Castle Super Beast - SBFC 216: Magic Hobo Meat

Episode Date: September 26, 2017

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Starting point is 00:00:44 How's it going Pat? I'm going pretty good. All right. Except that, except my own Red Bull right here. I can sit in my Red Bull. Oh, that's a delicious Red Bull. Tell you what. All right.
Starting point is 00:00:55 Hey, hey, hey. What's up? So, yeah, Matt's currently up in a cabin feasting on Liam's flesh. Alternatively, being killed by bugs, you can, you can, you can pick your side story. No, I think there's been photos of Matt and Liam hanging out with- There's the creepy one of him like creeping on Liam in the kitchen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That he just put up.
Starting point is 00:01:15 He put up his corpse after he feasted on it to make it look like Liam was cooking or something. Oh, that's what you're going with. You know, but- I thought you, okay, never mind. I thought you meant something different. Yeah. Cabin flesh devoured.
Starting point is 00:01:26 Oh, yeah. Oh, you're doing that thing? Okay. That's, I mean, that's he's doing it. He's doing that thing. You know. It had to go there. Take people up to a cabin of woods.
Starting point is 00:01:34 What are you going to do now? What are you going to do? Not murder them? Not, like, you know, devour the flesh? Like, come on. I mean, no one, like, I, like, I've been in kind of areas like that up in the Adirondas. Like, he's fucking nobody around, man. Do whatever.
Starting point is 00:01:49 I mean, that, well, that's why people buy cabins up north. Yeah. For crimes. Yeah. I mean, it's an investment. In crime. But I mean, you, like, there's a point in your life in which you have to be like, okay, what are the crimes I realistically want to commit?
Starting point is 00:02:06 What's left? On a, on a, on a, not like, because there's the bucket list crimes. And then there's like, I want to do this crime kind of semi-regularly. Like, so some people go, I want to steal. So they commit shoplifting at petty places where no one will arrest them. And other people are like, I want to feast on human flesh. And I mean, that's an investment. There's no way.
Starting point is 00:02:28 You can't just casually. No, no, no. If you suddenly realize that you need the taste of flesh, is this something I want to get into? Yeah. Then, yeah. I mean, there's entire stories like Hannibal about this kind of thing. But it's like, you suddenly need to be like, okay.
Starting point is 00:02:43 So you make a decision. No. If I'm going to get busted, it's going to be a holy shit. They found the mountain of bones. Because there's no other way around it. This is a problem. You want to solve it by cabinet in the woods. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:57 And then what you do is you rent a bus, right? And you call the, and you put the bus tour guide to the drunk factory. And then you sweep up the homeless who want a beer. And then you bring it all to the cabinet of the woods. And the authorities won't mind. Clean up the city. Yeah. And nobody will mind.
Starting point is 00:03:20 But you might not be happy with homeless flesh. The quality of the meats a little bit leathery. I mean, you might find delicious new flavors that you wouldn't expect. That guy with the thing growing out of his stomach that we talked about. There might even be some side effects. I mean, you know how you might get high, you know, magic brownies. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:45 You don't know what's in there. Magic hobo meat. Yeah. That's a thing. It's a thing. All right. It's a thing, everybody. I mean, I wouldn't know.
Starting point is 00:03:54 I don't have a cabin. No. But Matt would. Yeah. So we should find out what's what's going on. There's also. Man, that'd be awkward, man. Like one of us turned out to be like a horrible cannibal murderer.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Would it be awkward? Yeah. Well, okay. It'd be awkward if it was you or Matt, but like it would be a little less awkward if it were me because I feel like I feel like I fit that profile pretty well already. I mean, besides the lore implications, I think the podcast after whichever one of us gets arrested gets arrested is a legendary podcast. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:30 I think especially if they get bail. Hey, so I don't want to talk about the recent drama with the crimes that I made. May or may not have committed innocent forever. Yeah. He had me that that that baby. Yeah. What's going on in your week? Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Robert Durst. Oh, man. Um, yeah. So, so, so, so fucked up trimming my beard, dude. Did you? Yeah. Is it uneven? No.
Starting point is 00:05:01 The problem. Well, okay. I fucked up trimming my mustache. So there's this thing that happens. I probably doesn't do this because my, my beard grows, like my mustache grows in straight. Right. But you let it grow super long. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Yeah. Too long. Yeah. But you like the look of the mustache hiding your mouth. Yeah. Right. Well, I trimmed my face this, this weekend. Sure.
Starting point is 00:05:21 But so like you get to this problem where it's like there's certain foods that like every time you, you put a bite in, like you're getting a, you're getting like a taste of mustache because like it's so long that it pushes in your, in your, in your face. Yeah. And that's not, that's bad. That sucks. Yes. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:40 So you work around it, but then you hit the day where like you ate an ice cream or something and it's just a fucking disaster. So you, you trim it. Right. The problem is if you miss like a single hair, that hair is now just going to find its way in your mouth every two seconds. Oh, yep. And I got like, cause I,
Starting point is 00:05:54 You're describing a feeling that I, Cause you got to get the, the, the corner of the, the lip. Right. See if I do this, like it can go, it can get right in there. Oh yeah. So if I happen to be like doing this and then all of a sudden like, Yeah. It's terrible.
Starting point is 00:06:06 I got to redo this. No, that's, that's, that's the exact reason that's why I, I trimmed up. I mean, the moment you feel that once you're like, The danger is that if you get rid of this part, the, the, the corner of the corner, like then if you fuck up, you can get like a hole where the bridge of the mustache would meet the beard. And then you look like a jackass. You're going to shave the whole fucking thing.
Starting point is 00:06:24 That's, I basically, that's what I did. Yeah. I just got rid of the sides because there was that weird thing getting in the corner of my mouth. This is a lot of hair in your mouth. Yeah. Like when you got a beard and a mustache. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:36 You just got to live with it. Yeah. You do. And I mean, I, I don't know. I, I, I'm torn because personally I usually prefer to just be clean with like one little go teeth thing. Yeah. Um, but I want to cover this up.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Yeah. This part, the chin part. Yeah. I don't have a very strong chin, but now with the big beard, it looks like I have a giant mega chin made out of hair. I have that thing where it's like, like the girl likes it being all full bearded out. And I'm like, yeah, I don't mind it, but I prefer the like, like, like tricking myself into feeling younger version of my face.
Starting point is 00:07:12 I've never, I've never felt like that ever. And in fact, I mean, the last time you saw me completely clean shaven, like it's weird. I look weird. Yeah. It's like that person that you knew in high school that wore glasses every single fucking day of their life that you ever saw them. Yeah. And then you met them a couple of years later in college or work or something and they got
Starting point is 00:07:31 contacts and you're like, yeah. You know, you, you, you have to reverse shave where you, you need to remove more off the top and have more on the bottom for your head to work out. Well, I mean, I'm finding, you know, when, when the beard's a little scraggly, I find hair other places that I can use. There you go. Getting a little bit of like color patches inside there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:53 It's twisty. It works. Yeah. You can throw it right in there. Beards are horrible. Did you know? What's the, what's the largest item you've found in your facial hair? Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Come on. That, that doesn't happen. Yeah. That doesn't happen. Yeah, that happens. That has, that has not happened. Yeah. No, that's crazy.
Starting point is 00:08:11 You found like a crayon in there. You're out of your mind. Did you know, however, that you can get advanced, like beyond hair transplants, you can now get individual hair follicles, like inserted into holes in your head that are like mapped out. Isn't that just hair plugs? It's not a hair plug because it's individual follicles. That sounds, they, they insert individual hair strands.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Cause the recovery process on that is hideous. Well you wear a bandana for like 10 months. Yeah. But I mean like you've seen what it looks like a few days afterwards. Like it, it scabs. Well you, it's covered up. It was over. It's, it's hideous.
Starting point is 00:08:51 It's covered up and you just have to let your hair, like your head bleed out for whatever however many months and then apparently it takes, but I don't know, man, like my body has decided to reject what's going on up at the top of the head. The precipice. They don't like it. And I feel like if I, I would spend all that money and put some hair back in there and then it's like, congrats, you've delayed it by two years or something. And then I'm still short.
Starting point is 00:09:20 I mean, nothing's going to fix that shit. You can always do the old, uh, break your bones and pull you apart thing. I got to say though, the baldness and the short create like a, like a fucking, it's like a, it's like fucking die hard where you mix the two chemicals and it creates an explosion. Because you know this, cause you, you stand above me and you look down and you get a good look. It shines. And what's going on up here.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Very big shiner. Very. Um. Big, big shiner. Big shiner. Um. Yeah. But yeah, no, everyone's taller than you and they look down and they see all the glorious
Starting point is 00:09:59 scalp skin. If I was, if I was your height, baldness would be a, a, a trivial concern, but I'm so far from bald. Yeah. Oh no, you have the opposite thing. I'm so incredibly far from bald. No one's very few people are tall enough to appreciate like the thick head of hair you got on the top of your head and how you have no fear of baldness.
Starting point is 00:10:19 You can always go the Pacino route and get some lifts, lifts, I don't think there's, I don't think there's lifts that I could wear that wouldn't qualify as stilts to get where I need to go. I am like a like six inches. Okay. Hold on. How greedy are you? Like I want to be tall.
Starting point is 00:10:41 I was going to say like, if I'm going to give you a couple inches off the fucking dollar, if I'm going to take nefarious means to improve my parents in some way, I'm going to go to the max. You won't accept. You won't accept a slight realistic boost. No, I'm the kind of person if I'm going to get lifts, I'm going to be taller than the tall people I know. If I'm going to get lipo, I want to be a fucking skeleton by the end of that.
Starting point is 00:11:10 Then you might as well wear a wig. Yeah. If you're committing to every part of this bit to the extreme, then full on wig is the way to go. It's a really bad toupee. Yeah. Oh man, if I was like 40 years older, would I be the guy to wear a toupee? I mean, I mean, not you can go to toupee or you can go full on fucking asbestos old school.
Starting point is 00:11:38 I think Henry the whatever, like giant wig, which with the rolls and shit, all that stuff, which is crazy. I found out that like that whole thing came from the idea of it was like on a Rogan podcast or talking about how like the whole thing with the wigs, especially those types back then as a being bald meant you were super poor, right? It was a sign of poverty and low class, right? The idea was that like it just that you if like having no hair was just it was just not it was bad form.
Starting point is 00:12:13 It's a faux pas, right? And so the first thing and so when the the king was like, OK, well, fuck this, I'm going bald and I have male pattern balding, you know, then he's like, OK, I'm going to get my wig and like then him and I think like immediate members of the royal family that like took after him, then created the trend of like if the king's doing it, then it's super cool and fancy to do it. And then like all these things came from high society, having wigs, including like, OK, getting your way to the path, getting your wig washed was like a super hard, rough thing
Starting point is 00:12:44 to do. Oh, yeah. And like, like they'd have to actually like send it to like a wig, like person to split the hairs. And it was one of the hardest jobs in the world where the term splitting hairs comes from, right? And then the more pompous and more fancy and illustrious your wig was generally the higher society you were, hence the term big wigs.
Starting point is 00:13:03 And like all these little idioms and things that I thought, yeah, come from the fact that hiding your balding was the way to go. I saw that you were I solved it. I solved it. I solved the problem. All right. All of my hair and shortness and body issues. I'm just going to wear a full suit that will cover every part of my body, including my
Starting point is 00:13:28 face and head. And it will be of a loony tunes or other childhood animalized character that I like that has human proportions. Oh, shit. I think that this might be a new thing that I can use to help others like me like some sort of anthropomorphic, yes, some kind of an animal, some kind of hide suit, what like like a hairy suit. Yeah, like a hairy suit.
Starting point is 00:13:59 Hairy suit. Yes. Yeah. A hair suit. You'd be a hair suit sounds like the like the grossest thing in the world. It sounds like a suit made of cousin it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That'd be fun.
Starting point is 00:14:11 That'd be fun. You could go all the kids would like love you suddenly. I got it real bad this week, man, with this with this specific topic because I went pants shopping only to discover, OK, let's be real with Pat, Pat's looking at himself in the mirror is like Pat, you're not fitting in any of these fucking clothes. Length wise or circumference wise, well, OK, let's break it down. Let's get real here. All right.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Because those are two different measurements. So Patrick, little Patrick needs pants, the history, right? Hey, Pat, I would like those pants. All right, I'll try them on and see if they fit. Well, they fit around the waist. But I look like a child walking around in his dad's clothing because the legs are often so long. You got to have them.
Starting point is 00:15:04 You got to have them up. You got to have them up. OK, I want a very clear image for people here. I'm a short guy. I'm 5'2". Right? However, well, could you sit up straight just for, just, OK, now you're sitting in a lower chair than I am.
Starting point is 00:15:18 You're a couple inches lower, right? Sure. Also, heights are not dramatically different. Yeah. So what does that mean? That means that all of this is all leg. Yeah. It's all baby shit leg.
Starting point is 00:15:32 So when I put on pants that are for, like, what are apparently a six foot tall guy, there is like a straight foot going past it. It goes past my foot. It goes drags on the floor. There are like six inches of post big toe fucking pants, OK? It makes trying on clothes really embarrassing because you come out and you're waddling around in fucking big pants. It's a fuck in the knees.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Yeah. The knees are actually fine. It appears to be all the knee to the ankle is just like horribly misshapen. So I ended up having to go to a tailor and like a fucking proper, like go to a big and tall store. Not because I'm tall. No. So the issue is the circumference.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Yep. Yep. This job, would you believe it, is not great for personal fitness. Hmm. Would I believe it? Yeah. I would. So I would making strides trying to do what we can.
Starting point is 00:16:37 There's something about like an old man, you know, the old man, like the guy who measures your pants. Yeah. Yeah. Just like kind of giving it a little, not high roll, but it's like, oh no, I'm short too. It's like, no, shut up. Don't.
Starting point is 00:16:51 Yeah. Don't. Yeah. No. Don't try and make me feel better. It's just going to be. Yeah. Oh man.
Starting point is 00:16:59 I hear you. Um, health wise, I'm currently in ketosis. That's when you're on the ketogenic diet. Oh my God. You are that asshole. Yeah. Oh man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:14 So I'm eating all the bacon and I'm eating all the fat. I don't think that's a, it's real. Yeah. But it's real. You have to. People do it. Yeah. And to be fair, like within, it had really amazing results really quickly.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Yeah. And then you have to kind of keep it up with your like sort of, you know, just carb management and stuff. Don't have a heart attack. No, no, no. It's, it's, uh, you can do a lot of reading about it. Girlfriend help you go on that? Not necessarily.
Starting point is 00:17:44 No, you just, you kind of figured it out yourself. I'm trying to myself. It's, uh, again, you can do a lot of research on it. Yeah. The info's out there. I'm seeing how this goes. It's, uh, it's interesting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:55 You got to fucking chug water. You got to chug. The problem is the thing, the things that I like to drink are anti-water, like red bowls. Yeah. I know what you mean. It's like, it's, oh yeah. I need to take a piss.
Starting point is 00:18:07 It's, it's interesting though. Cause I mean, in my case, I like, I've already like removed sugar entirely from my diet. So it's pretty easy. Yeah. Cause you're at risk, at risk for the diabetes. I mean, yeah. Well, that, that was a long time ago. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:18 I'm now, my, my blood sugar is way, way down and fine. But if you cut out the sugar, why not fuck, just keep it up. Yeah. Exactly. So I've already had that. So for me, it was like, okay, stop eating bread and crackers sometimes. And I was like, I can do that. You know?
Starting point is 00:18:30 So it was, it was actually pretty close to what I was already doing. I don't like this hatred of bread, um, by the world bread's a wholesome food. Yeah. Yeah. It is. I never did nothing to nobody. It is. I never, like doing like the bacon experiment or this dude, like eight bacon for an entire
Starting point is 00:18:48 month and nothing, but that's, and it's like, that makes me feel sick. I know. I know. I know. And he ate, he ate like back fat bacon and like regular bacon for an entire month. And like, like, it was nuts. How like it, it not only worked out, but in the end he like, he was feeling better, lost more, all this crazy shit, all these positive results because your body basically goes like,
Starting point is 00:19:10 oh, you have that much cholesterol going on. Well, then I'm not going to produce much more. Yeah. Than what you're inputting. It's like, I remember how like certain types of diet soda are actually good for, for sugar, um, for, for cutting sugar out because they fake sugar, but they're not actually adding sugar. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:28 So your body will produce more insulin to combat sugar that isn't there, thus bringing your sugar down. And then the main, the main downside that everyone always quotes is the fact that it makes you want to drink more of it. Yeah. And then your sodium goes up. But ultimately it's like, if you can, if you can control that, this conversation just makes me want to do a bunch of drugs.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Yeah. I mean, that's like, that's the super easy way like to just fucking, it's like, I just, I just want to go to that guy that my friend knows. You know that guy? Mm hmm. Yeah. He's a different guy for everybody. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Yeah. And just like, just do all the drugs until my problems go away. All the smoking ones. Definitely. I can't thin yourself out. I can't. You know. Smoking things.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Can't do it. It's the best way to thin yourself out. The pain smoking parents, both of them. Now we though, that makes you hungry. So like the, like the smell of smoke of any kind is just like completely repulsive to me. Can't do it. And I have a horrifying crippling fear of veins.
Starting point is 00:20:24 So that's how. That's true too. So now I'm down to the snorters. Yeah, you can do that. You can do that. And I, and I mean, there's, you know, there's, there's different, there's, people are getting creative with it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:38 People are getting creative with it. I mean, eyedroppers and asshole inserts. I mean, at this point. You know what? I'm going to, you know what? If I had a choice between those two, I'm going to go with the eyedroppers. Hmm. I know it doesn't work quite as fast, but, you know, you know what you should try?
Starting point is 00:20:53 You should try some of that moon rock. Moon rock? Yeah. Sun rock or moon rock? Moon rock. Yeah. Okay. What is moon rock?
Starting point is 00:21:02 That is the type of weed that is so powerful that Snoop Dogg is afraid of it. Oh man. And he's on video going, I'm scared of this shit. Smoked it. He, I don't know if he has. I think he, I think he was explaining how it's like, it's so insanely strong as weed and like beyond anything that you have to cut it with other normal weed to just make it remotely.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Moon rock reminds me, what are you doing? Do you remember that? That I don't know what you'd call it for or like kerfuffle around salvia when salvia was, I don't want to say discovered, but rediscovered by popular culture and because it was completely unregulated, it was like a bunch of, bunch of stupid kids in the suburbs going, oh man, I can't get weed, but I'll smoke all this salvia. And then it's like, I don't know what happened. I blacked out, wrecked my house and crashed my car.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Woo. Like no. Don't. Yeah. The stuff where people discover it really early on where they're like, you can just go to a pharmacy and grab this shit. Yeah. Nobody knows what this shit is.
Starting point is 00:22:02 And nobody knows yet. Yeah. DMT was like another one of those things where it's exactly like. That's the dream chemical, right? That's the 10 minutes of every emotion. Like all sliders of emotions get slid to the maximum and geometric shapes and oh, the presence is benevolent. Yes.
Starting point is 00:22:18 Yes. Yes. And then 10 minutes later, you're back to normal, but it feels like hours, if not days, I don't know, man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, maybe I shouldn't do the drugs.
Starting point is 00:22:29 I'm starting to lose my, I'm starting to lose my when, when excitement, you know, man, Snoop Dogg is telling you perhaps to consider not doing it when you've invented a weed strong enough to surpass Snoop Dogg. Oh, no. It's like, I've taken a lot of time to get to a place where I'm normal chemically. And now I'm like, okay, I'm going to fuck with that with this. Yeah. Like that seems like a bad idea.
Starting point is 00:22:55 That seems not great. And the fun part is about how it's always like, it's not even the thing you're putting into you. Yeah. How do you then makes your body react in a way that like the high comes from you, not from the thing you're putting in basically. It's a chain reaction of events. Well, I mean, that's, that's kind of potato potato.
Starting point is 00:23:14 That's like whether like heroin binds to certain receptors perfectly and that's nice, but the difference between that and it turns on a thing in your brain instead, like you eat the thing. It makes you crazy. Yeah. Yeah. I worry that if I ever get like horribly injured, like, like bad, that they're going to give me a bunch of morphine and it's not going to do shit.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Oh, like that. Yeah. Like that. Yeah. Or like, and I asked my mom about it and like she has the same thing, like totally absurdly genetic strong resistance to all forms of opiate painkillers. I mean, it's, it's incredibly surprising that you haven't been in a situation where that's been required yet.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Very careful. Okay. Okay. Are you, are you like one of those Russian, like a royal family fucks where if you get cut and bleed, you're done. Are you kidding me? I had blood on my hands when I came in here. I bleed all over myself all the time.
Starting point is 00:24:10 God, fuck that bloodline. Literally. Yeah. No. It's hot. What? The fucking Russian royal family. And aren't you thinking like the English?
Starting point is 00:24:23 No, I'm pretty sure it was the Russian, um, like Oligarchs and, and, and, and fucks that basically kept the, they kept hematosis like modern and present by protecting the royal family that otherwise would have completely gotten wiped out by, you know, like natural selection. Like hemophilia is a, it's beyond natural selection. Like this thing is like you were built to die. Exactly. And, but they preserved it by preserving them because they were the richest and, and to
Starting point is 00:24:52 anybody currently living and or suffering with hemophilia who's making it fucking good job. But like, yeah, but they were able to like grow up old enough to like get married and have kids before eventually bleeding somehow accidentally and dying and that kept it going for a while because they were super rich and protected. And you're like, it's like money preventing natural selection in a way. Societal altruism and money bartering and all that crap creates new genetic funsies. Things that should be gone or not.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Well, and also, I mean, it doesn't help that they're all in bread back in the day. Of course. All the Royals, they're all, they're all a bunch of fucking in bread hicks. Yeah. Fucking steal your taxes. France had the right idea. What'd you do this week, buddy? Not much dude.
Starting point is 00:25:37 I went, I went, got pants and I told that story, but like I played a bunch of, I had one of those weeks where it's like no new releases that caught my eyes or just played a bunch of old shit. Okay. So the only two things of note is for funsies last night, I just said, fuck it. And through Dark Souls three in and man, when nobody's watching, you just fucking waltz through that game. Like it's nothing like just absentmindedly beat Gundar on the first shot, beat the samurai
Starting point is 00:26:15 on the first shot, beat, like just bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. And all I can think of the whole time, it's like, if I was streaming it like we did before or if I was LP in this like we did before, it's like, even though like I'm better now because I beat the game, right? Wouldn't go like this. It'd be a shit show and it's like, that's a curse, man. It's like play like nobody's watching or whatever. And that easily would apply to commentators, curse as well and all that LP curse LP tax.
Starting point is 00:26:48 It's just and I was like chat when people on discord, like I wasn't paying attention. The LP tax was like fully in effect as well because it's, you know, it's just like, no, not worried about it. No pressure. Did you do any of that crazy super like battle arena PVP? No, man, I played for like an hour and just was like, I just kind of put it down like kind of just like, you know, just also I want to say that man, steams like playstation for controller support on steam is the best ever of a feature for that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Like you just go into community configs for any game that ever came out on a console and there's some guys, there's Joey Jimbo's like a PS4 controller configuration that they made as a boot, but you guys are using that for getting up, right? The only thing I hate is just they had that, why do I have to be in big picture to use that? Oh, you don't, but you have to have the steam overlay on. Okay. Huh.
Starting point is 00:27:49 So how do I set that without being in big picture, just looking at my games library? Well, what I did was I set it because you set it to the game. Yeah. And then you use the controller, you have the controller on and then you load the game and that should work. I think. No, because like what I'm looking for is why can't I right click on the game because I had, I had it set up at some point where I turned on my PlayStation 4 controller and
Starting point is 00:28:12 was able to navigate the fucking not big picture steam library. Yeah. With the controller. Yeah, I know that. And if you do that, then it launches into, into what, when the game's open, the overlay turns into the big picture overlay. Right. My problem is I hate the steam overlay and turn it off on everything, but it doesn't
Starting point is 00:28:30 work without the overlay and it's like, fuck, it sucks. Yeah. They got to fix that. Well they're never going to. They just, they just added a bunch of new features so that they wouldn't have to add staff again. But yeah. And you know, Willie, you've been asking me, you've asked me in the past like, hey, Pat,
Starting point is 00:28:50 one day when I want to play New Vegas, give me the mod list, give me the, you know, give me the, the fucking thing, give me the instructions. And I recently, I threw it, I went back in, right. And you set it up, dude, so it's goofy because on Saturday I was like, I should stream tonight, right. And then somebody sent me a photo of New Vegas on Twitter and I went, I don't know why it looks like that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:16 All right. I'm going to do nothing tonight. I'm just going to fucking dive in and just mess with the mod manager and a lot of texture mods is the answer to that, but like. In the end, you installed everything, set it up and you did it your way. That's correct. Okay. But the thing is, it's like, I've modded New Vegas a lot.
Starting point is 00:29:36 I've done like multiple playthroughs of this game and, you know, every time I, it's, it's far enough away from the last time that you set it all up from scratch because, you know, this mod's outdated. That mod doesn't exist anymore, you know, and like people on the nexus for these games like, I'm like, Oh, what's the new bug patch? Okay. It's this one. When was it last updated yesterday?
Starting point is 00:29:58 Okay. That's an impressive level of commitment. And then you read the bug, the fix it's like this fixes every documented bug that has ever been reported. Wow. Okay. The game like new thing and you're like, okay, I don't, that's probably wrong or there might be like a few bugs with the patch mod itself, but like that's quite an achievement
Starting point is 00:30:23 supposedly. But the other thing is that like as the game gets older, new, new technical solutions have to take place to fix new problems that happen with interacting with modern hardware. So like new Vegas is a good one where you play that game, windowed period, or you play it in borderless window. You do that because there are bugs that happen in that game in full screen. Like so sometimes the combat freezes because it's in full screen, right? So you do borderless window.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Now, Willie, I know you like borderless window. I love borderless window. We use it all the time. It's the greatest. So guess what? When you go into the options in a modern setup and you set things to windowed, the highest window resolution you are allowed to use is 720p. That's unfortunate.
Starting point is 00:31:02 All right. So then you go and you're like, okay, I'm going to use the Fallout, new Vegas, NVSE, which is the new Vegas Script Extender, which you need to run most of your mods. Then you need to get the four gig version of that because the game originally only supports two gigabytes of RAM, but you have to enable large address aware so that it uses four gigs RAM. That makes it more stable, right? But if you go into the any file and kick it up to 4k and then use the new Vegas script
Starting point is 00:31:26 extender, four gig version, the borderless explodes past the fucking edge of the screen. You know, that bug that you've seen? Yep. Like, okay, well, what's the solution? Okay. No, you need to install borderless. You need to install one tweak, which enables borderless full screen by default. Then you need to use the standard new Vegas Script Extender.
Starting point is 00:31:44 And instead of using the four gig executable, you need to download the four gig address aware patcher that you run in. And it's like all this, and it's like, this is a completely different time. You can't, you told me you could come over and set everything. I could be ready to go in two hours, but every time you, when, when you ask me to, so when you eventually ask me to do that, I will have to relearn the entire process from scratch. So what? So because it changes.
Starting point is 00:32:15 So what is that number up to now? Now it's actually like an hour, okay? It's different entirely from what it was last time. In fact, it's considerably simplified. So like one of the bigger changes over the years is that I love the Nexus series of websites. I actually bought a lifetime subscription to their websites, which is like 60 bucks. And it unlocks download speeds from their servers, which is important when you're downloading
Starting point is 00:32:45 texture packs. The Nexus, the guys who do like all the mods for Witcher and fucking Dark Souls and fucking the Skyrims and all those guys, right? And like they, so every, what it used to be is like Oblivion came out, all right. You want to manually drag these mods in to your, to your folders. And every time you want to undo something, you got to reinstall the game. All right. That's what we got.
Starting point is 00:33:15 And eventually they come out with the Oblivion mod manager. It's okay. It's an automated interface that does this shit for you in a rollback changes, right? But it's for Oblivion and there's absolutely no overlap between anything and like the Oblivion mod manager works different from the Fallout mod manager, which, which, you know, and like, and then eventually the Nexus goes enough of this and creates the Nexus mod manager, which is a completely unified fucking thing that works and has rollback and shit and has a built in auto load sorter and all this stuff and like that thing alone has made these
Starting point is 00:33:46 games. Cause like, well, I don't think you've done any modding of this sort ever. On PC? Yeah. The, the closest thing I can talk, I can talk to you about is Mugen. Okay. Cause I've done a, I've made it my own. This is a different kind of thing, right?
Starting point is 00:34:01 Yeah. So the main nightmare. No, wait, I've done Cross Tekken. You know Cross Tekken? Okay. Well, that's, you remember that. Yeah. That's like drag and drop texture replacements, right?
Starting point is 00:34:10 That. So with, with this kind of stuff, when you're, when you're involving scripting, the nightmare becomes, or it used to be rather before boss loader and loot loader, it becomes, okay, I'm installing 10 mods. They all have instructions about what they affect and what order they must be loaded in and it becomes that riddle of, okay, this weather mod must be loaded last. But this texture mod has to be loaded before scripting mods. This NPC mod that adds a character has to be before the texture mod because it has its
Starting point is 00:34:51 own textures, but it has to be after any mods that change NPC and that shit, right? And that was the nightmare. Cause what would happen is if you load in the wrong order, often you would not get an instantaneous game crash because that would be too kind. You would load into a game and all of a sudden weird behavior would happen and all sorts of bullshit would rain. Dude. So like, well, you know, once upon a time when you wanted to play bid for power, you
Starting point is 00:35:16 downloaded power dot zip file folder structure and just dropped it well over your quake folder. So then it made it bid for power. So the, that's, so there was a, what the fuck was the name of the mod? There was a Skyrim mod that came out like a little while ago. It's its own game. It's just its own game that uses the skyrim engine and it works like that. It's just straight up, download it and then it, it turns the main menu into this game and then we're going, the old skyrim is not available anymore.
Starting point is 00:35:45 And that's cool. There's your total conversion, but the vast majority of those modifications are not total conversions there. Are you, do you not like the default noise in this thing or do you want to have a thing that increases your run speed under certain conditions, yada, yada, yada, yada, but forget all that. I actually want to talk about a specific one. Josh Sawyer is the guy, he's the, he was the project lead on New Vegas and like two, three
Starting point is 00:36:10 years, no longer, a couple of years after the game came out, he put a mod out that completely rebalances the gameplay into what it was supposed to be at some point in development, which added a lot more survival elements, made the game a lot harder, made, so it's an official mod. It's, it's a semi official mod. So, okay. It's very weird. A mod by an official person.
Starting point is 00:36:34 It's the lead of the project saying this was what my, like, intended, that's like the health values of characters are modified and all ammo has weight, stuff like that. And I played it for about two hours and I just like, man, this sucks. Oh yeah. Like, and it's one of those things where it's like a lot of these total conversion mods for these kinds of games, like, oh, we're going to add heat and cold mechanics and we're going to add survival mechanics and we're going to have, oh, you can't fast travel anymore and you know, you can't carry as much because that's stupid as a realistic grounded experience.
Starting point is 00:37:12 And I come away from that and go like, man, I don't care. I want to carry a million things in my backpack and shoot everyone with completely overpowered skills. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:37:25 It's, it's too far. And to those who have beaten those games like a dozen times and want something a little grittier, I get it. Just way to suck the like, I was playing and I was like, oh, okay, I'm thirsty. I need to go get some, some water, but then I'm having my pack is full because I'm carrying three guns. So I got to go back to town and, and so all my stuff and then you fast travel and the fast travel has time take place in it.
Starting point is 00:37:48 So you get to your location and your character's like parched with thirst and I was like, oh, man. Maybe I'm a baby casual, but it's just not for me, you know, but I thought you liked having all those little meters that governed like whether or not you're going to drop dead or starve or, or this or that or whatever. I can appreciate that and I can appreciate it a lot more in a game that has those mechanics built into the core of its gameplay, but games that have them as a side thing or added in after the fact.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Yeah. Well, that's not really what I think that when I play this game, I focus on like when I play a Skyrim or a New Vegas or what have you, I focus on two things, talking to people, which is like most of it, honestly, crawling through dungeons and getting stuff. All of the rest of the things are like these tertiary values that I don't really care for. And then people go, no, my love is the, the screw, the survival aspect. Well, if I was going to play a survival game, I'd like to play long dark instead. Because that's a proper fucking survival game.
Starting point is 00:38:58 I feel like if I had to just make a hard fast rule of preference, I think it would be like those things. I don't mind them as long as everyone else that I'm fighting in the game has the same under the same rules under the same rules. So enemies can starve as well. Enemies can get thirsty and I don't think I can take of a single fucking game that exactly does that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:20 But that's what it is. I don't want everyone to have the same things as I do and the same problems that I can have and inflict the same issues on them that I can get inflicted on me. I know a game that does that and you'll like it a lot because they recently showed off a really good character creator for it. It's monster hunter, monster, monster, because I've heard of this. Enemies also get tired and need to eat food just like you monsters. That's right.
Starting point is 00:39:46 They need to get, they, they get hungry. That's why you feed them the poison food. Monster hunter world. That's correct. They actually did show off the character creator recently. It's, it's, it's not black desert, but it's nothing is desert. It's very, very impressive. Now you're just trying to know you go look at it.
Starting point is 00:40:06 Now you're trying. You can do, you can do many characters in that character. You're saying something stupid. You crazy. You crazy. I'm a little, that game looks good. Yeah. It's the most impressed.
Starting point is 00:40:19 I've been looking at a monster hunter. You know what? I mean, I don't know. Well, you know what? You know what helps? It doesn't look like a fucking 2DS game. Yeah. That does help.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Like, I mean, that game's look like, I mean, you can, if you think in your head, monster hunter, what do you think? You think of emotions playing on his ESP and crying and you, you think of like PS2, like looking game. Yeah. Like a fairly old janky shit that probably. Fairly primitive game. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Like it helps a lot to just make it look nice. I mean, it's just, it's another franchise that I can see that it's like, you know, there's so many of them, but I can tell that like, yeah, like, if I sat down and gave a real honest shot, I'd probably enjoy what was there. Or at the very least. Or I'd find something. You could appreciate it from a distance or what have you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:10 But sometimes the game comes along and it just, you know, you, you miss the boat. Yeah. It passes you like strangers in the night. Don't worry, man. You can't get back. Sorry. This boat comes back to port every two or three years. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Okay. It's always a good time to start. Actually it might actually help them a lot because Dragon's Dogma has become like a cult classic and Dragon's Dogma is a Monster Hunter game. Period. It is. It absolutely 100% is. It controls like it.
Starting point is 00:41:36 It plays like it. It moves like it. Like, okay. It was, it was designed to be, hey, well, okay. North Americans don't really care about Monster Hunter. What about this? Right? It's just like lost planet.
Starting point is 00:41:48 Right, right, right, right. Capcom made a bunch of games in a row to try and figure out what Monster Hunter for North America was. How to get that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I feel like they kind of soften people up for like them actually going, ah, okay. Fine. We'll, uh, you know, we'll, we'll get back in my tomorrow that, uh, pay you to pay Monster
Starting point is 00:42:10 Hunter. Yeah, I know. Actually. No, like extra. Like I'll give you a 20. I'm going to record a Monster Hunter video with me. I'll give you a 20. Like right here.
Starting point is 00:42:19 I'll buy you lunch. My week. Yeah. What'd you do, man? It was pretty busy. Um, did a bunch of things. I guess I'll start out with, uh, the part where I played, uh, some Sanko no Runde two, AKA war tech.
Starting point is 00:42:42 And it's just as fun as it was, but I, some changes were not super cool. And they added one. They added like they threw out a bunch of characters, including my favorite. And they added a super busted one. So it's all like, you sound excited. Yeah. It's nice that it's dead. There's a sequel, though.
Starting point is 00:43:00 That's cool. And it's nice that it's on not just one console. So, um, I like, I still think it's a cool like Schmup. I don't know, man. If I ever saw a game that went like, man, that game's going to get a sequel. It would not be Sanko no Runde. Yeah. But it did.
Starting point is 00:43:14 And like, it is just as much like fucking dojin bait as ever. Oh, it's characters, but, uh, are you drawing your dojins? I, they drew them for you. Oh, they did. Yeah. They're all there. But, uh, I will say that again, like the, the basic premise of fighting game Schmup battle and then you both turn into bosses and then create bullet patterns is pretty
Starting point is 00:43:38 cool. So, um, isn't there like a situation in which like matches would become eventually like unwinnable if people got good enough? Uh, like if Schmup, if Schmup got Pat fought himself, okay, would that match ever end? It can because there's definitely unavoidable bullet patterns. Okay. There is unavoidable shit. You have, um, like, like bursts that blow away like all attacks, but you have a limited
Starting point is 00:44:03 amount. Okay. And like you have a stamina system. That means you're not going to be able to avoid certain things, you know? So there's that, um, it is, it is at the end of the day, a, a, like it is still a fighting game. You, you know what I mean? You can't just dodge everything.
Starting point is 00:44:18 But, uh, but, uh, yeah, if you want that, like that sort of experience, it's pretty fun. Uh, I spent a bunch of time playing Marvel versus Capcom Infinite. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. That game came out. How was it?
Starting point is 00:44:31 Did it? It did. I spoke to a friend of mine who, uh, we had been on the, on the hanging out and discord laughing at Marvel train for like, since the game's announcement. Yeah. And he straight up was like, wait, they came out. Yeah. And I'm like, wow, that, that bandwagon was way fun to get on.
Starting point is 00:44:51 Yeah. But how is it? Like for real? And so I don't, anyone yelling at me about near like, please, I get it. I want to go through the first game first or at the very least watch the LP to know the cost. How's that go? I'm going through your things.
Starting point is 00:45:05 Is it shit? It's pretty dumb. But it's fine. Tried. But I'm trying. But that's what I want to do first. So please. All right.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Uh, the Marvel train. Oh, people are sitting on you for near because you're playing Marvel. No, no, no, no, because it's like now persona's over or start the next of the fucking giant crash. So I'm like that. Yeah. But I'm very aware that other people are not necessarily like that. Like when, when we finished the persona five spoiler cast and we were walking out, I look
Starting point is 00:45:34 over, well, it goes, now I can finally start SMT apocalypse and he goes, right, like I'm that kind of person, but like, that's come on. That's ridiculous. So, but anyway, uh, Marvel infinite is, is a very, it's the weirdest I've ever felt playing a new fighting game. Yeah. I'm going to, I'm going to try and put, put away the lulls for a second because I'm actually genuinely more interested in the reality of this.
Starting point is 00:46:00 Why do you feel weird about it? Because it's everything that we've been like laughing at and going on about. It is all those things. It's all those things. Yeah. But at the end of the day, the gameplay is fine. Yeah. And the tag system, the new version of it is really like it's interesting and it lets
Starting point is 00:46:20 you do fun things. I've seen some goofy shit with some stone system. It's such a fun, it's a fun way to like deal with like your whole team thing because they're letting you tag back and forth so frequently means that like you can, you can do a lot of crazy shit that you couldn't do in the past, but it also slows the game down a lot. The game is nowhere near as chaotic as three or even two was. Yeah. Cause two and three both had a problem that we've talked about at length of like your
Starting point is 00:46:47 playing like you're watching people play the game and unless you're in there, you're looking at it going, I don't know what the fuck is happening. There are six that are often matches like six characters are out on the screen near constantly. Yeah. So it's like that's tough to follow in this at high level. You're watching four characters on screen doing things and that's about it. And I mean, in general, the, uh, the way it's sort of set up is that like you don't have,
Starting point is 00:47:14 you don't, like there's moments, there's things that clutter the screen that like deliberately hide what you're doing so that you can find a way to open them up or whatever, but it's never to the point of like strikers in addition to supers, in addition to the DHC's and whatnot. And so it reminds me a lot more of Marvel versus Capcom one, right? That's a good thing. Right. The feeling of MVC one is a good thing. I like MVC one a lot, especially with the return of crossover combination and like two
Starting point is 00:47:41 characters fighting on screen at the same time, doing stuff, right? So you're doing all that and you're, you know, and I, and I, and I mean, I'm just like trying to get the hang of like, okay, I'm using up my wall bounce. I'm using my ground bounce. I'm using my, you can only do one per combo. You can only do one per combo. Exactly. That's fair.
Starting point is 00:47:59 And you're trying to most of, you're finding the most efficient way to like, you know, use all these things and like you can go through. It's like you're creating a sentence and then they're like, there's punctuation. You can only use this many commas in a sentence without that sentence being awkward. You can only use one exclamation point, you get, et cetera, et cetera. And so you, you, you, you know, and like the placement of which do you decide to use first, like whether you use the semicolon first or the hyphen determines like, oh, well the scaling on the damage is higher or lower or whatever, right?
Starting point is 00:48:27 Or you can go for reset, all that stuff. It's, it's, it's the same old fun beginning of a, of a hyper game. Yeah. Invent your own mix. Where, where are the, the, the, the skies, the limit on, Exactly. I found some really cool Spencer tech that like no one else has seen or done or whatever that I'm like happy about like inventing.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Yeah. So that's fun. At the same time, I have never yawned so hard. Every time I've like played the game, picked a character and fought another team online or offline because I'm so bored with the roster already that it's painful. And it sucks because I'm like, this is brand new. And you know, and like that exhaustion you get from like, I don't know, maybe eight to 10 months in, like just under a year, a really specific moment in time when people were like,
Starting point is 00:49:21 man, wish like there was a super Marvel, it's Marvel, Super Marvel three or something. Right. And then they said, Hey, it's ultimate Marvel. And then all the characters got leaked out and everyone, yeah, excitement was re-injuined It feels like we're at that point immediately. It's instant like, like it's so funny to think about how they really do feel like function versus function infinite because you're already like, yeah, I know this is what that character Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:54 I know that. It's the same. So like to break it down, like in the current roster of 30, once it's 30, 30, five or new six, six, one. Yeah. Who's this? Who's six? Well, it's, what is it?
Starting point is 00:50:08 It's, I know on Capcom, it's Jetta and Thanos, Jetta, Thanos, Jetta, X, Gamora, Gamora, uh, uh, uh, hold on, Ultron, yeah, and there's one more. Is there? I don't think there is. I think it's five, man. People are saying six because Monster Hunter is going to come out like in a week or something. Yeah. No, I think, I think there's one more.
Starting point is 00:50:32 Okay. Regardless. I think 18 to 20% of the roster is new and all the others. Yeah. And like, and Captain Marvel, Captain Marvel, yeah, you're right, six. You're super right. Uh, but it's like, it's not even that they're characters that have already been hyperfighting. It's not even that they're characters that have all that are longstanding Capcom or Marvel
Starting point is 00:50:51 character. You know, it's that like of those 80% or 78% that are returning, like 90% of that is returning from the last game. So, so, so what we have now, cause exactly cause like a character like shadows new character like Thanos is new, but he's been in the 2D games, but it's new enough in the sense that he hasn't been in the last game. Uh, anyway, so you have like all that going on and you have the feeling that this is almost like this is not Tekken seven.
Starting point is 00:51:22 This is Tekken revolution, bloodline revolution. No, no, no, no, no, Tekken, oh, man, the movie. No, the, the online free to play game, the online only free to play game. Right? That's the feeling, right? This is, this is the soul caliber broken destiny. That's come on that. That one's too much.
Starting point is 00:51:43 But it's the feeling of it's not the next game. It's the in between where we took all the same stuff and then have a couple new things for you. Elisa's new, Eliza read it, whatever, but it's all the other characters. We had a, we had a small discussion like last week right after we finished the podcast about this. But it's not free to play. And it's like the, the point that you brought up is something that I hadn't considered because
Starting point is 00:52:06 we were talking about Spencer, right? Yeah. Spencer's a genuinely baffling re-inclusion most confusing because yeah, go on. And the point that Willie brought up was that like, okay, you're going to use Spencer again. That's fine. He's a good fighter. You can, you know, he's got cool moves. Why not just use the character model from the other Spencer that you already have as
Starting point is 00:52:31 a, as a DLC, the red hair, the DLC, like Rearm's costume, like is there, why don't you just do that? Why, but what do you lose besides everyone's like ire that, that model already exists. No. Why not have fucking, uh, use the Dante or virtual like a Dark Knight costume and have it be sparta instead of anything and just remix the, the, just a little bit, you know, nah, it feels fucking rushed, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:05 Um, so, you know, in the end, like you just, it's this ultimate division of like, you know how over the years there's always been the side of things where I'm like, I tend to be like, I understand the gameplay side of fighting games and that's why I like, I lean towards that. And then we'd, are we debate over like the production or the casual, like, sort of, yeah, I'd like, or like the, the presentation and over time I've, I've become more, I've become less in a fighting games in comparison to what I was like five, six years ago. So just pure surface versus like the meat, you know, and like, I'm always like, it's
Starting point is 00:53:39 about the meat guys. Yeah. You know, it's about the meat. And then, and then like things coming back and forth and like you go, but no, but it's important that the presentation keeps people interested, otherwise no one wants to show up to eat your meat. That's right. Right.
Starting point is 00:53:52 Here, it's the most extreme it's ever been where it's like the meat is like, it's not even super good. It's, it's good. It's good. It's fun. It's fun new meat. Right. But the, the, the surface is just so shallow and boring that I can't fight.
Starting point is 00:54:12 So it's anybody or argue that anybody should go out and like buy that steam version that fell off of the charts in the first three days by fire, the God that got beaten by fire to the gods or the fact that on it's like being super low like on Twitch, like no one's watching it. Yeah. No one's streaming it. Everyone's just angry because fchamp is just bodying everybody and they're like twins. I mean, like this, this, this problem is like death for Twitch viewership because it's
Starting point is 00:54:36 like, why would you want to watch the thing that has no newness, no flat, you know, and like, like that's, that's, so it's just like, fuck, like this is real again, it's really the feeling of function versus function where you're just like, okay, anyone who's out here staunchly defending the, the meat, you know what I mean, like the functions missing the forest for the trees. Well, it's not even that it's more that like, even these people are having a hard time going like, ah, the hypes just, well, I mean, take, take me for example, right. I feel like I, I fit in a really perfect place to be disappointed by this game, if that makes
Starting point is 00:55:10 any sense. I buy almost every single fighting game that comes out of new, of, of significant status. Right. I buy every Capcom fighter. I buy every Namco fighter. I buy the under night in birth and all that shit because I love fucking around with new characters and doing a bunch of bullshit. Even though I don't, I don't practice anymore.
Starting point is 00:55:27 You know, I, I play Tekken for a couple of weeks and I dropped it, but I, I love and appreciate fighting games. I just don't personally value the time that I put into them anymore. Right. When I look at Marvel infinite, I picked up Marvel three in a second. I picked up ultimate Marvel three in a second because there's a billion fucking characters in that and they all do crazy shit and all the wind quotes and all the fucking shit going along.
Starting point is 00:55:47 The celebration is still there. Yeah. Oh man. Oh, come on. He does this. Yeah. Or amateur. And here I'm just like, why, why would I pick it up?
Starting point is 00:55:55 Why? What character? Monster Hunter. Now there's Monster Hunter. But Monster Hunter is a deal. Like I'm going to pay what, $94 total so I can play Monster Hunter and like, man, Thomas or mom like fucking nailed it when it was making fun of the game on Twitter, more like griping. It's like, why are all the new characters?
Starting point is 00:56:18 I'm paraphrasing here, but he was basically pointing out like, why is it on nearly completely old cast with a bunch of new characters being DLC? Why didn't you just have the new characters be in the roster and have returning favorites DLC, which everybody goes, yeah, I wanted my character Black Panther and Monster Hunter figure prominently in the story and they have multiple fights and their own stage. Yeah. And the only way to guess is that it's like time, you know, like they just didn't have the time.
Starting point is 00:56:49 Well, for Monster Hunter, I'm really cynical because I have the opinion that Capcom knew that Monster Hunter would push DLC sales in Japan. I guarantee there's hidden invisible reasons that explain exactly why the games in the state it's in and justify like all the mistakes and all the problems. But I, but you can't help but just feel, but at the end, you should have just not done it this way, you know, just, but then just don't do it that way. All right. Let's be fair.
Starting point is 00:57:20 Let's try and be fair. Clearly, the deal with Marvel is put this game out and push the MCU. Yeah. Clearly like that. That is more than obvious and that affects the roster and that might affect the time that they're able to put the product out in and that forces you to cut corners and stuff like that. I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:57:42 Like I feel like even having less characters, but more characters being new would have been preferable, you know, like, or I don't know, even X was a model in an ultimate as a zero old costume. So technically, that model already existed too. You know what I mean, right? Oh, anyway, it's just, it's, I've never felt this weird like duality in this such in such a like, because I'm like, I'm basically, I'm like, okay, well, here's where it's at. I'm playing this and I'm learning how to be like, you know, decent enough at it that
Starting point is 00:58:17 if I'm ever caught in a room where people are playing, I can grab, I can sit down and then it's like, okay, we're playing this. All right. And I can sit down and play, you know, and that's basically where we're at. And I'm like, yeah, I'll, I'll get to that point. And then I don't know what else to say until something else interesting happens because I don't like, I'm playing online and just going through the motions and I'm like, every once in a while, someone will do a cool new thing and I'm like, oh, that's interesting.
Starting point is 00:58:43 But like as soon as no, that's your feeling because I've seen you play these kinds of games and when you see something brand new and genuinely interesting, you don't go, oh, that's interesting. You go, oh, look at that. That's cool. They just did a thing. Instead, it's like, oh, that's, it's like almost academic and, and you don't want that on week one. And more importantly, like nine out of 10 matches have like, characters are popping up and I'm
Starting point is 00:59:12 just rolling my eyes because I'm like, yeah, of course it's Dormammu and Dante. Yeah. Sure. Of course it's Cap and Ryu. Of course you're playing zero and Mega Man. Duh. Like, yeah. And I'm just like already at that point and I'm like, oh, yeah, look, it's Nova and
Starting point is 00:59:25 fucking Iron Man. Like all, all Tron. Hey, yeah. And I'm like, I'm like, and then the one time I'm, I don't feel that way as I go, I see like every once in a while they'll be like, oh shit, someone's doing Jetta and Hagar. And I'll be like, oh, yay, that's weird. Oh, there's Arthur and Thanos. Hey, that's fun.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Okay. Let's see what you got. And every other match is like, I'm just already sick. You know what I mean? So I remember, I remember when King of Fighters 11 came out and we were playing it and I remarked to you that the roster felt really small. And that's because the raw, and the King of Fighters 11 has a fairly large roster. It's huge.
Starting point is 01:00:06 It's, it's pretty fucking big. And you explained to me, it's like, it's because you're playing three person matches. It's because you're seeing every character super often super in every match. There are six different people usually. So you're, you're having that character fatigue in an accelerated rate. Yes. Marvel. I mean, it's only two per team here, but so many of them are all like Marvel was always
Starting point is 01:00:27 going to have this accelerated pace. But now you don't even have the new blood in. So like, I mean, I saw Max running Ghost Strider and that's, that's good. That's good. That's fun. But like, how many teams or combos that you're genuinely unfamiliar with in any way? Could there be now? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:00:48 Yeah. Hey, I got a question because I've heard people talk about, how is the music? Because I've heard, I saw people saying that it was like some, it was fine in some places and like genuinely awful and some others, you know, my honest answer is what I haven't noticed. Oh yeah. Okay. Great.
Starting point is 01:01:07 I straight up haven't noticed all I can say is there's one cool thing I've noticed about the music that's that light is I like is when you do your infinity surge, the character theme plays. Yeah, that's good. So whoever you're using your main theme starts playing and it takes over the track, which is nice because that's kind of like Tatsunoko when you tag it and it switches themes. I like that. That's a nice touch.
Starting point is 01:01:28 Outside of that, I have no, I haven't fucking, you know, but I get, but like there's some, but I'm definitely like, I've had some fun in the lab. I've had some fun online, finding ways to fuck people up and like, you know, they've done a thing with like one or two new moves that I'm like, oh, that's a creative thing. Spencer can throw out a grenade now and then like grapple and then the grapple, he grapples it and like uses it as an explosion when he gets up in your face. That's cool. There's, you know, and whatnot.
Starting point is 01:01:53 Like, I still think the space, the space, yeah, I spent him in the fucking box is the fucking coolest. Oh yeah. No. And there's some fun dumb shit that comes out of that when you put Hulk in the box and he does his gamma crush, you see him jump and then it just glitches into him having the asteroid coming down. Oh, because he can't leave the box, there's some dumb shit, you know.
Starting point is 01:02:19 I saw a video of like, if you can, if you put Captain America in the box and he's able to crouch, punch you, he can get you into an infinite block string that you can't escape because his crouching punch pushes him super far out, but like putting him in the box and letting him do that is a dumb ass move because he catches you. Once anything hits 99 hits, they auto flip out. So that's their anti-infinite system. Also, if you have two meters, you can jump in with your partner and combo break. But there's gameplay, not infinite, but pseudo-infinites because if you use like the time gem, which
Starting point is 01:02:54 I do, it just makes all your attacks faster. And so you get into a point where you're like, I can hit my hardest button and then combo into itself or combo any move into itself. So why would I try to do anything but go hard punch, hard punch, hard punch, hard punch, hard punch for like 20 seconds and then just do a super at the end of it? Why not? That's the most efficient thing to do right now. So I'm just going to do that and you're like, what?
Starting point is 01:03:18 That doesn't look advanced. That's high level, man. There's no swag to that. It's just dumb, but it's the best way to kill the guy right now, you know? Also I've found like people doing like all kinds of crazy swag combos and setups and videos and stuff, but you also can just do like a one, two, three, four, launch one, two, three, four, tag one, two, three, four, super and do just as much. If not maybe, well, maybe 2% less or something.
Starting point is 01:03:44 Like people are trying to, the whole thing is like you want to get your touch of death or whatever. Yes, of course. And like anyone that can do like a combo that does over 7,000 is like, holy shit, you've got a really good set. I hit 7.4K with Spider-Man. Right. Yeah, I saw people talking about that.
Starting point is 01:03:57 And then I picked Thanos and I went one, two, three, four, launch one, two, three, four, super OTG level three and did 88,000 or 8,800, which is almost full and like that's like ridiculous numbers for doing the most bread and butter, basic shit, you know, touch of death for everybody. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know, man. It's, it's like, I feel it's looking like that eSports video is not going to, not going
Starting point is 01:04:21 to pan out. Okay. So before we move on, I want to talk about that for like a second, but I also want to talk about like the one, the one little pinhole that has been, you know, came out about the games development is that Reuben Langdon thing where Reuben Langdon on Facebook is like, yeah, Dante looks like shit. It's really disappointing. It's, you know, son is very upset.
Starting point is 01:04:45 He did not approve. They did not ask it's, you know, son, if it was okay to use Dante, which is like really weird actually. Yeah. Cause that was like a holdup for earlier games that you would have to get the creator or the director of the project's permission to use their characters. And then like he's, he's even talking about the script is like, I did the best little I got.
Starting point is 01:05:03 Yeah. Hope you like it. And it's like Reuben Langdon. And you pointed out to me, it's like, he's not worried. He's the voice of Ken. He's the voice of Chris. He's the voice of Dante. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:13 He's everybody. He's, he's Capcom's main man. He's yes. He's fine. Nothing's going to happen to him. He can talk all the shit he wants. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:23 But, but more importantly, you get that he's friends with it sooner. Yes. He hangs out with it sooner. And that's where his feelings are, are synced up, you know, and just like people internally unhappy. Yeah. What's up with that, man? But yeah, I know that eSports video fucking package is now like the funniest thing in
Starting point is 01:05:41 the fucking world. It just, what reality were you expect? One where perhaps there were a reality in like infused by the gem is the one they were hoping to get because that life that they showed is not going to happen. I can tell you exactly how that happened. You want to hear how that happened? Some team very likely underneath their own constraints, right, are aware that they're going to be putting out a product that they can be proud of in the gameplay, but they're
Starting point is 01:06:09 aware that it's going to be rough around the edges, right? And feel for the team and all that stuff, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They send that up to the producer. Producer sends it over to marketing, right? Marketing is under the direct thumb of corporate who wants money, right?
Starting point is 01:06:23 Wants, you know, exposure. Yeah. Marketing goes, okay. What do we have? Okay. This is a Marvel fighting game. All right. What's the history of our company with Marvel fighting games?
Starting point is 01:06:32 Okay. Lots of community, lots of ground swell, Street Fighter V's got a great tournament scene. Okay. Let's push this tournament thing. Yeah. Completely absent from the reality of public opinion about the game, possible release, its legs, et cetera, and every other aspect of development, whatever, whatever fucking game came out, whether it be Marvel or Darkstalkers or whatever the fuck, right?
Starting point is 01:06:55 At this point in time, after Street Fighter's big tournament in the Capcom Cup stuff, it was going to get that. Yeah. No matter what. Yeah. And it just happened to fill in the slot. It happened to Marvel. And marketing is like reality stone and tried their best and that thing leaked and boy,
Starting point is 01:07:15 oh boy, did that do them no favors, man. It makes, it makes, so I saw a complaint of that, it makes Capcom look cocky, right? It makes them look like they take that audience for granted. And I think that's unfair. I think marketing takes every audience for granted. Yeah. For sure. Easily.
Starting point is 01:07:34 Because that's their job. Easily. But like, I don't think that falls on the developers. I think they probably did the best with the time. Because this game came out fucking fast, man. Like real fast. Like it got announced like what, six months ago? Whatever.
Starting point is 01:07:49 And it's out. So I don't know. All I can really say is I guess just like, you know, this definitely proves that in the battle of, you know, training stage versus this, this, this scenario makes me understand a lot of people's complaints about SF five a lot better complaints that I didn't understand or even appreciate about SF five gameplay stuff. No, it's presentation. The way that it released stuff like that because SF five and infinite have the same problems.
Starting point is 01:08:21 Just one is much more advanced than the other in those issues, right? SF five has issues of like, you know, like size of roster compared to the last game in the franchise. Despite, despite that mean, you know that like reality is that new stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's not what people feel like.
Starting point is 01:08:41 Right. Yeah. Lack of modes, lack of like, think of how like, and this is really lame, but like think of how barren the main menu is, like all these little things they do add up and Marvel is like this perfect example of good game. Don't care. Right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:01 Yeah. It's good. It's a good game. And I don't care at all. And the weird part to me is I always think about games like, because, because, you know, when you have, because there can be games that come out that are like 2D that are good games and people still don't care. Like no one, there's no reason why, but Yadda Garasu is not popular.
Starting point is 01:09:21 No. It's a good game. It's great. And there's just no reason. I can tell you the reasons. It looks old. Okay. That's the reason.
Starting point is 01:09:29 I guess. But is that it? Yes. Okay. And it's, and it's a completely new IP with no existing fighters and that people can recognize. Right. And, but, but like at the same time though, like, and, and, you know, almost the same can
Starting point is 01:09:40 be said for like fantasy strike, which I'm enjoying on steam. I'm having a ton of fun playing that, but that's not for everybody and like the art, I think the art style is a lot of, you know, what people seem to not like about it. And things like that. But you know, there's like a lot of just sort of like, okay, what is a version of this that has something? Well, Skullgirls, I guess. Yes.
Starting point is 01:10:00 Skullgirls is the version of that works where it comes out, it's new, and it has enough going on so that even if you don't play it art style wise, you're like, that's different and strong. So you like what's happening. And gameplay wise, even if you don't care about the art, you're having fun. So you have the best of both worlds. Not everything can be Skullgirls. Nope.
Starting point is 01:10:17 It certainly can't. And also Lavzera bust their ass to make Skullgirls. I mean, of course, of course, yeah, the story, you know, but you know, but no, I guess, yeah, just at the end of the day, like I've, I've, I feel hollow and it's so weird because like, you know, I just, I'm, I'm still playing it as much as I'd play any other fighter that's coming out right now. But I'm just the enjoyment. It's like, you know, that first three months of enjoyment, like it's almost like we cut
Starting point is 01:10:40 those out of the picture entirely. And like I started like three months in or four months. There's a definitive. Which means the half-life is shorter than ever. There's a very definitive difference between the games Capcom puts out where you can tell where resources went, right, RA seven resources went into that, right, SF five, not nearly as many resources went into that, right, monster hunter, like, you know, it's, I don't mean to break, but like, you can tell money's going into that, like all the different models and
Starting point is 01:11:14 all that stuff and the way the environment's like that money, right. Marvel, no, and like, I really hope and because it's, it's been not fighting game money, fighting game, no money, right. I hope that doesn't continue because I think Capcom makes really good fucking fighting games and would be very disappointed to see them kind of shoot themselves in the foot by like kind of taking that audience for granted. Yeah, because SF five, they absolutely took the street fighter audience for granted. Well, it, it, it, it's, it, the casual audience.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Yes, they took the cash. They're like street fighter people, people love Ryu and it's like, ah, people love a little bit more than Ryu is more there. But the roster picks that five had were fucking good. I agree. They, so that problem is not the same as Marvel at all, because those are all solid ass interesting returning characters. The irony is that SF four had the, like a similar roster problem to Marvel, but it had
Starting point is 01:12:13 a big cast when it came out. So it was fine. Right, right, right. Only four new characters, very similar to Marvel. But I mean, for a bunch of returning faces you haven't seen in a while and like old favorites, you know, it would be like characters that were only in Marvel one or also on and Ruby heart coming back and also also SF four is the return of fighting it.
Starting point is 01:12:33 Yes, right. Period. So that gets a whole other whole other massive factor, you know, and I mean, it's like, do you remember when Battleborn came out and the weekend or the week that Battleborn came out, the weekend prior, I believe it was, was the first weekend that Overwatch had a free beta weekend for everybody and how that just like, I remember asking, I think on the podcast, like the fuck does Blizzard? What's Blizzard's fucking problem with Gearbox?
Starting point is 01:13:10 Like, no, jam their thumb in there. I like this and I feel like that, that direct ass comparisons, squeeze that bitch. Like it just, it fucked Battle, like, yeah, absolutely. Cause they said we can, they said, you know what? We can fuck them, right? Yeah. And DBZ fighters or in the meantime, did the same thing. In the mean, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:35 They held their beta weekend two days before Marvel came out so that the comparison would be fresh and direct. And guess what? Oh, I know exactly what Capcom did to Dark System Works. They made fighting games for 10 years longer than that. But so in this last week of playing like fighting games, I jumped up and down in my seat a whole bunch and that was not due to anything. It wasn't due to the game that you bought.
Starting point is 01:14:01 It was due to Wolfgang fucking Fist. Yeah. Because we got that Yamcha footage coming in. And like it is, it is in our system works advantage to press that direct comparison as hard as they can. Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah. And it like, they know, fuck. And this is a weird situation because DBZ is our D Dragon Ball Fighter Z existing
Starting point is 01:14:21 straight up makes Marvel worse. Yes. Well, that was if you remember the moment that the tide turned, it was, it wasn't when Marvel got announced. Nope. It was when Dragon Ball got announced that everyone went fuck Marvel. Yeah, that was the moment. And right at that everyone was like, oh yeah, I don't mean this in terms of perception.
Starting point is 01:14:38 I don't mean this in terms of subjectivity. I mean, the existence of a of what is clearly a more, I'm going to say, a product that more effort is going into straight up makes the other one worse. Not by comparison, but like overtly, like, because you know that it can be done better because I can see it over there. Right. I can see. I mean, I think it's still within the realm of perception.
Starting point is 01:15:08 Sure. But but it's it's it's so tangible, right? Like if DB Dragon Ball Fighter Z didn't exist, Marvel would be in a better place. It would feel better. You'd be less tired of it. Your complaints right now would feel less sharp because you wouldn't have such an obvious direct comparison. I would like people are getting excited over.
Starting point is 01:15:30 I would like and I would like Luffy more. Luffy more if ace didn't exist. Exactly. Exactly. Gotcha. Exactly. Gotcha. OK. Guess what? Luffy is really cool. I'm sure. I'm sure he is. Ace shows up and you're like, get out of my face.
Starting point is 01:15:53 Every single picture of that dude. I'm like, wow. Can you be my main character, please? So much cooler. Oh, boy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's the fucking cute lamb and the Simpsons, man.
Starting point is 01:16:09 Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, I don't know what to say. I'm almost exhausted already talking about it. And like, you know, shout outs to anyone who's keeping it down. Anyone who's having fun with the game is fine. I know Max is having a really good time with it. Max always has a good time. Yeah, man. Man's born with a smile on his face.
Starting point is 01:16:28 Absolutely. You know what I mean? And like, there's some definitely fun to be had here. Oh, Max has got a fucking nominated for the Streamys. That's absolutely. Best streamer, man. Damn straight. You should go vote for him. Yeah, he's great. Damn straight. Do it. Do it five times.
Starting point is 01:16:44 Don't do it five times. No, seriously, don't. OK. Because that could cause him to get disqualified, probably. OK. Hey, it looks like you have a million votes from five guys. Six people, maybe. Right. Don't do that.
Starting point is 01:16:57 OK. Vote fair. Yeah. I watched Gone Girl. That's a really fucking good movie. I obviously it's infinitely late to the party, but holy shit. Ben Affleck. Good job. I suggest you watch it. OK. It's on Netflix. That's all. You know, tell me a Ben Affleck movie is probably pretty good.
Starting point is 01:17:18 Well, it's it's it's a Fincher. It's David Fincher. Yeah, no, but Ben Affleck's also just like he stars in good movies. Well, I mean, like like Batman, that's right. That's right. And Batman. Great movies. He's going to star in that. Oh, yeah. He promises. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:17:31 And Julie. I really got to watch Julie. Yeah, because I got to know Ben Affleck. Good movies. I got to know. So I also watched a couple episodes of Neo Yokeo because I wanted to know you got to know. I have to know. I love I need. I'm so happy. Oh, my girlfriends like this, too,
Starting point is 01:17:57 where it's like I'm surrounded by people that are overcome with the urge of like, I have to know. I need to know you're wasting your time. I have to know. Oh, man. And I have seen some clips. I went like four ways in or so. You saw the Toblerone or all that stuff. I saw the comment by the director of the episode
Starting point is 01:18:17 talking about the Toblerone. What do you say? Where he's like, I hope that Toblerone bit really sticks with people because that's the audience we're trying to reach, dude. And I don't know what the fuck he's talking about, dude. Like this is you don't deserve this. It's it's all the weirdness of Jaden Smith. That's right. Like captured into anime form.
Starting point is 01:18:40 Yeah. And it's like, it's like the only reason why he would voice it is if it was as weird as it is. And like, he's a terrible voice actor. And the awkwardness of his bad voice acting works because of how weird the show is being. But it's just like, who is this for? It's for Jaden Smith. And like, and it sounds like it's talking to it's trying to talk to
Starting point is 01:19:06 an audience of like young people that are like into I don't know, like fashion and and and and like high fashion and and and colognes and and and yeah, Toblerone's and just hipsterism, but not really hipsterism, like weird, like so ho hipsterism. I'm going to I'm going to butcher an old famous quote here for a point. Some men achieve greatness. Some men have greatness thrust upon them and other men have greatness
Starting point is 01:19:38 given to them as a birthday present by Will Smith, their dad. Right. It's like. I don't know who this is for you or you. Jaden Smith and you are looking at somebody who was just given the ability to be famous, right? Yeah. And they were just told. Yeah, you didn't do anything. But but here I do it and you know what, though, that is the part
Starting point is 01:20:02 that is probably like the hardest thing they have to deal with. And they're going to be spent and they that you want to spend your entire life trying to prove that you're not you know, I am talented. I can do my own shit. And you know what? Some people figure it out like fucking calling Hanks. Yeah, right. Or you know who that is calling Hanks is Tom Hanks's kid.
Starting point is 01:20:22 All right. He's an amazing actor. Oh, great. He does fucking awesome work for him. And then Tom Hanks has another kid. His name is Chad Hayes. Yeah. And he's a fucking white boy rapper. OK. And he's trying to he's trying to put his work out there. Yeah. And he's basically bless. I'm not Tom Hanks's son.
Starting point is 01:20:39 I'm Chad Hayes. I'm Chad Hayes. Are you? Yeah. All right. So, you know, it's it's all in what you do with it. The problem happens when your parents are like not just big actors or superstars. The problem is like, Dads Will Smith. Yeah. What do you think? What? Oh, I'm going to break out from my dad's legacy
Starting point is 01:21:00 of being the most loved man ever. Here's what I can say. Like, come on. Here's what I can say is in the weirdness of the character that is Jane Smith, because it's like it's like you're not a real person. Does he like look into a mirror and pluck his eyes out in this fucking anime or something like in the weirdness of the like you can almost see this being like in the way that it captures
Starting point is 01:21:23 everything that's weird about him, like this might be a piece for history. You know, this might be like like a looking glass piece going down the line because, you know, like Ziggy Stardust is kind of weird, too. Right. Yeah. And then that weirdness kind of becomes appreciated over time. Yeah. It might be like that. Yeah. Yeah. No. It's it's because you get the feeling that you're everyone. This is the anime that came out right before the revolution.
Starting point is 01:21:51 You're watching, you know, you're watching like something that feels like the boondocks sometimes and then you're waiting for like a boondocks punchline to kick in and then it doesn't just doesn't know. And then they then they make a joke about like like going to like a fashion show or the art style. And that is like the most baffling ass fucking weird ass shit I've seen because I saw clips right and all looks normal. And then I see a different clip and it's like a robot talking to a judge and I'm like who's vaping. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:16 And it's like the the fuck is this? Yeah. You know what, I'll tell you what, man, I don't need to know. OK. On this one, I don't need to know. Just take again, take take your take your watch and pretend you're watching the boondocks and more anime for sure. Oh, yeah. A little bit of FLCL sprinkles in there. Oh, don't even. It's just in terms of like, oh, you got a pink haired guy and a big robot
Starting point is 01:22:36 and then some other like like anime tropey shit, but like played up for fun because it's like Neo Yokeo. I don't get it. OK, so it's explained in like the first three seconds when they're like, yeah, there's areas of Neo Yokeo like the Bronx. And Manhattan. What? New York, Neo Yokey, Neo Tokyo, New York. But why? Neo. No, that's not that didn't explain anything to me.
Starting point is 01:23:07 Basically, the concept is fusing Neo Tokyo into New York. And that's why you get Neo Yokeo. That's why the name is stupid. But that's what the point that's stupid, man. It's New York and Neo and Neo Tokyo. That's it. That's the joke. Is it a joke? And not really. It sure is straight.
Starting point is 01:23:25 It sure is a joke. Pretty straight. That's what that's what it is. That's what the title is. That's why it's like that. That's all. And they have other fusion places. Oh, yeah. And then I forgot the other names, but anyway. So, yeah, anyway, the point I was going to say is I admit like you're waiting for your punchline and then you don't get one.
Starting point is 01:23:42 You just get quirkiness. And that's all it is, is like real, real, like, like hipsterish quirkiness. And I don't know what to do. And I need a Jaden Smith episode of the Boondocks. I don't know what to do with it. And Palette cleans this to figure it out. Yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 01:24:00 I don't know, but I can tell you one thing. Speaking of quirkiness. Speaking of quirkiness and quirks. Yes. Yes, I am. My ears perk up. I am quite, quite a ways in. Yeah. I knew it. I knew it.
Starting point is 01:24:20 You would come in and you'd be like. So I'm in there. I'm in there. I'm in there. Yeah. How in there are you? I'm still I'm still around like I'm still like it's it's less than 10. Get to 12 as fast. All right. Yeah. Yeah, it's less than 10, but I'm in there. My Hero Academia is a fantastic game.
Starting point is 01:24:40 Oh, don't you mean Boku? Boku no Hero Academia. Don't you mean Boku no My Hero Acca? I don't know why Hero Acca kind of this is a really is a really fun, three by three grade of like lawful good to chaotic evil versions of how to say the title. And it's really funny. It's really funny. Well, I mean, when you watch it, it's in English full screen.
Starting point is 01:25:07 My Hero Academia. This is not Attack on Titan, even level confusion. I pray to God that we will get every new anime with the English title above the top. Yes, they're doing that. Yeah, straight up ready for the West. They know. Yeah. Put put right on no confusion. It says it right by the way, I think it's also getting dubbed like super fast.
Starting point is 01:25:28 Of course, of course, like like not. It's dude, it is a Western hero inspired thing. Like it is made. So you're deep enough in that like those influences, like you probably appreciate them a lot more than I do. Oh, it's it's fun stuff. They're overt. But a lot of it is also like just wackiness with like, you know, like Japanese character designs and stuff. All right.
Starting point is 01:25:49 I think there's very little to say. Besides, it's a really fun shonen. Let's be real. Is all might the greatest or is he the greatest? I mean, it's pretty hard to hate all might. What I can say is I for I'd seen screenshots of. Yes, true, all might. Yes, we had. And you're like, who is that?
Starting point is 01:26:13 It's always the way. And it was it's interesting. It's interesting because you're always like, do you know, do you know, um, you know, I she'll 21. I'm vaguely familiar. There's a character in I shall 21. That's a cool version of that. Oh, yeah. And you're like, yeah, that's a he makes it work.
Starting point is 01:26:32 And then here you're like, oh, no, that's like, oh, dear. It's a character drawn with like a broken art style from a different show from entirely. Yeah. It's a weird one. But I love I love how your main character looks like a fucking goofball weirdo. Yeah. And he doesn't look like a like a visual novel protagonist. No, I really appreciate that.
Starting point is 01:26:55 Because he could have just been the offensive. He could have just been multi-blood main character. Yeah. Right. A fucking tono or whatever, like and and glasses or no glasses. But they really made him like a weirdo and I like that. There's little, little to say, besides so far, so good. I feel like that show has a really astonishingly strong moment very early.
Starting point is 01:27:21 So in the typical I'll watch three episodes before I decide to give it continue giving a shot like hero academia does extremely well in the second one. I didn't realize it was a two season thing, though. It's it's it's a shorter first season and a second longer season. The second longer season. So it's going to go up to 39, I think. OK, 41.
Starting point is 01:27:40 41 was what I saw. OK, then great. Because that means there's a four or five more episodes. But in the season anyway. But like how to put this? OK, I'm going to talk around this a little bit. But so in Naruto, which it's very easy to compare these two, they're the same story.
Starting point is 01:27:58 More or less, one's done a little bit better than the other. In Naruto, you have the kid. What's the kid got? Oh, he's got the Fox demon. Right? Yeah. That man, he's going to be tough. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:12 Man, you've got you've got the superpower in you. Right. All you got to do is use it. And every time that happens, like, oh, what a big asshole. Yeah. This has the straight up opposite of that. Yeah. Where every asshole results in catastrophe.
Starting point is 01:28:30 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I love it. Yeah. I love it. It is my which which is actually more in line with Epo. Yeah. I love the how they've both like empowered and depowered the main character in in everything because this is such
Starting point is 01:28:46 a screwed up. No. The handicap to get. Oh, yeah, yeah, the concept of consequences always forever is really fun. And I like that. They play with that in a bunch of interesting ways. And the only other thing I guess I could think of right now
Starting point is 01:29:02 is I fucking hate Bakugos outfit. His it's. It's so dumb. And it's upsetting how dumb it is. It's Grenade Man. He's a Mega Man villain. He's a Mega Man villain. And it's upsetting how dumb it is in contrast
Starting point is 01:29:17 with how awesome so many other characters are. So I'm going to put this out there. I haven't read any interviews about this. But I'm going to guess that the author is a massive fan of Mega Man. OK. Because a bunch of characters look like that. OK.
Starting point is 01:29:37 Uradakas, Gravity Girls fucking costume is Mega Man inspired as well. OK. There is a character later on who is literally yellow Mega Man. So it's either it's like it's either Mega Man or like Western Cape heroes, right? Like one or the other.
Starting point is 01:29:53 It's it's the point. But then there's anime dudes, too. Like like fucking wrapped up in in in in whatever that like their teacher. Isola. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's so on anime. So the way that I see it is that there's a lot of clashing art styles on a lot of the cast.
Starting point is 01:30:09 And the way that I can figure that it's like they're supposed to be from that kind of comic or that kind. It reminds me of Kill a Kill a little bit. I showed you a trigger. I showed you in a Matt fucking photos of Stain and Stain's an image comics spawn villain. Yeah. And then there's that little bubbly headed kid that just
Starting point is 01:30:27 like he's like a berry or whatever. Oh, fucking Mineta. I don't know what is everyone's shit ass punching bag. That little fuck. He looks like a completely different show. Oh, yeah, he looks like he's from some bubblegum fucking pop and a Barbera. Yeah, shit.
Starting point is 01:30:39 Yeah. So, you know, so anyway, all I can really say is like just I fucking hate that outfit so much, dude. It's the latest look at this Mega Man. That's a Mega Man. Yeah, that's straight up and that's an old Mega Man. Like the boots are the same. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:59 Yeah, it's it's it's no good that outfit. But God, what's his name? The nerd? Yeah, Eda. Eda is my favorite character. He's fucking rad. He's the best. He and his suits read and everything's right around him.
Starting point is 01:31:11 He's super cool. He's the best. Ah, he's the best guy. And he had a good sense of design because everyone got what they designed. Yeah. So it's like Eda had a good like our thing where it's like he planned out and give me jets.
Starting point is 01:31:23 Give me all because like because he talks about his family and then he it pans up to a shot of his family and they all have that type of design. I haven't they all look like Gundams. OK, I haven't seen that yet. And they all but they're all different. They all have helmets and they all look fucking great. And back it goes like something intimidating
Starting point is 01:31:39 and you just get this dumb fucking trapper keeper fucking design. I got big grenade hands because I'm a grenade boy. God. And they actually do things and you're like, God damn it. I actually really like that. Deku's costume is so hideous. It's really bad.
Starting point is 01:31:54 He's annoyed until he pulls the hood off. Yeah. And then he looks fine. Yeah, absolutely. I'm glad that they I'm glad it happens right away to spoiler. I don't think I've ever seen him put the hood back on. Nice. He always wears it on his back.
Starting point is 01:32:07 I can't wait because it's so ugly that I'm like, I'm like, please keep it off as much as possible. Anyway, I'm very interested to hear your ongoing thoughts on that, particularly next week. No, I think I just I think I just marathoned like eight straight and I'll keep going at that pace. There are so many problems that I feel like that's setting fixes.
Starting point is 01:32:28 Like it has a it has an extremely definitive power cap for all characters. Right. Like, hey, this guy can do this. What's the limit of that? It's this. Yeah, right, right, right. Nothing past that.
Starting point is 01:32:42 That's it. That's all. And that's just it. Hope they're smart. The yeah. And then, of course, you've got your, you know, and it's so typical in so many ways, like especially with like the main characters
Starting point is 01:32:53 useless until blah. Yeah, always the all. But then also, it's not just about that. Like, you know, because you have the cheat, but then you don't also just use the cheat. You've got your own thing. And there are there are a hundred different reasons and times and periods in which I can't do that.
Starting point is 01:33:11 Yeah, I can't cheat right now. But but can you be amazing without your superpower? Kind of Naruto slash gone slash it you go slash, you know, Goku slash. Yeah, like every no, actually. In a lot of cases, yeah, it's it's it's funny me funny because like, like just from sound effects only, like my girlfriend's like, have I seen this already?
Starting point is 01:33:37 And I'm like, no, it's like, I really feel like I have. And I'm like, congratulations. You now identify Shonen's as a whole. Yeah, because like she's like, OK, I because I don't want to sound ignorant. And just be like, it sounds like make Gundam noises. And I'm like, no, no, this is your look. You're hearing what a Shonen is.
Starting point is 01:33:54 Yeah. And then it cuts to the rock intro and it cuts to the soft outro and everything. Someone's throwing a punch. What's that sound? Is it a jet engine? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it only gets so where you're at is what I would sort of
Starting point is 01:34:10 like the setup and it it it substantially bumps up in quality. Like like if you went home and watched a bunch tonight, you would be like blown out your fucking eyeballs. Great. Cool. Oh, man. There's so many insert corrections about gone here because as soon as you say that name, there they come. So I spoke to Super Eye Patch Wolf cool a few days ago and was like, OK,
Starting point is 01:34:34 William and I were talking about some bullshit and he mentioned fucking reverse Super Saiyan. I heard people say reverse Super Saiyan and I know you're a big hunter, hunter nerd. That's how you say it, apparently. Yep. So what's what's the deal with God's reverse Super Saiyan? And he told you what it looks like. And you know what it looks like.
Starting point is 01:34:55 But I have I don't know what it actually is. Yeah. And he explained it to me and it's not called reverse Super Saiyan from a mechanic standpoint. It's called reverse Super Saiyan from a thematic. Yes. I don't know. I know. And that's why I know. And that's why I know it's like it's not obvious, but it's it's it's cool. Yeah, OK. But like.
Starting point is 01:35:14 It's cool. I'm willing to I'm willing to assume right here, right now that you only don't think it's that good because you haven't had the context for it. I'm fully willing to admit I can show you he put he gave me a. But you didn't have the build he gave me the proper context, but I didn't actually experience the and have no bill yet. So I think that's why you're feeling the way you are. I'm fully no willing to go now you did it the wrong way.
Starting point is 01:35:40 I actually have a better explanation. OK, so I still hate God's design. Yeah, OK, that's it. Because at the end of that transformation, he goes back to being the shittiest looking character the side of Luffy. Yeah, one piece of art sucks. It's a great it's a great story, but it's art sucks. All right, who's the worst looking show?
Starting point is 01:35:58 The protagonist who's the worst looking show the protagonist. OK, we are gone and Luffy there. They're up there. Um, they're strong. Hmm. OK, let's let's think. Let's think there's some bad ones out there for sure. Yeah, OK, wait, are we going into the trash? Are we just I don't know, because I feel like I feel like
Starting point is 01:36:17 Jaden Smith and Niyo Yoko. I like because I like Shaman King's main character a lot. I like his headphones and hair. I think he looks cool. God, I really dislike Luffy a whole bunch. What else is I think he looks very bad. I mean, I'm looking at the star of the front.
Starting point is 01:36:38 It's shown a jump right now. Yeah, I feel like because, you know, the problem is, is that like, obviously. Oh, I got it. Got it. Yeah, it's the worst one. Nice, nice, great. Uh, let's have a little think because I feel like I feel like you can go with what's the God, what's the one that looks exactly like it should go, but it's not.
Starting point is 01:37:00 It should go. He's got white hair. There's like a white hair to go that's not it. It's not fucking Seinfeld. Oh, the Meadow Meadow show. Yeah. Yeah. OK, that could be it. Shit.
Starting point is 01:37:15 That could be it. I know the name of that fucking show. Why can't I know the name of the show? What? You in time, huh? Yeah, it is there. He's fine. Yeah, he's got a clash in color with the black and the white.
Starting point is 01:37:27 OK, he lives in a goofy. We're just judging by covers right now, obviously, because I don't know what the things it's gone. It's gone. Gone is the worst. Gone is a reject from the Pokemon cartoon, which now looks great, by the way. Yeah. I don't know if you've seen it.
Starting point is 01:37:42 I think gone holding depends. It's gone holding the fishing fucking line or not, the fishing pole. If he's holding the fishing pole, then yeah. But like Luffy, but Luffy is meant is intentionally dumb looking, right? Yes. That's that's the point. Well, no, the problem is more so like Luffy actually fits in with one piece, just flying. The problem is that I think that I can't stand the weird exaggerated
Starting point is 01:38:04 like body types and faces in one piece. It's really extreme. It's and even even like this is so triggering and upsetting to everybody because everybody that has that goes through the content is like, no, I like these characters because I know what they're about. Like like and it's like, no, I just judging on our style. Here's the thing. I like Luffy. Yeah, I really do.
Starting point is 01:38:26 I think he's great. I say, hey, how he looks. I think the straw hat works. But I like one piece looks like Future Anime Popeye. And I don't like it. I think it looks like shit. And I think there's a lot of characters that are played to be cool who don't look cool in the art style.
Starting point is 01:38:45 It works great for fucking goofball nonsense. But like you look at Nami in like the fucking new art and her body is like deformed. It looks like shit. She's like a human hourglass. I think anything clamp is probably horrifying. Clamp? Clamp, like X99. I don't know what that is.
Starting point is 01:39:08 Oh, you do with the Dragons of Heaven, Dragons of Earth and Kamui and then the fucking Fuma. And then the fuck are you talking about? Oh, come on. You never, you never heard of the anime movie called X? No, no. Or the TV series? No. And Matt and I like laughing it all the time. Yeah, I can't turn my.
Starting point is 01:39:24 And the main character is basically like a Roswell alien because Al Clamp draws is like 14 head high freaks. Oh, these look super super weird and gross looking. Why are they so tall? They also drew the people from Code Geass. OK, I don't know that one either. But it's the same people. And it's why they all look super weird.
Starting point is 01:39:43 Yeah, but I don't know that. OK, you know what? I say Clamp is the worst for me because they scare me. That's fine. Clamp characters scare me. So I'm going to say I'm going to say either Code Geass or X. I haven't seen Code Geass. Also, you know what my other problem with Luffy is? Yeah, look at Ace.
Starting point is 01:39:56 Ace is like a regular human being. Yeah, yeah. Who looks hot? Luffy's yeah, Luffy's weird for on purpose because he's rubber, but still. Anyway, I'll have more to say on yes, you will. I'm the hero, Akka's Bokuno, my hero, Akka. There's some winners in that supporting cast.
Starting point is 01:40:15 I haven't really met them yet, but I've seen them talking. I just haven't had gotten names. Just there's a cool guy that keeps talking about manliness. And I'm like, oh, fucking I don't we haven't been given a name yet. But the red guy. He seems kind of interesting. He's great. Yeah. He's that guy.
Starting point is 01:40:30 Yeah, that's all we know so far, you know, so we'll figure it out. How do you feel about frogs? Oh, I like frog girl. There you go. I'm guess what? Yeah, good. Because because she's the she's the most popular character. She's she's the Hinata.
Starting point is 01:40:46 No, she's the. Sasuke, like, no, she's just the most like she's the beloved character. Everybody loves you. Also, besides costume, back ago is also a fucking moron. Yeah, like it's like why? Like and like every time they go back to show you why he's so tilted. Yeah, it's like, oh, you're just dumber than you even look. No, it's like you tried to help me once.
Starting point is 01:41:11 But yeah, it's like and but it's infinitely better than Sasuke. So here's the thing. He is supposed to be Sasuke. He is absolutely your Sasuke insert. Yeah, but it is a Sasuke that would have to actually, I don't know, Sasuke just would brood and leave. And it was like really infuriating. Whereas in a hero at academia, where like back goes like a cunt
Starting point is 01:41:33 and everyone's like, stop being a cunt, stop it. And his teachers are like, you have behavioral problems. Stop it. And he's like, no. Well, you're basically a supervillain in a world where you're allowed to apply to be a superhero. Yeah, so you can. It's a job. It's a thing on your job description.
Starting point is 01:41:50 What do you do? I'm a hero. Yeah, OK, that's what they pay you. They act. That's one of the more like that's currently what the the show is dealing with where I'm at is like the distinction between heroism as a trait and heroism as a job. Yeah, and how and how they are and how they are not the same. That's awesome. I'm glad it goes into that because the way they were like, yep,
Starting point is 01:42:12 you go to school, you fill up the paperwork and now you're part of the thing. I'm like, that's that means you end up with people on one extreme of that spectrum or another. Yeah, for sure. And I mean, that's basically some of what One Punch Man was about. Yeah, which is a fun as topic. So I'd love to go into that. That's really cool.
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Starting point is 01:45:34 Now we're both doing it. By the way, I want to give a big shout out to who animated that? Jordan Welty. He did a good goddamn job. Damn straight he did. The shit that he hid in those patch notes is my particular favorite. You talking about Woolly versus God? Yes, thank you.
Starting point is 01:45:53 Good name. Real good name. I'm a fan. I have a strong suspicion you may in fact have more material for that in the future. It's almost as if the naming convention was based on somehow being able to create more episodes. It's possible. How about that?
Starting point is 01:46:11 You know what you should do, right? What? You should just go videotape yourself arguing with your mom. Use the audio footage and then just animate this. Oh, my God. Wow. Wow. Yeah, that would be.
Starting point is 01:46:27 Wow. Oh, my God. That's only if you know what you're messing with. Of course. And with this, I have fully committed to the. All right. Nope. Fam can't watch the channel.
Starting point is 01:46:40 Oh, yeah. No. No, no, not for you. You know, every single time, by the way, we're talking about a little short animated feature on Wally versus right now, every single time if you haven't seen it, it's very fine. That me and my girlfriend are on stream and make some kind of horrible creepy sex or abortion joke or something like that, you know, or like a domestic abuse. I'll beat you in the back of my mind.
Starting point is 01:47:05 I'm like, both of our parents occasionally watch the stream. And then occasionally they'll be like, mm. So put that in your like. Yep. sequel series, Wally versus mom coming soon. It's just modded binding of Isaac. Someone's already did that. I know someone's already did that.
Starting point is 01:47:31 Change the name of that mod and you're done. Change the name of that mod and you're done. Today in the news. What's up in the news? I want to hear some news. The entire human. Oh, God, what the fuck is the human? Damn it.
Starting point is 01:47:54 You're doing it, buddy. You had this whole setup and the eyes and ears are on you today in the news. The entire human consciousness is willing its own end. Did I think I met that wrong? I know you. You're a dingo. The human consciousness is willing its own end. Sure.
Starting point is 01:48:16 Whatever. No man. Do you know how many of my comrades died back there? He gets the original burn up get shot moment is the end of the Zoe to trailer because like in the mid sentence, he gets shot in the fucking cut. Like four or five times. Bam, bam, bam. There's blood shooting in the zero G.
Starting point is 01:48:43 He gets burn it up super hard man. Oh man. That moment's great. Where you fucking confront the villain face to face. Right. He's like, Hey man, you're fucking asshole. And he just pulls out a gun and just ends you. Like cuz he's the villain before again before the Eric Andre show me and shmup God Pat used
Starting point is 01:49:08 to die laughing like pretending to do that bit where you're just, do you know me and my comrades died back. Oh, no. Oh, I didn't think he'd shoot me. So like, all right. Gotta coagulate the blood. I'm going to tell people right now, just in case the B roll slash opening cinematic slash final trailer for Zoe Anders to the second runner runner is maybe Kojima's best
Starting point is 01:49:42 trailer ever. It's really strong that is unfortunately a little bit knee capped by the terrible English voice acting on display. You're crazy. I love the voice acting. It's so bad. It's metal gear solid to all over again. It's not.
Starting point is 01:49:57 No, it's way worse. I love it. You're crazy. I love it. Well, why are you talking about zone of the enders? Because zone of the enders, the second runners VR wait, flip it upside down. Mars was announced at TGS and it is going to be a basically port to 4k PS4 and PC. But they're also like saying that this is more than an overhaul of the already existing
Starting point is 01:50:26 overhaul that is HD. This is a proper upgrade to port to 4k with post effects, remastered audio and VR support. So. Oh man, I didn't see that fucking. Oh man, that's a good line. And J-Hooty lives and their Anubis thrive. Oh man. Anubis is my favorite of those types of antagonists.
Starting point is 01:50:54 He's the same but better. Yeah, it's a really strong one. It's the Anubis orbital frame is very similar to your character's J-Hooty's orbital frame in that it is the same basic spec. It's the same type of orbital frame, but it's better and it's so much better. And the pilot is better and it's just the best. I'm interested to see the VR functions. I'm afraid of the VR functions.
Starting point is 01:51:25 That game moves fast. I don't think they're going to fucking make you out of the cockpit. I don't think they're going to make you a borf. If you can't be in the cockpit. I think they're going to. But having a 4k version of that game with remastered effects. Yeah. I would say that Zoey 2 is fighting Okami for best looking PS2 game.
Starting point is 01:51:53 I think Okami wins by getting its version of its port. I think the Okami port is the best looking PS2 game. I don't think you can argue that. So let's see if we can have that fight again. Because the art style of Okami, the cell shading, means it looks more perfect in its element than Zoey ever can. Yeah. Zoey and Okami were neck and neck during the PS2 era, but increasing their resolution helps Okami more than it helps Zoey. Like these lighting effects are looking super sharp, but they will never look at the level that I don't know Resogun is at now.
Starting point is 01:52:30 At the end of the day, you're still limited by that. And Okami is like, no, this can look more like a painting. We can do it. Yeah. That being said, like, you know, normally, you know, re-releases and stuff like that. It's not big news. This is big and fucking news. Zoey and the Enders 2 is one of the greatest games ever made. It's astonishing. It's also the most improved sequel to anything ever. Because Zoey 1 is average.
Starting point is 01:52:55 It's a fucking test. It's not even a real game. It's the demo to see if they could make this. I remember a lot of people got really, when this guy asked, it was very confusing and people thought it was going to be Zoey and the Enders 1. And no one cared. And then it was confirmed to be 2 and everyone, yeah! Someone tweeted at us saying like, or sent a message somewhere going basically, I don't get it. You guys always talk about Zoey and the Enders. And when the fuck does it get good? I've been playing it for the last hour or two.
Starting point is 01:53:24 Oh man! It's boring and terrible. And everyone's like, are you playing part 2? And he's like, what? And you're like, ahhh. Understandable mistake. Anyway. Did you know that because of Inherts, that Zone of the Enders takes place in the SMT universe?
Starting point is 01:53:46 Did you know that you've been selected for Project Almon? What would you do? If you were fucking locked in the cockpit of a badass Super Six Future robot, I'd be down. Oh, I can't leave it? Oh well. Like, Ada, you got me? You got me? You got me what I need? Yeah, alright, let's do this. Walk me through it, Ada. Alright, there. Fixed it.
Starting point is 01:54:13 Oh man, Vic fucking Viper is so cool. There's so many parts of that game that are the coolest. One of which is the returning of the... Vic Viper gets to be iconic. The iconic Vic Viper from Gradius. God damn it! It is first person. I just saw the VR thing in the trailer. It is actually first person. Well, it's like you're piloting first person. You can't zero shift in first person.
Starting point is 01:54:40 But it's not full levels. It's certain moments. Oh, it's certain moments. It's certain moments. Firing the vector cannon, stuff like that. All the good stuff I imagine. Like, okay, let's think about this. Best reuse of an existing character slash mech in the Vic Viper ever? Yes.
Starting point is 01:55:00 Best weapon startup slash firing sequence in anything ever with the vector cannon? Yes. Best mecha design of all time? Best mecha designs of all time. Best large scale battle against the giant force? Right? Yeah, best voice acting ever. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:55:21 Dude, like any re-release of Zoey is an excuse for us to just go on a ramp. And hey, the fact that they're... I was about to say, hey, maybe we'll get a Zoey 3. And then I'm like, wait, why would I even care anymore? No one who made that game special works there anymore. You know, I'm really, like, happy that like Okami, this keeps getting up ported so that no generation of children will miss it. Like, it's getting a PC release.
Starting point is 01:55:50 Like, every... People will fight to keep that release alive forever. All you stupid new-chilled new stupid babies that don't know nothing are constantly being introduced to fucking J-HooTee, and that makes my day. You know how people are like, I'm gonna make my kids play Mario 3 because that's a classic. Fuck that, make your kids play Zoey 2. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. And, uh, uh, uh...
Starting point is 01:56:12 Man, that Mecha Week video we did was the stupidest. He also shows up in Bomberman, I think. There's like a new little Chibi J-HooTee form. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's super cool. There's like a fun Chibi J-HooTee. Mind your existing properties. Mind them.
Starting point is 01:56:33 Let's see if I can show you it. It is... Oh, that's adorable. Which one was it? Ah, we're wasting time. Yeah, that's fine, all right, all right, all right. J-HooTee's great. Anubis is better.
Starting point is 01:56:49 It's fun. Um, I disagree, but... You know what I never know just about Anubis until I saw the art side by side? Anubis is much smaller. But it has the tail and the wings, so it seems... It's frame, its body is much, much, much smaller. But because of the wings and the tail and the staff, it looks like twice as big. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:08 It's such a cool design. I like J-HooTee better. That's fine. Exactly. That's a good second pick. Yeah, exactly. It's like, that's like, that's like when me and, uh, me and, uh, Shrempe got backward, like, arguing. I didn't even argue, but he's like, man, Dante's the best.
Starting point is 01:57:20 I'm like, nah, man, Virgil's the best. And he's like, okay. Yeah. That's good. That's a good choice. That's fine. Oh, okay. I want this steak.
Starting point is 01:57:29 No, I want this steak. Um, but that's not the only game where you can control a robot. You tried. Let's see it. There's a certain magical virtual on, which now has gameplay. The fucking what? So we can explain sort of maybe what this is. All right.
Starting point is 01:57:50 I talked about it a little bit before. Wait, the name is a certain magical virtual on? Yes. That's weird. So let me reintroduce this to you because we've already been over this. Okay. So a certain magical index is a visual novel series. All right.
Starting point is 01:58:03 Virtual on is a mecha robot combat series. And together they make a new series called a certain magic virtual on. All right. And so the mechs are sort of, it seems like they're piloted by these V visual novel characters. Okay. But it's a new virtual on game at the end of the day. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:19 It's a new virtual on game and it has a big large single player campaign. And now like there's just like cut ins to anime happening while you do your stuff, which I can get used to. That's fine. Right. And if that doesn't cut it for you, I believe in Yakuza Kwame too. You can just play virtual on in the actual game. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:41 Yeah. There you go. So virtual on is coming back in this super weird way. Virtual on refuses to die. It refuses. That's another series that I had a game on. Yeah, man. What second?
Starting point is 01:58:54 No. What are you talking about? What? Sorry. What'd you say? I said Sega. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:02 Yeah. Yeah. Hey, Sega. Remember the robot voice in the beginning? It goes Sega. And then it goes hit maker. Hey, Sega. Maybe you want to keep your old fighting game franchises alive.
Starting point is 01:59:12 Right. Excuse me. Not visual novel. It's a light novel series. Gotta make the distinction. Light novels are just novellas, right? Yeah. I don't want a light novel.
Starting point is 01:59:23 Yeah, I think it's... They all appear to be trash. I assume. I think it's a light novel, yes. It's a novella. It's a small one. So I heard light novel originally for reference to Sword Art Online. It's from some book shit.
Starting point is 01:59:34 I thought... Some book shit is mixing with virtual on. Oh, man. That's all that matters. Anime's infecting books now. Fuck. Isn't there any... I hate anime so much.
Starting point is 01:59:47 I can't wait to watch more of it. Go back and read... Cape. Cape. Just fucking do it. Whatever you say it. Copacabana? What?
Starting point is 01:59:57 Cape can... I don't remember. I don't know. What is it called? The fuck you talking about? Resident Evil. Oh. Oh.
Starting point is 02:00:06 Calibin Co. Calibin Co. Thank you. Oh, that's... Dude. That is... That would be straight up an entertaining read for even you because it is so bad. It is like the worst.
Starting point is 02:00:18 I have a copy sitting on my bookshelf. You could have it. I don't. I don't. But there's more games where you can use robots. I like that. Even more. Get me.
Starting point is 02:00:31 This one is called Jettomero. Hero of the Universe. Oh, that's cool. That looks cool. And this looks... Where are you going to do the quirky? This quirky little weird game. So basically there's these little catamari planets like Le Petit Prince.
Starting point is 02:00:43 And then you're this giant like dumb red robot. And you're super... That's a super giant dumb red robot. And you're trying to help save the world by like destroying the giant other robot slash alien invaders. But the problem is that you're so big that you're destroying the city in the process. So you have to try and do the least amount of damage to the planet as possible. That's a cool idea. While saving it.
Starting point is 02:01:05 And you're stupid and you're huge and you're dumb and you can barely walk. You're like an ugly iron giant. Yeah. You look like a big dumb hot dog. It's like if they turned you into a robot. Oh, wow. And then you've got to fly to the next planet and then fight and do it. Do not wreck the whole planet.
Starting point is 02:01:20 Yeah. And that's Jettomaro. Yeah. Looks cool. It does look cool. So, yeah, I think... What is this coming to? Let's investigate.
Starting point is 02:01:36 Jettomaro. I don't know if I... Steam, I assume it's Steam. Xbox One and Steam. There you go. So, cute. Do you got left alive in there? That's where I was going next, baby.
Starting point is 02:01:51 Because we have... Speaking of a... We have... We're on a combo right now. We can keep it going. Speaking of... In which a game in which you should be able to control giant robots. But you possibly won't be able to.
Starting point is 02:02:03 But you don't. Dude, don't turn good news into bad news. Because this is to me... Okay, well, we're going to have an argument. This is to me very exciting that we're even going. Yeah, Nosgoth's really exciting. We don't know yet. We don't know yet.
Starting point is 02:02:23 Did you play Front Mission Evolved? No. Yeah, you didn't. Square Enix has announced a new game called Left Alive. And Left Alive is what appears to be a survival action game taking place within the Front Mission Universe. So, that sounds awesome. So, I want to point out, like, when it originally... Like, honestly, it was just a little teaser trailer.
Starting point is 02:02:46 It wasn't very clear as to what it actually was. But only, like, old Front Mission fans were able to tell. Like, because there's a shot of... It's just a blown-up city. And there's a shot of two of those quadricopters coming in and dropping mechs off. And anybody who played those games goes, Okay, well, that's... Those are woncers, right?
Starting point is 02:03:04 That's how they drop those off. So it's like, okay, it's a Front Mission game. And then, like, when you said it appears to be... It's like, no, they've said it is a straight-up a survival action game. Yes. And there are foot-tons of woncers walking around in these screenshots. But it appears that you will be spending most of your time... On foot.
Starting point is 02:03:22 On foot. Walking around. And you will occasionally ride and or deal with woncers. Yes. Now, apparently how you're supposed to say it, I don't know. I would be incredibly surprised if there isn't an extensive piloting system in the game where you straight up control it. Oh, of course.
Starting point is 02:03:42 It might even be like the final sequence. At which point you're now playing a 3D Front Mission action game. Yeah, guess what? There is a 3D Front Mission action game and it sucks. Okay. It's called Front Mission Evolved. It was also made by Square Enix. Okay.
Starting point is 02:03:55 This is specifically taking place between five and Evolved, which means not three. Okay, hold on. It's said between five and Evolved? Yes. Five takes place over the whole timeline. Wow. That's really... That could be anywhere.
Starting point is 02:04:10 Okay. Because five starts before Front Mission 1 and ends after four, I think. Oh, Jesus. Okay, it's one of those situations. That's why we never got it. Okay. Because it's directly related to events in games that we never got. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:24 So the story makes no sense to us. I see. Well, no. What it is, it's straight up says it's taking place between those games. Well, I mean, it'd be the USN versus the OCU with maybe the DHZ, but... I guess it's wherever five leaves off then and wherever Evolved picks up. But... Listen, Shinkawa's art on this game looks great, right?
Starting point is 02:04:47 And the screens that have come out... Let's be real. It looks a lot like Metal Gear 5. It looks a lot like the camera, the way the characters look, the way the mechs design, the way the light reflects off the Vonsers looks like Metal Gear. Just because you don't pilot a mech doesn't mean you can't have fun with mechs in your game. Solid Snake.
Starting point is 02:05:11 I really, really miss Front Mission. Yeah. A lot. Yeah. And I've missed it since three. Yeah. Because four is not good and we never got five. And it is...
Starting point is 02:05:25 This will probably be fine, though I do have some concerns because it's stage based. It's like levels. We need to see... That's weird. A trailer. Yeah. And know what we're dealing with. But right now...
Starting point is 02:05:36 It is... Screenshots of dudes walking around with Vonsers or Vonsers like doing their thing and some of them are destroyed and hanging out is cool to me. And I think a side story that takes place on foot in a world that's about usually in a tactical RPG world is super interesting. I'd never in a million years expect that to happen. I would be a lot more interested in this if... Do you remember...
Starting point is 02:06:05 Do you remember... Here's a really good example. In fact, it's almost exactly the exact same example. Do you remember when XCOM the Bureau got announced? No. Okay, XCOM the Bureau got announced and it was... See, that's the best part about the story. XCOM the Bureau got announced and it was a first person shooter that took place prior
Starting point is 02:06:27 to the events of the original XCOM where aliens that were like black goo came down and it was a team focus. It was in like the 40s. Like it was very, very old fashioned looking. It was genuinely interesting. And it ended up getting delayed and reworked and came out to be mediocre. However, when it got announced, everyone was like, this is my new XCOM game. I've been waiting for a new XCOM game since 96.
Starting point is 02:06:52 Right, right, right. And this fucking shooter... Likes it, yeah. Is my XCOM game? Syndicate. Yeah. Or... Yeah, this is actually before Syndicate.
Starting point is 02:07:02 So it started that thing and everyone's like, oh, come on, that's not XCOM. And then in reaction to that, whoever owns XCOM or whoever's announced that it's like, don't worry everyone, we're also making this throwback game called XCOM Enemy Unknown. Oh, you mean like the Syndicate throwback game that came out as well? Yeah. Yeah, but at the exact same time. See, we're making this lower budget, but you know, AAA strategy game for you guys. Bray on a commando.
Starting point is 02:07:34 I armed. What happened was XCOM Enemy Unknown actually came out way before the Bureau because of delays and issues and XCOM Enemy Unknown was like, game of the year at a bunch of places. And that game is fantastic. And then Bureau came out and just right. So I feel very similar to this as old XCOM fans up to that. It's like, there's two. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:00 I'm looking for a new good front mission either since 99 or 2004, whichever you prefer, because you know, Front Mission 4 came out, but Front Mission 4 is bad. I signed up to a Square Enix mailing list and they sent me a demo disc for Front Mission 4 to my house. That's how in the front mission I was. And then, oh, look at that. It sucks. The link system and the lower character.
Starting point is 02:08:24 It's fucking sucks. So I look at this and it's like, I am aware this is probably good, but I can't hoping or hoping it will probably be good. And then there's reason because I can feel nothing but disappointment. Okay. What if the game starts? I also don't trust Square Enix to make a shooter. And then you go back and then like your main character walks into a room and then he goes,
Starting point is 02:08:47 Hey, Kazuki. Hey, Ryogo. How's it going? And here's, and here's the thing where I might be the crazy one on this, right? I actually really like the story of Front Mission. I think it's genuinely interesting in political intrigue and stuff like that. The individual characters aren't nearly as important as the big shifts, right? Okay.
Starting point is 02:09:11 Like Kazuki and Elisa and Emma. But they're all fairly well written. They're all fine. Yeah, they're pretty good characters. But you know what's actually more interesting? The fact that, you know, O.C.'s fucking the O.C.U. or the U.S.N. or they're interfering in the D.H.Z.'s fucking space. And you know, the macro political thing.
Starting point is 02:09:29 The Gundam stuff. Is actually more interesting to me. And the turn-based, like if you could take every, you could do a function versus function of Front Mission with just the gameplay and I would love it. So like the idea of like you'll be on boots on the ground in the Front Mission universe. Like that's nice. I'd actually rather be behind a laptop in the Front Mission universe. Reading dumb shit on the fucking Curishima Heavy Industries website.
Starting point is 02:09:57 On the internet, yeah. There's no, you're going to get, you're going to pilot for sure. There's no way you're not going to. Well, they said there's riding sections. And riding in Alphonsor is not like riding on its shoulder. It's piloting. Right, right, right. And yeah, Yoji's on it.
Starting point is 02:10:11 So, you know, it's going to look good. I think his art for the game looks a lot better than the actual in-game, realizational art for this one. Welcome to everything Yoji has done. I don't know, I felt like some Metal Gear games like got pretty close. Like five and three. Where, where what? Where his art was not better than the actual art.
Starting point is 02:10:31 Oh, it was better, but like. Like that's never happened. But like that the models at least like evoked the art in some way. Until he's working on something that is like designed to look like. Okami or so. Yeah. You're done. You know, there's no way you can make that live up to his art.
Starting point is 02:10:51 Okay. That's a lot of mecha news. And that's that's that's the end of the mecha corner. There's some other stuff. I like robots. Let's let's put robots aside. I really like robots, especially robots. What now?
Starting point is 02:11:05 Robots. That's real battle. Yeah. Metabots. Stupid. All right. Hey, you know what's cool? No.
Starting point is 02:11:20 I think this is pretty cool. Yeah. I don't know. So. Monster Hunter. I honestly don't know. Well, here's why I think this is cool. Monster Hunter Stories is getting Legend of Zelda DLC.
Starting point is 02:11:30 Right. Yeah. So you got Capcom Strider stuff. And now further the other Monster Hunter thing. And now Monster Hunter Stories is getting a link outfit, Epona and little cat thing on your back. Yep. Is rocking the Majora's Mask. Yep.
Starting point is 02:11:45 And Palico. Okay. Because they're cats, but they're your pal. I happen to just really, really like the look of this link because I think. Yeah, it looks good. I think it's the main character just wearing link stuff. Right. So for some reason it creates a new link that looks like in between like adult and child
Starting point is 02:12:06 link in a way, like slightly older child link. And you're like half-tune, half-tune. It's a mixture of a lot of things. Monster Hunter Stories looks really good. And it's not only that, but it's a young link wearing. Is it good? I don't even know. It's a young link wearing adult links outfit with the white sleeves and like grown-up Epona.
Starting point is 02:12:24 And I just like the look of that link. I don't know what to tell you. I think it looks pretty cool. Hey, you know what you... Oh, September 28th? That's in a couple of days. It's coming out like soon. Oh, that's decent reviews.
Starting point is 02:12:36 How about that? You know what you... Yeah, teen link. It's a teen link. You know, that DLC thing, you want to play as Link, maybe you should play that. And then you learn about monsters. Kill, kill that Rathos or whatever the fuck. God damn it, dude.
Starting point is 02:12:50 You can't even get one. Rathah? Yeah. Ratholos. Okay, well... Don't you want to fuck up a Tigrex, man? They're dicks. They yell loud.
Starting point is 02:13:00 I mean, everything just looks like a level three, like a rather like a third evolution Pokemon. Oh, yeah. No, absolutely. The art style of fucking stories is way out there compared to anything in the main series. So all these monsters they're fighting are cuter versions of... Actually, the one that you just saw called Arzuros, that one looks pretty much identical to that. Like it's art style translated very accurately. But the main difference is like the sizes of all the monsters are like much, much smaller
Starting point is 02:13:27 and they're less intimidating. I'll say this much. Monster Hunter and DLC is like... They get some fun choices in there. One of the more interesting things about World that they're not talking about yet, because you must be familiar with that Monster Hunter uses the old Capcom release schedule of Base Game and then Expansion Game later on. But with a console game like that, and so like it would make a lot more sense for G rank
Starting point is 02:13:53 and stuff like that to be DLC, especially since like brand new assets, guess what that means. The X has like 99 monsters. World is likely going to have 30-ish. So I'm very interested to see if they're going to keep up their type of DLC where free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free, free. Big thing that you pay for. That would be nice, you know? And speaking of Monster Hunter and DLC, we've got the trailer for the obvious. Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite showed off the Monster Hunter girl
Starting point is 02:14:27 and congratulations, this character looks like the entire budget of the game put into one character. Yeah, so we're going to talk about Infinite a little bit, because this character trailer and the character videos and people putting out bears legitimate discussion. Okay, so you don't know almost anything about Monster Hunter, right? No. But you can tell at a glance that they actually put a lot of love into this character's moveset. It is absurd how much is going on with the character. It's between how many weapons she's switching between, between how much she's wearing.
Starting point is 02:14:59 Every single one of those swings probably is a swing. It's like the first time you saw Dante. Yes, it is exactly like that. And you go, oh my god, they gave him everything? And it's like, yes, we gave him everything. So you see that? The armored sword swing? Yeah, that's something she doesn't currently have in existing games, but will have in world. Soon, okay.
Starting point is 02:15:21 Like, it's kind of insane because, yeah, the first time you saw Dante in Marvel 3, it was a moment because you, like, it was like, holy shit. They can never live up to what this character can do, right? Dante does too much. And it's like, oh, no, they did all of it. And so for... We gave him 80 moves. And so for the Monster Hunter, they gave her the great sword, the dual blades and the bow, which are more weapons than I expected her to have. And she has all sorts of shit.
Starting point is 02:15:50 She has her power shots for the bow. She has a command roll that works like Monster Hunter, right? That super that she does, it's called the Demon Dance, where she puts the two swords around. When she's glowing like that, as long as she keeps her stamina, she gets a superior dash, which she retains in Marvel Infinite. And there's a really good roll forward and back that she has, like, commanding things. And during her fucking super, where she plants the bomb, you know, that one? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And she does, like, a huge, long Superman dive?
Starting point is 02:16:18 That's the invincible Superman dive when you're running away from damage. Just like so much work put into this character. Now, you're saying that not only like her armor, but like even the face and model are like... Yeah, she looks just like a Monster Hunter 3 character. With these exact hairstyles that you can do to make that. That looks like a character you can make. You can make, okay. And so we're using the Golden Blade and the Brachydios, dual swords and the fucking Tigricks, like, bow.
Starting point is 02:16:41 And you can tell them at a glance. And so, hey, Woolly, here's how much detail has gone into that character compared to the rest of the cast. You know that at the end of her dual sword combo, there's an explosion? I didn't notice, but sure. Okay, so at the end of her dual sword level one super, she does a big slash and there's an explosion. Yeah. The reason for that is, is because the dual sword she's using have the slime attribute, and slime builds up on a monster until it explodes after enough hits.
Starting point is 02:17:04 Wow. So she's building up and it goes from green to orange to red, and then it hits red, and she does the big final slash, and that's why there's an explosion. Why is there so much? So I love this character. This is a great fucking character. Why is there so much work put into this, and not other cast? Why is there so much work put into Abigail, Minot, and Ed?
Starting point is 02:17:28 It's weird. It's weird, dude. Compared to the main game. It's weird. It's almost like it's being built by someone else. She is so far advanced in vision. Like, her textures are better on the model. Her model is more detailed.
Starting point is 02:17:43 Now the question is, is this a preemptive sort of, oh fuck, we gotta make up for it. Right? It could be, but I'll stand by the statement I've made, and I forgot to say earlier in the show, but I said every other time, is that I think the state of infinite will be saved by the DLC. And when I say that, I mean by the end of all the DLC, when every character is out, there will be enough interesting things going on with the game that you would have treated it like any other interesting release.
Starting point is 02:18:16 I think that the fact that a lot of that's gonna be DLC is gonna hurt it. Oh, it will, because people are gonna have to shell out for either the season pass or whatever. I'm gonna wait until it's completely done to get it, but if she was part of the base roster, I'd be playing the game right now. Because here's the other part about her now, that besides all that crazy shit you just talked about, she has more moves than almost anyone besides Dante. She has, I think, five supers.
Starting point is 02:18:40 Oh, yeah. And it's like no one has that level of options or whatever, and they just put so much into making her a faithful character that if that's an indication of where you're planning to go. Because here's the thing, I theory-crafted this character like five years ago, right, when Marvel 3 was out or whenever. I'm talking of some friends, I'm like, okay, let's say they make a Monster Hunter character because we want a Monster Hunter character. What would they do?
Starting point is 02:19:05 Well, first problem is what weapon do you give them? They solve that fucking problem. All of them. Three, 14, but still, that's a lot, right? And they're different types. There's a fast one, slow one, and a range one. Yeah. Okay, well, what would their supers be?
Starting point is 02:19:17 It's like, oh, well, just give them five. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Well, how would you put the weirder stuff, like the barrel bombs in? Well, I guess you'd make a super that incorporates them. It's so impressive as to be disappointing. It's so weird.
Starting point is 02:19:36 This is the KOF 12, and there's a 13 on the horizon. On the horizon. Please look forward to Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom. Yeah, I guess. This is a weird name or whatever it would be called. Marvel vs Capcom. Double infinite. Infinity.
Starting point is 02:19:51 Infinity plus one. Marvel vs Capcom plus Ultra. Plus Ultra. And of course, she's wearing the Rathalos set. Because that's the most famous set. The Rathalos is the final boss of Monster Hunter 1. Cool. So she's new game plus.
Starting point is 02:20:12 No, but what it means is that he's the flagship of the series instead of any particular game. And they went with the Lady Monster Hunter probably because there's a few chicks on the cast, but also the male version of that armor covers the face. Yeah. It has a really cool visor. So that's a really nice thing. And I hope you can keep it up. You know what, Willie?
Starting point is 02:20:38 I got something else for you. Her alternate colors. Her player two color? Are different suits of armor? No. Her player two color is that in Turk wise? Or Azure? Sure.
Starting point is 02:20:52 Guess what? That's the Azure Rathalos set. It's a subspecies. That's another idea. It's a tougher. So like... Down to that. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:21:00 Like fuck. You know? Or... So much there. So you know what it also could be is that whoever, someone on the team is the biggest Monster Hunter mark in the world. You mean at Capcom? Yeah. Someone in there?
Starting point is 02:21:12 Yeah. Because in the same way that it's like Utsuno's the biggest DMC mark. And that's why like everything from DMC3 is like done with so much love. Yeah. Could be that. Could be. I hear Capcom might have a Monster Hunter fan or two. I believe.
Starting point is 02:21:27 Could you imagine? I'm crazy. You know what else is... So what else we got going on is basically Summer Lesson 3 being announced. Summer Lesson 3. Chisato Shinjo. She's the... AKA the huge bitch chapter.
Starting point is 02:21:43 The rich bitch. So it's like we've done the meek Japanese school girl. And we've done the western blonde America Jin. Now it's time to go back to Japan but she lives in a big western mansion and she's a huge asshole. And she laughs like this. Yeah. She talks mad shit and while tending to her selfishness players will get a taste of more
Starting point is 02:22:16 surprising experiences and mysterious feelings than ever before. So I read a breakdown of somebody playing this DLC or whatever the fuck it is and they described it as legitimately terrifying because so the other two characters you are the game is like maybe you're going to get into their space a little bit or maybe they'll get a little closer to you. This character like aggressively invades your space in a way that's like explicitly supposed to be uncomfortable. And her gimmick, her thing that she likes to do because she's bored and she does magic
Starting point is 02:22:55 but she does like sword tricks. So she goes to like stab you and then like I didn't stab you. But like from way too close. So yeah it's super freaky. Chisato is an Onizuka case. She's a GTO student that you'd have to go in and help save from herself because you've got to hang out with the Gundam nerds for this field trip. Because she fucking likes fucking with her teachers and putting them on edge and making
Starting point is 02:23:24 them uncomfortable. Which sure that's a third way to go after we've done the other two. Are you ready for fucking VR like Dom? I don't know. Does she make you lie on the floor and then she stabs on you? Step on your face VR foot on face. We haven't done that yet. What's that other company that does that for real though?
Starting point is 02:23:51 I don't know. Those games seem more honest. I mean you know what you're buying. Oh Illusionsoft? No, is that him? Yeah, I think you're talking about. There's a company that makes summer lesson but it's porn. Oh, oh yeah.
Starting point is 02:24:08 I've only saw the machine with the guy with the headset on where he's like going for it. And it's like that feels more honest. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, there you go. There you go. There you go. That's where we're at. Commence giving up.
Starting point is 02:24:22 Sorry, we're on the third version. This is for people who couldn't get into the normal stuff. I needed more. We're starting to customize it. I've done everything in the other two games. I needed to be closer. Which like, I imagine there's technical issues in regards to that because like the closer that character gets to you, the more likely you are to like clip through their body.
Starting point is 02:24:45 Yeah, you can see her weird gums and eyes if you lean in too far. If that's what you want. Please enjoy Canadian anime. This really got me. Did it? Yeah. Because the Canadian Tourism Board decided to hire the people that made your name and they made a Canadian ad where the people are visiting anime places all over Canada.
Starting point is 02:25:10 This really genuinely threw me off. Because there was a second, maybe five seconds where I'm like, is this a fucking anime about Canada? No, it's a fucking tourism. Which is a bummer that it's not a full thing. But hey, maybe show your interest and they'll pay for it. Because what, the National Film Board pays for shit all the time. They do all sorts of stupid shit.
Starting point is 02:25:36 They throw money at random Canadian artists just because they're Canadian. Hey, can we get in on this fucking scam? I hope so. To scam the government? Show anime people stuffing poutine in their mouths. Hey, we're running an all Canadian podcast in Canada and we want to get... Give us money. Give me taxes.
Starting point is 02:25:55 Give me money. Give me my taxes back. Give it. Oh, no. Why'd you do that? I thought I could play it again without the sound. It's okay. That's fine.
Starting point is 02:26:03 Yeah. So... Anime characters wearing tukes, man. I know, dude. Check it out, the fucking Borealis. It's going to Toronto. No love for Montreal, though. Yeah, well...
Starting point is 02:26:15 You'd think that they'd be all obsessed. You'd think Japan would love to go to fucking... France? Paris number two. Yeah, you'd think. But no. So... You know what?
Starting point is 02:26:25 You know what? You know that thing that happens to Japanese folks when they go to Paris or France and it's like, it's not as good as they expected? Them coming over to Quebec City or Montreal and dealing with Quebecers would fucking blow their minds, man. How do they handle that shit? The ones that are particularly obsessed, yeah, that get post-Paris syndrome or whatever it's called.
Starting point is 02:26:46 Yeah. Where it's like, oh, no. Oh, that's the same thing that happened to those Avatar weirdos. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My life sucks. This will be great. Oh, it wasn't that great. Ah!
Starting point is 02:26:57 No, no, no. That was... No, that's the opposite. For them, they're like, I want to live on Pandora and I can't. You're right. It's a complete different thing. Better do meth instead. That'll get you there.
Starting point is 02:27:08 Blue. Or you'll have a bad trip and then your world will change. Here's a world they're going to have to change because I don't know. All right, I'm excited. How the fuck they're going to figure this one out. All right. But... What do we got?
Starting point is 02:27:25 Doctrine Dark. Oh, yeah. I saw you talking about this. This is going to be fucking stupid. Doctrine Dark shows up in Fighting Layer EX. Doesn't Doctrine Dark work for fucking Shadowloo? No, but he worked for Gile and he was horribly maimed and ruined by Rolento and he wants revenge on both of them. And Doctrine Dark is a cool guy and he goes explosive and siens un petit peu cadeau pour toi.
Starting point is 02:27:54 But his entire story is heavily reliant on the fact that he's from the Street Fighter Universe. That's fine. It seems like he seeks the man who burned him. I'm hoping we get redacted all over his file. Straight up like black lines. Just censored, censored. We don't know what happened. He was a part of redacted and then...
Starting point is 02:28:18 I have to say that the way... He got his revenge. ...Aureka has been teasing this game is legitimately the most interesting thing I've seen in forever. How so? Because in this article it is being titled, in quotes, Aureka's mysterious fighting game. Yeah, it still has no title. It still has no title. It still hasn't actually been announced.
Starting point is 02:28:44 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Everything about this game has been like, so we're working on some bullshit, I guess. We're actively going with Fighting Layer EX just for recognition. Yeah, just for... But it's still, yeah. Like, Aureka refuses to even say whether or not it's a real game. Because I don't know what the strategy is, but I think it's like... What's interesting, isn't it?
Starting point is 02:29:07 Yeah, because if we get it to 90% without it being real, then we can just announce it and then everybody's already there. Oh man, that game's real? I thought that was a fake game. Still an Apple Fools joke. With a budget. Yeah, did this start as an Apple Fools joke? It totally 100% started as an Apple Fools joke. Aureka, you're pushing it. Get it out this year on April 1st and you will be the greatest ever.
Starting point is 02:29:34 Have some labyrinthine confusing process to download the game so people don't believe you. I love it. Only available on Turkish Xbox Live. Yeah. Speaking of the greatest thing ever, can we just appreciate for a moment, if only for a moment, the fleeting but beautiful connection between Sonic and Hooters. Because this is real and this is the world we live in and this is the timeline that we have chosen. So here's what I envision, right?
Starting point is 02:30:14 Here's what I see. I love nothing more right now than thinking about the possibility that not unlike the Disney and Square heads meeting up in the elevator for that legendary moment, someone from fucking Sonic Team gets in the elevator with the president of Japanese Hooters and basically goes, hey, you know, we've never worked together on anything. And the Hooters guy's like, yeah, I really like Sonic. And he's like, I really like Hooters. How do we Hoot? That's an owl.
Starting point is 02:30:53 Let's make this work. So, yeah, Sonic the Hedgehog, specifically Sonic Forces, is collaborating with Hooters. This is the weirdest. And Sonic is hanging out with the Hooters waitresses and I can't tell. And he looks like he's going to touch one. Well, that's what his arm is out for. Yeah. He's going to try and get some of that back of the hand action going on.
Starting point is 02:31:18 Get old hover hands. Good old reverse hover hand. Reverse hover glove from Sonic. He's going to tell the Hooters waitresses, hey man, you know what I like to do? I like to eat my shit and froth it into a paste that repels intruders. Serve that up fast. Can we get can we get Rouge the Bat in a Hooters outfit for DLC as since his character costume. Somebody posted a pretty good piece of art on our subreddit of like why Shadow is a villain.
Starting point is 02:31:46 And it's Shadow looking at the heroes going, I'll never join you. And it cuts back to the entire Sonic cast in like Hooters shirts that barely fit them or like too tight. I love it. It's good. That's all. That's all we got today. That's all we got. I thought that was one of those fake articles when I saw it a few days ago.
Starting point is 02:32:08 It's so real. It's never been more real. Can you get the Hooters collab but you don't get the persona costume on PC. That was a console exclusive. Yeah. Even on the Xbox owners get it. The persona is never going to come there. If you want to tell us about.
Starting point is 02:32:27 No. Careful. Think before you say this. If you have good ideas for franchises that Sonic forces could collaborate with. Oh, damn it. You can write in to superbestfriendcastatgmail.com. That's super breast. Super breast friend.
Starting point is 02:32:46 Uh-huh. That's boobs. All right. Super best friendcast at gmail.com. We can confirm that canonically Shin Megami Kuzunoha Raido. Yeah, that's right. Is from the same canon as Hooters. Okay.
Starting point is 02:33:14 Okay. Okay. Okay. Give me a second. Because the easiest one is to go Kuzunoha SMT. SMT Dante. You don't even have to go that far. Okay.
Starting point is 02:33:28 What's the. Kuzunoha SMT. SMT Sonic costume persona. Raido fictional character in Persona Universe. That's right. Persona Universe. Yeah. Sonic forces.
Starting point is 02:33:43 There you go. That's how it goes. Uh. I thought you were going to say I can confirm canonically that a hedgehog is going to have hedgehog children with human women. That's what Silver is. Silver. I said fucking Silver because of the King of Fighters character.
Starting point is 02:34:01 Wait, what? Silver? Is the fucking offspring of a human and a hedgehog? You know the girl he makes it with in the song 2006? Yeah. She has telekinetic powers. Oh no. I didn't know that.
Starting point is 02:34:13 And Silver is a white hedgehog from the future with telekinetic powers. Oh no. He's cable. Yeah, dude. So you just put that in your cannon right there. Sonic likes human chicks. No Amy's allowed. Who made fun of that recently?
Starting point is 02:34:30 Something official made fun of the making out part. What was it? It was a comic or it was the show. There's a lot going on. Mania or boom. Probably the show. Something made fun of Sonic making out with our human recently and I forgot what it was, but it was official and it was cool because yeah, we got one coming in from Ramsey and
Starting point is 02:34:52 Ramsey says, hey Super Best, glib, glib, glib, glib, ? Works for me. If the gaming industry did covers like the music industry did. What games would you like to see? Oh, I don't know. Platinum doing whatever? Right. Seems like we've.
Starting point is 02:35:03 I would actually like to see covers. Because we've literally answered this, I think. I mean, there's an existing. Probably over a hundred podcasts. My favorite of all time is an existing series and it's Capcom vs. NK2. It's Capcom doing covers of SNK characters. We got another one coming in from Shane. He says, dare skill man and defendants of the gingerverse.
Starting point is 02:35:27 Simple question here, Willie, don't mess it up. If the video game industry did covers like the music industry does, what covers would you be interested in seeing? I would like to see a Tekken doing a Street Fighter game. The Tekken developers doing a Street Fighter game. That would be interesting. All right. You have a third question?
Starting point is 02:35:56 I'm curious. All right, so we got one from Juan and he says, they're a super best hidden leaf village friends. They're over games. I've been able to. Oh, I was disappointed now. I thought it was going to be another one about the covers. There literally was another one, but it's somewhere in there.
Starting point is 02:36:27 Well, in fact, there's like eight. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, hey, if if video games did covers, what covers would you want to guess what you got fucking took as you read the email? Yeah. Yeah. In fact, we did it.
Starting point is 02:36:40 I think about a hundred episodes ago. Um, yeah, I'd like to see cyber connect to make an FF seven or a man. Oh, no, wait, that's not happening anymore. Haha. That game's never going to come out. All right. You were saying sorry. I'd like to see platinum make a Metal Gear game.
Starting point is 02:36:54 Yep. That one. Oh, you did it. That one became real after we said it. Right? No. Oh, it was already real. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:37:05 Okay. Only horror games I've been able to beat our Silent Hill origins and Resident Evil remake. The reason why is because horror games such as fatal frame and Silent Hill games cause me a lot of mental strain. Fatal frame is really, really fucking scary. They stress me out and I can only play them for short sessions of one hour or so. You ever find yourself physically unable to play a game? Yeah, totally.
Starting point is 02:37:24 I think it's on record that when I played. So here's Dil, right? My girlfriend, she's tough. I'm not. So like, she's like, let's play PT in the dark. I'm like, yeah, okay. And I kind of bitched out like, like hard. Like this was the first like proper go.
Starting point is 02:37:46 And I bitched out into like a jibbering mess kind of thing. And she beat it. No problem. Like she beat it. She got the fucking cutscene and all that shit. And like, I couldn't do it straight up and it made me worried about Silent Hills. Luckily that worry disappeared. Um, I can't say that I ever had that.
Starting point is 02:38:13 So, yeah, physically enable or is it scared? This is the question. Like physically enable or scare? I can't think of anything. Like it's physically enabled. There's a bunch of shooters that you just straight up like were repelled by. Oh, sure. But, but I guess I, but I don't count those because I didn't have an interest in playing
Starting point is 02:38:30 there. You know what I mean? Like it has to be something where I'm like, I want to, I can't. And it's taken me a lot longer to get through some of those older horror games than it should have, because like they, they spooked me good. We got one coming in from Iggy DB. Man, the backs of my knees are so sweaty. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:38:49 The fuck. Damn. It says, but it's also really, really hot here in Montreal for some reason. It's absurd today. Considering that it's the 25th of fucking September. It's, it's a little insane how hot it is, but I'm not complaining. Uh, Iggy DB says their Subaru best friends, similar to how music artists will cover songs by other artists.
Starting point is 02:39:10 What games would you like to see covered by a different studio developer, et cetera? Hmm. You think these are actually different people? These are literally actually different people. I don't know, man. I don't know. That seems like the kind of thing that somebody really wants their questions answered that made a bunch of fake emails and shit.
Starting point is 02:39:36 No dude, got one coming in from a CUDA bar. CUDA bar says if dev studios could cover games like music. The wording is exactly the same on all of them. Like other artists music. What cover would you want them to? Oh, no. That one was actually old. Um, uh, we got another one in here.
Starting point is 02:39:54 You can write, you can redeem yourself, CUDA. Uh, dear trying to get woolly to say, fuck you, God damn it. I'm not going to say that. I get your stupid names. I want to see it. Yeah. Cause I'm getting me to say a bunch of shit. Apparently this is a thing now too.
Starting point is 02:40:09 I don't know. It seems like it's a thing. Uh, is there any reason to buy a VR headset today? It's chicken or egg. Did the games or did the lack of games make it a fad or could excuse me? Let me try that again. Yeah. I'm thinking about it.
Starting point is 02:40:27 I don't know, man. CUDA bar says if there's, is there a reason to buy a VR headset today? If it's chicken and egg, did lack of games make it a fad or could people tell it was a fad and decide not to make games? I don't know. I very much enjoyed my time with it. When's the last time you used your VR and are Zoe and other VR remixes the only things to look forward to?
Starting point is 02:40:49 I'm, I don't think I'm ever going to use my PlayStation VR ever again because there has yet to be like a full game for VR that I needed to play. Every time it was like, do you want to play an existing game in a VR mode? And almost every other time, almost every time it was like, no, actually, I don't. I would rather play my game in 4k at a higher resolution, at a higher frame rate than play like RE7, for example, in VR or Zoe in VR. The last time I used it was when my parents came over to my place of like maybe a month after I got it.
Starting point is 02:41:25 And I had my mom and dad try out the Shark Cage thing. Yeah. And they had a blast with it. And it's a pretty expensive peripheral, but I got that. I got to have that experience with people like a dozen times. So I'll feel ripped. Right. But at the same time, it's like, I'm pretty fucking disappointed in like where the VR
Starting point is 02:41:49 games at. There's there's been no killer app. Yeah, it's slowed the fuck down to a novelty. Now here's the thing is I've been using it recently to show people res and I've done at least three or four times over the last I'd say like two months this summer. I whipped it out a couple of times to show people res. That will continue to be a thing I do for the foreseeable future because res is just an experience that you need to go.
Starting point is 02:42:14 Hey, look, this is a thing that exists now. I've also had a it'll definitely be a novelty that sits there and every once in a while something interesting like Zoe or like whatever that fucking breaking. What was it? Something. I'm not breaking something game action game that just came out where you're on rails and it looks super dumb like a shooter, but it looks like a lot of I also had a technical issue with it and that whatever the fuck is going on at my house is that over time,
Starting point is 02:42:42 my view becomes off center every single time I use it like it starts to drift to one side. No matter where I put the camera, no matter what lights are on, it's infuriating. And every time I try and use it, I end up playing for half an hour and then spending an hour trying to calibrate it through the, you know, the sensor stuff and not being able to. I can't figure it out. I've been having a problem actually with mine where yeah, the it seems to think that you're constantly out of their camera range, even though you're not even there or not.
Starting point is 02:43:16 And it also flickers on and off because of that or because of something else. And I think it's because I moved and I'm in a new location. It needs reconfiguring. I haven't sat down and actually read. Yeah, that's probably it. But reconfiguring it, I need more control over it. I suspect that it might just straight up be broken again, like in which case God fucking I'm not willing to fight the recalibration process every single time.
Starting point is 02:43:40 I use it only for it to fail an hour in and I'll admit it after using it for long periods, like I am affected and I don't like that feeling. It might have been too soon for it. I mean, you weren't having that problem initially. I definitely was. And I remember we were talking about this and you were like, oh, yeah, I'm fine. But I think it depends on what games you play. Yeah, it might have been too early.
Starting point is 02:44:06 I think we might actually have to wait until they get smaller again. Well, if it turns out mine is broken, I know one thing is like, at the very least, if and when I can see a cheap one, I would go in with an Oculus just to be like, OK, well, I at least have a second option here. And I know Rez is out for that. So I guess. But as far as PlayStation VR specifically, which is the one we all have, yeah, they stopped putting stuff out.
Starting point is 02:44:34 The only the only reason I could tell you to get a VR headset currently is if you got it for PC and you wanted to watch a bunch of VR pornography. Sure. Because that which you can do with a PR that way we have you get a USB key and you put your shit on a USB key and then you put your USB key in your PlayStation. Well, that's not going to run the PS that's not going to run the porn games. No, but it'll run the videos. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:45:04 Yeah. No, man. No, but like you totally can. If you're going to get a VR headset now, I would honestly like that's the actual killer app. It's PC and just lots of VR pornography because that is actually being produced. Unlike games. Because all you got to do is strap a fucking headset with cameras on it to someone.
Starting point is 02:45:30 Apparently VR porn is like somewhat horrific. I mean, the fact that like something like Zoe is getting this little feature and whatnot is like a cool thing you want to try out in the same way that the Star Wars thing was a cool thing you want to try out. But all of those things if they just end up being these limited experiences and not like a thing that I can actually come back to and spend a long time playing. Oh, that reminds me. Then I don't think you're going to have any reasons to go buy a new one.
Starting point is 02:45:57 So the question I should actually mention this because I don't know if you how well you saw this or bunny hops right up. But bunny hop went and played Skyrim VR and Skyrim is the kind of game that you want to play in VR, right? Because it's like a big open world gameplay. It's not that fast. All this shit and bunny hop just like described it as miserable and like one of the worst VR games he's played because you have to teleport everywhere and all the combat has been replaced
Starting point is 02:46:29 with waggling. Oh, yeah. Well, that's why I blow that Batman experience that like I fucking hated and you guys like seem to be okay. It's a ride. It's not a game. I couldn't take it. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:46:41 The idea of playing through the entirety of Skyrim with teleports and waggling, it sounds like the fucking worst. Well, anyway, I mean, I'm like, that's the first, you know, I think RA7 is the only one that's genuinely successful full game in VR. Yeah, it might be, I guess. I think it is. And that's the only one. And I didn't play it in VR.
Starting point is 02:47:03 Yeah. Because I'd rather have. And res. Because res. Yeah. Well, right. You know, res full game. Res will succeed at anything.
Starting point is 02:47:11 It must do. What are you gonna? You're gonna be like, I don't care if it's creepy. I don't know. You tell me next week. No, I'm not gonna watch it. Oh, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 02:47:19 Well, the problem that I hear from it is that like the body dysmorphia is extreme because like it's VR and you know how when you when it's VR and you look down your character's hands and it's weird because it's not your hands. Imagine that to the logical extreme. I expect a full report. No, no, thanks. Okay. No, I'm good.
Starting point is 02:47:37 I suppose it would depend on the camera. Yeah. All right. Well, okay. You want to know more details? You fucking go do it. I don't want to do it. You don't want to do it.
Starting point is 02:47:56 You're the one who knows how to put it on the play station. I didn't even know that. Dear super best walking erections off the top of your head. That's a yakuza character. Are there any real life stories or experiences you've had that be the equivalent to a yakuza side story? No, I don't know what that means. So he means like what's what's a particular story from your life that is just some zany
Starting point is 02:48:23 bullshit? Oh, I don't know a bunch of stuff, I guess, but not including things we've talked about before. No. Yeah. Like you've heard it already is the answer. Like every day, like I feel like less that I encounter yakuza side stories rather that I am the NPC in other people's yakuza side story.
Starting point is 02:48:47 Like is it like is it just if you see a weird thing? Is that it? Well, you ever let me ask you will you ever go down to a club and a big tough guy is like hey get in the club and then you go in there and it's a bunch of yakuza in fucking diapers. Can't say. Yeah. See. You have to live up to.
Starting point is 02:49:06 There is a video game. You ever have a kid be like we have to go find the money and then you slap this shit out of that kid and then go save a puppy? Almost but I don't think so. Yeah. Don't think so. Dear super best Marvel bias cast Gary's ass. Oh, yeah, your Marvel bias is on full blast this week.
Starting point is 02:49:30 Would you rather have a fighting game with a fun memorable cast or full of personality or a terrible and terrible, terrible shitty gameplay or fighting game with terrible visuals and a blind cast but amazing gameplay. That is a genuine and I guess that's that's really what it all comes down to right because DBZ fighters has the shittiest most boring cast ever. You stupid you trippin. Listen, um, yeah, I think at the end that's really the whole thing. The gameplay can make those characters exciting.
Starting point is 02:50:03 The gameplay can make you because here's the thing, right? Nidhogg is an example of nothing characters with incredible gameplay and then Nidhogg too. Yeah, but weird but still gameplay good but but but like when you think about it though, like if you really have function versus function, like, yeah, you can probably just take these bland shapes and like Karateka have fun with whatever is going on and go like, oh, should I want to go play some of that? But at the same time, a dumb game with lovable characters and super cool, interesting things
Starting point is 02:50:33 going on, but terrible gameplay is bad and it makes for a good video when we record makes a good video for us and it makes for great poverty jokes at tournaments when you want to whip out some dumb shit and go, oh my God, look at this fucking, you know, fist to fire Jackie Chan. Yeah, I was that's the one I was thinking I was right or oh my God, look, it's it's evil zone. It's Jojo all star battle. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:50:59 Uh, you know, you have I would actually prefer a game that had somewhat interesting characters that was OK, either of those right evil zones. I would prefer an average game that middle of the road on some kind of cool stuff here there. Yeah, then either of those because both of those sound like massive failures middle of the road on both ends is definitely the way to go. But yeah, between the two, it's really hard to say like I would enjoy depends of the hope of those characters being used for something else is there.
Starting point is 02:51:29 I also because yeah, like I would I like when I thought about this question initially, my answer would have been, I'll go with the dumb thing because at least we'll enjoy that at stupid like drunken tournaments and stuff, right? Knowing it's bad and then trying to like optimize how bad it can be. But then I think about like, but wait, Nidhogg was a perfect example of a completely awesome game with just functions playing. Yeah. And we love Nidhogg.
Starting point is 02:51:54 I actually disagree with that statement. I think Nidhogg has an incredibly strong art style. I think that game looks fantastic, but it looks very primitive, but there's no characters. Yeah. Fence man, like outside of the Nidhogg eating you, which you could have just done not without totally. The game itself is super fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:52:14 Which do you prefer, Nidhogg or Fist of Fire? Nidhogg, for sure. Yeah. So I remember like, I guess functions. I remember we in the line for the giant bomb fucking show at PAX one year and some dudes pulled out their laptop right in front of us in line and started playing Nidhogg. And I was like, oh shit, Nidhogg, and you went, what's that? I'm like, it's fucking Nidhogg.
Starting point is 02:52:37 Hey, my friend didn't play Nidhogg. Let's play some Nidhogg. Yeah. And you were like, yeah, that is so good. Sitting in line. That was it. Oh, that was super good. So yeah, despite my initial thoughts that it would be the, it would be all about the,
Starting point is 02:52:53 it all be about the surface, Nidhogg proves otherwise. I'm genuinely disappointed in a lot of the fighting game community that are defending Marvel in such a way in that, that you can clear there being willfully ignorant of the problems people actually have with it. Right? I mean, so, so like Chris G had a really good quote that was, it explains them and it knows who I fucking am. No, no, no, not that one.
Starting point is 02:53:24 The one that it explains the mentality of those of the players and it explains the mentality of like, and then and then at the contrast at odds with like what the public expects. And it makes a lot of sense because Chris, she said, Marvel's always been a trash game. It's always been trash. Absolutely. If you pretend it's not, you're being. Marvel too is like the trashiest fucking shit. But it's our trash and we find a way to customize and find our own shit in that trash that
Starting point is 02:53:54 we like and we enjoy and make it, we make, we're the ones that make it fun. So no matter how terrible this game is going to be, no matter how bad it is as a game, we're the ones that are going to make it exciting because that's what we've always done with these hyper games in the versus series. And that's super true with that. That's a completely true statement, right? But and to that degree, that explains how the tournament life can continue forever for a while.
Starting point is 02:54:24 Yeah. It's just, it's the frustration of going, you know, I've gone into a bunch of threads about Marvel and there's this, there's people who's like, man, who cares about all this shit? Those people are just fair weather fans anyway. Look at this dope thing I did with Ghost Rider, right? And it's like, there's a reason those people are fair weather fans is because they're disappointed and people are allowed to be disappointed. Oh, yes, yes, you there's definitely a lot of people that would stick around more if
Starting point is 02:54:56 they got more on the surface to pull them in if it was more appealing. But there is an undeniable mass percentage of people that just don't have the interest or attention span to keep playing a limited content game like a fighting game. I will never dispute that because we've seen that. So the fair weather fans equal 80% of people playing these games because it's just, there's no single giant player campaign. Right. But what I mean is it's like, it's the hand waving of like legitimate complaints because
Starting point is 02:55:26 they're like people who wouldn't stick around anyway kind of thing, as opposed to like people who will stick around no matter what, yeah, you can't do that because that was five issue there and you can't do that, you know, because the people that show up, at least initially fund the damn thing. You know, so it's like, I'm not saying this in a way to be like, uh, you know, feel bad if you if you leave earlier or whatever, because it's just, it's the nature of a fighting game. Oh, you know what, you run out of things to do.
Starting point is 02:55:58 And if you don't have people to play with, then you just don't have a reason to stick around. That reminds me of something that I wanted to bring up. It's somewhat tangential. But last week we talked about the Overwatch toxicity shit. Yeah. Right. And I talked about how like you need fucking feedback on when you report motherfuckers.
Starting point is 02:56:16 Right. Yeah. So I don't know if you got this, but a lot of people got in contact with me about League of Legends and Dota in particular. And how they go out of their way and how they go like in Dota, you fucking get a message when somebody gets fucked because of your report. And on top of that, you get a report card every 20 games that says, Hey, you got reported a couple of times.
Starting point is 02:56:37 Why don't you back it off a little bit? And apparently and League also does very similar things and it has helped enormously apparently. So yeah, guys, put high end reporting systems into your game. People are dicks. Yeah. That's a good thing. The Overwatch community is, oh, it's bad. But no, what I was going to say is that like, you know, that so that Christian sentiment
Starting point is 02:57:07 is totally understandable. It's totally true. Oh, I get it. And it 100% explains the top player community and how that tournament life is going to last. What it doesn't do, though, is is is is provide a reason to the people who aren't playing the game that way that are playing it because cool monster hunters here. And like, it's just disappointing me. It's like, guys, the roster sucks.
Starting point is 02:57:31 You can admit the roster sucks without saying that you you still like that you don't like the game. Like people are allowed to be disappointed in the roster and it's legitimately fucking disappointing. And it's just and there's a hell of a lot more people out there that want to play X and zero on a team or Dante and Virgil on a team than necessarily just want to play even in your experience online. Have you seen that?
Starting point is 02:57:52 Like that there are a lot that there are a lot of teams that are themed around the characters than around. Yeah. Like this would be. Yeah. Like I mentioned, I'm kind of sick of X zero already, but it's a thing. But like, you totally, you totally, totally, totally see people playing the game that way. And that's always been that way.
Starting point is 02:58:11 I'm like that with King of Fighters. I play you like the theme. And that that's the part that the top players aren't necessarily getting because they're not into the game for those reasons. And, you know, like Magneto Sentinel Storm just happened to be a certain type of jump a certain type of rocket punch and a full screen super, you know, it made those characters what they were, but it could have been anyone else or anything else that had those abilities, you know, type of thing.
Starting point is 02:58:42 And it's weird because I do both. Yeah. I start with what I like and I have to enjoy what the character is like as a, you know, I have to like the character first and then whatever they have, I just stick with. Yeah. I'm a lot more on one end than the other. But I feel like I can at least appreciate the functional view of a function versus function. But I don't know, man.
Starting point is 02:59:05 So it's the same thing we talked about like a bunch of months ago where it's like, there's a bunch of players that when, when fucking combo feed goes function versus function or whatever the fuck, they go, yeah. And that's no problem. Or it's like, ah, so that's what it is. There's more here, man. So, you know, but that that's all. So it's like, there's literally an explanation that makes both sides, you know, like, like
Starting point is 02:59:27 that makes the top players like in their world, they like the game for a completely different reason from you. I would even argue that they're playing a different game. Yeah. Almost similar to how like, like pro melee players are playing a very different game from Smash Brothers. And nearly everybody else would play Smash. So don't try to compare your reasons for liking or hating the game to what they're doing because
Starting point is 02:59:51 they're just not the same thing, you know, and, and, and, uh, there's a gulf. And then like, I don't know, like people like me, I fall right in between and then I go, I'm bummed that I'm not having fun with take an example. Right. Um, apparently Dante's theme music in this game is bad, a bad version of his theme. Yeah. Someone told me that. Okay.
Starting point is 03:00:12 And it's like somebody who plays the game for purely function versus functions like, but Dante's as a character is great. They gave him who cares. They gave him new shotgun. Who cares? That doesn't matter. They gave him new shotgun moves. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:00:23 Right. But it's like, if that doesn't matter, it wouldn't be in the game. That's a feature because it's a feature because people care about the character's theme showing up during special things. They get it. It's not that they don't get it. They get it. It's just a low priority.
Starting point is 03:00:34 It's extremely low priority. There's only so many things that can be low priority. Of course. I was like, come on. But, but it is, you know, but like he's like, he's like, no, dude, it's always been trashed. It's weird because this is the first time I've been on the other side of this. Yeah. With five, I was very much with these people of like, who cares?
Starting point is 03:00:53 It's street fighter. Right. And then I found even myself not playing it as much for those reasons, I would have put more time into the game if they had an arcade mode. I would have put more time into the game if X or this or the survival thing for the colors wasn't so fucking bad. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:01:09 That was a bad one. Yeah. Like I burned myself out trying to get the fucking colors as everyone did, I think. Like, no, but, but really, uh, yeah, it's just, it's two people having a different conversation about the same movie or, you know what I mean, like you just, it's a, it's a comparison that you shouldn't try to make if you're on one side or the other because you just don't arguing different points. You don't like it for the same reason.
Starting point is 03:01:37 There isn't a, there isn't a middle point to meet at because you're complete. You're on completely different wavelengths or you want different things from the thing and Marvel's like more interesting than it is good. It's, it's, it's, it's a, it's a topic fascinating. It's a, it's certainly a fucking topic because it's never happened this way for a big capcom game outside of Capcom fighting jam. And that was, And everyone's just rolled their eyes at that.
Starting point is 03:02:06 Yeah. Because at the end of the day, not only was that like a shit show, but like it played like shit too. Oh man, dude. But I remember the day we played it, like we discovered like, no, wait, you can capcom fighting evolution because capcom fighting jam aka capcom fighting evolution, which is aptly named because it's literally the concept of capcom fighting evolution is the game where we said, I said last time that it has one of the most interesting rosters because they
Starting point is 03:02:32 didn't just do the basics of fucking, oh, here comes Ryu and then here comes, No, I rolled my eyes at that game because it played like shit. Yeah. But it had Yuri and, and Yon and Hauser in it. Yeah. And they never picked those characters. I remember we picked that game up and you discovered, I discovered that Zang gave a super good neck aim and beat you all no problem until you picked fucking Hanzo from
Starting point is 03:02:57 Warzard. From Warzard and just like, it's an 11 minus one matchup. 10-0 was not enough to describe that shut down. I apologize for like the droating on about infinite so often in the last couple of weeks. It's so interesting. But it's just, this is a situation we've never been in. It's fascinating. It's a new creature.
Starting point is 03:03:19 There's a lot to discuss with it and the future. And it's going to get weirder every time a DLC character comes out that looks super good. Yep. Because what's the tipping point? What's the tipping point for the roster is now interesting? By the end. I stand by it.
Starting point is 03:03:33 That's, that could be years, man. I stand by it. Oh man. Last one coming in from Astral Blaze, their super best KPI bunglers. At the start of the year, the future looked a little uncertain. With friends leaving to form their own spin-offs, videos per day decreasing, David Cage being played. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:03:51 Yeah. But these days, thanks to Streams and Woolly versus and you and all these stuff. And Anger's Pat. Yeah. Narciss Liam. You guys are putting out more content and more variety. You can thank Billy for most of that directly. Do you feel like idiots for not branching out sooner?
Starting point is 03:04:10 Or do you see yourselves growing the brand in even more like a Zaibatsu or Smosh? No. Oh, okay. No. You're sincerely Astral Blaze. How that worked. Like, that was, hey, we have a bunch of free time now that we hired Billy. Should we do more stuff?
Starting point is 03:04:28 Yeah. It was a little, it was a little bit different than everyone's ends, but I mean, there's a bit of that. Well, I mean, for straight up, the reason I started to do stream games, it's like, I can't get people to play these games with me. Yeah. Like, no one's going to want to do the fucking pillars or fucking FF15 or whatever, the whole game.
Starting point is 03:04:46 For me, for me and for Matt, I can definitely confirm that there's, I want to do a bunch of shit, but if this went up on the slot that, where's Dead Space? Whereas if this went up on the slot that a fucking episode of Dark Souls is supposed to be on, then we're going to get crucified. And part of that is the reality of that you can't put up too many videos a day or people don't watch all of them. There's straight up, you put up three, four videos a day that are long like the videos we put up.
Starting point is 03:05:11 Some aren't going to get watched. So it's a waste of a slot to put them somewhere else and people might watch that there. Maybe. But yeah. You know, people want their stuff too aggressively to put dumb shit in regular LP slots anymore. What are you talking about? Everything on Woolly versus high quality, not dumb at all. So anyway, that a lot of like making a roadshed allows us to safely do that.
Starting point is 03:05:39 Also, if YouTube just shits itself to death, it's nice to have other things. Oh man. Oh, fuck this fucking advertiser thing. It's so confusing. Yeah. I mean, I'm still got, I still got eggs in the YouTube basket. Yeah. I have a egg, a little baby egg.
Starting point is 03:05:59 Oh, hey, I got a pro tip for you, Woolly. Guess what? You're going to play a game like New Vegas fucking turn the music off. I put up my stream archive up yesterday. I have 11 fucking claims on it. Wow. Okay. Every time the radio kicks on, every time you go near a radio in game, every time.
Starting point is 03:06:19 Actually, I purchased me a copy of Divinity Original Sin. You did? Yeah. And did you take a look at it? I didn't because I'm wondering if I should just go straight into a co-op thing. Yeah. That's, that's tough because that feels like I'd have more fun that well. The question is, do you want to do two or four?
Starting point is 03:06:40 Two. Okay. And yeah, I'm going to see, maybe I want to just go right into a co-op thing. But I'll decide. I'll figure that out. I'd be very interested to hearing your thoughts on that. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:06:56 Yeah. I think, I think maybe I'm going to take a look at that. And I think that one's going to be for me. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So. Yep.
Starting point is 03:07:05 Right? Yep. What's coming up? What's coming up? Okay. Let's see. We have a video for tomorrow. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 03:07:13 Let me see that. Um, what's going on, buddy? Oh boy. Hold on. Uh, dude, dude, dude, dude. Not that one. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:07:28 You see it now. You see that? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Just so you guys know. Oh, yeah. I don't have any footage for tomorrow night PM unless we're doing two episodes of police
Starting point is 03:07:39 a single day. So please let me know. All right. Okay. Yeah. Due to police knots and we'll figure out the rest. Yeah. That's good.
Starting point is 03:07:52 Doing work here. Uh, so the reality of is that next week is the start of the shitstorm. So there might be a couple of slots being something this week because Matt and I are not going to record dead space. Instead, we're going to record more shitstorms. Right. I mean, that's, that's just how it's going to go. Yep.
Starting point is 03:08:06 Uh, we got to get more shitstorms out, especially since I'm going to be leaving the country for a week at the land of October. Uh, gotta get those done. So what's coming out? Uh, police knots. Uh, I highly suggest you check out police knots. If you have not done so already. Oh my God.
Starting point is 03:08:23 I think. Oh my God. This video game. This, this has been the most frustrating. Your face was red. Okay. So let me, let me explain. We're not frustrated because of the game.
Starting point is 03:08:37 We're not frustrated because of the translation or the writing or anything to do with his quality. Right. I think it's quite good. We're not frustrated because we're stuck. We're frustrated because the story is pushing us into the exact mood that it wants us to be in. Yes.
Starting point is 03:08:57 And it is succeeding expertly is being way too good. Game wants me to be frustrated. Guess what? I'm frustrated. It is way too good at getting under your skin when it wants it. When it wants to be there. It's real good at it. And it's going to get real good.
Starting point is 03:09:13 Like I went and looked starting with the next episode and the ones to follow. Yeah. The. He, he did. Turn him around. He did. Turn around. He's where you go.
Starting point is 03:09:25 He's winning. He's winning right now. I don't know if Dead Space is finished. I believe it still has an episode or two to go. Getting up. We'll continue on. When you on the plane. The 14th.
Starting point is 03:09:36 Okay. Okay. And I'll be. I'll be back the 24th. Is fucking the person I know in real life. Yeah. Okay. It was Dan.
Starting point is 03:09:47 Oh. Okay. Yeah. Oh shit. Okay. All right. I was like, I was like, what? He came on my stream one day and was like, I'm.
Starting point is 03:09:55 You mentioned that name all the time. And I'm like, yeah. No. I came on. He came on my stream once. Yeah. And I was like, oh, what the fuck was it? Because the name fucking is popping up everyone.
Starting point is 03:10:05 I'm like, who the fuck is this person? Here's what it is. Okay. Here's what it is. Like he played FF 14 like two years ago. And he named his character Fuggins. Yeah. And when you get into a discord or a chat or any anything,
Starting point is 03:10:19 right? Unless you're a known person like you or me are now, people call you by your fucking screen. Right. Right. Right. And Fuggins is a really fun name to say. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:10:29 And he kind of succeeded in giving himself a nickname. Yeah. Just like that. Well, to me, he's always fucked up story, Dan. Yeah. That's right. That's right. That's right.
Starting point is 03:10:39 I can't take those fucking stories. Yeah. Can't. Can't. All right. Oh, gotta get that subway coupon. Okay. We're going to cut that.
Starting point is 03:10:48 We're going to stop right there. Anyway, I'll tell you the rest of that afterwards. But what was I going to say? Yeah. What's coming up? We got that space. We got, we got the end of that space. We got police knots.
Starting point is 03:11:02 We got getting up. We have this. This week's discuss should be Marvel. I believe. Yeah. Unless we play a better game or something like that. First time I met that guy. No.
Starting point is 03:11:15 No. You got to get clearance on that before telling those stories. Those are too real. Those are too real. Okay. I got to protect my friend here from your, from your disparagement. Yeah. We're probably going to look at it.
Starting point is 03:11:36 Are we going to do the story though? Oh man. Because that's the million dollars. I don't want to. Because I've been not doing it. Should we? In case. Is it like, but I'm annoyed now because I want more stages that I can't get.
Starting point is 03:11:51 Hold on. Until I beat them. Let's check. Let's check to see if we're going to do it live right here. How long to beat. Because yeah, that's the problem. I'm like, I'm basically just like, look, I want more stages. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:12:03 But I'm, I can only hold out for so long. Okay. Now we've been doing every other fucking stupid fighting game story. It's three and a half hours. Every other fighting game story has gotten play. So now it's becoming a thing like telltale games. Okay. Maybe we'll do it.
Starting point is 03:12:15 Or Souls games. Maybe like, oh, we're now we do a thing. Okay. Maybe if there's a day next week in between shitstorm recordings that you met, want to come in and just be like, dang it out. It'll be a short fill for when you're gone at least. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:12:26 Yeah. Yeah. That's smart. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Just probably get. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:12:34 Probably work. Okay. Do work. Let's ask. Don't put poop or death in the name of the video. Nope. Don't do that. And I don't know.
Starting point is 03:12:45 Let's ask an artist to help us out. Yeah. Okay. Cool. This is not confirmation. But yeah. All right. All right.
Starting point is 03:12:54 Oh man. I got a preview of one of the shitstorm medros from one of our artists. It's fucking HQ. High quality, man. Sick. Looks good. Sick. Sick.
Starting point is 03:13:04 Sick. All right. I'm just going to watch. What are you going to do? More Acca. Yeah. And it's easy to fucking blow through it. Easy.
Starting point is 03:13:14 Very easy. It's fast. Yeah. It's going at equal pace right now, to be honest. Yeah. It continues that. I think there's like two. Two slow ones.
Starting point is 03:13:22 What's really interesting is that like episode 30 ish or 30 something. There's a filler episode. And I didn't know it was a filler episode. That's the best. Until people told me. That's the best. Because it's, hey, this character hasn't gotten enough screen time in the show yet. Let's just give this character a whole episode to themselves and nobody cares because it
Starting point is 03:13:43 was awesome. And we love that character. What am I going to do? Play Dark Souls. It's a New Vegas. I don't know. It's the angriest pat. Where's your Woolly Versus at?
Starting point is 03:13:55 It's at Woolly Versus. That's good. And that's good. Yeah. I'm going to keep. You got a shit post? You're doing something stupid. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:14:05 Doing something stupid over there. Yeah. You take your dick out. That's pretty stupid. Don't do that on Twitch. I'm not on Twitch. No. I'm just going to get frowned upon as an advertiser and friendly video.
Starting point is 03:14:19 Oh, yeah. There's a dick in this video. Advertisers are not friendly to that. They don't like that. What are they friendly to? I don't know. Naruto. I don't know.
Starting point is 03:14:32 Yeah. You know what? Yeah. Turns out if you put Naruto in the tags, it makes the advertiser unfriendly thing go away. Like this video says Naruto, but it's just a big dick. Yeah. What's up with that?
Starting point is 03:14:46 Just zoom in. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Fuck. I forgot. I forgot Samus is out, so I got to do that too, but I'm busy. All right. This is a real slow walk off here.
Starting point is 03:15:01 It's pretty bad. Okay. What do you mean you're not on Twitch? You're on Twitch right now. No, but I mean like, I'm like, I'm... Yeah, this is arena. You could accidentally pull your dick out. I'm saying that my woolly versus is a Twitch that exists, but it's empty.
Starting point is 03:15:15 I don't do anything because I'm mainly on the YouTube. Yeah. So similar to how my YouTube page is nothing but archive crap. Yeah. That's the only one that actually does on both. All right. I'd say that's a podcast. That's a podcast.
Starting point is 03:15:26 Everybody. That's a pretty good one. Oh, by the way, about Frank Sinatra. Oh, don't.

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