Castle Super Beast - SBFC 224: Ram the Children

Episode Date: November 28, 2017

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Starting point is 00:01:05 Let's try to fix that up. We had like a 200 streak or something. Sorry about that. Well, I missed like one. I think it was in Japan. I missed the second one or something like that. But you went like 223. Yeah, you had the longest record. And then you did the Amsterdam, right? I guess so, yeah. And we were all pretty close in the hundreds, and now the past couple weeks, we just shit all over it. That's what we do. So you see somebody said, we've got to start over now from the beginning. We've got to renumber all the podcasts. It couldn't make less sense. Because we had to cancel the one. No, it's true. And so the combo has to end and restart.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Yeah, but we were up to smoke and sick style. Don't forget that combo. We were at God like combo. Yeah, but you don't forget it. You don't act like that combo didn't exist. But the problem is we didn't cash out the damage, Matt. That's actually a much more apt description. So all the damages, it's all gray life now. What the hell is the cash out damage of the podcast analogy? Is that like taking our dicks out and getting banned? That's getting that's ending up on the news for one reason or another, I suppose. I hope I'm super never on the news. That you will be. I will be. Yeah. Hopefully it's like philanthropist, super cool guy died saving
Starting point is 00:02:25 children from a bus or something. Yeah, I know, I know, I know, right? I'll pay somebody at the children might be involved. Oh, come on now. Yikes. Yeah, I think we could always just call it like, you know, super best friendcast to episode one. Oh, yeah. Okay. All right. So no book to fire. We're starting Okami to of the podcast now. Now. All right. You have another 200 ish before we get to the third part. All that change. But the third part is actually just a second subtitle like Jedi outcast. You just start getting a, you know, more columns and just call it friendcast part two, like then subtitle, whatever you like.
Starting point is 00:03:11 I guess. But but but we never had the balls to like declare that the first arc was called Phantom Blood. Yeah, you know, or something. That's your mistake. Ghost flesh. Yes. Now we got the first arc is just like the name of the podcast and then every subsequent one is like, is the subtitle and then you can go back and call it a new hope. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Right. Plus every podcast title usually is like a subtitle in and of itself. Yeah. It's a chapter. Be it risque or or or honest or or just like really, really brutal. Gross, really, really gross. Yes, really. Yeah, man. I bet you can't guess what we talked about on this week's podcast from the title. I saw I saw the barrel attack wharf. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:03:57 you did. Have you ever seen that beforehand or just heard us talk about it? No, that was pretty incredible. It's the stupidest. It's so bad. I got a sensible chuckle out of that. It was like, I can't. The barrel was clearly his spine is destroyed by that barrel. They didn't even pretend there was any weight in it. They say, Willie, that if that had fallen on a human fucking a red smear on the ground, that barrel had like 20,000 dark tons. The only the only reason you're alive is because of your amazing Klingon. Yeah, because because I have several backup organs back up their organs, but then they go. It's like that shattered into dust every single vertebrate in his super spine, that empty barrel of plastic. It was
Starting point is 00:04:40 very clearly an empty. No, it was filled with dark tons. So I feel like we're far enough away from TNG now because I remember being a kid. I don't think we are. Let me remember being a kid and watching fucking Kirk throw the fucking Styrofoam rock at Gorn and be like, Oh, that's so bad looking. Yeah. But now we're far enough away from TNG that you can look at it and go, Oh, that looks amazing. Almost as bad in many places. I mean, you'd almost want to start like throwing moments like that into the movies just to keep the legacy of horrible props. All the movies are so serious. They're so. There's got to be something dumb in them though that I don't consider that serious though, because Kirk
Starting point is 00:05:25 is such a he's such a playboy like Joe crack. Not in the movies. Well, there's plenty of stupid fucking shit in the movies, but it's like embarrassing and not like fun. Yeah, it's like Kirk getting like stapled to a bridge and then falling off a cliff or buried under rocks is the worst or like, I mean, I mean, we're shooting that fucking bazooka. Yeah, the purple space. You say it's so serious, but like, let's not forget that like, it's not like it wasn't serious before. It was unintentionally. No, but it's like you never had a full episode of like one full hour of just like vicious light. Let me put it this way. Even the really serious, like sad dark ones were like an hour, right? Or a 44 minute episode. Sometimes
Starting point is 00:06:07 there'd be two part is you go to the you go to the movie and you're like, Oh, I'm watching insurrection. And it's like, it's an hour and a half of like a bunch of those. They're moving to people. It's so bad. It sucks. I don't remember any jokes in the insurrection sucks. Yeah, it's the worst one. And even in the fun stupid shit, when you go to first contact at the end, like Picard's like in a tank top and he fucking does the sick neckbreaker move on the Queen. That sounds awesome. Yeah, it's not. It's super lame. Well, you know how much information they could have taken from the board queen if he had not murdered her horribly? Oh, they could have figured out everything about the Bork, but he snapped
Starting point is 00:06:49 her T 100 101 spine. And then her little red robot eye goes the logical rational Picard. Yeah, yeah. No, that's that's the whole thing about the movies is that there's TV show Picard and then there's Larry. Yeah, Action Man kills everything. TV show Picard's like, Oh, we have to negotiate with this crystalline entity that eats all life. Yeah. And then fucking movie Picard is like, we need to shoot the board. I need to shoot a bargain to face right now. Okay, we made the joke last time to remember I said like start a 105 and it's just the enterprise shooting lasers in every direction into the galaxy. Yeah, that's how movie Picard would do. Yeah, or Jane. Okay, or Jane Way. Johnny picks. Yes, Johnny L picks. Action hero.
Starting point is 00:07:40 It's where we weren't even joking. You can tell how reckless a captain is in any particular episode by how fast does it escalate to ram them with the ship? Yeah. Ram them with the ship is always the dead last option, but there are many times in which it is the first option and you're like, what? Why did you go there first? Ram them with the side of the ship that has the most children. Yeah, the saucer section. Hit them with the children part. Hit them with the kindergarten part. You know the saucer on the enterprise? That's where the civilians live. Oh, yeah. So when they go, hey, Ram them with the ship, it's literally like picking up a neighborhood and throwing it at someone. Oh, yeah, those are the disposables. A space neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:08:22 We can replace the bridges like underneath like the blue part is totally fucking so amazing. Get stuff. Oh, man. Star Trek's so great. How's your week? Oh, it's great. I didn't know all that much fancy, really. Watched 99% of the Punisher, but one episode to go. I will echo Matt's thoughts that would have ended perfectly at 10 episodes. Yeah. There is one final little loose end that occurs at episode nine and continues to 12 that is then resolved immediately. And it's like, oh, you just added this last second supply to extend it a little bit. The Marvel fumble. It's not as bad as always. It's the best one so far because it actually makes sense why anyone would care about this one. Yeah, it's not as bad as like Luke Cage fumble
Starting point is 00:09:22 of like, let's get rid of interesting thing and let's bring in not interesting thing. That's not as cool. It's not to that level. The main problem with it is that like when the last second development showcases the direction, the entire rest of the show is going to go to a T. So it's not what I'm going to describe. I'm going to describe an alternate version of this, but it's like you find out with four episodes to go, there's a big, there's a nuke in the city. Okay, okay. And only so and so has the codes to the nuke. It's and then your brain just goes, okay, well, he's going to go here, then that guy is going to get killed. And then it's a drastic reshifting of priorities. Yes. Yeah, okay. And like for a little bit. That's that's what made Spider-Man two not so good. Oh boy,
Starting point is 00:10:07 isn't it? Yeah, I kind of realized that my extremely mild OCD is not going to let me start that without at least tapping off iron fist and defenders. Well, jeez, I'll tell you what, that it couldn't have less like you're safe. But I'm most of the way there. Did you watch the season two? Yeah, that's the only thing I realized that I wanted to know that's why it's mild. The first thing I wanted to know was like, how much does it matter? And then I found out not much at all. Not much at all. But I was I was like two away from the end of iron fist. Oh, well, if you're two away, then I was like, I might as well just see what the rest does to just see what's going on. So you're doing it for context. Yeah. And I'm assuming that the timeline that Punisher takes place is the last one is the most recent. They're there. They're there as I guess so. But like
Starting point is 00:11:04 they don't even mention any other like no one even says like Hell's Kitchen. I know. I know. If we if we if we catch a whiff of a Rosario Dawson fart, no, no, I want to know the episode that it originally. Karen Karen is now the interest, which is one of the worst trade downs of all time. It's not a good one. That being said, like, it's really great. And John Berthold's performance is amazing is what keeps it. He's a good actor who plays micro fairly unknown because he's great. He's good. He's good. And like more than micro is one of the like the most nothing characters and Punisher stuff. Generally, they never really do anything too interesting with them. And they actually made him like a fully. I mean, you say that, but he's the closest thing to a Robin. Yeah, that's ever been there. So because he did show up in the Radioactive Spider Blood episode. He did. He did. It's true. It did.
Starting point is 00:12:02 Which made me overthink how important he was. Yeah. Yeah, it did. It did. It did. He's so important. Like more than even like Frank's revenge plot, which is the same as it always is. I got to kill everybody. Everyone's got to die. It's so entertaining to watch what is essentially the shittiest friendship ever. Like, they're such dicks. They're so unlikeable for so such long. Actually, Frank is unlikeable. Micro is likable. Okay. And the midseason subplot that doesn't have anything to do with the revenge story has a really, really, really obvious point for the meta story to cause something to happen. Yeah. But it's still legitimately entertaining. And it has a lot to do with like, it makes you understand Frank better, even though it has nothing to do with him. No, that was the one cutoff story that had, like, I think the most to work with. Just because, you know, iron fist, like, I don't know. I guess it's like,
Starting point is 00:13:10 anyway, like Punisher had a good... I know that Paul, you kind of refused to talk about iron fist. You both just like hand-waved it. I didn't watch it. I watched one episode. They cast Loris Tyrell as Danny Rand. Oh, that's true. There's a bunch of Game of Thrones actors that are showing up in that. See, I knew you looked familiar, but not enough. And I forgot the guy's name from 300 that has the eye patch that's like, he comes back at the end of 400 points. I know him. That guy is like, he plays a huge role as well. And yeah, it just, like they just run out of things to do with the characters. Because all of these shows do not need to be 13 episodes. Every single one did not need to be 13. I think Defenders actually wasn't 13, which is good. It's also weird because it has the most to actually do.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Yeah, no, no, they vary. It's like the whole, you know, like, we're going to do an okay first six episodes and then fuck up the last six thing. In iron fist's case, you don't even get that. You really just get like, we ran out of things to do immediately. After episode one. Three, you know, and then we're just going to wing it. I'm going to punch people with my magic hands. I guess what I'm trying to say is that Punisher had a setup by coming in, saving Daredevil season two and like leaving on a high note. So you know what I mean? Like you've already established this working thing and you just have to isolate it now. Punisher does have one thing that the others don't because there's two points in which the story gets extended.
Starting point is 00:14:42 One which is very near the end where it's a little forest and there's one that's near the middle. Matt, it's when he goes to the house. He goes to a house where? The base. He goes to the base. And you're like, wow, I wonder how they're going to keep this. Oh, that's how. That's actually fantastic. Cool. Very cool. That's great. It's I'm excited to see.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Because the last episode is just they they prolonged it just to have a fight. So that the entire episode is just leading up to a fight that it doesn't really. The second and last episodes really goofy because every single thing is solved except one bad guy just walks out of the room. Yeah, yeah. But that second and last episode was quite was quite great. Did anyone peep runaways? I could if I was allowed. You can't watch runaways in Canada.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Yeah. So is the dinosaur in it? Yes. No, I can't watch it. Yes. Okay. I know this. I saw a trailer ahead of a loss of Raptor. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:46 And it was one of those fucking good velociraptors with the no feathers. Good. Yeah. Yeah, that's kind of good assholes. The pure bloodline. Aside from that playing games picked Neo back up. That game still hard to shit. But the Odachi weapon that they added is a lot more my speed. It's it's a big long great sword.
Starting point is 00:16:08 So it feels a lot more natural to me after, you know, so much Dark Souls. I've been goofing around a destiny leveling characters, getting guns. I got a better devils last night. And when I was playing with plague and I yelled out it was it's what it's a loot game. You get a fancy gun and you get a happy. That's it. Nothing special. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Actually, I'll save that. The XP shit they've been doing is fucking stupid. That's that's on the docket. It's fucking good. Okay. We'll get there. Yeah. Matt.
Starting point is 00:16:41 I streamed and played a little bit of Wolfenstein after like not playing it, you know, buying it, but not actually getting into it. A lot of people are telling me different things. They're like, man, it's not as good as the first one. Man, it's way better than the first one. All right. Sure. And I'm like, everyone's like, man, you better put it on fucking beta. Don't hurt me, daddy.
Starting point is 00:17:02 Because it's hard as shit and not in a great way. More like levels have much more verticality. Like, sure, I guess. And I started playing it and like, I was like, this is good. But yeah, I could kind of see what people are saying after a while. You have to go into a building that's completely destroyed, like multiple floors. So you can see up multiple floors because they're all holes and just everything is killing. Like it just ramped up after like the first mission, just considerably like bam.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Does it have that feeling where you walk into a room and you go, how am I being shot from every direction? Yes. And then with all the indications of modern game design of jelly coming on your screen. A little red all over the place. I'm still whatever, just because I felt like the first game was very like doom style, whereas very straight, but it like went off into these directions. But the verticality kind of just made it like, and up until where I played, I played about three hours of it.
Starting point is 00:17:58 I'm like, where's what's new? I didn't really notice anything. I think you're maybe leveling up. Your guns was different and it seemed pretty neat. Like you got a skill point. Like it's almost like RPG ish. You got a skill point. Now go into your grenades and level up your grenades, like add nails to them.
Starting point is 00:18:18 That was kind of there. Yeah, there was a skill up system and it was based off of if you could like kill commanders and then and then it would be like get 10 headshots with this. Okay. So then it all had that, but that's separate. Okay. I forgot the case in the first one. I forget now.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Honestly, it's been a while. But it's still the same thing of going to an area. There's two commanders. Got to kill them. And I'm like, I up until I stopped, I'm like, I don't actually know what was supposed to be new in this other than yet takes place in America. And you have the exact same hub world where everyone's gotten their makeshift bunks everywhere. And I'm like, okay, I like this part.
Starting point is 00:18:56 That's cool. So there is nothing wrong with it. But I was just kind of like, I guess this is just a straight up sequel. And like the first one, there's no multiplayer. Like the way sequels used to be. Not that I mind there being no multiplayer. But I'm like, okay, so the single player is almost exactly the same. And there's apparently it's considerably shorter as well.
Starting point is 00:19:14 Someone was telling me that too. Like the first one was like 12, 15 hours for the first person. Shoot. First one was is really long. So is doom. Doom is also really long. Doom is not as long. What are you playing it on?
Starting point is 00:19:24 Xbox one X. Okay. Yeah. It looks, it looks, it looks really good. But other than that, I put something I actually enjoyed a lot more. Battle Chef Brigade is fucking awesome. I couldn't sleep one night just various reasons. And I'm like, okay, I got to get something to get me to, you know, calm down and go back to bed.
Starting point is 00:19:46 So I played like 40 minutes of this. This is like a Kickstarter game and adult adult swim games picked it up. And basically it's. Oh yeah. I remember this. Like Iron Chef, but in a makeshift kind of Legend of Korra style world. Yes. But when you cook, it turns into like a Tetris Puyapop game.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Yeah. It's incredible. Plus there's monster hunter style hunting and gathering. Wow. The art on this is great. I remember, I remember seeing. Yeah. The art's quite good, but the animation is a little limited.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Usually when characters are talking, it just flips frames. Like it just goes from a stance or whatever. But when you go outside and there's, there's like a fighting element to it. And then you have to have, you have to make your dishes to impress judges because you, it's basically a lot like Legend of Korra. Like when she wants to go to the big city for pro bending. The main character is the one in the blue with the yellow scarf. That's a great design.
Starting point is 00:20:44 This is what my, my thought, this is what I think Toriko is like, even though it's probably not. This is what I've always imagined it was like, yeah. And the dialogue is really nicely written. It's very good voice acting. The only other like kind of negative is that when you go out to the, the forests and the action areas, the backgrounds are not, they're a little basic. So there's two things. I got to talk some shit a little bit.
Starting point is 00:21:11 I mean, but I understand that the animation is clearly like on that budget. You know what I mean? Like some of what the lighting and such is made for time and like economy. Yes. But there's these shots of like the dishes that are not vanilla ware in dishes. You can't do this all the time. You, if you're going to be about that delicious food, you got to be vanilla ware or Ghibli. The camera doesn't really zoom in on the meals.
Starting point is 00:21:38 But I want the steam and the glisten off of the steamed hands. I understand. I understand. But like you're just supposed to throw the, you're have to like, yeah. There's that whole milking room. That's milking. It's the stupidest image I've ever seen. And I laughed myself silly.
Starting point is 00:21:58 So good. Anyway, this is on, this is on steam and switch. It's, it's really going to play more. Kind of what maybe thinking of streaming a bit more in the future because like, I was just like, I need to get back into this. Like, yeah, you also have to do your meals and do them in time and plate them in front of the judges. Nice.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Like it's, it's a mix of everything. That's super creative looking and sounding. Liam's been about this game for a while too. Absolutely. I remember. And I was like, oh, okay. Other than that, I saw Justice League. Got to get that food porn.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Tell me about fucking Justice League. I don't really remember anything. Because you said a bunch of shit coming out of the theater on Twitter and it wasn't crazy. It was just like, you know, that was a movie. A bit further and further away. I'm sorry to forget. I might know more about that movie than you now because I watched the fucking red letter reading.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Yeah. I hadn't watched it yet, but yeah. Without the movie. Yeah. Okay. Shit. Fucking Justice League. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:56 That's interesting because that's, that for me is in the category of I have to know. Yeah. Well, I, I was like, I don't have to know right away. So for me it was, I got to know. So I'll see what Mike and Jay have to say. And now it's actually I have to know because there's weird. There's some stuff in that movie. So here's the problem.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Batman versus Superman. Dawn of Jesus. Yeah. I will remember it forever. Oh, it's burned in. Because of all the ridiculousness of it. I don't, if this is like, like Justice League to me is like Suicide Squad where I'm like, I, I, what, what did it look like?
Starting point is 00:23:29 Perhaps it would be more memorable if the Snyder Cut eventually made its way out. Hopefully there'll be a petition to release it. Well, that if we can just get enough motivation. People holding back the vision. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That, that movie is, so I've been following the production of that movie.
Starting point is 00:23:44 I have a lot more than I've been following the movie itself. Bookmarked by the way. Um, that thing got chopped and screwed almost as much as Suicide Squad. Yeah. Yeah. To the point, like the reshoots is one thing, but the most dramatic and weird one is like the color grading, like decisions got changed halfway through. The team movie is the easiest kind of movie to fuck up.
Starting point is 00:24:09 And it's also the most important movie in your entire franchise. So you want to hope that it's not the worst performing movie financially. And all you've got to go on is Avengers and X-Men 1. Yeah. So the most, the weirdest part. A team movie doesn't count if you're always a team though. Yeah. And no, but I was going to say like, like the, the, the new X-Men stuff, I wouldn't count
Starting point is 00:24:31 because it's just kind of still continuing franchises and it's focusing on, you know. But the color grading thing really weirds me out because you go back and you look at these old trailers and like it's night. And then you look at like the new trailer or what's in the film. Yeah. And it's like late afternoon, like day. And it makes a lot of like the costume decisions look like shit because it's like this costume was never supposed to be seen in broad daylight.
Starting point is 00:25:00 I mean that, that gif of Cyborg. Oh man. That's where. Cyborg never looks correct in any shot of the movie. There's always something off. It looks like my editing on like fighter pedia, like sliding images over things. There's something about that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Oh wow. I'll say it like one or two things really, really briefly. Is that like, yes, this is the worst one of, if not the worst villain I've ever seen in a modern superhero movie. Steppenwolf. Yeah. Just the most nothing. The Malchite from Thor 2 level of like, sure.
Starting point is 00:25:38 Malchite was an evil elf. Yeah. And this is an evil something. Evil. He looks like Diablo. They don't explain where he's from and like what he is. Really? Seriously?
Starting point is 00:25:51 He's like, he's an overlord and we've been fighting him for years. That's it? Yeah. That's all you got? That's all he's got. So at least like Avengers has the same problem. The first Avengers has the same problem where it has the stupid monster aliens. But Loki was at least there.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Yeah. And he's like, no, these are guys I have on loan from someone else. Steppenwolf has. And then you get the Thanos drop here. I'm assuming there's a dark side drop because there was. No, absolutely not. There was in the second movie. I sure was.
Starting point is 00:26:19 Absolutely not here though. Steppenwolf has an army of insect robots that I thought was a joke. I thought it was a a plinket, the bugs and the robots. Yeah. No, they're just there. And they're disposable. They are. So you have this, you have Ultron.
Starting point is 00:26:41 Yeah. Using the bug monster aliens from Avengers. Well, like it's the worst possible combination, right? He works for dark side though. If he does, the movie did not mention it. Okay. You mean the comics? Maybe.
Starting point is 00:26:57 I'm saying like, I don't know. You said that the second movie had a dark side thing. Yeah. What was that? Batman vs. Superman vs. Dark Side. No, that's Steppenwolf. It was. That was super confirmed.
Starting point is 00:27:09 That's not Dark Side. That's Steppenwolf that he's talking to. In the ship. Yeah. Oh, I didn't know. Okay. Okay. So you would expect a dark side one at the end of this thing.
Starting point is 00:27:19 I would. I would do this on Twitter. The first 40 minutes is objectionably to me like awful. I just couldn't. I was just like, this is such a mess. That's the smash cut of him getting the dudes, right? Yeah. Gathering up the team is like the worst part of the movie for me.
Starting point is 00:27:35 It's supposed to be the best part. Because he just finds Aquaman and Aquaman's like, hey, it's up. And they're like, yeah, you're that guy. And then Aquaman just joins the team. And it's like, hey, you're Barry Allen, right? Then they're coming out of a door and he goes, yeah, the speed force. And he goes, cool, get in the car. That's all they get because they're not allowed their own movie yet.
Starting point is 00:27:59 No, they hasn't been unlocked. Yeah. Soon. You have to pay more. Soon. That's not how you do it. You don't have the solo movie after the team up. Yeah, sure.
Starting point is 00:28:08 But, you know, they just don't do it in a great way. When they start all fighting on the same team, it's fine. And actually to me, like the biggest takeaway is that Aquaman was like the most nothing. And I went into it going, yeah, Jason Momoa, Aquaman, sure. And they try to make him like the asshole that's like, no, I don't trust any of you guys. You're all fucking city dwell. But then they back it off real hard. Like then he'll see someone like Flash will say something.
Starting point is 00:28:37 And he'll be like, yeah, he's a pizza huge bro. And then he just, then he's just fine. So do you know what I hear you describing? I hear you describing Snyder scenes and then Whedon scenes. A bit. I think so. Like, like the character that acts like that sounds like he was written twice. I'd rather have Aquaman be an asshole all up until the last minute when someone saves
Starting point is 00:28:59 his ass or it proves them that they're worthy and cool. But no, he's just, he doesn't really have any smart alecky remarks really. Because that's all flash, maybe a bit too much flash. Well, we'll have to wait. We'll have to wait. Flash is almost borderline. Like he's always feels like he's really anxious. We'll have to wait until Side Aqua is released.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Aqua side mission. And then we'll know what happened. But guess what? Batman's costume still looks awesome in every shot. I'm like, oh, the fucking coolie looks and Wonder Woman's amazing. And she's the only person that seems to care. Like even though the actress. That's such a weird thing to say.
Starting point is 00:29:36 Well, the actress has this godly, like noble air, which is usually like dry. Yeah. There's this like sort of warmth where you're like, oh, Wonder Woman's on the screen. Thank God. So it's like, we have to save the humans. Could that be related at all to her being the only one that has like a good taste? Maybe. From the get go in your mouth.
Starting point is 00:29:58 I think so. Okay. I mean, Batman obviously there too. I feel bad for Cyborg Man because he's a weird side character. But he was important to the overall story. Yeah, sure. But it's like he needed a solo movie the most. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:11 There's nothing to tell. I mean. He actually gets the most. Star actually. My shit got fucked. Now I'm a robot. And why am I? He's around so he can hack the text.
Starting point is 00:30:20 He gets the most thing, though. Yeah. You know, that's. And like the last sort of thing is when Superman shows up. There's Superman in it. I actually liked him. I was like, yeah. So the reason why I need to see this is because I'm hearing really good things about the Superman
Starting point is 00:30:39 in this movie. Okay. Okay. And I was like, that's fine. But the problem is that when he's there, it's like Steppenwolf doesn't have a chance anymore. It's like they didn't think of, okay, well, does he have a plan for it? Because Steppenwolf only shows up because he's like, thank God that dick's dead.
Starting point is 00:31:01 Now I can invade. The rest of you idiots won't be a problem. Yeah. And they're not. Kind of. Now Superman's here. Now I'm done. Is that basically how that goes?
Starting point is 00:31:13 Okay. He's like, oh, son of Krypton. And he's like, yep, you don't have a chance. Hey, comic nerds, I have a comic nerd question about Superman. Willie might be able to answer this. I don't know. He seems to know more. I'll try.
Starting point is 00:31:29 It'll probably be wrong. Is everyone on Krypton so fucking stupid that they continue to live on the one planet in the universe that would make them normal instead of being like super gods everywhere else? Oh, um, yeah, I have no answer because that's, that becomes dumber by the day there. They live under a red sun and that's that's all there is to it. Super advanced society didn't know they gained superpowers. You know what? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:55 There's probably somebody tell me that. There's probably a really good answer for that. You know what? You can find out next year in the television series, Masterpiece Krypton. Yeah. Good. That's all about life on Krypton before pre-explosions. Are you serious?
Starting point is 00:32:08 Superman's granddad. That couldn't be more pointless because everyone knows how it ends. The end is every character will die. But guess what? But guess what? That's what everyone said about Smallville. That's true. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:23 And Smallville sucks. And then it went on forever and ended up being terrible. Yeah. If it ended after the first season, it would have been good. If it ended the way they said it was going to end. And a final five. Yes, feet leave the ground. Feet leave the ground.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Wrap it up. The last two post-credit scenes were actually very good. There was one that was a joke, but it was like, hey, everyone loves this joke, right? And then they show a new villain in the end and he looks so fucking cool. Is it a villain that you're personally familiar with? Yes, we all are. Okay. Could you text me that right now?
Starting point is 00:32:54 Yeah, okay. Well. So you just, he just shows up and I'm like, he looks so fucking awesome and I want to see him in a new movie. Like that gave me more hope. Do they play in Suicide Squad at all or is it completely separate? What do you mean? Is there any mention of Suicide Squad?
Starting point is 00:33:10 Any mention of Suicide Squad? Absolutely not. No, no, no, no. Suicide Squad, yeah. That's what I said. Yeah, that's that's that new DLC first. Did they mention the Martin Scorsese? That's what I was going to say.
Starting point is 00:33:20 So that's just the whole other Joker origin. All three Joker movies. Yeah, all three. All not canon. Great. Yeah. Anyway, there you go. Did they mention superhero Lego Girls DC?
Starting point is 00:33:32 No. No, no, because that's that's the new category. They they mentioned they mentioned one other group, one other super powered kind of race, but they don't say what their name is. They just show them visually in the sky doing some. Oh yeah, I know what you're talking about. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:52 The missing one. Yeah. Okay. That's cool. Sure. So you say so rank this against Man of Steel and it's better than Man of Steel. It's better than Batman versus Superman on a technical level. Rank it against Age of Ultron.
Starting point is 00:34:10 I'm I'm I'm going to I'm going to put it below Age of Ultron, but not by a whole bunch. That's that's good because the interactions between the heroes in Age of Ultron is better, but the main story thread of Age of Age of Ultron is not that I would say that if Age of Ultron didn't have the farm scene, that movie would be trash. But yeah. But every yeah, that that scene really everything at the farm is great. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Agreed. Like Age of Ultron is one of those that I'll never rewatch. Like I'll rewatch Winter Soldier already watch Civil War, but but but I don't I wouldn't say trash. I just say bland. Yeah. Like the only part of that whole movie that feels like it means anything is like two conversations that happen in the farm.
Starting point is 00:34:58 That cool moment where the Captain America pulls the the wood apart and his packs are huge. Yeah. That's a good part. Which which which Quicksilver do you prefer? Foxes or Marbles? Okay, I much preferred Marvel's Quicksilver's character, but the technical shenanigans they do with Foxes is tasting the the ketchup that's that's a problem is that Flash doesn't
Starting point is 00:35:24 really do anything that's going to blow your mind. Like you you've kind of that's weird because that template already exists. Yeah. So it's like they're kind of stuck like what are we supposed to do when I would I would honestly he's in the frozen time kind of there's a neat thing that happens. But other than that, it's like I would hope they would just do all his greatest hits from like, you know, the show and such. Well, maybe when they finally stop firing directors in the Flash movie, maybe like at
Starting point is 00:35:54 the very least, I'm not saying rip open the speed force and pull someone through. I'm not saying do your crazy kingdom come thing. I'm saying just maybe like the round the world punch. You know, that's the finale of Flash's solo movie round the world punch would be. There is nothing you get in the movie like one single superhero thing that's exciting as any super and injustice. You'll never see nothing that that which are and those are the most Snyder moments you see multiple of those in a fight.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Yeah. OK, that's a three minute thing. Damn. Oh, well. DC is getting better. Good job. Cool. Now you know if you guys can make a movie without having to cut it to shit and fucking edit one or one woman is way better than this. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:36:47 You're right. And it didn't have this exact problem. It was they made a movie and it came out. So yeah, that's how you're supposed to do it. All right. I didn't have a week. So let's get into the news. We should we should now bake in the Dragon Master thing. But which wherever it's from. If we can source that original, we're not allowed to talk about it yet.
Starting point is 00:37:13 Yeah. When we do the video, that's fine. Oh, yeah. No, I guess I'm wondering. He's wondering where to start. That's what he's doing. No, no, no, it's not that. I don't know. I do, like, I guess want to say, like, publicly thanks to people who have sent things and been cool. People seem to be very concerned and I just want to, I guess, say that that's like you don't have to be that.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Thank you very much for everything that people have sent in. It's appreciated, but I have enough cards kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, I just want to let people know it's all good. And that's pretty much all there is to say. Yeah, let's get into the news. OK, OK, I got to do it again. You don't want to, you don't want to maybe start with stealing a soul for a second chance. So for a second chance, the time has come and so have I.
Starting point is 00:38:12 All right, I don't know about you, but personally, I hate Devil May Cry. Like, for some reason, like just the sound of DMCV. Oh, yeah, really, really like that. It's the nice. It's the nicest palette cleanser possible. It really resonates and. Oh, man. That's how you that's how you wash.
Starting point is 00:38:41 That's how you wash the palette. Yeah, you know, wash. So walk us through this, man. There is some stuff we've seen before in here. In fact, there's a lot in here that we've seen before. Yeah. In fact, a lot of people have known about this for a long time. And this is a leak that is officially coming together on behalf of the entire DMCV community aware of the fact that this game has existed.
Starting point is 00:39:05 It is it is very clear to anybody who knows anybody on this thing. This is like the worst kept secret I have ever seen. This is bad. No, there's stuff in the past. The PSP go, I think it's probably the worst kept secret ever, actually. But because people got hit, people got the hardware and we're holding in front of so many people. But yeah, no, this is like this has now come from like a dozen places. And it's still in rumor territory.
Starting point is 00:39:32 Technically, yes. Yeah. But that doesn't mean we. But they all say the same thing. Hideaki Ettsuno's secret project for Capcom is the sequel to the original Devil May Cry series, the fifth installment. Internally, it appears to be called Devil May Cry V. Now, that may not be the actual final title, but I really, really hope it is. I think it's fine.
Starting point is 00:39:53 I was calling that. And then just add the words, add the letters, Urgil afterwards. And no, no, no, no, no. That's that's that's fine. So yeah, apparently the reason why we haven't heard about it yet is based on some Sony internal rumblings. They were shifting their schedule around. We should have heard about it this month.
Starting point is 00:40:14 But what prompted this leak was everyone getting a bit frustrated that it didn't happen this month. Yeah. So they're saying for quite some time, we, the Devil May Cry community, have been aware of the existence of a new DMC game. Ettsuno plan to unveil this as a secret project this year. We waited to see what would happen and through E3 TGS Paris Games. And now in late November, there's no information about it. We know it's not his fault, basically.
Starting point is 00:40:37 And Sony wanted to, where does it say it explains it? It was supposed to be shown off at PSX this month, right? Under, right underneath, stay in production. Sony at some point decided to hold a bunch of stuff back from PSX, which we do know is the case because they they put out that statement going, PSX is going to be a lot smaller this year because they wanted to strengthen E3 2018. Yeah. So this was one of the cuts. So the good news on this is that when this game gets announced,
Starting point is 00:41:06 it's probably only going to be like three, four months away. It's going to be a 2018 release. And there's going to be a demo beforehand. Probably going to release at E3. But there is some huge changes to the formula that are not going to take away what we love, but they are adding some different stuff, but adding things that I'm curious to see how this is going to pan out. So there's going to be a demo. Let's go down this list.
Starting point is 00:41:29 I love that it says the trailer has been finished for years. Yes. Yeah. But we're not allowed to. Well, yeah, because it's one of those trailers that has like the final design of the characters are done. Yeah. And it's them just talking in front of a mirror or some shit. Yeah. That's such a Devil May Cry. So Devil May Cry V has been developed. DMCV has been in development for two years as of today.
Starting point is 00:41:52 It will be at least three years by the time it's done. It'll, which is the longest any DMC game has had. Good. Pre-production started around the time Special Edition 4 released, which is 2015. That's totally unshocking that they would look at the. Of course not. Astonishing success of that re-release and go, OK, fuck it. Well, you got to think that like that any time a re-release like that happens,
Starting point is 00:42:11 you have to wonder if it's like it's the Capcom test. But it's also people cutting their teeth on the dev side of like getting used to. All right, you guys, here's how you make a Devil May Cry game. Basically, right? Open up the files, do what you got to do. Um, the, yeah, Sony is apparently involved to the point that they might be funding part of it, which might make it a PC PS4 game exclusive. Not sure if it's timed or not,
Starting point is 00:42:36 but somehow Sony has got money is touching it. Yeah, the trailer's been ready for a while now. It's a minute and 50 seconds long. They might add new cuts because it's come a long way since then. But it's a city like setting, not unlike Fortuna City from DMC four. Okay. Overall game is supposed to be ambitious for a DMC title with a broader appeal. Longest cutscene running time of any DMC game yet.
Starting point is 00:42:59 That's great. Those cutscenes are stupid. They're getting as cinematic as they can. And they're trying to make this a full on like genre breakout. Big game. Big game. Yeah. Yeah. Whereas they've always been genre games, which I genre breakout. I like that term. I hadn't heard before. Yeah, just where it becomes bigger than the genre that it escapes from
Starting point is 00:43:18 and thus appeals to more people. I mean, the name itself is already big enough that it's a trench. People know Dante, people. Yeah, people that don't play the games know of and are aware of Devil May Cry. So so the previous team that worked on Dragon's Dogma and the DMC games is working on this. That's a good team. Shimomura is the cutscene director. Great. He did the DMC three, four and Bayonetta cutscenes.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Ruben, Johnny and Dan are back as their respective characters. No word on Trisha or a lady. And Onye Fiori is helping with the soundtrack. She did the song for DMC for SE's launch. As long as it doesn't say helped on Marvel Infinite. OK, I'm skipping right over that spoiler section. Like I did it alone.
Starting point is 00:44:03 I read this last night. Yeah. Hardlock on a standard. Did you read the spoilers? I read them. OK, I read them. They're not the big deal. OK, I'd rather not. There's one thing that's a big deal, but you already know it. I'd rather not. Hardlock on a standard target 60 frames per second.
Starting point is 00:44:19 Of course it is. Level design is more open, not going into souls open world territory. But movement outside of combat has been streamlined to match the open nature of the game. So we're going to have like almost like running into verses in Bayo. But what is one in my in my head, right? You know what, in my easier, faster way of just like traversing
Starting point is 00:44:40 what I in my head is it is it's actually and that would have much more experience with this is the way the games work, where your movement controls outside of battle are the same, but when a fight starts, it seals you off into this has a has a fake load screen where just camera pans and enemies load in. It's not quite a random battle, but it's it's in between. And then your environment and it will let you change
Starting point is 00:45:04 minor controls like for just traversal or just that, you know, depending on how big the environment is, you know, the downsides of that is the same with more middle of your solid five, right? The tailored experience is always a much tighter. Yeah, this this seems like a nice in between. But whatever, we'll see how this works out. There's some interesting stuff like, OK, there's no stamina bar,
Starting point is 00:45:31 level design and exploration similar to Bayonetta with action pieces, but without QTEs in general, they don't exist. Yeah, it's in us very anti QTE. That's fine. He hates it. That's fine. Not a Musso game, but there'll be encounters where you're facing more enemies than you're used to. And that makes me think of the PC version of where that was. It's like, what can your special edition also?
Starting point is 00:45:54 Yeah, what can your computer handle? All right, pop pop out more. That game's balance changes weirdly when the room is crowded, when the room is crowded, certain moves, like all your moves just get get factored for like, what's the widest thing I got? Yeah, yeah, screw screw aerial, like, you know, no crazy dance. Yeah, crazy. That's everything. It's also why like, there's always a discussion of like,
Starting point is 00:46:17 why do they love Neera so much as opposed to Dante and stuff? And I'm like, there's tons of reasons, but like, it's a lot of them are just a direct comparison. And I will always take streak over Stinger. Yeah, because it's got the spit on it. Yeah, especially the the Maxx streak. So, you know, and Table Hopper's amazing. There will be some online integration, but definitely no PVP.
Starting point is 00:46:39 That's good. That's fine. Dodge system is being reworked and dodging in general is supposed to be a lot smoother. Get ready to hear the word smooth. They're taking to this point. So, you know what I hear on that? I hear they're taking ban as dodge system. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:51 Like, that's that's what I see when I see that. You know what? Because the dodge system in Devil May Cry is clunky as shit. Yeah, it's bad. It's never been a factor, really. Jumping is almost always superior. You always you add or block even or like or something with like a hitch and you can you jump on it or anything.
Starting point is 00:47:10 So, you know, like I honestly like they could take the angel dodges from DMC if they want it, and that would still be superior. Well, they already have they already have like a metric for this with Trickster. Like just just say fuck it, everyone got really good. And Trickster is kind of integrated into the game as a button. Teleports and such. Yeah, there's a lot of ways to handle it. But it's true.
Starting point is 00:47:34 It's true. I even like the default Trickster dodge that you just get a second of invincibility. But Beos is like crucial to gameplay and makes it fun. So like, I think that's the right way to go. I think I think it would be plenty unique if it just didn't give you which time if it was just just dodge. Hmm, because which time in DMC is like you already. It would hang time in that game.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Would it be a devil time? Would it be OP? I wonder. Maybe here's what you do. It doesn't slow you down, but it gives you DT. OK. Yeah. Yeah. Perfectly timed one gives you DT and that's an upgrade that you you unlock later on with the orbs. Done. Great. Done.
Starting point is 00:48:14 Camera pulls back during big fights. Devs are really proud of the new dynamic camera system. That's interesting because the cameras have always been hit or miss. Yeah, it depends on the environment, right? In some areas like, let's say, the city courtyard in four, I think about where you've got a pan back to see the giant area. Yeah, we already are kind of used to the pullback there. But if you're in like a tight hallway,
Starting point is 00:48:37 yeah, then gets real close. Yeah. And in DMC one, you'd be jumping out of the camera. DMC one's cameras that you know, because they still were playing it like it's bad because it's it uses the resume. Yeah, it's just angles. It's not going to be optimal for fighting. Animations are less stiff. Big emphasis on cloth physics.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Yes, maybe Dante sort will not be clipping through his jacket now. Battles are beautiful. Mission ranking systems similar to previous games. Boss is being ramped up. One boss moves between multiple areas of the game. Style system is in for Dante. Enemies will react a bit differently to each style. That sentence is really interesting to me.
Starting point is 00:49:13 Yeah, because it says that it's in for Dante. Yeah, which makes me feel like the other two will get their own shit, their own systems. And it makes sense because they toyed with that with Virgil in SE. Yeah, he still uses the style system. But his style bar works completely differently. Dark Slayer stuff is not at all like. Yeah, it's a totally different system.
Starting point is 00:49:33 I really do. I hope that they take all those little ideas and push them so that they're max different, you know, you, Ryu and Kenneth. Well, I can see where they end up being super far away from each other. Dante and Virgil is being completely different. I can see Nero is being a synthesis of the other two. Yeah, that's fine, because that's what he is. He's literally red and blue.
Starting point is 00:49:54 Yes, but he works out to be his own type of character. I feel moveset wise. OK, no, here's Nero. You ready? You build up style meter and unlike the other two, you cash it out with throws. You cash it out. Yeah, and your gun matters.
Starting point is 00:50:09 Yeah, you know, and not just an insignificant way. Yeah, boss is being ramped up. Style systems in style system has been streamlined to be smoother. Smooth, smooth, smooth, smooth. This should be called Devil May Cry smooth. Slipping and sliding out of your chair. Smooth, yeah. Certain styles will have advantage on certain enemies
Starting point is 00:50:29 similar to DMC and DMC three. Yeah, it makes sense. You can use a single style. All right, most environment interactivity, more interactivity in the environment than any previous DMC game. And there's some form of dynamic environment destruction in play, but not on the scale of limbo. Yeah, that's just fancy level.
Starting point is 00:50:47 And of course, while it's not an open world game, inspirations are taken from Dragon's Dog much makes sense, because that's what the team worked on. So they know that that game is fantastic in its own right. This sounds fucking great. Could you imagine if the pawn system was in Devil May Cry V? Who would you make or get? You would you would make you would you would make your your Dante's kid.
Starting point is 00:51:11 Yeah, Dante knocks some girl up and you make Dante's kid. And everybody makes a different. I hope his name is Dante's kid. No, it's Sonic and you you have to teach that character how to do sick combos. OK, and then they can go to other people's worlds and do sick combos that you talk. OK, I like the idea of some custom customizing,
Starting point is 00:51:31 but I don't like that bullshit. So what I would say is I want a character creator screen that is creating your DT or at the very least customizing how it works by picking different elements that you want. You want that Devil May Cry two thing, huh? If you want to because that's what I'm saying is if you want the bug, you get the bug. If you want the dreadnought armor, you get the dreadnought armor,
Starting point is 00:51:54 you know, and there's different ways to play it. But you can you can pop different types. I want my DT to have super armor 100 percent. Do you want floating Nello Angelo behind you as a stand? Yeah, or do you want the arm to just take over the rest? I completely disagree. I want I want them to be all like designed and unique. And I want them I want them to stay as different as possible.
Starting point is 00:52:15 And I find in fact, I want Virgil's to be completely different from Dante's because I thought the difference between Dante and Nero's DT's was the best. Yeah, Nero does Virgil deserves something else entirely. Yeah, I agree. I agree. There should just be a straight up character creator, though. So I want I want too many too many. No, I want like too many mistakes possible. Grego, Sparta, Kai, the Rebel King demon.
Starting point is 00:52:44 And make all your Devil May Cryosies. So there we go. That's what we got to get to is one Sparta purple jacket. He's got to he's got to have some sort of something I really hope some sort of something second, find a way to fix the Nilo Angelo timeline issue. Because I just have him say I'm better now, because you know for a fact that everyone probably really, really hates the fact that Virgil died in the first game.
Starting point is 00:53:12 You know, that's probably a huge bummer for everyone going forward. Clearly, didn't for real. Didn't for real. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But he still had that weird like, I got it. I got it. So do something with that. Dante beat him up real bad, right? Heard him. And then when when Dante kicked Mundus's ass again,
Starting point is 00:53:34 Virgil was released from the Nilo Angelo curse. Whatever he got. His soul was ripped out to make Nilo Angelo, but his body still exists. So that's why that's why Virgil actually has a slightly different design this time because he got a new body. But that's the thing is that what I'm saying about the demon thing is that like there's already multiple demon designs for these characters. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:56 So they do switch and pop forms across the franchise. I hope they get Virgil a little hat. Yeah. What kind of hat? Oh, like a like a fedora. Yeah. It'd be cool. And he drives a cool car. You know what? You know what? He'd be the only one that could pull it off. Dude, that version with dance.
Starting point is 00:54:12 That's the Virgil mobile car. That would be the second bully. Do you remember that? The Virgil mobile has a big computer screen in it with a big blue V in it. Yeah. Oh, man. Dude, if there was a Virgil mobile like action like play set, you would get it yesterday. Yeah. So you know what I do remember, though, is is that he calls summon swords
Starting point is 00:54:38 like he's summon swords, but it's like a cartoon face on a sword like the clip art, dude. Yeah. But then we can have really realistic like CW style teen conversations like where you say it's lines dramatically, but under like understated so that they sound realistic like you're my brother. You just kind of give it a weird look. And then the camera lingers and you walk off camera. Hey, here's the question. Here's my big question. So Ninja Theory, even though they made a decent game,
Starting point is 00:55:09 they could not handle not throwing shade at the old series in the first level with the mop getting on his head. This better do the same. I. God, I want the reverse so bad. I want these people, I want it sooner and team to embrace it and actually give you a jacket that you can put on. Yeah. Right. This is loser jacket and no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, just just it's a jacket
Starting point is 00:55:39 you can put on and maybe you find it in in a weird location. Oh, do you want it to be like classy? I want them I want them to just yeah, no, no, we're not we're not we're not, you know, so we're not on your level. It's it's you find Dante finds the jacket. The same jacket has got the thing and he and he puts it on the Nephilim jacket and and like Nero goes, it's not quite you. And he goes, yeah, and he puts it back.
Starting point is 00:56:08 Just it's not mean. But it's not or, you know, like knowing Japan more likely, they'd like have him like kind of just look in a mirror for a second. And well, it's the same thing, really. It's pretty much the same moment at the end of the day. Look in the mirror is like, boy, I sure love my white hair. Now make a weird face and then or Dante and Virgil are speaking and there's this huge vending machine that's selling virility.
Starting point is 00:56:31 And Virgil is like, oh, who would ever drink that? And it pans over to Dante. He's got like three. And he's like, no, no, no, no, no, I got one. I know I got one. It's great. I got it. Where fucking Virgil and Dante are hanging out and they're having a beer, right? This is yeah, this is in the game.
Starting point is 00:56:47 Yeah. And they're like, hey, Dante, he's like, what? You remember when you were like younger and you died? Your hair, man, you look like a jackass. And he's just like, yeah. And then they move on. Yeah. Maybe the TV can come on and it can show Bob. Bob, yeah, the newscaster Bob, whatever his name is.
Starting point is 00:57:10 Barker, not Barker. Alex Jones. Yeah, pretty much. Sure. All right. So DMCV is happening and that sounds red. It couldn't be happening more. This is the best like Nero is the best poochie that ever poochie ever. He's the best. Oh, I really think he's poochie at that point.
Starting point is 00:57:30 He's such a poochie. He's he's poochie. But you can't poochie when your characters are already poochies. Yeah, you're right. He's right. They're all poochie. It's Devil May Poochie. Poochie May Cry. Because they came in on skateboards on
Starting point is 00:57:43 the other ones, the cool, quiet ones. So cool. If everyone's poochie, no one is. Characters are like they're not even made out of cardboard. They're so two dimensional. Like all they exist to be is cool. Yeah, I get because I'm trying to think like if anyone tried to write in a third due to hang out with Mugen and Jin in Samurai Champloo, it'd be terrible.
Starting point is 00:58:08 Right? Yeah, he's really cool. But he's also serious. What do you do with that? You just give it up because it's garbage. It's a terrible idea. He has a gun, but it's a different gun. What is he's really cool, but hates to care about being cool. What's also a great idea is the possibility that you saw this.
Starting point is 00:58:33 A macadamia game is on the way. All right, me and not the game. So let's let's this is Bandai Namco not knowing how to tease things because it makes things too easy. They put up a teaser website with a countdown and the only image was a fucking egg and a microwave and you're like, Oh, no, what's that? Unless you've watched here or read the hero academia and then, you know, exactly what the fuck it is.
Starting point is 00:58:56 But then like the name if you dive into the fucking website, like My Hero. It's M. A. M. H. A. O. J. It's like Dots, Bandai Namco Entertainment, my hero, academia, original justice, probably is the name of that game. Yeah, please, please be a fighting game. It would be a good idea. I'm not sure if they make another fighting game, just like they would. Maybe if like DBZ fighters has been out for a while.
Starting point is 00:59:27 Well, it's developments wrapping up, right? But this is an anime title. That's what I mean. Like like one piece has had a million fighting games, but it's had a million not fighting games, same thing for DBZ. It could literally be anything. Academia. Watch it be a mooso. It's going to hit.
Starting point is 00:59:41 It's going to enter just like all the other anime and it's going to become like one of 30 types of My Hero Academia games. And there's going to be tons of forgettable ones. There will be a fighting game for sure. And one or two of them is going to be good. And then that'll be it. Because like that's a fighting game cast list. Also, well, here's here's one thing.
Starting point is 00:59:59 Like like the like sure you can dot com reported on it. Like preemptively jumping. We wanted to be the gun. They don't know what this is, but they're like, hey, we're sure you can dot com. But I think that's more like, well, Namco puts out fighting games. So why would we cover the possibility more likely as this SRK article puts out? It's probably like a Naruto 3D fighting game
Starting point is 01:00:21 because they're trying to they're trying to get in on the new hotness because it might be the new Naruto or whatever. Yeah, it could just be an arena fighter, a lot of potential, a lot of potential. I mean, Stain. Yeah, you do a lot of people are going to main Stain. I hope a lot of people dress as Stain while they play. You know why? Because Stain's fucking power is completely busted in versus play.
Starting point is 01:00:47 You'd have to give it trade offs, right? So if he, you know, well, whatever. Yeah, I'm I'm like designing the system in my head for how you'd work. And like obviously, like, yeah, you'd have like special attacks that like would would be like like blood slashes, you know, and then from there you cash it in. But the cash in takes a while. Now, doesn't it? It does. You've got to back off and talk.
Starting point is 01:01:08 The problem is that he's got he's got a back off and talk before his power works. He's got he's got he's got like a built in like tier list against who his power works well against, I mean, at the end of the day, for universal purposes. That's the dumbest to try to implement in an action. Yeah, like you say you're strong, but if you have to jump back and yeah, you know, then suddenly Stain's not as viable as you thought. So you figure it out. Please be a fighting game.
Starting point is 01:01:37 Please be a good game. Yeah, OK, please be a good game. Froppy top tier. Froppy always top tier, even if she sucks. She's got that second stomach. So this I'm not sure if this applies to us or just Japan, but it's pretty big applies to everything. Yeah, it's everywhere.
Starting point is 01:01:57 Well, Demon's Souls is officially coming to an end on February 28th. Yeah, if you have it, it's life has been extended nine years now, right? And US and EU servers have also announced that that shit will be coming down either like that same day or a week later, a week earlier. So expect one final giant return to whatever the place is called. What's what's the line called again? Bulleteria.
Starting point is 01:02:29 Yeah, events for on the Reddit. So communities. Here's the thing, right? I was I was looking at I found out about this because I follow EpicNameBro on Twitter. And EpicNameBro was like doing the digging. Like, wait, are they just shutting down Japan? Are they just shutting down US? And he any posts like, huh?
Starting point is 01:02:50 So they're shutting down it in every region simultaneously immediately before the end of the fiscal quarter, hmm, is wishful thinking. So most likely these are getting shut down before the end of the fiscal quarter so that you can say that you saved money, right? But at the end of your fiscal quarter. But it could also mean that it's getting like a PS4 re-release, not a remaster or anything like that, just a re-release and that those that new servers will transfer over to that or whatever.
Starting point is 01:03:25 Certainly possible. That is wishful thinking, however. Yeah, not to mention that like I'm well, you know what? I don't know. I just don't know enough, but like is putting out like despite the fact that there's a hardcore audience for it, comparing it to their to other games happening and such, is it a good idea? Like, is it something that they would be like, if, yeah, financially,
Starting point is 01:03:46 we should, we should put our demon souls in there. I'm going to armchair CEO for here for a bit. And you can do, let's say, PlayStation 4 re-release. Development time would be put into changing the way PC is not going to happen. It's a Sony game. You change the way the multiplayer works so that it doesn't need servers anymore. Right. And then.
Starting point is 01:04:07 You go. You never heard of it, but play the game that started it all and do that shit. You never heard of it, right? People heard of it by now. And you and you can the hardest of them all, you know, whatever the fuck. The original Dark Souls, whatever. Prepare to die again. Kingsfield. Shadow Tower.
Starting point is 01:04:26 Kingsfield 2 is the real beginning. I mean, what are we doing here? You know, for real, though, demon souls is the one that started it all. I know, I just, I just, yeah, I don't know if you're also right. Yeah, I just don't know if there's enough of that that that hardcore dedicated niche, like, I don't know if there's enough people there for them to make a lot of this game is the one that, like people said, there isn't enough people. There isn't a hardcore enough dedicated niche for this game.
Starting point is 01:04:53 And then it did gangbusters according to its original expectations. Fair enough. And hey, like, that's the story of souls, you know. And, you know, if you if you can bring back Vib Ribbon. Yeah, anything can come back. So who knows? Don't die, demon souls. No, I'm sure you can die here. I'm sure that dead or not, fans will find a way.
Starting point is 01:05:15 You know, maybe it's on the PS3 and that's goofy. But dude, like fucking subsistence continued. You know what I mean? Like, people are just reading a thing where people are still playing 2005's like Spies versus Mercs and cast. Oh, yeah. Even though you shouldn't be able to.
Starting point is 01:05:35 But so there you can do it. Resilience of the fandom is not to be doubted and of the souls fandom. Come on. I would like to be a lot. Yeah, I mean, that makes the most sense. Quantum VR treadmill is something being worked on right now. Way too huge and ridiculous to be sold on a personal level.
Starting point is 01:05:58 Unless you're some kind of massive asshole or something. But like as far as from like a raw thrills arcade style setup thing. What you've got is this expensive cabinet. What you've got is this machine with a 360 directional treadmill that lets you walk in all directions and has sensitivity towards you walking or running even. See, that's that's the solution to VR, but it's a totally impractical home solution. Yeah. And it even blows wind in the directions that you move as you move in those
Starting point is 01:06:30 directions or run in those directions. It's interesting because arcade games for years, like, you know, you play the Arctic Thunder and a blue cold air in your face. Then you play that one police shooting game. Yes, where you have to duck under shots or you play that horror game. What's it called? Rune Escape 4D or something. Pissing your face shoots a bunch of piss in your face.
Starting point is 01:06:50 Yeah, that's what it does. It's much better. They have to refill the jugs in the back of the cabinet monster piss. Yeah. So like it's neat that this like if that actually or like a more commercially viable version came out in like arcades, I'd fucking play. I'm actually kind of more interested in the 360 degree treadmill and the idea that you can make one twice as big and then trap someone on it.
Starting point is 01:07:13 I suppose. I mean, what I'm curious about because the plate leans and such for incline to simulate like bumps and in the road and hills and valleys. So and it seems like your feet, the gear on your feet kind of slide around instead of actually like you don't slip. So it seems like you can slip a bit. Oh, yeah. Well, but but in the picture, there's a like a safety railing around your waist.
Starting point is 01:07:36 I'm going to say there's a picture of a guy eating shit and he's on the floor crying. And there's blood everywhere. If you eat shit with your VR headset, like you're double eating. Eating shit. It looks like it'll rip off your face. Yeah. So fall. Don't eat that.
Starting point is 01:07:51 Testing needs to be done. But yeah, but the ability to. Why is the guy behind him in the photo wearing a gas mask? I think this might be in. Is it like that big of a prototype? There's a rig in front of him, some kind. OK, maybe he's just got a black cough protector. Yeah, maybe that's what it is.
Starting point is 01:08:09 That's a cool. Yeah, so that that might make things interesting. Yeah, that's cool. There definitely are more and more VR arcades popping up in different cities. I've noticed like in over in Netherlands and like over in the States as well. Like you can walk by a city block and just see like a small room with a dedicated couple of VR setups like Samsung Gear VR with a pop up store with like
Starting point is 01:08:37 proprietary games and stuff. And then you know, it's it's interesting what's going on with you. I just realized this thing has a serious design flaw that can't be fixed. What's that? What happens when the power goes out and you're running somewhere? You're blind and you just hit the railing and just tumble over. You're blind. I think you mean like when an arcade machine just like breaks down?
Starting point is 01:09:02 No, I don't know because you're when the power goes out. There's no actual belt on it. OK, so it's not spinning. It's despite the fact that it's called treadmill. It looks like your feet slide with friction along the domed. Yeah, it's not constantly moving. Yeah, because no, that would be bad. Nice try.
Starting point is 01:09:22 Also, if somebody on a treadmill and the power goes out, they just slam it also, treadmills have like to prevent that they have like 10 seconds of battery. It keeps rolling and whatnot. So that's unfortunate. Yeah, funnier. Well, doesn't stop people from getting hurt. Yeah, yeah, I'm going to make it. I'm going to make it hurt in whatever way they like.
Starting point is 01:09:42 Ask Mike Tyson. Yeah. Sucks, shit sucks, man. Hey, I'm the one who went there first many years ago. Good. Oh, tattoo of a treadmill. That was really like, what the hell? So also, this was interesting.
Starting point is 01:10:03 Oh, man. Shouldn't. Deep sky derelict. What the hell is this? This is darkest dungeon in the space in the space. So the art style is presented as a comic book and the battle system is presented as a comic book as well. But what you're effectively getting is, yeah, darkest dungeon in space.
Starting point is 01:10:24 Well, that makes sense. Space is the biggest dungeon. Yeah, a dungeon you can't escape. Oh, that is super cool art. So it looks like a comic book. Yeah, yeah, and there's panels for the action punching that space where I'm in. It also very, very much looks like darkest dungeon in space, like art wise.
Starting point is 01:10:42 It looks like Jay Lee did the art to some degree minus like some of the shading. But it actually kind of reminds me of like a space version of of God, the the old PC superhero game, Freedom Force, not Freedom Force. But that is an old the the MMO. It was like, you know, it's like a Diablo like that's free to force, man, like not city of heroes. Then what's the third person action game that IO interactive did that we constantly reference with the one that had the cover system and they only made the one
Starting point is 01:11:16 Freedom Fighters, Freedom Fighters. OK, yeah, was that what that was? Was in a superhero game, but it was like Cold War stuff. Yeah, but no, I know I'm describing two games, whatever. There was like this old game that used the comic book art style like and yeah, while it's a lot like Red Faction 2. No, that's fine. It's fine.
Starting point is 01:11:35 The Freedom Force and the Third Reich or something. Yeah, so this is a game. Yeah, I think this is actually available right now on Steam. Oh, but yeah, if you wanted to see some interesting, again, space, Darkest Dungeon, Deep Sky, Darylix is also a good name. Spark is I don't like the word sky if it has to do with space, though. Well, it's the deep sky. Yeah, when you think about it, you look at it, then why not call it Deep Space,
Starting point is 01:11:57 Darylix? No, because space is the ocean above you. Yeah, that's why you have ships. I don't like the word sky when it comes to space. It's a call. I guess I guess I can't even fault you. No man's space. On Earth, we call it the shit ocean. Hate that there, that stuff.
Starting point is 01:12:23 Oh, look, oh, you're from Mars. You're from deep in the shit ocean. Matt told me about this a while back and it's gotten the trailer. We're looking at body of evidence. The what the fuck is this puzzle game? It's a post-murder cleanup game. Oh, wow. Oh, no, I told you about a different game that was sort of like this. Oh, wait, what was the game you were telling me about?
Starting point is 01:12:43 Viscera cleanup. But this looks cool. Oh, geez. I thought this was also that's a very different game. This looks neat. So this is a lot like a murder. Like, yeah. And again, I guess this is becoming a thing because Serial Cleaner was a 2D quick like a game where you have to run around the scene.
Starting point is 01:13:04 We played a one off of it where we had to one mop up the blood and hide the bodies in a kind of like cartoony way. This looks a little bit more realistic, I suppose. Yeah, it's a body, clean the blood. This is being presented as a puzzle game. So I guess it's like it's not like the others are more like espionage. This sort of cleanup thing was more of a portal style thing.
Starting point is 01:13:28 It has the portal humor and you're like going in after like a dumb sci-fi battle where everyone died or like there was industrial accidents. This is more like a murder mystery. Yeah, but I mean, you're coming in as the cleanup guy. Yeah, you're playing as the wolf. So. Yeah, so I guess body cleaning is now a genre. Yeah, everyone loves it.
Starting point is 01:13:52 It's everyone's fantasy to clean up bodies. And move dead ones. We're all super tired of blowing people up and I want to see the consequences of my actions that I know be responsible. Yeah, I've never heard of this one. So that's that's fine. Yeah, this is pretty early on. Let's look at my killer stuff coming out next year.
Starting point is 01:14:12 It's because of the shading. Yeah, the brown. Dead, super flat, super flat, black, flat. It looks neat. So yeah, that's quarter to twenty eighteen. Um, everybody had some footage of Monster Hunter World and that's all fine and dandy. But most importantly, they showed off the character.
Starting point is 01:14:32 Oh, you didn't see the character creator. This is old news. Is this? Oh, yeah. But I guess this is the first time you're seeing it. Because I'm like, let's get down to brass tax. So the character creator has been notoriously awful because it's a PS2 game. What I'm like, what are we rocking when it comes to these options? But you're rocking a lot of options.
Starting point is 01:14:50 I'm seeing a little bit of Black Desert. Yeah, even in the design of the heads kind of looks a little bit like Black Desert. Yeah, I see it. Looks great. That's a lot of options. Yeah. OK. Well, Capcom got its fucking feet super wet with the extensive character
Starting point is 01:15:08 creator shit with Dragon's Dogma. Yeah, sure. Mm hmm. And I think they could just use most of that like know how and shit and just bring it over. But I mean, that's a completely different team, right? Yeah, but I mean, technology, whatever. Whatever. Monster Hunter's always had.
Starting point is 01:15:24 It's weird because everything about Monster Hunter's always felt cheap because it's handheld games. It also now it's expensive. It also like feels like it's a thing that happens outside of Capcom in the way that Pokemon doesn't feel like a Nintendo product. I get that sort of. I should also mention this is one of those character creators that is like astonishing in its pointlessness.
Starting point is 01:15:46 Yeah, your character will be wearing a helmet for 99 percent of all play time. It's knowing what's the man or woman that lies under. Do you think you do you think you can is there like a toggle so that you can do like helmet off even then maybe they will do that, right? Maybe they will do the thing where Cosmetics or Destiny does where your helmet comes off in the social area or it lets them open up more armor sets designs to incorporate the character's face. Invisible armor.
Starting point is 01:16:14 Like just give us invisible armor. Like here's a really good example. Wolves in Monster Hunter Infinite, right? That armor is accurate. The female Rathaloset has an open face. The male Rathaloset does not have the closed face. It's possible that if they put all the money in a fancy character creator, more armor sets will have an open face.
Starting point is 01:16:33 Also, I'm not sure if it's new in this game, but William, the Sanskrit origins, if you get a hood, there's just a button that you toggle if you always want to play with your hood down. Cool. Yeah, not sure if it's new in that. Yeah, because he didn't he didn't put the rules in place that your hood always has to be up yet. Yeah, so I don't care.
Starting point is 01:16:50 So he's like, I'm going to put it down. Yeah, you can do what you want until I make the character creator detail also extends to your Palico, which is pretty funny. Cool. Helmet toggle apparently was confirmed a couple of weeks back. So that's awesome. There you go. That's legit. Smart, smart. Because yeah, you'd put all this work
Starting point is 01:17:07 into something that you never get to see. Like, what's the point? That was I got first introduced to that in Reckoning, actually. Oh, yeah. Whereas like you just go into options and there was a thing that was like helmet invisible, yes or no. I forgot about Reckoning. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:20 A lot of people do and I don't blame them, but because it's forgettable. Yeah, but it wasn't poor. It wasn't poor. Yeah. That's what it's going to say on the Justice League DVDs. Not poor, encouraging. Does its job. Ambitious.
Starting point is 01:17:39 You want to talk about ambitious? I do. I'll show you ambitious. I should be something really not ambitious. That's really. Oh, wait, this one. This is really ambitious. It's really.
Starting point is 01:17:49 This is the most ambitious thing you've ever seen. For no, for nothing. Yeah. For some YouTube hits for entertainment. What are we talking about? Talking about cup souls, the animation in which a guy did a somebody. I don't know who they are. Did a 64 bits, 64 bits.
Starting point is 01:18:05 Did a one and a half minute animated little thing of what if Dark Souls was Cuphead animated and just animated a bunch of bosses, boss fights as if Soler and Oscar are running around doing stuff and it is immaculate in its quality. It's like there is there is no short. I didn't know there is no shortcuts taken. It is fully, fully detailed and animated, exactly like Cuphead style. And it's fantastic. It has a little bit of here and there from every game.
Starting point is 01:18:38 Yeah, as it should. I like I actively wish I actively wish we could do Steam Workshop PC mods for some funsies like this, heavy a lot of work, but it'd be so worth it. Man, go check out the video. It's 64 bits, cup souls. So good. And yeah, it's it's fantastic effort, fantastic work. Everybody needs to see it.
Starting point is 01:19:03 And then a bonfire Chan making an appearance. Yeah, kind of our character. Looking very sad. So fun stuff. Oh, no, I've hit it away. That thing is man. I when I saw that, I ignored it because I thought it was a bunch of still images. Yeah, I thought it was all right, right, right.
Starting point is 01:19:22 And like, yeah, we got a we got a bunch of the Cuphead like still images of things. But then I clicked on it once and it was all right, now you could give us the front the front trenches of this destiny to bungee experience bullshit. All right, because reading it, what it sounds like to me is the story is that for some reason, when you hit level 20, your XP scales down so that you make like less and less of it, depending on how fast you kill things.
Starting point is 01:19:55 No, so kind of. So the way that it works is destiny has a level cap of 20. But after 20, you continue to gain experience. When you hit level 21 or what would be level 21? You instead of gaining a level, you gain a bright engram, which is the game's loot box, right? And every week, you the first three levels, I believe, are faster than others, right?
Starting point is 01:20:19 So it's overwatch ish or anything else. You get a level, you get a loot box, right? So last week, it got discovered by a very attentive player who said, I'm going to grind out a bunch of public events. His methods were incredible and record some data. And he discovered that the game has a fairly, I was going to say aggressive, but I'm actually going to extreme thing that a lot of MMOs have, which is a rest system,
Starting point is 01:20:48 which is the longer you play, the less experience you earn. But this shit is off the charts. It's like after a certain amount of time, like if XP becomes worth like four percent of its original value, it's crazy. And the layman would look at that and go, oh, you make less XP the more you grind. Therefore, you buy a loot box.
Starting point is 01:21:13 Yeah. Right. Now, people were very cynical about this and said, Bungie's going to come out and say, oh, it's not working as intended. And sure enough, Bungie came out and said, the system is not working as intended. We intended it to scale up when you did things that took a long time, like the raid or a strike. If you killed enemies one at a time, you lost no XP.
Starting point is 01:21:38 I noticed they said, if you wait for the cash out to appear after each kill, you could get a hundred percent of what you do fast grinding stuff. No, and like that already exists in the game very clearly in that there's a type of token you can get from a chest that you cash in at vendors for rolls on their gear. If you grab too many chests in too short of a time without leaving a chest cooled down, the chest just gives you nothing. You've got empty chests because you've grabbed too many.
Starting point is 01:22:08 Yeah. So that's in the game, but that's like not you can't buy that stuff. It's literally just stop you from grinding. Now, so then they got my understanding, though, this is even worse because despite the fact that that's happening in your on your bar, which you can only measure by pixels. Yes. Right. Because there's no number shortens to that degree.
Starting point is 01:22:28 The number of experience displayed is the fake number. Yeah, it was the as you're getting was the idealized number, not the real one. So quite bad. So Bungie says, oh, it's not working as intended yet. You gotta we're going to turn that thing off. And then to their credit, like less than a day later, they turned it off. New studies by people have discovered that when they turned it off,
Starting point is 01:22:52 they basically globally cut experience for every single thing in the game by like 50 percent, huh? Well, because now it's not scaling for player activity. So you got there's no way we're going to let people earn like more XP than before because they love because because they love up too fast and get too many loot boxes for free. It is it is punishing you for playing the game. It is Destiny's biggest problem.
Starting point is 01:23:18 And it's been classified by a lot of people as an incentives problem. Yeah, this is all the fancy stuff, all the all the fancy shaders, all the fancy mounts, all the fancy ships. They're all in the microtransaction store. You can't get any of them via normal means. The reporting on this hasn't framed it as something related to loot boxes or at least part of that economy. It is absolutely loot box space.
Starting point is 01:23:43 That's that is just another upsetting thing that Scott called out. Yep. And it's pretty clear to me anyway. I might be wrong, but the reason why this changed so fast and it'll probably change more because there's an expansion coming out and they have their design, their live designer talking about how there are going to be large mechanical changes to stuff like this in the near future. Hopefully as well to the faction guys, the rep people. Because in Destiny 1, when you when you gave in rep to a vendor,
Starting point is 01:24:14 you would eventually earn the ability to just buy whatever they sold. OK, right. So but now in Destiny 2, you you've given the fact that the rep tokens and you just get a roll on their gear and it's like all I need is the helmet from Iron Banner. I don't need another fucking pair of boots. Just let me fucking buy the helmet, you know. So stuff like that is going to change. This is so obviously the fucking loot box shit and it's disappointing.
Starting point is 01:24:41 And I think the only reason that this changed so quickly is because A, they were ready to do it when they eventually got caught. They were going to go away and see if we get caught. It was it was very cold and B, they changed it so fast after getting caught because of the shit with Battlefront. They had it ready to go. Yeah, right. Because even if it was not ready to go beforehand when they saw the Battlefront
Starting point is 01:25:02 shit, they're like, oh, we got to be like, yeah, boof. And again, the guy the way the guy measured it was basically by taking screenshots and measuring pixels in terms of exp bar growth. Yeah. And just an ally number being displayed, which is it's a shame, incredible. It's a real shame because I really enjoy the game quite a bit, but it's it's a total can't get away from it. It's a total black eye.
Starting point is 01:25:24 And it's like this is considerably less evil than Battlefront because Battlefront's whole fucking game is based around it is fucked. And but like destiny, it's a loot game. And a bunch of the loot incentives are lost due to the system. But, you know, at the end of the day, Bungie's a small company. They don't have time, they don't have time to say. You know, they don't have time to work on these problems. Experience. They've only been around for 20 years.
Starting point is 01:25:51 No, no, no, the quote is by the small indie company that doesn't have time to work on these types of problems. Where's that quote come from? That's that's like the destiny forums. One destiny one came out. Well, destiny two's forums are very different now. They are they are destiny one players that are raised and upset. The destiny two is different in these ways.
Starting point is 01:26:13 Well, and they're not completely wrong either. Now, now that's this guy's fucking name. His name is hero. Energizer was it? Energizer X good for him. And yeah, they came out and had their little prepared message that they had copied on the clipboard. Yeah, they just control me.
Starting point is 01:26:34 So Sterling pointed out when he was looking at this, I think was Sterling, but probably where it's like it's becoming more and more and more obvious how ready these statements were and how how ready to hit a button and make it go away, it is a lot of people have a lot of prepared statements these days. I prepared a statement for that. Like it's ridiculous. And the whole like, why are you outraged? We fixed we fixed the problem thing that was not working as intended.
Starting point is 01:27:07 And then the the portrayal, the thing that actually grosses me out like that, you know, I kind of get it is like MMOs do this exact system, but they're honest about it so no one cares. And you could buy levels in MMOs now. It's very common, right? But they hit it and then they try and portray it as like, oh, the system we were working on wasn't working out and we just happened to be fed up with it at the exact same time that everyone else was fed up about it,
Starting point is 01:27:36 which was the same time that the system got found. It's so patronizing and so condescending. I also think that MMOs are in a different place because the people playing them know that they're paying for an ongoing service as opposed to the $60 argument. Well, you still have to pay $60 to buy an MMO. No, yes. But the idea that you're buying into the subscription at the end is innately different from your expectation of the complete package.
Starting point is 01:28:01 The explanation of Destiny's microtransactions has been explained away as that's what pays for the live update deem instead of a subscription. But their live updates are not great. So their expansions are decent, but their live updates are minor. So it's kind of funny, like back in 2008, Tales of Vesperia came out and it was like one of, if not, I don't know, the first game that's like maybe you buy some levels and it was a new gross. And now every major,
Starting point is 01:28:32 OK, well, I'll tell you, a game that's come out in the last couple of months has some type of buy your I'll tell you, well, the fun part is that you can buy levels. Like these are all games that I've been worked on for years. So like they're all coming down the pipeline gold mastered with these things ready to go. And like up ahead, there's a huge fire on the on the highway and everyone's just kind of like hit the brakes and they're like, but think of games that started development exactly one and a half years ago, games that are going to be done
Starting point is 01:29:02 by the end of this year that had planned for shit like Battlefront and are now going, oh, yeah, yeah, right? Yeah, violently hitting the brakes, pulling the handbrake. We're delaying it by by a year to completely rejigger everything in the fucking games economy, you know, but like like pulling off on the side of the highway, trying to change the car into a different type of vehicle to get off the bumper. Can we change the frame? No, shit.
Starting point is 01:29:31 Matt, I do have one thing to add. The buying levels thing is like the best barrier. I think MMOs did it before then, like just buy all the way to cap because wow. That's the only time I remember the first hub I've ever heard about it. I wish the first time I ever saw it was in I think I talked about it last time, but the Eternal Sonata where you on three sixty, where you buy gold and buy but that was my favorite after Vesperia. But I will tell you one thing about the culture of an MMO.
Starting point is 01:29:58 People look down on those people. People look down on the people who buy their way to cap. So that's the that's the interesting thing is is in that there's an article I read about like the idea of loot boxes and gambling and such like that and whatnot. And and the the whole thing with MMOs where it's like people see that and there's part of the culture where people make fun of you for not displaying so patience. So it's it's not that doesn't happen in every type of game. So there's two reasons for that, right?
Starting point is 01:30:29 One is the patience and it's like you paid extra money to play less, right? And it's just like a value proposition kind of thing. And for the purposes of this, those things in MMOs, like I've been calling them jump potions because the 14 development guys call them that, but whatever, it's a because you jump to cap with this item, right? The worry is not so much that, oh, look, Jimmy ruined it for himself. The worry is when you load into a dungeon and you look at the your tanks gear and you look at him and you know that's the set.
Starting point is 01:31:05 That's the stats that come with the fucking level up to cap. But this is going to be miserable because they don't know how to play the game. And you're reliant on them to play it to a certain degree to not make your trip through a dungeon two hours, right? That's why people look down on those people in a cooperative environment. I can see because you're going into a situation where you have to depend on everybody. And you can you can sounds like a part of it. But there's definitely a part where they're just like, yeah, I'd say it's about half.
Starting point is 01:31:38 So in 14, in particular, if you've been playing less than a certain amount of time, there's a green sprout next to your name. And if you see a green sprout in certain areas, you just know. You just know that that person just bought their way up there. I saw a screenshot of it because I haven't played enough of it to get to the vendor that sells it. Well, since the Sanskrit origins takes place like, you know, 100 years before Jesus was even a breath on the wind. Do you know what the level up item that you buy is called in that?
Starting point is 01:32:08 What? It's the tablet of knowledge. Interesting. He just gives it to you. Interesting. And I assume by act just gets a little like yellow power like bar that like power circle that kind of erupts around them or whatever. Have you ever seen that in any of it? Like, did you ever get to the vendor that sells the tablet? A little kid. I saw a screenshot of like an older guy.
Starting point is 01:32:33 Oh, I don't think I've met that guy. OK, I think it's in one random store in the game. I've dug real, real deep in that game and I never saw that guy. Well, in any case, this is something that popped up and like within hours almost an answer was prepared and dropped from Bungie. So players are not going to stand for it. And that's that's interesting to see. What also is interesting to see is more than just players.
Starting point is 01:33:02 But the entire nation of Belgium appears to also be not standing for it. Yeah, so this was this is week three of Battlefront fucking it up for everybody. Belgium denounces loot boxes as gambling. Hawaiian legislator calls them predatory. The Hawaiian rep or whoever the fuck it is, you know, the guy wearing a suit, the elected representative, calls Battlefront to an online casino for your children.
Starting point is 01:33:33 A Star Wars online casino for your children. Star Wars theme. Those are the words that are going to get right to the angry parents. Oh, yeah. And and they're like, don't let people buy this. Don't and and what's more telling, particularly for the US in which they describe we are talking to people in many states about upcoming legislation about this stuff. So it's it's well, Disney got on the phone with EA.
Starting point is 01:34:01 I was like, what are you doing? Yeah, you know, why are you associating Star Wars with gambling? Yeah, which is funny because there's Star Wars gamble. Sure. Yeah. Belgium's Gaming Commission has ruled that loot boxes in game purchases where you receive randomized are gambling. The countries and ministers of justice want to see them banned Europe wide. So Europe's weird and I'm not super sure how that legally works.
Starting point is 01:34:26 But as far as I can tell, the European courts go all the way up to the your through your nation to your European Supreme Court, which decides things legally for the Europe. Well, here's here. Let me combo break this story while I'm reading the story. OK. Because even newer because that was five days ago. But as of yesterday, the UK Commission determined gambling commission
Starting point is 01:34:52 determines loot boxes are not gambling under British law. Well, so now the year the EU is at odds based on these two countries. Stances UK is leaving, remember? Oh, well, they're on their way out. Either way, the UK is like, no, loot boxes are fine. But Belgium's like, fuck those things. I'm interested to see. So this is already playing out in a completely interesting way.
Starting point is 01:35:13 Now, Australia is fully on board with the fucking gambling shit as well. And I think that I saw a quote by somebody going, this is obviously gambling. Now, here's the problem from somebody in a position of power. Now, here's the problem, though, right? Is when you have like major markets that are at odds with these types of things, you just get the Australia situation where the company would rather keep their shit in and not release it in those territories, right? Then remove it and release it in all.
Starting point is 01:35:41 Right. Which stops working once enough territories. Yeah, go the opposite way on it. Right. Yeah. And so it's like, if Belgium can push it all the way up to Europe and it's Europe and Australia, that's a lot. Even though Europe's game industry is not, say, North America's or Japan's, certainly, it's still like a third of the English speaking, like, population.
Starting point is 01:36:05 You're going to have to weigh, you're going to have to weigh your money versus the amount of sales you make in those countries. And then like, think, think of how, like, gaming communities react to stuff like Destiny 2's XP shit and in battlefront stuff. Imagine if they're like, here's the American version of the game with all the gambling shit still in it. Oh, man, that would be interesting. Like if they release two versions.
Starting point is 01:36:30 Yeah. Well, because that's what that's what Blizzard does. Yeah. It's China and everybody else. It's true. So they can hide the loot box percentages. Right. Right. Right. Or you put it all into like a separate piece of DLC. Yeah. And then you make here's the game. DLC pack unavailable in those countries. Yeah. That's the other way to do it.
Starting point is 01:36:50 Cut off your nose, like the disc is free of that crap. Cut off your face. So it's like, don't download patch X, X, Y to because it adds the FOB system into MGS five, basically. Yeah. Yeah. But only in the US and parts of Europe. This like this. OK. So what a fucking mess. Let's go through it. Let's go through it.
Starting point is 01:37:13 So in Belgium, they decided last week to look into the issue and. Yeah, they came to their decision. The ESRB rejected calls to classify loot boxes as gambling. Fuck off, ESRB. You are literally the organization that is supposed to classify it as gambling. So they've already made their stance. So the ESRB's real gambling or simulated gambling labels are not going to appear
Starting point is 01:37:45 on games that have loot boxes. After ESRB, then Peggy stepped in, took a weaker stance. That's the European ESRB. Pan European gaming gaming information ratings. Peggy, 18. It's the only reason I know. Telling WCCF tech that only national gambling commissions could decree whether or not some things can constitute gambling.
Starting point is 01:38:13 Also, Peggy's like, we're not even getting involved. And it's a national issue. I believe Peggy's stance actually includes works for everybody, like the United States Gambling Commission and the Canadian Gambling Commission, the next. Everybody, right? Those are the ones because ESRB is the one saying we're not going to put the label on it, right?
Starting point is 01:38:36 But whether or not it's legally classified as gambling is not up to the ESRB. It's up to whatever government agency handles that in whatever country you're having to be, right? So the ESRB might not put the label on it, but then if the gambling commission comes down and goes, this is fucking gambling, then you best be sure that the ESRB is going to put the label on it so those games can still be sold. So every organization is actually kind of like clashing on who has power.
Starting point is 01:38:59 They're all passing the buck unless it's the ones that are actually up there. And those are split or undecided currently. Yeah. And who's who's willing to not be friends with EA and Activision. So here's the deal, right? Here's what I actually see occurring. And hold on. There's conflicting reports about and translations about what precisely the
Starting point is 01:39:18 Gambling Commission has decided as per four gamers.be. Games has made his views clear. But contrary to this news report, the commission itself is still investigating. OK, we'll go. So here's what I see occurring. So this is this is kind of a situation very similar to the YouTube fair use thing. Yeah. And it's like
Starting point is 01:39:38 nobody wants it to go to court because everybody's much happier with the gray area that we all live in, right? EA and Activision and all those companies don't want to risk the government getting involved, the government getting involved. That's why the ESRB exists. It is much better in their interests to back it the fuck off. Then let it escalate for quite some time. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:40:02 So that this shit goes away until it eats off. Yeah, because the moment the moment you get to that federal level because the dice roll could go in their favor and that would be great. But the dice roll could outlaw it forever. The moment you get to that federal level, you are completely impacting the future of your industry for the foreseeable future. And I mean, say EA rolls the dice and fucks it up. There are other competitors in the industry are going to like
Starting point is 01:40:28 want to do everything they can to see that company just die as a result of stealing trillions of future dollars, trillions of trillions of dollars. Yeah, that's what we're talking about. Because those kinds of legal decisions are essentially forever. OK, so 11 trillion. Now, the US still can't have gambling on land in a lot of states. Yeah, gotta be in a boat here in Montreal. If you have gambling machines in your bar, they can only be there if they've been
Starting point is 01:40:57 sitting there when for years now as a grandfather in the situation. I think it is that you have to build your bar around it. Yeah, you can't you can't make a bar and install a new video poker machine. No, but if it was already sitting there when you built the bar, if there was an empty lot, but there are some lottery machines, some gambling machines, then those video poker machines are poisonous. Yeah, they are the worst. And that's it.
Starting point is 01:41:21 Gotcha is the worst. There have been there have been like attempts on lives to buy to purchase buildings where those video poker machines are still standing. Yeah, straight up. So the commission said we just have a casino in the city. Just go to the casino. The UK Commission said while the line between video gaming and gambling is becoming increasingly blurred, its job is to step in when the practice meets
Starting point is 01:41:43 the definition of gambling under the UK law. Belgium recently pushed a ban, permanently banned loot boxes and established its own gaming commission. Yeah, OK. So so basically the UK, even though they back down, they already they're saying that like it's still not a great situation. They back down and they're like, we're going to pass this down to the gambling guys and they'll they'll tell us what's what and we'll get back to you.
Starting point is 01:42:12 Hmm. They passed the buck to the gambling commission, which is honestly thinking Quebec could be up to the Régis d'Alcool, right? The same people that Quebec gambling commission. Well, they handle the lot of stuff here. Yeah. Well, hey, guess what? This shit under Quebec law specifically is almost assuredly gambling. Oh, it's gone. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:42:31 We live in a place in which this is likely to be gone first. Yeah, yeah, because you can't. Hey, if you're in the States, particularly, you see a lot of fucking sweepstakes and lottoes and shit, you know, you go to a coffee shop and it goes and at the back, it'll say valid in the US and Canada, except Quebec, because Quebec has a really, really strict lottery sweepstakes and gambling laws. And in fact, you have to pass the skill testing. We are the reason we are the reason for the skill testing question.
Starting point is 01:43:02 So the skill testing question is if you win the lottery in Quebec and in some parts of Canada, I think, but it's mostly Quebec. I think I'm mostly when the lottery. They give you a simple math question. Now, it's really simple. It's like two times three plus five or something. It's to make sure not a robot. But if you don't answer it, because you cannot, the skill has to be a portion of cannot be random chance.
Starting point is 01:43:23 And if you fail that simple math question, that money is gone. You don't win the money. You better be on point. So yeah, so loot boxes don't have skill testing questions. They are skillless by default. Unless they decide to have like a huge sweepstakes here where they say now they have to juggle for a minute and then they increase it from four items to five. Put everything in this one bag, but we don't want the bag to be heavy.
Starting point is 01:43:54 That's the skill. That's how you win the prize. We have it's Quebec's crazy like that. Whenever I saw a contest, I would say there's a skill testing question. I always get real nervous and I wouldn't even enter the cereal box. Yeah, usually I'll be like, no, man, I can't do too much. I would read it and I remember like I'd read it like five or six times just to make sure it's pretty interesting that we're basically living in the Petrie
Starting point is 01:44:17 dish of this current argument, because what's going to happen? Because it's I know the government here has done it before in which they go, OK, from this date, this thing will no longer be available here. Games without English booklets were not available here for a minute. Yeah, for like a minute. Like they don't Quebec does it right here. And there's always this point where it's like, OK, from now on, this is the way it is, right?
Starting point is 01:44:44 And so with the packaging stuff, they they made the bilingual packaging and it's fine, right? But there's that month or two where it's too late to change the games that are on their way. And that game, those there is going to be a period of like a month or two months or three months in which games like this will just not be available to be sold here. And I'm really interested in seeing what ones those are going to be. I'm really interested in seeing if they're if they're going to try to stop it on a digital level.
Starting point is 01:45:13 No, I don't think it's a lot of work because that's why I'm not as worried as I was back in the day when Ninja Gaiden remake original was coming out. That was one of the first booklet issue games because really? Yeah. Did Ninja Gaiden original release was like the Xbox? Not. Yeah. Xbox original, not shipping. It didn't ship with the French booklet and it got held up at the the the the game store that we used to have downtown. I remember and then for a while it was like, are we going to get it here or not?
Starting point is 01:45:44 And they're saying we might have to just import American copies, but that means we're selling them in a markup and we all panicked. And I remember I remember that. So I remember like Steam and PlayStation Store and all that shit. They ask you for your address for tax purposes, right? Yeah. So you could change that. But I mean, Steam, it's really easy to get around the IP lock. And PlayStation Network doesn't currently charge tax.
Starting point is 01:46:11 So it doesn't actually matter what fucking location you put your PayPal as. There's ways around it. And if that way is so simple as just buying an American, an Ontarian copy from Ottawa, you know. And lastly, let's take a quick look at a this is a Kickstarter game popped up for a game called Super Mighty Power Man. Yeah. And oh,
Starting point is 01:46:43 it got canceled, but it got cancelled because there was too many publishers interested in gathering up all disappointed Mega Man fans. Hey, listen, you got a Mega Man looking game. Is it, you know, in your studio? No. All right, you're hired. Yeah. And so what they're doing is, I mean, it was it was a 50,000 pound goal, right? Yeah. So it's Mega Man. And as as the trailer goes on, I was like, you know what?
Starting point is 01:47:11 This looks pretty neat. Yeah, because the bosses are kind of like Mega Man X bosses where they're all animal based, but the rest of the game is still like classic Mega Man. And some of the powers are actually really sick. No, you're why exactly. So you're watching it going like, all right, you're going for the Mega Man thing. But it's like, no, no, no, this looks like he's doing a good job. Really, our suits have all moved.
Starting point is 01:47:33 They all have movement options. Look at this. Yeah. Yeah. You got a nice little swing on the crab suit. Yeah. It's unfortunate that it's named Super Power, Super Mighty Power Man. There. Perfect. You just nailed the exact problem. A little. I think you couldn't end this. Yeah. Maybe it will get named something. But it's also a little unfortunate how much the main character looks like a bunch
Starting point is 01:47:54 of sprite edits of Mega Man. Kind of. Like it's a little too close. Like, look how amazing that boss looks. But Power Man. That boss actually looks a lot like he's at a rocket night. Kind of. With the way the arms move. Mm hmm. And don't forget that there's 20 X DX, right? The other. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:09 There's that option to multiplayer Mega Man. Mega Man fix. So yeah, really interesting work. Because usually, you know, a Kickstarter, a nice looking Kickstarter will get approached, but they'll be quiet about it and then get the funds and then reveal later that deep silver or we have almost all the time. Yeah. And these guys just came right out and went, no, no, we're out. But they also said is because they didn't want to over promise and end up being late.
Starting point is 01:48:38 That's fucking. That's never happened. That was another reason why. So yeah, when I saw the logo, I was like, eh, but when I watch Gameplay, it looks like a game play looks fun. I'll play those suits are worthwhile. Yeah, something really cute. Like, yeah. All right. So we got a lot of got a lot of emails this week.
Starting point is 01:48:57 I read a couple of emails last week. They're bad. Oh, the ones I read weren't bad. Were they? But no, the ones I read were fine. But like, boy, there's a lot of bad emails in there, man. Really? Oh, yeah. You don't say. I do say. Yeah, he doesn't know about this. This is new. Well, Wally uses the dowsing rod to pick the emails.
Starting point is 01:49:14 Yeah. I I've had to resort to time saving methods. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But I got a bunch. So is it Mark, all delete and then get the one that was on the next page? That's very good. Hey, if you want to get your email deleted,
Starting point is 01:49:34 send it into Superbestfriendcast at gmail.com. That's Superbestfriendcast at gmail.com. And if somehow Wally misses it, it goes right to the archive. Deleted straight into the trash bin. Right next to Last Guardian. And all your all your undead baby file souls. Oh, man. Yeah. I'm dragged over.
Starting point is 01:50:01 All right. Oh, shit. Sorry, folks. So let's take one. Nathan says, dear conglomerate of Canadians, longtime writer, first time listener. If you were an antagonist, would you rather be the kind that hides behind all of their henchmen, money and resources for as long as possible?
Starting point is 01:50:23 Or would you actively hunt down the protagonist yourself? All right. So the guy who hides behind people gets it so bad usually always because he's spent so much time and everyone's the audience is bored by that point. They get so bad. You got to be actively pursuing. Yeah, I'm going to go active pursuit. And chances are, depending on the setting,
Starting point is 01:50:42 your active pursuit might be something that is actually you're not even a boss. You're an obstacle because you're undestructible. And then you might get a face turn. Right. So if you are Mr. X or if you are the saint of all killers, then you're not even a boss. You're just a force of nature that creates a wall that keeps the plot moving. Because if you wait around too long, then that wall pushes you forward. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:10 Yeah, because the guy with behind the henchman like Belger, think about poor fucking Belger, how bad he gets it. Sure. Or John Wick. Right. There's so many examples of it. It's very clear that that's the way to do it. That's what I say. I don't know, don't you just like speed up your own death by being the one that pursues?
Starting point is 01:51:33 Yeah, but you might not because if you're the if you're the bad guy, you're mostly you have the bigger shot of always dying against the hero. I would say that if you're the obstacle style hunter, yeah, there's a small chance you may actually survive and the hero will pass you by and you might become a playable character. Yeah, right. All right, there you go. Here, like the challenger that shows up and and just says,
Starting point is 01:51:59 hey, what's up, let's do this, right? That that guy always gets a little of some respect, right? Like Nelo Angelo showing up and going, snapping his fingers. Head bob and Dante's like, all right, fuck it, let's go. Now, another good example is Dark Knight in Shovel Knight versus Evil Empress. Would you rather be a Vulcan or revolver Ocelot, right? Of course you would. He gets to be an old man.
Starting point is 01:52:25 Yeah, forever. Pretty much, right? And like and or any of the like, I'm trying to think who has the who's the best example of it and there's a couple but like of the gung-ho guns, right? The ones that just kind of walk up to Vash and are just like, yo, what's going on? Yeah, you know why I'm here, right? Yeah, all right. Can we do it outside where no one's watching?
Starting point is 01:52:47 That's fine, man. Let's walk over there and fucking sort your shit out like those guys. They might come back. Yeah, they might come back. So absolutely, absolutely. Meanwhile, the Belgers of the world get kicked out of a fucking skyscraper. Yeah, and land on crying babies. Oh, man, I forgot about that.
Starting point is 01:53:13 Oh, man, that's the most brutal movie ending ever. Wait, no, no, no, I was I was you weren't referencing something. I was referencing Fighterpedia. What are you referencing? I was referencing a fucking SPL where that totally happens. All right. We got one coming in from Jordan. He says, good morning.
Starting point is 01:53:40 Help Desk at Hey Hatchie Day Care and Marriage Counseling. The other day, I read a Korean man who I called The Breaker and its sequel, New Waves, some martial arts, East Indian, East Asian style crime drama. Highly recommended, but that's not the point in the sequel series. The events of the surrounding, the ending of the original series lead to a group emerging called Soldiers Under Command. They're a worldwide organization that clause the facets of every facet of the world, despite their ever present threat and their very existence.
Starting point is 01:54:11 Everyone calls them SUC or suck. What is the worst case of a threatening villains impact and greatness being reduced due to some insignificant detail? Oh, man. Oh, fuck. I'm going to. Oh, whoa. Sadler and Alpha is really bad.
Starting point is 01:54:32 I remember being a little kid and thinking M. Bison was a stupid name for a villain. Because I thought he was supposed to be like I had thought he had bison powers. I thought it was a buffalo man, because why would you call yourself bison? Every match to talk I ever had. All right, I got it. Let me think. Here's the moment.
Starting point is 01:55:00 I'm going to say the moment the big show tried to work the mic. In in and he started and he started dropping the last word. And it was just the worst start dropping the last word or no, even worse than that would be a fucking beefhead. Russell. Yeah, yeah, just looked at each other. Ultimate warrior. He's a dumb sort tattoo.
Starting point is 01:55:27 Brock Lesnar trying to talk on the mic without Paul Heyman. Yeah, that's a good example. Yeah, there you go. And it's already been brought up today in this podcast. It's the fucking Virgil mobile. Sure. Yeah, he's not. I mean, it doesn't rule Virgil, but it's in the one game that you don't even
Starting point is 01:55:44 care about that much here. Here's one that's another wrestling theme one. It's like at a certain age, it's not so much, you know, oh, well, it's fake or whatever, and that wasn't as cool as I thought it was. It was even before I realized that yeah, wrestling's maybe not on the level. So, man, Papa Shango is really cool. And then like another storyline, they'd be talking about like, I need to get paid
Starting point is 01:56:06 for wrestling and I'm like, Papa Shango must be paid too. He's not wrestling for free, right? And then I was like, well, then he's he's got to go up to like a person that gives the checks. Yeah, and I was like, it doesn't make it cool. Undertaker, the evil wizard goes down. Undertaker is the I first realized it with Papa Shango because he was new. Yeah. But then like, you know, I never watched
Starting point is 01:56:31 pay-per-views, so I didn't see the Undertaker that much. But when like I'd started watching wrestling a little bit more and I was aware of the Undertaker, I'm like, he's he's got to live like he's got to pay bills, even though he's an undead magic zombie, he's got to pay for gas. Job's a job. And even later, even in wrestling today, like they could be like, yeah, it's sports entertainment, but Dean Ambrose goes, I'm poor.
Starting point is 01:56:55 You're you're in the main event. Yeah, you have a title. They don't pay you nothing. But it's it's it's the biggest cafe breaking thing really when you think about it. So tangentially related. But I guess the realization that these characters have paychecks. Yeah, OK.
Starting point is 01:57:17 Yeah, it's weird. We got one coming in from Matt and he says, hey, guys, has there ever been an anime where you wished the main animation was in the style of the OP almost all of them because that's where the budget is? I think I don't want the show to look like this, but it would be really cool if GTO looked like its first intro for like a second or just for a moment because the style of the porn or graffiti intro of GTO was super duper dope. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:52 Trying to think of something as a drastic. I mean, there's the day there's the 3D models from JoJo, but I don't think they would look to the cost to rate in a prolonged exposure. Yeah, well, almost any 3D. I think I think brevity makes those models look good. Hmm. Yeah. So you don't look too hard at Caesar's arm. That's exactly it.
Starting point is 01:58:16 Right. Well, he's tilted up and he's doing that. Yeah, that exact moment. Don't look too hard at it. No, no, no. You can see the elbow in the back and your brain goes, wait, what? Yeah. And the other problem is you'd think that they would 3D models and anime would allow you to have super smooth animation, but it's the exact opposite.
Starting point is 01:58:36 The budget allows them to render things out at a really choppy frame rate, which always made no sense to me because I'll just be like, render it more. Like spend more time, just render it more. What's the problem? Yeah. Anyway, so I know kind of one. There's only one game I could think of that actually does it. But like, you know, an anime or even in Japanese fighting himself, like, you know, the intro to Last Blade 2, a character like looks like they look in the game,
Starting point is 01:59:00 then they turn and it has this sepia tone and it looks like they're drawn on parchment like an entire game you're describing set soon as moment. Yes, exactly. That's my favorite thing. So like an entire game that looks like that, that'd be really cool or a show or whatever, like, can you possibly do that for like 21 minutes? Then I thought of a game that actually kind of does it. And it's a gunman Clive. Gunman Clive, yeah, that's and that works for that game.
Starting point is 01:59:24 We were all really expecting Street Fighter 4 to look like that insane Okami ink brush thing. And we got a lot. We were thinking we got a lot in the main game, but not as much as we wanted. Well, and now in retrospect, I'm like, that was for the best. I don't think we got a lot. We got focus attacks that we got when you show you can the tattoos.
Starting point is 01:59:49 No, no, no, no. Yeah, on the move effects, on the effects, the ink blotch, not on all of them, but like a lot of them did have it on the upwards motion of the show. You on the spinning Tatsu on a couple of them. The later characters definitely didn't have this much moves that always had it. No, it wasn't. It's focus attacks. No, I mean, did if you exed it, no, not always, not always.
Starting point is 02:00:09 And certain moves and and then later on, they added colors, 11 and 12, which added the hatching, cross hatching shading and on the PC. You could kick it up a couple of notches one way or the other. So do a watercolor effect or something. It looked like shit. The water color blur. Yeah. So, no, I think, you know, those are some examples.
Starting point is 02:00:30 Street Fighter 5 looks real good. Personally, I think so, too. What is your Eduardo wants to know what your favorite case of real life limiters being removed is when you take your belt off after eating a big meal. That's a good one. That's way up there. My favorite example is probably when cheetahs have to chase down antelope. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:57 And like their bodies, they do a thing. Their bodies legitimately unlock the limiters on their muscles and allow them to go like dangerously fast to the point that their muscles would rip and destroy. But if they don't get that killed, they die. And and so they and they basically have a burst and the burst lasts for an exact amount of seconds and at that and at the moment that it runs out, no matter how close to getting the kill, they are, it stops moving immediately and the lactic acid kicks in and it just ended there.
Starting point is 02:01:29 Then basically cheetahs have a state where they can go into overdrive and then recovery. Yeah, it's fucking incredible. Yeah, it's they're still low tier, though. Sure. I'm not saying they're high on the Zerzuz chart. They can't they can't fucking defend that kill against anything because they're just crippled. Yeah. But the idea of having the built in burst meter. The recovery frames on that super massive cheetahs have installs.
Starting point is 02:01:54 They have dragon installs and then at the end, you go, oh, yeah. And then your counter hit of your hits a counter hit. Yeah. But until that first moment, you know, they can do it. I think one is like, especially when during the winters around here or whatever, this this general region is like, if you bundle yourself up a lot and you like maybe overcompensate it and you get inside a house or whatever and swarm again,
Starting point is 02:02:24 you're just sweating so bad and all I want to do is take off all my stuff. And finally, I feel like I can like be normal because I'm just like in this warm cocoon or just like feel like it holds you back because you just feel gross and like inside of your jackets sweaty. So I just want to get all that. I would say that my favorite feeling of a limiter is that you're going somewhere and you you said, I can carry all this stuff. Yeah, it's not a problem.
Starting point is 02:02:49 Yeah. And it is a problem. And it's the worst feeling in the world. Yeah, but until you put it down and then your arms feel like absurdly light. You can just punch it. I know what you mean. I don't do this for very long because it's incredibly dangerous. But all right, let's hear this stupid shit. Everybody ready?
Starting point is 02:03:10 Run for seven in Montreal winters and what not? Especially after a really, really intense boxing class. I'll just walk out. No, you stupid idiot. That's so dangerous and just to walk across the street and get to the depth to the corner store to get like a water or whatever. Just for that, like 20 seconds. That's poison for your immune system.
Starting point is 02:03:38 It feels incredibly nice to just get the cold air without like. He's drenched in sweat and he goes out in minus 10 and smoke is coming off the body. But it's just for a couple of seconds as I know that is the fastest way to get sick, man, that is so bad going from extreme heat to extreme cold is and vice versa. I know. Oh, man, especially if you're going back into a gym, which is kind of filthy by itself, if it feels everybody spit and piss everywhere, something like that happened, there can be so intense where it's like we're in Florida and super,
Starting point is 02:04:15 super hot, just super sweaty like warnings. We get into a car and then we turn on the air conditioning full blast. And since these cars are in Florida, they go beyond all air conditioning limits. And both of us got a cold in that moment. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just like clean and we started getting clogged up was so bad. Again, a couple of seconds only. But your whole body is like smoking.
Starting point is 02:04:40 And it looks cool. You feel real cool. You look at your face and it's a smoking face. It really is. It legitimately is amazing. All right. Kyle says, dear super brother brothers, once a year I rewatch the Last of Us play through. And every couple of months I rewatched the Third Strike Fisticuffs love those games,
Starting point is 02:05:03 their art and their gameplay and everything about them appears to be flawless to me. I consider them both favorites of mine. But here's the thing, I've never played them before. I've never even touched a Street Fighter game in my life and I don't own a PlayStation until recently, never had the opportunity to play The Last of Us. Am I weird? And have you ever fallen in love with a game you've never played? Final Fight Seven Suns.
Starting point is 02:05:28 I'm a little too hands on to fall in love with something like that for something I haven't actually been able to get hands on. Though I can like pine and appreciate from a distance. Like I can't personally go like, oh, I love that game. It's more like I love the idea of that game. Yeah, I'd say. But I don't watch LPs. If I did, I might actually change my my mind because there are there are genres
Starting point is 02:05:53 that I suck shit at that I would not be able to actually appreciate myself. I think there's a couple of like games that were not available. Like, you know, you can emulate or whatever, but it's like too much trouble. But like certain PS2 games that never made their way over here. Like for a long time, like you've you've heard me talk about this game before, Willie, like Chain Dive. I knew about Chain Dive for a while and I was like, I got to play this. I got in and like I went into more like kind of like, yeah, I just appreciate it.
Starting point is 02:06:21 And like, I really want to try it. And then another one was, yeah, Metal Wolf Chaos for the longest time until I got to play it. I was in Metal Wolf Chaos is the greatest. You know what? Ever. Matt is right. I'm wrong. There is a game that I love before I got to play it and it was a Metal Wolf Chaos.
Starting point is 02:06:37 OK, I mean, I was like a good six or seven years before we James Small showed it. Yeah, I can't like the question just I don't think it just applies. It's to me in any way that I can think of. But I mean, the closest would be like Gunslinger Stratos, where I'm like, I love everything about this game, but I need to try it. And then I went and I played it, you know, like Mosser Hunter, like whatever it is, it's going to is something that is going to be like it's just counting down the
Starting point is 02:07:03 time until you get a chance to play it. Yeah, because you haven't played World of So the yeah, I don't think there's ever been one of those situations where we haven't then moved on to actually playing the thing. I think said, I need to know if a game controls well. Yeah, it's like number two on my book. So it's no, I think it's not weird. I think it's normal, you know, but I don't think that means you love the game.
Starting point is 02:07:27 I think it means how did you love the idea of the game? For so long when it's been out on everything. Yeah, I think I think that for maybe Nintendo console. Well, it's like he just got he only got the opportunity to get a fighting game. You can still like appreciate like, you know, Mochi vs. Daigo or something in that fighting game. Exactly. Even though you can't ever do that. Yeah, Marvel, too.
Starting point is 02:07:47 I appreciate Marvel, too. Yeah, I learned to appreciate Marvel, too, even though I can't even look at it. Clockwork versus Neo is a fucking work of art. Yeah. Jeffrey says, Dear Lord of the Scrubs, is replaying Breath of Fire, Dragon Quarter, and I got to the part where you start turning into a dragon. Once I got to the game, introduced a new mechanic where a gauge fills up
Starting point is 02:08:11 and you use whenever you move or use your dragon abilities, the gauge fills as you use your abilities. Yeah, OK. Once it's full, it's an automatic game over. Yeah, this puts me in a this puts a really negative spin on using the dragon abilities, which are both super strong and fun. Yep. What do you think of a metric like this that puts a limit on the type of abilities you can use
Starting point is 02:08:33 and prevents you from freely using it? I know exactly what I mean, but I think Dragon Quarter is like this. That thing ruins that game. I think that's the worst implementation ever. Because here's the thing is I can see a I can see a situation where that's called for if the plot moment is strong enough, right? If what's happening on screen is an emotional thing where you're you're specifically trying to deliver a point,
Starting point is 02:08:55 then you can absolutely use a system like that. But in general, speaking from the point of view of what is good game design, the version of that you want to have is a normal situation where a normal character gets enhanced and then you can have and you have a limit on how fast things burn down that that system. And then perhaps there's ways to extend it by being really good at using it or something like that, but then you drop out to a normal state. In Dragon Quarter, that game has a straight up real
Starting point is 02:09:24 ass time limit on beating the game and just using the dragon form just burns minutes. It's so you never use it ever, ever, ever. OK, OK, it sucks. It's the worst, man. Yeah, again, sounds like sounds fun on paper in a diner coming up with interesting concepts for game ideas. But in execution, probably you said you had one. Yeah, Prince of Persia, the two thrones.
Starting point is 02:09:52 You play that game for about an hour and a half and you're the prince and you have to do a lot of stealthy sneak attacks. And when you turn into the dark prince, you get a completely new move. So you get a God of War chain and do lots of fun stuff, lots of different animations. Your health is constantly draining and you will die if you don't get through the print, the dark print section. If you if you don't do it perfectly, then you will die and you go back to the checkpoint wherever you were.
Starting point is 02:10:17 But the problem with the Prince of Persia game, at least you can't design a game around this, but it's like, all right, I have to look up in the environment. That's where I got to go. And you you like to plan out your move because it's a lot of combat being the dark prince that still wants you to do the platforming. And every time I replay that game, I get up to the like I've beaten that game once and every time I get to the dark prince again, like when I played it on steam, when I played the the HD PS3 version, I get to that part.
Starting point is 02:10:42 I'm like, yeah, I forgot how unfun it is. And that sounds like anti fun. Yeah, there's a way to do it. It's like, I just wish the penalty wasn't fucking death. How about one prince? One prince has like a Gears of War style sustained healing. Just don't take too much damage at one point. That's fine. And the other character has points of hits.
Starting point is 02:11:00 Yeah. And it's also because when you're the prince, you're supposed to make you feel like I'm a bad ass warrior. I can take it because combat's not really the issue. It can be if you play sloppy, but the actual thing is just you have to do it fast. And you kind of want I have a new character, basically, I want to explore. I can imagine it's like, oh, you're you're you're Nero, but you're always dying. Or your stamina is your life bar. Yeah, that too.
Starting point is 02:11:25 Oh, no, that's. It's just because the two thrones was also about to be called something else and be reworked completely differently. And it wasn't going to have that. It was called Prince of Persia Kindred Blades. There was an E3 stage show where that was the name of the game. Then they switched it all up and they put that weird limit on being the dark prince.
Starting point is 02:11:46 And I was like, why? It's a better name, but it's still a little bit of a terrible game. Like at the end of that one. That one's that one's OK. It's better than Warrior Within. That's the steel thongs. That's the dahak. There's no dahak on the throne. Should have been what a year.
Starting point is 02:12:03 Right, guys, says Ricardo. Yeah, it's been great. You might not be aware how crazy this year was. All right, let's hear it. Twenty seventeen started with the bang as Prince and Yuri continued their hunt for Marikov, which ended in an explosive showdown as seen in January in twenty seventeen in Call of Duty Modern Warfare three. Meanwhile. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:12:23 That's true. War War Three happened. Meanwhile, a man named Goodman tried to take over the Neo Geo world as seen in Neo Geo Battle Coliseum. This takes place in February. Twenty seventeen, twenty seventeen. Did it. While that's going down, someone else named Ethan goes through some insane ordeals in Delvi, Louisiana, as seen in Ari Seven. Yeah. And then in September, twenty seventeen,
Starting point is 02:12:47 Slick Clyde travels back in time to the seventies to try and take over America via car battles as seen in vigilante eight second offense. Oh, man. Wow. What a pull. That's crazy. I can hardly wait for twenty eighteen to roll around where we'll be greeted by some insane bullshit such as the plots of Metal Gear Rising, Trauma Center under the knife and Trauma Team. Then, of course, this leads to twenty nineteen, where House of the Dead Three takes place.
Starting point is 02:13:15 Oh, man. House of the Dead Three is in an apocalypse. Yeah, yeah, it's like the entire world's destroyed and your your ancestors. That's a good one. That's very good. There's got to be some eighties short snager movie that takes place. Like Running Man, I think we may have actually made it past. I mean, we're past back to the future. Yeah, we're past demolition, man. So no, wait, the initial part of demolition, man.
Starting point is 02:13:40 No, I think I think. Wait, hold on. No, I think in demolition, man. It's like twenty thirty six. I'm going to check because demolition is like an amazing movie. It's very important. It came out in ninety three. Yeah. OK. And the start of it takes place in ninety six or ninety seven. OK. Twenty thirty two. Twenty thirty is demolition, man.
Starting point is 02:13:59 I was a little off. If you have to steer the world towards one of these demolition, man. Easy. I guess trauma team would be cool. Traumatism is probably fine. Traumatism is normal, except you're in a universe in which people use Satan to heal you. OK, well, sure. There's also a Metal Gear Rising where I can I can get my blade pupper. Yeah, but the Metal Gear Rising has like.
Starting point is 02:14:21 Not sure if that's available to just civilians. The Metal Gear Universe at that point is really weird. Yeah, that means you have to live in the Metal Gear Universe. But but living in the Metal Gear Universe as a normal city means pointless living in a country where there's PMC's and you probably have nanomachines. Yeah, civilians. Well, he's all about selling out that human dignity for technology. All right.
Starting point is 02:14:48 What makes for a better story? Dare super best little girl with black hair hunters. OK. There we go. OK. We're doing a lot of that lately. Yeah. OK. The hero fighting to protect an evil within. Right, right, right, right. The hero fighting to protect the world from evil or the hero fighting to free the world from the evil that rules it.
Starting point is 02:15:10 Well, you're going to have to ask Ryu and Ken to finally sort that fucking question out. Then aren't you? I think freeing the world is a more compelling story. I completely agree. Yeah, I think so, too. Changing the status quo. I think the most interesting thing about Shin Megami Tensei is in the main line. It's like, you have to stop the apocalypse. Oh, the apocalypse happened.
Starting point is 02:15:30 You're too slow. You you fucked up or the guy behind you fucked up and the apocalypse happened. Fix it. Yeah, you can't fix it. Also, the idea of like freedom fighters, then learning how to live normal lives is always really fascinating to me because they can't. Yeah. Right. Welcome home, Frank. What the fuck? Like like Gurren Lagan. OK.
Starting point is 02:15:53 Let's try to do normal things now. Oh, God, how do we do this? I'm going over there. Yeah, I think I think it's a much more interesting story to free the world from its current chains. Because you get to see how the world's all jacked up by evil. Zachary thinks he's clever with a bunch of bullshit that he wants me to say. So I'm going to skip all that because you're not clever,
Starting point is 02:16:22 Zach Flame, but I am going to read this part of your question. If you could perform a man just a Mario Odyssey capture on any enemy from any game, which you could then stack like Goombas. What would it be? No, that's too much. That last share. Sure. Any enemy from any game, game, game. And you get to you get to hop out afterwards. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:16:50 So it's a one time experience like, yeah, yeah. Well, yeah. Oh, man. This is just what powers would you use for evil question? No, but you get away with it. Also, it's clean slate. You I could say Professor X is a fucking character you can fight against in that shitty X-Men 2 fighting game for the PS1.
Starting point is 02:17:11 Well, and then you could just be like, give me all the money. It's supposed to be an enemy. It's supposed to be an enemy. You can't just do it. That's a big one. So it has to be like Goombas or like, you know, whatever you fight, like the fucking the locust and like Gears of War or something. That's a hard one. Um, Mario capture.
Starting point is 02:17:34 I'm going to say. Fuck, that's too tough, man. That's too broad. No. Oh, I know. Because that would be shitty. Oh, what? I was like, if you pick any. OK, wait, I was going to interrupt. Yeah, I think I have one.
Starting point is 02:17:58 All right, let's hear it. The Nameless King. Do what? Bride a dragon. That's it. OK. Be a God. Yeah. Sure, great. Then the world sucks and you're like, you're in that place. And that's why I said any soul's bad ass comes with the fact
Starting point is 02:18:16 that you're all shitty and fucked up. But every character is shitty and all right, I got one. I got one. It's a little. It's actually from Mario Odyssey. I will be that fucking change per scoomba, the one that just vomits gold. Jesus, I'm going to I'm going to grab that thing and I'm going to fucking walk over to a big fucking hole in the ground and just vomit gold all day for like a week.
Starting point is 02:18:43 And then I'm going to kill it when I'm done. And then I'm going to have all this gold works for me. I got gold out of it. You get fucking killed by an undead eventually. Is there any what's a good one? I'd throw the hat on Dr. Manhattan. That's not an enemy in a video game. That's what the earth doesn't know.
Starting point is 02:19:09 There's a there's a Watchman game. Is he an enemy? You fight. Well, he's the man. He's the end of the game. No, no, he's not because that Watchman game takes place before Watchman. Oh, greater dog and undertale. Yeah, he's cute. Yeah, that's a tough one. He is an enemy.
Starting point is 02:19:28 That's a tough one. Is he really your enemy? Maybe we should maybe we should do homework on this. Come back next week with an answer because it's too good. I'm not doing that. All for the road. Oh, a fucking. Dio. Yeah, yeah, I guess.
Starting point is 02:19:52 Yeah, dip into Dio for a little bit. Do Dio for it. I would love to beat Dio. I don't never take that hat off. Get the big stupid mustache on. I don't think Cappy would actually be strong enough to give you just like pull it off or something. Oh, we can throw. Cappy can take over T Rex's.
Starting point is 02:20:10 The real question here is why haven't the Cap Kingdom? How hasn't the Cap Kingdom taken over all the strongest power in the world? Because I think that someone literally needs to throw them on. I don't think they can just hop on. But you see the move from place to place. Yeah, but you never see the move. All right, so just have have one idiot trick. Hey, hey, Luigi, you're an idiot.
Starting point is 02:20:33 Oh, throw throw me on to Mario. Now I'm controlling Mario now, you know, metroid. A metroid. You want to be a metroid? Yeah, just like just be able to then jump out. Yes, I want to see what that's like. What happens if you get frozen and then someone starts shooting missiles at you? Metroid.
Starting point is 02:20:51 Well, actually, if he takes too much damage, he'll fly out back to his whole body. Right? Yeah, that's that's how I guess I guess. Technically, you get saved. Wow, that is a tough one, though. That's a good question. All right. Bane says, Hi, there, please come up with something for me here. I just want to look cool on the Internet.
Starting point is 02:21:12 Cast. All right. Yes, OK, all right. I only recently learned of this via a loading ready run. But the phrase. What? OK. But the phrase to wooly someone comes from the Magic, the gathering community in Victoria, where it means pre-match
Starting point is 02:21:30 Johns because someone in the area with that name was well known for doing. There's a second wooly. And there's second John, but it's wooly and it's out in Victoria. Apparently, that's the case. Anyway, what level up sound, graph and graphical effect triggers the pleasure center of your brain, the hardest. Oh, what? Sorry, say it again.
Starting point is 02:21:50 What level up sound and graphical effect triggers the pleasure center of your brain, the hardest. I'd say I'd say being invincible, both in Mario and Sonic, classic 2D. No, level up sound. Oh, level up. Sorry, I thought I meant just power up. Level up sound and graphical effect. Oh, you level up and, whoa.
Starting point is 02:22:13 It's that terrible one for modern warfare to OK. That's when you level up in Wolverine X men, origins Wolverine. And he's. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And like shoots out of him. That's a big one. That's a Wolverine adamantium rate. Not a few rates, just Wolverine origins or whatever.
Starting point is 02:22:34 Yeah, that's a big one. I have two ones, not technically. Well, one is leveling up for sure. So the world ends with you, a big like heaven laser shoots down and these wings fly out and it's very, very satisfying looking. That's a big one. And the second, it's not quite a level up, but it everything about the way it rolls out is almost like opening a loot box
Starting point is 02:22:57 is when you're yourself, like when you max out the stress meter on a darkest dungeon character and then their virtue is tested. Right. Yeah. And then they either get they either get an ailment or they become virtuous. That moment of like triumph of like, oh, like the glow. And it's like they prosper over the moment. And like they come out on the other side stronger than ever is so satisfied. Just theoretically, that's awesome.
Starting point is 02:23:26 Right. Because you see them. Yeah, because you see them grab their head and go into that like maximum cracking state. You got to you got to break through the ceiling. And then they either like fly out of it more powerful or like break down and crumple. And it's like only that game does it. So Darkest Dungeon takes it for me.
Starting point is 02:23:43 I know it's a bit old and it's not all that fancy. All things considered, but there's always going to be a place in my heart for World of Warcraft's level up in that you have this explosion into a pillar of light that you can see from like a mile away. The big, the big light. Yeah, big light pillars is a safe way to do it. This is good. It's only it's only significant in that game because it's an MMO
Starting point is 02:24:04 and you can see it from pretty far away. You can see people like standing way away from you in a town. They just explode with light. It's like, oh, good for you, buddy. You dinged. I talked about it before already, but when you do level up in Assassin's Creed Origins, it's kind of subtle and also like it could happen in a conversation
Starting point is 02:24:22 with someone where well, let's say I'm talking to you and I just level up and you just see me my clothes are full a little bit and you see little yellow dust clouds spray out from like in a circumference around me goes in here to serve. That and they fade off. And that's it. It's like the opposite of Wolverine. Super subtle.
Starting point is 02:24:46 What slumber wants to know what you would describe your current fashion sense slash aesthetic as in one word. And if you could switch it to something a little more centric, what would it be or would you rather? The answer to that second one is no. And I'm going to go with. Forty year old cab driver.
Starting point is 02:25:13 Well, you still at least. He's missing. He's missing his Kango hat, though. What that is? I don't know. I would describe mine as I don't think we're world versus enough terms to really is. I describe my I describe my sense of style is, I guess, afro punk.
Starting point is 02:25:37 Yeah, OK, just make. OK, I describe my style as math core. Nice. I describe my style as skull chic. Yeah, well, that's really good. That's really, really good. I wouldn't want to change everything totally, but per situation. Like if I'm going to a party or some type of gathering, I wish I could just be like, yeah, and then just get a whole different wardrobe for that situation.
Starting point is 02:26:06 No, the second in general, I wouldn't do the second part of that question. The answer is no, because I just do it. Like if I wanted to change to another thing, I just do that or have that. So like if let's say I'm going to a situation where I'm like, I only have one thing of that. And I'd like to wear something different, but I don't have the the closet for that. You know, I wish that the whole wardrobe could change to like, like I wish it was a superpower I could get.
Starting point is 02:26:31 You know, if the situation warranted. I hear you. I think we did it. Yeah. Did you go through all the good emails? There was close to it. We had we had two more. OK. I felt like doing a bunch of these to compensate for the shorter weeks.
Starting point is 02:26:54 I hope. Yeah, I hope this one. And we're still on time. I hope we have at least one super terrible email. I can find one. Yeah, really easy. JJ wants to know, would you rather what do you like more? The the the new character taking on the mantle from the deceased slash retired character or or doubling down on their own thing. So what do you mean?
Starting point is 02:27:17 X-23 becoming Wolverine or Amadeus Joe becoming the Hulk. Yeah. Or very much just becoming the the night wing slash. I prefer them being their own thing. I think the mantle like carries weight in the sense that everyone wants to see a new version of the cool thing, because it's a bigger implication. But a lot of the time, the idealized version of what the mantle means is you put it on a pedestal and the actual guy was less than that. You know, so I'm a fan of individuality as well,
Starting point is 02:27:49 especially when it's inspired if it's inspired individuality. It's like, clearly, my influences were here, but I'm doing my own thing here. I like that better. I I like it when the the the origin is already a mantle that gets passed down. Like, I'm a fan of that. Oh, and of like Captain Marvel or something like that. Captain Marvel is a fan. I am not. Yeah, I'm not that.
Starting point is 02:28:09 Captain Universe. Yeah, I'm not that big of a fan of like, I'm the new Hulk. Like, no, OK, that's you're you're you're a different person. You just be a different person. Hulk was not a mantle. Yeah, I know he's a totally awesome Hulk. Laura's kind of a little different because now she's kind of Wolverine. You've got these powers and then the other guy's dead, right?
Starting point is 02:28:31 When it happens, sometimes like I'm not a fan of it. But if it's like a mantle gets passed down, it's like so I go either way, depending if the power itself actually travels from one person to another. Because I like Nightwing. I think Nightwing was cool. So it works out sometimes and other times it doesn't work. But what about Black Spider-Man, though? Which Black Spider Black Spider-Man?
Starting point is 02:28:49 Yeah, the Black Spider-Man. The black one is black. Yes, I I I hate that new Riverdale show. Yeah, really? Yeah, the writing's awful. I hate it. I hope it goes on for eight seasons. Wait, do you like it or do you hate it? Yes, that's that's that's one of the best tweets I've seen. I I saw watching that show after like a couple episodes because like fuck this.
Starting point is 02:29:18 And now Leanna is watching like season two and like I'm on the computer. I look up and here Jughead, tall boys coming to sacrifice everyone. We need to get the scribble scrabble to get in there. And before the Red Blood Moon happens, right, Arch. And I'm just looking around hamburger. No, yeah, doesn't even eat that much. Jughead, hate that show. I hope it goes on for eight seasons.
Starting point is 02:29:44 Something to hate. Lastly, we got one coming in from keeping me alive. Yes, no. And he says, dare Zach, the cat still pulling that YouTube money? Add Kibble from working these three corpses on puppet strings with an elaborate soundboard. Amazing. That's a really powerful soundboard. That's a God at that point.
Starting point is 02:30:01 Yeah. When I was 17, I had my friends over while my parents shot the shit upstairs. Decided to pop in Soul Calibur three as usual. We're having a great time playing some rounds and then we're interrupted by my dad nervously coming downstairs as a representative of the group, asking us if everything was all right and what we were doing. Turns out the repeated grunts from attacks and hit animations in many fighting games sound exactly like gay porn.
Starting point is 02:30:24 Yeah. Oh God. So I need to pop in Soul Calibur three and I don't and since I can't ignore it and muting character voices put vocalizations with me at a huge advantage in tournament play. Have you ever had any similar experiences that have ruined games for you? I remember getting a pirated version of Fear Effect 2 and then I popped that in and I was like, I don't like fucking 13 or 14. Right.
Starting point is 02:30:53 And the very first thing that happens in Fear Effect 2 is you go save the female co-star that is being like entangled by what I'm going to describe as a sex robot machine. With accompanying agony noises and like, of course, my older sister walks in and just goes the fuck and then leaves. And I'm just like, now the Fear Effect series is ruined because somebody saw it's that shit where like anime is normal until someone walks by. There's a vine.
Starting point is 02:31:22 There's a vine of a dude watching anime and then his friends walk in and it just turns into some creepy bullshit and he's like, no, wait. And it's normal before anime. And then they walk back in with friends and they get back to the same creepy shit. It's how it is. Yeah, that's exactly. That's surreal. This is kind of like sort of like that, but it's also, yeah,
Starting point is 02:31:43 maybe I shouldn't be playing this regardless is just because the the room in my parents' house that the computer was in was through one was on the other side of the wall of their their bedroom. And they're just like, yeah, they're just talking or whatever. It was just my dad or whatever. And I'm playing Duke Nukem 3D and he's like, are you playing a game or the only thing that happens is that you say, shake it, baby, over and over.
Starting point is 02:32:09 And I'm like, yeah, it's it's one of those learning tools where you learn like it beeps on the words and you're like and he's like, that sounds like you're lying and he comes over and he looks. He's like, that's one of those violent first person games. And I'm like, yeah. And I'm like, damn it. Why did I keep pressing spacebar on the stripper? Maybe the shittiest lie I've ever heard.
Starting point is 02:32:32 Yeah. But remember, this is also the time where I used to be like, yeah, it's going the next time after when they asked me to do. Yeah. Oh, yeah. A chore from downstairs. Like I thought I am the cleverest child turned down the volume. No, we're a headphone and have any at the time. Yeah, just the one headphone. That's all you know, I think really like that.
Starting point is 02:32:56 Besides that part in Majora's Mask where the baby's crying and like my mom getting super duper mad at that because it lasts for a while. And she's like, they're trying to desensitize you from the sounds of babies crying in real life so you keep playing the game. And I'm like, no, you're crazy. Um, and I guess like trying to watch clockwork orange in the middle of the living room while life was happening around me was a bad idea.
Starting point is 02:33:25 Yeah, so that's what. Yeah, I didn't know. But you knew now. Well, you knew now. Didn't know. Didn't know at the time, but I was messing with. What's coming up? What's coming out? Oh, man, we got more evil within coming at you. Willie's properly back.
Starting point is 02:33:45 So we're going to be starting recording new LPs with Mr. Wool, Mr. Wally here. His name, Mr. Wally. Yeah, tomorrow. I'm pretty excited about the one that I'm going to be in. Can I get? Yeah, intro's done. Cool. Yes. Yeah, good. Good.
Starting point is 02:34:02 So we can start tomorrow. We're starting an old. No, we've got to do more evil than tomorrow. Oh, man. That game's great. Yeah, I know. But we're starting Wednesday. All right, that's fine. Do we want to announce what that is? Um.
Starting point is 02:34:17 Now, let's. OK, let's let it pop. Let's let it pop. And you guys are going to be starting something up, which I don't think I actually know what that is. You do actually just forgot. Yeah, wait, no. I'm thinking back. I do know.
Starting point is 02:34:28 I just forgot. Yeah, you're right. There you go. Yep. So we've got two new LPs coming this week and LPs. Yep. Fire Peter will be back to normal. Fighter of Pedia will be back to normal. HD remastered. Oh, no, that's not back to normal. Fighter of Pedia is normal when it looks like shit.
Starting point is 02:34:46 It's true. Yeah. This is going to this is going to be weird. Weird. This is against its entire. I want to ask what you're actually going to do. You don't have those files in higher quality or something. Do you so live action files? No, but every other you can. Yeah, I can.
Starting point is 02:35:01 What I can do is re-render them better and we can make some some remaster. Oh, so it's a it's a remaster. It's not. It's what it's called. OK, it's like a real remaster. It's not like a yeah. So so it's a reimagining. Exactly. So we're going over it.
Starting point is 02:35:17 We're, you know, making it a bit better and we're, for the most part, like it's a remaster. Some things will be worse. Some things will be worse. But it's how are you going to make that amazing video series better? It's what the name implies. It is high definition and it is remastered. I'm very glad that you used a and no spoiler link to tweet that out
Starting point is 02:35:39 and be immediately retweeted a photo of a guy going, what the fuck is Fighter Pedia? So yeah, that's great. Now, if it's discussed, we'll be back to normal. Yeah. Yeah. Well, as normal as it gets, as it gets. Oh, boy, man. Got that Sega Saturn working finally. It'll break right right.
Starting point is 02:35:58 Well, no, no, no, no, it didn't break. Like I got it be able to be recorded. It'll because Saturn has not played nice. It's on fire right now, man. That's fine. Yeah, I don't know if there's any real games or stuff coming out. Like I know I forget when Xenoblade comes out. I think that's next year.
Starting point is 02:36:16 No, it comes on this either the end of this month or early next month. Huh, really? Yeah, it's I think it's. Well, next month is December. Christmas is coming, gang. We should probably get on that. I got to do.
Starting point is 02:36:32 Should we wear hats? I got to turn 32 first. Oh, boy. Oh, yeah, that's soon. Look at you, old ass man. I'm a step uncle now, too. Oh, congrats. Yeah. Melissa and David had a baby last night at like 5 a.m.
Starting point is 02:36:49 Wait, it's cool. Melissa and David. Step uncle. Step uncle. Yeah. Aren't you just the uncle? No, no, I'm an uncle in law. Yeah, uncle in law. Yeah, step uncle.
Starting point is 02:37:01 Step is the weird marital separation by divorce. Yeah, uncle in law. Yeah, I make a bad dad. I make a awesome uncle. No one really says that. So you're actually. Yeah, you're just uncle. That's fine.
Starting point is 02:37:13 Well, in my family, we don't do the uncle in law. It's just everybody in that tier becomes an aunt or an uncle. Yeah, no, no, that's it. And then like whoever whoever's like blood and they're married to this person, then you're just an uncle. Yeah, that's fine. So that's that that's fun.
Starting point is 02:37:29 Cool. That's good news. Congratulations to them. Thank you. Now you get to be cool, uncle. Yeah. That's your job. But don't be too cool, uncle.
Starting point is 02:37:41 Yeah, because then you get in trouble because like they're like, don't don't give him yeah and treats and shit. And I'm like, well, I want it too. Well, here's the question. If it's if his first words are God, she by the way, Godzilla predator. She that's good.
Starting point is 02:37:56 She then that's even better. Then Melissa is going to just like raise her fists to the hand to the air and get a crane shot out. Yeah. Yeah. Sneak little Godzilla's and got to buy more of these dinosaurs here. Enjoy the spiky action figure, baby. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 02:38:13 Yeah, no. It's literally all spines because the lesson in the special episode is always when you go hang out with cool uncle that always spoils you. If you turn out it turns out that cool uncle is super responsible and he can't actually be around all the time to take care of you. So you don't want to be.
Starting point is 02:38:30 I'm also actually the godfather, too. You get to brand it. You're going to. Yeah, I'm yeah. We're godparents. You're going to give us a rando right now. No. OK.
Starting point is 02:38:45 I wanted a brand-o. But I'm going to this Godzilla. Yeah, I got it. That could be anybody. No, I the thought was there. The thought is what counts. So yeah, we did it. We did it.
Starting point is 02:38:58 I say well, he's just kind of staring into space. It's fine. Yeah, I was just trying to think if there's anything else, but I don't think there is. Not really. Matt, you doing any streams this week? Yeah, Wednesday, I'm going to stream something that a lot of people have been telling me to stream.
Starting point is 02:39:10 I still don't know why they're like, you'll like it. What is it? Doki Doki Literature Club. You'll like it. OK. It starts with Doki Doki. Yeah, but it's a free game on Steam. OK.
Starting point is 02:39:23 So I'll be doing that on Wednesday night. That's the point. Is that safe? Yes, it is. It is. Yeah, no, that's one of those things you actually have to confirm. OK, because the screenshots don't help
Starting point is 02:39:33 because they're all like I heard your pushing limits over there on the block house. No, because all you really need to do is when you're on Steam, just look at the tags. Yeah. And it just says the psychological dating sim, violent, big boner, horror. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:39:48 And if it doesn't have big cocker in it, then you're fine. Big cocker? Yeah. Hey, where's your stream at, Matt? Matthew McMussles at Twitch. Yeah, that's where it is. TV Twitch.tv.twitch. You did it.
Starting point is 02:40:02 Slash Matt. Hey, Willie. Yeah. Is there anything coming up on Willie versus this week? There's some stuff being worked on, but probably not ready this week. Well, it'll drop when it's ready. Oh, OK.
Starting point is 02:40:15 Are you becoming Romero or Carmack when it's done? No, but I'm definitely breaking free of the idea of the schedule and just kind of going. Not, man. You already have a schedule right here. Why would you give yourself a schedule? Exactly. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:40:36 I might stream at Angriest Pat, probably. I don't know what, though. So check that if you want, I guess. Cool. Better at shilling yours is stuff that I'm better at shilling my own stuff. How do we get out of this flash at Dose Dive? Um, think about something that makes your dick really soft,
Starting point is 02:40:56 and then I'll distract the rest of us. Here, Willie, look at these biker mice. Oh, yeah. Yeah, look at the biker mice. Look. Oh my god, Willie, it's like there's a black hole opening up in your torso to suck your genitals into it. Here we go, off the rails.
Starting point is 02:41:22 Don't you know it's time to raise ourselves? It's freedom like you never knew. Don't need fabs or a pass, say a word. I'll be there in a flash. You could say my hat is off to you. Oh, and we can zoom all the way to the moon from this great wide wacky world. Jump with me, grab coins with me, and yeah.
Starting point is 02:41:50 It's time to jump up in the air. Jump up, don't be scared. Jump up, and your cares will sew away. And if the dark clouds don't just work, don't fear them, shed a tear, cause I'll be your one-up girl. So let's jump up super high, high up in the sky. It's no power up like dancing. You know that you're my superstar.
Starting point is 02:42:21 No one else can take me, then it's fine. I'm looking the switch. Get ready for the sun. Let's do the RSC. RSC. Yesi. RSC. Yesi.
Starting point is 02:42:39 RSC. Yesi. RSC. Yesi. RSC. Yesi. RSC. Yesi.
Starting point is 02:42:48 RSC. Yesi. RSC. RSC. Spend the wheel, take a chance. Every journey starts a new romance. A new world's calling out to you. Take a turn off your path.
Starting point is 02:43:09 Find a new addition to the cast. You know that any cast needs a crew. Take any strategy moves I decide they're just different points of view. Jump with me, grab coins with me, oh yeah. Come on and jump up in the air. Jump without a care. Jump up cause you know that I'll be there. And if you find your short on joy.
Starting point is 02:43:40 Just don't forget that. You're still a fine up boy. So go on trading up your cash. Let your toys begin to tap. This rhythm is a power shoe. Don't forget you're the superstars. Know what else can make it this far. But go through that stash.
Starting point is 02:44:04 Now you've got panache. Oh, let's do the Odyssey. It's time to jump up in the air. Jump up, don't be scared. Jump up and your cares will soar away. And if the dark clouds start to swirl. Don't fear to challenge the gods. I'll be your one up girl.
Starting point is 02:44:33 Now listen, all you boys and girls. All around the world. Don't be afraid to go up and move. You know that we're all superstars. We're the ones who made it this far. Put a smile on that face. There's no time to waste. So let's do the Odyssey.

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