Castle Super Beast - SBFC 234: Ass Sliders are a Quality of Life Feature (Feat. Mr.Clemps)

Episode Date: February 20, 2018

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Alright, the gang's all here. Matt, you look different this week. Let's get right into it. You sound different too. Let's get right into it. I recently learned that the reason we call limies limies is because the term originated. We did this on the podcast. Due to sailor shithead.
Starting point is 00:00:34 What? We did? We did this on the podcast. I did this exact joke on the podcast. We looked up the definition of limies last week and tried to understand where it came from. It was from scurvy. It was on live on the, what is it?
Starting point is 00:00:47 That was that, I, I remember the knowledge. Chad. Great intro. Oh. I remember the knowledge, but not where I got it. Do you smell burnt toast? Yeah. Fun fact about burning, but we'll get into that later.
Starting point is 00:01:03 Oh yeah, yeah. Hey man, what's up? Hi. Welcome to the podcast for Real Zeased this time. Hey. I'm here, not in England. Yeah. Why don't you introduce yourself?
Starting point is 00:01:12 Hi everybody. I'm Mr. Clems. I do YouTube videos on JRPGs and other things. You want to, you want to eat that mic, by the way. I'm going to eat, it's so hard. Okay, I'm going to get nice and close. Is this better? Well, whatever is comfortable, if anything, you can lean back, but you can just pull it
Starting point is 00:01:27 towards you. You can just pick it up and literally just pull it back towards you, but you want to eat the mic a little. You see how we're, you see how we're like eating it, like up in its face. You want to, you want to confront that microphone and show it who's boss. Are you too weak to lift the mic stand? You want to loosen, you want to loosen that part. Not that part.
Starting point is 00:01:44 This bit. No, no, no. The one that looks like a, like a barbell, a little bit, like an old school, timey barbell. This is some stupid shit. You want to twist that? Uh huh. Push it down. Push it down.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Okay. Pat, go ahead. I'm trying so hard. Oh dear. Such a weak bitch. Oh my God. All right. We'll get there.
Starting point is 00:02:01 We'll get there. I'm sorry, guys. It's my first time. We'll guide your hips. Yes. Okay. Okay. Thank you, Pat.
Starting point is 00:02:09 Thank you for helping this poor baby boy. Such a bitch. I'm stuck. Oh my God. It's all falling apart. Wow. Wow. Podcasts are happening.
Starting point is 00:02:18 You're glue. You look okay. Looks good. Okay. There you go. Okay. Up in his face. Fuck you, microphone.
Starting point is 00:02:26 Sorry about that, guys. Yeah. I missed a climb. So do YouTube videos. Recently, I kind of got a big boost due to doing videos on Dracon Guard and near-near-autometer, filling people in on the stories, doing summaries and analyses. Getting everything wrong. Pretty much.
Starting point is 00:02:43 You are the near-man. I'm the near-man. Yes. Hey, welcome. It's on a podcast. Thank you so much. Claps is visiting for a week of vacation in Canada. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:52 I've been to Canada so far. Canada is wide, it's tall, it's got a lot of snow, and the bartender's pretty good. You won't shut the fuck up. Why did you pick Mud Week? Because it was convenient, I guess. Okay. It was convenient. The timing just worked out.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Yeah. You just passed Slush Week, and now we're on to Mud Week, but like, granted, the weather has been accommodating to him the past couple of days. Certainly. No, no. There's no frost walrus outside. It's fine, but it's just an odd time to choose early February or late February. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:03:30 I don't like the cold. Okay. So it fits. It's a contrast from the usual. Let's just say it feels just like home. Okay. I go from England to Canada, and the weather is just like, it's like I haven't left. So it's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Well, I always thought England was all rainy and foggy and the big stink. It's super rainy. He has been complaining about the sun the whole time he's been here. Okay. I walked out. I walked out and I was like, oh, it's really bright because it was like reflecting off the snow and everything. It's like, yeah, it's fucking 1pm, man.
Starting point is 00:04:05 It was really bright. It's the middle of the day. Oh, crap. It's a kind of thing like in England, whenever it's the winter time, seeing the sun and having like just cold weather is kind of rare. Usually it is just gray sky, rain. Yeah. It's just nasty.
Starting point is 00:04:21 So to come here and actually see the sun out a lot is kind of surprising. It's really nice though. No car. Yeah. No car. Let's get some vitamin B. D. D.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Yes. D. Vitamin D is the sunny one. Also, it doubles as a pun for penis. Hey, now, I don't need any more of that. Because you can tell. Vitamin dick? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:43 No, because you're like, hey, you need some D. Vitamin D. Get it? Listen, I've been hanging out with Clems a lot, but the jokes are godawful now. These are so bad. You cannot blame me. The quality has been quite low from the moment I stepped it to the office. I do have to say it's been a little bit subpar.
Starting point is 00:05:04 We'll write it out. We'll see where it takes us, but I'm a little bit concerned. I'm not going to say I'm doing my best, but I'm saying I'm doing my best to try somewhat. We have evidence that you're not doing your best, but we're going to write it out. Okay. Yeah, no, but hey, you're doing the coast to coast or how are you planning this out? I'm just staying in Montreal for a few days. Just staying here.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Just to hang out with us pretty much. Pretty much, yeah. Just to hang out with you guys. Okay. And then I'm going to head back in a few more days and just continue the usual shiitake. Right on. Just continue on with YouTube. You have to finish that fucking near analysis.
Starting point is 00:05:44 I know I do. It's killing me. Yep. Yep. It's pretty fun though. Yep. Don't watch that. You really don't have a big spoiler.
Starting point is 00:05:52 No. Obviously. Well, I mean, that's why I'm like, this is going to be okay. Let's see what we can breach here as far as topics go. Don't talk about near. Not near. Don't talk about. Not near Automotor.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Oh, no. Maybe some Dracon guard because I care a little bit less, but don't worry. Everyone cares a bit less. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, these games are shitty. They are. They are, but I love them.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Well, I like what they represent according to like what Liam has explained to me when it comes to the whole like branching endings, creating. Oh, yeah. Oh, it's really interesting. That's a really fun way to do things. And that is like any high school kid that has way too much time thinking of their own world. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:28 Like that is just like your wet dream of like, oh man. And then at the end of my main story, you're going to have all these branches that go into their own separate. It's so like that. You know, it's really, really like it's when you plan out the quadrilogy before you have page one. I still love the fact that with the final ending, the joke ending, I've said this on the did you know gaming video, basically, he got so much like backlash for it that he locked himself
Starting point is 00:06:55 in a, in a closet. Wow. He just locked himself there so that the pun around the office was like whenever something bad happened. Oh, I wonder if he's going to go in the closet again. Wow. Completely isolated himself. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:07:07 And then he like made fun of the branching ending things and Dracon guard free where they bring in another character who basically is like, Oh, she's like the timeline fairy. And she, her entire thing is she goes from timeline to timeline trying to figure and she's like, Hmm, this, this ending was bad. I wonder if the next timeline is going to be any better. So you can see he's completely aware of the nonsense he's creating. Oh dear. He's having fun with it.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Okay. Yeah. All right. As long as we're having fun with it. Right. Even though Dracon guard free was kind of poopy. It's crap. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:39 But the eye flower, dude, the story's cool. The game is bad. The game is, it's, it's not like Dracon guard one and two where it's like, these are kind of fucked up PS two games. That game is bad. The frame rate dips to about five during the big dragon attacks. And that is no exaggeration. It dips so low and the story is kind of, he's trying to be funny and the thing about Taro
Starting point is 00:08:08 if I've noticed is that he, his comedy isn't great. If it's in like long stretches, his comedy is good if it's in like little bursts like near-autometer. There's a lot of funny moments, but it's not like everywhere and in, in Dracon guard free, it's almost like he's trying to do a parody of Dracon guard and he fails. Okay. So it's like everything is a sex joke. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Everything. It's so obnoxious. That sounds a lot like Kojima actually when it comes to like, uh, his little bit. Bits and pieces and jokes from like, say snake eater compared to like the extended things with pause and, and, uh, a lot of peace Walker, like and whatnot where you're like, you just had, you had no, no like stage light to tell you to wrap it up. You know, that was always, you create exactly like you built the stage. So now you get to sit out here as long as you want and oh no, you're overstaying your
Starting point is 00:09:00 open mic night every night for Hideo. Yeah. And, uh, well, I was, I was going to say that, um, the, the, and it feels though, like really based on a, like, I guess some of that awkwardness and whatnot, that's also what kind of, I guess kept the original near in its like niche status, right? Sure. Whereas like, like most people were like looking at it going, like, if you've played it and you wreck it and you've gone through the whole story and multiple endings and you can see
Starting point is 00:09:27 that the writing quality here is incredible, but obviously gameplay is not super. They did their best. Yeah. They tried. They definitely carried it on their backs and took it to that next level where it's hard to put good writing on the back of the box. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Yeah. Yeah. The story is good. Yeah. Please play. Please buy our game. Like I gave the original, I talked about this in the LP with Liam, but like I gave the original near a shot completely separate from every person.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Yeah. Talk. No one told me to get it. I was like, oh, it's an RPG from Square that I didn't know about. And I got to the, uh, Christ, I got to the fishing village. I didn't get stuck on the, on the, I didn't get stuck on the fishing. That's surprising. But I was just like, fuck, this is okay.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Well, when you take a really long time to get to where it needs to go. Well, I'm sure like, I feel like, yeah, like probably we'll buy the, like the time you're going through that first like dungeon of little robots and bubble dodging things. Yeah. We're just kind of like, okay, video game, right? You know, there's other adventure, swordy video games. I can probably go play those. Play better.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Yeah. Yeah. The build up is so kind of slow and it's very comfortable in its build up, but a lot of people are just going to be like, okay, I've seen this so many times before, I'm going to go to something else that has better gameplay and, and yeah, cause like the thing with Neary's obviously it gets better when you reach that kind of mid point and then the story just goes, goes mayhem. I don't know what you would call it cause like, I almost want to call it the monster
Starting point is 00:10:55 hunter problem and that like you need to get in near get starts to get good once you reach the midway point, which is the first like first ending of the game. Kind of. Right. Yeah. It's like, to me, it's the time skip. Yeah. But it's, but like, I mean, monster hunter, you always needed to spend 10 hours to know
Starting point is 00:11:18 if you even liked it. Sure. That's too long. Yeah. That's too long. I hated monster hunter when I first played it. I started off with him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:26 I started off with the, the portable one. Um, on the PSP. I thought they were all portable. Yeah. I think until now. They started on PS2. Oh, they started on PS2? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Okay. Monster hunter and monster hunter dose are PS2 games. Freedom Unite. That's the one. Freedom Unite. I played that on the PSP and I just couldn't get into it no matter how hard I tried. Same here. I was really bummed out.
Starting point is 00:11:45 I was like, ah, this game seems like my kind of thing. The tutorials are the worst. Like the first five, six hours of tutorials are here's how you make potions with berries. It's like, fuck, I don't give a fuck. I, I would have to assume then hopefully like going forward, like he's honed his craft, right? Yoko Taro's pretty much is doing, are you really? Red Bull pisses already?
Starting point is 00:12:05 Oh no. Damn. All right. Well, I did it. Um, and, uh, yeah. And so the thought process would be that like, you know, I guess figures crossed from here forward, he's going to be able to do all the writing things and have likes not always necessarily platinum, but someone on the ones and twos for the gameplay to make sure that
Starting point is 00:12:29 like, you know, there's a, a, a compelling controller reason. Yeah. I, I just really hope that whatever he does next, we do get platinum again for that because that's what got so many people into near-autometer was the fact that platinum was doing it. They are a draw. Yeah. Especially like, I don't know, I'm not entirely sure how big they are in Japan, but people love them in the West.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Well, it's an interesting thing. Like, like people love them in the West, but like that amount of that people is still really niche. Right? And they're still a very small group of people that are all like, holy shit. Yeah. Fuck yeah. Gameplay and difficulty.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Right. So, um, and, and high octane over the top action. So I feel like there is a comp like it's, it's basically like two Venn diagrams that were completely separate from each other overlapping to create like enough noise being made by a small group of people that everyone goes, Hey, what's that over there? Oh, it's a, it's a to be ass. Okay. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:25 What's that all about? Yeah. They're such gradually kind of making their way over. I loved, I loved, I was talking a pat about this in the Uber on the way here, but there are so many developers who just like mince their words around why they make their characters. Yeah. We were making fun of the fucking SNK heroine's interview where they're like fucking, oh no, we didn't make them hot cause we wanted to.
Starting point is 00:13:48 There's a story reason that they have to dress up in these costumes. Of course they're very important. Yeah. Cause Coocree's forcing them to. Oh no. It's like, can't you just be like Taro? Yeah. He, where he's literally just like, no, because Taro's wearing a mask.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Fuck. He takes it off. Yeah. Apparently he did. Apparently he did. Well, he went to this big, I think it was the, um, stage play, the Yoha boys, the new one. Um, from what I've heard from people who were there, who like run a thing called fire sanctuary,
Starting point is 00:14:14 which was a big near fan sites. He came on stage without his mask and people went, what about new content Taro? And, uh, he said that Accord, who is the timeline fairy, Android from drake and guard three is, is in the kingdom of darkness. Right. Uh, I've explained this before, but the, the globe in near and near automata does not rotate. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:40 It's tightly locked. Yeah. So one half of the earth is completely. Okay. We're getting, we're getting into some more. Yeah. Hold on. Well, you've been watching the near LP.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Yes. I mean, I'm, I'm working my way, but have you not noticed there are no nighttime sections? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's because the planet is tidally locked. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:00 So that's a sentence. So basically everyone in the audience was like, ah, because Accord was like a fan favorite of that. So if we get a game with Accord, like who can literally go back in time, who knows what could happen with that? It's going to be legacy of cane defiance, but for near, I mean, it might not even happen. I've heard a few people tell me like, oh, what if it's another, another stage play? What if it's something like this?
Starting point is 00:15:19 I've had so many people just go stupid stage plays. But yeah. But no, there's definitely something though to be said for like, yeah, the having someone who's brazen to just go like, I like girls. Yeah. Yeah. It's an ass hometown. You know, like, but he's like, I love big tits.
Starting point is 00:15:38 Yeah. Okay. It's, it's refreshing, but not everybody. Not everybody is. Come on. Especially. And the other thing too is that you have to imagine like, like, you know, like Harada and stuff like that when they're doing all these interviews and every time they come
Starting point is 00:15:51 out of it, like someone that is behind them going like, now, now you know the current climate, you know, you know what you fucking mouth and then they're, they're like, and then it's a whole thing. So they have to think about their words getting translated and becoming a problem too and so on and so forth. The Americans are going to make fun of you if you talk about you jerking off into the machine. Sure.
Starting point is 00:16:10 So that's what it's for though, dance around it, no, just to dance around it, make it region locked and give them a fucking bowl, Montana, right? The chat of Chad's, yeah, that's, that's the solution. It's fine. I just, I like in my brain, it just, it just auto-corrects Chad at this point. So, um, I said it before and I'll say it again, I feel bad for Chad's, why do you feel bad for Chad? And when I say Chad's, I mean, guys who happen to be named Chad, oh, like real, like real
Starting point is 00:16:43 Chad's. Yeah. Okay. Like, hey, I'm a pretty cool guy. I'm a nice Chad. And you're like... It's unfortunate. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:51 If your names, if your names tend into a meme, just wee. Yeah. It's like if you're, if you're a girl and your name is Chastity, you know, or something along those lines and it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, hey girl, you look cool. Yeah. Hang out. There's a narrative there.
Starting point is 00:17:08 At the strip club you clearly work at. There's a narrative there. Virtues and gemstones equal stripper, period, or car brands, car brands. Oh, I love Toyota Toyota Volvo. She's my favorite. Well, how about a week or two? Yeah, man. How about a week or two?
Starting point is 00:17:38 Well, Clemson eyes week so far has actually been pretty similar because we've been hanging out. Watch Black Panther, but we're going to leave that till the end because you also watch Black Panther. Let's see. What else do we do? I took Clemson around, did the underground city, did the tourist thing. Yeah, I was witty fun.
Starting point is 00:17:55 Played a bunch of Diablo 3 with him and Paige last night, which was actually a ton of fun. Diablo 3. Because we're like, we wanted to see that one coming. Because we're like, we want to stream something and I wanted to be co-op and we have three people and it's got to be on the couch. It's like, that's actually really it. And I mean co-op, I don't mean like versus like, you know, we play a million fucking fighting games like Gang Beasts and the Stardust, what's it called, Stardust Vanguard?
Starting point is 00:18:20 Yeah, Stardust Vanguard, yeah. But like, and it's like Diablo, oh man, that game is super fun on the console still. It was really, really fun. The stream was super good. But better than that is something that Clems recommended to Paige and I last night. Oh, yes. And I will let him take it away from here. Sure.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Now I've got to make sure I don't mess up the name this time because last night I was messing it up completely. It's Dark Place. Dark Place. It is a British comedy show that is absolutely amazing. It's like a parody of those old 80s kind of hospital shows. But it's also kind of like. Like Guiding Light?
Starting point is 00:19:03 Sure, sure. Okay. It's also kind of like, it takes the make out of like Stephen King and stuff. You know, he's like a made to TV horror things, which are like, I guess like the it movie, the original one. The original it movie. Stuff like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Okay. It's that and it is, it's really, really on point because they make it look intentionally low budget and they have the actors and the comedians act like they're being bad. So they're doing this thing where they're speaking completely monotone, doing this, doing this, doing this. And then they like for half a second, they look to the camera and it hard cuts to them with the board again. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:38 So it's that kind of thing, yeah. And the entire show is filled, it's like amazing British comedians in it, has I think no fielding. I have been told about this before. It's really. It's got some guys from the IT crowd. It's got some guys from the peep show. It's got the guy who speaks like this.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Okay. No, it's definitely, it's lighting up some memories. So he missed out. He forgot to mention the, like it is a riff on Stephen King. But it is a Lovecraftian hospital. Yeah. Okay. Like, but I mean, dark play, yes, dark play sounds like stupidest manner, and like in
Starting point is 00:20:14 addition to its inherent ridiculousness, like I can't, you got to sell it more the bits about the production. Yeah. It is the best shitty production I've ever seen. So I've seen some, I watched Eric Andre's show for fuck's sake. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:31 And then there's, there is a scene in the first episode where it just cuts and I'm like, this dialogue sounds weird. And then like after 10 seconds of a fucking zoom in shot, you're like, is he doing fucking ADR on his, on his zoom in and he's, he's doing it. So it's just like a millisecond off slightly when he's speaking like this, you can kind of see it. Yeah. Fucking bad.
Starting point is 00:20:58 When is it actually from like the 2000s you said, right? I'm going to assume it's either like 90s or 2000s, kind of like in the middle. Because the guys that are the guys that I recognize, they, they look the same age as they do now. Maybe a little younger. And like Noel Fielding and Julie and Barrett from the Mighty Boosh, they look fairly similar ages in that show. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:21 And like, that's this amazing bit in the first episode where this guy comes in, he's been hospitalized and essentially he, he just explodes in the room in the most amazing. It's really gory. Okay. Super gory. And then you can clearly see his head is just sticking out of the ground, but they've covered it with like awful blood effects and you can kind of see his head is like, and it's so like, please kill me.
Starting point is 00:21:43 It really hurts. It's super bad, but it's really, really good. It's absolutely fucking fantastic. I recommend to anybody to check out Dark Plays. And because it's one of your English programs, it's like, what, eight episodes? It's like, so it's long. Yeah. And then he's never continued.
Starting point is 00:22:01 That bugs me, man. As soon as I like, like, like something popped up with like some, some, someone, something's dark place. Like, like, Goff, Goff, Meringue. That and that made it go like, yes, someone has absolutely told me about this before. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:14 I think you would like it. I think it is even more up Matt's alley, like the tone specifically of like terrible Goofball, Lovecraft shit. Like it's, it's fucking amazing. Is it on Netflix? I want to say it is. Okay. I'm going to think so.
Starting point is 00:22:32 But it might be on English and Netflix. Yeah. That's the thing. Well, we found the, we found the first whole episode on YouTube. Yeah, it is on YouTube. Okay. It's, I think, I think it's that old that YouTubers don't care. Don't give a shit.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Yeah. So yeah, the episodes range from the first episode where the guy explodes and opens a portal to hell. There's an episode of everybody gets reverted to cavemen. And it's, and it's, it's just great. And there's another episode. There's a giant tentacle monster who impregnates men. Nice.
Starting point is 00:22:57 It's, it's filled with stuff like that. It is really off the car scene where it's just in, there's like the black curtain. Oh yeah. There's shittiest screen, screen conceivable. He's in like, like a tin figure that's like made out of tin. And it's clearly just a steering wheel on a bit of like, bit of plastic. And it's just not a car. I feel, I feel like I must have seen that.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Like there's probably, I feel like there's a famous gift somewhere out there. There are a lot of like reaction images that come from it. So many. You're going to see something from it and go, that's where it's from. Feels, feels like that, that type. Yeah. Absolutely. Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:32 It's super, super good. Okay. Dark place. Um, what else? Uh, nothing fancy. I mean, I played a bunch of monster hunter. I'm sure you played a bunch of monster. I've been playing so much monster.
Starting point is 00:23:44 You've been right in the, the, the near thing. Yeah. That's been kicking my butt. How's that going? Once it could be out. I'm hoping early March. Um, again, the issue with that is obviously since I'm here, I haven't really had much time to finish the script.
Starting point is 00:23:56 So when I get back to England, it's going to be no sleep. It's our fault. Constant writing. Yeah, it's all, I'm gaslighting you. It's all your fault. I'm in that boat too, bro. Yeah. I've been writing something for a while now.
Starting point is 00:24:10 And what is it? It's a thing. You should tell Matt what it is. So he doesn't take it this time. Oh my God. Matt's buying toys, by the way. Anyway, okay. We saw Black Panther.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Okay. Yeah. Okay. You want to, you want to just jump into Black Panther? Do you want to do your week first? I mean, there, there wasn't much because I, I, I, yeah, I haven't touched Monster Hunter because I've been like grinding that Dragon Ball quite shocker, you know, quite fiercely.
Starting point is 00:24:39 There's some news about that shit this week. Yeah, there certainly is. And like, like, like for the first, not for like the, yeah, no, for the first time ever, like, I feel like I'm, I'm doing competitively well. So I need to like stay abreast of like. So the first game that's come out in a while that you touched it and you're like, no, no, no, no, no, I, no, I'm, I'm here.
Starting point is 00:25:04 I can, I'm doing this. I mean, I, I got the head start. I'm doing, I'm doing this. Yes. Um, but also I know that there's going to need to be a slot for Blanka this week. So this week or isn't it? Or isn't it next week?
Starting point is 00:25:17 That's time to stop playing Street Fighter, everybody. I think, I think it is. So, but, um, um, yeah. So that, that, that's what's been going down. Um, and, you know, like whatever, like I said, I'm working. I just, like there was what I would say is like an incredible episode of Black Mirror that I finally got through season four. That's the one where your mom runs on batteries.
Starting point is 00:25:39 That's what she's and. I don't know what's that. That's an old tweet that's just like Black Mirror is written by some drunk Irishman in a room that's just wandering around going, what if your mom ran on batteries? Um, it was, it was, it was a really good episode of this season. So like, I guess, cause I remember Matt said, he's like, it's a heap. Matt was like, it's all right, but it's Black Mirror.
Starting point is 00:26:11 You kind of know what to expect. But there is one with a really strong, um, like, I guess twist, you know? So, uh, but, but like, I'll say more about that. I guess once I'm, once I'm through with season four, um, yeah. Black Panther. I mean, I don't really like, I don't think I need to have a spoiler discussion. No, we, it's easy to talk about. It's, it's very, yeah, there's, uh, because it's a Marvel movie.
Starting point is 00:26:34 So the plot's the same as every other Marvel movie. Well, I mean, whenever superhero say the day, but like, yeah, yeah, yeah. We don't need to like have a spoiler cast necessarily because I feel like there's nothing to really, you know, um, none talked about that. That's going to break. And it might be absolutely not. No.
Starting point is 00:26:49 So, um, yeah, that was a really great movie. That was, I really, really enjoyed it. It was fun. It was very good. And I think the soundtrack was incredible. Yep. And I feel like visual design was astonishing. Art direction was really nice.
Starting point is 00:27:04 It feels like they are, um, like almost like they saw those videos where they're like, no one remembers any Marvel themes or music. From the MCU movies and the other video essay about the color grading and Marvel movies and so talking about this. Yeah. And so, and so you feel, it feels like you're seeing like violent departures from that starting with Guardians of the Galaxy where it's like super neon with a, with a soundtrack, right?
Starting point is 00:27:29 And then you get into Thor Ragnarok, which is again, eighties. I saw that on a jet Kirby shit with a soundtrack. It was great. So like they're, they're basically like Pat, like, you know, taking all that criticism to heart and now again, we see Black Panther with an incredible soundtrack with Kendrick fucking doing, doing dirt. Um, so that was dope. I kept the whole movie.
Starting point is 00:27:49 I kept waiting for lyrics to drop. And yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know what you mean. I know what you mean. But like, you get that awesome like brass kicking in and like anytime you're watching a scene and then like you're into it, but then your head starts bobbing, right? It's like, fuck, they're doing it, man. They're making it work.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Um, so yeah, that was great. The, you know, like the obvious bits and pieces, right? Like, like, I feel like you get to see the, um, the interesting thing about him when he was first introduced as like a character, like they talk about T'Challa, T'Challa, yeah, I feel like they, you know, like took the opportunity to explore the right bits and my concern, I remember like with, with like, how do you, how do you make Wakanda work on film? They figured it out.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Yep, they did it. It was fine. We were hitting the whole time. You know, you can, you, you film like the least expensive thing ever in, in the dirt roads and then you go into just like CG land, but you don't spend too much time in CG land. You can drop down to the streets for a little bit, but then there's a lab, there's a lab lab and then back up to the throne room.
Starting point is 00:28:52 You know, that's how you save. That's how you save money. Speaking of saving money, some of the CG was bad, was bad, just bad. Um, there was a rhinoceros. There was a bit near the end of, I think I turned to Pat and I went, this is reminding me of Lord of the Rings two with the Wargriders. And it's like, that was like 20 years. Rhinoceros.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Yeah, it was, it was glaring and the upper bit I noticed. This is kind of like nitpicks, I guess, but was when the ceremony was going on at everyone's dance and on the mountain. Yeah. I was like, that ain't real. There is the positioning that they got into for sure. It reminded me of like, God, there's a couple of things like that. But one, like my brain goes to that scene in spawn where he goes to hell
Starting point is 00:29:38 and he's talking to Malibu. Yeah, I see. So and they're panning around the giant CG like walls and all the demons are on the walls, you know, it's like one of those things. Oh, it's like PS1. A little bit, a little bit. Oh, I want to get the negatives for me out of the way first. It's like, it has every problem that every Marvel movie has.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Oh, sure. The villain is the same person as the hero. Like they have the same powers. They had they're exactly the same person. But right. The plot is the most see-through shit ever. There are weird face turns for no reason at all at all. That was that's the one disappointing thing about the conclusion.
Starting point is 00:30:21 But unlike every other Marvel movies problem, except for Guardians 2, this is a good villain. Thank you. There we go. There we go. Very good. The villain was with an incredibly solid reason for being a villain. Yeah, I can't even disagree.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Yeah. Nope. So he is a murderer, but he has a purpose. And you're like at some points, you're like, huh, I can be like, yeah, here's the dot and there's the dot and there's the dot and there. Yeah. And I love that you have this whole movie of these noble African royalty folks that have these thick, cool accents and they're talking all fancy and shit.
Starting point is 00:31:00 And well, who's our villain? Our villain is this fucking guy from Oakland. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. And when we were walking out to Clems, I'm like, man, that's so awesome because you have all these superhero shit and all this royalty. And then it's like some asshole stepped off the wire and just he's the villain. And then I took a couple of steps.
Starting point is 00:31:20 I was like, fuck that asshole did step off the wire. That's Wallace and and and then there's the line. Yeah, where like your chest just goes. So the bad guy loses, but he wins with his final line. He wins the day. Yeah, yeah. Oh, gee, that's a that's loud. Sweat and yeah, that's a look around the theater and watch everyone shift
Starting point is 00:31:50 like in their seats and Black Panther kind of looks down. He's like, oh, shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's that's that's there's some shit. I definitely do feels I really do agree with the whole thing, where it's like it's similar to Black Panther. And the thing which got me is that when when he wasn't the Black Panther, his outfit was great.
Starting point is 00:32:15 Yeah, like he had the mask on and everything. And I was like, oh, they're going to they're going to incorporate that into the costume. Now that's the way he put he put on the he put on the other action, the gold one that's shiny. Yeah. But there's some really, yeah, really awesome stuff. Like the the trailer shots, you got to see like some of the color, their usage in in, you know, in in like creative ways, but like seeing
Starting point is 00:32:37 the dream scape, you know, like the purple skies and certain things. And like it was very, very one of the things that when you get to the end of the movie and you're like, we're going to have a big fucking scene and there's going to be a thousand people and half of them are going to fucking wear bright, aqua blue. Yeah. And the other half are going to wear this mauve kind of super dark wine red and you're going to see what's happening. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:02 And it's the most like obvious shit ever. Oh, speaking of the bit which I was like, oh, come on, guys, was was when they go to the yeah, they go down. It's like, we need you to help us. And then they go, no. Yeah. It's I so you've got to. But I say I say it for me. It's like, OK, so shout outs to Okoye for making the movie for me.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Yeah, that's that's the sister. No, no, Okoye is the the guard, the bodyguard ball balls. I forget every character. OK, the the the ball chick with the spear. That's a bad ass. Yes. Is incredible. And then I didn't care for the love interest. Sure. Honestly. Yeah, she's kind of bad.
Starting point is 00:33:45 That's that's fine. And, of course, the and then, oh, my God, the way that they're because here's the thing, right? Black Panther villains, not super great. He's got one of those problems. Kind of not great. What are some Black Panther villains? I'm going to assume Killmongers one.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Well, let's killmongers one. And guess what? Not that great. Kind of lame. Oh, right. Origins that are pretty bad, right? But then we fix them with real shit. The story, right? And then similarly, you have other other Black Panther villains like Baku, a.k.a.
Starting point is 00:34:25 the original character from the comics, Man Ape. Oh, that explains that. Yes, but he's not Man Ape now. Oh, he's just an ape themed bad ass. Yeah, hang it out. But originally that was man. I could see that character's inclusion being kind of weird in a movie
Starting point is 00:34:48 that wasn't made like this one was. So here. So that's that's the character's name. And that was what he came from. And it was like, oh, God, please don't. And then they're like Mbaku's in the movie and you're like, wow. Wow, I think, right? Like, what do we what?
Starting point is 00:35:05 How are we going to? And then it's more than fine. It's actually really cool. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, shout outs to Black Vikings. Yeah, without being ridiculous about it, because that's a concept that makes no sense. But you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:35:19 A lot of the people around Black Panther have these wild art styles that are way more interesting than Black Panther's suit. All right. Black Panther's suit has clearly been designed to not look like the most wild fucking thing next to everybody else in the MCU. So his suits go like a normal superhero suit,
Starting point is 00:35:39 but everyone around him is just fucking cooler. Like the paint and the it's because you, you know, we've seen like the whole fusion and fusion of Old World New World stuff. We've seen different versions of it. We've seen fusion of Old World, like Japanese and Asian, like things with futuristic stuff. And we've seen it with, you know, like like British,
Starting point is 00:35:59 like, you know, and European world and things like that. You haven't really seen like Neo Future Tech Africa. That's right. Combined with old things. So like, yeah, the fact that they get to explore this entire, like, I'm not going to say untouched, but like relatively unexplored, you know, world of like bringing, yeah, bringing out different tribes and different African looks
Starting point is 00:36:20 and combining it with like tech and CG, you know, and some, sometimes again, you're way CG'd up and it's like, oh, that's a little too shiny, you know. You did a little too much. Little too, yeah. But other times it's like, that's a really cool version of that. We're going to have a big rhino scene. It's going to be really dramatic.
Starting point is 00:36:36 Also fun is looking at the people walking around in the background of, you know, cyber Africa. Yeah, like, like just literally like the average Wakandan. And there's like a mixture of fashions and crazy things. Yeah, all kinds of weird stuff. And you're like, oh, the background people are interesting. That's that's, you know, very vibrant movie. You don't want to take your eyes off.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Blue Afro. When I was like, yeah, that's my speed. Yeah, why not? We got Future Dyes. Yeah. Well, we got we got magic. Yeah. It's magic. It's it's so. So, yeah, man, you know, that thing is crushing it. And it's it's it's fifth grader, like largest opening. Wow, really? Like, yeah, it's pretty much behind Star Wars,
Starting point is 00:37:17 Star Wars, Avengers and Jurassic World. Like, like it's like it's a really I think it's a pretty good movie. I don't think it's the best. But like, even if it's one of those things, it's like, let's say it's an eight, right? Yeah. Or seven and a half, even. But I'd say it's an eight. But you get the ghost push. But not even that.
Starting point is 00:37:35 I'd be like, but it's worth seeing just because the art is new. Yeah, it doesn't look like every other movie. I put and I put Blade Runner in the same category, right? Like the new like the new Blade Runner is like is absolutely needs to be seen for the art on its own. It's worth seeing just for that. But the rest of it is actually fine, too, you know? But in Black Panther's case, of course,
Starting point is 00:38:00 there is the actual like outside of all that, the rarity of the moment, you know, which pushes it beyond where like people are like, oh, shit, this is a movie that is, you know, entirely black made and entirely black director and soundtrack in the like top to bottom. So it's the rarity of the moment pushes it a little bit further than it would have been otherwise. So I was there was part of me that it's like, OK, this is being pushed.
Starting point is 00:38:25 This isn't just a movie about a black guy. This is a fucking black movie, right? And it's called Black Panther. I'm like, I'm going to theater. It's like, I think the thing that probably disappoint me the most is if we get in there and it's like, it's a black movie, but an executive guy was like, maybe tone down the fucking. There's that.
Starting point is 00:38:46 There is no fear of that. Yeah, there's that. There's the what if we turn it down thing. But more than that, I could like, like, like, especially since like MCU has been on its, it has its its stride and it knows exactly what it's doing. I definitely felt that they looked at it and went, like, no, we're not pulling any punches, right?
Starting point is 00:39:05 Why would you like for a movie like that? It makes no sense to there's some topics in this in this film that go wild in a way that I did not anticipate and was very happy to see. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But what I was what I was like, like actually thinking about like way back was like there's a lot of like pressure and build up. And the whole thing is like, again, it's being pushed as this major like, you know, black production.
Starting point is 00:39:31 There's like, there's political things happening behind this movie in a way. Black director. You got Angela Bassett. You got a whole not Lawrence fish for it. It's the guy with the eye, Whitaker. For us, when I got all that going on, people. Exactly. So there's a whole there's a whole big thing and everyone's pretty much like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:39:48 Like someone made a bad review and everyone was like, kill him. Everyone's on him. Yeah, exactly. You know, so there's also like, there's like hopes and expectations and there's ridiculous tweets, like crazy ass fucking people going, hey, white folks, get your asses out of the theaters. Don't be around. Yeah, let people have their let black people have their moment.
Starting point is 00:40:04 And it's like, you are a crazy person. You are a crazy person. Shut up. Nobody wants to hear what you have to say. But what about the DC fans? Holy fuck, you crazy. And then there's those crazy people, too. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:16 We got to bomb it just to make DC better. So all that's happening and all this is doing. And then in my head, a little quiet whisper as loud as and as thunderous as possible goes, what if it sucks and you go, oh, no. So I had that feeling coming in. And like before I went to see, it's like, what if I'm the only person that hates this movie? I was exactly the same.
Starting point is 00:40:41 Yeah. What? I was the same. Are you allowed? Right. What do you mean? You ain't got a better. What if I come into the podcast and it's universally.
Starting point is 00:40:52 Oh, dude. I'm the only person that hates it. And that kind of sucks. I left it going. Thank God I loved it. Yeah. I should say thank God I like. What if that is that is some funny shit.
Starting point is 00:41:06 I was thinking, like, what if I went on the podcast and I say, like, I just didn't like it just good, goodbye, Clem. It's like they held the movie up. It's like a pedestal of black movie making. And so it's like, it's this fucking thing. It's like, my God. It's like, no, it's pretty good. The villain is the best part of the whole movie.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Totally. And I wish he was in it more. That's probably the biggest flaw of the whole flick is that. I think he got his due. But but ultimately 30 minute span where he just doesn't appear at all. But there's a very good middle that I'll say that, like, when he's like ascending, if you know, when he's when he's on screen every when he's going, he's when he's doing it, ripping a tear through everything.
Starting point is 00:41:50 They do a really good job, like, you know, breaking it, breaking the character down for you. So shout outs to Michael B Jordan for that, like finally landing on the right side of Marvel. That's correct. Where was he at before? Human torch. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:42:05 Everyone forgets. Michael B Jordan was the human torch. He was already a Marvel character. He was in that for Fantastic Four. But yeah, who owns that now? That that was that was the Fox thing. Interesting. So, yeah, yeah, we got to just do that over.
Starting point is 00:42:26 The Fantastic Four record continues with human torch and human torch. Yeah. Becoming better Marvel characters. Oh, fanful stick. Yeah. So yeah, man, good stuff. Absolutely. And I I guess the the I was I was I was wondering like, you know, I'm like, OK,
Starting point is 00:42:49 and and what are your your your Marvel tie-ins going to be in terms of like, you know, like to the rest of the thing. Oh, it was it was super minimal. It was we super minimal. Like, so how do I put this before me and Clamps went to the movie? I was telling Clamps, oh, don't forget that thing happened. That's going to be in the movie for a second. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:09 And then that that was the fucking end of the movie. And like, oh, yeah, so I guess. Good job, Black Panther. Three. Good job. Truly to answer Peel's tweet about like he's like he's like, hey, for those of us who have seen Get Out, what is the opposite of the sunken place? And the top rated network for response was Wakanda.
Starting point is 00:43:35 Yeah. OK. All right. I still got to fucking see Get Out. I do, too. Oh, well, that landed on deaf ears. OK. Well, people in the audience probably care. OK. Well, Get Out is about the opposite of Wakanda. I don't like that. Yeah. How about that?
Starting point is 00:43:52 That sounds sad. Oh, we got some stories, man. Yeah, we do. OK. You know what that means. Oh, wait. Can I talk about my fucking horrible fire alarm? Shit. Oh, my God. Holy fuck. God blighted Pat back this week.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Some motherfucker in the building connected to mine has been flipping the fucking fire alarm for funsies. And I have a fire alarm that blows out the fucking world with its noise. It was it was pretty five times in four days at various times a day. Poor Elmo is scared to death. And then once we finally the association that runs my building threatened to cut their power off.
Starting point is 00:44:32 So that's stop. The fucking fire alarm went off at 9 a.m. And it's the beeping. It's the you need to change me. Shit beeping. And it's like, OK, well, here's some problems. Me and Paige are not tall enough, even on the chairs in the house. Luckily, Clemse is staying at our house. Bumps get up there and flip the battery lid.
Starting point is 00:44:52 There's no fucking battery. There was no battery lid. So call the building guy. We'll get a guy out there in three days. Three days. OK, disconnect it. I'm like, this thing feels like it's been fucking super glued in place. This has never been disconnected ever.
Starting point is 00:45:09 That's why we were late today, the podcast, because it's the fucking guy can only works till five. I'm going to cover the podcast. There's no fucking way I'm going to be able to get a fucking battery. So me and Clemse are switching, standing on a fucking chair, trying to pull a fire alarm out of the ceiling at noon. And poor Elmo is hiding underneath the sofa. Just terrified.
Starting point is 00:45:29 So in conclusion, everywhere you've ever lived, if there was an actual fire, I would rather die. You'd then hear the alarm done. All right. I'll accept it. Got it. Speaking of Elmo. I'm so happy I got to see Elmo. He's the sweetest boy. I love him.
Starting point is 00:45:44 The first night Clemse was there, he came out of our bed and fucking went and slept on Clemse's head. Yeah, he snuggled into my arm and put his head like near my elbow. It was a good night. It was really, really sweet. That was the toxoplasmosis kicking in. Well, he's got a cat at home. I do. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:01 He's already got it. Shout outs to Jess, the cat. No, you're listening. All the cat school. I call it a moogle. Is that the cat's name? No, it's a nickname like Pepe. Yeah, like Mr. Pepe. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:46:16 Oh, you know that Willie? We call him a Mr. Pepe. Does he pee pee everywhere? Nope. It's just no page page was wasted once, like eight years ago. I went, yeah, Mr. Pepe. And that's it. That's the whole story.
Starting point is 00:46:29 It's stuck eight years ago. Yeah, he's 10, man. OK, he doesn't look at he's good for his age. He's an old busted cat. Very sweet and fluffy and nice. OK, all right, back to news. Yeah, I guess we can we can take it over to the new announcement that just came in just now, just just now, hot off the presses.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Our system works and Swarie announced the missing. What the fuck is this? Yeah, this is just announced. Holy shit, dude. They're apparently working together with White Owls and this year we're going to be getting a game here. What? So it seems like the whole the good life thing is not the only thing
Starting point is 00:47:16 he's banking on because he's got proper games in the works. So the missing is a title with many meanings, a missing person. Someone who's lost even something lost. Maybe it's your loved one, a place you belong. Do you feel lost in your everyday life? The missing is for someone like you. And it doesn't really explain what it is or what it's going to be. There's a story talking about how nice our system works exactly.
Starting point is 00:47:37 And he does his video, but there's a nice, you know, but it's like basically like just a live action footage. It's like a deadly permission shit for real, but it doesn't actually tell you what it is. It's just a thing called the missing. But yeah, our system works. And in particular, I think our system works. His new Western branch is what you get the feeling that
Starting point is 00:47:59 ArcSys is fucking going hard lately. Well, they're they're trying new shit. They're clearly trying new shit because, you know, they figured out that we have money and they're good at it. We can do this. Oh, man. Interesting. Yeah. There's not much news on that other than its existence. Yeah. But like I said, they just like just this morning.
Starting point is 00:48:21 Sweet. Honest at like two hours ago, maybe. And let me ask you, Clems, do you think that Swary has the potential to be another tarot? Everyone has the potential to be another tarot. But do you think there's any likelihood? Because like the deadly premonition reminds me of like Drake and Guard in that it's like, this is the most fascinating, crazy, weird ass shit ever.
Starting point is 00:48:44 But this game sucks. I think he'd become another tarot if he if he thrust himself into the spotlight with a weird gimmick. OK, tarot has his mask. He also did that amazing shit Square Enix advert. Yeah, there's that. He did all of that. Swary needs to hop on the the free spirit train.
Starting point is 00:49:03 He'd be like, I don't have any energy. I need this doughnut because it was high. I mean, I see me or whatever. Well, you know, like, like, or you could just start just blocking people violently. Yeah, right. That might work, too. But I mean, the whole monk thing was like taking off for a little bit. Right. Tarot does look a lot like a man.
Starting point is 00:49:21 Well, that's time he took off his his his mask. It looks just like a man. It is really strange, like, when you actually see tarot without his mask and he's he's just a dude. Oh, yeah. What do you expect? He's just a regular. And it's like, oh, man, I got whenever I think of Yoko Taro, I think of a meal. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:41 So it's so strange to see the man behind the mask. It's like that. Say you saw like I've seen what Daft Punk look like before they were Daft Punk. Sure, sure. Fucking regular ass looking French guys. Like, but does that stay in my mind when I think of Daft Punk? Of course not. Deadmau5, everyone knows Deadmau5's face at this point, but he still rocks the helmet and look because that's what you do.
Starting point is 00:50:01 I'm I'm I'm like wondering if Tarot is going to go for a new gimmick with his new game, because in Dragon Guard 3, he was a thinker puppet. He did this over the table when he spoke like that with a little camera speaking in and then when when it came out, he just never really appeared on camera ever. And in near automata, he decided to don the meal. And then he went loud in. I I feel like because that's what he's known for now, he might stick with the mask. Sure, it was really effective.
Starting point is 00:50:29 Yeah, it was updated masks, though, like the crack and the you know, the crack is real. I know, but I mean, like that type of thing, I feel like like that story might just continue in the Dragon near community. When that crack happened on the mask, there was like conspiracies on forums going like it has something to do with near automata. The crackers and people were like analyzing the crack in his helmet and like something's going to happen and nothing he just tripped over because he can't see shit. You can't.
Starting point is 00:50:57 Honestly, it's like that's almost like that's your fault when you when you create a world of fans that are like that analytical because they need to be. You have to do this. It's like the souls and Kojima fan and Kojima fan base, right? Getting there. It's like Kojima picked it, tweets out a picture of his glasses and a cup of coffee and everyone's like, I followed his I followed his blog for like a year and a half,
Starting point is 00:51:22 thinking I was going to get some insight to name. I remember it was pictures of his fucking jacket and his coffee. Yep. Yep. So no, that that is totally like that's par for the course when you create games that require that level of fucking ARGing it. You know, yeah, totally. But yeah, so there's the missing that got announced. And then, of course, also related to
Starting point is 00:51:45 Arcsis is the first character reveals for DBFZ. Right. So data mines were super real and correct. And it is Broly, the legendary Super Saiyan and Bardock, Goku's dad. Yep. So a shout out to the should I dunk them chart? Man, I was looking at that right before you came in. So it's in our Android 16 going, Goku needs to be dunked, right? And like it breaks down the rest of the cast going, well,
Starting point is 00:52:18 Goku black is still a Goku. So that's very, very, very dunkable. And Goku's kids are 50 are 50 percent Goku. You know, so that's good enough to do that's good enough to dunk. Cells 10 percent Goku. I dunked that, right? So Goku's kids are 50 percent Goku. That means Bardock is 200 percent Goku. Double. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:40 Anyway, so, yeah, they have a little look at Broly. There's a there's a magazine scan that was translated by Shonen games. And yeah, you can pretty much look at this. And then you can go back and look at the Super Butte and move list and expect some heavy overlap here. So that was Arcsis Dragon Ball game before this, where they referenced panel for panel and movie shot for movie shot. What what throw what grab, you know, what what normals
Starting point is 00:53:07 Broly will be clearly fulfilling the giant body hyper armor archetype that is sorely missing. I expect it. I expect that's what everyone expected. Armored normals, baby. Our armored like he's like in the screenshots. He's so huge. He's like Abigail huge and then there's the rest of the cast. Then there's a Super Saiyan Bardock, which is a Goku still don't understand the other Goku.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Yeah, did. So he is not Super Saiyan in any way other than his super. OK, but but OK, did anyone who saw that movie like I saw that movie. OK, does his tail get ripped off? No, I don't know. How does he go Super Saiyan with a tail? Fuck it. It's wrapped around his waist. Shut the fuck up.
Starting point is 00:53:51 The whole thing was you need to lose your tail. The planet has no moon. OK, fuck it. I've only recently been back into Dragon Ball. So I'm hearing all these things and I'm trying to connect the dots, but it's it's Jiren is so strong. He's the strongest. He's the strongest.
Starting point is 00:54:09 Jiren Uchiha, what a sad, what a sad, strong. I read that on Twitter. Strong side. I couldn't believe it. It was bad. Hey, you know who else is strong? Broly Broly is. So, oh, man, I recently watched Super Eye Patch's Wolf about fucking DBZ and in it, he describes that I think it's the
Starting point is 00:54:30 director of the Broly movie and a guy who worked a lot on DBZ is out on fucking Twitter almost every day going, yeah, Broly could beat everybody in Super. Yeah, no, Broly's a shit. No one could ever touch him like he's he's way in there. Right, right, right. So there's that. We might even we might even come across one of those one of those DLC leaks or whatever as like there's like a regular
Starting point is 00:54:59 like Goku model, the game or whatever, but it'd be interesting or not surprising, I guess, to see the new form that everyone's going on about. Oh, you mean Goku Blanco? Yeah, which is like way to turn a Gohan meme into real life at this point. So there's that we'll see where that goes. But either way, cool. I love anime. Super dope.
Starting point is 00:55:19 So coming up next will be a fucking base Vegeta and base Goku or Cooler and Android 17 from the turn of the power. But apparently I was reading up on this. There is data mining. There are slots for characters up to like 40 right now. Yeah, but so the X cura leaks were like a giant, giant list of like an extensive list of characters. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:45 And I look at that and I go there. Those are lavatars, lavatars, lobby avatars. Yeah, you know, like there's like poor in there. And it's like, that's a lobby lobby avatar thing, like for sure. Because they already have like a ridiculous amount of lobby avatars as is, you know, like that I can't remember. But I think they might have used the term season in terms of this batch of DLC characters, which means this will probably get up to Marvel kind of.
Starting point is 00:56:12 Especially considering how how few moves the characters have. Like I can see this getting up to 40, 50 characters. Geez, DBZ has plenty of fucking characters to go. It does. Also, there's a billion. Yeah, if it if it continues to be like the like ridiculous popular smash hit that it is as like one of the biggest and fastest selling Dragon Ball games ever, then like, why wouldn't they get that support?
Starting point is 00:56:31 I was surprised that it got as huge as it has now. Do it as Dragon Ball. Well, that's the thing. Like I again, I've never been a huge Dragon Ball fan. So I was like, oh, it's a Dragon Ball Z game. Like cool, I mean, like, but I'll go on. Well, it's interesting actually, because like thinking about this based on our previous conversation.
Starting point is 00:56:51 Yeah, what you're looking at is the same formula as near automata. You're looking at a thing that people cared about that was that existed. But then the developer comes in and brings a pedigree with them. And the combination of the two create the perfect storm. Sure, sure. Awesome gameplay. But also like. Dragon Ball is the most popular shit other than Smash Bros.
Starting point is 00:57:15 Yes, like it's the most. But the games are always terrible. That's what I was thinking. Yeah, because like all the other Dragon Ball fighters, they've been like fine. But they've never like gone up to kind of because they're not really fighting games. They're usually just like, you know what I mean? Like you dash around, hold the charge button, mash buttons, whatever. Yeah, it's always some garbage, right?
Starting point is 00:57:32 And Xenoverse being like they're very popular recent like a version of that shows you because it's like it has infinite characters in it. It's like a giant roster, but the gameplay is terrible. But people don't care because they're like, but whatever it I'm looking at my Dragon Balls. Yeah. I'm looking at my steam forums. You're like, I this game is so bad.
Starting point is 00:57:50 It doesn't even have a hundred characters. And I like what the fuck. Exactly. Yeah, I like I can't even fly. Boo, right? Can't even just fly on purpose. But but but Arx is coming in on gameplay wise is the same as platinum coming in to near that makes a lot more sense, right?
Starting point is 00:58:04 And that's why it's so explosive is because the people that we're looking for really good gameplay are showing up because it's here now. Yeah, also. And I genuinely mean this because the clumps don't play no fighting games. Good. Yeah, I like Soul Calibur and Tekken. I play that's a good one, too. Europeans very, very casually.
Starting point is 00:58:24 Yeah, but but DBZ is like astonishingly open to new players. Like it's one of the ones that I would say you can start here because you hit the button. Honestly, nowadays, there's very few places you can't start. Yeah, it's you know, we've come a long way. A lot of new games out there. If it's something peaks your interest, you can pick it up and it'll probably hold your hand.
Starting point is 00:58:44 There's something in there for you. I'd say so. I really tried with Street Fighter 5. I really tried. That is one of the ones that is ironically more difficult to get into. Oh, but it's hyper, hyper popular. So OK. But it's also the thing about it's not that like a Street Fighter 5
Starting point is 00:59:00 does a good bit to like introduce concepts to you and stuff. And it has a decent tutorial and demonstrations. But it's just the fact that it's Street Fighter and everybody plays it and knows it to this degree that you're going to be like, you know, if you've never done it before and you're jumping online, like I couldn't. It's it's a rough ride. It's it is a rough ride, for sure. Even the people that like don't know at all what they're doing
Starting point is 00:59:25 still have probably played Street Fighter 2 and just having that. There are there are killers on there are thousands and thousands of killers that have been killers since 91. I was decimated, right? Yeah. Wait, you're 25, right? Soon. Yes. What what year were you born?
Starting point is 00:59:47 1993. OK. So there are people who were killers in Street Fighter before you were born. Before your conception. Oh, no. You were conceived in a world where someone was better at Street Fighter than you. In my laval form, someone was getting stronger. Your chances never existed and never will. Oh, man. Welcome to the FGC.
Starting point is 01:00:08 Advocate of a hyperbolic time jaber. They just released a new trailer for Biomutant. Oh, shit. So this on Twitter and biomutant. Yeah, it you know, it's doing its thing. It appears to be, you know, showing off a lot of different forms you're going to be taking on and stuff like that. So, you know, I want this game to be good because it's so weird.
Starting point is 01:00:31 It is very weird. And I and I and I like the the the different forms and things you're taking on. Like I want to see more in terms of the evolution chain, because I think that's the single most interesting thing about the premise about being a biomutant. Yeah, it's like evolving all these weird parts and shapes and things. So like I want to see that sort of explained a little bit more in depth. But right now, this is just a yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:55 But this is just a general gameplay trailer. Is this for I love school. Yeah, the the the world itself looks like kind of last gen. Yeah. You know, like visually, it's a little bit like dated. And I guess it's because it's been worked on for that long. I don't know. That's cool.
Starting point is 01:01:17 I don't want this game to suck, but I'm very worried that it's going to. It might, but it might be OK, too. And I think it's going to come down to like, you know, the the events, the writing somewhat and the combat seems like it's OK. The writing of biomutant. Yeah. Oh, the name just cracks me up every time. Combat combat does seem, you know, like it's got a couple of things going on.
Starting point is 01:01:39 It doesn't look like it's super deep, but it looks like a little boy. Can't you guys just can't everyone just make a good game every time? And we don't worry. Got to be nice. Well, I'd like only good games, only good games or bad games that are so bad. They're good games like deadly premonition. How do you how do you how do you like Matt and I will judge? OK, every single one.
Starting point is 01:02:01 Yeah. OK. So you only make a couple of your OK. So if you want to make video games, you have to be on this list of what? Cool people, a hundred. Yeah, cool. Hundred games a year. Yeah. All consoles. Yeah, all of it. OK. Yeah. And what about mobile games? What about them?
Starting point is 01:02:19 Do they do they count? No. OK. So and and if you're like, oh, I want to make a game, but the slots are awful. Just go work with a different team and make a bigger game. OK. Yeah. Cool. What about like, like MMOs, how would you how would you how would you test it if it's just two people on a server to know that it's a good?
Starting point is 01:02:47 Oh, I know. Yeah, I know right away. You could play an MMO solo and know if it's good. Yeah. You know what? I actually heard some news on Twitter today that I think like they're trying to pass a law in America. So a law law law. So the dead MMOs can be pirated without punishment. Yeah, it's it's a DMCA exception for abandoned games.
Starting point is 01:03:11 So Square Enix and is the one is the name I remember Square Enix and Fox. All these people are fighting for the against the DMCA exception, which is like you are literally just fighting to kill these old games. Yeah, seriously, you don't support them. You won't run the servers. You are just wanting them to die. Is is it is it a law to allow people to run their own servers or allow to allow people to hire it to get it is basically a DMCA exception
Starting point is 01:03:39 to copyright law that says if a game is abandoned, which means that it has no it has no support. You cannot be bought and the server infrastructure for it is dead and not going to come back that you will not be liable to DMCA copyright shenanigans from the law enforcement. OK, as a result. So this is primarily Ashron's call is fucking dead. Yeah, I would like to play Ashron's call and run my own private server.
Starting point is 01:04:09 I can do that without being fucked up. So is and I guess like that automatically then goes into piracy territory because you can't really avoid the two unless you like grow like here's a patch you can download to install on your existing copy. And it's basically it's basically an idea is like saying this that looks at our server doesn't exist. Yeah. And it can't you can't even buy it. A bad. So yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:33 So and a bunch of shit ton of companies are fighting it going. No, we might you. And it's literally it's like we don't want like I'm going to use Ashron's call. I don't even know who makes Ashron's call. But I know it's a dead fucking MMO. And it's like we don't want the Ashron's call private server to exist because maybe we'll reboot it in 35 years. And then that'll hurt our it's fucking short-sighted business shit.
Starting point is 01:04:57 It's it's awful. I've seen a bunch of people who really like Star Wars legends like that really old Star Wars MMO game who were like, oh, finally, because it's been it's been dead about galaxies man. I might be talking about talking about I'm a fool. Yes, that's the one I'm talking about. I got totally mixed up. But yeah, like I said, a ton of people who are really excited
Starting point is 01:05:17 for the idea of just like going back into it and everything. It's like, you know what? I'll be honest, if RuneScape ever died, I'd like to jump back in. So like there's also something to be said, though, for the company that is looking at it going like, where's my skim off the top of, you know, these people playing my game? It's all a fucking game, man. Right. Right. Or keep the servers up.
Starting point is 01:05:39 But but I think like it's because like I definitely can see how like it is. To me, it seems very obviously the right thing to do would be to allow people to put their own servers up when a game is dead. Yeah. But I can also see how a company would be like, I don't want you to be able to just take my game that I made, even if it is dead, because that's still like, you know, I guess a game that I made. So I feel like there's a separation there where like one of those things is more valid than the other.
Starting point is 01:06:08 And if you can somehow distinguish between the two, that'd be nice. Now, this would not apply to stuff like EverQuest, which still exists. Oh, EverQuest. EverQuest is still ongoing. EverQuest one still got their servers up. Sure. Right. But like think about because there is a term called abandonware, which is you go to the abandonware website. It's do you find those demo discs to come with PC magazine? Those games are fucking the companies that made those no longer exist.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. There's no one to get you for them. Like, OK, like fine, fuck it. But these are companies that still exist and they're for IPs that still exist. And they're, you know, and it's like it is a little more complicated. It's like, I don't know, man, I'm Canadian. If I don't have access to something that I would have paid for because somebody just doesn't want to give it to me.
Starting point is 01:06:58 I'm just going to go and get it. Like that, that's that's how. And yeah, I guess it's more like the long lines of like, is we're in a new world of games with lifespans, right? Which is sad. Intended lifespans, in a way. Yeah. And I'm not used to thinking about like, OK, so when a game dies, does it lose all of its rights to its money and to, you know, like, what do you?
Starting point is 01:07:24 I don't know. I don't know. It's an interesting one. It's an interesting premise. The idea of people putting games back online through their own servers is to me. Again, like I said, that's a cut and dry. Absolutely. Why not? Well, here's the thing. I want to I want to keep this going and people should be able to play it. As you look at a lot of games that have the lifespan, right? And the reason why they have the lifespan
Starting point is 01:07:43 is because it is a loophole to get around laws around planned obsolescence. If you add a car that automatically failed in five years, that shit, you'd be find out the crazy ass. But if you make a loot shooter like Destiny that is built to last five years and then you just make a new Destiny explicitly to replace the old one, and then your servers go off, then the servers for the old one go off line. That's that's fine. And like destiny would like destiny is online only.
Starting point is 01:08:11 Destiny one is going to die at some point and you're going to have to upgrade to the new destiny. Now, MMOs are the most obvious pick on that. But I feel like they actually get a freer pass because it makes a lot more sense that servers cost a lot for MMOs. That's a significant expenditure. Yeah. But not for fucking Madden.
Starting point is 01:08:29 You know, not for fucking Assassin's Creed two on PC. I feel like that. Yeah, I feel like you can avoid legislation here if companies had a sort of best practice of putting out a community patch at the end of the life of a game, right? But then how are you going to resell it in the new bundle? Well, it would have to be. If anything, maybe not at the end of the life of the game,
Starting point is 01:08:54 but like a good time later, maybe. So that's a good practice. But the problem with that is that anything other than a megacorp often no longer exists at that point, right? Slash cares about that. I think about LucasArts, like there's a bunch of games that that would have applied to, but then LucasArts doesn't fucking exist anymore.
Starting point is 01:09:12 Yeah, yeah. And you wouldn't really get that type of behavior from a team that wasn't like a small devs that like cared, you know? So, yeah, interesting. I'm curious to see how this plays out because there's sides. I like I said, I can understand the like I'm very strong, my opinion on this one, but I get it. I get it. I get it. Totally.
Starting point is 01:09:31 I just I don't care about that point of view. Yeah, I think it's what Blizzard did with, I mean, God is working out well from with the classic World of Warcraft servers. Well, have they got out? They're coming out 100 percent. Obviously, there was a whole not Nostalius, Nostalius, something like that. Something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Obviously, they were being like hunted by Blizzard to take down the servers
Starting point is 01:09:55 because the again, with MMOs, it's like, OK, so when a new expansion comes out, what about the older expansions? They're just they're essentially dead, no longer being played all that, you know, a completely different thing. So then it really goes on to write, OK, so is opening up a fan server for like specific expansions. Would that be OK? And so what Blizzard is really doing with the vanilla classic is, you know,
Starting point is 01:10:17 to say they're going to get a lot of lot of cash. Honestly, there's a part of me that feels drawn to going back to vanilla classic for a month. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it to stream specifically because I have memories of vanilla. Well, it was it was cute. And I remember being a little kid and not understanding a single damn thing
Starting point is 01:10:40 because MMOs are just like go right over my head. So it might be interesting to dive back in like of RuneScape 07. That thing is still around. The World of Warcraft situation is a little different because like the Nostralius situation was they kept saying, you don't actually want classic servers, classic servers aren't worth it. That was that was right. And then it's like, oh, half a fucking million people
Starting point is 01:10:59 are playing these fucking pirate classic servers. And once they realized there was money to be made, they shut it down. There's a there's a spectrum of on one end. You have the people that are like like dead game, dead community being held alive by like people like people that hacked their own like builds that have, you know, self-supported servers. You mean like the psychos who got Time Splitters 2 working online multiplayer? Like the psychos who got Metal Gear Online, the original MGS3 version back online.
Starting point is 01:11:31 Well, the reason why Time Splitters is the one I use is because Time Splitters doesn't have online play at all. OK, fine. Fair enough. They hacked a bullshit in with controller shenanigans and local multiplayer. Yeah. Oh, my God. Right. So on one end of the spectrum, you have that, which is just like love and support to the maximum. And then you have the other end of the spectrum, which is
Starting point is 01:11:49 fuck you company that made this game. This is my now the end. Yeah. Right. And the truth needs to be somewhere in between those two without straying too far to that. Here's here. Fuck you. So I'm highly pro consumer all the time because I don't work in a big company, whatever. Fuck them. But I'm of the opinion.
Starting point is 01:12:07 Hey, I bought this game. Fuck you. I can do whatever I want with it. I genuinely. Yes. But I mean with that game. Yes, I don't mean sell it. I don't I mean. All right. I get it. Burn it and sell it. That's all completely reasonable.
Starting point is 01:12:21 I don't mean you break the assets out to put in my game. All right. That makes toast, which becomes now later on. Game is dead. I took it made an online version. But here, just download it free. And so and so when when the way that I look at this is I bought this game, you tell me I can't play it. I say I can be playing it.
Starting point is 01:12:41 I all I'm it's more just it's not it's not along the lines of don't do it's more along the lines of like I can see why the company would be like, hmm, can we stop that? You know, I can understand where they're coming from. Like an exception. They're like, I mean, I'm sure a final fantasy is going to I'm sure Square is going to kill FF 11 at some point. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:01 It's a shame. And they're going to kill it. And it's going to be like, OK, move over to 14 now. Fuckers, pay your 14 subs. I think they're not going to be like, oh, yeah, there's some FF 11 private servers. I heard somewhere they were they were trying to make the story of Final Fantasy 11 like accessible for people who haven't played the game.
Starting point is 01:13:20 That's ridiculous. Everyone was going, oh, and it's a mobile game. It's what else would it be? People are going like, oh, maybe we'll get like a 3DS game or something like that where they could really simplify the story. But nah, nah, that's what I've heard. Anyway, they're going to like try and turn it into like some kind of mobile thing. So it's like the end game story of FF 11 is actually pretty interesting. I've never played it.
Starting point is 01:13:41 I really want to do the final primary threat of Final Fantasy 11 is the the game closing really. It is a concept known as the empty and the empty is just like the world just disappears and it is a metaphor for the eventual closure of the game. That's great. And it is described like, no, this isn't going to stop ever. Yeah, slow it down by buying the expansion. You get that's you but you can do all this shit.
Starting point is 01:14:06 But like, no, it's it's going to go away. That's really good. Oh, and, you know, as as as makes sense when you go into a genre that like is finite by transient, you know, like more than anything else. Well, maybe not World of Warcraft. Well, more than any other genre. But yes, yes. Yeah, I suppose. Oh, World of Warcraft.
Starting point is 01:14:27 Oh, there will there will believe it's still around. There will be a day and it'll be on CNN. You know what I mean? When it does happen, but it'll happen. I'll be real every now and then. I just like I think and I get like something in my chest. I'm like, what if they did? Wow, too.
Starting point is 01:14:49 What do you mean? What if you don't think you're going to see that in your lifetime? I don't. I absolutely don't think so. Really, they came out of a statement, basically, and they said, like, well, the MMO genre is dying. If we were to make World of Warcraft 2, it would get like, you know, let's say we wouldn't be profiting. So it's all about the profit, really.
Starting point is 01:15:10 My general view about World of Warcraft is they will not kill Warcraft. The only way for us to get something like a Warcraft 4 or something like that is if World of Warcraft dies. Yeah, they will not give up Azeroth so easily. They will keep Azeroth. They'll keep making games of it. But I think they're going to continue it. So basically like World of Warcraft dies, maybe five years after they go,
Starting point is 01:15:31 return to Azeroth in the new, you know, multiplayer World of Warcraft game or something like that. But I think that will only happen when World of Warcraft just I I don't want Warcraft 4 anymore, man. OK, I could see our lifetime somewhere there being a game that they basically decide to make that is not it doesn't necessarily work. Wow, too. But if MMOs are dying and they put out a statement going that they're concerned
Starting point is 01:15:58 about that, right? And that's why they wouldn't do that. If anyone's in a position to reinvent the MMO, it's blizzard. You know what I mean? Sure. I feel like they would have the ability to, like, basically get the grounds, get the get off the ground. It's called Overwatch. That is true. Sure. Do you want to go Titan? Titan. Titan, yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:19 I think I think it's entirely plausible that we'll see a spiritual success. Yeah, rid of all that server shit and just make him pay us money. Maybe because as time, like, remember, man, as time goes on, like, you know, like any you can never say never anymore these days, like things come back and things get sequels and things get re-released and the first MMO to introduce VR pornography will be the next big thing. My favorite VR porn chat.
Starting point is 01:16:49 I want to fuck a night elf. There you go. I mean, they're really tall. They are. They're real. I don't. Yeah. Amazons. Pretty good. No, they're way lankier than Amazons. I guess so. Yeah. What a warcraft, guys.
Starting point is 01:17:08 Yeah. You want to, you want to, what is it? They call them toons. You want to fuck your toons? Oh, that is it. Yeah. Go to Goldshire. Oh, yeah. That was, that was the thing. World of Warcraft. Don't wait. Did you say go to Goldshire? Are you fucking degenerate fuck? That's what I mean. They had, like, so many memes of that,
Starting point is 01:17:27 like specifically for that. It's ridiculous. Every MMO has the fucking shithole. It does. In WoW, it was location. It was Goldshire. What's Goldshire? It's the level one starting area for humans. Yeah. Everybody goes to Goldshire. Okay.
Starting point is 01:17:43 In Final Fantasy 14, it's not a location. It's a server. Balmung? Balmung. The RP server. Okay. AKA, you want some fuck ASL? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:17:54 It's bad. Balmung players are fucking degenerate scumbags, and you all fucked up the goddamn Primal, sir. What is it? Them Primal or Aether? Something along the line. You fucked up your data center with your jank shit. They had to fucking institute login things,
Starting point is 01:18:10 specifically to kick Balmung players off, because they'd fucking idle for 24 hours so they could RP at a moment's notice. I think there was also like a Final Fantasy 14 kind of meat thing where they asked questions about the game. And I think like some Balmung players came in like, when are we getting more, more skimpy costumes? And the developers are just like,
Starting point is 01:18:28 what are we, you know what? Every fucking Q&A and a live letter that gets fucking a question stolen by the fucking ass slider question, when are we gonna get ass sliders for our characters? It's real. Those are Balmung players. They sure are.
Starting point is 01:18:43 Hey man. I'm not gonna hit on an ass slider. I'll tell you what. Apparently in the original Final Fantasy 14, they actually had like butts, but then from what I've heard. The model changes removed everyone's butts. I will not, I will not protest an ass slider.
Starting point is 01:18:58 I will not. I to be to be fair, neither would I. But I find it really funny that for the, I've heard that for PS3 limitations, they had to remove the enlarging of parts. So basically for PS3, PS3 ruined it for everyone. Every online community has that little part that's like the fucking degenerate part.
Starting point is 01:19:19 Yeah, the film. It's bad. I think, I don't know, like block of players for street fighters. Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. I think I might be immune to whatever it is that makes people like really get like super into MMOs for a long period of time.
Starting point is 01:19:33 You're not hooked on progression. It's why you haven't devoured Monster Hunter like everybody else that I know that's playing Monster Hunter because you're appreciating as an action game. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, that's super real. I'm super playing it like an action game.
Starting point is 01:19:47 Instead of giving a goddamn shit about, who cares about the action? I want that shiny hat. No, I'm fighting bosses doing moves. It's just a giant boss. And that's why, and you're on the low compulsive end of that spectrum. Very, very low.
Starting point is 01:20:03 And so it has to be something like Monster Hunter. It has to have enough moves and enough action. If I was unlocking move lists as progression. Yeah. Oh my God, I'm in. You're unlocking hands. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:20:15 That would that. And that's what MMOs are, right? Yeah, it's progression. Okay. Yeah. And themed progression. Because it's not that I've never played an MMO. It's just I've never played one longer than like a month.
Starting point is 01:20:24 That was a month early. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think I was on Ragnarok on and off for like four or five months. That's a blast. The original, original Ragnarok. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That would really nice pick. And then I just got extremely bored.
Starting point is 01:20:37 And that was the end of that. No, it's okay. So there's two forms of validating rewards. There's internal validation and there's external validation, right? The MMO, the Monster Hunter, is just externalized validation pornography. It is, you did the thing, explosion of lights. Yeah. Big number, shiny thing that you get to keep forever.
Starting point is 01:20:58 It's, that's all it is, right? Yeah. And there is a little bit of internal validation if you're like, oh, I beat that thing with my team or, you know, whatever, right? I got the level or you play fighting games. Fighting games have you won at the end of the round. There's very little to no external validation in the fighter, but it's all internal.
Starting point is 01:21:16 It's, oh, I beat that cross-up. I beat that thing, right? And so you're, you're, you're much more centered on internal validation, whereas people who play these games are nearly exclusively centered on external validation makes so much sense. Got big numbers, big numbers. Now everybody is some mix of the two. Like, I like to fucking get good at a fighting game,
Starting point is 01:21:37 but there's a part of me that's just like, oh, that number got so big. Yeah. Yeah. And that's people who are watching Dragon Ball right now. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:21:44 You're like, when's Goku gonna get even bigger than you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's so true. Interesting. It's the kind of thing where like you, you play and it's, you get a bit of armor and you go, oh, on all of that, and you have to keep grinding and grinding against the same monster, gaining scales out of like a 10% drop rate or a 1% drop rate.
Starting point is 01:22:01 And that's why I feel like it's an immunity. That's why you have it in your heart to play Blanka, because not only are you not going to receive external validation from the game, but you will receive explicit anti-validation from everyone around you in real life. Yes. Yes. Yeah, here we go. And it's not affecting you because you still want to play your shitty character
Starting point is 01:22:24 with your annoying bullshit. You see fucking Flo watch the Blanka trailer and start talking about how fucking, if you got to be a good Blanka player, you have to be a shitty fighting game player, because there's no such thing as a solid Blanka, because if you're solid Blanka, then you're not scary. Don't talk to them. Don't shake their hands.
Starting point is 01:22:46 Don't make eye contact. You have to be doing all sorts of stupid shit that's bad for fighting games in order to be a good Blanka. Oh, that's great. That's great. Like in BlazBlue, it's Iracune players get this kind of thing. It's like, fuck, you get over a game, you stupid ass. That's great.
Starting point is 01:23:06 I fucking love Flo so much. He's fantastic. When it comes to like MMOs, I'm thinking back to the other thing I spent some time on was Grawl, which was the game that was based on, do you know the Grawl? No, I don't. Never heard of this. Really? Yeah, I'm surprised.
Starting point is 01:23:23 I played a good bit of Grawl. I was like, I don't know. And let me, G-R-A-A-L, right? You never ever heard of that. Grawl was a thing. Grawl was an MMO that was basically meant to look like a link to the past. Oh, my God. And it was basically like, but you can almost customize and load in your own assets and
Starting point is 01:23:42 swords and weapons and shit. It was really, really customizable. Interesting. And so, and that was what I had fun with was the level of like making my own dude and doing my thing because it's again, it's super Zelda style. 2008. And there was a server where you, there was a website where you would go and straight up like you could invent your, you can make your own weapon and then load it up and then
Starting point is 01:24:08 like create the transparencies and it becomes your item. All right. Okay. That's, I can see. I can see why that would appeal to you. Very fun. Yes. Very fun doing all that, you know.
Starting point is 01:24:17 And this game is poison for Pat. And I don't know whatever happened to it, but. I think it's dead because when I typed in Grawl, the first result was Grawl upload. Okay. But like, yeah, imagine you're playing an, imagine you're a link to the past MMO with customization. All right. I can see that.
Starting point is 01:24:36 All about that life. Sure. Right. You know, kind of similar onto that. One of the ones I played a little maple story. Certainly was. Side scrolling MMO. Certainly was.
Starting point is 01:24:50 That, now that is a grind. Yeah. That is a grind. You spend literally a day smacking green slimes and you can just get your wizard up to like level five. Yeah. That was, it's still going. I think they're trying to do maple story too.
Starting point is 01:25:06 Yeah. I play, I played it for about 10, 15 minutes to appreciate the sprites because the sprites are gorgeous. They really are. I really like the art style and maple story, but that was it for me. Yeah. I appreciate the, the, how different it is to other MMOs in that it's side scrolling. And it's kind of like this platform.
Starting point is 01:25:21 That's, that is cool. That is cool. Yeah. It's a platforming side scrolling MMO. I can't. And it's, it's, I mean, the art's cute. You can see. I, I, yeah, I really have lots of love for the art.
Starting point is 01:25:32 I appreciate it. You're dragging the anime crowd for real and the anime crowd are always dying for their MMO. You know, I remember when I was a kid and I was really into Naruto and stuff like that. I was like looking to play Naruto online. Oh, you ought to tell that fucking Naruto story on the podcast. You dumb shit. Which one? One with your arm.
Starting point is 01:25:50 No. All right. Uh, so when I was a little baby boy, um, in high school, early high school, I was doing my ninjutsu's in my room. Yeah. Yeah. I was doing it. Were you?
Starting point is 01:25:59 What, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, yeah. Going really, doing all that. And I, I span and I, I punched the wall so hard. Sure did. My arm, I went like that. Like, like lightning bolt chakra beat. Oh, I don't know. It's like you go from like the toughest ninja in the leaf village to going,
Starting point is 01:26:20 mom. Oh no. Yeah. I couldn't tell anyone at school. I was like, yeah, I fell down the stairs. Clems was that kid. I, so hard. Just tell everyone it's your Chidori scar.
Starting point is 01:26:32 That's all. Don't worry about it. I tried to do Resengan. It went really bad. Yeah. I had to kill my friend. So yeah. So he tells me like I was trying to do my Resengan and I'm like,
Starting point is 01:26:42 but you hit the wall with your fist, Resengan's open palm. Yeah. I messed up really bad. It was my first try. I got there eventually, thankfully. So you know, you guys have so much in common. Hey man. Good old Naruto.
Starting point is 01:26:58 One time I kicked a tree. Yeah. And I tried to catch the leaves. It didn't work. Oh, you did it too. I tried to Epo. Oh. Not a lot of leaves fell.
Starting point is 01:27:12 No, it's not. That was always the thing about that bit that always got me. It's like, how many leaves are going to fall out of this tree every time he does it? Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's really funny.
Starting point is 01:27:24 It's a very, it's a very like, like emulatable scene. And you know, and you watch that and you, your impressionable mind goes. When I was a kid, I, and we were fighting Zabu. Hold on. My impressionable mind of three years ago. Yeah. Yes. I remember when I was younger and I was watching the Zabu's that fight.
Starting point is 01:27:43 Best villain. Yeah. Yeah. Really, really good. And they're running across the water with like, with practice and everything. Yep. Being a dumb kid. Yep.
Starting point is 01:27:51 I was like, I want to do that one day. Oh boy. Shut up. I am not. Oh man. I was thinking like, could Ninjas do this for real? Oh wow. I, I, you know, Pat, I'm not a smart boy.
Starting point is 01:28:05 How old were you? Oh, must have been like nine or 10. That's too old. Yeah. No, it's way too old. But it's, but it's like nine or 10 with Naruto in your childhood is like, just such a foreign concept to me. Oh man.
Starting point is 01:28:18 That's so weird. Yeah. Yeah. Cause it's like, I'm going to grow up to be Optimus Prime and be a truck. Like that's not a thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:25 Yeah. Yeah. Right. No. I remember the exact time it was when Shippuden came out and I was like, I'm done. I'm done with this. It was turning, it was turning into more Dragon Balls Eve and these really fun like. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:35 That's what I quit too. But that's what I don't quit. But you were just like, I guess way, way younger. Yeah. Exactly. And I was still at that point where I was like, yeah, this isn't as good. Like Rock Lee versus Gaara. That's still great.
Starting point is 01:28:47 Episode 48, man. Can't, can't shit on it. Nobody can shit on it. Even if you hate Naruto. It's one of the only things that lives up to the hype. It's so good. And that, when you, that type of thing gives you a reason to keep going and be like, what if another one of these happens?
Starting point is 01:29:02 I remember. I don't want to miss out. He took off those weights and I was like. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Because everyone thought Piccolo was a bad ass, right? With the weighted clothing and everyone like the Dragon Ball version of that. And then like, Naruto goes, we're going to one up that shit.
Starting point is 01:29:16 Look at this fucking. And now it's like, why doesn't he just cause explosions whenever he runs? Basically. We're not, we're not going to say. That's just chakran. I, why, why, why, why went to school with a dude who started walking around with ankle weights? Almost did. Ah!
Starting point is 01:29:30 Almost did. No, no! Mine is worse. No! Mine is worse. No, so it would keep my, all of my, all of my friends were into it as well. We came into school with the headbands. Oh.
Starting point is 01:29:43 Yeah, huh? Okay, so here. It was like the group of nerds. So we weren't like isolated. Wearing them? In, not in class. When we were outside, we were like wearing them. Like it was kind of like a jokey.
Starting point is 01:29:53 Okay. It wasn't like completely serious. But we were like, yeah, we got like the coolest things you know what I mean? Like. Because I had one. Yeah, yeah. But I tied it to my bag. Yeah, because you were an adult!
Starting point is 01:30:06 I was, I was like a kid. And this was before any translations were really going down officially. This was back when the only thing was your fansubs and your manga scans. Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. So I was like, this is going to be a big, huge cool anime when it gets here eventually. But for now, I like this. This is cool. And anyone who else who recognizes it, you're on the inside.
Starting point is 01:30:28 Right. Yeah, yeah. You know what this leaves. That was a, bye, Pat. You got that obscure knowledge, right? You're into the, you're into the good new shit. Yeah. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:30:40 Naruto, that obscure ass new manga. Yep. Yep. I've said this so many times on my podcast, but growing up with Naruto at my age is like the plague. Yeah. You, you are so impressionable and you grow up with this stuff. You're like those, I remember in class and I was trying to concentrate doing shikimaru's. Yes.
Starting point is 01:31:01 The hand, the hand. Yes. Absolutely. I was like, oh, I'm going to, I'm going to be so good in this exam. See, and the thing is, is being like one generation above that was comparing it to the mistakes of the past and going like dragon ball was a cool thing. Then that was what I was impressionable to sure at that age. I'm lucky.
Starting point is 01:31:20 But it was always, but the problem was it was always really slow, badly paced and boring because I didn't even understand the concept of really filler. You know, but they were stalling for time so long. And it was so awful that it'd be like, okay, we're charging up for a whole episode. Really? And that was always really annoying as a kid. So the idea that Naruto would come along and then eventually beat that and, and, and like, you know, one up and learn from it and learn from dragon balls mistakes was very exciting
Starting point is 01:31:46 as a premise at the time. Naruto was my Dragon Ball Z. It made brand new mistakes. Then it made brand new mistakes. So it's like, I remember like, I actually have something to say about this part of the conversation. I remember talking to Willy about DBZ and Naruto back like fucking 10 years ago. And I remember saying, well, there's a lot of filler. This was like halfway during the filler apocalypse.
Starting point is 01:32:10 Yeah. But on the plus side, when they're done with all this filler, you can just ignore it and go back to the original episode list that matters. Exactly. Exactly. And then Shippuden came out. Yeah. And I was talking to what he had not watched it and I was talking to him about the first
Starting point is 01:32:26 episode and I was telling him, oh, this shit looks bad. He's like, what the fuck are you talking about? They're adding filler in the middle. It wasn't enough. And that's when everybody just, everyone gave up. But to paint a realistic picture here, right, you have to understand that right now, as adults, yes, we like my hero academia a lot because it's great. It's fun.
Starting point is 01:32:49 Imagine if it started becoming garbage, terrible and shit. Imagine if it started getting infinitely worse. And imagine if it became the new obsession of all kids here. I've seen people say that. Right? Yeah. Because it's still not that now. It's still not a thing that people really know about in terms of like your sister's kid.
Starting point is 01:33:12 Don't make fun of my green naruto. You know what I mean? Your niece and nephew don't know what that is yet, right? Because so it's still right there. You don't know, I think I stuck with my hero academia because those first two episodes are so good. I could pretty much drop it episode two because it's the bit where they're crying and I'm like, you know what, this is great. And then the rest of it is just like, all right, it's naruto but with superheroes and it's kind of funnier.
Starting point is 01:33:36 Yeah. So I'm like, all right, I'm kind of getting flashbacks here. Yeah. But it's just to put you like, because we can laugh about the fucking naruto past because it's hilarious. It really is. But you have to understand how convincing that world was. It's the world we're in now. We're a cool new fucking hero shows out and doing cool things.
Starting point is 01:33:53 So we're going to get kids who will. And eventually, if marry my hero academia, shits the bed and becomes a huge mess and everything gets embarrassing and we look back 10 years from now and go, oh my god, kid. I can't believe, oh you were in the microwave with your eggs. Oh plus ultra, what a cringe, right? And then it goes that way, you'll be like, well, fuck. At the time, I thought, but we'll be old then. So fuck those kids.
Starting point is 01:34:18 Sure. I think, but I'm just saying it's not unlike right now. Another one that really hit that note was Attack on Titan. That was, it wasn't naruto because it was like adult and it was gory as hell. But whenever you go to a convention, there will be the squad kind of jacks. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was huge. For sure.
Starting point is 01:34:40 If I had to compare it to anything, I still think Death Note is fantastic. It's kind of like. Are you being an Netflix movie? Yeah, no, maximum con saturation. Yeah, yeah. You have your Akatsuki robe and then you have your wings of freedom jacket. Yeah, exactly. Like the Akatsuki or whatever they're called.
Starting point is 01:34:58 Those robes are now dying out. It's a dying breed. We're now getting the Attack on Titan things like everywhere you look. And the funny thing is I thought about it. I was like, you know, we just, the cons were not a thing that was like as big and as popular because anime wasn't as big as this popular back then. So that we never got an era of like Goku geese that people would just buy at a con. Sure.
Starting point is 01:35:20 You know, we completely missed that because Dragon Ball was pre that era. Yeah. Wow. You would, you would think Piccolo capes and Goku geese would be all over the place as far as just con merch goes. But we, but that it was pre that era by Piccolo cape right the fuck with the shoulder pads. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:40 Oh, I think you need to. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You need to. That's so cool. It's dope.
Starting point is 01:35:47 It's super rad. Absolutely. Piccolo's design with his cape and his cloak and his hat was always my favorite. It's really, really good. I still think, I still think Saiyans tights are cool. Yeah. You mean the, the fucking yellow armor with the shoulderless, the shoulder padless version. Okay.
Starting point is 01:36:05 Yeah. Yeah. You're right. You know, it's still red. Um, and you fucking trunks it up and then you get yourself a badass character design. Anyway, uh, yeah, that's all it is, is, you know, so, so that, that Naruto headband on my bag. Yeah. Was, uh, I don't know, wearing a fucking, what would it be for Hero Aka?
Starting point is 01:36:27 Oh man. You know, is there any like thing? Maybe like a froppy key chain. Maybe a froppy key chain or like, or like either that or just like a, a, a fucking, um, uh, Midori, uh, helmet, you know, or something like that. Like whatever, but just a little like thing like that, you know. Sorry. What's the main, like the, the buff guy who's not buff guy?
Starting point is 01:36:49 What's his name again? You need to be more specific. The, the, the guy who Midori looks up to like, Oh my dude. All my, okay. All my, it's like hero face. Yes. I can see that becoming.
Starting point is 01:36:58 That could be a thing. Yeah, yeah. That could be a thing. Yeah. But even if it was just like the logo, you know what I mean? But that's all it was. That's all, that's what it was, right? And, and, and you know, like bleach like came along and everyone kind of like,
Starting point is 01:37:10 I bald it for a second and you're like, no, I used to be pretty good to bleach. I watched it up until the filler and then I, and then I dropped off and then. I watched it all the way up till the Aaron car. We're getting their fucking masks and then I skipped the filler parts. Well, I don't even know what you're talking about. Yeah, it's, it's right. When they're like, we need to get big ass masks. It's one of those masks that started to go fight.
Starting point is 01:37:32 Eisen, because Eisen's a fuck. All those powered up forms have weird mask things on. Yeah, I did catch some of that. Dude, I fucking on a whim just went and like typed in Eisen versus Ichigo. Sure. Into the thing. Sure. And I didn't get Eisen versus Ichigo.
Starting point is 01:37:47 I got Isago versus the hat guy. Sure. It might be the dumbest fucking awful shonen fight I have fucking ever seen. Oh, dude. Eisen turns into a fucking Ava unit. I don't know. Space alien motherfucker. Here's the thing though.
Starting point is 01:38:03 I was, you know what sold me two things. One, that your obvious guts reference in the first episode moment. And the second thing was the idea of a Meadows Grande peeling back the veil of reality and reaching through is a really cool concept that I was like, yeah. They set it up really good. And then, you know, when you're like soul society was pretty good, but you could see like the cracks starting to fall. Yes.
Starting point is 01:38:27 Soul society was a tournament arc without a tournament arc. And the thing is, is that I, and I, and at that point, that's when I committed and I went, Oh, I've seen, I see it now. There is a formula and it is an initial introduction of the story with the main character doing things normally until something goes horribly wrong. But the main character special and that allows them to pursue it. And then the second thing is introduce all your extra characters and have your tournament arc so that you get to pick your favorites.
Starting point is 01:38:53 And this is like, you're like, this is how you showed in formula the fuck out of it. Really solid formula. My academia is following it so explicitly. Yeah. You got to do the tournament. You got to know who your favorites are going to be. Who's what's the strength chart? What are the toys?
Starting point is 01:39:06 Who should we sell? What's the matchups? Vote. Send your vote in. Hero actor, they even have a fucking, they go to the trouble of having characters talk about like, yeah, he's actually stronger than so-and-so, but he got a really bad matchup in the, in the fucking prelims. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:39:21 I love how they did the tournament art though in Hero Academia. It's like, yeah, it's just a school thing. It's like, what's it called? Like sports day? Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a festival. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:31 It's like, okay, all right. They, they claim, you know, and I mean, and it doesn't matter what you're talking about, like fucking Hunter Hunter or your UU hack shows. Man, Hunter Hunter sucks. Shut your mouth. Irish people don't know what they're talking about because they're too drunk to appreciate a good anime. Or your flame of wreck is or your whatever the, you know, everything eventually ends
Starting point is 01:39:52 in a tournament arc where you get to pick your favorites. Oh yeah, you're right. And then finally, after the tournament arc wraps up, the real villain slash bad guy is a part of the tournament or the rival is, and then they either become reluctant buddies or the villain makes the tournament go horribly wrong because they kill somebody that you didn't expect, you know, whatever the fuck. And then stakes get raised. Mid tournament slash at the end of tournament, stakes get raised.
Starting point is 01:40:17 And now, oh shit, it's on. Thankfully, main character's dad was such a badass. Oh my God, that is like Hunter Hunter. I love that show so much. Oh man, I'm a big fucking aunt, I'm so scary. It's the best arc I've ever played. Yo, you fucker. We watched that fucking, we watched that fucking Oni cartoons fucking video the other day
Starting point is 01:40:39 with the Super Saiyan and he's like, I'm like an aunt if an aunt was this big. Someone made a whole tournament arc out of that stupid shit. I'm going to raise my voice loud if I knew that arc was really goddamn good. The end of the chimera and arc made me cry harder than any shonen anime. Oh no, there's a fucking aunt in my anime. What are we talking about? It's a love story, it's beautiful. What are we even talking about?
Starting point is 01:41:02 Hunter X Hunter. Oh fuck, I'm done with that. So I ask, so I do this thing to Ipatch Wolf. Reboot's probably fine, but I don't give a fuck, I'm done. Well, I do this thing to Ipatch Wolf where I pretend to be interested in Hunter Hunter when I see something stupid and I ask him about it and he explains it to me. And then later, much later, I use that to mock him. Oh no!
Starting point is 01:41:23 So I'm like, what's up with that figure? Iris. What's up with that? I respect it. What's up with that figure with the hair? You know that one from Hunter Hunter? What's up with that? And he told me, I'm like, oh man, that seems pretty cool.
Starting point is 01:41:33 But like... You're keeping it stored. Guess what? That shit's fucking dumb. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I'm, oh, them fighting words. Oh, my hair's so... Who's that cloud guy?
Starting point is 01:41:43 He looks like such a villain. Who's that, what's that clown shit about? Stop making fun of the show. I love it. Stop, please. Oh, I'm a fucking evil clown. I'm the fucking best killer. He's great.
Starting point is 01:41:53 I have real motivations about being a fucking clown. I'm talking about his Soka. His Soka is good. He's really fun. He's like Kefka. He's, he's... Oh wow, he's like Kefka like the Joker. But anime Joker.
Starting point is 01:42:07 Hey, does the reboot explain what a Hunter is at any point? Yeah, they just hunt shit. Okay. Like what? Happy that that's cool. Like monsters. Does it do it within the first 12 episodes? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:18 Cool. What are... That's an improvement. Who are the hunters that are making out with the hunters in this slash fic? So you were... It's titled Hunter X Hunter. So who are the two hunters that are making out? So now I understand your joke.
Starting point is 01:42:32 You were probably in diapers when that original was airing. But if you had, but now that you've, yeah, you've... I heard the myths. So because that's what I'm saying. I'm assuming you grew up and then immediately jumped into like the new thing. Because that's what was around for you in your babby days. I'll be honest. I only watched Hunter X Hunter.
Starting point is 01:42:50 I don't know. People go, I don't call it that, but whatever. I only watched it after I watched Ipatch Wolf's video. Okay. I watched it on Netflix. I didn't know the original show existed. The video that was born into fucking... Because of, yeah, because of you guys.
Starting point is 01:43:04 Okay, yeah. All right, he knows. He knows. He told me about Unvoice as well. He was like, oh yeah, they were making fun of it. And I got really sick of it. I shut up so I didn't make a video. Listen, man.
Starting point is 01:43:15 Like Direct's Hunter and One Piece have taught us that you can make a media empire based on the shittiest looking main characters imaginable. Okay, gone. Yeah, gone is sure. She's not my cup of tea. Let's just say the Ark before the Chimera and Aquaville. And I'm sure there's something incredible that he does with that fishing rod. I'm sure there is, but...
Starting point is 01:43:36 Not really. Kind of maybe. The Ark before the Chimera and Aquaville, they go into an MMO. A whole Ark inside an MMO. Oh, wow. It's literally like if you die in the game, you die in real life. Those animes are always so good. And I know because I watched them.
Starting point is 01:43:54 I'm not an Isakai guy, but whatever. But yes, no, that's like, I want, I just want anyone like you to go back and watch that original series and tell me if you can handle the first 12 episodes. All right. All right, I'll take that on. I'll take that on. Man, I am so... And erase what you know about the future too.
Starting point is 01:44:15 Sure, I am so excited for tomorrow. Oh, yeah. Or not even like, I'm sure people are messaging Wolf right now and being like, they're doing it again. But now he's going to make a second, even bigger channel. What are you going to do? You really need to watch Hunter Hooder. I'm defending my boy here.
Starting point is 01:44:36 He's good. Oh, fuck. All right. There was news once upon a time. Oh, that was a tangent as fuck. Yeah, it sure was. All right. What, what do we got?
Starting point is 01:44:46 Well, the new arc of Hunter X Hunter, gone learns how to not shit his pants because he's a stupid baby. He's a stupid baby boy. Oh, but his, his dad, though, was the best. His dad was so strong. His dad was a legendary pants shitter. He only shit his pants the one time when he saw a big ant. Everyone saw it, but it was super badass.
Starting point is 01:45:07 Those ants are together. Too bad we never found out what happened to legendary pants shitter. Gone's dad. Story starts after he goes missing. Oh, shit. You know what's no longer missing? SMT five. They're working on it for real.
Starting point is 01:45:24 And there's a screenshot. Is that art actually? I guess. I see him. Gone's mom is like, hey, son, you can wear your dad's shit pants. His fucking his big diapers that have gun holsters in them. You can find him maybe if you own. It smells like him.
Starting point is 01:45:41 Shin Megami 10 say five is underway in development. And yeah, it's just an announcement going. Yep, it's happening. We're doing it. Core staff that started the game early in development is gradually increasing. At first console, the first console game in a long time, Atlas wants to create grand content that people can thoroughly
Starting point is 01:46:00 enjoy playing on their TV. That means nothing. I do mean like, like, okay, that is, that is that weird phrasing the Japanese devs use in the like. Please look forward to it. You're right. However, there is actual news where it's they want to include a carefreeness.
Starting point is 01:46:16 Only a handheld system can provide blah, blah, blah. The goal is to make a title for a console and a handheld. I mean, it's on the switch. She consumes us. So three times the amount of effort is being put into demons compared to the previous title. Hell, yeah. Which I'm going to assume means we stole the Persona five models
Starting point is 01:46:33 and they're making more and they're not JPEGs. We're going to we're going to we're going to scale up. All right. Because honestly, I genuinely feel like this, like the PS2 era was one thing, but the Persona five level of detail is fine pretty much for 10 more years. Here's the problem, though,
Starting point is 01:46:50 is the is that some of those custom monster designs from like four, for example, like Minotaur. Fuck that. That's not coming in. I know, but that shit was so fucking cool. Those were all cool. It's too. I thought it was the worst.
Starting point is 01:47:03 That was such a good fucking design. The skull eyes, beautiful nose, and just that's the type of thing you don't want to miss out on in these monsters. So I hope the demons do incorporates at least some cool stuff like that. I think that's who they get to design them. Yeah, they they had the old designs for many, many years. It was their in-house guy. Kaneko would then they got the Kamen Rider
Starting point is 01:47:23 and Gundam guys in to do the four ones. And then it's like, well, are they going to go with those ones? Are they going to go with their older classics? Just just whip Kaneko a little bit harder. That's all. I bet he's tired. Leave him alone. You think you just walk into his office
Starting point is 01:47:39 and he's just painting stripes on the wall? And he's just got he's just putting eyeliner on again. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. He's got a little there's a little bit of that. Stop. Shinkiro problem where it's like a little bit of same face,
Starting point is 01:47:54 but you're an amazing artist. He is. He's good. Anyway, so SMC five. Then there was. Oh, that'll be featuring Dante from Don't Make Crises. It's from this new bug mode. My hero academia game.
Starting point is 01:48:12 Speaking of which. Speaking of which. The most important announcement. Eda is playable. There he is. Eda's playable. Ochako Uraraka is playable. In geniums in the game.
Starting point is 01:48:23 Nothing else matters. He's got the helmet on in his costume. So good. Best design. Done and done and done and done and done. The fucking Gundam is great. What the fucking built in like shine spark. Sam.
Starting point is 01:48:37 He's got a built in shine spark mode. So good. Get the fuck out of here. Yeah, he basically is. But on the other hand, it's like when you're doing an anime game or an existing property, like I'm going to call this the Dragon Ball Z problem.
Starting point is 01:48:54 We're announcing Vegeta. Yeah, no shit. All right. Sure. If you announced. The entire first class should just be in a screenshot. Yeah. And then everyone goes duh.
Starting point is 01:49:07 And then we go, what else is going on? What about the season two? Oh cool. Stain. That's fine. What about the season two class B characters? Those are wildly different. What about Stain?
Starting point is 01:49:15 What about, are we going to get the adults? Show me Nomu. Yeah. Like just fucking, you know, like the duh to the main characters. The boss of this game should be either Nomu or all mine. But yeah, this is what we're doing. I'm one of those. I can imagine Stain.
Starting point is 01:49:28 We're doing it one by one. Um, so that continues. Where's Froppy goddamn? Where the fuck? You best believe Froppy is going to be on the cover. Dude. Yeah. No, for sure.
Starting point is 01:49:38 Yeah. The logo, everything. She's so popular. I don't understand why she's so popular. And yet I am part of that. Yeah. Of course you understand. No, but I don't get the specifics.
Starting point is 01:49:48 But look deep down inside. Search your feelings. You know them to be true. She is her aesthetic. She's just the best. Her aesthetic is female Rock Lee with Frog Tongue. She's just, she's just great. She threw up her stomach, man.
Starting point is 01:50:02 Hell yeah. There's no science behind it. It's just real. It's just cool. It's just real. Her dad has a Frog head. What mode do you want? Oh, I've never seen her dad.
Starting point is 01:50:10 It's really cool. Oh, she's got a fucking Frog head. He's got a Frog head, yeah. That's fucking dumb. Oh man. Like, like, like fucking, like full on Frog style. I think so. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:17 Did you see that there's a fan character that showed up in the manga, like a fan design that they held the contest and he showed up. Oh. He's a fucking centipede in a suit. Oh, wow. Wow. That's great. That's great.
Starting point is 01:50:28 Nice, nice, nice, nice, nice. Very nice. All right. So there was an interesting little interview that went down with Nintendo, specifically the people that handle their like indie game side of things. And it was kind of interesting because they basically had a candid discussion in which they said that their approach to indies on Switch is basically seeing them the exact same as AAAs.
Starting point is 01:50:58 Makes sense because there's a shit ton of awesome indies on that plot. And they don't categorize them in any separate way or want to list them in any separate way. Yeah. Doom was right next to Stardew Valley. Yeah. And the reasons why the main, the motivation behind that is because they don't want to run the risk of like, first of all, I didn't know this, but indie games, not a huge thing in Japan.
Starting point is 01:51:18 Yeah. I am aware of this. Okay. Right. A lot of indies not doing that well. People don't tend to pay that much attention. You know, you know, Maki from old one up guy. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:29 He went out to Japan to organize some indie events a few years ago because there were essentially none. Wow. And the way that indie development worked in Japan is you would bust your ass and make your indie game and then go down to Akihabara and sell it on the fucking street and hope like 10,000 people bought it. Like you made Nicky. You could eat.
Starting point is 01:51:48 Yeah, like you made Nicky. And that that was there because PC, right? PC was never big and all that in Japanese, you know. So yeah, it's it's it's weird. And I guess I just I kind of assumed that, you know, like the like all these great indies that we've been playing for the last five years, just naturally we're being played elsewhere, you know, in that way, but it's very Western. So with that Nintendo's approach, because a lot of their marketplace is has a bunch of
Starting point is 01:52:17 indies on it and sitting like you said, right next to doom, you know, so dude, I have my switch with me now. I could pull it out. It's like 80, 90 percent indie games. Yeah, yeah. The other 10 percent is Nintendo games. And so they do. And so what they don't want to happen is for them to create a label that then people
Starting point is 01:52:33 look at and go, although that's just a section of bad games completely make sense. Right. They don't want people to start like, you know, differentiating it and then seeing it as what they say is a branding something in a way that would cause others to ignore it. They don't want the Nintendo Xbox Live Indies channel. So. Oh, OK. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:54 So that's basically their approach to it. And that's why it seems like they're just trying to shoot switch titles as these are switch titles. The end. Sure. You know, they're good. They're good. I'd like to find.
Starting point is 01:53:02 I'd like to find out a bit more about why indies don't take up. They don't have as much influence in terms of Japanese players. I'm going to assume it's a lack of familiarity with that that that range of game. I'm going to guess. But that being said, like word of mouth. They do have the best series and stuff like that. Yeah. And you would think that like, you know, I assume that like word of mouth would just
Starting point is 01:53:25 kind of travel and make it like, you know, make it around. Not necessarily. Yeah, it's difficult because who cares about what those Westerners think? They all like the shoot games. Certainly. But I'm sure like, I don't know, like, but you don't think people around the world would enjoy like a good undertale. I'm like, I'm undertale to my knowledge did all right in Japan.
Starting point is 01:53:46 It actually did. It feels like it has to. It's that kind of game. But we're not talking about the smash hit indies. We're talking about indies overall. Sure. Teeny tiny little baby boys. Like something like La Mulana or or Rogue Legacy.
Starting point is 01:54:00 Or Momodora. Sure. But I can't for some reason I can't see them getting any traction in Japan because they're just not big enough. And because they're relegated to these these channels usually. So I can totally get where Nintendo is coming from on this. Yeah. I agree.
Starting point is 01:54:17 And then Nintendo doing a smart thing. What the fuck? What? Yeah, it's interesting. Let me upload my fucking saves, you cunts. And they're introducing a player's voice, whatever like like indies as as voted according to popularity questionnaires. Oh, I should say.
Starting point is 01:54:35 So that's that's a thing. So Stardew Valley is an absolutely fucking destroying switch to sales. Really? It's like the third most popular game on the switch. That's why it's always on the front page. Yeah. I think it's I think it's literally Zelda, Mario, then Stardew Valley. I contributed to that because I bought it on the switch and it's great.
Starting point is 01:54:49 Yeah. I picked it up, but I've never played it. OK, it's good fun. Good to burn. I hear I hear that it's a nice like it fills the gap that that which I'm going to call it Harvest Moon left in yourself. Absolutely does. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:05 You can you can fight monsters in a very terraria kind of way. But it's it's a good fun little game. The Nintendo also kind of explained a little bit more about what the fuck Labo actually is via a series of Labo, Labo, Labo videos. Labo is coming, my favorite. And they kind of just go into a an actual breakdown of, you know, what you're going to be getting when you buy these boxes, right? And what you're doing.
Starting point is 01:55:34 And more importantly, like what is the mystery behind how these things fucking work? Right. So in the in the trailers, you kind of get to see that like it's like, yeah, the a lot of it is going to be basically like Joy-Con vibration and tilt. And you know what I mean? Like it just kind of detecting like the specifics of those things to work. Oh, OK. Gyro sensors and shit and so on.
Starting point is 01:55:59 But what was really cool about this actual trailer that I was like, OK, you know what? You've got something here is it's a it's a it's a long breakdown of the whole thing. And it goes through each of the different Toy-Con varieties. One, they go to the robot and then you go, OK, yeah, that looks super dope because robots are robots are cool. And the other thing they show you is towards the end, there is a custom make your own make your own what? Like Labo thing.
Starting point is 01:56:30 People are going to abuse that. It's and it's very and there's a whole like an experimental. There's a lab section, basically, where you go to like a training kind of like make your own Labo invention mode and then input output is determined by you. And what you want the controller to do when you do this thing or when that thing happens. So like, yeah, we're actually going to this crazy world of amazing paper craft artists and all those people that make those ridiculous stuff that we've seen online, probably making templates that you can then upload and then share online.
Starting point is 01:57:01 And then you can fuck those. And then you can hold them. Exactly. It almost feels like like the Nintendo gimmick came in late. Yeah, it did. It did. Yeah. So it's like the Wii U's gimmick and everything like that.
Starting point is 01:57:15 Oh, we got another screen. This one is like, OK, here's the switch. It's a handheld and a console. But it's like, just give it a few months. Also cardboard. Yes. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 01:57:24 Yeah. That's what it feels like. Super strange. And you know, and again, and it's just like overflowing with that like get the kids talking about this, make it the new Christmas buzz. Yeah, this is going to be the new hot shit for sure. Easily. Easily.
Starting point is 01:57:40 The hottest thing is shit. And I think, yeah, so there's that the robot thing. And here's another part about the Labo robot kit is that like besides the whole like stomp around and do your thing and destroy the world and play the single player game, I'm to I'm to understand there's a multiplayer mode. Shut up. Oh my god. And that it's a local multiplayer mode.
Starting point is 01:58:02 Yeah. Let me see. That's crazy. Look at him go. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So there's these three videos up that the Nintendo just put up.
Starting point is 01:58:10 What's what's to stop you from just fucking wrecking your friends. Just fighting your friends. Just fucking just fighting real life. Tear his labo shit off his back and then stomp his ass. Big brothers and little brothers are going to have. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:24 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So full on fighting game robot mode. Oh, where you are in your labo fucking robot suit. And then you're doing it side by side. That reminds me ratchet and clank that bit just there.
Starting point is 01:58:37 Yeah. We control clank in his big robot form. You have to jump on buildings and shit. So and it's customized your robots of course too. In a very custom robot kind of way. So yeah. Cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:48 They know. All right. And and also like that feature set on its own. Like it feels like this robot kit is like geared towards the like not child necessarily but gamer audience like us. You know what I'm looking forward to. I'm looking forward to all the footage of people looking like fucking jackasses using this shit. Right.
Starting point is 01:59:08 Yeah. When you can just Photoshop. Okay. But hey, notice that you see like this one for example screenshot of this dumb head thing that kids are wearing and whatever. Some of the pieces have slots for the Joy-Con to go up there. So you actually do need it worn for accuracy tracking when you're using the robot because it needs that it needs a controller up there.
Starting point is 01:59:30 You know what it is. You know I just realized what it is. It's the camera. You know how Nintendo was like we have no interest in VR and 4k but what they did. Yeah. They were like man all of our competitors have products that make you look like a fucking asshole. Yeah. We need a product that makes you look like an asshole.
Starting point is 01:59:49 What if we can trick kids into looking like assholes. And look they even have a little cardboard VR helmet on. Oh fuck these. They did it somehow. They figured it out. Yeah. It's fucking genius in its simplicity and its ridiculous like money printing potential. Oh sure sure.
Starting point is 02:00:08 So print cardboard get money. Um yeah. These kids look so fucking happy. It makes me sick. They really do. Oh shut up. Shack Fu back. Did you see the trailer for Shack Fu?
Starting point is 02:00:23 Oh my god. Shack Fu back. But it's not a fighting game this time. It's a beat em up. I'm so excited. Shack Fu Legendary Born. Yeah. This is the new vanilla game.
Starting point is 02:00:33 In 1994 Shack Fu was released. You gotta eat that mic, Clems. Wah. Shack Fu was released. It sucked. It sucked. Are you serious? Is this a real trailer?
Starting point is 02:00:47 This is a real trailer and they're showing footage of the single player mode of Shack Fu. All right. One man has returned to settle the score of 94. Weird how they choose to go with that route instead of the versus mode. Yeah. Yeah. So Shack is. What the fuck?
Starting point is 02:01:02 Shack is doing his beat em up adventure as announced last year. This looks really bad. And Shack is rapping and he's doing his Shack Fu theme song because he has an album too. Shack has an album? A Legendary Born. He tried rapping for a while. It was a thing. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 02:01:24 Oh, I heard it for a second there. Yeah. Oh, that's Shack Fu Legendary Born. He's finally back. Yes. We've all been waiting for. Shack can't do everything. You can't do it all.
Starting point is 02:01:35 Is being one of the greatest basketball players of all time and being a huge asshole like being tall? I mean, he seems nice. Except for when he's singing Kobe, tell me how my ass tastes. Oh. And then like he gets his like constable ship revoked from the police. But anyway. That was him just being polite. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:58 Oh, yeah. Then we've got this is a weird one. But like you brought this up and it was like apparently when you just plug first person mode into evil within it just fucking works. Yeah, so this was there was a mod that came out and it was like, oh, man, this mod requires almost nothing to to work. And the devs are like, hey, then they made a first person mode. So fucking first person modes in the evil within two.
Starting point is 02:02:27 Now you play it like a goddamn Resident Evil seven. Cool. And that game's great. So you should try that out if you have it. Never played Resi seven. Really want to. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:37 It's good. I seem to have seen a lot of like. Oh, Resi, Resi, Resi evil. Anyway, yeah. So this just drops it and PS4 pro only fixes an issue or native resolution. Oh, that was a fucked up thing where I didn't run in 4k properly. Gotcha. So they finally patch that.
Starting point is 02:03:01 Cool. There's going to be. We talked about Mega Man. Coming out again. And so there's legacy collections for fucking everything basically on the way. If you ever want, if you somehow missed out on Mega Man, really? So yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:24 Hey, guess what? Legacy collection one and two. I am getting them. Right. One through 10 and then Mega Man X legacy collection. So one through eight all there. Oh, happy day. For you.
Starting point is 02:03:38 Can they not just make a collection that's just two, three, X, X, two, X3 and X4? The elitist collection. Yeah. The elitist series. Is it a collection that matters collection? Yeah, man. And throw in like the zero games. Yeah, fuck off.
Starting point is 02:03:53 Fuck you. Fuck off. I'm definitely getting on the switch just because it made for it. A zero series plus ZX and ZXH needs to happen. Yes. Or as we say, ZX Advent. Whoa. That's crazy, dog.
Starting point is 02:04:08 You can't believe it. And last but not least, we've got the trailer for Attack on Titan 2. Oh, dude, you were bringing this up. I was talking about this the other day. Yeah. This trailer is nuts. It has a feature at the end of it, which is shocking. Shocking to behold.
Starting point is 02:04:31 So there he is. This game looks great. It's monkey trouble. Sure does. This looks absolutely fantastic. You get to create your own character. What? Which is something that the Attack on Titan world has desperately needed for a while.
Starting point is 02:04:45 Yeah. Because we already know what the body looks like. Just customize the head. That's it. It's such an easy, free thing. It takes place in the second season, which has tons and tons of crazy shit to do. Oh boy. You still get to play as all the other characters, obviously.
Starting point is 02:04:59 You just can make your own creative. But just, yeah, choose your head and choose the logo on the back of your fucking cape. Done. And you got lots of city destruction now. You got way more abnormals. You got more of the story moments, like fighting any and stuff like that. Oh yeah, look at that. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:05:14 But the thing that happens at the end of this trailer that, if you didn't read it in an article, it's kind of confusing. At the very, very, very end of the trailer, he talks to a fucking, it must be before that, but he talks to Mina, the girl with black hair and two uh, black braids that go down. There was an errands first squad and she's in town as a quest NPC. And basically this game has an unlockable feature in which you can run super hard missions to change the story and get dead people and save them and essentially get them.
Starting point is 02:05:55 So like, you know, errands first team that all get horribly murdered. Yeah. If you go back to a super hard version of that mission, you can save them. Wow. And they will show up as as town NPCs and shit like that. That's really interesting. It's fucking weird.
Starting point is 02:06:10 Yeah. It's super weird. And they're like, and it's basically like, do you miss your favorite character because they're dead? That's a cool thing. That's a cool thing a video game can do. Yeah. Because they don't give a shit.
Starting point is 02:06:22 Wow. Cool. Okay. Also apparently has online play. We're seeing all sorts of shit. It's nice that we're here after being in a world where we're like playing JavaScript games and browsers. Let it run.
Starting point is 02:06:37 Watch the, watch the video. We'll look at it. Look at it. Vita, Vita version. Did you see it? Switch version. Did you see the Vita version? How it ran like four frames a second?
Starting point is 02:06:48 Are you seeing this? You can see it. My baby. The PSP. Sorry. The Vita version is going to be so bad, dude. Oh, wow. Like so bad.
Starting point is 02:06:55 Yeah. Whatever you're talking about is like not at the end of the trailer. But anyway. While it was in an article. Somewhere in there. I saw an article. Okay. So yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:03 Sweet. I tried. So that thing's coming. And honestly like custom character is like, please thank you. A custom Titan would be fun. Yeah. That'd be a really fun thing to be able to do. I'm worried that you'll be extraordinarily disappointed by this character creator.
Starting point is 02:07:21 Oh, I'm sure I will. All like, it's a head creator. I'm fine. Well, I get it, you know. But I expect you go head and then his skin tone is normal and other German and Japanese. Yeah. Sure. Sure.
Starting point is 02:07:38 I would like, though, like, yeah. A Titan creator would be fun because then you could send it into your friends games. Yeah. Just see what happens. Exactly. I want to have the really big head, but really small limbs. I want to see how that works. Yay.
Starting point is 02:07:51 Mr. Potato Head. Yeah. Cool. Uh, let's take some emails. If you want to send an email to this podcast and we might read it. Where would you send that, Clems? Fuck if I know. That's the right answer.
Starting point is 02:08:11 That's super best friendcast at gmail.com. That's super best friendcast at gmail.com. And if you do, it might sound a little something like. Killblot. Kill boss. I'm the boys. Limey drift. Yo, yo.
Starting point is 02:08:29 Starring Clemsian honey butter. Patek is the stout and kill boss himself. What's your oldest most treasured video game merch? Bonus points. If it's especially shitty quality, but it's sentimental value stands above all else. My horrific Toys R Us Zell Legend of Zelda. Ocarina of Time Ganondorf. I have that from back in 1999 with the melted plastic prompted this question in the first place.
Starting point is 02:08:52 That's a good question. We are. I also have a really poor quality Zelda figure that I got from. Was it Nintendo World? No, it was. I think it was like Disney or something weird, really weird. It was an as a Zelda like figurine set with like Gannon, Link and the princess. And they were awful quality, but I just bought them because I'm like, Oh my God,
Starting point is 02:09:18 Zelda products out of place in this location. And so I remember grabbing that. But yeah, there's got to be some real, real stinkers in there. I mean, I remember collecting all of the Final Fantasy strategy guys when I was really younger because I was like, I'm going to get all the Final Fantasy games. I'm going to get all of the strategy guys. And I did. So I look at them now and there are like tea stains on them and everything classic.
Starting point is 02:09:40 I know. Are you serious? I'm serious. Oh, you fuck. We drink tea a lot, man. The stereotype is real. We drink tea a lot. Is it?
Starting point is 02:09:50 Pip. Is it? Pip. Apparently so much that like they have to fucking borrow power from like. It was a special that came out a million years ago with the fucking something, something Abbey, some TV show called something Abbey. Downton Abbey. Downton Abbey.
Starting point is 02:10:05 At the end of Downton Abbey, there's this massive fucking power surge on the grid because everyone turns their fucking tea on at once. They have to borrow power from France. I have no idea. Apparently that's that's a thing. That's really good. Yeah, everyone's cooking fucking like boiling tea. I love my country.
Starting point is 02:10:22 So yeah, it's like, I guess I don't know. I got like a bunch of ugly ass toys, I'd say I had the reboot season one collection of toys, obviously, and a bunch of them were terrible and full of like mistakes and lies that were not on the printed packaging. Yeah, I think, you know, things like that, I guess is where my brain goes. Honestly, I'm not big on game merch. So I kept almost nothing over the years. You have a shelf of like.
Starting point is 02:10:52 Yeah, but that's all stuff that I got in the like the last four years. Yeah, you and a kid. Yeah, as a kid, I never liked to keep video game figures. I just want to spend it on strategy guides or tips and tricks or EGM or something like that. I had a billion of those fucking magazines and I had to I had to give them away because I had like 200 pounds of fucking magazines just like just as many as I could get my hands on. I guess that counts then. Yeah, but I don't have them anymore.
Starting point is 02:11:19 Oh, I got rid of them like like 10 fucking years. Don't you answer the question. I did. Yeah, most strategy guys. Shit, you did. I did pack. Fuck, I remember you talked about the Final Fantasy strategy guy. The Final Fantasy one.
Starting point is 02:11:34 It just happened. Wow. All right. We got one coming in. You know that we call them limies because we got one coming in when they're like sailors coming in. From from obese pastry and he says they're Canadian destroyers. Love you guys, but I'm potentially going to get my ass blown out for my arse blown out for this. I reside in Scotland where I recently you want to do this with an accent because maybe you'd be
Starting point is 02:12:06 better off. How's your Scottish accent? Scottish action good? You're a boy. All right. All right. All right. Go ahead.
Starting point is 02:12:13 Give us to give it to do it in Scottish. Oh my goodness. Okay. It's been a while. Dear Canadian destroyers. Love you guys, but I'm potentially going to get my arse blown out for saying this. I reside in Scotland where I recently noticed that we got a Tim Hortons in the city of Glasgow last year, having heard about it from all of your videos, podcasts and streams.
Starting point is 02:12:36 I figured I'd give it a visit since I just like the most British Scottish accent. We can't tell. Usually speak pretty highly of the place. It was shit. The breakfast I had was unsatisfying, soggy and resembled something drunk. Something drunk me would have created on a cider binge. Later that night, my girlfriend tells me their coffee is awful and another friend informs me that the lunch menu is just as awful.
Starting point is 02:13:03 That's a bad accent. Have you ever gone somewhere after hearing so much about it only to be disappointed? Obese pastry. Yeah. And keep up the dog shit UK accent. Pat. Crikey. Sorry about that, Scottish people.
Starting point is 02:13:17 I'd really tried. So I think it's very clear that the Scottish are too drunk to cook Tim Hortons properly. I hear that like, you know, like pretty much going to England means just don't expect good food ever. Well, me and Pat were talking about this. We did, we was. That is, okay, obviously I live in England. The food's fucking fine, dude. That is just a stereotype.
Starting point is 02:13:39 Like honestly, God depends on where you go. Like, you know, if you, if you pick somewhere because we have like a food rating thing in England, it's like one, two, three, four, five stars, usually about how clean the restaurant is. But let's just say if it's five stars, which most of them are, the food's pretty good. Like we don't really put much spice in things, but they give you spice on the side if you want to, you know, so it's that kind of thing. So yeah, I think that that stereotype is a little bit like not so true, but I will say everything I've had in Canada so far has been really good.
Starting point is 02:14:10 Really dang tasty. What's the most overhyped like food? The most overhyped thing? Christ. I've been hyped up for so many foods and people go, oh, you're going to love this. And it's like, not only did I like, I think the most disappointing thing for me is like, that's fine. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:14:32 Just like, like, I'll eat that. A lot of seafood, honestly, is very like flavorless because you know, season it like meat. So like a calamari, for example, is just, it's all texture. There's no. And I don't like that texture. Yeah. It's just kind of like, you know, and I guess I think a lot of seafood that I was not allowed to touch earlier on in my life because of the Jesus, eventually when I did,
Starting point is 02:14:55 I was like, oh, that's not a big deal. But then some of it's like, oh, fuck, like shrimp and lobster. Oh, yeah. Fucking incredible. Shut up. It's great. But then, yeah, like, I had like a, I had a, like a, a bowl of like muscles the other day. And I was like, I've gone out to fancy restaurants.
Starting point is 02:15:13 You're like, oh, this is the prepared. And then you eat it and you're like, could have gone for Wendy's. I mean, like, ultimately, I got to take him to a Wendy's. He's never been to a Wendy's. We don't have Wendy's in England. That's not great. Shut the fuck up. So you've got to go to a Wendy's, man.
Starting point is 02:15:29 I got it before I go back. Just to say I have. Shit is so good. Paige is with me. She loves Wendy's too. It's, it's on the higher end of shit burgers. You know what I mean? I bet if Matt was here, he'd be like, yeah, fucking Wendy's.
Starting point is 02:15:42 Okay. But you're going to put that on the fucking menu next to the Delalos. I mean, no, that's what I'm saying. That's a whole other tier of burger. Yeah. And so like, like, you, like Wendy's is like, if, if you got to choose between that and like order garbage, like Burger King. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:15:56 But right now I got to, I feel like a fucking Wendy's, man. I want to go with fucking Wendy's right now. Not to mention, not to mention. Anytime you can go to Wendy's, why not go to like Harveys, for example. Harveys. Oh fuck Harveys. I'll take a Harveys. Harveys can suck my ass.
Starting point is 02:16:07 You don't like the girl. You don't like them. You don't like them. I fucking hate Harveys. You know what you need to, you know what the test is, honestly, is just take the patty on its own and bite into it and see what you're getting. I fuck, my sister worked at a fucking Harveys when she was a teenager. And my parents were like, hey, go bug your sister.
Starting point is 02:16:22 So you get a free burger. Like I want that fucking trash Harveys. That's so weird because it's a juicier meat burger than a lot of other shitty places. Fucking dog shit. How? What? What is that? It's terrible.
Starting point is 02:16:34 Like how does a larger juicier patty even work? Because it tastes like shit. That's so weird. It tastes like fucking shit in your mouth. You're so weird. Why are you so weird? Wait, what did I fucking say? Oh my god.
Starting point is 02:16:53 All right. All right. I don't like Harveys burgers is the point. It's a very, it's there. I mean, again, we're talking about shitty fast food. It's a it's a tier below real food. But they're eating a fucking Burger King than Harveys. That's that's fucking crazy talk.
Starting point is 02:17:13 Yeah. That is insane. Yeah, I know. Yeah, I know. Wow. Now granted, I will never eat a McDonald's hamburger so long as I fucking live. I had the one and I fucking threw up as a kid. It was the worst.
Starting point is 02:17:27 It's just it's just so weird because it's like when it comes to that list, generally Harvey, you know what I mean? Like it's they're all fucking shit fast food, but that's a better patty than the garbage. Call my mom and dad right now and ask them how I fucking freaked out when we had to go to Harveys as a kid. My dad really liked Harveys. My dad really liked Harveys too. I throw the biggest fucking shit fit every time we have to go to fucking Harveys.
Starting point is 02:17:51 Oh my god. Crazy. Crazy. That's crazy. Anyway, yeah, I'm nuts. We get it. How is that surprising or new? I want to go to Wendy's.
Starting point is 02:18:07 Do you have any fucking weird English burger chains that we don't know about? Oh my god. Let me think because we have McDonald's. We have Burger King. Yeah. KFC all that jazz. What's called KFC burgers? What the fuck?
Starting point is 02:18:21 We have like knockoff burger chains. I cannot. Oh yeah. Reckling. Yeah, just like, I don't know, like Burger Prince and shit like that. Oh, like Burger Prince. Yeah, like real dumb shit like that and like the alleys and everything like that. We just get really bad knockoffs, but we still have all the regular chains.
Starting point is 02:18:38 I mean, we recently got Taco Bell. Wow. Yeah, wow. Is that a new thing? I think. That's crazy. They don't have great deep beef anymore. I might be totally wrong.
Starting point is 02:18:46 We got like Taco Bell like 15 years ago. I've just never seen one, but whatever. Fucking crazy. No crap. We're going to go to Harveys. They flame grill their dog shit. Oh, it's going to be so good. It's, it's, but like, okay.
Starting point is 02:19:03 There's so many shit burgers below Harveys. It's crazy. I don't know what to tell you. I put a Harveys burger in my mouth. I want to retch. Wow. Like it is, it is. That's impressive.
Starting point is 02:19:14 Like it hits my tongue and I'm like, bad because like if you ever go grab like a Burger King burger, for example, right? You just bite in and you just taste like, it tastes like fake meat and smoke. And like smoke liquid. It's fucking bad. Right. It's tastes like nothing.
Starting point is 02:19:29 It's bad. You're right. You know? And then you do the same to like McDonald's patty. You do the same to like a lot of places and you just bite into their patty and you go, Oh, you're just, you're just putting a bunch of lettuce and salad and bread around nothing. That's correct. But like Wendy's, you get some, you get a square patty that's like beef.
Starting point is 02:19:45 No, you get some grief with some beef on it. You get some beef. Some grease with some beef on it. Yeah. Yeah. Right. So it's there, but, and then you get, but then, and then Harvey's as well. It's like, it's like a, it's a large square patty.
Starting point is 02:19:55 There's a beef. You can buy the beef. Let me ask you guys a question. It's gross. So I remember an argument that happened on the John Bob bomb cast like nine years ago, and it tangentially relates to this. No one would believe Jeff when he said that he could be given a bunch of fast food burgers blindfolded and be able to easily tell the difference between them.
Starting point is 02:20:12 I think that the idea that you would not be able to do that is ridiculous. I think it would be the easiest thing in the world. That's incredibly easy. Why is that even a discussion? I don't know. It's like, you can tell the difference between Coke and Pepsi like that. Yeah. The difference between.
Starting point is 02:20:26 That's a dumb, that's a dumb conversation. I know, right? That's stupid. I could do it in two seconds. Sure. The only one that would make it tough. It's if like, here's an in and out burger, which I've never had, you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:20:36 Yeah. Yeah. Totally. Totally. When you have the podcast, fuck Harvey's. No, we don't. Fucking garbage trash burgers. Shut the fuck you.
Starting point is 02:20:51 You're crazy. This is awakened something in me. I don't know where this is coming from. Yeah. Especially like, and how do you like, how do we in the middle of this conversation casually acknowledge how awful Burger King is? But I feel like we don't even need to talk about it. But, but, but, but, but, but there's where's the amor, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:21:06 Like the emotion that you have for how bad Harvey's is should be on Burger King because it's actually that bad. I think it's, I think it's because I was promised free burgers and it was at a place I hated. I think that's where the rage comes from. Or maybe it's because everyone tells you that makes no sense. And you're just fighting back against people so much that it's, it's firing up to that level. No, because all the intenseness came before you actually pushed back against it. All the crazy came out.
Starting point is 02:21:32 The instinct you said. I don't know. It just came out. A&W's is higher up on that scale too. Oh, absolutely. A&W is, is, is higher. They're the highest of the trash burger. Um, are they?
Starting point is 02:21:44 Of the flavorless trash burger. Of the flavorless trash burger. They are the top. Are they the top? They might be. Their sauces are decent. I feel like I might be forgetting one or two. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:21:52 But I'm, I'm, I, I, until I can think of them. They're, A&W's up there as well. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Hmm. Anyway. In and out is just the Lollos, by the way. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:04 That style. That's, if anyone ever. Small grease wax. If anyone ever tells you in and out this or that or wants to tell you guys, it's literally just. That's probably a pretty solid burger. It's what we have here. Yeah, I gotta, I gotta get down to the States and I gotta get to an In and Out and I gotta get to a White Castle.
Starting point is 02:22:16 You don't have to get to a White Castle. All right. Fuck White, what is that? East Coast? Oh, White Castle's nothing. Oh yeah? Oh yeah? It's nothing.
Starting point is 02:22:24 But Harold and Kumar though. It's a box of like 30 and they all are just like bread, ketchup and meat. Oh, they're just like, oh man. And the sliver of meat is like, take your nothing patty, but just cut it even smaller and put it into 30 of them. It's awful. Yummy. Shitty ass fucksliders piece of shit, Garb.
Starting point is 02:22:41 That, that shit is Garb. Oh no. Yeah. Yeah. But look at the deal. Yeah, White Castle. White Castle is fucking terrible. Fuck Garby's, fight White Castle.
Starting point is 02:22:50 Fuck you. Well, we don't got White Castle up here, so I can't get mad at them really. Oh, okay. I take that back down until I see it. So I'll go down to Burger Prince. The Burger Duke. The Burger Duke. I like Burger Duke.
Starting point is 02:23:02 The Baba Duke. Oh, no, it's the Burger Duke. Uh, and let's take a last one. Woo. Ba, ba, ba, ba. Ba, ba, ba. Uh, there's such a gleeful little shit goblin. You know that?
Starting point is 02:23:21 Oh, no. Does it remind you of like a gleeful little shit goblin? Ah, a lot of battle ends, a lot of battle ends. I'm having fun. It's only natural for me to be smiling. Oh, whoa. Oh, like last night on the stream? Oh, that was bad.
Starting point is 02:23:40 More of a, okay, dare a super best baby bladder boys. More of a request than a question. Let's hear it. Please watch Alien Covenant so you can talk about it on the podcast. Oh, bye. Yeah. It's been long enough. It's time to do it for the culture.
Starting point is 02:23:53 I don't like that movie. Did you watch it? Uh-huh. Then fucking you talk to Matt tomorrow about it. Cool. Fucking buy yourself. Oh, yeah, fun aesthetic. Ridley Scott has great visuals, but the story was kind of poopy.
Starting point is 02:24:09 Aliens dead, huh? Yeah, aliens dead. Okay, got it. Moving on. All right. What is going on? All right, what's going on? All right, so Kotor will continue.
Starting point is 02:24:19 Shadow of the Colossus is fucking done, but will continue because videos aren't fully up yet. What are you and Matt recording? When he's back, we'll do a thing. We'll do something. But yeah, what is going up on the channel right now? It's Shadow of the Colossus, Binary Domain. Kotor.
Starting point is 02:24:36 A Kotor. Man, I saw somebody going like, I've never seen a more tonal, more tonal dissonance than watching an episode of Binary Domain and then watching an episode of fucking Shadow of the Colossus right after it. Like, that's the world's apart. Future and tech and oldie.
Starting point is 02:24:53 No, but in terms of tone. In our commentary or the game? The game. Like the dumbest goofball shit possible with French robots versus a dialogue endless wasteland of sad. French robots. But is it stupid good or is it good? It's fucking good.
Starting point is 02:25:07 Okay. Like that's the thing I've been trying to say. Binary Domain. It's not stupid good. Binary Domain is really good. Yeah, okay. Like the shooting and the levels and the... But then the story is stupid good.
Starting point is 02:25:19 Okay. Because the voice acting is so fucking bad and it's so weird. Where I'm going to be recording some videos with clamps of some... A lot of it's garbage. Yeah. A lot of the videos that we decided to do one-offs of are fucking trash games.
Starting point is 02:25:36 Pretty much. So get ready for that. There might be more of that stuff coming in. I'm going to be streaming with clamps on me and Paige and his channel this week. Woolly versus... I mean, Woolly, you're a kill boss, man. To help me do the plug.
Starting point is 02:25:52 Wow. You tried. We are going to be... Yeah, there's... What should we call it? There's a... I'm going to start up in you little funny kind of stupid series. I sat me and the guy I was doing commentary with Reggie.
Starting point is 02:26:09 Even before we did the commentary, we sat down and recorded a little project together. So that's going to be going up pretty soon. Isn't it about fighting games? Sure is. But not just. So that's going to be coming up. I think at least one of those should be going up this week. Apparently the one-year anniversary of Woolly versus is coming up very shortly.
Starting point is 02:26:28 Yeah, as is the one year of abandoning Naruto. So that'll be happening. And then there's also, I believe... I'm not sure when it'll happen, but I don't mind letting people know that I did sit down with Liam and we did take a look at the fall too. Oh yeah? And that... You keep doing that fucking series?
Starting point is 02:26:52 Because that story was fucking cool, man. I saw the trailer for the second one. It looked really cool. So that should be arriving at some point in the future. Whenever he's ready. Just when you actually get around to... Whenever he's ready. To cut it.
Starting point is 02:27:07 Yeah, whatever. Yeah, okay. Yeah, he's throwing it up. So... Does it exist at this point? The footage does. Oh yeah, that's where it goes from there. As long as one of you guys get to actually cutting it up and all that shit.
Starting point is 02:27:18 So... Okay, cool. Stay tuned for that. No underwater this time. No underwater what? There was an underwater episode of the fall last time we did it. Oh, well don't speak too soon. You'd never know what could happen with the upload.
Starting point is 02:27:33 Maybe he's going to add an underwater to keep the effect. And what is coming up on Coffee with Clemps and your Clemps channel? Yeah, man. So when I get back from Canada, the new podcast of Coffee with Clemps is going up with me and my friend Medax. He's a Sonic and Kingdom Hearts speed runner. He also does amazing Kingdom Hearts gameplay analysis videos on his channel. That is M-I-E Dax.
Starting point is 02:28:04 Super, super cool guy. I'm clogging the hell out of him, man. He's cool. Um, other than that... Fucking Kingdom Hearts speed runner. Yeah, man. Other than that, the near and auto analysis part three should be coming out March. It's going to be a big one.
Starting point is 02:28:19 So I'm not sure if it's going to be split into four parts. After that, I'd like to try and do a Made in Abyss anime review. And then after that, potentially more Kingdom Hearts reviews. I want to do something on Dragon's Crown. What's up? I was talking to Clemps about this, Woolly. And he wants to do fucking Kingdom Hearts videos like he did for fucking near. I've already kind of been doing that though.
Starting point is 02:28:40 But he's going to just solve that problem. Okay. That was part of my picture. I think other people, I'm not going to... I think other people have done things. Because someone linked to like some video that's like three hours long. Yeah, that's the lecture. The lecture, yeah.
Starting point is 02:28:54 And I was like, whoa. Yeah, but that's not where Robert wants. That's a great one. That's the best guy ever. Okay, yeah. He's a really cool guy. Um, yeah, man. Other than that, just kind of more podcasts, more Japanese game reviews and all that.
Starting point is 02:29:08 And yeah, thank you so much for having me on as well. It's been really fun. Where would you see that shit? Ah, you would see that on youtube.com. Slash Mr. Clemps. That's a M.R. Clemps. Oh man. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:29:20 But I don't... What do I do if I had money to give you for a patronage? Well, if you were to go on to patreon.com. Slash Clemps. You can find my Patreon. Why isn't it Mr. Clemps? Because I'm a fool. There you go.
Starting point is 02:29:35 Um, yeah, geez, like incentives. You can pretty much listen to my podcast like a week earlier and stuff like that. I think for $1, you can get into my Discord. All that fun stuff. And yeah, just a lot of fun content coming your way, guys. Thank you so much for watching me and stuff, if you do. Don't cry. Well, thank you for being on our podcast.
Starting point is 02:29:55 That's okay. Thank you so much for inviting me. That's a podcast done. Part, part. I can't, I can't even... Oh, you're trying to... This is the sergeant, aren't you? Part, part, part.
Starting point is 02:30:03 The part, part, part, part. Yeah, we did it. We're good. Okay, bye, everybody. Gun to your head, Clemps. Gun to your fucking head. Oh, he's doing this shit. You're answering a question right now.
Starting point is 02:30:16 Okay. What's the best Boruto child? What pairing from Boruto's the best? Answer. Answer the fucking question, Clemps. I mean, that's a hint at a kid's pretty cute. I don't know, man. That's not acceptable.
Starting point is 02:30:29 Shit. Oh, it's a salad. He's a timid little bitchy boy. You can't just do this. What about that salad girl? I don't know. Salad girl? What's the...
Starting point is 02:30:37 Boo! Saladar. I don't know. Wait, is there a name set? What is that? Saladar or something like that. Goodbye, everybody. Bye, you later, guys.
Starting point is 02:30:44 Peace.

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