going to want your either X box X 360 CE or input mapper or, uh, fucking, uh, DS4 tool. Well, there's a, there's a, there's a thing out there. And this is what I was going to bring up. Uh, there's a, there's a program called, uh, toca edit, uh, Xbox 360 controller emulator, emulator. And this thing is used at the, um, the weekly street fighter meetups that we
Starting point is 01:38:35 go to and they have all PC copies of street fighter five playing and everyone plugs in whatever the fuck they're holding and they all work. So dual shocks go in, PS4 sticks go in, PS3 sticks go in, anything. And this thing remap, it, it takes all of it and remaps toca edit, TOCA edit. And it re emulate, and it takes it and it emulates an X input 360 controller. And it fucking works, man. And like having seen this setup work on again, eight stations, people sitting down with the weirdest shit and it's all been fine.
Starting point is 01:39:14 Like this looks like, uh, this looks like, uh, uh, something similar to X 360 CE. Actually it is. Yes. It, oh yeah. No, it is X 63. Yeah. I just didn't know that it was called TOCA edit. Okay.
Starting point is 01:39:27 No, this thing's awesome. It's amazing. This thing's awesome. It's so good. Um, it, uh, basically what it does is that when you, when you set it up properly, you plug it in and you run the DLL and it'll create a personalized emulation batch for that particular device. And your guys must have set it up with like 10 different fucking things
Starting point is 01:39:45 that they can plug in whatever, whatever you need. Uh, that thing's great. It's what I was using for Dark Souls three when, uh, DS four tools stopped working. Okay. Yeah. Um, I, I, I stand by that. I've seen it work and you know, it works because when the program, uh, turns
Starting point is 01:40:00 on, you hear like that little ping that it, that it's hard to where it's been plugged in. Exactly. The only problem with it, there's only one problem with that compared to the other ones is that say DS four to an input mapper, take your, uh, direct inputs and turn them into X inputs and then translate them into regularized inputs. And then go to the game X three 60 CE reads your in game inputs and then translates them via a DLL into the proper inputs. And some games like Dark Souls can occasionally freak out because it's
Starting point is 01:40:40 actually touching the game, whereas the other ones are completely separate. Oh, okay. Like in a fighting game, it doesn't matter, but in games that have really particularly stringent anti cheat. Yeah. It is actually touching the game a little bit and it can freak out. People did report they were got banned from a 360 CE on Dark Souls. I'm not sure if that's accurate because every time you see somebody say they got
Starting point is 01:41:03 banned for something, it turns out they were cheating. They always omit the trainer on the side. Yeah, but external software is a little more internal. Okay. Interesting. Oh, but there's a lot of options now and they, they work a lot better than they used to even the workaround for the, for tool and input mapper is not that big of a hassle anymore.
Starting point is 01:41:23 The, I mean, the impression I got when I, when we were using it was that it was straight up just emulating a controller and not at all touching the game. But yeah, well, the, the issue that I had with, with 360 CE is when I was using for Street Fighter five, because I was using it to get my Hori sticks to work with it is that if I had Hori sticks on it and I plugged in a Hori stick and then I plugged in a 360 stick right next to it, occasionally they would not play nice together, right? Because the DLL was about translating direct input next input, but then I
Starting point is 01:41:53 had X input and it would get weird, but there's workarounds. If you spend a little more time, the guys at your meetup probably spent a lot of time like making it perfect. Cause it's worth it. Yeah. Cause it's worth it. Uh, it's, it's, it's fucking great. And like the, the best part about it is that when you run it in the games
Starting point is 01:42:10 directory, have you ever had hands on with it or you just use it as just, I just use it at the stations when you run it in the games directory, it's all like user created templates. So it'll, it'll search their database and go, Oh, here's the config that you use for Shadow of Mordor or here's the config that you're supposed to use for RE five and you go, and it'll just search from their database and you click, okay, and that's perfect. But if you want, you can change it and you can change it at a base level.
Starting point is 01:42:36 Right. Right. Yeah. That's a good, that's a good ass program. But, uh, in general though, um, yeah, PS now you can stream PS games and we'll see how that works. I think that's cool that you can play places in games on PC. I don't think I'll ever use it.
Starting point is 01:42:51 Yeah. PlayStation now does actually work really well with a good, like I did test it when it, when it first came out on Vita and stuff, just to try it. I should test it with my internet. Yeah, it's, it's, I have fiber. So it's, it's like, yeah, I'm going to be in the most optimal of conditions. It's worth testing, pay for a four hour, like, whatever, trip through Resident Evil four code Veronica.
Starting point is 01:43:11 Yeah, sure. Well, code Veronica is great because it's not like that actiony of a game at the same time. If you don't have like really solid controls, you can't kill all those zombies at the beginning with the knife. Well, so I, I, I tried a couple games just out of curiosity over time. I think I spent like a grand total of like $10 on like rentals. I tried Resident Evil five the first day it came out and there were some
Starting point is 01:43:34 connection foibles on the first day that I noticed. And then I played Resident Evil four a little while later and it was, it was a significantly better experience. The best experience I ever had was ironically not with a great game and it was when it came out for the Vita, I was like, okay, uh, it's a wireless connection, no matter what I do, like the connection is going to be a little worse because of this. I played Final Fantasy 13 and downloaded my complete save and just went and ran
Starting point is 01:44:00 around and stuff. And it was great for RPGs. It was really good for RPGs. Barf and house. And so the most immaculate experience I've had streaming was streaming Yomi from my PC to my tablet, because it's a fucking card game. Yeah. And anything that's like an RPG or a card game or just fucking do it or whatever.
Starting point is 01:44:17 It's fine. Exactly. But, uh, I mean, it's, it's a cool thing that exists that I'm probably never going to use. No, but if, if you're out there and you only have a PC, you can pay, you can get your free 14 day thing and beat last of us. It's a, it's a really like Microsoft is shockingly to me going forward and putting everything on PC.
Starting point is 01:44:42 It's what I've been asking for for like a decade, right? And their, their universal Windows platform is definitely not the best, but it's getting, it's getting there. It'll be fine eventually. Right. It's not games from Windows live too. When I said that, I was, I was busy. No, it, it, um, there's been some shit, but it told, and this is a nice, like
Starting point is 01:44:59 Sony variant of like, well, we don't own the fucking Windows platform. So we can't do that. Yeah. Um, let's do something. And that's this, these are both great. Definitely. It has become a lot easier to just own a PC as a result of these, these things. If you have, if you have really good internet.
Starting point is 01:45:17 I, I, how interesting would it be to see like, uh, PSVR on like Sony TVs? Could you imagine that? Well, you, you would need, didn't they sell their TV division or they did sell it? I think. Okay. Yeah, I'm not sure. But even then you need the hardware, which isn't, isn't, it's not in the TVs. Even to just stream the video and then like take USB input.
Starting point is 01:45:42 Well, I mean, like, like, what do you mean PSVR on a TV then? Cause if you want to play a game or whatever, you need the guts of the, that runs it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 01:45:52 That's true. Right. Right. Um, cause if you mean streaming VR, that sounds like a recipe for throwing up. No, no, no, no, no. Yeah. Uh, uh, I find it interesting that streaming games is like going to be this,
Starting point is 01:46:03 this big push and then VR is becoming the new big push and those tech, that tech is completely incompatible. Yeah. That will never fucking work. Yeah. Uh, I misspoke. Okay. I meant to say PlayStation now on your time.
Starting point is 01:46:18 It is on TV. Yeah. It is on TVs. It is. Oh, it is directly. Smart TVs have it already. Oh, okay. And you know what?
Starting point is 01:46:23 That's a, that's a good idea. That's smart. Hotels have it too. Some hotels. That's a great idea because for people that don't play a lot of games, they just fucking put it in control. And, and as far as hotel video gaming is concerned, this fucking makes those N64s completely obsolete.
Starting point is 01:46:38 Oh God, you remember those like hotel fucking quarters in the N64. Yeah. Exactly. Play radical dreamers fucking fuck. Yeah. And the weird, like hybrid, not quite an N64 controller. Were those called like LodgeNet or something? Oh, uh, home, home sweet slot.
Starting point is 01:46:56 Ah, God, whatever. Anyway, yeah, fuck those. It's like, I don't want my N64 controller with a menu button on it. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, I wonder if the USB receiver they're going to put out with that is also a unified Bluetooth receiver. It's worth this because the Bluetooth receiver I have sucks.
Starting point is 01:47:12 Oh yeah. And I would like a better one that is Sony branded that officially works with controller. Uh, what's nice is that if you do get this whole PC controller set up going, you can finally perhaps use it to enjoy Mortal Kombat XL on PC. Yeah. Cause the beta very, very surprised. The beta came out of nowhere and is live right now.
Starting point is 01:47:36 Very surprised. You know what? At least they did it. Yeah. At least they did it. Yeah, no, it's great. So they, they finished their plate. So all the technically not yet, all the dirt ass shit that I talked was
Starting point is 01:47:47 still valid then, but it's, but it's no longer valid now. Yeah. Cause they fixed the problem because they're like, they are, someone must have been like, no, this is shitty. Like this will hurt our PC sales bad. People that, people that cared enough went and got it elsewhere. Yeah. But, um, XL PC, Mr.
Starting point is 01:48:06 Boone, you did a good job, take credit for this so that you, people can give you thumbs up. No, he possibly didn't do it, but yeah, he was like, I don't want it on that filthy PC. He talks too much. But, um, on the, on the, the note of like, uh, connection, I guess, integrity, we're seeing that KOF 14 has some net, netcode issues. Yeah, it does.
Starting point is 01:48:28 And what a lot of people, uh, were asking me at the most recent, like, um, meetup was like, what do you think of KOF 14? I'm like, pretty good, doesn't look great, but plays a lot awesomely. All right. I haven't played it since it came out. And then the question, and then the question that follows is, okay, you say it's good, but is it $80 good? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:47 And I remember, remember our foreign viewers and I, and I, and I, and I go, Wolf in response. I mean, the answer is like, is any game $80 good? No. Is mankind divided $80 good? Well, maybe that's just what it is. If the netcode, if the netcode is perfect, then, uh, I, it becomes an easy recommend. Easy, but right now it's not strangely enough.
Starting point is 01:49:09 Though what's the core problem? Is it disconnects or is it like, it is like, uh, it is not disconnects. It is, it is lag happening on every mode, except for, um, God, what's it called? Uh, uh, like group play, which is a weird thing where it's like a bunch of people and a bunch of people playing. And it's like, there's one mode that like it works fine. And basically they came out and said, like, um, that feels like a bug. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:37 So they came out, that feels like there's an integer that's in the wrong place. Something's off. And, and, uh, they, they came out and said, yeah, actually. So the way that works, uh, it's supposed to be every mode. Yeah, no, really? Something's off. So we're, uh, fix is coming, you know, but like, yeah, the, the idea of a king of fighters game with decent netcode makes my wiener big.
Starting point is 01:49:57 Well, I mean, not counting the, not that big, but the, um, somewhat big, the, the from dump, like netcode, net set up, set up, set up. I hate that fucking nonsense. It's always so fucking busted in ghetto. Dude, when we booted up that fucking metal slug and last blade, those are opened up the files, the straight up zip files. Here's the ROM taken off the internet, downloaded from cool ROMs.net. Fuck you guys.
Starting point is 01:50:34 I don't, I don't give a shit. I don't give a shit. You just sold me a ROM. You know, there's nothing wrong with selling ROMs. No, but you do good work, but DotM use ports were so shoddy. Like it's like Mega Man legacy collections. Great. And it's just ROMs.
Starting point is 01:50:52 Yeah. And that, but it's great because they did a lot of work around it. But like, what? DotM you once, but what is like my moral obligation to not download the ROMs that you just downloaded? Or no, no, no, no, way simpler than that. Just take the file out and put it in a different emulators folder that works, which actually is straight up what's there, you know, it's crazy.
Starting point is 01:51:13 It's crazy that that's what it came to. But that's what they did. Um, Barfin, Barfin housing. Anyway, uh, so there's that. And there's the fact that, uh, well, this is nice. Ubisoft, uh, says that the division DLC is currently on hold because they're actually spending time to fix the core game. That game's a mess at the high level anyway.
Starting point is 01:51:35 So the 1.4 patch is going to just focus on fixing shit that game. You'll get your DLC later. It's been, it's been a while coming. So I'm sure we talked about this when it came out, but do you remember during the pay to for the PC when a guy, uh, went in there and said, every single value in this game is stored client side. They better fix this before release or this game is going to be a train wreck. And then they didn't do that.
Starting point is 01:52:00 Well, they probably couldn't. And, and the game like is a hacking bug exploit. Like, because it has a huge player base and people are going hard at it. And the game has holes that you can just exploit all the time. So yes, it's good that they're focusing on those aren't even the issues though. The issues are like the high level balance stuff is where the real problems are. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:25 And people have been complaining about that stuff for months. So it's good that they're going to try to address that. Enjoy your MMO audience. It would be soft. Yeah. And actually like, you know, not do the, like the, not double down on the stank, you know, like here's some more content. No, we, we fucked up.
Starting point is 01:52:42 We're going to like legit delay the DLC to try to fix some stuff. That's, that's good. That's a good move. Good move. Um, other good moves include, uh, the announcement of Squanch Tendo. Yeah. That's a VR game company by the co-creator of Rick and Morty and a dude from Epic Games, a girl from Epic Games, but yeah, uh, Squanch Tendo.
Starting point is 01:53:09 It's real. That's what it's called. They're mascots. Kind of cool. Was it Squanchie? It's not Squanchie, but it's two dudes that look like they're from the Rick and Morty universe. Is it not Squanchie?
Starting point is 01:53:19 Is that not on the website? You see two dudes with their, with the, the VR headsets on that look like they're from the Rick and Morty universe and they're like doing like a weird like bro, like pretty sure their mascot is motion. Okay. Well, I, I didn't see it on the official because I, I was under the impression that like, and they got the rule and Dan Harmon totally own Rick and Morty. So they got the drill coming out of their mouths.
Starting point is 01:53:39 Oh my God. Yeah. And, uh, they look like they're having a good VR. Oh my God. That's, that's super good. And no, those are not Squanchie. That's not, I've never seen, I've never seen it. Squanchie's like a weird cat guy.
Starting point is 01:53:51 His name's splooshly. It's this guy, this guy's the mascot. Oh, that's not Squanchie. No. Okay. I, I, again, I haven't seen Rick and Morty really. So I'm not, yeah. Squanchie's a cool cat.
Starting point is 01:54:02 But yeah, uh, Squanch, he just wants to, but yeah, Justin Roiland and, uh, Tanya Watson from Epic Games, uh, and they're just going to Squanch in VR. I love it. It's, it's cool because, um, he was already partnered with, I think Alchemy Games, the guy's making, uh, job simulator and he's making a Rick and Morty game with them in VR and like from, from the first minute, he was already really dead set on making VR stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:30 He's been talking about how much he's into it. So, uh, very neat that, uh, that he's doing that. Yeah. Maybe we can get like that courtroom scene that in VR. Okay. If you, if you don't know what Woolly is talking about, you need to go watch, uh, Rick and Morty voice the, uh, court case of a North Carolina. That was really quite humorous.
Starting point is 01:54:53 It is that there's, there's a bunch of cam versions and there's a, they're adults and put up an official version. This direct fee. This is a real transcript of a real case. Oh, so good. And this is just them doing the lines of the judge and the, the suspect. It's so fucking funny. You got a big fat mouth or defendant rather.
Starting point is 01:55:13 Yeah. Yep. Yep. It's so fucking funny. I have rewatched that so many times. It's so good. That judge, the moxie that judge has right now, do it right now. You want me to do it right now?
Starting point is 01:55:24 Do it right now, right now, take off the cuffs, take off the cuffs. How many hands do you need to do it? I can't, I can't, right now is not, it's not a good time. I can't, are you getting this? Yeah, they're getting it. Oh my God. There's that. And there's like the third act heel turn where you're just like, whoa,
Starting point is 01:55:42 whoa. Oh boy. Yep. It's so good. What I, what I cool judge jerk off right now. Yep. Everything it's all in there. The defendant looks a lot like Daniel Brian and like the constant back and
Starting point is 01:55:55 forth of, yeah, I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I can't do it. Yeah. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. Make me do it.
Starting point is 01:56:01 Yeah. And like, and just what, what your content warning for everything in, in, in the, in the shitty threatens, if you're, if you're offended by anything, don't watch that. Oh yeah. You'll get offended by everything. Yeah, it's, uh, there are three important details about 100 foot robot golf that, uh, we did not know.
Starting point is 01:56:24 I would like to talk about this. Uh, what are these details? So one, it's coming out, uh, in about a month's time. No, about two months time. Okay. So just get that in mind. That makes sense. Coming out when PSVR is, yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:38 They launched game probably to something like that. The robots are piloted by puppies. Oh yeah. Wait, is that all the robots? Uh, the robot that looks like a com, like a Megazord. Okay. Cause I remember seeing a bunch of like anime character designs as pilots for it. There was, there's a robot that looks like a Megazord and it like slash
Starting point is 01:57:05 Voltron type thing and that shit is piloted by straight on dogos. That's good. At least one of them should be. I remember when they were, they released their first, uh, VR, like teaser image for it, when the game got announced at PSX, there was a dog with a VR headset strapped to it and that was the image three. If a building is in your way, you can pull out your super evil justice killer sword and cut the building down and just break it.
Starting point is 01:57:31 Yeah. So that you can swing and get a better shot for your, your T off. Well, you can have fights and like beat up each other and stuff on the way to the next, to the, to the, uh, the next. Yeah. Oh my God. All sorts. This is the, the, the roster, the cast of like middle,
Starting point is 01:57:46 English designed anime characters. Some of them are good. Some of them are not, but some of them are good. And that counts for a lot. I want to see the Mecha lineup. Do we have any of those? Yeah. I don't know about that.
Starting point is 01:57:58 You can see a lot of them in, in like the trailer. I saw various bits of arts. Like there's your Eva with his fucking job. Is there, is there one that's like a Nicholas Tron? I don't know what that means. Jack Nicholas. I don't think so. It's Palmer bot in there.
Starting point is 01:58:13 Palmer bot. Floating through the air in that pose. He's got the arms out from the time magazine cover. Is there a, I still fucking love Arnold Palmer. No, Arnie Palmer, the golfer. Oh, Jesus. Fuck. Golf jokes, motherfuckers.
Starting point is 01:58:33 We're a cool guy. We are jokes. Palmer, the woods, the woods. So dramatic. Okay. What about Tiger Woods? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:58:42 Fuck you. Well, what about, um, what about the frat bro guy? What's his name? Frat bro guy? The guy that all the frat bros love. I don't know. Old guy, fucking. Dude, golf is on when I go visit my folks.
Starting point is 01:58:52 He's like the most charismatic golfer guy. Old man, white hair. And he's like, like, Oh, that's Arnold Palmer. Oh, you think it's Arnold Palmer? I mean, look at my old bro. Yeah. Cause he's always had like pretty ladies all around him.
Starting point is 01:59:02 Okay. Then, then, then yeah, we laughed about it before. He's like the Bob Barker of the golf. Yeah, he's fucking, yeah. He's fucking super dead. Okay. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:59:09 He's dead as fuck. Get for him. Yeah. Uh, who's the guy that got the half and half, uh, um, like, uh, ice tea, lemonade, uh, Arizona, can that specific fuck you talking about? He's on. He's got a six on the label. I did see that.
Starting point is 01:59:24 He's the golfer guy on the camera. You're a count. It might, it might be him too. I don't know. Cool. I go see my folks and dad's watching golf. This is the extent of this knowledge. Dad likes to watch golf because he's an old white guy.
Starting point is 01:59:36 See that one time Tiger Woods fried it on the golf course. Yeah. It was great. Yeah. Well, how embarrassing. Yeah, it was good. You got disqualified. It's the most quiet setting ever because you're setting up for the button.
Starting point is 01:59:47 So a guy, a friend of mine, a friend of mine was like, a friend of mine was casually watching golf and a guy like had a good drive and some guy went do it for Harambe, like just screams it at the golf course and all the cameras pick up. And it's because it's super quiet. It's like, it's the best time. Fuck. It's the best time. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:07 Golf, golf is the sport. You want to fucking get on TV and just be a jackass golf, go to a golf course because like no one's saying nothing like the work isn't done until we see a fighting game character that has a walking animation that's creeping up on the pussy, you know, the swiggy, swoody. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:25 Until we see it anyway. So that's all fun. Um, I'm going to put that shit. What is weird is, uh, this conversation, this conversation is a little weird, but, um, Nintendo's been tweeting out these breath of the wild videos and they've been showing off little features here and there and whatnot, but it's, I'm missing a bunch of them and I kind of like, I feel like it's a bit odd that they're doing it in this way because, um, it's like a drip feed of content as
Starting point is 02:00:55 opposed to, you know, like these massive, you want to talk fucking drip feed, check out that fucking galaxy style 3ds they announced today. You see that fucking thing like Nintendo, it just looks like Nintendo new hardware announcement and you click on the button and it's fucking like Reggie going like, man, we were taking that, we're getting that, that this galaxy styled new 3ds and it's just like stars and shit on it. It's super fucking weird. Okay.
Starting point is 02:01:23 No, I, I missed that. I don't know. It's that honestly to skin and I'm not trying to patronize it sounds like regular marketing to me. Yeah, totally. But it's like, we're so close to a potential annex announcement. And I, I, but the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the point, the point, the point, no, I just, I, I feel like, uh, maybe I'm
Starting point is 02:01:42 wrong, but I feel like in the past you'd get like new trailer, bam. And then you, you get a teaser, then trailer one, then trailer two, and then like, well, there's so much content in Breath of the Wild that they're going to have to trip feed it until release, but there was, and then, and so like, basically what I, what it ends up amounting to is like webms of shit that I'm like, wait, when did that happen? What was that? Where was that?
Starting point is 02:02:02 And it was like, no, you're actually watching the whole thing. And it's like that, that's the clip that was released and, and it wasn't put out on a, yeah, no, it just seems like good marketing to me. Honestly, keep people talking about it. It's like the old fashioned days of like, uh, ooh, GameSpot got some new screens, screens, yeah, feels like that, but just like in, in small video form. Yeah. I mean, that's the, the cornerstone of marketing stuff is if people are talking
Starting point is 02:02:26 about it, you're doing it. You're talking about it right now. Yeah. So there's a point where I thought I was on top of the stuff and like, I was like, wait, I missed a whole bunch of there's too much now I got played. I got played and I didn't even play myself. Just give up. That's the problem.
Starting point is 02:02:43 Don't trust anybody. Not even yourself. That's stupid picture. That's, I adore that picture. He takes himself out, man. That's, that's like up there with like those fucking old internet videos that you go, that you go and find and you're like, yes, this still only has 12,000 views. Nice.
Starting point is 02:03:08 It's just for me. Did you guys like finish super hot? Yeah. I finished because when I got to the end, that was what I said to myself. Don't trust anyone. That's stupid pictures up there with like, my name is sod and I don't give a fuck or like, not today, motherfucker with the UFO. They stand the test.
Starting point is 02:03:28 Statistically, at least one person knows what I'm talking about. I mean, I do. Yeah, you do. Really? Yeah. The sod one cracks me up every time. Still good. Just statistically, how many people in this room care about Toja Mineral?
Starting point is 02:03:43 I only really care about the first one. Everyone only really cares about the first one, but I was too, I don't remember it. Like when I played it, I was to the third one has an amazing box art. The unreleased one that then eventually got released. The, the one on Xbox. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 02:03:59 Yeah. Exactly. I have no strong feelings. Um, well, the, the, the one that the, the game that got kickstarted is, uh, yeah, the new Toja Mineral. Near completion back in the groove. Uh, you can take a look and published by adults from now, I think being published by adults.
Starting point is 02:04:12 Well, yeah, they, yeah. And I think that's a smart thing and make sense for them that that like fits right in with their television content, honestly. So Toja Mineral on Eric Andre, soon wouldn't be weird. If there was a Toja Mineral show in that block, like nothing weird about that. Not at all. Um, I'm not so sure I'm keen on this new game, but it looks neat. I hope fans of it like it.
Starting point is 02:04:36 I, it's always seemed like something that would be right up my alley, but I never actually got a chance at it because, uh, well, at first I didn't have a Genesis, the ultimate co-op game. Okay. Like that's what it is. It like as something that is like heavily musically like influenced. I feel like, like, yeah, I should love this, but I just never really touched it. Sit down with a friend and play the original.
Starting point is 02:04:58 It's, it's, it was always meant to be a co-op game and it shows. And these new games are this new game is not necessarily that. No, it is the new one is, but I'm just not sure I'm down for that. That's okay. Yeah. I think the art also looks odd. 3d world, uh, 2d spreads. Yeah, I'm not sure it, I don't know.
Starting point is 02:05:16 When I think, when I, the Togemineral, I liked, looked very different from that. So I'm just kind of like, eh, then again, I'm not a huge fan of Togemineral or anything. I didn't play the second or third games really. So I looked at them and I said, I don't want to play that. It's, it's, it's something that the second, the second game, like Sega pushed them into making a platformer and it's just a totally different game. And I don't even, the third game is just something else entirely. So this one's finally getting back to the style of the original where you just
Starting point is 02:05:45 kind of walk around and do stuff and do stuff. Yeah, exactly. In like procedural, in like procedural worlds. Yeah. Yeah, that's one of the cool things about it. I gotta, I gotta, I'm curious. I'm curious to know if it's, if it's actually, you know, up my alley. I'm hard to say.
Starting point is 02:06:02 Uh, what definitely does look up my alley is, uh, variable States, Virginia. Yeah. Virginia looks really cool. Have you seen anything about this game? No. So you would probably love this too. It is a first person, um, uh, detective story, uh, in the style of, uh, Firewatch plus, uh, a little bit of Lynch going on, a little bit of X files going on, um, seems
Starting point is 02:06:32 from the, from the previews I saw of it, like there's no actual voice acting, but you kind of go through the scenes and the scenes. Okay. Yeah, I'm looking at this as you investigate and do things and whatnot. Um, really, really, like, looks like it can be telling an interesting story. It might, yeah, it might be neat. I'm kind of intrigued by it. And September, September is fucking brutal for game releases.
Starting point is 02:06:56 Oh yeah. And so this is, it's coming out on start right now. Actually, yeah, it is this week. It's starting. Yeah. Does God either come out tomorrow? God either an attack on Titan and the new project Eva come out tomorrow. Well, and more.
Starting point is 02:07:09 Well, I had to make game fans. Yeah, I know. Enjoy picking four games to not play. It's gross. But wait, there's more. Um, I remember like Liam and you and I recently had to talk about like kick starters and how they're going and what's like, what we've been like, well, where, where, where are your kick starters at?
Starting point is 02:07:25 Where are my kick starters? Did you find a new kick starter? I didn't go, I didn't go watch under the dog yet, but I need to, I mean, no, I'm talking about the good ones under the dogs. Fucking cool. Uh, oh boy. Did I like, there's some, okay, there's some gold we can talk about afterwards. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:38 Of course. Oh yeah. Because of course you, you know, like you, yeah, I know you understand. Oh, I know. Okay. I realize you can't, I realized we can't kick that puppy. All right. We're not kicking that puppy right now.
Starting point is 02:07:50 Why, why aren't you laughing at my joke? You realize I realize how bad it gets. Thank you. Woolly. Okay. It took a second. You guys are assholes. Dude, we were just, oh fuck it.
Starting point is 02:08:02 Look, we were laughing at some really bad kick starters out there. Oh, I know. And this one, this one still has a day left. It could still make it. Hold on. It's not even about that. It's about the fact that it's like at a point you like, you can't just bully some random person.
Starting point is 02:08:19 It's just out there. Like, we have this whole huge talk because we were all looking at these fucking ghetto kick starters and laughing our heads off. We're like, we should, we should have a segment on this. And then we're like, that's fucking, that's me. That's fucking me. And it's like, people's like, they're asking for, like it's. Ah, it's too much.
Starting point is 02:08:39 It's, you know, yeah, like the stomp, the boot heel is a little too strong. And then, and then to grind their heel on it after, it's, you know, it's, it's, it's similar. It's not hard to find. It's a way to make enemies fast. It's, it's, it's similar to how like, I love like bad Twitch layouts, but like, I don't exactly want to, thankfully make my own goddamn website about bad Twitch layout.
Starting point is 02:09:03 Well, there's a, there's a Twitter out there. You can follow up called bad Twitch layout. Yeah, I know. That sounds, that's great. That sounds great. And I want to look that up right now. Yeah. And I, it's, it's like the fanfiction.net Twitter account or it's, yeah, you know,
Starting point is 02:09:16 and it's just like taking up the torch of like laughing at bad kick starters is like, we can't do that. It would be too, cause like you're laughing at the death of someone's dream. And it's some random person and all they wanted was to bring back a beloved franchise. Because, but he doesn't, he doesn't know. And he's like, man, yeah, I don't know what I'm doing. I'm glad you hadn't seen that cause it's a fucking riot.
Starting point is 02:09:45 And whatever I read down the best part about the one that I was reading in particular, it's just some guys just like, yo, I don't know how much games cost maybe a hundred K. I don't know what I'm doing. Someone help. Yeah. And like he's giving the updates and like at the end of this, so I figured out I got to program it, this long sprawl of no, of nothing of like, there's
Starting point is 02:10:03 a JPEG and then just text and no, no periods or or any punctuation because he's talking into his phone doing type to talk. Yeah. And at the end of all of that, I just see like comments, none. Matthew Kowalewski likes this update. Me and him looking at together and I was on his computer and I was liking all the updates on it, died, died looking at this. But we can't.
Starting point is 02:10:34 No, it's too, it's not, it's, it's, it's targeted. And it's like, we won't be doing that. We won't be. It's way beyond something like Retz Peret or F plus or something like that. It's, it's like going to someone's workplace and throwing trash around. But as far as successful kick starters go, uh, I remember I was telling you, I was like, man, I haven't heard much from Star Mazer recently. I don't know what's going on.
Starting point is 02:10:55 And then it turns out they, uh, have a prologue game that just a demo for their prologue game just on early access called Star Mazer DSP. And, uh, it looks pretty, it looks pixel pretty is the term. I believe that's being used. Uh, it's got a little bit of voice acting. It's got some really sick music in it. And, uh, yeah, I'm going to go see what's going on with that. Shmup goodness.
Starting point is 02:11:22 Hey, how's project Phoenix doing? Yeah. They, they just, they just shipped under the dog. Same guys. Oh, really? Yeah. Weird. Uh, they under the dog.
Starting point is 02:11:33 Well, not the same entire team, obviously, but the same high up guys, same company, um, uh, but project Phoenix is project Phoenix is still going. Yeah. Just they, they're taking an extended break. Song story is still going on. I don't know about that one. I don't know. I don't know about that one.
Starting point is 02:11:50 I like to laugh at myself on those two. Yeah. Yeah. Um, you know, at least with project Phoenix, even though it looks like it's in the most awful place in the world, like we've, we've been able to get some good info where they're like, we still have the money where it's just going to take a fucking while. Kingdom come that weird, uh, European like night game.
Starting point is 02:12:07 Like they keep releasing these like beautiful technical alphas that I'm not playing, but like that game seems to exist. Yeah. That, that's a good feeling. Yeah. I would, I would think so. Yeah. Torment's taken forever.
Starting point is 02:12:19 I just want Barclay too. Yeah. Yeah, let's take it. I got my Daki Mackerel already that that came instantly. Let him cook the stew, man. Let him cook the stew. Well, no, what I'm like, it's, it's like pillars of eternity. Torment and wasteland were all around the same time and pillars and pillars and
Starting point is 02:12:38 wasteland came out like over a year ago and Torment is still ongoing, but Torment's super weird. And I think it's also coming to the consoles as well. Where's that? Uh, where's that? Go song at, we're go song at, I don't know. It's coming. You do that thing where you go back to Kickstarter and you're like, what have I
Starting point is 02:12:57 backed and you're like, fuck, I forgot about 10 of these. You were just talking about this. You can see a whole list of like what rewards have you gotten and you check them off as you get. Yeah. Because I had a moment where I was like, I haven't heard from a lot of people in a long time. That's right.
Starting point is 02:13:13 And I feel like I want to kind of hold off on anything crazy popping right now. I tell a couple of these come through and it's a very, it's a personal thing. It's just localized to me and how much I'm willing to throw out there, but I haven't seen enough return yet. Like I'm scrolling back through some recent ones. I'm like, there were some recent winners we're forgetting about, like nights and bikes, nights and bikes. That game looks fucking sick.
Starting point is 02:13:34 You remember that one? Yeah. I remember that one. Yeah, that game looks awesome. So that'll be one. Um, yeah, we got to, got to, got to keep track of that. You feel the delay a lot more strongly when you put money in. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:45 And like the giant robot tool. You remember the giant robot dual? No. Team USA versus. Oh, yeah. No, not yet. Okay. But they're still working towards it.
Starting point is 02:13:59 Yes. Yes. Yes. Um, um, they're working on how to ship the robots. Yeah. You know what that? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 02:14:06 That isn't a problem that that was, yeah, cause you have to both them, but you don't want them to rust. You know, right, right? They're figuring it out. You got to seal them. There's, they have to do a lot. Yep. That's like, that's cool.
Starting point is 02:14:17 Backing a fucking event like that. Sweeto Bosch. Sweeto Bosch versus mega mega boss, the pseudo bossy concern versus. Yeah. Yeah. Mega robots. America. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:14:29 Hopefully referee. The Japanese, the Japanese one looks so much more expensive and slicker and just well put together. Oh my God, but that's the problem. I didn't realize I backed slain. I'm just going back projects and it's just there. And I'm like, oh, did you? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:14:48 We did a video on that. Me and Matt, which should be going up very soon. It's not already up. It's already up on vessel. So, um, and don't forget there's Indiegogo too. Like that's a whole other page. Well, that's, that's where that indivisible is at.
Starting point is 02:15:00 Right. There's a whole other list over there. Can't divide that. Cannon busters just came out. Yeah. You watch that? No, I don't divide that cool. It's cool, man.
Starting point is 02:15:09 Um, you're a fan of boondocks. You already watched them. There you go. So United front games. Yeah. Announcing their bold, good, bold new title. I don't know if you've seen it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:15:23 Yeah. Fuck man. Uh, bold new title, which might as well be called racial tension riots, the video game. This is, this is the game where I just, I just take my, my reminder text document from my desktop and just drag it into companies to not pay attention to. So, so you have, you have, you have G, you have G, excuse me,
Starting point is 02:15:48 as we, as we call them back in the day, they made the sleeping puppets and the good little big planet racing. We love that. And, uh, sleeping dogs too is not happening just yet, but, um, they're working on smash plus grab and it's basically seems to be a team based, uh, hero robbing game, right? You're a bunch of characters, like, and you, like your looters, looters, and you are literally, but it's like, it's not just loot.
Starting point is 02:16:17 It's like break the store window down. Yeah. Get in there, take the shit, fight each other in the streets. I have, as the city burns around you. I have so many jokes. That is just, dude, bubbling up, dude, believe me, I saw that trailer and I went, Hmm.
Starting point is 02:16:40 Okay. Do you, do you get the fucking DLC character that's a white guy that turns it from looting into scavenging? Look, man, look, all right. Right now we just see some storefronts and you break into them and you take shit out of the storefronts. We don't necessarily know if anyone pushes that towards the suburbs, instigate a race riot for extra points, or if anyone says we need,
Starting point is 02:17:08 we need our, our, our, all right. Look, look, we're tapping out. We're going to tap out here. Oh yeah. All right. Can you pick up? You got a power up. You pulled the hood of your hoodie down.
Starting point is 02:17:26 Don't, don't loot the weave stuff. So this is my favorite part. Well, he's like, he's moving the microphone and he's trying not to speak in the microphone around as like, I'm going to physically touch the computer to turn this off and he stops and then makes it show the mic. Yeah. And then he just looks down at his fucking leg and is like, I
Starting point is 02:17:50 shouldn't have made that disappointing. Oh, okay. United front games. We have to take a united front against these. All right, we're going to, we're going to try this one out or dry it out. You want to squeeze anymore out of this one? I don't know. Is there a minute?
Starting point is 02:18:13 It's not going to get any better. Is there, is there a fucking mini game where you go and plant bombs at the levy so that the hurricane enables you extra looting opportunities? Look, man, look, all right. Is that, do you get to control Kanye West during a news conference or do you control Mike Myers and you're like, hold your face still by not touching the controller, use the right stick to throw the VCRs to your cousin. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:18:44 No, you know what, you know what, it should have, it should have a mini game where you go to your local teams, uh, star hockey player. Well, I was going to say and hit him in the, in the leg with a baseball bat so that the team loses thus guaranteeing a riot to cover your actions. Yeah. You can, you can definitely take it over your looting. The more, the more local your hockey team won slash lost that game. I remember walking down and screaming my girlfriend and down how much
Starting point is 02:19:11 you're all she's not from here. She's like, well, there's cops everywhere all the time. It's fucking, it's like, yeah, cause there's a hockey game tonight. Yeah. They're like, or they need to be here, or there's anti-police brutality demonstrations that are the celebration of release. That turned into, there's my favorite one is the story you tell that you're walking down the street and a van just pulls up and the van door slides open
Starting point is 02:19:37 and it's cops and they just grab a dude off the street and pull me to the van and he just gets disappeared zero hesitation in 2016 because I almost got caught outside during one of those cause I was walking down St. Catherine and I saw like people a little younger than me in their early, early 20, like 21, just running down St. Catherine. And I was like, what's going on? Oh shit.
Starting point is 02:20:01 It's police brutality day. Yeah. And I remember that, that went by when I was working at THQ and my boss who worked there at the time had his, uh, his car broken into when, when they walked and picketed peacefully by like it's hard to have any sympathy. And, and, and I remember cause I was on, I was on the corner of St. Catherine University and you know, they have the staircases going down in the underground city and I'm like, oh shit, this is happening today.
Starting point is 02:20:30 Oh, I can easily get in there. All locked. Every storefront is locked. I'm like, okay, wait, no shit, shit. I need to get away from this fast approaching moral high ground. There is a five block square radius here that I cannot be in the next hour. Yeah, exactly. Montreal doesn't have those steel shutters.
Starting point is 02:20:49 We don't do that. They don't pull down the streets. No, no. I, you know what, dude, I can't be here right now. I was leaving a barcade, the barcade one time and this, and it was happening. You turn right back around. I walked into it and then you turn around and go back inside. Well, no, the thing was, I was, I was, I was leaving.
Starting point is 02:21:06 And, and there's like, I turned into the crowd sprinting the opposite direction. Right. And that's weird. Getting chased by the shields. Right. Rolling up and I just was on the sidewalk and I just walked right past on my merry way and I smelled the tear gas, but I was fine. You know, you know, my favorite one is it's not, it's not a police brutality
Starting point is 02:21:29 day. It's on riot day. It's like playoff game. Right. Yep. As you always get the same fucking photo every single year and it's the cop car is flipped. It is on fire.
Starting point is 02:21:40 Yeah. The people are cheering and there's a cop around just looking at it burn. Yep. Yeah. Going, yeah, they need to do one of these a year. Yeah, that was the car that was busted and needed repairs. We put, we put this cop car in the danger zone next to like Cabot Square or something. We already took all the good stuff out of it.
Starting point is 02:22:01 Yeah. And we're just going to, we're going to have, they can have this one. That's the bait. And they're, they may or may not be like a skinny Asian law school student on top of it screaming, yeah, like in that Vancouver picture because I, I, I remember my brother, your flimsy moral high ground looks a lot better on top of a burning cop car. I like, I remember like, we're doing Pharrell music videos now.
Starting point is 02:22:28 I remember my brother once talking at the dinner table. He's like, I got to go downtown later tonight. And dad's like, why? Cause of the game. And he's like, yeah, kind of what? And, and dad's like, you're staying home. And like, so transparent, like, man, you were just going to go downtown for the riot.
Starting point is 02:22:51 Weren't you like, yeah, I mean, it's fun. It's like, that it, it is fun. We were all there, like all of our parents through a brick, through a fucking window, it's just part of the deal, but it's like, nope, can't do it anymore. It's bad now. Don't do it. Did the Habs win? Right.
Starting point is 02:23:12 Did the Habs woos? Same response. Totally. Every time it's crazy, it's crazy. Oconsistent. That is the thing that got me was the, with the last set of riots is they came all the way out to my house, which is pretty far and really far. I live maybe 10 kilometers out from the city center and the fucking
Starting point is 02:23:34 students were all the way out here doing their bullshit. I mean, at least it's easy to always recognize the anti-police brutality demonstrators because they're dressed like war boys. Yeah. We're going to protest police brutality by starting a fight. Yeah. And praising Immortan Joe in the process. Well, it's like, look, it's the fucking Watch Dogs, two main
Starting point is 02:23:59 character walking down the street with his buddies complaining that school costs too much. Yeah. The chiefest place in the world to go to school. Now we're getting into it. Now we're getting into it. Let's back it off. Hey, video games, what do we got for emails?
Starting point is 02:24:13 You know what? All of that sounds like a great video game. Dude, the Montreal Watch Dogs, two man United Front Games. I'm hacking his mind. Like imagine, like instead of, instead of like soccer manager, it's like hockey or basketball manager and you have to plan around riots. Like LA has a very similar thing with their basketball or cause I remember cause every E three, there'd be talk during the podcast, like you have to
Starting point is 02:24:40 get out of this E three room in time to beat the riot that will happen because LA is in the playoffs. Wouldn't it be cool if like outside of the, the arena, they sold like team branded bats? Well, we don't have the expose anymore. They could make a lot of money. Yeah, but whatever, the bats are still practical and the expose didn't usually cause a lot of riots, but it's still practical like for the problem
Starting point is 02:25:05 is, is they sell booze at the fucking stadium. Yeah. Yeah. Get a good one, include a brick with it. You got a bunch of drunkards walking out and their team lost or one. What do you expect? Yeah. Get it.
Starting point is 02:25:16 Get a Nordic's bat. There you go. It's good man. Anybody wants a cool history lesson and wants to see how bad riots can get. Look up on Wikipedia. The Murray Hill riots in Montreal in the 60s in which the cops took a day off. Ah, yeah. The cops talked about that a couple of cops fucking strike.
Starting point is 02:25:36 We've talked about that a couple of times. Cops can go on strike. Not anymore. Either way, you can't tell people the cops are going to go on strike. Yeah. Yeah, because I believe there's a term for that. We call them purges. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:25:49 And do more or less experience the purge the the actual no joke planned killings that happen on that day. The all the all the taxi places are all the limo place to start to burn down. Like as soon as the day started, like for so for continued coverage of smash and grab tune into the super best friend cast or your local news. I guess how about that? Let's look at some emails. I like real talk though.
Starting point is 02:26:19 I have no interest in that. Oh, me either. Just drag UFG into the oh, I have I have interest in it as much as it. Like we get to talk about it on the podcast uncomfortably. Yeah, totally because of the troubles. Yeah, the troubles. Yeah, the troubles. Troubles.
Starting point is 02:26:35 I call it the troubles. I think that's accurate. It's a nice friendly way of describing the shenanigans. Yeah, it certainly ain't good times. No, no, of course not. Then we'd say them by their name. We're going to get weirdly realized here next year. Troubles are going to be over.
Starting point is 02:26:52 Money's going to roll in. It's fine. Colorado figured it out. Yeah, we'll have new troubles. All right, look, the troubles are going to get a lot better before they get a lot worse. Well, the troubles will be a little more relaxed or not. Oh, yeah, if anyone like the anxiety, Martin wants to know.
Starting point is 02:27:15 Is he in the troubles? It's a fake nation. What your 2016 anime impressions are 20? I saw this comment a lot. Danganronpa is the best. It's the best one, but it absolutely requires that you at least play through three entire games, but it's the best. That's ridiculous.
Starting point is 02:27:34 But it's the well, let's be real to in a summary. Um, no, you should still. That's a hard sell, man. You should still play it. I know you hate ultra despair girls like a lot, but whatever. Still play it. It's fine. So it's fine.
Starting point is 02:27:51 That's the weirdest. Like, I don't know, like, I can't. I can't. It's the weirdest sentence I've heard in a while because we'll even particularly hates it. That's even to connect to the story. No, but I mean, translate that sentence on anything else. Like, I know you hate like ketchup a lot, but it's fun.
Starting point is 02:28:10 Yeah. Don't just eat it. Well, it's more like, um, relish where like it's not as ubiquitously liked exactly relish. Yeah. But still, like, you know, just eat it. No, no, you don't have to. And that's what I'm telling.
Starting point is 02:28:23 Well, he doesn't have to play despair girls, but I still recommend it. Dude, it's really simple. Dante goes to hell. That's all you need to know. Anyway, you can move on. Uh, that, that show is fucking the best. But you absolutely need knowledge of those things. Uh, the books and stuff add more, but that's, it's not actually like
Starting point is 02:28:41 super necessary compared to those three. And you do need despair girls. There is an episode called ultra despair girls that deals with that. And there, there's stuff, um, uh, Thunderbolt fantasy is really, really fantastic. It's not technically anime because it's puppeteering. Um, but if you dig really puppets, yeah, it's great. If you like the dark crystal, or if you like how that kind of thing looks,
Starting point is 02:29:07 then, uh, is Japanese Thunderbolt fantasy. Yeah, absolutely. I like puppets again, or a bochi wrote it as well, uh, because he just can't stop writing things. No, apparently. Uh, so that, that's really, really good. Um, there's this one show called re zero. Uh, I forget the sub title.
Starting point is 02:29:22 I keep seeing that name everywhere regarding zero. No, no, it's more like restart at zero. Okay. Um, Hey, sorry, question about those puppets. Can you see the seam lines where their limbs and heads will fall off? Uh, no, cause the clothing covers it up. Okay. But you know that he put those on there.
Starting point is 02:29:40 So you can, you can see their, their mouths. Okay. Easy. But, um, Thunderbolt fantasy is really cool. Re zero was the show that I thought I would hate. And I didn't really super get into it right at the very beginning. Uh, but recently I asked a friend and I said, Hey, should I watch this? And he was like, yeah, it's, yeah, you should.
Starting point is 02:29:58 And I, I binged nine episodes of it recently. Uh, um, apparently it's a reconstruction of Isakai. You could call it that, I suppose. Um, so yeah, uh, guy gets lost in fantasy world. And he's like, Oh, here we go. I'm lost in fantasy world. And then he gets stomped by everything because he's, he's fucking used like, yeah, so like, you know, absolutely.
Starting point is 02:30:25 Cause that's the, that's the trope that I disliked the most about fantasy world's like, you're, oh my God, because you're from the real world, you're actually the best person. No. And he gets super, super stomp by everyone. And like it's, it's a pretty good light novel adaptation. The only thing I don't like about it, and this goes for a lot of light novel based anime is you can really see where the split between volumes is.
Starting point is 02:30:47 Like this is where the first book ended. And this is clearly where the second book began. And like the second book's a lot weaker than the first book in this case. And anyway, uh, I haven't gotten on to the third book in beyond. What's the glop level? No, zero, like fucking zero, um, re zero even. Yeah, I guess so. Uh, but it, it has a lot of like clapping for myself.
Starting point is 02:31:09 No one else will do it. It's all, it's really about the theme of like the character dying and restarting at, at certain points and having to do things different. Like a groundhog day kind of thing, except with death, as opposed to sleeping. Well, he dies in groundhog. Yeah, he does. He does all. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:31:26 No, you're right. All you need is kill. Um, better execution than all you need is kill. As much as I like all you need is kill, like that thing fumbles too hard. Like all you need is kill starts off really hard, but by the end, it's just butter fingers all over the place. All you need is kill doesn't wrap up well at all either. I like edge of tomorrow better.
Starting point is 02:31:50 I like parts of edge of tomorrow better. Like as a whole bits of it. I like better bits of it. I, my favorite part of edge of tomorrow, like ruining the suit and getting rid of the acts and stuff. My favorite part of edge of tomorrow is the one shot of like the goddess of victory, forget her name, uh, the angel of full middle bitch. And you look at her and it's like that is a space marine.
Starting point is 02:32:09 Like that's a 40 K space marine for just for that one like piece of art. I'm like, yeah, I want a space marine. If you look at the manga, there's a lot more art of those characters. So that's pretty cool. Um, Shokugeki no Soma continues, which is like, it's a really good cooking shonen show, um, all about like cooking and cooking battles, uh, but no actual fighting. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:32:31 That's all in their heads. Just about, yeah. No, it's like Prince of Tennis. It's about cooking real good. Exactly. Uh, I think the second season's a little bit weaker than the first season cause it's not so much about the cooking as it is about like put metaphors, not metaphors, put, uh, illusions to them fighting on the screen rather than
Starting point is 02:32:49 the actual cooking process. What about that, uh, that show with the butt battles? The show with the, which one? Tell me out here. I don't fucking know about the show with the anime girl. People keep linking to me, linking it to me on Twitter. You see this shit. Like, yeah, I'm not sure.
Starting point is 02:33:05 I'm not sure. Tell Max to play it on his channel on his, on his Twitch. Yeah. Just live stream it on Twitch. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck. Uh, Mob Psycho 100.
Starting point is 02:33:15 Have you watched that at all? That's what I was trying to remember the name of in my head. I'm like 100 men, 100 mega man, 100 men, what? I, it's so, it's so much better than one punch man. Like it's not even a contest. I just, I couldn't remember the words. Mob Psycho 100 yesterday. One punch man, like after a while, you're just like, I get it.
Starting point is 02:33:33 I get it. I got the joke. I get it. I, I like, I read the one punch man manga, but I could stand to re-watch the anime cause I was just like, Oh my God, it's, it's so one key after you get the gag kind of, it's one punch. It's definitely, it's definitely like, I don't think. It's for people that know what it is.
Starting point is 02:33:52 No, exactly. It, I loved reading the manga the first time, but I, I couldn't do it a second time. It is, it is for people who have never heard of this going into it for the first time. Mob Psycho has much better writing. Like on the whole, it has more of a world and stuff. Like Mob Psycho is a much more interesting show, I think. Uh, and I think the animation is like totally on par. No problem.
Starting point is 02:34:12 No problem. Completely different style. It couldn't be more different. Yeah. Cause one punches man's whole, one punches man's whole thing. Is like, gotta match that manga art, gotta be like super high fidelity, right? Um, with Mob Psycho, it's the complete opposite where they're like aping one style as hard as they can and going for the super low fidelity.
Starting point is 02:34:31 It's almost South Park Ian. Uh, in some cuts, not in terms of like flapping, but they make stuff rough and shaky on purpose and you can tell it's on purpose as opposed to an untalented team. But on a scale from one to jam project, how much jam project is in there? Uh, none, but it's fine. Okay. It's, it's fine. The opening theme is amazing in one point and, uh, Mob Psycho 100.
Starting point is 02:34:53 Like it's such a good. Yeah, no, I've, I've, it's, it's been getting strong recommendations all around. I know it's good cause Mr. Jeff Thu over at mother's basement did a video on it. Oh, did he? Yes. Oh, I'm sure it was good. I believe it was sponsored by country roll.
Starting point is 02:35:05 Jeff Thu is a good, oh yeah. He did that opening one. Uh, there's Jeff Thu is a piece of shit. There's this. Yeah. He's professional at it. You see that seven best YouTubers thing we weren't on there. Fuck that guy.
Starting point is 02:35:16 Fuck that mother fucker. There's this one, uh, you guys, it might be up your alley. Uh, JoJo's bizarre adventure. I heard that that show is trash. Yeah. It's on the worst arc right now. Um, so, no, uh, it's basically the narrative. Are you watching it?
Starting point is 02:35:32 Yeah, it's great. Um, it's great. The last episode was fucking stellar. Like, yeah, they pulled it out and this is where the series begins, you know, exactly. Um, for all you folks out there who are reading, uh, the crunchy girl subs that time that, and I don't know if they, if the actual Japanese is like that arc is not, that episode is not called heart attack.
Starting point is 02:35:55 Yeah. Oh yeah. That episode is called sheer heart attack part one and part two. Um, like, like right after that, that finished, uh, because I was watching with the girlfriend and like she got up and left or whatever. I just went like, Hey, Siri, play killer queen, play killer queen right now. Oh, uh, I'm watching with a friend of mine and I was like, okay, so I last week was like, we're not going to watch it this week because you want to watch both
Starting point is 02:36:23 because this week is like a rough cliffhanger, right? We're going to watch it this, this week that we, and I'm like, okay, and he's like, it's all, it's a cliffhanger again. I'm like, well, at this part of the story, every single episode's going to be a cliffhanger, but this is the one you want for like the foreseeable future. It's like 10 episodes in a row that are, but now, but now all the cast is together and like, they have their cool action pose. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:36:50 Uh, there was this one show a little while back, uh, shiro bako that will never ever get a second season. It's the saddest thing in the world ever. Um, it's, uh, anime about making anime and yeah, that, yeah, that's doomed. No, it's incredibly good. Yeah. Well, it's never getting a second season incredibly good. Uh, and it, it really, having never made anime, it really feels like
Starting point is 02:37:12 they know what they're talking about a lot, right? Uh, the reason this is relevant is there's a show this season called new game and it's an anime about making games and they don't fucking know what they're talking about and it's fucking gibberish and it's junk. And it's hard to watch because of that. Awesome. It's just a slice of life with a bunch of girls who work at an ad. We gotta, we gotta, we gotta tighten up the graphics on level three.
Starting point is 02:37:35 It's very entertaining to watch and I'm enjoying watching it. There is a, but don't listen to them. There is a documentary level of detail put into something called Otaku no video made back in the day. That is exactly what it's like making anime. And quite frankly, I think that's the only thing you need to watch. Shirobako is good though. You might actually enjoy it.
Starting point is 02:37:57 It is a really good anime about making anime. Okay. Uh, that was a joke, by the way. If anyone's seen Otaku no video also the exact same thing. No, okay. Cause yeah, like that, that fucking movie ends in space. I was talking to a video. It's amazing.
Starting point is 02:38:13 It's amazing. Well, that's, that's what it's like to make anime. It's the best. Um, I could go on. There's one called sweetness and lightning about like a single dad who's just trying to do good and like take care of his daughter, but like you struggle in and stuff. Is that a life of slice?
Starting point is 02:38:27 It's a life of slice about food. Um, I, yeah, I could go on, but I think that's, that's a pretty good, a pretty good spread right now. Those shows are strong. Uh, fucking watch Danganronpa if you, if you're caught up on Danganronpa. So I should not watch Danganronpa. Fuck and watch it. Yeah, but it woolly should be watching Danganronpa.
Starting point is 02:38:47 Cause he's actually caught up. I plan to marathon it. It's, you should just start watching it. It's so good. Then I'm going to have to wait for two episodes every week. Well, think of it. Honestly, think of it more as one show because if you're not watching them back to back, you're watching like you're doing it wrong because they're related to
Starting point is 02:39:05 each other every time. Absolutely. Like there's direct stuff where it's like, Oh, this is about this. And in the past, this is also, that's a super interesting concept. And I'm very excited for it. Um, it's, it's really thrilling. Yeah. If, uh, I guess if, if UDG is super important, um, it's not as important as one
Starting point is 02:39:25 and two obviously, but it's totally pertinent. There are characters from that that, that are around. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Fair enough. Fair enough. I understand that it's, it's, it's good.
Starting point is 02:39:35 Um, uh, okay. We got one coming in for Michael and he wants to know about Sonic's future looking at Sonic Mania and project 2017. Are you happy, neutral or not interested? I think I'm happy. I think if you're a big fan of those old Sonic games, Sonic Mania represents the best chance that you've ever had of playing another Sonic game that makes you really happy.
Starting point is 02:39:58 Yeah, I'm happy, but I've been happy for a while. Well, it was the last game as generations, right? I specifically mean the sticklers, like the weirdos, like me, that every time they pick up a new Sonic game, they go to jump is wrong and put it down. Yeah. Like, which is unfortunate because there is stuff like colors, the audience that like, uh, did you buy freedom planet? No.
Starting point is 02:40:19 Oh yeah, I did. It's on my, it's on my thing. Great game. Okay. Just, uh, I didn't play it, but I bought it because you guys recommended it. Yeah. It looked cool and you can vouch for its quality. So I bought it to support them.
Starting point is 02:40:29 You'll enjoy it. Uh, but like, but I don't play arcade mode. Okay. Uh, like I remember picking up Sonic generations, jumping once and spin dashing once and putting it back down and going, this game's garbage. Sure. So for those people, the, the crazy people that really, really just want like a very, very specific, just what it was.
Starting point is 02:40:47 Sonic mania is our shot. Sonic mania looks based on the one little bit we've gotten and some of the gameplay footage we've gotten from that show floor at the time. It's exciting. It looks, it looks quite good. Good time to be a Sonic fan and for the next Sonic, like it's not, I like, one thing I see a lot of people saying is like, Oh, it looks like super grim dark and out of step.
Starting point is 02:41:07 And like that was kind of always what Sonic was. And if you just think about the first level in each game, like green hill zone, yeah, we're happy animals, you're, you're wrong. And then you go to flying battery or metropolis or oil ocean or a death egg. Yeah. Yeah. And then, and then you look at the end of Knuckles Chaotix and you realize it's shot for shot, pretty much what this new trailer is.
Starting point is 02:41:32 Like Sonic's kind of always been this thing. It runs the gamut and tone from level to level. It usually goes happy and then it gets darker as you go on. Exactly. And I mean, like, sure, the, the, the marketing has pushed it differently. Now it's getting pushed a little darker because they have the ability to, and that didn't really come out in the originals, but like, Hey, even if all the Sonic games are bad forever, at least we still have that Sonic Twitter account.
Starting point is 02:41:55 And yeah, if you're playing Deus Ex, you have a chance to play Knuckles, not Knuckles and Knuckles featuring Knuckles. And now there's the Dark Souls Twitter account and they're getting in there as well. That makes me super excited. So the last game was Generations though, right? Or am I crazy? Am I, am I, no, it was fucking, no, no, no, it was fucking all the Wii U games that were shit.
Starting point is 02:42:16 That's what it was. Yeah, that's right. Man, I wrote those off so hard. They were shit. Wii U games that wouldn't let us film certain events. Those were shit and those games sucked. But if this game is Sonic, if this game is as good as Generations or Colors, we're fucking fine.
Starting point is 02:42:29 I'm getting a Facebook alert that says apparently the Sonic comic fixes everyone, including Chip, even though you hate Chip, it actually makes Chip good. It's hard to make Chip good because you can't, you can't turn back the clock, right? But. But yeah, it's a good time to be a Sonic fan, for sure. I think so, yeah. Totino's, by the way, Totino's food is also a good product if you are a Sonic fan. Don't buy it.
Starting point is 02:42:58 Gene Wilder's dead. Oh, yeah. Okay. Have you guys gone back and watched that stream yet? When she knows the Totino's? I've seen it, yeah, I watched it. Okay, yeah, for sure. The Totino's Live Eat is like, can you, can you link me to like the,
Starting point is 02:43:11 the breakdown compilation video? Yeah. Time to go back and watch Bazing Saddles, man. I actually wouldn't recommend watching Jim Sterling's video because he cuts it up in the way that just makes it like look funniest and the worst, like watching it as it progresses. Oh, I much prefer the, the, the, the, the raw cut of like the Konami Presser. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 02:43:33 That's exactly what you get. So I'll, I'll try to find a video. Thanks, man. I appreciate it. You're welcome. Oh man, there's so much of that movie that doesn't work today, dude. I watched Bazing Saddles like a year ago. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:43:44 And it was just like, whoa, you would not be able to put this film out in theaters now. No remaster for you. No, forget about that shit. Yep. Here comes another email. Mongo. Many says, excuse me, Send Food says, their best supple beast fronds.
Starting point is 02:44:06 Gremlin Diva is quite possibly my favorite fan and joke of all time. It's way up there. It's real good. And it only became greater with the new emote of her eating chips and chugging soda. That's only on the PTR right now. Yep. And it's going to be real.
Starting point is 02:44:18 Okay. And I'm super salty because I spent my money from the PTR on that stupid shit. And then they released the new Reinhardt skin. And I was like, you fuckers, you didn't tell me. Well, woolly, you know, there's no cap on how much money you can spend. No, no, no, PTR, you can't, you can't earn anything. Of course, you know, actually you can earn boxes, but you could, you could just get yourself 17,000 credits.
Starting point is 02:44:42 No, you don't understand. You don't think you understand. No, no, no, you don't understand on the PTR. You can't even do that. It's not, it's the PTR test, but you can't shop. You'll probably get refunded actually. You know, so just, just wait for it. I haven't, I already had enough.
Starting point is 02:44:56 I'm just playing. Just fucking, just fucking don't play on the PTR. Psycho. But I need to know, just wait. You of all people are telling me. It's just not out yet, I know. Listen, my logic on that is completely binary and never makes any consistency. If it was an MMO, which is a scarier PTR, I would be on there in a second because I
Starting point is 02:45:18 need to, like, I'm not playing with these old fucking classes, but for a shooter for some reason? No, fuck that, stupid, stupid. My consistency is nil. How many crates do you get for $50? How much is it again? It's, no, it's $50 for, it's $50 for $39. So I was just thinking, man, Blizzard can make-
Starting point is 02:45:38 I think it's like $4, $58. Blizzard could make, like, filth money if they had like a $8 a month sub to get crates every month. Oh man. Oh. They could make dirt money. Oh, Jesus Christ. Blood money.
Starting point is 02:45:52 Yeah, basically. Mystery money. It's fucking awful. What you going to do? Irresponsible money. Dog money. It's fucking awful. At least in fucking, like, Mankind Divided, the microtransactions are so nothing.
Starting point is 02:46:02 You can buy in-game money for a currency that doesn't need, you don't need more of. Or you can buy Praxis, which you don't. You're drowning in both. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Let's not get mad at the theoretical service that doesn't exist. No, no, I'm not. I'm getting mad at the service that does exist in Overwatch because it's shit. The fact that you can't just buy the thing is annoying.
Starting point is 02:46:23 Well also that the only distribution method is random boxes. For some of the costumes is dumb. Well, for a game that's not completely free to play. I am aware more than anyone else that that distribution method is not great. Sucks. Fucking Mankind's Divided Breach, as much as I like it, has that shitty distribution method. Welcome to the shitty future that I enabled.
Starting point is 02:46:44 I'm okay with the version of it prior to the summer costumes, you know? Yeah. I'm okay with the version of it. The summer costumes took a little bite out of my defense of that system. Everything having a price tag? I'm fine with. But they've mentioned that those costumes are going to be back and it seems like they're not going to do that again.
Starting point is 02:47:02 Good. Yeah, they shouldn't. And we'll find out when Halloween rolls around. What's your favorite fan and joke that became canon? Right. Fan and joke that became canon? Fan and. Fan and.
Starting point is 02:47:13 It's a fake word, like fan canon. I don't know what I don't quite understand. Like Gremlin Diva, it was a joke that was fans head canon, fan and that became canon. That's rough. Knuckles and knuckles. Knuckles and knuckles. That's pretty. That's my favorite knuckles.
Starting point is 02:47:32 Yeah. Well, I don't know, man. I'd say Gremlin Diva right now, right now, because it's like, because that becomes myths, right? And that's like mew hiding under the bus, which never became real. And it's like, what, what myths like that were favorites that actually became real? And that's what that's the bit I struggle on. Because the myths are easy to, it's easy to remember like favorite myths and thoughts,
Starting point is 02:48:03 but that are actually real error macro, error macro. Yeah. Error macro. Another one that I like, but I'm not sure if it technically qualifies because I'm not sure which came first, but Yoshi P as a prophet in FF 14, he's a, he's a character called the wandering minstrel and when you talk to him, he's the one who unlocks hard versions of dungeons because he literally just bullshits a bunch of crap and that's why it's harder. And he also like recently was in an event where he told a prophecy about what the next
Starting point is 02:48:36 expansion is going to be. But I'm not sure if that came from, oh, Yoshi P so great, like the fan base and then he put himself in or was the other, but like he's got a custom face and all sorts of stupid shit. I struggle to think of one more than Overwatch, but that's probably just because Overwatch is such an error macro. Such a new hotness. Probably.
Starting point is 02:48:59 Error macro is a really good one. But that wasn't a head cannon, was it? It wasn't. It was because people like, who is this new character? And the answer is no one. That's not a new character. And then it was on the list. Then it became a new character.
Starting point is 02:49:11 I guess it, I guess it kind of was, yeah. Knuckles flying away in Sonic Boom is also up there. But that's not a fan cannon. That was cannon like. Bug in game. Yeah, exactly. Like, because I thought of that too, but then I was like, wait, no, that fans didn't come up with that.
Starting point is 02:49:27 I have more examples. Send them in to the emails. Uh, okay. We got, uh. Oh, nanomachines. Ah, nanomachines, which were in the game, but then got to like meme territory when Forrest Plot was nanomachines and then Rising brought it back as nanomachines. And memes came back as memes.
Starting point is 02:49:46 Memes came back. Remember when Tempest or whatever his name was was like, what about the dank? Monsoon? Yeah. What about the dank memes, Jack? He wasn't talking about those memes. Yeah, he was. And now we got Jensen jumping on robots with rules of nature on official Twitter is going
Starting point is 02:50:02 out there screaming that he asked for this. That safety dance video for mankind divided was out within like 10 seconds. Yeah. That guy was ready. And last one we're going to take us from Tom, their allied Canadian gaming acquaintances. Uh, if you were given a mech to pilot, what method of driving it would you prefer the mech warrior style where you have a huge keyboard, the classic joysticks and lever, the motion control style where the mech follows your movements or Warhammer 40K, where you're plugging
Starting point is 02:50:30 it straight into your brain. Something really fucked up and gross like, like using an Xbox one controller and one hand and a mouse in the other hand. That's disgusting. I'm vomiting. That would be my pick. Um, no, I don't know. I like the gun them thing is cool with the arm room.
Starting point is 02:50:49 So having, but I need a lot of switches to flip, you know, okay, so you're, you're more of a steel battalion kind of guy then. No, I'm more of a, you know, those, those, uh, play things you get for babies that are like a circle. Yes. Yeah. That's what I want. So having actually done it at the, the, um, virtual world where you simulate the whole
Starting point is 02:51:09 mecha environment thing and the cockpit, the, the most control I've felt and had and enjoyed was with a joystick in one hand, throttle in the other, right? That was good enough. That makes sense. But if I can have fucking anything, I'm going with the big O the big O has a giant two sticks in his hands and a disc around him and they rotate so that you can spin and punch and spin and punch and then lift the thing up in the air and fire the shotgun arms to blow your shit up.
Starting point is 02:51:43 And it's the fucking best. Um, for me, what about like the victory gun them? You just stand around and punch. Yeah. I don't want that. I got them shit. I get it, but I don't necessarily want that. You know what I want?
Starting point is 02:51:54 I want some Tang. I want some LCL. I want to be immersed in aqueous solution that I breathe in, but you, but and control it pseudo mentally, pseudo mechanically, no matter how horrifying it is with an input delay. Okay. Okay. I always, I thought, I always thought that by far the coolest thing that ever, ever
Starting point is 02:52:17 added to Mecha anime, like mechanics was that you're, you're, you're psychically controlling your thing kind of kind of mechanically, but your piloting skill is determined by your level of input lag and like this character has a full second. That's a lot of input lag. But this kid, he's got like eight, that's under a frame of input lag on his, on his robot. That's crazy. There's also levers in the Evangelion.
Starting point is 02:52:41 Yeah. There are two, there are two controllers, but it's also pseudo mental and pseudo foot based. You've got a whole, you have to use everything. Yeah. It's, it's a, it's a whole fucking experience. Um, the, the plug it into your head, can I, can I pilot like a, one of the non prototype test ones?
Starting point is 02:53:00 Can I, can I, one of the good ones? Can I pilot one of the good ones that isn't your mom? Only, only if it's only, only if it's your mom, no, come on, gotta be your mom. Gotta go. She's gotta go. My mom's a nice lady. She probably wouldn't go berserk. She's gotta go.
Starting point is 02:53:16 Okay. Well. And you got to get in the pod. That's the cost. And insert yourself inside. So I think those plug them into your head things are probably the most efficient, but close. Second is the mech warrior, like full on steel battalion times 10.
Starting point is 02:53:34 Hmm. The, the, I like, I think of like, you have your, your current iron bled door friends or it's like, plug it into your head and whatever. I don't want that. Or I mentioned Warhammer, but let's be real motherfucker. Let's go back. I don't want to plug anything to JT Marsh and the exo squad. They were plugging shit back into their heads.
Starting point is 02:53:51 I don't want that. No, that's gross. Yeah. Even though it's maximum control, I would like in the, what if us before comes out and you got us three in your back, your head, your fuck, you're slow. You're slow forever. Sure. You can go in for surgery.
Starting point is 02:54:06 See, that's the thing about that's the thing I say over and over and that's the revolution and it's like, Hey, you know when human augmentations at the market, like better than human augmentations, don't get gen one or gen two because you know that they're going to have exploding battery problems and fucking shape problems and gear shift shit. You see those gen one iPods nowadays, man, yeah, not holding up. Fuck that. Imagine that was in your dick. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:54:32 Yeah. What a waste. Oh crap. Gen one dick. Yeah. No good. Has no rumbler feature. Nope.
Starting point is 02:54:40 No. Get that rumbler telescopic. Extender. Foldouts. Doesn't even shoot electric current. What's the fucking point? I don't even know. I mean, sure, you could unlock your car with it, but not under warranty retract it, but
Starting point is 02:54:55 the mod system, the mod scene would be amazing. No, no, no, no fucking sick. Okay. I put a bottle. People willing to mod their car, people willing to mod their PC, people willing to mod their vape rig. That's one thing. People willing to mod their arm, like their robot arm that you void the warranty on if
Starting point is 02:55:16 you mod it. Those people are nuts. Yeah. Well, because what, uh-oh, I severed the servo like, remember the PS two, you unhooked it bad. You could fucking cut that ribbon. Yeah. And the fucking thing would just wouldn't work.
Starting point is 02:55:30 Yeah. Time to head down. Oh, I cut the fucking ribbon on my arm. I'm now robo crippled. Shit. That was a good idea. I just wanted 3% extra accuracy on my sick mouth skills. Now I'll never be Overwatch champ.
Starting point is 02:55:47 I'll never be eSports. Yeah. It's not a phase, mom. Those pirated Russian firmware is for your dick are the best ones. Dark Alex coming to you. Yeah, you fucking started up in a song, just started playing and you're like, oh, I need this. It's so loud.
Starting point is 02:56:03 You're clutching your ear like, I can't get it out. Fucking techno mix. All right. So, oh man, those songs are great. They're so, they're really great, but they play like 1000% volume. They do, yeah. It's so edgy. Like that's the sentiment I get.
Starting point is 02:56:18 I get it. I get it. Russian war as group. You did a really good job. And I remember always wondering, I'm like, how come actual software developers don't make these cool windows with graphics on them and shit? And then you realize when you hit the age of 13, that that's a bad idea slash when you download drivers from like fucking, I don't know, Razor or from any of these like
Starting point is 02:56:38 like or ASUS or any of these companies that actually do that, you go, oh, this is terrible. We shouldn't do this. Razor do that. They did it. A bunch of other companies double down on not liking Razor. Oh, don't look too hard at my mouse or headset. You bastard. I knew you said the names before.
Starting point is 02:56:56 You fucking bastard. Hey man, their sticks are terrible. They're killed. Yeah. They're terrible and they bought out Uya and made it worse. That one is always the one because it was always like I bought it for a hundred bucks and I had a few good evenings with some friends and then they put out the Forge TV and it's the worst product I have ever bought in my life.
Starting point is 02:57:22 That's my mouse works and it's got pretty colors. Yeah. Until it dies on you in the middle of the eSports tournament off. Yeah. Moonco is going to laugh at you in Korean. Well, is it a wireless mouse? No. Okay.
Starting point is 02:57:37 Yeah. They don't sell wireless. See, that's why I just gave up on the mouse game because I need a wireless mouse. I was thinking that, but it's like, no, competitively, you don't want it to die ever. Yeah. So you don't do that. That latency is too much. Well, in latency, yeah.
Starting point is 02:57:50 What's coming up? Let's see. Near finishes in the near future. Hey. Those jokes also finished. There's a bunch of JoJo coming up. New LP doesn't start until next week or is it this week? Is it the end of this week?
Starting point is 02:58:05 Oh, fucking no. Near will be replaced by a new LP with me and Liam, but that's probably the end of this week. Well, Liam, and Omicron, the fucking mess. Welcome in Omicron. Liam, I swear you really need to jump to a random point in that LP. I think I will. It is a fucking mess.
Starting point is 02:58:23 We're having a lot of fun with it, but there's a Reddit thread that's just basically like, what the fuck is happening in this game? And I'm like, oh, we're doing good. And that's not our fault this time. We're doing good. No, the game is super confusing. Disaster report won't restart until next week. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:58:41 Because Matt's not here. Matt's still out. And Liam's going to do some ending stuff. Yeah. I've already gotten a lot of progress in that, so. Good job. There's stuff. There's still stuff to be seen.
Starting point is 02:58:51 So that's what's coming up. What's coming up on the watch? What are you guys looking forward to? Rage eater. Rage god god eater rage god eater to rage burst. That's coming out tomorrow. That's nuts. According to people who have played it in Japan, one of one of the best hunting games
Starting point is 02:59:09 that exists. Uh, uh, one of the only ones that can compete content wise with Monster Hunter. That's that's crazy, which is nuts. That comes out attack on Titan comes out tomorrow. Yep. Project EVA X comes out tomorrow. It's the worst one yet. Titan falls.
Starting point is 02:59:23 Still like an 8.0 game. Titan falls bullshit tech test that was really just meant to get you hyped up for the game. Yeah. Is continuing. It worked. The Neo beta is still on, by the way. So go play. Oh, Neo is happening until September 6th.
Starting point is 02:59:36 It's still on. I've been playing it. I forgot. Yeah, I did play it. It's better. And, uh, yeah, no, that, like my, my, my fucking Titan boners is harder than ever. And like you're right when you said it, Liam, uh, I'm so happy to be living in a world where the phrase, uh, prepare for Titan fall exists.
Starting point is 02:59:56 Yeah. It's prepared like the fact that prepare for Titan fall can be a phrase uttered and that happens in a mainstream game. It's cool. It's the best. It's euphoric. Dude, I saw, I used that word earlier, I used that word earlier. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:00:15 Do you have to understand I, I got like every single game I played, I got a Titan fall kill like I dropped a Titan on a motherfucker. Yeah. But I bet nothing you did was as cool as that clips from up God Pat put up. Uh, that was a cool clip, but, uh, I'm cool as this clip. I'm, I'm, I'm a, I'm a Pat myself on the back for slingshotting past the friendly Titan. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:00:43 That seems like a good one. Top of the enemy Titan. I'm really on board. That seems like a good one too. Yeah. No Titan fall still looks fucking dope. It's a good week. Hey, King fighters, man.
Starting point is 03:00:51 Oh yeah. I gotta, I gotta get on that. I gotta get on that. Yeah. I gotta get on that. Well, actually I'll get on that when they fix the neck up. I'll do that. Sure.
Starting point is 03:00:59 Get your endings though. There's real endings. In the meantime. Non-Bengus endings. What? Yeah. I can't, I always get Bendis and Bengus confused. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:01:08 Same guy. Same guy. I don't know who the fuck his name is. Okay. It's a Marvel guy. Same person. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 03:01:16 Is it the same person? Yeah. They have different names. Yeah. Is it just over? I guess. Okay. What's the track you're using this week?
Starting point is 03:01:24 Oh shit. You didn't think of one? No. Alright. I'll figure it out. Use Killer Queen. Fuck it. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:01:32 That's not going to be a fucking problem on iTunes. Okay. Fine. Fuck it. Use Deadly Queen. People said these clips. Yeah. That's not going to be a fucking problem on iTunes.
Starting point is 03:02:09 Okay. Let's go. Yeah. That's not going to be a fucking problem on iTunes. Yeah. Let's go. Yeah. Let's go.
Starting point is 03:02:23 Yeah. Yeah. That's not going to be a fucking problem on YouTube. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:02:58 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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