Castle Super Beast - SBFC 220: Five Fish Sex Gods Await You in Valhalla
Episode Date: October 24, 2017With Halloween around the corner, we spin the scariest yarn of all: GAMES AS A SERVICE. You can watch us record the podcast live on twitch.tv/superbestfriendsplay Download for mobile Outro: Kobayashi ...- 2 Cent First 13 Xbox backward compatible games for Xbox One announced, available October 24 TMNT Arcade Game 12 minutes of Co-Operative footage of horror shooter, Hunt Showdown Freddy Krueger coming to Dead By Daylight The Switch port of RE Revelaitons is getting exclusive 8 bit mini games Dragon Ball FighterZ launches January 26 in the Americas and Europe Dragon Ball FighterZ Nappa, Captain Ginyu, and story mode screenshots PACIFIC RIM / GODZILLA / KONG CROSSOVER IS A POSSIBILITY Assassin’s Creed Origins launch trailer Shin Megami Tensei V Little Witch Academia: Chamber of Time five-minute trailer Million Arthur It’s Letter Time The WATCH
Transcript
Discussion (0)
All right, all right, let's let's do it. Shall we ride this is all right like
Yeah, yeah, but there's a fighting game. That's like all right like Terry Bogard
No, no, no, it's way it's like fighters history guy. Maybe yeah, there is no I know what you're talking about
There's there's a couple of no it's Street Fighter one
Oh, right. Yeah you
Yeah
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I'm gonna do Street Fighter one. So I hope you enjoyed today's podcast. That was great
Time to go
Hi, hey
What up? What up? Um
I love how death cargo is just it's just chillin. It's just got a physical copy of death cargo sitting here now
No, we know I'm just I'm like glad it's always there. Yeah, I know it's an it's the fifth member. It's
That's what it's here to do. It's also the fourth. Yes
Oh, that's good. That's good. So, um
No, no, no just sitting next to this game box and the game box has headphones on that damn straight
Why not? I'm not gonna disrespect the fucking cargo necro storm necro. Did I get it right? Yes, I did
Nice necro storm sounds like an event an image
Or or or what you got or valiant
If you remember at new york comic con, they had this in the summer event
They were pushing and it was something really edgy sounding
Oh, someone someone let us know maybe and we walked by and they were really trying to rope people in
Hard current valiant comics has the end of everything going on like either last month or this month or coming up
It sounded so final. Damn it. You were totally right. I've
Pointed that out. Oh, well. It was a big one
Anyway necro storm starts here like that. That's like in um
Supreme number zero. Yeah, you got to know where to start. Yeah. Yeah supreme number zero is where it's edge edge double edge
Yeah, exactly. Although the dc event metal is literally that
Everything's metal like dark knight metal justice league metal and the batman stuff is he's fighting a different demonic
armored form of himself. That's a different fracture of his of his
As psychology like here's his guilt here and they're all like bosses
That's pretty cool. Yeah, Scott Snyder was like man
I've been wanting to write this forever and I'm like since when since you were 15
Because it sounds like I mean, it's cool
But it's very undecided me
speaking of armored bosses
for those of you who are
Tuned in visually. I'm sorry to disappoint that. I'm not wearing a rathaloset
No, you're not not yet right away right here alive, but halloween is coming. We're working on it
It's gonna take a minute. You're dressing as female monster. Oh my god. Um
Yeah, that's cool. All right. Well, um, I don't know. There's a million directions to start here. Yeah
Where do we where do we what?
Well, you're you're what monster hunter willy. What's the deal with monster hunter monster hunter is
Uh, as far as I'm concerned a fighting game character
It's fine. That's fine. Oh
People are gonna love this one. Yep. No, that's a fighting game character
That's a fighting game character before with a lot of good moves before marvel infinite
You're even unsure how to pronounce the name
Mon hun
Yeah
Oh, you mean monster hunter from marvel. Yeah, that's correct. That's where she comes from
Yeah, and I'm a big fan. I really like her and uh
I've officially I think dropped Thanos for her. Yeah. No, I saw like
Thanos no longer best friend. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so
I mean, but basically like I've been spending a lot of time
You know getting getting good at marvel getting better at marvel and trying to like like, you know, not be completely free
Mainly, um, always a noble goal to not be completely free. Yeah, and I go for and right now
I feel like I'm doing all right as far as like Montreal is concerned, but uh,
We'll have to feel like I've pretty much dominated most of the city
I've gone to different marvel gyms
There's like like like whatever I've I've won against most you feel good in this city. I feel pretty good
I feel pretty good in different cities. You're you don't know. Yeah, obviously
It's not as huge as a group as as like save of street fighter is but like I'm doing all right
Um, but the real question is canada cup is next week
And I'm heading down to that and that's where
The battle for the stones is taking place
So I'm gonna I'm gonna be entering to see
Do you get the shitty eggs from the collector's edition? No, do they throw that in? No, it's way cooler
Actually, no, no, no, whatever the actual cool thing is that's fine
But you should also get the shitty eggs
See like I would like to think you get uh an actual nice version of the of the eggs
You know sure
But um, that would be terrible. Look what's interesting about the tournament is that it's like, I mean, you know, it's an official marvel tournament, right?
whatever
but
What you get at each one of the events
Uh, that tech takes place. You just get one you get one stone. That's way cooler. Okay, so
To to kind of break this down for you a little bit. It's it's not as simple as it sounds
um
Let me see if I can pull up the site here just to show you so it's the marvel premiere event and what they're doing with it is
the uh
There's a different stone gets done at different events
Mindstone is going to cat to canada cup which is next week, right? The winner of each stone
Gets an ability to use in tournament shut up
What what's an example? Okay an example here. They're so far here is what they've revealed
All right
Okay, the space stone allows the stone bearer to swap their position in the bracket and face a different opponent at an equal position
So if you decide to call it right now and you have it you go space stone
I'm using it and you get to change your position in the bracket to somewhere else in the exact same spot
This is like in if it like at at ceo or something if someone had a money in the bank briefcase
Exactly, that's all I didn't right. No one. No no one knew
Because no one's paying attention
You know, and it's fine. I'm not going to tell people to pay attention
But this is a tournament with some really cool shit going on. Okay. Is that all they've announcers or more?
There's totally more. Okay, but is any I'll just jump ahead as any of this considered like that's fucking unfair
Or is it all like yeah, that's fine
Dude in the context of a of a tournament of this of all of these things existing. Yeah, they're not meant to be fair
They're meant to be no bit is like is one of them considered to be actual like that is unfair
Let's go through what's what's revealed so far. So the space stone lets you switch any point in the bracket
That's actually good because it it goes with the theme of space
Exactly, dude. It's it's really it's a fun idea. Okay, soul stone
Now resurrects your soul you from the from death
Raise one of their losses and basically lets you come back from any three out of five set
so
If you so I assume that like
Low early on in the bracket if it's pools and you're doing two out of three
Then maybe i'm wrong about this, but if you're doing two out of three that it doesn't count once you get to three out of five
You can come back from a defeat and basically undo a loss, which is huge as well
Um, they're all really fucking useful. Yeah, it says resurrect your stuff
Resurrect your soul. Yes. Okay time stone. Why you stop someone else. I'm using their stone. Yes
So if you have the time
If you have the time stone you get to stop someone else who has a stone from using it
At and for one match so you can lock down anyone else's ability with that stone, right? Okay
Okay, and like it's an each brand they like each of these stones has gone to a winner so far
Uh power stone was revealed this weekend. Okay, and power stone was I was revealed at redville poomin grounds
They didn't have an updated the website damn, but the power stone allows you to get the first touch
in the match
Which is huge in a game like marvel i was gonna say in like streetfighter fun
You're like, yeah, okay, then marvel
It's like you can get killed two touches because you you your set play begins now
You get to do your ridiculous setup and then have them
Basically pop out and then reset them and possibly take the whole match from first touch
Wow, it guarantees first time. This is the best thing about the game
I'm telling you like like it's a really fun idea and fucking god bless them because this is super dope
And so what we're gonna find out
Next weekend at canada cup is what the mind stone is. Yeah, okay, and we don't know what that could be
I got something though. What?
If you get reality stone
Spidey's infinite is unbanned just for you
I thought you were gonna say people in the audience can throw tomatoes at you from the you know
from the the bleachers
You can physically web up your opponent
with tape
Reality stone
A bunch of people run up and just start to fucking tape duck taping you to the chair
As long as your hands are on the stick, you're still good. You can still play
Oh man. No, mind stone can be anything. I don't know
You're allowed to distract your opponent while he's playing. Do you have any theories at all like actual theory?
You're like while you're while you're doing the set. He you have a fake phone call from his mom
Oh
Has to answer a cell phone call you have you have like yeah, you have like a family relative
Run in and deliver new like really important news
During the match and see if you can break their concentration
I don't know. I don't know. Maybe there's you know your car is being broken into in the parking lot
It's like why did all these tournaments require me to enter my my parents addresses and home phone
But I guess it was like, you know to
Emergency numbers in case I get on the big screen. They cut the footage of like your parents and at home
Yeah, like are like fucking like home invasion about to take place and you're just staring at the fucking
I
Mind stone
And it cuts to the other player and he's just happy as a clam is just like tapping. I use I use my stone
I use my you want me to do. I don't know what it was going to do. I just used it
Yeah, and they know to be prepared that means they had to send people to
Organize what the mind stone would do if you're in top 32. There are people at your parents house right now
Waiting for that call
If you use mind stone leading up to the match or the person you decide to use it against
They change all like they they change all of his placements and all the brackets and he's like last or he's out
Or whatever and he's like, wait, no, what no, there's a hey, hey, there's there's a problem. I'm not and they're like
Are you sure because all the documentation says you you got blown up in pools
Like I used my time stone. You don't have to show me my parents having sex anymore
Oh god, yeah, I I would
Out of everything I'd want someone to use time stone against someone else's stone
It would be really fun. That would be the second it'd be really fun
That's the thing that money in the bank money in the bank needs a counter break. Yeah
Which could be set up by having a different event, right?
Or something or some type of like other belt or briefcase
A clipboard that you could just throw at the guy and then it just it just takes away his thing
God countering needs to be more like life events like a briefcase. That's just debt in the bank
And if you cash in your debt in the bank that it nullifies the money in the bank and you get zero
Yeah, you have to
There's a briefcase where a guy opens it up and you get bumped down to nxt
Like I want to see someone come running in with their briefcase
And then someone else just goes no debt in the bank and then he just stops running
And then just turns around and walks back
You go back to the developmental. Yeah
You go to tough enough
Oh, that's good stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I I just heard the name battle the stones. I'm like, yeah
That's cool name for for attorney series on marvel and that's it. That's all I thought that's all I saw
No, totally totally understandable why no one would notice my eyes have opened. Yeah
Yeah, so this is a ton of fun and I can't wait to see what's gonna happen next week in toronto
But anyway, no, so like that's what that's what basically what I've been doing and practicing
You say you're gonna go to toronto
I'm going to toronto if you can remember if you have the the time go to that russian fucking vodka bar. I hear you
It's not like I'm not sure I might have the time but I don't know
Yeah, just saying if you do have the time it's it's gonna be a tightly packed weekend. All right, because I just know you'll like it
Um, if I can if I can get some people but also like the canada cup
It's it's it's a lap chi event and that's the he's the canadian dawn that like fucking the dawn really
Yeah of the fgc. So like he does big parties organized for the official stuff. Anyway, you know
Um, I want to do there's nothing better than drunk in japanese players. I bet I like I
Emotions come out. I promise you it's the best
Um, anyway, so it's like getting good marvel. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Um, and
Did you buy any of those costumes or no? I bought I bought the fucking spencer bullshit
What's it mccollet groiter just tamar did he come in a pack? I just bought the singles
Okay, because I'm not look I'm not I look I'm not paying fucking 40 dollars for a pack of no not for all of them
If you don't play like 80 of the cast exactly and I'm deaf and I'm so I'm just I'm picking
What I like if I want to either stare at it
Or use it. I picked right. I bought two
So I bought ghost rider and miss maro. I'm not miss marvel captain marvel. Yeah
Um, you know, well, what should mccollet uh, uh, uh, coach the of the spencer play right?
Felicia's don't don't call me a friend if you have this shitty spencer outfit
And I bought it and I'm just like
But but but the the color four version basically turns them into giralt
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah with white hair the white hair
So I'm like, you know what first I thought it was a different costume all together as a quo
Yeah, that's the only color that doesn't look horrendous on him and so I'm playing that one
And yeah, I so I bought that and I bought morrigan
Just yeah morrigan's is good just so that I can stare at it on the title screen because it's really nice
It would reflect on the title screen. It's a pretty it's a pretty title screen with her on it
I like her her her a little uh, like, uh, what is it called night warriors?
Kind of candy girl outfit during her victory one of her victory screens. It's like her
Casual wear when she it's not no, it's not the white shirt and red pants
It's like it's like an oolala outfit kind of no, no, I know what it is
But I'm just saying where I where I thought I came from
I thought it was another victory pose because yeah, she's got the white dress
The white top and the white top red the remi outfit basically
Yeah, bitch. I had a dream remi was revealed for street fighter five this morning. Wow. That's that shows where my head's at
Yeah, no, that's
um
Also
Why would you need remi and now zeku? Yeah, that's true
Uh dino looks better than regular dante. He does his model like like almost every dlc and like
Post-launch thing. It looks better. Yeah, and of course, uh, uh, and the fact that his dt is
Accurate, yeah, the colors inversion is nice. And of course, uh, mr. Fix it. Yes. Did you get that or no?
I didn't I didn't because Hulk's garbage now, but um, but it is it is. I'm happy to see that
His voice isn't different. Don't they right? No, same
Maybe cool, but oh my god, I'll hire a whole new voice actor for just what cost justice does it
They make different characters. That's true. It's true
They like they had just has the skin that's black lightening, but injustice had more than a shoestring. It's true. Um,
I
Yeah, no, no, I think uh, mr. Fix it
Is probably one of my favorites of that set. I'd rather him have the suspenders and the work shirt
Rather than be the gang the gas is so cool. All right. The pinstripe is good. Yeah, but that is I'd say that's fourth best hulk
In in totality, you know in hulk in all hulk of that, you know, yeah that I know I think that's that's yeah
um
and
Yeah, I don't know what else but I mean, uh, obviously like
the the the monster hunter stuff is is
It's you know
It's in there. It's it's in there. It's interesting twitter posts that have big spaces between the letters
asking for fan art
And everyone's like the just look up from the original no give it to me
So the biggest problem is this character's nameless character. Yeah is the name of a video game making it impossible to actually
You know figure out what you're giving me fan art of the street fighter
You know, you know
Anyway, so there's that other thing I did this week was
Billy had a little birthday tournament. Yeah, I'm sorry. I missed that
Went out to it had a good time. Uh, he picked some really good
mini games
That I had never played or seen before like games or like variant rule set on a game
Like specifically games. So yeah, like there's um, like you went back to the
Like like from on the we we played like a curvy
mini game where you're throwing the stars
It was the four player curvy like return to dreamland game. Yeah, and he was playing he's playing the
The the star is mini game star one is actually super good. Really fun, right? We did like that
and then like the next round of the tournament was um
A game in wario. No, no that game in wario. Uh, wario where
Like, uh, we you game where you had to like, uh, pull back a slingshot of little like, um
Voxel characters. Yeah, I think we played that at the last one he had but you weren't able to come to that one
Right, okay. You didn't play the one where you look for people in the crowd. Did you? No, no, no
We just played the the slingshot one and you saw that one's good
You sling and it's way better than that one flip flip game that that that came out. Yeah
Whatever the fuck that was called
But anyway, and yeah, you just slingshot these little like like, you know
Cube characters onto platforms and depending on the stage different amounts of nintendo bullshit happen
You know like if it's an iceberg then it like tips over
Or it's like a like a teeter totter seesaw and a bird comes over and shits on one and makes it heavier and
You know, I switch the words nintendo bullshit would flash on the screen as it happens
Yeah, well because the because I didn't know what game it was right. I didn't know what like mini game
This belong to type of thing
And when I saw a seagull fly up and just take my box and drop it in the ocean because I was first place
I'm like, this is a first party
Right rubber banding happens in video games, but never does any company besides nintendo rub your face
In the fact that fuck you for being first place
The the thing with it is that like in the mini game stuff like even mario party or what you just described
I'm like it's kind of fine to me always in a mini game
Sort of that framework
But it's only when it gets really really bad where I'm like no no to this
Is like mario 3d world the four player one simultaneous 3d one
That's the one where like some of that nintendo bullshit, but is in the framework of a tight platformer
Yeah, that's where that gets the most frustrating. I'm not done anyone's first although
I think there was someone gets a crown
Depending if they've done the best during the level I forget I forget what it was
But that's where that i'm like that's horseshit now
And I mean it like it was already hard enough when like you know
You're dealing with that on itself, but then you have four people running around in this camera scrolling and shit
I saw leon won a lot of these competitions
He did the updates because I was at my parents house and i'm on my phone the entire time and i'm just like
Liam definitely had the advantage of knowing the game every game
Well, you know what I mean in advance a little bit there, but he did very good too and uh the
um
There was also a tech in bowl
Which I misheard and didn't know what what are you talking about because I thought we're gonna play tech in ball
Right, but it's not tech in ball tech in seven had an update with tech in bowl in it
Yeah, I think I remember which I which I didn't play and it's actually a full-fledged bowling game
That doesn't it's not like it's recycling the system in any way. It's just bowling. It's just bowling
It's a dedicated bowling game and it's very good
Was there anything tech in e about it you pick you pick tech in characters
Oh, that's and and depending on who you pick in the cast you have different strengths and weaknesses
Okay, so if you're left-handed right-handed you're strong. It's just like marata. Just like I like bowling
Yeah, and everyone has a different like, you know, uh bowler profile
Yeah, it'd be cool if like Paul could do like a phoenix smash or to the ball like they can get a special move
Yeah, so I mean, you know so that like I just
Like as someone who just plays like local casuals and and and you know like tournament stuff
Like I haven't gone to that mode and really messed with any of tech in seven drops out of the tourney scene
But tech in the bowl takes over. Yeah
well, it's just like it
It becomes a little difficult for people with accents because when they say let's play tech in bowl
Yeah, I'm like
Which one did you say there?
So
Anyway, tech in sports
Mm-hmm. It should just be a compilation like a mini game collection. I think that's what we're building up to
I think so eventually
um
And uh, yeah, the the winners got to pick from his little bag of gifts. Okay. He had little uh,
little cam and rider figures and
Uh, uh, there was a single funko pop
Who was it? It was bb8. So it looked
Okay, it looked normal. Um
And then like a couple of just like keychains and bullshit. So that was a fun time a fun time
um
I also watched uh
Thus spake kishi be rohan
And uh, it's the jojo
Uh side story about rohan
Yes, is the anime or movie? Yeah, okay
They animated. Okay. So there's a side story about about rohan, you know, like heaven's door. Yeah, all right
um, so he has a bunch of side stories because uh,
fucking araki loves him
and uh
Even though he says he's not his favorite character. I think he's full of shit just like
A fuckface that didn't watch twin peaks. Um
Like uh, does he say who his favorite character is? He I think I think at a
Like as the interview people tend to quote is him saying d.o. Okay, and then I think uh
I saw a source that had him saying joe skei, but it's like
even if
You say these things. I don't believe you that this self insert mangaka
I you know, and he says he actually goes out and says
I know you'd think that this manga artist is me a lot of people do
But actually we're very different because we have different work ethics and things like that
And I'm just like what the fuck ever araki. That's cool manga strong guy
That does everything amazingly is clearly your favorite character lobby to say that like this might not be my favorite character
But he's the most interesting and I sure do sure stuff with that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No, I don't think that's araki's case at all
I believe I do that all the time. I mean, you know, uh
I I play samus, but I love kirby in smash brothers, for example. Yeah, okay, you know what I mean
I play blanko, but I love makoto, but whatever. So no, I definitely understand that yeah
And he you know, he says joe skei, but it's just like okay, but where's the
extra stories
Besides the main story about joe skei give us some more then you know
So like like where's the receipts?
Show me and the people that get side stories are
You know, uh, what should we call it?
I think yeah fugo from from part five and then
Rohan gets them and then deal of course gets his big book of like philosophies
So there's and then you know, occasionally a couple other things
But anyway, uh, Rohan has his side story about like random adventures in mario
And they just picked a random one to animate which are also randomly numbered
So the whole thing is incredibly random using
but
It was fun. Okay, and it was wacky. How long is it? Uh, 28 minutes. It was a single episode
Super short. Um, I hope they do more because david production is the fucking best
um
And I would not mind these little like stop gap
like
Which are taste tests before we have to wait long for part five to come
Right because that's gonna take a fucking while. But like it would be nice to have these little pieces of you know
To tide you little morsels exactly to whet your appetite. Yeah. Yeah almost like we had the levi side story in uh attack on
I'm a fan of those. I'm a fan of these of little ove oveys
Um, I haven't watched any episodes since the first one just as an aside
But I saw a trailer or I saw a clip. I was just like wait what it's like side story of geese
During this fucking kof cg show destiny
There's one episode one fully credited episode. I researched it. That's like we dedicate an entire episode to side story of geese howard
and
Like you think marvel has a shoestring budget
Not only is the cg bad, right? It's like done in china and you can just tell that it's just like
The side story of geese howard is done all via artwork this time
How is it the interviews from uh
The fucking is it the interviews from the the the journalist in the tech end story? Uh
Yeah, it's about that level. It's about that level
So it does the thing where it's like, you know, what's canon?
The animes and they go geese howard was the brother of wolf gang crosser
And they just grew up and then geese howard is like fuck this. I'm gonna move to south town
And it shows tongue furu going. I will teach you
And even though this is the side story of geese howard
I want to see the side story of tongue furu as to why the fuck
He would ever teach geese howard like as a kid. He's still evil looking
So all this is all 2d is all 2d artwork just sliding into frame
And it just it it just makes geese look stupider and weaker that way
That's just that's just an aside starts before out of fighting geese like before
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah like baby goes to wolf gang howard's are saying the exact same things he said in the second fatal fury anime
Like oh, you're too weak get out of here, baby brother geese
But in this one, they say a geese. I mean in the anime they say that geese is
A half brother to krauser in k-wap destiny. They say they're full brothers
Uh, it was always half as far as I knew yes in destiny. They're like no, they're full brothers
They don't even mention half. Okay. Sorry just an aside. I'm just like, yeah, but I'm just like so then why it isn't
krauser give a fuck about
Jeff bogart or any of that shit and why is he hanging out in germany? We're an armor
Like what part of being a howard?
No, why yeah, who ah, how is his name how are the howards and the krauser is related
Even though it was their father even though it was a side story
It didn't actually explain anything and how badass must their father have been and who calls their one son wolf gang one son
Geese
Anyway, you know whose balls did they come from? That's what I need to know
I didn't look at any clips, but I saw also in the episode list side story of benny marth. Oh Jesus
If anyone needed backstory that better just be a visual novel of him like hitting on everybody
Yeah, yeah
Jesus Christ. Okay. I need to I need to like
Do I maybe I need to rub my eyes and look at that again?
Because I just I'm like this
Yes, you do when it's all done. I don't fucking I think 11 episodes came out. Do you know who's who's who's in it though?
Uh, american sports team is back. Yeah, they are brian baller's in there
And fucking uh, but I I saw a screenshot and I was like, who's that? I'm like, oh my god
Lucky glauber
No, it was brian baller, but I was just like who the fuck is that but is it the whole team or is it just
I just saw a screenshot of brian baller. I just assumed that his team is in there
Because I I think I saw when I mentioned this anime or cg whatever a few weeks ago
It's a re it's a reboot of of 94
Yeah, they get an invite said this is the first time kof has been uh three versus three
Yeah teams and everyone's like whoa cool
So yeah, but it's like why would you bring back brian instead of lucky or heavy d the people that everyone loves?
I don't know because they're fucking radical
Uh
Anyway, um, yeah, that was me. Okay. Uh, I I had time to play a couple games
Uh, well fire emblem warriors
Being the most notable one like I had forgot it was coming out until Liam was like
Kind of put me on blast a bit where he was streaming fire emblem warriors on his on his twitch
And he was like, oh, yeah, he just started it and there's this clip. It's it's not to the arcana heart levels
But it says matt is now playing troll and I
Nice and he just goes why
Why
Because he told you to no, but this is after we had done a video. Oh, Jesus christ. Okay, not then I'm gonna explain
What happened, please and what happened is that I installed
fire emblem warriors
And then what was the last game that I played on my switch troll and I
Because we did a video and then I instead of saying like closed software now
I pressed a and I resumed it for a spell and that immediately tells everybody tells everybody that I was playing troll
And I for a bit look at this fucker
So um instead I immediately shut it down and uninstalled it nice and played a bit of fire emblem warriors
Like uh, you're you you didn't do the video with us
But um when I when we took a look at warriors all stars the tecmo one
I was just like, oh man. Fuck this premise
Fuck these new characters that they just put in like I hate this story. I'm just like I'm just so not into a gameplay
It's like, yeah, all right
But like fire memorials since like every couple of fire emblems is like a whole new universe
For a second that you're gonna go man. Fuck this gameplay and these new characters and bullshit. Anyway, but troll and I
So I was playing a bit more of it and I really got into it turns around a little bit
Um, but since every fire emblem game has like a different kingdom every couple of ones
They have a new kingdom and new characters a uh, a brother and sister
Uh blonde and they're both like, you know one's more responsible than the other one's more of a hot head the guy
And I'm just like, yeah
This totally fits fire emblem. It's not like who the fuck are these people?
You know, it's it's it's the same kind of jarringness that uh, what's her?
Because the sorcerer girl
Awful sorcerer girl from Hyrule warriors one with the books. Yeah, sure. Um, sure. Yeah
Exactly short name. Yeah. Yeah. Maya. No. See is the evil priestess. Okay. Anyway, but you know, I'm talking about because it's like
Oh, these are clearly new characters that they made for this
And even though these are clearly new characters made for fire emblem warriors, I'm like, well, it that's fine
The the the really I don't know a thing that eases me into a warriors game is English voice acting honestly
Even if it's not stellar, I think the voice acting is pretty good
It kind of smooths the experience a bit. So I just don't feel like I'm playing muso. Yeah, you know what I mean
Like the samurai warriors dynasty warriors style thing. Are there uh, as lana are their, um designs like
equally as
Like inserti or are they like they at least fire?
No, they fit in really well. I find the the the the brother and the sister team
That's the two main playable because I wouldn't have been as bothered by lana and sia if they looked like zelda characters
Yeah, they didn't but they completely don't but why does the new design for impa look like it fits the best
It really does and even links. Well, they all do actually links
Scarf as cool as it is and as we both own it. Yeah, it's not
I could see I could see a main line. I could see a main line zelda doing that
But then the scarf wouldn't just be a scarf. Yeah, it would be a special item
It would be the the subtitle of the game, you know scarf of destiny. Yeah
Yeah, fucking this cool scarf the spirit scarf, you know like some horse shape, but it would be a total thing
Yeah, uh, so the first mission it has you do is like it's it's one of those
In media res things where it's a battle that took that's already bad happening
And you you can just go to every room and there's a new fire emblem character
So crom is right there and crom's like actually like really high up in fire element characters for me a fucking love crom
And you just press down on the deep bat to switch to any hero that's like near you
And i'm like oh fucking crom just you get you get as soon as you switch every character
You get to see their super right then and the and like I didn't get to play I didn't have time to play
It's a whole bunch. I played shows you they're super right away. Yeah, that's pretty smart two or three missions
I played and just like the I'm not sure you've seen it
But like the super transitions where like the camera like goes from behind their back
To in front of them then it zooms in to the the cutaway of their eyes
Then smoothly goes back out then they perform the wrestling animation super like it's super slick
Like it looks amazing whenever it happens and
All I saw was a screenshot of uh, marth talking shit about crom
Yeah
Saying that despite despite what he looks like which is me
Don't worry about noble blood or whatever the fucking i'm like
He's a slightly buffer version of you, but you're all the same you but cool there marth
You're all the same
Um, it's hyrule warriors that when I when I started here playing through it
It felt like it and having just played warriors all stars, which
Didn't I don't know what the differences are. I don't know what they do
I don't know what nintendo what their input is when it's them, but it just automatically felt better and cooler
Are they blatantly, uh, just putting together people from timelines and and generations that shouldn't exist
I didn't get that far yet to find out what the exactly the
Entry was because it the main story happens in this new kingdom for this game
And I assume it's it's holy like in zelda. It's dimensions. Yeah
Warriors all stars it was dimensions, but it but I mean again
I'm not that versed in fire emblem, but I do know that like it spans like again children's generations of children
and marth and roy and elliwood and and icke and crom and
You know all like all these characters like don't exist in the same span of 30 years of life
I don't know
Yeah, um
I think it'd be cool if like someone made a spell and then just shot a bunch of chains into the portal and just
Yanked a fire emblem character out of the perspective
Timelines would like I just want like steal them. Sure, you know can nap them almost. Yeah, that'd be fun
I played that I played a beat him up that I had confused for another one. It was called viking something
I remember seeing it was like line switching. It was it was like the guardian hero style
You're on different planes or like cool
Got that princess that
Code of princess game
I thought it was like that, but I was like, no, this is a different beat him up altogether. It's called wolver blade
And you mean so you're referring to the line system from garo densetsu. Well, I'm
Legend of the hungry wolf in a beat him up style
Yes, it is the line system from garo densets. Okay, but a wolver blade is is like, you know that that that uh early
That early story of of the roman ninth legion going into like
Ancient britain and there'd just be like the pikes this vicious group of like barbarians
It was like britain's barbarian barbarians or maybe it was
Scottish I that's where I get confused
But it was like this famous story about the ninth legion went there to go talk to there the barbarian king
And this never came back and the ninth legion was super strong. Oh, no, I've seen movies of this. What happened to them
Okay, exactly
So this seems to be based on that where the
Ancient romans are going into rustle up shit and you play as three characters a woman
Big huge dude in like middle of the road guy and it's one of those beat him up. So it's very flash animated
It's like, yeah
Lots of squashy
Not as squashy as you think but if I show you a screen show you'd be like, oh, yeah
Okay, I've seen that before maybe and I started playing it for a bit
I'm like, yeah, this is okay
Then just as I started to go like yeah, I'm gonna about about to turn this off
It's like, oh you get this additional web like the y button on the the switch was unused
I was pressing why nothing was happening
Then I picked up a giant axe and then he then I started pressing y y like x and whatever
Then he started doing some more combos and then it started going there. You have executions
Also, you can call in wolf strikers now. Okay, and I'm like, okay
Um, and I had 2d. Yeah, I had oddly good voice acting
And I had lore that you pick up like notes on the battlefield of this beat him up
and then I'm like
I'm not gonna uninstall this. What's it called again?
Wolver blade like w u l v e r
Wolfer, Wolfer blade, yeah
So, yeah, I'll give that more of a go because I was just as I was starting to get like me
I was like, oh, there's some actual stuff here. It's not like a
I saw like a fight and rage where it's all like crazy combos and juggling and canceling
It's not on the surface. Yeah, but it was more than what I thought so
I also went through the second episode of life is strange
before the storm
with Liam
lift bits
Very very strong second episode
Unfortunately, the game still actually doesn't have a thing
It doesn't have we thought that maybe after the first episode they'd introduce some mechanic
Like time rewind not not really because it can't because it's because it's people and it's not, you know
But we thought there'd be something like there'd be some other supernatural element and there really isn't
I I kind of assumed I was like remember like we talked about it
But I was wondering I'm like, what are they gonna do with that and then
It does like thinking like they might just tell the story normally. Yeah, and they are but
They they did a weird thing in the first episode
They almost seemed to hint that someone has some type of power
But after the second episode that doesn't seem to happen
But the second episode has some great story beats the ending was very strong
And like another three hour episode
Like after coming off walking dead season three with its
Amazing 53 minute long
Episode like the fact that they are able to squeeze three hours out of this and a demon feel like you were squeezing
I'm like, yeah those scenes were important that that part was cool
There's a whole section willy of the game where you have to be in William Shakespeare's The Tempest
You told me and oh, you told you yeah, and remember your lines. Yeah, very very good sequence
I was like that was pretty fun that and the the dnd thing sound like the
Yeah, the dnd thing was the standout part of the first episode
But like this was just because you had to look at where the tape was on the stage to know where you're supposed to stand
So sad that like, you know, that's doing fun stuff and
Over at telltale like it's just it's like it's been watered down to
Like multiple seasons of things that are like, all right, I guess, you know
I mean, we had a we had an okay time with batman, but we had an okay time with batman
Yeah, and I mean exactly and like batman is unfortunately
at the end of the day closer to
well, uh
Game of thrones then it is to say to a season one walking day. Yeah, you know, and then
What guardings of the galaxy you've played I haven't touched. It's not it's not really any different
Um, I mean there are some differences, but they don't amount to anything meaningful. Yeah, it kind of feels like
This is just the state that telltale is in unless
Someone really good comes in and writes the story. You know right now. I don't know of any
I
Tales of the borderlands is the only one that you bang on about it
I've always been meaning to play it for a bit and I think that's because that universe affords them to be crazy
And weird and different right? Yeah, and I don't want to over hype it because it's not the second coming
So I it's just to stand out in a bunch of okay of okay to man at games
And so that's why I saw I'm like, I'm think I'm gonna stop banging that drum
Yeah, maybe because it's like, all right, we get it. It's good, you know, but like yeah, it's really it's not
It's just it's just very very good compared to the other shape
If those rumors are true that they're making a 007 telltale game
Um, like that will be interesting in the fact that james bond in video game form has just been this killing machine
I'd like to be james bond where you talk your way out of things. I think that would be interesting that one different
That would be but at this point don't not is about to
Like remember this isn't don't not though. That's true. This is outsourced to other companies
Yeah, I forget that it's name their work don't know. I was working on a proper sequel. Yeah, this is a thing. Yeah, you're right
I completely but
Even in the framework of this being a prequel because some of the feedback the first episode was like
What's the point of all this?
Like we know what's going to happen and I'm like, yeah, it's true a bit
But it's still being slightly more interesting than every telltale game that I've played recently
Like it's still not to forget wolf among us, which is also very good and we'll get a second season
Yeah, well, among us is good. Well, that's don't because it did because it had a much crazier universe
And it did some interesting things like a few interesting things over the other telltale fair
um
And really quickly I've been watching a show you might be interested in it called mine hunters
Which is a very forgettable name. I remember there being a game or the uh movie
Where there it was ll cool j and matt dillon or someone and it was called mine hunters
And it was about people being connected. But anyway, it was a this lame action movie
But yeah, that could either be like a h val kilmer. I want to say like that could be uh, uh, a netflix show or a
shitty
True true tv special. Yeah, that could be a million things
But mine hunters I heard about it months ago and I was like what and then I forgot about it
And then I started watching I'm like, oh my god because the first two episodes directed by david fincher and I'm like
Right, this is his fbi
Profiling show in the 70s that takes place in the 70s that I heard about like a year ago and oh shit
This is what it is finally I can watch it
um
Because I'd forgot about it because I was excited for initially and it basically is
Here is the fulcrum point where the fbi decides we need to start making profiles of serial killers
We need to start thinking about why they do what they do so that we can stop this
And they're being resistance in the fbi going no, that's bullshit. Just find who did modern show set in the 70s
Yes, yes modern shows set in the 70s
So charles manson has been caught
Yeah, and they constantly talk about other serial killers and they interview them
With like questionnaires and like try to push their buttons to get them to speak out like all right
So why did you have that severed head and why did you make that severed head go down on you?
Can you
Explain that please to us. So, um, it's brilliantly acted. Um, it doesn't really have anyone particularly famous
It's fine more of a low-key cast like the the main girl from the the show fringes in it, I guess
Uh, but it's like if you like, um, Hannibal Lecter if you like, uh, the the movie zodiac
Which david fincher also did like it's just great great great drama and
Uh, I can't really say much about it other than that. Um, it's 10 episodes and I'm like on
I'm about to start the eighth one and uh, yeah highly recommended another big director makes his silver screen
Transition because it's the only way to do it these days direct a few episodes of house of cards. I want to say david fincher
Maybe I could be thinking of someone else you might be right. I think early on early on
I think early on. Yeah, maybe erin sorkin. I don't know. Um
I also know yeah, I never finished the newsroom either. Yeah, I know I knew that I I don't think I know
I don't know anyone who did but it starts really strong. Anyway, I did
Uh, so yeah, that's really good. I highly recommend it
cool, um
All right
With that, let's take a quick word from our sponsors
spoonsers
This week the podcast is spoon-serred by
It's probably no good if you start joking around and messing up messing up the name, but uh, no, it's bluehosts
Bluehost is the top rated top rated website provider
Powers over two million websites. If you want to build a website
You know where to go bluehost.com
We no longer have a website. No, we don't but if we did we would take it to bluehost.com
We'd get we'd get a 50%
When we signed up at bluehost.com slash sbfcast and if we did sign up we would get
Really powerful tools that let us let us customize everything we need
We'd get the top recommended wordpress host since 2005
That's the reliability we would want to use
In fact, dare I say that if anything ever did go wrong
We would want to rely on the 24 7 tech support online resources and expert
services with that 99.9 percent repeating uptime guarantee
But we don't no
But if we did
But if we did we would head on over to bluehosts don't believe us
Bluehost.com slash sbfcast. That's bluehost.com slash sbfcast. Thank you bluehost. Thank you bluehost
also big thanks to
World of warships
I thought you're gonna say
Thanks to world star hip hop. I mean
No
We're not there yet
Okay
But if you ever wanted to captain some of the greatest world ships world ships
Warships I like it though. I like world ships are cool concepts
But a warships of world war two
Then you should check out the world of warships free to play historical online combat game for wargaming
You know the guys that made world of tanks the oh shit gigantic
massive like
Like that one like that couple of years would go to every con and the biggest booth would be the world of tanks booth
Yeah, that one here comes world of warships. Okay
You command a massive naval fleet featuring some of history's most iconic war vessels like the uss arizona
The uss indianapolis and the uss enterprise
Yeah, no the warship. Okay, because that's an unfair battle
And of course four classes of ships from over eight nations fighting in strategically designed environments in every matches you need experience
Yeah, you got endless hours of strategy tactical gameplay all that stuff
And it's a perfect balance of action and strategic gameplay. I like me some boat battles. You do you do
I've said a thing or two about how much I enjoy coming out fucking love big. Yeah world of warships
You're wet your whistle and it's it's not coming out soon. It's available now
Damn if you head on over to command warships.com
You can start your naval adventure when you enter the code
Friendcast 17 as in the year
Friendcast 17 and you get a ton of bonus content courtesy of the podcast
Includes a free premium ship the cruiser aurora
A pile of in-game currency and all that good world war two naval experience all those good feelings
You know the fun stuff the fun part. Hey, man. Yeah
There are some unfun places you could have been
That's not one of them. No
On the beaches not a good time
It's not called world of beaches is it in the water in the water just off the beaches
Not a good time in the boats
party
Great time in the boats
Everybody's loving it looking out at those beaches going fuck. I'm glad
I'm glad I'm over here those boat
Check out world of warships today at command warships.com
And uh start playing. Thank you world of warships. Thank you so much
Let's get into the news two things before we get into the news one
What type of fucked up situation would it have to have been for the uss enterprise to go back into the past and start blowing up us ships?
They can't let these fuckers win it turns out the prime directive was the biggest mistake of all time
Oh, no, we gotta stop this from happening. We have to have the anti prime directive
Where we destroy everything as much culture as possible. I just imagine like, you know the the the starts of
Star treks you've seen enough where it's just like the enterprise looks fully drifting. It's a star date. Whatever. Yeah
Imagine that imagine the same speed
But it's shooting lasers in all directions as it's just sailing through the universe every light in the sky is an enemy
Just like but it's still star date
2.5
We are continuing to smoke all motherfuckers
In the galaxy engage engage engage fire torpedoes
like the
The enterprise of the bridge is constantly doing the shaking thing
The cards in his ready room and he's like Earl gray tea hot
People are having sex on the holodack and they're like fire phasers
You open up you open up time portals and just fire bullets into them
You don't even go in through you just stick your hand in and start firing even in the nerdy science decks
Where they're like studying life forms or whatever like little plants
They're just like slowly dropping a little like bit of water with molecules into a thing very slowly they go fire torpedoes
Fire phasers set all phasers to kill
Just just gassing entire computers trying to process all these orders around them. Oh, dude, that's strong
Like the ultimate death machine
The deep space nine just spinning and firing a constant beam
It's like a schmup an endless laser that just spins and cuts everything
Or they create this new enterprise. That's like the ichoruga. It's like
switching polarities and shooting like different polarity thoughts and everything
No, we're continuing to wipe the universe clean
Oh
Our five-year mission. Yeah, fuck them all
100 and billion 10 dead galaxies
Uh
The double final frontier
Uh, let's let's get into the news. Yeah, there there there'd be news this week. Yeah
Uh, all right. Let's well, let's check the front page of neogav
Oh
I like this rebranding. I like this new 505.com. They got going seems like uh,
Seems kind of catchy. Yeah, I thought the gaming age forums was uh
Was a thing that would people kind of you know latched on to but uh, well, well, let's see here. What do we got right now?
Yeah, what's the current?
What's the status? Yeah
Down for scheduled maintenance now, this is the longest scheduled maintenance neogav is ever had
Hey, yeah, it's scheduled. It's yeah. No, this means always in the cards was planned
Please be patient. What that one weekend in october. Who we got a bunch of scheduled maintenance coming up?
Yeah
There's really not much to say personally. I've never been a member. I've
I I know that it's a super useful thing that you guys, uh, browse the hell of a lot more than me
Um, but it made many a testing day go by much faster. Yeah
You know, so I mean I understand that there goes that useful gaming resources
source
Uh
Though apparently for very good reasons. Yeah, because holy fuck
Uh, whoo
You know things are fucked up when just
Okay, I was on neogav like on a saturday or whatever this past saturday and I saw some weird threads pop up and I was like
That really didn't understand or like care what was going on and really
Yeah, some weird threads are popping up. All right, whatever
Uh, then I come back like the next day like morning and I go and I see twitter and it says trending
Neogav and I'm like
Oh
Then I read up about everything. I'm like, oh
Okay, all right
Sure. Yeah, if only you could have applied that strict new user registration policy to your pants. Yeah
You got one in the you got one in that's all I needed. That's all I needed
Uh, let's check out what's happening on
That you there's not much news this week because you can't go to neogav to look what's up
No, I was gonna see I was gonna I was gonna talk about
The the the fun the fun coming out of the company. Yes known as raw thrills
Who I'm surprised you haven't just moved down to and applied to work at
Because they seem to be doing everything you love these days. I have a follow-up thing to this
I you may not be aware of but the first thing is like, yeah
I just saw on this website arcade heroes that they just had this
Glorious looking flyer that talks about
Power income woolly
Strike up the profits motherfucker. I mean to be fair. I'll beat them up to be fair. It's uh,
It's it's you know, they're not going as hard as they used to because I think but the fact that there's still a big
From 90s arcade flyers
So I think they know that people are seeing these publicly now
So it's caught on and as a result they're not being as blatant about it
But they're going like hey check out the big hd screen full of yeah old ad
Appeals to all ages, but also don't forget about your turtle power income though. You're gonna get lots of money if you buy this you guys
I thought it'd be funny if it was like man. I love getting profits. Yeah, like I love being an arcade owner
Profits on the half show
Yeah, yeah
So yeah, raw thrills makers of games like Jurassic park and cruising blasts tonight. I dine on profits
Is making a ninja turtle uh beat them up for players
um, so
They also put out a game an arcade game right now. That's in test not like widespread
Injustice arcade. Yeah, so I've seen that which is a trading card thing with no, it's not a fighting game. I've seen I've seen
Footage of that machine too and people are like well fuck this game. It's not a fighting game
They're like well, it's that's fine because it's not made for fighting game crowd
It's made for like people that like collecting cards and stats and superheroes and I was like, yeah
So this uses apparently almost the exact same cabinet same speaker placement and all that
But I'm glad because I look at this and there's joysticks and three buttons
And I'm like, yes, that's all I care about
And while we don't have like direct screen direct feed screenshots or like videos of the game
The one screenshot that's on the arcade cabinet. I'm like that looks like a beat them up
I like that
And yeah, this is gonna be this game is gonna be formally shown at an arcade
Um
I'm trying to get some information because I'm like, why am I not?
Why am I not there? Why am I not attending the i a a pa convention?
Do you remember the old the international association of amusement parks?
and
What do you remember the old old arcade?
Um, uh convention like back in the night and attractions a o u it would be like the arcade machine
Yeah
That was my below e3. Well for me. It was always jamma. Jamma too. Yeah, I forgot
Jamma was where life happened
life began at jamma dude and it ended and game pro would write about it
And that's that's why I loved game pro because they actually fucking had pages
Dedicated to what was shown at jamma and that was the only place to find out about it
I don't think jamma is a thing anymore. The japanese arcade machine
Con basically or like trade show is that still a thing? I'm sure it's just smaller scale or it doesn't get much reported
I would be surprised if a variant of it exists still but like
um
According to wikipedia
It says I saw started in 1991
Yeah, okay, so in 2013 jamma began collaborating with a o u that's what I was thinking of and now they have a show called japan and he's in the tech
So, yeah, there you go. That's fine
So
The actual ninja turtle arcade machine like it looks like the cabinet looks amazing and all three corners
All three corners all four corners of the of the joysticks and like your turtle collars
You know, it's nice that
they're sticking with
like a
Version of the turtles and they haven't shifted to a new look again
Because I saw some people complaining that the Nickelodeon thing's on the way out like it's it had its last season
Everyone's like, well, why are you using this thing? It's over. But but but okay
So what else are you supposed to do because I'm like back once upon a time
Even after the ninja turtle show was done
A ninja turtle still looked like a ninja turtle
Yeah, right this idea that we'd have to switch to a new art style like based on the
2000s show that came out and then perhaps another version like I'm like
We don't need to reboot the look every time because there's a ninja turtle comic that's based on this style
It's more for kids. But then there's the more adult older comic. That's a different art style
Yeah, so there's like a million
There's literally a million art styles
But like I've always been fine with the Nickelodeon look for them
And if you want to appeal to the widest range, I don't think you're gonna offend anybody greatly with that was designed
So those are not the fucking Michael Bay movie designs. I don't think anyone's gonna be angry. Well, here's the thing, right?
You have three versions from the famous from tv. Yeah, you have
Two versions from the movies
Yeah, yeah, and you've got like 80 versions from video games and and comics. Well comics
Yeah, you've got all comics
You've got original and then like depends on the artist then is the archie ones
There's a million right but but but right but uh, and archie was kind of like the old show, you know
but um
My point was that video games always had
Fucking a different look a different style per game, right?
Like the person the company making the game if it was not licensed from like Nickelodeon or
Someone else that was involved. They'd be like basically make your own turtle designs. Okay
Well, I don't give this out to for free too many. I mean give this idea for free. Okay. Okay. Okay. What you got?
What you got should be called
turtles forever
And every level you jump into the new art style
You jump into black and white so
Video game version of turtles forever. Yes to show absolutely 100 percent 100
Like hire me a thousand percent whoever. Yeah
wasted
Now turtles forever is like 10 years old now. Yes still also turtles forever still like the funnest thing you can ever watch
It's the best thing digit turtles ever created by man
uh, here's the here
Only potential issues from a licensing pov. There's probably some stuff that the Nickelodeon
Brand can't do maybe perhaps because this is Nickelodeon's Ninja Turtles. Yeah, yeah, sure
So they maybe only have control over that but you're right
You're right
Their 100% should be a turtles forever video game. Um, I did read a few I think in the main
thread of this article did say stuff like um
You know, this is this is uh, gonna be a beat them up
We want to expand upon a little bit so there's gonna you can even see it a bit in the screen
Shut the fuck up. What turtles forever. Yes when you jump into different levels
You've got some levels to play like the nest game. You've got some levels to play like turtles in time
You've got some levels to play like, uh, uh, well, what else do you want to play?
I was gonna say
Yeah, well, I was gonna I like where your heart was though. What was the other company rocksteady? No, we're not rocksteady
What was the other company?
Konami made the ones based on the 2000 out of out of the shadows
That sucked
It's a real bad. Okay. Well the iconic ones turtles in time and
Uh, uh, uh, the other not turtles in time. Uh, man, uh, manhattan project. Manhattan project. Yeah, that was those
You play. Oh, the nes version is just the fucking lake damn stage paying homage to those
While doing the that could be cool. It would be fun. I could see that. Yes, uh, that it says this game is going to use a lot of
environmental interaction
Tournament fighters you have a fighting game stage
Uh, so I'm looking forward to this. I'm gonna freak out if I if I see it
I really hope it's good
And it looks like it looks better than fucking re-shelled. I like how colorful it is and whatever re-shelled is just like the worst
Yeah, we need we need we need some footage though right now
We're just looking at a how to strike up the profits poster what sucks about a new arcade machine is that you'll never get direct feed footage
No, almost never you have to you have to we're gonna wait for this arcade show to happen
And some guy's gonna put his iphone in front of the the cabinet when I when I when I was in Amsterdam
And I was playing that Batman racing game. Yes, you know, I'm also made by raw thrills
Yeah, I'm like, let me capture as much of this as I can because this is it. Yeah, and this game is incredible
Um, yeah, again raw thrills seems to be like
Where matt would go to close out his his career
Before a retired my twilight years. Yeah, I would I wouldn't even mind
Fucking make cruising games. I'll be there. Do do your uh, your
Do your sunset sabbatical. Yeah. Yeah. We're sunsetting matthew mcmuscle's right now into the raw thrills family. There you go
So, yeah, I like how kotaku's article on this like
Reference my freak out on twitter. Oh, I was wondering why you sent me a kotaku link
Someone sent it to me and I was like, oh, shit. They did that. Uh, what'd they say?
No, all they did is re-quote my tweet just saying like I ever wise if I got a drill
Okay, that's it
We've also got in the news
Um
The first list of backwards compatible xbox 360 games any things that strike your fancy here
Well, let's take a look. We've got black everyone. Everyone's a fan of black. Yeah
We've got blood rain too. Yes always been meaning to high up there get around to that
I wrote I wrote twitter day. Yeah blackthorne too. Everyone's like, well, what about nights of the old republic?
I'm like, don't worry. This is better than nights of the old
Crimson skies legitimately a great super good fun
Dead to rights actually is like
Wow
Why wow fusion fucking frenzy it will be released on every xbox console ever just in case you needed it
You needed xbox is branded. Uh, uh, what should we call it? Uh
Mario party Mario party
Grabbed by the ghoulies grab by the ghoulies is fucked up because you can play that on rare replay on
On the rare replay game on xbox one. I said at xbox 360. I misspoke. I meant to say xbox original what yeah
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so for those that are confused these like the xbox one will get an update that if you just put these
Original discs
It'll just work they'll play and they'll play at higher resolutions with better clarity and they're free
I was saying to willy in a twitter message about this. I'm like, remember we had that debate where when george was on the podcast
And uh, leon was talking we're all talking about like the how the ps4 was doing backwards compatibility
How the xbox one was doing back then and we were like, well, I mean the xbox one all backwards compatibility is free
you don't have to
Pay like five ten dollars for all these ps2 games and we're all going back and forth on it
And the kind of over under was the ps4 games the ps2 ones
Released on ps4. We're getting little updates
I think some of them getting trophies and they were getting increased resolutions and such
And now these are coming out and these are all free and even if you don't own them
You can buy them if you want if you own the original version now
These are free and also getting these resolution updates. I'm like
You know, it's not to say that it's the most important facet of a games console
But like the one thing I think microsoft is doing better than sony right now is backwards compatibility, dude
It's it's a perfect solution. The only problem with this is
That it sucks for people who got rid of their discs. Yeah
Who a lot of I don't know what the fee is to get these again if you don't own the discs though
Yeah, no, there is a fee if you don't own a lot of people definitely got rid of their old green boxes, you know and whatnot
I can't blame them
But all I all I can say is like I'm a fan of the don't sell it. Fuck you
Approach because it's never worth it and you might want to go back for some reason never know
And now that this is unless you've already done a video on the game
Then you could throw it out. Sure. Sure. Sure. So yeah, grab by the ghoulies. Did you got them black?
Uh, yeah, prince prince of sands of time would be soft release the new
Hey prettier than ever
Yeah, that's true. The good one psychonauts, which is a nice
Touch red faction 2 sit my pirates
co-tour
Yay
Are you gonna play this now on this version? Yeah likely because it
Removes a lot of obstacles. Yeah that I had. All right. Um
And the king of fighters neowave because you
Fuck is that about
What are you doing? No, shut up. Why are we doing this?
What's for the for the for the for the eagle the eared ears and shut up and you will eat
What is the what is the actual problem with neowave for everyone because no one knows what this is
The king of fighters neowave is the game that was made on the atomis wave system. Yes as the test bed
for
Nothing when they got
The test bed for them leaving. Um, well s and k not be an s and k anymore. Uh, yeah, well, they were they were leaving
They were no, no, this was it was but yeah, no no play more as the whole thing. This was in the in the it
God
Beyond the dead years right in the doldrums beyond the dead years. There was the point in time when
Uh, kof was uh, I want to say just coming off of
2003
three three. Yes coming off of 2003
and
But way before 11
Exactly and uh, they were switching over to the atomis waves engine. Thomas wave was
Very good for 11 when they figured out how to do things and all that but the sacrifice the war gods
Was king of fighters neowave. Yeah a shitty ass piece of shit bad game
That just got dumped with a bunch of old sprites. If you still own your disc
You can play on xbox one x the all-in-one entertainment system with some of the weirdest fucking systems and oh
Oh, man, we should do a fucking physical for now
Now that you said that and all that weird artwork from um, oh, yeah, I remember that what's his name?
Dude that did the art for um battle coliseum. Yes. Yes. Like I forget his name, but yes him. Yeah
There's oh, and that's when it was being published by ignition
KOF games. Yeah
um
Sammy because atomis wave was sammy's engine. That's how that's what that was
I love the neowave logo is bigger than the king of fighters logo. I don't I don't know
Again, they had to test it. They had to figure it out somehow
God bless god bless them. They got they got to a good place. Yeah, they got to a good place
So you can you can go play that
If you have a physical disc of KOF neowave want to get
Where does KOF start here?
Really? Yeah, like I feel like if you send me a caught a photo
You know
Hold up neowave while doing a thumbs up and have your name written at the bottom
And and and and and staring at this episode of the podcast
On your on your monitor or on your phone
And uh, I don't know then will you I'll you I'll hit you with a retweet and you get a retweet off that
No context. All right
amazing
So, yeah, I'm uh when they like some of those games I'll be interested to pop in like I have a copy of
The dead to rights and blood rape to an injured guy in black and and uh sands of time
I'd like to pop that and just see what it looks like. So I hope they add I I hope they
Because regular uh 360 backwards compatibility is pretty good now. They already like I think they have over something like 200 titles
So I hope that they keep up with uh, like a pace like what was that like
What 15 games 14 14 13 13 if that happens every couple of months, then you know good on you
I am shocked that you didn't throw black to the top of that list. I hate black
Oh
God, I remember sitting black black is cool to shoot around for a few minutes, but it's an actual not fun game
I remember sitting in your parents house
Shooting a wall for an hour waiting to see what would happen. Yeah, I didn't remember the answer was nothing
Anyway, black had it's had a had a fun idea, which is like let's take the cinematic crashes and
and style of burnout let's put it in a
Shooting game, but they're like, oh fuck. We fucked up and we took too long
We have no story just film a bunch of actors in shadow
And just like it's the worst fucking story and like there's just no identity to the game. You're just basically gun
Your main character is gone. Right. Okay. Okay
Uh, I'd rather play red faction too
Red faction two even has the same type of type of technology being able to shoot through a lot of stuff
But the eye but black but they never made the claim
That you could stand there and shoot across the planet
I think they did because you can in red faction. Yeah, but like that's what I mean
But I mean they pretty much went like amazing unparalleled destructible. Whatever. Yeah, but like black's whole thing about like no
You can just shoot a hole through the planet. Yeah, or maybe i'm exaggerating. Maybe that's not what they said
But but they said something really like oh a mollin. You ask yeah about planting a seed and letting it grow type of thing
I remember this having a moniker that'll make your eyes roll out of your skull
I remember on a on a on a press release or a
Game magazine. It said black the everything killer. Oh, wow
Wow
Yo, it killed fucking nothing
Except itself. Maybe black is gonna make you its bitch. Yeah, exactly
Jesus
Anyway, uh, well speaking of good ideas, um
We brought up the fact that
Resi rev is coming to the switch, but it looks like it's not coming alone
There's some fun little eight-bit
Adventures coming along with it. Yeah, the port of resini will revelations won
Which I have no desire to play again
honestly
But uh, yeah, it's got these weird eight-bit games. One of them looks exactly like ghosts and goblins, but you're very burden
Well, I mean right now i'm watching this this little basic ass
Shooter and I mean this is really just dark side chronicles again
If you think about it
Yeah, sort of but all we all we're missing is occasionally a little a little a pylon like a parking pylon that drops
Down the screen like your zombies. You shoot it and you get facts about the umbrella
Company scroll down a bit and and there's this one
Uh ghosts ghouls and homunculi
That's pretty strong. All right
I think you play as berry burn the sprite sure looked like him
After his daughter is kidnapped by an unidentified strike team
Barry follows them to the island not found on any map
Can he make it past the hordes of monsters to save his little girl?
So yeah, you play as berry burden, but you're playing ghosts and goblins congratulations to the fun devs that came up with this that
Probably did so unapproved
Bye bye. It's too late. We already put it in the game unapproved by public buy by cavco
By biz dev
This kind reminds me of remember the dark void game that d make that was a good. Yeah dark boy zero
Yeah, that was like the best thing that came out of dark void. Yeah, so it's similar to that
No, this is like this is not games as a service
What are you doing?
Should we cancel this? Oh, it's it's coming out tomorrow
Should we cancel this? It's not games as a service
I don't know if I ever told you about when I went into the meeting room where
The biggest of wigs at
At at very large wig. They're very large wigs at at at old old strike stomping grounds
Came in to talk about the new philosophy of games of a service and how we need to move and this is years ago
Yeah, every yeah, how we need to move everything in that direction
And like you could hear
Liam in my eyes rolling in our heads
Like you could hear you can hear liam's eyes rolling in your head. You could hear it. You could hear the
It was sand liam's and it was just like this is yep
This is this is what it is. It's all about the gas and that was at a time where it wasn't even really
Feasible yet. No one knew how to nail it
Well, everyone knew that the company's doing it right didn't even know what they were doing right
What they started it and like they're looking at things like big hits like league and any online game
You know and just going like oh my god. Yeah, they invented a thing without knowing they're striking it hot
We need to emulate that and we need to move away from
Single-player stories single player and or even multiplayer stories. Yeah. Yeah, you know
We need to move away from purchasing a video game that you are then finished with
No, and we need to get back here and play. Yeah, you know and and and it just really like
And honestly, I'm finally games as a service for like two or three big games a year
But I don't like everyone like if everyone tries to be the same thing
Then no one is anything the problem with the phrase games as a service is that it encapsulates
The fact that this is now the goal that your company is working towards
It's no longer
Like a thought that comes from having a good idea for a multiplayer game. Yes, it's no longer a thought that is like
Natural because you're like, yeah
Well, this is about
A bunch of players getting dropped on an island shooting each other and surviving and you play for a while
You play online and thus naturally you're going to be coming back to this and you only play online
We're going to add new things every so often and therefore things. Yeah, so it kind of serves like it acts as a service
Like it's not like incidental
It's just that it's now like like overwatches the games as a service basically now as well
But but but the difference between you know, like just like releasing it because it's what it's okay
Like what the best design for the game is versus putting this up above your fucking company's headline
Yeah, you know in in time you you know, like don't don't forget
You're here forever
Right, just imagine in the offices every cubicle has games as a service
Paste it up above it because nothing is going to get through creatively. That is not
Uh
Using that as a as a as a design philosophy
Yeah, and anything that would get through and gets mutated
Yeah to include that as much as possible
And we saw that in a bunch of the projects came that came out of at that time
Even games that are still a single player experiences and the one right now is fucking shadow of war more door more for
Like let's make it games as a service, but it's still a single player thing
So let's put all this bullshit in it that doesn't need loot boxes whatever
Uh, and it doesn't really like plague said last podcast. It's like I beat the game without any of that shit
So it was just bolted on for nothing bolted on because we think we need it, but we actually really don't
I mean, I always go back to this even happens like years ago
Like why why doesn't sassus creed come out every year or it used to because call of duty came out every year
Look how much money you can make and oh, yeah
But I always go back to you know, what's better than killing yourself and stretching your franchise thin and getting really really a lot of fatigue
either like via the
entire
Gaming gaming populations perception of it. Yeah
Is when you fucking drop one mic
Every six years or so and you fucking blow it up
Oh, are you saying when you'd be the daniel day lewis of the video game industry when you be the grand theft auto daniel day lewis
Yes, exactly because fucking gta 5 comes out
Like is the biggest selling thing ever then over the course of like two three years
Slowly xbox one ps forward and slowly huge multiplayer suite and you and you fucking actually dominate you
You are the absolute winners
Because by the time another gta comes out, you're gonna sell maybe more as last time like where's like all gta's and and uh, sorry all
Assassin's creeds and call of duties and whatever they sell less every time
This just in daniel day lewis spotted this just in daniel day lewis is gone
You say that on the day that the trailer for his movie drops. Here's eight awards. He just won. Yeah
I'm gonna retire. I'm gonna retire again. See you in a decade. Yes. See you all in a decade. Look, um, I'm gonna think about what I can say here, but
uh
what
Yeah, okay
I watched
A project that like you all are familiar. You you all saw
Yeah, at this point it would pretty much anyway. Blah. Sorry. I'm just going through. Yeah, no
I can see the wheel
But you are like you I watched a large
Scale project large major triple a single player adventure
Uh, that happened to just be that
Eventually expand and include a multiplayer for fun
And then have the single player entirely scrapped and the multiplayer become the only thing
Yes, and then that budget and then that thing becomes
An actual focus and they go this is the part of this
Project that we're going to focus on and push because this is the part that we can make a surface
Yeah, and so we're just going to hold on to this multiplayer shell
That means nothing without the giant single player campaign that was supposed to come with it
and
surprise surprise no one gave a fuck and then
Time to close that down like seconds after it came out and you know, it was just the the
Living application of this but it doesn't matter because it's worth trying again and again and again because when you strike it once
You strike it for years. Yeah, and the money's too good
But like it's it's it's more we need to make money now and constantly
Like I guess, you know me saying like
Grand Theft Auto must have cost way more than any other game of recent memory
You know maybe metal gear fan and pain or whatever
So I can assume that a lot of publishers can't afford to just you know
Twiddle their thumbs and wait for a product to be developed over the course of five years
I I realize that people can't do that
But like with certain franchises you certainly can't like ubisoft could certainly do that with the sassus creed now
They have enough other products coming out
They give milk tom clancy's bloated corpse for as long as they want really
And just wait until certain things are ready to be like have that have an actual air of
Anticipation around them and it worked for me for a sassus creed origins
But you and other people are still like I'm still good like it needs even more like for
Some people still needs even more time in the background until it can come out to a
After a certain point where it can actually excite you again. That lots Cheryl's pretty hot. Sorry that lots trailer is okay
I've got because you know a few months ago. You're like, yeah, it looks okay. I'm sure it was pretty hot
But yeah, well, it's just you know take whatever opinions you have of like
Someone who's high up in
Whatever video game company that's like we want to make and continue to make these games
And then take uh all the producers that are like just their job is to look at
After driving all their ferraris through strip clubs. They decide. Oh shit
We need to make more
And then echo them their voices with all the investors
Who are the same people whose transcripts you can see in the nintendo investors meeting which is painful. They're
Basically children. Yes with lots of money. Yeah, and
Take those voices and then like embody those
Into a producer who has to come in and then basically or a publisher. I should say yeah who comes in and decides how things are gonna go
Um
It's not going away. It is what it is
And that's just the state of the industry and it makes more sense for them to
Continue trying to take a thing you might know the name of
Make it a service type game that can last for the next five years or so
If continued income then to make a take a risk on a thing
Making a giant single-player adventure and then have it bomb because the people making the game didn't know how to make it
Good enough, but then you'll you know, it's almost a self. Sorry. It's almost a self-correcting
um
Position based on the fact that company sees that they've released
Bombs, right? Yeah, not everything catches. No some things get niche, but for the most part. They're trying to get that huge huge
Initial boom
And they're seeing lots of bombs it becomes it's almost a self-correcting behavior to be like well
We might as well
Bomb in a way that like if we do hit
It can make up for it by can by like really raking it in continuously every month
Then being a single one-off that then disappears
Well, it's it's like one of those weird anomalies that happen on the ds. Maybe sometimes the weed depending, but it was like
Let's release a bunch of call of duties on every platform
And it's like let's release a call of duty on the ds who cares just fucking release it
That version goes on to sell a million copies
Like the version that you spent zero money on what's the most successful skew of street fighter 4 of all time?
3ds
Because it's sold consistently
Over the course of like two three years. Yep
And like that that is the actual that's where you won actually
You spent the least amount of money on that version, but you somehow made the most people that have a 3ds going well
Yeah, I guess I want to see I want to see these little dioramas move around. Yeah
Yeah
I was gonna say you know, it's like the weird
Anti-behavior of this where there's a little bit of pushback and I hope companies that do kind of just go
Oh, fuck this just games as a service just make whatever I have what I have a good one
But yeah is is star wars battlefront. Okay that game comes out and it's fine
There's nothing to do really there is a minuscule amount of content, but it looks great and plays okay
There was some bits of dlc that were added
But it sold so well because it came out right when force awakens came out and just generally star wars games sell pretty good depending
Um, then there's all this pushback going. You know, what would be cool for a star wars game star wars?
Like a story or like characters something to rally around
I know other battlefront games in the past the old ones didn't have much of a story if they did
I didn't play them all but now we're getting this like massive like five to seven hour
Single player story mode at top of all these new multiplayer modes heroes across everything like that is the I did not buy battlefront
And when I played it a bit from a shim episode. I was not impressed by battlefront, but this one
I'm like, do I want to play as darth mull?
fight fighting
uh
Fighting ray
Or fin. Yeah, I do
Do I want to play as this like like new um
New story within like the the the the new universe of force awakens in the last jedi. Of course I do
Why wouldn't I so that's where I'm going in and like I'm I'm going to assume that's going to sell way better than the first one
A because it's the sequel and b it's actually has more of the things
We want if it was just called like space guys
Yeah, it could have been a multiplayer thing
But the fact that you're coming off a huge cinematic universe with a lot of storytelling
I mean, I'm still like always a mistake to not have a story remote. Yeah, I still feel that like I don't know
Maybe a part whatever. I feel like a bit a little bit duped in that I was they when they said like
Oh, no, this is going to be black battlefront was going to be the platform for star wars
And oh, yeah, one game duped and then this is it and then when the next game a movie comes out
The dlc
But it's all going to be here on this
And the idea that they're going to just hold on to that and work with it for a while like a rock band
Thing yeah, was uh, I thought that I was just naive for thinking they might not be lying about
Yeah, I I'd like to think that they'll they'll do that. I hear you but like
I like I was on the first game hoping that that was going to be the case type of thing. Yeah, so
What are you going to do? Um, you don't get to play as darlin
Well, I mean I played as bubble fat. I played as vader. I played as
Yeah, the vr x-wing pilot. I had a good time. Okay
Did you did you spend any time with the first game? Yeah, okay, because
It was pretty fun. Yeah. No, nothing wrong with the way it played, but I was like
That's it. Yeah
No, it is nice though. You're all right. That is a good thing
I with the other good thing fighting back and I can't find the fucking picture
It was really cool. It was just a collection of images
Of like the highest rated
Games releases on open critic
Of the year and there are all these single player indie games
You know
God
You know what? I can't think of anything the more opposite of a games of the service then fucking cuphead. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
No, for sure for sure. Um
And it was just like it was just a giant list of like and and then people made like image markers of stuff of like
Thank you for still releasing not you
Single player games, you know and whatnot like yeah, it's nice to know that you know
They're still giant awesome games that are doing really well
That are fantastic that are going to be coming out because indie developers are putting out whatever the fuck they want. Yeah, you know
So, uh, yeah, that's that's uh
That's the one silver lining I suppose but as far as like
larger
major
Things go
it's a world of
Gas it's a world of loot boxes. It's a world of
You know you saw many buys you saw. I'm not sure we talked about initially when it happened
But you saw that metric that uh blizzard put out in may of this year
I think they updated it since but it couldn't really find a follow-up article to it
You see how much money they made just on loot boxes for overwatch blizzard. Yeah, no
You want to take a stab throughout a number?
Like like just what I need to know is not the number
But I need to know how much more than sales of the game itself infinitely more. Yeah, okay
Like still want to throw out a number god. Don't say like a billion a billion billion dollars in loot boxes
Jesus fucking christ. I think they updated it since oh, wow. That's a lot. Okay
You know, yeah, when a company says we made a billion dollars on these shitty sprays. Yeah
You know, no, it was it was I was and I was I was uh,
Misremembering it wasn't just indie games. It was like it was just like
Yes, like like props and proper titles too as well
But it was like thank you
Neo and near and persona and zelda
Exactly like all the bagers huge single-player games that came out, you know fucking
Horizon zero dollar and those really came out this year like all that cool shit that came out around
You know, january to like
April that that I think it was march when we are or april when we were just panicking
Looking at looking at too many games to buy and whatnot around around zelda's time exactly
um, yeah, when a company says we made a billion dollars off these
Random gifts. Yeah, like every other company who are fuck you who are you to say no? I'm not gonna do that
Yeah, yeah. Yeah. No, no, it's just it's charlie day
Look at like like it like you're standing around pointing at the board and everyone's like, but we don't want to he's like
A billion dollars
It's just a billion dollars
What are you gonna do not do that?
But you are at the same time you're fucking blizzard
Yeah, and you have a bunch of waifus and husbandos like that doesn't work
But when you're not blizzard or but when you're not blizzard, right and then someone stands up and goes
We we don't want to do that. We have some really good ideas. Thank you kindly pack up your things
Yeah, your box in the or or she didn't like
Or he just gets up on the table and cuts off his head like boston aca
And says as your leader, I know that you might have like find reasons to question my logic
Please talk to me in an open way and I allow me to convince you
That loot boxes are the way we're gonna go the price
And if you bring up a single player or stories
I collect your fucking head
Just like this
And it's amy hennings head
Oh man, it's visceral. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and everyone else is like
Oh
Fuck yeah, so if you do you have that there just in general you want to talk about like blizzard just
Fuck uh, sorry ea just
Shutting down visceral games and taking their big you can take you take that one
I was just gonna say like that was always a game in the back of my mind
I'm like battlefront is fine everyone that wants multiplayer stuff. There you go
Dead have fun with that. We have a big huge single player stuff after star wars 1338 or whatever the fuck that was
Remember that one. They got canceled. Yeah 1313 1313. Hey, well, we always have this
To go back on and yeah, they didn't outright cancel it. They're moving it to
God, it was such weird nomenclature that they use in the press release or like this company ea vancouver was already working on it
So we're gonna take what visceral
We need to what was it swing the pendulum to another focus?
And everyone assumes although jason schreyer
Said like uh, yeah, they didn't they didn't cancel it or move it away from visceral because it was a single player only experience
They moved it away because it was being a disaster apparently internally. It was a disaster. I don't know
But still man visceral like I always kind of felt
Like they're gonna be shut down because they haven't released a product and how and I don't know how long since dead space three
Dante's and
Furno, I don't even know the last game that they actually fully made. I think they worked on some call the duties. I don't know
Uh, sorry metal of honors or battlefields. I don't fucking care. Hey da like
The ea has shut down a lot of great companies that they purchased none of them
A lot of them meant certain things to certain people for the games that they used to make but like none
None of the the companies. Well, they did shut down criteria on makers of burnout. That's true. Well, here's the thing right because I I
generally uh
Haven't let me let me go back and think but I don't think I've really played visceral games at all really because I didn't
Well, it's it's the dead space games and Dante's inferno
Exactly and beyond that you're they were just used to be ea redwood, right?
Yes
So here's the thing is I that's what that's what's the only thing that's a bit weird
I'm different about this story is that like, you know, I there's been a lot of sentiment of like if you get bought by ea
It's where you go to die, right? Don't let no one's gotten out
Right. No one got unbought don't buy it
Don't get bought by ea because your company will just get shut the fuck down when they're done with you
Yeah, they'll use you for this for whatever you're good for drain you out and then toss your husk like right now
The only the only outside company I know is like dice dice has been fine for like
Decades or something but
As far as I know or knew
Based on talking to people that work there and then from obvious public history. I mean ea
Rather visceral didn't get bought by ea. It was ea. No, no, it's true
It was just one of their internal studios
Branding themselves that called themselves visceral games and so it ended up being branded separately
And feeling like it wasn't a studio that was from ea like they are like ea always 100 owned it
Yeah, they used to be called ea redwood exactly
So this is what's a bit different here is it wasn't like they got bought and shut down. It wasn't a
a fucking mollinue. Uh, what was it? Uh
Linehead, uh, yeah type situation. This was just thanks for many of that
I forgot that they're ea redwood. This was just a company that was already ea internally, you know
It's like capcom shutting down studio five ea redwood made some of the latter james bond games that ea had published
It was just I remember the logo and he did the bonathon for much with love everything or nothing
Yeah, and those were like good bond games and then like I think after that a bunch of sims shit
Everything or nothing. Uh, sorry for martial with love was like 2005 2006. Maybe send right after that
Maybe two years later like dead space came out and then the battlefield stuff. Yeah
Um, but no that that's so so it does it does but like that's one thing that it was just that um
It's not the same as like
Oh nice, we've got we you know, we we got bought so we don't have to worry about shit and then we got fucking tossed
It was it's not another one of those classic stories as much as it is ea just
Like dissolving their own because it's it's the risk award of oh, we're we're covered by this huge corporation
So we're good. We don't have to fight for everything that we get. Yeah, you do have to fight for survival
in a completely different way
But generally speaking, you know, like the the difference between the companies they get bought is that like
Those ones are usually founded by people trying to get away from the bullshit
Yeah, and then you know like it comes up and catches them anyway because you did too good
And then someone writes you a check that's like
You know, there's once too many zeros for you to say no to
You know based on the lights currently blinking in the office
If you get bought by nintendo though for some reason even if you don't put out games for years and years
retro
You're just okay for some reason. I don't know
I bet you I bet you it's because they're just doing like internal testing shit. You know what I mean
They're doing they're doing some weird
Non-game related. I can't think of like software for for fucking medical devices or something. You know, I don't know
There has to be an example nintendo buying a company and then just a
Shuddering I can't think I know that if you leave nintendo like silicon knights did it doesn't really work out in the end
Unfortunately for them unless you're clover and you become seeds and then you become platinum
What do you mean was that to do with anything like leaving nintendo?
But like yeah, but like leaving capcom was totally fine for example
Like are you saying are you saying nintendo specifically or just big companies nintendo specifically?
Yeah, okay, but but I mean to be fair
They got their company shut down then they had to start over again with their own capital a naba. Yes, true
So it is a little bit different. It's not like they just rebranded the name on their front door. Yeah
And you know same thing for fucking
Ludens
Did seeds put out a game? No, never nothing
They just instantly rebranded to platinum like two months later. They
Seeds, no, it was it was it was a little longer. It was longer than that
I remember because I was like, oh the flower the clover flower is now seeds. Oh cool
But they never put out a game and they just rebranded they put out a logo logo, right?
They put out a logo and I forgot about it. See everyone forgot about seeds
I didn't because I was like it's like a clover flower
And I was I was a little bit bummed. Okay. I'm not gonna lie
I was very bummed when the name platinum games first came out
I think I remember this conversation
I was like where you're like that has nothing to do with that's so un-Japanese like we're fucking platinum
Exactly, you know because platinum is the it's a very like yeah over the top
Exactly. It's American. It's a very American. It's very hip-hop. It's not a thing that you really just shout out meekly
You know what I mean?
Yeah, so I remember and I was like that's very different from the aesthetic of the fucking the clover league, you know
So I was like
It doesn't matter, but it does. Yeah, but anyway, um
Whatever it eventually, you know, it sold me what the jingle
Platinum never loses its luster
Motherfuckers because that's a bit of Japanese
Motherfuckers you got me you got me in I fucking bought it
um
Yes, sad. I hope that star wars games comes back and if I swear if it has loot boxes though, then it was all for nothing
What did we fight for?
Uh, um, anyway, um
So
This one is just for me right now. Okay, but um, they also I'll support you
They announced. Well, actually you should be happy with this because it's switch news the biggest fucking deal ever
Oh, uh shin megami tense a five
proper announced for this this
Is the reason why?
um
What this is the best thing to come from the switch like type of uh idea of philosophy
Okay, what was that the whole bringing together handheld and
And uh, whatever console shit whatever because
I like smt4 came out on fucking, uh, uh 3ds
But I don't feel like smt4 like but like they would not have put that on the we you, you know
Probably not so so if they're smart
So finally we can get like them doing the same type of thing where they're like, yeah
Let's make another one in the same way we did for but now it's a proper system
So it can look amazing and sound amazing and have a real fucking uh, uh, uh budget
And like look a lot better than you know the four did which four was still a phenomenal game
But at the end of the day it was a 3ds game and there was like there was a really brief trailer for this
That showed a little bit of footage. It did looks fucking great
Yeah, I saw it going through the the the uh, uh metro tunnels and seeing uh dead
Um, uh dead onies and and personas on the ground of personas that demons on the ground
Yeah, oh that that's gonna get some that's good
Bang bang pu pu pu pu pu fire back
Anyway, dead dead, uh demons on the ground. It's it's, uh, absorb the bullets looks incredible. Um
Nothing else to say beyond holy fuck. I can't wait
You know four was incredible me not knowing much about like I know more about persona than shimmygani intense
I but like I was like, wow, this is a numbered sequel though
So I'm sure that is like a bigger deal because for a long time this project was called uh smthd
Yeah, that's all it was known at isn't I I assume like much like a many people probably is this is just like a port
of an older game, maybe it's just uh
SMT-4 for the switch which guess what you would have been fine way. It would have been really cool
I wouldn't had any problems there
but
So, you know like when someone asks for something stupid from nintendo like a
Like a cool thing that would never ever happen
Like oh, they should release like a fucking halo game or there should be like a brand new exclusive granted like stuff that would never happen
You know
I never ask for that stuff from nintendo because I've I've been beat enough to know that it's not gonna happen
Yes, but there's certain things. I'm like why not this could like make money
People miss this and they've already done a mario kart eight deluxe. Yep
Why isn't uh fucking fire emblem cross?
Uh smt
Why isn't fates?
Why does that not have a switch hashtag ff? Yeah, why did they not get a switch port?
Six months ago
Like so many people have talked to like awesome. Whatever is like this is actually one of the best rpgs
I've played like this is as good as any persona game, but so many people were like, I don't know what this is
I'm confused. I'm not gonna play. It was it was released on the cusp
It was literally the last game. I think it came out
You can't you can't do that without talking about a port and it seems like they must have discussed it and said
No
Sure, but that's where I get frustrated over nintendo. I'm like you have to explain why
Everyone missed out on this thing even I had I have the game. I have
Hashtag fates in my wii u that I haven't turned on in like a year. Yeah
I just never started it up because I'm just like no, this is dead system. I don't feel like
It's because tokyo mirage sessions bombed tokyo mirage sessions. It's because it's because it didn't sell
And they're like, are we gonna port it for it to potentially not sell again? You know, you should port it for a thing that people own
I agree
That's what you should. I agree. That's why I'm always angry. Yeah
seeing that
That that that tweet with that dusty we you controller. Have you seen that? Yeah, I said caked
It's like, yeah, that's that's kind of the problem is someone had to find out
Where the power button was through that dust to turn the shit on again, you know, but there's like a couple of wii games
I'm just like, yeah
Fucking put fatal frame 5 on the switch. You could have just re-released that for october
People would have been able to play it seems fucking would have worked amazingly on the switch
It feels like it's not
Easy or free. I miss you know what I mean? It feels like it's it takes a bit of work the day because you wouldn't that's expensive
You would have seen a lot more, you know jumping over from one to the other what what has been it's just mario kart 8
And before that not anything not first party before that wind waker hd on the we you and uh twilight princess
Yeah, that's it like like not for if find find the third party stuff is that's the real question
Yeah, but third parties and many of them are still like, oh, I don't want to fucking develop for that
Super hot system that's making money hands over fist. Oh, I hate that then fine. Don't support it like nintendo
You you have other companies that are literally not doing anything as far as we know right now monster games that literally poured it
Donkey Kong tropical freeze is another one that I mentioned last week. They ported it to the 3ds fucking poured it to the switch
Tropical freeze. There's a million games. You could have done it with it's just like if you have these holes in your schedule
Right now it doesn't because there's like
Fire Emblem came out last week mario comes out this week
Doom comes out the week
Next then there's skyrim then there's you know tons of fucking shit
But like next year has somebody where the fuck's platinum's game?
Look, they're gonna look all they have to do is drop trial and like like crease open the ass cheeks
and breeze out the a cough of
Smash and everybody just comes running
so
Just like you know the whiff
The whiff of an announcement about a smash game hitting the switch is gonna fucking like get everything
Lined up for them. So it doesn't even matter
um
What does matter
To you spawn movie is freddy kruger
um
It it doesn't really matter to me too much because I played um dead by daylight again like a week ago and i'm like man
I don't like this
It's it for some reason to me going back to it
It's much more janky and this it's just set up in a different way
Where I really don't like it compared to friday the 13th anymore what it does have
Is amazing fucking killer design multiple of them and they all have their different stats and they're all super cool
That's super strong about this game and the other thing about it is that they have michael myers as a piece of dlc
They have leather face as a piece of dlc and now they're getting fucking freddy kruger
What situation has there been where there's one hold out horror icon hold out icon out of any genre?
That just they they're like fuck. That's the last one and we can't get them mortal combat
I guess
I guess so like
Why couldn't they have gotten to fucking
Ripley in mortal combat x you could have fought an alien and a predator, you know
Yeah, or something
it's it's uh
To get both licenses in on the same time same place you pretty much I imagine like
That have to be the point of the game
But yeah freddy kruger's coming to dead by daylight
They have a bit of a trailer and i'm like that's cool
The killer aspect of the game is great when you play as a survivor's I I I don't like it that great
But I mean that's neither here or there it's popular games
So that's fine if people like it, you know good to them
But like it's still awesome that this game just is the one to
The the the go-to shop for horror icons in your video games. Yes. I have a question. I can answer your question
Maybe what is it? What is what dead by daylight? Okay, dude
Um
Just it's just that the game's been around a long time now
I know but it's a it's a thing that it's it's or anything close to my wheelhouse. Well, it's made by ass to mouth
That's cool. Okay, uh behavior interactive and it's a four-on-one
Survivors versus killers. Okay. It's one versus four. Okay, so it's directly comparable to friday the 13 13
Yeah, friday the 13 came out later
And we did a should storm episode of dead by daylight like last year. Okay, and I was like this seems all right
I kind of I kind of like it or whatever
Um, and then the game was kind of bare bones. There was like three killers. I think and just whatever
And when I initially booted that up, it just wouldn't even load
I couldn't even get into a match the longest time like most of these games usually do much like friday the 13th
Had problems, but friday the 13th is just a more methodical long
Matches that a lot of things can happen in very very large maps. Whereas like if I could
If you could visualize this, this is more of an arcadey small maps
Like much
Much lower player count. It's only four people versus one. Yeah, whereas friday the 13 seven versus one
Um, but it's killer designs if you just put put by dead by daylight killers
Into google and you'll just see the the the the character designs for them. They're very strong
I think it's like, you know, the strongest part of the game or whatever
Um, but yeah, it's cool that freddy kruger is coming in
But the thing with freddy kruger is that like are you having a map tailored to him because then he's just some asshole
Asshole and a christmas sweater running around all these characters. Uh, do they have maps tailored to them?
No, I mean some of them do like the doctor. There's a like weird laboratory stage for him
Uh, but those are the killers like I think the hag is strong trapper
Hillbilly the huntress
Yeah, why isn't that just
Is that not just michael liars? It is. I don't know actually I don't know why he's called why is michael liars called the shape
I also with his dlc. You got, um, you got, uh
Laurie strode, you got, um, god. What's her name the actress?
In true lies
Yeah, yeah, yeah
For her. She's cool
You get her character in the game as well. So, you know, they do a good job with the characters in this but I'm like, uh,
You know, it's just just not my thing. It doesn't play the way I kind of prefer
But it's still cool that it has this dlc. Remember michael liars and call of duty
No
It was the precursor to predator and call of duty and uh, uh in the same game
I think it was in the same game. Yeah, they had dlc packs for the multiplayer
And it was he worked exactly like the predator did you have to like unblock him earn him in a match and then you promptly cut off the video
Just as you get to him
But that remember, uh, Danny trejo was machete and I call the duty game
I think buffy too. Well, though, they had they had like the whole remaro, uh, um, the remaro pack. Yeah
Yeah, exactly. So yeah, I'll call Danny. We'll do that. Okay. Yeah. Well, anyway, um, that's that's cool, I guess
uh, so
We've also got, um
The announcement that
Uh, what was I gonna say? I don't know
No, I before I was I was trying to finish off the thought on shin megami tense. Yeah. Uh
Yeah, they didn't give a date on it
Was what I was gonna say. They didn't give a date, but uh, fuck. Yeah to that fuck. Yeah to
um, whatever
Other like like like apocalypse version is gonna come out after this comes out. Oh, right and
Fuck yeah to the idea
That nintendo, I guess is just now the shin megami tense a
Company. Yeah, kind of like how they became the fatal sony is the persona company. Yeah
I guess that means
Double kids
Microsoft can be the no japanese games company
They can get uh, they can get jack bros
uh, anyway
So, um, there was the announcement that microsoft announces we have canceled new japanese games
Uh, internally you didn't know about them, but we've canceled them. So earlier last week
One we got the confirmation that oh, yeah, there was a shit load of dbz news and nappa
Coming straight to the fighters. So you saw that breakdown on how a ginyu player would win evo
Right, uh, I didn't see it, but I heard you talk about it. It was it was
You you're you're ginyu and your second player and you pause the game in the middle of attorney match
Your opponent player one
Complaints to a to they come over you body swap
As ginyu the first player they see that that player is the one that paused
They they get they they boot him out of evo. You win. There you go. That's it. There you go
Body swapping is just that that's why we put ginyu in here. What's a dragon ball care that can do something unique and stupid
That's why ginyu's over you. Yeah, even though the story of this game is clearly also
More importantly looking looking at the screen
That's why ginyu's here because you can get you can get an entire cast of characters
Well, no, it's because the pose the ginyu force sentai pose is one of the most attorney hype with people
It's the one of the most iconic things in the entirety of dragon ball of the street. No one remembers zarbhan and uh
Dodara
Am I even getting that second name right raccoon?
Like like no i'm not i'm not even talking about the members of the ginyu force. I'm talking about
Oh, you mean just the regular freezer the fat spiky
Girl and then the other one. Yeah, it's our one. Yeah
No, no one no one fucking you know, but everyone remembers ginyu force because the ginyu force was fucking sick. Yeah
They had a gimmick nappa nappa as well
Napa's also announced to be yes a new character. He is and nappa's
Cool because he's not like
Seems like he might be another grappler. Yeah. Well, he's that he's a different type from every other like saiyan type
Yeah, cool guy. Yeah, um
I know I know raddits would never happen. So don't say that
It raddits probably gonna watch golden ozaru bar doc. Yeah be announced
um
But anyway, uh
Legendary I can only now I now i'm just thinking of brawley better be in this just because
I think brawley's hilarious
Now i'm just thinking of because naruto is a character called to get daedara in it
So it's very so i'm like what the fuck was the original characters
Dodoria
Dodoria. Yeah, okay sure. Anyway, uh
Who cares captain ginyu?
And nappa and that's cool
Napa's also gonna have that big crazy mouth laser thing that yeah, yeah, it looks super dumb, but
Fuck it
And and ginyu's screenshot has all the strikers coming out. So
um, that's fun
Yay to that also they updated the website and it looks like there's room for
Like a launch. Oh, yeah, so potentially a launch of 24. That's a that's a good ass healthy healthy starting roster
Uh and with that came the announcement of the season pass with eight more characters because games as a service
Now to be fair, we've also said we've all said like, you know
Fighting games should in this climate be kind of considered a service
Where the game sticks around for a long long time
Longer than they used to stick around and you just add more like 100 but here's here
It always comes down to the very same
problem, which is the conflict and the
That comes with perception. How how you release your news. Okay
We've addressed the problem with screwfighter cross-tech in back in the day. What was it? Well
Here
Certainly, but but here some fucking
Miners
Found model data for these characters that you're going to be selling here. They are in the game incomplete
We could have just unlocked them. You shipped the disc with the dlc on it. Yes, and then sold codes, right?
fine, that was
Bullshit
The answer was the reason you held it back was for the vita port no one played
right the uh
Uh, the one of the answers was then. Oh, okay. Let's just do the same thing
Yeah, programming wise and development wise except separate the files so that you actually have to download those files
So people don't feel as bad about when they're buying the keys that could have could have just
Because the character is like not complete or whatever. It's already done, right?
Every single
fighter right now is
fucking up
This stupid dlc selling people characters thing plan
Because they're announcing this shit before the fucking game is out. That's true
What are you doing?
We know we like the game and we're gonna buy it
Stop telling us the extra shit that your need is to spend money on
But if you don't do that then people won't might not buy the season pass or the special
Version that allows you to get that season of characters coming later or whatever the fuck
But the whole point is that
Like simply because the thing is not in your hands yet
And you're already talking about a premium service that you're gonna be selling for for the thing
People can't help but feel nickled and dimed
Because the original thing is not even here
If you went back to something that I already had and was enjoying and then said we're making more stuff for it
right
Very few people are gonna find issue
With being like I like this thing. I'll totally go get more cool new things for it because yay
I like to see my thing supported
But when it's I and but and of course this stuff is always planned ahead of time with these with game development
But the perception is fucked when it's all
Way way ahead of time. Maybe if you're on the road to redemption
Maybe you're trying to have like a new sequel to bury the old piece of shit
Or like there's some problem with it and you want to get back in the good grace and say we're more content more whatever
I can kind of see like them just wanting to get people excited by saying we're gonna have all this stuff
But when you have so much good will like Dragon Ball like you said like people I am already excited
For this base product. I don't really care
Like I agree and when you're in this situation, it's like
You don't need to
You have enough hype. You literally have an all the hype right now
But then you don't need to yeah, but but mr. King dice has to roll it and for a few dollars more
And it's like guys
Little season pass shows up in his car and he's like yo coming to the season pass car
I just like they were already there right and again, it's just perception because like I said with cross-tech in
people
No, like no one likes the idea that the dlc exists ready and finished before launch. Yeah, but
What you don't know has less of a chance of hurting you
When you're sold the game where the dlc is not on the disc you go
Right, I can't prove that wasn't ready beforehand
I'll shake my fist, but here you go. Also if you don't want people finding out about that the model data is anywhere
Don't release your game on pc. Well, there's that release it later. Yeah, there's that right there
Don't release betas for don't let anyone get access for sure hide those files until the last second hide those second files
But the it's just the the obvious problem when people are like
I'm already saving up to buy your game and now you've announced the extra stuff to spend money on
And all of this in my head
We announced today. It's like the dragon ball ultimate edition. Ultimate edition includes the pass the season pass
And the fucking thing that I that I called that I wanted so bad is the music from the anime
Is also in the ultimate edition. So you got to get the ultimate edition. It's that's the only way to get that music
What's commentator voice pack? Oh
The the budokai
Commentator guy what game what fighting game had a commentator voice pack. It was like an indian. Yeah, that was yada garasu
Yeah, it had that was neat. Yeah, it had ultra david and james chen and oh wait
And Maximilian had the faces. Yeah, but then it was fun. Yeah, anyway
Oh, I forgot about that. It was it was fun to hear fgc people
But no, so that that's all it is man. It's just it's in the in the in the person in the consumer's head
This is all just the nebulous future
And to you at biz dev it feels like that's exactly what it is at biz dev corp
Yes at biz dev that you feel like
Uh, we can announce this and this is a pro planet for a package and then we have a separate package
Which is of different value. So these two things together it makes sense why these things has a value and this thing has a value
This is for hype and this is for mega hype this and and it's all it makes sense
We're releasing these two things and a side product
But to the person who's way way way before all of this that's just like I can only play this all in the future
You're just like it's just you've just announced a price increase on the thing
I just realized furthermore
If you do a digital pre-order for dragon ball z fighters, you get more extra bullshit that
Is early access to another open beta early unlocks
So this leads me to my next thing when I saw the select screen. Maybe I I haven't seen it
But i'm actually kind of like
A I thought they said this correct me if i'm wrong
And b it's like why does super saiyan god super saiyan goku and vg to get two fucking slots?
That's horseshit. Well
Cuz
I thought they had said in a press release that we're not gonna have
No, no multiple versions. No, they didn't but that's why
Goku is super saiyan goes super saiyan 3. Yeah, and it's super. That's all I need to do. Yeah, but no
That's that's not gonna happen because you know dude like fucking
Title card character push like you got it sure, but it's still like
Oni and evil ryu
They play more they play different more differently than those two do they play pretty different really. Yeah, they do
I thought they had the same specials. They have they have different specials
I mean some of this like like like big bang attack is not even a super it's it's it's a normal
All right fair enough, but still no no mechanically mechanically. They're different characters, but
yes
But we like variety more
Than we like variety more than a random fan likes cool super saiyan blue. Yeah
So and end of end of you know thought there
Thought is now ended. Uh
But but anyway, though the point is that um, yeah, it's it's it's this is just it's not going away
It's a new thing it's gonna happen and we're seeing this being put onto
The hypest looking fighting game of next year like this looks like it's gonna be the best fucking fighter
What's what's the one fighting what's the one fighting game that doesn't actually do this
big fighting game, uh
Well, that wasn't even thinking about killer instinct, but yeah, it actually didn't do this
I mean it sold you characters individually
It did but it was more like we're gonna have seasons of this whatever whatever it's sold characters individually
But like it one content was made after the shit came out
Well, what I was thinking what I was thinking was smash smash didn't had no season pass nothing
And they would have directs
Months after the game come out about dlc
There was just two versions of the game and then they're they're they're just a handheld and a regular regular
But that's like sometimes nintendo being so slow
Actually benefits them in certain instances like that
They're not gonna fucking announce
Well, I mean for zelda didn't they announce the dlc packs result. They just said additional content would be coming
No, there was a piece of extra content for smash 4 on the 3 on the e-shop though
I'm trying to remember what it was
um
I remember going on to download like bayo and stuff and then seeing
other shit
Whether I don't remember what it was but there was the other there was other there was
dlc for smash 4 no, no, there was for sure
But yeah, they wouldn't frame it in a season pass
Style way no, no, no, no and it all came out after the game. Yeah way after the launch
So, you know, that's what it is man. It's just it's just about perception
You know like it's all about reality you can and making some noise
You can't tell people how to develop their game
But you can tell people when to announce it and doing this all ahead of time is just such a huge mistake because you do nothing
But garner ill will and this is a game with nothing
But good will exactly but even even today with this announcement
I saw like these two people in my timeline that never shut up about dragon ball fighters and they're just like
I don't like this. There's not much reason that you would yeah, the honest truth is it's it's you know
It's honestly, I don't care because I'm used to it at best. Yes, but it's like
Like based on the way this this news comes out at best
The person who's like gonna buy it goes all right
Company just announces price increase
Or at worst company announces
Shit in the game. I'm never gonna get to see yeah
There's only two there's no in between there none
None and and and you know all you can really be left thinking is
Like the game's not out and that stuff is going to be made. So why not put it there?
Yeah, you know and like even though like it's like they'll they'll give you a very long like matt algurn
We'll tell you something as logical as well. The the the budget for creating that extra stuff
Yeah, was a complete separate project internally. Yes, and everyone's like who gives a fuck
At biz dev corp we we allocated. Oh, thank you for showing me the folder for the project when it was created
And showing me the date the time stamp on it. So the dlc folder sort by last day modified
Okay, okay dlc too was uh that project folder was only created months later
So that's a separate budget and that's like that's that's still that's still annoying. That'll still annoy you enough
Knowing like that's that's true. And that's how games are developed and you could you could say that cows come up
I also know that
But like it will still annoy us like I don't give a shit when it was green lit and how much money allocated for it
You told us before the product was out. You told us months before the product was out
So it doesn't matter really and it's like
um
man this uh this uh dlc for
Uh deus x sure was developed way later. It fucking wasn't
We knew it. Yeah, it's a good bit of dlc. Actually, it's pretty bland
But uh, you know, it was made separately, but it wasn't made at a different time fill in the missing link you guys
I love you know what I miss that type of dlc where they were trying to be like
a s
Plug in the holes we left
It with money
There's a couple of games that did that. Well a dlc called true ending
Sarah's wrath
I don't prince of persia
Yeah prince of persia prince of persia 2008 did kind of do that nothing made me feel like
More furious than finishing a sura's wrath and seeing some fucking game
Get into my face
and say
Fucking pay me
For the fucking ending
That's shit
It wasn't any better or any more lightning than the fucking regular end. It's so good
Oh, that was the worst like yeah, I
I hope
whoever decided that
Falls down today
I don't wish their death
I don't wish a loved one died. I hope they fall down a set of stairs today
Like as there is about to punch a guy or whatever and then it pauses and like an old black and white
Dude with a cane in a top hat watching
Like walks and goes and he's got like four canes. I bet you're sure wondering what happened to me and the rest of this adventure a gang
Oh god or like my console like since I was playing a sura's wrath of 360 just somehow morphs like a slot
To put in dollar bills so I can see the rest of the fucking shit as I need of a sura's wrath
Oh
I hope max bites his own tongue today because he loves a sura's wrath
Okay, I was like, where's that going? No, that's that's that's the illest I could wish upon him. Yeah
um
Fucking pay me
Thank you like really think about that not the missing link either
Yeah, no, no, no. Yeah the fucking end. Yeah, cuz I was I was gonna go down
A joke branch. Yeah of like names of dlc things where it sounds like it's optional, but it's really not optional
You know the truth
Or you know the
Imagine we're playing dong dong never dies and it's like you give us more money so I can show you streets of rage 4
Questions answered dlc
You're like, fuck you man
Do I really get a choice here? Maybe it's optional, dude
But you'll learn the truth
I I need to look it up at what the time frame was but I think it might have been
I think the prince of persia ending was actually developed because they're like, oh, shit
People really hate the ending. We have to make something real quick. You go on the
You go on PSN and you're looking at ad-ons and you just see like like
Secrets revealed and it's just a main character's face going like
Like parks and rec face like shitty old thumbnail
YouTube like attention clickbait thumbnail, but they're doing clickbait antics
Like but not on youtube but on fucking your dlc store to be like, well, you won't believe what happens in this dlc
Little arrows with circles
pointing at
It's pointing at
Just giant asses, you know, like we start seeing the entire youtube thumbnail era dude. That's really strong recycling into dlc ads and thumbnails
Fuck getting clickbait clickbait dlc, dude. I'm telling you that's really the only place left to go
And you're playing like like journey or something and the thumbnail is just big titties
Oh man reactions
Anyway, a sura reacts to his own true ending
And he's like, oh
I can't believe it
And the end is like I said, there's fucking shit
Oh, man, you know what okay since you haven't seen it
You know the worst thing about the ending of a sura's wrath without me actually saying what it is
Is that you remember when you said?
The fucking asura starts dancing
And you said it pauses the ending
That's almost what it is where it's in a piece of artwork
And then when you put in more money
The true ending
It starts on that last shot. You saw from the ending
By playing that piece of shit. Yeah. Yeah, it's so flagrant. It's not like
It wasn't developed later. It was just fucking we need money
Just cut the ending in two and sell it
Adam jensen pranks in the hood
Step it on jordan's in the hood
Make up tutorials got a click got to find out
Uh
Oh my god. All right. All right
DLC in the hood
So anyway, uh
in not video game news
For like the eighth time we're being told that godzilla pacific ribbon kankong can cross over
And you know what I enjoy that people feel the need to tickle my balls
Every couple months. I enjoy it. Well, you read the quote. Yeah, I read the I read nothing but the quote
It's from the director because I know I know but like it's like it's like how many more of these stories do we need to do?
I click on it
I scroll past all the preamble bullshit
Okay, I throw it to this go straight to the thing where it says look
I think would be fantastic to have pacific rim universe join legendaries monster universe
Seems like a natural step in part of the overall plan for the third movie
We talked about that could happen. It's always a possibility not far from certainty
Merrily theoretical at this point as a fan. I'd love to see that happen. Great
Right, and this happens every couple months. Hi. This is the only actual
Like quote from someone that worked on it. Okay that I've ever seen a lot of it's like speculation or whatever
What I think even gives credence this ever actually happened is japan
Loves pacific rim. They're fucking making figures out the ass for pacific rim
Fucking
Shinkawa did the fucking poster for this like it's not like it's not robot jocks where japan's like what?
who
They they're aware of pacific rim. They're like, holy shit. Look at these americans
Fucking actually making this mecha thing. I can't believe it and that's the only thing that makes me go
But like toho and whoever the fuck owns king kong one of the other
American companies open king kong. It's still like messy. It's still not all clean. It's not like one person owns everybody
I think
Legendary owns
Has the license for making their own godzilla character up until a certain point 2020. I think
So if this is gonna happen, it's got to happen soon
But that's what the third pacific rim movie should be honestly. Hopefully yeah
um
Because king kong doesn't need it godzilla doesn't need a specific rim needs it
But they'd never
Dedicated number to that so much as they would create a new thing for everyone to have like
Because pacific rim battle royale
Who gets top billing king kong talk king kong godzilla or pacific rim pacific rim whoever owns
Monsters that they fight are them but whoever owns the thing wants their name top billing because king kong guys are going to be like
But king kong that's why I say that's why I say king kong is not the biggest
Okay, but the guys who paid the money and have the thing are gonna want to act like that's the truth
Even though it's not
You know what I mean?
So the problem there is like any other multi multi license crossover game
Is that you can't do this in the context of one thing
You have to create a new thing with a new series of fucking giant contracts to sign on the table
Why are they giant because you have to say that they're like novelty check size. No, no, no, no
They're just multi multi pages. They're huge thick contracts because who wins nobody because you can't have a king kong die
at the hands of a jager
You know, you can't have a fucking a jager blow up at the hands of godzilla
But then you do the simple versus movie thing or versus comic books
Whatever they all team up to kill the new monster
And then like godzilla looks up king kong sup and fucking gypsy gypsy
Avenger looks up and then they all look at the same monster and they turn and the crowd goes nuts
That's fucking money. Sure right there. Sure
But dude, but that's the thing is like there's no king kong aren't even inherently evil
Especially in their own movies people that own that have their brand
Want their brand to be the the thing and to have a crossover thing
I could be super wrong and it goes to the complete opposite direction right now
Right in the future when you click back on this and it's like wow it completely didn't go the way woolly was describing
Yeah, but I feel as if
traditionally people will go like
I want my property to get their respect it deserves and the only way for that to happen
To me for me to negotiate here is for us to create a brand new movie for all these things come together
Maybe yeah
We don't want to guest star in your pacific rim movie
So much as we want a triple billing. There's a godzilla too
Godzilla came a monsters then there's king kong versus godzilla and every other property doesn't have like a third or second thing
Like king kong has no
Follow-up movie right now predators don't show up in alien titles
You know they show up in avp's exactly. Yeah, you're right. You're right
But it's not going to be called pacific rim. It's not a it's not a character versus no, you know, it's got to be something else
That's why it's messy, but yeah, they're like godzilla versus kong on the pacific rim
Uh
Legendary has the rights to all these characters. So it's like
It could always happen. I'm just glad that this director is like. Yeah, we've talked about it
You know
Sure, but that's what a third pacific rim movie like it needs them more than king kong or godzilla needs pacific rim
Or just get ready player one to fucking do it
Or the rampage movie. Yeah. Yeah, sure exactly that literally has the monsters against you
Because guess what if you if you've read ready player one, you know where that story goes and like the finale
Leads to something that is kind of close to what we're talking about right now
It's a big wreck at Ralph fucking, you know license brand fap off. So fap off
Um, I like it. Yeah, so all right
What else is there? There's just the news that uh, oh, yeah, the assassin's creed launch trailer was really dope
Um, that's what the news story says the little witch academia chamber of time trailer was really nice
That game looks so good. The animation is beautiful. Hmm. And
There's a new fighting game called million arthur being announced. Oh, I don't see this
Squeenix really it's a arcade game. Whoa anime
anime anime thing arcana blood
Um is being arcade game is coming out based on I think a mobile series
getting adapted
so
Yeah, we're getting a new 2d fighter
and
it
looks
You know like an anime 2d fighter looks looks like a fisticuffs with not much else to say
Uh, you know, it looks like a fisticuffs
Fucking pray for death being added to steam. Sure. Yep
And slasher and every other thing that's just popped up but pray for death. Yep. What about expect no mercy?
Expect no mercy is not on steam. No, it's not just pray for death. Yeah, just pray for death
All right, let's uh, let's take some letters and get the fuck out ooo e-mails
If you have an email and you can tell us about how the uss enterprise might want to destroy cavemen
Uh, you can send it at super best friendcast at gmail.com
You know what I wanted to do, but I was too lazy
I wanted to grab some excerpts from last podcast when we said things such as I as quote as
uh
woolly
If that robot battle just had had one punch and he does a really cool sick thing
Do you want to talk about that? I mean very quickly not much else to say besides obvious. How'd you like that?
I mean, yeah, dude
You know like it. No, it's it's look look look. All right. Yeah, this is the tone of voice
You know, it's coming. You know what I mean
There's the tone of us where you can read it in advance
Because i'm so predictable
Yeah, dude, of course it was fucking it was not as
Hype as it was. Wait what? It was not as Hype as it was, you know
And then and what do you want me to like I wish the robots moved faster
And then there's a video not to wish they were just like but there's a video of like the torso moving really fast
And they're like we can do that
And there's a video of like crazy death machines and weapons being put on the thing
Yeah, and the dentist which is the fucking drill and whatnot arm they had
Okay, but then they did the livestream afterwards where they're like, but we don't want to kill each other a pilot being in it
Hurts it. Yeah, it does
Unfortunately it does now it's cool that there's a pilot in it, but you can still have a pilot
But that means that they're not willing to to do really dangerous cool shit
And or I'd rather I mean obviously I'd rather see two empty machines beat each other up
Well, the thing is is that like they were clearly willing they're like in the first thing they were clearly willing to fall
Right sitting in the cockpit. Yeah, but take a take a little bump six foot fall
Yeah, take a little bless what I mean, but like the curatesse was like, I don't want to don't hurt me
You know and like they're not gonna rip the screen off. They're not gonna blow the head up
They're not gonna, you know, so basically it's kayfabe
Right, but I was okay. I didn't know that this was a Kickstarter. Oh, you didn't know. No
So Liam's like I put in some money for that. Yeah
I don't think I got the product I wanted
What's the problem because he's like I didn't want it to be like fake. I wanted to be real
And I was like here's the problem. It wasn't fake enough
And it wasn't real enough. So it was trying to do well the fakeness aspect was when they had to describe how
Like between each pause that was like a day
Because they didn't hours of repairs on the robots to then recommence the next round
So practicality you can't do it live for those reasons, right? Yeah
So that's understood. You're probably gonna you're gonna have to have a filmed edited thing fine
The fact that you you know, like you're like, okay, you're taking little pot shots and doing like I'm gonna grab the thing
And what you planned out your little battle, right? Okay. And here's the thing
I would I want more than anything real fast battles with real fast danger
Yeah
That's the subtitle of a game real fast danger, but right understanding the technical and realistic limitations
At the if you're gonna go the k-fave route
Then like
You have to do it well. How about yeah, you can't have the fucking spanish announcers table
Running away to see a robot get put through the table. Well, you can do the announcers that ran from the fucking thing
Dude, don't do that. Did you see the chat? Just explode. Just go fake news fake news
Yeah, that was that was almost what we were talking about with kappa 200 000 people dude
Yeah, and then more millions later nothing is the zeitgeist of all human accomplishment
Then a big dumb fake robot
Pick up a piece of like a girder and just be like
Oh
Yeah
Shit with that girder and I just I want to know how much of it is holding back due to pilot safety
Versus like like it just doesn't move that fast, you know
like
Because you can clearly tell that guns do nothing in this type of battle because a paint gun is going to do not much
The only thing obscure your your your vision your copper which the fucking funnel that came out for a half second
Yes, it was a good idea
A lot of things came out for a half second and I saw the fucking drone pop up and I thought
Drones cool. I thought I'm like, oh
Shit, he's it's gonna go flying to the wheels and detonate
And then it just and then it didn't it just kind of landed and then like, you know
Put out some smoke which is a good idea
But then when you saw the claw grab it
You're like, how many mistakes that they film until the claw successfully grabbed it out of the air
Like an hour probably that's what i'm saying. I would watch lucha underground but with robots
Where it's all fucking staged and has dumb story lines and is completely fake, but this like the product is still exciting
Yes, as fake as it is when prince fucking puma gets in the ring
He delivers an exciting product. Yes, and that's the problem here. It's not that it's staged. It's that it's not exciting enough
Either way if it was real and boring
people would
Uh, for give it more watch it. They'd be like, oh that shit's boring, but they'd forgive it more
You know, they'd give it more slack because they're like fair enough the technology is just not there yet
But then you go and you look at fucking big dog and you see that crazy super sprinting dog robot
But that thing costs like millions of dollars. So why would you have that be destroyed in one episode?
It's like it's like in the captain american movie. Like why the fuck would we put you in the war?
You cost so much. It's insane. We don't want you to get shot idiot. No, we need a giant crazy
Saudi prince to just bankroll infinite dollars. Yeah, that's the that's so that we have no problems with destroying cool
Saudi prince save us from our tedium
right
Fun the cool shit so that we can destroy things without a worry about the cost
And things can move with a little bit more speed and higher pilots that don't mind taking a bump
Like you're not going to die in that thing and you're not going to throw a car
But if you're going to attack a thing at least let it fall over a little bit
I I really don't even think pilots are needed. Like
Like there needs to be someone controlling the thing
But just have them in a safe in a safe space
Because I'd rather see a machine get torn the fuck
pieces with a pilot doing I agree and I think that that could save it
And it would create like a problem with like, you know, perhaps like like radio control accuracy or whatever
But we get closer to Gundam build fighters basically at that point
Where you get to stand on the side and the thing gets destroyed properly
And you can have a one armed fight or like a cockpit get destroyed and it's fine
You know, that's a that's another winning round. Maybe this new challenger
In the form of the monkey king from china
Or any of the other 20 robot masters that have challenged megabots one must fall 29
Basically, uh, you know, we'll lead to something nice and they clearly pushed the league right away at the end of it
They were like, hey guys, we want this to happen. So you can it's the money ploy
They're doing them. We're doing it's the money ploy. Also
I kind of think with the reception that it got towards the
The the the the finale of the match
Like you probably lost a lot of viewers for just the fakeness of that last thing
Yeah, and i'm just like uh, hoping that because I would like to watch more and see it improved because it's like
There is something there even with the problems that it had
I think some network retooling. Did you because if you have 200,000 people watching on twitter, that's a lot
Did you watch the um, did you watch the the promo video they had of them doing it like a
Like a course. No, okay. So they had a whole promo video of them doing like an obstacle course, right?
And it was like right before that it came out
And that was the scriptedist super like like production value thing with a cool voiced commander
Going, all right boys. We got a mission for you today and on and it was a whole cinematic thing
Okay, and it's basically showing you their goal was to like
make this kind of
Fake robot mecha world right thing that but it but the thing but the thing the robot exists in real life, right?
And come on mad cat. Well, i'm more than anything what i end up thinking is fucking monster truck rallies
And carnosaurus or truck and all that shit and how like we have that, you know
And it's basically like those are not real those are super fake whatever stand plant battles, but
You can make this better while keeping it fake. Yes, I think so too and uh robot war is the original
stupid little little lawnmower things
Were a make there. I love watching that back because those were both fake and real at the same time
Yeah, they're faking that you had to have tons of editing time cut out of the thing. They had to bring in
Stunt bots to make it exciting because the real ones would break down all the time
But I couldn't stand when there was a kid on the team. Yeah
And that exactly but they were real in that the two people that brought their things would actually have to win somehow
Yeah, you know so anyway, um, yeah, that was the fucking
I'll I really really quickly as an aside when I was in cubs, which is basically like I know pre scouts
For a few years at home. Basically I pre scouts like uh in canada
We had like cub car races where you they gave you a block of wood. I was in beavers. Yeah, I was in beavers, too
Uh, they gave you a block of wood and you had to construct a car out of it
You know add anything you want, but then we would have a big competition where that this big track
Which is basically just a downward slope and then you'd try to win like it was your cub car the fastest and there was like
allegations of maybe
Dads using illegal equipment to supplement the cub cars
But a very hush hush like I don't know putting weighted leds
Inside the cars to give them more mass
That's bullshit and some dads would give do favors for other dads saying yeah, just it weighs the same to me
And I made a wolverine car
Like it was yellow and blue and it had wolverine like the superhero wolverine
Did you collude matt? No, I did not because I didn't even know what a colluded meant. Okay
I was just on a cool wolverine car
And I fucking got wrecked every time and everyone's cub car was the fastest
And I was just like what what what and I saw the kid that beat my cars like slap his dad
Like give him a dad a high five like yeah
And then like they dropped their cub car and it just
Collunked on the ground because it was so fucking heavy and illegal well there needs to be a cub car show
Well, maybe the spoiler sticking out the back was a clue
Maybe the muffler that was fucking letting off gas
And the rumbling of the engine was a little bit of a clue
Oh the fact that it had shredding blades on on its fucking wheels
Shredding up my like wolverine car wolverine mobile made with love and affection
Yeah, that's unfair. It was unfair
Fucking i'm richer than that kid is now. I'll tell you that
Fucking he's probably homeless
Uh
We got some emails coming in if you I mentioned I mentioned an email if you want to
Tell us about uh, how you cheated as a kid you can write into super best friendcast at gmail.com
Uh
Dear Patrick Matthew and Woolsworth Jason here
So the destiny lore is actually pretty good. Sure. I won't summarize it
We don't have time for that. No, but it's dueling philosophies and shit you guys love
But the problem is that it's impossible to get to because it's all tucked away in the grimoire in one
And the actual world lore is still mostly in item descriptions in two
I guess what i'm asking is if a game has an interesting story
But actually learning it requires dipping into art books listening to interviews
Maybe even going to a website that isn't part of the game
Is it good if it's so poorly implemented that actually understanding it requires digging around in research materials
Like nicolas cage vehicle national treasure
Uh points for the national treasure
I
I haven't found a game yet that I like yeah, I love digging to find that
Haven't found that game yet. I'd rather it all be in the product somewhere. It doesn't have to be in your face
Like I think souls games do it fine. Yeah, it's just there. Um, I've always been of like
I wish I could learn about overwatch heroes rather than buying this fucking comic book that no one can get or find
I don't know where it is. Overwatch is a pretty good example
Where is it? Where's the thing and I
Wish I didn't have to constantly play the game here one new voice clip that maybe might shed a light between two characters
It's a cross media event. It's almost like it's it's stories as a service
fuck
I
feel like uh
A good story is a good story no matter what at the end of the day when you put it all together
If it's a good story, you can't pretend it's not. Oh, yeah
It can be delivered in poor poor methods. Yeah, and uh, I definitely feel that yeah, the more you don't put in the thing
The more of a disservice it is. Right same goes for movies
Games is the same same for movies, right? I'll never forget that art book for um, um
You know the one that makes it better
Prometheus
Yeah, where it explains the dumb shit and goes and makes you go. Oh
That would have been a lot better if you did that. Yeah, right?
Um, and I think one of those makes the movie worse because you're like, why didn't you put that in there?
Yeah, and overwatch is is is like
It's it's good and it's good on its own, but like no definitely is
You know like a thing where I'm like, oh, someone told me there's this area comic got and I was like, oh, fuck
I wasn't paying attention. Yeah, there is and and it's not like you boot up the game and then it says on the boot on the
Main menu. Hey, go read it and tell tell it might be always tell you when there's a new DC
It'll be there on the blizzard launcher though, right? So you'll have to you you'll you'll see it on the blizzard launcher along with
Uh, uh, what's his name?
Kaplan, yeah
Like overwatch could use a glossary section in the extras or the options or something
Just a wiki an encyclopedia or something just to
Put all that stuff and that's that's and that's the thing is if you at least have a dump section
It's better than nothing marvel infinite has a dump section
No, it does and it's just a glossary of random parts. It's like x buster
um
Chris's magnum
Whatever, you know rebellion or just for had the timeline and the little thing the little extra mgs4 had an entire wiki
Yeah, and it was incredible
It was a slow was a separate piece of software that you had to download. Oh, yes. Yes. It was see that even is fine
It doesn't even you have to be in the main game, but it has to be deliverable
On the on the yeah on the web sites on your computer if you play overwatch on pc
Don't count if you make a separate game or program or whatever and you release it alongside as a companion thing
That's fine too because it's at least in on the same location
Like killer ink stink has that extra disc that
Launches an app that's in your games an app section for killer ink stink extra shit. Yeah, so has the documentary has this the
Soundtrack kind of and it's got like art and whatever like that's fine, too
uh one that's on the
In recent memory for me is mirrors edge catalyst because
Uh, when you play mirrors edge like original especially you get the story that's there and you're like, okay, whatever
Um, and then there's the comic and then there's the other mirrors as comic here, which flashes things out a little bit
They're not like amazing, but they just give you a bit more context for what's going on
And then the game is constantly like if you want to find out why faith got locked up to begin with
Got a book. Yeah, and you're like, I yeah, man. I get it. Okay. Cool. Thanks. And then it never goes away
That's really annoying because the game's constantly telling you
You know, it's like like while I just said it's not like the game
Like overwatch tells you where the comic is out. Yeah, I don't mind getting a notification about it once
But don't make every fucking loading screen to tell me to go read the fucking con. I read it
I fucking read it. Okay. And the second thing should be a problem that says I read it and then you press it and it's like, okay
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then the second one is um
One of the most interesting things about catalyst is when you find the hidden
parcels you get pieces of world lore, right?
And they're the most obscure things that no one is going after here
Okay, like and and and in a game like catalyst where the average person just didn't just dropped it after
You know playing it once or whatever
like
there's
You know, I know a lot of people didn't like it and that's fine. I I still had fun with it. But um, the the the secrets you find
Tell you about okay. This is what the world was like before these megacorps were the government, right?
Right, so it couldn't be even more removed from what's currently happening in the game. Yeah, it's like this is the gray lands
This is and it's just
Breaking down all these little tidbits about like the history of mirrors edge and like that world and why it is the way it is
And I found that stuff to be infinitely more compelling than the story that took place in the game
One of the fucking coolest things was do you know why I think I told you talked about it when I beat the game
But do you know why the city is so colorful and weird while still while being gray?
I think you told me but I forgot why because every
corporation is represented by a color
And that corporation is also the government since this is like a like almost like a um
capitalist dictatorship society. Yeah, and
So like kruger sec represented by blue for example or pere dello is blue when you're in that area of the city
Their colors are their brand and that's why that's all blue like we own blue
Yeah, and then you another corporation
Oh is their brand is yellow or purple and that corner of the city is that color and that's why mirrors edge looks the way it does
with
I
I thought it was just like the way that the art style right and it's easy to go. Yeah, that is just the art style
It was a cool bold choice, but it has lower implications that are like like really well thought out
I was like that's really interesting
It is um, and and yeah, it was annoying that that was in the game
But still buried so fucking deep
That no one would have any idea or give a fuck about it. You know, um, like fortunately
There's that overwatch art book coming out. Maybe that has kind of like even that even just
If it's not in the game it's not in a digital format even just one sort of bible slash glossary art book
Whatever it is as long as it has that it's like, yeah, that's it's fine too. I guess
But that's like the last
Rung where I'm willing to kind of accept it because I don't want to go to uh
There's some of the game that did this really really poorly where you have to go to several different things
It's like a few years ago
There was like you had to read you can only read bios of the characters on a site
Then there was other shit. I don't know but like it does it's never optimal
And I'm like I don't think anyone should design their game to be like that like either have no story at all
Or at least put your story easily reached because people do like read about the the lore and the world building so
And that's why Dark Souls does it well because you actively have to search throughout the game
And look at your so fucking surround needs to make your own conclusions. Dude worse comes to worse you go play
Ixard and story mode is just a sit and watch mode. Yeah. It's literally just watching cut scenes
I've always been meaning to with no gameplay to play through it
Yeah, you just you know arcade is there with some extra story too
But they put the thing in there if you really want to know what's up, you know
So, yeah, that's that's I hope that answers your question, dude
Uh, we got one coming in from
Ryan and he says, oh, excuse me, uh, Kai
Okay
When you send me the email and I see your name and then at the bottom it's tagged with like oh, you're tagged
Then I'm like, I don't I don't know dude. What do you want me to do? All right? Um, you want me to do with this?
Uh
He says
he says
Finding you guys since the downpour playthroughs been following your main channel and individual stuff. Keep it up
Since it's almost it's almost halloween. What are you say some of your favorite creature designs?
Uh
Uh
relic
The cathaga the cathaga. Yep. Um way up there way up there way up there
I want to go outside my regular wheelhouse of like predators aliens and such
Uh, really really horrifying creature design monster was at the end of the first wreck
You know record the spanish, um horror movie
It's the and it's an actor that's like built like this. They're incredibly thin
I think they have some you know
Some not maybe not illness but condition or whatever that they're incredibly tall and lanky and that was like
a drooling
Hairless just straggs of hair and like topless
vaguely female and just that that thing was the that that zombie monster or whatever
in wreck was always kind of struck me as like
Fuck that's that's rough. Um, and the scissor walker as a more
You know lately from the scissor walker character in the the the game night cry
I thought was also really strong design because it was designed by the guy that created pyramid head
And so that's that's a strong one
Everything from pans labyrinth. Yes, obviously 100 percent of the content and pans labyrinth
And a lot of the stuff from hellboy both hellboy is as strong too because it's the exact same shit
And the parent monster from um, I won't from uh smt
Uh, was it not? I don't know if it was nocturne or not, but there's one of the smt games parent parent parent
There's one of the smt games where you fight a boss
That is the amalgamated bodies of the parents of the characters
I can't see how that would be. It is
horrifyingly emotionally disturbing. It is fucking parent ball
Yeah, so that's cool. Um, not to mention, um
While i'm thinking while my brain is in there the brahman
In uh dds is fucking cool as well. There's some good shit. Yeah, there's a lot. Yeah, but but del Toro really del Toro. Yeah
Um
There's lots of stuff really it's blinded by choice. Yeah
and like
Different versions of kufulu. I think are stronger than others
There's some that i'm like, yeah, and there's some that i'm like, oh, yeah
Like vince big man in the rustling chair. I've seen different versions. I'm like
My chair is so right right right
Uh, okay, let's take one from
Where'd you go?
Miss you so
Dear shivering in anticipation
Now you're reading the question and now you're like, mm
Patient cast
If you've given the opportunity to star in your own harem anime, would you
Are there any downsides wait star in it? Yeah, like as a voice. Yeah
No, like be in real life
No, a bit like a live action show would no create a harem anime situation, but in real life
No
Fuck no, what's the downside?
That's a like
That's too much. I couldn't I can't handle one woman. I can't even do that if you would you like some money
Yes, please no money equals no problems. Will the rules are this if you choose
Oh, these rules six to ten characters from any media to join you in your home
In addition, you get one superpower that makes you extra special. This is some this is some fucking
Yeah, you see this is this is what i'm talking about. Yeah, this is what i'm talking about
You get one superpower that makes you extra special
You can live in this harem world as long as you want
But as soon as you have sex with any of them you're transported back to the real world poise quiet is never to return
Yeah, no, I'd rather live in that house
Would you do it?
But I would you take this ability to have a superpower and then have sex with a fictional character
Get out. Yeah, I wouldn't no you just continue living. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. That's far more interesting
Cool. Last. Oh, okay. Yeah, great. I would do the free thing with no downsides and then go back to living my normal life. Yes
Fantastic, okay. Well done
It's like this. Good job. If you leave you die. Well
I think I'll stay
Hey, what are you? What do you look?
What do you like ask yourself that question and think about what the answer would be my friend? Yeah, um
Yeah, what Kevin says, um
Super best sumo friends you guys doing great. Keep it up. Thank you very much
What shopkeeper in a video game would you buy from?
Uh, and what item would you buy my answer? Say someone that's not already for a shop. Yeah, well because that's the funny guy. Yeah
Um, my answer is drubbin from mgs4 and the item I would buy is a phoenix down. All right. Well. Yeah, that's obviously a winner
Sure, you get to come back to life and and you hang out with a cool guy
Um, there's a lot of shopkeepers from zelda. I would love to buy stuff from
bet there's so many i'm kind of
Going through my zelda shopkeeper roller decks was that was that was that girl at the tavern and in uh
night cry
Uh a shopkeeper, uh
She was the beast. She was the beast hunt
I would say yes, and and and battle chasers night war night war. I keep saying night cry. It's fine night cries again
I just talked about but uh, I she's not a shopkeeper, but she serves the same function
So I'd say yes, that's our current go-to. That's the go-to name fed a fed of the beast master
Sarah
Forget her name. You'll know her when you see her. You'll see her when you know her
Uh, what item would you buy?
item would I buy
Phoenix downs, you know, it's hard to beat that. I like an apple gel. I always want to know what an apple gel tastes like in the tales of games
It's just it just gives you health back, but I'm like apple gel. Hmm
um
Yeah, I guess
Yeah, I'm sure there's some fucking bayonetta item or weapon that we're like, yeah
Yeah, yeah, that was fucking anklet of mahala or whatever bracelet of mahala
I don't know like at the end of that like there's some probably an item that lets me always ukemi
Yeah, like there's probably some incredible like
You know, um morph ball
buy a morph ball
Roll out of bed
The the the the auto parry uh item in in cup head so that anything that hits me I just parry
Yeah, I thought bar needs to be more countering. Yeah, so there's that you can do you know
I'm sure there's an awesome like
Unstoppable like weapon that lets you be a god if you really just you know if you apply yourself
You're like an undo button or something ridiculous. Yeah. Oh the dagger of time. I want to buy the dagger of time. Sure. Yep. Yep
That's not a bad one
Um telma's telma's got telma's way up there. Mm-hmm. There's some good shopkeepers
all right, well
Sorry for that answer
I thought that was okay
Jacob wants to know if we played the siphon filter games
I played Logan shadow
I played the ps2 port and I think it was like a
It was the psb version of the game and then it
Ported it to the ps2 something like that. I played that I know there's like later siphon filter games are actually quite quite good
But when it started no, I was like fuck this
Fucking metal gear rip off man. That's so gross
And I was like of that attitude for a while
But then I looked it up and I'm like, yeah, there's some actually decent games
So when you get away from metal gear
And that fanboy is a for a bit when metal gear was so hot
You're just like, yeah, fuck anything else because there was a million fucking metal gear ripoffs at the time
In the year 2000 back when uh, the arcades were taking a lot of my allowance
We needed to find ways to
Stretch our dollars and what we used to do was go burn copies of siphon filter
We used to go up to palet Descartes aka a card palace and we would play, uh
their
Like okay, so micro play had two dollars for half an hour
Oh, right. Palet Descartes was two dollars for as long as you wanted
Until that's like seedy almost until the guy noticed and like, you know would be like hey, someone else wants to play
Basically, I mean the guy noticed like you could play until he noticed you just came on and paid two bucks to sit down and play a game
And then you just sat and you just sat there and then as long as no one else came up and said hey
I want to play you you should just keep playing. Okay, so it was right whereas like it was cool
Oh, yeah, because we got to because we got to play when the dreamcast came out because
2000 and we got to play fighting games that were across the street, but for longer on less money
And um or whereas over at micro play
They put a timer that fucking started and beeped as soon as you sat down and it was aggressive as fuck
So like a bouncer that throws your ass out when we weren't playing the two k sports games
And we weren't playing the fighting games
You're playing the siphon we're playing siphon filter to multiplayer
I didn't even know and I have no experience with the single player game
But those multiplayer fucking sessions were intense
I forgot that pandora's pandora tomorrow on spinersoul has a really fun multiplayer mode spies versus mercs
That's what it was called. I don't everyone love that mode
Also, the name siphon filter was always fun to say. Yeah
Uh
And brandon wants to know based on um talking about
Keto boxing and trying to improve health overall what the health goals are for everybody if they have any
Um, I think since it was kind of geared at me. I'll answer sure that uh
Trying to mainly get
out of
obese bmi range
That's always that's the goal
Because you're like, I don't look or feel obese
But it says I am on this chart. Yeah, so let's get it into
It's also strictly accurate. Let's get it into the normal colors and that's about it. So that means is getting down to I don't know
Um, quite a bit less than what I am right now. Yeah, uh me the same. I'd love like I've
Gone back up gone back down
Uh, you know, I would you know right now. I'm like
240 ish I want to like get rid of 40 pounds like that's kind of my goal over like another year
Uh, because now's now's the time not getting any older. Uh any younger. I've always get not getting any younger
so I I'd want to do that and um
Yeah, like the other thing is like gotta drink more water. We were talking about this in new york
It's like never stop drinking water. And what was your thing?
You're like, you'll look at a bottle of water and you're like, I don't even want to drink this now
I'm just I don't know. I'm done
You drink so much in new york. We were just talking about water and yeah
Literally never stop drinking water. Yeah, and you'll look at and be like, I'm full of water. I'm just done
I'm constantly full of water
Um, so yeah, I gotta I gotta drink more
I guess that's that um, yeah, I'm not trying to get ripped and certainly not trying to become a professional boxer
uh
But just well, you know, we want to know how to hit the bags properly and spar with people for fun. Um
But yeah, outside of that. It's really just maybe kill a man
But not die
You not die. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you know, that's noble noble your fitness goal should always be not dying not die
What's your diet not die good?
I like that
Not die forever. Yep
All right, we uh emails good emails good, uh, what read an article talking about how
It's not the sugar gives you cancer. It just makes the cancer cells grow faster if you have cancer, right? I was like
Good thing I'm off the sugar, but whoo
Uh, what is what is coming up? Uh, patch should be back like in a day or two
So we're gonna have to record more marvel
Versus uh cap capom
Uh, you and I did actually a bunch of one-offs. I haven't even gone up yet. Uh, we took a look at fight and rage
Carville versus map com
We took a look at fight and rage look at troll and I and then there was another one we we played
What was it still hasn't gone up either? I can't remember but um, and uh,
Bebe bebe bebe bebe bebe should storm continues. We have a few more left to record of that
And then once november a couple other one-offs we should probably get
Yeah, definitely
Uh, then in no start november, you'll be seeing another horror re um lp
And then yeah, we uh, yeah the last episode of mark echo should be going up soon too. Wow
Wish it was longer
Wish I could have played it more
How about that ending?
Yeah, so that's that's the the fucking
That's the teaser leaving here. Oh my god. Wow
Wasn't that satisfying? Wow
Um, any any games few words any games coming out of this stuff that's coming out here this week?
You're looking forward to mario odyssey mario fucking odyssey
I'm gonna leave all these third party like triple a's like alone
Until the xbox one x comes out because then I'll I don't want to reinstall everything on two systems twice
I don't care what the transfer process is. I'm just gonna not buy them until the x comes out
Then I'm just gonna get the x and install them there like assassin's cre origins and and um
Wolfenstein new colossus
So then I'm just I'm gonna be fine playing mario odyssey also
The game that kind of fucking
Uh made me look a little bit dumb on twitter. It was like three days before it was re-announced to coming out
I was like man. Does anyone remember that mummy de mastered game? That's never coming out sure. Hope way forward got fired for that
That's coming out tomorrow. Well done. So it actually looks quite good. So I want to give that a go and hit an agenda
Uh the
non-vr game that the makers of until dawn made which is
Literally what we wanted out of david cage games where you play as a cop
You know i'm talking about the inpatient
No, this is hit an agenda game where you play as both a cop and a lawyer
And you try to track down a serial killer and everyone plays it like
Fibbage with their phones
Where one of you is actually working with the killer and you are doing things with your phone
Oh, it's like a werewolf game. Yeah. Is there a tv involved?
Yes, you're playing it on the ps4 and everyone just connects with their phones. Oh, it's both. I see. So it's a very locally
Played game. Okay. So it's one of you has a
Hidden agenda. I see so it's a it's a it's a like social board game type
Yeah, you can also not play it like this at all and just play it like a straight up
A thriller action game
It's a wait. It's like a third person. Yes
So what are the people on their phones doing because when there's choices moral choices to be made?
Uh, all of you kind of I think vote for what the player to do
But one person is like counter voting one person wants you to do
One person is chosen to be the person with a hidden agenda. I'm doing a bad job explaining
Well, do you have to watch hours of game story go by or is it like a mini? I didn't play it
I don't know. Yeah, it got buried in e3 news because that company announced three games simultaneously
There's a lot of questions. I have now that you're talking about people on their phones playing with you
I'm like, do you have to call people over so that you can do mission five?
You know what I mean if you want to I'm not sure if it's like a drop-in drop-out thing
Or is it just a half an hour story or you know, like it's longer than that. What's it? What's the what's the deal?
But it comes out tomorrow
Are we just doing like like telltale?
Liam wants to do a stream event maybe we can go over and play with them because the more people with that better
I think it's like it supports up to like four other people or something. Yeah, if you'll have me
And Liam also told me about the invisible hours
Yes, so I'm gonna go look at that. Yeah, you yeah, he uh, he was raving about that that was um
That's like an adventure game in psvr. That's just a that's an actual movie. You beat it in two hours
But it's like it's like a god clue where you just walked around saying who did it?
You're an investigator or something. You know what else is an actual movie?
Thor Ragnarok
Which is coming out next next weekend November 3rd
Oh good, then I'm not gonna
Okay, cool. You're not gonna be a to a can of a cup. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, November 3rd
98 around tomatoes really looking forward to it. Sure
Yeah, I mean it's the closest we're gonna get to world war hulk
It literally is world war hulk. I assume
I know but like there's no there's gonna be no hulk through world who who didn't send hulk
To the planet who did send hulk to the planet? That's not in the mr. Fantastic. Mr. Fantastic dr. Strange
Oh black bolt in black bolt with me part of it. Mr. Fantastic dr. Strange iron man iron man
Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, what's his name professor?
No, no, was that wrong? Was it black bolt and uh, it's the Illuminati. Yeah, the Illuminati smart guys. Um
There's one more
We're gonna get this wrong. Yeah, of course. That's what we do. That's what we're here for
Everyone screaming at us about how wrong about death we were in marvel vs. Capcom
What death is constantly not a skeleton and constantly talks. Oh, yeah. Yeah, just when we knew her
She was just silent skeleton lady. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah
My mistake. No, don't look at the comments of that marvel video. I I haven't yet
Everyone's just like you fucking idiots
Someone was making a reference to something about death on twitter
But uh, like about the podcast and like, oh my god, I can't wait or whatever
But I was like, I don't know what you're talking about
Yeah, I know it's about the last part of marvel vs. Capcom the one up because of the the female form. Yeah, right. Oh, okay
While we get everything else my mistake. Anyway, um
Namor black bolt professor x tony stark. Yeah, I was right. I said professor x. I got that right
I said black bolt and I was right
I didn't know about namor namor jeez. Yeah, he's not in the mcu. So yeah, he's in campin susan can't get enough
Everyone wants to fuck fishmen nowadays
Strangely attractive. It's it's it's the the four fish
sex kings
Aquaman side on guy from shape of water and namor
What about the original strangely attractive for a fishman who no one even knows rikkyo anymore
Rikkyo, what's he started it? His name all bad. What's his name in japan?
I just said it. No, what he has a japanese name all bath. Yes
Rikkyo
Yeah, that's a different name
In japan, he's called all bath in in america. He's called rik rikkyo. Yeah, and you asked me the question after I answered it
I'm sorry. I
I literally said it. All right. Anyway, the yes, this is the fish sex gods
await you in valhalla
They're fishy