Castle Super Beast - SBFC 182: Inbred Hulk Babies Are Owned by Marvel (feat. Brennan Williams)

Episode Date: January 31, 2017

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All right, that's us hot. We're on. We are on. We're two black friends playing. That's two black friends where we play video games and braid each other's dreadlocks. What up? That was a dead chair that was that you were staring at with no one in it because some motherfuckers can't show up on time even though it's three hours later than usual. I was told I was told now that when I was convinced to come onto this podcast that this was a professional podcast now. The professional podcast. This was a professional podcast by professional boys and well there's a professional boy that's missing so he doesn't seem very professional. Someone lied to you and it wasn't me for once. So I don't know what the fuck is
Starting point is 00:01:05 going on there but I have decided to do what we do when this happens and we will now commence properly shitting on Pat until he walks into the studio live. It's gonna be great. He's gonna walk with really short steps because he's got stubby legs. Yeah, it's gonna take him a minute. He said he's no more than five away but we know that means 15 because they're half steps. This is one of those moments where you're like, you know, you joke about like you have one job. You have one job. You had one job. Literally one job. All he had to do was wake up and walk into this room today. That's all he had to do. I did my other job today and I'm still here. So it's really unacceptable. And speaking of jobs, there goes Billy who's walking out because he just did a job well done,
Starting point is 00:01:56 sir. Thank you to Billy our editor who's doing his job showing up. Everybody's got a job and everybody's got a job. Everyone's got a job and people, you know. Some people have more than one job. Yeah, you know, the stereotypically Jamaicans have like eight or nine jobs. Yes, we do. I don't know if your family was like that, but my dad like every couple years was like, so what do you do? Oh, okay, you're in a different industry entirely. Right. Okay, that's the proper Caribbean thing to do is to have more than one job and because you're not a legit parent unless you're holding down your family and perhaps your other family and no, because you need to you need to be if you have time off, you should be working. That's so if you're if you're not working, then
Starting point is 00:02:47 honestly, you're being a bad dad. But it's weird because like at the same time, like I've roomed, I had a lived with a Chinese family for a couple of years with a good friend of mine. And you know, there's a like a work ethic to like that culture as well that's similar. But I feel like the Jamaican way of doing things is more about talking about how many jobs you have. And yeah, you complain about it, but you're not it's not actually that hard because you're not really doing them. You're not exactly exactly it. You know, I can I can like my dad at one point, he had a paper mill. At one point, he was a social worker. At one point, he had real estate. Like he has all these jobs, but I've never actually seen him at work. Yeah, it's never actually working.
Starting point is 00:03:30 He's just talking about what's on the menu. Yeah, actually, I come from my grandmother's from the island. So she's Jamaican. But she's actually an uppity Jamaican. She lived up on the she lived up on the hill in the nice houses. Like she was she got to see the queen when she came in town and stuff. Oh, all right. All right. So like, there was actually for the longest time, I wanted to get dreadlocks. But my grandmother was like, no, that's what that's for the poor people. So I never had I never experienced the multi jobs because we you know, we had one good job. Okay. But but but the they didn't they didn't want you to have the look of the people from straight from the yacht, as they say. Yeah, that would be not good. It's that would bring
Starting point is 00:04:20 shame upon my house. Of course, of course. And I you know, I had the discussion as well early on when I was getting my hair, like when my little twists were growing out. And I remember having the talk where it was like, look, you know, well, first, there's the biblical side where, you know, a man shouldn't have hair that looks like a woman's or whatever they there. So there's a there's a Bible verse that talks about that kind of look. And I was like, OK, whatever, I don't care about that. I think Samson had dreads. Yeah, he did. It's the big deal. Literally dreads. Right. What do you like they talked about his locks getting cut off and you had power because of them. So what the fuck losing? Yeah. Yeah, I never wanted to lose power.
Starting point is 00:04:56 So I haven't cut my hair since I was like, I don't know, got 13. Yeah. OK. For me, for me, it's like since the year 2000 was the last time, you know, that's my that's my counter on it. Yeah. But at one point, I remember when like eventually when that the biblical explanation made no sense. And it was like, well, look, you're going to have a hard time finding a job and getting work because, you know, people are going to look at you and feel a certain kind of way. They're well, I don't plan on getting no normie job. Exactly. Normie jobs are for normies and I'm no normie. Fuck all that shit. Thank you, sir. Yeah. I went to college to play football and I did that. And then I was like, oh, football is done. Let me go be a pro wrestler. And then
Starting point is 00:05:39 when that's done, I don't know what I'm going to do, but it's not going to be working at a desk. It's not. Yeah, it's not going to be this dumb fucking thing. Well, I don't want to work anywhere where that matters. I don't want to work with people who care about that. I don't want friends that give a shit about that. Like if that's going to affect anything, then you're just you're it's actually helping me filter you the fuck out of my life. Yeah, I don't want to I'll never get anything that I can't undo because I might be old someday and I don't want to, you know, have a, you know, a face tattoo or something. Right, right. But is my mic sound all right? Sorry. Your mic is your mic is cutting out. Weird. It's like it's like I'm getting the beginning of your sentences,
Starting point is 00:06:23 but like some of the ends are starting to cut out. So I'm going to I'm going to monitor it and we might need to like, you know, try and reconnect the call. In the meantime, some sort of some sort of creature has wandered in a red bull, a red creature with a red bull. So so he's getting his headphones and he's plugging himself in. So while he works that out in the meantime, I think you sound okay. But if you don't, then we'll we'll we'll just let me know. Yes. But that's exactly it, dude. I'm so glad that like it is on the point. It's on the level. Oh, I guess I should here. Let me switch the camera up so you can plug yourself plug yourself. You've literally done this for years now. Plug yourself into the thing. Point the mic at your face and talk into it. It ain't that hard.
Starting point is 00:07:13 My my audible. Turn my mic on. Yeah. Is he ready to do his one job? Oh, hey, Brandon. How you doing, man? Hey, Pat. How you doing, man? I'm pretty good. I have more than one job. So when did you start growing out your dreadlocks? When did you first? Or when did you lose power? I should say, when were your dreads shaved off? And then you were all born with dreads. They were shaved off by God. Well, Delilah was originally that. Yeah, that's the Shin Megami Tensei myth is that we're all born with dreads. And eventually Delilah comes and shaves them off if you're weak. Basically. And when you and when you feel like I missed something really important,
Starting point is 00:07:56 height, good genes, longevity. Oh, no, longevity is the bad one. That's an immune system. My immune system is great. I didn't get killed by a fucking amp like somebody I know. Hey, those things just make you stronger, man. That's not true. You have a horrible fucking pit in your leg now. Do an amp. It's become a spot and it's just. Oh, it filled in. Yeah. Isn't that nice? Look at that. Hey, how about that? There you are. Drink your energy. Wake yourself up. Do the one thing that. I have the extra big boy camp. Big boys. Big boys. All right. Big cans for big boys. Jesus Christ. So so traffic sucks this time of day. We should remember that next time we have the podcast at 4 p.m. Yeah. I mean, it is the
Starting point is 00:08:40 beginning of rush hour. Rush hour starts at like three. Yeah. You just you counterbalance it. You know, you started earlier. So anyway, Brennan, long time no chat. Obviously, you've been busy. You know, we missed you at Mac Fest this year. I know I really wanted to go. How was it? It was good. It was fan fucking tastic. It was a good ass time. We, you know, the crew united and I guess like your role was filled in by Super Eye Patch Wolf, who's like the new guy in the on the scene. He's. Yes, I love his I love his stuff. Okay. Yeah. And he was on last week and he has been killing it. So that dude's awesome. He's like, I don't know anyone from Dublin. Now I do. That's pretty dope. But I just assume that you're basically at all times on the way to becoming
Starting point is 00:09:31 the greatest. So yeah, I'm going to be king of the pirates. You see, it's safe to assume that, you know, we can't always have everything I do is in is striding towards being the greatest. Basically, exactly. So if I'm not around, it's because I'm trying to be the greatest. Well, why don't we have goals like that? Well, like, like, I could, I could actually sum up all of the best friends goals over times as fuck it. It's fine. Like I saw that like I have like video game goals. Like I saw that that like yascape picture of the guy from Neo, the black guy in Neo that looks super badass. I was like, it's crazy. He's got the bear and he's like huge and he's awesome and he's based on a real guy. Is that your goal? No, I just was like that is my goal.
Starting point is 00:10:26 That's what I want to be a WrestleMania one day. And your hat. Yeah, that guy is halfway there. And like as I clicked post with like like all life goals, I'm like, fuck, wait, shit, you'll get it. You just got to believe. But with that, though, though, I guess it's not the shogun of the row anymore. Can we just go with shogun? Is that shogun of the next T shogun of the NXT? Yeah, that's the that is the plan. I mean, who knows what'll happen, but okay. And I mean, yeah, and obviously, you know, not to not gonna talk work in business because you don't know spoilers. But at what point is the show enough cosplay cost everyone is really looking forward to seeing what the new character design is going to be. Everyone wants
Starting point is 00:11:12 the new everybody wants to see what the the new game redesign is, right? What's the redesign? Yeah, we're working on it. There's some, you know, there's some give and some take is the implication of a time skip. Listen, it can be appreciated in a more subtle manner, reuse, Guy got little changes. He got the little, you know, his belt got more detailed that his gloves got the symbols over time. I feel that's a little subtle for wrestling. Of course, I'm just I'm just saying that you can appreciate a good redesign, whether it's subtle or whether it's overblown it over the top. Will visors be incorporated visors might be incorporated if they like it enough. Yeah, I'll incorporate whatever they want. Honestly, whatever, whatever
Starting point is 00:11:59 happens. Oh, God, damn it. It's yeah. Is there at the very least I just want to know like not the I'm going to get off the topic, but is there like actual like art mockups? Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, because that was actually my thing was that I actually designed my stuff anyway. I'm not you know, I don't have an art background since high school, but I used to be able to do that kind of stuff. So obviously, as soon as you know, I got a chance to move on. There was a billion different things that I wanted to try and do and see if I could do and stuff like that. So I'm kind of just waiting on a green light to do it, you know. Okay, okay. And I guess has the, I don't know, like has the first initial layer of magic kind of like worn off yet? Or is it
Starting point is 00:12:53 still insanely nuts to be working out and having like Shinsuke just walk by or whatever the fuck is happening over there? It's becoming normal. But it's still so weird. It's becoming normal. But yeah, I'm not I'm not quite there yet. There's still, you know, stuff like that still blows my mind every time it happens. Just how quickly it happened to and I don't take that for granted for sure. Because I mean, I'm like, you know, we've been seeing you like popping in more with on up up down down as well. Shout out to Austin. Yeah, hopefully I'll be on it a lot more because I should be hopefully eventually, and I could be completely wrong. But possibly, I'm just trying to throw in as many things in there as possible.
Starting point is 00:13:46 But there's a we're trying to do a performance center wing, because obviously that's that's a base where you know, a lot of guys are there all the time. So when that starts coming around, because of my slight, it's because I'm friends with people on YouTube, really. Okay, okay, I was I'm trusted with it. So your 10 steps ahead of the game, man. Exactly. Yeah, well, you know, like, yeah, but besides being like, you know, an existing presence prior to even stepping foot into the building over there, like, I'm sure, like, within moments of like, sitting down with Austin and like talking about everything, it's like, it's insane how appropriate you are for that kind of channel and that kind of content and everything with, like,
Starting point is 00:14:35 video game. Yeah, it's like, yeah, who would have thought, who would have thought you roll crossovers. Yeah, now that now that we're officially crossing over with crunchy roll, and there's package deals, shit, seriously, no, there's, there's package deals, you can get the network. And I'm probably being a bad salesman right now, but you can get the network and crunchy roll for a reduced price. This makes wrestling canonically. It's the best. Yep. It's the absolute best. I'm not going to take full credit for it. But it didn't happen until I got here. So yep, there you go. Right. At the very least, wrestling is anime confirmed. Because that was a massive change. Thanks, Willie. Okay. We have something's going on with our knobs on this mixer.
Starting point is 00:15:19 Yeah, but minor changes are resulting in like 100% increases in volume. Well, yeah, there's a level of granularity applied to the grain, which I think might have to do with the knobs over the digital knobs, if you would. That's another story entirely. I love digital knobs. So anyway, there's your sound clip, guys, for this week. Dude, it doesn't matter. We've been over this. The isolated clips have overflowed. Anything that anyone wants to use to incriminate us or the weirdest one is that I'm starting to see like clip images of quotes that I don't remember. Of course. The purple man one confused me for a while. There you go. Absolutely. Why would you remember? I mean, you got to figure when you're talking for how many hours every week, you're
Starting point is 00:16:06 going to say some stuff that you're going to regret. Like 10 to 15. Yeah. Yeah. Lots of bad stuff coming. It's like a couple days of you talking. I don't really regret them. I just wish I remembered saying that. But yeah. So with that, dude, what like what have you been up to that you can talk about? Because like, I think we all kind of just looked at the moment you joined and be, you know, became the wrestling. Yeah. Yeah. Becoming the wrestling. It's pretty much what I've been doing since I got there. Just, you know, working and that's really why I'm so busy is because we work, you know, pretty much every day, but Sundays. So we're always doing, we're either training or we're doing shows. So that's kind of what my life is made of right now. And it's a blast. I love it.
Starting point is 00:17:04 It's really weird because it is, you know, a lot of work, but to be able to be doing it and it's something that I am actually really passionate about in a way that I wasn't necessarily passionate about football. It's really cool because it doesn't bother me that, you know, it's longer days or whatever. So, you know, it's just every day is just like, oh, cool. I'll get to go to work and practice some moves and do some promos and stuff like that. So it's really cool. Have you had like those moments of, I don't know how to put this, but it's kind of like, um, you obviously were, you know, but probably like, prior to getting into the business, like, you're very much a SMARC and, you know, knew lots of the ins and outs already.
Starting point is 00:17:48 SMARC, what kind of fucking Carney talk is that says half of our audience? It means, as far as I'm aware, smart to mark. Okay. But what's a mark? A mark is a person who, you know, follows wrestling and knows the ins and outs of the using the lingo. Oh, excuse me. Anyway, let's just become full on carnies. Yeah. So it's, I guess it's kind of like, you know, we, well, for like, at least Matt Liam and I were into video games and then got into QA and then saw the under the underbelly of it. I failed to get into QA unlike the rest of
Starting point is 00:18:29 them. They fucking threw my application in the fucking trash, even with specific recommendations from you guys. We tried. Look, my point is that like, we got into it and we saw it and like, you got to see the truth about some things. And some things were like, oh, whoa, that's, but other things were like, holy shit, that's more incredible than I ever thought it actually was. And I can't talk about it. But you can talk about it ever in some cases. But there's some, but there are amazing sights and sounds that are locked away from NDAs. Like, does that apply to the business as well? Basically the exact same thing. Oh, that's exactly how you described it.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Okay. Just like the highs and lows are way more extreme than you ever could have imagined. Well, because you're actually in it, you think, but when you're not in an industry, right? You, or especially one that you follow so closely, you think you know a lot. And sometimes, you know, when you, when you're actually on the inside and you're seeing it, some of the stuff you thought is right, a lot of it's wrong. Things work differently than you expected it. And, you know, that's almost, it's almost like another layer. It's like going further and beyond, really. Okay. Now, to the important matters at hand, did Booker let you know that he was running for office? He didn't. It was, and I actually didn't know because I had, I had actually called him just to
Starting point is 00:19:57 check in that same weekend. And it was like, I had no idea. He, he actually had thought that I was a reporter because he had gotten a new phone. So you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, sorry, you're starting to cut out a little bit more. I'm cutting out. Okay. Yeah. Am I, am I doing better? Hey, Brennan, are you, we're using discord, right? Yeah, that's what we're doing. So the easiest way to fix that is to go into your voice settings and turn the, either push the talk on or take the input volume and kick it all the way down to zero. Because I think what's happening is his voice is dipping at the end of conversations and it's underneath the threshold. Yeah, it might not be a connection issue as much as it might be just the threat. Okay. So I need to go to, like,
Starting point is 00:20:35 preferences and the voice and fix it live on the air. We're doing it. We're doing it live. This is my favorite part of the podcast. And then you get, you get the input volume needs to go all the way down to zero. You drag it down low enough that it's not going to turn off when your voice starts to go on. Yeah, you want that little bar to shoot up over the little dot every time. Okay. Um, I think he actually just turned his mic off by turning input volume all the way. I'm so old. I'm so old. Okay, so let's try that out and see if that works. Brennan, how old are you? I'm 25. No, you're not. Fuck you, you fucking liar. There's no way you're 25. I told you, Pat. I'm a 25 year old adult. Wait, he's really 25? Dude, he's accomplishing world
Starting point is 00:21:20 dreams. You're 25? Yes. But I was 26 years ago and I was like having like a barely successful YouTube channel and that was my whole life doing more with less time. There we go. I think I did it. Okay. So we should, that problem should be fixed. This changes my whole perspective of the world. I'm upset as you should. You know what, y'all, every time you find out that someone is incredibly successful and they're way over. You know what really bothered me a lot? If it makes you feel any better, every child I've spawned has aged me five, 10 years. Yeah. Well, I got that ginger thing going on, but, but like the one that really got me is someone I was listening to the bomb cast and I think it was Dan Reichert's birthday or whatever. And he's like, I'm turning 31 and I'm
Starting point is 00:22:10 like, you've been working for Game Informer for like eight to 10 years and you're the same age as me. What was I doing when I was back in 19? Oh my God. Yeah. When I was a kid, that's what always pissed me off about little Bow Wow. Getting in like undeservingly early and being a rich rapper at what like 12. Don't let it set in bad. Don't let it set in. Is that the dread setting in? Oh, it creeps up. It's always behind you. It's on your back like cheap tricks. Oh boy. Well, I mean, look, I guess then we do, so what we do when it sets in is we play games and watch anime. Oh, hey, you guys want to talk about those things to distract ourselves. So what have you been distracting yourself with, Brennan? Well, actually, this is like the first time in a long
Starting point is 00:23:08 time I've actually been able to have a week because the reason I'm even on this podcast is because my family is out of town visiting the in-laws. So after work every day, I've been being a child again, which is great. Oh, that's the best. I got to go to the movies. I saw that Split movie, the James McAvery movie. Is that good? It was good. It was better than I expected because I see Shyamalan and then I just get angry. Yeah, but I hear that he's like learning from his mistakes. It still had a big dumb twist at the end. Okay. Okay. It's the big dumb twist, the big dumb twist that I've been hearing about because if it's that big dumb twist, if it's the big dumb twist you're hearing about, it's like a it's like a beyond twist. It's like a
Starting point is 00:23:54 meta twist. Oh, it is? It's that? It's a meta twist. Oh, dude. Like it involves things outside of the movie. Oh, wow. It is what I heard. Oh, wow. You need to go see this movie. What's it called? Split. Split. Because so this is that thing where the first thing I saw was the trailer and the second thing I heard was the ending and the ending was the thing that made me go, I need to go see this right now. Okay, cool, cool. And James McAvery like demolished that movie. Like it was ridiculous because he's, I mean, it's not a spoiler. It's in the commercials that he's like this guy with DID. So he's got. He's associated with identity disorders. Yeah. So he's, he shifts between characters and he does it so well that it gets to the point where without, you know, any obvious
Starting point is 00:24:43 things, there's obvious times where he's wearing different clothes or something. You say this must be such and such, but you learn the different identities, names, and there's a moment where he's just switching between all of them in one scene. And you could see, you could, it's like, oh, I know who that is. That's such and such, that's such and such, and such and such. And it was, it was nuts. It was good. Okay. So what's like one of those like movies that's almost like set up to show off the acting chops of, you know, like switching between roles and so on? Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Okay. And if you had a terrible actor in that role, that movie would be a dumpster fire. Absolutely. Well, that's the thing. You can kind of go in thinking like, okay,
Starting point is 00:25:22 let's see this is either going to be a dumpster fire or this guy's going to kill it because there's no in between for that kind of role, you know. See, the thing is like the last thing I think I remember him from was Wanted and. Oh my God, that is the guy. Wanted and X-Men. Oh yeah, that's true. That's true. You're right. He was totally Xavier. Yes. Yeah. In my head, he's the Wanted guy. Yeah. But yeah, he also is he is Professor Xavier. That's true too. I just, I'm like, God, I'm so butt mad about Wanted. Why? Why are you mad? They curved the bullets, right? That's what you wanted. And you know the word. Sorry, that's what you want. Fuck. And the worst part is I feel now it's getting I'm getting double salty about it because like I feel like
Starting point is 00:26:13 if I went back and read Wanted, it probably wouldn't hold up anymore. Probably probably the weirdest thing about whenever you met and talk about like, oh, I want to move or whatever. It's like you would have a comic out or would have you. Yeah. And I saw that movie and I could see absolutely no common ground between any panel of that comic and any scene of that movie. I actually didn't know that. What's the what's the difference? Oh my God. So basically it's one of those really sort of those really unfortunate things where Wanted was written by Mark Millar who he was he also was responsible for the Ultimates, which, you know, became the Avengers. So, you know, really, really interesting story. And it's just basically like it was supposed to be about super villains
Starting point is 00:27:03 that have taken over the world and like someone joining this fraternity of villains that already rule the world and becoming a super villain from a normal person and how like shitty and awful that is, you know. Yeah, that doesn't sound like the movie I watched. Yeah. And it just it just completely turned into join these assassins, curve bullets and fuck the code and fuck the code. But what a great line that was. God fuck it, you know, and Jolie ass and whatever. And you're just like, okay. And I feel like, you know, the the what they did at the comic in the comic, at least what I really appreciated was just like how nuts it was to see what it was like, not seeing like an anti villain, but like an actual real bad guy. And like, he's like, no, these are my motivations.
Starting point is 00:27:53 I want to do this and following through to on it. And it was just like, it was cool. So you got so you got the feeling with that movie that I'm going to get when they turn the ghost and the shell movie into Robocop. Yes, that is totally what's about to happen. However, I didn't even put that together. What what and like to, you know, I guess, judge it up again. And the thing that really was annoying is how wanted was originally slated to be like, you know, a normal adaptation of the source material. But it was originally optioned back when Ang Lee's Hulk was a thing. And it had and that had failed. And that had scared that kill superhero movies, superhero movies fail. Hold on. Exactly. So it was during those years, like around 2004 or so,
Starting point is 00:28:43 when superhero movies were super dead, it was afraid of them. And so they immediately started going, All right, instead of canning this project, we have to change everything about it so that it's not about superheroes. Yeah. So if that movie if wanted came out, like next year, it would have been right. Yeah, yes, because they would have not been afraid of superheroes anymore. And they would have kept to that part of it. I don't know. Logan is an adaptation of that comic. And that's going to have very little to do with that comic. Well, that's that's the case with all those X-Men movies. Well, actually, honestly, most of the comic book movies are the comic book name only. I have a pretty much. Civil War was nothing like Civil War. Age of Ultron was very
Starting point is 00:29:26 little to do with Age of Ultron. And yeah, but I mean, like the Logan one seems extra nuts, because like, I don't think we're going to have any likelihood of seeing a bunch of Inbred Hulk babies. Of course. Yeah. And and and infinite inbred Hulk babies are owned by Marvel. And an infinity war is not at all going to be the infinity war. Totally not. There's going to be references. But yeah, they're using the names because they had the names have weight. It'll make us talk about it. Exactly. You know, but I definitely inbred Hulk. Inbred Hulk. Yeah. Haven't you seen the chart? It's got that that's that Zen diagram that has all the different things and who. Yeah, but it's just inbred. Inbred Hulk. Hulk babies are in the Marvel circle.
Starting point is 00:30:10 And similarly, I don't think that fucking whatever his name, God, whatever Wolverine is going to be like acting alongside like the giant rooster thick buff man that is beaks great, great, great descendant. Yeah. You know, and I don't think he'll feel comfortable like in world that silly. So you know, it's fine. We'll see what they do. I like X 23 in general. So yeah, and the little girl seems cool. Yeah. As far as little girls and movies go, she I mean, she's not talking. So that helps. And she's horribly murdering a lot of people. Yeah. And they're like showing it, which is neat. I appreciate that. And it also seems like, you know, like they're paying Fox, at least is they're not just shitting everything out
Starting point is 00:31:00 completely like they're having someone go through the shit for nuts a little bit. It's not going to stop all of it because obviously, you know, I whatever the last X-Men movie everyone's really down on. I even bothered. I've said time and time again that forgot the name X-Men doesn't because X-Men is my baby. If I had if I was on an island and can only get one comic book every month, it would be X-Men even now that it's not so good. And I've always said that with Fox and X-Men X-Men doesn't necessarily need to go back to Marvel. It would be nice for the stories that you know, could actually have the continuity they're supposed to have. But where the money is in X-Men movies, in my opinion, has always been in team ups, because it's so hard for them to get
Starting point is 00:31:49 all of the X-Men in one movie. And it's great when they can do the scenes. They always do a great fight scene where, you know, everybody's using their powers. And it's like the danger room and stuff like that. But and I think they're going to realize it soon enough because Deadpool did so well. And I think Logan's going to do very well. Yeah, that's where the money is. And I'm sure Deadpool two will be with cable and stuff like that. So I'd like to see more. I'd like to see more let's throw two or three X-Men together and have them do a movie kind of thing. Follow a single story. Yeah. Yeah. In Age of Apocalypse, you spend so long with, I feel like you spend 25 minutes with Magneto in the woods by himself. And then you spend 15 to 20 minutes like, here's a mystique
Starting point is 00:32:34 being sad about whatever by herself. And just every single time anybody throws down on that, they make very quickly to separate everybody out into little groups. So I think like, Brennan, do you even see the Age of Apocalypse? I did. Because like they only actually have a team effort at any one point. And that's the very end. Yeah. And then the team effort is for nothing. It's just too many people. It's like the, it's the problem that the Batman vs. Superman had. They just have too many people and not enough time to build them. Everybody wants to be the Avengers, but they didn't put in the years. Avengers spent like, what, nine years? Yeah. Really? Some of which were bad? The entirety of phase one, of course, you know. And here's half a shot of Cal
Starting point is 00:33:15 Drogo as Aquaman. Okay, he's Aquaman now. Got it. Great. The rich history of Aquaman. Wait, Batman designed the logo for him. Great. No, Lex Luthor designed the logo for him. Put it on a folder. Yeah, you're right. And then Aquaman saw that and said, I'll just put that on my chest. Yeah. So yeah, same for Flash and everybody. They all are like, oh, wow, that's a pretty good, Lex is a great graphic designer. Anyway, no, that's exactly it, man. So, you know, it's at the very least, though, like it's not all bad because like other Mark Millar projects have come and gone and took off like kick ass was actually another one of his comics. And I think that turned out fine. I didn't see the sequel. So I don't really know how that went. I think the
Starting point is 00:34:01 first one was better. But I don't think the sequel did well. I don't remember it being offensive. But I remember, I remember like the original being pretty faithful, you know, for the most part. A couple things like Nick Cage's role entirely was very different. But outside of that, they kept it close and it was fine. You have to modify roles for Nick Cage. You can't make a role and then say, Nick Cage will be playing this character. You have to make the role sign on Nick Cage and go, okay, how do we use him? How do we harness this power? Let me change the wording. I want to use very specific. It won't be Nick Cage playing a character. It will be Nick Cage pretending to be a character. No, he's entered into the pantheon of Morgan Freeman, Al Pacino, Jack Nicholson,
Starting point is 00:34:52 in which you will describe their performance as their last name apostrophe in a blank. Yeah, like they don't act as characters. They act as themselves. Pacino. And sometimes they fall into a into a place where the original character was actually modeled after them and it's good. Yeah. But like you see them like almost becoming parodies of themselves. Oh, absolutely. I actually really like Matt Stickman. I think God, the Devil's Advocate was probably the first example of where Pacino started going off as like he wasn't being like a quiet talking guy like, you know, like Carly goes away or whatever. It's when he starts exploding and going like, ah, and then being the ridiculous character that he's become at this point. And then from
Starting point is 00:35:45 then on, there's no going back because you've dialed it to 12 and you broke the knob. It's stuck. This is what I am now. At some point in the in the actor factory, they just broke the knob. It's completely smashed as no. Oh, no, we set it to full peshy. Hey, full peshy is great, though. I will I will sit and watch hours of full peshy. Same eight scenes over. Yeah. What explosively violent thing is he going to do this time or even like raging bull where it's just like, no, you're just the brother in the back. I don't fucking like I'm thinking back to like lethal weapon and Pesci in those movies always freaked me out for some reasons. And I think it was because as a kid, even I saw like the bit in Casino where he murders the pen. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:35 And he's exactly the same person in lethal weapon other than he's not a violent psychopath. So you just you still kind of feel like he's about to become a violent psychopath. Yeah. It's almost like all of the movies are just parts of this one Pesci's life. So you can kind of witness him at different stages. You can you can piece it together, not unlike an Iraqi Iraqi's works. You can piece each of Pesci's movies enrolled, like probably starting out with my cousin Vinny or whatever. You know, my cousin Vinny is nice and calm. He's a little bit he's not pretty. Then his brother, his brother, Jake Lamotta gets into the boxing game. Eventually he gets into the you get some little bit of cash goes goes to look Vegas. Yeah. No, no, no. First he hangs out with those cops and
Starting point is 00:37:24 where the fuck is lethal weapon take place Beverly Hills. Oh, Jesus Christ. Because he's still he's pissed. Right. But he's like not a psycho. And then when you when you do the time skip, you come out of it at Goodfellas. Yeah, when he's like you have my funny funny like yeah, yeah, yeah, like shooting spider for no reason. Truly the story of our time. The Pesci verse. Pesci is not. Oh, no, wait. Pesci talked about that. It wasn't the Pesci verse. It was the munch verse. That's what it was. The everything was connected podcast that we had. Yeah. In which Detective Munch connects like every single goddamn series and movie of all time. I'm sure Pesci touches that at some point.
Starting point is 00:38:10 Oh, you completely forgot that whole. No, I remember the podcast, but where there's a connection. No, we definitely and I remember we definitely said Bruce Willis a lot opens the gates. Yeah, to everything because him like like dynamite cops showing up in Namco X Capcom. Well, no, the other the other opens the gates is where Bruce Willis is in Oceans, Oceans 12 as Bruce Bruce Willis who knows Julia Roberts, but it's a fake Julia Roberts. Yeah, because that links the real world to all realistically fake movies. But but to the anime link and the video game link was again dynamite in Namco X Capcom where you just bring in everything you want without going too many extra steps because Dante is right there. Does that mean that Luigi
Starting point is 00:39:00 knows spawn at the. We can't do this again. I brought it up. It's my fault. We can't. But it does confirm that at the very least, Philemon and Morgan Freeman are in the same space as God's. They could talk. Yes. Yeah. So have you used your time? So you want to go check out Split? Oh, yeah. Yes. Yes, my week. Is that a recommendation? I would recommend it, especially if you've seen other Shaman movies, Shaman movies without saying too much. Okay. Okay. Yeah, because the Grand Connective Theory is confirmed in that too. Just like you said. Yeah. Okay. My brain was about to say like we're about to do some. Well, you were looking down the IMDb cast list and like, don't look at that. No, no, no, no, no. But but but what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:40:02 is like my brain is starting to do some of the God Stephen King shit. Yeah, right. So okay. All right. Fair enough. Enough said. Enough said. I'll leave it. I will leave it at that. Okay. Did you see the bye-bye man? The what? Did you see the bye-bye man, Brennan? No. Oh, well, we may have to go see that just to be able to talk about it on the podcast. The bye-bye man. Have you seen Red Letter Media's breakdown of it? No. Dude, that may be the worst movie to ever come out. It's called the bye-bye man. It's called the bye-bye man. I have. It's an English. You probably saw it and thought they were fake posters of a joke horror movie that's not real, but it's super real. Okay. Good. The bye-bye man.
Starting point is 00:40:50 That sounds like a Chinese movie. It's part of the fuck you. It's January. Okay. I'll have to look into that. Did you did you get around to anything else? I got to catch up on some animes that were on my list of things to watch, but weren't pressing matters. So I got to finally, I like it. For example, JoJo needed to be watched. Yes. No matter how much time I had. Yes. So I watched that when that was going on. But I got to watch or catch up on Kono Suba, which is a cool little, it's one of those I'm in the world that is now like a video game kind of things. Oh, one of those. Isakai, I believe they call it or Isakai. Is that its own genre now? I don't know how it's pronounced, but that's what they call it now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:43 Yeah. It's a fun little show. It's kind of jank, which is what I like about it. Anime jank. Yeah. It's anime jank. Like there's weird animation things that it seems like they do on purpose. Okay. So there's like weird like jiggle physics and stuff like that. So I was down on that. And I finally got around, which was much easier to watch Space Patrol Luluko, which is great. And I started watching yesterday, actually, Long Name Rakugo, which is that show about Rakugo that's like winning all the awards and stuff, because it's really good. What's a Rakugo? It's like this, it's like a form of stand-up comedy in Japan. Oh, it's the straight man. It's one guy and he plays a bunch of roles and he's just sitting.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Yeah. No, you're thinking of the Manzan comedy duo. Okay. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking about. Rakugaki is kind of like, yeah, which it's another one. It's, you know, there's always, I don't know why the most eclectic people get to make anime, but like, you know, it's just such a random thing to be fascinated by and they do such a good job and it's making me interested in it. So I guess that's the point of it, right? Okay. I want to ask you to, if ever in the future, you're watching a trap to the video game anime and they start doing things like actually drawing hair, clipping through clothing. Oh man, let me know immediately. That'd be the shit. Contact me on Twitter and let me know. When they're trapped in a real video game, basically. Not a perfect
Starting point is 00:43:25 idealized video game. I would love to see a bottle episode in which the characters get trapped underneath the world for a length of time. No, no, the villain is like a cheater, so you defeat him by making him fall out of world. Oh man. And all the, all the action scenes aren't like really impressive. It's just the guy standing there swinging and it hits and it misses some animations. Yes. Numbers popping up is a thing, but like, I want more, more game jank. Now that that's actually a genre, I feel like that's going to happen eventually. It's just around the corner. There's, because there's too many like, to bring the code up again, you know, like the, the, the defining like traits. Oh, are we going to get it wrong again this time?
Starting point is 00:44:12 We're going to get it wrong again. But like, but like, yeah, the things that, that are shitty about a given medium are the things that make it identifiable. So like looking at these perfect sort of online virtual worlds that look exactly like the real world. I'm like, I'm not sold on that being a video game. Did you, did you see Jeff's video on pro like problems with sort of lines of interface? Oh, absolutely. That game has the worst interface I've ever seen. Using a potion is the stupidest thing. It takes so long. I can't believe how dumb that is. It's no, that's, it's amazing. Well, it's an infinitely vertical scrolling list. It's a single column. Maybe, maybe it's a little bit better because it's a VR game. And you can use your hands.
Starting point is 00:44:56 But like not having estus button because VR is incredibly stupid. There's no, there's no HUD. There's like, there's nothing you can see. You can't see your health. So, and there was another fake Dark Souls looking screenshot that popped up in something recently where like all the items are on a single line on the right corner and it just looked incredibly like cumbersome to have to deal with. And you're like, I, I get it. You just, you just need to see a screen and we go, oh yeah, that's Dark Souls. But yeah, who the fuck would play that with that HUD? You know, it was terrible. Anyway, it's breaking my immersion. I want, I want to know when, when anime hits that level, when they start paying attention to that type of shit. Well,
Starting point is 00:45:37 first you would need people who actually play video games to be writing these stories. That's one thing. That's probably the biggest problem. And Jeff brings up in the sword art thing. It's like, it's very clear that the author of sword art like doesn't understand or play video games at all. What if I told you that Mira, the only reason why he's playing that one. Shut up, just shut up. I don't want to hear this. Shut up and listen. The only reason why he was playing that much. Wow was because it's research for what he's going to make when he's finished Berserk. Honestly, Berserk has kind of been looking more like, wow, over the past couple of months. The art style has significantly changed to be like kinder. What if he ends Berserk and then
Starting point is 00:46:12 it's all been researched for his new isekai? Okay, well, virtual strapped into printing the time to start worrying is when guts gets an upgrade to his Berserk armor, which is the giant shoulder pads that just extend three feet off the side of his body, or you can just star ocean it and just zoom out of the story we've been following. It's a show that star ocean like the biggest waste potential in games ever. Yeah. Oh, it's up there. I don't know. I don't know about ever. I mean, this is now they had that one good one. Look, we now live in a world with what is its story of Black Tiger or whatever that was called. Oh, fuck. Oh, fuck. The fuck is that game? Should we all pee that? I think maybe, maybe. I'll see if I can pull it up, dude. Like,
Starting point is 00:46:57 Brennan, if you haven't seen it, so many had a trailer go up for this game called I think it's story of Black Tiger or life of Black Tiger. And it is on like, they deleted it within hours of it going live. And it was one of those like for what reason? The game looks like it's like beyond shovelware shit. It's like an iOS game that got ported to PS4, but they changed almost nothing about it. Life of Black Tiger. And then so you have to actually walk up to your TV and swipe left and stuff like that. Like it said a lot that I went and looked at the YouTube video of the trailer that was up when it was up and like nearly every comment was what the fuck is this? Who even approved that to be released? Like people are mad at Sony because like why is this bad game on your trailer
Starting point is 00:47:54 list? And why? And the fact that it not only wasn't uploaded, but like it got the big blue swipe and the PlayStation like someone sat here. Someone said this is fine. Yeah, multiple people in that chain just give it a little push. Just let it happen anyway. Yeah, God, wow. So we live in a world with that. Yeah, that's great. Anything's possible. Let's then wait, unless you have more with you week. Yeah, I mean, I just, you know, like I'm on with you guys since I had time off, I ran a tabletop stream with my friends at the third wheel. What were you playing? Which you should check out that channel if you get a chance. They have some good stuff. We were playing upwind, which is a cool little game that's kind of set in this like skies of Arcadia world. Okay. Okay. And you actually
Starting point is 00:48:45 don't quite a common power. Yes. Nice. And you ride around on sky boats and stuff like that. And it's actually the coolest thing I found about it was that you don't roll dice. You play with the deck of cards. What? Yeah, like a regular deck of cards. And basically you have like something like six for regular skills in your hand at any time. And then like four for your magic skills. It's kind of got the avatar elements going in it too. Okay, so it's not just deck of cards are replacing a dice roll in mechanical? Well, they do, but it's weird because there's this cool thing where you're playing and okay, say I've got, I don't know, a king and like a four and a three. And it's something that like I could live without doing. If I'm rolling to do it,
Starting point is 00:49:39 then I'm going to save that king because I'm going to save that king for when I need to do something that I want to succeed at. So you're replacing your dice rolls with a predetermined set of rolls that you can cash in. Yeah, because once you play them, they're gone. Yeah. So you get an ace and you get a one. So you get an ace and you get a two and you realize I have a critical hit and I have a critical failure here. What do I want to use these on? Exactly. So if you, you know, if it's a skill that if you have like a three, a four and I don't know, a five, those are not super good cards. And you've got a, you're doing something that you can play three cards with. I'm just going to play those instead of, you know, my face cards because I'm going to save that. And on top of that,
Starting point is 00:50:28 if you get a Joker, that's like, God crit, like do whatever you want. A good Joker would be the critical hit on the absurd thing that your DM told you to fuck off and not do. Exactly. And it's cool the way the game is built is if jokers aren't played, if you don't luck out and get a Joker early on in the game, by the end of the game, jokers are flying. So there was a, there was a moment in the stream where it's like the final fight, we're fighting these pirates, it's going good or whatever. And somebody in my party uses their Joker card. So it, and you said Joker and everything, you know, everything is like, okay, that's sweet. We got that. And then the GM actually drew a Joker card and he played it. And then it was like, counter Joker. And then I played by Joker card. So it was
Starting point is 00:51:23 like Joker, Joker, Joker. And it was amazing. It was great. That's a really good modification to a dice roll. That's cool. It's really interesting. You have a super and you can just pop it when you want. You could easily just retrofit that into any existing DND or classic template. You really could. Honestly. Yeah. All you would have to do was determine what numbers equal what. And you hold them and then you have to, you have a limited amount of time and you have to use them. Yeah, totally. Because that allows for role playing in that you get to decide what your critical failure is. You get to decide, I open the lock and go critical failure. And if your DM or GM is smart, you get to see what they've designed for you as a fail state. And you're really, you're
Starting point is 00:52:01 really at a, oh, and that's the other thing is when you make a play, it's what it's called is making a play. You basically agree to the terms. So it can be like, okay, say I'm trying to get in and I'm trying to pay this guy off. So I'm using my rich ability or whatever. We can say, okay, if I win, then the guy gets in. If I win by a lot, then the guy gives me a tour. But if the GM wins, then he's going to kick me out. And if I get in, he's going to know. All right. And then you say, you agree to the terms. And then if you say yes, then you play. So it was a very cool game. I enjoyed it a lot. Probably if I ever get a chance to play it again. Yeah, no, clever stuff like that. Like, well, here's the thing. Now, Brendan, are you familiar with Kingdom Death Monster?
Starting point is 00:52:48 No, I'm not. Okay. So that is a great timing, Pat. Yeah, yeah. He just walks out. No, Kingdom Death Monster is it's the game that inspired the mechanics behind the Dark Souls board game that recently went. Okay, okay. Yeah, I do. I have heard of it a little bit then. And it's very cool. And what they what they sort of do in that is you have a series of campaigns where it's you and your friends on a board in a basically a boss arena, and you're doing a series of boss fights. And the way that the the monster that you're fighting works is you roll dice to, you know, make your actions to complete your actions and such. But the the monster has an AI deck of moves. And every time an action comes up, it's like, okay, we'll play the next thing.
Starting point is 00:53:42 And you and like they do whatever that type of move is. But when you land damage on it, those moves count as hit points as well. So you take away cards from that AI deck, and the and the monster becomes more predictable the lower its life gets. Huh. At the same time, there's a random there's a chance where you can take away all of the worst cards and be left with its best attack as the last one, where every turn it's going to keep doing that one amazing attack and you're fucked. Yeah, I love I love cool mechanics like that in tabletop games, because I've been playing them for, you know, a little while now. And it's always good. It's always really cool to spice stuff up with stuff like that. Absolutely. And that's something I've been
Starting point is 00:54:26 getting into the Kickstarter just when you get to get that kingdom death monster shit. I mean, the first couple the first like boxes should be arriving later this year. Okay, you know, but there's I'm already like to look checking it out from the tabletops every time you talk about this, it goes. We have this podcast set up with cameras. Yeah, we should probably do a tabletop thing at some point. Yes, but that's far away. That's what I'm saying. Yes, we should. Maybe I've discussed this with you and how it's a show that I'm trying to work on. Yeah, but it's but like that's why that's why I asked when when that thing is coming out because that's far away. Yeah. But I'm you know, I'm working on just want to have the 14 and a half hour live stream of fucking risk. I'm
Starting point is 00:55:15 working on shit in the background. Okay, so the wheels are in motion. Exactly. Other than that, I just I played some overwatch because I needed to get all the skins. Hey. And it was actually the first time I got to play overwatch in a little while. So I got Bay is now good and Bay is Symmetra. So that was cool. Messing around with her and she's she's well actually it's it's kind of not cool because now when I get played the game, everybody like craps on me because she's too good. Yeah, yeah, I jumped back in as well and played played a couple games just to just to get some boxes and to get the the swing of what's new and what's different. And yeah, it was really weird getting used to, well, first of all, not when I see a shield out of the corner of my eye and not
Starting point is 00:56:08 automatically assuming Reinhardt's right there. Yeah, no, you know, it was one thing. And then the second thing is like trying to figure out where shield generators are being placed. Yeah, that's it's huge to make. Yeah, how wide is their radius? It's massive. And like most of the play of the games that I've gotten since I started playing again was me having a shield generator up, them rushing a point like in the like last couple of seconds and me charging in with a shield in front of me and having enough health to charge up my gun that I'm just melting everybody. So to get a rate to get an idea of how large the range on the shield generator is, you know, the training map, I do, you can walk up to the wall where you have the two friendly shooting
Starting point is 00:56:53 the two enemies, got it, put it against there, yeah, and back up all the way to right by the spawn point, like inside the spot, not in not inside, but like right by that area, that first place where you're walking out. It's like, are you talking about the the two shooters that are right in front of the spawn or no? Oh my God, are you talking about ones on the other way down the hallway to the right? You can back up all the way to near the door of your spawn points. That's a third of almost every map in the entire game. That's the entire battle zone. It's not a third, but it's no, but I'm thinking like it's the whole point. You put down, say in the Russian, the Russian map, you put it in that little corner, that little box that faces the point from behind. You know what
Starting point is 00:57:35 I'm talking about? Yeah, Volskaya. Yeah, Volskaya. There's the there's a little room facing the first point that opens up towards the point. You put it in there. It's going to extend into the whole point on one side and the whole it choke point covers the whole point and play and then some every time. That's crazy going nuts. Yeah. How much shield is it? 50? 75, wasn't it? 75, I think, yeah. Yeah, 75. That turns like Genji into Tracer into like regular characters. It's really good. And so you now have to start thinking about where that's getting placed. Because you start shooting you start shooting at people and they just don't drop. Yeah. And like the cost of like discovering that even. Well, that makes it so that in an equally matched one on one, they will win. Yes.
Starting point is 00:58:16 So they have an advantage that you just don't unless you've got your own, you know, so that's that's exactly what it is. She's actually got applications and it's really good. Also, like as Reinhardt, I'm like running forward. I'm like, OK, drop my shield, let it heal. I'm running behind her shield and then hers walks away and then I stop and I put mine. Oh, yeah, I love I love giving Reinhardt a break. Like when you see it start to crack and then you just shoot a shield and it's like, I got you, buddy. You're a two man, agus, reflector, unblockable corner combo. Yeah. You know, let me let me let me get mine back up while this one's out. Yeah, it's really, really solid now. Symmetra's got a lot going on.
Starting point is 00:58:55 And the other thing too is that everyone told me that like the tank meta was incredibly strong now in this season because it's actually I remember seeing on something that was talking about it that it's losing gas and is going to get nerfed, I believe. Yeah, exactly. So but still, it looks like, you know, we brought it up last week on the podcast, but they've Blizzard has apologized profusely with the were sorry may skins. Yes. Sorry. Yeah. Sorry. We'll make some really good skin. Well, actually, no, they over apologize because those are the best skins that they've made. They're really elaborate. Most of like how many it's like five legendaries or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm using the journey to the West Reinhardt right now. And
Starting point is 00:59:40 like they're really good. The weapon design as well as it's so much better than like not because it wasn't just me. It was like Zarya skin was completely nothing. You know, she got nearly all of her skins were completely nothing. And but this one was just like identical to her other white one, except she had sleeves and a little bit of snow on her hair. Like the laziest overnight like that's legendary. You know, think so. Yeah, legendary. So that's that's cool. And I like the new I like the new Tracer one as well. Like it's got some Tracer one is good. She looks like a ninja. Yeah, it's got some cool little details on it. So yeah, get it. You get it. And that's how they get you back in. You come in. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:00:21 it's they're going to have me forever. They got like $20 every time they make new skins. I'll give them $20 to get the ones you want there. And I guess lastly I played a little bit of I got back on Pokemon again, because the Pokébank opened up. So I got to move all my boys over from the old games. Okay, so going as far back as the reboot. How far does it go back? It's the main thing for the Pokébank is X and Y starts the Pokébank. Yeah. But there's a game transfer that you can you can import things into the Pokébank from I believe black and white. And now that they have the virtual console red, blue, yellow, you can use the Pokébank with those guys. It's all in there, man. So yeah, okay, all the all the warriors are back. My army is
Starting point is 01:01:18 back and I'm getting ready to fight like 4chan or something. So look out for that. And of course, lastly, but certainly not least Lee, because it's my job stable you're running by. I watched. Yeah, my stable. I watched all the WWE special events this weekend, which were which were good. It was good to see. So you can still you can watch them yourselves on the WWE Network. If you live in America, I guess I was about to ask for 999. Excellent. Excellent. And with that, let me combo shell by going into our sponsor combo. So this week, we're sponsored by Soilet. Oh, I think so. So here's the thing is, you know, you can't see them. But if we if if Brennan were here in the room, those rippling abs would probably blind you. Oh, boy. It's it's it's
Starting point is 01:02:12 something that takes hard work and dedication. I hear and so I'm just working on my one big one big app. Let's start with one. Let's start with one. Well developing this one, one very good large ab now. Now, a lot a part of that though, it requires eating healthy. And that is hard. And we are lazy. It's not actually hard. We're just bad. I also said we're lazy. I know, but I feel like it's more that I know. But if it's like if it's like 0.5% hard and like 95.5%, that's two things down the middle, right down the middle, right? Right down the middle. So here's what's up. Everyone eats, but you could be eating better than when we try to. So I know that for a fact. How often are you going to be walking around without a shirt? Right? You like
Starting point is 01:03:00 when the summer is my job, it's my job. So I have to. Yes. But it would be nice to be able to go, guns out, suns out, right? Yeah, the confidence that that takes a lot. But at the very least, we can start working on our single ab by by eating healthier. And what you could do is Soil and drink is a like it simplifies the work created by scientists in the lab to get you nutrients and you're getting more than 20% of your daily nutrients in this drink. It is something that is shipped to you. And it makes it simple so that you can just kind of like grab it and go. They've got different flavors, ingredients like, you know, cacao, fruity nectar, subtly sweet original so you can eat right and it'll taste great. And it'll keep it simple
Starting point is 01:03:48 if you're like us and you just need to get your act to fucking gather. So like, let me ask you, Willie, my my thing is like cakes and shit. And oh, and Matt's thing is clearly Oreos. It's 100% Oreos, right? Yeah, what's your fucking like? I have a problem. All right, fuck today. Fuck tomorrow. So here's into my mouth. It goes now. My problem used to be Cadbury cream eggs. Yeah, but I've worked past it. Yeah, I've worked past it because I want to keep my toes. So what did you replace it with my now it's like every couple months. There's the apple crumble cheesecake from Rockaberry's is ridiculous. And I can I can give I can you know, I can let that rock every couple. But I still feel terrible like shit doing it. And I need healthier things.
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Starting point is 01:05:15 That's Soylent.com promo code super. Thank you guys. Thanks. I went very appreciate it. Ah, man, I just like, you know, when you can talk about like falling off the wagon. Oh, yeah, crawling back on the wagon. It's like, what do you call it when the wagon's wheels have broken down? And it's just the horse is dead. I'm going to sit on this wagon and kind of half lean off to pretend that it's still a wagon. Okay, no way. Hold on. Hold on. Anywhere getting being on the wagon is good, right? Yeah. Yeah. So if the wagon's broken down, but you're still technically standing on it. Yeah, that's like you pretending to yourself that you're not off the wagon. Basically, if you disconnected the wagon instead of falling off yourself, basically, you just cut the cut the horses off
Starting point is 01:06:09 of the wagon. You're going to cut the horse's brake line. Yeah, the tendons just get under there and slit, you know, like I had, I think I think I had like Chinese food twice last year, right? And I'm like, yeah, I was with you both of those times. Yeah, like really, really barely ever touched it. And then last night I was like, I'm going to get some and then I'll order enough to like have for when I go home today and then tomorrow. And I just ate all of it last night. That's so like the two days worth. So that's the problem with being sweet. Like I have the ongoing battle with my girlfriend where she's like, Pat, you can keep sweets in the house, just don't eat all of them. And I go, no, you can't do that. If they're in the house at all,
Starting point is 01:07:02 I will just eat all of them. I'm banned from going to the grocery store because I'll just my wife is like, like, she'll like, there's been times literally I've been on the way home and I drive past the grocery store on the way back from work. And she says, Hey, Brennan, can you pick up something for the kids? And then she'll like, she'll put like a dot dot dot and she'll be like, wait, never mind, I'll just go get it. Because you're white knuckling it. Yeah, I'll go in there. And then I'll get, oh yeah, I got the diapers, honey. Don't worry. And I also got like Reese's puffs and white knuckling the shopping cart. The little orange plastic is just sticking out the corner of your mouth. Save time if I just don't unwrap it.
Starting point is 01:07:48 Yeah. Yeah. Like I have like, like for me, like there's definitely those moments of like, I'll walk by like just a barbecue place or something like that. Or I'm just like, I and the urges kicking it. And what I and what I have done, it's happened a couple times where it's like, you don't turn to even go in or look at it, but you just stop like, like facing the direction you're going and it's on your left or right. And you just you're not looking at it, but you just stop and stand there. My fight the battle. My problem is always because we're I go to gas stations a lot because we travel up and down Florida for shows. So every time I go into a gas station to get water or something, you have to walk past the, you know, the candy in the front.
Starting point is 01:08:30 Every time I see it, the thought in my head always goes, this will not be the candy bar that makes you fat. That's a bad one. That's really bad. So when I've been to, you know, six gas stations in the weekend and I've had, you know, like five car mellows or whatever. Yeah. Then I just feel like a garbage bag. Traveling, traveling is the real like traveling gives you the mental excuse honestly to not follow your fucking regimen. You know, you know, this reminds me of this reminds me of a similar mentality of just like fighting that urge back when I worked at the grocery store before best friends got big, but it was just starting right at just starting
Starting point is 01:09:13 and is maybe a path and I would go to the grocery store and I would sit upstairs in that food court like half an hour before I had to go to work and I would sit in the food court eating breakfast, waiting to go to work and be like, I don't think anyone saw me. I think I might be able to call in sick and just leave and just go back home and that similar internalized like, oh, I could just no one would know it's like eating candy in form of laziness. Yeah. Ah, I God fuck it. I need to go punch some punching bags, man. I'm it's this conversation not helping you fall in a part, dude. The wagon thing he said the horse is dead. The wagons wheels are broken and I'm standing in it anyway and you're standing
Starting point is 01:09:56 around a bunch. You're standing around a bunch of people who are all clearly off the wagon and dancing around like what do you I don't know, but like bread and I don't even know what you call it when it's like I'm doing I'm doing the my my fitness pal tracking and like there's like been a couple days where the number is over, but you're you're tracking it anyway. And you're like, yep, I'm still tracking it. I'm on my way back. No, honestly, I had that I had that moment this this week because because I was able to leave after eight o'clock, I would I would go to dinner with some, you know, coworkers or whatever. And I it the starvening began Thursday because Wednesday I went to the restaurant and I had a cake and then I was eating the cake. And I was
Starting point is 01:10:43 like, it needs to stop. And I've been I've been doing not as good as I've always done for like six months now. The problem with that is once you take that first bite of the cake, whatever size it may be, and you're at a restaurant, the restaurant adds a pressure sent a pressure that is not there at home. And it goes, Oh, I need to stop eating this. But I bought it. Yeah, you did buy it. What am I gonna fucking do? Am I gonna take the difficulty setting of being six foot eight? So they're like, Oh, you're that's not going to be enough for you, huh? Yeah, dude, like I like is I just wolf down all that Chinese food. And you know what I did before I left to come to the podcast today? What's that? I took the fucking empty tin of General towel with the death sauce and I
Starting point is 01:11:38 put it in the fridge, because I'm like, I can maybe use that sauce on something else. It's the death sauce, but that's pushing it. Like you're extending the damage exactly. This is poison. This is toxic damage. You traded you traded a raw hit that bypasses your defenses for a long term damage over time. It's not it's not poison anymore. It's toxic. It's straight up like you're not going to heal this with a regular moss. Okay, uh, we need to we need to focus up super best health cast. Talking about her failing health. Um, no, we'll just this motherfucker over here, giant man with the huge muscles talking about his failing health young man 25 fuck this bastard. We, uh, I guess I'll take the week. I guess I'll take the week. I didn't like as far as playing
Starting point is 01:12:32 you play for honor. No, I didn't get it. God damn it. And by the time it seemed like you asked me like three hours before the fucking beta, well, that's the problem is, and by the time I got in touch with somebody who might be able to, it was like 10 minutes before they responded. So yeah, I saw googly garrots amazing highlight. I put that up on Twitter as I was on the way to this podcast. Holy fuck. Okay, well, moment. Let's go back to for honor after you're done with your week, but I played upon. Yeah, I need to talk about that. No, no, that looks like you can get the February 14th is when that game comes out. Of course it is slot that in for that week's fist to cuffs right now. So, uh, well, possibly the next week, we'll have, we'll have to figure out the logistics.
Starting point is 01:13:15 It's really easy. You bring in a second console and you hook it up to this television. Okay, and we, the, the person that's in here records with these microphones and the other two get over there. Let's let's get discussed logistics later. We just did. I finished it. I won anyway. You won. I won. You won. I won. You have a point. I made all of my sentences come out of my mouth, and then I showed up on time and you won. No, I didn't. I showed up late and I won. So I think, all I really had time for was a little bit of the FF 15 festival. And is that the weird, I haven't played that. Is that the weirdest thing in the world? The Chocobo Mughal Mughal festival? Yeah. No, it's not that weird. It's all right. I think, um, how far are you in the story?
Starting point is 01:14:03 Uh, I'm, I'm, you know, I forget, but like, well, did you do the, did you do the stuff in that city already? No, no, no. So that's why it's the weirdest thing in the world. But it's no, it's not because they've actually like ice, like it's very isolated in a way where it's not, you don't even go to it from the main, from the in game. Yeah, I know. It's on the main menu. Like you don't even navigate to it on the map. Is that supposed to be prior to the war or whatever? It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Nothing in it is like contextualized at all within a time frame. The only person you're hanging out with is Carbuncle, who is your training or your dream buddy, tutorial buddy from before the game came out. You know, it might even, it might even be,
Starting point is 01:14:45 but like it, all it is is just like, yeah, there's no context for when it's taking place or what, but it's cool. Um, you know, little mini games, pretty fireworks, all that stuff. It's a fun kind of like, um, I guess in-game event. It's different from how like, you know, Splatfest would be like, everything looks different and then everything is going towards, like all the, all the normal gameplay is going towards a choice. It is kind of weird that it's not in like, Splatfest makes sense or like in an MMO, it makes sense to have an event like that, but it's like a single-player game. So it's, I mean, it's cool. It's super weird. It's kind of weird. I've never, yeah, and I'm not used to that. I don't think I've seen anything like it. That's what I was going to say is like
Starting point is 01:15:22 overwatch events as well. Like everything seems to revolve around. You play the normal game and there's differences that are for the season or for the celebration, but this is just like, here's a complete self-contained piece of content that lets you put in, uh, get items. Well, that's why I'm so weirded out about it because a single-player game is like, it has to take place sometime. Maybe. It has to. But they may, they, they carefully hide all of that so that it's not going to break it for anybody who doesn't like, isn't as in a different place. I'm just going to tell myself that it takes place before the game starts. You can do whatever you want, but the point is that they obviously were careful enough so that it's like no one shows up or nothing is
Starting point is 01:15:59 happening that is going to make you go like, why would that be there? Or why would this be the, you know, weird? Like it's like, when you, it's like, you know, when you see, um, like an anime movie, right? Like sometimes they go, this takes place between these two episodes. Yeah, sure. I buy that. But the reason why I have a problem with it, it's, it's time, whatever the fuck you want to call it, right? Is that in the FF15 story, you go to that location and then a bunch of shit immediately happens within like one day and then you immediately leave. It's like, it's like persona cue. Oh, fucking persona cue. Oh my God. Yeah, there you go. But anyway, as far as the shit actually going on goes, um, it's fine. Like you are presented with way too many quests and many
Starting point is 01:16:44 games for you to actually sit and complete. Unless you're Billy. But it's like, in general, you kind of like, are they all like, Hey, go here and look at the moogle and do a mini game. Go here, take some, like they introduced the new take your own photos mechanic by having like at least three. Did that get rolled back into the base game? I believe it did. That's awesome. I believe it's introduced with this. And then like, yeah, you have your own, this whole like, we can now take your own pictures. You cannot take your own pictures. Here's how it works. And you do it through three or four quests. Then there's like combat mini game. There's a like sit on a turret and shoot mini game. So you know, using existing mechanics from the what was it was in battle to
Starting point is 01:17:24 like do different kind of like activities. And then there's the fishing stuff. And so every reward in the game and it's generally a great celebration carnival fun thing, except for the fucking fishing thing. Basically, what's happening is everything you do, every game you play is rewards you with points or coins that you use to buy things at a trade in shop. So they're all points for justice carnival. What kind of stuff do you get? Well, that's the thing is you can choose to get like a the main thing you want to get is the ending of it, which is a seat for the fireworks show. But you could also buy rare food items. Okay, you can buy rare like items in general. Mega Phoenix, if you spend enough money and what about that fucking match? Combat items or the pillies
Starting point is 01:18:15 gone. That's about you can buy. I didn't see that on the list, but you can buy like all your oars. You can buy a lure type things like a little all did the rare types of normal items, basically. And so that's pretty much how you choose to spend your currency, except there's these specific a specific type of rod and reel that you can get from fishing up the right fish. Right. So you go in and you try to fish for this rare like fish in the areas to get the right thing. Of course. And it's total RNG. Oh, great. Awesome. That's so you get so I pull up the hugest fish that has like it takes like maybe seven minutes of fighting it to pull it in, right? And you get it and it's the right fish. It's giant. It's huge,
Starting point is 01:19:05 but you didn't roll the reward. So you didn't get the one. So each shit. So I catch that fish like five times, maybe hours of fishing later. Yeah, I get the third prize as the best possible one. But the second and first, which is the reel and the lure. Yeah, the reel and the not the lure, the reel and the rod. You just never fucking get a crack at. And the game's telling you to eat its balls. Time completely wasted. Yeah. Eventually after like just giving the fuck up and looking as to where was I even in the right places? Yes, I was. I was going and then I go back and I was like doing it in the right way. Yes, I was way. Everything was correct. And then it's like, well, you the reward rod and reel you get are not even that great. Nope.
Starting point is 01:19:47 And there are better ones you pick up the fucking lure you get from pre-order bonus, which you can now, oh, by the way, they put up all the pre-order bonuses for like 50 cents. You just know I did. That's actually all right. Money. But it's just like hours wasted on this exclusive thing. That's not even better than what you're currently using. Fucking completely like just it almost ruined the whole thing in the future. You might want to look up if those things are good before you try and get them. You know, I guess maybe it's my fault for assuming that it was like an exclusive because you made a like four or five very small mistakes that compounded to fuck you. And the number one mistake you made is to assume that the reward
Starting point is 01:20:32 would be reasonable to obtain and have intrinsic value, right? Considering how difficult. Now once you blew an hour and didn't get it, that was the time to look up whether or not it was worth it. Perhaps. Perhaps. But I said, you know what? I'm not getting the rod. Of course it should be worth it. Let me go try and get the reel. And I didn't, and again, you're not quite, I didn't quite realize until like the third massive 85 pound fish that, oh, it's actually just RNG on the big and see, I can eat. I can tell what they were thinking. They thought, well, since it's so hard to get, let's make it not that good so that it's not a big deal if you can't get it, which now. Yeah, that's not good. It's fucking you're like, but now I'm trying to collect it.
Starting point is 01:21:23 It's supposed to be. Yeah, I got it. Well, then it can be nobody complains that they couldn't get it. It's this weird mentality that I see in some Japanese games. I see a lot of 14 where that everybody views something as they go, oh, people are going to be really happy that this person got this big reward. It's not the best thing. It's not the coolest thing, but it's special for them, right? And they don't understand that the nature of people playing games is not the one in a million person goes, oh, yeah, I got it. It's everyone who doesn't have it goes, fuck you. I need it. So that's perfect because there was a great video that popped up where a guy was talking about balancing and nerfing and buffing in fighting games. He used
Starting point is 01:22:05 some footage of me getting destroyed. I saw that. I didn't watch the whole video. But the basic premise of that was that taking away something from someone feels twice as bad as them getting something. Yes. Absolutely. So what is the amount of money it would take for you to flip a coin and if it's heads, you gain money, but if it's tails, you lose 10 bucks. And the number that they came to was 20 bucks. I have to win at least. I need to need to get double there. I remember what I'm risking when I was in the school. There was one of the studies that I found out, which was, I forget what it's called, but it's human risk or loss aversion. Yeah, exactly. So high. Yeah, that people would rather gain nothing in order to see other people lose things. Yeah, rather than
Starting point is 01:22:51 risk them. Like people would rather receive five dollars and the other person five dollars, then they receive 10 and the other person receives 20. Even though it's a clear net win, that appearance of unfairness or the appearance of somebody getting it better than you makes people go crazy and give themselves bad deals. So yeah, so it was a core A gaming that they did a video on it and they talked about how, you know, like, so when you buff a character, it only feels half as good as when you nerf a character to somebody, which is a problem because the ideally those two should be in equal. And if you do a lot of balancing, then you end up in a situation where everyone is miserable forever, which I think everybody saw with World of Warcraft. If you
Starting point is 01:23:29 ever played that at any point, every patch made everyone furious. Yeah. And, you know, and like this, then going back to like topics where like Liam would like, like kind of just go really get really upset about like things that you can't get as opposed to trivial things you can. If you trivialize the thing you can get. Yeah, I'm the same way. Yeah, it's just like, no, but the loss, I don't want to not have the thing, you know, I know, I know people who grind it out for like days for some absurd stupid looking mount in 14. That's exactly the same as another one. It just glows. Yeah, because it was that fucking yokai watch thing and it was going to go away. Yeah, and that's it. They don't even ride on the fucking thing. It's just their feeling of it's going to
Starting point is 01:24:11 be gone. Yeah, that's not those people, Pat. I mean, Overwatch skins run on that principle. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, they know that big time. Yeah, man, you know, like, well, you're not going to get it. And you know what? Every time you go to that fucking, your skin collection, you're going to see the skin you don't have. And you're going to see the bar on it that says nope. Yeah. And it could like my I'm not crazy enough to think I can have everybody skins. But you know, since I play Symmetra, I said, okay, let me get everything Symmetra has. Yes. And I have everything that Symmetra has, except for one like taunt from the summer games. That's the only thing I don't have. In two years, you'll be able to get it again. Maybe. Oh, they would be crazy not to open those
Starting point is 01:25:04 holiday ones up back up again. Yeah, but the only question is, is it going to take a year? There's not another Olympics. Yes, or four years till the Olympics. No, they'll do one for the Winter Olympics. And characters will get winter themed shit. But ribbon dancing isn't a winter sport. Yeah, well, it is now in the Overwatch land. Unless they just have a. Oh, I have that ribbon dancing one. Unless they have like a limited time, like get whatever you missed event. I don't even play Overwatch anymore. Yeah. I'm an idiot. Shadow Jiggle as well. I'm also bad at video games, which is, well, that's tough for Overwatch because people, everybody got good, it feels. They need a playlist for shitty people. Shitty people who don't drop. Is that a
Starting point is 01:25:48 population that exists? The correlation isn't in your favor. No, especially not now that, well, I mean, it was news, but now that they've got 25 million people playing the damn thing, it's a bit nuts. That's pretty okay. But I don't know. So anyway, I just, I did that. I'm playing more Let It Die and seeing the ins and outs and there's some cool shit that you can get. A lot of the best looking equipment comes from getting it to plus five and then getting it getting the plus six version of it changes its appearance. So that's where some of the stuff that I've been waiting for is locked behind. And I got a Knight's Helmet on a military uniform and I'm running around like a Lord Jaggy type motherfucker and it's pretty, it's not bad. It's not bad. But the only
Starting point is 01:26:41 thing I do is I watched Ex Machina. Ex Machina is great. Yeah, that's a good movie. That's that damn dare movie about them sex robots, right? That's the one that they compared to the West Worlds. And I can, you can definitely see like, yeah, tons of parallels handling the same source, not saying handling the same type of material with a couple different philosophies. And it's very interesting because Ex Machina is a good film. It's a, it's about AI and it has a lot of the questions that we discussed with the West World coming up here as well, the identical questions actually. But it has, and in the same way that Arrival is a good film, it has the same problems because it has to be a movie. It has to be a movie. So the incredibly genius, brilliant people that
Starting point is 01:27:33 do super smart things have to be movie dumb, have to be movie dumb. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And well, that's horrible. Yeah. So you hear you look at a, you know, a scenario where you're like, everything about this is they're, they even have things that are like, that's a contrivance, but it works well for this film. Like the character who is the equivalent of like Ford, the guy who's the genius, right? That's making all of this is a very laid back kind of like, isn't he more of a Steve Jobs type? Yeah, even like less. It's like if Steve Jobs wasn't clean cut at all, like he was like, he had like a nice house, but like he was kind of dirty and nasty. Like it's like, take this, take this, take the Steve Jobs like work ethic,
Starting point is 01:28:18 but put it in a dude who was like, I don't know. It's like, I don't know. Like more like an Elon Musk slash fucking dude that plays Green Goblin in Spider-Man. What's his name? Genius guy that was in the movie with. But what's his name? You know, he's smart and he's an actor as well. He's also in... Willem Dafoe? Not Willem Dafoe, his son. Oh, you said Green Goblin. Oh, yeah. You mean James Franco. James Franco, thank you. James Franco doing everything. So James Franco, where you're like, you're really smart, but you're also like... But you also like smoke weed, yeah. Yeah, exactly. It's one of those types of characters. What if Seth Rogen was Steve Jobs, right? So every time they get into a conversation or if things start to get like
Starting point is 01:29:05 really complex, he's like, ah, fuck all that, man. Whatever. Layman's terms. Just tell me what you feel, you know? And that helps for the purposes of letting people who don't understand. And it's also nice to have a guy who's not blatantly trying to be Steve Jobs because that's like, oh, we need smart businessman that's not wearing a suit. So let's give him a turtleneck. Yeah. So it definitely um, actually like that sold it really well. But again, they have to be movie dumb and they have to make movie dumb mistakes. I feel like I'm getting less tolerant with that as I get older. Like, well, because imagine again, the scenario like, I'm gonna leave it here because it's still a really good movie. I'd recommend you watch it. You'd enjoy it anyway. But you just have to imagine
Starting point is 01:29:52 a world where the problems, the troubles occur and we have not created the equivalent of seesaw motor functions. Okay, great. That's, that's smart. It's really smart. I actually watched, I watched X Machina a while ago, but I had watched it the same time I watched Chappy. Ah, yeah. So I had like a bunch of weird like existentialist questions in my head for like a week. Were you pulling at your skin to me? What if I'm a robot? I was like, I was like, if I, if I died, right, but my memories were uploaded into a USB drive and they put me in a new body. Is that good enough for my family? Probably like, do they need me because that, that robot will be just me, right? Yeah, the answer to that question is probably. Yeah. See, it sucks for the person
Starting point is 01:30:47 that it happens to, but it's actually completely fine for everybody else. It's better for everybody else. I've had this discussion too with, with friends where it's just like, if you could teleport or you have, oh my God, I was just going to talk about this. And the only thing was that the thing that comes out the other end is not your consciousness, but it's an identical consciousness. So yours stops. Yeah. So is my light out? Your light, your light's out. My favorite light is out. So stop collecting knowledge. You are now gone. Except for the entity that is Brennan continues. Are you okay with that? This is my favorite version of this. No, I like my light. It's the Star Trek transporter problem. The reason why it's so interesting to me is because
Starting point is 01:31:30 there are people in Star Trek that won't use transporters because they can't handle this mentality. They think they think, okay, there are two things that happen in Star Trek that bring this to the forefront. One is Pulaski in the first couple seasons will not use a transporter because she's a doctor and she gets it. And she understand, oh, the buffer or whatever, fuck you. I'm probably dying every time I get in there and just being cloned by the replicator when I come out. It means nothing. It means nothing if it's not you, right? Like if you went through the teleporter and came out on the other side, everybody would still have you guys. Yeah. But you're gone. There's a second episode where Riker has a transporter accident and the
Starting point is 01:32:10 buffer gets overwritten and he gets replicated on the bridge, but he never makes it off the planet as well. And there are two Rikers and those characters continue onwards forever through the story. And like no one knows how to deal with that because what does that mean? Which is the real one? The one on the planet that got stuck there. That's the real one. Do they eventually like conclude that what actually happens with every teleportation is that you die? No, because Star Trek says that there's a buffer in which your pattern is kept cohesive and thus it's being reconstituted. So basically the idea is that you are being turned into bits and the bits are maintained through a buffer. What if that's just what they use? That's not true. They just use
Starting point is 01:32:56 that to convince you. Then that is physically moved via the energy transmission and then that's reconstituted. But considering transporter accidents can either melt people together or duplicate them. No, you die when you use a Star Trek transporter. And there's no way of actually proving whether or not you die or not because the thing that comes out will always be like, no, it worked. The Riker that gets stuck on the planet for seven years, which is ostensibly the original, eventually goes on to have this massive existential crisis become a fucking galactic terrorist and ends up spending the rest of his life in jail because he can't handle the idea that the transporter copy of him is the canon Riker to the rest of the world.
Starting point is 01:33:40 Right. It's fucking bullshit. It's awful. I don't like it. Don't get in the machine, man. Yeah, no, I don't get in the flies machine either. The fucking, what is that called again, the grumble grumble thing. And the reason why I like I've had so many versions of this conversation is because the person I was talking to was totally cool with it. Yeah. And they were like, no, like, totally, it's me. My function would be served. I don't need to witness that. I'm fine. No, the prestige. But what about the selfish thing that's in you? If you want, if you want to really like force yourself to have a hard look at this discussion, go check out the prestige. Yeah. Well, if I'm yeah, oh, God, they force you to look at this problem
Starting point is 01:34:24 and go, no, no, motherfucker, you are just being great fucking, you need like, yeah, it is normal to be selfish enough to say I don't want to stop if I'm dying. If I'm dying. And like they had a like there was something that allowed me to like do that into a body that wasn't going to die. I would do that in secret. Yeah, I wouldn't tell I wouldn't tell anybody but only if I was dying. Also, I should mention it's a minor spoiler in terms of the themes, but this argument is nearly the entire plot of soma. So woolly, you should really play that because you would really dig the themes and the character that you're dealing with you're playing as is an idiot who doesn't get it. Okay. And there are characters explaining and re explaining
Starting point is 01:35:20 and re explaining it to him. Yeah. And he never gets it. And it's fucking weird. Yeah. I mean, you know, like the for all intents and purposes, the universe continues without you and not man. When I die over the same events will occur. You're all figments of my personal simulation for my brain. Oh, you're my dream. Yeah, but X Machina is good. Otherwise, the faith created Titus and he was able to go out and meet his dad who was also a dream who was then real. Dude, that's not even but I will say that like the full like let's ball. It's so dumb not because the not because I originally thought that my the version of that that I heard was that this is the dumbest complicated thing. It's ridiculous, right? That's pretty bad. But actually upon
Starting point is 01:36:16 getting the full thing from people after LPing it, it's really amazing. It's super well written, but it's not in the game. Yeah. And the only way to find out is by going and digging on your that's an automatic fail and that for your story. It sucks. That's an automatic thumbs down for your story. If you don't know, it's really good though. Let me tell you about this thing that didn't make it into the movie or the book or the game or the play. It's the most interesting part of Final Fantasy 10's world. It's it's goddamn attractive. The whole war and what happens with sin and what happens is anarchy and all that fucking shit. They gloss over it like four sentences in game and it's like no, that's the coolest part. The character who is the the pinnacle
Starting point is 01:36:56 of the early game boss fight means nothing in game, but she's actually the most important character in the story. It's it's it's insane. And like you almost wish that they would have thrown in a fucking codex of wiki or even drop a Xeno gears, sit down and explain the story to you on just two moments. So fucking they go a little too hard on that anyway. Yeah, what was your week like, man? All right, I watched I watched one movie that doesn't have a lot to talk about. Okay. It was the first time I saw it. A girlfriend made me watch it because she was aghast that I had never seen it and it was this little film called Monty Python and the Holy Grail. Never heard of it. Yeah. So are you fucking kidding me? This is the reaction I've had from literally every single
Starting point is 01:37:40 person I've spoken to about this. Have you seen any of them? And it's like anger. It's not it's not like disbelief. It's like annoyance. No, you know what, Pat? I don't blame you for seeing movies that didn't come out in your lifetime. I know the people that would be upset. I'm not but I'm definitely like how did these three specific friends of yours that I know never show you to you or bring it up or I guess everyone just assumed I would have understood it. So here's the real worms makes more sense. Here's the real dragons crown makes more sense. Are you telling me that every time someone made a reference, you just faked it? You faked your entire life. The Holy Hand Grenade thing. I was like, haha, that's funny. That's a funny joke on its own. I don't need to
Starting point is 01:38:25 know what it's from. Oh, it's a killer rabbit that's killing people. That's goofy. But and and and all every time a reference is made, you're not faking it. Those things are funny on their own, Willie. Okay. The knights who say me funny on their own. No, that's the one that was never funny on its own to the point where when I got to that scene in the movie, I hated it by default. But everything else on that flick is great. All right. Is that the only money python you see? That's the only money python I've seen period still to date. We have to watch it in school. What? What? That seems crazy. Yeah, it was like, I don't I don't remember why I just remember that's where I watched it. Kids got to learn about 70s British sketch comedy. Yeah, the two teachers
Starting point is 01:39:10 not paying attention. It might have been it. But I also feel like it might have been like school years almost over. Let's watch something. Because you know, like if some of those movies have like the old British titties in them, and I don't think that's appropriate for whatever grade you were in. I was in like second grade, British. Wow. That was terrible. Anyway, well, there you go. That's it's pretty good. It held up. I'll tell you that. Of course it does. Yeah. Well, I don't know. Of course it does. Fucking old movie for people in England. Eric Idol is hilarious. I love that. I don't know who that is. He's a really funny British guy. So he's in a lot of Monty Python. Okay. The only one I know is John Cleese. Okay. Yep.
Starting point is 01:39:52 As you as that's the only one because he's he was I feel like he was around more not in Monty Python. Is there a reason why you're saying Monty? Yeah. Okay. Because people are getting mad right now. Yeah, but you said it first before it ever happened. Yeah. So that means that you had a plan. No, I just I screwed it up the first time. And then you say now I'm like, okay, well, they're already mad. Okay, so I'm just going to double down commit and say that Monty Python is a much better movie than melee. Gotcha. I don't know why it makes me laugh. I have this thing in my heart. They're Russell. That just just makes me so happy when I make fun of melee. And then I played a bunch of For Honor over the weekend, which is
Starting point is 01:40:34 well, you're going to you're going to you're going to get sucked right the fuck into that. I look super cool. I know this is for you. Yeah, there's an entire set of classes that are built around highly specific, wildly varying defensive maneuvers. No, of course, like Edmas over there doing the Lord's work and I saw in that again to bring it up again. There are different. Googly Gareth has not a video called not for honor, but for you and it's him just on his death pixel going through a whole team and a God every move is just different and interesting. There's other there's a moment where I don't even know what's happening, but he backs off and goes into like a okay. Okay, so what that is like I can tell you what that is and a way
Starting point is 01:41:24 that you understand it immediately understand why it's good. Yeah. So the counter characters don't have sustained blocks. You have to hold the block before the attack comes out. That makes them also really good for strikes because their their weapon isn't in a position that you know where they're going to attack before they attack right with that guy. If you do a back dash and then do a strike, you will be ready to run in and dash and do a huge strike, but the guard point on it will not be visible until about 12 frames before it hits the guy. So he'll run in, run in, run in, and then the flash of what direction to block will only appear right before that sword comes out. So it's this amazing back dash move to use where you're melee bang bang bang into a baked in mix
Starting point is 01:42:07 up you dash back and then you go in for a 30 70 mix up which is way in your favor. Yeah. So are they are they neutral? Then it's a 30 70 mix up. Are they not neutral? Then you win and you can tag in lights after that. Okay, we 30 70 not in your favor. No, in your favor. So 70 30. Yeah, 70 30 sorry in your favor because there's the three ways to block and you've picked one and it's invisible. Okay, there are characters with startup dodges that are invincible on block. There are enemies that have heavy attacks that auto guard on on startup. So so so okay. Okay, you know the classes how you thought they were just weapon range types. No, they are fighting game characters. They are wildly different. So what you need to do is break down because you know Ubisoft,
Starting point is 01:42:57 they explained some of this but the actual blocking system and where you block and what is a hit. Okay, what is that? Alright, so it's really simple. You lock on with L2 and that puts you in a guarding mode which is 99% of the game's combat is you is you in guarding mode which is basically you locked on. Yeah, right. So there's two there are three types of blocks that I saw in the thing. There is the the regular guys in which you have up left and right and that's that's your directions for everybody right. Okay, so Sam the Sam the the night character. I forget what it's called the Raider. No, that's the whatever. I'm the Raider. I'm the Viking of the big axe right. If I hit up, I will hold my axe above my head and I'll pretty much block everything that comes high,
Starting point is 01:43:39 but not anything left or right. Yeah, if I put it to the right, etc. If I put it to the left, etc. Where you're blocking is also when you swing where your attack is going to go. So if you see a guy blocking high and then he starts to swing without changing his guard, you know he's going to attack high. So his so the default attacks are a 33% chance of hitting. There is also so those guys will maintain their block. The second set of guys have super blocks in which heavy attacks won't even stagger them at all. They'll just bat it away with a shield like it's nothing. And there's a third set of characters in which the block does not maintain it only lasts for a second or two. So you have to put it up on every attack. However,
Starting point is 01:44:21 those characters, if they dodge straight into strikes will do instant reposts, which can be followed up with bleed damage. They can both follow it up with throws. They can be followed up whatever. So your block is really strong. If you can't get through a guy's block, you'll have a guard break, a guard break and either lead into a strike, a combo, or with a lot of characters, a shield bash, shoulder bash, or straight up fucking throw, which you can just toss dudes off the edge. You can toss them into walls. You can toss them off the people. But the basic sentence structure is high left right and wherever you with the direction that you have blocked in when you successfully block your counter attack is going
Starting point is 01:44:58 to come from that direction. Yes, unless you switch your direction, which you can visibly see the which you can always see it clear unless you're playing the one of the super fast guys that have the shitty blocks. They get the bonus of switching between the directions faster because their blocks are garbage, but the back and forth exchange you can actually telegraph. It's it's up left right and and you will see like you will see guys like blocking everything because they know and if that's happening, you have to break their guard. You have to do that dash back so they they with you can dodge around them. The hitboxes are good enough that when you dodge left and right, you're physically dodging swings. How many mistakes can you make? You can make
Starting point is 01:45:38 four mistakes depending. Light attacks are quite light, hard attacks are crazy strong, and everybody's up high. So the other thing is that different directions have different strengths. A bunch of characters, they're up heavy attack does like twice as much damage as the other two, but takes longer to come out as a result. You can. It sounds like she'll really sure. Yeah, it's very similar. She'll read the third person and it's like smoother. It's not weird to hit boxy PC stuff. The other thing is that when you block, if you hit strong attack, the instant that it hits your guard, you will shove them off and you will gain like block advantage like a guard impact. There's so much there. There's so much going on and like let's take the the the night
Starting point is 01:46:25 character again, the simplest one, his up light attack. Well, you first talked about the Viking. Yeah, the Viking. Okay, fuck it. Let's take the Viking. The Vikings throw is not like a throw where he just grabs you and tosses you. The Vikings throw. He will charge forward, pick you up and run about 10 feet. I saw that in the trailer. If you hit the edge, those people are dead. They go. If you hit a wall, you'll do a knee bash, which will stun them. Stunning people removes all the UI elements revolving around blocking. So all of a sudden, you have to be able to fucking see it. Oh wait. So that means when a guy's in front of you and you're locked on to each other and he takes a swing, you get you see UI indicators where it's
Starting point is 01:47:06 going to. Oh, you see it. You see it in in gray when it's blocking. You see it in red when they're attacking. You see it in a flashing red when they're right about to hit you and that's the parry time. Okay, so you're not actually visibly looking where they're most of the time. If you're stunned, which is the the Raiders like special ability can stun you at any time, then you lose that and it becomes very hard to dodge or are high left and right color coded. No, they're all they're all the same positional. Yeah. Okay, so like the night character is a really good example because his lights all have special properties. The up light is fast and it will literally it will auto parry anything in the first like 10 frames. So if you see a guy going high, don't block it. Just power
Starting point is 01:47:48 through it with your light attack and you got it. The other thing, however, that if you're not going up his side attacks, if you hit the first one, the second one will combo 100% of the time. So you're typically going from side to side and then as soon as they try and get around your side guard with a high, you blow through it and smash them. So when they're on that last pixel and you land the killing blow, does it always go into one of those? You have to land that killing blow with strong in order to get that. Okay, a light just chops them down. A light just they'll fall down and that allows them to be revived. But if you hit them with a heavy, you can do the execution and that makes that cuts their head off or some shit. Oh, they're in a down state.
Starting point is 01:48:27 Yeah. Well, kind of they last for like 30, 40 seconds and they can be revived. And they'll come back at full health, which seems really crazy. But if you cut their fucking head off or bash their shit in, then they will not do that. When they're down, of course, you walk over to them. Yeah, you hit the circle and you pick them up. Now, that sounds very, that sounds very complex. It's so awesome. You play as a cute anime girl. Yes. Shut up. There is the Nabush. There is a, well, we pull up a fucking screenshot. There's a character class called the Nabushi, which is probably the coolest looking design in the entire game. And it is, it is an Asian lady with the full robes, the cool little pointed hat,
Starting point is 01:49:11 the white mask with the little slits in and a naginata. I'm sold. Naginata. Yeah. Naginata. She's so cool. And her, her deal is that she has all sorts of time blocks and dodges and shit, but also all of her pokes do bleed. So she's, she's supposed to sit out back and just annoy the fuck out of you constantly. She can also cancel any of her moves into a kick, which knocks you back. There, there, those, dude, it, there is so much there. There is so much there. There's a character whose strong attacks are okay, but they're unstoppable. They cannot be, they can't be powered through. So it's a character built entirely around trading hits in your favor. So that, so the, the cast is, there's, there's four groups and no, there are three groups,
Starting point is 01:49:58 three groups and four, four classes each five classes, five, okay. Two of those classes per group, it's up here, like they're going to show up as part of the season pass or DLC. But so far it's, it's, uh, the, yeah. So here, so, so you're looking at the samurai. I'm showing, yeah. So, um, I, you know, the, that's, that's an interesting and, and the, they, they are not all equals to each other, right? So like there's the, the standard guy for every team, like they, they're all wildly different. The Raider, his biggest thing is throws the, the knight, his big thing is like good side normals and the, uh, can say there, you and the Chapman, you're looking at Willie, the guy with the, the samurai with the mustache. He's got longer range, but his deal
Starting point is 01:50:42 is that everything he does turns into his combos and that's pretty good. But the up, uh, finisher on his combo with a strong is always completely unblockable or unparryable in every way. The, the, the, it's called, uh, I think it's, you go, one of his moves is home splitter, but yeah, no, and he yells out and his sword catches on fire and you would think that would be hard. That would be easy to get used to, which is why within the first couple frames of that, if you hit left and right, he will immediately juke and then go into a left or right power attack, which are blockable, but you see him start up, yell, and his sword catches on fire. So you start to roll away or dodge to the left and right, and then he goes to the right and go,
Starting point is 01:51:24 okay. So this is a nice. The guy with the Kanavo looks cool too. This is a Shugoki. Yeah. Yeah. Shugoki was not playable in this demo. Sorry, in this beta and it bummed me out because that's the character I want to play. That's the heaviest character in the game. But so, but this is clearly going to just be a whole that well, well, you can just, yeah. So like there's a character, Crusader, Defender, whatever. He's a huge knight with a flail and a shield and he has bad everything except for the shield is great. The shield will block everything super well. He doesn't have a good throw. He doesn't have good R1 normals,
Starting point is 01:51:59 but what he does have is the unique ability to charge up his strong attack to level two. Okay. And it hits for like on the lighter guys, it hits for like 60% of their life. It's disgusting. And also when he starts a strong, say you're aiming up with your strong attack. If they start to attack you with an up attack, you can, he will auto block on startup anything coming your way and smash them with a counter hit with your charged, with your charged strong attack. And you can nearly, you can kill people in two hits. Does successfully blocking do chip damage? No, but there is stamina.
Starting point is 01:52:36 Okay. And it trains them. Yeah. And the, there is a, there is a, it's even called revenge mechanic in the game, which you see in Googly Garrus video. Yeah. What that is, and there's, there's a, there's a healing mechanic. Okay. Well, I'll get to that after this. So revenge is simple. All of your attacks, all attacks on you become auto parried unless you're, if you're in a neutral state, you have infinite stamina, which is, there's a stamina system too. If somebody's stamina runs out and you throw them, they'll fall down and you can just hit them as much as you want.
Starting point is 01:53:06 Okay. So yeah, all attacks become auto parable. You do more damage. You have infinite stamina. It's, it's basically an ultra combo, right? You get it by successfully doing defensive moves. So it is the anti gank system. So anyone you're not locked onto, you can block by just holding block in their general direction. So if two guys rush at you and you're able to hold them off for like five, maybe 10 seconds, yeah, you will become a badass and you will be able to turn it around on them. Okay. And your teams are always groups of four v four. Well, so here's the thing. There's a one v one mode. There's a two v two mode and there's a four v four mode. The four v four mode is the one with the stages and the points and that's the default that yeah, the other two are
Starting point is 01:53:52 just deathmatch and the other two don't take any of the upgrade system into account. It's purely visual on those. The one v one is where I spent most of my time. Willie, it is a goddamn fighting game. It is just a fighting game. It is fucking. It's a good fighting game. It's a really, really good one. They brought in the FGC on it. It's so fucking good. I'm surprised by that. Okay, like every time I fought a guy, I was like, I don't know how to fucking beat this is. Oh, no, wait, you do this or you you fake him out. And there's a there's an archetype. The the the Assassin's Creed looking a peacekeeper for the Knights. It's a sword and dagger lady. Yep. Her entire game plan revolves around quick attacks that force you to guard. And then when you guard,
Starting point is 01:54:34 she's able to stab you three times in your gut, causing 30 to 40% bleed damage. And then you're supposed to just run away and let the other guy just bleed out and make and let them make mistakes because that character can also counter hit. So not to just sit here and talk mechanics for an hour, but do it. So what what is the healing mechanic? The healing mechanic is well in normally it's just basically in one of you one to the one of you one it doesn't matter because you win right to be two. It's did you kill one of the guys you gain some of your health and stamina back that that mechanics also in there as well to a degree in four v four. But there are also a few characters that will gain like straight up. I'm healing myself or
Starting point is 01:55:20 I heal myself as I hit enemies, right? Okay, because in the four v four mode, you gain MOBA esque abilities that are mapped to your D pad. They're shooting an arrow or firing a bomb or rallying your troops or draining stamina. Some of those are healing abilities. But also I saw the moment we're like in that replay that we were talking about the opposite. The enemy stands still and starts charging and then like, yeah. So if you if you that I don't know that might be a mechanic specific to that character. Okay. But also the way that it works is that if you capture a point and stand in that point, you will heal it a full within 1015 seconds. So it's run there are three points get aggressive run to a point kill who's there get it keep it
Starting point is 01:56:03 gain your life back, either stay there or go and get another point. And so the the defender always has that life advantage. Yes. Yeah. But as soon as somebody enters into that space, it becomes contestant and they lose the ability to regen life. Okay. But if you managed to like chase somebody out of that point and stay there, they're still at half health. They say save one of those skirmishes over a point in which it doesn't go anywhere. It's 50 50. If they leave and it was your point, you'll gain your health back and they won't last thing how how consequential is cutting down the grunts somewhat the grunts only fight over one spot. It's in the middle of the map and in order to gain that point, you need to kill the other grunts. It's very easy, but but
Starting point is 01:56:44 someone is usually there trying to stop you from doing that. Most of the battle is it's like Titanfall. Yeah, you just the vast majority of the battle is PVP is PVP one on one, one on two, two on two occasional PvE just because they're in your way. The the four v four mode is a little messy right now. I hope they make some balance changes to it to make it a little because guys are running around and four man gang squads. Yeah, and but which leaves other areas open. Yeah, but the four v four combat in the middle of the middle of the stage particularly is a fucking mess. It's really bad. It's the game shines on one v one or two v two. So hopefully they can figure out like more incentives to split up in those modes. Maybe make the point generation
Starting point is 01:57:24 higher for other points, but it's balanced around for. No, it's balanced around one. So it's it's it's very, very clearly balanced around one v one. You get out number and then no because you can hold them off for a second and get your revenge mode at which point you can much stronger without being locked on. Yeah, and then if you if you have revenge mode and then a buddy comes and helps and it's two v two, but one of them has revenge mode, that's a win usually. Okay, but no, the game is very it feels very explicitly balanced around one v one and all of the modes are let's hope a bunch of one v ones happen on this map. Then all these radical games coming out for like weekend betas, you know, where you're like you have a you have a day or two to get in try
Starting point is 01:58:09 this out. Hey, when that happens, I stayed up till seven thirty a.m. playing that game. Like it is it is fucking stellar. Neo and this were the two that just came in blue by, you know, unfortunately. And I feel like whatever control scheme this game has is going to like fuck me up on other things as well. Because in the same way that Neo having face button attacks that are you know, whereas from form from honor for honor actually has something close to a soul system except right analog stick is your blocks. It's just a whole other thing your brain's going to have to get used to. Yeah. All right. All right. And for honor has a thing going on where they have more buttons than they need. So some buttons are like not used. So triangle is emote
Starting point is 01:58:58 right hit it. Tap it for one emo hold it for the other circle to my knowledge only interacts with traps and revives people. Okay. And that's it. And how'd you do? I did all right. I did pretty well in one v one. I did pretty awful and everything else is I have a lot of trouble focusing on more than one guy at a time. Does it seem like the controls for the PC version are going to be like people using a controller? Either or mouse and keyboard is apparently harder to get used to because it's clearly designed for controller. Yeah. But considering attacking and defending are both just picking a direction. It shouldn't be that big of a problem. You don't have to actually like fine tune it or do any sort. I didn't play it on PC. Okay. Because I don't want to play with
Starting point is 01:59:44 you play. I'm afraid if you think about that thing. No, I was just talking to googly. I was talking to people in my raid group. I'm like, okay, where are you guys getting it because on PC I can crush that game technically. But you play like when I tried to play far cry blood dragon on my PC with you play you play would hard lock my PC requiring me to pull the court. Right. Not the game. That's the overlay in the background that I can't turn off. Yeah. And I mean in like origin was annoying and terrible origins annoying and terrible, but it doesn't fuck your PC. Eventually you just you ignore it. But yeah. Okay. So yeah, think about it. Played really well on on PS4. I'll see. I'll see where about that open beta is coming in
Starting point is 02:00:30 in a February 9th to 12th. Nice. So hopefully they'll probably have all the characters unlocked for that or all the available ones. I'm going to see where the people go. And I will go where the people go because I want to fight the people. Yeah, I'm trying to figure out like, Hey, friends that I'm likely to play this with. What are you going to get it on? And it's so yeah, let's let's let's cover some news a bit because that's Worf's favorite game. Oh, is that basically like the what they're what they're playing? Is it like, like, you know, what's it called in Star Wars? The little fucking creature game? Oh, I don't know what the name of it is. Yeah. And then they get that you see the updated version in first within. No, I just mean
Starting point is 02:01:13 the game's called for honor. So the game has honor. It doesn't have no honor. If Matt was here, he would help me the news. You know what is new? I know I almost still really likes his fountain. So this week, we in fact, hot off the presses right now today, we got an announcement from Square Enix, where they basically went, Hey, fuck all that Deus Ex shit. Yeah, we're going to be working with Marvel. Okay. Yeah. And they have an Avengers project. Hopefully these all don't get canceled. I don't know what it is. So it's it's it's specifically Crystal D working with with Marvel. And yeah, I guess if there's going to be telltale games coming, then Square Enix is going to handle the adventure games, right? That or the actor or the more action oriented
Starting point is 02:02:07 games that is there any like real there's a tablet detail on like what these are going to actually be. No, no, no, no, no, absolutely because it's a it's a good announcement. I'm excited to see what it is going to make because they make good action adventure games. But like yeah, I watched the trailer and I was like, okay, what is it? Yeah, I'm expecting just third person action character, you know, I'd be good with that. Yeah, I'm expecting just third person because like Crystal D, you know, they have the Tomb Raider like they I'm just doing doing that with the with the new brand. But what was going hand in hand with this with this announcement was basically them kind of saying that yeah, that whole Deus Ex universe thing is actually going to
Starting point is 02:02:54 sort of sit back for a bit. It's almost like people are mad that you clearly cut the game in half and fucked the story up at the end. It seems like there was too much content planned for mankind divided. So you know, the announcement of the whole universe thing was to say, hey, after this, there's going to be more linked games and such. But it didn't sell. You don't count your chickens before the horse. It didn't sell. Yeah, exactly a chicken horse, super chicken horse. I was hoping when I heard that there was going to be an announcement that it was going to be like Marvel and Kingdom Hearts or something like that. I really thought that's what it was going to be. That was almost positive. I thought it was going to be Lucasfilm and Marvel. We're going to
Starting point is 02:03:34 appear in Kingdom Hearts worlds or whatever. Yeah, but then Disney. Oh, no, wait. Yeah, dude. Disney, Disney, all of it. It's all Disney. Yeah. Kingdom Hearts should have Star Wars and Marvel. That's just this is just two departments that haven't spoken to each other just talking to each other. I feel like that would be a massive missed opportunity if they did not actually have a Marvel and still have to in Kingdom Hearts and give me a lightsaber keyblade and all of that. They printed the comics, you know, and they already have lightsaber keyblades. I don't know if you remember, Brennan, but some of the fucking nobody guys have straight up lightsabers. Yeah. Fuck. Man, just do it. Yeah. Ask Luke about the darkness one way or another.
Starting point is 02:04:21 But the dark side is just like a big heartless. Yeah. Dark side is the name of a heartless, right? I think. Yes. Yes, it is. It's the first one. Yeah. The one with the dreadlocks. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Look, so last week, that's the dark side from the force. Last yeah. It's all connected. I hit a threshold. Yeah, I couldn't take it anymore. What's that? I fucking I sat down and I went, why the fuck are these games named the way they are? You did it. I need to know because I could have I explained it to you like twice on this podcast and it did not enter into your mind for more than one second. I don't. I feel like you didn't. I very much did. And I remember the look you were giving me to so which is like, shut up, Pat. Stop telling me. Okay. So, so, so what was
Starting point is 02:05:06 the explanation for like 352 over to 358 over two days? 358 over two days is that it's a fucking or 358 days over two. Excuse me. It's it's the length of time that these two characters spend together if I remember correctly, but no, that one. No, it's not. No. So I want I just I'm like, fucking play that one. I don't care anymore. I need to know why all of these games have such incredibly ridiculous names used to know it. The reason why that game is called that is because it's because Japan because the character that you're playing as or like rather than one of the characters. Yeah, the girl or no, the guy actually spent a year as a member of organization 13 organization 13 minus a week, which you already saw in the previous game.
Starting point is 02:05:54 That's right. So this is a year, 365 days minus a week, but there's two playable characters. So you're experiencing those days as two people. And that's why I just said. No, I said that it's like that's the length of time that these two characters spent together. Yeah, it's that I did. That's not what the guy said it was. So that's what we just said the same thing is it like it. It's I thought it was just the time frame of the game is you're you're spending because that character's fucking spent at the end of the characters. Okay, well, that character lasts for 358 days anyway, right? So, um, see how confusing it is, will he? And then even when we're talking the same thing. Yeah. And then like and then he and then dream
Starting point is 02:06:38 drop distance. Yeah. About how they just wanted it to say three day. They wanted they wanted to say 3D, but also there's the drop system and they want it and then every like then there's every world is pulled apart in the distance thing. Yeah. And dreams are what about birth by sleep. That's the best one. So he wanted something that sounded like BBS. Yeah, because every game has to sound like written to relax us. Relatively technology oriented, but also. Oh, God, I forgot. He explained that one too. And there's a reason why there's a character that gets born by sleeping. That's the that one's probably the most literal one. And he wanted and he wanted to have a thing, a title where the word by was used instead of of yeah, because in a lot of in most titles,
Starting point is 02:07:29 they don't use by now. Here's the biggest the biggest big one. Are you ready? Are you ready for Kingdom Hearts 2.8 final chapter prologue? Why is it called that? Well, it's because it takes place. But why is it 2.8? Because it's not fully when part three is going to happen. It's a little bit before it's a little bit more than half. It's a little bit more than Kingdom Hearts 2.5 and a little less than three. And it's the prologue of the final chapter, which is three. Yeah. Yeah. I need I need to wait like maybe 20 years from now when they just re-release it all as one game. Oh, that. Oh, yeah. You know what? That's the new one. Wait 20 years from now. There was even an explanation for Kingdom Hearts X, which was I think it was like a mobile
Starting point is 02:08:15 only thing that was like because there's an X key. What about recode? Uh, recode and is as a remake of code coded. Yeah, coded. It was that was was already there. And then because I'm so cost and it's called coded because everything is a virtual representation of the real thing. So I that game. They're all I've gone on maybe 10 to 20 rants about Kingdom Hearts being on every platform ever and what a confusing fucking shit mess it is to follow it. Yes. And people correctly inform me like a week or two ago that with the release of final chapter prologue, all you have to do is get 1.5, 2.5 and this one and play them in order and they're all there. They compiled all of them, right? Including the the handhelds. Yeah,
Starting point is 02:09:01 including all the weird shit. They've all had remakes or ports or cutscene compilations put out right on on these three things. Oh no. Nicely done. But so that's when I realized like that's not that didn't make it better. Like I thought this whole time that it was because they were together and then they gave you a list of what was necessary, then it would be okay. Yeah. And then it turns out they're all necessary, even though 99% of them are not. But every spin off piece of shit has some minor element, which is actually the most important thing in the world. And that's that the canon events as explained or whatever from looking online, the canon events that occur in each of these like little entries, like you actually need each piece of that to fully follow.
Starting point is 02:09:53 So here's a good here's a good example of the dumb way that they've told this story. Kingdom Hearts 1 is a normal game for human beings and it has a story that starts and ends. Then Chain of Memories comes out and Chain of Memories is a side story that factors into the the upcoming plot. You wanted that to sound like calm. Yeah. Dot com. That's right. So Chain of Memories comes out and there are plot elements that tie into the upcoming game. However, at the end of Chain of Memories, the main character, Sora, gets his memory wiped and so do Donald and Goofy. However, the other characters do not. Then in fucking Kingdom Hearts 2, you play the first two, three hours of a game of a character that the main character and you, if you didn't play that game,
Starting point is 02:10:37 don't know who they are. And that character is the most important person in the story. But they made that Sora not know who it is. So that if you didn't play the fucking GBA game, you'd go, oh, I don't know who it is too. But Sora, by the end of the game, doesn't find out who that character is. Yeah, best guy ever actually just like put out like a three hour lecture about. Yeah, I saw that. Did you see that? I started watching it because I do want to know because I want to play three. There's a guy who does like a fucking three hour university style lecture on like, okay, here's the story. Okay. I know you're going to come at me and go, no, he does find out who Roxas is. He finds out that Roxas is the nobody that he left behind
Starting point is 02:11:24 in Kingdom Hearts 1. No, shut up. That's stupid. I don't care. Is the correct answer. Who cares? Well, at the end, they have a really awesome lightsaber fight where you're throwing castles at each other. So it's actually really awesome. But when do they end up in the parking lot? When do they end up in the parking lot? Where he's on top of the snow with the snow mountain. There's kind of part like that. And then he slides off in front of the school. All right, maybe in Kingdom Hearts 3 in between Jack Sparrow World. 3.0. Okay, you can't redo. They need they need to make the plot of Kingdom Hearts 3 as simple as possible, like as like as self contained and as simple as possible. Did you know that the old guy
Starting point is 02:12:06 in Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep is actually that same guy from the future who traveled back in the past to absorb the body that he's already inhabiting? Yes. I don't I don't even know what old guy you're talking about. Yeah, this is the most Japanese thing I've ever heard of, seen of, or played. So Marvel is owned by Disney. Yeah, Spiderman is is owned by Marvel and Spiderman showed up in Tony Hawk. So does that mean that Rodney Mullen could show up in Kingdom Hearts? Yes. Is there a chance that that would be is there a chance is there a chance that Bam Margarine Hawk World Margera and no it'd be the American Wasteland American Wasteland. That'd be great. Couldn't we could we not get Bam Margarra?
Starting point is 02:12:48 Bam Margarra. But can we not get fucking Chad Muska grinding around? Does this mean we can get Tom Green standing next to Goofy and Donald? I sincerely hope so. And maybe that's what the new project is because there's a new Tony Hawk in the works. And specifically, there's a document. First of all, there's a Tony Hawk Pro Skater documentary that Tony Hawk announced. The name is fucking great. The name of the documentary is called Pretending I'm a Superman. That's great. That's so solid. That's great. So solid. Has there not been a new young hot shot skater that can start making the video games now? Like why is it still the skeleton of Tony Hawk?
Starting point is 02:13:36 Because skateboarding was really popular and then it became not as popular as MMA or whatever. But it's so popular enough to make video games out of. No, not really. I think he's preparing his son, who's also a skater for a Joffrey Baratheon style takeover to eventually be the main skater boy. See you later, boy. Now, the new Tony Hawk documentary that documentary is in the works. But at the same time, there are more plans for Tony Hawk games, but not from Activision. Good. He says I'm potentially working on something, but it's too early to talk about. And it's in the right hands. What do you say? I think I say this every time we come up on this kind of topic and I will say it every time and it's like just give me like a classic style RPG
Starting point is 02:14:26 with Tony Hawk and a party. Okay. Okay. Of Chad Muller. Fucking all those guys. Right. Chad Mullins. The Barclay equivalent. Is that bad? Ben Margeron. Ask. Answer me. Who is that for? It's for me. And who else? Shut up. I don't care. You think I care? And that's the end of your sentence and your thought. There will be people in the comments of this podcast video going, I would also enjoy that video game. Yeah. A number of which probably wouldn't even look twice at a normal Tony Hawk, but you like do can you convince like the skateboarding crowd to play this? Because if you can, if you can do that pitch and make it work, then you get the money. I have the pitch for you. Sell it. Just call it skate three and lie. Four. Skate four. Call it skate four and lie.
Starting point is 02:15:22 Okay. Just say it's skate four. That's it. And secretly. Yeah. I don't know if you know this, but like people are really intense about wanting to skate. Yeah. Yeah. And part of the thread where this news popped up had people talking about how like this could like the two of those games could relaunch the age of skating and video games. That's not going to happen. Well, I actually wanted you to pitch the RPG. I don't have anything for you. Well, then why'd you do it? You know what it would just be? It would just be Barclay shopping, jam, guidance, but basketball. It would be the skateboarding. Yeah, I sorry. I didn't hear you when you said that. Yeah. No, it wouldn't be for the skating audience because Barclay wasn't for the basketball audience. I don't think. Well,
Starting point is 02:16:07 actually, no, there was, there was a weird, you kind of had to be a weird knowledgeable person of like a very specific nineties era basketball of space jam. But everybody knows about the nineties era. Everybody who lived it experienced it. Similar to how everybody kind of knows about that specific era of skateboarding. Yeah. Okay. Here's how you get me. Okay. Is you boot it up and it says, please couldn't connect your Tony Hawk ride board and then I'm like, I'm in and then and then after that, play this RPG and then after that, it's like import your mass effect to save. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Get your DDR mat so that you get extra levels of accuracy. No, like it like just change the chaos dunk to the 1080. Like he did a 1080 once and then it blew
Starting point is 02:16:50 up the planet and then you're in Neo new LA. Yep. That's a good pitch. I buy it like snowboarders do 1080s all the time. Yeah, but that's that's that's easy. Snowboarders are doing like 1000 foot drops off mountains. No one's ever gone past 900 exactly because it would break the sound barrier destroy society. I see what you did. I see you desperately need to play and finish Barclay shut up in Jam Guy and the woman gives birth to a basketball in that game. Yeah. Yeah. Also, the RPG needs a VR headset. Yes, it does. Okay. It still needs to be in shitty pixel art, but it needs VR support. You know what? I think it's interesting that like he's even bothering to get back into games because like after five, you'd like who wouldn't just walk away. Right? He's rich,
Starting point is 02:17:38 man. He's super rich. This means he really cares. Like I'm surprised. Yeah, I'm really surprised that he like care enough to be like like the guys who make this have gone. They've tried. They were all fired into that pit tried 12 times now and they're done, but I still want to make a game and I'm going to find new people to do that. That's so weird to me. Why would he give a fuck? What's he got to do? He's too old to skateboard. I guess like maybe it's like introduce skating to a new generation of kids with those kids just want to MMA fight and he just wants to skate. He wants to be able to skate forever even when he's old. Yeah, and he can't, you know, so he needs to make the perfect simulation so that he can
Starting point is 02:18:24 continue to skate. Yeah, I'm with Brandon on this one. That's his dream. He needs to replace his feeling body with mind skating. He's going to upload his consciousness into the game. No, so transfer into a skateboard, into a skateboard. Yes, Tony Hawk will be skateboard break all the time. And when you and when you ride on this one, he talks to you like a sign Hikaru no go. No, no. And so now the ghost of Tony Hawk is with you and he can help you do the moves and then your rival will see you and be like, why is that random new noob so good? What he is is he transfers his consciousness into the skateboard, but then his voice changes to that of Dom Delouise. Okay. And he helps a kid overcome his high school bullies and then at some point learns to fly.
Starting point is 02:19:06 Yeah, we're basically in the early 90s movie. We're describing Hikaru no go again. That's because I am describing it early. Yeah, we're same thing. Same thing, really, you know, but the main the key though is that the kid that is the protagonist who's using Tony Hawk's ghost powers is that he gets artificially far on it, not on his own, but with the ghost's powers. And then he gets dropped and left to his own devices suddenly without warning, the ghost leaves and he's that in he's at the X games. And then he finds out that the power was with him all along. Yeah, but before that, there's a training montage in which Dave Mira shows him how to do a 360 on a bike and that gives him the lower body strength to do a 1080 on a skateboard. Dave Mira then rides
Starting point is 02:19:50 off into the sunset like E.T. with his BMX triple X. Yeah, but he like literally like fucking bikes into the sunset like flying like it's E.T. out of the story. That's correct. Yeah. Yeah. I remember hearing that Dave 25 million copies was absolutely fucking pissed that his game was the template for that thing. Oh yeah. Sure. Absolutely. Why wouldn't you be because what's fucking Dave Mira doing now? What burgers are he is he flipping? No, he's not that bad, but still don't do this. But hey, it's very easy to say this about us in 10 years. Of course it is. Absolutely. But just because yeah, but you're making it real just because you're not bulletproof doesn't mean you can't fire shots in all directions. Always. I am always about that. Oh man, that's just because
Starting point is 02:20:34 my house is made of garbage doesn't mean I can say your can't say that your house is made of garbage. At what point does the kid end up on the beach and have to go into a wakeboarding competition with his friend Sean Sean Murray. No, no, no, that's what's the what's the what's the wakeboarding game? Sean Wakeboard. Let's see if I can get it there. Come on. It is Sean Murray. It's a different Sean Murray. Sean Murray. Look at this fucking jackass. Sean Murray Wakeboard. Yeah. Yeah. That's you get you get all the buddies from the different sports. I fucking hate wakeboarding and weightboarding enthusiasts. Yeah, I do. Well, then wakeboarding hates you because wakeboarding is skateboarding with the extra pompous shit of my dad needs to own a boat.
Starting point is 02:21:25 But it's harder because you're on the water. Oh, fuck off. I hope they drown. Also, you could oh, I say that and then like, oh, I hope no wakeboarders drown this weekend because then it will get back to me and people like you heartless bastard. But I will. But like you do have you do have the limited time that your sport can exist, which is while the boat is dragging you. Yeah. And once the boat stops moving, your sport doesn't exist anymore. So that's pretty fun. Surfing is too seasonal. What if we just made our own surfs? Every every wave is a new it's a new level. It's a new it's a new skatepark. The only good wakeboarding game that could exist is just it's like it's a hydro thunder and the wake
Starting point is 02:22:05 border is like a cannonball that you can hit other boats with. Like it turns really hard if you had a gun. Yeah, I'm thinking of Cobra Triangle for the nest. I don't know what that is. It's a it's a deep hole. It's a nest game where you're you're in a boat. Yeah, and it's got like tank controls. Shut up. Left and right turn you left and right up and down, move you forward, no matter what direction you're going. And it was very good. I played a whole lot of that as a kid. It was one of the only cartridges at Cobra Triangle Cobra Triangle. You fucking you kill a dragon and it's prime. Man, video games did used to be better. Yeah. They had no when they would make different things. They had no they had no desire for
Starting point is 02:22:52 internal consistency at all. I like that. Nowadays, you can only do that if you're self aware. Yeah, no one's going to accidentally, you know, could use a little less internal consistency. Yeah, Kingdom Hearts. Well, I guess. So speaking of older in this parking lot and then speaking of older games that, you know, had that type of what the fuck why they announce it then double dragon for is delayed to an unannounced date. Unfortunately, that's just like fucking three weeks ago. Well, here's the problem is that the game was supposed to be out like basically this week and it and then on release. Instead, they an announcement saying that no, we got to push it back. I don't sounds like
Starting point is 02:23:42 sounds like cert submission sounds like submission. Yeah. Whenever it's this last minute, they something was discovered in pre-cert. That is a massive failure. That is a big, big bad. No, no, someone at compliance missed something, something they should have found. Yep. So no, that sucks. Double dragon is that where the conversation comes in and somebody walks into a room and goes, how did you miss this? Or why didn't you find this? No, because to be honest, sometimes they don't get enough time. Yeah, sometimes they'll call in certain go, All right, you have like two builds to make this all work and the search guys go, fuck you. That's impossible. And they go, Oh, well, yeah, you know, or sometimes it'll be like
Starting point is 02:24:25 this game. Not that I doubt double dragon forward does, but something will be like this game uses every backfuck feature from like the forgotten pages of the, you know, test all of them in Chinese and like and for some reason it accesses a fax number. So that means a whole number of like a whole set of fax tests have to be run, you know, and you're like, go find a fax machine, bring it to the office and make sure the game, you know, like that type of stupid shit. So sometimes it's not their fault, but someone did miss something. Yeah. Well, I assume when, when they give the compliance guys not enough time, they go find everything you can. Hopefully you find it. We're rolling the dice on this one. And then they come back in a few days ago. They found
Starting point is 02:25:10 something. Whoops. Yeah, we already announced it though. Yeah. And so it's delayed to an unannounced date in Japan. And oh, Western release seemingly unaffected. Well, I guess that's the key detail there. So Japan in particular that Japan care about double dragon. I think they do. I mean, I feel like they've they've had most I can't tell because Matt and I both are create this with these weird fields of I don't know anyone that cares about double dragon but Matt, but apparently Matt just creates a super massive field that makes people care about double dragon. Yeah, whatever. But not all of them. Yeah, see, I love some matches loves double dragon in general. Yeah, I love I love some double dragon games, which, you know, some of them are
Starting point is 02:25:57 good. No, no, none of them are good. That fighting game is pretty okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. You love double dragon, too. No, I don't. You like double dragon. I'm okay with it existing. That's fine. Okay. That's fine. Okay. Um, streets of rage is way better. Well, look, it's not even about that. That only gets compared to final fight. Yeah, because those are good beat them ups. Yeah, you're not gonna get you're not gonna. I know, I just can't stand the way double dragon controls and I can't even remember why it's been like 15 years since I played it. But I remember being, Oh, God, is this gonna be another one of those? It's very it's gonna be another one of those where I pick up double dragon four and go, Oh, man, this is awesome. I was wrong
Starting point is 02:26:38 for 20 years. There's a lot to it. Um, it's not like like, like, did you like River City Ransom? Oh, yeah, River City is pretty good. Okay, well, because you had lots of moves and, um, double dragon didn't have as many moves, but you had a lot of cool shit you could do. Um, super double dragon was something that especially brought in like, isn't that like explicitly removed from cannon? It is removed from the cannon, but you could grab the guy and like grab his hand and then kick over his hand and do a cool flip. Like it was dope. Yeah. That's fine. It just, it doesn't take away anything here. But, um, I'm being irrational. You are and I'm filling air while I load up the screen. I completely would have sandbagged that if my trailer had loaded up quickly,
Starting point is 02:27:17 but I'm forced to. Oh man, I love that title that I'm looking at new game, new fighting game announced Million Arthur Arkana blood. Does this have anything to do with the things that it sounds like it has something to do with? Nothing at all. It's tons of anime. Wait, swear it X. Square Enix business division 10 is making lots of anime, uh, and taking it and putting it into this fighting game. Are they making anime real? They're making anime real, but, but, um, let me just this is the promised year. So the actual games, the actual game looks like it's pretty cool. 2D sprites that, yeah, that does look good. Sprites that remind me a bit of, um, tales slash, um, the, uh, cross zone games a little bit looks a little flashier than I'd like. Actually,
Starting point is 02:28:04 lots of lots of explosions, which is again what a lot of anime fighters these days tend to do. Looks like an anime fighter. When it comes out, we'll have to check it out. We'll have to check it out. But that was announced and, um, I don't, Nitro plus blasters was way better than I thought it was going to be. Yeah, it was great. I thought that was going to be a throwaway anime game, but there's that's a real fighting game. Yeah. And they, and they proudly announced that this is going to be for arcade as well. So, oh, well, that's, uh, we'll find out more at the Japan amusement expo. Goodbye, uh, American tournament scene for this game. Y'all going to get blown up, dude. Everything drops, drops on steam. Come on. Like everything day and day. Uh, maybe not day and
Starting point is 02:28:41 date, but they use the arcade release as like location testing as well. You know, like whatever, but I'm sure you'll get it with a boss character. And when's that to city a game coming out? I feel like that should have been announced for console. Well, it's been pseudo announced, but like that has potential to be like a really good game, but doesn't it use a controller system? Doesn't use the gun con system? No, no, it uses, it's very easily adaptable to like a PlayStation 4 thing. But, uh, the thing with it is that it's a team game and that's the weirdest part about it. I imagine if they were to make it, uh, like the console version, they would make it not a team game anymore. But those, the city games are pretty good. They're better than they should have been.
Starting point is 02:29:20 There weren't super great fighters, but I've heard good things about this arcade version. And the roster's good. I mean, it has rounds up for fuck's sake. It was, I mean, I saw the, the footage of it and then like the, some comparisons to, um, uh, Gunslinger Shadows were made early on, but, uh, Well, that's, I think that's mainly because the way the movement works in the city of games. It's similar to Gunslinger in general. Like it's, it's one of the, it's one of those. They never got into them. It's one of those, uh, massive free movement, uh, light and heavy style of games with like long range and short range as you get closer or farther.
Starting point is 02:29:53 Hmm. Yeah. No idea. Um, there is the closest thing I can think of actually compared to is zone of the enders. That's cool. Okay. I didn't realize that. I don't, was that how the originals play? Yes. Yeah. So, uh, but the only difference is, is that instead of just doing damage and regular, you're building up light attacks to build up how much the heavy attack is going to do when it hits. It felt like the combat was just like we're from the footage anyway. It felt like everything was almost automatic. Just lock on and, uh, the, the, the, the, the combos are, uh, you build up, you build a string for yourself. Like you auto select a string and there's different variations
Starting point is 02:30:32 and the, I, the best characters are the ones that can do their light string until they're heavy, but no, there's stuff there. It's definitely not the best fucking fighting game ever, but like, it's decent. And there's also the novelty of like, my final point is the characters. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. I imagine that'll actually come to consoles at some point with Noctis playable because I don't think he's in the game right now. Uh, so another thing that, uh, I remember hearing about this early on, but I guess they're, it's popping back up is suplex saga. Yes. I wrestling RPG adventure. So who was this for though, Willie? Are you saying wrestling is better than, than I'm saying skating. I'm saying that the, but I think I forgot Brandon was here for a second.
Starting point is 02:31:14 Now immediately regret that joke. I think the wrestling fans are more likely to get it than skate fans. Yeah, they're not as high. Maybe in general, in general. No, they're not. Hmm. Hmm. Okay. No, let's, let's hold this for a second. Which no, I was more high. I was going to say, like they don't like maybe some of them aren't high, but they might be like roided up or whatever the fuck, but I'm like, no, they're wrestling fans. Yeah. No. So why would you shoot droids to go see a wrestling show because you want to feel like I don't, I feel like wrestling fans are more likely to be drunk. Yeah, especially if they're in UK. I will not comment. Please don't. I can't even hear your comment. In fact, I will mute you.
Starting point is 02:32:12 No, I, I, I think that I like the idea of this and that and I have joked about the game that we want to exist where there's a real story happening outside of the ring and that in the ring while you wrestle, you have to like make decisions to choose how to sell. You got to choose how to perform. So this is Suplex Saga. I don't know if we said the title exactly, but it's super, super interesting to me. I haven't heard of it at all. Yeah. I just saw it like two days ago for the first time. Just popped up. I don't know where it was announced to exist a while ago, but I, I'm not sure why I guess it's because they're, they're talking a bit more about what it is and what they're planning for it, but it's from finger gun games. And when I went to go look
Starting point is 02:32:55 up what they did, unfortunately the only thing that they'd have done that I can tell is they made a Minecraft clone for the Wii and they made a let's learn Japanese app and that seems to be about it. I just passed this phone message over to you for a second. Okay. Well, um, yeah. That's okay. Whoops. Well, anyway, no, the, the, uh, Suplex Saga, it's, they're, they're pitching it as an RPG adventure where you play as wrestlers and the actual combat is again, like fully kayfabe. So our, so my question is something like everyone amidst the kayfabe aura are hopefully out in the streets as well. That's great. Yeah. That would be a good stand power. Yeah. Forcing everybody around you has to obey wrestling rules. Yes. Would my stand negate that? Like, did we,
Starting point is 02:33:53 did we draw, like give you that property or did you, I forgot how that came about when last time was on the podcast, but we talked about that, uh, Brennan, the cave. I don't know if I actually, so there was, so there was, there was an episode where we talked about it and we said, if you had a stand, your stand would emit a kayfabe aura, forcing wrestling rules in all scenarios of life. If you throw somebody by the arm, they'd have to do an Irish whip. They have to keep running until they hit something to bounce back. Yes. Every time. And, and, and, you know, if you, if you put your hands out to line up your, your, your, your fingers with somebody, they have to do a test of strength and a test of strength. It's got to go down no matter what
Starting point is 02:34:36 happens. You know what I'm thinking? This is a really strong stand, but you know how the primary character of a story would use the stand, they would abuse the max distance and cause people to rapidly enter and exit kayfabe mode in order to cause bizarre effects to occur. Well, if act two and three could be that you could expand or shrink the aura. Yeah. Well, no, because what it is, it's like, okay, so, oh no, well, you just got into a car and Brennan, you see that car is going to explode. Yeah. So Brennan starts to run towards you and then the incident explodes. You're in the kayfabe field. So you just go to the hospital. You're serving, you're fine. You go to the medical facility, right? Or like, you know, like someone is, someone is about to get powerbomb through a
Starting point is 02:35:23 table and then you pull the aura back and then they die and then they get powerlized for life. You know, absolutely. No, no, no, no, here's how you use it, right? If somebody were to attack you with a sledgehammer, if they step into the field, then they have to hold it and hit you with the top of it. Okay, no, I just figured out what is the best version of the kayfabe stand. And the kayfabe stand is a great ability on its own, but it truly shines when you're working with other people because it forces their gimmicks and their powers to become real. So yeah, okay, wizards go from guy in a hat to wizard. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a guy like Undertaker goes from really tough to actually unkillable. And probably that only works if you're actually a wrestler. You can't
Starting point is 02:36:19 Yeah, no, no, it has to be a gimmick. You have to have a gimmick and it has to be defined and have rules. And most importantly is whenever you show up, an entrance theme will play. Oh, yeah, yeah. Honestly, this is a better ability for the final boss and the final boss that is like as large and as scary looking as Brennan, because the final fight would be he just retracts the kayfabe kayfabe feel and everyone loses their powers. And then it's just game is over. And it's Brennan who is massive and gigantic and scary and everyone is normal people. That's you don't know what that is is when you're playing as your as kids and you're playing an imagination game. Yeah. And then the bigger kid gets angry and then just beats you up. Yeah,
Starting point is 02:37:03 he retracts the kayfabe feel. He's like, no, this game is stupid. I'm going to fight you for real. Oh, God, like if like if you pull out a mic and you're within the field and they hear you talk shit about them, they get really mad at it. They have to. They have to obey or reciprocate your challenge or whatever the fuck. So good. So much you can do. All right. But no, so Suplex Saga, which I hope it's everything that they're promising here, because they're comparing it to Mario RPG in terms of how the combat will work. You press the button rapidly to build up power for a brutal power bomb. You'll fling your analog stick from one side to the other to wind up a clothesline. Every type of wrestling move you do in combat has a different mini game
Starting point is 02:37:50 button combo. That's great. That's a cool idea. Yeah. And is this like this page looks like a crowdfunding thing, but is it is not right? It is not. It is just an announced game, but it is or going to be on stream green light. So pretty much it's like, OK, just, you know, get them green lit and that'll be all they need. It seems like they're making it no matter what. But yeah, sounds cool. I again, I don't think they have a ton of experience based on like the two things they've released. But I think it's a cool concept. And if you follow through with that and the sprites, they show off are pretty fun. I'd like to see that. I'd like to see that delivering because it shouldn't be too hard to do what we all have been wanting, which is just
Starting point is 02:38:35 in the ring, out of the ring, you know, it's it's a it's a concept that almost designs itself. It like you can slap the archetypes onto existing working designs. So all you have to do is make it good, which I hear is very easy. Well, Chroma Squad does this for Sentai, you know, like we have where you're managing. Yeah. And you're doing your you're making a TV show and you're going through the motions of the ins and outs of like what you want your team to be, who do you want your villain to be and so on. So just make it like that. Just have fun with it. And then, of course, have an actual real story and should be great. No announcement as to when that's going to drop. But that's there. Did you guys see at all the screenshots of what the inside of Kojima productions
Starting point is 02:39:22 looks like? The inside of one. I'm sorry. Kojima production. I heard about it, but I need to see the photo myself. Like they're in the space future. They're like Kojima just used him leaving as an excuse to just fucking go nuts. So it's really nice. It's that hallway. It's this really nice like place that's very clean and pretty. It looks like a sterile science slab almost. I remember reading the description and it's described. Yeah, it's this whole damn first thing you see walking in is this all white, empty hallway with a statue of Ludens at the end. And like you have to walk through this every day on the way. And it should be noted that from nearly all perspectives, the white is so it's so uniform and the light is so searingly bright that nothing but the floor
Starting point is 02:40:22 appears distinct. Nothing but the floor and the statue appears distinct and it appears to be a featureless white void. Yes. It will probably drive people crazy if they actually have to live in it. Oh, absolutely. That sensory deprivation for sure. Yeah. No, it makes me think that like looking at how bright it is, the light sources must be everywhere. Yeah. And it really looks like you're walking through a void of infinite light. Infinite white. Yeah, it's crazy. And fucking Kojima just again like treating himself to like whatever money he got from Sony and so on. I would love to see like interviews after and also that offices. It's just a spiffy normal office. Super nice. What you get into like the. But I would I would I would love to see interviews afterwards with people
Starting point is 02:41:08 worked on. It's like that hallway really made us feel like we were working on something special. Yeah. Yeah, because that's a tone setter for for walking into work. Yes, is that you're going to another dimension. Like I'm imagining the first thing I saw when I I thought when I saw the all white hallway is like you're walking out while someone's punching in and you have to walk and acknowledge each other and this and this was bravely going to the future. Long void. This reality that you're now entering, you know, and then there must be very strict rules do not hang out in the void hallway. Like you're you're exactly like like it has been proven that spending more than half an hour in here might be detrimental to your health. Very likely.
Starting point is 02:41:53 And then they have more rooms like that where they have their their mo cap studio. Well, that makes sense for that room to be blindingly white or all one color that you can out. But yeah, it's just fucking over the top Kojima with with. You know, I really love about that shot with the mo cap room. Yeah. And that's even in this highly professional, super awesome mo cap studio for for big boys. The cables at the bottom of that shot are a fucking nightmare. Oh, there's no way to fix it. There's no way to fix that shit. But if you want to see what we're talking about, go check out the story on Silicon Era as Kojima Productions new office is as stylish as you'd expect from Hideo Kojima. It's like I respect it, though. If I had the budget to just yeah,
Starting point is 02:42:38 there's there's a fucking it's like, OK, so you get an interior decor decorator. Okay. Yeah, if I could do whatever I wanted, sure. Yeah, there's there's and then you just you fire the decorator. There's a real aura and you get your level designer to build. Yeah, no, exactly. Yeah, there's there's a real like a house and make it like a video game. That's exactly what I would do. There's a real feeling of like Konami wouldn't pay for this. I kept asking that they wouldn't do it. I mean, if you go like similarly, go look at the world of the world, not the house, but the world that Guillermo Guillermo del Toro lives in. His house is this insane mention of just statues and creepy monsters and creatures and weird eldritch horrors. So they just make it what the inside
Starting point is 02:43:25 of their brain looks like, basically. And he's like, I made this so that not not just that I want to show off cool things, but I want to be able to take a stroll through my home and get inspired every time. So it's pretty crazy. Are you okay? Somebody just sent me no. Okay, somebody just sent me a message and it's from a website called frag hero, who is apparently the people who leaked the red dead redemption to first stuff first. Okay, who are saying that New Vegas to is going to happen. Oh, good. The next fall out is going to be New Vegas to by obsidian. Good. How reliable is that? Well, if they did, I am going to check to see if they are in fact, the people who leaked the red dead redemption to stuff. And if they are, the answer to that is
Starting point is 02:44:16 very reliable. Is that a loop? Inco for for non fighting games? Is it trustworthy news? Is there a scroll scroll scroll? Find out what you can because if that's pretty hot breaking news, you're here first. Oh man, there is actually there is stuff going around. There is like people talking like obsidian people talking like vaguely about their next game and shit. My only sorrow is that Boston is on the east coast. So that obsidian wouldn't make the fallout Boston. Bob coming reveal his plan for maybe for E3 and obsidian is involved. That's the only details. Would that just be fallout, but everyone's got a hilarious accent? The last fallout was in Boston. I should point out the fall four is in Boston. Oh, I didn't know that. Okay. And I didn't
Starting point is 02:45:04 know. And Willie. Yes. Okay. No, that's exactly what it is. Mama Murphy is this drug addled grandma who speaks with the thickest accent ever. Perfect. I knew her. Can you explain? Can anyone explain why apocalypse now is a video game on Kickstarter because reservoir dogs was so successful? You should know, Willie. You helped make it. Yeah. Psycho bullet festival. It's in the game. So I don't know if you caught this, Brennan, but you know, apocalypse now. Mm hmm. War movie, Francis Ford Coppola, a heart of darkness, etc. Yeah, there's a video game. And they're not yet. There isn't their kick starting it and he's involved directly. And sounds like it's just in time. Hey, hey, hey, while the iron is hotter than ever.
Starting point is 02:45:57 Hey, the iron's hot. It's never going to be hotter. Big Hollywood director man who made apocalypse now. Shouldn't you have the personal capital to just make this if you're only asking for 900k? Can you not get one of your pals at Hollywood to help you make this? There was a Godfather video game wasn't there? There sure were many actually. So like, he knows how this goes. The description he understands. Wow. Wow. This is a great lead in. This is a great lead in because I just saw keep that there really so I could read that fucking stupid line of text. Go ahead. Which the description of this in its Kickstarter backer is it's like Fallout New Vegas on acid in the middle of the Vietnam War. Oh, good segue. This thing is going to suck shit for sure. Topical.
Starting point is 02:46:47 I just feel that in my heart. I just I don't know why is that I just you know that's what I don't get is is this like his kids is this like his daughter who's also director no no like I don't know is someone in his ear basically convincing him yo video games man you know or is it like uh I really want to go back to the world of apocalypse now but like the only way to do it is in a video because we can't get the actors they're all like older and they don't you some of them are dead and I bet a bunch of them are dead actually now we can't we can't the Vietnam War killed a lot of people so we're not gonna go back with a bit hard to film we're not gonna go back with a CG movie let's go back with a video I can't follow the the train of thought you know um
Starting point is 02:47:34 but anyway uh they're asking for uh apparently double dragon four is out right now here in here okay cool so they're asking for 900k they're at 142 of that um people really want the apocalypse now game I yeah I yeah I just I just don't know who this is for I don't know what this is it's the weirdest but I just looked it up apocalypse now was made in 1979 so those wow that was hot off the fucking presses of Vietnam again topical well actually that was very topical yeah well he and he said he originally made it as a vehicle to just he wanted it to be like a halloween movie to fund his more artsy movies yeah but then it turned into like an artsy movie yeah and that wasn't intentional intentional but it happened um so yeah by like Kickstarter kind of represents
Starting point is 02:48:26 the new like way of like financing all your projects like he did back then do you mind if I plug a crowdfunding thing that uh has popped up over the past week uh what is it that is very likely to be much more successful than this let me grab it very quickly if you tell me what it is it's pillars of eternity too oh over on fig oh uh fig is that really weird so it's not Kickstarter no it is not that's why it's a crowdfunding and not Kickstarter uh fig is the really weird one where you can invest into it if you have way too much money to spend uh and you can get dividends back on it but for the vast majority of people like it's just it's just a different Kickstarter yeah so I only knew about this because I think Tim Schaefer did it now I've been very careful in
Starting point is 02:49:07 terms of like Kickstarter like thumbs up since mine number nine because who but considering how good pillars one is and how well that did on Kickstarter as a result I feel absolutely no problem recommending uh kicking a few bucks towards pillars two anyways they make good goddamn games does that mean that you might get a few bucks back because of no you have to donate a thousand dollars or more to invest okay and that is not a pledge that is that does not get you the game that is an investment so pillars of eternity to dead fire yeah all right uh it looks really good so this is on fig.co yeah um sure that looks really good what's the um premise no I was gonna say like let me take a look here what they're looking at oh well they're one they're at 1.8 million
Starting point is 02:49:56 of their 1.1 million goal oh well hey so you can back it or you can just let it this this is this is one of those games where it's pretty clear they're like this game is going to happen this is all stretch goals like every single part of this this campaign is for more stretch goals and so they announced like a level cap increase a polish translation subclassing multi-classing stuff like that I guess the decision to go with fig is like probably just well act supreme confidence so there's a there's a really awesome button that you can hit on that page willy which is the question mark next to backers uh and that will show you backers pay oh no there's a button somewhere on there I think it's you click the little bars next to the what does it do it shows
Starting point is 02:50:42 you what money came in from backers and what money came in from pledges okay like what what came in from investments and what came in from yeah and like 40 percent is from investments okay which yeah okay that makes sense why you'd go to fig because that's like five hundred thousand dollars so you see yeah there you go you see the breakdown yes 50 50 yeah so so they wouldn't have made their goal by now if it was just pledges but because so much of that is investment smart yeah it's it's really interesting oh and the number just went up yeah yeah and so they they crushed their goal within 22 hours nice yeah no people would really like obsidian i like obsidian oh my god i hope new biggest two is the real thing yeah freaking out that's that's a cool random rumor um coming
Starting point is 02:51:28 my pants is that uh uh so like i guess with like the way the fallout series works is that like the ones that are not numbered mean i did it it did new new vegas and i was part of the the only way three the only the only way you can no it wasn't okay so the only way you can break it down is this way games that obsidian makes they take place on the west coast yeah that's that's what brennan was talking about with bosson games that Bethesda makes take place on the east coast this is the way that they get around fucking up each other's shit okay because they don't relate to each other but all the cool stuff is on the west coast they might as well be two different cannons and entirely and the worlds are such that you can never really cross the country yeah it's
Starting point is 02:52:15 hard on i don't think obsidian is going to be a jerk and make my character talk yeah they'll give you some speech bubbles to click yeah that's what i want and they're not going to give me uh but Bethesda has a nasty habit of making you try and care about some family that isn't your real family okay brennan can we talk about this for a second yes the the whole crux i've i've never had anyone that cared about this that i've been talking to so i'm glad i'm glad you had that complaint yeah so your kid gets kidnapped and your wife gets murdered in the first 10 minutes of that game and i go oh that wife seemed nice i'll take revenge i can identify with that yep and and then the first act of the game you get that revenge and then the game goes but you
Starting point is 02:53:01 have to save your amazing child that you love and i go i don't love that child that child was not even a human yet the child is a goddamn inventory item that cries really first fucking minute of the game there's mods that replace the the nuke the big boys with or the fat men yeah with uh with the baby yeah but like the entire crux of that game spot there's this huge faction war and there's all the stuff going it's like i have to find and save my son it's the same thing it's the same thing with fallout 3 yeah i have to save my dad i gotta get my dad it's like i don't care about the i like i like we need to be fallout should be a guy or girl or whatever you are that doesn't remember what happened and then you fill in the blanks in your head
Starting point is 02:53:48 the game should not tell you anything there was a there was a really great piece of dlc for new vegas in which uh you run into a character that's mad at you for events that happened before new vegas which your your character has no control over but you get to you get to respond to them in a way that determines what those actions were what they were that and it makes sense it's so much better and it and all of the variances of that of that of those dialogue choices make sense for whatever character you happen to play in the wasteland whereas in fucking fallout for the worst part you get to the guy who killed your wife and you're like oh i'm gonna take revenge right and you get four dialogue options and all four are you fucking bastard i'm going to kill you
Starting point is 02:54:30 none of them are why none of them are who do you work for none of them are hey good riddance none yeah there isn't a one that's like i didn't even like my wife anyway you saved me from the divorce which would have been an option and nearly any rpg otherwise yep and so you fucking murder that guy and learn nothing and then i just checked out it's like okay well i think i did it i'm gonna go do side quests and then they're like no help the story like okay and then the guys like hey there's a settlement you care about that settlement right until right until it right until it bucks out and yep i can no longer add settlers to it nope i i don't like that i didn't really like fall out for because it's from my home it's like oh cool this this should be the one i like the most this
Starting point is 02:55:18 should this this is the game that's made for me this is like the feeling i got this is the one where i'm recognizing landmarks yeah and i got disappointed when montreal was relegated to a single mission in deus ex make a human revolution i have expected you pat to say you checked out when you couldn't figure out what they ate at the settlement they actually fix that oh yeah yeah that's a that's a mechanic in the settling thing okay what's that what's the term again for shandification shandification yes you check out mr betong's video on shandification if you have no idea what the fuck we're talking about but it's basically the internal consistency of your rpg world and how believable it is based on things like what do they eat like the the best
Starting point is 02:55:58 example in that is in meta metaton metatron meta meta what's it called undertale megaton megaton in in uh in ball three where it's the city around a bomb and it's like they tell you that they've been living for 150 years off of scavenges from a local supermarket what really yes that is the one of the first missions is we're low on food can you go get some more scavenged materials from the local supermarket that we've been eating from for 150 years there's there there's no there's no farm animals there are no crops there's no nothing okay and that's what that specific example is where that video comes from because it's like wait fucking what that's that's stupid we finally ran out of food from the local supermarket and there's some in there when you go like there's a couple piles
Starting point is 02:56:52 of shit on the fucking shelf still dude like three weeks into the zombie apocalypse all gone all of it i wouldn't even give it three weeks who would leave it there you know what i mean like why is it still good okay yeah okay now that's that's no the the local grocery store was still getting uh shipments every once in a while yeah after the nuclear apocalypse i don't know man you ever been to a price shop or they really stacked those shelves the even better if there's a blizzard the other the other problem in follow three that's like the big big problem is that okay the the capital got hit really hard with nukes but after 150 years you would be shocked at how much shit would grow back it would not be a scorched fucking wasteland no it would not be a desert
Starting point is 02:57:36 it would be a fucking rain forest or some shit yeah nature fights back um it's and it's like um i didn't like how in three and four really they try and make like there's some kind of morality to your decision like they'll try and make you feel bad about it less so than new vegas yes like my like my mentality in these games is always kind of bad because i guess my thought process is chaotic man messed up the world right gonna mess him up man mess up the world i'm the only one that can fix it so whatever i do is justice basically that's always been my mentality and fall out so a way to have that hit home a little harder for you willy do you remember when we watched batman vs superman oh and you were talking about how the
Starting point is 02:58:28 camera is telling you that superman is jesus yeah fall out three and four do that with morality where they give you they give you an open-ended moral question but the camera and the characters around you and the way people talk about you afterwards you like oh you're evil for doing that i'm like no i'm not i did it for good reason the whole point is that it's supposed to be morally gray in these kinds of games i got you that would wow that would really annihilate it for me yeah that would be terrible um anyway care about your baby right well and i have babies so i should be able to do that but i did not care about that baby well it's it's twofold right i don't have kids and i don't want kids so i go i don't want this fucking digital kid you have kids and you want
Starting point is 02:59:14 to kids you go well that's not my kid that's not my kid i don't care get your gameboy camera and scan your babies and your baby face and then you will care right i'll yeah i would care then yeah there you go i'll care don't take care of your baby in fallout so that you don't have to do it in real life oh i've played uh call of duty with that guy oh really fuck oh you you saw of you yeah him in the background yeah no no i played i played i played ki with with guy who who's like wife was yelling at him in the background about his responsibilities and his baby that's correct but i never heard did you like the baby itself oh yeah yeah yeah yeah so he's really spending his time well he was very distracted play to win um if you if you care about the baby you can write
Starting point is 03:00:10 in and tell us about it at super best friendcast at gmail.com that's super best friendcast at gmail.com that's super best friendcast at gmail.com thank you brennan fantastic is he one of the only ones that just leaped right into it he a couple people do yeah but it's it's quite rare the people in the know the people in the know the good ones we appreciate it i think he actually listened to our podcast i know it's kind of fucked isn't it refreshing yeah no it's weird i don't like it because now i'm not gonna have anything to listen to this week yeah dude that sucks yeah i know that exactly i'm back on last week i messed up if i would have been on last week's show then i did i didn't have to travel this weekend because of the uh special events but we're back on the road this
Starting point is 03:00:54 week so i'm going to be driving again so now you actually need it but you were too bad you were on the thing you wanted idiot you fucked up it's the worst i spoiled the podcast for myself that's the worst that's hilarious that what a unique amazing position um people ask me if i listen to the podcast do you consistently and no i hate this i was there i do i am well yeah but you're doing it for a reason uh um so we got one coming in from jack and he wants to know what is the best flash game you've ever played oh my god i i it's a question of my i have an answer but i want to find a better answer because i don't want it to be so obvious you know it was off of new grounds no it wasn't it was not bread and what was the best flash game you've ever
Starting point is 03:01:47 oh i can't remember what it was called i used to play it so much it was like a i think it might have been like a tanks game or something like that i have to find out now come back to me woolly what about you i'm having yeah i know i'm racing a bit too um ganguro girl no that was decent uh jeez i'm not pico yeah pico's adventure zone archives dot com that's not a video game not a game no there's buttons there um jeez i well i want like the zow zows i loved but i hated the one where you were the player because it wasn't as cool yeah so i can't say zow zow because i like watching it more than playing it um i know there was a really probably a really impressive okay here i got it i got it i got it it was n plus oh wow um i forgot i fucking forgot before
Starting point is 03:02:45 n plus plus and before n plus even there was a game just called n yeah and i had the flash game and i wish and i've sunk hours i wish that uh we had played binding of isek back when it was a flash game because then we could say that you could have said that um but mine with a bullet is winnie the pooh's home run derby oh fuck oh no wait isn't that java no it's it might no find out pull it up pull it up right now because that's really i'm very certain it's that's a really good one i'm really certain that's a fucking christopher what robin i got i i got back to him the other day the god hand and i got i got with the god i got within three balls of beating him and he didn't crush me in a dirt oh i got 37 i got 37 out of 40 crush i was looking
Starting point is 03:03:35 for the game that i was thinking of but madness the madness combat game on new grounds was great i didn't know there was a combat version of that there was a game yeah that's awesome um that's those titles starting to get really bizarre oh man it's flash right tell me flash it's gotta be flash probably i'm i'm still looking remember remember when it saves your progress though new grounds but that's cookies remember what when steam games were on new grounds and free yeah yeah that was you could play it at flash relax dot com yeah yeah yeah okay okay yeah what how's that how far you ever get walls uh i got to uh hold on there's um fucking what's the order what's the fucking order i think piglets first because i got to i got to like
Starting point is 03:04:26 you know it's it's all easy until you hit owl i believe uh rabbit is getting out was where it starts to get a little owl owl is fucked rabbit like like it was all again like the first guys are nothing the first five are okay and i think i made it till owl owl is fucked then comes tigger i i feel like i stopped at tigger tigger is a bastard because i feel because i i remember owl swerving all back and forth and it being a piece of shit so wait you love tigger tigger a second to last but i remember owl being really really bad what okay what comes after owl it goes owl tigger owl tigger owl does the owl does this swirl swirl swirl okay tigger does invisible yeah and then you go and then chris robin has all of them at twice the speed simultaneously and you
Starting point is 03:05:11 don't know what it's going to be based on the way he stands yeah you've no idea have you have you watched or seen yes robin yes absolutely fucking impossible i stopped at tigger i believe yeah and and i remember owl was like you can do it when you buff yourself high enough yeah you get a maxed out it's it's totally doable and then you just know where to put the mouse and you're fine yeah but but but chris robin invisible is pretty he's pretty fucked like yeah like yeah you're fucking currently now no what is it like like uh there's no god no god here today only me oh man fuck and like and like uh poo lining up this shot from earth like from space the ball is coming down and he's fighting the heavens with his bat like i know it's it's chris robin's face
Starting point is 03:06:01 shopped on to sell when he's throwing the spirit bomb and fucking like he swings the bat and knocks the by the spirit bomb away oh man dude that was yeah winnie the pooh is a great that is the answer the the full name of that in case you want to play it and you've never heard of it somehow is winnie the pooh oh shit frog fractions is a flash game uh frog fractions one is a flash game man bubzy is is that unity web it might be i think it is but frog i shit no chris robin because it's no yeah no it's it's one of the reason why i'm here yeah and then you can even throw that spongebob game in there a little bit to the spongebob car game but the winnie the pooh is special because it's fucking for children it's and that's i still earnestly made for children
Starting point is 03:06:53 that's why children are stronger now i still remember or less strong uh the very first time i ever heard about it it was a gaff thread that was just titled this japanese winnie the pooh flash game is way too hard for its target audience and everyone's not like why are you playing a winnie the pooh flat oh my god this is the best game it's so good this is the best honorable mentions there was a uh teen titans fighting game on the cartoon network website and i believe it was flash okay and it was pretty cool nice or at least i remember it being cool yeah i mean cave story is also a flash game oh that's fucked up that's fucked up god damn it now i'm getting all confused all right we need to stop because like that attack on titan game was definitely like like that was
Starting point is 03:07:36 unity that was unity yeah and they're the and the flash fighting games that were on new grounds i would get so mad at them they're bad i couldn't deal they were not good but um but they had characters that you wanted to see you did you really that's all it was yeah that's a that's a good one man it's a good that's a great question uh bruno says um terrorist super best friends i find myself thinking about the euphoria engine and how i absolutely love it when people who get run over in gta grab on for dear life yeah that's good the vehicles that splattered to them that splattered them do you have any middleware that holds a special place in your heart i like speed tree a lot i like uh what's that what's the guys who do the flash stuff for menus for a street fighter
Starting point is 03:08:18 oh god you know i'm talking about exactly who you're talking about they do menus for everything yeah and they're always great yeah yeah including um all of isaac's shit in um dead space yeah uh scale form scale forms scale forms really good scale form is fantastic uh i have a special place in my heart for tress effects because i worked on tomb raider and like pc testing to get the hair right and all that and it always looked good but kind of goofy it's too much and the the physics on it were always wrong it was over the top and i'm like this is exactly what it looks like when it's like you have the tech but you're but you're you don't grasp that reality doesn't need that much the main thing about it for the physics on tress effects is that the hair's weight is too low
Starting point is 03:09:12 so they're you're trying too hard because you have the physics to make things that look like hair but in and in screenshots it looks fantastic screenshots it looks immaculate but the moment it starts moving it's fucking ridiculous and i like i all kinds of weird bugs would happen where like bald patches of Lara's head would be like all yeah awkward and oh yeah i'm just i love that that to me is like it's a personal thing from what i from my work days but yeah tress effects yeah i'm gonna go with scale form what about you brad that's too insider a question for me you can you know what can i i'll you can safely answer the ackee engine i can safely what you can say the ackee engine oh yeah yeah yeah yeah because nothing like nothing bad has ever come out of
Starting point is 03:09:59 the ackee engine nope and everything has like there's there's the little remnants of it and everything it touches yeah i know exactly what you're talking about i you know pour it out for fight for new york because that that was the death now but they they turned an amazing slow wrestling engine into basically a fighting game system and it worked completely i'm now i'm now looking at a list of notable middleware that's fine uh there's okay i don't like bank no big don't like bank was useful for me when i was compressing video uh back in the day when i was doing a lot of editing but they always had these weird artifacting things always i hated and but the size compression was amazing and they load fast but we've we've gotten past that we've gotten past that uh i'm
Starting point is 03:10:47 gonna take one from damien he says hello super best quadrilateral cowboys and weekly guest hacking uh recently got a new cpu cooler from a pc ran into an issue where the items listed in the instruction booklet didn't match up with the items given fucking an hour of guesswork and contemplating later i uh i thought about getting an exchange done but it turned out it was just a completely different way of mounting than stated um what are the worst situations you thought you thought to have landed yourselves in only to manage to find your way out like by improvising i guess feeling better about your did i ever tell the chocolate bar story on the podcast or did i only tell that elsewhere what was the chocolate bar story where i accidentally saw it sat on a chocolate
Starting point is 03:11:31 bar for like two hours yeah and then you should you got up looked down at the couch looked at my pants and thought yeah i had just somehow unknown to myself yep just shit everything's gone everywhere and and i remember telling it somewhere where my reaction is i stand up and there's smeared shit all over the couch all over my pants yep and i just started to scream and i was screaming how because you would have smelled it because because a i didn't smell it b i let you i put my hand i put my hand in my pants and it's like there was none on my ass and it was all on the outside of my pants and i'm screaming and i'm on i'm like i'm about to start like bawling my eyes out with tears because that means your life has fallen to a point where you can't comprehend the fact that you
Starting point is 03:12:29 can't hold your bowels and then i realized i i i calm down for a bit i was like wait i don't smell anything i'd be able to smell it'd be everywhere right it is a candy bar okay did you smell it yeah i smelled it okay did you taste it yeah i did after i deter because i smelled it smelled like chocolate i was like imagine you smell it smells like chocolate you taste it oh no it's shit that's not chocolate you know what man you have to know you have to know so that that is that is number one because that's the difference between like major aspects of my life need to change immediately and oh actually everything's fine did you did you uh did you i cried after that i like no like that was too close there's no that was way too close yep yep and it's that
Starting point is 03:13:20 like laughing kind of ha ha but you're crying like for real because the the the stress was so high because that again life changes need to occur now that means that's a that's a that's a that's definitely a life changer that means i can't determine for hours yeah whether or not i'm shitting my pants or not yeah i can't smell it and somehow my clothes are not an impediment to like your exposure to other human being is now going to be even more limited than it is now yeah yeah and also well i remember talking to you about this bully and i was like what are you gonna do and you start to panic even when i'm telling you the story because we both have the same situation the couch that this would occur on is too large to remove from your house by yourself
Starting point is 03:14:10 so what are you supposed to do what is how are you supposed to just make the problem go away without anybody finding out fire fire burn the whole house down yeah tear down the wall improvise fire and then figure it out from there uh i i can't top that i got no that's pretty good no that's there you go that's making the best of a worse situation um wow how so uh here's one that's actually uh kind of applicable introducing kids to games dare super best killer queens i have a four-year-old son who's gotten curious about the tv shows his dad's been playing oh yeah okay yeah luckily it's all stuff like kingdom hearts curbie and zelda so he's not being exposed to anything too violent i'm thinking about getting him his first game soon a
Starting point is 03:14:57 2ds and a curbie game but i don't know if i should wait for him to master reading before introducing it at what age should do you think kids should get their first game uh any game that has text in it yeah reading would be a big help i think you're asking the wrong podcast first of all however because i have human spawn there we go there's a human being let us know at what age you think okay well here's my predicament because i don't have a four-year-old but i have a i have a two-year-old and a four-month-old and is soon with i guess i'm weird because my kids aren't allowed to watch tv which means i'm not allowed to watch tv and that's why i haven't been playing very many video games unless it's handheld but what i would say is once the kid can read and
Starting point is 03:15:41 whenever you're comfortable with them watching tv i think definitely my plan has always been to get my daughter a 2ds yeah that seems an obvious pick yeah i think that's i think that's the obvious way to go um i i didn't do a good job about keep not letting them because once they recognize that the tv is something they want to watch that's when we took it away oh no that was too late so um no it's once they like once you notice that they're staring off at the tv then it's like okay we can't watch tv anymore yeah but with my older one because i didn't have the older one when she was young um i would play like grand theft auto and things like that so we'll see how we'll see how that turns out in the car so here's what you do you can only go ahead here's what you
Starting point is 03:16:30 do you go down to the store and you get streetfighter five okay and you come home and you have a learning experience and you teach your kid how to do something like you know bonding and then when they fucking start to cry because you smash their shit you slap the shit out of their hand okay and yell at them to get good okay oh absolutely all right that was i'll never let my children be then uh so date then you pile dry them onto their bed yeah and fucking throw salt at them so day two uh you bring them back out uh you put the you put the headset on put the vr headset on right wow wow i thought mine was crazy you grab the control so you make doomsday you load up pt you are not i'm pretty sure that's i i would i would bet that is yeah i i would i would bet if that came to a court that
Starting point is 03:17:21 would be child abuse at 1000 percent illegal like there is no way there'd be like we need like we need to write new rules right now it doesn't exist but everything inside the fiber of every fiber of my being is taking this child away from you yeah and making the laws say that pt is totally child abuse if you force your child to play yeah i think i think i've decided that like when my kids can actually start playing games with me i'll let them i won't put them in a situation where they're like getting beat that they don't like games anymore because i'd hate to turn them off of games yeah but once they've determined that they like them then they're never if i'm if i can beat them they have to beat me for real well dad's the coolest dad's so strong yeah and then if you lose your
Starting point is 03:18:10 huge compared to them you just throw them out a window i mean we we live in a world where you can't hey hashy your kids off of the cliff side anymore not anymore i'm going to do the closest thing so what's the next best thing right yeah beating them up in street fire just do just do just do tick throws all day you can only protect them from an ipad for so long you know eventually that comes along and then for most kids it seems like and then society is ruined forever like well kids take to ipads really well yeah it's like just touch it's like oh it's it's ridiculous my my daughter's too and she can get around my phone she knows where pictures are and youtube and stuff like that and she's not even allowed to use it and ios in particular is so good for kids in terms of
Starting point is 03:18:58 like that's what you're saying i don't know you're saying ios is made for babies got it basically the like it's the perfect it's like it's it's made like what am i trying to say it's not great for them to get lost in that but it's like the way that they navigate it's intuitive it's intuitive thank you that's the word you want um and and that like and finding out about those creepy corners of youtube that exist because i just had a i just had a long talk with one of my co-workers yeah who um put his like uh his daughter just gave her the ipad because it's easy to just like yep okay i need to do something here's here's here's the kids youtube section yep and there's legit like like uh there was one story they were telling me is like yeah we had to cut that out
Starting point is 03:19:39 because she kept on saying i want to see mickey with the blood i was like what yeah that i don't know what that means but that's not good it can't possibly you know like fuck yeah exactly here here child just watch these dank mashups of uh villain number one or whatever the fuck over and over gilva sonner no no what are you talking about the fucking lazy town thing oh we are number i don't know what you're talking about the newest thanks it's the hot meme yeah it's the hot memes it's hot men i'm not up on the lazy town i unfortunately i thought you thought you meant like like like uh like quality rips and re and remixes that'd be good too so i was like i'd like give that to your kid what the fuck um yeah god forbid they could find our fucking channel but
Starting point is 03:20:24 we've seen the the really scary ass shit that's in that corner as well where it's like a machine just basically generates like videos oh i thought you were gonna talk about those fucking barnyard like uh machine demonstrations where they're throwing like fucking horses into the grinder no no i'm talking about where it's like i'm talking finger family that's family finger family videos and pregnant spider girl and and all that and then it because i think i'm pretty sure those things just like take random things from the internet yeah it appears to be some like search results robot creating those but it gets creepy because humans are creepy yeah that's that's it's like the collective consciousness right right if the internet is a collective person
Starting point is 03:21:05 that i don't know if i'd want to hang out with them because they're no absolutely no no dark stuff you are programming uh like a like a laughing man standalone complex into your child yeah by having them exposed to these youtube playlists every day when they turn of age they will start acting as the as they but to the original question your kid's four years old ah give him a 2ds give him a mario game give him a curbie game the original suggestion was very good curbie game no that seems that seems completely good that's rock solid and there's a i mean isn't the whole thing about curbie is that it's supposed to be accessible to anybody who plays it yep yep it's also great like in general planet robot and also then you can work up as your as your child grows
Starting point is 03:21:49 and you gain more insight into their personality you can find that exact line that all children have how much stimulation of what content is too much well did you have any friends when you are younger that their parents let them play anything and you as a child were like i wish their parents didn't let them play violent games no because i knew a kid experience at it all i knew a kid eric his little brothers if they played a wrestling game they would try and kill each other for days sure and i remember being like 12 and being like i wish that i wish that eric's parents did not let his brothers play wrestling games with us because because it's bad wow right and every child has that line most of them are over on the crazy not crazy line but some of them like eric's little
Starting point is 03:22:36 brothers yeah psychos we didn't get any eric unblast we didn't get any oh fuck eric he's a bitch we didn't get any filters for like violence and shit we just got filters for like satan oh yeah me too me too i had to hide um i had to hide it what was it it was an inuyasha game the demon tournament and i had to flip it because i was like no it's different japan mom it's not different yeah it's it really means only it really means only yeah and and and dungeons and dragons and having like and all that was even that was like no your your role playing is it's almost like yeah whatever your mom takes halloween seriously you don't know what you're missing so yeah uh i think that's fine you know you you start off with kirby and then you go to kirby planet
Starting point is 03:23:26 robobot and then you go to gurin lagann yeah and then you go to zone of the enders oh that's a good progression or or you can just do what my parents did and just be like let me play whatever the fuck i want but then walk over and be like what the fuck is explain that are you right that way that was a thing if i could not explain it like that thing's going away interesting right but i was always able to explain it and show that i wasn't going crazy so totally well adjusted over here totally normal as long as you can like show that you understand the difference understand like that this is not real that this is a difference between like the real world and and what not and every time i stepped over that line and started to be like a dumb kid like my shit got taken away and i
Starting point is 03:24:08 didn't i wanted it back so then i would behaved okay because i'm trying to i'm like like like fast forward or or rather rewind i was playing receivable two when i was 11 at release i'm trying i was trying to picture what game it would be and i'm like try to like have your parents sit down your parent and try to explain like a paz cutscene yeah you know what the fuck yeah okay all right all right that's fine um let's take one from uh tay who says uh buian buckface uh with the news that fire emblem guidance being remade which is considered the black sheep of the franchise because it didn't have essentials like weapon triangle health or spells etc well that's weird uh what quirky black sheep game would you like to see a remake of that's 100 000 percent yes
Starting point is 03:25:03 devil may cry too just there's cool stuff in that game but it's drowning in trash yeah they there's just some sort of like zelda to simon's quest you know i mean snakes revenge is a weird one zelda zelda's too is fine yeah so no simon's quest is bad but not horrific but like the dmc two is like fran near franchise runner if the dmc five project was just devil may cry to remake i would be equally i'd be very happy equally as happy plays lucio she's cool yeah she's got the knives and shit anything special to you um i'm trying to think of something else because that's a good one um i guess i would say the uh persona one and two and let the give me some dating simon elements and oh you want to go back and have like a hard retrofit of the modern persona go go go
Starting point is 03:25:54 yeah ram it in there what's that sound it's smt fans crying out the distance take it i don't care fight me iRL that's not fair brennan it's not fucking fair this might go to your giant pro wrestler that may be the least fair it's ever been you don't get to say fight me well you know what at the same time it's like if you if you uh oh that reminds me of something like if you become an expert marksman and then you go duel me it's not you know it's like well i've powered up my level and you should have used why did you all you were is it my fault you didn't grind well yeah while you were studying the blade i was studying the gun you know that's it like you didn't spend enough time putting your oh what you do where you should have you learned how to play guitar how quaint
Starting point is 03:26:48 duel me in a battle of the bet like whatever pick the playing field that you win in um so that reminds me of two cool things before i take the last question someone wrote in till uh uh to send me two pieces of really key information because we were talking about dueling and oh yeah dueling rules so there were two really cool things who because uh we were talking in uh parasite eve two about like the origins of like dueling and like how that like modern gun dueling right they did that for like a long time they did and like i remember reading about the last one done in i think in north america or whatever where like the two guys were just cowards didn't do it and completely they showed up but they pushed you out super hard um the whole time they're just trying are you
Starting point is 03:27:31 sure you want to do this yeah bro yeah let's let's do it so i got i got two cool things that explained a lot of our questions one was saying regarding your question about duels there were more about proving you were brave enough to put your life on the line to prove a point than actually killing the other guy okay that makes everything wait so much would bring a party of people and use the match smet of smoothbore single shot pistols not very accurate only fire once from about 10 paces each around 50 60 feet these pistols were only reliable reliably accurate to 20 feet and most duels ended in a handshake rather than either participant getting shot okay the western trope of the quick draw duel has never been able to actually happen is it well no but then someone
Starting point is 03:28:13 else had something well here's the thing the the deal about the western quick draw duel that went entirely that never made any sense to me is that almost everyone in those quick draw duels are hardened murderers so why would they actually do an honorable yeah why would you have some honor yeah so well here's the thing that the other guy explained to totally invert that whoops the first guy yeah because he was talking about the honorable duel yeah with the whatever from long time ago but the wild west style shit he said the um the 10 paces in turn shit was never an american thing that's a european thing about honor blah blah blah duels in the 1900s wild west were fought facing each other from as far away as you felt like being the reason movies and shit depict those
Starting point is 03:28:57 duels as quiet stardowns before guns blazing is because murder was and still is super illegal killing someone in a duel was still considered murder but self-defense was legal as fuck so the trick oh that's why your opponent reached for his gun first that's why the duels all look like that and you reach for your gun and you're faster and you shoot them before they can shoot you so that's why they're wiggling their fingers and so on because you're trying to goad them into pulling their gun first like you're gonna do it you're gonna do it and then you kill them in self-defense beforehand making it totally okay oh it's like supers and certain fighters whoever goes second wins isn't that fucking awesome that's pretty cool that has completely revolutionized how
Starting point is 03:29:47 i look at duels and westers that's the coolest thing because i never understood why they're just standing there not killing each other it's yomi yeah it's yomi legal yomi okay that's legal deadly yomi oh wow wow that's great i'm that yeah loopholes for everyone uh and to take one last one from um no i'm credit i'm gonna give sorry let me give credit you just stole their information and uh that's credit to uh two people one person who who wrote in was um loss in turner and the other guy was on twitter and the other guy was restless corpse so those dudes fucking dropped some awesome shit dueling is way cooler than you thought uh that's way better and last one from james who says a couple weeks ago a certain patch to a certain game dropped with a certain
Starting point is 03:30:45 sloppy voice clip uh that would play nigh constantly in a boss fight uh it was removed it's the hammiest thing i've ever heard wait it was removed yeah so a really annoying voice clip that would that's not true at all i ran that dungeon like four days ago and that fucking shit was still there oh wow oh did they change it oh fuck that's bullshit so what's the best slash worst of uh battle banter that just doesn't stop so i want to give there's a there's a there's a like top number one with a bullet undefeatable but so i want to give a slight amount of context for that it's a boss fight at the end of a generic dungeon that you would do like every day yeah and the boss for some reason during most of his attacks has a sound clip that is like five times louder
Starting point is 03:31:29 than all of the dialogue in the rest of the game and it is him in a fucking scottish accent going sloppy just over and over and over and it's so fucking weird and hilarious and completely fucks up that whole boss fight because it's a character that you've been waiting to fight for two years and you get there and it's a hilarious joke where he has a catchphrase that he keeps throwing at you wow it's fucking dumb um so what what bread and do you have one does it does it have to be a it doesn't have to be a boss fight right no my my uh my the first thing that comes to my mind is uh no more heroes the you're getting your jollies getting your jollies getting your jollies yeah uh i have two that pop to mind right now one is the rumblefish the rumblefish
Starting point is 03:32:19 the rumblefish but that's great uh that is no does it have to be bad oh no i guess i was just looking for like uh annoying bat oh i got one for you then yeah jonathan charlotte jonathan charlotte charlotte yeah just over and over and over and over okay i'm gonna try and pull up what i believe oh yeah you have it number one number one for anyone who all you need to know is burn to the ground mega man x7 okay flame x7 hyenaard if you're not familiar i'm gonna try to get let me see if i can get the audio up here for everybody oh geez i don't hear it is no okay okay let me let me let me see if i can load this up can you can you uh on you
Starting point is 03:33:25 dude that's the worst dude like this is this is how it's shipped yeah that's the it is let's turn that off please it is by far that's the absolute worst that's way up there man um that's way up there i can't believe they let that rock it's just a like they took because they took what were clearly japanese recorded voice lines of like the boss like barking and rowl whatever that reminds me of one but then they replaced them with lines that were way too long for the moment they were supposed to be used in yeah and they didn't care at all so guess what i know exactly that that exact situation happened with a different game and you're familiar with
Starting point is 03:34:19 it woolly part of the ground you know it's the phrase my armor with fucking i guess in a fucking persona for arena where she gets hit a lot a lot a lot of the the arcsus games have this problem but that one was so bad it's so clear yeah it's so crisp it's a full sentence and she'll cut herself off in combos that's the that's the yeah my my my arm oh fuck you i so caliber two just kidding oh dude every win quote from virtual fighter they're all yeah every single one fighter to all no all you haven't kept up all of them the worst is leon and his fucking i don't make allowances for old men no but allowances for old men is an improvement yeah because the original localization was i don't make it a habit to fight the elderly also jackie's lines are pretty goddamn abysmal
Starting point is 03:35:16 but besides yeah i think every time virtual fighter has ever come up i have pointed out to people try and find this clip and it's and it's leon in vf5 diving to grab ashiba inu as a car drives through the arena and almost runs them over and he just screams that i'm the winner and the dog starts barking as they start rolling around on the floor it's the fucking worst also the car just teleports into the arena and phases through the environment because fuck it it's one of those weird arcade like bonus uh wind poses oh yeah oh no but it's when it's like the what's special about burn to the ground is that he cuts himself off constantly to say it again and screams constantly also and he howls like a wolf because he's a hyenaard or whatever hyenaard yes yeah okay um good
Starting point is 03:36:08 question that yeah i but getting your jollies is just fun though because you're killing a room full of them with the strawberry on the shirt get your jollies get getting you getting your getting your getting your getting your jollies when the barks when there aren't enough barks or they're not randomized properly i feel like this is a very japanese problem like all of the games we've talked about who that have this exact issue are all japanese fighting games it's almost magical because it's like those should be the most annoying repetitive things most of the time if you don't get annoyed by it it's because the barks are good yeah you know but like i have to say it for us uh you know it has annoying as it is when it happens in arxist games like the fact
Starting point is 03:36:50 that it sounds like the characters are having a full conversation during the fight is great yeah that's super cool that's cool um you know when when when you get a solved game you get solve this solve this solve this solve this like it sounds awful to anyone walking by you know but um i do appreciate that yeah game in and in games like guilty gear and blaze blue in particular yeah the arxist games they have multiple recordings yeah and they have uh alt sets entirely for certain matchups for certain where i'm going to say a completely different thing when i'm doing my my grand viper or whatever yeah um so what is uh coming up what's coming out uh brennan excuse me please let people know where they can find you and uh where they can find the
Starting point is 03:37:41 business you can find me at great black otaku on twitter and instagram and everything if you look it up probably and maybe someday you'll find me on the wwe network that you can get for 999 and you can even get it with crunchyroll for i don't know there you go less than both of them combined that's good that's good that's a good that's good yep oh uh mike's your dude reminds me uh psychoball psychoball psychoball fuck team psychopower yeah fuck them yeah they're the worst athena that actually like early on made playing in the arcades rough because 98 was right next to all the street fighter machine i was so loud and just it was the loudest it was yeah well no actually loudest was always the moral combat cast um k3 they yeah but that didn't last that was gone by then
Starting point is 03:38:30 yeah i know but yes they they blasted it they're like let's break some noise regulations it's because the arcades they they realize that it's a sound battle williams in general and midway realize it's a sound battle you know i know this is i know this is just like my own mind playing tricks on me but when i think back to like walking by the um c3 machine i i feel like in my mind i could feel like the machine giving off like k3 yeah i could feel i like my memory is as i would walk by i could physically feel mk3 coming out of the cabinet at me no because it was moving the air and it was actually causing vibrations when you when you stood in front of it and you put the coins in and you got the and you got the boom like it you it hit you and it was
Starting point is 03:39:18 to the point where like if you're standing in front of a speaker at a concert and it's like this isn't healthy it was it was kind of crazy yeah you're like well cool we're like this is speaker in a way about one minute in you're like oh but you heard that chow con laughter no matter where you were no matter where outside somebody's fighting chow con you know no no no starting up the game though the like every time guys out in the parking lot know that somebody's playing the game so they're safe to sell drugs in the parking lot because no one's watching they're all watching the more combat cab uh so i guess as far as we go uh we've got more parasite eve we got more dark souls we've got more resident evil seven and more one-offs i don't want what
Starting point is 03:40:00 we're gonna do this week but well um i'd like to like i said some of the games we played are games that we can play more of yeah that's a good idea so like there's some new stuff and they're not one-offs anymore no they're two and three-offs exactly and we can have thing we can have weird things like part three of two oh yeah okay so yeah okay all right so uh yeah we're definitely you know that you can bomb the rocks into the holes i fucking didn't we found out yeah people love me now so um that's the craziest shit i've ever heard we're gonna we're gonna play some new games and we're gonna take a look at uh other games that are one-offs and slowly becoming more so oh sorry matt wasn't here on the podcast this week uh he was on max's stream
Starting point is 03:40:43 last night though because he's down in LA hey uh he's not gonna be back yeah i don't know that hurts uh he's not gonna be back until what tomorrow whatever the plane lands i don't know i don't know we should find out yeah um and i guess that it will do a podcast on monday that that would be the end of the week um yeah well no i really we gotta find out any lines because yeah no because me and woolly right before the shape right before we came up here i'm like oh let's figure out what we're gonna do on what day is i go do you know when matt is coming back and he goes we'll talk about then and then we're here and like i still don't know when he's actually gonna be here and if i can shill for the shill master uh plug for the plug boy that that one didn't hit the way you think you
Starting point is 03:41:31 may have wanted it too uh it will anyway uh jeff through aka mother's basement boy is he a good shill man he's a pro it's kind of crazy like he invents new shill tech did he go to school for that it like he said he said it gets in the family he said it's uh you know he learned it from his father and it's passed out his great great grandfather was a sneak oil salesman yep uh in the beginning of the the the sao video i think well at least one or two of them he does a patented double shill that he calls like the the old through family secret you know so so uh yeah i know he pitches a loot crate and that loot crate is a is an anime box with a crunchy roll yeah a sponsorship which is also sponsoring him of course so he gets right into his crunchy the family has been
Starting point is 03:42:23 chilling loot crates and crunchy roll for centuries legendary uh so no but he made a great video uh that i was um he was nice enough to invite me to help him out with which is the what's in an op diamond is unbreakable that was awesome i love that so before you right after you made that before went up you came to me and said hey pat you like those interests i go yeah and goes there's so much more in them than even you think there is and i go you did that the last couple times when you first found out about mother's basement and i'm thinking man i watched those with fine comb tooth and nail and i looked at them and i got i got shit all you got i got nothing nothing honestly like sitting just getting on the skype with him and we just spent how does he do that does he just watch them a
Starting point is 03:43:12 million times we just spent four hours rewatching no because i've seen him analyze freaking garbage he's he's just a talent like like straight up we just we just watched it and within we frame by framed it what is that and sometimes the frame didn't change for like really long periods of time as we discussed what was there was there was one moment of smarm near in the in the in the great days intro i'm like ah you missed it haha i got oh no wait you came back in 30 seconds and we're like it's just for pacing reasons you came to it on the reverse version of the intro there were however amazing things that we did miss that people did start pointing at dude what that you couldn't like i feel like the crowdsourcing is the one of the funnest well that's the power because
Starting point is 03:43:57 that's the power yeah so some stuff that we missed including like like a comment about how um someone said oh the sun actually the the clock represents jonathan and we're like what what does that mean and it's like no what that actually means is the the the justice clock represents the joe stars because it's a sun which is hamon yeah it's got hermit purples vines going through it going through time and it's time so it represents all the joe stars it's the joe star legacy and then what happens josuke walks out of the legacy into morio oh it's so fucking good oh how long did it take them to even make these old peas that's the thing is every time every time they come out the time feels like it's exponential and now that it's a three-part crisscross mismash where
Starting point is 03:44:51 every all three of those intros are one sequence and there's bits and pieces that wrap all around like where do you go from here it's so fucking good man um there were some other cool things that uh we missed that one's like enormous that was fantastic but i would never ever ever have no we we missed that we missed that we also missed uh the the weird face at the end with cosaku in in great days how the panel from the manga that you don't see in the show of cosaku's body has exactly those parts of his face ripped off because that's oh that's what it was i remember and that's where cinderella pulls his face off including part of his forehead yeah so that explains that yeah um well that's that amazing yeah a cheap trick is on rohan's back in the shadows oh yeah
Starting point is 03:45:38 you forgot to mention i actually caught that one on his house yeah yeah you know there's quite a few so uh please if you have any interest in joe joe's bizarre adventures and you've been watching you know what he should do right he should make a denims of that video put it back out with more shilling it'd be cool if we could dlc it but uh yeah go ahead go ahead check those out those it's a really good video i had fun recording it and we have a really cringe worthy skit in the beginning which is exactly as cringy as i hoped it would be yep um and i'm also that we clearly filmed like four and a half five months ago yeah clearly and i'm also gonna double shell for i patch wolf double double show because he i'm gonna i'm gonna add to that show combo because i patch
Starting point is 03:46:18 wolf does great stuff he put out a video of like hey dude watch one piece so he put out a one piece video and i watched it and i went oh oh that's pretty good that may actually have value yeah uh it and it feels almost tailored to me because of like how i always felt about one piece which is this looks cool but there's too much of it his weight his videos his videos to me are like what i think about things but don't know how to say yeah so that's his power check out the the recent video on super i patch wolf about one piece uh particular it's specifically called um i think like uh where to start or something along those lines how much to something you know but uh it's very good and if you have any interest in it um yeah also check out the check out the one he did on
Starting point is 03:47:02 the uh fighting fight scenes yes that was because he makes the very accurate comparison that pro wrestling is the same thing yeah um the appeal of where to start the appeal of one piece where to start no like that first follow like that follow bleach video like caught my attention and it's like no dude hey uh hey let me ask you a question willy yes do you watch the you watch the whole one piece video yeah and how many times does mr mr wolf say one of the best blanks in all of anime how many times uh because it's one because it's a it's a fine line that i really like but boy does it show up a lot when you watch like 10 of his videos in a row yeah he's like i guess the the question would be like what's the rest of anime you know in that consideration but yeah he did use
Starting point is 03:47:49 it at least one sister i love you i patch wolf as long as you can defend it then you can absolutely make uh well it's like he did he did he does it three times in epo i'm like oh that's cheesy then i'm like no wait he's talking about fucking epo yeah these guys are great that punch is great dude you can make absolutes as long as you can then back it up with a thesis statement but only a sith deals in absolutes willy well or or an otaku or a wolf or an anime fan it's fine anime fans are stars what i can work on oh marvel disney canomarts nailed it like epo is just low-key like always there and if and like you all you'll forget about it but then someone will go yeah the best blank yeah was done in epo and you will question it are they ever gonna make a new season man i hope
Starting point is 03:48:36 so there is so much manga yeah that is unanimated there's an omnidirectional demcy role that we need to discover you know how many more fights fucking uh takahata has gone through he's gone through five since the anime ended i just want to know how they're gonna beat the last intro because the final intro to me is just god tier and the the the again demcy roll into the darkness yeah smoke trails like oh they'll do it they'll do it can't beat that okay we gotta go okay it's time to go guys yeah podcast is over go go back to your lives thank you for spending a few of your precious times precious few free hours with us my precious times are leaving soon keep us keep keep us up to date and uh hopefully soon we you won't have to keep us up to date we'll just see
Starting point is 03:49:23 and no yeah all right man thank you guys and thanks for coming on brun very appreciated later awkward awkward this is awkward awkward is this going into the podcast this part no play the music play the music you can call me knuckles unlike knuckles i don't chuckle i rather flex my knuckles heart is knuckles it ain't hard to chuckle i break them down whether they knuckles the knuckles unlike knuckles i'm independent since my first chuckle first knuckles feel their knuckles and the knuckles chuckle born on an island in the knuckles the knuckles flows inside me
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Starting point is 03:52:15 clench yourself with evil spirits that come in you please knuckles now stand by me tomorrow the pain is fucking just believe the knuckles is blood or lovers we all will be waiting when the sonic sees its time this is my planet i shall not stand up to all the pain and turn more get heavy and then i'll eat and feel or get so empty and streaking lights loud sounds and boosting blood so don't get upset so knock on me knock on the wall so they won't crack knuckles collision oh won't be guy
Starting point is 03:53:06 fucks up not go under what is so weak so we call a new we need to accept mama knock down i'll be waiting when the sovereignty is restored this is my planet i shall not surrender yeah the new walkie-pon on the knuckles with the knuckles out the knuckles with the rugged knuckles cock cock is cockles the knuckle for an independent co-hold magical composure give you the knuckles shoulder my cock goes through boulders that's why i flex my boner i'm hard as nails i don't need a post i get it all on my cell
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