Castle Super Beast - SBFC 165: Black Blackity Black-black

Episode Date: October 4, 2016

We've been watching Luke Cage....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 yeah tell me official to tell me to knock is official twitter all you love this girl uh... just wrote my old dream is that i wanted to go to a member of the jackass now uh... uh... this is kind of like a riddle it's a little cryptic well it's more like a haiku i wanted to go to go to a member of the jackass okay of the jackass now that can mean i wanted to meet as someone from jackass or maybe maybe it's an abstract that she wanted to be in jackass
Starting point is 00:00:48 alongside a member that's what i think she wants to be a member of jackass and holy shit would i re-tune in and watch jackass again of course cuz like or maybe just like writing a really dangerous animal or or maybe it could be in the biblical sense in which when you go into something that is how you the get children right so like the like the process yes of it like jacob uh... went into saura not sure that she wants to go into
Starting point is 00:01:21 a member of the jackass maybe she wanted to you know lay with someone from jackass like johnny noxville or steve o or johnny noxville or steve o there's a she also just posted a picture of her clear white vita it's well yes every every girl in japan does have
Starting point is 00:01:41 a vita actually this is very well known is there is a purikura on it there's a photo of her with someone else's background so yeah more or less a little heart logo about that that's amazing don't meet the naka yeah you know exactly how to say that hey i told me what are you doing sex having sex i had to crop that clip for the wrestling special
Starting point is 00:02:04 okay good good good of course you would have yeah you'd have to okay so what are you gonna tweet back at her right now nothing oh that would just just like you like dude you've come so far make a move you're more famous than stevo now
Starting point is 00:02:22 you have the chance no remember on reddit where i missed it by like yeah yeah i do god uh pat's sleepy so he's not here yeah he's sleepy died we were recording and he kept falling asleep during the game it happened it did
Starting point is 00:02:37 hey he said he was over his red bowl limit and he was two cans over which makes me wonder what the limit is in the first place and also it's noon the limit is two cans it's it is yes it is noon on monday and he is four cans in now i i had two hours of sleep last night
Starting point is 00:02:55 no excuse you shouldn't slept for two hours no it's rough but i am i am here i see that oh that's a sad tweet but i'm really sad ryan done is gone says it told me to maca with a little crying emoji he would have appreciated the j-cups i fucking would have so yeah we now live in a timeline where
Starting point is 00:03:19 we're around for two godzilla movies with matt in our lives yeah oh yeah like new ones coming out yeah what a wonderful time to be alive what yeah like are you how are you feeling yeah i am i'm in a i'm looking at it kind of in a state of anxiousness where at any moment i could like spring and go like now i'm going to download a version of it right from
Starting point is 00:03:43 china they're available but you know fortunately that was announced that there's going to be a montreal showing thank god just just the one so don't miss it but yeah i'm really really really looking forward to because i've i've literally spoiled myself and everything in the movie i read yeah everything you mentioned that made me go oh shit i can't now i have to see that like the full spoiler reviews like here's here's the deal with godzilla this is the final
Starting point is 00:04:09 climactic scene wow type stuff and it just made me want to go oh fuck i want to see that part and i am ready for all the real japanese political drama that will completely fly over my head is so this is a brand new like actual kaiju though right like it's not a it's not a yes yes it's not even almost every subsequent godzilla film at least says man this godzilla is real way worse than that one from the 50s yeah he was nothing he was tiny oh he was a tiny baby how big was he not that big tall
Starting point is 00:04:44 you see that picture levi posted where yeah i did put no 54 godzilla in modern day tokyo it's like a small man he's like not as tall as buildings i think it's 50 50 meters more like 50 meters i think yeah 165 feet but yeah he's fucking nothing yeah he's not that big it's he looks really cute like there's a we could we could probably take him if you just gang up yeah yeah i got the top fin yeah and the godzilla the godzilla and shin godzilla i think they made sure that he needs to be
Starting point is 00:05:18 he's the biggest one seven meters taller than legendaries yeah it's that mentality there's no reason not to keep going bigger i guess too so ever so slightly one shack above yeah the other one it's cool because when you look at legendaries it looks like it's crouching a little bit more because it has a bit more of like a like a real animalistic look whereas godzilla is like more of a silly dragon lizard the christmas tree yeah exactly but the legendary one has more of a slope and a visible center of
Starting point is 00:05:50 balance and stuff so it reminds me of that thing that lanny patura told me when it went to ross mania is it like oh here in dallas we have the biggest fucking tv but houston was like fuck that no you don't we're gonna make one the scientists go you can't yeah they literally maxed it out that the world can't support anything bigger you'll put us off its orbit we'll see right yeah the uh the the only question remains is uh will godzilla figure out his problems
Starting point is 00:06:22 before the end of the movie and have everyone from the past come together and say congratulations ross flopping its little wings hey oh uh it's good that you made that point spraying poison gas everywhere yeah congratulations godzilla it's interesting that you made that point because ano just went on like you know an interviewer tier he's like i'm not doing another one of these ever like that like that that's all he really said and the general consensus is that he hated working on this thing because toho toho is notorious in the last i don't know all right a couple decades where they
Starting point is 00:06:54 make the the filming uh experience for the director miserable because there's so many mandates it has to be like this way blah blah blah they control a lot of it um and he's like i'm never gonna be doing again and please i don't worry evangelion fans i'll get back to making worse and worse movies i'll continue digging this series deeper hedeakiano is japan's um uh allen more yeah he kind of has the look to you think yeah it's the closest metric i think kind of hates everyone
Starting point is 00:07:26 and everything did allen more dig watch been into the ground or allen no dave gibbons am i am i confusing allen more is the guy who wrote the comic yes yes yes bed did he continue digging his legacy series into the ground like hedeakiano well no because that wasn't entirely up to him well that's what i'm saying did he do it it wasn't because ano did i know it wasn't okay dc okay every time so more still more still got a bit of a high ground on this one yeah the shitty follow-ups to watch
Starting point is 00:07:58 men the shitty follow-ups yeah they weren't by him that weren't by him okay i thought so given to drew the original watchman was a part of that watch yeah he continued illustrating the relaunch thing and those things are considered miracle man and all that stuff like every time allen more does something he usually gives up as this guy i like this guy this up-and-comer this wizard you don't need to give up machine but i guess i got a built right in what's the equivalent of like because ano did carri cano which is super happy go lucky a couple dating times and is like is there anything like that under allen more's belt i guess
Starting point is 00:08:31 promethe is kind of happy but not really no clue no idea hard in that but other directors that have worked on god's little movies have said like oh no never again this is it's like you know the choke that's shitty here that toho is kind of the problem in kittimura ever get one yeah final words final words was kittimura yeah okay to be fair though all these movies are vastly kittimura feels like kittimura did it and like for all intents and purposes shin godzilla seems like it's anos you know yeah so even if they have this stranglehold on the directors they make their own shit which is still felt good yeah i've seen all these great gifts of
Starting point is 00:09:12 a version of godzilla in this new movie having all these tantrums and freaking out i i'm not gonna i don't want to go into like spoilers or whatever but like for those that don't like research the movie at all like godzilla evolves during the course of it and uh there's one into the spoilers well i mean in every movie you guys just did it well i mean what what else what'd you do this week holy i'm gonna dig my house itself a hole if i keep going dig up no uh dig up myself well okay um i guess i can say like i i started off by finishing off um started off by finishing off uh fuck i'm sorry i'm getting there i finished off that's fine too um it's a god damn phenomenal series i'm a bit confused now because it's we
Starting point is 00:10:07 season four just ended okay and now we're basically like it's almost like the british office in a way where you're like okay you've clearly probably gone further than the original show did and you're probably gonna be around for how long i don't know like when's what's the expiry what's what's happening yeah you know because i don't know um i know that the british seasons go up to three and then end and i don't know what happens or whatever but like it's a bit weird because it's like wow i expected this to be done by now but it's actually still going it's just carrying on yeah and i haven't seen it all british shows are weird and that they're like three or four seasons of five episodes each yeah yeah i know a lot of them at least house of cards
Starting point is 00:10:54 is a show that's based a lot on uh upward momentum right an escalation of situations and there's a certain point you hit where there's nothing more to escalate to yeah exactly yet we're still finding ways it's like when the crescendo of the song goes higher and higher and you're like you're at the peak point and you can't when's the beat gonna drop but then it finds a way to jump another octave that's not on the piano you know what i mean yeah it's like it's what what the off the piano keys yeah there's a second piano there's dog notes getting played is it good though it's great okay good really good good though but it's just so confusing that it's still going you know um speaking of netflix luke cage spoiler cast today well i mean i'll tell you what
Starting point is 00:11:41 but i'll tell you what remmy dentin from uh house of cards yep plays the main villain yes he does cottonmouth didn't know in luke cage did not know now i don't think i don't know if we're can spoiler cast because i know we cannot i didn't either it was bait oh okay because i'm about halfway through though yeah no i'm a little ways in as well so i'm all i have like one episode left actually okay it's quite good i'm i'm i think i'm on episode six so maybe next week we could is it quite good so here's where yes we'll see when we talk about it here's that was bait yes we're just using that fucking fish hook shot screenshot there with the the fish mouth open oh i mean no specific one i was thinking of more than mad max was bait that's bait that's bait
Starting point is 00:12:28 that's a good one i like that one but i would go for the the the gilgamesh variant of the fish hooks i like that one i appreciate unlimited works that was a little bit works a little bit works actually not the gilgamesh one but i like that one too there's there's the guts one yeah where he's he's got the red eye and he's seen bait before uh but anyway uh jpeg artifacted low quality bait gotta do it is a good one so so my initial impressions of luke cage are oh by the kasa cards fucking phenomenal watch it um luke cage like i really like what they're doing i like the style the music is yes definitely 12 on 10 uh all their all their choices to the chief yeah yeah yeah all their all their performances and they're clearly like showing off like people
Starting point is 00:13:15 that are known and some people that are unknown you know they're getting like lots of lots of amazing musical choices they're live acts and um otherwise a score you know yeah uh when characters open their mouth and start talking though it's just the funniest thing because it's like it's not it's totally good i enjoy it yeah but it's like you know luke black black blackity black black black black Harlem black black well black black black black basketball black black black african black black but you know what when luke talks to other people he's not black black black how dare you black black call me that black black black right and then he'll go a bit like but then i gotta save the like dude do you not appreciate the urban authenticity yeah i know and in the
Starting point is 00:14:06 middle of like i'm in the middle of like the beat down he'll take some moment to be like look around you see where you're standing black black black black black black and it's like yeah okay well these random ass thugs probably don't black black black and then girls coming up on the side like luke black black black black you know and it's just like wow we are fucking that's what opportunity not to call it marvels blackity black it's really in there and it's and it's and it's and it's like it's unabashed and there's nothing to back off and i enjoy just keep doing it i enjoy 95 percent of it but there's always the moments where it's like yeah you went too far it's like all right now you're just hamfisting it in you're getting every like you're going down the
Starting point is 00:14:52 list of uh black history month heroes yeah and you're making sure everyone gets a quote in there you're making sure every every notable player even the intro look at all these really influential streets yeah right and you've got big shot of biggie you got it like that's it black black that's in there you know and then of course cottonmouth's like exactly black black black you know like everyone's got their thing and it's fine but ultimately it's still a superhero marvel story yeah and i enjoy that what i'm missing so far is what actual episode do you think are like your midway or what i think i'm on six okay right so what i'm missing so far is uh the same thing that just same problem jessica jones had where you're not you don't have
Starting point is 00:15:41 great choreography or tons of combat you do not you have very basic action it's it's a bit better than jessica jones but daredevil but it doesn't touch daredevil in jessica jones yeah because jessica jones jumps the screen cuts awkwardly and then she no there's a lot of fake fights she grabs a guy by the collar and in the next shot he's across the table you know but then jessica jones is never trying to be a combat show right but luke age should have good combat it should have more yeah and the thing it's not bad but it's and you see that it could be better daredevil right they actually get choreography whether it's gunplay or martial arts that's actually daredevil's strength exactly and i you know for sure that iron fist is gonna be the same but yes right now better page
Starting point is 00:16:26 is mainly just on the politics on the street level yeah and you're not getting a ton of real like fights per se you know or at the very least you're not getting it from luke uh the the problem with i think that what that stems from is like hey let's make a tv show and have compelling action scenes with a guy that can't be hurt yeah so there's like what are you but he but then he has to do it then he has to do that but then like the the the fucking cost of that making that look really good and having big scenes they're like uh we we can't do this because yes this character can do this and we can't make this thing be cool but that's not gonna take all well well so there well there was a moment uh where you get the equivalent of your daredevil um stairway
Starting point is 00:17:11 sequence yeah right where it's like luke goes in to a big place and takes care of business but it's like you could have at least filmed that in a way that was like more interesting not a single shot necessarily but you could have done more with it and you could have you know like had him just him be more interesting in his movements right and that kind of leads into the next thing which is again loving the show in general but the two complaints that what i just said and the fact that i miss good old sweet christmas shit talking luke cage right the the the luke cage that we know from the comics is one that talks so much shit he is like shaft right and what we have here is a guy that's just much more stoic and much more like
Starting point is 00:18:01 black captain america nicer soft spoken even way more soft spoken and i think that the reason why that's the luke cage we have is because the actor's range is not huge it doesn't feel like he could pull off those lines those really sat like sassy in a huge asshole yeah you know like i'm not quite saying like dola might but he but like you need he luke cage is at least 75 black dynamite you know what i mean and and and right now you really just have the big hunk of man meat that just and he is buddy don't get me wrong that's kind of his thing yes and but he says the right things and does the right right he's full of the matters i haven't really he's more steve rogers i haven't really read any comics with him in the past so i'm not i'm not super familiar with that
Starting point is 00:18:53 sure how to be black no never you should read i wanted to i wanted to okay so a perfect example of what i'm talking about let me see if you own that one right matt sorry you own that one right i own several copies of that i'd love to read it uh let me see if i can pull this up i as well can glean something from from the lessons you too will learn how to be black hey no that's the screenshot of dr doom narrate this woolly this is why i was to explain to liam the difference between the one we have oh i've seen this before i've seen this dr doom says when my men reported a crazy black man in the fantastic fours craft i knew it had to be you and he's either worth my money honey you know and it's like like dr doom would be like oh well do you want like like lat
Starting point is 00:19:33 varian dollars yeah you can't do anything with that and i am not your honey you know and like and like in secret wars are rather in secret war when they land in lat varia and he's looking around and like he sees nothing going on and he's just like i just raised the black population of this country by 200 percent you know yeah like in the show he does have one liners but they're not particularly it's not the same it's not the same tone they're not sassy one liners they're just like uh cool they're just one you up yeah you know like a tough guy they're not even that cool you know he got a sweet christmas in there but he gets a few more don't worry but i really that's what i'm missing i'm just missing the like the luke cage that makes me go like oh shit in the same way
Starting point is 00:20:15 that black dynamite shaft right dolomite and every other black exploitation here right yeah because let's be real blood power man that was what it was power man is a fucking black exploitation here i'm pretty sure that they're modeling this after the more modern luke cage which you have not read i assume the uh no the more modern luke cage is the the one from secret war like yes i he still talks sass okay he still talks sass yes it's just not like i get a feeling well he's been keeping track like the black exploitation thing is not has not been really a thing the fucking no the fro look in the headband thing is yeah that's long gone but he always there are more subtle ways to black splay he always was a guy where like like super bunny hop it's
Starting point is 00:20:59 like yeah it's like when spider man is is is on the page you expect his panels to be interesting dialogue or when deadpool's on the page expect him to be like oh i want to read what he has to say it's gonna be funny luke cage is one of those guys he's got something funny to say okay you know but you're not really getting that part of his character in this show you know you know what luke cage i i barely remember that in the middle one with the black leather coat and the little gray jeans and boots and little red shirt do you remember the 90s luke cage uh well i there was a point when he just had it wasn't a fro it was just a shaved yeah that's the one down here yeah he had a black black leather jacket that's teaching punish abby black luke cage that's the one i'm like who
Starting point is 00:21:43 right i'm more familiar with the 70s disco uh power man and like and another one the one that's like been in video games in comics i see a lot right hanging around with iron fist a whole bunch yeah and wearing flashy suits walking around grabbing his dick what grabbing who's his owner kind of his thing that's what you gotta do that's kind of my thing what i do okay but uh no but yeah that i think it's i think it's so far it's i'm it's an enjoyable show and i like the street level story that's being told uh i buy into it a little bit more than daredevil although king pin is a really cool king pin's fantastic yeah king pin is still the strongest villain in any of the marvel shows but uh hit him in purple man yeah i beat purple man easily i think he's better but
Starting point is 00:22:36 purple man's close but yeah i i like what's going on here like uh and and it's really interesting because like like the cottonmouth aka ramy dan like he's usually the like big hunk of man meat in in house of cards but they put him on fucking camera next to this dude it's like oh it doesn't compare you got nothing man sorry it's fine though um i went to the lumina forest uh i this is a place up in a like two hours outside of uh motri all called koate cook and basically yeah that's where the ice cream's from it's basically not an yeah uh it's what they did was they're like some people had a park and they're like how do we get people to come to our park and put some lights in it that's the voice and they just put they went up alright they put some lights in it and then they're like
Starting point is 00:23:24 this is kind of cool trickery but then they hired like some actual like set designers right and production people to get in there and do some real fucking so they tricked you into thinking it was a good forest yeah and it was actually really sick uh took some cool photos had some kind of good time the um all in all it's about an hour's like trek worth of stuff right like slight hike across you go across like a bridge and then you get this whole thing um but it's just lights and sounds in in a forest that's all it is like i don't want to oversell it for something that it's not but for what that for like it's the best version you can get of that or at least it has some of the best ideas okay because there's a lot there's some parts of it that i would like eh they kind of
Starting point is 00:24:11 tried to set up a k-fabe where it's like fairies are following you through the forest and if you whisper your wishes to the and it's like alright why didn't you buy into that show me because you could have had your wishes but they didn't execute fully they they they fell short on the real fairies there's moments where you walk around and you see like uh what looks like an act like you like oh is there an actor up there kind of dancing with a firefly no actually that's a hologram and then like the devil comes out and attacks her and then it flashes and uses a real crucifix at a chapel in the background for children it sort of is supposed to be but then it gets scary sometimes hey the children have to learn about the devil sooner or later it's it tries not to be too
Starting point is 00:24:51 unpredictably scary except for when you go to the bathroom which is way off and you walk through like way up away from the trail that is like the show and then there's still lights leading you over to it and then about halfway beyond uh the the the trek you get sounds of shit in the forest coming at you it's not just people in the bathroom shitting in the forest no no it's like shit's going down other shit in the forest like who's all that and like laughter and stuff you know but um the coolest thing i saw while i was there is this is some tech that needs the should have been the whole show is how good this tech was they took the have uh you round the bend and you see a tree and you and it's right next to like a stone a large stone wall right and you
Starting point is 00:25:38 walk by it and the music's playing and all that shit then out of the corner of your eye the trees roots start moving a little bit and you're like what the fuck do you take a look at it right and woolly instantly starts stomping it and trying to kill it and basically suddenly the tree the all the roots come alive and then a face appears on the tree and then the tree itself lights on fire and then all these spiraling fairies and lights and like like like almost like a navvy like like rotate around it and the tree goes dark and then it looks like you're looking at a negatree and then you're like what am i and then like the background and then the rocks themselves explode and a shadow of a person peeking behind the trees and like what you're looking at is they
Starting point is 00:26:22 took a video footage of this tree or a photo of the tree and then they uh video edited all this shit and projected it back onto the tree that's cool so the texture of the tree in the rock from a distance looks the same together really well but then it starts moving and it's only when you get really close to it you're like that's a projection onto the same texture so you wouldn't have a way of catching it until something's off with it yeah that's cool you know really good technical that um then as you get near the end and it turns into the upside down you get to this moment where there's a large cliff side and a river and then they just put these like almost like disco ball like crystal shards around with tons of refracted volumetric light
Starting point is 00:27:07 um points hitting and you get uh the one of the screenshots i tweeted out which is just a rainbow crystal like area where the trees ground water just all over the place everything's covered in color and it's just beautiful it's just beautiful um so yeah fun trip it sounds like if you ever feel like heading out of town and did it in one day and got back um the lumina forest or lumina forest that uh i believe is worth checking out do it play some of the witness not done yet we'll report more back when i finish are you are you enjoying it thoroughly um i am having some of the discoveries i'm making are like i it's some of the most satisfying feelings i've ever had i think it's i think it's maybe the best puzzle game i've ever played i've never
Starting point is 00:27:59 felt like like the the little like the click when you when you get that moment of uh not inspiration but um the epiphany the epiphany the epiphany like i feel like it's a shot of morphine you know what i mean like it's amazing my veins every time yeah because holy shit that feeling never gets dull and uh you feel like you're you feel like you've obtained almost like the eye of god in a way where you're just like i see everything because it teaches you but at the same time you teach yourself how everything works you know what i mean like it goes both ways where they show you some basic stuff and then but then you have to really apply it intelligently yeah it's nuts i'm i'm thoroughly enjoying that it's god damn amazing i think it's the best puzzle game i've ever played like it's
Starting point is 00:28:48 incredible mortar report when i actually get through it though i have quietly and stealthily continued playing it throughout the year because i know like the only thing i've ever looked up was um how many puzzles there are what's the number because on your save file you can see how many puzzles you've solved yeah what's the number yeah and i've just been slowly chipping away at that and i'm still missing like 50 uh but i found another ending like a few months ago and it fucking blew my mind when i saw it interesting amazing i just because i completed uh an area and then wandered into something that makes no fucking totally different yeah and i'm losing my shit right now a little bit at what's going on you'll you'll figure it out eventually uh no matter
Starting point is 00:29:34 what it is you'll figure it out eventually isn't it the stone wall world champion the witness is the stone wall champion of the earth you eat it hard because it doesn't it doesn't react no it is the ultimate at just being straight faced in your failure i uh jonathan blow is sitting in the chair behind you and not doing anything he's just watching as nothing that's it um i i started preacher i watched the first episode just to form an opinion on it and it's fucking weird it is weird it is weirder than the comic i'm i'm i'm holding on to what you told me and what others are saying gotta get through it but wow was that not the the pilot i was expecting yeah how about that very first scene i know the preacher and then sitting there and explaining uh to to my girlfriend
Starting point is 00:30:26 afterwards and i was like okay so here's what the comics were yeah yeah that's a rough explanation because when me and liana were watching we both read a you know not all the comic so i can imagine someone that hasn't hasn't read the comic and you're going all right so what's coming up oh no wait was this and you were confused when things very much so so i'm like i'm so we get through it and like like she gets same reaction as me she has was just what the fuck is going on this is really weird but yeah here's what is supposed to happen and here's what they did so i don't know i mean there's some stuff that i enjoyed but ultimately i'm juries out on me right now but it's pilot episode what can i say yeah uh you know i i took it took me about like episode five or six were
Starting point is 00:31:15 up until that i was like i don't even know if i like this it's not bad it's just i wish i hadn't read the comic because i could probably enjoy it a bit more but it all really wraps up in the first season i was like you know what that was actually all all together all together that was that was pretty good i enjoyed it by the end of it so um and the only other thing i did was let the voice of love take me higher because i don't know if either of you have seen the new jojo intro oh yeah yeah i have yeah it's it's very very good fucking good yeah isn't really like yes it's incredibly good i go for a crazy noise bizarre whatever i remember noisy bizarre town everyone was kind of yeah i'd seen it was like i don't i think it's the weakest one i still think it's
Starting point is 00:32:01 not good i enjoyed that but and people thought it was the weakest one i thought it was to fit the tone uh but is it the weakest one the new shirt the new one no uh crazy crazy noisy bizarre town is probably the weakest okay that's fine i think it's the weakest and i think that none of the season four ones will ever capture the dynamic action that the cg ones were able to because they're 2d and the era of that level of animation is gone and we will never get it ever again thanks david production uh thanks david production um but openings two and three are a lot better than crazy noisy bizarre bizarre town in regards to their animation and yeah and uh they fit the tone very appropriately versus say stardust crusaders where it's much more of an action show so i and you
Starting point is 00:32:53 you really the in-your-face action opening is way appropriate for that i still knock chase though because the acoustic version is awesome but i still feel that the music like it's not what i i was expecting have you listened to the lyrics though you know the lyrics the lyrics are good okay that's what i'm saying that's what i talked about i talked about how yeah okay when you listen to the lyrics uh it's super awesome it all makes sense yeah but like and it made me like the song more but i still feel like it wasn't like a jojo opening feeling song um yeah it didn't really feel like the first three seasons it felt like it could have been more of a bleach opening you know but uh this fucking song god damn it great days very good i am all i like i i got so much hype
Starting point is 00:33:39 after watching that again and again and again and i'm just like this what rewatching this intro just makes me love jojo more like i that's that's the power of intro it really feels right though like it had it captures the tone that i want the rest of this part of diamond is unbreakable to be it captures like the again the colorfulness the the the the joy of crazy noisy bizarre town that it was trying to get to and it just fully fully embraces it while still hinting at the dark things and i'm still implying yeah like that there's bad shit there's bad shit happening in this town but they're gonna fucking make you watch the latest episode yeah how did rohan move the baby like that yeah i don't even but don't worry i think you could come up
Starting point is 00:34:25 with a new weekly segment of the podcast is hey jojo how did blank blank blank how did the blank how did he move the baby like that but but really and truly uh it's every i it's still too early for me to set where it is to me on my list on the opening tier list but it's really very high to me it's really really hard to watch it because i think there's some weaker ones like i like the opening analysis by the way yeah i like the opening to the first season a lot but i think the visuals are kind of like not as interesting as the future ones like season two and three like i had all the manga panels and stuff i don't really feel that as much as i like the season two and three it's nice but like two and three really showed that they don't need that
Starting point is 00:35:13 and they can just go beyond that and actually be what was on the pages instead of showing the pages themselves what um though i always it is it does look good i'm not saying it's bad or anything it looks great but i always like to me it's like i'm always looking at the full package here you know and it's like whether a one song is stronger than the other but the visuals are a little bit weaker you gotta make a judgment call on it i am and uh i am in the case of like the first intro like i i do agree that like they can be more without the panels but i thought the panels just led they they add to the legacy i think it's more that like you look at season two and three and see how much they improved with the cg and it's like between those two things i'm like
Starting point is 00:35:51 yeah it does look it's a weaker but sonoshino satame it's good it's really good that song yeah the king on the throne and you're never you you come at the king you best come correct you know like fucking come on like oh my god so uh yeah there's just you could over you can see overflowing hints and pieces of lore and things to analyze that i'll leave to our buddy mother's basement because part this new intro is like just it's jam packed but it's absolutely one of my favorite i i hope we see some kind of ending variation as well that should be fun cool yes very yes did you watch thunderbolt fantasy yet i did not fuck man take a quick word from our sponsors i thought it was going to be the letter a game fly game fly okay i know this is a video game
Starting point is 00:36:42 rental service no this is one of the one of the ancient old uh staples yes absolutely kids would play games is through the rental service system whether it was heading out to your local video store mom and pops uh we had a place called uh schwa they got the job done i'm sure yeah but uh those things are are gone now we're adults we've moved into the we're moving into the future and i think blockbuster shut down a that's not doing much either but there is that those those ancient ruins those ruins in that jungle of blockbuster that was awesome and honestly the plain truth of it is you can beat most games in a weekend also all of them really also we live in a world with the internet yes we do and so the internet brings us game fly dot com ah okay where
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Starting point is 00:39:08 good it is on strings uh i also saw lucage like uh you and i'll just quickly go through like kind of like how you did things i like and things i don't like uh like you said music and amazing but they're probably the best score of any of the netflix easily oh by a country fucking mile right there's nothing coming close to it um 12 on 10 and like all the actors whatever i think everyone's really good and the dialogue is a little sometimes it just feels a little off sometimes it doesn't feel authentic and sometimes it does depends on the actor depends on the actor yeah um you're you said you finished that you stopped at episode six so seven or an eight are where i went oh oh no because jessica jones has one of those moments yeah it's i wouldn't say it's
Starting point is 00:39:58 similar but they take a different story tact where i was like whoa that's interesting and then they don't really do anything interesting with it they spend about one episode and a half where lucage kind of just goes all right i'm gonna go over here now and it's all about misty night and i'm like that's this isn't interesting anymore this isn't about her why is it going on so much yeah but her name is so cool mercedes night misty night i don't but she's not that interesting like she's cool no no she's just a detective and then all these shows there's always like seven detectors running around there's always a copper in daredevil there's there's they're all hanging out meeting up now yeah they're all buddies yeah and and i'm at episode 12 now it's at 13 and it gets
Starting point is 00:40:45 worse and worse after that point i feel it doesn't recover okay i'll i'll temper my expectations a little bit uh they just do things with certain care not lucage lucage is always pretty solid in what he does and his story but everyone else around they start going hey how about this happens now how about this and i'm like no no no no no go back to american gangster where it had the two guys and they're they're they're having a war for harlem that's the story that up until episode seven i was like yeah i'm really liking this i i love the actor that plays con mouth i think he's great he's fantastic he's he's damn good at his job and i was really up my favorite like since you've already been there my episode is where lucage gets a suit yeah and starts cracking heads yeah
Starting point is 00:41:32 to solve people's problems i was like oh this is awesome and like and like and like and because they're staying true to harlem like dapper dan comes out and holds his suits up and it's like they're they're doing they're doing the whole like full-on homage to this area you know like that we got the history in there we got the writers on we got the blacky black black black like and it's like it isn't like does does that ramp up at all you know that's the only thing i want to know is like if the excitement is not is not quite nailing are they ramping up the blackness no i think it's remains this the the appropriate levels of black throughout like are they not just are we not going to get like like martin luther and fucking x as stands just coming out mudamuda
Starting point is 00:42:09 and aura orang while the two of them stand there and just point at each other i think it's i think it's about the same okay all right what i see no black gift i you had a dream whatever my stand has a dream uh claire temple having the biggest role out of all of the netflix marvel shows is awesome love me rosario give it give me more make her she's a comic character claire temple is a comic book character make her an actual giver powers give me that spin-off show yesterday i want to see more anyway um but until we finish it all always happy to see her face although so far
Starting point is 00:43:04 that's all i've seen well she's yeah she's she's she's but i know she's just she becomes a main stay character of the rest no it's the fun part about these street level stories is is catching uh cameos and crossovers yeah yeah well you're like hey you're that guy from uptown yeah yeah you're doing down here about that and also them going i was it was nice that someone said went like oh i like that frank castle shooting up all over there that guy with the hammer what a death they need to calm those down they need to calm the incident every single in new york you see like all right you gotta do it on the street like yo man we got shots of the incident whatever you whatever you need any angle okay i got in four k dude with the hammer the big green man all that
Starting point is 00:43:47 shit it's like yeah all right all right can they not say the names well it's they're trying to make they say tony stark i wish they would just say the names because i wouldn't feel like it was trying to be special about it but i think they think that like it feels too connected and forced i think they should be closer honestly like you know i think this like this semblance of distance is weird when it's the same it's the same unit and i also think they don't want to undercut the hero they're telling the story no and they and they should be telling you captain america is fucking awesome you know what hold on now captain america's name should be super public tony stark's but yeah anyone call hulk hulk no he doesn't have a name he's doctor batter he's doctor batter
Starting point is 00:44:30 yeah but no one even knows that the everyday person might not know that maybe they do and thore might not have had a press release for me wait wasn't there was there like a newspaper thing that led to him being called the hulk or was it just like you're thinking of the incredible hulk with edward norton where a college student is talking to a report it says it was this big thing it was like this like this hulk yeah but no one calls him hulk in the movie but then captain america says hulk smash and he goes in avengers but captain america said that to hulk little kid on the corner didn't say that i don't know maybe it's as hard to say they say frank castle in the show but his name should also be known because he had a big public trial dare devil is not called dare
Starting point is 00:45:12 devil no he's not no no he's a devil of hell's kitchen at least that makes sense at least people aren't saying it that way but you know um i like you the fighting is not great it's better than jessica jones but it's still awkward and just not really exciting yeah i would have expected more yes and i only got four episodes in by the way because i never came up but i expected more of the fighting there's a moment where uh you see like well whatever you see backstory yes and like it's up and it's it's fighting in a place where it's like you would expect now a fully choreographed battle here oh yeah you do i know what you're talking about you know what i mean it's it's like you're seeing backstory so you're seeing you know before things went down and you should see a fully
Starting point is 00:46:02 choreographed fight here and you know but it doesn't really play out that way and that's where i'm like okay no they actually just are kind of underselling this part of the show it's kind of like the early stages of Game of Thrones where they're like we don't have a budget yeah yeah knock them out wow what a crazy fight that was yeah man did you see where that guy's head went flying oh you see that cool pair he's so cool man look at his body's lying around we can pay for we'll never show that fight again yeah exactly do they just go full crust all the kids are like as as for what did i fight choreography that i did see well we'll talk about lucaja maybe when
Starting point is 00:46:46 we've all finished it but yeah i want to know if you guys also get to that point where after episode six i kind of went like this this slows down i'll let you know i'll let you know but um at a movie night with a pizza pasta for us you watched some van dam movies because of course one of the greatest actors of our time yeah it's my grandma's favorite actress van dam wrote and i was produced what and i suppose you watch john claude van johnson it's not a joke what is this it's a new show that he's in called john claude van johnson i've never heard of this okay well uh it's like post jc vd right where it's like it's his new show i don't think so but it seems to be a it sounds like it would be a sitcom yeah it's like a new
Starting point is 00:47:29 show where it's basically it's like yeah an old an old martial arts actor slash um oh he's not he's not john claude van dam in the show he's undercover as be the worst undercover operative ever yeah and it's just and like it's his new thing and like i saw like is it a serious toned show uh i i i i i got a link to it but i didn't actually okay because it sounds like it should be silly i read the summary like dad what are you doing doing the splits again it's the only thing i can do the first 10 seconds were pretty dead serious but uh i don't know but yeah that like uh that's the image in the show didn't include that in 1991 van dam wrote produced and stars in two roles in double impact where he plays twins yes one that gets brought up in hong kong and one that gets brought up in
Starting point is 00:48:16 los angeles and for some reason they both have french accents and for some reason they worked their bodies out the exact same amount just their heritage anyway um so he produced this movie and he wrote it how many women do you think grab his dick throughout the movie six no fewer i'm okay no well shared between the two siblings six i say over under three over under three yeah the over under is three so three okay right on the money and and you get away with that because he plays two guys so one grabs his dick the first second she sees him the other gets his dick grabbed later on and then they both get their dicks grabbed at the same time all these girls are like we'll give you a good honking and he's like okay and they both they they both characters get a honk
Starting point is 00:49:11 all right it's crazy um and bolo young if you know bolo young is in this in one of his iconic roles of i am a super ripped uh asian man watch me make my pecs do the little jiggle thing jiggle jiggle jiggle it's fucking awesome it is terrible but uh i mean that's what you're going for if you're watching van dam in 1991 tarantino needs to get toes in his movies van dam needs to get his junk squeezed yeah what do you want a fair trade um i was here when ral julia had to grab his yeah yeah in street fighter that was good that great bison and guile sexy that strong anti-air to the flying kick blast psycho power out yeah like you ever see psycho punisher just grab a little lower crash psycho honker uh such weakness uh i was telling leon de blob two got uh put on xbox
Starting point is 00:49:59 one backwards compatibility and i was like now's the time i've owned de blob two for a couple of decades now never booted up and i love the blob one blob was fantastic had had some had some little problems specifically not being able to save also concepts got a little bit boring after a long time uh so he's like it's pretty fun anyway started up to blob two and i was like i did about three worlds and i'm like holy shit this is still just as good and just as fun and it's not as monotonous because you have a lot of variety where you have a lot of 2d underground sections in the game i think the second one's actually a better game yeah yeah i know i i played it on ps3 a bit but if you're 2d you can't see the surface is your color right no it's limited sections it's limited sections it's
Starting point is 00:50:44 just to go into the little underground like bunker to do a specific objective and you pop back out on the overall some of them you have to do and some of them you don't have to do okay it works to add variety though because yeah i see what you mean where it wouldn't work for the painting but but they don't even try for that um and it's just really fun like i i'm i'm i'm i'm sad that that developer is no longer a thing yes tongue because like for whatever reason the blob one sold so well when it came out on the we and they were like they're due to me almost accidentally dude they're not a thing because the australian dollar got too high and thq was like yeah we ain't doing that no more well that's why thq pulled out of australia so hard and all those companies shut down all at once
Starting point is 00:51:24 those doll i was still i was still working yeah too high yeah i was still working there at the time and it was too expensive i'm gonna switch the koala pelts yeah you're gonna have to give me how much is this coke that's five boomerangs mate but that's all my boomerangs anyway that's what they have in australia it's pretty good it's pretty good there was a busy week for the for the 3ds where i got river city tokyo rumble sonic fire on the ice and also this morning what's this package at 9 a.m. in the morning what do you what do you wake me up sir here's here's the thing it says gift and i look and it's from yacht club and it's a cool yeah bolt to nice striker pack or whatever yeah yeah i haven't opened it up yet but if there's the little cartridge for a
Starting point is 00:52:11 zero striker gun for one no it's one cart for both it's one car for both one car for both okay because i'm gonna say well i can use this as like i don't know a toothpick someone for one someone brought to my attention the second playable character yes and have you played it at all no but i looked at some video because i didn't want to get burned again i really love shovel night but i didn't want to get burned yeah and i looked at some footage and it looks like that character might be really fun i having played is that do you want to talk about azure 2 right now i might actually when we get on okay i'll talk about it i didn't actually play it oh you didn't play it okay i got i did play it so we'll get to that that might be my way back in i hope it is i really desperately
Starting point is 00:52:52 want to enjoy that series but i i uh what i did play is like i said river city tokyo rumble which i'm having a ton of fun with um it's it's really because whenever i played river city ransom on the nes i can only get so far before i have to lose i wouldn't know my objective because i didn't know where to go because that game has a confusing layout and like and no real map for the ts which usually the second screen is always used for bullshit like a map this one is really useful so i can see where i'm constantly going and have to have to do things and it's just it's the localization is so great it really feels like i'm playing a chromati game where there's classroom scenes where kudio it's just like hey what's up babe it's a kudio i'm your teacher stop calling me babe
Starting point is 00:53:40 whatever babe yeah oh shit i have to go beat up tocio nice i'm in a hurry this class i still need to buy that because i think i told you i ordered it on amazon but for some reason it was shipping straight from netsume and amazon wasn't stocking it themselves yeah there's some sort of confusion so i think i'm just gonna cancel that and buy a digital copy or something yeah maybe but i remember i actually confused this game with the one that's about to come out in japan that just got delayed they're crazy big one with all those features because the like i'm excited to play this one don't get me wrong but the the one that's coming out in japan the environments look fucking nuts like they put real work and i'll make in those stages look nice there's few things in life i
Starting point is 00:54:21 appreciate more than a good delinquent hero right high school delinquent hero and really if you didn't know this is almost like kirby superstar where you have like the main story yeah oh i saw i saw that ridiculous tea trailer that you have like a forward player fighting mode and you have a volleyball game a dodgeball game rather yeah um yeah and like they're double dragon sprites just show up yeah bobo is just there oh cool i like a bobo um it's in there um i want to continue playing it it's it's real fun so far and the other thing uh really quickly is uh sonic boom fire nice i played about two missions on that and so far i'm which version i'm what which version fire nice it's only on 3ds oh just one game it's called fire nice because that's that's the the gameplay
Starting point is 00:55:06 gimmick um it's these by the way that this is the sequel to the uh rise of no lyric no no no that was the we you version okay anyway yeah sen zaru a separate company who made sly cooper four they made a sly um sonic boom game for 3ds when the terrible sonic boom came out as well and it was pretty good this is a so i've heard it's an even better sonic boom sequel i never but it's actually good like sen zaru's been doing it on i've never played the 3ds version outside of when we played we played the demo at packs uh okay so wait what was that demo uh what game was that that packs prime sonic boom it has a subtitle but i can't remember that's what i thought fire nice was that game this is not that this is the sequel to that this is a second game why it's called why it's
Starting point is 00:55:52 called fire nice it's because you switch between a fire and ice power so if you the environments have a lot of fire and ice so if you're on ice you need to melt it you just with one like it's like polarity in uh icaruga okay just melt that go through that freeze that go through that uh and it's it's pretty fun i need to play more of it it has great sonic boom cutscenes yeah you tell me they have full cg nice would do they the voice actors everything nice yeah that's good that i was i was really impressed with that i was just like well that's a good way to start off i played um i played the the first one a little bit more actually um and not not a ton like an hour um and they really have their own feel sen zaru's games like yeah they don't feel like sonic rush and they don't feel
Starting point is 00:56:36 like the three i mean they're 2d obviously they don't feel like classic sonic they have their own thing going on but they feel really good when you're going around loops and stuff and what's really fun is like when you're going around loops and it's going really fast it's all auto going by itself and you get blasted into the foreground and it keeps going that's all really fun that feels like song to me but then there's those little extra bits like using the energy tether to swing but and it's a little bit slower so there's a little kind of decrease in momentum that's the sen zaru feel right there yeah yeah but it's not bad it's just it's different and you're just like okay i'm on my way it's not it wasn't intrusive it wasn't clunky it felt fine
Starting point is 00:57:11 and yeah no it's having a good time with it i i two missions is really not enough to really you know get a real feel for it but so like the boom games are like a third line of games now basically i say a second i mean if it continues past this well there's the classic technically since sonic mania is a thing now yeah there's and then there's the uh modern sonic adventure project you know and then yeah i guess this is a third one i mean mario has uh you know different styles of games there's no reason not to yeah well mario maker came out mario maker counts as a retro mario game so i think uh it's interesting yeah they're doing it is good i hope they get to keep making them um yeah because so far it's pretty good because that's the only series that has those
Starting point is 00:57:55 like has the show and the voice acting and that stuff going for it yeah so like it would make sense to like leverage that you know i think that's not like the only quote-unquote big western 3ds exclusive series that exists yeah let's say so like uh or maybe even big western you know maybe even big western handheld game that exists monster hunter i guess no west like not developed in japan sonic boom oh it's not a boom isn't made in it's not made in japan yeah exactly i mean it's a japanese franchise but yeah but it's like there's that was the big news when it was being made there are no other western handheld franchises these days not really and then they've done two games so far so see if that carries into nx and the last thing i played uh streamed about three agonizing
Starting point is 00:58:40 tiring hours of uh rise of nightmares where my knees were already sore that day and walked a whole bunch because a cab was like all this shit's blocked off you're getting off here i thought we were gonna do a full lp of rise of nightmares no i did but i got to do three hours at a time you can't do a full thing i know i thought i thought you and me were gonna do a full lp of oh well we will oh even even so yeah yeah okay okay but i'm not gonna play no i want i want to play it i already doing one fuck off i want to play it no no you need to back off i want to play rise of nightmares because stop telling me you want to play i got past the point of rise to nightmares where that's up until that's as much as i'd seen rise over rise to rise of but i say
Starting point is 00:59:21 to a lot okay rise i don't know why maybe the japanese version was called rise to wait there probably was no japanese version probably um so when jojo stuff starts happening and it does everyone in chat like like everyone went nuts i went nuts you start their pillar men start appearing i it was amazing because up until that point this was supposed to be some schlocky house of the dead all there's zombies there's a weird guy cutting up people and that's it that's all i had seen so when this shit starts popping off and this was stuff i didn't know about there's one spoiler i read about years ago that said that made me go one day i will either play or watch all this game because i have to see this take place yeah that's why i'm interested to play and this thing that
Starting point is 01:00:07 happened uh when i play past it it was something else entirely and it went oh my god this is so awesome and cool i was not expecting this so i had a real blast doing that i'm gonna try to continue that all month because i had a good ass time so james was right uh what'd he say he said it's a good ass game despite what you think so what i would like is this not going to happen say it would be stupid to do this but like it's it's such a money sink release this on something else now it is a rail shooter and you are on a rail but are you it's your character walking or because there's open areas where like are you in a mine cart or it's it's a rail shooter in the sense that you have none and actually played it no i haven't that's why i want to do this thing so you can walk whatever
Starting point is 01:00:50 and you walk by just jutting your your leg forward right and it works terribly as you can expect but also if you do a a hail to hitler with the connect it auto walks you to your objectives now you're in giant open areas and some objectives are such where it wants you to do platforming in which case it will not auto walk you through that because then there would be you gotta jump challenge uh but you're working with the connect so i don't know what it expects i just want someone to be walking by your window and just see you in full z-guile just standing in front of your tv fortunately i'm on like the third floor yeah it takes work just peering it and you're not moving you're just standing there doing the full just staring forward
Starting point is 01:01:33 all right i suppose if you're on the third floor across the street from me and looked in my window that sounds like a full on seinfeld's plot right there it was it was pretty good so i think my neighbor's a neo-nazi um but he's polish uh it was it was it was really fun and yes i would like to do a full help you on the channel i was like and i have like the little lapel mics because you can't oh did you buy lapel mics now are they are they better than the shit one i got i don't know probably then i don't know if it is i gotta shoot but it seemed to work great you just have to wear it down on your chest a bit lower because it was peeking a little bit turned down the game or something or turned down the game but i couldn't really because it was a very basic right thing
Starting point is 01:02:14 but i suppose you have to clip it to your tie now we have to wear ties now you got to clip it down ties too too close to your face anyway uh because we can't we can't use these mics because they'll interfere with getting away with the connect i'm glad you got those though because i want to use them uh it's a good time good stuff Liam wait hang on i didn't get my phone out so this week you played convolt this week was um and a lot i saw some people asking me about it already it was cube two hypercube was all right yes and i'm cube i'm really really upset actually because um i went to rent it and i didn't have enough i didn't have enough cash on me because i can't use my fucking credit card if it's under five dollars so the guy's like whatever just take
Starting point is 01:03:05 it and pay when you get back spring spring cash next time this movie yeah i recognize the guy i've been there enough yeah and so i go and i take it home and me and my girlfriend watch about 40 minutes of it one of the scenes skips like it's got like 10 seconds left and it skips and we're like ooh is there a scratch on the disc that's not good and then after enough scenes eventually they just start skipping wholesale and we and we're just like no we have to stop we have to stop watching that so made the movie better we got about 40 minutes in and we had to stop so it's a real bummer and i i'm gonna torrent it or something that feeling sucks and well and what sucked more was when i brought it back i was like i can't even tell him it didn't work and i don't want to pay for
Starting point is 01:03:45 it because i didn't pay for it but i won't and so as they thank you because he was a very nice guy i just paid for it it was only like a dollar anyway but like it didn't work guys so you know that was a real bummer so i didn't get to watch cube 2 hypercube really uh it it was really different so far and i was really asked to see what he felt about it no no nothing nothing oh you could have been like you know those you know that yotsuba comic where uh it's like he returns the movie and then yotsuba's just like daddy says this movie is shit yeah and she's like i'm sorry yeah no no no no it's okay it'd be great if old dvds had like a little note section inside the case let people write how they write a lot of games yeah i found all the continuity errors here they are
Starting point is 01:04:30 i watched the movie good i watched the movie i watched it better um i played lego city undercover a bunch wow which i've never i've never played before so i just started that uh matt you played it a little one a little bit a little bit that's the load times on that game the load times are nasty that's the we you exclusive uh lego title near launch uh spring summer whenever it came out um it's really fun and and the writing's actually on on point i'm really i really enjoyed it as an original story rex no i think rex is the villain oh yeah this is pre lego movie is it yes this is pre lego movie yeah so uh it's a grandfather's traveler's tales they made this it's an original open world gta style game where you play as a cop uh the writing's really enjoyable really like ham
Starting point is 01:05:16 fisted um not ham fisted really um turkey fisted turkey sure turkey whatever really hammy dialogue from from cop movies and stuff uh tons of tons of memorable quotes from other yeah that's exactly the tone basically holding a loose cannon yes like yeah well they're pretty literal sometimes it is the lego series so it's and every now and then you feel like there's a joke that's trying to hit but it's clearly for seven year olds and you're not seven so but then you hear a quote from dirty harry and you're like okay well who's this for so kids don't like dirty i find the lego games sense of humor doesn't always work because i feel like i do feel like having played two in the past two years a lot of the jokes are for very young
Starting point is 01:06:01 people and then some of the jokes are for adults for the parents and they won't and they won't hit the kids and i don't feel like i don't feel like anyone or many people get all of the jokes in and i feel like there's a lot of them that you end up just sitting through and looking at and going yeah it was a joke it's for daddy that was a joke that joke was for mommy like it feels like it's for a kid and a parent playing at the same time kind of but i am i am quite enjoying it it really makes me wish they take a stab at making another original one i you know i'm sure it's hard to want to considering how well the licensed ones do perform they do incredibly well for them you also like there's some bad ones out there because i i played a bunch and i tested a bunch
Starting point is 01:06:45 yeah you've mentioned before the mmo was a pretty good example of yeah that taking the full original concept and running away with it because you had this giant giant world with like different every place that theme was like a map you know what i mean yeah and um it was at the end of the day did it have like writing and a story and stuff yeah it in an mmo sense okay the sense that like yeah there was a story that would get you into the game and then you could kind of wander about and eventually you meet like factions that tell you okay yeah do things for your quest points but it ended up just kind of being very nothing okay you know like any other generic this this game is a bit better than that i i think to be fair travelers tales make seven of these a year something
Starting point is 01:07:31 like that you know some of them are they they have tt fusion to help but even then it's crazy that they have a sister studio just for more lego development yeah they mostly do like the handheld ones and stuff but uh it's jammed back to front with cutscenes and voice acting and again the like fully original story there's some licensed music in there that really surprised me offspring it's uh yeah man this is for a weird audience it's but it's really enjoyable the load times you're totally right matt are huge i'm surprised that never got at least a little patch at some point or something yeah i remember those yeah they must have went straight onto the 3ds version or maybe tt fusion just did that because that's their job um but it is good i'm excited to continue
Starting point is 01:08:14 it's only it's supposed to be only like 15 hours long so i'm already a good way through it i'm really just mainlining it because having played lego games recently i realized attempting to do everything any no attempting to do any extra stuff before you finish the game and unlocked all your powers is a complete waste of fucking time uh because you just walk to the end of a hallway and you see there's a little icon on the ground that's like you got to come back with this kind of person yeah and it's like well okay i just wasted my time walking on this hallway don't even try don't even try finish the game first um i played uh i guess i'll go right onto azure striker gunvolt 2 uh i played a good bit of song of diva cue it now ah now i'm not gonna play it i i played i
Starting point is 01:08:57 played four levels including the opening prologue level yeah um gun vault still feels the same more or less i read admittedly i haven't played gun vault more than once through so there might be bits of minutiae and stuff that are different but he feels more or less the same character does he have all of his abilities at least or is it that's the war that that gimp like level one version yeah no i think he's got everything if i remember correctly it's been a while since the first gun vault so uh the second guy is i wouldn't say he's more interesting so much as he's very different uh so he has these rapid fire shots that do damage and he's got these elaborate extended air dash that you have to hit the guy and then lock onto so so when you hit and if you run into
Starting point is 01:09:43 an enemy with the air dash it doesn't it doesn't bill you for the air dash you get it for free because you only can stock three at once and it locks and also it locks your shots onto that enemy so you're air dashing at enemies and then shooting them and while you're shooting in the air you fall a bit slower so he has a very very different system and and uh a different uh feel to his gameplay definitely having having played a bunch of levels as gun vault again i i really think and i i communicated with some people on twitter and the subreddit because they they expressed ire that we don't enjoy gun vault and i have watched multiple speed runs of it at hdq and other similar events and i totally get how you're meant to play gun vault i think the thing that
Starting point is 01:10:23 bugged me when i first played through it was the enemy drops and the items because i always felt like that was the specific moment where i would kill an enemy and i would start walking forward and then i would notice that an item dropped behind me and have to go back for it and enemies drop items all the fucking time so like i really think that because i've really been trying to look for what the thing the thing was besides like slowing down a little bit to use the lightening and stuff what else so i think those are the two things that always bugged me about the levels were always kind of way more way less interesting yeah the levels i've had a problem with the lows and guns where i'm like you're you're right they aren't that interesting either but the second
Starting point is 01:11:01 character has a very different feel that i prefer to gun vault but it's i wouldn't say it's outright a better feel it's very different um it's just more you well i feel like yeah yeah but it still has the same kind of pace as gun vault if i'm directly attacking and like you know and going after the enemies on the screen like if that already feels like it would be a change of pace because the locking on shot well so like the the reason it's like different and not outright better or anything is because so with gun vault you run up to it well you you get an enemy hit with your shots and then you chart you shock them right and in a lot of cases you kind of have to slow down a little bit because they're right in your way you know uh not all cases with this guy it's his name
Starting point is 01:11:45 i can't remember his name unfortunately um i'm not too big on the plot of gun vault since all it is is gun vault go collect women uh that's and they actually make fun of that at the beginning of the game where all gun vault does is goes and collects girls and jiao who is totally not a girl um the the the new guy instead of like land land shots and then kind of stand around and shock an enemy is you have to hit the enemy and then shoot them right but that lends to it kind of the same effect it's you slow down and then you slow down and you're kind of shooting them see that's what i was also but i found it felt better and i enjoy the second guy more and then you can dash again after that yeah absolutely right you don't have to touch the ground uh you do have to recharge after
Starting point is 01:12:27 three dashes three dashes you are charged for if you run into an enemy it doesn't bill you for it like you keep your like you keep your charge copin thank you that's his name but it's cool name yeah uh like that's that's that was the bit where i was like and i can see how this is still a gun vault character because you still have to lock yourself down a little bit yeah but i i prefer copins feel and so i've just been playing as copin for the most part i fought shovel knight once because you can do that at any point but i thought i'm there was the first thing i did when i went in the game was fight shovel knight and i lost horribly because i forgot how to play gun vault um but i'm gonna go back to that soon and i'm gonna find him with copin decimate yeah you
Starting point is 01:13:02 get to pick your character and have you been unlocking um like movement abilities with copin no not really copin has some good stuff though he has an ability where if you hold up while you dash he starts just bouncing off the walls and moving extremely quickly in the direction he has to go like automated wall jumps are there enough walls in the level to jump off in copin's levels absolutely like oh they're not the same levels i've only played as copin as so i assume they have different levels but i don't know as you know okay the tutorial makes you play as both and that was where i played as gun vault and i was like okay right this is gun vault okay let me never play as gun vault again and i picked copin and i've just been playing copin levels uh and thus far
Starting point is 01:13:45 yeah there's been applications for that move and it's really cool um yeah i've seen a lot of people being like oh why don't they like gun vault and it's just like for me it was always like dislike it i just don't want to play it like i was like i like these characters the name is cool the idea is cool yeah but like the music's pretty decent the sprite works amazing but like everything else like the level design the actual gameplay that's that's objective but i've always been like it's just not for me i don't find it particularly interesting and it's just like i just wanted it to be better you know yeah comes down to it i i i guess i i mean it sucks to say this about a new thing that's trying to be a new thing yeah but i guess i just wanted something that's more
Starting point is 01:14:28 megaman yeah and i didn't get it and like it it i'm sad that like i don't like a new thing that's you know but it's just it's what i felt well now it's been gun vault and mighty number nine where we're looking at him we're like uh is it yeah didn't really didn't really want either doesn't seem that hard but there you go yeah yeah even then shovel it's like it's a little different it's like it's not the same like mario castlevania yeah right because it jumps better than simon but he swings i could jump better than simon yeah it's true at least you can change the direction of your jump in the air like seriously barely when i fell in that moat oh but like imagine all the girls are pointing at me without the down thrust yeah like yeah yeah that's so that's a
Starting point is 01:15:13 way worse game it's you got you got like imagine duck tails without you got like a better version of slain you break you know me and woolly were talking about slain the other day and i was like i was like oh that game is not so hot you know but it turns out i backed it i guess so i was like oh damn really and woolly was surprised and then the next day he texted me and he's like i i guess i backed slain too i everybody back i forgot what happened to me uh i've been playing a lot of trials and tribulations i'm really just cutting through that because i want to i want to catch up i really want it uh i was late watch you don't need to do it just watch full lps of it takes the exact same amount of time i know no i saw some side by side screenshots of like five and six
Starting point is 01:15:58 is 3d models compared yeah they're incredible god damn there they're there they're one of the most amazing things have you seen the ipad version of five it dude with the resolution bump it looks nuts that game looks fantastic i'm i'm actually like not that i have no aversion to it being only on 3ds that's it's fucking fine but i i'm actually surprised that they haven't tried to release it on the we you or other platforms you know uh i guess they feel it's just people want that portable maybe yeah no i i know it's just the game's there and you're making it on mp it's a book yeah it's like maybe that's what they think i actually think it's cool they released it on ios and stuff because it fits the it fits the platform it's the we version of ace turned in solwell i don't know
Starting point is 01:16:45 i mean it's one of the most popular like handheld recognized franchises you know pop it's just well it's it's relatively famous nowadays i think yeah absolutely uh and i'm playing that i'm just catching up i'm in the the case with fake phoenix and it's a fucking it's a fucking blast that case true phoenix i'm almost at the end of it and it's going places i really didn't expect uh i play i should start speeding up i played darkest dungeon a bunch because that just came out on ps4 and vita i played both versions just to check uh the biggest problem find salvation no no i just had my first like complete party wife complete wife yeah it was fucking miserable back to the staples you go i unfortunately i had a bunch i had 12 other
Starting point is 01:17:28 characters so i was able to just go right back in and kill the boss again okay i was caught off guard by how the boss fought kind of and i realized my party wasn't at all suitable for that fight so dude like the worst is when you have a guy that like actually makes it through and generally has no diseases or yeah yeah you know what i mean someone you consider strong and valuable trust you yeah you got syphilis you got syphilis but like i sent you in with people that were a fucking they were the problem yeah and and not only that like i wanted to send you in with my other cool beast man but you said no you don't trust him i yeah i'm religious so i'm not gonna go in with that guy so you had to send them in with the shittier party and then they all fucking wipe
Starting point is 01:18:10 there's a lot of fun things like that where you have to consider whether certain party members are religious before you do things or like there was this one bonfire activity where it it uh it was gallows no it wasn't gallows humor it it was like making fun of god or some shit and all your religious characters yeah yeah and i didn't realize one of my characters was religious yeah because it wasn't like it wasn't as obvious like a priest or something like that i didn't wear like a giant cross on yeah it wasn't as evident so when that person took a sanity check like during the fucking campfire i was like oh god damn it uh why uh it's really satisfying when characters managed to overcome their sanity checks though yeah that that that's exploding like it's really good triumph there's
Starting point is 01:18:52 a lot there's a lot of care put into the animations and stuff um the only thing i didn't really i i gotta criticize them for this a little bit the ui is great on pc it really works it really has that kind of uh all all around control at all times of everything it's really easy you just click on your character and you click on the thing you want to do liam what did you play this on i played it on both ps4 and vita that i had to find out right i needed to see the difference i really gotta criticize them for not doing enough do you have a cursor no no no you don't god that must be the worst i it's a bunch of small windows so i yeah i really gotta criticize them they really should have put more work into making a new ui for hand for for consoles uh and i i know
Starting point is 01:19:38 that's an incredible amount of work i really am not underestimating how much that is but the ui that they put in is barely sufficient it they really could have done better uh many games have have adjusted their ui for consoles and this game just really didn't and they should have so on ps4 you're using l1 and r1 to scroll between your characters on vita you're using the left and right sides of the back touch panel which is just not not sometimes you have to act fast no you don't there's no there's no timing-based stuff at all in that game when you're when you're there's no timing-based stuff what am i thinking of when you're poisoned or bleeding it's based on steps you just stop moving you stop moving and your characters take no damage but either way
Starting point is 01:20:26 it's fiddly it's really fiddly and it is an absolute hurdle getting into it uh the ps4 version is a little better to control um just because it's got more buttons and such and even l3 and r3 are used like they really did use everything at the end of the day uh but both of them could use improvements and they they said on their on their darkest dungeon subreddit that they're going to look into ux improvements for uh consoles because it's clear that they need them but they're not there yet regardless the game runs fantastic and once you get over that hurdle it's it's darkest dungeon and it is fantastic and i'm having a great time with it but the first hour the most frightening thing about it was the controls and figuring out the ui like even being back in town there's so many
Starting point is 01:21:09 little things to click on all over the place i i can't imagine that being easy to do for a moment i didn't understand how to pick a certain type of quest and hit confirm because when i would try to scroll to confirm i would scroll over a different quest yeah and then that would be the selected one and i and i for it took me a minute to figure out oh well you gotta hover over the one you want and then press start like that's the thing because they don't tell you anywhere that you have to do that you know there there are fortunately uh thorough help screens that kind of tell you what the buttons are but the sheer breadth of stuff is not great and you can't just touch no yeah surprisingly the vita version doesn't support touch uh which i that seems like a bit of
Starting point is 01:21:51 an omission but uh these are really basic ports in that regard where they didn't take advantage of yeah they are very good ports uh and after the last patch that came out they there are already four patches in it's only been out since tuesday after the last patch the crashes are gone because that was actually an issue that they were kind of plagued with um and i i wholeheartedly recommend despite its issues because it is such a good game and once you get over that hurdle it's fine it's so addictive it's it's really fine yeah uh so i i wholeheartedly recommend it um and the last game uh that i'm going to talk about i got a review code with my mouth yeah exactly i got a review code for a super dimension neptunia which is the uh sega hard girls crossover one uh so you guys
Starting point is 01:22:37 have seen at least one episode of that show i think um really fun show my favorite sega hard girl is jeffrey mcquild yeah dude he jeffrey mcquild is a main character he's a main character in that show and if you haven't finished it i highly encourage you to because he gets more time in the spotlight than virtual fight or ever gave him and then he's gotten that he's gotten in his own games yeah uh and and i guess anyone out there go watch sega hard girls it's fantastic it's on crunchy roll and shit so um fuck i forgot to watch tiger mask yeah that's yeah he did good reviews so uh this game is not canon uh which is really good it's nice for the neptunia series to finally drop all the baggage because all the all the dream match it really is uh all neptunia is about is
Starting point is 01:23:25 of course uh personifications of the various consoles and companies and such um and over time it's really been bogged down by these like light fluff stories that ultimately are inconsequential and the games go through this really rote uh formula of like just go collect your characters in this ultra typical way not there's nothing special going on in any of the neptunia games honestly there's just nothing special going on really they're fine and they're fun but they're really bland i suppose and dropping all that baggage and putting one of the best characters in the series in the lead role which is the idea factory character which i know it's an odd pick but she's legit the best putting her in the leading role really helps it a lot she's one of the uh i guess
Starting point is 01:24:11 smarter characters she's not just an idiot all the time like like nepnep or anything um also relegating all the other characters to extremely minor roles where uh since it's not canon they've never met before they're not friends at the beginning they don't know each other and for all intensive purposes they don't matter and the only versions of them you get in their party or you get these clone versions of them who can't talk which means you're getting the best versions of these characters ever because they are there solely for their objective purpose and can't talk and i really appreciate that sounds like someone hated a lot of a lot of before a lot of the characters are junk 70 percent of the cast in an opportunity game suck they're nothing it's it's like i enjoy
Starting point is 01:24:56 playing them because it's fun and it's like it's easy to just get into and relax to it but like it is a hard otaku bait series it's not like like final fantasy or tales or or other you know original titles like lost odyssey and stuff where it's otaku bait but it's still a main yeah no thing going on neptunia it's the opposite it's like center and kagura and stuff it's hard otaku bait stuff and and a little bit of a thing going on and neptunia just ditching all that and finally putting one of the the the more thought-worthy characters in the main role is great and neptun's role in the game actually is fantastic because they transform her into a motorcycle that you ride around and you don't have to fucking worry about her because she's just a bike isn't there
Starting point is 01:25:40 some new series coming out called drive girls or something where girls are yeah yeah girls that's it's by the uh by the company that brought you bushido blade uh berksala light weight yeah exactly they're the first trailer for that came out it actually looks like a like not as good transformers devastation but it still looks kind of fun so well like you said last time we brought it up we're spoiled by devastation we're spoiled by devastation yeah but as a as a neptunia game that drops all the weight of the previous games and is not canon and doesn't require any knowledge of the other games to get into it introduces new mechanics like uh running hey that wasn't a thing running climbing uh it makes the environments more interesting right i can imagine getting to do
Starting point is 01:26:22 big jumps over gaps and stuff like that um it's it just feels like such a step above any other neptunia game that's come before it usually whatever anyone asks me hey should i get a neptunia game i always say honestly no get tail like because usually these people are coming on the on the vita i've never had people asking me about the pc versions but whatever i usually just say get oreshka get tails of hearts are heck even get criminal girls they're all better than the neptunia games but this one i definitely have to make a special distinction for this is probably the best neptunia game just because it omits all that other bullshit and it's it's an improved version of the core gameplay that was always relatively light uh i i actually do recommend
Starting point is 01:27:09 this neptunia game it is it is good and they did it and you don't need to play any of the other ones at all and doesn't seem like they might stick with this direction no no this is yeah so non-canon but so the fourth so it's a bit complex because the the the first the four games one through four they're made by compile heart right the remakes of one through three uh which are the vita and pc versions that are like the good versions they fixed the fucked up shit versions um those are made by a company called fellastella right um i think they made uh summon night five those guys um fellastella this is their first original neptunia game um and even the fourth neptunia game was made by compile heart so the reins were not handed over for fellastella to to be the mainliners i guess
Starting point is 01:28:02 but nonetheless fellastella kicked compile hearts ass and made a much better game um the sega hard girls aren't in the game quite as much as i would want truth be told they're kind of uh you travel between four different eras the uh megadrive era the saturn era the dreamcast era and the game gear era which weirdly gets its own era even though it's kind of just a sub time yeah it's handheld yeah i know they kind of they gave it its own era but whatever um and when you go to those eras it's always just like the the neptunia character versus the equivalent character so in the first area it's neptune versus saturn um and it kind of just boils down to a bunch of cutscenes and they don't really fight so uh but the core game is good and i i do recommend it if you're out for a neptunia game
Starting point is 01:28:50 because it's the best one it's okay and if you really like the neptunia plot i'm sorry it's not that good i'm sorry i don't know i'm sorry it's not that good i don't know drive girls looks good the plot of that looks great a lot of that looks good yeah a lot of plot some of the characters have backstory they're all cars they're all cars man did you watch the the gameplay trailer for it also it's got drifting and it's got racing around it actually looks like a everyone stop telling me about kaiju girls i'm not really into it yeah no i what i want i looked at it too and i was like no this is what i want is that image that i retweeted a few days ago of this cute american girl wearing a big-ass costume of legendaries godzilla and she's holding the american
Starting point is 01:29:40 flag and she'd just beaten one of the mutoes and i'm like that's the show i dug the the art you've probably seen it before too of um uh giant girls dressed as uh pacific rim robots yes punching around that's what i want for kaiju girls too yeah i'm not exactly what i'm looking for so speaking of not what i want oh nithog two was announced nithog two good sex good segu i'm you know what i would take nithog girls nithog girls i would just be yellow stick girls yeah with swords i'd take that i'd take that over this fancy yellow and orange dresses hey so did you watch the the gameplay for this game uh is there more than the 17 seconds now oh yeah there always was yeah because it was there was a stage thing on twitch twitch con uh right after the trailer
Starting point is 01:30:29 and there's about 20 minutes of gameplay maybe uh i know i watched i watched it all so just for context all i've seen is that 17 seconds okay hey nithog two was announced yay this is what it looks like it's been a long time since the game now what was that analogy you gave about the change in art style like what was it they this is probably what they wanted all along oh yeah it makes me really worried was this the erudite i can't breathe mess off or mesh off uh like it's it's what you got was a very get some water i need to get a drink go get a drink do it do it do it what we saw in the original game was a very simplified art style and it makes me wonder exactly like is this what he wanted to do or what he potentially saw this world as but we just oh we can't pull it
Starting point is 01:31:23 off because we have no money and no time or holy shit we made a bunch of money you have time now now it's important to make the distinction that nithog never took yeah sure you can have one nithog never took itself particularly seriously and what he's talking about oh god and and and get your drink man get your fluids it never took itself particularly seriously so i don't think that we needed to get 2d dark souls characters running through churches to kill each other uh at the same time what we got here is the polar opposite of that where it's like full-on homers attacking each other yeah i would say there's such a thing as too much graphics oh i mean the animation's nice yeah but that's that was the problem i i kind of dislike how they went away from
Starting point is 01:32:15 like individual frames and now they're using like the paper doll style of animation that doesn't look as good that'll always look worse yeah always um you combine that with like the wacky aspect turned up to nine so that you kind of have i guess what feels like twitch baby you know what i mean i think was the the term like walley who was revealed at twitch the thing that like i really feel is a bummer about it i think you're kind of on the nose is like there's nothing really wrong with nithog and there's nothing wrong with adding stuff to it but my perception of it and i think a lot of people's perception was always that it was a somewhat like goofy serious fight goofy where these fencers were really serious about their fight yeah but it's kind of silly but the world is goofy
Starting point is 01:33:01 i what i don't like about the new nithog is i feel like the only dial that got turned up was the goofy yeah yeah i don't feel like it got any more serious and admittedly um people who have the impression that it's serious including myself including yourself it's our it's our perception of this fight that's very low fidelity and it's hard to tell if that's what they ever intended exactly i but that's what i felt you're getting you're shy away from you're getting a modern day a rearrange of the soundtrack yeah and the the beeps and boops when turned into chords i thought they were different yeah they weren't a symphony orchestra yeah they were actually clown noises and yeah circus you know that's kind of how i feel go ahead i think the core
Starting point is 01:33:48 actual thing is that the same thing with um uh runner was that hey look at our game that has a really basic art style yeah yeah people really like it it's very similar to let's make a sequel but like in the Atari days if you made a sequel no one cared it was looked almost exactly the same had new levels you then people second guess themselves say we can't do that for a sequel we have to make the graphics look different to make people go oh look it looks newer and it's not just matte packs or whatever it's a full-fledged sequel because it looks like it has a completely different art style look oh my god it's a brand new world and like runner suffered runner is less fun and less easy to keep a track of because of the updating graphics not unplayable by any mean
Starting point is 01:34:36 no it's still good but i do prefer the first i do prefer the first one and same thing with nidhog they looked at and they went like well we can't just make you know the same stick guys people will just be like oh doesn't look any different i'm not gonna buy it oh before i died too i wanted to mention the gameplay well i was about to say right okay like honestly you look at what they added and it's like yeah that's a no-brainer you're not getting out of the park you add more weapons add more movement add a stage interesting things to the stages to interact with and you got yourself a fantastic fucking nidhog game which you already had so all you have to do is just build on top of that base you can't fuck that up so i watched the gameplay and the core gameplay seems borderline
Starting point is 01:35:15 unchanged it it really i i haven't played it but it seems like it plays more or less exactly the same which is great that's just what it that's paramount that's what it should play like and that's great um the one thing it's just now hideous to look at yeah well the one change that i'm not sure about and i really hope they have options or really hope it's not a default thing or whatever is um when you spawn you spawn with the next weapon in the rotation is what it seems like oh um which there were situations granted this was the first time playing so obviously there's going to be unfamiliarity and getting used to that would be fine there were situations where people spawned and they didn't have what would be an ideal weapon for how close
Starting point is 01:35:58 they're spawning to an enemy and stuff when you know there's no problem like the the fencing sword is always perfect at all ranges because it has your projectile and stuff but the other weapons have very different properties uh so i'm i don't want to say i'm concerned about that but it seems odd and i wasn't i i assume they're a fixed rotation but i'm not a hundred percent sure i wasn't like tracking it and and making sure it was not at all how i thought the weapons were coming to play yeah no people are spawning with different weapons after death geez okay yeah um yeah and yeah i don't know about that might not be good everything can be thrown just like the sword but otherwise their movesets are different so the and i'm i'm sure like even what the the style of
Starting point is 01:36:41 the character is like you're probably gonna have skins to like get the classic guys or something maybe or twitch streamers yeah you know like it right the fucking speedrunners pack of like less players and stuff oh gun in mouth i'm sure that like you're gonna have a lot of uh that uh coming out to make it you know what it was or so but i don't i don't know i guess it's just like what was the point if if liam saying it plays really similarly what the fuck was the point just the guy wanted it to be funnier and more goofy and wacky and the way they bleed and stomp each other's heads out and stuff is more like like like a gory humor kind of thing and it just kind of goes over the top and that's all fine i i do think it just it just is like ah it just
Starting point is 01:37:29 it just loses something it is simplicity like again you don't want to it's not like the cool factor was a 10 it's just you kind of the cool factor is only a 10 for some people yeah exactly it was it was a little bit of both yeah and you kind of felt that bothness it's you know like you felt the duality of it and now yeah you said they just they hit the nerd there was enough goofiness that the dick felt appropriate yeah yeah yeah eat the dick get the dick get the dick the like the game visually to me like it hurts my eyes like it looks ugly and what it looks like since i spent years trudging through xbox live indie games there's a certain amount of xbox live indie games specifically xbox live where they had this over detailed textures like that are supposed to
Starting point is 01:38:10 look gross and weird there's like weird like side scrollers that look like that a lot of overhead like twin stick shooters that have like these gross brain textures everywhere and flesh and hair and like oh it's so gross that hyper detail hyper detail that makes it unsettling and like the whole like the one thing i like about nidhogg is just how clean yeah it's basic but like it's meant to be playing focus on the gameplay yeah the back actually find it harder to like look at the backgrounds that i saw seems pretty nice but i i hope that they don't ditch the almost psychedelic trance like ridiculous colors in the in the sky level yeah because that was part of it as well where um there's a that that trippy aspect of the game is just kind of like you're you're where the
Starting point is 01:38:57 fuck is this taking place what is this you know the world is so weird you don't want to kind of lose that either like this is just the initial unveiling so things might change where like right now it's just like seem pretty deep in on this art style though yeah and like you know it seems like it's like meant to be like yeah you stream this wacky thing well i think a part of it is is nidhogg doesn't have tons of appeal visually the the original it's you either like it or you don't you know and it's i don't think it appeals to most people when you just look at a screenshot of nidhogg when i look at it i think that game looks great but i think if you show that to most people they wouldn't say so i think it appeals to older people that you know might have grown up or played
Starting point is 01:39:35 games yeah like that and younger people might not but i i feel like nowadays there's enough retro throwback that most people like yeah most like most of the people this is this is selling to can look at it and get it and appreciate it yeah but i think stuff like hotline miami like it's got more to it it's got the thumping soundtrack and you can see the action in the gore and the level of details a lot higher in fact the level of details close to nidhogg too like the first nidhogg so light almost it looks like a it looks a bit above an atari 7800 game granted at a higher speed than the atari could ever dream at fathom yeah much smoother animation miami has a great balance between like a lot of detail and a lot of gore detail trying to be cool but still be
Starting point is 01:40:20 fairly simplified yeah it's not one way or the other it's like stuck between the two and it actually doesn't go as far as mother russia bleeds yeah it doesn't actually i would say mother russia bleeds is really close to being almost visually ugly to me but that's actually the appeal it actually it is i would say it is ugly but it's like that's the everyone's supposed to be ugly filthy you're playing as hobos like but since we're coming off of a first game it it's just hard to adjust like this yeah it's like i don't know anyway so you know uh i think the dislike bar on the trailer like also kind of is it really bad we're not alone we're not alone yeah there's a lot of people not have a feeling that i just saw a few people in neogaf just going
Starting point is 01:41:07 i don't really like this i didn't think it was that no and then and then you read the comments below and like yeah people are like really is one warrior on neogaf who's somehow a mod was like like yelling at people for not liking it and saying it looks poorer in their opinion and it's like the frames are there a hero work is there yeah the art is of a good quality i bet it's doesn't it's not what i want to know that's not it all for me it isn't yeah but if that's what he saw then we our brains like the build-in details that i you know probably shouldn't have been that i really just want to know is this what nidhog was supposed to be is this what the illustration was the whole time like i don't feel like it was but what do i know
Starting point is 01:41:53 apparently yeah well you know speaking of things that are supposed to be um the no man sky story continues uh we this week we're entering the good arc the tango kuhen uh i don't know no we're still in silence arc no we're entering the arc of the authority of the advertising standards agency oh okay the other story yeah that uh where i was thinking of the jeff kealy story that's that's the other part that's the good story the first part of this is that the no man sky is being investigated for false advertising yeah this this reminds me of when uh people mass complained about ea and the what company was it the the better business bureau or whatever investigated ea and they won the shittiest company of the year award or whatever right right because like not to say
Starting point is 01:42:43 complaints aren't valid but because people complained about them enough on the internet eventually yeah got to that point um there was a no there was a mass complaint uh of course you know that was filed and uh they're being investigated for um things that were advertised inaccurately or are promoted inaccurately such as user interface uh ship flying behavior behavior of animals space combat in general structures buildings yeah i find it weird to lobby these complaints on video games like still to this day no matter what game it is if you're like false it's just shitty it might be disappointing to you but like you know it's a video game you can still play it i think at the very least if you can play it that it wasn't really false
Starting point is 01:43:32 advertising at the same time though that comparison of like the amazing drossick park moment compared to what you did actually get was like this is like this is pre-visualization almost of what you can expect yeah but you know what when you go when you go to a burger king and you look at or see a commercial you see these glistening burgers that was aren't getting but that but that just harkens back to a shitty era of video games like when you'd see the killzone three trailer bullshot when you'd see the bullshot when you'd see the i love that i love that era because it was so flagrant this is like rattling i want big maximize the giant pre-rendered first person cut scene you know like that was a horrible shitty era of video games that i don't want to go back to where where is
Starting point is 01:44:19 all the false advertising claims for metal gear solid too yeah we yeah so it just it harkens back to that i honestly like i think we're also adjusted to companies using bullshots and stuff like that that it's just normal we sometimes we don't but really they shouldn't you should never fucking do it like and i'm not i'm i'm you know whether this is too extreme or not i don't know but yeah no man's sky they are still using screenshots on their steam page that are reflective of like big space battles and stuff that just doesn't have like i played at a good amount and that shit just doesn't happen in the game i don't care our universe how big the universe is that shit doesn't happen in the game that's not happening somewhere wasn't there
Starting point is 01:45:04 it could you imagine if if they managed to prove that all happens anyway um but oh and that plant in that sector and like recently uh digimon story cybersleuth and monster hunter stories vita and 3ds respectively um those companies namco and capcom were showing off the games with these crazy bull shots of ridiculously high resolution down sampled shots where you're like that's like the vita is pretty powerful but it can't do that and on and monster hunter stories you're looking at it and you're like what what magic version is that yeah what is that it's a 3ds game fuck off i think companies should double down online go further it would it would be far more entertaining than these like kind of slight like whatever you know like i want people to fuck it just
Starting point is 01:45:58 give me the biggest lies but like you know it's especially dumb now that we're in an era where no one's gonna get mad seeing the actual product because it it's like video games look pretty good these days you know like i think the accuracy thing it meant a lot more back in the day when we still had like pixels i i would i would contend that there there are drawing tool than like actual like 3d models that are now approaching hyper realism and you know i just think that when you have your game like uh like you said down sampled and like like like it's the most ridiculous version running off of a computer not on the actual hardware that you're you're gonna be playing it on why why invite the anger of everyone and the ire of everyone that sees that and goes what the
Starting point is 01:46:47 i was gonna say i would contend that today is the most uh violent age in regards to we are now in the people people like violent crusading for crusading for downgrades and and adjustments between release and launch you know when you look at like the youtube channel crobe cat who's been getting a lot of a lot of hits lately his channel is mostly composed of demonstrating like snafus and graphical downgrades and not to say it's not merited to show those things off but that's what his whole thing is about you know when you look at these channels gaining traction and stuff it's pretty demonstrable that people want that and that people are like out for blood on that and and whenever you get like a rallying cry around something like watchdogs
Starting point is 01:47:35 or no man's sky then it gets really extreme but like 90 percent of games that do it don't get anything because it's always it's always the rallying cry that does it you know how far back like that yeah batman two and and mortal combat on pc to it to an extent but then again stuff like digimon just goes under the radar and nobody pays attention to it because who cares bullshot can't convey a bad frame rate you know do what you can with what you have yeah but yeah i just yeah for those games it's even more how far back does does bull shots and lying go can you think of an example fucking forever i think from the beginning from the beginning from the beginning where you would rent a game and on the box it would have fucking fabio with an axe yeah cutting some of that
Starting point is 01:48:15 off and two women splooging on his knees i want to i want to google this fucking tetris sure or or street fighter 2010 or you know like of course it goes a bit like the fuck what fey likes about god where's that old man i want to play that game tell me more about this man you know of course feyland always but uh you know no man's sky though it was more than just bull shots it was oh you remember red steel bull shots oh yeah i do now to be that was next generation bull shot i might recall we saw actually saying at the time these are they were target renders these were target renders i believe they said that but i might be wrong but let's go though i want i want red steel screenshots for every game and of course you know there's like watch dogs and stuff like that but yeah let's not
Starting point is 01:49:08 zoom in too much on just that aspect though because remember that no man's sky wasn't just that it was those are amazing i will never forget these bull shots like you remember this one yeah how could you ever forget that one but anyway it was full blown features that were just like multi exaggerated and or not fully defined but left up in now in a but like i still think the silence is the worst thing here because it's not helping so catch me up on multiplayer because i long stopped caring about no man's sky but like was that a feature that was on like the boxes or on the digital page is saying multiplayer is in this game and when you booted it up it wasn't Sean Murray said that there was uh there was some there was online interact interconnectivity and he did and he
Starting point is 01:49:57 said that um the chances of you running into another player are like infinitesimally small but that you could yeah but that it could happen and as anyone had documented yes standing in the exact same place looking at the same sky at the same rocks and then turning around but each other when you're told multiplayer you are to assume yeah yeah be interacting with people it is all the time well he specifically like there's even bits where they refer they ask Sean Murray the whichever interviewer it was sorry his name is Sean Murphy i believe yeah no that's a different person um but uh where they asked him like what does the pilot look like what do you look like and he says well you won't know other people can see that something to that effect but he says that
Starting point is 01:50:42 you know other people can see what the character looks like and stuff and that's not a thing that's not at all a thing and there's no model for the character so what i thought was basically just breasts floating in the air like Jurassic Park trespasser for all we know yeah all right story time kids story time okay so when tell me a story will it when uh rock band and guitar hero were tearing up the the the fighting charts two thousand eight nine back right and uh you know bimani who are the rightful kings decided that their answer to the western rhythm game would be rock revolution rock revolution god they put out this full like full set two mics drum set and guitar uh thing going on it was terrible it was garbage game yeah uh terrible
Starting point is 01:51:32 soundtrack unfunny unfunny you you worked on it briefly right more than okay okay because i know another guy who worked on it for a while too and he also said it was the worst yeah now uh the big thing was this was billed as the full-on competitor and so on and so forth and it was gonna have the the feature list that would rival but from fucking day one like what wasn't expressly advertised but was totally the truth underneath the matter was that the multiplayer in the game wasn't actually head-to-head multiplayer it was you and me as friends on each other's friends lists could share our leaderboards and compete for scores and i could challenge you and put my score up and then you would receive my asynchronous effectively completely there's no online play
Starting point is 01:52:23 it was just like leaderboards trying to beat each other's scores and having a more direct challenge version of that uh snowman sky reminds me of that a little bit where it's like what you have is the naming of planets as your only and leaderboards as your only real multiplayer but in them in in selling the game's majesty shon marie made it sound as if you were going to be able to explicitly to like and you absolutely could not and it was not proven yeah and i mean i remember when it came out like me and pat were pretty on the same page about like yeah this stuff's bad let's at least give him a chance to say something it's been months you know man people are thinking people thinking maybe we can dogfight it with each other in space or something like that
Starting point is 01:53:08 isn't it because of this investigation that the people if you're isn't it's why they can't talk about stuff and not say anything yeah so that's the other part of this is because they're legally now possibly on the hook uh the the silence man i hate being on the hook of all the places i like being i hate on the hook of their uh their attorneys telling them not to say anything right now the the the curious thing yeah is that that silence started like the day after the game came out uh plague sent me a picture of no man's sky's twitter activity and then the release day it goes to zero yeah uh wait no no there was there was the uh the shon posted on release day where he was like he was so happy so impressed that people managed to find console release and then nothing yeah um so
Starting point is 01:53:57 part two of the story is jeff kealy has a new show live with youtube gaming it was good by the way okay jeff kealy continues to be the gaming journalism hero that games journalism deserves and he talked a little bit about no man's sky yeah um there was a little aside during the show where he got up on the corner of the stage and faced the camera hey kids not sitting on his couch anymore it's me and he spoke he spoke a little bit about his relationship with shon murray and uh hello games and about how you know he kind of helped launch uh the first trailer for no man's sky was during vgx yeah exactly so he kind of helped and he did and how after a while apparently shon murray didn't want jeff kealy to be around him anymore because he was being too negative about
Starting point is 01:54:49 the game behind closed doors um and how about uh eventually uh jeff and shon weren't as close um however apparently uh shon murray has agreed to the idea of being on the show in october and talking about it to break the silence so i really really do hope that that manages to pan out because jeff is probably the best journalist in gaming right now i know i know everyone's hot on you know doritos pope memes and stuff but like jeff is a legit really good journalist who gives a shit about video games and if anyone can do this story justice he's one of the people who can well the the curious thing to me is to see if like this was actually just like an accidental malinuing you know or if we're seeing like yeah he compares them to peter
Starting point is 01:55:43 malinue during that time yeah because explicitly it's so similar yeah it's the same the same city gilford the same city jeez maybe he was maybe he was being tutored by malinue you know it just it just has that feeling to it and uh you know i mean i'd love to hear from the horse's mouth so to speak you know what the deal is so definitely uh yeah well that it's not confirmed yet of course but it could happen yeah no there's no confirmation on that just that sean is open to it so i really hope he will be able to if they are not allowed to talk about stuff that won't pan out until they're allowed to if that's what the case is that they're just not allowed to talk about the game until this investigation if that's what the issue is i don't know yeah i know it's
Starting point is 01:56:30 i mean no matter how you slice it it's not a you know what they're gonna announce no man's sky back from hell yeah or like no man's sky hydrophobia patch i think that's actually one of the things that jeff kealy talks about during this like five minute like interstitial bit on no man's sky where he talks about how like if i'm remembering correctly he thinks it should have released on early access and like yeah gotten people in and because if this game had launched as it did in early access i don't think we would have a problem with what is currently going on what happened that seemed like in in hindsight you know yeah hindsight 2020 yeah you know that probably would have been a safer bet to get actual feedback on from a lot large volume of
Starting point is 01:57:13 people yeah no man's sky the sky is mine i was gonna say no man's sky championship edition um so what what we can what is announced that we can talk about is uh jojo live action yeah this was announced a bit before though right so this is weird because i was sure i brought this up on the podcast yeah exactly so everyone was confused about everyone because i was like what jojo part three movie and you guys were like yeah we talked about the podcast was like no he didn't or it must have been on one i wasn't something yeah we looked at actors faces there was something i remember that yeah that came up months ago that said stardust crusaders is becoming a movie and here are the actors faces and so now that this moves about part four becoming a movie is
Starting point is 01:58:04 going around being directed by takashi mike no yeah so everyone's like you know push it like going like hey check this stuff out and i'm like yeah but is this happening after the yeah what's the deal research it i'm still not a hundred percent certain but i mean we maybe they were like let's scrap it because part four is gearing up and let's just try to but stardust crusaders is it's the one i know i know that it makes sense to start you're right that four is the hot button right now though quite frankly though i think it makes the most sense to start with phantom blood because it's yeah this thing to make into a it'll be hardest to go back on it exactly it doesn't have stands no but it doesn't like it's just a vampire movie and you could do it really simply
Starting point is 01:58:49 and learn from any mistakes so that by the time you get to stardust you're actually nailing it and but japanese cinema are the they're the kings of making mistakes yeah i know and it sucks so when we don't even to catch mike who's amazing all all japanese cinematography first try right into the first try right into the the big cool stuff and it that might be fucked they might fuck it up yeah they're gonna fuck it it's gonna be fucked up i dude every time like i wish i was always so consistently diamond is all by japanese movies i don't i don't know man like the the the fact that um how many how many live action adaptations of jojo have just porn anime anime of anime there's kenshin have been like good or resoundingly good resoundingly good and
Starting point is 01:59:41 not not just okay i heard those kenshin movies were the kenshin was good i saw one of the kenshin movies and it was all right i saw i didn't see the first one though i here's what i can say kenshin was good i can say uh you guys love to tackle in time 20th century 20th century boys was good 20th century boys is good um that's a good pick death note death note is good is it i never saw that okay it's different i've never seen that death but it's fine what about el saves the world what about el saves the world death note is different but it's fine okay that's all i got ah everything else in my brain goes to i whether you're talking about oh dragon ball evolution whether you're talking about really good really good okay devil man whether you're talking about
Starting point is 02:00:24 fucking uh um tetsujin whether you're talking about uh uh um fucking uh gacha man whether you're like there's so many against live action there was a gants live action movie i don't know how that is there's there's like so much i haven't watched any of these men there's so much and you say you like anime i don't and it's usually terrible because it fits into that like japanese b-movie category where it's just like these are bad yeah acting is usually terrible yeah and the script is not once over for plot holes but that's deemed acceptable for the for the script there is there's blood there was there was one other one that i saw terrible oh kassern kassern okay kassern oh god uh that thing was cool kassern is the most sickest badass terrible movie ever yeah yeah
Starting point is 02:01:22 because the parts that are terrible are like 80 percent of it but the 20 percent of the action is fucking amazing uh space battleship yamato i did not like that movie so look dude like there's a lot and i've we've seen a lot i probably can't go over all of them but it's just like they're usually bad right i think that's fair to say so i'm worried i'm fucking worried there's no ninja scroll anime i'm worried and on the other hand it's like one of those things where uh live action thank you anime movies never harm the brand in any significant way in the end so so i don't yeah no you're right so it's like you're right i am worried because i wanted to be good but if it becomes nothing then it's just nothing exactly so here we go i know i'm not crazy and thank you for not being crazy
Starting point is 02:02:11 either liam kanto yamazaki rumored to lead a live action jojo was our adventure stardust crusader so shun matsumoto was rumored to be playing the lead in 2012 the production on this movie was something that's been actually talked about yeah for the last couple years now so it's not happening dude what that that day when the news stories broke about the fourth about um uh diamond is unbreakable i felt like fucking caveman spongebob where i'm standing there and i'm like what happened like where's the third movie exactly exactly so it's not happening no well now we have an announcement about diamond is unbreakable happening and it doesn't mention stardust crusaders so who knows did everyone just forget was that a hallucination i think it's like if this is if this must be the
Starting point is 02:02:55 work of an enemy stand there's a stand that makes your movie get canceled i think possibly that this was the rumors were based on this perhaps and it was just folded this stardust crusaders turned into diamond is unbreakable and it was just unfathomable that you would start jojo out on this part and not kind of nuts not any other part to be honest i'm sure you can please together what's going on if this is your first i was gonna say like that's an easy hum honestly like you can start on any part but why would you your first yeah start on any part i like the audience's first exposure to joseph joe's characters have to get younger as the movies go on yeah that's fine he's a cheating piece of shit that's the first joseph you're gonna need you don't get seized
Starting point is 02:03:46 if you want more backstory just read the manga read the manga yeah like i'm excited for the brazzers version of part four that'll be good those guys are champs i dude yeah like imagine imagine they would make a porn parody of like let's say this jojo movie somehow breaks out in japan it's like this huge international success yeah they would do it they would do it it would be so fucking good they should do more niche properties oh they really should we also watched we all watched i have no mouth and i must suck dick we watched the live the live action finished right didn't we you must yes oh yeah yeah yeah and that was right to catch not not an anime but all right it fits the fits the mold now yeah i think it fits the mold either way uh but that was right so here's the
Starting point is 02:04:30 here's the thing right to catch me k that's a good name to attach to it yes it's not a good thing to attach to it summer 2017 why because that's fucking right around the corner and it's not enough time to make a good jojo no no no yes it is for japan japan is a movie they're the king of rush job because a remember you're so bad no remember this cg's gonna be shit because you're in japan and it only takes about three months for them to make it it's gonna be fucking oh god dude japanese asian cinema cg is just very fast oh uh parasite live action movie sure sucked by the way did it so the trailer was all you saw that at fantasia yeah no i didn't see the fantasia okay the trailer looks good i got a sharing link for it from a friend and i shared it off that link on the internet
Starting point is 02:05:18 that's a shape but it's not pirated shared that's the same it's dude it sucks i mean look yeah so so that's the puppy in the garbage nothing about this makes sense to me and the only thing that would have made sense would have been to start at the beginning and make an easy movie and learn your pacing so that like quote-unquote easy movie yeah relatively speaking yeah make just make a traditional fucking vampire story you know as a film but like you learn the ropes and you warm up to it so that you don't go straight into deathly hollows on movie one yeah you know you get through your other shit but no that's that's that's a little disingenuous because all the harry potter books like they blasted like the first one was like the big one yeah right whereas like you're
Starting point is 02:06:03 saying jojo it's like kind of yeah and then starters crusaders happen then that was the big but what i mean though is with lord of the rings and with um um fucking what's it called with harry potter as well and with a lot of these like movie series that go on yeah you get better as you go i think harry potter like i think they fucking started shitting the bed at the third one though i think the first two are the best and then the quality goes down that's crazy that's the exact opposite i've heard of anyone i think the first two are considered from what i whatever are the weakest and when when um uh the director of gravity made the third one that's considered like oh now it got really good there's bits where they deviate from the like i grew up
Starting point is 02:06:51 reading the books when i was a kid and so it's like really close to me and there's bits where they break from the canon that i really don't like sure that's all that's all it's a personal complaint i only followed the films and i only did them i think i think actually the fourth one is the week i think gobbled fire yeah the fourth one's really cool but it's kind of his hair is the dumbest in that one is a ask a band three yes yeah that's where i stopped yeah okay oh wow did you read the books or no they're good the books are good yeah i hear they're i heard about this harry potter word on the street hot from the presses beep beep beep they fucking tricked me with that new book it's a trick oh yeah that's it's a trick see i went to more lies i yeah it's on the
Starting point is 02:07:32 like it says on the cover that it's a script like it's a screenplay and i knew it was a screenplay going in but it's a fucking trick how great because it's a screenplay that that jk like helped like overlook oversee and pan and stuff and it's like a sequel selling a full but it's not a selling you the script it doesn't read like a book it's like it's a script in a book but fuck you you bought it i it's fine it's yeah it's solid i guess but it's weird it's gonna be someone's birthday present it's no it is still a good experience it's just not a book it's just not written the same it's like if you bought a game it's it and then you got into it it's like if you got mgs2 and instead of mgs2 you got the document of mgs2 yeah okay you're getting the
Starting point is 02:08:17 document of harry potter eight that's a great way to so so you open it up and it's like interior yeah hogwarts sort of yeah okay all right it's a trick and it's the i haven't seen a book in a long time that went to the fucking bomba bin is fast where it's like i'm seeing i'm seeing piles of them at indigo that have 50 off signs yeah and that you don't i don't see that with books the last book that had that was uh jk rolling's previous book um oh that adult that stupid that was not under jk rolling's name no no it was it was this i can't remember what it was called but the other this is the other the famous one that came out recently that i was so hoping would be actually harry potter four years not fantastic beast because there was to
Starting point is 02:08:59 there was the follow-up book and then there was the book where she took a new adult one right i'm checking right now the casual vacancy yeah yeah yeah oh god this got my favorite line he then looked upon the grass and saw a used condom glowing in the moon like like a gossamer worm fuck you i was so hoping that it would turn out to secretly be a harry potter world book in exterior night harry potter small smiles down not not like just in the can smiles down upon neville's broken bloody body yeah i have it awesome uh so here's uh we got we got a couple of new announcements from amazon studios uh yeah the big one the big one the big one the big one everything's relative is breakaway yeah now uh breakaway seems to be a uh sports building
Starting point is 02:10:05 all hero competition multiplayer online free to play made for which which they own you sport you do battle sports in an arena yeah online with multiple players yeah but with heroes that can fight okay yes totally new idea i look at the character designs and i'm like those are not bad i don't mind yeah the art quality everything about the production is like i don't mind really fantastic i love reinhardt it was great to see reinhardt in this game did you guys see reinhardt i don't mind the character i need to look up the list i keep confusing the three games i hate pretty much all of them i the most forgettable nothing so i like when a game is third person because you could see you do character i do like that as well it zooms out a bit too far for my liking but i
Starting point is 02:11:00 still appreciate that part of it um the actual carrying the ball style gameplay doesn't look particularly exciting to be fair during this presentation they they literally said instead of making a thing we just took the best bits of other popular things to make this thing that we hope will be popular now if you say that to me then fine like it's not too unusual because most you know that's most games but if this was just fighting though it would be crucified even harder but it's the the fact that they're going for the ball as the main focus of yeah is the is what's trying to be original about it and it just didn't look as exciting uh watching the the the pace of gameplay whereas i felt higher watch the actual which is yes i did which with all the fgc people
Starting point is 02:11:49 in it yeah uh yeah yeah yeah we got alex probably out of his coffin they got all the warriors like the game is really high quality it just doesn't inspire me in any way like the interesting thing is that like i i look at it and i was like maybe i feel like it's the ball that's maybe slowing it down or making you not enjoy it but then i'm like no because pyre looks incredible i would rather just the ball i'd rather just like here's the thing it's called breakaway that's a sports term to me the logo has a ball and then you're playing a fucking sport but you have spartacus and jesse james and morgana lefayne and other overwatch ripoffs design wise they're supposed to be on mythological heroes all right all right i need to i need to i need to get on this yes please
Starting point is 02:12:36 because um don't forget the buildables like there is going to be a lot of things that are very clearly overwatch ripoffs but there are also going to be things that are just doing generic modern fantasy style yeah and blizzards overwatch designs are really good not just because they're cool but also because they capture the things we're already familiar with you know what i mean yeah like ryan hearts ryan heart but a big night guy is a big night guy and always was and always will hanzo or genji hanzo and genji are all the cool things we traditionally think about japanese culture and their fantasies and stuff that that being said embodied into two really good character designs that are really really predictable in fact embodied into one
Starting point is 02:13:24 two strong character sign that had to be nerfed into two exactly so it had a character designed too powerful you have designed a night that didn't look exactly like ryan heart did it have to be i was gonna say in all fairness just like uh uh what's it called paladins of the realm this was being made before overwatch was uh like really out there and really big and stuff and there's a certain point where you have to just be like well do we change our design and default on what we had the game design sure but character design is one of the last things that could actually be changed yes and no i mean but it's also like skin it's also like we came up with this design why do we have to change it you know yes it looks the same similar yes people are gonna compare them really
Starting point is 02:14:17 aggressively but it's it's shitty for them because they came up with that design too yeah and i mean there's something granted both of them are generic night designs and like and like this game has one of those like you know there's a modern day kind of moba sorceress design that you see a lot of time overwatch doesn't have that there's no sorceress type character but like it could have just as easily had one of those right so i just kind of feel like you know well that's why i think the tournament of legends thing overwatch like generally still falls into the pitfalls of like female moba designs where it's like hey they're all attractive well there's that well not may wow channeling your inner pat are you sorry okay well but i was gonna say outside of like
Starting point is 02:15:06 zarya may and um anna anna i think i have forgotten her name because i stopped playing overwatch anna's super hot no i was gonna say they're all really attractive but outside of them they all conform to like the real standard like 20 something attractive woman which is like hey have you seen league of legends roster it's been that forever have you seen dota it's like you're not allowed to make like have you seen anything outside of that a lot of korean gamers want to play yeah no exactly exactly right and if you look back perfect if you look back onto all the older things that were popular in those regions like lineage and stuff it's like gotta make gotta get into those pitfalls gotta dig ourselves in like for overwatch though it's like there's two characters i actually dislike
Starting point is 02:15:48 and for different reasons like one is like may because she's just annoying to fight that's great stopped i'm not allowed to play because no you're right you're right and then winston starts on character designs no no and winston i don't like his character design and i don't think he's particularly fun to play as or fight as and that's it yeah and they're great all the that's for me that's for me but every other character i really like so when i see a game like this where yeah there is no sorceress but there's a fucking mccree yeah there's a reinhardt yeah there's there's i mean well she's a pirate girl but she's basically still the the sniper that hangs back and she's a female warrior i mean but those are the tropes of like we said yeah yeah no and the
Starting point is 02:16:31 thing is is that honestly like if you go grab a game like i don't know black desert and just take a look at the the starting roster of character archetypes on that you see a lot of the same things that we're seeing in overwatch in paladins and and all these like MOBA designs as you call you know as we labeled them it's like there's just there's a safe template and overwatch i guess like it has really good designs really good versions in the safe template inside the template exactly the best versions of what you get within this nice tupperware container yeah of what is okay to do and definitely um this game just follows that template so i don't fault it you know for looking so much like overwatch as much as i do for just being within
Starting point is 02:17:13 the same template yeah you know um that being said that's breakaway you know um god bless yeah it's amazon games so that's double helix staff is it confirmed sorry the double helix is absolutely okay filthy rich is working on this and all the killer is a guy that's why they had killer instinct players like gutter magic right okay yeah that totally makes sense was the guy that actually kind of bones me out a little i didn't realize that yeah i don't know if that was worth it uh k i was so strong getting bought by like double helix not going down that then making a really good oddly enough strider game getting bought by amazon to make a thing that could probably fail super hard i mean right now they're safe right they're not gonna shut they're
Starting point is 02:17:59 not gonna shut down anytime i think i bought two years ago right something like that yeah exactly this has been in the works for a while yeah definitely uh also in the works well in between them getting bought and this by the way remember amazon released their fire tv with their controller and it was meant to be like a little console thing but the game and they released like 10 games and none of them were really stuck out but they weren't at all games they were like yeah they were amazon game studios has these are like their 10th 11th and 12th games yeah the other games they have is that way forward one they had that way forward game for their mobiles they had a game yeah lost with them they had a puzzle game yeah so there's uh they had seven zero
Starting point is 02:18:37 i mean double helix yeah exactly but i just mean like that's how long it's been amazon released like a phone and a console and had big game initiatives on those and those failed so now they've totally defaulted and they're just pc pc you know which is fine yeah speaking of cursifying things the one of the games is called crucible yes and uh i think this one looks the art looks pretty interesting to me it's kind of neat it still like seems like multiplayer survival game right yeah uh you know we don't really know a ton except for the fact that it's multiplayer streaming focused 12 players attempt to survive there's a game master and uh yeah that kind of controls i do like that it's the last person alive wins that's kind of neat doesn't happen that
Starting point is 02:19:20 but you have to it's co-op as well as competitive yeah yeah because you can turn on your you you can make alliances then just turn on someone but you need other people because you have to eventually yeah there's a can only like it's like you know um it's trapped on an island battle royale type stuff so that's kind of neat what Tomb Raider should have been big shoutouts to all the artists who designed the logos for these games by the way yeah because they are so good look at these logos the next game breakaway is great new world's great crucible's probably the best one these logos are fucking nuts strong strong strong the one for new world is is pretty damn sick and that's going to be an mmo sandbox game it's weird it's like it's they're saying there's
Starting point is 02:20:02 a supernatural horror element to it but it's also that has like you know uh town building and there's creatures in the forest spooky 17th century colonial america yeah that's a that's a that's a mouthful that's what that is uh lots of lots of lots of prime real estate there for the picking like you know i know the monies and multiplayer games these days but like all three of those kind of bums me out because i i would love for one of these games to have been a single player affair yeah one one i get it it's twitch people want to be able to react and you gotta go big on your platform and there's a lot of money to be made here and i i do respect that but i you know it's not it's not for me i don't know what big single player twitch thing would
Starting point is 02:20:47 have been cool yeah twitch like you know made for game or whatever what do you think of the um amazon prime rolling into twitch and stuff like that i think that's pretty cool that's awesome yeah amazon if you have uh prime which i do um you automatically get i think it's called twitch prime so you get no ad no it's called prime now okay and you get no ads uh and you get a free subscription and yeah yeah you're just subscribed to it just like i'm sub to amazon video and stuff like that they rolled that in yeah and um you get like a free game every month yeah by amazon and you get uh and they just rolled in the discounts too on preorders where you get 20 off all game preorders on amazon so physical games are now cheaper than digital games in canada there are a couple a couple other uh
Starting point is 02:21:36 streaming services that got rolled in with that prime subscription like silo and like a the comedy streaming services stuff i didn't know about those like yeah there's some some other like businesses that basically got bought out and it's like yeah if you're a prime member you get the value there yeah sketch it price is the same i think so yeah amazon prime is not cheap it's like 80 bucks a year but the services i think are really good so yeah i always i'm always like on the edge of clicking on it but then in the end i kind of think about how often i order from it and it's not enough to make it worth for me it's like i still buy physical so like i want that day one shipping every time but especially now that the 20 discount is in like i went and cancelled and
Starting point is 02:22:19 reordered everything to get the 20 discount rolled in and it's like that paid for itself right there like over a bit so but if you're not if you're not buying physical then it might not be worth it not unless it's a special collector's edition yeah um we have the okay like this is so weird but also not weird and predictable at the same time there's a portal movie in the works and it's then jj brooms is involved and it's like of course he is it sounds like such a like when you put them together you're like yeah yeah that's the right combination that can use lens flare of course he is um why not man you know quite frankly after trying out that vive portal demo yeah um you could do it you can do a portal story that is not just about the solving of the puzzles and the
Starting point is 02:23:14 you know what i mean like you could do something there and even even portal two like there's enough to the world that you can what do you do with chel though you don't okay or you do but you shouldn't i don't think you should try just leave it i think there's more chance that you like harm chel or change her too much because like the cool thing about chel is she doesn't really have a personality um and giving her a personality suddenly it's like oh maybe that's not what i thought chel was yeah when when it's a blank slate you're gonna you know you might get the upset people so do we just go with wheatley and just ignore humans all together no no i have a new person okay because it's it's actually a lot like nidhog right we're like that's what i think
Starting point is 02:23:55 those characters are but then all of a sudden it's homer simpson screaming yeah i don't want i don't want to risk chel being a screaming homer simpson yeah um so no uh jay brims is uh he's attached and this is apparently um being uh who announced it what studio is it where was it i missed it here's a statement uh we have uh we're having some really interesting discussions with the writer's menu of whom once you said you're doing a movie about a specific thing that is a known quality you start to find people that are rabid about these things is someone okay he's just saying i love portal i love half-life and i'm happy to work on it it's a nothing statement yeah so like a lot of this ever come out yeah this might not ever come out it'll be a double feature with spawn god that'd be sick
Starting point is 02:24:44 yeah finally spawn portal double feature that's like peanut butter and chocolate getting pushed together grindhouse to spawn and portal that's like kathryn and persona five getting pushed together impossible that'll never happen woolly what's our next story oh my god have you seen these costumes though i have they're so pretty i don't know why you'd take any other costumes have you taken a look at like all the costume dlc yeah well i saw these ones and i saw the bathing suits okay there's a lot there's there's a set for every persona game and some other smt games like if if you don't like our game just make it another game yeah they're goddamn expensive though welcome to japanese dlc here we go but they're nice they're really nice costumes the the
Starting point is 02:25:29 kathryn ones are free i think though oh cool just let me load up my save file and then yeah yeah you should get that just be like yo you play kathryn here you go yeah you know fuck off kathryn was good did you ever look at the deal it sucked my dick it was great kathryn had good games did you ever look at the fucking dlc prices and dancing all night though i did yeah and i spent some money on it well that's what you're getting in uh in five but you have to buy them in sets is the difference because songs felt a bit more songs was fine like they were expensive they were like what four bucks a pop or something but i could i could i could stomach stomach stomach song purchase especially since i'd paid a dollar or two for certain rock rock band songs yeah you're gonna
Starting point is 02:26:14 play him a bunch but the costumes were really expensive i bought them all jeez i bought all i didn't buy those fucking glasses though and in person p4 like an arena yeah i don't even like them that much no i i think i don't think they're as good looking does ukiko have like an alternate without the like i feel like she should wear the glasses all the time no she just gets different glasses different glasses like the nose the goofy i don't know actually she starts laughing because she's such an endearing quality that she has right everyone loves her laugh it's the best that's like that's i know ukiko's laugh is great you're wrong man i don't care what you say woolly woolly's making all these motions offscreen but he's wrong he's fucking jacking off to fucking brown
Starting point is 02:26:57 chia because he loves cheating on chia you should because woolly can just switch waifu every week if you bring a copy of trauma team into my house you should know what's going down you sit down here the disc she's not even on the main art i don't think no you'd be you'd be doing that to the idea of her it wouldn't matter if the disc is in the room tell me about hello neighbor uh have you seen this yeah i did uh hello neighbor is a game that i saw like almost a year ago and i don't even think it had a name really cool um and now it's getting like put out soon by tiny build um and it's kind of like the scariest Pixar movie ever tiny build aren't they the guys that made yes punch club and well they published it published it
Starting point is 02:27:46 they do a lot of indie publishing but uh speed runners they also did party hard uh last train party hard there's no time to explain yeah that that that is actually made by them i think that's because i because the character on their logo yeah is the guys from the head and i'm like i'm pretty sure that one's actually that's the guy that's the guy from there's no time to explain they they sponsor the uh gdq events all the times and they're at they're at a bunch of conventions now that they're getting a bit bigger this is like a stealth game with like kind of these underpinnings of a horror element where you're fighting this weirdo guy that's your neighbor inside a house and you're supposed to gun in there investigate what he's doing you break into his
Starting point is 02:28:22 house you have to figure out ways to get him out because if he gets you then it's like game over you're gonna start again and you're fighting against an adaptive AI and there's all these different traps and blockades and things you can do and you're just supposed to outwit him don't breathe the movie kind of yeah and the game's kind of like not it's kind of tense most of the time yeah but then when the neighbor fucking catches you or when he's alert it's scary yeah when he catches you you wind up tied up in his basement and then wow it goes from there wow uh so it's really really interesting that mr roger stuff dump you in the fucking hypogean jail i think it's supposed to be kind of like british maybe i don't know but it looks neat i wouldn't normally be
Starting point is 02:29:04 interested but i watched the trailer and i was like damn yeah yeah exactly but he goes about his day and starts doing things and if you kind of alert him that someone's in his house and he'll start searching for you and like it seems like building barricades and shit like instantly but like the art style in case we haven't seen this yet it's like kind of like a Pixar looking movie a little bit yeah there's only the one character so far yeah you can't see what but it kind of has that Pixar-y look a little bit a neighbor can do anything when you don't believe in god it's it really is a bit like don't breathe actually like in terms of execution and stuff yeah yeah but like i'm really impressed at how much they stuck it and it really feels like they've got it
Starting point is 02:29:44 at least the trailer gave me that impression because i saw a video of this like over a year ago and i was like that looks cool and i thought this looked even better this new trailer so yeah i've only seen this one hello neighbor yeah i it would like it's interesting because i could see like something like um uh until dawn two being like a setting like that in a way i also thought that's what that one scenario from heavy rain where you're trying to outwit a killer inside his house oh that's the that's the the taxidermist yeah i also thought like yeah that'd be cool idea for an entire game or like a concept game because obviously this is a thing that you play in short bursts and yeah you play and replay and it's not like a big long single player thing or whatever the house is uh
Starting point is 02:30:28 randomly generated each time right i got i got that impression but not sure and maybe things change you get different items whatever maybe there's a couple houses i don't know yeah okay and last but not least uh michelle ancel decides to take his feather to my dick once again ticklet and yeah dude it's fucking happening i don't know what do you want me to do you mother fuckers didn't believe what is fucking happening i didn't believe i was the guy yelling at where there was footage of the damn every e3 i'm like young good neville too young no not the cg thing with page the leech footage the leech footage the actual gameplay footage leech yeah well some of it looks prerendered but it's new it's newer there was a there was like three years old now that's not like that that
Starting point is 02:31:16 little short that was the actual footage that leaked it looked like a target render of gameplay but that means a game was being played yeah and this is exist this is fucking baby page and her fucking dad what what is the what is the feather beyond good and evil too but what is it he he instagrammed a picture okay and uh described an event occurring in i believe sector four or whatever which is where beyond good evil takes place that that one yeah and it's a small uh piglet person baby pig on top of an older perhaps asian man's shoulder hard to say he's wearing shades and he seems like he's doing some work or something right for a number right possibly he's uh he's holding on kind of looks like big boss possibly jade's pop pop maybe maybe page is uh the pop pop
Starting point is 02:32:07 that piglet that jade in the same way that jade's dad was baby looks pretty cute and that personally i've i've subscribed to the um theory that nintendo has been saving this to the point where i thought it was going to be a we you game but now that the time has passed i guess it's going to be in an x game that being said um but for a while i've felt like that was the case so i hope that's still the case a big part of why i want this game is because i do want to see jade again so well i hope that picture is an indication you probably won't yeah i mean this could just maybe concept art but maybe maybe not because for years the tickle the feather has been jade and they had the little cutscenes here and the little leak thing there
Starting point is 02:32:48 and the little concept art tease there for me for me it's been the ending you've you finished the game right you never finished the game i did it there's a there's a cliffhanger there's a cliffhanger sure love jade there's a decade long cliffhanger that has nothing to do with jade okay and it's that's the thing oh okay but i can't blame you for being excited even if you haven't finished it no i i i i fucking loved every moment of it up until the where i said fuck it what was the reason then time man oh okay what do you want me to tell you uh let's uh check check some emails if you want to throw me under the bus i wonder why you're so salty that's all it's a super
Starting point is 02:33:36 best friendcast at gmail.com because there's sometimes there's stuff that i like that i do at gmail.com well they've never released an hd version so i guess you only have you can only play on a game it's actually crazy how niche beyond good and evil has stayed because uh well even if you look at the steam spy sales they're not that good like people aren't really buying the game on steam people probably didn't really buy the game all that much on 360 and ps3 and it was never really a seller to begin with on on its original release like it feels like a game that has much more presence and a bigger fan base than most but when you actually look at the the actual the numbers that are known it's low like the
Starting point is 02:34:22 on good and evil has somehow managed to stay relatively niche but i would argue more niche than bayonetta by the way i know that revolts of gamers hover revolt of gamers yeah is out in early access i'm waiting until the full game is done yeah you you should do anything with it or talk about it or do anything you should do that because it's not that great so um really yeah it's really just still just the ps a that i i know but i did play it like maybe three four months ago okay might have changed but it's been in early access for like i almost a year i think wow that long maybe i hadn't even heard it was in early access actually that's cool for those of you who want early access uh justin case says hello good name unacceptably average people who know each other
Starting point is 02:35:12 unacceptably average can't think of a way to slide into this um well lube is always you like fighting games you live in montreal if you had to make a fighting game where every stage was based in your city where would you that's a good question so the obvious big oh is the is the in or on top on top as it's falling apart yeah so as it's daily right the big oh being the olympic stadium that we have built it's the most uh it's the most iconic thing in our city and it shows up in whenever like it has a very nice design it has a design that people would recognize yeah that's what's up it's it as an hey i recognize that ugly useless piece it's our cn tower what do you want yeah you know it does have a cool look to it despite it's expensive i would set one there
Starting point is 02:36:03 sure yeah uh i would set one in the lumina forest where i just came from it's not really much but you're not wrong but it can't just be like a spot that people know it's gotta be in front of schwarz's set one in no so i was about to say if you do that it just kind of is like it doesn't mean anything enough to be like put one in the shadow lands of loval put one counts put one at plaza days are during the jazz festival well i was gonna say jazz festival and palades conga is really nice yes right on that corner yeah right that area is really gorgeous so you could put in the old port in several places in and around the old port there's some like iconic on the docks yeah i'm the dog okay i say i say
Starting point is 02:36:52 not the old port but china town yeah where you can see the old port from there specifically the big government building with like like near the palades conga near the palade to conga on top of the mountain yeah mount royal right right right by the right by the cross yeah right on the cross yeah or near or near you can see st. joseph's oratory yep st. joseph's oratory is nice too actually yeah yeah church stage would be good because we've got a billion churches um you could put it in one of the streets that are blocked off the church that has the heart is it in it is that st. joseph's oratory the giant white building i don't know which one has the heart but there's one that has a saint's heart in a jar okay i don't that one's pretty badass okay i've seen pictures
Starting point is 02:37:40 of it but i never got a place you could put it and pretty much anywhere is where traffic is blocked off and construction is there you go that's because that's every street that's what you're under construction stage under construction stage and inside a bell province yes where putzine is being made and it's on the floor it should be you to trip it should be like a uh uh like a more unique casket that's like more that takes advantage more of stereotypes fine la fleur well just cuz like belpro and la fleur like you're right that's the one if you if you know but it kind of looks a little boring so you gotta have more stereotypes more aggressive stereotyping punch out version like a fantasy version of it but yeah yeah yeah more asbestos yeah yeah yeah totally
Starting point is 02:38:26 okay but but you're right that's a good stage otherwise uh we got one coming in from the metro uh pat yeah metro stage might be neat dare to make a paranoid best friends what's your favorite conspiracy or one that you believe in personally flat earth time cubes flat earth is i think it's my favorite that's it it's i just i don't but what's one you have to subscribe to not as a joke yeah no no flat earth is my favorite what is one i actually subscribed to you first um i didn't think of it before and it might be bullshit i'm like ellen more where i think the snake god i sure i'll give that a whirl but if it turns out to be bullshit i'm on plus you've had a snake for like a decade now yeah uh that moon land moon landing is staged
Starting point is 02:39:23 seven eleven was an inside job seven eleven a lot of people died that day uh seven eleven great combini disaster but wait are you actually saying that what what's your actual answer uh i'm still thinking i don't know okay so you don't have one all right but she says she says ps i think one of you is a lizard person um that's yes and he's not here right now uh yeah i feel that you must have a cut one at least a ridiculous no because i subscribe i subscribe to occum's razor so often that it's like stupidity and people and incompetence explains more than mastermind masterminding is so unusual and it's so impossible for tons of people to lie and convincingly pull it off like people are so inept and so incompetent at basic day-to-day
Starting point is 02:40:18 things that i'm getting a real zenithos gambit going is not you can't pull one over on people like it's it's not that you can't it's just it's so hard it's hard to leave no trace it's fucking hard government can't woolly so i barely believe in them because i believe people are just fucking incompetent you know you could yeah like like if sorry i'm not responding so i'm still thinking no like nixon could barely get away with a couple of fucking water taps in his water taps water taps wire taps in a while in the way you know stealing all my water wire taps in a single hotel right like i feel like it's just it's not that you they can't do things yeah it's just more like hiding it and like fucking yeah and like people get away with shit all the time
Starting point is 02:41:03 and but you just never hear about it yeah so there's there's the middle ground to people who do succeed but it doesn't see theory no exactly it was never supposed to be heard and seen and but they could be conspiracy so like i yeah i like i you know like i i know alex jones first lag report but and then the and the fucking there's all that shit going on and there's the the the jesse the body vinter on his mind i have i have that's my favorite i have the weather system that's my holds the weather up there in alaska i would know i was a governor a navy seal a fighter i have a really hard time thinking of any of those that i subscribe to but i love flat earth i just yeah i like there is i admire its purity as well yeah
Starting point is 02:41:55 there's just something about believing in something that's like like a fucking millennium old thought that has been disproven there's just something about believing in that og theory because because if someone comes like it's got history and says you know what the earth is pretty flat and i put my hands on either other shoulders and go you are amazing i love you i love you kiss them on i hope you're right because that would be awesome yeah and for fake moon landing stuff is like again i'm like eh i the the biggest one to me is after i watched like a documentary you know you watch documentaries it doesn't really mean anything but like it's just like someone just going no other country has gone to the moon because you can't you burn up and they're
Starting point is 02:42:48 talking to former nasa astronauts and they're like you'll die why do we only send robots because they can't die here i got i got my i guess my answer the boss almost died she did not not do the radiation gun port gun pay was held back they had to hold them back they had to take him out he was about to use spiral energy to go to the fucking space oh no he might make another wonder swan the wonder swan was really good gotta stop him don't let him do it the wonder swan's actually like the most fucking tragic thing because it is like it's way better than any of the gameboys at the time and obviously the gba kip kept in and swept up but that was because gun pay was gone that shit clicks like a mother for the wonder swan so that's the neogeo pocket color you're right
Starting point is 02:43:41 you're right the wonder swan was never released in any other region it's fucking amazing uh and lastly we're gonna take one from jair and he wants to know uh hey fran cast of the best super jair here what games used their best track too early leaving the final boss track unsatisfying uh assassins creed to yeah whatever you're talking about the venice rooftops the best song in the game and the first and only times you hear it are doing the rooftop race missions which are optional and completely nothing unnecessary and then when you fight the borja pope in the fucking uh in rome in the the church you hear no music you hear nothing and you just hear ominous sound effects yeah and then he dies to nothing to be fair though that's like
Starting point is 02:44:39 you know assassins creed final boss fights who really cares that was um universally terrible that was uh jess per kid who did the soundtrack right so dark ciders too also composed by jess per kid uh when i was working on it i remember the game being completely silent for the longest time and then all the soundtrack came in at once and there was a moment where i fought the first major boss in the game and an incredible song plays and i went this is a really special game and then when you get to the last boss the music is nowhere near as as it's very good just per kid is incredible yeah but it is not nearly as punctuated as that one song at the first major boss of the game anyone who's played that first major boss um probably has a good idea
Starting point is 02:45:25 of what the shame that undertale spills megalovania while you're entering your name no waste yeah uh i think most of the castlevania games their best song is not the last boss song but that's never a problem not really but i mean the castle many guys are front loaded with good music to start unless the clock tower somehow magically got placed at the at the end boss yeah the fuck knows the best song no exactly like bloody tears doesn't play during dracula uh crystal castle in castlevania 2 doesn't play at the end like there's there's so many best songs in those games that aren't the dracula fight so sure usually dracula fight is not that fun anyway it's usually i mean wiley stage the journey right the journey it's the journey that
Starting point is 02:46:12 counts wiley stage is like the final area so i guess i'll let that rock streets of rage does it where it has the best song no the first one has the best song as the last boss battle because the first seven bosses it's the boss theme and then the last boss mr x it's a new version of the boss theme they did it they did it perfect where it's just an improved version of that song and when you start hearing it you immediately know it's the boss theme i've been trained to hear this song but then it's different i got one that doesn't come up often um in beautiful joe when you're fighting the last boss of that uh where you're fucking you're where you're piloting six margin yeah and it's playing the beautiful joe theme but it's the uh the the orchestrated
Starting point is 02:46:59 version of it it's fucking cool it's been a minute but yeah but no uh i'd say assassin's creed is probably the worst of that the worst defender i can think of especially considering how good fucking venice rooftops is oh my god when the when that which is why when soul caliber came around yeah and you and it shows up and it starts playing it it's like it's his song of course yeah no not of course i'd say that we'd be too smart of a pig yeah yeah no no it's actually i know you saw me i was super happy and freaking out that they picked that one but it was like but but it's like what else would you pick yeah yeah what song comes close to that you pick you pick uh fucking what's that song by uncle yeah i know the way yeah that that song the assassin's creed song yeah wonderful one
Starting point is 02:47:48 of one's another game that does it good the best song at the end i think i know some people like tables turn better but time only knows time only knows all right what's coming up what's coming out i don't know what i forget what's coming out recently i'm sure there's a bunch of shit mafia three is coming out and i am looking forward to purchasing that and playing it if the reviews are good uh install for more time i will spend this week downloading a bunch of patches for psvr supported games for next week uh oh forgot to mention it did you check out lost odyssey on xbox one i did see that it dropped i started playing it again uh it runs slightly better and it's still incredible how's the loading uh a little bit better i'd imagine it's a little bit
Starting point is 02:48:54 better it's a little bit better but you don't need to switch disk ever okay oh it just downloads the full 23 gigs and you need the disc one uh we talked about go play that game if you haven't played lost odyssey it's 15 bucks at game stop or ep games or whatever the fuck if you're listening and you need an xbox rpg so good even if it's not like delivering at least get to the first couple stories of the thousand years of memories and see if that'll hook you in yeah because those only get better and better as you go and while you're doing it remember like look at the talent list and who made it and just remember remember in your head that you're basically playing final fantasy 13 yeah or what should be final fantasy 13 and the game kind of feels even better i i love
Starting point is 02:49:44 the characters in that game yeah they're great dude they're great and you got my boy on the on the draw on the ones and twos yeah yeah you know you got fucking takahiko in a way artist of vagabond who did all the designs yeah the characters it's just such i forgot he was the guy and when i saw the name come up i was like right yeah right because you don't see the art going in you only see it at the at the um on the main men are the the pause menu or whatever where you see the characters little portraits but you don't see it anywhere else in the game i think if i remember correctly so i had forgotten even the box doesn't have the art it has uh renders uh we talked about it last week but uh aragami the uh the uh tentu like stealth game uh comes out in ps4 and i think
Starting point is 02:50:30 pc ps4 pc yeah on tuesday so i've been meaning to check that out i want that to be really good i'm afraid it's gonna be like stiff or clunky like sticks yeah sticks we looking forward to sticks too no that was so that was too harsh i'm sorry that was real what if the developers are listening that was way too harsh well i i didn't say no fuck you no but that was way too harsh matt uncalled for i'm sorry no that's fine um so yeah i'm aragami i really hope that's good yeah i'll all continue playing um uh river city ransom uh tokyo rumble and uh tried more sonic boom it'd be cool if like that actually turned out to be really really good and not just like eh whatever i still want to finish dead rising yeah i uh i need to next time when you guys are over i need to show
Starting point is 02:51:19 you dead rising too to make sure if i'm crazy yeah i remember i did want to check that out next time i come over because i'm specifically i've been thinking about it i don't want to play it until i can figure out if this is a me thing or it's the game or whatever so i by the way i watched the trailer for dead rising four and like i have no excitement to play that game well that looks like totally different that's not that doesn't look like frank that doesn't sound like frank well it is a different voice no i know but like it doesn't look like frank it doesn't sound like frank grizzled the time mechanics are gone the the game is like way more on the nose goofy but at the same time way more like um realistically colored and stuff where it's like dark and gritty and dead
Starting point is 02:52:05 rising three interests me a lot more actually because it shouldn't oh no it's it's it's way grittier i played a good okay i played a couple hours of it i wouldn't begrudge anyone to not play that because that is i just wanted for the super turbo oh you don't need that's that's standalone oh cool yeah lucky me dead rising four while what you're saying is not incorrect it's more colorful and more wow really than dead rising three is really yeah dang because when i look at dead rising four it's like way too on the nose with like fireworks guns and ice and ice swords and more serious and in a like don't have fun way because i i like the the thing that i really like about the first dead rising i never played any of the others is like 99 of the weapons and
Starting point is 02:52:54 items are really innocuous they're just you're just holding a weight or a rake or a a sickle or whatever and that like now in dead rising four it's like the weapons are really trying to be goofy like again like an ice sword or a fireworks gun they're about as goofy as they are in dead rising two i think yeah two is where the the crafting started and they had like the paddle chain three is all about vehicles and making them yeah when i saw when i saw the vehicles in four i was like uh what is this and that's the most open world one of them all where you're in an entire city whereas at least dead rising four seems to be the mall and like the area around a mount around it yeah but you know i you know try whatever really but like yeah three was not super
Starting point is 02:53:36 let me finish one and two first i'm looking forward thousands of dead rising games to uh the next step slash info reveal in the overwatch sombra arg yeah yeah when's that schedule for aka the big nothing yeah because we're getting fucking nothing and if you think we're getting anything that's not nothing why why are you saying this stupid because this arg has been going on for a long ass time for months ever since launch almost and every time a loading screen or a website or a decrypted server is uncovered right it reveals another loading screen or another website or another decrypting server yeah but the moment you don't care that's when they'll that's when they've won everyone's theory no that's not true mothman's theory yeah is that uh wow the call out the reveal
Starting point is 02:54:30 is going to be on the day of the dead which is up close to halloween right and that's the same day that uh blizzard is having some sort of um something they better have fucking day because i was gonna say they're having a they're having an event in um spain or mexico which is like weird because like blizzcon is november 4th so yeah this whole thing could be like close to that or around that and it would be perfect to match it because sombras theme is probably that she's like from there as well and so on so prepare yourselves for nothing never get that we're looking at a dojin and the only language is spanish and you can't get that out of your head the whole time it's awful you ever get that when you're hard to overcome when you're watching santo bugito and you're wondering why
Starting point is 02:55:23 you're watching santo bugito yes every week okay just check in i thought it was just me no i got to get my weekly dose what hell did i get trapped in where i could only watch santo bugito what's coming on the channel matt did you not watch santo bugito i don't i know let's do a let's watch of you know santo bugito yes yeah i don't know what's going on right oh you okay so that's one something you just somehow missed out on this okay it might be beyond your time oh no no it's not okay it's not okay um maybe it'll jog your memory but like there it is i love hunts and woolly's quick search you know no that's yeah let's google these guys okay yeah no i know that fly remember this fly in this fact yes i do know this i do know the name is not great you want to have a weekend woolly and
Starting point is 02:56:15 we'll just swap oh it's we'll just swap that uh do you want to have a weekend woolly where we'll just swap between like santo bugito and quads and nut shack episodes what about and just watch those three in a row only if you can wash our palette or cleanse our palettes with nano land yeah and our real monsters is out there too nano land's like the fucking champagne compared we'll close it off with some bump in the night yeah yeah yeah some bump in the night mr bumpy you know and uh and then and then have a nightcap of and angela anaconda no no that's too new and stupid it's not it's not it's not it's not i've never actually watched that's old angela anaconda was on when i was a kid if it was teletune it's pretty old that's that's too new i'm i'm going ytv because angela anaconda
Starting point is 02:57:08 is actually pretty old it was on when i was a kid so it was like it is that's right 15 years i only i only caught it when it came on teletune which is like the second generation of childhood yeah my second child there was only two generations my second childhood was teletune your second and post angela anaconda you know yeah ronan ronan warriors was the barrier between my first and second that was the that was what changed you back into a kid yes i went from a boy to a man back into a boy for a little bit there were two ages of children the first age and then the second and that was it basically pretty much boy stands no boys run men stand and then men run again yeah what's coming up on the channel though uh i think we were we're pretty on our schedule now with
Starting point is 02:58:04 shitstorm and turd nato castlevania and omicron and megaman but we do we do have uh two videos set up this week they're kind of gonna be like third bonus videos one is we took a look at uh mr mr van helsing you know the one yes that all the kids are familiar with and me and pat took a look at party hard in which pat fucked up all the game audio but that's okay good that's fine never let him live it down it's a totally listenable episode but we had a good time playing it's upsetting because our audio is usually so fucking good yeah it's perfect okay guys um yes are the we're paying rent under this bus and it's late for the month yeah it's the third so we need to get on that so if you guys can chip in uh yeah that'd be great absolutely okay um well e-transfer you the payment
Starting point is 02:58:58 thank you thank you it's a nice little cozy spot i mean oh yeah under the bus for sure for sure we've all found our little corner you know uh and uh if i had mentioned that video and pal was here he'd be like yeah there was a fuck up with the with the with our audio i fucked it up he's honest in that way yeah so he threw himself under there so we have uh friday nights and saturday mornings getting a little bit scarier as well over the course of this month so uh a little more janky or two yes if that were possible if jank scares you you're in luck it doesn't it should jank scares me more than actual scary things liam knows this because think of the thing that i told you about that yeah that's jank related that i fucking hate when you flip into his spider's legs like i hate that too
Starting point is 02:59:53 but that's not the one i was thinking of but uh yeah that's just bad and like fucking descent and crap like that but anyway it's fine jank can be scary that's all we got coming up yeah i guess i guess oh i thought i never i didn't know where you were going i thought you were gonna say something though it's just not i got no awkward fumblings they're the best the hallmark of this podcast all right i gotta go watch the rest of the cage lucha underground black black and a black and a black i 溶け込む影
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