Castle Super Beast - SBFC 175: Destiny of Wild Speed Galaxy (feat. Jake Kaufman & Sheena Perez)
Episode Date: December 13, 2016West Coast Friendcast! Sheena(@psychobilly2422) and Jake Kaufman(@virtjk) shoot the shite with Liam, Matt and Woolie. Heads up: No news this week, just gauntlet throwing, PSX impressions, mail, and WI...LD SPEED. You can watch us record the podcast live on twitch.tv/superbestfriendsplay
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We can start right here and just, like, get the point across that maybe the best way to
make this plan that we've just been discussing happen would be to just brute force it.
Yeah, so here's a fucking throwdown. Are you man enough to, are you person enough to accept
this challenge? The idea, you know, the inception of the of the plan that Matt and I was, we're
hoping to make happen. We wanted a marriage of Meg Gordon and Meg Festa happen. Yes. And it feels
like it, there was no romance. There's no romance happening. Spark, you know, so Jake, you're saying
if we just start swinging elbows, right? If we just honestly just put the call out there
and say this is something we as the as the people who would even play and the people who
are like super fans and like up on everything, you know, of parties involved, you know, like
seating this idea and getting like a really good reception in the first place, like,
we just kind of brainstormed it together. I didn't have this idea before now because I didn't think
before and was was not playing magfest like if you wanted to. So you're saying just hypothetically
hypothetically, you could just challenge him live on a microphone or the internet and call him a
coward. And I believe you said just purely hypothetical though, right? And hypothetically,
you said the winner would okay. Well, like factually, then the winner gets the loser's car, you
said hypothetically, hypothetically, let's not go crazy. We can work out the details.
Maybe a handy. Maybe a handy.
Perhaps we'll reach around. Both people involved, right? Everyone wins tremendously.
What ends up happening, though? What's Grant Kirkhoke supposed to do?
Just make 20 grand don't use the water. You're going to laugh so hard about having said that as
soon as you hear the album, I just put in your hand. Oh, yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
Three. We'll check it out. I'm not even going to tell you why. Okay. Don't spoil. Don't spoil. I'm
going to put this whole performance thing where we challenge him to as a sort of like, you know,
like, you know, a friendly feud as it were. Yeah, yeah. I met Mick Gordon once. We went to dinner
together. We were in a Mexican restaurant. And I remember here sitting at the head of the table
to see Stan for me. And it was the funny guy in the room the entire time. So I have a feeling
this might get through to him. And he might actually be like, you know, fuck it.
All right, this kid up life. I remember that awkward fat motherfucker, you know,
what's he, what's he doing now? Oh, shit.
That's the sound of like, oh, I'm shocking to all right. Yeah. No, but it's not because you guys
think I'm talking about what I'm working on. But it's because of how I look now I could get up on
a stage.
Yeah, I'm always posting selfies with my dog on Twitter because I'm happy to be alive. That's
good. I'm happy to be healthy. Finally. Wait, wait, but all this, but the core ready to play shows
again, guys. What is happening? I don't even know what's happening. We're in the past right now.
We're in the non-canon time zone of the world, PST. Yeah.
The LA cast, I guess, is happening. Everybody introduce yourselves. Yes, please. I'm Matt.
I'm Woollie. I'm Brennan. There you go. I'm Liam. Pleasure to meet you guys. I'm Sheena. I am Jake.
So what do you, what do you guys, what do you guys do? What's your, what are you? What's your
purpose? Not it thing. I gotta think about that. Yeah, yeah. Give me a minute. No, I have to
like think about it. What about this computer? Hey dudes, what's up? I'm Sheena. I'll sit on a
PsychoBilly2422 on the internet, I guess, for all you internet people. PsychoBilly freak out. Yeah,
exactly. I make video games. That's pretty cool. What are some video games you've made? Spokies,
House of Jumpscares. Oh my god. Spokies, Jumpscare matches. Which, which I have played, I don't know
how many times and each time I get a bit further. Yeah, me too. And each time I start cursing Sheena.
Big frightens. Yeah. Because every time. You've done it in videos and I'm sitting there and I'm
like, ah, like every single time I get excited. And, and, and each time I get, I'm like, well,
it's not going to be that scary because I've gone through it a couple times. But when I get to the
further layers, the deeper, older layers, I'm like, oh, I start getting terrified
embarrassingly early. Like seven floors in. Is that a slime thing? Get it away from me.
Yeah. Seriously, my girlfriend has had hours of laughter at my expense because I can't,
I can't deal with it. I was a laughter because of Matt. Yeah. That's so rude.
Are you ready, sir, Jake? Yes, indeed. I am Jake. I am Sheena's biggest fan by far.
And I get to watch her make her game every day because I work here in the same office.
But that's not who you are. But he's getting to it. And I get to hang out in this greatness
while I work on the music for Shovel Knight. Yes. I have a composer and sound designer for
Shovel Knight and Shantae, a mighty switch force and Double Dragon Neon. Yes. You're missing one.
Well, I'm missing about 94. You're missing what? You're missing Liam's favorite. No, he said mighty
switch force. Oh, I'm sorry. This is the one time all weekend because I've been talking about you
quite a bit where it's like, why do you guys keep avoiding saying mighty switch force? And we're
not. We're not. We just forget. And of course, Woolly gets the shaft because Valkyrie Vanguard
doesn't get mentioned anywhere in the game. Sorry. That's not a soundtrack. That's just a preview.
I know, but it's so good. But it's so good. Turnaround is so good. Of course I have. And
everyone on my stream has heard it. Many times, sir. You're saying it's going to get better?
It's going to get way better. Okay. It's going to be so epic it makes you pee yourself. And then
that's one of multiple stages. He can only have so much. To get back to peeing myself,
we were discussing, again, the most selfish of all ideas, which is Jake and Mick on stage playing
each other's music at Magfest. Drinking each other off, basically. Right on in front of everybody.
Just to give everyone a refresher, even though we do it every couple of weeks, Mick Gordon
be in the composer of Killer Angstink and Doom and Wolfenstein the New Order. That's correct.
So we regularly talk about like, pleasuring him in some sort of way by how God like, he is. Call us
back. There you go. At least once. Wink, wink. Mick, as if you're massive, you're going to use
further inflation. Know that my partner in crime, Robbie, the guy that mixes all of my music to
sound less like shit because I'm a shit mixer. It's great to have a team, right? You know? All
right. So Robbie's a massive gamer and he just played Wolfenstein for the first time. And he's
like, I've never before seen him react to a game like this before. He's like, I like this game
after every cut scene or every set piece. He's like, I love this game. She know, watch this.
That's true story. I'm not exaggerating. That's a super true story. Like we're all walking out of
the office and he just stops all of a sudden. He's like, you guys, you need to know Wolfenstein
is the best game. And we're like, all right. And in that tone of voice, he's kind of like
a person. Yeah, right. So I'm like, the music writing is like, I know it's great. It's awesome.
And I'm like, yeah, that's my boy. Like I only met Mick once, but it was he made an impression
on me as a kind of guy who might accept my challenge if he's if he's if he's tough enough.
Hypothetically, hypothetically, hypothetically, so we'll see where it goes. Hypothetically,
you guys are living, I'm going to be a time lord here. I'm gonna, I'm gonna project that he does.
And then, and then you're gonna win his car. Well,
it's not no, no, no, no, no, that's the rule of being a human being who evolved with dogs,
you know, by their side is, I don't know, man, is to check it out is never take a man's dog or
a woman's dog, never take in a person's dog because you need your dog. I couldn't bet you don't
need a car. About a dog, though, can you take a dog's dog? Oh, yeah. Jake, Jake, what about a dog
car like in like in Dumb and Dumber? That's my car, right? I even got the dog flying around
in there creating a mess feeding them notches and shit. Okay, okay. All right. I thought I thought
I was gonna get you now. I was like, you know, like if you ride your dog, if you have a giant
rideable dog, yeah, like a like a St. Bernard, well, then we're, you know, we're getting crossing
over here. Yeah, yeah, Clifford, you know, I would do a Falcourt for sure.
You can never get me on life. It's very apparent. I can't.
Things are going crazy around here. We're doing all kinds of cool stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We work
together in a big studio. We're doing all kinds of creative projects, but I won't take up the whole
time ranting about the Zona. No, no problem. Quite frankly, I just, I like the sound of a gauntlet
being thrown at the start of a podcast. Absolutely. You know, that's a hypothetical gauntlet. I could
purely have a gauntlet. A really hypothetical sound. As far as podcasts go, this being the 175th
podcast, I'd like to welcome you guys on. Thanks for, thanks for joining. That's something
Centennial. Yeah. Centi by Centennial, I think. What it is is oh, oh, if we were a comic book,
we would have a foil cover or a prison cover. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, like, like X-Men Alpha
and X-Men Omega and age of apocalypse, right? Over the edge, double edge Max. Well, we'll get
there in a minute. 175 is the number of tracks on the Pokemon Sun and Moon OST. Son of a, what?
That's what's up. 175 is a big number. Did you write that down?
Esoteric facts is what we do every episode. I love it. But that's staggering. That's the number.
Yeah, I thought they're like, they're like six discs, the sets. It's bananas. So I thought Okami
was the most overwhelming soundtrack I had. It's a well over 100. I don't know the exact number,
but it's really discs on discs of music. But 175 in Sun and Moon. Yeah. Oh, I couldn't imagine
working on that. I'd say Shuffle Night is probably over 100 now, but only with all of the
expansions together, and that doesn't count. Yeah, it's different. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Time to work on the new stuff. That was, that had to be cranked up for a product launch cycle.
Like half of them are just like... How many composers was that? Can your audience like
ping us back on that? I could just... Percent of them? Yeah. Not on the spot, because... We'll check
it. Yeah, we'll check it. Yeah, there you go. If it was just one person, I'm gonna eat.
Well, it's been, it's been like how many years since the last new Pokemon game?
X and Y. It's been four years. Half of the tracks are just goosy.
Nah, like more like three. If you had four years, how many songs could you crank out for one game?
They're just team skull themes. And they told you you could make a Pokemon game.
How many bean burritos you got? Let's hypothetical...
Can we get somebody to walk my dog? Hypothetical like 2000 and every other day.
Man. You have four years. Man, I can't even back up envelope it because I might,
I might go into Super Saiyan mood and then like, you know, end up in the hospital for a while and
like laugh the entire time there while, you know, writing more stuff like that. Once you go full
on manic, you can't come back from that. So... You should challenge the single composer for Sun and
Moon. And then steal their car. You tell me it's not. I can't imagine it is.
And, and, and, you know, as often said fact checking will ruin the podcast.
Yes. We try not to check our facts as often as we can.
Yeah. I have like, did I get the job or not level like pit of stomach dread?
I could do 150 tracks in a four years and four. Yeah, whatever. Yeah.
Do you get 2000? It's only 2000 being burritos. You have to feed yourself the rest of the time
like an adult. Yeah. And your dog only gets walked every other day. So you still have to
spend time with him. Deal. Deal. Deal. Deal. I'll take it. I'm a bargainer. I can understand it.
Well, how many, you did like over like 200 chiptune songs at one point. So obviously,
that was over a course of like, how many years? Well, you just divide the number of games by
the number of multiple games. No, I mean not never games. I mean just general tracks.
The thing is, those have gotten more and more infrequent over the past few years as I've gotten
more busy doing multiple jobs at once to pay the increasing bills of my ambition filled working
spaces. He's buying more tubas. Empire. My standard of living has gone up. So my requirement has
gone up. And thus I've painted myself in your corner where I have to take a bunch of jobs at
once to support the whole working of all this stuff. Well, I mean, yeah, because you you guys
just gave us a tour of this place and there's like a great area for a backstage hardcore
wrestling match. There's all these like, there's a safe. Yeah, there is. There's some accessories.
An industrial kitchen with an amazing range that I want to take on the plane home with me.
It's a fully professional TV kitchen that just happened to be there when we broke down the wall.
It was like a Zelda game. Yeah. Go in, there's a kitchen in there. There's a kitchen. That's it.
It's like that's good on TV, TV kitchen, everything's chrome, professional appliances and stuff.
And those are like people side safes too. Yeah, that's a body in there. There's probably a body
in there. None of us have actually seen the guy that owns those safes. We've never seen him open
up. There you go. It is too nice. I wouldn't say that, dude. He's too nice. No, man. No, no,
that's what I'm saying. That's why it's suspicious. That's that. Yeah, maybe. Maybe there's bodies in
there, but yeah, there's a lot of stuff here. We've built it up. I invested everything that I made
to date on Shovel Knight into the studio. Yeah. Instead of living larger, putting money away like
a smart person or starting a family and this and that, I have my priorities straight. I'm gonna check
out and invested everything into the studio and we geared up and we learned how to use a
TriCaster, which is the video switching device that- I haven't even heard that word before.
Watch Boogie Streams, man. He goes in on it all the time. Yeah, so we built all this stuff up
and learned how to use it and practice with it and did test runs and opened it up to a few people
on a private YouTube stream and shopped it out and continued iterating and improving on it. And
so now we're ready to stream every day. Yeah. And now people are turning the lights on in your
studio, controlling the colors. Yeah. There's a website for that. There's a website for that
and it's circle.mitpotion.com. And you can fuck up the studio live. There's lights and lasers that
go off. It's gonna be a lot of crazy shit that happens like further down the road. Like there's
gonna be like a specific ding where I'm gonna get like right, it's a run around the Nerf gun and peg
people in the head. It's not just lights, it can be triggers for anything in the studio.
So we're gonna let you drive the studio through the RPG that we're building. We had this joke at a
world. This one turns the power off. Ruin the music live. Imagine running around in the Zelda
overworld and because that's what it kind of looks like now. It's using open source background tiles
but it's like a full town and you run around and there's like bells everywhere. And if you ring
the bells, fucking light turns on in my room or something that runs around with the Nerf gun.
This lightable dick just smacks Robbie in the face because it's one that we were thinking about
doing. This button makes a dog bark and bakes it and saves it on the track you're working on.
I think Dream Theater did that in one of their albums. It exports it and it automatically
uploads it to SoundCloud. It was liquid tension experiment on one of their albums.
No, I think it was Dream Theater. At one point, the song is called When the Water Breaks and at
one point in the song you just hear... At that point in the recording process was exactly when
the baby was born. So it stopped working when it was dead and came back and was like, all right,
let's keep going. Let's finish it now. Yes, that's cool. That's what those guys are about. Or there's
a hidden bell that you don't know where it is in the game world but people can ring it and if they
do, the dummy of a scary clown will jump out of a location in your studio and it'll scare someone
or no one. We hear at your studio in your anti-sound room. That's why you have to destroy all sound
and that's what this room is about. If I can take a minute to lower your heart rate, there are six
composers on Pokemon Sun and Moon. Thank you so much. Yeah, no problem. That's a super manageable
quantity. That was really good that you got that out there. That's super... That's whatever. That's like
a week. Yeah. The problem is you could bank through all these tracks in a couple months but that's
contiguous and that's not humanly possible. We have to take breaks and like sleep sometimes and like
go out with the family. You know what sleep is. I'm starting to open... I understand it. Look,
I'm like Ariel in the Little Mermaid. Like I've been up to the surface. I understand it's up there
and I need... I want more. You need legs. You need legs, damn it.
I want to be with the people I love. Oh my god, Aron, we're done. We're done.
I want to be in Valencia Mall on Saturday instead of in my room. There are from time... We like
to sometimes again deliver factoids. There are sometimes factoids and breaking news, ice breaking
news actually. Ice breaking news. So we want to catch the viewers up to speed because there's
some ice breaking news. This is important. Do you want to preface this? I'm not sure if you're
going to... Yeah, we're going to take it back to the start. Yes. Okay, we're going to take it back
to the start. So The Fast and the Furious, that's a movie. It's indeed. That happened. It's an
institution. Are you guys aware of the title The Fast and the Furious? It's just The Fast and
the Furious. Just the title, not the movies, doesn't matter. Yeah, okay. So when you go to
Japan, things are different. It's not called The Fast and the Furious. What is it called? It's
called Wild Speed. Oh, cool. Right? Yeah. Okay. But there's a lot of different Fast and the Furious
movies. So Too Fast, Too Furious, as you recall. Yeah, as you guys must know. 25, 35, 34 Furious,
you know, we're all meme-lorts here. Let's do it. It became Wild Speed X2, right? Times 2.
And that's the moment where like, so anyone who's paying attention goes, hold on a minute,
that's a video game naming convention. This is going places. The Fast and the Furious,
Tokyo Drift equals Wild Speed X3, Tokyo Drift. Makes sense. Right? Where do you go from there?
Well, Fast and Furious, which is the part four name, becomes Wild Speed Max.
Right? We're getting started now. It's like Razor names. Yeah.
And then Fast 5, right? What do you do in Japan? Wild Speed Mega Max.
All right. You were revving up the engine. Fast and Furious 6. Where do we go? Well,
Wild Speed Euro mission. That's what happened. I guess, yeah. That makes sense. There was one
mission in Europe. All right. Okay. The Snakes Revenge. Right. Exactly, yeah. Furious 7. Wild
Speed Sky Mission. That's what happened. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Friends, friends, as you know.
So that's the lineage, right? And so the breaking news is that scientists are asking,
where do we go from here? Now, Matt, this weekend informed me that the name of the new movie in
America is The Fate of the Furious. And I'm like, God damn. Did you see Gina's face contorted?
And I think it was Glee and Wonder. It's like, fuck you. That is sick. It only works when your
dumb series has seven entries before it. Can you drop a name like The Fate of the Furious?
So, Will, you put on your lab coat. Yeah. I have to know. You connect to the stuff.
Okay, wait. Before we even get there, I said, Willi, what would this be called in Japan then?
And Willi took a guess. Do you remember your guess? I don't even know. It's like wild speed
destiny, I believe. You said wild speed destiny. Yeah. I was a destiny of wild speed. That would
make some sense. A destiny of wild speed too. But when you start, when you amp up the stakes and
you go to The Fate of the Furious, you get that serious with it. It's got, you got a match,
you know? And so I didn't know where to go from there. It's going places, right?
Wild speed galaxy. And so the rumors right now, it looks, it was not rumors because I saw the logo
for it, but The Fate of the Furious in Japan is going to be called Wild Speed Ice Break. So
so they're going in hard and I don't know where this ends because we've played with every variant
of Fast and of Furious so far that I'm like, the only place you go with part nine is just call the
movie The Fury or something along those lines. Something ultra stripped down. We're going in
that aesthetic direction where everything is just like, you know, instead of walking dead, it's just
like the dead or the walking. Get minimalist with it. Yeah. But like I am thoroughly all about this
life of wild speed and it's video game street fighter-esque naming conventions. You don't even
really like slash you. You just love these titling naming conventions. I haven't seen any of them.
Yeah. I haven't watched the single one. I know you haven't. You see them on like yogurt. It's like
I don't play Alpha Turbo GX. Yeah. Whatever. It's the best. Street fighter naming tactics.
Does anyone out there that's listening know of any American franchises or series that have had
Japanese translations that have titles like this? The best guess I could think of at the time was
maybe the Resident Evil movies with the Biohazard stuff. Liam suggested they're probably just called
Biohazard and they probably are. But if they have dumber like Biohazard retribution of Fate Side
Story Legend of Alice. Guided. Yeah. I don't know. There's got to be something. Please let us know
if there's anything that's even akin to the Fast and the Furious series. We have to go deeper.
Yeah. We have to go deeper. There's lore to be mined out of that cave. Get your bar hats.
Yeah. But yeah, no. I guess with that, we can find out what our weeks were like because
I believe we had them. We've had a busy week. Was there a week that took place in your life?
We're currently in LA, like we kind of alluded to, but we can all get into that quickly about
what we've been up to. Yeah, I'd say so. But before that, really quickly, aside from LA stuff,
I failed to mention it last time, but I told you a bit that I recently finished The Disaster Artist,
the novel based on The Room. Are you guys familiar with the motion picture of The Room?
Wait, Tommy Wiseau?
Tommy Wiseau.
Eight times. Eight times.
Okay. So bad.
Okay. So.
I know you're a new friend each time with my buddy Pablo.
Right.
That was two from before. Oh, okay.
He forced this on me the first time and he's like, you expect it now?
The Room gets forced upon people often. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Oh, it doesn't feel like someone else and they're just like, well, thanks.
My cherry hasn't been popped yet, so I guess we'll get there.
I'm that weird ass dude who watched it the second time by myself the next day.
You're like, it's getting better. No, no, I'm just trying to understand it.
I'm trying to understand what's so unique about his mind.
Yeah. Well, if you want a good insight, you read this making of book that's written by the
or co-written by the other actor that played the blonde guy, Mark.
By the way, Mark, how's his sex life?
I'm kind of hesitant to read that because of the mystique of the superhero.
No, they still don't know. They still don't know.
So he surmises, he muses about how Tommy Wiseau works.
But if you've seen the movie, anyone that really took my recommendations for watching
Terrorist House, if you don't know this book, put it in that move that recommendation over
if you've finished that and put it into the Disaster Artist because it's one of the funniest
novels I've ever read. It's going to be my top 10 of novels I've ever read because it was so
hilarious. And if you've watched the room, it's going to be even better.
But even if you haven't watched it, he does such a good job of explaining,
like, this is how I met Tommy Wiseau. This is how I got conned into being into this movie.
And these are all the problems that I'm going to explain, that if you can't understand it
when you watch the movie, I'm giving you the breakdown of why it was like that.
But no actual answers to the mysteries are delivered.
Many paragraphs end with, but I'm not even sure.
This is just what I saw. This is just what I saw.
I just was there. And when I, when I mentioned like,
to know that they still don't really understand them.
Yeah. And this is, this is apparently the guy that knows them best,
that knows Tommy Wiseau the best.
All right, check it out. I was just going, I was just writing,
I'm working on a wiki article about my proposing to be great.
And I was working on it last night. And I was just kind of lamenting the fact,
like the side notes that I haven't read a book since like 2012 or 2013,
properly just sit down and read a book. And so maybe I'll make that my first.
I'll get a Kindle and I'll read this on it.
Or you can listen to the audio book version.
Just a book.
I can listen to audio books.
That's fair enough.
Anyway.
Oh, this motherfucker.
It takes too long to get through because like,
I don't have enough time to sit there.
Yeah, totally, totally.
It's too engaging. I can't sit through it and stuff.
But what you're watching is the masterful work of a segue artist here,
as he brings us right into our sponsor,
which is not actually an audio book.
Audible at all.
I was going to say, we're all going with this.
Oh, I thought that's where you were going.
No.
I'm sorry.
When you said audio book, my brain went there.
I was like, what?
No, because I mentioned it in an audio book,
because I listened to one.
Oh, sorry.
I'm sorry.
Is that awkward?
Pants down, never mind.
Here, I'm going to take a big break.
Check it out.
Cringe.
All right.
I totally, I totally missed that.
That's fine.
On your screen for a minute.
Because I'm the wrong one.
So here's what I was going to say.
Sure.
Before we said we was, I don't want to,
I can't listen to audio books,
but I want to make them for people.
That's interesting.
Okay.
I want to make a music theory primer and rant at them
while reading it and while going over it and stuff.
So people who are, who have sight disabilities
are able to listen to a music lesson that I've written,
like carefully and planned.
Right.
And I'm delivering in like my crazy fucking mad scientist
impassioned robot drone.
Okay, great.
I think people would be into that,
but I can't, I can't consume them,
but I want to produce them.
Like we were talking earlier.
Sure, sure.
Yeah.
I don't, I don't watch Let's Plays,
but I mean all the time.
Yeah.
I was just lamenting the fact that I've never
listened to these guys before.
I am ashamed, but after.
That's a, that's a proper eye roll,
so that's a proper one.
After hanging out with them properly,
like we met once for shoveling the interview.
Yeah.
If anyone that's, that, that watched it for,
three years ago, or E3 videos,
we went to E3.
We interviewed some people at Yacht Club
and Sheldon Knight wasn't even out yet.
And yeah, and you were there and you're,
you're in the video and stuff.
And we're, we're just, you know,
pleasantly chatting about Sheldon Knight.
That's all, that's all it was.
Well, look that at one up.
You get to see fat, uh,
I mean, Jake.
I was doing my best to put on a smile,
but just, just, it's, it's, it's tragic.
It's, I'm doing my best guys.
Well, you were, you were pleasant to us.
So it was fine.
Well, but I highlighted in my day, not, not kidding.
That's not, that's nice, dear.
It was, it was a highlight meeting you guys then too.
We're just now kiss.
Yeah.
Maybe later.
Yeah.
I was so afraid Sheldon Knight wasn't going to be a success.
We had no idea.
You're fucking nailed it then.
We worked so hard because we were so worried
that it wasn't going to be successful because, you know,
we kind of knew all along that people were down
with it based on the fan reaction.
But like, we were so afraid that we, you know,
burn out and, you know, face typical development hell.
Yeah.
Well, I'm sorry to break it to you.
I'm getting alerts here.
Apparently it flopped.
So it was a huge failure.
Shovel Knight just didn't take off.
Reports are coming in from the field.
Full of returning Shovel Knight as quickly as they can.
So successful.
We got roped in to do a lot of extra DLC content.
And I say that lovingly because we are grateful
for every one of our backers.
But the end result is, holy crap,
we got to do like two more years of work on this DLC expansion stuff.
And the, you know, battle mode and all that stuff.
We got to do so much more work.
But luckily for me, because this is my dream gig,
I get to write a lot more music.
There you go.
Much more to do.
So you mentioned your mad scientist drone voice.
So the audio book of the disaster artist,
the guy that wrote it, does his impression of Tommy Wasso.
And he nails it.
And that's the only voice he does.
He does it deadpan just reading an audio book for like,
but he gets a Tommy Wasso.
And he's like, Tommy, but that's not going to work.
It doesn't make any sense.
No, it looks like the hell.
Stop that.
This is big professional shoot.
Everything you explained to me about this just sounds like Ed Wood.
Yeah.
Like that's the vibe I get.
Yeah.
Weird, like completely on another wavelength type of person.
Yeah.
I've long thought that, I'm sorry, I'm the cynic in the room.
I'm the 9-11 truther.
I'm not actually one.
I'm comparing myself to one.
If the earth's not flat, how does it fit on a turtle's back?
Exactly.
You know?
Checkmate atheists.
All the way down, right?
But, okay, so check it out.
Like, I think he's an actor who's doing this persona like Andy Kaufman style.
Yeah, right.
And he's basically paid for by some ultra smart producer who's like,
let me make this guy, he's weird as shit, but he's smart and he gets it.
So it's a work.
Yeah.
He had like a sweatshop somewhere and then some guy walked in and to get some merch for some,
you know, film production studio.
They're like, dude, director guy, you gotta meet this dude.
So fucking weird.
I'm just made him now.
But he's smart, right?
He earns his operation.
You know, he's like a, you know, but he, they taught him how to actually put him through
like, you know, fucking Rocky 4 Russian versus.
And now he, so he made this film and acted in it like this total weirdo.
And he keeps the persona going in public just like Andy did.
So the little bits of details you get is that like when he's being brought around,
the actor in the movie, Tommy West was bringing him around San Francisco.
He's like, what's this building?
He goes, Oh, I own it.
Like, okay.
But what, what, what, what is this building?
Like, what is it?
And goes, no, don't worry about that.
USA fashions.
And he goes, what, what is that Tommy?
And goes, it's my company.
I do some promotional work.
I have to go to London for nine months now.
And then he's like, oh, okay.
It's like, it doesn't give you more insight.
But it makes you more and so I finished his book in like less than a week,
which is astounding for me.
I'm a flow reader because I read like, you know, 20 pages and put it down for like
a two or three days.
But I burnt through it.
And that, that was, that was a real delight.
I want to read it again type book.
I want to go through it again.
That's rare.
And aside from that, I played some Dead Rising 4.
I booted that up right before we left.
And I was actually kind of liking it.
And there was something about the cut scenes in the story,
because it's a very cut scene story heavy at the start where I was like, wow,
I like this editing.
I like the dialogue here.
There's lots of quick cuts of like Frank arguing with the new Frank rather.
And the new voice actor actually liked quite a bit.
Okay.
What do you think of his dialogue?
Because it's like, he has a different kind of tone.
His tone is like, like he's, he jokes a lot to get over the fact that he,
that he got double crossed by the kind of government where he was trying to
expose more zombie stuff after being famous.
And then he's like bitter about that.
And when people talk to him about it, he goes like, no man, just like zombie,
bombing, joke, joke, joke.
And they're like, are you just doing this to mask the fact that you're miserable?
And he goes, maybe, maybe I'm doing that.
So right now, I really, really like it.
And he's, he's arguing in the, in the, in very early on,
he's arguing with a woman in a, in a car.
And he goes, and she goes, what?
This is my car, Frank.
You're not going to drive.
He goes, I always drive the car.
You're not going to drive.
He goes, I always drive the car.
You're not going to edit cuts.
And then he's happily driving the car.
And she's like, you know, whatever.
Smash cuts.
Yeah.
So I played, I played like a good hour of it.
And I was like, this is, this is, this is fun.
This is good.
And I like the cut scenes in the story.
But aside from that, I didn't, I didn't get much farther.
But, you know, essentially it's still like Dead Rising 2.
DR3 gameplay, basically.
No, no, no.
It's more, it's more like DR3 was like open world,
like an entire city to go through.
Like combining weapons that hurt was like the big thing
that they were pushing in, in this one.
Well, that's the push for the last bunch.
Right.
You're right.
And not one.
Not one.
Yeah.
One is the only one.
But Dead Rising people always pushing stuff.
Pushing zombies.
Vehicles are still a big thing in this one, right?
I didn't get to them if they are.
But I was enjoying it.
But I hope so.
That's most of the fun.
Man.
It's just playing through a whole bunch of,
I guess the zebra head.
I mean, the one you're, you know, in the first one,
you can get the horse heads and stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then I'm trying to figure out the best element
of Dead Rising series.
Like the, what should we call it?
The Servbot head as well and stuff like that.
It's all gameplay videos.
Hilarious.
Yeah.
It's like watching anyone in a horse head is just hilarious.
Unless you're one of those people who's like,
horse heads are so over.
Yeah.
You know, they're coming back.
There's a lot of, a lot of news.
That's the Red Ghost costume.
This is the new hot shit right now.
There's a Morrigan outfit where like Frank is just
full on in Morrigan from Darkstalker's Cosplay.
Pretty strong.
Pretty strong.
That's nice.
Yeah.
So I didn't get, I didn't get much farther than that.
But aside from that, something that I wouldn't,
you wouldn't think I would watch, but we just said,
let's throw it on because we had some recommended to us
the crown on Netflix, which is about, you know,
the Queen Elizabeth coming into prominence and whatever.
I'm like, why would I watch that?
Why would, why would?
I'm not into Pride and Prejudice or like old,
like, you know, old, old timey, like British things like that.
I would, I'd never watched a single episode
of Downton Abbey or anything like that.
And then people were like, swear by that show.
They're like, oh, it's so good.
I hear it's like really good.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
Super, super lavishly made.
I watch, we watch, I watch about nine episodes of the crown
and was really, I'm like, oh my God, Prince Philip.
What are you doing?
I'm like, no, all he just wants to do is drive the plane,
but Elizabeth can't.
But what is she going to do?
Like it came to that really, really quickly.
It's one of those things where I just went,
okay, next episode, next episode, next episode.
Like, no, there's no, Elizabeth isn't jumping
through the windows, shooting two guns.
There's no zombies.
There's no nothing.
It's just weird because that actually happened.
But I mean, in Czech Wikipedia, you know.
Well, okay.
John Lithgow plays.
He's in this?
Yeah.
No, he plays God Winston Churchill.
Okay.
And I'll just give you this line, Willie.
And then goes, have people told you that I'm a monster?
That's okay.
I am a monster.
You need to be a monster to beat Hitler.
So that's the line that he has.
That he says very, very early on.
John Lithgow is really good in it.
John Lithgow is really good, period.
And Matt, I forget the actor Matt Smith.
Matt, he played a doctor who?
Third rock threw you off.
Exactly.
I was at that age where I didn't like being yelled at.
I resented to being like this high volume stuff.
I didn't even like the Sega Genesis because it was too blurring.
Don't talk to me like that TV.
Man, don't talk to me like that TV.
It was just all on all the time.
But what was that, the fucking snow movie where he's the bad guy?
Cliffhanger.
Cliffhanger, but yeah, that's the Lithgow of origin.
I've come around hard on John Lithgow.
Yeah.
And so it's haven't finished yet, but like.
But Stuart too well, right?
Let's just look through the big cast, you know?
What weird action movie was French Stuart in?
Stargate, where his eyes are always open.
Yeah.
He plays a tough soldier in Stargate, the movie, not the show or anything like that.
She would have badassed.
Yeah, it was.
I would have him over for tea.
And like JGL is just JGL.
Like Joseph Gordon Lovett is doing his thing.
Yeah, yeah.
It doesn't matter.
He shines in everything.
Doesn't even matter.
Yeah.
He's just like whatever kids.
He's like the cool kid in class.
He just shows up, you know, he uses the class and just runs off.
And then.
He doesn't remember being a mess with girls or something.
He doesn't even know.
Third rock.
Third rock from the sun is like, it's like the wire.
It's like everyone went on to do well, I believe, to some degree.
I don't think the mom woman did the female character.
I don't remember.
Yeah, I'm not sure what she did or anything.
While there's no action scenes, there was one thing where, historically,
this like deadly fog rolled into London and stayed around for three days.
Well, that's an episode.
Yeah, so Churchill's like, we will beat the fog.
Because there's like, this is why it's exciting.
It's like there's a report.
There's an environmental report.
And so this is in the 50s.
People are like, environment?
What?
Science?
Get?
No.
Shut up.
Shut up.
Shut up.
So like a report is sent to Churchill and he's like, no.
Out of my face.
He's going into Nixon.
And then the, yeah, sorry.
The evil fog rolls into town.
And then Churchill's like, what?
I didn't know.
And they're like, no, we see either report.
He's like, we don't beat the fog.
And yeah, it's rolling into Nixon.
Yeah, it's rolling into Nixon.
But it's really, really good.
That was an episode where I'm like, I need to watch more of this.
Like there was an evil fog.
OK.
So that was kind of anything of note I've done leading up to this trip.
Try to jump it on a plane.
Recommend it.
Recommend it.
All right.
Let's jump across.
Sheena, what'd you do this week?
Um, a lot of bullshit, I guess.
I guess I should start off by saying that I have this guilty pleasure
for really shitty TV shows.
Yeah.
Like every once in a while.
So I guess I recently discovered that MTV, and I, like, I don't, I...
You recently discovered MTV?
I recently discovered that MTV has a show, and it's like a spin-off show,
if they turn the horror movie Scream into a TV show.
Oh, the Scream show.
Yeah.
OK.
Yeah.
And I recently had discovered this, and I was like, what is this garbage?
And I was like, you know what?
My curiosity, because like, I didn't like Scream is like my least favorite,
because it's too campy, but that's the appeal.
And you like horror shit.
Yeah, I love horror shit.
I love horror shit a lot.
But like...
You have Jason tattooed on your arm right there.
Don't tell the people that.
That's, that's lewd.
And so it's like, I was like, yeah, well Scream is like a little, like, it's campy,
but I can see the appeal, and it's cute, and it's campy thing,
but not like an actual horror movie.
So I was like, I wonder how there, how MTV is going to turn this,
and it's super campy, and it's so awful that I sat here,
and I was like, it's like a train wreck that I could not stop watching sort of thing.
So I ended up like binge watching, like, an entire season of it this week.
Well, also playing Hearthstone, because all I have time for nowadays is only Hearthstone
and Overwatch, and working on Spooky's HD.
OK.
Confirmed.
Do they attempt to actually make it scary for TV proper, or is it just like fully aware?
It's, so I wouldn't call it proper horror, it's like more mystery.
Like one of my favorite like movies slash books of all time is called The Bone Collector.
Yeah, I know.
And it's super, it's super like some, some parts are a little like, ooh, ooh,
but it's mostly like mystery.
So like more like, leave it to the imagination on how this person may have died,
and all this other stuff with the big details that you were given.
And that's basically like what that showed.
Is that like, there were some moments that I was like, oh, that's gross, but not like,
I wasn't like scared, like jumping out of my seat or anything.
And I was like, that's some cool mystery and a cute little bit of plot twists here and there,
sort of thing.
That seems to be the right way to play it for TV, because I'm thinking of like,
true detective or like Hannibal, you know, and things like that, where like,
that's pretty much what they go for is more like the mystery is what you can do from episode to
episode.
Where I had no Hannibal is just gross.
Like it's grossing you out, but you're not like, but like, like jumpscares are not really
what you're going for on TV.
Yeah.
No, like, well, I mean, of course it does have jump scares every once in a while,
but it's like maybe a jump scare, like once per episode sort of thing.
It doesn't purely rely on just like jump scare, jump scare, jump scare.
It's more like, oh, shit, this like weird spooky thing happened.
And then that's the end of the episode, because you're like, but who was falling?
Who did this?
You know, like, what's going on?
Who's the dude behind the cost, like behind the mask or girl?
Who's the dude or the girl behind the costume?
Like who is like conspiring against these like teens or whatever?
And like, why are they having sex while their friends are getting murdered?
Like, what the shit's happening here?
It's like, everyone needs to be busy, you know.
Fear can make you motivated in ways you didn't expect.
Yeah, I suppose.
Yeah, I guess I guess like the adrenaline is just going to give me a boner.
I get a boner every time I go on a roller coaster.
Gross.
Jake spent the entire weekend on Space Mountain.
We're getting tons of factoids.
I don't know if you guys have actually noticed,
but like when you come into like the street coming down from our building,
you can see Six Flags and Magic Moth.
You can.
Yeah, we did.
We did.
We did.
Yes.
And so it's like, that makes sense.
Like, I was going to say, so you get your kicks.
Is that where you go in the afternoon?
I have to get a boner and go live.
I don't have like a response.
Or a riddler.
Yo, fun factoid.
I'm going to give you a, I'm going to drop you.
Yes, please.
Bam.
If you ever make it out to Six Flags, Magic Mountain.
Go during a busy, populated time.
It's just during the holiday.
Make sure the music is playing on the riddler's ride.
All these criterias are met.
When you say the riddler, is it like just put like at your door?
Yeah, that's the only place it can be going.
There's a ride called, there's a riddler coaster called Riddler's Revenge.
Okay.
And it's Batman branded.
Okay.
Right, right.
They have Superman rides, Batman.
Is it like Jim Carrey riddler?
Is it just generic, like comic book riddler?
It's comic book riddler.
It's meant to be timeless.
The riddler coasters are old.
Well, the Jim Carrey riddler is timeless.
I know it is timeless.
But they went with the comic.
They went with the comic.
They went with the character overall.
Right, the idea.
Because Willy's on a Big Batman Forever kick now.
It's Green Six Flags Magic Mountain.
There's no real branding or anything on the ride.
It's just a green roller coaster.
Sure.
And they play techno music on the waiting queue.
And my dude brought me there one day.
The battle toads dude from before.
Again, this guy's amazing.
He's like, he's found enough knowledge.
Yeah, Pablo.
And then he's like, listen to the music as it loops
because it plays forever.
It repeats.
Listen to the music as it loops.
And then he's coming up.
It's coming up listening.
It's like Ecuador.
Doo, doo, doo.
Doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo.
He's like, here it comes.
Doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo.
See?
Oh, sweet.
This is a tens of millions of dollar ride.
Music is like bad loops.
Somebody got paid for this.
Why are you doing that?
Like, why are you letting that?
Cash out.
Because I ain't shit girl.
I can't make music for rides yet.
I'm still working my way up in that industry.
I want to make a music for a ride someday,
but I want it to be like, you know,
I want it to be like they come to me and are like,
you know, we need you to do music for our ride.
And make sure, and to fit our criteria,
make sure it does not loop right.
No, if the audience can't tell where the loop ends,
they get nervous and it makes them uncomfortable.
They have to be able to hear where the loop starts and ends.
Something has been reset.
I mean, it started to make me call on the question,
the safety of the road.
The safety of the road?
Yeah, yeah.
If the song isn't loop proper,
why should I, how do I know the suit between me and the place?
Absolutely not.
I believe in it.
It's so true.
Is this really a magic mountain?
Yeah, a magic mountain.
That's our magic mountain.
I don't know, man.
It's a sloppy attitude all around, right?
The loop stuff freaks me out too.
Like, it's a small role that fucking Disneyland
makes me like the most anxious that I've ever done.
That's awesome.
Because it loops so perfectly,
that it's like, when did the song stop?
It just gets stuck in my head more than anything.
When we take our flight home in a few hours,
I'm going to be listening to the music that they play
when you start sitting down a little more carefully.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, man.
What it's a small world really is,
is an early and unfair example of interactive music.
Because a positional music, you know, things like,
you know, some games like Portal,
as you're flying through the air,
it's like, yeah, and it's in tune to the music, right?
That's what it's a small world is.
It's like, the music is in sync with each other,
but there's different layers that pop through,
you know, as you, as you go further through.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's just tricky.
And that's like, not okay.
It's brilliant.
It's like, not okay.
It's awesome.
No, it's awesome.
They use their powers for evil.
And made the most cloying song in history.
They did the song that doesn't end.
Yeah.
With Disney magic.
F you guys.
I thought it was cool.
I love Disney.
I hate it, man.
It's a small world is not a fair thing to put on the world.
It's a small world is,
that one in the Lincoln thing,
or just like the worst things,
because it's a good hat, basically.
It's like animatronic noises the entire time.
It's like, no, they don't do that.
If you didn't hear any animatronic noises,
you would just,
What, the small world one?
That's a fucking loopway.
You were just hallucinating with fear.
Like, I'm imagining like,
like Pirates of the Caribbean
and the sounds of the joints turning as they like,
you know what?
Their eyes turn here.
Like, stands up off the ride
and you're like going on,
nerding just drops down
and it's just like, well, fuck.
You know, I'd ride that though,
if they had like a dark Pirates,
kind of freaking, you know,
Pirates of the
Crucifix Caribbean or something like that.
Yeah.
Block that.
You know, and they would have been scary
like an Indiana Jones ride
when they rebooted in 50 years.
Are you retarded?
That's like really scary.
It's like super scary.
That was like legitimate concern and fear.
Just slowly implement more like Cthulhu-esque,
like old, old gods.
Yeah, man.
They can jump the same way there.
Let's make it explicit.
Exactly.
He's merely a spawn of y'all knowing one who sleeps.
All right.
Like you took a right past the boat
and you head to Innsmouth
and then like you just go.
You just keep going.
I would love to go to the HP Lovecraft Disney ride.
Yeah, that'd be great.
But they already have a ride
that makes my sanity erode
and that is the car's ride.
Okay.
It's utterly terrifying
because they have full size animatronic cars
that drive up at you in your face.
Like Maynard comes up and he's like.
Oh, so terrifying
but also powerfully arousing.
He goes to the caravan.
Is this what we're talking about?
The bull that's like a combine, you know,
a harvester.
He's like charges at you and his eyes are red.
He's like steam's coming out of him.
And I'm just like, I just did all,
I did both.
All of it.
All of it.
It's all there.
Yeah.
I don't make sense why it was kind of stinky
and it's like weird.
All three.
I did all three.
I made him lactated.
I made him sweat.
Not confirmed.
Not confirmed.
Not confirmed or denied.
It could have been a little spritz
with more research and more testing.
Pro tips.
Pro tips.
Did you get up to anything else, Sheena?
No.
My life is just work.
Okay.
It just consists of Hearthstone
because I don't want all in Pokemon.
Sorry, Pokemon.
No.
That's about it.
But.
She's got to exist in my presence now
and it kind of like requires adjustment.
Yeah.
Because sometimes you may lactate,
sometimes you may nod.
Right.
And then the thing is, and it happens
at uncomfortable times when we're at the Mexican restaurant
and we're at this delicious Aspiritos.
And then the waiter's just like,
he kind of walks up and he's like,
sir, could you, sir, please?
It's like a super-soaker commercial,
but they've heard of it or shot it.
Liam, please.
You should do that.
No.
Liam, save us.
Save us.
Sorry.
Tell us, tell us about it.
I also got a huge erection this week
when NAK2 was announced.
You did.
You're the only one.
You're back.
You're here.
You went to PSX.
So, this is a fucking packed week for me.
I was in California State,
which is quite a ways from here, I hear.
Last weekend for a PlayStation experience,
I went there with my girlfriend.
And we had a blast there last year,
we had a blast there this year.
Very like a player-focused convention,
lots of setups, a lot less like business
going on on the floor.
Yeah.
That's also not,
that's also like really well organized too.
So, so like there was the press conference,
which was like stacked end to end.
And we gave our impressions lightly on what went down,
but like you were there for it
and got your hands on a bunch of stuff.
Yeah.
So like real quick,
I'm just on the press conference thoughts.
Like I was, when the first thing was
Uncharted Lost Legacy, right?
And like very early into that trailer,
I started joking like to my girlfriend,
but also loudly so people around me could hear.
I was like, this is NAK2, this is NAK2.
I felt pretty good when people started laughing, right?
And then eventually when we got to NAK2,
the guy behind me patting me on the back
and he was like, yeah, you got it, man.
I was like, yeah, I got it, man.
Nice.
But there was a lot of cool stuff in there that I liked.
Uncharted looks really, really cool.
I'm amazed and really happy that Windjammer's is bad.
Good Lord, yes.
Fuckin' awesome.
Really cool.
For real, real, real.
That was one of those games that I had played a lot in the arcade
and then I completely forgot it existed
and while it played Super Dodgeball
and all that type of like shifting.
Action sports games.
Action sports games, right?
And then we played it at Facebook at one time.
Oh yeah, that's right.
Yeah, cancel, yeah.
Yeah, with our friends, we went to the Facebook offices.
This is one of them as a cubicle guy there.
Sure, yeah.
And they have a friggin' Windjammer's cabinet.
That's sick.
No kidding.
Someone knows what to do.
Yeah, free to play just like,
but they also had a cooler community with beers.
Okay, yeah, okay.
That's kind of awesome, actually.
They have an anomaly on Windjammer's cabs.
And there was like something that happened
where like culturally,
like three individual groups of people just said,
we need to bring Windjammer's back
and started making their own Windjammer's like games.
Got that on my list for sure, yeah, yeah.
But like, yeah.
But now Windjammer's is actually coming back for real.
For real, real.
So yeah, Marvel Infinite looks fuckin' awesome.
I haven't gone back to look at the trailers again.
I just got the extremely hype reaction from in the crowd.
Yeah, that one guy that was losing his mind.
Yeah, that was a good pop.
You will never be as excited as Marvel guy.
Yeah.
And like, it was kind of neat.
Like PSX is kind of like cemented itself
as a more like core focused thing.
You know, like two Yakuza's announced.
Somehow East got on the stage.
I guess it was a typo or something.
Like Danganronpa and near like center stage, you know.
So I really dig that.
And then like I actually went into the convention.
So it only opens on Saturday after the event in the morning
because they don't want to spoil you
by like having stuff on the show floor.
Okay.
And I played like a shitload of stuff.
I played this cool fighting game called Fantasy Strike.
Yeah.
Oh, that's not what I, all right.
Yeah.
No, not, no.
Not the one you're thinking.
Not the one you're thinking.
Okay.
Did you talk about this at all?
Fantasy Strike.
I think we talked about it when it was first announced.
Yeah, we talked about it a little bit.
But I mean, basically the guys behind Yomi
are making a fighting game proper.
And this was something I know
that they've been working on for some time.
And it's pretty much just like, you know,
it's another way of introducing people
to advanced mechanics in fighting games
without like shoving it down your throat.
Yeah.
And Divekick was kind of like a,
like a key in game for like people who like fighting games.
Yeah.
Everyone could play it, no problem.
But like it was definitely like really appealing to like FGC people.
Yeah.
Already.
And this is a, this is a lot more like general,
but it is really fucking good.
Another super gameplay focused game I played
was Way of the Passive Fist.
Yeah.
Which is one of the, well,
the combat designer for Guacamelee and Sever.
He, yeah, he's the main guy on it.
And it's a game.
Guacamelee.
It's fucking awesome, that game.
I really do.
It's a guilty pleasure game.
It's really great.
So this game that he's making, it's a 2D beat him up.
But like 80% of your movesets is parries and counters
and, and like dashes and dodges as opposed to punches.
The, like you can punch.
Because it's the way of the pacifist.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The pacifist.
Pacifist.
Oh, you got it.
Oh, oh, oh.
Mind you, not a guilty, I didn't want a disc Guacamelee.
It's not a guilty pleasure because it's, you know, bad.
It's like a guilty pleasure because I'm stalling to play, you know.
It's a great piece.
Yeah.
Procrastinating to it.
But I played that for a little while.
I really dug it.
It's so good.
It's such a good time waster.
The first thing I saw when I got out of the press conference
was actually disc jam.
One of the not win jammers.
Yes.
And the first thing I saw, and this might have been a total coincidence, but.
Okay.
I was wondering if you're going to talk about.
I was trying to hope.
I was hoping.
Win jammers was just announced like 20 minutes ago, maybe 10 minutes ago.
And I come out and I walk past the disc jam booth.
And one of the guys, the devs on disc jam is just his head in his hands
and he's just crouched down like that.
I don't know if it was a coincidence or not, but like.
All like, there's like three different versions.
Win jammers esk games coming out.
And like it seems like a pretty safe market
because win jammers never coming back, right?
Dave Lang was ensuring it would never come back.
Yeah.
And right there are win jammers.
So it might have been a total coincidence,
but he looked pretty bummed right then and there.
He, you know, they all seem pretty happy throughout the rest.
All you got to do is make a better game than win jammers.
And they have a better game than win jammers.
Honestly, like.
Which one?
Disc jam.
Okay.
Which is the only one I've played of the not win jammers win jammers game.
Okay.
And the long running series of not win jammers.
Because there's also flying power disc.
Yeah.
It's probably a crowded market.
There's room for multiple players and let the best win jammers like.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
So I did make platforms all the time when I win jammers.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, for sure.
Let it be the new roguelike.
Let's have win jammers.
Win jammers, jammers.
Yeah.
Every game now.
Win jam.
The new Final Fantasy has just got like suddenly,
it's like a new crapton.
Final Fantasy 16 is just win jam.
A little bit of, a little bit of like frisbee play in there.
Yeah, yeah.
It's crafting.
It's open world exploration.
It's got win jamming.
Survival.
All the bullet points you expect from Final Fantasy.
Absolutely.
Yeah, you know.
But I played it and like it's very evident that they've had
like many years to iterate on win jammers core concept.
You know, like nobody's fucking touched it.
So it's like, it's not hard to look at win jammers and say,
well, this could improve and this can improve and this can improve.
So like they, they have a better game than win jammers on their hands.
It's hard to fight the art.
But it's, but it's.
Art can win jammers.
The problem that win jammers doesn't mean anything to me anymore.
Because you've said it.
In disc jam?
Yeah.
I couldn't really hear it over the crowd.
But it's there.
All right.
As soon as so.
Open call to disc jammers team.
If you're out there listening, bless your soul.
Thank you for bringing this balancing into the world.
I'm so happy that it exists, but we could save you.
I don't, I don't know if your music is good or bad,
but if it's, if you're using stop royalty free,
if you already got a composer,
look to them and consult them.
I'll give them tips and techniques or listen to their stuff and critique it.
I don't care.
I just want to make sure you guys are set in the music department.
Like that, that is like the sickest thing to get.
Anyway, I, wow.
Well, do music for you if you needed.
Dude, are you listening, bro?
Do you understand what is happening right now?
Die with head in hands.
Are you listening, bro?
Dry those tears.
If you hang around me enough, you'll know that I do this a lot.
And that's how I get a trophy.
Cause like a lot of people take me up in the offer and they're like,
and now I have 10 things to do.
But luckily I have a team now.
So gone.
Embarrassment of riches.
The same song every year.
Each one.
Yeah.
I played a absolver.
Absolver.
Right.
Oh, okay.
Oh, okay.
In melee combat game.
Devulver fighter.
Yeah.
So they only had the single player available at the show.
That's supposed to be multiplayer focused.
And like, it was like a little tutorial area.
It was very Dark Souls-esque.
Very Dark Souls-esque.
L3 to lock on.
Yep.
Really enjoyable.
Lots of lots of defensive ideas and concepts.
So like one of the character classes lets you like parry in different directions.
Kind of.
Yep.
One of them lets you like dodge by ducking and jumping and stuff like that.
So it's, it's, it's got a real good feel to it.
I played snake pass.
Yes.
Like snake rattle and roll looking very rare.
Are you guys know this game?
Is it isometric?
It's, it's, it's like a 3D.
No, it's like a, it's a third person camera.
And you're following a snake is your character.
It's by Sumo Digital.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But it doesn't, it doesn't actually really play like snake rattle.
It's just kind of like familiar.
That snake version of that.
But the snake looks like he's having such a good time.
There's a button on the controller to change his mood.
Oh, that's great.
He's such a happy snake man.
So you play as a snake, right?
And it's, it's quite physics-based.
And you hold a button to like raise your snake's head and climb.
And you hold X to like coil tighter.
And basically like, there's these like structures all over these like small open areas.
Like think like Banjo-Kazooie levels or Mario 64 levels, not as big,
but that kind of thing where you've got a couple of jiggies or a couple of stars, right?
And you have to like climb and navigate your way through the level.
Where can I buy it immediately?
You can.
But, but 2017 is coming.
2017.
Oh, is it lacking in what we could do?
No, it's just coming.
It's just coming.
It's just coming.
Sumo Digital.
Sonic 3, the Sonic Racing games.
Yeah.
Those guys have been trucking and I've talked to one of them.
I'm happy that they're getting to do their own original thing now.
Dope, dope, dope.
They gave me a little rubber snake for playing too.
That was a bonus, you know.
Is it a coral snake or a king snake?
I grew up in Florida.
It was a rubber snake.
I was supposed to run a shark.
It's red and yellow.
You're not going to die.
It's red and yellow.
You're okay, fellow.
Red and yellow.
You're okay, fellow.
Yeah.
And then the yellow and black, you're dead, Jack.
That also grew up there.
So yeah.
Okay, see, I wasn't lying about that.
That's the thing you've got to learn from Florida.
People let you graduate unless you don't.
That's snake mnemonics, okay.
We come up with scorpions where you're just like,
you see that thing?
You just fucking run.
We didn't have it in time.
One snake tries to emulate the pattern of the poisonous one to front.
Yeah.
Right.
To be like,
fake it so you make it.
Yeah, exactly.
It's like the trials when you're in Florida,
you're in high school.
You just have to pick,
you have to pick one of the snakes and grab it.
And if you're dead, that's it.
That's it.
It's not how you graduate in high school.
You become a Florida man.
I was just thinking Florida, man.
Look at that.
That's so weird.
Yeah.
I was thinking that that's the spray painted phase with the blue.
I really wanted to play Ace Combat 7,
but it was one of the longest lines in the show.
Wait, what?
Yeah.
What?
The seventh Ace Combat game.
What?
Yeah, yeah.
Are you kidding me?
Much more in line with the earlier Ace Combat games, too.
No, that's fair.
I don't want to play like testicle though.
It's in VR, too.
It's really cool.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's the nth one, they only had four setups
at the Namco booth, so I don't really get to play it.
And everyone who came off of it was like,
fuck, man, that game's legit.
Well, Uli's eyes will glaze over the visuals of Ace Combat
and be like, sure, but his ears will twinge.
Yeah.
Oh, Ace Combat music.
It's insane.
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
Guys, here's where I get to tell you
my ultra secret plan for the future of the game.
The F plan.
Once we have a studio here, I'm going
to make a parody Ace Combat game.
I've told people about this on the YouTube.
I want to make like the super trooper slash airplane
of Ace Combat.
Sure.
I want to make a constant spoof game that's just
hilarious and chaotic.
Yeah.
And it's set in that like melodramatic.
Do it.
The ultra symphonic middle.
I want to write that stuff and nobody's going to hire me
for that.
No, no.
You got to hire yourself, man.
I got to make my whole own Ace Combat game.
That makes sense.
If you make enough MP3s, eventually it'll be a game.
Oh my god.
That's honestly, if I make the whole soundtrack,
I could probably convince somebody on Twitter
or something to just make a game for it.
Like, I want to make.
You should make a 10 on 10 soundtrack.
Have a game jam where I give you the soundtrack
and you make a game for it.
Yeah.
Hey.
That'd be fun.
That'd be a good good game down.
I want to make more.
Just thinking about it.
I want to make more shows on YouTube
to use their music more just to get it out there.
And the last game I'm going to talk about is Farpoint,
which I played, which is like one of Sony's big VR games
right now.
It's the one where you have that gun controller, right?
Yes.
And you move around with a little stick on the gun
controller, which I felt would be a little disorienting,
because artificial locomotion and shit.
But the gun really serves to root you in the world really,
really well.
And it's kind of similar to being,
even though you're not in a cockpit,
it gives you a similar sensation of that groundedness
of a cockpit or a cage around you or whatever,
and really keeps you from feeling ill or sick.
You basically got your hands.
Comfort settings, if you would.
Yeah.
It's more or less the same as in, say,
like Job Simulator or Batman, where your hands make it work.
The gun makes it work in this case,
because you have this nice gun.
You can point in the direction you want to go, right?
Yeah.
You look where you want to go, and moving the stick
moves you in the direction you're in.
Right.
So as long as you have a friend on the ground here as well.
It works quite well.
And the gun really grounds you.
And I put the gun out of screen, and I pushed forward
on the stick, and it felt like it feels in VR.
But then the moment I put the gun back in,
it really helped to ground it.
It was really interesting, actually.
Maybe it sort of pulls your brain down
to think it's like a turret or something?
Well, because it felt just like a cockpit.
Which works, because you feel like you're in that kind of.
Like it works.
Well, it's interesting, because I was reading about,
because I do get motion sickness from some VR games,
and I was reading about tips and things like that.
And one of the things is having a focal point
that you look at while you're moving that is not the background
will help ground you.
And when playing Eagle Flight, they actually
implement that into a way where there's certain leaves.
Leaves will stay on screen as you move forward really quickly,
so that you can look at the leaf instead
of the moving background.
And the eagle has a beak that you can see.
That you can focus on as well to keep you from feeling
the motion sickness at maximum impact.
Yeah, because the motion sickness thing, because we're
making it in unity, and then having VR support for Vive
and Oculus.
So I'm trying to find that kind of middle ground
with those so that the motion sickness,
like locomotion kind of thing, is like, yeah.
It just like, so it's really interesting to me,
because you get an item later on that would
probably help to ground you, but in that beginning phase
is going to be like, it's just like interesting,
like hearing what PlayStation has been doing to try
and fix that motion sickness kind of thing.
You should check out, it's like, shit, what do I do?
You should check out Robinson the Journey and Resident Evil 7,
the demo supports VR now, because those games are,
like it's artificial locomotion with a stick, right?
And Resident Evil 7, in particular,
doesn't have any HUD element.
Like it doesn't have hands or a cage or anything like that.
You're just walking, but their acceleration rate
is just, it's a million percent of that.
Well, the rest of the VR demo does have hands.
Oh, when you interact with stuff.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But not when you're not interacting with stuff,
like just walking around, you don't have anything.
Yeah.
The interesting thing you told me about Farpoint
was that about aiming down the sights.
Yeah, I was going to get to that.
That's super cool.
So aiming down the sights in Farpoint,
because of course it's two cameras rendering, right?
It actually feels just like aiming a gun,
because you have to put it up to your dominant eye
and close your other eye.
Like it is just like aiming down a real...
Sounds awesome, man.
And it worked really well.
I was able to aim, like I shoot guns every now and again
when I go up to my dad's place,
and like my brother and I like to shoot targets
with our like air rifles as well.
We don't waste bullets on target shooting, but...
And like it felt like that,
except I didn't have to give a shit
about who I was aiming at, right?
And I was able to aim really, really well
from the beginning,
and I watched my girlfriend play right after,
and she was aiming...
Like just when we streamed PSVR,
Matt picked up Until Dawn Rush of Blood
without ever playing it,
and he was able to aim with startling accuracy.
No problem.
Yeah, you point...
You're shocking for me.
Really, really accurately.
I openly give I'd say.
And like my girlfriend who's barely fired a thing
was able to aim really accurately too,
and she was kind of like aiming more from the hip,
kind of like she wasn't really looking,
but the sight actually worked.
Like it was actually...
It fucking worked.
It was really, really cool.
Felt really, really nice.
And I mean like I do think
it's one of those things where like,
maybe the game won't hold up five to ten years from now,
but as like the first time I've tried a game like that
with like cool gun sight actually working
and stuff like that,
it was really fun and really neat.
And I'm keen to play the full release.
I heard from the dev who was on site,
I was asking him like have people gotten sick?
Like what, like is your locomotion like solution adequate?
And he said, yeah, we feel pretty comfortable about that,
but we've had multiple people at the con
quit when they get to the cliff sides,
because it's too steep and people are getting vertigo
and getting terrified of it.
Yeah, exactly.
So he said people, when they were testing the demo,
people were quitting at that section.
And so they implemented a thing
where in each section of the demo,
if you stood still for too long,
they would just push you to the,
they would warp you to the next section.
So you wouldn't like just leave the demo halfway
and you'd get like close to the full 15 minute experience.
Okay, okay.
Which was pretty smart.
He said, he said that wouldn't be in the full game,
but that was just like,
so that you get nervous standing at the edge of the cliff.
Yeah, exactly.
And he said that, he said there was a few people who went,
who took off the headset and they said,
no, no, put it back on, put it back on.
It's gonna, it's gonna skip you.
And they were like, no, it's too scary.
And there were also some people who immediately quit,
even though the line was really long,
they immediately quit as soon as the spider enemies
started getting up in their face.
Yeah, that's me.
There are small spider enemies that just leap at your face.
Well, and you better, you better.
Now we have.
Don't be swiggies in VR then.
You know, now.
I already have a plan for all that kind of guy.
Now we have a problem.
Did you ever play?
I will never play Farpoint.
You gotta try, it's possible.
Did you ever play Until Dawn and Rush of Blood?
Yeah.
The VR, yeah.
Yeah, the VR thing, yeah.
Because they have that spider,
that they have that spider, spider level.
Do you remember the bit where they made,
that where they make you like,
crouch under the solid blades
and the spiders crawl over the front of that?
Yeah, that was so good.
That was a good jump.
That was like, that's such an unfair jump, I know that.
Yeah, high jump, yeah.
That was really good.
And then like after PSX, I went back to Montreal
and two days later, back out to California.
Yeah.
I took the exact same flight backwards.
You've had enough of this.
Yeah, no, I love it.
I can't get enough of you, it's amazing.
Oh, thank you.
Oh, I'll be back in like two years or something.
Just journey out and like, you know,
crash our place for a while.
Yeah, sure.
But I guess we may as well talk about it.
We came out here to go to Amazon Game Studios.
Yeah.
Right out there.
And we streamed their upcoming game, Breakaway.
Breakaway.
Mm-hmm.
Which is like a...
We fought some...
All kinds.
Borts.
Buddy, some team...
Hey, video games or something.
Hey, video games.
Hey, tabletops.
Yeah, yeah.
Those guys.
I think we closed out.
It was like four million rounds to five or two.
I think it was one.
We're still winning right now.
Yeah.
Is what's happening.
Our after images are still in the studio
destroying your video games.
I think that stream is gonna go up at some point
when we get back home.
We're still here.
We're still here?
That's the only reason why it's not there.
You know, I'm gonna be frank.
We talked about Breakaway a bit when it was first revealed
and I was kind of not really impressed.
I was a little cool on it too.
Mostly because not per the gameplay.
I thought like that looks kind of interesting.
Not for me, but it's cool.
Not for me, but it looks cool in the sense that
that's at least a bit more unique
than things that are coming out recently.
But it was more cool on the character designs
where I'm like, yeah, it's some Overwatch characters here
and there, especially the Black Knight.
But when I actually started playing it,
and we had a lot of downtime when we were
fooling around with it, and you got to do taunts
and you got to hear a lot of voice clips.
And I started to warm up to the characters
where it's like, okay, you're Spartacus.
You're a Roman Gladiator style knight or whatever,
which has been done in at least a couple of games.
You can build sick jumps.
Yeah, sick jumps.
You can build ramps.
Big ramps.
Just like the Spartacus.
But when I started listening to some of his voice clips
and really looking at the character design,
I'm like, actually, that's a pretty sharp design.
And his voice, I like his voice.
And the Black Knight is like,
he's actually the opposite of Reinhardt,
where he's like this bloodthirsty asshole
that's going nuts and like, I'll kill you all.
Whereas Reinhardt is like, come my friends.
Yeah, it's made by Double Helix, so those guys are good.
They're good at characterization.
And then the game itself was fun when we played it.
Man, I'm like, I really, I thought it was solid.
It really clicked for me when we realized that there's a kind
of a duck button in this game.
And because it's basically a feel, like a football feel,
score on the other team's side.
But you can also fight, like do combos
and use special moves or cooldowns.
And when you duck and you're going down a ramp,
the characters slide down the ramp really fast.
And you can jump out of that and cross.
The game momentum as they continue to slide.
Yeah.
And there's a real good sense of locomotion
that I either didn't notice when the game was revealed,
when I watched the match and matches.
And I was just like, well, that's really cool.
Combat has like footsies to it.
Knockdowns is a whole set up there.
So yeah, that was a really...
We played like a full three and a bit hours,
maybe even four, because we were there before the stream started.
Yeah, three to six thirty.
It was the stream.
Yeah, yeah.
So it was like quite a bit.
And it was, it was actually really, really enjoyable.
Shout out.
That's the filthy rich man.
Thanks, dude.
Discretion, we were not paid to play it.
No, we're not really good time with it.
No, not at all.
And the only thing we got, sorry,
the only thing we got paid for was the pleasure
of destroying your video games.
Yes, exactly.
The more we lie, the better we feel.
Yeah, I know exactly.
So that was the only payment.
That's the payment we deserved.
And the only other thing...
I did this this week of significance
was accused SNK of not having balls.
Yes, thank you.
Oh, because, because...
You guys hear this.
They just take Shinkiro and they say,
hey, redo this other artist.
Like this artist designed all these Sam's Show characters.
That's cool.
But where'd you get Shinkiro to draw
fucking hell?
I don't want the thing.
Instead of letting this other artist have a chance.
Liam and I can sit and go back and forth
on the art in SNK games forever.
To the point that we actually...
The art's amazing, by the way.
Shinkiro's an amazing artist.
To the point that we actually did
and almost like missed our plane,
because we were sitting there,
our last people that didn't board,
arguing about King of Fighters art.
We were too late to getting on the plane.
Because Samurai Showdown had to be discussed.
Like, just to back up a bit,
it was like we were about 10 feet away from our game.
We were so close to it.
I went to go get some food or get whatever.
And I come back and I look and I see that the gate
has like a huge line up of people.
I'm like, ah, that's like at least like 10 minutes
of more waiting.
So I sit down and these guys are talking
about SNK versus Katcom.
And we go, well, they had balls
because they did this with their cover
and they put that over there.
And I was like, uh-huh, uh-huh.
And I started talking a bit too.
And I look back and I see like the line is there.
And then I just started talking to them a bit more
about SNK versus Katcom and the art department
and I look and I'm like, oh, there's no one left
at the gate.
And I go, hey, guys, wait.
And they're like, what?
Matt, we're busy.
And I'm like, I think we're late or something.
You gotta be like, well, I'm getting on the plane,
I guess.
And they're like, yeah, I guess we should do that.
And I was like, oh, no, wait, we're 20 minutes late.
What the fuck are we doing?
Like we were the last people on the plane.
Almost missed it because of our stupidness.
And we were like, like you said, 10 feet from the gate.
Yeah, we couldn't have missed it.
Really sad.
Yeah.
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Jake.
Did you have seven days that occurred in your life?
So.
That you want to mention?
Let's, let's just get to go.
Closing his eyes and thinking.
First was I played some fours of three, and then I went
into Planet Coaster, downloaded a copy of I'm Not Kidding,
The Ruler's Revenge.
I attempted to figure out how to get music into it,
because of the background.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because they didn't have the, they didn't sample it,
of course.
You know, I had to recreate that, that track.
I may not be able to get the loop just right,
so I'll have to go there and record it,
and put it in there.
Anyway, that was my, so I did that for 20 minutes.
And then I slept and came back to work every single day
to do an entire Shovel Knight song,
NES version of, you know, an official track for Shovel Knight.
On stream live from start to finish, from initial idea to,
I'm pretty much like semi-finalist draft-ish,
ready of this, you know?
Like pre-mastering.
Well, no, no, it's pre, it's pre-polish.
Like, I need to go over it again and have a pass,
and just smooth out transitions, and just get like,
things that I forgot to set off, I gotta set them off and on,
and make sure all the, you know,
Peezer dotted and Q's are crossed.
Yeah, so that is, that is correct.
Peezer, I'd, so yeah, so,
so I'm doing that in front of an audience every weekday
for the foreseeable future until I get it.
And that is at my brand new family, Twitch.tv slash Mint Potion.
Mint Potion.
And Mint Potion is the studio that we're in right now
that we're recording this in.
Right now.
Right now.
So we are at Mint Potion Studios, yeah, yeah.
But we're not streaming right now.
We stream, and we stream throughout the week though,
and it's pretty much just like,
we turn the cameras on while we do a workday.
But we're jerk-offs.
We just like, dick around all day.
So we have fun, we play games, we talk, we chill.
I have like, philosophy moments with Ben.
You know, we just like chill.
And we show that the process is one of,
sort of, it's one of living and not just working.
I can't sit there and focus on shoveling that music all eight hours.
It goes to drive you crazy after a while.
Yeah, it drives me crazy enough when I work on it.
I need to like, it's like screw it.
You gotta just surface every now and then.
You can only go down, you can only hold your breath
still long, basically.
Dickery happens on stream and great music comes out.
Dickery happens, and it's the best audience
I've ever seen on this witch stream.
And I'm not saying they're bad.
You know, I've seen some really good
Twitch audiences, you know, really supportive people.
But our community is building up,
they're all people who are making stuff,
who are interested in seeing the process.
And seeing it demystified a little bit.
Yeah, yeah, demystified, right.
I'm not as good about this as when I get
deep into the zone and I'm just in Jewish rick mode.
Okay.
But when I'm super focused, I don't talk enough,
but when I'm sort of just working on the track
and it's coming together,
I'll try to explain exactly what I'm doing and why,
and people will start to see the fades,
like how I do a volume fade.
So it's like, instead of, you could, you know,
you want to have a wrap up.
Right.
You do that with a series of numbers
placed vertically and a spreadsheet.
And so if you watch me do that enough,
you start to see how routine it is,
how simple it is,
and how often I fuck it up dramatically.
Despite this being my like, you know,
professional job and I'm like this respected guy.
Dude, I'm a clumsy asshole all day while I'm working,
but I have fun doing it and I enjoy it
and there's passion in it.
So like, I figure turn the cameras on,
let's get people who are insecure
or afraid of a failure and, you know,
to see somebody who knows what they're doing,
but has no freaking idea what you're doing,
you know, failing their way through,
faking until they make it.
The, this is saying that like we use on our channel,
it's exposing your balls live on stream.
Everyone sees them and you're like,
oh no, like there's nothing to hide anymore.
Because the current is pulled back a little bit.
Yeah, yeah.
People can see exactly how I compose music.
They know what the thought process is in doing it.
They can watch me go,
just kind of like think for a minute,
as I'm playing the music back in my head,
trying to debug it before committing it to,
you know, the spreadsheet.
Because it takes a lot of work to program that stuff.
So I want to try to pre-visualize it,
audiate it in order to get the idea
crystallized before I even start.
So you get to watch that whole
incredibly cringy, awkward process happen every single day.
Like this is my job, this is what it,
I write the soundtrack and I do it every day.
And then you can watch just how not mystical it is.
You're just chiseling away at a thing
and adding little details here and there
and a happy little tree.
I'm not trying to compare myself to Bob Ross
because he actually talked enough while he was working.
Right.
I'm sitting here grunting and being like,
no, if you don't get down there,
you're not supposed to be that quiet.
Move up more, more volume right now.
Speaking of Bob Ross,
because I mentioned to you how the thing I'm most familiar with,
since we know a bunch of artist friends like Mothman
and Star Exorcist that stream drawing,
I never, it's only really, like it totally makes sense,
but it's only until you mention it,
where I'm like, yeah,
why wouldn't people stream themselves making music too?
Oh, that's the category, absolutely.
Yeah, I didn't realize that it was until just now,
but it makes total sense.
I just never thought about it
because I don't know that many people,
but yeah, I guess it's not big enough
because Star will draw things and everyone will go,
oh, you're so talented, I love your drawing style,
I love whatever.
And yeah, she'll make a mistake too,
or go, no, I don't want to do that,
or I'm going to get rid of all of this now
and start over again and stuff.
And yeah, it's exactly what you said,
demystifies the process so people can see
that it's not a perfect drawing.
It's not like those images you'll see
where it's like what people think art is,
like duh, duh, finished, you know?
It's a much more long involved process
than most people think.
They can hear the break in your loop on your song.
And all the magic falls apart.
I got a couple of bum loops in a couple of shipped games
that I'm not even sure if people have picked out.
I think one of them somebody's caught,
but one of them we fixed in a couple,
they're just, they're on a cartridge now, that's...
Okay, well, let them find it, fuck them.
Oh yeah, one of the themes.
And one of the themes is actually poor weird.
I didn't prepare that myself at all,
and I'm not going to point fingers at anyone who did
because I have no idea.
So that's what happens when you don't have
an autistic robot pervert hanging out in your office,
like making sure your audience has one point five.
Whatever.
Well, now they're going to find it.
Taking shots.
Now they're going to go take it.
And now they're on the prowl.
Oh yeah.
I already found it.
There it is.
We're using it for the outro of the podcast today, yeah.
Well, we're only going to use it
where it doesn't look like it.
In addition to all of that,
I also have to score a cartoon every week.
I'm on the hook until the end of next year.
It's a full season cartoon.
And I can't say what it is yet.
I can't talk about it.
It hasn't been announced yet.
Well, it's coming.
But it's big.
It's coming.
It's already a production.
It's coming and it's awesome.
I'm not biased or anything.
It's...
I'm not.
I get to write funk music, but...
And here's the best part.
This is a big client.
And they are okay with me streaming their music.
As long as I don't show the show ahead of time.
That is for, yeah.
Or show the dialogue.
So I got to listen to the dialogue
in my little DJ headphones and be like,
all right, that's what they're saying in that episode.
Awesome.
And then...
But I can show the music process on the streaming.
That's super chill.
Live instrument is we got a drum kit right behind you.
So we can record all kinds of live whatever in here.
And we're going to start streaming that,
like next to shoveling it in a block.
Back to back sequence, you know?
Pretty much every day.
It's awesome.
That's what we got to do to make our stuff.
And it's...
At this point, after streaming enough and testing it,
there's enough...
There's little enough overhead, technically,
that we can just turn on the stream.
It's fine.
Yeah.
We've got shitty graphics, but we work really hard on them.
And everyone's put in a ton of effort
just to get to that point.
And that's what counts, really.
But we can iterate it on the stream.
We can work on the graphics.
Like, in the After Effects.
You can watch.
We can watch you guys streaming
and improving the stream live.
Yeah.
We're making new stream borders.
That's how we do it.
Not really.
Yeah, that's not...
That's the core concept of the...
Something that we've done.
Yeah.
We want to make stuff...
We want to make the show on the show.
Well, it's honestly like the fact that they didn't have to...
It's a disruptive reality show.
Yeah, it's cool.
The fact that you didn't have to, like,
NDA, like, this project or anything like that
to the point where you can't even stream that stuff.
Like, that's a really cool liberty that
you got on those projects.
Like, that's awesome, man.
Because the people in charge...
The people that I'm working with are...
They're really hip and they're with...
With it, with the, you know, with...
Out of the internet works.
And they understand that people hype over stuff like this.
They don't...
They don't...
They don't, like, spoilery.
It's not a bad...
It's not like intellectual property being, you know,
tarnished.
It's like a cool fan outreach thing that you can do
and build hype for the whole thing.
So tune in and you just hear, like...
Just read to them, please.
You hear, like, just Star Wars music getting composed.
Like, wait, what?
Yeah, yeah, there's gonna be...
It's all over the place.
I can't say anything about the show.
Absolutely not.
But it's all over the place, story-wise.
And so I have to write...
I have to write all kinds of orchestra
and I gotta write electronic stuff.
I had to write vaporwave last week.
Okay.
It's all over the map.
There's all kinds of crazy stuff out there.
You're like a scottrack at one point.
I'm in...
Yeah, scottrack.
There's...
It uses my weird video gamey stylistic sound
where you can tell it's midi,
but, you know, there's, like, a heart in it, you know?
It's like, you're cool with it,
even if you can kind of tell it's, like, a little off somehow.
And fake, you know?
But it's, like, real.
It's, like, played, right?
And so that's the overarching style.
And I'm trying to just make it as funky as humanly possible.
Okay.
I'm just trying to make it super ultra-funky.
The funkiest cartoon music since the 70s.
Yeah, no, appeal to the gods, man.
That's it.
I don't know if I can get there,
but we're trying every...
You know, we're gonna be doing it every single day.
So, like, I've been working on the streams.
I've been doing Shovel Knight music,
doing the cartoon, doing all kinds of, like,
ridiculous music stuff all at once.
And somehow, amazingly, I'm not dead now.
Like, my team is keeping me sane.
Congrats for that.
They're keeping a lid on it.
They're making sure that I go home.
They kick me out of the office every now and then.
They're just like, Jake, go home.
I'm like, yeah.
What?
But I heard you slept in this weird attic in the office.
I was thinking, because I wanted an inversion table for my back.
So I'm thinking, maybe I could just build a coffin
that hangs upside down.
There we go.
You're hearing it at the pitch again.
It's plausible.
Man, this ding system, in his office,
totally sucks sleeping in there.
Because, like, you know, it's just, like...
Laser.
Yeah, yeah, it's, like, super annoying,
like, working on, like, spookies
and trying to get all this VR shit done.
Like, I sometimes, I crash on the couches,
like, here in the office.
And then, so, every once in a while,
I'll just hear the laser start to turn and just go,
like, I want to say, 11 in the morning,
when we're not live, it's just somebody
just wanted to fuck with somebody in the office
and hopes that somebody was, like, around.
Well, it was me, and I was sitting on the couch,
and I was waking pissed off.
It was someone who watches us, like, every day.
I was wondering if it was you
just trying to troll me to wake my ass up,
or if that was, like, so...
I don't believe you.
For someone who gets so little sleep,
I respect it in others.
Anyway.
And it's happened more than once, too.
It's, like, in a pure dark room, like...
It's fucking green.
And then you just hear these flashing lights
and stuff like that, and you're like,
what the hell?
But what if this was a fan of ours
who is actually, like, watching us every day
and wanted to just say,
Jake, you're probably working real late.
Here's some support.
You made it really early, because it was 11 AM.
Yeah, but it's, like, cheering you on.
I'm probably still working, so here's some love, you know.
Handing the internet the key
to, like, allowing them to just fuck your shit up.
24 hours a day.
It's great. I love it.
No, it's a hot, dry fucking sleep.
Wait till there's science in this room.
There's gonna be a dingbox in every room.
This is the recording room.
Yeah, who cares?
This is a sound booth or whatever it's called.
Why would you do that?
We're always innovating.
Keeps you on your toes, man.
No, there is an off-button,
in case we need to, like, record some, like,
high-speed flight stand or something.
Yeah, okay.
We're not gonna ding the board, girl.
You know, don't worry about it.
Like, for sure, we have an off-button,
but it's gonna be on most of the time,
especially on streams.
They can cause it to happen live on the camera.
Of course.
Directly.
See the results in, like, 10 seconds.
If we ever get partnered, we'll be like,
pretty close to it instead of like,
you know, aren't you?
Yeah, half the time.
There's still a little latency,
but it's more or less right away.
It happens instantly in our office
as soon as they hit a remote leak.
So.
Cool.
Circle.mintpotion.com.
F with us all day long.
There you go.
That's a good logo.
You like it.
You like it.
It doesn't distract me.
It chews me on.
Because it knows, it lets you,
it reminds me that there's people out there
that can shut up.
Yeah, I know.
It's like, hey, dude,
I hope you're doing okay.
There you go.
You can just put some lasers in your fucking face.
I told you not to do that in people's eyes,
Jake.
Just invaders himself.
Just right in the people.
Just right in the face.
Reflects off like a pen or something.
It's specifically designed to cause yourself pain.
And then I discover my Daredevil powers,
and I'm just like, oh shit.
There you go.
It's great to self discover Daredevil powers,
because a lot of people have them,
but they just don't know.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
You have to blind yourselves to find out, kids.
Did you discover any Daredevil powers?
Daredevil powers?
Oh, yes.
Well, let's...
Yes, I did.
In fact.
Yeah.
Let me play for that mouse.
Probably treasure.
Maybe not Daredevil powers,
but I read a couple of comments on the way over to LA.
I finished off Moon Knights,
and that's not really Daredevil powers.
That's like just crazy bipolar powers
where you see and talk to people that don't exist.
And in Moon Knight's case,
it's Spider-Man, Captain America, and Wolverine.
That book is great,
and I talked about starting it last time a bit,
and it ends really strong.
No spoiler, but there's a point
where those three characters
that are imaginary personalities in Moon Knight's head...
They're all just parts of Moon Knight.
Yeah.
But then they show up,
and he doesn't know who he's looking at,
and he's like, oh, fuck.
Because he knows he's crazy,
but he doesn't know which is which at one point,
and it's a really trippy entertaining read.
Yeah.
Poor Moon Knight.
He's a great hero,
but he's nuts, and he knows it.
He's not a great hero.
Like, he's a great creation,
but is he a great hero?
He's a successful hero.
Oh, okay.
There's a key to it.
He does save the day, you know.
Let's get it done.
There is a unique mental configuration.
And it's entertaining in a way that it's...
Is that an inspiring tale?
Yeah.
It's not quite the Deadpool approach.
It's like a bit more grounded, I guess,
but like, it's fun.
It's totally fun.
I read Captain Marvel and Miss Marvel,
and the new Miss Marvel being Kamala Khan
and Captain Marvel, of course, Carol Denver's.
Those two books were pretty fun reads.
I like...
Because at Liam's recommendation, actually,
on both of them,
I ended up liking Captain Marvel a bit more.
I feel like the pain...
Like, I like her attitude and tone,
and just the fun go up to space with Alpha Flight,
these Canadian X-Men type of thing,
and just, you know,
punch rocks for a while and defend Earth.
It's just good old space adventure.
And I had a really good time with that.
The Kamala Khan origin story of, like,
you know, the new Miss Marvel Pakistani 16-year-old
from New York is like...
Yeah.
Yeah, it's like, it's a really fun time watching...
From Jersey.
Excuse me, from Jersey.
Jersey, sorry.
Jersey.
My people.
It's a fun time seeing her just kind of deal with that,
and like, really, really strict parents
that are just like,
what the fuck do you think you're doing?
Like, going outside and whatnot.
And I feel like it was a similar approach
to how New Black Spider-Man,
as you like to say it,
Miles Morales sort of dealt with his powers,
and I like what they did.
I think that Miles Morales had a bit more
of an entertaining spin on it.
I liked kind of his high school struggle a bit more
in that way.
I don't know how to sort of put it.
The villain is the main problem, I guess.
The villain they introduced right away in her arc is...
Yeah, the inventor.
The inventor.
He kind of is just a cockatiel guy
that just doesn't do much.
Cockatiel, yeah.
And he just shows up, kidnaps kids,
and there's a whole message of like,
millennials aren't useless, we can fight back too.
Well, like me and Matt said,
he's there and then he's gone.
And it gets better, you say.
He's already gone for you.
Well, in the second volume...
That's the second volume he's gone.
The second volume, not to say,
but she immediately joins up
with a very well-known hero.
Well, Wolverine shows up in the first one.
So, I mean, there's...
There's one I can watch the second one.
You're reading The Hardcover,
which was the first two volume.
The first two.
Oh, okay.
Oh, okay.
I wasn't aware.
All right.
So, yeah.
Then you've gotten that to that point.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The inventor is just gone gone now.
Yeah.
And like, there's like seven or eight volumes out, so...
Cool.
Because I've read both...
The metric as to how long the inventor is around.
Because I've read The New Captain Marvel
and Miss Marvel as well.
And I like both kind of equally.
The only thing is that like, Kamala Khan,
like, I just...
You have stretchy big hands.
It's a weird power.
It's not my favorite power.
Yeah.
I'm not asking for her to have...
How many things do I do with stretchy big hands?
There is, but it's like...
Versus a base solo.
I'm not asking for her to shoot like,
psychic knives out of guns.
Like, I don't need an edgler power,
but like, it's just so goofy.
And I...
It's like, it's the Mr. Fantastic problem
of like, you're cooler than your power.
Right, right.
You know?
Sorry, as you mentioned that,
and you're talking about like,
funk music, I'm just like,
slap bass where your palm just covers the entire theme.
It's like, I can breastbeard in World Heroes.
Yeah!
While playing.
Fantastic slap solo.
That would be sick.
You're right, though.
It is a weird power.
And it's Mr. Fantastic-y, you know, in that way.
Well, he has a power to stretch.
She has the power to like,
change her body, however she wants.
She embiggens, right?
She can change her face.
She can change her, like, everything, yeah.
But, no, I feel like Captain Marvel is just like,
it's the, it's the,
I'm good, that's the one I'm going to come back to.
And, you know, that's the one that's going to be a movie soon,
I guess, so people will soon care.
I believe, you know.
Probably both going to be, honestly.
But, it is, it is.
It's not.
No, it's a TV show, actually.
It's a TV show.
It's not a movie anymore.
Yeah, they change it.
It's going to be a TV show.
Although Miss Marvel is still its own,
like she's a little bit of both and neither kind of thing.
Just a little bit above that.
A bit random, and this is just going to,
I'm going to make a controversial statement.
Re-watch The Shining this weekend.
That's a good movie.
Yeah.
I know, right?
Flipping tables right now.
It's just actually, no, it's just,
it's something where it's like, it's been a few years,
and I just kind of like, just sat in awe.
Like, god damn, the cinematography is like, unbelievable.
Like, yeah.
Over and over.
No, I, like, I really, I wasn't sure,
but I'm like, this is probably just re-watching and kind of
looking at it again with fresh eyes after a while.
I'm like, no, this is probably top five for me.
Like, I absolutely adore that movie.
Everyone in it is so good, too.
The performance is ridiculous.
Oh my god.
To the point, I have to look it up,
but I heard that I'm-
Here's Johnny here sometimes when I walk in the-
Yeah.
Well, the funny part about the-
Shut up.
The Here's Johnny line.
Like, the funny part about the Here's Johnny line
is that like, I didn't remember,
but it's like, right before he chops that door down
and sticks his face in,
he chops down the first door
and he kind of just gives a very normal, almost deadpan,
like, hey honey, I'm home.
And like, you know what I mean?
And it's not overdoing it, right?
Just a very matter of fact, like,
hey, I'm here.
What's going on, guys?
You know, like, I'm coming to bash your brains in.
What's the problem?
It's fantastic.
Like, the way he delivers his lines is Lloyd Jack Nicholson,
of course, you know, in his prime.
But I was going to say, I heard that I forgot
because co-star's name, the play is his wife.
Shelly Duvall.
Shelly Duvall, excuse me.
Yeah, she, like, there were a lot of things
where, like, they didn't tell her about certain scares
or certain moments.
Yeah, that's me.
So she was genuinely getting, like, the crap,
like, like, scared out of her,
because Kubrick was just like, no, we want this real.
Yeah.
You know?
You get pretty antsy out of him.
Yeah, and it kept her on edge.
And like, she was really shaky, like, the whole time.
Like, it's not true.
Exactly, right?
Well, do you know if they didn't fuck what movie
is it, were you in the top?
Yeah, no, exactly.
So it's Die Hard, right?
My favorite of all time is Nakatomi Plaza,
at the top, when, you know, what?
Exactly.
So that moment, like, the way, the reason why
his face is so genuine is because the guy-
Because he didn't know he was going to shove.
They were holding him by the arm, and like,
okay, we're going to let you go, and five, four, three,
and let him go.
And, you know, and like, so he was preparing for it,
and then he was already falling.
So you get that look of face of, like,
pure, I'm going to die fear.
It's like, well, this movie was worth it.
And that's the-
Oh, shit.
Maybe it was worth it.
That was a really good shot.
That's the cut they used.
I totally look awesome with that shot.
It was great, you know?
So, yeah.
Was she even acting?
Right, yeah.
And so, poor Shelly DeVall is just getting, like,
tossed around, you know, in this movie, like,
with moments where, like, yeah,
she genuinely was waiting for something,
and it came from another side, or, you know, like,
I was like, wow, and whatever you did,
like, the end result was one of the best films,
like, one of my favorite films of all time, for sure.
Yeah.
Again, controversial statement, I know.
So controversial, yeah.
Yeah.
Edgelord.
Yeah.
And-
And Trarian, just all-
Well, and I guess, like, and I guess,
to speaking of Edgelords,
I just wanted to make a quick comment.
I was playing some Final Fantasy XV,
which all the cool kids are playing now.
And-
And the third thing is cute in that game.
Yeah.
It's really cute in that game.
And I just, I just, like, I'm still enjoying it
minus the time-wasting parts that could be fixed.
But I just want to correct, like, something,
like, last week, I was kind of saying that
the main character is, like, a kind of an edgy
email sort of kid was the impression I got.
But after spending a bit more time
and having a few, well, not a few,
like, a couple more, like,
heart-to-heart dialogue cutscenes
and moments with your party, I take that back.
That's totally not his attitude at all.
He's an awkward shit.
He's an, he's a little bit awkward at times,
but he's just hanging with his boys.
And he wants to make them,
he wants them to, like, laugh.
And you want, you know what I mean?
Like, you choose your dialogue choices and stuff.
But the attitude he gives off,
despite his hair looking really emo,
it's not-
And his clothes.
Oh, man.
Judging book by a cover.
Totally.
But, yeah.
Yeah, but, no, I take it back.
I take it back.
It totally, I'm having fun with that.
I've played it a bit, too.
And I'm like, I really like it.
I'm very fond of it.
Over 20 hours in now.
And I'm not, like, totally sold on the open world,
though.
I think it's like, I think the, your,
your methods of getting around the world are
inadequate for a long period.
And eventually you get the chocobo,
which is a big improvement.
But, like, the car,
I get them not wanting the car to go off-road,
but, like, it controls so rigidly.
And I just end up sitting so often,
or fast traveling and waiting through,
like, almost minute-long loading screens every time.
And I find that, like, that's not awesome.
It's the loading gets really tiring after a while.
And also, it's like, it really does, yeah.
I'm playing this back-to-back with Watch Dogs 2.
And in Watch Dogs 2,
I appreciate that I could just fucking fast travel
to, like, pretty much any building.
You couldn't go to quest locations,
but you could go to restaurants,
you could go to clothing stores,
and you could go to some other category.
But all over the place.
Because those places are all over the place.
In Final Fantasy, it's really strict.
You can, you can work to gas stations.
You can fast travel to, like, yeah,
parking spots you've been to.
Yeah, and that's it.
And it would be nicer if you could fast travel
to a few more types of places,
because there are situations where you have to drive
for a fair while, or, yeah.
And the fast travel is sometimes, like,
you know, the better end of a minute.
It's almost, but it's almost always faster.
The game tells you how many minutes
about it's going to take you to drive to somewhere.
And so you're looking at it,
and you're like, it's going to take six minutes.
Well, I'm going to fast travel.
And fast travel takes a minute.
But it's still way better,
but you're still waiting for a minute.
You kind of, you have a disengaging moment, you know?
Yeah.
Get a cheap keyboard,
and put it next to you in the living room,
and, like, you know, in the loading screen.
This is how I got through Bloodborne.
Yeah, those long loading screens, yes.
Every time I screwed up,
which was every time I did anything.
Yeah.
So I was constantly dying.
So I'm like, I got one of those little, like,
blow accordion thingies.
It's a melodica.
Yeah.
You know, the piano that has a straw that you blow into?
Yeah.
And I just dicked around on that
and played stupid little songs.
Good thing Shino is not in that building at the time,
because you need to cut my balls off.
They don't sound great, but you know what you have
that you could annoy me with?
Think about it.
I don't know.
It's Japanese.
It looks like a music note.
I don't have that anymore.
Oh, that fucking thing.
That thing is awesome.
Those are great.
After what you did with it,
I'm like, not surprised you don't have it anymore.
So you just...
What?
I'm a melodica player.
I'm just going to get a tomatona.
Why'd you get rid of it?
And then you're screwed.
So believe it or not, I have...
I gave it away.
I gave it away to my oldest niece and nephew
who are 12 and 30 to annoy my sister.
Oh, that's a good house cause.
Fair enough.
Get it.
I, because...
I ran it in.
Yeah, because my niece and my nephew are old enough now
that they're starting a text
and understand what trolling is now.
So I was like, here you go.
Enjoy this.
The next time you see her, she's going to punch you.
That's fine.
I don't care.
But they're like, they're both...
They're actually both learning
how to play actual instruments and stuff.
Like one of them is playing like the saxophone and stuff.
So it's like, oh, here's...
You can play two series instruments
and here's your dick-off instrument.
Yeah, yeah.
Because it's technically an instrument.
Yeah, totally.
Tomatone is an instrument,
but it's just kind of like a really weird one.
I've seen people shred on that thing.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, it's a super...
Yeah, it's a super...
Like I came over, she's a violinist,
and she shreds on an automaton.
Yeah, it's disgusting.
I don't want to play the Addams family on an automaton,
like the theme.
That's something that...
That's as far as I got,
and then gave it away to my nephew,
and I feel like they...
No, you did it for a shit-disturbing purposes,
and like that's from the heart, you know?
Like no one can beat that.
That's so weird.
I love that.
Because like, I'm not even kidding.
Like five minutes, I was like explaining
to them how to use it.
And they were like really concerned.
And they were like, what the...
You can look on their faces.
It looks like a thing.
It looks like an album.
Like on their faces, they were like,
what the fuck is this?
And then my niece would come up,
and she'd poke it, and it would go, brah.
And she was like, huh?
Yeah.
And then my nephew was like,
he kind of looked at it,
and was like watching me,
and he just grabs it out of my hand,
and he squeezes it,
and he just holds a note.
So he goes, brah!
And then my sister just glares at me immediately.
And he was like, thanks, bye.
And then Rando's room turned it up
as high as it can go,
and just started hitting all the notes on it.
And you could just hear it from across the room.
Like, and my sister was like, hey.
Beautiful.
And I was like, eh?
So no, I can't tell you anymore,
unless I buy a new one.
You know they have mini ones too?
Those aren't as good.
No, they're really not,
but I'm just saying.
No, I know.
But I'm going to buy a new automaton.
Because you can have one of those on your body at all times,
in case you need to bother someone.
So this is a great part,
is I'm getting a new automaton.
This is the same one that I had,
and it has an out.
It has an out.
Really?
I didn't know that was a thing.
I'm getting a mini amp that I can clip to my mouth.
Nice.
Right around MagFest.
With this automaton.
Just bap, because I can carry it on.
Look, a Marshall stack behind you,
like a real warrior.
All right, with the generator,
and blow some ear cones, man.
So I want to get like a little amp.
Jam space is everywhere.
Yeah, I want to take the automaton
to the jam space at MagFest.
Hey, blow some shit out of it.
You'll be like an anti-luccio.
Just like that.
Let's make it MagFest band automaton.
This is where we don't make it down.
It's like the No Durians on an Indonesian airport.
Or like No Colossus.
No Colossus, yeah.
No automatons.
No automatons.
I bet they do that if we bring like 20 of them.
If we annoy them enough.
A nice concentrated effort.
I guess you can't play your songs on automaton.
You know, like Jake and I have a mutual friend named DJ Boo.
She showed me this instrument.
And so it's really funny
because we'll sit on Discord
and he'll make noises with it
and then I'll imitate it
just because it's a fun stupid thing
until I got one.
And we were just like doing this.
So we decided that we were going to be
an automaton band at MagFest.
And that we're going to do dueling of the automatons.
And so that's just what we're going to do.
Sick.
It's going to be.
Walk through the hall.
I'm so glad that you guys aren't gone.
We're going to be there.
I'm not going.
I didn't know you were going.
I knew Liam was.
Yeah.
I didn't know you were.
So that's great.
All right, well then there you go.
There you go.
Yeah.
I'm going until McCorden shows up.
OK.
Great.
Done.
Shut up, bro.
Oh, God, dude, I'm so happy
this is getting pushed for RealReal.
Better.
I was thinking like it would be smart
to just roll into the emails.
What do you think?
Yeah, me as well.
Yeah, OK.
Oh, there's something I wanted to sort of just
mention over the weekend is that, you know,
because there's some details that someone,
if they hadn't been on the stream,
that they may have missed.
But we were also all joking aside.
We were at Yo Video Games, Max's Place.
We were at their place.
And we did a sick ass stream
that I think topped out around 9,000 people.
Gang Beasts, man.
Gang Beasts was the main course
peppered with some urban rain on the PS2
and WrestleMania 2000 and the N64.
And like, it had been a long time.
We didn't actually play any WrestleMania 2000.
Yeah, but you know what?
We totally didn't get out.
We watched.
We set the computer to play
as created character versions of us and our friends.
And then just like that shouted over that.
Who's going to win?
Yeah, that was quite high up.
You did J.R.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bah, God!
And along with that,
every so often we were given a soda.
Now, in Canada, we don't have as elaborate
soda.
I'll let cool foods as America does,
like ranch dressing soda or dirt soda.
So what's that candy store in?
Rocket Wiz is the one.
Rocket Wiz is that it.
Rocket Fizz is the one we got brought to.
I had one 30 seconds walk from my house.
Yeah, okay.
I fucked my life.
We went in.
We got, yeah, we got dirt.
We tried dirt which was described as eating a carpet.
It's dirt.
Drinking a carpet.
It doesn't actually taste like dirt that much.
There was a dirty part.
How did you eat a dirty part?
It wasn't going up on the floor.
It wasn't pleasant, it was not pleasant.
It was not great.
And then carrot cake, which was just.
Which we were going, well, that will be better.
Yeah.
It wasn't by much.
There's potpourri in your mouth.
Potpourri in your mouth.
Oh, that's gross.
That's gross.
The tic-tacs.
Oh, oh my God.
Fuck off.
The cherry and cola tic-tacs taste like you just ate a potpourri bomb.
And every day, do you want a tic-tac?
Do you want a tic-tac?
Yeah, that's a tic-tac question.
Potpourri's a good way to describe it.
I described it as I just drank an old lady's house.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like a hoarder.
I could taste some of my bottle.
Yeah.
It's gross.
It's a good nose taste, not a good mouth taste.
Right.
And then like shortly before, I think it was before gang B started.
And if anyone's interested, go to Max's Twitch channel and look at the VOD because it's amazing
when we played gang Bs.
Because we didn't know that you could play seven player.
Up to eight.
Up to eight.
Up to eight, but we played seven.
We were seven.
On the unstable builds.
But still probably like one of the most fun times I've had and I need it.
But right before that, we were given a soda which was called ranch dressing.
And I took one sniff of it.
And I kindly told all my friends in that room that you're all heroes because I will not drink this.
I felt like I will throw up if I drink it.
So I had to nut up and take Matt's portion for him.
No, you actually didn't need to do that.
But you did it anyway.
I appreciate it.
It was, it was, it was rancid.
It was, it was not, it was, that was the one thing it was not was ranch.
Yeah.
It was like you had like a, like the fizz got by and once the, once the fizz
goes down, you're just left with oil, like just oil in your mouth.
And to be clear, there was no oil.
It was a soda.
Yeah.
But that was kind of the taste.
Liam, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you said this might be the worst thing I ever drank.
Yeah.
It was probably the worst thing I ever drank.
That was intended to be consumed.
That was intended to be consumed.
Like there were bits where, you know, I accidentally drank spoiled milk and I was like,
Hey, why does this new cereal taste a bit funny?
Oh, that's why.
New cereal, I guess.
So that's probably just the cereal taste.
But no, this is the worst thing I've ever actually purposefully tried to drink.
It's rough.
It's like, it's just like jake.
It's not getting through it.
Like Lay has always has all these like weird variety and like.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's a contest.
Canada flickers here now.
That's the new big thing.
There, I guess the marketing, whatever's listening to the internet.
Okay.
No one's like, yo.
Ketchup.
Canada.
Poutine.
Yeah.
We don't get poutine yet.
Okay.
I do have them.
I've seen them.
Where?
I've been told, I can ask, but I've been told that there's one guy, a chef from Quebec that
opened up a store, opened up a restaurant in I think probably central LA.
And a friend I know has been there, has been like, yeah, it's legit poutine,
but that's because it's from that guy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So they know how to make good places at.
So like, I just.
Brandon knows what it is, but I don't know about the name of it.
No, not smokes.
No.
So like, I always like to eat jake, these like different weird flavored Lay's and just watch
like how this.
I like it a lot.
I was like, I was like, eat this like, like, what was it like biscuits and gravy thing.
And he grabs like a whole handful and just brands it all into his mouth.
And he's just like, he's like, why am I doing this?
Well, whenever my girlfriend's family has a cottage in New York state and we go there
every now and again.
And whenever we go, I always like check the chips to see if you know,
Lay's has had their like new contest and shit.
I buy all the new varieties so we can try them, right?
And the one that always stuck out to me that I'm like, I'm kind of sad doesn't exist anymore
with the cinnamon bun chips.
I don't know if you're okay with that.
Oh, no, no, no, they're great.
Wait, wait, are they meant to be like, there's no salt on them.
Okay.
They're sweet only.
There's no salt.
It's just sweet.
Potato and sweet.
Okay.
Okay.
So like, and it's so huge.
So it's really just, it's just the texture then that like you're getting cinnamon bun
plus a texture of a chip.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
But the potato is actually slightly salty, like a bugles maybe.
No, no, no, it's just sweet.
These are like re, they're like reconstituted.
Yeah.
Shit.
So yeah.
But I mean, just like the slight salty flavor mixed with the overwhelming.
Potatoes aren't, potato aren't salty.
They aren't, they aren't salty.
I promise you go take a bite of a potato.
It's watery.
Yeah, it's not salty.
But anyway, these cinnamon buns were fucking winners.
And I couldn't, I couldn't.
I believe it.
Can't get any more of them.
Yeah.
Wow.
It's a big loss for society.
How many times are open on your phone, really?
Oh, oh my God.
You want to go?
You want to go?
You want to go right now, Sheena?
Listen, listen.
All right.
I'm not going to listen to bullshit.
I have tabs and I have a session saver so I can close them when I need to.
Resume the session on the phone because I have my browser at home where I got my bases covered.
I have information that I need to consume on my phone.
I now, okay, I currently have 12 tabs open in Chrome and Safari has six.
Okay, and how about on the private side of?
How many times have you got open on there?
I did eight plus three, Leo.
So there we go.
It's fine.
You didn't refer Duff's, you didn't refer me.
Um, nah, man.
I'm all, listen, all I'm saying is this.
If there's a performance issue, I got a session saver.
I can close it down, lose nothing, resume it when I need to.
Yeah, but how often do you have that problem?
I bet you all the fucking time.
It's, but ever since I bought a better computer, it's been fine.
There are three, three times a year.
Often suspected performance problems in games are due to your browser.
No, and I've, I've, I've, I test that shit three times a year.
She and I, I'm telling you three times a year.
I will make it all the way through and it feels great.
It's a very satisfying feeling.
You and I both know you don't got that.
It's cathartic.
I'm on your side.
Thank you.
I will show you my desktop in a minute and you're just going to hug me.
You're going to hug me too.
I don't even have a safe session.
I just opened so many tabs and I switched between them.
I, I, I can't see everything.
Like personally, I prefer living without the weight of the world on my chest.
That's fine.
My actual icons on my desktop are just like my recycling bin and like a unity and
overwatch or whatever, a technical fault, but I keep it really simple.
Four or five tops, but my tabs are just, what's wrong with information?
What's wrong with how many times do you have that?
Well, see, I, there's a certain amount of nobility in line to yourself.
So hard that you believe yourself.
Like, I just want to know that like, before you ask this question, it's going to determine
whether we're going to stay friends after this one guest or not.
So like how many times do you have to know?
I don't usually have more than two because I managed my information well.
See, okay.
See, sometimes I get a video and that video is 12 minutes and it's like,
it's knit tips on how to use this character in this game.
And I'm like, I don't have time right now, but I want to get back to it.
Ideally you're supposed to watch videos when you're like eating food or something.
But then, but then people are on.
I wake up, I have the S in the morning.
I fucking roll physically out of bed.
I grab a bowl of cereal and I eat and I watch YouTube.
But then, but then people are on me.
Like this guy's on me to watch lucha underground when I'm eating food.
And this guy's on me to watch Dagen Rampe when I'm eating food.
And everyone's on me to watch a different thing.
So I'm like, I'm doing those things.
And then my, well, that's, that's the way I got my probably minimizing
into the corner and just letting the sounds wash over me.
But, but, but.
That's no excuse to have like a 800 tabs.
It, it's.
Plus all your bookmarks are tabs.
We need intervention.
Yeah.
Join me in tab comfort land.
Accept your tab, accept your tab image and have a positive self.
Thank you.
Self appraisal.
I appreciate it.
Nobody cares about what the composer has to say.
Crazy person.
And I'm inviting you into chaos with me.
A natural limit.
There's a natural limit.
And that is when you can no longer see the icon of the tab.
I can't.
Right.
That's when you're like, okay.
I can't see it.
Or if you're like five for the same site and you can't tell which is which.
Yeah.
You know, some of these have got to go.
Yeah.
There's, there's multiple little YouTube play buttons here.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But.
Which one's making sound?
Shit.
Well, they now have the little icon that tells you.
Thank God.
Finally.
Right.
Yeah.
Finally.
Heaven.
Finally.
Yeah.
Yeah.
For the hoarders like you.
Oh, it's so good.
Sheena, I swear to God.
Sheena, I swear to God.
I swear to God, Sheena.
Hoarders are.
Where are you going?
Digital hoarders.
Digital hoarder.
You're all disgraced.
Like.
World-band, we have to be in different places at once, you know?
The feeling.
Learn how to manage your time better, my friend.
That is my problem.
You're right.
The core, I, the core of it to get down to it.
But like I was going to say, like, if you want to ruin my day or my week or possibly my month.
Just close.
Come in, close my tabs and then don't recover.
Then open a new one and say, no, no, recover.
Or it's like when your mom cleans up your room.
But everything was with you.
Yeah.
Because you see there, like when my friend would come over and like.
People would clean up around me and I'm just like, where's my headphones?
They were on top of the cabinet last night.
Why the hell are they up there?
I don't know, but they were.
If someone, if someone comes over and is like, I actually need to check when the bus is coming.
And they'll like open up the browser and be like, no, wait, stop.
And you'd be like, dude, I don't want your creepy porn.
And I'm like, no, my tabs.
My tabs.
You're gonna ruin them.
You have a problem.
I can't ever come back to Montreal.
I'm just going to go to your house when you're not there.
I'm going to break in and shut my tabs down because you know they're running.
I don't agree with that.
I don't agree with the man's bookmarks.
He's sick.
He has a problem.
Yeah, maybe a clean.
You have to excise the dead tissue.
Yeah.
God, just cut it away.
And my life.
Why don't you?
My entire history in my life, I have never had bookmarks.
I have two right now that I can recall.
One is Andrews, Andrews demo stuff.
One is the worst thing about train horns, which is a clickbait, like generated article
about the hazards of like having train horns too close to your like the NIMBY effect.
Okay.
The train horns near you.
Sure.
But it's done and I believe it's, I don't want to guess at the ethnicity of the people who are
writing the article.
It's somebody from English is a very remote second language.
Okay.
And they're grasping.
It's incoherent.
Yeah.
Wait, what is this?
It's not machine translate.
It's worst thing about train horns.
Yeah, worst thing about horns.
Okay.
Notes.
Yeah, why don't you open it up?
How about you open a new tab?
Damn, Willie.
Damn, motherfucker.
Open a tab.
Damn straight.
And you know what?
Liam, you're not going to have time to read that right now on the podcast,
but you'll read it a little bit later.
I'm reading it right now.
I can't find it.
We have this beef.
I just believe it.
I know how to find it.
We're not friends anymore.
What you, what you.
We're not friends anymore.
What you don't know.
The worst thing about train horns.
There should be a picture of like a train like going through.
No.
It's.
We'll look it up later.
What goes unspoken is the amount of tabs that I, that I open up and close like very shortly
after going like, you know what?
Actually, I don't care.
Or like upon second thought, I have a tab and I'm like, you know what?
No, I really don't care about this.
The time has passed.
I don't believe that.
It happens.
Are you lying to me or are you lying to you?
I swear to God.
Who are you lying to?
And again, the session savers saves it.
But I'll tell you what.
Look, if you have suggestions on how to get rid of all these tabs, you can send them in to
super best.
How do you remotely destroy tabs?
Right.
For a super best friendcast at gmail.com.
Wait, we can make a ding.
That's super best friendcast at gmail.com.
Oh my God.
That's a good idea.
It can make a, that triggers a macro on our computer.
And it deletes all over.
Okay.
It closes your browser.
Deletes the oldest tab on my Chrome.
That could be arranged.
Okay.
I have a piece of woolly dyes every single time.
Forcing me.
Not all of them, but just one by one.
The oldest tab.
It gets rid of all of his horcruxes.
I was like, no, I was uploading.
Fuck.
Yeah, that was a video you wanted.
There's a lockout timer on the thing.
So even after it's done, you know, it's still locked for a little while because we don't
want to be eating cupcakes every 15 seconds.
I know what the fuck.
You know, this cupcake light goes on and we have a cupcake eating contest.
I will agree.
But once an hour, you know.
I will agree to it jovially right now.
And then just start using Firefox.
Like, like, like a god damn addict.
Yeah, time for opera.
Let's go with the fucking music.
Disheveled addict.
Okay.
We got a question coming in from Colton and Colton says,
They're super best fuckcast.
Love listening to your podcast weekly.
Thank you.
Been doing this from the start.
What is the shittiest shit Lord cheater-esque exploiting you've ever done in a video game,
whether single or multiplayer?
My example was achievement hunting in the days of RE5,
where you win a ton of multiplayer matches.
There's a roof where you can get through.
It's only accessible by a ladder.
So it's easy to stand up there and your friend has to use a rocket launcher
anytime people try to reach you.
It was my lowest shittiest form.
And I loved it.
Thanks for all the laughs.
I'm glad you're bad.
That's filth.
Right.
What's the dirtiest grime-iest thing you've ever done in a single or multiplayer game?
I think I think one time we were doing a fisticuffs on the channel.
And we were playing an arcade game that was for players.
And I'm like, whatever I was about to game over,
I'd press the insert coin button.
Oh, it's Russell Fest?
Yeah, yeah.
I was doing that for a while.
Nobody caught on.
And then eventually everyone caught on and started doing it.
That was pretty dirt, giving yourself life.
I know mine is when-
Because it just refilled your life was what it was.
That's true, yeah.
It was another wrestling game.
And that was when we were playing Def Jam, Vendetta, the first one.
And then I was like, eh, I was going to take him.
No, I'm going to take D-Mob at the last second, the boss.
Remember it was the three girls versus D-Mob?
And it was like, it took you guys 25 minutes to beat me.
You were always going to beat me, but just the way it worked.
And I did not mean to take him.
I meant to take him for a joke and then back out.
But all of you went, no.
No, this is serious.
So that's what that was.
There was definitely at least once when my cousin was being a shit
and we were playing Street Fighter II back in the day.
And I slowly crept up my handicap on the player two screens.
But no, no, no, no, no, no.
Just specifically to be a shit at him when he didn't know what it was.
And then get him all frustrated.
And then afterwards, totally until he obviously caught on at some point.
But just to fucking twist him, get him back at him.
I totally did that.
At least once.
That's pretty good.
That's the only time I did something.
It's because I have a brother and we used to play Twisted Metal 4 on PlayStation a lot.
He's older than me.
He's better than me.
And it's pissed me off one day because he was punching me in the head as he kept it
when he was like, you got to get better.
Get good.
Get good.
And I ended up pulling out his controller at the last second when he was about to shoot me.
And I shot him and killed him.
And that was the only time.
You won that day.
I won that day.
And that was the only time.
Lesson learned.
Don't let anyone tell you different.
Never cheat.
Never cheat.
I was right.
I got beat up.
Don't cheat.
I got one that suits my personality perfectly.
I played an entire 200 plus hour game of oblivion in god mode with all stats maxed.
Because I wanted all the hiking, but none of the challenge.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Sure.
I was basically in story mode, but come on.
It's fucking oblivion.
Yeah, fuck it.
You think me?
Fuck it.
No, totally agreed.
Like I could have destroyed the game and been massively overpowered.
And effectively that's god mode.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You one shot everything in the game after like 20 hours.
Like I could go for umbra right away and be just wrecking everything.
Like, but anyway, I played it all in god mode and I gave myself like acrobatics maxed.
So you could jump right everywhere.
Like I utterly broke the game through it.
But yeah, that's my car.
That's no, that's fine, man.
There was there was that.
There was that time where Matt, you, myself, Pat and a friend who goes unnamed
were playing Mark of the Wolves and uh, the unnamed friend was about to get uh,
he was, he was, he was losing pretty badly and it was almost like a perfect situation,
like a double perfect situation.
And uh, he was about to get supered to finish it off.
And like as soon as the super started and like he was and he was clearly about to get hit.
He was open.
He just got up and pressed the reset button just like, nope.
Didn't happen.
Nope.
Nothing, nothing went that you didn't win.
There's a certain ability.
It was a clean, you didn't win.
Wait, no, I got the real one.
That's a shit move.
I finally figured out.
Sorry.
Sorry.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
Um, yo, I gave my, I knowingly gave my sister a broken NES controller playing track and field.
Oh, that's goofy.
She's like, why am I not moving?
I'm like, you're not hitting the button fast enough.
Oh, that's so dirty.
Oh, dude.
I don't miss the key.
Oh my god.
No, that's the key.
No, that's the key.
That's the key.
It's like a kind of a scrubby kind of like you're kind of just weird.
And that's, no, that's king because like, I'm like, yeah, that,
that street fighter handicap shit.
Like if it was, if I was to get seriously, that'd be pretty dirty,
but he, it was, it was to get him for a brief period of time.
It was for the joke.
But that, oh, sorry.
I hope that interruption was worth it.
No, no, no, no.
No, it totally was.
That's that you want.
His brothers are nicks.
Dude, you want the line.
You have to be a pro like me is worth that.
That that's, that's good.
That's good stuff.
We should say that more often.
Now I'm, now I'm just playing a little dangerous all the time.
I just, I don't want to even do anything competitive anymore.
I just want to mine after it's all day long.
Nick Rabb is pretty happy that we're hyping for Mads Mickelson showing up in Death Stranding.
And he just, it's just a recommendation.
He's saying like, if you're a big fan of him, check out a suspense,
a foreign suspense thoroughly he did called The Hunt.
Matt, especially, you probably like it.
I've, I've, I've gone by that.
And that's what that dude's face is so interesting.
There's a really good western movie he was in called The Salvation where he's,
he's like from Denmark and he travels to the old West and like sets, sets up a life there.
And he has his wife and his child come from Denmark and then just revenge happens.
Needs to happen very, very good.
And we'll take one last one from the Michael and he straight up says.
The Michael.
The Michael recently visited an old cabinet of Marvel superheroes gathering
dust in my mall.
It works, but all the buttons are broken.
And it really only serves the purpose of looping the intro movie.
I know, I know one nearby.
Yeah, yeah.
I was reminiscing when I was a young boy about five.
I was reminiscing when a young boy of about five years old walked up to me and starts explaining
to me what the game was and how he's never played it.
So I started talking to him about my memories playing it when I was a kid.
It was this moment that I experienced like a big surreal event where I had become the big kid.
Explaining to the little kid about the arcade game.
Have you ever had one of these moments at an arcade or anything similar?
Yeah.
We as sorry to say the last part, it's if I've experienced being a big kid.
Like, yeah.
A moment where like you kind of had this when you were younger and then I guess like you
fill in the role that someone else did to you earlier on or something like that.
I just want to talk about a time.
Sure, it's barely related, but go.
It's close, but it's barely related to the time where Mortal Kombat 3 had just come out.
And there was it was at a big indoor mall in the Maritimes in Canada.
And I went to go.
I wanted to play and there's just big kids playing and they were very big and I couldn't I couldn't
get to play and they wouldn't let me play.
So I got playing to the arcade manager that the big guys wouldn't let me play.
And then I didn't.
I would have deserved it.
And then here's the things that I kind of didn't think they would work.
They would like go like whatever.
No, but then they did let me but not unlike a cool like brotherly.
Ha ha.
Yeah.
Sorry, kid.
Way more like we're going to glare at you the entire time way.
But I didn't I took I took some zero and I don't know how to do any moves and they just
killed me and then I walked away and I received no satisfaction.
That's not really an answer to the question.
But then again, the question is kind of kind of ropes in with this one because it was only
actually a couple of months ago.
I was like visiting a friend in like Virginia and we were like, oh, let's go to the statement
busters and play like DDR.
Like, yeah, let's do this.
And these two little girls, I guess they were like there for a party or something.
And you know, it's just like, well, I've noticed that when you play DDR, like there's like super
elitist like try hard DDR kids, right?
And I was like, I know what you mean.
Yeah.
It was like, I mean, because just like Japanese like rhythm games are just like the serious
fucking thing.
Like, and so like, that's life or death.
That's like initial D.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's super is.
And so I was like playing like DDR with just these these group of fucking people and these
two little girls come up and they like we're with their moms and their moms are just kind
of like arms crossed just like waiting for the kids to stop playing or whatever.
And like we got done with the with like our rounds or whatever, because it's like it's
like a winner to, you know, best two out of three or whatever.
So then I kind of like was watching these little girls like super excited and they
really wanted to try it or whatever.
So then I ended up like telling like looking at the moms and I said, they'll take my turn
next next thing or whatever.
And the thing is, is now with DDR machines, you need like a card.
So I let these little kids, I was like, I was like, hey guys, like just be cool, be cool,
like let these little kids play or whatever.
And like a couple of the guys were like, oh, why should we?
We're like in the middle of the house.
Like, dude, just be fucking cool.
Like just chill.
These little kids are going to play like one skateboard and they're going to be out of here.
So then like, so then like we got done.
And then these little, these like I put my card in on both slots and I like kind of
waved over these little girls and I was like, come play, come play.
And they were like, really?
And then I kind of like looked at the mom because I was like, I'm not trying to.
Yeah, I was like, I was like, I'm not trying to be creepy.
Like, I know your kids want to fucking just be in general.
Yeah.
Yeah. I was like, no.
And then like the mom just kind of looked at me.
I was like, listen, I'm not trying to be, I have like a niece, a niece is an FU.
It's like, I know how this goes.
And they're like, thank you so much.
And the little girls, they like, you know, of course they're not good or anything,
but they had a blast.
There you go.
They both like shook their heads and they were like, thank you.
And I was like, yeah.
And then like a half of the people already were all pissed off and walked away.
And I was like, oh dude, like now those two and now they're DDR champions.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Now those little kids are going to remember that time that that big kid like let them play
on their card.
And of course it trashed some of my like, some of my, like my scourge.
You write your rap on it.
Whatever dude.
Nice.
Yeah.
So that was my first and only experience with like trying to be like the big kid now.
Yeah.
I think these like little kids take a turn in our kid.
That's pretty cool.
The closest thing to an answer for that question I could think of is going to my
aunt's house at Christmas and my like seven and eight year old
nephew's are playing Halo 2.
And I was like, oh, and I see them kind of getting in on it and whatnot.
And if this, I don't think it's too long after it came out.
And I was like talking to them about like, you know, playing GoldenEye back in the day
and like the fun local multiplayer experience and stuff and how, you know,
like we had fun with license to kill mode and all that stuff.
And like, oh yeah, cool.
You know, this game's pretty fun too.
And I was like, yeah, yeah, I've played some Halo as well.
Let's play together and whatnot.
And they bodied the shit out of me.
I got worked so hard by these little kids on Halo like unbelievably so.
And, uh, yeah, I was, I was not the big kid there.
I, I, it was, it was rough.
You were the brave kid.
I was the brave kid, but no.
Oh, oh, no.
I think you're like two minutes into the match and you're like, oh, no.
Oh, no.
What happened?
Oh, my God.
What happened?
Oh, God.
All right.
I got a good story, but I'm going to tell you in the, in the form of a song.
Should we clap?
It's Christmas, visited my friend's home, seven and 10 into Minecraft,
taught him how to moth the shit out of Minecraft, seven and 10, telling me feed the beast crashed.
I'm on Minecraft.
What?
I'm on Minecraft now.
Because we don't know anything about Minecraft.
So, yeah.
Oh, you shit.
And I was, I was like, we were best friends about Minecraft.
I was like best friends with these kids because I knew Minecraft.
I taught him how to install feed the beast.
I taught him how to install like all the mod packs and get it all souped up, customized.
Okay.
All the like machines and chips.
I'll tripped out with like 150 different types of dirt block.
Like they're really crazy.
The extra Lego Technic pack of Minecraft.
Yeah, okay.
It's just a song that made that good.
I know, but it's a like, I had such a great moment.
And then they started talking about Five Nights at Freddy's.
And they had artwork on their walls of fan art.
That does sound like kids.
And I was like, damn, those kids.
So I felt like the cool older, like I'm cool figure.
Okay.
Yeah, that's it.
Kids about Minecraft.
Like I knew more than about a kid than I knew more than a kid about Minecraft.
Yeah.
So like here's how you customize and get all the cool stuff.
Yeah.
Here's how you put in the nude code for Tomb Raider kid.
Yeah.
Here's how you get nude.
Doctor, you get those kids into a cult at that point.
Straight up.
This is how you like Minecraft, right?
What's up?
You like Minecraft?
I am obsessed with Minecraft.
So like, do you make like big like tracks for mine carts?
I make nuclear reactors and municipal power grids.
I'm not even exaggerating.
We're working on a gigantic platform for a giant city.
But do you make like roller coasters?
I mean, the train systems.
Does that get you going?
Unless I'm holding a pork chop in my hand, I can fix it.
Okay, cool.
Okay, cool.
And you need to hear a bit of music that has an awkward loop, right?
I'll get it.
Yeah.
Just, just.
I'll just play the actual Minecraft.
Okay.
Sir, why are you carrying a pickaxe onto this ride at Six Flags?
And then you're like, I love Minecraft.
Did you know your song doesn't loop in?
Bruns off.
So I told him about my picks.
Oh my god.
Oh yeah.
Now you know why I have a funk orchestra assembled
the songs that I write for me.
Now I know why the audience can like zap you with lasers
and control the lights and fuck shit up.
It's not just to cheer me on.
It's to give me the what for.
I know I deserve it.
All right, let's wrap this up, man.
If you take the nipple clamps.
I wanted to say there's, right, of course.
Yeah, we're in California.
We're leaving in a couple hours.
I want to thank the incredible turnout that we had for a fan meetup.
Yeah, that was great.
Round one, we got kicked out of round one arcade.
We went to-
Because it was a security risk.
Because there was like 120 or so people.
Someone counted 160.
Well, no, I just estimated about how many were in there
when we first got there.
Someone counted 160 at one point.
Oh, you're right.
You're right.
You're right.
You're probably well over there.
It's really cool.
Yeah, we basically got kicked out of round one.
We got kicked out of the parking.
We wandered around the side.
Yeah, this first security guard was like,
yeah, just go somewhere else, go to this got side.
We went to the loading dock where there's the trash bin dumpster right next to us.
It was perfect.
We started signing stuff next to a huge dumpster.
Yeah, a little dumpster party.
It was great.
We got kicked out of the dumpster party.
And we had to just go stand in the closed,
like parking a lot of a lipo section clinic.
You're a father of a lipo.
It was great.
It was.
Yeah.
And security was actually totally-
You just started breaking cars and shit.
At that point.
Yeah, there was no cars.
And security was rolling up on us, like, what do you kids do?
And then we're just like, no, I'm just standing around.
No, that's okay.
We're YouTubers.
We're YouTubers or fans.
It's Pokemon Go.
Maybe they're throwing a challenge.
Step up and look up.
What are you guys doing?
What are you guys?
Are you criminals?
No, we're YouTubers.
I'm the coppice to fire upon us.
Immediately.
Immediately escalate to come out.
We're from YouTube.
Bang, bang, bang.
Bang, bang, bang.
Stars.
Insert one level.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's a tank that just rolls up.
Yeah.
But shout outs to those people.
Absolutely.
That stayed out in the cold with us for like, what?
We were there from like four and a half.
For four and a half hours drove out like four hours.
Yeah, man.
One plus hour.
Yeah.
Those people were here to see you.
Like, how does that make you feel?
Why don't you shake your pants?
Yes.
Every time.
It's terrifying.
It's humbling and super scary and confusing and all kinds of things.
But in the moment that they're there, it's just really.
Yes, exactly.
In the moment that they're arousing.
Yeah.
No, that's really just joyful.
You're really happy and grateful.
Yeah.
And then if I got five people show up, I'm like,
I can't even walk straight.
I'm just like paralyzed.
Yeah.
Again, it's just like while they're there, it's great.
And like immediately before and after.
It's just terrifying.
We're going to go on a goop.
Oh, shit.
I didn't realize that.
Maguma, thanks for coming out and helping us out, man.
And thanks to Bradley, too.
We're going to see if we can put a video or at least some photos.
Something out there will just show up in the event.
It was a good time.
So many people just did us right this time around.
Definitely.
Definitely.
And yeah, we're going to be back in town.
And then I guess the current stuff we're working on will continue.
So stick around with that.
You guys.
Almost completed this podcast.
Still have a bit more.
But yeah, you guys.
I'm sorry.
No, I'm sorry.
It's just like, this is our wrap up, our awkward wrap up.
It's just that you suddenly stood up and I don't know what's happening.
I'm standing up because my legs are getting dog.
And I need to actually get the blood back in my shirt.
I'm just regretting that I didn't follow you guys sooner
and listen to your stuff because you're really positive
in town and like, I'm really, I'm glad to be part of this
because you guys are running a cool thing.
Oh, thank you, man.
Thanks so much.
I, I, this is.
Right back at you.
It's nice to get ahead of it so that when you see it
and you're horribly disappointed by what you hear,
at least there's this moment, you know?
No, yeah.
This is the best possible way I could have spent a Sunday.
Like I was going to work on a thing and I can work on the thing later
because this is like the most time for me.
Yeah.
Thanks, man.
But, but like, you know, I'm really glad that I spent the time doing this
instead because it's inspiring me a lot.
So, you know, I gotta write a bunch of cartoon music right now.
Yeah.
And it's got to be funky.
And I just got to, you know, ride the positive vibes.
But.
And working people.
What I'm finding is having people around,
they're creative and driven and just full of life and stuff.
Mentos fresh and full of life.
Like it really, for real, it gets me,
it gets my gears going.
It gets me thinking about doing stuff.
I just want to do things.
I want to make things and create.
And that's an impulse that it's hard to add up when you're under a lot of pressure.
Right, right.
It's hard to keep that motivation up.
So having a team around a crew, you guys know,
you have the whole, the whole office crew.
Yeah.
We have a small team built up here and they're just pretty much
encouraging and positive all the time.
And, you know, I feel like life is transforming a bit for the better.
So I want you guys to come out here and see this in a year and see what we're at.
Oh, that'd be, that'd be awesome.
We'll help you for that.
But, you know, a piece in a year, come back out.
Maybe we'll have like diamond encrusted.
For chandeliers.
Toilet scrubbers, like, you know.
The scrubbers.
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
No, no, no.
Maybe we'll be still in business.
And that would be really cool.
It'll be a palace.
It'll be decked out with shiny marble floor floors,
but there will still be buzzers, lasers, and lights controlled by the internet
to keep you in place.
The door only opens when someone clicks.
Everyone, nobody can leave.
Nobody can come in.
Send Jake home, bud.
But like the toilet only flushes.
If my crew and I never reach any higher heights or never, you know,
achieve any glamour beyond what we've already got,
which is a small, tight-knit, really dope audience.
Like, I'm happy doing this for the rest of my life.
I really love working on music with an audience.
It's just addictive.
Once you do it enough, you're just like, I can't work without it.
I can't jizz without my people.
You're gonna watch me.
Yeah, I mean, sorry.
No, I just wanted to, I just want to like shamelessly again,
you know, vert, like, dude, like, I told you when I walked in here, man,
like, your stuff, you guys are doing it.
One of my favorite composers of all time.
And like, you know, the two patreons that I had on my thing
were pretty much We Shall Awake and Vert,
and We Shall Awake stopped their Patreon,
so now it's pretty much just you.
So like, I'm really, like, I just want you to keep doing it, man.
It's fucking surreal.
I love it.
Let me tell you how much I appreciate that.
That Patreon is, like, the worst-served Patreon in history,
I promise to do on it.
I haven't felt filled any of my things for the entire time it's been up,
and crazy people like you have been still supporting me,
even without getting the physical merchandise and all the promise stuff,
just because I believe in what I'm doing.
Well, because you're still producing content, either way.
The literal content.
If I can click a play button and hear things.
I didn't mean to call you crazy.
No, no, no, that's all I want.
Music is, from a consumer side, a result-based media,
and the results speak for themselves because they're resounding.
That's all I want.
I was using the Patreon to pay studio rent here before we took the place over,
and I was able to get help from Shovel Knight.
I didn't spend any new rent money on the studio at all,
and it's going towards the artists.
But all the Shovel Knight stuff that I made,
like, it was, like, the same thing.
I put the Patreon into my work, into my studio,
and invested it where I could.
And as soon as I got more stuff coming in from other sources,
I'm just using this stuff to drive, like, the possibility of making more music,
like, having a studio to work in, having a team to work with me and stuff,
just trying to make it smoother so I'm less stressed out.
I don't go through so many patches where I'm, like,
dead for four months because I just left it all in the dance floor or whatever.
I get to freaking work a normal schedule sometimes.
We get stuff done steadily, so it's not stressful.
But your contributions and everybody else's,
they help us do that because we stress out less about money,
and we don't have to take as many jobs and get overloaded.
So it's a really huge help, and I really appreciate the support,
like, from, you know, you and everyone else who's been standing by me
as I've been trying to get my insane hectic life together.
Well, it's our pleasure.
Yeah.
I get a lot more music to write, and if we can keep me sane and healthy, I'll do it.
Well, it's all a long con until the MAG Fest,
Mick Gordon reach around and blasts.
After that goes down.
Car trash.
Once that happens, get the fuck out of my life.
I'm done.
I'm done with you.
We need to destroy the car on stage somehow.
And, Sheena, you're mentioning that Spookies is going through some changes.
If anyone would want to help that project out, what can they do?
Well, currently, we're fighting the rhymes on Steam Greenlight.
The popularity contest.
Yeah, the basically, you know, you're in fucking high school,
middle school, and you've got to do this fucking popularity contest,
that's Steam Greenlight, and we're fighting that right now.
So if you, honestly, if you just go to Steam Greenlight,
and then just type in Spookies,
it's probably the first thing that's going to come up.
It usually is.
It usually is, yeah.
But we're trying to, I'm trying to remake it in the Unity engine,
just trying to get, like, vibe support and all this other stuff.
Characters are going to be remade into, like, 3D models.
We already have, like, a couple.
Yeah, they look great, like, all the screenshots I've seen so far.
Yeah, like, custom lighting engines and all this other crazy,
like, we're going all out.
Like, it's going to have actual, like, translations as well,
for, like, Spanish, Russian, Polish, and some other, like, German.
Yeah, and so, we're doing that.
There's going to be, oh, Steam trading cards and achievements,
because that's the thing that everybody's been screaming about,
like, finally getting that done, because we can,
because we're charging.
We're charging $10 for this one.
But it has all those cool features, plus more,
and we're also, as DLC is bundled,
secret thing I can't really talk about in full detail,
Spookies is actually getting merch.
Yeah, Spookies is getting merch.
Hopefully, it talks of maybe a couple shirts and a plush.
Well, that goes, but...
Well, she's a developer.
What if I want to play the original Spookies,
because I prefer that one for some reason.
Oh my God, if for some reason you want to play the original Spookies,
just like the best friends did, whoa!
You can go on to see him currently, and just like,
go, Spookies, jump scare mansion,
and it'll be right there in your face.
How much does it cost?
Free!
It's free!
Free Feddy?
Free 99.
It's, yeah, it's free and zero cents.
So you can pay for the new one if you want.
It's free dollars and zero cents.
You can get the new one if you want, it's for money,
but you can always play the original.
And that it'll stay forever.
Yo!
Nice.
And what I understand is the new one,
is it's another way that we can have Liam make in his pants,
seven minutes in or so.
Let's see if we can get that timer down.
I can't, I can't deal.
Let's cut that timer in half.
Let's get it down to like maybe three and a half.
I think you can get it just upon the first jump scare.
A noble cause.
Good.
Like, just the cardboard jump scare.
Especially with the VR and seeing this thing,
like, legitimately slide out.
That's the shitty thing now, is if I know the game supports VR,
I want to play it in VR.
And like, I'm playing the Resi 7 demo with all the updates,
and I'm like, this is too fucking scary.
I can't deal.
It's terrifying.
Yeah, Spookies is going to have this new,
this new version of Spookies is going to have a lot of crazy,
like, updated twist and turn stuff,
because the original game was done in Game Maker 8.
Yeah.
So like, couldn't really, we were limited,
because we were doing like ray casting, you know, doom shit.
So like, you know, you can't actually walk upstairs
and do all this other stuff.
So there's going to be like, crazy different things like that.
I don't want to give too much away,
but like, who knows?
Maybe some monsters are going to drop on your face.
So yeah, just hypothetically.
Hypothetically, a monster might jump on your face,
or if you hypothetically use an axe and smash a tank
that has a brain monster in it,
it might actually break and come get you.
Okay.
Maybe.
Maybe.
Maybe.
I'm not a problem.
I'm not a problem.
Green light game, Liam shits his pants.
Hypothetically.
That's a promise.
Hypothetically.
That's a promise.
There's gonna be hypothetical shit in my hypothetical pants.
Just a little bit of the game in progress,
and I can guarantee everyone playing this game
is going to scream like an infant.
Yeah.
Terrifying.
It's a really good game.
I usually fall asleep to that sound.
It's beautiful, you know?
Screaming infants.
It's one of my favorites.
Well now you can create the sound of yourself.
I know, I'm a little abrasive.
Wake up in the middle of the night.
Honey, put another infant in the grinder.
No, put on the infant's screaming CD.
Not the record on your gramophone.
There you go.
Place movies for me, baby.
Thanks so much for having us over, guys.
Absolutely.
Yeah, no, it's been really awesome.
It's been really good to be with us.
Yeah, man.
Thanks for having us on the podcast.
Right on.
I got to yell at you, really, which is always like...
I'll take it.
And you know what?
You got to the core issue,
which is absolutely time management,
and you're a thousand percent right.
Like, I won't even fight that.
Is this going on the internet?
This is going out there?
I will not fight that.
Like, that's the core issue.
You cut right...
This is not my alarm when I wake up in the morning.
Is that you are right, by the way.
You cut past the bullshit.
What caught me about you guys is that,
first of all, you fully disclose that you're paid
to play this game and you're just getting exposure
and just collaborating with the company, right?
But the thing that really struck me about you guys
and why I'm kind of on board with your operation here...
We met briefly before,
but today is the first real friend moment.
We were eating pizza in the kitchen,
and I was asking you about the game.
Was it actually fun?
Did you have to go to play this game?
Was it a chore?
And you were all like,
like, pretty complimentary about it.
You're like, yeah, it's really fun.
It's like a good game.
And I was like, wow.
Like, I usually hear people just shit-talking stuff
when they got to do it for work,
but you guys really take passion into it.
Oh, wait.
You mean, like, when we're out in the kitchen
before we record this podcast,
we said, yeah, the game's pretty good.
And then we came into this podcast and said,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right.
Because I'm not putting it on a front at all.
You guys are pretty good.
Unless we told you to say that right now.
That's a little biased, though, with Smokies, though.
It's funny.
A little bit.
He's close.
He's close.
He's right.
It's true.
He is close.
You have to be honest.
You're a little biased, man.
A little biased.
Yeah, yeah.
The best way to have it is to play games
that your friends make.
That's what the future we live in.
It's crazy.
Yeah, yeah.
That's true.
The filthy rich, like, the guy,
like the thing, community manager,
like the guy that set it up, he's pretty much
saying when we're walking back to the car,
he's like, when you're bringing you guys in as well,
like, that if you didn't like it, like, we're done.
We have a problem.
Because it's like, we would just be honest.
We would just straight up be like, eh,
you know, if that were the case.
But it's not, you know?
So yeah, the way we were, I like to think,
we're pretty straight up about the type of stuff.
Like to think.
Yeah, I like the mutual admiration thing.
Like, I contextualize this.
I explain it a lot of the time.
It's like, I'm one of Shovel Knight's millions of fans,
even though I worked on it.
And the creators of Shovel Knight are some of my,
I don't know, dozens of fans, you know?
Usually, it's that kind of like, you want each other,
each person wants the other to do well.
And, you know, that's just that kind of spirit is
powering everything we're doing lately.
Like, you know, both of us.
You guys see what it seems like, you know?
That's a podcast, man.
That's a podcast.
I'd say so.
Drop the mic stand.
Yeah.
And with that, like, don't, don't actually drop it.
No.
Play the music.
Let's do it.
Make sure that there's an awkward loop.
Savage crime, it was not yet her time
For whom the tower peels
One final morning shine
For the survivors
Speak to me
Before my fate is reckoned
Comfort me
They'll arrive at any second
Six o'clock
And I got no doubt
The King is out for blood
This is fun, your hands are on
Held in the spines
So, die tonight
There he is
Why is he on our block
Track him down
Make him bleed
We'll take him
We'll beat him down
Take him to the land
And swim
The demo
Go on
Oh, Maria
Caramia
Know that I stand against all us
Even though it feels so right
Forbidden is our love
Our families divided from above
Your brothers will see through the light
Tomorrow they won't ask why
Oh, Maria
Far away now
Will I ever see your smile
As night ends today
I beg you to stay
I'm down, down on Monday's hill
I'm the darkness
You're the starlight
And I'm burning up in you
My heart will die every day
When you hide away
I don't want to feel their rivalry
So even though they may discover us
I've never given you
And if they try to tell me what to do
I love her
I'll kill them
I'll kill them
Leave us alone
Come get me
Set me
Come cast us down
Star Cross lovers laughing at the truth
Easy fortune foolish in youth
After all is said and done
You'll both be on the run
And we'll find you
Just what was your plan
You arrogant man
To your mother
To your mother
In crucial
He was with us all
Showing to the door
Follow him, corner him
Murder him, beat him down
Beat him up, send him to his grave
Warrior
Break all off
We were never meant to live this life
And I will die sooner than see you gone
I'm gonna go down swinging
Here's our ringing
But I'm alive
He's still breathing
Take him dead
Take his life
Get a knife
Got him
I was up on my feet
Trill him
Trill him
Murder him
See one by one
They should be for me then
From the ground came the most awful sound
I saw them
Maria lined up
Our time was on
And let our red and red and red and red
Yeah
You're on the street
Now young Drake
On your feet
With his legs
Maria, now it's clear
Broken through the pain and the fear
Before too long
I'll be with you