Castle Super Beast - SBFC 215: Incestuous Child Pusher is Too Pure for this World

Episode Date: September 19, 2017

Dragon Ball FighterZ, Divinity Original Sin, Game of Thrones Spoilercast(3:22) and #TheBLESSINGofMattMcMuscles. You can watch us record the podcast live on twitch.tv/superbestfriendsplay Outro: Game o...f Thrones Theme Song (8 Bit Remix Cover Version) - 8 Bit Universe Every trailer from Nintendo’s September Direct Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite DLC characters confirmed It looks like Dragon's Crown Pro is coming to PS4 Accessible fighting game Fantasy Strike hits Steam Early Access Evo Japan 2018 Registrations Are Now Open, And It Is Completely Free Blizzard's Jeff Kaplan says toxic behaviour is slowing Overwatch development The Dead Heat Breakers announced for 3DS in Japan. And that's that for Battleborn 10 minutes of Code Vein boss fight gameplay Dragon Ball FighterZ adds Yamcha, Tien, and original character Android 21 BlazBlue: Cross Tag Battle adds Yosuke Hanamura, Linne It’s Letter Time The WATCH

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All right, that's live. Oh, yeah, which part of it? Not me full disclosure. I'm kind of hungover they I also didn't sleep very good. Yeah, so evil non-canon West Coast time still fucking with my body There you go. Don't like it. Welcome back. I Had cat problems last night with cats scratching faces and so we're all just we're all lively here today. That's pretty good Today's a lively day. Um Yeah, we're all live technically. No, it's fine. I don't know. I went to one of them speak easy things again again Yeah, no, it was a good one. This is another like down the alley, whatever fucking hidden spot But it was great. We walked by that place you mentioned last time or if there's a bouncer there. Yeah means it's open
Starting point is 00:01:07 Yeah, yeah, there's no one there do not go into that We walk by that place and we're like ooh, but there was no one there I think I like so that's that's the same place as I'm talking about and like there was no one there But we just chanced it and it was fine. It was open. So damn it Are you at the place in your life where it's like every time that you're like, yeah I'm gonna have some drinks to people and you get a little tipsy If there's no escaping the hangover. No, that's not your I'm there at this point. No, no, no I have not had a weird head, you know, feeling from drinking in a long time
Starting point is 00:01:43 I know I've been able to hone it where I'm like, hey, I'm having fun Pretty drunk, but I shouldn't get much worse. Yes. Yeah, I know by now This is the time or if I get up tomorrow morning I feel a little bleh, but I'm fine But if I go harder than that then I'm like, I'll do the thing where I'm like never drink again Never drink again. I I'm like that for a week. Then I'll be like You know your limits, you know them. Well, I didn't I didn't for a while though. That was a rough period Usually that's like that's like, you know, college years
Starting point is 00:02:19 Motherfucker I spent my college years playing animal crossing So Figure it out eventually I got a letter Animal crossing now keg stands later. No, no, never Listen that be beer is gonna stay the same, but those turnips are gonna fucking rot if I don't get out there Tom looks coming for you Hi, hey, how is how is your stuff? I thought you're leading into all your stuff Just I was just explaining why I thought why don't you just go into your stuff, man
Starting point is 00:02:58 Why don't you just sit there and drunkenly shit your pants? Uh You can't stop me if I decided to do it. You could you could do your best chair to protest Hey, think about this think about this come in here You come in and people are sitting in the wrong chairs. What is that about? Yeah, they're playing in something Yeah, cuz there's no reason to sit in a different chair You could hold your hand out and protest, but you can't stop me just that At best
Starting point is 00:03:29 Right well, yeah, I had a pretty packed week. I want to open it up with huge kudos and shout outs to hi at a Our buddy who ranked who got third place at the injustice Pro-series Justice to pro-series nose yesterday is last night. Oh, okay huge televised event. Yes, PN crazy big thing Yeah, yeah, yeah He took third, you know And of course, you know Sonic Fox is there and a bunch of other guys you play he was playing as
Starting point is 00:04:04 Robin and he was fucking doing some sick shit man. Yeah, I don't know much about Robin But I know he's pretty good sword and tools and shit Yeah, no projectiles pretty good in that game always always happy to see Montreal people doing super well. They're doing it and getting the name out there. So that was dope Um Yeah for me Okay, so I guess I'll start out with We played a robot name fight on the channel
Starting point is 00:04:35 We did and then I just super beast. Yeah, I decided to keep playing it Later on as progress against the mega beast. I beat it it Is you know, it's not a particularly long roguelike you can get your way through it and you know like Sub three sub two hours that because you're super dope awesome at Metroid if you get a really lucky Sort of run where you pick up some good shit early on pick up all the key abilities It helps you slay everything really quickly and yeah, like like I got I got a run where like right off the bat I started getting like options like floating guns and floating healing things and I was like, okay
Starting point is 00:05:16 We didn't get these on video, but that made it a lot easier Um Yeah, really cool Sort of like not improvements, but like changes to the Metroid formula where it's like they want to add instead of having a Shine spark you get an ability. I don't know if there's a remix of it But the version I got was just like a shoulder urian shoulder tackle kind of thing And if you're running at anywhere above like normal sort of jog speed you do it It goes full screen, you know
Starting point is 00:05:44 And you kind of use that to like optionally boost yourself to like full speed whenever you want to so it's like a shorter burst shine spark in a way very useful really cool and You know makes the game a lot of fun. There's also like Temporary invincibility a screen clearing bomb like all these little things and yeah, really really fun game as it as it goes on It's kind of samey bosses Bless bless things. Yeah, but you know, but it was it was fine But I will say the final boss the fight against what it is fucking incredible It's a really good final bar in fact fighting the mega bees
Starting point is 00:06:24 So the camera like zooms out good and you become like a dot And you're just fighting off like but you're just a pixel Fighting off this giant thing on this in the sky and it's really cool Yeah, I said they did a really good job with that. Why did you start playing it? Like even for the video slow beef told us about it Yeah So slow beef told me about it and I played it a few days ago and I was all the story and the mega beast and all that I'm like, this is awesome when it came down to playing it. Oh, it's kind of like
Starting point is 00:06:59 There's not that much Maybe you need to play it longer like you're saying it's it gets better as you go on But like when I was shooting things and just generally moving around like this doesn't feel particularly great Yeah, that's because it feels like metro. It's super Metroid and to me just they went for the exact feel of super Metroid Well, we just said the exact same thing with completely off the innings. Yeah I don't know. I just like I mean I've mine was without the fecal matter But I played Metroid in the past and I was like this doesn't feel nearly as good But then again, you think Tekken feels like virtual fighters. So sure sure
Starting point is 00:07:32 No, I feel like the you know, the aim up aim down jump flip just get your get your screw attack type thing Charge your shots Vertical stages shooting things off the walls like the pretty identical like sort of setup was you know and online like the map with The hidden locks discovering what's hidden in the room I'm not saying didn't play like much where I'm just like the controls and just shooting the feedback of shooting Just wasn't very impactful and I was just like yeah, like I'll have to say that axion verge did that Yeah, like highly specific. Yeah, like when I played axion verge I was like, yeah, it's just like a Metroid thing and it just felt good to shoot not saying this game is better
Starting point is 00:08:14 And not at all. It's just like it's I don't know it just didn't strike me But I love the mega piece and all the story and set up the opening intro was like I was like, oh shit Flash is bad robots good. Yeah. No, that stuff was fun. Maybe I'll give it another shot I mean, I think I think if anything like the part maybe that I think about maybe what describes what you're thinking is like It doesn't do like if match super Metroid was made. It's not made like a super Metroid was made today It's not they didn't go like further with it or try to smooth it out in any ways Or like make it like kind of like fusion even they really wanted it to be like super Metroid So to that degree it feels like a super Nintendo game, you know, they there's nothing about it
Starting point is 00:08:56 That's really looking that really looks or feels like much more modern or advanced So, I don't know what to say, but either way I enjoyed it. I thought that was fine. I Also spent a bit of time playing fantasy strike online now that that is on steam early access So Yeah, looking a lot more polished they added a lot more To the to it and finished off a couple of the animations and things that one is gonna change the name I don't think that's gonna happen. No But the online was pretty solid. I fought against a bunch of de-graze and fucking
Starting point is 00:09:34 It seems like a lot of people are using him, but you know, it's a bit of a tricky match for Me with my precise watchmaker, but it's fine Um That's pretty dope. I then decided to sit down and see what all this noise was about death note Oh, yeah, so I watched death note. Oh, yeah, I gave my review when you were Love that. Yeah boy Wow, that is
Starting point is 00:10:05 Not what I wanted Um And I was willing to give it so much leeway Because of you know, okay the manga and then the show like I'm like those things the other show. They're out there there They're fine and then three movies and the movies where I'm like, you know what these are weird, but sure, right? You did it This is dead dead Netflix death note is what happens when the same book and the same demon are In the are in the story
Starting point is 00:10:37 But everyone else in the world has like half the IQ of the characters from the original Everyone is infinitely dumber and makes infinitely dumber mistakes and the police Smartest guy in the world. It's so like every you feel like like actually the cop Uh, his dad is like the smartest character in the show. I find It's not a show, but I mean Like everyone know I just feel everyone is Ridiculously stupid and ignorant like moments of of like just obvious things where you know, oh, there's a the fucking Like they pull basically they this time they pin it all on Misa, you know instead of trying to make LB
Starting point is 00:11:19 I mean instead of trying to make light be the the full mastermind or whatever But he but when she does things like go like oh, um, you know, you like God should I even get spoilers like is it doesn't matter do we have to okay? I'm gonna talk about spoilers for death note the movie So like stop listening here if you're concerned about that. All right, so at the part where they're she's like Hey, I wrote your name in the book light. You better give me my fucking book. It's like, oh god Oh, no, you betrayed me, right and then runs and then fucking grabs the book And then turns it to the last page and sees his name there. Yeah, and it's like
Starting point is 00:11:56 Why don't you just burn that page right away if the whole discussion about like burning the page is a thing And she's like if you give me the book I'll burn the page with your name on it so you won't die at midnight. He reads the book He gets it in his hand. He's seeing the page with his name on it. Just fucking burn it. It's right there in front of you solve the problem but but wasn't the actual like thing that he did something much more Advantages in the end of the movie at that moment that decision could be criticized for being stupid But what he actually wrote you wrote that really elaborate thing which is the most ridiculous thing Yeah, everything about the light of this movie is set up to be a
Starting point is 00:12:35 Moron an emotional moron, right? That's just going like I love I'm whatever. He's also incredibly smart But the movie says it's such bullshit. Wait, does the because tell you he's incredibly smart He's just he's just introduced as a fucking guy that's solving that's doing tests for other people at school Like he's he's a nerd watching the sports and he's going ma Right and so all of a sudden out of his ass He pulls this fucking Jojo heist and that is that that's where the movie failed because if everything out like like if everything else Remain consistent, you know The characters were dumb and the girl is dumb and the cops are dumb and L is dumb and everyone's dumb
Starting point is 00:13:15 Then you're like fine if that's what the world is but then the movie is dumb because it's like no no Suddenly he creates this genius plan at the last second in this most elaborate way with like no time on the clock It's like fuck you movie. No, he's done get the fuck out of here You couldn't have pulled that off that character has done nothing to convince us that he has that ability of thought or like problem Solving because it was so elaborate. It was insanely elaborate now light Yagami in a heartbeat would come up with that shit because he does it 18 times from beginning to end I felt like man We should probably do like like the anime does a little bit here because then because it'll be the people be like wow
Starting point is 00:13:54 That's like that's like the cool thing It's like it's even though leading everything up to that point and have anything near that complexity and here's the thing is I went in Like after seeing like the backlash and everything online. I'm like look look look. I'm going in neutral I'm giving this all the benefit. I'm gonna just wait and see you know and You start out and like the first moment I gave it pure benefit of the doubt despite like kind of cringing at the beginning with the high school stuff because it's like yeah All right, it's American high school. You got to establish that but then you fucking you get to the part where they're like, all right We're gonna do the Lindell Taylor moment now the Lindell Taylor moment in death note to me is fucking
Starting point is 00:14:31 Crucial it's super important It establishes the characters and it makes it so that you see how far ahead these guys are at like out thinking each other and Tricking each other and like how much smarter than you the viewer they are, right? So the fucking news conference pops up and Lindell Taylor is there and he's like hi. That's my name I'm gonna catch you light you're I'm gonna catch you Kira your evil and but it at it up And then he just sits there and waits And then he gets a fucking heart attack and dies live on camera Yeah, cuz lights like fuck you right and then you go. Oh shit, right light and then it just cuts to L going
Starting point is 00:15:07 Gotcha bitch. Mm-hmm. I put a specific thing so that every area of like Like I was broadcasting this to different countries and different places and furthermore different boroughs So I now know you're in northern Japan because you killed him while we were broadcasting to northern Japan furthermore that was a criminal and On mine, I'm just L. You don't know anything about me But holy shit now I know you have the power to kill on site with a face and name that's fucking crazy Let the games begin in the movie. It's much more simple. We're just Alice himself shows up and it goes
Starting point is 00:15:39 Yeah, my name is L and I have my face hidden It's it and it's it makes no sense because it's like okay the Lindell Taylor thing again It establishes right away. I've narrowed it down from like infinite world possibilities What's one right house justification for thinking it takes place in Seattle? Do you remember? Yes? He goes I've been feeding the the criminals out to To to see like if they'd he'd be killing according to what I'm putting in the in the police files Yeah, and then he goes yeah We watched the live broadcast or the guy did the salute and then got hit by the truck and that was what let me know
Starting point is 00:16:14 Yeah, he was in there because it was only broadcast in Seattle, but that's fine That's fine But the problem is that again not as cool when you replace it with when you replace them that moment of that I'm describing Yeah, with him just walking out and then going I'm doing a press conference It's like the fucking last thing L would do on on the planet Earth would be walk in front of a bunch of cameras and Talk to people with his normal voice. Oh, this is the new L sure You know and it's like you're telling me the guy who was raised in a secret orphanage For a secret thing to become a hidden detective
Starting point is 00:16:47 Right and and you remember his whole thing is solving crimes behind the scenes and then going back behind and then remaining in the shadows Right, so he sees this Kira thing coming up as like holy shit. This is a pretty important big case I got to solve it and you're telling me on day one not without even without even knowing the stakes on day one The first thing he does is I'm gonna treat this like no other case Walk out and reveal my existence to the world and show that I and I'm here and then say my name even Like or are the letter of my name and show that I'm black and who and hear my voice unfiltered What the fuck kind of L would do that? I guess it's the dumbest thing in the world American one this though the whole thing he would do like he's all about being not exist not existing
Starting point is 00:17:28 Right and he likes dad in the movie even goes like when they first go. Oh, this guy one of you Yeah, it's like oh he exists right and law enforcement. I'd imagine that if anyone has heard of him They've the line was oh like wow he exists. Yeah as in he's that much of a mysterious force That's fine and then suddenly no no cameras. Yeah, I'm out here for the world and then you don't even it's fucking stupid So it's a dumber version of all those characters. Of course. She's dumb because she's like no no fuck the consequences I kill everybody and I tell you I Like when I saw it when I retired on the the pockets you weren't here on I was like I was reasonably entertained through the stupidity of it
Starting point is 00:18:08 So I was like yeah, it's like I give it like a five or six or whatever But I give her her and her like Misa style character whatever she's supposed to me. Yeah, me or whatever She was absolutely dreadful like she was the point whenever she the camera showed her I was like I'll get her off the camera. Yeah, she was so annoying. Yeah, so like flip-floppy where I Felt it didn't justify her becoming like a psycho that really wanted the power Well, she was just like I love you and I love like being a god like hanging out and being like Kira with you and then Just suddenly it was like no, I wanted all for myself my fucking block Yeah, there wasn't like any moment that I don't remember at least a moment that kind of led up showing
Starting point is 00:18:52 Hey, you might not want to trust Darrell, but I'm not sure it was just you weren't like she just flipped the switch and now I mean exactly and you can try you can even you go like, you know what chalk it up to hormonal Teenage whatever right you can do and you can excuse it in any way you want to like 20 But she was properly annoying and like played the way that you'd almost expect her to be you know But the fact that like again, it's just like fuck the consequences, right? She's clearly going no, no I don't care what you have to say. I think you need like I want to do what's right And then he doesn't even think for a half second that she would have been the one, you know She's like, oh god damn it Rueck fucked us, you know and or whatever and like in and just going like oh, no
Starting point is 00:19:32 It wasn't Rueck. Oh god, then how did this happen? And he doesn't like she switches so yeah starkly that he doesn't even suspect her because why would she be like You don't even spend a half a second thinking about access to the book. How many people there are three It was not me and it was not Rueck and furthermore Rueck was like being all coy Who could it have been? My dad, you know, and he's like, okay, you're just a moron Answer me this in the manga or in the anime did I can't recall if he did but did L have a super laser gun from the future? No, L did not have a super laser. Okay, so that was just in this movie
Starting point is 00:20:12 That was just takes out a super laser gun that only he owns. Yes And furthermore L does not have a running through the streets like knock around intro to sleeping dogs chase scene Yeah, where you know, he freaks out if he was another character that would have been fine But like up until that point. He's just like he's just in his room. He's just tapping a computer He's just calling on people and then I'm a parkour guy because he has his free cat because oh, no, what's hurry we get it Right. Sure. Sorry. Now. Here's the thing though If L in this whole chasing and fighting for justice bit There's a moment where he swerves his car because he's so emotionally angry and raw that he swings it into a fucking
Starting point is 00:20:51 Phone booth We're putting that phone booth into a bus stop and crashes and people go oh my god And it's like you were seconds away from murdering like three people if you did if you ran over those people He really loves Watari if he ran over those people Can L still stand there and be like no, I'm gonna come for you light. I'm shutting you down Yeah, can you still be all about the justice maybe rolling over random people on the sidewalk can't say fucking You know, I do like the idea of actually pushing L It wasn't done properly in this movie
Starting point is 00:21:27 But I like the concept of an in a death note story pushing L so hard that he does get emotional Like that's interesting sure, but the movie didn't do it And I mean well look you have you have near and mellow for that in the you know in the actual series But the point is that like at by the end where I'm just like my eyes about are rolling out of my head And I'm like hey Willem Defoe is great. Yeah, Ruk is awesome. That's all there is to say about that. I Had one moment where I'm like, okay, there might be something interesting here and it's when you see The like one of the final shots is like hat mask man like covered walks in puts the death note on lights body Yeah in the hospital and then walks out, right and then
Starting point is 00:22:12 He wakes up puts it under his pillow and his dad comes in and he goes hey son. It was you. Oh my god, right? And in that moment, I was like Okay, you might have something interesting here because I thought when his dad said it was you I figured out your Kira I thought his dad basically walked in did that with the death note like found it as evidence And then put it to see what L would light would do and then light took it and paid it and then he goes off fuck He knows right. I thought that was gonna be the moment, but it turned out. It wasn't that at all It was just oh dad looked at the newspaper clipping that obviously was hanging around at the house I mean that the dad would be like well you were doing awesome work as Kira
Starting point is 00:22:52 So here it is, but I'm gonna see if you're gonna hide it from me No, not even that like he just I thought he was going to have like take the tool that he knew was responsible for these deaths And just put it in lights presence and see what he would respond to it with like if you look at it and go What the fuck is this yeah, or if he'd be like but the fact that he's like oh and then hides it I'm like oh if the dad did that he would know right away That's what I thought right and then I was like no no no I saw the newspaper clipping the guy you killed was the guy that killed our mom your mom and Obviously that means it was you furthermore some kids had at your school exploded
Starting point is 00:23:25 So gotcha, you know, and then you're like great what now and then Credits because hey, we're setting up for a sequel. Yeah, because we have the audacity to do that. It's like It does well I Still have not seen any of the death notes. So As somebody who's all the way out on the outside everyone Talking about this movie
Starting point is 00:23:50 Sure has made me real excited to get into death notes Like I don't think you ever we're gonna get into that. Yeah, I know but like I Feel like there's something about this film that has to be appreciated from all the way out and it's like this This this movie and hearing people complained about it makes death notes seem even dumber than I thought it was before How so? Everything you just said But a lot of what he said was about the dumb movie about the dumb movie and its changes Yeah, I was the dumb things I was talking about was the shitty movie. I know so what's the viewing order?
Starting point is 00:24:33 Do you go American movie first and then the manga? You I think you're acting to be confused when you're not. Yeah, it's very simple actually I think what you should do if you want to enjoy life If you want to enjoy things if you if you want to see bad things and enjoy bad things then it's very different But we have to know your goals. You know the emoji movie. Okay. Yeah, so if your goals are to suffer Yeah, then absolutely watch it on Netflix. Okay, and then watch the Japanese movie and then the anime and then the manga So up in that in that no, I'd say skip the Japanese movie. No, no, no if he wants to suffer If his goal is if his goal is to just laugh at the shit then so be it, right?
Starting point is 00:25:19 So if you just want to read a good story just read the manga and then call it a day What I'm actually what I'm actually getting at in those sarcastic ways that I went and saw the last airbender in theaters Yeah, I did that was the first thing I had ever done in regards to avatar series. Yeah, and it was so bad Yeah It blew my fucking mind. Yeah, it's great. It it It's still the worst movie I've ever seen a theater. Yeah, I doubt net theater It is for me as well. I doubt this is gonna And it was so it hurt me in my soul so bad
Starting point is 00:25:54 There's like I have to find out what the fuck this is based on because it must be the worst Yeah, and then I saw that And this movie this new death note movie is actually tickling me for the original series because Everyone everyone is just like this new movie is dumb But it's dumb in the way that every movie seems to be dumb Which makes me feel like maybe that original thing is actually good Well, the thing is is Death note as I described it a lot to people sometimes is a very long
Starting point is 00:26:31 single stand battle and We're only one person has No, because one person stand is the death note and that person is you know using it They're stand powers as well as it is and there's a fucking like 50 pages of rules For the stand battle like there's 50 pages of rules in the beginning of the book to tell you how though How the worry range works and how everything works? Yeah, and then the other person's power is secrecy and infinite money and their mind and the access to Political government's wondered why like light didn't just because people talk about the net death note
Starting point is 00:27:10 Why didn't just tie it like writing criminals? Because it's not that's not the rules So you read the rules of the rules are very elaborate even in the American movie Lights going through the book and goes how many fucking rules remember if you touch the electric socket, then you get magnetized But if you don't touch it, you're fine. That's right if you stand in the shadow for too long but If you don't right how to use it, this is how it works and it's that's what it is
Starting point is 00:27:40 It's just a long stand battle and and what you get to see like an incredibly long stand And what you get to see is two fucking geniuses outsmarting each other constantly one upping each other in ways where you're like That almost that almost up until the end. I think never physically meet. It's like they're there. They're no they do But they do bet towards the end, but it's like it's it's it's a No, I'm forgetting I watch it a long time But but like either way it ends up being like a really impressive thing is like wow, holy fuck I would have never thought of that you're telling me happens every couple pages, you know
Starting point is 00:28:14 They took a long-standing battle of wits and turn it into an American movie that had dumb characters. Yeah Yeah, but they kept the tools that sounds great. They kept the tools that sounds super Honestly Pat from all the anime that you've said you've watched like death. No would be if you actually watch it Definitely would be fine. I don't see it would be nowhere near airbender But I watched fucking log horizon if I can get there that Yeah, I still say that I hear you people out there. I still say reading it's better than watching it But watching it's pretty is fine, too, you know Anyway, it doesn't have the music. That was long
Starting point is 00:28:49 Yeah, is that that was that's my review I suppose the Other thing obviously of course was dragon ball forever dragon ball dragon ball dragon ball Wait, why didn't you play Marvel got to find those seven balls because you didn't have an access to Marvel Danger all around you. So well, you're gonna be big playing Marvel tomorrow. Ah, yeah, actually. Yeah, I will Is it tomorrow? Yes, I thought it was the day after no 19. Okay. Well, yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna see what's going on But fucking DBFZ is the shit. It's the truth. I'm here to preach the word. I will shill that shit forever especially now that it's like
Starting point is 00:29:29 Like lock-in confirmed this game is fucking like it is really fun It is something over the weekend that cracked me up and with its truth Which was look people are getting excited over Yamcha Yeah, you can't stop this train and they're not named plague You can like people are losing because I I was I was so I was hanging out with a friend, right? Okay we were playing the beta and We actually cracked the joke where it's like, oh my god, yeah, I'm just back and we're just like fuck. Yeah, we'll thank fish Let's go, you know, like who says that no one and then I literally got the tweet going fuck
Starting point is 00:30:09 Yeah, we'll fang fist You know, I'm like you can't tell me was good for like four chapters Yeah, people are fucking losing their shit for this game because like but that's the level okay when I saw Tianan and and Yamcha was like because I saw it announced that way where someone's like yeah Yeah, and yeah, cool, and then I saw the scan. I'm like oh, it's a Who is that? Who is this one the tall drink of water? Like throw out 18 throw out wow
Starting point is 00:30:46 I'm sorry Throw them out he says I'm not there. I'm not there waifu fire pit. I'm not there yet But I still say that like 21s pretty fucking good I love the post where it's like what's this trash character Toriyama must be rolling in his grave. It was designed by Toriyama No, he's still doing it man. No, I I definitely like My like when it comes to like those designs I do have a preference for like his kind of older designs like lunch and stuff like that
Starting point is 00:31:22 I like those kinds of girls that he does but 21 classic Bulma 21 is super cool I'm super on board with that. I never thought I don't know why I thought this but I was like There's there's not gonna be a new character. I don't know like oh god. No, you are no, okay? So here's the thing there's always guess what Arxis always makes an OC always Arxis puts an OC in their game in the game. It's what they do in persona for arena It was Lavras and then they made a four ultimax. It was what about Festa the North Star? It's the North Star. It was row They they I don't think they might have been allowed to do yeah
Starting point is 00:32:03 Also, they don't know if they had that much budget considering it was like a seven character game But generally speaking, I just never I just thought like I have so many characters Why would you ever make a new one? Arxis OC's are a thing and Like they totally and totally expected me about that scan by first of all Like Android 21 is like the first new Toriyama design that I've liked in like a decade. Oh, wow great Well, have you seen all the super designs by the way? Yeah, okay? I have okay So yeah, 21 is fucking great But the other thing is that part of that scan is like is she behind the recently rebuilt 16?
Starting point is 00:32:38 Well, yes, like but and then I'm confused like wait when is this this is a this is a made up side This is after 16's death. Oh Did you read the summary of what the story is gonna? Oh, I didn't well that would explain your confusion It's a what if and it's a what if 16 was reactivated and Goes on an adventure and I'm like fuck. Yeah more 16 cuz I didn't expect that 16 Boo and no super characters have already been an ass because there's blue vagina and blue. There's yeah Yeah, Super Saiyan blues are in it gold gold freezes in it And I mean yeah boo's way I think boo's way ahead of 16
Starting point is 00:33:18 This is you think super characters like the female sands will not be in the game at all I thought that they would well now this firmly plants it that it's like going to be just but I disagree I think I think it's entirely plausible that the roster can get filled out by some super characters And not only that but I think it has a good chance because What's the one thing that this game can do that? No other previous Dragon Ball game can do is Have a roster with super characters in it, right? Every other game like down to like the Xenoverse's and stuff was like, you know
Starting point is 00:33:50 You can get some GT nods in if you want You know, but it's full of the full Z roster You can get some movie characters and over characters in there and All that Broly and you know, but the other Android the blue one remember that there's there was a whole Yeah, but you get them but you definitely and Super 17 would be sick, you know Okay, you say what you want about DBZ GT. It's 17 was awesome. I hope we get the great say a man That'd be fun, you know great
Starting point is 00:34:19 But but but an original Dragon Ball characters as well, right? But all that to say that like right now though In there so that gold is there right blue blue Super Saiyan is there It has the fucking means to put in the characters that have been in no other game And of all the fucking 50 Dragon Ball games made over the years It's like why wouldn't Arxist go for the the strong Super weird if like a bunch of super characters showed up before boo like boo is not in the game currently, right? Yeah, who's there? He's on my he's on my team
Starting point is 00:34:50 What are you? There He does the I hate you anyway Well, guess what he was at the launch every main okay, so every major like arc villain from Z is raised there Is there and yeah, imagine boo is not there. It's just fat boo. Yeah. Yeah, but anyway No, I'm I'm you know like I think we can get some cool stuff and I expect beers to show up Like it'd be super weird if he didn't but well, especially if there's blue with blue guys on the team But but gameplay is
Starting point is 00:35:27 So sweet and so good and I I'm really happy they did something that Street Fighter 5 didn't do when the beta was going on Which is when the servers are down for maintenance Would you like to play trial mode and it's basically a really low AI training mode where you can just practice your shit Probably the most depressing thing in the world for this SF5 beta where you'd get into training mode for half of one second And then it would be like fight a fighter dude. Yeah, all right, so but I mean and then it would crash But no, this was fucking solid you got the ArcSys style you like the same lobbies as guilty gear So little cute Dragon Ball characters walking around really happy about that
Starting point is 00:36:09 Because I had a beta code to and I got to play it for like 20 minutes on Saturday Then every subsequent time if the beta was going on in the slot of time I couldn't you got to play 20 minutes guest I'm sure you know this but you played it beforehand But like this is my first time going hands-on with it 20 minutes with a hyper fighter is Basically worthless amount of time. I just yeah got blown up each time Yeah, I did have fun the game's gorgeous But yeah, the the lobby thing was cute because I didn't play
Starting point is 00:36:35 Guilty Gear that much especially online So I kind of forgot about all that that good lobby should have had they really they have some fun Which version of the lobby is it do you go up to cabinets you go up to different people? So you go up to a person talk to them And then they send you to like the type of fight you want to do you know and the battle arena is just the big circle in The middle where everyone's like doing the little mini punches And then there's a replay dude and you can see if it's from where it shows Krillin and 18 just going like yeah That's what that's what you see all weekend. There's different sections. It basically looks like you're on
Starting point is 00:37:06 It's not kinkai's planet, but it looks like almost like Yami's sort of platform Kami's platform, excuse me But like that you can see like a couple of pathways leading off to other areas that you know are not available yet But anyway, right now, you know, there's a very basic approach to gameplay where it's like even if you So that's what's cool is like if you hyper fighters, especially if you're not they've never been your thing and whatnot you've got a homing button and you've got an auto combo and You've got easy supers so you can just so even if you're just do that bad like me is currently You can just go you can press the button to fly at the guy and then do the combo
Starting point is 00:37:46 And that's that the problem of hyper fires for me is not even the speed. It's like I don't Tag yeah, the only time I tag is if like my character is gonna die I don't I don't know my mind doesn't work to tag in during Awareness you get used to it after playing it for more But you know, you're thinking about more than just your one life bar because I also like I play from the mindset of like, okay KOF Sure I mean the funny thing is so I basically so I played my team and I played
Starting point is 00:38:19 16 Cell and insert assist here. Yeah, right right now Vegeta because he's got amateur as his assist Which is just amazingly the foot You know rapid fire, but I'm like I've been tossing dudes left right just all day every day Having a blast doing it experimenting finding some fun stuff and then I'm like, all right Yo max, let's do it and max is like, all right, let's do it and max dusts me He absolutely does he had so much more time to play the game Well, no, yeah, yeah when after you went to LA and played it there
Starting point is 00:38:58 And then when I went to LA this past week, he's like so when are you staying so I'm like, oh, I'm leaving on on Tuesday He's like, oh that works out that we can hang out because Tuesday. I'm flying back to bed Play even more that's how he got so crispy because I was like we had that time and then we had this time But like he was whooping out some trunk shit where I'm like When did you figure that out because I was there all week, you know trunk specifically because the original couple of characters He went there to specifically record stuff with the original like eight-ish characters So he got to like get a refresh because a lot because you and him covered the new characters like Krillin and 16 and 18 And on that trip he like got to do I mean max is all also just fucking better player
Starting point is 00:39:50 But I mean like he was doing some shit that I was like, okay You've taught me about how this game is gonna look in a more competitive light because I was basically just like I haven't had the time to figure out the extended combos I've been doing a lot of basic auto stuff and like magic series one two three's You know type of things and like he was doing Resets some really cool shit and basically like punishing. There's a whole game right where it's like if you do a random super and You can do a teleport behind the guy to kick him or hit or whatever just like out of the show Yeah, but like in this case if that happens he can then tag in the second super like a DHC to blow up that assist
Starting point is 00:40:26 And I was like, oh my god, I didn't even think that was a thing anyway Without getting into too many details It was a ton of fun and I I was skeptic about it And I kind of felt like I was saying up until now that you know next year Evo This is probably gonna be second place in most sign-ups. Do you think that they're gonna give Marvel? Spot to DBZ. I think what no no no for sure. They're all gonna be in yeah But the question is just gonna be have you seen that e-sports video?
Starting point is 00:40:57 They've got plans sir I'm pretty I feel like it might take over it might be number one I don't know for sure. It's kind of a little bit of wishful thinking too It's hard to say cuz three fighters such an institution. It'd be really hard I'd be I'd be very surprised with B Street. I'd be very surprised too Even though that's on like it had less entrance this past year than it did the year previous like like so That shows a little bit of a downward trend I still can't see like cuz the second game was like what was it Marvel last year this year past
Starting point is 00:41:32 There was a marvel not Marvel bit them. Well, I mean though. They there's you know, of course there's smash There's injustice. There's a tech and like isn't it like there's tech in seven was like the second most entrance To game I think I don't remember that anyway I always kind of when I look at it's always like it's a golf of players that and like from the first and second game It's never like you and too close. Yeah, at least I if I remember that so I'd be surprised This was just a fantastic game I'd say you're crazy But since it also has the enormous
Starting point is 00:42:04 Gigantic super mass appeal of Dragon Ball, which you might actually be right Oh, it has something going for it that none of the other fighters except for smash has which is Love to have nothing to do with brand recognition. Exactly. And so what is making me like change my tune a little bit is I think there's gonna be an influx of people that come in that don't give a fuck about any Hadokens or any fucking electric And they're in there for the key blasts keep calling it key blasts, right? I'm I feel like there's gonna be an influx of those people coming in to just play this and Those numbers might tip it over the edge hard to say
Starting point is 00:42:43 That would be crazy It would be but it would be interesting because anime would be top spot for the first time ever and Arxist would be in a well-earned position with the work. They've been doing as of late So what do you foresee a scenario in which like multiple Arxist games are in like the top five? I definitely see a at least one year where they're gonna have yeah guilty gear blaze blue Uh This and I mean I don't see that Am I not that's not gonna I don't think it's gonna last I don't think it'll always get played because you can't stop people from playing
Starting point is 00:43:19 Anime, yeah, they will to be there. They will have how many police you send to their rooms No matter how many toilets are unavailable. They will find a free stall No matter how many times you fucking stink up or flood the fucking hotel They're gonna play in the water can't stop them right crazy, so it'll happen But as far as like on the main stage goes yeah, I think you're gonna have a year with three Arxist games on the main stage I don't think we're gonna get four That won't be in the same cycle as the others yeah That's gonna be cycled in way later and besides we they're like they're gonna do the whole dancing thing first
Starting point is 00:43:59 You know and then shadow of the whatever Q Yeah, sure, and then you might get five but who knows in the meantime let's announce yosuke because we didn't know No one saw that one coming. I saw a lot. Don't do the dragon ball thing guys Don't do it. I don't announce characters that are obvious. We know blaze blue cross tag battle Okay blaze blue cross tag battle I'm seeing a lot of people just constantly slitting their wrists whenever new characters come up because they're all Exactly the ones you knew are going to get announced for every game
Starting point is 00:44:33 Yeah, yeah, at least at this juncture like they're only going to announce the well-known and Lynn from uni Josuke is fucking Ken from persona for arena like yeah Don't like it just makes no sense to make a trailer or at the very least make a trailer Include them, but then always include an old character with a new like if they had done like hey for persona for Rita shadow labris like oh Okay, sure. Yeah, that's a weird It's weird, but anyway roster disappointment in my heart lately Yeah, hellboy was a cool one though. Didn't see that one coming and injustice. Yeah, but anyway the
Starting point is 00:45:12 Yeah, so they're there. We'll see how that shapes up or whatever, but yeah, I'll tap out there. That's that's fine I had a very busy week Well instead of playing a Metroid like game over the weekend like you I played a Metroid game over the weekend Oh, I'm saving my dessert. Oh, yeah. Okay. So yeah, I got a Samus return So I got that at at the best buy rate and I'm in line and I also got Oh, so you're going in reverse order not in reverse chronological order meaning mining starting with yesterday How do you like it? So I got it because I kind of want I don't know where my current 3ds is
Starting point is 00:46:03 Oh, Matt much like Matt any device I've abandoned. This is a stupid problem that you have I don't know where it is. It's in a drawer somewhere genuinely stupid. So also. I didn't want to do a data transfer So guess what I was just like well, I've heard people say this is actually really really comfy And I was one of those people and a field wait, you didn't get it. Yes. I did. Oh you did I brought it into the podcast and put it in your hands Really? Yes. I have no memory of this That's strange So this is a new account then or so I just want to 3ds where I can throw in a game and just go
Starting point is 00:46:38 I haven't set up anything on it. I don't care madmen. I don't want to transfer the data I don't care anymore. I just wanted to play a game and yeah, like other people like I don't know I guess maybe Pat said it was Yeah, maybe I did I don't recall this but I bought this and I'm like really happy with so far It is comfy now that I've played it for an extended period of time But it's much lighter when I was in line I just bought the game and I left and I got home On Facebook, which I barely use anymore, but I didn't see a message pop up and it's from
Starting point is 00:47:10 Shmup God Patrick and he wrote don't adjust your hat. You look fine Oh, yeah, he told me about that right and I'm like what the fuck is this? I must he must this must be for the wrong conversation. Yeah, and I was like, thanks Question marks and he's like I was in line behind you. Yeah, I didn't say anything the whole time. Yeah, okay So yeah, I've been playing I've played about four ish five ish hours of of Samus returns and Really really enjoying it so far a lot of it's cuz I haven't heard those Metroid noises Those fan fairs in a game in a long time They were kind of there in Federation Force, but I didn't really like I didn't play that enough
Starting point is 00:47:51 But it that's the main thing like once the the the the intro story sequence just kind of finishes up with some really nice 2d artwork I'm like, okay, let's go getting ready for tons of tutorials tons of voiceovers because I'm still thinking like Metroid Fusion in my head Mm-hmm, like it's still gonna be that it's like nope. There is like no story Going on so far as what I've played before it's just pure gameplay It's hunting like 40 Metroids, which I've done a couple times now It's much better than mirror of fate and that mirror of fate was like really really easy to navigate You can find all the shit. It's still the same ginormous map if you want to make it harder on yourself Don't use the scan pulse thing. That's your first aon ability that you get if you don't want to use that
Starting point is 00:48:38 It just reveals where like breakable blocks are. Oh, my secrets are gonna be So if you don't want to use that just don't use it and you can make the game harder I'm gonna the map. I'm assuming the map is not the same as it used to be. I'm assuming it's a new map or is it Metroid on the game boy. I have no idea. Okay, so this is a remake. I think I played that one Are you are you personally familiar with the Metroid 2 map somewhat? Okay, then you would know when you yeah I'll tell I'll be able to tell within that at least the first it looks completely different to me Yeah, and like I've gained all like the this I just gained the spider ball and everything and I'm just really enjoying it The controls and the melee counter strike is amazing
Starting point is 00:49:20 You can do that from you can do that hanging on the on on a ledge And if a creature starts coming up towards you, Samus takes her back hand and fucking just does the melee counter So it's really really good fun so far. So I'm enjoying that I Played Octopath Traveler, which is a new yeah square NX RPG They released a demo on the switch after that Nintendo Direct isn't it amazing how people have tried for years to do things with voxels Yeah, yeah, they've tried to get this whole thing going
Starting point is 00:49:51 This is what they're all you needed to do was just have flat-ass fucking Final Fantasy sprites It's fucking gorgeous and then I'm a normal Like pretty looking background, right with lighting and then you give it the most basic After-effects explosions in battle and it looks glorious. It's exactly what like all of those attempts were trying to do Yeah, you don't get it man. All Kirk graphics technology is built for polygons You know, it reminds me of like what Ragnarok was attempting to do back in the day a little bit What's weird about this game is that even though it's like pixels and its character designs like are like Chrono trigger or classic Final Fantasies the stories read these characters are actually super brutal. Oh, yeah
Starting point is 00:50:32 I'm like like you starting out with the dancer. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they're not holding punches So Willie this this game right now. It's working titles Octopath Traveler Yep, if you were a sane marketing man, what would you call this to give it any sort of chance in North America? Not Octopath Traveler I thought eight travelers or the eight travelers because that's the whole thing I saw I was I was talking to Shmoop got Pat about exactly that and how like cuz he came over to play Dragon Ball and like About how just like he's like I like the name. It's fine. It's like a non-usual thing. I'm like we get it There's eight travelers
Starting point is 00:51:12 Octo, but that's the best you got also when I see it. I go. Oh, yeah, that's an octopimp game Yes, that's what I think. Don't you know my point is don't throw the word Octo into your title lightly Dad Octo dad travelers have at least to have a couple like versions working versions back and forth. I'd call it bravely Octo dad Tra oh man bravely default is similarly also the worst total extreme action So any idea like what would you call it off? Yeah? Travelers is fine. Travelers is fine. I don't know they should but I really pass a pass is cool, too
Starting point is 00:51:52 But it's also like I am set sooner. It's like why would you just call it? I like I like I am set sooner. I like call it a set sooner though I know but I don't know why they're doing this, but it's called voxel quest, but it's not it's not voxels It's not it's just pop up like pixels sprites But yeah, no, I Really like the demo. So I'm gonna that comes out next year or something point. So I try it out Just the drink the Nintendo direct like the chat explosions when I don't know what the main character's name is the dancer We're just like yeah, like what class are you and it's like oh, that's like a it's a thought man, sir
Starting point is 00:52:34 We're a dread thought think man Um, woolly. Yes arena an age of barbarian story is now out on steam It's now out on steam woolly It is a fighting game where you fight against AI opponents in cages and in various arenas But in between to get to those fights you must run a gauntlet of traps But did we not Already do this. No, you did not what did we play you and I played age of barbarian, which is a platform Yes, we did
Starting point is 00:53:12 Versus fighter that was simply a versus fighter But then what did we play that would had the walking through and freeing the different fighters Was that not also the versus fighter? Yes, that was the versus there was no single-player mode And then Matt and I played that weird MMO game and it was and I and then it was hard to find But we said it's because we streamed it, right? Because no there was No, we did a fisticuff, okay But wasn't there like where did we have that big dumb boss fight where you were like super close to beating him?
Starting point is 00:53:46 And it was like a big ogre thing. That was the YouTube video. We did, okay? Forth for it. We did a fisticuff and a YouTube video Man You didn't already do it because this age of the age of barbarian timeline Yeah, it's very very confusing crying soft makes it confusing Oh, but a arena and age of barbarian story is a marriage of both game concepts Age of buberian, so I'm gonna make you play it. Um, I Also saw it
Starting point is 00:54:17 When I was in LA, I won't go on too much, but it was it was fantastic I really really liked it. I watched the original it like not too long ago like two months ago And I was like man, this is aged poorly in some places. It's also like seven hours long, right? Well, because it was like a TV movie. So yeah, so yeah, basically it was did they include all the kid sex this time? No, okay Producers like how about we cut out that part where Stephen King's like all the children should have multiple hours of sex Got it Okay
Starting point is 00:54:54 Just want to see the kids like what I do just wanted to know I don't get it She needs to do that with the boys to give them the morale and gumption to leave the sewers Yeah, you think that pop up on rotten tomatoes if that was a yeah, you know They wouldn't have like the highest like the Stephen King would be more like it's a metaphor That's what a lot of people say it's a metaphor It's like how about have a metaphor where the girls and all the boys go we're gonna be friends forever It's a man. They leave. It's a
Starting point is 00:55:26 It's a 10 page metaphor Yeah, so but yeah, I steamy steamy metaphor. Well because it's in the sewers There's a lot of stuff going around. I I really really really like this because There's lots of good scares that kind of made me go wow I've never quite seen that before or that actually is really freaky and I'm not liking this right now Remember stranger things when they had to defeat the enemy by having kids sex everywhere in a witch I didn't know this. It's the only way will manage to stay alive on the upside down. He kept having sex That's that's the only way
Starting point is 00:56:03 I'm gonna kill you kids. I'll do anything story with 11 and all the rest But like those how else you gonna defeat it because the main kid from stranger things is in this and I didn't know Oh Whatever his brother and I was like wow this feels like stranger things, but then again stranger things feels like it Yeah, so that's the whole thing The one thing I will say is that when I want to go see the Annabelle movie like months ago They showed the opening scene of it where the kids talking to to Penny wise inside the sewer Mm-hmm, and we watched that scene was like an uncut will slightly cut it was a slightly cut scene
Starting point is 00:56:40 Where it showed like the actor doing it and I was like wow, that's really different but still really creepy And there's this moment since I assume you guys haven't seen it, right? In this little clip that they showed there's this moment where he's like why'd you come down here? There's lots of coin dogs and things and oh bubble gum and the kids like ha ha. Yeah, and he goes I'm the dancing cloud dance dance dance and she's and he's like yeah Yeah, that's dance dance and then he just stops his face stops and Just stares at the kid for like eight seconds and then one string of drool comes down his mouth and the kid goes I Gotta go and he's like oh no no to stay and I'm like the Penny wise in the first one. It was what's his face the actor?
Starting point is 00:57:26 Rocky horror picture show The guy that died he was he was in the fucking the CNC red alert game. Yes Yeah, we know him Tim Tim Curry Tim Curry Tim Curry, right? He was like the Joker Yeah, where he was like ha constantly this guy the only time he turns the murder on is when the kid is literally in his grass Yeah, and in this it's like you feel like this is like barely a Entity it's like a creature and it's like it kind of loses the thread Sometimes it's fine. It's just like kind of does weird things all the time
Starting point is 00:58:03 So I I really really enjoyed it and like they're gonna make a sequel where it's totally fine to make a sequel because The kids need to grow up and there's all this fun speculation of who should play the kids when they're growing up and stuff like that So and of course I went to LA like I already mentioned was the trap had a really really good time Did a fan meet up at David Buster's? Thanks to everyone that showed up to that that worked better than round one That when we went Yeah, but it was so fucking loud. No one can hear each other basically so that's great because we don't have anything It's a search for the perfect meet-up spot. What about like a hobo park? Well, that's what we ended up doing. Yeah
Starting point is 00:58:44 I mean Parking lot is kind of perfect and except for the fact it was cold and we didn't have any food It was cold and a couple hours later. It was like all right Also hung out with max a bunch obviously talked to you guys about that before but I went to the Santa Monica beach Which is really nice Could not get death cargo working on his setup He tried for a good hour to get the controls to fucking only got a key mapper Adjity for the ages, but I left him with a build of the game
Starting point is 00:59:15 So hopefully you can get that working someday. So we played a bit more. I'm sorry. We played a bit more gang beasts and God when is that going to actually be out because it's so much more improved now There's yeah, I play this little bits of things that help immensely I played it like four months ago and it felt like a sequel Yeah, I think I feel like it's a game that they kind of want to forever be in production in an early access Yeah, it feels like it it really does So that was really fun and we do remember when we're in Burbank when we got the shitty sodas those fizzy crap
Starting point is 00:59:49 I do they were they were actually like shitty flavor It was in that candy store that we went into briefly when it was candy, right? And then there was this big huge bakery that had tons and tons of people and just across the street and it was crazy I think someone used the bathroom and then we left. Yep across the street from that on the other side There was this pizza place that I remember looking like oh, it's called pizza studio Whatever so me and liana tried to like go to the bakery again. She's like, yeah, let's try to go to that You said it was good, right? I'm like, I don't know if it's actually good. No one's allowed to eat there It's all so we go in there and they had a sign where it's like don't know stop leave now and we're like fine
Starting point is 01:00:27 Business is disgusting to us. You know what's awesome is when a place is like that place is so good No one can eat there. Let's set up shop that the first thing you see when you leave going Oh No food we saw the pizza studio place You go inside and it's like a make-your-own-pie thing where you just tell them what you want on your pizza And it's like do it like organically fresh all the shit And like you pick all your pizza like herbed garlic pizza crust flax seed Normal blah blah blah and I'll like I'll have normal I'll have bacon
Starting point is 01:00:59 I'll have pepperoni mozzarella and I think I thought about Xavier Woods for a second He just might he hit my mind. I'm like, can you mix sweet baby? Ray sauce And the the and the girl goes I sure can and just puts I'm like, oh, I hope this is good sat down to eat our pizzas and we were like This is some of the best pizza ever And one vini massara from lucha underground who rates my pizzas whenever I send them to him Since he's an italian stereotype
Starting point is 01:01:28 I sent him a picture of this and he's just like Where do I go? He lives in like NorCal and he's just like where was I'm like it's in Burbank. It's called pizza studio And he shows a picture of him driving in his car To get down there to drive like two hours or whatever So it was a really amazing pizza if anyone's ever in Burbank, uh, please go there. It was it was good stuff But uh, yeah, no the that that that was me Was it yeah was are you?
Starting point is 01:01:57 uh, all right, uh, so And I get home as they're very tiring trip I don't want to be fucked with uh-huh. Someone decided to fuck with me. Oh, that's the last thing you wanted That's crazy. Why would zack do that? I don't know So That's uh, I'm tired. Yeah lay down on my bed And much like cookies in someone's sheets Where the someone goes what?
Starting point is 01:02:26 Huh Fuck is this what and I turn over and I'm like, why is my pillow so fucking hard? Yeah Like and not the normal way shouldn't have left it hard So I put my hand into my pillowcase and there's like this full vinyl record of blasts In my pillowcase And I'm like how what the fuck is this this is platinum burg mother fuck I'm like, I've never heard of this man or this platinum burg I have no recollection of who this is
Starting point is 01:03:03 But for some reason this is in my pillowcase. That's weird. Why would your cats conspire to do that? Like there's no one here The only people did our cat sitters Know that I hate blasts. Yes, they did because that's the first thing that pops in my head And I'm like, I don't understand And my horrible wife goes I let woolly The code to get into the apartment And I go, are you divorcing me because why did you when you marry someone you honor to like Like pledge like to them their life. Yeah, that was I was there. That was part of your vows
Starting point is 01:03:42 You won't let people bless my house and and you don't betray but since you've obviously mega betrayed me I guess we must be getting a divorce And she's like, well, no, I felt bad for woolly because y'all don't feel bad for woolly What that ruins the whole thing ruined it. She's like, well, I let him in and there's like, I think there's 10 things in the house I don't know the mistake you made man. Yeah was that was trusting anyone was that you thought you could freestyle with bless I I thought I could You want a freestyle with blast and it turns out you couldn't so yeah, no one's ever allowed The blessing of matt mcmuscle's is upon us. So since I found out woolly, guess what else I've done
Starting point is 01:04:22 Absolutely nothing. I've not I've not poked around in my house. I haven't touched anything Oh, you want the time release freshness? I'm not going to do anything And I'll see how long that lasts So and I will chronicle the adventures. Can you can you can you give us a number? One wow Wow, that's impossible Because there's super what was there a picture of bless inside his toilet. There's a super obvious one. Okay Uh, lianna told me I found one and it seemed to have messed something up slightly
Starting point is 01:05:00 We couldn't use something. So I I moved it to another location. I assume she meant the toilet Why you gotta break why you gotta break people's houses woolly? She just said like something wasn't working, right? So I had to move it from one location to the other or something She was okay, but she's like I moved to somewhere else and I found that I found one there. Wow There's because there's difficulty levels. I'm sure there as as there were So as there were funko apocalypse. Okay. The funko apocalypse. Let me reiterate because this needs to be like The funko apocalypse was not my idea nor was I the shepherd of it While I'm totally fine to take this on the face
Starting point is 01:05:44 I hope other people were getting there come up and eventually Because I wasn't even the architect of funko if and when opportunity strikes. That's fine as long as you say that That's fine. But for now hold that out. Okay. I know I will I will But I don't lose if I can't find nothing See there because there's because I'll just forget about it because there's at least two Introductories, which is why I'm like, well, I found one of them You can't possibly not go to sleep But I found one of those right and and I'm like I'm surprised the other one hasn't been discovered. Okay. Well. Yeah, that's me
Starting point is 01:06:20 Did you set one to like drop on his face while he sleeps or some shit? Not necessarily I wish we had more doors in our place so you could just place them on the edge of doors when I open them up It's just a cd wax me in the face. It's so simple Okay, so that's that's that's me. That's now definitively me You guys are idiots. Yeah, you're gonna this is gonna end up with like a murder a murder. Yeah Homicide. Yeah, perhaps but for now The blessing of matt mcmuscle's continues
Starting point is 01:06:55 Keep us updated. I will I will let us know. There's something to say. I'll say it Do you think that when you find when you find nine of them? Are you gonna jump up and down about how you found them all? Okay, because there's some there's some that are like You know, there's again, there's difficulty levels But some of them are definitely like within plain sight in moments of just you like, you know When you just kind of you're just sitting there and your eyes just glaze over Ah, there it is. There's yeah, there should be a couple of those Okay, so I'll tell you this if it strikes my fancy if there's like a lazy saturday
Starting point is 01:07:30 Where I have nothing to do and I get up and I just smack my lips like I'll maybe I'll go all right Let's do it and I'll take out a camera and then I'll I'll do a thing But that has not yet struck me You know what you really should have done, right? You should have gone in there and like gone up to his brick wall and spray painted a giant photo of bless's head on his wall Facing his couch. Yeah Although there's a big entertainment unit there. I mean there was the suggestion to uh
Starting point is 01:07:58 Dissolve one of them into like small bits of powder and slowly feed it to Matt over the course of months So we've been feeding you bless for years even just at a whole bless album And I just like kill myself It's inside you know, what is that like woolly's having a spaghetti and he his four kits a little funk hop hop arm It's like, oh no Okay That's stupid All right, I didn't do anything nearly as exciting with that was my week I played a lot of player unknown battlegrounds
Starting point is 01:08:36 But that's you guys know that that's not the most popular game ever ever now Which is absurd. Mm-hmm. I heard they're banning a ton of people now. Yeah, they do that It's more popular than lawbreakers the It's definitely more popular than battleborn, which is that on the docket this week woolly Hello, there's a good battleborn story woolly. Yeah Yeah, it is. Yeah, okay Um, it's there
Starting point is 01:09:08 But the other thing that I played is I played uh co-op uh with page I played divinity original sin 2 now the original original sin I know I know that's it's a terrible name for this conversation the original sin Um, it was an rpg that came back came out and back in 2014 And it's a big thing was co-op and how you could have two players argue with each other and it would have mechanics for that The problem with that game and I tried to recently get back into it Is that the writing is just the most boring fucking boilerplate rpg shit ever Oh, that'll kill it a long rpg dude I get like you get into town and there's a wizard and he's like oh the town's off
Starting point is 01:09:47 And I'm just like come to the back of the town. I'm just like I tried for three hours to get past the first hour That's what hurts the most about reckoning if anything is oh, yeah, no, it's it's just like it's like everything else about this is Is interesting, but you're it's just kind of off very boilerplate generic fantasy fantasy. Yeah, and it does something else That's really the first one does something that's really bizarre and I've never seen it do it So divinity original sin had divinity original sin classic Which was the original kick starter release and then they came out with the enhanced edition later, right? The enhanced edition added voice acting to every single line of dialogue in the game Which is pretty impressive
Starting point is 01:10:29 It also added the ability that when you can when you add a when you turn on a controller In the pc version it turns into the console game Like every single element of the ui changes the the yeah, that's that's a standard No, not like this not for these types of games That's actually incredibly rare and I don't mean like I don't mean the interface changes From like it uses a mouse cursor to uses a controller cursor I mean every single menu changes size and moves to different portions of the screen like it's a completely different interface
Starting point is 01:11:00 All the text becomes large because it assumes you're playing it on tv. Yeah, okay, like it's it's fantastic but In the original game generic you can talk to anybody any generic dude Has things to say usually like oh what about the boat to burn down The problem is is that a lot of them have the exact same thing to say and when they added full blown voice acting There's a there's a boat burning down you go up to it. You put it out. Everyone's like yeah Good job. You you put the boat out. That's great Then you walk up and down the plank and there are three guys standing next to each other that are all generics like
Starting point is 01:11:35 You know say other characters that all have the exact same lines of dialogue And they all have the exact same questions that you can ask them about the boat And they all answer them in exactly the same way and they actually went and got three different voice actors to do all three of them That's bizarre and you talk to them and it it creates the feeling of the biggest waste of time ever It makes me hate the rest of the actual voice acting because now I feel like it's all Nothing fake dynamic. Yeah. Yeah, so the second one came out And Like I'll give you a couple little tidbits
Starting point is 01:12:15 But like it is they they tripled their writing staff and as part of their Kickstarter They hired chris avalon to help write their game. Yeah, it seems like they need him which hey guess what? One of the companion characters is written by chris avalon You can immediately tell which one it is because it's the weird one. He wrote he wrote feign in this game So they do it. I think well, he's asking his previous. Oh chris avalon He wrote all the good fallouts all the good old balder shake games uh Every good game he wrote never winter nights and co-tort to oh cool. Okay, like he's he's the guy nice that wrote the good ones
Starting point is 01:12:51 yep, okay, got it um and He recently left obsidian I believe to teach and but he still comes on for writing projects and you can immediately tell which one he wrote because he wrote the Weird character everybody is so they they added a cool system where you can either create your own custom character or pick a predefined one And anyone that you don't pick can be a party member later on So it's as if you were playing
Starting point is 01:13:19 Fucking I don't know and you just your main character can be any selectable party member like you could pick tifa as a secret of mana Yeah, exactly. Yeah They're all very interesting The one that avalon wrote is a skeleton Who is dead? and Has no problem being dead And their racial abilities in this game are astonishingly interesting
Starting point is 01:13:41 So undead characters in this game can't go into towns without being murdered because they're skeletons. Yeah So you have to kill the humanoids steal their faces And wear their faces wear their flesh and when you do that you gain their racial abilities Which are also really really interesting. Okay, and all of the Unique characters that you play with all have specialty tags that denote like oh, they have this backstory or have this back story and probably the most interesting Version of this interaction is that you can play co-op and as soon as you move
Starting point is 01:14:16 Just far enough away it just goes split screen and you can just go completely opposite My girlfriend goes up to a little kid and she expects max into persuasion and charm and all these things right So she'll be the one talking everybody talks to the kid kids starts to scream his ass off and bug eye and go crazy Because her character is just a demon wearing a person's face Apparently even though she's just a regular person Only for not all dialogue options to just get broken And the kid run away. Hmm. I see the kid running by me and talk to them and now they have unique dialogue of is she gone? Hmm and you go well. Yeah, no, and then there's an entire dialogue tree set for
Starting point is 01:14:57 Okay, well, I know them and they're cool, but you don't have to talk to them And then all of their dialogue is now tinged by the fact that they're terrified The amount of like reactivity and shit going on is astonishing, but more than that Early on you see some magic cops. I guess you would call them arguing over one of them helping people escape They cut your tongue off you fucking liar goes to cut their tongue off They go, I can't believe you lied to us and they just blow them up and give them into goo So what do you do you walk over and you pick up their leg as an inventory item? Okay, that's weird
Starting point is 01:15:37 Later on we get an elf in the party. Guess what elves can eat corpses to gain memories Whoa feed the leg to your elf party member They get the person's last thoughts which show that they were actually super guilty and they were helping prisoners escape Hmm and now we go around eating people's corpses in order to figure out parts of like every part of it is it is like a pen and paper game Like actually digitized right, but like actually doesn't but it's but but it has that much freedom Yes, and the co-op in particular is astonishing because When I say when I say, you know when you you know when you now I want to test the limits of that
Starting point is 01:16:16 Right, you know when you can split apart in a co-op game and it gives you the vertical. That's not totally unknown, right? Yeah, what is is that you can zone out? You don't have to be anywhere. You don't have to maintain in the zone. You can run a dungeon while somebody else does a side quest in town cool, okay, it is Absolutely absurdly separated. Okay to the point Where character a character came up to me and only me offered me a quest excluding my co-op partner Huh
Starting point is 01:16:50 But you definitely can't progress beyond like major points Apparently the it is somewhat self-correcting and that there will always be some way to finagle But I was reading the Kickstarter back the the Kickstarter because this is a Kickstarter game I was reading the Kickstarter stuff. There are quests you can take to kill your co-op partner Okay, so all right, so hold on like Can you do every every button I pushed reacted to me logically? In some way, but like so you can go through like hours and hours of solo gameplay Yes with someone else in the world and them doing their solo game
Starting point is 01:17:30 And then I'll come to the end of my quest and I'll go. Why is this person fucking dead? And they'll go. Oh because I fucking killed them Oh Like and and the the just the the common interactions between All of those things were just so Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and more than anything And the first game had a lot of this kind of stuff But it was so boring that I didn't give a shit
Starting point is 01:18:01 But this one actually is like, you know, you you know what I'm talking about that feeling when you start a story-based game and what in that first five minutes Whether or not it's got it or doesn't yeah. Yeah, and this one it's got it and like Man a racial ability to eat corpses to gain their memory Like in some cases I got whole scenes in some cases. I got their last thoughts and so Like we went up to a party member and the like here. Okay. Here's a sneaking mechanic when you sneak in this game Sneaking is not a binary Uh rpg mechanic. Yeah, all the sneaking stat does is decrease enemies vision cones
Starting point is 01:18:39 Because it uses a metal gear style vision cone system and it increases your speed I think you if you want to rob a guy have one person talk to them And then have the other person physically go behind them to rob them. Okay Because it's like it's it like it is a pen and paper system realized digitally And on top of all that it has dungeon master mode where it's a it's a mod suite where you can do your own thing
Starting point is 01:19:06 Where you can make your own campaigns and shit like that. It is so impressive I think like through second and third playthroughs like you'll start to see some of The whole oles because they're ha it can't be oh, yeah No, well in fact that the game is is somewhat like it just came out on the 14th Like on the controller interface if you go into a map screen and hit a certain button You you break the interface and put into some debug menu Like it is it's a little rough around the edges But I just mean in terms of the freedom of like interaction and the dialogue trees and things like that like that's definitely something where
Starting point is 01:19:39 Yeah, it's gonna take maybe a second or a third playthrough and you'll start to see like, okay That's not as open as I thought because it's the implications of what you're describing sound incredible And that's the kind of RPG everyone's everyone's everyone's ever wanted that's right where it just becomes what you do And and doesn't have you on this kind of hallway, you know Um, it's interesting though because like a kind of well whatever there was a What you're talking about with the co-op thing reminds me of a like a design idea I remember having of like imagine if you played an RPG and like You had your your outset town
Starting point is 01:20:11 But like you were connected with like let's say five other people just five And they all had their own town and you shared the same planet Yeah, and you worked your way around the mini mmo But when you got to that other town that the person started in whatever they did was already affecting it, you know And you and you didn't have to play in sync. You could just uh save and upload And those effects would somewhat similar to that because going into a town that a player has already been through is fucking interesting You know that's a really cool thing. It's this kind of thing where it's like I don't know if that's the case because it seems so mechanically depth in depth that it is like baffling
Starting point is 01:20:48 Going to the gaff thread every single post is asking of that entire thread is asking about a new mechanic that I don't understand Every single one is like, how does this work and people go? What is that? What is that? Yeah fucking thing I like no I like that when you click on like community like pages on steam And you just see like a list of questions that are like not even remotely your experience and on top of that It also has some quality of life so Pillars of attorney is a fantastic game, but it is very much balder's gate again
Starting point is 01:21:19 It's balder's gate three right and it has some little Uh little uh improvements here or there this game has a lot of these massive improvements that I would never have even thought of But it's there nonetheless, and it makes a huge difference So will you ever play one of these games where you get a you know, you can get a large party? And matt I'm sure you have you get a large party and you like the character, but you hate their class like The tales games for example Characters play a certain way
Starting point is 01:21:50 But maybe you hate their fucking guts. No, that's a bad example. Oh is it? I know you're saying tails up because you know I Because I know you're always you're always the sword guy. Yeah, you're always the sword guy But you can just control anybody at any time. Yeah, I suppose what what I mean But I know what you mean I mean is you run into you run it ollie You're going down the street, and you meet racelyn and fucking uh, what's his name kermin kermin? But you already have a fighter in your party, right, right, and you're like, but you're my
Starting point is 01:22:21 But you don't so as soon as you go to recruit a party member They go man, I'm pretty much great at everything What kind of thing would you like me to do and you just straight up pick their exact class? So Do you like red prints? Guess what? You can always have red prints on your party because he can literally be any class in the entire game So does that mean that the game is not worth playing alone? No In fact, I found playing co-op was intimidating and freaky as shit
Starting point is 01:22:50 Because I'm the kind of person who loves to have total control over everything in my game world Only to find out I would go to loot things and it would already be looted Or go to talk to people and they had already been talked to That element of chaos So Like that that like I would say that this is the kind of game that is explicitly worth doing both ways For completely different reasons. What happens if one person dies? Uh, you can resurrect them
Starting point is 01:23:17 But the other player has to do it. Yeah, okay If I if everybody dies you get a game over, okay if one person dies I imagine either you can get out of battle Or oh that reminds me so like you have to stop what you're doing make your way across the fucking map and resurrect them Yeah, wow, I imagine now I in our game. Nobody died probably the weirdest thing is how combat is handled because you can split up Uh combat initiates like a zone in which combat is happening, but if you're not in it That's fine. Just walk away So what ended up happening was one of us got into a fight and the other was able to hit the sneak tab
Starting point is 01:23:53 And because it's turn-based the enemies were all pointed directly away and was able to sneak up for easy back stabs and just Kill the entire fight straight out like every time it is such a broad system and you keep expecting it to just To just really actually break In some way or be told no, I can't do that. Mm-hmm didn't happen once it is so impressive I would I would advise everybody to check it out if even for a couple hours Just do just poke at it Just to like nudge it and see where you would think it would break and it doesn't
Starting point is 01:24:28 It's it's awesome. Okay. No, that's a perhaps a pretty good sell. Um Was that it that's that's pretty much it cool I think uh, because you I remember when you were talking about pillars as well and um, like pillars are very static game buggy Yeah, I know and it sounded interesting, but like this particular experience of co-op with people like Super far apart from each other doing their own thing not being forced onto the same screen is awesome That sounds fucking cool. Everything that I saw it do was One of the most impressive versions of that mechanic I've ever seen and it has more of them than I've ever seen in one of these games I'm seeing people who are farther in the game than me saying it's probably the best one since boulder skate too
Starting point is 01:25:11 Which is like an absurd thing to say, but like, okay, sure Um when you do that dm sort of mode and stuff is are you like a third player? They're a straight up in addition to in dialogue Okay, so that I don't know I believe you are because when you play the regular game They're the narrator is the dm Okay, he's an unreliable narrator Oh Well, anyway worth investigating what it's also worth investigating is our sponsors this week. Ooh, so investigate them. Let's take a quick word Our first sponsor this week is blue host a blue host. What up?
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Starting point is 01:28:42 Bender can't do the robot. It's the best It's so good. First of all, that's stupid woolly and second of all Oh All right, so Anyway, so it's robotic what what franchises star wars star trek aliens blade runner and Dude, you see that blade runner anime. There's some good stuff coming out for blade runner Who knows maybe you'll get something from that in this box
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Starting point is 01:29:55 Maybe waiting for you inside the crate. So that's loot crate.com actual cell from cell slash super Proma code super. Thanks. Look great. Thank you. Luke right Maybe great if dr. Jiro is like drawing up all the plans for all the different androids. He's like, okay It's okay. Oh, this one's better Oh, look at this one. I'm drawing Oh Getting sweaty turning mo kinks into reality Is this one an android or is she a cyborg like the other cyborgs who are actually called androids?
Starting point is 01:30:26 All right, I don't know if that that scam is fully translated. But uh, so well as far as I remember in the french manga They were called cyborgs and in the english they were called androids Well, it's always so really really confusing because 16 is 100 percent robot. He's like a robot So yeah and 17 18 are not yeah I used to always uh because of the french manga was what was the what I read. I used to always say the cyborgs I used to always say tension han excuse me, right? Like I used to say a lot of things Zits and tak tak I
Starting point is 01:31:06 But uh, no, it turns out that the rest of the english-speaking world always said um Uh androids because yeah, they actually would abbreviate them in the manga as just like c 17 and c 18 You know during during the dialogue boxes as well Um, honestly, it's where I'm fine. I like if it was called if they change the name to cyborgs like today I've been like yeah, yeah, well, I mean hey cyborg 009 is a thing. All right, you know, I mean But yeah, dr. Jerome just designed 17 and 18 and then made them identical And then the last thing he did was just throw some junk on it, right? He's like all right that one gets that piece and that one gets that piece There you go
Starting point is 01:31:45 This one's good. This one needs cute glasses It's an android. Yeah, it couldn't have better vision This one needs a cool mohawk It's not like skynet or skynet. It's like, yeah, make them all look the same Don't tell them don't you can't can't tell the red ribbon army how to how to run its Dude, remember driving by to get to a maxis place. I kept like looking around going. Hey, it's like the gutter It's like the gutter is seeing in terminator two, you know when It's open the chain and he goes it looks like that, but of course it's not and he's like well, that's because it was it
Starting point is 01:32:25 That is where they That's super cool Oh, man, you see those gunners those like Giants like storm drain like things. Yeah, whatever you all the time And I was like, ah, that one looks like that one looks like in the one time where I'm like that one looks like that's good Oh, shit. That's cool In the news In the news
Starting point is 01:32:52 Let's talk about nintendo direct. Hey, let's do that. There were quite a few Um, why did kimmy retweet it because he's supposed to he does it to troll us Yeah, just because he was just excited for octopath. That's all Uh, lots of little things but nothing truly mind blowing No, and anyone who I guess like was expated waiting for the platinum blowout The problem is that we never know when it's gonna happen. It's gonna happen It's gonna happen when pats like asleep for half a day. Oh, seriously. That's how it happens Yeah, it only happens when it can fool me into being fake
Starting point is 01:33:26 Um, so we first we got to look at mario's nipples Yeah And the fact that he no longer has his tattoo that took over the internet for a while. Yeah Um, yeah, that's sure like that mario odyssey trailer like every time they show a trailer. I'm like, yeah I'm I will buy this and then they show another trailer. You've already got me Look at all the fucking more shit that we even talk that screenshot mode that they showed like when we played uncharted lost legacy I'm no other games has this but like that screenshot mode is like you can Rotate the screenshots. You can make it monochromatic. You can make postcards out of your screenshots like instagram is very popular
Starting point is 01:34:02 With kids very big popular mario I believe plague asked a really poignant question Can hats have sex? Yeah. No. Yeah, how but you're dick in the hat Can hats have sex with other hats? Is it sentience during this process? That's the question that it's having sex. There needs to be some type of receptacle How are you how are new hats created the hats the receptacle? But yeah, the screenshot mode is pretty nuts. They really went out all out for it. Um God bless. I would never you can you can upload it to your phone. So it can be your phone
Starting point is 01:34:35 I would never have thought of like a nintendo game, particularly a mario game to be the game to get a feature like this I also kind of and I you know that people are going to be like creating mario comics And and oh hell yeah for years off of this new 8 bit theater is on its way. It's already exactly I'm a bit bummed because I want I think mario would look better or like more like the mario in my head If he had like a bald spot I feel like I feel like mario should have because he's older. Yeah, I feel like mario should have a bald spot Yeah, there's pauline. He's doing it um
Starting point is 01:35:11 Yeah, man, so there's there's definitely you know more of the game you're gonna buy Being shown off that looks super cool. There's a dog with a hat. There you go uh Other things of note unexpected, but wolfenstein 2 and doom coming to fucking I don't believe wolfenstein 2 will come into the switch I actually don't think that'll come out I think it was a fake announcement. I I I don't know what to do with that The fucking Bethesda account put up a photo almost there's footage things true. You're looking at the footage I was saying to pat uh, I'll play doom whenever I want like I'll play that no problem
Starting point is 01:35:48 But wolfenstein i'm kind of like that game was the first one was super long Really long missions like doom facilitates itself well for like little bursts of gameplay You play doom really? I know do you love murder? I enjoy a good one. Then you you should play doom eventually. Yeah, I will It's it's it's it's not the top of the list, but it's on it. It's a character action game But in first person, it's not a character action game. Yeah. Anyway, there's more pressing matters, but that's a it's there um But yeah, like really shocked about those two things. They must they must have
Starting point is 01:36:22 like Faith or like decent expectations on skyrim because there's no way they would have greenlit these projects if they weren't And that fucking skyrim port I was like nobody cares about that Oh, you're crazy But then yeah, but then like there was like that report I think from digital founder Someone said this is a super good port that runs really well. We're actually really show. Well, it should be it's a 360 Of course it is but like Well, there was you'd still expect them to like do a shitty job
Starting point is 01:36:49 Genuine worries that if it was going to be this the special edition version at all Even though it looked like it people still weren't sure. Yeah, skyrim keeps getting ported because skyrim keeps making money Yeah, like at the end of the day, you know, you know, what's not going to get that treatment fall out for You know why because it's not a very good game Damn Yeah, cool. When you see when you see when you see a skyrim running on a pregnancy test screen You know, don't be surprised It runs doom and skyrim
Starting point is 01:37:20 EKG your child. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they can they can play skyrim with like the images. We got it running Um, I was telling I was telling pat this and pat said something really poignant Before before we get to xeno blade chronicles, which you just started is that like I am pretty sure that they're going to announce that Okami HD for the switch because they announced that so close to this direct for not the switch for Yeah, for not the switch, but hey the director's like tomorrow So it makes sense and it and I was like, well, let's hold on to that announcement for a thing Totally, of course they didn't announce it And then I'm like, it's just so shocking out of all games that should be available
Starting point is 01:37:59 Any everywhere like okami should be it and pat goes Even I think it's ridiculous that they don't have it on there And he's like it ran on the ps3 for fuck's sake and I'm like motherfucker it ran on the ps2 I forgot that's where it started it ran on the weed But what's actually is like it runs on the ps3 and 4k So these ports are literally nothing like they they are trivial And the why aren't like it runs on the ps3 and 4k right switch is stronger than ps3. Yes, it is So what's the deal? What is the deal?
Starting point is 01:38:35 You know what I I feel that there's not a lot of people that like zelda like games On the switch on the switch It would also be um I guess the game that encourages you to use the touchscreen the most Yes, it would because they don't really encourage touchscreen use on the switch right now It's like a little like occasional like tap if you want, but yeah, you got buttons, but even then you don't even need to Xenoblade Chronicles 2 Shoutouts to the giant king of red lions that you get to hang out with
Starting point is 01:39:07 Yeah, it's actually really cool. He's like falcor from um Uh never never any story. Yeah, okay I got I I watched the trailer and I was like, hey, you know what? I think this looks better that like when they first showed it off that first trailer Characters ends are terrible and Liam. Let me know the all these characters are designed by nomura He's on board for the characters and I'm like no He didn't he didn't design these at all and then shortly like just as I said that it showed a bunch of like Super pretty 20 year old guys belts and you want to look at that. I'm like look at your main characters waist dude
Starting point is 01:39:40 Like for sure. I also really like the idea that like instead of like two Big creatures that the original Xenoblade was on every like Town is its own creature. Well now now the signature So well now the signature thing of xenoblade is giant colossal beast statue thing in the distance, right? enormous landscape enormous landscape piece in the this like that's just what the whole the thing is now and you can just Take any lush green environment put a huge thing that's like in the clouds Way off in the distance and know immediately what franchise it is. I hope this is better than chronicles x It has to be chronicles x was like cool
Starting point is 01:40:22 But it had like had these UI problems that I couldn't get around like stuff that yeah Like there's a bunch of like functions that you had to use the touchpad for that were like relatively vital robots though And I like I like how your teammates power your weapons like she's she's got that link that energy link to your guy And she's like powering that weapon. I'm like, so is she the monado? Yes Yeah, you know, yes, she is Because she turns into a sword or some shit. Well, no look at her design. Yeah, she's literally she's the same thing as five Yeah, okay And she also has look that cool wolf guy that cool like saber-tooth white
Starting point is 01:41:01 Tiger cat like white blaze from ronin warriors isn't your party. That's awesome. Yeah And this is also a thing that's like I don't know like I don't because I'm the old xeno gears fan and not xeno saga And a little bit of zealoblade, but like she has a bunch of like highly specific imagery and symbols on her on her body like she has that um, it's called the zohar. It's like the the the the Glowing yellow onk that has the two little dots at the side right on her chest with a glowing green like that means she's the thing okay, um If every town is a giant battle beast then you can decide
Starting point is 01:41:37 Which town's better not through sports. Yeah with just how cool your mom But through battle beasts so cool how like uh your town and look at these fucking things those things look awesome The blade awaken blade manage blades blade awaken Just blade weapon people turn into blades. It's cool stuff Cool stuff zeno blade chronicles too and they announced it's coming out in december, which is cool octopath is you know Still a ways away, but uh I still actually haven't seen this because you were like thank god. I just noticed so it looks like this says Octopath traveler working title. I told you it's like yeah, thank god
Starting point is 01:42:16 It uh this octopath is the guys that made um Bravely default. Bravely default exactly making the coolest looking rpgfc in years with the worst names Yeah It's like it's their thing Yeah, and they don't this reminds me of so like in in in concept reminds me of uh Sucker frontier the first one where that was kind of the the same gimmick Where that there were all these main characters that you could pick Okay, that you would go along the story with
Starting point is 01:42:46 Um, and and apparently it carries over some of the Bravely default Systems as well Yeah, I just hope it doesn't like the battles aren't as slow as they are No, no, they're thus desuscitating a ridiculous fast forward feature. No, they're they're they they feel more like Like classic Final Fantasy Uh, yeah, so you can check out the demo for that Sniper clips plus dude game of the year cut it out together That that that even though that's a tiny game that was a shocker
Starting point is 01:43:18 That's so smart because these guys not even a year out is like we got a fucking move on this Yeah, yeah, yeah, this will probably do really well. Sniper clips one is so fun is incredibly fun and does not get enough play Um, yeah, man, I'm just if there a thing is just like yeah, we got more levels. It's like cool Good, that's all I need and that says like four player. No, yeah four player mode. So that's pretty dope Um, make sure to show me young youthful edgy teens having fun. We are those people. Yeah, how else would I know? I'm like that guy. He reminds me of me. That's how I should have fun Thanks for showing me. I don't think I've ever seen an ad that adequately it shows off how I enjoy video games Like dead-faced staring
Starting point is 01:44:07 Yep This Kirby game is the first thing I saw on the direct bar. I'm like, I'm disappointed by this Why because it was and it was rumored that when this was going to be revealed It's going to be a straight up fighting game and not like just in a little arena Well, but they already did make um the the fighting game in the last game. No, that's like this What no, this is really similar to the thing that they released the but they're but the no no the in the last game There was uh, like a one of the extra game modes was a fighting game. So I mean it wasn't like 2d Yeah was yeah
Starting point is 01:44:47 What is the thing that they released it as its own little sub game and you download and that and Kirby I think it was called Kirby's fighters or Kirby But wasn't it done this exact same perspective like a little overhead arena thing? I don't know No, it was it was definitely to 2d and I and I definitely uh, yeah It wasn't it wasn't it wasn't like this. Anyway, like Please because I also confused this with the other Kirby game that got announced. Yeah, this is different There's too many Kirby games. There's different. There are you have to admit. There's too many You have to admit
Starting point is 01:45:24 There's a lot. Okay. That's all I want. That's all you're gonna get. That's that's fine. Yeah Kirby fighters z um the um Mario party top 100. Yeah, that's a cool one. That's a cool idea Remake of like but what's weird and on this footage it doesn't show a board It just shows mini games. That's weird. Yeah, so no one actually knows. Well, I guess yeah, and I guess it's just to kind of like Streamline it right
Starting point is 01:45:57 But how do you like is there does it keep track of your? I want you I wonder if it just plays out like Wario where where you just kind of go from one mini game to another Maybe you know and the winner at the end has the most time killer if you're waiting at a packs line Yeah, I noticed a severe lack of bumper balls and you don't know Yeah, I don't know isn't there a list? I don't know but I I mean I I'm like if they don't have bumper balls Like they fucked up already. Well, you should have voted in the in the vote that they didn't have They said like we took the top 100 as voted by like when was this vote by Miyamoto and some guy Let me analyze this little clip where they show you they zoom out
Starting point is 01:46:41 You didn't fucking look at every that's not a hundred squares. No, but I know but it's not in these squares So I'm not so it's not there. I'm not hopeful Also, no hot jump. No, so I guess not you guys are you're fucking up You're fucking out of there being too many Kirby games There was another one listed. Yeah, that one was announced at E3 But didn't have a name back then so it's Kirby star allies, which is see that's fine You know, but those other little mini ones. It's like no back those off because it's like a four player console version You know at the end of the day you pick and choose what you're interested in
Starting point is 01:47:20 I I I Dude, if those were there were this many final fight games, I'd still complain. Oh, yeah. No I know I know that I'm just winning and I'm just enjoying it I have a question. Do you play every Kirby game? Uh, almost. Yeah, that's what I thought Almost yeah, because you're all about planet robobot marshmallows. It just is it's just innocent fun There's nothing else to it. I just love the copyability. Can I just and I love An animated Kirby game, please. I don't even need that. I don't need that or what that cannibalizes people to eat there I'm gonna make an elf. I will I had a called Kirby
Starting point is 01:48:00 I just love seeing the new versions of the familiar powers and like, you know For me 64 where you combine two was super dope. I wish we could go back to that But if not, that's cool Dude, you gotta go that actual vote thing. You see that actual vote thing Vote for your top Kirby power-ups of all time and then we're gonna. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I did Kirby or Mega Man Kirby Your make original Mega Man, right? I just meant in general Kirby now
Starting point is 01:48:27 You'd say I knew it wouldn't matter. Why would you ask for clarification? But if you say like in this native video games now Would you rather be a Mega Man fan or Kirby fan? Well, like I want to keep playing games So because it's like if you said like Mega Man X it'd be like, oh, I'd have to stop and think right, but then it's like Okay, but hold on though. The average Is now getting lower Because let's face it. There are there are I think there's more there's more bad Mega Man games that I would not like to play than Kirby games
Starting point is 01:48:56 But there are more good mega good Kirby games than bad ones I can think of like maybe two Kirby games or I'm like, eh, you know so Yeah, and the other thing too is that like Mega Man as a basic, you know Shoot the boss get their power is an interesting thing But it's not like I like the way Kirby does it better because one And when Kirby it's not like you're switching through the powers It's like you're forced to have it
Starting point is 01:49:17 Yeah, and you're stuck with it and you use it until you're bored of it You know and then the second thing is obviously there's way more than eight Yeah, you know and you get cool one-off things like the the fucking beetle Like suplex is like one of is like I think suplex is my favorite like fighter is dope and Sora's cool. You like suplex. I like suplex. Really? Yeah Yeah, I know shocking didn't see that one coming. Nope. That's a new one now Hammer is really good too. If I had a Kirby game had german suplex That would be mine. Sure. Enjoy my german suplex
Starting point is 01:49:49 But he does german suplexes He does he does pilot drivers. He does all of them. He has a move list. Shut up. You grab the guy In Kirby superstar You grab the guy and then you choose what type of suplex you want to do don't challenge him on this You know, he's gonna actually know especially not what Kirby super stuff Like holy shit Kirby superstar in and of itself like beats like a couple of mega man's I don't I'm not gonna say I'm not gonna say which one at least at least one legacy collection gets thwarted
Starting point is 01:50:20 The legacy collection too gets thwarted by Kirby super star deluxe. I won't fight me on that That legacy collection has one good game in it and it's nine And then you know and then for every once in a while you get some bullshit like fucking kill everything crash Kirby Or horn might Kirby. Yeah, or like an epic yarn star Or like an epic yarn or the other the one after that you get the big big huge power up that lets you kill everything I remember Kirby got those massive swords that would destroy the levels and shit and then yeah Yo in 64 you take sword you take electricity you get Darth Maul Fuck you. He's got a fucking two-sided lightsaber. That's true. That's true, right?
Starting point is 01:50:58 Not to mention the time that he did a giga drill breaker. So I remember that Um In less exciting news Thank Kirby Uh capcom has confirmed the deal that no games are coming with the dlc for marvel. Let's get the excited Oh, look max is on the screen and he looks super excited. Yeah That's the face That's so oh boy. Well, that's the face. So, uh,
Starting point is 01:51:30 Oh look and it's on a video called roster problems. So right now we have confirmation that uh monster hunter winner soldier black widow and venom are coming Odd that that's one capcom and three marvels as opposed to two and two But so it is no the character and we're hoping that gill would be a part of that, but it seems like he's not So where'd that come from again? Because you mentioned that and I was like where'd that come from this statement? No, the the thing about the gill thing was a rumor. Oh, okay. The gill thing was a rumor Honestly, while as cool as that would be you already have two main villains in the game in ultron and sigma So it feels kind of weird to have a third a third major villain there. Jetta I don't consider him a major. Yeah, like x-men street fighter had bison, you know, they'll do it, but
Starting point is 01:52:19 Um, anyway, no, I I and then they had some screenshots of black panther and like, oh, yeah, it's black panther You know, it is what it is but uh Still no, I mean monster hunter. I know you're you're happy to see that I'm not happy to see it as dlc Because it means there's no reason for me to pick the game up until the disc until the dlc comes out Yeah, I mean, I kind of means I'm not gonna pick the game up because I'm not gonna pay 66 dollars to fucking play dlc character Wait, why does that say black widow? It says black widow widow winner soldier and black panther
Starting point is 01:52:52 Oh, so it's like I thought it was a mistake. I thought they were trying to write black panther But it's she's in the game too black widow isn't okay. That's new to me. I didn't know that is brand new to this announcement That's cool. Yeah, that hasn't been announced prior So it's gonna be gun and just jills moveset punch kick girl What are you what's really gonna be creative about her? I don't know. I mean black way. It's nice, you know, avenger representation Yeah, you got the movies out. They're cool. I mean, what do you have like low key? What are you? Yes, because like what is your move set for black widow? I'd rather in the like let's say if you want to replace it with a woman. I'd rather have
Starting point is 01:53:30 Hell, okay, sir. Sorry. And here's the part who is who is um dormammu. No, no, um, the Cape Lenshet and Thor Ragnarok. She's playing how she's playing hell. Hello. Yeah. Hello. Hell. Yeah, hell I'd love her to be in the fucking game So that would be a really good one too because again, you can just envision a move list. That's unique, right? Here's what I want you to do. Take I'll do whatever you want. Take black widow, right? Imagine her as a fighting game character, right done. You got all the moves Got it. Is there anything she can do that winter soldier can't The only thing I can think of that I've seen her use in the movies and well, hold on
Starting point is 01:54:05 The only thing I can think of like any of the movies have shown that winter soldier Maybe can't do but doesn't do is that she uses the little wire electric wire the wire thing That's how they're gonna differentiate her for a throw. Yeah, she's got the wrist The other than that she kicks punches and shoots guns like winter soldier does yeah, and he's got the arm But that being said I would love to play I want to see him play as winter soldier because winter soldier is the fucking coolest He is cool But what I'm panther as well But you're going to see a bunch of normal soldier people doing normal soldier things because it's easy
Starting point is 01:54:38 I'm not sure if it's hold this to you. Yeah, sexy grabs is what we're gonna get sexy leg grabs and command I hope with winter soldier. We will get that I think I told pathos I'm gonna tell me if I didn't tell you but like do you remember that story about when capcom was treating Chasing characters from marvel superheroes the original Yeah, and going through the marvel bible and they saw schumagoroth and went who the fuck is this Because he's the only one that wasn't a cape. Yeah, because right before that They're going through like cape spandex cape spandex blah blah blah
Starting point is 01:55:09 Holy shit tentacle monster zone 10 Yeah, now that was a different time when capcom got to choose who they wanted and marvel because marvel was like in almost bank Right, they're like do whatever you want, right? But now marvel has the upper hand and they get to decide how the mc is so what's their what's their excuse for having their Own side of the roster also be boring. Uh, they are pushing they're pushing movies No capcom. Oh capcom. Yeah. Oh, no, no excuse Where's where's the sorrow? Uh, you know, I have it. Wait, wait, wait. There is an excuse. We've been over this It's not the bullshit thing. Is it it's cheap
Starting point is 01:55:44 It's cheap save money Babe, why did you make jetta? Why is that one a weird pick a bit like that's the only one You know it bumps me out the only reason you gotta give him a couple The only reason monster hunter is in this game is because monster hunter world is something they want to push in the west It's literally the only reason Again, it's not because monster hunter final roster will probably be Full of more interesting picks, but if you say final roster, do you mean like in four years after all dlc? Well, yeah
Starting point is 01:56:16 Yeah That's all I can bet I'm that's I'm looking for a silver lining and that's where it is When all the dlc comes out a couple years when the game is dead as fuck not a couple years in a couple months when all the dlc Yeah Yeah, no, we'll whatever like it's like it's gonna it's gonna be on the tournament circuit It's gonna stay okay. Well, no wait, you know regardless But uh dbz fighters. What's that come out six months from February February. Okay. It hasn't till February. It hasn't until live
Starting point is 01:56:52 It literally yes, that is correct Here's a little difference between injustice and how those games are got the rosters picking this Is an injustice has a bunch of fucking weirdos Most people have never heard of and a bunch of weirdos that are not pushed in movies And probably will never be pushed in movies in injustice one. They're really they went hard on everything classic possible It's everybody with thing and injustice too like they seem to have very explicitly gone for more obscure characters like firestorm is not getting into because injustice is now established Marvel is a stat is as established as it gets
Starting point is 01:57:33 Right and so instead of going for weird picks and making a much more interesting game They doubled down on old picks money But also gotta put the models that we already made and also now that we have this boring roster the lack of any x-man at all is Very bad first thing a dlc not a single man of x or woman It's it's so it's so weird because Like we're talking about boring picks and it's like x-men would have been a safe pick too It would have been a you know, like we've seen them we've done it
Starting point is 01:58:09 That makes no sense But it's just so beloved that you can't ignore in the marvel mobile fighting game or marvel champions or whatever Yeah, they just added all age of apocalypse variants of the x-men in there super dope Why why does that get a pass? Why does marvel put x-men into that? Yeah What what why can't it show up here? Like what is the actual issue? That's where it makes no sense to me. Honestly. Here's the question pushing x-men and why don't we just get a super duper marvel 3 That adds the new characters that this is adding Into a better game. Why don't we get capcom versus capcom?
Starting point is 01:58:45 Yeah, that's the game we want. That's the game we all just want But as much as I would like to play as as as the marvel superheroes and the dc superheroes and whatnot But no, I I just Give me 64 fucking Capcom characters. Yeah, and you know, well, like I said, um, it'll probably you know, they'll be interesting picks coming But if they don't get like Rashid or someone in there like that then venom is the most It's a complete character ever and he's probably gonna be completely different. He's probably gonna be shit He's probably gonna be completely different. Yes that too bad or something. I don't know
Starting point is 01:59:18 But I don't even know what venom they would pick. There's a million Well, what I last Thompson venom because I mean, it's just oh god That's horribly said that because that's a guy that shoots guns and punches. Yeah. Yeah If it's just agent venom. Yeah, that'd be dude. That'd be the word. I'm expecting just normal. He's cool a bit I mean, I here's the thing. I would accept like one that plays exactly like like 2d venom I would I would take that right that would be fine with me But I expect they're gonna change it up and make it a bit more like, you know Like Thanos is like a completely different character now, right? And they had out too well
Starting point is 01:59:54 He hasn't been around since like a marvel superheroes. Yeah, marvel too. He's a marvel too. Yeah Everyone was in marvel too. Yeah, everyone ever every sprite made it into marvel. What do you got? We got marvel too. That's what we got But here's the thing even the marvel roster if you stick to the cinematic universe could be way more interesting than it is in this game Like that's the thing is like even with characters. You're pushing. I could have picked like a roster a thousand times better Yep Anyway, but we're just dumb
Starting point is 02:00:28 I don't know At the very least he and Everyone fucking shouts. Yeah. Yeah, exactly Uh, well, I mean venom No, I think venom he gets like a yeah So, uh What's interesting to me is
Starting point is 02:00:50 Jeff Kaplan came out and space basically explained that The fact the amount of bad behavior and toxic Player punishing that overwatch has to do we have to deal with this so much it's slowing down development Down fucking progress on game Like like new features. Hey because you guys are all ass Welcome welcome to the problem the dota and league of legends faced But here I exactly but here this is I think this I feel like this might be the first time anyone's trying to combat it
Starting point is 02:01:24 As hard as possible. No, no, no, no Those two games took enormous amounts of development resources to justify that. Yeah, because they looked at it and they said, okay What's the number one thing slowing the growth of our games? The fact that they are the worst community ever. That's a pretty good point. Uh, The like tutorials Got created mentor systems fucking I remember they were even they were even experimenting with like default settings Hey, did you know that a party chat is off by default toxicity goes down eight percent?
Starting point is 02:02:00 You know all sorts of crazy shit and now blizzard now overwatch is popular enough to be in there as well Yeah, and and it's just like yeah, no you get big enough and you have broad enough audience guess what it's a cesspool It's the worst but the but I guess like riot is just huge enough to have the ability to redevelop To uh, uh, devote resources to that and not slow down new shit And overwatch is smaller than blizzard. Well, the I don't know what about the team sizes Oh, maybe the team. Yeah, the answer is to use more resources I guess but right now they're straight up just like we are spending so much on this that we can't make new shit And I and like this is a public message telling people
Starting point is 02:02:41 Please stop being assholes. No, you can't know so that we can make it make more stuff for you It doesn't work like and it never will work. It can't work I mean people enjoy the game by being assholes like hey, woolly. What was it when we did the player unknown battlegrounds video What was the first fucking thing we did? Yeah, yeah, you know why because that shit's never gonna get any better when I Stream friday the 13th guess what the first thing I do is turn off go buddy and no, you know like The special team games games have competitive
Starting point is 02:03:16 Like like, you know codified competitive ranked systems are always gonna be way worse You think is is that I feel like there is a I feel like there's absolutely a group of people That enjoy the game more Because of that now I'll be really honest back when I played years of war one You fucking gross piece of shit. I may have had fun Uh, no gears of war one and halo three were you on the mic? I may have made Some jokes at some children's expense who shouldn't have been playing an ma 17 rated game. Okay. Well, I that's another thing entirely
Starting point is 02:04:01 You know what you know, you know, you know that kid that's like Fuck you and in your game. You know, it's great making that kid cry. Yeah But you shouldn't do that that's a bad thing to do don't be toxic I love the line a tremendous amount of time and resources gone to punishing people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah It's a straight so real. That's what they said No, um, you know the whatchamacallit that child was given permission by their adult Supervisor to play this mature game. So surely what's the worst one you've ever heard? It's always the baby in the background, right? That's the worst one shut up that damn baby
Starting point is 02:04:41 I think the yeah, the baby in the back or the xbox live message. You only you only want because my baby was crying Am I in or whatever? Like, yeah, you you only won because my girl was sucking my dick. Yeah, right Shit was so cash. She was so cash Anyway, anyway, I I mean like Jeff only won because my girl Yeah, like Kaplan, you know this message in an attempt to like just curb it with like, I guess dot like telling people Please don't do it. It's it's stupid. It's an interesting experiment I god bless, you know, it's a naive approach. It really is I if anything I feel like people would double down because if you're already doing it will show him
Starting point is 02:05:36 Yeah, because it doesn't have to it doesn't it doesn't necessarily have to convince more people You just have to take the same amount of people and make them do it more So what's interesting to me is like blizzards experience with this, right? They've had what they've had a large amount of success With Diablo Start the real-time strategy games that they've done and an mmo, right? So an mmo this behavior is self-correcting Right the really really toxic fucks get gm'd out To stop being a problem and then the the game world becomes generally shitty But it kind because your character has a level of permanency, right?
Starting point is 02:06:13 And then rts games you're by yourself Yeah, most of the 90% of the time you get by yourself. So what do you do yell at your opponent at home? But this is strictly a team but these are team games Like imobas and and overwatch our team games communication is 100% necessary You know, what's way worse than you getting killed by a better opponent your teammate losing your mastery Yes, exactly. That's a hundred times worse The fucking teleporter pointed at the cliff side Just to give another example of it and uh, I know it was referenced at min friday the 13th
Starting point is 02:06:45 Someone has leveled so much. They've gotten everything in the game. Uh-huh. They don't care anymore, right? Don't care So, uh, they disabled team killing in the game because then people that have over level just want to fuck with matches That's correct. So they'll try to kill you. So when they did that, what's the next logical step blocking? They'll take mission critical items and just never give it up Hey, well, do you remember when we played those uh, resident evil online games the uh, the the the what the fuck are they called? Upbreak, yeah That's how people would troll in those games because there's no voice chat of any kind and no in-game like typing or communication So people would rush to get the key or some shit that was vital and just fucking run away from other people and refuse to use it
Starting point is 02:07:25 And run out the fucking clock. Yeah, I mean at realistically at the very least, you know at the end they pretty much say here that uh Like there's not going to be a moment where we have a magic patch and overwatch that makes bad behavior go away Well, no, you know, like they know that it's an uphill battle forever And it's and it's just going to be a thing they have to wean people off of And eventually start making the game product content again. They also have a A toxic problem in Heroes of the storm because it's a MOBA Like in particular like people get reported thousands and thousands of times and never get banned
Starting point is 02:07:59 Yeah, well here people used to talk about how like the report system doesn't work And well one thing they did was they rolled it out for console because it didn't exist on console Which is crazy But they rolled it out and they also said like, you know people complain that the the uh report system doesn't work But they gave out a stat here that basically straight up says, uh, they've taken disciplinary action on over 48 480 thousand accounts And 340 thousand of those were a direct result of reporting and I know what you're thinking That's half a million people
Starting point is 02:08:30 And you know what I said to that You need to like quadruple that Like quintuple that Well, particularly in regions in which the way that you buy overwatch is not as a 60 dollar product But as a rented time slot Right like that those people they're gonna be tough to ban Hey, what would you say if like you booted the game up? Yeah, and then there was just a prompt that went like enable super cheat mode now. Yeah wind mode
Starting point is 02:08:57 Enable it. Yeah permanently on your account now and there's a yes and a no button. That's right. And if you click yes, you're permaband I bet that would get an a star What would you think about that system? I think that would get like a million people Yeah, I think so too I was just curious and and it's the first thing that happens after you buy and boot the game Yeah, yeah, right away enable mega cheat mode and then it goes. Thanks for your money idiot And it's in brackets only you will know that you have mega cheat mode on And then you click yeah, and then you're fucking locked. That's good. Fuck you. I like that
Starting point is 02:09:41 This is this has been an ongoing problem. I remember microsoft was doing a fucking voice analysis research Uh a while back because microsoft's ideal future is they can the the console you're playing on Will be able to detect if you're being a massive asshole By analyzing your speech and go hey Shove it or usually just mute you in the moment But that shit's far away and also requires the console to intelligently listen to you at all times Which i'm not sure a lot of people would be down for You know like 360 had a whole reporting system on its xbox live thing as well
Starting point is 02:10:18 But it required you leaving the game and going into their menus. You never did it It's no one's gonna do that but it was fine at the time like it's all you had and so You know what I think nowadays would be you know, I think is the worst part So whenever you report somebody in a game like this you do it in mmo. You do it in uh, uh, Shooter you do it in a mobo you always get a you always get the same message and it goes We're gonna take care of this you will not be getting an update on what has happened you know, it'd be really useful That if that person got banned or disciplined or something
Starting point is 02:10:50 You would get like a check mark as a real on that bug on that report or harassment report or whatever So that at least the community would feel oh, I feel vindicated that guy actually got in trouble something Yeah, or even like a gm has read this You know or like something right because what the feeling from the player base is that you send it out you put You literally mail a letter to somebody and then and they say don't worry. We'll take care of it on their website and you Aren't you because you never get to appreciate the actual difference because there's a billion shitty people Yeah, I mean
Starting point is 02:11:32 You gotta wonder like because look at the whole uh type typing bm into the chat Just filters to oh, it's past my bedtime and my mommy's calling or like all those little like I'll see that trivializing things or whatever and it's like you people fucking like within seconds or like yeah, I'm gonna own that Yeah, that's done. I'm a period. I'm spamming it now. You know what mommy bedtime now Um Happy time. I mean while well, they do that Uh, they're luck with that by the way. I'm very interested in seeing technological and social solutions to this kind of stuff It's such an interesting problem
Starting point is 02:12:09 I think the solution you you put forward is the only way To get that million accounts at least. Yeah, well, there's two solutions one everyone shut the fuck up Yeah, disable all chat. By the way, that was ff 14 solution to their pvp toxicity problem They completely disabled all forms of communication. That's interesting and the the pvp community went crazy because not you can only send out Pre-recorded like chat messages now such as go to the left or go to the right and people are like How the fuck am I supposed to tell a healer somebody to fucking target the healer in the back with all the coins?
Starting point is 02:12:45 Or some shit and they went oh, well, we don't want it to be toxic So yeah, that was their solution. This is like, oh, okay. We can't fix it. Fuck it complete Disable of all communication means jump on discord Yeah, but at least you get to choose who you're adding to your discord. Yeah, so that already kind of solves it But that's the problem with having people play your game There's just a naturally amount of percentage of shitty people
Starting point is 02:13:13 That are in a population when people play your game. I Just got the perfect solution of this problem. I know how you can cut out 100 Percent toxicity from your online multiplayer shooter. Well now i'm interested. Okay, you ready guys ready? I have an idea. You shut it down. Okay. Well And that's that. I'm so glad I felt what you were throwing at me then I was my my leading was going to be you know, what's better than having People play your game toxicity
Starting point is 02:13:46 When you have no one play your game the sounds of fucking dust and ghosts. I'm not sure if it's in this article Dust and ghosts love it I'm not sure if it's in this article But you didn't catch the wind that this was being reported on now But the game actually died like four days ago And no one noticed but also the servers are still up. So you can't still play it What game are we talking about gang? battle
Starting point is 02:14:17 lawbreakers Battle but lawbreakers is two weeks dawn of born Battle born is dead Borderlands it lasted 15 months Borderlands Professor black. What do you love every time you kill a zeta warp? The dying sound effect is the zeta warp going borderland Oh, that's all that's all it's a while ago. Oh shit. Borderlands
Starting point is 02:14:51 Anyway, so here's what's up Gearbox is not getting a gearbox is not updating battle born anymore. No after this autumn. That's it all heads on deck for the new borderlands It's been a long ride, you know, they It hasn't been they it's been it's been a couple literally been a short ride. It's been a couple months they've uh state they fought off the free to play for a while and uh a year and a half later they you know, they gave in and then uh Says the servers will be up and active for the foreseeable. Yeah, you can still log in and play
Starting point is 02:15:24 Which means by a born remain playable, but for how long battle born is here to stay Varnell stress So here's so it's not dead because they're shutting the servers down. It's just dead that you they're not making it We're not doing anything else. The developers are dropping it as well as everyone that was playing it It's officially being so, you know, what's really sunset. Yeah. Oh, yeah What's really interesting to me about battle born is the same thing that's interesting to me about evolve where when people saw the game immediately They went how long until it goes free to play
Starting point is 02:15:55 Right because there was no faith in this game, right? Yeah, and then of course both of those games eventually did go free to play But it was too fucking late because they were known to be Disasters and nothing that could have been done at that point could have saved them Yeah, and all I can think of is like this is the first footage of you might have actually had like a really a lot better shot had you gone free to play from the start Instead of retrofitting it much later down the road. That's that's not what their design wanted, but yeah, that's that's true Um, you would have had you would have had people that because first of all again like talking to uh
Starting point is 02:16:37 People that's played it like I got the impression that it's like it It feels different and from over once in the sense that you're playing like half an hour games at times Because it's like mobile like but um, you would have definitely gotten a bunch of people that were like Oh man, I feel like playing overwatch, but I don't have the money for it And then they'll be like fuck it. I'll go try this free thing. Yeah paladins Yeah Yeah, or battle, right? Oh my god lunches are being eaten God
Starting point is 02:17:09 Like you're you're there is no room left at this table. You're completely right But the answer to that question is paladins. Oh, Jesus. There's and that's the same problem. There's nowhere to sit That's the same problem. Lawbreakers ran into i'm holding my tray with my food on it and there's nowhere to sit Where do I sit? Nowhere So I just throw my lunch in the garbage so probably the weirdest thing about all this shit is if you look at randy pitchford's twitter One, he's a crazy person but two When he talks about what the team is working on it's like, yeah
Starting point is 02:17:41 9% of the studio has been moved on to the thing that you all Just obviously want us to be working on That thing that you want and he doesn't actually say borderlands. He doesn't say it but like Colonial marines too as somebody highly anticipated but unannounced as as recent as I recently played through borderlands too with a bunch of friends Yeah, those games are fantastic and they're the best things gearbox ever made Yeah, and everything they made other than that was either a moderate okay game or like a baffling giant failure
Starting point is 02:18:16 So yeah, how about you go back to making borderlands games? Yeah, but even then they made so many borderlands spinoffs and weird things they made three No, there's that other one that okay Remember the one the pre-sequel. Yeah, that's that game's bad. That's the third borderlands game I'm thinking of it's technically. Yeah, it's like if you know what the handsome jack pack Which is just the two and two in pre-signal. No, it's two and pre-sequel not one Don't forget about the tell tale. Yeah, which is apparently quite good. It is Mully played it. Yeah
Starting point is 02:18:50 Uh, yeah, so So don't pour 40 out for this It's so you know what's really interesting to me a game like this. Good night sweet prince You have to give it at least a year right because if you drop it immediately people don't have faith for your next game Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so but gearbox is like an established company with a lot of games ordered and spelt Whatever the fuck boss key productions boss key By cliffy b. They don't So how long are they gonna keep the lawbreakers?
Starting point is 02:19:22 You you saw you saw that that recent uh, they actually Talked to cliffy b like a few days ago. Yeah, I did. I saw he's like, yeah, it's actually pretty humbling So we got it So he's like we're going to keep making content and try to improve it. Yeah, we got to get that player base So you need you need 12 months minimum. Yep 12 months minimum You're not gonna year you're not gonna turn around not getting away with anything below that Yeah, and if you or you got to do the final fantasy 14 thing of Fuck it all
Starting point is 02:19:48 Yeah, close it all down and start new all those characters died. Here's some new ones Yeah, everybody who bought this one. Yeah, all 12 of you you get the free copy of the next one, but uh It's like the street fighter thing of that tournament didn't count. Yeah, that was this is the real one. That was just wandering You thought it was fights. Yeah, I know like lawbreakers too. It's just the the wanderlust Charlie didn't die last time. He died this time Uh, it's just wandering Lawbreakers too. Just wondering. I'm really glad that lawbreakers came out and then battle born died So that we always have like a easy one in the pocket
Starting point is 02:20:29 There's always an easy game to go for as a punching bag for low player numbers as a punch line. Yeah That's good gotta punch that low hanging fruit Hey player on no battlegrounds finally hit 1.3 million people concurrently. It's the most popular game ever. What do you think about that randy? Cliffy Oh randy doesn't want to answer these conferences anymore. Let's go talk to cliffy He disappeared in a puff of of of smoke that steals your money Yeah, well, we all know that it's about the iconic pub g character designs. That's clearly what people are in That's so crazy, um
Starting point is 02:21:07 That like it's like, oh, it's all about the hero shooter. Everyone wants hero shooters the blandest looking game I've never because it's good I couldn't even make myself dude In the video not allowed. I could I tried like you didn't see me try and make myself But there's no like like you can't make a head with a beard or any hair It's just assholes and like it's like five guys and i'm just like our girls and i'm just like, you know I don't need fucking def jam fight for new york. I don't need nba 2k 16 You do
Starting point is 02:21:41 I just need like not a fro. Is that okay? No, how's that gonna feel for guys like randy and cliffy and everybody on their team that they made all these painstaking love characters Designs and this big game system and then the game that's basically a daisy mod is like the most popular the word is anguish I Because because because you know why because the battle born and lawbreakers are like, let's just do the same thing Everyone else is doing
Starting point is 02:22:12 And it was like different bit slightly different whereas like pub g is just kind of like It day like daisy was weird in that it was obscure, but really well known Yeah, it wasn't mainstream. So this just kind of blew up out of nowhere Honestly, the the pub g's rise reminds me a lot of one I've talked to people about this new game. They were playing called counter strike It reminds it reminds me a lot of that feeling because counter strike is again, you're like nobody's Counter strike looks like terrorists. Yeah, fucking whatever not terrorists. Yeah You you die and that's it
Starting point is 02:22:50 I remember that being the most mind-blowing shit ever Like what why would I play a game in which I only get to play for like a minute and then I have to wait out the whole round Yeah, yeah, yeah What Yeah Play day to feet you respawn in that game What should we call it uh speaking of doing the same thing But different but different
Starting point is 02:23:17 We got ign first footage Of 10 minutes of code vein I haven't seen this that is So this is not a dark souls ripoff. What says who this is a neo ripoff Okay, because there are five weapon types Uh, but okay, but well, there's a boss fight that you know, they just animate their way through because it's anime souls that's correct and like
Starting point is 02:23:42 It every single thing about the movement the role Yeah, the way the boss occasionally will jump back It is not even it is not even hiding it or pretending. No Like like if there wasn't a truck in the background of this video You might just go. Oh someone modded someone modded The HUD looks really different. Yeah, you're like, oh, yeah, someone a pc mod, right? They put in their own anime character and they made a different HUD and they That was him using his ass and they moved the the boss life bar to the top
Starting point is 02:24:13 But yeah, so like straight up We had and we now have lords of the fallen. We have the surge. We have neo We are gonna have code vein Like souls is a genre and it's not a genre in like That jump away, dude. Like shooter is a genre It's a genre like street fighter 2 was a genre for a while specifically street fighter 2. Yes. Yeah Like Everyone is
Starting point is 02:24:44 Is is experimenting with the tertiary aspects Like all the little details, but they are super not deviating from the core They're like no People like this I like this right like a lot of people have said to me that it actually looks like a lot like god eater slash Souls and I'd have to agree like the the style and all that stuff And like the specific like the the minor changes that they do make Are god eater ish. Yeah, but like yeah, no as far as you get away
Starting point is 02:25:19 There you're you like that we're making a really imagine a developer interview came out It's like we're making a really different game from the souls games And as we ran as far away from them as we could you look and they're like 10 feet away Like they're you're you're right that you're standing you're looking around the horizon and you're peeking back For everyone every once in a while to remember what it was like being here It's like I remember when I had an argument with somebody like years and years years ago where they were like Darksiders one is nothing like zelda I was like, are you in insane?
Starting point is 02:25:50 It is literally an okra, you know time clone like it is just straight up 100% I think dark. I think darksiders 2 is a bit more result of really Well, this is the world's Yeah, I connected that's all see the thing is though I feel that like we got because you mentioned those games, right? And you didn't mention any of the 2d ones of which there were Fucking dozens because that's its own thing. Yeah, even if they share all the mechanics Yeah, it is still very much its own thing because of the change in perspective
Starting point is 02:26:18 Yeah, and you know, but like so many games came out that like started using Demon souls and dark souls mechanic sanctuary is the the most it's the most obvious one for sure, you know But um, so we've seen like variations and deviations from this basic idea a little bit But I feel like this code vein footage of this boss fight is just the most like no no It's everything you know and nothing that you don't know Except for the anime hair Yeah, you know like it feels the most like we didn't even try to go like any different with in in order of change From the core
Starting point is 02:26:55 Souls series like the originators. I guess you would call it. Yeah, the most different is neo Yeah, the second most different is bloodborn And then the surge and then and then the surge and then maybe goad vein Oh Yeah, I hope it's good. I don't know. Yeah, it looks good. I hope I can design a cool anime You know one day you will one day Not today though, but you get big sorts in this Yeah, big hammers big everything. Yeah
Starting point is 02:27:32 Um, you know what I really want. I hope they re resurrect project hammer, but it's a souls like This switch souls switch souls. Yeah Project hammer one day matt, don't you one day someone will give me a price Don't say that someone will do something when you dodge in this game You have big red sex energy on you to show you to show you when your invincibility frames are Sometimes matt says dumb things not realizing that but like the power the power and responsibility that comes So he's talking about like oh, why is fred durst dodging me and some dudes like you want me to make a call Dude, it got super close
Starting point is 02:28:14 And matt uncomped twitter's like, uh Not man. Yeah, yeah Maybe dude, it got super close to becoming a reality. Oh, jeez, dude. Like you gotta be careful I would ask them about is a vangelion collection. Do you know what code veins color and art? Reminds me of sort out online prototype Yeah, it's all black and red. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, man. Black and red. That's true and the blood But it goes with the vampire theme anyways
Starting point is 02:28:43 I said every character was a mirror from killer angst and she's just black and red vampire. Yeah, you got a point All right, so nintendo might not be giving you project hammer fuckers But they're giving me well not really because this is japan only and it's the coolest announcement of Oh, I know which one you you're talking about the coolest announcement for the nintendo direct was fucking japan only Right now. Yeah, at least you sons of bitches The name of the game what what is the name of the game? Wally is the dead heat breakers
Starting point is 02:29:17 And the game Is dylan's rolling western 2 So here's the thing dylan's rolling ruster and was man. I like this world. I like these characters Man, I don't have fun playing this game because it's a weird tower defense base It was a tower defense and I I never got into that But this just seems like a fucking action game. It sure does with racing segments Uh Yeah, I think dylan's fucking awesome
Starting point is 02:29:42 The tower defense was a way of like really minimizing assets, you know to make it like all about your little small map But now that you've got a me furry maker In the game, they've got a second reason for everybody to get on board Instantly plague of gripes perks up. Fuck that sonic forces. Oh his ears perk up His ears and sonic forces. You've got to do the the creation yourself here This is made by platinum. They take your near me and they read your fursona right out of it. Yeah See, it's not even called dylan. Whatever. It's just called. Yeah the dead heat breakers When me and Liam saw that Liam's like, oh, I know woolly
Starting point is 02:30:22 No, dylan is one of my favorite new nintendo characters and it kills me that he doesn't get more play Well, maybe he'll get a real game this game is need to be successful for it to happen. No, I mean this Yeah, yeah Yeah, I but I just like it'd be nice to see it off of the 3ds onto You know, maybe he'll get an actual real game because this is a fucking 3ds japan exclusive so far What you know, what am I supposed to do with that? You're supposed to import your bullshit and And play I want to support dylan in english
Starting point is 02:30:52 The first one came out here. So hopefully this will come out, but who knows Uh, nothing else interesting. Oh, that's not true start online too got announced for the switch At that direct in japan. Did it? Yes, it did. Oh, yeah for japan How do you feel about that? confident, cool um also cool is uh
Starting point is 02:31:17 They they opened up the registration for uh, evo japan. It's a thing they're doing and what's cool about this Oh, there's some yeah, okay. What's cool about this is it's fucking free So if you're in japan and you want to sign up for evo all the games All the games in 2018 they're free. What's which is really smart because it's just like you'll crowd the place It's our first year. Let's try to make it not like a garbage event by having everybody show up because it costs nothing Yeah, so that's smart. There is a downside to that though. What's the downside? There are I think smash and it might be one other game. Yeah arms and smash have zero price pool at all Yeah
Starting point is 02:31:54 Weird. Yeah, that's true because the since there's no entry fee The pool is getting put up by the publishers, right? Yes. Yes. And nintendo's like gnaw Because nintendo because nintendo. Yeah, at least they're allowing it to fucking happen in their own backyard No less all they would have to do is walk out to it really it's right there, but no So be it Anyway, at least melee isn't there be thankful Amen kage put in some work. Well, you get to save some money on the hoses Let's
Starting point is 02:32:31 No to hose down the arena afterwards That's what yeah, that's what I thought Gotcha If you've got some letters and you want to send them in You can send them to super best friendcast at gmail.com That's super best friendcast at gmail.com First email comes in from ben. He says dear smelly butt fart cast Damn, how does he know gentle ben?
Starting point is 02:33:01 What do you think about playing games in public do worry about people Looking over your shoulder when you're playing your 3ds on the bus switch vita Mobile engage etc. Have you ever found the situation to be embarrassing? You've forgotten comments from people No, I remember I was playing Sonic our kind of heart sonic rush in say ship and a friend of mine
Starting point is 02:33:26 Walked in as I as the the in-between loading screen came up and fucking Cream was talking to me about chow's In her fucking voice acting And he looks at that he looks at me and he just goes what the fuck is that? And I go it's it's a sonic game and he goes Oh right And walked out of the room
Starting point is 02:33:51 And you never played a sonic game ever again Sonic friends are embarrassing. I mean as as much as I love cream is not even the worst. Oh, I mean cream is pretty bad She's pretty bad, dude. I never mind as much as I'd love to have a a a a a monster What what the fuck is a monster musa man? It's not monster musa man. That's the one where you jerk off your vita No, that's not the one that's not the game. Is it when you want where you fucking jerk off your vita? Yeah, that's the one is a monster musa man. I'm pretty sure no wait. No One piece as much as I don't want a monster mon peace story
Starting point is 02:34:24 Not really though I tend to like play like easily quittable games in in public So I don't know like if you see me playing tetris attack or fucking like Tactics advance like that's that's about as far as yeah, I can't think of anything Really if someone else is playing like a game. I'll like look over their shoulder to see what you're playing what you're playing Which got over there. Yeah, I always I'm the guy that looks I want to see what you up to I want to judge you for sure for sure, but the only time I'm like No, thanks. It's like I the switch had just just come out like that weekend
Starting point is 02:34:57 If there's kind of coming back from Pax East and I was playing Zelda I think and some guys say hey want to play with me want to play what games do you have want to play with me? I'm like No I don't know you. Yeah. Yeah, and I'm clearly playing Zelda So I'm not going to stop my game to play Puyapop tetris or whatever was out at the time. So I was just like no like that don't want but you see it's that It's the only interaction but it's that new console camaraderie that's expected because he wants his gadget to create a you're like a complete Like he was on the the the plane
Starting point is 02:35:33 If we're in a line of packs and there's a couple of people switches and there was But like there it could kind of be like yeah, whatever, but I'm no I'm on a plane because I'm like, you know I'm having my alone time. Yeah. So for me, there's something also I guess that's worth mentioning is that it never went away, but like part of me growing up was You're taking your fucking video games out of the house. Are you a fucking idiot? No, you're not You're keeping that here idiot. So don't break you don't stall under slash you want you want someone to fucking take your shit Yeah, you want to we want to walk around with a sign on your neck saying rob a fool You know like no you're not taking your shit out with you because that's what idiots do that gets their shit took
Starting point is 02:36:18 So that kind of is always a little bit there even though it doesn't exist when you're an adult anymore really But I just remember like that kind of Shaped my bringing my gameboy to class sort of you know Thoughts early on something similar to that whenever I've bought a new console And the last times I can think of is like when I got my xbox one ps4 No ps4 came to me in the mail, but xbox one and switch I'm carrying them home from the store and I assume everyone wants it And they'll jack me and grab my oh, yeah, because it's the hottest shit ever
Starting point is 02:36:52 That's why and that so I got my xbox one. I'm gonna say someone's gonna try to take that That worry is that when I get those things like there there might as well be a cab like running outside the store To just like climb in and immediately go back right and even then don't keep your keep your eye on the taxi driver You never know you never know when the gas might get released and look what happened when I brought my gameboy to fucking school Right the one time anyway Someone's trying to get my copy of rise son of rom Someone's trying to jack my copy of dead rising three. I'm sure oh, yeah
Starting point is 02:37:32 Though I fully like that classic though like well, like I said when they announced three five or five I remember that morning. Yeah, I just got up calmly walked out Purchased a PlayStation 4 in hand no bag receipt and crumpled in fist And just marched back home holding it in my fist like I am done now. That's the purchase um Paul says what was your go-to late 90s to 2000 suburban pop punk rock song Blink 182 have an essence green day. What's yours? I liked a bunch of blink 18. Adam song. Adam song. I'm not even counting lambiscus. That's not even fair
Starting point is 02:38:13 So yeah, Adam song is a big one there was like I remember when we were doing it. We were in art school or whatever class and like they'd be playing people would take over the radio and Put their own show sometimes you do an airbrush Yeah, you're just listening to other people stuff and like just endless this one like girl would put in this endless amounts of Like any saw any group where it's like i'm waiting i'm watching i'm crying for you You broke my heart
Starting point is 02:38:46 It's the same fucking thing every time. Yeah, yeah, so share on that time. Oh god, uh, popper roach is a big one Like Yeah, no because like I linkin park corn lambisca. They're all like their own Tier like I I consider that like a little below where it's like that. So oh some 41 I was super into some 41 like their first or second album. I love them unironically and that guy melted After avril has been dumped his ass when they turned he melted like the fucking dude from at the end of robocop When they turn into pain for pleasure Like
Starting point is 02:39:24 I still love it. I still love it uh At least some 41 had a fun like On the back burner metal aesthetic that did bring up time to time. Yeah, I discovered I discovered uh evanescence In the last year in the club spaces I remember the comic book club Evanescence may be one week before I discovered evanescence and I said wow
Starting point is 02:39:52 This girl can add this girl's actually got a great singing voice and you looked at me and said imagine as she's saying anything that mattered Yeah, yeah our our friend our friend lives introduce that of course you would yeah Oh, man, evanescence. I wish they weren't they wish that they all didn't die Yeah, they're dead in your field of paper flowers Oh They're all over You want to hear the worst you want to hear the worst soundtrack ever like listen to the thomas jane punisher soundtrack
Starting point is 02:40:27 That's got fucking evanescence. I thought you were gonna say uh, uh dare devil. Yeah dare devil was really bad. Okay. There's yeah dare Okay. Yeah dare devil and punisher together make this fucking shit storm of like shitty aughts music Come on That's good stuff. I don't know. I didn't actually answer Hybrid theory is a great album There there. No, you can't it's what it's too good. It's It has to be explicitly shitty not shitty. It just can't be that good or how about the fucking remix album with a zaku on the cover I'm not an animation
Starting point is 02:41:02 Dude. Yeah, I was listening to reanimation like last week. I don't care for reanimation Every song on reanimation is awesome. There's a fucking you dude. It like the remixers are so sick It's better than collision course of jz. Oh, it's not but it is really this really good way There's too many good tracks right that like A they got the track where they get the dude from Jurassic 5 in there with the deep voice Because there's like 19 tracks on reanimation and there's enough good Tracks that trump the amount of good tracks on collision course. I don't mean by overall quality I mean by just like sheer and then there's that then there's that music video with the gundam in it. So, yeah
Starting point is 02:41:38 Yeah, that's easy Fucking shinoda knew he had you in his pocket then what was wasn't there a video that was just a cg war? Yeah, yeah, yeah video was that their heads. It was for um place for my head. Yeah They had all their cg heads and like jars Or something it was just a big cg battle. Yeah, man. They were crazy. They were fucking crazy. Oh, that was amazing There was a place for my head or like paper cut Something like that. Oh, and then they have maryland manson on one track of it, too I don't recall they had they had jonathan davis. There were some really good ones
Starting point is 02:42:16 They had the corn guy. They had like some other people thrown in there at points of authority. Yeah, it was points of authority Yeah, yeah, shit, man And like and all the all the remix names are like cutting out letters Yeah, like dashes randomly like cr4 The yeah place for my head was like yeah. Yeah, it was it was actually really cool. God damn it For animations because usually remix albums are like best of albums are usually shitty like they're like really lazy But they actually put in the work to make the songs like
Starting point is 02:42:46 sound different Yeah, and then they just and because it was it was all of hybrid theory, right? It wasn't pretty much an album, too Then they had executioner song which wasn't from anything Uh, I don't and like Yeah That's so that's so that's a good time that was sure and then we all tapped out before minutes to midnight Yep Meteora
Starting point is 02:43:10 Yeah, hybrid theory reanimation meteor and then after that I like honestly lost track. Yeah, okay because yeah meteor has got some good Meteor because faint is faint right? Nobody's listening. What track is faint? I think it's seven four. I want to say it's seven. Yeah, we're gonna check right now I remember watching the behind the scenes thing that came with that fucking album And it was like it was chester saying like oh man So we want to have a really big violin noise for this track, right? But we didn't have enough violins. So get this we recorded 10 violins and then we then we doubled it And then we doubled it again. I remember yeah, whoa, that's crazy. Yeah, so many violins
Starting point is 02:43:55 It's out of control and then you drown it out with shinota I am a little bit of no miss a little bit of this guard hand full of complaints that I can't At least remember the last one. Yep. Yep. Yep. Nobody's listening with the japanese flute But nobody's listening. Yes. Yes. Yes, buddy. He's listening Good stuff. All right. We should turn this into the super bad number to get our cats on that Oh, no, wait. No, it's it's number seven. It's seven. Yeah And it's the music video where it's shot from the back and they're on the stage and they're looking at the crowd
Starting point is 02:44:33 Everything's all yellow and golden That was a good fucking music video. Oh, and they did all the fucking uh spray panning shit Like for the promotion of that. Yeah. Yeah, like I had a yeah, it's cool I think meteor may be the only time I ever got excited for an album in my entire life And not let down that's pretty good. No That's pretty good. I think it's the only time I heard about looked forward to bought and listened to an album and was excited enjoyed it um
Starting point is 02:45:04 Let's take what excuse me, uh Dear matt woolly and pennywise the dancing clown. Hey networks Uh horror movies are generally easy to sum up people try not to die and uh Fair enough something's trying to kill them My question is when it comes to the actual murderous force Do you consider an unknown potentially unstoppable monster? Do you okay? I guess it's would you rather uh an unknown potentially unstoppable monster or a
Starting point is 02:45:36 Human with no hesitation to kill and the means to and or desire to do so to be a more frightening antagonist Okay, so and the uh the the subject is style versus gameplay. Yeah, it's pretty good I think in a horror film, uh, a regular ass dedicated person is genuinely scary or than a poorly defined unstoppable force 100 and that is proven in don't breathe Uh, I I can relate to a person And yeah, don't breathe is a great example of how just a normal. I don't agree a hundred percent Yeah, you like the mystics no as long as the rules of this unstoppable force are clearly defined
Starting point is 02:46:21 And they're easy to follow if they're not Then it's a shit show and then it becomes confusing. You don't like actually, you know what but most humans Almost always have clear rules or whatever. Okay. No, you're right. You're right when the monster or the force has something that you can Yeah, understand what what's happening. Why is that what you can do? Then I think it can be actually Shitty shitty horror movies will go it's an evil monster force But then it just does whatever it wants because it's scary for the movie I think you're you've actually convinced me because I'm thinking back and I think probably the scariest and simplest
Starting point is 02:46:57 Like unstoppable force style monster that I can think of is whatever the fuck it is and it follows it When you say the rules, no, it's like it follows is the most interesting thing Because you know exactly what it is That's very interesting in concept because as that movie goes on to the third act its rules start to fall apart. Oh, no a little bit but the Providing there's rule consistency That's the most interesting. It's the most awesome thing if you remember what Quinn Tarantino said about the movies like Holy shit when I first heard holy shit man when I first heard about that. I was like this is gonna change the game
Starting point is 02:47:28 This is such an amazing concept Then when he watched the movie he like gave like a rundown like this is why I think it doesn't work It falls apart after this because it's rules start going out the window But up until that part it's like, oh my god It's so fucking cool. It's a really interesting concept So when it does it well and like only a few movies ever do it like super well, they have this force like
Starting point is 02:47:51 At the end of the day the xenomorph is a combination of a human. It's basically just an animal Yeah, but it does have rules where it doesn't like fire. It's very fast But it's a physical entity and I haven't seen that but I can guarantee you There's some massive contradictions in the final destination world I I already saw the first there must be tons of like places where the force of death just breaks Or doesn't work in the way it used to yeah, you know, how many it dodges until it goes away So I like Jason Jason is so inconsistent throughout movies movies. He has different powers can do this can do that There's one where he isn't Jason for most of the movie. There's that's that's the one that's kind of what I was leading up to
Starting point is 02:48:30 Where it's like that. Okay. We're doing that even the grudge. I I skipped it on my week, but ever but I watched the original Made for tv movie based on the grudge because the first thing I ever saw was the movie That was played in theaters in japan, but there were two Like made for tv specials. Yeah that have a bunch of crazy rules and Oh, no, no, the first ones are fine. But as that series went on, do you know how many grudge movies there are in total? 55 right there's like 12. Holy shit. Wow So as it went on the original creator had nothing to do with them and then they started doing all this crazy bullshit Like oh the main girl fucking had sex with a ghost
Starting point is 02:49:10 Back in her village where she grew up and that's why like no no no that's when it starts to get like too much The grudge is like The the number one with a bullet thing that I hate about the unstoppable force like it gets really bad Well first the first couple are okay, but then it starts getting well no for for me the problem is that Like the rule of the grudge is did you walk inside the house? Yes? You're dead. You're dead Period but he like I I actually looked at some of wikipedia because after watching it's like what are like have they updated the rules If a person that's been in the house that that has been like cursed not dead yet
Starting point is 02:49:48 They get in a close contact with someone else. They are also cursed now Oh Great, but like it's really devastating to me once I figured out what the rule for the grudge was Like there was no tension because like it's set in fucking stone You walked in the house. Yeah, you're dead. Uh, I want to give a shadow when they burn down the house and it's gone Just freeze the grudge doesn't it What just freezer doesn't it? Yeah, just to go anywhere. Just whatever. Yeah, great. Good job. I'm free. I'm free Uh, yo, this is you are all free now
Starting point is 02:50:22 Punch the hole in the wall I want to shout out to one that's not listed there, but it is the mysterious force that happens in arms to the mysterious force Killer whatever that is happening And then the human that comes from it slash it only happens to one person and then that person becomes the killer like the shining Okay, right. Okay where jack Nicholson is the only one experiencing this bullshit and the rules are clear It's this whole place, but then he becomes the killer. You know that that's a good one Uh
Starting point is 02:51:01 Yeah, that's that's a solid as well But yeah, like sometimes I've seen human serial killers are like they don't do anything interesting Like it's not black and white whether one can be better than the other Just matters if like the rules are clear or the motivations of the human killer are Are fine. I liked uh american horror story season one. That's the only one I watched I'm not sure if you're checking out slopey. I saw the Yeah, I know I know what's going on every season gets worse. It's really really bad Uh, but that first season I I remember enjoying with um
Starting point is 02:51:36 The yeah, and and that was the thing where you're like, okay What are the rules? Yeah, because it's like it's happening and the whole thing was figuring out what the rules were and in the end It like it wrapped up all these storylines, but the rules were consistent You know, so you're like if it breaks at any point. Fuck you But it ended up working out and like I remember being like, yeah, that's a well done thing. Um, but yeah, just definitely like Uh, something to be said about like, uh, yeah the most consistent like understandable thing But then the the whole thing with the rules though is that like how many um
Starting point is 02:52:09 Think rustling the rules matter How many things are there like it follows where just like on concept only you're like i'm in oh, I got one So there's this horror movie where the gimmick is that you can't say the name or think the name of the monster The bye-bye man And if you think of the bye-bye man, the bye-bye man can make you go bye-bye Oh, he comes to so guess what it never talks about it, but I watch the bye-bye Why'd you watch the bye-bye man the bye-bye man is based on a very good Short story that a guy wrote and then this person whoever the movie maker or whatever made the film and
Starting point is 02:52:48 During the entirety of the movie. They don't explain who the bye-bye man is They don't explain where he came from what his powers are he just if If you go into any Place domicile house It didn't even seem to matter that they're in this house There's a bunch of college kids they go inside and some guy like let's just move in here. Let's cool. It's it's near campus Let's go and he opens up a drawer like a nightstand and on the inside of the drawer the guy that went crazy previously
Starting point is 02:53:20 After thinking and thinking about the bye-bye man wrote the bye-bye man On it and he goes. Oh shit. Some guy wrote the bye-bye man on that. That's a weird name Huh the bye-bye man that's strange And the whole point is that you tell anyone you go. Hey, I'm researching the bye-bye man Does that come up in like libraries or microfilm or whatever? And then there's someone goes home the bye-bye man. They're dead They're now so what happens if you fly a plane over the city and sky write the bye-bye man in the clouds global catastrophe
Starting point is 02:53:57 At least for that anyone that what happens Uh, it didn't go into that thing but bye-bye But what you do in the only effect of part of that movie In the only effect of part of the movie the very opening intro is a guy walking around like the 1950s Like suburbia with a shotgun shooting anyone in the head that he told the name so it doesn't spread That's a cool scene. Yeah, and then it goes into the rest of it And then it's like, yeah, if you tell anyone fucking kill them Just in case they tell someone else about bye-bye man
Starting point is 02:54:29 Like what if bye-bye man also has a skinless dog That just runs around and doesn't really seem to do anything. Is that the bye-bye dog? Yes. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye boy. Bye. Bye Bye bye bork So bad, you know like like what if season eight of game of thrones comes out and the whole intro plays and then at the end It's just directed by the bye-bye man Are millions and millions of people he's gonna be busy. Does that's worse on the grudge Does this mean that n-sync is the most dangerous thing to global peace ever? Hold on. Hold on. What? What if when you think about the bye-bye man, you log on to fear.com
Starting point is 02:55:12 No, and you go into the search bar of that fear.com and you search for the bye-bye man. Yeah Yeah Right while listening to jeepers creepers. Yeah. Oh and under related searches is candy man and beetle juice Don't say those names. Don't search them three times You're going too old and classic. We got it. We got to keep it in early aughts Fear.com. I can't believe you have all people that I know lianna doesn't know fear.com Fuck yeah, fear.com featuring veronica mars All right
Starting point is 02:55:48 There was another one too after jeepers creepers, but I don't remember what it was New jeepers creepers is coming out soon jeepers creepers three. No straight to video I mean vod I don't get the point of jeepers creepers. It's a fucking bat monster that steals your eyes. Where'd you get those peepers? That's the only reason they heard this song and they're like we can make a monster out of that What I'm coming in from nolan says dear mp3 file pretty good I like that. That's okay Suppose right now
Starting point is 02:56:22 Till the age of the character you pick You could age into any old or an old person from any media Uh, who do you pick and then he gives a bunch of rules, but who cares about that shit revolver osla? That's that's fine. He says joseph for him. Joseph's killing. Yeah, I'm gonna say, uh, master roshi Because he's infinite years old and he's a fucking badass Is it pervert and he still fights and he's still super strong I'm master roshi. I'ma go with that I can't say their name because even old snake. I can't say their name because it's spoiler
Starting point is 02:56:57 Oh Then don't say it uh the uh the primary long-term antagonists Of the first couple arcs of hero academia. Okay Oh Stanley. Yeah, might as well be There you go. Thanks jubeh I think they got to grab my boobs. He did he did but I think uh, she kicked his ass though. I think roshi's got him beat Yeah, maybe you get has his own island roshi roshi's grabbed like eight billion boobs It's true. It's a lot
Starting point is 02:57:37 And he saw he saw boneless kooch What by accident because a fucking goku Yeah, you're up on your dragon ball pervert lore. I remember that shit zut pack Just grabs a tack It's not the noise And no because I remember I remember specifically reading in the early issues too like like uh, se ins
Starting point is 02:58:02 In french was the the word for boobs. Yeah. Yeah, it's what he's like. So like he like uh, roshi'd. I'll be like, oh, they say Oh Yeah, yeah, yeah, um Let's go with one from ivory Car dear pro flesh beast collective got it Oh Back when the demo version of vanquish was released I remember being pretty turned off by the game movement and cover shooting felt good
Starting point is 02:58:29 But I was obsessed with the melee because of the dope robot pummeling animation Felt punished by the game for wanting to use the melee mechanics and sam loses so much mobility and power once you struck an enemy I dropped it then and there took me a while But I finally picked it back up and I blazed through it. I'm starting a god hand difficulty playthrough soon Good for you god hard rather My question is have you ever been turned off by a game due to restricted use of a mechanic you love Ie transformation type our states powerful weapons, etc. And then come back to the game. Absolutely all the best from a robot named ivory Mm-hmm
Starting point is 02:58:58 What's you guys's pick because I know what mine is Uh, I turned off from a game and then came back to it. Um, well, I mean I was initially like, yeah, it's Weird, I guess but I talk a lot about it how like once I figured out how to just pretend to be a big daddy in Bioshock, I just did nothing. I just came to your place one time You didn't say anything to me and you're just drilling and dashing and you wouldn't talk to me So why do you like you for like 30 minutes? I don't know you were supposed to do a video And you were just like no, man, I gotta finish you're just drilling and I don't remember that exactly exactly
Starting point is 02:59:35 Drilling and dashing was a thing Yeah, also fucking kudos if you're going through your god hard playthrough of vanquish. That's awesome. Um, good luck on that Yeah, you have to have all that crazy shit like mechanics figured out like the uh dash roll and quick and the reload and the fucking Damn, that's crazy shit Good job. Um, yeah, I'm yeah, I'll just say bioshock and then in part two they kind of committed to it more They sure did. Yeah, so Um, I think uh, when that last that that mad max game came out, uh
Starting point is 03:00:08 Uh, a few years ago Uh, I remember seeing videos where you did like suplex chains and like a bunch of throws And when I first started playing the game, I was like, I couldn't do it and It's because the the skill tree that was really weird and restrictive And I stopped playing it for a while And then I was like, I I kind of like I don't know where that shit is. How do I do it? I stopped playing for a while. Then we did a video for it. You and I played it Um, you remember we had a bunch of recording problems like it just didn't record or whatever
Starting point is 03:00:40 We did and then I played the game like a bit more and I got enough skill points and finally I unlocked and then you Could do a bunch of like cool suplexes because I mean the game has arkham combat but like arkham combat is really simplistic where You at least get a lot of the same animations where badman just tumbles does punches and kicks But like I always thought that Particularly fights I'll be cool with more throws and holds and things like almost like a like a wrestling game And mad max kind of had that so when I put more time into it to kind of find those mechanics I was like, oh shit now I play that I almost beat that game to completion
Starting point is 03:01:14 Then I dropped off on it because it was just getting hard with the uh vehicle combat. But yeah mad max This little pete a decent game for me. It's demon souls. It's everything in that game. Like it's no one specific mechanic I hated demon souls. You don't remember. I remember you going like why the fuck is everyone playing this? You remember back when I first Fucking picked it up and just like everyone tells me this game is great this game fucking sucks I even remember you saying like we could never do a video for this ever
Starting point is 03:01:45 Because it sucks. We've like lp'd everything. Yeah and Just like I just couldn't fucking get my head around Any mechanics the level design the way the health worked the stand like all of it And I don't know what the fuck it was, but I gave it like three extra attempts But before it clicked I think I had a long talk with a friend of mine who like explained like They had to explain like the design mentality behind a bunch of the the choices that I was hating on before I was like Oh
Starting point is 03:02:20 And now I'm you know fully converted Yeah, I'm sure there's a better example out there, but I can't remember it. So that'll have to do Cool Um And we'll take one final one from jason
Starting point is 03:02:41 says Uh, hey jason my fiance and I were recently. Oh, excuse me dare super breasts My fiance and I were fiance. Yeah, we're recently watching the mummy It's it's your question now that the frazier one not the cruise one. Oh good We're gonna all answer that and we're happy to to find out that most of the cg in the movie aged pretty well It did Yeah, one or two of them look bad, but overall I don't find so despite Being from an era where cg being overused and was poorly done
Starting point is 03:03:16 This movie avoided the pitfalls of its rivals and still looked good Similar to how Jurassic Park holds up the second one. Jurassic Park still holds up The second one is what movies hold up and you just answered them the mummy in Jurassic Park. Yeah the second Mummy two does not hold up. No, especially the rocks creature thing. It didn't hold up back then Yeah, no, it didn't hold up the day. I saw in theaters mummy one. I think it probably holds up You know what? I bet you holds up. I haven't watched in a couple years But I bet you blade two holds up really well because blade those monster mouths I don't know one does not no. I think those big those
Starting point is 03:03:52 Uh, maybe maybe actual mouths are probably looking you might be right But like blade one when vampires get blown up into like no Looks like crap There's a part in blade two where they do the fucking kung fu vampire fight in front of the lights and his hideout And I remember people making fun of that the weekend How dumb is the lukewarm dragon? It's fucking that's the That again, that's a thing that not only didn't hold up back then Didn't hold up 10 years prior to that right if that's objectively terrible like it's the worst
Starting point is 03:04:26 But what actually what are the some things like the answer is Jurassic Park? I mean that that that is the answer You know Anything with animatronics really? Yeah, but even the cg is like what it holds well You have a combination of cg and practical effects that helps hiding a lot like t1000 being like terminator two holds up Yeah, because it's shiny liquid so it's allowed to look like they decided to do a thing that they could do Which is smart of james Cameron. Yeah, you know like good job, dude avatar will
Starting point is 03:04:54 Hold up in another 20 years Uh, blue blue blue dicks avatar. Blue dick avatar. Yeah, okay. Yeah, like it looked amazing then it'll look amazing 20 years Uh, cheese. Oh toy story toy story always looks good. It's a little different. Yeah, but it's awesome But again, it uses the medium to its advantage by making like fake things that are supposed to look fake. Yeah Special effects and mortal combat the first movie Still hold up because it was a huge combination. Well some things reptile didn't look great But actually no fucking it looked terrible. They have all those you forgot. Yeah I did i'm thinking of stuff like with scorpion or whatever fucking that reptile looks like shit
Starting point is 03:05:39 Yeah, it's all looks like shit bad. Hey, does small soldiers still look good? You'd have to ask later. I don't know. I don't know. We watched it at that con. I wasn't there Yeah, you weren't I wasn't invited. No, that was jerry george's room and I was I wasn't there. No Yeah, you're not a dad yet. You can't get in there. I stayed away Uh, yeah, I mean Ninja turtle suits look stupid Especially in part three Oh, no part one and two they look part one. They look awesome part two
Starting point is 03:06:05 They look worse and part three like the worst of all the mobility goes down, you know in each movie Yeah, marz attacks I don't marz attacks aliens still they're they're cartoony enough. They're still good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I'd say that's that, you know But anyway, yeah, there we go. There we go deep rising What about it? I wonder if that holds up They're with the fucking shark. No, that's deep lucy Fuck deep rising is the one with the guy that played cano in the mortal combat movie And there's like a big squid on the ship deep rising is one of the winners of the best name your dick with a movie title
Starting point is 03:06:40 No, nothing would be yours. Mine was the best one. This one's yours. It's a dick event horizon. That's good. That's a good dick name That's a good dick name. It's super good. My my favorite is the opposite Failure to launch failure to launch That's the best one pretty strong the fuck is deep rising man It's it's a bunch of criminals go on a An abandoned ship and there's there's these technicals from like a giant squid monster that like rip off everyone's skin A series of unfortunate events Yeah, we're just gonna play this dick game now. I mean that dick games get super strong when to get into it
Starting point is 03:07:17 Just like most dick games. All right Um who loves dick games? And that's it. I think this is all the movies Like forever the thing Yeah, if you want to go real extreme, it's the thing from outer space Also, since I watched it in too long I was talking to Pat about it the fly the original fly those animatronics still hold up Yeah, but that the question was more about cg. Wasn't it? It was about cg. Yeah. Yeah, I guess It's it's more datable
Starting point is 03:07:50 Shaft What about shaft how's his cg? Yeah, what'd you say peoples was a character created entirely in cg dick names, man Yeah, it doesn't hold up the final battle of the last samurai when there's like 50 billion Samurais and they just copied and pasted. They just took the clone tool and photoshop And they just draw that part again over that part. It's only a couple of shots But I remember watching I bet you the spirits within holds up super well I actually bet you a fucking does it looks okay. It looks okay. You know, what's the all-time anti-winner to this question berserk
Starting point is 03:08:35 I believe it It's either the anti-winner or the biggest loser you get to pick which one you want to go with I personally like the anti-winner uh, all right Let's uh, let's uh Start the descent No, we're now, you know, whatever winding down. Yeah, the airplane is is you got to buckle up your seat belts Return your seats to an upright position. Don't you know, I can't stand sometimes take your headphones out some flights
Starting point is 03:09:04 They'll sell you tell you that and other flights will fly coming back in my life. No one fucking told me shit Yeah, yeah, yeah, so then I'm like, what's what where's the air? Air Canada is all about take your headphones out We were on air Canada So they didn't tell me to take my shit out and I always I always leave it in I have I put one until someone tells me. Yeah, I put one sometimes I've hidden it We're howling my jacket or I put I put some shit around my yeah So I hide them like I'm listening to my thing Oh, I got big dumb dreads. I can hide them in it's pretty good. You're super good that way. Yeah. Yeah, I wish I had that
Starting point is 03:09:37 Um, so yeah, I could put on. Yes. Where where there you go Dreadway, will he shave your hair put it in away a couple give me a couple you can just buy one of those stupid Like Jamaican hats. Yeah, actually, you know what just cut it off like three From the banana and he'll I'll cut it off in the banana. Just tape him next to his ear Where his sideburn goes and where that is a look Uh, I'm like, look you have so many threads. Yeah Why are you fucking bow guarding them? Look, what's going on over here, man? Come on. You got so much of hair
Starting point is 03:10:13 Got so much of hair. I don't know why it went like that I am looking forward to samus I'm looking forward to It's really good. You'll love it. Yeah, I mean, you know, come on But but mercury's seemed good. Yeah. Good. Good. Good. Finally uh, and I'm looking forward to um
Starting point is 03:10:37 learning Two bread and butter combos in marvel and learning enough to just be competent at it so that I can like Play it if it's around that people are playing it. Don't worry. You won't run into that situation You probably will though. I probably will and I need to have some there's a really specific like Get good at marvel now. Someone interesting characters come out. You'll be good. There's a go There's a really really specific tone you just had in your like exhale sad laugh That like meant that you didn't attempt to even dispute me at all. It's just like Yeah, you're done. Just like because usually like no, no, that's a good game in this one. It's just
Starting point is 03:11:21 Because there's no way to fight boring You know what I mean? I do know what you mean. You can fight a lot of things You can fight lack of arcade mode. You can fight bugs. You can fight characters on the disc You can fight on balance Yeah, you know you can fight pricing. You can fight Season passes and bullshit. You can fight augment your pre-order And that's that was successful even right it was not no the people fighting it made a go away. Yeah the fight against it
Starting point is 03:11:54 You can't you can't fight a lack of excitement. You can't fight boring Yeah, you know that being said I one thing I really hate is when like, you know I mean obviously the hate train's going But like when the hate train's going and then people that don't understand or know anything try to jump in I want to be on the hate train too. It's like no, you're just a fucking idiot. Can I come? No, you don't know You don't you don't have the right when you're taking screenshots of reused puffed out shirt and going look at this Hunchback and I'm like Yeah, you mean the thing everyone loved about third strike because he's doing a fireball and this shirt's going like
Starting point is 03:12:30 Stop trying so hard and like hate it for the legitimate reasons that are numerous and plentiful It's something that I like there's an access of of things there It's something that I like to say to somebody when they're stressing about something that's not all that important Yeah, and it can be applied here. There's plenty to worry about without inventing new ones without inventing new problems Exactly, right? There's plenty here. Yeah, don't worry about it. Yeah I mean worry about the bed like even that dumb yula thing is like That's a dumb one that hasn't been on a steam game since but it's like it's a basically a clip going You're not allowed to run tournaments. It's basically
Starting point is 03:13:13 It's basically what the yula says and it's like yeah, they just like giving blanket rights away in yulas and like You know Whether or not you could that'll hold up I should point out that just because a yula is on a product does not make that yula legally That's what i'm saying is whether or not that holds up is usually discovered in retrospect. Yes, but the text is there Nearly always yulas are found to be like you can't force people to agree to these terms You know by agreeing to this you agree to to worship and and dedicate your firstborn child You know like yeah, yeah, I agree. Yeah, that's good. This is good
Starting point is 03:13:50 And lyser use since agreements are not contracts try that again end user license agreement. No, you got it wrong And lyser uses I said the second time I said end user license agreement and lyser and lyser user agreements Use useful and license user agreement the final lyser is here to agree with you Will you sign this agreement? Yeah, right? Um, let's let's let's uh Where we're doing Our video stuff and then let's do some some quick game of thrones Yeah, let's do quick game of all right video stuff dead space is going to be finishing up pretty soon And after that the ship storm should be happening. Pew pew pew. Maybe uh, we don't know if we're going to do it this year
Starting point is 03:14:33 Yeah, we actually don't know if we're going to be doing the shit storm this year. That's true Well, pro we probably won't be doing the shit storm this year. We might be doing blank blank storm I want to do a poop tornado. Yeah poop nato. Yeah, I like that and get creative with the world Changed around us while we were doing these videos. Yeah. Um You can do a lot with um natural disasters and feces. Yeah, uh, will you and I's too much Continued journey into mel Gibson space psyche continues. Yep with more police knots And we got to record more more mark echo tomorrow if I told you There was a future
Starting point is 03:15:15 Yes, or you could take the dna of attractive hollywood people which I have and clone them Into babies that grow up to basically be space prostitutes That you own and are kind of related to because you're technically the father But you save them for parties as guest entertainment. Yeah, what would you say? I'd say sign me up Sign me up for that future. The correct words are thanks kojima. Thanks. Oh, well, I figured that's you know, that was coming Uh, yeah one more echo and there's a lot of like fun little games that came out this week that we're going to do probably one Also, yeah a couple a couple one officer worth it. I'd say for sure for sure
Starting point is 03:15:56 Uh, yeah, as for me. I'm looking forward to one of those games is fight in rage Uh, the be a like kind of weird I don't even know. It's like a one of those advanced beat-em-ups like advanced beat-em-upping Uh, that has like uh some anthropomorphic There's a there's a poet there somewhere You can play as a bull guy you can play as a martial arts guy and a girl and uh, you fight a bunch of like Looks like villains from uh, what's it called a biker mice and street sharks. Yeah, and that game looks really fucking sick So I might stream that this week. I'm not sure
Starting point is 03:16:33 And also me and Liam Are in the second part of life is strange Before the storm that's going up on uh the flop house my side channel So here's the thing If anyone looks at the first thing they're like man, Chloe's still a piece of shit. Yeah, that's all I've heard about this Guess what? In the second part of that of the that episode that they released You immediately go into like one of the more Fun diversions i've ever seen in any telltale style game ever
Starting point is 03:17:03 We'll go into it, but it's a legit 15-minute chunk of a dnd campaign. That's cool that you have to make choices for that's really cool And you can completely miss this. I like I like that kind of it was very very fun Where I'm like I could play a game where I play as characters playing as dnd It made a good case. You want you want you want polka night at the inventory with That is an amazing game idea So we played this and it was like I'd say a good 15-minute chunk and you can die And that you you leave the game and like I gotta go but we were able to complete it
Starting point is 03:17:41 So that was really really fun. So like kind of the negativity of Chloe being a shit is exclusively for adults that she doesn't like And when she much like a teenager and then when you actually get to play around with people you like she's fine So, uh, I enjoyed that cool. Um I mean technically there'll be a podcast between now and then but The game that's never coming out is coming out. What game is that? It's I believe it's called pothead. Oh, yeah that game's not coming out So, yeah, that's coming out. It's really great that I have to get those kids Sired immediately so that they can tell their kids that they got to play cuphead. You better get cracking
Starting point is 03:18:21 I know I don't have a lot of time. No, it's gonna be delayed. You got Oh, I'm gonna I'm gonna back it off there compliance failure. You got a week compliance failure Six months back in but you got a week to get to the third trimester, buddy. It's gonna be rough So, yeah cup in Didn't think we'd ever live to see the day Well, I felt that way about super time force and that did come out also It did and two versions of it. I felt that way about the last guardian and hey One day you'll play it and persona five
Starting point is 03:18:55 And if any of us be in the last garden, no no one beat it. I didn't beat it. I didn't beat it And there was another never game that came out What was it? There was another one that we were like, what? Well, don't worry. There's now a full full never game for you That's been fully super cancelled forever and it's half life three So you can just hold on to that one forever. I can't think of another one I I've on like, you know, that's your prime popular opinion time, but I've never start caring about it So that you can mourn it. I've never actually cared and I've played half life one. I just that's life one is
Starting point is 03:19:33 That's your prime four Is that the what what? No, no, no, no What about dooper metroid? Metroid dread Yeah, Metroid dreads never coming out. Yeah, well since it's never it was never a game legends three Legend three magma legends three oh That the demo that came out so it technically existed kind of
Starting point is 03:20:01 maybe I don't know it's done now. All right. You guys want to talk about your game of thrones Let's get the fuck out. All right. I'm gonna fuck out. Fuck out. Fuck out. Bye everybody Enjoy your nerd shit with zombies Yeah, I don't know what the fuck is going on. Watch it. I thought I could just attack He's only gonna watch it when it's done apparently. Yeah, which it is. Yeah, pretty much. No, it's not. Isn't there another series? No, it's done You better watch it
Starting point is 03:20:31 All right, y'all gotta have a good rest of your watch it and then Fucking watch it as in, you know, like watch yourself careful as then watch so I can't believe Daenerys died That was crazy Yeah, we're gonna do a we're doing a got cast so A little labor better than ever. Yep. So if you're listening beyond this point consider the podcast over and But if you like the thrones of games when the music comes back We will be
Starting point is 03:21:05 Got casting Oh Oh Oh Should we like wait for him to leave the building or should we just Close the door do we have to wait for you to leave? Close the door are you pissing really loud? He can't not with that thing god
Starting point is 03:23:09 Ah like one of those squirt baby dolls No, those plastic ones you put in the water and it sucks up Recently tweeted about he's like or whatever there's a clip where he's like, yeah, man, you know what small hands are great for Making dicks look bigger I don't know everyone's like Okay, he's like, it's like wait. No, I don't mean mine. I like okay. All right, buddy. Sure. All right Hey What do we need to close the door because we have to wait for you to leave
Starting point is 03:23:39 You got a problem with that. Yeah, great. Hey tiny hands are good Good contrast Good contrast with the tiny hands We're waiting for you to leave we're being courteous Taking your sweet time. Yeah, it's game of thrones. Don't worry about it. All right Yeah Fucking incest is the name of the game of this podcast and the game of the name
Starting point is 03:24:18 is incest If you have a sister you've been fucking you've been missing out It's no, it's he she's his aunt. Yeah Because that's the yeah, exactly. That's fine. So here's So here's and it's actually fine because guess what in real life the Targaryens Oh in real life the Targaryen history has always been about banging that familiar booty At least Daenerys would be like She would be like, well, no, she would no it'd be more than that finding out would make would
Starting point is 03:24:54 Dude fucking sploosh. That's awesome spot. She'd be like, yeah My babies. I'm all about banging other brothers and sisters and family. All right. So keeping it in So while we're jumping into the end of it So Well an evil witch told me I can't have kids. Well, why would you believe the evil witch that hated you? Yeah, yeah, I guess I never actually tried Also want to find out, you know, like how many line openings is there in that moment For you to just like like Jon puts his eyebrow up and there's like a fucking floating
Starting point is 03:25:32 selection of dialogue choices in that moment. He's like A little romance Daenerys in a Game of Thrones game of the future If that but that's the thing ever like comes about but all right, so let's back up a bit step one Is shorter step shorter season a game of course. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah step one is all the hugs all the reunions. That was fun That was nice a lot of a lot of uh catharsis going around it took a while for people to Fucking finally meet up, but all the shit you've been waiting for the entire show is happening I feel like this this season in particular. They're like, we can't have we can't have two or three groups meeting
Starting point is 03:26:13 We have to have almost all of them meet because it's weird to have stories are still like Like plotting along really slow when tons of shit has happened everywhere else So they're like fuck it But now that everyone's a fucking weirdo and has been through some shit Everyone's kind of you get to see the interactions where they roll up brand and like fucking poor, um Oh god Three-eyed raven
Starting point is 03:26:42 Poor fucking joe jen are you know like where they're just like she's like so Yep We did it And he's like what did this do? You know and she's and he's like yep peace peace, bitch. Yeah close the door don't let the door hit your ass on the way out Yeah, bye. Bye. Bye. Yeah, my brother died for you. I said Yeah, did I stutter did I stutter now? She's just gone. Oh man, and it sucks because um Uh, she will not whatever. It's just like, you know how historically like her parents
Starting point is 03:27:15 Saved Ned. Yeah, and like they have the whole connection of like the old generation is now being recreated How where you've got like fucking dude and like whatever kind of cut to a few episodes or it's like you get your like Oh, we're going back to king's landing. What are we cutting to? um Fucking robert's son. Yeah, just work in the hammer. I never thought I'd see him again I thought that was a completely dropped storyline dude. It was I was so happy. I'm like yes That guy's awesome. He's super cool and he does nothing But he's just a cool guy and like he's nice to have him around
Starting point is 03:27:48 He's also the fastest runner and all of westeros We'll get there But I mean like ideally the fact where they're just like, yo, uh, you know bring your sword He's like, I don't know no, but no fucking sword. I got this. I got this project hammer That was pretty good. Oh, yeah again again. The gendry is the fucking sickest Uh pot pie got his hot pie got his uh his his cameo. That was cool. Remember this season started with aria completely
Starting point is 03:28:18 Wrecking the phrase. Oh hard for the strongest way to start it. Yeah, and then I've seen a season starts And then they ended with her doing the fucking thousand-eyed stare. Yeah, a thousand-yard stare. Excuse me with like You know, oh, she's pretty much a god psycho path now a psycho god Yeah, okay Let's let's stay on the aria track let because it's always hard to you know Do these things with game of thrones because there's so many characters. Although there's way less now than there's ever been but okay, so at what point were you like
Starting point is 03:28:51 This is really stupid because even when she's easy first start everything involving sanza, right when she first started fighting with sanza I'm like because this I was like this does not exactly feel right from the start because no justification But I was worried that the writing was just bad Exactly. It was because every time a show has a moment where there's nothing for characters to do After a big moment re-enacted Just create some bullshit tension out of nothing and I felt that happening and I'm like, please don't tell me You're being this shitty, right? You're just fighting. I don't know where for no reason because there's nothing else going on and fucking Winterfell, you know, so sister's got to get angry fine, right?
Starting point is 03:29:32 And uh little finger of the whole time We're like really doing anything and then like episode two or three just starts doing a bunch of shit You're like why and your whole time the whole time it's like, okay What exactly you never really get an inkling for what little fingers actual grandmaster plan is wants to he wants to He wants to get as high as he can once again as high as he can he wants to fuck sanza Well, yeah, that's what he wants. But clearly at a certain point. He kind of gives up on that when he's like, yo Uh, I don't think he gave up on it at all when he's like, yo bolton have at it Right when he handed her over he kind of gave up on the no
Starting point is 03:30:09 I want to get with sanza. I think he hoped She would be strong enough to survive. I think he was just making moves Might have might have I think trying to hustle. I think in either scenario. He's like, well, she survived there you go Yeah, if she doesn't well, there you go. The and the thing is is I pretty much forgot about that early ass season one line Chaos is a ladder, right? So that's what establishes his character From the fucking beginning And then that dagger the dagger that gets that uh the attempt on brand's life
Starting point is 03:30:42 Yeah, the dagger that gets held to Ned's throat. It was so great that that stuff it gets shown in the fucking book Yeah, yeah in the book, but it was so great that they Like because this season was a lot of remember this stuff Yeah, and it was good to have that because we haven't had that in a while So just in case you kind of forgot and we're going to show that these characters at least piece this together Even years later after it happened It was like great to see finally some connection to some of the older stuff One of the ones that got me was when uh the hound went out to that empty house
Starting point is 03:31:16 Yeah, and it was like, oh you see the bones and he's like, ah, fuck this place, right? and Like I was like Is this Why have we been here before? Is this actually a thing? I felt like something like that and then it was and then because I was like I kind of vaguely Recognize like the the shot of the house, but not so much the people that he's like the two skelts
Starting point is 03:31:38 He totally went to a house earlier on in one of the early seasons He stayed with this family. It was a guy and a girl a dad and her daughter and his daughter And then he's like, you know, it's gonna get winter's coming. You guys are out here You're gonna fucking freeze and die and they're like, we're fine And he's like you fools and then walks out on them So that's totally a callback and I like I barely recalled it Okay, but before we jump to the hound just to finish off the area and sounds of stuff I was like I forget it was think it was the episode before the last one
Starting point is 03:32:08 Where I was like they better They better be working together to fool little finger, but I still wasn't convinced. I wasn't 100% because I wasn't sure if they would be about like if they would do that That would just be so good because it would just this entire arc would like be so much better that way because dude Just talk was in effect. Oh god I was watching liana. I'm like, I know woolly is somewhere screaming. Just talk Just talk was in effect and it was like Going down they were talking, but it was very clear that it was like
Starting point is 03:32:44 Look, I'm like this and you're like that and I don't like that about you I don't like this about you. All right. Well good to walk in going at that point At that point sansa already distrusted little finger. She's like now get my face I'll let you live here. Whatever a bit like don't talk to me or whatever and then the moment she opens up suddenly And is like what should I do and it's like are you serious? Yeah, I was like that's when there was a lot of like still like sansa's the worst like a hater Whatever, but aria didn't know that much. I mean she knew enough not to trust little finger But like wasn't there for that shit? Yeah, so like I'm like, uh, that's the that's the one thing that will work against us
Starting point is 03:33:23 Why he'll get even further versus the stranger exactly So I'm like it'll be fine and she'll like not like whatever don't blame little finger. This is your fault sansa Whatever or whatever and then thank fucking god. It's not just shitty writing It's actually just like we got to get little finger taken the fuck out and how do we do it because wikipedia is on our side Good all good old internet Good old no legs mckinternet over here. No legs mck google tear to save the day Fucking dropping hints already that he knows shit and little finger just looks at him when he's like chaos is a ladder and he's like uh
Starting point is 03:34:03 Yeah And up until the point where she's like looking at aria and she's just like so How do you Confess to these crimes and at that like up at that point. I still wasn't sure and then i'm like Please turn the little finger and say something So the reason why I knew in right away in that scene was because brand was sitting at the table And the fact that he never goes anywhere or does anything with anyone That's the other he sits out in the fucking garden and him sitting at the table there
Starting point is 03:34:32 To me was like he told them he knows and and that's the reason why that could definitely be it But they never expressed or pressly said it but it's easy to assume that that's the way because he wasn't even there during the other meetings With like the problem with brand is that like there's a couple of instances where he says I know everything And you fucking don't or the show is not showing us the scenes where he's telling people shit You clearly don't know everything. Yeah. Yeah, because it's like it's not problem because that's the thing It's like well, he doesn't know everything he has access to everything Yeah, he has to go through the rolodex first right so when fucking sam is like, yo, yo, yo I got some shit and he's like what no and he knows some of it
Starting point is 03:35:10 But he's like, oh, but I didn't know that okay. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up. Hold up But he's like I gotta search and he's you know what I mean and he's fucking yeah Oh, shit. There it is. Yeah, you know, so he's got to find it. That's the thing And it was really very different power from like actual omniscience What do you think about little finger just kind of dying in this sudden like Sudden way where it's just like all your plan was caught up and we're done with your shit Nothing else is going on at winterfell. Yeah, it's cool. It's fine And I think I saw some people saying like they don't know what to do with little finger because if he's not in king's landing
Starting point is 03:35:43 Or some real hub of shit. He has no he has he can't play the game to the max He can't play the game to the max. So he's in winterfell like why not kill him off Because he was getting annoying and kind of useless I was upset in that I wanted one more conversation between him and varus because those are the best parts of Literally my favorite parts of the show. Yeah, are the conversations those two have the first like two or three seasons Like it was always it was always like fascinating, you know, like we fucking hate each other We're almost like opposite gods In a way. Yeah, like you know, you're neutral, but I'm chaotic like yeah
Starting point is 03:36:17 It's it's like almost like a kind like like a story in the background where like again The gods are having a discussion and then the players are doing their own thing not knowing Like these two know and then the fact that uh, melisandre walks up to uh varus later and is basically like Hey spider, what up? Oh, you're gonna you're like me. You're gonna die here, too You know and he's like Fucking fate so stupid lord of light bullshit while it's not important anymore I like are you still bugged by everyone sandbagging shadow baby demon? Where'd it go? Where the fuck what the where did you come from? Where did you go? What happened? I miss you so
Starting point is 03:36:58 Yeah, yeah, it feels like it's been forever since you've been gone Where'd you go? You stabbed rendley and you fucking vanished out. That was it. Did you start it all? Just fucking just like like a opacity out of the fucking scene no, um I doubt that yeah, that's a weird one and of course the whole the whole hilarious thing of like You know Your man keeps talking about how you got stabbed in the heart. Yeah, you took like a blade to the for your people I mean, what's up with that?
Starting point is 03:37:33 Now if I know anything about women It's the fact that if they find out or are told a man died and came back Wet as october, of course david cage has proven this And it shows dedication to the cause it does and john's like Don't worry about that. What are all these six scars all over your body? Ah To be fair, I think like sanza and aria kind of brought back like hey, we're not actually done We figured this out, but john while nothing resulted in catastrophes Did do a bunch of stupid shit that I feel that john from older seasons
Starting point is 03:38:12 might have approached it but still made some decisions where i'm like What why why why did you fucking say that or resurrection changes you it does when when when Okay, what did you think about the main thread of the last couple of episodes where it was like? It just felt not game of thronesy and just because it's not written by jerger mern, but like let's go get a zombo And bring it back to show search because because it was like seems so harebrained But it did absolutely and and and you had to have your moment of all the heroes marching And like that was the weirdest part of the entire show in a way because yeah You had to have a whole first half of the episode of people that haven't met in seasons
Starting point is 03:38:57 Catching up with each other as they're walking in the snow And that's why it resulted in like all of the time skips of traveling People just there well again fast travel has been unlocked right and so in this season We're just jumping all over the john snow got to the tower Right, and now he thinks out he's late But one of the weirdest things is they never cut from one They always would cut from one scene conversation to another place in the westeros Yeah, and in because just one but because they had so much catching up to do and so fewer characters left a lot
Starting point is 03:39:28 Right, you had to have okay So the hound has got to talk to The fucking lord of light guy And then you got to have john talk to the uh like everyone had to have their little moment Mormont shows up mormon just exactly over his disease Yeah, and so they got to have their exchange too like there's so much shit You know for them to go over that you just have like cut to the fog And then back to the snow as we get to part four of this conversation
Starting point is 03:39:55 That was a weird bit, but I knew but I knew it had to happen because I knew it had to lead up to The the the the the what I don't know what to call it, but like the scene that is game of thrones Right, which is everyone is here All the warriors for real reels We're standing on the same set at the same time. You had to think everyone on the set I know one thing you're gonna really like I know a detail about that scene too. What about um, um fucking brawn Yeah, how he the reason why he walked off with padrick or whatever doesn't that feel weird? He says a throwy line like oh, we're too like lower class to talk with these lords and ladies come on padrick
Starting point is 03:40:40 Let's just go. Yeah, and they just walk up and it slowly shows them walking off camera Why is that woolly? Why do you need this fucking brawn and leena headley went out in real life? And she hates his guts and shit because they hate each other's guts And shit got so bad in the breakup that they're contractually obligated To not have to be on the same set at the same time with each other Because lawyers have stated it might get violent Now if you didn't know that you might not have really caught it I didn't believe it until I saw that because he does work and like talk with jamie a bunch
Starting point is 03:41:18 So therefore he's in like one a proxy short of talking to yeah, uh, sir. See a bunch Lena so it's like you might not have figured it out But like when that scene happens like you go, oh, it totally makes sense like why would they just leave this important thing? Or brawn might be like I want to see where this goes. I'm gonna might see a weird creature Jamie is contractually obligated to being the middleman In this con in this relationship You know that there's that you know, there's people wrong on both sides Oh
Starting point is 03:42:02 No, man, and I really liked um speaking of Jamie just like he's come like beyond full circle I've never seen a character just do not one 360, but several revolutions of character Fucking 900 evolution 1080 snowboarding Because I'm like how is it I keep having the moment this guy pushed a child out the window So he could fuck his sister, but guess what? I love him I can't get enough of this guy. He's the best. He's such a hero. You know You can't fucking deny it and like him writing after Daenerys. You're like, oh, I want both sides to win Yeah, and then brawn uses his newfound teleporting powers
Starting point is 03:42:50 I don't know if you caught it No, but when the dragon's coming after him on the giant fucking ballista And he shoots that she shoots the dragon with and then it's and then she breathes fire on the ballista He dives off of it at the last second. Yeah, and then it teleports to it exploding like 20 to 30 feet behind him And you're like how the fuck did that even happen? He's just in the river and then he teleports again to tackle Jamie add into the water, you know Yeah, that was like a real shit thing where it's like when the next episode starts
Starting point is 03:43:22 They're like 100 meters away on the other bank all both wearing armor and they're just like, yeah No, we swam that no problem. No problem. Motherfuckers It was a little crazy. Um I love I love everything about brian and and her She didn't do much, but no no no no was there. She was the object of dude's thirst Uh, fucking uh the wildling guy and he's talking to the hound about it. I was like, no, fuck that All our kids are going to be awesome. It's going to be great. I'm like, please survive I really really like that part of it. It doesn't look like he did man. The wall fell on him
Starting point is 03:43:59 Oh, yeah, yeah, we don't know for sure, but he didn't show up conclusively. He was on top the wall Didn't show him getting killed though. He was on top the wall. Guess what the game of thrones You need to have your skull crushed in camera by a giant who's doing it with his hands. Yeah, uh, wow shout outs to um Fucking uh, uh, uh, uran grayjoy for his ability to dip the fuck out of the season and just explode back like Hey I don't know where I've never been more confusing the only time I was more
Starting point is 03:44:36 Confusing game of thrones is when the actor switched from the one guy that was helping to me. Yeah. Yeah, jack. Not jack in a car Um, um, um, you you cannot say his name. You'll never remember stop it. I'm I I absolutely come on Keep going. Anyway, if you come up with they'll be impressed But I've never been more confused with the two uncle gray joys darryona harris I that's the guy. Here's the problem darryona harris. I don't know if you're correct I don't remember because he's my second favorite character fair enough It's darryona harris and I'll agree with you. Yes, but the two Was until he fucking became that shitty new actor. Anyway, then he just I like I like the old one that looked like
Starting point is 03:45:15 I know he died he died Uh, but no, no, no, no, no, he did she left him in westeros No, no, she left him in uh in isos. Yeah, but the two uncles on the gray joy side I thought there was an actor switch Because there's the charismatic guy that's hanging around with service. He going i'm a fuck you. Yeah, you want to get in there? Yeah, but then there's the other guy. Yeah, and when they first showed him I thought he was that same character And that they replaced the actor. So guess what I've got a story about that. Oh, please. I don't know this one
Starting point is 03:45:48 So you're on gray joy in the books is a super charismatic Fucking playboy millionaire Billionaire boys club. Yeah. Yeah, right To watch check out these ice creams, motherfucker cash money, right dude on He's all about it And he fucking takes his pirates and he just shows up and everyone swims over him wherever he is Right, he can he can talk. It's just not like a gray joy at all No, but he can talk himself into and out of every situation. Yeah, and he also has a fucking sick ass
Starting point is 03:46:19 dragon uh thing, um Whatever dragon weapon dragon, uh, but that's not even a part of um, um what he has here in the in the in the show No, I didn't go into that but So his first appearance with the fucking long hair and they're just going like, uh, man And it's just you're just nobody and nothing and not interesting was just a shitty version of the character and basically
Starting point is 03:46:43 They were like this is not a doing up. You're on justice So with the same actor, they just went cut your hair and play it up more and behave differently And do me and so he clearly started behaving more like So wait, no, I'm even more wrong than they originally thought it's not a different actor No, there wasn't two characters. No, no, no, there wasn't two. It's one gray joy. It's you're on Okay, no, I he left. I just realized what I'm thinking. I'm thinking of the captain That theon beat up really hard in the end of the last episode
Starting point is 03:47:21 No, he's not a great joy Just a random ironborn guy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No and and and but what you're saying is correct where they did do They fucking overhauled and went try this again Same actor just do it better this time But fuck you you that's I did what you told me to do in that episode. I showed up. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know but then it worked after and then uh Again, the shows up and it's like right before um
Starting point is 03:47:49 God damn it. Uh sister gray joy and uh Illyria sand it was so good. They were all just like And and fucking theon's like lesbians with you. Yeah, theon's like ball And and that's fine, right and sand is just like oh anybody Who? Yeah, good times haven't let the good times roll with these two awesome characters. Yeah, and it's like no We got you got to get your arms. Fuck you and cut to them fucking tied up in a dungeon Yeah, and you're like, what horrible shit is cersei gonna do and the answer is not that much
Starting point is 03:48:29 Actually, I expected much worse In terms of what what cersei did to uh, illyria sand What are you talking about? Like I was like the worst I've ever seen well Just making her sit there and torture and and see that is very it's it's horrible What I mean is I expected her to just be like So impatient and like full of rage. Yeah that she just like butchers her in some super gruesome way I'd say that this is always be worse watching your child. It is it is psychologically I'm saying I didn't expect cersei to do the calm
Starting point is 03:49:06 Yeah to have the to do go for the calm but more like punishing thing I expected her to make to explosively make the mountain just go nuts You know, I thought I thought I thought she was going to make the mountain do something really bad But like I mean so bad what happened, but I thought she was going to order the mountain and do something And I was like me, you know, I actually think what they Did especially when she kissed she does it by kissing her. Yeah, absolutely Which is like even more like weird and cersei like hey, I expected cersei to blow shit up. Yeah. Yeah What precedent is there for that?
Starting point is 03:49:40 There's many actually. Yeah I feel so bad for them Yeah, we're just trying to Get their their their revenge and you got to wonder like when fucking the way that so that what was interesting to is the way that Tyrion walks into that room to have that really good conversation With cersei where he's just like get over it your fucking self That went on so long in a good way where I'm like this just can keep going They even have a drink break dude when he's like just fucking kill me then and he's and she nods
Starting point is 03:50:12 And then she's like never actually gives the order to the And then he gets up and silently pours a drink. I'm like, that's the best Yeah, because he's just sweating it, you know, he's like, okay Round two All right, you know, and then it cuts away. So you know, well when she's like, I don't want to hear it And he's like, I don't give a fuck if you don't want to hear it. They're my they're my family The kids that you think I murdered. I love those kids You know, like I'm going to yell at your irrationality conversation before or after when jamie went to after
Starting point is 03:50:46 It was because jamie walked out. He was walking in and they had their moment of like, well I guess this is goodbye, right? When it wasn't really but you know, I love the tie the old lady tyrell got away. She's never lost What you didn't win You didn't win. It's like she pours dude pours that's like what that poison is this? Oh, it's one that really won't be that bad Awesome. Yeah. Yeah. No, just like it's like, well, yeah, will it hurt? Will it be will there be suffering? I don't want to go like pour as fucking whatever I didn't do by the way. Yeah, and wait. I totally did it. No. No no suffering
Starting point is 03:51:23 And she fucking chugs that shit like a shot like she licks the lime and pours the salt You see jamie like Like fucking body shots that shit And he was like At the end of it So good, man. No, lady tyrell is the ultimate winner for life. It's over. I miss Her her like okay, so varus and little finger talking is like the best shit ever Second best shit is her talking to tywin
Starting point is 03:51:58 Anytime those were good conversations because she doesn't fucking put up with his bullshit And he doesn't put up with anyone else's bullshit. That's a complete like stalemate. It's like just it just beams hitting each other Yeah, yeah, yeah the unmovable object of the unstoppable forest, you know Old people are can't can't anchor us so good Um The what I was going to say though is when a winterian Goes in to the room and then like has that moment and then it just cuts out of the conversation So you don't know what he said. Yeah, exactly
Starting point is 03:52:29 Right, he just shows up with her and then he's walking out and they're like, oh my god. He made it and he's just he looks his face Is like Yeah, all right You're and I was sitting there and I was talking about it with my girlfriend and we were trying to figure out like Okay, how did that conversation go? Right and chances are He literally just said Look, I'm not even going to try to make you a deal here
Starting point is 03:52:52 Just say you agree. Yeah. Yeah, and then that's I could totally see that Do whatever you want. Just say you agree to them now lie through your teeth And then betray us later because the whole honor bound thing of them coming here. Yeah, they need that win Right, this need this needs to work for the whole saving westeros thing And then they can expect you to betray later. Whatever and Tyrion either thinks well They're gonna go and they're gonna get that boost from like, yeah, it's gonna we're gonna fucking do it At least for now and he's like if we win awesome without her help But if we lose then she'll be like, well
Starting point is 03:53:31 Yeah, I I'm she's either gonna die anyway. We delay the inevitable Ultimately and they can just go like, oh fuck her. She's our enemy, right? But just he's I think he smartly said just lie I'm not offering you any ultimatums. I'm not offering you any sort of choices I'm telling you to just do what you want. But please just lie, you know I also remember when when we're talking about john doing stupid things and he's like, well, you know, I'm your queen So john you better, you know, I'll help you and but you gotta, you know, be my ward in the north and he's like, no Sorry, I pledged myself to this young lady over here And then to the nurse like I think when after seriously these nurses, I mean like
Starting point is 03:54:10 I'm really wet But that was fucking stupid. Yeah I really appreciate it because I really wanted you to bend the knee And you basically in front of Like everything you did this, but it was super fucking stupid. Yeah, and he's like and john's like, yeah Like make no mistake john snow. You can get it. You can get it. Whatever you want. However, you want a little tired You can see it's fine. But but that being said that was beyond idiotic. I lost a dragon But yeah, yeah, yeah
Starting point is 03:54:46 No, and and it's all about the whole like don't make the same mistakes ned did, you know, and it's like he's Skirting close he's getting real Skirting close I guess the one other thing is just that like, um, something that was pointed out is his name is, um, um Uh agon Targaryen That is the badass super important conqueror of all Big dick og name that you can give a Targaryen agon was the fucking dude with his sister wives And his three dragons, but is that the he's the guy that took ancient Targaryen? Yes, okay
Starting point is 03:55:23 It's not the mad king. No, no, no. What's the mad king's name? The mad king's name is, uh, uh, I forget but it's it has it has a why in it. But john's dad is rey garre rey garre is john's dad That's the mad king's son that took ned stark's sister. Exactly. Okay, exactly and and um, I forget the the the mad king's name, but it's another thing. What anyway They end up, uh, the agon is the fucking name of the conqueror who comes over and like, you know, just like he You're my favorite line that you've ever done is just like everyone quits Everyone quits the king who knelt all that shit and the melting of castles Who was all with fucking a uh, uh agon, right? And then for most importantly the iron fucking throne
Starting point is 03:56:10 Yeah, smelted together with dragon fire. It was agon. You know, okay, okay, and then which of course one of the best moments is just, uh, Uh A good time, uh, Varys Going like thousands of blades of the enemy of the Targaryen enemies smelt it together into one throne And like uh little fingers like it's hardly thousands way less than that. I've counted And you're like god damn these characters, you know, he stared at that shit so long Specifically this season that I remember there's some standout lines I'm like that's a good line where I felt like I hadn't heard a good line
Starting point is 03:56:50 Like something that's a little memorable and like at least the last Two seasons were I thought it looks fine. It's good. But I'm like there's a couple lines. I'm like, oh, that's money That's fucking money line or whatever like And any like, you know when um, how do you how do you uh, uh, how do you plead to these charges? Little fingers. Yeah, little things like that where I'm like There was another there's a call a couple of solid one-liners. Um And of course you have your moment your your like game of thrones always does a thing where the last episode
Starting point is 03:57:20 That's a big shocker. They give you a massive hint in the second to last episode Second to last, right? Yeah, and in this case it was when the dragon comes down and is like Yo Yo, john You smell kind of cool. What up? Yes, and john's like Is this happening right now? It's weird because Daenerys and no one else really talks about it that much No, no, no, she just makes a look at him like oh, that's cool. Yeah. Well, that's well That's the face you make when you're holding back the juice
Starting point is 03:57:47 Yeah, you don't want to run. You don't want to run the fucking move her damn trying to hold bet You can't spill all over your dragon, man That's all we have to say about Daenerys because listen. This is all she wants Everyone wants Daenerys to have sex. That's the thing and Daenerys wants Daenerys to have sex It's been a long time since what's his fucking name? Yeah, you know And me since derio and in the meantime, you know, who's getting it who's getting it good The dude with no balls is getting it. God damn gray worm gets to hook up with the hottest chick in the world So i'm not sure you know this that chick is in um
Starting point is 03:58:23 All like the last couple of Fast and the Furious movies as like a hacker girl. Oh, cool She's the exact same character like she speaks the same way and she's just like this cool hacker girl And everyone in Fast and the Furious wants to also have sex with her Everyone's I think it's uh tyrese and um And uh ludicrous. Yeah, they're all like. Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to impress you. It's just like you're both lame. Yeah No, that seems correct. She is like fucking ridiculously perfect. Yeah baffling
Starting point is 03:58:53 But uh, yeah, no the the the thing with agon is that that's the name That regar already named another one of his kids that died to the to the fucking The mountain right the mountain so the so regar had to had a daughter and he had a son and then there's his wife who was the um, the martel the uh, yeah, no the martel yeah, right and um One of those so it's also when the mountain came into the the castle Well, yeah, yeah, yeah Like and he killed and he raped and he pillaged and he fucking wrecked everybody
Starting point is 03:59:29 And like and like one of the babies were that he bashed against the wall or whatever the fuck Was totally agon Targaryen, right, right? So like it was a bit odd that they're like, oh, we'll just use the name again because it seems like in the books That's not the name they went with at all. Um But I but it sounds like only when you ascend to the throne do you get like the number That says like agon the seventh, you know, or whatever Yeah, uh
Starting point is 03:59:56 But that but either way it's I still think it's cool because it's the most important name you could get For being that lineage, you know And and also the whole thing about hinting in the last of the episode before the end is jillie reading the book Going it says here that the marriage was a no no shut up. I'm complaining about cleaning the toilets so like like I I always hated sam sam super annoying. He never gets thin regardless of where he is. Nope. Nope. Um, he's just Doesn't really ever do anything And I think now is the time where i'm like, okay where he is now is fine
Starting point is 04:00:35 But then he just left so he's gonna be left the um the the meisters whatever The citadel the citadel and he's gonna be doing more shit again or trying to do it whatever But I felt like I'd rather him stay here And pluck important information And and send ravens. Yeah But because i'm so sick of his bumbling like yeah, he's got he's got a bumble king to winterfell man I guess so it's fine. It's like I don't hate the guy, but it's just like he's gotten a lot better He has gotten better. He has gotten better and his important job now is like
Starting point is 04:01:09 Going yo dragon glass. I know about this shit. I know about that Yeah, and he tried his best to convince the all the the meisters when he scraped all the scales off It's like one did a good job one shitty character. I didn't care about scraping the scales off of another shitty character I didn't care about but in the end, you know like more months. I hate jorah I don't love him. I love jorah fucking more. He's the saddest most fucking my lady And she's like get the fuck away from me. Okay, wait Uh, you're not bad. No wait get away from me. No, okay. You're gonna die. All right. Well later too bad And then he makes his way back going
Starting point is 04:01:51 You saw that they set up some stuff where he notices that she's making Yes, and he does the looks I did I did uh, I fucking hate jorah so much though Okay, you like the other version of jorah, which kind of always forget his name the guy that's with John Uh god the guy that helps stannis got the beard. Um the onion night. Yes. Yeah. Yeah Sir sir sir davos of bravos. Yeah, that's the guy where it's like more months is old dude. It's kind of like Has his tricks, but he's able to like he's stupid But he also talks his way out like he's street smart, but he's not exactly and he's always like i'm not very smart
Starting point is 04:02:33 And here's the thing jorah was hanging around early being a shitty fucking like like to you like he's he's a He's just betaing around the place right as it were trying to beta around. He's betaing around. That's what he's doing Right, and then he's hanging out like being like the fucking friendzone guy And then uh, what you call it dario shows up right especially first version dario and drops a head down and goes what up And she's like, yeah, right? Yeah, and that's not bad, you know And then they hook up and then fucking old dude that was used to be um king's guard
Starting point is 04:03:09 Yeah, yeah gets sent over and you're like, oh you're like way You're not even like because like jorah's like you're you're in that age where it's like dinners Dinners would never fucking give you the time of day, right? You're too old and weird this guy's way older But he's so much fucking cooler and he's just like no i'm about my code and my my bullshit You know and he goes out like a boss and you're like this guy's fucking doing it in the short time that he showed up What have you been doing? Oh, I got fucking scales Let me say this would you agree with this like Get it give jorah a little a little bit of slack by just saying jorah
Starting point is 04:03:44 Had a hard life the best part of jorah mormon is the balls he came out of Fair enough I I just because fucking old old master mormon at the fucking night's watch was a real true g But what what I mean is I like I Because he doesn't get in anyone's face like he doesn't complain about like he just loving dinners from afar And doesn't really do shitty things that add to show his Upsetness it's obsession. I know and that's never healthy. I know but he doesn't like he doesn't do the thing that makes Then me get really angry at a character when he actually does shitty things or does stupid things that jeopardizes everything else for his
Starting point is 04:04:22 He's just like yeah, it's not gonna happen But I'll just be in my corner Like until he does that I'm like fine with him Like but if when he does something it does endanger the crew endanger someone because of his his obsession with Daenerys then I'm like fine, but until he does that like I'm I'm okay with him She gave more play to the richest man in cough He did right who was gonna fucking do nothing. That's true I uh going going back to the grade row is really quick because I didn't want to let it like
Starting point is 04:04:52 Theon is like actually one of the more interesting characters because he's done some of the most despicable shit But he's gone through some of the most despicable shit. Yes. Yes. He has and the last thing like he's going to die The attempt to save his sister for sure But if he saves his sister Theon you're you you redeemed someone. You're at a like a fair now Because also the fact that john still thinks you're a piece of shit is that's amazing. That's awesome. John thinks you're Yeah, that makes that makes it John for John John thinks more of sursey than he does of theon
Starting point is 04:05:29 That's so that's super because he's like oh my father raised you you fucking turd, you know and is like yeah But he's like but what am I gonna do also You got to it's you got to say like in this whole like feeling good feeling bad for the same person thing Sam's fucking dad Is like when he goes that guy's awesome So you go back to his house and he's like the mom's like, oh would you like more bread? I'm not fat enough are you? You know like super shitty to sam the whole time
Starting point is 04:06:00 And then he showed then he showed turns up for war and he's like way honorable And it's just like a real a real g You know and like and his his son is like basically like okay I it's my job to oh it's a fucking what is it dick on dick on his son His job is to be the next No, don't fucking come up here and die with me idiots And honor is honor and that's it. I really like those early conversations What are they gonna tell sam that she fucking barbecued his family?
Starting point is 04:06:29 And furthermore, well, he's not with anybody yet. Will he be that bothered by it? I don't think he'd be that probably his brother. He talks maybe be talk shit about his dad too He doesn't like his dad that much, but but but I really like those really conversations where um terrians like All right, you really shouldn't have burned the last of that entire family Because people don't like that around here. It's just like I gave him a choice You gave him a choice that he would never ever pick Yeah, and then you burned him and his and his only son that refer to whatever Yeah, his only son or whatever that was there at the time you burnt them to really looks burned
Starting point is 04:07:09 Yeah, and then it just kind of is fine. That wasn't like one of the earlier episodes And then I just and then the whole tension of terrians like she's not listening to me It went into nothing. Well, it totally went into something it went into when they go north And yeah, they're sitting on that fucking ice block and you're like, what else could possibly happen We're gonna get the jesus shot, but I was like the jesus shot is coming But I at first say when they're stuck in the ice Oh, what it's gonna take too long I'm like it can't possibly be them because there was one cut away to another conversation
Starting point is 04:07:43 fast travel unlocked mother fucker, but not from kings not from Dragon stone to fucking the wall a beyond the fucking wall Gendry sprinted that shit And a half afternoon those were the only two Things that bothered me. No, there's three things that bothered me for the fast travel unlock That was how generous got there so fast how gendry ran there so fast and the other one was The amount of time
Starting point is 04:08:13 They survived against all of the white walkers on the like when the white walkers were like Who is the fucking idiot that threw stones wasn't the house course. It was the hounds The fact that they survived that long. It's like either Scale back the amount of white walkers in that scene if you're gonna have a scene where they all get overrun Or don't have a motherfucker throw stones Like that that was the only things where i'm like all the other fast travel. I'm like, it's fine We're dead with these long boring conversation not even boring But like these long conversations where everything is just just going along at a snail's pace
Starting point is 04:08:50 And the the conversations and dialogue are good, but i'm like those are fine cut them out. We need to get moving There's only this many episodes left in the season the next one's the last one as far as we know Those are fine, but those are the three things. I'm like, ah This makes the scene slightly worse, but whatever like how sick was it though? Like when the dragon fell in the water like and you just see the cuts to the chains On the zombies pulling the chains after a second and a half of the chains when I go Yeah Huh and then she gives it another two seconds. She's like
Starting point is 04:09:28 Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that's the best part about like again being ahead of the books at this point is just like You can't call shit like an undead ice dragon coming And uh fucking good man white white wait not blue eyes white drag. Yeah, no, it's blue eyes white dragon. Yeah So I was I was saying another dragon variant. There's like no, it's not that it's blue eyes. Oh, it's right. Oh, shit. You're right Yeah, um, yeah, that's some of the cooler stuff and i'm like glad it got one final shot in the last episode But like it breathes blue flip. What's it breathing now? What is it breathing? Come on. It's not fire It can't be fire. It's fire hurts. Well, it's ice fire. Yeah, shut up with your face. It's this fucking Final fantasy magic fire. I guess I guess it's just magic breath and it destroys the wall in one shot
Starting point is 04:10:16 I felt it almost had too much destruction. Yeah Uh, I one of one of the dude one of the best lines was just fucking uh, uh the hound being like To terry and he's like there's always a lannister cunt carrot giving out all the orders And and terry is like and there's always a there's always a clagain cut to help carry them out like Roasted Got him
Starting point is 04:10:43 but As weird as the small logistical problems and as weird as like You can clearly see the forcing of things to happen the forcing of groups not that it was done poorly But you could tell that someone's like we got it We got a like this is like the best season like the last three or something not that they're bad But they were they felt like they were just grinding their wheels and it just wasn't really moving Where you wanted to because you want like fucking get there's no time left. We have to meet john get these things happening Right. Yeah. No, there was no time left. They had to rush it all
Starting point is 04:11:18 We got it like like all right. Let's go on the clock prince. That was promise Gotta get gotta get happening and you're just like it's like count down to john and danie booty You know count down to the penis, right? Everyone like everyone in westeros is like Prince that was promise any minute now Uh Now man next season is gonna be fucking crazy like they're gonna wrap it's gonna be like similarly like it's gonna wrap up Shorter and I bet you it's gonna be like it's gonna be yeah, because it's seven plus eight nine 10 11 12 13 so six um
Starting point is 04:11:54 And I and it's gonna be I'm guessing Straight up war. Yeah, straight up war. But do you think they're gonna deal with the sursy threat? during before or after uh Or like there's a false alarm. I think it's gonna be like, you know, just just a gasoline. I think it's to be like Leading up to like the last battle or something like something's gonna happen So Like during but like towards the end of the war like see she's gonna do something or I think
Starting point is 04:12:24 I think that we're gonna jay me leaving her. Yeah to go help is like Devastating. Oh, of course. I think we're gonna see the prophecy fulfilled and that we're gonna see jay me snuff her the fuck out She's gonna do something to jay me's too good and pure for this of course Pushing those children out of those windows Yeah, well and pushing other things into other things Yeah, no too pure too pure. I love that actor You should see him in the motion picture gods of egypt. He's amazing. Yeah about that and I'll get back to that
Starting point is 04:12:59 Yeah, please do but no, I think he's gonna I think he's gonna uh Child pushers too pure I think he's going less protect him protect my push Uh, I see support. Yo kimari's a big fan Yeah, I feel I feel like we're gonna see him take her out After all is said and done and like the her army is gonna kind of just do the whole like, you know, they're quick Okay, so you know the bullshit thing in in sci-fi where it's like you kill the leader and then all the skeletons just go And you're like, fuck that's how they're gonna do it
Starting point is 04:13:31 Right one wants to follow sir see or fight millions of dudes. Yeah, so they're just gonna watch the guys just She's gonna get it and then everyone's gonna go. Well All right, I guess we're done You know if the dragons don't make them shit themselves already and I feel like that's gonna happen in a really like Mixed in the middle of the real war kind of thing Because I doubt they're gonna take out the night king and go great. We've saved mankind now for that throne You know, I think it's gonna be like saving the mankind is the final thing And then taking the throne after it is just gonna be the obvious choice because she won't be there to to to claim it
Starting point is 04:14:08 So she's either gonna a die alone like in a dungeon There's a prophecy that says jamie's gonna kill her. Oh, okay. I didn't know that the prophecy Well, the prophecy said that your brother would would get you and that your kids are all gonna die And her kids all died and then her brother She thought he meant tirion But tirion doesn't want to fucking kill her. He's he's he wouldn't be sad if she's dead But he's clearly made his peace in that sense, right? So the whole thing with the prophecy being like, oh your brother's gonna get you
Starting point is 04:14:35 She assumed it was the one that was the ugly guy that killed her mom It'd be amazing if tirion does want to kill her and he just jumps into her room in the crossbow And she's also on the shitter And tirion's like, wow, this is amazing Combo This is great Just getting all my brothers and sisters and family on the shitter I don't she should get killed by a dragon or like a white walker. So imagine sir. See white walker. No, that's not gonna happen
Starting point is 04:15:01 No, no, it's too. It's too cool You should shoot her with the crossbow on the toilet and then jamey's like, oh you get back here And he doesn't really follow him that fast Betty Hill music He got away. He's too fast. Can't stop him. Tyrion's real fast It's hard to catch up to him All right, I think we're done. I think we're good. That was fun. That was a good one Um, so I think the next season is actually supposed to be even longer away
Starting point is 04:15:32 I think they're they're only started they shot them at the same time I heard I thought it was I thought it was the actual opposite that they're only going to start shooting the next season next october Well, the answer is a google search away, and I guess we'll never know I guess we'll never know Goodbye everybody. Bye everybody

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