Castle Super Beast - SBFC 210: Mech_Romancer: A Transhumanist Robot Dating Simulator

Episode Date: August 15, 2017

Woolie beats Persona 5, Matt beats a bum knee. You can watch us record the podcast live on twitch.tv/superbestfriendsplay Outro: Life Will Change - Persona 5 OST Report: Okami HD Heading for Xma...s Release on PS4/Xbox On Hideki Kamiya: "to say that Yoko-san saved Platinum would not be an exaggeration." Middle-earth: Shadow of War has loot boxes For Honor player exploits his way to tournament victory Hidetaka “Swery” Suehiro to announce new game on September 2 Sonic Mania opening animation The King of Fighters: Destiny CG animated series episodes 1 and 2 now available on YouTube Rez Infinite now available for PC Arika’s “Mysterious Fighting Game” adds Allen Snider Nintendo hit by lawsuit over Switch design It’s Letter Time The WATCH

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Starting point is 00:02:50 berserk and I stopped watching it then I went to watch other things so yeah man um that's what's going on other things going on is patch unfortunately feeling not too good so he's out this week I had a knee appointment last Monday I'm sick today I don't know what's going around we rotate oh I gotta tell you some cool bionic shit about my knee now I'll tell you shit about your knee yeah well you might as well fucking open with that really okay well now I can give people tiger knees no but yeah like on eco knees back in pack cease when we're in a boss and my knee was really really bothering me and we'll guess what we're doing all
Starting point is 00:03:26 day walking around fucking all day standing in lines all day that's sure so I would I would pine I would fart furiously start jerking off if I saw a booth that had the nice padded carpet so I'm not like you know standing on the hard fucking concrete and just waiting in the line there so I'd always love that but like at that point like I come home from when we got back home to Montreal and I talked to my parents I was like how many knees like really fucked up and they're like okay well you should make an appointment now because you're not gonna get an appointment two months later because we go private for usually
Starting point is 00:03:58 that type of stuff you need to go see a knee specialist it's in a private you know whatever and so I finally got that appointment last Monday but my knees been fine for two months and I'm like you know you always have one of those things it's like okay well now my thing's fine so I'll just walk it off or I don't need to bother with it because now it's fine okay is it an orthopedist but is that just feet only the orthopedist go up as high as the knee I don't know do orthopedist what is the what is the range where the the foot guys like you handle everything above that level yeah I don't like those gross knees do do
Starting point is 00:04:37 orthopedists have do they go up to like just above the knee level knee level and stop man absolute territory that's gross is there like a set tie barrier level where the orthopedist and equator where they just don't venture yeah I don't know but it's the same guy that I saw back in 2003 and I always remember this I saw Return of the King when it came out okay and on the way home it came out in December and on the way home there's some ice and I slipped and just tore ligaments on my knee like on some ice and I had to wear a knee brace for like six months blah blah blah so I had the guy the same guy from back in 2003 look at my knee
Starting point is 00:05:15 and he's like three to five years you're probably gonna need actual surgery no and I'm and he's like you just the your cartilage is not great what I can do if you want now this is a really good stopgap measure is that they will inject a gel into your knee and it stops the bones from rubbing against each other okay you know like and in there he's like it's really really safe he's like actually hold on he goes through some papers and he's like I gave this to your dad like a year ago shit and I didn't know and I asked my dad was like that's true he's like yeah it helped out a lot like I haven't had a problem with it just
Starting point is 00:05:53 don't go play sports though well yeah okay just don't take any leg kicks yeah yeah yeah and of course he's like you need to you need to probably lose some weight too and I'm like yeah I know every time I go to a doctor he's like you know what a lot of your problems can be solved little fatty and he like pokes me and tell me I'm like yeah you need to do that too and I'm like all right fine so but like have you been holding down back to up forward to get the proper motion to get the with kick because it's just it comes out really inconsistently okay I can't get the motion down so I'm gonna see one two three six nine K I'm gonna see
Starting point is 00:06:37 about maybe getting that injection cuz they're like it's a it's a it's a few like it's an hour and then you're out like it's that type of quick and easy and easy out type thing so I'm as much as Pat hates needles I'm on board with a future where the solution to the most problem yeah yeah it's like what's going wrong with that part of my body I don't know inject the shit and I also have the fortunate no time I've ever gone injection for anything or a blood test whatever it's always cute nurses always helps you don't even like let's say you don't have anybody cute guys or girls hire a model that comes out of a room and
Starting point is 00:07:14 just looks at you so distracted that you don't pass out like you have Ryan Gosling come out look at me and say everything's gonna be okay and like oh they're drawing your blood but then they just they just have to look at your nose bleeding like oh we got all the blood we need exactly pretty funny aside from that I watched watch the first episode of of China proudly presents KOF destiny did yeah cuz that was on the that's on the docket but you can go ahead I watched the first episode but two episodes are out we talked about this when it was initially revealed and there was like a logo there's Keo doing a
Starting point is 00:07:55 special move yeah now it's about it and I watched the first episode and it's some it's not it's not great at all so all I saw was Thomas retweeting that picture of geese confronting Jeff and the front it's like why is geese wearing his new uniform and not old geese uniform so why are you flaunting the scrolls in front of him like I wrote a tweet that says KOF destiny makes KOF 14 look like KOF 13 yeah and that's visually like visually it's always terrible all the characters look they're from they look like they're from Unimaro 3d hentai animations they just look a little everyone looks off model
Starting point is 00:08:38 no one looks right well that screenshot in particular yeah was pretty rough so the nose visually it looks bad but it's like you know what at the end of the day KOF 14 still looks a little rough guess what that's still in a really good fighting game with lots of content lost delve into this is not that it looks bad and it is bad because the entire okay if anyone's seen the old fatal fury OVA like the first one or watch the intro to real bout mm-hmm not real about while the ambition okay CG one the CG clip is a wild ambition yes Jeff is always shown with Terry and and and Andy and they're on the streets of Southtown walking
Starting point is 00:09:23 around just like hey everyone what's up yo mr. Baker yo hey Jeff fighting into lettuce and this is like Jeff is like a woodsman he's wearing like a flannel like he looks like a lumberjack and it's Terry's 14th birthday and he's giving Terry his first red hat as a birthday gift and Terry's like how did you know and then he's like he elbows Andy and Andy looks nothing like Andy the elbows and he goes I don't know I someone told me he he and then the door just dramatically burst open and yeah geese old geese shows up yeah I have I'm okay with Jeff Boe guard as long as he looks like old-school America so if that
Starting point is 00:10:08 becomes slightly lumberjackie if that becomes more trucker or just even slightly farmery I'm on board with it because Jeff is like he's a character that's not super well-defined fair enough but that's like my like the minor saying the thing is that they have a fight and they Terry sorry Jeff and and geese have their knockdown drag-out brawl in a cul-de-sac yeah where there's people fucking mowing their lawns and there's kids playing stickball and all of the coolness of Jeff gets sucked out yeah all of the coolness of Southtown gets sucked out cuz Southtown is not there's no they're in the suburbs fucking
Starting point is 00:10:49 move to the suburbs suburbs in Southtown that's like saying it's a metro city like fuck you so the guess what also ah if you thought it was gonna be great no the fighting is also terrible in this show like everyone jumps 80 feet into the air start doing crazy air combos gigantic stupid hit sparks like it's that's fine I also saw crack shoots unsafe on block you should punish it it's just it was not great so that's just the first episode all the stuff with Keo and like Team Japan is just lame and slapstick and just damn everyone's fucking goofy Keo is goofy you know and I'm just like what was the point of this thing like I
Starting point is 00:11:31 pine for another day and that's sad when you pine for another day literally nothing happens that's just toast you know unbuttered toast it was fine but it didn't do much I guess I just don't think this thing's gonna be 24 episodes long oh my god yeah that's insane I didn't realize I didn't realize it was that it was a half an hour episode no okay it had the actual anime running time of 22 minutes yeah but seven of those remaining minutes were credits were ads for other things okay the production filler yeah it was like the actual episode might have been like 16 minutes or something because I just don't think
Starting point is 00:12:17 anyone over an SNK right now has those like storyline chops I think to really direct a full show and then that means they're getting someone else on board to do it and that's so weird I feel like you have to hand it over to someone like experience has experience like narrated like a 24 episode narrative like I don't know who's making it but like it's the animation is produced in China but also fighting game storyline you're gonna be struggling the whole time anyway what's what's weird is that it seems to be some pseudo reboot like it's the first king of fighters that yeah it's actually a reboot of King of
Starting point is 00:12:58 Fighters 1 where transitions from fatal fury being King of Fighters to the three-person team format because the invite that they gather like this is the first year they're allowing a team of three and then Keo's dad is just like oh yeah we'll fucking rock that shit then Keo's mom just comes in says no you don't I'm a Japanese housewife and he's like oh and then Betty Marrow just steps like and then they go off and then that's a size use is around yeah sizes sizes are all sizes around for the first two minutes you know I guess take I take back what I just said because it's like you can hire somebody and you can
Starting point is 00:13:35 probably I'm bet you the director of this is probably someone that's like maybe guys a couple random anime credits behind their belt but the actual way to save it slash make a good thing here would be to find the udon equivalent find udon you know what I mean like because like at the end of the day right for all the for the issues that udon comics did have they were the most coherent versions of those stories you would have to have the thing primarily produced in Japan and like give it yeah some other studio to like not just translate it but like is there anything that makes no sense they have to
Starting point is 00:14:11 display a willingness to work with a not Japanese company already why would they do that right this is fine of course and but it's just like you know of other companies have taken notice of like you know that their work at any in any way like like what they did with Street Fighter then they'd notice that like hey that turned out alright and the coolest thing I think was you know when you go to udon's like like stuff where it's like this is not even mainline we're doing side story books here yeah like okay admittedly Legend of Chun-Li wasn't super great but legend of Sakura was good legend Sakura was fine right and then
Starting point is 00:14:46 the Akuma origins was great and then they're coming out soon with the Kami legends exactly so like like as the Chun-Li book it wasn't awful but it was just like the first one it was not much going on to it with it but it got so much better after that and shows you that like their little side stories that are like you know off the main one which is the convoluted tournament plot are very coherent and they added original unique characters and the like the implied version of Ryu's father yeah right and things like that and that all really like ended up being good so like I have faith in them to come up with a
Starting point is 00:15:19 decent storyline for I wish I could have a convoluted story actually ask udon to like write a little Street Fighter animated project like a six episode thingy instead of like blessing that live action thing that was on machinima years ago yeah which was okay for what it was but it's not what I wanted I I mean it's I think I still think we're a long way from ever getting to udon officially working on the product on the games in any way I think that's all they did in terms of like making some endings here and there for like how come fighting jam and shit like yeah that's true you're right they did
Starting point is 00:15:56 that's that's that's as far as it went yeah but I guess like the idea that like they're doing talking about they did HD remix they did all of the art all the art but what I mean is like story yeah you know because like I said they're making more sense than a lot of the current official stuff is you know and like there's like I said there's problems you're gonna run into no matter what your tournament battle rotation fight story is yeah like currently what's happened Street Fighter comics it's Street Fighter it's it's new generation is happening right now okay in Street Fighter Unlimited it's their fighting
Starting point is 00:16:35 Gil Gil's invited everyone for a big tournament he has big plans with Alex that's that's like what's currently going on in Street Fighter Unlimited I think we're actually a few issues ahead of that but that's where it is so like they kind of the Street Fighter 2 is done in udon comics like it's super done what's confusing is that they already did four yeah or three well because they had to catch up with the game release you know so every time something new our new product is coming out they'd be like let's jump forward to this point they don't want to jump to five and then like like three is the only story that they
Starting point is 00:17:07 don't tell so I'm sure in the future five will still be like you know relevant and they'll do a comic the fact that five ties itself to three allow allows them to finally explore that maybe that's why they did it that way so does KOF actually start does it all begin in 94 I guess it must because I mean I guess it this is if this is where they go hey this is the first having the first episode does not even show who are there other invitations yes everyone's getting fancy invites but it has not shown who's giving them okay no idea who the the big bad is here okay what kind of shirt is Betty Marrow
Starting point is 00:17:48 wearing that's how we can learn the black it's always black the black shirt with no sleeves and has one slit one like nipple slit slit in the middle okay because the because what if that tells you what yeah because if any matters got like the bra strap going over one side okay all right I'm pretty sure like I said it's like some characters just look different like Terry has a different costume on okay like fatal fury one he looks more like fatal fury one long sleeve red jacket like sleep like white sleeves down to like his elbows and then the red jacket starts so he looks like fatal fury one Terry but this is KOF
Starting point is 00:18:29 94 yeah so it looks off I don't know I don't like it aside from that I really quickly I watched Resident Evil Vendetta which is the new CG movie again a lot of CG video game stuff I'm not gonna go too into it but it's pretty good it's the one people are saying are all right that's that's the latest one that just came out that has Leon Chris and Rebecca Chambers and I liked it I liked it the best out of all the CG movies it's not that it's not that deep of a thing it's a very simple plot a really bad Wesker stand-in that's just kind of there but really good action I enjoyed it for what it was I'll take those infinitely over
Starting point is 00:19:07 the live action movies but that's just me yeah well the other first two CG movies I think they're just is not just as bad as the old Paul Anderson's yeah I saw the airport one and one's not good and the second one damnation is not good and but it's like it has Leon in it though but the actual core movies like really boring after a certain point like when when you watch it and you're like okay this is pretty good and then when it actually starts trying to tell its story goes on way too long this one Vendetta is really good because it's very simple bad guy fucking kidnaps Rebecca that's it saver yeah you know so it was hard to
Starting point is 00:19:45 fuck up and then I don't think they did really quickly I also played dusk dusk is the new quake style like quake slash paratik hexon slash doom thing that we played at PAX East and its first episode first episode has 33 levels and multiplayer I believe I got a code for episode yeah it's in shareware style episodes play episode one and has 33 levels okay right that's a weird one well no because it's like like old shareware but I guess it's weird now that's the marketing approach we did a video for that when it was kind of like in in an alpha or something or a beta last year but now like it's it's coming out to
Starting point is 00:20:29 this tomorrow I think on steam so I got a few levels into that I was having fun with that Redeemer also came out on steam also played that at PAX East and I really liked it that's that overhead brawler yeah that monk yeah I'm sorry Redeemer violence awakened yeah this again we're gonna need to eventually have some way of sorting through all these titles these devolver style titles yeah yeah of absolver devolver redeemer ruiner yeah and I think there was at least one more I think there's there's at least one word so our Redeemer is pretty fun it's a little repetitive but I'm playing through it and the last
Starting point is 00:21:10 sort of thing as I told you but anyone that's like in the area the last couple days I was still in Toronto after we went to go con bravo please look up bravda p r a v d a it is a Russian russian vodka bar like and it was the best time ever as for Leanna's birthday but we just wanted to go like just her and I and it looks like a a hybrid of all of Zangief stages throughout street history okay has big statues of Lenin it has the the the sickle and hammer everywhere it looks like dancing bears no dancing bears but like girls and red cocktail dresses giving like saying here's our collection of vodka's this
Starting point is 00:21:54 is from this region it's very very smooth and va and some of it was like these vodka shots were just straight vodka and vodka I can do for like the first second it hits your mouth and then it goes down your throat I'm like I'm gonna take a look at some pictures here to see what you're talking about yeah yeah and some of the best food I've ever eaten where they're like alright well we have a collection of Polish sausages and I'm like yeah let me see your Polish sausages please like let me because my dad has has bought Polish sausages ever since I was kid from various like Polish you know metaries and I have a
Starting point is 00:22:33 distinct like I like that or I hate that or that's terrible that's better that's not authentic and they gave me like the best sausage yeah they had some amazing cocktails like clear chocolate vodka don't react to this keep talking but I'm gonna take a look at these pictures up here with like a salty chocolate rim on it there's an apple vodka it was amazing it was really good service and it just looked like you're in like an old timey theater with big drapes and everything it was so so fun so you're not kidding if someone is in Toronto looking for something to do I highly highly recommend going to
Starting point is 00:23:08 Pravda PRA VDA I you know most restaurants I don't even have like yeah whatever it was good but I'm like just go here if you want to go okay and I got like that perfect level of drunk okay where I was just like yeah but that's it okay you know it was it was it was great great time so yeah that was busy busy I got got drunk I have a bionic knee Dostvedania and KOF destiny is bad all right all right that we can work with that we can work with that we can work with that I also got an incredible early birthday gift from one woolly wools buh buh buh which is the Connecticut a fucking don Dante human
Starting point is 00:23:52 slide sorry Dante human slash devil trigger statue that's the official name I love putting that thing together that's a piece of work now that was art and you you have the Virgil too yes this box is so huge was it these sex straps that everything these black Velcro like yeah yeah yeah I'm like it's Velcro there's straps god that thing that was the most high quality packaging of everything that will never fucking break in so here's what happened what happened it used to break in there and this is there they've had they improved their bracket packaging drastically you're about this yeah well there I got emails
Starting point is 00:24:32 because it was but their first round of Virgil's went out and a couple people got some with a crack on them and they're like what the fuck because of the fucking money you know and they're like oh shit shit okay stop stop everything I'll pull it off so it was like a delay and they pulled it back they delayed it a bit to improve the packaging and they did drastically with those extra straps and everything and the massive styrofoam yeah and then they reset them out to everybody so that was that was their their improvement off of an initial run that unfortunately because I was I was impressed with the only thing that came
Starting point is 00:25:11 close as a Metal Gear Rex that was in the gadgets gigantic style but that was a pain in the ass to put together I like these new statue things where it's just like a giant peg in someone's torso yeah just slot everything in and it's done stuck and like I'm not sure if there's like magnet technology in there but sometimes they do there is there is there's magnets yeah cool 100% I love that so it keeps it in place and the fucking base of the thing is so heavy yeah they're like crumbling bits of the stage yeah it's the heaviest part I'm just pulling a brick out of the box it was it was dude when I pulled it I put
Starting point is 00:25:46 those things on my on my my like table dinner table area just to prepare them to put them up on the shelves pair them and like they left behind like traces of like rubber and like yeah stained the table is that you know what I mean like it felt like a craftsman's tool box on your table then you'd like take it off your table after an hour you're like oh it made it in the wood yeah so no one thing I have to say bad smell sure don't like the smell okay usually a pop open a figure I love the smell of like vinyl or the type of plastic to use but this statue stinky stinky statue oh well that's it wafted away after a little while
Starting point is 00:26:24 there's only 250 of them so it's a very limited problem very stinky limited but no it's currently my favorite thing that I have it should be that's a centerpiece and a half they push your girlfriend out of the way yeah the way you can add a kid's not fucking around and then they got that jury coming and all that other stuff like that jury I'm not a fan of her face so they're doing this Street Fighter realistic figures I guess they're like I think it's legacy or forget what the line is subtile yeah excuse me but that I remember they had the initial like hyper realistic Vega and Sagat right yeah I think it was them
Starting point is 00:27:00 so yeah they're getting into those her pose is awesome but like yeah it's classic jury though so for everyone that prefers that outfit anyway that you got me okay so over on my side I well I guess it's ongoing right but Game of Thrones Game of Thrones Game of Thrones that that things go in places on places holy fuck they're speeding up the plot on that with that of course people are teleporting across Westeros yeah so so you know obviously spoiler-free discussion here but well when the season's over well yeah but the fact that like I feel like there's like last week felt like two episodes in one this
Starting point is 00:27:45 week felt like three episodes in one just because of how much teleporting is going on exactly we've well we have now completely cut we've now unlocked fast travel yeah right the Game of Thrones as a show has unlocked has been to a place before he can get there and that's it right and we're now like it's like okay the journey from point A to point B we are no longer spending any time on the journey we're just getting to the meat and it's fucking awesome I really like that it's kind of like they have less characters or more characters have congealed into certain groups so when you say oh
Starting point is 00:28:24 character a have to go to point B they have less to cut back to yes so they almost just like fuck it just there now well converging storylines and converging timelines like makes it so that it simplifies how many places the camera has to go and I feel like from the start of the show where you jumped around to God knows how many characters a lot right I feel like then it felt like the story would like yeah it would move slowly yeah and and obviously like with any like you know good like super robot wars kind of tale you're gonna have the camera cutting back to two people of a what it's gonna come down to good and
Starting point is 00:29:02 evil you know like that's all your camera are doing two groups exactly so we're so we're simplifying and simplifying and pairing it all down and I'm excited for all that stuff and then of course there's the little subtle things that are dropped like little hints that you know as with everything they they they drop like backstory things that don't mean much in the present but if you've been following the Lord and there's that one moment where they're reading through a scroll yep and you go it's a chance for the most important bit of information ever and everyone's it
Starting point is 00:29:40 but it's not important to anyone in that room like so sandbag to harder than anything ever has been sandbag yeah one of the most important plot details mentioned in a cough yeah you know so it's fun it's fun that that that's how it treats really important things and then just kind of plays it off so God bless that's a show God bless that's that's a show I hope this show is it will be successful yes I I really I think you can what an upstart of a show yeah I don't know where this season seven these these roust about coming about roust about right filming renegade style a muffin who knows where they're gonna go
Starting point is 00:30:25 but I'm gonna keep an eye on these kids fortunes of this HBO start to get good for them oh nothing but everyone lend them lend Game of Thrones your support they could really use it right now so not to mention the inclusion of a main character becoming a ninja that's always fun I like that yeah yeah yeah but anyway why weren't you fucking Hayabusa Stark but anyway so I watched that I watched the first episode of the of the much-acclaimed American gods okay yeah I got two episodes and I couldn't find any more episodes gotcha right your wife was right you're you can't you can't bubble what you're way into any that's
Starting point is 00:31:23 fine I gotta wait for it to be released somewhere okay well American gods is Neil Gaiman's milk is a comic or is a graphic novel it will so it's a book it's a book right Neil Gaiman's book is is you know it's a series that he that he had those written whatever and then this has been adapted by someone important I forget who I believe it's the guy that worked on hand the Hannibal TV show right right okay okay so there's that right um yeah anyway and so I started this out and without having you know that like thing where you're like I just want to go in cold yeah get no information that so far just on the pilot at least is
Starting point is 00:32:07 probably the worst thing you can do for this show because really I'm so lost super hard right now just off that first episode and if I didn't have a friend basically when they were pitching it to me set up the premise of it's a show of about old gods versus new gods yeah and these are concept people you know it's like the it's a new god the god of the internet in America right yeah and I'm like okay just hearing that gave me some context because the show like Preacher starts out with he doesn't want to explain anything and I get that that's usually fine but usually by the end of like the first episode you drop a little
Starting point is 00:32:52 thing to go like oh fuck you know like Westworld or like even Black Mirror there's a little bit of a like okay let's keep clicking see where this is going a little bit and here I was just like you introduced a whole lot of people you didn't tell me who any of them were and then a whole lot of weird things happened and I have no idea why and no no and barely and like only one or two names were ever exchanged of the seven or so characters that got introduced it was a lot like that for me watching what's the what's the the X-Men show that I talked about I watch Legion Legion Legion is like that where it was just like here's a
Starting point is 00:33:30 lot of crazy shit and we're not gonna explain it Preacher got to where it needed to go by like half of the season I'm like okay I understand where everything because it was all out of order whatever American gods I kind of read up about it I watched some trailers I looked at vignettes of like here is this god yeah right so that helped me out but like I can see where cold is really rough here and it feels like it feels like most of the people that I know that like are way way way in are all going like yeah I read the book and now I'm really excited watching events unfold in the show you know like that's what it's like and so
Starting point is 00:34:05 when you have come that kind of context you don't have to worry about like you know what the fuck is everything well it's like when people would read that people have read Game of Thrones novels for decades of course before the show came out and we still had like you know it's a climate ties to alright we're in this country there's that country there's that group there's that group that there's that group takes a minute for you to get everyone's names down yeah but that's about it yeah American gods is a little bit more it's like virtual fighter well it takes you a little bit more work they take a little bit more
Starting point is 00:34:32 work and they and again I'm just going on the pilot they don't want to hold your hand in any way or give you any context yet you know so I hope I eventually do get that context because usually that's what like grabs you and holds on to you right what I will say so far is that the little mini like events that happen to all these characters in that first episode we're like weird and interesting there's some fun weird stuff that occurred and you know a bunch of like funny one-liners Swinger from dead wood yeah Ian McShane Ian McShane is or better known as the dad from hot rod oh god I didn't even know that yeah I didn't
Starting point is 00:35:16 connect those dots that uh that dude is a real actor he's a thespian yes that guy and I oh I used to have that small role in Game of Thrones last season he was like that guy that the hound kind of shacked oh right right right yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah the little town he did he did and you know when he shows up that he's not playing a bit role you know although I always mistake him for Alfred Molina yeah you're right especially Alfred Molina now he's a bit older but Ian McShane is dope I fucking love him and I love I will follow him through the grave through his work exactly yeah definitely gonna keep watching but
Starting point is 00:35:55 hoping for a little bit more now by the second episode yeah like I was like oh okay a little bit of hip guiding yeah yeah good well it's got eventually because like that shows kind of do that now they're like they don't they don't just off the top of my head I'm trying to think of some right now but like yeah preacher was one that they take a while to and it seems more like nowadays like I'll see people Twitter saying I don't really like this show like how far did you get like this two episodes and it's like if you have watched that entire show or like I've gotten really into it it's like the Marvel Netflix show is like
Starting point is 00:36:32 try to blast your ass out on the first episode and there is that style of TV show but I don't think you can have all of them be like that some have to be like or some just to try to be different like they go alright here's some characters and here's you want to intrigue you into it rather than like you know and the people involved on this project are all like of such high a claim that I'm like I'm expecting you know good things here like people are not like like there's multiple recommendations like dude fucking get on that American guys you know so yeah I'm definitely gonna keep going and
Starting point is 00:37:06 see how that goes so beyond those two things I have finished persona five finished yes I want to say 137 hours no that's more or less than when you finished for that is I think it's around no okay I remember p3 was 127 yeah I forget what it was for for I forget what my safe was on for completely but yeah so I'm done I just need to go back in like I guess clean up well I mean I'm not gonna do the new game plus I'm just gonna YouTube the the social links right that you I haven't completed exactly and yeah I guess you know what's Pat's done we'll have our big proper spoiler cast and stuff but what I can't
Starting point is 00:37:59 say is that well okay how about a favorite persona not favorite like where is it oh man well it seems to be a load okay yeah the favorite persona I mean game oh sorry okay sorry I thought you meant demon no no no I was like fuck dude there's a lot of them okay and right now my pick is going to choking good Corinne like I'm sure yeah it's it's so here's the thing is they all have different strengths yeah right and I think oh god and our set is such a good holy fuck what a good design anyway no they all have different strengths and I think that this game has the best the absolute best like style middle of the
Starting point is 00:39:00 game like plot and reveal and moment to moment and that story and adventure right like your journey through the start through your journey from the start through the middle of the game is is absolutely absolute best that of the three that I've played right I feel like the culprit in four is still the better still the best as far as like you know you're you're that's your bad guy goes right I still think that's a better character I love so much about what that character represents and I don't know a whole bunch but if I like it was to gleam anything from a bunch of friends I've also been percent of five they're
Starting point is 00:39:42 like I was a little cooler on the cast overall like the cast of characters in five over four I love no I love this cast I really like this cast a lot I feel that like it's a hard it's I don't want to I don't even want to start like ranking them yeah because I just I like them all as characters and I feel that they benefited from the modern game having you know better writing more tech to show off their emotions and expressions right you know like they benefit from the from time showing them off in technology exactly you're showing them off in a better light than you know say the p3 characters got you know back
Starting point is 00:40:21 on an older console so but yeah so but just to get what I was getting at is that I think yeah the three games they all have like a standout feature and I think p5 has the best like main story I think p4 has the best villain and I think p3 has the best finale is there anything in p5 that you felt was just like actually stood out as maybe weaker like or is it all just like everything fine and then the other games just had something better like you just said the villain no the so the villain in p5 is excellent okay but the villain in p4 is perfection okay you know what I mean like that like it's so good it's it's
Starting point is 00:41:07 very hard to top that and rightfully so they didn't but there's some really good stuff in there some odd but unexpected major heavy references to death note and throughout this story yeah well way to strike while the iron is hot it's interesting no but it's straight feels like it feels like not like a reference and that's in the sense of like like hey guys look but it's more like a like this is a send up to this type of character okay you know in the way that Q is like a send up to you know your old robo robo detective yeah that cliche from that from like the fucking 70s right you know and your your kikider style faces okay
Starting point is 00:41:51 okay like you have it's not like hey hey death note hey that's just like no it's just like here's here's a reference to this character that existed upon it what's part of time for enough Betty Maru is a reference to Polnareff right so that's what it is anyway so I think that's that that that's you know one of the things going on there and then the final like you know the final final escalation up to your credits is I think the weakest of the three okay because and the problem here is not that it's like not dramatic and not that it's not done in a really cool way it's done in a fucking very cool way but the first time
Starting point is 00:42:33 it happened in p3 you would you didn't expect it at all right I didn't expect it at all I should say so it's almost like it's almost like by the fifth game it's how do we top you're kind of doing the same thing it's also like how Liam is like man the ending of Bayonetta 2 the lead-up and the final boss is like a 9 unfortunately Bayonetta's ones was like a 12 right right right where you when you didn't know what you were getting into it fucking rocks you and that I'll always feel that way about the end of p3 you know the way the the it's the first time you get to experience this like well for me the first time I got to experience
Starting point is 00:43:11 this like insane God battle where it's just dudes are dude is just like game wiped out a logging at you as you're going on and I mean with the exception of like Digital Devil Saga because that goes into some fucking crazy places yeah I've heard with the Brahmin but this though is your own it's only hurt slightly by the fact that you see it coming because you're like this is the way persona games yeah you know that's fair it is cool though because early early on in like the persona 5 like like advertising and you know like marketing and such there were some themes and concepts and stuff that they introduced
Starting point is 00:43:53 that you kind of like we're like that's weird and I don't know what the fuck that's about but okay and then you go through this game and you kind of just get used to the whole Phantom Thieves and like sneaking around and being a cool suave debonair you know thief guy that also that stuff like when I saw that that reminded me of like old anime is like 70 80s like reminds me of Lupin yeah so that's what's super cool is that one um yours your your main characters persona is Arsene Lupe that's what the rep that's what let's literally who your stand is okay to your a Phantom Thief right and in p4 there is the the
Starting point is 00:44:36 detective Prince the ace detective Prince is like a character that is like the detective Conan Slido style young solves everything genius 2000 IQ you know which is a number that doesn't even make sense but that's what that's what they used you know and they and so you and they were always like chasing after the Phantom Thief yeah you know so this is the bastard and it would just be a name that they just throughout there is like the counter foil you have your your Sherlock Holmes in your Arsene Lupe in this case it's like you're now stepping into that role you know so it's really fun and that when that way
Starting point is 00:45:14 it references something that you kind of read about a little bit earlier and yeah I guess it just you know it just it ends up going somewhere where you're like this is still really cool but we've done it outside of that art music direction right S-links style style aesthetics yes like actual best in a video game okay okay I don't know like I hate hyperbole but there's nothing we also use it times and I don't give a fuck right now there's nothing that holds a goddamn candle to the menus presentation and music and sound and and just feel of Persona 5 I don't know the universe the universe hero uh-huh no no Sango fighter
Starting point is 00:46:07 Sango generation hey man they're coming close so they're coming close but I'll tell you what like the sounds you make and it's not again it's not it's like not I know your sounds as you experience these new menus right and as it does all the things all the things we like what do we like we like when we hear the light motif we like when we hear the music and it's a cool theme and it's a cool song and then something happens and it gets slightly remixed then something happens and it gets slightly remixed again and then when things pull up to their final confrontation what do we get we get the lyrics yeah and you're like you're just
Starting point is 00:46:47 going in your bobbin with the shogi mega row like tunes the entire time I mean it goes to like oh like even when we did Catherine it was like I think the first thing he says like man what a great main menu like it doesn't come up that much when you're actually playing the game but like in the main menu of Catherine and just just going around the options or whatever like that part you see that this is their strength exactly team no absolutely and so whenever they decide to though I guess the only my only thing here is that like like they do they do excellent work with the late motif in this game right like they really have
Starting point is 00:47:23 some some some cool like callbacks to the same songs and things like that but like part of what made for example p4's like finale incredible was the ultimate version of that the ultimate callback being like something that you heard earlier on the game so anyway I'll get into the details once Pat gets back you know but shade a bit more yeah but holy fuck man what a good video game also okay well yeah finish you just you can't I'm never like they're never gonna make these games in a way that unless you're skipping text and just blasting through it not reading and not really you know enjoying yourself or at the very least
Starting point is 00:48:06 like ignoring content on purpose yeah you're not getting out of here in under 110 hours right right you know if you do the base amount but enough to like it's not like a speedrun but it's like you have to look at least the main thing of the main bit of storyline you're saying like it has to be at least a hundred at least 110 because my way of playing through the last two games was by I do I talked to everybody and I want to follow the Zosterdialog exactly right and so like there's and sometimes there's little characters throughout town that have ongoing storylines you know like there's a cool guy in this game that
Starting point is 00:48:43 like he only works at night outside this club and it's like this the only black guy in the video in the entire video game and he works outside a club and you go talk to him and he's trying to learn Japanese and excuse me and the entire time he's kind of like but come inside you know and then like random like drunken salary men would be like yeah what the fuck are you doing you know you're Japanese socks you're making fun of us you know whatever and then like he gets better and better at it and as the game goes yeah it's just a random NPC that you can ignore you know and so the game has bunches of little things like
Starting point is 00:49:20 that where like this is a person standing in this spot at this time and you can always go find out what they're up to and as the seasons change their little plot progresses yeah you know so I in this game because there was like so much of that I realized this is overwhelming I I will never be able to do it like I did in the last game right so I just went for the couple that I liked you know hung around a few random people and then did the main things by exhausting to activities everyone the once-over who's gonna interest me you're gonna just you cool yeah yeah yeah all right you and me yeah I'm gonna check you until the rest
Starting point is 00:49:55 of the game exactly not so much yeah you go back to you go down the street and there's these two like pickup artists like like losers that are just talking about how to get girls okay and they're super lame and I'm just like you have you just I have nothing interesting to get from you you know so I you check in every once in a while and then like the like you know you just get like one of those things were towards the end like the master's been the master's been teaching the student how to pick up girls okay you know and he's like you gotta you gotta do this you gotta use these words and whatnot and then at the
Starting point is 00:50:23 end it's like I've never actually picked up a girl even though I'm the master and the student is like really cuz I've been using your techniques and getting results and he's like I'm sorry I'm a fraud you know like wow you got like little weird things like that but like you know like one day I hope to see a woman what I just walk down alleys they just they're not out yeah like they're walking the streets you're just not there you know and yeah and so you get you get that type of stuff going on you know if you want to get into those details and these are all of course like again NPC plot like completely
Starting point is 00:51:01 ridiculously optional super missable you know and there's tons of them so that that's not that much of a spoiler don't worry about that so really quick I wanted to ask before I forget this what is now that this is done what is the next like alright put time into this now game so much came out it has to be on a matter yeah for me to it has to be because I asked on Twitter a few days ago I was like hey I really want to play like an open-world thing kind of but I want a huge time sink and I was like should I play infamous second son or infamous first light which is much like Assassin's Creed freedom cry yeah it is
Starting point is 00:51:41 a small chunk of that game with the girl with the cool girl yeah that's like lights being shit and I played that for like an hour was like oh shit I actually really like this and people are saying it's like six seven hours like oh man I want to get on that so like once I've done that because that's small then I want to yeah jump into near on a matter finally yeah I might take a weekend and just like rush to the end of FF 15 because I oh you never know I didn't finish it I stopped and I stopped right and dead and the cold in the middle because I was doing a lot I'll do I was doing all the side missions yeah right
Starting point is 00:52:14 and I was doing them because I was like I was I was having fun doing the little hunts but like it got to a point where I was like other things came out and I got distracted Breath of the Wild I think is what broke me off of FF 15 and I just never went back in so just to get it off my plate I might just sit down one weekend and blast blast through that blah blast through that but the the yeah the next thing on the plate is how it's got to be near and I'm already like because it's save platinum yes it did and I'm already going through the the LP to walk to catch up on the old game right now so yeah I guess that's me and we'll
Starting point is 00:52:54 hear more about persona in the weeks to come um and months to come yeah and you know if I haven't already said it till I'm blue in the face it's all about Makoto it's all about Makoto that's the choice that's who I went with I did not cheat I did not do any any sort of infidelity I kept my I kept my my dirty Japanese penis to myself and my favorite confidant line was Becky I think Becky's confidant line is the absolute best in the entire franchise I like how confidant is the word to use for when you're like this these group of like mischievous thieves like the the correct turn like not friend not like what it's clear
Starting point is 00:53:47 confidant stylish sort of noirish word huge props to this game for the way there's a character Futaba she I'd give her like second easy because there's a character that's like the tech girl that kind of everyone cosplays your stats exactly and whatnot and in game she's an actual Hikokimori she's a shut-in that doesn't leave her room which is a real thing in Japan right it's the realest thing and you have a character that is going through that for amazingly real and good reasons and they work it won't okay no not amazingly good and real reasons amazingly well integrated into the plot reasons okay okay and
Starting point is 00:54:38 like it's not just for dumb purposes where like when you first hear about that you go are they just inserting that because they want to want to put this hyper character in there and it's like no no no no they did a fantastic job with her and her personality and not just there to be there yeah and so her confidant line her S-links as you would are teaching her to leave at the house and be social and it by bit yeah and it's a super cool real feeling like like yeah this is something people go through man you know and it addresses it in a really good way and I absolutely think that they did a fantastic job with that
Starting point is 00:55:13 character so fun stuff there and yeah I don't know I mean whatever I'm sure there'll be other questions for favorites and things like that later on there you go we'll get to it all right with that what do you have for me well we're gonna get into the news but before we do we should take a word from our sponsor okay so you can barely say the word anymore just for this week this week is brought to you by Yogi Shinokawa cross I was waiting you can pimp that out Matt's got his awesome yeah yeah Matt's got his awesome Yogi designed a Godzilla mecha Godzilla Eva unit and it really looks
Starting point is 00:56:03 like an Eva unit but it more so looks like Jay Hootie like the head is like Rex and Ray mix take a look at it what's it called online to Google it to take a nerve and ERV it's just nerve a special G weapon cross a book like it's got this crazy long-ass name okay but nerve Yogi Shinkawa would be enough it's fucking NERV it's a really good design and you know I was swearing earlier before we started the podcast because it was like really they also showed off a black and silver variant yeah that looks like it's from Desperado like fuck you I gotta know I mean or look I I've said it you know a couple times but like my
Starting point is 00:56:46 favorite mecha designs of all are orbital frames and like these this looks like one of those so I'll say a bold statement this is now my favorite mecha design of anything at all like girl I know okay just just this that I really wish this would appear in something because Yogi Shinkawa's still just the hey everyone jerk off to Eva and Godzilla marketing campaign yeah has no basis in reality you know why though like the zone of the enders mechas like like the Yogi Shinkawa mechas they have sex appeal I would like to put my penis you know on this that's the thing like a lot of mech designs are really cool and
Starting point is 00:57:32 a lot of them are like visceral elegant even like sexually some of them look like they would cause a problem yeah you know these not so the big O might be a bad one to take to bed perhaps you don't want to work with I would enjoy an evening with the iron giant you know you know exactly now now the the Shazara has a reza's odd right talented by Alan Shaza reza's are from Escaflon a is a very close elegant mech design it's a guy malef and you remember the little cape it has with the sword and you know very very smooth it'll take you to dinner knowing you're in the needs but right since there's a dream daddy's and
Starting point is 00:58:16 then there's gonna be a cat dating Sam fucking talk to me dating sim called perfect date yeah okay whatever I'm just there needs to be a mecha dating game what would it be called I don't have I'm not fast enough damn it I'm not fell funny enough I don't have it on me I'm sorry but yes yes please yes from different franchise like it's a super robot wars but it's a fucking dating and then they're like the AI is the is the what you're talking to right so in the same way that you you interact like it's like talking to serious or Ada or yeah exactly right you're you're you're dating the cockpit
Starting point is 00:58:58 I have some American shit in there it's like have people from robot jocks I how many sentient cockpits are there and if there aren't you just have to I guess do it night rider would technically damn it that's a real that's real you can do that all of the virtual on you know all the wheelchair on troopers and whatnot you can get those in there yeah yeah I don't know I don't know or you don't they don't even have to be the sentient cockpits it could just be people in the machines but you have to date them while whilst we're both piloting like you have to sit down at a small tiny table so you have like like like basically
Starting point is 00:59:44 doing so you could do it both ways well are we are we doing a paired up like Pacific Rim thing where you test double day it's your compatibility in the drip yeah holy and then they can come in with you god damn it damn it I don't know there is there's a lot here there's a lot here that's good but a goddamn mech a dating sim is so in my wheelhouse somebody please yeah yeah yeah draft up some pictures oh man and dude like people are right names are popping people are all over the names macromansor fucking it really that's the best one oh I'm gonna I like
Starting point is 01:00:31 Macromansor a lot and I'm gonna that's what I'm holding on to right now in my heart that's it yeah yeah okay all right good work good work Macromansor 3.1 you are not dating me I it hurts me sometimes that I don't just have a pocket game studio to just be at your beck and call just be like go yeah here it is go fuck that's that's something yeah that's something to keep and in the mental museum when it needs to be unlocked unlock those doors and throw that fresh idea on just slap it down onto a table like I was time you're at a big high-powered business meeting well because like it was 4 a.m. last
Starting point is 01:01:20 night and I just I just got shot up in bed with a thought yeah I was just lying there and I had to tweet it out because it was upsetting to me oh was your rollerblader game yeah yeah well the phrasing I said you won did you I did I don't there's a roller derby game called rock and roll no no no I know but that's not it that's like then someone gave you a neon infused first person dodge ball roller derby game because like there's robot there's a robot stuff and it's all like there's it's not what I'm not what I'm looking for I might my tweet was okay seriously how come there's no super arcade style hyper neon
Starting point is 01:01:56 roller derby games with in-depth customization and turbo meter in existence what the fuck but you literally gave someone an impossible task to come up with but is it yes take roller derby and make it like NBA Jam style give it Tron aesthetics and a turbo meter also NBA Jam style some wind jammer is kind of fun vibes and speed right and allow me to make my own character and team and and puns on fun roller derby names dunk lords is pretty close there dunk lords is exactly what it is basketball it's basketball and there's no customization yeah there is there is oh cool okay well I'm not sure
Starting point is 01:02:33 much visually but there is like setting gear and stats and and swapping out things okay because not to the customization that I know you want yeah because here like what's some of what's some of the major fun of roller derby all those crazy names right yeah so coming up with your derby name is should be a part of that yeah I'm designing a logo like you have the for honor a logo creator but you would you would have to combine the game that I found rock and roller derby and that other neon infused Tron one you have to combine you have to make your own thing you'd have to make your own thing yeah
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Starting point is 01:10:22 okay I can get you seven oppie I'll survive well I want one big water for big shells why don't you get me one that's fine I knocked over his toy you didn't have far to fall all right let's let's get into the news and da news oh no is this hot off the presses what oh who what oh Rick Flair's in the hospital ice right before we started I saw Sasha Banks because it followed her on Twitter as you like yeah all my hearts and prayers grow out to Rick Flair and I couldn't see what what was trending or what the deal was but always pretty all though hopefully recovers you know how old he is late 60s
Starting point is 01:11:16 68 there you go all right Rick do what you always do survive I'd like to think that when he's in you surviving when he's in the hospital and he gets out from like the bed he does the Rick Flair flop or he just down on the floor oh my god he's like don't don't worry I just that was just selling I'm just selling the surgery yeah all right let's do it nature boy in the news what's going on okay so I guess first things first yeah what is the first Hideki Kamiya yes to say Yoko san saved platinum would not be an exaggeration and when he says Yoko san he means Yoko Taro a director he means Yoko Ono of the Beatles fame of
Starting point is 01:12:08 course the the woman who brought the Beatles together they're finally yeah and solidify the relationship forever yes but you know it's pretty crazy that that Kamiya said this like there's other like head guys had had guys at the head of platinum that would probably say a line like this I'm surprised this Kamiya just like straight up like yeah you saved her bacon because about this project well like he doesn't say in so many words but everyone's like oh you mean because Microsoft like you got not paid from Microsoft after putting years of work into scalebound exactly so people are saying that he doesn't talk
Starting point is 01:12:44 about that yeah I think we can just simply infer that they would probably have been okay if not for the major loss of scalebound and that would have hurt them in such a way because unlike you know the tiny games that they've worked on over the years for things scalebound was a massive project for the two for the studio and yeah you can't take the hit on that and not be like oh it's fine I'm gonna shrug it off you know I mean I think at the time Kamiya said something along the lines of working will continue to be guns for hire right like you see he just kind of said like yeah we'll do what we do and that's that
Starting point is 01:13:19 I remember something like that quote and it's like stuff like Bayonetta 2 and wonderful 101 that's like those are just things that Nintendo would be like I don't care just doesn't matter if it really sells we'll just pay you for it does you will work with you in the future they're working on something for this switch but like this is the first time as far as we know publicly like platinum put work and time into something and then it never got finished so like they don't see that money what do do Microsoft any have any large productions on the horizon that are not just like timed exclusive things
Starting point is 01:13:57 no I think I'm to mind I mean even anthem was like Gears Gears Wars and there's nothing was like on the stage but it's just it was just like revealed there first it isn't actually see if these from rare hmm that's not how yet there's that but I wouldn't even categorize that as a huge massive the expensive game of okay well there you go then I guess so I mean you know you have to wonder like how yeah I'm definitely curious as to how scalebound would have performed but one thing's for sure is that the cancellation probably did some massive hurt it hurt platinum more than did Microsoft so the translation of
Starting point is 01:14:40 communities tweets specifically for your context everybody is near success has to this point given platinum a new fan base a growing staff a brilliant success story an increase in qualified job applicants and a great benefit normally I can't help but do everything by myself it's a pitiful story but to say that Yoko-san saved platinum would not be an exaggeration I cannot thank him enough near-automata saving platinum games I get what he means it's more like there's more eyes on us because traditionally a lot of our projects go under marketed like only people that or like people still think that Konami made metal gear
Starting point is 01:15:19 rising or something like that it's but this is like clearly us and you know it has our fingerprints all over it like I think it's just clearly a project because aside from Bayonetta and even then it's like being at a one even didn't sell all that well across two platforms at the time but people know Bayonetta but it's like it's on the Wii U the second one so it's locked to a certain amount of fan base but this is on all three major platforms is huge success is clearly you know yes more of their thing that was also obviously made by Namco and the and and so the thing is is that like I think it's Namco Bandai that's near
Starting point is 01:16:00 right public published it yeah not sure we can find that out really quickly I will I will I think we can be more precise and say to be saved platinum I was also thinking that let's not mince words let's just assume that what's his face from year one old man year old man year if he was on the fucking cover of automata I'm sorry let's just square square square let's just take it let's just take it straight to the source and go that robot booty saved platinum a strong character design and a giant folder called to be zip I mean like also don't mince words at the game has incredible voice acting and story and
Starting point is 01:16:45 shit and it's like a very deep story or whatever but so you know what you know why why why fucking arms sold a bunch there you go you know you know what they say platinum never loses its thick the luster of the thickness oh man you know the platinum logo should be a shiny ass just take the star just take the star and be bouncing off that thing man flip and quarter like I want to see fucking wonderful 100 what all of them are wearing thongs mm-hmm what a wonderful 102 rather whatever it may be but yeah that's that's what it is though and I think that like unfortunately you know the reality it's not that's it's
Starting point is 01:17:36 unfortunate but it's something we've always known is that platinum's fantastic unique in-house games are limited appeal to broad audiences you know like we know and love the wonderful 101 but that's super limited to a bunch of people and like and it didn't you know skill bound was the thing that seemed to be like all we're trying to get into those bigger epic Western games that people it's like get really into and that's kind of what scale down though I still feel like we barely saw anything of it or what you actually did yeah you just saw a couple fights yeah like what did you do when you're not fighting was it just fighting
Starting point is 01:18:12 I don't know like some people are like oh it's a monster hunter game and I'm like I is it I they never really so the quality is usually a niche thing and yeah near-automatize like spotlight on from the game industry is one that's like this is one of the first times where it's like been on center stage yeah you know and that's crazy and awesome but here's what's even more impressive that was center stage in a climate surrounded by Zelda Breath of the Wild horizon and fucking persona 5 like Yakuza horizon Zelda persona yeah then this was smack dab in the middle of it was in the same area in March and it manages to hell
Starting point is 01:18:55 don't hold its own and stand out above that yeah and be a success in a time when people really want to spend their money on other things I'm sold like what like 1.2 million they did the yeah they did it was great you know very successful like it's really cool that it was able to do that so yeah fuck yeah man this is such a weird like unexpected Liam supporting universe that we live in yeah no you know I mean if you had if you told me it was gonna you know be a like a I think I don't know the budget of the game but like obviously a big success before it came out I'm like oh it's a platinum game I'm gonna play it
Starting point is 01:19:36 eventually I'm gonna like it I love the demo when I played and we're all like yeah no that's gonna be great but wasn't expecting it to actually do well especially since like you know the first one was just such a weird thing yeah I didn't even think would ever why would this come back with this come back yeah yeah exactly oh 2017 man we're not done yet no no pretty all right year for gaming the other it's been okay we got some rumors it's no 2011 well nothing I always try to pick a year there was like okay but last time you tried that the person who yeah yeah had a fucking list yeah yeah there's always something I
Starting point is 01:20:22 forgot who it was but one of it might have been a stop skeletons but yeah someone had just like a what were you talking about there was but I just locked myself into the bathroom for like an hour I cried about how wrong I was so other stories going on this week include some some some little some whispers whispers whispers of an on the wind whispers of an okami port I saw that you know so guess what this is a capcom rumor so it is 100 true because I can't think of the last capcom rumor that wasn't true specifically okami HD heading for Christmas release on ps4 xbox one if only there was a call so they had a touch screen that yeah yeah this this is ridiculous if this doesn't come out on the switch
Starting point is 01:21:18 at all like I'm fine with it not but for people that it is fucking made for the system I believe it and because yeah why wouldn't you know once you start that one port and you have this art game and why not on pc either it doesn't mention pc at all and people love buying okami you saw that street ultra street fighter 2 was a massive success for capcom they were like oh shit we're gonna put in more projects like this this like surprisingly so what that price right anything um yes surprising it was that price range it didn't deserve to sell a lot of that price range but regardless yeah so uh uh you know I I think okami is a cool game that people should continue to uh port because now I'm ready to play through it again because I was not down to
Starting point is 01:22:07 play the Wii or the ps3 version I was just not I was like no but it's now it's been enough time or I'm like let me let me try to do it I still think that 90 hours is gonna is gonna it's gonna hurt me um I'm I'm still I'm with you but it's not just that but it's also that if I'm gonna go back to okami I'm gonna go back to okami dead first because I bought a copy of that and I still haven't cracked it open because okami then exists I I always want to buy it and no one's got much to say about it what it's not as good yeah that's that's all I believe that you know sure but it's a different game the chibi terasu is the best yeah it's a different okami game that exists and uh you know there's not a lot of opinions out there on it so it's like beautiful joe on the ds I never
Starting point is 01:22:52 actually played it um yeah so it's even called double trouble it's really called double trouble uh beautiful joe on the ds yeah I think it's no it would have to be red hot rumble no if it was on the ds it would have to be have a ds subtitle like no I think I'm pretty sure it was called double trouble it was called double something but there was also red hot rumble the fighting for the fight game which we struck yeah that was my first moment I was ever cross at Liam where he was like you really need to do double red hot rumble for for your switcher channel and then you were I was like okay yeah I never actually played it and I think I popped it in with you and we played like this is functionally impossible to make a good video out of yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:23:38 yeah we uh we gave up on that real it was very mad and I was like you wasted my time um I bought that game or nothing yeah but there's other games we played a bunch of off stream that never ended up on the fucking channel yeah but that seemed like I was like yeah I feel like I feel like we put hours into Billy Hatcher without actually playing we played like 30 minutes at Billy Hatcher we played so much Billy Hatcher remember we tried spawn on the dreamcast the split screen that was not happening but anyway I hope this is true I just hope it gets announced for everything eventually pc and switch because it's a shame for it not to yeah and it's like those bail ports it's kind of like look guys if you haven't played it get on that shit yeah I thought there's any shortage of
Starting point is 01:24:19 shit to play but you know um so that's what's going on there there's 100 percent sure this remember okay it's by Capcom it's it's leaked and it's confirmed now that we have we have uh other 100 didn't they announce Marvel characters they just set it in a press release and like there's no videos no nothing Marvel versus Copham infinite yeah like they announced two characters in a press you're just jumping into some random a random story right now like random it's Capcom okay it's rumors uh I don't have that on the docket but I saw something if you've got something you know so you see something say something I if I see something I'll say something is that based on anything or I swear I thought I saw a new story like three days ago that said oh Capcom also just
Starting point is 01:25:08 basically confirmed these characters in Marvel versus Capcom but they have no videos no like it was just kind of mentioned off-handedly in a press release I don't know let me know if people say if I'm crazy or not uh ghostwriter yes okay oh because they have those shitty shittily drawn comic book covers okay so that's why well firebrand showed up on one of those covers too so did you see that hangar versus spider-man cover that Thomas retweeted the worst no his his tweet says like hey I bet you I bet I can make you laugh and your friends like yeah try me and then he just posed a picture of this comic book cover it's horrendous art of hangar in mid like against spider-man it's just so awkward and terribly drawn like it's well so I will say this yeah ghost ghostwriter ghostwriter confirmed
Starting point is 01:26:01 for Marvel versus Capcom infinite if it's fucking Dan catch ghostwriter and not Robbie Ray's ghost writer like not Matt Matt Matt it's whatever fucking ghostwriter was in Marvel 3 just fucking all you have to do is update his costume it's the same this is you know what I mean like it's like the carry he was already there we've done this so um far be it from them to put some effort in uh you know what though I will say this the fact that like okay so this this isn't under the radar announcement right yes but what would you what would you rather this or a big crazy reveal trailer that builds it up like trailer five and then ghostwriter fair enough right totally right they had no winning move here yeah you're right okay okay um maybe not have ghostwriter that's not
Starting point is 01:26:49 that's not what we're discussing that's not on the table the only winning move is not to play fair enough uh let's talk about loot boxes in shadow of war with can we talk did you talk about she lob last week what would you want to say about she lob do you know what I'm talking about she lob giant spider uh the giant spider is in this game oh you don't know this is amazing no I don't know she lob is now a super sexy woman with sexy lady parts seriously shadow of war oh the fucking spider that is in lord of the rings that they fight and run from you now like there's the spider is in the game but now she has an ultra sexy lady for jim sterling did a video about this so we could go or so so there is the spider form but like yeah she gets some big yabos
Starting point is 01:27:44 she gets big vaginas and asses it's amazing that like it's already the most unoriginal thing I've ever heard the dust that is tolkien skeleton is is is rolling around in little puffs of wind inside his coffin because it's not like his body can can spin dude look I'll find you a picture the stalk killed it it's over oh that oh you're going on that thing too yeah yeah yeah the stalk killed it all right it's way lazier and if you want to go with your your fucking uh monster musume whatever rack now rack nara whatever characters and you can take one of those two but at the end of the day why are we taking just giant monsters and turning them into sexy humans now what are we doing because it's like hey bro you're gonna get shadow of war
Starting point is 01:28:37 rack near the door no no but there's the fucking broad in there all right okay but the micro loot boxes well I mean yeah because here's the thing shout outs to uh hero gamer for their subtitle here she love look at her oh it's just it's just a girl it's just a girl no it's just well it's the picture it's a picture of her it's a picture of a human girl then she starts making out with your character it's gonna kiss her why would a giant spider decide to turn into a human being why didn't she turn into an orc or an urakai or a hobbit or an elf or any of the other races of middle earth I think that they're what they're like a human okay woolly we're in the uh concept phase at uh Warner Brothers whatever uh no a monolith or whoever makes it so they're like
Starting point is 01:29:30 oh so what should we have well you know you want to draw in the fucking Kellogg's boo barrier whoever you play in this game uh Italian and to lure her lure him into the lair of course she's gonna turn a sexy lady no love sexy ladies and and spiders have a kind of it's like a witch type thing and they lure you in but then it's like once she's about to strike turn a new gross spider so that's like I'm sure that's what they're thinking so then when am I getting my giant flaming ballrog what am I getting big naked man ballrog with chains and fire with a big flaming loincloth as he's swinging it around I like that and you're like I wouldn't mind you shall pass can you pass you want to pass I love the ballrog I love flaming penises come on now oh if you
Starting point is 01:30:23 want to see that play the final boss of Dante's Inferno it was really awkward when Rocky was watching oh boy anyway I heard about say 10 yeah uh but uh yeah that that's part of all the shadow of war news what now come you fools come you fools what new dickery is this oh no in the depths of so Jared said you can buy loot chest Jared from the Warner Brothers site okay so here's what's going on there's loot chest and shadow of war right and it's all those things you get your armor and your items and your XP boosts and whatever but also there's literally orcs inside of them that pop out that you gain in your army oh I thought they pop out of the treasure chest and they steal your loot no back in no no no they you gain or so the you know the whole mechanic of the
Starting point is 01:31:24 thing you fight guys and you can choose to enslave them and stuff and the nemesis system I believe it's called yes that's what it's called you get nemesis the nemesis system is all is now in loot boxes not exclusively but it's just like you're putting mechanics in the loot boxes what are you doing so so what are you doing that for shadow of war door had the initial trailer 60 minutes long and this wasn't like on camera whatever I was laughing the entire trailer because it was so over the top and hilarious and if this was just called shadow of war and it was some new IP I've been fine with it but because it's based on the Lord of the Rings and it had this in the first shadow of Mordor or more whatever the first one I'm like it's over the top it's fine but this one's
Starting point is 01:32:11 so over the top and so action movie I was just laughing in the trailer and I was like all right let's see if it's just me will he watch this yeah I had you sit down and you're just your face was completely neutral at the start then I slowly start seeing you lose it and you're like I didn't know what you wanted me yeah I didn't know what you wanted me because I didn't give you much context but it just doesn't stop video gaming as hard as possible and after like when he drops down and he fucking kills eight dudes and then there's a boss and then that's a boss and then that be jump over him and fight the boss boss right and then the boss boss fears you and runs away and then your mount jumps over a pillar of fire and then you're just flying on a fucking dragon
Starting point is 01:32:56 burning down a thing and then they're like they the boss's boss has to answer so now when a dragon sized orc shows up or whatever that giant mother thing is and you're like what are we doing I would love so someone to do some spicy spicy would they take footage of that trailer and they find if if it exists or at least quotes from the man find an interview with with tolkien where he's like it was a story about love it was showing that the smallest person has the most power and cut to the footage of the game and like so and then last time we tried to talk about this and like because it's a weird it's hard to explain the funny here because we tried to talk about it last time and I remember some people were like why are you guys like shitting on this game that stuff looks cool
Starting point is 01:33:42 what's the problem and it's like it's just it's the over the topness is so intensely packed together in this trailer specifically you don't get a chance to breathe because he jumped like the game they want you to see this game as an exciting moment to moment action adventure and and the books are like primarily all about the hobbits like it's all about the hobbits and their journey and photos and the movies did what they had to do which is to get people more on board and like the the mainstream audience it's like have more stuff with aragorn have more fighting and have and this is now like 7 000 other movies came and went like even the hobbit like the last two hobbit movies were just all mindless like not great action I always stretch fill the first
Starting point is 01:34:28 hobbit msg I liked but the other two I did not and this is just that to the upteenth degree and now it's like hey guess what get your loot box get your xp boosters get your or crates if you want to get some llamas bread get llamas bread boosters boost that llamas bread you need that to give you that like plus three uh like uh armor you get that llamas bread son get the ale get the get the ale boost like it's just a little over the top now and more than a little and and I mean like so like just gameplay wise those systems on top of systems on top of systems it's the type of shit we made fun of in that cross-tech and fighter pedia like it just it's just going so hard and so heavy you know and and like I again like I feel like part of it you had to be there to just see
Starting point is 01:35:15 the moment-to-moment video gaming trying to one itself up before the last event finished let's say we just changed the name of this game like keep all the gameplay mechanics but just to put this in the context why don't we just call this game catcher and the ride like hold in sacrifice yeah you know that's the same shadow of coffield coffield you know like what it comes from a like a fairly humble like literary source that does have action doesn't have fantasy elements but they've put so much onto it and so now with these orc boxes right you can buy you can buy them with in-game currency but of course you can buy them with real currency as well and so the whole thing is supposed to be like because it's it's it's like it's more excuse me it's more than cosmetic
Starting point is 01:36:10 but you can earn it by just playing and grinding because that's what that's what big mainstream video games are supposed to be right and and you know so that's there that's the the whole thing with it but I just think like even even if you can get all this stuff by just playing the game it feels like why are you why are you putting your major appeal of your system which is the nemesis system like why are you breaking that into well you know why because you make money on it but it feels like it feels like a shallow business it's not why are you doing this it's like we know why it's just it feels like a poor move actually the the example I was thinking of was actually sort of done already I already talked about it once it was Dante's Inferno let's take this story
Starting point is 01:36:50 that has like zero action it has just literally characters walking and talking and waxing poetic about life and thinking about sacrifice and whatever and now let's make it over the top action game like and he's a fucking Templar like stitching across to his chest you love that part that's what it is yeah yeah yeah like like guess what the game is still probably really fun to play and but you know all this micro transaction stuff I've never been a huge fan but like whatever that's to be expected but it's just because to me they they just it's so far beyond like so over the top and it's just it's hilarious I mean based on the source material you couldn't get any further so much funnier and here's the only way to save it yeah you double down part three you
Starting point is 01:37:42 just saints row it and you just completely disconnect from the word lord of the rings okay so this this one like we already kind of say it like Kellogg's blueberry that Talion uses the Witch King whatever spirits attach them it's it's a stand like fuck it it's a stand right okay it's because he shoots it out it hovers around in sure powers them up whatever so I think for the third game other characters awaken their witch king spirit and everyone starts having whatever I'd like someone needs to like if if so the Sauron is in this game or if he's not I don't know I forget what what's happening but if so on either needs to be a stand user or be a stand okay you know so the the ringwraiths just possess different people and start didn't people start
Starting point is 01:38:36 stand battles his soul is fused with the ringwraith spirit why I don't know why whatever like that's how you do you're you're right if the third game goes even crazier I'll be like okay no now you went so far beyond everything else mortal crusaders um yeah this just seems like a uh a shallow poor decision that's going to result in tons of money so all we can do is go poo poo on you while you count your big dollars there's going to be a hilarious video we'll make of it at the end of the day yeah you know yeah they're gonna make handover fist money on that I don't I don't know for sure like I kind of thought Deus Ex mankind divided was gonna like just because the first one sold all right I mean the first reboot and then this that failed but there's a there's you know
Starting point is 01:39:27 what like like it's not always assured well it just looks like certain franchises right when they come back after with a sequel you get marketing you get Paul to come in and comb over it and like try new game marketing right they're like this is this is what works here this type of DLC this type of plan whatnot and it feels like this is one that's had like four or five passes shadow or yeah it feels like you know what I mean like you whatever like they they get to kind of run wild and like they're like oh shit they're letting us do that yeah what else can we do you know like everything let's put in the crazy ideas that go too far expecting to get shut down and then they green light all of it and you go oh fuck yeah they like lured in with the with the
Starting point is 01:40:11 promise of you can just go crazy on it at the end of the day here here's another little reason why I'm sad I'm like I'm glad that the first shadow of war more sold well and then monolith had a big success because they were made they were doing like gain like little downloadable things like Lord of the Rings conquest if anyone remembers that Batman Joker Gotham cartoony shooter remember that thing yeah uh Gotham's I forget the fucking name um um um um um Gotham uh no Gotham city bruisers you're throwing me off what was it called what was it called we fuck I tested it yeah yeah you did Gotham Gotham bad boys imposters Gotham city imposters thank you thank you you uh you're with your salt um and then this was a big success but like
Starting point is 01:41:03 I want them to make another condemned I want them to make another fear maybe I want them to do another no one lives forever I would love no one lives forever to come I don't know who owns that but that's the studio that made it did Warner Brothers get it I don't know I want them to make their own brand new IP that's not tied to a a fucking book or a movie or something yeah but that's a risk that's a financial risk it takes a lot of money and then when it doesn't work then they have to fire people or if they think it's not going to work early on then they scale bound it too real yeah yeah uh down to earth there so um speaking of uh ridiculous loot boxes um well it's not there anymore but for honors in the back in the news uh because season three had a
Starting point is 01:41:53 tournament that uh recently went down to promote the new characters and new stages and new stuff and of course the dedicated servers but unfortunately uh what happened so there's an early there's an early bug that was been that's been around for a while now and there was there's multiple actually because there's stuff that I remember like finding out and um and trying out in training mode and stuff where like you can do a lots of you can do ghost hits by unlocking and attacking at the right time okay there's things where you when you lock on in the game and then unlock moves behave differently okay right and like I remember there was a thing early on where like the um the uh uh the shugoki could swing uh one direction and then unlock and instantly
Starting point is 01:42:44 without an actual animation another swing would happen like a ghost swing right and so I was like what the fuck that's huge that's super strong you what do you you know what I mean like it's a hit that just comes out and it and you can't really block it or parry it or you can block it but you can't parry it rather and so like I remember the being like like that's crazy they're gonna get rid of that and it turns out they didn't unpatch they didn't patch this stuff out it kept it stayed in the game and it applies to every character and now it's like this whole thing called unlock tech right and so what unlock tech is okay I'm gonna keep it surface I'm not gonna go too in depth here because the point is that they had a tournament and the guy who won just abused it and it was he
Starting point is 01:43:25 three owed every match he was in uh I believe there and like what ends up happening is if you go watch their live stream this guy just wins by pretty much uh using this is it that guy that's in the thumbnail a guy with like aviators on yeah yeah so okay so he plays a bunch of matches and like the unlock tech happens to work especially well um when uh you're using uh when you're when you're basically doing you're unlocking and your attack becomes unpariable it makes certain attacks faster it stops the recoil right and so like the nobushi is a fast character already and while some characters get faster attacks she gets attacks with pretty much no recovery like you so you try and then you miss and you just try again um and he just abused it all the way to the top and it it really really
Starting point is 01:44:19 like makes it almost impossible to to deal with her uh in a metaphor from a meta point of view um and so the winning that when the guy won what's his quote well it's more just like the dev I saw quote up above there the story yeah so basically right there yeah like the guy was just like I didn't think it would be this easy palin said after his victory um and like when the debt when the foreran or dev had some of the trophy going like congrats you won good job uh he pretty much goes hey man fucking nice job you're probably gonna have to change your strategy next time around though it's yeah you're you're like I don't he's like I don't think that gameplay too and you might have to change your play style but honestly a fucking good job okay right so like they're just like all right we
Starting point is 01:45:05 get it you you you spam this all the way to the top and that's unfortunate because what do you think about if you do the for honor tutorials and if it has a section that says unlock tech yeah well that's fine well here's the state it's in as far as tournament play goes like people have been just using this as a thing to fight in tournaments and win with so it's like role canceling is there a contingent that's been like no it don't use that shit well it's I don't agree with it well it's I think it's more along the lines of wait this isn't patched yet okay well here's what it does right it okay and and so like when I read I read an in-depth thread on on on it and like people that use it in exactly how it improves certain characters and the thing is that it takes the
Starting point is 01:45:50 reason why a lot of a lot of people like tournament players are fine with it is because it takes characters that wouldn't be as good and makes them better by improving them drastically in these crazy ways but it's a super bug and just like role canceling it's like you know like people that are up there in the matter like this can make this character viable because it adds this particular thing and it's just like yeah but then it makes this already good character unbeatable that's the thing is that when it gets to like this makes this character unbeatable like there has to be a limit where you say well like maybe you shouldn't use that for that character or something would you say that that he has no no I think he has very little
Starting point is 01:46:30 honor questionable honor I think they should add a question mark to the end of the actual name of the game maybe for fun no yeah yeah yeah there should be a game called for fun I like that um yeah so that's that's a weird one but uh that's kind of it doesn't it's not a good look when you're brand new season with new content and like this is not yeah fixed yeah yeah it was a known issue and it just exactly it's it's not a good look for showing off all the changes and whatnot so okay godspeed godspeed whoever I don't know who you're talking to uh well I mean the main guy left so now it's just down to Ubisoft okay all right swerry is about to announce a new game finally he's gonna do it at his event coffee time with swerry 65 uh he's gonna come at PAX uh west
Starting point is 01:47:28 yeah I wish I could go um for the first time in three years what do you think it's gonna be um well it's it's gotta be something new I don't think his company owns the rights to anything else so it's guys I assume it's it's a brand new game because white owls is like uh all their other previous games were like uh with d3 uh no sorry um ignition or any publishers any chance it'll be d5 no because microsoft owns that okay and microsoft never let him make a sequel even though the game fucking sold a million copies I don't understand anyway because I d4 is like oh and then someone walks through a door that's the end of that game and you go like it's fucking sucks we'll never ever get a conclusion to that story fuck microsoft um yeah I well whatever it is it's just like if if swerry
Starting point is 01:48:20 is directing it like I'll fucking be there uh I would like it maybe maybe maybe it's maybe is microsoft's trying to sabotage japan they're doing a good job maybe it's just an elaborate ruse they angry at the years of shunning and japan did to their consoles microsoft strikes back right now that we get the chance to like invest in some of you guys we can then rip the walls around you yeah maybe um yeah I'm gonna look forward to this announcement whatever it is uh um I have no idea just hope it's like a fun story based thing that's all it's all I can use I'd be angry if it was like a card based micro transaction thing or you know that's the only way I do is ah football sim you know uh so not much to talk about with king of fighters destiny because you already did
Starting point is 01:49:10 but it is available on youtube it is I said it I was about to say before it's fucking free it's at the end of the day it's free you can watch it on steam for free and on youtube it's free real estate um so I maybe I shouldn't complain about it as much it's not much of a news story it's just a simple like hey guys sonic mania's intro is fucking great not much else to say besides appreciate and enjoy the intro to sonic mania it's really cool it's a fun little animation I like that the guy that did it was like just a regular sonic fan artist that did silly like three panel cards like think about like wario weegee and then mario like throws the fireball into his face sure sure like imagine that guy got to do the animation for mario odyssey yeah that's what this
Starting point is 01:49:55 is like kind of yeah it's it's it's a lot of fun um and it definitely captures the spirit of you know sonic knuckles and tails just like running through stages hanging out being goofy there's very little to get angry at you know what I mean it's just fun is there it's a lot of fun nice animation maybe you can get angry at a lot of sonic mania oh oh hmm perhaps per chance may haps could you be referring to the crime that is the fact that sonic mania doesn't have a platinum trophy now what do you mean how can a game not have a platinum trophy because sony decides which games get it and which games don't and it's not up to the people making the game but fuck that game woolly I have no interest in playing this awful game that doesn't have a platinum trophy I will
Starting point is 01:50:49 not support this game now look again I'm not saying you're a heroin addict but but if you start jones and win the needles not around you have a fucking problem if you're an achievement hunter if you're one of those folks that if you thoroughly enjoy doing that that's fine I'm glad you get that and I know one saying that those are bad and should go away no what we are saying though is that the absence of them should not mean anything no here here's the thing if someone right that they announce hey uh sonic mania doesn't have a platinum trophy because you know whatever for reasons if someone goes oh fuck that sucks anyway game still looks great but if someone goes fuck this game I will not be supporting it what a disappointment fuck you you actually don't like
Starting point is 01:51:44 playing video games hashtag where's my chivos where's my chivos like it's it's totally funny me disappointed with these really like achievements I long stopped giving a shit about achievements like back in the 360 well I think some of the biggest insight I got into it was talking with Liam about how he about how it was like this is not something I'm enjoying but I feel like I need to do it for completion's sake because yeah and it's it's it's you know it's extraneous value it's not it's it has nothing to do with what's the actual game or it has no bearing on the game but I know that it exists and I know that it's a number that can go up that I can complete so I feel the need to go through it I tried to get a thousand gamer points on Prince of Persia zero yeah like
Starting point is 01:52:32 pop 2008 yeah right because it's not that hard a and b like there were some decent things to do but like I think that was the last one was like okay well I don't care about this anymore if this is sonic mania was announced to have no achievements and if some guy goes oh fuck that sucks I might not even play I'm like maybe not if you're really into that that's like it doesn't have a platinum trophy you can still get achievements it just doesn't have the maximum amount or yeah doesn't have I don't know you can't get your big 1000 you can't get your big thing or whatever I'm like you don't you didn't actually care about sonic mania did you it's really and it really is like there's people that like choose the well I used to work with somebody who would choose what games to play
Starting point is 01:53:17 based on how quickly you could get their achievements and that was how he games that was how he went through the xbox 360 generation and it was horrible but that was his life and that's what he enjoyed and that's what he wanted to do and what can you say man sure dude get that number up there hope you're having fun with it you know that's what it is if you can take an honest look and really say like I'm enjoying this I'm having fun that's totally fine if you're feeling like I just I have to do it out of compulsion then that is not a good thing that sucks but it also when it when when you're like slinging insults at the game yes exactly that's where they're like I think there's a line that's being crossed there where you're like are you okay it
Starting point is 01:53:59 sounds like a depressing way to to play your video games it really does and I say this as a person who in the past has tried for some if I'd be like oh this is a game I'm enjoying and I see this list here yeah okay let me take a crack at it I'll I'll sure you can sagat around I was just thinking about Street Fighter 4 to get that little unlock that's a fun one right why not and anything else that you're like you're looking for you enjoy the game enough that you want to do all the different things in it and see what it's got to offer then by all means you know there's no nothing wrong with that at all it's just this particular type of person that is going to look at it and go this game is now worse or worthless or not worth playing not worth my time this incredible new fucking Sonic
Starting point is 01:54:42 game is not worth my time because it doesn't have it it's like you are fucking weird go away that's all um but the intro is really cool though yeah and the the some early reviews have been very good so far it comes out tomorrow I'm I'm actually gonna stream it on on Liam's stream tomorrow I think because he's really looking forward to it obviously res infinite you know what I'm not going to show that picture because I feel like you got to get there and feel that emotion when it happens res infinite is now available on pc it is and uh what can I say besides please please please not just go just please please please please all right let's move on well here's here's a fun thing um I'm gonna be uh yes I'm gonna be out of town um this week
Starting point is 01:55:36 I'm gonna be heading down to uh Santa Ana I believe Gadaifonia or Santa Clara whatever I'm gonna go to yeah I'm going to California um because I'm gonna play some dragon ball you're gonna play a big boy play as big dragon balls big dragon balls okay and that's gonna be fucking awesome but um but the real reason you're going to California is on that Friday night it looks like there's a res themed launch party and they're like a nightclub or something at a yeah at a venue they're gonna have djs playing remixes of res music and that just sounds like I can't wait to see the videos go viral of you naked on the dance floor just resin it up you're trying to go into fetus mode oh man try to evolve during the yeah yeah yeah like I'm looking at people scanning over them
Starting point is 01:56:33 did someone give woolly drugs and someone goes no I press my bomb button and I'm just like I'm just tapping everybody on the head oh my god it's really been drinking no uh give them a drop fear is the mind killer uh that'd be cool if they renamed the club or the venue or whatever was to that so um yeah please please please please please please please okay we've got what do we got what do we got what do we got um like fuck it I'm talking about the res nightclub again now I got something good okay I got something good and I think it's something you you'll appreciate it okay well should I stall for more time you don't have to stall for time okay I wasn't sure the hero's back Alan fucking Snyder returns fucking look at that americano
Starting point is 01:57:35 the big american shoto Alan Snyder of street fighter EX and fighting layer of fame's and fighting layer so yeah they announced this new character for street fighter fighting layer EX fighting thank you there you go uh and yeah guess what what anyone worth the shit is coming back no they announced it's going to be 10 characters guess how many original characters were in street fighter EX games 10 okay all the rest were street fighter characters so cracker jack and jack jack oh but the shooter player but there's also street fighter EX two characters there's air there's more than that because there's area there's doctrine dark I read on some site it said it said like one of the games had 10 characters okay well
Starting point is 01:58:23 area there there were the street fighter EX two had more and I mean again when you think when you take pull and perna volcano rosso the uh uh you know like I said um the the uh shadow geist right there's there's a lot going on I think it's like launch we want it Blair Dame and yes yes yes yes but anyway rising dragon fire bow fire bows Alan Snyder is awesome yes yeah there's no gameplay well there's a like a camera pan of him but you know there's no gameplay of him no but I like how he's he's wearing his big American colors Ken should have had that costume in the street for well they fucking with they missed out didn't they instead they put Ken in the uh king cobra outfit instead of giving us king cobra yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:59:12 you love you love that it's fine twipple break why does it sound like this because look at his hair he's an old anime character I thought he was supposed to be like Scottish or Irish or something but he's got that he's got that um um he's got that uh uh uh uh interstellar 555 slash yeah that look you know uh like oh just all that 80s anime hair and all that 80s anime look he's got uh what am I thinking of is it viper uh cobra cobra cobra right absolutely um 80s anime protagonist hair so of course he's gonna be all about his twipple break um yeah I'm not sure I know this is kind of weird but like I just saw a story that was on this website that you're on uh just to the the right if you scroll up a bit I want to know if
Starting point is 02:00:06 you had that on the docket or not um well you can tell the story and then I'll finish looking at Alan Snyder's jiggling butt yeah it's like the jiggling butt physics there it is that was that well what story do you want to talk about that is another calcom related story where um Apollo Justice is getting remastered for the 3ds ah Apollo coming back yeah right story stream yeah Apollo Justice ace attorney come to 3ds in November with upgraded like you know like more high fidelity visuals new music and even a new feature to dust for prints or something I like his hair a lot I always like Apollo Justice his hairstyle I think it's really cool uh and I like the like you know Apollo Justice is a little divisive among among fans but I remember really
Starting point is 02:00:49 really liking it um and uh dude gets an eyepatch man well yeah he gets an eyepatch in the one after that picture he looks really cool so I thought that was cool just out of nowhere just I think it's to offset the fact that the great ace the great ace detective 2 is coming out in Japan and it will never get localized um I think some some fans were like a little salty about that so calcoms like here throw a bone just to release this I you know I I I'll be like welcoming to the the Nero of us of a game series right a lot of people give some flak but there's always some something sometimes there's something interesting going on if it's like I am not phoenix I'm my own lawyer the the weird thing is this happened where when the Nero is revealed in this game
Starting point is 02:01:41 the Dante is still there and he's the coolest he's ever been when you're not controlling him but yeah when you're not controlling him then the Dante comes back and is lame because when they brought phoenix back as the playable character he was just regular old phoenix like slightly slightly more confident but the phoenix right and apologizes like the coolest ever welcome to solid snake syndrome yeah oh yeah the best character in the game is the one you're not playing as you never get to play as that character the one you're playing as can't do anything but ask questions when they brought back right in an mgs4 and you're not allowed to play as no and when you well when you do get to be writing your fun yes yes but but that's but in mainline but in mainline metal gear games
Starting point is 02:02:27 that's just like the cool guy is the computer that is a that a the ai npc helping you out and he tells you that you're garbage and you're the one going what yeah all right so I'll get that again it's easier than I don't even think I have apologizes anymore the cartridge I think I gave it to a friend never gave it back or something uh didn't say oh wait I should have checked what those new features were to uh um elaborate on the story I think it's a finger uh fingerprinting uh mechanic for extra clues or something wasn't really sure but uh yeah upgraded visuals and and and better audio I'm down I'm down with that too um updated 3d graphics fresh take on the series courtroom battles and investigations skip texts switch between English and Japanese uh forensic investigations
Starting point is 02:03:21 plays a vital part in analyzing utilizing the features crime scene search for fingerprints and also examine certain certain objects in full 360 degrees which was a feature they had in a later game but they didn't have for apologize okay so this is going back to the same case as you know but just making them a little harder yeah so yeah includes two versions uh yeah so there's there's some stuff there's some more of these stuff and switch between languages so if you want to go full weeb you can yell idiot and it'll take the command all right speed through fucking text dialogue is awesome of course of course because you know it saves in such a way that sometimes you have to go through oh yeah no and and god bless p5 for I mean p5 has the
Starting point is 02:04:06 the usual like speed through and then it just takes you to the next choice right and then uh yeah it's a it's a solid it doesn't skip it has to be it goes through it quickly um when it comes to that stuff I feel like uh the absolute best I've ever seen in a video game is 999 no yeah oh yeah that would right because it blasts through it makes you make the decision and then keeps speeding through it but the moment new text you've never read shows up it stops I could use this for bible black it's fucking great well uh hmm anyway uh if you've already read the text it blasts that's cool that's but it stops when you have something new you know when you've branched it just it just knows like all the the players seen yeah it's all part of your save file
Starting point is 02:04:55 you know and it's super fucking useful man um so that's good tech I like that and uh uh I I take it that that's just something that you know we need to get into our rpgs and not just in visual novels yeah not just in there because visual novels any game I would like it if there's even a yeah well well because when it's when it when you're into when you're a visual novel and you've got you know your whole game is text and you have all these quality of life any other game has like the little camera cutaways to show you when a door is opening that you wish you could skip you can skip the cutscenes but you can't skip like that long animation of a character running through a wall so you know to follow them like those things are sometimes not skippable walk and
Starting point is 02:05:36 talks yeah yeah walk and talks yeah so that's what it is it's more just like take this take this quality of live visual novel tech and put it into video games proper there you go uh one day video games will be good one day one day nintendo won't be hit with lawsuits oh yeah this is a weird one I don't know it's more just like every system a million companies come out of the woodwork and wait to see if these systems are successful then yell at nintendo saying you stole her idea but guess what though what this one actually kind of looks like it well there's a million for the weed but it's totally just yeah exactly so they and there's old enough footage of of nintendo's prototypes to to fucking back their shit up but um what this is is just a there's a lawsuit
Starting point is 02:06:25 because the switch design is uh close to something called the game vice wiki pad and it's an it's a tablet that adds to snap on controllers with a d-pad and stick on both sides four buttons on the right d-pad on the left and it's yeah it's just an android tablet um and so they're going they're they're trying to take him to court and stuff but pretty sure nintendo's got all its patents together i'm pretty sure it has all its like and it's literally showing us a picture from 2012 where like a wii game pad prototype i mean the wii unit itself is just so similar to the switch it's just like you can detach the controllers really yeah uh so you know it's i mean again it's it's i love how these lawsuits only come out when the thing is super successful what is it's just
Starting point is 02:07:15 funny because like yeah you're looking at it and you go yeah no that's the layout that's the shape that's the design yeah let's see what the judge has to say because the judge will be like what the fuck am i doing with my life why am i here yeah i mean at the end of the day it's like nerds well guess what though right controllers are almost a solved equation yeah yeah we're almost at a perfectly solved equation because it's like through trial and error everyone is like modern engineering we've all everyone has realized that your basic like sticking d-pad here four buttons four shoulders there you know uh whether like playstation so it puts the deep the the stick down other people want to stick up but like the pre that was just variance there exactly the the xbox playstation
Starting point is 02:08:02 and game game uh and a nintendo controllers the pro pad at least are all in such a close place that it's very clear this is what we want a controller to be from now on like the first for standing controlling things yeah um anyway so that's that's i look forward to not hearing about this ever again exactly let's take some letters shall we let's take some lators you have a letor that you want to send us uh you can do so at super best friendcast at gmail.com that's super best friendcast at gmail.com mech romancer thank you you want to tell us about mechs you want to fuck that should have started with that you should have got well too late slice my bit to go in front of it yeah please save me um oh it's gonna take too long for me to pull it up
Starting point is 02:08:56 there so i'll pull it up over here it's gonna take too long he says take take he doesn't have he doesn't have time for that all right we got one coming in from mark says dare super best of the super juniors oh that's a good one what fighting game character has the most consecutive tournament wins to your knowledge lore wise that's difficult isn't that just for you no i don't know man you wins the street fighter one tournament sure uh there's alpha doesn't count as a tournament because it's alpha two does alpha two i have no idea who wins that alpha two is no alpha two oh god yeah alpha two replaces alpha one yeah and alpha three is the wanderings yes so i don't know who wins alpha two i've never heard it uh only certain games will actually definitively say
Starting point is 02:09:51 some don't some do like tia matt tia matt taught us that ryu has won the street fighter one tournament the street fighter two tournament okay so he's got at least two under his belt uh he doesn't win three because what is alex win three because oro shows up in the first bracket and fucking bodies ryu and then four and then he gets forced into a training with this super strong guy i think i think chun li wins a tournament somewhere that that strikes somewhere yeah how many tournaments does lu kang win you know who wins the most lu kang probably how many has he won who lu kang he's won mortal combat one i'm fairly certain he wins mortal combat two and i'm almost almost positive does he kill shell con yes okay mortal combat three mortal combat four i'm not so sure
Starting point is 02:10:48 but then he doesn't he dies in deadly alliance so he might have potentially won the first four tournaments the first four mortal combat so he's got at least four of them okay he's got at least like two confirmed paul phoenix paul has won said to have not won some because he was distracted or he got fucked up but i'm but paul has won tech tournaments that the that the the machimas have not yeah so uh jinn wins his wins three because he gets to ogre yeah right so that much is clear yeah it's no isn't i think it's in three where paul thought he won but the like but the fight against ogre was considered the real tournament win and he was like and he walks away or whatever right right his glory was taken from so yeah so paul hasn't won more than three so my favorite is
Starting point is 02:11:40 that orchid wins ki one okay i love that like you expect jay go to win but no it's orchid uh kofs any victories has it ever said who's won kofs canonical victories i and that's weird because they're teams canonical victories don't usually happen because the last boss fight ends up being this world domination plan that they end up stopping and in the process of stopping the world domination the whole tournament gets fucking canceled or sent out a whack or the nest's cartel gets involved you know akira wins at least one virtual fighter because i remember their stories were like wolf was furious that akira beat him and went on to win the first tournament and then i think he has a victory over akira later i don't know if wolf wins the whole tournament
Starting point is 02:12:29 does jackie doesn't get any i i'm not sure canonically maybe jackie does well it's it's hard to say but i i definitely know that uh there there are canon wins in the kofs series but they're they're murky at best unfortunately murky uh so i'm gonna give it i'm out of i'm gonna give it to lu kang yeah that's the closest i could pulling it right out of our ass i'm gonna give it i'm gonna give give it to lu kang um i think four plus not not does he win nine ye do you control raiden or lu kang at the end of nine it's right it's right in yeah oh well he is well in the story mode oh my god here we go you do kill like the very when you go through part one part two part three yeah raiden is like you usually lu kang and you beat like you
Starting point is 02:13:23 beat shang sung then i believe you beat chow khan and then lu kang is like what the fuck how come it didn't fix itself the timeline rain's like oh shit i instructed you to do the wrong thing it's not he must win lu kang and then chow khan must win and like he had he at least has two back-to-back wins i can't tell you what soul bad guy has i was gonna i was gonna move guilty gear because justice and dizzy and fucking it makes no sense that man has been through the in the in the shadows the whole time and i don't know what to tell you does guilty gear to overture even count probably not but whatever uh raven's back he doesn't look as cool as he used to overture raven looked way too hard count xard is a is no but there's rev two not replace xard i don't know are they a new
Starting point is 02:14:07 tournament no story continues xard x red xard red wandering xard sign yeah xard rev and xard rev two are all continuing the story they're not there's no replacements happening okay um blay blue that's the next logical if you want to go central you want no what am i talking about calamity trigger to chrono fantasma to central fiction um and then the in between x blaze shit or whatever it's called stop or blazy blue blazy blue yeah i don't even know the answer is dong dong dong dong is undefeated tournament most wins how did sapo win the end of biofruits did did uh did fucking uh it was dark rift won by morphex or erin maverick erin maverick no demonica demonica yeah anyway uh so yeah well our answer is luke hang for now most people prove us wrong
Starting point is 02:15:07 there we go donk donk is luke hang more or less dear super glorious scrub lords not too long ago i had intended to hunt down a copy of death cargo for you oh thank god but i'm assuming and i was actually close i think you're a liar sir let's keep reading after hours of digging through the shadiest sites i managed to get a copy of the files but not get the game to actually run oh no i think you're lying but no i believe that the recent event of a late night barrel dive just to find the shitty violent fighting game i remembered a certain controversy where the devs threatened people from uh from test your might forums and a kotaku writer for shitting on the game and completely
Starting point is 02:15:57 complete with allegedly bogus threats and whatnot i remember seeing bits of this uh what are other similar perhaps what is the worst example of bullshit like that you did witness yourselves where the devs uh or anyone related to said controversially bad game went as far as attacking the community and so okay whatever with that question because you need to come in and explain what you mean by you got the files for death cargo because that sounds like some shit and i'm i don't know if it's some bullshit or some true shit i'll play it so bad but i need to know and you need to elaborate on death cargo i want to know truth shit yeah right then this may be an untruth you need to come in and tell us what the fuck is going on this may be a large collection of
Starting point is 02:16:41 many lies and we are not answering your question until you give us the truth that's what's happening you got that buddy all right cat unrelated elaborate because we're pretty sure death cargo isn't real you're asking yourself what is death what are these files i have guess what google death cargo and find out what death cargo is and you'll understand or why we need death cargo into youtube you'll probably get some some things done and done no that's your answer i appreciate that he tried though i'm i'm i'm clicking the doubt button on that one i've never i'm not i'm not i'm not going to my list of lies to accuse you you're not even going to go into the lies no feel out you know i'm just i'm clicking that doubt button just to just expand on a little bit had you ever actually seen any
Starting point is 02:17:28 situation like death cargo where the developer says the game exists people are playing it and enjoying it but no one actually is and everyone's like i can't get the game like is there anything where the developer where it wasn't real the developer insist there's not there is gameplay footage but it's like there's not actual matches there's bits of gameplay it's like no developer almost seems to like put wants to see if people will believe this is a game that they can buy and install on computers i can't say that i have amazing because the closest thing i can think of was uh the phantom console that's close that's but that never came then they never said it was out and people were enjoying it the phantom just ended up the infineum phantom infineum infineum labs
Starting point is 02:18:19 right uh they just said they were making a console and they had tons of support and people and big companies everyone's making games on our infineum console they just told big huge big lies about their big console but i don't think they ever like said it came out no no no i don't think so so i i think the death cargo situation is quite unique a beast onto itself yeah yeah i think so uh all right we got one coming in from akuta bar yeah i've seen akuta bar and um they're super best friends melee have you ever seen a stage demo of a game that gave you a very convincing awful impression but the game turned out great that's a really good question it's hard to it's hard to think of them though but um i'm thinking in particular of a 2016 demo of ff15 where they tried
Starting point is 02:19:08 the demo they tried to demo the fight with the titanon stage and it was a kind of sinky issue with the controller and five minutes of noctis getting pulped i actually had i had actually stayed mostly in the dark until that demo so i thought the game was gonna be shit uh i would like to know if you have any other examples that come to mind that's a good one i was actually thinking about the other day i was talking to someone about uh ff15 and i brought that up i was like remember it was like everyone was like bad demo good game uh i mean i'm here in here and there i'm here in doom it was like uh the doom have a really bad demo no because it was the demo no one saw remember the demo that they showed a quick oh okay so that's so that's yeah that's just like
Starting point is 02:19:50 press uh like yeah and it wasn't bad okay like it was like it wasn't the exact same game i mean no one got their hands on ff15 so if if if we're counting that then we can count like uh i guess not hands on but where they they show off a game and it looks like it's like a you know drake fell through the world in an uncharted four thing but i mean the game turned out like good so yeah that it's it's a hard one because you're trying to think of like the actual like disasters on stage but usually they wind up being disasters the games it's not the opposite metal gear rising was in a weird place early on but i still thought you thought it'll well yeah it might be bad you're actually like yeah i don't know the the slicing seemed a little bit difficult for like combat
Starting point is 02:20:35 because yeah it was kind of slow you mean the original kona the original metal gear rising not the platinum version but then you see the gifts of the wall running and you go fuck though that looks incredible yeah so i don't know if that uh i don't think that really counts you know um i'm having a hard one on that one i guess it was like one of the earlier showings of skyward sword was like the the the we all sink in and Miyamoto was frustrated and whatever and like you know skyward sword still had like you know control niggles here and there but that made a bad impression on me or you're watching and you're like well you know it's all the it'll still be of a certain quality and wall skyward stories is my favorite game i still wound up like enjoying it for the
Starting point is 02:21:20 most part so there was that kind of smelly demo yeah i guess so when i originally i originally thought that the question was about like a playable demo but if we're just going by stage there's only so many like we can't play much can we but i don't at the same time it's like if the game looks like a good game but then you see the the stage demo not working that doesn't really make you think the game is going to be shit it just makes you think there's a problem with the demo usually games that are actually like shitty you can tell they're shitty don't get a stage demo to begin at all right so i yeah that's the thing is like a nice contract is not up on the big screen getting a big demo i'm trying to think of something or or a fucking there's you never i don't know
Starting point is 02:22:02 whatever um regg and leave this is not going to show up on a stage anytime soon or nor would it back then good pull but uh yeah i just don't i just don't know if um any game that has a mistake on the demo or like a bug on the demo necessarily counts as much as a functioning demo where the game just looks uninteresting i have a really interesting when it goes way back and we don't have any personal experience with it but i was reading a thing it's at e3 1996 that's when they had the first version of starcraft out where it was garish it was like it was very 2d and they had pinks and purples and greens and that was when blizzard's mandate at the time is less just make warcraft in space and they showed it and the reception is everyone's like this is hideous
Starting point is 02:22:47 looking it looks awful what are you doing they were like shit fuck and then they just took it back and they said we got to scrap everything and redo everything if you see screenshots of it it looks horrible okay well my answer is king of fighters 14 yeah yeah when i played it at paxies last year i did not like it it was it was much slower than the final version it's horrible low times and just it just i was not liking it at all and it looked worse than what it did when it actually came out even before that patch and now i mean we literally i was literally giving it praise earlier on in this in this very podcast i'm like it's a really good fun fighting game lots of features lots of content and it's like a could it look better
Starting point is 02:23:37 yes i wish it did it got where it needed to be it got where it needed to be so yeah that's that's that's a good answer because we did both get hands on time on that i think you were a little more positive on it than me i can't remember uh yeah gameplay felt fine to me right away it was just visual it was it was just a 3d didn't look good and i know the unrealistic expectations coming off of 13 that's like it's depressing that they just don't have the money time or ability to do that anymore and anyone under like one sprite a day is a ridiculous workplace but that's why it's but king of fighters at that point was known for being the most beautiful looking fighting game yeah but what's great now is that if you know they go on to make a 15 that they have this really solid
Starting point is 02:24:26 3d engine and then they can just hopefully just layer in more like shaders and lighting and textures and hopefully it'll just look better yeah i i mean you know like when you heard that like it was like okay chinese company buys a ko f and then like really bad looking cg starts going about your like the ko f stead that's it it's a ko f destiny you know but like yeah but again they they you know they took enough feedback to fix that up and they kept the gameplay tight so god bless you know you did you did what you could out of that scenario and got it you got a good game out of it but um it'll never be the like cutting edge fighting game in terms of visuals because make no mistake when 12 came out like i was not i did not like 12 that much in terms of its gameplay gameplay was
Starting point is 02:25:13 terrible and its systems were gameplay was awful yeah it was like 13 was just like it looks good and it plays much much better and has much more like interesting systems that weren't like just bolted on nothings of systems it was the death cargo of fighting games oh my god except people got to play it all right and you got one more to pull out of the hat one more let's see let's see let's see let's see um looking for a good one you'll never find one let's just pick this randomly yeah yeah yeah that's good that's a good way to choose a hair snoopy chest fluff cast yes in episode 207 when discussing cloning privileges in strike vector ex pat said that cloning is a trick that the clone isn't actually you woolly agreed and
Starting point is 02:26:11 matt continued to talk about how rad fighter mechs okay that's how that sentence ends how rad fighter mechs uh my question is this considering that over the course of 98 of one year 90 percent of your body's atoms are replaced and over the course of 10 years every cell in your body is replaced where do you draw the line in terms of some things new still being you in essence where do you stand on the ship of thesis paradox the ship of these uh yeah so the ship of theseus paradox is the one that basically puts forth that if you take a boat and you say that this boat is you know your boat this is matt ship yes um i replace a plank of wood is it you still your ship yes okay i replace two so over time how much how how at what point how is it is this no
Starting point is 02:26:59 longer your boat uh i you know what you know what i'll say i'll i'll be very mathematically here when i lose when i no longer have 50 of that boat if you if then 51 of that boat is yours then it's yours when you have a shareholders majority yeah when you have a shareholders majority if if i keep cloning myself and each time i lose one percent of what makes me me when i go below 50 i don't think that's the longer me okay interesting i respect that i disagree i think uh i see consciousness as a continuity and i see that from moment to moment from time to time your identity is like it changes as things become a part of it and i don't think that your starting state differing from your end state is necessarily what determines what is you and what is not you in a philosophical sense
Starting point is 02:27:48 well i was i was kind of going through the boat analogy we said you replace a plank if you replace a little more that's simple than the human body right but if you it's just to me it's if you do it all immediately if everything gets replaced right away yeah if you tear down a house and put up build up a new house with completely different ingredients and material it's a different house yeah i agree if you rip my body apart and put it back together with completely new parts it's not me anymore it's a different body right you know what i mean but if you slowly replace things one by one uh i guess it feels like it almost feels like why would time i don't know i get where you're kind of going but like it i think it's because i think it's because identity you can acclimatize to that
Starting point is 02:28:34 new part and and that i think and i think your own yeah and and what and like the rate at which your mind identifies your body as yourself is it's a it's a variable relative rate but that is something to be accounted for so that when uh something suddenly becomes not you like it's too fast for your body to feel that this is well like in deus exer type of fiction where it's like oh i lost my arm replace it with something but your body rejects the foreign thing because it assumes it's in an invader and fights back to it's like no this is not actually part of me i won't accept it that's why they have that that drug in in deus ex that like it supposedly carries that actually helps the body uh uh accept that yeah what's it called um um god there's there's the
Starting point is 02:29:19 i had to say it for like a yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah no i know for years i tested that game or whatever something x isn't it but yes whatever but but i think that i think that like anytime you like adapt right you get used to something different being part of you then like that is then part that is then you i think it's that's something i just i think my only difference here is but like i say after a certain point neuropasine neuropasine thank you um after a certain point you you have less of what you had when you started and like that that's like that's my thing is just that's why i use the percentage thing is like after a certain point i no longer have the majority of either like a mental thing like your mind or your body physically if i get replaced with robot parts
Starting point is 02:30:06 i mean that's more of the physical nature of myself but my personality people don't hang around me for my stunning good looks and my ripped body they want to hang around me because like i don't know i'm a good friend or whatever you know what i mean i know what you mean it's like it's like i don't know look here's what i'm saying i'm saying that your body is really just a shell yes i'll agree and inside of it your consciousness and your identity let's call it i don't know a ghost i like that it floats about in a sense and with a sense of identity yes and if we were to take that and discard the shell and just keep the ghost and then upload the ghost to the internet yes yes so that you become a living conscious entity right that is one with the internet
Starting point is 02:30:57 are you still you yes i think you are um i think the major yeah is still the major even though the major is also the internet so if you remember in the sixth day with Arnold Schwarzenegger it was cloned blank bodies and you re-uploaded your consciousness to them each time and you remember what you just remember when people get killed in that movie they get re-uploaded to a new body like immediately like immediately because their their minds are being backed up on hard drives and shit and they're just like oh finally i'm back all right let's go and then you just start running that's like still you but other then other fictions will say well what if something goes wrong each time you get cloned you get less and less of yourself there's that
Starting point is 02:31:42 but also what you just said about um um your your mind it's like the robocop thing robocop it's barely him yeah in his mind he has these fractured memories when you start going in that type of fiction you start presenting that idea like there's so much that's been ripped down replaced like i'm gonna say robocop is barely alex murphy like he is on the he owns one tiny little apartment to him though in that city right to him though of course he's he's still him because he's still got his brain and such now i mean the the the scary version of this and this is the part that like ooh the scary version well it's not so much the scary version but it's like it's the real talk right and the part that like i you know i enjoy talking about this type of stuff is is the fact
Starting point is 02:32:32 that you're like you go okay so um what is your body right your body is a collection of organs putting like bones and whatnot together and such a bunch of cells really all trying to survive okay how do they survive right and this is this is something that like Richard Dawkins actually gets into in some of his books but the basic idea is that um that your sense of self and you're and like what you consider i is possibly not confirmed but possibly well i'm not sure if anything can be confirmed in this in this type of talk yeah it's possible that the reason why you have your sense of self yeah is because through through mutation and through random chance right the configuration of human being that saw all of its parts connected to itself and all of these
Starting point is 02:33:19 cells and everything that's a part of its body yeah as the one that saw it as all me it saw it as all one unit one organism one being that does that needed protection and preservation would have a better chance at surviving than a collection of parts that were working in that were symbiotically with each other where the heart's doing its own thing just pumping blood and the heart's not aware of anything else and the feet are just trying to get where it's going and then it's like the stomach needs food and the blood's going around the body and the fingers are like what like if you were just a collection of random bits and pieces and like your eyes just felt like eyes witnessing things and reporting back to like nothing you know and then your brain is like hey those signals are
Starting point is 02:34:00 getting sent somewhere exactly and if you if you felt disconnected from the rest of your body constantly and there was no sense of eye you would have a much harder time surviving and preserving and continuing to propagate your species right right so in through free mutation there was a shot that you would basically get a version of humans where they're like oh fuck i need to protect myself yeah and that's what the illusion of eye and what of self is so that question itself you have to take it back to the root of what you think identity is okay so that's really interesting and if someone's to say that to me i'd be like yeah i could see that i could see why the the sense of eye is like a like a protection like saying but you know where do animals fit in for example because animals do not
Starting point is 02:34:45 have a sense of eye or like i am but they have impulses saying i don't want to get fucking wiped out of there yeah get out of there naturally fight or fight it's fight or flight exactly so like does that fit in at all it's they want to procreate too and they want if anything animals have more of a sense of like gotta fuck to i gotta protect kids but we will we will always like people make the constitution i don't want fucking kids i'm not part of that so it's weird yeah it is i think the i mean animals is awful animals have a simplified version of of you know if anything of just the basic things that we have in with survival right and they the reason why they're still around is because they're individual machines they're biological machines
Starting point is 02:35:35 that yeah like worked and allowed them to like worked way better than millions upon millions of random ass variations that were inferior to that right the dog and cat you see today is the best version of a dog and a cat because it's here i don't know i i think there must be it's the one that survived mega cat okay but a mega cat that's crushed under its own giant way enough you know what i mean all that to say that i think that as long as uh matoko kusanagi feels that she can call herself by her name and call herself i while freely floating in this ghost consciousness of infinity she still has an identity there's no body there um i think it's legit because she thinks it's legit and i think that's all it takes yeah uh so you know to answer
Starting point is 02:36:38 the question i suppose there is no answer but the answer lies in the heart of battle but it's interesting to think about it it's interesting to think about and i my feelings are not the correct answer but my feelings are that gradual change still feels like a part of you sudden total change feels like it would be different what if you had two heads and it was another guy well i idol and and yeah and i don't know whatever but okay i always am i controlling left the half of the body am i controlling the whole body it's the most uncoordinated mess of a person ever i mean i'm controlling left and control right you know sime's twins that are like super attached to yeah that's true you know like are a thing but they are actually two people just
Starting point is 02:37:29 like yeah that just attached yeah yeah yeah you know anyway um yes in conclusion player play near says everyone okay obviously we're going to but uh there's your discount uh philosophy talk there you go that's not what you tune in for but every once in a while it's fun it's fun what's coming out existential crisis transhumanism is coming out this week we're playing another day since game now um so what what uh we you know let's just go and say you and i are going to start playing uh mark echoes getting up um contents under pressure that's starting this week the pressure is high the contents are under great great duress and pressure you want to just talk about what the fuck happened so you'll see in the first two parts that it just kind of the after the second part of
Starting point is 02:38:30 this lp goes up it just kind of ends in a weird spot we were playing the xbox version of it on disc and everything and then it just died the xbox just turned itself off that that was one of our modded xbox i believe it was pats that we got from arie the greek engineer uh so that so fuck that can't can't trust that xbox ever bro you gotta go subway surfroom bro you gotta you gotta you gotta paint some bomb ass pieces on that wall bro bro i'm just saying i know you didn't ask me but rosario dawson though that's such a good reveal i'm just saying i totally forgot her that she was in that so we're gonna be playing that so we're gonna have to switch to either another version we're trying to check out the steam version make sure we have no controller
Starting point is 02:39:17 foibles but the steam version is not without its foibles it has some foibles especially the control issues since it has partial controller support but we're gonna try to work on that at the very end of the day we'll just take one of i have several xbox's originals so we might just continue on there but it's good fun so far looking forward to see because you have never you never saw that game running right yeah no no i just i only ever played i know you you know you know other stuff somehow but i don't actually haven't actually played it neither of us have actually beaten it or whatever so that's gonna be doing um i think we're wrapping up i think there's one more part of uh lane war um because you know cat lady finished so so you know i it's not such a secret
Starting point is 02:39:59 that uh i sat down with pat and uh just we farted into microphones for a couple hours and then minecraft happened to be playing on a tv near you yeah so that's going on maybe i should tell i'll maybe i should put a poll out asking people if i should have minecraft completely muted or if i should have or if we should play other music in the room or like like like should we have minecraft the game completely muted or should we have it barely audible have the audio of a rick and morty episode going on in the background i wonder you know because i hear a lot of people saying i wish they they turn off minecraft completely and i want to know if that's the absolutely put out a poll for that cool i can't imagine anyone be like i want to hear the epic
Starting point is 02:40:41 whatever it is that's happening in minecraft uh see how you guys doing that walking walking dead is also we have someone dies someone dies in a walking dead game um no probably minecraft oh are you serious yeah wow okay um do you it's the big okay i thought i mean i thought i meant you died oh well i've i've been dead you've been dead for a while i didn't sleep last night it just seems like it um so uh walking dead probably my least favorite thing telltale's ever done of what i've played i was seven played minecraft you know i assume that's worse uh but really really disappointed with with that game in general sorry it's no it is what it is it had some bits it had some good bits but me and pat when we finish it we talk about exactly like
Starting point is 02:41:40 as a few changes could have made this totally fine and like good even but for whatever reason they chose what they chose for walking dead the new frontier super best friends play continues to staunchly refuse to play tales from the borderlands is what people are saying yeah um it just we were like what was like we have no interest in tales of the border like we have no interest in the i played them i played them no no you did but when there was talk of doing stuff it was like well we don't care about borderlands so why would we play this oh the main games yes yes so why would we play this spin-off we don't really understand and now it's just like now we're just ages away from that game being done it's still the best one they've ever made so i don't know maybe someday
Starting point is 02:42:28 so yeah all that all that's kind of wrapping up continuing and the shit so yeah i think that's it for now it's all we can announce it's all we got nothing else i don't think we've actually decided about anything else after that point i mean you know batman's coming back so we're gonna do that yeah but that's gonna take a while for it is gonna take a while yeah all right so that's what's going down um i'm looking forward to i'm looking forward to la la i'm looking forward to la la land i'm looking forward to res that's gonna be fun um seeing some boys but i'm also looking forward to uh yeah fuck it let's throw it out there uh i'm going to be heading down to amsterdam whoa for the first time i'm gonna be gonna be funny if you're like this is my seventh
Starting point is 02:43:20 trip yeah yeah no it's my first time across the uh across the ocean in not japan right um so i'm gonna be heading over to amsterdam for i think about a week um still just kind of wandering around well when is this uh dates are not a hundred percent set yet but they'll be uh oh um end of end of this month end of this month cool end of this month um and uh i'm gonna be basically just wandering around and you know i don't have a full itinerary because japan it's like i've been planning all all my life your life yeah so i had the list i knew exactly what to do where to go and came out of the room you had a little list of places yeah exactly and that's the only place on earth you know besides like uh well there's a couple there's not there's like one or two other
Starting point is 02:44:08 places where i'm like okay i know exactly where i want to go but amsterdam's place where i'm just like let's just go check it out right and might end up other places but yeah if people have like fun ideas and suggestions let me know uh things are worth checking out i heard that there's a two michelin restaurant so i don't know maybe i'll see if i can get in a meal over there that's like i don't know if they're gonna fucking kick out a ragamuffin like me but uh i wouldn't be surprised if they do if they don't that'd be cool um and yeah i don't know if we have anybody that any fans that listen from the netherlands but if you do none off the top of my head maybe i can say hello i don't know sure get in touch maybe i'll i'll say something or maybe i'll end up somewhere i don't know i'm
Starting point is 02:44:50 just kind of weirdly winging this out there but yeah i'll be in the netherlands for a little bit because who knows i don't know who knows uh uh this week uh yeah i really want to check out sonic mania and observer uh the horror cyberpunk game that stars root grower observer there's another yeah there's another one there's another one uh that stars root grower of uh hobo with a shotgun and blade runner fame nice so i want to check that out because it's from the makers of layers of fear so um i want to see if that's a thing or not so cool um uh yeah transhumanism i guess that's it i'm looking forward to continue being i me myself in in this body yeah i i also look forward to you continuing to be yourself the woolliness of woolly and the madness of matt
Starting point is 02:45:44 um as as we move forward in time metatude um and more than anything i look forward to mech romancer see you later guys see uh me i'm you run before your eyes, won't just multiply, got to play my rights if time i'm the power growth, try to stop a show, might as well go try, stop time so you know that we out there, swatting lights and i make it, can't move fast without break it, can't hold on or i won't change
Starting point is 02:47:41 and our voices swing out, yeah took the mask off to feel free we're finding out in the debris, now and all the time we'll take you and in a stream, i'm not a pigment of you, ill in no time, i'm just as real as, i'm just as dangerous, i feel so known you'll find a place of darkness, find an every breath, find inside your head, your heart and now your playful brain, tries to fight in vain, you're enviable, apart you and you know we were out there, swatting lights and i make it, you're a part of the decade, can't hold on or i won't change
Starting point is 02:49:36 and our voices swing out, yeah took the mask off to feel free we're finding out in the debris, now we know that life will change me you

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