Castle Super Beast - SBFC 222: Pride & Accomplishment

Episode Date: November 14, 2017

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Starting point is 00:00:48 That is true. Hey, welcome back. We're all here. Performing. Poor Vue. Oh, man. Hey, what up? So, you said you're an egg now?
Starting point is 00:01:00 I'm sorry, what? You said you're an egg now? Oh, I heard you say something very different and much darker, but... How about we just go with the egg now? I'm not pause. I'm an egg. You wanna take that narrative somewhere? Anywhere that goes?
Starting point is 00:01:17 I shaved my head and beard. All right. And it's mostly back now. Okay. Wow, a lot of lore there. Everyone flipped their shit when I shaved, even though I've shaved like three or four. You can go back to watch like old videos that have live action bits and I'm shaved in those, but nobody lost their mind.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Nobody made a comic of your beard flying off your face. Oh, man, that was really good. That was really good. Did you see the sequel? Where it comes back? Yeah, I did. Oh, man. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Now, it'll be back in like a week, guys. Jeez, chill. Chill your beard boners. I mean, it's also like Movember, so the timing was odd, I suppose, but... Yeah, it's my playoff beard. It's not during the playoffs. Cool. How's it going?
Starting point is 00:02:04 It's fine. It got up really early. What? What? Oh, yeah. Going back to bed. Yeah. It got up and it's like 12, 20.
Starting point is 00:02:15 I'm like... That's not... Oh, we got to do a thing. Is that why you were hauling ass when I saw you outside? Well, I was hauling ass because I need to get something to eat because I haven't eaten. All right. So, all morning. So, I'm like, ah, and I walk in and I got nothing and I walk out.
Starting point is 00:02:29 I'm like, ah... Man, let me ask you a question. What time do you actually usually get up in the morning? Usually, I get up to feed Kitty Town. Yeah. And once Kitty Town is fed, I then make... I then option select whether to stay up at 8 a.m. and get shitloads of work done. Yeah, or shitpost on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:02:47 Or that, or go to bed. And I went halfway where I was like, I'll lay on the couch and put on some type of YouTube video and watch that. Oh, yeah. No, that's... So, I did that and just I wake up at like 12, 20 and I'm like, oh... Well, the reason I ask is because as unbelievable as it sounds, now that my sleep schedule normalized after the jet lag from Japan, I'm now doing 12 to 8 every day.
Starting point is 00:03:18 And I have done so every day for the past like week and a half. How does that feel? It's fucking weird, man. Yeah, I can imagine. It's fucking weird. Like, no one's awake but me. Everyone is awake. Well, I mean like...
Starting point is 00:03:35 Outside. Well, yeah, no, not outside. I mean, all the people I usually talk to or Twitter at or fucking whatever, everyone's dead. Well, when you wake up at like 7.30 a.m., Max is still streaming from last night. Yeah, he's always awake. But like, you know, if you're like me and you get power from the nighttime, then like that weird like dusk or excuse me, dawn of like, you know, there's no sunlight but also
Starting point is 00:04:06 it's blue. I like that light. I really don't like that. No, I like that. I hate it. I like that for a little bit. That drains whatever's left out of me because it's like, it's not even the niceness of a day or the awesomeness of a night.
Starting point is 00:04:21 It's neither. It's just this meh. I think I can like, you're at Dawson, you're staying after to finish work. And then you look out and you see that light? That's bad light. And that's when I really didn't like it. I've been doing a pointillism piece for the last, God knows how many hours, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot.
Starting point is 00:04:39 And then you crack a peek outside and you go, fuck my life. Yeah. Yeah, because it's like everyone's gone home. See, like that's a college, by the way. I actually appreciate that. Like waking up when it's dark is weird. That's the weirdest feeling by far. Yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Because like, did I even go to bed? So then you look, seeing the sunrise is cool. I like that. Yeah. But much, much more depressing by far to me is I wake up and it's kind of daytime and then I go to anything and then by the time I'm done that, anything, it is already dark. That is the most fucked. You're your first slot of the day means everything else is now done.
Starting point is 00:05:20 I have for many years now been in the time slot of winters here. That means of my 16 hours awake, 14 of them will be in darkness, therefore even worsening the bags under my eyes and whatnot. I think like the whole sunrise thing only works if you are in a remote setting, like you're like, I'm going to get up and go to the waterfront by my cabin and enjoy this. Then sure, that's fine. That's where your sunrise can give you power, but otherwise. At Liam's cabin, that's like over a lake.
Starting point is 00:05:57 That's literally what I was describing. That will replenish your life more. Yeah, yeah. I understood. Absolutely there. And Japanese sunrise in what you're going to call it. Anything. Hakone.
Starting point is 00:06:13 In any media really. But beyond that to me, it's just like, dude, I've been getting so much stuff done. Like stuff that I've been putting off for weeks because, oh, I wake up and got to go to work by the time works over. Everything closes in one hour. Thus, it all has to be done on a weekend. But on the weekend, you're like, no, it's my weekend. I want my weekend.
Starting point is 00:06:34 I feel like, am I old now? Did I flip the switch to old man? Feeling like you're getting robbed of your day. I flipped the switch to old man like 20 years ago, dude. I sure did. Yeah, you know, you Benjamin Buttoned it. The idea of feeling like you're being robbed of your time every day is basically the process of being old.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Well, there's 10 vampires everywhere. There is. You know? What if there were first vampires? Sonic forces. Oh. Oh, hold that. Consciousness itself is the ultimate time vampire.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Time vampire, right? Oh, fuck. That's right out of you. All right, let's talk about some weeks. Okay. Nothing really happened. I don't think any games came out. Sonic forces came out.
Starting point is 00:07:20 No movies. Nothing really going on. Sonic fucking forces came out. It did. Hey, who saw Thor? I saw Thor. I didn't see Thor. Oh, great.
Starting point is 00:07:30 You should go see Thor. I should. Because it's a good movie. You saw Thor? I did. I'll throw out a one negative. Let me know if you agree. The first half hour before Thor gets to gladiatorial planet,
Starting point is 00:07:44 Socar, is like a messy half hour of like editing like problems or just felt a little clunky. And I'm just like, okay. Oh, so it's a Thor movie. Well, no, because once, you know, it establishes like, I'm stuck at this planet. Like that's the plot. And it jumps around so much at the start that it was actually just like, it just had like an awkward story flow. It was still entertaining, but I was just like, it's kind of weird.
Starting point is 00:08:11 But once he gets to the planet, like then it starts firing on all cylinders. I think it was the best Thor movie. Oh, yeah. I think it was. I think I could say that from the trailers. And definitely like the formula is in full effect at this point to the most predictable manner. Like we're just cranking, we're turning everything into the Guardians of the Galaxy style.
Starting point is 00:08:33 It was the most popular one. Let's just get that level of comedy going. Also Iron Man, you know. Yeah. But Iron Man, I don't know. It's also kind of like that at the beginning. Funny. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:43 Because Tony Stark's funny. Captain America movies remain pretty grand, like Civil War and Winter Soldier. Yeah, but like Winter Soldier is closer to like the Borne Ultimatum or something than it is like a superhero movie. And Civil War turned into just an Avengers movie. Essentially. But I think they'll take the Guardians of the Galaxy template and use it on anything that's not working.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Yeah. Like the Thor movies. Yeah. Like I think Black Panther will not be Guardians of the Galaxy. Like not even close. No. But also like Captain America. But also like the director is like not really that kind of guy.
Starting point is 00:09:15 No, no. You directed Creed. Yeah. So I don't think he's going to be doing gags a minute, you know. Yeah. But he's a director. He's not a writer, you know what I mean? So the script can still be whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:09:25 That's true too. But I don't see a ton of like T'Challa jokes flying fast and loose. Yeah. I don't think he's got a hot minute. A hot five. I don't think there's T'Challa. Tight five. I don't think there's time for Claw to just go, oh, Africa.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Right. In that movie. Yeah. So there's definitely the, you know, the goofiness that you see with Bilbo. What's his name? Martin Freeman. Martin Freeman. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Yeah. No, he was right. Yeah. But he could be funny. He could be a Bilbo. He's good at funny. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:10:05 That's the first role I saw him in. The first role I saw him in was Hitchhiker's Guide, where he was funny. And then in Fargo, he's pretty funny as well. I watched one episode of Fargo. We just couldn't get around to watching more, but we planned to. It's solid. And he does a really good job basically being the William H. Macy type character. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Oh, dear. Yeah. I know. Yeah. I thought I think I like that we're moving slowly towards a professor like Hulk. A little bit. Yeah. I enjoyed that part of it.
Starting point is 00:10:39 He's getting there. I have a strong feeling that you're never, ever, ever going to see that on the big screen. No, probably not. No, I think there could be a thing. In fact, unless they decide to make it the whole point of the movie. A sequence. Yeah. Like it's the gimmick of the movie.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Because you notice how what they've been doing has been like, let's take a major event and turn it into just a single moment in a movie. Yeah. And you know, Planet Hulk turned into like this one moment of him being in the gladiator arena. But the idea of him becoming a smart Hulk that then is at risk because when he loses his temper, he becomes weak puny and useless is really fun to me. Whereas then him being large, gigantic and like incredibly smart is awesome. And I'd like to see that in a way that like, you know, maybe with the next phase of movies.
Starting point is 00:11:28 They're not phase, but generation. Oh, yeah. Phase four. No, no. The phases are moving on and like Homecoming 2 marks the beginning of like the second arc. Well, the second arc. Oh, man. There's going to.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Homecoming 2. Yeah. Oh, you didn't catch this. No. So there's 22 movies. Like in totality. And then Homecoming 2 begins the new age. But why Homecoming when it's not even 100% Marvel?
Starting point is 00:11:57 Because Spider-Man will still be alive at the end of Infinity War. It just happens to be the movie that hits that timeline because Infinity War is going to end. Yeah. That'll be the end of the timeline that we know. Yeah. And then Homecoming 2, they said, and starts the big new beginning. No, I didn't catch that. Does that does that account for buying Fox?
Starting point is 00:12:15 I mean, it probably accounts for everyone's contracts being not buying Fox. Yeah. Because they, you know, don't be surprised if like some actors get recast or changed. Oh, yeah. Or they start focusing on another group of heroes entirely. Tough question. Is there anyone you'd be like, I can lose them. I know no stakes in that guy.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Actor or character? Both. Like who is someone that you feel is really indisposable. I actually really like Jerry. You mean disposable. You mean disposable. Sorry, disposable. Yes.
Starting point is 00:12:47 I'm going to say Captain America. The problem is that at this point, like anyone you replace is going to be awkward, right? If someone was to die, Captain America would be the most awesome to die. Yeah. Because he would die. Super kind of die. I guess I should put it like this. Like I hate actors getting replaced in things ever.
Starting point is 00:13:08 So you'd rather the character die off and the actor doesn't get replaced? Because I just feel so weird by the same. You know what I mean? Like the roadie thing still bothers me. You know what I would actually really like? I would like for fucking Mr. Tony to get fucking killed and you get goddamn war machine movie with Don Cheadle. I mean, I guess. The thing with Downey getting killed is that he can totally get killed because Doctor Strange can comfortably fill the role of sarcastic asshole.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Oh yeah. Downey Jr. though, I like his attitude and charisma. So like I don't want to see less of that. But he's so fucking tired of your man. I know, I know, I know. So it's a hard question. He's put in the times. All I'm saying is it's a hard question for me.
Starting point is 00:13:49 So I guess that all I can really pick it is who I care about the least and I think I care about what our soldier the least. I like Hawkeye. Yeah, you mean Bucky. I'd rather a movie Hawkeye, movie Hawkeye can go. I like Hawkeye. I like Hawkeye with him. I don't even mind him, but he can go. No, I like that he's like a normal weirdo.
Starting point is 00:14:05 I think if I had to pick, if you're forcing my hand, I'd say Bucky. Yes, but I like Bucky. So that, you know what I mean? At this point, it's like everything's pretty fun. The ladies love Bucky. I think Thor can go. No, Loki can. No.
Starting point is 00:14:21 No, Thor can go, but Loki can't. Every one of these. You see this Thor movie? Now I don't want Thor to go. At the end of Dark World, I would want Thor to go. The question sucks because they're all fine now. Vision, I guess, if you want to pick something. I wouldn't mind.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Yeah, vision. You know what I want really bad? I don't want Black Widow to go because I want that Black Widow movie. You know what I like? Maybe this is selfish and I want to see it all burn, but I want Infinity War Part One to come out, and I want to see one full third of that cast list just get fucking iced. Just like Chris Pratt and Robert Downey Jr. and all those guys just decapitated. I mean, no, but there's rumors that the...
Starting point is 00:15:04 There's going to be wipeouts. There's rumors? There's going to be wipeouts? Yeah. But there is. Okay, but what I was going to say is that there's rumors that it's going to be a heist movie that is basically... No, no, not even rumors.
Starting point is 00:15:19 I saw an interview that the director was like, yeah, it's going to be a heist movie where it's Thanos stealing everything. Appiring the stones. Yeah, that's it. And I'm like, that sounds great. And then the second one is the actual war. And I'm like, that makes a lot of sense because let's face it, two movies is a long time for a big space battle.
Starting point is 00:15:38 Yeah, man. So it's really... But you guys even have all the stones. So imagine if they tried to put in getting all the stones and a big war movie and one movie. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So you definitely need time on that. But whatever.
Starting point is 00:15:50 All that to say that Thor, it was fun because they had goofy jokes that then became... The soundtrack starts as a joke in most scenes and then the scene cuts away, but it keeps playing. So that background song that was like a punchline is now actually just the song of this moment. Yeah. It's like, you know, they really just... It's like doing the Zack Snyder thing, but effectively. Oh man, an effective Zack Snyder.
Starting point is 00:16:20 I wish I could see that one day. They really just said, we got Goldbloom and we want him to just be Goldbloom. Dude, he was in it way more than I thought. Oh, that's great. Pretty incredible how much they just kind of just do your thing. How did you like Gorn or Goron? Fantastic. Like a fucking rock guy voiced by the director.
Starting point is 00:16:42 Is he? Yeah. I saw the credits. I thought it was the guy that was the head werewolf. That's what it sounded like. I thought it was. And then I looked at the credits. I'm like, oh no, it's Taiki Watiti.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Yeah, because the way he's talking, you're hearing that New Zealand accent and you're like, am I hearing like, yeah, werewolves, are we hearing? I love how the MCU is like, we got a thing. We have the thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a funny rock guy. It was very good. They did it good with that.
Starting point is 00:17:13 Yeah, no, go see it. It's worth it. And I guess the only thing with it is just that, you know, it's the closest thing to like a major downside, but the formula is really felt and it's really predictable and you know it and you're experiencing it and you're aware that you're like, yep, you know, 10% like drama, maybe 20% action and the rest is all comedy. And you're like, you're in an action scene and you see the edit and you're like, there's a joke going to happen, right?
Starting point is 00:17:44 You don't go four minutes without a smirk, you know, or like a beat type of thing. But it's weird because you're hiring a director that literally only makes comedies or something that does have jokes per minute. It's like a search for the wilder people, which had Sam Neal and Alan Grant who also has a little cameo on this. So I was like, yeah, it's going to be a fucking full on comedy. Even if I haven't seen the trailer, I'm like, you don't hire a comedy director unless you expect a little bit of comedy.
Starting point is 00:18:13 I mean, there's exceptions to the rule, but like, I think for Thor, having the third one be way more funny that that template that you are correct in saying it's a little little overused now. If you attach it to something that gave you very few laughs, what was the only thing you laughed at a Thor? There's two jokes. It's another. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:34 And meow meow. Yeah. What's the cat dennings quotient on this movie? Zero. Oh man, this movie sucks. No, no, it's a good. Valkyrie makes up for this is basically a reboot of Thor in a way, which is why the director is saying what, which is why the director is saying that if they he did another one,
Starting point is 00:18:51 he wants to be Thor Ragnarok to not Thor for. Ah, interesting. But the the I don't know what to say. Besides, I didn't hate Thor as much as everyone else did. But like. Oh, you mean beforehand? No, no, no. I mean, no, no, I mean, Thor one and two.
Starting point is 00:19:09 I don't. Oh, I don't. I don't love those movies. I don't love them either. The second one is like one of the most forgettable Marvel movies ever, but it's not awful. Yeah, that's yeah. I guess I guess you can put it, you know, forgettable. Sure.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Like, but like, you know, it was fine when I watched it. But it was just like, you know, this this boosts that that line or that franchise up on its own rights into like, you know, the good, the good stuff. The problems of the Thor movies didn't really seem important in the grander scheme of things, whereas Captain America movies are like, oh, shit. Well, it's because Thor movies don't take place on earth. Exactly. Well, the first one does.
Starting point is 00:19:46 Well, yeah. And then the second one has an earth moment. They don't even meant like, they don't even mention the earth characters that he met. They don't mention Cad Dennings or or. The professor and a bear. They and Natalie Portman. They mentioned Natalie Portman for one line. They're like, she's not here again.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Yeah, effectively. Yeah, but remember there was like five movies where they're like, where's pepper pots and then everyone's like two cares and then she shows up again. So, you know, you never know. I care. I don't know. I like her. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:20 No, I mean, no, sorry. The characters in the movie don't care. Tony, she dumped you again, huh? Cause you're a fucking drunk loser, huh? Huh, Tony? And he's like, the conclusion of that. You got to watch. Man, Iron Man 3's ending is stupid as shit now.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Look, I look pepper. I blew up all my suits. Look, I did it. I just got a bunch of suits. Okay, now I tell the Infinity War. Yeah. Like, what's that bitch? You're telling me not to fight the Infinity War?
Starting point is 00:20:47 No, no. Like what? I got to fight it a lot, man. What I would like to see is that when they do begin this new age that, you know, I really hope that they decide to kind of like put the spotlight on a bunch of new characters. Yeah. I want losers. I want ass or formerly losers because they realized, I'm sure, that if we can do what
Starting point is 00:21:11 we did with Guardians to a ton of heroes, then we can grab like anybody and pull them up there. And you know, the director of Thor Ragnarok takes on the new warriors. Sure. Has to make Night Thrasher funny. Sure. You know, I think there's no reason why the world can't fall in love with She-Hulk. I think She-Hulk can.
Starting point is 00:21:33 I absolutely want a She-Hulk movie. Huge hit. I want an Ali McBeal style thing with a few action scenes. No, it would be a huge hit. I want She-Hulk to be directed by Kevin Smith, and I want She-Hulk, the movie, to be like his fucking idea for the Green Hornet movie where it's fucking 99 percent lawyering. Wait, so Civil Wars or Infinity Gauntlet's happen outside the courthouse. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:03 And she walks outside to do a scuffle, but the camera stays in the location, and then she comes back in. I would like She-Hulk as a Netflix show where it's actually just Ali McBeal, and I just want to snap it because the She-Hulk run that I think the Marvel Now She-Hulk run was like amazingly funny. It was all like court stuff by day, go to the clubs at night, get drunk, get sad, no guy wants to fuck you because they're all scared. But now with Netflix and television stuff firmly behind us, I think the best treatment
Starting point is 00:22:42 would be a film in the next generation. You want them to get their movie. Because the thing is, if there are characters that are currently Z-Listers that you want to see bumped up, you have to basically write off the ones that get pushed onto Hulu like the runaways. I read a review of the first episode of runaways, it's like it's not good. Of course not, right? And then they got, and what's the other one, Cloak and Dagger, right?
Starting point is 00:23:05 That's not out yet, but yeah. No, but I'm saying like so there's all these Z-Listers that we want to see cool versions of. Can I get a doppelganger spinoff movie? No, there's people in line before doppelganger. But I don't know, Sony wants to make a, there's a Venom movie, doppelganger, fucking shut up, and Riot and Scream are going to be in that movie. All I'm trying to say is characters that have a book with their name in a special font on
Starting point is 00:23:34 it, we can start paying attention to them a little bit more. Who's the biggest loser that you can think of that fits that profile? Wait, like in what sense? Well, I think everyone's going to get to love Cable in Deadpool 2. No, I want the biggest loser that you think could get a movie. That could get a movie. Adam X The Extreme. No, he could not get a movie.
Starting point is 00:23:56 But I don't believe that. That's stupid. Who is that? Unless they decided to go like nuts with it and like push it and make it a whole thing. The reinvention. The Guardian's... Moon Knight. Guardian Moon Knight.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Not even. No, he's not a loser. He's not a loser. Oh man. You just don't know that well, but he's totally falling. I want a big comic book loser, like Spawn. Yeah. Adam X The Extreme is a huge comic book loser.
Starting point is 00:24:15 If you've already had a movie once, you can't be categorized as a loser. Come on now. But anyway, that's... Dark Hawk is a loser. What about Squirrel Girl? Can she get a movie? No, she can get a cameo. What if they get the Fantastic Four rights back?
Starting point is 00:24:29 Can she get a movie? Squirrel Girl can get a... Not just a cameo, but a supporting role, like... Supporting role, yeah. Being like... Like a shield. A second. Or something.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Like being the Negasonic Warhead. Yeah, okay. The Teenage Negasonic Warhead of Deadpool. What's your deal? Oh, Squirrels, and then she gets the cool moment near the 80% mark of the movie. Yeah. Maybe we'll get some US agent. You know, on the next round.
Starting point is 00:24:55 That didn't hit me in the heart. But it hit me in one of the arteries. There you go. Yeah. US fucking agent. What a jobber. So I played a Spider-Man Japanese game on my channel, and I was like, man, speedball's in this.
Starting point is 00:25:12 No one cares about speedball. And like people correct... I don't even know who the fuck speedball is. As you know, you get things wrong. Everyone's like, speedball is one of the most important characters ever. And I was like, why? I'm like, because he started Civil War. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:27 I'm like, what? It was speedball? He accidentally killed a whole... Oh, the school? A whole... He had a whole school, yeah. Of kids? Or whatever.
Starting point is 00:25:38 I'm looking at a decade-long franchise of Longshot fighting... I love Longshot. Longshot fighting MoDoc and Mojo. Oh, and MoDoc. Oh, really? Well, that entire fucking core of these villains, right? They're very similar. I can see Longshot being a thing.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Dazzler. Dazzler, yeah. Oh, Dazzler sucks, man. No, Dazzler's cool. Jubilee's better than fucking Dazzler. No, Dazzler's a superstar. Oh, no. That's just Jim in the Hall of Grams but an X-man.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So why are you looking at me like that? Yeah, because that Jim in the Hall of Grams was so good, right? I didn't say it was good. Oh, man. Jim in the Hall of Grams is good. Yeah, no, there's people. There's people that need to be pulled up from the back of the card deck,
Starting point is 00:26:27 you know, of your Marvel card masterpiece collection. You know what I want? My amalgam card set. You know what I want? I want Marvel to do like a pitch meeting and they would need to broadcast it live so there's no cheating and somebody just brings in a stack of every Marvel card and somebody has to just throw it and whatever lands close to the middle gets a movie. Wolverine.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Oh, come on. Squirrel Girl teams up with Lara and X-23 at all new Wolverine. That's a team up in a movie. That's pretty solid. That they play off each other. That becomes a Fox joint but yeah. Because it's the Wolverine and the Squirrel. Sure.
Starting point is 00:27:03 That's a team. Oh, wow. Nightcrawler could get his own movie. Oh, he of course he could. X-men in general are good for spin-offs but like, but they're also not because it took Wolverine for to get it right. Gambit still has a movie in the works. Channing Tatum.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Sure. It's been on and off for like years. Oh man, I want Channing Tatum. I want Channing Tatum's adventures. Just, you know. He had his own fawn on his Unlimited series. He did. He's eligible.
Starting point is 00:27:28 He did. He did. I just want Channing Tatum to just the worst Louisiana accent. Just the absolute worst. Watch it be he's actually from Louisiana. Yeah. I don't know. But yeah, like I'm but like it's easy to grab like spin-off characters that
Starting point is 00:27:41 we're already in things but I'm really trying to I'm trying to pull like I'm trying to see if there's like there's one there's one there that's there that you're going to be like oh fuck that hasn't been mentioned anywhere yet. You know what I mean? That it's just like. Often chose of a war I'd say Black Panther. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:56 Yeah. But then there he is. There he is. He's gonna say they got it. Doctor Strange is not. You know what you have to go into like like the annihilation wave. You have to go into like Nihilus and like all the space stuff a little bit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Right. You can you can go there or you can go the the hell route with Mephisto and. The satanic like Ghost Rider world without Ghost Rider. And and and well what's your name and. Lilith. Illiana you know Colossus' sister. Oh yeah. She's super important.
Starting point is 00:28:33 She's incredibly magic. Huge big deal. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. She's with her sword and shit. Right. Get into some of that.
Starting point is 00:28:40 She's cool. There's there's there's there's different dimensions that Marvel can explore. Excalibur will never be made. The British X-Men team. Excalibur. Yeah. That's or ecstatics. It was another one.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Yeah. X-Force. There's so much. Anyway. X-Force is being made. And and why not just throw Namor in. Namor Namor is that guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:04 Namor is a guy. Namor is very important. He's pretty big. He's up there. And Aquaman is going to get his own movie. And then you just get Namor to come here and like do his own take and just shit all over. Make fun of Aquaman but not really. Namor.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Yeah. That's yeah that's that's the big one. That's a that's been completely ignored. Yeah. I wonder if he falls under the fantastic fourth thing like Doom does. He ties in really tightly because of Susan. He's totally owned by a completely different movie company than all the others by the way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:32 Yeah. No he like I remember reading up like I was looking at this fucking chart of like who the fuck owns what. Namor Namor is he was sold to a different movie company than all of these other. I think I heard that back at the time. Yeah. Huh. And then I believe he is still owned by that movie.
Starting point is 00:29:47 No because Marvel always had a clause where it's like if you don't make a movie within a certain amount of time you lose the rights. That's right. That's how they got back the punishment. Oh man can we get booster gold. No wait that's not Marvel. Shit. No that's not Marvel with that question.
Starting point is 00:30:00 I don't know that's DC. You don't know. Stop that question still relevant. Can we stop dropping chat based suggestions of DC characters. Don't worry. Don't worry. I would have just as bad suggestions if I wasn't looking at it. The the like spawn but no the the spawn movie is going to get made.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Namor would be cool also because he's a complete asshole and that plays excellent. Like I actually want a guy that's just like I'm not. I'm not cool. I'm not down with friendship. Yeah. And I got to take piss. I got to be. Oh jeez.
Starting point is 00:30:35 Anyway. Yeah. And I don't know if like what else. So you saw you saw Thor. Stranger things. I haven't I haven't started it yet. Oh I watched it until its entirety. All I say is that it's not as tightly scripted.
Starting point is 00:30:50 It's not as intriguing as the first season. That's unfortunate. Regardless it's almost if not a bit more entertaining from episode to episode where there's constantly shit happening. There's constantly like a fun action scene. There's always a character doing something that you're that you're into. There's one story thread that I was like man I could do without this. It's not really going anywhere particularly interesting.
Starting point is 00:31:17 But if you've seen all the fan art Steve Steve art is his arc is just so entertaining and so amazing. Like that fucking anime drawing someone did of him on Twitter all these various expressions. I'm like there's something. Why do I why are all my synaptic responses firing off at how awesome this looks. Steve was yeah the go to character. Now my only thing is is like do you for all those moments of downtime that you're feeling. Does it that I'm not not all those moments.
Starting point is 00:31:46 There's one little story thread that I was never into everything else. I was like yeah. Does it does it feel like it still would have been better if they went with a whole new cast whole new story. I think enough stuff happened in this that I could justify this season. I was still happy with I always wanted it to be an anthology because I hate. I hate the what I effectively look at as the Jersey Shore returning for season two. Type of thing where it's like the only reason why this works is because of the concept.
Starting point is 00:32:18 The characters played out an extremely important part of that. But the concept is bigger than the actors and the characters involved here. And that's what should travel forward with different people in different stories. And then them and then like in the Jersey Shore bit of them going no we're famous. We have to be there. And it's like no not that I give a shit. But I mean in this case with Stranger Things I really I have to watch it to obviously solidify that.
Starting point is 00:32:45 But like a lot of the time I'm like we like this because of what is happening and the themes and how it plays it. Not because of who's because it's not a mystery really. It's more of like a sci-fi adventure thing. It's just it's called Stranger Things too. Yeah. So the problem is is that they set up for a third season of the same stuff. And I'm like I don't know if there's enough gas in that tank left for me to.
Starting point is 00:33:10 And they said like by the time we get this done the kids are going to be fucking old because voices are cracking the fuck up now. And they said that when the third season does happen it'll most likely be a time skip like somebody wants to have a Harry Potter. That's Netflix. The problem is that after a third season you can't then just jump to like another group I feel they'll either stop or they'll do a fourth episode. That aging thing where you have a kid.
Starting point is 00:33:40 Fuck kids stop aging. I had I had like the weirdest thing where like a bunch of this week I was just like whatever it was like watching hotel room TV. You know and the there's a show on Nickelodeon called the Goldbergs I think it's this like sitcom that's not sitcom but it's like it's almost like a wonder years type modern thing of just goofy family. But like I'm watching this thing of this this little kid with glasses like like nerdy kid whatever has it has his like Kevin style adventures and misadventures.
Starting point is 00:34:17 And these are all like reruns of whatever. And I didn't know because I'd never heard the show up until this point but I'm watching it. And then it cuts to like a commercial for like the latest episode. And like the kid is basically like 22. Wow. And it's like it's just the weirdest things like apparently it's just been around for this long or whatever the fuck. But like like I'm seeing imagine if you're seeing like like Arthur.
Starting point is 00:34:41 You know or Urkel Urkel season one Urkel to like to step on. It was that moment from a shirt from like the show being on to the commercial. I was like what the fuck. I think I described this before Dragon Ball Z like season one was airing on YTV. And I go and like I go to school that day. And someone brings me a VHS from Japan which is Super Saiyan Vegeta and Goku fighting Metal Cooler. Like I can fucking chat my parents. No you're not ready.
Starting point is 00:35:13 Because arms are getting ripped off in that movie. There's some fucking you know it's rough. No you're super. Yeah I know that sounds like a thing. But um. Stranger things too. I like overall like I really enjoyed it. But it did lose a little bit of the mystery and the intrigue from the first season.
Starting point is 00:35:31 They go into a lot. Eleven doesn't really do anything for a long time. She goes on her own like side quest. But it's still really interesting and well done. And she kind of gets reinserted into the main story thread. But it was a little awkward. But like overall still massively entertaining like. But it does lose a little newness.
Starting point is 00:35:51 It does lose the newness and the mystique of the first season where you're like what's going on. But also like the first season felt like they were doing a thing which is the 80s movies thing. Still doing it. And is it. Okay so it's not fully going into its own direction. No actually they're going on it even harder. They show lots of movie marquis in the background to let you know what year it is. Commercials for the.
Starting point is 00:36:18 I actually did mark out a bunch. Nineteen nine and nine. I did mark out because when people are flipping to the TV there's always commercials for terminator one. Yeah. And while that's really hamfisted I was like oh fuck imagine how exciting it was to like be cognitive at that age. After after Bojack's did all those time joke bits it's all ruined. Every reference to a thing in the background is ruined forever.
Starting point is 00:36:46 I guess. But like when it's the terminator I'm like and terminator one too it's like special. It's like very it's very. Terminator one's just a fucking slasher flick. Terminator one is a film noir slasher. Yeah so it's just like little kids getting excited for like the murder movie. Plus plus people I won't say which game but the kids do mark out to playing a certain game in the
Starting point is 00:37:10 arcades. Oh man. And I was like and an entire episode I believe is called that or something like the name of the arcade machine. When you go see it the movie someone the kid from Stranger Things fucking Mike isn't it as like you know one of the not the main guy but whatever he's like yeah I didn't want to fight this fucking clown I want to go in the arcade and play Street Fighter. And I'm like man that's fucked up like the timelines all messed up and it's like no
Starting point is 00:37:42 they knew their shit he's playing Street Fighter one. Oh no. And I'm like that's amazing. I'd rather go fight that fucking clown. Game sucked. Yeah but there has to have been a bit of fervor around it. I couldn't see what cabinet he was playing. Hit the button.
Starting point is 00:37:59 The dumb treasure plays with a six button. Okay they hit the buttons thing that was limited release that was not popularly out there. But it was the first release. It was but it was super there's very few of those ever made. Well yeah because they all got destroyed. So nobody that was saying I want to go play Street Fighter ever got a chance on one of those. I feel like even though they didn't show what he was playing on because there was like the camera was inside the screen of the cabinet looking at him.
Starting point is 00:38:22 So you couldn't see what he was doing but it felt like a six the six button variation so that's special. But like there's certain things like if it's lost on me I don't care and I'm like that's a dumb reference nobody cares. But if it's the Terminator Street Fighter I'm like yeah that's the thing. You're the problem you're like just no you don't get it. You're like oh if it was the thing that you love most you'd still do it. That was already in the in the fucking first episode.
Starting point is 00:38:48 There's a fucking uh a movie marquee of John Carpenter's The Thing on the fact and fucking background like the first there you go but I'll do that too. Matt don't you see you're the problem because you're like oh they went so hard on the 80s things and I hated all the ones that I didn't get. But the ones that I got those ones are the best. But you live your life by that type of stuff. That's the thing I hate but I love the thing I love because then it just becomes well I guess we have to put so many in so that everyone gets what they want exactly.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Everyone gets a lick of the 80s ring. But slowly the bell curve moves forward because the people with the older references die. Man if Stranger Things 3 happens in 95 I'm just gonna be like oh man like let's get all of those ridiculous inside Cuphead animation references to the 40s and you're like that's for a crowd of people that are gone. They are not here anymore. Eight year olds. Yeah um anyway uh anything else.
Starting point is 00:39:54 No it's for animation. Um I talked about a bit last last last podcast that we were all together but um if you're interested in the mind of a serial killer if you like good drama like please please watch Mind Hunters on Netflix. I finished it. It was amazing. I don't think you're a hero Pat when I talked about it maybe. But it's like David Fincher you know director of Seven and it's just about when the FBI start
Starting point is 00:40:20 going we should probably interview serial killers that are arrested and find out why they do this shit so we can stop it. Yeah probably. So it was just when a lot of FBI like bureaucrats were like no that's a fucking waste of taxpayers time we arrested them that's good it's fine. Are you serious? Leave it. Who could be that stupid?
Starting point is 00:40:37 In the 70s. When uh two investigators that kind of team up and they're like let's create profiling. Yeah. And um it's really really interesting incredibly well acted um and all it really is is is just building their their theories. There's not really a story thread per se other than the main character like goes into darker and darker places and gets obsessed with his work. So it's a bunch of nerds doing nerd stuff but it's cool.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Yeah. Yeah okay. And it's just a bunch of interviews and each one gets more and more disturbing they do solve cases along the way but uh the last episode was like very open it's it's gonna have a second season for sure but they inter-splice this show with the beginnings of another famous serial killer that's doing stuff completely independently no one knows what he's doing and who he is or whatever yet but if you look at him and if you know anything about the history of serial killers and the time frame you're like huh I wonder if that's that guy or that guy
Starting point is 00:41:38 you're like oh are they gonna bring like this dude into it and they leave it very open and where no one even knows what this dude is they just always show like him preparing to become the serial killer he will be and I was like that's really interesting and I was like I hope they really like fight that guy in the second season or whatever but um I I really really recommend it because I really like that type of stuff like the Hannibal will like way less artsy fartsy than Hannibal but um sounds like sounds like Hannibal and um um what should I call it the uh the other one uh zodiac no cop cop true detective yeah yeah it's it's more akin to true it sounds like those things open the door for like it's true detective these shows to get green light but in an FBI like
Starting point is 00:42:27 so they're more like beholden by rules and regulations and shit there's a lot of bureaucratic mumbo jumbo they're going on where you can't do this you can't say that don't redact that word holy shit and it's like the tiniest thing tiniest detail of the of the process they have to go through to like get funding to get like the okay to do this type of shit is the interesting bits of the show like there's lots of interesting bits but yeah that's that's the last thing I kind of watched anyone play any games yeah what games did you play I played marvel why because because a bunch of leaks happened that got excited well two things a bunch of leaks happened and two snacks was over at my house I don't want to complain if those leaks turn out to be fake and I was like super pissed off
Starting point is 00:43:12 no hey guess what you won't hear me complaining Maxwell because it's his fault he did the leaks he did not leaks that he did a video literally reddit did it was off of our kappa and then read it yeah you can wind it is perfect you couldn't control yourself whatever it's a good game it is it's a shit game yeah but it's a good game it is uh also hung out with two snacks for a bit which was weird because two snacks is here he just showed up yeah and he's here and you know what else is weird about two snacks he's got perfect english he's extremely tall fit and handsome yep it's not what I expected okay I guess he's a big hot guy hopefully I'll find from Brazil with great english and a cool accent and it's weird I feel like a gremlin next to that
Starting point is 00:43:59 man yeah I took him out for breakfast and the first thing I asked him is what do you think a Montreal and he goes uh oh yeah there's lots of construction yeah he did like that's the first thing he did the same thing with me he's like everything is broken it's under construction it's like okay I love that's that's the first thing he's been to Vancouver he's been to Toronto and he's like why why is the city not finished yeah I'm like I don't know because they leave it till the winter and then it snows on it and they have to do it over yeah oh yeah I played marvel hey marvel's good monster hunter's a great character like makes me really jerked off last podcast about her I know she's really great she's really cool and I really want she's really
Starting point is 00:44:46 strong I want those is she yeah yeah she's quite good she's yeah that the the the the demon power up demon mode is yeah because well even like like I was getting a lot of fun out of just doing her uh I forget but it's the great sword swing that just eats everything yeah and just like yeah I took a bunch of damage ah yeah oh I want to play more marvel like I want to actually play a fighting game for once in a long time it's really hard to like stop thinking about it once you're once you're in the middle of the lake when you're in the in the trenches and you're like trying to figure out your tag systems and because it's it's very unlike every other tag game before it you when you're playing properly at least are tagging non-stop you're you're not controlling one character
Starting point is 00:45:36 playing neutral and then switching to another you're actively controlling two characters pretty much simultaneously and like a couple seconds go by you try because because the idea of like tagging makes everything you do safe so why would you not just constantly do it and then you of course you risk getting happy birthday but um it's and it because of that because of that constant controlling two people at the same time thing it's just fun and new and you don't like no no other game has really delivered that so it's I'm like constantly thinking about I wonder if I could try this I wonder if I can try that I have so far to go like I turned off the auto combo and all of a sudden it's like oh oh okay I'm I'm struggling to get like bread and butters
Starting point is 00:46:17 into fucking launchers like go check out some videos for the people you like you know I know I need the basics I need how to do jab jab basic yeah yeah uh I mean I need basic shit for babies I mean the answer is training mode but but the real answer is like yeah you gotta jump on YouTube and check out some resources and honestly just watching people play is as any other just like any other game unless you're you're planning to be an innovator which I doubt you are not me go no I'm a copier go watch some videos I'll steal somebody else's thing yeah that's a good way to do it everyone who ever became great did so by stealing everything around them shoulders of giants yep steal that giant's shoulders steal right on now you've got giant shoulders steal that
Starting point is 00:47:06 shit I also played a bunch of destiny too which came out on pc a little while ago boy that game is like a like you know how like games get a pc port you're like oh it's better like no this is this is a big deal the game is substantial like weapon balance is different on pc even with a controller because the higher frame rate is such a big deal for the the aiming model that they have um it's a hell of a lot better than destiny one before you jump off though I wanted to say how about that reality stone reality stone do you mean the real reality stone the real one the real one you catch that that's yeah we yeah we caught it that's some crazy shit oh boy in fact dare I say that shit's a little bit too crazy because I feel which was it again the reality stone
Starting point is 00:47:52 in the in the um marvel tournament battle for the stones uh marvel vs capcom thing oh my god the last one we talked like I i'm gonna fuck up your team uh no that's the mind stone that's mine right okay so the the latest one was revealed as reality and that is I get to set three of your buttons yes and to me that's going too far because that's because it's like world physical well it changes so the whole thing is the whole what it does is it changes the feeling of this from being like it's a goofy but still real tournament into this is a complete farce yeah yeah and and sort of the reason why is because every other consequence even the the I pick your team for you you can plan for you can still play the video game yeah at the end of the day
Starting point is 00:48:37 you can play it it's going to be hard and ridiculous but oh I've got obstacles but are not like no like you know what I mean like you're driving a car and your gas pedal is there and your brake is there and you have a steering wheel the moment you're like nah dude the gas pedals back here now you know like you're like okay well that's not a race anymore yeah you know let me choose a shitty car right do weird things to my car if you must but at least let me drive my my favorite suggestion which I believe is actually impossible was to map start to like jab sure and just cause instant disqualifications or put tag on options so that you have to reach around oh that's great do that yeah so you reach around the stick to the for the most basic important function like no
Starting point is 00:49:21 you know oh well I have a quick question for marvel uh for the for your button layout what where do you have tag and uh tag is hard punch and stone is hard kick okay thanks um that's what I do but yeah I was having trouble having the those reverse all good out of shot but uh no I feel like they uh should keep these rules or should have kept these rules to like playing with the pools playing with the bracket playing with the tournament playing with the tournament structure itself and like that's where the shenanigans come in I feel that like getting into gameplay character picks all right you know that's that's like the next level that's but that's the hard limit yeah buttons is way too goofy I I would actually like
Starting point is 00:50:07 I agree with you to a degree even though I love the way I love how stupid the gimmick is but I think that it should have all been one or the other so I think that if if they wanted to do stuff like that fucks the physicality of the go all in that it they all needed to be physical impediments such as yeah the reality stone is at some point in your match someone's gonna throw a glass of cold water in your face well that's what me and what they were saying last time we were like okay now we're doing farcical like our own bullshit like you web someone up with duct tape yeah yeah yeah on their seat and like that's that's where your tournament becomes a joke but like the the the like the closest thing to a version of what like the reality
Starting point is 00:50:49 stone that I can imagine that I'd be like again that's a hard limit is like you uh your stick is replaced with a controller or vice versa that's where you're like that's if you don't know if you're not good enough on both then that's a challenge or whatever oh here's one for the space stone you have to sit like eight feet back from the setup that's you're in a box now there's a tiny window in your box to look at everyone's ideas are better than the power stone sometimes your your your fucking controller just gets unplugged and then re-plugged in but it's not a dq no no what would be no somebody punches you uh punch you in the shoulder yeah and the shoulder gives you a good charlie horse right in the middle of the match yeah yeah uh no so that's what it is
Starting point is 00:51:38 the button the button mapping is like it's too much it's too much it's too much um I want to see the I want to see I'm so desperate so while I admit that it is stupid I am now like desperate to see the grand finals for that fucking tournament because they're going to be 3v3 with those like if if the person gets a power stone mind stone and reality stone fuck yeah and that's someone gets a stone are they exempt from trying at the next tournament to get another yeah you can't you like right now in the preliminaries phases but you can't have two stones but in the final in we'll be able to get other yes okay in the in the in the final bracket you can take the stones of people if you beat someone that has a stone yeah okay that's that's fair so moving forward
Starting point is 00:52:23 no one dies and and is holding on to a stone that they haven't used type of thing you know like it'll always be used yeah um and and now and and you saying that you want to you got to see that is like that's exactly the point yeah right so they know that this is happening during the capcom part and people are going to be watching should find her but people are going to be watching marvel to see this goofy shit I think there's a place spectacle I think there's a place in the it's the primary place for real competition but I wish like I would love for goofy officially sanctioned but goofy idiot tournaments to also go along alongside them the problem is who's going to put money into that long term money you know what I mean cool people this is pushing a new
Starting point is 00:53:06 product that they just released at the end of the day so any other games yeah uh destiny's great well it's not great it's good it's it's especially good when you're playing it with people that you know uh played a little bit or watched uh watched page play sonic forces on stream which is did you play sonic forces I played 30 minutes of it and I uninstalled it oh so you bought on pc I know I bought on ps4 dude it's it's the worst so why is it why is it so divisive in terms of why is divisive in the sense I saw the Liam saying that it was really disappointing but it was great for old sonic fans and speedrunners and shit I couldn't walk it was rolling my what I what I want to know is yeah because I think I asked you this last time but it's like why is there a pushback
Starting point is 00:53:57 in terms of uh some people at least on my twitter yeah saying like that it's not that bad because sonic fans because 3d 3d sonic because 3d sonic fans but if you are tired of you remember how unleashed was it's just unleashed where it's just the auto watch qtes press buttons in the air it hasn't really changed and that's kind like when you have other platformers like mario odyssey or you know the timing was so unfortunate time or stuff that's actually kind of pushing things and making a little bit open it's fucking archaic where it's still doing the 360 like hey look you're gonna do a cool jump press xpaa and do a grind or whatever uh the main kind of things I see is that the level design is actually much more poorer than sonic generations and stuff like when
Starting point is 00:54:50 you actually get a good sonic generations was considered good 3d right yes it was yeah I mean I had my own problems with it but those are specific I can't stand it but I I would put it at the top of the ones I can't stand yeah but it seems like the main thing is that when a level just starts to get going the levels are actually like they're crazy short they've ever been like there are sub two minutes some of them they're they're they're so short the the music doesn't even have time to catch up to certain things so there's that stuff and there's other stuff like a lot of people I saw were saying that 2d sonic is actually useless oh yeah there's no real point to 2d sonic being in there so probably probably the most baffling thing and the most disappointing thing to me
Starting point is 00:55:32 was the story which is kind of a stupid thing but they they built it up like oh man it's old sonic you're oc it's like your oc is like a a stupid footnote nameless nobody cares he's called the rookie um well the way the that sounds good no but like the way the story is told is both hyper serious and like incredibly exciting and then the next sentence coming out of someone's mouth will just invalidate everything that they said so like um fucking sonic one of the first things that happened you gotta go rescue sonic new guys gotta go rescue sonic he's been on the death egg being tortured daily by egg man for six months okay okay so then you go okay no wait let me back up the first thing is I can't believe sonic's
Starting point is 00:56:23 fucking dead we all saw sonic get fucking murdered by infinite he's dead then you you can start and a cut scene starts where knuckles goes sonic's alive you gotta rescue him he's been been tortured for six months by egg man then you go get sonic in in one of the shortest levels in the whole game which is like 90 seconds and sonic's just chilling in his thing he's like boy I sure am sick of being tortured come on and let me out and he's completely normal and fine there's tonal like contrasting story elements it's the weirdest fucking thing I didn't get to that type of stuff really that much but like I read that in a lot of it happens over and over and over and it's it's so fucking weird the fact that mania was only a few months ago also makes this look way worse oh
Starting point is 00:57:11 yeah mania's a triumph or this is a well you have to just yeah and in that in that bionic gar commando way I suppose yeah the idea is to just separate the two and and say this is this and that is that here's the problem you can't separate the two because sonic forces is a sequel to sonic mania really the final the like super emerald ending of sonic mania is that you follow the phantom ruby into a different dimension and the phantom ruby is what gives infinite all this powers wow I didn't know there was a connection that yeah that's why that's why that's why sonic from 2d is there at all but also he doesn't speak or do anything and he just hangs out with tails and tails like boy we gotta stop it it's like it's fucking good as a shit see so no you can't
Starting point is 00:57:59 separate them it's a direct sequel huh well uh I mean I've been playing sonic mania and that thing's perfect yeah yeah it sure is isn't it it's astonishing that game actually even gets better the more you play it although one thing that is uh the one the one thing that is different about it is is uh they've like some of it is more challenging than 2d sonic is oh absolutely ever without doubt it has to be yeah it totally has to be they gave you the new power that is the the the the spin drop yeah which I it took me the whole game to actually figure out yeah um because I was doing it wrong the whole time yeah I think you think it's jump and hold and press down and and spin yeah no it's not just double tap and hold um but like because of that sonic's way
Starting point is 00:58:43 more mobile and powerful so that it ramps it up to accommodate but the levels are also like three four five times bigger than the levels are the levels are all bigger which is like I which I always wanted which is like don't end this so soon I want to keep running they're enormous but you don't like and but there's been like the moments where you you're doing like these massive stretches of speed like are interrupted very quickly where it's like okay no now now back to gameplay like you're not just going to enjoy this cutscene of rolling yeah now do this like relatively difficult platforming at high speeds and then there's yeah and then there's like three or four different pathways here there's like that one boss in in um um uh uh what the second area uh
Starting point is 00:59:21 in casino polis or the second the first uh unique area it's the anyway you're the synopsis when you're on the road and the missiles are coming yeah that's tough and it's so all and I'm like what is weird about this that is giving me a problem and it's because the jump physics completely change for that scene because you're running and you can't just jump over a missile that's coming at you you just don't have the momentum yeah it has it has it has like what I would call it but all the physicists in that game are right like they're correct but in a lot of sonic areas you don't actually spend a lot of time in the run state jump physics it's not you you only you only feel that when you're doing stuff like uh uh blowing through like green hill zone
Starting point is 01:00:05 and you're using like the ring boxes to catapult yourself right right right yeah um but they made a boss fight around that movement and it's it's tough like like that thing was such a weird moment because I was like okay so a basic obstacle is coming at me very slowly and I'm can't I'm unable to just jump over it I'm like okay so then you have to wait till there's grooves in the road to give you yeah you know a little bit of a jump but then those grooves are randomly kind of coming and there's just little things like that you're like uh this is not just a free ride no you know um so it's a video game you know it's a free ride sonic forces sure that's a free ride yeah except in the platforming areas where you did you have where you just have death dude and you have nothing to do
Starting point is 01:00:51 with your skill you have the slowest acceleration in that game right up until you're you have the acceleration like your character goes it's the worst you know how um mario games now basically they have two audiences to cater to the people that have been playing them forever for their entire lives and then you play them so you always have the easy levels and then eventually there's the really challenging ones at the end yeah it feels like you know sonic mania was made just for the fans that were always there well what what it actually does is that there is uh mania or forces he's talking mania okay mania does have this awesome thing that was kind of in the old games but it's like there is that there is an in-game difficulty selector yeah and it's did you fall
Starting point is 01:01:34 down the stage okay the bottom of the stage is easier than the top of the stage oh really yeah interesting i didn't know that okay yeah and there's also lives but there's a save so your lives don't matter you know technically yeah anyway um uh speaking more platformers i just want to quickly uh mario odyssey probably maybe my game of the year i'm not sure yet uh played a shitload of it just a lot of feels a lot of like oh my god that was so fun oh my god okay yeah like there's two specific sections you've been in the game maybe um you know but there's two specific sections where i'm like oh my god i am so happy okay type things and and usually mario games have kind of like like galaxy not so much galaxy was this general like slope of like yeah but like
Starting point is 01:02:21 the mario odyssey is weird where it's like it's just kind of generalized fun and then there's these two spikes okay that i'm just like oh my god this or and there's like sub spikes or whatever finding those fucking power moons is awesome dude there's so many there's so many um uh so that that's been really fun i i i played a lot of that on the um 2017 what are we playing mario and sonic mario and sonic uh but i also played a bunch of ass creed origins as well i'm sure i did uh really really surprised with how much i'm just like right now i'm kind of like my my knee shaking because i i got to get that mission done i got to get home soon type thing um where i really like baek the is is is probably one of the better so the best thing about baek is the or baek rather
Starting point is 01:03:10 is that he's not an etio and he's not an edward he is a very very different character that is awesome and he's not a connor well i want to hear that he's not an anybody he is he's he's a he's his own guy he is like egyptian like hank hill assassin like he's a cool dad hank hill's not that cool the dad baek baek is a cool dad who loves his wife okay okay yeah right like his wife holy shit his wife is so gonna be the dlc character i i got to her not too long ago and i was like oh my god this character is so awesome but just just in general like because i skipped out on unity and syndicate and because of the small changes to make this there are big changes in this game well there are small in theory but they're they're lasting effects like the the ability to like
Starting point is 01:04:02 just level your character the ability that that quest is very western rpg where like you can do this quest whenever you want it's witchery is shit man but you have to be level 20 to do it i'm like level 14 i attempted to do the anubis like timed quest which willy i think you've been gone when they announced it but it's like for a certain period of time like a week they'll be like fight anubis it's a giant dumb boss fight i saw the cuts you did the trailer okay but this is a giant dumb boss fight that will occur on your map go to it you should be level 40 which is the cap which is the cap i just started playing the game i'm on level 13 and i you know like you know what i think i know oh god dude can't do it the is there is there an explanation for why he's an
Starting point is 01:04:57 animus it's an animus glitch okay and it has manifested in the form of the god anubis if you beat anubis you get the anubis armor set yeah which is not available in the store yeah okay speaking of the store yeah i'm like fuck this store and then i'm in an encampment where i'm like i really really really could use like a poison dart right about now i'm too i need the ability points i don't got them so i go in i buy the i buy the the base amount of helix points to to buy those two ability points to get it and i completed the mission really really easily there are so many ability points in that game they got you around there is but i wasn't because i was in the middle of a stealth encampment i wanted to shake my head someone was in your way sorry loot box master
Starting point is 01:05:56 see those are cosmetics yeah someone was in your way you also bought cosmetics you bought the the money not nearly as much as you yeah well yeah but i'm oh sorry and and and i'm a sick well well you can get a hot you can get a mummy's alive costume which is like you literally got a red burning eye and you can fuck up cut scenes by making out you're with your wife it's a it's a like a cosmetic bonus type of thing it's it's it's cosmetic i don't think it has any stat changes or whatever but yeah the costumes are all purely yeah uh regardless i'm really really enjoying the game uh i have i have seen zero bugs not to say that they're not bugs in there but i have had the least like bug free assassin's creed experience in my life i'm playing it on
Starting point is 01:06:40 the pc and it's a fantastic pc port aside from some cpu optimization but also i have seen one bug ever and it was my favorite bug of all time really it's the red dead bug where the fucking feet of the oxen gets stuck underneath the world oh wait i saw that but it was a actually never mind it was a hippopotamus that was dead but floating above the ground that was it no but the you know the famous red dead bug where the it would cause the horse drawn carriages to fly in a fucking space yeah because the the horse's feet would spawn underneath the geometry yeah i saw that happen once with a with an ox drawn cart and i was like that's my favorite bug in video it's my favorite one it's good uh and it didn't fly off it just kind of reset itself normally and that was like oh but um yeah
Starting point is 01:07:22 that's that's the only thing i saw a hippopotamus kind of floating above the ground a little bit but uh yeah i'm really really enjoying the game like i'm like i going forward it's like i don't want to play a new assassin's creed next year no i want them to take the time and make another one of these because this is it this is also made in case not your if you weren't aware willy this is made by the core black flag team yep that is it yeah but i've been working on this since black flag well i thought they were working on skull and bones i think that's someone else okay i i've just read an interview is that it's like yeah it's the core team that made black flag i there's a lot there's a lot of people so there's thousands it could it could literally be both of
Starting point is 01:08:07 these probably my my like most this core team and then the rest i remember i'm pretty sure because i remember thinking when i was crossing the desert going like their last game was nothing but water and this game is nothing but land land and there's a good amount of water yeah and there's there's a big part of water up at the top of the map that's just so you can do boat missions nice okay i didn't go there yet because i played about like seven hours of it i'm like yeah yeah i want to want to play more and the last kind of thing for games at least um is that uh i was unreasonably excited for doom on the switch yeah what up i don't know i bought a physical copy and i was just like yeah let's just let me boot it up and after the mandatory uh seven gig
Starting point is 01:08:50 patch totally destroying the the reason why you bought a physical copy in the first not totally yeah but it saved me space but whatever i got a i got a micro sd card that like i got a 200 gig thing so that that's a lot of stuff but like i pop that in and man that doesn't look as good as every other version and man it doesn't perform as well but it's still doom 2016 and it's still fast it's still responsive and i tore through the first two levels and i was like yeah i will boot this up whenever i am i want a quick session on the plane but like if you only own a switch or you really really like how can i like get it but like otherwise it's nice that arcade mode is just there but i mean it's there and i didn't know how in depth arcade mode really was where it takes
Starting point is 01:09:41 out all cutscenes no no it's it's it's just levels oh yeah and i was like whoa i didn't know that because i never booted up i was like eventually when i heard that the switch is going to get a pour is going to get arcade mode and i was like oh i'll go through arcade mode there feels like it would be really not fun on joy cons uh when handheld mode i was totally after like 10 minutes i was like yeah no i'm doing it but a lot of reviews i read it's just like if you're going to play a dock like yeah just get out the pro controller it's it's better that way yeah any game that's asking that much of you input wise i feel like you just grab the control the main deal with that is that uh the base game on the base difficulties actually is kind of marvelous in terms of its
Starting point is 01:10:21 performance amazing but uh the higher difficulties add more enemies yeah and uh digital foundry showed some videos off of like what does the what do levels look like when you have the max amount of enemies on and it's it's poor yeah it's like sub 20 in a lot of places it's still though you're looking at it and it's still like wow what a technical fucking achievement i think it was a another developer that ported it to the switch i think it's called uh panic button i'm like they must have been slamming the panic button the entire time like how are we doing this how are we doing this fucking answer is an incredibly aggressive uh adaptive resolution yeah yeah which kicks the game down to like 480p something like that at its lowest level yeah but i mean like the the main
Starting point is 01:11:07 thing to it is that it's still fast and like it was for me up until i didn't play on the highest difficulty but for me it was like a rock solid 30 and i really honestly didn't it didn't feel bad at all like it felt fine because 30 locked is always fine yeah it's fine at at at the most as long as long as you have good frame pacing it's fine yeah i appreciate the brands becoming self aware and nintendo bandai and doom all talking to each other having a sleepover they're all a thing that's a weird man um this this age of this age of twitter brands being like affable is is happening well we're a twitter brand and we're very affable but but our twitter itself is just a robot yeah that's the brand yeah robot it's a robot if we if we started answering from it and and be that would
Starting point is 01:11:58 fuck people up it would be really weird okay so we're just personal brands then yeah yeah well did you ever watch any american horror story no uh yeah first season and part of the second season so when i went to florida for my anniversary the we went we we got tickets to a venue that was like you know what american horror story every section of this venue will be can you hold that thought sure while we take a quick word from our sponsors american horror story that'd be nuts that would be nuts uh all right you got one here it's not but after you watch something scary and you want to hide under the covers what are the covers of what type of bed you would like to hide under will a casper mattress that's a reach hey um anyway uh you literally
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Starting point is 01:13:34 throughout the night you get it for a hundred nights risk-free sleep on it try it out see if you like it hundred nights we keep talking about it but that's an excessively obnoxiously long that's just under one-third of a year it is an obnoxiously long time to try out a mattress and see if you like it so by all means go ahead and try and see if that works for you works for me helps my back out i care about that so i have an update you have no option but to say that because that is your mattress and you stuck with it i will i will announce here that once i move i am going full in on casper mattress absolutely i'm seeing an apartment or two this weekend and we're i'm like i want the casper mattress now because Liam also got i think either the mattress or
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Starting point is 01:15:02 um the podcast is also sponsored by uh let me get this open and up here our friends at loot crate and uh this month is november it is november whole month long and as you know november is uh as we know well no i i was i was gonna i was gonna go a certain direction about i'll i'll swerve on that and simply say that the theme is unite 2.0 unite man so unite includes the forces of all kinds of united groups including what what's a united group a justice league that's a pretty united group they like each other hey hey when you say let's unite up and form like voltron right that's a pretty united group hey you know who else is united over watch they like each other they have to split up and then they reunited that's like the whole hidden story of the
Starting point is 01:16:04 first cutscene and then when you put all your all your your your bows and guns and swords and and whatnot together make a dumb weapon make a diner you're uniting power rangers your power rangers you're unstoppable you can't stop that yeah why would you everything would always die to that weapon it's it's the crazy it's like you know how they killed queen barrel at the end with the power friendship it's doing that in every episode friend friendship blasts it's unstoppable it's very strong so if you want to get in on unite 2.0 that's a a box of all goodies from those series straight to your door this november you want to head on over to lootcrate.com slash friendcasts use the promo code friendcast save three bucks off your new subscription um and subscribers also get a free
Starting point is 01:16:48 download of the first full season of batman the telltale series and the dlc that's on steam right now the whole season yeah that's crazy um 19th at 9 p.m. pacific is the cutoff point and of course someone's gonna get in on that mega crate uh for the unite 2.0 mega crate tool i wonder if you open it up and like that giant crazy stupid sword bow guns chuck weapon just like that thing is the best and this unstoppable and like that'd be the ultimate it's basically a bow with a bunch of guns and swords laid on top of it yeah yeah yeah strong that'd be great uh so yeah that's lootcrate.com slash friendcast with the promo code friendcast thanks guys thanks look great thank you you were saying american horror story yes you were i went to a venue in in florida that was just all about
Starting point is 01:17:35 that so like girls on on stilts doing the creepy like circus shit and it was just really really that one weirdo from fury road that was in the dead zone there was a clown guy running around with like a noise box that made this high-pitched scream and he would like throw it in your ear and stuff great but that you know once or twice but still had an amazing time for my anniversary there and uh unfortunately i don't remember a lot of it i think i i said this in a video that maybe an evil within that we did where i'm like i don't uh missing blocks of time yeah actually because it was free open bar and it was free food well they had the giant turkey legs they had it like the turkey legs that from i'm just like yeah turkey legs and then i lost turkey legs is the last thing
Starting point is 01:18:26 i kind of remember uh-huh and the other thing i remember is being kicked out of an uber where the guy was like why'd you throw up and i'm like because i fucking drank god that's it's halloween that's a bad answer oh boy but he asked me why i did that's why you should have opened the window just like a just like get the side of that when you're when you're far gone you're far gone honestly you don't remember right so maybe you tried to open the window what was in your way but strangely that's when you're fucking with the guy's business man that's his office anyway it's like i threw up on this mixer guess guess what will he charge us $150 yeah didn't give us a bad rating just charges $150 oh that's fair fine yeah that sounds that sounds fair but he showed a picture of the damage
Starting point is 01:19:12 and there's like this one spot of moisture and i'm like that doesn't look like $150 but whatever your rating is worth it uh i somehow made my way to a shower and got cleaned up and i don't remember doing that yeah and my wife doesn't remember me doing that because she was helping the the fucking guy and the next day i was just like yeah i feel fine was yeah because you got rid of all of it it all came out i guess so that's how that works i was just wait when you when you empty the contents of your stomach i was just assuming i'd feel like shit tomorrow just like a headache when you get so wasted i know this somehow when you get so wasted that your memory goes and part of that memory is bleh everywhere you you feel great that because you sleep great and get you get it all whatever's
Starting point is 01:20:02 in your liver is all that's left in your body i guess and and and and yeah and i mean so so this is one of those then it's the experience where you learn your limits and you know your threshold and then you never go like you never go past them again right the turkey leg was so awesome yeah and then and then now that you know your limits you never go past them again right dancing that does it because both times i've i'm hearing you get sandbags super hard because you're super totally know where your limits are now and you're never gonna exceed them because you know where to stop right it's been like twice in as many years like how you do when you're a teenager right yes great but it's the combination of drinking eating and dancing dancing is the third one
Starting point is 01:20:43 it's the third one dancing is always what makes me do it because everything's washing around in my tummy oh boy it's real bad but it didn't stop me from oh man wallastows in florida i got a cinnamon vanilla cinnamon vanilla lucky charms and uh god what was it hot cocoa cocoa puffs the newest cereals and i saw some candy cane or something like that that was that was today okay so i picked those up which i needed is ammunition because the other day i went to montreal cereal bar barley that has lots of other stuff like coffee and salads and whatever but i went there with two snacks and liam and some people and they have exotic um exotic uh usa cereals and before we got there we're looking at the menu we're like okay so how is this gonna
Starting point is 01:21:36 happen you can mix four cereals together which is which i did and woolly we we all know the meat sweats yeah yeah i got the cereal sweats yeah that's bad we're after the four cereals in a standard size bowl i was like whoo yeah whoo well you're eating like a fist full of sugar man yeah so i i i walked home and i bought some things and i was just working out up like a hell because i'm reading them like what do you do when you're like oh shit cereal about to go to a diabetic sugar it's like work out dude work fucking out but uh before i ate any there i uh i was talking to like a guy i just thought was a server and he was like yeah no i'm the owner i'm like oh okay cool cool cool and there's this giant um
Starting point is 01:22:25 board room that's in this restaurant that's a big glass thing and a giant like you know when you get talked to for verbal warnings of course bug testing yeah he has this big glass room and he's like oh yeah i'm also like a pr company and and shit i have this and then i look out on the restaurant as i do my other business here i'm like cool cool cool hey have you seen these cereals and i took out the picture of the vanilla cinnamon lucky charms he's like whoa and i'm like yeah yeah i have a couple more and he's like yeah yeah yeah and i'm like yeah i want to i want to do a show where i review cereals he's like you can film it here you can film it here so the connection has been made a fucking predator handshake and he's like you're into cereals dude and i'm like i
Starting point is 01:23:09 am and so are you and he's like i'm fucking and it was just amazing this is the business deal that will kill Matt how are your toes doing toes are doing fine because you like them so for a serial review show you get you need to have one spoonful okay that's yeah but what about what about the after-party the after-serial part the after-serial because uh uh because i can't remember it because we have cereal and booze the after hours you dance and sloshes around that's how it works if if if if something was to be filmed at this at this venue which is very very nice if you're in muncher all i suggest you go because they have much to you okay there you seem to have owned yourself i'm our our office isn't currently ramp friendly it'll have to take a minute
Starting point is 01:24:02 oh man to make those renovations i'll be fine let me ask you do you drink just when you're when you're mostly done cereal do you drink the milk that's left afterwards um if there's a lot no if there's a little bit sure yeah because like i did that once and i felt like like that's it's too much it's i all jokes aside like it's really good but all jokes aside uh like on a daily basis when i eat cereal i don't actually eat oh hell no you can't i eat rice krispies or krispex or i eat something with incredibly low sugar yeah no you die yeah because i have all the sugary cereals stocked up yeah for such a show no when you're a young energetic you know like bright young boy then you have all that sugar energy to burn yeah later years you don't have all that to burn you
Starting point is 01:24:49 know it's funny when i have couch and controller energy to burn also at this place they have saturday morning cartoons playing every day oh that's just the fucking cherry on top they had duck tails and inspector gadget playing on the screen so that was a very nice touch barley it's called very fun anyway okay cool um i uh played a couple things uh while i was doing some scream learning uh yes i heard you scream before last and yeah that was uh that was fun that was a really interesting i saw you looking prim and proper it was uh over at montreal esports which is the new building that's opened up on like pretty much central samara like yeah i know i walk by every day and um and it's uh yeah basically like they're it used to be a party shop yeah so it's a really
Starting point is 01:25:45 fancy office now all glass walls everywhere type thing and uh george st pier recent ufc victor over michael disping and who played bar talk the leaper in captain america winter soldier that too perhaps his number one achievement maybe ufc being somewhere in the distant third yeah maybe uh he was uh yeah he basically has his esports team that he's making um so a bit like how echo fox you know is is set up like athlete gets into the esports game uh gsp is getting into the it as well and so the first grizzly inductee winner of that tournament was uh chy rithy henry shocker well uh if you haven't been following it actually is because really yeah yeah because Street Fighter 5 is a very different game now and lots of new names lots of new threats and it's
Starting point is 01:26:36 whatnot but it was a really it was a really cool thing um so congrats to him for that sponsored by by gsp he can now say that he's not impressed with people's performances great and he's allowed to get out yeah yeah he can pull that off now esports and uh yeah and it is also nice because you have to embrace the fact that like man if you want to go anywhere fgc you have to basically be you have to get over that esports thing well where's that leaf flow ah flow g sad he's gonna be on twitch he's gonna be doing his angry streams with honzo gonzo it'll be fine um anyway uh so yeah there's that um i uh what else did i do i so yeah around that time had to go take care of family things and i was out for a bit uh but during that time i was
Starting point is 01:27:36 um i played i finished off metroid 2 yeah and uh that is a really fun remake boy oh boy because you kind of bounce around between saying i like it and you're like i'm not sure about that changer so you know what it is it's that it's what you end up having is just like when you're you know you're so you see something and you're like this is different yeah this is not what i'm used to it's different yeah it's different and it's like yeah it is and then at the end it was like all right you know what no that was fine so so it finished strong finishes very strong cool finishes with uh a really really awesome sequence that you know isn't very metroid like and also is not what you know because there's no there's no shine spark in the game it's metroid 2 you know what i
Starting point is 01:28:21 mean like you're you're fighting you're going off to fight the queen and whatever and stuff but but like the powers you do get are um like like i said they're impeccable and yeah i think my single like besides the actual shine spark my single like favorite like power up of any metroid game ever is the one introduced into this game um it's a new i've heard about right to it is and is it is yeah i don't know what it is but i've heard multiple so you get what you get in the game is you get a couple of different um like passive power ups right sure right and like you can you set them on dependent the user energy meter and like one of them is like just like an armor shield yeah yeah it's the green shield one of them is a uh time stop time slow so that it lets you get past areas
Starting point is 01:29:04 that you otherwise wouldn't be able to the door coming down have tons of enemies use slow down and move and it uses that bar one of them is map uncover which is a chunk to just do a radar you know that's great and unchunk a square a chunk of map and it's like that's super useful and then the final one is it turns samus's gun into an automatic okay and you just hold button and problem solved problem solved problem solved it's amazing and it feels good and it's just is that that's the last ability yet that's the that's because yeah it is yeah and it is that's amazing because that's what you need to want to clean up anything you haven't gotten dude leading up to the last fight you can when you're when you're when you're when you're doing yeah when
Starting point is 01:29:54 you're doing like uh when you're shooting through like all walls and whatnot you have your your best version of the gun and everything yeah well not like you just absolutely melt any room you run into and it's fucking great uh super super cool so um bruh bruh tata tata tata is the sound of samus now yeah but but anyway no metro two really good remake uh mercury steam good job guys you did it it finally did a completely unarguable good job uh most frustrating and annoying thing about it is again the fact that it's on the fucking 3ds well and here's happy to resell it to you in eight years on the switch i hope we can get a proper game that is 2d on the switch please i know prime was four is coming but we also could use one of these that'd be nice anyway uh so yeah just you
Starting point is 01:30:49 know a lot of time just you know killing time with darkest dungeon and and um finding a vizek back and forth and whatnot but i mentioned sonic mania before as well yeah um so and i guess uh yeah i guess i'll the only one thing i'll mention is i picked up drop mix are you familiar with drop drop mix now drop mix is the new game from harmonics and it is half card game half uh like music a mobile game which is super not in the wheelhouse of our discussion but here's what it is is uh you have you basically you download an app right and then you have a board and the board lets you play cards on these slots each slot is um either vocals bass drums lead okay you know rhythm and so on and and you play a card game or you can just freestyle it where you play the cards
Starting point is 01:31:47 down of different points and different values and it creates mixes on the fly and it sounds incredible that sounds like it would be a nightmare to actually get that working properly and you it's it is almost impossible to make something that sounds bad i bet you i can i promise you it's really hard i don't think you understand there's mixes that don't go as well as others but they all come together really well and the whole thing is based on the fact that whatever you put down first pretty much sets the bpm yeah sure and everything else is going to match that yeah that makes sense right and then when you and then certain cards are like certain songs are like and they're all like real current songs and whatnot you know and and certain tracks
Starting point is 01:32:29 will remix everything and like up and then speed it up to that song's uh uh uh bpm and and key it's hard to describe you really just have to get it by sort of seeing it in action but i promise you it's a ton of fun and it's not a rhythm game it's a music game okay um okay i guess uh uh uh yeah i really highly recommend it um the like at first it felt like the there's a bit too many rules on the versus mode and that i just kind of want to have fun being a dj right and whatnot but then after getting into it and and really paying attention to the rules and harmonics has done a couple streams to explain how this card game version of it works it's quite in depth and and well thought out and uh yeah if you haven't heard
Starting point is 01:33:16 of or seen what they've been working on it's fucking harmonics drop drop mix right it's harmonics they know what the fuck they're doing they're not going to get into a card game thing unless they've done some research and like this game is uh liam and uh and tom have been uh posting a bit about it actually and yeah um look into it honestly it's a super fun music game that they just put out on and it's great for like you can do a 1v1 2v2 or like party mode you know a whole room gets in that type of thing uh so this actually reminds this is this might feel off topic but you talking about this game reminds me because you were looking at divinity 2 right i was i bought it uh did you play any of it you make character not yet so there's part of the
Starting point is 01:34:01 character creation process that i forgot to mention that you would really really appreciate the final thing that you choose during your character creation and it's per character like per person um you choose what instruments are used for all of that character's character moments oh nice so uh like the quest acceptance or quest completion or you know big moment for your character you can choose from like a piccolo or like a spanish guitar or like a i think a shamisen and all these these fucking things oh my god yeah i'm really sick excuse me um that's awesome that's a really unnecessary oh it's so unnecessary and you even get to like you as you choose in the menu the main menu music changes to fit it nice yeah um yeah so uh uh yeah this thing
Starting point is 01:34:49 is like like i feel like uh uh the best way i was like when i when i showed it to my girlfriend like you just kind of like turn it on and hand them a deck of cards and then they go uh what and then you put a card into a glowing box and then the thing starts playing you go okay and then you put another one and it's like oh hey yeah and then you can and then you do things like and then i grab another card and i put it on top of the first card and then the mix goes down and you're like oh that works shit and then so you're like whoa and then it plays the new top layer in and whatnot and like and then you can pull things off and it always does it to the beat as well because it knows when the transition should occur and such so it really does make it like uh you can be
Starting point is 01:35:31 incompetent and still make something you know pretty sounds perfect for me and uh yeah you can save your mixes and such there was there was a a petty arcade comic about it that i went back and i read that it's the whole thing about remember we're talking about the crabs on with like playing games for fun versus playing for the experience that's right for playing for the uh the experience of beating it rather yeah so some of that is fighting the game versus experiencing the game right so what was you know like taiko's like if we stop here we will have created the perfect song this is like a religion of music and we can just quit and enjoy this and he's like nah fuck you i'm here to win you know type of thing because that's that's what's happening but what is fun as well as that
Starting point is 01:36:11 like cards of like lower value have like are more mellow and cards of higher value are like bombastic and higher tempo yeah so and and the cards of higher value beat out the lower tempo so every time you play like a oh shit moment the music in the room reflects that moment because you're like ah fuck you i just took over this is like a fucking crazy future game that i would not have expected so soon well if you you're you've been to japan i have you've been to those arcades i have did you go up to the top floor yes i did you saw the card games i did then you've seen there was not a single person there using them so i did oh well i guess you were not there when they were you were there when they were at school yeah something but if you were there and after school
Starting point is 01:36:52 hours you'd be seeing tons of kids playing their card games on what we should have here which is like you know your your fucking any card game has the um uh nfc chips in them or whatever or i or our or yeah and then you just drop it on the thing and then you get to experience your fucking monster rancher battles and whatnot um so that's been going on there for a while and like this is the first i guess like big push thing here i've seen like it uh though oh i think just like harmonics to use an idea that was big in japan but then make it for us yeah no really think about it yeah basically but they did a good job they do a good job didn't okay joe anyway um news shall we shall we there's some fucking weird there's some weird news actually there's one weird news i saw
Starting point is 01:37:43 this morning i was like fuck you that's fake and then it wasn't fake and i was like what the fuck there's more weird news than even that oh man all right well i mean start with news let's start with new but i guess we can we can go in order of gravity um okay gravity to announce which one's closest to the earth that'd be the heaviest so which one's this oh yeah yeah so hey everybody skip forward to yeah when you're watching the unjustice two fighter pack three reveal skip forward to 40 not 50 yeah 55 skip forward to 55 seconds get out of here adam and i don't know who the fuck that is oh that's enchantress who gives a shit forward to 55 seconds oh my god and enjoy the the the rafael oh man there's a ninja turtle and everyone's like i will enjoy rafael is that
Starting point is 01:38:39 melina oh yeah that's what that's why they did that you have a half second yeah yeah oh man the fucking reaction of people at an injustice event when this was revealed no no so that was sejam and tasty steve and those dudes are they're a fucking they're the they're the best they're like they're the commentators alongside um uh ultra ultra chen and um how how ultra david and and david chen um but i will for like what is it is it strikers uh special moves each one comes out nah man six characters well i always try but how to try board work again i forget no no no so it's gonna be it's gonna be a generic turtle and then you're going to equip uh you mean like any of the turtles it's gonna no it's gonna be like a there's a there's a generic turtle and then you equip
Starting point is 01:39:24 the accessories that turn them into the other turtle the turtle that you because because of the gear element and yeah i guess so you have like a turtle template basically so um that was super cool and um i'm glad when things happen where like sometimes the winds blow in your direction and you go huh yeah a familiar wind yeah a good wind i'm glad that this wind came my way and but and i somehow knew this wind would come i was i was waiting for this wind and here it is i will say this there's something that kenny uh from yo video games talks about where he's like i love injustice i love everything about injustice i love all the special characters what i don't love is like a minority perhaps of injustice players that are like fuck these guests they're ruining
Starting point is 01:40:20 everything when you show a video of literally like a room of hundreds of people getting hyped and the four exactly yeah and so the four idiots that said that got blown the fuck up by everyone with a soul in the fgc basically coming out and going do you remember you have you have a horrible sad existence if all if you just if you shit on ninja turtles showing up in injustice if you don't guess character that can bring more people's eyes into your game if you don't if that moment brings you anything but joy you have a sad existence also the ninja turtles are comic book characters yeah like their popularity blew up on tv and all that but they are they did have a comic and they still have multiple comics that like it reminds me a lot of when a fucking uh ryu
Starting point is 01:41:04 got announced for smash smash and there was this diehard group and it's not a fucking nintendo character he is and it's like well he's been on a nintendo platform yeah um like honestly are those the same people that complained about snake and sonic yeah so incredibly minor and pointless that not even worth acknowledging like the overwhelming amount of people were like tasty steve and sejam shaking and going fucking what and and like you know the the fact that like every news story talking about it talks about the reaction first and then the news second you know check out everyone going fucking ripping their clothes off yeah no dude that's that was a hell of a bomb i mean hellboy was a was was was fun was fun hellboy was fun but this is how you set
Starting point is 01:41:54 the world on fire at least for a night plus the fucking ninja turtles and batman had a comic book crossover like i read it yeah yeah it's not like this is the place where my parents died rafael and he's a that's rough bro you want a pizza i think they michael there's a panel michael angelo saying maybe you'd stop being so angry if you ate this gooey pizza and then batman i'm not gonna put that into my body slice it's the heavens food for men and all men are like bat and turtle yeah and then batman eats it he's like it's pretty good so alfred make me a pizza alfred where's my pizza uh so yeah man i'm fucking good on them for securing that one is so far uh i feel that nether elm well no choose your words carefully because nether elm has had a
Starting point is 01:42:51 really good drop for every one of their games with the exception of injustice one yeah because scorpion wasn't that big a deal yeah yeah it didn't have the same fervor as it was cool for people though the first time going like oh shit hey cool scorpion's like kind of hilarious of like really you can't you can't help yourself and you just gotta put but but yeah but mk9 mk10 and it's weird they have had a holy shit drop it's weird that you say that because like despite like the holy shits that we've had like scorpion like unless some things have changed scorpion like the last time i saw the metric was as he was the most downloaded dlc character of any fighting game ever but there was i don't remember that much like yeah yeah because it was for from casual people
Starting point is 01:43:31 who don't interact with our sphere of hyper the happiest people were nether elm fans that played mk yeah seeing the character pop up in this you know but um in a scene scorpion pop up in a game without a block button weird yeah amazing which means when he jumps behind the screen and attacks you from the other side scorpion's like it's a cross-up you have to manually you have to manually block amazing so enjoy that holding back the block oh so good of course last night we got uh the the the ridiculousness that is noctis showing up into tech in world so weird callium whatever latin man noctis lucis calum uh the coolest thing to me more exciting than noctis showing up i'm not gonna lie is the stage is the stage i got really stage is really fantastic because they're
Starting point is 01:44:21 fucking fighting at the hammerhead garage because a the stage looks like it could be in a teching game it's just like you know and it's identical but it also looks totally ripped from it looks it looks like the same asset right yeah like it looks a hundred percent like they pulled the world out and just dropped it here the only thing i like teching stages have a look to them yeah and this doesn't look like those stages i'd say is that like the trailer unfortunately it's the type of trailer that was built that when i did find a few reaction videos like it wasn't nearly as high because it wasn't like a bam there's no it was you know who it is the instant you see the stage yeah but then the trailer goes on where the phone rings the rest of the boys are all like no it's going to be me
Starting point is 01:45:06 it's going to be me but it's like no it's just not this it's all and it's like the i just wish the trailer had been cut differently that's the geese trailer was cut perfectly yeah the the geese trailer is like is the bar now to me uh maybe there's a couple smash trailers that are better snake snake yeah snake pulling the box off yeah okay uh yeah 100 yeah that's the best one but yeah you're right but um yeah no no this is this is a cool fun one although it isn't everyone was thinking within the realm of fighting games right we were all we're all expecting no the next guest character well okay i should say the fgc discussion was was based on like you know oh yeah are we gonna get soul holy order soul no the question was are we gonna get kiryu or anyone else
Starting point is 01:45:50 because kiryu is the number one voted character and sega said that it would be cool all right so the fighting game community was discussing which guest fighters we'd be seeing to go alongside akuma and geese howard from other companies and at no point did anyone consider a complete not fighting game character to be fair though in soul caliber they've had lots of non fighting game guest characters show up like necron certainly yeah and uh but this would be a fun one and and and he's he's very he's different because they've even got the font going in the trailer uh they you know the biggest thing about noctis here is that he's like a sword character right so you're i'm just looking at that like that's gonna be a problem to deal with just because it was range exactly and it's
Starting point is 01:46:33 nice to see his um his rage art is the uh what's it called again the the the all the holy weapons that are like ancestral armistice for the armature arm it yeah whatever yeah yeah yeah this is the thing yeah our man this just this just makes me want a new soul caliber so bad and guess what what you might see it you might see what oh yay who the fuck are they gonna get for soul caliber oh man they're gonna get all sorts of goofy shit if those rumors are true it's like it's the most embarrassing thing we're it's like right now if we're gonna look at those rumors it's like they're not even bothering developing it for the xbox which sounds a little crazy well let's talk about the rumor about soul caliber six itself in a second though but i wanted to say more about
Starting point is 01:47:18 tecan i wanted to say that uh the probably the strongest thing for them like like whereas in injustice right it feels like the turtles are probably going to be the height of who they pull i can't possibly see them right higher than that that's that's the biggest pull right there and that they have was to get a marvel character uh with tecan this is all they're going to do is just have the speculation train is now run off the rails and gone into space yeah because you know like it's no longer within like like smash where you're like oh they're gonna pull from their friends and they're gonna pull from capcom oh they're gonna pull from anything oh god video games and yeah that's what this is so now anything is possible like kevin garnett
Starting point is 01:48:08 all right rumors but it should be curious it should be you have to say it's like but let's be real he would be the least type of the four in terms of like audience explosion like well simply because yakuza is not the biggest compared to final fantasy in the east it would be it would be totally the biggest like if that dropped at evo you'd get like one or two oh at evo you'd be me and a couple guys go and then like everybody like oh the guy from the yakuza all right yeah sure because at the end of the day it's like i saw i don't know how many people at least like a dozen people on my timeline that were like i don't even know how to pronounce tecan i will buy this because my boy is in it sure like you know it's the it's the type of pull that like a lot of people
Starting point is 01:48:56 can be like oh that's so that's not doesn't fit tecan it doesn't matter if it doesn't fit tecan it's fuck if tecan has a fucking boxing kangaroo shut up it has a boxing velociraptor there has a little baby dinosaur it doesn't matter anymore oh yeah gone broke the mold way more than any of these fuckers yeah i think uh the other cool thing is that since you know cloud held a dead in smash noctis can do this here it doesn't have to go back to cloud type of thing you know so um and and with that you can you can link akuma geese Howard and all the final fantasy so yeah for fuck's sake just to add to your point matt like they had fucking star wars characters light sabers and soul caliber and a bunch of manga characters no one's heard of hell yeah i never
Starting point is 01:49:44 heard of them and not berserk i hope they put i hope they put curio in it though oh man it would it would be it would be nice to get that in there as like i'd rather actually majima but curio is better oh if they put guts in a soul caliber oh man that's what i always thought soul caliber five would have oh man that's etio didn't really give the the due that he should i don't remember any real excitement he was done really well though he was done really well i really did like him no i did too but um yeah yeah manga because because yeah that's true soul caliber goes into the realm of manga so um anyway imagine if guts gets to the end of arcade mode and he's like finally an end to my story it's as best as i'll get oh man what uh how did the last yakuza game sell over here
Starting point is 01:50:39 well well well enough i don't think there was ever any numbers and pot numbers are up like it's out of the horrible rut that it was for many years okay like the the games are pretty much all gonna come over now cool and pretty much everything's been like six and the yakuza kewami too have also been announced throughout here uh okay the the rumor thing is a pretty big article it's very large so i was gonna save it but i guess it's just a bullet right into it uh basically and and here's at the end of the day we don't want to treat this like uh oh no wait not this one whoops we don't want to treat this like facts because these are rumors and a lot of the rumors are too good like i don't believe that just keep in mind these are leaks from a source uh that posted on
Starting point is 01:51:26 our kappa and he said that he was the one who leaked uh ninja turtle senator chantress being in the fighter pack three and posted some game facts things to whatever so so there is some there so the credibility comes from yeah this person posting it's not nothing yeah uh there's a lot of detail here though and some of it is i know for a fact too much to tell like just relating alarms well there there's a lot of this like it doesn't read like a wish list as much as it does read like some practical things because uh in particular what he talks about when he talks about the unity changes that i'm like i go yeah that's true because that is something that has been talked about that's happening so we'll start off with uh the list of street fighter for street fighter five
Starting point is 01:52:10 arcade edition and the the second point of this list is what made me stop stop believing it okay the marvel ship no the second part of street fighter five arcade edition is like no i don't believe that okay okay well okay so season three characters include sagat sakura kodi saddam two newcomers uh two final fight newcomers from one source but roxy and a shadow doll for that's cool so perhaps there's some internal discussion but they're saying this looks like it's going to be the season three group so much final fight i love that i i early on and up until a while ago kept saying that sagat's not coming back and black is not coming back because annoying characters are being done away with because they don't want people to have to deal with annoying play styles
Starting point is 01:52:55 right gal came out and then shows that no we can still do projectiles even though we've made and it can be fun right yeah yay yeah uh so but but here's the thing is every time that's happened the discussion of are we getting sagat back though it's a got coming it's never gone away oh the question so fuck the question has been around aggressively for so long that it's like even with them pretty much saying like yeah no we're trying to make annoying characters not hang you know be a thing it doesn't matter right and so i feel like maybe they'll reinvent it but maybe they won't but either way the idea that like yeah season three has him right up front dude he's the only one still missing right i believe laka who cares but well you mean from the four you know
Starting point is 01:53:38 i'm for the four kings but i also met the original roster but i then i remembered block and you talked about who cares talking about yeah no like he's the only cool one still missing anyway so um i corrected myself so anyway yeah but the point is that because that question never went away and everyone kept going okay but is he coming though me i'm like you know what for sure then because people too many people it hasn't stopped since the game launched too many people want him back so that's gonna come and then they're gonna play against him online and immediately regret their oh yeah no for real always you know uh so yeah that if sakura is not aged then fucking get her okay sakura is not aged uninstall just get her out just get her out no three fighters dead
Starting point is 01:54:19 yeah it's awful if karen can be changed and sakura is the same thing fucking don't even know sakura got even younger she's like 12 now yeah and everyone everyone rightfully also like was really happy with her reu like version outfit so i could see them implementing that while doing the ibuki thing yeah you know maybe a little bit of this a little bit of that right so what's the second part of street fighter five update there will also be free characters added as part of the yeah i don't believe that why i don't believe capcom will give you a bunch of awesome characters for free especially if they're crimson like burq necro and oro a company that charges for stages doesn't give you characters what if what if it's a cat a company that's currently going through
Starting point is 01:55:02 one of the worst like bouts of of pr bullshit they've ever had actually kind of trying to apologize like yeah i legitimately tried to buy all the sf5 stages and couldn't figure out how to get all of them yeah i also tried that it's it's tough it's tough for that it's there needs to be a all pack there there's there's a couple but but it's still not all yeah and and because mostly all pack because the other thing too is to go like to separate like from to go like hey this pack for the seat crap the pro tour puts money towards the pot bonus and whatnot and this pack is so you can buy this with your for your fight bucks and whatnot but they don't want people to spend money on things that like they're not that you you can get for free or you know what i mean like it's
Starting point is 01:55:51 so it's i know what you mean but like the distinction is kind of made to make it clear like this stage is here to support the pro tour yeah and we don't want that money to necessarily be confused with the rest of what's going on over here just want the all pack i know i know and that's the simple the other thing it's like buying cut character colors or buying costumes was like also somewhat because there's there there's no like i want all the characters for karen or i i want all you know yeah but the prime it's just when you get down to the nitty gritty of it right it's like imagine if you are like uh i don't know it's kind of like if someone bought one thing and then potential future releases can fuck that person over sure then to avoid those people getting
Starting point is 01:56:33 upset at that then you you need to like make it more complicated than the main problem is like also the interface on steam for that stuff is pretty bad okay because like you kicks you have to see it's pretty i mean it's not much better on ps4 to be honest you know like you're scrolling through a bunch of boxes and you're like which one's the okay what you know it's a bit weird but anyway the point is is that i could see that being practical because they're currently in the shitter with the public and people are not happy with capcom and i could see them wanting to apologize through that type of gesture and the same goes for the mvci details but anyway um they talk they go on to talk about uh color edit mode and critical and extra critical arts being in the game possibly
Starting point is 01:57:16 not right away and we know that looking at the move list that was leaked from a promotional picture with abigale's moves on it that there's a second v skill or a second v trigger but not a second v skill so some of those things that like there was a there was an early early leak that said second v skill second v trigger second super is coming and then we saw that move list and it's like okay they're gonna probably come around a little bit later because it's too much work right now um then they talk about the input lag fix and this is what makes me think this because this is super real this has been going around for all the fighters right everything running on ue4 has had input lag based on the the engine that you know they're running on and it ranges in some cases
Starting point is 01:58:02 they managed to get it down from eight frames of like to six point five with street fighter five other games techend has had it as well and techend has has also recently reduced input lag by two frames it helps with online believe it or not right like it's it's it's shitty in some way but like it makes online easier so that like a lot easier right so that they have more but more frames to play with that when you're dropping frames when you're doing rollback and whatnot um it makes charge characters stronger with less input lag really because there's you have less time to react to what's happening like it's just straight straight up a thing in the game where yeah charge characters become better because it's harder to react to what they do um but uh
Starting point is 01:58:48 yeah this stuff harada just talked about techend getting updated for an input lag fix yeah they're going to port it to the new version of unreal so street fighter getting that as well because unreal had these changes but it's going to take a while for every fighting game with this to implement it is uh is uh one of the big rumors here that i'm like yeah nope that sounds extremely cromulate you know quite cromulent yeah uh second is mvci talking about season two um including star lord miss marvel is in kamala khan asura gill and lady uh but uh not everyone has been able to agree on lady and uh which is weird some people are saying was she other people are saying regina from dino crisis which is the who that is the deepest darkest pick well you say
Starting point is 01:59:37 that that's not the deepest dark she's gotten play in namco x capcom and in project cross zone i guess so she's been back days uh sorry where were you looking at uh towards the end okay oh you're jumping really far okay i know i know who the characters are we'll get there so uh yeah that being the end for season two makes a whole lot of sense uh i can see star lord of course because everyone looks at the roster and goes why is the only guardian of the galaxy not here we need a gun character yeah which is why regina probably won't make it because really she just uses she's gonna be another no man she'll have dinosaur powers the dinosaurs will attack her instead of zombies that's right and she'll be doing she'll be jill chris and frank stuff no she'll be like jill from mvc
Starting point is 02:00:19 too yeah which is also frank west right now don't worry about it but the dinosaurs yeah so anyway that's why that would be lame so i apologize this would be great uh i rashid is the pick quite frankly in my opinion um anyway so here's where things get interesting uh here's where things get ridiculous right because uh beyond that season the the full list of characters in development but not currently assigned to a season include star lord miss marvel green goblin wolverine cyclops silock magneto storm deadpool dr doom daredevil ashira lady gill rashid captain commando nina from breath of fire dais from breath of fire regina gene from god hand virgin akuma and apollo justice no breath of fire characters getting in there that is not a single power stone
Starting point is 02:01:15 character you fucking serious uh so did you catch that rumor no yes i did what that rumor oh that thing about where it's like we're gonna put falcon in it and we're about to develop him and marvel was like no fuck that yeah we have a guy named falcon it'll be confusing so i mean that was gonna come a little bit later i think actually on this page uh but there there was a discussion of putting in uh falcon or rouge and then they decided to and then apparently because of marvel's falcon they could they decided to not do that and that stops rouge how uh it doesn't it doesn't is the answer they didn't do it but anyway uh so that happened right now uh that list right there is that's what you call a fucking fixer upper because yeah but you know what i mean there's
Starting point is 02:02:03 a little bit of something for everybody on that list like i'll believe providing that's the whole thing i'll believe a lot of capcom leak lists because they're almost always 100 true but that's like it's so many characters and it's a lot of ones we've been asking for it's like it's that's what i mean by it's too wished listy to me i you know you're i mean it's i want to believe it could be i don't know but yeah this is all still rumors right uh one thing that's sure that certain is um that if this did happen then we would be looking at like a roster that is pretty much got what every one of us was asking for yeah i mean i i wish cyclops wasn't in it but what can you do i i i almost feel as if like like gene showed up after they heard the internet getting angry at
Starting point is 02:02:54 the fact that gene was not there yeah yeah that's what i mean that's right captain commando rashid like those things all seem to be um they all seem to be like response as soon as also one that i feel like the internet's been crying for sure virginal people people you know anything doctor do well virginal's not at virginal's just read his assets so that's fine yeah and i would say i'll believe anyone that was in marvel three right yeah i would say i would say mss but no sentinel but siloq is back so there's that right siloq really uh she was a marvel god no no i was back in the day but it's like i just feel like marvel just pushes everyone who wants to push but that but that those okay siloq magneto storm uh wolverine cyclops this is marvel returning
Starting point is 02:03:41 based on marvel versus capcom 2 not based on anything mcu related or xr fox or any siloq for fuck's sake yeah that's why they're back they're back based on their history with the with the friend you know what's going to be about that list no sentinel yeah we're just yeah it's not yes i said it's not mss um right so that leaves the the numbers uh imbalanced 11 marvel and 12 capcom which uh yeah okay anyway um that's fine 2v2 mode uh fantastic four has not been mentioned at all good don't really know and so on and so on yadda yadda yadda um it then talks about a kind of patch that'll fix the art style improve the visuals including the ui and so on and so forth i 1000 percent believe i completely believe that that i almost don't believe that well when again
Starting point is 02:04:36 that's like an internet one one mean one mean to the next so it's so needed ever no it's not just needed it's such a loud complaint it is about the game it is the constant refrain every time you play it just oh man that looks like crap and everyone that enjoys it is all we're like we're like you're on the defensive because you're like i have no there's no excuse for this except the game is good like when when the rest why not me and snacks are playing it like he pointed out like something that i hadn't noticed like the the choose your gem art is like super low res for some reason like that that game's a mess all over the place huh so yeah so you know we're looking at that and then you're looking at uh uh the what was it the possibility of yeah getting up to 58 to 60 characters
Starting point is 02:05:23 which is the most yeah yeah that's more than marvel 2 um ultron sigma becoming playable with some changes and patching to make him fair obviously and then the big dumb head version yeah apollo justice possibly having athena and trucey in the move set well what about mr hat yeah mr hat mr hats the strongest follow up to story mode content based on the way that shit didn't really end yeah that seems really believable yeah it's like one of the worst endings ever nothing happens i guess it's fine well we like the world got fucked and we killed the bad guy but the world is still everyone is dead still yeah uh then we move on re2 remake is a third person game you should see something about it next year man that that's that's the re remake
Starting point is 02:06:11 rumor every year yeah but that's see the problem with that is that that doesn't answer the question everyone knows it'll be third person everyone wants to know is the camera going to be behind the back or is it going to be fixed that's all that actually matters about that because i assume the team that's actually making this is the team that ported uh re uh remake oh the zero so i assume i assume it's just going to be that the last that i heard is that they were arguing internally and it was split 50 50 between those two choices amazing i mean wouldn't one assume that it would be like four and five well no because it's not really why would it be like four and five because that's what popular re became yeah but like we said the remake is plenty popular on its own the and and
Starting point is 02:06:51 this is a remake of two in the vein of one which is what everybody always asks for zero if i don't know i don't know if they hadn't ported remake in zero into modern consoles i'd be like it could be anything but because they at least have that experience they wanted to see what people's taste in that old style was and people's taste was high enough to green light this new one so it would be totally baffling for them to go hey it's it's like the the cursed capcom test hey you like this here's umbrella critical i look again i legit i'm asking because i have no idea i don't know um so anyway the people who bought remake pretty much across the board want it to be fixed camera but the average person wants it to be third person proper now next on the list independent of this guy's
Starting point is 02:07:35 actual leak we heard about before as well dmc five has been rumored uh like on its own you see johnny embossed do that shit and and then it turned out to be a commercial or a whatever mobile game thing or whatever it was yeah okay but they're well you know hey we're back in the studio with the fucking mocap on no that's that's the stuff with langdon that that did turn out to be that shit but i'm talking about johnny embossed like a month ago got asked at a con he was doing a little hey i'm johnny you know the thing and he's like how in the fuck's the hell my crock coming out and he just goes and just like walked away yeah yeah so there you go it's like so it's been it's been it's been pushed for a little bit more than just this this list and uh this list does say though uh playable
Starting point is 02:08:26 nero dante and virtual great that's good there's not much else i could ask for oh man that's a good list of characters that anything else you do is fine you throw sparta on that i'm like yep that's okay too but anyway um like if like it's like point one you want to hear about dmc five is one devil may cry five yeah not yeah don't take nero and virtual done okay it doesn't it doesn't matter it doesn't matter could you do without one of them uh yeah who would you ask don don't yeah i fucking do that shit of course we just had a conversation not too long ago like nero is the greatest yeah that's fucked up it's so that's crazy that feels dirty i feel dirty say okay get him out of there characters in mario odyssey peach luigi in toad yeah i feel so dirty
Starting point is 02:09:26 but it's so true i completely heard you oh no god damn wow ouch all right well the other thing on that list is uh dragon ball fighters and that was main that was mainly about mentioning broly regular goku and regular vegeta potentially bringing that list to six versions are three versions of goku what is regular goku and regular not super saiyan who cares who that is no no no listen don't worry that's going to become the new ultra beast version so the problem is that they have so many moves especially goku mainly goku that like you can actually spread them apart but i agree it's a waste i don't like i'm not as fun or as hype as interested in seeing a version of the character with different hair but just put them on in the same slot just make you're not
Starting point is 02:10:21 interested in seeing the same character with different hair you're looking at the wrong franchise wrong franchise that's true um so yeah so you're looking at regular goku regular vegeta broly uh hey broly hey and they're gonna be dlc including bar doc fuck uh goku black as well so that's for goku actually goku blacks do we need oh we don't need that many we already know a goku black i don't need more goku black friends oh you have you think oh boy the possibility yeah oh yeah you think we're gonna get the black goku in here the black goku as opposed to goku black i'll be up for the character designer any day yeah i've made so many i mean at this point why not why not uh raditz as well to be discussed you know what though like i'd rather raditz to
Starting point is 02:11:14 regular goku and regular yeah well you're gonna get all of them so you know um and then of course the uh the talk about the switch port and the fact that it's gonna end up on the switch because everything that's built on there's no reason not to unreal engine 4.15 is switch friendly namco likes to switch unlike how come then lastly we have uh not lastly but soul caliber six is next on that list oh man if only might happen might be coming to all consoles not xbox maybe we're not sure and uh link most likely link showing up as a guest character and being announced at psx is a possibility as well and a lot of these rumors keep stating if like further down the list that there's uh they apparently keep alluding to some big nintendo direct in january which
Starting point is 02:12:04 would make sense because they had a big nintendo direct in january this year now this and this rumor part here has something that sounds rumory and fakie and fanboy which is at the end or killic is back and he has his old moveset not the stupid weapon master thing everyone hated in five yeah and it's like yeah we know he took over the weapon master role or whatever but it sounds like such a fan thing it sounds like way too excited yeah so you're like yeah the guy that wrote this really wants to make his soul caliber six but anyway uh i think i've seen this before i'd rather actually soul caliber just reboot or just get rid of i i do let's go back to soul edge and do soul edge too hard i just mean that there's so much shit now and it's just i don't know uh i i i
Starting point is 02:12:52 agree i agree and i think i think a lot of people um could affirm as well like yeah a hard reboot would be absolutely welcome i mean five doing a time jump was uh you know the right idea but it didn't really push it actually because it brought back so many old characters it doesn't really matter but yeah no absolutely just just a hard reboot you know don't call it soul caliber you know yeah soul something but it'd be really cool it'd be really cool to see a yes no seriously call soul edge too it's like just have a have a different winner of the tournament become the new nightmare sword valor have tacky be the one who gained soul edge and become the new boss man just pick another word and spell it wrong yeah and you'll be fine you'll be fine oh man uh yeah and then
Starting point is 02:13:39 nintendo stuff was a bit more general but you know um some of it seemed very fanny to me yeah nintendo's trying to get a pokemon game out of game freak on the switch like a heart shocker natural prime four i know made by nanko bandai though that's interesting if true animal crossing the virtual console thing i've is i 100 percent believe we're getting a subscription service 100 uh play all the games you want while as long as you pay for the monthly uh mother three being real localized and playable same thing we've heard for a while and uh twiwi two so the world ends with you too like i don't believe that i want to believe that but i don't believe that you know what i fucking do believe hearthstone for the switch that is the most obvious killer app you
Starting point is 02:14:30 possible oh yeah like i know it would work on it good yeah so this is uh this is i would call this a megaton if this were real and here's the thing is some of this could be real in fact it could it could end up being one or two things here but that's a lot of information and uh some of it pretty Cromulan like i said lots of Cromulan the level of Cromulan is high high level is high percentage of Cromulan but anyway um so we've we've tracked down people are too used to not getting what they want to feel hopeful of any of that in this whole caliber vein we all track down the rumors we traveled to towns due to these rumors and we found out that some of these rumors might be true you know it's not on that list what's that new shit that's right yeah it's true guess what because you can't
Starting point is 02:15:26 predict new shit can you guess what's not on the list for video games new stuff it's all stuff which is also i believe i think that's also real i think i believe a rumor list more when i see unannounced weird game that involves uh trees and spears yeah what that's a weird one and you're guys like yeah i don't know i'm not on the project but all i know is the guys down on the fifth floor have been working on some tree spear thing all i know is they got some mutant raccoon rpg i yeah yeah yeah you know i know i can't say i don't know and then you just have yeah weird unknown tree mutant rp like you know what i mean yeah that sounds like a fucking real it's like you place your quarter up on the rumor man's desk and you're like rumor man
Starting point is 02:16:12 what's new coming he's like um there's a psx and a nintendo directive or anything new and he's like but but but fan that wants to make up dreams is going you know all the things we all love that thing is real so like there's nothing will smack more of some asshole going hey than star fox and metroid yeah yeah you know yeah yeah because that took no effort to make up in your head no it's it's the unknown i can't explain what i saw if they go that you need to believe was there any rumor less saying sucker punch is making this weird japanese on a musha game hell no fuck you that's not in fact there was a bunch of rumors about how the studio is a shithole and how they don't know how to make anything they mismanage everything hey and then
Starting point is 02:17:03 sucker punch doesn't strike me is that company they put out like a good ps4 game and a good follow up dlc game to that speaking of mismanagement hell yeah let's go let's talk about best friends we gotta click that video thing we can talk about electronic arts but i don't know which way you want to go with this one most downvoted comment right at history let's go that way yeah quite frankly i think pat just summed it up this is the most asinine patronizing fucking piss on me and telling me it's raining statement i've ever seen in my entire time following the games industry and that's saying a lot pat pat where's your sense of pride and accomplishment so they straight up just tell pride and accomplishment so there's two parts to this one is
Starting point is 02:17:57 the review copies for battlefront to have been found to have fucked uh and easier to obtain point values for buying things such as heroes and shit like that it is six times easier to buy things in that shop than it is in the retail game as a response to this kerfuffle and everybody going hey what the fuck every single piece of news about battlefront is how it's a microtransaction filled shithole that fucks me when i pay for it ea released what may be the most condescending thing ever saying we want players to really earn and value their own now which is now you know what why don't you just read the fucking thing verbatim shall we yeah uh threat is called seriously i paid 80 to have vader locked vader was not locked in the first game hell no he wasn't he was not
Starting point is 02:18:49 in fact you did the tutorial as him yeah ea community team responds the intent is to provide players with a sense of pride and accomplishment for unlocking different heroes as for cost we selected initial values based on the data from the open beta and other adjustments made to milestone rewards before launch among other things we're looking at the average per player credit earn rates on a daily basis and we'll be making constant adjustments to ensure that players have challenges that are compelling rewarding and of course attainable via gameplay we appreciate the candidate feedback and the passion the community has put forth around the current topics passion means you're all pissed off you're on reddit our forum it does it does our forums
Starting point is 02:19:33 and across numerous social media outlets our team will continue to make changes and monitor the community feedback and update everyone as soon as and as often as we can congratulations 419 000 downlikes is just enough downlikes to unlock vader you did it seriously i hope you feel pride and a sense of accomplishment it's that that was written by a marketing man who was all in on the oh you're gonna he did it um that was all in on the process of like let's game the systems of the people by the train like it's the most transparent fucking by the shit you fucking hacks shit ever it's the worst it's the worst i mean ultimately um yeah this i was gonna buy this game and because of this shit i'm gonna skip it like i was oh yeah
Starting point is 02:20:29 i'm i'm very out i'm very out like i couldn't be more disinterested yeah i have and me and that we talked about it we have had problems with lootbox shitting yeah but this is too far i'm really glad that i haven't even booted up wolfenstein because i'm going to boot up wolfenstein but it's also it also is like we all care about star wars enough to care enough to buy the game but not enough to to get in on that to play the game that is this process you can live your life and be fine without it back in the day you might need to play unlock arcade mode with every character and get your vader like in masters of terracotta or whatever it is i'm fine with that honestly because it's not that big of a time sink but either playing the game to like whatever level
Starting point is 02:21:14 it is to unlock vader or pay that much for it that's like that's like what this this generation is sort of now it's the new low well i mean we talked about games as a service uh a couple of last episode or the one before i forget we talked about more than that but there was but there was a a i think the one you missed or so uh we yeah we went we went in on it for a while and the uh thing with this in particular that like uh someone posted an article from a pr guy that talked about some of like what goes into planning out how you put in these microjohns actions and it's like yeah it's it's a hundred percent true and anyone that's working at the companies can tell you this that like they will 100 look at how much value annoys you and how much
Starting point is 02:22:02 like yeah people get upset by what the threshold is dial it back just beneath there's there's a sweet spot and account for a number of people getting pissed off and go well no we expect this many people like that to get pissed and leave in this and then what what remains is still it's like scott steiner trying to explain math but he's like you take 26 chance of people being pissed off and the trick is is that if you do it little by little game per game you wear down that tolerance so that it gets worse over time the other part of the post which is totally true is the idea that uh you suggest changes and that your changes are like fixes to the most egregious problems but not actually the core of the shit remains the core of the shit is still this because
Starting point is 02:22:49 your the economy they planned can't be changed drastically they you know the money was spent to make them to have this game be this type of service but what they can do is change how expensive things are you can see the uh the for honor thing right and whatnot where they go yeah we'll make certain things cheaper the things that get a people upset will become cheaper but it's and then then then the the the the press becomes about the changes right but ultimately the the core system is still there and it's not going to go anywhere and the people that never come back we expected you to be gone and that's fine but for honor it's like hey here's this character class this is a fictional character there's a lot of history and a lot of like it's fucking Darth Vader I would be like
Starting point is 02:23:30 generally okay with this if they had like unlocks of like more obscure star wars characters as you level up in the game or whatever get grito get whoever you know uh but locking Vader when he was not locked in the first I should also mention that the the particular rage over this for context is because it would take an average of about 40 hours yes that that was that was which is the important bit of like that's ridiculous but because the bullet point that's so easy to to spout is what you just said yeah no Vader no Vader what the fuck then they're gonna fix Vader Vader's gonna be free probably Vader's Vader's probably gonna be free and then you're not gonna bitch about all the rest of the fucking disgusting shit and that's still garbage we went from like oh fuck I got a pre-order
Starting point is 02:24:15 to get Goro I would love to pre-order and get like Vader instead of whatever this is you know uh it yeah it's just part of the game now it's just part of the game and when I say the game I don't mean the video game I mean it's part of the game man yeah hustle game just stay the game forever your outrage is quantifiable expected and calculated that's why people hate Jim Sterling because he amps it up makes it good just being real Jim's too real when you've been in the when you've been in the game yeah making these games for the better part of god knows how many decades now four three right like you know how this goes you this is not our first rodeo with the dlc outrage yeah and they're watching other companies and everyone else's reaction to it like they know
Starting point is 02:25:07 how this is gonna go so let's talk about it's star wars so you can take that risk flip side of this for just one second is like while this sucks if you like star wars like man that sucks for you especially if they don't change it um you know who's not talking about this problem yeah my my sister's brother a super fan star wars guy yeah just wants to play star wars oh yeah star wars I'll play yeah this is the voice of what I mean is that if you can be outraged at this and it's fine to be like mmm god hate this it's fine to be saying what we're saying right now like man I'm not going to buy the game we should probably not do is go to the main developers twitter and give him death threats because that's always something you shouldn't do you know there's always something you
Starting point is 02:25:48 shouldn't do but that that I saw a tweet like earlier today I got like he's like I got five death threats it got five death threats like guess what that's all it's always it's not even part of the discussion because there's always is like injustice just as they calculate your rage try to calculate your own rage and say is my life in a place where I need to threaten this guy's life because I don't get my plastic no nobody nobody's actually nobody who's going to go to somebody at utter death threats is going to have the presence of mind actually has that question yeah of course yeah and and half of them think they're just being funny or over the top it's like it's like g yeah you know that guy who got mad at the grocery store and shed on the floor that was you no it wasn't
Starting point is 02:26:31 it was the other guy well no no that was you yeah you know what when he was in that process he wasn't thinking like oh should I really think about doing this no he's like I'm fucking mad I'm gonna shit on four that's what you said they got damn it that wasn't me they got you on camera I can barely go to the bathroom in a public bathroom how the fuck do you think I could shit my pants or if I shit on the floor and if I was a sufficient amount of rage and anger you know man you do it in your pants that'll show you just get that fight or flight response going and it all comes out oh I'm very used to that fight or flight response that might I'm strong against that so if they announce that they're locking Darth Talon the red twlech Sith Lord I would also probably be very angry
Starting point is 02:27:18 yeah but you know Vader's close no I'm I'm I'm I can easily just be like I'm out of this one because I was already like yeah maybe I kind of you know I was happy with the first one but I was I thought there's other games you can play there's tons and tons of games yeah so um you know anyway the other part is that they sold respawn to EA and now now respawn is owned by you Jim's Jim's a fucking uh twitter post about this nailed it which was written out like noted studio murderer EA buys respawn serial serial killer you don't even need Jim for that the fact that Willie just pulled up an article where the main plot thread is respawn saying Joe don't worry we're not dead yet it's people know just because EA's killed almost every single studio
Starting point is 02:28:11 they ever acquired in this manner doesn't mean that we're gonna die and they've killed studios that they didn't even acquire in this manner it's sure they did yeah if I'm not mistaken they sold respawn to EA for 144 million I think it was is that correct yeah they paid 2.2 mil per employee since it's a pretty small studio I wonder if they get to see that I don't know I don't think it works like that but anyway apparently they're they're letting them maintain their autonomy and they're gonna for now we'll see keep um until they become bio-wear wherever well that's what the thing is is that it it always becomes taxes I think it's Austin respawn maybe I don't know a Montenegro the problem is not pass it's not when things are okay because that's not when the panic happens
Starting point is 02:29:00 the panic happens back in 2004 when EA was just like oh shit shit's not making money shut it all down and then after killing a bunch of shit they go who can do it and then it like respawn's not shut down they're fine we bought them they're their investment they go great force them to make this thing oh they're not making the return on investment that we thought they oh the next cycle around they become like every single fucking time like the golden child for now is the one who gets forced to save the mess of yesterday and then they get shut down now they're creating a new mess oh no so yeah they just killed visceral and the fucking mass effect Montreal by our Montreal hey man like they just they just killed two studios they weren't like they were still here no less they
Starting point is 02:29:46 like they were still scrubbing the blood off the walls yeah of that room and they brought in the new cows and then like like to the room and then they came in and just put their bags down oh listen you a titanfall needs to make up for all the money that mass effect and dead space lost go fucking and also your last titanfall game did not sell well like also we published it and fuck you on it remember that i forgot about which in a hindsight now looks like a ploy to bring their stock value down so that they could buy them by putting it out on fucking call of duty weekend yeah battlefield weekend and we also made or rather rather they also made a free dlc continuously oh yeah for months in in a method that that ea would never
Starting point is 02:30:42 approve of going forward as someone that is now completely for a company that we just said locked Vader behind 80 bucks yeah yeah yeah free dlc for months a year actually something like that yeah but hey at least titanfall 3 will exist maybe i hope so it's a fun i just kind of see that they might just throw them on the next battlefield it'll still be on origin so battle i remember a world where no one cared about titanfall yeah only you back on the original you know it's it's nice to know that people are are um here for the franchise anyone's passionate for just a good studio yeah yeah yeah uh they have ip is a good studio like uh blue hole blue hole yes blue point or blue hole blue hole they're um the guys that made uh pubg
Starting point is 02:31:47 announced infinite ascent infinite realm and i'm a morpiga this is somewhat of a large jump i didn't see it coming you know what i would have rather uh had what the fucking vaulting update for pubg that's coming to isn't it uh okay woolly in fact where i thought these announcements went hand in hand you guy yeah no that's coming in december the new map and then this uh maybe explain to me how this works because i it always it always confuses me there's a big kerfuffle about the developers of rust also doing something like this where development studio makes game in early access right game becomes popular like ruster pub g never leaves early access wow this looks great though it yeah it does it's a little super uh uh game gets many updates
Starting point is 02:32:38 and is still supported before game leaves early access a different game is announced yeah it's what the what the fuck it's a it's a weird kind of a hustle where you're treating early access like a safe like release you know um you can always say that you need to add more to it and that it's not quite done so you know mistakes can always still be fixed because you're not quite finished yet but we're still a company employing a bunch of people and not everyone's working on it at the same time so we got these other things going on because we got to make more we got a diverse fire portfolio no fuck it finish the fucking game i paid for no that vault update could be out now if they just threw more resources at it you're right but guess what that update looks
Starting point is 02:33:27 like the shit but but everyone working there uh that wants to ensure that they have bread on the table next year is basically yeah because pub g's doing shit yeah well most popular fucking game world in this particular instance yeah dude it's it's it's it's a it's a business decision it's not one that i think is is one that people should do i think it sucks and i i agree but uh i i i understand it because it's kind of like you know early access publicly was introduced as one thing and then turned out to be something very very very very different very different it became the name of games that have longstanding support but ship a little busted slash games that don't ever have to ship because they never really do because games don't need to
Starting point is 02:34:12 actually ship because there's there's no shipping but it's out and you pay for no physical shipping anymore so the idea of oh it's gotta go gold so it's gotta go on a in a box gold is ridiculous now in any case this game seems to have a lot going on yeah it looks like there's some dragons and guns and airships and it's a lot cool ideas that i see here the main thing it's all clashing is that uh it looks kind of a hodgepodge it's clashing and uh it looks jank but it's an mmo so but it looks less jank than pubg yeah you know which is funny because pubg looks jank as shit doesn't play jank but we're so we've seen how many types of like gameplay systems right we're seeing like an airship play now against a dragon yeah we saw gunplay we saw like third person
Starting point is 02:35:00 on the ground um i guess you know it reminds me a bit well it's an mmo right so that in some sense it makes me think a little bit of like anarchy online well the the main question is this a theme park or sandbox right you're familiar with the the difference walls instances versus uh theme parks world of warcraft or final fantasy they make content you do the content sandbox is like eve yeah right you are the content you are the content yeah our black deserts like that as well yeah those are i presumably harder to make aren't they uh yeah but they last a lot longer because the community makes its own shit for you all you do is add features add new things and you because the the problem with your theme park mmo is you make the content and people beat it and they go win in
Starting point is 02:35:43 the sex expansion because there's nothing else to do until it's done yeah all the rest has been done already yeah and you can never make content fff is like that right yeah fff is like that because most every time there's an event and you guys go talk about event name yeah most most mmo's after wow are like that eve where is a couple korean ones are notable exceptions yeah because like when people talk about event name for eve it's when that fucker stole all that money and cost a war so yeah anyway uh that is ascent infinite realm i i've forgotten the name give me the it's called ascent because you fly i know i'm just like that's it's it's it's it's skirting it's skirting the line better name than fly fly ff yeah it is fly for fun it's not final fantasy we swear uh yeah infinite
Starting point is 02:36:34 realm and ascent are words that oh you know what all of it together spelling error that's better that makes more sense that's good just call it air it came it came together at the end where you're like oh it's yeah it's actually an acronym good job guys um then we have the announcement that things exist i like things got to go fast sometimes oh boy and that includes sanic shirts that includes getting your memes in your game officially if there's anything sonic forces needs it's more memes i mean like after the twitter guy got involved like seriously though people why would this be the case people datamined a bunch of fucking sanic shirts of sonic also they also datamined that supersonic is in the game so shocker yeah so datamined something worth a yay yay on you
Starting point is 02:37:32 um you can put a shirt a funny shirt on your ugly character they're all hideous you can't make a good looking one you can but then you don't you don't deviate from anything really and they look shittier than all the existing characters the typical oc problem you know it doesn't have shitty looking characters punch planet that's a good name punch planet showed uh it's not in the new version that just came out on steam but they showed a new character like a big lizard guy so right now it just it just got yeah well right now they just dropped it on early access uh it's a four character build yeah it's the same probably same the build yeah same ish bill that we or like i mean i'm sure there's not the exact same because that was a while ago that was evil yeah yeah it's gonna have
Starting point is 02:38:15 adjustments but uh the bill that's on early access does have these four characters and the game is fucking good yeah it is uh it's it's a simple game there's not really a gimmick nope but it's a straight forward solid fighting game i fucking love that one of the characters there are there there they are robot guy and elizabeth coming soon dog yes and the character's name is dog and plays like dog um yeah uh it's just a very straightforward really fun tight looking game and and the art style is incredible um punch planet it's cool we'll probably open your eyeballs we'll probably play the channel and there's a couple more characters yeah um um there's that and then last but finally not least oh never least oh my god what's well
Starting point is 02:39:10 actually the news is actually yeah very much least oh no it doesn't get much more least oh no i don't know what the news is oh no remember nello yeah we played it a few like a year ago they released some patch notes today yes and they're working on the new things and they announced the super best skins and the super best skins consist of the three of us so nello eyes but basically it's it's a super metal album cover cyborg template just our heads have various parts that like you have dreads i have a skull on my head i can't really tell what pat has a pat has a ginger beard of anger feathers why do i got feathers it's like uh i think it's kind of like a balding hair kind of a hair thing but in a stylish way so i the forehead keeps going all the way to the back
Starting point is 02:40:07 i literally scrolled past this image earlier today and was like why am i seeing it on my feet and didn't didn't register what are you looking at i just saw who are these cool robot guys thank you for the super best support yeah well i'll read the exact oh my god yeah there you go over a year ago we ran a Kickstarter campaign to help get our project off the ground we tried to make our goal reasonable but even then we were having a tough time we had five days left in the campaign pledges were went from less from half from less than halfway funded to fully funded overnight because of the traffic and an exposure from the switcher ak super best friends play as fans of the switcher we were never expecting this we couldn't believe what was happening but here we are today
Starting point is 02:40:44 well with the project more uh further developed and it would be without us uh we made special cosmetic scenes of matt panwally show their gratitude and for their support and for all the backers help to say thank you thank you guys thanks this is super you know the oh uh i yeah i caught wind of it uh a little bit earlier i know why i got feathers because bird squad oh yeah sure okay calm yeah there you go so yeah you've got your and i'm bald i'm feathers and and you've got your your mouth beard ginger beard thing like holy holly holly holly's character is the coolest because it fits you look like a predator it fits the art style i've got visors man like it's visor dreadman i what do you want me to say you know it's it's pretty
Starting point is 02:41:32 sick and then yeah you've got your skull well he's like me the coolest you uh uh you look like uh king crimson a little bit a little small head there but yeah yeah yeah man matt very cool we got it we got to take another look at this when it's like all yeah when they feel like we should they just put out the well they just put out a another trailer with more of the like you know how the progress and the plot and yeah i saw some of the new builds like that looks like completely different better like the the the the whole the whole point the first games that have potential is just like that was that was yeah that was it was like oh this plays pretty good it's just if you have all the other stuff around it if you somehow missed us playing this last year go back
Starting point is 02:42:18 and watch best friends play nello to see what we're talking about uh it's a really cool game that mecca action game yeah and like that the blur effects never gets old everything is just fast and and it's like a schmup i forgot you can and you top view to schmup mode exactly yeah no like there's definitely some people that jumped on board this year that weren't around last year that might have missed it but in case you didn't see nello is a game that uh you should take a look at and look forward to probably look at it so so seeing that image of of us it just uh all because i forgot to talk about a little bit but william the shovel knights art book came out yeah highly recommend you pick it up just to get to all the
Starting point is 02:43:06 bass stuff yeah because it has the nice bass splash page and like i said on twitter it's like there's a certain intangible type of pride i've never felt by seeing that character there and we were both credited and it's like it's in print now it's and it's in print it's real like he was real in the game don't get me wrong i got that i got that from the record from the final he's inside the sleeve yeah yeah that and i'll just give a random plug go to bitmap books go check out what they have they recently put out the neo geo like visual compendium it is really the best art book i now own it is staggering how high quality classy it is it goes through every single box art of every neo geo game it shows production sketches of garo it shows shinkiro sketches of things i've
Starting point is 02:44:06 never seen before it has a whole section on like the the rise and and fall of neo of snk it is the most amazing thing i own in a book format what's it called it's the neo geo come our visual compendium okay bitmap books they also have a they have a variety of art books based on different systems and different companies they're amazing because this thing is i own no exaggerating probably 12 snk like art books okay so maybe you've seen some of this stuff i have almost all of it but it's all from let's say 11 and back right so anything goes out to 40 anything up to up to current well there you go i guess i gotta get it but i mean there there's also just like brand new interviews with every member of the design team like interviews with shinkiro falcoon okay more
Starting point is 02:45:00 more like information yeah yeah but the the middle section of it is like incredibly high res like like planet earth style cameras taking various screenshots of every snk piece of hardware they've ever done it is exhaustive book i loved it so much i went back to the website and i bought the super famicom box art collection it has it has is just a collection of every super famicom box art ever and i'm like some of those are much more amazing than like the american or the european ones so i bought that right away because i was so impressed with this art book yeah that's it very cool uh let's take some letters letters hey if you want to wait why don't i start talking like that that's your voice hey if you want to send a letter in to super best friendcast you'd say super best
Starting point is 02:45:52 friendcast at gmail.com thank you mickey mouse super best friendcast gmail.com i think that's a character that i'm gonna name crazy legs no crazy legs cameron sends an email hey cameron he says hey chewy fuckface and skull uh with all the recent news about loot boxes and mini buys the recurring argument about games being more expensive in general uh and would you consider uh what would you consider a fair method of mini buys if it had to be in one of your favorite games assassin's creed origins does it pretty well that's very easy to ignore and if it's there it's reasonable yeah it's very actually easy to ignore anything cosmetic and i know i know sterling hates hearing that one but personally again i know that like in a world where it's just to make me feel
Starting point is 02:46:47 like i like enjoying my costume and it has no actual change on gameplay yeah i i i don't if it's got to be there then it should be cosmetic so i have no problem with that because exactly exactly it's really for your desire to make your character look like a certain thing or like even if they have a cosmetic that charges like a premium a bit of money like it's more but if it's cool enough like i'll buy that like depending if you're into a certain game like you're gonna want to have all the skins or whatever so mario odyssey fuck it i got all three amiibos because i wanted all three of those costumes what are the costumes it's it's the wedding ensemble so you can only put mario in peach's wedding costume if you get her amiibo but that's it like there's granted mario odyssey
Starting point is 02:47:35 has a billion fucking costumes yeah they're all fun but that's like the wild tiles style stuff it seems yeah kind of well from the screenshots people have been posting i was i basically was like oh it seems like they did breath of the wild again where it's like tons of screenshots of mario mario you can only mix and match a hat and a base costume though it's not like grieves and arms and shit okay and plus there's one costume that costs 9999 coins okay but but like in previous mario games it was mario yeah yeah so um them they're getting into the world of dress up with these games now yeah uh oh man could you imagine a metroid game where you can mix and match armor pieces that'd be cool wow i actually think i'd be really bad at that because like almost all
Starting point is 02:48:20 metroid costumes are very uniform well as long as you can color edit yeah if you can color edit then that that's enough fine just just i have a million they're gonna have that they're gonna have that feature in metroid prime four and you can't see it you're never gonna see your character yeah exactly uh yeah did i answer i think you did i think you answered first you said cosmo cosmo yeah i did i did yeah okay uh we got one coming in from gary he says uh they're super best crossover combination cast what is your least favorite crossover so you fight across that uh okay necko cross cap well i think he's well he says personally mine goes to necron in soul caliber two so he's talking about gone in tec and three specific instance gone in tec
Starting point is 02:49:05 no necron in soul caliber two useless character you know what if i did is that a crossover because that's an original character it's a original character so it's more like it's just crossed over with todd mcfarrow i guess so okay so then like i'm allowed to say share as i have as a result yeah you are yes yes you are in soul caliber four four four a lot of those mania there was a waste of time yeah i can i there you go um i think also spawn was not as like he was actually spawn saw compared to the other two yeah spawn was cooler than star killer yeah but not that hey hachi and link were winners compared to spawn for sure oh yeah because they actually came from that era but also that's not true at all that's completely a lie i
Starting point is 02:49:49 just i just bullshitted that out of the air and set it with confidence go on but also why spawn sucks is because he has the more he has more potential to do crazy weird things he's got an x he's just got a generic axe yeah yeah yeah he's not great soul caliber has the the luxury of being able to pull anyone from a remotely like medieval slash fantasy setting portals easily in because yeah but guess how many characters in video games have swords and ride horses a lot you know like so where's where's fucking um someone else came in um yeah i mean you know general ram didn't really set the world on fire oh he's a great character yeah but he's just like general ram arbiter'd really didn't do so you know what you know arbiter didn't really bring that many people
Starting point is 02:50:33 to like over to k i really gameplay wise i think they're really oh yeah they remember do you remember scourge from gears of war two and what a way i don't know what a way cooler character that is i didn't play gears of war okay gears of war two has a a a thin kind of lanky predator looking guy dreads that has a darth mall style double sided chainsaw sword cool he was so much cooler than general ram but they wanted a grappler so you got a jerry grappler because he grabs the they made a character out of that one moment one moment one moment you get a grappler yep yep uh all right this is this came in a lot so i mean what's the big question here's another one here hello kaios says hello super paywall brothers hey what up i have a game for you it's called micro
Starting point is 02:51:19 transaction it pick a game you love and add micro transactions to it isn't this what we did the most disgusting one you can think of i should point out that there already exists this exact game it's called dlc quest it's a platformer came out many years ago they're asking us our suggestions an rpg where you can buy gold fable fable two yeah back on the 360 and you can buy plex and eve online and that's an mmo i i oh and they also um the show paying rpg there uh internal sonata yeah you they had a bunch of hey all of those uh fucking what is it what's that company namco is it namco what all those fucking tales rpg all those games they all have the really aggressive micro transaction shit items and consumables yeah you can buy help the only
Starting point is 02:52:09 really started that with vesperia and 360 i have one all right but i'm mixing something that exists in a current game but i'm replacing it in another game so you have your gun pointed at the boss and she's in the field yeah and then it it says pay 799 for the true ending no that's no yeah no man yeah yeah no i've got one take a sir's wrath it's gross in death in death stranding every bullet costs a quarter it's actually a stealth game you don't need to use guns to beat the game but if you want to fire the gun you gotta pick quarter if you want eva to be a companion throughout all of mgs3 pay 399 and then she'll always tag along with you and ask for food actually if you want eva well then you have to pay for because food yeah yeah 25 but if you want eva to not be a companion
Starting point is 02:53:05 for all of mgs3 you have to pay pay 30 dollars let's fuck off we hard patched her in the so once upon a time i said there's nothing worse than an underwater time discord mission yeah now i can say an underwater time discord mission where you have to pay to keep the timer going oh that's great slash the escort alive all right yeah we're done with this game i hate it uh dear ordinary worst foes says dan i recently found out that all bananas you buy at the supermarket are literally cloned and therefore genetically identical to the descendants of a single banana that's awesome presumably some bad space bounty hunter or a renowned special forces operator from the cold war in any case figuring this out has ruined my relationship with bananas knowing that i'm
Starting point is 02:53:51 essentially eating the same hopeless inbred sterile hunk of organism over and over and again well you know why that is right yes the history of a banana is simple there used to be tons of more flavorful delicious bananas back in the 70s however uh there was a uh type of um horrible plague that wiped out every banana of any kind and the only banana type that survived was the dole the most generic banana dole yeah and they were and so they cloned and basically planted that they're like well this banana's hardy as shit because it survived the plague but people that are old will tell you that bananas used to taste differently and they used to taste better because bananas to me like i can barely eat a whole banana if it's not like if it's not in
Starting point is 02:54:33 something i'm just like okay i'm done with this it's just not fun after like five bites and i'm just like no i have a really good analogy but it's spoiler so i'm just gonna shut up but yes we're you've been eating the same banana cloned it's pretty cool i idea yeah you's trying to think of it but he won't would i even know what you're talking about don't worry about it all right we'll talk about this one the podcast be the last banana um we have one coming in from someone uh david he says they're super far boys um sure um nailed it i want to see that 70 show turned into a fighting game oh man red would be a grappler yeah he would be donna's a tank yeah eric's a striker yeah um what's it come would you want a fighting game out of there's
Starting point is 02:55:29 already there's already been a fangame of a full house tournament fighter is very strong is that real yeah oh wow there's images of it at least but aside from that friends might be good all the characters look the same i think it's not a sitcom no it's not a sitcom nevermind that's gonna say scrubs dad you can get a couple of comedy i really want cheers dude cheers is good there's enough characters there there's a couple like like frazier couldn't really do it there's not enough people and like like think think like you know cliff could bring out the mailbag and he could be the item everyone has a gimmick right everyone has a gimmick hang in with mr cooper oh how many other characters were there there was mr cooper yes he's top tier and there was the person who was
Starting point is 02:56:15 hanging with mr cooper and then there's the family there's the kids i don't god i can't remember that okay well how about in the house right now you have lj all right and then it's the same thing same fucking thing you have cool top tier guy black guy and then family that he's forced to live with that is going to be the rest of the mash would be good all mash that's not a sitcom yet it's it's still it's not a sick situation is the war of course in the same but it's fine in the hilarity in every video game involves playing a role right gilligan's island you know what i mean gilligan's island professor would have all sorts of techno coconut shit i mean the obvious this is kind of fresh prince really fresh prince can do it yeah hi aw man phil has super
Starting point is 02:57:01 armor phil has super armor and suspicious uh wrist blades a big scary helmet uh no he has lucille yeah and he fights with lucille no it's a tag game and if you have uncle phil and dj jazzy jeff when you tag out he just throws out no i was not for not even that but i was gonna say you want to turn phil into anything he's got a command grab that spins you and throws you like he throws jeff okay that's better that's better come on now oh i think that's good yeah i mean i i mean i i didn't say it but i'm gonna say it sign phil yeah that's an rpg that's an rpg that's not you couldn't do it justice with a fighter uh brett wants to know what games uh did you do an lp for that would have been more enjoyable to play at home you want to know a secret a lot of them all
Starting point is 02:57:55 of them no not all of them not all of them uh not all of them it depends if we played them before or not i think i we i had more fun playing beyond two it's yeah it's different with you guys and if i had played there yeah yeah it is easier it is easier to say it the other way around which ones were more fun yeah in house all the really bad ones yes were the are way more fun to do as part of yeah um you know but when you when you can because when you're not you know at the end of the day it's like yeah the bad games become more enjoyable because they would know and you would not have sat there and laughed and enjoyed yourself on your own it's like watching a bad movie no one's going to watch bad movies by themselves at home that's pointless but good games you want to be
Starting point is 02:58:42 able to pay more attention you want to read every message you want to know every single subtle thing exactly i would go way slower and bloodborne if i didn't have a clock hanging over my head so that question is kind of like the answer is is like most good games if i thought yeah any game that's okay most good games and all bad games yeah so yeah there you go uh meme dream says dear super best mecha suitors i was recently watching the big o on blu-ray notice they took out the original intro um that's a shame because that song is so good uh my question for you guys is what re-release of something took out content from the original that disappointed or angered you i talk a lot about this but uh metroid prime trilogy it's fucking sucks because i know it's the
Starting point is 02:59:26 easiest way to get all those games and i know it's convenient and i know it's worth money before the reprint but when you boot it up and you go to metroid prime one two and three you do not get the menus for those respective which are all awesome which are the some of the best music on the soundtrack and some of the best menus ever made right you only get the game start like right away you get you get select each game and then you just start you miss the incredible menu work that was done on those all three metroid prime games and that fucking kills me so i don't care about that trilogy too much uh you're missing out on like the actual quality of the games if you play silent hill hd collection oh yeah sound effects are are mixed up there's like uh you know atmosphere is fucking
Starting point is 03:00:12 changed because all the games are fucked up fucking garbage i'm trying to think of what lost content is there and like aside from metroid i can't think of i can think of one what the fucking pop song at the beginning of dragon's dogma is not there in dark arisen how about that release that fucking catchy horrible song the wind is pushing me like first suck yeah it's suck but guess what everybody destructible yeah indestructible too like it caught on and it leached into your heart oh i fucking forgot about indestructible i fucking forgot about it did it did it there uh so there's a mod on pc that you can put the fucking song back in it's the it's one of the only mods for dragon's dogma drop the file in the fucking menu thing fucking don't open
Starting point is 03:01:08 uh those are both capcom games those are yeah those are both like hey let's let's sign the deal oh okay it's gone now oh forgot about did he have anything to do with dragon's dogma no no absolutely not i want to feel like he did well if he did then good for him gave him advice but dragon's dogma was very much as an old music composer he pushed his his connections yeah maybe uh but that's all it's soon us baby uh dragon's dogma uh and we'll take one from uh opi he says embrace the nineties mm-hmm they're different people i know i know i got i got the easy thing you're going for because the brain goes goes anthony one two um i should have said house anthony yeah i wish i could go back in time and correct this mistake for you no house faunsey embrace the
Starting point is 03:01:59 nineties um sure i do every day what's your favorite flash game thanks flash game flash game oh i know mine okay oh that's tough uh what a good question good i don't know does it involve a certain jake man sure sure booty call series played shit loads of that mm-hmm i can see that uh for me just by sheer number of like hours i spent playing it it would have to be n mm m n n okay so before n plus and then plus plus it was a flash game called n and i i played it like every single day kitty cannon is another one for a very long time i played a lot where you launched a kitty and uh you tried to zowzow is not a game so that doesn't really count yeah by the time it became a game it sucks nude does not count it was not flash uh it's for me it's not even close it's a winnie the pooh
Starting point is 03:02:59 oh that's java script isn't it oh is it i think so because it feels too new think it's too no oh come on it might be flash i might be wrong is that fucking flash i'll look at it i think it's i think it's flash i think it's flash i think you're right i think it's flash okay yeah absolutely christopher robin fucking hell satan spawned whenever i get like depressed i go play that game yeah and it makes me more depressed and it doesn't work and i don't know why i do that but um yeah and then flash died so that's the end of that it's unsafe browser plugin fuck it um there was that there was that there was that uh spongebob racing game it is it is yeah there was that spongebob racing game that was like you drive this car and it's just impossibly hard
Starting point is 03:03:44 it like i don't know it's it's no it is described it's a platformer and you drive sideways and controlling the car is just so difficult you're you're having fun thinking because liam showed me this when we were talking about the home run derby and it was just like we got on a whole kick of like games made for children that are just possibly hard because of how poorly made they are yeah you know and it was like it was so enjoyable because it was like what child has a chance has a chance of getting past the first i'd like to give a runner-up trophy to frog fractions sure i also believe his main friend sure sure sure yep yep yep uh okay well um now jake you can't talk to that guy he fucks all types of girls where are you man i'm gonna talk to him available on the romp.com
Starting point is 03:04:39 no romp or heavy it was romp it was romp.com romp.com oh god heavy is the one we always talk about romp no way heavy heavy still around and it's i don't know if it's the biggest flash thing ever i don't think it used to be the heaviest flashlight in existence with the fucking sumo logo yeah um so what's coming up what's coming up is anyone going to see justice league i guess we should i guess i should i didn't like do i have to yeah no you don't but you didn't you also got out of c and alien covenant i think you should only get out of one of these per year yeah this is a rule you're making up yeah sure am because this is this is a devil's bargain yeah i there's honestly blood on this table
Starting point is 03:05:32 guess what you gotta see it then yeah you gotta see it i saw batman superman way later so yeah no well we gotta have a yeah but you already didn't see covenant it's seen covenant what is hey stop push you stop using alien covenant for more no i gotta get some use out of it don't you sure do you got the enjoyment of watching that feature film no i didn't i know you didn't anyway you know in a world where you spent money on the emoji movie yeah i suppose oh yeah i forgot about that yeah i took that bullet for the team no one talked about it yeah the bullet had someone's name on it and it was gonna be me you fired the gun you fired the gun with your own face bullet oh man fired it right into my mouth anyway um any other big games coming out this week the star wars come out this
Starting point is 03:06:20 week yeah who cares it doesn't matter yeah no it's not even not even gonna play it for the channel like who gives a shit i just i'll continue playing um uh s asses create origins i'll probably boot up um wolfenstein this week uh let's uh i'm gonna keep playing disney gonna try to and marvel finish off sonic mania marvel re am redoubling efforts of course and um i really yeah like um yeah when i just want to like sit there and not think about anything darkest dungeon is really good yeah that game i can just zone the fuck out and it's and i just and there's always new voice clips that i never heard and it's really good also getting further into the game dude you're like like you're when you're getting until you know you know like everyone dies all
Starting point is 03:07:08 the time and you just barely get to like level three or four or whatever you get it you start doing like the medium rain difficulty dungeons and mechanics tutorials are still being introduced oh man like there's shit that you don't even get wind of until like you step up to the medium difficulty dungeons and stuff so yeah that game uh i'm gonna continue playing a lot more of that uh coming up on the channel what's what we got uh we got we got scary spooky games more more silent hill and more sass more sass great and we're gonna get to um we're gonna get to um start new lps right i'm not sure i'm not sure we should start this week if you're going again next week sure uh i'm gonna just end because then we'll have a couple episodes and then it'll be
Starting point is 03:07:52 like hey wait a week you fuck so maybe just someone else this week yeah probably start those new lps next week yeah we'll start those new lps next week sounds but silent hell's good though boy we're blowing through that fucking game super fast we sure blow yeah oh is that it i think that's that's what i was gonna go for because it was the wind blowing either you know perhaps i coveted that wind so so you

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