Castle Super Beast - SBFC 187: Enemy Codes Will Save Nintendo

Episode Date: March 7, 2017

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Yeah, that's hot. That's the hottest hot. It's fire. That's us. What's good, man? So, Pat's on day 17 of his trial. Don't worry, you'll get acquitted, man. But it's you and me today. Justice for Pat. It's you and me today. Hashtag. And why I like you and me sometimes is that when- I like me. No, well, like together when we have to, like, just carry a conversation, like when we did spoiler cast for the Game of Thrones and stuff, there's this shorthand between us specifically. And I can't think of any other person where if I say wet, you'll say works. Or I'll just, like, growl and scoff at the concept of the game. Wet. Wet, yes. Wet and of itself. Nothing good comes after you say wet. Usually
Starting point is 00:01:08 wet. It's followed by disappointment. Wet tricks. Isn't that a good N64 puzzle game? So there's wet works and then if you say night, I'll go hood. Or hawk. Or hawk. Night hawk. Who's night hawk? The comic book. Oh, the Marvel. Marvel. I got mixed up because it's shadow hawk. Or thrasher. Or night thrasher. How far can we go? We can work it. Let's try two more. Let's try two more. I mean, every once in a while, if something just hits your mind, just let it loose. Just let it fly. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Sporadically throughout today. Let's see if we can get that going. Okay. That's not bad. We set an achievement goal and then we see if we can hit it. You know what? I like this. Yeah. I like setting
Starting point is 00:01:55 achievements at the outset of the podcast and seeing if throughout the podcast we can actually make them. Okay. Because that's that's where we need to take our podcasting game up to the next level because quite frankly, we're doing all right, but we're not hitting that Joe Rogan level just yet. No, no. Unfortunately not. Yeah. And I think I think friendcast achievements is where we're going. I think that's all right. I got a hot one right now. Okay. We talked about it the other day a little bit. I mentioned it. So I'm excited to see if I say star, you say, I mean, I can say star wolf. I can't. There's multiple things you can't say and all of them are kind of right. Yeah. There's two wrong ones. There's
Starting point is 00:02:32 two wrong ones. Yeah. It's a material. Oh, metal. Yes. We got to go with metal, of course. Okay. The like the no star metal. Yeah, that's fine. The incorrect answers are wars and trek. Yes. Those were incorrect. Yeah. Because that's general. That's like any, any bump off the street can say that. We're talking star wolf or talking star metal. Yeah. Okay. We can also say exorcist or you can or child, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah. All that would work. Yeah. There's a couple of different places. That was but the answer was star metal. Okay. Okay. Just making sure, just making sure. No, so we'll, we'll, we'll start mellow and I might in somewhere in the back of my oh wait, hold on nightboat. Yeah, what about nightboat?
Starting point is 00:03:22 Oh, just nightboat in general. You're just saying nightboat. Yes, nightboat. We got another one. Yeah. Okay. So we can, we can do this. We can do this, but don't, don't, don't you see, but you can't do that thing where you're looking off into the distance and not, I'm looking at the predator, Jerry. No, no, no, you can't do the thing where you're, because that means that you're putting it in your like, your main processing like, like, you know, so right, everyone. I've never seen someone nail me so bad right now. It has to be in your cores behind. Yeah. In the, you know, I carry the conversation and then randomly at some point you go, bam, something, something pops up. Dude, those two cores in the back are extremely
Starting point is 00:04:00 unreliable to me. Those can store things for about 30 seconds and then it's gone. Okay. I'm sorry. I'll try though. Please do. Please do. No, no, no, no, that's, wow. That's like, like, I said this, I said this on a plane to, to Liana where it was like, man, I've never been nailed so hard by anybody about what I am where I was, I was saying something like, I was taking something down in my bag and I go like, because we're sitting on the plane and I just go, oh yeah, so there's a piece or something. I said like just an innocuous thing. I was like, oh, I got to get pieces or something because I, whatever. And she goes, did you just say you have a Reese's Pieces card? And I was like, no, but I totally would have that. Like, yeah, I got a Reese's Pieces card,
Starting point is 00:04:47 let me in. Yeah. And I was like, why don't I have that? And then she also was like, if I'm done with the meal, if I'm done, I start doing this. I start flicking things off. And she goes, oh, you're doing your little little flikies. And I'm like, I am. I don't even know this about me anyway. Darkstalkers, the Night Warriors. That's another one. That's another. It doesn't have to all be night. No, I'm just going off. Going off night. The first initial one. Dayman, Fighter of the Nightman. Yeah. Well, yeah. No, okay. There's a lot of places. Yeah. Then there's just Nightman. Then there's just Nightman. Would you just ever see that shitty show that was on? With the fucking, with the, with the, they got the moon thing, right? Yeah, I think so. But there was
Starting point is 00:05:27 like the shitty live action TV show that was Canadian. Yeah. And he had like a big dumb glowing red eye and just put myself in the eyeball. Awesome. And, and it was just like, there was that and then there was the fucking, oh, Witchblade show. Live action Witchblade. Yeah. They're making a new one. That got, that disappeared really quickly. The show or the character? The live action Witchblade. Yes. That was like one season. Because I remember being like, why would they do this? Because it was on TNT. You're not going to get almost naked. She's so close. With the perfect. What's the point? It's like the only reason why Witchblade ever went anywhere and got as popular enough to get an anime out of it was because fucking shiny titties is what boys wanted to buy.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Okay. And they had this character that like, like, like her nipples were on the edge of her, of her body. As far back as they could go. You know. Okay. Look, see, I'm doing this right now because I'm excited because I want to talk about Witchblade for one specific thing. Not Witchblade, but I really liked Witchblade and I liked any character that Michael Turner created Witchblade and drew the, the Tomb Raider comic. Sure. I also think he made, I forget what he made, but he was an image guy. Fathom. Fathom. Fathom, the woman, yes. Fathom, Witchblade and Tomb Raider would always cross over. They would always cross over because he was the guy that made, yes. They were TLC, all three girls.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Every single cover of Fathom ever covered, sloshed in water. Her hair is slashing all over the place. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Witchblade, Fathom. Right on the level. Fathom and, and yeah. Michael Turner, he died, unfortunately, just randomly a few years ago. Okay. But like, I loved how he draw, how he drawed, fuck it, how he drawed girls' faces. They all look the same. Every single one. The Etch and Cairo disease. Vaguely Asian. Vaguely Asian, but back then, Matt was into V. Of course. I am always am. Of course. Get your PSM covers. Yes. Yeah. When I was 13, I was like, yeah, vaguely Asian. And now I am too. Now I'm vaguely whatever. But like, back then specifically,
Starting point is 00:07:37 I was like, yeah, yeah, that's good stuff. That's good stuff. No, dude. Like, like, I feel like I ended up seeing more crossover covers of those three things than the individual comics in the end. Like, Lara has guns like this. And the Witchblade is coming behind with the arms. And then Fathom is just like, look, I'm wet. Every single time. I'm fathoming it up with my wetness. And, and like, I had the one friend that would collect them, like, ravenously. You mean me? Well, I mean, at the time, it was Carlos, our Brazilian friend. Oh, okay. And he was just like, yeah, like, I don't care if it's the same comic every week that I'm buying over and over. I have needs. Yeah, they are being met. Yeah. Yeah. Like you said, Witchblade
Starting point is 00:08:24 was like, like you're watching a show and she's wearing like jean. Well, because she is a cop, right? The character. Yes, exactly. And she was always wearing jeans and a leather, leather jacket like cops always do. Detectives. Yes. And she would wear that in the show when she was like investigating crimes. But then when she got the Witchblade, she like transformed, she's still wearing that stuff. She's just got extra goo on her. And it's just like, why, as a kid, why would you have like the why would you get the IP and do the thing if you're not going to do them the whole thing? That's like having a Vampirella show. Yeah. But she's in snow pants. Yeah. Fuck you. Yeah. No, exactly. Why did you create it? If you wanted to create a snow pants superheroine, just make one.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Don't take my my vamp. Like, do you see that new Vampirella? I posted a picture about there's like this new design. Oh, I think he did. Yeah, she looks like Mira a little bit from Killer Ink. So she looks awesome. That's pretty dope. I think yeah, I got like you posted that and it was right on when I posted that Harley. And I was like, Hey, yeah, how about this? Right. And then I reminded you. Yeah, well, real Harley. No, it's like, if you're not doing the Jester motif, then you're fucking doing it wrong. And that's the end of that. Overall, yeah, that's why Arkham. I can't remember city or night that had a cross between Jester and Sexy Nurse, where her bottom half was Jester and the top half was still the Sexy Nurse thing. Okay. And I was like, that's okay. But
Starting point is 00:09:53 yeah, still that one you posted, it was good. Despite me joking around, I was like, Yeah, no, that is a good Harley. And the problem is, is that like you do like my the my opinion on Harley too is one that like it goes against what most people nowadays are seem to be accustomed to. Yeah. And what they like, because it's like, this is this is the cosplayable one. The pigtail one is easy to cosplay. So that's what most people are going to go down for. And I'm like, I understand why you went this way. But just fucking you're like, whatever, whatever it's fine. When Kojima created a beauty and the beast unit character, that's kind of hard to cosplay. If you're going to go the whole hog, especially and get into your machine or whatever, be a crying wolf. But
Starting point is 00:10:42 you know who's easy, quiet. All I'm trying to say, yeah, that's there you go. All I'm trying to say though is if you make a cosplayable version of Harley Quinn, and then that takes off, then why can't cosplayable Spider-Man, aka Ben Riley, take off? Yeah. Why? Why didn't we get a whole a whole crazy amount of homemade dudes and blues hoodies? Well, there was there doing their scarlet thing, because that scarlet spider was like just just the 90s. And then there's a new scarlet spider. He's got a new costume. But like back then, yeah, it was easier. But that thing looks terrible in real life. Because people have to have red spandex and their junk is all shiny. It could fucking blind you. But nowadays with like people doing like green man and blue man and stuff like that,
Starting point is 00:11:29 like it feels like you could just get that red spandex anyway. And the fact that like he actually literally grabs crap from a department store as they're running through it and puts it on him and grabs a Sharpie to draw the spider on it. There's lots of DIY Spider-Man costumes. Like there's the movie version. Every version of his first costume is always a shitty nothing version. Yeah, this is the version Tony Stark makes fun of. This is the version Tony Hawk burnt in front of Peter that type of stuff. So or why can't we get the more cosplayable versions of Spider-Man like Kane? See, that's another name that you know. How is Kane spelt with an e mother fucker? He knows it, everyone. K-A-I-N-E. That's the edgy way to spell Kane. Also, you got to have your your cape
Starting point is 00:12:18 of vague web rippings. I thought they're veins. I always thread them. Because I always read it as like, okay, we have to put something spider related on this character. Because otherwise he looks nothing like anything. You know where this is leading to, right? You mentioned Scarlet Spider. Of course. It always goes back to fucking spider side. It always goes back to spider side. That's an achievement unlocked. Spider side mentioned on the friend cast. I don't give a fuck. Look up spider side Spider-Man. You told me about this character's existence like a few months ago. I don't know how you missed. Dude, I dropped out of reading 90s Spider-Man when his family were robots and then the family had artificial life and then the vulture stole the artificial life
Starting point is 00:13:06 and became young forever. It was the worst. Because everyone hates the clone saga and everyone remembers how horrible that shit was. But all you need to do is see a single screen of spider side to really like, if you weren't in the middle of it, you just see this character and go, oh, okay, that's what I missed. And that's more of a character that was born of, hey, we need a new spider villain or character or whatever it is. What are some spider related names and puns? Oh, spider side, like insect side, insecticide or whatever to kill them. Because we have venom. And then what's after that? Like anti-venom? No, that's too dumb. We'll do that in 10 years. For now, though, what do we got? We got spider side. Nice. And everyone else from
Starting point is 00:13:51 separation anxiety. Scream. Remember we looked it up? Dude, we have to save this. This part we have to save. Okay, but I'm saying, but like, I know for a fact that like every single time, we've had the same conversation about all of those. And we've never, ever remembered it. Scream is one. Sure. Screech or was it? Scream. It's the yellow girl. It's fucking. I hate it. I hate it. Every maximum carnage. Dude, we'll never remember. Oh, God. It's the worst. They're so good, though. They're not. Oh, they're so good. I'm getting excited. Get hyped for bad 90s comics, everybody. Oh, man. They're the best. Yeah, never forget spider side. I thought there he is. Well, anyway, there he is. So yeah, keep it there. Yeah, no problem. So spider side,
Starting point is 00:14:49 Chad, did you end up watching Witchblade as like the season came out? I just caught random episodes when it was on. I think it was like on after wrestling or before or whatever. Yeah, it was just really bad because like the girl that they got was just like, she didn't really actually look like the character at all. There was no vaguely Asian about her. She's just like regular old Caucasian, which is not what I thought. And it was just like bad. It was what like early 2000s late 90s or something. It was just it was like real like, no, it's like superhero shows today, like legends tomorrow on the flash and like their money is spent on those. So they didn't even do the thing where like at the last episode, she looks like the character from the comic for a second or
Starting point is 00:15:34 something like that. I don't think so. Did you ever wind up seeing X-Men Apocalypse or no? No. Okay, we'll talk about something about that later because there's someone there's someone that gets a costume that's their comic book costume. Yeah. And I was like, well, that's actually kind of interesting. Yeah, because I feel like that's a thing that you know, you can do when you're in your WB or excuse me, CW versions of shows and stuff is like or even like when Luke Cage gets his tiara. Yeah, or whatever. Right. You have the little moment where you go, hey, look, it's the thing. Yeah, you expect it from like a show like Birds of Prey or Dark Angel or something like that. Birds of Prey. I fucking love Huntress. But am I going to do my Huntress cosplay? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Well, the world is waiting with bated breath. Now, I look real good. I did not go see Apocalypse. I skipped out on that one. I'll do it eventually. I just mentioned it because yeah, because of the costume. But I did go see Logan. Oh, you did. Okay, I was talking and you were talking about a little bit and you kind of made it seem like you'd seen it, but I wasn't sure. I saw Logan. Okay. And you haven't seen Logan yet, right? No, I haven't. I was planning to this weekend. Guess what? Yeah. Go see Logan. Go see Logan. Yeah. All right. I have one question to ask, but continue. I expected that it was going to vaguely follow the old man Logan and it does not. Yeah. At all. Just the tone. The tone and the fact that we're jumping forward into
Starting point is 00:17:07 the future. Yeah. And it's like, Logan's just like, oh, fuck this. Yeah. Right. Shit sucks. Everything's terrible. And we're just going to jump into a shitty future where I'm trying to just leave me alone. Yeah. Right. Is the only thing that's pretty much, you know, a carry over. I'd be fine with that. The kind of the tone is the thing that I think it's harder to nail. And if they kind of nail that sort of tone, I'm like, Hey, because to be fair, a lot of stuff that happens to the old man Logan is like not filmable. So and, you know, for the third time in nine movies, okay, nine movies, 17 years. Yeah. So nine movies, only seven of which I think have actually had you in it because he had a cameo in
Starting point is 00:17:57 first class. He's been in all of them. He had a cameo in future class in first class, but that was about it. But it still counts. Yeah. But he's been in all of them. I don't know. I think because I remember looking up afterwards and they're like, this is his seventh and final movie or whatever. What's X-Men really? Oh, he wasn't in Deadpool, if you count it, because they do go to the X-Mansion and then his classes. Anyway, see, but whatever, you have one, two, three, and then the new one, two, three. Yeah. And then you have Wolverine one, two, three. Yes. Right. So yeah, this is like the one of the good ones, you know, and it's still majority bad as a franchise of Fox's X-Men. You saw the Wolverine, the Japanese one. I did see that one.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Yeah. That thing is okay. That falls right in the middle. Yeah. Because the last last act is like awful. Yeah. But like the first start, it starts out as the middle as it starts out decent. Yeah. No, that's exactly it. And it falls in the middle because it's like, everything about their approach to the Wolverine was, let's fix all the stupid shit we fucked up and make something more. Yeah. But they fucked up a lot of shit so they couldn't possibly have fixed and done everything good. Well, I mean, one thing that was dumb was they're like, hey, let's actually go for like a PG-16 rating or a rating that lets us show off Wolverine actually killing motherfuckers because that's what he does. Yeah. Right. And then somehow like,
Starting point is 00:19:19 because even in the comics, too, there was a thing where it's like, depending on what you're reading or what the tone of the book is, you'll either get Wolverine just kind of threatening people and cutting robots open. Like an X-Men comic, that's what he'll do. But in the Wolverine comic, he kills dudes. It's not super graphic, but he's killing them. Well, in Wolverine and Domino, fuck all over the planet. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever that, whatever I forgot it was called, but in that, I think that's what it was called. Wolverine and Domino fuck all over the planet on piles of money. Literally. And that thing, like he's like, graphically murdering people. Graphically fucking. Yeah. But no, and not PG-16, but whatever the rating was where they were like,
Starting point is 00:20:05 they had to censor violence and PG-13. I guess it's 13 then. Yeah. So that's what they got. Obviously. And Logan here as well. And motherfuckers get offed really, really. I've heard it's real bad. Yeah. They're like, you know what? You know what? Much like, why would you do this and not have the witch blade titties hanging out? Yeah. They're like, okay, well, now we can do whatever. Why not have like, yeah. Sex and violence. That's what it's called. Well, yeah. Yeah. So the one thing, yeah. And one thing that I always like, I always think about when it comes to like, all that graphic and gory like shit and whatnot is that like with someone with like healing factor and stuff, you can, you can have some really brutal things happen. Cause you can have a skeleton
Starting point is 00:20:53 walking around. Yeah. You like, well, you know, when, when Frank drove that steamroller over, over Logan and just parked it and went, all right. Oh, I don't know if you know about that. Like, there's the one, he drove a steamroller halfway over him and just went, yeah, you stay here for a while, right? Because everyone forgets a little over and can get out of that. No, he doesn't have super strength or just like, like, yeah, to the point where he's just like a bunch of bones in a bathtub, like, like, rejenning over the course of two weeks or whatever the fuck it was. Yeah. It's pretty brutal. And like, yeah, no. So you have like things where it's like, yeah, you can see how bad it can get for someone with like healing factor and stuff.
Starting point is 00:21:31 Um, but no, all in all, yeah, it's one of the very, the good movies for sure. The tone is good. One thing that's that, that is really great about Logan is the dialogue. Surprisingly, like written the script itself is very like, there's not a lot of talking where there doesn't need to be. And what is said is like, there's like, there's like a surprise amount of silence. Well, it's more, it's not a surprising amount of silence, but it's like you can infer a lot from, you know, the little things that are said here and there. And obviously, since it's the first time we're doing a comic book style jump into another setting, like there's a lot that's happened between the comic book days, you know, and the future. Yeah. But like, you know, and in a comic, you
Starting point is 00:22:20 can just expect to find that out going through it and whatnot. We've done this a million times, but movie goers haven't really done this. So they kind of have to sort of introduce the, you know, the, like, here's vaguely what happened. And here's how we got to this version of the future. Well, I guess the only thing about it is like having a prequel of first class was kind of like, we're now we're jumping way back. And then now we split into this new continuity, like timeline or whatever the fuck it is, I'm so confused into me. But yeah, going into the future can't like go like, where's my Batman Beyond movie type thing, right, which I would love. I mean, the world might be ready in another two bad Batman movies.
Starting point is 00:23:01 We need to see more shit. Right. I mean, like we're not getting before before Terry can save us. Yeah, we're not getting Cassandra anytime soon. But like, that's that that she's going straight to TV if she ever showed up. She's going straight to DVD. She ain't get on TV. Like who's going to sign up for a character who has like no lines. Like it's like, yo, you want your actor card? You want your sad card? You're not getting it, you know? But anyway, I think I guess if they had the internal monologue, but but yeah, no, the I don't want to say too much, obviously, since it's, you know, you can see the tone of the movie. It's drab bleak, quiet, and it's very good. It's very good.
Starting point is 00:23:45 All I can say besides, you know, the obvious is, you know me. I am all about that, Laura. I'm all about that. You are about Miss Kinney. I'm all about that X-23. And I didn't think I ever would be because the idea of a Wolverine clone sounds like the most boring thing. You know, just lambasting the clone saga. It sounds like the most boring thing in the world. And then it turned out it wasn't. And I think I've explained it before, but like my introduction to X-23 was through the comic Nix. So yeah, she first appeared. I didn't expect or like go into thinking that she was going to be in it. I was just reading this comic Nix because the artist on it is what is I think my favorite comic book artist, Joshua Middleton. He's his
Starting point is 00:24:42 style is just completely different and awesome. And I yeah, I was just following his work and then like she showed up in it. And it was after like the bad shit happened. And then she was just a street kid. Right. And it's basically like, yeah, you know how like you play beyond two souls and like you get to that that fucking alleyway scene. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And whatever. Right. Well, it's like, yeah, OK, well, there was no David Cage prompt to stop the bad things from happening. It was bad, you know, and like, you know, and so and before she becomes the X-23 that we all know and love, she had a really fucked up shitty past, you know. So here you got to represent all of that expectation in a new character who's obviously a lot younger and so on. And also
Starting point is 00:25:28 balance it because the movie is called Logan, not Laura. Of course. And then you're like, and then you go, all right, child actor, what do you have for me? Yeah. And in the end, you're like, you know what? Yeah. That's that's fine. Especially at that age. Yeah. Like because I'd imagine the character, this won't be the character's only appearance in a movie. Well, I don't know. That's the thing is that I just assume there's just punchlines almost revolving around like shitty child actor moments happening. Really? And without saying, I don't want to elaborate, but like that's interesting. But I enjoyed that, you know. So I have one question. Villains. How are the villains? Because I think a lot of Marvel movies have this problem where,
Starting point is 00:26:16 except for like one or two of them, villains are very, I don't remember who the villain was. Who is the villain of first class? What's his name? Um, fucking mutton chops there. I forgot that. So the villains of Logan, you know, the name is gone, but I know exactly who and and mystique was hanging around with him the whole time. Another girl. It was a mystique. Yeah, I know what she was on the other side first. It was white queen. White queen. Sorry. Why is white queen hanging out with? So I'm fucking saying anyway. All right. So you know Kevin Bacon, whatever. Yes, but who's he playing? Yeah, I forgot. Anyway, anyway, well, you know, keep that in your two cores and bring it up when
Starting point is 00:27:08 you go. It's got it. I see you fucking tight. I'm gone. I'm gone. I'm gone. I'm gone. So the villains are the Reavers or something. Is that what they are in this case in Logan? They're the cyborg guys. I just see them in the trailer. Oh, no, no, no, they're just they're just guys. I mean, they're just shitty future people. So are they is the actors good for there? Are they evil? Yeah, I do. They serve their purpose, you know, but not like not like no, like honestly, it's not because it's not it's not about individuals. It's about the force. Okay. Yeah, there's like a bunch of guys. Yeah. Okay. So was it weird? I just heard that like, since they have they are rating like Xavier swears
Starting point is 00:27:51 like a sailor. Yeah, he does. Does that come off as weird and forced? Because he doesn't swear the every other movie. No, no, like it's it's how do I put it's like it's not too forced. Um, it's not it doesn't happen too often. It's just kind of like, shit sucks, man. So when the world sucks, everyone's just like, you know what, swearing now. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Those are the two things I want to know about. And the thing is like, like, and I was gonna say like, you might like the Reavers, right? They're like not I can't act. I don't want to spoil. Yeah, I don't want to spoil too much. But it's basically just you know, it's not like the individuals matter really. Okay, you know, it's just like,
Starting point is 00:28:40 fucking you and me on the road, we got to we got to get away from this shit. Who would do the thing with these Wolverine movies is that all three of them have had shitty villains like the first the first one had saber tooth wasn't the main villain was more like striker, you know, stupid general striker or whatever. And the second one was just Japanese Lord, the guy that you know, that he has he has stuff in the Wolverine mythos or whatever. And this one is like Reavers is like, where's cyber cyber? Yeah, with the fucking with the blade. Yeah, he's got like big metal arms and like, and like we're Shiva, the fucking cool ass robot like Wolverine has a decent rogues gallery like just him like the specific villains that just kind
Starting point is 00:29:27 of fight him. And if there were any they're like there is there is a like leader type guy. Yeah, that's just like a slightly less generic dude. And then there's like a force they have to fight. But if they put a villain with a name of some kind in this situation, it would have been inappropriate. Okay. It would have been inappropriate. And it would have like, it would like all I can say is like, it just like, I guess thematically, you there's not much like who's worthy of taking this final cyber, you know, there's not many people there's not many people that are worthy of taking this final challenge. Okay, okay. I got I got a villain you don't fucking know from Wolverine boy here he was in like maybe he was in a couple issues and
Starting point is 00:30:16 he came back is a vampire called blood scream. Okay, no, because of course his name is blood scream. He was all decked down leather and had gray skin and his mouth with elongate like violator from spawn. Okay. And he had like, draw the drool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he had like dark sunglasses on and he was like, like an old ass vampire like he's from the 1800s or something. Or even further back and he's just been living whatever and he's like, I really want Wolverine's blood because that'll like power me up and shit. And he like met Wolverine when they're a bit younger and he comes back. He has after Wolverine got adamantium taken out of him. This was like the run of Wolverine dealing with villains when he has like no adamantium no healing factor.
Starting point is 00:31:01 So it was like, I remember these issues specifically because they were quite good for a while and then they were they actually yeah, yeah, they're in they're in pretty well, then they kind of they change writers or whatever and I kind of dropped off but I remember blood scream being like that's the worst name ever that is like smacks of image. Okay, but he's still kind of cool. It's you sure about that? No, that's a bad drawing. You got it. You gotta find the picture. I found the picture of him and we're looking at it. No, no, you gotta find the 90s. You gotta find that that's an earlier one. That's not representative of blood screen too bad. Damn it. That's a really shitty vampire. It's a stupid shitty leather wearing vampire. Shades
Starting point is 00:31:45 in a long white ponytail. He's cool. And I'm so disappointed that you started that out and then went no, it was good. I will find the panel for you later and I'll show you where it when he can look cool. Anyway, so yeah, because it's so minimal, I don't want to say much more about Logan, but it is cool. And I will say that the role that Professor X plays is fucking dope. Cool. I like it. Because that was one of those main things when they first announced this thing. They're like, oh, it's going to be kind of like a Professor X is kind of like with him the entire movie. I'm like, that's cool. Why not? Like, I like their interactions when in the all the other X-Men movies like I hope Wolverine continually calls them wheels. Last of us with kind of with Papa
Starting point is 00:32:32 Chuck. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And yeah, no, it's a good one. Go, go do it. And I think like, well, there's definitely some some there's some weak parts, you know, like it's not a perfect movie, right? But yeah, it's it's absolutely like one of the better offerings from Fox. And it may and it leaves the question open as to like, where do we go from here besides obviously cashing in on Deadpool? Yeah, which this was the first of their new thing they're trying, by the way, which is our reigns, which is well, not just that, but like it's not no post credits tease in these movies. In this movie, they announced it beforehand. There's a Deadpool trailer, the one that guy that was released baked in like on the like when the film starts after all the
Starting point is 00:33:28 other trailers are finished. Oh, the film reel for Logan starts. And the first thing that happens is a Deadpool trailer. That's I didn't know that's how it worked. I know that they released the entire thing online. And I watched it. I was like, that's weird. And it's like three minutes long. And I'm like, what are they doing? That that that's okay, cool. But I didn't know is at the start. It's very weird, because it makes you wonder if you're going to see that on the actual Blu-ray, you know, like, are you going to press play? And then the first thing you're going to see is or just in the extras or whatever. Yeah, because because it's still like, it's clearly like an unofficial, like not unofficial, that's the wrong word to use entirely. But it's more like,
Starting point is 00:34:05 it's not like the teaser ends with like a big like credits poster with directed by this and so, you know, it's just really like, bam, sort of coming Deadpool, whatever, you know, because that trailer is like more like a tonal thing. In case you didn't know what the tone of Deadpool would be, here it is. And it's not like actually a scene. But I like if you look around that trailer, you can see all these little hints of why like what they're like, there's a little graffiti on the wall that's like saying this and saying that. Yeah. And I'm like, cool, cool, cool. Like it confirms some of the stuff we've been hearing about Deadpool, too. And I said to you on Twitter, Deadpool 2 is being directed by one of the directors of John Wick 1 because
Starting point is 00:34:46 and it's being written by the guy that wrote Cabin in the Woods. Like, cool. That's such a good. That's interesting. That's such a good pairing. I think, yeah, when we when we walked out of it, because like I waited behind on the credits anyway, just to see if they're online. Yeah. But no, my girlfriend compared it. She's like, it's kind of like Pixar movies, with the short that comes in the beginning. Yeah, the little anime shorts. Yeah. And I was like, you know what, that would be interesting if you embraced it fully. Like and like, there's a teaser that you can do, obviously. But how awesome would it be if it's like, we want to make a movie about it or rather, we want to show off a character from comics,
Starting point is 00:35:21 but we don't want to commit a TV show or a full movie to it or a Netflix show to it. So here's a little short. Remember the Marvel shorts, the on the DVDs for like most of Phase 1 and Phase 2. And it was really just following Agent Colson and there was like one or two things or somebody else. Yeah, it's kind of like those. You know what I'm afraid of? If that becomes a thing, like put the thing in the start, it might be like, hey, if we put them in the start, people will be like, once it gets around, like all these things are starting to gotta get that and then they have to watch more ads. Like at the start, because if you don't want to miss it, like fanboys don't want to miss it. You're going to go there and like, oh, I got to get,
Starting point is 00:35:56 oh, I got to watch ads. But I'd watch like a little like five minutes short about Morph. Spider side jubilee or if you're if you were to watch that, I like Cloak and Dagger shows coming. They're coming. They're coming. Yeah, it's true. I want you to be watching the Morph thing and you take your glass and say this one's for you. Yeah, yeah, I know. Because like, I feel like, you know, any, any lower tier, like C tier villain characters that really are not going to get, you know, because like B tier, you go, you go to TV or you go to Netflix, right? And I feel like anything below that so should should go to. So where would long shot long shot is firmly in B minus
Starting point is 00:36:49 really B minus C plus because long shot only only has your attention if he's fighting mojo. That's true. If he's not fighting mojo, then he does not have your attention. The best thing about long shot is the name long shot. That's it because it sounds like one of those dumb names like kill spot or blood spot or death blow. But long shots in actual term, like, oh, that's a long shot. Yeah. And that's why his ability is luck, which is all but also like there's bull's eye who just has aim, right? Bull's eye also has adamantium shit in him too. Anyway, also long shot second thing was he had his glowing eye thing and then it's guess what cable has that, right? Yeah. And Nate, Nate Summers has that. Yeah. But same
Starting point is 00:37:32 shit. But you know, like, everyone from that future verse has like a glowing eye. Yeah, single shadow star to Legion when he wants it. Yeah. I watched a couple episodes of Legion, by the way, the show. Yeah. It's it's a mind like you like those movies are like kind of really mess around like like psychologically. And this thing is like, you're it's hard to follow because it's so like, whoa, where are we going now? And of course, Aubrey Plaza, yeah, in there. It's quite good. But it's hard to follow. I'm hearing it's interesting. And I like the concept of I like because like Legion's an interesting character where they did dumb things with him, but then they did cool things with him at the same time because she's like immensely powerful, but he's also
Starting point is 00:38:16 really like complicated. And he's and he's and he's just a whiny ass fucking daddy, daddy, why didn't you love me type character? Not in this. No, I know. But I mean, you know, yeah, but that's like, that's kind of the thing is that like, at his worst, he's like that. And at his coolest, it's like, oh, shit, you have like, thousands of like your your powers are ridiculous. Yeah, he can bend reality like and I guess if you just kind of tease the show with me to like do that thing we were just talking about where it's like, show me like a clip from the last episode where he's got the hair and he's doing yeah, it is loading crazy thing. Give me one second of that. And I'll be like, all right, I'll watch to see it get there. I've seen two episodes.
Starting point is 00:39:00 He hasn't even because the actor looks nothing like him. The actor is a guy that I'm very well versed in because he was in Downton Abbey. Okay. And he also was in the movie The Guest, which I still highly recommend. The guest is is is pulpy 80s thriller. And that guy's awesome in it. He's also the beast in the new Beauty and the Beast movie, the the motion cap actor or whatever. Yeah, of that guy. And he plays he plays Legion or Dave. And and he's just very, very different to what I was expecting. I always confused Legion with Proteus. Oh, remember in the cartoon, the X-Men cartoon Proteus, and he's like the son of more like a son of Myron the Tiger. Yeah, yeah. And he's he's always like my father. So I always thought like, wait, is that
Starting point is 00:39:45 Legion or did they rename the character for the cartoon? No, you have a similar backstory, but it can bend reality. But what but what you're basically saying is like, it's a good show, but don't go in expecting it to relate at all to right now. No relation to anything. The biggest relation to even the X-Men universe is the logo. Legion, the O has an X in it, of course. Yeah, but that's that's it. Like, I only watched the like the first two episodes. Like the fact that they're like, OK, we can do the TV show thing too with our Fox, Foxiverse effects, you know, and it's like, yeah, right, man. Sure. It seemed like a very interesting show, though. OK. I also do. Yeah, Logan was a thing. To be to be I played a lot more of Binding Visic on my own
Starting point is 00:40:31 after Breath Plus. And I'm actually getting the hang of that. Now I feel like I was able to beat mom a couple times. Thomas, I was able to. Yeah, exactly. Tron Geism. I was able to beat mom a couple of times and then I was able to beat it on hard with my mom's heart with Azazel. So you're getting in there. I'm getting in there a little bit mainly because it's like I've gotten to the end of Necromancer. I haven't beaten it yet, but like Necromancer and Isaac are pretty great for like I'm in the middle of editing or rendering and I'm taking a quick break and I have a big work day ahead of me for like a whatever, like a work. Yeah, I'm working on a lot of Woolly versus shit. Right. Well, as you should. And I'll be like, I don't have time to sit down,
Starting point is 00:41:19 unfortunately, and play like a Neo level or a For Honor session. Right. I'll do like an Isaac run for a little bit and stop and see how it goes, you know? Well, they're fast. Exactly. Like low commitment games, you know, and no one can find a game in For Honor anymore. So I don't know for sure. But if you were the same, like I know you can. But unfortunately, it's like, yeah, the like not dedicated servers while being a necessity of a not shooter type game, it leads to disconnection problems. And there was a big interview actually explaining exactly how and why the For Honor has those the connection problems. It's like because there's no dedicated servers, you're obviously you're growing like P2P and everyone's inputs are being like sent everywhere and then simulated
Starting point is 00:42:03 together. And if one person disconnects, it has to resimulate everything. And if that leads to other people's instability, it causes theirs to spike, and then you just get a fucking domino effect. So no one gets to play. And then no one gets to play. And it's like, but, but anyway, you need it because like the frame data matters more than in a game where you're across the map and I'm doing a hitscan shot to you. But yeah, the but by now that I'm getting a bit further in and sort of seeing how it goes. Yeah, binding of Isaac is absolutely like it's funny because I guess I was playing in the videos that we put up, I was playing way more timid, not sure of what was going on. And like, and you're and it's really more like a just run through it, pick up items,
Starting point is 00:42:50 see if they work for you and see how you don't think about it so much. Don't think about it so much. Just see if you get a good build out of it. And if you die, just restart instantly. Yeah, if you don't like like your your first room setup, you know what I mean? Like if you take a couple times, if you go through the first couple rooms, and you're like, ah, it's taking too long to get to the gold door or whatever, just fucking restart it, you know, I only played it like a little bit. So so and I was like, well, this is this is because I always, always like, oh, this is meat boy. Yes. And sometimes meat boy spin off. And I'm like, no, it's not. No, no. And I had just because the art style and I had no idea going into what it was. And like, if you go check out the video
Starting point is 00:43:28 we played it for the first time on the channel and I was like, wait, what is this game about? Exactly. It fucking I was like, oh, no. Oh, this is bad. This is hitting way too close. And then fortunately, it becomes utterly ridiculous and disgusting and just leaves all all like, you know, touch. It's no longer in touch with reality. It's more of a spin off on fetus of God than anything. Absolutely. Oh, dude, dude, it's another achievement. If I go fetus, yeah, you go of God. Well, because what like what happens? Like you beat mom, but that's not the end. There's more to it. And like you literally jump down the sacred uterus tube into that area. And it's like, oh, wow, we're getting in the real disgustingness
Starting point is 00:44:17 because you're going you're going back into the anyway. So it's super gross. And I feel like that. And then the fact that you're like destroying like fly corn riddled shit and and so on for items is like, that's actually what saves it from being too much for me in a way. Yeah. Or like if they if they continued that narrative or that story of like, you know, Isaac's mother thought that, you know, mom said Isaac is a bad boy and he's filled with the devil and she went into his room and wrecked his shit and ripped everything away from him and whatnot. Like it would have been like, oh, God, I can't I can't I can't deal with this, you know, but the cut scenes are like people like handing him presents and it's like, oh, I pooped in a box, your dick fell off, you
Starting point is 00:45:00 know, like, oh, and it's just like super duper over the top. I'm like, okay, you're you're I can't relate to that anymore. You're so far gone. Right, right, right. That's good. Yeah, really good game though. Definitely fun. And yeah, you need the right mentality going in, which is like not timid, which is like I learned that in other roguelike games, like I said, and it took me a minute to learn it in this. Some of the abilities and shit that you get, like, it's insane because there's such cool things that can happen that you have a chance of never ever seeing. Right. Yeah, okay, because of the odds and because of the fact that there's thousands of items in the game. It's insane where you kind of like, you know, though the whole philosophy of like designing
Starting point is 00:45:46 things and then like putting effort into stuff and then like, you don't design anything too big that the player will never see. Like this game, like never will see. Yeah, this game, they give no fucks. Okay, there are there are entire certain nobility and not giving a fuck. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty impressive, especially in game design. It's pretty impressive. I've done everything there is to do in Super Mario Run, and that's that. Not much to say. I haven't booted it up. That's fine. Since my initial boot. And I guess the last thing I'll say that I did with my week that is not just work and shit is I played some more Kingdom Death Monster and that game will kick your ass. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:46:32 Kingdom Death Monster, you say. Yeah. Okay. That's that brutal ass board game. Right. Of course, yeah. It's just boss fights, basically. And wow, wow, wow, wow. It's like, it's interesting how like you can go into sessions of this thing, kind of feeling like, yeah, I got the rules down and then know the next. The next basic bitch thing is just like, oh, bad rolls. Fuck you, you know, or even when you're not fighting it and you're like out your settlement and just you like you pick up the you have the chance of picking up like a car that'll be like something good happens to your settlement or whatever. Yeah. But like it's like sandwiched in between rife, horrible shit and plague and disaster
Starting point is 00:47:27 and strife and whatnot. And that plague, like fuck you. Exactly. How do I? Exactly. That's not fair. It's a play. Exactly. And you flip that over and it's like, oh, the game might be over now because it's literally like, or we're on the path to being over at the very literally roll a nine or a 10 or you die. Yeah. And you're like, okay, so just fuck everything right now. Like, you know, yeah, man, RNG. That's that's that's the risk and reward are not even RNG, just RN of tabletop. But but at least oh game is over. I thought I thought it wasn't you thought you were having fun. I opened up the bloodborne card thing and just looked through everything and I was like, okay, I know I gotta wait. I gotta see the pieces. I gotta see the gears a little bit.
Starting point is 00:48:21 Yeah. Yeah. No, it's it's the tabletops are definitely a commitment and you know, you're going to spend a couple hours and whatnot. But when you get into it, you get into it, you know, depending on I guess if you like feel that you have an active enough imagination to, you know, like see the things through and whatnot. Otherwise, I could see being really boring for somebody that's just like looking at it like snakes and ladders. Yeah, no, like someone expecting like a board game, which is traditionally very like active physically. And you're still still obviously for tabletop a bit. But like, there's no mechanized shark. Yeah, like a fucking mousetrap ball or lava. There's that lava game where you're like little marbles and you're going down like
Starting point is 00:49:05 a track and there's this exploding lava monster or something. You don't have that volcano island. No, that's all in your head. But you have a character sheet. And that's that's what you're supposed to care about. Yeah, the call in your mind or the creative character out of the cack in your mind. But yeah, and then that's that's me. Let's take a quick word from our sponsors. This week, the friend cast is sponsored by please say spider side. No, but it is sponsored by creature quest. Okay, spider side is not in creature quest. But if you're a fan of Heroes of Might and Magic, I am the creator of that. I am a fan of fans of Heroes of Might and Magic. The fan of that the fan of that the creator of
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Starting point is 00:55:59 much just because of the writing and still a lot of stuff, the writing, the art style, whatever. And again, even a second session in now I've played it for three hours, six hours. And some people are like, yeah, maybe around 10 in total. Okay. So have I haven't seen much of it or anything, but I did note that I saw a couple of people were mentioning that they're like, like, did you get past a point where things change in the game yet? That's a little vague. I feel like I might have because some people were saying that too in my stream. They're like, oh, this is the moment where things kind of gives you there's an idea where like is you in both times you started it. Like some people are marking that they're like,
Starting point is 00:56:41 you liked it and you're having fun with it, but you literally stopped before anything that the shit started happened. Okay. Because well, last time I was three hours in and now I'm six hours in. So I'm assuming it's definitely taking a darker turn. Yes. Yes. Okay. I know the moment where it's like things are like, whoa, what's going on? Cool. Where just your mysterious person appears. Anyway, still really enjoying it. And amidst that tonal shift of like, whoa, what the fuck? It's like you're two friends and you're like, hey, we haven't had a knife fight in a long time. Knife fight and then just dangerous fight. Anyway, so I like again, I'm really enjoying it. Again, how the some people have said the ending is a little I don't
Starting point is 00:57:24 know about the ending though. I'm like, okay, well, we'll see. So I really, really want to finish that. I'm going to try to finish it this this Wednesday on on my Twitch. See if I see if I can get it done before we head out to PAX East. Okay. I also I played about two ish hours of Horizon. I was talking to you about this before is that like, it it's like a functionally and gameplay wise, it's like a great game. It's fucking gorgeous and stuff. But I think amidst playing a bunch of other things, I'm just like, maybe not a bit tired, but just like very samey when it comes to AAA story based character games, where everyone has the uncanny valley face, and they're just kind of talking heads, Mass Effect wheels, and just kind of a very
Starting point is 00:58:18 pedestrian dialogue where no one I like when world building has a lot of their own terms and things and you and you as the player of your don't know what they're talking about yet. And one thing Horizon kind of does is that it has a very, very few of that, at least where I am, where people are just talking like, hey, hey, what's up? We got to fight these machines over here. And that's literally like the dialogue. Like there's no sort of like, like sort of stylized panache in the dialogue where they have all these crazy terms for things and you slowly come to grips with how everything works. And they're like, yeah, we have we have shaman chiefs and that's about it. And and I'm just like, okay, the story just doesn't seem all that interesting to
Starting point is 00:59:06 me now. And up until this, like maybe a few months ago, I was still playing Far Cry Primal, which I like in terms of its dialogue and story, because people are constantly saying weird stuff all the time. But it's very similar in life. It's very similar in the war, the war, the Ubisoft open world. There's hunting spots. There's this, there's towers to climb every single single dot of the map is overwhelming. And I was just playing that. And after playing Horizon for two hours, I went back to Far Cry Primal. And I started playing that more again. Okay, not that like, I think it's worse or better or whatever. I was just like, I didn't finish this and I was enjoying what I was playing. And I never got burnt down the Far Cry games. I skip most
Starting point is 00:59:52 to three. I never played two. And I love four. And I love this. I thought you went through three, four and no, I never had a computer that could play one. I never played all those weird versions of what Far Cry Instincts Predator survival. Okay, you know. So I never played two. I played a bit of three, maybe an hour or two. And then I played a bunch of four, then I'm like trying to complete Primal. And I'm enjoying that. So like, good, just going to Horizon, like, let me go back to what I was doing before. But I might come back to Horizon. So now I know what you're talking about with the like, the like, you know, Mass Effect dialogue stuff and all that, because, but the thing is, is that that's kind of just like the new way to,
Starting point is 01:00:39 I guess, present, like some of these are just like new AAA game standards, you know, like, that's dialogue choices like that. And that type of running around in a large environment, like doing your quests and finding the, and that type of dialogue, especially, is just the new standard now, I think. You're going to be seeing that a lot from now on. That's the thing is that I have seen, I have played like a good amount of games that have that. I was just like, you know, not right now, I feel a little burnt down this, this like, like kind of style of storytelling and character interaction and stuff. No, not to say that the game like is still like the best looking game, I think I own right now. So there's stuff like that
Starting point is 01:01:21 and I like the, sorry, Aloy, not Aloy, Aloy. And I do like her, but like just the world right now aside from the, maybe the best robotic mechanical designs from the West, at least. Okay. Because I'm like, don't you dare shit on, just shit on Yoji. I don't know shit. To be fair, they're really similar to Yoji as well, right? Yeah. Well, we haven't seen them in a painterly loose ink style. So there's only strong points, but I'm just like, yeah, just not now. Because of course, I also didn't want to get burned out on the breath of the wilds, which now that's kind of my absolute focus. Okay. Well, that sounds like you're transitioning into it,
Starting point is 01:02:09 but before that, like, yeah, sure. Yeah. So Horizon, um, you play it or not? I mean, not besides sitting with you guys through that first little bit on for the machine of a video. Um, does a lot of that exhaustion, I guess, you're feeling with some of those things not, is that not counterbalanced with how interesting the setting is? Because the thing that I feel besides the fact that the game is gorgeous and that the character designs and the mechanical designs are really good, like artistically game solid, I feel like if it was just solid art and, um, kind of standard action gameplay, that wouldn't have made it the thing that was like the best selling release of last week. Like I think it's the setting and
Starting point is 01:03:00 the mystery of what the fuck this world is and the fact that like you're taking a different twist on the usual post-apocalyptic results. Yeah, it certainly is. Um, that has a lot of people interested to the point that it outsold Breath of the Wild, obviously also because people have PS4s already, but it fucking is doing gangbusters numbers. Sure. You know, and I feel like that's part of it as well. So did you not find that that sort of setting was like interesting enough to kind of fight the rest of that? The only difference between this and say Far Cry Primal is the fact that it's post-apocalypse. So there's bits of technology and there's robots. Other than that, you're using the almost the exact same weapons. Third person, first person.
Starting point is 01:03:43 Either the first person, third person, you're using the exact same weapons. Graphically, it's very similar. It uses a lot of same tricks, use a lot of same environments, snow, uh, forest, and like, again, it's a lush, large nature, lush, large nature. And, um, it just, it has a lot of similarities to it. And obviously, you know, there's future stuff and, and like the robots are really cool. But if I hadn't played Far Cry Primal and just kind of gotten 50% of a lot of that already, especially with the map stuff, I can only be so interested in the story when the gameplay is so similar where you open up the map. And this will be a difference between why I think this is very different, not very different, but different enough than the, or sorry, Zelda is different
Starting point is 01:04:25 enough. Yeah. Um, so again, if far, if Far Cry had not come out or Horizon to come out at another time, probably would have a lot more like drive to kind of go, yeah, okay, let me check more of this out. And also I also beat enslaved, which is also incredibly similar in that it's post apocalyptic with lush environments and robots. Now enslaved is shit compared to Horizon and by any metric. Like, but it's still a world that I almost kind of felt I've seen if you haven't played enslaved, then that means nothing to you. But I feel like I have seen similar worlds not not done to this amount of like polish and in terms of gameplay and graphics, but it's one of those things that lessens the impact of this world's it's still interesting, but it just lessens the
Starting point is 01:05:15 impact of it doesn't feel as unique to me since I've maybe played a couple more games that share a lot of similarities. I don't know. I could see myself playing Horizon. I'm really, because I'm really excited to like, you know, find out what's up and play through that story. I could see myself ignoring a lot of the side content. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know yet how much you can ignore versus how much you need to do some of that stuff level up and I could see myself be lining the story. And I get and possibly doing the things where you climb the tip for the gorgeous view. But yeah, you know, and same with Far Cry, obviously, which has been, you know, sitting there plus that save my save is on your profile. There's that. It was so confusing when I booted
Starting point is 01:05:57 up Far Cry, I go, where's my safe? Where's my safe? Oh, wait, for whatever reason, I still don't remember why I saved on your profile on my machine. So I have to like, walk into yours. There's no shortage of shit to play though. So what is key is bringing you over to Breath of the Wild primarily then? What do you think so far? There's there's this horizon and Far Cry, whatever, have this very busy attitude when you open up things and you just see it like if you could, like if you have time later, like boot up like an image Google search of like Far Cry, Primal Map, and you just see that there's no bit of terrain on the map that is not marked with a activity or event or collectible or whatever. And it's, it's, I think, to this point, it may
Starting point is 01:06:50 be overkill in terms of like. But is that stuff enjoyable though? Because if I'm playing through Horizon and then like I'm saying, I'm planning to be on it, but then I, you know, I do one or I talk to someone and it's like, here's a side mission, but it's like, oh, that's pretty cool, that I'm going to get distracted and do it. Most of these both in Horizon and Far Cry is like most of these are like incidental nothings. Okay. And you have to search for that, that good side mission or that good activity. There's so much of the small shitty stuff that like levels up one, one bit of your pouch, because you strapped a deer penis to it or whatever it is. You know, like I can be honeydicked into a good side mission.
Starting point is 01:07:30 Yeah, I can too. The difference with Breath of the Wild is that it's much more of, like to me right now, like it's much more vast and open and things are paced better where you have these nice scenic like stretches of like, that's kind of interesting. Who's over there? There's an NPC just walking on the thing and then you're just kind of going, then you get to like a large village. Far Cry Primal and doesn't really have like villages per se. It has your home village and that's basically it. And then everything is enemy territory. You have to fill out the map. You have to expand your one place, whereas like Breath of the Wild's map or just Zelda maps in general have lots of friendly places you can hang out, do things with. And there's a certain like
Starting point is 01:08:18 serene, like sort of like like tone, maybe it's a lot of the graphics, the musical, whatever. But I just feel compelled to just go over there and see what's up. If I open up the map, map doesn't tell me shit. Even if I go up to like the kind of pseudo towers that there are in Breath of the Wild, it fills out the map in topographical detail, but doesn't say here's a hunting mission, here's whatever. So here's whatever. It's more up to you to find these things and find what's interesting. So that's what I was going to I was going to ask if even though, you know, obviously a lot of what we've seen of this and the way it's been pushed has been like, you know, do your thing, go fun, go, go, go nuts, have fun, run anywhere, do anything.
Starting point is 01:09:00 Is there like an implied like that's location has a God Ray on it type thing where it's like, is there an implied direction that the game wants you to go in? Or is it really just if you can walk in any direction right now? If you follow the main little quest hints, then yes. But if you don't, you can go anywhere. Like, you know, like, I'm assuming like you start, I'm assuming like, you know, you I'm assuming the game starts, then you get into an area where you look over off a cliff. And then when you look off a cliff, and you see the big open world shot, which you have to do with every three footage we watched, it's exactly that you start on the little shrine of resurrection, you get out, like to me, that's where the game starts. And like,
Starting point is 01:09:45 I've seen some people I'm not sure exactly what point they're referencing from our what to our weapon. They're like, Oh, man, that long tutorial boring area. And I was like, you mean when you're in the shrine and you get out? Because that was the long tutorial boring area to me. As soon as I left, and it said explore the entire plateau and do whatever I didn't, I forgot that like it was like, yeah, we might want to head over here. I forgot about that. I thought I was heading in the right direction. I went to completely different place. And I got stuff out of order. Okay, but you do see and know where the game wants you to go once you get one item. And you talk to that that old man character that you've seen like in the very early beginnings that just
Starting point is 01:10:26 says, Hey, what's up? He gives you a bit of a plot dump. And from that point on, you have one mission objective, one main mission. And it says, go here. And if you want, you have everything you can, all you need is a little paraglider. That's the one kind of item that gets you around a lot of shit. It's you can just like Nintendo said, you can try to defeat the final enemy right off the bat, you probably won't. I don't think that if it's possible, they said you can attempt. But I believe you know, your speed runners or whoever might be good enough, might be able to do it. Because since there's no, at least to my knowledge, at least now, there's no definitive weapon. Everything breaks. Everything has their finite life that maybe you don't need. I don't know yet.
Starting point is 01:11:13 Maybe you don't need a definitive weapon or item, whatever to defeat the final boss. But this is like after hour one, basically, it says, here's your mission objective for the rest of the game. And go around the rest of the map power up as much as you want for this final encounter. Does it at all feel like Skyrim or? Yeah, it feel I'd say there's a certain feeling of Skyrim in there. Yeah, I think so. Where when you walk to villages, side quests will activate if you talk to certain people. Like I today I found a guy that's like, Oh, I wish this girl in the end would like me. And then it'll say a side mission. And then you go into your adventure log and I'll say like, you can do this. And here's a hint about how to me want to go about that. And you talk to
Starting point is 01:12:05 a you talk to the girl, you find out some stuff. Usually this stuff in Zelda, you know, let's go back to, let's say Skyward Sword, where you're in the Skyloft village. And you have these little interactions between all the characters, whereas someone's like, Oh, I like that person, or that guy stole something from me or whatever. That was stuff you had to remember in your head. Okay, about where that was or who that was. Now it's at least in your log. So if you want to come back to it, you will remember where this was. And it gets put there. If you never talk to that character, you never get that. And you can ignore all this shit. Okay, because I guess like one thing that I was wondering about when we were watching trailers and streams and such was like,
Starting point is 01:12:43 is this going to be like, or is it going to feel like Nintendo is catching up to what the rest of the world has been doing in their games and then trying it out poorly? You know, or is it actually going to be like, I think it's pretty fresh and well done. I think that that that thing I said before about pacing about making this map feel more meaningful with bigger stuff spread out like, like balanced wise, rather than have 5000 pins of of interest and just being like, get get the shit away. I mean, you can not do some of that stuff. But there's a certain elegance of this is how we're kind of designing the map by default. Go over here, go over here. I mean, like, you know what, I'm honestly going to talk about the game all day. If you just really quickly,
Starting point is 01:13:28 best combat in a Zelda by far amazing, hard. I've died in the Zelda more than the last three Zeldas combined. How about that? It's super fucking hard. Okay. But when you die, the penalty is not bad. The game is constantly saving whenever you do anything. I guess the only other question I was going to ask you was, did you have any moments like that ridiculous jump off the horse over a shoot up the fire? I just got I just got the horse. By the way, horse stuff is awesome and that you don't have one specific horse. You can train many horses and level up their social links with how much the horse trusts you. I get horse doesn't trust you. He will not obey you. Oh boy. So you have to constantly bond with the horse, tap them, soothe them when they do the right thing,
Starting point is 01:14:17 and don't praise them if they do the wrong thing. Okay. And you level up your horses and you have a stable of your stable of your horses. You're like this one today, schmuckers. Let's go. We got the S link going. Yeah. And when that horse has leveled up, the horse starts controlling better. The horses. Oh, really? You have to start. That's pretty. They won't listen to you. I heard that opponent is locked behind an amiibo. Is she? I think she might. I heard you can get a Pona if you get the right amiibo. Yeah. Okay. Well, I'm going to get the right amiibo then. Yeah. There you go. But have you had any like combat moments? Yes, some. Okay. That I was just on a cliff and I had just gone a guardian sword, which is, you know, the blue energy we've seen
Starting point is 01:15:00 on weapons? Yes. Like arrows. I got a guardian sword, which I jumped off and then I just did a downward strike and the Bogoblin or whatever Pope Pope Pope Copeland looked up and saw me, then we clashed midair. Oh, nice. Nice. And I was able to do the flurry stuff. I just unlocked that. Remember when we saw it first, it said flurry rush. And we went, oh, shit. And it's when Link starts slashing like, like a fucking Jojo character. Not really. When we watched like an E3 thing like years ago, it happened. Does it like exhaust an invisible stamina bar? No, it's just really hard to do. Okay. Because you have to dodge at the last second. There's also perfect parries. Parries. But like, they have to be perfect. Like, it's, it's the, it's the best combat,
Starting point is 01:15:44 like I said, in any is all the game and just cut scenes, just voice acting. I really like the voice acting. Just, you know, the one part I actually was like, this isn't great. There's one moment where when you go into the trials, which are the little mini dungeons, there's 100 of them or whatever, and you go into to get like, it levels you up in some way, gives you a new item, whatever it is. The one that uses the gyro to control a maze that has a ball in it. You have so much control and the gyro is so fluid that they went overboard with every single thing you do. Like it should have been more restricted where I cannot control the ball because it's, it's detecting the rotation. It's detecting this. And I was struggling to do it right. The only way
Starting point is 01:16:36 I was able to get is like this ball drops into the this maze. And then you just move it to where you need it to go. And then you stop doing that and you get the ball on the other end and bring it back and you solve the puzzle and you get the item. So when the ball drops, and if you've dropped the your original ball off the edge of the maze, a new one comes to replace it, the way I was able to do it very quickly is that before the ball dropped, I angled my, my switch to be like this. So then it dropped on the side, the screen towards yes, it dropped on the side, pinked off the thing and went right where it needed to go. And I, I skipped the maze. You gamed it. Okay. I gamed it. And that was the one that's the one thing where I was like, this does
Starting point is 01:17:16 not control optimally. I don't know what they're going for. I feel like this should have been tested a bit, but that was like one moment out of the seven hours I've played. I only got the game on Saturday. Okay. So I like it's funny because like with the step up in combat that a couple of different games have, you know, and then we're seeing such amazing, like improvements with Neo and these things and we got to whatnot. I feel like what the timing of this is, it's really cool. But at the same time, it's like the bar is now raised. Yeah, because like Neo and for honor are fucking lifting that combat bar up, you know, to a new standard to people or for honor, though, is that it's restrictive within its own system,
Starting point is 01:18:02 its own really good system. You can only fight one way. Basically, you know what I mean? But you know what I mean? There's a rule set. There's a rule set, but Nio's in particular is a mandala. Sorry, sorry. I was more more like thinking for honor. The opposite of restrictive. Yeah, no, no, sorry. I was more thinking of for honor. I only played like an hour of Neo. So I'm thinking more for honor. But yeah, let's let's take away Neo out of the equation. Okay, is more akin to Neo where what you need armor, you need your stats, you need these weapons, these weapons are good against these enemies. If you want to boost your stats, cook this meal that boost your attack damage, there's so many variables in this Zelda combat than any other.
Starting point is 01:18:51 Yes, it is more akin to Neo or a Souls game, I find. Okay, much faster. Okay. And much and just as hard because there's one when the goblins come out, the there's red and blue, blues kill you in one hit at the start until you level up your hearts. By the way, in case you didn't know, you can't get hearts anymore. Kill a boss, get hearts. Nope. Oh, wait, I haven't killed the boss yet. I haven't found the boss yet. So but you can't slash open anything in hearts. That's not the way the game works anymore. The only way you can get hearts or the right now, the only way I know you can get hearts. So you have to go to one of the shrines and you redeem for hearts or stamina. So you have to either boost your stamina or your health. That's the only way you can't just replenish.
Starting point is 01:19:37 That's how you get a new heart. Sorry. To refill an old heart, you have to eat. You can't just find hearts lying around inside anything anymore. Okay. That's why the game's so hard because I'm shoving apples into my fucking mouth trying to beat also. But at the end of the day, it is a Zelda game and they're not going to like make the average player suffer. You know what I mean? Like I'm suffering a little. They're not going to like like they're going to let kids beat the game because it's a Zelda game. So it's real rough because there's no easy mode. The hard mode's coming as the DLC. And I'm like, like I said, the penalty for dying is not bad. Okay. Okay. And really quickly, also on my switch, I played Shovel Knight Spectre Knight, which is amazing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:23 That's exclusive to the switch for I think a month or two. Spectre of Spectre of Torment. It's amazing. You would really like it because you're kind of very sort of Devil May Cry-ish. And that Spectre Knight, when he gets close to an enemy, locks on automatically so that if you press any attack button, he dives in with his scythe at an angle and you bounce off things. You feel like you're controlling zero with the Z Saber. Okay. A little bit. I played the first prologue level. It's real, real good. I skipped Plague Knight, the Plague Knight campaign. Yeah. But I have that. The Shovel Knight Treasure Trove is the game that's on the switch that has all three things. What a package they're building, man. It has three single player campaigns.
Starting point is 01:21:05 Like it's crazy. Incredible. Incredible. And Fast Racing Remix is really amazing. It's better than the Wii U version. On handheld mode, it just looks amazing. And when Liam came over and we streamed last time, we played a bunch of the multiplayer stuff. We played Wacka Wacka 7. The premiere fighting game for the Switch. The premiere for the Nintendo Switch. We played Wacka Wacka 7. It has maybe potentially a weird emulation issue where sound effects come out a half second too late, stuff like that. We weren't sure if it was the Switch version, if it was the arcade archive version, or if it was just like a bug. We're not really sure. And the MVP on the Switch lineup is Snipper Clips. Play Snipper Clips with Liam if you have a Switch or are
Starting point is 01:21:50 looking forward to getting one. I hardly recommend downloading Snipper Clips. It's a co-op sort of multiplayer party game sort of where you're two little shapes and you can clip each other. You can snip bits of each other if you overlap. If you have your characters cross over. Yeah. And then you have to finagle yourself into shapes to solve these puzzle rooms. Some have light platforming, some don't. And the facial expressions on the Snipper Clip crew are hilarious. The other areas. I haven't looked in a while. Anyway. That's great. It was really, really fun. I'm showing Matt some stupid shit about the topics we've been discussing. Yeah, you got to put that in there. Go ahead. So that was that. I had a blast plan. That was like the
Starting point is 01:22:41 multiplayer game of the night where I was like, yeah, I heard this is pretty good. But I was like, no, this is this is actually a fantastic idea for a game. I hope they'll release more like DLC or something. Awesome. You're getting a Switch this week. Yeah. I'm getting my Switch hopefully on Tuesday. Any games on the way? Digital, you know, no big deal. Here's a copy of Zelda for you. What? Thank you, man. Seriously? Because Liam got me mine because mine came too late. This is my original. Liam bought me one to give me on Saturday. This is my extra. Thanks, man. Awesome. Wow. I love how the screen thing. We discussed this a little bit earlier, but the fact that the art is the entire box is super cool. And there's just a little Switch logo in the corner and the rest of
Starting point is 01:23:34 it is just game. That's really cool. Thank you, man. No problem. Really appreciate it. Like I said, extra copy. And what's neat is when you put them, when you put the game cards in, they don't install because they're basically cartridges. Yeah. Yeah, yes. Open it up because there's more artwork. Well, no, because I was basically like, I mentioned it on the previous podcasts, but like, I'm not, well, first of all, I don't have like that thing where I need the new gadget immediately. Like, I'm OK if I don't get it right away because like, I feel like I'm so strapped for time on the regular anyway that it's fine. Yeah, no, I know. I know. So I am excited to play the new things, but at the same time, I still have things I want to get through. So I have no problem with that.
Starting point is 01:24:15 Scrunchy plastic. Now, now, I guess, wow, this is a beautiful box. This brings us to... I did it. I did it on my screen. We have to do this. No, I did it already. It's time to lick the Zelda Breath of the Wild cartridge. Look the sticker. It's the sticker? Well, that's the safest place to lick so you don't lick like a weird connector or whatever. What's the part of it that's super gross that they put all the stuff on it? Liam said to me, and I did it, he said, just lick the sticker. OK, because I heard, right? And so the internet has been talking about the fact that they do this thing now or they coat it to make it really nasty so that kids and animals don't eat your cartridges. So have you, did you do it? Yeah, it's less gross than those sodas Max
Starting point is 01:25:05 made of string. Were you OK? I was OK. It's going to linger for like five minutes, this taste. But it's not the back. It's not the actual plastic. It's the sticker. Liam told me to lick the sticker. He had done it as well. All right, here we go, live. It's kind of hacky, I'm sure everyone's doing this. Everyone's done it, but people would be pissed if he didn't. Yeah. Yeah, that's really that's the earwax. Yeah, that's really chemically and it has a sting to it. That's OK. Like I think that's not going anywhere. Nintendo could have gone around this having not to do this by just putting a little like bit of text on the back of the cart that said,
Starting point is 01:25:48 just fuck you. I didn't even swallow and it's already at the back of my throat. Yeah, it gets there. Yeah, OK, I get it. It snicks its way there. The other thing that you could do if you want is hold this. Thank you. This is. That's mine, Bill. I'm not giving that to you. No, I get it. I get it. I get it. This is the pro controller and Liam asking my opinion. I have an opinion, but I wanted to see what you think about it so far. OK, so yeah, that's the thing is like I haven't touched anything so it's related and whatnot. I've tasted. Yeah, you've tasted things, though. This is what a weird new thing. Yeah, this is a lot like the last pro controller. They're keeping the same thick grips on it. So I do like that. Liam made this comparison. He's
Starting point is 01:26:33 like it's more like the pro controller than the Wii U, where this is a lot chunkier and a bit heavier than you. I can see very light comparatively. I can see that. And the buttons are like it's very chunks. Yeah, super chunk. The buttons are a bit not bigger, but they're sticking out a bit more than I would like. Yeah, the sticks are the same sticks we're used to. And this D pad is this, you know, it's the D pad. It's new Nintendo's new D pad standard, which is fine. You know, I do like the rubbery feel of everything. This is fine. I'll be able to do this. Use no problem. I especially like the fact that the ZL and ZR are little, little triggers and not those massive, stupid, like indent dreamcast triggers. I mean, I'm sure, I don't know. I feel
Starting point is 01:27:26 like the feeling of pulling a gun trigger is cool for some folks, but I'm sure like functionally, you just want to get to the function right away. I tend to agree. Unless you need a degree of like analog to it, where you have like you're revving the gas more and more and more as the harder you push. For the most part, I just keep my pro controller switches up so that it presses the input right away. Yeah, for me, for me, I prefer the Wii U pro. I think it I like how it's lighter, and it's more like a 360 sort of like shape. This is fine. It's good. But like, I kind of prefer the Wii U is pro. Yeah, I mean, but I think all three of those controllers are like within 0.0 to 0.5 of difference in quality. Yeah, you know what I mean? These are all super functional and are
Starting point is 01:28:11 going to work. And I see myself using this the majority of the time, for sure. So yeah, you want to grab that real quick? And if you don't mind, thank you. I would love to try the actual switch itself out. Yeah, I can see that. Just making sure. Okay, so I guess I'm the last person right now that hasn't gotten my hands on it. So the controller is exactly what I wanted it to be. That's super cool. Thank you. It is not the steam controller. Yeah. And then the switch itself. Okay. All right. Immediately, I prefer the pro controller sticks to the sticks on this. They are tiny. I don't want to press buttons in case stuff starts happening. Not sure if it will. I'm really not a fan of the fact that my fingers, my index fingers are
Starting point is 01:29:04 resting on both L and R and ZR and ZL at the same time. I don't like that. I've got big fingers and like literally I'm going to move them as far forward as I can. And yeah, that feels a little bit less a little awkward. The natural resting position right now, I'm touching both, you know, so I can access I can accidentally see myself hitting these buttons. That's not great. I have like thin like girl fingers thin girl fingers. Yeah, no, I'm touching both right away. I wish a D pad was down here. I understand why it isn't, but I wish it was down here. It's not there. And at first I was like eh, but so far games I play like I played Shovel Knight with that as a D pad and it works. Well, it's awkward. Honestly, it's where it's the diagonals
Starting point is 01:29:47 that are going to make the difference to me. Yeah, I haven't I haven't played anything that required like like actually required diagonal thing, but I imagine if there's something that doesn't might not work out doing a super in Street Fighter two, but then again, you wouldn't be using that or playing Street Fighter two. No, no, no, that's exactly it is like I I can see the diagonals being a problem for me here. Yeah, I mean, though the face buttons are these face buttons on this side are fine. They remind me a lot of the 3ds. Yeah, on the XYBA you know, L three and R three are fine as well. These both of these sticks are like the flimsy type sticks as opposed to the more sturdy ones. So yeah, I get it. It's a portable.
Starting point is 01:30:30 You can't really go too far all in with it. And I guess let me just pull the joy cons off. There's there's sorry there on the back. There's two little like lock circles. Yeah, you hold those down and then you slide it off. Okay, so let's see here. I'm going to slide one off. So slide the other off playing with those reminds me of my favorite feature of the Wii, which was lazy poses while you play. Now you said you already have like a like, yeah, your your fingers are resting a thing for me when I was playing where I can like be literally any pose on the couch and just know where my buttons are and shit. That is nice. I love that because when you're when you're only into traditional control, you're locked in almost
Starting point is 01:31:14 yeah. And that's just like my favorite underrated feature that I'm just like I like being sitting sideways you're playing right now got hanging over the couch and just like using your remote and then check right and even then that was tethered at least. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can definitely yeah, I can see that being fine. Now when I make this controller on its own though and I turn the joy cons sideways, I played about two games like that. Oh boy, I played waku waku like that and it did work. Oh boy. Oh boy, this is not comfortable at all. These are shoulder buttons inside here SL and SR. Yeah, they're meant to be for gameplay. Yeah, I can barely touch them. This fucking sucks. This is really, really uncomfortable for me right now. Let me switch
Starting point is 01:32:02 the player one side or player two side I should say where the stick is a bit further in. Uh, this is even worse. That's how you play snipper clips, by the way, because the those shoulder buttons rotate your character and the other buttons do other stuff. Okay, so when you have the shoulder button on on the second player side, right of the joycon, you have the shoulder buttons close to the edge where the XYB are right, you're holding this sideways. Do these still have functions in gameplay? I guess it depends on the game. I haven't tested because if they do, that would be insane. I can't imagine they do because the natural resting state right now, the only thing I played in this style with snipper clips and there was no issues. I wasn't
Starting point is 01:32:47 doing stuff. It wasn't I don't, I don't, you know, because the natural resting state right now for the second player where like I'm reaching in on the stick, which is in the middle and then the buttons over here on the side is one where my right hand is crushing both shoulder buttons. I mean, not hard, but like it's they're absolutely pressed right now for me to hold this normally. And then when I do it with the player one side, I don't have to do that because that you're the stick is a bit it's positioned outward and like the pressure is not as much coming from my left hand. Sure. So I really hope that they don't have games that require that because I can definitely say that both of these the shoulder buttons are no good for me. These joy cons are not cutting it.
Starting point is 01:33:34 I'm going to play absolutely everything I can with that pro controller. Like I'm super I've had no issues, but then again, I have smaller hands than you. So I've had absolutely no issues. So I guess it varies on, you know, your your physical prowess. Yeah. But yeah, I guess that's why they made so many control so many options separately though. No, I was going to say separately one in each hand and like kind of turn sideways where I'm not expected to press these tiny little shoulder buttons or these tiny little SR and SL like it's not as bad. I can kind of find a way to hold it. When I had both, all I thought of is like no more heroes. How would I? Yeah. Yeah. And I was like, okay, that's fine for me. So the most comfortable way for me to play
Starting point is 01:34:20 a game I think with it right now is like with the joycon separated one in each hand. But oh, if you can play arms with the pro controller, but for those you have to hold them forward like they're triggers like this and go like that. Or you can use a second stick to aim or you can use a second which is going to be the way I play that. Yeah. Screen looks screen. Finally. Yeah. Like a god damn like next gen screen. Yeah. And not like one of Nintendo's usual screens. The majority of what I've played has been in handheld mode on that screen. And I like I think it's great. Like it finally this looks really crisp. Is this a touchscreen in the end? Yes. It is a touchscreen in the end. Okay. I didn't get the update on when when that was announced. The thing that,
Starting point is 01:35:04 you know, when you get yours though is that when you do boot this up and you just do everything, like it embarrasses the Wii U and how clunky and slow it was. Okay. Like everything here. I downloaded games in like five minutes. Everything snappy. Everything's fast. It just that was like one of the things where I'm like, Oh, God, the Wii U. We still pushing me's. Yes. But way more options this time. I you can make them go do Jojo poses now, dude. All right. But if you don't want to me, they have a selection of like every Nintendo characters portrait. You can get you can get varieties of Samus. Great. You can get all you get Star Wolf. Great. So because I still stand by like the idea that I don't I don't know why no console has done this. But we have me's we have
Starting point is 01:35:48 avatars and whatever. I'm like, fuck that. We don't really have avatars anymore. No, but I mean, like, why do all of that where it's like, Hey, it's your little character that is the guide to your your console. Yeah, just make that a character from a game you like, and let you pick from all these different things. Yeah, where I'm like, Yeah, you know what, Nathan Drake, you can guide me around my PlayStation. So depending on what you select for your portrait, either a mirror or whatever, when you go into the e shop, it'll say, Hey, who's coming into the e shop? Who's that? Who that? Yeah, and I'll have a selection of everyone. So if you make your thing Samus and call your name, nickname Samus, it's Samus. Yeah, but you know what I mean? Like, I mean,
Starting point is 01:36:27 like, actually and officially, a little Samus that flies around in her ship and jumps out. And then she's like, do you hear the cry of the baby? Well, I was never to be funny. And then that would be the only Samus we get on this entire console. Also, you can, you can change the the UI color of everything to be like black or white. So they have a clean white like weish thing. And then you have like the night mode of like websites, which is cool. And I really hope they'll have a 3ds style themes where we can get a nice background and music. I really want to be able to have my snake eater 3ds. Yeah, yeah, that'd be a bit of you paid for my paid good money for that. I did. I did. I paid three is 395. All right. So so yeah,
Starting point is 01:37:10 lots of video games, but absolutely loving Zelda loving life right now. You know, so not loving my tongue. However, still, yeah, it's about to go away. Okay, but it's going to definitely affect the next thing that I eat here. Let me just get my energy drink. I your wax monster. Yep, that definitely affects the taste. Well, tell you what, man, your baby's not going to eat that. Nope. Good job, guys. Let's get into the news. Alrighty. So I mean, right off the bat, obviously, what we like to say since we're talking switch and we're tasting switch spider side. We might as well talk about now. Spider side official themed switch console coming soon with the blue and the red and then the stupid spider side face in the middle. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:04 No, no, no, no, no. I was going to talk about the fact that there's a couple of weird things with the switch. And one of the things is the fact that they don't want you to apply any vinyl skins to it or anything like that. For whatever reason. And if you were going to, it can and will ruin your switch by like peeling off some of the the prints on it. Like it seems like they're actually sort of doing a, I don't know, like for whatever reason, it was really it seems like it was kind of cheaply applied covering that like anyone that had a business that was based on putting skulls and money on your consoles. Now, I've not known a single person in my life that does this. I assume there is. Hello. Are we just going to sit on our friend?
Starting point is 01:38:53 Are we just going to sit on airy? Yes, the man who's built a business. I don't know. He stole Xbox. I don't know him. I met him. Okay. Those dogs got to eat, man. He's got to. I suppose so. I hope. But I know there's there's companies that like, you know, they get their little stickers that they sell to cover up with custom themes and decals. And unfortunately, the spider side, the spider side skin has been canceled will ruin your switch if you stick it on and whatnot. You can't peel them off without doing some damage to the surface of the switch. So careful with that. It sucks. But oh, well, you're going to have to wait for the official colors for you five people that love this thing due to your consoles. Like if it's
Starting point is 01:39:40 nice enough, if Liam doesn't do that to one of his vetoes, then like no one does it. Right? Sure. I remember where Billy and I we like I had a white DSI and he had a black DSI and we swapped and pieces and created like Icaruga, almost black and white mixed. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Because we were because we were back when we were opening up our shit anyway and whatnot. We voided our warranty. So we're like, fuck it. Give me your faceplate. Give me your bottom plate. You know, and we switched it up and you can you can kind of have fun with that. Friendships were bonded. Yeah. Well, up to DS parts. Exactly. It's like it's like the dragon fucking medallions. So yeah, that's a little bit of a service announcement. The other thing that is happening
Starting point is 01:40:26 that this is this is a little beyond absurd, because I don't I don't get how Nintendo can be again, entering this new age with new bright screens and such. And and and and like the first thing they do is they respond to people complaining about dead pixels by saying, yeah, that's normal for the tech and too bad. So obviously, you buy a new well, there's dead pixels and then there's dead pixels. Yeah, you buy a new screen, a new a new you buy a new a new Vita, you buy a new PSP anything that has had a decent like looking portable screen for the last 10 years or so had a chance of having a dead pixel on it. And that happens, right? But it's an understood part of like, you know, like the technology and and how it how it works and how it's built.
Starting point is 01:41:21 And when that happens, you go, all right, well, just let me go replace this. And Nintendo's response is straight up like, no, no, that's normal. But we're not going to exchange those. But do you exchange with Nintendo? Do you exchange it with the I never understood this to change with the store you bought it at? So that's the thing is I likely you can still walk into the store and get get it done. But like if you hope to, I guess, send it send it to Nintendo, which I'm assuming lots of people think that they have to do maybe in many cases, you probably would. I mean, like Amazon has, you know, a decent coverage service. Yeah, I guess it just depends where you buy it by if you kind of if you bought it on mom and pops, they're like, we're not going
Starting point is 01:42:01 to do that. We don't are certain on Nintendo. And that's yeah, because I had to have my my like a couple of things. I've had my my Game Boy repaired by sending it to Nintendo and getting it fixed and sent back. But it's it's kind of nuts that you're going to, you know, start out your journey into like what we consider now normal, like getting a VR machine that doesn't work. Exactly. And going like, no, that's expected. And yeah, yeah, too bad deal with it. So I see I see or this is this is Nintendo's UK support. And one thing I've kind of noticed with companies that have a UK branch is that the UK branch literally knows nothing. And then they'll they'll say something. And then they'll be correct, hopefully, in this case, especially,
Starting point is 01:42:49 be corrected and that like, no, you idiots, we know you're the European branch, we give you no information to work with. But like I like not Nintendo specifically, but I've seen this happen where a UK thing will say something and people go, that's ridiculous. And then like the main arm of whatever said company will be like, don't listen to them. They don't know what they're saying. So I'm interested to see if that changes at all, or if that's like a de facto Nintendo stand. Sometimes there are flies in soup. It's a characteristic of anything we are making. It's one of soups. We make a lot of soup at a time. It's a really big, you know, a cold drink. Yeah. And then flies are tiny, they can drop in there. So it's a feature, it happens. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:33 One in 100 people getting fed will get that fly. And, you know, just get used to that. This is an excellent comparison for people that don't realize this is very good. Get used to that fly. Yeah. He's sticking around. We can't make it not happen. Yeah. We can't avoid the flies getting in the soup. You're just going to have to drink it. That's pretty good. Anyway, like, it's so weird because the statement is like, it's completely understandable. It's just like their whole thing where it's like, it's normal. It happens. LCD screens have this as an issue. It's like, yeah, no, you're all like everything about what Nintendo says is completely right. And then at the end of the sentence should be if this occurs to let us know that's the that's the only thing. It's like,
Starting point is 01:44:20 yeah, you're right. You can send it to Nintendo for repairs. And that's it. Just I suppose like, I don't know, depending if you make a big enough think about it, it's like maybe someone like, I don't know if this is like a fucking stance or it's like that guy that wrote that press release is like, I'm not going to fix it. Just sip around the fly. Yeah. Oh, no, it's wing broke off. God, we went to Nassau and we went to like the place in Atlantis. And they had like a little like a snack hut. And I got like a drink and I look inside and there's a dead bumblebee inside. Yeah, I'm like, hmm, is this a feature of the Atlantis water park? They didn't have an answer for me. Anyway, you know, and you know, there's a couple, it's like we we're not done yet because there's
Starting point is 01:45:04 other silly things going on right now. I mean, the other bit is, you know, we got the confirmation that you cannot transfer back up Nintendo Switch. I'm really confused by this. I am too. It's not hard because we have an account system now. It's not hard, but it's the most portable system in the world. Just bring your console to your friend's house. Or am I missing what this is? Broken console. What is what? Broken console. We mean broken console. I need my console bricks. I need to I need to I need to replace it. Yeah. This is about you can't transfer back on Nintendo Switch to other people's things like sorry, explain save data cannot be copied, backed up,
Starting point is 01:45:52 or written to a micro SD. So make sure you're playing on your own console. Okay, so we were saying if your console explodes, you cannot transfer your saves by any means. You your account will own the games, right? Yeah, whatever you purchased is tied to your account. So the saves you create are not there's cloud the not not that they're not there. Switch supports cloud saves. Or it doesn't it doesn't yet, but it's supposed to I read I read somewhere it supports clouds. It doesn't support clouds. Have you have you seen that in your experience? No, no, I haven't, but I read someone likes the Nintendo confirms cloud saves are coming. Is that not true? I don't know. I don't know, man. All I can tell you all I can say is based on the reports that are coming
Starting point is 01:46:40 and from this story. Yeah, it doesn't mention it. You can read this story. Yeah, and like you can you can you can access your games from another console by deactivating the current system. Okay, by basically making your account associated with the new one. But that gives you your games back. You do not save. It's weird because the Wii was the most trans transferable saves transferring than any console I've ever seen. It was so easy to move around your saves. The only time you couldn't is if the game had like an online competitive mode and they didn't want you hacking it. So I'm curious to see if this is actually like what it sounds like because it seems absurd to me. It seems absurd if they have an
Starting point is 01:47:22 account system for like, oh, if you lose your thing or whatever, you get your games back. Oh, that's cool. But I can't get my saves back. I'd rather keep my saves and lose my game. I because that's a time thing versus a money thing. If I'm 50 hours in a Zelda, I don't I'd rather just buy Zelda again. How am I save? If I'm and the well, I got to say that like if you're paying for an online service, absolutely. Maybe that's what it is. Maybe that's only maybe that's only well, it's not paid yet. It's only paid in the fall. Yeah, if it comes out in the fall and you have to pay and you don't have a way to save, that's where that's bullshit. I mean, it's bullshit kind of now. But like
Starting point is 01:48:06 when you start paying for it, I mean, that's absolutely something should be there. I swear, I saw someone tell me that like, oh, yeah, they confirm that there is supposed to be cloud saves. But I don't I don't know details. So I don't know. I guess I just all bullshit. Okay. I mean, it's bad news. Yeah, I just hope that like, again, I hope that it's not as ridiculous as it seems in that something super basic cannot be done on like a new console like this, because we are clearly at a point where there's like standards where of like, you have an account, you have your purchases, you have your, like shit happens where you would need to recreate the exact same circumstances of your current setup on a new console.
Starting point is 01:48:50 See, right there, the part that says save that it cannot be copied, backed up or written to microSD, you know what, fine, but then have cloud saves. That's it. Yeah, you don't have to have both, but you gotta have one. And then the last bit alongside this stuff was the fact that, of course, you know, friend codes did come back and my ass got blown out, because I thought they were dead forever. I will say there is a silver lining on this story, however, because because like the first thing that was like, why friend codes are bad guys, fuck everything. And I was like, Oh, God, damn it. Right. But Nintendo did just come out and explain that they're going to, it's not ready yet. But in the future, you'll be able to just send friend requests using your
Starting point is 01:49:38 Nintendo ID, you can use Twitter or Facebook to send for to add friends as well. Right now, you can add and they're adding a bunch of different ways via your Nintendo account. Right now, you can add people in a few different ways, but not those specific ones. But like when you, well, because I added, you know, a person or two. So when I booted up, it's like, yeah, you can add people this way. But yeah, the actual main mode right now is a fucking friend code. Okay. Yeah, I, it's nice that that is not, it's not what I thought when the news first came out, where it's like, Nope, friend codes are back. And that's that. It's good to see that. Because it makes no sense because a 3ds didn't need that after a while. They got rid of only
Starting point is 01:50:19 friend codes with 3ds. So why would they go back? So, you know, my initial take was going to be again, Nintendo, what the fuck? But now it's just like, you like friend codes. Well, just I love, I love a good friend code. We're going to have to just wait for that to come out. And it should have been, I hope I should have been ready, but I was talking to Liam about this is like, I think with all these things that are kind of not there, they should have like targeted like internally, hey, let's release it in March. But actually been like, if we don't have everything ready, let's delay until I was saying to Liam is like, what do you think about this? September, you have Zelda come out in September, then you have Mario Odyssey come out in like
Starting point is 01:51:02 November, December, whatever it is. And I was like, and have all these features there. And when Liam was like, yeah, no, that would have been fine. Certainly. But you know, I bit those investors. Well, March, Nintendo spoke to Capcom and Capcom was like, hey, we got some advice for you on how to put out your game, put your release. Yeah, you know, anyway, look, the only way I accept we've I think we've been over this before at least once where it's just like, like, look, everyone hates the friend codes. They know it. They use this as a temporary fix, I suppose. But at the very least, you could have put out enemy codes as well.
Starting point is 01:51:42 Why would you not just save the whole thing? Has this been brought up before? I haven't heard this term. I feel I feel like we've discussed it at some point. But I have not heard this term. Enemy codes. Put in your enemy codes, God damn it. Then friend codes are fine because they're if you add an enemy code, you cannot play with that person. But what you can do is that if you see they are online, no matter what game it is, there'll be a system that will allow you to place bombs within their game. You cannot play with the person, but you will always play against the person. Yeah, remember that tingle, that tingle game where you can drop bombs like it was an extra mode and like when we're disturbed their shit, I want like I want to add woolly as a
Starting point is 01:52:27 friend and as an enemy. Just drop bombs. It can only be one, man. It's an invasion, but it's on the system level. Yes, it's on the UI level where you're like you're in your hut and you're like, I just want to boot Breath of the Wild and it's like, nah, I moved it over there, fucker. Or I see woollies in the eShop buying a game and I'm like, nah, and I drain the money from your account with a button. We're like enemy. I temporarily disabled that game. I took it off the shelf before you could buy it. Okay, you have one action against your enemy per day. Per day. And you have like a Rolodex, a move. Absolutely. That you can do. And you fucking interrupt that shit. Rival codes, man. I think Woollie needs to take a 15 minute break right now
Starting point is 01:53:16 and I just locked down this. Temporary parental controls. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Strong. I haven't, if you've talked about this concept before, we just, I wasn't around at least, but I've heard any codes. I know it was a joke at some point prior, but it's like, that's how you save it, man. Fuck it. I would absolutely take friend codes if enemy codes were there and this, this glorious new system. And again, you try to play anything that's remotely multiplayer and it just immediately forces you guys to fight. There's already games like this, but they give you rewards, it's daily rewards in games, right? Oh, yeah. And there should be daily penalties. Like that's what it should be. This is strong. And every time you crush your enemy,
Starting point is 01:54:03 you gain another one. Oh, like you beat him? Why haven't you, why haven't you? You can do it once per day, but it's a limited currency of invasion tech. But what if he beats you? What if like he, then he gains another disruption? Okay. So all right. So he can fuck you up another time, but you can't do it more than once per day. No, no, absolutely. You can only do it once per day, but you get another currency. And like, if you fight your rival, every time you win, you gain the ability to fuck your shit up, but you never, you never actively. And the moment you do it, it takes a picture with the camera on the front. So you get to see your, your rival or your enemy going, you can do that super easy because the screenshot feature is just a button on the,
Starting point is 01:54:44 the pad. That's what I've been taking. My phone is incredibly easy. So I spend my fucking rival token to fuck your game up. Yes. Yes. And then the moment it happens, the camera goes off, shows your face and it sends me back on my switch. So I see what I got. Yeah. And then you go, you fucking, that's great. Rival codes, enemy codes. No, enemy has to be enemy codes, not rival codes. Nintendo, that one is free. Rival implies there's like a friendliness to it. No, it's an enemy. You want to fight each other as much as possible. Or you add your friend as a friend, but then you make up another account, but you also like want to add that same friend as an enemy. So you're like, Hey, bro, what's wrong? Oh, my, this fucking enemy is keeps fucking my game
Starting point is 01:55:33 all. That's rough. Was he really handsome and cool? Like, no, I don't know. He's like, Oh, I bet he's really cool though. You should at least keep letting him fuck up your games. Well, here's, you know anything about this guy? No, I got to go, bro. Bye. So here's, here's what you do. What do you do? You, me, Liam Austin, George. Yeah. Satch everybody we know. Yeah. Brennan, all the warriors, all the warriors, right? Put Pat on our enemy code list. Yes. And then we pick a day and we go today. We pick a game of a, like a launch, launch of a game like Mario, right? No, no, no, no, Monster Hunter. Monster Hunter. And then everybody lines up and we, we get on Skype. We get on discord. We go, gentlemen, sink your watches. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 01:56:31 Turn your key, sir. And you fuck that Monster Hunter launch day. That console is on lock all day. Dude, there would like that would be the greatest day of my life. Fuck my wedding. Fuck my baby. Yeah. That would be the greatest day of my life. And all we get from everybody in the, in the discord or in the, the Skype chat is people sending together the screenshots of Pat's face throughout the day as he's going fuck. Like, like this would be a win for humanity in general. Run a train. Yeah. Run a train on him. Just that train plows into the next train and there's just all these explosions as they continually hammer into each other. Perhaps after the fifth or sixth it'd be like, fuck it. I'm turning the console off. And then it's like, no, here, yo, you turn it back
Starting point is 01:57:29 on your yard completionist, turn his console on. All right. Okay. You did that. Give him a whiff of hope. Exactly. Now little V, you're going to boot up a Monster Hunter. We're going to start playing on his account. You have to lose everything to gain anything. So walking away from the system ain't good enough. No. Enemy codes. Enemy codes. Enemy codes. Has it ever been a harder sell? I don't think it has. That came together really fast. That I love it when, when a good plan comes together. Exactly. It's so free. All right. So anyway, that was, that was a mistake into a miracle. Friend codes into enemy codes. That's how you save Nintendo. That'll save Nintendo. You know, it's fun. Yes, it was fun. The blob. It is. It is. I was playing the blob too a few
Starting point is 01:58:29 months back. I talked about, you know, it's cool. There is there's something new with the blob coming up. Yes. They're porting it to PC. So this is pretty dope. If you didn't get to try it out, the blob is a pretty fun game where you just splash color on things. Yeah. And that's about it. Yes. But it's way funner than it sounds. Yeah. So yeah, in April, they're porting that to PC, which is admittedly like it. You know, we're talking. Yeah. 2007, 2008. We're talking 10 years later here. Yeah. The blob to, I think it came out in everything. It might have come out on PC, but came out like, you know, 360 PS3. And I was playing on Xbox one, it was backwards compatible. And it's a better game than the first one for sure. But they're still very similar. The first one
Starting point is 01:59:15 was still quite good. I was also playing the 3DS version on too long ago. It's also pretty good. Cool. But that's cool because that THQ Nordic or whatever is going back into the shit that they're, we own that now. And we got all this shit from the old THQ, that corpse. And what's interesting about the article I was reading here is that they mentioned that the four player split screen multiplayer is still in. For whatever reason. For PC. So time to get out those. Yeah, they're on your laptop. No, time to get out your Microsoft Sidewinders. Yes. And Daisy chained them because they have game ports on top of the controller so that you can play multiple controllers together. That's how we played Hangtime back in the day.
Starting point is 02:00:00 We talked about this before. There was that WWE brawl game that the Power Stone style one. And that was being made by Bluetongue who made the blob. And after WWE brawl was canceled because THQ was literally like that whole studio closed down. So it's cool to see some of their work. What is happening? It's cool to see some of their work continue to live on in this way. I think, yeah, so that's pretty dope. The next thing that was announced, actually, well, this is actually going back to what we talk about with the proper way to handle your fan games. What do we always say when it comes to fan games? Never announce your fan game until, don't even announce it when it's out. Just put it out. Okay. That's the main thing. What else do
Starting point is 02:00:54 we say? Is there something else? There's a part two to it. Well, let's refresh me. So Mother 4 is a fan project that's been in the works for a while. Okay. Now, what ends up happening with this is this is particularly interesting because Mother 3 and the director of Mother 3 was like, Mother 3 is a fucking, it's a game that a lot of people love and I really need to get around to it. I haven't got that copy and I haven't played it yet, but I know how strong it is. But so it's interesting because the director of the Mother games and of Mother 3, he said in an interview that the next Mother game, he wants the fans to make it slash he wants to be the guy that plays it instead of making it. So that actually is almost like direct instruction
Starting point is 02:01:50 for the Project Mother 4 that came along, which people have been following for a while that looks like it's going to be a cool fan game follow up to Mother. So they preemptively just went, you know what, we haven't been hit with any cease and desists, cease and desists are takedowns, but we're preemptively just going to rebrand the game entirely. Oh, hey, not mother thing. You mean absolutely the thing you should do. Yeah. Okay. So they're just like, nope, we're taking it just, it's been public for a while. We haven't managed to, you know, cross to any official wires. Mr. Saturn, it might be Mr. Mars. There you go. Right. And they're going to be just straight up going like, yeah, no, instead of Lucas or Ness, the main character's name is mucus, you know,
Starting point is 02:02:42 like, why not? That would fit with the Earthbound universe because gross stinky smells and shit. It's really easy. Yeah. So that's, they're still right. So they're just going to treat it like a whole new game, a whole new thing. And it's going to be a Mother and an Earthbound inspired, you know, game. Which are hot right now, actually. So why not? And who knows? Maybe some crazy fan will just release some sort of patch that'll just. Put Mother back in. Put Mother back in. That's part two. Put some Earthbound back in. Yes. That's part two. Okay. Is the crazy fan thing. Are the crazy mysterious mega link that shows up that you install into the main directory that just turns it back into the thing that it was originally intent to do?
Starting point is 02:03:26 I'll get those bid for powers reinstalled on to your whatever that was called anime fighter. It's a quick quick three arena. No, but what it what it what it turned out when they took out the DBZ. Yeah, it was just bid for power. It was just bid for power. Okay. Yeah. DB just lack DBZ. Exactly. Fucking just what we don't know where this link came from. It's not hosted on our servers. We don't know. Those servers even come from our servers. Sir, we see the link that is we see bid for power.com slash your name patch dot zip. I have no idea how I know the Internet's mysterious. That has nothing to hacking. Yeah, those hacks or Snowden's up to up to something.
Starting point is 02:04:19 Did you see? Did you see the new hero for? Oh, yes. Did you see Orissa? I that that if there's one thing is like I can't remember that name. Think of Osiris, but it's Orissa, right? I know. I personally not not really nearly as excited as the other other two I the kind of robots of omnics of Overwatch. I'm kind of like the robots she is she does have some nice features like her eyes like, you know, make the emoticons and all that. Yep. But yeah, no, cool. They, you know, they need another robot. Actually, there's none. There's only two. So well, there were for one thing like there, I guess they there hasn't been any girl omnics, right? So that's that this is the first of the of the female omnic types. So so Overwatch DLC, just just just the girls club. Yeah. So far
Starting point is 02:05:13 so far. But this is a prepping for the masculinity of Doomfist. Exactly. He's three after they have to balance out Doomfist with as many as much estrogen as possible. 300% men. So they got to counterbalance it 100%. 300%, I should say. So Orissa, as a character, I'm pretty like lukewarm on the design and actual character. It's an African robot with, you know, like, I like the legs, a couple of trimmings. The legs are cool. It's a very different design choice than the other two. Yeah. But you know what I mean? Like, I definitely doesn't look like divas, like Mecha type thing. It doesn't look like a Reinhardt. Doesn't look like Bastion. It's a very different style of robot. And it's it's it's like robot with African accent. It's pretty funny. Yeah. But no, I'm like,
Starting point is 02:06:06 I'm pretty lukewarm on the design. Like it's whatever to me. But her kit is interesting, fucking interesting, man. Her kit is really cool because she like the other characters that were released on initial like reaction to the full ability list looks like a beast. Right. So it's like already it's just like she's got a really decent gun that you're seeing picking off DPS from far away. Right. And like, it's not so bad on its spread. It's like, you can aim and actually do damage and support the team if you want to play that way. Right. And I think is that I like I have shit aim, but I like decision making characters where you're not locked down to one sort of option or where it's more about it's like because I suck. I like where I can play
Starting point is 02:07:00 character where it's like it's more about the decisions you're making from moment to moment and less about your like your mouse tracking, you know. Yeah. Obviously, Reinhardt represents the maximum of that where there's no aiming whatsoever. And then there's like Zarya where it's like you have a pretty wide, you know, thing you don't have to get a headshot necessarily because yeah, I didn't splash damage and everything. As long as you hit her body, the body you're doing damage or whatever and and spoken like a true scrub, you know, but yeah. So Arissa, she has a pretty good gun. She's got the ability to fortify, which just straight up makes her like tank anything that's happening. Siege tank and like start craft. Oh, May, are you freezing the ground? Well,
Starting point is 02:07:41 I'm just going to walk away from that. Oh, McCree, are you trying to stun me? No, you're not. Right. Any abilities Reinhardt, do you want to tackle me? Well, you're going to get hit by my body and you're going to fall down. Take damage, take 125 damage for doing the tackle 125 and I'm just going to stand here. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Reinhardt, she's super anti Reinhardt. It's crazy. She's added as Reinhardt's enemy code basically because she has the ability to what like stop his tackle. Yeah. Right. She has a shield that she can drop that protects everybody. It's got 900. So it's a weaker shield than Reinhardt, but that'll fucking do. You know what I mean? 900. It's not like the weakness of, say, Winston's 200 point shield or, you know,
Starting point is 02:08:30 and, but like between having that and having a Symmetra, like you can alternate and do a decent job. I'd think so. Of course, you can't move with the shield. It's locked in place, but it's a fucking good ability. Then you've got her halt ability where it's straight up Zarya's ult, except you trigger it whenever you want and it can and will pull people off the map. Yeah. Yeah. I saw this. So it's safe. It's safe. Yeah. No, I saw, I saw a video. Someone just put it in a hole and then just it's a non ult Zarya ult and it's rechargeable and what are the ways can we make Zarya's ult the worst? It's not the worst. It's fucking amazing. What can we do to make it to make those characters? You have, you, yeah, you nullify a bunch of the
Starting point is 02:09:17 class by making someone have the similar or better version of the ability. Zarya keeps them together and that's the strength. This just does it for a moment, but this has line of sight, right? Okay. Fair enough. You have all of that and then you have her supercharger, which is like, it just straight up like anyone damage inflicted by allies. Yeah. So anybody that's next to this center spot here, it's the opposite of Symmetra in a way where she puts down a shield generator. This is a booster for your team. So if you know, you have to hold a certain point, which obviously, you know, when you're doing payload, if you do that and if you have an Anna and your team and Anna. Oh, yeah, they stack. Okay. Oh, yeah, they stack. Okay. And the currently,
Starting point is 02:10:03 the two of those on Bastion is a problem. I bet it is. I think to the point that the guy that does the developer announcements there came out in the way that went, yeah, Bastion is currently a problem. Yeah, because of that ridiculous buff they gave him. Yeah. So we're going to take that out, I think. So he's got like now I think it's like, you can't get Bastion to 70% damage reduction. It's capped at 50. And if you do have someone on your team, is it Anna? Is it Anna's alt? If you put it on Bastion, like he just, you can't, you can't. Yeah, Anna's alt already is incredible. It's like a necessity at this point almost. And you put that combined with the fact that Bastion can reduce damage and coming. And then you use one of these things to boost his offense
Starting point is 02:10:51 as well. And you have an unkillable character that takes alts for free. Amazing. So yeah, it's kind of funny how like Bastion goes from being like a problem for everyone in day one and for anyone who's like shit. Yeah. And then he becomes completely worthless. And now he's back to being a problem. And now we got to find out what'll kill everybody, but then back it off. The world ebbs and flows. Yeah. Everyone thought Doomfist would be next, but it wasn't. I never, I wouldn't have expected just this type of character. Yeah, no, neither did I. But Tank did need a new. Because I thought it was going to be the girl. I thought it was going to be the scientist girl. No, I knew, no, I knew immediately because it's like they never release, why would
Starting point is 02:11:33 they tease a character by just releasing a really unhyped like bio for her? Oh, of course. Yeah. And then dropping the character in retrospect. Yes. It makes no sense from a PR point of view. But I just saw the girl pop up everywhere before Arissa showed up and I was like, oh, yeah. And I saw a lot of people going like, oh, is this the new Overwatch character? And I'm like, no, they would never just show you a boring portrait. I just kind of think Overwatch. I'm not sure. Like how will the world perceive them that they starting to employ children in this war? Well, D.Va plays Starcraft and kills people. It's true. But is D.Va like 18? I don't know. She's not legally at all. She's got to be at least 18 or 21. Okay. But like an eight year old.
Starting point is 02:12:15 She's a munchkin, but she's like, yeah, but she's like nine. Anyway, yeah, it's a bit odd. But whatever, man, Numbani, Crazy Tech, Africa, still ain't got shit on Wakanda. No. But imagine, imagine both nations united. Well, this is not, this is not T'Challa's Africa. No, it's not. This is not the one. It doesn't have a big dumb panther base under the waterfall where you can look at the window and it's super sick. Oh, please, Mr. Rogers, look out our window and appreciate how super sick this really is. And captain's like, this is pretty super sick. It's not bad. It's like, it's like, it's the closest thing to the castle from coming to America. Yeah. Like that ridiculous non-existent castle with animals just walking around.
Starting point is 02:13:09 No, that's good. That's good. The Royal Penis is clean. Fuck out of here. Anyway, any other female characters announced this week? Yeah, but we'll get there. Okay. Because I want to talk about something that I respect and appreciate hustles, but I do not have any ability to penetrate this shield. And I think you can relate. Okay. I think you can relate. Yeah. Fire pro. Okay. No, fire pro. Tell the world what the problem is here. I'll tell the world that fire pro wrestling world has been announced for the PS4 and PS and then. Did you see the teaser video?
Starting point is 02:13:57 I saw the teaser video. Then I saw the actual video with the gameplay in it. And I was like, yes, yes, fire pros coming back. I wish we understood how to play it. Yeah, that's exactly it. And I mean, admittedly, the honest try is the best way to learn how to play a fucking game. But this is the most respected wrestling series outside of, I'd say, the, the, the ackee games. I think in Japan, this is everything. Yes. Fire pros, everything in Japan. To us, it's the ackee engine games. And then there's people that didn't have N64s that were all about the Smackdown games. Yeah. Right. Or losers, which, you know, it's fine. It's a different route. It's a different route, but it's fine. I accept that. I just, I just, you know,
Starting point is 02:14:44 I, I'm okay with those people. They, they lost out in the end, but I don't hate their decisions. Fire pro, when we try to play on WrestleMania, it's the, the thing with fire pro is that it's timing based, not mashing, not whatever. It's completely different from any of the wrestling games that we, it's so subtle in that how moves come out. It's like, you just have to have a feel for the animations. And even then they're very subtle. They're like, unlike ackee engine games or, or Smackdown ones, it's like, there's like a, a shoulder goes up slightly to the left. That's when you're supposed to press a button. That's when your grapple initiates. So here's what it is. It's an institution, right? And you know what happens when you jump into,
Starting point is 02:15:27 God, let's say Marvel versus Capcom two. Yes. Right. Very easy to get in. Now, let's say you are familiar with fighting games, but you've never really spent a lot of time on them. And then you can always start here. So fire pro, every time we've started has felt like this has been something that has been going on for years. You've been advancing this system for, yes, exactly. Like fucking maybe 30 years. I don't know when it came out, but like 95. It's insane. And I, I really just need to, at some point, if maybe it'll be when we take a look to sit down, we need to actually take an honest shot at learning how fire pro works. And also the creator russer, which we never tinkered with, but is incredibly detailed.
Starting point is 02:16:14 Yes. Because of the vision, because of the, the system in the game of like how the sprites are displayed, it's really easy to, you know, just dress those sprites up and replace different limb parts with whatever you want. Yeah. And of course, the legendary pseudo 51 storyline confusing statement as well, where he was like, I'm supportive of this product. I think this is radical that this is happening. And that's it. And everyone's like, pseudo 51 confirmed to direct fire pro. And then he literally had to go, no, I'm not. I'm just saying this is cool. Storyline work for ending in suicide. I'm just confirming. I like this project. And I'm
Starting point is 02:17:02 literally said the words. I'm cheering it on from the sidelines. Storyline consumer like confirmed to resume after the suicide. It doesn't break his neck. And he comes back down like, like Sin City, like Marv and just goes to our heart again, rather it goes. No, I haven't finished wrestling yet. But yeah, this is this year, I think or is it next year? It says I think it was either said 2017 or 2018. Fire pro wrestling world. What was the date on this? It's an early access title for PC. So at the very least, you're going to be able to play it at a little bit and get used to it. And we'll launch via steam early access. And oh, the second quarter of 2017. So not too far. We don't know when the really final release is going to be,
Starting point is 02:17:50 but it's going to be hitting early access. And this is, you know, the last fire pro game released officially was that Xbox Live avatar fighting one. Do you remember that? Do you remember this tragic event? I don't. It was all it took was your avatars on your 360 and just put them in a really shitty, even like rudimentary version of the fire pro, like kind of grapple style, but not even close. It was like the worst. I didn't even do it for a WrestleMania. On the animation quality of a game like that, considering what the bottom of an avatar shoe looks like. So I remember that, you know, I think this would happen because one of those announcements that no one thinks is going to happen. Yeah. But can we can we like make a pact
Starting point is 02:18:37 right now? Yeah. Can we make a vow that we're going to give it an honest shot and actually learn and try to understand fire pro because there's a reason why people love it. And we just have to penetrate that first layer. We have to. I'll help you penetrate. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Because because it's worth it in the end. Yep. Yeah. In the end. Well, so we got I forgot about this. Donnie Yen is what he said, brother. Fucker. So fucking cool. been more perfect. Like, haven't you made this movie before Donnie Yen? I'm pretty sure he's made this movie. So he knows exactly what he's getting into. So yes, Donnie, they went, they
Starting point is 02:19:22 went, Hey, Donnie, you just did Star Wars. You're super huge now, right? Like you already were huge there. And you're kind of here. You're you're pretty big, but you weren't like super huge. All right. Now you're a big deal. All right. Do you want to make a movie like that's like exactly what you made all the other ship before, except people love the thing it's based on? Now, yes, this is the coolest thing ever because we like sleeping dogs. We love we love the Don. Yen. And he's the best. He's getting old, but I don't care who I feel bad for. Fucking United Front. That's closed and shuttered. And they don't get to revel in the success because Square Enix fucked up everything.
Starting point is 02:20:01 They get to enjoy it individually, I suppose, but not as a studio. But it just sucks that instead of getting the sleeping dogs to got that stupid MMO that nobody played, then they just closed after smash and grab stayed out on these for about a week. Triad Wars. Hey, look, tell you what, man, you know, I, you know, I saw there was like a person I saw I was replying to that was like, you know, I'm pretty bummed that this is not sleeping dogs too. And I said, yeah, I saw that. And I said, like, you're not, you know, it's like, you're not wrong, but maybe this will bring attention to it. Square Enix does own the right so they could start up a new game. There's nothing to stop sleeping dogs to from happening. But I like the fact that very
Starting point is 02:20:44 few brands and video games are worth adapting. And I think sleeping dogs is an easy movie. Because it's a movie. I have no problem with this. Dogs is the Hong Kong action movie, like, like subgenre of cops and fucking criminals, triads working together. Mass hysteria. Yeah. So just do it. Just do it. Look, and Donnie Yen is like the only guy. Except for maybe guys I don't know. He's the guy. Winston is Wu Jing. Get him. Yes. I can't think of someone annoying and mousy and scrawny enough and sleeping dogs the game to be dog eyes. But whoever you get has to look like a fucking rat. But what about the guy that plays Jackie Jackie, who's an actual Hong Kong martial arts movie star? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:21:33 Any kind of any side to something? I forget. But he was there. There's tons of movie stars in Sleeping Dogs that you can just get. Put Emma Stone in this movie. Yeah. So of course, of course. And I mean, while Donnie Yen is going to be, you know, Wei Shen, what's his name that plays Wei Shen actually? Oh, God. Yeah. I know his name. He played Eorean. Eorean King of Fighters live action. Exactly. That guy. He could play him. Actually get like, give him, give him something. Get him in there, man. Please get him in there because he did a great job. And I think all of these, all the fact that the cast is already made up of actors, you know. And hey, who knows, maybe a certain Oscar winner might grace the film
Starting point is 02:22:17 with her presence. Maybe, maybe, maybe she'll lower herself. That'd be awesome. This is really cool because again, this is one of those things that out of nowhere and just, oh, instantly super hot dude right now, who is literally this movie. Yep. Directed by the guy who directed the Fast and Furious, or Fast and Furious, excuse me. I don't know which one that is anymore. Is that Sky Mission? That is Wild Speed. Max. Max. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was the reboot. Yeah. Not the reboot, but like the renamed thing. I want to say six where they just kind of... That's fine. Yeah. Honestly, like any Fast and Furious director, maybe aside from the first two or three. It's an action movie. It's an action movie. Like you have the basic storyline. You
Starting point is 02:23:02 know what he's got to do. Would I prefer it to be the guy that directed the raid? Yes. But you know, he's busy, I guess. Yeah. It's fine. But man, I'm excited for that. That's fucking great. That's good stuff. So... I just hope it releases like so many video game movies that are now, it's never come out. We're on year 10 of Uncharted still being made, so it's rough out there. Dotty's name is attached. I'm excited. Yeah. That's a little bit more than nothing, which is usually they don't even have a star attached. Gears of War movie was supposed to come out. Was that a thing? Yes. That was announced. That we were making a Gears of War movie and just it languishes in development, hell. Man, I forgot about that. I saw this story too. So Hellblade is
Starting point is 02:23:48 finally playable from start to finish, it seems. But still set to come out this year, but they've been working on it for two and a half years now. Hellblade is Ninja Theory's weird narrative action game, which, you know, like again, unlike Heavenly Sword, this is slower, more deliberate and has a move list that is all available from the get go. Yeah, it's more like... You just have to do your inputs. It's more like, not For Honor. God. Well, For Honor's not a bad comparison. Yeah, no, it isn't. But it's more like Infinity Blade in that it's done in a very stance-wise, like from the waist up type fighting. For Honor definitely makes me think of... This makes me think of For Honor and how you see where the camera goes and how slow and
Starting point is 02:24:34 like deliberate the combat is. So I'm excited for this to see, you know, and we mentioned it before where it's like, all right, guys, like, you know... This thing's been... You've been working on this and like Ninja Theory, you know, like, there are studio that like, if they have guidance, I suppose, or they have... Even when they do have guidance. Yeah. Like, they can put something out, right? I'm not sure if they have. They... DMC did get fixed into an all right game. Sure. It took revisions, fixing in lots of angry shouting and yelling, but it did in its final state become an all right game. Okay, sure. So Hellblade, from following their combat videos and... Hellblade, another image character. Yes. Looks like it's going to be a really solid combat system. And,
Starting point is 02:25:29 you know, I mean, we'll see where it goes, but it's like, it's obviously a story focused experience. Yeah, there's like a lot of cutscenes and you're basically walking kind of around to fight to fight. It's not an explorative game at all. You're not fighting grunts. Yeah, exactly. You're fighting big dudes. So that sounds interesting to me. Yeah. When I actually heard that, because I literally thought it was, God, what's the other game? Heavenly Blade, yeah. Heavenly Sword. Heavenly Sword, whatever. I thought that's what this was going to be when they initially, initially announced it, because it was like, Hellblade, here's a woman, she has a sword. I'm like, oh, just like, okay. So now that when they tell like, no, this is actually a very different thing,
Starting point is 02:26:08 I was like, you know, that's, that's more interesting than I initially thought. Yeah. I mean, it's like I said, it seems like you're getting a kind of like more deliberate or more focused, like almost for odd or single player mode in a way, right? Where it's like, you're walking from duel to duel. Yeah. But, but I'm interested in seeing how, how this is going to stack up. How it all plays out. Because this is sound like it could be a disaster as well. Possibly, but it seems like even if it does turn out to have its problems, if it has any garish issues. Sure. We're sure going in on the cave girls with the, with the, with the skins and pelts on, it seems to be a, like, however, it seems like at worst, it'll still be their best game.
Starting point is 02:26:52 Maybe. Is kind of what I'm trying to get at. I'd like it to be. So we, we shall see. That's neat. We're watching the trailer right now. There's some neat stuff in it. So now to take a step back from there and get into. I'm so hungry. Other, other. Podcast hungry. Podcast hungry. Cast hungry. It's the only way to podcast. It makes you want it more. Is your stomach making Japanese gurgle sounds? You know what makes Japanese sounds? What, what makes Japanese sounds? Another thing that came out of nowhere this week where I was like,
Starting point is 02:27:45 So listen, we've got it down to a science at this point. It's extremely predictable. Yes. What is all you got to do is take a killer instant character and make their song, have their name in it, being yelled over and over, and we're good to go. We are a spinal, Jago, and now Hisako. So, so this is the next remixed kind of bonus character for killer instinct is Shin Hisako, which is, which I fucking puked my pants when I saw that name pop up. Well, it's perfect because she's Japanese and you can get away with that. You can totally get away with it. True or dragon or awakened Hisako. Shin literally has a million or God Hisako. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, you know, but like the idea that it was going to be
Starting point is 02:28:31 like human Hisako, it's not exactly because she's still, still undead, but she looks less like a ghost and more like a zombie. Zombie. Yeah. I guess she's kind of like a purple skin and she's wearing like a kind of Japanese-ish armor rather than a kimono. And it's all about the sword. Yeah. She has her dad's katana. So instead of her Naginata and stuff like that, and Keats also said she's going to play much more straightforward and be probably more of like a rushdown type character, whereas Hisako now is kind of this like sort of pokey grappler kind of. She's a weird hybrid. Well, you know, the way Max was describing it, I think is similar to like how he's describing Kilgore and Fulgore, where it's like there's surface level, the surface level like qualities,
Starting point is 02:29:18 like advantages. And then there's like a parent and then there's deep things where it's like you have to really learn the ins and outs of the characters to understand where the strength is. Because it's like you take a character initially, you mess around with their moveset, you have some matches and you're like, I don't know what's going on here. And then you really have to get in deep with the character and figure out like real deep shit, which is apparently what Kilgore has going. Yeah, manuals and setups. And Hisako is one of those characters where it's like, yeah, her advantages are based on her ability to wreak with different timings and land predictive parries in the middle of your combos. So like you're looking at a situation, you're
Starting point is 02:29:58 looking at something where, you know, the average player is going to have a hard time getting into that. But if Hisako is a bit more straightforward, that's pretty cool. I think it's great idea to have a character that's as complex as you want, and then release like a remix different version of that character that is a bit more straightforward, almost like variations and MK, like, but, you know, dedicating a whole character to it. And we're getting this in combination with the Ultras, sorry, Ultimates, not every character, unfortunately, select few. But it's very weird because it's basically like a secret season four. But it's not really, yeah, but it's not really season four. It's just
Starting point is 02:30:39 just extra shit. Yeah, you know, I think they're showing Hisako at the Killaring Saint World Cup this weekend, like gameplay ever. And she's comes out this month, actually. Yeah, which is cool, because I wasn't expecting I was expecting more Ultimates and colors and skins. So it's cool as another character. And I Keats also, I believe he said that the their last character of this weird bonus season will be completely made from the ground up like a new, new character, not like a remix of anybody. So that's cool. But like, just like, I literally my favorite character, like my favorite, the new characters, maybe an entire game. So just me getting another version of her that's even more straightforward in case I want the option is just awesome.
Starting point is 02:31:21 As an unknown, like, like, what am I trying to say, as like a secret, like, new thing that no one expected or whatever, like a surprise as a surprise character. I think that's a good pick. I think that's pretty fine. Because they're bouncing around things like Shadow Orchid. That's where I kind of think it's a little lazy. You have already one shadow character. And yeah, there's lots of violent and dark versions of like Street Fighter characters or whatever. But those were always never treated as like a full character. It was like a slight variant with a different color palette, like Dark Zangief or whatever. Oh, boy, we got some breaking news. Oh, breaking. We got some breaking news and breaking news. Do we have an egg that we can break on the table
Starting point is 02:32:03 to simulate the sound of break? Okay, we're going to have to we're going to have to just get right into this breakers revenge three breakers. No, shut up. Damn it. I'm going to pull this up. And we're going to have to do this live here. I guess. Okay, wow. All right. This doesn't happen all that often. Jojo's Bizarre Adventure first film live action shows. I show his cast at prayer. Oh, I seen photos of Jodorow and shit. Hold on. Hold on. Yeah, we've been seeing those pictures for months now and they've been slowly wrapping up because it is coming out. Is there okay? Okay, okay. Literally going to be an actual trailer. Okay. Uh, how do you want to do this? Let's see if we can if we can figure this out. Maybe the sound will play if I do this.
Starting point is 02:32:46 Uh, no, no, wait, it's not a thing. Oh, it's just the cast talking. Or is it? It's this is there. Why are they not showing the goddamn? No, here it is. Here it is. Okay. It's just a teaser shot. It's just text right now. Japanese purple text. And then it says 2017 summer. All right. It's gonna be terrible. It's gonna be terrible. It's gonna be bad. Why aren't you showing the movie? It's gonna be bad. It's gonna be bad. And here's why. Here's why. Here's why. Well, A, because it's coming out those good anime live action adaptations. It's coming out in like 90 days. That's not good. Right. Maybe, maybe a little bit more or less give or take. Right. Between 90 and, um, no, hold on. Hold on. Continue your thought, but I have a counterthought
Starting point is 02:33:32 already. I'm going to counter break you. Okay. Uh, let's see. Let me, let me, hold on. Let me sit. Let me see here because there might be, I mean, maybe I played the wrong thing. I'm getting reports here. Maybe I played the wrong thing. This day put this teaser out and then there's another actual teaser. Okay. So it, but it's not on this page. Okay. So I'm going to need to look for, look that up. But, uh, what, what, where are you going to go? You're going to say in 90 days, that's, that's bad that maybe they're not showing stuff. And even if they are showing a little teaser thing, you're just like, that's, that worries me because the, what I wanted to say is that we've been getting teasers for, um, these character photos. Yeah. Right. And first,
Starting point is 02:34:06 the first thing we saw was Josuke and then nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing. And then we saw KG, uh, Keicho and like Okuyasu and stuff. And eventually we got Jojo, not too long ago. But it's super close to the release and we've seen nothing of it. Yeah. And every other Japanese anime movie has had the same thing when the movie's been terrible. Yeah. My, my thing on this is that that's actually a, more how the Japanese movie industry as a whole. There was nothing shown of Shin Godzilla until like a few months before it actually came out. Was there a trailer or there, there was a trailer, but it was like maybe 90 days out or it was like six months away. Like American movie industry, you start, you start now. Okay. Start showing it as soon as you can. I think
Starting point is 02:34:54 this is maybe for the fantasy, like, you know, not drama genre, like they want to keep it under wraps until that's just my understanding of it. When I went to, uh, uh, G Fest, uh, God's little festival last year, I was talking to, I was talking to some people and they're like, yeah, that's usually how that works. Okay. Okay. But you are right in that they've shown footage of these live action things really late because they're afraid people will think. Well, my instinct, my instinct is that, uh, you know, that's kind of, uh, what that's kind of what would happen when they were afraid of it and whatnot. So, yeah. Okay. I'm looking at a link here. It's mentioning things, but I think it's honestly just the pictures. So we're looking at Jotaro. Uh, we're looking at
Starting point is 02:35:36 Josuke Koichi, the rest of the cast in these, uh, still photos, but these photos are good. That's actually showing like, you know, stuff to me. I know it's not footage, but is anyone, does anyone have a link to this? Yeah. It's on the JoJo movie Twitter. So I'm going to have to find that. I'm going to have to find that's buried deep into Twitter. Okay. Let's see here. That's, that's very everyone. Everyone is good live action anime adaptations. It's like, I'm not sure if Phoenix right counts, but it's good. Uh, I, those Rooney Kenshin, some people told me they were good. They're Kenshin movies. Like there's one that's bad. Okay. Rather, I saw the first Kenshin movie and I thought it was good. Um, but that was fine. I think there's like two or three of those.
Starting point is 02:36:19 Death Note was fine as well. It was very different. That's true. It was very different, but it was fine. Um, and, uh, 20th century boys was fine as well. Uh, right. So how is attack on, on, on Aotons? Fuck off. Oh, okay. Sorry, sir. So I didn't mean to offend you. No, there are, there are a number of them that are actually all right. Um, good one. Why would you do this? I did it. Why would you do this? You invited me here. Okay. Well, I don't know which ones have you seen? Uh, I haven't seen of all those that you mentioned. I haven't seen. Um, I haven't seen Rooney Kenshin. I haven't seen attack on Titan. Have you? No, are there any live action anime that you have seen?
Starting point is 02:37:02 Um, God, the one you mentioned before, I saw, I saw Death Note. I saw L save the world. Uh, I saw 20th century boys. Uh, shit, there's more. I saw Dragon Ball Evolution. Have you seen that one? It's pretty good. Uh, hmm. No, I think that's about it. I see. I've seen Fist of the Earth star. Okay. That's about it. Okay. Um, I'm sure I've seen more of it. I can't remember. They didn't, wasn't there a Gantz one? There was, uh, I didn't see that actually on Netflix, a new Gantz movie. Uh, they, yeah, I didn't see, wasn't there a blood, the last vampires while there was no way. Hold on. Oh, I think, I don't know if Gantz ever came out. Maybe it did. That's a quick, that's a quick search away, but yeah. But like I said, there's a CG Gantz
Starting point is 02:37:48 movie that just got released on Netflix. Right. And Gantz as an anime was also like not great. It's Gantz is too, there's too much going on to ever summarize in a movie or even an anime. I'd love to see the CERC. Yeah. Well, we like Gantz is there's so much, there's so much like not plot happening over the course of like 17, 18, 19 volumes of Gantz that it feels like you would have to just, you'd have to either commit to... Dude, this is what you got before. You'd have to just commit to... Oh, wait, is that it? No, no, hold on. I think I found a different thing. I think I found a different trailer for it because I'm seeing a picture of what looks like Morio with a purple sky. Yeah, it does. The sky's all
Starting point is 02:38:24 fucked up colors. That's perfect. So we're gonna see. 31 seconds. We're gonna see. All right. Okay. We're looking at Moriocho and 30th anniversary at JoJo. There's Josuke. He's using his stand to beat up people, but it's invisible. We saw an arrow. Oh, it's very colorful. A lot of purple. It's dark, actually. It's actually a little dark now that, yeah. It's pretty dark. Huh. And then that's it. I was not. So the 4th of August, it comes out. Okay. So that's still pretty close. Yeah, that's weird. Okay. Hmm. I was expecting it to not be very shadowy, but yeah, we have 30 seconds to judge off of that. And we get a couple character shots really quickly. Sure. Sure. I wonder... This is a teaser, yeah. It is a teaser.
Starting point is 02:39:23 And you have to wonder if they're gonna do the thing where they have like this automatically be a trilogy or at least two movies. First movie dealing with... Well, that started as Crusaders movie never came out. Yeah. Well, you know, like... Cancelled into a two-in-one. Because they set up the second Attack on Titan movie and you're just like, everybody needs to go fuck off. Okay. Yeah. Did I tell you about that, by the way? I think you might have, but... Dude. Give me a hint again. There's a kiss. Yes, yes. I should watch one of them. It's so goddamn upsetting. I know, I know. Oh, I remember you lamenting this greatly. Yeah. So far, not much to go on. We haven't seen stands yet because... Well, that's the thing. That's the thing. They're feverishly working. Oh, we need to
Starting point is 02:40:14 know. See, the problem with that... That's what we want to know the most. The problem with that is that unless there's some movies I don't know, I'm sure there's plenty, like Shin Godzilla is the best CG I've ever seen in a Japanese movie. Because for what a reason, they just don't do it. Budgets are limited. Well, budgets are budgets, but there hasn't been a big budget one. I guess it might be Shin Godzilla if anyone knows of good CG, like CG that's like, hey, that looks today, not like 10 years ago. So maybe hopefully the CG of, I assume, stands will be there and be up to snuff. Maybe. I mean, the first Gacha Man opening battle scene was pretty cool, but... Do you remember how Ryok looked in Death Note? He looked like a big... Ryuk? Ryuk? He looked like a fucking
Starting point is 02:41:08 CG action figure, man. It was bad. Yeah. And that's an entire character, and that's what stands are. They're characters, basically, that float and behind you. I'm really surprised with how dark this trailer is. I really expected it. Especially since it's based on part four. The most colorful, the most bright and cheery. Well, cheery at first. They're doing the colors with Mario where you get the purple sky and stuff. They're definitely color grading that, but a lot of the shots in this teaser seem to be heavy shadow contrast and such. And there's one shot where you can see a little bit of a bright purple thing or pink thing in the background, and I don't know if that's supposed to be a stand or not. It could be anything. It could be anything. We're looking at blurred images
Starting point is 02:42:00 and we're like, what is that? Yeah, we're just taught off the presses anyway. Is that a booby? We'll see. We'll see. We'll see. I stand in the exact same place I did at the beginning of this podcast, which is like... You went into this podcast thinking... It's probably going to be bad, because there's too many bad live action anime adaptations. I don't know about who's directing, who's writing this. Maybe that gives a clue. Not that I doubt that matters. It matters a little. But what I mean is just like, these adaptations tend to be shit, unless they're a not and that's the exception to the rule. Especially starting at four. You have a lot of exposition. Unless they don't give a fuck and they're just like, no, you know JoJo. I explained my theory on that, and the
Starting point is 02:42:44 reason why is because... Well, I think it's two things. I think one, part four takes place in Japan. It's a setting they can use, and it's cheaper to film where they don't have to go to fucking Egypt or England or America or Italy. These stories about traveling the globe are stories that they don't want to shoot because they can't afford them. That's exactly why they didn't do them. That's exactly why they didn't start. And then secondly, because they don't want to fuck up Dio. Until at least they know what they're doing maybe. Like Dio, you got to get Dio right. They're probably going to need to get to that eventually, if this is successful. But I think primarily it's straight up because they all take place around the globe. Because part two literally
Starting point is 02:43:36 goes everywhere. Part three is a journey from fucking... Yeah, but it's from... Yeah, okay, it's from Japan. Egypt is the final destination. It's Japan to Egypt. They go through India, they go through fucking Pakistan, they go by the Ganges. But I'm also thinking of part two, which is like in England, America, Brazil, and Italy. Yes. So that's just as all like, globe hopping. Insanely expensive to shoot these things. People didn't know this. The most expensive thing in movies is having to film in different countries and locations. If you're filming in one place, it's not bad. The sheer money spent moving your crap is what costs a lot. Well, because the schlepping, because I'm just like, imagine if you would, it's like, hey, look, we're in Brazil
Starting point is 02:44:26 fighting the pillar men or finding the pillar men or whatever. And you're fucking just looking at Okinawa. And then they're like, hey, look, we're in Italy. No, you're down the beach at Okinawa. They should take your green screen and just put in different photos and just have them like JoJoing. David production. Oh, whoever's working behind this. Everybody call me up. I got a green screen. Dude, I have a demo. I've shown you what I can do. My real live action JoJo has been done already. I did it. I am live action JoJo. You are motherfucker. You come talk to me. I'll hook you up. Well, I wish it showed a bit more, but at least it showed something. Yeah. But that's but that's how their teasers go. Like I swear, like the you're going to see a full on trailer, maybe a month
Starting point is 02:45:17 before it shows before that comes out. If they go to if they actually go and they shoot in Brazil, it'd be cool if God damn it. Was it Jose Joestar? Did you see that wrestler? That's like a Lucia. Yes, Joestar. You better hope that Fantasia gets this because if they don't, you're going to be waiting like another year to see it in like a decent format. I think it's very likely that they're going to get they didn't get Godzilla. They didn't get Hasako versus Kayako. They got 20th century boys, which is extremely like that's not a popular. Oh, wait, sorry. Never mind about Godzilla because another company got the rights to that. So they weren't able to get it. But like they don't get things they should sometimes. Sometimes. Yeah. Sometimes the big things they
Starting point is 02:46:02 got Phoenix, right? Like when it was they get they get smaller things. But yeah, sometimes there's big things that you expect that don't land. So I don't think I don't know if you looked into it at all. But Colin is out in Street Fighter and she's pretty interesting actually. Uh, in general, I think you're like on a not too deep, but just on a casual level. There's something interesting about this character where she because of two things that she can do is not a great shot of her face. It's not. But because of two things she can do, it's very interesting how you play with her. She can do her V skill, which like OTG is you and then and then confirm that into a super. So that means when she lands a knockdown, she can super you
Starting point is 02:46:46 if she throws you. That's different. She can super you. So basically there's a lot of ways she can confirm into her special that is very unlike anything in Street Fighter because usually once you get a knockdown, you're just setting up weight. Yeah. For the next thing, right? You're you're either doing your vortex or getting into your, your, your whatever your okey setup is where the person is going to wake up and make them guess rock, paper, scissors. But the fact that she can do her ice stomp into super means your goals are completely different here. And that's pretty interesting. They're experimenting with like systems in Street Fighter that they don't usually experiment with, you know, and like, I guess for the DLC characters for like a season
Starting point is 02:47:27 two, that's when you should start like trying new things because you just want to just come up with like s s characters like I guess you want to you want to experiment with these things now because you want the game to feel fresh again. Refresh and yeah, exactly. Like and like she does freeze your she freezes your stun bar when that happens too. So it doesn't decrease afterwards and stuff. Yeah, it's it's it's a bit of an interesting thing. Unfortunately, though, this season will still be shit unless they add the new Street Fighter five characters, Kyle Travers and Sawada. So I was surprised because you you seem to use it seems like you didn't know that Kyle was confirmed as a character because Capcom in Japan has never
Starting point is 02:48:13 officially confirmed Street Fighter final three wise existence in any way. Part of the Capcom Street Fighter five character profile project was every single peripheral character got a profile. OK, that's why I didn't know that that was the they got everyone because they they are. Yes. And so when you see someone like Sawada getting a profile, you better fucking expect a main character from one of their games that they didn't care for. But it's a main character is going to show up. But it still at least confirms that they're like it's not something that they're they're trying to erase from existence. No, no, no. The project was to get everyone. Dude, we know more about Sean's family than Sean, then Sean himself.
Starting point is 02:49:00 You see the profile for Kyle. It says like he is a very serious man that lives in Metro City. His brother has many problems. Like that's so amazing. It's true. It's true. You've seen the trailer for DuckTales. I did. The new DuckTales fucking looks amazing. I when I watch this, I was all right, what's this going to be? I'm like, oh, it's going to be the type of thing that makes me laugh with like with like funny jokes. Well, just the art style getting back to the comics. I knew. Watching this, I also was like, oh, well, he's going to like this. Oh, I love it, man. And I'm so excited for you. David, David Tennant as a as Scrooge, Kilgore Kilbane. Yeah, sure. No, God, what are you trying to say?
Starting point is 02:49:47 Jessica Jones, Jessica Jones. Purple man. Yeah. Yeah. But what's his actual name? David Tennant. No, the character's name is Purple Man and whatever. He's the doctor. It doesn't matter. But him as Scrooge is awesome. I'm I'm like really happy because with a new a new cartoon of a reboot or whatever, like there they could have just done the reboot thing, which is a formula at this point of like, it looks like a new kind of semi CG show. You know, like the like it could have been something that was, I guess, not lifeless, but just a safe reboot in the way that, you know, we were talking about like how like Jurassic World kind of follows that safe reboot guideline. Yeah. And Jurassic World is a sequel. Of course. But what I'm saying
Starting point is 02:50:31 is like, there's like for cartoons, they could have just done like like new like new Looney Tunes, for example, right? Where it's just like, yeah, it's just a new it's just a new like modern cartoon art style. Jokes are pretty much just like same memes. We're getting Powerpuff Girl meme characters in there. You know what I mean? Like it just they could have been lifeless and bad, but they actually have something they're trying to do, which is make it look like the old comics did. And the actual trailer, like I was like, that's that looks fun and interesting. Like like Huey Dewey and Louis look fine. Like I'm really excited to check this out. And I hope that it can be as interesting as Steven Universe or Adventure Time or like those new age that new age
Starting point is 02:51:14 of cartoons. I kind of think that's why they even did this in like a nice traditional animation. So instead of a CG thing, because that type of cartoon is like hotter than it's ever been where it's absolutely spend some time on traditional animation and you can make it look good and have a couple episodes building up a continuing story. It fucking holds up so much better than like bad CG shows, you know, like. And I hope they pull they learned that lesson from like, I guess, the newer shows that are successful and start to go that way with it. Because like I said, Powerpuff Girls. Yeah, yeah. The less said, the better. And like, I love how they tease us with the with just the theme song a few weeks back. And they're like, Oh, no, use a trailer to
Starting point is 02:51:54 Gargoyles. It was the age of duck tails. It was an age of darkness. Every time I just I want to I don't want no pony tails. I don't want to linger on it. But every time someone sends me a new screenshot or video clip of a spider side of Powerpuff Girls. Yeah, it's the most horrific fucking shitty thing. What do you mean? Like, it's like, I only hit on Powerpuff Girls all of a sudden. No, the new Powerpuff Girls. Oh, I haven't seen that. What was that? Oh, that's why because you weren't reacting to it. And I was like, I was just like, what the look at this fucking dick just shade on Powerpuff Girls. I can't bring I bring it up. And I mentioned a couple of I don't know what a reboot looks like the new Powerpuff Girls. It's
Starting point is 02:52:49 just Buzzfeed the cartoon. I didn't know I funny the cartoon or whatever. Like they like the jokes are literally just like buttercup making a me gusta face. Okay, right? Or or like or like a you know, like, like, you know, the stupid fucking like reddit meme faces. Yeah, they just do those. I didn't know those are the actual punch out. This is out. It's been happening for a while. I haven't seen a single thing of this, you know, like, like all three of them just making dumb fucking shitty me. You get one on the screen. It's it's it's fucking painful. Just clog it all up. Sure. Why not? Sure. I didn't know that there was a Powerpuff Girls reboot. It's the worst. So that's why you're like, oh, shitty memes, like in Powerpuff Girls. I was like, I was like, I don't remember
Starting point is 02:53:43 a lot of shit. I was thinking of my head. I was like, maybe it's been a while since I've watched it. Dude, the new were their memes when Powerpuff Girls were out. That's what I was thinking. Like the new one every time someone shares something with me, it just gets worse and fucking worse. What are spider sides boots? They're you you can take a crack at it. I don't know. I mean, he's a clone and his face and he has lips sticking out of his mask. So it's like they didn't get the his feet weren't done when he was cloned. I think no, I think I think his feet look like that. Those are not boots. I think those are actually that's horrific. Yep. But that's spider side's existence. Blame the jackal. Every moment I live is spider agony. And the vomit actually has a place
Starting point is 02:54:33 to go because he's got a mouth for it because he's in he's wants to charge. Oh, all right. So I just saw a screenshot of Powerpuff Girls. Let's get into some emails, shall we? Oh, yeah. All right. If you've got a letter that you want us to read on the airs continue, you can send it to super best spider side at listen. Yes, that's unnecessary. You don't need to do this. You can send it to super best friend cast at gmail.com. That's super best friend cast at gmail.com slash spider side. If you could email me a bullet so I can fucking swallow it instead of staring at this screen anymore, that'd be nice. Oh, I'm showing him. I'm showing him the the me gusta fit. No, no, the me just whatever it's called the fucking angry
Starting point is 02:55:25 meme face. It's just it's just like way to strike. Well, that meme iron is hot, you guys. Kojima was right. We need fresh memes. Anyway, anyway, what do we got? So we got a lot of small town gangster names coming in. Oh, yeah. And I was pretty happy with with a lot of them. Because, you know, every every couple that were good. Everywhere wants to sound cool, right? And even places that shouldn't. Yeah. Well, you know, killer is Dan says that like he lives in a town in Central California called Madera. Some people call it Madtown. Some people call it Cosm, right? He used to live in Gilroy, which is the garlic capital. Really? And people used to call that Gillis. So not that cool. Yeah, I don't know. That sounds like a normal town. I'm from
Starting point is 02:56:18 Gillis. We got where was it? These are mixed in a little bit. Here we go. Here's another one. Kevin sent us his which he he's he's from Indianapolis. Okay, this because this has potential sometimes known as Naptown. Now, is that just a cool name for it? Or is it implied that you're very sleepy? Well, here's the thing in Naptown. Level two. Yes. Of Naptown is when you just call it the nap. I'm from the nap. That's that's not bad. That's not bad. I'll take that. I'll take that because that doesn't try to make it sound cool. It doesn't. If you're pushing that on your on your mixtape, and you're like, yeah, we're from the nap, we take lots of sleeps. We want you to like if you're all about sleep boys, if you're all even talking about how important it is,
Starting point is 02:57:16 you're rapping about how you need to get your eight hours 10 if you're a teenager. Yeah, then I'm all about that. Yeah, I know. Naps, then I saw that because yeah, it's not that cool. But it totally makes sense. And it does sound a little bit cool. I'm I I support from the nap. I support hip hop that that supports sleep. Okay, you need this is how you do it. This is how you do it, by the way. When someone when you read out a name of a cool sounding city, you put straight out of in front of it. If it sounds like it works, then it works. It doesn't work, then it doesn't work. You're not wrong. It's just that like those straight out of comp to beam pictures. Of course, of course, but it's still it's still something like come and go so quickly. All right, let's try it.
Starting point is 02:58:03 It's still a good metric. All right, so Jeffrey is from he's from Saint Bernard in Cincinnati, Ohio. Straight out of the Nard. See, that sounds like you're talking about your birth. How about that? I'm straight out of Nards. Does that work? It kind of nerd straight out of the Nard. That also sounds incredibly uncool. Yep. So I can support it. I can support that. It reminds me of Nard War. Straight out of the Nard. Okay. Actual questions. Let's take one here. Someone from the Nard. Okay, so Nick says, how's it going? Super best boyos. A lot of pretext. But the course question here is, what in your opinion is worse for a story to have it abandoned before it reaches the end without any closure or satisfaction? Or to have it make
Starting point is 02:59:09 it across the finish line, limp dick stalling out and losing all the momentum it's built up? Do you rather have something never get a proper ending or have it end incredibly poorly? Would you rather Berserk just come to a screeching halt and stop in the middle of its story? Or would you rather the story get bad? For Berserk, I'd absolutely rather it stop. Okay. Then for it to be going on since the 80s and for it to end terribly, would leave an everlasting taste of disappointment and shit in your mouth? Whereas if it ended, you go, that sucks. But you can imagine. At least leave in your mind an impression of all Berserk was awesome. And it's happened before. We've gotten used to things where it's like, that was good and then it just went away.
Starting point is 02:59:55 Yeah, Gronlog. Well, Gronlog, it's fine where it ends. I think Gronlog is perfect where it is. But a lot of people want more. Well, I was going to say Exo Squad, but then I found that I was wrong. There was a second season we never got. We never got the second season. So all my pent up like what the fuck happened was all based on stupid Canadian broadcasting. Yeah. Okay, now what's something that actually ended where you're right, Gronlog is a bad example. Firefly. Firefly. Firefly. We did eventually get the movie. Yeah. But before that happened, we just was like, well,
Starting point is 03:00:28 that's the end of the show. And I was like, really? Fuck. That was a really good middle of the middle of it where they just like you could even do a movie that ended with a cliffhanger and it was really good. And then they just never made another one for whatever reason. Sure. Trying to think of a good example of that. I mean, you guys have Twin Peaks, right? Which was yeah. Okay. Yeah. Twin Peaks did not definitively end, but there's a new one coming out and to be current Samurai Jack. Yeah. No, Samurai Jack is absolutely one of those except for now, which it's not. What do you prefer, whether it ends? Yeah, don't fizzle out. I take the abrupt shut down. Yeah, just shut it all down because like my brain can handle and I can
Starting point is 03:01:11 compartmentalize that and go like this thing is awesome. It's a shame. It's a fucking tragedy that never wrapped up. But if it wraps up and it just goes way the fuck down, then you start to dislike the thing as a whole because it affects and makes something that makes it the previous parts worse. Yeah. When you think back on it, you think negatively instead of positively and then angry that it stops. Where does gravity falls and up because I know it ends and it was perfect. The last episode is an ending. Yes. Okay. All right. They just cut it off. No, no, no, no, no, they're done and I'm happy with that. So it doesn't count as something that ended abruptly. Well, here we go. Reboot. Yes. There could have been more there. There wasn't.
Starting point is 03:01:57 And nothing else is coming out, right? Let us know in the comments if there's more reboot coming out. I don't think we, no one knows. Yeah. So no, abrupt is I can handle it, but it's- Did beast wars end? Did beast machines end? Yeah. With an ending? Cliff, I don't know. I never stuck around long enough. Yeah, I know you hate beast machines. Fucking watery explosions. Get out of here. Get out of here, water explosions. All right. Dear super best friends, I feel compelled by a higher force to ask you, in your River City ransom underground, you fought, text the Edge weapons master who's holding a knife with a baseball bat. Now you should know where I'm going with this. Which side of the debate do
Starting point is 03:02:37 you fall on? It has torn houses apart. Knife versus bat. I don't remember this being a big controversial. If you're yet not really, but assume your street beat him up guy, then you got to choose your weapon of choice. Pros. Yeah, let's go pros and cons. Knife, I'll fucking cut you. Yeah, I can stab you. I can throw it. I can- Now it's hard to throw a knife. It's hard to throw it and then it's gone. And then you're fucked. We're not, but that's a con. I'm just doing the pros. Pros, I can cut you. Pros, I can stab you. Yes. Pros, I can- Poke out your eye. I can chirp. But pros, I can swing it around real fast. It's light. It's light. I can throw it. I can toss it between my left and right hands.
Starting point is 03:03:24 Yes. And that makes me look really cool. You look- Generally, you look cool with a knife. I can lick it. I can- You can lick it and it is a scary way. Yeah, I can look like a big cool badass. There's an intimidation factor to a knife that few weapons have. Yeah. And it causes bleed effect. Yes, it will cause damage over time. Easily. Backstabs, fantastic with a knife. Excellent for backstabbing. Yes. Okay. All right, so cons. Any other- No, I think that's good. Okay. Cons. If you throw it away, you lose it. If you throw it away, you lose it. Range is low. Range is very low. You have to close the distance to get it in there. Yeah. If you plunge and stab it in, unlike the movies, you have to get that out. Oh,
Starting point is 03:04:08 if you are clumsy, you will cut yourself. If you're clumsy, you will cut yourself. Trying to look cool, especially. You can't hit yourself. Trying to lick it or trying to bite it, you might fuck up. Say, hey, if you're biting it. If you're trying to intimidate a guy. If you're trying to intimidate someone with a knife in your teeth and the guy just punches you in the mouth. Oh, it's a huge weak point. Oh, that's bad. You can stab someone's eye out, but you can stab your own eye out. You can. I have. All right. Bats. Bats. Pros. Range. You will fuck anybody up, usually with one hit. You can block it, but they're taking all kinds of damage through that. They're getting a bruise. They're getting a bruise. Range. Range. Better range
Starting point is 03:04:55 than a knife. Okay. Pros. Donnie Donowitz, the bear Jew. Understood? Durability is high. Yes. On a bat, depending on the situation. When you dent a metal bat, when you dent a Louisville slugger. Is this wood or are we talking metal? I'm talking. Well, this is what I'm saying. Okay. This is where I'm going. Yeah. Because you can get knife types, right? Yes. You can get like knives. So raided, right? Or like our brass knuckle knives, right? But if you dent a metal bat, the dent just powers the bat up. Yeah, it doesn't. Because yeah, now you've got a sharp point on it. A knife gets fucked up. And it's done. That's it. It's done. The durability is low on knives. Another. Wow, we're going in there. I didn't think we'd. Yeah. Yeah. Higher durability though,
Starting point is 03:05:43 in general, but the wooden bats, maybe not so much. It'll splinter off and go crazy, but whatever. Again, another pro, I think it should at least take up another two slots. Donnie Donowitz, the bear Jew. Yes. That takes up another two slots. Okay. All right. So I can think of a con that if you do block. Bad girl. Bad girl. Bat boy from paranoia agents. Shonen Bato. Shonen Bato. I can think of a con if someone blocks a bat, they can easily grab your bat. Yes. If someone tries to stab at you with a knife, it's hard to kind of block, get rid of that. Con, you can't. You have to take one long swing and then it will. You have to wind back up. It's slower. It's way slower. Your reaction time. Momentum is only effective coming in that first
Starting point is 03:06:32 time. You can't really swing. The back swing on the bat is going to be weaker. And you'll tie yourself out swinging a bat and missing. Whereas like you have a little more stamina if you're just ripping around a knife. I'd not like to imagine. Pro, one head shot and it's over. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I'd say the, your chances of a crit are high. Yeah. Again, a knife to the throat, but you have to sneak that in. And that's like necks are small pros slash cause easy to get a bat. Easy to get a bat. Right? You get a knife. Yeah. But it's easier to get a bat. Pro, if you swing that shit hard enough, the raid two will happen. It could, it can happen. Con, if you swing that shit hard enough, the raid two will happen. Yes.
Starting point is 03:07:27 Okay. In the end, I think that might win. I'm going bat. I'm going bat. Now, to be fair, I threw all that shit out for nunchucks. The real weapon. Listen, I mean, no flaws. Tell me a flaw. Impossible to hit yourself with a nunchuck. And I have not done that. Regardless, we're going bat. Yeah. Bruce, Bruce made it so. Yeah. Batman beat up a predator with a bat and Batman versus predator comic book. He beat the shit out of predator with a baseball bat. I'm going to say, I'm going to say bat. I'm going to say bat. Like it's hard. The risks are greater for swinging it. But the, but again, like chances are, they're probably not going to evade on it. And you can recover your stamina by the time it takes you to back off. When you thought
Starting point is 03:08:18 of knife in your head, what, when we're talking about this, what was your vision of the knife? My vision of a knife is a like an army dagger. Really? I was thinking of pretty good switchblade that was like, I don't know, six inches long. I wasn't thinking of like a Rambo. I was thinking Rambo. I was not. I was, I was, I was shoving that down a bit. That can only be so many things. Yeah. But yeah, I was thinking of like a nice pocket knife or something, or like a steak knife. I say bat wins. What if you had a butcher? Well, now we're getting into different classes, right? It's a knife. And we got a weapon. Yeah. But you have to go talk to Andre. He had to submit that for a while. Like, come on. All right. Fair enough. You know, that was good.
Starting point is 03:08:59 What are we doing here? I enjoyed that. What are we doing here? Try we try to get a podcast. What about a nunchuck gun? We try to get a podcast that or what? All right. Imagine the possibilities of the nunchuck gun. That's bro, it's broken. That's not that's unfair. All right, nerf that in the womb. You're very serious. Come on. I got a new nunchuck gun. All right. This one, I'm going to direct straight at you. Okay. I am the only other person in the room. So they're super major as amigos cast. Oh, major friend cast, major friend cast, the best friends. pitch your lucha underground video game. Okay, I was thinking about something similar to this, but it could definitely apply lucha underground.
Starting point is 03:09:43 It'd be very much similar to the Jeff Jam games where you have a big huge cinematic story mode. I think you should absolutely have the option to make your own lucha for this mode or be able to select like, let's say, six to five to 10 guys from the main roster to also go through the story mode because it sucks if it's one way or another. I want to make my own guy, but I also want to be able to play as Johnny Mundo or Prince Puma or whatever. So a gritty art style, lucha underground is colorful at the same time or the things, but have all the voice acting from the the wrestlers got to have stiff shitty promos from the guys that give shifts to the shifts to the promo shifts. Yes. I'm going to say it should not play like ackee at all. It should
Starting point is 03:10:45 play like if the close to ackee play is like that jam fight to New York specifically because that's much, much faster than regular ackee engines. I'm kind of leaning it towards more playing like the SmackDown games just because of the speed. Tons of environmental interaction. You can go anywhere in the arena. You can find the crowd, stuff like that. I don't think graphically it needs to be amazing. I think keeping up the fluidity, framerate and all that shit. I'd want it to maybe look like, you know, not as amazing as some games might, but I just wanted to to run solid and like as many people in the ring as you can as you can have playable to not disturb performance. Okay.
Starting point is 03:11:35 For me, outside of the ring, telltale. Okay. By that's what's happened. I agree with that. Yep. By default, there are covenants. Okay. You start in Darius. Okay. You have to work your way out. At the work your way out. I can see that. All right. We're going to the story. Okay. There are absolutely trinkets items and magical abilities like things that boost you that can affect your game play. Okay. That's cool. In the ring, in the ring, a system more based on your performance than fighting. So the thing we talk about, which is take that hit. Make an entertaining match. Make an entertaining match. Yeah. Right. Moment of swinging back and forth. And then whoever your covenant is will reward you based on your performance.
Starting point is 03:12:27 And you need results to happen and you can kind of go against the story of the kayfabe. Yeah. Okay. But the more you go against the kayfabe. The game just says game over. The more yeah, the more you're not, it's not exciting, the worse it is. Right. Right. Metaton fight had some like get the ratings by doing these things. Yeah. That's true. That's true. Right. Now, dude, now it's time for your comeback after you take a few bumps. Yeah. The con button. Yes. I could see a system based more along those lines where because you have that freedom and you're trying to perform it that way, you don't need to have actually like, you don't need to have a camera or anything that's kind of like a traditional wrestling camera. Okay. You could even, you could
Starting point is 03:13:03 go a bit, you can experiment with it. You can have like grapple moments where you're doing more like a fight night sort of camera where like you're using the stick to kind of like push the momentum one way or the other kind of which move you're going to go with. There's some of those WWE games have like kind of like when you go into involve things like submissions or whatever the camera changes and the gameplay changes to suit the situation. A lot of the times it doesn't work out and they're shitty, but it could work. But the sequence is the most important part. Yeah. It's not about landing the punch. It's about like you land the punch, he lands the punch, you land the punch, you go to the back and forth, you do the back and
Starting point is 03:13:37 forth, builds the crowd up, then you chew, then you have them, you know what I mean? You finish it off in a way that makes your performance like exciting. And that is kind of how you progress is by performing well and doing good work, doing good business, as opposed to beating the guy's life down and doing your, your special. Right. But so let's say we're with Daria and Daria says like, Hey, I want you to lose this match against the cage. So if you lose the match, then Daria was happy with you. Right. Yep. And if you get paid, you have money, you can go buy some trinkets. If you win, yeah, you get paid less money. Absolutely. Okay. All right. That's good to know. Absolutely. It's harder because you're not getting as much money.
Starting point is 03:14:19 Now you have to go get those abilities and stats and then whatnot some other way. Okay. Where do you find these trinkets in the basement? Those are like a free roaming thing in like the hallways. If you deepen your covenant with Johnny Mundo with faces, if you decide to decide with Conan and Puma and that crew, like everybody's got their own like different special things they can give you for being part of the crew. If you join up with the Dario's guys and you're loyal to them, you can get big Rick and his crew with you. Yeah. You get the ability to call in them for backup at points. You know what I mean? You can go places with this. Yeah. Yeah. Like we played
Starting point is 03:15:01 Triple A Heroes Del Ring, which is basically what it was before it like evolved into what it is. And that where you could select from, from Ruto's and like heroes like just like from villains. And I don't, I forget what it affected, but you had distinctly two different storylines or something like that. And that game was okay, but like there was some fucked up things about it. And it's like, I don't know how profitable, how successful Lucha Underground is, but it's like, I'm afraid it'll just never get to that level where they're like, let's make a video game. Like it's never possibly not. I'd love to be surprised. It would be like a mobile game at the very least. It would be up to, well, it's not TrumblMaker Studios, but it's 17 different organizations that give us Lucha.
Starting point is 03:15:40 Halfway through the story mode. Yeah. You discover that every wrestler you defeated gave you souls and you have a secret currency that you didn't know about. Like Lucha Insight. So you go against Dario and it fucking sucks at first because you don't have money, but you have the souls of the defeated wrestlers. Okay. And now that's even if you're like a regular dude. And if you, well, I mean, depends on which way you go with it, but the only place to spend that currency would be with some sort of ancient Aztec wrestling god, perhaps that show up in those, in those cut scenes. Ogre. Right. And a place where you can spend these arcane points. Okay. You know what you should be able to do as an optional mode is like create a promo. Absolutely. They give you generic FMV
Starting point is 03:16:30 footage and like little bits and transitions. No name people. Yeah. And then you put coming soon exclusively to Lucha Underground. That would be tight. That would be tight. 100%. That would be to create a promo. Don't fuck your promo up. Yeah, no, exactly. Well, just in your promo package, just your FMV hybril. Absolutely. And then like maybe like actually have like, you know, well, they don't do that in Lucha, at least up until I watched, they don't really say how did you feel about your match? I want you that they replaced that with the backstage drama. You sit down in the ring with Vampiro and he goes where they do that. Vampiro interviews and he grabs the mic and he goes, Mr. McMussles. Yes. What is the nature of a man
Starting point is 03:17:11 and holds the mic out to you and you get 80 options to pick from? At least four. But yeah, no, that'd be tight. That'd be like, that's where Mass Effect we have conversation trees and wheels. This is where we go. Okay. I hope that answered your question. I think we answered it good. Oh, right. That's good stuff. What's coming up? What's coming out? What you're looking forward to? What's coming out? What's coming out for us this week and is PAX East. We are going to be doing that autograph signing at the screenwave booth Saturday at 4 p.m. Okay. So that's that for us for this weekend. I hope I can catch Logan before we head out to that because it's not going to be any time. Yeah, I'm going to sneak in. I'm going to sneak
Starting point is 03:17:55 in. Get out. Get out. Yes. On Tuesday. Aside from that Blaster Master Zero from Inti Creates comes out on the on the switch this week, Friday. I want to check that out. In addition, I'll be playing Zelda all week, I'm assuming. That's it for me in terms of what I'm looking forward to. Obviously, the switch. I think the, you know, the big fucking, like, I know I heard that near-automata preloads are up on PS4 now. Yeah, I think that comes out today. So you can get those going. I don't think I'm going to download that, but I don't think I'm going to touch until Zelda is done or I want to break from it. So are you going to catch up on the story or are you just going to go in? I just going to go in. Okay. There's too much. Okay. I'm going to try to catch
Starting point is 03:18:46 up. Okay. That's no wall. Yeah. But I'm, you know, I'm kind of short cutting it a little bit. But you gotta. Yeah. No, I'm going to watch the LP. Yeah. And, you know, I mean, Drinking Garden and such, like I can just check out some videos for and such. I want to have some contacts as opposed to zero. It looks too good of a game to not to miss out on like some of the parts of it that are going to be rewarding if you knew what was being implied and what's coming in advance. I think Kong Skull Island comes out this Friday too, but I probably won't even be able to do that until like next week. And I vastly am like, this needs to be entertaining. This needs to succeed for Monsterverse to continue with a good forward momentum because while Godzilla was kind
Starting point is 03:19:33 of divisive, it made a lot of money. So I just hope Kong like does well and either critically or commercially just so like, you know, this keeps rolling. And in terms of the channel this week, everything that's continuing is continuing. We might have some new quick looks on things. Maybe some of them Kong related. We'll see. There's some of the, oh, we'll say it's all the box art critique should be happening tomorrow on Tuesday. Yep. It's a good one. I'm going to be, I'm going to be well, whatever, like I'm putting out, obviously, like Willy versus stuff is coming Tuesdays and Saturdays. Yeah, Tuesdays and Saturdays exactly. So we're going to have some rinky dink shit for you tomorrow. And on Saturday, a new show
Starting point is 03:20:21 type is being released. So there's a rotation of content. Oh, I was thinking about this. Would you want to announce we had a lot of comic book, a lot of dumb comic book. Hold it. Hold it. Hold it. So some folks are also saying that for the purposes of catching up on your watching the Clemsk videos and then super bunny hops would be a good idea. Thanks for the suggestion. Unfortunately, you're not subscribed from him. So you're going to have to subscribe again. I'm still subscribed. In fact, I double subscribed. So yeah, let me make sure to do that. All right, good. And I don't know about you. Don't know about me. But there is a graphic novel
Starting point is 03:21:05 about Spiderside that I really need to get into. Did this just come across your desk now? No. What I'm saying, we need to get some work done. We need to catch up on our Spiderside lore. Because like, quite frankly, there's been too many empty pushes here. Yeah. Yeah. Empty pushes. Yeah. I mean, look, you can only Roman Reigns it for so long. Speaking of which, there was a thread on the squared circle where they're like, here's what all the pros have to say about Roman. And everybody, like that people love all the legends, like everyone is coming out and going, this dude's a good worker. He's really solid in the ring, amazingly talented. It sucks that the reaction that the crowd has to him is because
Starting point is 03:21:48 of Vince's. Yeah, no, like no one is not his fault. It's the fact that the company's pushing him. No one's ever any any doubt about that. The problem is, is that even me knowing that fully, I'll boo the shit out of him because that's all I can do. Right. Being in the audience. Right. And unfortunately, that's the only way you let them know that you do not like what you're doing with this guy. He's a good worker, but he didn't earn it seems to be what the sentiment is. Shot to the moon real fast. In the meantime, yes. Bonfires will be lit by Randy Orton. God. Oh, man, that was great. That was that was super solid all around. That was great. I am so confused with his story that I don't know why he's with them and I don't know what's going on with Randy Orton,
Starting point is 03:22:35 but whatever. It's exciting. Yeah. All right. And like I said before, I'm going to hopefully finish up Night in the Woods this Wednesday on my twitches. Sick. All right. So so we have spider side boning up to do. We have some spider side boning up to do. We got we got we can't we do. I got to masturbate to some fathom. We've been posing too long. We got to get the god legion up to snap. Legion. Yeah. And I don't even remember the name of that fucking blood screen. Shut up. You shut up. I don't want to know about your stupid. I was going to show you the picture. You're going to you're like fuck off. I will not like him. You're full of shit. That's a podcast. Thanks.

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