Castle Super Beast - SBFC 220: Five Fish Sex Gods Await You in Valhalla

Episode Date: October 24, 2017

With Halloween around the corner, we spin the scariest yarn of all: GAMES AS A SERVICE. You can watch us record the podcast live on twitch.tv/superbestfriendsplay Download for mobile Outro: Kobayashi ...- 2 Cent First 13 Xbox backward compatible games for Xbox One announced, available October 24 TMNT Arcade Game 12 minutes of Co-Operative footage of horror shooter, Hunt Showdown Freddy Krueger coming to Dead By Daylight The Switch port of RE Revelaitons is getting exclusive 8 bit mini games Dragon Ball FighterZ launches January 26 in the Americas and Europe Dragon Ball FighterZ Nappa, Captain Ginyu, and story mode screenshots PACIFIC RIM / GODZILLA / KONG CROSSOVER IS A POSSIBILITY Assassin’s Creed Origins launch trailer Shin Megami Tensei V Little Witch Academia: Chamber of Time five-minute trailer Million Arthur It’s Letter Time The WATCH

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All right, all right, let's let's do it. Shall we ride this is all right like Yeah, yeah, but there's a fighting game. That's like all right like Terry Bogard No, no, no, it's way it's like fighters history guy. Maybe yeah, there is no I know what you're talking about There's there's a couple of no it's Street Fighter one Oh, right. Yeah you Yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I'm gonna do Street Fighter one. So I hope you enjoyed today's podcast. That was great Time to go
Starting point is 00:00:57 Hi, hey What up? What up? Um I love how death cargo is just it's just chillin. It's just got a physical copy of death cargo sitting here now No, we know I'm just I'm like glad it's always there. Yeah, I know it's an it's the fifth member. It's That's what it's here to do. It's also the fourth. Yes Oh, that's good. That's good. So, um No, no, no just sitting next to this game box and the game box has headphones on that damn straight Why not? I'm not gonna disrespect the fucking cargo necro storm necro. Did I get it right? Yes, I did
Starting point is 00:01:33 Nice necro storm sounds like an event an image Or or or what you got or valiant If you remember at new york comic con, they had this in the summer event They were pushing and it was something really edgy sounding Oh, someone someone let us know maybe and we walked by and they were really trying to rope people in Hard current valiant comics has the end of everything going on like either last month or this month or coming up It sounded so final. Damn it. You were totally right. I've Pointed that out. Oh, well. It was a big one
Starting point is 00:02:09 Anyway necro storm starts here like that. That's like in um Supreme number zero. Yeah, you got to know where to start. Yeah. Yeah supreme number zero is where it's edge edge double edge Yeah, exactly. Although the dc event metal is literally that Everything's metal like dark knight metal justice league metal and the batman stuff is he's fighting a different demonic armored form of himself. That's a different fracture of his of his As psychology like here's his guilt here and they're all like bosses That's pretty cool. Yeah, Scott Snyder was like man I've been wanting to write this forever and I'm like since when since you were 15
Starting point is 00:02:53 Because it sounds like I mean, it's cool But it's very undecided me speaking of armored bosses for those of you who are Tuned in visually. I'm sorry to disappoint that. I'm not wearing a rathaloset No, you're not not yet right away right here alive, but halloween is coming. We're working on it It's gonna take a minute. You're dressing as female monster. Oh my god. Um Yeah, that's cool. All right. Well, um, I don't know. There's a million directions to start here. Yeah
Starting point is 00:03:29 Where do we where do we what? Well, you're you're what monster hunter willy. What's the deal with monster hunter monster hunter is Uh, as far as I'm concerned a fighting game character It's fine. That's fine. Oh People are gonna love this one. Yep. No, that's a fighting game character That's a fighting game character before with a lot of good moves before marvel infinite You're even unsure how to pronounce the name Mon hun
Starting point is 00:04:04 Yeah Oh, you mean monster hunter from marvel. Yeah, that's correct. That's where she comes from Yeah, and I'm a big fan. I really like her and uh I've officially I think dropped Thanos for her. Yeah. No, I saw like Thanos no longer best friend. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so I mean, but basically like I've been spending a lot of time You know getting getting good at marvel getting better at marvel and trying to like like, you know, not be completely free Mainly, um, always a noble goal to not be completely free. Yeah, and I go for and right now
Starting point is 00:04:43 I feel like I'm doing all right as far as like Montreal is concerned, but uh, We'll have to feel like I've pretty much dominated most of the city I've gone to different marvel gyms There's like like like whatever I've I've won against most you feel good in this city. I feel pretty good I feel pretty good in different cities. You're you don't know. Yeah, obviously It's not as huge as a group as as like save of street fighter is but like I'm doing all right Um, but the real question is canada cup is next week And I'm heading down to that and that's where
Starting point is 00:05:23 The battle for the stones is taking place So I'm gonna I'm gonna be entering to see Do you get the shitty eggs from the collector's edition? No, do they throw that in? No, it's way cooler Actually, no, no, no, whatever the actual cool thing is that's fine But you should also get the shitty eggs See like I would like to think you get uh an actual nice version of the of the eggs You know sure But um, that would be terrible. Look what's interesting about the tournament is that it's like, I mean, you know, it's an official marvel tournament, right?
Starting point is 00:05:57 whatever but What you get at each one of the events Uh, that tech takes place. You just get one you get one stone. That's way cooler. Okay, so To to kind of break this down for you a little bit. It's it's not as simple as it sounds um Let me see if I can pull up the site here just to show you so it's the marvel premiere event and what they're doing with it is the uh
Starting point is 00:06:25 There's a different stone gets done at different events Mindstone is going to cat to canada cup which is next week, right? The winner of each stone Gets an ability to use in tournament shut up What what's an example? Okay an example here. They're so far here is what they've revealed All right Okay, the space stone allows the stone bearer to swap their position in the bracket and face a different opponent at an equal position So if you decide to call it right now and you have it you go space stone I'm using it and you get to change your position in the bracket to somewhere else in the exact same spot
Starting point is 00:07:05 This is like in if it like at at ceo or something if someone had a money in the bank briefcase Exactly, that's all I didn't right. No one. No no one knew Because no one's paying attention You know, and it's fine. I'm not going to tell people to pay attention But this is a tournament with some really cool shit going on. Okay. Is that all they've announcers or more? There's totally more. Okay, but is any I'll just jump ahead as any of this considered like that's fucking unfair Or is it all like yeah, that's fine Dude in the context of a of a tournament of this of all of these things existing. Yeah, they're not meant to be fair
Starting point is 00:07:41 They're meant to be no bit is like is one of them considered to be actual like that is unfair Let's go through what's what's revealed so far. So the space stone lets you switch any point in the bracket That's actually good because it it goes with the theme of space Exactly, dude. It's it's really it's a fun idea. Okay, soul stone Now resurrects your soul you from the from death Raise one of their losses and basically lets you come back from any three out of five set so If you so I assume that like
Starting point is 00:08:15 Low early on in the bracket if it's pools and you're doing two out of three Then maybe i'm wrong about this, but if you're doing two out of three that it doesn't count once you get to three out of five You can come back from a defeat and basically undo a loss, which is huge as well Um, they're all really fucking useful. Yeah, it says resurrect your stuff Resurrect your soul. Yes. Okay time stone. Why you stop someone else. I'm using their stone. Yes So if you have the time If you have the time stone you get to stop someone else who has a stone from using it At and for one match so you can lock down anyone else's ability with that stone, right? Okay
Starting point is 00:08:57 Okay, and like it's an each brand they like each of these stones has gone to a winner so far Uh power stone was revealed this weekend. Okay, and power stone was I was revealed at redville poomin grounds They didn't have an updated the website damn, but the power stone allows you to get the first touch in the match Which is huge in a game like marvel i was gonna say in like streetfighter fun You're like, yeah, okay, then marvel It's like you can get killed two touches because you you your set play begins now You get to do your ridiculous setup and then have them
Starting point is 00:09:35 Basically pop out and then reset them and possibly take the whole match from first touch Wow, it guarantees first time. This is the best thing about the game I'm telling you like like it's a really fun idea and fucking god bless them because this is super dope And so what we're gonna find out Next weekend at canada cup is what the mind stone is. Yeah, okay, and we don't know what that could be I got something though. What? If you get reality stone Spidey's infinite is unbanned just for you
Starting point is 00:10:10 I thought you were gonna say people in the audience can throw tomatoes at you from the you know from the the bleachers You can physically web up your opponent with tape Reality stone A bunch of people run up and just start to fucking tape duck taping you to the chair As long as your hands are on the stick, you're still good. You can still play Oh man. No, mind stone can be anything. I don't know
Starting point is 00:10:38 You're allowed to distract your opponent while he's playing. Do you have any theories at all like actual theory? You're like while you're while you're doing the set. He you have a fake phone call from his mom Oh Has to answer a cell phone call you have you have like yeah, you have like a family relative Run in and deliver new like really important news During the match and see if you can break their concentration I don't know. I don't know. Maybe there's you know your car is being broken into in the parking lot It's like why did all these tournaments require me to enter my my parents addresses and home phone
Starting point is 00:11:20 But I guess it was like, you know to Emergency numbers in case I get on the big screen. They cut the footage of like your parents and at home Yeah, like are like fucking like home invasion about to take place and you're just staring at the fucking I Mind stone And it cuts to the other player and he's just happy as a clam is just like tapping. I use I use my stone I use my you want me to do. I don't know what it was going to do. I just used it Yeah, and they know to be prepared that means they had to send people to
Starting point is 00:12:01 Organize what the mind stone would do if you're in top 32. There are people at your parents house right now Waiting for that call If you use mind stone leading up to the match or the person you decide to use it against They change all like they they change all of his placements and all the brackets and he's like last or he's out Or whatever and he's like, wait, no, what no, there's a hey, hey, there's there's a problem. I'm not and they're like Are you sure because all the documentation says you you got blown up in pools Like I used my time stone. You don't have to show me my parents having sex anymore Oh god, yeah, I I would
Starting point is 00:12:43 Out of everything I'd want someone to use time stone against someone else's stone It would be really fun. That would be the second it'd be really fun That's the thing that money in the bank money in the bank needs a counter break. Yeah Which could be set up by having a different event, right? Or something or some type of like other belt or briefcase A clipboard that you could just throw at the guy and then it just it just takes away his thing God countering needs to be more like life events like a briefcase. That's just debt in the bank And if you cash in your debt in the bank that it nullifies the money in the bank and you get zero
Starting point is 00:13:23 Yeah, you have to There's a briefcase where a guy opens it up and you get bumped down to nxt Like I want to see someone come running in with their briefcase And then someone else just goes no debt in the bank and then he just stops running And then just turns around and walks back You go back to the developmental. Yeah You go to tough enough Oh, that's good stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I I just heard the name battle the stones. I'm like, yeah
Starting point is 00:13:54 That's cool name for for attorney series on marvel and that's it. That's all I thought that's all I saw No, totally totally understandable why no one would notice my eyes have opened. Yeah Yeah, so this is a ton of fun and I can't wait to see what's gonna happen next week in toronto But anyway, no, so like that's what that's what basically what I've been doing and practicing You say you're gonna go to toronto I'm going to toronto if you can remember if you have the the time go to that russian fucking vodka bar. I hear you It's not like I'm not sure I might have the time but I don't know Yeah, just saying if you do have the time it's it's gonna be a tightly packed weekend. All right, because I just know you'll like it
Starting point is 00:14:35 Um, if I can if I can get some people but also like the canada cup It's it's it's a lap chi event and that's the he's the canadian dawn that like fucking the dawn really Yeah of the fgc. So like he does big parties organized for the official stuff. Anyway, you know Um, I want to do there's nothing better than drunk in japanese players. I bet I like I Emotions come out. I promise you it's the best Um, anyway, so it's like getting good marvel. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Um, and Did you buy any of those costumes or no? I bought I bought the fucking spencer bullshit What's it mccollet groiter just tamar did he come in a pack? I just bought the singles
Starting point is 00:15:19 Okay, because I'm not look I'm not I look I'm not paying fucking 40 dollars for a pack of no not for all of them If you don't play like 80 of the cast exactly and I'm deaf and I'm so I'm just I'm picking What I like if I want to either stare at it Or use it. I picked right. I bought two So I bought ghost rider and miss maro. I'm not miss marvel captain marvel. Yeah Um, you know, well, what should mccollet uh, uh, uh, coach the of the spencer play right? Felicia's don't don't call me a friend if you have this shitty spencer outfit And I bought it and I'm just like
Starting point is 00:15:56 But but but the the color four version basically turns them into giralt Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah with white hair the white hair So I'm like, you know what first I thought it was a different costume all together as a quo Yeah, that's the only color that doesn't look horrendous on him and so I'm playing that one And yeah, I so I bought that and I bought morrigan Just yeah morrigan's is good just so that I can stare at it on the title screen because it's really nice It would reflect on the title screen. It's a pretty it's a pretty title screen with her on it I like her her her a little uh, like, uh, what is it called night warriors?
Starting point is 00:16:30 Kind of candy girl outfit during her victory one of her victory screens. It's like her Casual wear when she it's not no, it's not the white shirt and red pants It's like it's like an oolala outfit kind of no, no, I know what it is But I'm just saying where I where I thought I came from I thought it was another victory pose because yeah, she's got the white dress The white top and the white top red the remi outfit basically Yeah, bitch. I had a dream remi was revealed for street fighter five this morning. Wow. That's that shows where my head's at Yeah, no, that's
Starting point is 00:17:00 um Also Why would you need remi and now zeku? Yeah, that's true Uh dino looks better than regular dante. He does his model like like almost every dlc and like Post-launch thing. It looks better. Yeah, and of course, uh, uh, and the fact that his dt is Accurate, yeah, the colors inversion is nice. And of course, uh, mr. Fix it. Yes. Did you get that or no? I didn't I didn't because Hulk's garbage now, but um, but it is it is. I'm happy to see that His voice isn't different. Don't they right? No, same
Starting point is 00:17:40 Maybe cool, but oh my god, I'll hire a whole new voice actor for just what cost justice does it They make different characters. That's true. It's true They like they had just has the skin that's black lightening, but injustice had more than a shoestring. It's true. Um, I Yeah, no, no, I think uh, mr. Fix it Is probably one of my favorites of that set. I'd rather him have the suspenders and the work shirt Rather than be the gang the gas is so cool. All right. The pinstripe is good. Yeah, but that is I'd say that's fourth best hulk In in totality, you know in hulk in all hulk of that, you know, yeah that I know I think that's that's yeah
Starting point is 00:18:22 um and Yeah, I don't know what else but I mean, uh, obviously like the the the monster hunter stuff is is It's you know It's in there. It's it's in there. It's interesting twitter posts that have big spaces between the letters asking for fan art And everyone's like the just look up from the original no give it to me
Starting point is 00:18:46 So the biggest problem is this character's nameless character. Yeah is the name of a video game making it impossible to actually You know figure out what you're giving me fan art of the street fighter You know, you know Anyway, so there's that other thing I did this week was Billy had a little birthday tournament. Yeah, I'm sorry. I missed that Went out to it had a good time. Uh, he picked some really good mini games That I had never played or seen before like games or like variant rule set on a game
Starting point is 00:19:21 Like specifically games. So yeah, like there's um, like you went back to the Like like from on the we we played like a curvy mini game where you're throwing the stars It was the four player curvy like return to dreamland game. Yeah, and he was playing he's playing the The the star is mini game star one is actually super good. Really fun, right? We did like that and then like the next round of the tournament was um A game in wario. No, no that game in wario. Uh, wario where Like, uh, we you game where you had to like, uh, pull back a slingshot of little like, um
Starting point is 00:20:00 Voxel characters. Yeah, I think we played that at the last one he had but you weren't able to come to that one Right, okay. You didn't play the one where you look for people in the crowd. Did you? No, no, no We just played the the slingshot one and you saw that one's good You sling and it's way better than that one flip flip game that that that came out. Yeah Whatever the fuck that was called But anyway, and yeah, you just slingshot these little like like, you know Cube characters onto platforms and depending on the stage different amounts of nintendo bullshit happen You know like if it's an iceberg then it like tips over
Starting point is 00:20:32 Or it's like a like a teeter totter seesaw and a bird comes over and shits on one and makes it heavier and You know, I switch the words nintendo bullshit would flash on the screen as it happens Yeah, well because the because I didn't know what game it was right. I didn't know what like mini game This belong to type of thing And when I saw a seagull fly up and just take my box and drop it in the ocean because I was first place I'm like, this is a first party Right rubber banding happens in video games, but never does any company besides nintendo rub your face In the fact that fuck you for being first place
Starting point is 00:21:10 The the thing with it is that like in the mini game stuff like even mario party or what you just described I'm like it's kind of fine to me always in a mini game Sort of that framework But it's only when it gets really really bad where I'm like no no to this Is like mario 3d world the four player one simultaneous 3d one That's the one where like some of that nintendo bullshit, but is in the framework of a tight platformer Yeah, that's where that gets the most frustrating. I'm not done anyone's first although I think there was someone gets a crown
Starting point is 00:21:43 Depending if they've done the best during the level I forget I forget what it was But that's where that i'm like that's horseshit now And I mean it like it was already hard enough when like you know You're dealing with that on itself, but then you have four people running around in this camera scrolling and shit I saw leon won a lot of these competitions He did the updates because I was at my parents house and i'm on my phone the entire time and i'm just like Liam definitely had the advantage of knowing the game every game Well, you know what I mean in advance a little bit there, but he did very good too and uh the
Starting point is 00:22:16 um There was also a tech in bowl Which I misheard and didn't know what what are you talking about because I thought we're gonna play tech in ball Right, but it's not tech in ball tech in seven had an update with tech in bowl in it Yeah, I think I remember which I which I didn't play and it's actually a full-fledged bowling game That doesn't it's not like it's recycling the system in any way. It's just bowling. It's just bowling It's a dedicated bowling game and it's very good Was there anything tech in e about it you pick you pick tech in characters
Starting point is 00:22:50 Oh, that's and and depending on who you pick in the cast you have different strengths and weaknesses Okay, so if you're left-handed right-handed you're strong. It's just like marata. Just like I like bowling Yeah, and everyone has a different like, you know, uh bowler profile Yeah, it'd be cool if like Paul could do like a phoenix smash or to the ball like they can get a special move Yeah, so I mean, you know so that like I just Like as someone who just plays like local casuals and and and you know like tournament stuff Like I haven't gone to that mode and really messed with any of tech in seven drops out of the tourney scene But tech in the bowl takes over. Yeah
Starting point is 00:23:26 well, it's just like it It becomes a little difficult for people with accents because when they say let's play tech in bowl Yeah, I'm like Which one did you say there? So Anyway, tech in sports Mm-hmm. It should just be a compilation like a mini game collection. I think that's what we're building up to I think so eventually
Starting point is 00:23:48 um And uh, yeah, the the winners got to pick from his little bag of gifts. Okay. He had little uh, little cam and rider figures and Uh, uh, there was a single funko pop Who was it? It was bb8. So it looked Okay, it looked normal. Um And then like a couple of just like keychains and bullshit. So that was a fun time a fun time um
Starting point is 00:24:14 I also watched uh Thus spake kishi be rohan And uh, it's the jojo Uh side story about rohan Yes, is the anime or movie? Yeah, okay They animated. Okay. So there's a side story about about rohan, you know, like heaven's door. Yeah, all right um, so he has a bunch of side stories because uh, fucking araki loves him
Starting point is 00:24:39 and uh Even though he says he's not his favorite character. I think he's full of shit just like A fuckface that didn't watch twin peaks. Um Like uh, does he say who his favorite character is? He I think I think at a Like as the interview people tend to quote is him saying d.o. Okay, and then I think uh I saw a source that had him saying joe skei, but it's like even if You say these things. I don't believe you that this self insert mangaka
Starting point is 00:25:14 I you know, and he says he actually goes out and says I know you'd think that this manga artist is me a lot of people do But actually we're very different because we have different work ethics and things like that And I'm just like what the fuck ever araki. That's cool manga strong guy That does everything amazingly is clearly your favorite character lobby to say that like this might not be my favorite character But he's the most interesting and I sure do sure stuff with that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No, I don't think that's araki's case at all I believe I do that all the time. I mean, you know, uh I I play samus, but I love kirby in smash brothers, for example. Yeah, okay, you know what I mean
Starting point is 00:25:56 I play blanko, but I love makoto, but whatever. So no, I definitely understand that yeah And he you know, he says joe skei, but it's just like okay, but where's the extra stories Besides the main story about joe skei give us some more then you know So like like where's the receipts? Show me and the people that get side stories are You know, uh, what should we call it? I think yeah fugo from from part five and then
Starting point is 00:26:25 Rohan gets them and then deal of course gets his big book of like philosophies So there's and then you know, occasionally a couple other things But anyway, uh, Rohan has his side story about like random adventures in mario And they just picked a random one to animate which are also randomly numbered So the whole thing is incredibly random using but It was fun. Okay, and it was wacky. How long is it? Uh, 28 minutes. It was a single episode Super short. Um, I hope they do more because david production is the fucking best
Starting point is 00:26:58 um And I would not mind these little like stop gap like Which are taste tests before we have to wait long for part five to come Right because that's gonna take a fucking while. But like it would be nice to have these little pieces of you know To tide you little morsels exactly to whet your appetite. Yeah. Yeah almost like we had the levi side story in uh attack on I'm a fan of those. I'm a fan of these of little ove oveys Um, I haven't watched any episodes since the first one just as an aside
Starting point is 00:27:31 But I saw a trailer or I saw a clip. I was just like wait what it's like side story of geese During this fucking kof cg show destiny There's one episode one fully credited episode. I researched it. That's like we dedicate an entire episode to side story of geese howard and Like you think marvel has a shoestring budget Not only is the cg bad, right? It's like done in china and you can just tell that it's just like The side story of geese howard is done all via artwork this time How is it the interviews from uh
Starting point is 00:28:12 The fucking is it the interviews from the the the journalist in the tech end story? Uh Yeah, it's about that level. It's about that level So it does the thing where it's like, you know, what's canon? The animes and they go geese howard was the brother of wolf gang crosser And they just grew up and then geese howard is like fuck this. I'm gonna move to south town And it shows tongue furu going. I will teach you And even though this is the side story of geese howard I want to see the side story of tongue furu as to why the fuck
Starting point is 00:28:49 He would ever teach geese howard like as a kid. He's still evil looking So all this is all 2d is all 2d artwork just sliding into frame And it just it it just makes geese look stupider and weaker that way That's just that's just an aside starts before out of fighting geese like before Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah like baby goes to wolf gang howard's are saying the exact same things he said in the second fatal fury anime Like oh, you're too weak get out of here, baby brother geese But in this one, they say a geese. I mean in the anime they say that geese is A half brother to krauser in k-wap destiny. They say they're full brothers
Starting point is 00:29:33 Uh, it was always half as far as I knew yes in destiny. They're like no, they're full brothers They don't even mention half. Okay. Sorry just an aside. I'm just like, yeah, but I'm just like so then why it isn't krauser give a fuck about Jeff bogart or any of that shit and why is he hanging out in germany? We're an armor Like what part of being a howard? No, why yeah, who ah, how is his name how are the howards and the krauser is related Even though it was their father even though it was a side story It didn't actually explain anything and how badass must their father have been and who calls their one son wolf gang one son
Starting point is 00:30:14 Geese Anyway, you know whose balls did they come from? That's what I need to know I didn't look at any clips, but I saw also in the episode list side story of benny marth. Oh Jesus If anyone needed backstory that better just be a visual novel of him like hitting on everybody Yeah, yeah Jesus Christ. Okay. I need to I need to like Do I maybe I need to rub my eyes and look at that again? Because I just I'm like this
Starting point is 00:30:46 Yes, you do when it's all done. I don't fucking I think 11 episodes came out. Do you know who's who's who's in it though? Uh, american sports team is back. Yeah, they are brian baller's in there And fucking uh, but I I saw a screenshot and I was like, who's that? I'm like, oh my god Lucky glauber No, it was brian baller, but I was just like who the fuck is that but is it the whole team or is it just I just saw a screenshot of brian baller. I just assumed that his team is in there Because I I think I saw when I mentioned this anime or cg whatever a few weeks ago It's a re it's a reboot of of 94
Starting point is 00:31:22 Yeah, they get an invite said this is the first time kof has been uh three versus three Yeah teams and everyone's like whoa cool So yeah, but it's like why would you bring back brian instead of lucky or heavy d the people that everyone loves? I don't know because they're fucking radical Uh Anyway, um, yeah, that was me. Okay. Uh, I I had time to play a couple games Uh, well fire emblem warriors Being the most notable one like I had forgot it was coming out until Liam was like
Starting point is 00:31:56 Kind of put me on blast a bit where he was streaming fire emblem warriors on his on his twitch And he was like, oh, yeah, he just started it and there's this clip. It's it's not to the arcana heart levels But it says matt is now playing troll and I Nice and he just goes why Why Because he told you to no, but this is after we had done a video. Oh, Jesus christ. Okay, not then I'm gonna explain What happened, please and what happened is that I installed fire emblem warriors
Starting point is 00:32:37 And then what was the last game that I played on my switch troll and I Because we did a video and then I instead of saying like closed software now I pressed a and I resumed it for a spell and that immediately tells everybody tells everybody that I was playing troll And I for a bit look at this fucker So um instead I immediately shut it down and uninstalled it nice and played a bit of fire emblem warriors Like uh, you're you you didn't do the video with us But um when I when we took a look at warriors all stars the tecmo one I was just like, oh man. Fuck this premise
Starting point is 00:33:12 Fuck these new characters that they just put in like I hate this story. I'm just like I'm just so not into a gameplay It's like, yeah, all right But like fire memorials since like every couple of fire emblems is like a whole new universe For a second that you're gonna go man. Fuck this gameplay and these new characters and bullshit. Anyway, but troll and I So I was playing a bit more of it and I really got into it turns around a little bit Um, but since every fire emblem game has like a different kingdom every couple of ones They have a new kingdom and new characters a uh, a brother and sister Uh blonde and they're both like, you know one's more responsible than the other one's more of a hot head the guy
Starting point is 00:33:54 And I'm just like, yeah This totally fits fire emblem. It's not like who the fuck are these people? You know, it's it's it's the same kind of jarringness that uh, what's her? Because the sorcerer girl Awful sorcerer girl from Hyrule warriors one with the books. Yeah, sure. Um, sure. Yeah Exactly short name. Yeah. Yeah. Maya. No. See is the evil priestess. Okay. Anyway, but you know, I'm talking about because it's like Oh, these are clearly new characters that they made for this And even though these are clearly new characters made for fire emblem warriors, I'm like, well, it that's fine
Starting point is 00:34:31 The the the really I don't know a thing that eases me into a warriors game is English voice acting honestly Even if it's not stellar, I think the voice acting is pretty good It kind of smooths the experience a bit. So I just don't feel like I'm playing muso. Yeah, you know what I mean Like the samurai warriors dynasty warriors style thing. Are there uh, as lana are their, um designs like equally as Like inserti or are they like they at least fire? No, they fit in really well. I find the the the the brother and the sister team That's the two main playable because I wouldn't have been as bothered by lana and sia if they looked like zelda characters
Starting point is 00:35:09 Yeah, they didn't but they completely don't but why does the new design for impa look like it fits the best It really does and even links. Well, they all do actually links Scarf as cool as it is and as we both own it. Yeah, it's not I could see I could see a main line. I could see a main line zelda doing that But then the scarf wouldn't just be a scarf. Yeah, it would be a special item It would be the the subtitle of the game, you know scarf of destiny. Yeah Yeah, fucking this cool scarf the spirit scarf, you know like some horse shape, but it would be a total thing Yeah, uh, so the first mission it has you do is like it's it's one of those
Starting point is 00:35:52 In media res things where it's a battle that took that's already bad happening And you you can just go to every room and there's a new fire emblem character So crom is right there and crom's like actually like really high up in fire element characters for me a fucking love crom And you just press down on the deep bat to switch to any hero that's like near you And i'm like oh fucking crom just you get you get as soon as you switch every character You get to see their super right then and the and like I didn't get to play I didn't have time to play It's a whole bunch. I played shows you they're super right away. Yeah, that's pretty smart two or three missions I played and just like the I'm not sure you've seen it
Starting point is 00:36:30 But like the super transitions where like the camera like goes from behind their back To in front of them then it zooms in to the the cutaway of their eyes Then smoothly goes back out then they perform the wrestling animation super like it's super slick Like it looks amazing whenever it happens and All I saw was a screenshot of uh, marth talking shit about crom Yeah Saying that despite despite what he looks like which is me Don't worry about noble blood or whatever the fucking i'm like
Starting point is 00:37:02 He's a slightly buffer version of you, but you're all the same you but cool there marth You're all the same Um, it's hyrule warriors that when I when I started here playing through it It felt like it and having just played warriors all stars, which Didn't I don't know what the differences are. I don't know what they do I don't know what nintendo what their input is when it's them, but it just automatically felt better and cooler Are they blatantly, uh, just putting together people from timelines and and generations that shouldn't exist I didn't get that far yet to find out what the exactly the
Starting point is 00:37:36 Entry was because it the main story happens in this new kingdom for this game And I assume it's it's holy like in zelda. It's dimensions. Yeah Warriors all stars it was dimensions, but it but I mean again I'm not that versed in fire emblem, but I do know that like it spans like again children's generations of children and marth and roy and elliwood and and icke and crom and You know all like all these characters like don't exist in the same span of 30 years of life I don't know Yeah, um
Starting point is 00:38:10 I think it'd be cool if like someone made a spell and then just shot a bunch of chains into the portal and just Yanked a fire emblem character out of the perspective Timelines would like I just want like steal them. Sure, you know can nap them almost. Yeah, that'd be fun I played that I played a beat him up that I had confused for another one. It was called viking something I remember seeing it was like line switching. It was it was like the guardian hero style You're on different planes or like cool Got that princess that Code of princess game
Starting point is 00:38:44 I thought it was like that, but I was like, no, this is a different beat him up altogether. It's called wolver blade And you mean so you're referring to the line system from garo densetsu. Well, I'm Legend of the hungry wolf in a beat him up style Yes, it is the line system from garo densets. Okay, but a wolver blade is is like, you know that that that uh early That early story of of the roman ninth legion going into like Ancient britain and there'd just be like the pikes this vicious group of like barbarians It was like britain's barbarian barbarians or maybe it was Scottish I that's where I get confused
Starting point is 00:39:24 But it was like this famous story about the ninth legion went there to go talk to there the barbarian king And this never came back and the ninth legion was super strong. Oh, no, I've seen movies of this. What happened to them Okay, exactly So this seems to be based on that where the Ancient romans are going into rustle up shit and you play as three characters a woman Big huge dude in like middle of the road guy and it's one of those beat him up. So it's very flash animated It's like, yeah Lots of squashy
Starting point is 00:39:56 Not as squashy as you think but if I show you a screen show you'd be like, oh, yeah Okay, I've seen that before maybe and I started playing it for a bit I'm like, yeah, this is okay Then just as I started to go like yeah, I'm gonna about about to turn this off It's like, oh you get this additional web like the y button on the the switch was unused I was pressing why nothing was happening Then I picked up a giant axe and then he then I started pressing y y like x and whatever Then he started doing some more combos and then it started going there. You have executions
Starting point is 00:40:24 Also, you can call in wolf strikers now. Okay, and I'm like, okay Um, and I had 2d. Yeah, I had oddly good voice acting And I had lore that you pick up like notes on the battlefield of this beat him up and then I'm like I'm not gonna uninstall this. What's it called again? Wolver blade like w u l v e r Wolfer, Wolfer blade, yeah So, yeah, I'll give that more of a go because I was just as I was starting to get like me
Starting point is 00:40:55 I was like, oh, there's some actual stuff here. It's not like a I saw like a fight and rage where it's all like crazy combos and juggling and canceling It's not on the surface. Yeah, but it was more than what I thought so I also went through the second episode of life is strange before the storm with Liam lift bits Very very strong second episode
Starting point is 00:41:19 Unfortunately, the game still actually doesn't have a thing It doesn't have we thought that maybe after the first episode they'd introduce some mechanic Like time rewind not not really because it can't because it's because it's people and it's not, you know But we thought there'd be something like there'd be some other supernatural element and there really isn't I I kind of assumed I was like remember like we talked about it But I was wondering I'm like, what are they gonna do with that and then It does like thinking like they might just tell the story normally. Yeah, and they are but They they did a weird thing in the first episode
Starting point is 00:41:53 They almost seemed to hint that someone has some type of power But after the second episode that doesn't seem to happen But the second episode has some great story beats the ending was very strong And like another three hour episode Like after coming off walking dead season three with its Amazing 53 minute long Episode like the fact that they are able to squeeze three hours out of this and a demon feel like you were squeezing I'm like, yeah those scenes were important that that part was cool
Starting point is 00:42:25 There's a whole section willy of the game where you have to be in William Shakespeare's The Tempest You told me and oh, you told you yeah, and remember your lines. Yeah, very very good sequence I was like that was pretty fun that and the the dnd thing sound like the Yeah, the dnd thing was the standout part of the first episode But like this was just because you had to look at where the tape was on the stage to know where you're supposed to stand So sad that like, you know, that's doing fun stuff and Over at telltale like it's just it's like it's been watered down to Like multiple seasons of things that are like, all right, I guess, you know
Starting point is 00:43:06 I mean, we had a we had an okay time with batman, but we had an okay time with batman Yeah, and I mean exactly and like batman is unfortunately at the end of the day closer to well, uh Game of thrones then it is to say to a season one walking day. Yeah, you know, and then What guardings of the galaxy you've played I haven't touched. It's not it's not really any different Um, I mean there are some differences, but they don't amount to anything meaningful. Yeah, it kind of feels like This is just the state that telltale is in unless
Starting point is 00:43:42 Someone really good comes in and writes the story. You know right now. I don't know of any I Tales of the borderlands is the only one that you bang on about it I've always been meaning to play it for a bit and I think that's because that universe affords them to be crazy And weird and different right? Yeah, and I don't want to over hype it because it's not the second coming So I it's just to stand out in a bunch of okay of okay to man at games And so that's why I saw I'm like, I'm think I'm gonna stop banging that drum Yeah, maybe because it's like, all right, we get it. It's good, you know, but like yeah, it's really it's not
Starting point is 00:44:17 It's just it's just very very good compared to the other shape If those rumors are true that they're making a 007 telltale game Um, like that will be interesting in the fact that james bond in video game form has just been this killing machine I'd like to be james bond where you talk your way out of things. I think that would be interesting that one different That would be but at this point don't not is about to Like remember this isn't don't not though. That's true. This is outsourced to other companies Yeah, I forget that it's name their work don't know. I was working on a proper sequel. Yeah, this is a thing. Yeah, you're right I completely but
Starting point is 00:44:52 Even in the framework of this being a prequel because some of the feedback the first episode was like What's the point of all this? Like we know what's going to happen and I'm like, yeah, it's true a bit But it's still being slightly more interesting than every telltale game that I've played recently Like it's still not to forget wolf among us, which is also very good and we'll get a second season Yeah, well, among us is good. Well, that's don't because it did because it had a much crazier universe And it did some interesting things like a few interesting things over the other telltale fair um
Starting point is 00:45:23 And really quickly I've been watching a show you might be interested in it called mine hunters Which is a very forgettable name. I remember there being a game or the uh movie Where there it was ll cool j and matt dillon or someone and it was called mine hunters And it was about people being connected. But anyway, it was a this lame action movie But yeah, that could either be like a h val kilmer. I want to say like that could be uh, uh, a netflix show or a shitty True true tv special. Yeah, that could be a million things But mine hunters I heard about it months ago and I was like what and then I forgot about it
Starting point is 00:46:00 And then I started watching I'm like, oh my god because the first two episodes directed by david fincher and I'm like Right, this is his fbi Profiling show in the 70s that takes place in the 70s that I heard about like a year ago and oh shit This is what it is finally I can watch it um Because I'd forgot about it because I was excited for initially and it basically is Here is the fulcrum point where the fbi decides we need to start making profiles of serial killers We need to start thinking about why they do what they do so that we can stop this
Starting point is 00:46:31 And they're being resistance in the fbi going no, that's bullshit. Just find who did modern show set in the 70s Yes, yes modern shows set in the 70s So charles manson has been caught Yeah, and they constantly talk about other serial killers and they interview them With like questionnaires and like try to push their buttons to get them to speak out like all right So why did you have that severed head and why did you make that severed head go down on you? Can you Explain that please to us. So, um, it's brilliantly acted. Um, it doesn't really have anyone particularly famous
Starting point is 00:47:07 It's fine more of a low-key cast like the the main girl from the the show fringes in it, I guess Uh, but it's like if you like, um, Hannibal Lecter if you like, uh, the the movie zodiac Which david fincher also did like it's just great great great drama and Uh, I can't really say much about it other than that. Um, it's 10 episodes and I'm like on I'm about to start the eighth one and uh, yeah highly recommended another big director makes his silver screen Transition because it's the only way to do it these days direct a few episodes of house of cards. I want to say david fincher Maybe I could be thinking of someone else you might be right. I think early on early on I think early on. Yeah, maybe erin sorkin. I don't know. Um
Starting point is 00:47:59 I also know yeah, I never finished the newsroom either. Yeah, I know I knew that I I don't think I know I don't know anyone who did but it starts really strong. Anyway, I did Uh, so yeah, that's really good. I highly recommend it cool, um All right With that, let's take a quick word from our sponsors spoonsers This week the podcast is spoon-serred by
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Starting point is 00:52:21 Check out world of warships today at command warships.com And uh start playing. Thank you world of warships. Thank you so much Let's get into the news two things before we get into the news one What type of fucked up situation would it have to have been for the uss enterprise to go back into the past and start blowing up us ships? They can't let these fuckers win it turns out the prime directive was the biggest mistake of all time Oh, no, we gotta stop this from happening. We have to have the anti prime directive Where we destroy everything as much culture as possible. I just imagine like, you know the the the starts of Star treks you've seen enough where it's just like the enterprise looks fully drifting. It's a star date. Whatever. Yeah
Starting point is 00:53:10 Imagine that imagine the same speed But it's shooting lasers in all directions as it's just sailing through the universe every light in the sky is an enemy Just like but it's still star date 2.5 We are continuing to smoke all motherfuckers In the galaxy engage engage engage fire torpedoes like the The enterprise of the bridge is constantly doing the shaking thing
Starting point is 00:53:45 The cards in his ready room and he's like Earl gray tea hot People are having sex on the holodack and they're like fire phasers You open up you open up time portals and just fire bullets into them You don't even go in through you just stick your hand in and start firing even in the nerdy science decks Where they're like studying life forms or whatever like little plants They're just like slowly dropping a little like bit of water with molecules into a thing very slowly they go fire torpedoes Fire phasers set all phasers to kill Just just gassing entire computers trying to process all these orders around them. Oh, dude, that's strong
Starting point is 00:54:32 Like the ultimate death machine The deep space nine just spinning and firing a constant beam It's like a schmup an endless laser that just spins and cuts everything Or they create this new enterprise. That's like the ichoruga. It's like switching polarities and shooting like different polarity thoughts and everything No, we're continuing to wipe the universe clean Oh Our five-year mission. Yeah, fuck them all
Starting point is 00:55:04 100 and billion 10 dead galaxies Uh The double final frontier Uh, let's let's get into the news. Yeah, there there there'd be news this week. Yeah Uh, all right. Let's well, let's check the front page of neogav Oh I like this rebranding. I like this new 505.com. They got going seems like uh, Seems kind of catchy. Yeah, I thought the gaming age forums was uh
Starting point is 00:55:38 Was a thing that would people kind of you know latched on to but uh, well, well, let's see here. What do we got right now? Yeah, what's the current? What's the status? Yeah Down for scheduled maintenance now, this is the longest scheduled maintenance neogav is ever had Hey, yeah, it's scheduled. It's yeah. No, this means always in the cards was planned Please be patient. What that one weekend in october. Who we got a bunch of scheduled maintenance coming up? Yeah There's really not much to say personally. I've never been a member. I've
Starting point is 00:56:17 I I know that it's a super useful thing that you guys, uh, browse the hell of a lot more than me Um, but it made many a testing day go by much faster. Yeah You know, so I mean I understand that there goes that useful gaming resources source Uh Though apparently for very good reasons. Yeah, because holy fuck Uh, whoo You know things are fucked up when just
Starting point is 00:56:48 Okay, I was on neogav like on a saturday or whatever this past saturday and I saw some weird threads pop up and I was like That really didn't understand or like care what was going on and really Yeah, some weird threads are popping up. All right, whatever Uh, then I come back like the next day like morning and I go and I see twitter and it says trending Neogav and I'm like Oh Then I read up about everything. I'm like, oh Okay, all right
Starting point is 00:57:19 Sure. Yeah, if only you could have applied that strict new user registration policy to your pants. Yeah You got one in the you got one in that's all I needed. That's all I needed Uh, let's check out what's happening on That you there's not much news this week because you can't go to neogav to look what's up No, I was gonna see I was gonna I was gonna talk about The the the fun the fun coming out of the company. Yes known as raw thrills Who I'm surprised you haven't just moved down to and applied to work at Because they seem to be doing everything you love these days. I have a follow-up thing to this
Starting point is 00:58:08 I you may not be aware of but the first thing is like, yeah I just saw on this website arcade heroes that they just had this Glorious looking flyer that talks about Power income woolly Strike up the profits motherfucker. I mean to be fair. I'll beat them up to be fair. It's uh, It's it's you know, they're not going as hard as they used to because I think but the fact that there's still a big From 90s arcade flyers So I think they know that people are seeing these publicly now
Starting point is 00:58:42 So it's caught on and as a result they're not being as blatant about it But they're going like hey check out the big hd screen full of yeah old ad Appeals to all ages, but also don't forget about your turtle power income though. You're gonna get lots of money if you buy this you guys I thought it'd be funny if it was like man. I love getting profits. Yeah, like I love being an arcade owner Profits on the half show Yeah, yeah So yeah, raw thrills makers of games like Jurassic park and cruising blasts tonight. I dine on profits Is making a ninja turtle uh beat them up for players
Starting point is 00:59:26 um, so They also put out a game an arcade game right now. That's in test not like widespread Injustice arcade. Yeah, so I've seen that which is a trading card thing with no, it's not a fighting game. I've seen I've seen Footage of that machine too and people are like well fuck this game. It's not a fighting game They're like well, it's that's fine because it's not made for fighting game crowd It's made for like people that like collecting cards and stats and superheroes and I was like, yeah So this uses apparently almost the exact same cabinet same speaker placement and all that But I'm glad because I look at this and there's joysticks and three buttons
Starting point is 01:00:04 And I'm like, yes, that's all I care about And while we don't have like direct screen direct feed screenshots or like videos of the game The one screenshot that's on the arcade cabinet. I'm like that looks like a beat them up I like that And yeah, this is gonna be this game is gonna be formally shown at an arcade Um I'm trying to get some information because I'm like, why am I not? Why am I not there? Why am I not attending the i a a pa convention?
Starting point is 01:00:34 Do you remember the old the international association of amusement parks? and What do you remember the old old arcade? Um, uh convention like back in the night and attractions a o u it would be like the arcade machine Yeah That was my below e3. Well for me. It was always jamma. Jamma too. Yeah, I forgot Jamma was where life happened life began at jamma dude and it ended and game pro would write about it
Starting point is 01:01:05 And that's that's why I loved game pro because they actually fucking had pages Dedicated to what was shown at jamma and that was the only place to find out about it I don't think jamma is a thing anymore. The japanese arcade machine Con basically or like trade show is that still a thing? I'm sure it's just smaller scale or it doesn't get much reported I would be surprised if a variant of it exists still but like um According to wikipedia It says I saw started in 1991
Starting point is 01:01:34 Yeah, okay, so in 2013 jamma began collaborating with a o u that's what I was thinking of and now they have a show called japan and he's in the tech So, yeah, there you go. That's fine So The actual ninja turtle arcade machine like it looks like the cabinet looks amazing and all three corners All three corners all four corners of the of the joysticks and like your turtle collars You know, it's nice that they're sticking with like a
Starting point is 01:02:02 Version of the turtles and they haven't shifted to a new look again Because I saw some people complaining that the Nickelodeon thing's on the way out like it's it had its last season Everyone's like, well, why are you using this thing? It's over. But but but okay So what else are you supposed to do because I'm like back once upon a time Even after the ninja turtle show was done A ninja turtle still looked like a ninja turtle Yeah, right this idea that we'd have to switch to a new art style like based on the 2000s show that came out and then perhaps another version like I'm like
Starting point is 01:02:33 We don't need to reboot the look every time because there's a ninja turtle comic that's based on this style It's more for kids. But then there's the more adult older comic. That's a different art style Yeah, so there's like a million There's literally a million art styles But like I've always been fine with the Nickelodeon look for them And if you want to appeal to the widest range, I don't think you're gonna offend anybody greatly with that was designed So those are not the fucking Michael Bay movie designs. I don't think anyone's gonna be angry. Well, here's the thing, right? You have three versions from the famous from tv. Yeah, you have
Starting point is 01:03:06 Two versions from the movies Yeah, yeah, and you've got like 80 versions from video games and and comics. Well comics Yeah, you've got all comics You've got original and then like depends on the artist then is the archie ones There's a million right but but but right but uh, and archie was kind of like the old show, you know but um My point was that video games always had Fucking a different look a different style per game, right?
Starting point is 01:03:33 Like the person the company making the game if it was not licensed from like Nickelodeon or Someone else that was involved. They'd be like basically make your own turtle designs. Okay Well, I don't give this out to for free too many. I mean give this idea for free. Okay. Okay. Okay. What you got? What you got should be called turtles forever And every level you jump into the new art style You jump into black and white so Video game version of turtles forever. Yes to show absolutely 100 percent 100
Starting point is 01:04:05 Like hire me a thousand percent whoever. Yeah wasted Now turtles forever is like 10 years old now. Yes still also turtles forever still like the funnest thing you can ever watch It's the best thing digit turtles ever created by man uh, here's the here Only potential issues from a licensing pov. There's probably some stuff that the Nickelodeon Brand can't do maybe perhaps because this is Nickelodeon's Ninja Turtles. Yeah, yeah, sure So they maybe only have control over that but you're right
Starting point is 01:04:35 You're right Their 100% should be a turtles forever video game. Um, I did read a few I think in the main thread of this article did say stuff like um You know, this is this is uh, gonna be a beat them up We want to expand upon a little bit so there's gonna you can even see it a bit in the screen Shut the fuck up. What turtles forever. Yes when you jump into different levels You've got some levels to play like the nest game. You've got some levels to play like turtles in time You've got some levels to play like, uh, uh, well, what else do you want to play?
Starting point is 01:05:05 I was gonna say Yeah, well, I was gonna I like where your heart was though. What was the other company rocksteady? No, we're not rocksteady What was the other company? Konami made the ones based on the 2000 out of out of the shadows That sucked It's a real bad. Okay. Well the iconic ones turtles in time and Uh, uh, uh, the other not turtles in time. Uh, man, uh, manhattan project. Manhattan project. Yeah, that was those You play. Oh, the nes version is just the fucking lake damn stage paying homage to those
Starting point is 01:05:43 While doing the that could be cool. It would be fun. I could see that. Yes, uh, that it says this game is going to use a lot of environmental interaction Tournament fighters you have a fighting game stage Uh, so I'm looking forward to this. I'm gonna freak out if I if I see it I really hope it's good And it looks like it looks better than fucking re-shelled. I like how colorful it is and whatever re-shelled is just like the worst Yeah, we need we need we need some footage though right now We're just looking at a how to strike up the profits poster what sucks about a new arcade machine is that you'll never get direct feed footage
Starting point is 01:06:17 No, almost never you have to you have to we're gonna wait for this arcade show to happen And some guy's gonna put his iphone in front of the the cabinet when I when I when I was in Amsterdam And I was playing that Batman racing game. Yes, you know, I'm also made by raw thrills Yeah, I'm like, let me capture as much of this as I can because this is it. Yeah, and this game is incredible Um, yeah, again raw thrills seems to be like Where matt would go to close out his his career Before a retired my twilight years. Yeah, I would I wouldn't even mind Fucking make cruising games. I'll be there. Do do your uh, your
Starting point is 01:06:53 Do your sunset sabbatical. Yeah. Yeah. We're sunsetting matthew mcmuscle's right now into the raw thrills family. There you go So, yeah, I like how kotaku's article on this like Reference my freak out on twitter. Oh, I was wondering why you sent me a kotaku link Someone sent it to me and I was like, oh, shit. They did that. Uh, what'd they say? No, all they did is re-quote my tweet just saying like I ever wise if I got a drill Okay, that's it We've also got in the news Um
Starting point is 01:07:28 The first list of backwards compatible xbox 360 games any things that strike your fancy here Well, let's take a look. We've got black everyone. Everyone's a fan of black. Yeah We've got blood rain too. Yes always been meaning to high up there get around to that I wrote I wrote twitter day. Yeah blackthorne too. Everyone's like, well, what about nights of the old republic? I'm like, don't worry. This is better than nights of the old Crimson skies legitimately a great super good fun Dead to rights actually is like Wow
Starting point is 01:08:04 Why wow fusion fucking frenzy it will be released on every xbox console ever just in case you needed it You needed xbox is branded. Uh, uh, what should we call it? Uh Mario party Mario party Grabbed by the ghoulies grab by the ghoulies is fucked up because you can play that on rare replay on On the rare replay game on xbox one. I said at xbox 360. I misspoke. I meant to say xbox original what yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, so for those that are confused these like the xbox one will get an update that if you just put these Original discs It'll just work they'll play and they'll play at higher resolutions with better clarity and they're free
Starting point is 01:08:48 I was saying to willy in a twitter message about this. I'm like, remember we had that debate where when george was on the podcast And uh, leon was talking we're all talking about like the how the ps4 was doing backwards compatibility How the xbox one was doing back then and we were like, well, I mean the xbox one all backwards compatibility is free you don't have to Pay like five ten dollars for all these ps2 games and we're all going back and forth on it And the kind of over under was the ps4 games the ps2 ones Released on ps4. We're getting little updates I think some of them getting trophies and they were getting increased resolutions and such
Starting point is 01:09:27 And now these are coming out and these are all free and even if you don't own them You can buy them if you want if you own the original version now These are free and also getting these resolution updates. I'm like You know, it's not to say that it's the most important facet of a games console But like the one thing I think microsoft is doing better than sony right now is backwards compatibility, dude It's it's a perfect solution. The only problem with this is That it sucks for people who got rid of their discs. Yeah Who a lot of I don't know what the fee is to get these again if you don't own the discs though
Starting point is 01:10:00 Yeah, no, there is a fee if you don't own a lot of people definitely got rid of their old green boxes, you know and whatnot I can't blame them But all I all I can say is like I'm a fan of the don't sell it. Fuck you Approach because it's never worth it and you might want to go back for some reason never know And now that this is unless you've already done a video on the game Then you could throw it out. Sure. Sure. Sure. So yeah, grab by the ghoulies. Did you got them black? Uh, yeah, prince prince of sands of time would be soft release the new Hey prettier than ever
Starting point is 01:10:35 Yeah, that's true. The good one psychonauts, which is a nice Touch red faction 2 sit my pirates co-tour Yay Are you gonna play this now on this version? Yeah likely because it Removes a lot of obstacles. Yeah that I had. All right. Um And the king of fighters neowave because you Fuck is that about
Starting point is 01:11:03 What are you doing? No, shut up. Why are we doing this? What's for the for the for the for the eagle the eared ears and shut up and you will eat What is the what is the actual problem with neowave for everyone because no one knows what this is The king of fighters neowave is the game that was made on the atomis wave system. Yes as the test bed for Nothing when they got The test bed for them leaving. Um, well s and k not be an s and k anymore. Uh, yeah, well, they were they were leaving They were no, no, this was it was but yeah, no no play more as the whole thing. This was in the in the it
Starting point is 01:11:44 God Beyond the dead years right in the doldrums beyond the dead years. There was the point in time when Uh, kof was uh, I want to say just coming off of 2003 three three. Yes coming off of 2003 and But way before 11 Exactly and uh, they were switching over to the atomis waves engine. Thomas wave was
Starting point is 01:12:09 Very good for 11 when they figured out how to do things and all that but the sacrifice the war gods Was king of fighters neowave. Yeah a shitty ass piece of shit bad game That just got dumped with a bunch of old sprites. If you still own your disc You can play on xbox one x the all-in-one entertainment system with some of the weirdest fucking systems and oh Oh, man, we should do a fucking physical for now Now that you said that and all that weird artwork from um, oh, yeah, I remember that what's his name? Dude that did the art for um battle coliseum. Yes. Yes. Like I forget his name, but yes him. Yeah There's oh, and that's when it was being published by ignition
Starting point is 01:12:56 KOF games. Yeah um Sammy because atomis wave was sammy's engine. That's how that's what that was I love the neowave logo is bigger than the king of fighters logo. I don't I don't know Again, they had to test it. They had to figure it out somehow God bless god bless them. They got they got to a good place. Yeah, they got to a good place So you can you can go play that If you have a physical disc of KOF neowave want to get
Starting point is 01:13:27 Where does KOF start here? Really? Yeah, like I feel like if you send me a caught a photo You know Hold up neowave while doing a thumbs up and have your name written at the bottom And and and and and staring at this episode of the podcast On your on your monitor or on your phone And uh, I don't know then will you I'll you I'll hit you with a retweet and you get a retweet off that No context. All right
Starting point is 01:14:02 amazing So, yeah, I'm uh when they like some of those games I'll be interested to pop in like I have a copy of The dead to rights and blood rape to an injured guy in black and and uh sands of time I'd like to pop that and just see what it looks like. So I hope they add I I hope they Because regular uh 360 backwards compatibility is pretty good now. They already like I think they have over something like 200 titles So I hope that they keep up with uh, like a pace like what was that like What 15 games 14 14 13 13 if that happens every couple of months, then you know good on you I am shocked that you didn't throw black to the top of that list. I hate black
Starting point is 01:14:42 Oh God, I remember sitting black black is cool to shoot around for a few minutes, but it's an actual not fun game I remember sitting in your parents house Shooting a wall for an hour waiting to see what would happen. Yeah, I didn't remember the answer was nothing Anyway, black had it's had a had a fun idea, which is like let's take the cinematic crashes and and style of burnout let's put it in a Shooting game, but they're like, oh fuck. We fucked up and we took too long We have no story just film a bunch of actors in shadow
Starting point is 01:15:19 And just like it's the worst fucking story and like there's just no identity to the game. You're just basically gun Your main character is gone. Right. Okay. Okay Uh, I'd rather play red faction too Red faction two even has the same type of type of technology being able to shoot through a lot of stuff But the eye but black but they never made the claim That you could stand there and shoot across the planet I think they did because you can in red faction. Yeah, but like that's what I mean But I mean they pretty much went like amazing unparalleled destructible. Whatever. Yeah, but like black's whole thing about like no
Starting point is 01:15:55 You can just shoot a hole through the planet. Yeah, or maybe i'm exaggerating. Maybe that's not what they said But but they said something really like oh a mollin. You ask yeah about planting a seed and letting it grow type of thing I remember this having a moniker that'll make your eyes roll out of your skull I remember on a on a on a press release or a Game magazine. It said black the everything killer. Oh, wow Wow Yo, it killed fucking nothing Except itself. Maybe black is gonna make you its bitch. Yeah, exactly
Starting point is 01:16:34 Jesus Anyway, uh, well speaking of good ideas, um We brought up the fact that Resi rev is coming to the switch, but it looks like it's not coming alone There's some fun little eight-bit Adventures coming along with it. Yeah, the port of resini will revelations won Which I have no desire to play again honestly
Starting point is 01:16:59 But uh, yeah, it's got these weird eight-bit games. One of them looks exactly like ghosts and goblins, but you're very burden Well, I mean right now i'm watching this this little basic ass Shooter and I mean this is really just dark side chronicles again If you think about it Yeah, sort of but all we all we're missing is occasionally a little a little a pylon like a parking pylon that drops Down the screen like your zombies. You shoot it and you get facts about the umbrella Company scroll down a bit and and there's this one Uh ghosts ghouls and homunculi
Starting point is 01:17:37 That's pretty strong. All right I think you play as berry burn the sprite sure looked like him After his daughter is kidnapped by an unidentified strike team Barry follows them to the island not found on any map Can he make it past the hordes of monsters to save his little girl? So yeah, you play as berry burden, but you're playing ghosts and goblins congratulations to the fun devs that came up with this that Probably did so unapproved Bye bye. It's too late. We already put it in the game unapproved by public buy by cavco
Starting point is 01:18:10 By biz dev This kind reminds me of remember the dark void game that d make that was a good. Yeah dark boy zero Yeah, that was like the best thing that came out of dark void. Yeah, so it's similar to that No, this is like this is not games as a service What are you doing? Should we cancel this? Oh, it's it's coming out tomorrow Should we cancel this? It's not games as a service I don't know if I ever told you about when I went into the meeting room where
Starting point is 01:18:40 The biggest of wigs at At at very large wig. They're very large wigs at at at old old strike stomping grounds Came in to talk about the new philosophy of games of a service and how we need to move and this is years ago Yeah, every yeah, how we need to move everything in that direction And like you could hear Liam in my eyes rolling in our heads Like you could hear you can hear liam's eyes rolling in your head. You could hear it. You could hear the It was sand liam's and it was just like this is yep
Starting point is 01:19:15 This is this is what it is. It's all about the gas and that was at a time where it wasn't even really Feasible yet. No one knew how to nail it Well, everyone knew that the company's doing it right didn't even know what they were doing right What they started it and like they're looking at things like big hits like league and any online game You know and just going like oh my god. Yeah, they invented a thing without knowing they're striking it hot We need to emulate that and we need to move away from Single-player stories single player and or even multiplayer stories. Yeah. Yeah, you know We need to move away from purchasing a video game that you are then finished with
Starting point is 01:19:52 No, and we need to get back here and play. Yeah, you know and and and it just really like And honestly, I'm finally games as a service for like two or three big games a year But I don't like everyone like if everyone tries to be the same thing Then no one is anything the problem with the phrase games as a service is that it encapsulates The fact that this is now the goal that your company is working towards It's no longer Like a thought that comes from having a good idea for a multiplayer game. Yes, it's no longer a thought that is like Natural because you're like, yeah
Starting point is 01:20:30 Well, this is about A bunch of players getting dropped on an island shooting each other and surviving and you play for a while You play online and thus naturally you're going to be coming back to this and you only play online We're going to add new things every so often and therefore things. Yeah, so it kind of serves like it acts as a service Like it's not like incidental It's just that it's now like like overwatches the games as a service basically now as well But but but the difference between you know, like just like releasing it because it's what it's okay Like what the best design for the game is versus putting this up above your fucking company's headline
Starting point is 01:21:03 Yeah, you know in in time you you know, like don't don't forget You're here forever Right, just imagine in the offices every cubicle has games as a service Paste it up above it because nothing is going to get through creatively. That is not Uh Using that as a as a as a design philosophy Yeah, and anything that would get through and gets mutated Yeah to include that as much as possible
Starting point is 01:21:30 And we saw that in a bunch of the projects came that came out of at that time Even games that are still a single player experiences and the one right now is fucking shadow of war more door more for Like let's make it games as a service, but it's still a single player thing So let's put all this bullshit in it that doesn't need loot boxes whatever Uh, and it doesn't really like plague said last podcast. It's like I beat the game without any of that shit So it was just bolted on for nothing bolted on because we think we need it, but we actually really don't I mean, I always go back to this even happens like years ago Like why why doesn't sassus creed come out every year or it used to because call of duty came out every year
Starting point is 01:22:11 Look how much money you can make and oh, yeah But I always go back to you know, what's better than killing yourself and stretching your franchise thin and getting really really a lot of fatigue either like via the entire Gaming gaming populations perception of it. Yeah Is when you fucking drop one mic Every six years or so and you fucking blow it up Oh, are you saying when you'd be the daniel day lewis of the video game industry when you be the grand theft auto daniel day lewis
Starting point is 01:22:45 Yes, exactly because fucking gta 5 comes out Like is the biggest selling thing ever then over the course of like two three years Slowly xbox one ps forward and slowly huge multiplayer suite and you and you fucking actually dominate you You are the absolute winners Because by the time another gta comes out, you're gonna sell maybe more as last time like where's like all gta's and and uh, sorry all Assassin's creeds and call of duties and whatever they sell less every time This just in daniel day lewis spotted this just in daniel day lewis is gone You say that on the day that the trailer for his movie drops. Here's eight awards. He just won. Yeah
Starting point is 01:23:31 I'm gonna retire. I'm gonna retire again. See you in a decade. Yes. See you all in a decade. Look, um, I'm gonna think about what I can say here, but uh what Yeah, okay I watched A project that like you all are familiar. You you all saw Yeah, at this point it would pretty much anyway. Blah. Sorry. I'm just going through. Yeah, no I can see the wheel
Starting point is 01:23:58 But you are like you I watched a large Scale project large major triple a single player adventure Uh, that happened to just be that Eventually expand and include a multiplayer for fun And then have the single player entirely scrapped and the multiplayer become the only thing Yes, and then that budget and then that thing becomes An actual focus and they go this is the part of this Project that we're going to focus on and push because this is the part that we can make a surface
Starting point is 01:24:32 Yeah, and so we're just going to hold on to this multiplayer shell That means nothing without the giant single player campaign that was supposed to come with it and surprise surprise no one gave a fuck and then Time to close that down like seconds after it came out and you know, it was just the the Living application of this but it doesn't matter because it's worth trying again and again and again because when you strike it once You strike it for years. Yeah, and the money's too good But like it's it's it's more we need to make money now and constantly
Starting point is 01:25:08 Like I guess, you know me saying like Grand Theft Auto must have cost way more than any other game of recent memory You know maybe metal gear fan and pain or whatever So I can assume that a lot of publishers can't afford to just you know Twiddle their thumbs and wait for a product to be developed over the course of five years I I realize that people can't do that But like with certain franchises you certainly can't like ubisoft could certainly do that with the sassus creed now They have enough other products coming out
Starting point is 01:25:37 They give milk tom clancy's bloated corpse for as long as they want really And just wait until certain things are ready to be like have that have an actual air of Anticipation around them and it worked for me for a sassus creed origins But you and other people are still like I'm still good like it needs even more like for Some people still needs even more time in the background until it can come out to a After a certain point where it can actually excite you again. That lots Cheryl's pretty hot. Sorry that lots trailer is okay I've got because you know a few months ago. You're like, yeah, it looks okay. I'm sure it was pretty hot But yeah, well, it's just you know take whatever opinions you have of like
Starting point is 01:26:19 Someone who's high up in Whatever video game company that's like we want to make and continue to make these games And then take uh all the producers that are like just their job is to look at After driving all their ferraris through strip clubs. They decide. Oh shit We need to make more And then echo them their voices with all the investors Who are the same people whose transcripts you can see in the nintendo investors meeting which is painful. They're Basically children. Yes with lots of money. Yeah, and
Starting point is 01:26:51 Take those voices and then like embody those Into a producer who has to come in and then basically or a publisher. I should say yeah who comes in and decides how things are gonna go Um It's not going away. It is what it is And that's just the state of the industry and it makes more sense for them to Continue trying to take a thing you might know the name of Make it a service type game that can last for the next five years or so If continued income then to make a take a risk on a thing
Starting point is 01:27:19 Making a giant single-player adventure and then have it bomb because the people making the game didn't know how to make it Good enough, but then you'll you know, it's almost a self. Sorry. It's almost a self-correcting um Position based on the fact that company sees that they've released Bombs, right? Yeah, not everything catches. No some things get niche, but for the most part. They're trying to get that huge huge Initial boom And they're seeing lots of bombs it becomes it's almost a self-correcting behavior to be like well We might as well
Starting point is 01:27:53 Bomb in a way that like if we do hit It can make up for it by can by like really raking it in continuously every month Then being a single one-off that then disappears Well, it's it's like one of those weird anomalies that happen on the ds. Maybe sometimes the weed depending, but it was like Let's release a bunch of call of duties on every platform And it's like let's release a call of duty on the ds who cares just fucking release it That version goes on to sell a million copies Like the version that you spent zero money on what's the most successful skew of street fighter 4 of all time?
Starting point is 01:28:31 3ds Because it's sold consistently Over the course of like two three years. Yep And like that that is the actual that's where you won actually You spent the least amount of money on that version, but you somehow made the most people that have a 3ds going well Yeah, I guess I want to see I want to see these little dioramas move around. Yeah Yeah I was gonna say you know, it's like the weird
Starting point is 01:28:56 Anti-behavior of this where there's a little bit of pushback and I hope companies that do kind of just go Oh, fuck this just games as a service just make whatever I have what I have a good one But yeah is is star wars battlefront. Okay that game comes out and it's fine There's nothing to do really there is a minuscule amount of content, but it looks great and plays okay There was some bits of dlc that were added But it sold so well because it came out right when force awakens came out and just generally star wars games sell pretty good depending Um, then there's all this pushback going. You know, what would be cool for a star wars game star wars? Like a story or like characters something to rally around
Starting point is 01:29:39 I know other battlefront games in the past the old ones didn't have much of a story if they did I didn't play them all but now we're getting this like massive like five to seven hour Single player story mode at top of all these new multiplayer modes heroes across everything like that is the I did not buy battlefront And when I played it a bit from a shim episode. I was not impressed by battlefront, but this one I'm like, do I want to play as darth mull? fight fighting uh Fighting ray
Starting point is 01:30:10 Or fin. Yeah, I do Do I want to play as this like like new um New story within like the the the the new universe of force awakens in the last jedi. Of course I do Why wouldn't I so that's where I'm going in and like I'm I'm going to assume that's going to sell way better than the first one A because it's the sequel and b it's actually has more of the things We want if it was just called like space guys Yeah, it could have been a multiplayer thing But the fact that you're coming off a huge cinematic universe with a lot of storytelling
Starting point is 01:30:42 I mean, I'm still like always a mistake to not have a story remote. Yeah, I still feel that like I don't know Maybe a part whatever. I feel like a bit a little bit duped in that I was they when they said like Oh, no, this is going to be black battlefront was going to be the platform for star wars And oh, yeah, one game duped and then this is it and then when the next game a movie comes out The dlc But it's all going to be here on this And the idea that they're going to just hold on to that and work with it for a while like a rock band Thing yeah, was uh, I thought that I was just naive for thinking they might not be lying about
Starting point is 01:31:14 Yeah, I I'd like to think that they'll they'll do that. I hear you but like I like I was on the first game hoping that that was going to be the case type of thing. Yeah, so What are you going to do? Um, you don't get to play as darlin Well, I mean I played as bubble fat. I played as vader. I played as Yeah, the vr x-wing pilot. I had a good time. Okay Did you did you spend any time with the first game? Yeah, okay, because It was pretty fun. Yeah. No, nothing wrong with the way it played, but I was like That's it. Yeah
Starting point is 01:31:51 No, it is nice though. You're all right. That is a good thing I with the other good thing fighting back and I can't find the fucking picture It was really cool. It was just a collection of images Of like the highest rated Games releases on open critic Of the year and there are all these single player indie games You know God
Starting point is 01:32:17 You know what? I can't think of anything the more opposite of a games of the service then fucking cuphead. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah No, for sure for sure. Um And it was just like it was just a giant list of like and and then people made like image markers of stuff of like Thank you for still releasing not you Single player games, you know and whatnot like yeah, it's nice to know that you know They're still giant awesome games that are doing really well That are fantastic that are going to be coming out because indie developers are putting out whatever the fuck they want. Yeah, you know So, uh, yeah, that's that's uh
Starting point is 01:32:56 That's the one silver lining I suppose but as far as like larger major Things go it's a world of Gas it's a world of loot boxes. It's a world of You know you saw many buys you saw. I'm not sure we talked about initially when it happened But you saw that metric that uh blizzard put out in may of this year
Starting point is 01:33:19 I think they updated it since but it couldn't really find a follow-up article to it You see how much money they made just on loot boxes for overwatch blizzard. Yeah, no You want to take a stab throughout a number? Like like just what I need to know is not the number But I need to know how much more than sales of the game itself infinitely more. Yeah, okay Like still want to throw out a number god. Don't say like a billion a billion billion dollars in loot boxes Jesus fucking christ. I think they updated it since oh, wow. That's a lot. Okay You know, yeah, when a company says we made a billion dollars on these shitty sprays. Yeah
Starting point is 01:34:03 You know, no, it was it was I was and I was I was uh, Misremembering it wasn't just indie games. It was like it was just like Yes, like like props and proper titles too as well But it was like thank you Neo and near and persona and zelda Exactly like all the bagers huge single-player games that came out, you know fucking Horizon zero dollar and those really came out this year like all that cool shit that came out around You know, january to like
Starting point is 01:34:30 April that that I think it was march when we are or april when we were just panicking Looking at looking at too many games to buy and whatnot around around zelda's time exactly um, yeah, when a company says we made a billion dollars off these Random gifts. Yeah, like every other company who are fuck you who are you to say no? I'm not gonna do that Yeah, yeah. Yeah. No, no, it's just it's charlie day Look at like like it like you're standing around pointing at the board and everyone's like, but we don't want to he's like A billion dollars It's just a billion dollars
Starting point is 01:35:05 What are you gonna do not do that? But you are at the same time you're fucking blizzard Yeah, and you have a bunch of waifus and husbandos like that doesn't work But when you're not blizzard or but when you're not blizzard, right and then someone stands up and goes We we don't want to do that. We have some really good ideas. Thank you kindly pack up your things Yeah, your box in the or or she didn't like Or he just gets up on the table and cuts off his head like boston aca And says as your leader, I know that you might have like find reasons to question my logic
Starting point is 01:35:43 Please talk to me in an open way and I allow me to convince you That loot boxes are the way we're gonna go the price And if you bring up a single player or stories I collect your fucking head Just like this And it's amy hennings head Oh man, it's visceral. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and everyone else is like Oh
Starting point is 01:36:15 Fuck yeah, so if you do you have that there just in general you want to talk about like blizzard just Fuck uh, sorry ea just Shutting down visceral games and taking their big you can take you take that one I was just gonna say like that was always a game in the back of my mind I'm like battlefront is fine everyone that wants multiplayer stuff. There you go Dead have fun with that. We have a big huge single player stuff after star wars 1338 or whatever the fuck that was Remember that one. They got canceled. Yeah 1313 1313. Hey, well, we always have this To go back on and yeah, they didn't outright cancel it. They're moving it to
Starting point is 01:36:57 God, it was such weird nomenclature that they use in the press release or like this company ea vancouver was already working on it So we're gonna take what visceral We need to what was it swing the pendulum to another focus? And everyone assumes although jason schreyer Said like uh, yeah, they didn't they didn't cancel it or move it away from visceral because it was a single player only experience They moved it away because it was being a disaster apparently internally. It was a disaster. I don't know But still man visceral like I always kind of felt Like they're gonna be shut down because they haven't released a product and how and I don't know how long since dead space three
Starting point is 01:37:38 Dante's and Furno, I don't even know the last game that they actually fully made. I think they worked on some call the duties. I don't know Uh, sorry metal of honors or battlefields. I don't fucking care. Hey da like The ea has shut down a lot of great companies that they purchased none of them A lot of them meant certain things to certain people for the games that they used to make but like none None of the the companies. Well, they did shut down criteria on makers of burnout. That's true. Well, here's the thing right because I I generally uh Haven't let me let me go back and think but I don't think I've really played visceral games at all really because I didn't
Starting point is 01:38:18 Well, it's it's the dead space games and Dante's inferno Exactly and beyond that you're they were just used to be ea redwood, right? Yes So here's the thing is I that's what that's what's the only thing that's a bit weird I'm different about this story is that like, you know, I there's been a lot of sentiment of like if you get bought by ea It's where you go to die, right? Don't let no one's gotten out Right. No one got unbought don't buy it Don't get bought by ea because your company will just get shut the fuck down when they're done with you
Starting point is 01:38:49 Yeah, they'll use you for this for whatever you're good for drain you out and then toss your husk like right now The only the only outside company I know is like dice dice has been fine for like Decades or something but As far as I know or knew Based on talking to people that work there and then from obvious public history. I mean ea Rather visceral didn't get bought by ea. It was ea. No, no, it's true It was just one of their internal studios Branding themselves that called themselves visceral games and so it ended up being branded separately
Starting point is 01:39:26 And feeling like it wasn't a studio that was from ea like they are like ea always 100 owned it Yeah, they used to be called ea redwood exactly So this is what's a bit different here is it wasn't like they got bought and shut down. It wasn't a a fucking mollinue. Uh, what was it? Uh Linehead, uh, yeah type situation. This was just thanks for many of that I forgot that they're ea redwood. This was just a company that was already ea internally, you know It's like capcom shutting down studio five ea redwood made some of the latter james bond games that ea had published It was just I remember the logo and he did the bonathon for much with love everything or nothing
Starting point is 01:40:06 Yeah, and those were like good bond games and then like I think after that a bunch of sims shit Everything or nothing. Uh, sorry for martial with love was like 2005 2006. Maybe send right after that Maybe two years later like dead space came out and then the battlefield stuff. Yeah Um, but no that that's so so it does it does but like that's one thing that it was just that um It's not the same as like Oh nice, we've got we you know, we we got bought so we don't have to worry about shit and then we got fucking tossed It was it's not another one of those classic stories as much as it is ea just Like dissolving their own because it's it's the risk award of oh, we're we're covered by this huge corporation
Starting point is 01:40:46 So we're good. We don't have to fight for everything that we get. Yeah, you do have to fight for survival in a completely different way But generally speaking, you know, like the the difference between the companies they get bought is that like Those ones are usually founded by people trying to get away from the bullshit Yeah, and then you know like it comes up and catches them anyway because you did too good And then someone writes you a check that's like You know, there's once too many zeros for you to say no to You know based on the lights currently blinking in the office
Starting point is 01:41:18 If you get bought by nintendo though for some reason even if you don't put out games for years and years retro You're just okay for some reason. I don't know I bet you I bet you it's because they're just doing like internal testing shit. You know what I mean They're doing they're doing some weird Non-game related. I can't think of like software for for fucking medical devices or something. You know, I don't know There has to be an example nintendo buying a company and then just a Shuddering I can't think I know that if you leave nintendo like silicon knights did it doesn't really work out in the end
Starting point is 01:41:54 Unfortunately for them unless you're clover and you become seeds and then you become platinum What do you mean was that to do with anything like leaving nintendo? But like yeah, but like leaving capcom was totally fine for example Like are you saying are you saying nintendo specifically or just big companies nintendo specifically? Yeah, okay, but but I mean to be fair They got their company shut down then they had to start over again with their own capital a naba. Yes, true So it is a little bit different. It's not like they just rebranded the name on their front door. Yeah And you know same thing for fucking
Starting point is 01:42:36 Ludens Did seeds put out a game? No, never nothing They just instantly rebranded to platinum like two months later. They Seeds, no, it was it was it was a little longer. It was longer than that I remember because I was like, oh the flower the clover flower is now seeds. Oh cool But they never put out a game and they just rebranded they put out a logo logo, right? They put out a logo and I forgot about it. See everyone forgot about seeds I didn't because I was like it's like a clover flower
Starting point is 01:43:05 And I was I was a little bit bummed. Okay. I'm not gonna lie I was very bummed when the name platinum games first came out I think I remember this conversation I was like where you're like that has nothing to do with that's so un-Japanese like we're fucking platinum Exactly, you know because platinum is the it's a very like yeah over the top Exactly. It's American. It's a very American. It's very hip-hop. It's not a thing that you really just shout out meekly You know what I mean? Yeah, so I remember and I was like that's very different from the aesthetic of the fucking the clover league, you know
Starting point is 01:43:45 So I was like It doesn't matter, but it does. Yeah, but anyway, um Whatever it eventually, you know, it sold me what the jingle Platinum never loses its luster Motherfuckers because that's a bit of Japanese Motherfuckers you got me you got me in I fucking bought it um Yes, sad. I hope that star wars games comes back and if I swear if it has loot boxes though, then it was all for nothing
Starting point is 01:44:17 What did we fight for? Uh, um, anyway, um So This one is just for me right now. Okay, but um, they also I'll support you They announced. Well, actually you should be happy with this because it's switch news the biggest fucking deal ever Oh, uh shin megami tense a five proper announced for this this Is the reason why?
Starting point is 01:44:46 um What this is the best thing to come from the switch like type of uh idea of philosophy Okay, what was that the whole bringing together handheld and And uh, whatever console shit whatever because I like smt4 came out on fucking, uh, uh 3ds But I don't feel like smt4 like but like they would not have put that on the we you, you know Probably not so so if they're smart So finally we can get like them doing the same type of thing where they're like, yeah
Starting point is 01:45:22 Let's make another one in the same way we did for but now it's a proper system So it can look amazing and sound amazing and have a real fucking uh, uh, uh budget And like look a lot better than you know the four did which four was still a phenomenal game But at the end of the day it was a 3ds game and there was like there was a really brief trailer for this That showed a little bit of footage. It did looks fucking great Yeah, I saw it going through the the the uh, uh metro tunnels and seeing uh dead Um, uh dead onies and and personas on the ground of personas that demons on the ground Yeah, oh that that's gonna get some that's good
Starting point is 01:45:57 Bang bang pu pu pu pu pu fire back Anyway, dead dead, uh demons on the ground. It's it's, uh, absorb the bullets looks incredible. Um Nothing else to say beyond holy fuck. I can't wait You know four was incredible me not knowing much about like I know more about persona than shimmygani intense I but like I was like, wow, this is a numbered sequel though So I'm sure that is like a bigger deal because for a long time this project was called uh smthd Yeah, that's all it was known at isn't I I assume like much like a many people probably is this is just like a port of an older game, maybe it's just uh
Starting point is 01:46:36 SMT-4 for the switch which guess what you would have been fine way. It would have been really cool I wouldn't had any problems there but So, you know like when someone asks for something stupid from nintendo like a Like a cool thing that would never ever happen Like oh, they should release like a fucking halo game or there should be like a brand new exclusive granted like stuff that would never happen You know I never ask for that stuff from nintendo because I've I've been beat enough to know that it's not gonna happen
Starting point is 01:47:09 Yes, but there's certain things. I'm like why not this could like make money People miss this and they've already done a mario kart eight deluxe. Yep Why isn't uh fucking fire emblem cross? Uh smt Why isn't fates? Why does that not have a switch hashtag ff? Yeah, why did they not get a switch port? Six months ago Like so many people have talked to like awesome. Whatever is like this is actually one of the best rpgs
Starting point is 01:47:38 I've played like this is as good as any persona game, but so many people were like, I don't know what this is I'm confused. I'm not gonna play. It was it was released on the cusp It was literally the last game. I think it came out You can't you can't do that without talking about a port and it seems like they must have discussed it and said No Sure, but that's where I get frustrated over nintendo. I'm like you have to explain why Everyone missed out on this thing even I had I have the game. I have Hashtag fates in my wii u that I haven't turned on in like a year. Yeah
Starting point is 01:48:17 I just never started it up because I'm just like no, this is dead system. I don't feel like It's because tokyo mirage sessions bombed tokyo mirage sessions. It's because it's because it didn't sell And they're like, are we gonna port it for it to potentially not sell again? You know, you should port it for a thing that people own I agree That's what you should. I agree. That's why I'm always angry. Yeah seeing that That that that tweet with that dusty we you controller. Have you seen that? Yeah, I said caked It's like, yeah, that's that's kind of the problem is someone had to find out
Starting point is 01:48:50 Where the power button was through that dust to turn the shit on again, you know, but there's like a couple of wii games I'm just like, yeah Fucking put fatal frame 5 on the switch. You could have just re-released that for october People would have been able to play it seems fucking would have worked amazingly on the switch It feels like it's not Easy or free. I miss you know what I mean? It feels like it's it takes a bit of work the day because you wouldn't that's expensive You would have seen a lot more, you know jumping over from one to the other what what has been it's just mario kart 8 And before that not anything not first party before that wind waker hd on the we you and uh twilight princess
Starting point is 01:49:32 Yeah, that's it like like not for if find find the third party stuff is that's the real question Yeah, but third parties and many of them are still like, oh, I don't want to fucking develop for that Super hot system that's making money hands over fist. Oh, I hate that then fine. Don't support it like nintendo You you have other companies that are literally not doing anything as far as we know right now monster games that literally poured it Donkey Kong tropical freeze is another one that I mentioned last week. They ported it to the 3ds fucking poured it to the switch Tropical freeze. There's a million games. You could have done it with it's just like if you have these holes in your schedule Right now it doesn't because there's like Fire Emblem came out last week mario comes out this week
Starting point is 01:50:17 Doom comes out the week Next then there's skyrim then there's you know tons of fucking shit But like next year has somebody where the fuck's platinum's game? Look, they're gonna look all they have to do is drop trial and like like crease open the ass cheeks and breeze out the a cough of Smash and everybody just comes running so Just like you know the whiff
Starting point is 01:50:44 The whiff of an announcement about a smash game hitting the switch is gonna fucking like get everything Lined up for them. So it doesn't even matter um What does matter To you spawn movie is freddy kruger um It it doesn't really matter to me too much because I played um dead by daylight again like a week ago and i'm like man I don't like this
Starting point is 01:51:16 It's it for some reason to me going back to it It's much more janky and this it's just set up in a different way Where I really don't like it compared to friday the 13th anymore what it does have Is amazing fucking killer design multiple of them and they all have their different stats and they're all super cool That's super strong about this game and the other thing about it is that they have michael myers as a piece of dlc They have leather face as a piece of dlc and now they're getting fucking freddy kruger What situation has there been where there's one hold out horror icon hold out icon out of any genre? That just they they're like fuck. That's the last one and we can't get them mortal combat
Starting point is 01:51:57 I guess I guess so like Why couldn't they have gotten to fucking Ripley in mortal combat x you could have fought an alien and a predator, you know Yeah, or something it's it's uh To get both licenses in on the same time same place you pretty much I imagine like That have to be the point of the game
Starting point is 01:52:19 But yeah freddy kruger's coming to dead by daylight They have a bit of a trailer and i'm like that's cool The killer aspect of the game is great when you play as a survivor's I I I don't like it that great But I mean that's neither here or there it's popular games So that's fine if people like it, you know good to them But like it's still awesome that this game just is the one to The the the go-to shop for horror icons in your video games. Yes. I have a question. I can answer your question Maybe what is it? What is what dead by daylight? Okay, dude
Starting point is 01:52:53 Um Just it's just that the game's been around a long time now I know but it's a it's a thing that it's it's or anything close to my wheelhouse. Well, it's made by ass to mouth That's cool. Okay, uh behavior interactive and it's a four-on-one Survivors versus killers. Okay. It's one versus four. Okay, so it's directly comparable to friday the 13 13 Yeah, friday the 13 came out later And we did a should storm episode of dead by daylight like last year. Okay, and I was like this seems all right I kind of I kind of like it or whatever
Starting point is 01:53:24 Um, and then the game was kind of bare bones. There was like three killers. I think and just whatever And when I initially booted that up, it just wouldn't even load I couldn't even get into a match the longest time like most of these games usually do much like friday the 13th Had problems, but friday the 13th is just a more methodical long Matches that a lot of things can happen in very very large maps. Whereas like if I could If you could visualize this, this is more of an arcadey small maps Like much Much lower player count. It's only four people versus one. Yeah, whereas friday the 13 seven versus one
Starting point is 01:54:01 Um, but it's killer designs if you just put put by dead by daylight killers Into google and you'll just see the the the the character designs for them. They're very strong I think it's like, you know, the strongest part of the game or whatever Um, but yeah, it's cool that freddy kruger is coming in But the thing with freddy kruger is that like are you having a map tailored to him because then he's just some asshole Asshole and a christmas sweater running around all these characters. Uh, do they have maps tailored to them? No, I mean some of them do like the doctor. There's a like weird laboratory stage for him Uh, but those are the killers like I think the hag is strong trapper
Starting point is 01:54:42 Hillbilly the huntress Yeah, why isn't that just Is that not just michael liars? It is. I don't know actually I don't know why he's called why is michael liars called the shape I also with his dlc. You got, um, you got, uh Laurie strode, you got, um, god. What's her name the actress? In true lies Yeah, yeah, yeah For her. She's cool
Starting point is 01:55:09 You get her character in the game as well. So, you know, they do a good job with the characters in this but I'm like, uh, You know, it's just just not my thing. It doesn't play the way I kind of prefer But it's still cool that it has this dlc. Remember michael liars and call of duty No It was the precursor to predator and call of duty and uh, uh in the same game I think it was in the same game. Yeah, they had dlc packs for the multiplayer And it was he worked exactly like the predator did you have to like unblock him earn him in a match and then you promptly cut off the video Just as you get to him
Starting point is 01:55:48 But that remember, uh, Danny trejo was machete and I call the duty game I think buffy too. Well, though, they had they had like the whole remaro, uh, um, the remaro pack. Yeah Yeah, exactly. So yeah, I'll call Danny. We'll do that. Okay. Yeah. Well, anyway, um, that's that's cool, I guess uh, so We've also got, um The announcement that Uh, what was I gonna say? I don't know No, I before I was I was trying to finish off the thought on shin megami tense. Yeah. Uh
Starting point is 01:56:25 Yeah, they didn't give a date on it Was what I was gonna say. They didn't give a date, but uh, fuck. Yeah to that fuck. Yeah to um, whatever Other like like like apocalypse version is gonna come out after this comes out. Oh, right and Fuck yeah to the idea That nintendo, I guess is just now the shin megami tense a Company. Yeah, kind of like how they became the fatal sony is the persona company. Yeah I guess that means
Starting point is 01:56:58 Double kids Microsoft can be the no japanese games company They can get uh, they can get jack bros uh, anyway So, um, there was the announcement that microsoft announces we have canceled new japanese games Uh, internally you didn't know about them, but we've canceled them. So earlier last week One we got the confirmation that oh, yeah, there was a shit load of dbz news and nappa Coming straight to the fighters. So you saw that breakdown on how a ginyu player would win evo
Starting point is 01:57:37 Right, uh, I didn't see it, but I heard you talk about it. It was it was You you're you're ginyu and your second player and you pause the game in the middle of attorney match Your opponent player one Complaints to a to they come over you body swap As ginyu the first player they see that that player is the one that paused They they get they they boot him out of evo. You win. There you go. That's it. There you go Body swapping is just that that's why we put ginyu in here. What's a dragon ball care that can do something unique and stupid That's why ginyu's over you. Yeah, even though the story of this game is clearly also
Starting point is 01:58:20 More importantly looking looking at the screen That's why ginyu's here because you can get you can get an entire cast of characters Well, no, it's because the pose the ginyu force sentai pose is one of the most attorney hype with people It's the one of the most iconic things in the entirety of dragon ball of the street. No one remembers zarbhan and uh Dodara Am I even getting that second name right raccoon? Like like no i'm not i'm not even talking about the members of the ginyu force. I'm talking about Oh, you mean just the regular freezer the fat spiky
Starting point is 01:58:53 Girl and then the other one. Yeah, it's our one. Yeah No, no one no one fucking you know, but everyone remembers ginyu force because the ginyu force was fucking sick. Yeah They had a gimmick nappa nappa as well Napa's also announced to be yes a new character. He is and nappa's Cool because he's not like Seems like he might be another grappler. Yeah. Well, he's that he's a different type from every other like saiyan type Yeah, cool guy. Yeah, um I know I know raddits would never happen. So don't say that
Starting point is 01:59:27 It raddits probably gonna watch golden ozaru bar doc. Yeah be announced um But anyway, uh Legendary I can only now I now i'm just thinking of brawley better be in this just because I think brawley's hilarious Now i'm just thinking of because naruto is a character called to get daedara in it So it's very so i'm like what the fuck was the original characters Dodoria
Starting point is 01:59:55 Dodoria. Yeah, okay sure. Anyway, uh Who cares captain ginyu? And nappa and that's cool Napa's also gonna have that big crazy mouth laser thing that yeah, yeah, it looks super dumb, but Fuck it And and ginyu's screenshot has all the strikers coming out. So um, that's fun Yay to that also they updated the website and it looks like there's room for
Starting point is 02:00:27 Like a launch. Oh, yeah, so potentially a launch of 24. That's a that's a good ass healthy healthy starting roster Uh and with that came the announcement of the season pass with eight more characters because games as a service Now to be fair, we've also said we've all said like, you know Fighting games should in this climate be kind of considered a service Where the game sticks around for a long long time Longer than they used to stick around and you just add more like 100 but here's here It always comes down to the very same problem, which is the conflict and the
Starting point is 02:01:11 That comes with perception. How how you release your news. Okay We've addressed the problem with screwfighter cross-tech in back in the day. What was it? Well Here Certainly, but but here some fucking Miners Found model data for these characters that you're going to be selling here. They are in the game incomplete We could have just unlocked them. You shipped the disc with the dlc on it. Yes, and then sold codes, right? fine, that was
Starting point is 02:01:42 Bullshit The answer was the reason you held it back was for the vita port no one played right the uh Uh, the one of the answers was then. Oh, okay. Let's just do the same thing Yeah, programming wise and development wise except separate the files so that you actually have to download those files So people don't feel as bad about when they're buying the keys that could have could have just Because the character is like not complete or whatever. It's already done, right? Every single
Starting point is 02:02:12 fighter right now is fucking up This stupid dlc selling people characters thing plan Because they're announcing this shit before the fucking game is out. That's true What are you doing? We know we like the game and we're gonna buy it Stop telling us the extra shit that your need is to spend money on But if you don't do that then people won't might not buy the season pass or the special
Starting point is 02:02:45 Version that allows you to get that season of characters coming later or whatever the fuck But the whole point is that Like simply because the thing is not in your hands yet And you're already talking about a premium service that you're gonna be selling for for the thing People can't help but feel nickled and dimed Because the original thing is not even here If you went back to something that I already had and was enjoying and then said we're making more stuff for it right
Starting point is 02:03:12 Very few people are gonna find issue With being like I like this thing. I'll totally go get more cool new things for it because yay I like to see my thing supported But when it's I and but and of course this stuff is always planned ahead of time with these with game development But the perception is fucked when it's all Way way ahead of time. Maybe if you're on the road to redemption Maybe you're trying to have like a new sequel to bury the old piece of shit Or like there's some problem with it and you want to get back in the good grace and say we're more content more whatever
Starting point is 02:03:46 I can kind of see like them just wanting to get people excited by saying we're gonna have all this stuff But when you have so much good will like Dragon Ball like you said like people I am already excited For this base product. I don't really care Like I agree and when you're in this situation, it's like You don't need to You have enough hype. You literally have an all the hype right now But then you don't need to yeah, but but mr. King dice has to roll it and for a few dollars more And it's like guys
Starting point is 02:04:16 Little season pass shows up in his car and he's like yo coming to the season pass car I just like they were already there right and again, it's just perception because like I said with cross-tech in people No, like no one likes the idea that the dlc exists ready and finished before launch. Yeah, but What you don't know has less of a chance of hurting you When you're sold the game where the dlc is not on the disc you go Right, I can't prove that wasn't ready beforehand I'll shake my fist, but here you go. Also if you don't want people finding out about that the model data is anywhere
Starting point is 02:04:56 Don't release your game on pc. Well, there's that release it later. Yeah, there's that right there Don't release betas for don't let anyone get access for sure hide those files until the last second hide those second files But the it's just the the obvious problem when people are like I'm already saving up to buy your game and now you've announced the extra stuff to spend money on And all of this in my head We announced today. It's like the dragon ball ultimate edition. Ultimate edition includes the pass the season pass And the fucking thing that I that I called that I wanted so bad is the music from the anime Is also in the ultimate edition. So you got to get the ultimate edition. It's that's the only way to get that music
Starting point is 02:05:39 What's commentator voice pack? Oh The the budokai Commentator guy what game what fighting game had a commentator voice pack. It was like an indian. Yeah, that was yada garasu Yeah, it had that was neat. Yeah, it had ultra david and james chen and oh wait And Maximilian had the faces. Yeah, but then it was fun. Yeah, anyway Oh, I forgot about that. It was it was fun to hear fgc people But no, so that that's all it is man. It's just it's in the in the in the person in the consumer's head This is all just the nebulous future
Starting point is 02:06:16 And to you at biz dev it feels like that's exactly what it is at biz dev corp Yes at biz dev that you feel like Uh, we can announce this and this is a pro planet for a package and then we have a separate package Which is of different value. So these two things together it makes sense why these things has a value and this thing has a value This is for hype and this is for mega hype this and and it's all it makes sense We're releasing these two things and a side product But to the person who's way way way before all of this that's just like I can only play this all in the future You're just like it's just you've just announced a price increase on the thing
Starting point is 02:06:55 I just realized furthermore If you do a digital pre-order for dragon ball z fighters, you get more extra bullshit that Is early access to another open beta early unlocks So this leads me to my next thing when I saw the select screen. Maybe I I haven't seen it But i'm actually kind of like A I thought they said this correct me if i'm wrong And b it's like why does super saiyan god super saiyan goku and vg to get two fucking slots? That's horseshit. Well
Starting point is 02:07:27 Cuz I thought they had said in a press release that we're not gonna have No, no multiple versions. No, they didn't but that's why Goku is super saiyan goes super saiyan 3. Yeah, and it's super. That's all I need to do. Yeah, but no That's that's not gonna happen because you know dude like fucking Title card character push like you got it sure, but it's still like Oni and evil ryu They play more they play different more differently than those two do they play pretty different really. Yeah, they do
Starting point is 02:07:58 I thought they had the same specials. They have they have different specials I mean some of this like like like big bang attack is not even a super it's it's it's a normal All right fair enough, but still no no mechanically mechanically. They're different characters, but yes But we like variety more Than we like variety more than a random fan likes cool super saiyan blue. Yeah So and end of end of you know thought there Thought is now ended. Uh
Starting point is 02:08:26 But but anyway, though the point is that um, yeah, it's it's it's this is just it's not going away It's a new thing it's gonna happen and we're seeing this being put onto The hypest looking fighting game of next year like this looks like it's gonna be the best fucking fighter What's what's the one fighting what's the one fighting game that doesn't actually do this big fighting game, uh Well, that wasn't even thinking about killer instinct, but yeah, it actually didn't do this I mean it sold you characters individually It did but it was more like we're gonna have seasons of this whatever whatever it's sold characters individually
Starting point is 02:08:59 But like it one content was made after the shit came out Well, what I was thinking what I was thinking was smash smash didn't had no season pass nothing And they would have directs Months after the game come out about dlc There was just two versions of the game and then they're they're they're just a handheld and a regular regular But that's like sometimes nintendo being so slow Actually benefits them in certain instances like that They're not gonna fucking announce
Starting point is 02:09:31 Well, I mean for zelda didn't they announce the dlc packs result. They just said additional content would be coming No, there was a piece of extra content for smash 4 on the 3 on the e-shop though I'm trying to remember what it was um I remember going on to download like bayo and stuff and then seeing other shit Whether I don't remember what it was but there was the other there was other there was dlc for smash 4 no, no, there was for sure
Starting point is 02:09:58 But yeah, they wouldn't frame it in a season pass Style way no, no, no, no and it all came out after the game. Yeah way after the launch So, you know, that's what it is man. It's just it's just about perception You know like it's all about reality you can and making some noise You can't tell people how to develop their game But you can tell people when to announce it and doing this all ahead of time is just such a huge mistake because you do nothing But garner ill will and this is a game with nothing But good will exactly but even even today with this announcement
Starting point is 02:10:30 I saw like these two people in my timeline that never shut up about dragon ball fighters and they're just like I don't like this. There's not much reason that you would yeah, the honest truth is it's it's you know It's honestly, I don't care because I'm used to it at best. Yes, but it's like Like based on the way this this news comes out at best The person who's like gonna buy it goes all right Company just announces price increase Or at worst company announces Shit in the game. I'm never gonna get to see yeah
Starting point is 02:11:07 There's only two there's no in between there none None and and and you know all you can really be left thinking is Like the game's not out and that stuff is going to be made. So why not put it there? Yeah, you know and like even though like it's like they'll they'll give you a very long like matt algurn We'll tell you something as logical as well. The the the budget for creating that extra stuff Yeah, was a complete separate project internally. Yes, and everyone's like who gives a fuck At biz dev corp we we allocated. Oh, thank you for showing me the folder for the project when it was created And showing me the date the time stamp on it. So the dlc folder sort by last day modified
Starting point is 02:11:54 Okay, okay dlc too was uh that project folder was only created months later So that's a separate budget and that's like that's that's still that's still annoying. That'll still annoy you enough Knowing like that's that's true. And that's how games are developed and you could you could say that cows come up I also know that But like it will still annoy us like I don't give a shit when it was green lit and how much money allocated for it You told us before the product was out. You told us months before the product was out So it doesn't matter really and it's like um
Starting point is 02:12:32 man this uh this uh dlc for Uh deus x sure was developed way later. It fucking wasn't We knew it. Yeah, it's a good bit of dlc. Actually, it's pretty bland But uh, you know, it was made separately, but it wasn't made at a different time fill in the missing link you guys I love you know what I miss that type of dlc where they were trying to be like a s Plug in the holes we left It with money
Starting point is 02:13:10 There's a couple of games that did that. Well a dlc called true ending Sarah's wrath I don't prince of persia Yeah prince of persia prince of persia 2008 did kind of do that nothing made me feel like More furious than finishing a sura's wrath and seeing some fucking game Get into my face and say Fucking pay me
Starting point is 02:13:40 For the fucking ending That's shit It wasn't any better or any more lightning than the fucking regular end. It's so good Oh, that was the worst like yeah, I I hope whoever decided that Falls down today I don't wish their death
Starting point is 02:14:02 I don't wish a loved one died. I hope they fall down a set of stairs today Like as there is about to punch a guy or whatever and then it pauses and like an old black and white Dude with a cane in a top hat watching Like walks and goes and he's got like four canes. I bet you're sure wondering what happened to me and the rest of this adventure a gang Oh god or like my console like since I was playing a sura's wrath of 360 just somehow morphs like a slot To put in dollar bills so I can see the rest of the fucking shit as I need of a sura's wrath Oh I hope max bites his own tongue today because he loves a sura's wrath
Starting point is 02:14:47 Okay, I was like, where's that going? No, that's that's that's the illest I could wish upon him. Yeah um Fucking pay me Thank you like really think about that not the missing link either Yeah, no, no, no. Yeah the fucking end. Yeah, cuz I was I was gonna go down A joke branch. Yeah of like names of dlc things where it sounds like it's optional, but it's really not optional You know the truth Or you know the
Starting point is 02:15:23 Imagine we're playing dong dong never dies and it's like you give us more money so I can show you streets of rage 4 Questions answered dlc You're like, fuck you man Do I really get a choice here? Maybe it's optional, dude But you'll learn the truth I I need to look it up at what the time frame was but I think it might have been I think the prince of persia ending was actually developed because they're like, oh, shit People really hate the ending. We have to make something real quick. You go on the
Starting point is 02:15:57 You go on PSN and you're looking at ad-ons and you just see like like Secrets revealed and it's just a main character's face going like Like parks and rec face like shitty old thumbnail YouTube like attention clickbait thumbnail, but they're doing clickbait antics Like but not on youtube but on fucking your dlc store to be like, well, you won't believe what happens in this dlc Little arrows with circles pointing at It's pointing at
Starting point is 02:16:35 Just giant asses, you know, like we start seeing the entire youtube thumbnail era dude. That's really strong recycling into dlc ads and thumbnails Fuck getting clickbait clickbait dlc, dude. I'm telling you that's really the only place left to go And you're playing like like journey or something and the thumbnail is just big titties Oh man reactions Anyway, a sura reacts to his own true ending And he's like, oh I can't believe it And the end is like I said, there's fucking shit
Starting point is 02:17:21 Oh, man, you know what okay since you haven't seen it You know the worst thing about the ending of a sura's wrath without me actually saying what it is Is that you remember when you said? The fucking asura starts dancing And you said it pauses the ending That's almost what it is where it's in a piece of artwork And then when you put in more money The true ending
Starting point is 02:17:48 It starts on that last shot. You saw from the ending By playing that piece of shit. Yeah. Yeah, it's so flagrant. It's not like It wasn't developed later. It was just fucking we need money Just cut the ending in two and sell it Adam jensen pranks in the hood Step it on jordan's in the hood Make up tutorials got a click got to find out Uh
Starting point is 02:18:22 Oh my god. All right. All right DLC in the hood So anyway, uh in not video game news For like the eighth time we're being told that godzilla pacific ribbon kankong can cross over And you know what I enjoy that people feel the need to tickle my balls Every couple months. I enjoy it. Well, you read the quote. Yeah, I read the I read nothing but the quote It's from the director because I know I know but like it's like it's like how many more of these stories do we need to do?
Starting point is 02:18:54 I click on it I scroll past all the preamble bullshit Okay, I throw it to this go straight to the thing where it says look I think would be fantastic to have pacific rim universe join legendaries monster universe Seems like a natural step in part of the overall plan for the third movie We talked about that could happen. It's always a possibility not far from certainty Merrily theoretical at this point as a fan. I'd love to see that happen. Great Right, and this happens every couple months. Hi. This is the only actual
Starting point is 02:19:18 Like quote from someone that worked on it. Okay that I've ever seen a lot of it's like speculation or whatever What I think even gives credence this ever actually happened is japan Loves pacific rim. They're fucking making figures out the ass for pacific rim Fucking Shinkawa did the fucking poster for this like it's not like it's not robot jocks where japan's like what? who They they're aware of pacific rim. They're like, holy shit. Look at these americans Fucking actually making this mecha thing. I can't believe it and that's the only thing that makes me go
Starting point is 02:19:52 But like toho and whoever the fuck owns king kong one of the other American companies open king kong. It's still like messy. It's still not all clean. It's not like one person owns everybody I think Legendary owns Has the license for making their own godzilla character up until a certain point 2020. I think So if this is gonna happen, it's got to happen soon But that's what the third pacific rim movie should be honestly. Hopefully yeah um
Starting point is 02:20:24 Because king kong doesn't need it godzilla doesn't need a specific rim needs it But they'd never Dedicated number to that so much as they would create a new thing for everyone to have like Because pacific rim battle royale Who gets top billing king kong talk king kong godzilla or pacific rim pacific rim whoever owns Monsters that they fight are them but whoever owns the thing wants their name top billing because king kong guys are going to be like But king kong that's why I say that's why I say king kong is not the biggest Okay, but the guys who paid the money and have the thing are gonna want to act like that's the truth
Starting point is 02:20:57 Even though it's not You know what I mean? So the problem there is like any other multi multi license crossover game Is that you can't do this in the context of one thing You have to create a new thing with a new series of fucking giant contracts to sign on the table Why are they giant because you have to say that they're like novelty check size. No, no, no, no They're just multi multi pages. They're huge thick contracts because who wins nobody because you can't have a king kong die at the hands of a jager
Starting point is 02:21:28 You know, you can't have a fucking a jager blow up at the hands of godzilla But then you do the simple versus movie thing or versus comic books Whatever they all team up to kill the new monster And then like godzilla looks up king kong sup and fucking gypsy gypsy Avenger looks up and then they all look at the same monster and they turn and the crowd goes nuts That's fucking money. Sure right there. Sure But dude, but that's the thing is like there's no king kong aren't even inherently evil Especially in their own movies people that own that have their brand
Starting point is 02:22:03 Want their brand to be the the thing and to have a crossover thing I could be super wrong and it goes to the complete opposite direction right now Right in the future when you click back on this and it's like wow it completely didn't go the way woolly was describing Yeah, but I feel as if traditionally people will go like I want my property to get their respect it deserves and the only way for that to happen To me for me to negotiate here is for us to create a brand new movie for all these things come together Maybe yeah
Starting point is 02:22:34 We don't want to guest star in your pacific rim movie So much as we want a triple billing. There's a godzilla too Godzilla came a monsters then there's king kong versus godzilla and every other property doesn't have like a third or second thing Like king kong has no Follow-up movie right now predators don't show up in alien titles You know they show up in avp's exactly. Yeah, you're right. You're right But it's not going to be called pacific rim. It's not a it's not a character versus no, you know, it's got to be something else That's why it's messy, but yeah, they're like godzilla versus kong on the pacific rim
Starting point is 02:23:12 Uh Legendary has the rights to all these characters. So it's like It could always happen. I'm just glad that this director is like. Yeah, we've talked about it You know Sure, but that's what a third pacific rim movie like it needs them more than king kong or godzilla needs pacific rim Or just get ready player one to fucking do it Or the rampage movie. Yeah. Yeah, sure exactly that literally has the monsters against you Because guess what if you if you've read ready player one, you know where that story goes and like the finale
Starting point is 02:23:50 Leads to something that is kind of close to what we're talking about right now It's a big wreck at Ralph fucking, you know license brand fap off. So fap off Um, I like it. Yeah, so all right What else is there? There's just the news that uh, oh, yeah, the assassin's creed launch trailer was really dope Um, that's what the news story says the little witch academia chamber of time trailer was really nice That game looks so good. The animation is beautiful. Hmm. And There's a new fighting game called million arthur being announced. Oh, I don't see this Squeenix really it's a arcade game. Whoa anime
Starting point is 02:24:32 anime anime thing arcana blood Um is being arcade game is coming out based on I think a mobile series getting adapted so Yeah, we're getting a new 2d fighter and it looks
Starting point is 02:24:48 You know like an anime 2d fighter looks looks like a fisticuffs with not much else to say Uh, you know, it looks like a fisticuffs Fucking pray for death being added to steam. Sure. Yep And slasher and every other thing that's just popped up but pray for death. Yep. What about expect no mercy? Expect no mercy is not on steam. No, it's not just pray for death. Yeah, just pray for death All right, let's uh, let's take some letters and get the fuck out ooo e-mails If you have an email and you can tell us about how the uss enterprise might want to destroy cavemen Uh, you can send it at super best friendcast at gmail.com
Starting point is 02:25:32 You know what I wanted to do, but I was too lazy I wanted to grab some excerpts from last podcast when we said things such as I as quote as uh woolly If that robot battle just had had one punch and he does a really cool sick thing Do you want to talk about that? I mean very quickly not much else to say besides obvious. How'd you like that? I mean, yeah, dude You know like it. No, it's it's look look look. All right. Yeah, this is the tone of voice
Starting point is 02:26:07 You know, it's coming. You know what I mean There's the tone of us where you can read it in advance Because i'm so predictable Yeah, dude, of course it was fucking it was not as Hype as it was. Wait what? It was not as Hype as it was, you know And then and what do you want me to like I wish the robots moved faster And then there's a video not to wish they were just like but there's a video of like the torso moving really fast And they're like we can do that
Starting point is 02:26:34 And there's a video of like crazy death machines and weapons being put on the thing Yeah, and the dentist which is the fucking drill and whatnot arm they had Okay, but then they did the livestream afterwards where they're like, but we don't want to kill each other a pilot being in it Hurts it. Yeah, it does Unfortunately it does now it's cool that there's a pilot in it, but you can still have a pilot But that means that they're not willing to to do really dangerous cool shit And or I'd rather I mean obviously I'd rather see two empty machines beat each other up Well, the thing is is that like they were clearly willing they're like in the first thing they were clearly willing to fall
Starting point is 02:27:10 Right sitting in the cockpit. Yeah, but take a take a little bump six foot fall Yeah, take a little bless what I mean, but like the curatesse was like, I don't want to don't hurt me You know and like they're not gonna rip the screen off. They're not gonna blow the head up They're not gonna, you know, so basically it's kayfabe Right, but I was okay. I didn't know that this was a Kickstarter. Oh, you didn't know. No So Liam's like I put in some money for that. Yeah I don't think I got the product I wanted What's the problem because he's like I didn't want it to be like fake. I wanted to be real
Starting point is 02:27:45 And I was like here's the problem. It wasn't fake enough And it wasn't real enough. So it was trying to do well the fakeness aspect was when they had to describe how Like between each pause that was like a day Because they didn't hours of repairs on the robots to then recommence the next round So practicality you can't do it live for those reasons, right? Yeah So that's understood. You're probably gonna you're gonna have to have a filmed edited thing fine The fact that you you know, like you're like, okay, you're taking little pot shots and doing like I'm gonna grab the thing And what you planned out your little battle, right? Okay. And here's the thing
Starting point is 02:28:26 I would I want more than anything real fast battles with real fast danger Yeah That's the subtitle of a game real fast danger, but right understanding the technical and realistic limitations At the if you're gonna go the k-fave route Then like You have to do it well. How about yeah, you can't have the fucking spanish announcers table Running away to see a robot get put through the table. Well, you can do the announcers that ran from the fucking thing Dude, don't do that. Did you see the chat? Just explode. Just go fake news fake news
Starting point is 02:29:11 Yeah, that was that was almost what we were talking about with kappa 200 000 people dude Yeah, and then more millions later nothing is the zeitgeist of all human accomplishment Then a big dumb fake robot Pick up a piece of like a girder and just be like Oh Yeah Shit with that girder and I just I want to know how much of it is holding back due to pilot safety Versus like like it just doesn't move that fast, you know
Starting point is 02:29:49 like Because you can clearly tell that guns do nothing in this type of battle because a paint gun is going to do not much The only thing obscure your your your vision your copper which the fucking funnel that came out for a half second Yes, it was a good idea A lot of things came out for a half second and I saw the fucking drone pop up and I thought Drones cool. I thought I'm like, oh Shit, he's it's gonna go flying to the wheels and detonate And then it just and then it didn't it just kind of landed and then like, you know
Starting point is 02:30:24 Put out some smoke which is a good idea But then when you saw the claw grab it You're like, how many mistakes that they film until the claw successfully grabbed it out of the air Like an hour probably that's what i'm saying. I would watch lucha underground but with robots Where it's all fucking staged and has dumb story lines and is completely fake, but this like the product is still exciting Yes, as fake as it is when prince fucking puma gets in the ring He delivers an exciting product. Yes, and that's the problem here. It's not that it's staged. It's that it's not exciting enough Either way if it was real and boring
Starting point is 02:31:09 people would Uh, for give it more watch it. They'd be like, oh that shit's boring, but they'd forgive it more You know, they'd give it more slack because they're like fair enough the technology is just not there yet But then you go and you look at fucking big dog and you see that crazy super sprinting dog robot But that thing costs like millions of dollars. So why would you have that be destroyed in one episode? It's like it's like in the captain american movie. Like why the fuck would we put you in the war? You cost so much. It's insane. We don't want you to get shot idiot. No, we need a giant crazy Saudi prince to just bankroll infinite dollars. Yeah, that's the that's so that we have no problems with destroying cool
Starting point is 02:31:56 Saudi prince save us from our tedium right Fun the cool shit so that we can destroy things without a worry about the cost And things can move with a little bit more speed and higher pilots that don't mind taking a bump Like you're not going to die in that thing and you're not going to throw a car But if you're going to attack a thing at least let it fall over a little bit I I really don't even think pilots are needed. Like Like there needs to be someone controlling the thing
Starting point is 02:32:27 But just have them in a safe in a safe space Because I'd rather see a machine get torn the fuck pieces with a pilot doing I agree and I think that that could save it And it would create like a problem with like, you know, perhaps like like radio control accuracy or whatever But we get closer to Gundam build fighters basically at that point Where you get to stand on the side and the thing gets destroyed properly And you can have a one armed fight or like a cockpit get destroyed and it's fine You know, that's a that's another winning round. Maybe this new challenger
Starting point is 02:33:00 In the form of the monkey king from china Or any of the other 20 robot masters that have challenged megabots one must fall 29 Basically, uh, you know, we'll lead to something nice and they clearly pushed the league right away at the end of it They were like, hey guys, we want this to happen. So you can it's the money ploy They're doing them. We're doing it's the money ploy. Also I kind of think with the reception that it got towards the The the the the finale of the match Like you probably lost a lot of viewers for just the fakeness of that last thing
Starting point is 02:33:35 Yeah, and i'm just like uh, hoping that because I would like to watch more and see it improved because it's like There is something there even with the problems that it had I think some network retooling. Did you because if you have 200,000 people watching on twitter, that's a lot Did you watch the um, did you watch the the promo video they had of them doing it like a Like a course. No, okay. So they had a whole promo video of them doing like an obstacle course, right? And it was like right before that it came out And that was the scriptedist super like like production value thing with a cool voiced commander Going, all right boys. We got a mission for you today and on and it was a whole cinematic thing
Starting point is 02:34:16 Okay, and it's basically showing you their goal was to like make this kind of Fake robot mecha world right thing that but it but the thing but the thing the robot exists in real life, right? And come on mad cat. Well, i'm more than anything what i end up thinking is fucking monster truck rallies And carnosaurus or truck and all that shit and how like we have that, you know And it's basically like those are not real those are super fake whatever stand plant battles, but You can make this better while keeping it fake. Yes, I think so too and uh robot war is the original stupid little little lawnmower things
Starting point is 02:34:58 Were a make there. I love watching that back because those were both fake and real at the same time Yeah, they're faking that you had to have tons of editing time cut out of the thing. They had to bring in Stunt bots to make it exciting because the real ones would break down all the time But I couldn't stand when there was a kid on the team. Yeah And that exactly but they were real in that the two people that brought their things would actually have to win somehow Yeah, you know so anyway, um, yeah, that was the fucking I'll I really really quickly as an aside when I was in cubs, which is basically like I know pre scouts For a few years at home. Basically I pre scouts like uh in canada
Starting point is 02:35:43 We had like cub car races where you they gave you a block of wood. I was in beavers. Yeah, I was in beavers, too Uh, they gave you a block of wood and you had to construct a car out of it You know add anything you want, but then we would have a big competition where that this big track Which is basically just a downward slope and then you'd try to win like it was your cub car the fastest and there was like allegations of maybe Dads using illegal equipment to supplement the cub cars But a very hush hush like I don't know putting weighted leds Inside the cars to give them more mass
Starting point is 02:36:21 That's bullshit and some dads would give do favors for other dads saying yeah, just it weighs the same to me And I made a wolverine car Like it was yellow and blue and it had wolverine like the superhero wolverine Did you collude matt? No, I did not because I didn't even know what a colluded meant. Okay I was just on a cool wolverine car And I fucking got wrecked every time and everyone's cub car was the fastest And I was just like what what what and I saw the kid that beat my cars like slap his dad Like give him a dad a high five like yeah
Starting point is 02:36:58 And then like they dropped their cub car and it just Collunked on the ground because it was so fucking heavy and illegal well there needs to be a cub car show Well, maybe the spoiler sticking out the back was a clue Maybe the muffler that was fucking letting off gas And the rumbling of the engine was a little bit of a clue Oh the fact that it had shredding blades on on its fucking wheels Shredding up my like wolverine car wolverine mobile made with love and affection Yeah, that's unfair. It was unfair
Starting point is 02:37:32 Fucking i'm richer than that kid is now. I'll tell you that Fucking he's probably homeless Uh We got some emails coming in if you I mentioned I mentioned an email if you want to Tell us about uh, how you cheated as a kid you can write into super best friendcast at gmail.com Uh Dear Patrick Matthew and Woolsworth Jason here So the destiny lore is actually pretty good. Sure. I won't summarize it
Starting point is 02:38:04 We don't have time for that. No, but it's dueling philosophies and shit you guys love But the problem is that it's impossible to get to because it's all tucked away in the grimoire in one And the actual world lore is still mostly in item descriptions in two I guess what i'm asking is if a game has an interesting story But actually learning it requires dipping into art books listening to interviews Maybe even going to a website that isn't part of the game Is it good if it's so poorly implemented that actually understanding it requires digging around in research materials Like nicolas cage vehicle national treasure
Starting point is 02:38:45 Uh points for the national treasure I I haven't found a game yet that I like yeah, I love digging to find that Haven't found that game yet. I'd rather it all be in the product somewhere. It doesn't have to be in your face Like I think souls games do it fine. Yeah, it's just there. Um, I've always been of like I wish I could learn about overwatch heroes rather than buying this fucking comic book that no one can get or find I don't know where it is. Overwatch is a pretty good example Where is it? Where's the thing and I
Starting point is 02:39:21 Wish I didn't have to constantly play the game here one new voice clip that maybe might shed a light between two characters It's a cross media event. It's almost like it's it's stories as a service fuck I feel like uh A good story is a good story no matter what at the end of the day when you put it all together If it's a good story, you can't pretend it's not. Oh, yeah It can be delivered in poor poor methods. Yeah, and uh, I definitely feel that yeah, the more you don't put in the thing
Starting point is 02:39:52 The more of a disservice it is. Right same goes for movies Games is the same same for movies, right? I'll never forget that art book for um, um You know the one that makes it better Prometheus Yeah, where it explains the dumb shit and goes and makes you go. Oh That would have been a lot better if you did that. Yeah, right? Um, and I think one of those makes the movie worse because you're like, why didn't you put that in there? Yeah, and overwatch is is is like
Starting point is 02:40:24 It's it's good and it's good on its own, but like no definitely is You know like a thing where I'm like, oh, someone told me there's this area comic got and I was like, oh, fuck I wasn't paying attention. Yeah, there is and and it's not like you boot up the game and then it says on the boot on the Main menu. Hey, go read it and tell tell it might be always tell you when there's a new DC It'll be there on the blizzard launcher though, right? So you'll have to you you'll you'll see it on the blizzard launcher along with Uh, uh, what's his name? Kaplan, yeah Like overwatch could use a glossary section in the extras or the options or something
Starting point is 02:40:58 Just a wiki an encyclopedia or something just to Put all that stuff and that's that's and that's the thing is if you at least have a dump section It's better than nothing marvel infinite has a dump section No, it does and it's just a glossary of random parts. It's like x buster um Chris's magnum Whatever, you know rebellion or just for had the timeline and the little thing the little extra mgs4 had an entire wiki Yeah, and it was incredible
Starting point is 02:41:27 It was a slow was a separate piece of software that you had to download. Oh, yes. Yes. It was see that even is fine It doesn't even you have to be in the main game, but it has to be deliverable On the on the yeah on the web sites on your computer if you play overwatch on pc Don't count if you make a separate game or program or whatever and you release it alongside as a companion thing That's fine too because it's at least in on the same location Like killer ink stink has that extra disc that Launches an app that's in your games an app section for killer ink stink extra shit. Yeah, so has the documentary has this the Soundtrack kind of and it's got like art and whatever like that's fine, too
Starting point is 02:42:06 uh one that's on the In recent memory for me is mirrors edge catalyst because Uh, when you play mirrors edge like original especially you get the story that's there and you're like, okay, whatever Um, and then there's the comic and then there's the other mirrors as comic here, which flashes things out a little bit They're not like amazing, but they just give you a bit more context for what's going on And then the game is constantly like if you want to find out why faith got locked up to begin with Got a book. Yeah, and you're like, I yeah, man. I get it. Okay. Cool. Thanks. And then it never goes away That's really annoying because the game's constantly telling you
Starting point is 02:42:45 You know, it's like like while I just said it's not like the game Like overwatch tells you where the comic is out. Yeah, I don't mind getting a notification about it once But don't make every fucking loading screen to tell me to go read the fucking con. I read it I fucking read it. Okay. And the second thing should be a problem that says I read it and then you press it and it's like, okay Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then the second one is um One of the most interesting things about catalyst is when you find the hidden parcels you get pieces of world lore, right? And they're the most obscure things that no one is going after here
Starting point is 02:43:26 Okay, like and and and in a game like catalyst where the average person just didn't just dropped it after You know playing it once or whatever like there's You know, I know a lot of people didn't like it and that's fine. I I still had fun with it. But um, the the the secrets you find Tell you about okay. This is what the world was like before these megacorps were the government, right? Right, so it couldn't be even more removed from what's currently happening in the game. Yeah, it's like this is the gray lands This is and it's just
Starting point is 02:43:59 Breaking down all these little tidbits about like the history of mirrors edge and like that world and why it is the way it is And I found that stuff to be infinitely more compelling than the story that took place in the game One of the fucking coolest things was do you know why I think I told you talked about it when I beat the game But do you know why the city is so colorful and weird while still while being gray? I think you told me but I forgot why because every corporation is represented by a color And that corporation is also the government since this is like a like almost like a um capitalist dictatorship society. Yeah, and
Starting point is 02:44:35 So like kruger sec represented by blue for example or pere dello is blue when you're in that area of the city Their colors are their brand and that's why that's all blue like we own blue Yeah, and then you another corporation Oh is their brand is yellow or purple and that corner of the city is that color and that's why mirrors edge looks the way it does with I I thought it was just like the way that the art style right and it's easy to go. Yeah, that is just the art style It was a cool bold choice, but it has lower implications that are like like really well thought out
Starting point is 02:45:09 I was like that's really interesting It is um, and and yeah, it was annoying that that was in the game But still buried so fucking deep That no one would have any idea or give a fuck about it. You know, um, like fortunately There's that overwatch art book coming out. Maybe that has kind of like even that even just If it's not in the game it's not in a digital format even just one sort of bible slash glossary art book Whatever it is as long as it has that it's like, yeah, that's it's fine too. I guess But that's like the last
Starting point is 02:45:43 Rung where I'm willing to kind of accept it because I don't want to go to uh There's some of the game that did this really really poorly where you have to go to several different things It's like a few years ago There was like you had to read you can only read bios of the characters on a site Then there was other shit. I don't know but like it does it's never optimal And I'm like I don't think anyone should design their game to be like that like either have no story at all Or at least put your story easily reached because people do like read about the the lore and the world building so And that's why Dark Souls does it well because you actively have to search throughout the game
Starting point is 02:46:20 And look at your so fucking surround needs to make your own conclusions. Dude worse comes to worse you go play Ixard and story mode is just a sit and watch mode. Yeah. It's literally just watching cut scenes I've always been meaning to with no gameplay to play through it Yeah, you just you know arcade is there with some extra story too But they put the thing in there if you really want to know what's up, you know So, yeah, that's that's I hope that answers your question, dude Uh, we got one coming in from Ryan and he says, oh, excuse me, uh, Kai
Starting point is 02:46:55 Okay When you send me the email and I see your name and then at the bottom it's tagged with like oh, you're tagged Then I'm like, I don't I don't know dude. What do you want me to do? All right? Um, you want me to do with this? Uh He says he says Finding you guys since the downpour playthroughs been following your main channel and individual stuff. Keep it up Since it's almost it's almost halloween. What are you say some of your favorite creature designs?
Starting point is 02:47:27 Uh Uh relic The cathaga the cathaga. Yep. Um way up there way up there way up there I want to go outside my regular wheelhouse of like predators aliens and such Uh, really really horrifying creature design monster was at the end of the first wreck You know record the spanish, um horror movie It's the and it's an actor that's like built like this. They're incredibly thin
Starting point is 02:47:59 I think they have some you know Some not maybe not illness but condition or whatever that they're incredibly tall and lanky and that was like a drooling Hairless just straggs of hair and like topless vaguely female and just that that thing was the that that zombie monster or whatever in wreck was always kind of struck me as like Fuck that's that's rough. Um, and the scissor walker as a more You know lately from the scissor walker character in the the the game night cry
Starting point is 02:48:30 I thought was also really strong design because it was designed by the guy that created pyramid head And so that's that's a strong one Everything from pans labyrinth. Yes, obviously 100 percent of the content and pans labyrinth And a lot of the stuff from hellboy both hellboy is as strong too because it's the exact same shit And the parent monster from um, I won't from uh smt Uh, was it not? I don't know if it was nocturne or not, but there's one of the smt games parent parent parent There's one of the smt games where you fight a boss That is the amalgamated bodies of the parents of the characters
Starting point is 02:49:13 I can't see how that would be. It is horrifyingly emotionally disturbing. It is fucking parent ball Yeah, so that's cool. Um, not to mention, um While i'm thinking while my brain is in there the brahman In uh dds is fucking cool as well. There's some good shit. Yeah, there's a lot. Yeah, but but del Toro really del Toro. Yeah Um There's lots of stuff really it's blinded by choice. Yeah and like
Starting point is 02:49:53 Different versions of kufulu. I think are stronger than others There's some that i'm like, yeah, and there's some that i'm like, oh, yeah Like vince big man in the rustling chair. I've seen different versions. I'm like My chair is so right right right Uh, okay, let's take one from Where'd you go? Miss you so Dear shivering in anticipation
Starting point is 02:50:27 Now you're reading the question and now you're like, mm Patient cast If you've given the opportunity to star in your own harem anime, would you Are there any downsides wait star in it? Yeah, like as a voice. Yeah No, like be in real life No, a bit like a live action show would no create a harem anime situation, but in real life No Fuck no, what's the downside?
Starting point is 02:50:56 That's a like That's too much. I couldn't I can't handle one woman. I can't even do that if you would you like some money Yes, please no money equals no problems. Will the rules are this if you choose Oh, these rules six to ten characters from any media to join you in your home In addition, you get one superpower that makes you extra special. This is some this is some fucking Yeah, you see this is this is what i'm talking about. Yeah, this is what i'm talking about You get one superpower that makes you extra special You can live in this harem world as long as you want
Starting point is 02:51:32 But as soon as you have sex with any of them you're transported back to the real world poise quiet is never to return Yeah, no, I'd rather live in that house Would you do it? But I would you take this ability to have a superpower and then have sex with a fictional character Get out. Yeah, I wouldn't no you just continue living. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. That's far more interesting Cool. Last. Oh, okay. Yeah, great. I would do the free thing with no downsides and then go back to living my normal life. Yes Fantastic, okay. Well done It's like this. Good job. If you leave you die. Well
Starting point is 02:52:12 I think I'll stay Hey, what are you? What do you look? What do you like ask yourself that question and think about what the answer would be my friend? Yeah, um Yeah, what Kevin says, um Super best sumo friends you guys doing great. Keep it up. Thank you very much What shopkeeper in a video game would you buy from? Uh, and what item would you buy my answer? Say someone that's not already for a shop. Yeah, well because that's the funny guy. Yeah Um, my answer is drubbin from mgs4 and the item I would buy is a phoenix down. All right. Well. Yeah, that's obviously a winner
Starting point is 02:52:50 Sure, you get to come back to life and and you hang out with a cool guy Um, there's a lot of shopkeepers from zelda. I would love to buy stuff from bet there's so many i'm kind of Going through my zelda shopkeeper roller decks was that was that was that girl at the tavern and in uh night cry Uh a shopkeeper, uh She was the beast. She was the beast hunt I would say yes, and and and battle chasers night war night war. I keep saying night cry. It's fine night cries again
Starting point is 02:53:24 I just talked about but uh, I she's not a shopkeeper, but she serves the same function So I'd say yes, that's our current go-to. That's the go-to name fed a fed of the beast master Sarah Forget her name. You'll know her when you see her. You'll see her when you know her Uh, what item would you buy? item would I buy Phoenix downs, you know, it's hard to beat that. I like an apple gel. I always want to know what an apple gel tastes like in the tales of games It's just it just gives you health back, but I'm like apple gel. Hmm
Starting point is 02:54:05 um Yeah, I guess Yeah, I'm sure there's some fucking bayonetta item or weapon that we're like, yeah Yeah, yeah, that was fucking anklet of mahala or whatever bracelet of mahala I don't know like at the end of that like there's some probably an item that lets me always ukemi Yeah, like there's probably some incredible like You know, um morph ball buy a morph ball
Starting point is 02:54:30 Roll out of bed The the the the auto parry uh item in in cup head so that anything that hits me I just parry Yeah, I thought bar needs to be more countering. Yeah, so there's that you can do you know I'm sure there's an awesome like Unstoppable like weapon that lets you be a god if you really just you know if you apply yourself You're like an undo button or something ridiculous. Yeah. Oh the dagger of time. I want to buy the dagger of time. Sure. Yep. Yep That's not a bad one Um telma's telma's got telma's way up there. Mm-hmm. There's some good shopkeepers
Starting point is 02:55:03 all right, well Sorry for that answer I thought that was okay Jacob wants to know if we played the siphon filter games I played Logan shadow I played the ps2 port and I think it was like a It was the psb version of the game and then it Ported it to the ps2 something like that. I played that I know there's like later siphon filter games are actually quite quite good
Starting point is 02:55:28 But when it started no, I was like fuck this Fucking metal gear rip off man. That's so gross And I was like of that attitude for a while But then I looked it up and I'm like, yeah, there's some actually decent games So when you get away from metal gear And that fanboy is a for a bit when metal gear was so hot You're just like, yeah, fuck anything else because there was a million fucking metal gear ripoffs at the time In the year 2000 back when uh, the arcades were taking a lot of my allowance
Starting point is 02:55:57 We needed to find ways to Stretch our dollars and what we used to do was go burn copies of siphon filter We used to go up to palet Descartes aka a card palace and we would play, uh their Like okay, so micro play had two dollars for half an hour Oh, right. Palet Descartes was two dollars for as long as you wanted Until that's like seedy almost until the guy noticed and like, you know would be like hey, someone else wants to play Basically, I mean the guy noticed like you could play until he noticed you just came on and paid two bucks to sit down and play a game
Starting point is 02:56:39 And then you just sat and you just sat there and then as long as no one else came up and said hey I want to play you you should just keep playing. Okay, so it was right whereas like it was cool Oh, yeah, because we got to because we got to play when the dreamcast came out because 2000 and we got to play fighting games that were across the street, but for longer on less money And um or whereas over at micro play They put a timer that fucking started and beeped as soon as you sat down and it was aggressive as fuck So like a bouncer that throws your ass out when we weren't playing the two k sports games And we weren't playing the fighting games
Starting point is 02:57:17 You're playing the siphon we're playing siphon filter to multiplayer I didn't even know and I have no experience with the single player game But those multiplayer fucking sessions were intense I forgot that pandora's pandora tomorrow on spinersoul has a really fun multiplayer mode spies versus mercs That's what it was called. I don't everyone love that mode Also, the name siphon filter was always fun to say. Yeah Uh And brandon wants to know based on um talking about
Starting point is 02:57:54 Keto boxing and trying to improve health overall what the health goals are for everybody if they have any Um, I think since it was kind of geared at me. I'll answer sure that uh Trying to mainly get out of obese bmi range That's always that's the goal Because you're like, I don't look or feel obese But it says I am on this chart. Yeah, so let's get it into
Starting point is 02:58:24 It's also strictly accurate. Let's get it into the normal colors and that's about it. So that means is getting down to I don't know Um, quite a bit less than what I am right now. Yeah, uh me the same. I'd love like I've Gone back up gone back down Uh, you know, I would you know right now. I'm like 240 ish I want to like get rid of 40 pounds like that's kind of my goal over like another year Uh, because now's now's the time not getting any older. Uh any younger. I've always get not getting any younger so I I'd want to do that and um Yeah, like the other thing is like gotta drink more water. We were talking about this in new york
Starting point is 02:59:07 It's like never stop drinking water. And what was your thing? You're like, you'll look at a bottle of water and you're like, I don't even want to drink this now I'm just I don't know. I'm done You drink so much in new york. We were just talking about water and yeah Literally never stop drinking water. Yeah, and you'll look at and be like, I'm full of water. I'm just done I'm constantly full of water Um, so yeah, I gotta I gotta drink more I guess that's that um, yeah, I'm not trying to get ripped and certainly not trying to become a professional boxer
Starting point is 02:59:46 uh But just well, you know, we want to know how to hit the bags properly and spar with people for fun. Um But yeah, outside of that. It's really just maybe kill a man But not die You not die. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you know, that's noble noble your fitness goal should always be not dying not die What's your diet not die good? I like that Not die forever. Yep
Starting point is 03:00:15 All right, we uh emails good emails good, uh, what read an article talking about how It's not the sugar gives you cancer. It just makes the cancer cells grow faster if you have cancer, right? I was like Good thing I'm off the sugar, but whoo Uh, what is what is coming up? Uh, patch should be back like in a day or two So we're gonna have to record more marvel Versus uh cap capom Uh, you and I did actually a bunch of one-offs. I haven't even gone up yet. Uh, we took a look at fight and rage Carville versus map com
Starting point is 03:00:55 We took a look at fight and rage look at troll and I and then there was another one we we played What was it still hasn't gone up either? I can't remember but um, and uh, Bebe bebe bebe bebe bebe should storm continues. We have a few more left to record of that And then once november a couple other one-offs we should probably get Yeah, definitely Uh, then in no start november, you'll be seeing another horror re um lp And then yeah, we uh, yeah the last episode of mark echo should be going up soon too. Wow Wish it was longer
Starting point is 03:01:35 Wish I could have played it more How about that ending? Yeah, so that's that's the the fucking That's the teaser leaving here. Oh my god. Wow Wasn't that satisfying? Wow Um, any any games few words any games coming out of this stuff that's coming out here this week? You're looking forward to mario odyssey mario fucking odyssey I'm gonna leave all these third party like triple a's like alone
Starting point is 03:02:06 Until the xbox one x comes out because then I'll I don't want to reinstall everything on two systems twice I don't care what the transfer process is. I'm just gonna not buy them until the x comes out Then I'm just gonna get the x and install them there like assassin's cre origins and and um Wolfenstein new colossus So then I'm just I'm gonna be fine playing mario odyssey also The game that kind of fucking Uh made me look a little bit dumb on twitter. It was like three days before it was re-announced to coming out I was like man. Does anyone remember that mummy de mastered game? That's never coming out sure. Hope way forward got fired for that
Starting point is 03:02:49 That's coming out tomorrow. Well done. So it actually looks quite good. So I want to give that a go and hit an agenda Uh the non-vr game that the makers of until dawn made which is Literally what we wanted out of david cage games where you play as a cop You know i'm talking about the inpatient No, this is hit an agenda game where you play as both a cop and a lawyer And you try to track down a serial killer and everyone plays it like Fibbage with their phones
Starting point is 03:03:19 Where one of you is actually working with the killer and you are doing things with your phone Oh, it's like a werewolf game. Yeah. Is there a tv involved? Yes, you're playing it on the ps4 and everyone just connects with their phones. Oh, it's both. I see. So it's a very locally Played game. Okay. So it's one of you has a Hidden agenda. I see so it's a it's a it's a like social board game type Yeah, you can also not play it like this at all and just play it like a straight up A thriller action game It's a wait. It's like a third person. Yes
Starting point is 03:03:55 So what are the people on their phones doing because when there's choices moral choices to be made? Uh, all of you kind of I think vote for what the player to do But one person is like counter voting one person wants you to do One person is chosen to be the person with a hidden agenda. I'm doing a bad job explaining Well, do you have to watch hours of game story go by or is it like a mini? I didn't play it I don't know. Yeah, it got buried in e3 news because that company announced three games simultaneously There's a lot of questions. I have now that you're talking about people on their phones playing with you I'm like, do you have to call people over so that you can do mission five?
Starting point is 03:04:30 You know what I mean if you want to I'm not sure if it's like a drop-in drop-out thing Or is it just a half an hour story or you know, like it's longer than that. What's it? What's the what's the deal? But it comes out tomorrow Are we just doing like like telltale? Liam wants to do a stream event maybe we can go over and play with them because the more people with that better I think it's like it supports up to like four other people or something. Yeah, if you'll have me And Liam also told me about the invisible hours Yes, so I'm gonna go look at that. Yeah, you yeah, he uh, he was raving about that that was um
Starting point is 03:05:07 That's like an adventure game in psvr. That's just a that's an actual movie. You beat it in two hours But it's like it's like a god clue where you just walked around saying who did it? You're an investigator or something. You know what else is an actual movie? Thor Ragnarok Which is coming out next next weekend November 3rd Oh good, then I'm not gonna Okay, cool. You're not gonna be a to a can of a cup. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, November 3rd 98 around tomatoes really looking forward to it. Sure
Starting point is 03:05:41 Yeah, I mean it's the closest we're gonna get to world war hulk It literally is world war hulk. I assume I know but like there's no there's gonna be no hulk through world who who didn't send hulk To the planet who did send hulk to the planet? That's not in the mr. Fantastic. Mr. Fantastic dr. Strange Oh black bolt in black bolt with me part of it. Mr. Fantastic dr. Strange iron man iron man Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, what's his name professor? No, no, was that wrong? Was it black bolt and uh, it's the Illuminati. Yeah, the Illuminati smart guys. Um There's one more
Starting point is 03:06:24 We're gonna get this wrong. Yeah, of course. That's what we do. That's what we're here for Everyone screaming at us about how wrong about death we were in marvel vs. Capcom What death is constantly not a skeleton and constantly talks. Oh, yeah. Yeah, just when we knew her She was just silent skeleton lady. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah My mistake. No, don't look at the comments of that marvel video. I I haven't yet Everyone's just like you fucking idiots Someone was making a reference to something about death on twitter But uh, like about the podcast and like, oh my god, I can't wait or whatever
Starting point is 03:06:57 But I was like, I don't know what you're talking about Yeah, I know it's about the last part of marvel vs. Capcom the one up because of the the female form. Yeah, right. Oh, okay While we get everything else my mistake. Anyway, um Namor black bolt professor x tony stark. Yeah, I was right. I said professor x. I got that right I said black bolt and I was right I didn't know about namor namor jeez. Yeah, he's not in the mcu. So yeah, he's in campin susan can't get enough Everyone wants to fuck fishmen nowadays Strangely attractive. It's it's it's the the four fish
Starting point is 03:07:37 sex kings Aquaman side on guy from shape of water and namor What about the original strangely attractive for a fishman who no one even knows rikkyo anymore Rikkyo, what's he started it? His name all bad. What's his name in japan? I just said it. No, what he has a japanese name all bath. Yes Rikkyo Yeah, that's a different name In japan, he's called all bath in in america. He's called rik rikkyo. Yeah, and you asked me the question after I answered it
Starting point is 03:08:15 I'm sorry. I I literally said it. All right. Anyway, the yes, this is the fish sex gods await you in valhalla They're fishy

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