Castle Super Beast - SBFC 223: "Janeway Really Is Captain Fuck-It"

Episode Date: November 21, 2017

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Starting point is 00:01:15 trivial mistakes that build up until one mega mistake. Yeah, they combine. It's like, oh, I didn't gas the car. Then I didn't get snow tires. Then I forgot to learn how to drive. And then you need a car. Yeah. And then it's like, uh-oh. Guess grandma's not getting to the hospital. I guess she's dead. She has one of those munchers. Oops. I guess there's one of those munchers. Speaking of, man. I guess one of those muncher all winters, like, I'm gonna go to a movie this week and it's like, it's gonna be like the last time I went to a movie in the winter, where people died that night in their cars because they waited for help and it never came. I was telling two snacks about that. And then, like, I heard his airplane leave
Starting point is 00:02:04 as soon as I finished talking. He's like, people die from the cold. I'm like, yeah. It's cold. People die from the cold when they are killed. Snacks. Do you know what cold is? No one's died from heat ever. Never. Thousands of people die every second due to cold. Unfortunately, two snacks has left us, has gone back to his native Brazil. Yeah. He will be missed. He was super fun. He was. He did some things. Now, unfortunately, folks, oh, well, he can't be here right now.
Starting point is 00:02:31 He is attending to some family members. Family matters. Not the show. Not the show. No. And also, while we're talking about that, for the coming couple weeks of the channel, editing is going to go back to being garbage. Everything's kind of burning down around us. Yeah. Unfortunately, Billy or Sushin said on Twitter has become extremely ill and is going to have to take some time off. So give him your best wishes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:02 And I hope you enjoy the, so you hear any mistakes that are happening with the audio version of this podcast. Expect those on the channel in the coming weeks. So it's like you're the dog in the house and it's on fire and you're like, it's fine. But I'm outside the window looking at you on fire, but I'm also on fire outside the house. And you're also saying it's fine. I'm saying it's fine. You're saying it leaves something to be desired. Like the last couple of Silent Hill episodes I edited to take a bit of the load off of Billy,
Starting point is 00:03:36 but like that was OK. But like. Did anyone notice? Uh, I put in a thing that every time you said, hmm, I'm going to think about this puzzle. I then have big, huge texts that says mysterious cut. All right. See, that's fun. That's fun. That's fun. Oh, man, those puzzles are hard as shit, man. They were and they were like two or two or three.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Well, one of the puzzles is I couldn't find a room. That's a puzzle. That's a puzzle. That's a puzzle any day of the week. Oh, man. You know, hey, speaking of days of the week. Yes.
Starting point is 00:04:11 See what I did there? No, no. Hey, man, what's up? How was your week? Matt, I still don't get the correlation because there are days in a week. I watched the Punisher. Yeah. On Netflix, I finished it.
Starting point is 00:04:24 And I figured you were going to talk about that. I'm not going to talk about it too much, actually. Is it like Super easy to spoil? If you're familiar with the point, if you're not familiar with the Punisher, it's hard to spoil. Okay. But if you're even slightly familiar with the Punisher. Oh, you have to be more than slightly familiar for it to spoil
Starting point is 00:04:45 because it's like you have to realize that that character's real name is that. For it to be a spoiler. It's stuff like that. Is Barracuda there? I can. I'll know. Season two. Barracuda is a character that I'm going to say needs some retooling before you put it into my back.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Can only exist in that form in a comic book? Written by an Irishman. Garthanness. But I came away mostly satisfied with the Punisher. It's not a home run. It has the same problem as pretty much every Marvel Netflix show. Since third level season one. Since all of them, which is these don't need to be this long.
Starting point is 00:05:24 So it's nine, right? It's 13. No, Stranger Things two was fucking nine. And that was perfect. Nine seems like the right number. 13. You could cut out two episodes, three maybe by taking out this awful not awful subplot. But subplot is just not interesting because the main story thread of the show is good.
Starting point is 00:05:46 I enjoyed it. And I'm like, all right, that's fine. But they put in this thing where it's like every fucking show like maybe not Jessica Jones had a subplot per se, but they all go on Jones didn't have a subplot that screwed it up. Jessica Jones had a point in the story where the story ends and then they go, we can get a couple more episodes out of this. This is what this is like around episode nine and 10. The story stops to explain this other story that has been threaded through.
Starting point is 00:06:20 And it really clumsily like first date trying to get bra off clumsily. Matt today clumsily of, hey, let's try to tie in the sideplot into the main thread. Browser guard, dude, don't worry about it. I'm just done. Oh, I just hit the goddamn microphone. That's a jackass. And it just it just doesn't do it a great job.
Starting point is 00:06:43 But once that's over, then the last two episodes after that are fantastic. All right. Now I have a couple of questions. Yes. One. Question one. McGinty does not explode. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:06:55 I was somewhat worried that Punisher would have too much murder. That it would be like every episode they had like an HBO style quotient for. Frank has to kill 30 guys by the end of the runtime. Yeah. Do they actually let like him just be a character for episodes? That's for. Yes. For for long stretches of time.
Starting point is 00:07:21 That's actually really my only. Never too long. It's like action, big action scene with him in the start kills a couple dudes. Big action scene towards the middle kills a couple dudes. Yeah. Towards the end kills a bunch more dudes. Yeah. But it's never like this is too much.
Starting point is 00:07:39 It's never like Punisher Warzone or whatever. Because like of all of all the like Daredevil season two had most like a shit ton of Punisher in it. But and he kills a ton of people in that. In a short amount of time. Some of which off screen. Work needs to be done. By far the best scene about how he's a crazy man is the one in the diner. Yes.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Where it's just some guy. Yeah. And it's like what is it like two people. And he's just sitting at the diner. There's a similar thing where he's in a non combat situation with no guns. And there's like three or four dudes and like yeah that you know it just goes like that. But like as the show goes on like at the start he's kind of he doesn't talk to anyone. He's like please don't talk to me.
Starting point is 00:08:22 I have to grunt and break this wall over here because he's in construction now. I'm going to grunt and think about the kids and the wife while I smash this wall. And this wall will smashing this wall will get my shoulders and biceps very big for later murder. But as it goes on he's he starts making little little jokes. He starts going you son of a bitch and hit punching people in the shoulder or whatever. But it's never too much. It's never but like he's I said this on Twitter. Like if you want to see the Punisher killed cool dude kill evil dudes in cool ways.
Starting point is 00:08:59 You're not going to really enjoy the show. That's all you want. Yeah. That's it. OK. That's yeah that's that's about everything. That's more pretty much exactly what I expected. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:10 I think it's like in the top three of I don't not maybe not a number one. It's in the top three of the Netflix. I've never watched. I believe it's pronounced Iran fist. I don't really know how to say it and the defenders. I don't have no point of reference. I watched like I was done after Daredevil season two. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:33 Like all that ninja shit and then every single trailer for every new thing was like hey you like ninjas like I the Marvel ninjas are kind of boring. The hand the hand is then the comics. The hand that was more interesting than the Marvel Netflix versions but whatever. Well because in the movies in the movies and the fucking in the shows they literally just stock ninjas for most of the time and like season one and two of Daredevil and defenders have like them all over the place but even though I watched two of those shows like do they even have a goal or is it just evil ninjas just take over the world.
Starting point is 00:10:13 I don't know. Like in the comics the hands are literally zombies. They have green glowing eyes and they kind of decompose when they're like vampires. Okay. And at least in least in what I read and they will zombify other people and they'll be under their trance. Cool shit like that. I mean that's hinted a little bit in Daredevil but whatever Punisher could not have less.
Starting point is 00:10:35 I don't think they mention any other hero. They don't even mention Daredevil. Like you remember out in Daredevil or whatever they would be like oh like the big guys downtown or like yeah like someone mentions Thor or whatever. Yeah. Oh hammer. But it's weird because there's two sides to the Punisher. So it's written by this guy or this guy.
Starting point is 00:10:57 It's never the other continuity must not exist or like if it does exist it's jokes. Like man the whole the Russian made the whole cry. Well it's like Frank couldn't be farther away. But then when he's brought in like now Frank in the comics has war machine's armor and killing everybody. Well because the problem with that is always been like nearly every single working superhero looks at Frank and goes that guy's a psycho. I'm trying to think of which characters were like you're the best and I assume it's like
Starting point is 00:11:35 Ghost Rider Wolverine and that's it. Yeah. Sure. You know I want to go right there's love murder. I want to Ghost Rider Netflix show. I wish he would get out of Agents of Shield because Ghost Rider is the dumbest. Like Ghost Rider is way dumber than Punisher. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Therefore he's slightly even better than the Punisher. You're not going to get Nick Cage. No I don't want Nick Cage. So who do you want. I want okay because they have him in the Agents of Shield show which is a younger guy named Robbie Reyes who has it in the show in Agents of Whatever whatever it's called Agents of Shield. I almost was going to correct you and say oh Agents of Mayhem. It's like no that's that shitty evolution game.
Starting point is 00:12:18 He has a motorcycle but his design is based on the Ghost Rider that has like a Dodge Charger and that's like cooler than a motorcycle to me. You can run somebody over a lot easier. You can do a lot more damage with the fucking car. And I want to see a Netflix show with that character Robbie Reyes not Johnny Blaze which is Nick Cage's character. It's young Latino 20-something year old that's fighting for his neighborhood. All right so it's John Leguizamo.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Young. Yeah no just de-age him with the with the man from CGI. Not that much. If they can if they can CGI off Henry Calville's stupid fucking mustache. You want to fuck it. I want to talk about this somewhere. I want to talk about that. Yeah I didn't watch it so I don't I don't watch it.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Maybe I'm going to watch it maybe tonight or tomorrow but I think that's amazing and it's so bad and embarrassing that it's like I will give Justice League an automatic five out of ten for that. The fact that someone thought that would be okay is amazing. Well you know who thought that would be okay. Fucking Henry Calville or Cavill. No it's it's said I'm not fucking shaving my mustache. To be fair the movie this movie studio is like you will not shave the mustache.
Starting point is 00:13:36 I gotta. Do you know what would be easier. Yeah we keep hitting this. That's fine. Well this thing is all over. You'd be easier than CGIing a fake mustache onto a real man guy just putting on a fake mustache for the other movie. Yeah but I'll leave those other other movies made by a different studio.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Yeah maybe they don't have as much money I don't know. Then just staple a real like fake mustache onto his lip. No but I'm so here's your man of steel won't hurt him. Here's the mental image I imagine in my head. That was so bad. It's hey can I shave my mustache for the Justice League reshoots. Fuck that motherfucker. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:13 I wouldn't know fake mustache in my movie for your fucking Superman shit. So I'm sure you've read about this but you know aside from Punisher like I played a few games but nothing really new nothing super exciting but like what do you think about I mean I'm sure you've heard about this where it's like when Superman shows spoilers Superman's alive when he's when he shows up he's smiling and happy and he's like I'm Superman everyone I'm doing it now. So I was watching the Red Letter Media thing for Justice League like an hour ago. Yeah and like are you happy with that or are you still like that sucks.
Starting point is 00:14:53 I fucking forgot that Joss Whedon got brought in to punch it up. That's Joss Whedon or it's someone saying you got to stop making Superman. Which means this miserable fuck every DC movie lately has been plagued with like bizarre editorial and directing problems. Yeah so like Suicide Squad was like the worst even before that like fucking Batman versus DC Batman versus DC I'd watch that would fucking win. I don't know if you'd have enough prep time for that. No but it's like versus the franchise.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Yeah. Not that no not the characters the franchise. No but Batman versus Superman had like an hour of the movie cut. Yeah there's the ultimate addition the ultimate Snyder. There's the really really well publicized like clusterfuck that happened with Suicide Squad. Just chopped and screwed to all hell. And with pop music thrown over and funny titles. All my fucking scenes like Jared Leto was so pissed off and I think his Joker is fucking terrible
Starting point is 00:16:02 but like he was saying that like four out of five scenes that he shot as the Joker got cut. Yeah. And that's fucked up. That's fucked up. That's so fucking fucked up. And also. You get this big actor and you make him do all the the shit and then you cut it all out of the fucking movie.
Starting point is 00:16:19 Because I've seen Jared Leto one or two things where he actually he has a really weird role and he's quite good at it or whatever. But not more than that. And when I heard he was going to be it was the same thing as Heath Ledger where I'm like that's a odd pick but whatever it doesn't matter anymore. But for for for him he's not even allowed to be in the Joker origin movie. What. There's two other Joker movies.
Starting point is 00:16:44 There's three other Joker movies coming out. Are you serious. There's so fucking bad. Shut up. Shut up. DC knows what they're doing. There's the Joker origin movie that's being produced by a fucking taxi. Gangs in New York.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Martin Scorsese. OK. And it's going. Oh god. Yeah you're right. It's going to be his origin story. Then there's the Joker and Harley movie. Then there's Suicide Squad 3.
Starting point is 00:17:17 So he's only going to be in all three. Wait Suicide Squad 3. Sorry. Yeah I'm sure there's a third one being cooked up. But Jared Leto is not allowed to be in the origin movie. That's fucking. It has to be somebody else apparently. That's fucking stupid.
Starting point is 00:17:34 But he's allowed to be the other because he's cast for that. Because that because the origin story is in the past. Oh that's so. But you know what's weird. We saw the Joker origin movie in Suicide Squad. They had a scene or like he described his origin. Yeah but that's fake. He fell into some garbage.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Yo. Soup. Whatever. So then you heard about the thing where it's like. He saw that interview where it's Jason Momoa. Who now I like. I think I like him as Aquaman. I think when I watch a movie I'm going to be like yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:07 That's an Aquaman. That's an Aquaman. That's a water boy. There's this interview with him and I think Cyborg and like Ben Affleck. And they're like oh so what are you. Interviews like hey so what do you like. What's going on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:21 And then Jason Momoa just goes oh man. I'm going to fucking host SNL. It's been my lifelong dream. I can't wait to do it. I'm going to do it. I'm going to get on that boat. I'm going to fucking do it. I'm going to get on the SNL boat I'm going to do.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Oh I'm so excited. And Ben Affleck's like wow you're really excited. That's cool. And they're like Ben how do you feel about Batman. He's like I don't know. I will see. And that's it. So now there's a rumor swimming around.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Because not only did Ben Affleck kind of a skis ball right. We all know this. But not only was the movie he was going to direct on Batman like got canceled. And not only did they cancel at least the script. And they're redoing the whole thing. And they got the guy that's directed a bunch of the Planet of the Ace movies in Cloverfield.
Starting point is 00:19:12 He's going to be doing it now. And now apparently I read like this report where he's like I'm talking to Jake Gyllenhaal for something I can't say. And they're like Ben Affleck's like I want out now. That's the rumor because you guys didn't want me to direct. You guys didn't want me to write it. So I'm fucking done. The whole deal that he took with WB was like I'll be Batman.
Starting point is 00:19:39 I get to direct a fucking Batman movie. I'm not sure if you've seen them. But the couple of movies that I've seen where Ben Affleck's directed them are fucking banger movies. They're super good like Argo. And the town was really good. The town is awesome. There's there's another one or two.
Starting point is 00:19:57 There's like that gangster movie whatever. I never saw that one. But like I'm like he's a better director than he is an actor. Ben and he does OK as Batman. He really does. But whatever. I know like there's apparently a scene where he falls in love with Wonder Woman. Great.
Starting point is 00:20:13 Where she does the Paige Madison thing. Or whatever. What's her name. I don't know who the fuck. Madison Madison. From have you read. Yes. She does the things like oh you're her Batman.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Yeah you're the only one of us that can be hurt like a bitch Batman. I mean Flash. Yeah but he won't. He won't be. He's too fast. That's the fucking deal. Who's going to punch Flash. Quicksilver.
Starting point is 00:20:37 Yeah sure Superman. Yeah fine. Yeah he is. I suppose Batman could set up a trap. Yeah slow trap. You know there's like that thing where it goes so fast. If I have a force field. That's really good.
Starting point is 00:20:55 But if you try to shoot me it's going to bang off because anything reaching above this velocity will. Oh the Stargate. The Scar. Stargate. The Stargate SG-1 tech. Yeah. That's how their shields work.
Starting point is 00:21:06 Or like Punisher 2099. I think they said the exact same thing. So that episode really got to shoot half the war with the arrow. Bang bang bang. Oh my bullets. And they're like ha ha ha. I was like look I got this knife. What.
Starting point is 00:21:18 You're straight up talking about the SG-1 episode. I'm sure I am. Where O'Neill throws the fucking. Cause Hathor is like you're going to defy a god and then MacGyver says I'm thinking about it. Just throws a knife into his hand. MacGyver. He gets this horrible shot.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Where it cuts to a fucking spin shot of the knife in here. And then it cuts to Hathor with his hand up. Man. Unfortunately Punisher 2099 predates it by several years. Yeah. Sure. SG-1 is like the least fucking creative thing ever. But yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:50 It's just Star Trek within the modern day. I guess it is. And with a smaller crew. And every planet looks just like the forest right outside of Vancouver. Yeah. But they have no problems fucking it up. They don't have problems fucking up whatever worlds they're in. Man.
Starting point is 00:22:04 No. I thought you meant the series. Cause Stargate SG-1 is like oh man. It had the SG-1. Did they want to fuck planets up? No. No. They wanted to make the planets good.
Starting point is 00:22:14 Yeah. But they don't care if they fuck them up. No. They care. There's no prime directors. And then there was like a other. Oh no. They fucking spit in that shit.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Yeah. Yeah. They show up to these fucking planets and go your culture is fucking dumb. Sometimes they dial up a planet and then just spit through the gate. Oh yeah. I saw that. There's a. I spit on your planet.
Starting point is 00:22:34 They're fucking golfing into the fucking abyss and shit. We were saying on a podcast you weren't here for. Me and Willie were saying what if it's Stargate 26-25 or whatever 2.556. Whatever it's for. And then it just shows the enterprise drifting through space with phasers shooting in every direction. Why? Cause fuck the prime director.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Oh yeah. Just. Just. Stargate 25-6 two of them. Will we continue to smoke motherfucker? Just Captain fuck it. Wipe out. It's Captain Wipeout.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Captain Wipeout's behind the behind the helm of the enterprise. Still would have been better. You know what? Fuck it. That's Janeway. Oh dude. Janeway is Captain fuck it. And Captain Wipeout.
Starting point is 00:23:21 Hey. Just imagine. Okay. You saw Star Trek into darkness right? Hell yeah I did. That would be sucks. Dude you remember the big warship that Robocop piloted. Yeah I do.
Starting point is 00:23:33 Remember it was big and black and shot. So evil. That's what I'm saying. Like that's what I want Star Trek to be. At least you know what? Okay. Like at least one episode of whatever series should have like a what if like Time Nebula.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Oh let's look into another version of ourselves. And I want to see the enterprise drifting through space shooting photon torpedoes at everything that moves. There are two episodes that are like that. One is the one where they meet the fucking ship from the original series that comes through a time portal. And they get into that fucking alternate universe where they're at war with the Klingons.
Starting point is 00:24:09 Yes. And it's in season three because Tasha's alive. Of course she is. And they're like they're like oh we gotta fix this. Yeah what's the other one. And the other one is called. Forget the fucking name of it. Is it in TNG?
Starting point is 00:24:25 Yeah it's TNG. It's like season four or five and that's where they accidentally super fuck up and open up a portal to all dimensions simultaneously in this one little pocket of space and like there's like a billion enterprises all over the place. Yeah that sounds familiar. And then there's the one super shitty enterprise that Riker's piloting. Yeah yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:49 And what happened in that universe is they never had the idea to go get Lecutis in Best of Both Worlds. So the Borg are just kicking everyone's ass and he's freaking out going we're not going back there. And he just starts shooting at all the other enterprises. Okay that's close. That's close. But I just want like we're about taking over.
Starting point is 00:25:12 Like just. So it's called Parallels and it's like one of the worst TNG episodes ever. Awesome. It's so fucking bad. It's not as good as Evolution or whatever. I think that's a season three fucking premiere. So a few nights ago it's like I couldn't sleep. And then it was like well I'll just turn something on you'll fall asleep.
Starting point is 00:25:28 I'm like fine go to TNG. And like then I see the the barrel bouncing off Wharf again. I can't. And you're at the problem with this. Is that you know what knew it was really bad. After that scene the episode is really boring. You know like after that hilarity it's actually just arguing with Riker. Just everyone telling Riker just do just do what you think.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Well it's a pretty classic like moral conundrum space culture episode. It is but there's nothing going on in the episode other than that. Then there's just a crusher arguing at the fucking new hot dot one. That's not hot but like the new doctor on the scene that's like I can just reconstruct his spinal cord out of plastic. And then Beverly's like that's stupid. I think that episode is fucking awful not just because it's boring. But the whole episode is about hey my friend is from this fucking warrior alien culture.
Starting point is 00:26:23 He is from an alien culture right. Riker can speak some Klingon. Right and he served on a Klingon ship. Man this is such a no woolly episode. Oh hell yeah it is he can't stop us now. Yeah. Okay so he served on a Klingon ship right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:39 He gets it. He he understands and in Wharf's culture it's super important that he kills himself because he's super crippled right. Yes. And Riker and he's like Riker you're my best friend. And then Picard says Klingons choose their friends very carefully. You should be honored. Right.
Starting point is 00:27:00 So that but Riker's like I'm a regular guy from fucking Alaska Alaska Alaska. I don't I'm not going to stab my for this is fucked up. And you know they have a big fight over it and it's a big deal. And the question's really and it's looming and then a magical doctor comes in and gives him a new spine and he's completely fine. Yeah. Like holy shit shouldn't that have been a different character so that that storyline could have actually had a resolution.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Because like Wharf is too major of a character they would never. Yeah because it's Wharf you know he's going to be fine by the end of it. Yeah yeah you need a Klingon ship. But it's like way to just like who the question doesn't fucking matter now because the answer was just get a new spine. And what's stupid is that I bet Wharf was still angry. Yeah this spine has no honor. What type of plastic did you use all we use this time that plastic has no honor.
Starting point is 00:27:55 A fucking bit. There's a high percentage of Alexander in that episode. Oh who sucks. Where he fucking cries to to a Troy and Troy's is like your father takes us very seriously and he goes is this that stupid Klingon shit. I fucking hate your Klingon shit my mom told me you didn't have to. The only good episode that ever had Alexander in it is when it has all older badass Alexander. From the future.
Starting point is 00:28:26 That's like oh I'm gonna punch myself so hard because I'm such a shit. Yeah I was just going to mention that there's the episode where Wharf's son comes back from the future and goes I'm a fucking badass I'm gonna teach myself to be a fucking badass early so that you don't get murdered. And that's like why don't you just stop it yourself you time-traveling idiot. No that's what he's doing. Yeah he does end up doing that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:50 But then but then Wharf's like no son you have to let yourself be a fucking pussy. You're a human. Fucking no. Oh god is Alexander even in deep so I don't even fucking remember. I well Wharf was in a bunch of Deep Space Nine. Wharf is in more than half of Deep Space Nine. So Alexander has to show up for one episode. I think he's fucking back on earth living with the grandparents.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Man if you're okay all right you're okay. What if you're stuck on a planet with with Wesley and Alexander. Is this like the worst fuck Mary kill ever. No not no it's just like how would that play out. It play out like okay Alexander would be like I hate it and then Wesley would be like I need to summon some magical technical bullshit to get the water out of that fucking magic fountain. And then I would kill myself. I think I think you killing yourself just so you don't have to be there is the optimal scenario.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Oh man that's good who's the shittiest character from fucking Deep Space Nine that we can throw into that fucking pile. I really hate O'Brien. Oh I love O'Brien. I won't begrudge anyone that likes O'Brien but I also really hate O'Brien. I love O'Brien. I bet you I hate O'Brien more on TNG and on Deep Space Nine I don't mind him as much. Well he's actually a real character on TNG.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Yeah because on TNG all he does is shove his potatoes down Akihiko's throat. Yeah. And then she's like no try this sushi and he's like no. I think that's Deep Space Nine actually. That happens in TNG for sure. Oh fuck are you serious? Yeah yeah yeah there's a whole episode where he's like why can't why are we eating this fucking slob. Well the reason the reason why I love O'Brien is that O'Brien is the only character in like
Starting point is 00:30:46 fucking Star Trek who's like a fucking normal ass working man kind of he's like a regular person. There's also that episode where he's really racist against Kardashians. Yeah yeah he is. And that you shouldn't even be on the Enterprise if you're that racist. That's why he's a non-commissioned officer and not a commissioned officer because you didn't go to fucking Starfleet Academy. Okay nevermind. Because if he had gone to Starfleet Academy that would have been like hey do you fucking hate
Starting point is 00:31:12 Kardashians? Which races do you hate? You know I fucking hate the Kardashians and I fucking hate the Ferengi and if I see one I'll fucking shoot him. Gotta be. Potato. Now you need to be fair when a Ferengi is on the view screen you can always see Picard's like fist clenching slightly shit.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Oh man the Ferengi took such a fucking face turn from the first time they show up in TNG. TNG they're fucking they're hobgoblins and they have whip guns. Yeah yeah yeah. That fucking stupid shit and they and they they uh they uh they hit on everything and anything. Doesn't matter what race. That shit where they're like I can't believe you're so shameless uh what is it shameless is to clothe your females and then you can undress them with your eyes and every character in Star Trek looks at them and goes the fuck you talking about that's the weirdest shit.
Starting point is 00:32:10 You're oh man. Anyway what what what what did you do this week? Oh man I don't I don't I watch Fun Fun. It's flooding my fucking brain now okay. You watched Star Trek. Let me I didn't I just every year I rewatch Star Trek. I gotta get back on the Orville. That's actually really fantastic um let's see.
Starting point is 00:32:31 As for games I actually played uh surprisingly uh Matt a huge amount of Destiny 2 like I hit that I turn that corner and like you know when you play you you touch a game and you're like and then you go no man I'm gonna do it. It's like in whatever RPG you just start you I'm gonna beat the optional boss or what have you. Sort of. Here's Pat's review ongoing review of Destiny 2. Boy it's exactly the game Destiny 1 should have been.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Every complaint that everyone ever had about Destiny 1. Oh Destiny 2 actually made it a like good game instead of a bad game. Did they really need a 2? Yeah they really needed one. But couldn't they have just made is there any of these changes or whatever that make it better couldn't have not just been applied to the film. So some of them did show up. Because wasn't Destiny 1 supposed to be like a 15 year game?
Starting point is 00:33:20 So Destiny 1 did get like significant mechanical changes in season 2 and 3. Which is what they call the years basically. Yeah. Or whatever. But I remember reading up and life from behind the scenes like interviews with people that remained anonymous. It's like right their pipeline on Destiny 1 for making assets was just completely fucked up. And I believe that it's one of those development situations
Starting point is 00:33:49 where they're like we want to add something to the level. And it's like well the level takes an hour to decompile. Then you make the change. Then it takes two hours to recompile. And this is any change. Yeah any change. Like it's not a stat. So it's like kind of like astonishing that the game even shipped.
Starting point is 00:34:04 Yeah. And two is like the areas are a lot more interesting. Like honestly I'm very disappointed I think everybody is that the old areas and stuff was not rolled in to this one. Yeah I bet. But. It's like Street Fighter Alpha 1. There's no reason for it to have really existed now that we have this one.
Starting point is 00:34:28 It's like Mass Effect 1. No. No it's like Assassin's Creed 1. I am not sure if you know this. But like I've been really I want to get my hands on a hard copy or whatever download of Assassin's Creed 1 because on Xbox One it runs in 4K now. Ubisoft patched it. That's fucking weird.
Starting point is 00:34:49 I want to just. Hey guess what I bet that game looks amazing. You play Origins. I play Origins. I want to just go back and be like I want it. I bet you this will make me think this will make me think Origins is like even better than it is. That's 10 years ago. It is.
Starting point is 00:35:05 But at the same time it's like even Assassin's Creed 1. We all knew that like there could be more going on with this game because it's just nothing. Remember the shit where it's like turn off everything. Turn off all of the HUD. Just use the sounds of the marketplace to guide you. Shove it marketplace man. This is always I remember when we talked about this the first time you were like that's bullshit. You can actually do that in Origins because of the eagle.
Starting point is 00:35:30 But like. Wait what's this. In Origins you can turn all the HUD off. But since you have Senu to ping things on on the area. I suppose you're right. It actually there's no mini map. Like now that's actually kind of viable but it still sucks. But.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Back in the day like fuck. But the land mess is so more massive than Assassin's Creed 1. Yeah man. It's real big. Man I gotta. I saw playing that for a few days and I'm like a hand starts shaking a little bit. I'm like I need to get back because I don't want it to be too long before I forget everything. Well every wall I play I feel like I'm like halfway through.
Starting point is 00:36:05 Okay. And I'm like I'm doing the thing that I do it's like I'm doing like I'm you know the masses abided in like 20 zones. Yeah. I'm showing up in the zone that the story tells me to go to and then I do every single fucking thing in that zone and then just crush the story missions. Everything you can or like you won't do stuff that's like out of your level. All of it and nothing's out of my level now.
Starting point is 00:36:28 No but when it was it never. If you do all the activities in an area. If you max out an area. You are you are. Okay. Way way beyond. Because I'm always like three or four levels below or wherever it says. Like level 40 is the cap in that game.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Yeah. Feels like there's enough like experience in the game to get to like level 55. I like here's here's the other thing like the Anubis God challenge is over and I attempted that like I described last time and it was just never going to happen because I was like level 14 and it's supposed to be a level 40 fucking boss fight. I like just throw the armor there on the store. I'll buy it when it's Anubis. When it's God armor.
Starting point is 00:37:11 I'll buy it. Shame on you Matt. Sure. I'm wagging my finger. I'll take I'm currently wagging my finger. You know it's not a very serious wag coming from me. It's kind of like me. So I'm wagging.
Starting point is 00:37:22 I read someone that's like hey you know what I really like about this. This is out of the screen that it's side quests remind me a lot of the Witcher. Yes they do. And it did not at all to me except until I got to meeting up with your old friend near the hippodrome. Yep. And that whole thing. That side quest is so good.
Starting point is 00:37:42 Which is not related to the main plot at all. There's nothing to do with shit. Was so much more involved than I and I'm like oh okay yeah these missions sir. So the the main problem with the AC origin side quest compared to like say a Witcher side quest is there a little too in world and a little too serious. Like oh the bandits I don't know what this voice is but oh the bandits are taking our shit. No it's it's like when there's a grieving mom and there's dead bodies around you're
Starting point is 00:38:08 like oh what what is the problem. And then she's just like oh there's a guy that killed my things. The general flow of like how a mass effect or like a a dragon age or like any modern RPG or Witcher right yeah is you have your setup for your quest then you go do the quest and then somewhere between 50 to 75% through the quest something you learn something new that changes the context right all the werewolf you're hunting it's actually the guy who gave you the quest your mom or you know whatever yes and the AC origins quest don't do that okay they're played straight the whole way through okay I see what you mean yeah uh but so they're
Starting point is 00:38:47 really they're it's still a massive fucking step up from the other games yeah because the other games like how like you know what's amazing uh I've played you've played more than me but I've played like around seven eight hours I haven't had to follow anyone you did I I'm way further in haven't had to follow anyone that's awesome you have to escort people but that's fine because your combat ability is crazy and that and and the AI for them like they almost for at least me they haven't like even gotten close to dying well the only they just hide or somewhere and then you just take care of the people that I followed in the whole game are like when I'm infiltrating a base and I want to kill just the captain I follow him but
Starting point is 00:39:30 then at the end of that I stab him yeah and and the other thing is that like when when you just get to a stronghold or whatever and if you actually kill everybody like it's what I thought Assassin's Creed one was going to be yeah and two still didn't have that like three dead like I never I never actually beat three I don't think anybody did I beat four but that was the last one and there was just something about this one where I'm just like yeah yeah because four was more like move on move to the next place move to the next place new to the next place which makes sense because you had the boat yeah that was the main thing and while this has tons of fucking boats it's just like what was the side quest where there's like this drunk Greek uh that's just surrounded by alligators
Starting point is 00:40:18 oh yeah crocodiles or whatever and that's a very Assassin's Creed style quest oh there's this like lush fucking um a husband that just escaped from his wife or whatever that quest yeah totally follows the formula I was talking about yes it does where you get all the way to the end and he's like that's not my fucking wife she's got me drunk instead I was married now no and then a bunch of dudes say you gotta pay the virginity tax motherfucker and he's like I help me and he's like I hope they bring the virginity tax back that's fucking great it's fucking so anyway so you yeah you played uh you played destiny uh yeah I played destiny uh I also played uh uh with my girlfriend and a friend of hers hidden agenda which is the new super massive game yeah it's them it's the it's the game where
Starting point is 00:41:06 it's like you you're to be fair you're basically watching a movie so you don't really do anything to give my thoughts on this I have to kind of explain how it works because it's it's more complicated than you would think it is so imagine until dawn or heavy rain or any story based narrative thing but boiled down to like so a and b choices only but it's more of like uh a hit um god what were some heavy rain type story where it's just killers serial killer detectives and cops so every particular choice you can be like I'm annoyed or I'm sad or you know uh let's search over here search over here right and they're minor little qte's and little clue finding things but the main gimmick is that you play with your friends and use your cell phone and you'll get a little like uh
Starting point is 00:41:53 like what's the word uh fibbage or one of those games where you use your cell phone to uh connect to the tv or whatever and uh the cell phone acts as like an impromptu mass player and uh you'll enter into a new chapter and they'll say okay and one of you people will be given given the hidden agenda and so say I get it right and it'll be like make sure so and so threatens the judge at the end of the cutscene yeah and over the course of the the scenario uh it'll then at some point give it like it'll ask all players like who do you think the person is yeah and then you if you succeed in accomplishing your goal you get points if you succeed in guessing the person you get slightly less points and so on and so forth uh it's a really cool idea there's also a bit of of uh
Starting point is 00:42:46 what's a hitler hidden secret hitler secret hitler yeah it's a really really cool idea and it's tons of fun for the first 45 percent of the game 45 yeah not quite exactly half so the game has some relatively severe logistical and mechanical problems like number one the final question in every cutscene is what determines the the the successor failure of the agenda okay none of the other choices choices matter for shit doesn't matter at all and a voice even comes comes over and says this is the choice that will decide the hidden agenda what who is it and stop them and it's like so because you're supposed to argue and point the thing and that's how you tell who the person is because but it's all only one thing in the marketing stuff i've always been
Starting point is 00:43:40 it's always been imparted on to me that like you're supposed to play this with like the maximum amount of people because it complicates everything there's more people to point to so you're playing it with three people yeah and like i know that you can play this completely single player as well which is you can't play this mode you just play the story yeah you just play the story in which case that's not much of a game so i would actually think that this gets way worse really with more people and the and that's the other problem there are a couple chapters in which you decide one thing and then the very next decision like one minute later is this is going to decide the hidden agenda it's like you've been in the chapter for a total of like three
Starting point is 00:44:22 minutes and you've been watching the cutscene and no one's really talked because you're watching the story and then it's like guess who it is it's like i have no fucking no one's even said anything no one's even done anything to be suspicious right and so then you go oh i want to do this and then you look at the people and that's it and then the other problem is that about the exact halfway mark of the game it starts to actually just fall apart like the story or you know how when Heavy Rain had a scene in which you could have missed it you didn't know until you looked it up afterwards yeah like an important part of the story in this in this thing people will be talking to each other and then it will hard cut and their clothes will have changed and they'll be talking about something
Starting point is 00:45:15 different and that's the cut to the unique version it's it is the sloppiest implementation of the branching path and then you get to scenes where like in the finale when someone's trying to escape it just skips parts of the escape and like there's a part where somebody called off an armed attack that was never shown on screen the only way i found out was looking through the companion app and goes oh companion and it goes even though you threaten a murder this person over and over they still trusted you in the end which means nothing you would have done actually matter and then the finale is like all these little pieces just clanging up against each other in these really awkward cuts and it looks like shit and like it's it's this bummer where
Starting point is 00:46:04 you get the david cage experience but faster where you get the first that's not a bad thing you get like that first half hour it's like the first scene of a david cage game we're like yeah there's infinite possibility infinite possibilities every time and then you then you're like oh christ that like the the one that got me was you're talking to a character and you're looking at them and from one line to the next the character's hoodie just goes from hood on and it just glitches down to hoodie down because in that version of the scene where they're scolding you the hoodie's up but then when they're nice to you the hoodie's down and we got both it's a mess so um super massive had three games scheduled to come out in about two months time wow hit agenda the impatient
Starting point is 00:46:52 and tango bravo the latter two being a playstation vr things and that's like has that ever happened one developer releasing three games within two months of each other i don't know pretty rare so while hidden agenda is not psvr like i read that the whole thing that they they did that for that game the whole concept was well only made until dawn we'd check out let's plays and youtube videos playing it together and everyone's shouting at someone like let's make a whole game around that i'm like that's a great idea yeah and that is still a great idea it's just like i think maybe now impatient and tango bravo whatever has been delayed till next year which is good because the impatient is actually an official prequel to until dawn so that needs a little bit of time
Starting point is 00:47:46 then now is not a great time to release shit because everything's coming out but like it seems like you know i i really want to play hidden agenda myself because i was like intrigued by the concept but that seems like maybe they kind of rushed it out the door it's totally possible yeah is it like two hours yeah it's two because it's a movie it's fucking short okay that's late shift was a movie and that was short yeah uh before i finish off my week uh i think we should actually uh take word from our sponsors whoa he's doing it hey guys we have a long time sponsor of the podcast here hey they've been holding it down matt yeah you like cool like uh nerd culture things no i look over there behind you and
Starting point is 00:48:39 see a billion figures those aren't mine but i see what you're saying what if you could get that kind of thing in your house in the mail in a form of box i would say you're crazy now punch your eyes in hey man loot crate loot crate is gonna deliver more than 20 dollars of pop culture items to your door i refuse to believe 20 dollars a month 20 dollars a month below that under that that's crazy it's stuff you can pose wear all sorts of stuff and there's even a bigger crate that crazy loot crate is this the mega crate that people have been talking about i'm looking at this now and now it says loot crate dx whoa that's huge all right i don't even know what dx stands for i thought like i thought i was reading wrong and
Starting point is 00:49:34 yeah that's probably deluxe it's probably it looks never mind we solved it all right we said it last time but it's the same this time pay attention november's theme is unite 2.0 okay that's gonna include things like the justice league yeah boltron overwhatch overwhatch over i say overwhatch i don't know why i think it's fine that's fine under look the power rangers that's crazy they united once or twice and remember this this month at least it's the extra crazy thing where you get the free download of uh batman the telltale series oh i forgot we did that last time and i still don't believe it yeah it's right there okay i believe it also oh no wait and one subscriber will get the mega crate dx that means no that means the loot crate dx is a different thing from the mega that's
Starting point is 00:50:28 that's crazy we're we're learning new things as we go there's so many loot crates there's so many there's like the anime crate and there's like the other crates i forget those crates names but they're crates they're crates man they got looted though all right now if this interests you you have until the 19th at 9 p.m pacific to subscribe and you'll get this month's crate when the cutoff happens that's 19 the 19th of november 9 p.m pacific if you miss that it's over it's gone forever and then you'll have no more friends yeah they'll all leave you they'll be like where's my crate where's my crate where's my crate i wanted to live vicariously through your crates because they're too cheap you know even though it's under 20 in video games i'd always rather
Starting point is 00:51:07 hit open a crate than like a barrel or something because the barrel the crate's not gonna explode in your face barrels usually barrel could yeah all right now if you want that go to loot crate dot com slash friend cast and enter the code friend cast to save three dollars on any new subscription today three dollars thanks loot crate thank you hey so what was the rest of my week uh the rest of my week uh hung out with the friend of the girlfriend you know when they vet you the friend yeah you know i don't oh really i'm just automatically accepting oh that's sweet that's sweet there's a few that probably don't like me it's possible that's fine but they were quiet huh i make more money than their husbands anyway
Starting point is 00:51:55 anyway but the other thing that is we went back to uh the escape room amaze in montreal amaze you have been there and we tried out the um uh the prison escape yeah which is awesome except for one small problem so in the prison escape it actually helps like really set the stage they handcuff you and put you in cells yeah they beat you up a little bit and then the first thing to do is to escape from the cell which is genuinely fantastic start to escape game yeah because you're escaping here's the problem here's their cell a and b a it's close to the door where the keys are purchased precariously right next to the doorway out of reach b is farther away from the door right it can't reach anything in b there's one of those little metal
Starting point is 00:52:48 shimmies you used to break into a car right and you can pass that to the person in a and then person a reaches through the hand through bars and then grabs i catch you so here's the problem i was in a and the ladies were in b they passed me the little metal shimmy i then go to put my arms through the bars only to discover they're too fat that close i am i am too short to get position to get my shoulder through the bars because the the the horizontal part is oh there's a horizontal part okay that and my arms are too short i am literally six inches away from getting the keys and we're we're doing this for i'm doing this for like two three minutes and it's like bones are creaking this is supposed to be doable right so you hit the hit button and the lady comes
Starting point is 00:53:45 in and i'm like literally like and she's like oh um okay and just hands me the keys and this is like in minute five right okay but doesn't take it off our hint thing or our time because what was the recommended uh player account for this scenario this is two to five okay well then three it worked just fine sure it's considerably there is a tough ass magnet puzzle in that there requires two people you know when these scenarios kind of pop up always better to do escape it was the maximum amount of people if you have them available yeah just to so i've done i've done two now one with uh just my girlfriend and one with uh the girlfriend and her friend man it is so much easier with more people it's not even close because we would find a key and you'd
Starting point is 00:54:40 go what the fuck is this key for and then someone behind you would go i know what that's for our brains because they were because they were staring at some walk that you didn't understand for five ten minutes there is a goddamn we didn't get to go to but there is a goddamn um what's the what's the ds series the room escape series nine nine nine there was an official nine nine nine escape room in los angeles oh that's fucking in japan town that was closed you couldn't go but i'm like how the official ones astound me like the official ones made me feel that's like this is an unlike you can have a fit like there should be an i'm sure there isn't maybe in japan like a resident evil one sorry biohazard one there should be all like this is an untapped market really and this is
Starting point is 00:55:26 just like generic prison escape yeah oh it was great i wish once you all would have like an assassin's creed escape you would think considering how many games studios are here i i i know someone that still works at ubsa i'm gonna talk to them do it do it would you do an assassin's creed escape i do it in a second and like the last thing you have to stab a dummy you have to come with a hood yeah you have to it's the lock you can't uh we actually made it out do with like four seconds to spare oh which is amazing do the the final bit of the of the prison break is so ardua it's not it's so uh tense it's like prison break because it's a big vent that you crawl through to escape and there's a lock on it yeah and once you find the key that unlocks that you're out right but
Starting point is 00:56:12 there's all these shells and all sorts of bullshit in front of the vent to make it look like hey you're not supposed to go through here so you're like there's 10 seconds left so we're just grabbing the shelves and just throwing them down on the floor yeah just escape and then you escape into the lobby like like you you literally escape and you come out like one foot behind the front desk that's not amazing it's super cool and then they turn around and go what was happening at the last second there with all the banging and crashing which is one of the things that you're supposed to not do there is no reason and they're like oh we didn't have enough time we had to escape man room escape games are fun if you have any group of friends that has any like a claim for
Starting point is 00:56:58 kind of puzzles all day do it it's the best it's the absolute best yeah it's good stuff and that's pretty much it for me uh nothing too fancy so since you can't do it i'll do it what's in the news boop boop boop oh my goodness thanks man all right we got some big stories this week nothing bigger than uh the fact that uh everything to do with star wars battlefront is now a fucking trash fire what are you're not serious how do i change the podcast to make it look at it i'm looking at it oh so everyone's looking at it now all right so this is gone i wasn't aware so this is now such a fucking massive scramble scramble scramble scramble it's a scramble scandal that it is now no scramble it is now scambled outside of video games and real newspapers and
Starting point is 00:57:52 whatnot are reporting on it i think it's like belgium was like this shit's fucking so let's let's go into all the stuff since we talked about it last podcast one well he is a seer he is a very smart predictor of industry crap to be fair that was a very easy yeah but i'm being complimented yes sure um woolly described last week on the podcast how all of your outrage was predicted and accounted for and that uh reduced costs slash grinding for your heroes would be implemented soon and it was later that day but was it though no because it didn't actually change anything all your rewards were also slashed by 75 percent so it actually meant nothing and then right before the game came out they pulled all the micro transactions and made a
Starting point is 00:58:45 big apology said hey oh whoa we fucked up boy we gotta we gotta look into how to make despair in the future you know it's really gross about that particular statement that they made what's that because it was uh attributed to a dice employee because then you'll feel some type of sympathy yeah because it's dice i like dice i like dice too they are actually the least respond level least but like the less are responsible for these decisions but if it said like whoever the fuck ea producer man would have gone over as well so i don't like grabbing a corpse and deflecting the bullets with it yeah it's like hey i know this is my decision and i made it and i forced you to go along with my decision you're now gonna stand in front of me and take the
Starting point is 00:59:37 bullets uh big ups to that dice employee that was like sure i'll fall on the sword for you guys i made a tweet about this there's very laxadaisical but like i made a tweet that was just like hey everyone we're sorry we got caught very sorry we thought that the star wars brand was big enough to deflect from all this negativity it is not and that's where we're gonna go to in the next part of this story what's the next part two parts of this why did ea decide to pull the microtransactions well there's two reasons and they're probably both the reason yeah number one is belgium part of the european union goes oh man these loot boxes are real gross this looks a lot like gambling maybe we should have our gambling commission look into this shit as uh as i saw
Starting point is 01:00:29 somebody say earlier about this ea fucked up and tried to greed so hard they may have actually ruined loot crates for everyone because if the european union like judiciary looks at this and goes that's gambling that's one of the world's major markets that basically bans loot boxes i've been to vegas and that that has a trickle down because it was like oh we can't count on that money does europe get shittier games or better games do then people try and get the european like it's a mess right yeah and the other thing which is probably more important now this is somewhat unconfirmed this is somewhat going on like crystals assumptions like what i would call reasonable assumptions what is known is that uh i forget the guy's name but it is the brand manager
Starting point is 01:01:18 or ceo or some big fucking honcho over at disney called the president of ea i love this part like four hours before the the microtransactions went poof and disappeared and it has been assumed it has been stated and assumed to be true that the gist of it was mother fuckers we did not give you star wars so you could have star wars is bullshit in the news all day last jedi's coming out also this looks like a fucking mess and i believe i don't know this for sure but i believe the a rights holder like disney does have the ability to go hey maybe we won't give you star wars next time maybe we'll give it to somebody who doesn't get our news okay i thought ea and disney star wars deal lasted until 2019 and then they have the option to re-up or whatever
Starting point is 01:02:16 that is probably the case i i think i heard that i'm not 100% but it doesn't matter imagine if you go to see the last jedi right yeah and you're sitting in your chair right and then it's like put more money into your chair and we will show you the next scene yeah or if you don't like that kylo ren is losing put more money into it and then he'll win yeah because that's like movies are pretty movies have gotten pretty bad with like d-box cd and 3d and shit but they'll never like video games are so much more the way the way the way games can work you'll never be able to grind it up can't stop us so like let's say they're locked until 2019 right let's imagine what happens like ea stock price like their stock has already tanked a little bit a little bit following the the
Starting point is 01:03:07 the pull of the microtransactions they're telling investors oh don't worry guys us removing the primary monetization thing of our biggest fall game is not going to affect our earnings which is nonsense because if it didn't then why do you right but let's assume they're locked until 2019 i can see their stock just tanking when disney goes out we're not really up and with those bucks right like and that's the kind of thing where it's like if they lose it does that mean that disney which has done this before with marvel stuff would like discontinue the ability to buy those old games and stuff like that like possibly i think deadpool just got taken off the steam store there's a whole like deadpool's on sale buy it because it's gone because we don't get the
Starting point is 01:03:50 rights to that shit no more it's crazy because activision or whatever um you know what i'm really interested in not this i'm interested in the fact that um julian expert whatever the director of factor five recently was on an interview and stuff that's like knew what i want released i'm trying to get released our star wars like unreleased we compilation thing in hd where it's like all the original trilogy shit redone hd like rebalance and whatever release these right now please god why don't you release these now and think and i assume it's because ea is just has the rights to it probably and unless disney makes another it says the thing disney owns everything but i think they're about to own even more of everything but i think they're open to anything or it's like hey everyone come at us
Starting point is 01:04:46 that's a new way to make money because uh rebel strike not so great but i fucking love those old rogue squadron games they're good and i want those released on every console and there's something about like switch exclusive now fuck that release that on everything now there's two other things to to note about this story what is that one just because they turn the microtransactions off that is not a victory for you to go buy it that's not if you weren't gonna buy it before because of this shit on my timeline if you were in the person's like yeah awesome no no no no no you have to be the person that's like do not celebrate this it has to come back and be not fucked up for you to celebrate right and it's a shame because i think a few weeks ago last time
Starting point is 01:05:29 we had a podcast all together i was like man battlefront too yeah that looks good it looks good it does look good single player campaign yo yo yo i feel bad for the developers who had nothing to do with this and who busted there i'm sure there were a couple of those people who were like yeah that's the box oh you know what i also bet that the game is awesome yeah sure don't don't fucking buy it look at that screenshot yeah it looks like there's a bunch of fucking star troopers going against whatever set that's a kylo red that looks like a kylo rend yeah it looks video games don't buy it until they fix it or just never yeah that's also solution yeah the second thing about this that i'm adding in here because i saw it earlier sure need for speed payback also had like
Starting point is 01:06:12 fucked up microtransactions and is actually called need for speed payback which is hilarious i should get my money paid back they uh recently put out statements saying oh we're gonna change all that shit also all the reviews of the game are bad whoops guys so they're gonna they're gonna can't get no more burnout eh burnout's not a thing yeah burnout's gone ghost games is fucking in the ether i don't know but like you know EA might have pushed it so far that they actually ruined it for everyone i'm actually glad that they did this i also want to give uh blizzard a bunch of shoutouts for being a bunch of bitchy cunts yeah yeah yeah i've seen this so when this was all going on blizzard put out a bunch of fucking schlocky ads with uh starcraft
Starting point is 01:06:57 starcraft 2 is free to play now and like pay oh you know that's crazy microtransactions it's like as funny as those ads are they take a dig at them this is the same company that like gives china special exclusive loot boxes so that they don't have to reveal the loot drop rates for the rest of the world and also it's activision blizzard they don't need to do that no they're of the same level if not higher than well no ea's got its own branch if it's an order but you know i mean like activision blizzard's right like right there so i mean like if you're some like indy fuck or like you know b studio do this shit all you want it's hilarious oh this is but if you're on the same level as that group like yeah it doesn't look the best yes starcraft 2 is free to play
Starting point is 01:07:41 that's awesome starcraft 2 is good and starcraft will always be good starcraft 1 so it's like you don't really need to do this you don't know why i brought that up too fast that doesn't matter that's fine oh i want i'm done you know what's coming too fast what's coming too fast new v triggers combooks dinners and more so street fighter five arcade editions gonna come out and we kind of do that already and we kind of already knew that there was going to be more v triggers yes they show off a lot in the trailer they show off a lot of the starts of things yeah it's it's labeled as a teaser yeah and that's really fucking act oh how do i scroll this what that's really accurate as shit because uh in it you see the start of a dozen cool combos and you see the start of a bunch of
Starting point is 01:08:29 cool v trigger activation yeah because there was like rumors that this shit was not gonna come out at launch nope that these changes would actually happen well now it super is and this like and this shit actually makes me like excited to boot up the game there's a lot of really cool stuff happening in this thing there's a there's a state which makes it look like um reuse parry auto counters there's a bison looks like he can plant a bomb on you like cinder uh everybody's got new moves every single character has new moves in this trailer yeah there's there's tons and tons of cool shit new mix ups in addition to that what was later happened uh let's see at some capcom event oh yeah birdies this is chain and attacks now stuff like that they said hey everybody get excited
Starting point is 01:09:21 for capcom cup wonder what's gonna be there and then a bunch of sacra pedals a shit ton of sacra pedals fell onto the audience and it's like whoo sagat wonder what's gonna happen there did you see the the other one that capcom fucking france put out yeah it just they show you a picture of saddam it is capcom france put out like there's a new character coming in season three of of street fighter who could it be and it is like the shittiest blur job of saddam it's just his alpha three it is the portrait it is the most obvious piece of art i've literally ever seen it's hilarious with that sonam picture that means the entire it means it's so real at least the capcom leaks that we talked about last yeah no it it like super real so sagat sakura sonam another final fight
Starting point is 01:10:14 character if you're watching this on stream you can you can actually see this fucking sonam picture is that blank god it's hilarious if you're if you're not watching the stream you're listening the audio version go uh go go to event hubs and go look for the fucking uh capcom france hinting at another street fighter five character blurred out photo article and look at this stupid shit i can't believe someone actually thought that was like a hint i i don't think that i actually don't think they could have thought that's so that'd be that being said saddam is a great choice because he's a lot like birdie where it's like it's a weird pseudo grappler alpha thing i loved actually playing as birdie like i at you know i'm really more of a like odd is my character cool do
Starting point is 01:11:02 i like him type of guy and saddam is like lame and shit saddam is super lame but plain as him is always always awesome i fucking love playing as him you need to have his v trigger be he switches his size out for the katanas it like yeah you know if you fucking do his v trigger then all of his uh all of his uh voice work is subtitled so oh that's good i like that um i feel bad he's a weeaboo so i feel bad for capcom in the situation i feel i always feel bad for a broader reason because like okay that leak comes out right yeah then they're in the situation it's like the next character has to be obvious so that the leak isn't totally confirmed but we but we've already planned to show off saddam shit right like but we're also showing sakura and maybe sagat like i'm gonna
Starting point is 01:11:57 go back and look at that leak list and be like because you know what that's the realest shit i'm excited as shit for that leak list because i've said before in this podcast and i'll say it again it's that if you ever see a leak this about calcom shit guess what it's real it's real it's always real it's always real and the main thing about that is that roxy roxy in a street fighter game is the sickest shit ever baseball bat yes it's a great obscure pick it's fantastic more please hit me with your baseball bat more fatal fury and more fatal you're fucking more i would love fatal fury and well no they'll be in they they'll be in yes no they will be in taken seven or kermit with a bunch of katanas and smoking a blunt it's fucking great i love that
Starting point is 01:12:41 image so yeah street fighter five uh i will make another run at it i will too with arcade edition because i fucking love street fighter and i've neglected i mean i've neglected street fighter i made a run about like a month or two ago where i just downloaded everything i hadn't downloaded so like a bunch of stages a bunch of costumes that i wanted but i didn't actually play any matches yeah i didn't play an online matches only i'm not interested well i mean i i've i've recently like quit rating in ff 14 so suddenly a bunch of nights of the week freed up for me so like yeah no i actually have time to devote to playing a fighting game again um the question then becomes what fighting game yeah right it might not be this maybe it's marvel who the fuck even knows
Starting point is 01:13:27 i don't know it's probably you know what you know what game you know what game it could even be what could it be boom it could be dragon ball fighter z all right under the no shit section wait why did it not show up in the thing just just did not did i break it oh god oh no the things delayed okay great don't worry about that in what is titled the no shit report uh fucking kid boo adult piccolo adult gohan you want to say whatever adult gohan yeah adult piccolo and go tanks yeah go tanks have shown up in a japanese there has to be a fusion uh no shit that'd be like that being said i'm torn on this because at one time it's on one hand it's no shit on the other hand it's like there's a lot of characters in this game yeah there's like 20 there's gonna be like
Starting point is 01:14:28 23 characters and there's still a bunch like there's no one from super in in this game so far not so far and blue blue Vegeta and Goku right but that doesn't count yeah it barely counts but where's kael where's where's biris where's jiren they have to be dlc later for the launch lineup like i will pay for female plague of gripe sands i will pay for them oh kael and uh cauliflower yeah yeah that's good uh i don't know about i aside from the super versions whatever super saiyan god super saiyan of the Vegeta and Goku no which i was like that sucks and woolly's like no it doesn't really and i was like really and then he was like nah it does it does suck that they're in there as their own characters um adult gohan should just be a swap on on young gohan that'd be funny i don't
Starting point is 01:15:24 think he should have a well they do they do have totally different things right they do go tanks awesome go tanks has a lot of shit go tanks has donuts go tanks has things yeah go tanks go tanks has the the ghost shit yeah he's got that thing where he blows up all hitlers tanks yeah that's special move yeah that's cool and kid boo fine with kid boo kid boo's very different boo should have at least two forms yeah that's fine hey mac can you fill time for like two seconds i drank too much and now i'm gonna piss my pants so it's gonna only take you two seconds huh yeah one two i'm done go tanks love go tanks does anyone remember tapion where the fuck is tapion i would like tapion and his uh legend is all the this is nervous i'm nervous that his legend is all
Starting point is 01:16:16 the style stylings i think tapion should be in the game i think goku should have his level three dragon punch remember that in movie 13 12 13 whatever i want level uh super sam 3 uh goku punching someone in the face with the spiraling dragon that was like a shit i think i talked about a bit with woolly uh a few days ago where i was still watching the y tv canadian y tv of the saiyan saga so vegeta's still coming down vegeta's still on his way and then i go to school the next day high school and someone shows me fucking metal cooler fighting super saiyan vegeta and goku and i was like what is yeah what is this put metal cooler in where's metal cooler he's not going to be in the moot the weird ass movie characters of which they're like a brawling
Starting point is 01:17:21 brawling is in broley's in broley bro is it brawling bro it doesn't because it's broccoli right yeah so bra broley bra broley how do you say broccoli broccoli broley broley broley fuck it fuck it hey thanks for filling that awesome time man i talked about dragon ball yeah hell yeah you did it's easy to talk about there's so much stupid crap so those two characters they're fine yeah they'll go on a little weird but whatever i can just see the beerist being like the buy the game in the first month get it is the whatever character it's very weird that the at least the launch lineup there's not a definitive exclusive uh super character that's weird maybe they'll all be dlc but to be fair the story mode is all android saga shit yeah so maybe that's
Starting point is 01:18:15 maybe there'll be a an even newer android it's not the new one i still haven't actually i played what no i played like 10 minutes of one of the betas when it was about to go offline yeah i still haven't touched it you don't want no one's touched what's no one's this game that just got announced i don't think anyone's touched that no one's touched it man i'll wait holy shit valkyria chronicles 4 exists is coming to everything sega and it's gonna get localized sega actually being cool like this series is like the pinnacle of sega's fucking stupid mismanagement bullshit because you can make a million mistakes of sega but if you say we're gonna make a new valkyria chronicles then people will forgive you all right okay you know what's
Starting point is 01:19:07 great all these characters don't look like hideous monsters yeah so let's take it down the step step one release a really niche but amazing game yeah and then get pissed off and didn't sell call duty numbers for whatever reason you thought it would sell that much all right kick it down to the psp but also make it like a fucking school anime yeah that fucking no one wanted that shit all right you did that oh disappointing sales but only in the west because the west doesn't really care about that stupid shit yeah all right let's just stop making them for the west all right stop now let's make one the third one but now let's make it in the tone of the first one that everyone liked but not release it in the west and now let's also get a fucking dojin
Starting point is 01:19:56 artist to give everyone like horrific deformities in their chests that's what i was and be my mind was instantly racing towards that and now they finally gone oh maybe people that puts to not her told me to not get ashamed i know which is like she's bored she's bordering on metahuman like in the justice league thing it should have been like a h logo flash i get it this is just really good news and it's coming up soon like it's it's scheduled for end the first i don't like it when a game is announced to come out in like less than six months coming out in like three months four months tops like well it's november 20th right now so it's exactly uh four months four months yeah coming out on the 21st uh switch is gonna come later that probably that makes it that's fine
Starting point is 01:20:50 but you announced it so that's great i'm a little disappointed that there's no pc version but like i'm not gonna live look this gift horse in the mouth i think there might be one later yeah there'll be one much later like a year later or something like that it's Sega i'm right yeah also the designs that i'm looking at right here whatever you got like pc owners got an awesome vanquish board yeah the the characters in winter coats like it looks so good i'm so excited for that man valkyria chronicles deserves another chance it's fourth chance that's right whatever it is whatever we're at now you know who i'm sick and tired of giving chances to willy no oh i gotta turn the sound off that little beep beep that's fine it's everyone knows that sound uh i'm really
Starting point is 01:21:39 really sick of giving project phoenix more chances i will defer to you to this because i don't spend money on this a few hours ago actually maybe you're gonna feel for some time all right yeah yeah so here's the deal project phoenix was a kickstarter game was like yeah yeah it was was like hey man i'm gonna make an old timey rpg man it's gonna be so great and i know for a fact why me i i i backed it and liam also totally backed it and we also backed a unsunk story as well and so unsunk story and this have kind of been in the same mental space in our minds for quite some time and so those are kickstarter games that we just know are not going to go anywhere now unsunk story if i remember correctly was like the biggest stretch of the
Starting point is 01:22:35 project is the lack of a dedicated programmer i think liam pointed at this out to me and then they failed to get a fucking dedicated programmer and the game's kind of been in like development hell right um project phoenix has just been like weird non updates like updates that don't go anywhere and just kind of disappeared i kind of forgot it existed so uh i think it was today or yesterday on project phoenix's facebook page a former staff member uh working uh for a company called area 35 and pr for tiny metal just basically blew up on their facebook page was like hey tiny metal uh used project phoenix as a fucking scam and they just use the kickstarter to take all the money and make this other game
Starting point is 01:23:29 and the complete thing is just a fucking hoax and it's it's completely fucking fake and that game doesn't even exist and boy is that easy to believe this obviously disappeared like immediately off of their facebook page like it's gone um but i believe this super easily like there the matt was talking about some fucking thing he bought and woolly and matt were talking the other day about what what camera do i want i want this one woolly and matt were talking the other day about kick starters that they had back that became obvious scams and it's like this sucks man like i knew that game was never gonna come out but at least i could feel it in my heart it's like oh it's just a bunch of starry eye developers that bit off more they could chew and now it's like
Starting point is 01:24:25 oh they just they just stole my money in a big scamble that sucks makes me feel really bad inside careful with your money on i i didn't back it for very much but i mean i'm sure people kicked in hundreds if not thousands of dollars that and that's just the worst hey matt welcome back i'm just being sad over here that i got took and i mentioned that you and woolly were talking about like fake ass chinese kick starters the other day and this is a fake ass kick starter japanese kick starter same thing different shit how disappointing oh well you know what's disappointing you win some you lose some but totally foreseen by everyone the project phoenix kick starter no let me switch the thing i don't know how to do it that's fine they'll do it eventually i did it
Starting point is 01:25:26 okay so remember we talked a little while ago about a game stop was gonna have a rental service yes uh that's done it's been quote unquote temporarily paused okay yeah as you can see that with no uh no start date no start date for the temporary pause and it's probably just gone forever now i heard two reasons for this personally one of which is from people who used to work at game stop or still do which is anyone uh below the ages of 20 and they're like our computer systems are dog shit they straight up can't handle like doing the thing that the thing was supposed to want us to do and they would have to upgrade like the whole network and that's a lot of money this is just not worth it the other reason is common sense to everyone on earth yeah
Starting point is 01:26:30 which is i described a method in which you could use this system to like play two three thousand four thousand dollars worth of games in six months and only pay sixty dollars thus never having to buy used game from game stop ever again why did we do this because it was obvious and it was a really it was like it's the the explanation of like this is how this system gets ruined yeah because the easiest and best way to use it is totally obvious to everyone but the people designing it because very often you go to game stop and you'd be like yo my name is this my account's this or whatever if you really need it oh god i had ads in the podcast that's fine that's awkward someone goes oh okay let me look oh uh yeah what's your name and then it
Starting point is 01:27:19 just takes a while for that for so for so for a new service to just get rolled out probably saw this coming everyone saw this coming everybody especially me why did power pass get you does anyone know got it got you uh it was supposed to get you a used game at the end of your six month trial okay for 60 bucks and you could you could trade in and use as many used games as you wanted that entire time well not a similar thing uh a lot of people are complaining like hey i ordered some games from amazon recently and they didn't show up until like a week later and then someone told me like please go on a best buy site and go for their game rewards program that will ship that i have never had anything not ship on release day so far so i haven't been investigating that
Starting point is 01:28:14 like i would like games to actually show up yeah that'd be great because i don't know how many people that i'm friends with or like i you know i'd love to play mario galaxy odyssey yeah it has not yet shown up these years yeah that sucks there's two people and they're just like i have my money locked in there yeah go digital man it's the only way to be sure also uh i'd like to point out that uh you're listening to this pod podcast in an audio format you just got a bonus uh because i super fucked up the stream version and uh forgot to turn off the desktop audio so every website that i went to that had like a big loud ad playing in the background just totally killed our whole conversation for the folks watching on stream cool now if you're listening to the audio version you didn't
Starting point is 01:29:07 know that because it doesn't pick up an audacity but now that i know that you feel like you feel feel superior yeah you got the better version because you waited like a couple hours i miss him so much boy i don't know how to do this i'm trying real hard i'm trying real fair though i bet he doesn't know how to stop that i fucking bet he doesn't like i'm looking at audacity i'm looking at obs right now right right and there's a desktop audio yeah uh thing there's tons of it that's on and that's why that's what i turned off to do that yeah why is that even here why why would you even have to stop audio coming out of the thing i don't know um like like if so i have that turned off right yeah if i go to the outro is the outro going to be silent i'm going to assume it is yeah
Starting point is 01:29:58 great i don't know yeah this went better last time anyway what is next what is next what is next on my list this is my list i helped made this i mean scott steiner's list all right oh it's what i was doing got no simpy you know who i got no simpy for simolo joe you're fat close the rampage movie oh thank you for putting this on so the title of the little news thing that i did was the rock continues to star in everything 80 stars in a lot now including um this is his uh uh 2.5 uh appearance in a video game movie do you know the first one uh doom yes do you know the second point five one this is hard this is for bonus points my friend oh jumanji doesn't it fucking doesn't okay what's the other point five video game movies he's been in
Starting point is 01:30:55 point five you define what you mean by point five uh it didn't actually come out as a movie but it came out as a game spy hunter yes yeah there it is uh there was going to be a spy hunter movie and a game tie-in but the movie never coalesced but the game did and the game you can rock bottom anyone that's awesome anyway so there's a really weird part at the beginning of this rampage trailer what is where rock is wearing the exact same clothes in the exact same jungle that he's seen in the jumanji trailer it is he's wearing a park rangers uniform i feel like that sums up this perfectly it might this is like an off brand jumanji with some dumb shit yeah i sure will see it i'll see it because i fucking love rampage i also love the rock and a lot of things like everyone
Starting point is 01:31:48 had the same reaction like what the fuck is this trailer where's lizzie where's lizzie where's lizzie oh there's lizzie oh there's lizzie oh thank goodness there's there's um the comedian slash whatever the fuck he is from um walking dead jeffredine morgan i'm you know what i'm totally fine a lot of people are like oh fuck this they aren't humans turned into monsters who gives a shit i just want to see the gorilla and the crocodile blow up a building i also find it really smart slash i guess you gotta yeah that we can't have a brown or black haired ape running around in this because everyone would be like is that king kong yeah it is it's just fucking king kong no it's george so the jungle no strong as he can be we'll just assume that he has white fur and that he's an albino
Starting point is 01:32:43 kind of weirdo um so you'll always know that makes it makes the ape look a little different it does they're probably it's probably gonna cause more contrast the shot of lizzie with the fucking sun cascading through his jaws is awesome yeah looks real good and it just looks like a fucking crocodile because they're like fuck toho we'll see the shit out of all that'll attack anybody with that shit fucking i still can't believe that there is a movie based on rampage i remember playing rampage the first time on my friend's master system jesus yes and then playing the nes version like a year or two later just going oh this is the best of the best i remember i remember fawn family moments along alongside the the genesis version of rampage i don't think that can't hold
Starting point is 01:33:33 up for shit uh there's vert like remember midway release the n64 and psx rampage universal tours those games hold up they're they're okay but the original one yeah not so much yeah i bet i'm i'm real the rock just i will work i don't care yeah is amazing i we don't do that see i remember when he got trapped in disney hell with like tooth fairy and stuff like that he did his time and i remember thinking like man fucking poor poor rocky like he he got fucked out of his movie career no he didn't no he didn't he's too great he's too awesome now because he got paid a certain amount to start in that amount of movies did his time did the films got fucking paid and now he's out you would do that now he's yeah i do it as someone's like hey i want to make a baby movie where there's a baby
Starting point is 01:34:26 you just up as a baby just the baby dump on my face pay me five dollars no you're the baby i'm the baby yeah but you get paid like ten million dollars yeah fuck it there you go do i dump on someone's face and you might in the sequel not on the first one yeah fuck it i'll do it okay there i don't give a shit i am looking forward to this horrible movie rampage oh man i don't have a segue for this next one that's fine that's fine just read it because it's just like a boring like business it's a boring business one but it's like an ongoing it's still important it's still ongoing so it isn't a boring business thing yeah but it is pretty important uh but as we talked about like three or four times on the podcast six or seven the vendy like is been like
Starting point is 01:35:10 i fucking ubi saw from but from across the room room yeah at a party and they're like i want some of that i'm gonna buy that shit and they bought a lot of it and yves garamot and is and is i think his family and like ubi soft is like his family family fuck that we hate that motherfucker they ruin everything they touch which is super real to be honest though when vivendi universal released a couple games like uh hulk ultimate destruction there are some good games in there but i see yeah it's still bad it's so bad that they would buy ubi soft has a brief reprieve from this fear of takeover in that uh vivendi actually told like their sharehold is on all that shit it's like takeover and it's a really weird statement it is it's uh what the fuck i want to actually read
Starting point is 01:36:01 the the exact quote because it's whatever you like because it's so passive aggressive it is it's it's so uh yeah how do i get here we go there you go uh ruders is reporting the uh that vivendi won't attempt to take over oh them games game spots super fucked this up did they though yeah they they were game spot they wrote vivendi announced that it won't attempt to take over a vivendi that is a fuck up they mean ubi soft never mind what i said for at least six months yeah so they're like we we're still gonna think about buying you out against your will but we all for a little bit because the money and stuff businesses can be done like that where it's like if i buy enough of you
Starting point is 01:36:51 i have all of you well that's that's how much you can do well it's the it's the funsy shenanigans with um it's the funsy shenanigans with like going public right you go public people buy your stocks you get a billion dollars because if then you got shareholders came up to us and i'm gonna buy this shit out of you i'm like don't you make that bad anime you know you mean that great anime bad anime how much money we talking about thomas says it's a bad anime yeah how much money we talking about how much money we talking about yeah as much as a bad anime can buy oh that sounds like a good anime that sounds good i'd be like i don't know i'm gonna run away yeah i'm scared of this decision all right that's fine that's fine so that's what i will forge your signature that's i assume what the
Starting point is 01:37:43 gilmo family has to deal with right now it's just man that sucks what getting your company bought out because there's nothing you can do okay let me change that let me change that slightly that sucks if you're not if you're already rich that's if you're already if you're already rich getting your company bought out is like no i want my company if i'm sitting here and ea buys me i'm like oh shit thanks damn it cool great on the ea official live stream folks buy star wars battlefront too it looks great now um selling out's great i've said it before and i'll say it again selling out has no problems there's no problems no one's ever gonna like come at you for it because it's so like because it's so agreeable it's so yeah agreeable that's bad so there's a lot of people
Starting point is 01:38:37 that agree and agreeableness and want to make more agreeableness and this is a bad segue that's fine it's still tenuous i'm pretty sure you didn't see this map because you would probably have talked to me about it i saw this uh summer xbox one really oh summer whatever on everything it's gonna be on everything uh releases a new safe mode that has no enemies so i'm kind of torn on this one what do you do in soma if there's no enemies so on the one it turns it into walking simulator it turns it into um and i'm pretty torn about this because yeah it's weird dealing with enemies is by far the worst part of soma like they you're not given enough control over your vision or your stealth mechanics or you had more control in amnesia with the candles and stuff like that but unfortunately
Starting point is 01:39:31 it's 50 percent of soma yeah and like and it is still a horror game even if you took all the enemies out and it's it's much more existential but it's like yeah there needs to be like a threat right while while we did a full lp of soma i was still like this is not and also the enemies in that game are fucking cool man visually yeah they're cool so like unlike the ascending origins like learn magic school bus edition um i don't really see the point in this i also oh it's because they probably got data backs that people were gonna play soma but it was too scary because the conversations that you have in soma are quite good oh yeah but they happen in the instances where you're not fighting so you feel relaxed and then it's it's a it's the game
Starting point is 01:40:26 goes between physical horror and existential horror and it trades off between those two things and the enemies are suffering are like the emblem of like hardcore existential horror because like they're all fucking met a human crap literally fight through these enemies to get the next conversation about existentialism yeah and AI and whatever it needs to be human being and all that stuff so without them it's like you're you're not really gaining anything i don't know i i also am really disappointed in that when you see a problem like reviews came out for uh soma and we echoed their their basic feelings of like the enemy just the the way you interact with enemies is not the best it's not as good as amnesia it's not it's not and instead of improving that
Starting point is 01:41:13 with an update they have decided to cut it out remove the whole part of the game and i hate it when games do that i hate it you need to play observer i hate it when a sequel comes out and they go hey that system didn't really work in the last game instead of fixing it let's just throw it away press the lead button and you get this weird thing where you look at mass effect is a good example where every game actually has less features yeah because they're just like oh yeah it didn't work great just throw away everything it doesn't work it's like fuck man i'm surprised that they're even updating the game to this amount i'm glad that it's getting support and it'll get a new lease but it's it's like but i don't think it does it you know that many favors yeah i i don't think it's
Starting point is 01:42:01 i don't think it's that good personally makes me i'm ambivalent that's if you don't know what that means for folks at home look at it i don't you have two different emotions at the same time like i'm happy to see soma in the news i like i like exactly but i don't i don't want to see it in this way yeah it's like we're stripping on a feature um but it's asking origins where it's like we're stripping out features but we're putting in more yeah for that uh that that game is history channel oh yeah that's cool i want to play that that's the same that's the same thing too it is but in that context it makes perfect sense so ubisoft please set please advertise on this podcast yeah sure we're we're we're doing the work we're putting the work in and for our last
Starting point is 01:42:55 article today and which is certainly the least this is the last one i found oh nice i can't wait to see what's the least and uh yeah that's totally the least uh i bet this is not the least but just i'll say it right now it's really neat that uh king of fighters 14 is adding a uh the Saudi Arabian character Saudi Arabian character that was from the fan art contest right that was from a neat contest i didn't even know existed oh yeah that's cool and the fact that it's getting another dlc character is neat uh klo 14 really good fighting game actually yeah those are some props for support but what is your thing uh the last thing is it's again like the big news so 10 cent this is some economy shit 10 cent did something which is they crossed the 500
Starting point is 01:43:43 billion market cap just a lot it's absurd it's so 10 cent is the chinese video game company they do games in china i think they run it all pretty much yeah they're the bosses so the the the article uh over at games industry biz uh show points out that that is more than the market caps of ea act blizzard ubisoft and take two combined so 10 cent also has put numerous minor stakes into supercell epic games riot games frontier developments and a bevy of others yeah no uh 10 cents rich as fuck and china is like as a result china will be a growing influence in the world of games so i actually think is really as they were in movies now they're moving on to games yeah uh that's crazy like you look at you look at something like pub g right yeah pub g is so
Starting point is 01:44:41 successful because got popular in china what like i think like more than is it like a third to half of all players are chinese okay like i do not know yeah and and that mirrors the movie thing it's like no there's this there's a bill there's a billion fucking people that are this audience this one's six in the plan if you yell hard enough matt daemon will be in your chinese movie hey get in here i need i need matt daemon i need a kind of fat matt daemon in this movie i need it bad i know i shouldn't talk obviously but like whatever it'll get translated to you yeah probably hey matt how are you doing i don't know what so that story just went away yeah i killed it that's fine it wasn't really important yeah but it was there
Starting point is 01:45:30 it this is a weird news i brought in the one my my story which is that a cool uh saudi arabian fighter from uh the kof 14 she looks really cool she looks kind of like eddie she looks a little bit like the guy i don't remember oh yeah that kof 14 the guy with the hood yeah that guy like unknown she just has shadow monsters or whatever but i'm glad that kof 14 is still like throwing things out there alive for example yeah yeah it's gonna be good kof 14 is gonna be amazing 15 15 15 it's gonna be amazing uh don't watch the anime show oh hell no don't do that fuck please i i talked to worry about that and talked to you about that actually you want to know there's some shit give me some shit so there's a bunch of cg episodes of that kof destiny show yeah but then they have
Starting point is 01:46:18 the history of geese which is done in comic book format oh where it's just uh images being shown in a sequence yeah it's a motion comic so a motion comic in the middle of the cg action show and then they stop and then the next episode will be back to cg and then benny maru will get his own comic book motion comic show in the middle of this 26 episode anime it's a mess it's a big mess that's a mess anyway geese is cool geese is very cool that's all i got i love geese when's he coming out uh he's not out yet really next year i think i think he's supposed to come up before the end of this year oh yeah because noctis is early next year noctis did we talked about that oh yeah that was last week that was that was right before the cutoff which was ninja turtles and uh yeah we did the
Starting point is 01:47:14 podcast on monday but it like it got revealed like monday morning yeah so we got lucky that's yeah i could stand before like this is a weird news week where there was white one super massive piece of news there's the battlefront stuff and it has like five auxiliary news articles auxiliary aside from that not that much going on hey that's okay that's our speed yeah you know what else is our speed uh questions yeah hey if you want to let us know what's going on with you hopefully it's more than this week's news are you geese yeah if you're geese howard please send an email in to superbestfriendcast at gmail.com that's super best friendcast at repouken.com gmail.com all right so i haven't looked at your emails for shit that's great because willy vats these things
Starting point is 01:48:07 too much you should just say whatever you see oh man i just saw the shittiest email i'm gonna read it do it all right we got uh we got an email from from josh josh says uh josh here question oh fuck this is so stupid do it question for pat yeah would you accept becoming three inches taller if it was added to my neck all just neck his neck no my neck if it was added to your neck that's bad no so like i'm i'm five two right now which is really short i'm gonna advise you do not take this deal and so here's the thing for some people that wouldn't be that bad of a deal but because i'm so short it would make it it would make it look even crazier don't do that my neck would be that's like my neck like my collar bone to my top of my head it's like half neck
Starting point is 01:49:04 then then people will make uh what's the fucking lady that gives orders in star wars with captain toy no the the lady with the white gown and she has a long neck oh mama yeah don't be her because that's just uh that's exchanging one problem for another problem yeah i don't suggest then i got all sorts of neck beard things gonna go on yeah guys have the problem oh man oh man all right here's your answers no no hell no god all right i got a question from christian here christian says hey super best friends a long time listener but first time writer hey and you got your thing on first try there are people who write in every week and we ignore their emails people say this type of thing so i recently brought prototype on steam
Starting point is 01:49:55 and had a good time replaying both uh the bundle both games i used to oh i knew you guys have talked about main characters coming back as villains or enemies in games and got me thinking about how alex is in uh prototype two he's the villain uh in prototype two he's the villain but his moveset is actually like super limited compared to yours like compared to his old vision as it should be uh but the thing that got me is alex powers himself up just before the fight he never uses super armor or any of his good combos really don't like it made the whole sequence feel anticlimactic to me question what's the example of the of a character coming back and disappointing you with their new portrayal so it's not about main characters coming back
Starting point is 01:50:40 as villains which is what i thought it was going to be when i opened it up it's about returning characters you're like yeah it's that oh shit um uh there's a subplot and tells us symphony uh dawn of the new world the sequel to it or loy the hero of the first game because back and they paint him as an evil guy it's just a clone it's just a clone uh there's nothing worse usually the answer to most of those things it's they try to paint the hero from the previous game as a bad guy it's like let's say there's double may cry five who knows there may be i have a strong feeling now that there'll be a double may cry five i'm gonna assume that maybe don't is the bad guy or versals the bad guy and your okay so here's the thing i don't remember
Starting point is 01:51:30 but dmc four that was actually the pitch is the don't that was actually but he wasn't really yeah halfway through the game you find out oh he wasn't the bad guy after of course he's not the bad guy yeah because i don't think you can really do that without like really exploring it you can't just say the uh between the games you didn't see it but that guy turned into a bad guy it's not gonna happen it's it's not well without a game exploring the whole situation it's not gonna happen so um i'm actually i can't think of a good example of it actually i'm actually kind of uh disappointed and dante and uh yeah i bet you are and lady and uh trish in you're disappointed in all three of them yeah i don't i what like the idea that dante had actually turned bad or was like
Starting point is 01:52:15 doing dirt is it's ridiculous but it's so interesting like yes because like i wanted it to be that the guy he shoots at the beginning of the priest yeah like you know he wasn't a big demon man he was just a guy way into big demon man and dante did totally just murder him yeah and that caused a real problem instead it's just like no the uncle dante and i was like uh remember the fucking ninja gun and yaiba shit where you were very very excited about like i'm gonna fight uh ryu hayabusa yeah did quite work out like that did it no yeah i don't i'm i'm struggling to think of anyone that actually did it right i'm i it's this it's this thing where i can feel that it's happened to me a hundred times oh you know what you know what game it sucks in what does it
Starting point is 01:53:09 suck in assassins creed revelations with all tyre yeah i mean he's not even really part of it no but you see him and he's an ancient old man and then the next time you see him he's a fucking dead ass skeleton yeah and that's it and they pimp that game like crazy that you were going to be able to play as all of them i would give the time i spent into assassins creed revelations and put it into many other things like i would take those hours of effort and pump it into like fucking golf story i'd rather have done that i can't believe i beat that did you beat that revelations yeah yeah i beat it the last mission is so bad it's fucking it's the chariot race where you're on the the fucking yes oh my god oh chariot races appeared in a set in prince of persia two thrones
Starting point is 01:54:01 the hippo jome races are awesome in assassin creed origin whatever what's the next question i don't know just click on anything i clicked on like three or four and they were so shitty that like click on one of them oh man we can handle anything all right yeah we got in one from jason i didn't even look at it so it might be super shit maybe it's good dear canadian office office for the emergence of mecca via social engineering jason here so there's a scene that happens a lot and that scene is the main character says give me the powerful thing the nerd in the lab coat then says no it isn't tested yet yeah the main character says it'll work for me because i'm gordon freeman or the main character or whatever right and then it just works yeah right you know of
Starting point is 01:54:52 any instances or instead of it being a cheap way to make tension the prototype will actually fail horribly like a real prototype would you may insert real life hardware failure so i can't think of anyone or of anything which is why the trope is so powerful i hate this fucking thing i hate it like the the gear that is usually given to the main character as like experimental technology yeah is usually so out there that turning it on at all would should just instantly kill whoever does it because it's usually the bad guy is like yeah i've got it i've got the power remember the end wolf inside the old blood it's i guess i've gotten this gigantic monster slave to fight for me oh wait it ate me i mean that's usually the way it goes the bad guys get the power but then it's
Starting point is 01:55:44 like the power is like uncontrollable it's the power being uncontrollable is usually the the villain's problem yeah yeah the hero's problem i don't know not really i can't i i completely agree with you jason that i fucking hate it i really wish that they would at least go with like before we do this we have to test it and then you went through a thing where you tested it yeah and then that would also be the tutorial that would be it right oh my god all right oh my god what the no that's a stupid email that's a really stupid email uh there's there's one about another possible fucking kick starter scam that's a bum right hey you saw um desert child oh totally cleared it i'm very happy just barely not saying we did it
Starting point is 01:56:42 but we might have helped oh man i don't have an answer for this one but i do want to know if you do uh matt uh erin writes in says nice to see you erin hansson uh uh dear super best friends have you ever been on the verge of apologizing to somebody like you're like hey man i'm so but then they did something that made you swear hard to the extreme opposite of like no fuck you yes i have and it's all and it's it's a really simple thing and it's when somebody is like excited for your apology like someone is like getting ready to gloat over your apology and you can tell they're gonna be an asshole about it that is the biggest like fucking like hey man i'm really like say you ate a guy's sandwich out of the fridge at work right and you're just like i
Starting point is 01:57:37 don't even talk about that i know i know but you're like you're gonna go up to him you're like hey man i'm really and then they turn around yeah oh yeah okay man fuck you if you can never even got that if you can't even be gracious during someone's apology which is them prostrating their pride before you yeah you can fuck off that's the worst that is the worst i've never had it happen to me like i've described before i worked in a uh warehouse for years like two years and someone just ate my lunch someone just ate my lunch and when you work in a as you know when you work in like some type of physical you know retail job like that the only thing you look forward to is your lunch yeah i get to get away from all these fucking people i'm gonna have a nice day either you or i love
Starting point is 01:58:33 one or a family member made you that lunch whatever it is like ah there's a little there's a little sandwich there's a little bit of a bit of oh look at this this bright spot of happiness oh wow some fucking heartless asshole ate this lunch it's in this brownish like flesh colored bag that you clearly didn't pack yourself yeah who does that that says that this is mad on it i mean right matt i wrote matt later oh yeah but during that time it's like that's a war criminal really when you think about it because like retail that's war you ate my lunch my dad picked me up and brought me a bunch of pineapple to eat because it's the only thing you get together it's so funny yeah it's pretty funny but um here's some pineapple because you texted us and you said that someone
Starting point is 01:59:33 motherfucker stole your lunch whatever happens to everyone i don't want to talk about it but those are devils those are literally demons that do that to you and with that i think we're uh we're done with the email segment of this podcast and i think it's about time to start wrapping it up all right matt wrap it up wrap it up uh channel seems a little cursed right now every channel seems cursed yeah uh we're gonna try and work through that curse as best we can more evil within boy there's gonna be a bunch of evil within episodes the next couple days but everybody we can do it you know the game is good it's good so you want to email and i want to know what it was with that Stefano guy yeah he's cool i want to see what's up with him i don't like oniel but whatever yeah we didn't
Starting point is 02:00:20 get that dialogue doesn't matter no we're gonna get it are we yeah i don't mmm mmm um uh we'll be back later in the week which will make things uh go back to normal fiscal should be normal this week yeah um lots of lp's plan with woolly but he needs to be here i mean yeah things just haven't worked out that way uh shitty editing will return please give your your your thoughts prayers and well wishes to billy hopefully it gets better soon i'm sure you will uh here's open and yeah i'm sure you will but you know for the time being yeah you say i'm gonna stream some wolf assigned a new colossus on wednesday you can do that on wednesday i'm gonna do that wednesday that's cool that's it all right uh i'm gonna wait where is that where is what the stream you're talked about
Starting point is 02:01:10 my stream is uh twitch.tv slash matthew mcmuscles i'll be playing wolf assigned the new colossus have not yet booted it up okay so it's gonna be like clean someone said something to me really weird have you played wolf assigned new colossus no i haven't i haven't even uh someone said to me man i really wish they spent the money on the that they had on the cutscenes on the actual game i heard that there's i don't know what that means i've been told that there's like compared to new order there's a lot more cutscenes a lot less game that's fine because there was too few many cutscenes on a lot of game i don't know maybe equals out i can be playing that on wednesday at 8 p.m. oh cool uh i'm also gonna stream this week i don't know when i'm gonna say
Starting point is 02:01:57 friday yeah i'm gonna say friday friday i'll kick it at friday at 8 p.m. over at angriest pat uh unless i think of a better game it'll be neo uh also i'm excited to mention that volt is all almost fucking finally done my intro and i've seen a little bits and pieces and it looks so good he is the best he will do it he's the best dude he's the best in the business you can't say anyone's the best because that makes other people feel bad no you no no here's what you do every time you do that you then the next time you talk about anyone else you say they're the best you know who else is the best everyone like two snacks and moth man and play and cranky they're all the best plague hasn't done any interest for anybody yeah but like he totally has has for a long
Starting point is 02:02:47 yeah well he's busy doing he's too busy you know what he's busy doing what is he doing fucking shitting up destiny raids and falling off a cliff like four times in a row in one night i bet he is and then i fell off the cliff is not great everyone falls like over with sometime in their life okay no seriously there's this part in destiny two's current like nightfall thing where right before you kill a final boss you have to grab a big power ball right and then do a platforming sequence and then sled like slam dunk it into a thing to make the boss vulnerable twice in a row plague gets the ball jumps and then just immediately falls to his doom with the ball that's playing with the ball which like fucks it yeah twice in a row he says he knows basketball
Starting point is 02:03:31 but i don't think he actually does yeah yeah love you you lie i don't know he was really nice to me today so i shouldn't have shit on him but eh fuck it all right that's it with the podcast folks hopefully uh it's it didn't burn down hopefully i'm on fire right now all right bye everybody bye how do i do the outro you play a natural thing and then after that's done you take it on the slide bagging off the crime crossing all the lines right just to the panel yeah oh yeah oh
Starting point is 02:05:37 guys let me tell you something in this wild and woolly universe of ours there's only three things you can count on your brains your bros and your bike helmet's on it's time to rock oh like the night with gold glancing down the road pumping lots of bulls the best to get it better riding through the night they'll be better fight whether it's the right to find them us forever yeah so my you

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