Castle Super Beast - SBFC 212: "This Time We'll Add Actual Gameplay"

Episode Date: August 29, 2017

Woolie is missing and presumed dead in Europe. Matt got to go to DogCon, and Pat tries to make sense of Lynchian madness. You can watch us record the podcast live on twitch.tv/superbestfriendsplay M...arc Laidlaw Outlines what Half Life 2 - Episode 3 Would Have Been Yakuza Devs are busy, making Fist of the North Star, Yakuza 2 Kiwami, Shin Yakuza and Yakuza online. Possible Bethesda Game of Thrones Game? Menat Revealed for Street Fighter V FF15 Nude Mods Will Be Left Up to the ‘Moral Sense’ of Players FF15 Crossover DLC with Assassin's Creed Sexy Star is a jabronie mark without a life that don't know it a work when you work a work and work herself into a shoot, mark Secret of Mana remake incoming next year Crappy youtube channel discovers lost game Death Cargo Darkwood devs put the entire game on the Pirate Bay White Day 2 Announced Rune Ragnarok Announced  

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Starting point is 00:00:00 oh boy I forgot to turn Audacity on oh that's a good one so I want to give a big shout out oh hey Matt how you doing no one's listening to this anyway that's fine all those little SOB's oh no don't meadow what meadow I wish you wouldn't say that nah I won't listen to the podcast SOB's oh boy oh no what what's not on nothing there's no audio okay I'll just do that over oh no on this is getting picked up in Audacity there's no audio on the stream so there yeah so what I would like to give a big shout out to mr. Woolley because oh did I not move the logo oh god oh this is I'm breaking down all the walls just just taking one
Starting point is 00:01:05 step okay I think I fixed it hey so we try and keep the podcast and stream experience separate for everybody at home yeah but since Woolley is out getting it's really good though it's a really good joke it's a really good joke but we're just not gonna not gonna do it he's getting something taken care of in Amsterdam you know better his life and whatnot we're gonna like lighten up his life lighting up his life he has left the podcast to our semi-capable hands grimy clutches with a somewhat freaked my shit out 60 bullet point list of things to do yeah but like I was saying this one if I go on the street and I
Starting point is 00:01:56 grab a child by the by the caller and I'll say make it let's play now yeah upload it it would be like a 70 oh yeah like every every step of like go into the DivEx code click it and do the 7800 kilobytes for these are the 720p yeah so it's you know yeah but we're just not used to doing it hey man how you doing what up man I'm okay you doing good still thank everybody listen to this podcast a bunch of SOPs what no I mean yes probably everyone this is a podcast SOPs why would you listen to a podcast such as this oh also before we we keep going congrats to Willie for not missing a single podcast in 211 episodes with
Starting point is 00:02:37 your streak finally broken at 212 you are now dead to the podcast world your terrible podcast if it continues without him that means it's fine is it not what do you mean like if he's dead right now no like if if let's say he's a good podcast man if even if he's not here he was able to convey enough information for to continue unabated oh yeah like if the podcast comes out at all yeah so if you're listening to this Willie did okay job so like if a captain dies or like just leaves or just sleeps a whole bunch in a ship yeah so the other guys should have known enough by example so the captain's like a sleep drunk at the
Starting point is 00:03:18 wheel in a different country yeah and he's like you got this and we're like no and then the ship doesn't you're a bad leader oh boy hey Matt what's up man tell me about some shit that's great so watch death note yeah so I didn't watch death note but I saw some pieces of death note I'll I'll put the preamble in front of things I don't think death note is like all that great it's a decent anime I watched I enjoyed and that was about it now I'm gonna assume you're talking about the new yes I'm talking about I'm talking about the new American adaptation but I'm talking about the original anime I was like yeah it was
Starting point is 00:04:00 pretty good it's fine I didn't care for any of the Japanese movies they're just like almost any live-action adaptation of any anime it's usually like even if it's made by whatever countries they're not great but I heard that anime is terrible no no no so I watched it and I had there's thoughts certainly going through my head and one of them is that it's a terrible adaptation of any source material right and is inferior to the the anime right like in terms of in terms of its overall story progression well I mean I haven't watched it but isn't the anime like 50 episodes long I think it's less than that okay I can't
Starting point is 00:04:45 remember I thought it was like 24 25ish maybe maybe 30 out of 90 to 200 well they only do a certain part of it but here's the thing is that like my two positive thoughts is that if you're gonna remake anything you got to be very different while so retaining the core like story beats like guy gets this does this with that and this happens right so as like a remake like there's there's a remake there reminds me of let the right one in or let me in is the American it's the exact same movie yeah it goes they just change it from like Swedish to English the Swedish I think it's in Alaska no it's in New Mexico even though
Starting point is 00:05:28 there's snow everywhere I don't maybe they're on the mountains I forget but it's exactly a movie beat for beat they speak English that's the only real difference right so this is like it takes a like it is a full American version of Death Note where things that only would happen in America would happen characters react like I would think Americans would react and one of them if you've seen it it's in Ryuk first appears I have seen and it's like light Turner freaking his shit and screaming at the top of his lungs like a little Shia LaBeouf which is what I expect if I don't know anything about Death Note and
Starting point is 00:06:04 click on a movie where it says guy gets a magical book and there's a demon right I would expect that guy to react like that I think most people's problems with that is that like his yet his terror is like his child like so bad yeah it's it's like it's like Transformers like gag shock yeah it's like Michael Bay was directing it right so a you know as it goes on I kind of felt like if I had no knowledge of Death Note at all and I watch about like three or four horror movies a week yes you do over Netflix over Xbox video whatever if I just clicked on this random Death Note movie and I'm gonna watch this movie I was like yeah
Starting point is 00:06:53 that was fine I was like a six you would seven you would most come away from it going boy that sure was based off of one of the most popular anime franchises of all time is it I don't think people are there's fans of it for sure I don't think it change is it Dragon Ball Evolution it's way better than okay I have not seen Ghost in the Shell so I don't know about that I've not watched Fist of the North Star all the way through you have not all the way through okay cuz that's like cuz that like Dragon Ball Evolution is like multiple steps above of that Fist of the North Star movie okay that is the abject just I wish I wish they'd
Starting point is 00:07:36 they'd make get another shot anyway Ryuk Wilham Defoe is amazing in it there's lots of gory scenes that were well done but other than that like yeah all the characters were annoying I like what they did with light in some not like with L in some scenes because in the anime always feels a joke he's like you don't take him seriously he's just weird little guy and and this guy seems more like a grounded real person but still has some of the weirdness of him I was like he's fine everyone else has a problem but like yeah it's it's it's like a six for me so Matt as the red as the as the as the death note expert in the
Starting point is 00:08:18 screw right now right now by default would you say that I should start death note at the Netflix adaptation well it sets itself up for big big sequels if it does well for Netflix the whole green light a second one you know since how works but it's all fucking Brennan just like screaming into the void at on Twitter while mostly anyone that's in that even knows a bit about death that was but like as a standalone movie like it was a six like I've seen so much worse I've seen so much better do you think the amount of trash you consume like forces you to give things like a fairer pass I think I have a broad spet
Starting point is 00:09:02 well it comes to horror movies like you're like the shittest shit taste in your mouth that you've had in your life is like worse than most people encounter I've often said like the last thing you want to be is a four to a six like Suicide Squad is a five Suicide Squad is a five like I I distinctly remember less of it as I took a piss at the only good part in the movie and when I know you saw it yeah I saw it and I took a piss right when they met the fucking the guy no the girl she shot all she shot all the FBI's sure I don't even know what you're talking about and that was supposed to be a cool moment I was in the
Starting point is 00:09:45 bathroom taking a piss and yeah I think I was spending my time better than man that movie sucks holy shit so but it's a five it's not a zero it's not a one I would love a zero like a Samurai cop is a zero you know like in terms of the movie quality on display no I was gonna say like a Samurai cop even a zero like I said before it's a zero but the counter went all the way does that like a minus two now well you can't get lower than zero yeah but a minus two on the shit scale would be a eight in the ironic good scale right so that was death no that's all I really have to say about it I played a couple things played
Starting point is 00:10:24 Sonic Mania how's Sonic Mania tell me I'm waiting for the easy release song is really is really good I have two gripes about it is that in the middle portion the two brand new zones that are like well there's a couple brand new zones but like in the middle portion of game they have a zone I think it's called press garden mm-hmm it's not a good zone it's very like random and you're just like what I don't get it it's this is weird and there's like a like a dip in I don't know momentum and in fun in the middle but then it goes to I think it's Mirage saloon Western themed and it's on a train yeah levels on a train and then
Starting point is 00:11:03 you have like a flying level in the tornado and I was like oh shit okay yeah yeah yeah and that's where I was like okay got some momentum between all the new zones it's I think someone said there's a total of 12 like all things considered but that seems still like a lot to me but someone said it's half and half well that makes them and 12 is twice as much as a regular a sonic yeah but there's some zones that are like they're a sequence yeah and that counts as like a zone act one or whatever so all the old zones that are come back they're great like usually the second part of that zone I send zone so much
Starting point is 00:11:41 is really good has new stuff the other the one other little gripe I have is that they overuse I because it's not I never found it fun the sonic 3 maze bonus game where you run and in the grid around the the globe tell me how they overuse it because that's like that's like my favorite part of those games really because I'm always a fan of the sonic 2 like half pipe I can hate that half okay well there you go you'll like this what do you mean by overuse like where why why okay in each zone there's a giant hidden ring and that brings you to the new mini game that they made for the game that's like pseudo 3d yeah and
Starting point is 00:12:18 that mini game is fucking awesome it's really fun all the time and then every single ring checkpoint that you go to will always bring you to the sonic 3 version and that's how you get choose or not to go in those you can choose not to go if you long as you have the ring requirement I think it's 30 and it's does that bullshit where it spins the and then has the little sparkles around so you jump into it so you don't have to do it but you have to do it if you want metals metals unlock different modes and things oh yeah so you see and there's like 24 like metals and I'm just like you have to and they're hard they're really
Starting point is 00:12:56 hard and like for me they're they're hard in an unfun way okay the the new mini game gets harder as you do it but it's always fun and always it feels like I don't know it just feels better to play and I really enjoyed those those are how you get the chaos emeralds though and that's kind of the main thing to complete the game whatever but um I'm so excited other than that the fucking sonic 25th anniversary stream with the fucking buzz it's amazing there's some cameos in the game that are fun but overall I liked it there was just like yeah I'm not a fan of the sonic 3 music musical I didn't get to hear like a whole bunch of it but
Starting point is 00:13:36 like it seemed really good the remixes of old themes are really good to chemical plant zone had a really awesome remix and it always happens in the second part of that zone to get the the traditional one the sound just better audio quality and then you get like a really sick remix in the next part so it's on its back everybody look not Sega made it they made it good oh fuck man I talked like on three different occasions last week over like I can't fucking believe somebody just said fuck you all make a better Sonic game and then they just did it and Sega can't do it boy I'm looking to be fair Mega Man versus Street Fighter
Starting point is 00:14:18 was pretty good oh man I'm so excited for Sonic 4 I'm gonna say Sonic 4 I still love that in all the intros and shit for Sonic Mania just fuck it I also played well this is with woolly you would have seen on the channel right I played a uncharted lost legacy but I want to play that separately like from our left off I was really enjoying that I like the two main cares and that I mean I've played very little uncharted and I'm I know exactly I'm going for and then when things when when what you're running on is falling apart and bullets are fine you're like hey everyone it's uncharted your character is made out of a thousand
Starting point is 00:15:01 pounds and everything they step on dies yes actually and these girls weigh less than like Nathan Drake like combined yeah but they have lots of guns so and I was really surprised but you have like a free roaming section and you have a jeep and you're just going around a huge map yeah that was that was one of the big showpiece things in four okay where you and Drake and Sully getting a fucking jeep in a fucking big-ass planes yeah driving around doing shit and it's like considering how linear that series often is especially with the platforming of literally like yellow one go to that yellow one go to that yellow one like
Starting point is 00:15:37 it's nice to I would love that kind of game but just like opener well because like it seems like she marks things on on her map and then you go to them and then your little set piece will happen at that area and then you leave and then you drive away that works and find little outposts things like that so I wasn't enjoying that I also went to dog con literally went to dog con went to dog con Saturday I saw yeah I saw that you went to dog con I didn't so here's a thing where are we going from a birthday trip and Anna goes dad's don't worry about it I'm like where we go we're going we're going and then we she's like
Starting point is 00:16:18 don't look don't like we're dry for a bit and she don't look out the window I'm like really straight up don't look out the fucking window you want to be a surprise close your eyes jackass so I just looked at the floor and then as we get out of the car behind a building because we have to park a little bit of ways away I see a guy with a big fluffy dog and I was like I look like guys don't and then I see two children walking down the street with a dog as we're dry past him and then we parked the car and I didn't think anything of it yeah I mean you used to live next to a dog park I did so the but this is an
Starting point is 00:16:48 industrial part of LaSalle maybe it's an industrial dog park of LaSalle so then one other person parks their car in front of us and she comes out of the car with a dog and I go dog park it's a dog thing there's dogs everywhere it took the third one for it to click and it goes a dog dog dog it's a dog thing so yeah it's dog fest and it was just basically a gigantic like caged-off area where there's a track like the obstacle course for anyone to take your dog in you step it up if you think you're hard enough can your dog do it no most of them couldn't a bunch of fat last off so it was just falling all over
Starting point is 00:17:26 the track and there's there's two separate cages one for big dogs to play fetch and one for little dogs to play fetch so I asked like can I go in there and play fetch like no it's only the dog and their owner that can play fetch because you know they don't you should have brought a fake dog I should have had like I should have put like a suit on Zach or you should have brought like a cardboard cut out of like a beagle and had it on a leash with wheels and just mostly what it was was people just going up to dogs and taking pictures and whatever and hugging them the highlight was the pit bull kissing booth where
Starting point is 00:17:59 they put a pit bull in like a pink dress and like a tiara and I just go up to the end and it also it went towards that raising money to go against that stupid pit bull band so it's like I just shoved like a ten dollar bill in there and I go up to this pit bull it just starts licking my face and I'm just like this is the most happy anyway pit bull dogs pit bulls rottweilers etc in frilly little dresses with tiara's what's pretty funny is that right before this I said hey we're not going to like a dog fighting pit are we ha ha ha like you know that's something you guys go to sometime no which was weird
Starting point is 00:18:41 when it turned out to be like a dog thing I was like that was that was a guess that was strangely accurate I feel like that's the kind of thing that like if you like upon meeting your father-in-law and that that's a red flag and you don't know them that well and descriptions are not clear and you're like why is there a bloody carpet in the back why remember we went to go get those x boxes that's true anyway everyone's like what no no no don't worry about it those x boxes were super real and all of them broke now mine's still fine fucking fuck you great I don't know about willies though uh and pieces of shit sunday went to a water park almost died why did you almost almost drowned there was a giant wave pool and usually
Starting point is 00:19:32 wave pools have one big wave and goes whoa yeah this one had a wave pool that just didn't stop and I was right in the middle of those waves where they're pushing me forward then as the wave retreats it sucks me back so I was getting sucked like off and on and I just couldn't get out and then of course the like I'm right near the wall and I'm trying to grab the wall and I'm in deep enough that I can feel the bottom so of course I look up and there's like 21 year old baywatch lifeguard girl just going you okay and I'm like and I kind of almost died right after doing that like a bunch of water please please not now and I come back up and I'm like yeah yeah yeah and then I was like what's wrong I'm like yeah yeah I'm just giving
Starting point is 00:20:20 the thumbs up trying to not die in front of girls and I didn't that's how you're gonna die it's it's how we're all gonna die at the end of the day like I have a feeling that I'm gonna have that heart attack and then all my friends and family are gonna run in and go ah one too many cookies fatso it's like oh man really I got like five seconds left and like you see you see them like already like on a site like making the gravestone where it says one too many cookies like they're fun it's it's a fucking gravestone that's shaped like a box of chips of hoy and the last thing is I got back into lucha underground almost done season two we'll talk about a bit about lucha underground a bit in a little in a later segment slightly called we
Starting point is 00:21:07 are talking about lucha underground that's right um uh from season two uh I haven't finished it yet but uh Aztec warfare two super awesome I was kind of cool on the first one I was like I was like it's fine it's good but I'm like at the end of the day it's just a royal rumble where it's not really a royal rumble yeah it's kind of a weird match but then there's something about this one that clipped more well the second one introduces matanza in Aztec warrior it does so here's a problem with man tanza is that I like it if his name is man tanza uh mat tanza the monster but I don't like the monster man taza quieto oh I know it just it makes him less of a weird supernatural monster no he's like a like a Texas chainsaw massacre kind of guy not like a jason kind of guy
Starting point is 00:21:56 you know his actual problem is that he isn't big enough he's he's um uh cage the mac and um of course uh milmorte are all his height or slightly bigger cage is taller yeah and I'm like ah you needed a guy like he's imposing like his body his body is like oh he's a big grizzly guy yeah and he's also like more of a rectangle than all the other guys yeah yeah yeah I was like I was kind of hoping for kane when he came out or even the undertaker stature but you know he can't win them all uh so yeah as as and okay he's a good squash champ very very good like Brock Lesnar like and that like can anyone beat him like yeah probably eventually I don't know the one thing I have to say is that I was uh when famous bees started really coming up and doing all this shit yeah I was like ah it's
Starting point is 00:22:43 fine it's it's funny but it wasn't blown away by it but what I was blown away was when there's a bunch of wrestlers just hanging on the ring for something and then Dario Coyto comes back and he shows up and he's like I'm Dario Coyto and I have my brother man tanza and you see do you see like you can hear off screen a bit but the camera goes on on famous bee and he points to Dario goes hey that dude is famous he loves it man that was funny he needs the fame I like that so yeah two three get fame such a good goddamn gimmick he doesn't do anything I know but it's like he's hey he's still making the same amount of money and he's not taking bombs yes fair enough fair enough yeah so is that pretty much it yeah yeah all right uh my week's actually gonna be super
Starting point is 00:23:31 short uh this week because I didn't play anything of note that was new I went back to try and finish uh the Witcher 3 expansion but there's nothing new to say about it other than it's a good game and haven't finished it that I haven't finished it um spent the whole weekend uh fucking just binging the shit out of the new Twin Peaks season with the girlfriend because she had just finished season two a few days ago and watched uh episode 16 last night and next week is the end of the new season where are you at on that man I like like I've been doing Game and Thrones now so like um yeah I saw that too but we'll talk I'll talk to woolly about that when he comes um uh so yeah I have not I didn't get past like episode six okay so almost everybody I know stop watching in some
Starting point is 00:24:22 form for whatever reason so I did around episode five or six yeah this is gonna be how do I talk about this okay Lynch and Frost are in total creative control of every single aspect of every single episode and while I love that for the moments that it hits maybe there's a moment there is such a thing as too much control yes there absolutely is like every single episode ends with a full musical act by a band that I don't give a shit about what do you what do you mean like at the roadhouse oh right right right of course yeah like sorry I I thought you looked like the show just stops and it just cuts to a concert there that's basically what fucking happens there are long long ass scenes of of just shot over shot of characters just
Starting point is 00:25:18 staring at each other yeah and then saying one thing and then just staring at each other and but that's fine Lynch loves that and I can appreciate it the the general plotting of those episodes is like it's very similar to how like me and woolly complained about the new Evangelion movie is that it is based on frustrating the audience which is a very weird thing to be going for I guess when you have 16 episodes they're like hey we can spend time frustrating the audience absolutely so like you get a put you get this point where it's like okay there there are like I fucking I want to say 15 different plot threads right there's Ed Nadine there's what's going on with James there's the murder in Buckhorn there's Dr. Amp and his radio show there you know
Starting point is 00:26:09 all these there's what's going on with Cooper etc etc etc and you'll be given a scene in which people talk for a while or they'll do a little thing and they'll get one one information they'll get one whole information one unit of info yes and they'll go huh and then it will cut to some bullshit you don't care about right like drug addict not Macaulay Culkin trying to get a job interview right and it'll follow him for like the rest of the episode and you're gonna be like no boy and then once you get invested in that story it'll and you're gonna oh drug addict Macaulay Culkin failed his job interview and now he's got a bunch of drugs what's gonna oh now we're back to Cooper that I said I actually don't care about right now I want to go back like I was getting a whiff of
Starting point is 00:26:59 all that it is it is it is a story based on like anti closure yeah which is why I'm so happy that once you get to 1415 16 you start actually getting closure like I feel confident because I know a lot of people probably just quit the show because they couldn't take it yeah and there was a real worry so there's a character who I won't name because the the huge sport right but they get in episodes 1415 sorry 1314 15 they get crazy long scenes like 10 minute long scenes that go nowhere right yeah one per episode and you're like this is really interesting provided this actually goes somewhere because because there's the nagging feeling in your heart it's like this is just gonna straight up go nowhere because sometimes it does and then when it
Starting point is 00:28:05 finally finally does go somewhere just that feeling of just oh like intense catharsis and the pacing goes from glacial to lightning fast and all of a sudden bamboo finished finished finished finished and you're just a wash in closure infinite closure and you're just like last night's episode there was clapping there was cheering there was yelling at the tv like it's okay it since the series is over next week if you've held off for whatever reason or you were afraid that it wasn't gonna deliver on a single thing that you wanted now's the time you can go back in and binge it okay and fucking actually get something like characters are answering questions character arcs are finishing you're getting what you want and it's so good it is a
Starting point is 00:29:03 it is a 18 hour movie in which 90 90% of it is blue balls before the big fight okay okay and it's ridiculous it's interesting because Game of Thrones is very the opposite of it where it's less episodes than any season ever and each one does those weird like travel issues that we're talking about to you where oh yeah just teleport but there's no time but every episode is like holy shit oh what you you have that secret oh my god like every single one whereas the last i'd say two seasons of Game of Thrones before that was like literally spinning its wheels where people were just still not meeting just people were not like getting anything done it was just kind of stalemate after stalemate so yeah it was kind of it's kind of like that season of of the third
Starting point is 00:29:57 season of Twin Peaks is like three seasons of Game of Thrones where it's been 90% of it would not much happen well it's the the kind of thing where i i read up on the the production of the third season of Twin Peaks right and i found out that like there was an argument in in pre-production between Showtime executives and David Lynch that from its description sounds like it escalated to the point of near walkoffs and possible like coming to fists yeah because of Showtime going do you really fucking need 18 episodes for this we looked at the shit you can totally do this in nine or 12 easy and you'll save us like 50 million duff like and it's not stated in any of the stuff that i found but i found it weird that it would become like so pitched so like pointed
Starting point is 00:30:53 because there's an episode where if you were you have not seen it yet matt the episode that you're talking about is that is it the one that's just yeah slow motion yeah yeah and it is an episode in which i think everyone at home no matter how much you love that episode or think it's genius can understand that if i was somebody on the production team for this i would fight Lynch to cancel this fucking thing because it is a crazy ass waste of money like it it is what i would like if if this was on broadcast that would have killed that episode would have killed the show right would just have absolutely just people would have left and never fucking come back like the whole fucking things in black and white for fuck's sake for some reason like oh it's it's nuts but
Starting point is 00:31:43 oh man it's so it's good to know because i that was my fear actually for a long time you're just not gonna go anywhere or it's gonna like be like oh four seasons or that one thing that you want to happen that one thing that everyone wants to happen is just never gonna happen yeah no no it's it's time it's time to go back it's time oh it's so good uh that's pretty much it for my week all right so if that's like short week also uh woolly's uh uh uh not here you're all saying a spot i have to be like i have to sit in a spot just imagine woolly is invisible and on my lap yeah and i'm just cool with that i guess uh so i guess we should go over the news but before we do that uh i'm gonna do that i'm gonna need to take a quick quick little break because i drank
Starting point is 00:32:32 like 10 cans of redbull because i was so nervous okay all right i'll be back uh with a hopefully not broken podcast hey we're back are we though yeah we're back so i have to okay so let's see what woolly's uh a fucking uh uh notes tell me how to do this uh switch to people's scenes i'm not gonna do that okay uh switch to the news scene when i've done the week did the news oh that's how the news that's how he does it he's just got a thing there and that's a second monitor this is looking behind the veil this is there i can see it now okay so then because usually the docket he writes it's on like a like a like a bar napkin yeah so then what i do and it usually just says fighting games is i click on this right and then i think of an interesting segue yeah uh you have to do this
Starting point is 00:33:30 because you're looking at the list yeah i'm looking at the list i could never guess so you know what would have been an interesting segue what would have been actually getting the remainder of half life three that would have been nice that would have been nice that would have been pretty nice so take us through this so basically because i'm sure you've read this oh i super read it the basically mark laidlaw who was the head writer over at valve for many many years who recently left the company yeah i was about to say and uh when he left the company uh everybody who still cared about half life on the internet went oh like that's not good because he seemed to be aside from gave new all anyway the last kind of holdout of original staff that right could have
Starting point is 00:34:23 possibly like stayed behind and done a fucking thing it doesn't mean for like doom 2016 came out with i think zero people that worked on like doom one or two i assume possibly three is still there yeah so it doesn't absolutely nail a half life nail into the half life coffin so before we actually get into this actually laidlaw came out after the shenanigans went on saying hey lots of alien scripts got thrown out yeah doesn't mean there's no aliens franchise is true and everyone said shut up mark so uh mark just went ahead and went to a past bin and changed some names around and basically put out like a several thousand word right synopsis of everything that half life two episode three was gonna be as well as it's ending and what was
Starting point is 00:35:19 it gonna be and it was gonna be going to the arctic finding the Polaris that was mentioned in uh fucking um portal two okay and having a bunch of awesome running gun battles inside the Polaris that was would be constantly portal shifting through time and space to different places i'm glad they canceled and having running gun battles through like time portals that doesn't sound very interesting so i'm glad it's never happened this is so depressing to me man so what's actually also depressing is that the ending was also straight up 100 going to be a cliffhanger to lead into to lead into like and i don't know you get the feeling that like these games were never supposed to have an ending any of them like no matter no matter when these games were going to
Starting point is 00:36:06 end or when they were going to stop making them they would still end on a cliffhanger yeah now personally i think the cliffhanger that this game would have ended on is a way better cliffhanger than the one the last one did because it's the difference between what are we going to do now in the next battle like a halo thing or whatever whereas the last one is i'm about to be shot in the face right that's an actual cliffhanger and fucking so if you want you can go check out the pay spin uh and there there's two now there's there's a write up that has there's a write up that has all the bullshit names like cool man and alec and shit with all the fucking fake ass names that michael uh marco laid love put in or you can have one that somebody just can you know copy
Starting point is 00:36:56 pasted yeah exactly names into man hats are so fucking ah i gotta organize my fucking thoughts on this but like look down here in this article it really sucks because it just makes puts it more in perspective it's like Duke Nukem forever came out beyond good and evil too will most like kind to come out fucking at the ff7 remake is happening it is happening Shenmue came out uh oh no it didn't come out but it's gonna it's gonna go lost lost guardian or whatever last guardian sure like like these are the things that came out and this most likely and it's like well i mean warcraft adventures didn't come out and start but i mean to be fair but comparing valve to blizzard is actually the better example because they were both the pc game companies that just well starcraft ghost never
Starting point is 00:37:41 came out but at the end of the day it's like some of like blizzards projects like those who you just mentioned weren't they made both by outside companies i'm not sure of warcraft adventures was but ghost certainly always was made by a third party yes ghost was always made by shitty third parties so probably i mean the games i bet you that they did i bet you they were fine i bet they was like it's not good enough they couldn't deal with whatever blizzards internal standards control was and they're like we have to ship a game mother fuckers we can't spend eight years on this i don't know where that internal quality control was with the warcraft movie but it's there somewhere that's a movie that's a different thing seriously though what a bummer like i blame
Starting point is 00:38:19 many things on this what do you blame chiefly i blame gave new all okay um that's the go to that's an easy one yeah yeah i blame everyone over at valve that wanted to sign up for their fucking unorganized fucking everybody work on whatever fucking project they want god damn mentality yeah okay well that's cool but like there should be always a core team that you got to do what we want i want i want to blame people everyone who decided that the way the bonus payment structure over at valve was gonna work was that your bonus per year was going to be determined by the profits the game you were working on made not as a company wide thing which means that if you mat if you're working and you gotta support your family you're working at valve but i don't want
Starting point is 00:39:07 to and you have a choice between a fucking couple of games you can work on the half-life episode yeah that may not come out you can work on uh the csgo update which will come out for sure and makes tons of money yeah or you can make a bunch of dota hats yeah and dota makes a little what about portal no is that an option i can no no it's not all right what are you gonna pick what are you gonna fucking pick you're gonna pick the one that makes you tons of money i pick the dota hats yeah you pick the fucking dota hats that's free cash right that's gambling for children they love those fucking sparkly things easy and it's like well how the more i am personally i'm maybe a little more invested than i should be in this because i played that game and i had a
Starting point is 00:39:53 lot of fun with it but i think the reason why i'm actually like super pissed off and not just i didn't just let it go is that it's the kind of situation where it's you you you you keep asking gabe over the years yeah what does he say he says we're working on something so you're not and he stopped saying that a couple years by the way so what is he just stare blankly no what uh the the one that the one that's like twisting the fucking knife yeah in in your heart is do you remember clang that kickstarter game that failed it ran out of money it like it's it succeeded its kickstarter but it but then the prototype never got picked up so it just i don't know clang so clang was a sword fighting game and uh it was uh i forget the guy's name the ball guy looks like a cane from
Starting point is 00:40:37 nod uh and he uh i had this really nice kickstarter picture all these developers the pc developers that are like hey you know these guys are cool these guys are the best and he walks by gabe newall and gabe newall is at a forge and gabe newall is making a crowbar in the forge right and he hits it three times and that he's talking about possible delays with the kickstarter and then he looks over gabe and gabe holds up the like the molten crowbar and goes these things take time and that was like two years ago okay and it's like nothing is in development the this shit like god damn it just admit that the game's not gonna happen the thing is that you can't when you're like this what did this come up with this come over the um a guy nintendo was asked hey what rhythm heaven is dead
Starting point is 00:41:25 we're hearing it's dead he's like it's not it's not dead i want to make more of those yeah but there's nothing to announce because you're putting this position where if you say we're not working on that at all and we have no plans you don't say that because people get angry and you want to leave that door open but this has been going on so long i'm not even going to open the door anymore when the fuck did episode two half-life episode two fuck come out 2002 half-life episode two when the fuck did that happen half-life two episode that came out in two that came out exactly 10 years ago so october of 2007 oh wow that's way okay right that that's not too that's not that bad because that's comparable to um last guardian then yes it can still happen but sony was always adamant
Starting point is 00:42:15 that no this i remember she was in interviews would be like this game is gonna come out yeah no matter what happens this game is gonna come out that's more definitive than like banging fucking crowbar and what makes and what makes this like extra like oh i don't think this is gonna happen is that like the timing on this is like would be like exactly 10 years after that plot synopsis got nailed down which screams like will the nva ran out because and nothing's actually being made with it right so like hey you're free to do this and it's like well they're not gonna use that fucking plot now after it's out with this plot synopsis for episode three could someone make a kickstarter just called full death could they make a kickstarter for for a game called full
Starting point is 00:43:04 death could they do that that would look at the pop plot synopsis and then make cool guy and alec just to give people something they could in fact there's a there's a half-life two mod out right now that uh that inputs that that takes some of the gameplay concepts it takes like beta ideas and like it's like this is those clothes are gonna get all right still like oh well i'm sure we'll come i'm sure we'll be announced uh in game magazines next week oh in game which is worse in game magazines or like when it's done and then when it's done is never okay i hate when it's done yeah i love next week in game magazines you love it if any even if it's something i really anticipate i'm like oh come on when's it coming up if they say
Starting point is 00:43:55 next week in game magazines i'm like that's hilarious i i hate when it's done it's i don't know it's very it feels actually like condescending yeah yeah like it's like getting waved off it's like no shut up peasant you don't need that yeah like you can say what what when is done when it's done means but in a different way you're like oh well we're working really hard we're looking at 2018 or 2019 yeah and we know that's really far away but that's all i can tell you but and since that's very far away it could get delayed because did you know shit happen when it's done is like has an air of superiority over it and it was always done by um fucking what's their names uh wasn't it John Carmack it was the it was the fucking id software guys that would always do when it's
Starting point is 00:44:47 done it was Carmack and uh and Romero oh yeah Romero look at that when's daikotana when's daikotanas when's your bit wait when's your bitch daikotana when's your bitch done when's daikotana when you're a bitch when you're my bitch yeah daik it daikotana makes wait if you wake up and you have a if you have a sign on your on your head that says John Romero's bitch yeah you'll know that it's done when will i be daikotanas bitch when i'm done John Romero's John okay it's specifically asking you you are a bitch that belongs to him is that the kind of thing that if i could have gone to the office and become John Romero's bitch that daikotana would have come out you know what's even worse is that in the ad it says you are about to be John Romero's you it said about so it's like
Starting point is 00:45:42 implying that's gonna be what a fucked up fucking ad like in like i'm gonna fucking attack you motherfucker did you read the thing where like i read like an interview with him like i don't know five years ago that said like i was totally against that pr thing oh fuck you john you don't get to do that it was like it was like this smarmy pr guy that was like this this will be awesome and he's like i like it i like it being aggressive but i think this is too much you don't get to do that you don't get to fucking roll that back fucking 10 years later it's some bullshit you put your fucking name on it you told some marketing fuck that they could tell everybody that you were gonna make the world your bitch and now you want to roll it back now baby he was he was convinced oh yeah he was charmed
Starting point is 00:46:29 if you will by this by this snake oil salesman he was seduced he was seduced to make everyone oh man you know it is a good idea i'm gonna game rules about to make you i'm gonna do interviews at e3 and when the interviewer comes up to me i'm gonna grab them and go i'm gonna make you my bitch play dad katana oh i just really love like miyamoto just to be like man that robot sumo game that never came out if it had you would have all been my bitch yeah that's that it's very miyamoto of him that's good oh i had a segue but it's gone hey fuck it's fine the yakuza team you know them no they're about to make you you know them well they're bitch because they're making a billion fucking games right now uh many many big games for big all of which
Starting point is 00:47:19 are super cool good ideas these are good ideas so we have fist of the north star which is currently just called fist of the north star oh okay go through the yeah go through we got yakuza kawami two which is uh yakuza extreme two another yakuza online which is a pc and mobile free to play game and then there are hints of what they're just calling the next yakuza game and i think it's like i like i titled it in the fucking notes shin yakuza because that's a fucking thing i saw they're making a shitload of games and guess what they're honest about like these games are far away one of these will come out a year and yeah we announced three or four so that's how we roll so um i looked at the video of fist of the north star and i was like looking at it and i didn't
Starting point is 00:48:11 get much context for it just someone just uh through the movie at me on twitter and i look at it i'm like oh it's like a re-release of like i guess the koei tecmo no no wait that looks colorful what why is he at a bar and then it says like and then the logo the circle appears and i'm like that looks a lot like the and i click again to like where where's it yeah because it's called hokuto ga go to ko go to go to ku go to go to go how to ko um which is very similar to ryuga go to ku i think which is like a dragon yeah so this is fist of the dragon or some shit that's fine uh i think no whatever ryu is the dragon in that so this would be you means a lot like a hokuto what does hokuto mean uh north star so it's like a north star that's fine they should get the
Starting point is 00:49:11 they should get uh getting less fine as we talk about it whatever man like it's yeah whatever who cares it looks awesome uh it's exactly what like everyone in the world wanted so i don't know if you've seen any of the yakuza 6 stuff like put that new engine no uh it's it's very impressive good and i think like man all you gotta do is have like it'll be more wide open but like that formula like that exact formula works perfectly for fist of the north star does you go to missions there's your side quest locations it's got a good punchy kiki combat system like and here's a thing though is that what i want is like the yakuza writing star slide missions in the fucking fist of the north star it's a perfect fit because it's goofy like this the north star alternates between between
Starting point is 00:49:58 extreme seriousness and the high end ultra violence yeah and like absurd goofy bullshit like finding uh kinshiro in a in a haystack or like king yeah that's in there that's a real thing yeah that's part of ho kato no ken you know uh uh kinshiro is constantly hungry and when he looks at people they turn into food yeah you know but like fuck yeah considering those are like and it's it's like this is one of those things i never would have even thought of it right you know platinum making a fucking metal gear game you know but it's perfect it's perfect it's perfect in tone it's ideal in the combat system in gameplay it's like man we played those fucking fist of the north star warriors games and they got some dumb bullshit they're bad bad at the only thing the only thing
Starting point is 00:50:45 that i like about either of them is the line corpulent enemies require combo i like to drive in the motorcycle yeah and but like that's the thing is that the writing in that is all terrible like like most writing in in uh the north star it's tough to make good writing around what okay it's it's not entertaining yeah it's not entertaining right at all it's like oh there you are like fucking can and cure you are like the same guy very similar they're both like hyper japanese ideas of like a man the same almost uh i'm very excited and i was talking to people about this and it was pointed out to me that jaggy could very easily have his jaggy anywhere system yes like ideas that we saw before can very easily be transplanted i like the rouse horse
Starting point is 00:51:35 everywhere system the rouse horse everywhere just his horse no row no dead would row be mr shakedown row or the horse the horse would be the mr horse he shakedown uh it says it says because the north star takes place in edin and wants flourishing entertainment district it's like camero cho that's now the only place with the water source so of course everyone's horse there's bars with electricity so it is super going to just tell you know i should play this trailer yeah just so people can see that shit uh how do i is that good so it's good it's good enough for now um but it it just looks great now i'm taking a better look at it now you're clearly in a city area like yeah they are very very clearly taking a camero cho style
Starting point is 00:52:27 location and saying that like you're not going to be roaming the wastes a lot here i don't it doesn't seem like i'm sure there might be a thing but yeah primarily being a city on you see you see ray you say you see shin and like i can map those fucking characters to fist the north star archetypes that's just the grand so yeah the weirdest part is where you see him in a bar and it is just the grand from yakuza zero and then a bunch of weird god handshit happens yeah uh also looks really good i think like one of the bigger problems i had with the the tecmo tecmo coa games is that they're they had a really shitty use of color they also ran poorly yeah and you know the the yakuza series is way of like having giant flaming energy coming off people yeah that reminds me of something yeah
Starting point is 00:53:15 it reminds me of fist of the north star yeah it sure does doesn't it it sure fucking does this is gonna be awesome it's gonna be very very uh also they got uh they got yakuza kawami 2 coming out which i am thrilled for a lot more thrilled for than i am uh for yakuza kawami 1 which is coming out tomorrow or today if you're listening to the podcast and audio form uh because this trailer is terrible by the way like it is literally just Ryuji and him talking uh because yakuza 2 is still the best yakuza game it has the best story and and has the it added the most like to the formula but it's the old sps 2 game now i think we're doing zero we were even talking about like oh theory made i'm like yeah like i was i started playing tube and then like that was a
Starting point is 00:53:59 heavy year for gaming and i was like i just got sidetracked never got to play it again you were like oh that's a shame that's the best story and i was like really yes uh a lot of it has to do with dealing with uh uh the the jingwon korean mafia right right uh who are bad fucking dudes uh the reason why uh 2 is so exciting to me for a lot of reasons is not just because of its quality is that two fucking bombed man yeah two like got sent out to fucking die i think they sent out like 50 000 copies total i couldn't find one for the longest time and then and then sega was like well it doesn't sell it's how the how the how the fuck is it supposed to sell so the weirdest part about this yakuza 2 kuami trailer is shots of makoto from yakuza 0 right who is not in yakuza
Starting point is 00:54:51 2 at all be added for so maybe uh it's also weird seeing a bunch of the yakuza 2 characters being replaced with actors because they weren't in here yeah okay well um but now that's their thing and now they hey we need a old japanese man we have many of those his face needs to fucking be on this shit check our old japanese men roll the decks you can get any of them there's that the yakuza series gives me this feeling that japanese acting is just dominated by 18 year olds and 89 year olds i think that's pretty so in the trailer they go to the point of showing kiryu getting attacked by those fucking tigers yeah because they know that's the best that's the best moment that's ever been finally dragon versus tiger just like in the yakuza 1 kuami trailer uh they showed off kiryu just
Starting point is 00:55:42 backhanding the shit out of haruka because that's one of the most defining moments of that series oh that's great slapping that little kid in the fuck i thought it was like knocking that door open and then that guy goes flying that's like the first thing that happens in the game it's so i like that comparison video those shots oh they're so identical yeah the other one the new ps4 one doesn't look any better really uh so on top of that there also i have almost nothing on that god damn uh yakuza online other than it is a mobile and free-to-play game that's micro transactions um there is also the new protagonist of the yakuza series who is named ishiban uh so there's ishiban now here's a thing with with ishiban is that i do not think the coolness
Starting point is 00:56:32 of his illustration matches his actual character g thing at all so he's he's supposed to have he's supposed to have like wild crazy hair uh and and it's like it's kind of flowing in a weird way it's it's supposed to be demon like he looks like a crazy man um his name is literally i'm number one which i actually like that is pretty good it's so lame it's so stupid yeah like q to use literally like the dragon so fuck it this guy's number one yeah and he just kind of he's got a it's not quite an afro i guess like a pulled out frizzy afro yeah it's afro ish uh or it's an afro but it's just the quality of his hair isn't what i expect and like his face doesn't convey meanness that much it just kind of conveys like he's his afro is messier than i would have liked like it's not preen
Starting point is 00:57:21 and primed and proper but more than that i do like what they went with him he is an inverted curio right yeah yeah so look his color scheme is the exact opposite of curios he's got the same purple as the as the out-suit and his inner his undershirt is the the gray uh and he is messy where curio is proper he is uh he's very tan compared to curio uh and in the cutscene that they showed off where he shows up curio is nearly wordless like he always is and this guy is just blabbing and blabbing and blabbing and it'd be nice to like well i mean we we got blabbing characters and like he's a four anyone or you switched characters but like yeah because six is supposed to be the end of curio's story yeah six is super the end of curio's story apparently uh he's a dad now or
Starting point is 00:58:14 some shit there's a baby he takes care of a baby okay so you have that but you have that other piece of news with that survey so i don't have the survey right now wait go down go down is it right there what's the series usually okay nevermind survey i just saw the word survey pop up so i thought that was so i didn't think to actually find or put a link in it and i'm an idiot but if you are on the internet which most of you are you can go find a yakuza survey based on these games asking you all of these games currently have no release state for america english speaking listener uh what which ones of these games would you like to uh play and you should say all of them you should say all of them if i could only pick one though it would be
Starting point is 00:59:03 maybe for the north star because we're getting good yakuza games i would say that because fist of the north star needs a chance dude yeah it does people need to give a fuck about that game or that series which it's not in the narrow tunnel vision of a warrior it's weird because i'll i'll shit all over tecmo tecmo koei for what they did to uh ho kato no can but they fucking did don't forget berserk shitty very shitty but they did attack on titan just fine and they did a great yeah they did just good so good how are you all right so i do that and then okay yeah i'm doing the podcast guys i'm doing a bit go to the survey and like yeah yeah seriously go to the survey and it's easy to find and do a fucking thing so that we can get all the video
Starting point is 00:59:47 games that's what we want all the manly video games hey you want to hear about a video game that's not gonna happen and i and i put it on i put it on the docket because i'm embarrassed that this became a fucking news article absolutely what the fuck is bethesda's game of thrones page doing on target's website so you said this to me and i thought you said that bethesda shit slash game of thrones like apostrophe game of thrones and i thought it was two separate things i didn't know about this so a uh a product page for bethesda game of thrones appeared on target's website um it is a placeholder page it does not have any box art uh doesn't have any details whatsoever and uh it has only appeared on target like this is supposed to be a leak yeah uh in
Starting point is 01:00:37 addition even though everyone picked this up uh the that's just straight up turned down the games of thrones license in the past like they rejected when did that happen i can click on that link please i'd like to see because i'm interested about when when that happened i should click on that uh that happened in 2011 that was that was that was when the show was just that's yeah so that's before it became super mega massive i just killed the thing i fucked up i fucked up you'll get it again whatever it doesn't actually matter that so i'm there's not much to look at i'm straight up disappointed by everybody jumping on this because this is like it's not even an amazon leak with like a fucking fake box or a price yeah like it looks like a fucking mistake how could that be possibly
Starting point is 01:01:26 be a mistake it might be i don't know it just seemed like because i thought so many games of leak this way though i thought i thought about it on the way over here and it's like i feel like game of thrones a terrible setting for a bethesda open world rpg it doesn't necessarily have to be an open world like that's what we assume what like i think it would be good to because look look there's how many bandits can you kill there's three game of thrones games right there's a telltale one doesn't really count because a it wasn't that great and b um i think that's like not the most optimal way to experience everything like you know that universe can bring then there was the shitty game that we played oh boy the bad action whatever nah that game was great what are you talking about
Starting point is 01:02:11 but it was it had nothing that what people would want game of thrones like i had two one character had one no i had two characters and more monsters and that was it and then there was that weird rts one that came out i think even before yeah there was some weird other one yeah i would love an action thing yeah yeah killing bandits that would be the main one but i i want game of thrones have another shot like would it take place in the north and you like white walkers would be your primary monster enemy why not why not bounce around between you know what i'd like if i if i would love the fucking game of thrones ps2 no you know action games two towers style two towers and then have big elaborate cuts no i'm thinking about it like you know what it would
Starting point is 01:02:54 do it would take place like it would take place in one of the fucking prequel universes they're talking about with hd or that or that where magic is more of a thing yeah and stuff like that okay maybe it's real uh i'm flip-flop it might it might not be because usually if it's amazon then it's a hundred percent oh yeah amazon always fucks up target but target has has i remember some games being like yeah target thing because there's no way that's a mistake there's no one there's no way someone wrote Bethesda game of thrones what's a target is that that fucking company that fucking pulled out and fucked everyone in this country yeah yeah it's because no one bought any stuff there it was a shithole no it's good is that all the prices were bad and they had nothing on the shelves
Starting point is 01:03:37 yeah the one that we had yeah it was fucking unfortunate every time i go to target in america i'm like yes oh it's always well that's that's the nature of shopping in america you go yeah yeah just like just jump up in the air look at this cereal i want to know if you said yeah about this next piece of news oh which is monot was announced for streetfighter five no because they knew about her like six months ago yeah but you didn't know about what she looked like no she's shown in someone's story ending yeah but you didn't know how she played sure uh i like her i think she's cool i like her story costume way better than the default yes it's fine that is a becoming a recurring trend with a lot of these streetfighter characters the only thing is that i
Starting point is 01:04:20 don't like how her hair is so close to her clothes color because it makes it feel like she's wearing it's not i fucking fucked it up what i fucked it all up hold on i gotta change it back to news okay there now we're in news there oh my god i'm bad at this here we go her regular outfit just makes it look like she has a weird little helmet on at first and she doesn't it's hair but i'm just like you could have just made it i really don't like her at all you really i think she looks like she's from a mobile game like i find her design to be just like anti iconic like she looks like a MOBA character maybe yeah i don't know also man is she ever just rose and viola combined in one person you know why why is that she's rose and viola combined that's why she's literally roses
Starting point is 01:05:11 apprentice or something yeah but it's like the the the ball attacks is like incredibly like viola from uh uh soul cal five uh i think her fighting style is i mean i'm gonna hate it personally but i wouldn't really use it but i think it's name it's a it's a it's a nice combination of like viola and like eddie no not eddie venom venom with the balls we're placing the balls all over and street fighters sure as fuck did not have that fucking archetype so far no so it's a genuinely new character but like compared to like rashid or fang or um god most of the newcomers see yeah like her story costumes way better yeah it's like it's a lot likes to deer from killer angst but yeah of the newcomers so far like i think she's like the probably the worst really i can't
Starting point is 01:06:06 so boring man and she's like you know what i look at her and see i see a a boring or aliza from skull girls hmm yeah lies is way more each of thing in the hair and all that stuff now since willy's not here to defend his short haired street fighter maiden we can fully say what we really feel okay which is i don't know i don't know i don't know her animations are really cool and i like that she does a little dances during stuff i have no problem with her like in fact i think i'm a bit cooler on colin than her like she makes me like abigail way more well abigail's abigail's personality yeah personified he's so stupid i like it i uh when abigail came out i finally booted up like street fighter five since alex came out so i i i i looked at the massive
Starting point is 01:07:04 amount of money i had to spend for like you know obviously if you if you use fight money you can get some stuff but i'm like all these stages are so fucking expensive that's the one thing that got me the stages were way too expensive yeah that was the only thing but i got them all because i like them i feel really bad because i feel like for me personally like sf5 like i i've i've passed it right yeah like because now when i think about fighting games i think about man that dbz game looks really good or i should go back to that guilty gear game again yeah and it's just it makes peckin yeah and it's like i love street fighter so much but like the way that everything around street fighter five that wasn't the core gameplay was handled is just so disappointing it feels very
Starting point is 01:07:49 similar to but not nearly as bad as what's happening with marvel infant where it's like marvel infinite seems to play really well everyone they get to actually sit down play is like oh yeah totally and the gem systems the the gem system the infinity stone system is super cool and interesting but like man that roster man those characters whoa uh you saw i'm not sure we ever talked about it you saw like tech in seven outsold like sold the same or like slightly more than street fighter five has in totality okay yeah like you know in a week or something or a month i would say it's in a month and like more so than a year and like i think we talked about this since we're not here to like yell at me um i thought you talked about this where i was like i still really feel that street
Starting point is 01:08:39 fighter five came out way too soon after ultra street fighter four especially on ultra street fighter four on ps4 well the real problem was like it was competing like ultra came out what six months beforehand yeah and so i ultra was like five six years of built up content yeah versus the new one that has like very little by comparison yeah so i just kind of felt like people were like we've had street fighter for a while it's not like it went away and like i would say like before they announced it i was like probably should have waited two more years like i know it's like we need to make money for the fiscal quarter we need to be at evo blah blah blah blah but like your capcom you're not the market has spoken put an arcade mode in your fighting game like when did
Starting point is 01:09:22 tecan six came out bloodline rebellion came out like on consoles on the ps3 and like i want to say like 2007 2008 really because tecan tag two no that can't be right that's that's a tecan tag two came out in between tecan six and seven but i still feel that there's this fervor of tecan like we haven't got a proper tecan along 2009 tecan six yeah jesus was eight years between tecan six and seven you know how gta's come out once every six seven years like that's where you sell and a lot like tecan seven has like an orgy of content like there's so much fucking shit i haven't even gotten to like any of it yeah i know because i just go play versus matches with king and it's like man love king like we're talking about it now i'm like i should leave and go play tecan seven i
Starting point is 01:10:15 really haven't gotten into it that much it's fucking great so i love that tecan seven so menace revealed for street fighter five if you're still playing it uh she's around there's still one more character to go hopefully it's abigale two it's abigale two yeah an even bigger grosser abigale yeah dude that's a thing is that you say that but then you can totally do that with the andore family there's g on dore they have actual different names and suffixes and shit so you could say abigale two sure why not g abigale shin abigale so speaking of uh big and gross if you want it and you want to play ff 15 on the pc you can totally get your goddamn naked gladio mod off the steam workshop i love oh no one's talking like cindy get the fuck out of here cindy knock
Starting point is 01:11:09 this man no you're getting in the way of my beef it's that gladi maybe igneous maybe uh depending on your taste i guess um so naked chocobos final fancy 15 has been announced for pc and yada yada yada and they fucked up and said it requires 170 gigs to install which is super wrong and they walk that back but it's also gonna have uh extensive steam workshop mod support which is oh that's really cool that game could do a lot uh and when asked about uh what what about making those characters naked they responded with uh we are leaving the nude mods to the moral sense of players i think they said we're we don't like that but what we won't do is stop you yes we understand that the the we understand this game that we purposely made it to be a bunch of sexy boys
Starting point is 01:12:03 yes we understand this all right here's the quote when we were getting together for discussion all the people together in the project were airing out their worries nude mods where something most people were really worried about what's stronger in my mind is the fact that i don't want to limit people too much this is part of culture of gaming these days these people it's a thing they've bought you like your naked polygons their game now i don't i don't think it's a good thing but we're gonna leave it to the moral sense of all the players out there i basically want as a principle to give as much freedom and as little limitation as possible now while this is a really stupid thing that they had to talk about and i think it's really hilarious but because nothing because
Starting point is 01:12:51 you're forced to talk about nothing nothing anyone nothing they could have done could have possibly stopped these new like there's no way like people are going to see their fucking gladios and and and prom does and source filmmaker and it can't be stopped right i do actually genuinely appreciate the statement of well you guys bought it right it's your game now you can do whatever you want with it which seems to be an attitude sorely lacking from a lot of developers nowadays japanese there's a real feeling of like i don't know lucas sing it i'm like no this is my baby it's gonna be how i want it uh so that's nice uh also this is really weird and i'm not sure where it came from and i'm not sure why it's always assassins creed but ff15 is also getting an
Starting point is 01:13:41 assassin's creed crossover event event happens in a few days i think yeah uh you're gonna play as an assassin in the goddamn the fucking ff15 engine but it's like it's like a town where they love assassins yeah and that's it and it's and it's you're not playing as an assassin you're dressing up as an assassin and it's that fucking weird mucle chocobo festival shit yeah it's apparently gonna be limited time so if you care check it out i guess why is it always assassin's creed why is ubi soft so into this i think it's because it does have a lot of craw like and it's always between these two companies too well because they own no way no no yeah they don't even try i was so somehow thinking that ubi soft was idos for a second you know but yeah what they are ubi soft is idos
Starting point is 01:14:36 aren't they no aren't they square enix owns idos so when there's tomb raider shit like remember when lightning dressed up as lara croft and remember when squall remember when there was dead spaceman armor in dragon age no yeah you do remember when lightning wore mass effect shit yes that was real someone sent me to that when i was confused about this shit yeah remember when snake dressed up like the assassin see that one i actually remember because yeah it made sense because that looked cool in the area of the time because yeah but um do you know the the cosplayer leon that always cosplays gladiators is super buff mega man yeah i've seen yeah you see his jinn kazama cosplay you saw that i saw it you saw my phone see his face yeah i saw it yeah i seen it
Starting point is 01:15:32 yeah okay just making sure yeah yeah i've seen it all right that's good ff15 continues to be oh you know what i forgot to fucking put it in here but there was all it's also about ff15 in which tabata says that in the story updates for the game they're interested in making luna fran an even stronger female character than before and it's like that bitch is in the game for 12 minutes motherfucker you fucking stupid lying asshole she is not even a character well they want to expand upon the way they the way they talked about that fucking game story about how like oh you won't need to watch king's glaive to like you should probably watch king's glaive because there's no story in the fucking game like is absolutely uh guys well said man you didn't play 15 there's a
Starting point is 01:16:18 character i played a few oh yeah i mean you didn't beat it uh there's a character that goes from evil guy to face and like redemptive arc but the the cut scene or um like explanation for why that happens is not in the game oh but but it's in so king's glaive no it's not in anything no it's just nowhere so like you you meet up with the guy and you're like gonna fight him and he's like i'm gonna help you out because i'm a good guy now okay and the characters go what and then that's the last time you ever see that character sounds like baby driver so yeah characters just change allegiances for no reason oh that's good that's always a good way to make your story to have characters act irrationally for no reason yeah it's always my fucking favorite character
Starting point is 01:17:05 dammit i thought a satirical thing is kind of neat the only thing i'd say that i'm like eh is that they're all wearing assassin's creed one yeah garb which is strange i thought they'd like make their own and make it like a weird mix of of final fantasy 15's like costume department and and assassin's creed but it's just it looks kind of plain like we've seen such elaborate fucking assassin's creed uniforms etio and the like so just like you always go back to the plane all day or so that's that's strange well it's funny that you mentioned uh all tire murderous people who wear costumes i do yeah because there was a recent incident down in the wrestling that matt you alerted me about and you're like this shit's crazy this
Starting point is 01:17:54 shit's nuts this is going in uh yeah sometimes you work yourself into a shoot and you don't want that so you want to walk me down on this actually because you actually seem no more about it than i do so at a triple a uh event in in mexico uh i believe it took place in mexico uh sexy star sexy star who uh uh probably stars in lucha underground as well a lot of people that start in lucha underground star for all types of promotions they can just do whatever they want yeah um was in a match with uh one uh rosemary who used to be you and t and i believe and um sexy star put rosemary into an arm bar and like then started to like really torque her arm to the point where it's like well i'm going to dislocate your shoulder
Starting point is 01:18:41 went from a work arm bar into a shoot arm bar now if south roland's or someone does some high impact move you never know exactly maybe at all times you're fucking by a centimeter by by a centimeter like people get hurt all the time but it's hard to fuck up a submission because it only happens if you know exactly the amount of pressure you're putting on what angle i've decided to put on my full strength on this thing that's not i have to go beyond um and dislocated rosemary's shoulder and then just in the back uh it was like what the fuck my shoulders dislocated and she apparently mumbled an apology like not not even that just mumbled and it made excuses or whatever some bullshit everyone in the locker room is like what the fuck was that yes the wrestling
Starting point is 01:19:31 world is a fire with the feeling of what the fuck so why did you intend to injure your your matched partner in a thing that could not be seen otherwise and you knew exactly what you were doing yeah so apparently rosemary didn't say anything about this because she was like a cooper in the hospital whatever then she heard how a sexy star was telling people oh it's a work it's not real she didn't actually get hurt don't worry about it and then she has to come out and go like no my shoulder's super fucked up yeah and just basically i called her out like what the fuck was this like i can't believe it blah blah blah so this is very strange because our exposure sexy star is sexy star she's pushed as a massive face in lucha underground goody two shoes everyone
Starting point is 01:20:17 use the power of positivity you can do anything even though apparently she's a super evil heel everywhere else really i didn't know that part of it i was told that she's a super evil heel in triple a someone may have lied to me i'm sure i'll be wrong how do you become a super super fucking evil heel with your name is sexy star i don't know i don't know that's so the other weird thing is a big fucking heel for real uh the weird thing is that i said i was watching lucha underground season two and like sexy star comes out i'm like oh boy here we go she's a decent wrestler or whatever she's good and then she has the the nomos match yeah nomos mariposa it's great she goes fucking mental in that just batters mariposa
Starting point is 01:21:03 all over the place and it's an awesome match and then when the like basically a nomos matches and i quit match yeah and then like towards the end she's all bloody and beat up and then the fucking ref gives her the mic and says what do you say sexy star she goes fuck you yeah it's amazing it's great so i thought it was really funny after seeing that match just like a week ago and this goes into this i was like huh i see maybe not as face as as lucha underground so before you before you get your wrestling action figure make sure that they're not a serial murderer or maybe a big piece of shit yeah so everybody out there with their shrine to hardcore holly remember i don't think he's dead crash holly's dead you can still have a shrine
Starting point is 01:21:54 anyone you like lots of people have shrines to the living people yeah so that kind of well he's got that shrine yeah we don't want to talk about that no he has that shrine to his action figure of giants that had the neck cast on jesus christ that's so it's so specific and weird like that's a joke about woolly for woolly when woolly's not here yeah that's stupid that's a good joke i just i saw that in his action figure collection i was like why do you have oh wait he really has that i how is that a joke and why like he has an action figure of giant with the neck cast on so when i was digging through his action figures at his old place because we're gonna do that video where we're playing with action figures um i'm looking through i'm like yeah there's nothing
Starting point is 01:22:39 and i go why do you have an action figure of the giant from wcw where he spent so long wearing a neck cast after getting power bomb that thing i don't know how come you have that one what was it about that this action figure of the giant with a neck cast on that we said yes you know what yeah that's what i want that's that i need it with the neck i don't think when that i don't want one with no neck i don't think when that was like relevant or timely that he like because what like when we got older is when we started to appreciate dumb bullshit for dumb bullshit reasons yeah when you were like 15 you didn't like things because they were dumb bullshit you like them because you thought they were cool but they were dumb bullshit so why did he think that was cool no he
Starting point is 01:23:21 has it since he was a kid i believe yeah but why did he think it was cool when he was oh because i would never at that age i would never think that was oh yeah my heroes injured fuck yeah that's but aside from the creepiness of having the action figure who green lit that action for like this guy was in a neck brace i don't think he has control of it but like this guy was in a neck brace for so long we have to have this variant story costume we need it it's important it's important it's so important guys that like that's like oh man oh man that's like terrible news i can't even think of a fucking example that that like Barrett like comes to us because you know when you get like a batman or wolverines like wolverine like night ninja action
Starting point is 01:24:10 it's like well whatever he needs that for his mission batman needs to have underwater armor because he's got he's gonna do some bullshit in the fucking ocean or whatever it is it's important but why giant with neck brace why you couldn't take it off either why giant with neck brace why so much neck brace made for giant now because his neck is fucking big it needs a big brace for long time all right what else do we got hey you know what else has been a long time coming what's that this fucking awful looking secret amount of remake just it looks bad dude well what sucks is that you're resting on the screenshot of like this dumb griffin monster with that has a protag's haircut yeah it looks pretty silly but i like secret man and good enough i think everybody likes
Starting point is 01:25:02 secret amana manna whatever the fuck mona but like i don't know man this this art looks soup it looks like it's a bundle fantasy it's very basic i'll give it that it's not a particular and the english voice acting it's coming on the playstation four for fuck's sake well it's also coming out on the vita apparently so that's why it looks like this yeah so thanks vita ruining games yeah ruining games until it gets canceled and look there's lots of time to cancel the vita so my favorite part about this is that they're gonna cancel that they're gonna cancel that vita version but the game's still gonna be ruined because it touched it it's gonna be fucking like ew i touched it you know what it's not gonna be canceled in japan i'm such a dick i love it like it's it's gonna it's gonna
Starting point is 01:25:50 come out for sure in the vita in japan but yeah if they look like this they'll not this art like this world of final fantasy looking art and like the general thing makes me feel like square nix is like let's trick people and make them think this is a dragon quest spin off i mean yeah because they're too old it'd be better to trick people if it was called dragon quest not secret amana that's a good fucking trick to play yeah it's called dragon quest secret amana like yeah like they used to do was secret a dragon like they used to do in the back in the day when they called secret amana uh fucking legend a man a game whatever the fuck it was no it was called they called final fantasy legends they called it secret amana no it was the opposite it was a bad secret amana
Starting point is 01:26:28 gameboy games that they called final fantasy legends on the gba urgent gameboy yeah but uh whatever it reminds me of that age where square nix was local i was making all those ds remakes of like final fantasy like four five and shit oh like those games enough hey so we've been trying to get a hold of the death cargo for a while and we failed we've horribly failed uh luckily luckily someone else didn't no yeah yeah to be fair we really tried maybe like three years ago we couldn't find it so katako has this really good article about how uh these these stupid idiots over at super best friends play yeah uh found uh his channel is dying yeah that's a piece of shit i hate those motherfuckers i hear the tall one's just the worst um did i do the thing right
Starting point is 01:27:19 yeah i did it looks like uh and how they found this incredibly obscure fighting game that no one has ever been able to get a hold of uh including the i can't move this including the developers so probably uh i have a question we finally got it the group said introducing their playthrough but how thanks to the eight or twelve people who finally brave the russian dark web that's a quote i never thought i would see emblazoned on a web page said incredibly unattractive matt oh no it doesn't no no no no it doesn't say that oh and they're using clips from our video is it really i don't know man i don't remember that stage i don't remember that stage yeah they just don't stage looks also and they go into it and blah blah blah blah blah so once this happened
Starting point is 01:28:09 once that article came out there seemed to be a flurry of death cargo news around the internet uh most specifically links to the new website or whatever the fuck it was saying no no no no no fucking death cargo is shit and dead that's bad it's all about gore breaker now there is the new game called gore breaker it's all about gore breaker so uh i would actually like to pull up an email early uh that we got in about this news topic yeah someone someone emailed us to give us more information i i gore breaker super i totally clicked on it there it is take your time so we got uh email at super bestfriendcast to gmail.com that's super best best friendcast at gmail.com let me check make sure i don't have the emails open great uh from a mr wilmar cool who is necro storm
Starting point is 01:29:07 sales and contact manager necro storm our good friends and necro storm so there's a bunch of super fun things uh that was said in this email yeah and i'm gonna read it because uh it's got some news uh we want to thank you for your exposure regarding the abandoned game death cargo considering debt cargo is out of market since 2015 and it's going to be replaced with another different game called gore breaker already approved in a beta stage by id at xbox we would be glad to provide you with a copy once it's released that's because every death cargo customer will receive a free copy of gore breaker and that's something they put out like the the logic on this is so baffling they're like we're embarrassed by death cargo so everybody gets why are you fucking embarrassed
Starting point is 01:29:57 don't be embarrassed by that it's awesome put it out we know you just downloaded a pirated version of death cargo but we would be glad to give you guys an exception that's not true uh and then uh offers some kind words and says contact him if we have any other information so we will definitely follow up that shit uh for uh gore breaker when that shit is in a playable state that being said i think woolly does have a physical copy coming in the mail yeah he did mention that because that was when it was like oh let me try that in case off of ebay so so hey pat yeah i have a follow-up email to that email oh yeah also the that company showed up on our subreddit yes yeah because they also sent us a private message on youtube and it's very it's pretty different to what you just oh yeah
Starting point is 01:30:44 what do you got so thank you sincerely for sharing our game death cargo with your community as previously announced 2015 we are absolutely 100 not happy with death cargo at all and we consider it a failure that's why we removed it from the market death cargo is going to replace with a much better gore or game called gore breaker gore breaker is going to be a side scroller with rpg elements from death cargo we only kept the story the soundtrack the characters and the ultra vibe we replaced all the graphics with quote unquote handmade animations and of course created actual gameplay what gore breaker beta this is where it gets we have created actual gameplay gore breaker beta was of course improved by id at xbox like you said and for windows 10 and xbox one in 2018
Starting point is 01:31:37 as previously announced on our official channels all death cargo customers will receive the gore breaker blah blah blah so there you go that's a little bit more insight it will be a scrolling rpg so there if you look up gore breaker by the way you can go and find a video by the way we fucked up all over it's not russian it's italian um sure uh you can find a video about the boobies some of the cutscenes or story shit from gore breaker are out there uh and they are ridiculous so about a year ago i remember actually looking this up and seeing gore breaker and stuff and i'd completely forgotten about it so when all this news and these messages popped up i was like what that sounds vaguely familiar and i was like oh shit yeah it is true i do remember some sort of thing we're on their
Starting point is 01:32:23 facebook because i was like we need to play death cargo and we need to on not saturday morning scrub lords that was that was a mistake it should have been a friday night but it's the cut yeah we you know we're not perfect guys we make mistakes unlike gore breaker i'm like a fucking death cargo um gore breaker i'm really i'm super happy we're living in this universe in this timeline because this is amazing this is such a a great band of time to be living in right now i mean in terms of fighting games everywhere else is pretty shit generally uh you know what's not pretty shit what's that something that you were very interested in and sent my way the fact that white day is getting a sequel which is very uh swan song what named let me do the thing named white day two swan song
Starting point is 01:33:20 i like that logo now it's important to note that uh oh yeah the logo is an evil swan uh it's important to note that there was a death a death white fuck death day there was a death cargo white day um sequel already had been an aspect in 2016 but that was supposed to be a vr game yeah and fucking was mentioned once and then disappeared fuck that that's fine and now they're back saying fuck that it's a it's not a vr game anymore it's a full on like it's a it's a full on regular video game and it should be song is a numbered sequel that doesn't require vr to play should be coming out in 2018 not all that much aside from that but what i do have to say though that's playing through a good portion of the white day remake there is a lot of cut content
Starting point is 01:34:10 that was never in uh white day one like there is optional ghosts that you have to do things certain things to trigger they're not part of the main storyline and like i saw a video compilation of some of these and some of them were absolutely horrible like in a good way where i was like holy shit i completely missed this monster or whatever this ghost and uh like that was a really good remake and i want to see like all new assets made like a new like i'm i'm interested in white day too it's only that much well i was interested in white day one so i'm glad that that like i'm glad that this like obscure korean horror franchise is gonna get to continue and they want it to be like the new korea the new asian like a horror like series
Starting point is 01:34:52 there's room there's a lot of room actually to think about it i mean resident evil is barely japanese anymore did you say room or rune i said room but i meant rune because that's the worst that's the worst segway we've ever had there's a there's a bit of charm in that that's the worst segway we've ever had so uh human head studios which we assumed were dead because they got killed by Bethesda uh has announced rune ragnarok which is going to be an open world rpg uh rune was a series that day started back in the early aughts that a ps2 like got a warrior type action game called rune yeah back in 2000 like ain't like old old and this is an open world rpg with brutal melee combat you choose a deity of one of the norse we got an announced trailer here i doubt it's
Starting point is 01:35:49 gonna have anything in it it it's it has it has stuff yeah it has in game it has in game battle shit uh and i'm happy for for human head because i was very much under the impression they were dead and fucked them over and then the last thing i knew that they made was a decent if unremarkable uh ios uh horror game uh god of evil not evil within whatever it has evil without has a generic title like that i'm glad that they're making this big thing and i'm down for fucking viking anything really yeah vikings are hot now we got senua we got got a war we got this there's a million tv shows about vikings vikings are cool man but seriously this is this to me is like less about the game and more about like oh human head survived yeah holy
Starting point is 01:36:37 but this publisher is csdf it's some sort of uh money like based like money money fun it's not so much more a publisher but seems like some sort of fun that just funds games to be like like almost like a lifeline saying hey we'll just give you money do you want some money we'll we'll make sure your thing comes out but that's it we're not even a publisher really i'm a money fund and i want some money do you possibly have enough funds no for all this money wait do you have enough funds for the money you have to have money to get money is where money is all that money is well you know what money isn't all that money's what's that darkwood's monies because darkwood's developer darkwood is an indie horror game uh darkwood's developers have decided we feel bad that people
Starting point is 01:37:32 have to refund the game or can't buy it in their region or don't want to use steam like even that or they're poor or what have you so they have decided to uh also the game's also on gog and the humble story so here you go it's up on pirate bay we're just throwing it out there just throwing it up there we don't care uh let's see let's read the quote uh steam lets you refund a game if you haven't played it for more than two hours and as developer we can see the the reason why people refunded it when we read the explanation from somebody who wrote that he needed the refund because he didn't want his parents to be stressed out when seeing the bill at the end of the month well it made us feel quite bad so that's not about the fucking quality of the game at all so we decided
Starting point is 01:38:13 to do something about it if you don't have the money and want to play the game if you don't have a safe torrent on pirate bay there's no catch no added pirate hats or anything like that dm just have one request if you like darkwood and you want us to keep making games please buy it or maybe on a sale yeah that's not that's that's the key thing get it on um i think this is like use this as a demo i think this is a lot of all i think this is is i don't think and everyone can can or should do this i think this is very very risky and i worry um this game is good i can confirm that this game is quite good somehow i don't know why i would have played it but i'm just saying uh that i played that exact version of the game and it's quite good very spooky very scary even um i i don't see
Starting point is 01:39:06 what they could have just made like a two hour demo that takes considerable development resources it does it's true you have to put something on it and also steam i find steams demo shit so weird i didn't know that there was there is demo stuff on steam but it's very odd um hopefully that works out but if it doesn't at the very least the game's name like i this is an advertising thing as well right yeah you you get a news article out of this for for sure like we're talking about on the podcast right now because i i didn't know we're gonna bring it up on podcast today but i saw this news pop up on like some reputable site and i was like oh shit wow that's big news then so who does this uh this this reminds me a lot uh but this is even farther than when hotline
Starting point is 01:39:48 miami to uh devolver was that devol they couldn't sell the game in australia right and devolver was like hey if you're in australia fucking steal this shit we don't care we don't give a fuck you can't buy it anyway and everyone's like yeah they're like don't steal anything else just just this one because australia and and and even though we said the game is good for people that don't know darkwood on steam currently is at an overall very positive 94 of everyone gave it a positive that sounds like a high quality video game yeah uh and yeah it's like it's like if you guys are familiar with sunless sea yeah it's it's that type of style of game but you're like it basically stuck in the woods and there's monsters yeah uh again we can actually play it
Starting point is 01:40:33 a little bit of it and it's a lot of fun very spooky super hard but maybe that's just that because i'm bad at it well no i think it's also that genre of hardness well we did it man we got through the news now of course what is it it's fucking it's three it's 249 on uh it's a monday october august 28th so at three o'clock uh like what fucking nintendo's gonna blow up or something and announce like metroid versus team ninja or some shit okay of course yes so metroid versus team ninja revenge for the baby that's what i got it's not metroid versus listen okay that's fine we're a two man thing right now usually i'd be stealing jokes on my phone while you guys are getting into the email thing yeah but since i don't have time to do that instead we'll just go into the email thing
Starting point is 01:41:27 hey man we do have emails if people wanted to send us a one of them uh one of them uh electronic electronic mails yes where would they send that they send it to super best friendcast at gmail.com oh man that's super best friendcast we fucked it up when we already did this bit 20 minutes ago i fucked it up i kind of started when i said it super best friendcast gmail.com if you uh if you send it to a different email address it won't get to us um i so do you have access to the file where it's like dumb star trek emails that woolly will never read no there's there's like 40 000 emails in here i can't just i could just control no but i'm saying did you find a folder no i saved them always like i want to save the ones he won't read to us to have i don't know why
Starting point is 01:42:16 would he do that the joke breaks down hey wait you know what did you watch star trek next generation hd hd yeah it is an important question what do you mean in hd no okay watch so when you watch it in hd there's a problem you know they're cool last uh season three uniforms yeah once you when you look at an hd you can see it's so clear that you can see the sweater part along their waist oh yeah because most of the time an sd is very vague it's just a sweater huh and it's like that's interesting it just looks like a bunch of nerds walking around in their pajamas for real now well then to be fair it's a bunch of nerds walking around in the pajamas it's true but rikersbeard's still there so fuck it i did you grow your beard because you like rikersbeard no i did i mean i like rikersbeard
Starting point is 01:43:03 but i like rikersbeard so cool and rikers so cool everybody rikers rikers cool in the show hey rikers not cool in the movie let's let's get into the emails i got an email called callouts from mr travis touchdown not quite but says duper best friend it's the fucking shit fucking this is live god did it just read the email all right duper duper super best friend cast no dear super best callout bros that wasn't even close to what you were doing that's why i got upset all right uh in the past pat has been called out for overusing the word egregious matt has been called out for overuse of agree to disagree that's wrong that's wrong woolly's thing woolly woolly might say that more to us but you say it too woolly to fuck with him yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:43:54 that's it oh my god yeah that's totally true i say way too many things too much now despite that that's wrong let's continue because here's what really matters yeah well for the past four episodes for roughly one month's worth of podcast woolly has somehow slipped the term choginga into a conversation pat and matt please call him out on this the next time he does it until he stops he says this he has said it but i don't forget what context he has replaced the word super in his lexicon with the word choginga it's like when he stopped he stopped saying safe or protect or safety with mammaroo yeah you just got to say mammaroo thanks for the heads up travis we'll i'll make sure to so if you see woolly say the word choginga somewhere listen carefully or look
Starting point is 01:44:38 at our reactions and we'll do a thing well that being said that email's a little that's from five six days ago i'm starting to find like choginga i think the era of choginga is over i think the era of gogi like him over using doji we say gogi for anything now because it has no it can't be you can't pin down a lifestyle like that you can't put a label on gogi you can't do it can't do it we got an email coming in from emergency email saying the emergency email and wireless network new product safety alerts have been issued well that's a great question thank you uh we'll get back to you on we'll get back to you on that uh that's a that's a good one i appreciate oh i just signed out of the email now i'm wondering how that is even possible to be fair sometimes when i stream
Starting point is 01:45:30 and then the intro is done i'll click stop streaming okay oh yeah i've done that yeah it's because the button's kind of just there the one that's really bad and it hasn't happened in a bad way yet but i did it the once it was like oh it's that i went to like you know you go your splash but you're the page that doesn't have you talking on it yeah and i was like stop streaming but i didn't stop streaming i stopped recording and then i left the stream on for like 10 extra minutes yeah there's also it was like it all the time with me and Liam we're recording a thing and obs but we're just streaming it with no audio for like 35 minutes oh i remember hearing about that don't take your dick out anywhere near your camera i'm not taking my dick out right now take
Starting point is 01:46:08 it outside at the camera yeah we got a uh email coming in from bailey asking uh dear super limited runtime friendos i was recently playing a game i love near and dear to my heart when the servers went down and the game was unplayable for that downtime it made me realize that the game i love is on a lifeline that once cut ends the game once that gets cut off ends the game permanently unless there's measures put forth you know make it offline like yeah fans or something yeah it also reminded me of ross scott uh from freeman's mind uh rant on games dying what game will you miss when the servers shut down a component of or a game system breaks and it's irreplaceable do you think there should be a larger effort to preserve games like movies have the you know the the the database
Starting point is 01:46:53 and all that stuff okay in the original state or maybe preserve the final updated version of the game so everyone who plays an mmo knows the fear yeah of just one day that game's just gonna die there's gonna be a lot of really fucked up wow players one day that are just gonna and the important thing is to give them a new crack addiction to latch on to but that's not just that fighting games die uh shooters die like i can't go on and play day to feat anymore there's no one to play i played 10 matches a year or two ago and i thought there were people but they were just robots right how long to take you like i was like oh man i still got it and then i was like like i i miss the an era in which third strike is still popular desperately like that's still my
Starting point is 01:47:47 favorite fighting game you could still that you know you could still get people to play that though yeah if not on an official console thing people play that all the time on fightcade for example yeah there is a movement to keep the question the question is more about like and there's something else that shit's just fucking gone uh i think it would be a real shame if you could just not get anarchy reigns multiplayer going ever again well i mean eventually they're gonna shut down the 360 and yeah no so that's when unless it makes its way over to other consoles because now no one plays it regularly no one played it when it came out yeah but if you ask people now like if you're a streamer or whatever yeah remember i saw lame wanted to do a stream of it and he put out a big fucking call
Starting point is 01:48:30 saying hey i'm gonna play it at this time yeah and was able to get matches you can get matches i did the same sort of thing with godzilla and ps4 it's multiplayer is it's kind of fun and i would know one plays it so i was like oh the you know anarchy reigns is the one because while single player is okay the bulk of that game is online and it's a good multiplayer game i like it i was i was sad when sasus creed multiplayer went away the one that cuts me deep deep deep brotherhoods you mean right brotherhood yeah that was good for a multiplayer but i never got all that brotherhood fucking versus mo was great the one that just cuts my soul to the core is the original metal gear online yes that's that that's one that one just because i i did get my time on that but it was
Starting point is 01:49:16 much too short yeah no i i went hard on it and then like left it was like i'll get back to it later and then it died before i came back to it right fuck uh do you think they should put more effort in preserving this shit i do uh certain things yes certain things there should absolutely be some kind of repository like there's a film deposit you know there's an in the states they have a national film institute that just takes old movies that matter but how do you keep multiplayer going you keep extra controllers see the problem with this is that in film the movie studios have the masters yeah and they can and they guard those right properly like and they can make copies and they give them out right in the games business oh my god we have heard so many fucking stories
Starting point is 01:50:06 from every company just oh yeah they just burned it all the game shipped just burn all the documents and if your games are like based on a license like you have to burn you gotta do something but then like stuff when it is taken away from digital stores and once basically at some point physical editions will not be able to be bought anymore i mean think about think about the the game preservation uh responsibility to to human a game that is legally not allowed to exist anymore to the point where your your duty why was that because why was it so hard uh because they lost the uh against epic they they sued epic for like not helping them with the unreal engine yeah and then epic sued them back so hard that the game was
Starting point is 01:50:58 no longer allowed to use the engine that it was using which means the game can't legally exist yeah so if you have the game it's your legal duty good thing i have my copy yeah i know right i have 10 yeah no but yeah absolute it makes me sad when games disappear yeah no going back to it i i thought i meant like other come like a mode or something but yes every game should be preserved somewhere so that somehow like like the code or i don't know the iso is available at some point where it needs to be where it's like it's not available anywhere else if you if you work at a game developer please push to have some kind of like long term master copies created i know it's a little bit of money but like you might want them someday sega has been awful about keeping its old games there
Starting point is 01:51:45 they keep releasing the same 15 to 20 games on the in their collections yeah and it makes me wonder is it because they straight up don't have any of the other ones it's a high likelihood yeah uh like i'm also really like i i was playing like an old pc game of like an ibm game and those like there's there's there's uh steps there's websites that there's archive.org or there's something like that that that will do that for some games but even then not everything's there and then pc ibm stuff in the early to mid nineties is like a delicious arrow where i'm like there's so much weird stuff there in that and like you can't find everything so yes i'm sort of the one of the things that i actually adore about good old games they'll take
Starting point is 01:52:29 games so it's like this yeah this is not gonna happen right like yo i ran dosbox and i did the shit yeah and it's not gonna happen and they go oh here you go we fixed dosbox went for this game right oh it's appreciated we got another email coming in from dire doe dire doe says a couple weeks ago uh uh oh sorry it's to dear super old man friends that's pretty good a couple weeks ago my nephews were visiting and one of them saw my old copy of pokemon yellow that i was replaying he asked if he could hop on and since i was only about an hour in no worries about save data deletion i was happy to let him play my warm glow of nostalgia was quickly dampened what about five minutes later he started complaining about how he couldn't figure out how to turn the brightness on
Starting point is 01:53:12 the screen up and this is on the game boy the game boy that's right yeah anyway my question for you guys is what is a feature or mechanic that old games had that you still feel nostalgic fondness for even though it was honestly a little broken and shitty you mean like the fact that you there was no brightness on the game yeah it's like a feature that had to exist because it's not a feature it's a lack of a future feature um like i picked this because it was a good question but i didn't have i had trouble thinking of one no when i saw it but it's too good i miss i miss i miss uh handles on consoles yeah the game cube did you know what i just thought i wanted my favorite feature of the game cube it's a really good feature that's it though you got to take your game cube around
Starting point is 01:54:01 play melee with your bros uh my favorite feature is that i miss and it was only there because it's sucked is one games just to take a really really really long time to save you would have these lavish elaborate uh save game animations uh what's an example so xeno gears has probably my favorite one where it's a fuel gauge and for a mech and when you save it it climbs up and makes a bunch of mecha noises until it hits the top you know stuff like that yeah but now that i now that or if you are on a pc you just hit f5 it just says fucking quicksave or whatever but i like i miss little details like that i miss like i miss hiding horrible bullshit in games with funny fun little mini games to distract you until fucking namco got that fucking patent and then you can't have that
Starting point is 01:54:53 shit anymore yeah uh and motherfuckers i know this is very similar to the game cube thing but like i have a couple jaguar games and jaguar games have a handle on the cartridge on the car it's a grip it's like this little tube that's attached to and molded into the plastic of the cartridge and it's for grabbing the game out of the console easily let's say you have a genesis or super nintendo cart in there it's like oh i can't get but the jaguar has a handle on the game so that you can just easily grip it and like pull you know like a bottle or something they would like make the grooves of the human fingers yeah hey look you can grab it easy but it's like that from video it's like that from video games that's pretty good uh there's also a ps with this question ps uh ps i started
Starting point is 01:55:39 working at a sex shop and every time i have to stock up or sell an autoblow it makes me giggle thanks to you oh it's amazing did you know that it's actually super affordable it's about i did know that it's about the same price as a high end vibrator just throwing it out there okay thanks for the heads up man i didn't know that it was it's to the point that it got sold in like just general stores yeah that means it's made it good for you auto and we got a final question for today uh it's from bailey another bailey is this the same fucking guy there's there is a bailey you mentioned before oh shit that's an asshole thing of me to do it's super the same guy well find another one then we can't answer we can't possibly answer that question that's that's horrible
Starting point is 01:56:31 that oh shit oh shit fill fill for time while i find a better email so the reason why i know that the audible is affordable is because i looked it up on the yeah i bet you fucking did and then i looked at it looked at the price and was like that's sure is affordable then i clicked exit on the browser and i that's that's the end of the story there's no other part to it uh i found a email from josh yes that's just what's up with pat with nothing in the in the text uh he's currently alive that would i guess be the best update right now taking my vitamins he watched um bunch of twin peaks so that's it as for all the other crippling issues i don't know what what they're at right now there's a lot fine uh i think you need to find one more question i need
Starting point is 01:57:22 to find i that was that was fucking but that that was a good anecdote there i literally think you should just random oh god i'm gonna fucking it's no problem okay okay i got one i got one i got one okay it's the most recent email that we got sure uh it came in 11 minutes go that then so it could be someone that's listening this is very popular it probably is all right we got an email from tyler tyler the tie the the subject line is what cracked me up hey guys just wondering what you think of that game clippy b made called lawbreakers i haven't played it but a close friend of mine worked on it and claims it to be quite fun despite it looking pretty generic in my opinion also it appears to have died almost instantly it's a it's it's it's
Starting point is 01:58:09 nothing like overwatch it's nothing like overwatch but it has this cool anti gravity mechanic yeah it's a good thing that games like overwatch can come out so that we can know what to not do even though we started to make this game before overwatch i mean spider-man looks great but i mean come on at the end of the day it's it's just spider-man lawbreakers is unfortunate it is like that game was built it was built to fail like i we've used the term sent to die or born to die this is actually different this was built to die it built every every every part of lawbreakers was perfectly crafted to not sell every single interview every single promotional piece of material is lawbreakers so published is it it does it have its own publishers i think it's probably published
Starting point is 01:59:00 somewhere no i mean like is it's not like um epic it epic's not like publishing it right i just want to make sure that because there's there's a thing that they could do that i think okay publisher nexon who i'm not really familiar with that sounds like a fucking korean mmo doesn't it um i was gonna say if if you know how it's really sad how um what's it what's his face the liar magician randy pitchman randy pitch boy um huge liar man he's a magician um so you know he's really sad and pathetic how he would do things like well after battle born is like this huge failure oh no there's all this battleboard porn oh no and that i mean so if i had no publisher to deal with let's say i sell published a thing which they
Starting point is 01:59:53 did yeah a gearbox gearbox right but in in the case of lawbreakers and cliffy b's boss key productions um what i would do is that i would rebrand my game very quickly yeah called and i would call it lawbreakers built to die and i would actually try to make fun of the fact that no one's playing well i mean no one's playing you're not gonna lose anything yeah exactly so what do you have to fucking lose like and just not like drop all pretenses and be like this will not be a success but maybe we can turn it into a cult thing by just being uh for context for people because this this was like a sad story that we kind of skipped over lawbreakers debuted i think last week or three before uh and it debuted with lower launch numbers than battle born did and and those were bad and
Starting point is 02:00:40 then cratered to like less than a thousand people sub one thousand a day and it's a multiplayer only like game i think you oh fuck i forgot not those 60 dollar multiplayer only bullshit this is a 30 dollar game that's but um like i i was seeing publications saying we went online and at peak hours we can only get into like 230 300 person like server uh lobbies and it's like oh man i fucked that sentence up what i mean is you see that there's only like there's not good online at that time so like this game flopped about as hard as a game can fucking flop that has any any money put into it yeah for its uh its pedigree um and the fact that like cliffy bees like advertising and interview style clashing with this massive failure it's darkly hilarious to me
Starting point is 02:01:29 and which you can we can watch such a compilation uh yeah crowd cat's got a fucking video where he just slings together a bunch of a bunch of funny little anecdotes and stuff but uh yeah poor law breakers like a poor cliffy bee in his team for making a game no one wanted to play literally for anyone that i that i've seen this played as like it's actually a really fun hero shooter why would you play that instead of overwatch or tf2 you know and there's even an interview with cliffy bee where he describes like oh we know that uh this you know this this market's cutthroat and it's like there's only room for two or three games and we don't think everyone else is fighting for the scratch yeah we don't think we're gonna be at overwatch maybe we can be two or three it's like
Starting point is 02:02:06 that's a bad plan so when i went to pecs east the fucking line to play law breakers was constant but never like not a thing there was always people there was always people but like with the people that are playing on the he asks there's a line that i never saw moved past a certain point whenever i walked by and i had no interest in playing it and like cliffy bee i kind of was always like yeah he's a cool fun guy saw him at a restaurant once when i went to la kind of a jackass he's like a david japan i didn't know he was a jackass as bad as he actually is until this stuff like i think i knew beforehand but like those interviews and stuff i'm like that's not how you fucking sell a game you don't sell a game to overwatch fans by insulting overwatch right
Starting point is 02:02:54 fuck you buy my product new mobile comes out this shits all over your doda and league of legends that shits for babies it's like no talking about this for a fighting game they're gonna be playing soon where you don't get mortal combat fans to join to play your game when you say when you tell them that they're mortal combat characters that they like are lame and stupid yeah you know as they get all defensive and i'm like but i like those characters does that mean i'll hate your characters i feel like i will hate your character now i hate you because you made fun of me because i like oh yeah this is working out really well for me now because i get to like the thing i like and hate the thing that says what i like is stupid it's easy it's super easy so you know i don't even know if
Starting point is 02:03:34 i'll ever even give lawbreakers a chance but like i don't i don't think i've seen more than like four minutes of footage it's like i see guys jumping around in the shoot just looks like overwatch a tournament over unreal overwatch tournament oh but not for the anime crowd oh hell no those guys are weirdos these are for mature people which is another great thing to say to the overwatch crowd yeah hey you know those colorful amazing designs you like that's some stupid anime bullshit you hate that shit right actually anime is really popular right now color and your game is coming out when unreal uh unreal whatever champions whatever it is yeah the new unreal thing so it's like well that has the unreal market on yeah and it's got fucking doom slayer in it so i might even
Starting point is 02:04:17 try that quick guy yeah i might try it i might i don't fucking know but i like quake three a whole bludge who the fuck doesn't like quake three quake three is the shit no wait it's quake it's quake what is it what is it what's it called heroes quake champions quake champions i thought it was i legitimately thought it was quake heroes is it actually called quake wasn't there an unreal game that they're making that was going to be driven by fan feedback and shit is that unreal heroes i think it's on they announced a new unreal it's like two years ago shooter moba's man just oh man there's a lot of them all right that's why i'm glad games like dusk and like strafe that are like hey remember this old shitty yeah first person shooters that had really long campaigns yeah they're fun yeah i like
Starting point is 02:05:02 miss those yeah so shadow we're doing hey we're done with emails i think we're done and that means we're pretty much done with the podcast pretty much uh there's still bits hasn't been that big of a disaster it hasn't uh i hope woolly's uh travels we've had we've had ones that have been bigger disasters than this well until i hit stop and the computer turns off and nothing saves never forget uh hope woolly hope you're out there having fun in uh uh uh uh another one's where the fuck is answer damn answer damn uh hope that thing that you went there to do goes well for you um hope doesn't have any lasting side effects that's not someone like a laugh is literally stuck at the top of your mouth yeah and your tongue and like your the only thing that's keeping it back is
Starting point is 02:05:51 your tongue in your teeth yeah hopefully it takes the gates so that the joke needs there's there's no rejection uh going on uh what uh we have so we have some business announcements or whatever the fuck you'd call some uh what would you call it old business uh so uh over the next week because uh i'm not sure how many days it's gonna last it might not be that many might not be that many but woolly's uh gone obviously he's in all the lps and matt and i are building a backlog of shitstorms yes to have to make sure that everyone gets shitstorms so um workflow for this week is is a little lower than it otherwise would be so there will always be at least one video a day don't freak out always but there may not be a second video every day
Starting point is 02:06:47 over the next couple days uh before woolly left we all recorded as much as we possibly could and it was not amongst everything else and it was super not enough not even close um so hopefully you guys aren't too mad about that oh and yeah i'll say another thing is that like uh me and we said it at the start of the uncharted videos that we did but uh we took a look at uncharted because we had a shitload of control issues playing uh fucking mark echo on steam again every button that we set on joy to key just stop saving stop working that's great couldn't figure out that's super good uh so i might play back up another three hours on the xbox version my xbox awesome perhaps we are gonna street wise it i might have to do that depending we're gonna i'm gonna try to
Starting point is 02:07:38 fix the controllers with another program uh billy said it helped me so that's gonna actually be gone until me and woolly make some sort of final decision we will for sure be playing we're not gonna abandon it we just have to kind of figure out the best way to do it because we can't deal with this shit anymore the game's good so it sucks but well there you go all right uh what else we got hey matt you got uh matthew mcmuscles and that's a stream and a channel those are side babies uh yeah i have no stream plan right now but if you're listening to this right now being on monday uh at the penultimate episode of of bible black did you ask austin's permission to use his face no that's good i didn't ask many people's permission that's good that's real good um so
Starting point is 02:08:22 yeah uh the penultimate episode uh happens tonight and then there's one more after that uh i like to see that you it's your it's super your fault all that creepy shit that's happening on our sub brand right now you said it was your fault i did yeah uh i might stream something over a angry spell oh yeah i gotta beat sonic and knuckles um i streamed sonic three the other day yeah and i was like i was planning to beat sonic three and knuckles because it's not that long right i was and i you ever have that thing where you you die a couple times a platformer in such bullshit ways that you're squeezing it and you can feel the the creek and you're like i'm actually gonna snap this fucking thing in half it was playing something recently where i got really really
Starting point is 02:09:05 angry but i forget what it was it wasn't a platform but you know that feeling right it's like yeah i could destroy this with my man strength and just kill it so i had to fuck it so yeah i'll sometime this weekend oh we're angry as pad i'll beat sonic and knuckles or whatever uh woolly probably put some bullshit up on woolly verses it's probably me has it's probably seven dragon balls yeah it's probably a bunch of dragon ball videos very good but oh that's it's i know more about dragon ball this week than i have known about any fighting game going to his dragon ball like move list breakdowns are actually super high quality and the fucking the fucking clip of uh of uh android 16's fucking super the final move that should not
Starting point is 02:09:46 be no the final power that should not be used i was really great a high moment there oh fucking great i'm sure that that's all content i doubt he would let that linger with when he's gone all right so uh we're gonna wrap it up and uh hopefully see you guys uh next week yeah with a new and improved woolly yeah uh and and and i'm gonna assume though we'll have the game of throne spoiler cast at the end of the end oh yeah that'll be fun um i assume he'd watch now if you've listened to this podcast thus far and there has been some horrible problem with it uh that's that's my fault probably so i probably fucked up the recording whatever so hopefully you didn't get bleeding ears or whatever and if you did uh blame woolly for not teaching me properly i think
Starting point is 02:10:29 it should be fine yeah okay you all have a good day and goodbye i'm i'm stalling for time because i don't know what button to hit because i didn't read the instructions okay goodbye okay hold on this is the goodbye song okay one one okay answer the good answer the emails when you've answered the emails mute your mics and click uno okay all right bye everybody that's fine

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