Castle Super Beast - SBFC 203: Unapologetic Night Court Theme (feat. Stop Skeletons From Fighting)

Episode Date: June 27, 2017

Recorded live from Too Many Games in Philly. You can watch us record the podcast live on twitch.tv/superbestfriendsplay

All right, that's as good a way to start as any is it. I it never is but like that's what let me know we're going Okay, well, yeah, were you okay? I'm okay. Oh, you had a you had a vicious fight last night took a lot out of me. It's fine. It's okay. Hey, well, well first of all context. This is not a normal podcast. This is a podcast coming from Philadelphia. Yeah, so or an hour away from it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, this isn't actually Philly is it Raider Philadelphia area. This is Valley Forge or Oaks or Phoenixville or Kings of the Prussia. How is there a place in America named Kings of Prussia? Can anyone explain that? We must be standing in a place where like seven counties in together like when you ever you go block that way, you're in Kings of Prussia, and you're in Valley Forge. At each of the corners. Is there like a statue of a Lord of that place? Yeah, saying inward, so that that is where all the Kings really lords what what what is the terminology here? How did we get to

this? It's like lords of Pennsylvania. They're like this cabal of vampires. Okay. Yeah. No. Oh, and when the constellations align, it all of the statues come to life. Yeah, on a blood moon. Yeah, exactly. Oh, if a moon comes crashing down, all the statues move. Amazing. But mysterious voices. Huh? What? Don't get spooked. What's up? Hi. I'm Derek. I'm Grace. We're from Stop Skeletons and fighting. Yeah. Is that is how we do those interests? Yeah, that I do. That was that was exemplary. That was succinct. All right. Awesome. And we want to have you guys on because you guys are cool. And we had a good time when we met up over it. The Portland game retro game. Yeah. And I'm sorry about that haunted pizza place that wasn't so haunted. Yeah, many apologies. So had an atmosphere. I mean, they were they were going for something and it didn't deliver but the pizza was still really good. It was supposed to be haunted. That's what it was called. It was called ghost pizza. Trip

advisor said most haunted place in Portland. Maybe a bunch of people did die eating this pizza. We don't know. And frankly, we don't want to know. Yeah, we all live through it. And strength, strength in our friendship. Yeah. But that's all thing. If you're dying, pizza can power your body for over 30 minutes. Yeah, like so that's just at least but speaking of living through things. Yeah, I guess what? Well, it's really simple. There's no, I don't know. We need to like embellish and you know, to be something that it's not about me. My middle name is embellished. But quite simply, you know, we went for a night swim. Matt, myself, Liam and one Fred Wood. Yep, we enjoyed as well as Mika, like Mike was there. And we played Austin ball in the pool. That was a good time. And like after that was my first time in the pool with you. Okay. Oh, I won't forget it. All right. Very nice. Guys, that's beautiful. Because I put people to work. Like

you did. We're passing around the ball and no one's spiking it or hating it or bouncing it properly. And then you started smashing it. Let's play some water sports. Okay, no, wait, hold on, wording, phrasing. Let's play some like, you know, sports that you do in the water. Let's do fun things. Exactly. But more importantly, no. So after that, we were all we all we all got gas. I got gas to we were tuckered out went to bed. And I had a hard time sleeping. I also did. I was trying to keep one eye on God damn it. The crimson peek was on to I was trying to keep an eye on Crimson peak. And then like I was like, I'm so tired. No, no, you you did not like a shrieking ghost attack someone. And yeah, yeah, I tried. It's not a great move. And you know, like I woke back up and hostage was on. And I was like, Oh, really? Yeah, I was gone by then. But like around five in the morning, just apropos of nothing, a beetle

just dropped onto the bed. I like how it's like he was ninjaing on the ceiling and dropped down. I can't it's I can't say for sure that it dropped or that like, my eyes just caught it. Yeah, or like it just started to exist at that moment. I don't know. But I turned my head and it appeared that a beetle dropped onto the bed and was working its way over to me. And I freaked the fuck out and got up and it was like and I'm like first of all, it's a large dark shape. And I'm like, is that a spider? Is that a like water bug? Is that a whatever? When when did the realization hit that this yes, this was a dangerous beetle when I touched it when I picked it up with my I picked it up, like because it was right near my head. So when I was lying down and open my eyes, I saw it and I grabbed it immediately. And I felt it and it was hard. And I looked at it and I'm like, that's a beetle. That's not any other

kind of weird house bug. Um, and then I kind of went, okay, like I threw it on the like non sheeted part of the I'd love it if you threw it on my bed. That would have been an ace move. But I would have been terrified and haze you from like, that was an ace move though, man. Good prank, Rob. Yeah, that was good. And no, and I threw it, I threw it down there. And then like, I got up to like grab like some tissue or something to just like properly dispose of it or whatever. And like the only thing around was the one from the stupid like utensils package. So I grabbed that and that's just all thin and folded on itself eight times. So basically, you

know, this thing several times, yeah, I was going to just toss it or flush it or whatever. I don't know, but I like that you're grabbing for various tools and looking for tools like inadequate for no, and I keep looking back to make sure I have an eye on it. And it's approaching like the edge of the mattress. Like shit, there's a countdown timer once it makes it over the edge of that. It's gone. It's gone forever. Like it's out of world. And it can respawn anywhere. Yeah, absolutely. And so like I eventually did grab the tissue ran back to that side of the bed. And it was super over the edge. It was gone. And it was gone in between the mattress and the headboard. Oh, no. So that's where your face goes. Yep. Yep. Yep. Oh, man. But this was five in the morning. And I was super tired. And I'm like, I have to go back to sleep. I can't do anything right now. And I believe and I

eventually like I pulled my three pillows down and created like a perimeter of pillows, made a little base, right? And then I pulled the sheet up and I no longer girls allowed. No. And I laid diagonal where like, if you could have like, like, basically, like, I've have the first quarter of the bed is now no longer my real estate. Yeah. So I'm laying diagonally has it now with my pillow for it. And then I'm keeping my eyes one, at least one eye, like as the other guy's covered by pillow and one eye on the headboard, just to see if this Beatles gonna come back. Because you don't know when or where or how, what means it'll strike. But it will. But eventually, you know, so like, I can't go to sleep for more than like five, 10 minutes without poking my eye back up to look around for the

beetle. And that's how I slept for the rest of the morning. Beatles shouldn't have gone in Matt's bed. You should have gone in Matt's bed. Oh, it's pretty safe. It might maybe. It's comfy and format. But yeah, I, you know, like, for my part, I wake up and I look at the clock right next to me and I see it's like five something. And I look and I see just really kind of stomping around the bed, just doing something. And I'm just like, what the fuck is this motherfucker doing? I'm like, I guess that's really early. And I thought, you know what I thought? I thought he is pre packing. Woolly is thinking ahead. What a guy pre packing all of this stuff. And I go, what else could it be some type of insect? Yeah, there's no way. Yeah, I went back to battle. Like he can do that. I'll go back to sleep. And whatever that like, whatever that was to you, like, it

clearly was like part of a dream or a forgotten memory. You told me because that completely didn't believe me. He's like, no, no, you're full of shit. Fuck you. You know, and I'm like, no. And he's like, okay, wait, no, I do remember waking up and hearing some stomping. I heard the sounds of battle. I was like, you're a silly boy. You had a silly dream. That's all that was. I was like, Joe's got a beetle, man. So yeah, we met up with Matt for breakfast. We're like, oh, where's Woolly? He went fighting beetles. I wanted to ask for context, but that was enough. It's like knowing that Santa Claus isn't real. Like, don't break the fantasy. I knew you'd find out the real the real deal story right now. God, man, many, many stories from the front. Yeah.

War's Hell. I don't like that. I don't like that. For all I know, it's still there now. It's still there waiting for the next person to terrify them. But anyway, it's like the ring, though, you give away that VHS tape, you just move on. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you think you like avoided the curse? I mean, like the curse of the big bad people are getting in your nose. And then again, like, it managed to retreat. And like, I think we mutually retreated from each other. Yeah, maybe not if you ask this situation. Exactly. It just probably fell from the ceiling. I was like, Oh, God, it's a person. Oh, God, yeah. No, I think you cut your losses. It was like, it was like, like Akuma and Ryu, like we respect each other's power. Yeah. And we're now

going to go our separate ways until the battle begins anew. Yes. The answer lies in the heart of battle. Time flows like a river and history repeats itself. It's you know, it is what it is for now, Philly Beetle. It is what it is. I'll be back. All right. Yeah, so I feel like shit. Yeah. And that explains it. That's a really good reason. Yeah, like, like you didn't see like, I kept waking up at like every hour after that, I wake up at six, wake up at seven, wake up at eight, then you start, I believe you started either kicking my bed or kicking me, because my alarm was going off and I wasn't reacting to it. And I remembered little pushes coming from somewhere. And my like John Cena fucking ringtone version from from wrestling is like, I gave it like two minutes. And

then I'm like, okay, get the fuck up. So I got up and met with you guys slowly about about the Beetle battle. Yeah. That that that was the start of today. So how's your con bit so far? It's been good. It's been really good. Yeah. This is your first this is your first TMG. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. So flew out, got a panel going, sell some t shirts. I grab one of your t shirts, because I'm like, I just design I can't I can't resist it. When we when we got this I'm back from the artists, because we went to fan gamer with like a like a thing. And they were just like, we'll send this to people who will fix this story. This is very cute guys. We'll look at this the professionals. And they gave it to the the person who did like their Crypt of the Necro dancer. Oh, my God. You mean

like my favorite t shirt of all time. Nina Matsumoto. Okay. Yeah. What an amazing artist. Yeah. Yeah. We saw that shirt was like, we need to make the channel a lot better. We actually did get some comments on like on like Twitter and stuff like that. Like, you know, I'll buy your shirt. I have no idea who you guys are. So it was like, what YouTube channel deserves a shirt this good? It's like, you know, that's a compliment. I'll take that one. That's all right. It's fair. So for the viewers at home, it's like, it's like a skeleton with red flaming eyes coming out of blue flame. And he's holding like a joystick. No, his face is like a D pad. Yeah, he's got like purple and blue flames coming out. And he's kind of reaching at some rad 80s. I used to wear like a

little set of PJs that look like that. And I have to go to church one day wearing it. I don't want to talk about it. Anyway, I can't be hanging with that. I'll tell you later. All right. I've told how many church stories on the podcast. Okay. And you're pushing. All right. So I'm wearing my flaming flaming skull who had rad 80s glasses on with sharp triangular ones. Yeah. And it says, all trespassers will be executed. And it's bright blue. And it's like, it's not a onesie. It's like a little shirt, a little pair of pants. And I'm going up there. I'm going to a priest. I don't know why I don't remember going on to there. And the priest is going, that's a very interesting outfit, young man. Yeah. And I walked off like I had to go up to him. I don't know anything about

those churches. I had to go up to him. I had something had to happen. Yeah. And then I walked back down. And then my mom told me this, I don't remember saying I told my mom, mom, Santa Claus really liked my outfit. Very good. So that's my church. That's the only one I got. Great story. I know, I know. Being fun. Trust passers will be prosecuted, prosecuted, not execute, execute a little hard. Trust passes will prosecute. I don't know what that means in the context of child's fucking sleepwear, but whatever. Executed made more sense. That's a little more church like, you know, executions or, you know, they talk a lot about that. They do, they do. So yeah. And yeah, so yeah, you, you just, you sell out of shirts? No,

no, this is our, this is our first time really doing this. And I think we, we didn't bring triple XL shirts. And now we realize we should have brought triple XL shirts. Sometimes that's me. I'm that guy that goes, you got a three X up in there? No. All right. Also, we didn't sell any smalls. Yeah. But no, yeah, we got some money and, you know, like met a lot of people and, you know, stop scale is defining as the rebrand that used to do the happy video game nerd. And it's kind of a humbling moment when people are like, what, you, whoa, what are you doing here? That's neat. Well, but then they're like, what, you're still around? I'm like, dude, I've been putting out shit. You've got name change, name change, but the content did not stop coming. If anything,

it's actually picked up. So hopefully they go back to the channel and go like, damn, well, cancel my plans. The next day's got to do some very, very occasionally someone will come up to me and be like, Oh, I remember your like cartoon flop house videos when I was taking the cartoons of Double Dragon and Street Fighter. And I was just making little combinations of them. And someone comes up and says, I was watching that. I don't really like this video game stuff you're doing. And I'm like, I stopped after that. But when I found out you're still here, I was like, Oh, like good job on those cartoons that required no effort. But you know, you got to take it where you can. If that's their line, fair enough. No, no, exactly.

If you like cartoons, you don't dig video games. That's cool. I do. I do like it because it makes me go, Oh, I remember those days. Not a care in the world, you know? Well, it's also super awkward because I'm not, I'm more of a producer role on the channel. So no one knows who the fuck I am. I'm just hanging out and people like, Oh, it's nice. You brought your sister. No, there are a couple of like the girl fans of which we have a few, you know, they look at me, but then they say, Oh my god, you're here. They're just like, lock eyes with grace. And I'm like, I'm ready. Girl, this is your time. Yeah. And so like, that's really fun too. And, you know, but like really, it's like really

meeting people because we haven't been to like a big convention in like been a part of it. We since Portland. Yeah, like Portland will even like this one. We came with stuff and had a booth like we've gone and hung out with friends and just like, you know, been around people. But this time was like, we're going to go here. We got a set up shop. And this is about the same size or slightly bigger than Portland. Like in terms of the very similar. Yeah, it's about the same. I never went to the arcade area. So I think that might be where it switches up. But it's definitely big. I should have got on that time crisis for free play fucked up. Like that's one thing is like we're going to talk about the the game room. Like, you know, they had the standards, right?

They always have their those awesome Astro City candy cabs with like a bunch of fighting games in Japanese style cabinets and stuff crazy stuff. Yeah, you're going to have your your third strike. You're going to have your super turbo like 3d game that 2d 3d game. Yeah, 2d playing. Yeah, that was that was that was that was a fake stay night. Okay, I didn't recognize unlimited codes. I think it's goes into the game. But it was the PS2 one. Right. So that was the arcade version before the. Okay, right. I spent a bit of time on that. And while I played the original, I played the PS2 one, I didn't like it that much. I had a bit more fun with this just going into it, I guess, with a fresh take, fresh eyes on it for some reason, I had a bit more fun. Yeah, I don't know.

Anyway, but like, what was a bummer was there was no like setups with BYOC stuff that had like any modern fighting games going or anything. Yeah, all the console stuff just the most recent thing they had was like Tekken 3 running on a PS1. And then there was like injustice tournaments going on. There wasn't an injustice tournament. There was a Marvel 3 tournament. Yeah, but outside of tournaments, free play. Yeah, nothing. And I was like, I was in the mood, like, and a bunch of people came up and like, yo, let's do some sets and whatever. And I was super down. What? Well, because that's it. Like, I want to play Rev 2. I want to play Tekken 7. I want to play all these games that I'm like learning right now. And like, I want to play other people to like, you know,

get better at it, right? You know, have the itch. And I came down here like fully looking to play as much as possible. And there was nothing. You know, we even like, I found one of the guy that like he had controllers and a copy of the game with him. And he's like, just find me a console. And like, we walked around the whole thing. Nothing's crazy. Yeah. And there was the injustice machine was sitting there and they were done using it. And the next thing up was like a Wii tournament thing. And we're like, can we just use this? And I was like, no, sorry, we're not. All right. So a bit of a bummer on that on the game room this year a little bit. Did you end up jumping in on some Tekken 3? I didn't jump in on Tekken 3. I ended up playing

Fate Stay Night. And I played KOF 97. This that's the version they had. And we're like, we're we had a lot of fun matches on it. But we're all just like, man, I wish this was 98. Oh, well, you know, it is what it is. Yeah, I don't really play anything. But I saw the Sega it said Sega Golden Gun game. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Was that a brand new, not brand new, but an obscure like gun shooter? Or was that some type of compilation of shooters that Sega made? Because it looked like House of the Dead or a house of the dead. But I saw no marquee. It just said Sega the Golden Gun. I've seen it before. I think it's just an obscure shooter. Because I wanted to play that but there was a line. Yeah, you're shooting dragons in the sky.

That's awesome. Hey, what? Yes. Yes, exactly. Yes. And if you want to talk about Golden Guns, there was a Golden Gun that showed up inside of an Attaché case. Oh, here we go. Elemental Gear Bolt. Whoa. The Assassin's Case. Holy fuck. Someone had a copy. How much were they selling it for? $6,000. Damn. I've been reading something. There are maybe less than a hundred of those that were ever made. 150 total, ever. And some of them are like the spray painted gold memory card versions. And some of them are the press kits. But either way, they're not numbered, but they're literally 150. That's nuts. That's great. That's a great game, too. Yeah. And so I'm like, that's it. Like Liam, he found it and then told me about it. I walked

over and saw that and just stared. And then I'm like, I'm just going to stop this conversation entirely because that's a decent car with less than a hundred K miles on it. That is a down payment on a good car. That's a decent car, right? What are you even thinking about? That's not much far from how much I paid for my used car. That's what I'm saying, right? But do you even care about Elemental Gearbot? No, I do. I care. But what I mean is, is like not to the point of needing that collector's case, because that type of thing to me would be for like, I'd have to care about it, like I care about Shoefighter, you know what I mean? Like, I don't care about Elemental Gearbot, I don't care about it. Okay, but then I just mean like, because I've heard you talk about the

collector's item and the exclusiveness of this, but I've never heard you talk about the game. Because that's the thing, is it like, it's just a joke of it. Like, we never see this at a car. That's what I wanted. And then there it was. So we're like, what the fuck, you know? What is the, so this guy is just bringing this, not, you know, obviously he's, no one's going to buy that. As a joke. Yeah, basically just to check me out. The thing about him was, because I asked, because he had that entire shelf of stuff that was worth a ton. And like, that was actually for sale. He was like, if someone wants to make an offer, I'm willing to sell it. And the thing is that too many games in particular has like, I don't know what it's called, but like the scene

of people that do these like specific game collectibles where they track the sales from person to person. And they know, like they have reputations where they go, oh yeah, that guy, I know for sure that his thing is legitimate or whatever. Like they too many games is a place where people do make these kinds of purchases. There is lots of rare stuff here. And so, you know, like it would come to a place like this over, I don't know, like a random other con, because like sometimes that audience shows up. This is the first time we've seen it in person. In person, yeah. With our own eyeballs. And I mean, and alongside that, he had, you know, Nintendo World Championships mint perfect condition that he got. Not the reproduction. Not the reproduction. How much was it? The original

worth $55,000. That's the real one. Five figures now? Five figures. As I think when Pat the NES punk bought his, I think he bought it for a couple, like large four figures. Yeah. But that was, you know, about a decade ago now. So we've, we've, we're in the five figure range. And this is, this is a perfect mint. Yeah. At this point, that's even like a perfect mint box. Like those have got to be like in the teens. Hey, I would like to trade my house. I can, I can live under the game. Like your entire like, you know, pay at a decent job or whatever. I saw, I saw a really neat exclusive item never heard of the punch out we championship box. It's a complete box, a little white cube. And inside you get an authentic pair of King Hippo

boxers. When you hit them, they fall out. You get the King Hippo crown that he wears. You get a boxing glove, a little mini boxing glove kind of and something else. And apparently it's just a press kit only thing. And they're charging like a hundred bucks for it. And I'm like, hey, that's it. That actually seems like a pretty good price. Yeah. I've never heard of it ever. That must mean like it, because I adore punch out on the media. That's super cheap for an old collectible press kit. Yeah. Yeah. It was really neat. But like, I was like, eh, no, the other like crown jewel that the guy had was a copy of NBA elite 11 or NBA. I forgot what it's the one that got recalled. Yes. The one that got recalled and doesn't and should not exist. And like he has a PS3 copy.

Again, it's meant unopened. And they're like, yeah, like anyone who got this got it by straight up like ignoring orders and taking risks and risking their job, because they were not only recalling it, they were all supposed to then destroy the copies that existed. That was a rare specimen. This is like, yeah, a unicorn, because they're supposed to destroy them on site. Just take out a fucking machine gun. The employees are trying to break into his house to break to destroy it. Yeah. It's like, it's like the brand, the fucking brand. Yeah, no, yeah, it's guts is brand. If you decide to own this game, you're going to have to fight off for the rest of your life. Those Beatles or Beatles. Yeah. And that that I was like, do you even have a number?

And he's like, I'm not even remotely interested in selling this. Yeah. So I'm like, all right, fair enough, man. That was a cool booth. And then there was the one purchase that I told you about. Yeah. Hey, hey. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, there's because you know, there's the canvas, a pixel art. Yeah, people and whatnot. And so there's SquarePainter and then there's this other guy like eight bit artists. Yeah. And like, there's a fantastic original Samus like wide format, you know, like banner type canvas painting. And it was gorgeous. It was absolutely even looked at a close up and like, it's perfect. It would be an ideal centerpiece in a home that had the space to put it up. That home is not mine.

You still stare at it for a good while. I did because I really because I was like painful because but I had to face the reality of like, this is going to be purchased. I'm going to have a hard time getting it back though. Yeah. And when I do in that pain, it'll then on a wall, not on a wall, it'll be like in a closet waiting for space on a wall that doesn't exist. Maybe you could mount it to your ceiling. So every time you go to bed, just stare up at it. Yeah, maybe you could could have done. You could have actually hung it like suspended from the ceiling. Yeah, you could have actually like, yeah, I have had I have I have pretty high high ceilings, but everything about what's up on the walls now, everything is like

behind a framed glass thing and it's spaced in a perfect way that everything's equidistant. It was Tetris. Oh, no. And like, I used to have a room that was just literally like corner to corner posters, right? Yeah. And now with a new place that I just moved into, I want it to be very like, you know, well done, gallery-esque. And there's just there's no way to like not ruin the aesthetic. Well, do you do it like a real gallery, just rotate it every month? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Put them in storage. Put them in storage. That's the effort. Every season, like this fall, now I'm going to put my fall posters up. What I didn't really like. Samus is such an autumn. What I did really like was one of the front booths as well.

This guy was selling 3D printed models of every game of in-game assets from Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy VII, and some FFVIII stuff as well. And like, I missed that booth. It was kind of tucked into a corner. It's next to the general screenwave area. Yeah. Okay. First one to the right of screenwave booth. And it was, yeah, he was tucked in to a back wall, but really cool, because some of them he printed and pan painted, others he printed with the texture of the character on it. So I bought like a couple of those. Yeah, because to me, I'm like, that's the next level up from like, Perlers, right? Yeah, yeah. Doing the Perler pixel art is like, if people have gotten pretty creative and are doing like sort of like 3D ones now. I like those a lot. Those are cool.

And like, I like how creative people are getting with it. But like, this to me is like the next ever. It's like, okay, what can you do with PlayStation 1 and 64-era 3D? Low poly. Low poly 3D. Looks so cool. And it's so specific, right? Yeah. And like, so like, and I think this is the perfect way to do it is like, you just have these 3D models of like, not even in battle cloud, but like, dumb Popeye arms, squatting cloud. The real cloud. You know, yeah. That's what I think of when I think of that generation, you know, and Chris with his like, basically mom jeans, you know, all of that. Yeah. And then he has a cargo. Yeah, whatever. You know, and Solid Snake and Ninja and a couple of the characters were like, again, the printed texture is just as blurry on

them as it is in the game. Kind of have eyebrows and a bit of a mouth kind of. Yeah. And so and like, when you're looking at it, like, you're like, if it weren't for the sharp edges of reality on the sculpture, this could be an in game model. I'm looking at, you know, that's so good. It's really, really cool. So like, I grabbed a couple of those. And I think that was like, probably my funnest thing, because I haven't seen any, like official companies or studios do anything like outside of the Akira for Virtua Fighter. Akira and Toy. They made Virtua Fighter toys that were blocky, just like the original Virtua Fighter one. Yeah, that's great. That's great. But there were very like one specific line limited to figures type of thing. And I'm like, make more statues

bigger. Yeah, if I could have a wishlist, I think I'd want to rob it from Jumping Flash. No, if I had my brothers, like somebody would remake Jumping Flash, 60 frames, 4k VR, like but not update the visuals at all. I wouldn't be blocking one VR. Oh my God. There's a game called Drunken Robot Pornography. There's a parent thing was a game jam or something like that. Very similar to it. Near as I can tell, it is the only game that is attempted to remake Jumping Flash. Okay. And I don't have a PC to play it on right now. And it's like so kind of obscure and weird. I don't think it ever really goes on sale on Steam. But like, that's my piece. We need more games like Jumping Flash, or just please bring back Jumping Flash. I love the Jumping Flash.

Yes. I'm running for like pixel art, like indie pixel art games to give way to just polygonal shape. Yeah. I think it's just like pixel art. There was an appeal with the nostalgia, but it's also just easier to do. Yeah. I think like maybe like, I don't know anything about game design, but I think at a certain point like polygonal figures is probably easier to make them more complicated because that's how programs are running now. So you'd have to like deconstruct and work harder to make things low poly or just making 3D assets and games is difficult no matter what you do. There's gotta be a reason why low poly hasn't picked up the same way that pixel art did like 10 years ago. It's weird, but like, yeah, no, that's exactly

the truth. The way that like a lot of indie games are coming out now, we move past the era of like, oh, I'm nostalgic for the pixel art. And like, this is awesome to see something that reminds me of that. Like we've had years of that now. Shovel Knight has come and gone and it was incredible. You know what I mean? Like there's even before Shovel Knight, it was still kind of like, yeah, you know, it was it was cool to see another one of those. But like my first reaction to Shovel Knight was like, okay, well, another we're doing it. We're doing it. We've done it. Yeah. And the game game was incredible. But like, it was just like, we're now in a, I guess an age where if you're doing this, it's not just because of the send up like this. Yeah, there has to be

something else because we've all felt that to the point of it's it's it's like flat almost, you know, it's still there, but you're doing something else with your game. There's another reason why you're going for this art style. And that's probably why Shovel Knight was so good, well received because it was all right, you make a Super Nintendo game on this. No, there's some stuff here. No, okay, you got something else going on here. It's not just hey, look, it looks like DuckTales like no, no, come correct, do something fun and interesting with it. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. Did you have a chance to try out any of the games on the the indie indie stuff? No, you know, one of the kind of nice appeals about having a booth this

time was like, we just kind of sat behind the booth and talk with people. I ran out and we both had a couple games we wanted to get but like, didn't spend a whole lot of time on the floor. And I find that's one of the things like walking around and looking at stuff and, you know, talking to people and all that is like, that's really that'll wipe you out. And I feel like I got wiped out this weekend. I think I'm not totally wiped out. Grace and I got a decent amount of sleep. And I think it's because we weren't really hitting the calm floor we got what we wanted on Friday and then just like kind of stay back and just care of business. Oh, I mean, that doesn't happen. We had a booth like with the one time at Magfest, we had like

a corner of the Shark Robot. It was for like two hours. And like, I've always kind of wanted to an opportunity here and there as a reason like, do you want to be at a booth for like a spell? And I've always been like, yeah, I kind of do. But like, then I backed down, but then I realized like one day of the weekend, that would be nice. Because yeah, it does wipe you out really hard. Like, oh, shit, I need to sit down for a bit and feet are hurting. You're standing in lines or standing around people, you're haggling. And it just takes forever. And especially if you're going back and forth between hotels. Yeah, I did that walk. Did you guys do the walk? Or you did it a couple of times? It's like a rite of passage almost. Actually, hasn't been that bad. I remember

last year's sweltering. Yeah. And it's been I'm still not built for this. I had to take my shirt off a little bit and kind of really worried like the back of my neck was going to get just burned. Like I walk outside, take like eight steps like on here to feel it sizzling. Yeah, I didn't have any kind of hat or anything like that. So I think maybe my shoulders got a little nice tan on it, but I hopefully did not burn the crap out of my neck. For real, though, like at cons like this, when I usually don't do the game room, because it's usually like I'd rather go look at the games or whatever. But I always walk through and I'm just like, All right, do they have donkey congas out? Do they have some Tyco drummer out? I just want all the peripherals that I don't have at

I could do some Tyco drummer for forever. Yeah, terrible at it. But you love it. It's so good. It seems that'd be such an easy game. It's surprisingly not. Yeah. There were there were two games that I took a look at that I was pretty impressed by. And I'm like scrolling feverishly to get to the name of one of them. But unfortunately, I can't find it, which sucks. But the people who made it are at a boy games. And it was called like Wisp something. It was the Kirby like it was a Kirby like game. And like, yeah, that is exactly what it is. Oh, man. It's a Kirby like, right? Oh, that's great. That's all about that term now. That's awesome. That is fun to hear out. Let's create it, shall we? Because I love that. I love Kirby games. I still buy them.

Tags on steam. I want to see all the Kirby likes. Kirby likes. Yeah, do this. Get them together. And basically, like it's, you know, it's early on and definitely more of a proof of concept. But, you know, the sprite artist is it's nice. And like what you sort of have is a character that like you are just this little kind of weak, like almost you take one hit and die, like, like a drop of water with like a face on it. You know, you know, element skateboard, by any chance. Now, okay, because yeah, because they have a logo of like just like a fire guy that's like, hey, with a thumbs up and then the water guy, you're kind of like the water guy. And you just you jump into enemies and possess them. And then you get their powers like Kirby,

you know, and like, it's like a fencing spirit. The Game Boy. You're a ghost. But you can take a hit, though. I guess, you know, like so, because I haven't played that. I'm not sure. Yeah. But yeah, then you have like a dash button and the dash is like it acts as a possess as well. And so like, you just jump from enemy to enemy and like learn their moves and make it through each stage, you know. And like, yeah, the enemy types of their moves, some of them are very similar in a Kirby sense to like throw out a blade and it comes back to you, you know, like, like toss up bombs kind of thing. But then there's some really fun ones where like you have this kind of like grappling hook based enemy that like, like zips around as a fireball. And then

like, eventually you find a boss that controls like a weather cloud that like shoots lightning out and you can possess him and then you get his abilities and like, you know, you can fly on his cloud. Like every every character, every enemy has some move list that like has quite a few little bits and odds and ends to it that like, when you possess them, it's fun enough to just kind of dig around playing as that little. Yeah, that sounds really ambitious for like an indie. Yeah, well, that's the thing is it's it's it's not the stages are not particularly long, they're not particularly difficult. And you know, the move list is not like super extensive, you know, but it was fun enough as an idea that like, if this became a full thing, which he's working on,

it would be definitely worth checking out. Again, Atta Boy games, Wisp, something I forget. And then the other one like Atta Boy, I hope their logo is like a cute dog. I hope so too. Yeah, I wasn't able to I don't mean to push you on blast. I'm just trying to that's what I conjure in my head. And the other one, which I think you might have seen, which was in the far back corner was neon cyborg, Yamato. Yeah, neon. Was it neon cyborg, Yamato? Neon something Yamato. And it's like, you basically are using like one of eight cyber neon Krieger, Yamato. Thank you. Okay, very good. Thank you, phone. The this is a video that a game that popped up. We got on Steve Greenlight and you're one of eight like cyborg ninjas. There's like, you know,

your speed, your heavy, your like, long range, like your full like list of, you know, different archetypes. And everyone's got a, like, basic attack button tilts, Smash Brothers type controls, Smash Brothers type specials, where you're tilting up down left, right, advanced throws, launchers, ground bounces, that's when you say ground bounces, ground bounces, combo extenders, dashes, and like triple jumps and things like that. And you're like, okay, there's just tons of maneuverability with each character. And they all have like, you know, unique move lists and things like that where, yeah, you like, you can launch with anybody jump up and do a couple hits, and then ground bounce them. But then what you do after depends on what your character is like, one guy,

like the big heavy can then like tackle do like an air Zangief larry it into a power bomb that bounces the guy back up, which you can I wish I had a chance to play this, I didn't realize so. Yeah, I feel like some of the, like some of the combos look like a bit of Glock of Melee style combat. And it's also like, it varies between like, you know, reasonable challenge to like, crazy difficult at points, you know, there's definitely like Mega Man style, like, stage hazards and lasers that just zip by and it's one touch your dad type of thing. But it's four players co-op on a large arena, right? And you're going through this beat them up slash shooter style stage, you know, and that on its own is like a rare thing. I find there's,

there's a lot of like four player smash likes, but there's not much that are like, co-op on an adventure, fighting a giant boss, you know, like a brawler. Yeah. But again, with some shooting, depending on your character, with like, some like fighting game s mechanics and like some other cool things. But yeah, that too was fun. It had a bit of one main issue was just like the walk speed was really slow, but everything else you're doing is very fast. That's interesting. Yeah. And like, you would like do like really, really far dashes, hold a sprint button and move around the screen. And you're like, like meatboying it a little bit. But when you're not dashing, you're walking really slow and it's dash and perpetuate like just

you can hold sprint, you can do that, you know, but it's just a weird thing to just jump from high octane speeds to then just slow thing with each character so far. And what was the name of this again? Space Neon Krieger Yamato. Cool. Krieger? Yeah, I think that's it. Let's take a quick word from our sponsor. Let's. The super best friend cast this week is brought to us by good ass sleep. Good ass. Thank you, sleep. You help us every day. You know, maybe, maybe if I was on a better mattress, that wasn't the brand of hotel mattress that I had to put up with this week. You know, I'm not going to be able to make assumptions, but I think there's a brand of mattress that repels Beatles. Look, I mean, we can't make claims that don't exist. We can just

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that in. What better way than with the goddamn intro to night court. Fuck yeah. So the best. I believe the night before this panel we're in awesome eruptions room much like we are right now. And it just we're talking about everyone was agreeing how bad the Genesis sound ship is and that's a fact. And Derek you were the first person. You were the first one that was like I agree I agree 100 percent. That's not my recollection. Not at all. But somehow it devolved into fuck you the night court. Because we were listening to like something from police knots I believe. Yeah. Could we got the topic of based sounds based tones and we were talking about whether or not like the kind of fatty like grimy based tone of a Genesis sound ship is good or not. It's subjective

but people who don't like it are wrong. But we just kind of the topic of like lines and then like somebody played a song from police knots which actually has kind of a very funky base. Yeah Liam played that. Yeah. And then I think I just said like man this reminds me of night court. And I lost my shit because I was like I was listening to the night court theme last week literally just out of nowhere. I'm like I want to watch that intro again. I think like you and I both start going like. I mean if we just put the song on. Yeah. And again it's one of those things where if you drop night court in a room that's not expecting it in 2017 three people tops know what the fuck you're talking about. But you will have found your friends. It's walking into the

room and going dental plan and waiting to see what happens. Right. When I was in Florida like a few months ago and I was just flipping through the TV and Leanna's asleep and I'm on the couch like eating some Chippos and I just turned on a few channels and then night court like it started on the night court like main like image where it just says night court in that night. She was the court house and I my chips went flying. I was a night court. It's like even if you've never seen night court. Yeah. People that don't know that song I think by the end of the year. Exactly. Like you like I like this. I'm happier now what happened. Yeah. And I do I like no matter what the activity is super super best. It's great. So that went into

our panel. It's a new intro. You know and and rightfully when we did when it played and we walked into it. How many people reacted to two girls in the front row lost their shit. That's why we do it. Exactly. And everyone else is confused but you pointed them and go they know they understand you know on our level. You know you guys are also doing a service because those people at that panel they went home and they educated them. Absolutely. As soon as I think this is said they had a night court theme I saw a couple of people take out their phones. My body can't stop moving. Our panel went really well. There was two things that were like standouts. One we'll talk about next podcast. Yeah. But the other good one is that we're talking

about the Tony Hawk underground play through. We just have to point out this guy when we were just like yeah you know Eric Sparrow kind of the worst villain in the world. You know Griffith is not that bad in comparison. And then it came to like what if there was a berserk cross Tony Hawk game. Yeah. And then one fan just says band of the hawk. And we all like that guy was amazing. Nailed it. Yeah. I was like you're hired sir. That was pretty good. For something. Additional writing services by that guy. And later I was like because now you know the hot topic of conversation is night court. I then was. I thought you were trying to say like the teen like fucking like scalps. Let's all wear black shirts and like get our eyeliner on and go to the hot topic. No.

No. No no. No. No. No. The actual topic. By some suicide squad merch. Yeah. No no no. Night court. Night court. Yeah. Oh. Topic selling night court. To Naph is done we're back to night court. Because the thing is this one thing. Creamo covers of the song. Just as you want. Okay. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Bunko Pop Night Court. Yeah. Podcast over. Podcast over. No. I'm one of the first memories I have of like things on TV is an episode of night court. I was super young but like all I remember is there's one episode where someone in court opens up a briefcase and a blow up doll comes out. Holy. What? Right. And it's a fully inflated blow up doll that like a Casper map. It folds up out of it. It folds up out of it. And I was fucking terrifying.

Because I was so young that I had no context for what a blow up doll was. Yeah. He thought there was like. And you're not going to. You're not going to get an answer because you don't even have the beginning context. Yeah. To understand why that would exist. Lots of unpacking that question. Where did what? Okay. That's like step eight. You know. Yeah. Yeah. And so like. So Darlington sees this. And my brain just stopped. A person came out of that briefcase. It now froze into a permanent screen. A face weird scary face laying out of that briefcase. It was terrifying. And that was my night court memory. Yeah. That's so good. That reminds me of the ending to Roger Rabbit. No, that's do. And what judge do is run over by the freaking steamroller. Yeah. Right before

the reveal. The spoilers. He's a tune. But he's like trying to push the steamroller back. Like in this vain attempt to like not get crushed. It's horrifying. Yeah. And then the reveal. And then he you know when he yells at him, which I could do the high pitch. I can almost do that. But my voice is kind of hoarse right now. I don't want to kill your mind. Oh my God. It's Jim. Yeah. Oh my God. Also, how amazing is it that they never showed that tune's face? Like just as like as it for me just watching them like man like that. Like it really stuck with me that they only ever showed his eyes and they never actually showed you what he looks like. I think what stuck with me the most was that teacup from the beginning that gets just dipped into the into the. Oh, yeah. It was a shoe,

wasn't it? Oh, was the shoe. I was sure. Yeah. I think he had similar face to the teacup from Beauty and the Beast. So I kind of like this. But it's like a chip little type of character. And I just remember getting dipped in while screaming. And again, young woolly fucking going, oh my God, really? Like we're drawing that now. We're animating this. And it was like suffering as it burnt away. Yeah. Fighting, trying to get a wave. Like, yeah, that's not it. Like slow, painful death, you know, and that stuck with me. Robert Roger. Robert's weird because like I remember that I remember being terrified of that. I remember being terrified of Judge Doom. But also around 12, you know, I'm watching this movie. And I'm like, this is kind of balanced out by, you know, this

character called Jessica Rabbit. I do a great fetching design. You know what? Kind of an obscure character. I'm terrified of this movie. But somehow there's something I'm just compelled to keep watching that smoothing the ride along. And I'm just kind of like, it is definitely fun to watch that as an adult. And like, how did they get away? How did all of Jessica Rabbit go over my head? Like, I just didn't know. What do you mean? What do you mean? How did you not notice them? I don't follow you. What do you? Huh? I grew up and I was like, she has boobs. She has boobs. Wait, what happened? I somehow just didn't get all the chemicals in your body start changing right then. Yeah, something always changes. You go from like, hi, the whoa, whoa.

We all have those fun, awkward moments as teens. So that was not about tweens. That's the after dark. That is the transition. So yeah, our panel went well. Oh, well, well, we had some overachievers. We had some boxy some folks with some, you know, go get a bad attitude. Yeah, very well get themselves over. It was a good time. And yeah, I don't know anything of note for the con that comes to mind for you. I didn't play that many games. I just kind of like hung around with lots of people. There's a couple of like pixel art like Square Painter, you guys know. And just kind of I just went to I think I have all the games. Yeah, yeah. Like there's there's rare oddities. There's Japanese imports and things like that.

But just like I'm looking at PS2 and looking at Xbox, looking at GameCube, looking at PS1. I got something that would actually make my entire N64 library obsolete. So I don't have to worry about that console anymore. But then I'm like looking at everything else. I'm like, I think I have anything that's weird. That's like all like EA games just now get on my face, you know. And everything else. I'm like, I know that one. I have that one. We've played that one. Curiosity purchases. The Curiosity purchase. The ones I told you guys about before, like a place that you can get called Starwinder, The Quest for Outer Space or something. I'm like, I've never heard of this. I'll get that. It's a pretty generic name too. It is. So aside from that,

I just bought like, you know, some Godzilla stuff, a bunch of shirts. And overall it's been like, yeah, too many games is very, very consistently a fun time. Like I've always find some neat stuff here and there. There's one game, however, that is yet that still alludes you that you have not yet acquired from the Curiosity purposes. What is this, sir? One Swagman. Swagman. Yeah. Yeah, you know Swagman. I may have bought that game for some friends as a joke gift, because Swag was a good, was the cool thing about five or so years ago. So you could just give, I bought, I think I bought that game twice. You got big. Haha. Look, Swagman. Yeah. Oh, because I got to give it to my swag man, you know, since it's, I heard. So yeah,

apparently that game is all right though. Which weird is that I thought I knew all of the Eidos Core games. Eidos Core. That's why I freaked out. Ninja Return of Darkness or whatever. And like, the Tomb Raiders Fighting Force. I thought I knew Death Drap Dungeon. More than the name, it was when I looked at the bottom and I saw Eidos Core and went, how did this escape? Yeah. It wasn't even Unholy War that? Or was that, wasn't it Eidos? It was Eidos. Unholy War was Eidos. Yeah. It was a 3DO game first, wasn't it? I don't think that's something else. Maybe. This is the Archon type chest fighting thing, and then it turns into a fighting, I got to read it on the cover. Yeah, it's like a weird

guy. Yeah. It's a weird old brawler. Yeah. It seems to remember an Eidos logo when we were booting it up. We played it on our channel a few weeks ago. Yeah. But no, that's exactly it. I was walking around kind of thinking like, not only is space at a premium, it doesn't exist anymore for me to purchase things and add them to the shelf. I'm really all about digital games now. And I'm really just like observing from a distance, you know? And like even like t-shirts, I'm like, I have no more. I got before this, I went through my entire black shirt collection, which is extensive. I went through it and I was like, no, you're all donations donating these things. So I cleared many, many, many, and I got many, many more in

return. What are the two standouts that we both pointed at and we both bought at the Yeti booth? I mean, the first, the first thing I saw when I walked in was the boot up screens for the PS2 and Gamecube in animation. In animation, so you can't quite, if you know, you know. It's the cube forming while it's rolling and the three lights swirling in the space. Oh, yeah. They're super neat because we stared at them for a while and I was like, oh, I, no, I walked up and bought them and then I told you about them. Yeah. Not the Gamecube one. I didn't get the PlayStation one because it was like, it's a little too obscure. It doesn't look anything. I think it's very cool idea.

But yeah, I know. But of course, like the, as far as the t-shirt problem goes, like, I remember I went out and when I got my new, like, plays and put them up, hang up all my, all my, back, hung up all my shit. I bought 100 hangers and I said, if I finish these hangers, fuck me. I'm an asshole. Yeah. Like, there's no reason for that to be the case. There are literally two boxes on the floor next to 100 used hangers. Oh, wow. It's a problem. How many bad days are in a year? Like, so like, let's think about this. Logically, let's break it down. It's not about logic, though. Yeah, I know. Yeah, I know. I bought Quake for the Saturn.

Okay, so let me tell you about logic. That was my big get for this. I wanted Saturn games. They have, like, three. I want, like, weird Saturn games. That's like my new, like, they're out there. So many of them are like bonkers expensive. Yeah, but like, I want to get the power slave Duke III Quake trilogy because it was all, like, head trick games or something like that. But I trip wire. I said something. I was just playing it the day and I forget. But like, they made this game power slave, which was called entombed. Yeah, it's like an Egyptian theme. It's pretty, it's pretty cool. But the thing is, they made this really neat 3D engine for the Saturn, which did not do 3D very well. Yeah, they actually kind of cracked it.

And so the Duke 3D and Quake ports, like, they built them from the ground up, like completely remade them. And they're some of the best ports of those games for consoles. And I know at least Duke had online play. Okay, I think that's crazy. Let's say I like Saturn Bomberman. And I think there's a second net. Yeah, the little thing you plug in the back there. It was all a second. Yeah, yeah, that's a good story. But I still have that stack of about 20 or so Saturn games that we haven't really taken a look at. Yeah, have a big stack to space Hulk and so on. Yeah, no, I have the Golden Axe, the Duel. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's supposed to be really bad. Yeah. Yeah, hell's yeah. Right. Therefore, perfect. Yeah. And then what was the other one, Beyond Oasis?

Yeah, no, that's supposed to be really good, right? Yeah, yeah, that's supposed to be so. Got to get around to those. Aside from con stuff really quickly, just like beforehand, like... Yeah, that's, well, that's exactly where we're going to go to. Exactly. You're weak. I played shitloads of Friday the 13th. It's real, real bad, not the game, but the situation is generally bad where I'm now playing it with Leanna. She's in the other room. We're shouting advice to each other. She bought an Xbox one headset to communicate with people because several groups are like not allowed into our party. If you don't have a mic because you need to coordinate with people to kill Jason to actually because people want to level up,

you want to level up. So if you come in and you're not talking, people are like, fuck you. You're out. You're out. And if you go to these lobbies, they'll say no kids. You know what kids love to do? Go to places that say no kids. Yeah. Because you'll go and kids are just saying stuff that I'm just like, oh my, no, no, no, this can't... So are you policing them out? No, you can't because we're not, we're not the ones hosting games, but they stay quiet during the lobby sections where everyone can talk. And then when the game starts, they start shouting. Hey, you guys, ready to kill? There's a lot of Irish and British kids are like, let's have a good game, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Boy, you fucks you. It's just strange. It's a very

eclectic group and they had all that. That's the thing that this weekend was a double XP weekend. So I basically missed all of it, but I guess you'll just have to play twice as much. I guess so. And the other things I saw, I was telling you when we were coming in, I saw a movie called It Comes at Night. It's a horror movie starring Joel Edgerton. He's been in a lot of stuff, but it's basically a movie where it's kind of like the last of us where there's a disease, no one has any information about the disease. People are dying very quickly. People are surviving out in the woods with guns, taking water, food, let's just hunker down. And it's just about a family of three, a father, a mother, and a son. And they're just one person comes to their house

one day just thinking it's abandoned. And then they, it's just a tense like, are you sick? Are you sick? No, I'm not. No, I'm not. And just back and forth, back and forth. And then eventually they start getting to know each other. They start trusting each other. But then that trust that breaks down over really nothing. The movie makes it seem like there's threats and there might be, but it does not show you anything, doesn't spell it out. And you're not sure why this tension was really there. They don't show you things and do it very smartly because they don't. Let's say there's someone that's sick. The movie did a great job of not really showing us enough to ascertain whether that person was sick or not. And I'm just like, wow, I don't actually know. And like,

the movie kind of has this sort of ending where you're like, okay, I'm going to think about this for a while. And it was just very, very like, it's a horror movie. And there were some scary bits, but like, it was more like, really the tension of not get out the quiet one, the blind, blind guy. Oh, don't breathe. Don't breathe. Yeah, yeah. It was that that type of like, dread and like, shit, what's honey is unease. Exactly. So in the pantheon of like, zombie style movies, you know, it's like, that that's really the draw is like, how do we, you know, humans are the real monster? You know, how did it hold up with dealing dealing with that idea? See, it didn't it was not heavy handed at all. It was kind of like, everyone was kind of had a point. Everyone was kind of right

in their own way. Because again, we're not shown a lot of information about each person's perspective, just hints about like, what that group is doing, what this group is doing. Plus, it's not zombies. It doesn't even show you that much of what happens to a person. They just look really sick, and they just start oozing. And it's not clear whether they even attack you or become aggressive. The movie doesn't mean show you that. So I'm like, what is this thing? Like, it's almost a thing like, is there a comic book I can read? Is there a graphic novel somewhere? I wanted just a little bit more, but it was very, very good. I recommend it. What comes at night then? That they say never go out night. This door always must remain closed. And there's something out there

they don't show it. That sounds like the type of idea is like, wow, if they could pull this off, that would be great. Is it a low budget excuse set up? Or is it? No, the movie looks like it shot very well. Like, I don't think it was that. I think it's like, they just want you to think about what could be out there. Because it does frame things to make it seem like there is something out there. And it's just not many, it's not, and it's not the stupid awful, prometheus way of, we're just not going to tell you, things that you should know because that's why I cut it from the script. Yeah, because that plot is very complicated. So you need a bunch of you want some of these things. But this is a simple plot. And it just kind of has these bits and pieces. And I was thinking

about it for hours in the good way, not in the previous coming covenant where I'm like, Oh, my God, what a waste of time that was. I really recommend it if anyone likes a nice tense movie with some horror elements. Okay, okay. Yeah, proud of getting here. Most of my week was, you know, still practicing Tekken 7, still practicing dust loops in Exard Rev 2, and so on and so forth. But I think I spent a ton of time, like putting shirts on hangers, putting shirts on hangers. No, in transit and stuff like that, playing some Puyo Puyo Tetris, continuing to put my time into that. And on the switch, on the switch. How's it holding up? So well, the whole thing is I fucking love Tetris. I need to really put that that out there. And okay, I'm not as much a Puyo

Puyo guy, right? It's it's always been there. And it's always been like, I it's fun enough. But I really just feel like, fuck, I wish I was playing Tetris when I'm playing it. And that's a bit of a problem where I'm like most puzzle games, with the exception of like Tetris attack. And like, Dr. Mario. Yeah, with the exception of like those two most puzzle games I go, this is really fun. Boy, I wish I was playing Tetris. It's like one of the most like the ultimate games. It's just satisfying. And I'm like, I've spent so much time on it, but I like, I just feels get to lock it up. And like, when I'm playing something that isn't Tetris attack, I'll go, man, I wish I was playing Tetris. That's exactly. Yeah. We're gonna read the room here. Super puzzle father to turbo. Yeah.

Is that like, not like maybe the second or third best puzzle game next to Tetris? I'm not a big fan of that. Not because I don't like as bad. I'm just, it never clicked with me. I love the themes and the things that happen around it. But I wish the actual puzzle game was different. I think I think it's fucking fantastic. I love I can't even disagree with you. It just doesn't click with me. Yeah. And I did, I did QA on it. You know what I mean? Like, the HD remix of it, like we spent time with it. And just, yeah, the gem sizing system of whatever you want to call it. Like, I don't know. It just feels a little less fun to me. And it's weird. Puzzle combat and MK deception, though, like everyone.

So like the whole time, you know, I was like, okay, after spending enough time on the Tetris section, I'm like, all right, let's see what the hubbub is about. What's this hybrid game mode, right? What's this? You're doing, you're playing both Tetris and Imperial at the same time. And it's weird, man. It's weird. And it's like, I don't know. I think it's kind of fun. There's like, there's some interesting things happening, interesting things happening where you'll basically will get either a cluster of Puyos or a cluster or like a Tetromino, right? And you're filling the same grid. And you can either clear a line with Tetromino's or fill our connect four or more, you know, Puyos in the same way. But if you have like a Tetromino, and then like Puyos in

the middle of it, that line doesn't clear. What you have to do is drop another Tetromino on top of the Puyos. And if the Puyos are considered soft blocks, so the Tetromino as a hard block pushes through them until it hits the next bottom or like hard surface, right? So you're lining up Puyos by having them be like below where the rest of their color is, and then dropping a Tetromino that pushes them up to extend your pop flow. Is it like a Puyo? Is it the same width as a like a Tetris square? Same size. Exactly. One to one. Okay, okay. Yeah. So that's that. Then we get into like, I don't know if you were into that. What's that wizard fighting or like Tetris game that we got way into? Oh, Kyle Tetris game? No, no, no, no, no, no. It was like PlayStation plus game.

Oh, Tricky Towers. Yeah, I don't know if you play some Tricky Towers. I don't know Tricky Towers. But so that's basically just, it's pretty fun, but it's just like a Tetris situation where things aren't confined to a single square. So all of a sudden you're trying to stack your Tetris blocks, and then they just like a gust of wind brushes by it. It's just gravity, it smells. It's like, yeah. That game was, it was a free PlayStation plus game last summer, and that game's fantastic. Okay, yeah, okay. Yeah, this is, it has some fun stuff for you. You have to think about combos a little differently. And then there's some blocks that drop where it's like, it's four Puyos in like a, like a T block shape. But like every couple of seconds it switches to one or the other.

So you can go, do you want a tetramino? Do you want Puyos? You know, you can kind of like plan out your, your things that way and stuff. But either way, it's like, it's, it's a fun enough new mode they came up with. And like, there's like, like a story mode with like characters that are all from both worlds clashing in a Marvel versus Capcom kind of way. And it's like, that's the only way to compare it, you know, and it's cute. It's a fun time. But I feel like, you know, after every couple of games that I'm like, all right, time to just go back to class, okay, hard Tetris mode, you know, and they even, and they do have like, for people like me, they have Tetris versus Puyo, where one side is fighting the other, but you're playing the two

separate games. So like we, for example, could sit down, you could play Puyo Puyo, and I'm playing Tetris, but we're, we're attacking each other with different game modes. And that's actually like what I would want the most. Because like, yeah, like I've never gotten good at Puyo. I don't know how to plan our combo or do any of that, like advanced game stuff. But Tetris and Dr. Mario. Thank you. Whether you were you play both sides. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I guess so. I guess so.

Well, actually, I know, because Derek always creams me with the Tetris. That's a great soup into the game, though. It's so good. I love that idea of like, two people playing different games, but like, the attacks convert to the same type of thing, you know. But yeah, still super fun and worth it. And again, at a base level, if you're looking for a Tetris experience, like, just playing the main Tetris mode seems to have everything you need. I did the T spin test. It's all there. It works. It's I forgot the name of it. But back when I was in QA, when we did, we had a Tetris game and we were learning about how

the Tetris company, whenever they officially like license their the Tetris out, there's a code book of like compliance rules for specific like Tetris guidelines called the T number number something codes. And like, it's like, your Tetris game has to have this speed of dropping every, you know, number increase of difficulty. It has to you can't have any obviously you can't go off shape, right? You can't create custom shapes. The colors must match on all these little brand things. But then there's advanced things like you can't just have a rotate one direction button. There's got to be left and right. Yeah. And you have to have the ability to like do T spin type tactics or it's like it's where you hook in a shape that it shouldn't fit

into like what like a well, but like you rotate the opposite way and it squeezes in like magically you have like little things like that that it forces each of these games to happen. This game has that, you know, so it follows the Tetris guidelines, whatever that means to anybody. What are your thoughts on like, I think one of their guidelines is when a piece touches another piece, it does not automatically like frozen love that you can spin it forever. I don't like I love that. I think that they should be an option to take that off. But that is like I think ever since like the Xbox Tetris worlds like that is that's been the thing going forward. I can't believe you hate the the Saturn sound chip and you hate the best podcast.

Because here's the thing is you love facts. And absolutely play Tetris without that if but you have to go to the grandmaster games. Yeah, those are the ones that they play on AGDQ. Those are the ones that are like terror instinct and stuff like that where they're just like you like what percent like zero point zero zero zero one percent of the population has a chance of surviving like any of these games. It's ridiculous, right? Any form with the specific gene to have a brain that can work that way. That can handle the invisible crazy grandmaster Tetris. But I think like like they like yeah the Tetris DS and like and all that stuff like version where you you have max speed blocks or you're playing on like max level 99 and it drops instantly and

you just have to slide it along the bottom. You have like about a second or two to position it. I love that. I love that speed. I love the tension of that. And like to me that's what I kind of got used to you know. So I mean it is easier to have that ability to like correct your placement. Back in the Game Boy days like it was like if you messed up on like you know just putting like one of those the S blocks in the wrong area and all of a sudden you've got like oh god like this huge gap and you just messed up. Sorry if that's level two and you place it wrong try and get yourself out of it. You are right. But like it does like there's that challenge of like can I get because usually that means like well this is going to be your undoing this is going to

take you like three or four levels. But there's that challenge of like can I like somehow get myself out of this mistake that I made. Right. You don't get that challenge when you have the infinite spin stuff and it doesn't lock right away. Okay. But I understand it's probably like a bigger appeal makes the game a little easier. They're just trying to get a game that everyone can play. And so if that's how they want to do it. It's optional Derek you could not. Well it's not just that but like some of those advanced tactics like I mentioned like the T-spin wouldn't be possible through that. I bet you need like frame perfects you know. But yeah I get it would have to be frame perfect you're right. Yeah. And like but like at the

same time I think like if you're doing it like properly it would hit the bottom of the hook where the T-spin would go. Yeah. And the moment it touched it it would just lock. Yeah. You wouldn't even have that frame to maneuver into the well you know. And furthermore like any other touch things where you have to go into like the side of a wall. So if you create a wall there's an indentation you have to kind of get into it but you have to go underneath other things. Like it might be harder to or almost impossible to do some of the more advanced things where like you can go deep into a shape by if you touch and graze a surface. Yeah. You need to slide it along the surface to get it in there. I would compromise and say like the idea that you can

keep spinning is cool. But the fact that you can just like if you're like beneath like level five and it was one to five you're going to spin your forever forever. Yeah. There should be like a limit to that. That's fine. I agree. Yeah. I agree. Okay. We can mean that. We can meet that. Yeah. Right. Serious. Touch this room. Because because no like if you got if you make a point place make some good points if you need it if you have a wall built up and there's a cave in the middle of it and you drop an L block and then you slide it in sideways and then the moment it touches the bottom of the cave it goes you're locked in. Fuck you. That sucks. Yeah. You know you should be able to slide all the way in because it lets you get out of tricky situations

a little easier. Yeah. Infinite spins. I agree. We can we can live without that. Yeah. But I definitely do like the like you know you have that second or so and then it locks. Yeah. Yeah. That's how I always knew that touches work. Do you also hate the the swap the peace swapping. No I try that's nice. Okay. Because they're like oh because you want to get a long piece and hold on to it. Yeah. Yeah. Or or a tea you know and hold on to it as well. Or like you have the wrong s shape you want to get the other one. Exactly. Which that always it takes me like a second like wait which one do I need. Okay. No switch again. Yeah. Okay. Gotta give all of us some love. Let's talk about Mr. Cube. You know. Yeah. Save Mr. Cube. Mr. Foursquare. He was all right. All

the shapes. The T shape is always helpful. Which one would you date. Well you wait till you see the characters in Puyo Puyo Tetra because they all have personalities. I want the green Puyo. That's the cutest one. That's the one. Like probably the red one. Well no. Well green green M&M is the sassiest M&M. Yes. I'd date the green M&M. Yeah. T. T shape T block is like the captain of like the Tetra ship. Yeah. And like essence that are the bratty little brother and sister. You know and then there's like the eye block which is like their engineer dog that like is super smart and dog. It's a dog. It's a dog but it's a dog in a lab coat. It's like a hot dog. It's like a literal like sausage. I got it. You know. I'm on you. I'm on you to you Puyo Tetra. And so on and so forth.

Yeah. So it's a lab coat in sync class. If you want to find out the characteristics of and traits of these blocks you can find them out. I feel like the Davidson is next. Absolutely. Super possible. Like in fact the story mode in between. You're kind of like you're basically going through. And that's what's nice about the infinite spin is like you can have a top and a bottom in one game. That versatility. Yeah. No bad. Yeah. But that was that. And I guess one other thing is have you guys heard of the show Black Mirror. Yes. Have you seen it. I've heard that is a depressing show and not fun. And that's nah. I've not episode one was too real for me. Like I'm serious. I guess it's so real for so many people. I don't know. It's a bit of like that.

That first episode is I wish I had started in the middle and then watch the first episode later. You're not wrong because that is a you have to get past that and then go like all right. I'm curious about what you're doing here and then you get dropped into like sci-fi like sci-fi moral dilemmas and it really doesn't sell that with the first episode. You know the first episode with the the pig fucking thing right is like just a weird and horrible. And I don't know if you've okay. So like the premise of the first episode is like basically there is a terrorist that like kidnaps the Duchess. Yeah kidnaps an important like figure royal royal family and threatens that that she'll be killed unless the Prime Minister fucks a pig in on live national television

in front of the country and then they can't they cannot find the terrorist and it's and it comes out like a punchline and everyone's like okay what the fuck but then that happens in the first maybe two minutes of the episode and then the next 58 are the logistics of actually possibly or just like planning how to stop it like what would happen if you actually had to follow through on that punchline yeah you know and then it and it goes you got the full story associated with it and it's yeah it's pretty dark and fucked in all these ways but it's interesting but then immediately after that episode you get into what it's really about which is people staring at screens right it's called black mirror because your screen a screen is a black mirror it's what you're looking

at when it's off yeah and they just take that basic premise and apply it to 90 of the time some form of technology technology advanced in the future in a way that is like this is a universally beneficial awesome thing that would make your quality of life better drastically now let's not focus on that let's just talk about this one couple that's breaking up because they have the ability to record every day of their lives into a like a little thing called the grain where all your site is recorded on video and you can play part parts for people and whatnot what would happen if a couple were breaking up and arguing and going like all the evidence yeah I said this oh did you yeah let's pull it up there and look at the specific recorded moment

that's a Dave Chappelle sketch which one the home stenographer oh right you're sitting in the corner yeah I didn't say that at dinner yeah stenographer yeah that's great that's but as a piece of drama that sounds awful like not fun at all dude it's so good yeah because they explore every aspect like they take this into the introduce the concept of the tech they explore all like uses and ideas that you'd have for it at a basic level in society but then focus on one like just small human part of it you know and something really mundane something or yeah something that usually shouldn't something that would be a background element in a big sci-fi movie you know so like if you're watching Minority Report with all the world

and tech there is and whatnot you're not watching like the entire system come down because of the precogs and who they are what you're watching two random people living in this world where crime is being stopped because someone can predict it and what that crime right so that it's and then the best part is like you finish the episode you have minimum a discussion as long as the episode about it you continue thinking about it and then you watch the next one and it completely leaves that setting behind introduces and then others yeah it's kind of like twilight yeah every episode it's self-contained every episode new premise new interesting thing the technology sometimes a bit different and not always depressing okay sometimes like really entertaining and funny

other times like there's one episode that like people were hyping up for me for a while and I finally got around to called San Ginerpino yeah you're telling the less I can say I say about it the better no way you couldn't tell me anything I really is the best just watched cold it's part of the third season and it's like there's a lot of episodes that kind of crush you because of how like sad or depressing you know tends to be this is one episode where it's like you just melt the whole time and then like when the final like bits of it start to come together you're just like you made up for almost all the sadness of the entire show all right all right with this because it's like I hate hyperbole and over hyping things but like if they're gonna make you sad they're

gonna crush you yeah if they're gonna make you happy you're gonna be blissful you know that's the thing is they take it to the extremes they introduce something explore it thoroughly and make you feel like whatever emotion it is it's gonna be 12 you know like they're gonna push it and crank it and crank it and um yeah like that episode so you finished it i finished i have one episode left oh okay so i'm i'm i'm at the second to last episode basically and uh yeah it is one of my favorite like i don't even know what genre you put it in it's your tv drama yeah tv drama i guess sci-fi drama the sort yeah that's because the sci-fi is incidental the sci-fi is there it's not the focus and it's it's so cool that like because we love sci-fi as a topic and like

discussing it and getting into it but this thing just really like it's like yeah it's there anyway moving on let's tell a human story yeah that happens to have these like things going on you know in this world um i couldn't recommend it enough to everyone i know like really really good and uh especially going into this third season where you're like how are you gonna talk what you just came off of oh fuck you know like you're meeting each episode like each episode leaves you with a higher expectation and they're matching it so far i'm damn like uploading that black mirror on netflix you know yeah for sure um that's me okay do you guys have anything notable and like consumption any games or movies or things you've been playing yeah well uh right right now i've

been working on a video about pikmin and there's one of well you mentioned something about pikmin earlier yeah yeah so i've been getting into it i hooked up uh are we at home and i'm you know i'm in it got game cube controller going but yes pikmin one okay but um it is so this is my first time playing pikmin and just like not not having known much about it and then like going in just like that uh roger rabbit thing with uh judge doom where i'm just like oh shit this is so fucking dark yeah i can't believe this i love it no there's this one part i got these i got my yellow dudes they got these bomb rocks it's great i'm running around i'm blowing shit up it's i'm so pow i'm like mad with power and then but then it's the end of the day or something attacks you

well yeah i know what what happened is i threw my bomb out and i accidentally killed 60 pikmin at one that's like that's 60 percent of all the dreamcats can only do 100 thank you oh i'm so sorry she's making that mistake i've been yeah sorry sorry sorry the game you can only do 100 but like at the end of the day during the captain's log the guy is like lost man i fucked up today no no it's fucking worse it's like i watched the pikmin stare back at me in horror and betrayal as i blew them up i didn't know you get a unique message you do like they're triggered by specific events and it was just like oh wow you know my babies like i beat pikmin one i don't think i ever saw that message yeah see if a pikmin gets sacrificed knowing that it

was to knock samus out of the arena in a smash attack i think it's like fair enough yeah my my cause was met you know but that for nothing for nothing because you because butterfingers my big nose got in the way of my eyeballs yeah it's like that blows up and all the ghosts go up in this cast on me and turn and look at you you're like all right well okay so this video just be about pikmin one or on the franchise as a whole it's it's actually going to be more about what this game means to shiguro Miyamoto okay and his goals for that franchise gardening yeah all that gardening stuff all that um just all of his hopes and dreams for that franchise and that i i just find it very interesting because it's it's a game that keeps coming back that he keeps you know he keeps pimping

it out but they had the animating short and they have the 3ds game coming out he goes out to like e3 wearing a pikmin pen like you know like he yeah he just loves it and then it's like oh pikmin four might come out i think he said it's complete yeah he does like they recently came out saying that they were it was still being worked on or wasn't coming out yet okay but it's like i don't like he does it for himself and he does it for liam yeah i think that's his second major motivator yeah i pitched the graces like is this the cars franchise of nintendo yeah because like john lastner john lastner is the boss so he loves the cars films so they keep fucking making it i talked to some friends in california uh we went to the cars right now i hate the

cars franchise like it's it's soulless to me like you like it sure i actually heard the cars three is kind of i heard that too the main thing charged before you go into that is the thing about like cars is that i knowing that it comes from an old cartoon and one of their first like animated shorts i think is pretty cool yeah right where they had they're like this wasn't completely out of nowhere we went back to our old things and like rebooted and sort of brought it up and i thought that was cool and i feel like we'd feel a bit differently if it wasn't just like 3d as well like it was 2d animation in that sense but yeah at this point we're hitting cars three and planes and all this other stuff that it's like planes yeah it made planes too i thought they're doing a plane

who knows but why not like if dang dang cook stars in the planes so i guess i guess he's getting some nice checks out of disney i don't know but sorry what were we saying man yeah no um when i went i went to the cars ride in disneyland is always i can't i don't know which one is which the one in california and the land the the car land thank you the cars ride is incredible it's like the most incredible ride i've ever been on where they have these animatronic cars that talk to you they project an animation of their animated faces on the actual physical object and it looks incredible like you actually feel like you're looking at a character and i was like that was a great ride it was really fun i still don't care about cars yeah but as to what you're saying like

john last i'm sure he does but the other major thing is that i was told that cars makes pixar the most money ever yeah via via merch and they'll always keep pumping out more as long as like they think it's fiscally you mentioned if you were eight and you had like a lightning McQueen bed they can hang out yeah yeah like i'm fucking cool with that absolutely i'm a superstar i sleep in this racing car to you yeah exactly that with my wife i heard that a lot of the deal with that cars thing was because that was around the time that they there was a falling out with disney and they were like well if pixar is going to be on its own we need some extra money because like they need to worry about distribution is so like they made the cars films because they knew they

could do a ton of merch on it but then they worked at i would disney and all that stuff so like it's yeah but they still made its own money yeah those i mean they make a lot then pixar makes a lot of money they work very hard the films are very very good usually so like this is like a long way to go but it's like the way i knew that the franchise because i haven't seen any of them but the way i knew that the franchise was like cash cash money cash money was um back in qa oh here we had a cars game it came in i remember had to do compliance on it and for the first time ever like i because occasionally you get broke well you get the game you get a build and then you get like different discs right for each skew and whatnot and what was very common is a game will

come out and if it's like a major release of some kind you'll get e figs d which is english french italian german spanish right and dutch perhaps um that's common and if it's an if it's a huge game you'll get that plus put a j on the end of there plus japanese right and or scandy where you get like uh scandinavian countries right and i remember getting cars and it was a school where they had a school of disc where they're like this is e figs dutch j scandy which is four languages in itself bpr which brazilian portuguese russian oh yeah wow where i'm like this is 14 different language e figs d i remember just like having yet 14 discs for one game and 14 different languages being like i've never we've never had a game there's this many languages until cars right and a new one

just came out like a new game that hit all consoles i think like switch uh xbox one like pc one cars three driven to win it or driven i don't know but like that's still happening if you're localizing into like every different heart goes out every different scandinavia language and brazilian portuguese like you are making hand over his dollars in cash yeah but you know whatever i mean again and what are they gonna say do you say no to a paycheck no no no no no no get money i always got bills to pay yeah shirts to hang bills to pay okay is that most of what you've been playing yeah i think that's the most of it we've been traveling a lot getting ready for the con but and even that it's mostly like you know i i'm sure you guys get into this too sometimes where it's like

most of my game time is eaten up by like youtube shit yeah so yeah that the pigment is for me but it's also for the youtube right right the youtube that youtube is yeah yeah we were in alaska um uh two weeks ago for this comment like how late like one week in between the two trips here oh because we're from there yeah yeah and i we're from there and a bunch of my stuff is still in storage so uh i pulled out a handful of things and um among them i grabbed my box of azumanga gaio hell yeah oh i saw this twitter post yeah so yeah that is like the closest i ever got to just like that is the one anime that i like super super got into and was like buying the dvds like every tuesday when they came out but that was like 10 years ago um and i really hadn't watched the series in earnest like since then

and like i remember thinking like yeah the first dvds kind of rough and then it gets really good at two um we just burned through that first day i was i was shocked at how much i was fucking loving it remembering all the idiosyncrasies of the characters and all of the jokes and then like because i actually have a degree in japanese but didn't really follow up after i finished my degree program so like it's all deep in there all that japanese is still in there but it's so very but i was feeling some of it coming back and like hearing phrases and whatnot it's unlocking things in your mind yeah and um i was able to get the uh the the bigger box set that has uh the inserts in every episode uh they have a write-up that's like about half a page of like oh here's all the jokes you

didn't fucking get oh wow this is a show made for japanese people yeah it makes fun of japanese culture in a very innocuous very subtle way yeah like Osaka in general is like it's based on her dialect yeah a ton of the comedy and it's like if the translator can get away with this then maybe you will get lucky and it'll make sense but for the most part it's going to fly over your head yeah and the the english dub is the worst thing in the world but they try they try they try that's really the problem is like but it's also like you can't since it is so fundamentally japanese like it's an impossible task yeah like i can't believe they would even try no and the idea of hearing uh anyone else voicing shio's dad like you're missing out on norio wakamoto that is that is just don't

even watch the fucking show his voice is the best and like i don't even know what they have in english for that but fuck it sometimes i would switch over to the track and i'd just be like oh that was a crazy scene where tomo was yelling and doing some goofy let's go to english and i get like four syllables into it i'm like oh my god i can't because also tomo's character uh she's like the hyperactive tom boy she's a crazy girl and she seems like she's the most like boilerplate anime girl she's over exaggerating her emotions and she's always wild and stuff like that but i like that she's an asshole and she fucks up and she's a jerk and she's never rewarded for her dumb shit she's everyone kind of like just she's that one friend you just kind of keep around because i

don't tolerate yeah it's like i've known her since you know elementary schools and we stick around but like um you can't you can't do that in english or if you can like the person that can do that role well isn't in the pay grade four you know anime it just wasn't there they were they were doing persona yeah yeah you were getting but yeah it was but the god the shot and it's so good it's so innocuous and it's just i love that it is so i'm sorry yeah i want you to know i don't i don't know what it is but like other shows that like i guess are in the same vague category because i don't really know what else i've put there but like kind of like seinfeld anime seinfeld anime right show about nothing it's not even really slice of life it's like even less than life

yeah right because they're like little it was like the comic was originally just like a little single panel yeah and like anything that like it goes into i guess i'll just say the subject matter of like high school adventures with a bunch of little girls and and boys and whatnot i mean i don't know i just i haven't even remotely enjoyed anything as close as azimegatayo and like i kind of was when i first saw it i was like oh interesting maybe these shows are a lot better than i gave them credit for and i should watch more and then it turned out that no really this was really special yeah that was way way better than most like the only thing even closest again she can and that's still a different show yeah and even then that is like that's i don't tell people to

necessarily go watch that no i love that as much as i do because i spent a lot of time in an anime doing that so i know those people and those adventures that they have very specific i exactly so the whole time i'm enjoying it because i'm just imagining people i know filling those roles right but azimegatayo as it's own is just like i'm glad that it holds up and i wouldn't doubt for a second that it does because i know like just if i were to hear just the little um uh um high catch like that just melts me immediately the record of the on the come back like and like the weird ska song but then like like all this beautiful like awesome fun music and also like raspberry heaven the comic timing on so many jokes yeah like it's

it was at a time when i was like really in the family guy and i thought the funniest thing in the world was when he stubs his ankle and he goes yeah yeah the step joke right there's like yeah um osaka and saka you're like throwing the volleyball back and forth and it's like smacking each other in the face and that scene plays for like five hundred like everyone is like staring at them but just like the timing of throwing the ball i got it i got it but beat beat bam like the timing is just like it is a master class in how to set it up and then release it yeah and so it just feels like it's just a i don't know it's weird it's maybe me to say it just feels like it's smarter and knows what it's aiming for it doesn't ever try to be uh it's it is like kind of

oddly philosophical but still very minutia driven it's a very idiosyncratic approach to what it's trying to be and i was actually curious that uh i was wondering if nakamura sensei who is the one male character yeah i think the only male male character who has a name he's just the creepy dude if he if that would hold up and i feel like it's his character is like kind of a fascinating study because i don't know if they meant it to me what it is but it's almost like yeah if you're a girl you're gonna have to feel yeah this is part of your everyday life this is what it's like there's normal fucking creepy dude walks around and he gets away with it and he's part of the staff and he's like there's almost nothing you can do and it and i like and i it it makes me sad

and and it's like something like yeah like yeah you know what that's like and or i don't know what that's like and it's just like okay and then but the show isn't about him the show doesn't celebrate him yeah and there are so many ways like in anime where i see like you know like the whole idea of the the lech character like it just it's like like master roku on dragon ball you know dirty old man oh look at this dirty old man doing what's dirty old man always do one of my favorite animes from when i was a hit of all time awesome live yeah can't get enough of those fucking puppy murder scenes white um so we're cousins and we're in love and that is literally our character arc you had different tastes back then even if it wasn't gory and bloody it's actually not even great

it's fucking yeah that that show is garbage if it was censored it would still be one of the worst pieces of shit anyway thank you um i shit on that anime a long time ago like what are you doing i'm like i what are you doing did we see the same thing are you fucking serious no because i remember i because i'm thinking back to how did i watch that actually in its entirety because everyone at set anime club was like dude you gotta you got really i have to we hate washed it the first episode was like this is garbage let's keep going can it get worse and it does oh man but because it's so bloody and gory everyone's like yeah but even that gets it's okay we get your girl fetish we get it you know like fuck off right anyway your mom won't like this you'll get

your mom hates it this is the end i mean we're mom warned you not good stuff one of my favorite one of my favorites of all time is gto and i'm a huge fan of gritty drone is equal and i've you know watched red and and and seen the live action version of it i've missed out on a couple versions now actually because there's the news or live action reboot there's a korean version then there's a stage show you know anything word album but i and i was like so when i was uh show you james yeah so off probably public show yeah so when i'm showing my girlfriend like you know some episodes and we're like oh yeah introducing the show it's like oh man this was so funny you know like i think you're like let's watch let's go you know and like first episode why this episode

is like it starts out where he's like applying to be the teacher student teacher and him and his buddy are hanging out under the stairs and they're just like oh man check out those 16 year old panties walking overhead and i'm like oh this has not aged well oops oh no and your girlfriend's like oh so this is what you like yeah and like yeah you know most of the like the the weird shit going on of like he has he invites the girl over and he's like he's gonna help her solve her problems but also while she's sleeping over he's gonna get into the elephant outfit to do his like maybe we'll get laid you know how elephant trunk work but it's like but it's fine because he helps it out with their problems of course in the end right but like it's a she's so like it's a journey

to get there and then it ends with a badass biker scene and all that stuff but like on the way he's like yeah let's get that sweet teen puss you know like try to crush in his heart and you're like oh man gto has not aged i don't does that happen in live action anything i don't like i remember not really he's more of a like whoa hey she's hitting on me what a white you know it was a hot in here but i look at the time kind of good at it wasn't such a relatable nerd right you know whereas the pilot anime ends with like she's like goodbye sensei and he's like walking away and panties drop on his face and he goes great because like that's the tone you know so right sometimes it this that kind of stuff is like golden boy also the same problem

golden boy yeah that's golden boy one of the best dubs ever i almost refuse to wash in japanese i think i think the english is more entertaining but like you have to you have to be aware that's like no this is not meant to be usual anime protagonist perving this dude loves toilet seats and is on another level with it just accept that and and that's part of it not too long going to early maybe we could go i saw someone like yeah that's right and it was just like two screen caps of golden boy and it was like this the nice little anime girl or like whatever she was like in her late teens whatever it is uh hopefully she was 18 but i forget but she was like in front of a big sunk uh sinking moon in uh sorry sun in the the bay was nice orange he's like all right i

want to i want to let you know like um kintaro that one day i want to see you again and oh it's a nice screen cap and then it shows the next screen cap so you can take my virginity yeah and you really have like that that's 19 late 90s anime that's golden boy that's definitely i recall that one kind of redeeming itself a bit like there's all the girls get back together yeah and it's like at the end of the day he still just wants to study and learn and be better and he kind of keeps on it's getting as he's driving his bike it's very similar to gto where it's like at the end he's a good guy and he does the right thing and saves the day but along the way he's perving hard on the journey yeah there's there's some there's some contention that people could draw to that and be

like fair no 100% fair yeah and i and i guess it's in that place now or i'm like yeah i guess if i if i don't revisit it it's still a great ass hilarious show to me because i laughed when i watched it when osu! manga and daio and there's you always have those memories always have those memories those good times there's toilet bowl memories but i'm only we got like i think two maybe three dvds in the osu! manga of of six and so far it's pretty well held up and especially in that uh camp like i think it's handling it well enough you know the nakamura sense that character probably doesn't need to exist the way he's handled is seems all right but there's you know of course some discussion that could happen like the aura of blue creep around him i think yeah like like

like just you know you know like when there's like like um when someone like has like a not a like an embarrassed kind of face like the top of the tree yeah yeah yeah yeah everyone always like wave lines yeah yeah like that he that emotion is what he embodies and like that's a great contrast with like these these girls have been basically having their fun day and it's like this cloud yearning in the background it was it helped the punchlines i think you know one of my favorite things uh one of my favorite scenes in the show that i recall is like when you talk about timing and like letting the joke play out and whatnot it's just straight up osaka sitting there staring at the dot in her eyes and like the fact that it's it's not like sakuga level but it's like

it's a high budget moment because it's very smoothly animated yeah as she's suddenly turning her head around staring at this dot that doesn't exist and then you're like what the fuck am i looking at it keeps going and i think it loops like yeah a couple times they know how to hold it for a while and then the girl sitting next to us like what are you doing it's like you know those little bubbles in the eyes i'm chasing them right now she goes and it's just like oh the fan went down i'm so sorry oh boy no that's fine that's a good thing you didn't say something super embarrassing like you know when people are talking over and you're like oh and i love those toilet seats when everyone on the bus all of a sudden gets really quiet and

you're somebody who says something and that's when i walked in on my parents yeah you just toilet the noise reduction is not going to be a nightmare but it's okay oh sorry it's fine we'll figure it out we'll figure it out ganbatte she got it she got it she got it um also uh i have started and never actually finished saints row four numerous times and i was like no dune at this time we recently did a video about uh collectathons yeah and kind of talking about how you know banjo and ukulele and kind of like plotting the path from there and we kind of ended on the idea that like straight row collectathons they died but they kind of were just enveloped by everything else and yeah yeah saints row four is like there's a lot of collectables oh yeah really if you look at like

jack one and jack two um you realize what happened between those two jack and dax your games um grant the thought of three and it's obviously like they went oh we need to switch the formula because jack two is like a weird gta clone um i don't think it's really a good game but it's a fascinating little relic um and so i just kind of got me on uh it's a roundabout way to saying i want to finally be saints row four yeah you gotta three i've been through i've been three three times yeah i've been three two and it got far into four but never finished three is probably the best game of the last generation for me it might be like it's that i've actually platinum they're gotten the whole like just both of those like all i've done all the dlc i just

like probably saints row the third in particular i want to start in the beginning i want to start the beginning of four because i've attempted to get to it i just never finished it but i think maybe the best kept secret about saints row is that the universe is one of the most respected and best fully fleshed out ever and especially from that game a game that weird and crazy and just kind of over the top but like saints row four you get the act of getting the game back together uh because you have to get everybody out of the matrix you know they all have their little story arcs and just about every character from all of the three previous games comes back and has like a moment of like redemption and it's this like you're including one and two

yeah well i don't i i didn't care for one and two but if you do not many people did there's a scene in saints row four where like they replayed the beginning of saints row one where you're like walking down a street some guys like will some crack fucking awesome but like that would go way over my head but then when i realized yeah they brought back the beginning of saints row one when i i'm pretty sure by the time they got to four nobody on that team worked on since that game at all yeah but they still were like we have to respect it and it's beautiful like even some of the character like there's one character in particular where because you're in like a computer simulation they like they rescue various versions of the same character

so you get to hang out with the character as she is as she was in saints row the third but also what she was in like saints row one which she was like this hippy girl with dreadlocks and like when i like i've only ever played saints row three and four so in saints row three she's like just this badass bitch and like oh i got my mitt my mini skirt that's office appropriate and i'm just gonna shoot you know shoot you and i got my sleep tear and then it's so different but she was like a pot she was a pothead hippy in the second and first games because that was what was kind of more cooler and that was yeah and they were unironically trying to do gta but like a slightly wackier yeah one and two and then three they're just like let's just

go yeah i guess like halfway through two because like one was kind of like a straight kind of gangster style game and then they claim that like they were working on that before san angeles was announced so when when gta san angeles was announced at e3 they were like fuck we're making that game god now who are gonna cause copycats but then like with two i think kind of like they switched up a lot of the team and that one went a little goofier and then i think a lot of the original saints team left and so for three it was all these new people and they just went for it but in such a way that i love the tone of the saints row games because i i think i don't know if people still don't realize this but they it's fun and it's dumb but it doesn't look down on you it doesn't

punch down it respects you and wants to have fun with you it's like the opposite of a michael bay film what doesn't pander it doesn't think like oh we're gonna give you guns and a dildo bat because i don't even do you tested well it's like no it's like jumping out of an airplane to kanya west's power yes it's just that just fucking right i would not agree with you like just personally that saints row 3 is like a game of a generation like it's very high for me but you know what a moment of the generation is is that what you just described that when i saw that there's so many like well there's so many good moments in that game yeah i could talk forever about them but like going to saints row 4 and playing on ps4 the first time i played it i played it on a 360 that

was rough frame rate was really really bad and being on the on the ps4 is just like it's so much better um you play get out of hell i have i got the reelected edition so i have like it's so it's in there just the uh game of the year edition and grace actually like went like ham and almost beat like all of the dlc stuff and get out of the hell actually i watched it like okay i know i did i know god i would dare you get out it's not it's not that good no it's it's fun i do enjoy just like okay you know like you got to check that box got to get your collectibles i do enjoy like okay i get to play kind of the same missions as you always play but it's a slightly different in a new environment like that that's fine but yeah no it's a bummer you know they need to do a saint so i guess ages and

mayhem is coming out now because it's basically saints row awesome but also i feel like it's like saints row plus overwatch yeah let's get all these characters that we could where would you go after slaughter you know you can't you can't they probably needed to reboot or something like that so i mean just johnny gatt is in the game well and that's one of the problems about the saints row franchise i think is you can't really market it to sell merch because you are choosing your own character and you're creating the you're everyone has their own boss in a way so that's why agents of mayhem it makes more sense because you can get people to do fan art of it of the characters of there's more to grab on to yeah so i i think i'm really excited to see how that game comes out

because i am such a huge fan this the story is surprisingly good um like the characters no no i'm throwing down oh that's one of the best video game stories the whole time yeah in for saint row three and and four i love four but three i think for the story mode of four is great and that's to me that's made saints row three and four so awesome is i think the stories are genuinely good they're funny but also the side mission stuff is great yeah it's it's like the only game where like i did the side mission stuff because i genuinely wanted to whereas like so many times with my grand theft auto and i played i there are there like missions i was like i never wanted to do that mission again exactly i need to do it so i can move forward but oh my god i have to drive

another helicopter for david cross in this not san francisco i'm gonna fucking kill a baby right now i can't it's the worst thing like i've only never had that i've only been two gta games ever gta one and then gta china town wars and every single other one there's a mission or that moment where i'm like i just can't get through this it sends me all the way back like i i just and there's too much the game's too long like four and five sleeping dogs close that that's one of them sleeping dogs i finished and gta three i finished and like i'm sorry um saints row three yeah that's since row the third i finished and i was just like i did it i did one and then i did it before sleeping dogs thanks for a three-head checkpoints it had the bow duke in where you could like

you just run towards the vehicle and you just hop in it quickly because it was always so slow to pull a guy out get inside by then you get shot or blown up you know what you guys were like there's a game called apb read oh god stop it on the ps4 stop it all right that that is literally that was literally gta or saints row battle worlds with a really bad like mmo thing going on but it's it's it's almost as if they celebrate crime in the city like you know what's great be employed as a criminal as a job it seems amazing um yeah i you know as someone who like the era that i like i feel like i was in was one where saints row one was a punchline to your jokes saints row two was it's coming up so much this podcast but it was something i tested and i don't

know why it just it just happens to be the things we're talking about but and that was it it was just like okay over the top gta h thing and then someone by the time three came around and i remember you and pat and a couple other people were hanging out with were like dude no this is really funny it's really good it's very different and i was like yeah okay i'll take that but i'll get around to it i guess but it just like it's a fucking saints real game why would that ever be on my priority list you know and like over the years it's come up more than enough times and then by the time four came out and i saw the video that you guys put together and something like okay no they legit seemed to have like went somewhere with this franchise that is like yeah because it started

really started at three when they were like you know let's make this much more like like what much more wackier they veered off the path and then started like cutting through the bush yeah to find new territory it seems like and then now you're made you're really selling me i'm like you know booting that up because it's been sitting on my steam list forever yeah but it was just like a low priority thing i was like yeah i'll get around to these because i hear they're very funny you know what was interesting at the beginning of saints were free they kill off johnny gatt and it's almost like a symbolic thing like we're getting rid of this like the white guy gamer this guy who is like just you know the basic same guy we put on the front of every single video game box to sell

a game like we're literally killing him this is here you go this is a new experience this is different you think that you think that that was like a symbolic moment for looking back on it i do feel that way especially when they bring him back and it's kind of a bummer and then get out of hell it's like no i don't like johnny gatt i want to hang out with johnny gatt interesting okay but but now he came out and died yeah but now now as someone who's on the outside i have to challenge this and say that it seems to me like johnny gatt's an icon that people like push me and they brought it and like that and they put him in dive kick as a guest character and it's like one of the characters i keep hearing about is johnny gatt so i'm like i don't know if like you're supposed to feel that

way about him or if that was just the interpretation you know and that's why i think that they fucked up with the marketing on that game by having you choose your own character because like no i don't like maybe this personal thing i do hate johnny gatt i think that anytime he's around it's like oh like i roll it's like i get i get this character i've hung out with this character in so many different games okay and so like and i i love the boss i love female voice number two like that's me you know what i mean and you but you can't put that in dive kick you know like you can't you can't do that and so that's why i think they just singled out johnny gatt because he is the easiest guy to sell because he looks like everybody but also him dying is what made him a

thing to even come back like if he didn't die he wouldn't be in dive kick there wouldn't be get out of hell so which i didn't i didn't know like was uh like you're saying it was not that great like i i kind of assume that like he's the beloved of the cast and that's why he gets this moment type of thing you know like in any in other games where they have like just like more of a joke character almost like a dan hibiki yeah but i mean to make a dlc based on dan is like ballz ball they wouldn't do that you know what i mean they should it should have been dan hibiki's way of the hado way of that would have been infinitely better i just all you do is toy oh yeah jeez shake your hand with the waggle system holy fuck call him catch money i give calcom money every day and

they never tell us free that was quick that was free um call us on now yeah when um early early on when you mentioned like the gta stepping in and kind of changing up the genre first for a lot of games and whatnot like you just kind of remind me of like how uh every once in a while we'll go back to like a shooter or just even like a platformer before like inverting the stick or rather in stick controls and camera controls proper or a thing oh man yeah before cover shooting was a thing before targeting was a thing yeah and you're like how the fuck did we play yeah like it's so rough you know i think um like i mean gears of war obviously like made it really big but like kill switch being the like the first one that i brought about the advanced controls and stuff i just i think win back

on n64 win back was only just two and that that one's not bad that's not a bag in well like we're big fans of win back love but like fucking just any time you're like you're going back to this really clunky camera that you'd like swing the c-stick left or right and it doesn't even know where you're trying to aim and then looking up and down it'll make your cursor like you know like track with the head like it's just like oh god we had a generation and a half of that before someone figured it out um it's weird how like just about one thing comes and goes this is the new standard everyone's stop yeah if you have a game coming out shut up cancel it you know yeah and i would even say like saints throw through is one of the first games were like oh man like i'm i'm jumping into

cars and i'm shooting dudes and i'm just taking cover on stuff and it all just clicks it feels good even back in uh 2011 it came out like it just felt like they really got almost i think it took until gta five like because i think four people were still like not happy with the aiming and i still never i couldn't get the the aiming and the driving and gta four i just could never get my brain around it i just never really like gta four i know for some people that it's absolutely blasting me but like i think five is just a way better playing game yeah what post saint's throw i was done with gta i played those games before their stories just aren't that interesting to me they're just not that wacky and fun to me like there's something so

they have a character but like the main plots never like it's a crime tale yeah would you are you are you into crackdown yeah crackdown one was really good i heard crackdown two was kind of more of the same because crackdown one was room for improvement and all i heard was crackdown two it didn't do much but crackdown three that i've been waiting for it okay waiting for it because that's yeah that's another french as it comes to mind we're just like not super jumps yeah throwing cars and that's like what saint's throw four was like oh this is the crackdown sequel i want it because it's there are like 1200 agility orbs all around the city and you get to jump and dash and fly around this whole ultimate destruction i was gonna say that's that's you want to talk

about like one of our favorite videos that we put much more work into anyway because we did a superhero month of like 30 superhero games one a day and and like just next one next one next one but whole close on the destruction was wonderful no we can't do this in 30 minutes we have to go in there we have to unlock the moves we got to do all this shit and then we got good into playing it and it was a high it was a high production high octane video high octane video we can pull out the stops for the games and matter yeah yeah that's how we're speaking of testing like wonderful 101 was a four hour one off you have to get cut down to like two hours or whatever speaking of testing i tested the game after a whole call through destruction the one based on the

edward norm movie was just called the incredible hulk it was the same open world is on the 360 right stuff and it was the same game like they were like let's just do that game again it was a different developer and it was just like there's everything is the same but just everything slightly worse the game looks better i guess it didn't look better it but that was it just everything else you could do like oh there's a move like that that's kind of like hulk ultimate destruction but it's just not as good yeah the single thing was just kind of glitchy and just there was there was a there was like there was a jank factor in ultimate destruction that made it better animations would like cut into each other in the way you do in a fighting game and it's like hey do you want

to do you feel like powerbombing this robot off of the skyscraper because you could do that you can change it into more and then jump off of it grab that car make hulk fists and then like jojo style aura aura into the pulp and then grabbing a bus and then sliding onto the ground and surfing it down the street like yeah and i feel like that's saint's row and then yeah and then the sequel game they cleaned a lot of that up in a way that was just like well this isn't funny anymore he just kind of rips the car apart well hulk hulk ultimate destruction was just a game they decided to make that was based on movie right so they no ultimate destruction no exactly but the other but the sequel yes yeah so that's why it wasn't time frames yeah constraints it's got to fit

our own because there was a big gap between the first hulk movie to one with um whatever the the comic book angling there's a first there's a long gap like i don't know almost like seven years or something so they had lots of time to make some that was the second marvel cinematic universe film tony stark is in that for edin the very beginning and then hulk like yeah it's the first one was hulk and then at the end there they're just screaming at their like podcast listening device right now i mean like but i like you can we can mcu categorize it but i'd rather just go like no the real first was blade because that was the first i watched i watched played again like a week ago and uh not counting 70s hulk in 70s yeah how the special effects in

that blade um there's they're not great but they're they were better than i thought they would be when that when vampires explode or whatever to ash i was like you know what that doesn't look awful it doesn't look great with the one effect that doesn't hold up is when deacon frost explodes towards the end and it's just a bunch of pictures that were stretched when he would excuse me yeah did you mean la magra la magra sorry la magra i will always have the blood god i will always have time in my day to stop and talk about la magra but yes deacon frost i was watching with with uh my you know the extended family on on the other side they were like oh yeah yeah blades really good and i'm like watching it like doesn't he say something really dumb towards the end blade and i go do you

mean something awesome do you mean something awesome do you mean something about motherfuckers always trying to ice skate uphill and they're like they're like yeah there's something about roller skating or something and i explain the whole thing about how Wesley Snipes that wasn't in the script he just said it improvised that shit on the set and the cats dropped all their shit on the ground like what is he doing yeah and it's the best because it's like for an improvised line like or i mean they knew they were gonna he's gonna say it and so they did the take and to set it up in that way but for something that's not in the script they knew they were gonna say something they have the moment the action scene moment of like the things about the big baddie

is about to die and then the camera zooms in on his face and he goes some motherfuckers are always trying to ice skate uphill kick dead bam and like yeah and young woolly goes it's just curvy the prongs he's just flailing limbs it was so cool but yeah blade i want to watch blade i played two is the one i think i actually remember the least now i was like he was listening to music backwards yep yeah when they walk by and frost is sitting there anyway being so cool that was to me the beginning of the marvel that's the real beginning of the marvel universe interviews just like marvel should thank me because i started this whole thing they didn't even call it like marvel was a single word in the credits really tiny like that rolled by you

know they kind of just said oh yeah vampire movie it's it based on the marvel character like the we actually did a video recently about blade no no no about marvel versus capcom and about like how disney infinite kind of i in my opinion like i couldn't actually prove this but that that is why we suddenly stopped getting marvel versus capcom games and all why we suddenly are now like when disney affinity died all of a sudden marvel stuff started popping out a lot of places we can't confirm it but but the point about blade though there's a really interesting anecdote that grace found well it's just like they like they only made like i can't remember the exact figure on it but you know how successful that movie is they made like under a hundred

thousand dollars okay that's what i was thinking it's like twenty twenty five thousand dollars like purely like no they got none of the marketing they got none of the shit and it was one of those that that movie was one of the things where they were like we need to make our own studio yeah and yeah ridiculous oh you mean marvel marvel early on yeah yeah i'm so sorry yeah marvel they were going out of business they were like trying to get out of bank yeah at the end of the 90s like they were almost done that was no that yeah that was that that's a well documented thing about how much they didn't know or care about the movie the film industry and the idea that like it could take any of their properties could take off was just like not a thought they're like sell

more comic books yeah they just didn't see that they had no vision for that and furthermore even when they were starting to be like we got to get into this movie thing they also treated they it's famous but they signed the worst ip deals ever in cinematic history everywhere just to just go on you want x-men have them in perpetuity forever yep as long as you keep making them and that's the movies and then hey ea we'll get this you till 2012 how about 2017 you can make all x-men spider-man games now sure does that mean money now do i get the money right now though like break it up again and we fucking eat it now like a loan shark or a pawn shop you know just like okay but i get the cash now right like marvel was insanely bad with their decision making back then

and then they had to get like now we gotta wait for people to die right it's back to things like thank god we have the punisher back or like spider-man where sony's like god damn it we tried five times we're fine yeah here as long as we still get our money though right yes just let us save the character oh car you know if you have you i like your sony yeah it's probably gonna be a great spider man game i'm not you played marvel uh infinite yeah seems like that's gonna be all right i don't know well okay so so the fgc perspective on marvel versus capcom and i'm not i'm not a part of that so no of course but like on three and about like the infinite stuff and whatnot it seems as if um what happened is kind of like the same thing that happened way back in the day where uh when it came

to the marvel versus capcom games like licensing wise you know they came they happened mvc one two i mean you can go back to the children of the adam and and such an x-men street fighter but the point is that they they get together they make these crossover games and they did agree to a deal right and then it would end and then when it ended that was it right and um there was and basically like the after the uh marvel 2 came out and then there was pretty much no more real 2d fighters coming out from capcom side until street fighter 4 dropped yeah uh it was just in that dead era where like they weren't allowed to touch it in any way there's nothing going on and and and uh when they made the marvel 3 deal it was again for a very limited period of time right like the games other

marvel games that went out on like very limited window things were like deadpool went up and then deadpool got pulled down then came back and it's like i think last week did the research it's the only one that has come back yeah i think it is i think it's only a marvel ultimate alliance also came back yeah okay and then not great reports and so marvel 3 got pulled down uh ultimate marvel the three got pulled down um when they had when the deal was up and we were and and i remember there was that situation where they had dlc characters that was like if you ever want these characters again in the future as a hard copy you must get them now or you will never get them again type thing uh and then and it was just like yeah this is the new marvel way of doing good things

like we put you we give you this window of opportunity and then after that digital distribution ends so it felt like it was kind of just more in line of the kind of deal they've always had with capcom and then the only reason why it popped back up again was because they struck the infinite deal and then they said all right now we can port uh ultimate over to new systems to get people back into it in case they completely miss that last generation and stuff and now we have something where it's like this is a cinematic franchise universe vehicle you know we can put dlc for whatever movies and and phases are coming out and use that so you know marvel's like keen on that idea of like persistent dlc to push whatever's going on in the cinematic who's not keen on that idea

of course yeah and then furthermore there was that view guy they hired whose name i keep forgetting that is now the in charge of marvel games where he's like all right time to start making good ones and stop making shit things that are based on a timeline i used to work at capcom because there was an interview at sony experience where they did the announcement we unveil and the two of them were you know i'm the capcom guy on the marvel guy i think at some point it said yeah we're both we're both the same man we both came from capcom and it's like they seem like i'm sure there's probably the reason why i i enjoy uh ultimate or infinite is because like they dumbed it way down for you know like news like me but um but like what's sort of happening though is

broadening the appeal of it will certainly more money and like it's absolutely like like characters like black panther people gonna walk out of that theater and be like oh i want to go play that you know and then he's gonna be in it uh but like i guess fgc y is what's kind of happening is like people are in a state where they're like you know um we are like feeling weird about this because like a lot of the cast that's leaked to return is like boring choices uninteresting choices a lot of a lot of the same a lot of the same choices from the older games but not the ones that people want there's no x-men no x-men no no and that's why i'm thinking it's obviously it ties into the disney fox right it doesn't surprise me at all when the comics are killing off mutants why would they put a big thing

in there absolutely and then they came out and had an article where um i believe it's matt dalgren perhaps or either him or cumbelfeed don't forget but they're coming on saying like no no no we have the ability we have the rights to use those characters if we wanted to but we just didn't and or it would be a dlc pack for the future is part of what the leaks are saying but i think that it's still like even if they have those rights and whatnot there's still a very clear messaging that like marvel wants to put out which is their cinematic universe characters watch our movies they watch their movies and so it's what's kind of happening though is that like you know the um the gameplay changes they seem fine enough there's a very interesting thing going on where you can

kind of like call in and tag at any time which is like it's almost like a make your own assist system which is cool but visually there's just this hump to get over where it looks rushed and like chudley's face looks terrible captain america's face looks really weird and there's a lot of just odd things going on with the models that yeah people are going like why'd you go for this art style if you weren't gonna really do it well maybe you should have gone for something like super duper like cell shaded or who knows but i would love to see like a thick ass black lines it'd be great cell shaded look and three heads had had like pseudo cell shading with thick lines i had put the models rounded but like yeah i'm thinking probably for cinematic universe reasons right

but one way or another the um yeah that's kind of was a sentiment but people were like all right but fine whatever we'll give it a fair shake when it comes out and uh hopefully that dlc list will be more interesting because right now the capcom side of this list is just boring characters that don't need to be there why are nemesis and chris on this list instead of fucking nemesis anyone from power stone or gene from godhand or anything interesting from capcom how come arthur's there and you make fun of them that is the first guy like you're so short like yeah how to respect like yeah that was that put capcom on the map that was their first nintendo game like talk about maximo talk about like ultimate on psp was a hell of a game like don't do that to arthur no so people

are in this weird mood of he has to talk shit to thore though thore looks kind of dumb yeah i mean arthur is like a heathen god like you thore thore was like oh but but like you know but at the same time like the the the jam short though and it's like you're a stature the the gem use it seems interesting so people are in a weird place where they're like this looks like sure we'll probably play it but it feels a bit odd and then like three fighters also in a bit of a weird place right now two yeah so there's just a weird like like malaise air around capcom right but everyone was like fine we're still gonna buy and play them but i wish they'd kind of get it together really what they need to do is re-release marvel 2 with the online bring that back because then i think that's like

well they released it last gen but yeah they should re-release it again this it's not like they don't re-release games it's not like they took it down because the disney deal disney's like we don't own marvel now we want to make our own games with the with the uh the infinity well they they did that with um for infinity 3 they made it so that that game was the only one that had the force awaken storyline and so and you know like taking it out of uh battlefront battlefront battlefront had one um force awakens thing didn't it had one stage very vague yeah it was it was a lot it was a little bit it was the um the the the downed at or something that was uh or whatever but i mean like that came out with the movie and it didn't have kylo ren like on the cover

stuff like that like can you believe that like just when you think about that it's like one of the biggest movies of the the fucking decade yeah and i assumed they were gonna just dlc drop on that like crazy but yeah that was that was a bit odd um but the punctuation at the end of that sentence was just that and then dragon ball fighters z got announced and that just went it went from this weird like i guess we'll try this out to fuck capcom move like like you know the chappelle skit where he puts his hand on the girl's face and just pushes her out of the way yeah it was that because oh my god dragon ball looks so good that everyone's like all right we're done here finally finally yeah and uh three was pretty good but let's let's do this and so that's

kind of the thing is now unfortunately like marvel's in a place where it's just like it's the punchline at the end of your meat like post you know there's another game that's hyper fgc wise there's another game that's three versus three and there's another game that looks a thousand times better visually aesthetically so it's like and and they said we're 20 percent complete we're 20 percent complete and even when it does come out they said early 2018 that's still going to be only a couple of months later than september this year so you have so you have your hyper game 3v3 replacement and then currently you have games like tech n7 which are fucking killing it yeah where people are like yeah maybe i'll play this instead of three five or five and then justice

too well yeah that's that's there i mean it's there it's true i don't think it's gonna last a long time but it's it's currently happening yeah yeah um and uh yeah i think like these sort of alternatives that popped up where you're like oh i can go and find other really great fighting games right now that are not capcom games are people are like opening their eyes and wiping the cake off a little bit and i know and to me myself included going like huh there's other things out there that really japan being so wacky where arms outsells both streetfighter five and tech n7's combined sales i did not hear that that's crazy well only in japan but like it was 700 units short of outselling both those games's first week in one day wow so they put your waifus in your game

mouse i mean i bought an arm shirt at this con yeah well i mean hate like me too but like it slapped like you know all the the disclaimers on it like it's a new console and it's you know what i mean like my first part first party nintendo release there's a lot of things there but still that's really impressive um okay i think we should actually just roll right into some letters yeah yeah why not that's about the time we've got sure yeah so let's do it um dear darik and grace how did you know someone's listening to us right now if you've got a mail and you want us to read it where should it go you can send it to super best friend cast at gmail.com darik that's super best friend cast at gmail.com but hey hey sometimes that's a lot of

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all right we got what coming in from uh tishane and tishane says uh this rftv is officially dubbed the golden era due to the quality of writing acting production composition of televised content over the past decade i'd ask are we in the golden age of gaming gaming is more popular and relevant due to mobile handheld console and pc gaming having a wider and more diverse user base than ever yet the amount of critically acclaimed games also seem to be more frequent now than ever also as any medium ages it becomes harder to innovate and surpass the greatest pieces of engineering and storytelling in years past reviews are more critical the gaming community is as fiscal as any other consumer base fickle maybe or fickle fickle fickle was also fiscal in

the sense that people are like i don't want to pay like twenty dollars for your indie game like fuck you miss miss spelled fickle that's fine yet critically acclaimed games are popping up very frequently eleven of the twenty highest rated games on metacritic were released in the last 15 years are we actually witnessing the golden era of the medium or does it pale in comparison to times past nostalgia removed i'm not sure because there's a lot of correct like there's a lot of bad practices going on that that didn't happen years ago it's a lot of like shit there's a lot of negativity there's a lot of marketing like griminess and and disgustiness online has changed a lot of what you can do when it comes to marketing and the idea of you know piecemealing dlc-ing

what was it buy to pay b2p mini buys mini buys and and and then our favorite like i square unique style pre-order categories where the earlier your pre-order the more you get collectively together you could all announce the date of release up announcements of announcements of teaser trailers it's it's gotten to this weird place because there's so much out of it out there that standing out is hard but he is right that like yeah as a result quality really high quality high competition level but there's also like big disasters that have happened like untested buggy games and disappoints people like there's been big disappointments in the last like five years i'd say i think that like for me we always go back to 1998 we always go back to 1998 we do we do

um but it was the first year that it's every 10 years it's like because now i feel like right now 2017 in particular it's like we've had just this dry spell and then all of a sudden it's like these fucking bangers have been dropping definitely early on this year was crazy january to march it was like slow what is happening yeah everyone is looking at the pile and it's going like i can't i think it extends into may like well it's like mass effect was like the one game where it's like oh finally a bad one okay thank god put that one off it's not sweating oh Jesus yeah no it's funny i think like it's something that happens though with but definitely we've seen it with movies where like over time movies have had some bad years but yeah but movies have gotten like especially big big

franchises it's gotten safer there's now a formula for how to make a good sequel and i think like it won't rock the world but it won't upset you like Jurassic world right i think you're getting things like that where you're like yeah this is the new entry and it pays enough homage to the old one and respects it enough but still is entertaining in this way and like that's happening i made like billion dollars billion dollars people come on yeah this so safe sequels are a thing and i think that happens a little bit with video games and that's part of the reason why this is kind of happening but yeah at the end of the day you if you just want to be objective about it like we've had a lot of these great games we're talking about this year are all sequels

like breath of the wild persona near on a matter of course like um they all this horizon is horizon isn't it but like everything else that tends to go on that list of all seven yeah and i mean you want to and we go back to the main uh but what's interesting is all of those are a fresh take on an old formula maybe with the exception of i haven't played the original near it seems like it's kind of close no it's a fresh take you would say i'm stepping in oh my god it is similar but it's fresh enough like i think the gameplay is good now this is what happens how fresh is persona five over persona four uh it is the same mold just they change the it is the same mold but like the style is oozing harder of course of course yeah it's the name of the still no one really comes

at persona like persona so even if it is another one of those it's still it's fresh enough yeah i think it's ups and downs it's you know like any other medium is trends come and go things go up and down are we on the golden age no but i think we might oh that's debatable but i think we might look back at 2017 2016 and be like oh yeah that was a great yeah time yeah you know like 97 or 2001 was also a really really good year like 2004 was like halo sue and the 2005 was like re4 that was re4 yeah but here's the thing 2005 like our re4 came out january 12th it like yeah it was supposed to come out three days after halo too yeah but the point i'm trying to make is that like every couple of years like it's just like man so much good shit came out you know what you're not gonna

do i'm sure there'll be some outliers but you're like oh man 2011 yeah yeah yeah yeah no no i don't know 2011 was skyrim in san joseph three the 2011 was a hell of a year actually i remember 2014 was how's the lord war i was the best game that year i remember 2007 was a year that like we all like we're like looking at the street one uh was when was out of the classes how are the actual shadow classes of 2000 or that was a war okay yeah okay there's there yeah there's definitely a mid odds year that you can point to that is like that's the 1998 of the odds you know um but what the reason why i'll say like i'll say no but because i think that back in 98 there was no bar and that happened and like you got these like like genre changing was that half life uh 98 we

you know what we're um solid um uh arena might have been yeah it already 299 yeah ff7 was 97 yes 97 so yeah it was but it was definitely that like short period of time of like i can't believe video games because i just my brain doesn't understand what's happening when 3d was out but it was a year or two away from the start and i remember like a lot of your videos you're like super early 3d not great like you're like n64 you know what's really good mischief makers yeah it's doing 64 you know it did really really good 2d but then like two years after that then people really started like firing on someone who's how to make 3d games so where i was going was that it's that it feels like it is objectively the best it's ever been but the bar is higher now yeah right

the expectations we have mean that you'll never get another 98 and it'll never feel that impactful even though you can look at it the list and go one for one on all of these things it's big our expectations are higher and i think we're going to continue on that path i think we're going to be like at this place where every couple years we're going to have another banger here incredible games yeah but now we'll just feel a little bit more like blase about it because we're kind of like yeah that's about right thank you but i think there's something also about my stake as they i mean part of the reason that we are feeling like oh okay thank you is because like of the money involved that means that the safeness the homogeneity of the content

is going to be more it's all going to kind of grow into itself like sort of like how the mummy is trying to be like trying to do a marvel cinematic universe yeah like the dark universe dark universe it's so dumb it tries so hard on that one no no no no they got it right because it is a very dark universe going forward oh god god bless brendan frazier's instagram oh yeah where he's just when he just tweets out the meme of brendan frazier laughing at the mummy reviews going if it ain't broke don't fix it yeah love it but yeah just like everyone trying to set up these proven money-making formulas even like the rise of prestige tv that's like sort of going off of that game of thrones like uh sex explanation like if you see more hb o yeah like hb oifying it or is like it's

going around in more places i would argue that we are at the end of the golden era of tv because now we're at the point where there's like too much money too it's too safe we're gonna see that kind of break it if netflix counts though i like i i feel like it would be the same as the last thing we're just like our bar is higher but like if it like house of cards is so fucking good and that like shit like stuff like that is coming out and getting released on the regular and like just find about a new netflix show that we're like we want to get home right now to watch it you think gorgeous ladies are wrestling yes yes i'm so excited oh my god no trappers every gift of glow looks so fucking good that documentary was hell good that was really yeah and it's just like and

it's just like again like you can have a series like that or like i mentioned black mirror before and like like tons of people are like what i yeah i guess i scrolled past it but i never bothered yeah and then again house of cards and stuff and they'll sit there on your list of like there's too many other good things to watch right now that i'm like there's no way that's not the best tv's ever been you know but i just we expect so much more but there's no night court there is no night court not right now so the answer is a full house came back where's fucking night oh god that first episode full house that was uh i never watched full house so i really don't have any of this all then then then you wouldn't but i just watched that i was like what is is this

is remember remember this is fucking i remember i laughed at a couple of it's kimi gibbler so bad there she is you know what you're talking about oh boy um it's not great but i laughed at some parts i was just cringing like just felt bad that no but you're not supposed to cringe you're supposed to cringe and like oh you cringe into happiness like yeah it's so that never happened for me okay i was not fuller house it's not for Derek it's fine it's okay pull some cringy you like funness you like it when it's fun it's not depressing fuller house kind of because i can't feel oh no i feel so sad for those actors like yeah more you're falling more it is hella crazy for this if you watch one more you watch one more episode and it does get depressing when the rest of the

cast leaves no yeah that's true but you remember those cuts on important video playlist it was like what if full house was just just a moment hey ashley like so you took the drugs right it's like yeah then it just cuts to credits like depressing full house or whatever but yeah tai shane the answer to your question is sort of not really i'll kind of agree that like yeah the the like if you go by metacritic if you go by like the quality of a lot of big releases like yeah but at the same time it's like what will you say and i kind of feel it's like it's not the same impact and there's a lot of other industry grossness that happens that i still kind of think holds yeah back from being a golden age media in itself is struggling right now and so a lot of those metacritic sites have

an advantage to being like oh everyone loves zelda so let's give zelda a 10 out of 10 like let's drive people to our website and of course breath not it's not to say i didn't love breath in the wild but i don't know some of those reviews of f***ing skyward sword made it seem like a lot of places are like no i don't really care about zelda all right uh we got one coming in from chris he simply wants to know super they're super mega hype friends do you guys think there could be a game like friday the 13th but for nightmare on elm street that could be interesting but the fact the whole fact that uh never announced it's all about dreams like friday doesn't attack you like on elm street you know unless you're dreaming about elm street but um that could be interesting

that the maps could be psychedelic or just wacky and crazy things could happen his mechanics could be nonsensical because they're dreamworld powers right that that's very true but in a multiplayer only setting i still feel that's hard to you know maybe potentially balance because jason would be supernatural in his moves in the game or like he can morph from one area and map to another he can burst through things he can like be stealthy but like for friday like it could work i'm not saying but i've been talking with people i'm like i want a predator game so that i was about to say then like let's make the question better what franchise would work better predator okay right so like everyone soldiers can fight back but one person is the predator it's the exact same

as the movie it's six guys running around the jungle fighting one how about the avp game where there was like humans yeah no no that was just all multiplayer it was just deathmatch so there's just everyone's trying to kill everybody it want a bunch against one person how about call of duty where you play as the predator but that was that was still everyone versus everybody oh god i don't video yeah i this is your territory because i i don't know if you guys in an asymmetrical thing where it's it's like evolved where it's one person's the monster one powerful thing because the is your franchise you can see that would that would i was thinking like psychonauts and friday the third of nightmare and also it would work best because psychonauts every

you know level took place in someone's head yeah to me it's like the big gameplay game make transition that i would see work for games is like you'd be setting because everyone's dream is different and that's that that would then decide the rules even in the films like then you know freddy does what he does and he can grow into the dream that the child's having yeah so whereas you could have this asynchronous multiplayer thing because jason's just a force and he you know he prowls and he stalks but uh there's it's deeper what freddy does you can't really compare them you know that's why they were kind of the co-compepsy they're apples and oranges um so it wouldn't work at the same way but you could do a freddy game and do it right i just like the single-player game

right psychonauts would work yeah yeah just the opportunity to make a truly video game ass video game where it's like all right now we get the opportunity to if we want to even though these are the worst like we could bring in an ice level and it doesn't have to make sense you know i mean we could totally fuck with people we could suddenly make this a like dead rising situation where you can use anything as a or dynamite you know dead rising and dynamite copper yeah just like we can suddenly just do that like i got lost but again how could you pull that off as a multiplayer thing that isn't just busted the whole time and that yeah it would be it would be interesting like even alien just alien yeah and the alien dlc we play in isolation

that's still not the same thing you're one person from a first person perspective and you have to go to checkpoints and do whatever but just alien just it's just six or seven people yeah in a large ship fighting one enemy that has a has certain advantages and everyone else has certain advantages and i'll have to work together to defeat that thing yeah well my answer is pretty much well no no it's the same because whatever like well you're yes yes it is the right no the the every time we talked about evolved the thing i'd always say is there should have been a predator monster or a human a human sized hunter instead of a giant that can take out the team on his own yeah and you can get all the benefits of being that small with other crazy shit right so i totally agree um

but yeah i think that that's fine that's a decent enough answer ooh a bug's life where you guys have to fight against hopper like a hopper player character all right all right so move on uh and then we're just back to pick on the frame that's i just want more Cyrus just wants to weigh in about the whole uh uk ac situation oh yes please apparently we found out that they don't sell air conditioners in england they should and it's just not a thing that people own so i was giving people tips on how to make your own home a c but it's weird that they don't sell them with hair conditioner air air okay because all over there they're like for like uh 10 months out of the year they're like we don't need air

condition okay well that's that's sort of what he's explaining is like right he's like we don't have a c because it's cold and shitty 99 percent of the year and three or four days of heat does not justify the existence of a c but it's not like that in montreal like no no no from from may to september it can it can be hot so there's air conditioners like usually we're because like in seattle and especially in alaska where we're from like there's no there's there's no air conditioner in in alaska no no absolutely it's not a thing well yeah yeah i'm sure sure and when it gets hot seattle though it's it's it's it's getting a lot hotter so it's actually maybe but you could certain stores are getting them a bit now but like you know a couple years ago that was not

an issue and then now you know the northwest is getting a little bit like styrofoam coolers with the fan and ice yeah twisting up the copper twisting up the copper and zip zip tying it to a fan and then getting a section tube with uh siphoning siphoning water and you keeping it above the gravity like point of the exit and cold water he's a mad man it's great it works but uh yeah i know that that like montreal heat gets uncomfortable and does last long enough that we have aces because it like extreme highs like it'll go into that um after you guys uh the 80s or the 90s on the really hot days right uh okay so mike says uh willy have you very too busy dusting off your franco pops is that why you haven't been doing esoteric facts uh well that was a

you and that was a liam bit and i stopped it when liam left and i did one every episode up until that point they got really really subtle towards the end they the last couple people didn't even know they were happening but i promise you i did it for every episode until liam left uh it was basically i'd work in the number of the episode in casual conversation and you'd catch it or you wouldn't yeah so like for episode 64 i'd be like i had a really good time playing mario 64 because that's obvious but then when you get to like a obscure can you remember one i did like drops like some s cps i talked about one time i can't remember any at this point but whatever they came about go find them have some fun if you want to listen to previous episodes if you didn't hear it

it's not that you didn't do it yeah good enough yeah that's true it's true level up your ears um okay steamboat says what is the hardest and cruelest form of betrayal you've ever seen in like anything in media in media now here's the problem with this question it's spoiler it's very spoiler so by nature if you're gonna say it about a certain series or the thing or whatever i guess try to dance or maybe like say what the series is it might be old to say cover your ears yeah it's old then whatever right this one isn't even my mind that sprung to mine immediately isn't even like a spoiler necessarily if i could just go and jump on this it's like once parasite e1 happened and then all of a sudden you get the advertisements out for parasite e2 you got this you

know chick this woman this beautiful strong woman who like was able to take on these monsters take on her second one and the second one the second advertisement is literally just like her gun it's just wedged in between her breasts and like she doesn't have a shirt on all of a sudden and it's like you can just tell like oh they just don't they portrayed her character i would lobby that the transition from two to three is even worse than that yeah her birthday i've heard things but have you and you played too though the no i can't forget so i i just i got i got my my derrick my my parasite e expert and actually i'm not even really sure you might actually be thinking parasite e2 to three i might be thinking of like i've just seen the pictures and like

fuck you i loved that parasite e1 had a couple uh she wearing a dress got the long leg to a shower scene yeah but no no rep and some gorgeous uh pregnant bodies and then but two was also kyle fucking madigan oh the cool guys here with the gun but no kyle i love him like it was really really i love how angry you get when you talk about that that one like that three notes that happened in dust town or whatever yeah it's a boring baseline you hate it it's all i got like i just played through it or i was just on an lp with it and like went through it dude i know exactly the light you're talking about and you go back there so many times in fact you think it's the first zone where you're like okay this is the dusty case i'll close it and go back to another

no the whole game is this dusty area it's like the i made the delusion to like mel your solid too when you're like okay i was at the tanker and i'm at the big shell where's part three oh wait oh it's all the big shell it's all more shell more shell hey you wanted more shell no here's more shell i don't want more shell god yeah uh do you have your forms of betrayal form of betrayal again spoiler warning for a thing it's it's hard i would have needed like a i mean i mean i guess i guess berserk i can just say berserk and anyone would know what i'm talking about sure of course i zen taicho from bleach when he takes the glasses off and tucks oh god what a fucking garbage ass piece of media um yeah i'm so bad with these types of questions i

would like i would i would have had to meet this like a half hour ago so i could like really think yeah yeah it's a little bit hard to pull it up on the fly but i mean the obvious ones does do go to berserk berserk is is a real because it's it's built up so well you know we make jokes about it constantly but it's honestly probably the best oh or wait even my story from earlier with pikmin i i betrayed those first when you said it i was like that's a huge betrayal to the pikmin's love for you yeah yeah yeah so there's a couple of real good twists and snatcher don't spoil those i mean like it's it's about robots pretending to be human yep turns out some of the people you guess what our rent

bro are they they're actually robots but and also there's a good that's not even a buttress a good they do a really good twist on that concept because it's like a person you thought was a robot or wasn't a robot is a robot but then there's a good twist on that that's not really the trail to say i'm sorry i got really nothing snatchers got some good shit yeah that's just fucking great game man i love that uh good stuff yeah okay we'll take a couple um they're woolly man potential guests whoa uh what unique weapon that isn't usually utilized would you like to see a main character wield instantly i have an answer that's the sickle and chain for uh that we never get to see much out of anywhere it's in neo that's it that's it that's it i want chain and sickle as a main

character's weapon you want you want to have people quake with fear or quick with fear or axel low or axel one last one yeah just give me more of that or a cool guy from vagabond just yeah it's such a cool weapon i know i kind of talk about them but you know aside from maxi i can't think and maybe michael angelo there needs to be more nun chucks in general yeah i guess it's more just like uh like it's like a yeah it's a bit of a fancier club in the sense that like it hits yeah but you know it's not as late as cool so you can get harder that was asked about so what was the question again um underutilized weapons you would like to see what unique weapons isn't that isn't usually utilized would you like a main character to wield star tropics is a great

game we need more you know you know you know you know you know you know i just wanted to get the question right okay and it's like no all right yo yo it's final answer right so mine is and that this is something i think about a lot is i want there to be more um like i want like a dynamite cop but in this era we're literally like everything is interactive we need everything's a weapon i want kill people with chopsticks punch lasers on the world yep i want to like fried chicken just coming out coming at me hot you know what i mean like i want an entirely interactive world where everything is deadly yeah there's not that many games that kind of have that as a feature anymore like the early 3d games kind of did like dynamite cop or fighting force where you can just pull things off walls

right i just feel like we're at a level of technology now where it's like we gotta go back to that right yeah the yakuza lets you use a lot of shit that's hanging around like you can kill people with like nails where they take nails and they just jam it into people's so yeah that's one thing about yakuza that like i i always like yeah i well i want whatever people make the shenmu comparisons i'm like yeah but the combat is so much more in depth oh yeah yeah um the the subject of the question was lasers is the right answer fyi but that would but then it's like but then it's over everything lasers coming out of guns the most tired like future version of maybe they mean like using like light i don't know like i don't know taking a prism it's like that is incorrect lasers is that

basically a dance dance revolution moba where you just like you shoot the pad out of your eyes and the person just has to yeah like injustice half its cast shoots lasers yeah you know yeah don't do that um yoyo's alternatively uh something that was yoyo chucks something like uh like a game based around a character like sombra where you're like hacking is your way of if your method of attacking would be really fun it's called watch it's called mindjack it's called watch it's called watch jack it's called mario odyssey it's called it's called jack dogs secondary one yeah uh just get the portal gun of course the yeah yeah yeah uh okay one coming in from ultra space delta says super best of friends uh throughout the history of the channel we saw matt and pat talked tons

about their feelings on re but sometimes on the front cast i hear woolly mentioning some stuff about the franchise and i never felt like he goes in too deep with like the others my question is what's your experience with resident evil how'd you start playing it what's your opinion on the games uh the others can feel free to jump in and talk of course okay so this is a more targeted one and i guess the reason why i don't talk about it as much as because yeah as a whole survival horror games are more urine pasting they are even before the channel like as far as i know you played four and five and that's it yeah and of course because that's because i was waiting for the definitive experience that we call the umbrella chronicles and dark side chronicles so if you uh valiant

listener listen remember you don't have to play resident evil four or five don't waste your time you can get the best parts of that experience by playing through umbrella chronicles and it's sequel dark side chronicles rail shooter extraordinary it cuts the fat item inventory management stuff you just don't need you just gets you where you need to go why are the zombies here where did they go who made them those questions are all answered and it's all you need yeah exactly what are you guys doing a bit but i can't actually tell people in earnest don't play resident evil four because you're crazy are we doing a bit you don't know us that way no in general in general i i yeah i just never jumped on the survival horror train that early on and as a result never

grew a massive like you know um uh whatever attachment to them so you played one silent hell game as well as far as i know i played shattered memories i loved it it was great i played re4 i loved it it was great i played five it was fun co-op yeah that's what i hear about that one but that was about it story was the one of the dumbest things ever but uh yeah it's a franchise that i'm content to jump in every now and then and it's a it's a genre that i'm content to jump in every now and then but i don't feel the need to follow it because it's just have you done seven yeah yeah seven seven yeah seven's a good kind of song no but that that would be next on my list i highly recommend yeah absolutely certainly but not before near horizon uh uh uh uh like

zeltov already done working on persona right now but not before everything on the list of holy shit will you gotta get on these right away like that's priority number one and like survival horror game will usually be like yeah eventually because i mean it it's just yeah i'm just i don't know it's just a personal thing yeah i would i would say you should be short like r7's relatively i mean especially compared to like but like if you're ever to just back into the survival horror well it's like and why don't you play dead space before you play oh dead space one holds up that game is still fucking great and the fact that it's third person does appeal to me yeah but um yeah i you know there's not much beyond that it's just a like i like puzzle games because i don't know

but i don't play the horror survival horror as much because i don't know i just you know just interesting because there is kind of an overlap there with a like yeah with item i see a puzzle yeah perhaps but i mean just puzzles in certain survival horror games which i know how complicated they are can be kind of terrible but yeah i get but i guess i kind of like i don't i find like basic scares to be like kind of like yes you know i'm i'm one of those people that i'm like i'm like fucking annoyingly elitist about alien you know like i love that i didn't know that that existed in the world yeah i love alien so much that like other dumber scares like unless i'm in the right party mood mindset i'm just like make it really cerebral make it make me feel it you know more

survival is silent hill games i guess i guess so i don't i don't i don't i don't i don't i don't i defend silent hill one it's jenki and it's a little old but it's got fucking heart it silent hill one i think is got a lot of charm to i actually played silent hill two for the first time ever like this year and it's easily my top five of games of all time cool at this point it's amazing uh and sure you know uh we'll take one last one from jude and he says they're super best broadcasts i really love cathartic and satisfying moment in games especially moments like when you have to go through a sequence of powerless or limited uh we'll go through a sequence powers are limited what's funny i just love it i really find it it's like relaxing cathartic when

i betray i love that moment when you really stick it to someone that doesn't deserve it uh only to get a ton of power later so that you can come back to a thing that previously gave you trouble and absolutely crush it some good examples that come to mind for me are getting your suit back in zero mission and the entire final sequence of inside what is yeah that's a good one what are your favorite cathartic or satisfying moments like this in games that's a good one that's a good one the the the last sequence of inside that's that's i never thought i'd super metroid when you get super power from your metroid baby and you are like you just destroy mother brand yep that's a good one like this is like different versions of this question pop up every 15 episodes or so yeah and

the answer invariably for myself and for pat is vanquish the last part of vanquish you unlock the limiters it's a really great moment um but in the sake of like variety uh i'm gonna give a different answer this time and say any rpg where you get so strong that you walk into the enemies on the overworld and just pop them like yeah where it's like this fight doesn't matter to you keep walking it's like it's like i just i i gesture of my wrist and i move past you you're not yeah you're nothing to me so uh with that let's wrap it up i got one thing to add sorry i forgot and i remember for me the trail in video games is jennifer fight in slatterhouse where she turns to a monster and you have to kill her that's a hell but that's that was that was like the moment where i fell in

love with that game because it was like just this fun horror romp and then this heart wrenching twist at the yeah yeah yeah but we can wrap up now sorry yeah no no worries um it's just yeah it's about that magical time yeah so uh with that what are you guys um what's coming out on your channel working people find you yeah and what are you looking forward to wow uh looking forward to get some rest but um yeah we are stop skeletons and fighting uh and um we have a couple videos in the pipeline i'm working on the history of the veteran of death uh great good one yeah grace you got a video coming out soon yeah we've got um kind of a retrospective look on pikmin like i mentioned before we got uh really soon we got a video a punching weight coming out about console

rts's uh just kind of dive into how genesis in there no but we got starcraft 64 we got so many we can go on do you have alien versus predator extinction no there's there's a lot there is there's more than you think yes i just wanted to do starcraft 64 that was got like that you guys better play the multiplayer and you better like be sitting under a coffee table to split the screen no that's the thing is like screen looking in starcraft like changes everything yeah it made us realize we need to do a punching weight that's just about that exactly just just put screen games so like we kind of touch on you'll see you soon okay you'll see us soon maybe by the time this comes out it'll uh be on our channel stop skeletons for fighting on youtube and instagram i have star

skeletons on twitter yeah yep uh we have a patreon we do have a patreon and we got t-shirts from uh fangame they're quite nice t-shirts i believe we talked about t-shirt mentioned sandwich here so yeah i don't know i'm trying to work a beetle reference in but fuck it um what you will continue fighting beetles we had a question from jew so someone say hey jew stop beetles from bad that's probably that's probably stop derrick from talking many have tried many have tried oh man derrick uh okay we have some stuff coming up yep tech and seven is gonna start real soon a bunch of fun one-offs otherwise and uh you got matt mcmuscle's on twitch is your thing yeah gonna stream more friday the 13th this week for sure uh

yeah more kingdom death monster over on woolly versus and yes i'm going to resume naruto i just need to build up the tolerance in my system for it yeah um and uh yeah uh if funko pops are found funko pops will be displayed they won't be found we'll see about that hey yeah who likes night court me