Castle Super Beast - SBFC 176: Christmas of Gripes

Episode Date: December 20, 2016

Plague of Gripes joins us this holiday season, to teach us the true meaning of Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan. And creepy animal dick facts. You can watch us record the podcast live on twitch.tv/superb...estfriendsplay

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Here we go. I'm leaving now. It is kind of difficult to find those perpetrators in this city. That's a hot mic. That's a hot mic. That's a hot mic. So I should stop talking mad shit about that group of people. They deserve it.
Starting point is 00:00:42 At this point. I hate them so much. At this point. But we shouldn't. Really. There's been enough pieces of it. I hope they drown in a lake. There's been hot mic talk over the years that they can figure out who they are.
Starting point is 00:00:54 They should know. Them. Disgusting. I hope none of you are listening. Hey everybody. Welcome to the podcast. Matt is not here right now. He's taking a break from the channel for a bit.
Starting point is 00:01:05 If you want to know more details than that, go check out the subreddit. He made a big post explaining what's going on. He'll be back for RE7. So chill out. Alright. So what is today's podcast about, Willie? Today's podcast is about lack of sleep and therefore by proxy low energy and therefore by proxy Christmas.
Starting point is 00:01:25 Oh wow. What a coincidence. Can you repeat what you said to me when I asked you, hey Willie, did you get a lot of sleep last night? You look tired. Sleep is a distant dream at this point. That's rough. Bro.
Starting point is 00:01:38 Yeah. Seriously. You look like shit. Yeah. I remember I saw it two or three o'clock in the morning. There was no make man up at nine and there was no VR video up. And I was like, oh, yes, I should fix that and guess Willie's going to have to fix that too.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Yeah. And then this morning I saw they were both up. So I was like, yep, guess we didn't sleep much. No. But then there were some double mic problems. Oh my God, are there. We'll have to talk about that. We used the new recording setup for VR stuff with a clip mic and the sync is just wild.
Starting point is 00:02:09 It's a brutal sync. It makes no sense. I fixed it. But it took a lot of work. Yeah. Having odd sync issues despite the fact that you can hear the same lines at one point. Yeah. And then later it makes no sense.
Starting point is 00:02:21 It's time to shelf that system for a bit. Yeah. I got to close up the last video for that. Yeah. Yeah. And we're not doing that anymore. But it is Christmas, isn't it? Kind of.
Starting point is 00:02:33 And here, I do look like shit. When was Hanukkah? Someone tell me. I'm going to put them. What are you going to put? Does anyone know? Get the camera off me. Stickers.
Starting point is 00:02:41 There we go. Everyone was Hanukkah this year. I figured that one out. There we go. All right. We do it. I think the last Hanukkah was four years ago. Is that how they elect a new Hanukkah every four years?
Starting point is 00:02:52 Well, because it's on the year after leap years or something. Yeah. Hey, Plague, when was the last Hanukkah? Around the same time as Kwanzaa, I'm sure. Oh. Hanukkah this year is December 24th to January 1st. So they line up perfectly. The holidays.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Sounds about right. Yeah. Hi, Plague. How are you celebrating Kwanzaa? Never. He celebrates Barroween. I'm going to actively start going to people's houses and stopping Kwanzaa celebrations. Oh.
Starting point is 00:03:22 So. Big anti-Kwanzaa maybe. Harumby to that. Kwanzaa's already been doing a pretty good job of that. That is my... Oh, man. Oh, that is the best Boondocks clip of all. Harumby.
Starting point is 00:03:37 Yeah. Harumby. Just... And now it's the most appropriate for her. Yeah. Poor her. I thought it was Harumby. It is Harumby.
Starting point is 00:03:49 Okay. Oh, white people. Well, he's actually making a different... I get it. A different base. I get it. You see what happened there? I do see what happened there.
Starting point is 00:03:57 I see what happened there. Can I celebrate Kwanzaa? Of course. I mean. Just by myself. Just like squares and rectangles, it's a belief system. Yeah. I don't think anyone's going to try this.
Starting point is 00:04:06 They're not. Well, that's... Squares and rectangles. It's like the kind of thing you tell kids to make them comfortable. Santa Claus is real. Squares are real. Yeah. People will figure that out.
Starting point is 00:04:16 There's only certain shapes that are real. Squares are real. I'm holding a rectangle right now. It's my phone. Yeah, but don't scrutinize it too much because then you'll realize. Well, it does have the rounded edges. Yeah. There is that part of it.
Starting point is 00:04:24 But at the end of the day, like many belief systems, Santa is a belief system that we did end up discussing the points at which you stopped believing in them for further details, I guess. Check out the Mega Man LP. Mega Man. Whatever the newest episode. No, not even. Next episode?
Starting point is 00:04:42 I don't know. Yeah. Did we ever discuss how old is too old for Santa? Well, that's the thing is I came to the realization that I never actually had a moment where I believed in the Santa for real because my parents never actually backed that up. Well, no. I mean, your parents were the type that wouldn't let you play Diablo because it had the devil in it.
Starting point is 00:05:01 They're not going to tell you about fucking Santa. Exactly. Plus, every president had their names on it to say where they were coming from. Okay. That's what I never got. Why would you ever tell your kids about Santa? If I have kids, I want credit. That was me.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Yeah. That's not magical bullshit. I spent that money on your fucking transformer or whatever the fuck. I know with my parents, the idea was kind of there, but like it was never pushed in the same way with the naughty or nice thing because my mom felt that that would, that was terrible as a message. Really? Lower income families, like, you know, kids would get less presents.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Well, yeah, because they're not as good as rich families. At school, it might lead them to one. Yeah. That's a concern. Oh, hey, play. Bad kid. Hey, plague. I didn't know you were there.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Oh, didn't see you there because you're not here. Yeah. Shut up. Anyway. Anyway. So, yeah, I never got that 100% either. Did you ever believe? My family tried.
Starting point is 00:05:51 My family tried the whole Santa thing, but I was like, that sounds like bullshit. So I went to an encyclopedia and looked up Santa like that sounds like bullshit. Yeah. I showed them the article for St. Nicholas and the myth of Santa Claus is like, what does this say? And my mother just sighed. Was there was there a point? Well, like, how did you actually find out that it was all bullshit for real, real?
Starting point is 00:06:12 Like, at what point? What like what age? Yeah. You know, like a vague year gap. I don't think I ever even believed in Santa Claus. I just had this vague knowledge of, no, that's not real. I'll look it up because I lived in encyclopedias whenever I was a little bitty kid. There's always that, like, back of the head knowledge we're like, yeah, but he's not
Starting point is 00:06:32 really real. Like you kind up, but no, Liam, I want to, I want to grab on to your like your parent. Oh, what? Hold that thought. I'm holding it. What was that thought? All right. So I want to, I want to hop on the, the, the train of irony that Liam pointed out that,
Starting point is 00:06:49 you know, naughty and nice, good kids get more presents, poor kids suck shit, don't get no presents. And are like de facto bad kids. Now my parents are very nice people and they would never want to give that lesson, but they all, they unfortunately fucked up super hard and gave me that lesson super hard, like the evil one, because my brother and sister, my half brother and sister and their folks got divorced and it was my mom and dad that were currently married during my entire childhood and they still are.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Right. And my, uh, my, uh, my brother and sister's mom was not nearly as well off as mine, right? In terms of work, right? So the reality of that would end up being that I would get more presents than my brother and sister on Christmas. Good. And that really good kid. And that worked because my brother was a shit and, but my sister was a perfect angel and
Starting point is 00:07:44 it was tension. So I was all, well, I'm obviously the best of the children. So yeah, be careful with teaching your kids about the Santa because you might end up creating pack slippery slope. Yeah. Well, the real question is, is do parents still go through the, uh, the trouble of giving bad children coal? Cause that's the part that I give them iPads.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Yeah. I don't think I've ever heard of like the follow through on the bad side of things. And to be fair, the follow through in the past used to be the evil Santa would kidnap you and take you from your home. Yeah. Yeah. So also in stark contrast to you guys who didn't, the Santa bit really didn't latch in.
Starting point is 00:08:23 I was that stupid kid that was like, why would my parents ever lie to me? And I had, I learned about Santa in grade three, um, when I was eight, because I got sent home from school cause I punched a kid in the face cause he told me Santa wasn't real. Like, like real proper fist fight. Yeah. He's like, man, Santa's not real. Your parents are liars.
Starting point is 00:08:49 And I was like, you motherfucker, you take that back. He's like, nah. I punched his shit out. At age eight. I don't learn them. That's actually the, around the natural social order is time for you to kind of figure it out. Society will.
Starting point is 00:09:01 That's what we were kind of saying the other day. Yeah. Now had I not engaged in violence against a classmate, that may have gone on for quite a while. I was kind of hoping you were going to say you still believed her. I was like very gullible child before I became 34 years old and you're choking people on the street because they said certain shit about Santa. That happens.
Starting point is 00:09:23 That's real. I mean, there's videos of the guy that goes around like saying that, you know, the getting the Jesus back in Christmas means we're spoiling it. I saw that guy. I saw that guy and stuff like that. He's doing his best. He's doing. He's doing the, you know, the Harry Potter Snapekill Dumbledore bit, you know, but it's
Starting point is 00:09:40 not quite as funny. No, it's not as funny at all. Actually, everyone's on, on not his side, but I do think that what I was discussing with my friend about how like these, there's a family, I think that had an idea where they're like, we're going to create a natural end to the bit of Santa Claus by taking our kid out and explaining that Santa was us all along. And now you get to be in on it. So you get to pick somebody to sort of be a Santa too.
Starting point is 00:10:09 And that works a lot better in a few that person has younger simply. Sure, you know, but like you have a natural place where it comes to an end and then they're a part of it and the secret goes on and so on without ruining it for other people. And you, and you just, you, it's like more than not thought out at all when it comes to, you know, propagating lies on your children that they're supposed to eventually figure out. It's highlighter rules that once you become aware of the lie, you become part of the lie. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:36 You become Santa. Yeah. That makes sense. You too have to stone the child for the village's happiness. We're all set against the stones. That's what that's what Christmas is about. Those babies have trouble fighting back against your raw animal power. Well, eventually one will learn to overcome.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Yeah. And that's how you get the shittiest Superman comic of all time. Yeah. How is the holiday season treating you, Eli? Oh, it's just so magnificent. Is it snowy? It couldn't be better. It's snowy here?
Starting point is 00:11:08 Hell no. Why the fuck would it be? I don't know. I don't know. I've never been to Arkansas. It's, it's a mild chill, I assume, around these days. It doesn't snow much down here in Cuba. Wow, South America, huh?
Starting point is 00:11:25 I'm just going to keep going down until I wrap back around and I'm actually inside the apartment. Right, where we are. Yeah. Recording live from the studio. No, I guess I asked just because, you know, I was suddenly struck with an urge to, I guess, for the first time since I've moved out, go out and buy Christmas lights and put them up at the house and kind of have a bit of a, like, you know, Christmas-y holiday feeling
Starting point is 00:11:51 thing. Yeah. Bucking that Kwanzaa star. Yeah. Fuck that. You know? Yeah, I've never felt the urge for that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:59 I just, I don't know. I just kind of suddenly wanted to do it. That sounds like something that you're going to follow up with, I regret every bit of this decision. Like something really bad's going to happen every time. Like they're going to ignite. I mean, I've already put them up and they're there and it's happening and I enjoy walking around when it's late and like being like, ah, you know, everything's off.
Starting point is 00:12:19 You're going to leave that shit up all year because you're going to like the way it looks. I'm not opposed. I still have Happy Birthday up on the top of my wall. Yes, you do. Yes, you do. But, you know, it's movement. Soon it'll just be a fucking holiday festival at Woolie's place all year round. Happy Birthday, Jesus.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Yeah. Just put it, just a sticky note right under that. Happy Birthday, our Lord and Savior. Your brother in Christ. It's going to be a few sticky notes. I'm not opposed to mood lighting. In fact, some of my friends that have like pretty cool places have like, you know, just like a switch that's like, here's the fun lights.
Starting point is 00:12:54 I have built-in moon lighting during the winter at my apartment, which is the street lights are pretty close to my windows, so they reflect off the snow and create nice orange mood lighting. Which is kind of right. It's not the mood lighting of Roasters Chicken? No. Dude. Dude. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:13 I'd be into that. I'd be into the fucking neon red sign blasting through the fucking window. Oh, God. That'd be fucking great. Well, because it's a Christmas cast, I mean, you know, that means we usually just, we ended up taking some letters. So I picked out a few, but hey, who knows, maybe if you're fast enough, I can, I'll end up reading yours.
Starting point is 00:13:38 It'll come through now. As they come in hot. You know, who knows, right? I've got a lot to get through. Where would you send that fast letter, wooly? To superbestfriendcastatgmail.com. That's superbestfriendcastatgmail.com. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Yeah. So, I mean, I think, I don't, I've been leaving my Christmas lights on. Uh-huh. I don't- They are just indoors, right? Yeah. There's no, exactly. And there's no switch on them.
Starting point is 00:14:02 And I don't want to go around the house unplugging each one. So I assume they're good to go for the entire holiday season plugged in without ever plugging them out. So I have seen people have those things plugged in for years. Yeah. So you're, you're probably good. Right. That being said, those are explicitly out, what, are you using indoor or outdoor lights?
Starting point is 00:14:22 They're indoor lights. Okay. Because if you're using outdoor lights, you are like playing with fire. That's a fire. Fire has to be real. You're fucking pushing it here. Yeah. No.
Starting point is 00:14:31 But lights can last a long time. Uh, plague. That's a good quote. Do you know anything about that? Christmas lights? About how- Do you put Christmas lights on the animals? Happiness?
Starting point is 00:14:41 No. Oh. About lights lasting a long time? Hell no, Wally. Wally, who do you think you're talking to here? The guy who- There's no joy in Kentucky. The guy who told me how long the longest light bulb in the world has been running for?
Starting point is 00:14:58 Well, technically, it's not the longest light bulb in the world. It's the longest battery in the world. And it just so happens to have run for... Uh-huh. Give me a second. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Hang on.
Starting point is 00:15:11 It just so happens to have been running for- He's just pulling this back down his head. Oh, look. We're a little at a meter or at least something. It has just so happened to have been running for 34 years. That's right. 34 years. No, I'm full of shit.
Starting point is 00:15:27 It's actually been running for however many- Oh, cool. There's a new half in the bag. There you go. Thanks for letting me know. 176. It's unbelievably terrible at just... Or maybe he's nose diving the bit.
Starting point is 00:15:39 Yeah, maybe. Plague does not do a lot of live content. I respect the nose diving of the bit. Plague, you do all pre-recorded stuff mainly, right? He was trying to say 176 years. No, I stream a bit. Oh, he does? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:54 Uh-huh. I start... Here's what... I don't know if you guys do this. I start recording and then I say, now this is terrible. I'm starting over after like 10 seconds. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:16:05 And I'll do that about a minute. Yeah. Like a full minute of that before it's like, okay, I hit it and then I'll just go for the next three hours. Occasionally, we'll record for like three or four hours and be like, oh, this is terrible. And then you just leave it in. But yes, I did nose dive a little bit.
Starting point is 00:16:19 Then pull back. I decided the nose dive. I respect it. I respect it. And I appreciate that, you know, you will try to crash the plane when invited onto it. Given the opportunity. Well, so especially if someone points out,
Starting point is 00:16:32 hey, you're nose diving the plane. Okay, fuck you. We're going to the ground. Yes, I am. Are you like that? Are you playing with your Christmas Benoit over there, Pat? Yeah, I'm playing with my Christmas Benoit. I found a Christmas Benoit on my chair.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Yeah, the red pants really make him Christmasy. What kind of presents does he wrap up? He full of... Jericho? That's the best I could do. That's the best I could do. Yeah, okay. Here's Y2J for Christmas.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Christmas Benoit reads from his crazy Bible. Put out your milk and cookies and go to sleep. And Santa... Never wake up again. Oh. Hey, all right. So, family murder. You know, I think...
Starting point is 00:17:17 Christmas. We can start, I guess, kind of going into weeks because... It's beginning. Why are we going to do that Westworld spoiler cast? Oh, God. Well, I don't know. Might as well be today, right? Might as well be today at the end of today's podcast.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Okay. All right. Stay tuned to the end of today's podcast. And maybe we can get in a little Danganronpa talk. No, not today. Okay. All right. Unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:17:45 No Dutch and Grandpa today. I'll take it away because I didn't do shit this week. Sure. I played a bunch of FF15 on stream. That game is a ton of fun. It reminds me... Did you guys play... I know Woolly didn't play Dragon's Dogma.
Starting point is 00:17:58 No. Lane, did you play Dragon's Dogma? A bit. Not a lot. It reminds me so much. Thank you, Plague. You didn't ask. You piece of...
Starting point is 00:18:06 I forgot you were here, you bald fuck. I'm bald also. I shaved my head. Really? It's by choice. Oh, it's by choice. Oh, fuck. It's a style.
Starting point is 00:18:16 FF15 reminds me a lot of Dragon's Dogma, but instead of the mechanics being like rock solid, like polish on that, it's the breath of content. It's every single thing I look at, Prompto or Ignis or Gladiolus has something to say. Every single... Which game are you talking about? FF15.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Okay, not Dragon's Dogma. Not Dragon's Dogma. No. Because the Dogma has the same sort of problem. Yeah, no, no, no. Benefit. It has the opposite problem, okay? Dragon's Dogma has the fucking problem where it's like the road splits up ahead.
Starting point is 00:18:49 We must make doubly sure of where it leads, and wolves attack and packs are risen, and every fucking voice clip that everyone remembers, because they only have like 35 lines. FF15 has a fucking explosion of dialogue on every action. It's ridiculous. No, the breadth of it is insane. Like you don't...
Starting point is 00:19:09 At the same time. There are some repeat lines, obviously. Aha! I've got it. But like... What's that? I've come up with a new recipe. Well, that one's a good one.
Starting point is 00:19:17 I like that one repeating. Yeah, they're always saying new things. Every side quest and location I went to, they had something to say. Yeah. And including returning to old locations. That's awesome. Like it's...
Starting point is 00:19:30 Oh, really? Yes. It's really awesome. Like I ran around Goblin Key, apparently that's how you pronounce it. Key, yeah. A bunch of times, and was not able to trigger the romantic line
Starting point is 00:19:41 where they're all like, Haha, what a romantic place, and you're spending it with us. Instead I got other different dialogue. Probably because it didn't show up there at night. That game's a blast. That game's a fucking blast. I'm still not sure about what triggers the sort of like,
Starting point is 00:19:55 let's sit on the roof and have a personal moment kind of conversation that I had with... Prompto. Yeah, with Prompto. And I was like, was it just going to stay at this particular inn? Yeah, right place, right time. The answer to that is yes.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Like all the places that you rest have something going on. Like I slept near Goblin Key, and Gladio was like, hey man, let's have a little minigame run. Let's go run. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's go have a run.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Exactly. And still be lazy. And you want to run behind him so you can stare at his disgusting glutes. They're offensive. Gladio. Ben at Sickville. Gladio makes me glad.
Starting point is 00:20:36 It's like, who do you want to take more pictures? Gladio is a little glad. Glad, Gladio. Okay, Prompto keeps taking these pictures of Ignis, just standing around. And I'm getting super fucking pissed. I'm getting so pissed. I asked him to take more pictures of Ignis,
Starting point is 00:20:51 and I was like, yeah, but more good pictures of Ignis. Yeah, exactly. Wait until you unlock the ability to take selfies. I made that decision and was like, use your own discretion pretty early. Can I change that? Can I change that?
Starting point is 00:21:06 I don't know. He's going to ask you one. Okay, thank you. He's going to ask you one. The answer is take photos of Gladio. This is butthole. But that would require you to drive and not fasten. All in there.
Starting point is 00:21:17 I drive everywhere. This is a Final Fantasy game? Yeah, I know, right? Tell me something about this game, because normally whenever I hear about it, people are talking about the interactions that they have on a personal level with the cast. It's the best Ninja Turtles game made in years.
Starting point is 00:21:31 Ever. Okay, so it's sort of like a friend simulator. Kind of. So you start with your party of four. You get to watch these guys be friends together. You start with your party of four immediately. You don't build the party as the story goes in that same way. You have the set group and they have a dynamic
Starting point is 00:21:46 and it's pretty much like you have fun watching that dynamic unfold. So I got to watch Kingsglaive and Brotherhood before I played the FF-15. Did you guys watch those? Yeah, Brotherhood's alright and I haven't watched Kingsglaive because I know there's a spoiler in it that requires you to be a certain distance
Starting point is 00:22:06 for it to not be a spoiler or anything more. I played, what do you call it? I watched both of them beforehand. What do you think of Brotherhood? Brotherhood is solid. That is a solid miniseries that just is nothing. It's about just the characters. Here's who they are.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Vladiollus is big and strong but he hated Noctis when he was young because he was a bitch. Here's his sister so she doesn't just show up out of nowhere in the game. I assume that. They established that too? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:35 Because she does kind of just show up out of nowhere in the game. Kingsglaive however, Kingsglaive That's Final Fantasy movie? Is a piece of shit. Nice. Oh, nice. Kingsglaive is Advent Children with characters you don't know or care about.
Starting point is 00:22:50 And much like Advent Children, it is kind of nonsense for two-thirds of the movie and then engages in the most balls to the wall gravity-defying action scene for like half an hour that you've ever seen. Well that's... With characters that you... That you don't know and don't care about. I see.
Starting point is 00:23:08 That is exactly what I would expect from you. Now, the first half or more of the movie is really confusing. Like... Just hard to follow. It almost feels like they expected you to have played 15 beforehand to know who these people are. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:24 It's fucking weird. Like, there are so many things that are not said as to where these characters are from. What is going on with the city? What is the wall? What... Shit like that. There are weird cameos.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Diamond Weapon and Ultros feature prominently in that game. Sorry, in that movie. Super weird. But that action scene at the end that just goes and goes and goes and goes and goes is awesome. The biggest problem is they keep telling you, man, Luna Freya, she's so important.
Starting point is 00:23:51 She's so important. We gotta protect Luna Freya. But they never, ever, ever, ever tell you why Luna Freya is important. She's important. Okay, when I played 15 and they mentioned she's the oracle, that's the first time I heard about it.
Starting point is 00:24:06 It's not mentioned in that movie, which feels like that would have been an important piece of information. Also, you could also totally miss extra details about being an oracle if you don't listen to the radio. Also, Liam, that spoiler for... Oh yeah, what's the chapter count on that?
Starting point is 00:24:22 One. Oh yeah? Oh. Okay. So, the cast is really good. They're voiced by a lot of prominent voice actors. He just, the king, is voiced by Sean Bean. So he does the Sean Bean thing.
Starting point is 00:24:38 So you're good. I thought there was a character who took off his helmet and that reveal was a spoiler. Is that a spoiler? I only, because that's what I read, is a character takes off a helmet and seeing his face as a spoiler for the game. What about...
Starting point is 00:24:53 That would be a spoiler to me, because that character shouldn't be around anymore. What about Lena Headley? She's fine. Okay. She's good. The Mr. Paul, Aaron Paul, playing Nick's arch-tourist or whatever the fuck.
Starting point is 00:25:08 Yeah, he's the protagonist. He does a decent job with the weird material he's given. It's very weird. But there's a lot of shiny fight bangs and Gurren Lagan style shit in there. Aaron Paul and a fantasy style. So, it's a fun watch if you can get... Like, the worst thing about Kings Grave is
Starting point is 00:25:24 it's the kind of movie that if you walk out halfway through, because it sucks, you miss the best part of the movie. Because it's all... Because it's all back-loaded. It's all back-loaded. It's all back-loaded. Like Tekken? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:36 Faded Retribution. Faded Retribution. And Tekken. How long has the idea for 15 been around? Because it didn't develop out of Versus... Versus 13? Or... Over a decade.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Over a decade. The idea. Okay. Was that the same story, though? No. Okay, so this is the weird thing. If you go back... This is what I'm thinking.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Do you remember the original gameplay trailer for 15? The very... No, for 13 Versus. The first gameplay one. Yes, yes. What you're seeing there is what I believe to be what if Noctis was around during Kings Grave and did all the Kings Grave stuff before going out into the wider world.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Like, the Kings Grave is the Midgar kind of section of the game. The other thing that's really bizarre about Kings Grave is that I played up until the point of the game where Kings Grave just happened. Yeah. It's done now. And it's really awful. It's understated in game as to what occurs. Kings Grave takes place during...
Starting point is 00:26:33 Kings Grave? Okay. Do you remember early in the game where you have to stay at that nice hotel? Yeah. Kings Grave happens. Those CG cutscenes are just Kings Grave. Yeah. It's fucking...
Starting point is 00:26:43 It's weird. It's like, I really like the game. It's so weird. It's awful. Like, the storytelling... Honestly, me and my girlfriend were playing it and we came to the decision that like, if those CG cutscenes were not there, it would have actually made more sense. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Because they would just read the paper and then go, oh, what happened? So the problem with Kings Grave and the problem with FF15 and the way that it's presented is that you... At some point, you go, oh, Kings Grave happened. We better go check out what happened. Yeah. And you get stopped at the border and you can't see and you see smoke in the distance. And they're like, oh, the city has fallen is the phrase that's used in English.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Yeah. Okay. My girlfriend pointed out to me, it's a Team America quote, the city did not fall. Kings Grave is 9-11 times a thousand. Like, that city, spoilers for this shitty movie, is reduced to dirt. It is absolutely annihilated. But the game doesn't, like, even imply that. Oh, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:27:39 They don't know it at all. I don't know right now, even, like, because we're out of the border and we're just like, doing our other shit, dicking around. I'm talking like... We don't know how bad it actually is. I'm talking like... Like, flattened. Higher than Godzilla levels of destruction.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Right. Okay. That little CG shot from that FMV that I thought was just the game. Yeah, I know that. Where you see cities, like, getting wrecked by airships and stuff. You see, you see, like, city is a beach now. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:06 You see Diamond Weapon in that little CG part, right? Yeah. And you're like, oh, cool. What you don't see is that there are 12 Diamond Weapons attacking the city all at once. Wow. Okay. Like, and that, like, I feel more confused by having watched the Lorth movie. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:23 It's super weird. I'm saving that all for afterwards. Okay. So, thoughts on 15. This, I can tell right away. This story is going to get bad and there are going to be big plot holes. Yeah. Because, like, the feeling of like, let's plug these holes with extra expanded universe things
Starting point is 00:28:39 and the talk of like, we're going to add more cutscenes to the game to make plot holes make sense. Just the way the story is coming out over time in the game, you just... Weird. It's disjointed and it... But... Yeah. 25% of my time has had nothing to do with the story of Noctis the King. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:57 It has been Road Trip My Stupid Bros. Yeah. And the Road Trip With Your Stupid Bro game is fucking awesome. Yeah. It's one of the best games I've played all year. Because those bros are idiots. It kind of makes me think that Kingslave and like everything that is written for the game and for the movie was sort of just barely developed beforehand.
Starting point is 00:29:18 The reason why the two don't really sync up is probably because they were handled by different teams or something. But there was something behind the scenes like that. It feels like Kingslave was the first part of the game and it got cut out so that most of the game could be open world. Yeah. It makes me wonder because like obviously I'm not super late in the game. Maybe I'm crazy. But like there's a lot of old scenes from versus 13 footage where like Noctis is in a bar with what's her face. I forget her name.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Not Luna Freya, the previous blonde girl who got removed from the game. No, no, who got removed from the game. Oh my God. That's so confusing. I always forget her fucking name. Well, so did the game. Like there's a lot and again maybe the end of the game is not city. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:29:59 I'm not there yet. But like and also the decision to use Kingslave footage in the game. Weird. Like it makes you wonder where they like OK we want to have nice CG cut scenes may as well make a movie. Or was it like we're cutting so much story. Let's make a movie and also use it as CG cut scenes. And this doesn't even like get into the whole like the anime which is like all the character intros that are just not in the game. Which in a normal game you would have gotten to an hour and would have gotten prompt us back story in in game engine.
Starting point is 00:30:30 And it also omits the drama CD which the which the English version has a write up an English script you can read. And it's nothing and it's like is there. Is there content in the beat them up to. Probably. Haven't played it yet. Well no like someone someone sent us a code and I'm sure we'll check that out. It's so it's really obvious that the game stinks of being like slapping together huge amounts of work that were already just slashed to bits though. And it reminds me kind of of Randy Pitchford talking about Duke Nukem forever where he's like well we did the best we could with the assets we had.
Starting point is 00:31:11 And they had this giant fucking open world and they focused on shoring up all this dialogue and fixing all these hunts and stuff like that so it'd be a fun open world game. But like they would have had to make like in order to get the story perfect or like a classic Final Fantasy I feel like they would have had to make a whole nother game again like another two years to like make a proper storyline. Kind of sounds like I had a similar problem the Phantom Pain. Yes. A lot of loss like that. You know and the director was removed and stuff you know. Yeah I guess I guess there are similarities. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:47 Would you would you suggest like actually going into that stuff like right now in the middle of the playthrough. Yes. The anime a hundred percent. The anime is I would consider vital watching. It has no plot elements whatsoever. It is just like here is back story back story on Prompto Ignis Ladiolus and a little bit on Noctis. Sure. Which makes him more because at the start of the game he's kind of unlikeable and then about an hour or two in of the story he's much more likeable when he's making his stupid puns.
Starting point is 00:32:17 But in this way he starts a little more likeable right away. Yeah. No the show like one of the very early scenes I'll just go ahead is like they're at a restaurant and he's picking the vegetables off his burger and you really get a sense for his personality like right away. He's picking all the vegetables off his burger. Yeah. Okay. Totally. And it's not like a great show.
Starting point is 00:32:37 And he's put and he's put their 10 minute episodes and there's only like five or six of them. And he's putting them on Ignis's burger I think. Something like that. It's super weird. Yeah. It's it's you should watch the anime just now now immediately because it'll it'll only add to your experience. Now as for Kings Glaive I would say if you don't watch Kings Glaive right before the the game because depending on how much you dick around you can get to the point. You can get to the part where Kings Glaive happens in that story in like 45 minutes like.
Starting point is 00:33:03 It's right. It's pretty media. Yeah. You should watch it after that cut scene. Yeah. Well I'm way beyond that. So you should watch it because it's important because they say this character died. This thing happened in the city.
Starting point is 00:33:19 This this is why Luna Frey is walking down a road by herself like a weirdo and it's kind of like it's I really don't feel like it's going to be important going forward. In the story at all. But it's it's like it's such a massive part of the backstory that it is baffling to me that it is not incorporated properly into the game. The contents of that are like the whole thing that sets off. You like driving right now. Oh that's a noise. Yeah yeah I'm driving. That's what's happening.
Starting point is 00:33:49 Yeah. Okay. Yeah that's what sets off like it's the spike of the adventure. So yeah that's a weird one. Okay. Yeah. It sets off the spike of the adventure because the characters don't know about it until after the adventure started. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:04 Yeah. And you only find out about it I totally agree in that stilted way. So here's the weirdest part about it at all and it's the it's the it's why I think that that part was slammed in there at the last second. The way that it works is you're staying at a hotel and everyone's like we're waking up. This is really early in 15 guys don't worry about it and like first fifth of the game. Not even. If not earlier. It's chapter one.
Starting point is 00:34:29 It's the end of chapter one of 15. Oh yeah that's right when the first chapter. And Ignis comes out and he's like bummed out and like what and he has a newspaper in his hand and the newspaper says the city has fallen right. And then they but right before that they cut to shots of Kingsglave all over the place and they talk about oh what happened at the city blah blah. And it's awkward and it's jarring and all I can think of is like all they would have had to do is have a different scene in which they're having breakfast at the bar. And they look up and the news is on because TVs exist and the news is real. Well the radio was giving details and they just see shots from Kingsglave as if it were a news broadcast and that would be so much more organic and normal and you wouldn't have that hard cut. Personally like I would have really preferred if they had just gotten the newspaper and the first look you get at the city is that when you go to the cliff.
Starting point is 00:35:21 And then when the guy calls you on the phone and it fades to black and then you see the Kingsglave cut scenes. If even at all. Now I know we're all amateurs and like I don't make games but these seem like really obvious changes so that you could make. There was radio discussion that you listen to of like what's happening in the news whether it happens right away or on your way there driving I forget. But I do remember that you got to catch the details of what was going on through that device. But yeah I feel that like even if they didn't do what you just described and they had what they had in the game without that weird jump into footage of movie which I guess I didn't know was footage of movie. Yeah which set my expectations if you didn't know you would know. Yeah and it set my expectations up for like I guess something of another Final Fantasy expectation expectation of I'm going to hit another chapter in the game or another big expensive cut scenes going to drop.
Starting point is 00:36:16 Nope. No that's from the that's from the like final half an hour big fight thing right. Yeah and within like it shows a big fight between the king and the other guy within like two more hours of pure story gameplay. There's nothing like history and that's never going to happen again. That's fucking weird. Maybe the ending at least. One of the one of the weirdest things is that you run into a character from Kingslave in the story really early and his design is not what it is in Kingsclay. Well it's like Luna Freya right where you look at her and you're like that's not your face is wrong.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Yes what happened because in the in Kingsclay they made that pink hair guy really hit you good look like the actors. Yeah. But they didn't translate back into the game. Right. So in Kingsclay and in the clip cut scenes you see in the game he looks just like Sean Bean. Old Sean Bean but he doesn't look like that the first time you see him in the game. This game is weird and I feel very strongly that is very much like MGS five where I'm it's it's a lot of internal meddling. There's a lot of internal meddling.
Starting point is 00:37:19 There's a lot of grabbing different pieces. The director got pulled like Liam said I completely forgot that happened. But the difference is that Final Fantasy 15 is not like the next saga in a long running story that is really emotionally invested in. And also the equivalent of that would be like if the story of you and your mother base bros was like 95% of the game and had tons of cut scenes and tons of awesome moments. And not base management. And not just base management with like one cut scene where quiet prances around in the way. Let me ask you this. There's been apparently a lot of I don't know the politics of it but there's been apparently a lot of restructuring within their company ever since the debacles of 13 and so on.
Starting point is 00:38:03 So how big of a step up is all this you know flaws and all from 13 massive you know. Okay. I mean like in terms of like. Game play and and gameplay is way better obviously and like world design is way better. Well because it's 1313 does have like incredible strength. Like music and visuals and present the presentation and 13 is no one's ever really lambasted their basic but like at least the story is comprehensible if fucked. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:35 No the 15 story so far is bad but fine and I can understand it. Whereas the 13 story is a jargon filled mess. You have to fucking. It's interesting once you get what's going on but you won't get it by the end of the game. The question to tell literally every part of the story out of order in flashbacks is totally battling. Crazy is 13 to and 13 three equally as linear. Let's not even talk about that 13 threes. No they're not equally as linear at all.
Starting point is 00:39:00 That was like the main thing they wanted to fix 13 two is more linear than 13 three which is like 13 threes. Crazy 13 three is kind of like Assassin's Creed lightning returns is like a good game like it's good dude. It's runs a bit poor but like it's really satisfying and it's got its own thing going on entirely and it's like you can play it standalone as well. So how I don't like how fantasies like perpetually young though in the sequels. Yeah well that's weird how good is 16 going to be them. I have I have a lot of faith in 16 because watching is it Tabata. Yeah had you made Tabata Tabata feels like another Yoshi P where it's somebody they brought in and was like fucking fix this mess. Yeah and what came out is astonishingly good despite its continuing flaws.
Starting point is 00:39:49 I have a lot of faith for 16 honestly. The thing that I'm most excited about with 15 coming out is that 16 can maybe mean me and Liam. I think you made the joke like a year and a half ago that you don't give a fuck about 15 but you're really excited for 16. I'm really excited for 16 because at this point it's been a decade of this was the next one. Yeah at least this is it's a step. Yeah made up. Up or down it is a step. Yeah I mean at least they can look at the company again and not just like think that they're they're they're
Starting point is 00:40:23 what's it called their tentpole titles you know like Dragon Quest it was like okay you made nine and it was it was you know whatever it was good but it was like it was that that DS game that wasn't the best Dragon Quest with like most iconic characters or anything and then 10 was an MMO and then Final Fantasy 11 was an MMO. 11. No Dragon Quest Dragon Quest 10 was an MMO yeah and then no DQ 11 until recently and then Final Fantasy was like the mire that was 13 and then type zero and then nothing. Well it's like Final Fantasy has had like issues of meddling and directorial control and bloat for ever. Yeah the last game that came out without any like developmental issue was 10.
Starting point is 00:41:10 Like 11 was an MMO and that was pretty successful and decent. 12 had the Matsuno problem which everybody knows about where the him and the company argued and argued like it was good but 13 is known as itself and then the the as Liam described it pretty accurately the mire that was 13's continued existence. They're better but they're not 14 was like the largest disaster ever for the company and it had to rebirth that round and then 13 versus slash 15 got dragged down into development L for years and years and years. Yeah like I would be really really excited for a game that they started to make and then they made it and then it came out. It's just nice to look at Square Enix now for me and be like OK there's Dragon Quest 11 FF 15's out the door FF 7 is coming and another Final Fantasy will hopefully be forthcoming on the way forthcoming.
Starting point is 00:42:03 It would be nice if they would just develop a game. It would be nice if they if they just had they just developed a game. Don't worry about the anime tie in don't worry about the expansions don't like just have a game and have it just be that. OK but I really like your noodles. I really like the cup noodles tie in the excitement for a new setting introduction is exciting. I agree with that. Was that it the one thing I'll say about it. I have not played 15 but I will say that probably the best thing that you can do in your writing is not focus on the overall nonsensical plot
Starting point is 00:42:41 especially if it's a JRPG whatever is focused on the relationship between your characters and from what I can tell that is the immense strength of 15. That's the game. The game like after it's really cool opening pretty much immediately cuts to playing a great cover of Stand By Me. Yeah. So yeah look no further. They're not strong. That more than anything else whether it's a game or a story or a film people usually come back to things for that like Star Wars.
Starting point is 00:43:09 It's a safe linchpin that'll work. Yeah because people get attached to their fictional friends. I really like to say though that they're lucky that they nailed those characters because if even one of them was bad that game would be trash. Yeah but they all come together. Yeah. If it was not those guys plus Kate Sith was also there. Well like Ignis is annoying to me but in that lovable way where I'm like I'm like hey Ignis let me drive and he goes no and makes me get out of the car. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:47 Right. Right. And I'm like you fucking motherfucker. He cares though. He cares. He's just driving all cool and shit. No but you don't want Pucci sitting in the back seat between the two guys. I mean you take Pucci himself but not an equivalent Pucci.
Starting point is 00:44:01 Yeah. It's a good game. It makes me think that 7R might be okay. Yep. The other thing is that I'm hyper sensitive to this kind of thing so if you watch the Digital Foundry stuff and discovered that the frame pacing has issues on the PlayStation 4 Pro with this game. The frame pacing issues are I wouldn't say exaggerated but they are very minor. They are considerably less jarring than Bloodborne's for example. But like your last update on this was you were going to wait.
Starting point is 00:44:37 And then I got tired of waiting. Yeah. And I was right to get tired of waiting because that December Pro patch is not going to be in December. Yeah. Because they announced the holiday patch for the 22nd and there is no talk about performance shit in there. Yeah. But I'm also playing it on Pro and I heard that the performance was dodgy. Spotty.
Starting point is 00:44:56 And when I, yeah spotty that's the word. And when I put it on the whatever mode, the high mode. Oh you put it on the high mode? I was like this is fine. This is better than on a vanilla PS4 in the first place. And the image quality is really nice so I'm happy enough with that. I'm pretty happy with my light mode. It's a very solid 30.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Yeah. Absolutely. Minor frame pacing issues. You're saying also Bit of Last Guardian. Bit of Last Guardian. That game's good. I haven't touched it yet but I'm excited. I played a lot less of it than I expected because I kind of, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:45:30 I've been waiting for that game for so long. We all have. Ten years. And I feel weird playing it. Like it's not the game. It's not the tone. It's not the gameplay. It's you.
Starting point is 00:45:40 It's me. I feel scared to like continue. Okay. Because I'm afraid to hit a part that sucks. You know and it is, I haven't touched it yet but it is really reassuring to hear from everyone that like the ending is tremendous and stuff like that. I played it for about two and a half hours. That's good. I didn't catch any of that stuff.
Starting point is 00:46:00 Yeah. I didn't want to. I don't want to know any details. No, no, no. But I like, I did hear some people saying like, don't worry. Game's great. Game's just great. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:10 All right. Besides a little like, oh, Trico doesn't listen. Well, that's the point. But yeah. But like the inflation of how good you expect this to be after fucking forever. And like also expecting the jump up from eco to shadow to see that jump again. You know what I mean? You can't help but have massively bloated expectations here.
Starting point is 00:46:30 Well, for me, it's like, what if Yorda, what if you liked Yorda? Because Yorda's a giant 100 foot tall myth dragon. Trico, I hate, I hate, this is a problem. Both of these games have this problem where the character's names are wrong and it drives me crazy. And I don't know if that makes me a huge weeaboo or what. Cindy's name is Sidney. Her name is Sidney. It was reported as Sidney forever until all of a sudden it became Cindy.
Starting point is 00:47:00 And in the credits, apparently it goes Cindy slash Sidney. Sidney's already a girl's name. Yeah. That is like, what the fuck? That didn't need that. It's kind of Ashley. It's kind of in between. And the other thing is that it is driving me crazy that the subtitles in Last Guardian
Starting point is 00:47:20 call him Trico. And I get that that's like the pun for Niko Trico. But the original pun was, and you can hear it in the game when your character says his name, is it's Toriko, which apparently means eagle, and that's a pun on it. But it wouldn't bother me if the character didn't still say Toriko. He says it. I can hear you. It's really clear.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Yeah. But it's also not supposed to be Japanese or anything. Whatever. He's saying it. It's supposed to be made up language. I can hear it. These worlds. You're upset that the standing on Crunchyroll does not match up.
Starting point is 00:48:00 This sense. No, I love that. That's better. That's the surface. Oh, that's the best. Show off. Game looks great. Shining time.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Play is great. There are a couple parts where the king chugs to fuck. On your pro. Yeah. Because my pro is running in 4k. So the game is just that poorly optimized. No, it's not that the game isn't optimized. It's that the grass isn't optimized.
Starting point is 00:48:27 Every time they're like, hey, let's put a fuck ton of grass. You're like, chug. Optimize your game. It's 100% the grass. Every time there's grass, it happens. Optimize your game. But every time there's grass, you don't have anything to do. You just have to look at stuff.
Starting point is 00:48:41 I've only so far had one problem with telling Toriko what to do. And that is there are areas in which what you're supposed to do is go to a wall, hit the wall, hop on Toriko, and he'll hop the wall. It's not clear that that's what you're supposed to do. It just looks like I'm in a room. Because the wall is really high. The wall is really high. There's a forested U-shaped room very early in the game that everyone who's played the
Starting point is 00:49:04 game will remember because they probably had this happen to them. Okay. In which the only thing to do for it is run. And so your character hits the wall. Like goes, I can't get through. And then Toriko will be right behind you. And then if you call him or yell at him, he'll actually leap over himself. So you have to get on him before he does it.
Starting point is 00:49:23 But up until that point, I was baffled. It's the introduction of that new mechanic, but there's no signposting to tell you. Can you move the camera up high enough to see? You can see there's a hole. Okay. But it is like eight stories high. It's so high. Why would I think that I could get up there?
Starting point is 00:49:41 Okay. And everything up until that point in the game is like climbing. Everything is I would climb up there instead, or I would hop off Toriko to climb up something. But aside from that game school, music's really cool. It better be. Yeah, exactly. This more than FF15 is like, it better be, right? And there are interactions very early on in the game with the bird dragon that I did not
Starting point is 00:50:07 expect. Cool. Like, I don't know what I was expecting. Kind of thing, because it's been so long, but it's the kind of thing where it's like, well, it's going to be you and the kid and having a cool ass adventure. And then with the very first mechanic is something that I was confused by. And then later on, there's a second storyline based mechanic that I was like, oh, okay. It's surprising.
Starting point is 00:50:31 Toriko has to be Ignis Prompto and Glad, all in one. Yeah. Yeah. He's just a dog cat. And he's really cute. But he can't fly. And feathers. The beak's superfluous.
Starting point is 00:50:43 Feather dragon. The feathers are for grabbing. Feather, even a feather sore. He's a feather dinosaur. The biggest question I've had about the game that people have been either hesitant to answer or have said, no, no, no, no, has been how much of it is the controls are bad versus it's a dog cat thing that doesn't want to listen to you. I have not had any problem with the controls and I've only had very minor issues with Toriko
Starting point is 00:51:10 not wanting to listen. Usually whenever I see people complaining about it, it's because they're standing up on top of his head, just mashing the button, like do it, do it, do it. You're not giving the game any time to register anything. So that seems to be, I read some of those comments, that seems to be the number one issue with people's control problems is that they are telling him to do something and they're like, he's not doing it fast enough and so they mash it again and that gives him a different command.
Starting point is 00:51:37 They're not treating him like an animal. They're treating him like he's a car. And it's like, no, you have to treat him like he is a living creature and if you act as if he is a living creature, the game flows pretty nicely, but if you act like he's a goddamn video game monster, you might have serious control problems. Or a mount. Or a mount. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:56 Okay. That's cool. That's pretty much it, aside from finishing Westworld over here. Fuck! That is a good show. Westworld is a good show. There's a good television show. There's some problems, but it's a good show.
Starting point is 00:52:06 I'd say there's a problem. I don't know what that is. Oh, have you not seen it? I don't even know what it is. He lives it, man. I've never heard of it. The world of West, okay. I've heard of Westworld.
Starting point is 00:52:18 If anyone in my life had to be a host, it would be plague. Yep. I think that much is clear. Don't show them a photo. It might freak them out. Yeah. A host of what? Don't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:52:33 It would look like nothing to you. You've got maybe an hour and a half plague to go watch all of Westworld right now. Which is 11 and a half hours. 11 and a half hours. You guys just tell me what it is later. It's a show about robots. It'll be fine. It's a cool Western-themed sci-fi show.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Yeah, it's Mega Man. Come to HBO. Lilliam, how's your week? It was good. Finally, get to live back in Montreal instead of going to California every week. That's a nice one. That's a nice one. Anaheim sucks, by the way.
Starting point is 00:53:03 I like to PSX a lot, but Anaheim sucks. I know that's two weeks back, but I can't get over it. Suck in Mighty Ducks. Excuse me? It's the armpit of America. Wow. I've heard people say. Multiple places claim to be the armpit of America.
Starting point is 00:53:15 It's got a lot of arms in all fairness. America spends most of their money on arms. Well, thank you. It makes sense. You've done a lot. A lot of pits. Lilliam, you're going to want to tilt a little bit. The mic is completely covering your face.
Starting point is 00:53:30 That's fine. It doesn't matter. Go on. Here for the voice. Yeah, I played FF-15 a lot. Super enjoyable. The only thing I don't really love in the game is your mobility options are really binary and limited.
Starting point is 00:53:48 I get not wanting to get the car off-road, but following the tracks of the road is boring sometimes. That's what Chocobos are for, but I haven't unlocked it yet. Yeah. The Chocobos really fix that where you can go off-road fast and you rent the Chocobos. The Chocobos really fix that a lot, but for the period of time before you get Chocobos, running places is sometimes tenuous because the distances are big. Then after you have Chocobos, there's still moments where you're just like, all right,
Starting point is 00:54:21 time to just hold the stick forward for a while. Hey, I got a question. When you hit the map, you see the world map and it's currently sealed off for me. Is that the whole world map right there? I don't know. I don't know. Straight up. I think, but I don't know.
Starting point is 00:54:34 I'm tempted to just kind of take a session to just drive as much as possible just to get the fucking speed travel because go on, it's really grinding me down. I fast travel everywhere because even though it takes like a minute to fast travel, when I'm looking at it and it says it's going to take you five minutes to drive there because it tells you an estimation of minutes, it's like, well, I'm not going to wait five minutes to drive there. I'm actually having a complete opposite experience, I drive everywhere and I listen to the music and it's great.
Starting point is 00:55:03 More power to you. That's good. I'm not. I was doing it earlier. I am enjoying it, but I'm not doing that. You're a known hater of travel. Yeah, because I'm just looking at my phone and something's going to happen. It's making me do hunting less as well at each spot that I get to because I was originally
Starting point is 00:55:22 clearing them out up to my level and now I'm kind of just going like, I'll do like one or two. Really? Don't play Dragon's Dogma. Well, yeah, Dragon's Dogma will kill you. Now, definitely grabbing every quest and then clearing them in an optimal arc across the map is the only way to do it. If you were to do one quest at a time going back and forth, you'd go insane with the travel
Starting point is 00:55:44 times. It should be that doing it however you want is normal and fine, but doing it optimally feels good because you're like, yeah, I know I'm doing it better. But it's like, no, this is the only realistic way to approach this. Yeah, otherwise I'm going to waste like 25, 30 minutes if I'm doing like eight quests. There was a great moment where I was like, thankfully, I was like, oh, you find like that some guy stalled out on the road somewhere and it's like, oh, he just needs a repair kit or something.
Starting point is 00:56:11 And I'm like, I'll just run to the car. Oh, cool. I never saw that. Yeah. But it was kind of like just run to the car. There's a shop in the car. Yeah. And just buy one.
Starting point is 00:56:20 And then quest solved. And I was like, that's a nice thing. Yeah. The shop in the car was smart. I need this for this moment right here. And I just never would have thought to have gotten this. So the car has the shop. That's good.
Starting point is 00:56:29 It's definitely one of those things that really doesn't make sense, but it's good. It is a good feature where I could just be like, oh, do I have potions? Yeah. Oh, well, I better buy. Exactly. A bunch of potions. Yeah. The car is powered by the magic of the crystal.
Starting point is 00:56:41 Yes. Precisely. Can you get attacked whenever you're driving? At night time, you can drive across groups of enemies and they force your car to stop because it would be dangerous to drive through them. They attack you on the road. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:55 And those enemies are for real. Yeah. The enemies are tough. So there's no laning your arm out the window and swiping with a sword. Yeah. I was wondering. Can you fight on your Chocobo? No.
Starting point is 00:57:08 No. But you can call your Chocobo in as a striker. And he can carry you out. Or they can attack. I was definitely wondering about whether or not there's a point where you can confidently stride around at night, no problem. Yes. That time is level 30.
Starting point is 00:57:25 Okay. But not to spend too much time on it. Yeah. I'm not going to talk about it for hours. That's pretty much what I, that's, that was my experience. I really, really like it. And I'm, for some reason, I stopped playing it a little bit, but I'm keen to go back to it whenever I do.
Starting point is 00:57:38 Can you get, can you get, can you get different colored Chocobos? Yeah. That's a stupid question. I'm curious. Yeah. You can immediately color your Chocobo a bunch of colors. Oh, so one doesn't allow you to travel over mountains or anything? No.
Starting point is 00:57:51 Not as far as I know. Okay. And you can also put any medals you earn with the Chocobos around their collar. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. And they give you a shitty fake medal right at the beginning. So you can just put, so you can just put something on them. There's a lot of interesting things.
Starting point is 00:58:04 My Chocobos. This is really charming. Yeah. You can. That prompt don't fucks it. I played through Lara Croft Go from Start to Finish. Hey man, there's no wrong way to love a Chocobo. Lara, all these vegetables hung around all these Chocobos.
Starting point is 00:58:17 Oh, no reason. I played through Lara Croft Go from Start to Finish. And I think that's my favorite one of the three Go games. Of the Go's? Yeah, yeah. That's the good Go. Man's like the hardest one and like the most like pure puzzle game, but like some of those are the biggest.
Starting point is 00:58:33 Yeah. It's got the least gameplay. Some of those like Hitman puzzles at the end game, I'm just bashing my head against them like not enjoying myself necessarily because they're just so fucking hard. Deus Ex is like Hitman, but easier, I guess, has more different gameplay mechanics. You get Jensen's Augmentations, which is kind of one of the core things. But Lara Croft Go is less about like stealthing through a level and more about like adventuring through a couple like little connected areas in like what feels like an adventuring kind
Starting point is 00:59:09 of tomb raiding thing. And you're collecting treasures you see in the environment just by tapping them and stuff. No puzzle requirements for collecting treasures, so you're just kind of adventuring through and enjoying yourself. Multiple solutions to the rooms or is it always one? The easier puzzles most likely have multiple solutions, but definitely the later puzzles have only singular solutions. It's just not that kind of puzzle game, right?
Starting point is 00:59:34 It's like a rigid grid based rule based puzzle game, so having too many multiple solutions would be really like easy at the end of the game. So like the main game itself is like actually like pretty straightforward and simple, not hard at all, but like really enjoyable kind of difficulty, and there's two expansions after that. I haven't played the second one yet, but the first expansion is way harder than the rest of the game. And I'm enjoying going through that.
Starting point is 01:00:00 The only other thing I played of significance was I played Shantae Half Genie Hero, which came out for backers. Backers? Yeah. Did you back that Eli? I didn't manage to find out about it until it was over. It still annoys me. I really wish I could have.
Starting point is 01:00:18 Yeah, I know that's a bummer. They didn't have any like after the Kickstarter kind of extended. Oh, no slack air backing? That sucks. But well, I think it's coming out on Tuesday. I think it's only a week difference. It's not listed on Steam or anything. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:00:36 It is coming out on Steam, but I know that it hasn't appeared yet. Maybe it's got to go through Greenlight. No. I fucking hope not. I think that would be miserable. But it's really good. I think it's my favorite Shantae. So the first one was on the Game Boy and it was like really fucking good for what it was,
Starting point is 01:00:55 but it was short and not really that difficult and stuff. And the second one was more like open world kind of like like metroidvania structure. This one is like a return to like strict level based stuff where you just warp from hub to level and then back to hub and then to level and back to hub. But there will be bits where characters will be like, Hey, can you get me like a couple T-Rex steaks or whatever? They're over at that level. So you go to that level with a new power up and you're like, Oh, now I can do a thing
Starting point is 01:01:28 here. So it's kind of like a metroidvania, but they're like the levels are separate. Okay. I know the prior game also did that sort of one. Maybe yeah. I can't remember a million percent, but yeah, or like order of ecclesia was the one you posed, Eli. Pirate's Curse does that a little bit where you have to backtrack the levels with new
Starting point is 01:01:46 abilities. Yeah. Like new stuff. Yeah. So it's that kind of idea. And it's really cool. And each level has like three sub levels to it and like you get to save before each one. It's just really like really polished, fun, nice game.
Starting point is 01:01:59 And like definitely one of the best games I've received from Kickstarter without a doubt. I haven't finished it yet. That's a claim. I hear about halfway through. That's quite an endorsement. But I feel very strongly about that. They it's a really good game. It's really polished.
Starting point is 01:02:15 It doesn't feel rough or or rushed or anything like a Kickstarter game. Not not more than the other Shantae games doing like that's that's pretty much it. I have seen people say that Pirate's Curse. Like usually I see people say that Pirate's Curse is a little bit better, but no one has said that it's bad or or that feels like a Kickstarter game. Yeah, I could if someone wanted to say Pirate's Curse was better, I wouldn't argue with them, but I think this is my favorite one. I also do like the renewed art style a lot because they've changed from pixel art to this.
Starting point is 01:02:47 It's changed quite a lot through every single game. Yeah, look at the commercial like it was it was mostly just fidelity improvements. But now it's like a real jump in style as well. So like the aesthetics still the same, which is cool. Bosses are really fun and there's a lot of bosses, which is really nice. You still have tons of powers like in all the Shantae games. Just really all around good game. I have a hard time not recommending it to anyone.
Starting point is 01:03:11 So you could be a man. Get out if you if you want to play a good ass platformer, you can be a monkey. Yeah, like as we discussed before, it was like the only gimmick is solid platforming. Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, Shantae's gimmick is you can transform into stuff and then you do more solid platforming. Right. So it is really, really good. And there are sexy monster women. Yes, all over the place.
Starting point is 01:03:31 There's a there's a mermaid factory in the second level. And the the gag of what a mermaid factory is is really funny. So I really like that. But I'll say that was that was my week for the most part. So what do you what do you what do you what do you what do you what do you what do you. But what do you do this week? So first things first. Got baby.
Starting point is 01:03:56 There's a gift, a gift coming in from a baddyn who is the artist behind. He'll six billion demons. He sent a box with some of his comics. So here you go. Check it out. It's a fucking amazing webcomic, amazing ass webcomic. And now he's got physical versions and he's a cool guy. So thank you for that, dude.
Starting point is 01:04:15 You got your thank you kindly. I appreciate it. Yeah, very cool. It's a really good. It's fucking great. Like it's a solid. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:24 There's the, you know, give it a look and and pretty good. Thank you for sending those in for the Christmas cast. Hey, be pleasantly surprised. Ho, ho, ho. Right. Sitting on my phone. I just like looking and like it does. This deserves to be like fucking bound and put in a book kind of thing.
Starting point is 01:04:42 Oh yeah. This deserves to be like next to Saga and the illuminated. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. You're looking at those pages like what that's a webcomic, bro. It's it's nuts. It's like a comic, but they took out the bindings and they scanned it on the internet.
Starting point is 01:04:56 That's weird. Oh, yeah. And of course, one of the strongest names. I like it. Right. How many? How many? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:06 What's the number? But yeah. So this week I, yeah, not, not a ton of stuff. I guess when back in LA, we had a conversation about some stuff and what I ended up doing was getting some some games to kill time because most of what I played this week was for work related purposes and work related research things, including like I popped open like punch club and was like taking a look like, yeah, close this. We'll take a look later.
Starting point is 01:05:30 Yeah. We'll take a look later for sure. One of those. I did see you bought one game that you were playing. There were two actually. So it's at least one. I grabbed, I grabbed the Yomi mobile game. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:42 I saw you playing that too. Right. And I've been playing a lot of that. It's, it's. It's Yomi. Yomi. It's better because you can quickly. It's the same as the PC game except you've got touch mechanics and that just makes it
Starting point is 01:05:55 quicker and faster. Sure. Yeah. And that's solid. And I think like whenever I want to play Yomi with a buddy or the girlfriend, I'm going to be doing that via the phone version. It will. Like that.
Starting point is 01:06:08 It you held up your phone. Can I ask you a small but stupid favor what when I changed to my new phone, I lost that background of Killer Queen. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You guys don't have the same wallpaper for a while. I don't know where it is. Can you restore it for him?
Starting point is 01:06:25 Could you please email that to me? No problem. It's a really good piece of art that I have on my home because it's got like stars because chip that she drew because we held up his phone to me a few months ago. So you see this shit and I go, oh, you mean this? Yeah. We both had it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:44 Fucking both had to leave. So no, it's a it's a good conversion and it's not a cheap mobile game, but there it is. It's a good mobile game. Yep. No, it's a good game. Excuse me. It's a good game.
Starting point is 01:06:56 And it's it's it's fun. Now you're running downloaded, but I didn't pop open yet. Yeah. I played that a good bit. It's really good. Really good so far. Do yourself a favor and download the free even if you're not going to buy in download the free version.
Starting point is 01:07:07 Try it out. When is that coming to Android? No, no, no. Okay. That's that's that's when I it seems like they partnered with Apple pretty heavily on it. I did notice that there was a news story that their shares had dropped because of the reception to that game.
Starting point is 01:07:20 I you know. Yeah, it did. And like this happens every time and it's like by low sell high. They only high is it when the game they only dropped in relation to the absurd projections and stock rise that happened right before. Yeah. That's why I didn't really give it much credence. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:37 You know, like this happens every single time Nintendo releases anything like when a dude when the switch comes out, the same thing is going to have every single time their stocks go up. The moment they release a product, they lose a decent percentage, though it's worth bearing in mind that like their stock now is way higher than it was a decade ago or anything like that. Like it feels like it's one of those companies that has a lot of people on the fringes waiting, but don't really know about what they're buying into, but they're just they want to keep talking
Starting point is 01:08:07 about it. Yeah. There's no Nintendo. Nintendo. Yeah. You look at those old like stockholder interviews where you're reading about how they're discussed like they're not really pleased with discussing the quality of the product, right? Or like the endeavor and like they, you know, the stockholders would wish it was more business
Starting point is 01:08:25 oriented, which I get it. They're in that business and that's what they're there for. And like, but I like, I'm sorry. That's not everyone. And the log of the of it of the fucking meeting is like you can you have a lot of face-pomming like you know what I mean, like it's fucking and like everybody expects that Nintendo, like everybody, all these shareholders expect the Wii again every time. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:49 And like the projection that got lowered that that caused the stock drop was the projection that Super Mario Run would sell 60 million units out the gate instead of only the current more accurate projection of 12 million, only 12 million at 10 bucks a pop. A pathetic biggest launch on the app store ever in all history. Yes. Pathetic. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:15 Although I think it's, I think it's a, yeah, especially tied with Apple considering how they've been going to Apple stores, Mimoto going to the Apple store in New York and stuff like that. Like it seems pretty tied in there. So like, yeah. So they lost 7% after Mario Run, despite it being like a huge seller and like really good also high quality and like tons of people downloaded it. They lost 18% after Pokemon Go, which was way more profitable than Mario Run. Right.
Starting point is 01:09:43 So like. Yeah. You don't understand. Every time. Every time. If it's, there are no. There is no. Perfume has done really well hasn't it?
Starting point is 01:09:51 Yes. Yeah. Sold out everywhere, can't buy one. It's cool cause like. If that's like done really well quote unquote like. Yeah. Well, that's kind of a Nintendo thing though. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:01 I rolled out. Of course it is. Nintendo. The sales thread came up for Japan sales last week and like me and like all the other people who get in there early, we're looking at it and we're like they sold more Famicom Minis in Japan. Did they ship more Famicom Minis to Japan than they did any estimate? They totally did.
Starting point is 01:10:22 They totally did. Wow. Yeah. Fuck off. It wasn't even going to come out in that region originally. No shit. It did super good in Japan. It did.
Starting point is 01:10:33 It's super good in every region as far as I know. Yeah, but you also get to find out how many did they ship to each region. About 200,000. Oh no shit, it's sold out. But yeah. It's sold out in Japan. But yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:47 It's sold out this week. Are you caught up on JoJo? Yes. Okay. They're fucking, they're delivering really, really strongly. The last week's cliffhanger is something like an anti-cliffhanger because you know what's going to happen. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:03 It really shouldn't be. Hey folks, you know that thing that you've been waiting for, the whole show that's going to happen? It's going to happen. But the special intro, then the coming back to the sound effects version and a lot of that stuff I really, really enjoy. I just want to be like, well, and I'm sure we'll get into it at some point, but I just want to say that as far as like the way they handled this fight goes, it's so much more
Starting point is 01:11:29 fun watching this take place and seeing it with someone who doesn't know what's going on. Oh yeah. Because it's like, wait, what? Where's the big bombastic space fight over Cairo? You know, where they're in the air using their superpowers, where they're hiding in apartments, throwing glass at each other. It's a fucking high school kid and a shitty businessman peeking around corners at each
Starting point is 01:11:52 other like losers. It's great. Fucking awesome. And it's the highest stakes it's ever been. And what I really, really love especially is, and this is something that I feel like, I don't know if the manga would have conveyed it as much here, but I really felt it in the show is the last sequence of like that fight between, you know, main protagonist and main antagonist is going down.
Starting point is 01:12:14 And the JoJo thing is to always go, haha. I thought three steps ahead of time and did this thing when you weren't looking. And then you go, oh fuck, what? And it works out a little bit, right? But then. But then. And so what, but what you got to see this time around was Josuke in particular doing the things that you're like, why is he doing that?
Starting point is 01:12:34 I don't know what that action means as he's walking through the house. Yeah. And it's like, he's doing the thinking ahead thing in front of you. And you can see it. This time. Yeah. And you're trying to keep up with it. You know?
Starting point is 01:12:48 I love that. I want to clarify that. He grabs the cigarettes. He starts trying out. Yeah. He drops one on the ground. No. Okay.
Starting point is 01:12:56 Grab that vase and you're like, oh my God, he's doing the thing. I want to see him building it. I want to clarify that slightly because people who aren't as familiar with the older ones would have a little trouble in, in, in part two with Joseph, yeah, he would be about to die and he would go, haha, off camera invisible to the viewer. I wrapped a string around your neck and you're going to die actually in my trap. And then it would show a flashback and you would see that happen, which was not shown to you.
Starting point is 01:13:24 And it's kind of cheating to be honest here on the ground, but this time Willie points out like I'm using the cigarette. I'm lighting this thing on fire. I'm throwing this down all over there setting it up and you're like, what the, why is he doing that? And then later right before it happens, it's like, that's why that's exactly why it happens, you know? So like this is like the first time I feel we've gotten to see in the show that like,
Starting point is 01:13:45 like the process of out thinking your enemy, you know, so that's fun stuff. The other game that you're making reference to was a long time coming. Yeah. I downloaded and started and gave my proper second wind try to the world ends with you. And I'm back on the mobile, on the mobile version. I'm past where I originally was when I stopped the first time. And here's what it's at. Like it remains artistically and musically just fucking stellar touch the stellar.
Starting point is 01:14:19 Is there a singular other game that's comparable like artistically to that game in terms of like, I'm not the biggest fan of that art style or even music, but it's explosion of uniqueness. Yeah. It's not to be denied. No. I don't know. And everything about it is supposed to be something I should be in love Tokyo jungle.
Starting point is 01:14:41 But but I never, I never, like I always had huge problems with the gameplay. And in particular, for anyone who didn't hear me talking about it a while ago, because probably I don't know, maybe 100 podcasts ago, basically, my issues were to a minor degree, the I don't like the randomness I felt playing it on on the main combat on the touch screen felt kind of like, just tap, tap, tap, tap, slash, slash, slash, and it felt felt kind of random. And I didn't really like that, like waiting for the cooldown. I just keep tapping until the cooldown is back. I wanted more precise sort of combat.
Starting point is 01:15:17 Yeah. Have you have you gotten to the point where you're like, oh, wait, there was no randomness all along. Well, because, sure, you know, and this the bigger issue was the passing the puck. I that those two combined made me just not. I just couldn't get into it. I really, really hated the passing of the puck. So the mobile version of the game is single screen.
Starting point is 01:15:36 No passing puck completely get rid of the passing the puck. And you know what? That's enough for me to be like, yeah, I can I can enjoy this now and I can go through it. The combat still does feel random to me because I know that, like, outside of like, like there's moments where you have to pretty much like, OK, that's where the the dodge needs to be to avoid that big hit. But you're kind of just tapping, waiting for the cooldowns to resume. And I want I wish that I could run around and like kind of do those abilities
Starting point is 01:16:08 with like button presses and a D pad. Because for the most part, it feels like when I get into a battle and I queue up a bunch of them, I'm just kind of sitting there with my fingers doing this with the enemies, just tapping the enemies, right? And then he moves over there. OK, he's getting close, slide away and then just keep doing that. Yeah, it's not really it's not really any different from a regular RPG. But you'd walk in and you just mash a to fight.
Starting point is 01:16:29 But I do wish that like I had more control over the action in that regard. And that somehow like by if I if I have like an attack map to a specific button or a specific input or something like that, that it's almost the difference between how I hate wow games, where you you click to control your character versus actively controlling your character with inputs. It's it's a bit of a need to feel that sense of agency. Ultimately, I think that's kind of like the beauty of its divisive battle system is like Neku's controls need to be as simple and like easy to use.
Starting point is 01:17:01 And like they need to give you the ability to just tap, tap, tap slash slash slash because you need to also usually focus on the second character on the top screen whom you can't just you cannot mash with the second character after the first week of the game. It's you need to precisely precisely put the right input. Especially when you get to one of the later characters where he has his cell phone and it's it's just wild, the kind of stuff you have to do with him to to like keep fighting correctly.
Starting point is 01:17:29 So that gets translated into basically a striker that jumps on to the battle with you. Yeah, I saw it's like a summon, right? And there they summon in and they do their attack. And you can then you could the passing of the puck becomes a I attack, you attack, I attack, you attack, right? Yeah, which I'm totally fine with that. So that's completely fixed by having it on a single screen. But I still haven't. I still am not a fan of the basic kind of randomness
Starting point is 01:17:52 feeling of the gameplay. But it's that. But just getting rid of the major issue for me is enough for me to be like, I can take this all the way through. I'll be very surprised if by the end of the game, you still think it's random because I don't think it's random so much as it's straightforward and simple. Perhaps. But the idea that harder bosses are going to come and force me to pay more attention
Starting point is 01:18:15 that much will be clear. But just looking at the cool down and just mashing the input for the cool down to trigger again. And then when that one's done, just go to the next one, now go to your slash and you're just you're just sitting, you're just perpetually doing the thing as you're cool and you're staring at your cool downs. I'm like, that's not really. I want more out of my fight because I can tell you like, like, for example,
Starting point is 01:18:37 some of the like later strategies I remember using was like using launchers and then tapping your strikes to like keep them in the air while you let your launcher recharge instead of spending them all right away, like juggling carefully so that you have more time to recharge. And like does it call for that? Is that kind of just like something that you started to if you start if you want to play and get all the like late game stuff, play on higher difficulties, stuff like that, which is kind of required to get some of the more
Starting point is 01:19:06 powerful things in the game, you're going to need to like, you're not going to be able to just OK, just because so far I've been keeping myself on the lowest star, you know, the lowest thing for pins and like tapping as many enemies as I can see. And I'm the first week of the game is there's really straightforward. So but I think by the end, you might not find it's random so much. I hope so. But I'm glad you're enjoying it. But what it's enough, it's enough for me to be able to keep going through because again, the the style like the puck and the style is fucking,
Starting point is 01:19:35 you know, it's it's everything I should love. There's nothing else like it really. And then a neck is super anti anti social behavior. He's super anti. Yeah, he's the character everyone thought Noctis is going to be. So he's totally what you thought. Noctis is going to be like, I don't need any but he's. But he's so far gone that like he kind of looks back.
Starting point is 01:19:54 Yeah, no, it's pretty extreme in that regard. And then you kind of get a refresher. Yeah, there's a bonus epilogue chapter in the game that's not canon. So. OK, it's not a spoiler that there is an epilogue. Because, again, it's completely not canon. You have to play it. If you get if you finish the game, don't just stop that epilogue. There's also nothing like it in any other game.
Starting point is 01:20:18 And it's really, really. The iOS version also has little mini buys to buy expended music. And I don't know. Yeah, I should. Because I still want to hear the original soundtrack. Yeah, it's a two gig in like app. I remember I remember you showed me the mini buys and I was like, huh, like because in the game, you get the CDs in the records in your in your menu and you can like assign those as your pause menu music.
Starting point is 01:20:37 So I wonder if it's just that and it doesn't actually increase the I'll buy one or two to see if like where I can use it, you know, because there's some great music, you're not you're not buying like twenty hundred yen pins. Yeah, although you can buy a 10,000 yen if I'm not mistaken, there's a shop that's very, very clear to see. This was dropped right here in the iOS shop. Yeah. Yeah, that was I remember seeing a screenshot of that and being like, huh, cool, the girl has a cool design and you tap on it.
Starting point is 01:21:06 And it's like immediately you see fucking like Twitter and many buttons and Facebook buttons. You're like, oh, my God, here is the insert character. Yeah, yeah. But anyway, so there's that. Did you guys see Rogue One? Yes. No. OK, did you see it, Plague? I just said no. So I didn't hear you. Fuck you. I never hear anything.
Starting point is 01:21:28 Oh, I didn't know you're terrible, terrible week. OK, well, it wasn't so terrible because Rogue One's pretty good. Rogue One is really good. Yeah, I liked it a lot. I didn't feel like fighting the week one hordes. Yeah, to be honest, I bought the ticket two hours before. I forgot. OK, I fucking forgot. I bought the ticket like I was surprised at how easily I was able to just waltz into the theater like a normal movie and get decent seats and watch it.
Starting point is 01:21:53 We went in for like 10 40 p.m. on no, 11 10 p.m. on Saturday, first Saturday, obviously, so it's going to be a bit busy. And like we were there like a half hour ahead of time and there were like almost no seats to choose from. So like, yeah, the crowds are real. I mean, it's first Saturday. We expected it like at 11 10, we weren't so sure it would be that pack. I'm going to sit on the Tuesday with my people.
Starting point is 01:22:17 I'll quantify for myself that the nearest theater to where I live used to be 30 miles from here and it closed. So now the nearest one is 50 miles away. So I never go see movies. Yeah, that would do it. You should sounds like plague has an opportunity to open up his own movie theater. Projection showing one in there. Barn projection, exactly.
Starting point is 01:22:45 It's real. It works super good. OK, I've done it before. Be max. Yeah, why not? And just like in the box is just like your seat is on the back of a pig. Yeah. And everyone. We do have sheep now. And there you go. You know, and everyone's while you get the prod. And you just like, like, like, hit the fucking animal.
Starting point is 01:23:04 That's bad. Shakes the seat around the seat around. Don't shock. I'll come to Willie's farm. Immersive experience. Pigs are cute, man. Pigs are nice creatures. Well, they'll fuck you up, man. Yeah, so they will. They're good for the following.
Starting point is 01:23:16 The remains of humans. They're tough. No, they're pigs are kind of assholes. Don't. But they're cute. Don't be a Susie Seat Kicker. Do I need to show you a picture of a little piglet wearing boots? Those aren't real pigs. Those are pigs. No, it's a race pigs, actually. Yeah, my family did as well for a little while.
Starting point is 01:23:33 We always named them after like sausages or bacon or ham or whatever. Remember to turn your cell phone off. It's good that you don't. The animals will charge you. But yeah, don't have one at all. Tell you what, the rogue one is so what you're getting is pretty much what you expect. And it stills my confidence in their ability to do a Star Wars spin off movie because, you know, you pretty much have,
Starting point is 01:23:59 I'd say 75 percent of it is just here's a look at the rest of the Star Wars. So I for those who don't know, by the way, this is pre episode four. This is right before it's not it's not near seven or I saw a comment that really stuck in my mind that is floating around some review thread. And it was Rogue One is as if they took an above average dark horse comic from the EU and turned it into a movie. Exactly. Yeah, that sounds about right. Lots of cool ideas, lots of cool new ships,
Starting point is 01:24:28 lots of cool like expansion on things that you know a little bit about. And you're like, oh, yeah, yeah, I want to see more of that. That you would that wouldn't have a place in a Mon Motha's there. Yeah. And Grand Moth Tarkin does some Tarkin in all over the place. And I love Grand Moth Tarkin. Lots of CG humans because they're all old now. But but you kind of have. Yeah, you have the ability to spend time showing stuff that, you know,
Starting point is 01:24:52 you couldn't do when someone with the name Skywalker is walking around because they're too important. I am so glad that they're like there's been a lot of people that are complaining. Oh, it's not part of the main thing. Who cares? We don't need this movie. But you have a whole setting that on its own is fascinating enough that you now have an entire expanded universe that you threw in the trash. You can do anything. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:15 You can tell any number of stories. They don't all have to revolve around one family. I would that would be interbreeding with another. I would watch a fucking detective story in the in the course of like whatever. Yes, that's that's the strength of making a good setting is that you can put any story that you want in the setting and it will work. And because they burned it all to the ground, except for one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, Rebels and Clone Wars.
Starting point is 01:25:40 Clone Wars, yeah, you know. I think that's a very few of the comics. Cotor and Cotor two being thrown in the trash hurt my soul. A lot of people got really upset about burns. A lot of people got really upset about the thing they liked being thrown away. But you know what? Well, it's a new, new, a lot of the canon is now new landlord. I get it. Like they don't want to be held down by, you know, that stuff.
Starting point is 01:26:02 And in any case, what but what you sort of end up with here is, yeah, look into that into that life, fucking Donnie. And I'm so happy. I'm so happy that you were excited that he could speak English. So good here. And his English is better than ever. And he's fucking kicking ass and not just better than ever. This is a dramatic step forward for his English. You know, like it's not just a little step.
Starting point is 01:26:23 Yes, he can speak English now. But he's also like arrived in West America proper, not just blade. China wants their stars in Hollywood movies. God damn it. And Donnie Yen is a good fucking pick for everybody. Yeah. Yeah. And he's he needs to get his time in right now. And he barely even accepted the job because he didn't want to leave his kids.
Starting point is 01:26:45 But like, no, fuck your kids. He did leave the kids. He did do it. And now everyone knows and loves you. And like, it's your time to it's been your time to shine for like a decade. Hopefully now it actually takes off for real. I like you, Donnie. And you're cool. Fucking more air combos and movies, please. But anyway, he's he's fantastic.
Starting point is 01:27:03 And his buddy is great, too. Yeah. Yeah. The guy is because he's a pair with a friend of his that the two of them play off so well with each other. Is the is the other and that dog kind of like him. But I can't tell because he's got a huge beard. I don't know. But but but yeah. Like, and you just, you know, you got a really cool look at things
Starting point is 01:27:20 like people that are force of depth, but not Jedi's, you know, like this. That's really interesting. But the last sequence of the movie is fucking the whole final act. The final act, the third act is impeccable. Like they blow up the Death Star. I mean, well, there's there's there's a title drop and the rest of the movie is all leading towards that. OK, you know, but you know what it's about already.
Starting point is 01:27:43 It's like how you get the fucking plans. And cut the chtarn, the goes and gets the plan. Yes. Yes. Thousands. No, that's thousands of both. The Boffins are for the second best. I know, I know, I know, that's the. But like you get you get an amazing him and Jan or and you get an amazing retcon
Starting point is 01:28:02 that saves some of the stupidity. Oh, of a new hope. All right. Really? A really good retcon. What are there? One of my favorites. There's nothing that actually jumps out at me from a new hope of needing retconning. But I bet when I encounter it, I'll be like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:20 When you see it and you see the trail of bodies that leads to the plans and exactly how the trail of bodies is distributed, you'll be like, man, that I felt like it actually added. OK, I need to go back and watch the fourth movie in all fairness. But I felt like it actually added without. Yes, without without rewatching it immediately, just based on my memories, I feel like it added.
Starting point is 01:28:46 I don't care about it. Tell me afterwards. OK, because it's like to me, to me, this it's a retcon on the level of like J.J. Brim's Star Trek reboot. OK. Style like genius way to save to make this thing. Smart and the present. So Starkiller was there all along the whole time, the whole time. Which it just makes something a bit
Starting point is 01:29:08 Starkiller, basically. Super clone. You know, we always make fun of that name, but no one makes one of Biggs Darklighter. Yeah. Who the fuck? A lot of Star Wars names are fucking. Bigs last name, Biggs Darklighter. You heard me. Well, well, you know why we don't make none of it?
Starting point is 01:29:25 Because his name never comes up in the film. There you go. No one ever thinks about comes up in this film. And you know, our military is building a space station. We're going to call it the Death Star. Well, there's precedent for that. The Nazis had fucking skulls on their uniforms. They knew. Yeah, they knew. They didn't call themselves death soldiers.
Starting point is 01:29:42 They. I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure one of those divisions was like thunder something or stormtroopers, obviously. Obviously. Thunder cock. No, no, no. Seriously, though, seriously, though, SS standard for super strong. No, SSS, the Smokin' Six style.
Starting point is 01:30:04 Super sexy squad. Soldier names. Get that, get that, get that snazzy uniform up in there. No, I think the other thing that goes unmentioned is Mads, Michael, Mads, Michael, Mads, Mickelson, Mads, Mickelson is everywhere now. And I can I have room for more. I have room for more Mads in my life.
Starting point is 01:30:25 He has a good role. And I don't even watch Hannibal. I just know I love him and everything else I've seen him in. I forgot he was Hannibal. Le chiffre. That's that's who he is to me. And yes, I know about Death's Head. OK, well, Death's Head, there it is.
Starting point is 01:30:37 Nailed it. All right. Dude, Mads, Mickelson, just the going from Doctor Strange to the rogue one to the Death Stranding. Yeah. Yeah. Looking like the exact same person and all three want his face. Yeah, you want that. That man is cursed to be a villain
Starting point is 01:31:00 that he will never be a good hero man. I'm sure he will never be a good hero ever. He's no, no. What if he was a villain that turns good and he becomes the Magus on your team? Oh, his face is so evil that he could never be a protagonist ever. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:31:17 He's already been one, hasn't he? So what was he a protagonist in? Anyway, all right, I'm going to waste my time looking at IMDB if you don't answer this question. Hannibal, he's a good guy in Hannibal. Hannibal's a fucking monster. Yeah, but he did it for the right reasons. No, he didn't.
Starting point is 01:31:32 He helped out once or twice. Then he ate some. That's the most bullshit, like, fuck you. You've never seen Hannibal, then, I guess. Man, Death Stranding, you don't know. Those soldiers could be trying to save that baby. I don't think that's accurate. I'm going to have to give you a Hannibal lecture.
Starting point is 01:31:47 Big ol' grease hearts. Ah, boo. Boo. Big ol' grease hearts stealing that baby and only Mads Mickelson and his death soldiers can save him. Only his skill of bros. Yeah, they're the heroes.
Starting point is 01:32:03 Oh, you like that? Anyone else here really want to play Death Stranding like every night? Yeah. Actually, no. Eli, what do you think about Death Stranding? Well, I don't really have the groundwork that you guys have with him and all of the metal games
Starting point is 01:32:21 and everything. So just the music videos, then. Yeah. I've played most of them, I think, but I don't remember most. But Death Stranding looks very good. I kind of worry about its development for the same typical reasons that it's a Kojima game.
Starting point is 01:32:40 But overall, it looks promising. And I'm excited to see what comes out of it. Yeah. That's about right. It's about right. You didn't give a wrong answer. I would like to addend my earlier statement, Liam. I am less excited to play the game
Starting point is 01:32:55 than I am for the next trailer. Yeah. I've said it. I've said it before, and it's a somewhat controversial statement, but I stand by it and that I think Kojima is better at making trailers than he is at making games. And that's up for grabs.
Starting point is 01:33:10 Because his trailers are 10 on 10 every time. Every time. There's never been a battle. But what is not up for debate is that I'm pretty sure I enjoy the lead-up to his games more than his games. That's fair. The excitement of talking with Wooly about after every single Metal Girl trailer
Starting point is 01:33:28 and going through the fucking wiki and just doing it, that is the most fun I've had in the lead-up to a game. And Death Stranding is proving adept at that kind of lead-up. Without even having a wiki. Yeah. We're still just looking at things like, what is that? So much. Who is that?
Starting point is 01:33:46 So much to bring. Adept. Did the baby ARG movies. They're like ARG movies. Between the trailers? Yeah, almost ARG. Almost, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:54 There's a lot of involvement with them. That's important. But no, but all that to say just in conclusion that we are so far beyond the age of Star Wars. It is, from my perspective, it's the Jedi who are evil. That we're so far past that now. And the guy who directed Rogue One, I don't know his work, or I don't know who he is.
Starting point is 01:34:16 I assume he's done amazing stuff, hopefully. And that's the line. But god, you zeroed right the fuck in. But he made a great movie. So yeah, I'm confident. I really like how it also, again, I haven't seen episode four recently. But I felt like it really captured
Starting point is 01:34:32 the aesthetic of that era of Star Wars perfectly. When the Death Star fires, it's actually the exact same levers, knobs, and buttons that were used in the hope. You're looking at the same 100%. The same pre-or your sound drop down a little bit. Like 70s computer systems. And you're like, that's some goofy sci-fi.
Starting point is 01:34:54 Important question though. Or the railings. They're better not be. No, no, there's a really crazy shot of these fucking soldiers standing right next to the beam as it goes off. And there's no sayers railing whatsoever. They're just kind of like crouching to the side.
Starting point is 01:35:11 Forgive them cancer, they need it. And in particular, those guys that are standing right there are actually the director and producer of the movie. And it can't be a lie. But their nose is getting grazed by the beam. Their butts, because they're crouching away from it, is seriously like four feet away. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:35:29 It's crazy. And I know it's like six beams that convert. Each of those beams are pretty big. Yeah, no, I don't. It's big beams. Big beams. It's fucking nuts. They weren't firing the super, super beam.
Starting point is 01:35:41 But still, it's a big beam. And just the ability to really use the, you never really got up. You got a sense of the Death Star scale. They did some great shots. It's a moon. They tripled down and then quadrupled down on explaining exactly how big it is.
Starting point is 01:36:01 If you're not in awe all the time. The elevator from the top to the bottom would take hours. Like it really has some nice scale bonus. They just have pits that you fall down. It's grabbing hits. You just wind up on the other end. In particular, it's a shot. So whatever, it's not really a spoiler.
Starting point is 01:36:20 But there's a shot where you're looking at a Star Destroyer in space. And then the camera turns a little bit to reveal that that's not space. That's just one side of the fucking Death Star with shadow on it. It's out of control. But anyway, it really is.
Starting point is 01:36:35 Is there a five minute long sequence of them explaining to someone, you don't know how big this is. And then he's like, OK, I get it. Listen, motherfucker, this is a big space station. This needs power. They get it across pretty well in the visuals, honestly. There's a really good dog fighting sequence, too. Later in the movie.
Starting point is 01:36:50 Yes, there is. And I have a real hard on for Star Wars' dog fighting sequences. You do learn to respect the power of this station. I think I told you, Willie, for some reason, I thought Rogue One was supposed to be about a group of X-wing pilots before the trailers started coming. That's a very reasonable assumption.
Starting point is 01:37:10 Yeah, and I remember when the characters were first shown off, I was like, how did a droid get to be an X-wing pilot? Oh, these are going to be really cool X-wing pilots. I still really, despite that crushing disappointment, I still really like the movie. Also, lastly, favorite droid. It's favorite droid. That's your favorite.
Starting point is 01:37:29 That's only because you didn't get to HK. Yeah, what was the, yeah, HK-47? That's correct. Yes. He's here to negotiate and end hostilities. He is a special little princess. And IG's IG was always a. Are you talking about IG88?
Starting point is 01:37:47 The fucking no-line background prop? In Shadows of the Empire is a piece of shit. Oh, he's in there. That's fucking weird. Does he have dialogue in that one? Don't know. It's been too long, but I know you're just like, oh, that fucking bastard.
Starting point is 01:38:05 It's his actions that are a problem. Because I like combat, but. Combat. From Tekken? Yeah, from Tekken. But anyway. I love the little mouse droids. I like those things.
Starting point is 01:38:16 What are they for? Are they just Roombas? What are they for? Yeah, are they just Roombas? Leaning, I guess? I don't know. I think they're advanced Roombas. But K2 is like a lot of, it's the charm plus the capability
Starting point is 01:38:29 as a combo is fun. Plague. Well, you do what you're weak, bro. Oh, you mean my year? Yeah, whatever. Yeah, yeah. OK. Since the last time you've been on.
Starting point is 01:38:41 By the way, my name is Eli, aka Plague of Grypes. I have a YouTube thing. Since I have not introduced myself up until now. This is a good time to do it. Yeah, that's a good time. OK. Past year, I guess. I played several games.
Starting point is 01:38:56 I've watched several things. I've been keeping up with JoJo and Dragon Ball Super. I don't think anyone else has really been watching Dragon Ball Super. Is Dragon Ball Super good, man? Tell me, really, be honest. I will briefly, because there's a lot to go into. Oh my god.
Starting point is 01:39:10 So I saw some bits that look fucking awesome, but go on, Eli. The thing with Super, a lot of people have nostalgia for Z and everything now. So people's expectations are kind of off the charts, too. Plus, it is very easy to make fun of Toy's animation. So there's many, many compilations on YouTube of all full animation in Super, which they definitely deserve.
Starting point is 01:39:33 But I always tell people this about Dragon Ball Super. Super does not do what Dragon Ball Z did well, but what it does do very, very well is it actually turns the characters into actual people. More than even like Dragon Ball, like even more than Dragon Ball, especially Z, they actually feel like people you might actually meet. Like there's even a time when Goku of all people
Starting point is 01:40:00 is sitting down. He can't fight. This is not really a spoiler or anything. And he's just talking with Piccolo. Piccolo is playing with his granddaughter Pan. And he just says, I feel like an old man. And that's all it is. And he actually just seems like an actual person.
Starting point is 01:40:16 So there's scenes of downtime in Super. Yeah, there's a lot of it. Like sometimes too much. The core story about the different universes or whatever fighting against each other is like it's ever present. But a lot of the episodes went out, because I saw a few. And a lot of the episodes seemed to me
Starting point is 01:40:35 like they would be considered filler in another show. Like there's a baseball episode where Yamcha gets to. It's one of the greatest episodes in the history of Dragon Ball. Where Yamcha gets to do his thing, because he's a world-class baseball player. Right. You know? It's probably the best baseball player on the planet.
Starting point is 01:40:52 Yeah. A reference to his dead body shot. Hercule, Super Saiyan. Like you get everything. I love the bit whenever it's a race of cats, like cat people or something. And the dog that he rescued is up on the fighting stage. And there's this brief little moment where they're like,
Starting point is 01:41:13 no, there's nothing to worry about. And then the dog just turns around and makes this cute little yipping noise. And they have their anime for going, oh my god. And they immediately run a flight. There's little cute little things like that all through Dragon Ball Super. Super not so great for fight sequences.
Starting point is 01:41:28 There are sequences of like five minutes where they just every last single fucking scent, they pour into the show. And it shows. Those are great sequences. But generally, no, not so much good for actual fighting. So Super is a good show. It's like you can say it's worse than Z or something.
Starting point is 01:41:53 Is it the after years? The after? It does sort of have that lingering problem. Dragon Ball, if you want to hear all my thoughts on Dragon Ball and what it's been doing, you can watch the Stupid Tri-Fusion series I did very recently, where I don't even talk about the drawings. I just rant about Dragon Ball the entire time.
Starting point is 01:42:12 But Dragon Ball has a lot of problems, and that's one of them, and how all the cast has basically been left behind. And I think they're going to try the results, some of that, in the next arc that's coming up after this one that they're doing now. Does it acknowledge the absurdity of the power levels and Super Saiyan levels at all at any point?
Starting point is 01:42:31 Oh, you mean the series that invented Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan? It's Super Saiyan Blue Rouge Now or whatever. It's not in the anime, but there is a scene in the manga written by a, not written by, but it's one of the scenes that Toritaro took liberties with, where Vegeta and Goku are talking about, well, I will go Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan and doing that.
Starting point is 01:42:55 And they start saying it so fast that Goku bites his tongue, and they have a conversation of, we need to change the name. This is changing now. That's too long. OK, OK, that's pretty funny. That's pretty funny. Hence, they give it away. So they do acknowledge it here and there.
Starting point is 01:43:08 There are things like that. That's how it becomes Super Saiyan Blue. OK. There is awareness in the show. The show does make a lot of internal references to itself. So overall, just what's that? That's what I would hope for when you get to this absurd point by anyone's standards of, like, we're adding more layers
Starting point is 01:43:29 and levels to how powerful you are as gods. Like, yeah, my I really wish acknowledge whatever battle of God's first came out. They had the Super Saiyan God form. And people got really excited because they thought that was going to fix the series because they're using God key now. They're not using the old shit. So now in theory, they could have like human gods
Starting point is 01:43:51 or Namiki and God key people, you know, they could do that if they want. And they still could in theory because God key has nothing to do with being a Saiyan. So whenever the next movie, the resurrection F came out, they there were screenshots of them with blue hair and people said, oh, God, no, please don't. Please don't have this be another form.
Starting point is 01:44:11 Right. Because we thought you were getting rid of Super Saiyans entirely. But no, they doubled up on it. So great. Let's go now to I was like, did you watch resurrection of F man? I didn't.
Starting point is 01:44:26 I didn't know resurrection of F has the shittiest ending to anything I've ever fucking seen. It's not well written. It's so bad. It has no tension at all. Characters are sitting around eating ice cream just watching the fight. It's it's it's fucking baffling like Goku barely loses to
Starting point is 01:44:43 Vegeta. Sorry to Frieza and Frieza is like almost dead. He's like, now that I've defeated Goku, the earth is mine. And the Vegeta is like, by the way, I continue to exist. Right. You'll never beat me now. And that's pretty much the end of the show. That's the end of the movie where it's like, oh, I forgot
Starting point is 01:44:58 about Vegeta. Vegeta killed me in two seconds. And then he does. Well, actually, I know there's a little more to it than that. But it's like there's a 30 fucking minute fight scene that has no stakes because you as the viewer know the Vegeta is just sitting there and it cuts to him just watching. You know, he's going to slam Frieza.
Starting point is 01:45:18 Yeah, as soon as the fight's over. Like, it's like the problem with the problem with Super is that Akira Toriyama is not drawing the manga anymore. He's not. He doesn't have huge amounts of involvement in the anime, but he does write the plot and he writes the basic dialogue, like the high level. And yeah, like the highest level and like some of the
Starting point is 01:45:39 intricate little things. It depends on what it's nose like the details, right? Of course, yes. And that's the reason why there's some differences in the manga and the anime because Tori Toro is filling the blanks in one way and Toei is filling the blanks in another way. Yeah, it makes sense.
Starting point is 01:45:52 But the general story, the reason why it doesn't work is because Akira Toriyama is not a writer and he's the one doing the writing. Right. It would have been interesting if like a revisit to the Dragon Ball world after all this time would have had them face would have had them facing an enemy that like for some reason didn't allow them to go Super Saiyan at all.
Starting point is 01:46:11 Oh, there are so many ways to fix the series, you know, like where it's like the moment you do that, you feed them power to or whatever. When it's Tien's time to shine, man, fight. I want to know that too. Yeah. I want to know when launch is coming back, but it's not going to happen because you need a fucking
Starting point is 01:46:26 whiteboard to explain the setting of this one. There there is so much I could rant about like we could do several. Let's talk about that weird mole man with the nipples. We don't talk about that. OK. That thing is things fucking probably even Tori Toro. It's funny, Tori Toro, whenever he draws him likes to have
Starting point is 01:46:45 like an arm moving in front of his chest or something, just so he doesn't have to draw the nipples. What's up with that black guy and why he's so dangerous? Because he's black. He's fear the black. Teach me how to be black. Goku will be black one day, but not now. I can't believe his power.
Starting point is 01:47:02 Is it because he's black? Do you know the deal with like where he comes from and stuff? Black go go. Yeah, what is the deal? What's that black go go? This is the whiteboard thing. No, not the black go go. We know where he's from.
Starting point is 01:47:12 Detroit. Streets. From the streets. Yeah, what's black Goku's deal? Help me out. But there's like, so there's the Dragon Ball planet. Got it. Which is planet number what?
Starting point is 01:47:21 Like seven or some shit? You just want me to just go down the what happened during that entire arc? Yeah, fucking may as well. OK, I'll explain it in the briefest way possible. Yeah, brief it. We're here now. OK, Lordy Mercy.
Starting point is 01:47:37 It involves future trunks because future trunks is fucking popular and we want his sexy ass back in the show. I really, really like future trunks. Yes, yes. Everyone does. He is great. He has blue hair now for no reason. OK, so he comes he comes back in time to say that black is here.
Starting point is 01:47:55 Blacks are attacking the planet. Yes, they killed everyone again. So terraform arms. So I will skip a whole bunch of time travel because they try and travel back and forth like it's a fucking window that they're jumping in and out of. Yeah, seven or something times. It's ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:48:14 But the general gist of it is that there is a crazy ass god in universe six. I think that one user in one universe over that his name is the Masu. He's a young god in training. He's going to the next Supreme Kai in theory. But he is fucking crazy because he thinks everything needs to be beautiful and humans are not beautiful. Mortals are ruining their own existence.
Starting point is 01:48:39 And he slowly develops this idea. We should just get rid of all of them. That's how we'll fix it. And so in the prevailing in the process of them trying to figure out who is Goku Black, Goku inevitably ends up and trunks and Vegeta and we some beers end up accidentally creating Goku Black by giving him the idea to take over Goku's body. So that's where Black comes from.
Starting point is 01:49:05 Wait, what? I lost. Yeah. Who takes over Goku's body? The Masu God in that universe takes over that. Yes, versus Goku's body. OK, yes. So like there's a Masu is and they're all versions of their youth.
Starting point is 01:49:22 There used to be 18 of them. But the crazy little Dora, he's so fucking cute. The little crazy God that's over everything in this universe. The new one. Yeah, right. He destroyed like four or six of them or something. So there's now just 12 of them. And the one that we know is universe seven
Starting point is 01:49:42 and it has a mirror universe that is universe six that has slight differences. Also dragon balls are bigger than planets. Got it. Yes, there are other versions. Dragon balls are now bigger than planets. Half of them are in universe seven and half of them are in universe six. Whenever you want to collect all of them, you have to hop across both of those universe and collect them all.
Starting point is 01:49:59 All the dragon balls you know, we're just chipped off of it. Oh, my God. They're bitch dragon balls. Don't ask me how the Namekians fit into this. I don't fucking know. And so the source of when you get them together. The wish is even bigger. You can wish anything across the multiverse.
Starting point is 01:50:16 And it makes a giant, terrible looking, poorly animated dragon. Oh, my God, it's awful. And it flies through galaxies. That's the thing. There are galaxies orbiting it. Like even though they're only four galaxies. But everything I hear from people watching it is it's good. It sounds like it is.
Starting point is 01:50:34 It's like it's it's it's no, it's final fantasy. Fifteen keeps the main thing makes no sense. Yeah. So that last layer of gods was nothing. The gods above them were what men know. Zoom out again. Well, the God, the God of destruction, Beerus, right? I need to hold on.
Starting point is 01:50:51 Goku needs to Goku needs to climb up and visit the God of fighting. Who's the cat? And then he realizes there's a God above him and he climbs up and he's a green God. I remember when Poir was a big deal, because he was up in that tower. He can turn into scissors. And then Kami was on top of that. You're like, fuck, this is not even a power.
Starting point is 01:51:12 He can turn into scissors because he learned how to. They just teach you to do that. And then we can do high above him. Yeah. And then the and then the cow shins above. But the gods of destruction are still pretty like pretty close to top tier right now. Right. Yeah. Right now. Right now, the organization is that there is a God of destruction in each universe. Yeah, that God has a weird fat one in the in the other universe.
Starting point is 01:51:34 The weird fat one, Fatty Beerus, who is also adorable. They each have they each have an angel associated with them. That's what we says he's an angel. And there's something else. I thought I thought it was whatever you gave up. If you kill a kaioshin, I don't then it actually kills the God of destruction, too. Because apparently those are like linked soul linked or something, which I think they just used to explain away a plot device and the trunks are.
Starting point is 01:52:04 So the angels are super fucking strong. And if you go to some room that's somewhere, then there's like in super heaven, mega or above all the other dimensions. It's a bit like there's angels that are like the fathers of those angels. And there's some there's some henchmen that are fucking strong. And then there's a little baby called Zen, who is adorable. And he rules over everything. And with a wave of his hand, he can obliterate all of reality for some reason.
Starting point is 01:52:40 It's good, but it's good, but it's good. Those Dragon Ball Super is pretty fun. Yamcha, Yamcha eat shit. It's hilarious, dude, when when Yamcha like takes home plate at the end and he ends up in his death, that's what I said, right? Like it's fucking great. Oh, did you? Oh, yeah, I thought that this is this is the overarching problem of all, not the super all Dragon Ball is that it is so poorly written,
Starting point is 01:53:05 so poorly thought out. The universe makes no sense at all. But the things that happen in between all the crazy, nonsensical, nonsense, all the plot holes, that's great. Well, the problem with Dragon Ball's writing was always that every single element of the story was purely linear and always pointed up. Everything was always a bigger, better threat than the last time. And it was how by how much it was an order of magnitude bigger
Starting point is 01:53:31 and better than the last time, because that other guy, he wasn't shit. This new guy, though, he's a badass. Well, I got it. And if you extrapolate that long enough, you get what plague is describing now. And that's why people were excited for Battle of Gods, because they thought, oh, new writers, they're going to fix everything. But no. So on the topic of Dragon Ball, like pulling the power levels way back,
Starting point is 01:53:51 did you read the first chapter of the new manga? Which one are you referring to? Well, I don't want to spoil it. But so because I want to deliver it properly. So it takes place. It's this it's about this kid, right? Oh, yeah. And OK, so you are talking about the peripheral about that one story.
Starting point is 01:54:08 So this is kid, right? And he just lives in Japan and he loves Dragon Ball and he plays the Dragon Ball mobile game a lot and he's like he loves Dragon Ball. And on like the second page, his friends like, hey, look at those. Look at those girls. They're real hot. And he looks at those girls and he falls and he gets hit by a car and dies. And then he wakes up.
Starting point is 01:54:28 He doesn't get hit by he just falls on his head or he falls on his head, whatever. He his head explodes. His head explodes and he dies. Oh, wow. This kid in Japan. And he wakes up and he's Yamcha. And he's like, this is great. I'm Yamcha. Wait, no, no.
Starting point is 01:54:43 He says this is bad. Yamcha is super hard. Yeah. What do I do? Yeah. And so it, it, yeah. So he's trained super hard and he manages to survive past that bit. And Yamcha adventures. It's only like eight or nine pages, but there's only one chapter right now.
Starting point is 01:55:01 Yeah, there's another chapter of it coming out next year. You know, just reincarnated as Yamcha in the middle of his life. With the knowledge of the knowledge of all the events to happen in Dragon Ball. He knows everything. And it's not good, but it's good. It's funny. This is this is my favorite way of handling a Dragon Ball story. It's a what if scenario. Yeah, whatever, Naruto reader.
Starting point is 01:55:25 OK. All right. All right. The what if scenario here is just what if Yamcha was actually good? And the case of Yamcha being good involves him not being Yamcha. Yeah. Yeah. OK. It's fun. And you see the guy have to choose between going, going with Bulma at the beginning or training. And he's like, yeah, he's like, I'm going to get so much tail from Bulma. But then he realizes, oh, no, I'm going to die.
Starting point is 01:55:48 So I guess I should always have to train. Yeah, OK. Yeah, that's the the curse of Dragon Ball. I don't know what they're going to do in the future, but apparently he's on like Namek, at least, and he still hasn't died. The only reason Goku is so strong is because he's a terrible husband and father. Yes. And in Super, they reveal that he has never kissed Chichi and does not know what that is. Yeah, I saw that. I saw that. And that was he tricked him into that's a red flag.
Starting point is 01:56:14 We're doing squats, squats more than a red flag. That's that's like red upon red flags. It's just it's on fire. The flag is burning. Chichi is scary. All right. Yeah, exactly. It's just just just squats. Good workout. I'm excited to see like the Yamcha thing go further because I want to see how he'll deal with things like Frieza and Cell and Buu
Starting point is 01:56:37 who are not you can't just fight them, you know, like. So I kind of want to see what he's going to have to do. He's probably the Cell Saga he's probably I can't hear over both of these. I'm tired in the hyperbolic time chamber forever. That's an option. What would be a good option is like, Goku, you really need to go to your cardiologist more often. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:58 Stop eating all that pocket bacon. And we're going to get you all all cleaned up. And uh oh, Cell Saga and Android Saga becomes a joke if Goku is completely fine. That's true. I think more than anything else in Dragon Ball, I've always wanted to see the humans actually take care of their own shit. Like not need pocket Saiyan to take care of everything. Superman problem of this fucking DFS person that comes to save you from space.
Starting point is 01:57:23 Well, her cure gets super Saiyan. So like I want to see Krillin and Tien and even Yamcha actually beat the villain in some way like I want to see that the world should have been conquered over and over and over and just there was a baton passing from P Laugh over through to everyone else in that lineup. I guess the I guess the Red Ribbon Army would have fucking taken over. Yeah, if there is no aliens had ever come to Earth like no no Kami, no Piccolo. Yeah, Earth's destiny left to its own devices.
Starting point is 01:57:53 Yeah, the only bad thing that ever would have happened was Red Ribbon and they would have come for Boo at some point, but no one on the planet would be strong enough to take energy from. So they just would have taken him and then left. So nothing bad really would have ever happened there. Yeah, and the androids could have wiped the absolute floor with Frieza if he showed up. Yep, like no assuming that he's like no problem. Yep, yep, totally.
Starting point is 01:58:16 So that would that would have been the yeah, we probably spent like 40 minutes on Dragon Ball here. I will say one last thing. No point to sell because there's no there's no and he doesn't have saying DNA. So that doesn't really. Yeah, Super does one thing that I would say I absolutely detest. It has completely obliterated any sense that Goku is like a sane human on any like he is.
Starting point is 01:58:42 I do not mean this in any malicious way possible, but Goku is legally retarded in Dragon Ball Super. OK, how about we talk? He is he is very, very stupid things really bad. Yeah, but what's what's the dumbest thing you could think of right now? In the process of trying to defeat Black, they come up with the idea of using the Mafuba, if you remember what that is in Dragon Ball.
Starting point is 01:59:05 Yeah, sure. It's where they spin the air and they go into a jar and seal them up in a jar is where King Piccolo was originally stored. Got it. So they they they're taking the jar and the little tape thing that you're supposed to put on it into the future. Right. Yeah. And for some reason, they need a special jar, even though that was never established.
Starting point is 01:59:23 All right. But they get out of the time machine. Goku realizes he left the jar in there and now the jar is broken because the first thing Black does is try to blow up the time machine because he's gotten sick of that shit. Right. Yeah. So the jar is destroyed. So they had to spend the whole time reassembling it. And Goku remembers, oh, I forgot the tape that you're supposed to put on it that seals them up.
Starting point is 01:59:45 It's just back at Roshi's house. He completely forgot about it. Oh. And he's like, yeah, whatever, we'll just fighting. We'll just fight him. We'll just. Yeah. There you go. Yeah. OK, that's pretty bad. That's pretty bad. That's endangering everyone's lives. But let's let's let's let's we forget Goku actively letting
Starting point is 02:00:01 his enemies like power up so that he can have a fun or fight. Dude. Yeah. OK, I'm going to spoil the end of I'm going to spoil the end of Frieza's movie. What's it called? Resurrect. He lets him train for a month, right? Is he gets away? He gets away. No, the problem is, is that when he beats up Frieza and he's like, Frieza, I beat you up or whatever.
Starting point is 02:00:23 Or you're just you're pretty good. He's about to let Frieza go or he's about to go to Frieza. And then Frieza uses that opportunity of mercy to destroy the earth. Oh, well, now here's what happens. Here's the fun part. The whole point of this movie has been Vegeta, you are so uptight that you can't fight to Goku's level. Goku, you're so lax that you let yourself be open to attacks all the time.
Starting point is 02:00:53 That's why you keep fucking up. That's the whole thing in theory of the movie. It's poorly written. But Goku is gloating over Frieza. He's like, I'm super strong, Frieza. You exhausted yourself because you didn't train. Get a big dick like me. And so Frieza is sitting there.
Starting point is 02:01:07 I'm so fucking angry. And Goku leads himself wide open and the little helper guy that has been helping Frieza this whole time, who probably has a power level of like 100 and has a basic laser that you see like in the Frieza saga. Yeah, shoots Goku in the chest and one shot seam. Goku falls down for the count because he he left himself open to attack. Lethal shot, bam.
Starting point is 02:01:30 Yeah, it's because that's that's when Vegeta steps in. And then but then Frieza at one point destroys the entire earth. Yes, because Vegeta does the same thing. Vegeta's like, my dick is also big and blue. You're going to get it now, Frieza and Frieza and Frieza is like, nah, fuck this and he blows up the planet because of his time reset. And what I guess, yeah, what I what I had caught in was just that, like Frieza's race is so abnormally naturally strong
Starting point is 02:01:58 that the whole thing with the movies, basically, he realizes I never tried training ever. Yes. So let me do it for a month and then get him into that level. The the the fun thing that I've always thought about is Frieza's dad is shown to be in the Frieza's second form. So people have speculated if we do the math, if he actually transformed in the same form that Frieza has, he would be stronger than Buu is.
Starting point is 02:02:23 Yeah, OK, yeah. And or if he gave a shit, well, you've got the Cody situation. Yeah, yeah. If you gave a shit, you'd wreck all this shit. It'd be done. Dragonball is fucking stupid. Yeah. Yeah, but it's a good show. I love it. Yeah. Oh, man. OK, so that was one thing I did in my week.
Starting point is 02:02:41 Fuck you here. OK, let me just list all the video games I played. Let's go on the list. Bloodborne Titan Titanfall. Yeah, I didn't play that shit. Titanfall 2. Stop. How about you list the games that you liked? Titanfall 2. OK. Oh, wow. OK, I'm going to say list over.
Starting point is 02:02:59 I I really like the that's the you guys have this cartoon character of me. Your name is Plague of Grypes. Yes, that's the joke. Like I'm an actual person. I actually like things. My name is. Yeah, a lot of people do have a hard time like I had to stop talking you for a while because I couldn't handle how much you'd complain about Bloodborne, no matter what we were talking about.
Starting point is 02:03:20 You guys bring it up all the time. You're like, make fun of it, Plague. It's like, bub aren't stupid. Oh, I hate you, Plague. That's accurate. It's because you like OK. You complain about the things you love as the things you don't. Yeah. I think.
Starting point is 02:03:33 OK, anyways, Titanfall 2's single player is magnificent. It's magnificent. Yeah. I wish that you spent more time in the mech. I don't play first person shooters. I personally kind of find them miserable for my own reasons. It's not a problem with the genre or anything. I cannot play its multiplayer for that reason. Yeah, because it is all you need to be a first person shooter player.
Starting point is 02:03:52 If you play first person shooters, you will love Titanfall 2's multiplayer. I personally don't, but that's just me. Like it has nothing to do with anything else is a great game. Titanfall 2 Civilization Six. That's a good goddamn game. It is. I did not play much of it because it destroys my eyes. It gives me really it gives me really bad headaches. What about it? I'm not sure why.
Starting point is 02:04:17 Oh, weird. So I have not gotten to play too much of it. I went back and revisited XCOM 2. That is a great fucking game. I enjoyed its DLC, although I got to it a little too fast before I had any upgrade. So I ended up having to fight its super mega ultra King Lord beast creatures before I had any chance at all of actually like I didn't even have like magnetic weapons. Yeah. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 02:04:42 So it was very rough. I remember playing enemy within before playing enemy unknown. And when I got to DLC stuff just happening in the middle of the game, I just yeah, yeah, this was a problem with XCOM DLC. Yeah, I love XCOM 2. Great game. I know some people have been demanding that you guys revisit XCOM 2. We beat it. We did. You did. We did it.
Starting point is 02:05:03 Finish that LP. Finished it. 100 percent. Got to the flawless one is likely going to be the cannon ending. Saw the credits. So XCOM 2 played a tack on Titan. That's also a very good game. I was in on a stream that you guys did. So I guess we talk about that as much as we talk about.
Starting point is 02:05:23 I still wish that you could fly around in a horse to spend with swords attached to its if you could just cut out the middleman as play and play as the horse that would really. Yeah. Yeah. Of course. But tack on Titan. Good game. Guess repetitive course. Play Doom. Fun game. I have not beaten it yet. Oh, it ends strong. It ends really strong.
Starting point is 02:05:41 It is a very good game, though. Been playing the forest off and on. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I really like playing the forest. I did discover, though, that if I just enable the chief that gives me infinite resources, suddenly like I have this problem in Minecraft, too, if I ever play Minecraft, that I have things that I want to build that are like these vast superstructures.
Starting point is 02:06:03 And if I actually like, all right, I have to wait for the tree. Like I have to go get the stuff and like all the minutia of it. I don't like that. So just creative mode is where I'm at. Games like that, which is not what the forest is really about. No, the forest is survival. It's really cool, actually, that game. You guys did a video on that.
Starting point is 02:06:20 We should suggest that if anyone has no idea what that is about, go watch their video where they play the forest. That is a very early version. Fuck don't know what that video of that game is about before could throw myself into it and we discover it. It's a magic. Yeah, it's pretty. It has sort of this Lovecraftian thing undertone to it as well, which is really nice.
Starting point is 02:06:37 You build a thing and try to survive the night. Yeah, for us, basically, because there's some real dank monsters out there. I saw some footage and it seemed really cool, actually. And it gets really crazy the further you go into it. Oh, really? There's more than just those dank babies. There's some like crazy, like the theme looking monsters, eventually. OK, that are just like naked women fused together
Starting point is 02:07:00 in this horrible abomination thing. I have been reinvigorated to check this game back out. Good creep. That's good creep right there. All right, so the forest, you know, it's a lot of fun, but I think it's still alpha like it still has problems. So if you get it, it's still an alpha stupid. OK, so the forest did that to Master of Orion, which I think is I don't think it has like an acknowledged release yet,
Starting point is 02:07:26 but you can play it right now. Pretty much almost the exact same as the original game. You probably have no idea what Master of Orion even is, but I do. Yeah, me too. Great game. It's it's basically like civilization and space, I guess, is the best way for X game. I prefer Gal Siv personally, but I don't even play the first Galactics. There are a lot of games like that. I played the knockoff Stelcon, I think, before I played ascendancy when I was a kid.
Starting point is 02:07:51 I loved all those. That was a really good era for games. No idea. So I was busy playing good games like Warlord's Battlecry, too. It's a very specific genre. Well, I think it is there. These are the kind of games that I play. This is why it's so foreign. You notice that they're haven.
Starting point is 02:08:07 There are not many first person shooters on this list. Did you play the witness, which is first person, but is a smart game? You're shooting puzzles. Yeah, with your thoughts. Oh, yeah, I looked it up, but I did not get it. First person shooter. First person solver. If you like puzzles, it's fucking I don't play many games, actually.
Starting point is 02:08:26 It's just that this is like the best year. So it sounds like a whole lot. Yeah, it's been a pretty busy year for sure. Yes. Oh, it's been a nightmare. She or two. So, Mr. Ryan, I went back and revisited the old Overlord games. Oh, wow. The old ones.
Starting point is 02:08:45 Yeah, I remember them being like the latest one, I think, was a trash or something. But Overlord, it's DLC and two are great games. They're very one. I never liked them at all. No, no, no, no, no, no, they're like they're not shit. OK, but they're this weird. They're the kind of game that you will play for like eight hours in a row one day and then never play it again. OK, I never finished the first one.
Starting point is 02:09:06 There are things like that. The second one's much better. The first one has a lot of problems. Oh, the humor is kind of hit and miss, but it's a cute game. Yeah, you know, just it's one of those things. I'm not going to talk too much about it, but you know, they're cute. Played party hard. I didn't get all the way through it.
Starting point is 02:09:24 That's also a cute game. I kind of have this thing where I need to do it perfectly. So I can that's not a game for that. Yeah, it's definitely not. So I always have trouble trying to get through it. So that's my problem with that. Party hard the game. We have to kill all the people at the party.
Starting point is 02:09:36 Yes, yes. That's also a good game. Played Total War Warhammer. Total War still has the same issues that prior installations in the series has. I like this Warhammer. You know, I'm not big on Warhammer so much as 40 K Warhammer, but still it's pretty good. Oh, there's too much that I've kind of gone through.
Starting point is 02:09:57 I played the Witcher 3. Yeah, finally. Someone played it. I won't talk about it because I shit get on with kidding. The Witcher 3 is the Witcher 3's strength is the individual stories. Yep. The overall story kind of it's here and there. But yeah, it has a say has a bunch of strong moments when it focuses on the characters,
Starting point is 02:10:17 but when it focuses on the threat and the hunt and all that, it's kind of weak. Yeah. So the individual stories and Witcher are absolutely magnificent. Those are a lot of fun to go through. The combat in Witcher itself, like the Witcher games have never really been known for their amazing combat, that's for sure. The Witcher 3's combat is not particularly great. It's serviceable.
Starting point is 02:10:40 I would not say that it's not going to be my favorite game of all time. But it's one of those games where if I go through and start doing those individual little quests, I'll say, I really enjoy doing this. So that's my experience with the Witcher 3. I have not played it anywhere near as much as a pad has. Yay. But it is a good game. Also played Elite Dangerous much earlier in the year.
Starting point is 02:11:01 That's the space. Boy, yes, that is a truck driving simulator in space. Because you mine and is that just your truck simulator, but with space? You pick up goods at a space station, you turn around, you fly to another planet, you drop them off, then you turn back around and do that again and again until you have enough to buy a bigger truck. The space with that game is. I thought that was no man's guy.
Starting point is 02:11:22 If I'm not. Oh, it is no man's comparable. Yeah, yes, people make that comparison to like Elite Dangerous is a better no man's guy. The Elite Dangerous also has its own problems. So I know I think that that is a game that you can play not only in the real world, but in the virtual world. Yes, I have any hands on with VR stuff over the past year, since it's kind of
Starting point is 02:11:45 well hit. That's a funny joke, you know, said no. No, OK. Did they ship it? There is no VR anything in this area. That's fair. They didn't come on horseback. We brought the mules for bring off the VR.
Starting point is 02:12:01 No, there is no such thing. That's fair. That will never happen here. We were like you're trying to make it. So we're still we're still working on my fence is too big. No. What happened? Oh, that's another thing that we put a VR headset on an animal. Like we don't know.
Starting point is 02:12:17 We need all I want to test. I saw a video of a monkey playing with a VR playing a VR game. Oh, and he was doing it. Yeah, he did. The one thing was like he didn't seem to be able to like mentally register that he could take his hand off the help like he was holding the helmet. But he was doing it fine. OK.
Starting point is 02:12:33 But even though it was on his head properly, he wasn't what was the task? Oh, it was it was just some test thing. It wasn't like a game game, but there was balloons and his vive wand was basically I can imagine any animal. I can imagine any animal freaking out that there's something on its head more than anything else. Yeah. But otherwise, he seemed to the animal to care to it. Like if you try to put a sweater on a dog, it's just going to lose its mind
Starting point is 02:12:57 until it's just on there and it accepts this is my life now. There is. Oh, my God, there's a fat little chihuahua in my building that wears a tiny little coat and boots. And oh, my God, it is the cutest thing that says nothing to do with anything. Well, you know, Pat, you know what I bought for my girlfriend's dog for Christmas? What? A pair of fine cherry red doggles, which are goggles for dogs. Take a photo.
Starting point is 02:13:19 They're fun. Doggles are adorable. We go in full D.D. right now. Hold on. I got to I got to look up doggles. Well, I mean, it's spelled exactly like you think. So I bet there is a dog that's named the Baz are named Baz. Then he sniffs out disease and in all my God. These are the best. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:35 And he's wearing a really cheap dog beekeeper suit with little boots and a little like thing. Yeah, doggles are pretty slick. Doggles are pretty slick. I do admit that's it. Doggles are corgi with busted legs wearing doggles. This all right. We are just going to do videos of animals and doggles.
Starting point is 02:13:53 We do. We have a podcast. That is how do you get a dog to do an exam? Have you looked at a shidzu with doggles? They look like oh, my God, they're so cute. Doggles are strong. I'm not going to doubt the power of the dog in goofball. Look at these goofballs. Why is it so cute to dress up an animal like Hooman
Starting point is 02:14:10 because they hate it and they suffer and. Hey, guess what? Elmo, I am never going to be able to get a hat or boots or any coat on that cat. He does not want to do it. Not without injuries and wounds. Just wrap him in toilet paper. It's really tough to get him in his carrier.
Starting point is 02:14:26 It takes multiple people and he's really strong. So like. So like I can't even imagine how tough it would be to get him to wear like a sombrero or like a racist costume. Can he beat you inside of an arm wrestling contest? Possibly. Keep trying.
Starting point is 02:14:40 You just force it. It's like a scene from the fly. Eventually once you get it on, he'll forget that it's on. Yeah, just run around going meh. Yeah, I do it while he's asleep. So he wakes up and he's like, oh, oh. Well, you force it on him and then you like,
Starting point is 02:14:54 the sort of just shrinks and agrees and then later when you go to sleep, the tables have turned. I just want to dress my cat up like a tiny fireman. Is that so wrong? Is that so wrong, people? There's nothing wrong with dressing up your dog or cat like a tiny stereotypical Mexican person.
Starting point is 02:15:10 You fucking city people, leave your animals alone. They are not toys. They are toys. I love him. They are not. He is my child. D-Box theater seats. We've already established this.
Starting point is 02:15:20 There's like, we have like 20 cats. They're all outside cats. They're just, if they vanish, they vanish. Yeah. Like I went outside like a couple of days ago and there was a dead orange one out there. It's like, huh, one of them died. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:15:32 And that was it. We'll throw him out the woods. I've been there actually. That's it. Sorry, Blake. My heart has not been desensitized to the specter of death like yours has. Yeah, that's wrong.
Starting point is 02:15:42 I was born into the specter of death. That's true. Okay. So what the fuck were we talking about? It's something about, oh, I'm sure people will enjoy this. We have- Doggles. Doggles. We started construction on another fence,
Starting point is 02:15:56 which I'm sure you've seen. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Is this a different area? Fence talk would play, let's get it. Where is this one? I don't even, this is like your guy's joke. Like, this is something that people in my,
Starting point is 02:16:11 like someone will show up into our discord or something. Well, how's that fence? And everyone in the chat's like, oh, here's a new guy. Yeah. And that's it. I don't even know where the joking came from this point. I guess because it like spanned two videos or something that were so piece apart.
Starting point is 02:16:26 Yeah. And that was it. But we built a fence at some point because we just wanted to make sure that the dogs had a place to run around in, but we didn't want them running out into the road. Now we have sheep because we transitioned our farm out of being a like a crop based farm
Starting point is 02:16:42 because of like financial problems. Basically we can't do it anymore. And now we just have sheep to keep our farm status and we need new fence to keep them fenced in. So for the time being, sheep being what they are, we haven't had to electrify it yet, but it's a temporary electric fence. And we're just trying to make sure
Starting point is 02:16:58 that they're in there long enough that we can build a more stable permanent one around them. Because we have a new barn built, there's a bunch of shit going on here on the farm. Long term fence plans. Yes. Does it make more sense to build extra fences or does it make more sense to upgrade
Starting point is 02:17:14 the fence stability of the existing fence? Well, there's a lot of fence, the level two fence, act two fence. Wow, you really did like it. You sound like a city slicker even more than me. Wow. Eventually you get the barbed wire and then you get the top things that stick.
Starting point is 02:17:30 You don't need barbed wire for farm animals, will you? Yeah, don't do that. They have cloven feet. It's not about that. It's about your fence and its level. Oh, it's fucking prestige. You need to prestige your fence. Oh, yeah?
Starting point is 02:17:45 You need the maximum. You will raise the golden fence. Can't prestige your fence if it's not getting kills, though. That's kind of a whole thing. Future generations will know that we lived. My grandfather told me once that he helped his uncle on the farm build a fence. And I asked him, why'd he help build it?
Starting point is 02:18:05 He's like, well, because we live near the train tracks and the cows would like to go lay down on the tracks because it was hot. Yes. And that went badly, so we built the fence. You sort of told it one time about the story of the rich guy here that keeps buying up everyone's land. He's the one that bought our land
Starting point is 02:18:23 whenever we had to sell it, actually. Oh, yeah. But the dumb asshole that had the automated, the water systems, if you guys know what I'm talking about, it waters your fields for you. Watering systems. It moves, like it has a motor that causes it to sort of move, sort of, you know, in a circle.
Starting point is 02:18:41 Yeah. And he placed it too close to the railroad tracks and it rolled itself up and got exploded everywhere. You stupid rich asshole. That's fucking funny. Then later, he got in trouble for digging up graves inside of a, like a new area that he bought. So, like, no one even visits them anymore, though.
Starting point is 02:19:03 Yeah, well, we've all been there. You can't dig up human bodies. You can't do that. Then we buried him upside down and we pissed on him. They're just some Indians. I'mma do this the same way. What could happen? Yeah, what could happen?
Starting point is 02:19:18 But he's everyone's favorite. You dumb rich asshole. That's great. That's fucking perfect. This is like one of those strapping, like, tied, the ties that kind of have a little leather thing attached to them, like almost like a boat. You know what I'm talking about?
Starting point is 02:19:33 A stereotype. The rich asshole coming in from out from the big city, you know? Yeah. Well, unfortunately. Clean ass boots, way too clean. Unfortunately, the people here are actually human beings, not stereotypes. So, we don't just walk around in straw hats
Starting point is 02:19:48 and suspenders all the time, unfortunately. So, he just looks like an ordinary person. Boo. Or we look like ordinary people, I guess I should say. Well, it's your impression of ordinary people. Yes, I'm sure if I went to a city, everyone would point. Hoo hoo hoo hoo hoo hoo. Heal, kill, kill country boy.
Starting point is 02:20:05 You sent me amazing footage of this girl doing a ridiculous field work with that. Do you remember what I was talking about? What was it? It was a kind of. This is a very poor explanation. OK, it sounds like porn. It was using machinery or a tool.
Starting point is 02:20:23 She's using a tool. She's using like a hoe almost or whatever to put the bales of hay together, or like to put the, to do the paint. A piss fork? And she's, and it was, it looked like a piss fork, but I don't know if it was. Anyway, but she was doing it faster
Starting point is 02:20:35 than like the machines were. Oh, no, no, no. Holy shit. You're talking about a gif of, I think you're talking about a gif of someone using a scythe to cut. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't know what a fucking scythe is.
Starting point is 02:20:47 It was a long time ago that we saw this video, but it was like. It's a gif of someone using a scythe to cut grass faster than someone that's using like a weed whacker. Right, right. That's what it was. Yeah. And he was doing it way faster.
Starting point is 02:20:59 And I'm like, that is exactly the kind of video that I would expect to receive from you before we fight stereotypes, sir. Anyway. We're not locked in around here, woolly. Like excuse me while I fuck this sheep. We have sheep, by the way. By the way.
Starting point is 02:21:14 You mean you weren't in it the whole time? Now you can fuck them. You were podcasting? Now you can fuck them. It's just in front of me, in front of, come on, golly, I need the type. E-mails. We're gonna take some of them.
Starting point is 02:21:25 Okay. That was my week. Yeah. It's a good long week. Yeah. Yes. So it's, even though it's a Christmas cast, we're kind of getting it just taken.
Starting point is 02:21:36 How long do we spend on our weeks? Two hours and 27 minutes. How's it about right? Christmas cast. It's Christmas. The email podcast featuring four emails. Okay, well, we got one on the subject of cooking from Jason.
Starting point is 02:21:56 He says, they're eventual reenactors of Uruguay Air Force Flight 571. I know exactly what he's talking about. Jason here, as we all know. Is that a plane where a good thing happened or a bad thing happened? It's the very famous plane that went down and the soccer players had to eat each other.
Starting point is 02:22:10 Oh, that's a bad thing, yeah. Which is why this is about cooking. As we all know, the eye juices are the sweetest part of the human. On the subject of choice cuts of man, if you had to eat one human organ, what would you choose? Flutes.
Starting point is 02:22:23 Additional information, you can cook it, but you have to cook it. The flank flesh. But you have to cook it. He said organ, though, right? Yeah, you can cook it, but it has to be you. It has to be an organ, it's not a cut of meat. Liam gets the advantage.
Starting point is 02:22:37 If it comes in pairs, you have to eat both. I guess the liver. Liver seems like an obvious decision. Yeah, that's the most obvious one, because that's actually something that people eat. People do eat both. But I'm not happy with that decision. No, but all the livers are gross.
Starting point is 02:22:51 Yeah, I'm looking at them and I'm like, yeah, I guess that one. I can't get like a butt steak. Seriously? That's not an organ. You can also, but you need to pick an organ, too. Here's another option. Here's another option.
Starting point is 02:23:03 Skin. Skin is an option, like chicken skin. Yeah, I don't know if I'd count the skin in this case. Yeah, I think he wants skin. It's an organ. Skin is an organ. I know what it means, what the skin is. It's the largest organ on the human body.
Starting point is 02:23:16 If I can't get liver, I'll go kidney. That seems like that's included in the rotation. Speaking of the largest organs, did you know what to pair dicks are actually longer than their whole body and they use them to scratch themselves? I did not know that. I did not know that.
Starting point is 02:23:27 Something I was thinking about a lot last night. Okay, sorry. There's some of those factoids. Of course. It's been a while. I do know that there are animals that do do that, though, so yeah, I'm not sure if there's another one. I mean, please proceed.
Starting point is 02:23:39 Yep. Yeah, I'm gonna go liver as well. I think it's an easy pick on liver. Probably, if not that, then like, yeah, you go up to like the other things, people eat like the tongue. But the stuff that's less of the gross side. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:23:49 You wanna go as internal as you can to try and avoid the human-looking parts. Yeah, like the heart. Yeah, that's clearly a human heart. And it's probably tough. Yeah, you don't wanna eat the ballsack or anything like that. Yeah, no, that's too ballsack. Chew on the balls.
Starting point is 02:24:04 Chew them. I've seen them. I've seen them. Where are they so springy? Oh, God, I poked it with a fork and it bounced up. I don't want this. Yeah. Okay, we got one coming in from Eric,
Starting point is 02:24:16 their super vomit friends. Hi, Eric. Did you catch Mega64's Christmas Cast? Rocco drank his own piss. Bryant Garrett and Frank, Brian Garrett. Why is that a Christmas Cast? So they- They bought Sir Stromming and that cleared the room hard style.
Starting point is 02:24:31 Real question though. What's the funniest thing you've ever seen someone do when they thought no one was watching? When they thought no one was watching. I used to work at Burger King in my hometown in high school and there, early in the morning, I was setting up and I saw, me and my manager saw a guy pull up to the trash can outside
Starting point is 02:24:49 and he dug around in it for like 20 minutes. When we turned the lights on, he ran off with a small baggie of something. Later on that day, he showed up through the drive-thru and got mad when we didn't have the biscuits ready. That's fucking great. Let's see. My, I guess the most common would be person
Starting point is 02:25:08 that can clearly afford their groceries at my grocery store. Oh. Getting caught with like a food item, like a large food item all the way in their mouth and you just be, and I did the same thing every time and it always resulted in the same thing. You just look at them and you just go really
Starting point is 02:25:30 and then they look down at the fucking floor and they grab the box of whatever. They got super caught. The one that springs to mind is a guy that had a whole passion flaky, just disappearing in his fucking mouth. That's a fair size. And I look at him and he's like,
Starting point is 02:25:45 wearing like nice clothes. He's not a homeless guy. He's not desperate for food. He just decided to do it. He's like, really? And he goes, and he grabs the box and he trudges over to the fucking cache. And it's like, you fucking animal.
Starting point is 02:25:58 You fucking piece of shit. Liam. He slinked off to the closet, teed ice cream, fuck off. Like, I don't know, like actually doing something like embarrassing, I don't know, but I remember in high school, seeing a kid, we had this really big hill at the back of the school,
Starting point is 02:26:20 really big, really steep. We weren't really supposed to slide on it or anything, but we did whenever we could. Because it was fucking cool. And I remember being in class and looking out the window and there was a kid out there for some reason. I don't know why he was out there. And he had a sled on the top of the hill
Starting point is 02:26:35 and he was just kind of running and like landing on it and like snowboarding on it, like just left and right on the top of the hill. And at one point he did that and it just shot out from under him and he fell and rolled down the entire hill and then like tried to get up with like a cool pose thing and fell over again.
Starting point is 02:26:51 And like it was just, it was just a whole awkward thing. And I just remember laughing at it in class quietly. I see why you didn't appreciate it. Okay. It's a really big hill. Like you roll for like seven or eight or nine seconds. Like it was a big ass hill. My vote goes to dark side fill.
Starting point is 02:27:08 Oh yeah, that's pretty good. Yeah, I guess that counts, doesn't it? I've got one though, it predates my existence and it's back when my dad was working as a contracted electrician back in the day. And he did, he occasionally did contract work for Bell or other phone companies to hook up phone lines. And what he did was is that you,
Starting point is 02:27:30 how you do this is you hook in a new one, you gotta cut the old shit and route it through. So you get your, your fuck giant ladder and you, you actually lean it against the power lines in order to, or sorry, the phone line and the power lines and all that so that you can get up that high. And he waved to a nice lady that was in the backyard
Starting point is 02:27:54 that he was in the backyard, you know, kind of overseeing in those suburban fences. And she was very pretty. And she was like, hey, and they flirted a bit. And she's like, okay, bye repairman. And she went back into her house and my dad was like checking her out like through the, the screen door.
Starting point is 02:28:07 And then he cut the phone line that the ladder was on because he wasn't fucking paying attention. And just, we're talking the fucking 18 foot ladder tumble. Just all of a sudden, just all of a sudden, just nothing. Bam. Did he break anything? No. Wow, lucky.
Starting point is 02:28:27 And he tells me that the very first thing he did was he jumped up and just started scanning everywhere. Cause it makes a lot of noise. Like, did anyone see that? Yeah. Anyone see that? No, no one saw that. Did she see that?
Starting point is 02:28:39 No. Okay. No, she was in the house. Fuck. And the other one, I will nominate myself for a dumbest thing. Cause I thought no one was watching, which was I was on the pillars of eternity stream
Starting point is 02:28:53 with German spy and plague of gripes. And instead of my Yeti microphone being the microphone being used, it was in fact my headphones. And I did not realize this. And then went to the bathroom and took a piss. What's that one I was on? You were totally there, plague. And me going to take a piss is fucking raw live recorded.
Starting point is 02:29:19 The tinkle, the drip, the flush, all of it. Only for me to come back and go, you guys heard me take a piss? And then I think you said plague. It's like, it's like we were in the room. And then I checked the. Then I checked the, the sound device tab to discover that, uh-oh, uh-oh, uh-oh, uh-oh, uh-oh.
Starting point is 02:29:42 The tinkle, the flush, and the. There was a lot of pressure. I am so glad I didn't go in there and take a shit. The pissing is not the bad part. That's the bad part. If it's like, yeah. Oh, oh, yeah, I needed that piss. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:30:00 I'm going to break this turd in half. And then you hear him start clapping after he's done. Well, we were. Woo, yeah. Not my proudest moment. Plague. Yeah, there's not many people to choose from around here. So it's not like I see many people in my daily life
Starting point is 02:30:20 that are not aware they're being watched. So usually it just, you know, the only real example I can really think of is just like my now dead grandfather, like taking a piss out in the middle of his yard because it's the fucking country. And even if they notice you, like, eh, they'll just shrug, go back to pissing. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:30:41 What are you going to do? Yeah. It's all right. It's like, well, we're in the fucking woods. What are you going to do? You're going to call the cops. Your family member, I don't give a shit. Fair enough.
Starting point is 02:30:50 So that's it. Big history of family pissing on things and not caring. Well, because Plague doesn't count it as embarrassing when he catches people fucking goats and stuff. Sure, yeah. It's an inconvenience. Jordan asks, do AirBud and MVP, most valuable primate, play for Avon Barksdale or Prop Joe?
Starting point is 02:31:10 MVP or Prop Joe? Right away. Right away. Because I see Prop Joe taking the time out to actually go behind the scenes and, you know, trying to get that monkey up. What are the two ladder things? Because I know the animals.
Starting point is 02:31:24 The wire. The, okay. Yeah, sorry. Can't answer that. Yeah, probably. Because AirBud would be the ringer that Avon pranks in because this is a dog that can play basketball and soccer. And I'm way more happy about just Prop Joe
Starting point is 02:31:37 sweating and walking up and down, yelling at a monkey that's not listening to him. And then getting shit in his face from MVP shit getting flung at. Yeah, that fits Prop Joe to the team. Right on his big ass fucking like expensive suit. Yeah, that's what I saw. 100 degrees out here and you're wearing a suit
Starting point is 02:31:52 within the clipboard with nothing on it. Ah, ah, Prop Joe, you're the greatest. Ah, your nephew's a shit. Bradley asks, hey, guys, just finished a recently finished a game that I have just recently finished a game that after beating the game that the title screen completely changes to something super cool. And it made me think, what's your favorite alternate title screen?
Starting point is 02:32:19 Near is a good touch. MGS 2 switches to ride it. Yeah, near is really good. I might have said MGS 2, but he just took it. Yeah, yeah. I can think of an inverse of that. And it's a version of Resident Evil 4. Oh, where the title screen turns to shit.
Starting point is 02:32:35 Bayonetta does it as well. Bravely Default has a good thing with the title screen. I think I like the last story and how every chapter of the game has a different title screen. Right, sometimes you miss it if you play for a long session that goes right past a chapter. But wherever you stop, you come back to a moment that is. Yeah, I don't have anything beyond the ones that were just.
Starting point is 02:32:58 Soma does that too, doesn't it? Soma does do that as you go through the game. Yes. Oh, yeah, yes, you're right. I played one long session. The image of the face on the Soma title screen gradually becomes less human looking over the course of the game.
Starting point is 02:33:13 Thank you, Plague. That's actually a really good call. MGS 2, yeah, that's really good. Matt says, hey, super creative, name things. If Matt and cheese is referred to as craft dinner in Canada, then why isn't cereal referred to as Kellogg's breakfast? OK, because it's like, OK, there's a joke, but no, it's not actually like you
Starting point is 02:33:37 don't go to a restaurant and order craft dinner. It's macaroni and cheese. The craft dinner is the brand. It's the brand. It's like when you get a Jell-O pudding. OK, not all pulling is putting is Jell-O. Well, no, no, no, there is a distinction. When Americans want craft mac and cheese,
Starting point is 02:33:52 they say craft mac and cheese or mac and cheese. Because that's what the product's called. But we call it craft dinner. Yeah, because that's what the product's called here. Yeah, KD. KD, actually. And when KD is specifically referring to that blue box with the yak and cheese,
Starting point is 02:34:04 like when I go to a breakfast place and I want a mac and cheese with rigatoni and shit. You don't ask her craft dinner. I ask for mac and cheese. What was the question? A restaurant to eat macaroni and cheese. Breakfast place? It's a rigatoni and like Kellogg's breakfast.
Starting point is 02:34:16 Kellogg's breakfast. Bunch of different, you know, cheeses. It's not because it's not called that. KB. I know, but it's not Canadian convention. They never tried. If they would try, they would do it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:34:28 Eh, not even a word, whatever. It's fine. Christmas Cast, four. I have a seasonal query from, this is from Hero. So Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer begins with, you know, Dasher and Dancer and Prancer and Vixen and Comet and Cupid and Daughter and Blitzen. I don't know them.
Starting point is 02:34:46 But do you recall the most famous reindeer of all? I'm acquaintances with them. Which makes me ask, did anyone actually know the other reindeer before this song's existence? No way. And if Rudolph is the most famous reindeer, then why do we need to recall him? Songs bullshit.
Starting point is 02:35:01 Early Christmas to you guys. Songs bullshit. Yeah, I wonder where is the origin of the other reindeer? I'm pretty sure, no, I'm pretty sure that you do know it because of, it was the night before Christmas and all through the house, that whole poem. Does that predate that? Introduces all of them except for Rudolph.
Starting point is 02:35:20 Oh, it just hit my toe really hard. So which one comes first, I wonder? That one. That's a fucking, it must be that one. It's from the 1800s or whatever. That's super old. But that, I'm pretty sure. I don't know, I'm not pretty sure.
Starting point is 02:35:33 But I feel like the lore existed with their names. And then. I have no idea. I didn't read the Bible. They shoved you in while. No, watch it turn out that each of them are like based on political opponents back in like 1834.
Starting point is 02:35:47 Well, some of the names are really cool. Blitzen? Even Dancer's cool if it's given to the right person. Donner, Donner is a bit weird. Donner could be good though. Dasher's fine. They're Mega Man parts. Anyway.
Starting point is 02:36:03 Cupid sounds suspicious for a reindeer. Yeah. That reindeer fucked my girlfriend. Oh no, damn you Cupid. That's not Cupid like at all. Oh yeah, no. Cupid made me fall in love with that goat. You're thinking of Chad the reindeer.
Starting point is 02:36:17 I'm thinking of Chad the reindeer. I'm thinking of Chad the reindeer. Get away. Get the fuck away from me, Chad. Stop it. I feel bad for the new generation of Chad's growing up in a world in which being a Chad is a fucking piece of shit.
Starting point is 02:36:27 I only know one Chad and he's just like this five foot four kind of, you know, dumpy. He was never good at sports. He's a teacher now and he has a kid. I've never known a single Chad. I've also been fortunate enough to not know a single Chad. And he's a very good person. Sure.
Starting point is 02:36:43 Yeah, yeah. But yeah, yeah. It's kind of like the bills of last generation. Like no one's named Bill anymore. People, there's Bill Ease, but no one really has. Definitely no Barney's anymore. I don't know any children named Bill. Do you know any children?
Starting point is 02:36:59 Oh, there's kids in my family. Won't be any Martha soon either. OK, good, because that's a prerequisite there. Yeah. And lastly, we'll take one from Pariah and he says, I hate that guy. Dr. Robotnik had his name changed in English to Dr. Eggman in Sonic Adventure.
Starting point is 02:37:14 That's bullshit. But he's never been referred to as Robotnik since in the games. But in Japanese, he was always Dr. Eggman, which makes a safe egg zone, makes sense. Yeah. Bowser's Japanese is just King Koopa. Japanese name is just King Koopa. Even Groose's name changed from its original.
Starting point is 02:37:32 Bado. Bado? Yeah. Bado. Then there's the whole Bison Vega, Ballard, Fiasco. How do you feel about renaming characters for different languages? I really, OK.
Starting point is 02:37:45 I wish people, I wish, like, if you can help it, don't do it. I was just talking about, like, this being a huge pet pee for me, like, two hours ago with Sydney, Cindy, and Tori, Tori, Tori, Chaco. Yeah, that's true, yeah. OK, when the name translates fine, when it's a normal name that isn't super weird and for them, don't change.
Starting point is 02:38:06 Come on, don't do it. The Bison Vega, Ballard, thing could have easily been avoided. They could have even fixed it. And I wouldn't have cared. Just fix it. Just fix it. I'm fine with that. If they fixed it next generation, if it was suddenly right.
Starting point is 02:38:19 But it'd probably be too weird. Well, like, Final Fantasy early on decided, OK, we have to start numbering these properly, because nobody knows what the fuck. I don't know. I'm way for keeping the original name. But Bado sucks the original name, Shipping Groose. That's a really, yeah, that's a really good one.
Starting point is 02:38:36 Like, in Japanese, it should have been Groose. Pick the one good name for all territories, please. I think they caught that, yeah. You should, if you're making whatever it is, you should pick a name that is going to be able to be something you can translate well. Yeah, yeah. Don't pick something that has eight syllables
Starting point is 02:38:52 and not only makes sense in the original Japanese. Unless there's a really good reason, yeah. There's an inverse of that, and it's like Aris versus Arith. Yeah. Like, I cannot stand Arith. I can't stand it. Me too. Yeah, TH just, it's too awkward.
Starting point is 02:39:08 It's just too awkward in the name. It's in the wrong place. And even whatever you spell it, the character there at the end can mean either an S or a TH, because the Japanese don't have a TH sound. Yeah. If they don't have a TH sound, then why the fuck would it be TH?
Starting point is 02:39:21 Because they see the word Earth, and they're like, oh, that kind of looks the same. And they don't realize it sounds awful in English. And some people have a lisp, where a Japanese type of lisp adds TH to S sounds, you know? So like a certain character, when they want to say like, so, so, they say like, so, so. And it's a very particular thing.
Starting point is 02:39:41 Man, I'll give a fuck, just to pick the name that I like. They even say, and the same thing with Trico and Toriko, is because they don't have just a T. You get T in a vowel. But point being, try to translate as close as you possibly can, and give the localization of whatever people, enough liberties that they're not going to screw it up, and everyone's going to blame them.
Starting point is 02:40:01 Just name every single character, Michael Wilson. At the end of the day, even if you have to change a name, it's a lesser, it's not really a huge problem, you know? It's like. The only time it annoys me, is when the name would have been fine. That's the only time it annoys me, is Toriko and Sidney, are the ones that really bug me,
Starting point is 02:40:18 because like, those are fine. Those are good names. I don't mind Sidney, but Sidney was also bad. Because of the reference to Sid, but yeah, but I don't know, I guess they just. Well, because it changes her from that game Sid, to her grandpa being Sid, who just named Sid. But like.
Starting point is 02:40:35 It sucks, but I guess someone just went like, oh, everyone's messing it up, and everyone's saying Sidney, and they're forgetting it. I don't know why. I will die in my grave before I accept Tina. You'll die in your grave. Tina Bradford. That's a hill where I'm dying on.
Starting point is 02:40:48 You'll get into your grave before you die. I'm staying here until the end. I'll die in my grave, yeah. Repour the acid on top of me. David blame me, until I change my mind. Oh, I won't. Actually, I wanted to get this one in here. Because I scrolled up.
Starting point is 02:41:03 Eat the dirt, Tina Bradford. Get the fuck out of here. Dear cast, cast, cast, cast. Chatterbox is asking, what are some of the most egregious examples of a weapon armor or other item in an A in a game that has an immense plot or story character significance? But super little, incredibly little application
Starting point is 02:41:23 in terms of gameplay. The foresedge. In Dragon Age Origins, there's an amulet that is filled with the blood of your fallen comrades and it's given to you following a traumatic event that traumatic event in the game. And it's treated with great reverence and importance. It gives you plus two constitution.
Starting point is 02:41:41 Pretty much every one of Igarashi's Castlevania games has a piece of equipment that you have to equip to get to the other castle or to the, you know, whatever the second half of the whatever. And almost every time it's not optimal gear. No, every time it's not optimal gear. And that includes like area of sorrow where you have to equip souls that are,
Starting point is 02:42:02 while not, they're not terrible souls, they are just outclassed by other ones. Nearly every single computer RPG in the style of Baldur's Gate has this problem in which you're often told about this fucking badass mythic super thought. Especially that it's plate mail plus one. But the problem is they have to give it to you in the story.
Starting point is 02:42:23 So that would, making it too powerful would make all the end game shit obsolete. Elder Girls Scames. Elder Scrolls, oh yeah, oh yeah. Especially if you were quiet, like if it's a scaling thing where there are different versions of the same thing, if you get it too early in the game,
Starting point is 02:42:37 it's a pile of garbage. The worst one in Skyrim to me is the Shroud of the Nocturnal, which is the literal cloak of shadow from the deity of sneaking around in Thievery. That's cool. And you get at the end of this exhaustive Thief quest and it's this fucking Batman looking Shroud thing.
Starting point is 02:42:56 And it sucked a bunch of shit compared to the gear I made myself. It sucked shit. I think mouth right up to a butthole. I think, go ahead. The inverse of that though is whenever the thing, like if you have a crafting system and you make something, you love the look of it.
Starting point is 02:43:14 It has the exact thing that you want. And then you realize, oh, there's something that has the exact same stats except it has one more number, one special buff. And it's a unique thing that looks like a pile of garbage. So it's the weapon. So your whole crafting is just useless. I think...
Starting point is 02:43:30 God bless the ability to change the aesthetics on something by taking it off of something else. I think Fire Emblem is really good at not doing that. Where like in Fire Emblem, you buy your iron sword and you look over to the side and you see a little number next to it. And you're like, what's that number? Oh, that's the durability.
Starting point is 02:43:44 After I hit with it that many times, the weapon just is broken, right? So the Fire Emblem games, a bunch of them, a handful of missions before the end, as much as like eight in one case. They'll be like, here is the Durandal. Here is the soul cut. Here's the strongest weapon, the legendary weapon.
Starting point is 02:44:02 We only got one of them. And you get it in your inventory and you're like, yeah. And then you look next to it and it's got that durability number. And you're like, oh. And you're like, I have to save this. You know what that reminds me of? You know what game also does this extremely well?
Starting point is 02:44:17 What's that? It's 15. Well, you get those, you get those royal arms. The Armourers. And they are, they are busted stronger than everything else. But they come with severe downsides to balance them out. So they're offensive megalixers? Kind of something like that.
Starting point is 02:44:33 You don't want to use them? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's they train, they drain your health and they drain your health a lot. Like not a little. Rapidly. Like rapidly. But they are like five times as strong as what I have now.
Starting point is 02:44:47 They're crazy. You can, you're equipping like a 400 plus fucking damage thing on a character that's usually carrying around shits that's 42. Below 100. Yeah. That sucks. Do you equip it for a little while?
Starting point is 02:45:01 And you're like, yes, it's great. But then like you hit that one battle where you're like, oh, no, no. This is all going downhill purely because of my decision. So instead what you do is you just equip them on your person to get their buff, but not use them.
Starting point is 02:45:13 But you don't use them. There's something that is sort of similar to that. And it's the Zelda franchise. The Master Sword is the most amazing sword ever, but it's kind of just a damage upgrade usually. But it's the only thing as a plot device, it's the only thing that is allowed to hurt certain enemies. Yeah, before the end of the game,
Starting point is 02:45:32 you're going to have to sort that out. It's not the exact same thing. It's a damage upgrade. And in some games, you also get a projectile out of it. That's true. Your hearts are full. Like Bigger On Sword was a thing. So Bigger On Sword, it's stronger in a couple games,
Starting point is 02:45:45 but it has its flip side, which is like, if you have the knife in Ocarina, it's useless. You need to have the sword. And even then, the sword's a lot slower. I think the only one where the Master Sword is genuinely outclassed by the Bigger On Sword is Oracle of Seasons, where you get the Bigger On Sword and it swings for two tiles.
Starting point is 02:46:04 Two tiles is crazy. Because that game, a screen is like 12 by 12 tiles. Yeah. But I think usually the Master Sword, it is the best, but yeah. I really hope it's not going to be the case in Breath of the Wild since you can find so many weapons. I hope it doesn't turn out, oh no,
Starting point is 02:46:22 you just need to use the Master Sword. I wonder how they're going to handle it in Breath of the Wild. I don't know. I imagine the Master Sword will be the dead last thing you get at the very end. Maybe, yeah. In some of the release materials. Or it's a holy upgrade too.
Starting point is 02:46:33 Well, I would imagine that the Master Sword would be, it's general purpose free use would be something associated with either a post game or a new game plus, because you cannot have the Master Sword break. That's bullshit. They have shown him with it in a scene that people have theorized is very early in the game, which is okay.
Starting point is 02:46:50 Oh well, fuck me, fuck me to death. Because it'd be cool if like, like at specific instances, you could, like he could call it in, you know what I mean? And that was how they handled it or something. I don't mind the Master Sword. The Master Sword's design is fine. I'm really glad it's not the Master Katana,
Starting point is 02:47:06 that's for sure. But I would like to have the option of using other things. I don't wanna be married to it. Yeah, I hear ya. It would wake our, I can't just use one sword for the rest of my life. Yep.
Starting point is 02:47:18 I want different flavors of M&Ms, but they're all the same flavor, shut up. Speaking about the rest of your life, what are you looking forward to? What's coming up? What's coming out? Let's see, I'm, oh, after you, after you, we'll be sorry, after you.
Starting point is 02:47:30 Yeah, I haven't spent any time, so I'm looking forward to playing a little bit with what I will call, Mufasa Kuma. Yeah. Oh. Is he out now? Is he out Tuesday? I believe he's out, I believe he's out.
Starting point is 02:47:47 And I need to see what the lion's mane is like up close. Mufasa! The fuck are you talking about? Akuma. Oh, Jesus Christ. Cause he looks like Mufasa a little bit. He's that soon? He's got a big old lion mane on him,
Starting point is 02:48:00 and I believe he's out right now. It looks like a shitty peek in these. I wanna hopefully get through FF15 so I can play The Last of Us. Sorry, The Last of Us, The Last Guardian. The Last Guardian. The Last of Us Guardians. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 02:48:14 You know, Ellie, you really are. We really are. 3,500 year old bird dragon. I really hope that game ends with, you know, Joel, we really are The Last of Us part two. Like that would be wonderful. That'd be great. That'd be the best thing, actually.
Starting point is 02:48:26 I wanna get back to Lara Croft Go and polish that off in Shantae as well. And the new saga came out. The 15th in Japan. And I'm so excited to get my copy of it cause I've been reading people's hands-on impressions, dude. Not that, not the comic. The one that's really interesting
Starting point is 02:48:43 with the baker who builds the tower to God. I know, that does sound really interesting. Dude, I've been reading hands-on impressions and like, so this saga doesn't have dungeons or towns. It just has spots on the map you can go to. And it's just a world map and there's battles in some of those spots. And people were really worried that it was like,
Starting point is 02:49:01 oh, this game's just gonna get ravaged quality-wise because of its budget. And now that people are playing it and I'm reading their impressions, they're like, no, all the chaff is gone. You're just going from important thing to important thing and it's great. The baby's identity will be revealed.
Starting point is 02:49:16 Dude, the moment you step out of the first town in the game as a certain character, a black-robed character runs across the map. There's just stuff that happens in this game all the time, that's crazy. And I want to know the identity of the baby. It will be revealed. I can't wait for it to be revealed.
Starting point is 02:49:33 Our mother will be found. Reveal yourself to me, child. There's a baker in the game who's a character because there's like 80 different party members you can get and he just makes churros and sells them at the main city. But one day he has a revelation and starts building a tower to God.
Starting point is 02:49:48 Fair. What's your deal? Yeah. The cast is just, and there's one of the main characters, Balmaint, and he's an executioner. As he goes to execute someone, the person says he's gonna come back six more times
Starting point is 02:50:03 to chase Balmaint down. And I'm pretty sure the game starts and Balmaint's already killed him three times. It's like everyone... That's great. There's a potter and she's fine and she's just doing pottery. And one day her pottery starts getting weird.
Starting point is 02:50:18 She can just feel it. She's a master potter and she's just like something's wrong with the world. And she's the main character you can just start the game as and her whole premise is I know something's wrong. I gotta go figure this shit out. Yeah. The writing in the saga games is always on point
Starting point is 02:50:36 but this one seems really special. So I'm excited to get that. Also looking forward to opening up my senses and going through the world that's with you and actually making some headway because the power is yet unknown. Yeah. Picking away at pillars of eternity still.
Starting point is 02:50:54 I'm grinding away at my fucking shiny sword I'm one week away. I'm going to be done very soon. 14? Yes. No, no, the sword. It looks very shiny. Looks very pretty.
Starting point is 02:51:05 That's good. Does it have a bird on it? No. But it does have a cool name. It's called the guillotine of the tyrant. That's not bad. It's pretty good. That's not bad.
Starting point is 02:51:13 There's a lot of characters. It's hoping for Big Shiner. That's what it's called in Japanese. Well, the next step is to make it shiny. Oh. I see. Literally. You're a big shiner.
Starting point is 02:51:24 I'm hoping to play a bunch more at 15, hopefully, on stream. Yeah. What else am I fucking doing with my life? Eat ice cream. Maybe I'll play Warlords with you on my phone. Maybe I'll do that. Maybe it's time. Still quite a good game.
Starting point is 02:51:40 Maybe that's time. Did you go through that? You won't do that. The first one. The first time, rather. I think you bounced off it. I bounced right the fuck off it because I was like, touch controls, suck my dick.
Starting point is 02:51:49 Yeah, okay. And then Liam was like, no, it's really good, though. So it's like, I get it. The past, the puck is gone, but the combat's still the combat, you know? It's... You said a combat? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:52:01 Yes. Fuck it. Like a letter off. Roll with a plague. There's a flying red. I don't want to meet. Wait, what? Oh, my thing that I'm looking for.
Starting point is 02:52:11 Okay. Slash that you already drew and uploaded right now. Yes, yes. It's still need to do something like that. I've asked a woolly and Patton so on. Anyone? I mean, if they want to... If you guys want to do something,
Starting point is 02:52:28 as far as like another Picardo thing sometimes, and I haven't thought about what it's going to be yet, but I'll do something like that in the future. There's a lot, this will be like next time, next year, I guess, before I'm on again, if so. What are you doing on... Everything in the next year. I will be looking forward to,
Starting point is 02:52:48 I guess the Pokemon Bank opening up will be a thing. Oh, yeah. I've been playing Sun and Moon. Boy, does the Pokemon series have a lot of problems. And while whenever February rolls around, the 13th for Honor will finally be released, it's NDA right now, but the beta before this one was not NDA.
Starting point is 02:53:11 So technically you could talk about it, but... So just pretend you talk about the old one. That's going to be a good game. It has a, like as far as that beta goes when it's not NDA, it has a big spike where you have no idea what's going on, and then you get over that hurdle, it's like, oh, okay. Oh, it's a learning cliff?
Starting point is 02:53:33 Yes, it was a learning cliff game. Xenoverse 2 DLC is going to come out soon. You guys don't give a shit about Xenoverse 2 right now. Oh boy, oh boy, don't I? You're in there, huh? It's not a great game. It's not a great game. But it's not a creative character.
Starting point is 02:53:48 Yes, that is what Xenoverse survived on. I feel you, I feel you. If creative character was not in Xenoverse, like Xenoverse, yeah, Xenoverse was awful. Did you play Fusions or are you interested to play Fusions? People have mentioned it because, ha ha, Fusions, yeah, I get it. Because I hear it's quite good,
Starting point is 02:54:07 and I love all the Fusions with Arale, like there's some really nice designs in there. It's one of those things where there's a dude when she fuses, they get that hat. Yeah, I love that. And then some, so. Fucking love that hat. That's when I'm, I don't wanna play it,
Starting point is 02:54:20 I wanna watch videos of people showing the things. That makes sense. And some of them, they're too literal with some of the Fusions I've noticed. A lot of the times they don't combine their elements. They, like Tien and Yamcha is a great example, and this is a, actually this is not a Fusions problem. It was back in like a Budokai 3,
Starting point is 02:54:41 I forget where it first showed up. But he's basically this Tien, except he's balding, and he has like hair shooting out the back of his head. It looks awful. Oh, that sounds great. It's fucking awful, and it's amazing. Just like Dragon Ball. So, I guess I will quote unquote be looking forward to that.
Starting point is 02:54:57 I really hope another Dragon Ball game has creative characters, because I need my insert say in women. Well, it definitely seems like that's been a huge success for them, so. Is it a character in part two? Marginally, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 02:55:12 Kind of. They still don't allow for, possibly we're flipping it. I have mods that allow me to get around this problem. Like, I have mods that make it so that my say in ladies actually had their fucking tails, which they should, they're animated and everything. I can actually color all of the equipment into the game. And the base game, if you don't have mods,
Starting point is 02:55:30 like console version, if you get like Goku's Gi or something like that, it's gonna be orange. You don't have a choice in the matter. But thankfully, with mods, you can just make it so that you have a blue version of it, or something like that. And you can do that with mods. It seems really arbitrary that they would do that.
Starting point is 02:55:45 It is, and for the life of me, I don't really know why they do that. The mod is kind of forcing the issue, so whenever you use their existing palette, like you don't get a color wheel. You have to use a palette, a swatches. You have to use swatches. And some of the swatches look absolutely terrible.
Starting point is 02:56:03 So I think it has something to do with, out of the mask or something you're using, I'm not really sure how they're handling it exactly, but some of them look pretty bad. Some of them look just perfect. So there's no telling. It might be some Japanese thing where they don't want to discredit
Starting point is 02:56:18 the original source material or something. I don't know. It's some weird thing like that. Goku's Gi is iconic. Something like that. That's what I wanted. If there's PC modding going on, then the fans can throw the dead or alive characters in there.
Starting point is 02:56:33 Yeah, the fans can make sense for whatever you're not getting. If you can do that. So, all right. There's a lot of mods. There's a lot of inappropriate mods too. So those are floating around as well. Now that I wouldn't stall such a thing. No, of course not.
Starting point is 02:56:46 Say that again. Especially not streaming. A lot of inappropriate mods floating around. The ultimate life form, honkers. You mean the chaos symbol? Why? I have a pet set of honkers right here. I have Super Saiyan Blue right here.
Starting point is 02:57:05 God, was it Rouge Rose Red? What is it? We are not doing it. Super Saiyan Rose. Rose, Rose. We are not doing it. People got really confused with that. It didn't bother me because Super Saiyan Blue
Starting point is 02:57:19 is what happens whenever a mortal obtains the ability to use God Key by transforming into a Super Saiyan. That's how they access it. And fade in the Christmas music. Oh boy, here we go. And Super Saiyan Rose is what happens whenever you already have God Key
Starting point is 02:57:33 and then you become a Super Saiyan. Pretty simple. Enjoy your Christmas music. Thanks. Thanks for... Thanks Eli. Thanks for coming along. And everybody out there having Merry Christmas.
Starting point is 02:57:46 Have a happy new year. Happy holidays. And all that fun stuff. And all that fun stuff. C'mon. C'mon. C'mon. C'mon.
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