Castle Super Beast - SBFC 237: I'LL PRESSURE YOU ON WAKEUP GIRL (Feat. Plague of Gripes)

Episode Date: March 13, 2018

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, hello, la, la, la. Hello. Good morning. It's like our belly button talks, man. Something like that. Hello. Hello. Are you in there? Are you in my computer? I am in your computer. There you are. Looking at those folders. Why would you have those folders on the work computer? Looking at David's cage ball sacks. Not yet. We are not. You can just take a picture of their studio. Eventually. It's just one giant ball sack. And it's farting. It's a farting ball sack. It's a farting ball sack. That's important. That's important. I'm not sure of balls if they could choose would be like, you know, of all the other secondary functions. Well, it's like a dick butt scenario. You know, it's like, it's, it's, it's,
Starting point is 00:01:08 yeah, you had a limited amount of time to just, I need to draw something that matters. Yeah. Here's what I, here's the inner workings of my mind. Well, I mean, if you walk into the offices of any other studio with confidence, you will see some fun stuff on the walls for sure. I, you know, I know that he was here. Sure. Yeah. Um, and, and you know, good graphics. Well, we, I don't know if you guys have ever seen them, but one of the best like wallboards is was the skull girls one where they'd have these amazing like full on sketches of incredible mechanics and art and details because it's just an office full of like people that are fucking creative, awesome people. Yeah. So David Cage has a farting penis.
Starting point is 00:01:51 The skull girls boys are amazing. Get it right. Farting balls, farting balls. It was balls. I thought it was a penis that was farting. No, man. It was testicles. No, it was the balls farting out of. No, it was, no, it was a full penis, but the balls were farting because that's what, you know, it's like, do you fart? Does your ass fart? Your ass farts, but you fart too. No, it's your balls. Clearly. Maybe the balls are the ones that like force the ass. P is stored in the balls and now also flatulence. Where who started in P store stored in the balls started it. Where'd that come from? I don't know. Like, was that like, where did that come from originally? Yeah. Why am I saying it now? Because I feel like we gotta, why don't you ask who made the pyramids? Well,
Starting point is 00:02:32 it was fucking aliens or you can just like know your meme it. What does Joe Rogan say? About the pyramids? It says Joe Rogan's like this and it's like who invented the pyramids and I'm like, I'm not clicking that people with water. They sprinkled water on the ground and then they pushed it over them. It's like sea monkeys. I thought you were going to say they planted them. Yeah, me too. That's what I say. I planted the pyramid with people whose balls were full of pee. There you go. Is it is in my imagination or has the beginning of these podcasts got a lot more nonsensical? The one last time was about death? What was it about? Pet's extending your life for buffs, probably. Look, I mean, yes, but no, because I think it's
Starting point is 00:03:18 one of those things where it feels like it every time playing, but then you just go back to like the first one and it was always stupid. Like, need I remind you Steve Buscemi is Azora. I think that's like episode five. Need I remind you that I promised everybody that this was going to be terrible? Yeah, that's true. I promised. It's true. We all need a little bit of time to realize how bad our lives actually are. It takes a few minutes. 236 in now, right? It's so bad. It's all a bad podcast. They've said that really sad. Let it be fucking known. The first thing I declared, right? Oh, by the way, if you're unfamiliar with the smooth Kentucky voice you guys hear, that is our artist friend, Plague of Grace. Which you shouldn't be unfamiliar at this
Starting point is 00:04:02 point. Yeah, I know, but I'm just saying Kentucky. Also, no one is Eli since no one will call me by my proper name. Okay, one time I called you Eli and you freaked out. Yeah, sometimes you do that. Hey, when was this? This is like years ago, though. I called you Eli in the video and so, okay, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, someone freaked out. No, it's because you called me by my full name and I started getting a bunch of Facebook messages. Oh, yeah, that's a no, no. I don't think I've ever said McGillicuddy ever. You did just now. How dare you? Eli McGillicuddy. The problem. The problem. I love McGillicuddy. I can change my last name. Mr. Eli McDonald's is that there's a wild chasm between people like you who are like, yeah, my internet name is Plague.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Fucking call me Eli, you bitch. And everyone else who you just call by their internet name because that's their new name now, not their horrible parent name. Are we like friends of some nature? Yeah, yeah, okay. We've been friends for how long now? Like, five, six, seven years? Yeah. And you're still calling me Plague. Yeah. Like, the funny thing is, though, is that like, it just kind of depends from person to person in a way. Like, because you say that, right? And your suit, and that makes perfect sense to me. But at the same time, Takahata still in Takahata. Yeah, Cranky's Cranky. Clems is Clems forever. Those names have always just been what they are. Cranky told me his real name multiple times, and I fucking forgot it because who cares? Hey,
Starting point is 00:05:45 Cranky. It's Alex. And everyone's in a while. No, you actually are a super person. Like, every once in a while, someone will walk up and be like, you're Curtis, but for the most part. No, I call Takahata Kurt now. Yeah? Yeah. Okay, well, fair. But like, other like, yeah, Cranky also called Cranky online. Star is star, you know. Well, when I'm mad at her, I'll call her Ashley. Oh, so who's your fake name, Woolly? Yeah. Yeah. Well, we've been using it for years. What a joke of a name. What a weird name. You came up with that one. I'm glad no one figured out the real one. It's almost like I had a say in the matter. You did. Your baby soul should have tried harder. Speaking of- What's the cutoff point, though?
Starting point is 00:06:26 Yeah. We just keep going. Like, we met in 2012 or whatever the hell it was. What's the cutoff point where it's like, okay, even now, I think it's weird. I think the cutoff point is like, if we ever see you in person. That is the good, the normal cutoff point whenever you're referring people as their market name. Yeah. If I'm sitting across a table from you and then like, you're, then it's like, I don't know. I was having dinner with the family. Would you like another piece of chicken plague of gripes? I feel like I have met plague in the sense that you know, when you're walking down a dark alley and you feel like someone's looking at you. That's the type of feeling I get that place looking at me.
Starting point is 00:07:06 When I was hanging out with Clemps and Volta and Two Snacks, I called them Clemps and Volta and Two Snacks and so on and so forth. Yeah. Afterwards, I asked you by his real name, how was he doing? You're like, who? Who? What are you talking about? Is it Two Snacks? Oh, this is name? Yes. Oh, I forgot. You didn't forget. You just didn't care. No, it's different. It's different plague. My girl will constantly refer to V-Mills as James and I'll double take each time and be like, right little V-Mills, right? Because it's just like that. No, because it's just out of context. I'm like, there's not too many. There's another one, James, in my life mainly and he's been gone for a while.
Starting point is 00:07:55 You have to kind of clarify. That should make it simple, though. Listen, none of us have gone out there with our internet persona as D'Fart Naka. No. So everything is fine. Nobody beats Matt. They're like, hey, the switcher. Yeah, that has never happened. Yeah, but people do call me Matt McMussels because they see. Yeah, exactly. And that name has been around long enough now. And you chose that name. That is Bertie. That was the wrestling name. But it never went away. No, because it couldn't think of anything better. And then it became a brand. So now it's definitely attached.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Legally, no. I just picked my name as it's blue. YouTube lives are really weird. Your color is now blue and pink, too. YouTube lives are weird, Eli. Purple. Yeah, the entire, like, you got a really bad pat with the whole, especially now that the stream stuff is going on. That's not what I want to hear. I don't want to hear you have it really bad. You do. It's terrible. I feel really bad for you all the time. Please don't, hey. I feel, no, no, no, no, plague. I feel bad for you because if it's not an angry Dragon Ball rant, it's a fucking takedown notice of some kind.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Why are you going to bring it up like that? Because that's all I've been seeing is just. Look, we're all living clowns. Everyone's trying to shut down your shit. As opposed to dead clowns. It sucks. Yeah, that's true, too. None of us have real lives. We're not real people. Listen, man, if I want to play a video game in my pajamas and fawn over my cat for half an hour, that's not weird. Yeah, make me laugh. Funny, man. Yeah. Did it work? Were you laughing? No. Well, you're a failure as a human being because I didn't laugh for exactly 15 minutes.
Starting point is 00:09:35 How dare you present yourself as an actual human? Speaking of not funny, how was your week played? Hilarious. Oh, man. Which is to say not at all. No. Oh, man. Did you watch Dragon Ball? No, it wasn't on this week. No, I remember there was like a three-week whatever. That was a setup, except they didn't have a payoff, so it wasn't funny. I wonder what you learned, Matt. Well, the real question now is like, do you feel like vindicated and happy now that your branding has been shifted from Dark Souls to Dragon Ball? That is true.
Starting point is 00:10:11 That is where there's a problem. Like, this is something I've had to discuss with multiple people, whatever they're doing their own stuff. There's a term that people kind of push around sometimes called pigeon sold, where you do Dark Souls content. Yes. And that's what you do. That's all you get to do. Can I do? No! And the same thing happened, like this is another YouTube life thing. If you do this one thing, then that's what you're going to do for the rest of your life. Exactly. So, I've been sort of, it's sort of been good for me in a way because those two don't have anything to do with each other.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Except that they're both trash. What are you thinking of? Are you mentioning Gwen screaming and powering up to Super Ember Level 3? It's fighting increasingly tough opponents. Power Within. Power Within is definitely Centauri Amishit. It's Kaio Ken. Yeah, that is Kaio Ken. That's what that is. Yeah, the Dark Souls is Kaio Ken. But no, for a while early on, I think both of these guys were getting annoyed at me for like kind of implying that was happening with a survival horror games. No, not annoyed. I was like, damn. No, you're super right. We never disagreed with you. We were annoyed that you were right. I felt like unless something was done about
Starting point is 00:11:31 it, Matt and Pat were just going to be the survival horror guys and never do nothing that's not survival. By the way, the next LP after Dutch Rites is probably survival horror games. It probably is, but I was also afraid of that. But then there was enough big games that did well in terms of LPs and stuff that weren't survival horror. Wait. No, hold it. Wait, does deadly premonition count? Yes, it does. No, wait. Bully did well. Bully was okay. Shadow of the Colossus is not horror. But in the long term, like, hey, man, listen. When's the next WrestleMania? Long term recommendations are always the survival horror shit. Listen, man. The worry about that shit was very specific. When we started the channel in 2012, whatever, a long time ago. 2010,
Starting point is 00:12:22 maybe? Well, the first video ever was 2010 on the Donkey Kong thing from Machinima. But I mean, like the channel doing LPs. I think it was 2011. The worry there was not in 2011. The worry there was in 2012 when we were like, yeah, all right, two. Yeah, downpour. And then me and Matt are thinking, we're like, yeah, this and that. And we're like, shit, this friend, this, this fucking genre is dead. There's eternal darkness. Yeah, this boy, that was actually really great. I love that game. But like, survival horror is a dead fucking genre. So it's like, oh, man, there's a real hard cap on this shit. And luckily, a couple extra ones came out. Sure. In the meantime. But also, like, but like, I think if you, you do a solid like maybe year or two of one thing,
Starting point is 00:13:12 and you're that guy, yeah, that's it. Well, it's what you break out as primarily, right? Yeah. So like, if everyone has a breakout video, some kind that they used to establish a market for themselves, like they go over a demographic, you know, like if you had say, will they say let's let's back travel time and say that fighter pedia was the thing that blew up first. Sure. Right. If you started to play Dark Souls in the hood, it did. We're talking about places that know it didn't. We're talking about places that are more like pedia one in the hood. It's more like, it's more like one block within the hood. It went there. You went to do a fucking Dark Souls LP. Yeah, shit, their pants. The fuck is this? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:13:58 it'd be outrage. Now luckily, which is kind of what happens actually every time you tune on to a an FGC stream, where someone they're out playing where they're trying to do some other shit and people are like bra, get the fuck back in the lab. What are you doing and like flow, for example, will just stick with it and be like, shut up. I'm playing. I want to be the guy. Yeah, flow. Can't stop me. Flow is the best, though. But like a lot of a lot of people that yeah, broke out and are known as fighting game players want to stream other things and especially get pushed back in their box, especially if there's a fervor going on like, hey, we're going to be playing Smash today. You're not playing DBZ. Right. Why did I show up?
Starting point is 00:14:36 Right. Right. Right. And it's like, and it's and like, you know, sometimes it's aggressive. Sometimes it's a gentle like nudge, nudge back into the box. And you just got to fight back, you know, Maximilian didn't fucking now. He's doing anything he wants to do whatever I'm talking about. Yeah. Yeah, I know. I know. Depends. They never go away. And then again, the slow push back into the box of fighters is a thing that he has to deal with constantly. That is like super big problem, which what's that on YouTube? It's not quite as bad because the LP format is more you are the market, like your personality is the market and that can translate into pretty much whatever you want it to. Yes. But on Twitch, the gameplay is a little bit different and there's
Starting point is 00:15:20 less LP banter and more just the game. Playing a video game. Yeah. So the market becomes more so the the genre, the category that you're in rather than you as a person. Yeah. I kind of find like Twitch streams are more like, or a certain percentage more where people like, I want to check out this new game and see moment to moment gameplay. The rental replacement shit is high and see someone react to it for the first time. And like, okay, I saw what I want, but where's an LP is like, oh, I'm strapped in for this entire thing. And or it's a game I really like. But the but the other thing too is that like when something comes out that is like in that genre that they associate with you, it's like we want your take on it more than we want your take
Starting point is 00:16:01 on anything else, right? You have to find your overlap too. So that's where all that like stay in your lane shit comes from, you know, where it's like it's because the new blank is like, let's say we did not start for some reason, Detroit until like it made sense in the schedule, like it wasn't day one, it was we were in the middle of some other shit. And when that's done, it'll come in normally. Every moment that we're not on it is going to be a thing of like, what the fuck are you doing? Detroit's out, get on it. You know, it should be because it's like an interrupt your schedule to do this thing kind of feeling. And then you're like, be quiet, Pat, I need to listen to these comments telling me to play Detroit, I can't just listen to you screaming about
Starting point is 00:16:40 playing Detroit. You turned it around. Did you fucking see that goddamn travesty that Sony put out, which was the fucking Women's Day banner that had Kara in it from fucking Detroit? I sure didn't. The fucking sex robot that's gonna be like which one the fucking blonde one the one that one that works so that you don't have to like swore. That thing's gonna be tainted. Here's our new give up model. No, actually, no, the new give up model is that VR headset that feeds you. Oh, I don't like that. That's what? No, get away from me. There's a extendable prong touch. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that gives you a corn cube. Yeah, it gives you a food cube. And what is the market? Well, the market is really, really lonely because because it's it's the video you're staring at is of a girl
Starting point is 00:17:35 with chopsticks feeding it to you. Yeah, it's a schoolgirl in class feeding you. Yeah. And she's like, that's the only application paying attention. Yes, that is literally only application. Yeah, it's the feeling of getting a bento cube shared from your loved one, which you can never do in real life. Well, not you, you pathetic VR user. Even in real life, you're, let's be fair, your wife, it's not going to feed you. Yeah, put it in my face. No, my page is never going to fucking go, here you go, honey. Here's the food off my plate and take it and just take it because women steal food. Women steal food. Because yeah, well, that happens. It's a bold stance you're taking there, that happens sometimes. They don't ask, they just steal it. Well, because if you don't want to have
Starting point is 00:18:27 fries, but you want some fries, but you're not having fries, then you don't have fries. The mentality is that everything in your life is already there. You can just allowing you to use it. You can consume fries without having fries. I don't want to steal any of your food. I want my own food over here. And then, you know, fuck, that happened. Usually it's called sharing. There's not sharing when one person would have said no. Matt, you know for a fact that's not true, more than any of us. Why me more than anybody? Yeah, you're all the stealing coats and hoodies bandwagon. They steal food and they steal warm. That was like, but that was hopping on the bandwagon that was already there. Yeah. They steal a lot of food. I steal girl hoodies now. Oh yeah? Because they're
Starting point is 00:19:15 more warmer. Are they? Because they have to be. Think about it. I guess. I steal scrunchies. Well, all the time. I'm clearly not. And you then what with them? You put them on his balls. Wrap them around the balls and dick. So it won't fart. Gotta hold the pee back. And the fart. Holds all that gas-based pee. What else are you gonna do with scrunchies? I don't know. I was like, pee whenever it's in the balls is stored in gas form. Not many people know that. Matt, unlike us, woolly does have hair. If you store up more pee in the balls with your scrunchies, you get more powerful. Hey, do you think this is going to be a second flusher? Do you think pee exists in a gaseous state in the balls and then depending on when it gets released, that's when it's pee or gas?
Starting point is 00:19:58 It becomes liquid at the right at the moment. Well, it's like it requires air. No, no, no. What it is, it's like diehard three with the two chemicals that mix together. Oh, you mean, you mean rain of fire? I knew it. I knew it. You mean it's like when the dragons breathe fire, it's just too much. Yeah, yeah. It all comes together. The gas sack hits the water sack. And then you get your gases through a very specific organ that ignites the gas. Yes, there's a slight spray that when the gas goes through, the chemical reaction happens and Christian Bell dies. I think, no, urine is actually pee gas. I think science. The downfall of society is going to get tracked back to the phrase you're memeing right now. And and all these dank memes that we're
Starting point is 00:20:41 drowning. Yeah. Plague, have you ever thought of playing like a dragon ball? Like, you know, because you do the the Dark Souls run every so often, you ever thought about playing like a adventure based dragon ball game on your channel? No. That's my answer to that. There you go. Because you should play DBZ sagas. Are you being that guy? Which guy? She's gotta play this now. No, I just thought it would be fun. Like, you know, we're talking about branching out and stuff, and like, he does do the Dark Souls run often. I wanted you to say yes, so I could be that guy. Okay. Hey, play you. You should stream fucking DBZ fighters. No, no, because they know he doesn't really want to have a game. I never launched that game. But but sagas is an adventure action game.
Starting point is 00:21:25 No, I should not. I will stay far away from fighting games for the rest of my life. I appreciate that they exist. I bought the game. I installed it to make sure that it is there. I never launched it. Oh, you are doing that support. It's like me and Okami. Why Okami? Because I don't want to play it again. I never want to play it again. But I'll support it. I'll buy it every time. I'm buying the Switch version. Well, quite frankly, I'll, you know, like, I'm not gonna play it though. Like, it'll be nice if Okami ever, you know, whenever they stop making it, whenever it gets finished, whenever it turns finally, whatever the final whenever the final, you know, carrots are inserted into the build and it gets uploaded,
Starting point is 00:22:06 then eventually it's like, yeah, we can we can go back and revisit that. Can't wait for VR. It's pretty amazing. It's pretty amazing that Okami is still going, still being made as we speak. It's the total opposite of RE4 where you buy the new version and you're like, I'll play it for two seconds and then you beat it. I'll play it for like two hours, usually. Because that first part's real good. I have never played Okami. What? That's crazy. What system has it been on? And every end moved upwards. It's on PC now. Yeah. It's on PS4. Get on the PC, Play-Go. I think it's best on PS3. Wait, is it on PC? Yeah, man. It just came out. It's just, it's because it's an adventure game that requires persona hours. Yeah, it's one of the Zelda was
Starting point is 00:22:51 four Zeldas. It's really nuts with it. And you come out of there with your 90-hour save file going, what just happened? And also, it doesn't it doesn't help that it's a great game. It's so good. Yeah. But it ends like four times. And each time your expectations was more satisfying than the last, but then after the last biggest satisfaction, it goes on for another 20 hours. So it's not just the time on its own. It's the way you feel and then the fact that you hit the end and then you release. And then it goes, no, there's so much more. Basically, it's when you buy Okami, you're buying the Okami Trilogy HD collection. Yep. And I think everyone will agree that the quality goes Okami 2, Okami 1, Okami 3. Okay, well, it depends which final boss was your favorite. My favorite
Starting point is 00:23:40 final boss was the second one. Yeah, that's why Okami 2 is the best. Yeah, okay. That final dungeon is the best one too in Okami 2. Yeah, none of them are great, but that one's the best one. Because the first final boss is all right. That's pretty good. And then the last final boss is pretty sick too. But the second final boss is shit. Yeah. And it's amazing how many it's like, yeah, you got to, yeah, that's how the game ends. So it's Okami nutted, but you're still sucking. There you go. And it continues sucking to this day. It has not stopped. At some point, you're like, get off. Catcom's like a few more ports and it would have paid for its production. You go, go put up your PS2 disc. You'll see all the new content they put in. How'd they get it into your
Starting point is 00:24:26 house without like, like... It's wild, man. They snuck in and they replaced your discs, but like you've gotten you, it's still going, telling you. Yeah. You're coming close. Yeah. Yeah. But your thing, no, no, no Dragon Ball games ever. No, bad touch. That's something that would be bad for everyone, for bad health. Even like Dark Souls, the reason why I play through Dark Souls is because, hey, I like doing this. It's actually fun. But maybe you might like playing DBZ sagas. Or fighters. You should dive headlong into a thing you've never tried before. That's what I said. Just to see it. Just to let other people see it. You should take a thing that no one would predict that you'd never predict for yourself. Inversion. And do that whole new brand new thing.
Starting point is 00:25:09 Stop it. Okay, sorry. Brand new unpredictable experience. That would be bad. But I was going to say, even doing the Dark Souls LP, two parts ago, yes, I completely lost my mind. Oh no. I don't know if anyone linked you to that. To me, like, legitimately, just like laughing in tears because I had gotten so angry and frustrated. You're playing a fucked up bullshit version of that game. Well, that too. But it was like there were other events circling my life at the time that were just driving me crazy. And so the part after that was like a legitimate, like someone asked me a legitimate question of, is there something wrong with you? Like, as far as like psychological ago? So like, actually, yes, here is the follow like medical things that I was born
Starting point is 00:25:52 with. And here's my upbringing. And we had a nice LP part where it's like, okay, you know, this is how you grow up as a person and blah, blah, blah. Like, here's the things you want to avoid, invest, be a good person. And it was one of those things by land. And this was a Dark Souls LP. And I was fighting Artorias. And no, and sagas? No, no, I want to see you dive deep into like the mascot cart genre. I want to see you go in and not just the big ones, but like dig deep. Yeah, like, like Garfield racers, whatever. And the Flintstones, you know, Flintstones. Why did they keep making those? Because they're because they made money. They made money once. Someone made money somewhere. And then that was all you needed to do to prove to people that you
Starting point is 00:26:42 could take anybody and make money. Because the kids was the whisper of money. The kids are dumb and they like race cars like plague plays tack and the power of juju. No, like, yeah. No, this is free content. It's free. I'd rather fart out my balls forever. Yeah, when you want to fart your balls out, you know what would really be you know what I do is thinking more. Well, I've got like six crunches on them. They're gonna it's gonna heaven eventually. I would absolutely get behind a plague playing the fucking either start to a valley or going back to going back to animal crossing, not animal crossing, but Harvest Moon. Harvest Moon. Yes, plague on Harvest Moon. Probably a little bit of animal crossing. I want to see Harvest Moon is more. I would love to see
Starting point is 00:27:33 you like like straight. That's just more the meme of farming. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. But then you get to replace like the the thing with actual. See, you want to you want to leave your real life on the farm to go into your fantasy life on a different fantasy farm. Sometimes I fantasize about burying people down here and like in showing them this is what farming actually is. And then they get really disappointed because there's nothing cliche about it. Are you not are you not tilling work? Well, you might do that sometimes, but you don't do it with a fucking hoe. Well, I'll take that back. If you have a garden, you might do that. Well, we usually use an actual push tiller tiller and then that's it. See, this is fascinating already. We tricked, we tricked them
Starting point is 00:28:16 into talking. Yeah, you wanted this. Yeah, I'll tell you what, when I inevitably go up to Canada at some point, which will never happen. Yeah, then you guys get to make me LP whatever you want. Yeah. LP this creepy cat dating game. What was that fucking shit that I four star did and they put our heads on it? Nekopara. Didn't you do that? No, Nekopara. That's what Pat means. No, they didn't. We didn't do it. Just team four star put our heads on the creepy bits for some reason. What would you make me play? Slashy souls. DBZ Zagas. Yeah, man. Thirst race. You don't even want to play that. No, that's why I want you to. Fucking. It would be on for like 10 minutes and like, OK, that's the whole LP of Star Trek online. Oh, that VR thing. No, yeah. The MMO.
Starting point is 00:29:08 The VR thing is bridge commander Willie and don't worry, they patched the VR out of it now. So that it has an audience. Wow. So it's just the game now. Yeah. Yeah. OK. Well, anyway, just the game might be the worst thing ever for successful VR games. Look, it's a cool VR game. OK, that was a bad idea here. It's a game like VR chat. Yeah. Everyone hopped on VR chat. The moment they patched that show. Well, the moment I like, as I'm saying, it's like, it's like seeing how popular it was. I'm like, there's no way these people are all using VR. Hell no. There's zero chance. Yeah. But all the zaniest shit is from people who have VR because they can contort their bodies. I like
Starting point is 00:29:50 saying if they patched it out when they didn't, they literally patched in the ability to play it non VR. They never stripped the VR out of it. Yeah, it's way better. It's funny. Sure. Any other week? Play items. Wait, that was my week? Yeah. My week has been, I'm going to make you guys do something with me eventually. Yeah. You can never heal your bodies or get around to it. Hell yeah. I started on a new animation. I got scene one done today. Good for you, buddy. The drafting on those is what takes the most time because just trying to storyboard things takes forever. I don't know if you guys can understand this. Very familiar. I sure as fuck can't. But just having to sit there and think, all right,
Starting point is 00:30:36 what angle should this be drawn at? What's the timing? How does it coincide with audio? Whereas when she actually gets that done, you can just go. Like you're just basically tracing that point much faster, although it's more time intensive. So shitty process. Well, you could always, you could always just draw everything once and then just like new grounds, fucking puppet string it. Well, yeah, tweening is what I use. I've gotten the word, I don't even really tween anymore. I don't think I have for the past couple of things. Although you wouldn't know since that Kelly Berg's animation mysteriously vanished because someone copyright struck that one too. Like that, yeah. That one was the one that really bothered me
Starting point is 00:31:19 because that was super illegal. You definitely cannot do that. That's as free use as you can possibly get. It's a weird thing because obviously it's like when you're doing your like Dragon Ball things or like anything else for that matter. It's always nuts. They can just go fucking draconian on it. But like, yeah, when it's an animation, it's like that that's the ultimate. That's the system completely showing its failure. Yeah. But other than that, I played, I've been playing Warframe and Into the Breach. Yeah. Yeah, you told me about that. It is. Whenever you were doing, a lot of people were making blip past bad at the video game. It's another one of those things where I was like,
Starting point is 00:32:02 no, no, no. I did not understand many of the mechanics until that video, like the way turns work. Yeah, people will complain in the YouTube comments, but I was just sitting there going, well, of course, this is going to go this way, especially after you play it, and you're like, no, no, no, each turn you need to be sitting there looking at the screen for about a good 20 to 40 seconds before you really know what you're going to do. If you're just doing random, yeah, if you're just doing random inputs, you know, it's not going to go well. So I thought you did pretty well considering. Oh, that's very sweet. Yeah, you're a good boy, Pat. Yay. Okay. But that's a good game. I've been enjoying it. It's normal, actually,
Starting point is 00:32:41 the easy mode is a little bit too easy, but it feels like everything is placed exactly to where you can do something and have no RNG failures. Whereas the normal mode actually feels a bit more like you can do everything right, but you still might get screwed a little bit on RNG ever so often. That's the part that actually really frees me. You play on normal, right? Yeah. Yeah, it's not as bad as FTL was. And I have not played it on easy yet, because I don't want to get into the place where I get used to easy and the way easy works, and then I can never go back to normal with this kind of game. I can't imagine what the very hard mode is on that game. It's probably really rough. I haven't. I haven't. It was like you something about the time thing.
Starting point is 00:33:26 As far as I know, the only difference is the amount of spawns that the enemies have. So I think it's just that there might be one extra enemy at turn or something. So I haven't really played on much of FTL. I played it a couple times very briefly. It's a very frustrating game. Very frustrating. As this being from the same people that made that, is into the breach, it looks like a completely different genre. Yes. So what are the comparisons? The comparisons are from the makers of FTL. Mainly art. But it's not gameplay. No. Well, no. You can tell just by looking at the art. Because people are comparing gameplay. You said if you like FTL, for example, and I also said if you like Darkest Dungeon as well.
Starting point is 00:34:08 And then I look at this and I'm like, but this doesn't look like FTL at all. It's pacing and things like unlocks and the progression system and the way that things carry over. The overall feeling or intended like emotional state, I guess you would say of the game of, oh no. And being forced to confront failure no matter what and doing the best with like limited resources. Like all those things are similar to something like FTL or Darkest Dungeon. But like the actual gameplay instead in Darkest Dungeon, it's turn based RPG. Here it's strategy turn based RPG and FTL. I don't know what the fuck you would call it. Spaceship management. It says turn based strategy there. Right. No, I'm talking about FTL. I said this
Starting point is 00:34:54 be turn based strategy RPG. But like the like RNG elements and the like rogue like elements of like the run to get to the end like are similar between all those games. It has a YouTube demographic overlap. You die constantly and you make a little bit more progress each time. Yeah, and you start to learn better. Like there's a wild difference in this game between a bad run and a good run. And what makes me like this game a hell of a lot more than FTL is that more of that difference is in your control. Is there a descriptor for, I guess people use rogue like to mean that, but it's not accurate in my opinion. It is absolutely completely accurate. The original rogue game is very very different. What I'm trying to say is some games that are
Starting point is 00:35:49 not at all like rogue will only be similar in the sense that this game is meant to be start from scratch, do a run, die, start over. Right. And like that's the only similarity for example. And it's like is that enough to use that time? Well, I think that that has become the defining characteristic of rogue more than anything else about it. Like rogue was that God, I can't even fucking remember now. That was a was that a first person first person perspective. And it was like what you'd be going through going through the going through it and then the shit would come out exactly. Okay, because that that you have all the the type of the tables are really heard that everyone was like, Oh, it's like those old rogue likes who is like
Starting point is 00:36:30 battle rock, not battle rock, grim rock, grim rock. So yeah, I feel like that genre went on to become the eye of the it was a text, it was a textbook a based game that was completely incorrect. I'm thinking of something entirely different. Oh, it was text based. I'm completely wrong and confusing. It was then yeah, then because I'm thinking different because I'm thinking a fucking eye of the holder and dungeon hack and shit like that. The thing I most associate with rogue likes are things that are like rogue is the intense randomization that's associated with them to the point that you start up the game. There was another game called Magix, I think along this is like old DOS game that was sort of similar to this,
Starting point is 00:37:11 where you could start not in the starting location, but it generates a world around you, and you're just there. Yeah, it's completely like it like even something like rogue legacy, rogue legacy is incredibly controlled in comparison to the older, older rogue likes, where everything is new. And with the original ones, you could do something like spawn and then take one step forward. And the game is like, oh, you stepped on a trap, you're instantly dead. Just because it's that random. Yeah, rogue was frog fractions too. Yeah, okay, right. That's what that's what was going on there. What I would determine a rogue like as the genre personally would be your input is going to be
Starting point is 00:37:57 under your control, and the game's input or output or whatever towards you is going to be completely randomized, and you're just going to have to deal with it. There's no set level, there's no set. There's many cases where you just die, and there's nothing at all that you ever could have done about it. And again, when you go from one game to the other, because you think about let's say Crypt of the Necro Dancer, where that's like rhythm game you're going through and it's random and you start over every time, but then that and death trip to Canada are really different games. But you know what I mean, would you still apply the term to both? I feel like they still have the same spirit. I feel like the language could
Starting point is 00:38:35 probably be more better by ascribing something like- I would call that- I'd say call it like a death run game or something like that. It's an aspect of it, but the moment you call it rogue like that creates a genre that it's way too open ended. I would call that a rogue like the same way that I would call both Diablo and Borderlands loot games, even though they're wildly different like mechanically, because the actual core of the genre is kill thing, get shiny. But how you kill the thing is not wildly different. It comes down to a problem of trying to label everything. Or even like a destiny type game where- The main problem with and that's like a lot of, I would call that an MMO like more than a loot shooter. But it's also a first person shooter.
Starting point is 00:39:21 Right, so well there have been FPS MMOs like Planet Sight, but the problem is that in games there's two types of genres, whereas everything else there's only one type of genre in fucking, like in movies, Matt, how do you know it's a horror movie? You're scary. Yeah, bam, right? Why? Because it makes you feel afraid and they're scared- My favorite horror movies are ones that I'm never scared watching. Like what- like look at- look at fucking fear, right? What genre is that? It's a first person shooter. Why? Because the genre described it mechanically instead of thematically.
Starting point is 00:39:55 Well, you know, like I said, my question was just is there a word that is used and I guess the answer is no. Right now it's just roguelike and that's all there is to it. Genres and video games are terrible because they describe nearly exclusively the camera or the control method and not the actual tone. That's super true. That's super- yeah, it's like where's- The term RPG doesn't mean anything anymore. No, RPG's completely pointless now.
Starting point is 00:40:16 RPG, uh, fuck. Role-playing game. I think Pay Arcade had a really good- Where do you not replay a role? A million times, a year ago or a news post, it was like RPG has been changed from a genre into a sauce. It's a sauce that you pour on other genres. Put the RPG sauce on this shooter. Put the RPG sauce on this racing game.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Action-adventure. What does that mean? He's nothing! What does that mean? RE4 is labeled an action-adventure. Someone break down like, yeah, you know, it's definitely like- It's not that the words- it's not that we don't have them. It's just that they don't really describe anything.
Starting point is 00:40:52 What does all this user describe as an action-adventure? It is. But there's bits of RPG. Some people will swear up and down that it's an RPG because you gain stats. But someone who hasn't been playing video games their whole life will come into that lacking information. Yeah. And be like, I don't- you know what I mean? Video games genres are god awful.
Starting point is 00:41:10 They're not- that's not- yeah, that's- that is a- that is a shitty part of it. It used to be pretty simple and straightforward, but then like, you know- What is Deus Ex? Your mic is over here. No, I know, but I'm eating- Oh, okay. What- what is Deus Ex, the original? What type of game is that?
Starting point is 00:41:23 A dead franchise. No. No, but really, what genre is that? It was First Person. No, it was an adventure game. No, it was an RPG. It was a First Person, but it had those elements sewn into it. What is Mist?
Starting point is 00:41:38 FPA. It's a First Person shooter. First Person Adventure, right? A Metroid Prime. Let me- let me try one that's- that's much tougher. Is- is Fallout for a shooter or an RPG? Neither. Yeah, it's bad at both.
Starting point is 00:41:55 Yeah. Suck it. Anyway. The Into the Breach is a good game. It's a great game. Yeah, yeah. I mean- Warframe is also a really good game.
Starting point is 00:42:03 And- and the more you go into older genres, like, you definitely- it's like, scrape up against the walls of like, what is the main basic thing you're doing here? And then as time goes on, that becomes dumb. Like, point and click? Yeah. Right? That became very stupid.
Starting point is 00:42:19 Like, what- what do you mean point and click? Show me a video of you doing it, and if I can sort of grasp what's going on, then I'll just say, okay. You know what else is a point and click? Fucking StarCraft. Yeah. It's like, like, that's so bad.
Starting point is 00:42:32 Hey, let me ask you, play. You- you bounced off, but we- like, I was playing Destiny 2 with Plague and some other friends. Oh yeah, that was a big bounce. And then Destiny 2, there was one week where Plague and I played it, and everyone else had quit, and then the next week Plague and I just bounced off into space away, and Plague landed in the reeds amongst the Warframes, and I have not actually spoken to you
Starting point is 00:42:58 since you started playing Warframe, and on my own- We've spoken, but not about that. Yeah, but oh yeah. But, and also my experience with Warframe is at launch on the PlayStation 4. What is- I- I do have a story about this, and that story is- Here's just a Warframe. DE Digital Extremes.
Starting point is 00:43:23 They're a good developer. I think they're based in Canada even. I hear quite good things. Makers of Dark Sector. Which was originally Warframe. Yeah, because it has a lot of the same armor design. I didn't know that. Yeah, that it's transitioned all the content
Starting point is 00:43:36 into the original version of Warframe. Well, you remember that very first 360 game, the first one that was ever shown and was called Dark Sector? I remember- I remember hearing about Dark Sector. That was actually Warframe. I didn't know that. Warframe. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:43:48 That Warframe was the first 360 game. Is Warframe too human? It's like, what happened? Is it Tinosaur Planet? What is this? You would- it is such an unrecognizable thing. This is not what I- Compared to what it used to be.
Starting point is 00:44:02 I play- I- I ran down a corridor. I played two hours of it and I also ran down a corridor. And I was a survivor. But Jim Sterling has also been, like he got into it too recently, and he's been talking about it. And even he was surprised and said the same thing, that DE, they're good developers. And it's a free-play game, but its economic model is-
Starting point is 00:44:22 it's very good, actually. There's like one or two things that are kind of suspicious in their shop. Well, it's fucking free, isn't it? It is. And then there's some- And then you buy, like, extras, but you can play the whole thing for free.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Yeah. Yeah. And trying to- like, trying to explain this to someone that has not played it is one of the most confusing things ever. And this is my point. DE is a great developer. They're very well-intentioned. But they screw up things
Starting point is 00:44:48 that they don't have any business screwing up. Because while their intentions are good, it's just kind of a mess. They're just kind of going off the seat of their pants. They're just crazy. So if you start the game for the first time, this happens all the time. Players don't know what's going on.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Like, what am I supposed to even be doing? What is happening around me? What is that thing? Why are these weird angel creatures descending from the sky? So let me ask- Am I a demon, man? So I'm going to assume what you're describing is this game has had years and years and years of updates.
Starting point is 00:45:22 Three or four years now. And when you start the game- That too. You start the game in its completely up-to-date added form that has absolutely no follow-up on the- Like, it's like ever- The game is currently in a state of like, you played Warframe from day one, right?
Starting point is 00:45:39 It's- no, no. It's not that the game started. It's not like the game was started as something else and then over a huge amount of updates has become something else. It's that the game started as just, all right, here's our system. Like, you're a guy with a gun.
Starting point is 00:45:54 Yeah. There's no story. There's just this system. You're on a game engine. Go. And over time, they've been like, okay, we'll make up a story. We'll try to glue everything together.
Starting point is 00:46:04 So- I thought- Here's the- Sorry, one second. Willie was one of the characters. And I thought he was going to say, excuse me, did anyone notify me that you seem to only play as devil triggers in this game?
Starting point is 00:46:16 Yeah, no, I'm aware. Because some of the designs are very- Believe me, everyone made me very aware. Okay, Warframe has a very distinct style. Avara's ass is amazing. All right. Anyways. Well, it's nice to hear as well that it's good
Starting point is 00:46:34 and not just good for a free game, you know? It is, but here's my story. One day, I was doing something called Grinding Criotic. It's a resource that you can get and print- Like, there's one of the great things that Warframe does. Late game players can go to very early game, like, tutorial planets and still get stuff out of it. Because it drops, like, relics,
Starting point is 00:46:58 which are sort of like loot boxes, except you'd never pay for them. You just use another game mode to unlock them and you get a random, like, prime item out of it, which is the best weapon in the game or the best Warframe of the game and things like that. So, I was going back to Venus,
Starting point is 00:47:13 which is a starter area, and I was just doing Criotic Farm. And if you... The longer that you stay in these endless mission types, the higher the enemy level gets. So, they start at, like, level 10 or whatever, and I was fighting level, like, 60 or 70 enemies, which is like ludicrous high for this sort of game.
Starting point is 00:47:32 And I didn't notice that there were two MR level zero players with me the entire time. And MR zero is just, like, level zero. It's just completely new players. So, one of the players eventually left after I was like, all right, do you guys want to leave? And one of them just left, and the other one's like, how do I make the mission end?
Starting point is 00:47:51 And that's when I noticed it was like, oh, shit, he's a new player. He's totally new, and he's been fighting these level 60 dudes that I've been spawning the whole time. Like, I caused that problem for him. Just baffled because he's like, is this the game? Is this what I'm supposed to do?
Starting point is 00:48:07 I started trying to explain how things worked. Like, you wanted to know, why do you look so cool? And it's like, well, this is a prime warframe that has a premium skin on it. And then I started thinking, how do I explain all these things to him? And warframe's just a game like that, where you start trying to explain things
Starting point is 00:48:25 like the relic system and the prime system, and why you would be farming things, and that when you're first starting out, the only thing you really need to be doing is going after Junction Unlocks to get to new planets. Monster Hunter. No, it sounds like he's lying.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Warframe is worse by far. Walking into an impenetrable wall of data. I should mention, he actually just said that Monster Hunter is actually worse by far than Monster Hunter. Okay. Monster Hunter has many intricacies that are overly complicated.
Starting point is 00:48:58 Warframe, its core premise is unapproachable. Like, you start the game up, and already, you're like in a whirlwind of magic and pixies, but you just don't know who you even are. But is that, but is your primary interest suggest supposed to be I'm enjoying being cool guy, looking guy? Like, is that like kind of like,
Starting point is 00:49:24 your prime interest is that, therefore you should be fine just walking around being cool, and then you'll figure out the rest later? Because the thing in Warframe is progress is, you don't level up. Like, you never level up. You, like you can grind a mastery rank on individual things like weapons and warframes.
Starting point is 00:49:45 And that does level those up, but your primary level mastery rank never goes up unless you get things to 30. And then once you do that, you can keep going up as long as you keep rotating through new weapons. And in order to rotate through new weapons, you have to go to the market.
Starting point is 00:49:59 And when people look at the market, they say, oh, this is a micro transaction store, because they go in and they find that they can't buy anything without using platinum. So is it primarily buying shit, earning shit, or finding shit? No, that's the thing. Like, you can do everything.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Everything in Warframe can be free. But the market, which looks like a micro transaction store, is actually, is actually like your level up sort of area, where you can like buy blueprints for weapons and then take them to your foundry and then build those. What is this thing? It's a fucking, fucking mess. As somebody who dived into Monster Hunter back
Starting point is 00:50:34 when it was fucked up, the one thing that Plague has gotten me with on this one, I'm fucking putting my head in my hands here, is that he has not repeated one term. It has a lot of terms. I've not even mentioned 5% of them. Sure, but what I mean is, is that when you go through these mechanics,
Starting point is 00:50:52 usually you expect some kind of double back and see that's why it affects your affinity. It's like, no, you have every single new statement has had a completely new system. Yeah, I just imagine someone's like, oh, so you take your blueprint and use it to grind affinity for the relic system, and then the other guy's like, no, no, oh, and it's that.
Starting point is 00:51:12 But once you actually, once you actually get there, everything does make sense. You fucking get off on that shit. I super get off on that shit. Yeah, that's it. You'll get off on this 10-0. Because if you, you eventually turn into a space warlock boy that's living inside of a pod that controls things via magic,
Starting point is 00:51:33 space magic, using the help of a robot lady from the future. It's, ah, it's bad. I gotta say Warframe 2, sorry, Warframe 2 Christ, probably got the biggest boost ever from Destiny 2's falling. Yes, that's the reason why they were like, okay, we need to stop releasing new content all the time and actually work on our core systems. Because that's kind of what they've been getting in trouble with recently.
Starting point is 00:51:58 At some point, the first version of this thing would have been the thing that you could just start and then learn to understand. No, no, I played it the day it came out on fucking PS4. And it still didn't make any sense. And it was incomprehensible. It was hard to comprehend. Wow.
Starting point is 00:52:15 That is the number one complaint from new players. But once you actually understand it, everything falls into place and you're like, well, of course this works its way. It's one of those games. But the end of my story was that the guy, the young guy that I was talking to, and trying to teach him this is how all the things work.
Starting point is 00:52:35 Eventually, after like, at first he was like, I don't know, I should go back to League of Legends. And I was like, no, don't do that, please. So I taught him all these systems. Take them under your wing. I know the game doesn't explain these things. And I know this looks like micro transactions. It's not.
Starting point is 00:52:49 Once I finally got him to that point, he's still playing now. And he's like mastery level like eight or something. And he's almost done with the entire Star System map. And he says, this is one of the best games I've ever gotten into. So it's that initial hurdle. Well, I was actually thinking about that.
Starting point is 00:53:08 It's like, maybe I should do this with more new people. Just like pick them up. And the more that I've had to talk to that guy, the more I realized that's a bad idea. Because he's like a second. He's like a child to me now. Because all my time revolves around trying to help him. So in what world are you like playing a fighting game going,
Starting point is 00:53:30 now I get it? Look, I understand a lot about that. Experience in that parallel. The problem is that Plague understands the concept. She just doesn't like the concept. I know, I know. At a certain point you go, that's fine and you move on. You know, that's it.
Starting point is 00:53:44 I was just pulling a parallel there. But yeah, it's one thing I'm I guess curious about because I mean, I can definitely see how you said like the destiny, like a carryover feels a little bit real, especially in like the way you like, I have my cool armor, I'm walking around feeling like a badass. Is there PVP in this? There technically is.
Starting point is 00:54:09 No one really does it though. OK, OK. Thankfully, they organize the system so that the only thing that you can really get from it that applies to PvE are there's a few like skins for like weapons and things that you can get. But that's pretty much it. Which is a good decision, believe me.
Starting point is 00:54:28 Warframe is a game that is profoundly unbalanced. Like I have a ribbon that is I can use with something called a Gorgon, which used to be a horrible weapon. But it is so strong that I could just stand in place and just wipe out everything in front of me in the space of like half a second. As far as the normal game content goes. And meanwhile, there are people standing next to me
Starting point is 00:54:52 that are like MR5. Like you can see like how much damage you've dealt. Like bring up your tab and it'll show like, I've done 95% damage and everyone else has done like 1%. Like it's just completely unbalanced that way. The level of like aggressiveness people display at being into this is reflective of how deep there is to go. I streamed Destiny 2 a couple of times
Starting point is 00:55:17 and every time I did like the number one phrase repeated in chat was all camps fucking just play Warframe. Right, right. Yeah. So no, that makes sense. Like the level of complexity and unapproachableness and ridiculousness of all this is it makes sense why people are as like fervor as they are.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Probably because there's so much to it. It's almost not even that. Destiny's community is just toxic and childish. Oh man, Destiny has the worst community of I've ever. Warframe's community are some of the nicest people you will ever meet in your entire life. It's really strange. You think it being a free to play game.
Starting point is 00:56:03 You think being a free to play game, it would just be like a cesspool, right? Because that's usually what free to play games are. No, like everyone in Warframe is like the nicest person for some reason. It's really strange. Maybe it's because it's a Canadian studio. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:56:17 That's rubbing off. There's secret like Canada stuff in there. It's true. It's true. Look, Willie, you can use a sword. I'm seeing a sword. Look at this. And then and then he's got a big backpack.
Starting point is 00:56:31 Yeah, it's a free to play game with where all the characters are techno virtual. He was vanquishing. He was just vanquishing a little bit. Or like Sam's too. Yeah, look at that. Look at that vanquish right there. Yeah, we're looking at footage of the Warframe Beginner's Guide 2018.
Starting point is 00:56:46 And I'd love to because that's the art year version of the Beginner's Guide. I'm just like the fact that they had to put a year on that already is like, oh. No, you have to do it twice a year. I've found those. Like I have to go looking up for like how does this weapon work? And I'll find two videos from the same person's like update,
Starting point is 00:57:04 update to the update because everything's constantly changing and everything's getting really complicated all the time. I have one other question. Is there a point where you can say I've done it? Do people ever? You can say is it or is it actually like what the fuck it keeps going? Kind of fucking space combat. Yeah, there is.
Starting point is 00:57:25 There's a normal combat, which is sort of like corridor shooting. And then there is Planes of Eidolon, which is going to be another plane's content released on Venus. And that's an open world game. What's the end game like? The end game is cosmetics. It's visuals. But the end game is like try to collect all the prime stuff.
Starting point is 00:57:52 Try to make yourself the prettiest, sexiest fucking giant ass tovara you ever learned. Yes, yes. That's true end game? Yeah, just like every persistent game. Fashion frame. Like there's yeah, there's like ribbons that you can get that will make weapons that were already ludicrously overpowered,
Starting point is 00:58:08 even more overpowered. There's fashion right there. It's just kind of endless in that respect. So there's people like Brozyme, I think is how you pronounce his name. He's a YouTuber. He knows who you guys are. He actually might be listening to this.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Oh my god. But I wanted to pull that game in regards to this since he does a lot of good like introduction stuff. But I was watching one of his streams one day and he said that basically he was completely done with the game. But it's become sort of a job for him. So he stuck with it for that reason. But he still enjoys it.
Starting point is 00:58:40 It's not one of those things. It's it's a very strange game. Like if someone gets started on it and goes, this is not for me, I will not blame you. Well, the single the single most interesting thing that I saw about the game had nothing to do with the game itself. Had to do with digital extremes in which they put out some. Oh, God, let me try and remember this because I know I'm super wrong.
Starting point is 00:59:01 They retire content in this game. Sort of. And occasionally we'll bring it back like out of the Disney vault. Essentially, those are those are the prime vault items. The best things in the game. Shooting thing is really cool. There's a lot of awesome things in this game. You're like red.
Starting point is 00:59:19 So they brought the prime vault system back. But the way that it rolled out, people were not happy with. So they just had a Twitch stream where they're like, how do you guys want us to change it? Here are some fun ways that we're willing to change it. You're talking specifically about the thing that Jim Sterling was talking. Yes, I am. Yes, he was talking about the fact that there are prime access packs
Starting point is 00:59:41 where you can buy unique cosmetic items that are specifically tied to the release of specific for war frames. But you unless they release those again, you can't get those cosmetic items because they're tied to that pack. And if you already own the war frame or whatever, like the major thing that you would normally want, you can't get the other things independently. And DE and true fashion for themselves were like, oh,
Starting point is 01:00:05 like it wasn't malicious. They were just like, oh, yeah, people do that. That's the thing that we do. And so they just had a stream. We were like, all right, what do you guys want to do with this? How much money do you want to pay for this? Like it was a very upfront, surprisingly, like earnest reply for them. That's what Jim Sterling was so surprised at.
Starting point is 01:00:23 But the thing you're talking about, the prime vaults. It's fucking, this screenshot that just popped up with a thing we're watching that just had red arrows pointing at nonsense. A completely different style of character. But the, sorry, the prime vault, the prime things are the best things in the game. They have a rotation of a specific amount of them that are available during any one time that are found in relic packs that you unlock via another game mode, but they retire them for a specific amount of time.
Starting point is 01:00:53 And then like a few years later, they re-release them for like six months or whatever. Okay. Yeah, that sounds like costume packs and anything else. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. But you can, you can trade platinum with other players that have already, they still have the blueprints to sitting around and they will sell you the blueprints. So that's what the economy revolves around in that game. It's platinum. That planet selection screen is pretty cool.
Starting point is 01:01:19 Jesus Christ. Is there a story now? Yes. You're just, you're a guy, you're kind of like in this Zen state and the planets are surrounding your character. Revolving around you. And then you're zooming in on each one and you're kind of just analyzing where to go on each planet and it looks fucking good.
Starting point is 01:01:35 As somebody who came from Destiny, the zoom in on the planet map to see that each planet has like 10 different areas is like to pick. Shocking. Yeah. And they are all used by end game players as well as new game players. Wow. This is really strange. That's a strong map design right there.
Starting point is 01:01:52 Ah, shit, what was I going to say? You got us on the ropes playing fucking. Jim Stirling was talking about how that was a really good response that DE had. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, sell the car. Drive it off the line. I've already sold the fucking car.
Starting point is 01:02:09 You can have the car. You can have it for free. Fuck your dick. Yeah. But yeah, it's a good game. All right. Oh, a Fraegor Blueprint. That's a good thing.
Starting point is 01:02:18 Avoid relic segment. Holy shit. And most importantly, you can always go back and sink more time in when you're just not even thinking, basically. You can just turn it on and brainlessly play for a while, it seems. Hey, Eli, I have a question that Mothman and particularly, I think, Googly are going to shoot their dicks off because they hate this. There is a console version of this game, yeah?
Starting point is 01:02:43 Yeah. If you have an option, maybe you wouldn't want to do that. No, no, no. I know. If you would want to go on any version, you'd want to go. Yeah, it's one of those games where it's designed for PC. You can start on console and be like, oh, this is a fun game. And then you play it like one day over at a friend's house on PC.
Starting point is 01:03:01 You can't go back to console. It's an overwatch situation. The reason I ask is, is there controller support on the PC version? I don't know that specifically. Okay. It would both surprise me to learn that it doesn't, and it would surprise me to learn that it does. That was a PS4 prompt right there. Can you scroll down a bit?
Starting point is 01:03:20 Yeah, no, no. I clicked on an official PlayStation. I was looking at a video from PlayStation. No, you were. This is a PlayStation video that we're looking at here. I looked it up and yes, there is controller support on the PC version. Sure did. You asked about the story.
Starting point is 01:03:38 I want to make sure that I was, this is the thing I was trying to think of. But the story basically is just that you wake up inside this warframe thing. Because some Grenier are trying to pull you out and use you for their own purposes. And the Space Lady contacts you and is like, hey, you need to get to me. And of course, you're like, what? What the fuck is going on? So you just start killing things. Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:01 And you're a protoform. Both factions want you bad. Yeah, of course, of course, of course. The universe is actually set in post-now when humans had become so advanced and decadent that they're like stealing children to transfer their minds into their bodies to live forever. Oh, like the fucking Eldar, got it. Yeah, they're sending giant space machines that are sentient, sapient creatures out in the space to colonize things.
Starting point is 01:04:31 And they're coming back wanting to murder humanity for some reason. And this is like post-catechalismic war that ruins the whole solar system. So everything that looks like it's an alien in this world is actually human or used to be. With the whole console PC thing, is there really a problem if this is a PvE game? So what would the issues be with playing it with a controller? Probably turn speed. It's main... Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:04:59 Oh, how do I explain this? You know what I mean? Like, when you're playing against other people, you need a maximum. Okay, but fully, you need the fast mouse aiming to do your wall jumps or whatever. Against the computer. It's got to be a lot less important. It's got to be. Even though it's a corridor shooter and Warframe, you're going to be doing a lot of running.
Starting point is 01:05:22 Because each thing that you do is kind of meant to last at least 10 minutes. Like, it's like a whatever you want to... It's like a video game thing of we play your retention. That's what I'm thinking of. It's where everything is designed for that time period. So you're going to spend a lot of time ignoring... Like eventually, like whenever you first start out, you're going to be killing every single thing that you see and trying to clear areas.
Starting point is 01:05:44 Yeah. But anybody is spawned indefinitely and you don't really get much for killing things in general, without... And it lets us very specific area. So eventually, you get to where you're like, we're just going to run through the area, get to our objective and get out as fast as possible. So a lot of the game is spent doing a very specific motion of sprint forward, slide, jump, which gets you more distance,
Starting point is 01:06:06 then slide again before you land and just doing that over and over and over again and sort of park whoring through the entire level. That's what we're seeing. So imagine trying to do that on a controller. Sounds a lot easier to do on controller. If it's set up like I have it, where you're like your crouch is set to a mouse button or something, it becomes very easy.
Starting point is 01:06:23 If X's jump and circle is crouched, then that doesn't sound very hard at all. I think you have to hit one of the bumpers and there's a very... Is there more particular timing or something on controller? I don't know, but a lot of it... When I played it on PS4 as a controller, remember it controlling okay, but you can see in the footage, but your characters are very stiff and their torso is basically move a lot to slide. It could be easier on controller.
Starting point is 01:06:49 It could be. It's the kind of thing that I've run into in a lot of games, particularly games with heavy movement and shooting things like Titanfall. Titanfall is the one that I'm thinking of, right? Aiming with a mouse, obviously way better, right? Moving your character with a keyboard didn't feel as good as with the controller, right? And welcome to your nightmare. No, there's a reason why you gravitated toward that so strongly.
Starting point is 01:07:16 I want best aiming with optimal movement, yeah. So I'm interested to see... I'm probably going to give this a try. Yeah, you shouldn't. You're listening to the sound of my voice to get into war. You're making the same noises you make whenever you fucking get in. Speaking of getting in, let's get into our sponsors, shall we? Yeah, that's right.
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Starting point is 01:11:09 Thank you. Thanks, Matt. Thank you. Excellent. We're getting better at them. What are we going to do on the bed, Woolly? Pump. Sleep.
Starting point is 01:11:16 Well, it's the part where you talked about taking out the package and it expanding. It was like, it was like, I wanted to yell out like, oh, like a dick. I know something about that. But like. It concerns my penis. But then I didn't because that would have been rude. You still kind of did it. Yeah, but it's later now.
Starting point is 01:11:32 It's true. You have to cut your dick out of your pants. It's packed in there. Be careful not to dig too deep. Don't want to pop your balls. All that gas in them. All the gas and pee will come out. Matt, what did you do this week, Matt?
Starting point is 01:11:45 Didn't do too much. Played a game or two, but I didn't want to talk about my trip to New York very, very briefly because I fucking straight up forgot last time because I went to the New York Toy Fair. Did you get a big Godzilla toy? I did not because it is not a thing. It's not a place at all that you can buy things at all. But I did wind up getting a Godzilla.
Starting point is 01:12:12 An image anime, which was a couple of blocks away. But yeah, it was invited. Oh, yeah, I've been there. Yeah. I was invited by a friend there. And it's not for the public to go in. It's action, actual trade show where tradesmen go, brah, brah, brah, brah, brah. Here's my new toy.
Starting point is 01:12:29 Here's my new toy. It will kill less children than before. But I was really. So they talk over there, Matt. Shouldn't be fun of it. That's how businessmen talk in the toy industry. But I was kind of disappointed because I'd say like 20% was what me and Woolly would be like. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:46 And the other 80% is like children's toys and like backyard and like jungle gyms and things. And I'm like, oh, it's a broader trade show than you expected. Yeah. But it was cool. Even though it's toy fair. It's like, no, it's more like under certain age. Time waster fair. This is just anything, basically.
Starting point is 01:13:09 And like 20% is less deadly, but. This toy fair is pedestrian. Did it make up by seeing Vile in his ride armor? Yes. Oh, yeah. So that was on display. And I want that real bad. You mean Vava?
Starting point is 01:13:27 Vava? What do you mean, Vava? You on drugs? Never mind. Sorry. It's OK. Is that the designation of the ride armor? No, it's in Japanese.
Starting point is 01:13:38 His name is Vava. I wouldn't know. Yeah. Vile's so much cooler. But his name is Vava because Vava sounds the same as Baba. And Baba, Boba, Boba Fett, his helmet. His helmet. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:50 That's like three or four steps too far. Japanese. You know Rockman, don't you? I know Rockman. It's like, why is that so extreme? Yeah. Now, when you put it in that context. Because that's not that weird.
Starting point is 01:14:03 Well, anyway. Because that's zero steps. It's OK. It's all right. We've explained it. Now everybody knows. But it was still fun walking around and seeing stuff. And I had a great fan meet up with a bunch of people
Starting point is 01:14:15 at the Manhattan Barcade, which had Street Fighter, the movie, the game. Fuck yeah. So I had a couple of drunken fights with that. And big fights with the machine. Yes. I lost. There you go.
Starting point is 01:14:30 Big ups to Frenchy Agent Trashfire. Brooklyn and Emmy were all there and kind of took care of me and pointed me in the right places, because I had a few too many, which was rough the next day when I'm just walking around Manhattan just going, where do I? Oh, man. I don't know where to go to eat. I was also satch too.
Starting point is 01:14:52 There's luckily a lot of gutters you can pass out in in New York. I wasn't to pass out status. The ones with the steam coming out of them. Yeah, I love the steam. What's up, America? How come your streets just give off ball gas? I like it. It's all the Morlocks down there cooking.
Starting point is 01:15:08 Where do you think it all goes? Because it's what I grew up looking at in movies. The steam comes out of the ground. Everyone knows that. The giant alligators, Lila's parents, the Morlocks, they all are fucking, they're all vaping down there. And we're getting the blowback or whatever. That's how the Morlocks mutated,
Starting point is 01:15:26 because all the ball gases down there, they get exposed and over time. Nature lends itself to their creation. You know, ball gases. Things can spawn out of it. The name of the main character in Escaflonay in the first episode. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:15:41 The old man that's a badass with a huge sword. Because his name is just... I fucking hate this poll. His name is Morgas. I hate it because it's supposed to be Vargas, but they can't say it. No. So it just turns into ball gas.
Starting point is 01:15:55 Fucking hate that you made that poll accurately. Go on. But yeah, it was a good time there. And I saw a satch and the first thing I asked him was like, how come whenever I come to this fucking city, there's not cops eating pizza, handcuffed to criminals that are also eating pizza, like in the start of Ninja Turtles 2.
Starting point is 01:16:15 No one's eating pizza on the street corners. Every time I come, I'm very disappointed. And he's like, what do you want from me? What do you want me to say? Most of the street meat I saw was the meat on a stick. Yeah, it's meat on a stick. But I guess pizza is a chokehold. Street meat does not sound appealing.
Starting point is 01:16:37 It's more appealing when you actually eat it. It's really tasty. It's good. It is. So it was a good time. And back home here, I've been just working on a lot of stuff. But what I did get a chance to play is, have you heard of Super Seducer?
Starting point is 01:16:53 Yes, I have. In fact. I heard that Sony doesn't want to publish it. Sony doesn't want to publish it is an understatement where it's like Steam is like, yeah, we don't fucking care. The Steam doesn't give a shit. Look at what we put out. There's like, oh, did you hear that?
Starting point is 01:17:09 What? That was another anime titty game that just came out on Steam. There it goes again. But Super Seducer is, in case people don't know, is an FMV game where this douchebag British suit. So that is what I'm thinking of. It's that guy that got in trouble. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:27 And he tries to give you advice. And it's the most it's the room of video games where here's the scenario. That's quite the claim. A woman is walking outside in the suburbs in midday. How do you approach her to have a date? Hey, you shouldn't. That's not how dating shouldn't normally go. But the scenario presents itself regardless.
Starting point is 01:17:50 And it's like, stop and talk to her. And it's the most stilted non-human conversation that's ever had where he's like, oh, I was going to go see some friends. And then the choices pop up. And it's like, do you want to come with me to see my friends? You look very nice today. That is the most suspicious. This is exactly what you're looking at.
Starting point is 01:18:09 Well, ignore that and continue talking. And his other response is, can I look up your skirt and go down on you right now? And you will click on that because, of course, you want to see what happens. And it's hilarious. But the game doesn't end or whatever. It goes back to the douchebag that's sitting in his bedroom. And for a wrong answer, he's alone in the bedroom. He goes, ha, ha, very funny.
Starting point is 01:18:33 But you need to be serious about this. Then it brings you back to the choice. So you don't actually see it play out? No, you see a little bit. You see a little clip where she goes, what? Gross, fuck off. And she leaves. And he's like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 01:18:48 And then it cuts them in the bedroom. It could be funnier if the conversation continued. It's like, you're on a down streak with me, Mr. You need to pick up this conversation. I'm going to give you one more chance. Then if you do an answer that he feels is kind of acceptable, you then progress forward. But now two girls will be added into the bedroom,
Starting point is 01:19:09 but they'll be fully clothed and be looking away. What are they like prizes? Are they like trophies that they just stand there? They're there's player encouragement. And if you get his fully complete right answer, speaking of which one of the right answers in a later scenario was yeah, what are you doing? Like, hey, what's up?
Starting point is 01:19:30 Who are you? And he goes, oh, don't worry about me. I'm gay. And he goes, this is a thing you can do sometimes. It's like, pretend you're gay and be like, hey, look, let me touch your legs. It's OK. I'm gay.
Starting point is 01:19:42 Yeah, we knew that. And Leanna is freaking out. And she's like, that's not the right answer. Yeah. But it is having sex with her. And you're like, hey, I'm just gay. I'm gay. I'm just doing this as friends.
Starting point is 01:19:52 I'm doing you a favor. Girls are amazed by this behavior. How far we've come since night-to-night trap. Now that you've given the right answer, those girls in the bedroom are now wearing underwear. And they look very happy. There you are. You earned it.
Starting point is 01:20:07 But in one shot, I saw a girl clearly pushing her phone under the pillow because she was looking at it. There was somewhere in there. So that was a really good time, actually. Some of his advice was like, yeah, that's how you should approach this issue. That's something a human might do. That's something a human might do. But a lot of it was like, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:20:30 And it still has this skeezy undertone. Now he does say stuff like, you should respect women. And then he'll go back to the choices where it's like, but I'm trying to bang this bird. I don't even know. You know, I've never heard of something that is meant to make money off them selling advice on how to get laid, not being sleazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:51 I've never heard of a positive example of that. His actual job is dating guru. I sincerely don't think that's a real job. That's what he calls himself. I saw a question to him about like, he asked you to respond this. What do you think about the PS4 version being blocked? And his quote was, I have no words. I don't even want to think about it.
Starting point is 01:21:11 So this is part two of the guy game trilogy then. Yeah. And eventually it'll all come to a head. It's less crass. It's honestly less crass than the guy game. Well, also this one's not going to get pulled down for accidentally being child porn on Facebook. There is also some answers that was there are some answers that were so funny. Like, oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:21:28 Did your console accidentally print child porn? There are some answers that were so funny that I'm like, okay, that's legit, like entertaining as a thing. It was like a girl was like, oh, I really like animals. It says, say you're into dog fighting right away. And he's like, yeah, I'm really, really into dog fighting. What kind of dog do you have? She's like, it's like a German shepherd.
Starting point is 01:21:50 Oh, do you think your dog can beat my dog? Let's see. And I'm like, ah, it's. And he just has the dog with him in his arms. No, but then it would be like a quote John Lennon and then burst into song. Like creep behind the couch. And there's an answer where he's behind the couch. He's going, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
Starting point is 01:22:10 And the girl's listening on the couch going, what's going on? This doesn't seem like a realistic piece of advice to get. Could you do a favor for our audio listeners and describe the appearance of this gentleman? This this gentleman has three different appearances in the main menu. He has he has like kind of a bit of a stubble. He looks like a bad Orlando Bloom, like a crapped Orlando Bloom. Then when he's in the game doing the answers, he kind of has a foolish beard and he has kind of shaggy hair and he kind of looks a little pasty, a little little on the thin side.
Starting point is 01:22:44 A child between Liam and Jesus, perhaps. I'd say so. I can see that. His final form is when he's in the bedroom, has a big nasty knacker walking Phoenix beard, has glasses on and is wearing like a tux. And he looks like he dropped like another 30 pounds and he looks kind of anorexic. I'm pretty disappointed that his final form is not him wearing a giant fuzzy hat that's meant to garner attention.
Starting point is 01:23:10 Yeah. At no point. So at no point does the term neg get used in play. No. No. No. And it's really confusing about where it takes place because he meets a lot of girls with different accents, but they talk about different countries and they talk about America like
Starting point is 01:23:26 they're not in America. I have no idea where it's supposed to take place. It looks like the streak they're on is like a CG backdrop, honestly. I don't know where it takes place and the girls accents change wildly. Because you said, I forgot what name you said. He's his job is dating guru. Yeah. And not pickup artists.
Starting point is 01:23:41 Yes, because that's not. Yeah. Okay. After three hours of gameplay, like still hadn't even gotten halfway through it. So you say there's a lot of value here. There's a lot of value. New DLC was added last night, which was called the First Kiss DLC. Richard and his band of experts tell you how to get from point A to the kiss in record time.
Starting point is 01:24:02 Wow. There's a market. Maybe we should check that out. Is that on our docket? There's a market. For Ed Reeds tonight? It's not. No, it is not.
Starting point is 01:24:10 I don't believe so. But it was a fun time. It's not like horribly offensive, but it's skating really close to it. This is a current PC hot exclusive. This came out last week, yeah. So yeah, that's. But you haven't reached the end yet. No, I don't know if there's a good or bad end.
Starting point is 01:24:33 So you could be like evolving into a true hobo where he's just become a stick, but he's all his beard is a dark past. I feel like there I would be way more interested in like a fucking DLC expansion that it's like how to lie to your partner about how come they got a venereal disease from you or some shit like that. Like not just dating. But yeah, no relationship thing for dirtbags. One of the answers was I what do you do in your spare time?
Starting point is 01:24:58 And one of the answers is I enjoy inflicting pain on others. Treat my mass media. And you'd think he go I enjoy inflicting pain on others, but no, it's like a fucking Mass Effect game where he says something completely different. And then after three or four sentences, he drops the bombshell and then continues with that line of thought. And the girls just looking around the club, just begging for help. I'm not sure if they were actresses.
Starting point is 01:25:25 So the four mod that changes the dialogue hasn't gotten there yet. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, no. Super seducer. Don't check it out. That sounds watch watch watch my stream. Test results DLC. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:39 Yeah. How did it works? It works. Make make the call how to how to how to give the doctor a fake blood sample for the paternity test. Like all that cool shit. A refill video where to be fair to you. She's pregnant.
Starting point is 01:25:55 And then well, he's on the phone. He just puts the phone down and hides under the coats or whatever. I forget. I forget. I forget what I vaguely recall something. You couldn't do it. You kept laughing. Laughing under the coats.
Starting point is 01:26:11 Something funny. Just a pile of coats jiggling with at least laugh coming out of it. I'm not the father. Not this time. Okay. To be fair, though, none of us are super seducers. So he could be on the something we just wouldn't know. Yeah, we don't know.
Starting point is 01:26:27 Yeah, but I had a hack. I had a girl playing with me and she was like 90 percent of this is garbage. Yeah. Oh, what do they know? Well, because she like clubbed for 10 years straight. That wouldn't work on me at all. Would it? Wouldn't it?
Starting point is 01:26:40 Wouldn't. No. I don't know. No, wouldn't. I just feel like, hey girl, you want to see some frame data? By the way, in all these scenarios, he presents himself. I work in IT. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:51 Yeah. So you want to see where the gas is made? Just try to think of something even worse. It's like I'll make a clown honking noise. They don't tell you that in high school. Don't worry, girl. The hurt box doesn't extend as far as the hit box. I see my rush down.
Starting point is 01:27:13 That's better. Not bad. What's the worst one? Hey, I think frame traps. Check out my Oki. I'll I'll I'll pressure you on wake up. What? That sounds terrible.
Starting point is 01:27:29 That sounds bad. Oh, there you go. Okay, how clean was that rip? All right. Someone roll with her. All right. Oh. If she breathed.
Starting point is 01:27:40 You thought. All right. Pressure you on wake up. How, um, how'd your week go, Pat? Oh, let's see. I didn't play I didn't play anything fancy. I finished it crowd and the season finale of it crowd is horrific to me personally. Wally, have you seen it?
Starting point is 01:28:00 Matt, have you seen it? I have not. The the season finale, the series finale of it crowd is Jen and Roy get caught in a viral video and the world turns against them and fucking the news and anonymous and all this shit start coming after them and they say something stupid on Twitter and it's it was much too real. Wow. It was this never happened to any of us. Not yet.
Starting point is 01:28:26 It hasn't. But yeah, great show. Once again, fucking England's make longer series. You can blow through every English series in like a second. Yeah, but it's also it's like no one to quit as well. Yeah, I know. There's got to be an in between between Britain and England. Britain and the US.
Starting point is 01:28:49 There has to be. I also played a bunch of vermin tied to which if you're unfamiliar with it, here's a real short description. You know Left 4 Dead? No. All right, let's try this again. Analogy over. You know Left 4 Dead.
Starting point is 01:29:07 Use another one. Yes. You know how you shoot guns in Left 4 Dead? Okay. Instead you swing you swing swords. Well, this is more for Willie because I played a decent amount of vermin tied one. I've watched the dudes play vermin tied. You swing swords and it's good.
Starting point is 01:29:20 This is for the podcast. And these. You're going to say that you swing rats. No, you swing your swords at the rats. Just bigger. It'd be more entertaining if you swung giant rats at an army of menacing swords. Oh man, like a rat flail? That would be amazing.
Starting point is 01:29:33 That wouldn't last very long. A rat flail would be fucking sick. Game's great. There's a shit ton of levels and they're all a lot more expensive than the first games. The addition of the chaos faction is fantastic. Not just because rats got a little dull in the first game, but because they get there. They represent a consistently varied type of enemy.
Starting point is 01:29:57 Like there are now like in Left 4 Dead you had like the generic zombie was maybe 99.9% of all enemies that you would fight. And in vermin tied 2 you have three lower forms of rats and like two or three lower forms of chaos guys and they all have their different properties and group sizes and shenanigans. Vermin tied is the war hammer game, isn't it? Yes, it is. Yeah, it's very, very, very war hammer-y. But it's not 40k.
Starting point is 01:30:24 No, it's war hammer. It's war hammer. It is kind of weird that they went with them rather than the millions of other races. I guess I can see why. It's because of the slave enemies. Like vermin tied is a thing that already existed in the war hammer fiction. And it's like the moon's going to get close and the fucking rat guys are going to go fucking crazy and they're going to swarm over all the humans and they're going to kill them.
Starting point is 01:30:50 And they're like, well, this is me assuming rats are kind of like zombies or at least they can fit the bill for a giant swarming mass of enemies that are seemingly infinite and super weak compared to your characters. Until the rat king shows up. Oh, you mean the rat ogre? I meant the rat king. Just trying to do a rat king reference. There's a rat ogre, though.
Starting point is 01:31:13 Isn't he a morlock? The rat king is kind of a morlock. He kind of was. He does have the power to control rats. He really did. So it is a mutant power. It is. It is kind of like a, yeah, it wouldn't be a stretch.
Starting point is 01:31:26 Certainly wouldn't. You should explore this at a future date. But yeah, game has really great manly combat like that. You said you played from a type one. It's pretty much the same. The main differences are they expanded the levels a lot and they expanded the class and weapon structure a lot. So it has a loot system that is actually very similar to destiny, which I did not expect at all.
Starting point is 01:31:45 But it's a lot of fun and it's also super cheap. It's like 28 bucks and it's got like 16 giant levels and all this new stuff. I've been having a blast playing it and go out. Did you have any technical problems with it? Cause I recall installing the first, like I tried to play the first one, but I installed it and it just would not run on my PC, which is very strange. I did not have that problem with vermentide one. I played the close and public beta for this game.
Starting point is 01:32:12 And those betas were real. They were real betas. There was some fucked up broken UI shit in it. Like the, the beta that was out like up until the last day before game release had the fucking phrase state is trusted in the upper left corner of the screen at all times. The only problem I've had with this game so far is that there's a bug with the launcher where if you're running at 4k, the launcher hides itself in the corner. So I just, I just tab and hit enter and then I get it.
Starting point is 01:32:42 But aside from that smooth sailing game runs better than the first game, particularly early if you use the DX 12 client. It's great. Did you ever fix your problem with a Kotor or two? Nope. Full string. I didn't. Hell no.
Starting point is 01:32:55 In fact, it got worse. In fact, it got worse. Now my house is on fire. The vermentide two is a blast and anybody who is looking for a left for dead style game or a co-op game or a melee fighting game, like it's a ton of fun. It's cheap. Or if you're into the Warhammer. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:15 It's well. But not 40 cam. There's a lot of really fucking bad Warhammer games. There's a lot. We talked about this last weekend. There are. You guys should do a space springing LP. This is a really good one.
Starting point is 01:33:28 Well, I, I, it sounded always like there were a lot more 40k fans and there were Warhammer fans. There still is a lot more 40k fans. Yeah. I think I'd have watched more of a 40k fan than. It's more visible. But for a melee combat focused game and 40k would be stupid. Because then it would literally just be left for dead. Just be chainsaws.
Starting point is 01:33:50 Yeah. Right. Like they have their bolters and they have their all that shit. And in fact there is a. Saw swords. Where are they? Chainswords. Chainswords.
Starting point is 01:33:58 There is a similar game to this called Deathwing. Not to be confused with the Warcraft Dragon. That is bad. Is really bad. Space Hulk. Yeah. With a name like Deathwing. How could it be bad?
Starting point is 01:34:17 I don't know. But it's bad. It's a money game. Death. You're looking at Deathwing. Get Vermintide instead. Winged Fang. The Dawn of War games.
Starting point is 01:34:28 Evil 2. One and two are good. Space Marine is good. Vermintides are good. Dawn of War 3. I wonder if they ever improve that. And if you like Total War the Total War games are good. But aside from that it's pretty much all trash.
Starting point is 01:34:40 Especially the MMO. Kill Blade. And Fire Warrior. Holy shit that game is terrible. Yeah. I think the worst is that. That's another generic name. That fucking mobile like side scroller that came out.
Starting point is 01:34:52 That came out for PC. Which one's that? Ugh. It came out. It came out on mobile phones. And then they just ported it to Steam all of a sudden. And Jim Sterling played it. He's like oh this is the worst.
Starting point is 01:35:03 This might be the worst one. I forget the name of it. But who cares. Okay. I'll tag in there. Hey man. What up? Hey Woolly.
Starting point is 01:35:11 How was your week Woolly? Did you recover from your death state? I recovered from my death state. And your death wing. Your Casper mattress death wing. And I went to the states actually. I was out of town for a little bit there. But so I had some time to do things that weren't involved with my arcade stick.
Starting point is 01:35:35 So one, I finished off Devilman Cry Baby. And whoo whoo whoo whoo. Wolf. How'd it do? Warf. That, I'm still at the same spot that I was at last time. I mean pages haven't gotten around to it. It's like man that is hyper violent.
Starting point is 01:36:00 Middle of it? Yeah right in the middle. Dead center. Okay. Well right when the girl goes to the club. And then that's the end of it. Okay. So yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:08 So that is, oh boy. Well now that that's. I think you reviewed it by saying whoo whoo warf. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. And there was another thing. There's another really. I also associate warf. There's an interesting conversation to have when it comes to what was inspired by
Starting point is 01:36:32 like Devilman later on. And definitely like to see how like this is a you know somewhat retelling of like the original story. And it's a conversation that like will have to have after you finish it. Okay. But so you're saying it inspired Evangelion. I'm saying it inspired quite a couple things. But one thing that's really like I enjoyed it.
Starting point is 01:36:57 I definitely did enjoy it. And like I didn't know it was a retelling you know. I only only caught that after the fact when I went back and like was digging for an hour after I finished it off. But like yeah there's only like I'd say like like there's definitely like um like one of the one of the complaints is kind of like your main character really just goes along with the ride a whole lot. In some kind of ridiculous ways and even early on.
Starting point is 01:37:23 Oh no the whole way through he's really just like. No but what I mean is like very early on there's a moment where some nefarious shit occurs. Yeah. And he's like how could you. And then the scene just jumps and then they're hanging out eating dinner. And it definitely is weird shit. Yeah yeah right. And like that's that's a whole lot of what you're seeing in that.
Starting point is 01:37:43 Because he's a double man. And that's pretty much in its in its staying accurate to the original honestly. Oh he fucking loves being double man. He's too caught up being double man to be concerned about this other stuff. There's definitely that and there's also a thing this will do at some point where I've talked about it a couple times in the past but it's this thing that I've only seen in anime. And it's it's moments of way too much stress and importance put on social media. Right.
Starting point is 01:38:15 The importance of somebody posting online and everyone on the forums are talking about it. Like I like like I think I made it two to a while ago but like yeah various little things of just this amazing this crazy scary phenomenon happened and everyone didn't know and knew what was happening but the forums were a mix with rumors and it's just everyone like always referring to the forums and the and oh no like something happened in class today and then everybody on the room yes later on and it's like fucking relax man that's not the rest of the world. Nobody gives that much of a shape. How do you know how do you know the kids of today aren't like that.
Starting point is 01:38:55 And there's sometimes what an anime there's sometimes an anime where like massive social change will will like start from someone's post somewhere or you know what I mean like they'll put someone made a forum post had a funny picture. It's pretty much it right and I'm like that's fucking horseshit every time nobody cares. Do you know that the kids of today aren't like that. Yeah well unfortunately there definitely are things where there's like a little documentary about like high school girls using Twitter and how like if someone clicks like on something like or does if your friends don't click like within a certain time frame that means they
Starting point is 01:39:31 hate you yeah that's right right and like and like also if something doesn't get enough likes within a couple hours they pull the picture down yeah and then like there's a whole language that is fucking talking about devil man anyway so no I'm branching off into this other topic but but is there anything that you can include in a narrative that completely makes the tone of your story impotent other than including stupid modern bullshit about forum posting or searching for really really searching for the ghosts on google it's a really strong one because and it's and it's it wouldn't be so bad if it were just like a detail that is like oh by the way also people have been concerned about this it's always the fucking crux but it's all it's
Starting point is 01:40:18 always so much weight on the anonymous voices online and everyone feels the pressure oh man your dick pics got uploaded you know and not only that but like but the speed of the speed of change too you know it's like everyone sees the tweet immediately oh dude anime is is fucking wild with that hyper time it's hyper it's like everything like i fucking every fucking anime that has to do with some bullshit always ends like and then a wave of social changed war went over the earth and vr mmo's were banned like the oh like the you will unlike the only times i will be convinced is when you handle it like that one episode of black mirror there's an episode of black mirror that's pretty much about twitter you mean all of them yeah but no there's one no there's ones with
Starting point is 01:41:07 everyone right and and like you're like yeah that's how you make it work and that's how social changed what if it comes from fucking internet usage but but what what what i'm just trying to shitpost about what if what if your mom ran on battery but uh what was also twitter i know and i saw aside from aside from what's wrong with you aside from falling into that that like uh sad little what if your parents were just twitter robots um i definitely thought it was all right but like yeah the the main character definitely needs to um cave in a like rational manner that someone who has a friend that's doing shitty things would do that does sound a little bit like evangelion yeah um we'll get into it more when you when you finish we'll get into more of that later
Starting point is 01:41:58 later i watched your name that is a very good movie i enjoyed that yeah i did a very good movie grab my mom watch it my loved one watched it with me and hated it and your loved one hates me because i yeah that's right your loved one has no soul that's correct the whole movie is like why isn't she just running and leaving them to die like really bitch she's just no it is one of those movies where if you focus too much on like if you're not completely immersed and you don't care about that all the details will start dragging you away from it and you're like how come they just don't do this or did they really not notice this in five fucking years or whatever it's been what i liked what i liked about it was that uh going in completely cold and not knowing anything about
Starting point is 01:42:45 where it was gonna go um i was surprised to see like the initial premise introduced in the way it was i was like oh it's one of these movies yeah and then it it's like oh it's not one of those movies at all you you think you can call out what it is and where it's going and you actually can't and that i had the same experience when i watched it on the plane it was like oh this is that movie huh this kind of thing i've seen one of these before or four is this the one that jj abram's option to make into live action oh yeah i think it's the one oh that would make sense they want to make it in america which uh when i saw the movie i pointed it out like i can't think of a fucking movie that is more important that it's japanese than this movie yeah how's that american scene of
Starting point is 01:43:32 them going to the uh the festival where she barfs up alcohol into a thing like that what it could be at a church they could make changes but they'd be embarrassing changes they'd be fucking weird let's not spoil anything though it's a very good movie that you should go watch if you haven't watched it boreful that shit and and i've had there was at least like a solid five or six moments of pause rewind fucking look at how gorgeous that shot is oh that's really pretty the fucking animation is really big pretty animal so good um there's moments where they play with focus and where things are like photorealistic in their rendering quality it's it's wow i read an interview with the director he's like yeah we fucking nailed
Starting point is 01:44:15 went super cheap on a bunch of shots really we like studio uh studio uh fucking ran out of money we were this thing was gonna look way better but we had to make it look crappy and everyone's like what uh you know that dream sequence in the middle that is like just yeah it's super painted animation yeah there was supposed to be like five times as much as the and they were just like sure there's no money to pay for this there's it's just not gonna happen so um either way i appreciate that and i liked the the japanese folk soundtrack as well that was that was that was pleasant it's a good movie good movie that's uh your name kimino nawa yeah unless you're some sort of monster yeah unless you're some sort of heartless monster some sort of mustard infested
Starting point is 01:45:01 it has bad taste in movies uh somehow powering condiments from a trough like an animal it's getting real uh and i you know what else you got uh and um i um i i spent a bit of time on the switch version of darkest dungeon yeah checking out how that's going and it worked out um it's thank god the switch has a touch screen because that game with button prompts only gets really complicated at points there's a lot of like you don't think about it you just move the mouse over here and click on a thing but is it a
Starting point is 01:45:50 combination like you use you choose on the outset i want just no no no you can touch screen at any time okay so that saves all of the problems right but if you just had a d-pad and buttons to navigate that menu there's so many things to click on at any time on the screen how did you play the original with a keyboard computer yeah with a keyboard and mouse you know and you don't even need the keyboard yeah there's one thing that uses the keyboard and it's to sell items on the main menu uh not a menu on your like your HUD whatever your your your blah you can sell items when you're at at the the at home right but outside of that you can use the mouse for everything else okay so uh uh because i put the ps4 version so really yeah okay and what are we talking about darkest dungeon
Starting point is 01:46:42 oh and uh you you i guess you just were fine moving around and yeah i mean but if i don't know yeah if you don't know then yeah sure you don't know then now you know um because there's stuff there's stuff where i was really like going like wow like you hold like a r2 for example and then it highlights your characters on the right bar and then you have to uh then move the d-pad while holding that button select one drag them over to the main thing and then the slot that they go into whether it's position one two three or four yeah is like it's it orders them in terms of like if you have two guys in you can't go straight to the fourth slot it's always going to go to the third right and then but you might you know is there's little things like that where you're like all you had to
Starting point is 01:47:21 do originally was drag that box over there but now you have yeah you know gotta make some concessions on the controller um and then talking about darkest dungeon pat yeah i know and there's also talking about the weird controls on the switch and there's also yeah and there's also parts where um you open up your character's window with their stats and stuff and then you'll open up an inventory window with items on it over that window but now you're using no mouse to control those things you know so you and you're dragging items from one to the other it really uh definitely like yeah having that touchscreen saves it quite a bit um it's fine in the end but uh it i feel like that game is limited by uh it's the scope was definitely to never leave pc it feels like and then this is a retro fit
Starting point is 01:48:11 but hey you got to get you got to get it on the go you do you do get it on the go like you got star crafts on your n64 you know that was not to go you got not on the go but you got it on it you got it on your tv if you needed it then it was there for you and this this is like that um but otherwise it's it's still great and it's amazing how fast you can i was worried about all the time spent being like oh fuck i got to start from scratch you know but like when you know what you're doing you can blaze through it really quick well especially you so um yeah man that that remains as as good as ever oh man you all right yeah i'm good cool let's talk darkest dungeon is a good game it's a good game it's a very good game it's a game that was made for me that i don't
Starting point is 01:48:53 want to play yeah it was huh why is that i don't know it's got that feeling for me like i don't think i wow i wouldn't have to try very hard like that i don't like it it's just one of those things like darkest dungeon if you play dark is done uh don't get too attached to anyone that's that game it's one of those things for me is i put a lot of emphasis on building things up and progress in that respect so whenever you have a game like that but it just tears all of it away but it makes it so much more awesome when you do have a cast that like stays in and and is doing well and actually does work yeah and and the thing is when you learn how to play the game like you can how to play the game like when you you can you can survive you can definitely survive you
Starting point is 01:49:39 know into the breach is sort of like that too although it's not cranked up to 11 like darkest dungeon likes to do it doesn't darkest dungeon isn't really cranked up to 11 um what's it cranked up to feels like it is yeah i mean like a nine right i mean quite literally it's cranked up to six right but uh it it really like it definitely there's a point in the middle ground and i imagine xcom is kind of the same where you're like you you hit your stride you know how to keep your your guys alive unless you unless like horrible rng where like you know comes into play and or you just really under prepare for a mission and you're pretty much in a state where like you will fail and your guys will get all fucked up but they won't be dead they'll just be like full of all
Starting point is 01:50:23 kinds of plagues and diseases which is what darkest dungeon is missing darkest dungeon needs an avatar project i was i was actually looking at uh game makers toolkit which is a fun little youtube dark events just discovered about game design and describe the xcom positive feedback loop which also applies to darkest dungeon in that you get the ball rolling and success is rewarded more success and if you i i've never played a darkest dungeon run where i got the ball rolling okay it's always been failure compounded with more failure okay okay and like that's probably the cutoff point for a lot of people that they can't get that initial role and that's what causes the snowball distance with the game yeah yeah i think i think uh a big it's kind of like when you're starting
Starting point is 01:51:07 like like like let's say it's the first time you're playing a souls game and you just run up to an enemy like you any other game you just start swinging on it and then you go oh no really awakening the the piece of knowledge that you need for darkest dungeon is to absolutely target and annihilate anyone that fucks with your stress before anything else yes right it used to be even worse that's the piece of information that you don't know going in that you you think you're like oh they're just casters and it's like no you worry about your health murder the stress inducers before anything else yeah like fuck your health yeah let them have your health don't let them stress you out exactly exactly just like real life is a statement but then you
Starting point is 01:51:48 overcome right then you then you become no no you get no you eventually succumb always just like real life and i put a cute kitten picture under that one yes and at some point the diseases get way too expensive to to cleanse and then it's an expensive disease i don't i don't just dump them in the pit yeah that's not a super seducer comes into play yeah he can hang out in the pit hey man i've got all the most expensive diseases only the most luxurious diseases for me imported from friends i designer diseases i caught i caught hemophilia from from you caught it the british yeah so what happened in the last several days of video oh there's been some stuff i have the t virus that's so lost to you fucking alex ashford alford ashford that's kind of
Starting point is 01:52:49 it's done yeah so people did used to install tapeworms in their bodies yeah helps you lose weight yep that's right they still people there's still places where they do you speaking of tapeworms all right yeah all right okay speaking of ball gas tapeworms and a tapeworm that lived in your balls perfect it's a hell of a long ejaculation there was a nintendo direct was tapeworm come out yeah and they covered a lot of things on that nintendo direct that we should probably party favor hey man there's only one thing to talk about stop making 3ds games stop it that's the only thing let's let's stop making money is what you want to say the switch is out the 3ds doesn't need to exist anymore every every don't care every
Starting point is 01:53:42 you know who cares nintendo i'm sure every 3ds announcement is is i agree with you i don't want these 3ds every 3ds announcement is an attack on a switch owner switch owner that's that's that's what what the problem is but when someone pointed out to me like no it sells as good in japan as it ever did i'm like oh that's not gonna stop then japan's not a real place everyone knows that i know but i i know you lie um so obviously i hate it obviously we got memes coming in hard coming to fastest strong been the biggest meme creation in many time because they know they're like man people gonna meme this shit out of this what are you staring at but which meme are we talking about smash the thing in the squidlings eye okay what do you want to put in the eye today
Starting point is 01:54:34 put basil goose in there good job magma that was a good one put a picture of shrek yeah sure with shrek's eye looking at smash yeah yeah you can alternatively get a good picture of your cats put the smash logo get a nice get get killer queen put killer queen in the eye yeah that's good yeah it's such a shitty meme it's a good meme no it's just an eye i'm gonna put an unrelated picture in the eye and hell yeah that's yeah you mean you described every meme no the way that no no um i'm starting to suspect memes might be bad you shut your mouth no the best the best we use them as a currency if they're bad the best version of it is uh mario running topless with his shirt off as your public picture and then evil burning in the dark mario as your private
Starting point is 01:55:24 account uh smash five is a thing yeah is it it might be a port it's gonna be it's gonna be smash 4.5 if it is max or it will be five it's not gonna be a the fact that it's coming out right this this year makes me think that it's got some old stuff in it yeah if i think it would make sense if it were smash 4.5 and i think that would be fine yeah i you know what i was talking to Liam about this new one i would really like i'd like a complete cutback i want 20 characters cut what i do i know i want the chat i want dark pit gone i want dr mario gone i want all these characters gone and i want kind of like a third strike yeah well that's that's what i like by what do you mean by that alone mario and link and all new you're alone and your and your thoughts
Starting point is 01:56:15 and money are not welcome sure to this sea sure but i like it's a crossover game okay but it's like dark pit need to be in it no dark pit was like a bonus character that didn't cost the same amount of resources as a regular they get rid of them but why because it's lame but you didn't take not good enough a way to not good enough reason for the for the for the i community i sure right but the community people that live breathe and die by this now the game has 58 characters i think you can cut a few no you can add to double them i mean double the amount yeah like like we've seen giant ross giant characters like screens man like do you know do you know other other fighting games get away with this all the time when they reboot when they reboot they got to start from yeah and
Starting point is 01:57:04 then and then marvel infinite got slammed hard as fuck for not having the roster that it was supposed to have including the x-men to be fair it's like the second one also kind of in theory it's all fine and dandy in theory until your favorite character gets cut yeah i don't have a favorite character right because but if you did and you're not gonna play the game better it'd be annoying to cut fuck yeah cut fucks just to make those people pissed off i just mean like in a perfect world i think smash needs this but it's not going to no in a perfect world smash wouldn't exist no you know what i saw when i looked at that direct with all the other announcements and then they do the smash thing i'm like okay what's the rule has to have appeared on a nintendo
Starting point is 01:57:49 console right okay that means crash solar and any character you want from undertale are now viable as third party picks in smash bros sure my thought honestly every time there's a smash announcement my thought is damn poor sakurai right his hands continue to explode that poor guy is just trying i've been working on this secretly trying to get out and they won't let him they keep pulling him back in what i do want realistically is that every character that does return is their new version i don't want mario i only want capi mario i don't want mario with flood anymore oh we're done with that i think that i don't want traditional link i only want breath of the right now but the problem he's got no hat but in the problem you mean he does have a hat not that
Starting point is 01:58:40 focus so the okay people have broken down these link no no i thought he meant mario no links no but i don't want link with a breath of the wild costume that does link shit i want breath of the wild link that uses magnets and time stopping oh i want to get rid of old link uh so mario's not wearing capi they've not analyzed that and they've seen it in the trailer so it's like no weird eyeballs on that um and breath of the wild link might very well just be a new character in the four and in smash four as a thing so that's a thing you could totally get um you know i i feel like if this is in fact 4.5 you're getting how many gokoos are going to be inside this game yeah well probably there's already some several goku equivalents inside it um yeah link is the goku no mario's the
Starting point is 01:59:28 goku because they're all go mario's goku but yeah but there's a ton of links sakurai right now there's two sakurai right now i mean there's two in smash is tons sakurai right now is is kojima in the middle of the franchise yeah you know and and like he's he feels trapped and like his interviews and him talking about this stuff it's like he's still gonna make a fucking good game but boy oh boy does he want to do other things the statement that came out was like i'm just putting my head down and working hard and then like from a normally talkative interview person that screamed like boy i'm tired i mean he got to make his his kid Icarus he did get that but i feel like he needs another one of those like let me let me do whatever i want let me ask you
Starting point is 02:00:19 guys would you just be happy with all the 3ds and we use stages and like a couple new characters and maybe five new stages i said you'd be happy with that like 4.5 in its definition that's all the content that's out right now plus a couple new things that's fine by me i'd be very happy to like that's totally fine but i think they'll always bug me about the 3ds and we uvers like the stages there's so many fucking stages that are unique to each well it's not just that but it's also the fact that it's like the product is mainly coming out as a necessity to the console yeah and not because there's it's time for a new smash yeah and smash for we you sold gangbusters even though it was only we use so what mash on the switch honestly i get the feeling that what
Starting point is 02:01:01 they're doing is they've recognized there are so many games that were on the we or that are locked to 3ds whatever that people just didn't play because of that and we know that if we take it over to the switch then it's going to sell and people the thing that they were actually interested in but they felt like they couldn't play because they didn't want the system now they can yeah so that's the reason why i'm showing up now our intrigue that this might just actually be smash five just because a they didn't reveal a real logo and all this stuff like little bits or like oh namco bandai is not in the the trademark thing and they were like one of the primary workforces on smash for we you it's it's little things like that it's only it only feels unlikely
Starting point is 02:01:40 because of how soon it's very soon it's not actually well it depends when they started it feels like it is but when did smash but it you come out but don't think but don't think about don't it's not that think about when the last release of content was yes yes that's that which was not long ago so that's what it is smash final mix like every every one of those guest characters has been popping up like you know over the over time it's been it's been a supported platform for a while urban champion finally no yep absolutely you can get an urban champion stage that's fine too so you're the problem though is that characters like that are now going to be way on the back burner compared to full-on crazy guests from other franchises you know what i mean how many bayonetas and clouds
Starting point is 02:02:26 are going to take the place of little max and duck hunts of course you know because that's the thing so and it makes sense because that brings more hype for people leon was like fucking replace little mac i was like with who with springman i'm like i'd be fine with that no they springman arms character character that has different moves if you don't have to replace if you're going to replace a boxer but like but once upon a i guess it's not a problem but it's just more the idea that once upon a time it was like oh like get like takamaru from takamaru's castle for example or you know what it means what obscure old nintendo character can you bring back and save right and also and now it's like should be ribbon girl and now it's like actually what triple a
Starting point is 02:03:07 character from another like franchise would would work in this goku rayman it's not a triple goku but you know which goku um it would be a rabbit it would be a rabbit over rayman literally the biggest like the biggest success you saw this had nintendo it would it would be a rabbit game so put solar in the game they made an amiibo for you actually want that i absolutely 100 no oh my god you and that and he's just a normal sword character with a down b counter yeah and also his range shit is lightning he throws like yeah yeah everyone's like hey you want to uh please just like you know what i want him to be you know what i want his fucking final smash to be i want his final smash to be he hits you with the sword and then like a sunbeam
Starting point is 02:03:55 holds on him and he praises the sun and then he then like 10 solar is just they're not t posing they're sun praising but they start doing that goku black shit in that stupid pose all over and it looks like flying across the screen yeah in a in a y pose instead of a t pose just a tornado of praising the sun that's right that's what i want okay uh uh uh some people are like uh yeah you want travis to smash right i'm like no travis doesn't deserve to be smashed that's why he should be in smash even more it's just like yes he's been on exclusively mostly nintendo consoles except for one port but i'm like it's just i don't know every suggestion about there should be in smash is it's they've all like that list is still there you can just throw more names on it as we go further
Starting point is 02:04:42 into the future you know it's like all of them be ignored playing exact playing this game is like there's no winners here it's time to get super mad about characters and smash travis be fine and smash as long as he has a purple jacket yeah plus i don't want another sword character maybe we can get rid of one of the 17 fire emblems sword characters you know i'm gonna get rid of nothing people loves fire emblems what is smash do complain about too many sword characters they do they do yeah and so when i said hey salara people want another sword character i'm like i don't care take out marth like i'll give a shit well that's like no no you need to like you you can say someone like palutena and get the least amount of flak over it but that's a unique character but those
Starting point is 02:05:24 people will still come for your fucking house are there any toon link people that will come to my house there's one i'm sure probably probably hug i'm not afraid of those i'm sure there's dark pits out there yeah are there oh i'm sure oh yeah this game there's a scene this game is played competitively guys no matter how that's a lie no matter how this game alive okay but they took out street fighter characters they wait for five okay that's played competitively what's the difference no no i'm talking about i'm talking about like like a game where this is a new platform where you're starting from scratch those characters off to be built from scratch versus one where they already exist right with the idea of pulling them out when they already exist if this is in fact 4.5
Starting point is 02:06:10 would drive people crazy that'd be well pull them out and then put them back in as dlc yeah street fighter five getting as many characters as four had would mean the game would have taken a way longer to come out that i see what it's a new system i see what you're saying but you're comparing new smash releases to something like street fighter two versus alpha versus third strike right or instead all the smash releases are essentially new street fighter two releases the roster goes up until the system dramatically changes or maybe the system won't dramatically somehow doubted ever well yeah it's too rabid too crazy it's too in there it's locked in well i think like you know it's it has been actually like for whatever years it's been like the fact
Starting point is 02:06:52 that the dlc only came out for smash 4 like last year bayonetta maybe i forget bayonetta was the most recent character edition uh that yeah she got her than me but they're not they're not changing the game dramatically no they're not they're definitely not did speaking of crossover stuff do you have the well oh well i was going to say since you talked about it we might as well get into the other story which is like yeah there's going to be a solar amoeba solar and you use it to praise the sun in dark souls and what is that location is really like that out now by the way of course it is and it just lets you praise the sun in advance of actually getting the gesture that's correct and it'll be used to smash sure yeah sure all the money is now taken from everyone
Starting point is 02:07:36 what is funny is the official account uh making that tweet where they're like you'll you can always praise the selen whatever it's basically saying like uh you can always praise the sun for free but to do it ahead of getting the gesture well you'll have to spend a bit of coin so yeah here he comes i've been trying to decide if this amoebo is like the death of the original spirit of dark souls or not i figured most people that were super into dark souls would feel that about it and all i can say is i understand where that's coming from but at the same time no one cares yeah but it's like who really cares but it's also like why wouldn't the they like take the thing that was the most popular thing from their game that everyone
Starting point is 02:08:17 recognizes and make turn it commodify it like this remember the thing that we were talking about at the the start of the stream about how we kind of just become like marketed toys for everyone that's correct we're not even really people i'm a person that's that's solar like if he was aware of it yeah that's for sure it's it's total it's it's dark souls means that is did you know that solar is just a big meme yeah they put him in the game as a meme and they said boy i hope characters people will meme this character they will and they were right tweeted out pictures going mean this like snoop dogs it's it's like they're looking at two pictures of two dark souls characters like which one should we make the amiibo for should we make it for solar or should we have this gaping dragon
Starting point is 02:08:56 amiibo oh man it may be drag and amiibo would be so it made it to the final cut well no for real the care the other character that it could have been would have been oscar who's not even named in the game and dies in like two seconds so it's guy in the box the guy in the box but like and like okay nobody gives a shit about oscar of estura and and and and how angry would like people at en masse be about it not being solar also solar gets to have a unique looking amiibo because it's a person in a weird pose it should be a framped amiibo this would it should be framped or cat whichever one you want it's kind of like into the game and it just makes a farting noise i am a snake like on the one hand dark souls is there yes but on the other it's kind of like
Starting point is 02:09:42 like what else where else was it going to go yeah you know what else were they going to do like when are we going to get the idle master spinoff with dark souls dark idle what else you got willy all right by napko i was about to ask like i noticed that we were talking about crossover games and you see gerald up there on the on the screen yeah he's going to be in smash uh did you see what cd priak read was tweeting out yeah they said they basically asked hey if you want to see or rather gerald's gonna show up in another franchise smash right so the witcher's going to be a guest in something where is he going to be who knows i i have a strong guess what's your guess soul calbert that's a that's a good because it's the same guest that everyone made
Starting point is 02:10:27 yeah okay everyone well it's not going to be smashed for sure i don't know there's no here on it yeah he's appearing multiple like such as well see how will it um where you going the story about us being okay the story about gerald being a guest character i just wanted to reflect the question i had no answer to oh yeah okay yeah you but you you set it up for yourself sure it is but i ran away from it oh man well anyway yeah soul calbert it would be an obvious place to go and it and it solves the problem which is fucking exclusive to one platform guest character like yeah that still doesn't mean they won't have one sure but it would it would absolutely i would be pissed if blood-borne hunter wasn't in this game
Starting point is 02:11:13 i would prefer girl uh prepared to be pissed then why because it's why would you prefer gerald over blood i mean he's got a more interesting you know it's not about preference it's just about like i think i think getting the hunt i think blood-borne character showing up is a long shot it'd be really cool but i don't think it's like why would it be a long show and sony owns a character well because i'm saying there's two ways to look at it it's can be a giant huge positive if it shows up versus being a negative if it's not i think if it's i think looking at it as a negative just like Darth Vader and and yoda they well know that that wouldn't explain like fuck this game if he doesn't if blood-borne's not in it is like we're expectations are going
Starting point is 02:11:50 i don't remember saying fuck this game i remember seeing i'd be disappointed if he was i'd be pissed yeah you said i'd be pissed yeah okay fine but i'm you know what i mean like i'd be angry if i hammered it would be and i think that's it it's a difference of perspective i'm like i would i would not expect it i'm not gonna set myself to expect it but if he shows up holy shit that's awesome you know the reason i say that uh gerald would be a better choice is because they could straight up just give him links moveset there's that too they like he has potions bombs magic stuff i'm sure they deleted that data yeah but what i mean is is the blood-borne man has blood-borne and gerald has like a really wide variety of stuff that he could put in a moveset
Starting point is 02:12:36 i think when i when i kind of like collect collected a little bit i think anytime you set your expectations on a guess of a guest in a thing in a you know on a cameo like there's just no guarantees you're gonna get that you know it's it's a it's a weird place to put hopes and dreams where there's so much chance for it to not be that sure but it's also the best place to put hopes and dreams in a place where they'll never be like did you think link would be in soul caliber too no no but that but that but that's why it's like it could be anybody so like in the realm of anybody there's so much chance of it also not if trunks is not in you know what i mean like i'm trying to break this down because it seems like such an obvious concept on the surface but this is max's
Starting point is 02:13:27 fault because he wants the blood-borne hunter and now every now he's putting put the idea out there and now yeah in your fucking eye where i said this is max's fault and you're just like where the fuck is he going right you put the thought out there yeah like exactly that yes so kiri you did not show up in tecan seven is that god damn it that means son of a bitch that means tecan seven is the worst fighting game ever expectations have to be realistic it's awesome if it comes it's awesome if it comes but like what's expectations should be out one here you in that no it's no it's more like it's more like i think i want to see temper temper your expectations maybe i want to say that like it shouldn't be upsetting when the the guest that
Starting point is 02:14:22 could be anybody does not show okay but like let's say let's go back to soul caliber four and let's just say there's we don't even know if they were talking characters we don't even know if these two companies are friends to me even you know what i mean just get george lucas in here a little bit friend when you but when we're talking about soul color specifically dumb fucking star wars characters were in it yeah you would say to me that would never happen of course yeah but maybe behind the scenes those companies had a relationship that allowed that to be facilitated and you know what for a million it totally work because he was like oh i'm gonna damn cuz gonna make me a uh spawn game right and i was making figures for soul caliber blah blah blah so they had this weird
Starting point is 02:15:00 relationship that makes total sense why they had fucking are like i like why and yeah like why is trigun and mcfarland a thing that you overlap with each other that's white right but then you but but the backstory is oh yeah that makes sense right disney and fucking square oh yeah elevator ride all these things crossover shit is so awesome what if bash was in it's super soul caliber man i'm gonna be super angry i'm not making so much sense you're being too reasonable okay i'm sorry the problem is i'm sorry for being too reasonable if anyone say one certain character you will throw logic out the door and be like oh yeah that's what i want hey dude i spoke to this dude i know at capcom he tells me virgil's gonna be in the next soul caliber that would be red
Starting point is 02:15:45 oh no he canceled he's not gonna be in it okay no you're a liar that's a liar liar that's you hate soul caliber now that's honestly honestly like that that type of attitude is fuck this now it's that's perspective thing you can't be like no no if it's so irrational no but if it's canceled then you can be like fuck it if it wouldn't was never finding out the close shave yeah yeah yeah exactly that's what i mean right so like you don't know you don't know how close cure you came to being in tech and said no we don't and if you found out it was inches away then everyone gets pissed at tech and forever yeah but it was here again or sega but if you carry in blood blown blood born men are the silent hills if you never know though if you never know
Starting point is 02:16:40 it's just the ether that's fun that's fun fuck soul caliber uh bullshit never buy another i'll never play that series again i didn't start i'll never play it again dude watch watch the real thing happen when fucking tech and eight comes out and there are people go i'm an akuma main no akuma fuck you for tech and eight watch that happen for real wait when you said that this happens with smash if you take out your character people will be pissed and say fuck this game oh yeah there are there are snake players that are still furious i'm bummed that solomon grundy didn't make the cut sure i forgot about that happened to me i was bummed that that biking didn't make the cut and then she did eventually so blank up to make the cut eventually like three years you know that's
Starting point is 02:17:30 a thing it totally is and i mean quite frankly i still think there's a chance that akahiko might not make the cut oh he's not going to be in now it wouldn't have 50 characters it might you know maybe you know there's but like who's more popular than akahiko everyone a lot of persona characters are yeah so that's the whole thing is just like there's totally a plausible chance i i goes not in smash oh man anyway it's always going to be in the back of your mind it's always going to be there the gerald being in there is does make sense in the sense that like he replaces etzio and he's like everyone can enjoy that and he's a sword man from the past so sure yeah that on that basic hey you want to hear what gerald's fucking intro cutscene new his weapon master is somebody gave me a contract
Starting point is 02:18:15 to track down this cursed sword it's evil or something yeah very easy when does gerald's okay into the timeline does new game okay but then but then when he beats where soul calibur does yeah when he beats it's kind of like a reboot then like you see a card flips up onto the screen yeah and it's like a collectible card because it's like oh shit he banged i i doesn't do that anymore he doesn't get the cards no no he gets the cards for all the girls no that's which are one girl dude that's clearly which he gets no no that's the witcher that's what it is that's witcher he doesn't need the cards anymore here's your tacky card with his fucking card binder filled up okay get your wallet on this thing that i don't know what you're talking about i think woolly's right
Starting point is 02:18:54 there you go there you go every time in the original witcher every time you bang somebody you get a collectible card yeah of their art being like in a boudoir shoot yeah oh i knew i knew you'd bring a boudoir sex cards yeah i knew half naked woman has added to his bed who gets progressively more naked yeah and then gerald gives you dating advice yeah that's right gerald's like be a mutant that has infinite stamina and can't get dick disease did you know witchers have extra gas in their balls it's true speaking of swordmans um travestrikes again yeah man so i'm glad that the one time i ever just trailer for no more heroes uh travestrikes again which is the new uh not normal heroes traditional gameplay game no it's a spinoff yeah you're gonna say uh i was saying the one
Starting point is 02:19:44 direct i ever decided to stream i'm like it was for you it was it was the one but apparently some people saying this was leaked before the direct like oh they're gonna show no more heroes gameplay and i had no idea but uh i was really happy with with what i saw just because i'm like yep that's a spinoff type game stuff with seven different types of play there is a moment 21 seconds into this trailer that i don't know what i'm looking at it's the racing thing but i want to know more it's like this vector based mecca red line red um and the fact that it has co-op and you control bad man and i was like wait what you can bad man why why would he be like oh i know the setup i can kind of see it it's like how is it not we got sucked into this game together fine
Starting point is 02:20:33 i'll help you get through it but then we're gonna settle our differences i could have i was so surprised it's not henry and everyone just telling me that like oh yeah this boss design is by this artist that does like album art okay all these bosses which all look incredible yeah the only thing i'm worried about is like oh there's not a single woman boss that's a little weird there's one that's kind of cut off but they just look like a mech so i don't know it could be a woman piloting it or inside it i don't know am i alone on that though isn't isn't that weird that like it's not henry that you know that's the second player well i mean the story was like you killed my daughter so i'm gonna get revenge on you so that makes sense for a spin-off i'd rather have henry saved for like
Starting point is 02:21:15 if they do do like a storyline based no more heroes because bad man's a bad guy he's a guy you fight right but he's also the guy i'm gonna see like he's the okay the description they gave was like he's the the guy right he's your villain yours your beers you're due to fight but he's also the playable secondary character and i guess it's just like oh you would assume it'd be the twin brother maybe it's just a level battle a reason just to facilitate a second player co-op mode they're like oh well bad man's in it and he already has we don't have to make it like object maybe maybe maybe yeah uh but yeah i really liked i love that travis's special move is a t-pose it's great it's great and at first i was like no is it really i'm like yeah that's a t-pose they also
Starting point is 02:21:59 this is a brand new game they could have made him swing the sword in a way that looked like he knew what he was doing no but he continues to wave it around like an idiot with a way with a wimote which is what you are and they really de-emphasized all that like uh hotline miami shovel knight stuff from everyone from like oh he's gonna go to shovel knight world to now it's like they might appear on a t-shirt travis can equip i forgot about that they really like went put the brakes on that and was just like nope that's not what this is at all also dropping saves in public like that that's a bit uh a little much a little uncoof but yeah very happy with uh what what this looked like some people were like what the fuck it's well no it was never going to be normal heroes
Starting point is 02:22:42 three it was never called no more heroes three it's clearly a spinoff game the guest character trade continues as we're going to be getting an alternative time report for final fantasy 15 on march 14th just detailing noctis and tecan seven i thought it was going to be hey hachi and that works just as well that image just made i was like well what did i miss that would be fucking great the car is rolling out with the boys and fucking old men slam into hey that was a really good hey hachi thank you hey hachi wasn't pop team epic epic for some bizarre he was yeah yeah a lot a lot of people are wow with that uh yeah so anyway that i want to see where that's going to go with the with the move list and shit and maybe if we get lucky it's probably not going
Starting point is 02:23:33 to happen but wouldn't it be cool if like there's like little like team up buddy like special things you like strikers strikers yeah yeah or super no wait we saw a super we saw a super yeah i imagine i imagine costumes right maybe his stage his stage they'll be in the background stage background or like alternative costumes where you just dress up as them yeah so you do you call in the car or just one of them yeah you do you call in the car with all of the minute you call in the car and they're all in it and they throw you an energy drink and the nox and a cup noodle and no the cup noodles gotta be call though that's an example and the cup noodle wasn't assist he has a cup noodles he has a cup noodle on his back and you can pull it off and throw it yeah no um that cup noodle
Starting point is 02:24:18 shit man it's wild days gone has been delayed to 2019 huh days have gone by until 20 i mean days developing under ah fuck it you know go ahead go again go again you'll get there you'll get there the days of 2018's release of this game i've gone to 2019 what else do we have i have a big shrug to this because i'm i also have a big shrug you know what i don't have a move on from this story do you have the uh do you have the bioware news in here woolly uh i don't okay so you know drew carpitian no or it's carpitian oh yeah i actually i know i saw that but i i didn't think you guys would have anything on that i thought you'd have more on this woolly of course i would have stuff on the bioware shit okay so drew carpitian is the guy who wrote sorry
Starting point is 02:25:09 mass effect one and two he uh left very famously before mass effect three which um and uh he also wrote standalone mass effect books the first two and the third one was a trash fire that bioware had to apologize writer drew carpitian has left bioware for a second time he came back to work on anthem and then has left working on anthem which fuck so is this guy good at his job he's very good at his job he was he had to apologize for one of his novels no no they apologize for the novel by the new guy they got to replace him okay yeah that that was like wildly inaccurate and had all sorts of mistakes in it so so so what's the what on this story that this makes anthem look like it's fucking dire straight it's like it's like a girl going back into a relationship and then
Starting point is 02:26:01 immediately breaking it off again and then your ass like oh what was wrong like nothing was wrong the relationship was great well i know we keep hearing about the whole like it's over if anthem doesn't do well but doesn't like i don't know like does this necessarily casey hudson also went back to bioware and then left and casey hudson's the lead on follow the thought to the end i guess because i'm not really drawing the connections okay is it the idea that like if it was a successful really good thing there would be sequels and therefore they'd want to stick around no they're on my they're leaving it in the middle of development creative differences which is bad if if if high up staff just start bailing on a project does that look good to you especially if
Starting point is 02:26:45 they were brought in specifically for that project is it okay is it possible his writing job was done no not when it's a year away still not really okay i i hear away i i can't he would say that he's done with the project i don't think he'd say i'm leaving the company maybe he just hates the bio awareness what's the official state bioware is it a statement from him or is the statement from the company is a statement from him saying i'm leaving bioware hey i'm gonna go focus on this other side i know a lot of you are wondering why i'm doing this from any people working at bioware would be their dream job and they can't imagine anyone stepping away from it but it was time to move on everyone who works at bioware pours their heart and soul into the
Starting point is 02:27:26 games they're making it's creatively demanding and at times exhausting in the past i've managed to juggle outside projects with my bork at bioware but it always took a toll and there were always outside projects i had to pass on because they would represent a conflict of interest with bioware or ea properties so i made the decision to step back again and focus on my freelance work i'd love to say more about the stuff i'm working the novel i'm working on my graphic novel project but those details will have to wait a while and and so or maybe it's the reverse where it's like this might be so successful they want me to do three other games after this and no fuck that yeah but he could just well go on to read the next sentence of i'm sure people will read more into
Starting point is 02:28:01 the statement than they're really thank you i was about to actually yeah so i was about to say like i don't see how this necessarily points well i mean maybe well maybe this on its own feels like maybe a little but the fact that kasey hudson also bailed is really like granted good get out of here kasey hudson you're the reason why mass effect three is a trash fire but still like like two senior staff i think failing like this makes me think i think that this story in particular is not a where there's smoke there's fire thing but anthem on its own i think people are waiting like they're waiting for the corpse to roll out of the the ban the worry about the whole like we're done if this doesn't do numbers is is definitely like a pressure yeah the pressure
Starting point is 02:28:51 the pressure there must be it's a pressure cooker and that's like fucking unhealthy um well because it also reminds me of the stuff with destiny and it destiny's development where they had a writer leave in the middle of development and then they had to bring a new guy in rewrite the whole story and it ended up being a fucking mess you also had their music lead leave on very bad terms and which ended up with lawsuits about the soundtrack and the ost and stuff like that and as i think you pointed out uh uh some time ago like the success of anthem means bioware is now the anthem company which is not the bioware that the the uh non-success of bioware means the end of bioware so as you know so bioware is fucking dead anyway so fuck it yeah yeah it's just name hey anthem
Starting point is 02:29:34 still looks cool does it does it am i alone on this like what i don't was that footage not awesome it i don't think that footage was real the footage was real i don't think that's i feel so confused here i don't know what do you mean like it looked like a game that has some cool shit going on like and i'm like i would be excited to play this video game like vision like that looks like that i have in my brain anthem looks like triple a video game we're making i can smell the loot box stink coming from over the hill if i can if i can that's my impression of if i can fly an iron man my way with my friends into the water and then fly out and do some cool stuff let me let me uh maybe take a different tack on this sure as somebody who i'm open to that as somebody who has played
Starting point is 02:30:23 that genre over and over and over for years yes they showed nothing okay they showed you that you have a jetpack in that game yeah like your iron man and it's visually really good looking yeah right so when you say it looks good it's like but it you know like let me wait for the other shoot it let me take is the game let me let me take tell me what the game actually is let me take another take that then uh i liked the art i saw oh yeah totally absolutely it reminds me of when uh fuck do you remember this game rage got shown off you mean the first person yeah the first person shooter right in software you remember when that got shown off the desert game apparently yeah yeah exactly but like people thought it was gonna be like fallout it wasn't like fallout it was just an
Starting point is 02:31:09 id shooter okay like weird i like the art that i saw in that video then put it that if that makes more sense i thought that you know because like the the video we got wasn't even like a um wasn't even like a gameplay walkthrough it was the fucking ubi soft style like fake ass mission and like didn't they have people talking yeah that's what i mean the ubi soft style fake ass mission yeah that's what it was hey man go around the back i got all the loop uh fuck you that's not real i like jet packs i know you like jet packs i know you try to sell off a human race in xcom for a jet jet pack try to wear those he succeeded you watch the countdown playing my achievements motherfucker there was a countdown to your jet pack and at the end everyone died
Starting point is 02:31:57 and you sailed away into the night sure it did oh then again i sold out for a different reason but yeah with with with destiny and and fuck all that's a good reason with destiny and division and all those types of games just end up ending up being the same shit over and over like everyone looks at anthem and pretty much everybody is just expecting to be the same it's everyone's assuming it's a platform right like it's but i bet over an anthem they had some very frustrated meetings when the battlefront two shit was going down over the future of anthem and what that game was going to be i remain optimistic until i see reasons to be pessimistic about it two of the senior people left it has ea on the box right all right people might hate this
Starting point is 02:32:51 i remain optimistic parents left until i see that that jet pack is is surrounded by you have to buy the fuel for your jet pack is surrounded by like nothing else that i would that i would want well i should tell you that there are jet packs in warframe there your whole body is essentially a jet pack in warframe it's powered by your bulk yes welcome to my introduction to there being an anti-anthem vibe out there because i this is not at all i wouldn't say anti it's more like cautious pessimism though all i have in my brain was when that footage went out everyone was like oh shit what's this new thing oh fuck that was the thing and then at some point news stories so here's here's the vibe out there the sour and i completely missed that because i'm like i still thought that
Starting point is 02:33:32 thing looked cool the souring happened in three parts the big souring was battlefront where it just became like don't trust ea properties at any form of face value yeah that's the main thing and then part two a little was kasey hudson leaves for no reason and then part three was drew capricious leaves for no reason and you know it's like that makes you think internal pressure that they're getting from higher ups yeah i guess i just i haven't changed but i haven't but i haven't like like when we when we see some more you know you're going to get to make a more definitive and the fourth stand for flowing one is that game supposed to come out when this year got delayed next year next year but we still haven't actually seen yeah much of any none that's going to answer
Starting point is 02:34:14 everything but it's like that's it it's a whole lot of question marks but right now i'm like i hope those question marks are good you can understand why people might be hesitant yeah there's the especially in the wake of all the ea shit the extra stories that that pat just went over yeah yeah um so blue point has announced that they're making another remake of something we don't know what but it's bigger than shadow the classes we're able to say they're like they're asking this interview like don't you want to make like your own original thing and he's like yeah we could but we're making another remake i mean they're known as the remake company now and that's okay because they did a good job all right what's so
Starting point is 02:34:52 the game is bigger than that's kind of funny shadow man that's any game that has a world with inhabitants it's bigger it's had a sony game it came out on the playstation fair enough any world is a real story any world with npcs in it all right yeah that's bigger so the one that everybody seems to want is the one that's not gonna happen it's not gonna be demon souls guys it's that's not demon souls it's bloodborne make bloodborne run well yeah just get rid of the frame pacing issues is there even a remote chance that they would be re-releasing dark souls and then and then demon souls a year later absolutely there were would they actually throw out throw that out and like go for go to fight
Starting point is 02:35:40 go to go battle absolutely there was a rumor that a demon souls remake was in development yeah the beginning of last year but yeah i remember that i that'd be really interesting if if both companies just fucking went up to bat against each other did they say it's the souls franchise aren't they partially owned by say how much information is actually in the story they did the mgs hd right there i think they're independent i just kind of assumed i know it's safe to assume that then demon souls is out and then like they announced bloodborne two at the same time yeah they they they follow up on that that non-descript but uh from software teaser yeah they could even be making a nintendo one because like nintendo has been using a couple of development
Starting point is 02:36:24 house like there's a mare a bunch of americans that ported twilight princess but nintendo was the one that ported up win waker hd and and apparently one of them said well yeah we're still making something remastering something for someone yeah i'd say get off the sody train there's no hints of whatsoever about what it is you know and i'm looking at their job script like thing maybe someone can do some digging but there's no it could be ico it could be any information is ico bigger ico is not one no it has two moving characters instead and it and it's just the environment and uh so it's a shadow it's a bigger game yeah shadows bigger game maybe they'll be remaking last guardian yeah yeah it needs one yeah uh they're remaking heavy rain man that is such an
Starting point is 02:37:15 animal torture porn game out and i don't know what the fuck was going on there uh the the the folks oh man over at uh near automata have said there's one final secret no one has discovered in this game and then apparently it'll be bad news for people to find it so uh who knows what the fuck that is but if it's coming from the seph kilian school of there's one final secret in mega man nine it's like then you will never find out what that is like when ed boon was like oh yeah there's still shit mortal combat too it's always lame yeah it's always like i drew my dick in the code yeah or like we hid galaga in there nobody cares yeah yeah yeah but yoko taro's nuts yeah that's true that's the only so uh clems jumped on this real fast as you would expect and the big
Starting point is 02:38:12 thing that people seem to have taken away from it is that in the interview they say oh man there's there's this one last secret that no one's found and then the sentence before that is hey did you know that you can fuck the camera up and clip out of the world if you hold these buttons so like people are running around using the newly discovered camera tree they is that a bug no pressing the r3 button while holding the d-pad arrows which break the camera but felt near enough it would it was then it's intended okay they make it sound like an out of world object is placed somewhere so they like they they straight up just like you can move the camera anywhere you want with this shit it'll even go through walls and then they go by the way there's an extra secret
Starting point is 02:39:02 in the game that no so everyone's running around bugging the shit and the guy who does that boundary break yeah is going to be doing an episode on it soon oh man boundary break on uh dragon ball fighters was great he's probably gonna find something it is yeah and it's probably to be ludes it's a butthole no you know what it is just a butthole out of world it's it's it's floating in space it's a fucking it's a yoko taro model hanging out with a physical roar file it's just holding you the zip it's details of how to make it to the stage production of your hawk don't no it's a url i see the url i talk floating there too much to glimpse about that stupid stage play i don't want to hear you talk about it now fine it's awful it's awful you're gonna hear me talk
Starting point is 02:39:51 about something else of either of you or any of you heard of uh kimono michi no two no okay so there was a fighter five event and every once in a while something that happens that i i can call fighting games as art i think i think we both agreed that clockwork versus neo and marvel marvel two was a fucking incredible set yeah the best of all time for that game uh street fighter five just had one of those moments with a tokido versus daigo first to ten set that was fucking great and did gutek's throw a stick he did not and it's not just on the level of like it's not just on the level of like the way they play but it's also in love he has who bitch this is the band there was no who bitch this is but uh the backstory for both players
Starting point is 02:40:47 the the front story for both players you can make a j-drama based around like it is incredible right was this like a money match or was the so the the the the i'll try to summarize it really quick but the idea is that this daigo despite not winning any majors of of like recent import you know has remained a force in fighting games remained more than a force he still considered the peak and the reason why especially is because daigo is batman daigo with time to plan is like good fucking luck right and the idea here being that tokido the guy who won evo the guy who made second place at capcom cup the guy who could arguably be considered the best street fighter player in the world right now still feels inferior to daigo and wants to
Starting point is 02:41:36 know why okay and and so he challenges him to a set in with which he's going to see if he can finally finally cleanse this shadow ipo finally beat takamura it's a thing that's been looming over him the whole time uh-huh okay they're selling me a little bit on this right and he these are in his words as well right and so he eventually is he trains himself to the point that he feels absolute have have they ever had a match in a major when one knocked the other out yes tons of time and one tokido but the first to ten the long set is different okay it's a different it's an iron man match what you come out with and start beasting on me with for the first three games won't work after when i download that yeah you have nothing okay you can't i thought
Starting point is 02:42:32 maybe like they never actually met in a major not only have they met in a major they meet every major i god i hope i can fucking find it but um it's like how many times has john syna fought randy orton like 28 times like uh these guys are fucking like the gods of the fighting game community and what literally happened at evo was in between the the set where they both fucking well like had one game and then the other game they closed their eyes and meditated for the same amount of time and then reopened their eyes and hit the replay button and went into the final set it's fucking i'm not familiar with this but how long is the uh did they get like breaks in between these there is absolutely a break and there are rules about the break so first if he gets a little bit of
Starting point is 02:43:21 lab time or whatever in between okay okay no no lab time so there's let me get to that because there's rules of like when the break happens yeah there's a mandatory break after 10 games so you can't call it any point or whatever there's a point where they're like we'll take an intermission because they were they need to be playing at their peak which means the chairs the fucking monitors the tape everything was precise to their optimal optimal play because them going at it with each other is like uh more than a hundred percent you're pushing it to your limits to the max right um daigo like like tokyo talks about like you know he yeah like doing you've he's been doing nothing they've been doing nothing but preparing to fight each other for over a month now okay right
Starting point is 02:44:04 daigo especially to the point where like he knows like he knows characters the character that you're gonna fight more than you do is what he does and you can go back and um there's a twitter called high fight where you can read like the the the translations of the interviews with daigo afterwards about like how the match went and with tokyo afterwards and it's fucking awesome the levels that they went to to beat each other to fight and to play and like the match ends in tears physical like at one point where the person who loses is standing there and like holding it back and they can't because it gets that emotional um there's things that happen in the set where like you don't see this a normal fighting games like daigo starts doing a thing where literally he's
Starting point is 02:44:49 standing still as he's playing because walking back puts you out of a range you want to be at crouching widens your hitbox too much and any other thing you do puts too much of a risk as as to you getting hit by a certain button right so he just literally like let's go over the stick at points and it's the optimal thing every decision every moment everything that happens in this set is street it's fighting games at its peak and i really can't recommend it enough if you have any interest in the set okay so what was the money on it i have no idea oh his soul i don't know if there was yeah okay uh so it's a long asset it's about an hour and a half
Starting point is 02:45:33 what a dickwad thing to say whatever uh you naughty man it would go broke but uh it was just some excellent fighting game that was the most japanese thing ever and what pat said is the most american yeah yeah yeah yeah so um like is it like is like a a bet match where like after the match like if daigo loses he has to go like drown an old person at his work or something the the pre-match video literally presents this as the battle for the peak of the fgc yeah so it's honor it's all about honor and it's straight up like tokyo i have won everything but i still can't beat that man that you know like i like and that's that's what it is it's like and like the idea was basically here that like uh um tokyo winning
Starting point is 02:46:26 means that the era has changed in a way and okay fine i get it just does he have the trophy it's a good first attempt and i just wanted to bring oh yeah i bet it is i'm just like because it was really cool and the story for in the backstory and the front story are all it's like wrestling i completely i dude you're completely right that's all i got time like that like i have to do it for my pride is a fuck off you won you want to kito he unlocked a monster hunter costume at the end look look at this is reward look at your trophy and caress it but he never beat him in a i mean as someone that understands how and why clockwork versus neil was so good sure buddy like it was good because of the money what are you talking about
Starting point is 02:47:16 it was good because there was stupid money on it and people were gonna go broke when they lost you cannot understand this you have no honor in your soul you're an honorless dog if oh yeah if it was like oh yeah neil and clockwork are gonna have a big set of long matches because they don't like each other i forgot if some guy is about to like shoot a rocket at pat's mom or a pile of his money yeah you say that like viscant versus low tier god is not another hallmark see that excellent moment in history that had everything to do with pride see that's different hold your fucking tongue why that's different hold your fucking tongue no here's the thing that's different because that is that is some fucking trash fgc crap that all right back bathroom like okay woolly walk it back
Starting point is 02:48:08 daigo let's assume daigo why i don't know who won this right daigo is not gonna stand up and fucking yell at low tier god that maybe he's gonna be sorry yell at fucking tokyo maybe you'll be able to wash the taste of my dick out of your mouth that's not gonna happen there's not gonna be a fucking hip hop style pop off it was the equivalent in emotional like like like intensity in a japanese way like this i'll say that much there was a there was a worry if vaya wasn't there that like ltg might have like pulled a knife or some shit like that's awesome where's the pop off there the point complaining that there's not enough first of all first of all you don't know what that what the fight is or contains but second you just proved the point that without
Starting point is 02:48:58 the money it can still be an interesting thing between good people there has to be a villain there needs to be thuggery in japan how dare they have honor and soul i think ltg versus miscan works because there's a villain in the most in the most american way possible they're both villains and i and i feel christy versus uh uh uh what's his name sonic fox works because there's a villain like it who who's the villain there which one's the villain pat you get to pick right yeah yeah yeah he's like what the fuck is that you are the villain she's the villain no villains what the fuck are you talking about i'd rather see two villains fight because they hate each other than two heroes sonic fox right now is literally being photoshopped and then
Starting point is 02:49:42 re-rendered into pages of dragon ball as frieza and then as a biris the god that needs to be crushed the evil villain like what are you fucking like no anyway anyway um happy really just comes down to western storytelling versus eastern storytelling listen vegeta versus goku to prove their strength and it's like oh we're friends now that's boring one of them has to want to kill the other the problem was in the middle of the first to ten when someone got on social media and tried to change the world that's where the problem was that arc was full of you could see the blue aura spreading out from tokyo covering the earth let's take some emails hey we got some emails if you want to send an email send it to superbestfriendcast at gmail.com that's super that might sound something
Starting point is 02:50:30 no like pat being talked over in sandbags fuck you bitch it's super best friendcast to gmail.com like this all right well i got one that's really good for matt so i wait for him to get back hey matt what's up matt your first question how was your dump was it massive you can't hear you he's asked it matt ask matt plague asked you how your dump was it was it was adequate did it have like that grainy texture when it was come out all right so we got one coming in over here you didn't release any gas did you from Nathan from the front of the back hello natans Nathan says uh dare super best friends why haven't you mentioned the punisher war journal page where it looks like frank shoots a black family it was one of my favorite moments from the war journal collection
Starting point is 02:51:26 please let me know what your thoughts are all right do you recognize this is their context no i'm going to assume what's happening here is that there's a bad guy in the next panel that's behind the family so what we're seeing is a black family running in for their lives there's an explosion in their house then pusher kicks down the door and then the families turns to them and says oh no and then frank opens fire and the narration box over him says looks like i made it in time just after just a time after all i would i really need to see the next page because i'm not gonna sugarcoat it that looks bad that doesn't look too good frank that looks really bad that looks kind of rough but no but that's why i'm going for there's that cliche of someone going you're
Starting point is 02:52:19 betraying me and they have a gun on you and they shoot the person that was trying to kill you from behind so that's the only thing i can think of but that's as for why we didn't talk about it that's why we didn't talk about it because we saw it it's a reason why we didn't was that not it was that the issue we talked about on manly because it wasn't no so that was not that issue yeah there are other things worth discussing like how much of a dick superman is which yeah yeah good to hear about that oh man superman such a dick uh will dog says hey it's me super best why guys okay super meet uh it's cool to meet you guys at magfest uh kind of going off of uh willy's reaction to me saying uh you guys are a huge part of me buying pubg uh what that video i know wow was there a game
Starting point is 02:53:15 that was covered by some people that you wouldn't expect to cover something where it positively impacted your opinion of the thing yeah warframe today there's been no video sure yeah today we had warframe more than ever before in discussion and we looked at some footage and it looks like a like a warframe play i could understand why that would discourage you from playing warframe though yeah that no but i'm the type of person that when i get discouraged from playing something that makes me want to play it but the thing is that you can't you don't and for me you don't entice me by telling me how many screens and numbers and and think charts there are no in fact i i try not to tell you you entice me by getting me find out get me to the move list hey look you can do a big jump get me to
Starting point is 02:53:59 the move list do you know that monster hunter has a grappling hook that is like start to move list is what i want to to fucking experience um and if the move list is you buy them with proud souls okay fine yeah that was kind of weird but i but i can i still understand like the progression that you're that you're showing me and not necessarily like taking the thing you have and making it two percent stronger listen two percent is valuable that's one out of every 50 times it'll be better i i want i want the new swing that i couldn't do before not i want that more than the improved version of the swing iron oh yeah i didn't tell you about the fact that there's combo systems in the game and you can de-equip them and re-equip new ones like god hand you can change the stance
Starting point is 02:54:51 of your weapons your weapons have stances like god yeah yeah you can't do that you can just do the you can just do the big specials is what you can change you can't change your combos like absorber or am i forgetting that i don't know what you know what you want to make yeah he doesn't he doesn't know he doesn't play punchy kicky games um as for me like i can't think of anyone that would play a game that i didn't think that they would play or is atypical but like um derrick on uh stop skeletons from fighting like made me really interested in weird ports of games to to the point where now i'm like i wonder if this had any weird ports like like oh i really wish there was a cruising usa game on the gba that would have been cool and then i find out that there
Starting point is 02:55:37 was or like and now i'm really interested in all the different versions of spider-man games that there were more than i thought initially like i didn't know the psb had its own exclusive spider-man too that no other version has so his videos kind of made me go like whoa yeah there's like yeah we think we know all the ports but sometimes there'll be ones you like you literally had no idea there's always more there's always more somewhere uh are you willing to uh get into a no all right i am then we'll just move i will do nothing answer no i want to know there is a we'll take we can take uh like a couple more questions or you take one more lengthy one about um justified robo baby racism all right it better be a good one because it's long no oh the actual
Starting point is 02:56:31 yes it's about binary domain and the and the idea i mean you're the one looking at it right now what do you think it looks pretty long depends on your willingness to discuss the point they're completely biological robot racism against them is pointless and stupid all right well move on and it's based on the japanese idea of uncleanness due to the bomb and bloodlines and shit and thus makes no sense for western audience at all i'd say that's probably pretty accurate the guy who wrote it in is a genetics major okay good talking about genetics what does he know talking about genetics in terms of robo racism you've already he should apply himself and answer his own question if he's such a smarty pants yeah what's he asking us for she's uh he wanted
Starting point is 02:57:17 because we're racism experts well i mean i've studied all forms it's a casual pursuit and applied them okay you need the lab man we got one here from go go into some lab give us two shitty questions find the most garbage one avas says super best friends recently i was online shopping and i came across what something my something my uncle always wanted i then proceeded to show him uh filled with excitement because it was so cheap and then he gave me the money to purchase it after two weeks waiting for arrival i was excited because i got first dibs to mess around with it it turned out to be a bootleg version of what i ordered i felt like so much shit because i basically went for to buy him a legit
Starting point is 02:57:58 version and made it up to him have you guys ever bought a gift online either for yourself or someone else that turned out to be a lie how did you go about fixing it so have you ever been a grandma buying the uh Brazilian version of a movie the we you draw tablet bundle i have never bought a bootleg by accident i've always bought them on purpose like because i think it's hilarious uh i bought a bootleg of the korean animation film wonderful days because there was no other way to get it well i mean but like when when when i feel like the tone of bootleg here is a physical item that is clearly wrong like bootleg stuff twitter i bought uh i the first first time i ever bought like a spare apple charger i didn't know that there were bootleg versions of it so i saw the
Starting point is 02:58:47 thing and i was like yeah okay and then it was like no it's bullshit doesn't work i got one i got a weird leg thing that the person apologized for when we realized how bootleg it was i never got uh anybody bootleg gifts yeah i've never had that experience the whole thing that really applies would one time accidentally got one of those stupid packs that has like half of a season of something in it instead of the full season that's the worst because i wasn't paying that much attention why do they even sell that i got a it was um it was like region eight dvd subs of fucking um cowboy bebop that were the worst subs i've ever seen where it's like like vince let's go to a mars sure yeah like that and and the person was like i i it said all
Starting point is 02:59:41 english like i bought it online i i thought and then we're just watching like it got to the point where it's like i the the one person in the room that hadn't seen cowboy bebop was like what's going on yeah the uh the of course the the fucking um do not want star wars bootleg which you can widely available at like pacific mall i feel like do not i feel like do not want like overshadows some of the way dumb or shit like the name of it being backstroke of the west or um yeah do not want us too much every single instance of jedi being changed to presbyterian church like that's new to me oh you you guys i went through no no no i definitely went through the source on it and and just i forgot i combed that shit for hilarity there's so much in there
Starting point is 03:00:29 there was a really good one of uh batto saying something completely nonsensical in ghost in the shell i think it was from innocence you'll never find it yeah it was a it was a fucking class probably too good yeah no well that's gone oh well it's a good story one time i saw something funny what was it i don't know well the hope is that someone else remembers it and then sends it in and then we get to do that that's a power plague our power is to say half finished thoughts and then someone goes oh yeah no someone just says you're wrong but i guess that's only me we present the idea of entertainment it's up to the viewer it's complete that thought it's a it's a fucking performance art piece everyone has to do a little bit of work to get the form here's your
Starting point is 03:01:13 homework it's called it's called figure out what funny thing well he's talking about interactivity yeah it's not so funny we do the crowd it helps with audience attention to get people involved in the mystery of you have to help with jokes too yeah the audience is part of the process you'll all laugh if you find me the joke and then and then they give you a really funny joke that wasn't the one you were thinking of you're like yeah that it was that was that one that's what i thought of it was me and then we get paid serastopher says dear mysterious entity that reads these letters to woolly i was recently talking with a friend about the elder scrolls and todd coward songs from the new asian sky rick you forgot about Todd coward didn't you you forgot about Todd
Starting point is 03:01:56 coward don't believe Todd coward's lies but wait i thought you said new games no i said new names names for all these skyrim re-releases oh man for an unforgettable skyrim luncheon oh man all right so what's the question uh you joked that the next elder scrolls game won't be sent in new won't be sent in a new province and won't even have elder scrolls in the title but will in fact just be called skyrim 2 so i don't remember that so i was wondering what is the most dire example of something being ruined by its own popularity oh well i don't want to say dark forces because it got better yeah plague's gonna say dark souls no it's ruined by its own popularity uh what was ruined by its own popularity um tuba's friends play oh
Starting point is 03:02:58 jokes on you we were never popular oh every time it's a t it's not the slowest growth on the internet i want to i want to well i'm not far behind when you use the t and not the s you know they hate woolly um is it kind of hard to answer because there's things that were ruined in the sense of the fandom became toxic oh i've got one like well yeah yeah so i don't want to say anything where it's because the because the fandom became toxic but the thing remains good because like you anytime it gets annoying like you're undertaker you're after seven over saturation the source material is still good um so i'm gonna say something where the material itself went bad that's what i think too right where the material itself went bad i'm gonna say a vangelion
Starting point is 03:03:48 oh yeah that's a good one young genesis a vangelion i'm gonna say mass effect fit here or was it or is it slightly different it's popular uh it's not so much because it was popular is more like no it's because it wasn't more popular enough so they kept more popularizing it i i know that's a good answer i'll take that i'm gonna say oh god i just had it uh oh yeah i'm gonna say warcraft like warcraft was popular and then war the warcraft was hyper popular as a brand or the game series all warcraft but what do you mean in terms of like if you describe it as being a good series do you mean that this gameplay went down or yeah i mean because like one two or three years still fine right warcraft ruined warcraft forever because it was so popular
Starting point is 03:04:37 that it was not allowed to die ever okay yeah warcraft came war world warcraft came out in 2004 guys it's fuck yeah right now when you talk about the whole like penetration thing with warframe like uh i forgot whose tweet it was where it was like if you start if like if i were to go start wow now yeah it would be the most baffling jump between quality years and garbage years back to quality years i was talking to somebody about this and it's like they remade all the old zones and cataclysm right and then they made new zones in this and it's like you are you are literally jumping between 2012 and 2010 and 2009 and then 2014 like per level and it's wild it looks rough it's fucking crazy in conclusion the scots ruined scotland yeah damn scots and the irish never
Starting point is 03:05:24 did anything cool i said that at some point what's coming up what's coming out yeah yeah nothing uh are we doing no what are we doing anything no nothing are you serious nothing's new nothing's nothing's no there's no new for us are you all done with a one-off on our channel i mean we have one more bad bad one off is the one that we recorded yeah yeah why oh that's a two off it's so bad is there so it's not a mystery box not when but like could why is it that when one-offs show up it's it's called filler now because it's filler because it's literally filler in between the next get back to the main arc but it used to be just a normal thing that was done all the time all right yeah show me super miss friends stupid and at some point we did less one off i have i have an
Starting point is 03:06:16 answer for you and it's your fault okay it's your fault ever since you introduced Naruto to this channel you have introduced the filler arc okay see hi jinx and side plots that don't have anything to do with the main plot or main arc used to be the norm but now whenever they show up uh oh it's filler because you know they're just buying time until they think of the next story and now that the ages are a thing as well right where we definitely can't yeah okay and also for real one offs are straight up actually filler it is there is too much time there's too much time before the next one to do a long game there's not enough time to do a short one before the long one but that's not always true and most of the time for me that's definitely that feels like it's not the case at all
Starting point is 03:07:05 or it's like a lot of the time there's one off where i definitely am like let's look at this thing that's a cool game that we should look at doesn't make a filler we spent a lot of time will always fall back to back lps and we missed these incredible four or five games yeah let's give them their due very quickly and in fact again once upon a time it used to be like like past it would be constant right like and it just became less and less frequent but then we'd miss the chance to take a look at a lot of cool games so yeah i don't know i don't i don't see it that way hold on hold on hold on you're taking filler is necessarily negative it doesn't necessarily mean negative it just means it's not part of the core plot or you have filler it tends it tends to come at me come at me in a
Starting point is 03:07:48 negative yeah because of your goddamn Naruto shit no because it's like i want to know what happened on co-tour and it's like i'm waiting to see what happened in co-tour exactly that's exactly what a filler episode is okay and i guess i'm just more along the lines of like it it was always there the filler episode is good hijinks that's fine most of cowboy bebop is filler yeah that means there are other channels out there they're like cowboy bebop our channels are my favorite parts of cowboy bebop i don't even really like the Naruto channel now i just i just hope people are not or not those people in particular because i know it's obviously not majority are not like god damn it a new thing fucking alboy god damn it like because it's a cool thing i want pockets yeah like you're here now
Starting point is 03:08:32 so we we're gonna do the fucking monster hunter back up sure now you're in high rank like a proper badass but it's but it's like it's and it's like if we if we you know it's like if you stop doing if we continue doing it it would just be the norm yeah so we stop doing it and then we start doing it again and it's like yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah the important thing is to never you didn't answer my question what is the question what's coming what's coming out oh what's coming up we got more Kotor we got uh the one of the shittiest one-offs ever yeah it's bad look forward to that bad filler it's fun but that game is filler that game is filler as fuck that game is terrible what is it filling it's filling a ball sack full of gas yeah basically it's trash um we got uh we got dead to
Starting point is 03:09:16 rights coming up some fun cuts upcoming i figured those out by the way oh yeah figured out how to stop all that what was why how i'll tell me okay because fuck some cuts some deep cuts coming my phone was ringing for a while when we talked about that in in the episode i'm like woolly must be laughing his ass off because i look at my phone and on my phone it says woolly has seen this and it's the fucking 35 edits that we asked billy to make for that episode well that's cuz i was abroad and had to fucking mute my shit because it was like what is going on back to rights needs cuts all right are you playing a game that has resolution changes between no no we're playing a game that has uh varying levels of difficulty from moment to moment uh per encounter
Starting point is 03:10:04 per encounter difficulty is highly variable yeah uh we got uh yeah so i said kotor we got dead to rights we got more what-offs meanwhile they're gonna record the one uh another monster hunter video simple yay wait boo no man monster hunter now i played monster hunter for three days and then i haven't gone back to it oh he hates it is it because it's not no i don't hate it it's just one of those things where you kind of have to keep the ball rolling and monster hunter well luckily they're gonna announce more dlc uh tomorrow night i think did you see that walls seriously you didn't see it you didn't see it okay devil joe that was hot no yeah and also the stuff that's going to be coming in the update
Starting point is 03:10:51 sure no that was very disgusting as for me on my channel i will not be releasing anything if you do yeah we'll get taken down yeah that's true i've released lots of things but it gets taken down every day people just don't notice yeah no place cranking out tons of content guys i mean jesus not fast enough you just can't see it but the the next thing that i released will probably be the animation well it starts from like dark's old shitpost or whatever uh but the next thing is going to be the animation but it's going to take a while to get done it's i can't remember how many frames exactly it's like 4 000 frames or something so that's a really long attack not really it's like two and a half minutes or something that's my math my math no good there but yeah it's
Starting point is 03:11:35 something uh so that'll be the next thing it's going to take a while like i said got scene one done today but there's like 30 or something seen so it's gonna take a while this animation always does other than that no no sagas for you but other than that i might do something else depending on if other people can stop being sick yes but we'll see about that yes like everything it's always woolly's fault oh shit woolly stopping things from coming out on plagues channel my immune all this goddamn filler in my channel my immune system is technically stopping things yeah yeah well at least it wasn't a horrible ant that bit your leg out this time it was just the flu you never know what could have given him the flu it could have been a bug it could have been a
Starting point is 03:12:19 bad shot yeah that's why they say oh looks like you've caught the bug yeah oh that was good uh unfortunately plague that might have to at least wait even if woolly's set to go that like might have to wait another week because i'm going away on a little family vacation with liana's family so you are going to die next week that is true i might um but all i so i'll miss the podcast by like probably a few hours i think we're coming back monday night don't get your face bit i won't uh but then after that we can finally do the thing for you plague yeah i mean elie sorry six years i could always do something with uh pat yeah you could bitch i could is there anything coming up normally versus uh this week no i mean
Starting point is 03:13:12 i mean you can't you can't correct me because i know the answer and it's no he could he could have something waiting in the wings and he could he could do a lot of things came out the other day and he could call the video fuck you elie i mean plague that's content elie that really hurts you woolly's trying his best elie oh man if you stop filling up your fucking schedule so much shit woolly's like exercising like some sort of animal listen not not everyone has the ability to just sit all day talking at the walls in the farm elie why not you could do that actually i have been exercising more than there is an unlisted video that uh is sitting there yes yeah see you can hit that button at any time when that's ready i've i've gotten a video editor for
Starting point is 03:14:04 another video that's in the process of being cut together and i have the script for a third video also open up in a tab right next to that that i'm writing and it's a very long script now how are we talking well plans are not content i know that i know that i know no no no he's right being a shit right i love being a shit he's so he's never been more right than than this in this moment he was really asshole he is super right i say that no i say that because that's what my shit is too so i know that well the videos are coming out on matt mcmuscle's channel uh tonight is tonight is my commentary on mortal common annihilation with mafio uh wednesday is a one off with liam oh man that's a lot of stuff i have a look of demolition girl on the ps2 oh wow
Starting point is 03:15:03 which never came out in north america it'll probably be great oh man that's super cool well that's a lot of videos matt yeah that's super rad uh you're gonna be streaming anytime this week man i know because i'm gonna be gone oh yeah that's right okay i won't be streaming either oh you're not gonna stream either i'm here neither will you pat why am i not you'll promise to stream you'll promise to stream and then you won't do it i have streamed almost every time that i promise to stream i just usually that is a lie you i will fight you i will go to your lying tweets and i will see you will see it i only put a cute cat picture under that oh yeah i love cute cat pictures i put up some myself now okay i might stream over at angriest pat i don't know what
Starting point is 03:15:46 or i might stream over at peace alive because we're doing undertale now and that's actually a lot that's true the chat are a bunch of concepts you would expect so none of us are releasing any content is the answer i'm gonna release my fucking ball gas in your face i was about to say should we end on another ball gas i um yeah or belza geese or whatever the fuck that we never determined whether or not once the gas hits the air if it turns into p yeah it turns into a piss piss because if you if you grab your zipper you know the zipper that all boys are born with on their bullets of course then unzip it does the piss just rain down or is it like gas and then it turns into a tiny storm
Starting point is 03:16:26 cloud that rains but what happens but then but if you pop it with a pin then then what happens oh what happens is you know when you know when you step on a bag of chips yeah yeah that's what happens okay but like does all there's a pop and then you realize there's nothing inside fly as soon as oxygen makes it yeah it does oh then your balls get really full that's true liquid piss no it falls out now but it's a pinprick yeah it blows open because like you step on a bag of chips yeah it's very much stored in the blood oh i thought it would be like because you'd let the hole of air in and now all the air is going in no no no and then it all liquefied pressurized the balls are under pressure all the time pressure that's why you got to keep the zipper open a
Starting point is 03:17:12 little bit sometimes yeah it's just a little bit so yeah like letting the air out of a balloon so it doesn't pop is scary goodbye elie goodbye that's why this that's why your girlfriend has a squeaky voice when i never mind her run wow bye you just you just we'll bail you out of that one we'll bail you out okay all right goodbye goodbye oh oh uh um
Starting point is 03:20:33 you

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