Castle Super Beast - SBFC 217: Ghost Syringes Are Free To Play

Episode Date: October 3, 2017

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Today, we are supported by Marvels and Humans, and we're going to join in on this epic family drama as two brothers battle, acclaim one throne, and protect in the future of the most astonishing civilization ever seen. It's an action-packed saga that'll take you from the moon to earth and beyond. It's Marvels and Humans, new episodes Fridays, 9th, 8th, central on ABC. Thank you. Thank you. Dr. Octopus, when he got killed off in the clone saga. He's doing it again. Um, I'm okay with it. I just want to know what he's doing. Who? He's you.

What I'm doing? Yeah. How I'm doing or what I'm doing? What are you doing? Right now, I'm talking about the motherfucking clone saga. Okay. But also on Twitter, it's a continuing combo from Twitter. Okay. All right. So I'm trying to figure out the page. Okay. Thank you. At like 5am on Saturday night, I just dissolved my phone and I'm in bed and I'm just shaking because I'm reading a funny article from 2008 saying the top 13 worst stories from the clone saga. Okay. And the article starts with,

y'all motherfuckers were praising me saying, oh, thank God you weren't beating the clone saga in the head with your last article, the top 10 worst Spider-Man stories. Of course not. I have to let the clone saga have its own article. Well, save that shit so you can get it wrong, Matt. But this is already wrong. It's already wrong. What about the primal hearts are craving or whatever it is? No, no. I won't talk about that, but I'll talk about a bit of- All right. They replaced him with Lady Octopus whose goal was to merge virtual

reality with real reality. Well, how do you do that? I am unclear. When I asked him that, he said she got all the servers. What? That's what he told me. Look at him. Look over there and ask him. Because think about it. 1994, 1995, the internet, you can basically say anything you want about it because no one knows. Right. So if you start the servers, then you've sufficient amounts of servers will merge realities. It's a universe with a Spider-Man. Well, you have already five megabytes of data. All right.

You can do whatever you want with it. Why not merge two realities? I can't see a personal computer needing more than, what was it, 64K kilobytes of data? Wait, I might grab Ben Judd. Bill Gates said that. Oh, man. I bet Ben Judd said that too. Well, welcome to the Cold Start Cast. We go right in. Isn't that a hot start or like a rolling start? Oh, yeah. I guess rolling start.

Oh, yeah. Okay. It applies to circuit energy. You're super right because when mics are hot, you can call that a hot start, but a cold open is an open that doesn't show the intro. Yeah. Or like it just has silence. No, no, no. A cold open is when you're watching your favorite TV show, but there's no intro. It just plays it straight and then the intro comes later or never all. And then Mr. Bazooka comes in and says a thing and then the laugh track happens.

Or like, yeah. Bots master famous for its cold opening. Or you see a shot of All Might doing a thing and then you're like, what's up with that? What are we, when are we going to find out more about that? And then it cuts to the new intro and then and then does the whole dramatic. Did you finish up? Yep. All right.

I finished up before even knowing that I was finished up. Yep. No, it's sure, right? I thought I was in for the long haul here, academia. Yeah. Yeah, I figured. I thought I was in for the long haul on that and I just ended up clicking the next button and it's like, this is coming out soon. And I'm like, what is, oh my God, the final episode of the current season of hero academia is like a very weird place to end the season on.

It only makes sense. Okay, I didn't see the last episode. I stopped. I caught up before the last episode. Okay. The last episode encounter that came out. Yeah, I didn't. Yeah.

Okay. Yeah. The encounter just came out, right? It's a genuinely, that's the last one. Okay. And it's like, it's a genuinely weird place to end it on because nothing happens. Okay. Hey, it's the kind of episode that you would get like after an exam, but before the next exam.

Yeah. Oh yeah, we're going to do it. And you're like, wait till next year. Oh, and it's, and it's, you know, formulaic shown into the point of like we've done. Absurdity. It's so insane how far along the template like this thing is the template. Yeah. Right.

You've got the kid who stands out for being different because he's not as good or whatever. His power sucks, but no, it doesn't. He's got to be smart about it. Everyone else better. You've got the, you got the rival. You've got the, there's Sasuke over there. But that's not Sasuke. There's other Sasuke over there.

Right. You've got, yeah. Class of Sasuke. You've got the love interest that she's not useful. Oh wait, she's pretty smart too. You've got, okay, let's learn what it means to become the best blank. And then, oh no, before we have a chance to do anything, shit gets real. Oh no, Orochimaru attacked the Hokage.

And then that's what happens. And what do we do? We come out of it with a fighting tournament to show off all the characters. Including a bunch of new ones that have no place anywhere else because they have the most overpowered shit conceivable. And we need, but we needed, we need further tournament like Shenanigans to see the cool teacher era of powers and what those are like. I honestly, it's so on the formula, but it just, it's fun to watch.

So it doesn't matter. No, it's fine. It reminds me of Gurren, not in its tone. How? But in that it is, Gurren is reconstruction, right? So whereas Ive and Keline is deconstruction of that anime. Yeah, we've all seen that nine gag picture. Been a while since someone's even said that.

That's where it was posted. That's where everyone learned what to call it. It's accurate. Like fucking Eva is deconstruction. And then fucking Gurren is reconstruction. This feels like that to like the accidental deconstruction of Shonen by Bad Shonen. Yeah, sure. Whereas this is like, no, the formula works.

No, it actually works. You just have to enjoy the people that the formula is being applied to. Yeah, basically. And they have to not be stupid idiots at every turn. And the other bit is that it's, it's, it's following hard on that formula, but also inserting that formula into like Western comics, particularly some characters more than others. Oh man.

Because some of those characters are just bleach Shinigamis. Yeah. Some of them are just Naruto teachers. You know what I mean? And then a couple are just like, I know that guy. You're from that anime. You're from your, your goddamn spawn villain. But the man.

But yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. What's his name? Okay. A stain who basically stain is he's spawn villain man, but he's like the Magog of this universe where like Superman represents one thing. And Magog is the future. The Rob Liefeld verse.

And I want to live there. And everyone is like, they're like, that guy, we don't want that for our hero. But he's kind of cool though. You know, they're like, but isn't he, isn't he kind of cool? And everyone's like, oh yeah. There's a syringe in this. There's something about him. Yeah.

They literally go, there's something about that edge guy. He's so edgy. I don't know. You know, and then there's like viral videos. And it's, it's super fun how they treat it. Like, you know, like they bring that kind of character. I think Prince of Persia Warrior with Finn was actually the final nail in the coffin to like edgy characters.

Yeah. That was the highest arc people started then like going hard against them. But now it's been a couple of years. It's time to bring up the important thing. And even the, even the show makes this distinction. The important thing about Stain is that he believes in his own edginess. They're going to say he believes in his own justice, which to be fair. No, he also very literally believes that.

Yeah. And there's, and there's excellent reason for his super stupid trophy behavior. Oh yeah. Like he does the dumbest trope, like, like, like villainy trophy things. And you're like, that's dumb. And they're like, no, here's the reason why you're like, okay, that's fine. You know, so let's hope for a spin off show for Stain. Yeah.

Oh, no, he's not getting that kind of spin off episode. No, but like Inferno Cop where it's made real cheap and real bad. Yeah. And real awesome. No, Macadamia is good shit. And it's, it's a quick one. Okay. So you mentioned a few days ago on some on something, the fucking like character sheet,

fucking alignment chart. And I recognize you saying Macadamia, which is chaotic evil. But I got to say, I much prefer the neutral evil of green Naruto. That's, that was pretty bad. Have you heard, have you heard anything about the vigilante spin off thing? I have not. All I know is somebody sent me an image on Twitter that looked really cool, which is some old guy going, I'm going to get you.

I'm knuckle duster. Yeah. Yeah. So there's apparently some sort of spin off thing. Guys, don't do it for money. Yeah. I'm curious to see have like, if that's going to come out a bit like, um, like the Rohan over, you know, like if we're going to get like a spin off

episode in between. I should go check that out. Yeah. If you haven't read it, I have not. Yeah. It's fine. I read part five or just wait. I don't know.

It's up to you. Yeah. I can't, I can't make a banana. I can't make you do anything. Hi. Hi. How's it going, man? So Lady Octopus, her tendril, no, no, no, I'm done.

Okay. Because I'm like, I mean, everyone's done their takes on the claws and it's like, if they're not talking to him and they don't have all personalities, then you better be doing something clever with it. And if you're, no, if it's just the fucking elements and, and, and. Yeah. It's acid, electricity, laser. That's a.

The element of laser. Yeah. Hey, light. Hey, light, light is usually used as an element of RPGs. It's not, but it's used as one. There's, there's four. Acid, flashbang, laser. These are the elements of octopus.

Ink. Yeah, no, that'd be the one. I did not mention ink, but even Doc Ock, regular Doc Ock, Doc Ock Classic never used ink. He didn't have nothing. So whatever. Hey, I wasn't here last week because I went to a creepy cabin in the Adirondacks.

The creepy shit happened with Liam and, and his girlfriend. How was your meal? What, what? How was your meal? How was my meal? Mm hmm. My meal. Mm hmm.

My, the meals I had were fine. Did you eat well? Yeah. Okay. Cool. What have you done? Did you poison him? All right.

This sounds like he's. Tell us, tell us about the cabin. It's nice. The fuck is this? A call back to last week, idiot. Go on. I don't know about this. It was, it was great.

We watched six Friday the 13th movies because we all, they. All of them. Six. They watched. Oh, boy. Liam and his girlfriend. All of them. They watched four.

Many more than six. Oh. No, we know. They watched the first four, then they needed to get caught up. Yeah. So we watched five to Jason X. Oh. This is why I brought up Jason X.

Oh, that's why you're talking about Jason. Because it's fresh, you know. Oh, yeah. So we had fun doing that. And yeah, those really relaxing, beautiful lake. It's part four of the best part. I suffer. Part six is the best part.

Oh. Which one's part six? Part six is called Jason Lives, where part five, they didn't have Jason at all. Yeah. With some random asshole who put on a mask, pretended to be Jason. Jason's not in that one. Yeah. So part six is the one.

So part six is they literally resurrect Jason with a lightning bolt. And it's the only one where the writer was like, you know what's stupid? These movies. And wrote the movie to be like, you know what's stupid? Everything that's happening. And it pokes fun of itself. Is that the one where he punches a guy's heart out? Yes.

I was going to ask, is that the one where he punches the boxers head off? No, that's eight. Oh, damn. I like that kill. That's a good one. That's the only good part of that movie. Because that boxer gives it to him. Yeah.

And then Jason just gets the shot. Well, part eight? Yeah. J.J. Leon. You're trying. You're trying. Jason shoots out his beyond. So it was all really fun.

Stone Voorhees. And we did the whole s'mores things on a fire pit. I haven't seen so many stars in the fucking like that was Grunlag on levels of look up. And it's it's it's God. No, I can't remember the trigger just got the budget to make the sky explosive space. Yeah, it was it was awesome. And well, nothing really spooky happened. It was spooky going out because the the dock is really far from their house

and there's no lighting. So just literally take out flashlights and go down there. And I started to get like little man, there should be a horror game where this happens. Sometimes sometimes life imitates attack on Titan Skyboxes. Yeah, a little bit. While I was there, we also both of us played, but you know, did more Samus returns. Still kind of like inching along with that. Like I got the the the various suit and the lightning.

That's I know one type of thing about that is that you have the lightning armor. And we were like, that's cool. And you get it. And it's just one of the new Aeon abilities. And it just makes a green force field. Don't call it fucking lightning armor because that makes it sound like it's going to be awesome. We're shooting lightning bolts or or something. It's just a green like force field.

It's super useful and it's neat. But like it visually it's just kind of blah. But I'm sloving fun with that. And you know, I'm sure we all played some of these, but played Cuphead. Yes. Got Cuphead after after a walk. A while of people convincing me that this was not a hoax, that it did come out. Still wasn't really sure.

I downloaded it. I'm like, I don't know. You were playing it. You were like, I should put this on a time capsule and send it to my grandchildren. Cuphead is actually way, way better than I thought it was going to be. I mean, it's because I never actually like looked at like whenever I see a video, right? Maybe twice ever. Cuphead's like, Peel, Peel, Peel, Peel, Peel.

And I thought that was it. Did you Paris? Shit. I know. I didn't know there was Paris. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Until the game booted up. A hundred percent.

There's supers. Yeah. There's Paris. You can play the game with a lot of its basic features and just do it like pew, pew, run, bang, shoot, man. Yeah, yeah. But there's advanced systems. The Paris give you super like bar.

So you build up extra EX for taking risks. So I was really like, wow, this is way better than I thought it was going to be. And the other thing I have to compliment, maybe not a lot of people talk about it is like the bits of writing that are there are actually really, really sharp. Oh, yeah. Like whenever you lose, a boss has a taunt that's amazing. And when there's like several bosses, like if you die on each one, each one gets their own taunt. And I'm like, all these things are great.

What are the the the frog brothers? They're like, they're like, that's the reason we're so bad because we come from the wrong side of the lily pad. I'm like, oh, that's good. That's good. Makes you want to die on every boss. Kind of. Well, good. Don't worry.

Yeah. And the other little mechanic I want to talk about where I'm like, that's weird. And I'm like, no, that makes sense is like play it on basic just to get a lay of the land of how the boss fight is going to go and then play it on normal to actually get the contract just to give yourself like, but it doesn't really matter because do you have lives? You don't. No, there's no lives. Okay.

Because I didn't you get fucking killed and then you either do continue or not the thing. And the little, you know, this might be stuff that we're all going to mention, but the little tracker to show you how far you were from the boss is also incredibly. Oh, yeah. No, you get to see like, I remember I fought the frog boss. I don't know. It took me like five, six times to beat it. Right.

And it's like, I got killed on the second phase over and over and I knew that it was the second phase right away because at the bottom it just shows of like a looks like a like a racing line or something like that. Yeah. Where it's with little like markings in between like this is how much you got into. There's another phase after this. So fucking get good for real. Because the other crazy thing that I guess I just bypass means I didn't know the game

was primarily just boss rushing. I also I thought it was levels with a lot of bosses and I have even gotten to like a normal level. There's one you can play relatively early. Yeah. And I mean, considering the nature of how expensive it is to do these types of animations and whatnot, I would hope that it's that because the alternative is we drew like 10 grunts that you're going to fight for hours. Yeah, that's true.

In color variants and like that's not fun. So unique bosses that are all like wacky and have phases and stuff is way more fun and a better use of your animation. You're focusing on one interesting encounter and one enclosed space rather than like have to plan out like an entire. Well, the other thing is that if these bosses were at the end of levels, holy fucking shit, I would have given up. Yeah, like I like, you know, there's the one shooting level that I played early.

I played an hour and a half and played the one shooting level. And it took me like five or six tries to get through it. And then I went and fought the frog brothers and took me five or six tries to get through it. But if those had been combined, even though the shooting level is like one minute long, maybe 90 seconds, the combined challenge like the combined challenge would have meant like, okay, I'll only get a shot at the at the frog boss with whatever health I got after this one. It would have taken me like all day. One thing about the item shop, though, is that I go in.

I'm like, I actually don't want. I don't want a single one. I don't want any of these items for two full one like I'm going to do without them. And two, all of these that don't really like, it's like, they all give you an extra hit point that makes you fucking weak. Does this, but does that spread? Spread shot does way more damage because it's a spread shop. But guess what?

It doesn't reach all the way across the screen. So they're interesting. They balance out different. But I'd want like one that's just moderately always good. And I haven't found that one yet. I haven't really bought them yet. Like it's not called a power up. Is it?

No, it's not. It's not. It's just called the store. And that pig guy's like, welcome. That guy's crazy. I don't believe I don't trust him. I also played something the complete opposite of Cuphead. I'm not sure you guys play golf story.

Everyone's fucking losing their shit about golf. No, but it's why so? Why so much noise about golf story? It's on the docket. And I wanted to talk about it when we looked at the trailer. So it was at a Nintendo Nindies event or whatever. Watching the trailer answers that question, to be perfectly honest. Because I'll tell you right now,

it's an RPG where the town is a golf course. And all various characters, eccentricities, side quests happen on the golf course where you're trying to do golf. So legend of Zelda, Link's Awakening, walking around the map. But the map, the Hyrule map is a golf course. But it's a golf course and you can golf anywhere. And then talk to people, go into houses, open boxes, do RPG things. Yeah.

But you're on a golf adventure. Your dad teaches you golfing. Then 20 years later, you wake up and you're like, your girlfriend is broken up with you. And you're like, I'm going to golf again. Oh, man. To finish what me and my dad started. That's a golf story, Richter.

Yeah, it's the golf game that we would be talking about on this podcast. And the actual like game of playing golf is like well done. It's like a 2D overhead thing. So there's not much to fuck up. You go to like a little mini putt area and just beast on it because you're a golfer. I like I like those old old timey fucking 2D golf games. There's there's a kid that runs around the golf course, stealing food from everywhere.

And he's just like the golf course like near to well. So like in the tutorial, for example, your father's like, OK, and geese are a constant problem in golf story. Yes. They are troublesome to let's say. And they will continually watch you do the tutorial. And then you're like, I can't do it, dad. There's too many geese watching.

They're like, OK, son, just put them all out of your head. This is the final putt. And this is like the end of the tutorial. Millions of geese at home are watching on TV. And I'm like, the writing is sharp, you know. And and the music is also really, really fun. Like it's very jazzy. Like I almost get like an undertale, earthbound feeling.

And the kid that steals food starts getting chased by five or six geese. And they all start running around your hole. And I'm like, OK, so this is going to clear out. Then I'm going to do the whole. Then the dad's like, no, son, use this. And you have to complete the tutorial with these assholes running around. I'm like, this is that I can totally see why people like this. And it's just a very relaxing game.

Just shots of like you just throwing balls into the hole in front of you, like fuck it. Like I don't even know what's going on there. I hope there's a boss fight. No, I haven't met a rival yet. I hope there's something like that. I hope there is too. And the last thing I kind of played is a fight in rage. The new beat him up on steam.

Damn, that thing's hard. We need to do a video just so I can see the end of the game. Because I got far. I got to like round seven. And the really cool thing I want to talk about that the mechanics of this are really good. But it's more of like not trying to be a streets of rage or a final fight thing. It's more trying to be one of those combo heavy. Like how how how good can you rack up your combos and keep the guys in the air?

Get a hundred hit combos and stuff. But some of the variants to get to other paths and side quests. It's like the end of the first stage. There's this evil boss who's like a kitty cat dressed up as M. Bison. Yeah. And he's holding a woman hostage in this world of fighting rage. The animals people eat humans. And there's like this fragile alliance.

And they're like, hey, don't eat me. Don't eat me. And the animals like we're super tough because we're animals. So we will eat you. So he's holding this girl hostage. And you get to this area. Normally he goes, don't get close or she's dead. If you don't do anything, nothing happens.

And he just stays there and like nothing happens. Like I waited. If you get close, he kills the girl. Yeah. What the fuck was I supposed to do? On the my third or fourth play through because if you quit during this game, there's no saves. Yeah. It's so fast.

You start back from the start. So the screen previously pick up a knife. Then you throw a knife. You throw him and he goes, what the fuck? He drops the girl. She runs off and then he starts off with more damage taken off him. You beat him. You go to a completely different level with her and you do her side quest.

It's like Bloodborne or like a Souls game where you got to know her. You got to know in advance. And I'm like, that's super cool. Like that's an addition to like when you just see a branching path that says go up. Yeah. Well, that's well, that's a game that again, yeah, it's meant to be like, you can't know and you can't do it properly your first time through. I don't know.

But I read someone said there's 56 different endings. 56. There's a high. I believe that. Like it's 20 or more, something like that. I don't remember if it was 56, but it was an insane amount. But I think that's variants in between the three playable characters. Oh, yeah.

So that's where a lot of it comes from. So yeah, that was really good. And the last kind of thing is I finished the last the last bit, the last part of Teras House Aloha State. Willie, what is the name of a black dude from Tenju Tenji? Bob Machihara. Bob Machihara. Tenjo Tenke?

Yeah. Sorry. Bob Machihara. He's always fucked up both names. So yes. So in the middle of Teras House, they go, hey, everyone, here comes Wesley Nakajima. So half black, half Japanese guy waltzes in. He's a rapper and everyone's like, oh, so good.

How exotic. And then they proceed to ignore him for the rest of the show because I don't know about that skin color. No. They're not everyone's nice enough to him. But much like Armin, the half Israeli, half Japanese guy. The commentators that watch the show in between spurts are like, man, he does nothing. Don't like that guy. And then Armin winds up doing something significant.

Wesley, unfortunately, when he debuted his rap song, the Instagram rap or the lyrics were thus Instagram, Instagram. Press that like button. Everyone put your hands in the air. Instagram, Instagram. I like your photo. So he's an English rapper. Yeah, but it's English English.

That's unfortunate. It was the least type thing ever. All of his Japanese friends fucking going nuts. I'm raising my hand. Because they love that. They're like, it's about Instagram. I don't understand. The thing that sucks about that is when a character like that walks on the set and everyone goes, oh,

shit. That's awesome. Because it's like, but it's but that's the extent of why he's there. It's, hey, we have the novelty character and then you're not. You're still a side character. So fucking dance in the intro, Bob. Dance. Do the fucking spin.

Okay. Who's that? That's Soichiro. Okay, cool. There's that sumi. All right. What's that guy's name? He's doing a windmill.

Oh, shit. What's his name? Fucking dance, though. When I was like, just add charisma. When I was like 17, I was watching that show the first time I said exactly that thing. I was like, who the fuck said awesome black dude? Doesn't matter. Brings the attitude.

But that's all you need. Don't talk to him. Wesley literally does nothing. But but there's this main hero of the thing because guess what? It's really weird because the first series that we watched was all in Japan. It was fascinating. Yeah. But this one's less fascinating because 80% of the characters are literally Americans

or really Americanized Japanese people have lived in Hawaii for like 10 years plus. Yeah. So most of them are more comfortable talking with English and will regularly break into English. You want you want the culture shock nonsense. And it's not there. There are like people that are like straight from Japan that just showed up for the show and that's fine. But that the conflict or that like interestingness doesn't really happen often because so many

some of the characters speak better English than you or I. Sure. You know, one guy had one guy's accent was more English than me. But he was born in Japan. What are you talking about? I talk. Speak it good. Well, now that it's not that it's a Japanese reality show on Netflix,

like you know that like multiple seasons in you're getting an American product basically. I'm not sure if it airs in Japan first that it moves to Netflix. Like I think Netflix just licensed it out. It's not like that seems like it makes much more sense. I don't know. But the main hero is this guy named Taiishi who's literally here. The main hero. I heard it.

I heard it. I'm not even kidding because the season we watched previously ate everything about that. Dude, this is serious. The previous series, nothing. There's no there's not a main here. There's no nobody they keep. But this guy stayed around for the longest time is Taiishi. And he's the protagonist.

Yeah. Because he wants a love worth dying for. That's why he's on Terras house. Right. And does he look like a well balanced all around her? Are his stats evenly distributed? He practices wooden sword. Of course he does.

And he's pretty fit and he's super good looking. God damn it. But guess what? That's it about him. That's all he's got. But is there any like hint of flavor in any way? Is his hair doing anything? Yeah.

Yeah. He he he he loves any peacocks himself. But he's basically just really good normal guy. Yeah. Yeah. Of course. Of course. Oh man.

He's a so he comes in flavor and he keeps saying like I want a love worth dying for. And people start making fun of him about it. So much fun that in the second or last episode, all the commentators wear black and white t-shirts that say love worth dying for because they're cheering him on. So it says like Sochi Roa Koi or something. And and they're like we left secretly when he was gone. We left one of these shirts in his bedroom.

Hopefully he wears it on today's show. And then it cuts and he's doing his katas on the roof. The wooden sword he's wearing it. And the god here is like yeah he's doing it. Wow. So he becomes the main character because no one else has anything going on. Like I don't mean the show tried. It's just that everyone else is so dishwater.

OK. That he is the only thing that the show focuses on because the only thing that's interesting because he's trying to get a girl to like him. That's unfortunate. Yeah. Yeah. But this last like because it was weird. The show came in not seasons but parts.

So it started earlier this year and it was part one eight episodes. One's terrace house. Then three then three episodes three months later part two. Then the last part came out it's 12 episodes. I mean just burn through them. And yeah like it was it was awesome the last like eight parts or so. I was just like oh yeah pull in for me better do it. And what's fun is that since this like airs like three like this is actually

happening three or four months ago but it's airing now. You check the terrace house Instagram and you can see who's still together. And you're like oh they're not they're not exchanging pictures anymore. So is it like a lucha underground where by following it you kind of get spoiled ahead of time. This no because I don't follow any of the like because it's rustlers on lucha underground that spoil things on Twitter. OK.

OK. You know yeah they'll just say like oh that guy died last season. So like what can can I I'm going to interrupt your story so that you can read. I'm done. What what. So there was a message that was an update message that I snoozed on. Sure. Right.

If you remember before can you read this one here that just popped up for me please Matt. Official Windows. Windows wants to tell Willie our friend Willie here that they want to get better together with Willie. Don't sleep on this update bitch. We want you to have the latest improvements on Windows running smoothly and more securely. And what are my options ready restart now. Not ready.

Pick a time that works best for you or your thing your choices are restart now pick a time and keep on snoozing snoozing. Keep sleeping on me says Windows. I got this up this same update message like yesterday. They're getting aggressive with it because I just said leave me alone and they're like nah and we're about to restart the computer right before this podcast and it gave Willie two options update and quit or update and restart that sleep or stay woke. Maybe I'm the crazy one here but like if you regularly restart your computer like this is

not an issue. I guess not but I restart my computer like fairly infrequently maybe once a week. That's that's fine. I don't restart it very often at all. You let all the resources pile into the no I clear them out actually. Willie you have to restart your computer every once in a while. I will I've explained I've explained why I've explained why I don't like doing yeah and it's stupid but it's not because all my tabs but in the no it has nothing to do with that.

Oh yeah. It has nothing to do with tabs. No they all save. I can close and reopen my things as much as I want which is what I do. So what's the real issue. The real issue that I've described before and you probably forgot is because back in the day years ago when I like you know I made my towers and everything and like every time I would fucking have an issue it would be after a restart where some bullshit went down

and I'd turn it back on to nothing or I turn it back on to like something fucked with the bios or something going to something else going on or like some fucked up was an installation problem and I'm just like you know what I'm so sick of turning it off coming home needing it and turning it on and suddenly there being a problem that I would rather just keep it on and use it as I need to and if there is an issue then I'll run into it and deal with that when that comes. Now I am so I don't want to restart it and have problems so what I'm going to do is I'm going to wait so long to restart it that it has to run tons of updates and possibly well back in

that it will now guaranteed cause a problem once upon a time updates weren't a thing once upon a time you just had your in windows installation so infrequent that it right back in the days of service pack three you just had service pack three and you sat on it and that was life so this constant online thing is new and like yeah it adds the fucking wrench into the works but it but for me that was the way to stop my computer from breaking fucking constantly because otherwise every couple weeks at maybe every two months or so fucking reinstall drop everything off on external and like redo it and I'm talking and I'm talking like like late 90s through the early odds you know just like tons of tons that was 20 years ago I know that but I'm saying like all of

that like like you know tons and tons of computer fixing and repair later I was like fuck it I don't want to deal with that so then through the late odds I started doing this and I've had significantly less problems so I get that it's like weird to you now but for me it was a solution that worked for like old man I get you but for the me for like 2005 onward it worked super well it worked really well and right now an annoying message is being the worst of my troubles because Microsoft decides to do this it's not that bad compared to a broken people that when their computer starts up and they get like 35 warning messages and they just go uh uh and they just X out all out of all the yeah don't do that don't do that clean up your startup this is just a

of modified version of that perhaps but the point is is that there's an important security update to make sure that you don't get hit with ransomware but I just what you find weird has super worked well when we log in with no issue so I have no reason to not do it when we log in to do a video I don't know what to tell you and we're on my account there's that green message on yeah yeah how many messages have you got fucking you lose this is mine yeah mine is just like 99 freak out I just hate it 99 plus messages fucking confirm your email and you'll get rid of that I've got no time for you yeah for me yeah well I mean for that whatever rose prompts are yeah no see I live life in the fast lane I'm I'm encountering what is essentially a like very

so I was a little annoyed at your part of the conversation woolly but when Matt is just like flagrantly to to to confirm his email with steam something bubbles up in my chest and it's now like I hope every computer you have breaks and I hope you lose your steam account very because because you just don't do it right yeah just do it right yeah not only will I not do it right I'll make sure to always leave that screen on so you can always see it right see if I shut up about it I wouldn't have done this you like I don't know if you know but I have an extension that unloads tabs that haven't been used in an hour in an hour that's weird right so like or like what you said that highly specific you can you can change the time frame so what what's the point of that the

point is is that it frees up the memory that chrome would otherwise hog right and so it just suspends the time so it unloads them so when you would go back what if you actually need that tab in like an hour and a half then you click on the tab and it then it reloads it when you click on it well that is so that's I mean it's not a perfect solution but that's definitely a lot of help definitely helps yeah for sure aside from fucking up computers woolly what else did you do um fucked up a bunch of it's it's just interesting because it's like until it stops working for me I'm gonna use the solution yeah you said you said this type of mantra for a lot of what do you want me to tell you in general you know if you've been if you've been using uh uh uh the fucking

however your your toilet paper roll sits on the thing like there's the right way and the wrong way clearly yeah only villains do that only yeah apparently europe has the backwards toilet paper roll why that's what i don't think that's but i don't yeah no yeah yeah this week is is which way should the toilet paper sit on the thing in the front it clearly yeah obviously human beings of dignity yeah do like that why would you reach all the way to the back it doesn't I don't know but apparently in Europe there is a debate because some people put it on backwards like that the old world with their old bullshit I don't know I don't understand it exactly but Nintendo has a knack for picking out like that's because Japan got real issues Japan got that exclusive one which was

nuggets versus whatever fries uh from mcdonald's neat versus not meat well there's no way that versus not mean I know there's no way that america that like north america is not going to get like all like a halloween type thing like that's probably that's ridiculous to ghost versus vampires what would it actually be that yeah is that what you want to go with ghost versus vampires it'd be vampires and werewolves that's like but like which is cooler or which is scarier which is hotter because you heard me I think ghosts are dumb so they always lose for me you think ghosts are dumb you're gonna see how good dumb ghosts yeah I've talked about it a couple times but like in your soul because monsters are physical things that exist and can super kill you yeah but those are

way scarier but ghosts are just there hold on and they shake things hold on hold on and then they make faces okay and that's it they're okay there are so many if you are a ghost that can possess somebody yeah then you all those like an apparition because the rules change right you're describing a poltergeist yeah the rules change all the time but if you're just a traditional I'm gonna make things shake and just float through the walls I don't give a fuck nobody cares about those hey people are worried about vengeful spirits woolly look at me if I give you a chainsaw put you into a prison we'll see how long you last sure against the ghost but I'm saying in comparison to a physical strong thing with powers now guess what so every other halloween monster there's a

moderate more a bit of evidence that ghosts exist rather than monsters because here's the thing though but wait rather than a beast that doesn't exist wait what are you talking about I mean I mean when people say I saw ghosts no one says I saw the fish man what are you talking about people do that all the time who says give me an example who says I saw the fish man bigfoot and Loch Ness are some of the most pervasive fucking myths ever yeah but no one's seen anything no one's actually seen it they're fucking oh my god this is the wrongest you've ever been that's in one localized area everyone throughout every country see okay I think that come on I's not no I think that is true no no no no no no in every country the amount of every country so the amount of every country

has seen a ghost the amount of people uh claiming to have seen ghosts and UFOs overwhelmingly out numbers sightings of anything else yes that's true that's what I meant that's not you said nobody claims to seen a monster yeah but that's because I talk bad yeah I'm cut trying to cut through the English very good okay there it is all I'm trying to say is something that's like a human I've seen a monster once if something that's like a human but wait I'm looking at it right now there's a mirror yeah way stronger than a man like anything like a bear yeah yeah right but like a can't be a regular bear so uh so uh where we like to condemn to bear a werewolf a Frankenstein that's still a bear that's more heightened a fucking vampire a fucking Ligaru for all I care what is

Ligaru now we're going West Indian okay West Indian vampire or one of those fucking sucker babies Prata Prata Prata yo you walk into the forest in Grenada and then and then a green weird baby drops down from the trees and it grabs onto the back of your neck yeah and it chokes you out and all it yells into your ear is put me back where you find me and then that's all it does yeah but it just turns out it was like star exorcist what is it it's fucking it's um um it's the stand it's the stand up that lands on Rohan oh man you know who's got some good ghosts fucking southeast Asia that fucking ghost yeah it's like a head with intestines yeah you know that's legit right I think it's Cambodian I think so or Filipino it's super scary that thing right but then when you do like

like if you do like the basic fucking oh girl with the long hair oh oh you're a guy long hair and I can't see your face oh no see now you're gonna make noises that startle me all right now now fuck you like you can phase through walls this bullshit who cares that's why I say bitch nigga I don't give a fuck about no phasing through nothing and you look through the window and saw a weird green face you shit your pants it's not it's scary but it's way less scary than a thing that can actually kill me if you're just gonna float around and spook me out woolly that's not a real threat no because it's a it's a continual torture and then you'll go insane and lose your job whereas the werewolf will fucking kill you listen the frankenstein will fucking kill

you the vampire will fucking kill you or make you a slave you'd rather die he'll make you his slave you'll turn you into a ghoul or a freak wait what are you talking about now and then you get killed super easy by uh anderson and and or and or else he's butler because you turn into one of those shitty vampires I don't know anderson you're thinking of a thrall or a familiar I'm saying I'm saying vampires can fucking kill you or turn you into a shitty vampire that has to do is stupid bit oh that's all I'm saying it's a bad outcome no matter what it's a deal woolly here's a skeleton can fucking kill you the bridge can kill you and it's a ghost sure so that's what I'm saying special special okay those special boss ghosts boss ghosts get are legit see this is what I was trying to get

at but it's like woolly you're making a distinction between what is essentially hauntings and malevolent spirit guys because our culture that's like making the that's like making the difference between twilight vampire man and robert patinson and fucking dracula no it's because our culture is a whole when we say ghosts 90 percent of the time we're not talking about special ghosts we're talking about no i'm talking about pissed off shitty ghosts that are gonna kill you and they just no but they don't kill you they just float around the houses and they just get people with the cameras and they and they get the readings to go off no man and they make noises and they go oh into the i'm saying that's 90 percent of the bullshit you hear on tv all the time having the special

ghosts are legit having that's real shit and you should be you should be scared if you saw a fucking some guy just phase through this wall and just appear you'd freak your fucking i'm not listen to what i'm saying very carefully it's very important hold on i'm not saying that i would not shit my pants i am saying that if it was that i would be way less scared from of that than i would a bigger crazy freaking real physical monster okay showing up okay so let's let's the lesser of two pants let me let me let me let me i would shit more if a physical thing broke through the wall i want a clear and then a ghost thing bleeding through the wall i want a very clear answer to a very obvious question okay a big green face comes out of the wall over there phase is through the wall

yeah it's just the face yeah it's like bleeding yeah it's like wooly something you know so i'll squirt a little bit yeah okay and it goes back in the wall right just like a mio squirt all right bam right in the door to our office opens yeah and a fucking grizzly bear starts to come in wait wait wait he opens the door no somebody opens like he gingerly turns the handle somebody opens and leans it and goes no no well bears can open doors they're smart enough to open doors okay and a grizzly bear just walks and sit and stand right there okay now you're gonna be more scared of the grizzly that you can just jump out that window to escape yeah yeah the nefarious here's why here's why your situation falls apart okay yeah because both of those things are not

and they're not analogs they're not the same thing one is a real thing confirmed that we know about and can study okay the other thing is totally but here's the thing bullshit we don't know nothing about wooly that's the fear of ghosts they're unknown but you have to take a monster that's physical not a ghost any monster that you know you know the deal if a physical monster comes through this door guess what an axe a gun anything you can defend yourself not at all no but not against a really strong one no you can't say really strong okay okay so the average we're just gonna say average as strong as a monster okay on its on its fucking marvel car yeah it's strength so what is it at okay picture zero being the lowest 70 in the highest for the purposes of this discussion yeah

we're gonna go with the like imagine the dumbest weakest halloween shop versions of these things okay okay so i'm at you know the little like like you know your okay uh kind of like classroom like like like your kindergarten classroom vampire yeah right or like a skeleton that only has human power or oh yeah yeah or your ghost it's just like a bed sheet with a face on it yeah or like a frankenstein with the nail with the bolts coming out right yeah like the dumbest versions okay that vampire you probably couldn't do shit with an axe oh that's wait are you serious okay now you're saying vampire i'm saying that guy let's go with vampire but like woolly a generic ass vampire you could do tons of shit to them with an axe yeah like but you wouldn't stop him i would you

not forever you could fuck them up really bad because he can turn into a bat he can regenerate he can fucking do you know what i mean like he's stronger than a normal person no hold on the dime the dollar store vampire doesn't have any of those high turns into a bat they always turn into bats at base level you don't think that you don't you don't think a dollar store vampire can turn into a bat i think higher level vampires can turn into bats the old i think it's something you learn you don't you don't think that's a level zero is turning into a bat no no you have to be alucard to fucking you have to be Dracula alucard etc but that's old-style vampire let the fucking count chocula is even like they always show those losers turning into bats he's a fucking starter

level vampire he's bullshit if he's a count he's high up so here's the deal you're saying you're you're comparing dollar store ghosts against like top tier vampires here all right all right we're losing the plot we're losing the plot we're losing the plot all right and also when you when you compare classes like this you don't you don't compare we're losing the you don't compare the fucking pub games and the fucking low tiers you you compare tiers based on the best players here's what it is here's what it is right that's Dracula versus uh ringu versus like like here's what it is if a zombie came to the door i'd rather fight a zombie if the unknowable freaky thing you know just leans in but it can't touch me yeah or do anything to me in a physical way yeah i'm not as

so you're just like haunting not a ghost okay i perhaps that's what that is a ghost that is malicious can totally touch you and kill you but that's not how like bullshit there's tiers of ghosts just like i guess i guess so but i mean you know what when the like i said what 90% of people are talking about a ghost they're just like don't let their idiocy club sure but you're you're making a spec you're being specific in a way that people are never specific they just say fucking ghosts and they just say fucking where because when you see a haunting you don't know if it's even or not well i guess no so if we have to break it down then logically yeah sure absolutely i have i have it i have it yeah patrick swayze yeah to me more yeah that's a ghost that's

a ghost right okay um uh for swedeker the movie poltergeist is a malevolent spirit that don't like shit what's happening and it is aggressive and throws things and fucks the shit up see that there's paranormal activity yeah which is a fucking demon that that appears in a ghostly form and eventually when enough fear has been established gets a physical form it can drag you into a thing and is powered by yeah that's a grudge that's super that's wasted so that's all we're saying is that no that's legit here's a ghost just like there's a shitty vampire or a zombie what about or like a superpower okay what about like backdraft where it's like the fire that's an elemental spirit okay those things those things are real because those real because those things can hurt you for

real real because they can take on the form of anything and fuck you up right that's that's in a category that i like a certain type of spirit right that can do a thing like that like use fire and whatnot man absolutely shit that's really so much cooler if there's a demonic side story right on on spooky ghosts yeah no i think it's just like uh connotatively right when people just kind of throw the words out there vernacular you may in fact be accurate that's what i'm saying but in the common vernacular i don't give a shit about you're sitting at a table with like horror trope experts here so like okay get more specific think about the fucking average stupid scooby-doo episode okay yeah think about but that's like a hundred percent some asshole in

a costume all the time yeah right except for the ones where they're like but wait that doesn't explain yeah then that guy goes yeah no i didn't fucking do that yeah yeah yeah right so think about those guys right every time there was a big frankenstein a monster a sludge creature yeah a right thing with bats fucking whatever it is winged yeah all of that they're running as a group for their lives from that thing that's about to kill them right even the axe knight with nothing in it yeah is like that's an armored thing with an axe hey guess what axe knights those are ghosts okay but whenever they would run into just a temporary uh temporal excuse excuse me like transparent hologram thing yeah where someone shone the the light in a way where they went it would be fucking scooby and

shaggy going but the rest are like what the fuck that's not a big deal and the big and like that's the type of thing that i'm like i don't care about that because they're a hardened supernatural ghost hunters for real real they don't they don't they don't scare there's that old lady there's that old lady is super tough like if you want to if you want to go real specific i could call that an apparition whereas ghost is like the umbrella term like ghost means like like canine yeah yeah and then then you have your subdivisions of types of donations yeah right whereas like that's an apparitions like a poodle sure or some shit so a spook i don't care about no spooks because if that if you don't have the power to rip my head off of my body yep eh let's say you're an old man that died in

your chair at worst you're giving me discomfort then like the worst you can possibly be is the shining where you make me go crazy but that was like a million that's really bad that's the worst you can do to me without actually touching me so crazy enough that you attack loved ones yeah yeah that's really bad you're a fucking merman doesn't make you do that no but he just fucking rips you apart does he or drowns you apart then kill my loved ones yeah that's bad but i'm just saying that's the worst that like clearly falls on the other side of that that's the but that's like the the worst it can be with like the the like you know psychological torture yeah versus like physical remember remember that when it comes down to psychological torture versus physical

right hold on hold on remember that ghost presence does eventually suck that person's soul into an infinite like purgatory yeah yeah but i mean a lost ghost can do that no but they did have to like kill them physically in the in the in the in the cold well the thing is woolly it's like if you see a ghost you can usually tell if it's if it can kill you or not because a person it's an old man wearing a hat and he's smiling right no problem if it's a decapitated screaming serious Sam guy with the bowling balls on his arms yeah you run from that if a hobo breaks in here with a knife i'm not gonna like it hey if a hobo breaks in here with a gun i'm really not gonna like it i have a question for you guys you know because i'm thinking maybe this is just me if a hobo broke in

right he's like i'm gonna get you that's the explicit phrasing right yeah and he's got a knife yeah is that scarier or less scary than if he's wielding a syringe that's personal to you that's your own horn i had that thought i was like man that's okay that is no it's not not at all i think you have to be more precise and more coordinated to kill someone with a syringe and and and here's why that's a logical because the syringe at worst will kill you after a delayed period of time yeah the knife will kill you now but then you don't know what's like there's no reason but an injection has to happen or logic behind that process that's the fear of ghosts because you don't know what's in that ghost i think i think i'm approaching in it i'm trying to approach it from a rational

point of view we're talking about fucking ghosts the thing that i'll yeah but within the context i just realized we started off hard for october them yeah no i know and that's why i kept it going because i thought it was thematically appropriate yeah uh them that's what it is is you can apply as much reason as possible to the scenario that is unknowable i actually really like uh certain myths or certain like as we were playing some shit storm games in which a bunch of games particularly from like east asia or career or something or fuck or thailand it's like ghosts have really rigid rules yeah in this culture it's like this ghost appears like this why because they died like this you can't hear you a legal rule can't come into your house unless you invite him

or a lot of asian countries say the baby monster but if you put a salt thing down in front of your door no no no that's not the baby monster okay i got kind of monster but if you put salt in front of your door then it's uh it's it's like a japan yeah you know that's that's that's kind of universal for a lot of it's a similar fan fires need to be invited in for both like china and like korea and like japan if you don't breathe ghosts don't know you're there like you're invisible to them because if you're not breathing right now you're dead you're dead for that for that time so you're able to sneak past them what if the ghost is is like more than just a ghost what if it's like a it's like a power spirit yeah and it possess power spirit power spirit yes and it possesses a

syringe it's okay so it's a power spirit that means it's the guy from geist it's the ghost with the elemental control of power and it's gonna possess a syringe now this is going to matter okay okay hold on i can break this down because it has power it means the syringe can break through any wall at any time no it can't because it's a physical object the ghost possesses the the syringe the ghost can alter the contents of the syringe they can alter the feel of the syringe they can alter the desirability also it can pull blood into the syringe yeah it can alter the desirability of the syringe and if it's really strong anybody who picks up the syringe could possibly be influenced around its control what you really want to worry about is a poltergeist

because a poltergeist will just literally put the syringe up and throw it at you yeah it's bad yeah or like a syringe that's like it follows where it can only approach you at a slow speed but it will never stop it's just slowly it's real bad it will always come for you straight straight to your veins i didn't watch you really didn't need to do that part i didn't watch it yet really you're really if you want to push buttons we can sit here and push buttons i'm i'm trying to maximize i didn't watch you if there's a horror movie side trailer for last night called the the red red walks or trail of red yeah it's about a woman lost in the desert and there's one zombie following her oh that's great so very slow but you're alone so i don't know i over a certain

length of time that threat becomes like trivialized doesn't it you gotta sleep you gotta sleep but that's the other thing too is like is it zombie that like if i get a blood splatter on like my eye i'm turned it seems like a very regular zombie because if it's one of those it's not a it's not a 28 weeks later zombie okay the infected from from the the weeks or days series whatever you call it they're they're busted their op the the most op is um um day of the day day of the day yeah yeah oh god yeah because it's like no your reasons for existing are simply that we ran out of room in hell walking dead is very similar and that's just a cool tag line it's not there's not actual but no but what i mean is that like the the source is not like oh there was an infection of some

kind or whatever the source is anything that dies is now turning any human being that dies all death yeah has become zombie yeah that's like if you were able to clean up the planet you know totally actually work that that'd be workable right hey jimmy looks a little sick put them in the box you know whatever right uh but but man that's dull there's no winning that oh grandpa looks kind of crappy oh there he goes then a human nature uh and fear of like you know like protecting yourself versus the crowd means there's no winning that oh man even if you were on an island nation or floating out on a boat in sea land or whatever they would just they eventually get to you oh yeah it's like um the remake of uh dawn of the dead where the very ender in the

credits they find a boat they get to an island and they're like well there are other people who had that idea there's lots of people on an island yeah and they still get fucked up so and then all it takes is one person dying and your safety measure to like for any reason exactly so so are we done with spookiness yeah it's actually established in the newer in the remake of dawn of the dead i think it's it's pure virus no it's the pure bites specifically in the old one right was where it was that most i think it's never been more powerful than in the original especially when you had dude like brains brains right well that's that's uh return return to the living dead yeah but that but that that's the most overpowered shit because that one is not just the fact that they're

like the dead are all coming back all the time but if you cut an arm off that arm is on its own now doing its thing yeah if you cut a finger off that finger is doing its yeah there's a great scene at the beginning of uh return to the living dead where they run into the one zombie and they're like okay shit so they're like okay they immobilize it and they cut its head off and then the head starts crawling around biting i actually think the most op is whatever the generalized evil is an evil dead because that resurrects things that shouldn't even be like that's a demon functional yeah but like it still makes zombies but they're like demons occupy this weird space between monster and ghost because they can do anything that the story needs them to be able to have fucking infinity

stones but demons have rules but you never know what they are and some demons don't have there's a bunch of demons that you're told they have rules and then when they're like when you do the steps they're like yeah you're right you're right i good but i'm thinking of like the summoning circles and the bullshit like that right those it's like you you feel like there's rules to it so like i don't know i feel like that's way worse to propagate their weaknesses and then laugh at them when you try when you try to explain i sure ate those crosses yeah yeah yeah they're like holy water oh no tickles exactly it's pretty smart it's pretty smart yeah right the greatest trick the devil over polders convincing the world he doesn't exist you can sure kill me by sending me

orios yeah yeah yeah all eventually well yeah that's pretty good um but yeah that that's all it is fun that's all it is i would love to fight a demon that you pull the cross out and he's like i like this yeah let me rub it all over my body feels good oh like oh man that's oh it's the opposite i should have looked up this christ guy a while ago reminds me of some stuff never mind never mind never mind that that that whole conversation that i was creating in my mind has no value yeah it's not worth it we were talking about your wheeling yeah you how many ghosts and or monsters did you fight well before that i want to talk about blue hosts okay okay that's fine too support for our show today comes from blue hosts they're the good

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on willy is something we can all get by do you remember that but i really wouldn't even mind that much do you remember that buffy episode in the first season where they scanned this ancient book that a demon got sealed in yes they became a computer ghost and they made a robot demon body and they killed itself because he liked willow and then then uh yeah she you know what she did right i forgot how she told him the ending of how i met your mother and he killed himself and then joss weeden had sex with her behind the scenes he sure did i missed that on some some news gossip it's it's it couldn't be less important okay i struggle to care okay all right i want to see lockjaw where's lockjaw at who's lockjaw he's the big drooling giant dog and the inhuman oh he's

totally there super there no no i i just want to see him yeah i know he's there teleporting people around and this one is not working so we'll just have to move on for now wow okay um right so what did you punch the ghost um i tried but then nothing happens because they don't fucking do anything punch the wall and then they how would you i how would you feel if like a ghost like did this annoying bullshit where it could move around freely and it like just hung out like kind of overlapping with your torso at all times talking shit well then he could think it's a stand so what you have to do for all stands our ghosts for every one of these hypotheticals you have to preface it or tag it with instead of a monster hunting and killing you yeah okay you

know and in which case does it boy that would suck does it change if the monster is potentially killable how easy it'd be really hard can i just get like a weapon of a traditional type because most monsters like in in in like horror fiction yeah like if your local police department just showed up and they all shot it under time can it be knocked unconscious with a concussive force no okay you can only murder it and does it require like like like decapitation or is it just like let's say it's a werewolf so yeah you could you can get it through the heart you can that's not a werewolf thing but you i mean if you did it it would die no if you impaled a werewolf for the heart it wouldn't die that's who hold on werewolf it's a big wolf man what's the werewolf

rule silver it does it have to be silver yeah or to kill yeah can you not just dismember them no they they just reorganize their body parts together so that's horrible that's done in uh the monster squad uh werewolf literally gets blown up by a stick of dynamite in his jocks just blows up and then all these pieces reattached to him and needs a silver bullet so if you might go to if you road-roller'd a fucking werewolf if you've like steamed flat steam rolled it flat here's you're telling me it would come back after that yes because all right but you that sounds crazy you made like an acme sort of situation where you got the keys to a steam roller i believe you but that sounds crazy here's the thing and here's where you can say that about any monster here's

where nearly all monster like rules start to break and i remember talking to somebody about this because we were talking about wolverine and how uh infinite healing would suck and it's like okay any any monster that has like a physical body right and like absurd regenerative abilities right there's two ways you can deal with them right one is you can incinerate them to like down to the particle we're still on our bullshit right back on our bullshit like we'll never figure how well even sell even sell couldn't get back from being vaporized wasn't a busy week right that's fine uh and the other thing is immobilization like your rule woolly about a steam roller that's not great to kill it it wasn't a rule it was just like so your idea about a steam roller

that's not great to kill it but if you can get like 90 percent of the werewolf underneath the roller and then you park it just park it and then you park that's what that's what i mean if you park it then maybe maybe yeah you pull the keys out and then you build a little pyramid around the steam the steam roller yeah and i just cement it out and you just whistle grab your lunchbox and go home and then you piss on it sure yeah right what was don't like that yeah no totally vampires also have this problem so do robo cops i think when saline from underworld she never thought about using a steam roller or like if you took like a you took a werewolf and you just like threw him in a huge acid bath yeah it's like he can heal and regenerate but he's melting so hard and so

fast that he's never really you know or like lava and see right now now we're getting into the scenario the scenario that you're fighting a werewolf on the precipice of a volcano yeah is amazing yeah because the because you know he's going in and he's not gonna die but then he's gonna just burn forever so fuck it or get out of it turn into a burning rage lava wolf now now that you created a new cryptid idiot now that you mentioned it because you mentioned volcanoes and regeneration i'm like there's another way to beat a regenerating enemy and that's you launch them into space into space what are they gonna do nothing i'm really disappointed that nemu wasn't launched into space uh no no mu but anyway anyway i thought he was i thought he was a second and then it turned out

it was like a smash brother you know why where you bounce off the ceiling and then hit the fucking like a couple yards in front of you guys aren't allowed to murder people of course never only villains do that never do that never ever um yeah no honestly it wasn't that eventful week like i said i caught up to hero aca and now you're done it sucks macadamia is good i'm enjoying it nope now i'm doing it more um you're gonna you're gonna start reading the manga no no no i'm not you don't read the manga i'm fine as i am right now only villains do that and um i mean unless that side story vigilante thing never gets animated in which case it will never get animated it will never get mark it right now right here today live on the podcast october 2nd it will never get

animated i don't know i have an actual pretty good track record for saying things that will never happen uh yeah i mean i don't know like i guess we could do a spoiler cast sometime but it'd be weird because what is there to talk about yeah it's so early in the show right like it's it hasn't really even not enough lines really there yet back it goes a cunt and we've seen our uh fuck that guy our captain garlock moment yeah right we've had you have that teased already so you're like all right this is where we're gonna go this is where we're heading boy that's something hope so hope hope for good things looks cool and and you know what always gets me in those moments whenever you have a peak at the future where we don't know what it is but our main character looks cool doing it yeah

every time you have one of those moments what gets me and what i love and what they almost always never really do is to make the moment work the hero has to show supreme confidence and even almost like enjoying what they're doing so like right at the beginning of season two of hero academia he goes like oh this is good this is the story of how i became the greatest and it cuts to like infinity villains on the horizon and he's like bring it on yeah it's great and it's the same thing with gurin when you get moment zero episode one or he's like every light in the in the sky is an enemy i mean obviously they twisted that line around for the real thing but what the point is is that you see a sense of cockiness that you're like yeah this guy that

was frail is totally fucking doing it and he's like he's got the attitude we're gonna get there one day but when you actually get there a lot of the time they don't do that because they stay frail and because they're like i have a moment where i'm full of passion because i just lost someone important or something has caused this moment to happen but you never get the the the personality switched to the point where they're like no no i got this and i know what the fuck i'm doing that's and i really want to see that after the story yeah i want that moment that would be before the story ends in a long time i want the cocky smile in the midst of the bullshit to show that they've got it no because that's not dramatic i it isn't he's right but then don't fake it to make the moment

work better it works they fake it because you know the moment the moment works so well it makes you really excited it does and then you don't get the real thing oh there's a there's a bit in the manga that was uh not mentioned in the fucking uh the fucking anime you know that third nomu the one with the tongue thing the flies yeah yeah that's one of the fucking childhood bullies from like the first episode oh that's good yeah but no one ever finds out i think they do i think it's mentioned in the that's cool but like that's cool that's really that's dark oh and that's why he does what he does at the last second yeah and picks a specific person oh man we're really just throwing random shit around but oh whatever i i know but then then focus up yeah i'm trying to focus up your best

what happened to your focus never had it call never had any focus he did actually like literally your meter bar was called focus but he usually doesn't have it yeah you always have it every time you drink like beer you have it medium punch help you focus it doesn't plus medium kick absorb it yeah uh yeah no man um i yeah i i like had some out of town uh friends so like we just hung out i didn't really have time to do much um you know whatever fun things around the city more axe throwing more more axe throwing steel mats gimmick now more um board game bar oh yeah yeah yeah there's one on this on the street that we're on too yeah that's that's that's that's one of the things that was checked out as well um yeah there's some cool stuff and

like the idea of um there's this one game we play called coop if you want to do it though if you pronounce probably coop in english i don't know why i thought you're doing it french about cooper me too no coop like coup dita and uh it's over that's a really fun game as well that's um it's it's similar to secret hitler in the sense that it's like everyone has have you played secret hitler no but i know it's amazing it's tons of fun we played that too secret hitler is really good you should play um but the but coup is like a game where everyone has a role that's basically a different class and uh you're all like different types of um bourgeoisie yeah except for like an assassin and uh yeah basically what you have it's like you go

around the table and you take money and then uh you take i like this game and then each person takes money and when you have a certain amount of coins you can kill somebody right but uh to mix that up you basically your role is hidden but you can pretend to be anybody else until someone calls you on your bullshit and if they call you on your bullshit and they're right you you lose a character you die or if they're wrong they die type of thing and you can be like i'm the duke i'm the guy with the biggest like uh i can reach in biggest dick i can fucking reach in and takes uh like a ton of coins with one hand yeah right and like if no one wants to risk it they'll be like okay we'll just let it what if everyone's like i'm the duke well that's that's then someone's got to start calling

and you know and you know the number of dukes there are in the deck so there's a chance that there's three of them on the table at a time i'm spartacus yeah i'm spartacus but you have two characters you're not just one uh because that would make too easy so exactly right so you have two classes that you can be mixing uh and maximum so at best you have a 50% chance exactly i'm spartacus and that and just that nature of the game is pretty fun um and makes you fucking do the larry david stare and everybody the no not that one we're thinking of we're thinking of the i think larry larry david thinks you're lying i think you're full of shit okay but i'm like i think you were stomping on my on the roof of my apartment for fun yeah you're using parkinsons as a cover

michael j fox and then you're like and then michael just goes no all parkinsons and he's okay okay yeah all right you can tell he never actually believes them um ever yeah so that's that's a that's a fun game worth checking out and uh i guess there's other there's all kinds of crazy variants of like jenga now that people have that are like way better than jenga um and they have like all like i don't even remember the name like there's two and i don't remember the names of either of them but like they're both like super fun there's one where it's like you have um multiple a grid of nine colors and like uh you pull a card out and the color the the card will either say stack onto this color oh man or it'll say take this stack and put it underneath that stack

jeez you know or it'll be like put the highest possible shape on this stack and they know just all kinds of bullshit like that so you have multiple jenga towers basically yeah and you have to make them interact with each other i don't like that and it's way harder um and there's another one where it's like you have your own personal like jenga tower and every turn you reach from into the pile and pull out a new piece but depending on what card you pull out you might get like a rounded piece where there's like you pulled out a sphere fit it in there somehow you're like but i can't is it get well i guess you lose that yeah and but then they have like a like a half sphere right where it's like you can place it flat but the top fucking sucks yeah or

you can try and place it with the flat top part up but you need a perfect base exactly so and then you can be you can and then there's other cards that are like gives that piece to someone else so you could just get these bullshit pieces where you're like what the fuck am i supposed to do under the bomb piece too bad you know syringe piece yeah what so that there's stuff like that that's really really fun as well um and i mean i don't know um marvel continued to happen tell me about marvel um i'm i got that spider-man dlc code oh yeah i watched i got home come did you you bought homecoming and you got it i didn't get it that sucks i bought the fucking movie which i was happy to watch it gave you the code it did not give me the code it said look for an email and your

email inbox like within an hour check your spams i'll check my spam the costume is not even that cool there's soup it's literally the iron spider with the fucking legs coming out of his back i thought i saw it online i thought it was just like a silver sort of version of it no okay maybe i saw the wrong thing okay but i was hoping it would be the yellow jacket because that would be cool too man yellow jacket the thing he's wearing on the cover of homecoming oh no no the debate club jacket i thought that would be more fun with the headphones on yeah i know it's fun but it's not that it's it's it's fucking comic book inspired but yeah what do you what do you want to know about what marvel oh what's what's up um i'm it's it's a fun game to play how's marvel it's a fun

game to play you know how's that it's um i've i've you know learned some more and i was learned how's the fight game people about marvel overall you know we're still playing are you okay waiting for dlc yeah that's what they're doing that's weird let's start her out no oh they had a trailer they had asked her a while ago it's trailer like last week right no you'll wait i expected the the character to be out by now no reality stoned reality stoned web shot reality stoned reality stoned i love that picture of 60s 260 spider-man staring at each other and there's reality so something i something i thoroughly enjoy in in early fighting games right and it's interesting when you say early do you mean old ones or do you mean the early days of the

early days of a fighting game right is i will do this a lot constantly is whatever people are relying on and spamming where it's like i where it's like you're kind of garbage but you have one thing you figured out and it's pretty good and that's gotten you way past where you should be online i will have a thing that's dedicated towards making you look dumb yeah and i will just do that until you have it you don't have that ability anymore and i'm like are you ready to fight do you have a neutral game are you ready to play so what's the deal with spider-man's reality stuff well it doesn't have to be spider-man but it's more just like when your whole thing right now a lot of really bad players their whole thing is just i'm going to shoot out this little

tracking fireball which means if you land a hit on me this interrupts it right and then they play and then they don't have a game plan around it but they just rely on defense yeah so you play Thanos and you play power stone and basically you wait for them to do it and then you teleport behind them and wall bounce them and then it's like and then you have a wall bounce and you go and then it do a mass you go from there and it's like okay now that we've established you don't have this thing anymore do you want to play the game and that's it's part of the reason why like i picked nicali early on besides the obvious yeah i really like the fact that nicali was like guess what fuck your fireball he ignores the fireball game in a lot of respect okay you want

to throw it out again okay ground pounds we got slashes we got dive kicks we got like eight different ways to go fuck your fireball come again characters that like work to like de-incentivize the fireball game yes but nicali is like all of that in one person yeah he might as well get life back for getting hit by every single thing he does negates fireballs yeah yeah yeah so that's that's i'm a fan of that where i'm like okay now you have to play you know and then you then that person at that point might realize oh it's time to play and more often than not that leads to a disconnection message at the end of the match what how do they deal with this well so far the because that person quits but you stay connected everything the match still counts everything

goes through hey look at that right but you just get a little pop-up saying oh network error at the end of the match but it's like no no no they know what so here's the thing that i never stood about those disconnections shenanigans a lot of time people go well what about people with bad connections you know they shouldn't get a loss just because they're internet crap down and i guess my answer to that is yes they should if you if you go to a tournament or you go to a physical event and you fall asleep in the middle of your match and or you trip and fall off the stage or leave like you should lose we discussed it multiple times but it's the idea that like you know you have won a speed test to begin with to show if you can play ranked and if you can't then you

play casual games and if you go into ranked and your speed test says you you're fast enough you can play and then you disconnect early from the game and it happens more than once then you should get a thing on your account that goes you're a rage quitter and you should have an achievement that unlocks that has zero points it says you're a rage quitter i think and you should have a little jail icon that says you're now in rage quit jail i think that it should be a nice like if you do it three times within a day or something like that right because if you do it once a day that's not really what they need to have because kai came up with the rage quit jail system which didn't work initially because it just didn't i don't know whatever oh it just didn't function okay but the idea was good

where it's like you get to fight other rage quitters right you get to see how it feels but then what needs to happen after that is if you keep rage quitting against rage quitters in jail then you need to go to double jail yeah super jay right where you're stuck in the double jail for rage quitting and then you fight people that always rage quit constantly right yeah and then there can probably be a threshold on that where it's like if you rage quit like 20 matches in a row non-stop well now you're in solitary confinement yeah you go it says that you can play online but you can't so you know or like it like you're connecting but then you just fight the ai you know it's like like the nintendo approach and then the ai rage quits yeah

yeah it's if you fight against an impossibly hard ai difficulty and the ai always rage quits on you it's about to win and then it rage quit that would be fucking great yeah no um whatever anyway that's that you know that's that's it i'm i did a bit of that and i didn't have time for much else unfortunately oh that's not true i played more summer lesson and i played uh-huh some other i went back to the vr and i and i spent i buckled down and put more time in on that because i was doing that with friends and uh more more summer lesson than more idle master uh-huh with friends with friends yep and i have multiple people in the apartment and i have to i have to get ready for for for um summer lesson super bitch mode or like step on me step on me

oh joe sama please oh addition so um you have to i'm happy that my vr headset is not broken and that it was just the new configuration for the new place yeah i would never got mine working properly ever that sucks oh it it always like tracks wrong uh willy i've been corrected it's actually superior spider man that you get and you have a uh iron spider color along with spider guen colors okay that's what you get have it pictures of it there but you do have weird spindly legs yeah okay so this i saw this one i saw i saw someone that had this online and i was like oh it's just the silver arms it was i was like yeah that's all right it was it wasn't super get spider guen colors spider colors are nice and the and the and the uh iron spider colors are nice yeah

but the default one with just the metal on it is like yeah it's it's all right still cool though as a freebie for i would rather headset and yellow jacket personally sure i would also rather good game characters okay because it is a good game as opposed to as we were shocked i had to correct myself there we were kind of being power kind of disappointed it was yeah i know you guys love that you love that oh no it's my disappointment stems from this place it's like it's a lot of fun to shit on a game when it's just bad but it's a lot less fun to shit on a game when it's like good parts of it are bad but like there's good in there and the whole thing just becomes disappointing yeah instead of a fun thing to point at but you know it's worse than that what lying about it

what do you mean lie pretending that it's worse than it is trying to find things that don't exist oh yeah no that being just being shitty like no the truth is unless it's fun unless it's fun to do those things but no but yes but but i'd write again no because being honest here is that that's what makes it worse the part where the gameplay is good yeah you know and and whatnot makes it a bittersweet thing i saw more hidden things in the uh new york uh metro city stage there's a big billboard that has a debate mike mayor mayor mike haggar versus j jones jameson oh interesting we've never seen haggars debating powers i'm sure they're good because he's a wrestler i guess he's he's probably like rob ford he's probably just like got nothing but just haggar haggar is a

combination of a pro wrestler and um arnold schwarzenegger so jesse the body venterra or just arnold schwarzenegger yeah i mean as schwarzenegger was a governor california governor california yeah and like jesse was governor minnesota one's harder than the other yes i was a navy seer oh i am the harpy system oh man the weather gets mind control uh follow my show off the grid how can your show be off the grid i'm off the grid in mexico i was in mexico also have a grid yeah like it's very well known grid i was a navy seer i was a fighter a wrestler i fought for my creditor and i believe oh man oh painless oh man there you got anything else no yeah what do you got well you got a slack jod what

yeah what i mean sexual tyrannosaur that's the line people like what'd you do this week pat uh so it's funny that we mentioned uh marvel because i didn't cuphead uh but oh i did play cuphead uh i really have one thing to add to what you said about cuphead is that it's a pretty hard game yeah but it's not nearly as hard as i was expecting it's not nearly as hard as dean tec ahashi made it look like well yeah dean tec ahashi has a long history of making things so hard when i played through that tutorial i'm like okay here's the moment and i'm just staring at the screen that says press y in midair to dash i'm just now that i'm looking at it from my screen now i can finally understand that what the fuck how do you not yeah it's shocking it really is like i know this is

being a dead horse but i'm like i still don't understand the hottest takes a bit now that i'm like because because it's like i don't know it's like maybe the screen was blurry maybe the graphics were not as sharp as it looked like in this video it's like nope nope uh like i'd say contra 4 is probably harder than cuphead contra 4 is harder and um yeah can we get a new contra 4 no just wait contra 4 a re-release of contra 4 i want a new contra 4 i want contra 4 the second runner contra 4 too yeah okay that's all because contra 4 is my favorite contra so i want really interesting i want contra it's good i adore contra 4 uh god like okay here's where it's at i'm not gonna debate it there's no strong ass contenders here here's the problem you're fighting

nostalgia so well for me like well here's the thing i got the super nintendo classic super c i played through contra 3 again or like a little bit and i'm just like ass i alien alien wars is just here here is that i need to i need to specify why contra 4 is my favorite yeah okay why the main campaign i think is just as good as any of the others yeah but the thing that pushes contra 4 over the edge for me is the challenge mode yeah yeah yeah uh because none of the other ones have challenged right adding a bloody and i never beat contra 4 like on normal or hard either did i i got to the last level and you just couldn't do it but i did all the fucking challenges that's hard which i like everyone i talked to was like how did you not beat the main game but you beat all

the challenges like i don't know yeah the bite size little contra thing um blame you know okay so it's been a lot it's yeah we're we're passing at this point so it's pretty much okay directly blame billy yeah because billy that back in the days billy was qa on contra 4 was and well we all but yeah all you guys were but billy was since billy's a fucking contra god yeah right he was the difficulty like tester that was basically like i can do it that means any human being can and like it was like shit they're like he basically was able to verify no no humans can do this it's fine it's possible because i couldn't because fucking billy the beast i'm not a human that's that's fucked up was able to like he was able to do it therefore anyone else should be able to do

that's him that's him so your favorite contra is as hard as it is because a fucking billy good that means i can always go back to it yeah um but it's interesting that we talked about marvel because that was actually a long segue for what i wanted to talk about which was um so after the after we recorded the fisticust and usually spoke a little bit more about marvel and about like its place and its timing and stuff like that and he mentioned that like you compare it to something like killer instinct which what was the phrase you use something about uh which is approaching like smash brothers levels of unnecessary unnecessary content right yeah and like i think the day after or like a few days later killers and came out on steam finally which like now that i didn't have to i bought it on

on the windows store but it always gave me trouble like every time like i bought on the windows store and it got zero trouble i bought the steam version massive trouble weird on this computer it will run in nothing but uh like oh that's a that's a that's a known bug that was on the day one and two patches came out that day okay because i bought it on launch day and it would not run anything lower than i can fix that okay it's cool seeing like total biscuit going like oh wow the menus go because so many people like wouldn't give it a chance because of whatever it was no chances it would i'm like it needs to be like we are years late to the party but it's okay guys i just need to have fun with it i need one second sure matt says that will never come out on steam

that stupid microsoft will never do it it is on steam right now ha oh i said that at some point you said that many times okay um i'm glad to be wrong but you didn't care that much about it so there's no there's no good feeling here um but i you know like like many of the people you just described i never gave kia shop because they didn't have an exponent because when i tried to get the windows version i would always have to fight it uh initially disappointing is the resolution bug that you just mentioned where every single person that i know that bought the game the day came out ran into that resolution bug of some kind of like why can't i go higher than 720 with the fuck and direct input controllers are not supported uh which sucks uh however i put some time in and

some other friends of mine got it at the same time and boy boy i really like killer instincts a whole lot uh oh uh oh it's like four years uh oh cue them giant check giant novelty check alert here it comes big k i money big microsoft bucks i wish uh no it's fantastic and why you got a shill i'm glad i'm glad to like how do i put this i don't know how i feel about it because i on the one hand like i wish i'd gotten gotten into it earlier because like i would have been on the train but at the same time like girls all over again it i know i'd say it's like a more intense versus skull girls because like the cast has like quadrupled since launch at this point and like many like my favorite character right now is one of the dead last to be added which was ram you like

general ram yeah general ram really i don't like general i don't like him either i love him i think he's great okay and spinal and thunder of course thunder thunder's the best um and uh but man what is like is that game just over now what's the deal yep you're too late it's over in terms of actual content being added in no i mean like in terms of playing it casually yeah yeah you're too late no there's competitively it's still going it just came out it's going super well steam for a steam audience yeah i'll be gone there is a late adop adopter crowd that are playing on steam right now so you can join that literally cross play on all three versions yeah like there's still gonna be a large but i mean you can still make a lobby and still play against the but i mean like as far as

like fever pitch goes and all that it's like yeah it's on steam because they're finally decided it's been long enough and we kind of don't care anymore so that's really disappointing they maxed out the sales on xbox they maxed out the sales that it went to wait for a window store so then then they want to max out the last and that's why i was asking you the other day it's like well when's killer sting too well here's my question now well and guess what you already got it and possibly three yeah because of the amount of shit that's gone in to over the years now here's what i want to know based on this and based on similar experiences because yeah skull girls is not the same thing but it's a very similar thing and whatnot when fantastic game comes out but is inaccessible

due to for whatever for whatever reason right it's like it's totally understandable when it's like okay i'm not i don't have the money you're not going to shell out for this because i don't have that thing or whatever but if it's something that you can get you can get but you're just like i don't want to what do you mean exactly like windows like physically acquire or no windows like windows store for example where it's like you can get this on your computer it's just yeah right do you now knowing that game is excellent would you still go do it or would you still hold out i knew the game was excellent i didn't know that i like i would like it this much but like i bought on the windows store and every time i fucking went to play it i had problems

okay like i'm just trying i'm trying to figure out is games for windows live again because i'm trying to i'm trying to figure out if like you're willing to like if that had been like the bullet if you like the game had that been hassle for not like into to actually start it up and play it yes what was the actual problem like or like origin my start bar i would click i would type in killer it would pop up i'd click on it and then it would start so what was what it would either it would either not do that or my fucking credentials would be fucking wrong or it would be unstable you know i think the issue was the fact that since i already owned it on xbox one and then i had like my windows account is just like my hotmail account i think if you own it

previously and then you buy it on the windows store then it it just instantly updated with all my trophy data all everything i've unlocked and it would just go it would just go maybe that it did not just go for me it was super frustrating couldn't stand it also the other beat the version of that like it i remember originally having like goofy goofy the way windows apps come out when i has really bizarre performance when i first booted it up when i for i literally first booted up the pc like windows store version at team four stars computers and for some reason everything would go in slow motion that's a fun one yeah that's and i you would need to i hate skull girls was a completely different situation well skull girls is like i can't stand i remember i remember that's

why that's why i expanded the you know the question to say like including that things like that too but i just i'm it bums me out like i'm not gonna play a game where i think every single character looks like shit sure it bums me out to say that um like a game especially like a fighting game it's like right it's like yeah unfortunately that time is past type of thing because i'm like once upon a time if it was in an arcade cabinet who cares it the cabinet would be around somewhere yeah it's very you know what i mean like okay the online's not as popping as it used to be but whatever they're still the game is out it exists and people will still play it because you'll run into it sometimes you know um and like yeah now we kind of live in an age where

since that doesn't exist and there's so many choices with fighters and whatnot that like there is that sort of spike period and then something really good doesn't matter how good we'll still just kind of drone off in popularity until it's just i'll say competitive left at least fucking at least fucking microsoft ip's will show up on pc and steam yeah it's like if you're if you don't have a playstation 4 you're basically fucked you're gonna miss a bunch of amazing titles but there's at least sony published ones but there's certain there's certain types of games where it's like there's no boat to be missed you know what i mean like certain like first person shooters moba things like that like the certain games are just like nope it's out and it's here to stay and that's

it you want to play counter strike guess what you'll always be able to play cards no matter what right and and like it hurts but it's just it's the nature of being a slight a niche genre you know which means that since you're a fan of fighting games that like it you know it sucks but like yeah diligence on that is a thing where you're kind of like fuck if i do like this thing there is a time window in which it yeah but i i feel like killer instinct was like the most extreme of all of those and that it's like it's an exclusive on a console that you personally have no reason to buy right i don't mean you i mean like you yeah right i have personally no reason to buy this it unless it's for killer instinct i'm not gonna buy a fucking console

for just that game especially not when it what it was at launch bought a dreamcast for third strike third killer instinct is not third strike i hear you don't even don't i'm i'm i'm i'm introducing the concept of i've bought consoles for fighting games right but like when killer instinct came out it was like six characters yeah like i mean now i wasn't six characters but it was literally was thank you thank you for being condescending six characters then they added spinal and full gore over the next couple of months then that was okay the end of um uh double helix's thing and my bad my bad yeah uh right six character fighting games like ah right and then it's like okay well it's it stayed there for ages like it took a like years for it to come to even the window store

it was six characters but it was 20 bucks yeah or or free but with jago it was free with jago and then they started rotating the characters i feel like you know because even if we look at a game what you know like what what was the point where i was supposed to take the the the quote unquote risk i even bought the whole fucking thing on pc and then couldn't play it well yeah and and i think about like you know like even if yes or no are you gonna buy an xbox one x maybe if you see it in a store you'll get it but like you're not gonna go out and get it so the reason i have a PlayStation 4 pro now is because sony puts out a shitload of first party exclusives that i want to play that i really want to play yes yes of course i don't care about forza i don't care about

years or and i don't i don't care about halo you want the most powerful console ever made if it so that affects you on a spiritual level level exactly but then the question becomes is there a third party game yeah that i really really want to play that is substantially better on the xbox one x if so then yes the only thing i can literally think of and i don't even think you've played it maybe you have is like tomb raider yeah or no i mean i mean going forward there's gonna be to backtrack a little bit uh the the news articles that come out like like the one this week about uh dead or alive the free to play edition having 10 million downloads yeah is crazy super interesting to me and i need and i need to keep on top of that type of news because

what i love to find out about is in a world where even let's say a game like ki or something else that was like really really good it's like in a world where it's free i think it's a huge missed opportunity on steam and and windows that there is no free to play version of it in a world where excellent fighting game is free will that be enough to keep a sustained population it hasn't popped yet you know nobody's actually given it the shot will that be enough or will that itself still go by the wayside after a couple months the one fighter being free and killer instinct is like that was fine for a while yeah but now they should have expanded it to be like six or eight fighters that are free well and then everyone else you gotta pay like like like a percentage of the

roster almost right like general ram and arbiter should always not be free yes because that would get like you'll look at uh because when when total biscuit played the game he was like who the fuck is this oh it's the fucking arbiter i don't know the fucking arbiter was in this what the fuck yeah and i'm like wow that talks about two things one they did a shit job at marketing the arbiter and two like then you're discovering like yeah there's fucking guest characters in this game dude people it's like it's like it's like it's like a guest character in a card game if you don't pay attention to card games why would you hear about why don't you hear about it so now there there are like two main types of business models that they could go on right in the free to play i don't

want to forget about okay so you got dota which is everything is fucking free but there's you are drowning in cosmetics yes and to the point where the community is allowed to make new cosmetics yeah and right i don't think that's ever gonna happen for a fighter i think the for a fighting game character the amount of assets you'd have to create for a full model is like too much for that kind of community involvement so instead you go for the league slash hot thing you have the rotating set of free guys so say killer instincts uh what was it 29 characters now 28 29 three seasons okay three seasons plus two say one quarter of those are free to play every week or every two weeks right and if you really and you discover hey one of these i want them

to be my main use the free to play currency or you buy them for a couple bucks right that is a that is what i see as the the good idea for the free to play fighting game for the future apparently heats wanted that and microsoft wouldn't go for it fuck that sucks that would have done so well yeah might oh right apparently apparently that's that's that's one of the things that you know he also thinks full gore is top tier but he's not yeah but until you're a top player you don't know um you can just say no you're you're using them wrong he can he can't he can't say that well his wife said he wasn't but i mean here's the thing is that if you are uh looking at a game that has like i said like 10 million downloads downloads right dead or alive five uh whatever something

like six million like right a year ago they announced like congratulations to kill us again six million players now that doesn't mean that includes free people but that doesn't mean shit when you're looking at active players right so you need to look at active players to see it's like okay who's downloaded this for free but it actually stays and plays it right yeah because because basically that fade-off that happens with every fighting game will of course happen with the free to play one sure but i want to know like what would that original number is so large if it's free the exactly that that that the sustainability and the fact that there's no window it's really just forever that you can play this that's um that's what you want to achieve here and what i wonder about is like

is it just due to this the the multiplayer nature of this game inherently that you can't sustain a large audience in that way i see i see do you need more than just cinematic single player campaigns do you need what effectively is a side scrolling like character action game i i see two out of your fighter to really get people's attention and have them stick with it because remember dark souls has a massive awesome multiplayer function that people treat like a fighting game yes stuck in the middle of a giant single player campaign yeah you know and like i'm like do you need people's attention like that where it's not the primary thing they're coming for even they're buying it for that single player campaign but you have an awesome competitive thing in the

middle of that all right so here's here's the way that i see it break down in terms of like because we've had years to see that that like it's just not enough i similarly sorry and i want to say that the goals i'm thinking of are like like massive global this game is getting played stark pub g yeah yeah yeah go on so okay so fighting games i think because i have i have similar thoughts because i thought firefight was going to be the one that actually tried it and then they they pushed out and then killer instinct on pc doesn't do it either and then so okay there's a couple problems with fighting games specifically number one is that all of these big giant super free to play games they're all team based yeah all of them cooperative they all have

they're all games you can play with a group of your friends and this i'm including mmo's as well yeah yeah having like right now with me playing file fantasy 14 for example it's more about the guys that i hang out with in a discord nearly every single day than the actual game itself that's just the thing that we happen to play or hot or whatever right yeah but you know people have their dota team of them and their three or four guys at work right or or their family members or whatever right and fighting games not only do they not have that but like between any group of friends any group of family anything skill levels form and you know your older brother or your younger sister or whatever they're gonna stomp you and that discourages people right yeah of course also

in fighting games is the longstanding thing of like there's no one to blame but yourself when you get stomped or maybe your opponent it wasn't your cooperation yeah it wasn't the team it wasn't you know yeah right the other thing and i think it's an issue of platform so all of the the really super super gigantic ones have been on pcs and part of the reason is that it's like over long enough time like starcraft only got more popular over time because everybody could run fucking starcraft yeah right everybody can run dota and league of legends and and all the end counter strike even right so it becomes like ubiquitous but the problem is that is that fighting games aren't generally popular on pc because they've been poorly supported or they come later or

all the really intense guys play on uh consoles and all tournament standards are set on consoles and stuff like that yeah like you want you want you want that game it has to come out day and date on the pc and it also has to have the kind of infrastructure that these kinds of games actually support and have yeah and so that's that i don't see that happen no that's and that supports exactly what i'm talking about where i think that the only way to get to that level because once again you know i talked about a couple times when i feel like you know like mobs came along like there's always a genre that takes the spotlight yeah and like the like it can't happen with a fighter unless the fight the like fighters get reinvented right something has to

come out in a way that has a lot of the traits of a fighting game but then approaches everything else in such a different way that gets people in and has people enjoying themselves perhaps playing as a part of a team i got it right but you have to reinvent so much of it all right um in order to get to that like global stage for people to stick around and actually be like this is fun and i see the competitive part okay and or i'm having enough of it i mean like i can tune in play around or two and like treat it like overwatch you have to trade you have to change so much about what we do with fighting games now so i have i have the solution i just figured it out okay so you you have your fighting game and you play it on a team and it's five versus five fighting game

team right uh and it's all simultaneous and all of your special moves are on cooldowns and then you pull the camera out out out out to be top down and then you replace the stick with a mouse yeah got it there you go got it amazing and the stage is i i i super disagree with you in terms of like the fighting game needs to be reinvented i think the modern current fighting game especially something like ki or even uh dragon ball fighter z can do it it just needs to have the actual structure well then it needs to succeed no no what it what it needs is that like what's what's the most popular fighting game right now right now it's Mortal Kombat X it probably like it's sold the most right you you the first thing you need to do well what well because how are we well what

what level of popularity yeah in terms of sales in terms of sales but when you say what's the most popular fighting game right now right now i think what game is being played the most okay if we jump on to which what are people playing the okay the last couple of years what's what's what's been the most popular versus like money dollars spent well more combat sells the most period sold the most yeah if you just sales and i talked about this before and i turned into a joke matt knows the secret moves but when people are playing street fighter five like mainstream guys that were like liked fighting games but they're like they're just doing special moves in street fighter five and just nothing's whatever they tap two shoulder buttons and mkx and the most insane shit ever

happens like like button inputs need to change yeah but i for that to reach that mainstream audience we've been talking about it clicks is all you need to do in imoba and we'll pull a shit to happen oh that's not sure you need uh you need clarity sure and we've and we just mean in terms of your fingers you need a you need but here's the thing we've been addressed like like like we've talked about rising thunder a million times yeah you talked about rts you are absolutely using just as much as i've talked about fantasy strike but we played we've yeah all right i like fang and you just have the directions reversed where the right hand is the movement and the left hand's all the buttons and stylish slash easy mode has been in like every other major

last like two years but it's been there since marvel one even way before that people don't even care no no one wants to play on baby shit no one wants to feel like that so they don't and then they don't get that all you have to do is not present it like that that's why it doesn't matter if there are not people are gonna smell it out super moves immortal comment people are gonna smell it out two shoulder buttons together and that's it universally it doesn't they're gonna smell it out and they're gonna knock it like any handicapped advantage will make people feel no no i'm not i know i don't mean like when it says baby mode versus turbo mode in like an old capcom fighter i mean the fact that like mkx or even mk9 whatever it was to do an x-ray move to do your the biggest

thing you could possibly do in even an injustice it's two fucking shoulder buttons people just want to see cool shit on a stream people to disagree it's like dota and league and all those games and counter strike one of their defining characteristics is that they're super hard to play i don't i don't think that that is actually the problem like dota requires you to play like a year before you understand the game like it has nothing to do with the time if the game is free as shit people will put the time but but what i mean is that if you play overwatch and overwatch came out everything is a button press that's just what i mean yeah but the problem right and to address to answer you and address what you talked about before similarly is that what

i'm actually talking about here though is like what you described with easy things easy inputs and stylish things happening for doing very little we've seen multiple versions of that already and it hasn't taken we've seen like there's dragon ball games where you just mash a single button and get all kinds of crazy shit like there's versions of this that still don't take because the nature of a fighting game is something where if you're not having a blast competing against other people online your interest will wane because it's set amount of characters set amount of stages i feel like i've seen it all there's something else that's going to catch my attention because the competitive drive necessarily is not in everybody so that so that why would they care

to put that you have to marry both a complicated thing i completely agree with that because like so like look at moba's like they're they're not flashy like no you're very far away from your character but they're addictive and it's and it's a it's an arrow or like a beam that shoots out like it doesn't but they're very addictive right and so that's why when i'm saying reinvent because you went like i don't think they need to be reinvented i don't mean the gameplay in the way that you're thinking the structure i'm saying the structure that the gameplay is sitting in yeah right because uh fundamentally if that nature of like limited cast limited stage whatever thing is like people just gonna get tired at that people like we all thought if we cut out the middle

man i mean for fuck's sake dota and league have one map we thought we all thought like if you cut out the middle man and so is pubg right yeah and you and you get straight to the core of like what is cool about reading the mind of the opponent we could get to people to the fun and everyone will feel it and it'll be great yeah it's like no because we've already done that damn and we've seen it and it still doesn't work right that's still not enough for people and if it's free does that work sort of we haven't but i haven't actually seen it we need to try and that's why i'm so interested in that dead or alive thing because i'm like i want to see the version of that with everything else we're talking about i agree just see if it works i want to see the widest net and if that doesn't

work if those if the freeness doesn't work that is too niche then it's too niche and that's what i'm saying you have to package the competitive fighting inside of a another game yeah almost because people are just not interested enough in the base thing to be like i want to keep playing this over time i think i think fighting games have a really really really inherent problem and i mentioned it a little bit but it's like in any game it's fun to win and it's not fun to lose in a team game it's fun it's great to win and it sucks shit to lose but in a fighting game like it's ecstatic to win but it can be devastating to loot like yeah loss never hurts more than in a fighting game yeah and i think that actually kind of locks out a huge portion of the audience by

default yeah people who just can't because there's gonna be winners and losers in a one-on-one you probably won't get when i was actually told biscus stream killer angst and i was like whoa that's will actually make people play killer angst thing yeah is that he's like hey when i lose in this i always feel like i got an like we make it a joke i got some good hits i got some good hits and though i got two or three big combos that i was like that makes me feel good that it got in and doesn't make me feel hopeless like if he had played or someone had played like street front of five and they're like someone that didn't play games they're going they get fucking wrecked they get fucking wrecked every time but like killer angst is just and that's just the way the gameplay

works and i also feel like maybe not mortal combat but like you it's really hard because you have to make your fighting game in such a way that there's depth that there's easiness to some things but not like the closest version of what we just described existing is basically smash brothers yeah where you have to do it so different that people are arguing about whether or not you're even a fighting game yeah right you create a complete paradigm shift by making the gameplay super different yeah fundamentally the same at the base level but you still got teams single player adventures massive package for you to buy bros was like free to play and on pc with scalability it would be the most popular littered with nintendo characters and also characters

from everything you love yeah like that's it's got everything going for it minus free to play in pc and that's and that's how hard you have to go in in like in repackaging the concept of like this is a fighting game to somebody to get those numbers well matt was saying reminded me of something a little while ago there was this it's a new genre there's a big twitter thread about developers sharing like tips and tricks and shit like that and one of them was a guy who worked on of gears of war and he had two pieces of advice about player engagement that is somewhat vital to our conversation one is that when you go in a new area and single player the first shot from any enemy will always miss your character guaranteed an mmo's no no in gears of war in gears of war sorry

okay uh yeah sorry the first shot will always miss your character so that it lets the player know you're in a fight now but it doesn't nail them with a cheap shot out of nowhere okay and the second one which is way more interesting is that they had data from like tests and shit it's like okay so in gears of war players who fail to get a kill at all in their first match are likely to never ever play multiplayer ever again so what they did is that for your first couple of matches until you get enough kills your character is weighted differently than other characters weighted it has more health it has more accuracy i didn't know that what it's harder to knock them out of chainsaw animations and stuff like that so that the first you have a power character when you start so the

first time you play gears of war you are nearly guaranteed to get a kill to get at least one kill wow and then within a two three matches that shit just goes away is this a known thing well it is now it wasn't known until about a week ago no and no one would catch that because anyone that plays the game enough and is good at it is way beyond that point yeah that's what a great idea so fighting games need that yes what the fuck honestly fighting it's crazy fighting games don't need that but something similar to something similar could actually help a lot i almost want to stop the podcast and just think about that for a while to decide how i feel because think about it when you when you start a new game of street fighter no super street fighter four the day that super

street fighter four came out and a lot of people saw oh man look at all these characters they bought it they went online and what happened they got fucking direct by anybody who knows how to play street fighter and yeah how many of those people actually were gonna stick around oh my god probably not that many because think about i'm your mate because i'm thinking about the um because this is a this is an implementation of what matt was talking about earlier with like it's not baby mode it's actually just lies to you yeah and it's tricking people into liking it more than they would if they knew what it was that way it felt really good if you're lying you're tricking people into liking it more than they would totally you're it's a commercial it's a movie ad it's a trailer it's

a lie i would argue that anyone within even the the lowest tier of any competitive game would absolutely stop to shit any player with nearly any advantage right so like if once you know about like movement and like not to get how to not get hit and how to maximize your reloading like willy i'm i'm a fairly terrible mobile player right but i play them casually it mean you played against each other on your first match you could be given straight up numerical advantages and i would still win but you'd probably get me a couple times yeah right like there's value in that lie do you remember that remember that level of titanfall 2 where it's just a war and you drop down and then the first thing is like take cover from like the cannons yeah and

then you go and you fight a bunch of junk titans yeah and you get this awesome cinematic like normandy moment yeah then you go into the gates and then some real fights start yeah and then you go beyond the gates and it gets fucking real yeah right like those those that that's kind of like a thing that like i feel like is almost like what you're describing where the first junk titans you take out are super easy to kill but you're still taking damage from all sides there to empower you and you feel good about the momentum that you use to blast through that fence and then get into the real fights yeah but in a fight but like people would notice and they'd freak out instantly and that's the problem in gears no one knew about this until the guy mentioned it because you die

multiple times per game in subtle it's just like everyone doesn't yeah notice the kdr in a fighting game is two zero or one two yeah you know what i mean like the end of it like your kdr is 100 percent or 50 percent or zero that's it unless you're playing smash brothers which again paradigm shift wow that's interesting okay i don't yeah i just just do a killer instinct or a street fighter five and actually give it the entire free to play structure god damn it please i want to see it i know that's a big risk just but still um i mean even things like dive kick you know like had like that life and then it's super dirt cheap and it's just like i mean it's a simple fighting game so of course it's not gonna last like years all that he learned all his balancing from dive kick but

but but but like even dive kick as an example is is something that like you know is not immune from this overall like um i'll call it fgc and entropy boat missing you know what i mean yeah yeah the the the the energy and the scene and the hype just like leaves because people just don't care so over the course of let's say 30 luckily luckily uh there's three to four friends of mine that also picked up k i at the exact same time and we're all playing in our little and that's the best that's fun uh and also luckily because of my position as somebody who has a lot of followers on twitter we all have the superpower where i go if i were to go hey does anybody want to play killer instinct like i probably get some matches right but that the average person doesn't have that they don't no no they don't

they don't why are you what is the quizzical tone at the end of this i think matt i think matt's okay um we'll move on we'll move on to a game that i know matt matt matt's your name that's my name you know there's gonna be a reason in the second one if you're feeling nasty i uh yeah i feel nasty uh i know you played this a while ago but i don't know how much you played it i think i might be coming up on that is i mad max was 11 dollars yes i've seen you agonizing on twitter that was like a 30 minute that was like a 30 minute thing where i'm like it's like any game is almost worth 11 dollars what what number would you give that game uh a dollar sign or no like a review out of 10 give it like a 7.5 i'd give it like a seven and a half yeah

like it's good it's it's it's good but completely unremarkable in any way whatsoever the only thing that's really cool about it is the driving past the boundaries thing 3.5 stars and uh and driving in that game feels really fantastic thank god it also looks amazing a problem with it is that i actually think it's very like immersion breaking is the fact that they couldn't get like the likeness of either tom hardy or mel Gibson yeah and just this generic man boy but it's just really rough not surprising though because like i act like this is you know yeah they're likely the fucking license for the show for the movie get the fucking license again they're not they're not marvels you know they're not they aren't there it's like it's the weirdest thing it's like it's

Warner Brothers for god damn sake the most it's a fucking movie company the the moot the the weirdest thing is that like the the story is all like it's all just a prequel to fury road and it's and it's got all the characters and and tribes and you get to find out more about those weird spiky dudes and shit like that so that's really interesting but like can you enjoy old mad max cars yes because yeah and like but it is very much like go to the point climb the point man there's a lot of these little things to fill out on the map there is and sometimes i just need that really yeah what's fun is like the witcher drive out essence assassin's creed when you drive out a map an underground bunker and you find like a photograph of the old world and he says something

smart and he says something smart about it that's like the actual because me well he did a video for the game and we're like it's actually yeah it's a good game it's just yeah it's kind of unremarkable one real big problem that i have in it it's got the batman combat and i actually like it quite a bit it feels good it looks you have suplexes in this it looks cooler that it is you german suplex dudes that's cool my main problem is that like every fight that i've gotten into it's against two to five guys and it's over in like under a minute and that gets me into a weird thing that game and what i've seen of the batman stuff and some of the other games like assassin's creed you haven't played batman arkham asylum you yeah and when i do wait have you played any of

the games that have that combat engine uh like by yourself by yourself by yourself no but like the the batman like hit wide again yeah that's what i'm about to talk about okay if i can you didn't play the original one that they all stole from no it's a little but if i can if i can get to you killer instinct had six characters it did you did it 100% did damn it he's accepting he's accepting these things it's not fun now um and when i play batman i'm gonna play it for myself uh so the thing with the combat that's interesting is that it looks really cool does but there's a fine line between too many punch lasers because then the whole combat thing is automated and you're like this doesn't feel like a fight yeah right so you're like what is that how do we dance between cool

cinematic moments as i take on a group versus i barely did anything and everyone's dead i think arkham city probably did it the best of no i think shadow of mordor did it the best shadow of mordor does it really well because the basic combat structure is attack and counter right and then there's a there's a third move which is dodge or flip or some bullshit that is like for unblockables right and the important thing is that you they have button like multi button presses that do weird shit like instantly kill someone or knock them out or throw them into somebody but shadow of mordor also had from a grab state do like eight different things yeah turn them against the other characters keep them alive but maim them explode them yeah

that means though like man max combat is like yeah it was kind of unnecessary evil or i'm like i'll do it but i actually want to drive around in my car and kill people without harpoon them with my car and drag them around like the the on foot combat was just kind of a thing i had to do in certain sequences like when you're going into a big compound you got to do it because you got it kill those cars but like the if it didn't have the car like if it just had driving from point A to point B but you're actually shooting things with your car harpooning them because you can upgrade your car just as much as you can your freaking character you can upgrade your car more than max that's where that game actually shines and the combat thing is kind of just like yeah

it's fine it's functional it's fun but it's not really playing it makes me incredibly excited for shadow four that comes out like two weeks the baton you're spending your loot boxes bitch the balance of like what i about above that combat stuff automated and versus you know automated cinematic versus you're actually playing and whatnot yeah i think one of the best versions of it i can think of right now is sleeping dogs yes i think sleeping dogs it's a very good balance of getting to that point of the map where you throw a guy's head there's tons of interactables versus doing actual straight up combos you're really fighting for real but then there's eight or nine points around the map where if that's an insta kill if only square nx hadn't completely

squandered the franchise and one of the biggest bungles i can think of what you didn't like you didn't like triad war yeah no one even come out it did it did what is it it's bad no but what actually is online good job and then smash and grab which then bankrupted the company sleeping dogs is a great fucking game it is combat combat was the best balance yeah woolly did you play shadow mordor no if you really liked um uh sleeping dogs all the all of the above then you should absolutely check out can you die in that game mordor yeah yeah okay you should play the ps3 version yeah i mean did you take a look at the video me and lian made of the ps3 version i was there oh yeah oh you were i fucking forgot yeah because all i remember actually i came in and you guys

played it and showed me i remember i remember just liam for months and months and months and months and i'm trying to track down the ps3 for shadow mordor uh yeah i would highly recommend that because it's fun cool well um fortunately there's not a ton of news this week so fortunately we waste all that time talking about dumb fighting game i know we wasted talking about vampires versus ghosts i which no that wasn't a waste that wasn't a waste gentlemen i would not change a thing i wouldn't i have thoroughly enjoyed this podcast so we talked about golf story bam that's one off the list bam we talked about that are alive bam that's one off the list shit we talked about cuphead that's one off the list no there's a bit of cuphead news i sure funko pop isn't fucking up this time

by making those cuphead figures do that heroes do that little fucking cool uh funko pop figures yeah are of of cuphead that don't have dead there because they're actually just accurate cuphead figure what is the distinction why do they choose to do some cup no no no because the company no this is literally only yet this is the only ones i've seen them where they break the mold that let me so here's here let me let me like there's a factoid that i didn't know i like much that changes more than cop everything what is the change funko is the company pop is the vinyl figure toy line uh what's the difference funko is got the black eyes exactly but funko is funko the toy company doesn't always make pop figures okay pop vinyl figures are the shit ones that we

know about okay but funko is just making normal toys here oh wow that's especially fey valentine so this is a normal cuphead figure okay and he's black and white i'm like look how cute mugman looks so good job guys you showed you could do it they did it even though those eyes if you take away the pupils are basically the same thing they're there they're buried but they're there um yeah yeah no so that that's you know that's already there uh have you guys seen the new character in um uh rivals of aether i i started watching the trailer and i couldn't discern what the character looked like so uh well the art the art is a little bit like unclear on the thumbnail but when you watch the trailer it becomes very clear because it's a fire based character it is well i

mean there's a lot of fire based characters even though it's at or burn is literally a fire based character as is force burn because the plot is about fire right the story is about the flame basically so people that manipulate and wield the fire are like the dark soul yes exactly exactly so this is the first sword character because it looks like hyper light drifter it looks like the hyper light drifter um make yeah mixed with the furry world of rivals of aether but what's cool hey man or is in it the furry light drifter or he is in it what's super cool uh about this character though uh clarion is that they're a sword character in the smash brothers type right so they have a lot you you'll see like uh lots of those moves and whatnot but the tip as with marth and the other

sword characters is where all the damage lies right here that's a fire sword but the tip is ice so when you land that hits with just the blue part of the sword so it's a black panther with like a techno goggles and an ice sword is what you're seeing the cape when you hit with the tip the characters freeze and it's a better hit because you can do more off of because there's hits done exactly extended hits done off the tip so it's not just extended damage it's literally it changes the type of strike which means if you're precise you're a fucking beast with this character rivals of aether is like so legit yeah it is i'm really happy that it's getting like releases on multiple consoles now it's getting like guest characters it's really in a full story mode like i didn't

expect this i didn't expect this to get the treatment that like not smash clone that smash clones usually get rather smash clones usually live and then die yeah because it's not smash you know and because like the smash community will be like yeah it's just not close enough but these guys are doing their own thing with uh they're with a flavor of like you know we want a sword character we want this type we want that type the basis of rano i don't even know this is a frog martial artist i didn't know about that guy oh you i think you missed that podcast i must have missed it yeah he's a martial arts frog rano is the other character that that just got revealed um that's much like how fight and rage does their enemies because they're all like you know uh

a fucking monkey that has like jackie chan style or jet lee style or bruce lee style and it's all like you know like brutal paws of fury right so finally come back rano's all about like kicks and like stomping on your head and poison yeah so it's a frog frogs are poisonous yeah so i like really cool archetypes you know like i love i love what they're doing with uh like it's like you you've seen that type of character before that's like a chic you know what i mean like yeah quick hits very fast multiple ninja type moves um but they're very wang tang and like awesome designs doing their own thing which is not the same cannot be said for all smash clones not i forget about the one that like we talked about last project m1 yeah i don't remember the real function versus function

what i don't even remember the name yeah because it's functions i watch so much fucking but you said but max said zennar burn and i said fours burn because we remember the characters in this hey brawl holla brawl holla is the default dan of fighting games oh man so that's rano that's rano cool um yeah and that was a short about a bunch of news we talked about toilet paper already yeah there's a front you savages yeah there's no debate here i'm glad we're all on the same page for once um so we can just get to the last couple things one um good life campaign is going and

there's a dog mode coming to that so if you're interested in didn't help in and backing the game it's not going to make it it's asking for a lot of money it's asking for the appropriate amount of money for a game of this type in caliber which happens to be a lot of money which happens to be a lot of money but it's not going to make it it's not doing great but there's a dog very set there's a dog also to see if people are willing could you do me a favor could you hit that little bar graph thing next to the the bar underneath 19 percent the the the little where it shows you stats yeah yep so yeah that's what i thought what are you looking for i'm looking for fig fun so it's about 50 50 just like nearly all fig stuff part of the problem isn't just like for whatever reason

consumer reaction to this fig campaign is low also it's like swearing did did the reminiscent make any fucking money it made tons of money did it yes because when it came out initially that's what they sell for 30 bucks it was no 19 20 bucks it was 20 bucks and they made so much and they advertised that it was 19 bucks damn it was on the fucking print ads that i don't know what's going on here no the problem i think is that a it's on fig people don't want to sign up to a new thing where why is it not like the only thing that i can think of that has succeeded on figs so far where it was games that were already established on kickstarter pillars too no problem you know why because pillars one came out and it's everything that already has good will you know but the other

thing is that the actual game pitch has not been great it took well i don't think people expected five minutes and it took five minutes into a six minute video to tell you even what the game like what you did yeah or what it looked like no they didn't do a good presentation but the same time i 2000 backers is like too low also also right like one besides the the the expectation being like whoa like that's not at all what they people thought was gonna happen yeah if this game did not have the name of the person who was making it behind it and you saw this as a trailer on kickstarter what would you think i you care even less which is shocking because people don't care with his name attached yeah so even you would you look at this as a project that you'd be like

yeah i'm gonna jump in on that no yeah so that's kind of why it's a weird situation where you like that's why it's getting the reception it's getting because it's just uh unfortunately not it's not what people who are fans of him are looking for i like it i can see many people not like you know it's weird because kickstarter and fig let you see bombs in the future yeah and nothing and nothing like because if this is what you're looking at for a campaign to fund it imagine how fucking bad it would it bomb when it came out as like a publisher backed retail product and nothing about swary is like it makes you a fan of like this necessarily the weirdness yes but you don't like the other people that are that are following him to see what he's gonna do aren't necessarily

looking for a new thing because people actually just want like there was talk of like deli premonition 2 and like continuing d4 and both those things well deli premonition wrapped up people still wanted a sequel and deli and d4 obviously super needs a sequel because it was the most cliffhanger shit ever is that this like wallah like this concept and and it's a brand new thing if you wanted for it to succeed it should have been called lethal memories it should have been called d5 there's something then you would have had people talking like like i said when it for when we first first saw this this is super weird it didn't see it coming but i think it's cute and i think it would be fun if it existed but it's not going to this reminds me a lot of

david lynch for a lot of reasons not just because of twin peaks but because like and deli premonition but because of the way it's like they make weird shit right and swear he makes just weird shit that hasn't done anything just like david lynch's films afterwards right and i got i i i don't know if this is a quote i don't know where i heard it and i don't even know if it's real but i can imagine it where it's like hey david don't you want to make movies that people want to watch no just imagine the response being no i want to make the movies that i want to make right because that's the feeling you get watching a david lynch movie right this is not for you this is for david right right you're a passenger and i kind of get that with sweary as well but games are not movies

especially not when they're crown funded yeah yeah barely ever like you make a game that you would want to play is the oldest thing in the book right but also it's under the assumption that other people would want to play it as well you look out at the sea of things that you don't like and you make the thing that doesn't exist yet it's just like a big poop there's a lot of things going against this yeah unfortunately yep and it's and it's like it will literally not make it there's no way it will unless someone's super rich and crazy donates what 1.21 million dollars that's a lot that's a lot here's hoping this is one of those crowdfunded games that fails and then immediately announces that they had a publisher all along you know or just one came came board

whatever you know bummer there's no like oil tycoons out there that are bored can we get Saudi princes yeah i want to see these girls turn into cats right can we get a Saudi prince to send this it's very one of those really expensive like suits and oh well okay maybe not the publisher i talked to who's involved with the takeover they're really good friends of swaring i'm like do you have like 1.2 million dollars just hanging around they're like no we don't maybe the problem is that the primitive choppy 3d gets in the way and overall people's are people's impression of it is that it's a mediocre yeah what is this star fox 2 i dn i dn's review of star you know what's shocking is i played star fox 2 and the we

you got a snus mini on this stupid internal classic mini yeah i did i i got it star fox 2 actually is much smoother and has a better frame rate than star fox one i was actually shocked oh whoa you know what i bet happened the reviewer remembered star fox one from their childhood and remembered it being smooth which is super wrong it's not but it's still fun and then played star fox 2 and went this is so choppy and shitty compared to star i wouldn't even be surprised because they were comparing what they thought of star fox 64 which is very smooth to star fox one because star fox one is choppy because they're fun i remember star fox one being choppy to the point of unplayability back in mic 95 not unplayability i hated it hey uh you would i would

you know billy got his by doing the old road trip oh just like we used to do oh yeah and it worked it totally worked can i have one i tried no well you could just i mean he's small you just overpower him so yeah thanks at the end um what is cool uh you told me about this actually was as credo as credo has a new update that's coming after its initial how excited are we for this thing this is the weirdest coolest thing that's ever i think it's fucking great because i'm a fan of traveling mode in res because i love people i love showing that to people and i love people who like they don't know how to play that having a hard time but that's a cool thing where they want to see the music and have fun this is a nice thing as well where you want to have more of those

little factoids that the earlier as creed games gave you but in small doses so you can walk around through assassin's creed origins playing as a higher map playing as a like just random guy or girl and you make your character and you focus on learning the elements of historical realism that they've put into the game like you'll go into like a temple that bayak like goes into and fights a bunch of dudes but you actually go to someone that's just fucking pulling someone's brains out their nose and say what's so what's uh what's about this uh what's uh the mummification they're gonna use the heated needle and you mash up the brain and you tilt their head their brain falls out how does it work in assassin's creed games you look at you run by something and a glossary

like point will appear on your HUD saying look go into your memories and bullshit or whatever no one cares anymore yeah but the mode is all dedicated to it also what you've put in as much work as they have into like getting it accurate yeah you know because again this is like hey we're not annualizing anymore we're gonna take our time make a thing right you know they put in a lot of work into it in the same way that uh it's a shame that like uh um what was it uh three right yeah you ask creed three that is a shame and ended up being like as bad as it did with having all those problems and stuff because they put a fuck ton of work into like native culture and whatnot that in the end the early american stuff like that yeah and the gameplay is gonna keep that information away from

people even though they did all that research right so a mode like this is kind of cool because it's like hey you can um learn about all the work they put in to this culture and you can be like oh i appreciate this yeah i'm gonna buy the season pass i can learn about evisceration so i finally you know what is there like a gameplay demo out there like one of those 20 minute walkthroughs because like i saw a screenshot the other day of this game and couldn't understand a single fucking thing that was happening in it because i haven't paid attention because like oh it's another assassin's screen game i'll check that out when it comes as close to release right but this one's completely different in every single fucking way yes so you level your character

that's weird bayek level five level 26 i have a level five back will he be able to beat whore ang bang how wrong how wrong it's ba something it's ba it's bang it's ba it's ba ba ba i uh really hope that you know what am i fucking talking about next year another game's coming out i doubt it like if they if a game does not come out next year they will have maybe learned a lesson i am hopeful that it would be something less stupid and releasing another one it's an assassin's screen game come out last year no no it was just one movie that's why i said they decided to stop annualizing so but they might just like i feel like you can fight back the tides of investors for so long you can and with vivendi guys vivendi dogs and are encroaching

at the door the wolves are at all doobies door he's doing his best buying up the shares he can and and hell even employees getting a cut you know like doing whatever they can to fight them off but i feel like no if people bark loud enough we're gonna go back to annualized i think the sales of this version if it's over syndicate which was the last one then they'll be like hey actually you know like that thin grand theft auto does where every six years one comes out and it's the biggest multi-selling thing ever yes yes but box 360 yes i hear you but this game is called assassin's creed and it just made money what if we do it again next year that's amazing that's good it'll make the same money you make the same every year we'll be rich bulletproof i think

bobby kota came from the fucking like is he dead now spawns of hell no like he came out of an industry i think it was the egg that he hatched out of yeah what about like i think before he worked in games i think he worked in like fucking packaged goods and cereal and shit yeah which like this mentality obviously makes perfect sense for those products and honestly activision made on a shit ton of money why am i talking about activision i got confused bobby kotec is activision oh my god i just got so confused i bet you did you thought i thought activision was what we saw for a minute there crazy you stupid same thing you need to stop yeah so annualized uh like games coming out needs to stop is what needs to stop yeah and take your sweet ass time i want a new

dark souls game i want a new doom yeah well hey guess what you know what people want a new red dead game how long did they have to wait to get it like how when did red dead come out like 2010 yeah fuck the seven years you know what everyone's freaking out like there's ign videos of people crying and masturbating into each other into each other red dead is fine it is a good open world action game that's all it ever was you wait which one red dead redemption i think that game's fantastic the trailer it's very good the new trailer oh you're you're one of those people that that's all the wise that game is stellar the trailer it's it's good the new trailer i disagree it goes on 50 hours too long but you have no patience for long games no i don't so you're

a busy man the trailer the new trailer that just dropped is pretty good it's really short they're gonna be really short yeah i know but i want i want the like red dead redemption was the first game to start that fucking type of trailer or it's like here's how you ride the end all that shit i know and i fucking bought the shit out of it okay but you know what this trailer i want i want that it made me go off fuck i want westworld again yeah i miss westworld well what if at the end somebody gets shot in the face but it was a roll i doubt it god that intro was so good i i am i am extremely excited yeah man that looks fantastic i'm sad that it's called red dead redemption too and not just red dead that is the most annoying part about this

you don't need to do that but guess what we reinvented the franchise now everyone loves this i know but we don't have the confidence matt we're too afraid we thought it was okay the first time because no one cared about red dead revolver but now we want you to especially forget about it no one cared about it why'd we spend the money to buy the name because we had an idea and we had confidence the first time you could say now that it's a success and we know that it's guaranteed to be big i'm sure we don't have the confidence that's needed i'm sure i'm new thing with a different name fully i'm sure pat knows this but i'm not sure if you know it like you could say marvel you could say other things capcom's biggest fucking blunder is selling this ip to rock star

because they're fucking morons uh i they released red dead revolver as the publisher not the developer i hear you just like yeah let's just sell this no but here's why here's the reason why i disagree doesn't matter it doesn't until until capcom could not have made red dead redemption i i think capcom could have published red and capcom had no interest rock star doesn't make games they don't publish capcom had doesn't has no interest in making a giant awesome cowboy adventure they have no interest in making anything could they make a dragon's dogma but with cowboys so i don't see that in i know what you mean understand like a business point like yeah yeah yeah i know but but but but like that's actually really just hindsight you know in hindsight you

took a thing that we were doing nothing with and made it awesome and now i want it that's like but it wasn't that you know we're gonna fire this stone cold man exactly no totally and it's like the you what you have to say there is no no if they could have sold it or not sold it it doesn't matter the genius is from the people who did the new thing with it i'm just saying i am very much looking forward to this game as the sequel to the best game rock star ever put out really the best one they ever put out what's better than red dead that they made bully bully sucks i know don't it doesn't suck no what is up with people in love with bully i think bully's fine please that's it it has a ton of story in there's a cult following behind that game that i don't understand at all

probably just because it's a it's a one of a one of a kind it's very one of a kind that's all warriors is good too that's all warriors is great warriors is better than all the gta can't if konami made zoe one and then sold the zoe name yeah yeah to to kajima productions like you know what i mean like you can't yeah it's like it's not the name they just needed any cowboy thing and felt like that i guess that but like 25 hours into red dead and i'm like oh i haven't reached mexico yet huh revolving or redemption redemption okay 25 hours i haven't reached 50 percent of the game that's kind of where i check out um a lot of people like i enjoy that because i like getting like if i like a game i like it to go on for a while 25 hours is a while i mean it's the same

reason why anyone it's very long that a very long game is 180 200 hours to to further the point the only reason why you you me or anyone that we know gives a shit about the warriors is because rock star took it and that's not sure the warriors is awesome you sure but people give a shit about that and but why know what where why all that noise about warriors now why not the last dragon or the cross and the switchblade you know what i mean streets of or any other super old gang style movie why because those don't have cyrus in it going can you dig it and it also doesn't have sully at the end but it has but it has the power of the glow see that's a thing and the showgun you're right that shout fucking you're not you're convincing me strongly that there should be a last dragon

game yeah don't get me wrong okay but the war like the warriors has value beyond the rock star game sure but i'm saying that like baseball furies are so fucking stupid and cool but like but like rock star has the power rock star is the star maker yeah you know rock star is the dre right that's able to just pull anybody up from the little leagues and then like once you get his endorsement grab some it that's all you need so you can be the m and then once you're the m you could pull in the fitty and once you're the fitty you could pull in the game yeah and then regret it that's what's max pain three was not great hell yeah it wasn't max pain three was great up until like when you played like five hours of it and then

that's when it should be like this shooting doesn't feel as good as max pain one or two so much of this the the shooting is just like there is a point where the game should have ended and then it's like no five more levels all right in this situation i 100 agree with matt not unlike this podcast five more levels of this podcast no but you know what else is garbage cowards who don't have the confidence to name their thing according to the naming convention they've started in the franchise which is the red dead blank yes of course right and it did revolve and you know what would you call it what would you call a third one red dead revengeance red red dead revenge red dead resurrection red dead reloaded red dead every other tropey name

but the point is just i hate it when you combo break your franchise because success makes you afraid i hope you don't like hope you don't like star wars you hate everything right uh uh dark forces as we always we're not gonna do it again we're not doing it again but dark forces is what happens when little bits of success increase so much every time that you you get cowarded out constantly hey guess what the fucking thing says star wars on it it'll do fine like if red dead revolver two becomes the biggest thing ever ever ever beyond video games yeah then it becomes all about saying red dead revolver two new subtitle by city yeah yeah i fucking hate it man yeah have some confidence in your shit people will like it and talk about it and yes brand recognition

matters so don't combo break your shit let me let me introduce you to marketing man who will explain a little integrity numerically to you that you're just super wrong and that it doesn't matter well here mr madden and as i can show you all that actually matters is you keep the recognizing that thing around for monies says right here that you will make four thousand percent more profit if you make it the same name the annoyance that you feel towards this shit is the same annoyance that i feel to matt not checking registering his email just keep it nice and clean also mr madden we have data here that says that if you use a similar name but not the exact same that will confuse people and in fact scare them into buying the product it may it will

sell less like fuck man i always find a goofy like of the naming thing like matt brought it up earlier well like certain horror franchises it goes they get embarrassed it goes for so long that like it becomes a liability has anyone ever had like similar naming structure with a slight change in it where there was no numbers involved and they kept it the whole way through including massive successes movies albums rambo those are no rambo that's not actually no they're not no first blood first blood rambo first blood part two yeah rambo three and john rambo yeah rambo three yeah it's one that hasn't run one has enough yeah yeah it's true yeah um they don't even all have the word rambo with alien aliens alien three no alien resurrection alien covenant yeah which

everyone wants to watch but i i i would like that i would like that i'm too cowardly to watch aliens i guess zelda but they have the title legend of zelda before it yeah so yeah zelda establishes if you say if you say brand name and then subtitle of thing then yeah you can jojo it you can zelda you protect yourself forever forever as long as it says brand yeah that's why i thought red so why not go red dead colon whatever you want red dead colon yeah red dead colon red dead revolver red dead redemption red dead revisions red dead revolver too because we're cowards all right it's fine who cares um regs red dead revelator uh lastly there's a rumor it's not even bad red dead dark moon

revelations revelations i red red dead revelations would have been fine oh that's terrible it is that's bad red dead super is chrono fiction red dead chrono cross no he's going blaze blue red dead central fantasma red dead under night in birth extra late excuse me that's ex latest to you get your uni is to properly shut out best tutorials in all the fighting games worst acronym slash common name in all the fighting games fight me you're right oh god okay and last week in the fighting games we have a rumor and take it with a green assault but yes definitely word on the street is that neo geobattle coliseum two is possibly in the works yeah and it's gonna be cel shaded and it's like guilty gear and of all the games because we want capcom versus capcom

but because capcom doesn't want that no they hate they hate cap let's instead turn towards the possibility of an snk versus snk game which you know we liked battle coliseum i would mind seeing more of that uh yeah rumor saying that i don't believe this right now is because there's even a fucking like character list and someone was keen to point out the entire character list yeah that's always that's always kof 14 was leaked well before the game came out now but this has assholes like john crawley sure from art of fight like what type of sane publisher would push character well luckily we're talking about snk snk in maximum impact part two because i'm thinking art of fighting referenced characters because sorry it was not out of fighting john crawley

no no what character was in maximum impact to regulation a that wasn't even art of fighting a lot there's a vangelion characters in there there's one guy specifically there's there's last blade characters and you have mizoguchi meet tag yeah mizoguchi from regulation that wasn't even snk it was data east but they acquired it whatever um so the reason why i can believe this though is because chinese company that buys snk needs to make more money and kof 14 is out and doing well yeah so time to do it again but differently um so they can reuse some of their resources if that groe team is correct that sucks and if they're doing it the same rock any my geese crowds are like fuck but that's it how's that even groe yeah i mean they're all from

groe crowds are not fucking from groe yeah he is from fatal fury what what are you guys talking about are you are you groe is groe mark of the world are you no i no in japan fatal fear was always called okay okay step one hold on one everyone from that team i think it's that's a pretty decent representation because those are the most popular characters right it's it's one character should be a weirdo two fatal fury in japan is called gary o densets legend of the wolf why the hell is it groe over here called groe they weigh not a fatal fury why was street fighter three called three it was yes i don't know that yeah a new generation it was just called three yes and then then later it became a fighter three second impact and third strike imagine that it was

just called three yes yeah thre three that was the name of the game you walked up to the game and it didn't even say street fighter on it said three on the rk cap and i seen it but pat think about this how confusing is it to find your game groe the french name for a wolf for a japanese game in america so there's just like fuck it call it fatal fear oh even the french name for wolf isn't lou the french word name for wolf wall the gary gary is also who is a fucking werewolf there you go so it's named where yeah see look pat look up that was the arcade marquee that's terrible that was the name of the game that's goddamn awful okay but that's what it was so new generation deserved to fail okay but what you don't know is that gary was the name of the whole franchise

that's stupid no you're stupid yeah in japan is called gary it's all called gary o gary marker the wolves is the name of the fourth game but they're all called gary o densets it's a french canadian singer yeah and a really sick toksatsu yeah and the villain from one punch man that i don't know about sure anyway so i believe it because s in k still needs money chinese s and k needs money too and uh you know just like with marvel there's entirely a possibility that because marvel didn't have the same models as three but it has the same animation data so gene gene gene is in god hand oh and and i don't think you know yeah battle coliseum too why not um no yeah but what i liked about battle coliseum was the unsafe choices and it looks like there's some random shit here

mars people marco foe fios they were all their food was there too neat neodyo kim su ill and shohayate that's good shit from kizuna encounter so we got some fun choices um world hero is only having the ryu and ken socks so i'm no mud man but but anyway this is again grand assault might not be real but if it is then fuck yeah because you can usually trust i'll play that hey this is sourced from the madman's cafe then then it that's then it's real iron clad you know the deal you know the deal and some new characters including a serious otaku and an alluring woman i hope that's their final name sounds like s and k play more to me it does uh uh let's take some emails it's very do you want to send an email you send it to

superpass friendcast at gmail.com that's gero densetsu that's super mark at at mark of the wolves at hungry wolf goes mark of the wharves at hungry wolf.com getting wolves up yeah it's super best friendcast at gmail.com i can't believe pat hates fatal fury i don't hate fatal fury i can't believe i hate gero's stupid japanese name i can't believe it stupid fatal fury did you ever play new generation yes once at an arcade it sucked there's some cool stuff in it that we never got anywhere else i'm sure but my experience with it was that it sucked if you want to see yun and yang with the same moveset on the same character box but pressing punch or kick chose which twin you got you play three if you want to see backgrounds where uh amazing they vanish

into like distorted third person perspective or remember the dream remember the dream dimension you go in when you do a super yeah yeah seizure flashes and when you super jump it looks as if the camera is tilting upwards on the stage because they all vanish uh in the sky as opposed to like on the on the camera tracking them um the duration i don't like it okay first question comes to us from brian he says hey best friends this is brian i saw a car the other day that had a license plate that said four hokage and it made me think what kind of what kind of i can't drive you crazy was it woolly's car what kind of what kind of was it the car that you keep to show everyone your

hokage love i mean for the fourth yeah oh that's what the four is right okay you're an idiot yeah well um and it made me think what kind of customs license plate you'd want to get on your car the car that none of them did you own a car now max big porns yeah that's too much with a z all depends on where you live but okay well yeah because here it's got to be six right yeah here no you can get seven we don't have vanities here no you can get vanities but it has to be six very uncommon k l l b s s butt ass what is k kill boss kill boss kill boss or or yeah you can't really do yeah you can't do boss you can't really beat that no i don't ever put that how about mitzi no let's take it about hentai you can have mitzi hentai is pretty

strong i have no love for vanity license plates i think they're not every every year at magfest there's a hentai car yeah and it's the highest the license plates the parties dude the parties out of control but yeah i think that that is about cars stupid fck bvn it's okay mine would be drive sucks um not the movie just driving okay we got one coming in from matt and matt what he says that's weird let's see what i sent you dear soup what's an anime film that i'm just gonna what's an anime film and i was a million dollars i was just gonna say red line and let's see if the the answer matches the question uh i'm gonna say ninja scroll uh

graver the fireflies all right let's see what the question is what's the question barefoot again that's my answer what is the question i read it no you didn't let's try this again we got one coming in from matt yes dear soup yeah what's an anime film that i said the email just stopped there what's an anime film and i'm a vampire it just oh it just stops there um yeah red line red line's a good anime film ninja scroll barefoot again yeah wings of mayonnaise that's not a film it is it is i thought it was a show it's a terrible scrapped princess stelvia of the universe sora no stelvia hell's tokyo gore never fucking hell is terrible dn angel all right i think we answered it wait yeah we did hey you know what you know what show i hate

now by proxy because of one of uninhibited planet survives your name because of one of a professional shitbag jeff thu's fantastic videos yeah eureka seven sure because he says eureka seven oh that's awful and when i saw that's awful and when i hold on the mix is so cool hold on they serve hold on hold on he says eureka seven and when i like i saw people pointing out like why is he saying eureka like that everyone points out that not only in the original and the dub everyone says the that mech's name is the eureka that's which makes that show the worst show in the world that's pretty intolerable i understand um god everyone's dead that's that yeah dead leaves fuck dead leaves man it's not i felt so awesome hey let me ask you a question only maybe you know

this hey ipads wolf if you can hear me answer this question also because you do it all the time why do european people call jojo's bizarre adventure jojo's with a plural s every time for the same reason they call it resi yeah they call they call fucking resin evil resi all the time you know the answer to this question why you're asking it weird okay uh we got one coming in from he says his name is kevin hey kevin he says his name is kevin you never know what the actual name is uh dare super let's fight a procrastinating pizza bomb cast 64 a long time listener first time writer the number 217 is the police code that stands for assault with intent to murder bring back this bit you fucks no it died with liam it was in every episode that he was in and then it stopped oh okay i recall this

he means the esoteric facts i used to have oh yes it wasn't in every single did we start at one every no but once liam asked the question okay so so once liam invented the bit so once so when you say it was in every episode that he was in you're actually a huge liar no it was no no i'm he was in after he started the bit no i'm correcting for people who thought that i stopped doing it while he was here and i just didn't i didn't stop doing it i just made it way and way harder to find it yeah except for that one time you forgot but you won't tell anyone which episode that is because it's much neared a lie that's good no it's in there trust me that's good it's in all of them that's really that's really strong you're gonna drive people out of their minds dude no but that

covers like a hundred episodes that's the worst why would you do that that's music to my eyes uh dylan says dear chums do you think video game protagonists need to have a hobby to be likeable no no noctis has fishing giralt has uh drinking and wine and sources here you enjoy it's pretty much everything no no it helps so here's my thing i i mean i know that obviously gwent kind of like what's brand new by the way it changes this but for the most part i think protagonists having hobbies is a super japanese thing like yeah finding out their blood type it doesn't matter to anyone else you hate spires but japanese things will list like i'm the fucking macadamia commercials stop this they will have keep going the likes stop it and uh and and what not as part

of their profile and blood types as part of their profile as well because those are two things that people care about in japan for some reason i think it just has to do with like what is even a whole fucking story sequence that fucking deals in the blood types like we don't like them that much but people like kratos i never think about it kratos's hobbies murder yeah murdering his family being unredeemable yeah like that's being a day-effic work criminal shit bag yeah like it doesn't really matter that much but it's a nice thing to have because it gives you a point of of a connection to the character but like uh gerald's actually a really bad example because he doesn't have any hobbies other than work and occasionally gambling but the gambling is always just there's people gambling

and i'm bored while i'll do a gambling like in the first game it was dice poker hey man ryu hoshi likes stale bread water without ice and jumping into light fierce so what are you what are you gonna what are you gonna do um ken i want you to do light fierce while i jump and hit me right in my nuts i i yeah it's just like i don't know like what's a random thing that changes from person to person like you're like like your score like your your your horoscope or whatever but like like that we just don't give a shit about you know like it's like i feel like blood type is one of those things where you just why would you ever think about this unless you were in a hospital in the final four final best 14 character creation you select your character's birth date which

determines their fucking astrological symbol and like i'm i'm making the character go who gives a fuck and guess what like three years later no one gives a fuck it doesn't matter okay so the the direction that your chakra spirals is the hair the rotation world that your hair swirls in right because it grows it grows out from a point and you'll let you either go left or right and that's how i supposed to tell now pat black people have afros and curly hair going out in all directions that means your chakra's nuts there is no swirl what's your stupid fucking metric now well what am i supposed to do not all hair swirl is gone works like fucking ah right it's fine i didn't mean you guys are chakralists it means we thought that we never get back to the swirl we'll make our own anime

always do everything you did me here for years and you don't deserve this tolu we'll make our own anime with toblorons and british actors we can't believe jude laws in that do whatever we want yeah whatever we want oh you miss a huge cast of mother fuckers in new york it's an all star cast dumb shit day zero i think judy dench is in there everyone's in it there's tons everyone had a favor i thought she died it's like super not dead dude it's light when i say it's like the boondocks it's exactly like the boondocks except minus the funny and insert the quirk and the and weirdness and bad voice acting oh what's what's jaden's quirk is it tobloron you don't deserve this tobloron that's that's them yep that's it can we get an image macro of all might looking at a hero academia

and saying do this and then looking at neo yokeo and saying don't do that only villains do that that should be a two-second photoshop unfortunately at the end of the day it's like neo yokeo neo whatever literally is doing more for anime than macadamia nut could ever do stop it matt gets on netflix how do you matt yeah netflix is not the pinnacle of anime say the thing it is say the thing let's say what thing say the thing again you don't deserve this tobloron he said the thing matt and woolly are trending into chaotic evil there's a reason why new blu rays of death note the anime have based on the net the manga too based on the hit netflix movie death note i'm not saying it's right i'm just saying there's one receptacle that's bigger than the others sticker often is another

sticker that's like no really there's no other reason to read this than if you've seen the hit netflix the i think it's actually says the inspiration for the five star rated monster head never understood as seen on netflix marketing plan i'll explain it to you very simply because what the like someone put a sticker that said as seen on tv on a product back in like the 50s and it sold gangbusters of the end but why would you compare the thing you have here to the bad thing that you made later because you assume that no one knows that like do you think the fucking manga books of fucking berserk have just let the inspiration for the 2017 berserk anime yes pat you're you're expecting a lot of thought where there is none i walk into the

bookstore and i see the cover of the movie that's out and i go i like that yeah that's end of transaction it's like when you walk into a store at a bookstore around when a star wars movie comes or harry potter and you see the no specifically star wars harry potter because you see the novelization of the film sure because harry potter is the other way around sure yeah yeah and you see the novelization of the episode one with darth mall's big stupid fucking face in the cover and i go who is stupid enough to buy and then there's someone buying it right in front of me darth mall was a cool laser sword demon uh john wants to know in the spirit of halloween and the shit storm if you had to face a horror game in real life jesus pretty much what we answered

before a good horror game yeah what would it be if i had to face one yeah as in your i guess you're dropped into it a machine for pigs because there's nothing scary in that game uh the guy that shoots a bolt at you that always misses in in in ices cursed okay it's a good horror game okay it's portal it's that's not a horror game don't even no don't um let's see you want something that you can physically escape from at the end so that you can survive so nearly every japanese horror game is out because the ghosts literally always win in those they win a lot um the game though yeah uh dino christ i don't know ghost in fatal frame because as long as you have the camera obscure you're okay i don't know fatal frame as a video game is one of the scariest i don't

think it could handle zero how cool how cool is my power suit if i'm isek combo shot how cool is it can i do a lot of stuff you can stop like crazy uh can i jetpack yes you can do i have like cool what guns and weapons and stuff you'd have that even if you didn't have the eye and i can make it out you have a chance as a chance of making it out depends which game you're playing okay because maybe dead space because i got a cool suit out of it that space is a really raw deal well or a metroid fuck it is that yeah stop doing that shut up stop it's almost there you know come on it's close we can argue it's closer than the last one we can argue it's still not anywhere near i can totally fight that one i can't i can fight that battle because you're stupid and you

don't know what you're talking about don't know nothing if you say metro is a horror game i don't know nothing about maybe you're a dumb child maybe the first metroid is scary no it's not as a kid if you played it was scary it's just as a kid the toilet's scary it's kind of it's kind of it was kind of meant to be scary kids are losers sure they're also weak and can be destroyed easily is there any other questions scooby-doo i could scooby-doo scooby-doo wait wait what you're saying the word you're just saying the name of a dog i'd be i'd put it be in that world because it's all fake yeah that's fine no you're right you're right that's good this spooky house is jump scares i would not want to go there oh man you're stuck oh man when that game became real i couldn't

handle it anymore is it better for a franchise to get a 7.5 out of 10 reboot or a 9 out of 10 spiritual successor 9 out of 10 spiritual successor come on spiritual successor i think is actually stronger all right come on being no mistake near automata has nothing to do with near like what in terms of what you're talking about in terms of its characters they could have called this something else no they couldn't have why you i can't tell you but it is vital god damn it everyone can go fuck themselves i'm so fucking mad and i'm so happy that you said that why do you know how many people were like shut up woolly just play it it doesn't matter no that's you i want to know that's nonsense if you go through the first router is oh my god bullshit right thank you okay hold on

thank you so much i have to actually holy shit matt i know that you don't like long games but the way you treat automata about this is absolutely nonsensical it is not routes okay whatever runs whatever it is it's not run i'm so happy why do people why do people then use the term routes all the time because you okay that's why i'm saying woolly look at me you played 999 right yeah there are different endings to that game yeah but there's also a longer period at the end when you get the correct things going on undertale yeah new game plus is actually continuation of the story it is the next new game plus is the also like and then here's the thing that i don't get i because you're not going to play automata i actually i am going to play automata whatever when you said you were

only going to play the first ending and i actually sat you down and explained to you how they all worked and you rolled your eyes because you weren't paying attention no yeah that's true like it it is direct continuation there is not new game pluses are actually there is not you play up to ending a and then you quit because you saw the whole thing there is so much and 999 999 becomes an amazing extra games after that i'm happy with that then i will quit if i'm not happy with that i will play more that is that is like saying that you got to the fucking cathedral district in bloodborne beat amelia and then stopped and saying that you beat bloodborne sure but if i'm happy with that that's fine i can not play more but you don't say that that stopped end of the

game some people stopped that that's what so some people stopped at the neutral run on undertale but they missed out on a lot of good shit sure um i think that if the intent for the complete story screaming at someone saying you didn't do all of it is stupid oh i don't well the only reason people do that is if you say i did do all of it then they go you didn't end up whatever that doesn't matter but but you can't actually say it has nothing because you don't know so sorry sorry i just mean in the terms of like if someone's to look at the the box art of near and then near automata you could possibly say this is just a spiritual successor has nothing to do with it you could say that only if you hadn't actually played the first near game and i'd never said i did and

would that person be super wrong oh what we got a little met sorry what but the point is is that you're like there is reason there is absolutely explicit pay off and that is all i wanted to know because i got that it's and then i had a we talked about this fully i'm that guy and i'm the person who told you no that's nonsense absolutely play or watch yeah something or catch up and i remember and i stuck with that and then i can't every time it came up it kept coming on people kept going nah man it doesn't matter just fucking that is like nonsense you need there are there are moments and sequences take your ball and leave there i'm gonna do it my way and enjoy there there are character moments you there are levels like there are story sequences there are reveals that

would mean nothing to you i love it gotten familiar with the original nah dude just rush it and enjoy it last yeah russia enjoy it um that was in from six wheelchairs maybe in 2025 you'll play the first arkham game maybe but i also don't i didn't play because i don't care like you hate batman i what is this i don't know i don't know i'm going on the like i'm all right i haven't played arkham asylum you oh i'd still think it's baffling but if he doesn't care he doesn't care he doesn't i would have gotten around to it if i gave more of a shit you know the the one that drives me absolutely nuts is i gave i like to flash just didn't get around to it that's the crazy one that's the one i really care but i just didn't it's like then you didn't i'll get to it tomorrow

but like here but like here's one like like dag and rampa three yeah like i'm not gonna get to that for a hot minute yeah right and um um zero time dilemma same thing yeah i'm in this weird negative space and you and you and i both like zero zero escape but i'm in this very weird negative space with dang and rampa where i haven't touched it at all so spoilers are just hitting me and just passing through my body because but here's the here's the problem with dang and rampa from moment was zero everything is spoilers yeah like no matter where you have a discussion about that game everything is spoilers luckily i've had no discussions about that game it's a fucking death game hey is that hey this character spoiler like you can't avoid it uh yeah i think we're good

all right no that's fine we'll close it there actually one last one um they're moderately average workers cast uh don't work is it weird that i keep my syrup in the fridge to keep it cold what which syrup maple maple syrup that's kind of weird uh no you're supposed to but i don't like to do that because you put cold syrup on everything then it gets cold but if you're waffle is hot enough it works out here's what i say waffle should be that hot if it's fresh off the waffle maker maybe takes a sec here's what i say i say if it's in the bottle like a sealed plastic top no just uh shelf that shit yeah if it's in a can that you had to open oh then you probably want to fridge it that's what i say i i always eat uh yeah but bottled because there's

can't syrup too i i agree that if it's cold in the fridge and it'll fucking make your thing all soggy and cold and that's how fun for no one all right let's talk about what's coming up and get the fuck out of here all right what's coming up shit storm shit storm every day every day until we die sometimes the games will be good and we'll play more than like one episode's worth of content we played a really good one a few days ago that's gonna be three episodes that's gonna be three episodes i'll probably be one more maybe that's and then sometimes we play ones that don't deserve that like night trap fuck you night traps a piece of shit hey guess what we recorded that and oh jeez what i just what you were anticipating that be a blockbuster spoilers one day in the next

couple weeks night traps gonna show up and guess what we're gonna show you what a piece of no it's just that it's just the experience what it is because i've never played it but the reaction i wanted dude night trap is amazing we're going to get that you were never going to get that in any universe the potential for that feeling lasted about five seconds like the fucking math games no no no nothing you're even approaching that what uh can we can we expect to enjoy the the beautiful work of voltabase yes yes you can in the in the intro and i assume outro as well that's beautiful very maddenly insane intro he's very good madden everything as in you're mad i don't want to be over because it's very um lovecraft dns it's extremely love on on the flop house generally

you can also expect to see a bunch of horror like things related it's like stuff that we've covered before and some new stuff here in there so look forward to that uh coming up on the spook anniversary um tony hawk no that's incorrect mark echo close enough mark echo and and and police not so we're continuing urban lp with rap music yes police knots is going places yeah oh man that game's great it's so frustratingly good oh man also this weekend you're gonna expect to see me and woolly at new york comma con you do your shit for that new york comma con this weekend okay well i reminded you several times to book your shit for new york comma con october fifth to the eighth little awkward right here possibly that was a while ago yeah and you should have done it a

while ago like you know how these things go no i don't because i booked my shit like two months in advance all right you may you'll probably hopefully you can see me and woolly in new york comma con you'll probably see that i'm gonna tell you like you you know like usually a week or two there's an email then we go oh yeah okay then we do a thing yeah so we'll see all right at the very least who knows at the very least you'll see one of us at the uh brooklyn bar k did you know that in new york they just got the name bar k they trademarked it that's fucking so your man bar k your brooklyn bar k that's weird so you'll you'll see at least one of us there don't care for that this saturday at a time undisclosed all right um you'll see i mean is it too late i it's up to

you if it's no but tickets cost know what i mean is like no he has a ticket for the show if i show up at the door can i get in yes you can all right i'm talking about you just you just need plane ticket and and and hotel all right bus it whatever there you go whatever you like okay just strap yourself to the side of the plane with hooks and figure it out so you'll you'll see it's not the hardest place to get to i want to i want to new york yeah you can take the train man you can do anything you're a comic con biggest biggest event on the east coast suck it west coast you can't walk it i can't walk it you cannot walk like but i physically can't all right listen well like you could probably walk it and would do you some good right but you wouldn't get there no like no but i mean on the list of

ways that you can get i wonder how far you could get before you had to turn around and lee and come back uh not very far like could you walk all the way to the border no west island maybe in a couple days door val cornwall door val why don't you go down uh oh yeah you can go that's that direction oh yeah yeah i always feel like cornwalls to the to our west but it is kind of southwest it's south all right so here's what you do hit the treadmill yeah and then when you die we'll go time yeah and then we'll see how far it says and then we'll know that's how far you could have gone okay i'm dead what are we looking forward to this week uh i want to play more golf story and more i'm gonna check out golf story i'm gonna check out star trek discovery which i did not check out last

week i did not i also did not check we should very much check that out i don't know if i want to check that you have to know i'll check it out when there's a few more episodes there was like two no i think there's only one um i might you should know oh blade runner is this weekend is it yes or this is the other blade runner anime you know concerning discovery uh oh orville has horrendous critic ratings but good red good fan ratings and discoveries the reverse blowing critical reviews but horrible fan reviews i can understand what you guys should know that i saw i saw plague bitching about it one has seph mcfarland in it though you guess which one one's a isn't disaster artist about to drop no december oh fuck i thought it was dude it just won another grand prize awarded

another film festival that's pretty good hmm it keeps building it up man building it up well you got anything coming up on verses anything fancy uh you're like no i mean if you listen close enough i want fancy answers only if you listen close enough a hint dropped but beyond that yeah actually fancy paying attention yeah you know more things that people like and less things that people don't like that's a good plan and less things that people like to that's a good thing that's good too i might stream something over the week at angriest pad that's it for me i just put up a uh like a zeno gears disc two you what you did one of me sitting in a chair explaining how all the footage got lost on one of our table lords campaigns all right what happened

yeah right oh well but there's other fun stuff coming so don't worry i saw a spoiler for table lords that i don't understand but it looks cool oh yeah i think i know what you saw the thing that mothman man yeah yeah that was really good that was really good uh yeah man that's it that's all so woolly is afraid of ghosts terrified and and wants to punch merman at first i was afraid i was trying to think of let's i'm gonna combine all of the things yeah today and it's gonna be the ghost of a really long game made out of syringes yeah that's not bad like it's gonna be it's gonna be like a human sized copy of the witcher three made entirely out of syringes but transparent and it's yeah and it's free to play later see you later

so uh so you