Castle Super Beast - SBFC 218: The Apes were Raised in Oat Baths to Please the Horse's Tastes

Episode Date: October 10, 2017

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Starting point is 00:00:54 Alright, let's get into a podcast, shall we? Hello. You see this shit where you're gonna fight Anubis in Assassin's Creed Origins? What? No, don't wanna see. Shut up. You're jumping into news right away there. No, I just saw this just now. Okay. But everyone's dressed as Anubis in the game. No, but it's like a screenshot of like a thousand foot tall magical Anubis and you're fighting him in like Ghost Heaven. Ghost Heaven's cool. That's fine. It's probably like a like a dream sequence. Well, it says that it's part of the post-launch stuff and it's gonna be trial of the gods where you fight the Egyptian gods. That's cool. I have no idea why the
Starting point is 00:01:31 fuck that's in there, but fuck it. I mean, it's probably not canon, but that's awesome. You know what? It's the animus, dude. I think you're right. That's probably not canon. Yeah. Unless someone is using pieces of Eden to construct gods. Listen, listen, if that happens, if that's how it's gonna go, I want to go back to the old to a different AC game and fight Jesus. Yeah. Are you a Minerva? Well, we fought the Pope, but you don't fight them. They just show up. She talked to you. Yeah, he's talking about like creating our stupid gods. That'd be cool. But like, I always love the Stargate thing of, hey, we're just weirdo aliens and we have masks that look like
Starting point is 00:02:11 this and you look at the mask and you take what you want from that. If you think that looks like a jackal, it's not. It's more like a bunny that's on our planet. And if it looks like if you worship it, I don't care. But this is what we look like. Ancient Egyptians just like saw some other shit and thought it was our shit. You know, it's like ancient Egyptian, ancient Egypt had like fandoms and they're like, oh, I'm all about Anubis. Anubis season three has been great so far. And all the other friends like, nah, man, Horace is always better. Horace has been going strong for like 10 years. I'd be great if like it's all their TV shows watching Cairo flicks.
Starting point is 00:02:49 Yeah, Cairo flicks. The Nile flicks, Nile flicks. So, hey, you know what? I can officially say I've gone from Marcy to Madison Square. That's a don't know what that means. And so that's a it's a it's a it's a wrap reference. It's a wrap thing. That's that's a thing I've always wanted to do. And now we've done it. Even even though you say that I'm going to imagine you physically making that journey is not actually what that lyric is about. No, no, no, like when it was said, I don't think Uber was a thing. No, I don't think I don't think Mr.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Carter took an Uber from the bridge. No, that's that's that's a gangsta. Over to MSG. No, I don't think so. But hey, New York, New York. Oh, we're in an empire state of mind for a good while. Were we? Oh, I think we were just I think we were just hungry most of the time. I think I think the empire state of mind was just hunger. You have any good street meat? Yeah. Because yeah, I thought that was more intense than I expected. No, I did. Since he's on Keto, guess what?
Starting point is 00:03:55 He can only get street meat. It was it was really cool because of food. Yeah, that happened, too, though. It was mostly picking apart sandwiches. But for the for oh, you're an asshole. Why am I nice to picking apart a sandwich makes you a dirt bag? But I don't have a shitting on the sandwich. No, no, no, no, the bread is no good bread.
Starting point is 00:04:16 That's the whole point. I deal with it with enough of this crap at home. That's I don't need to deal with this. Hey, you're not. Hey, I understand. However, trying not to die is more important. No, it isn't. So you can keep the integrity of the sandwich together and continue dying. Good. I'll work on the opposite.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Good. OK. I'll be dead. I'll draw that. I'll teach you. But you were like this to my life for a sandwich. That's how I was eating like pretzel pizzas in its face. Good. That's the best part. Now, here's what's up. Wait, what the what the hell is a pretzel pizza? It's like at Auntie Anne's, they have like this big pretzel
Starting point is 00:04:50 and they just put mozzarella cheese and pepperonis on it. It's fucking it's amazing. What was cool is a bombination. It was amazing. Well, what's cool is that they they the street meat carts, which we don't have here because we're not allowed because restaurant corruption always a fan. Thanks, Montreal.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Oh, don't worry. There's plenty of other business corruption to go around. Oh, for sure. But that's one of the bad ones because like is it directly like helps you out? Well, it's like it's like it's like hungry or basically like the like the whole Uber thing Uber might be like is going away in Montreal. It's like, yeah, OK, officially, but they're just going to continue to operate as they were.
Starting point is 00:05:27 They're probably going to be gone. I mean, the app was going unofficially for two years before they set it out here. So it's probably going to continue either way. Enjoy being arrested. We'll see. But but like it's the same kind of problem. And once you all have this issue where it's like, hey, no street meat allowed, no street carts allowed, why?
Starting point is 00:05:46 Oh, well, for health reasons, which is a public security issue, right? It's good on the surface. Sure. And then you're like, OK, cool. And then you go, well, we can actually have health inspectors verify that and check up regularly to see if it's possible. Sorry, I can't hear you. I'm going into a tunnel. Oh, no. Oh, well, no, it's about how our city's visual aesthetic is being compromised
Starting point is 00:06:07 by these things on the street corners. We don't want to have our pretty European looking city can't be like compromised by these street carts. No, no, no, that's a bad thing. It's like, yeah, but other cities that have this in their core have not like compromised any of that at all. Plus you have ice cream carts walk going and biking around. Setting up in the same spots all the time.
Starting point is 00:06:28 So clearly, that's not the issue. What's the real issue? OK, so you can have food trucks, but it can only go to food to our locations, right? Like like the Olympic Stadium and the park. Class days are and the park under the old portfront waterfront. That's it. And you're like, so what's that about? So now you're willing to let it happen. It's like, OK, but only if you have a real brick and mortar restaurant to why?
Starting point is 00:06:53 What does that have to do with anything? And you just you peel back the layers of bullshit and you find out that it's because restaurant owners in Montreal formed a lobby and they don't want competition. Amen. And then they just barked and and and took control for years to just basically go, no, we don't want competition. So we're going to put arbitrary rules in place. And if you apply to get a truck, you have to like you have to get approved
Starting point is 00:07:17 by a board of people that all own rest of the elders, the robot elders of Montreal, who you're competing with old robots. So they get to just say no to anybody arbitrarily at any time. So it's bullshit. Right. The all time favorite Montreal, like nonsensical bureaucracy corrupt to fucks is the metro system when they were extending it up north. Yeah, that was like, whoops.
Starting point is 00:07:41 We accidentally dug like 30 extra kilometers so that it would happen to be right next to this local. Hey, new stations, you guys. Well, it was a mistake, but we already spent the money digging it. Might as well build two stations. That really pisses me off because it goes to Laval, who cares. It should go into the West Island more. Yeah, but no fucking.
Starting point is 00:08:07 They're building one when when I'm next year when they accidentally they're building the funds. They're building a high speed rail system to the West Island. So yeah, we've heard better. But it's so like we're going to get all those West Islanders. It's just it's just so like so I can visit my family in corruption in this city. And like the Uber thing is a whole is the same kind of thing. We're just like, exactly.
Starting point is 00:08:27 People have been ride sharing on Craigslist for years. But what's going on over here? What's that people meeting up? Oh, can I get my hand in this pie? I would like to get inside. Can you allow me to wet my beak? You know, anyway, you wet your beak. He loves even doing it now.
Starting point is 00:08:43 And he just says it every so often. It's the fucking Godfather thing to do. Seeing your like behavior. Like it's like it's like when you see a fighting game player and they have certain behavior, you just love you just love busting out that normal. He comes into our territory and does not allow us to wet our. Exactly. Because it's from something like that. Exactly. It was Godfather.
Starting point is 00:09:03 So remember, I remember Matt and I were looking at these things and we were looking at like the the earthquake damage in Japan a few years ago. Right. And you saw these highways that had been sundered. Right. The highway that one part is like now 10 feet higher than the other part of the highway. And then you saw the picture of it a week later. And it was perfect and beautiful and fine as I look out in front of my street to see 10 guys standing around while one guy with a cherry picker just slowly grates at the street to make it good for snow removal.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Hey, man, it takes like three fucking days. Hey, man, that guy's got a that guy's been a whole watcher for three generations in his family. His father was a whole watcher. That's like we can we can bitch about cabs and restaurants and shit. But the fact that the fucking construction lasts all year into winter and it's done so it has to be redone the next year. My favorite is is not too far from here. There is like a little mart that opened up and it's called like Kmart or something.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Not Kmart, but you know what? El Mart, something like that. It's just a little grocery store you go in and it's got like alcohol, it's got food, it's got whatever. And it says grand opening has a little cute sign, but it's hard to see. And it's at the bottom of a big apartment building. Not more than two days later, they put all the tarps and shit and they'll have all the overhangs.
Starting point is 00:10:26 You cannot see the front entrance and there's 17 cherry pickers and a thousand guys looking at the cherry pickers. And it's been like that for the last two months now. Yeah. And this place all it can now have is one tiny side entrance with one little sign that says like here, please. The best. Oh, my God. I was looking up a fucking article a while ago.
Starting point is 00:10:48 It's like what the best cities to live in Canada, right? Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver pretty much top the list, right? Montreal and Vancouver fight each other on a couple of things. But Montreal loses the heart. It's the worst city to own a business in the entire country because of that, because of what you just said. Because you open your business and then for three years, the road to your business is gone.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Much further up on St. Denis, they had they had everything closed and they were just doing the road and they have no sidewalks in front of the businesses. And it had to be like the businesses are open. Sure, we're blocking almost every possible way to get in them, but they're open and you just you just got it. Like it expects pedestrians to do work. They shouldn't have to do the best is how like what was it? I want to say three years ago, our mayor got super in trouble
Starting point is 00:11:39 for massive, massive collusion and corruption. Oh, yeah. And they're like, this dude was involved. Really? Super deal with the super deal and with the super deal. And like had like millions of dollars and whatnot. And like they, you know, they yanked him and fucking put him through the ringer. But they didn't stop the deals. They got a figurehead. Incas, but the deals are done.
Starting point is 00:12:05 And, you know, business is fucking usual. No show jobs, all the rest. Anyway, it's it's crazy in this town. It's crazy. Going back to New York real quickly, I was really happy to get a picture of New York bio ooze in that photo. I was like, this is amazing. Is this literally TGRI mutagen in the fucking gutters? And I asked someone like, I asked someone at the fan meetup
Starting point is 00:12:32 that we had later on the weekend. So what was that actually? Everyone's like, coffee is heavily involved in that color. OK, there's no way coffee is not. That's actually primarily probably what it is. And then some type of sports drink and they there you have it. There I saw New York rat scamper up into the bushes. I was excited to see him.
Starting point is 00:12:56 He was as big as I thought it would be. It was pretty. Do you have the red glowing eyes? I mean, he wasn't in like DT mode just yet. You know, that's that's on New Game Plus, but it definitely was at the end of his life bar. Yeah. Um, no, I don't want to know how. But what was nice was the ability to like, yeah, get on a street like Shish kebab or whatever.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Just like meat on a stick. Just like, you know, type of moment. And I'm like, this is delicious. And this is exactly what I need right now, you know, to because this is a restriction. I need food on a stick. That's I need meat on a stick and some vegetables. And then I'm good.
Starting point is 00:13:31 And even then, I bet if you just ask a guy for a hot dog, you'd be like, no, but he'd probably not give you any guff unlike like restaurants that would be like, yeah, you want to carry. So it would still be the same amount of money. But yeah, yeah. Um, but shout out to the street vendors, because since we went to New York Comic Con, I complained about this. The only water they would sell is Desani,
Starting point is 00:13:52 which is basically Satan. I don't understand how it's it continues to sell with I don't. I don't know. Because like when you think about like people talk about the difference in taste between what I'm not a bottled water drinker. OK, so let's back up. No problem. We see. Absolutely. Does Desani bottle water actually taste different?
Starting point is 00:14:15 So let me get I was just about to get there. I was just about to get there, right? I've got a random bottle of water. What is this? This is Kirkland Springs signature. It's a local brand. Sure. Yeah. Right. Then there's like Evian and whatever other. Exactly. Generic water. Right. And then people talk about water.
Starting point is 00:14:31 And people talk about the different tastes and some have different. Fiji actually doesn't taste like water. That tastes like goods. I'm not the person. Like I can tell the difference between like distilled and not and tap water, basically, right? Yeah. I like that's clear because it just it comes. No minerals in that.
Starting point is 00:14:47 There's no exactly. Right. You can tell the difference. But outside of that, I'm like, one water bottle to another, it's fucking water for the most part. I don't have enough of a refined pallet to be able to tell you what brand of water you're drinking, right? Except for Desani, because Desani has a metallic tinge to it. I would say the texture even has this oily
Starting point is 00:15:09 like gleam on the top. I can't say I noticed that, but I definitely when I taste it, I feel like it's thicker than water. It's the weirdest. No, fuck that. That's you shouldn't be able to tell that. I know. And that's what's so fucked up. Also, I don't know how truthful this is when I looked at the bottle.
Starting point is 00:15:28 Like I didn't buy a bottle, but I pick one up. Someone goes, well, Coca Cola or whatever Pepsi, whatever. They're the only one of them. Yeah, PepsiCo owns the sunny and they add salt to make you get thirstier to buy more. And that could maybe that I don't I don't know. But I mean, like they definitely own it. Desani is that seems that would explain Desani is a Cola owned bottle.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Yeah, but, you know, when when Stamper says it's like going down on a on a T1000, you know, like he has a point because there's this weird aftertaste that you shouldn't have at all. And it's and it's so noticeable. And it has tastes like liquid metal that you're wondering like how this gets put out as just water. Like, you know what I mean? Like if they called it something like like you expect like fizzy water
Starting point is 00:16:15 or like flavored water or whatever to come out like metal water. You know, like it feels like they should this has an acceptable amount of lead. It's so weird. It's very big ups to the street vendors for selling Poland Spring, which is tap water, whether it tastes way better. Yeah. So I was happy to drink. I don't I don't know if it's Coke or Pepsi, but whichever one of the companies owns the sunny, they like they are probably. Yeah, I don't know if it's salt, but I but they're doing something
Starting point is 00:16:44 because it's like tap water doesn't taste that metallic. Yeah, there's something a mess. Well, not if you live in a good part of the country. Well, fucking I would go down to Flint, Michigan and get some of that rust water up in no and taste. Have you seen that shit? It's not rust water. It's tar. It's poison. And it probably tastes better than this.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Probably where they get the shiny from. They just dilute that. It's super weird. Anyway, so yeah, whatever. Anyway, I guess water is poison. Great. Got it. Everyone that's ever drank water is died. It's true. Yeah. New York observations, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:22 New York is New York. New York, New York. The reason why no one's ever in those pedal cabs is because they're fucking ripoffs. How much do you charge it? Well, you didn't. I didn't take it. But I was like, how much do you leave? So getting to and leaving from the Comic Con was a nightmare every day because you're talking 30 plus thousand people in a couple of street blocks. Yeah. And, you know, you and the what's
Starting point is 00:17:43 it's soulless, but it's also helpful in the way New York is built, is that like from an urban planning perspective, it's not actually hard to visualize like where you got everything's numbers. So if you're like numbers and grids and yeah, so you're like, I'm down on whatever 36th and he's like, where do you want to go? And I'm like going up to 12th. And he's like, oh, OK, that's clearly 20 blocks. Yeah, that's a while, you know, and so on and so forth, exactly.
Starting point is 00:18:07 But yeah, so this duty was it was like basically like what amounted to an eight minute ride in a cab would be like maybe like this under 10 bucks. And I was like, hey, you know, obviously you can't get a cab here. Yeah. What would it cost? Because he's his seats empty. They're all empty. And I'm like, whoa, you know, he's like, ah, usually we go by the minute, but I'll take you up there for let's say 40 bucks. I'm like, all right, that's cool. All right, catch you later, man.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Keep I'll keep walking. See, here's the thing. Well, you know what you're paying for? You're paying for seeing another person's struggle. Perhaps. No, no, no. What you're actually paying for is that's literally that price, because that's the fastest way to get there. Because when I would look on the GPS or whatever, I would walk every day from the hotel to the thing, which is like about almost two
Starting point is 00:18:52 miles. Yeah. Because when you look at it, it says walking thirty one minutes, driving twenty nine minutes. So I'm not saving that much time or whatever. And then it'll say biking eight minutes because they just don't give a fuck because they can just go. So I was so I know I ubered it around for the most part. But even that walk that died. Well, yeah, like it and that was a better decision than like trying
Starting point is 00:19:18 to catch like a cab down. So it's so stupidest thing about cabs here is for some reason, when people are in it, they don't turn the lights off because they're ads. So, you know, when you see the light on top of a taxi, yeah. And then it's like it's like saying, hey, I'm a taxi, but also this is an ad. So here in Montreal, when someone gets in the car, the light goes off. So that you're not going to flag that car down. And yes, it's that doesn't apply in New York.
Starting point is 00:19:41 So you're flagging down every single one until you see someone in the car. It doesn't matter during the day. Sure. But it's easy to see someone in the back of the car at night. It's not. So you're walking up to cars, the divider. You're walking up to cars in the back and opening the door and someone's like, oh, and I'm like, oh, shit, you know, that happened. That happened. Oh, that's. And then I watch that happen to other people constantly because the fucking light doesn't turn off.
Starting point is 00:20:03 So anyway, and then obviously when you want to uber it, you got to still go through that traffic deal. And like multiple ubers are pulling up on the same corner because it's the closest address. So everyone's using that address as a pickup. Pause, but it's a nightmare. Traffic is fucking ridiculous. I got a great idea. You ready?
Starting point is 00:20:19 Ban all cars. There you go. Well, what about what about Minority Report? Mary Ports, the best thing there. Everything is an auto, auto, auto driving. Everything's on a tram. Everything's on a tram. And you don't own a car. You can off the street in the country and stuff.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Super high in the city. You just you just take all for a car and like then close. I got a friend of mine who works on those cars. Yeah, like his job, man. That shit's coming, man. Oh, yeah, it's coming fast. I recently listened to an interesting podcast talking about, like the the sacrifice problem of if.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's super interesting. It's like if you're in a self-driving car and you're what you're alone and it's about to hit a family of four with children. Yeah, you want to parol right through. What would you OK? Well, what would you want the car to do? I would want the car to shoot out like a wall of foam.
Starting point is 00:21:14 OK, actually, here's the question. So I could do you want the car to save you or do you want the car to save? It can only save one, right? And it's interesting because obviously it's too late now because the way we got into this conversation didn't like it. Didn't like set it up properly. But you ask people objectively, a car is drawing with one person in it
Starting point is 00:21:33 and there's four people about to get hit by it. The car can only save one group. What should it do? And everyone says, well, I'll kill the driver because. Yeah, and the problem got solved when that was actually put to focus groups and no one's going to buy a car that kills you because you then ask the same person the same question,
Starting point is 00:21:50 except you are in the car and everyone's like, fuck, no, I wouldn't buy that car. No, why would you buy a car that kills you? And it put everyone agrees. The right thing to do would be to save them. That's why I'd like to drive a car manually. You never know. You never know what's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Be an automatic car that makes an automatic decision. And so it's a huge conundrum because everyone agrees on what the right procedure should be. But no one personally wants to be the driver of that car. Now, there's a certain level. It's like, well, I want to I want to protect me. Yeah, like, well, what we can do is put razor blades and like battering rams in front.
Starting point is 00:22:28 It's like, no, I don't want to like completely I don't want to Mad Max the family. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why I said like Styrofoam wall to like. It's it's a super interesting. It's a super interesting like real life moral dilemma that we're actually approaching. Don't worry, we'll try to solve.
Starting point is 00:22:45 We'll never approach it in Montreal. The fact that the construction here never ends means automatic cars will never happen. Yeah, the potholes will just swallow. No, because you need highly detailed maps to do that kind of stuff. And have you seen a map of Montreal that's accurate? No, never.
Starting point is 00:23:00 You never have ever because it's always wrong. Our automatic cars will just have tank treads. Yeah, yeah, fuck it. All right, so I won't go back in the car. Just roll over Jimmy, Jimmy, two and Jimmy, three. Just use carriages again. I mean, we've I've got there's horses. There's horses around all the time.
Starting point is 00:23:16 You know, let's all get into them. But the horse is shit everywhere. And then there will be another will then get a type of ape that eats horse shit. But what like that joke didn't work that well this time, and it's just weird. Well, I thought someone will continue. But what will curb the ape population?
Starting point is 00:23:31 Don't worry, because during Montreal winters, the apes will freeze to death. Then we just fly in a new wave of apes in the spring. What do we do about the ape corpses? Now we got ape corpses everywhere. Good thing horses love ape corpses. OK, that's not real. Perfect.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Then we might get a group of horses that have a taste for fucking simian flesh. OK, well, then we can set up the street vendors. And they can just start selling the meat. There we go. And if we raise the apes in oat baths, they will naturally say they will naturally be sent in like oats.
Starting point is 00:24:10 So you're not. And therefore we maintain the oat pellet. You're not on the horse. The apes in oats to armor them. No, I mean, that's a more delicious. You keep them. You keep them. Oat flavors like a crit like a fish stick. Yeah, you better though.
Starting point is 00:24:27 You better those apes in oats and oats and the horses love fucking feel right. So you've got that goddamn day every day. And so the apes are eating the horseship, but they're caked in the oats. And then when they die naturally in the Montreal winter, the horses and their frozen corpses self-sustaining, self-sustaining, perpetual motion.
Starting point is 00:24:47 There's always something about the turbo. If it was going to just go to the apes, freeze to death. Cheery even. So, so, so. Oh, I tried something I didn't tell you about real quickly since we're still I tried a lot of things I didn't tell you about. Oh, yeah, I know. I follow a very funny blog on Twitter called Seriously,
Starting point is 00:25:07 which just reviews cereals and funds very nicely written. And I saw him lamenting on the fact that like, oh, I can't try it because I don't live in Manhattan. Burger King launched their cinnamon toast crunch milkshake and they have these other milkshakes like Lucky Charms and Oreo, whatever. And I never got to try those because I Montreal know that I was like, I really want to try the cinnamon toast crunch
Starting point is 00:25:31 and tell the guy like how it was because he was asking me like, you know, if you can try it, please do. But you can't know no problem. So I go to the worst. But like it wasn't called burger like it was Burger King, but it shouldn't be called Bumble Kings because I've never seen the most disorganized Burger King ever. It was just a fucking free for all there are no lines.
Starting point is 00:25:48 It was just madness. And I look at the board and I'm like, oh, God, they don't have it. They have Lucky Charms and they have whatever. And I'm like, fuck, maybe I'll get another one. I don't know to get to the line. I'm like, yeah, I can have a shake. The fruit loops, I guess a fruit loop shake. And she's like, no, we don't have fruit loops.
Starting point is 00:26:08 I'm like, OK, and we don't have Lucky Charms either. And I go, oh, do you have cinnamon toast crunch then? No. OK. Well, we have cinnamon toast crunch, though. OK, I'll take that. She's like, OK, then just gives it to me. And it's fruit loops and it's fruit loops. No, cinnamon toast crunch. And, you know, actually, I'll just give a little interview.
Starting point is 00:26:29 It was really, really good. I drank like maybe like less than half of it because I'm like, I'm going to get sick if I drink this. It's a giant. Yeah. Yeah. But basically it's very, very creamy, not that sweet. And I had little tiny bits of cinnamon toast crunch. It was really good. I was just like, yeah, if my city was allowed this, I would get it every summer
Starting point is 00:26:51 once or twice, but it was there was a journey to get there because there was only one Burger King in downtown Manhattan for some fucking reason, a strange McDonald's country. Yeah, probably. Yeah. So I guess like there's a blur of things. So it might as well like break this up into my ass. It's fucking burnt into like pre New York into old York now into whatever we did before.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Yeah, I actually don't have that much. I think I told the pad a little bit or maybe one of you. I watched a very short series called Channel Zero. Pirate Treasure Cove. Oh, definitely. It didn't tell me about that. Well, I told you about this, is that this is a show that's based on like a creepypasta or like Reddit stories passed around where someone
Starting point is 00:27:42 came up with the idea saying, do you remember this really weird show where was puppets and was very creepy? It used to play on a channel. And then the next post would be someone playing along with the narrative. Right. Yeah, that was really fucked up. Does anyone remember this else happening? It's like, no, I don't remember it. And then a show like a narratively based show is based around this idea
Starting point is 00:28:05 where a child psychologist just remembers this creepy show called like Pirate Cove. Kevin Cove got the name of it is he goes back to his hometown. I love him. No, no, I wish I love him. I appreciate it and goes back to his hometown and things start happening again. It's very Stephen King, where children start disappearing, start acting very strange and the show appears late at night. But no adults remember it.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Only kids remembered it. And it's like a whole thing that that springs out of his relationship with his twin brother. Very, very creepy, very good. I'm sorry, you're talking about people not remembering the show as the content of the show you're describing. Yeah, OK, I thought you were talking about the show you were describing not being remembered by people and I got really confused.
Starting point is 00:28:53 So you use the use the names, use the names to make it clear. He doesn't remember the names. Oh, OK, the entire concept of the Reddit thread was someone just thinking up the idea of a creepy puppet show. OK, certain people remember. So this was a Reddit thread talking about a show and then Max Landis, who's one of the producers on this, decided to turn that into a real thing and let's make it into a sixth episode narrative.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Many series on YouTube on sci-fi. OK, and now it's released on VODs and stuff. OK, that it's that was a very hard to follow. Admittedly, it's a hard concept to describe. And so, yeah, Max Landis produced this and it was very good. It was kind of weird. It had a very true detective sort of you don't remember what it's called. It's called Channel Zero, Channel Zero.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Yeah, OK, and there's two. It's it's a lot like American Horror Story, where there's a first season called Channel Zero Cove and then the next one is called Channel Zero. No, no land. Is it Candle Cove? Candle Cove. Yes, thank you. What a creepy show. So it has a few creatures in it that rival anything. Guillermo del Toro or Silent Hill have ever come up with. I describe one of these as a short child height creature
Starting point is 00:30:10 that is made head to toe and human teeth. OK, this I remember with no eyes, just a mouth and it's just it's just teeth. It's so fun. I know exactly where somebody got the idea for that. You ever see X-rays of kids teeth before they see all their teeth in the back up? You ever seen this, Willie? It's horrible. Oh, yeah, it's super fucked. Like there's an entire set of teeth above their teeth inside their face.
Starting point is 00:30:37 It's the worst thing ever. Children are like sharks. Yeah, they're they're gone. It's really scary. So, yeah, that that's only six episodes. And I and I quite liked it. Very good, very good ending. We also watched your loads of golden girls because fucking killer. Because all the girls about the entire season about the entire series on DVD. There's a lot of jokes and golden girls that I'm like, whoa, that's racy for today. That's filthy. Rue McClanahan.
Starting point is 00:31:04 That's filthy for you old ladies. Don't do that. And some jokes that are like, whoa, you can't say that anymore. Whoa, why are they acting so weird? But that's so like, even though it started in the mid eighties, like still like laughing at it pretty hard. There's lots of lots of good zingers in there. And as a kid, I was always shocked when someone told me the woman that plays the oldest woman, the 80 year old grandma.
Starting point is 00:31:30 She is not, in fact, super not that she's like actually one of the younger people on the show and they just gave her makeup and I'm like, whoa, that's crazy. We saw Benjamin Button, anybody. Yeah, you could. We saw Blade Runner, but I'll probably defer to you. Oh, I heard you guys say that was shit. Yeah, what a terrible movie. Well, that's what the box office says. Yeah, that is what the box office said.
Starting point is 00:31:52 They said the same thing about arrival. No, they didn't. And Pacific Rim. Yeah. Wow, you just need to catch yourself. Well, it's the same director. Arrival had a much smaller budget, though. Did it? This is small for what it was, but it was still a fucking like, yeah, no. Anyway, yeah, I had one last thing. Is that like I forgot that the flight to New York is like an hour.
Starting point is 00:32:16 So I was like, all set to play this and that. Well, just do the rest of it. Might as well just do. No, that's what I mean. OK, OK. I didn't really get a chance to play that many games. A new build of the takeover came out and I was spent. I spent the trip to New York and the trip back from New York. Just writing one email to be like this, this, this, this, this.
Starting point is 00:32:39 And by the time I'm like, oh, I'm almost going to be done soon. I can now take out my switch. I'm like, we are now arriving. Take out all your fun devices and stow them away for the next 35 minutes. I can't stand this now that like 35 minutes before you're going to land. Take out all your fucking shit. So you need a book. So here's the thing with that.
Starting point is 00:33:01 That seems to be our Canada exclusive. And it's really weird because, yeah, because the and the headphones thing as well, take out your pickpocketing headphones thing is an air Canada thing, because like I remember like Javelin, when he was up here, he was going like, what's going off? Yeah, he was like, what the fuck is with this? Not like bothering me while I'm doing my thing with my headphones thing with Air Canada. No other airline I've flown.
Starting point is 00:33:27 That's fucked up. I didn't know that. I was like, huh, have I only taken Air Canada? Well, I mean, I can't do well. I feel like I feel like I don't get bugged about my headphones on like some of the other flights. But I have to take my knowledge. You tend to take it depends on what line you're on. Air Canada lately, because American Airlines loses
Starting point is 00:33:43 everyone's bags every single time, every single time. Sure. And then there's United, which is fun times. You know, if you feel like getting into a fighting game, then you can you can do that. But it's yeah, I don't know what that's about. And it's really annoying because I really wish that I could like just keep my headphones on or at least like what I'd like to do is like tilt one off so that I can still hear what your announcement is one time. And then do my thing.
Starting point is 00:34:09 I took one headphone out and I had a hood on like I have now. And I just one like doesn't my shit. I'm like, yeah, it's cool. I'll still my tray. Yeah, she's got something wrong with your neck. So no. Like, yeah, so that's me. OK, yeah, for me, what happened was I played some Cuphead. It's very good. It's very challenging.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Hey, you're right. It's I haven't done I haven't done co-op. But I've only done single player ops. Hard to shit. It's way harder than regular. But like you can bring each other back to life. Yes, but it's hard to do it. The it's you have to parry them. Yeah. Well, you get the auto jump parry. But the problem is, is that having another.
Starting point is 00:34:53 So the camera control becomes super fucked up in co-op because whoever's at the front just dies. OK, every time. And if you're an enemy placement, it's pretty random. Yeah. And if you're too close together, I'm talking the scrolling levels. Yeah, whoever's the front just dies in the running guns. And if you're too close together, Cupman and Mugman, Cuphead and Mugman,
Starting point is 00:35:13 I don't know how you would do this, but it is genuinely difficult, even though they're different colors, to always keep in your mind which one is which. That's weird. I would not have that problem. Blue and red are pretty clear. Well, there's a lot of shit all over the screen all the time. Whenever like you go to jump and you're like, how come I didn't jump and you go, wait, I did jump.
Starting point is 00:35:34 OK, because, you know, shit like that. Yeah, but I mean, as a solo game, oh, it's astounding as I'm enjoying it thoroughly. And that's, you know, you're you're you're getting that right amount of like, OK, I got close. I was like a couple hits away, but that one last part powder, the last phase is a fucking pain in the ass slash like I couldn't have known what was going to come when that phase started.
Starting point is 00:35:59 You know, there's some fucking clown guy that just the roller coaster just comes in from the right side of the screen instantly. And there's some challenges that I'm like, I've faced this in other games so many times, but this super limited life bar and the con and like the size of everything in this game just makes this one thing harder. It's when you're fighting the the cake queen lady. Oh, man, right. Brutal.
Starting point is 00:36:24 And like you get through all the minions, no problem. And you're and you're jumping on her little mini nights to get your little shots. And then it starts crawling and the fucking head comes out. And it's just a simple like projectile that tracks to you, stops and then tracks to you again and stops for a few seconds. But that in the midst of everything else moving is the hardest thing in the world.
Starting point is 00:36:48 You know, you could parry the peppermint. Well, it's pink. So yeah, anything pink you parry. Yeah, I didn't realize it. Sometimes you know, it's like the color. It doesn't it doesn't make the connection because sometimes some objects are not 100 percent pink. Like there's a bit of white. The fact that it was.
Starting point is 00:37:03 No, I threw me off. I immediately tried it right away. Like as soon as I see a pink anywhere, I assume that's what they want to happen. And yeah, no, the fact that the parallax is scrolling in that stage and the cake tower is like a horrific John Carpenter beast and all that shit. That thing that last part, it's it should be easy. It's not. Yeah. And like if everything kept moving, it'd be fine
Starting point is 00:37:33 because your sense of like it'd be like a schmup, right? Where like you just you just dodge through them and find the path. And then you do that little eye shield 21 thing with your brain where you see a line and you go there, there, there, there, there. I'm alive. Yeah. But here it's like, no, it stops. And that one little detail fucks everything up. And like a lot of the bosses have something like that where there's like, there's just this one part of this one phase that you're like, fuck me.
Starting point is 00:37:57 Yeah. And there's even parts like after it that are not, it's tough. But it's just that like, yeah, there's just one thing that throws you off. William, I'm not sure if you'd agree, but I think there's there's one feature could use to be the ability to skip bosses. Be good. Sip and swallow. Yeah. I was amazed when you hit that second run and gun level and it's on just a steep enough slope that your shots are pretty much useless.
Starting point is 00:38:29 As you're going up the log until their point blank. And I'm like, you fucks, all you had to do was make it slightly less inclined. And you made it just high enough that your gun is worthless. Did you do the running on level where you parry to reverse gravity? No, I haven't. It's the most I've ever haven't done so bad. That's crazy. It's like, but I did happen to have the auto parry trait on when the ghost challenge popped up. And I was like, that's a free room. Oh, hell yeah. That's, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:00 you don't even have to think about it. The second one's not even that much harder either. Okay. Um, the like those charms, like ghost parry. And sorry, instant parry or the smoke bomb or the only two to choose. So I have a complaint and that is in my, maybe I missed it, but I started and then I started again. And I, in the shop, it doesn't indicate what type of item you're buying. If I'm not mistaken, does it? Yeah. Does it say whether it's a charm or a shot or a thing? Oh, no, it's not.
Starting point is 00:39:31 That's what I'm saying. I was like, I just have to infer. Yeah. Because obviously if it tells you it's a type of weapon, you know, it's either, it's either you get that much, right? Drinks are weapons, but I and the everything that's not a drink is a charm. So I assumed that I was going to get, uh, what's the fourth type again? There's a Supers. It's shot, shot, super. Yeah. Yeah. So I basically are like early on, I mean, obviously again, it's like you experience will fix this.
Starting point is 00:39:55 But first time I spent a bunch of my money, it was all on charms. And I thought I'd be able to equip these things in parallel, like a build. Yeah. And it was not that they were all these things I had to switch out from. I was like, ah, I would have liked to get the auto pair. And you get smoke bomb and you're like, this is going to be great. And you're like, oh, I only get one. You figure it out immediately afterwards. So it's fine.
Starting point is 00:40:14 But I would have liked a thing in advance to just let me know which slot the item is going to go to that type of game. That would even let you like make a build. No, well, you do make a build with what they give you. Yeah. But what I just mean is like something to match things. Right. I'm all I'm saying is like right before you buy it, just say what type of item it is, like on the descriptions that you know exactly what slot it's going to, in case the description sounds like a charm,
Starting point is 00:40:37 but also like a weapon, you know, when I'm not throwing game journalist articles under the bus, I do have something serious to say about Cuphead, which is I'm really glad, though, that like after those stories where like we had to mortgage our houses, like our entire lives were dependent on the success of this game. It's nice to see that it's like a huge success. If you have not bought Cuphead by Cuphead, it's you don't even you but you don't even need to.
Starting point is 00:41:01 But it's great because they they they're doing great as one of those games that I would just call an instant classic. I'm really happy that people love the actual classical look and get it right away and understand it and have fun with it. The main thing, though, of course, is like, yeah, like my girlfriend walks by and goes, wow, what is that? That's amazing. I'm like, yeah, it's a super cool old game. And she's watching me play.
Starting point is 00:41:24 And she's like, that looks really hard. And I'm like, it's pretty challenging. It's not that hard, though. Like it's quite difficult if but but what about what I'm it's not that hard if you are OK with like repetition, learning OK with trial and error and trial and error exactly. And that's where she's like, I would get so mad at this and stop playing. And I was like, really?
Starting point is 00:41:43 It's like, yeah, you know, and then we ended up talking about that. Whereas like, like I'm like, but you know, because the trial and error is where the fun comes in. And she's like, oh, no, to me, that's just like stopping me from seeing the next thing. Yeah. So I, you know, it's the it's just it's a mentality. There was an article that framed this nonsense as like a penny arcade comic about it. Yeah, it framed it as
Starting point is 00:42:04 what you're owed versus what you earn. But that's not what it's about. It's about the point brought up in the penny arcade comic that you're referencing. You want to play with the crabs? It's people that want to beat a game and people that want to see a game. Yeah, it's a clear difference. And that's why the article I wish I could skip boss fights. No, it's not fun is like the dumbest article ever
Starting point is 00:42:26 where it's like, what do we do when we do a video? And we're like, there's it's kind of meandering on. Let's go to the next boss or let's go to the boss, at least. Yes, because that's the showpiece. Because no, there are usually workers. You see the big there's a shitstorm video that has not gone up yet. It's one of the better ones. I love that fucking video in which we got stuck at a certain point
Starting point is 00:42:46 because it was somewhat more difficult than the preceding parts. And Matt and I like, OK, this might take a couple of tries. So we're going to cut the footage. But we're at least going to see this whole boss fight because this boss fight is awesome. Oh, guess what? A right when we stop that video. Shit, not again.
Starting point is 00:43:02 No, don't worry about it at the game kind of meanders for a while. Oh, great. See with with stuff we've already seen. You can you find the budget spikes. Yeah. Yeah. Well, not so much budget spikes, but a lot more like, all right, let's settle back into this rhythm after doing this different thing. And we like we stopped at the perfect time. Well, it's the biggest problem with most random third person shooter
Starting point is 00:43:26 mid-auts games is super crazy set piece beginning, nothing in the middle, big set piece ending. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The middle is the hardest like place to keep like attention or like where the whatever the budget, the pipeline was for the game. It's like it's because that's where the rules of game design come in hard and you have nothing else to hide inside. It also works the same for LPs, first two or three episodes.
Starting point is 00:43:53 You're right. Then at Peter's out, then when you get back to the end, like you're unless unless there's like a really interesting plot that's continuing throughout the thing. If there's a threat to follow the general rule, right? But you you're super right. And the and that again, it's like a video game thing because, you know, when you have films that are broken up into acts, you can you just await
Starting point is 00:44:13 that there's a structure to it that is meant to keep your interest peaked until a certain point and then find another climax. Right. With video games that kind of have this like this this bowl shape. Then you end up with this middle and like it's like the middle is where you get to see the game's design exposed raw. Yeah, exactly. You're used to the visuals. You're used to the mechanics.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Right. You've probably gotten not all the weapons, but enough to really have a handle on your character. Now what? What are you going to do to keep it interesting in this middle? Why whenever you see a gameplay demo at E3 or something like they always show off the care. OK, so there we are about halfway through the game in this part. Yeah, you have all your abilities, but you have some of those.
Starting point is 00:44:53 So this is what the most of the game is going to look like. Right. And and you can see the failures when it's just like, all right, I've been doing the same thing for four levels now in different locations. And you can see the successes like Titanfall 2 where it's like this level introduces something you will never see again. This level introduces something you will never do again. Yeah. You know, and then you just and you're like this is running on walls. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:18 And so like you can take the order of like the Titanfall levels and like rearrange them and get the same relative level of excitement. Yes. Going across, you know, and doing this now. And it's all fun in different ways. And you're like, that is a fucking solid design. So but yeah, no, Cuphead, I think is going to annoy a lot of people that want to see it, whereas people that want to beat it. So the other thing is that like
Starting point is 00:45:47 the idea like the skip the bosses thing at Cuphead is extra super double dumb stupid because it's all because it's a 95 percent boss rest game. Yeah. And also all that fancy animation that you want to see is all in the different phases in the face of the boss. Yeah, it is. So if you were able to skip a boss fight, you couldn't beat you. And also the boss fights get harder over time by far. Like the earlier bosses are way are chump compared to the later one.
Starting point is 00:46:15 Like you would if you start skipping bosses because you can't beat them, you would just skip every single boss in the game and you wouldn't even get what you wanted. Yeah, you need to develop the skill to be able to deal with them and you're basically punishing yourself. And if that happens, I mean, it's it's a shame. But like, yeah, I guess the game, I guess, is not one that you're, you know, I mean, like it's not it's not it's fine to like feel that way about things, like to just want to like tour through them.
Starting point is 00:46:41 There's even a simple mode. There is a simple mode. And like I said, I like traveling mode and res because there's people that just want to feel the beat and the music and get through it without having to worry about that. So I understand that part of it. But like here, yeah, the phases of the boss where you fought and get got to that really hard point is where the animation that you want to see
Starting point is 00:47:02 is coming out and doing crazy shit. So maybe you should just get what's the matter, young kids? Not good at video games. Oh, anyway, the the other thing I did was I got a ways into Sam's returns. And how Sam was doing? Saw you playing it. Yeah, yeah, you could you could hear the ping from the sensor
Starting point is 00:47:29 across the across the airport. It's interesting how what like they made. Yeah, they definitely made a lot of changes to it. And a lot of them are for the better. Things are very interesting. It's a weirdly paced. It's always been a weirdly paced Metroid game. Because like you're really doing you're you're fighting a you're trying
Starting point is 00:47:51 to fucking exterminate you're exterminating. Exactly. You're not going through, you know, trying to find out the mystery. Exactly. You're not building up through to go fight trade and you're not building up to through Norfair and whatnot. My understanding is you land and I'm going to kill all these fucking Metro. You are. And there's a number. There's a number in the corner that says, go kill this many Metroids.
Starting point is 00:48:10 How many is 40? Oh, that's a lot of Metro. Right. You got to kill them and and they evolve and do stuff. Right. So that's there. And then you kind of unlike the other games where there were like you find things, but it's always after a sort of a buildup of progression. You kind of just find things lying around in in in Sam's returns. Yes, some things and some other things. Not so well, because I guess what I mean is like a lot of games, for example,
Starting point is 00:48:34 in Super, you fucking you blow up and trade, and then you run into the next room and you get your various suit upgrade, right? And like your a lot of the things will be like after you beat this boss, you then get this next cool like item, weapon, whatever, you know what I mean? Like the next major thing. And there's a few more Choso statues. They're just like, hey, so in the middle of your run. Yeah, like you just you pop open a door and then it's like, hey, cool,
Starting point is 00:49:02 dude, you got your missiles here. Like there's got your there's two Choso statues that are like in an adjacent rooms, but you can't go from point A to point B. So you have to like go around a bit, but they're still weird on the map that you see two items that are just like, yeah, I'm right here. I'm right next to that item. That's weird. So that's always been very different about it. And the other thing is that like the enemy variety has was always low, you know,
Starting point is 00:49:25 like it's like when you're running from area, you're definitely excuse me, dealing with a lot of the same types. The parry mechanic in this really makes it like almost trivial in a way. Well, it's always been trivial, but it's like it's fun to like parry and just shoot the shit right away. It gets you through them really quickly, but it also becomes pretty repetitive. You know, the times where I think like, I'm like, eh,
Starting point is 00:49:50 is when there's actual multiple enemies around you and they all go in at the same time and it only happens like a couple of times. Like they'd be like the bat and you parry all of them, you parry that. But then there's like the little rhino guy that's coming up on you. Those moments are like, oh, it's really cool because you can like in much more of a precise way, like it'll just let you parry two things really, really in succession at the third strike levels, obviously, but like much closer than you think you can only really one of them.
Starting point is 00:50:17 And then you got to go into manual. Yeah, but they stay stunned long enough that I I initially really disliked the manual aim free like the free form. But then I got used to it. And now I'm like, it's fine. It's super fine. There are certain sequences you can just have to use. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:33 But it's just, you know, in your head, Metroid equals eight way, right? Shots and a long and both in this. It's like you're running around shooting normal and you have your up and down, but you can then hold the L button to do a full more than eight way three at 360 degrees shot, which is weird for a Metroid game. That's weird. It is, but you get used to it. And it allows you to pull off like trick shots with missiles,
Starting point is 00:51:00 you know, that you otherwise couldn't. And one thing that's really interesting is that the missiles or when you aim rather, there's a laser that comes out of your gun and you can shoot something off screen because the laser changes color. So, you know, when it's when it's actually aimed on an enemy, it's red, but or the reverse. Yeah. So you just know that you're going to hit. I but I definitely miss the ability to like strafe
Starting point is 00:51:25 pointing in a single direction. You know, that's what you lose by having this 360 method implemented is you now cannot no longer unlock yourself looking up forward and then run forward and backwards and take out the Metroid more efficiently, you know. So there's little things like that, but ultimately it's it's it's fine. What they did is just different and they the game is sufficiently different enough around it that it's not a problem.
Starting point is 00:51:50 It's just I have preferences based on what I'm used to. And this is asking me to do something different. I don't want to do something different, says Willie. Sure. Game says, OK, you know, other modern contravences like, you know, the fusion grab ledge, ledge grab is of course here and check point saves. So yeah, right. A lot of that is is I mean, I'm glad those are in there
Starting point is 00:52:14 because they're only really in there like for bosses or after a boss. Yeah, the bosses have check point saves. But if you die midway through, you you start from a safe point. Um, that's fair. Like there are times where I was like, like, oh, fuck. And I was like, oh, wait, thank God, that was like a point. Because yeah, that I would have lost a lot of progress, but it doesn't happen all the time.
Starting point is 00:52:36 Yeah. Like if you just are trying to run through a room or you like fall into some shit, then yeah, it's not that bad. But yeah, so I'm you know, I'm I'm enjoying it enough so far. And I picked up the the amiibos for it, the squishy amiibo. Oh, I don't have it with me now. But it like one thing that I need to find out more about it. But it's like it says it doesn't just unlock fusion suit. It unlocks fusion mode, which sounds like you're going to have a method.
Starting point is 00:53:02 A kind of super hard mode. Maybe. Yeah. I don't know. Or maybe it's like the same set up as the original fusion, which is like, you know, the the types of enemies you kill, create like feed your suit. Well, that was always the case. I mean, that's basically what's going on now. But I don't know. We'll see what happens.
Starting point is 00:53:17 We'll see what happens. But yeah, so far so good. It's not the Castlevania situation. Good. And a mirror of fate, you mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're in that. What's the one that they called again, a Mercury's team? Yeah, if if Mara fate was called like something else was in Castlevania,
Starting point is 00:53:35 it would have been cool. We've been fine. It would have been fine. The the biggest thing that bums me out, honestly, about it is that, well. One, it could be. Like basically the fact that it's a 3DS game is what sucks. You mean something that even Liam is like, I wish this was on a console. It sucks that it's not a proper switch release.
Starting point is 00:54:01 I mean, me and Liam would have that argument a million times over. But like that argument doesn't need to happen anymore. They have this home console that's also portable. Yeah, so that I can only assume that like this game was in the works for a long time. Yeah, but I'd like to think so. It sucks that it's not a switch release. And because that means it doesn't look as good as it could. Hell, no, it doesn't sound as good as it could.
Starting point is 00:54:22 And I'm I'm and I turned on the 3D again, you know, and I'm like, oh, God, this thing, I fucking forgot, you know, about this bullshit. That's why I'm playing my 2DS. And just turned it off. I'm like, I don't even care. Yeah, like, who cares, right? And I'm like, this is like it's so nothing. And I'm just like, so this is just looking a bit this is looking dated and old
Starting point is 00:54:39 for no real reason, you know, there's a good reason. You have a Metroid that's coming on the switch. You have a Metroid that's coming on the 3DS, could literally serving both your needs, but three rearmed, two pillars, whatever. Give me both types on the same. Give me both options on the same platform. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, that that's the main thing is that it could look and sound
Starting point is 00:55:03 a lot better and it's and it's not that. Also, yeah, so there was that. And then then there's the fucking New York stuff, right? Yeah. So let us look into that at Comic-Con. It was pretty crazy, huge and whatnot. It's probably the most packed, most overflow of people like I've ever been. Like I will never go again.
Starting point is 00:55:31 And I will certainly never go to San Diego, Comic-Con, because that's supposedly worse, but I was just like don't like the infinite pressing of human bodies. I know, actually, I'm fine with it happening because after a while, everyone's just taking the bumps. Everyone just doesn't even say like sorry or anymore because it's pointless because you're taking bumps everywhere. That child to the ground grabbing my dick. I'm like, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:55:56 I'll just take the bumps and I'm riding the wave and I'm just I'll get to my place. Eventually, I'm just angry that it's taking so long. And like that's like and when you're in a fucking intersection, like it's over. Yeah. You might as well just set up a small camp and wait. Now, for me, that was much less of a factor because I'm like, yeah, it's a crowd, but it's to be expected because it's a giant comic con, right? Like I just just like Parf to me as a par for the course.
Starting point is 00:56:27 The main thing, though, is that when you go to a comic on, you have to remember that it's not a video game con or an anime con. It's a comic con. Yeah, which means, you know, there's going to be less of hold it back. Like, yeah, sure. Now we get it. We know there's going to be like less of what I'm looking for, which is like video games in particular, like, oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:56:48 Hey, cool bad guys here. They got the Dragon Ball booth set up. OK, Capcom is over there. That's where Rooster Teeth is. Let's go see the BlazBlue game. Like, you know what I mean? Like I'm basically hovering around those things because that's where a lot of my interest is and I'm checking out other comic things and whatnot.
Starting point is 00:57:01 But like once I take a tour of those like comic booths and like even the really cool like Kota Bukuya booths and toy booths, I do that one. So then I'm good. But like at a games booth, you can go back and watch more footage, other things you didn't see and whatnot. And like that's where I would want to spend most of my time. And there's just not a lot of that variety. So I basically hovered around the same three booths the entire like weekend.
Starting point is 00:57:25 And but then you'll miss the Fangamer booth, which you didn't even know existed. I well, yeah, but I didn't need that in my life because I spent enough money on shirts at Fangamer already because fuck them. They keep buying shirt. They keep making shirts and I keep buying them. Yeah. But yeah, but anyway, so like, no, Tim, so what I spent most of my time doing, like I said, I was over at the Rooster Teeth booth.
Starting point is 00:57:47 I got to play BlazBlue. I also got to play a match. Got to play a cross tag battle. And that game is very early. It is. And they so early, they said that the whole screen is like completely fake. It was it was it was fucking a terrible set around border on that character select. People assumed that it was going to be a seven V seven V seven V seven set up, right?
Starting point is 00:58:17 Where they're like, they thought it was going to be seven characters from everything because there's seven slots on that placeholder. And they're like, no, man, no, but regardless of that, the gameplay itself is still very early. The gameplay itself still feels I said, it's like a hodgepodge, right? Yeah, you said it felt soft and loose in a way you didn't expect. And someone said it like, oh, does it have soggy hits done? And I'm like, that's such a good word.
Starting point is 00:58:41 That's exactly what it is. What is it? When you hit, right, it doesn't feel impactful. It feels very light and it feels almost like it feels like nothing happened, right? Like, you see the person in their hits done animation, but there's very little hit stop. There's very little delay. There's very little impact to it.
Starting point is 00:58:59 The spark, the sound is just very minor. And it's almost like swinging on a boss in an MMO, right? And that's an exaggeration heavily because it's still a fighting game, right? Like, I can't pretend like if it were if they were to not react to it at all. Yeah, you hit the boss and the boss has a hit spark. But it's closer to that through the character. It's closer to that feeling than the other current fighting games out right now. Right.
Starting point is 00:59:28 And it's closer to that than the source material. All right. And that was the biggest and the weirdest part of it to me was that it done with that game. Well, no, it's wait for the final, right? But right now it's like it's a compromise of multiple systems, but it's not actually based on any of them. It's a brand new one.
Starting point is 00:59:48 So there's no walking, for example. Everyone is everyone is running all the time. It's right. You remember that it like I don't remember not doing that. Yeah, I remember walking and it didn't quite. It didn't. It wasn't something that you registered necessarily immediately. But like, it's like, yeah, they have this like there's a whole thing to it
Starting point is 01:00:08 where a lot of people have button, not buttons, but like it's a three button fighter and then you have your tag, you know, button on the on your face, whatever. So like persona characters who would have two attacks and then two persona buttons now have no persona buttons and have like their persona attacks as specials, right? And then the normals become all distributed across their buttons, which, you know, you, you expect changes based on like a universal system where
Starting point is 01:00:39 there's Blazeman characters that have ABCD drive, you know, ABC drive, right? Yeah. But anyway, it just feels weird is all I'm saying. And that I, it's not, not necessarily a good, we're in a, we're in a kind of goofy place where we look at this game or like, all right, everyone just pile into the Ultimax system. The the Ultimax car and it's like, let's go, that's going to be a mishmash. Unfortunately, it was not the, but like, but it's not like they kept
Starting point is 01:01:07 like the void system from under night, you know, or the other unique systems to BlazBlue and such, like they, there's no awakening on the persona characters. It's all just a universal new thing. You know what struck me? And I know we've already said it's early, is that like, just visually, like you get to a stage and it's like nothing, like nothing is as eye popping or as cool looking as anything in a, in a persona arena game. And I don't know, we didn't play enough under night in Bath to like, I, I know
Starting point is 01:01:37 it. No, no, I, I, I, I disagree. I think there was just empty stages. There's nothing going on. Well, the, the stages you're looking at were modified versions of existing BlazBlue and under night stages. So like they are based on stuff, but like, um, all reuse all the time. But, uh, I thought, I thought what the stages seemed to, I just mean, when you're coming off Ultimax, okay.
Starting point is 01:02:01 Under night, to be fair, has a lot of just, it's a street at night time. That's what I'm thinking. Things going on, but that's what those games are. Listen, Matt, they need to reuse the assets for this cross tag battle game because they have less than half of the budget than was a lot of her guilty gears deals. There you go. Uh, speaking of what you saw, that like 75% of Marvel's budget went
Starting point is 01:02:22 to the stupid Ultron statue. Your tweet. Yeah. Yeah. Right. A lot of people seem to agree. Who brought that news out? I forget what the guy's name.
Starting point is 01:02:32 The Liam Robertson on season 64 guy, right? Yeah. Man, that Marvel got made on the fucking cheap. It's astonishing how good it came out. That's true. If that's true, it got made on the dirt. I will take the word of the unseen 64 man at face value. Like I said, it becomes the sound bite, if true, uh, but I'll get there.
Starting point is 01:02:51 Big if true, because, um, the other thing is that with a cross tag battle else, did you play, uh, with cross tag battle, the, um, ruby was in it and, uh, wow, Ruby's voice is really squawking. You're just ignorant. I know you don't hold on, hold on, hold on. Let me make, let me, let me make the statement first. Let me please do. I, why did they have to do the dub version?
Starting point is 01:03:18 Why couldn't they have given us the Japanese Ruby voice that we all wanted? Answer. Cause there is no Japanese words for it was always, always English. We know, we know, we get it. Do that's not the problem. Like we like, sure. Some people are just dumb in saying that because they don't know that Roosterteeth made Ruby and whatever, they think it's just an anime thing.
Starting point is 01:03:41 Yeah. Fine. That doesn't change the part where it really doesn't sound good repeating and squawking and squawking like Athena from KOF 98 over and over again. English or Japanese, it's very annoying to listen to. A lot of arc system works. Fighters have this problem that there are characters that it's a little more annoying in English, but it exists in Japanese that they just talk.
Starting point is 01:04:03 They just talk and talk and talk. Every normal, every move, everything they talk, right? Spider-Man doesn't marvel where he's coming right at you during all of his combos, but like, man, that Ruby voice combined with the overly talkative thing of the, the arc system works game. It's just like, hold on though. Shut your fucking mouth. No, no, hold on.
Starting point is 01:04:23 I have to stop you because I completely disagree with the talking part. Right. The, the, there's a, like when you're talking, I don't have a problem with my armor. I, that, okay. When you're talking, let me, let me, let me, let me make a distinction here. Talking to me is bed man or answer. Yes.
Starting point is 01:04:40 Right. Those are great. Those are fan fucking tastic and I love them because as you're playing answer, he's like, hello, who's this? Oh, this is answer. Yes. What do you need to know? Oh, and he's in the middle of fighting you and he's like, oh, no, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:04:51 I can't help you with that right now. And he's on the phone having a conversation in the middle of the battle. It's fucking great. Right. Yeah. But then bed man is, is like just going off on his whole tangents and whatnot, not while you're fighting him. And that's super cool.
Starting point is 01:05:03 What's annoying is squawking. But like 90% of all characters will squawk and like the 2% you just mentioned, like those are like the outliers. I would, I would call I would call I guess getting comboed as a nonstop series of annoying hit barks. Just make sure, just make sure that the barks that you do have, you can get used to hearing them over and over again for hit barks. I also think that when you're a voice actor or actress and you do
Starting point is 01:05:32 like a narrative based program and then you're asked to do fighting games, it's it's actually probably a much more difficult transition than we realized. You do have to think about quite a bit when doing that. But put it this way, you've played a bunch of MKX and you've played a bunch of Street Fighter at this point. Yeah. No one in those games strikes you as like really annoying voice wise.
Starting point is 01:05:52 The most you might get is like Laura going her like, boom, that's how you start to fight and finish it quickly. And so like doing her things. But take virtual fighter. The voice acting in those games is God awful. It's terrible. Yeah. But in a fight, you'd never know it.
Starting point is 01:06:06 It's very minimal. Right. So that's what it is. It's just you just have to go through it and go, like, is that annoying? If I hear it five times in a row. And if the answer is yes, don't do it. And Ruby doesn't have that going on. So, you know, that's that hope it gets better.
Starting point is 01:06:19 But I really am like also hanging on to hope for Akihiko and or Merkava because I feel like those are not amongst the most popular when you do the all star roster. I know Akihiko is pretty up there and Merkava's way is pretty up there. But I feel like they can get like skipped over. I think in favor of the entire P4 investigation team and P5 characters. I think Akihiko is probably going to get in. We'll see.
Starting point is 01:06:48 Don't know about Merkava. But if I don't have like those or someone interesting from five, there will be a boxer on that roster. I don't know if I have anyone for me in the game. I don't know. Oh, no. Maybe, um, no, I don't know. We'll have to see.
Starting point is 01:07:03 Um, Marvel, Marvel, uh, that was a thing. Yep. Uh, in fact, that was my that was my most of my day. Spent so much of my time over at, uh, at the Marvel booth, playing as Black Panther, Monster Hunter and Sigma. And while they look really good, they do. They look so much better than everyone else. And they have more supers than everyone else.
Starting point is 01:07:27 And like everything about coming out in a week, it's weird. Everything about them, like it doesn't clash. Everything, but everything about them screams. We're from the Marvel that could have been. Yeah, sure. If we add the time and that money in the, but even Sigma, just like, oh, that, that's a really cool looking Sigma. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:45 And his level three is like fucking fantastic. He takes you into the virtual world. Like it's super dude. Like you can see the money. You can see the money all over. It's a very separate budget. See how they look on the character select. It's how goofy that is.
Starting point is 01:07:59 Well, what was weirdest on the character select of this build that was there is just weird that there was two guys here and there was just one little box sticking out the side there. It's kind of strange that, um, wait, that, that's it, right? Like all three of these characters are coming out, but just three. Yeah, that's right. There's no fourth. Well, the later characters will come later.
Starting point is 01:08:16 I bet you they probably wanted for, but they just weren't ready. Yeah. And these ones were black widow or Venom or whoever it was going to know that, you know, other characters weren't ready, but luckily these were ready. They were so ready. Yeah. That they were in the story mode, um, completely ready to ship. Not ready.
Starting point is 01:08:37 Gameplay wise, uh, I quickly summarized what I felt of Black Panther being like Wolverine ish, but it's not completely true. It's in that he is. He's got some non Wolverines. Yeah. He's a hybrid of a lot of things, right? Like he's got, he's a big slash man with his normals. That much is clear.
Starting point is 01:08:55 And he's got a big DP. That's an X 23, like DP and he has a record and he has wreck us. Um, but then you're jumping off the walls and you're, you've got like Strider style wall jumps that have like other options once you're clinging. And that makes for really dirty mix ups when your tag partner is keeping the opponent busy, have a dive kick. He has, uh, not a dive kick, but like a forward moving double slash. That's pretty useful.
Starting point is 01:09:19 Okay. Um, because if he had Wolverine's dive kick, then you'd look at him. He's a, you know, again, like it's, it's, it's a mixture of a lot of things. He, if you want it, you could throw marrow in there. I'm glad he's not just a Wolverine clone because that would have been so sad and boring. Yeah. No, uh, he's got my marrow style off the wall, flying at you moves as well.
Starting point is 01:09:39 If you really want to do it. Um, people said saber tooth, but I don't think that's true. Ever pick marrow. Towering spine. Maybe once. Marrow is cool. Bone meringue. Remember I do bone meringue.
Starting point is 01:09:50 Yeah. Saber tooth. I could see that he's, but he's not saber tooth. Yeah, I've never played saber tooth enough to even know. So Black Panther fills the X man functionality then X, uh, Black Panther is your really fast rush down point character that does cool shit. Um, big slashies. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:07 I only play with them with one match, but I really liked them. Yeah. Uh, I wish his level three was a little bit more than just more slashy. Yeah. But they're all slash, they're all slashies. Uh, Sigma is a big body, heavy type. He's really, I like him a lot. He's, he's like, uh, he's got full screen sort combos, basically.
Starting point is 01:10:28 Okay. Cause the swipes from the sword create scratches like virus scratches that stay on screen. Oh, that's great. And they're, they, you can pretty much hit from like 80% away. So he can do like swipe, swipe, tackle, whatever from full screen, almost like the way ghost rider fucks you up with his chain, you know, from way, way far away. He's slow like Thanos.
Starting point is 01:10:49 So he needs someone fast to help cover him. But, um, yeah, he's a really fun sort of keep away character with all the sword swipes with our, which have a hitbox along the whole thing. He's got a counter. He's got a command grab. He's got like missiles that bounce off the walls. Like he's a scary potential dude that like his biggest weakness is like rushing him down because he's slow.
Starting point is 01:11:10 Um, but visually looks incredible. And like, yeah, you can see, like just go check out the, the end of the trailer where you see his cutscene where he like, you know, like I said, infects you with his virus and does the whole thing. It's, it's really cool to see giant Sigma fighting against like X and zero and all that stuff. Playing that one match against you was really good because you never play these characters before and I didn't.
Starting point is 01:11:30 And so the match was like somewhat exciting because it went down to like the life bars of all our characters and everything. And I was just like, Oh, that was fun. But like, I would like refuse to play you in another match because then you'll know and then you'll destroy me and get a chance. And then, and then the most time I spent was with Monster Hunter and Monster Hunter is I initially walked out and they're going, all right, I'm done with this character.
Starting point is 01:11:56 I try to cut, I tried a couple rounds, nothing happening, big damage off that huge sword. Hell yeah. That's, that's the, that's one life, but I couldn't get anything else going because it's just so slow and hard to press a button in a world where people are triangle jumping on you. Can't even, it is difficult for me to get across to you how you just described playing Monster Hunter for the first time.
Starting point is 01:12:22 Okay. The game. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Sure. Like, like, no, it is that you just described it exactly. And you're so, and I, so basically I was like, the most success I had was hit and run where I'm like, I'm going to do a big armored swing now and then tag out.
Starting point is 01:12:36 Right. Someone cover me. I should mention that's how you play the great sword in life. Yes. Yes. Yes. Right. No, people were saying that about it.
Starting point is 01:12:42 They're like, dude, that's exactly how it feels. And I'm like, cool. That's nice. Right. But then the next day, um, the next day, these two guys came along and shout out to them. And I think it was, uh, uh, Jed, he was one of them and like he came along and just explained to me that, dude, so the role, because I was looking for all her
Starting point is 01:13:02 inputs and she has a role on two kicks and I was like doing like a quarter circle kick down that kick couldn't find it. No, it was two kicks, two kicks does a role. You do that role and interrupt any of your attacks. Of course. And suddenly the whole thing changes and you're like, oh, fuck, I can do that. You're like, I do that giant swing and then before it hits, roll out of the way and then get up close and do something else.
Starting point is 01:13:28 Right. Or I can land it and then roll to cancel and make it safe. Yeah. And you're like, oh my God, now it all makes sense. Throw the arrows up in the air, roll out, do something else, tag the arrows come down to cover you. And what was sick was then you do her slash, uh, special where you do like backwards and open, uh, punches and she does a bunch of dagger cuts the dual
Starting point is 01:13:50 swords and she buffs with this red energy. Yes. It's the slime. What is that? Uh, so, uh, Bracadios was the monster from the third generation. He's the big, he's the big purple dinosaur with the punch fists with the green slime on them. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:04 The slime, uh, goes from green to orange to red and then it explodes. Those are, those daggers are made out of him. So when you, when it's getting buffed, it's becoming enraged. It's this, it's becoming like permanently explosive. Okay. So what you do is when you lend that super or even with it, as long as you do it, she buffs into that red glowing energy. Oh, wait, is she red and glowing?
Starting point is 01:14:31 Yes. Oh, that's, that's something completely different. And then a meter appears like that's demon mode. Okay. So it's like, it's like a devil trigger. Yes. So in it, it's because in that process, she sticks the, the swords in the air and crosses them.
Starting point is 01:14:45 Yes. Okay. So when you do that in monster hunter, you activate that and all of a sudden your meter starts to drain your stamina drains and your roles turn into command dashes. Okay. So, so that's what happens here. Right. Is like, there's a little bit of, I think there's a power and speed increase
Starting point is 01:15:02 slightly in general, very minor, but it's about the dash. But the dash becomes the sickest thing. Like it's a Frank roll dash, a Frank West dash. Like you just, you cross up the guy, it's instant. Everything you do mixes up into and out of it. And she becomes a rush down beast. Yes. When you have that out.
Starting point is 01:15:26 And I couldn't believe the difference between, it was like Nikali unactivated or activated or Phoenix, right? Congrats. You're into monster. I'm playing monster. Like, Oh, wow. But more than any character I've ever heard described in this, like you got to play a fighting game that now explained the appeal of the genre to you.
Starting point is 01:15:47 Okay. Because there's 14 weapons and they're all gimmicky like that. They all have goofy shit. Like having that dash made it so much fun. And people all like, I was doing things like randomly just like, uh, okay, let's fucking let's try this. And it worked. Let me try something else.
Starting point is 01:16:04 And it all worked. And like people in line are just like, Oh, that was dirty. Like that was happening constantly. And like, I love that. So monster hunter has a lot going on just on that system alone and is like, I'm happy to hear that it's faithful to what this character is supposed to be. It's ultra faithful because your description is going to make it easier for me to be like, you had fun with that character, right?
Starting point is 01:16:32 Gateway drug. And the last thing was that like, I was like, Oh man, I hope she'll have a decent poke to deal with like people coming in constantly. And while she's got an arrow that shoots down, that's like decent enough. So does she ever side slap? Oh, yeah. With the, okay. And you do a lot out of it.
Starting point is 01:16:50 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's really useful. Did you try it out? Does it do a lot of stun? Um, you have enough time to do a bunch of shit. Oh, it doesn't stagger you. I don't think.
Starting point is 01:16:59 Did you actually try out monster hunter world? No, I watched it. It's pretty. But either did I add Godzilla shit to buy? I would honestly suggest if you were to sit down and try that out, like honestly so that you don't bounce off of it, sit down with either a list of advice or somebody who knows what they're doing. I did play code vein.
Starting point is 01:17:21 Okay. Tell me about code. Well, that's not, that's not monster. That's a goddamn dark souls anime. Yeah. That's anime souls. It's even less than that. Apparently.
Starting point is 01:17:29 Well, it's closer to Neo in a lot of ways. It is closer to Neo because the attack buttons are on the face. Yeah. And there's only like six different types of weapons or something. Um, and you're running around with your partner, which is also more like dragon's dogma and she's attacking, but she's also healing you. And the whole system is like, if she's alive, she will bring you back to life if you die, but if she's dead, then you're super dead.
Starting point is 01:17:49 Got it. So you have to heal her and then play. So it's like a night's tale or whatever the fucking game. Night's contract sort of. But there's exactly like that. But I saw people die while she was alive. So there's something else to it as well that wasn't evident. What's also nice is you can start it out and it literally says level up
Starting point is 01:18:10 in the stage or fight the boss might be the demo only, but it was a part of the S your, your bonfire options and the bonfire you can drop anywhere. OK, so that was one thing. That's where you throw it down and it becomes your new bonfire. OK, um, here's the thing. Outside of that mechanic. Everything else was just shit you've seen before and done before. I watched some footage and it's like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:38 And that I walked away going, yeah, sure. It's an anime version of the thing I've already done. The armors look like a Souls game. It's they simply plopped anime heads. It's just the heads. Yeah, it's just the heads because everything else is like kind of based. Everything else looks like fantasy already. It's slow. It's there.
Starting point is 01:18:56 It's you know what I mean? You just took fucking sort of online heads and slapped them on their characters and then the little like the girl major or whatever is like saying her like anime lines at you while you're running around. But outside of that basic theme, everything else is just the same. And oh, you're and you're also like modern day destroyed like like environment because there's cars and blown up highways and shit. But does it feel like you're playing Dark Souls and somebody's sitting next
Starting point is 01:19:23 to you going a little bit here a little bit, a little bit because you forget while you're fighting the boss until you roll towards the screen and see the big shiny face and go, oh, yeah, right. I'm playing as like protagonists for a visual novel and fuckboy and the geek. But I like it play it's the combat's fine. Right. There's nothing wrong with it. It's there. You've got your charge up attacks, your fast, your hearts. It's got a blood like drain system that I didn't quite fully get to understand as well.
Starting point is 01:19:53 But at the end of the day, it seemed to just be a very souls like basic thing. And I was a bit bummed that I didn't get anything really new or unique out of it because Neo has things like the stance system that changes up combat right away. Yeah. And it's and you go like, this is more like Ninja Gaiden and all that stuff. But even though like just because something has bonfires, yeah, doesn't mean that it's souls, you know, but but like they all have like unique things to them. You know, the purge has it's like the entire fucking. Yeah, the setting is wildly different.
Starting point is 01:20:27 Bloodborne as well. The way the combat plays out is different. Right. And so far, based on this demo alone, I was just not impressed because I was like, yeah, I've seen and done this already or done very similar things to it. I'm hoping for you that you guys would introduce your own flavor. And outside of anime flavoring, it doesn't seem like there's gameplay. Koei Tecmo is taking their direction. It's now time for from software to make their new mecha game that takes a new direction again.
Starting point is 01:20:55 Yeah. On Miyazaki, do a thing at E3. Meadow Wolf. Um, yes, not the purge, the search. Yeah, the search. Anyway, that's a different thing. The purge surge sounds like a good cross battle. The surge purge is when you piss out all that surge you drank. Yeah. There you go.
Starting point is 01:21:13 That was that was not bad. Also on an off topic, I think there's officially there's a lot of shit called code stuff. Yeah. In the anime world. It's easy. Animes love codes. Code, code, gas, code, vein, code, realize. What about code, recode? Let's code, I make that up.
Starting point is 01:21:34 Sure. That sounds real. Fate unlimited codes. Can we can we relax on the because when I hear this, I'm like, oh, where are the codes at? And that's like Matt trying to get a fist to cuss ready. And it and it and it barely ever like has anything to do with the word code. So let's let's chill out on the card. There's nothing now.
Starting point is 01:21:53 It's saying a word to too long. Now code, there's a word for it. Code Lyoko is an anime. It's called neural inhibition. The neuron associated with that word gets all fucked up. If you say water, exactly. Say woolly a hundred times, loses all meaning and he just fades away. Well, you're losing meaning to me.
Starting point is 01:22:12 As I say, woolly to you, woolly. Oh, Marty, I don't like that. Yeah, I'm not a fan of that. Can of losing meaning or causing things to lose meaning by overusing them? I'm not a fan of my name or myself losing meaning as we repeat it. Don't worry. The trick is that none of us have any meaning at all. There's some words that don't lose meaning, though.
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Starting point is 01:29:03 I just think it would be great. But Matt, do you want to introduce the magic of the Alamo Draft House? I've been to IPEC, which is like the premium theater service where you have a manslave that shows up at your recliner and just gets you whatever you want, whatever you want. And I was like, that's pretty cool. And I've always heard about the Alamo Draft House
Starting point is 01:29:26 and texts and stuff. And I think Willie mentioned on this Friday pass, he's like, we could go see Blade Runner, the Alamo Draft House. Oh, shit, that's true. And I'm like, eh, I'm sure that's cool. I'm sure there is a certain mystique to it. But I thought that's all it was.
Starting point is 01:29:42 Then one, Darlington informs me that it's like, nah, it's the same thing as one of those others. They bring your food. It's where it started. But I didn't know about the bringing your food. Yeah. Everyone tells everyone to shut the fuck up. If you talk and you disrupt, someone can write a note
Starting point is 01:30:00 and tattle tail on you. And you will be asked once like, hey, settle the fuck down. And if you're asked to, and I was asked to see you again, they rip up your ticket and kick you out. We've talked about premier theaters a little bit before. And I've always wanted to go to one. The Alamo Draft House in Texas, I believe, is where it started.
Starting point is 01:30:23 And then they, well, they all went elsewhere. And I pick is also like your second choice. The main thing is that it's not, it's like, it's definitely all about the ability to go, hey, someone's on their phone. Someone's shining a light. Someone's being loud. Someone's being annoying.
Starting point is 01:30:38 Throw them in the fire. Get them the fuck out. No refunds, right? And Patrick, they play a video of Godzilla pulling out Hedora's guts and says, this is you. If you fucking take your cell phone out and we will rip your guts out of your body. I love it.
Starting point is 01:30:56 And it shows Godzilla just like, yeah, what up? And then that's it. Pat, if you wanted to experience a film with the blessing to constantly and aggressively snitch. Yes. The place for you is the Alamo Draft House. That's good, I like that. Always be snitching.
Starting point is 01:31:15 Who cares about the movie? You just go on police alert. So what they, but besides that, they had a couple other genius things. One, when you're ordering, there's a light under the little personal table you have that doesn't disturb anybody around you. But you, that's where you put your menu
Starting point is 01:31:29 to look at your menu. And you can see whatever's going on, right? Two, obviously people are running around and kind of like secretly doing things like ninjas, the whole movie. That's the one thing that's a little distracting is how much people are running around. Some people would be really low
Starting point is 01:31:43 and I barely have noticed. And then some, some servers were like kind of standing up and just doing the whole thing. But it's like a job for short people. But they, but every row and aisle is spaced out such that there's a whole walkway between you and the next seat in front of you. So it's impossible to kick a seat.
Starting point is 01:32:04 It's not a lot of seats. And also you're not allowed in after a certain point. They don't let you in late. Don't let you in. Furthermore, we weren't late. Oh, I see. Furthermore, when you get in, you get into the back of,
Starting point is 01:32:18 from the back of the, where the couches are and you're on couches, by the way, with two drink holders. Like a big arm rest. Two. Everyone gets two drink holders because you have two big arm rests. And you get in from the back,
Starting point is 01:32:31 which means you don't have to pass in front of someone watching. It's the worst. You get to pass behind on the lower elevation so that the people above you don't get disturbed. It's the worst. Super smart, right? Even the way they built the theater
Starting point is 01:32:43 is meant to minimize disruption. Yeah. Also, the other really cool feature, I'm not sure if you remember, but when we went to go see, yeah, Blade Runner 2049. So instead of playing some jackasses, like, hey, it's time play.
Starting point is 01:32:56 And now look at this bullshit. And now look at this. Fucking hate time play. All they play before the movie is stuff relevant to that movie, meaning they'll just be trivia. That's just said, did you know there's a Blade Runner game on the Commodore?
Starting point is 01:33:10 Yes. They'll play straight up funny or die videos featuring Ryan Gosling, because he's in the movie. And that's it. There's no ads to buy shit. It's just like, that's brilliant. That's so much more thematically appropriate.
Starting point is 01:33:26 And I really, really appreciated it, actually. Yeah. I feel like they know they just, they have it down. I really appreciate how you buy your ticket. And it says, just walk in and go straight to your seat. Don't talk to any, but there's no rip your ticket person, nothing like that.
Starting point is 01:33:41 You get in and then they come in and they check it on them, then they walk by. And the way they do the check spot is like a check spot in a comedy club where they go 40 minutes before the movie's over. They come in, put the tray down, leave. You put your card on it and you don't think about it. Come back and then when you get up at the end,
Starting point is 01:33:56 sign and go. You know, like super legit. It was weird to me because Liana bought the tickets online and then I kept, we kept going like, when are we gonna get the tickets checked? Yeah. And they never did.
Starting point is 01:34:07 And I was like, whoa, that's cool. I actually felt like we were stealing. Well, the guy that came up to explain it the first time did check. Oh, then, but later in the preamble to get inside, which is still weird to me. No, so I can't wait for us to have a like premier theater experience up here because
Starting point is 01:34:23 We don't have one. I know, but I feel like I'd go all the time, especially cause the price wasn't that crazy either. I was expecting some ridiculous like $50 tickets or something. And it was like, nah, dude, the tickets are kind of normal. They're high for American prices. But to us, they were low for us.
Starting point is 01:34:40 Yeah. Cause to us in Canada, tickets are already 20 bucks. Yeah, like 22, depending on what format. Normal movie tickets, right? So then when they're like, yeah, 20 bucks, we're like, oh, cool. Okay. So it's all about the food then, I guess, you know?
Starting point is 01:34:55 And the food wasn't even that high. And I pick it's higher, but like it's a little more high end, not to throw shade on the Alamo draft to us, but it's like, it's giant recliners. And it's like a blanket. You mean the I pick? I pick. Sorry. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:08 Yeah. Yes. The chairs, it's more expensive. Yeah. The seats at the I pick looked way fancier. That's not much is certain, but just. This will also lead into my downfall because with all this food.
Starting point is 01:35:21 Yeah. I don't know why, but I'm just like, we saw this movie. Well, you know why you know, no, I don't know. Because Crime Tina ordered up a bottle of wine. Which I really wanted. And.
Starting point is 01:35:33 And scene, Blade Runner, 2049 a three hour movie at 1115 PM with a bottle of wine, bottle of red wine resulted in me falling asleep for a good 10 minutes in the middle of Blade Runner. Well, that's not what I expected. Both of them. I was like, I had to go to the bathroom.
Starting point is 01:35:52 You fuck. No, no. They both passed out, unfortunately. And I remember because when we were not to any fault of the movie, well, partially because the soundtrack is so fucking soothing. It's some soothing, comfy shit. Literally.
Starting point is 01:36:08 And there's so little dialogue and so little action. Jeez, grandpa. You're falling asleep at theaters now. After a whole bottle of wine. Yeah, I was I was on the edge of my seat for a lot of it. And I remember you weren't falling asleep. I was not. I was wide awake.
Starting point is 01:36:25 And I remember there was a moment where I literally like edged of my seat like gasped like, oh, like this is doing stuff. I've been tweeting about it all weekend. I've seen it. Because I can't stop thinking about it because I just really, really enjoyed it. And I went in with such low expectations
Starting point is 01:36:46 because one, of course, tons of modern classic. Tons of modern sequels to old classics right now, unnecessary, why bother, right? Total Recall came and went. Oh boy, did it. Robocop came and went. Admittedly was more entertaining than I expected. That one body horror scene is fantastic.
Starting point is 01:37:06 There's one part in Robocop that is super amazing. It's a nightmare. And it's strong on its own. And Michael Keen is good in it, too. But yeah, but for the most part, you know, modern remakes, whatever, right? When you tell me this is directed by the director of Arrival, which was also similarly very slow paced,
Starting point is 01:37:26 zero action and like very understated. I would. Yeah, not zero action. There's action, but it's not over the top action. It's really understated action. There's short action sequences as well. Yeah, I mean, there's a climactic, like there's a fight scene of just like punches and chokes.
Starting point is 01:37:45 You know what I mean? I'm going to get you. And that's all you're doing. There's no, we don't have to go fancy with it. We're just, yeah, I'm just stopping you. It's a nice mundane action scene. And it's tense because you're like, fuck. It's kind of reveling in its mundane.
Starting point is 01:37:59 That's all it is. Unlike the ending of, say, police not. Sure, which does not. And, you know, it does all the things you'd expect that link it to the original. It's got the similar soundtrack. It's got the similar shots, the similar like setting that like, you know, really, really takes its time
Starting point is 01:38:17 to like show you the world establishing shots. You see life happening. You see how the Blade Runner universe. There's like whole sequences that are devoid of dialogue. Just trying to show you the world. And, yeah, and it does it really nicely because that's the strongest part of the original is the setting.
Starting point is 01:38:36 Now, it's no secret that I'm not a huge fan of the original. I'm one of the people that didn't enjoy it outside of the really awesome setting. An idea. I am very much in the same exact boat as you. Now, I know that the director's cut apparently is better. I appreciate it, but I don't particularly like it. There you go.
Starting point is 01:38:54 There's the cut. There's the director's cut. And there's the final cut. OK, so there's multiple cuts. And I know for a fact that a Ridley Scott movie cut the right way can make or break. Because we always talk about Kingdom of Heaven. Yes, like absolutely.
Starting point is 01:39:12 The difference between a two and an eight. Yeah. Out of five. But Blade Runner 2049, which is what we're discussing here, is I just loved it. I loved it. And I really think it's worth checking out. It's not doing well in the box office.
Starting point is 01:39:30 Just as a but it's also been for one weekend. Just as a point of curiosity. 2049 is what compared to the original? 30 years later. 30? 30 or 20. Yeah, 30 years. OK.
Starting point is 01:39:42 30 years. So it's a couple decades. Now, yes, because the original was 2019. The other thing was I don't think you have to see the original to see the sequel. I can't see that. The original doesn't have a huge amount of because there's a character.
Starting point is 01:40:01 No, no, no, no, no, there's there's callbacks. Make no mistake. There's callbacks in there. But they're less effective. I don't think you haven't seen the first one. Yeah, you don't have to to enjoy it. You you lose a bit of garnish, but it's not the way you reacted with near, for example.
Starting point is 01:40:20 Yes, right, which is funny, because on the surface, there are incredibly similar situations in which they're about robots and shit. But I'm putting that out there because I do feel that's the case. I'm not saying don't do it. If you have the ability to go in with more knowledge, do so. But if you're thinking about it and from a point of view of like, I don't know, I'm lazy and I
Starting point is 01:40:42 don't want to bother with the original or whatever the case is, there is enough in 2049 to be fully enjoyable without catching the callbacks because they like you get up to date on things for. They tell you what this is and who that is and what that was about for for near, like in particular, there's like a couple moments of like abject confusion and at least one like gut punch that you lose.
Starting point is 01:41:08 Sure, you just lose. Yeah, here you get like, again, you get to see like, OK, cool. This is probably referencing something back then or whatnot. But anytime you go like, oh, well, what was that about the answer? You do get an answer to those moments. It's like a minute later. What you don't get answers to is to is like the more interesting philosophical questions, you know, but.
Starting point is 01:41:28 Hey, what's the deal with replicants? Yeah, yeah. And I love are they people? Yeah, and I love how it like it steamrolls past that whole that's that thing and do I just dream of electric sheep? All right, the basic introduction of human like behavior in robots. You steamroll past that. You're like, dude, we're way beyond that bullshit.
Starting point is 01:41:49 Get your touring test out of here. Yeah, we're going we're going to like level four. Yeah, with these questions, we're going, you know what I mean? Like we're we're on a level where we've already accepted most of the the the idea that these things are basically life. Yeah. Now what? It's like that questions quaint. What about the the the unfortunate realities of the extrapolation of that question?
Starting point is 01:42:13 And yeah, and and and it really takes the time to explore these themes. And I and I think it's it's like, holy shit, better than the original by such a huge margin. What's interesting, though, is that you say you don't like the original. I'm kind of ambivalent. I've seen a good amount of people that I follow on Twitter say the exact opposite. They like the first one and they go, this one completely misses the mark. Well, it's divisive.
Starting point is 01:42:35 It's it's very divisive. I don't know why it's going to be that way because they're different. Like I hear that they are different types of movies. I mean, they're similar, but they're it does ask different questions. One thing I'll say that, like, I kind of prefer in the original. But this is more of an aesthetic choice is that I when I think of the original, close my eyes, it is dark and it's raining the entire time. It is. And I kind of miss that there's a raining scene towards the later.
Starting point is 01:43:01 But I kind of feel 24 nine is like arid and dry and empty. So one of the things that is a cool, like, oh, if you saw the original, you enjoy this is all those nighttime establishing shots of the city when they're flying over. You get daytime versions. Because it's easy to mask the size of a world when it's dark. So you get to see things like they go, oh, cool. That's similar to how that shot was, but that's about it, right?
Starting point is 01:43:24 But then there's more for you there. Anyway, Harrison Ford. That, by the way, that's where I fell asleep. Yeah. After he lurches in, I started. But but but I'm Harrison Ford is using his sleep powers. But I didn't like his performance in the original. I thought he was one of the weekends. And I think this is much better, much stronger.
Starting point is 01:43:46 I like Ryan Gosling in this more than I liked Harrison Ford in either role. You would like Ryan Gosling in anything more than Harrison Ford in anything because Ryan Gosling is not amazing and love Robin Wright is fantastic. To be fair, though, Ryan Gosling, like, if you played sound bits and I close my eyes and you played them from drive this, only God forgives. I really couldn't tell the difference. He does. He likes that. He does like that.
Starting point is 01:44:12 He does as well. It's just that he doesn't really have, like, you know, much variation. Uh, I will say that is a leto or leto. Jared, who cares? Joker, Jared, Jared, Jared's his way into the movie. Oh, he's in there. And he's in there for like two scenes. He's not he's not there for much, but Jared, Jared's it.
Starting point is 01:44:30 And go method for this one. I don't probably did. Because I think is this. I haven't seen a ton of Jared little movies, like. Have you listened to a lot of his band? No, 30 Seconds to Mars. I'm trying to think. Have I ever seen one?
Starting point is 01:44:48 You probably have. You never bothered to see Suicide Squad. No, and I know and I didn't see the the movie about the guy who shot Lenin. There is a movie is he was with and with Matthew McConaughey. But I doubt you saw that. Yeah, I don't buy might have. He's also in Alexander, the one. No, I might have I might have never seen one.
Starting point is 01:45:06 OK, I might have never seen. So all you know about him is that he was a massive jackass when filming Suicide Squad. Well, anyway, he's the only thing in this movie that you might you might go like, all right, dude, you know, I don't know. I thought he was fine. But it was. But that's something it's like. But it's like it's clearly like trying to do a thing.
Starting point is 01:45:21 But it was not offensive. It was like, all right, you're attempting something here. And Batista showing up to Batista. He was actually really, really good. It's for the short. It didn't. But it didn't. It didn't break my immersion, because I was like still like shit. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:35 But like, no, it made him look like crap. But with the with Jared, I was able to like, I was like, like, yeah, I was like, I'm still in. I'm still in. I also really like the chick that played his girlfriend, Rangos and his girlfriend. Yes, I forget her name. I see something. But she's very cute.
Starting point is 01:45:51 So and without any spoilers whatsoever, I don't even want to hint at it. But like, there was a moment that like, who, boy, it. It got you. It gets me. I know which party, man, because you want to talk like when you're talking about AI and you're talking about robots and replicants, all that, all that. You're getting into uncanny valleys. All right. But there's different kinds of uncanny valleys
Starting point is 01:46:16 that you might not be aware of. Yeah. And so the one that you're thinking about right off the bat is visually that looks like a person, but so close that it's uncomfortable. Think of that one. The others, other uncanny valleys that I've never been exposed to that I thought I was exposed to for the first time in this. And I like my heart skipped a beat because I was like freaking out. That's the future, man. Get in it.
Starting point is 01:46:41 Right. It was just the most like it was a really incredibly uncomfortable feeling. And the fact that I felt that unique feeling is part of what I like so much about this, too. So I'm just, you know, I mean, that's about it. Like tons of praise and glowing reviews from me. I really hope people go to see it because, yeah, it's definitely modern audience poison because it's slow. It's meandering. It's subtle. It's not over the top. Good movie.
Starting point is 01:47:04 And it's two hours a cult thing that never made a lot of money. Right. And it's two hours and 45 minutes long. This is audience kryptonite. This is 2017 audience kryptonite. And make no mistakes about it. Fury Road is what was big and huge because it was a big, explosive, fun movie that people love nowadays. And like, and even then it was too slow for some people.
Starting point is 01:47:27 Sure. But like, in addition to being like a cool like addition to the Mad Max world, it was like full of all the things people love. High octane, you know, and the fact that there's few words and, you know, and whatnot was just like, who cares? Look at that big explosion. And this is not that. But this is there's not a lot of dialogue and also nothing's happening. How many how many shooting gunfights, big explosion car chases are there?
Starting point is 01:47:52 Had four. Oh, I'd say less than that. I'd say like two. Is the biggest gunfight in that smaller than the big gunfight? There are more. It's not. There are more tense conversations than tense gunfights. Yeah. Conversations are the real battles.
Starting point is 01:48:09 Yeah, lots of dudes staring at each other going. Lots of that. Yeah. Lots of thinking about or or or robot emotions. Oh, man. What do you do with those? You ignore them because they're not real and they don't matter. You're going to like this movie. You're going to like this movie so much.
Starting point is 01:48:29 So, yeah. Oh, that's good. I guess there's. Like we can talk about bread and butter bread and butter. It's a nice place in New York to eat. Go eat it. Yeah, bread and bread and butter is like a deli slash restaurant slash buffet. And it was just like if you are literally hungry for anything, they'll have it.
Starting point is 01:48:55 And there was multiple locations and it was amazing. And yeah, I don't know. I mean, they were good. Yeah, we're good. I picked up a Kishatria. I picked up a SNES mini. I picked up Mabel's and Splatoon. Our book and I had a good time.
Starting point is 01:49:09 Thanks, New York. I got. Thank you, Brooklyn. Thank you, Brooklyn. Brooklyn, Brooklyn. You have to yell Brooklyn, right? That's the rule. We're Brooklyn. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:18 I thank you to the pizza place for birdies for not letting us in because they had an hour and a half wait to get in because it's supposedly the best pizza in the city. Really good time with everyone, though, at the. Yeah, I know. The fan meet up with Brooklyn Barcade was real legit. We packed it out and we really thought we'd have space and a ton of people came and then we realized, oh, yeah, it's because we've never really done New York.
Starting point is 01:49:39 New York. So that makes sense. Everyone was super chill. And yeah, we, you know, we had time to have a little chat with everybody and do our thing, played a couple of games. Good times. So tired. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:49:53 You were, you were really baby boy was tuckered out by the end. Because the problem is that during a fan meet up, you don't, you're not really walking around the con for hours and you're like your feet are killing you. And then I'm like, guess what? You're going to have to stay like, stay standing for three hours and not sit down. And then we take out the, it's the joke that we made at Eva, where we were so tired doing the line because we're standing up for three hours after Max's panel and then we're like, can we just sit down in these chairs?
Starting point is 01:50:21 I'm like, no, I don't like that visual because that's just like, I just picture someone, we're really excited wanting to get an autograph or whatever, just to say hi and they're coming up to you and me. Like we're just two Marlon Brownos going, come over here. No, that's what they want, man. I don't want to give that to them, though. Because I would be disappointed if I went up to Arnold Schwarzenegger or something, he was just like, oh, yeah, but he probably stands up more than
Starting point is 01:50:48 I do. Yeah, probably. You need a little podium for your gut. Oh, yeah, you're super right. Yeah, no, we're lazy. Couldn't do it. Our whole lives are lazy. I did appreciate though the soundtrack changing from Capital City in Manhattan over to Jay-Z.
Starting point is 01:51:03 Oh, then over to Metallica. It was nice. How was your week, Pat? Played a bunch of Cuphead. I mean, that, that said itself, nothing new. One thing to add about Mad Max, I got a lot farther in it. Boy, the voice list on that game is low. Like they repeat their voice actors.
Starting point is 01:51:21 Yuri Lowenthal and Liam O'Brien play like everybody, almost everyone in the entire game. Well, that's the one one of brothers. So the Warner Brothers Real House is literally like Liam O'Brien for everything. It's it's really nuts. And like they go out, they go out of their way to have certain character, certain important characters not talk to each other so that you don't have a fucking Yuri Lowenthal talking to himself. Because Yuri Lowenthal plays the first big stronghold leader that you
Starting point is 01:51:50 meet, and he also plays the primary antagonist. And those two characters just somehow never interact because he's playing the same exact voice for both. You know, it's really confusing. There's like this big boss guy. And when you get his profile, whatever he says, it says he's the brother or the cousin of Morton Joe. No, of Morton Joe's.
Starting point is 01:52:11 Well, I guess it would be since says his father, but of like the big guy that's in Fury Road, like I always forget his name, but like they're related. Yeah, the Nathan Jones, the actor, but like the big huge like Australian dude or whatever he's from. He's also in like the protector and all that. And I'm like, OK, so when does this take place before or after Fury Road? It takes place immediately before. Immediately because the final like the final look, the final like
Starting point is 01:52:37 customizable look that you get for Max is exactly how he looks in the first 10 years, the long hair and the like goggles and the bandana. OK, OK, I wasn't sure how long does it take you? And I'm it's really long. OK, you really pissed me off. It's like how long it took to unlock the jacket with the shoulder pad. It takes so long. It takes like 10 hours. Yeah, but it's what you want for the video.
Starting point is 01:53:00 You want because it's the fucking look, you know, and it's not the final look. In fact, the final look that has the most like benefits to your character is like a flak jacket, but the single shoulder pad is what fucking can't you are ripped off. So that's what you want. Did that. Played Cuphead. Cuphead's great. As for new games, no, nothing much. The only thing I did of interest is I took the lovely lady up to Mount Royal.
Starting point is 01:53:22 Kind of because you suggested because you mentioned it a little while ago, Willie Tams or the look up the look out. Yeah, all the way to the top and all the way across. And two things to note about taking a lady up to Mount Royal. One. Boy, the base of that mountain reeks of weed. Just an ever present cloud and 10 steps into the process. A big guy walked up and said, Hey, you guys need weed.
Starting point is 01:53:50 No, we're good. And the other thing is that boy climbing a mountain with your S.O. is a lot more romantic if you're not in the out of shape piece of shit. Oh, did you? Oh, so you climbed it? Oh, yeah. From the base up. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:06 So you did the pathway. Yeah. OK, what time was it? It was 30. OK, OK, because around six thirty. When the sun starts to go down, I've talked about it a couple of times, but that's when the random battles start occurring. All the random battles.
Starting point is 01:54:25 Yeah, because that pathway then becomes where the hobos live at night. Because the the the barrels are burning and you can see the XP. The during the trip, the sun was like starting to go down. By the time we left, like to go downtown to get dinner, then the sun had finally gone down. So we dodged because you're covered in treetops, so it's pitch black. So you better have your knife out. Fantastic. Nice old day.
Starting point is 01:54:49 That's pretty much it. There you go. Didn't see any raccoons. Weirdly enough, you mentioned that they were attacking everyone everywhere. Beavers, Beaver Lake. Yes, even took some photos. Beaver Lake, no raccoons. Didn't see the raccoons. No, what we did see was you were there at daytime.
Starting point is 01:55:03 Yes, I mean that. That's why we did see something that warmed my heart, which was what appeared to be a 99 year old man, some ancient old man being pushed along by his family with a giant, like a full loaf of fucking bread. Just grumpily like like he hated it, throwing full like slices of bread at seagulls. Angrily.
Starting point is 01:55:26 Like like underhand. Yeah. But like just and the seagulls then causing a massive problem for everyone else there. Yeah, those people are jerks. I love it. I love those people. And his family's all like it's like the whole family,
Starting point is 01:55:42 like the like his kids or, you know, in the grant, like, yeah. If you live by the. I want to be that guy. If you live by the docks, go nuts, have fun. But if you're doing this in the middle of fucking the park and right next to be right next to the house where people live, you're being an asshole. Stop sprinkling fucking bread so that the. I don't even think you're supposed to give birds bread anymore.
Starting point is 01:56:08 I think it's like a banned thing. I don't know, but it's super annoying. Like they can't actually digest it and they explode later. Just because that's why he's doing it. Maybe. Like, like, you know, it's like there was one the one person in a mile building that would walk out front and just throw seeds right out of the door at the right at the door.
Starting point is 01:56:27 Basically, it was four steps from the door and just like fucking crowd and shit and piss and fucking do all that, you know, awesome. And it was just like just because of your stupid bullshit, we all have to suffer. Yeah. And if you weren't here, we wouldn't be dealing with it. Hey, let me ask you guys. You guys ever been in a tall place with your lady person and you look over a cliff and you're like, man.
Starting point is 01:56:53 Just. There's no insurance money, Pat. There's no you're not married. There's no common law. There's nothing to gain. Yeah, but no, OK, no, me either. OK, all right. OK, moving on. Yep.
Starting point is 01:57:09 How about that news? But is there any news? I don't know. There's a lot of news. Oh, what was there? There was any news? But there's a couple of news. There's a couple of news. What's the news? We can talk about unruly heroes.
Starting point is 01:57:32 Oh, yeah, that's that's news. I sent you. I mean, I was looking at you because you had news that you said I know, I wanted to figure out, see what you do, see how you react. Oh, put me put me under the microphone. You're already under a microphone every day, almost. Yeah, under the microscope. Unruly heroes. We missed this. Did we miss this?
Starting point is 01:57:52 Because it seems like something we would not miss. Well, this announcement was made in June. Yeah. So I guess we did. But have you seen this? I have not. It is a four player journey to the West adventure game. Co-op action game made by, as I'm sure you can tell, or a members of Rayman Origins.
Starting point is 01:58:12 Oh, you're looking at that in depth. I thought OK. So I thought it was Ori until I saw the stretching on the big guy. And then, yes, no, that's clearly Ubi art. Is it Ubi art? Well, it's it's a similar engine, because I don't know if this is not a Ubi soft game, so I don't know if it would be on Ubi art. I don't care. I want it.
Starting point is 01:58:29 Yeah. And it zooms out so far that you can't even appreciate how nice the art is. But does it zoom out when you zoom in? I think when you're two players, it zooms in. It does. And there's moments where it gets way closer. But so much of this game is so pretty and so zoomed out that you're like, fuck, I want to see it closer all the time. Are we in a 2D renaissance?
Starting point is 01:58:45 Sort of, maybe. Easily. Especially how because 2D is more affordable to make a lot of the time with if you're doing like a smaller game, it's expensive as fuck if you're doing a full on crazy indie blowout and not a non indie blowout like a triple A blowout. That shit. Oh, that's cool.
Starting point is 01:59:01 You should be able to skip it. Oh, man. You do not want to skip that. So, uh, blah, I can't wait to not fight that. I jumbled out of thought because I was watching the video. But what I'm trying to say is things like fighting games become too expensive to make if they're not 3D these days. Right.
Starting point is 01:59:19 But things that are 2D and small little steam games are absolutely creating a 2D renaissance. But that looked like more expensive than any 2D fighting game. Like that's what's weird to me. That boss. It did. But but this is sort of like a it's totally an indie game. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:36 No, I know. I know by Indie Studio Magic Design. And this game is called Unruly Heroes. The name is not great to be fair. There's several. Kenny likes it. Z heroes. I think there's like last.
Starting point is 01:59:48 Oh, yeah, I bet Kenny does like it. Yeah. So Unruly Heroes, I just it's kind of. I can see the name of the stream now. It's it's coming out 2018. Start of 2018 even because that looks that will pretty like advanced. Hey, for something we never heard of off topic,
Starting point is 02:00:07 which do you guys prefer Cuphead or Mugman? Mugman. Mugman. Cuphead. All right. Cuphead's the asshole. But Mugman is right. OK, Mugman is correct.
Starting point is 02:00:20 So here's the deal about Mugman that freaks me out. He drinks himself in the beginning of the stage. He fucking takes his it's the. Well, I mean, I don't I think like they're just the receptacle. They're not the fluid. The fluid is not them. I don't know, man. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:00:36 Yeah, I think they're just a receptacle. That's what I said of what? Whatever liquid they want to partake in water, tea, coffee, soda, syrup, it's their brains, man. I think it's empty. They're senior cups with bodies. Yeah, they're done. The fluid that you add to the cup is variable.
Starting point is 02:00:55 Like it's not that much of them drinking water out of your like the palms of your hand, really. Yeah, I guess. If you OK, oh, you know what? Yeah. Is the is there's a problem. You had a sick do is that it was just a cup shake. Is the straw not part of their body?
Starting point is 02:01:11 I don't know about that. You can't say for sure. That's a little I'm inclined. It's hard to say because you on the one hand, you're like, well, maybe it's fashion because their pants are a certain color, right? Red and blue and blue, but then their noses are also their colors, so you don't know for sure.
Starting point is 02:01:26 Yes, I don't want to make a ruling on this. It's that middle mushy gray area. Yeah. But Mugman was right and Cuphead was the asshole, for sure. Oh, yeah, I'm going to do it. Fuck you, Cuphead. So anyway, why would you think you could beat the devil? And how fucking stupid?
Starting point is 02:01:49 Well, I mean, he was doing great up until then. But yeah, but not with the house against you. Well, Matt, it's called addiction. And then it's a serious problem. You know what? That's fine. Then their grandpa's solution is, hey, guess what? You can get out of your debts by killing the devil. I do when the grandpa was like, I found a way and I'm like,
Starting point is 02:02:07 please say, just kill him. Please say, just kill me. He's like, you could just kill that asshole. You're getting powerful. And I was like, you're getting so strong. You just murder the devil. Matt, what has never stopped sneaking and never stopped sneaking is the new Metal Gear Solid parody game
Starting point is 02:02:23 that's 3D overhead and made by the one man team that made dust, Elysian. Is he doing it by himself again? Yes. This is the sensical follow up to dust. Yeah. Yeah. When you see dust, you think of Metal Gear Solid. He said he wanted to do something completely different.
Starting point is 02:02:41 We can't hear it, but there's a snake eater parody song in this trailer. Yeah, there is. And and vice president helicopter way to who is a helicopter completely and utterly nail the style of MGS one. Yeah, the game's a little more overhead. Yeah, it zooms out a bit further. And and the thing is, is that like in in that zoom out and with those like bullet queues and lighting trails,
Starting point is 02:03:05 it becomes a little bit more Xbox Live arcadey. Yeah, and I'm not a fan of the Xbox Live arcadiness. But whenever it zooms in, it's exactly what you want. It's it's a little bit of like the my a little bit of my issue with Fury as well, where it just it looks like those games from, you know, the wolf of the battlefield and and the other fucking right at the end of the day, it is made by one guy. It is. And I, you know, it's cool that they're making fun of Metal Gear.
Starting point is 02:03:34 That looks funny. I hope the gameplay is good, too. Yeah, it looks cool. I got to know where just like it's coming out but like before the end of the year, I would really like it. If this guy's name is Dean, I guess. No, I think that's just I would really like it. If this guy learned how to have other people on his team
Starting point is 02:03:54 so he doesn't work himself to death. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, because I really like the name. Never stop sneaking is pretty strong. Yeah. Good strong. And NSS. So it was about to happen. I would I do. And what I also want to see is more parodies of early PS1 and 64 games. There there is like dusk is one and there is.
Starting point is 02:04:18 But like that's the thing that I'm glad this is like at least when when it comes to the game play, I'm glad it's a bit different than MGS because when you just rely on being a parody, sometimes it's like that's all you are. And when you're doing 3D, you're it's a big commitment. Yeah, it is. It is. So maybe you don't want to put all your eggs in the one nostalgia basket or whatever. And yeah, there was a couple of announcements.
Starting point is 02:04:41 There was, of course, the news that one Capcom senior product manager, Matt Dahlgren, was leaving Capcom after a decade. Oh, man. He's the guy that was always seen on the cross assault hosting and he was at live at Ed Evo and stuff. Very nice guy. Um, doesn't seem to have a huge sense of humor for dumb antics with Street Fighter, maybe, maybe his his his his humor level of like
Starting point is 02:05:13 he takes his games very very seriously. Second Matt Dahlgren, Matt. And oh, yeah, OK. All right. And Pat, you'll see that one. As I recognize that name. One of the marketing campaigns he spearheaded was for Residential Five. Very, very curious. So like, are you the guy that was like, you know what? Big fucking gold chain around Africa.
Starting point is 02:05:37 That's what the kids like. You know, I think he's the kind of guy that looks at the Street Fighter brand and says, these are heroes that fight for something. Have a certain amount of dignity, right? And they're not heroes that fight for nothing. They don't know why would they do such a thing? That's silly. That's a silly thing for them to do.
Starting point is 02:05:56 They all have a purpose and it's very clear, straightforward, with no antics. So I don't know about this. This concept of fighting for nothing. That's silly to me. But anyway, Matt, and whatever you pursue. Well, it was to my surprise, this was I didn't know this, but Matt Dahlgren, who had been hearing about for years, is apparently the guy that basically created the California smash scene.
Starting point is 02:06:23 He was known as Matt Deasy. He was a to that was like he coined a lot of terms and did a whole bunch of like work and outreach early on in two thousand and two on the smashboard. That would explain why he's such. And so he's so into the tournament scene more or less. And that would explain why so much of Capcom's focus became about tournament life.
Starting point is 02:06:47 Yeah. In addition to picking up a combo fiend, Matt Dahlgren was all he started in that life and came from it. So I get it now. God bless that Wikipedia article called him Matt Deasy. Yep, that was his smash name. OK, yeah, smash names getting cooler every year. Fine, fine name. That's like what you called Ed Boone and John Tobias and a fighter.
Starting point is 02:07:12 Peter, Ed Beasy, Ed Beasy and John, Johnny Tubbs, Johnny Tubbs and Ed Beasy. Johnny Tubbs is great. So they're the Capcom. They also they were at the Comic Con and they had their announcements. One of them was Street Fighter Five Arcade Edition. I. OK, so I have a discord with people from 14 right and hang out friends like I had to explain this to someone immediately after its announcement because like everyone of the way
Starting point is 02:07:43 Capcom has done business in the last decade for everyone immediately is panic. Right. Like I like. Oh, great. I'm going to wait for the next one where I get all the shit for free. And I went, you do. Yeah, you do. God damn it. And I mean, I mean, to be fair, like they're it's weird because on the one hand, like they could message it louder. But on the other hand, it is everywhere that announces it. It also immediately says this is a free update.
Starting point is 02:08:12 Because it's been a long time confusing with this. And like their statement about because like the moment they announced it, like the statement where they had the thing saying, once you buy Street Fighter Five, you'll never have to deal with deal with other versions of the game. Or you won't have to buy other versions of the game is what they said. You immediately grab that and go, what the fuck, guys? And it's like, no, no, no.
Starting point is 02:08:30 So every once in a while, a disk will compile things. I wonder how this is going to work in digital download, because like I might just buy this on Steam to replace my old one, if that's available. Well, here's what's going to happen. And here's what's weird is that this is so Street Fighter Five Arcade Edition is a free update. So if you have the original, you just download it and you get all the shit that it gets. If you buy it on a disk, then you have it all at the disk,
Starting point is 02:08:58 except the characters are still codes. And so the disk will come with codes for the characters. And I guess that's the track. If you currently have SF5, like you'll get all the functional updates and the new V triggers and all that stuff. But the new characters that you still buy. Yes. And including that they're free. But they're they're they're just the characters are free when you buy the disk.
Starting point is 02:09:21 No, I'm just talking if you already own SF5. Yes, yes, yes, you will still have to get all those exactly. And it has the long awaited arcade mode, which it seems like they're super overcompensating. Yeah, but it's still really cool. It's crazy how much they're overcompensating for the lack of an arcade mode. Too late. It had to have shipped with this. I'm just describing what I know, but it's frustrating
Starting point is 02:09:44 because if they had shipped with this, that would have been great. If they had shipped with this, there would be a lot. There would be a lot less troubles. But here's what the arcade mode is. It's like any it's like unlike any we've seen before. You first off choose your path, whether you want that to be Street Fighter one, two, three, four or five. Yeah. And you fight the characters associated with alpha.
Starting point is 02:10:03 No, it's alpha alpha. You're right. You're right. Or zero. And then like you go down that path of enemies and fight them. And then at the end, you get a unique ending for that mode, for that character. And thank God they're not having Bengus. Yeah, they're going to be in game cut scenes. No, they're using Udon to do the end. Bengus, Bengus is a good artist as long as he has time.
Starting point is 02:10:30 He was an incredible artist as long as he has time. But so what's happening here is there's over one hundred endings in total. There's your arcade mode, guys, because yeah, they're they're fucking doing it. They're so sorry. They would have been better served by shitting out an average arcade mode within two weeks of launch, I think. But also like for people that are all really like hate the fact there's an arcade mode, it's better to overcompensate than under.
Starting point is 02:10:58 I suppose, especially if this is the attempt at a relaunch. An arcade edition is a fantastic name for this. Yeah, I was confused because there is no actual arcade edition. It just ain't arcade because they're having. Yes, there's no cabinet. Why we know is because Street Fighter Four had a arcade edition, which meant the cabinet was coming out. Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 02:11:20 Um, yeah. And I mean, like, hey, KOF 12 fucking, you know, didn't have their arcade mode and made need to deal with survival when I was stupid. Yeah. So, um, yeah, good on them. That's cool. V triggers and such. We'll wait to see what that is.
Starting point is 02:11:35 And what looks cool already is some of the stuff we're seeing from the screenshots include, uh, Nadeshko being temporarily playable by Armica as her new V trigger, and she's got a chair shot. We don't know exactly what what the details are. But like, I like reuse, reuse is like this giant punch that he punches in the Cali with in the store. Is it confirmed to be that I because people are speculating. That's what it is.
Starting point is 02:11:58 Watch the Vesper arcade video where he's like, I'm pretty sure it's everyone is speculating. That's what it is. And the kanji translates on the select screen into unmovable force. Yeah. So it could be the Nikali killing punch, but we don't know. But yeah, that's cool, man. That's dope.
Starting point is 02:12:15 So that's, that's what they're up to. Uh, also there is, um, hints at a new system in Dragon Ball fighters. I would say it's more than hints. There's a new system. We just don't know what the fuck it is. We have an idea, but we don't know where it's going to go from here. So in Dragon Ball fighters, there's a new build with, uh, Yamcha, this bill, wasn't it?
Starting point is 02:12:37 This was not the bill that comic on exactly. So that's why I didn't really go line up to play. Um, but what we see is at the bottom of the screen, if, uh, if you take a look, you'll be able to see that there's now seven Dragon Balls that are like kind of showing up and you can basically, um, when you do a combo, depending on whether it's 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 or 60 or 70 hits, you'll get a one star through seven star Dragon Ball. Whoever does it, like it appears it's shared for both.
Starting point is 02:13:11 Right. And what it seems like is when you, uh, whoever gets to all this last seventh one gets a wish and we don't know what the fuck that means. But what do people primarily do with Dragon Balls when they collect them all? People think it's going to revive a dead character. So, which I think is fine thematically. I mean, it's a somewhat random system. Yeah, a bit, because you're going to aim to do a short dropped combo.
Starting point is 02:13:41 You know, like in a game that's a hyper game too, where like, like things just do tons of hits. Honestly, I don't like, this is a system that I imagine you don't pay much attention to until you're down to your last character and you're at a disadvantage and there's more characters on the other. That's the only time I like be like, Oh shit, because trying to make certain numbers of combos before, after like a certain, you can't, you can't make that for, I mean, you can make it precise, but it's tricky because beams are just
Starting point is 02:14:10 like a Marvel game. So I want it to be, you can either cash in for a revive, an instant kill, but there's also one hundred, one hundred chance of getting panties of Oolong jumping in and being like panties and fucking your shit up. Yeah, you're right, you're right, you're right. I would like, I want to find out more. I hope it's not something game breaking or I hope it is. I know the, the act is, it's been good so far.
Starting point is 02:14:37 The activation requirements seem so obscure that like, I can't, even if it is game breaking, like I can't see. It's similar to the fucking weird systems in Fist of the North Star. It sure is, but those are still like, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. Sure is, but those are still like, those are bullshit, but they're based on your work, you know? Yeah, not a shared.
Starting point is 02:15:00 It's not a shared thing. Exactly. About the sharing thing. I almost feel like they're sharing it because there's not enough, like screen real estate. Oh, don't worry. Well, system works. Always knows how to squeeze out more screen real estate for bars.
Starting point is 02:15:11 That's true. I mean, like the, the, you know, again, the, the unionists and unionial void system is shared as well. So, um, there's a game. That is, uh, coming out called Wishmere and this is interesting. This is, uh, yeah, actually, uh, the creator was, I think as a fan, uh, it's pretty cool, got in touch, but, uh, this popped up on, on the news as well. This seems to be basically a, um, it's almost reminds me of like the
Starting point is 02:15:40 new double dragon games where, uh, there's like really extensive combos and juggling going on in this, uh, beat them up slash fighting game. And it kind of like shows you like, uh, uh, some cool juggles, some cool stuff you can do, kind of stylish. Um, kind of reminds me a bit of, um, pocket rumble. A little bit of that too. Just cause the, the, the sprite animation or whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:16:08 Um, Wishmere is a strange name. Yeah. And then there's a time slowdown ability as well. That's a bit like, uh, the guilty gear, um, what should we call it? When you, when you YRC and time slows down and then you can do like some more impressive combos and stuff like that. So, uh, yeah, that's something that's popping up and is now available on Steam. Oh, it's out.
Starting point is 02:16:32 So, okay, there's that. I'll check it out. Um, well, uh, arms comic coming. A lot of people are like, oh, Nintendo will cancel this. Don't worry. I'm like, no, I'm mysterious for us. Well, it's an official license thing that an Udon artist is doing. Most surprising is not that it's, it's not a manga.
Starting point is 02:16:54 It's, it's like, it's a comic. It's a comic and, um, it's being put out by, uh, uh, who was it? An arms, uh, no, sorry, an arms, uh, an Udon artist was drawing it, but I'm not sure if it's actually being put out by Udon. If anything, I'm sure it's dark. Yeah, but it's, but it's a Western thing. It's a Western thing with dark horse. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:17:15 So like, not at all, that's fucking weird. Not at all. What do you'd expect? Because dark horse or like shown in manga usually publish like the mangas that already exist, but this is like being created just for that. Like, look, look at that. Art's actually really sick. Yeah, that's cool.
Starting point is 02:17:28 That's pretty good. Um, very surprised to hear that it's an American comic, but that's what's going down. Expand upon the world that begs for no explanation. I woke up with these arms, but how mysterious forces don't question them. And speaking of not having your arms, we talked about it a little bit at Eva, uh, at the Evo cast, but guts is now, uh, available as a demo. And it's, it's this fighting game where it's basically the spiritual success, successor to time killers, time killers.
Starting point is 02:18:00 Are you serious? Uh, yeah. So I, I played this a bit at Evo and I thought it was pretty good fun. Actually, I don't even think it's out now. I think it's out the demos out now. Oh yeah. Okay. Um, and what ends up happening is you fight and there's blades and
Starting point is 02:18:14 bullshit all around the stage. And when you hit people off the walls or just attack them, their limbs fly off. And then you can flop around with whatever limbs you've got. But like I said before, when I talk about this game, if you have enough meter, you can go over to your limb and reattach it. Therein lies the game. So that's guts. This looks like something.
Starting point is 02:18:38 Sure. It looks like fodder for us to play. Yeah. Good. You mean got to know. Gats. There you go. All right.
Starting point is 02:18:52 There's a hawk. Also, thank you, Nintendo, for letting amiibo unlockables and Mario Odyssey be obtainable without amiibos. There you go. It's, it's called game journalists. They learn, they learn. That's that.
Starting point is 02:19:08 I did. It's great. Let's take some emails. And this cuphead kerfuffle is an easy way to make a lot of people look fucking stupid. He sure is. I'm glad someone was here to do it. Hey, if you got an email about this one time, you look stupid.
Starting point is 02:19:21 Yeah. Send it to super best friendcast at gmail.com. And we, the most qualified paragons of quality game play that never looks stupid. Actually, no, we the paragons of knowing what it's like to look stupid in front of a big crowd. Well, read your email and go, that's a shitty email. And then go to a better one like this.
Starting point is 02:19:40 Hey, uncomfortable hypothetical about space colonies and incest. Got it. This is, this is applicable to the channel, man. It's very important. I'm sure it is. All right. Nolan Gams says, dear rapidly aging ground beef boys. What is he?
Starting point is 02:19:59 Suppose you have a family with a son and a daughter that's aboard a space faring vessel, that's right, escaping a dying earth. Sure. Doctor comes up to you and says inbreeding is going to be a problem for us down the line. Yep. If you give your kids the serum while they're adolescent, they'll grow up genetically different enough to have kids without any problems.
Starting point is 02:20:16 You don't have to do it, but eventually other generations will. Do you give your kids the serum? Yes. Well, this serum sounds like it just solves all the problems. Yeah. What's the issue here? Yeah. Do you let your kids mumbo every person I've posted this hypothetical
Starting point is 02:20:33 shrinks away with disgust? Oh, I mean, that's gross. Yeah, but. Man, sounds like a problem. Solver doesn't make the situation not. Yeah. And I guess, well, no, and if the, if the, if the, if the, um, I mean, it's still weird, but if the alternative is just sit and die, yeah, then I think
Starting point is 02:20:54 everyone because I mean, for like, would probably take it once you're far enough past first cousin after that. It's like genetically different. And we know for a fact that multiple cultures where being like super creepy and sesty is not that big of a deal. It's not that big of a deal. It means that people societally can get over it. No, the, the issue actually is would you rather your kids like maybe have
Starting point is 02:21:19 sex with a cousin to further the human race, would you rather not give the serum and everyone just kind of sit around and live out their lives and know and procreate? No, no, it's, it's, it's like, cause it's like, it's not necessarily going to be your kids, right? Like earth populations low. So it's going to be like, so it's like, it's just a safeguard against birth defects.
Starting point is 02:21:42 It's all it really is. And it's like, it's still going to be weird if your kids grew up in the same household, right? That's actually going to stop it. And all the prog, yeah, the natural, actual, like freak ass deviant, the natural programming that makes you super grossed out by your siblings. The question didn't really state how many people would be a barn. But I mean, like, again, but if it's, but if it's a life or death
Starting point is 02:22:02 situation, then call me woolly. I don't know. I don't, I don't see a problem with this kind of serum in non-life or death situations. Let people do whatever they want, man. So I don't want to look at it. That's going to be weird. Like do it over there, kids.
Starting point is 02:22:18 Go have your babies over there. And don't hold hands. Go into that dewy corner of this. Dad comes from the old society in which that resulted in all right, moving on. Uh, Ben says, Hey guys, uh, wanted to say thanks for the hemophilia shout out and, uh, the, the, because I love it when hemophilia gets a shout out in media because he has it.
Starting point is 02:22:42 Oh, that would explain that. And, um, skipping past a lot of the first part here, talking about that to get to the question, which is, um, uh, I love, I love the one that pops up in game, it would have popped up in your game of Thrones machinima and when it gets dropped and stuff like the Simpsons and Elder Scrolls for what rare or unknown quirks, they don't have to be medical things. Do you have or know about, and you love seeing pop up in shows and or other games?
Starting point is 02:23:07 I like tears from crime Island with my health bar set at 50% men. My favorite is, uh, minor rheumatoid arthritis, giving you weather powers. Yeah, you can sense the, you can sense the, which is a super real thing. Yeah, your bones, my friend, uh, Dan slash Fuggins, he fucked his ankles up so bad a couple of years ago that now he can tell when the storm is coming. Cause the ankle swell up like shit. Um, I like laughing at Japan's obsession with what is it called? And you have two different colored eyes.
Starting point is 02:23:39 Hetero, I love laughing at that. I think it's like some sort of bloodline of godliness. Oh man, dude, hetero, like I have a family member who has hetero, they have one green eye and one brown eye. And so like that growing up that shit is like a cool thing. I'm like, it couldn't be less mundane. Yeah. I'm like, that's, we always made fun of my sister's shit.
Starting point is 02:24:01 I do it's like, she got shit in it. It's like blood types, but hey, you know, no one gives a shit, but they do. Uh, I like when people have OCD in media. Oh, that's just fun. That's fun for a story. Yeah, it's very fun. Um, and you go, oh man, at least I don't have it. That's why I do anyway, because like there's stuff that shows up a lot.
Starting point is 02:24:24 Like PTSD is so common and it's a bit like, all right, you know, we've seen multiple versions of that because it's, it'll create a crippling problem when the time comes, you're like in police knots and stuff. But, uh, yeah, you don't see OCD very often. And when you do, it's, it's always interesting. There was like, um, as good as it gets, you know, and, and like scrubs even had an episode about that and stuff. And it's always like, yeah, that's, that's interesting.
Starting point is 02:24:50 Um, Andrew, Henry wants to know, uh, what, what's the coolest way you've been introduced to a piece of media, um, I guess for context in the sixth grade, I had a super dope teacher, uh, with an eclectic wardrobe and a ponytail. Godzilla versus destroy a tattoos across his back. That's lame. Reflecting on it a decade later, I realized that I got into anime because he lent me his own English sub discs and the first few arcs of Naruto.
Starting point is 02:25:19 It's cringy, I know, but 12 year old me thought it was the raddish it ever. And it opened my mind up to anime and so on. Um, anything similar? Uh, I, I got one. I know what my favorite way to get introduced to a subject is, is where a friend of yours that knows your tastes very well, because you share them, comes up to you and says, Hey Pat, and I go, what, and they go, watch this. And I go, and they go, shut up, watch it.
Starting point is 02:25:45 Just what you'll like it. Like Willie did with me. Yeah. Well, it kind of didn't more or less the same thing to me. And then you watch it and you're like, I'm glad I didn't waste time on questions. There you go. Uh, I think I want to think I mentioned it before, but I, when I was winning every fan art contest at the black Goku, and when he was like, here, you can buy, well,
Starting point is 02:26:10 as a, as a, as the prize, you can go through this catalog of all my anime DVDs. Like the easiest way I could get them by winning these contests. So I saw one that said Berserk and I'm like, Oh, is this based on that cool video game I played on the Dreamcast years ago? Man, I hope it's as good as that. So like the game of Berserk being my entry point to even knowing what the fucking anime or the manga even was, is like always interesting to me. That was always like when I started the, the, the, the anime, I was like,
Starting point is 02:26:45 that's why he's like that. Cause I've been, I, that's, that's, that's super interesting to me because yeah, I was watching real media files of that shit back way back when. Um, no, I don't think I have one. Awesome. So that's a cool story. Yep. Sometimes you don't want said, Hey, you should check the set.
Starting point is 02:27:04 You're like, Hey, that's a good, Hey, sometimes you don't have an answer. Um, just being real, trying to think of an answer for you. Cause I'm sure you're the important, the important thing that one, the person comes and tells me to shut up is that I believe them. Cause I can see it in their eyes that they believe what they're saying, that I will be happy. Uh, okay. Kevin says, uh, podcast question, muscle memory, hidden memory must remain unlocked.
Starting point is 02:27:32 Beware, seal broken, ultra instinct unleashed. Willy why? Dear super best friend cast that after the recent Dragon Ball one hour episode, Goku acquired a new skill by compressing a spirit bomb into a black hole and getting pulled into it and absorbing it while being SSJ G SS SS blue, uh, called ultra instinct. Yeah. I heard about this.
Starting point is 02:27:52 Jiren apparently, is there a picture of it? Uh, well, he's doing a spirit bomb and then, um, the duties fighting, like just kind of like baits him into doing it. And then when he does it, he just kind of looks at him and like uses his mind powers to push it back into Goku. And instead of like dying to his own spirit bomb, he absorbs it and it pushes him into even further beyond. So it's a God level technique that allows your muscles to move beyond,
Starting point is 02:28:17 move, move before your brain can give it a command because of super speed battles. Not even most gods of destruction are able to learn this ultra instinct. All caps, uh, plagues really happy about while there isn't necessarily a muscle memory while this isn't necessarily muscle memory, but giving your muscles its own brain. This has given me the courage to hide behind this event, like a true coward and send you guys an email. Okay.
Starting point is 02:28:41 Um, have you ever had a moment where muscle memory takes over and you can't help it, uh, because he basically, he's like a few months ago, I remember, I blame Willie for this. When I did my, the boy, I was talking about Boruto. I did my hand gesture for the Katon go, Kakuno Jutsu. And then I did the whole thing perfectly because I learned how to do all the hand symbols perfectly. Have you ever had that type of moment where things like that make you unable
Starting point is 02:29:05 to stop yourself from doing a hand gesture or doing something by muscle memory? Um, trying to think. I think there's like once or twice where it's either in the car or just walking along, but if like, I see Leanna or anyone kind of sort of walking. And if I feel like they're going to trip on something, my hands will literally jut out and be like, Whoa, watch out. And similarly, when we're in the car and I'm in the passenger seat and there's like, she knows she's going to make a sudden stop, like before the stop even
Starting point is 02:29:33 happened, she just like goes like this and like to stop me, even though I have my seatbelt on and it's taught, like there's no way I'm jutting forward. She doesn't every time, even though I like, I'm buckled in and I'm like, it's okay. I'm buckled in. She's like, no, I just want to make sure you're okay. Yeah. So I think that's the closest thing I can think of.
Starting point is 02:29:52 Hey, Pat, you just learned that a really sick SPD. Touch my nose now. Yeah. It's not just the, it's not just command grabs. There are other things. Of course there are. I, I, I don't know why it's my go to. So I pointed one out to Matt earlier, this, that he might not have been aware
Starting point is 02:30:11 of and I have super observed it with my good eyes. I've seen it so many times. Sharon Gans. He didn't even know about it. Every time Matt is in a food court or at a restaurant looking at possible food options and it's not like a menu. It has to be food in front of him. He plays with his hat.
Starting point is 02:30:31 He starts playing with the hat. He takes it off. He tilts it back on. He does it so, but it's only when he's staring at real food in front of him. And there's only when there's multiple options. If I know exactly what I want, I just beeline it. But when we're in the food court of the airport, I was like, I literally went to the pizza place and I was like, no, I want to take three other places.
Starting point is 02:30:55 It's like, it's like when you, like when you use your, you have your character's idol animation for long enough, you know, and like you wait long enough with Matt and then he starts playing with the hat as he's deciding about his food. So there's that. Um, you ever done anything else based on muscle memory? I like doing I shriek and tear like a little girl when something pops out at me in anything.
Starting point is 02:31:16 I like doing the piano input, like, like on my hands when I'm just randomly idle, or when there's a door where you have like, you know, like the, the, instead of a handle, it's like the whole emergency push thing. I like doing a Yuri and crash to open the door. And that's the best spot as much as I do that. I do that as well, but sometimes it's because I can't touch the handle. Oh, well, fair enough. That happens.
Starting point is 02:31:42 It's a different reason. Hey, super best friends, good parts of bad movies. Go. The credits. Ah, no, um, there's, there's, there's, I have, I have, I have two. Um, I have, uh, man of steel. I have, uh, Phoura, the, the Kryptonian girl. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, doing that badass Marvel sequence in the town, in
Starting point is 02:32:09 the small town. It was super cool watching her blow shit up really fast like and comboing people. Um, and similarly in Batman V Superman, I have the part where Affleck, uh, the reason why he hates Superman is because of all the dumb super destruction from the first movie. It's the best part of the movie. It's the first.
Starting point is 02:32:27 That's more like an idea though. But I like though, I like that. I like those two things because it's like, yeah, that was the problem with the movie. Um, Friday the 13th, part eight in New York is like legit not fun. Plus it lies to you because only like 20, 20 minutes, like take place in New York and only one, like eight second scene is actually filmed in New York. And it's when, uh, Jason punches off a boxer's head.
Starting point is 02:32:57 Yeah, I mentioned that last week. It's so good after taking a million shots to the body. Like Jason just punches his head off and just watch one of the kills from the game is taken from there's that. I want to say there was something in Alien Covenant, but then I realized there wasn't. Yeah, there wasn't anything good. That's right.
Starting point is 02:33:13 Oh, there's something we all like to terminate or Genesis that we're all like, that's kind of cool. And I think it was when John Connor bought like did a like a Wesker dash and like it had the like pixelized pixels left over and he kind of zoomed. And I literally remember like one of us or two of us going, huh? That's, that's it. I'm trying to thank real hard, but that I always feel so weird about that because like we cannot pretend we didn't walk out of there going.
Starting point is 02:33:45 Yeah, that was all right. Yeah. No, we didn't. We let's not fucking mince words. We walked out. Have you watched it again? I haven't. I have.
Starting point is 02:33:53 Oh boy. I know where we all and I remember really liking how Arnold was like reloading. And that's all he was doing because it just, he's just spending all his time. Something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fucking loading up those guns because guess what? That's what you have to do. Yeah, that takes time.
Starting point is 02:34:09 It's really nice to see a movie be like, yeah, you know what? All that crazy bang bangs has prep and that prep takes days of just loading bullets is very boring. I got nothing. I got nothing. I can't think of a bad movie that I've watched. Yeah, I had a good part. Yeah, OK.
Starting point is 02:34:27 Well, I can think of bad movies and parts I enjoyed when you when you go to see your regular movie intake like a Moji movie. There's nothing you liked in that. All right. And lastly, Vande says, dare men of House Moose Lord north of the wall. OK, game story and visual elements are always determined by the culture of the country or origin. Yeah, you can feel it.
Starting point is 02:34:53 Just you just know where a game comes from by playing it. And with that in mind, what culture or country that does not produce games would you like or would you think would make amazing games? We said this. I think we had a question that's similar to this. But like when we're playing a shitstorm game, there's that area of the world like, you know, tie or whatever. That's like, there are some games nowadays, but it's quite rare.
Starting point is 02:35:15 It's still scary because you're like, this is so unknown to you. I think when we played that, I remember that game should storm last year, it was a mother trying to look for her son. It was lost in the forest and it was like Viking monsters. We were kind of like, whoa, what's more games out of East Asia that don't include Japan, everything in East Asia, that's not Japan. Everything in South America. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:35:43 Three words. They would make right. Ghana, Nigeria, yeah. Nollywood, baby, straight to Nigeria. If we had, if if if we were like playing an LP, yeah, and the words out of a child with a knife came up and said, if it were not for the laws of this land, I already would have slaughtered you. It would have been a classic.
Starting point is 02:36:06 And then the tiger attacks and it's the killer one and two. That's yeah. Dude, I watch this dude. I think I think games out of Nigeria would be the greatest. I watch this, but specifically in that Nollywood style. I watch this Nigerian movie. It was like a horror movie. And it was just like this guy and his wife, just he's like, I can buy this house.
Starting point is 02:36:26 This house is going to be such a good deal, baby. And she's like, I don't know about this house and they go in and she's just like living there and she just sees this monster. That's a bunch of garbage bags and red eyes. She's like, I'm not living in this house. That like that conversation repeats for two hours. That's the movie. I'm going to look up the name of it and mention it next time.
Starting point is 02:36:50 Because it was amazing. It was so due to live action and PS1 era explosions. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love it. It's just garbage bag monster. No, do it. Do it. Do it. Who killed Captain Alex? So that's called.
Starting point is 02:37:05 And we missed one of those those fun movies at a at a Fantasia one year. Like we both couldn't go. Yeah, there's always because it's like Duke Nukem explosions is always in the middle of summer with a million things going on. What's coming up? What's coming out? Let's wrap this baby up. There's probably a lot of fun stuff coming out.
Starting point is 02:37:24 There's tons of shit storms, man. We made making them we made them and we're making some people confused about what it was just so I'm actually is if Pat and I really like a game. Really? What? Yeah. No, this year's format's a little different. Yeah. If Pat and I really like a game or it's like interesting, we keep going.
Starting point is 02:37:41 We will continue more. Usually like an hour, but sometimes maybe more, right? And if a game feels like kind of limited, like this is this is the most we can get out of this, then it's going to be like a one off. I can I can tell you that there are two games that we have recorded thus far that are just massive piles of shit. Yeah. That when we finished and we were like, yeah, 28 minutes.
Starting point is 02:38:07 One of those is Night Trap. Oh, wait, no, there's three. Oh, wow. OK, I forgot. And remember one had the most hilarious ending where we just cut it right there. It's like a character opens up something and then something happens. But yes, that's how that's going. And I think we're do we want to talk about the new LP we're going to start?
Starting point is 02:38:26 No, yeah. Well, we already we already open. We already talked about it. We're going to sit out and record Marvel this week. Yeah, I remember before I leave to go look forward to Japan so I can finally get my extra stages. I'm going to. Yeah, we're going to do the Marvel LP.
Starting point is 02:38:42 Well, at least we can get the extra stages. Stage. There's a bunch of stages that are that you have to beat story mode. That's why we're going to do the Marvel LP for Wally. Yeah, a bunch of them. And they get added to the stage select. Like, yeah, they're not just variants of existing. They might some of them might be. OK, but some of them are definitely unique
Starting point is 02:38:58 and you can only get them after beating it. Jesus, I bet there's like a shitload of awesome games that actually come out this week because it's October. Does anyone know what's that? Sorry, I bet there's a shitload of awesome games that come out this week and we just don't know October and everything. I know that Evil Within 2 comes on this Friday. The Friday. You said awesome games.
Starting point is 02:39:18 I know shadow. It could be awesome. I know shadow of more loot boxes comes out tomorrow. Shadow of Sexy Spider Bishes. Man, that loot box shit is just the saddest. We didn't talk about when they had that stupid DLC for like that they're going to charge money for for that game, that lead game developer that died and everyone's like, that's fucked up. Oh, that is fucked up.
Starting point is 02:39:38 Oh, yeah. Yeah. They had this like a project manager died, nice guy. And they're like, here's an orc that looks like him. This cost five dollars. That's fucked up. And it was so fucked up that they rescinded it. And they're like, OK, he's just going to be in the game for free. Sorry. Oh, he was a loot box only. No, no, he's like it was a special orc
Starting point is 02:39:58 that was in a pack and a cost money. OK, because I'm not sure if it was a loop. I remember hearing about that story. So getting sucked into a loot box. Well, I remember hearing about that story, but I also believe I heard that it was like to raise money for something. But maybe that now they took the money aspect away from it. OK, I believe. All right.
Starting point is 02:40:18 That's fair. So, yeah, no, October, you're looking at Evil Within 2. You're looking at Destiny 2 on PC. Yep. You're looking at Askredo. Oh, man, I'm on the 27th. I'm looking up Askredo and that looks good. It does. I'm hopefully the PC version isn't super fucked up. It is. You can't guarantee.
Starting point is 02:40:38 There was a report saying it's going to be fucked up. Oh, was there? Yeah. Are you making that up? No. It's on NEOGAS somewhere. Look it up for details. But I saw I saw a thing that said, oh, look all these options they got. You're looking at the new Colossus.
Starting point is 02:40:50 Oh, yes. Of course. And Mario and Mario. Oh, yeah. I just meant this week. But I guess Mario, Mario, then. Yeah, New Donk City. Yeah, finally get to hear what Pauline's been up to. Hopefully she married Donkey Kong. That'd be dramatic as shit.
Starting point is 02:41:06 I mean, the name implies something. Yeah, man. How do you take over? She's the mayor of this dick. Yeah. Yeah. No, I reside. She like governs. I want a retcon that makes Mario Bros.
Starting point is 02:41:20 the arcade game against Donkey Kong to be like Pauline's at was actually just chilling with Donkey Kong at the top of his tower. And she's like, oh, God. Mario was just being like a fucking weird asshole. Just like, that's my girl. And they're like, no. He was just being a creep.
Starting point is 02:41:36 Yeah. Yeah. To be fair, though, she's in a cage. Yeah. Well, maybe that dance. Go go dance here. I don't know. You never know. Yeah. Don't judge. Matt, you mentioned something about Friday the 13th. Literally, you can only stream Friday the 13th
Starting point is 02:41:52 the game on Friday the 13th, maybe once every year, two years. So this Friday, a new map and a new Jason comes out. So I'll be streaming that at Matthew McMussles at the Twitch stuff. The Twitch stuff. The Twitch stuff. Everyone knows it. What are you guys personally looking forward to this week?
Starting point is 02:42:09 I am actually really interested to. Well, you know, guess what, everyone? We're going to be doing. We're going to be doing evil within two. Damn it. Yeah. Oh, big shocker. You have to. OK. You know what? You keep talking. I'm going to go. I'm going to the guy who did the goddamn review
Starting point is 02:42:25 thing of evil thing I was telling you to watch. I'm going to go find his name. OK. Yeah. Let's just talk about it all now. We're going to be playing that, right? But I am actually really interested to play like maybe an hour by myself just to be like, because it's one of the more like I think about this game quite a bit and how like it was not a horrible game, not even a bad game.
Starting point is 02:42:46 It was like the most disappointing thing I've ever played in lieu of what it's OK. It wasn't bad because you guys are really upset at it. We're upset at it because it was so disappointing, but it wasn't a bad that we I personally ran into a bunch of bad shit with that game and that I had the worst possible experience. The problems I remember with the invisible line and stuff like that. The invisible line, the constant crashing
Starting point is 02:43:10 on different versions. Then there's other stuff that you may or not remember. Will you like that game was hard coded to be letterbox the entire. I remember. I remember that. And it was just the most baffling thing I've ever had reasons that I don't remember. Yeah. So like I want to play a bit of it just like alone, not in like a shitstorm environment, just to be like, OK, this is better, at least
Starting point is 02:43:30 from like the first hour or so to Matt and to people who maybe are a bit hazy on Evil Within, because we didn't do the DLC and the DLC totally recontextualized the whole story. We did. We did like 30 percent of one deal. There's a guy and I watched his video. His name is Chris Davis on YouTube. He's some one of them UK people. He might be Irish. I can't tell. I'm bad at this.
Starting point is 02:43:54 But he does a two hour breakdown of pretty much every single thing in Evil Within and all the DLC, both the story and like its mediocre, its mediocre problems and where it goes. And you should at least watch the DLC parts, Matt, because that story stuff is important, especially considering it seems like the I have a feeling it's not going to be all that important in the context of the sequel. Well, the fact that like Jonathan's sorry, not Seabass's character got like rewritten right before release to have different family stuff.
Starting point is 02:44:25 And the sequels all about his family. Yeah, that part's important. That's true. So, yeah, that's Chris Davis on YouTube. I'm probably get a message from him going, what did you do to my channel? It sucks. It sucks to still see that like it has the fighting chance pack for Evil Within, too. Like it's so immersion breaking.
Starting point is 02:44:46 Yeah, I that is extra first aid. So I've actually gotten to the point where on steam, you can turn those off. So if you because I hate those pre-order bonuses to give you like power-ups. But you still want to pre-order it? No, I don't. But you don't have to turn them off if you don't. What I mean is like you go in and you in you own the DLC menu and steam, you just uncheck it.
Starting point is 02:45:11 No, this came up in Dead Space 2, right? Right. But in in like console games, I I hate pre-order in them because you can't turn that off. And when you start up the game, it'll have like a little notice saying like, oh, you can buy the pre-order thing. But then there's always a pre-order thing that I actually want like the fancy wall. And it's like, come on, just let me turn.
Starting point is 02:45:31 I don't want the power-ups. Give me Leon's jacket. Yeah. Assassin's Creed Origins. Give me Leon's jacket. I want it back. Where the jacket? I'm no, I'm looking forward to being reminded about how much Blizzard hates Zarya.
Starting point is 02:45:52 That's good. I still don't 100% have seen every costume. Well, it's true. Maybe there's a holding out for hope, but probably not. You know what? Can I just just give up? Like, no, OK, I can I want to officially any that I want to have new Heroes of the Storm ones to fucking.
Starting point is 02:46:09 All right, look, I want to officially commission Mothman to make the Zarya costume that that that Blizzard won't make like his. I officially like like Moth. I commission if you've got the time to make a Zarya costume. That's awesome. That's a cool all because Blizzard will never do it because they don't care. Cthulhu drawing like kind of blew up. A lot of people like his Twitter post of it.
Starting point is 02:46:32 He's like, whoa, holy shit. Everyone kind of latched on that because he a he did it so quickly. He should make now what a Halloween one for Zarya would look like just to like hit them. That's what I mean. Yeah, exactly. That's what I mean. So hopefully Blizzard can maybe somewhat see it. It's it's Inktober.
Starting point is 02:46:48 So yeah, exactly. It's even more appropriate if you're if you're feeling up to it. That's cool. Yeah, he'll find time. All right, Mothman always finds time unless he's painting his little dolls. That's a worthy endeavor. All right, we beat it. I love you, Mothman.
Starting point is 02:47:08 We beat it. He's a good one. All right, let's record a podcast preview. Get out of here. That's that. Yeah, and die. Yeah, yeah. In that order.
Starting point is 02:47:17 Yeah. Mm hmm. Don't move, don't move, don't move, don't move. Don't move, don't move, don't move, don't move. Don't move, don't move, don't move, don't move. Don't move, don't move, don't move, don't move. Don't move, don't move.

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