Castle Super Beast - SBFC 211: Icelandic Necropants: Always Bet On 「GOUGI」

Episode Date: August 22, 2017

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I think we're good. I think we're doing it. Everyone will let you know when we're not doing it. I think it's happening. It should be fine. How's it going everybody? Laptops shut off like for no fucking reason. Turned itself off. Yeah trust it. Your Xbox shut off. Yeah. That happens too. I can't wait for all the power to shut off the company Xbox that is. Shutouts to all our bros in Midland. Stay safe. Don't look at the sun in one hour. And yeah, I guess that's the thing too. Right. So you would think that like the entire world was going to experience a solar eclipse and it was. That's not how it's not a lot of eclipse, but it's really just a specific section of well. It's really
Starting point is 00:00:52 like Salem. Yeah, basically. There's two actual points that for a little while for about an hour, the Fire Nation will be completely worthless. We'll be able to beat them. And my favorite is that there's a bunch of flat earthers that are going to burn their eyes out because there's a meeting to look at the sun and don't use NASA's CGI glasses. Yes, if solar eclipses are real, then how come you need NASA's special fancy expensive glasses to see them? You show NASA. You look at that. Do not look at the sun. If you're a flat earth, you're not. If you're a flat earth or maybe you should look at the sun though. It's going to be a shame where a child is going to miss a bunch of paper views. How
Starting point is 00:01:33 awesome would that self correcting problem be if there was a weird co-correlation between the belief in flat earth and that NASA was going to infect you with some crazy, blind disease. Yeah, don't put those glasses on. That's going to make you think the earth is round. That doesn't solve the problem because instead what it turns out is that the NASA glasses are sent out to all of their friends to protect you from the reaction of the eclipse with the chemtrails that NASA also put into the sky. Chemtrails or contrails? Chemtrails. Contrails. That's totally normal. Chemtrails. But a flat earth earth could get their eyes burned out from the eclipse by not giving a fuck, right? And be like, I'm just going
Starting point is 00:02:13 to look at it. Could they explain away what it was when their eyes get burned out? Can they be like, how do they keep flat earthing going? Well, it's really easy to keep flat earthing going when you can't see anymore. And the earth is really flat. They're able to explain away every time they get their ass blown out, so getting their eyes burnt out shouldn't be much of a problem either. And you mean, you mean figuratively get their ass blown out? That's correct. Alright, because I always think that the funniest part of it is when they go, our meeting will be at 7pm EST. And then someone will go, we have wait, what? Yeah, we have millions of believers around the globe. The Flat Earth Society says
Starting point is 00:02:57 yeah, I'm sure. I mean, there's six and a half billion, seven billion people now. That's easy. I bet I could get a million people to believe that I'm tall. Now, as far as I understand, I could use a photo shop. You could. You could. Well, here's my understanding, right, is that the eclipse goes down and it really only affects like a strip of like basic of America. And then everywhere, the further you get away from that strip is the less of an eclipse you get. Meanwhile, if you're in that strip, that's where all the blood and demons are going to be. That's correct. That's where the faces will rise out of the ground. Yeah, but it's only on that specific line, which might not even be like a significant
Starting point is 00:03:37 entire state. Like it's really just like a part of a state could just be like in a random spot in a forest or in an outhouse. Apparently, we're going to get ours in 2024. Oh, cool. Well, we can actually look at nothing. We're going to get like not that we're going to be in here when it happens up here. We're going to see like 60%. Take that's not bad. No, but passing grade, but we're going to get the total around 2024. And you got to love time to shine ironically. You got to love the fun image that was that CBS News photo of news anchor person. Well, it wasn't like a Walter Cronkite. I don't remember who it was, but it was basically from the 70s going like and the next solar eclipse will be in will be August 21st, 2017,
Starting point is 00:04:25 38 years from now. Hopefully that'll dawn on a more peaceful country. And a little dawn on a world at peace, a world at peace. You're correct. He nailed it. He super nailed it. Yeah, everything's great. All right. Perfect, even perfect. Perfect. There you go. Which is better, which is better. Perfect. We got to we got to sort it out right now. Are we going for tattoo assassins? Are we going for Street Fighter two? The thing with tattoo assassins that we need to actually have it running in front of us to really, really appreciate it. Until then, Street Fighter two. Are you really asking the question of like, are we going for tattoo assassins Street Fighter two? Because dude, there's something nice and wholesome about where the guy's really trying his
Starting point is 00:05:11 hardest. Yeah, Laura is perfect. That's a huge mistake in the judgment. They should have hired back the same guy that did this Street Fighter one announcing. That was probably just like a Japanese man. Watch that. Don't forget. I believe that was an AI. Yeah, that said that. You got that before you beat me. Try again. Man, you're too accurate. You're over exaggerating it, but you're making it better. Yeah, like hey, like how I do. He's he's really drowned out. You know who's not drowned out? Our boy, Dye Pod. Tell me you've seen that trailer. Yes. Ah, fucking Dye Pod is the announcer for the fighting game Cerebral. And he's so good at it. Sit down, be humble. I love it. It's smooth as fuck. For those that know, Dye Pod did some of the weird
Starting point is 00:06:09 voiceovers for the latter episodes of Omicron. Look, Omicron. And like he did these weird voiceovers where he sent me an email with no context. There you go. Send me an email. These files attached. He's like use these for Omicron. Perfect. That's good. Yeah, that's good. I like that. But no, like in this in this going following suit, I feel with the way that Skull Girls had a really charming, fun announcer that's memorable. Yeah, I like that. Like I want these Western attempts, Western fighting games coming out, these Western 2D fighting games with like style and grace and ease. I want all of that coming out in a way where it's and it's really good if that announcer has a funny face. Yes. Yes. But I guess what I'm trying to say is that I don't
Starting point is 00:06:55 feel that many Japanese games or that Japanese fighter like has a chance at getting that good of an announcing job. Like we kind of just accept the normal or they usually will hire like one of the voice actors. Like they get Shingo. They got him to do like the announcing for one of the K-pop games like 2003. I still think Fist of the North Star is incredibly strong. Sure. Yeah, it is. No, no. Arxis has it down. Yeah. Arxis is a completely different section. They figured it the fuck out and that's fine. But besides them doing something special, I feel like the average fighting game, they just take one of the voice actors. Let it go. Well, no, they take all voice actors. And that's all there is to it. They take all the
Starting point is 00:07:38 voice actors and then they sell you the remaining voice actor announcer pack for free. Oh, yeah, yeah. But well, that is Arxis as well. That is Arxis as well. But no, but I want Nanako to announce your rounds. But there's a subtlety to like really stylish announcing in fighting games that you're only going to get from Cerebral or Skullgirls or something that I feel is Western developed because they're like the Japanese game is not going to care that much. They the English is fine. Not necessarily like Street Fighter 4, like Super Street Fighter 4 when they got the voice actor that's been in everything. He was he was Seth. He was yeah. And he was that was the best fighter. No, the violence is a beautiful thing. No, no, that's the second one in Super Street Fighter.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They changed the announcer for that. Super Street Fighter 4. Yeah, I think that was the one that stood out because that was a well known English voice actor that did it. And yeah, that was smooth. But like even Street Fighter 4 was kind of weird. It felt like the American guy that was in the Japanese office. Right. Right. That air about it. Yeah, because the things they're going to be saying are still Japanese script. Yes. You know, and when you're playing fucking Under Night in Birth, ex latest. Is that really what that's what it's literally called? EXC late became EXC late bracket ST so that the pun of latest will be used. So UNI-L is now UNI-ist. It's the worst. But anyway, when you KO somebody in that,
Starting point is 00:09:10 it says so nice. It says, Vanishment of Void. And it's like, I don't care. I understand that. Who you hired, they're going to read those lines and be like, okay, I guess. If I was presenting with that line, I would have read it with gusto and been like, I'm totally on board, but I don't think almost anybody else would would be like, Vanishment of Void. You know, what is a rebel exactly? It's a one and then a two. Yeah. So that's all I guess it's just that like, I think that, you know, Western fighters are going to be doing this and I'm so glad because Dipod fucking killed it in that little trailer. Can't wait to hear all the little isms and fun memorable quotes. That's cool. I hope there's a voice line hidden in there. We're just like, I hate Matt.
Starting point is 00:09:52 I mean, I'm glad your sense of importance is such that you would think you would be even mentioned. No, Dipod would do it. Okay. Well, it's what happens when you tell me every day hates me. So one out of every thousand times you hit start. Yeah, exactly. The answer goes, I hate Matt. I hate him. I don't like jury. Boy, I don't like jury. Only happens when you pick the jury colors on a character. This does not remind me of Cody. Exactly. Things like that. Yeah, that'd be fun. I don't know. You tell me what's up. Moderator podcast, Willie. Yeah. I don't know. Ever since you just walked in, to be fair, ever since seeing the mess over a giant bomb from years ago, where they had their the controls or tricaster on their own,
Starting point is 00:10:45 that little clip. Oh, the one where Jeff was like hitting the button. It was fucking amazing. Oh, man. And maybe we should attempt to recapture. Did we do that at some point? We have, but we have to really recapture the luster of the train. Well, we had a fucking ghetto-ass podcast outside once. We did. We had one. And it wasn't that ghetto. It was actually, it was actually quite, exactly. The construction crew was better. The outside one. The construction crew was better. The sounds of wind and birds chirping is not that bad. But the sounds of guys saying get out of here. And stage is being pulled down. That's a bet. You need to get out of here. It's a safety hazard to continue podcasting. All right, Matt. You moderate our podcast.
Starting point is 00:11:23 You walk us through what you want to talk about. I'll talk about a thing real quick. Yeah, I'm actually a little under the weather. So by all means. Did the bleach get too far in? Yeah, it might have. You guys heard of a show called The Ozarks. Yes, I have. It's got a arrested development man and it Jason Bateman. Yeah, fucking up all over. It's it's on it's on Netflix. It's a Netflix exclusive. It's I started watching about I'm halfway through. It's think of the initial setup like what's the most base setup of of breaking bad? Like if you could in just a few words, I'm sure it's into the dope game. Okay, I broke need money to crime. That's it. That's the one. Okay. So Jason Bateman is not broke, but criminals will kill him. He needs to
Starting point is 00:12:13 wash $500 million over the course of five years. That's a lot. Yeah. And there's a good reason for it. So he decides to do so in The Ozarks, which is a lake chain in Missouri, I believe. The Ozarks is like a drama that's very like initially like breaking bad, but Jason Bateman's character and I like Jason Bateman fine and arrested development, but most movies I see him in. I don't particularly have any feelings for him. I thought it was really creepy and weird and Juno, which suited him. I forgot that he was in Juno, but he's kind of annoying and like horrible bosses and stuff. But maybe that's just the character. So like, I was like, all right, I'm going to watch him in a drama. Sure. And he does
Starting point is 00:12:57 a really, really good job. Basically he's a financial planner. So all of his mind is money. It's how do how do we get this to work? And he needs to figure out how to wash all this money. He needs to uproot his family. And there's a criminal that's like checking in with him. When he goes to The Ozarks, he's like, I'm a super fine, a savvy financial planner from Chicago. These are all country bumpkins. And he walks in and he starts making all these moves and all the country bumpkins that you think you're all smarter than us. And he's like, yeah. And he's like, there's much smarter people that have died trying to do what you're doing, which is taking advantage of us. There's a whole body pile. We usually throw them in. And he's like, Oh, so he may have chosen
Starting point is 00:13:38 the wrong place to swim. So every episode, it's like, there's this issue with his wife. She's got this going on. There's, there's some hillbillies that are like, know what he's trying to do. There's an FBI, like every episode, there's like, Oh, shit, what the hell is going on? It's expertly written, really, really well done so far. Watch five episodes in at the start of every episode, it says The Ozarks and has a big O and the O gets separated into four quadrants on each image of each quadrant is a thing you'll be seeing in that episode, like a decapitated arm of vulture, a thing of bleach and like the Bible. That's a nice stuff like that. So I'm about five episodes in it's 10 episodes. So I'm really enjoying that. I went to the Pride Parade yesterday,
Starting point is 00:14:23 which I never usually do because I'm always out of town. How was it? It was good. It was good. I went with my sister. This is just super mega gay. It's like, yeah, because my sister is that before or after turbo gay? It's after turbo. It's super mega gay where she's like, Oh, God, I'm such a she gets that she has the hiking boots. She goes camping. She's angry about it. Okay. She's like, damn it. Okay, I'm just so the thing. But I can't help it. So I went with her to that and Liana, we had a good time looking around at some stuff and we had a good time eating and I always always miss it. And I'm like, Oh, is Justin Trudeau going to be or is he going to be? No, I missed this one. I didn't get to go the one you don't worry, you'll get to touch the Prime Minister eventually.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Apparently everyone gets everyone gets a go. It's all right. As Canadian citizens, you get five minutes alone after the election. Like I had two friends. So we're like, Hey, guess what? What? I just hung out with the Prime Minister for like an hour and a half. Yeah, man. That's an incident. I was at a party and he showed up and there's photos of my friend just with the Prime Minister. Oh, yeah. Like that's what that's what that's how we roll. The fuck is it? And I have a different friend who happens to be that versus boyfriend who's like, Oh, yeah, I hung out with him in the Metro for like 20 minutes talking about stuff after the thing. I think it's your right to get at least five minutes alone with the Prime Minister. You can
Starting point is 00:15:50 do whatever. Cut Trudy down. Talk. Cut Trudy down at the Couch Tower. Most people hanging out. Most people just want to smoke. We box them. Yeah, you can box them right into him at a bell pro kill you. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. Right into him at a right into him at a La Fleur's. Yeah, he would never go to a Bel Prove, but it's only a little bit. No, he was in that La Fleur's next to Arlie, the original where they get the standing room only hot dogs. Okay, that's real inside baseball. So really quick hockey for that matter. I played a shitload of games. I want to go like really blast through them. Let's blast. Starcraft remastered go weird. You download regular Starcraft, then you download a patch and you boot it up and it's
Starting point is 00:16:35 just regular old Starcraft. And you have to go deep into the options and click a thing that says HD graphics. Then the entire game switches to widescreen. I had a friend who downloaded it and like was like, is this fucking broken because he loaded it up and it uses the super ancient CG intros. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's all like in like two by one in your screen. Nice. But you put three master stuff on it. It looks I really like all the new portrait art. That's like my favorite part of Starcraft. I love like I hated the 3D models from Warcraft 3, the little 3D models that because they look because they were just a 3D model zoomed in. Yeah. And they were just like their animation was fine to like the CG 3D models of Starcraft. Yeah, like they're like CGI render
Starting point is 00:17:22 and they're just looped in animation. So I play that the first couple of missions are probably going to go back to it. Really liked it. A single player is fucking fantastic. That's what I want to do. That music is some of the best that Terran shit that you age. Terran shit. To Woolly Woolly's recommendation. I well, I pulled it out for other reasons. But I felt okay, my PSVR was in a grocery bag behind my couch. Why? Why not? Why not? I have my next to my TV. It has gathered a significant amount of dust. Yeah, I've plugged it in and left it plugged in because I've been showing people res. It makes me really upset because outside of going back to play res, I don't really have much that I want to do with it. So I brought it out because there's like four games
Starting point is 00:18:05 where I was like, Whoa, I'll try those. And one of those was Mortal Blitz. Mortal Blitz. Mortal Blitz is the best way I can describe it. It's bullet storm meets time crisis, but not regular time crisis, like time crisis raising storm or one of those offshoots of time crisis, where it's really fun that you have dual pistols and you're shooting things, you have to dodge behind things, but you have like a TK coil. Yeah. And you pull guys and jump them in the air and then you juggle them. And that's the main gameplay loop. And I'm totally fine with that. I don't know where this game is developed because it seems very Japanese. The character models, the voiceovers, the design was super Western, but it feels very Japanese in its presentation and story, but it feels also
Starting point is 00:18:51 American in its gameplay. I don't know. And you're on well, I mean, and you're on a you're on rails, right? You're not so much on rails. You see scenes and you'll see a thing say tell use your teleport to teleport there and you just zoom and you're stuck in a scene, you shoot, then you click and you kind of zoom forward. So it's kind of on rails, but you do have control of when you want to move. It's weird, but I only played about like 15 minutes of it because I played these VR games, like one after the other. The other thing I played was Theseus, which is a very hard thing to talk about because South Korea, South Korea. Wow. Okay. Theseus is very strange because it's a third person PSVR game where you're constantly looking down. You're looking at classic Resident Evil camera
Starting point is 00:19:40 angles. You're in different parts of the environment. You're looking and you're controlling your character Theseus. And all you're doing is kind of walking and climbing on things and then just walking and climbing on more things, platforming a little. You have like a little weapon and you swing and that's it. And I'm like, okay, but the problem is that the art and the atmosphere is really awesome. Like it kind of shows that the labyrinth that the Minotaur is in is like in a other dimension with floating chunks of rock everywhere. And there's this far off light and the Minotaur is probably the coolest Minotaur I've ever seen. It's like 50 feet tall and has tusks growing out of every part of its face. And you always hear it in the background. So there's a
Starting point is 00:20:28 sense of dread, but the actual gameplay is just very just walking and not doing much. And they kind of have a little shadow of a clausus where there's kind of a dormant style voice guiding you. And it's neat, but there's not much there gameplay wise. But like, I would love this team. It's an Italian team, I believe, to make like the art of for another game or something. So like, do you have to like stop them from getting all porked up for what's her name? Yes, horrible Minotaur. Oh, yeah, yeah, horrible Minotaur. Okay. Minotaur is getting boned up. So so I did Bonatar. I didn't finish it. But guess what, if there's one enemy in a maze, what do you think you do for the most of the game? Hide or run from it? There's a sequence
Starting point is 00:21:16 where you hide from it. But then that's like, spiders, fight spiders. Oh, no. So that's where you just kind of wave your arm around. I like, but I'll play it a little bit more just to see where it goes. But like right now, I was like, Oh, this is really cool, atmospherically, but I don't know. You guys see Matterfall on PS4? Matterfall. I totally played that. I played Matterfall at Montreal Comic Con, actually. Yeah. And that's a very basic but simple fun platform shooter gun thing. Yeah, it's it's kind of like House Marks, other games, or it's a bit of a shmup. But you you have a polarity. Twin stick, twin stick platformer shooter, you know, but you have like a dash that that negatively affects enemies of the opposite color. So that's
Starting point is 00:21:59 the thing is like, you know, you got to have the one mechanic to really bring it all together slash make the game's existence worth it. And in this case, it's the there's there's blue surfaces that you can dash into to make solid or go through them. And you can all you also have a gun that does the same thing. So basically, you can like platform, like boost jump through a surface, and then you aim down and shoot it to make it solid and land on it. And your boost also goes through bullets. Yeah. But like some enemies can't really be can't be killed. But there's done them with that same guy. Yeah, you it's almost like Mighty number nine, where you can dash the enemies and they crystallize, then you shoot them. But like it's fun. This this version of the game. So
Starting point is 00:22:41 the sag is almost over. It is it almost does. So those handhelds come out. The only bad thing about Matterfall is that its main character is just so generic. It's just like this guy. It's a girl. Oh, okay, excuse me. Yeah, because you I'm sure you didn't see the intro, but it's a girl. But you couldn't really tell if you're like looking at the game. But it's just a girl. It's like she looks like she's from the conduit. Yeah, what are you going to do? I mean, look, if the company decides that they don't want to animate a face, then that's fine. No, that's fine. But the armor is just not interesting. It's just not great. We're never going to get a follow up to that awesome conduit ending, are we? No, man, the closest thing is is that that
Starting point is 00:23:22 other game that came out where you kill the beasts and stuff. What's that first person shooter you shoot like Griffins and legendary legendary legendary that that still doesn't really it's not close. It's not close, but it's kind of it's a closest, I think. I don't know. Why don't you work on that piece? I did. I did some some. We both did. We both got a taste. Put some time on it a little bit. You didn't make it good. We did. No, it's not. We did. No, he made a good in the in the context of his job, perhaps, but he didn't make it good gameplay wise. Neither did I. I'll tell that story again one day. I got like two more really quickly. I also play paranormal activity, the lost soul on PSVR,
Starting point is 00:24:07 which I really, really, really liked. Are you the camera or a person? You're a person and you go into a house. You're just going to the house to investigate it because it's going to be on the market. Is it three or films? It's 3D. It's your first person and you're walking into a thing. And when you walk into there's cameras all over the house and you find TVs that show the looped video footage of what's been happening in the house before you got there. And it was very, very, very creepy. It was more like the entire house is a puzzle and you find different items and you just kind of like figure out, OK, where does this go? What do I need this for? You find a book that has spells and I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. It got it got very, very interesting.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Didn't didn't really get through it too much played like an hour of it. It did. It was the only PSVR game I played in that block that did make me feel a little like whenever you'd walk forward, you would alert my stomach would like lurch out a little bit only when I walk forward though. And then I seem to get used to it after a while. But like the initial first 20 minutes, I was like, and then I kind of acclimatize to it. Nothing at all like here they lie. I feel like a paranormal activity game should be the money should be spent instead of on 3D on like a 3D camera and filming a couple of scenes and here's where I understand who your your process on like the artistic way to do it. But that's not the reality because the
Starting point is 00:25:30 whole reality of paranormal activity is that it's made as cheaply as possible. Yeah. So that's the last thing they would do. Yeah. So are you going with thematics of the story or of production? Graphically, the game is not amazing. It's not as it's become a lot less expensive nowadays to shoot that way because like there are documentaries that go up on for an on VR compilations that are like filmed in 3D. Yeah. But I mean, like the original paranormal activity cost $16,000. Yeah, of course. Right. Right. Right. Right. But I mean, they made their money. No, I think I said this to you a few days ago. Either way, I think I think it would be more effective. It was made for $100,000 but it made like over a hundred million dollars. So yeah. And the last thing I played a little
Starting point is 00:26:15 Kickstarter game that has a demo that I highly recommend. It's called Okinawa Rush. And basically, it's a 2D side scroller character action beat them up thing. But there's also some RPG elements. dishwasher like I wouldn't say like dishwasher. It's more because we're using that more and more of these. We are. But Willie has a lot of those systems from Karate Master. This reminds me of something and I can't like where you go into a dojo and you train. Okay. And it has very in-depth training sequences like how to parry. You can parry. You can launch guys. You have strikes that attack both sides. Okay. It's it's we have it up on the screen. The character art is not great when you look at the actual like just art of the cut scenes. But in game, it's quite fun. You can do
Starting point is 00:27:00 a lot of stuff. There's a lot of secrets in the levels. The demo that's on the Kickstarter page is like about one level and then some training sequences. I really enjoy it. I think Willie, if we take a look at that, you might really like it because it was very fun, very quick from what I played. And I was like, Oh, God, I can play this has a very modest goal like 10,000 Euro pounds. The art style of the sprites reminds me of Hagane a little bit. Yeah. Hagane or one of those late era 16 bit games. And it has full co-op too. Okay. Which I didn't get a chance to try that. Really, really liked it so far. So if anyone is interested in that, it has a free demo. And yeah, that's that's that's a way one more thing, one more thing, because I did actually want
Starting point is 00:27:43 to talk about this the most. How many games are there out now? I think not counting companies just going on games. Yeah. You're at four. Okay. Ruiner. Obsolver. Redeemer. And the one I played is Observer. Observer. Yeah. Observer is the horror cyberpunk horror game for the makers of layers of fear. And not too long ago, they announced Rudger Howard of Blade Runner and Hobo with a shotgun fame is the main character in this before that character had no identity. They have his face, they have his voice acting, and it's probably one of those games. I'm like, huh, this isn't what I thought it was. Because I assume cyberpunk horror game. But it's more like Soma. I know I thought more of like how layers of fear was just
Starting point is 00:28:35 scary inside a house. I thought this was scary inside a cyberpunk house. Yeah. And that was it, you know. But no, it is a fucking noir detective story where in the first hour of play, I didn't really see anything scary. I was talking to people. I was piecing together evidence of a greater crime. There is a missing person. I can't find he can't find his son. And you have a biological scan button and a technological scan button, meaning if I want to look for stuff that's biological like blood trails visors. And if I want to look for stuff that has to do with computers, whatever, I can click this and you'll show it everything. And there's tons of things you find and read and lore. And Rutger Howard does an amazing job
Starting point is 00:29:24 with a voice acting where it's like one of those actors that actually puts in extra value because and it's just Polish as fuck this game. Every single character has a Polish last name. And it takes place like 2098. And that's far enough I jacked into someone's mind that's about to die, for example. And then you have a sequence, which was really cool for about five minutes, where you go into fractured memories and they do a lot of cool tricks with visual things happening and what that looks like. And what happens when you're jacked into the mind of someone that actually dies mid jacking. And that looks really cool. But that sequence lasted for not five minutes, not 10 minutes. It lasted for like a long time where I was actually getting okay,
Starting point is 00:30:12 I get it now. I have seen this person's life. And I was like, holy shit, it keeps going and it wasn't getting more interesting. It was getting like less interesting because I've seen your tricks now about how you're presenting all of this. And I'm like, okay, let's let's please hurry it up. And then after that, I finally got back into the game and I'm just I'm casing the apartment block that I'm in. I'm going through multiple floors knocking on people's doors. And in this world, this is interesting. Almost very few people leave their rooms. Everyone's jacked into cyberspace or whatever. So you never you almost never see anyone face to face. You see one or two people face to face. But everyone else, you just see through a small little hologram, just basically
Starting point is 00:30:55 a bunch of looping images on their door. And you're just having full conversations and you get like a sense of who that person is. Some people are like fuck off, leave. And then you get more and you have responses to everybody. And it was very, very interesting. It wasn't particularly least scary. And I'm like, huh, this is more interesting than I thought. And there's also a drug taking mechanic, where you're infected with something when you go into your pause menu. It's like the game's like, you want to take a drug because and I don't know what it does. The game has not told me what it does or what it doesn't do. So it's a little like we happy few a little bit. Yeah, or at least the painful. Yeah. And I'm just I don't know what to think about the game right
Starting point is 00:31:38 now because it's good. It's interesting. But I'm like, what am I actually doing? Solving a crime? But I am. But I see no greater plot after that right now. So it's just kind of strange. I don't know how long the game is. But yeah, it's taken its time. It's taken its time. So observer, if you're into that sort of stuff, like it's it's it's Blade Runner as shit, like because you have the guy, the main Android from Blade Runner. We need to we need to like there needs to be like a humble bundle or like a collection of all of the games and you just call it like the Verber collection. Yeah. So I'm going to continue playing that and see where that goes. But yeah, that was that was me in my rush of games. Cool. Um, Pat, why don't you tell us about Hero Academia aka
Starting point is 00:32:26 Boku no Hero aka Hero Aka. Okay. Well, really? That last one? They're competing with each other. All right. Has anybody in this room besides me watched it? I plan to start very soon. It's been on the back. It's been on the waist. All right. Because I haven't gone to a calm summer without everyone just going this this is this is saving anime. All right. I have a formula for you for Hero Academia. You ready? Neruto minus ninjas. Gotcha. Plus superheroes heroes. Yep. Yep. Plus All Star Superman. Yep. And and cape and tights heroes filtered through Japanese. Yeah, but but like the the primary focus of that is all might who is the big big but it's it's not it's not like he's a Superman analog. He's just he's literally yeah Superman
Starting point is 00:33:26 like he even has like the colors. Yeah costume. Um, uh, it's it's just a good Naruto with no bullshit in it but with heroes and sentences and a really, really astonishingly likable main cast. Yeah, I they even come out and call it like Hero Academia. So yeah, you know exactly what you're getting into the one that the one that crossed the line for me from like wink and a smile to like full on like no, we're doing it is when all night shows up in his red, white and blue costume and somebody goes, man, that's one of those old Silver Age costumes. And I go. Now here's the other thing. One Punch Man recently topped tackled similar topics. You did it. I don't know. Yes, it did. No, I know. I'm asking you. Yeah, one punch one punch man is I watched one punch man,
Starting point is 00:34:18 but I don't know if you're talking about the new manga or no, no, I'm talking about the fact that it's it's also about heroes. Yes. And specifically superheroes. You know, this this one is like one punch man is like a fucking weird nihilist exercise of strength or whatever the fuck. This is this is straight up just Naruto with heroes. Got it. But it's it's really good with a fun art style. Very fun. It's super colorful, but not in the sad way that Naruto was where he has to be bright orange. Yeah. No, something I really liked about bleach even going back then was like some of those character designs were really not anime looking characters. So there's some really like weird almost like Cartoon Network gas designs that would show up from time to time. And yeah,
Starting point is 00:35:01 as some of the faces and hair and weird expressions I see from moments of hero academia look like not anime and it looks pretty fun. And the Sasuke equivalent in this is a hell of a lot more likable than Sasuke. Nope, which is easy. Then he's not a Sasuke equivalent. He's just a stupid asshole. Like, you know, the stupid asshole character that I don't know anybody like that. Yeah, I know the loud stupid asshole character that just yells and talks about murder. Yeah, that's the actual rival character. I like the hand gesture. But then why do you why is he not as annoying as Sasuke? Because he's entertaining and a single minded desire to murder people. There you go. He's supposed to be a good guy. There you go. I don't really have any detailed thoughts on it
Starting point is 00:35:44 because it's just good. Yeah, that's fine. That's good enough. In fact, that's probably the best thing you can say. Everything is just an excuse to get to one of three things. The next training montage, the next big super powered fight scene or the next hero moment, which the game and the game the show at least just it just drowns it's it's just like a wash in its own smell of its own hero moments because the music they pick for those is stellar and everyone gets the perfect pose and the perfect superhero shot. If it hasn't been if it hasn't become obvious over the years we've known each other, I feel like I should I guess state that the best sell to me is always Naruto plus or minus something else. Yeah, that's why I started it that way. Good job. Good job. Is always
Starting point is 00:36:35 I don't have got much to say about this besides it's fucking great. Watch it. It's it's that's like I that I love the simplicity of there's nothing to say here. There is no thing about this. It's like, Oh man, Hero Academia is breaking the mold. Right. No, it lives in the mold. Yeah, it loves the mold. It's like girl in the gun in that way. Like it's just like, no, put me in that old mold. I live in that. Yeah, it's not it's not an undertale recommendation. No, it's just a this is a straight shooter. There's no get through this part or watch for three like the biggest one of the best parts of the whole show is like in the second episode. It's fucking great. Aside from here. Let me try a little witch academia. Yeah, I thought those I thought those were the same
Starting point is 00:37:18 show. I thought they were two. That's a different show. It's a completely different show made by a completely different company. It is. Yeah. But I thought so I saw a little witch academia, which I don't really have any desire to watch. And then I never ever saw hero academia. And all I heard was people said, Oh, you should check out your academia. I'm like, I don't want to watch that little show. Yeah, I do. But and that's a lot. So you a word like academia is all it takes to yeah, it's the same title. And it's three words, basically. Yeah, it's the same title. I thought they were spin offs of each other. Yeah, me too. Yeah. No, no, let's get another anime with full metal in the start of it. Yeah. Oh man, that's I can think of two right now. Of course, because
Starting point is 00:38:02 Anakin Alchemist. Yeah. Let's see if we can get there's one more. There's one more. It's the creator of Kenshin made full metal guy and it was just a huge rip off of full metal alchemist. What was it was? Let me I'll look it up. Is the word actually full metal? I think so. Come on. Well, no, but I'm little which is trigger doing their thing. So I mean, you know, there's a little bit more pedigree to that one. Man, that part like man, that part when all my punch that guy, I was like, man, he punched that I really don't like Superman at all. Got it. I didn't know this about you. Yeah. Well, so every if you don't understand why I don't like Superman and you've seen both my hero academia, all might is everything that I like about Superman
Starting point is 00:38:50 and and he is missing all the things that I don't like about him. Okay, like the like the number one thing is that all might uses his position as like near deity Superman to rid the world of all conflict like that done because like does all might exist some like the idea that metropolis has crime is absurd. Right. So all might move to a city. No crime done. Keystone city. He's so yeah, exactly. Yeah. That's my that that's my my favorite. That's my peak. I have to agree with you because especially because it's so perfectly represented in just like two pages. It's just like that's all you need to explain it. The bed ever happens. Aside from that, I heard that you beat persona five. So I got off my ass and beat persona five. Did you? I did. Good.
Starting point is 00:39:42 I'm glad to hear that. We will leave that till later. Yeah, it would have been awkward if you didn't ordinarily awkward. So we're gonna leave that to a spoiler cast at the end of the episode. But kudos on not having your you know, because that would have led to it's okay. It's not bad. It's not bad. Yeah, let's we'll get to that later, I guess. It's pretty good. And that's pretty much it for me. Although I played sonic one recently. I want to build up my sonic to get back to mania. Oh, you didn't. You didn't go straight to mania. No, it's been a long, long, long time since I saw you're on a spiritual journey. I play it's been a long, long time since I played the older
Starting point is 00:40:24 ones. So I beat sonic one soon. I'm gonna beat sonic and knuckles. Okay. And then you're gonna play freedom planet. No, I don't care about freedom planet. I don't like Gunstar heroes. What do you want from me? It's more sonic. It's more sonic than it's more sonic than Gunstar heroes. But if you saw it and you didn't like what you saw, then sorry. Sorry, breaking news that that manga that manga is called the alchemical weapon. And it's and the character design is is Edward Elric or brown hair and he can make weapons out of nothing. Right. So that's that's it. The fuck was I talking about? You're talking about sonic sonic. Oh yeah. Sonic one is terrible. Like it's sonic one is is age the poorest. Oh, it's bad. Yeah, it's not a fond memories
Starting point is 00:41:12 like the jump from me to the jump from one to two is the biggest and like brightest fucking low. It's crazy because like most of your deaths are going to be from one of two things, one of which is a bug that got fixed later, which is spikes will always damage you even through your own invincibility frames. So if you fall on spikes, you lose your rings and then you bounce on the spikes again and even though you're invincible, it kills you instantly. And almost all the other ones are getting crushed or falling outside of the level due to weird geometry. Really? Are we are we seriously getting impressions on sonic one? Yeah, you're getting old impressions. Okay, you know what we should do? Play the GBA port of Sonic the Hedgehog, which is such a trash fire, it's comparable to
Starting point is 00:41:58 Mortal Kombat Advance, where they just for some reason the port just someone deleted everything and just still ported it. It's absolutely fucking awful. Okay. But yes, I'm excited to get to Sonic Mania event. Right. Well, I look forward to your hot take on Sonic three and knuckles. You don't play Sonic three by itself. Well, no, it's like think about it this way. I've been waiting. God, Sonic knuckles came out and what like fucking 94 93 94. Okay, I've been waiting 23 years for another good Sonic 2D Sonic game. There's Sonic four. I'm going to make sure that I have all the context I need to actually appreciate. Yeah, nothing is funnier and that that one of those first Sonic Mania trailers where they go through the history of Sonic and they just skip Sonic
Starting point is 00:42:48 3D Blast as well. That's fine because that wasn't made by I don't I don't think it was made by Sonic team was that traveler's tales is also just terrible. That's fine to pretend rush never existed. That's not mainline rush, but it's a really good game. No, the whole thing is Sonic Mania is that we're going to take stuff from these. No, no, I'm saying that in relation to you've been waiting for a 2D Sonic game. I'm like, Rush was great. Rush one is great. Rush two is not great. Hold on. Let me let me be a fucking up my own ass Sonic hipster for a second. Rush is a good game. It's not that great of a Sonic game. Yeah, what? Yeah, you you just became what you hate. Yeah. Did I? You just wait. You just hate specific. You just became a melee fan. No, I didn't. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:43:43 you're almost you almost got your CRT in hand right now. It's funny that you mentioned that because when I play and when I'm playing the old Sonic games and doing it through the Sonic mega collection, I'm sorry, the the fucking what's the say gauges not say gauges. I know I know what you mean. I know what's the stupid name of the Genesis, the Mega Drive collection. And I'm using the fake CRT and scanline modes because because on Xbox one, the just the Sonic collection was was like a backwards compatibility up to Xbox one. So that's what I think of in my head. But yeah, if you want everything else, then the Mega Drive turn on the mom yelling at you in the background filter. No, okay. That's a good one. If you were serious, I want to get to it like
Starting point is 00:44:28 Rush has some weird stuff to the jumping. I don't like the rush mechanic. I know you in the jumping. I know we all heard you in the jumping. But I also don't like the rush mechanic. And I don't think the vertical screen space like works well with Sonic. I think it does just because I find the left to right momentum in Sonic games a hell of a lot more interesting than the up and down. I think that's wrong. I think when you dip down into the bottom screen and zip back up really quickly, it didn't say that it was better. I said, I like it better. Yeah, he's allowed about what I like. Yeah, you are. Yeah, I am. You should know that better than anyone else says the person who's called most people's opinions wrong historically in the past.
Starting point is 00:45:09 That's different. That's different. Hey, they're wrong. Hey, get your GameCube controller out of my face. Yeah. Are you done? Should have said Saturn. No, because he's doing because we're going with Melee. I'm going with Melee. Oh, I would never lord a GameCube controller over anyone. Well, you are. Technically. You've become everything you've hated. That you. Is that you? That's pretty much it. Cool. Sonic 2 is so fucking good. I fucking agree. Sonic 2 is such a good fucking game. It's everyone shut up. The music is so good. People have told me the best version you can possibly play as Sonic 2 is the iPad version with a controller hooked into it. Really? Why is that? I don't know the technical reasons,
Starting point is 00:45:57 perhaps, but I do have the iPad version of Sonic 2 and I do have a controller and when you do play it like it's just the huge clarity of the screen on iPad. There's some features. I don't know the nitty gritty of it. Some people like this is the most feature packed version of Sonic 2. I don't know why, though. I should mention something to anybody that actually does want to play Sonic 3 and Knuckles again. That game has had a long history of bad releases in various formats. The PC version in the Sega Mega Drive collection, it finally emulates it properly where you get the level select because Sonic 3 and Knuckles has a built in level select as part of the save screen and almost every other like 360 or PS3 port of that game just gives you save states.
Starting point is 00:46:44 Question, has anyone actually played Chaotix? No. No. I neither have I. I want to say for a couple seconds, but no. I can't place what happens. And when I saw Chaotix in the back of magazines, I got hyped to shit. I was like, look at that cool crocodile. Crocodile. He's so fucking cool. And I got hyped looking at that game and my friend had a Genesis. I was like, get it. Not Genesis. It was on 32X, yeah? So I was like, yeah, I think he had a 32X and I remember screaming at some friend of mine, get it. And I never got to play it. I never did. I remember Sonic 2. We played it somewhere. Someone's house and their house had a big surround sound set up. Like 2.0. Yeah, it was like a big deal back then. But the main
Starting point is 00:47:35 thing is that it wasn't even like, yeah, it wasn't surround sound, but it was just like the bass was just huge. The bass is bumping. Yeah. So I remember all the Sonic songs. When I heard them, I think more possibly for the first time, they were way more bassy. And the wow of getting hit on a spring or like getting the force field was so much louder, but sound was fucking new. Oh, but if you're drowning underwater, that must have been the most horrifying experience. But just even like in the Green Hill Zone stuff, I just remember the bass coming in so much louder than the main instruments. I forget. I don't know who it is, but whoever. Well, I know it is for Sonic 3 Knuckles. It's Michael Jackson and his guys. But for 2.0 as well,
Starting point is 00:48:18 like the music in those games is actually fucking felt like it was designed around the Genesis's horrible, horrible sound chip. It's that in Streets of Rage. Because there's only one good noise that fucking chip makes in its bass. It's the only strong noise it can make. There's a shit load of bass in that stuff. Art through adversity. God bless. Sonic 2. God bless Sonic 2. But like when it comes to Genesis music and stuff, God bless Streets of Rage. God bless Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. God bless the God damn it. The guy, the composed genius Genesis composer X-Men 2 that made the time tracks like OST and a couple of their things. There's this guy that, there's this guy that. A modern guy. Guy that's doing stuff for me. Tim Follin. Tim Follin.
Starting point is 00:49:11 Okay. Tim Follin. He is a music genius. Anyway, that's you. That's pretty much it for me, man. Okay. Well, Persona was like my whole weekend. So. That's just long, huh? Yeah. Give me a number. 9916. What was your? You way under did that comparatively. Well, what did you do? Like 137, geez. All right. I probably finished at a higher level than you did too. What level were you at? Did you grind out death? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So what am I not going to grind out? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He fucking kills himself. How many times? I was level 95. Okay. Yeah. All right. Sure. I don't know how many times. Yeah. There must have been conversations that you didn't have because I had conversations with as many people that I wanted to. Oh, you talked to,
Starting point is 00:50:02 you get the little side quests on every minor character, right? I like doing that. Okay. So yeah. This time around, I didn't do it as exhaustively, but I still like doing that. There's less. That's not true. Oh, there's more. There's a thousand percent more. So will I? Yes. Alien Covenant. What'd you think? Well, let's talk about. Are we doing this now? Let's talk about what I did watch. Trying to trap him. I did watch. I mean, they ask him that every week until someone's fucking because I want to give out about the thing, but I need another person. Is that your movie discussion based Mac and me? Yeah. I want to talk about Alien Covenant. I want to talk about it. I'll fucking, I'll read a spoiler thing. No, watch a movie. No,
Starting point is 00:50:43 you don't get, no one gets off. You got to watch it. Yeah. Yeah. What are you going to do about it? Nothing. I'm going to keep asking every podcast so you're annoyed enough. That's marginally annoying. That's the level I want to be at. So why did you watch Alien Covenant? Fucking put me in a trap room. What's going on? Trapper. Hey, trap room. Hey, if you watch it, I don't have to watch it. Yeah. So yeah, that works. Yeah. Yeah. No one escapes. The, I always remember that line in Tomb Raider, like the new one, when the beginning where the guy like, you see the guy get shot and he comes on and goes, no one escapes. Yeah. Because we
Starting point is 00:51:32 had to test that part. Right. Because there was a death there. Anyway, I watched the second episodes of American Gods and I still have no idea what the fuck's going on. And that feels like it's going to continue being the case. Keep going though. And they definitely are giving you slightly more context, but they're still choosing to do things in the weirdest way possible. And I don't know if I appreciate it so far. Is American Gods an adaptation? Yes, of a book. Yes, of a book. Have you read that book? No. And I heard, and it seems that reading the book makes all the difference in the world between how much you get it and how much you like it. There is, people update us, there is a comic book,
Starting point is 00:52:07 actually. That is, that's fairly new, I believe. Yeah, I based on it. Well, it's coming, it's time. I'm not sure if it's based on the show. I think it's time to do with the show coming out. Maybe. I don't know. But yeah, you know what I mean? This is one of those weird ones where people who read the book are raving about it. And right now I need, I need some more. I need you to do me a favor. Once you finish watching American Gods, I need you to watch season three of Twin Peaks only. And tell me, and tell me which one is more interesting. Although that's based on a show. Yeah, that's, yeah, it's a little unfair. I cannot imagine anything more confusing than jumping into that third season.
Starting point is 00:52:49 Why would anyone jump into the third season? Because it's the new hot. I will, I will, I can describe an experience that is not unlike that level. Let's hear it. What's your experience? I went to an arcade and I played a lot of games and some of those games included School of Ragnarok, which I've never heard of. We've talked about it on the podcast. It's, it's Square Enix 3D look in game, uh, camera behind you. You play as a student and you pick your stands and then you and your stand go to battle with another kid in their stand. And you kind of have a little character customizer right there on the arcade machine. And it's the weirdest button layout you have ever seen. And I really want to find a picture of this to do it justice because I'm
Starting point is 00:53:32 trying to find it right now. Um, you have never like, like Bariqi one looks fucking normal compared to the School of Ragnarok button layout. Yeah, that's, was that an arcade I went to, but I didn't touch it. I was like, what the hell is this? Uh, so Bariqi one had like the stick was how you attacked and the buttons were how you moved type thing. And, uh, what you, wow, did you find a picture of it? Oh yeah, I did. Okay. What the fuck is that? If there's, if there's a way I can show this to Matt, or you can pass it over, I'll just pass my phone over there. That what the fuck is that? Yeah, yeah. That's what I saw. So at the arcade I went to, there's a big sticker on this thing that says the most popular arcade game in Japan. I don't know if that's true. That seems like a lie.
Starting point is 00:54:21 That's that doesn't seem like a truth at all. Why is it modeled after a fucking Xbox original controller with a black and a white button and another white button? It is. There's, there's no worry about that. It is a, but it's trying so hard to be like an arrow pointing to something and an original. And I feel like they just went over the top with their attempts at like, you've never played a game like this before. Blast processing, giant glowing Pachinko buttons. Well, what I could like, so my first thought here is there's a big school of Ragnarok is what I'm talking about. It is clearly, it is clearly meant to follow the curve of your right hand so you can have all five fingers on five buttons. Yeah. And then you move your index, you move your
Starting point is 00:55:06 guess what? That doesn't work. It doesn't, it's not natural. So the shape of the buttons is there are six buttons in total and they're forming a, um, an arrow shape, right? So pointing to the top left. It's almost like a flock of geese. Yeah. Flying or like a triangle with no bottom. Flying towards flying towards your 11 o'clock that and it is weird because they're not like three and three as much as it's four and then two going down. And then there's a fifth, sorry, a seventh black button that's to forbidden button. That's to the seven o'clock of the southmost button. And then way over on the right, you've got two giant glowing Pachinko buttons that you also have to press from time to time. And movement in this game and attacking and such
Starting point is 00:55:56 is based on combination. That's a nine button game, essentially. It's fucking garbage, dude. The game sucks because of all those buttons. Guess what? One of them is an attack button. What are the others? Like charge and jump and block. That's just because you're getting in on a basic level. Once you get all shot, once you start playing a fucking top tier pro level, all that shit. Nine buttons in a 3D like fighter type game. And only one is an attack thing where you have like a few buttons and doing combinations with the joystick would know because it's all in these because it's 3D. So you're running around on a 3D plane with that stick movement options. It's a game that was designed for consoles. Also, it's like the
Starting point is 00:56:42 poke and field mode switch system where when you get in close, it switches to like 2D side by side and then you run out and it goes back to 3D field view. So you can't really have like quarter circles or any sorts of motions. Okay. You have to press all of the buttons to unlock your sort of special water. I don't want to press all of them. And I'm looking at my head, trying to figure out the shape I have to make. I legitimately, like if you have to hit all of all what six of those, I don't think my tiny bitch hand could actually hit all of them. I basically, I had to turn, I did like a karate chop on one side and then press the two bottom buttons. It's fucking Street Fighter 1 with the pressure pads. What a great game. So again,
Starting point is 00:57:26 this is School of Ragnarok and here's the thing is like it looks like you have all these options and customization and it looks like there's a lot going on. This was very, of course, I was trying to like fight through a super Japanese everything. But when you get down to it, the game loads up and like I said, you have one slash slash slash button, one projectile shot button and one jump in a block and then a two that didn't seem to do things. And it was just the most basic combat for a game that should have a million tons of options in this regard. And then you hit all the buttons and then the anime music starts playing and then your stand goes through a portal and fuses onto you and you become like you together or you fight.
Starting point is 00:58:07 Are the designs cool? The designs are anime, you know, some of them, some are cool, some are not. But like some, but it's because they're spreading it out. So they're making it so that there's one design you would find cool. Okay. But there's another design that is for someone else. I see. And you're not going to, exactly. And then there's your big demon thing that's for you. And then there's your boy who got sky. I want to be able to walk into a goddamn Japanese arcade and bet money on salty bed. When is that going to happen? Oh man. That needs to be in an arcade machine. Well, I get that horse racing shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Electbite needs to get their cut first. Dude, that's what I will have in my
Starting point is 00:58:45 barrel open up one day. Salty bedding. No fucking sports. The most copywriting, annihilating sport bedding ever. Yeah. No, you, you, it's fun dollars you bet. And the, okay, no, what you do is when you bet tiny metal balls on the, the salty bed thing. And then you just happen to own the convenience store next door that for some reason trades you money or items for the tiny metal balls. And when you open it up, you call it a salt book. Right. Let me take a look at the salt book. Salt book. Like that is a salt book over that way. Oh man. It's like a sports book, but it's not. Um, anyway, so. And you can automate the process. If someone can't pay their, their, their tiny little metal ball bed on time, there's a machine that they put their legs into that
Starting point is 00:59:37 breaks it for. Oh, you have to put your leg in. You have to put it in. It's up to you. It's self-serve. So anyway, yeah, that game was boring and disappointing in that sucked. I also learned that, uh, what I thought was originally harmless was, was not. So it turns out that, you know, how, and every time you play on a Japanese arcade machine, they ask you for your Nessica card. No. Okay. So there's Japanese arcade machines and they have Nessica. It's like a little card club that you belong to that has your ID and it tracks your scores and stats and tells you where people are playing and so on. This thing originally, I thought it was just like the initial D machine or Wangan midnight machine stat tracker that you keep in your wallet and it's fucking becoming this
Starting point is 01:00:22 cancerous thing where games, Japanese arcade games are like, you can't play these modes if you don't have a card. It's like a DLC card almost. And the fucking worst was playing some, uh, gunslinger Stratos 2 and you boot it up and you have four fucking linked machines and it's like you can't play multiplayer unless you have this Nessica card with the machines. All you can do when you put the money in is play training mode or do a single or a single or a single. That's not an arcade mode. It's a single mission. That's what it was. And it's a complete fucking waste of everyone's time and money. I don't know if it made it. I don't remember. It sucks, dude. But in my, like, Pat vs. Japan video, I couldn't figure out how to actually play gunslinger Stratos with people
Starting point is 01:01:16 or anything. And it kept showing me this fucking card message. That must have been it. It's just like I could do the training mode over and over and over for a token, but I was not allowed to play gunslinger Stratos. It's this fucking racket that they have that like multiple arcade game companies in Japan have all agreed to like, you know, collude on. And it's just you have to go buy this fucking card. You need this card. And if you walk into an arcade and put the money in to pay the game, that's not enough anymore. No, you have to pay the money to play the game and be a member with your Nessica card. Also, we would appreciate a urine sample. It's fucking crazy, man. You know, and the game itself, like those are not cheap games, like the big expensive ones, especially
Starting point is 01:01:56 guncon games like gunslinger. You're not like, you know, you're spending quite a bit to pop one to get one game going, I guess our equivalent of two bucks, you know. So it's just and then you go from machine to machine and you see everything that was made like post maybe 2011 all have this like mandatory fucking system or at the very least like a really aggressive push on it where it's like wait these 30 seconds to put your card down. And if you don't have your card, you got to just wait for that timer. Oh man. And I'm like, are you serious? There's no skipping here. It's a no, use your card now to simply not be told that you have to sit and watch this like add basically. Yeah. Put your card down to skip this message. Oh, that's good. Fucking ridiculous. And I'm like,
Starting point is 01:02:46 of course, like it's like in Japan where they'd have, you know, like the like these kinds of like strong arm fucking like a Yakuza tactics almost. I can totally see a bunch of businesses and companies like getting together and deciding because remember this is how we squeeze the extra box out of the arcade. So different there than here where it's like they expect people to do this type of stuff. It's because those people are there all day. Yeah, sure. They're they're in the game center like for hours and hours. It's like getting getting we just want to play a quick game or two. Yeah, no, it's like you need to turn your whale into a like a turbo whale. You gotta get a megalodon. You have it's not enough, you know, we need to kaiju this person. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:27 You know, and it just it sucks because, you know, anytime someone here, especially like tries to import a machine, they run into what the fuck you're going to do. Good job. You have the machine. Great. We can't actually play it now. You know, um, anyway, so why you gotta do that? Fuck the Nesaka system. And hopefully the gogi system will destroy it. I believe my bets are on gogi always been always been on gogi. Yeah. The other thing I did was I played the Sengoku Basara X fighter, which is the old one. Yeah, it's pretty dated at this point. But um, you ever played it before? No, actually, I completely never. What's your personal level of adoration for Sengoku Basara? I have no feelings about it. Really? All I know is that
Starting point is 01:04:17 it's an era that's been tired. As far as coverage goes. Yeah, we've done it and done it and done it again and the romance of the three kingdoms and everything about. It's a tale is all this time really. No, but Naga is like the most exhausted story. My favorite thing about a fucking Sengoku Basara has nothing to do with the actual game. It's how it was used as a sick burn during an interview with the head of Omega Force when somebody asked him, Hey, do you think Tokidin's ripping off Monster Hunter? Oh, yeah. He's like, Do you think Capcom thought about that when they made Sengoku Basara, Devil Kings and Dynasty Warriors? It's like, Oh, I mean, we're allowed. It's like it's based on the same shit. So we're allowed to do it too. Yeah, totally. Right. You
Starting point is 01:05:02 can't. There's no copyright on hunting monsters. No, why would there be so anyway? Um, yeah, it, you know, it's all right. It's it's kind of a middle of the road guest fighter. Um, that's like the one ArcSys this game and never played, you know, like I want to, isn't it Capcom? You know, ArcSys. No, the fighter, I always thought that's a good published by Capcom. ArcSys developed it. And that's I because I remember this because the lead up to it was, Oh my God, they're doing it because it was just an ArcSys cross Capcom. And everyone was losing their shit because they thought this was going to be Capcom versus Sammy, Sammy versus Capcom. And then it just turned out to be Sengoku Bizarre. And there was like this wave of some people
Starting point is 01:05:47 that are like, yeah, but most of it was like, bro, developed by ArcSys and published by Capcom. Yeah, that's that's where like doesn't how do you feel about that? I mean, that's like the fact that that was going to happen. That's an underwhelming use of those two studios coming together. And it'll never happen again. Yeah, now we're too good. Yeah. No, no. Well, now that like the lines have been drawn, you know, like the fucking the Montague's and the Capulets are blood now. And you know, I like maybe there's a maybe there's a better analogy for like, like, they used to be on the same side. And now it's like the fucking blood is connected. But now we're tight. They're coming for that hyper money. They're coming for that Marvel
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Starting point is 01:11:06 in a few. All right. That was a good shave. That was a good shave. Now, we may look exactly the same, but you don't know what part we shaved. Yeah, exactly. Let's get into the news, shall we? You can just like cut them off. You could. Whatever you want. But he seems to be content to let me do my little beat beats. Yeah, I don't mind it. I don't mind it's come to be a little bit endearing. Yeah, you should just do better. But down bump bump bump. Yeah, that's better. Everyone can enjoy that. Yeah, some Dragon Master. That's the noise that's going to play. That's the noise that's going to play when you finally find that last Funko Pop. Since you haven't, you're, uh, you're holding on to a lot of shit. It seems
Starting point is 01:12:01 you're literally and figuratively. Yeah. Not today. I'm not trust me. I had something bad a few days ago. There's your out. Yeah. Yeah. You got to let it go sometimes. It's like sinuses. I just wish there wasn't so much acid. Yeah, drinking acid is weird. What's the story? What's the story? Ruiner gets a release date. Finally. We were just talking about these ur games. Yeah. Yeah. September. 26th. 26th. So, um, you know, we've been looking forward to this. It's one of my favorite shirts. One slight problem with Ruiner is that every trailer they show is the exact same trailer over and over with just different, slightly different bits of gameplay. But it's just the same voice over, same visuals of cool Ruiner guy just standing there in the
Starting point is 01:12:54 elevator. Like I've seen three trailers. They're all the same. I don't know. There's not much of an, not much of a complaint. It's just kind of like, yeah, I was going to, you were good with the first trailer. Yeah, good. I guess the idea is just if they somehow, if they missed you around the second or third time, maybe they'll catch you the fourth time. Maybe they'll catch you on the go, go round. Man, Ruiner looks so goddamn cool. There's nothing else to say. Ruiner looks really cool. It's coming out on September 26th. That's the announced release date. We've been waiting for it. Here it is. You can ruin stuff in that game. Your helmet has a screen on it. It's like you're a Daft Punk. You're like a Daft Punk. That should have been the subtitle.
Starting point is 01:13:34 Do you think they'll be DLC for Craft Punk? No. Craft Dunk. Craft Dunk. And just admit Dunk, you have to craft. Now I just want an Eric Andre game. And it's, and it's, and it's an Eric Andre game is a Katamari game, but instead of rolling people up, you annoy them. Oh, sorry. I didn't know this. Ruiner is developed by Raycon, a small Polish team. Jeez, Poland just belting them out. Well, ever since the Witcher, everybody's taken their eye on Poland. Exactly, by former Dead Island and Witcher developers. The Witcher team gives more than they are not part of it. Well, the thing is about, the thing is about like, CD Projekt is like over the course of development for Witcher 3, they became super gigantic.
Starting point is 01:14:20 CD Projekt, a bunch of developers from them, didn't they go off and become Flying Wild Hog? Maybe. And then Flying Wild Hog went off to become another first person. It's like people can fly. Like all of this is all that the Poland network of fucking video game developers is crazy. I've never seen anything like it. It's probably super cheap. Poland has a lot of innate advantages to game development that like many other countries don't have. The number one of which is you don't have to really pay your employees all that much money. And also the cost of living in Poland is fat. Exactly. And there's also nothing to do there because I make video games. Possibly drink. Possibly drink. And play Ruiner. Play Ruiner,
Starting point is 01:15:11 September. Poland used to broadcast goddamn fucking video games out over the radio. Yeah, yeah, you have to use your imagination. No, you would record the noise with your tapes and you could play it. And I think an Amiga or a Calico. Wow. Okay. Because IP law didn't exist. Calico. So also announced because some dates popped up for things this week is Jurassic World Evolution. Which was the out of nowhere trailer. Let me let me tell you, I've never been more disappointed by anything in my life. I don't know about that. Where the start of this trailer, I was like, Jurassic World. Okay, cool. Cool. Did you not know? Did you not click on it knowing video games were involved in? No, absolutely video games. But I'm like, Oh, you got to be a
Starting point is 01:15:58 Tyrannosaurus. You get to it tonight. Oh, it's an RTS, which it's a it's a building game, which we already had with operation. It's the exact same game, Operation Genesis on the PS2 Xbox is the exact same game. So I'm just disappointed that it's just another one of those when they're a was already one of the Jurassic Park license and be there's lots of these games, they're fun, but there's already lots of them. I want to control a Tyrannosaurus. What would the third faction in this be there? I know there's no sorry, it's not an RTS. It's roller coaster tycoon roller coaster. It's Jurassic Tycoon. It's not an RTS. Oh, that I just meant it's an RTS overhead style thing. So you're building your own Jurassic World. If you like these
Starting point is 01:16:44 types of games, like good on you, but like, I don't know, I was really hoping for an action fun thing. I would just rather play Civ 6 than this. I don't know what to say. I mean, we've had both. So yeah, we haven't had an action thing a long time. I should play Civ 6. I want to control a dinosaur. I'm fucking pissed off about Civ 6. I find it weird. I find it weird that that trailer for Jurassic World evolution is doing like a pre rendered thing that is like it's emulating a tycoon camera. Yeah. And it's like you're we're showing off the brush clearing into the super cool looking shiny way that like I guess it's just to just sell the idea. Yeah, whatever. I just weird that we're still doing that. CG stand ins for gameplay will never go away. It's like that.
Starting point is 01:17:38 Like the camera is now going behind the 3D model that looks way too good. Let me ask you, Willie, which do you prefer? Do you prefer that, which is many games do a lot of shooters do it, right? The CG video that's like CG, but it's like fake or bullshot. Or do you prefer that? That's your classic bullshot. That's the Killzone 2 bullshot, right? Or do you prefer something like Bioshock Infinite's original demo in which it is all technically in game assets, but it is so highly scripted and nothing in that now that actually appears in the now that's the worst because that's I think that's way worse. I prefer infinite one drives me absolutely crazy. I prefer gameplay in engine over everything. Okay, but what if that gameplay in engine is
Starting point is 01:18:22 real? At least the visuals are close to what you expect. Yeah, okay. Because the events might not play out the same way. But what if nothing plays out the same way? Because here's the problem is the having the visuals of that of that like Bioshock thing at least gives you some information about what the game is going to look like, where and the quality of the models and faces and whatever versus that CG trailer for Jurassic World Evolution where there's no information at all besides an announcement. But that CG trailer is actually more on point than a lot of I think that was I was going to say this is how I quantify that I'd rather have one big massive lie than millions of many lies that that's closer to what I expect because I'm going to be
Starting point is 01:19:09 disappointed a million times over the course of a long period. I guess it's just based on your expectations. Well, the one that always get the one that the the reason it sticks with me the Bioshock Infinite one particular compared to say that which is just you know pre-rendered CG RTS stuff or sorry building stuff is that there are a bunch of mechanics shown in that Bioshock one that don't exist. Right. But if you showed off fucking Witcher 3 and there was a mechanic where you could fucking grind rails so with a skateboard and then that wasn't in the game that'd be lame. If you're like that we like we've did famously like disgust us in the end where I was like I wasn't as annoyed as the Bioshock thing as you guys were. So that's an example that I already
Starting point is 01:19:50 can come in saying like no I'd much I prefer that because even though those events didn't occur in the same way and the scripted of and the way things played out with the fight when it goes into the bar and the Ravens and stuff is not the same. Again, I know I'm looking in engine and that to me is worth more than nothing. If I just see a rendered FMV I get nothing out of that and here I get atmosphere and tone and here yeah but you don't get to see in-game like visuals right. We'll see it eventually. And so at the very least I'm like even if the thing the toys are not moving in the way they're going to in the end the assets and the world that I see in this in engine is still something I prefer to see. So you would prefer an in-engine complete lie of something
Starting point is 01:20:35 that's not in the game at all like not not a single part of this in the game compared to a CG version of something that shows off things that are all actually in the game. Well no because that's extreme. Oh but that's what we're talking about. That's well okay the aliens. If the Bioshock thing was not even remotely in like the sky and they weren't even remotely dealing with the same people and the and and it wasn't even remotely first person but it was an in-engine I wouldn't prefer that. Look look. But I mean what I'm saying is if it is not rep if it's like if it's representative and it's close enough to not be super far away like. But it's not and it isn't. Okay well to me the different. You keep saying you keep saying Bioshock the actual example is
Starting point is 01:21:19 Aliens Colonial Marines where they presented a demo as this was what the game will be. And it was it was nothing. Okay. It was all lies but it was a functional gameplay demo and that resulted. And it was an engine. That result it isn't it wasn't an engine. That result in so many people getting angry that they sued Gearbox or sued Sega or whatever it was. When you get to that line of we're presenting this and it's an engine that will upset people more a hundred percent of the time more than just a CG trailer. Actually you know what I thought of something. The Bioshock thing one is is nebulous and gray. If you want to see a lot smarter person talk about this. A bunny hop did a really good expose on the bullshot. Yeah. And it's legal standing. And one of the things
Starting point is 01:22:08 that he came away with is that bullshots can't be illegal because it is assumed that people know better than to trust advertisements. Is a movie trailer allowed to show you everything that nothing from a movie. I mean it drives me absolutely crazy when I think that has trailers that aren't in the film. Yeah. Well I mean Ted the Ted talk from from Prometheus was had nothing to do with Prometheus. Yeah. So that happens beat that man with a stick. But I guess all I'm trying to say is like you know barring extreme ridiculous examples to me. Yeah. I prefer to see a thing that says this is footage of a work in progress or not representative of actual you know events and game versus a message at the bottom that says pre-rendered footage. What about what about
Starting point is 01:22:57 a game in which the trailer shows all real gameplay and nothing about it is a lie except maybe the tone due to choice of music. That's weird. What about that. How do you feel about that. What if it's Mad World. What if it happens to be tears for fears playing. No I'm talking about fishing. Oh well. Yeah. Come on. Let's do this. Well I have nothing but love in my heart for that. See I see that sounds ridiculous. I made it go. But then maybe just maybe if you put the ingredients together it all works out. Fishing planet. Now that's an upcoming fishing game for the PS4 and this one requires sound so I'm going to play this trailer so that Matt can see it. Yeah I'm not. If you're if you're listening at home please go find the fishing planet trailer
Starting point is 01:23:51 for PS4 the first fishing planet gameplay trailer. Game engine footage. Oh man we got a slow motion shot of a goddamn landscape and a fishing rod. A gorgeous lake. And it's like Gears of War music. Listen to that shit. That is engine revving. Yes it is. That's the demsy roll getting ready to start. Oh my god look at that water. That water is amazing. It's nothing's happening on the screen it's just fishing planet. The ultimate fishing simulator. Go find this trailer it's the best. 12 scenic waterways. Rotate time of day seasons. Look at that shit. It's lily pads. Oh fuck. Oh he's going to tug on the fishing pole. There's 70 types of deadly fish. How many thousands of tackle combinations. I can't believe it. I can't believe it. Oh shit. And it's the game
Starting point is 01:24:51 feels so boring. Complex fish AI system. This fish wants to eat it but not that other fish. Skoolgee. Is it going to go for it? The tension of battle. The calm before the storm. Look at this. Loot boxes. But rock. Yeah reel it in. He's reeling in the fish you guys. She lobs a sexy woman. This fish is fighting back though. Oh my god. Oh the muddy shot. Oh my god it crested the water. Yeah he caught that bass. And the character. Wait wait wait. That picture with that bass is on my desk because I'm a motherfucking CEO. Fishing planet. It has the Ozarks thing above it. It's the ultimate fishing experience. You didn't know it but you were playing as a boss. So I'm going to say I'm a little disappointed with that trailer because I imagine like an over the top
Starting point is 01:25:51 like killer ink stink announced. Did you expect one of those fish farming simulator trailers with the fucking dead mouse and shit in it? Yeah or something like that. That was still pretty good though. You thought you were just a humble sports fisherman. Turns out you were already on top of the world. So like I have this mini dream where I want to see a trailer like that and it's close to it but at us remember that first far away shot where it showed like just an empty kind of lake behind him. Yes. And it's zoomed out like I want a trailer that's the exact same way up until that point and then slowly a monster rises from behind him and it's an action game. Okay. Like that's what I want. I want something that goes over the top and becomes like a fantasy like stupid thing
Starting point is 01:26:36 under the guise. But then once the cat's out of the bag in the trailer then it's ruined. No that's it but that's it. It just cuts off and shows credits after that. That would be incredible. Like I've talked to this before. I want a cabela game where there's ghosts or stands that inhabit the wolves. Yeah. That's best delivered as a secret though for sure. Maybe but I want the trailer to at least hint on it. I want there to be speculation. I want an ARG. There's this book that's like actually you might be interested in it. It's like a horror book and it's where it's a horror story that takes place inside an Ikea. Right. Okay. Well I've lived a couple of those. Sure. And the book looks like an Ikea catalog. Okay. That is designed with the same
Starting point is 01:27:23 aesthetics and drawings and you go through it and it has all the artwork of the little furniture and the little like you know goreng and all those weird names and stuff. And then as the further you get into it like the the assembled DIY like instructions are for like torture devices and horrible blades and fucked up shit. Yeah. And it just gets iron maidens and it's all but with the clean perfect Ikea aesthetic and it's super cool. I like that. You're right. Yeah. That's like a novel. It's a book. Yeah. I forget the name of it but I feel like that would be up your island. Well I went to Ikea actually a week ago and I was afraid that the barrel would launch at me from on high and kill me like what did Worf. But they're killing me just pulverized every
Starting point is 01:28:13 word it would kill a human though. Oh yeah. Kill me. So tough because I'm so soft. Take that hit from that two pound barrel. But Ikea got brand new sparkling water and then the cafeteria is great. Nice. I'm talking about the book called Horror Store. Oh that's so good. Right. And it's got the little umlaut over the old type thing. I guess that's an umlaut. And I can see a little bit of sinisterness and that on the cover of this there's three photos from on the wall. There's like a scary face and two hands. Yeah. Yeah. And it just and it like it has like all that's cool. The whole thing. I'll get that. The whole thing is a fucking Ikea analog for like fucked up shit. Plus Liana worked at an Ikea for a while so she get a kick out of this too. I think I'll get that. Yeah. Orsk
Starting point is 01:28:59 ask yourself. Yeah. It's it's pretty fun like and it's it's very um to cynical take. But the book is actually the catalog. The book is part is no the book is the book because it's your but you're reading a story that although but in between but in but yeah but in between chapters and like and placed in between pages is like. There you go. There you go. I see it. Ikea catalog things exactly. Okay. Okay. That's cool. Wow. Where'd you hear this buddy of mine told me about it. Okay. That's awesome. Yeah. So with that fishing planet evolution or the guys fishing and then slowly you see like this creepy face under the water and that's it. Like I want a bit of Cthulhu and that's what I'm saying. Dirt fishing planet. Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of creepy faces. Oh no.
Starting point is 01:29:58 Fear effect. Why invented faces. Wow. You make a creepy face when you see her boobs. I don't know. It's okay. Really. That's what you got. You want to you want to try one. It's too late now. Creepy faces. Yeah. You have to think of a story that would feed into creepy. Speaking of a story that is enhanced by clean lines and strong visual design. Here's fear effect reinvented. Well fear effect reinvented is from the French studio sushi and yeah they announced fear effect said I remember this right there was another fear effect game that was announced back as a kick starter which I had no interest in because it's a weird tactical thing. Oh yeah I remember that fuck that. Who cares. And we were all like fear effect is back but not really like tactical games
Starting point is 01:30:47 I'm fine with but here's the thing it's like it's like let's cancel this new legacy a cane game and make this MMO no one wanted. It's kind of like it was to me this struck me as almost like a like we got the license let's do something with it type of game but either way these guys are committed to fear effect as we can see here but after that kick starter they're now announcing a full on remake of the original game which is what everyone wants. Everyone wins. Well anyone that would care about fear effect because I put in fear effect. Can you click that trailer so we can see a little bit of it. I put fear effect in about a I don't know a year ago and I was like this is wonky as shit and like the camera is bad and the controls are bad but like graphically
Starting point is 01:31:29 it's kind of nice. Yeah no graphically it's always been nice but I've always had a hard time getting past the controls for sure. Yeah it is it is closer to a load in the dark than Resident Evil. Yeah that's that's not bad. Especially in terms of controls. That looks fine. Yeah it's not much to see going on in the fear effect to reinvented teaser but you get to see a model. I think that looks really bad compared to the original because it's not sharp lines because it doesn't have a style. Yeah I guess it's a it's a little it's a little so it's a little so shaded but like the first one was striking with how like aggressive. Oh it stood the fuck out. Absolutely. It looks like what they were trying to do. That's
Starting point is 01:32:14 where it looks like. Yeah so we're looking at images of the original. So would you like it if it was just cleaner like that. Yes. Yeah I agree. I would much rather have like a HD version of that like like anime design I guess. Yeah I definitely remember seeing it and going like oh man what are we going to get our ghosts in the shell game that looks like this. Plus that type of cel shading is French to me. Like it's what 13 looks like the old Ubisoft shooter based on the French comic. That type of cel shading like like screams like French graphics to me for like for stylized. I mean it's it's more anime but I but but you know what I mean like European cartoons that tried to ape that try to do it. Yeah it's that that type of subject. I just don't like that I
Starting point is 01:32:56 can tell that it's a 3D model. I agree at glance. I agree that fear effect is known for its bold art style and that unfortunately this 3D model doesn't do that justice. Well okay. But I'd rather the controls be improved than that. That is true. It's more of the thing for me. Yeah that's cool. I'm glad they're making it though. Controls in that original game are fucking bad. Yeah. Even even for somebody like me and Mad who like appreciate old bad control. I feel like like they are like looking at the like this particular picture of the old one as well like I think the cleavage just needs like a hint of a highlight to not be so flat. Well that's that's that's perfect too. There was less cleavage in the first one because of that reason I think. Yeah retro
Starting point is 01:33:43 helix I believe. Yeah so that's for a factory event and I imagine they're going to get around to the second one too. That's fine success. Yeah I you know I never played the second one. I don't really opinion on it. What you do have opinions on what. Is all give you whatever you have. Biomutant and if you don't then you better. So biomutant. So I'll tell you I'm going to be furious if this is announced for like North America. There's because I still feel that this is this is from a German ad. We can see this for post apocalypse. I will be furious. Anyone changes the title of this. I'm a market. This will 100 percent be changed to no biomutant with a different subtitle. No yes you know if it comes out here in North America as biomutant I'm open world RPG.
Starting point is 01:34:42 This is what I'm talking about where I'm complaining like things need to be dumber. Yeah. Don't leave the name biomune. So biomune box art out and it's just by it's just that photo of the record. Yeah. Yeah. Raccoon guts with Jiminy Jiminy. So he's a biomutant for those that don't know biomune's a action RPG coming from Jiminy Park THQ Nordic and you play as this cool fusion of guts from Berserk and I don't know if you do actually. I think that's just an ad showing the character showing a character. But I think now the screenshots. I think you make your own character. Yes. No you make your own character but he's still like I think the base animal is the type of raccoon but you can change his fur color. You can add different types of
Starting point is 01:35:27 but you can make his costume. But I've seen some of these screenshots look like completely different creatures. Oh that's because the gameplay is that he gets powers and like if you look at this the CG trailer for it his arm turns into a scaly lizard arm. He can mix and match like that's why he's a biomutant dude. OK. But you can change him a lot and the gameplay is like basically you can mix and match and he morphs to better suit his environment. We should contextualize here. This is being made by THQ Nordic and it's an open world post a lot apocalyptic kung fu RPG action RPG. You got to tick those boxes and we got this was discovered via an Amazon leak because screenshots got posted with a fake release date of December 31st 2018.
Starting point is 01:36:12 And the description on Amazon said by a mutant is a post apocalyptic open world open open world action role playing game that delivers real time melee shooter and mutant action new ability action replay ability by varied and deep character progression exploration of three systematically generated worlds. And it's like an underworld. It's checkbox after checkbox solar system by foot mech air balloon jet ski. You could go down the stage. Oh look there's a guy who's got a jet ski. It's also got a fully customizable character. See if you go down the next screen after that will you see like the character is like now orange and has like Joker face paint. Yeah. It's super cool. This feels of the trailer. So there's footage of it. No it's just CG trailer
Starting point is 01:37:00 I watched it earlier today. OK. You fight like a big monster and it's fine. But it don't look like you know like the X that just caused devs. But the screenshots are in game though. This feels like a game that will get trimmed maybe from that. That's me. It's made by former just cause developers. Are they the ones that left before just cause three. I don't know. It said they also worked on Mad Max. So he also has biomechanical friends. As you can see as his biomechanical grasshopper still OK. So it's not like you create a character. It's you play as this biomechanical raccoon. His name better be Biomutant. And then all those screenshots we've seen is like him evolving. Hello Biomutant. Is that correct. Or he's in different forms. It's
Starting point is 01:37:48 you know it's unclear whether that's character creation variation or that's superpower like variations. Cool. So here's the rules of nature moment where he slashes through this ogre's sword. No. I am down for secret revenge. I'm down for Vex too. Sure. This is as close as we'll get. Look at that little Biomutant run. And he hides in this little thing and then this is about to explode. And he's like oh but I'm safe though. Oh but I'm a biomutant. But am I safe. Yeah. Biomutant. Toxic red wall. Yeah exactly. Yeah. Vex meets red wall. I'm I'm looking forward to this just because it's something different. Looks fun. Looks looks very different and fun. Exactly. Yeah. Absolutely. What does systematically generated worlds mean. Does that mean crafted worlds.
Starting point is 01:38:48 But there's some type of randomized element. It makes me feel. Could that just be a mistranslation. It makes me feel like it uses a kind of Diablo style world generation. It's not quite saying randomly generated. No. Certain elements must appear. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. But the arrangement of those blocks can be so roguelike. Or shadow warrior two had bits that had to be there. It just mixed and matched where they went to where items dead cells. Yeah. Dead cells. Like you're going to get a number of layouts but there's essentials that will not randomly generated worlds. It's pseudo random. That's fine. I'm shuffled worlds. Even even let it die had some of that too. Yeah. The same elements are on each stage but the corridors and pieces connecting them will
Starting point is 01:39:41 change. You didn't. Good name. It's like such a super Nintendo Genesis name. All other cool names file menace that have more information being announced include the cool shit we followed Raiders of the Broken Planet which is fucking free. And then there's a there's a ten dollar expansion. This is the most European article of ever seen you bring up. You can choose to pick up the game's first expansion Alien Mists for a tenner. Thanks. That's ten pounds. Ten euro or ten or sorry. Nine ninety nine euro pounds or so. Yeah. Raiders of the Broken Planet title before it's made by Mercury steam and it's like co-op shooter thing but it has going to have story packs or something. Yeah. So basically the base game is going to be free and then that's it assuming
Starting point is 01:40:31 the story packs while I guess assuming you like it that you buy that's interesting. That's a very interesting way to do it. Yeah. And we haven't seen that get many story campaigns for ten bucks. Has anyone else done this and has anyone else been successful. I don't know. Off the top of my head I can't. I mean the base idea of the game is free and then you pay for other stuff. Maybe killer instinct but it's a fighting game. It's a little different than this. The this is story packs are ten dollars. Was it the stone. Still a little. What about. Yeah but they do sell story packs. Oh OK. Wasn't there. Wasn't there that. God what was that MMO with. Young. Young take him as the artist again. Magna Carta. Yeah. Where are you. No no no it's not
Starting point is 01:41:18 in those Guild Wars where you buy the game for one price by to play and there's no monthly fees. That's correct. But you buy expansions. Yes. Of which there have only been two in like eight years. I see. And the second one's coming out like today. OK. Like or tomorrow. So yeah. Is that crazy guy still working at Mercury Steam the one that went nuts and directed Lord the Shadow 2. I don't know. Yeah. Shell off so important. Play pro raiders of the broken planet play prologue for free forever. You said Lord of the Rings and that's. I did. No. You didn't actually say. I said I thought I said Mercury Steam Lord I said Lord's of Shadow said Lord's of Shadow. Didn't you say. I said Lord's of Shadow.
Starting point is 01:41:59 I heard Shadow of Lords are water but doesn't show that. That's fine. I can see what you or what you went there. Video game. She loves the most unsung hero and all of Lord of the Rings mythology. You know her name now. But you now you now know her story and it cut to a picture of J.R. Tolkien zombie corpse looking at a piece of paper then looking up going what. It's a fucking spider. It's a big evil spider is going to eat Sam. Like I know what you mean when you say like there's no video footage but it would be great to have a meme out of like something if anything not just a photo not just shadow of more war but like any dumb Lord of the Rings stuff that happens especially in the Hobbit because
Starting point is 01:42:44 tons of bullshit happened in the movies. Anyway the Raiders of the Broken Planet looks really cool and I hope that this plan of free plus a couple of purchasables is working out so it has played the prologue for free forever. That's what I said. Sorry I didn't hear. Yeah. And then the and then the campaigns are coming out at ten bucks sold separately. Yes. Starcraft 2. No. That no was not individual games. Yeah. Right. And there was not free. There was not a free version. No. There are 30 missions per campaign and that was the reasoning for spreading them out. The closest thing to free was installing a version of Starcraft on your friend's computer where you can play multiplayer. What the fuck was that the spawn version. Yeah. And that's all you
Starting point is 01:43:33 could do is play with your buddy. You can do that with Diablo 2 as well. Well I mean the same concept went into the Steam 2 packs right. So the buddy packs. Oh Willie you'll be since this is slightly related. You'll be interested in this. If you go to like steam steam bow dot net or it's being renamed back to battle dot net has it not battle that I don't know man anyway whatever you go there you go to Blizzard's classics they let you download a weird PC version of Blackthorn. That's as high res as you can get from that age and that's completely remixed and redone soundtracks. It's going to be red book audio. That's good. It's super weird. Why was that super under the radar? What do you mean? Is this like a remaster? I do. I like Blackthorn. That's why I
Starting point is 01:44:15 mentioned it to him. It's a really good game. Is it a remaster? Not really. It's the same game. The problem is that these these new compositions are not nearly as good as the Super Nintendo or Genesis versions of them. The compositions are different. They're high quality instruments but like the the dreading like kind of metal tone is gone from the music. It's strange. But but but the sprites are the sprites are the exact same just as high res you can get. Oh okay okay okay sorry for a second I thought like you meant because there's that weird 32x version where they redid everything that I want to talk about. Gotcha gotcha gotcha gotcha. The strange like like Blast Vikings is also there. You can download that along with Blackthorn.
Starting point is 01:44:59 And Rock and Roll Racing. So cool. He's the coolest. Love you Blackthorn. Man. Kyle give him his name. Kyle Blackthorn. It's so bad. It's the most 90s thing ever. The 90s are jealous of that name. Oh that reminds me of something about Hero Academia that you Blackthorn you would care about because you mentioned 90s. Yeah okay what? There are characters that represent different areas. Okay there is there is a character that might as well be named Image Comics and his name is Stain and he has all the fucking belts and yeah look up a picture of him. He looks different than everybody else in the show. Is it spelled like stained? No. Okay. How's it spelled? Just Stain. Stain. Yeah. That's pretty good. That's pretty good.
Starting point is 01:45:49 Like he's got all the pouches and shit. I like that. Oh I'm looking forward to those. Yeah okay well then I might as well pull it up then. Let's take a look at Stain from Hero Academia. Yeah yeah I found a picture. That's a good picture I found. It's just from the manga though. He's not in the anime yet. Yes he absolutely is. He showed up a little while ago. Okay because all the pictures I'm finding are just black and white. I found one for you. I also found one. Yeah I see it. I see it. I'm trying to pull it up for the folks. It's the fucking most it's ridiculous. Here's a problem with this is that that's still a super cool character to me. You're not even hating it ironically. I'm not even hating on that. That's cool. Yeah but characters will be straight up
Starting point is 01:46:36 given different art styles to be little homages to like fucking like eras of comics. I love the fucking random knives attached to his sides. That's that's the kicker. It reminds me of there's a lot more that you can't see like his feet have spikes coming out of them. Good. It's like it's it runs me of like how there's that like that Kenshin character that's just venom like they're not even pretending. There was a there was a character in the in the Kenshin manga that was just a symbiote and like you go oh so like is that like inspired by and no like spawns like no it's not like spawn and try it is literal and it's just that the creator of Kenshin is a huge fan. I just took it. Huge huge fan. I just took it. I thought it would be fun.
Starting point is 01:47:26 Let's see here. What's the name of this fucking character. Let me pull this up so you can see it. I don't want to see it. I need a name. Mummy mummyoi mummyoi. Oh my god. Oh my god. It's so lame. And it's like no I just wanted a symbiote. See that's lame to me. Yeah that's 90s lameness. Oh yeah that's really straight up. Stain is way cooler than that. Yeah. Oh fuck that guy. We're putting a symbiote in Kenshin. That guy looks lame. Stain's cool. Too bad. You didn't want it. Too bad. Here he is. Yeah. Oh man. Dude's just a fan. What are you going to say. The Kenshin anime even get to this. I don't think so. I Billy. Oh because no because they have to make up all the bullshit. They ended before the manga but Billy can probably give us the details because he's the one that told me about
Starting point is 01:48:22 that. Because he created Kenshin. He was there. Mummyoi mummyoi. Get out of here mummyoi. Speaking of manga and going ahead of everything else. This was like the day. This was an hour ago. We've got the Attack on Titan season two trailer for the game. The game. Exactly. So dude. Attack on Titan season two. The game. Because basically after Omega Force did a fucking cool ass job on the last one. That is I think that is by far my favorite Warriors game. I wish Berserk could have gone in a good game. Yep. So good. I'm going to say that. Go ahead. I'm going to say that beats that beats Zelda. Yeah. Yeah. Hyrule Warriors. It's just so much fun to swing around. It feels completely different in neutral from everything else and that's the best. And there's a lot of weird ass shit that
Starting point is 01:49:14 happened in that second season that I want to do. Yep. I want to fight that whale. Yep. Yeah. I know that fucking 100,000 foot tall T-Rex. That giant T-Rex. Yeah. So here's the thing. All those all that ridiculous shit you just talked about. Yeah. Was what you would get at the end and end. So remember a while ago Liam was making reference to the extra missions. Yes. I did some of those as well. All it was was and it's just shit that no one knows what it refers to because it's not in anything because it was from the second season or later. It's further. It's further than the books. It's further than whatever. We don't know what it is. No one knows yet. But there's just animals you're fighting. Titan animals. Yeah. So that's cool. They might
Starting point is 01:50:00 not even be canon. I don't care. That's whatever. I know it's rare. It cares about the sacredness of the attack on Titan canon in the fucking swinging video game. It's super rare. Yeah, exactly. Fight that T-Rex. I want to fight Spider-Man in that game. Can I fight Spider-Man? He'd win. Actually, you know what? I would actually like to fight. I would like to fight human opponents. You mean fight like this battle? Yeah. I want 3D maneuver versus 3D maneuver. Yeah. If you like 3D maneuver. Okay. Okay. So what if small Titans get 3D maneuver gear? I have a concept for you. Yeah, what if? I want you to think about it. Perhaps maybe Titanfall 2 with ziplines versus ziplines because that's a thing.
Starting point is 01:50:50 And you both eject and then you zipline into each other in midair. And then you eject again. Yes. That's correct. Yes. Just saying. By the way, Goku's the worst father ever. PSA. Every time somebody says just saying, all I can think about is how bad a Goku father is. Oh, bad a Goku father is. He's a bad Goku father. Yeah. Yes. PSA. Yep. Change your passwords. Just in case. Oh, wonderful. PlayStation has PlayStation BR was hacked and then eventually PlayStation's official
Starting point is 01:51:35 Twitter account was hacked. And it's unclear whether or not that means all of it or just their social media. But since this happens every two years, something to do with Sony's infrastructure gets hacked. It's like. Okay, so here's the deal. Change your password anyway. Because it doesn't hurt. But more importantly than changing your password, enable two-factor authentication and then stop. Maybe Sony should do that. Maybe they should. Yeah. The vast majority of hacks like this are actually just social engineering. Yeah. You get a hold of an email and you fucking email some guy in IT. Any emails you packed the passwords. The fun part about two-factor is that you get to know
Starting point is 01:52:21 the moment someone's trying some shit. Yep. There was a moment when Billy started to help us out and work for us in editing that my phone went off because I think I'm one of the first people who gets contacted on the two-factor and it went off from a location that I didn't recognize. And I called you and I called Bill and said, which one of you motherfuckers is getting in? And Bill was like, it was me. I'm like, okay. That's fine. So why are you so far out of town? He's like, I'm not. It's like, oh, the GPS screwed up. Yep. So just a heads up for everybody that has a PlayStation account. Yeah, it's genuinely fun to me when I see. It's only happened to me once or twice when you see somebody. It's like, oh, they're trying. Good luck with that shit.
Starting point is 01:53:06 Even getting the passwords not enough. You have to physically have my phone. You'll never get it. You'll never get that. What if they whisper sweet nothings in your ear? Well, then I guess I can have it. Okay. No, no. Over my dead body. Will you get my phone? What if they play the most annoying sound in the world? Pretty close, actually. So have you heard about the greatest part of Sonic Mania? I have not. Oh, yes, I know this. You know, this is fucking amazing. I don't know. And it's more and I'm blow. I'm making it seem like a bigger deal than it actually is. But it's amazing to me
Starting point is 01:53:48 because it's an official thing. That's why I just the fact that this is official is great. Sonic Mania is a game with Easter eggs in it. And one of the most in the world is at the end of Studio Opalus Zone Act two. There is this TV screen that breaks, right? Yeah. When it breaks, it plays a hum of a noise. The noise that it plays is the same sound that was played all stream at the city to Sega's Sonic 25th anniversary shit show where the fucking everyone was complaining about that fucking little of the humming boom that you can hear when you watch the Jim Sterling supercut plays at the end of the boat of the fucking Studio Opalus stage when the TV goes out. It's awesome. Well, remember, it's very cool. Let me see if I can hear it get
Starting point is 01:54:42 the sound so that you can hear it in case you don't remember it. You don't want to play the actual sonic clip just because it's like slightly spoilers, I guess. Well, there's moments of silence here. That buzz. That's a horrible that buzz, right? And then towards the end of the level, there's a moment where TV breaks. Yeah. And I just want to see if we can get this for you guys. Oh my God, that's just there it is straight up. That's ridiculous. It's fucking great. So I want to point out that the person who animated the intro to Sonic Mania is the same guy who did that web comment. Yeah, with all the creepy ass sonic shit. Like, hey, I'm nipples the echidna and tails like breaking his arms to spin them around and fly the same artist. That's the same artist. I love that.
Starting point is 01:55:38 So everything about Sonic Mania is about getting all of this all your shit and get all the warriors together. This is this again, like it's like who at Sega would have had this amazing sense of humor, not Sega, the fans that Sega hired to make the sonic computer account is probably in there somewhere. I wish they could have gotten weird animation errors from Sonic Underground. Like, yeah, like, oh, I'm sure there's a sign somewhere like being going, I'm going to find my mama like all these years of weird dumb sonic shit are like so worth it if we now enter an era of self aware so here here's sonic where like it started with sonic boom making fun of itself and now the game Malmania making fun of itself and if they continue this just path there's see they will be untouchable
Starting point is 01:56:26 here's the problem fucking sonic sonic sonic boom right sonic boom the game does not make fun of itself sonic boom the show makes fun of itself like crazy that's what I mean so it makes fun of makes fun of itself those are there's a there's a trend here Japanese western western and so we're going to get sonic forces and sonic forces should is the perfect avenue for self mockery because of all the actual order because Japan will give more material so that the west can make fun of it in a future game like deadly straight course and be super lame I wonder how uh Japan feels about how the west is handling sonic right now I wonder if it's one of those situations where they go we have the perfect image for that I don't know like is it like embarrassing yes listen because
Starting point is 01:57:16 they're killing it if I were they're fucking killing it I worked on like sonic generations and was seeing people like on masco like oh my god this new sonic medium is the best sonic game in in decades I'd feel a little embarrassed right and that has to be like christian whitehead and the the people who made this game like they know sonic better than the people who worked on sonic at this point they know better than yujinaka no it's just it's got to be embarrassing including all that weird ass embarrassing creepy shit it's like a story I finally saw sonic dream collections the other night on the girlfriend stream by the way that big the cat thing is the worst thing I've ever seen in my life yeah we saw it oh boy what you looking up there man
Starting point is 01:57:58 we're kind of we're there for it you're on the cutting edge we're on the cutting edge of that oh when everyone else was doing it but I like that word cusp yeah everyone likes cusp what are you looking up there man I will try to find a reaction image for you so why don't we just go along with the news all right well forging ahead uh Nintendo is forging ahead with uh a new arms character that's being teased it's like a creepy clown thing oh fuck that um I think we can't really see no you can't worry no it's very blurry but what we can't see from the blur is it's uh holding nunchucks what and large pants oh large pants and nunchucks oh it is nunchucks yeah I thought it was a clown we can't tell yeah that could be a clown it might be a clown I mean there's clowny legs going on
Starting point is 01:58:41 there's clown like legs going on but like the head is uh out of focus but there's nunchucks that's good enough for me you should be happy yeah everybody likes nunchucks yeah because they hurt people free update and yourself if you're not good with them I'm not good with them especially when you call them nunchucks yeah because I hit myself on them I'm not good with my nunchucks I just said it wrong too oh that wasn't intentional no I said nunchucks and I didn't see what's worse nunchucks or nunchaku well nunchaku can technically be correct I maybe that's yeah that's why I'm not sure but in that tone of voice I'm gonna say still nunchucks is worse okay that's annoying to the ear uh if you have letters that are annoying to the ear
Starting point is 01:59:34 you should send them where would you send them to nunchucks that's not an email.com oh man now nunchucks.com prepare of all your favorite nunchucks all your numb chukery I'd love a list of every fake email we've created over the course of the show that's not bad there's probably like five or six even and more importantly are they all held by the same one person I still think that barf barf barf at barf barf.com barf male.barf come on you know what yeah dot barf is not a real get your head in the is that a domain can I get a dart barf fuck dart barf wow you're trying I'm trying it's a good old dart barfs any luck over there Matt no not yet all right well I can look and listen dart barfs is the worst
Starting point is 02:00:25 form of barfs I mean darts shit it's real bad right now all right so we got one coming in from skewerstar and he says they're super best mechoromanticast not counting p5 because there's way too obvious in your opinion what games have the best ui's so let's do it once and for all we've done it many times before this is the last time we're gonna do it okay let's take it from the top 118 dirt because capcom versus snk1 yes go I like capcom versus sk1 I like both biotic commando the the the remake both of them well just the main we armed and the remake what's in game that's special um oh no it's more front end than anything okay front off um dead space that space that's creative because it's not it's not actually a ui it's on
Starting point is 02:01:18 the character yeah like nowadays it's old hat but that was new when I went in when they did it once ui was fucking killer man yep and what else one and done this is the last time we're doing this question is it though yep any get all your shit in um I like weapon lords weapon lords bones go into blood blood bones blood bones are blood bones is good yep yep yep that's a good one too right there you go so besides the obvious that is p5 those are the uh those are the answers huh cool all right uh let's take one did watch the next question be the exact same what is the best side from take one from josh josh says why don't you read more emails what's up with that well um well he needs to
Starting point is 02:02:13 a find good ones send the how about you send some good ones too oh shit um because we just whatever I don't care I don't know he doesn't care we filled the way we throw it in there at the end we answer some and that's that stop criticizing me leave me alone and also make your own podcast shut up like every year or so we'll do like almost a bunch of emails for Christmas or whatever good way to handle this criticism I know right you don't think going petty is the right way to I think going petty is exactly the right way don't worry yeah so fuck off really the real answer is stop criticizing them I don't read more emails because each shit that's why oh I don't want to eat shit could you read more emails instead I'll read more emails if you eat more shit okay if I come
Starting point is 02:02:57 in here and eat shit will you read an email for every shit that I eat for every whole shit one whole shit one shit can it be like rabbit shit it needs to be a pellet no no like it has to be an entire session to me that's one whole shit all right so listen uh your emails are not worth that much I can't eat that much shit for you guys we'll have to go with what yeah is willing to do that and done um um he should read more emails though here's another one dear moistened Mars bars are we gonna get a gross are we gonna get an email that explains why we don't read that many emails because that's a good reason why we wouldn't moistened Mars bars sounds awful almost like shit almost but you'd eat that though I ate a Snickers bar just the other day
Starting point is 02:03:41 there you go it's not a Mars bar but I think of them together you've had a deep fries deep fried no I don't like deep fried chocolate bars yeah it seems like the frying takes away it's too much and when you order it you feel like you've given up yeah I've only done it once and I regret yeah no say took a bite I was like I wish it wasn't right okay woolly here we go here we go why the fuck did the fuck because Matt's phone was plugged into the computer yeah why would you do this then it made the boopy boop you saw this this twitter I can see Sega says fine you guys make a sonic game if it's so simple nine out of ten reviews Sega vegetales gift yeah right right right yeah that's the bad that's a funny one I read you have to go back to find that you do
Starting point is 02:04:25 real real far couldn't find it thank you for plugging in your phone it's okay um dear moistened Mars bars I've noticed a little mechanic in games where they put you in a situation where you're supposed to lose a fight yes most recent example in LA noir was where calso's pitted against some thugs and you get your ass beaten no matter what it's part of the story I'm sure there are plenty of examples but I always wondered from a technical or narrative standpoint what happens if someone either through stroke of luck or cheating wins that unwinnable scripted fight do the developers ever anticipate that small chance of victory and have a solution for it well no because the life bar is oftentimes infinite there there are two
Starting point is 02:05:03 there and occasionally there will be a not infinite life bar that basically goes oh fuck okay you did it there's a couple ways you can solve this um the the most often way that you solve it is an rpg will make it technically possible to beat the boss like you will have an hp bar I remember tales games do this yeah and tales like if you over level it is totally possible to beat them and you will beat them and you'll get a substantial reward for doing so right and then upon beating them in the cutscene they'll go wow you're pretty tough but and then there will be and then doing the thing right afterwards or they just when when a boss or whatever's enemy has reached a certain threshold it just triggers a cutscene no matter what yeah so the fighting game thing to do is when
Starting point is 02:05:47 you have two stories where they're almost sharing a cutscene but from you're playing as different characters both characters at the end of the fight no matter who chaos who they both go yeah and then goes ah and then the one person does the thing that wins yeah because that's what's cinematically what I hate is when it happens in a fighting game or whatever where you blow out an enemy like this not even like you know when the enemy is supposed to win but it's like let's say you perform a super move on akuma or sagat or whatever and then the next cutscene is like yeah you like at least have some different dialogue i cry three you fight that first fight with virgil no matter how hard you whip his ass in the cutscene he kicks the absolute ever loving
Starting point is 02:06:28 yeah so welcome to some of the problems i had with especially uh early versions of super robot wars where yeah you would do your fucking galaxy destroying unbelievable final ogie on somebody and then like it would just take the hit and go minimal damage and then continue to talk and shit in the cutscene well if it was like a mini boss or whatever because the mini boss can't die in that fight he's got to talk shit to you and then run away so you have those moments and then you have the moments where they fix this though the massive damage like galaxy destroying attack eventually goes off and then because the game has to calculate the damage it just makes a huge number pop up yeah and then a generic oh i'm blowing up thing plays afterwards and it's so much
Starting point is 02:07:17 lamar than if they died mid cutscene right right they should they should be disintegrated by the end of that move and they are and you see the thing disintegrate in the animation oh no that's way shitty and then it comes back together and goes nine nine nine nine nine damage and then blows up again because the system works the way it works and i fucking hated that forever and they finally fixed it by making certain attacks kill you in the animation and then it's gone um so good good job doing that uh ban presto uh we got one coming in from dav and he says dear super icelandic fashion friends hmm ever heard of icelandic necro pants nope what it's a ritual where you have to get the permission from a living friend to use his skin after his death to make a pair of pants
Starting point is 02:08:08 you take the skin to a warlock and he can take a coin stolen from a poor widow and if he puts it in the scrotum of your dead friend's skin pants along with a piece of paper with a rune on it uh uh the result is your necro pants produce endless wealth the only catch is that you have to convince someone to take possession of your skin pants of endless wealth otherwise you go to hell when you die so i didn't really have much of a inclination to travel that part of the world but i think i have less now i mean he does go so my question is who do you trust enough to make the necro pants that but forget the question how about you just how about you end on a high note dave and just tap out with that story hey this is why woolly doesn't read that many emails anymore so i looked
Starting point is 02:08:55 it up and found a photo of these necro pants these are a real thing there you go that's a photo there you go that's a real thing i didn't doubt it i slandered necro pants i didn't google it because i felt in my heart that it was real i i saw that and i'm like that's too precise it's too precise and too easy to falsify yeah right you can be like oh that's not real that never happened no no that's too precise to not be real i would still say that yeah see here's the thing dave that was good but don't ask the question after that's strong enough to just leave on hey you ever hear about this shit no holy crap done and done necro pants is a cool name i'm not giving my fucking skin to no one no one wants it but you're dead though also who the fuck could even wear my necro pants that's
Starting point is 02:09:33 true you i got no but i mean i got tiny legs okay well i mean we can all wear yoga pants a little bit i don't think i don't think that's a good idea how about this no one want to make the yoga necro pants no one wants your skin but what about the meat under your skin because body worlds it's trash under here body worlds wants to take to take your muscles and your bones and pose you into like a an arc thing and they'll turn all your pieces into a toilet no i don't want that you do actually it's what you said so no your dead corpse to be a toy never said i want to be a toilet you will be a you will be a toilet a meat toilet that's disgusting that's bad to say on display at body worlds what are you gonna be i hate that body world shit
Starting point is 02:10:18 do you want to be cool and like deus ex human revolution and and fucking uh casino royale yeah that was it that it had its time the horse is pretty dope no way no you didn't like the the exploded man i don't like that shit i want to see it get it on my face yeah matt doesn't like just gratuitous human gore in his face i know i went to go no no it's fucking real i mean they have the side they have the the the waiver you sign when you walk in where it's like do you want to give us your body and i'll go and i'll take the form and i'll write absolutely not and they're like well why did you write and then someone will just cross out the knot yeah
Starting point is 02:11:03 and it works absolutely says matt so you're right there no no he changed his mind yeah yeah he was in he was in mid done and tiny and absolutely we got your body that's ours now yep and the body explosion body snatch yes grab me in the middle of the night i'm getting carried out ballad of the body explosion muscle bomber no yeah there were the the only thing we're just the weirdest part was that one section where they had the um uh babies and Wednesday night body exploded they had nine nine jars of nine babies in different months and before fantastic news and it was the one part where they played music behind it great to uh you know soften the body blow yeah we got one coming in that was a terrible time that we just had
Starting point is 02:11:53 hey i'm a huge with a c or a k with a k oh that's the good Catherine i'm a huge fan of this one okay all right let's hear it dear path you oh boy matrick and willworth in middle school uh-oh my friend and i were really into narrative oh boy so many kids i remember one time i asked my friend why he never wore his headband to school because i was jealous of him having one well who wouldn't be oh my god his mom apparently told him that they're banned from schools for being used to represent gangs that's a good lie it took me a few years to remember this and realize his mom was saving his ass from looking like a huge weed beat downs have you ever been saved from cringe has anyone ever you're all over this question holy fuck that mother is a hero
Starting point is 02:12:48 i walked in every cringe moment in my life full force what a fucking mother that woman deserves all your love respect and praise forever you're not wearing that fucking narrative she is a hero that like you lie to tell the kid so that because she knows right away that you're gonna that's that lame thing he likes you will ruin your school life and establish yourself as someone to get beat the fuck up if you walked in with that as well as kid don't do it that's a good lie that's a good that's a good line noble mommy of the year right i bet you there's tons of examples of this but you actually don't know them you don't know they're saved from really maybe because i'm thinking there's some like that but i can't think of any off off hand like do i wish my mom told me said
Starting point is 02:13:39 whatever you do don't get up and scream are you ready how about you help me there mom she could not have foreseen this no because who could have but still it appreciate someone telling me at least a future version of myself never you could go back in time and tackle yourself whatever you do never inquire about the preparedness of your high school that's good son there comes a time where everyone wants to know about the status of their high school and how ready they are and whether or not they are pre adequately prepared you fight this impulse it's an understandable thought yes however learn from our mistakes guy always always want to inquire about the readiness state learn from the mistakes we've made in our lives
Starting point is 02:14:34 you know your father wants to ask about his high school and he he is still missing a lung oh boy all right i'm sure moms and dads have been heroes millions of times in this regard the secret on Naruto is weird because depending on the age like oh man Naruto so fucking lame i want to kick my kids ass yeah uh okay here's one coming in from shichi no bushi it's fine no problems with that in p4 and 5 the female social links and confidence result in forming a relationship with the characters not necessarily but sure sure well they're okay relationships oh yeah okay yeah uh it allows you to have multiple girlfriend despite warning you about the potential problems of doing this there are no real consequences
Starting point is 02:15:26 that'll be a problem um i haven't played far into p5 enough to know though we do know there are consequences yes there are no there aren't well i mean like there are consequences it just depends on whether or not you give a fuck we'll get there really i'd imagine there's there are consequences but but they're there wow they're soft consequences they sure are uh in p3 at least any of the romanceable girls would have their card reversed if they discovered you were two timing with them um when discussing this with a friend about p4 we came up with an idea that during the big power friendship scene um there could be an opportunity for the confusion to lead to wait you're his girlfriend i thought i was what's going on here and then they turn on you
Starting point is 02:16:15 and you don't beat the boss and get a bad that'd be cool i understand this would have been a jerk move on the developer's part but you did get for a warning what are your opinions on this i think what they do is fine i think that's a terrible idea i think what they did in the end was fine i i'm happy with i'm i'm happy with what exists i really like and what they do in the golden to get around that i think that's great uh i think i really like what they do in p5 yeah and i can't stand what they do in p3 i hate it because i feel i feel like the version of it where like it's there you can do it and there are consequences it just depends on whether you're a piece of shit or not i i can't i can't stand in p3 the idea that like if you want to hang out
Starting point is 02:16:59 with yuko and you hang out with yuko enough times like she's gonna fall for you no matter what and you have to fuck her it's like the idea is it's ridiculous like i don't like yuko that much and i want the strength s-length they didn't work out the kinks yeah they did now they need the the four introduction of like nah you're cool you stay over there you could go that was important yep uh i say yeah no gameplay ramifications just very detailed optional scenes that make you feel bad if you choose to read them that's right that's fine i'm super or not make you feel bad or not yeah if you just if you're just like that if that's just who you are yeah then fine but if you've gotten to the point of like going this far anyway like you're either just doing it to like game it
Starting point is 02:17:43 or you are you care and uh i i think what they did is is perfect yep though p4 does have something like that but it's very very hidden and it is extremely rare and is if you have certain s-links at certain levels in which you go out to places there are days in which that multiple s-links can overlap and it becomes awkward and uh you has to fucking like finagle his way out of a fucking threes company situation but i've never seen them they're super super rare it's only like specific days don't play the answer don't play the answer don't play it's really bad and the answer doesn't matter like the answer to that question isn't important uh so uh with that let's wrap up before we get into the p5 spoiler cast all right let's wrap up we probably need to take like a five
Starting point is 02:18:43 minute break before you start that up because we need to talk about the week oh yeah i had okay just like work yeah all right so right now that stuff that's uh i didn't expect it to end up being concurrent but minecraft and um police knots are going so did you do more minecraft i know we play police knots instead no but how come there's like 12 more videos of oh because of mine because i realized i think billy went back and he made videos called best friends asmr yeah craft and what those are are the ones with the actual gameplay removed gameplay or music a gameplay audio game play audio so it's just us talking so are you going to be using my i i don't he just did it okay billy's billy's billy's calling the shots right now
Starting point is 02:19:36 shot caller did anyone ask him to do that i have no idea okay so we billy's calling the shots right we talked about doing this last podcast we've lost control we have no we have no the reins are gone i don't know billy's gone maverick that's crazy and he's doing whatever the fuck he wants to do police knots is a lot of fun police knots is a lot of fun i i thought that might have been a maybe scary game to lp but then we had so much fun playing through it there you go and and and i've i've heard a lot of people going warning going hey do you know this is lp poison because it's all this text and i'm like no no no no no no no no no i know exactly what this is oh wait sorry someone said to you hey don't play police knots it's lp poison you are playing minecraft yeah
Starting point is 02:20:24 also hey story mode right now who helped us hey did slow beef tell you was lp poison no well i think he would have warned you because he would know he would know slow beef seems like the kind of guy who would know what's lp poison or not yeah slow beef did a lot for that game he's a very slow moving beef um i like how his little icons are a clock and then a piece of meat see next to each other very slow it's awesome uh so yeah while billy runs a muck uh swath of destruction there is minecraft there is police knots there is uh mark echoes getting up contents on which if you hadn't if you weren't aware and i'll repeat it on the lp because it's a cool fact it deserves repeating contents under pressure is the is the label that is on an actual spray can referring to the fact
Starting point is 02:21:16 contents are under pressure it can explode so it'll explode in your face so it's a it's a little when puff daddy's punching you in the back so it's a little pun don't light spray cans on fire it's a little pun pun referencing the thing that's on a spray can there you go cool hey would punish or kill mark echo no what about no but tagging is illegal what about tagging what about tagging air force one no what about tagging his kids graves yes all right see it see it's depends what you tag if they went cool little kids see people on our subreddit found like fucking images of frank castle like killing a bunch of people and then being like those were criminals right right that that sounds like a parody comment no what about real cuz barracuda comes out
Starting point is 02:21:59 what about fake tagging air force one fake tagging and then lying and saying that you did it and then not making ever and then making everyone believe it just straight up hey you photoshop a photo of you tagging something video shop technically then people go and and look at it and it's clean and you're like haha they video actually that's weird of that because that one and it turns out and then it turns out to just be an ad because that one guy that one guy tagged his tag his family's skeletons with his pee yeah punishment like that's not tagging is it technically he was writing if you hey if you pee in the snow and write your name are you tagging the earth yes absolutely you bombed it it's temporary but it is a signature oh man that feels like that would be a really good
Starting point is 02:22:42 subtitle super you know grandma always said that peeing on a gravestone is god's graffiti yeah you've been workshopping that for a little while no he hasn't actually that's a line in the game i don't wait what yeah really almost you guys in your assumption that workshops or workshops i tell you uh what else is coming up though because hey is it all is it all woolly all the time or is there anything else going on i don't know well me and me and pat are making a thing called the shit storm right now so that's that's in the works there we go time is going uh so we've recorded some of that a couple okay one of which just failed outright yeah fuck that video yeah uh and i guess i will figure it out i can confirm that uh i'm gonna be in the netherlands
Starting point is 02:23:33 as uh friday really yeah why you gotta add to the netherlands for funds uh because i haven't ever gone anywhere for funds and print and and funsies i haven't i haven't i haven't i have had any sort of i'm going on vacation things you should do that then i'm gonna do that and matt and i'll just piss all over each other and billy will record it no actually because i'm going away this weekend for the weekend because it's my birthday weekend so okay well i mean i'm being we're gonna have to piss on each other on the weekend well i mean swedian for when are you coming back uh another one so we there a week later oh okay so we got to get all our woolly shit in are you gonna be are you gonna be uh phone in for the podcast is just gonna be me and matt handling it
Starting point is 02:24:20 did you think about this uh i i've been mulling it over i'm not sure yet okay we'll figure it out maybe we could just have a late podcast when you get back a week later yeah yeah think about all the week later think about all the news we'll have depends on uh depends on a lot of factors um including whether we have a sponsor that week or not and also a time frame oh yeah but uh let's remember time zones rather that the last time i did this was japan and i did call in from japan and edit it in japan that being said you probably don't have to do that i'm sure we could make billy do it well i will we'll find out we'll make him i it it and billy you here no ah so we'll figure it out but yeah uh i'm gonna be there and i think what
Starting point is 02:25:07 i'll do is because i've been getting some cool advice for some people and there are some people that are close by eat that shark's shit um get your necro pants stoop waffles no no the fucking dead shark in the ground yeah oh i don't know about that that's it poisonous damn i didn't hear about that i think uh carl pilkington ate some and he's man you can do it get a get a give a coin to a warlock see what happens and he can't be doing with this i feel like that that legend is like oh yeah just go to your local warlock well yeah i mean they're anywhere they're there um yeah i'm probably just gonna make like a twitter post that says like hey if you're here just reply to this thread you know and don't reply if you're not here that'll work that won't work
Starting point is 02:25:54 that'll work out yourself for not being here that's not working right now i i'm telling you it's the idea is already failing you yeah but i'll make a post to start like gathering people i guess um and then i'll probably meet people from the netherlands on a day and that'll be cool because i don't think any of us have been to europe you need to do me a favor i need you to dress up like a chef like a shaft chef chef no no dress up like shaft no dress up like a chef and start going down the streets of the pots and pans and being all like bork bork and shit i don't think and yes it's yes i know yep yes i know that that's wrong you're aware yes okay as long as long as that's the important part good that's good what is going on outside of that
Starting point is 02:26:43 uh outside of that uh matt you gotta stream tomorrow uh yeah there's a full remake of white day out on ps4 tomorrow i feel like a full remake of that game is weird considering it came out like last year no it didn't it did what it didn't no okay it's been that the original white day has been out since like 2005 well fuck me then huh it's just that we got that steam version working not steam version just pc version working because we got it working oh i thought that game had come out recently no no the that that remake was announced like like a year ago and it's finally coming out on ps4 tomorrow so i'm gonna take a look at that where is that yeah that is that matthew mcmuscle's cool what do you got on twitch what do you got on woolly versus uh i got some
Starting point is 02:27:27 super duper awesome things exclusive world premiere things yeah soon so your ass so we'll see or is it going to be something you pull out of your ass video tutorial of woolly showing how to make necro pants right inside right out of my ass coming soon out of your ass yeah coming super soon i'm probably gonna stream sonic and knuckles on the fucking friday at angriest pat suck fuckles yeah there you go i like that game it's got really good music that's a good one um that's just like when you look at those music video uh not like breakdowns like was michael jackson really well like so many of the tracks are just like torn together pieces of michael jackson tracks yeah it could just be someone stole it but well no but the credits confirm well the credits confirm
Starting point is 02:28:17 he's not in it yeah he backed away from the project because he's like man this sound chip's awful yeah basically no straight up there's a digital gaming video that no it's like his keyboardist and and but like a lot of them are just like pieces of other michael jackson songs just used as like the the baseline or something it's weird because i love that soundtrack and feeling like it's cobbled together just i don't know yeah it's fine cool all right well um on that note i guess we'll take uh take a little break a little breaky break a mini break come back a breaky imagine you'll throw some persona music in here to to gauge the break is that prepared uh i think i'll throw some other music in here okay but once the music comes back it will be me
Starting point is 02:29:05 and willy talking about persona five if you don't want to get spoiled on that game holy shit don't listen don't listen to the remainder of the podcast this is the end of the podcast for you if you're not interested in persona spoilers if you are interested in persona spoilers because let's face it we might talk about three and four oh we are going to talk about three and four so let's just say persona spoilers in general uh then you should say goodbye now and otherwise goodbye now and save this podcast for a later date goodbye now okay okay we're live again oh holy shit what's wrong with you what happened I was
Starting point is 02:30:46 burned out because of those sunglasses no they didn't protect you from the eclipse well I'm putting them back on holy shit is this what is this the what we're doing now you're just gonna wear sunglasses indoors every day to protect yourself from no it's more that when it's early and my eyes are fucking gross and having a hard time and it's our light I know I know but when I when I come in okay how should I put this I'm not wearing my shades on the podcast to be an asshole I'm wearing them because my eyes are all fucked up when I come in and like it helps it legit helps I don't know what to tell you I mean a lot
Starting point is 02:31:29 of things but like two things are one when I wake up and show up right away type of thing like like I when I wake up and I like wash my face and brush and leave like my eyes are like crusted for like the next hour and a half that's a little much it's fucking weird that's so so there's that and then there's the other thing too is that they're like I sometimes I'm just like like sensitive like I am right now for so much I do so you know do you remember when we used to play like third strike and then like sometimes my eyes would just start watering yeah yeah right that just happened sometimes and I can't explain
Starting point is 02:32:01 it but forget about all that shit okay you know what it's important what's that I'm gonna make a decision what's that I have a decision for you what's the decision on the one hand and then the other hand what's the other hand life will change or rivers in the desert life will change no question I'm going with rivers in the desert you're crazy that's I was really disappointed when I got to rivers in the desert it's it's not like New World Fool fucking battle for everyone souls but okay okay okay mighty Genesis Curie they are all better final boss here's the thing life will change is so incredibly strong it's amazing but
Starting point is 02:32:39 rivers in the desert it doesn't have the same cadence as the others no it doesn't it's a completely different type of soul and I didn't expect it at all and that's why it just sticks with me like at the end I found myself humming that more so like life will change if I on the moment like you want to pick the more exciting choice and life will change is the absolute the most the most exciting choice but rivers in the desert stays with you reminder don't listen any of this shit if you didn't beat percent five it has that like lower like bassy sound to it you know when like when the when the well the very first kickin is
Starting point is 02:33:13 like you know and it starts going low and you're like oh this is not an exciting kind of track it's a low attitude a basic kind of yeah and then when she kicks in on the clearance on it it actually feels a lot more similar to what a vocal boss track in say an a full-fledged SMT game would be a regular like a close to an RPG yeah and that's why I think I think I prefer it I it's because it stayed with me I was really my brain chose before I chose so I don't know if that makes sense but in the almighty no not the almighty carry the Genesis in the Genesis in P4 the song is timed such that it has the really like
Starting point is 02:34:01 big huge operatic kind of like big instrument P4 yeah P4 and then it gets quiet for quite some time and around a seven-minute mark it pops in with this super bombastic reach out to the truth remix yeah I was waiting for that with life will change and I never got it you got versions of it already but I didn't get it in the goddamn fight yeah you got it out I wanted yeah you got you got it outside of the fight before that moment now when and then you got it right as the fucking final finale credits cutscene was playing and and I love that as as your heists become more serious the vocals start to kick in and
Starting point is 02:34:43 you start getting the real life will change when you're doing your heist there is I think the game has one like genuine problem with their use of life will change when you go to raid a treasure Futaba's is perfect and so is I think Okumara's and maybe Matarame's where you get to the treasure and life will change starts to play you're like yeah and then you get to the treasure and then there's a whole other sequence after the treasure and it cuts the song off right but in some of them you're like yeah I'm doing I'm doing life will change that and then you teleport to the the boss room yeah and you just walk in
Starting point is 02:35:19 and then it gets to the core no and that's why I would run to the boss right every time on with the exception of like stuff where it was really far away like I don't know like the casino had its own theme as well but when you when you come back in for that final day and life has changed his fucking life will just blasting you have to run you can't teleport if you fucking teleported to the boss room you fucked up you gotta it push you got it like and you're and you're going through the music playing and you're rolling and every time you're you know you like even when you hit the save room the good the dialogue
Starting point is 02:35:56 continues and the music continues and you're like no no no no fuck that save room shit we're going for the treasure like you got to keep the attitude up and I feel that it's important to not skip and not teleport anyway the other part to the other part about it is that rivers in the desert is more appropriate for that fight well the problem is it's on multiple fights I feel it's more of a it's more appropriate as a boss theme for the two people that that share it three I think three is the grail have it you you get it yeah the grail you get it in the you get it at the pyramid yeah for the first time oh you get it the
Starting point is 02:36:36 pyramid is the first time you get that it's for then because the pyramid gets it I catch he gets it she don't gets it and the grail get it the first time you fight the grail okay at least thing I okay p5 where's it sit for you okay so here's just go for it okay so here's where let's let's break it down from there absolutely they all have their strengths and weaknesses I agree persona three the first time going through this nothing will ever beat the battle for everyone souls with nicks coming down on you it's nothing it's an astonishing final battle nothing will ever come close to not knowing what you're getting
Starting point is 02:37:22 into and getting the arcana as the means by which all is revealed the day man chose the fruit of the going through the whole thing that entire fucking story of the fool that he walks you through is the most persona thing in the world yeah and the versions of that you get in like for for example where it's just kind of like revealed it's not it doesn't have the gravitas that nicks has so that can never be topped the end battle the final fight of p3 is the best I will say that I didn't I never actually finished p3 because of the various reasons and spoilers and whatnot and even I will say that that final conference from you know
Starting point is 02:38:01 I looked it up afterwards that final confrontation and the way that nicks just pounds you into the dirt it's unbelievable it's and furthermore what nicks is saying to you is awesome it's fun it's represents the card switch that she that but it turns to each time and then the final one where no matter who you are death awaits you and then you get the death card like it's fucking just oh and then at that track remix at that point the battle for everyone souls is kicking in full volume it's the same song you've been hearing in the velvet room like the whole time but it better than ever and I know that the that that
Starting point is 02:38:38 came from previous personas as well so like even in the context of persona as an entire series that is special right you're using the song used in the velvet room as a whole that's p3 strength I will completely agree and the end state of minato yeah is the greatest thing yeah no other protagonists will ever touch that no minato sacrificing himself to hold back the fucking door that will end the world and that's this that's where we leave him you are no longer here because you are saving humanity in perpetuity forever nothing will touch that that's how I feel about p3 I think that p4 I think you're
Starting point is 02:39:20 completely right I think the p4's core strength especially in comparison to p3 not so much in the defy but I still think it's the best is the fact that p4's entire plot mystery etc is all moving towards a unifying villain and it has a real core villain that you have to deal with for the whole game and you might not know exactly who it is the whole time but you are dealing with their motivations and you do catch up to them the fact like p5 ends up having a villain behind the scenes but you're not actually dealing with them the whole game p4 is defined by we have to find the murderer of these people yes and
Starting point is 02:40:01 then when you reach that character yes their revelation of what has been going on culprits reasoning for being a murderer is the best ever that and so that's the thing for will never be touched as far as why is this happening why are people dying what is this absurd path we're following right oh it's that it gets so absurd and it gets more and more confusing to the point where you're like what the fuck could the grandmaster plan be here if there's no consistency nothing here lines up in a way that and that's any kind of like big pompous villain could step in and justify it with all humanity or
Starting point is 02:40:44 whatever right and then you get to fucking adachi well first you get to namatame and you realize oh shit he thought he was helping people oh that explains all of this right he thought all of that he thought he was saving people and that's why his attitude and why he was so weird about it then to begin with because he kind of thought he was crazy yeah but then you but you get to adachi and you go you know everything that's going on you've been orchestrating this what the fuck possible reason could you have because bitches man and you're like oh my god like the only reason why anyone would do
Starting point is 02:41:20 anything like this is because fuck you I can fuck you because fuck everything whatever and it because why not and it's I could do it why wouldn't I do it and you can't fight that reasoning nothing ever will be able to beat that and the problem with how strong that is a villain who's a villain because it's easy and and period and opportunity presented itself that's it right the right combination of opportunity and this guy's mentality came together and he just went why the fuck not and that is something that and that is so strong that no villain that comes from pompousness on high divinity or any sort
Starting point is 02:42:03 of mankind needs to be oppressed yeah we'll ever touch that which is great because you you deal with adachi and immediately afterwards you deal with that exact villain yeah who is so much less interesting than dealing with that's it like the overwhelming God force that wants humanity to obey its will doesn't have a candle to the simple basic man that is the most human thing ever adachi just being like because fuck it that's why any conspiracies any try to lay any attempts to link the story and make sense of this in your head you have to throw them out because he doesn't give a fuck and that answer is the only
Starting point is 02:42:41 acceptable answer for a story that gets as convoluted as p4 oh yeah so those two things are unbeatable and then you get to p5 and while it doesn't have nearly a strong I think a final despite being bigger and flashier there's only so many times you can do that exact same ending exactly for the final boss that being said it's really big and flashy and it's executed extremely well yes I love the fact that your social links have a because in every game when you get to the end I mean you have this the moment where your social links come and save you they all this time they take a highly active role in that process yeah which
Starting point is 02:43:21 is really awesome like that cutscene shot of like a Mishima going like you fuck this yeah yeah yeah like that's great everyone that you get up everyone that you max out is instrumental in changing the will of the people but I think that none of the villains are quite as high as the high that p4 reaches yeah I don't think that the final confrontation is quite as bombastic or enormous or or or important yeah as p3's and in fact did you play SMT4 yeah SMT4's final sequence is remarkably similar to Persona 5's it is the final dungeon even looks very going through heaven yeah fighting the angels fighting all four
Starting point is 02:44:08 angels is exactly how SMT4 played out now here's here's where it gets really funny and this is just an aside and I said this to William at one when we were off camera it is hilarious and ridiculous to me about the spoiler shenanigans and the blocking of footage and all that considering Persona 5 has the same ending as all SMT games all SMT games have the same and went so what and so all you can do is compare the two things that happen in every one of them which is the human villain the God villain that's right that's all you'll ever get right I mean sorry not you'll ever get but that's all you've gotten so
Starting point is 02:44:41 far so I think the human villain was the human villain is the human villain the human villains yeah are not as good as a dachi the the God villain is not as good as nicks however the God villains better than is an army and the human villains are better than better than Strega than Strega exactly so it's it's like it doesn't hit the heights of the others but the part in which each was weak it is it is much much stronger comparatively I think Shido sucks I don't know I like Shido I like Shido but I think Shido spent too much time doing the same thing yeah I think Shido needed a much more diverse like line of act timeline of
Starting point is 02:45:29 activity because his entire timeline was fucks you over you run into him and then he does nothing until the final act I have a very similar problem with the catchy I think a catchy should have been introduced as a as a party member yeah way earlier but way I know and I would have been really effective if they did that but they're afraid that your party layout would get fucked up and they wanted to really play up the Naoto Phantom Thief versus yeah Prince Detective I felt disappointed at how little of that versus went on well they played out for the course of fucking like six months though yeah but you don't
Starting point is 02:46:10 actually do much of it just it just happens on TV in the background like there's very little sequences in which you're actively trying to and he's showing up randomly around town here's the fun part pancakes is good but boy was it easy to spot here's the thing though fucking a catchy the giant light Yagami send up that he is I love him I love him because I like again the genius character the dude who's figuring it out he's way ahead of you all that stuff yeah and the basic the basic the reveal of Loki is fucking yeah that's great come on you know in P I don't know about P3 but in P4 Loki is the
Starting point is 02:46:48 persona you unlock when you max out the fool right it's a crazy strong full persona and you want to get it off the back and you're the trickster yeah and the ultimate trickster is fucking Loki right so you know you get a new persona in the form of our sale of pay who I believe was not in previous no no entries at all brand new yeah okay so I was disappointed that the way that our said came back wasn't more overstated in the sense that like he shows up for like that one second but then you immediately evolve so into choking the current like I and that was something that no other persona game did
Starting point is 02:47:27 which is fucking rad where the God boss is challenged by another actually in the persona for anime really that is the exact thing that happens they fight is an army with an act they're fine they fight what's his name I get suki what's he's an army no no the giant eyeball oh yes yes yes I fucking forget his name it's a Japanese name but everybody they there is a in the anime there is a sit because it's the end so bad in the anime the anime broadcast ends not the gold in the original of the original on fighting giant eyeball because the fight with is an army is only on the blu-ray Amino Segiri Amino Segiri thank you so
Starting point is 02:48:09 Mano Segiri is the end the canon broadcast ending and they have the big redemptive moment like everybody together but it's just the party it's not everybody yeah and he summons I believe it's Lucifer to to beat up Amino Segiri and it is highly similar to what you see okay where he's super huge yeah wrecks him in like a second no that fucking bullet to the head moment dude is so strong and like I'm it's disappointing that it talks after it gets shot in the head yeah because you just want that to be your fucking dead now right um the the I want to I want to dive into that moment a little bit more because it
Starting point is 02:48:55 represents one of my favorite things about SMT's view of like Judea Christian myth yeah and it's in SMT yeah where or so the fucking God Yalda Boa that's the fucking God of the Old Testament yes this straight up that's the guy well no because yeah where is the God of the Old Testament not and that doesn't exist in this universe anymore in Gnosticism Yalda Boa is the Old Testament God who created the universe materially but here is the God of control he's shown up in other one but we know already that the persona world as a whole exists because Yalda the biggest strongest being is no longer there Yalda Boa is also the
Starting point is 02:49:36 Demiurge who is a boss he's been a boss in SMT 9 as the Yalda Boa he's been a boss in Strange Journey as the Demiurge okay but but it can't possibly be on the level of Yalda Boa because it's the persona version created from human desires but what I mean is like that's the inspiration yeah okay okay okay I'm not talking about like so my favorite so but in the Persona universe like Lucifer is he's evil he's pretty evil but he's also portrayed as Prometheus okay because he stole or gave like free will causes evil Lucifer wants free will regardless of evil that's what the chaos endings are always about right and Satan ale is
Starting point is 02:50:15 just an is the angelic or demon lord version of Lucifer before falling right so all these times like well our sin is the greatest human trickster well set an ale is the great it's the greatest thief in all of rebellion right right right and he is that he is the mythical figure that stole it from the final boss that you are fighting he stole free will from control right and that is such a fucking great that's good that's good that's good I didn't catch it that's awesome one thing I love yeah yeah yeah when you when you use the lore that way one thing that was the most predictable fucking hack and I hack need called out thing
Starting point is 02:51:02 that still felt awesome was watching that bar hit a hundred percent so because the fucking entire time you're playing the game you know that the reason why you're staring at this is so that it'll manipulate your feelings so that oh no it went down all the things are down right it's been it's it's Facebook likes and then a video game and the whole start of that final encounter is like oh man people don't believe in the family yeah yeah yeah and then I'm and then I look and look at that I look over my girlfriend's like I want that bar not to hit a hundred percent I want that bar to explode exactly and that's exactly what
Starting point is 02:51:37 fucking happen why else would they have this bar staring at you for hours and hours right 99 to 130 and it's manipulating you and you know it is right and of course that entire one emancipation route of like the final end of mementos thing comes back in so everything about the what they like promoted the game on early does eventually come in because I was wondering I'm like when are you gonna get to that emancipation shit it's the end you know um and the whole thing too that really strikes me as like incredibly Japanese is you're staring at a bar that is literally the people's approval rating of
Starting point is 02:52:14 you yeah and what everyone else thinks and it's so weird to have only reform society if society loves you but it's the weirdest thing when your game your basic your the strongest thing you can do is reject everything and accept yourself and accept your own identity and that way you give way of your you give away your delusions and it all falls apart and you gain a persona right you've you've taken your flaws with your with your your positives and this is your right your real identity yeah there's such a strong message of individualism in that that then no no you're only individual for society your
Starting point is 02:52:57 your individualism it's such a strong that you then hunker that power to the will of the people and to still make it be something that has to tout how to what people believe it is weird because you came through that and like the idea the moment of breakthrough identity that everyone has is this ultimate great feeling badass thing and then you're just shackled back to everyone's opinions and there there is there is a point to that eventually because when you someone sat on a you don't have your mask on yes because that is supposed to be the into the reintegration of your external and internal selves into a unified
Starting point is 02:53:36 whole right right yeah there's a lot of people stories that like please don't take off my mask I feel like they go in this place and you can go you can go in for was was the worst it's like I'm gonna be independent and I'm gonna live my life the way I want by following the path that I was already gonna fall yes that was determined for me I've just decided I'm gonna like it that is a hyper Japanese I deal incredibly weird super weird and and I mean you know Yukiko gets the weird one I think now toe and kanji get the best one absolutely and in in p5 so here's the problem is I haven't finished everyone's s-links I
Starting point is 02:54:20 finished everybody except for tower hanged man give me names cuz I don't the gun store owner the arcade kid with get smoke same here I didn't finish him the Otsuya in the bar the reporter okay I finished everybody but there I finished oh yeah I'm missing I'm missing guns gun store owner I'm missing get smoked I'm missing Futaba okay I'm missing Futaba's is horrific it is the darkest one I'm missing you I went far in but I'm missing Yusuke I'm missing so Jiro's case fine so Joe's is really good I know I know and I think that's it okay I like now Futaba without even getting maxing that I already love it
Starting point is 02:55:14 the most there are everything about her storyline to me is is everything it's it's not cuz it's not just hers it's her reintegrating into society but it's also about her friend Kana and that shit is nightmare fuel that is the worst but you get to the part with her friend not really oh do you want to hear what it is sure so the the deal is is that so once she is somewhat fully reintegrated into society she can go out and she's over some of her anxieties she starts to lament her friend from middle school Kana Kana is it who she lost touch with and the reason why she lost touch with is that she found out that her that Kana's
Starting point is 02:55:52 parents were like molesting her and videotaping it for the internet and part of that quest is she tracks her down and then you go into mementos and you fucking solve those parents and then after that that problem solves itself and they they reconnect and they become friends again and it is it is horrific because the solution to the problem is you make them feel terrible about it and the parents like dream cells like we apologize we'll take good care of our daughter from now on and the characters are like yep so no no no holy fuck the jail it's so messed up get in the cave that this is this is a Japanese story
Starting point is 02:56:36 problem that shows up everywhere and a catchy is the biggest example that you have to see because a catchy is a violent murderer who has killed dozens of people and the instant he gets injured everyone's like oh no I can't see that's a huge anime problem it's like you forgive any but like Shido and and isn't the actual violent murder yeah because he doesn't have a sob story no one cares about you don't get that the and the especially hilarious part is what do you say to bad guys endlessly non-stop in anime I'll never forgive you that's unforgivable the unforgivable act is the worst they are willing they are willing
Starting point is 02:57:22 to forgive a catchy at the drop of a hat it was so not and and here's the thing is I saw that scene coming and I was like please don't overplay this accept his good deed to save you and be properly bittersweet about it don't be like no a catchy koon I think they overplayed a little but not to the point where it's a problem Haru has a line where she's like even though even though he was evil you killed my father yeah oh yeah even though you killed even though you killed my father like I you know like I can I like I can understand the circumstance or something along those lines I guess yeah that's what it was
Starting point is 02:58:05 right and I'm like okay right that's fine that's fine but yeah don't have the know a catchy koon moment because this this is the worst character in the game so far oh yeah he's horrible um he I can respect Cheeto more than a catchy because Cheeto's just a cutthroat fucking dude do anything goals and isn't a con about anything ever and a catchy is like pathetic I'm gonna do the worst things to get behind the scenes and then watch it all fall though I do like one thing about his his like freaked down or whatever the fuck where you beat him and you beat him hard and he's having a like a nervous breakdown I was like why
Starting point is 02:58:47 are you why are you better than me and like I'm standing there and going like we're super not better than you you're crazy crazy strong and have a bunch of abilities that we don't have yeah and I'm like but the characters will notice it and then the characters say it you're like no you're actually way yeah yeah but you it's just you against the eight of us what do you think we worked as a team that's literally all we had everybody always says oh it's because we worked as a team obviously but nobody actually admits like no if this was one-on-one you would have kicked our ass like no problem well the most
Starting point is 02:59:22 interesting thing that I was waiting to find out was when it was just the masked persona user the one of the black mask I the whole time I was wondering I was like this is someone who's doing a bunch of fucked up evil shit but they have a persona which means they don't have a palace which means they acknowledge themselves and they truly know what they are and there's no delusion in what they see in themselves for good or for evil like Loki only exists because that is actually what a catchy is like and that is actually a reflection of his personality and there's no delusion whatsoever and I'm like I thought they
Starting point is 03:00:01 thought that like that kind of character like had to be someone as smart as him yes absolutely the other thing to I guess is the well because we kind of got off track I feel because we are we're gonna get a lot of the strong parts of three are what we talked about with the end the strong parts of four are with the human villain but five blows three and four out of the fucking water when it comes to the end of the second act when it comes to the build up the blow out the heist right big the big climax before the the the epilogue kind of extra shit in three you have the show down you have the the Shinji moment and
Starting point is 03:00:44 then showdown with straga straight up lame which is just whatever it's normal it's normal RPG showdown right for you have that awesome stop who was it really which is probably the best moment in the whole game which is like and you're scrolling through the pages of names just like here's every character in the game with a name like I I forget how many pages it was like five it was just a giant list you know who it is think about this for real you're not an idiot gamer you're not an idiot there's no countdown there's no yeah this is like no shut up we have faith in you which is I always talk about it I was it I like
Starting point is 03:01:23 faith in the audience right and they displayed the ultimate thing of having faith in you to pick that right how do you beat that well you have characters that are smarter than you have characters that are like a catchy is already the most impressive thing from just being that deductive yeah the whole time to get everybody on board with this type of plan including fucking Ryuji the fucking casino heist and I can't I like and it's and it's portrayal in the story is fucking fantastic they so the problem with it it's a really intense in media res right it starts you like 80% through the game yes and you know well
Starting point is 03:02:03 how the fuck cuz how's your character how do you the player not know about it because you're hopped up on drugs and you're beaten up yes and you're in that exact moment you're hazy your whole game is forgetting the heist plan and how you faked your fucking death Machiavelli style wait I really need to was and you're trying to figure it out there was something else what was it right it's and you get to that moment and it goes down and you go my phantom thieves are not capable of this and then they go no we totally are the first thing you do is like did I fuck up and get the bad ending yeah and and the two and here's the
Starting point is 03:02:43 and the key the real keys are Makoto and Futaba it's there on that level it's it's their plan right Makoto has the means I mean I mean sorry Futaba has the means and Makoto has just the tactical genius I remember I remember when she grabs a catchy phone I had no idea what it was about but you knew it was like why did you just grab his phone you have not done that to you have not touched what are we running this cat in this game yeah that's weird and then they leave it for hours so I'm like okay I guess it's nothing yeah I didn't catch the pancakes pancakes I didn't catch the pancakes pancakes is too obvious you
Starting point is 03:03:23 caught it right away it's like he come on I I didn't catch the pancakes I'll tell you what I did catch was basically around the time of the school meeting where he's doing the thing and he's like the Fed if these are oh no my phone rang I'm like okay yeah right this is too suspicious and then he's going hey I'm gonna give you a break like that whole setup was so forced that I'm like okay it's clearly him but pancakes was a little too subtle for me I was and I think is too is that like I realized after that point that I wasn't paying attention to who was listening to Mona and who wasn't because there'd be so
Starting point is 03:03:58 many moments of just like so Jiro hanging out in the back while Mona's talking and he just doesn't react to it because why wouldn't but then the rest of the characters are having a one-sided conversation and like wouldn't he say something about that they're talking to the cat yeah so a catchy is is I love the fucking light Yagami character send up that he is and I love it down to the point where I'm gonna create problems and then solve them yes and to the point where when his face is melting with anger it's the exact same way that light Yagami's face falls apart at the end of death note and you only it's a payoff you
Starting point is 03:04:37 only get once the whole time he's in character and he's perfectly put together and when that melt that happens it feels good and he freaks out like like a champ that was awesome other notables I think you stay as the weirdo is I like they try they went really like they went far with his like non sequiturs but I'll take him way the fuck over Yuki Ko I think I think that overall the P5 cast is weaker than three and fours disagree I think the P5 cast is stronger I think they're fleshed out into like personalities that like they are not always to my taste right she is someone I like because it's to my taste but
Starting point is 03:05:30 outside of that going with their back stories individually I think about what each one went through and I mean even Ryuji's like track school shit where I'm like I don't care about this that much but it makes sense it's consistent and it like it shows me a lot about your personality alright well I think that we didn't necessarily get I think rather what I would say is that more of the P5 cast is not to my taste okay that's that's fine like there's too many people that I'm like I don't care about this shit right like like Haru is someone that is not to my taste but I actually liked her S-Link quite a bit but her story and
Starting point is 03:06:12 cat and character like and the development of like who she is and what she's dealing with is like fuck I think goddamn you're doing it like that is amazing I think we should all give a little clap for the best S-Link in the game which is temperance yep no question there it's the best S-Link in all of them that's ever been in all of them it's by far the best that you are never gonna beat Kawakami it's it's the greatest because everything about it every option you can choose every it's the it's amazing dude like the the guiltiest pleasure oh yeah of just calling her over every time every time
Starting point is 03:06:50 you call her over you're like who I'm calling over the teacher and you get to meet her for a full like couple hours yeah right and she's this and she's established is this like oh really fine don't do anything unnecessary 24 and I'm already a burnt-out teacher right you established this girl way early on in and it's not for any end game purposes it's just to make that S-Link better and it's because we stopped following her after that you know so fucking amazing man oh god and the fact that Ryuji pushes you into it and then it's too coward yeah and Mishima and him go hide out on the balcony yeah I like Ryuji
Starting point is 03:07:31 especially when I think about so will you and talk about comparing to previous games Ryuji in comparison to do I actually like them more than I think compared to yo skate come on as a best buddy Ryuji is way better than yo skate I actually compared to okay I'll give what's his name baseball Junpei Junpei stupid you mean Junpei fucking yo skate Ryuji here's come on man here's why I thought okay this is a weird thing with me and my perception for real hold on Ryuji is better than yo skate but when I when you get to yo skate he's such a quantum leap over Junpei that I kind of expected that and how much I would like
Starting point is 03:08:22 them I see but like it's like yeah no Makoto is more fleshed out than Mitsuru even though they're highly similar right very much don't care much for Ann that's fine I didn't care for her either I don't like that her they push it they push her too hard at the beginning this is an English thing or this is a not Japanese thing this is a guy Jin thing but the fact that her defining character trait and story is that she's not Japanese yes and I don't care they push her really hard at the beginning and I think that kind of made me go yeah you skate but he's no kanji or weirdo but yeah but Futaba's ace story line her
Starting point is 03:09:06 abilities her look Fuka can go fuck herself right holy shit Futaba right and just again she's the only one that gets a persona for a dungeon yeah yeah she gets an actual dungeon that's true she and like that part of the game feels like persona for and and you don't watch and you get to see like the progression from palace into persona like that's awesome great um not to mention the fact that it's undersold her entire like her story and like everything about her being a shut-in a hikikikoki koki kaki koki mori yeah I shut in I love that I love that they addressed that real issue yeah and like tied it in to like fucked up
Starting point is 03:09:54 plot shit great um Morgana is the best I want it if you want to talk about archetypes that are better than their former archetypes I love Teddy Teddy's great here's the problem oh Koremaru is flawless okay that's not fair that's and he's the analog that's not fair I know as Koremaru doesn't talk I know thus he's flawless okay but there's two things that are fucking amazing about Morgana one Morgana is Teddy was on the line of this is a cute mascot character but I'll live with it and yeah then you end up really really liking him Morgana never feels like that ever
Starting point is 03:10:35 Morgana is like cool right away like I love Morgana right away her voice her to her to her design everything about it that that she's a cat Morgana got on my nerves though yeah your Morgana got on my nerves every time we're gonna decided to tell you to go to sleep no well yes but also like no but like when it came to their events when Morgana was just like I'm feeling petty yeah and I'm gonna run off and I'm gonna be petty twice what was the second time it was it was an extension of the same thing but it was pretty much you know like I just kind of went like I was similarly like terrified of that arc that arc is super
Starting point is 03:11:15 short it is very it's like three in-game days but you just to compare them you know Morgana yeah Morgana beats Teddy and more more importantly we're gonna has no human form more importantly than I was really expecting Teddy is that Morgana is not Teddy yeah I was really and they seem to fuck with you on that with all of Morgana's flashbacks to well how I don't know what I really am yeah you think of Shadow Teddy they just gonna fucking do Teddy again like no hell no they're not gonna do it the complete opposite actually coming from room yeah how about that fucking Igor reveal the one that I got spoiled on the
Starting point is 03:11:54 day that's what it was oh man the name of that Twitter robot was called Igor and persona 5 is fake god damn it that sucks dude I didn't know because I was going through it like are they doing the thing where they hired a new voice actor because the old one died I assume that was a thing because it happened with that's a one and it happens you know does sound like Satan the whole time doesn't is weird yeah because the drop from like you know velvet man into like you have business with me so there was another hint that I wasn't aware of until I spoke to a friend about it which is highly important and we should have
Starting point is 03:12:39 caught it super early you can see it the very first time you go to the velvet room he's not the one fusing your personas if they are they are in all the older games Igor is the one who takes the cards flips the cards and fuses your personas I wouldn't I wouldn't yeah that was way too subtle for me in this one it's always Caroline and Justine I would have assumed it was a stylistic choice right but it's not right like it's it's it's perfect it's really really subtle Caroline Justine Theodore Mary Marie and the original what's her name Liz Liz Liz the best Liz the best yep still have been beaten Theodore's pretty
Starting point is 03:13:20 good Theodore's pretty good Margie's okay Poochie's Poochie where do you put oxymoron oxymoron well that's what their hat says you know the letters on their hats it's O Y O N and X it's every second letter when you put them together and it spells oxymoron that's pretty good yeah I hate Caroline and Justine they're the worst Levenson's okay Levenson's pretty good Levenson's pretty good Levenson's pretty good I don't hate Caroline and Justine I felt that they were pretty typical going like pretty typical like Sundari and whatever type I don't know when you call the other ones just so yeah it's what they're going for and
Starting point is 03:14:08 there and there's not much of a twist to it and it's they make you think there is a twist when you're building up that and that did you max them out I max them out and as soon as I max them out like oh there's split they're two halves the same person yeah sure like and they can't remember who wrote the list it was you when you were the same person but but but Levenza is dope I like how I think Justine's voice is Levenza's voice as well either way I like her design is cool and she looks like a proper velvet room attendant absolutely like I really like not happy with the butterfly fake out the butterfly you lead led me to believe
Starting point is 03:14:42 that is filimon of course it's filimon that's what it always is but it's not it's just Levenza yeah it's like but this is I want to go back to but but why would filimon be hanging out in a fake velvet room well it's a real velvet room it's just got a fake inhabitant master I guess I look so they're it but that butterfly there is an implication sure because I mean it was it was her in the reveal when it pops up and goes Bob hey I'm Levenza but no it's always yeah no they even flashback to times that you saw the butterfly like in the in the prison yeah you know you choose your teacher they do there is one thing that
Starting point is 03:15:21 is implied here about the level of scale and persona 5 compared to the others is that you you fight fucking Margie and Elizabeth in in Secret Bosses in the other games and you always get this this feeling of like the people who live in inside the velvet room are fucking freaks they are hey guess what they are deities can I interrupt you yeah new game plus yeah I know I know you fight Carly just of course of course you do of course you do okay I didn't even need to know that like obviously it's always the but they're fucking freaks right and Igor is the biggest freak of them all and the guy you're dealing with just
Starting point is 03:15:55 kicked his fucking ass out the door I think there's a guide yeah so like the dude you you dealt with in this game yeah but I mean but like so here we go like collective unconscious desire of of the end collective unconscious desire of control and I forgot what I meant a security was four was collective unconscious desire for something else but I was some kind of vein yeah it was very similar actually in the end to p5's like just live your life become shadows but but but the stakes have never felt higher than five because in five you're actually in downtown yeah I really so in four you got the shot of like are we
Starting point is 03:16:43 actually above yeah yeah yeah and in five you're like no we're in Shibuya and this is fucked and you have that great moment of like it's no and all your slings are like it's nobody else yeah yeah and that is so that's the one thing that's really really satisfying is I mean a Sigeris lies yeah right everybody wants lives line to the what's incredibly satisfying is the not only the moment of like hey Shido comes clean yeah not only the moment of you get to be proven right and you get to make this lavish music video for the Phantom Thieves zooming in on your bodies and showing what are you gonna do about holy
Starting point is 03:17:22 fuck that is ridiculous if you don't if you like pretend that no one's tailing them and follow it while they are tailing them as we find out but the idea that like during the time when when Joker's dead that they wouldn't be like already kind of trying to assassinate or at the very least super shut down these kids and not let them make their moves but it seems like but the way they wrote that one off is that a catchy must not have reported those identities yeah he kept them to himself he only had the Joker's so anyway um the fact that everyone in the end sees the horrible monster and understands the stakes is
Starting point is 03:18:00 incredibly satisfying only for a time because if only for a time but the secret hero thing sucks and this is the one time you get to feel it a little bit yeah Ryuji got his his moment of like yeah everyone loves this moment usually I would hate this but they actually nailed it they totally nailed it they give you a situation which Ryuji gets his straight-up hero moment and it looks like he died yeah that's true it really actually looks like he died yeah I did and he just walks in a frame he's like I'm fine like ah you got me there's still more bosses to beat so Ryuji can't leave and you need thunder and they fucking
Starting point is 03:18:42 got me they kick my ass and then you get all the way to the end and you you're starting like Mona's talking weird when you talk about beating the boss and in like the lead-up yeah and you beat the boss and Mona's giving the speech and you're like oh man and then Mona just disintegrates away yeah and it is it is final very much like why does it take so long for of all the characters unlocking their abilities fucking Masio dying took forever man it was a weird one everyone got their shit because he's he's a more physical attacker than a magic okay so bosses battle designs all that logic um that everybody has a
Starting point is 03:19:27 strength or weakness that battle system and the amount of options oh man the is like I want to say I want to say that the party is way better balanced than they've ever been the parties in three and four like there were some real winners and losers when you lose a catchy though you have no compensation for it except yourself well the main thing well the catchy uses abilities that you almost never get a catchy has goddamn all mighty abilities yeah but Koro had dark yeah but he didn't else I have light did he no I don't think so it was like like he should have a catchy has goddamn all mighty abilities like he
Starting point is 03:20:01 has light dark and Maggie that that right there is like oh he's not sticking right he'll whatever happens he's not gonna be in the next dungeon like he's super good he's really strong that and the nose should have given it the clue you know off more than anything although his all-out attack win right where he fucking drops does the little Michael Jackson spin and like he does a full-on Michael Jackson it's great Makoto's is the best of course I will give you skate second place yeah it's really good Morgana sitting and turning around in the chair those are my top yeah just the fusion stuff in this game at it is it
Starting point is 03:20:45 is a minor mechanical detail that makes all the difference the addition of the gem persona yeah the farm persona dude such a big deal you can just make them and and it makes fusion a lot easier because you go to your fusion calculator and it's like fuse this persona with Queen's necklace and it just levels up that type yes yeah whatever that was really good what else is there I guess yeah Haru Zedir was pretty good too with the coffee Haru got undersold her abilities were incredible though she was essential on my team she gets placed so late having the anyone who gets the cars is on my fucking front line I'm just
Starting point is 03:21:28 saying like for her story it's a shame she gets there so late and unlike Naoto you have not been dealing with Haru the whole game right now don't get a ton of scenes furthermore Haru should be a villain based on like everything about her backstory yeah I guess but you don't get that Joe somehow but she's not right shout outs to Bay having a motorcycle I wish it could stay a motorcycle almost want to dump her just so that it goes back to becoming one that's fucked but so be it that's fucked up uh how could you dump someone because they aren't a motorcycle anymore no because their mind is in the
Starting point is 03:22:08 motorcycle I don't get it that fucking Shido boat was really long and it went on forever and by comparison the other two final dungeons are really short yeah and perfectly paced but that song kept me going because I love and I but I wanted the song with his blaring voice over yeah you only get that yeah warning the speakers going society needs to live up to an idea the yak is a guy that you run into is a fun little joint all right let's let's get to the brass tacks Christmas what about Christmas who'd you take to Christmas I only had one choice who'd you take to answer the question my
Starting point is 03:22:54 Christmas list pops up and says what should I do on Christmas and it's like hang out with Makoto do nothing and I chose Makoto and we spent time together and then it was great all right so I chose to hang out with Kamakami from all of the options that's all right that's a fun from all of the options you know it's like how many options were there Pat everybody but devil everybody but devil didn't want didn't want didn't want to go hang out at crossroads oh yeah it's terrible it's fine I didn't get very what about hold on hold on wait wait wait wait hold on stop stop stop I didn't get very far
Starting point is 03:23:36 interesting you're a fucking Misato lover why wouldn't you like oh yeah no I'm not you like Misato she's fine you're a kaki girl a guy whatever we're talking about Ritzko no Oscar oh true twin tails and red-headed fucking yeah all right fine dating a bitchy redhead right now I forgot yeah okay you crazy because if you like him if you're a Misato type then you're absolutely gonna go for oh yeah you know yeah she was fine figured like well it's the last it's the last time last time I'm gonna see any of these people who deserves it the most it's so what happens with Kawakami so it's it's it's you know you talk to
Starting point is 03:24:21 her and you have a nice night and then she's like does it bother you that I'm way older and your character has a moment where they reflect on the fact that they're going to jail yep and anything you choose she's like oh I guess it does bother you and she lets herself out oh yeah oh interesting it's not great and she gives you your Christmas present now and I'll be on it and and so and then the question becomes after you're out of jail who did you take on Valentine's Day now that's what I was about to ask about because I had a lovely little Valentine's Day with my girl where'd you go you hung out LeBlanc I guess we what
Starting point is 03:25:02 do we do yeah we hung out at LeBlanc and it was a nice little time so she gave me a gift and it was great she laid her head on my shoulder so I want to I want to mention something about this the game does its best to just hit you with it because you're you're hanging out with Si right and you're you're like you're hanging out with Si and you get the text message from your girls should I cue up the Valentine's Day massacre right now you're gonna turn yourself in you get the message from your girl say hey you want to hang out yeah and then you have the options like I need a little more time I need a second right but when
Starting point is 03:25:36 you're in the dirtbag path like I was your tech your phone just starts like going nuts and it's just okay you read it and you close it and then you get another one you close it and you just and that happens again for Valentine's Day and it's just like okay so you don't even like respond to any of the people you just okay who you spend Valentine's Day and I just thought I was gonna spend time with Futaba because I'll be honest after after Kawakami started giving away for free it wasn't interesting it didn't cost 5,000 anymore once once now that it ain't caught now that it doesn't fucking cost me a half piece once once
Starting point is 03:26:28 it oh shit once it stopped being a screwed up it wasn't as fun anymore you weren't paying for it and you gotta think about the future oh fuck you leave Kawakami cuz she's all old and shit and worn out and you move on to the new hotness that's gonna last longer which is Futaba mm-hmm and she needs you she's yeah she can't go outside and how did that go no I actually I actually genuinely like Futaba's character a lot but like like besides the I think her design is the best she's good she's the coolest like the style she's wearing is fucking but besides your phone exploding what happened so you spend a nice
Starting point is 03:27:07 romantic day with Futaba and you hang out it's very romantic and she tries she tries this stupid shit she learned on the internet and it's really embarrassing but it's sweet right and Futaba gets a special thing that nobody else gets because she walks in that's true because when you walk back from Valentine's with Makoto you walk in and Futaba and so you are hanging out at Leblanc right so I was immediately wondering what the fuck happened so here's her futah so the boss is telling you like that so it's Valentine's Day huh oh man when I was your age all the girls and then Futaba walks in goes hi
Starting point is 03:27:49 and he's like oh girl I'm getting out of here right okay and there's that really so when you fit when you because when Makoto walks in he goes oh by the way all right finish so Joe's s-link yeah I don't know if this is because I had already maxed out other girls s-links but he like pulls you aside and be like okay dude can you can you not like fuck around with Futaba she's like my daughter can you not fuck that up oh and back my head I'm like it's too late it's too late in there done that taught me how to make coffee too good that curry too good though
Starting point is 03:28:26 too good you screwed up okay so yeah so he leaves and so she's like that's a little awkward and then you have your nice moment right and then it goes to the 15th yeah and you're just hanging out at the store because you got to work there that day so you have to work at Leblanc and everyone knows you're gonna be working at Leblanc that day yeah and he's like oh man just you know supposed to give the guys their chocolates and then he goes out to get something I think and he runs back and he's like dude and he's like about to yell run and then it just cuts to a splash cut in everybody in there and they're like out of school
Starting point is 03:29:06 clothes and they're all standing there with chocolates and there they're every single every single one goes down it's like you told me you were busy and I came by Leblanc and I saw you with that other girl so you already had a favorite hunt and they all have one by one they all have really really good ones so probably the doctors is the best like oh it's my guinea pig been getting out to play or whatever and they're all like fucking crazy pissed and then so Jero's like oh I gotta get away from this and your characters just like and they're like you're not gonna say something here here's your fucking
Starting point is 03:29:46 chocolate they basically all just go here's your fucking chocolate you get the items anyway and they they're they're like handing them out to you and you're given a couple options as to what you can say because so there's a hey man say something say say say something and you have a couple options I forget one of them I think one of them is like I love all of you or what I or it's not what it seems option two is I was at I would the reason why is I was at the store helping so Jero and the third one which is the one that I picked because it's so good is I do want that chocolate and then and then they all go crazy and they beat
Starting point is 03:30:28 your ass in that Ryuji type way and then it fades out you fade back in and you're on the ground you're on the floor just your ass is kicked yeah and then so Jero comes in he goes fine here you go and he tosses a bonbon on the on the table and you get so Jero's chocolate takes pity on you and then and here's the best bit and here's why so Jero is the best character in Persona 5 so Jero goes okay so I spoke with them I got it so we're gonna have to get our story straight and I had to spin a huge ass web of lies but trust me they all know that they're the one and only I got you we'll just have to talk later and we'll
Starting point is 03:31:12 get this all sorted out so that's why even though that disastrous event happened you all the ending sequences can play out with everybody and everyone's normal because so Jero fucking patches it up I just gotta keep this going for man he's gonna be out of here I'm gonna be gonna be out of here I just have to judge that van rides gonna be tough that that cross-country chip that's gonna be tough right where do I sit but so Jero patches it that saves it what a fucking boss the best dude what a boss the game punishes you in the worst way possible and you're like oh man I'm gonna lose out on all their benefits
Starting point is 03:32:02 everyone hates rogero but no rogero came through save the day that's incredible even though one of them is his daughter and here's the thing I wonder if it would be different oh my god cuz the way that it played out the way that that futaba is the one you care about and everybody else is you was fucking around and I wonder if it would play out differently because you're because he has like all give a break because he's actually in love with the dog and that'll be a real yeah I wonder if it would actually turn out differently if it was anybody it probably does but for my in my game it
Starting point is 03:32:45 worked out perfectly but you're just but it's like he doesn't think for a second you're just lying to everyone including him no cuz he used to be that way when yeah well and when his girl is involved even but he's gonna accept the fact that it's like no no that's the real love right there yeah it's fine holy shit that's so good god like honestly in terms of romance options I felt like this game was super weak like I really like futaba and kawakami but like and sucks how is sucks ah yeah so I was talking about your school I was talking to Brennan about this and he like he's like he pointed out I'm like yeah there's no
Starting point is 03:33:29 wrong answers here honestly I disagree I think there's no wrong answers I think like there's something appealing in each case but I think tastes are tastes and here's here's where I'm gonna say something controversial that you're gonna come at me for so I'm excited to see this I think that Makoto is the worst romance option in the game conclusively not just from a taste perspective but from a moral perspective as well from a moral perspective as well and the reasoning is as such it is screwed up it is screwed up that what's going on pet you listen you listen I there's there's a ironclad
Starting point is 03:34:11 logic here it's screwed up to date and start a relationship with a girl when all you can think about when you're smashing her is her way hotter sister that's a screwed up thing to do okay listen that's a screw listen listen listen fuck off every time I hung out the fuck up time out I shut the fuck up every time you hang out with a photo of Sajima okay thinking about his man this is the wrong sister listen Sai is is fucking great right Sai is immaculate and you said earlier that Makoto is like a more fleshed out Mitsuru yeah that's because Sai is really mature that's right as an adult yeah right that's fine
Starting point is 03:34:48 that's great and whatnot you couldn't even remotely handle size sorry single you're living in your sister's shadow even now wow yeah okay the same anyway we're not listen that's unfortunate that you are so obviously overshadowed by some girl who's living in the same house listen all I'm gonna say is you get to see what shadow sigh looks like yeah and you get to see what persona Makoto looks like yeah I'll rather like whatever it like like trickster Makoto looks like and between the two I'm going with the fucking knuckles leather suit k a scarf and mask I think that's the shit that's fine your taste sucks fuck
Starting point is 03:35:34 you how dare you maybe if you grew up there you sister you'd be more attract oh that's what it all comes down to that's what I actually just like so I way better she's a yeah I am disappointed that she is not any more involved as like I'm disappointed she's a story as like and not a actual she's the most because she's the most no-nonsense no-nonsense like fucking and I and character and like in all of the games I can think of like her heist moment when when she she flips over the fucking thing and it's her that's the that's the best moment of the game that's the most exciting moment the whole
Starting point is 03:36:09 game what you when she gets the calling card no when she when she's talking to you and she says then your next target was me yeah yeah yeah so great that is that is a that is a fucking strong one because you're going through all these random Joes and people and stuff and you're just like and then your next target was some business man yeah you're like okay fatty guy all right we're doing that what'd you end with your stats on my my personal stats yeah they're all max okay just yeah all right there's a certain way like early on I realized like studying at certain times a day and stuff like that like but the
Starting point is 03:36:49 getting four to five I don't know if it was this long in the older games but it felt like it took absolute goddamn forever to actually fucking do that also there are a huge amount of stuff that I missed not just a couple of slanks like I didn't go to the gym until like the last three days oh god fuck it I for what HP why it increases your HP and overall but you don't need that when you have a fucking so here's here's here's the problem there's more like I didn't realize you could decorate your room with bullshit until the oh yeah yeah I misclicked the bed I hit the shelf and went oh what the shit yeah no that
Starting point is 03:37:24 happened to me with the other shelf next to the TV where you get like DLC items and stuff but no the the the the items you encrypt first of all it's like one why waste your money upgrading a gun for extra money from fucking the the Airstop shop when you're never gonna really use it for damage like that you are all you're only gonna use it for a tight weaknesses exactly and then you're gonna get personas that do gun attacks and you're never gonna use that shit again yeah um god fuck yeah and the second thing was as soon as you get SP adhesive 3 why at least for me anyway it was done that carries you all the way
Starting point is 03:38:06 until she does pal until never I never took I never took it off the thing when I when you far there was never a better item there's one better item and it's divine pillar divine pillar is the accessory you get from beating Reaper and it halves all damage but makes us you can't evade okay and if you fuse if you fuse Satan which you can only do a level 92 yeah and turn him into a black robe and turn him into a chest item you get you get one you get a no you get a tantric oath which is the male chess piece and it's got 272 events and has a property of magic resist high with those two on the final boss is like mega beam
Starting point is 03:38:54 attack was hitting me for under a hundred holy shit I stomped that motherfucker okay and that and remember you keep your equipment yeah so you just so at some point you decided to just fucking FAQ mint like min max I just asked a friend of mine okay I was like oh what are these black robes for he's like oh you can turn him into chests do you have Satan like I do have Satan's like well you can turn that one the best cuz I remember when you were having your panic attacks about how to spend your days yeah that was early that was early and if you managed to get all but like three in there I mean time is generous as long as
Starting point is 03:39:28 you crush those palaces one day so I really thought that we were gonna come out of mementos and get a chance to solve some of those extra stuff because I had I had like I had all my mementos cases solved did you yes okay I had all of those can say a salt and then the last second one popped up which was or whatever right and it was just like at down the last day and then fuck you we have to go into mementos today and then that was the end of it and I was like god damn it and what am I supposed to do that one so that sucked it shows up on like 1211 earlier if you have all of them complete I think yeah um pretty good
Starting point is 03:40:04 game overall yeah really like driving around mementos and having the little conversation moments yes reminds me of the skits in the tales games stuff and those things go on man in fact a lot of times they go on too long because you hit an enemy or you attack and you miss the second line it's like okay I'll just say yeah you miss the second line but yeah it's like Ryuji and Mona singing I've been working on the railroad and shit like that just like all these nice little character moments that you wouldn't get otherwise because you need to need some downtime I am so happy with the structure of this game I think I think
Starting point is 03:40:37 percent of five it has a lot of strengths but I want to say that it's bigger strength over like it can't beat the final encounter for three and it can't beat the villain from four but on everything else it excels exactly the other two and I mean everything and that's why and that's why it's a combat visual yes but like game structure which normally wouldn't be that important in this game it's really important mementos as the side area side Tartarus as the one randomized piece that you spend about half of your dungeon time there compared to the highly produced like thematic dungeons fucking perfect yeah
Starting point is 03:41:15 like absolutely great and just and again the fact that like you go through it and you look at all of so all the stuff that when you when you compare three and four that we mentioned that are just that are the better the best in three it's the reason why it's the best to reiterate here is because of the surprise which you can never recreate and in four it's the best because there's no better there's no other motivation that will trump because fuck it right so those two are like again it's unfair you can't win against those unless you just do them again p5 had some problems and that the coolest thing was the thing with
Starting point is 03:41:48 the side like the casino everything about yeah that's the cool and that's the end of the second night like that whole sequence is the best part and then Shido is the second best part and then the stuff of the Holy Grail is the third best part and how they would have gone like not the events but the yeah would have gone in that opposite order how about Masayoshi Samayel Shido right fuck off like shirt off I am just gonna if I'm he's just gonna be standing here and realize that you're just like him really stupid thing but what I was actually so the Holy Grail keeps talking about ruin yeah ruin is I was hoping that the
Starting point is 03:42:32 game was gonna go to a place and you get the grill and he's like this is all pointless and you're like what and it goes to a cutscene in which the earth has a nuclear holocaust and it's like well SMT-1 was happening and you weren't paying attention oh yeah and then the the issue is that you have to somehow undo that but I they're not gonna mix those two ever again it doesn't seem like but no but I'm good to get back what I was saying there's that like you see shadow Shido and it's like yeah okay Emperor man riding on the Beast of Sacrifice you mean Char riding the Beast Char riding the Beast of Sacrifice super
Starting point is 03:43:07 cool looks he's so he's just Char it's not with the spiky helmet yeah but um Beast of Sacrifice is amazing but when it comes apart and he's just arm strong yeah and then you're like what's this bullshit on your body it's like no that's just for his flex he was getting a pump in before you wanted to crush you his whole thing is I'm a businessman that loosened up my shirt to crush you but I beat him and he's like okay fine I'll take the pumps off yeah that was great that was fucking great man you can't so yeah it can't it doesn't beat three or four in the ways that in their strongest moments but it beats them
Starting point is 03:43:43 everywhere else yeah it's more even game more even game I feel like three and four both had sequences which were just very long and very and then add the online mechanics not as bad as they sounded on paper I was worried about a lot of my implementation yeah the thieves guild was really fun the best part about the thieves guild is cheating on your tests cheating on your tests second best part is I got a spare persona I don't give a fuck about it and its levels are worthless and the third best is you hit it every day and you go wait hanging out with who who is that who is that yeah yeah yeah yeah that was that
Starting point is 03:44:22 as fun what the fuck am I missing I saw going to the gym really early and I was like there's a fucking gym I it's locked what it was I know you have to get to Ryuji's point where they would do that shit yeah shady commodities made a comeback under cover fucking silk road silk road Tanaka Tanaka is the only guy that you got to see three of these right and like I love that's like okay the end of s-link in p3 he you know a little bit of a change of heart but not really and then four it's like nope still scumming it out yep and five it's like that meant nothing he is now kind of out of favor and is now selling
Starting point is 03:45:16 illegal shit underground it's like his his personal arc meant nothing met nothing because he's the devil and and Minato Minato meant nothing to him yeah you know so while I appreciate it that I don't know how much I feel about it I'm a little disappointed that there was absolutely no interaction with anything from the prior games there was only the TV stuff only the tea and it's like I could I thought we were gonna run into reset and condom in when we went to the fucking TV oh yeah no because that would be the most obvious time I was actually expecting that the girl from the beginning would come back in any
Starting point is 03:46:02 shape or way shape or form the girl who you start saved technically oh yeah well she doesn't come back in the in like an off-screen kind of way you know but yeah there are some weird problems with the plot that my girlfriend pointed out where it's like why are you leaving it's like well I gotta go back and live with my parents like the parents don't give a shit about you that didn't call you a single time all year like yeah actually yeah you know the friends that didn't write all like because you're a disgraceful criminal why you're not a disgraceful criminal and you can live in society again so yeah like so Joe's
Starting point is 03:46:42 your real dad just like Piccolo basically better dad yeah that's real even though he gives you shit at first and you drive slowly he's got the fucking hat okay I'm trying if you're if you're a big old man slut he saves your dick that is the coolest thing I can't believe that happened I'm just trying to like last minute rack for anything like yeah like I mentioned it last week but like there's the cool little NPC stories that lead up to their own yeah they've done really good right like black guy outside the club learning to speak English was my favorite I really like they they all got their stories wrapped up like I
Starting point is 03:47:19 talked to everybody in that victory lap that fucking made cafe it was the weirdest shit I never went in there you never went in one ever went in there you believe you there is always a better use of your time that is that like if you want to like min max your time that is not a good well which one did that build the fucking you can choose there's multiple okay because that like kindness is better at the fucking plant store and your fucking plant yeah but the problem was that I was trying so hard to get up like guts and the shit to get to talk to Makoto it was guts and something else that I was just like I was wasting days
Starting point is 03:47:52 I could have been hanging out with people yeah I was wasting hangout days to get her up so the the main and so cuz I wanted her first I guess I guess let's talk about new game plus then I haven't started it I will eventually do it it is an aggressive new game plus you keep your money equipment compendium personal stats and game time I'm not the type that's gonna I probably not gonna do it I'm probably just gonna I'm probably gonna go I'm not gonna do it for a couple years yeah and then when I feel like we're doing the replay I will have an easy ass time doing the replay yeah I'll do it if like you know so let's
Starting point is 03:48:31 say like my girlfriend's going through it or something or whatever but like for me personally I'm probably just gonna go watch what I missed and then tap out until a re-release of some kind so I really hope with different concept six using all of these assets like they did with three and four I mean I would love for them we don't need a new engine we don't need a new system we don't need a new engine for any atlas games for years now because they made everybody man there are so many demons in this game yeah they got all the they're all there they're all there even even weird like Satan's in there which is why Alice is
Starting point is 03:49:03 in there which is why like when you look at like that that switch trailer or whatever it's like yeah you just grab those assets okay we've made them it's fine and they all have they'll have one animation and I forgot which angel it is but one of the angels has a fucked up animation where his arm clips in like and like there's no tweening on it it just clips right to the last frame so I'm like okay you didn't you didn't QA all of this but there's thousands so well that's pretty much all I got to say that's a good game yeah man I'm sure more will come back but right now as far as letting off the head that's a stellar
Starting point is 03:49:36 stellar video game and this and Zelda and near have made in my mind like the most competitive game of your discussion in like a decade well more just how about we just like give it up for 2017 and it ain't even done yet yeah I know but what I mean is like this is like cuz I was talking with some friends the other days like oh well hey Pat what was your game you'd be personified what would you what's your favorite game was Zelda this or here yeah I don't even know how to start that conversation and I haven't felt like that in a while cuz usually it's like no it's this one you know what I'm gonna do actually I'm gonna load up the
Starting point is 03:50:11 save and go back and reread Futaba's explanation of the heist I need to just go back and reread that text okay so there's a phone and a phantom world we got to the thing and then you got shot and then there's a dummy shot into the cognition in the discus like the just the everything the everything that went into that yeah right all right I hope you guys enjoyed the spoiler cast oh by the way I tweeted I retweeted something that yet you should you should yeah that's the ultimate send off for purr purr P5 after all these years you go back it's called reti RT to die instantly go watch that tweet it's a good tweet
Starting point is 03:50:51 there's good things in it where I find that on my Twitter willy-wills it must have been like a day or two RT to die instantly watch it it's the persona intro remixed it's very cool what's this remixed music remixed visuals you'll like it goodbye everybody oh I saw that that's good yeah goodbye goodbye Makoto sucks ah did I get it did I get it in time I'm not closing this mic until we fucking figure this shit out sir okay well yeah all right compared to who to no one to nothing her sister that is not a choice in the game doesn't matter I hate your entire existence yeah I wish you were never so here's the thing
Starting point is 03:51:37 if side didn't exist Makoto would be great but because there's a better version of the same thing right there even if you can't have it it sucks fall in a well and die screaming it's like if you had a gameboy and you had an atomic purple gameboy that other gameboy sucks because you want that atomic purple it's now it's never and I've got to make my decision this time it could be my moment at this a mirage or a chance to fulfill my mission a river in the dry land the leftist in the lost land a hurt before he met always just a change land I'm giving the balance but I'm landing on razor's edge now work
Starting point is 03:52:59 with woman life is over when strike just a pain then I'm out of his field of vision don't ask I'm ready but I'm ready to strike them down now I just saw the new stars there's no time for in this a river in the dry land the leftist in the lost land when I hop off new beginnings burn off deep now we needed a heartbeat for demon always just a change land remind us we'll hear a ball bring it in new life bring it and build us in the desert my heart is a furnace had a sale in my word of conflict one goes what keeps me going take back when I lost to the bosses of greed and fear it don't ask I'm ready but I'm ready
Starting point is 03:54:41 to take them down now just like for a new start it's constantly drawing nearer river in the dry land the leftist in the lost land when I hop off new beginnings burn off deep now we needed a heartbeat for demon always just a change land remind us we'll hear a ball bring it in new life bring it and build us in the desert yeah when a cool drop of warm air suddenly you gotta clear my head of anger and greed a place to refresh heart of mine can I find some time
Starting point is 03:56:14 when I hop off new beginnings burn off deep now we needed a heartbeat for demon always just a change land remind us we'll hear a ball bring it in new life bring it and build us in the desert yeah

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