Castle Super Beast - SBFC 240: Grind your Party Member's Kids

Episode Date: April 3, 2018

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We're just going to explode back on the scene. Yeah, this is the start of the real podcast. There's no one's going to explode in exploding. Exploding. Are you exploding now? This was the original T-Poser. You have to tell me when we've exploded. We've exploded and we're banned.
Starting point is 00:00:27 We should be back right now. Oh, wow. Yeah, we're banned because of Matt's disgusting T-Pose shit. Yeah. Yeah, way out of line for us. All right. All right. So let's start the whole fucking gimmick over, man.
Starting point is 00:00:40 I feel rested and excited and chipper, Matt. You look great. How you doing? I didn't do too good. All that, but you still look great? At 4 a.m. I woke up and my thumb bumps hurt. So I just got up and went to the living room and I watched videos for like two hours. You look great and like you could do a great podcast.
Starting point is 00:00:58 I'm hopeful. Hey, man. How are you doing, Willie? I'm hungover. What? Yeah. So let's try that. You were really pumped about getting that Jesus back today.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Huh? You just couldn't wait. You were so excited. Were you observing yesterday? Yeah, you were observing. Let's go. Observing the alcohol going down your throat. You said, I'm going to get drunk and sit by the big cave and wait.
Starting point is 00:01:19 Well, the problem is it wasn't even, it wasn't even that much. It was just that you get involved. Right next to you, ready to sketch. It wasn't even that much. The problem is that it involved like mixing, right? So it involved like wine and holy water. You know what that resulted in for me? And so on and so forth.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Remember the first WrestleMania 2 that we recorded, which was like the one where you're Jericho and you're walking around backstage and I was responsible for mixing my own shit. And that was a video that the next day when I was editing, I'm like, I don't remember this video. Who recorded it? No, I'm bad at mixing. You were there. You were there.
Starting point is 00:02:04 I sure was. Was I? Yeah. So I mean, if you're doing things and trying to keep the sugar low, then you got to pretty much deal with like more straight apparatus, you know, and less like fruit blends and sugary things. See, I'm trying to dodge that entirely. Less fruit blends and sugary things because that doesn't make me more like drunk or hung
Starting point is 00:02:24 over than anything else, but it does make me more sicker. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So like, no thanks. But, but in any case, I don't drink anymore. So that problem solved for me. All right. Well, there's other vices.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Yeah. Like this Red Bull. Mmm. Delicious Red Bull. Mmm. Absolutely no consequences. Yeah. Well, the Red Bull doesn't give me fucking gout arthritis.
Starting point is 00:02:49 Hey, that's nice. It doesn't even give you wings. They had to stop doing that. Yeah, because it was stupid. They got fucking sued by idiots. Yeah. But yeah, no, that's that's a yay, not not worth it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:01 Yeah. Yeah. And what was it was worth it at the time? Yeah. Did you have fun at the time? Oh, no. No, I was going to have fun at the time. I was going to give everyone our annual reminder as a tech note for everyone that.
Starting point is 00:03:19 One thing you want to do if you're if you're recording in in any way, shape or form with it with your computer is every time your windows updates, it automatically like changes all your settings and undoes things, including noise suppression and switching to the microphone on the camera or whatever like secondary device. So every every extra device that you've disabled and turned off and all the orders get switched around, all switched back to their defaults. So every time your computer updates itself, be aware of that. It's only Windows 10.
Starting point is 00:03:51 I don't remember that happening when we didn't have Windows 10. I do. Yeah. It wasn't as bad because the noise suppression feature like a new feature. It is a new feature. It has to be. We only started to encounter it when we had Windows 7 really on PCs. And it's and it's always that's it's that second layer of problems where it's like the
Starting point is 00:04:08 first layer is, oh, no, it's not using the microphone. It's using the laptop mic, right? Which is the wonderful wonderful or in this case, like, oh, no. It's using the mic the microphone on the camera and then you disable that you drop back to the correct one. And then it goes, oh, no, the correct one has this extra layer of garbage filter on that took a while. Is that there?
Starting point is 00:04:28 Do you remember that? It's just a check box. What's what purpose does it's there so that you don't peek? It's it's Windows version of like stopping your your way for awful. It's a really bad one because there's ways you can do that. Do you remember that? But it's to stop your it's to stop your waveform from hitting the edges first recording that we did.
Starting point is 00:04:45 I forget what the actual recording was, but where me and Matt were recording some LP and discovered this wonderful feature. And we're just like, why does this sound like shit with the good microphones? We were using a Yeti at the time, I think, and I was like, oh, it's good, but it's clearly not the wrong way. We thought it was that we thought we were using the laptop mic. We thought that's what was happening and no. And that was a fun one to find out and figure out when it was just one thing was like an
Starting point is 00:05:10 old shit storm. Digged. It was shit storm. And just dig through settings. Yeah. Just find the bad button. Well, no. Well, hey, we'll we'll save we'll save every entrepreneur some trouble right now and literally
Starting point is 00:05:23 tell you to go to the recording. I'd say anyone that does a podcast devices regularly would have encountered this by now of your computer. Yeah. And then go to the properties on your microphone and then go to enhancements and noise suppression and check that. Why would I want to suppress the noise coming into my microphone? It's like out of control how stupid this thing is because it's a it's a button there for
Starting point is 00:05:48 like, oh, no one does like post processing on their own audio, right? So let's have this boot in there for people to press. Listen, this this but this button right there. Do not hit that. Oh, my God. Don't touch that shit. Don't do it. This button is the also don't form any beams.
Starting point is 00:06:07 No, it is forming the next button. It is the goddamn audio recording equivalent of that fucking garbo motion smoothing that fucking runs on TVs in the showroom. Yeah. They go, look how much I did, but I'm not going to fuck with it. Look how much better it looks. And everyone and like idiots are like, oh, yeah, it's so smooth. And you're like so smooth.
Starting point is 00:06:28 No, man, that looks like shit. Yeah, they think they're doing a good, but they're doing a bad speaking of peeking. I like the amount of down jumps. I've seen us from Kevening chaos of down jumps. Yeah, that's a bad one. Oh, boy. That was a true SMS right there. Yeah, it was.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Yeah, we're curious because and the Cruise Brothers one added like that was just all that's going on. Yeah. But what I mean is having Cruise Brothers the week before added some fucking drama to Kevening chaos because people were like, oh, well, they played a shit game last week, but it ended up being super cool is that no. Have we ever played one where we're like, oh, yeah. And then it's like shit and we turn it into a scrub lords.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Yeah. I don't think so. Marvel. Have we ever played a game where we were hyped for it? A fighting game for like Fist of Cuffs that we turn it into. I feel like Toshinden probably went worse than we expected it to. No, I think that was always a scrub lords smash think. But Toshinden is fondly remembered for it's be for for coming out at the time and being
Starting point is 00:07:37 like, you know, like the first one and influential, but it was really just OK. I like the second one. I did some art for it. I like the second one, but I actually don't like. We treat it like not shit. The anime one. Remember the anime one that was on the we were like, fuck that one. And then.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Oh, yeah. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right.
Starting point is 00:08:03 No. Dead rise and chop to your drop. We make. R.A. Ford doesn't count. That's just support. Yeah, we've definitely have done that. We've definitely had. I don't remember us going hyped into a fighting game and then we're like, oh, that's this
Starting point is 00:08:16 is shit. And then we changed it to a scrub words. That's that's the title switch. Yeah. We've only done that in the way we excited for cross-tacking. No, but you were you were excited for my mods. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:31 That's what it was. See, that's. Yeah. That was the game. That's a different. I fucking learned how to mod shit just to get that going. Yeah, man. Just to give us.
Starting point is 00:08:39 I remember. Save the video. I remember really yet. Yeah. I know having fun playing that fucking orange team and smoker into that. I had so much fun. Did you have Predator Blanca? I might have.
Starting point is 00:08:50 I don't remember. You had. I had Punisher. I had Punisher in there. Punisher is a brand for you. I think it was Cody. That makes sense. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Hair matte. Do you love together? Hmm. Would Punisher shoot Cody? No, because has Cody killed anyone? Is he? Is he? He's a convict, but like Cody is a violent criminal.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Yeah. But he's a vigilante as vigilante. He needs to sell drugs and kill people. No, Batman would be okay with Cody and Punisher really wasted his time. Punisher would probably be okay with Cody. Okay. I'd imagine. He only got locked up for beating the bad guys too hard.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Would Punisher shoot an old grandma selling weeds to the kids? Is weed illegal? Pseudo illegal. Okay. It's kind of legal now. For every story I've read. Are you standing in Colorado? Yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Every story I've read, weeds never mentioned, probably because most Marvel writers are smoking it at the time. Yeah. They probably are aware that they would get shot by the character they're telling the story. Yeah. If we change it to something even dumber, would Punisher shoot an old grandma buying cigarettes and then giving it to her nephew who's 12, who wants cigarettes?
Starting point is 00:10:10 Now. What country are they in? The U.S.? Remember. That's illegal there. The old lady that's in the game and in the comics, Ma Genucci, he throws into the jaws of a polar bear. So that solves 50% of your question.
Starting point is 00:10:25 I will kill a grandma. Would he kill an old lady? Yes. Okay. Well, his thing is like the severity of the crime, isn't it sort of like if you're abetting someone that murders or if you're like aiding or hiding or complicit in a way, you get murdered too. Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Or not like roughed up, like tell me where he is, but it's like an actual just informant like someone that was complicit. I don't know if that would result in him killing him. I always go back to the conversation we had. I don't know if it was on camera, but it was like five, six years ago, and it was like, what does Punisher do once he's killed all crime? Does he just start blowing? The final bullet is for himself.
Starting point is 00:11:04 What does he just start blowing? People away for jaywalking? No, no, no, no. How many stories have fed that thing? There's a story where it's in the future and he's like, old man, like old man Logan type thing. And he's like, yeah, I'll just kill myself when I'm... Final bullets for me.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Because he's a huge, big crime person. Yeah. I don't know if it's accurate or not, but I assume that like from what I can tell, I've always been shocked by how he's super willing to blow away people that are... If you're friends with a murderer, you're done. But if you directly commit a violent crime, you're probably okay. No? Will he kill you for that, for not violent crime?
Starting point is 00:11:39 I don't think so. Well, he'll beat your ass and like drag you around, but will he actually shoot you for fucking... The least amount is like, if you sell drugs, your drugs have to be a drug that has a body count associated with it directly due to the drug. Okay. So if you sell cocaine or if a bunch of club kids die on X, well, selling drugs to him is like you're killing kids.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Well, only if the kids are dying. So that's like... But selling weed to kids... That's not the crime... I mean... That's not the kind of crime I would throw in. Does he kill someone that sells alcohol? Right.
Starting point is 00:12:14 No. Is... He drinks it. Is Frank gonna go to the CEO of Laramie Cigarettes and just blow him away for... If you steal someone's wallet out of their back pocket, is he gonna shoot you? Yes. No. If you stab, if you pull a knife out and hold them up with the knife and then take their
Starting point is 00:12:33 wallet from them with the knife out, is he gonna shoot you? Yes. Shoot? I still don't think so. I think because I think... Broad daylight? Like a mugging versus like a pickpocketing, I think is the difference between whether to punish or to kill you or not.
Starting point is 00:12:46 That's what I... I want a punisher that is just like... Just... Judge... That's just a Judge Dredd. Judge Dredd? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Oh, but no. Didn't Norman Osborn make him like a Judge Dredd? No way. He was trying to kill Norman Osborn. You mean when he got his Iron Man suit? Yeah. Oh, like right now he is! Oh yeah, he's Iron Man now.
Starting point is 00:13:09 No, he's War Machine. War Machine suit. Which seems like the best, worst idea ever. Well, like if one character deserves to be called War Machine. Yeah, I guess so. It's not... Rhodes isn't even a War Machine! Oh man.
Starting point is 00:13:22 He's kind of a nice guy. He's kind of an upstanding dude. Cody's pretty laid back on us. Cody's a War Machine! Yeah. Yeah. We're talking about... We're talking about the Udon Comics and just like what were the best things and the
Starting point is 00:13:33 best things was Seagat learning from Dalsim and being like, I'm not gonna beat Ryu with this shit because it's 2-O-P. It's 2-O-P. And of course, Cody destroying Ryu without really even looking. He's still cuffed and he's just... He's talking smack while it's happening. He's like, yeah, you're pretty good I guess. Like criminal upper, something I learned in my backyard.
Starting point is 00:13:57 It's gonna be interesting to see what they do with him. Dude, it's the... Ryu's just like, oh, I've done all my training and I'm like, oh, I'm using my magic. Hard of battle and whatnot. I'm gonna throw a fireball and Cody... Throw some rocks. No, I think he cancels it out with like... The criminal upper is just a tight body uppercut that he's doing so hard and it just fizzles
Starting point is 00:14:23 the Hadoken out and it's like, yeah, okay. Okay, Willie, three, five, five. Yeah, well, it's been 10 years and we're finally gonna get another piece of Cody lore. He needs to maintain composure because he's clearly in office or owns business, whatever. So I'm always trying to hold back. But he's never... Beholding back what? Boredom?
Starting point is 00:14:45 No, I'm trying to hold back, decimating all of these clowns. But he decimates clowns because he's cut of boredom. Yeah, but he has responsibilities now. Honestly, I have an idea for Cody's Speed Trigger and it's... I'm just guessing. Phil Traverson is in his fucking suit and all cool and shit. Does he wear a tie? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:10 He's wearing a tie. Okay, great. Here's his V-Trigger. He has a completely new regular stance, like a very laid back Cody stance. He doesn't have his shootboxing kind of look and the V-Trigger animation is him loosening his tie a little bit and he goes back into his old stance and that's it. That'd be fun. That'd be fun.
Starting point is 00:15:34 I think it's just going to be Cuff's style because it's the most iconic of them. Dude, he can't wear Cuffs as the mayor. I know, but it's like from the way his animation sort of showed him holding them. It's symbolic, but I think they might actually make it a little... The V-Trigger makes a bunch of knives fall from the sky and litter the floor. Some unknown like battle god. No, no. I got it.
Starting point is 00:15:57 I got it. Okay. Woolly. Let's say it's Cuffs. If you reverse it, his V-Trigger is he puts the Cuffs back on. That's what I was saying. He pulls the Cuffs out and puts them back on. And goes, okay.
Starting point is 00:16:10 We're doing it old school. Yeah. I actually got really good at this. Maybe. Maybe. You want to feel fucking old? No. Well, too late.
Starting point is 00:16:20 You're going to feel fucking old. My birthday's this month. I don't want to feel old. Solid Snake, old Snake, MGS4 GIF right now, right? The initial arcade edition release of Street Fighter 4 was 2008. That was 10 years ago. Oh, it was 2008. The console was 2008.
Starting point is 00:16:36 It's been a decade since Street Fighter 4. I've got one for you. I was talking to people about, talking to people Warframe and about how I play with the controller and out of my keyboard. And I said, well, back in the day, when I played Day of the Feet, I used to be way better with my keyboard than I am now. It's a skill that you, like, no, that wasn't that long ago. That was only like 15 years.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Oh, man, that was 15 years ago that I played Day of the Feet more even. I don't really have the, you know, the point is that I was like, oh, that was like a couple summers ago in my head. And then it was like, no, not at all. That was decades. That was decades ago. I'm old enough to measure things in decades and that sucks. I mean, it's, it's just, it's weird to think, oh yeah, fighting games came back and then
Starting point is 00:17:29 it's been 10, you know, since that happened, since we're back. Fighting games have been back for about as long as they were as long as they were dead. That's what I was about to say. And it was, it was, it's, I mean, except for deception and deadly alliance. Yeah. You're right. Yeah. But those were the deadest fighting games of all.
Starting point is 00:17:45 The, you mean holding down the entire FGC? Yeah. Yeah. Holding it down, pushing, pushing our faces into the dirt with stance switch combos of the worst order. Custom, custom, custom fatalities. Yeah. And yeah, stance switch buttons that don't do anything.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Dude. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not talking about that shit. I'm talking about, hey, start. No, style branching combos. Start in your style switch. Yeah. No, it was stances.
Starting point is 00:18:12 They were called stances. They were just called styles. Were they? Pretty sure. Fuck. Like going from Jeet Kune Do to Winkai and Jeet Kwan to, to knife. To Bagua. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Oh, my God. That's your biggest combo. He starts in this one stance. You know what everyone loved about the, the Mortal Kombat characters, those, those weapons they pull out. Fuck. That's why we got into those characters. That was MK4 started that.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Yeah. But like, but like, but. So when you play and takes out some fucking Fred Flintstone club, like the, or the ornate like some zero sword that we all came to know, it was like, it was like an icicle sword with like all these, it looks like a warcraft sword. Why are you pulling out your toy accessories? Oh man. That would have been great.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Like a promotion. If they had an action figure at the time, you want to talk about feeling old. I was talking to some friends of mine the other day about fucking world of warcraft and then all the dumb new shit in the expansion. I'm like, oh man, that game came out in 2004. Wow. That's so old. Wow was 2k4.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Yeah. Yeah man. Hmm. Winner of 2k4 came out fucking. It's like a year after warcraft. 14 years ago. Warcraft came out 2000. Never mind.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Warcraft 3 came out. That's a fucking successful video game. Oh yeah. When you really just stop and like put it all together. In like 50 years from now, when people talk about MMOs or whatever, wow is going to be this old thing of like, there was nothing that ever dominated its era like that one because no, like no MMO is going to do fucking what, 14 years? EverQuest 1 is still on.
Starting point is 00:19:52 So EverQuest 1 is like, 14 years of total dominance? No. No. Right. And at what point did wow's like active user cap start to like drop below this all time high? It's all time high. I want to say was frozen thrown slash cataclysm.
Starting point is 00:20:11 So 11 years? Yeah. About 11 years. Yeah. That's still a successful video game. Yeah. That was like six or seven. It's a good run.
Starting point is 00:20:19 I want to say. It's a good run. Like we're like, like if you look at wow popularity and the time we are now, it's a bell curve. Right. And both ends of the bell curve are really, really, really high. But that middle point was like, oh, the golden era and then cataclysm. Yeah. I think we're at our cataclysm right now.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Eight years now. So we're about to do the dumbest thing ever. Wow. Storyline was bad before. It is now the worst thing ever created by human. Hey, you know what the fucking premise of the new expansion is? You know, the Horde have been fighting for my entire, our entire lives and the Alliance. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Well, they had to team up to fight a bunch of space gods. That seems important. And then they killed it. And then the God left its sword on the planet. And now, despite the fact that we know that there are dozens of other space gods out there that could kill the planet at any time. Let's all fight over the mining rights to this sword. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:16 And that's the end of that chapter. Also, in a cutscene, the guy puts the sword in the planet. Dude, the sword is the sword is like the size of the moon and goes all the way through the planet. And there isn't even an earthquake. Okay. Because a few weeks ago, I made a tweet saying like Illidan Stormrage did nothing wrong. And then I was, I was, I was very fastly, quickly, quickly connect corrected.
Starting point is 00:21:41 But they're like, he didn't. But then they made sure he really did Blizzard. Oh, like he didn't do anything that wrong. Matt, I know you played the old Warcraft games. Yeah. Well, did you play the old Warcraft games? Only three for like one session. I played two and I played tons of three.
Starting point is 00:21:59 So Illidan's Jesus now. Yeah. Okay. I always watch the Blizzard cutscenes though, because I was a huge mark for 3D Studio Max. Yeah. And that was one of their poster boys. And like the fucking Raven cutscene and all that shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:15 But like Illidan's Jesus. And even though he turned into a demon because he ate Golden Skull, he's sitting there talking to Golden because of Time Drive. It's, it's the worst ever. If wherever on that bell curve on the outs, like you said, and we're about to completely drop off, all we have to do is start playing League of Legends. Yep. Now Fortnite now.
Starting point is 00:22:35 Yeah, Fortnite. Yeah. Fortnite's hot. I watched a movie last night in Netflix. You know, bless your heart. Play all of them at the same time. Whatever the fuck. Bless your heart.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Hot. I'm sure you're a fan. I don't want your Fortnite invites to every four minutes. On. I'm just watching a movie on Netflix every two minutes. Two invites saying something, something on Xbox, something, something, somebody, somebody wants you to play. You can't, you can't meet them.
Starting point is 00:23:04 I was going to, but then we, we play Friday the 13th on either Xbox that we have in the room. So we need the notifications at least to pop it up. And I'm like, every, I'm like, I don't own Fortnite. It's free, dude. If you saw me playing Fortnite and you want to invite me, what am I, what am I supposed to say to you? But I'm not, I'm watching Netflix.
Starting point is 00:23:25 It says I'm watching Netflix. I think I talked about this on the podcast for like two seconds. Did either of you play Fortnite ever? No. I fucking hate it. It feels bad. Okay. Like, like movement and jumping and aiming and shooting.
Starting point is 00:23:37 It feels bad. It looks, it looks fine to me, but I'm just not interested. Yeah. Like I, like PUBG is janking on doesn't, you can't build a, a tech bridge or whatever, but in the middle of the shooting feels fine. Someone, someone on, on the forums had a, had a good idea to like, there's a thread that popped up on reset over there. Like, the next big thing should be after you get killed in one of these survival games
Starting point is 00:24:00 that you, you're a zombie and you get to just daisy after people that are still, still alive. There have been games that have done that. Yeah, probably. They've all been, they've all been massive piles of shit, like outside of that feature. So it'd be nice to see it done, man. So I forget where the, where the fuck I saw it, but it's like, get ready for battle royale to be the de facto multiplayer game for every game that comes out in the next six years.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Yep. You know what you want to do? Battle Royale game. You know, you beat you there because you're hungover. See, that's, that's what you fucking get. You dumb shit. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:24:41 Okay. Okay. Cooperation. Oh my God. Battle Royale is a fun game type. I could think of other games that I would like it. The only thing that would interest me, I think in this type of thing would be a literal battle royale one.
Starting point is 00:24:53 You know, you know, well, then you play rust. There's a couple. But I want battle royale with those characters and that bracelet and then our necklace and those weapons. Make little minion alliances that fall apart very quickly. Yeah. Yeah. Alliances are hard to do in games because people are assholes and there's no actual
Starting point is 00:25:14 problem or risk or anything. Eve's the only one that gets it right because you can ruin your life because there was that Kane and Lynch where it was like everyone worked together to get the, to get the gold. Why don't I just shoot everyone in the back right now? Everyone of us is trying to work against each other. Also, battle royale deserves the money because they came up with it. Yeah. So they should get it.
Starting point is 00:25:35 They should get paid for that. Even the name. Yeah. Now battle royale is like a generalized fighting, wrestling type. So here we go. Would you settle? You can't. You'll never get a battle royale.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Okay. Like proper game. What am I settling for? You're settling for the. Yes. Yeah. Before I knew it was coming. I said yes before.
Starting point is 00:25:52 I know. I came out. You said yes so loud. I don't know what he said. You have to settle for what? I started to say the condemned, but I couldn't get it out. The Stone Cold Steve Austin movie does battle royale. But everyone's a prisoner and he's fighting against Vinnie Jones.
Starting point is 00:26:12 And I want to say Danny Trejo's in there too, but I don't remember it's convicts. It's convicts thrown on an island with bracelets. Okay. Death race. Fucking. And it's televised for everyone to watch. When are we going to get a running man game mode? It's basically battle royale.
Starting point is 00:26:30 But. Well, no, no, it's that snake versus everyone. Yeah. Totally. Isn't that basically also a smash TV? Yeah. Running man. Running man.
Starting point is 00:26:42 Running man. Is a direct. Like if running man didn't exist, they wouldn't have come up with that kind of generalized idea. Man, running man. And I think and I think the announcer is great. The announcer gives it away. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:53 He looks exactly like the announcer. You need it. Great crash prizes. Um, yeah. How was how was your week? Oh man. I want to do any of us play battle royale. I mean, I want to start with bullies week or you can just trash on fortnight from for
Starting point is 00:27:11 longer. I don't mind that. That's cool. Play long enough to be able to trash it that much. So that's the problem. Have you played long enough to dissect what I played for about half an hour, what appeals to Drake? Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:24 It's the most popular thing ever for the broadest possible audience, but that's what appeals to. Okay, but overwatch is overwatch is broad and popular and over as broad and popular as fortnight. But I mean, in terms of in terms of like the hooks, right? The hook is somebody said, Hey, Drake, you want to play this incredibly broad and popular game so that you get more popular. All right.
Starting point is 00:27:46 Well, I and then Drake went, I'm in a wheelchair. He's not in the wheelchair anymore. He's out. Right. It was the most thing ever. I said Drake as a replacement for everybody. It's free. But it's not so it's okay.
Starting point is 00:28:03 So are you saying that the the warframe fears that we had all directly apply to fortnight to fortnight? So here's no actually it's it's pubg enabled fortnight success. Yes. Yes. Very clearly because pubg didn't have a battle royale mode before pubg was fucking hot. Yeah. And everybody going crazy for pubg and pubg is super huge in China.
Starting point is 00:28:26 And then epic came out and said, What if it was free though? Right. That's it. Then they added battle royale mode to the building thing. Okay. And again, and is a part of it. And the other. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:39 The other thing that is the console thing, right? Yeah. The other thing is the console thing works on consoles like the trash fire Xbox version. The other thing is that I prefer the way pubg feels and looks personally, but that game is still a fucking jank factory. It's it's like it's super weird top to bottom and it feels like an unfinished it does look unfeeling. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Whereas fortnight is like super polished like it's not blizzard, but it's you fortress too. You can you can feel it. Yeah. And like it looks like team fortress. But like even the main menu like buttons do things that you would expect them to do and stuff like that. So like the game you pay money for looks like a jank shit compared to the free one.
Starting point is 00:29:22 I was always confused because they teased fortnight for a long time before I came out. They showed little bits in this and there was a period where I never knew what it was. I thought it was a concept like, you know how Gears of War was spurned out of that unreal three engine thing where it was just a bunch of weird monsters. It was a weird mishmash of different. It was supposed to be like a baseball game. Yeah. And then it turned into Gears of War adventure or some of the monster designs were lifted.
Starting point is 00:29:47 But fortnight was always like, what an awful name. Two weeks. Yeah. But you're in a fort. But it's forts because it because it was supposed to be it was supposed to be like it was supposed to be more like Daisy. Yeah. And then the new hotness and the characters are just really, really unappealing to me where
Starting point is 00:30:08 they're all just. Can you spend money on things? Are there mini buys in that? Oh, yeah. Totally. Because I'm like, how does it make money? Okay. They are the probably the most disparaging thing I can say about the way fortnight looks
Starting point is 00:30:20 is fortnight looks like those Korean TF2 knockoffs. You know, it looks like remember Agents of Mayhem. Yes. It looks like those characters where I'm like, I can't even remember you. I mean, that just that just points a finger at me and say, oh, well, that's why you liked overwatch because I'm like, look at these really fun characters. Why are you laughing so hard? I'm just like, it's the thing the kids love and we're like, we can podcast a solid three
Starting point is 00:30:44 hours on not giving a fuck about it on this game. Two of us have not played that we have never touched have known real knowledge about. And ultimately, it's just like popular game in the world. We're not going anywhere, man. We're fucking our momentum is where it's at. And this is the exact reason why I'm just talking about why it didn't go to me to like look at it sitting here, man. Overwatch came out like fuck, I want to play that because I got interested in the characters
Starting point is 00:31:12 in the world or whatever. Yes, yes. And in this never got that inclination at all. I am the stodgiest and most crazed of us all. And I'm the only one who even dips my toe in and often in most times I go, but it's like a lot of the time is like, if this genre doesn't even interest me, then I'm like, why would I bother? Because I know a lot of you.
Starting point is 00:31:31 I'm hearing a lot of people, you know, battle royale about a thing that I'm like genuinely good game mode that all you personally need, Willie, is to it for to be attached to a game that you like better. Yeah. Yeah. Like it's it's the core cards. I agree. Is a blast.
Starting point is 00:31:47 Yes, I agree. I would take a game that I like the gameplay of and add the idea of survival with a large group of people to that, which sounds incredible. I forget what the name of it is called. There's a team making what is essentially a melee battle royale game. That's great, which like that's it. I think I think I know what I think it was one of those Amazon games that got announced and then just never came out.
Starting point is 00:32:09 I mean, I mean, trailer for it like well as an Anarchy Reigns type mode even. Yeah, I was an Anarchy Reigns on a big map and you kill people. Yeah. No, no, no. Super, super clear that that that is like I always had the dream of the fucking fighting game MMO, right? But like screw that, just just make it a character action game battle royale. Many people have and the first I can remember was King of Fighters Online made in Korea
Starting point is 00:32:33 where like you'd walk around the very clean South Town. Yeah. All right. There are two words should never be put together and that's well like three words South Town and clean. The prettiest, prettiest, most cleanest resort South Town you've ever seen. Fuck you. And like you'd agree to like one on one people and then you'd get into your little fights.
Starting point is 00:32:55 Or you take Mortal Kombat Deceptions Conquest mode where you're walking around all the different realms and just put it online, which they should. Hey, man, you know what I'm just thinking? Mega bucks. You know what game's going to might be like knock fucking Fortnite off its throat and even though it's not free is Red Dead because Red Dead's multiplayer supposedly going to have a battle royale mode. Yeah, I saw that huge and GTA 5 online despite being like trash is like the most popular
Starting point is 00:33:23 thing ever. That's that's to the point where like I remember when we were in the States to go to Magfest, there were like one of this old lady Uber driver was telling us about how she blows every night playing Grand Theft Auto 5 on like, wow, OK. Yeah. Yeah. DFO is a thing. What?
Starting point is 00:33:41 Dudgeon Fighters Online. Oh, yeah, that continues to. That is a thing too. That is a bit of that like MMO ish beat them up action fighting thing. So we dunked on Fortnite. Fortnite gets sucked my whole asshole. Game we've never touched. I touched it.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Fuck that game. I touched it. I didn't like it right away. I mean, it's probably fine if you like the genre I don't honestly, a lot of the reasons I don't like it is part of the like a lot of reasons I don't like TF2. Like the feel is really, really similar and I don't like TF2 at all. Yeah, like there's there's like I was talking about like where Metal Gear Survive ended up, for example, and it's like, you know, that's a thing where like I can't pretend
Starting point is 00:34:22 that that what they the team working on that did not make a complete solid game. They made a video game. It's fine. Right. It's a good version of what that genre is from what I can tell from people around. It's like a totally average and they wrote and they wrote in some like some wacky ass like twists and more things that fit into the Metal Gear world in an interesting way. But ultimately, it doesn't change the fact that one, it just hurts me like if that if
Starting point is 00:34:49 that game did not have the word Metal Gear on it, no one would know it. If that game still said, though, made by Kojima or produced or Kojima productions, I still wouldn't have been interested in it just because I don't like the survival game. But that's ultimately exactly. And that's and that's kind of where like, you know, like Liam and I just kind of knotted heads and went like, all right, and it's that I've I don't play these zombie games. I would never play portable ops, but I'll watch the story like it looks like I should mention I do play those games on occasion and that is not that is a polished but totally
Starting point is 00:35:22 boring one because like it's like it's it's it's most of those games are like early access like weirdo thing and like, OK, this is polished and it controls one, yeah, but just like the map being like invisible most of the time to the weird cash in aspect of the Metal Gear stuff. I mean, the fact that you can like pilot things and go nuts or whatever like it seems like they added a lot of like interesting bits there. But for me, when it comes to like the zombie survival, like at best, Dead Rising pulls me in when it does those little crazy mini game things like the case zero and the hyper
Starting point is 00:36:01 super crazy turbo mode, right to anyone who wants to play that type of game, I would say play state of decay or wait until state of decay two comes out because that's the best game in that genre. And the latter was mainly just because of the fan service, to be honest. Yeah, I mean, that's still played well, that thing. Man, I'm getting really sad about the fact that like collecting those those cool costumes in Street Fighter five is like, it's just not I failed instantly every time because it means you have to basically you have to pop the game on like at least once a week
Starting point is 00:36:30 to get them. I failed and that that's happening. That's that's like, it's told y'all, yeah, you're not if you're not on it, you're not on it, man. They they got to release those for money later on, they will release them for money later because the Captain Commander one is the one or I'm like, I fucking I'm getting this. I don't care. And I completely fail to get it.
Starting point is 00:36:50 Yeah, yeah, yeah. She just didn't care enough. Yeah, I don't like command. Captain command. I mean, June is cool, not Captain Commando. Oh, and now that he's got the Captain Corridor looking moves, it's like the perfect thing to give to Charlie. But anyway, how was your stuff?
Starting point is 00:37:08 I play Warframe. Yeah, you did. Yeah. I'm you did. I heard that. OK, so whatever. OK, let's OK, I'm going to I'm going to leave that till the end and I'm not going to. OK, so one, I'm second Sabbath.
Starting point is 00:37:21 I'm very far into Warframe. I guess it's a weird game. I'm 120. Don't talk about it in 20 30 hours in game continues to be good at all the things that it is good at. The biggest thing about the second dream, which is a quest in that game. And there's a second quest similar to it called the war within. It's way in there.
Starting point is 00:37:43 You have to play that game for like, let's say you blitz the planets. I'm going to say 70 maybe 80 hours minimum to get to the ability to do this quest. And there are quests in that game that are like, go to the planes and talk to this lady about her dead husband, and then she'll go, you know, you'll go find glass fragments to open up a box because you look like a weird lizard armored god. Yes, talking to ladies about. Well, your character doesn't talk. No, but you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:38:11 It still seems like menial tasks. Well, credit, God, Lord, Warframe, everybody that you talk to is also like a weird space weirdo. Fair enough. I was envisioning just those people that were in robes that were walking around. Yeah, yeah. No, they're all goofball weirdos. Sure.
Starting point is 00:38:25 So you do that. And it's like, oh, survive the denial of service attacks. Yeah. And then you go and do a quest. It's like, oh, look, there's this one frame that's doing this. You got to scan them or what? You know, not a boilerplate shit, pretty, pretty normal. But the weirdest thing about it is that the instant I said, hey, I wonder if
Starting point is 00:38:46 I'll try Warframe. The first thing that people said was, yeah, yeah, do it, do it, do it. You pussy, including like plague. And then the second thing was like, oh, man, can't wait till you get to the second dream. What's that? Shut up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:02 And like it is. Don't talk about it. It is on the level of near fans of like do it. What is it that shut up? Yeah. Just no one, not a goddamn thing, not even an inkling, not an implication, not a hint, nothing, absolutely nothing got back to me through any social media channel, through in-game chat, through regional chat, nothing.
Starting point is 00:39:29 That's pretty responsible. Good job. Um, good job, guys. And but it's not, it's not like our particular viewers or fans. It's everybody who plays this game is just yelling at you to go do that quest and nobody wants to talk about it until you've done it. Do you now understand why? Yes.
Starting point is 00:39:48 Okay. And that is completely justified. And it is, so I beat it, uh, I beat it on stream and like, I didn't know what to title the archive because it's like, it, it, it's the biggest second dream. No, well, no, what I mean is it's the biggest spoiler ever for anything. Okay. Okay. Like, ruinously, okay.
Starting point is 00:40:12 Like to, to spoil this for someone would be the worst ever that it's ever been. And it's a hundred hours in. Yes. Okay. Is this the biggest, craziest version of this ever? Ever. Yeah. Yes.
Starting point is 00:40:27 It is my favorite one. There's no question. And there's a follow-up that I have not done, which as soon as I beat the second dream, people started, that just switched to when are you going to do war with them? When's war with them? Tell me, do it, do it. What is, what's war with it?
Starting point is 00:40:42 Shut up. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. All right. And like what, so everything about that thing structure, and I don't mean it's structure and like in the quest, cause it's a quote, you shoot people, right? Is the weirdest thing.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Cause the quest didn't exist for the two years of the game's life. It just did, it wasn't there. And now it's the far, it's like fucking, it's like if you had to fucking beat like all the sub stories in near to even see the end or I don't know. Okay. So here's my question then. Um, outside of whatever content that is. Yes.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Is the story. What story? Okay. That's the craziest thing. That's what I'm trying to, yeah. Is you go from essentially nothing, you go from almost nothing to scan enemies to read their codex entries to. Oh, Mr.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Warframe, someone stole the pie on my windowsill. Yeah. It's, I, I can't think of any game that does this. And the only reason it works the way it does is because it is so far in because you wouldn't appreciate it if you weren't, if it was, it's the kind of thing. It's like, imagine some game with the, okay. Let's talk about Kotor. Now there are people that haven't caught up with the LP, right?
Starting point is 00:42:07 But Kotor has a fucking great plot twist. Yeah. There's some nuclear shit in there. Right. It has a great ass plot twist that is properly set up and teased and all this stuff. But because it's a Bioware RPG, you feel the plot twist coming from a mile away. And I don't even mean the specifics. You know, there will be a plot twist.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Yeah. You're even on the lookout for something to not be what it seems. And I just mentioned, the second dream is not necessarily even a plot twist because what plot was there, there was nothing. It's, if anything, it sounds like the introduction of context. Don't even, don't even, it's fine. I would say it's revelatory. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:42:53 Yeah. Right. So, but Warframe is a fucking loot shooter co-op space game with your space ninja, like Matt, your description of whatever the fuck they look like is pretty on point. And then you just go, it's like, oh, this is one of the best quests in any game I have ever played. And even though people told me that, I still couldn't have expected what it was because of the type of game that Warframe is. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:22 And it's, it's like, imagine it in Kotor, if you had learned the big plot twist three hours in, and it would have been given the same kind of rigmarole, and then that would have informed the rest of the game. That wouldn't have hit, right? But this game forces you to just, okay, if you're here, that means you really like all this stuff. Here, here's this little extra piece for you. And you go, oh, and it's the best.
Starting point is 00:43:50 It's the best. And so is this like now, like you get, after bread crumbing everybody, you eventually put like a cupcake down and like, are there this other thing that people are telling you to do now? Are there multiple of these little like things to do that are the only real story? So to use your analogy, it's like not even bread crumbing. It's people just tell you there's a cupcake. Go get it.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Yeah. Okay. And you're like, what can I have a little? No. Okay. And the only bread crumbing in the entire game is when someone is discourteous and does spoilers at you. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:33 Physically in game. Okay. And I didn't get it. I mentioned this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't get it then.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Yeah. And I couldn't get it. And it didn't ruin it because I couldn't. Yeah. A random picture of a spoiler, like say if I gave you a random frame from the end of Evangelion, would that ruin Eva for you? Not even remotely. Because you have nowhere to put it.
Starting point is 00:45:05 Yeah. You have nowhere, no context to place it. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like, when I said, oh, this might be my favorite question years and a friend of mine said, well, didn't you play The Witcher? It's like, yeah, but I expect certain things from a game like The Witcher. I expect to have a side quest that's really like The Bloody Baron is the best
Starting point is 00:45:24 quest in that game. I expect to have drama and like, you know, a rising crescendo and all this stuff. The turn. Yes. But now all I guess I want to know is like, are there a select number of other things like this? There are, there are, there are, there's second dream. There's the direct follow up later in the game called War Within.
Starting point is 00:45:44 And then there are the quests to acquire two frames, Octavia and Hero, which were added after those and have a bunch of shit in them as well of similar nature. Apparently just it's like characters tell you shit. So as far as like every couple of years, we can make one of these things and drop it in there goes pretty much. Is that the, do you think it's the most successful version compared to like how like MMO events are generally? There is no comparison whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:46:14 Interesting. Interesting. It is. Bold words. Yeah. It is, it is the best version. And very controversial. And how do I put this?
Starting point is 00:46:25 There's absolutely no comparison. Yeah. Okay. And it's the best version because they can't do it again. Okay. Like, like War Within will, uh, how do I put this? Friend of mine, after he beat it and I asked him about it, but you know, didn't he said, okay, you're going to get a couple of questions answered, but then you're
Starting point is 00:46:41 going to get a million more questions, right? And then War Within answers most of those, but then gives you a bunch more. And War Within is quite good. But I like the things that Second Dream does can't be done again because it changes everything. Now you're, now you're got, you've moved on from like selling people that were like, hmm, I'm kind of interested in War Framing. I'm saying people that are like, I don't really have an interest, but I just
Starting point is 00:47:06 need to know what the fuck I'm talking about. But I have to talk in these weird grandiose, I, I, yeah. And I, and I, and I can understand why I can understand why I get it. And, and it's, and it's really weird. And to everybody who doesn't know what I'm talking about, the most important thing is there are three groups here. There's the group that's going, maybe I should check out Warframe. And if they really liked the game, they'll get there.
Starting point is 00:47:29 Yeah. And if they don't, they won't. Yeah. There's the group that already know, and everyone I've talked to is like, yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And that's why reaction videos to those fucking quests are real, are super, super popular.
Starting point is 00:47:42 Well, no, it's people's stream archives and, and what not. They meant like, like. Yeah, yeah, smash, smash for this video. The reaction videos are like two hours long because it's quite a long time. Teams react to Warframe quests. And then there's the people who go, well, I'm never going to play Warframe. And let me just, I'm going to go watch it and they're probably going to come off like, Oh, that was really cool.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Because the act of playing the game for that time period is what makes it matter. Right. Because it's what, it's your assumptions and expectations and how you feel the game is tie into it in a way that I can't quite explain without blowing the whole thing up. And you're probably upsetting people with even what you're saying right now to some degree. So no, there's, there's nothing to really, it is, it is tough to spoil by accident because unless, unless, because it requires a lot of set up and
Starting point is 00:48:39 like explaining, like, well, the one thing of the before, when you're talking about how just like, like things can occur in game where you just go, but how, what are you doing? What is that? You're, you just, you're just quite like it doesn't. Yeah. It's, it's like, you know, there's no answers for you here. You don't know what you're looking at. Well, let, let me, let me be, let me put that to like it for people who are afraid
Starting point is 00:49:04 that like, even I'm being too clear about it. Apparently Plague spoiled the shit out of it on the podcast he was on two weeks ago. How about that? And none of us fucking picked it up. Nope, not even remotely. Because when someone says something and they, and then you don't know that's a spoiler until someone then later tells you that was a spoiler. I'm like, thanks for spoiling me.
Starting point is 00:49:28 Yeah. That you just told me that's a spoiler. That other guy did nothing wrong. Oh, he did, but he actually did. Like, I didn't know he did anything wrong. And then that's another pitfall. You have to now and there's all sorts of goofy shit all over the game. There are tooltips.
Starting point is 00:49:43 There are tooltips in the game that I looked at and went, Oh, that must. I don't know what that is. What is that talking about? They asked, Hey, what's that tool to shut up? Beat secretary. Sure. What is it? Sure.
Starting point is 00:49:56 What does that mean? What does that fucking mean? I don't get nobody knows. So it's a good game. Everybody should play it. It is not it. Yes. So to, I remember Willie, when we first talked about Warframe, we talked about
Starting point is 00:50:10 how like our, our opinions of this game were kind of tainted because it's free. Right. The expectation of it being a free game. Yeah. Yeah. When I, when I booted up the one time and I was like, whoo, this is free. That was that was over there. Well, this, this is sure as some free video game right here.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Well, no, just like boobing it up and seeing that was what PS4. That was when I was like, you know, like, like, like, let it die. It didn't blow up like Fortnight or, or, or, or frame, you know, like, no, but it was never going to. It did a lot better than I thought it was like sometimes it's more than just the free. So yeah, like the free nests helps this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:48 Because you're playing it and you're like, they put this in a free game. This is better than most games that I play now. And so it's like, it's this thing of like, hey, you should get to this thing. And nobody, no one is going to play Warframe for the time that it takes to get to that for that only. Right. And that's good. Okay.
Starting point is 00:51:15 Because that's your reward for sticking with it and getting in there and by not buying in literally with cash, but like buying in with your time. Okay. Uh, interesting. That's, that's pretty much all I played all week. Uh, like the circumstances of what you're describing are like almost more interesting than what it actually is in a way. Well, cause it's, that's part of it really.
Starting point is 00:51:38 Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, and the, the, the Warframe community is the best at not spoiling you. Cool. Like I'm very interested to get to planets. I'm very interested to get to the next planet because the war, uh, second dream takes place on, uh, Neptune. And you have to, you, you get there and then it takes place on Neptune.
Starting point is 00:52:02 Right. That means the next planet, which would be Pluto, if you're at Pluto, you beat second dream. Therefore Pluto is safe to talk or do anything you want. Right. And so on and so forth. So I'm interested to see what happens, what happened when I get to Pluto. This is 10, oh, 10, oh, a description of a, a matchup.
Starting point is 00:52:29 A matchup. Does it become nine one? I don't, I, I actually literally don't understand what you mean. It's a terrible, terrible. Speak plainly. It's a terrible, terrible pun. It's not worth acknowledging. It's a pun.
Starting point is 00:52:40 We're moving. Yeah. Was it 10, 10, zero matchups, nine, one matchups, eight, two matchups. Yeah, man. Five, five, five. You're fucking, you're 10, oh, because everything's a 10, zero to you. Because you're so strong. Yeah, the no, it's not.
Starting point is 00:52:55 That's, that's boy, God. That's a bad one. That's a hangover pun. That's a what? You just needed to do the voice. Was that a 10, no. Yeah. Matchup.
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Starting point is 00:58:09 Righto. Righto. All right. So you, you're okay. So when you're hung over, you will just randomly drop H's from words. Like during that whole ad read, the only letter that you dropped at any point was H. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:26 It was a couple of times. I don't want to say some body. Woth. Yeah. He said, and dollar save club. I didn't. I did. I'll have to check a bunch of H's just disappeared.
Starting point is 00:58:37 He'll see. I'll check the gate on that. I got to check every time that you looked over and saw me go. That was what was happening. I got it. I got it. In my eyes, my eyes darted around a little bit nervously. Anyway, I got to find out the guy trying to take the H out of hung over,
Starting point is 00:58:56 but it's too strong. I'm going to hang over. I'm going to go listen. I know. Oh, yeah. Well, now we just sound Quebec. Well hung over. You don't you put the H in words that don't have it.
Starting point is 00:59:10 Man, it's hard to say triple H. Yeah, it sure is hard to say triple H under erst Elmsley. That's how Pat Patterson said it. Yeah, I'm going to take that in a different, different path. It's really hard to say triple H. Yeah, I patch. What the hell is Irish? Oh, but there's also that wrestling video.
Starting point is 00:59:33 His is great. Go watch that. But then you it is pretty good. But then you add the H to words that don't have it like Randy Horton. Man, yeah. Kevin Hoens. I got to go down to the. Kevin Owens.
Starting point is 00:59:45 I know his real name is Kevin Owens. Why not? I think it's Kevin something because even if it you seem like you have a normal name, some of those names are just made up. It's probably like Kevin Desormaux. Yeah, no, his real name is J.F. Yeah, of course. This is really looks like a J.F.
Starting point is 01:00:02 He is absolutely J.F. If not a J.G. He looks like a J.F. for sure. Yeah. All right. Well, anyway. So what did I do? Well, fuck you up, then.
Starting point is 01:00:14 I saw The Shape of Water and I really liked it. That was a really good film. It was. Yeah, I can see why I got all the awards that did. And I can see what the big hullabloo about fish fucking is. Yeah, because the lore there, everybody go fuck your fish. Yeah, the really interesting part, actually, like the funniest thing about it is still find it weird
Starting point is 01:00:38 that every secondary character was really on board with fucking. So here's the problem now. The thing, the biggest problem with the fucking thing is not even the act of the fish fuck, which everybody knows at this point. It fucks the fish. It's not even that. It's that when you go tell your sassy black lady friend about which I have many.
Starting point is 01:00:59 Yeah, you fucked a cool fish monster and sassy black lady from the olden days is like girl, oh, my God, laughing and yucking it up when it's like that's not how that would go. That'd be like, oh, that lady would throw a Bible at your head. No, and be like, y'all need Jesus. No, man. Get the fuck to church. She offscreen in the shape of water. You made me curse.
Starting point is 01:01:23 You don't make me curse with your fish offscreen in Shape of Water. You don't see this, but the Shape of Water takes place in a slightly different alternate universe in which furryism started super early because this is now like very, very popular. If anything, everyone should be throwing Bibles at everybody at any given time because your villain is obviously going to be a pseudo, right? Racist, sexist, misogynist, everythingist type asshole. He's a general guy, right?
Starting point is 01:01:50 Fucking and that's there. And that's all like expected. Even her neighbor, even her neighbor's like, yeah, get in there, girl. Yeah. And he's a social outcast for his own reasons. That's fine. But still, you know, we don't even know what. But no, but yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's like, we get it, like the misfits and the outcasts to a degree. But the friend was way too on board with that.
Starting point is 01:02:10 Yeah, that sounds like she also wanted to fuck the fish creature. No, no. And then there wasn't even a warm up period where she was like, I don't know about that girl. That's weird. And then she'd walk away and then like two scenes later, she's like, oh, wait, they really love each other. What? No, it was just a gap. I'm so pregnant with like horrible fish.
Starting point is 01:02:29 That donger around. It was it was like is she the way she reacted was if like it was if you hooked up with like, you know what I mean? Like some John Hamm or yeah, it's like some sort of exactly. Like you like you got laid by some celebrity or some fame. You know what I mean? Like someone came to town and then like went to town. Yeah. And you're like, oh, girl, you got yours.
Starting point is 01:02:51 You know, it's like that's like why? No, you can't sell that. I'm sorry. I know. It was too bad. It was sold. It was still very good, though. Nice, nice music, spiritual, nice, spiritual successor to the Black Lagoon creature from the Black Lagoon, not Black Lagoon. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:08 And yeah, music, music done really well. Solid, some solid closing lines, I'd say, the in the towards the the the the climax and should I had another point, too, that I completely forgot. Fish fucking. No. Yes. Thank you. It was. Yes. Thank you. You actually brought it back. The post movie discussion, the post movie discussion on this one is interesting
Starting point is 01:03:36 because now you get into the ethics of like, all right, what type of intelligence is being displayed from this fishman? It's unclear, right? And we're talking about like things like sign language and such. So is that a level of intelligence comparable to, I don't know, let's say a signing monkey, yeah, for example, Coco, the gorilla that can do sign language, right? Yeah. And then you get it or like a dolphin, right?
Starting point is 01:04:02 And then exactly. And then you start having this and you go like, so is it OK to fuck a dolphin? It's clearly not, right? And so where? Wait, what? You need to justify that. Hold on a minute, sir. Yes, your honor. No, like. Seems like a Phoenix Wright case. So now what you do, right?
Starting point is 01:04:23 And then you so you have this discussion about the difference between the type of intelligence and the type of sapience that the fishman displays. That's right. That's right. That's right. And then you you go towards the far flowing, very obvious, clear and acceptable future of Mass Effect, where you're like, hey, man, do they fit? Yeah, we'll figure it out. OK, cool, right? With whatever race you want, you can bang whoever or whatever
Starting point is 01:04:49 in your Mass Effect. Slam a head on. OK, so that means that like in a world of aliens that show up and are pretty much as like competent and as aware as you are, then it's fine. But clearly, we have a thing to where it's like there's also it's not just the fact that you're displaying that you're intelligent and whatnot, but there's also an age level that we kind of need to make sure you're not super young and gullible to a degree. Because is there fishman years, though?
Starting point is 01:05:15 But that's what I'm saying is so big. This is a discussion where you have to kind of figure out like, why I got a OK, why do you got to make it creepy and what's not OK? Right? Why do you got to make it? You know what? Yeah, do you know what's not OK at all? Some wholesome fish fucking. Do you know what's not OK? Do you know the part that makes it like kind of go OK?
Starting point is 01:05:32 But the intelligence level is that how does she first gain his trust? What does she do? Well, I mean, I don't want to give too many details, but she a gift. She offers a gift. What is the gift? It's an idea. It's the type. OK, it's it's a type of food. Yeah, yeah, that's dogs.
Starting point is 01:05:52 Yeah, that's how to get animals. That's how you hold out your hand. And you that's the intelligence level. I think that the part of your heart set and remains at. So I mean, so yeah, it's this creature. Yes, yes, she puts some peanut butter in her hand. And spread everywhere you like. No, see the see the problem, right?
Starting point is 01:06:13 And there's no problem. OK, fine. The discussion that I found very fascinating was trying to come up with the invisible place that we don't have the language for yet. Yeah, of like, you know, aliens show up. Like because you foresee the possibility of needing on the books, fish fuck rules. Well, because here's where I'm going with this.
Starting point is 01:06:35 So when we were talking about it right after the movie, we pretty much went to the world of like, OK, so eventually the aliens show up and they're like it's like it's they're weird looking. But we're like, yeah, but they're clearly aware and we're aware. And then OK, so then people start living together long enough that that becomes the norm and everything's fine. Right. And like just breaking. And so we're talking about how it's like, OK, so when your kids show up
Starting point is 01:06:59 and go like, hey, this is my girlfriend. It's this alien thing. Are you going to be the racist asshole dad going? Oh, one of them in my house. Well, what? You know, are you? What are the aliens that asking questions about the scales? What if the aliens that show up that you want to put your dick into are like a barely sentient protomass and they're just like a natural.
Starting point is 01:07:22 They're like a spore. I think that's a difficult one. It's just like having sex with a bowl of jello that came from space. Yeah. Is that wrong? I don't know. And my conclusion was that smarter people than me will have to work this out. And tell us what to do a dumber people because it gets away with a lot of these questions by presenting itself as a fairy tale.
Starting point is 01:07:48 And it has kind of magic and whatever. But let's say I do bring some fucking semi intelligent mass of jello that I enjoy having carnal relations with to my parents. My parents are right to be concerned about how this relationship will go in the future, who supports for the mass of jello. Right. Are you going to have a rough time trying to support this thing? Yeah, they can be OK. They can be concerned about that.
Starting point is 01:08:15 But are they going to special pod? Yeah. But then but then here's are the parents going to work? Does it take shifts at a subway? No, it's a barely sentient protomass. Are they going to start rubbing up on to feeling the texture of the jello because that hair is so different. That's not a tear. It's what? Yeah, you know, genitals. That's how this happened.
Starting point is 01:08:34 Right. And so that's the whole thing. And and, you know, so my girl was basically like insisting. There's like, no, I would I would I would accept it would be weird, but I would accept it and it would be this alien thing. And I'd be like, no, but you you're both these are consulting. Oh, so adults and it'd be fine. And I'd be like, yes. So so the ding dong, the door opens up and the stock just walks in with its legs and creepy.
Starting point is 01:08:58 That's not fair because the stock is a special case. I know. And that's why I used it, right? The fucking stock from Saga just bends in and walks in such a hater for love and says, hey, you must be the you must be his mom. Nice to meet you. Yeah. What what do you do? And of course, and she like, she literally like ran and went like around the corner. And I'm like, oh, oh, yeah, you're you're going to be so accepting, huh?
Starting point is 01:09:23 Yeah, because insects and the creepiness of bug legs and all that. Yeah, it's like you're going to be super racist to everyone. Yeah, everyone has their thing where it's like, oh, no, not that thing. Don't pretend you're going to be you're going to be sitting there eating dinner and not like sweating at the at the the sounds that this insect person is making. That you're you're where it's a lot. This comes out and eats up the shepherd's pie. You're not going to feel comfortable about that.
Starting point is 01:09:46 Hey, man, it takes all kinds of love for the world. You want to fuck a creepy bug? That's cool. So that's all it is. It's a discussion that we don't have the nuance. Pants, a sentient pants that are filled with shit. Yeah, walks into your house. That's right. Continue. That's that's the scenario.
Starting point is 01:10:03 Can it talk? No, but it can make noises. Can people fuck it? No, it's unclear at this. OK, so wait, because how do you what? What? Wait, hold on. What? OK, because this whole. I try to think of what scares you the most.
Starting point is 01:10:18 It's like, how do I accept somebody's love of a creepy thing? Which it's more than that would be a sentient pair of pants filled with shit. It's it's more than that. And the reason why it's a more complex topic. Is it? It is. Is because it's not just again, like one, like you said, you hold out the food. You get animals do that. Sign language. Yeah, we got animals to do that.
Starting point is 01:10:38 Yeah, that's cool. It's not just that. It's like, even if the thing is as complex and as smart as a human being can be. Yeah, it's still not OK until it's at least of age. OK, well, so if how do you know that fish, man? You need to find it's society where it lived growing up. And and and and and research needs to be done.
Starting point is 01:11:00 How about I reverse this on you? How about that? What if say, well, say you you meet fish, fish, man, and you're like, boy, that's a surprisingly attractive. All right, now let's say fish, fish people because they're weird fish creatures. They live to a million years old. Right. Let's say one million, right? And this one happens to be 80,000.
Starting point is 01:11:29 Sure, which is like an adult. Yeah, they're an adult for a million years, right? Does that make it creepy for the fish person to fuck you? Because no matter how old you are, you are going to be like creepy baby years. Well, that's the problem is no because that fish monster, most likely doesn't have the same stigmas and taboos that we do. Well, it's not it's not just that.
Starting point is 01:11:55 It's also that you can't do the relative thing because if you meet a race of what you're related to it. No, you can't know if you meet a race of highly intelligent things that are alive for 24 hours. Sure. Then does that mean by three o'clock? It's like it's OK by whose standards? Well, that you understand that you can't say. So you have to apply a new set of standards.
Starting point is 01:12:18 You absolutely do. When elves fuck human beings. Yeah, that's cool. OK, but what type of elves? Well, that's no like no. No, I'm talking about talking about high elves from Dragonland, the same type. OK, fuck it. We're talking Sylvan, Estee, Qualan, Estee.
Starting point is 01:12:35 OK, there you go. Right. So when you're talking, you're talking to those elves and they decide to fuck a human being. Well, a human being. Sure, if they fuck it. If a 20 year old human being fucks an elf, that's like what? One hundred and fifty, one hundred and fifty, right? One hundred and fifty is like,
Starting point is 01:12:51 oh, yeah, you're starting to mature a little bit, I suppose. But does that mean that anyone under one hundred and elf years is going to be like, you gross, you're fucking a child to as far as elves are concerned? No. Yeah, man. They're going to be like, you're fucking a human. It depends. They let it rock in the elf into our current timeline
Starting point is 01:13:09 slash society versus fantasy world. In fantasy world, elves starts looking like us. No, man, because fucking a lot sooner than her name. Tannis's wife, she's like, oh, yeah, he's got the grandest beard. That's some good shit. So, but like, OK, yes, that shit. Yeah, yeah, I do like and Lord of the Rings. Like he didn't look it.
Starting point is 01:13:30 But the Aragorn was like is like eighty five. Yeah, in that movie, in the movies, in the books. Sure, he's old because that's because people lived older. Yeah, whatever, whatever. And our winds like a thousand years old, let's say, I don't know. Well, before the third age, you know, and they never mentioned any of that shit in there, probably because like it depends if Guillermo del Toro cares.
Starting point is 01:13:53 The age gap. If he's going to write that in, then it's important to him. If he's not, then he's not the age gap falls before the species gap. Species gap must be crossed first. And if you're cool with that, then you're probably cool with anything. It does. It exists afterwards. You're it's true. The species gap is the biggest one.
Starting point is 01:14:13 But that's why I was so fascinated by how complex it was because I'm like, now you've gotten past the species gap. You've got to figure out is because you're putting putting rules on love with the fish, man. What's the halfway point, you know, between like, all right, it's not just that it can be apparent at this point. Looks like was halfway back. It's spoilers. And that's spoilers.
Starting point is 01:14:35 Yeah, I was about to do a movement. Don't do it. No, I don't do it. You know, the second dream is about a love affair with a creepy fish, man. So so Gilmore del Toro can actually like convince the world that it's OK to love your fish, man. I think it was there. And we're cheering and spritzing as it happens.
Starting point is 01:14:54 I think it was there, but in mainstream like exposure. Yes, absolutely. But when you replace the fish man with any other type of scenario. Oh, well, various degrees of well, right? Twilight. Yeah, acceptable. Yeah. Also, I don't know. That vampire is weird. That book had some weird shit where like her baby was.
Starting point is 01:15:15 Oh, it's great. Yeah, that's that got bad. That's hilarious. That got bad. Ever. It got bad. It got real, real bad in Twilight. I know, it's really funny. The baby.
Starting point is 01:15:26 I'm going to marry that baby, said the wolf man. It's impet smell imprints is stuck with me. I can't avoid it. And then I brought that up to when I was in university. There was a quaintance of mine. I would not use the term friend because not because of this exact story. But she was reading a Twilight book and it was a book after the time that that happened. And I'm like, hey, what's up with that wolf man?
Starting point is 01:15:51 Wanting to fuck a baby? She's like, that's not what it's about. Yeah. And I went, yeah. And then I had the quote ready on my phone. Exactly how that goes. And then she got so mad that she cried and ran away. Yeah, she did. Yeah. And I felt so big about myself.
Starting point is 01:16:09 That's exactly how that I felt so strong and powerful. It's a discussion. There are a bunch of people, particularly our audience, that are going to go, dude, what? And going to go look up a bunch of Twilight spoilers. Not knowing. Yeah, because every because it's kind of old at this point. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:27 So some people might have not might have missed out on the creepy shit. But yeah, no, a baby gets born and a werewolf looks at it and goes, smells it and goes, oh, yeah. Don't worry. I'll wait the three weeks it'll take for her to grow up because she's a magic baby because she's a Chinese myth dragon like like dizzy. Is she Chinese? I have no one knows a dizzy disease like three years old, man. No, don't worry about it.
Starting point is 01:16:53 You should disease disease three in Maze 18. That's weird, man. Guilty gear sucks. Um, yeah, can we please get away from this topic? I worry about it. I worry about it. But you know what? It was a good movie.
Starting point is 01:17:13 It's not to worry about. It's just. Yeah, you know, you can a lot of there's a lot of depth to these questions. Well, because you can take the formula of guess who's coming to dinner. Oh, yeah. Wow, we're. Wow, you son of a bitch. You went and fucking got Sidney Poite's fucking name dragged into this fucking
Starting point is 01:17:44 trash, holy shit. I'm just saying it's a formula and we can move the cards around and we can play with on the on the blackboard and try to figure out what's happening. You know what I mean? That's why it's very good. We can try to figure that is the that is the worst. Analogy ever, ever you open up the door. See what's there?
Starting point is 01:18:09 Oh, no, which hey, hey, woolly, let's say let's flip it around. Say you bring home a family and it's either Ashton Kutcher or a creepy fish monster, which you perceive causing more problem. The same amount for each. Oh, man, I hope you like fish slime. Does caviar make that relationship awkward? Depends, because fish eat fish. Yeah, I mean, yeah, so I don't think they give them because there are
Starting point is 01:18:43 different kinds of fish, right? They don't give them and he's not actually a fish. It's not. I thought it was a fish. No, he's an amphibian type creature. Oh, OK. Yeah, he's not like, but he's not literally a fish. OK, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:18:56 I'm just saying. So what if it was like Dory with just a big fat ass? I'm starting to think that's what you thought the movie was to receive. Oh, yeah, the Swedish ending of Finding Dory. I couldn't believe that shit. That is the best fucking tweet. OK, so just go look up. Just go look up the tweet of the Swedish ending of Finding Dory.
Starting point is 01:19:21 It's the funniest thing ever. Appreciate it. It's real good. It's real strong. I had an inkling as to what was going up there in a dictionary search. Later confirmed it. But still, yeah, but still fantastic. And I feel like that can now apply to multiple that that is probably a thing
Starting point is 01:19:38 with many, many, many Swedish films. Yeah, yeah, yeah, strong, strong, strong. It only works best if it's with like children's. Oh, yeah. So the other thing that was of note is I was on my fucking. I was on my way to boxing. Yeah, right. And he's record that this is the this is the lore now.
Starting point is 01:20:00 Yeah, I was on my way to I was on my way and like I didn't just scrolling past some tweets and lo and behold, our friend one Jeff through mother shit bag yeah, besides the sides to fucking throw up his his his criticisms of Pacific Rim. Yeah. Yeah. Without putting a spoiler alert on them. Oh, yeah. And just drops massive huge bomb spoilers in the first couple words of his
Starting point is 01:20:32 tweets in the tweet raw. Oh, wow. And I'm just like, dude, bad, Jeff. No, even if like, I get the feel like I understand that I live in a world where like, we're not allowed to like things and not be immediately up to date on the Berserk thing was really bad. It you saw me try a little bit. Dude, I same thing happened to me.
Starting point is 01:20:55 It's really it's because, yes, we like it. That doesn't mean you tweet the pages at us. Please just relax. Oh, right, right. You know, I never saw this but guys page guys pay like fuck. Come on, man. Well, the one thing that but I know that's where we live. That's that's that's the that's that's the existence of stuff.
Starting point is 01:21:16 The one thing someone posted to me was like a new character in the Marvel universe that has to do with the Punisher. Yeah. But it was a new character. You'll never. And I was like, I wasn't reading that comic run. Yeah. So I didn't really get spoiled.
Starting point is 01:21:29 But I'm like, that's cool. But now I will not get. You can't discover anything. If I yeah. Yeah, I didn't. Your discovery is the moment it exists. And you're right. Type of thing.
Starting point is 01:21:39 So so the specific room. So that's what is a professional shitbag. And so that happened there. And I was just like, like, it's not it's just like it just put the words that say spoiler warning. It's not don't tweet about spoilers. It's just put the words up top so my eyes know what to go. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:21:54 Yeah. Because I got like three words in and then went, yeah, you know, which, you know, he eventually like did like remove and whatnot. Yeah. Because you have that moment where you put a tweet up and then your phone starts to explode and you're like, let's reread what I said. Let's get rid of that. And and yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:12 And like his thought process was he's like, damn, dude, sorry. Like you just like thinking like I didn't like the thing. Like I hated it. So I felt like it was okay to. I know that exact. I have done that many years ago and people were like, what the fuck? I'm like, whatever. It sucks.
Starting point is 01:22:31 You don't care. I'm like, no, I do care. Like just give me the chance to go in cold. So I fucking had to get up that night and go watch the damn thing. OK, there you go. Right. But the play and like the main problem was like the only reason why I didn't go see it already was because I was trying to go with my girl.
Starting point is 01:22:48 Yeah. And so we were waiting for an opportunity to and like it was like, well, now that the movie is ruined, this is the best time. So I so saw that. Right. Stop Pacific Room two. And I felt that the action was I felt the action was on par with the first movie. Yeah, I think I was absolutely delivers as far as that is concerned
Starting point is 01:23:06 in in just as entertaining away. OK, so the first kind of proper fight, which is where it's Gypsy Avenger versus another robot. And there's a building involved. Yeah, there's a one specific type of punch involved. I know exactly. OK, that was the moment. I was like, oh, yeah, oh, oh, oh, like, like that's like that's like nice.
Starting point is 01:23:28 There's some cool stuff in the action that I'm glad is not ruined by the trailers. Yeah, because trailers are showing you lots of hot shit. Yeah. But there's some fun stuff that happens. And I was like, oh, that was, you know, I know this is going to be a dead horse. But I'm going to have one more in there. You know what the best part about the second dream is? There's no fucking trailers for shit.
Starting point is 01:23:47 Yeah, there's nothing. There's no promotional material. There's nothing that exists. I was reading something about recently about how the fact that Arnie was a good guy in Terminator 2 was supposed to be kept secret. Yes, I read this. And he was like, absolutely not. He was trying to keep that and the fucking trailer company.
Starting point is 01:24:09 So just went and let's let's give some context to that because that that's really interesting. And so spoilers for a 35 year old movie. Arnie is a good guy in Terminator 2. And he's a bad guy in the first movie. He's big, Bill. He's the cool, really cool in Terminator 1, right? Yeah. So in the movie.
Starting point is 01:24:30 They have a scene where two terminators come back in from the future and one dresses up like a cop and is played by Jason Patrick. Jason Patrick, thank you. And one dresses up like a biker and it's obviously Arnie. And they are both running to get the kid. And then it's very the movie does not telling you one way or another. Yeah, like what the goal here is either guy. Both are framed as psycho murderers by the camera. OK.
Starting point is 01:24:57 And then I've seen T2. Yeah. OK. Because you that OK. He's being the audience. OK. And then at the last second when the oh, no, the cop is the evil one. And then Arnie pulls the kid behind. No, it takes get down. Yeah. Get down.
Starting point is 01:25:14 He takes the bullets and it's kid and then shoots the guy. And it's like and it takes a while for the movie to get there. It takes an hour. It's to that. I think. No. It's like it's like 15 minutes. No, no, no, no, no. It's not. But there's there's 15. There's the whole bar and then there's the whole jail, right?
Starting point is 01:25:29 And then there's the gallery. And then there's the establishment of Connor and then you get to that. So that was supposed to be a big fucking whoa. Yeah. Yeah. And the first trailer for T2 is like now he's back. But he's protecting and he's protecting. And it shows the moment that I'm talking about in the trailer. And it's like that's one of the worst ever of all time.
Starting point is 01:25:48 So you get to that point and you go, yeah, we know now what else? We're we're finally past that point. Now the movie starts. Yeah. And it sucks because you're just waiting to get to the thing that like is now. Now the new content begins, you know? And that's a fee. That's why I fucking hate like so many trailers and the way that they market things like you, you see, you see, uh, uh, like.
Starting point is 01:26:09 Well, let's take, let's take a Infinity War because everybody's seen that trailer. Right. The new one. Yeah, I haven't. I was told not to watch whatever any Infinity War trailer, right? And in the Infinity War trailers, there's dudes fighting Thanos, right? Imagine if in the trailer, there was a moment where the guy said, huh, we're going to have to work really hard to get through this without Tony. Yeah. And you're like, fucking what? Really? I mean, we've talked, we've talked about it a couple of times,
Starting point is 01:26:40 but like I always give two examples of like the best thing to do and the worst thing to do and like admittedly super old ass book. So not a new thing, but nonetheless, the Japanese trailer for the fucking Return of the King or was it Chinese? I forget which one opens on Mount Doom, Frodo going, the ring is mine. Literally the beginning of the fucking promotional material for it. I'm like, what are you doing? Why would you do that?
Starting point is 01:27:09 It's, it's funny because when you look at the globe and say you look at the Greenwich line as the middle, right? If you go, like if you turn the globe, like the 2D map of the world into a fucking chart, you can go, gives a shit about spoilers on the left. As high as and as you travel, who doesn't give a shit about spoilers as you go east, right? Yeah, with the fun parts of South America and Australia being the weird ones out of their respective categories. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 01:27:48 And the best examples being for me, the modern Star Wars tone trailers that are just teaser shots and lines of dialogue with no context. Establishing shots and mood is all you set up. And it's like, why the fuck can't movies do that more often? Because Star Wars gets to do it because they know people will go see it because it says fucking Star Wars on it. You're 100% correct. They don't have to actually sell the movie.
Starting point is 01:28:17 When you're right, you're right. Horror movie trailers might be the worst. You're right. Because you get to see most of the characters, you get iced in those trailers. Because if one person sees the trailer and goes, oh, fuck, I wasn't going to go see that, but now I'm going to. It was worth it. So, you know how I'm completely wrong.
Starting point is 01:28:35 So you know how it sucks every video game that's not Warframe puts the coolest stuff at the very beginning of the game. Frontload it so that you're like, yeah, woo. Yeah, just frontload it more to outside the thing with the movie. I we need to I mean, I think we had a discussion before about like we need to come up with a term for when the money stops in the intro to a game. And then, oh, yeah, right. And then the dryness begins.
Starting point is 01:29:01 God of Wars usually have all the money in the front. Yeah, I'll I'll and at the back sleeping dogs has that moment. Right. Like, yeah, there's there's definitely a right has that. It's like all your cut scenes and voice acting and FMV start to go away. Yeah. And then you're just in game with mission objectives on your life. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 01:29:20 You know, it was a great fucking trailer campaign. The fucking matrix. Yes, because all the trailers were was what is the matrix? You can't tell. And I'll be told that you'll just have to go watch the movie. The eggs literally. And it's like and it happened. Great.
Starting point is 01:29:35 And that line happens to work for telling you to go see a movie. But also for that's why Infinity War is cool. Someone's dying. I still don't know who there's because there's a couple of things out there. They're like, Chris Evans, his contract is up. Yeah. But no one knows if Robert Downey's is or something like it could be a couple. I saw I saw people.
Starting point is 01:29:57 It's not going to happen in part one. No, it has to happen. I think someone definitely will. Part one is the one where everyone loses. And how do you show that we lost? We take out who's who's contracts up? Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. OK, the then it's the predictable, like, use their motivational death.
Starting point is 01:30:14 OK, you know what, you know what the end of Infinity War has to be? It has to be Sindel showing up in Mortal Kombat 9. It has to be just like, hey, guess what? You thought you were going to have a big fight scene? No, it's a it's a one sided slaughter and just next snap after next snap. So yeah, we're jumping all over. But it's Bucky's arm to be kept to death. Fuck it. Pacific Rim.
Starting point is 01:30:38 Yeah, uprising, uprising. Should have kept that first name, which was Maelstrom. But you got to have the new kids rise up. Maelstrom was so much cooler. I don't know how to say that word. Call it Maelstrom. Yeah, I don't want to go. Roosh, or is that her name? Rouge, the bat, Rouge, the bat, the best X-Men of all.
Starting point is 01:31:04 So, so, uh, fuck, I got a much better name. Well, anyway, the so that's there. But what sucks is that there is a like an omnipresent level of pandering that happens in the movie. Yes. And it's boy, is it shameless. And it's all kinds, all kinds of pandering going down. And you're like, I understand. I get it.
Starting point is 01:31:31 It's the only reason the movie exists. But like, uh, uh, but it's not. OK, so there's, well, there's multiple things, right? So you have like, you have there's definitely a massive injection of China to, you know, sort of like huge. Bases in China, huge Chinese injection. It's got to be a big part of it, which is understandable. Based on it's the only.
Starting point is 01:31:52 Yeah, that's where the money came from. That's why that movie. Um, but, but there's a difference. There's a difference between, uh, like, because having a tech company be the villain is told, plausible and makes sense. Yeah, it's a difference between that and like, scenes about learning Mandarin, right? Like, wow, there's, I'm not talking.
Starting point is 01:32:09 You should learn a real language. The establishment of the dialogue establishment of the base and the, and the, the, like the setup and who they and everything. I like, that's all very in world practical and makes perfect sense. Given the nature of the job they're doing and whatnot. And like, it even makes better sense later on. But, uh, yeah, there's depth, but there's extra bits that you come and go now. And then you're like, yep.
Starting point is 01:32:30 So that extra cut of Avengers where they removed like that scene here, it's like, it's just the whole thing, right? Now, then there's the pandering towards the kids and you got to do that. Because kids by the toys. So the blue ranger is now a child and he turns into an adult when he morphs. But you got to have that. I want to, I can see myself. I'm with the adults too.
Starting point is 01:32:52 And it's almost pretty much like, without exception, whenever you see a child hanging out with the adults, doing what the adults do, because that child is like special or whatnot. Yeah. Most of the time it's for the insert. Like, you mean like, so you can get the toy, right? Do you know who kids can insert themselves? Two big blonde Russians that never speak from the first movie.
Starting point is 01:33:16 But I'm going to remember them forever. I'm not going to remember kid number five, because he didn't do anything. He didn't have a silhouette. The characters, the the Yeager pilots in the first movie are fighting game silhouettes. Are we talking the three, the three Chinese brothers? They're cool. I'm going to remember them forever. Basketball, one of those Yeagers in the in this movie also has three pilots. Did you know that?
Starting point is 01:33:41 Because I didn't until Liam told me after we'd seen the movie. It's like one of those three pilots. I'm like, oh, shit, it's true. There's the designs of the Yeagers are simultaneously cooler and less memorable. Yeah. Well, who's the standout for you? I have the standout in my head where I'm like, you're still not great, but you're the best of the bunch of the orange kicker. Yes. Saber Athena.
Starting point is 01:34:07 It's the only one. All right. Time to look up a photo of this shit. Saber Athena looks a bit like an Ava. It's kind of fucking telling me all the right things. It's fat. It says it's the fastest one that has cool swords. But here's the thing. As a unit, you're getting gypsy one through five. Yeah, they're all gypsies or coyote tangos or a striker.
Starting point is 01:34:31 Eureka's that looks OK. Yeah, yeah, it is cool. It is cool, but you're not getting as much like three armed weirdness. Oh, girl. Churnal Alpha. Well, you can easily make you can easily make like an in-universe thing of like, well, that's the one that actually worked in the end. So yeah, based off of that. Or like, yeah, like Churnal Alpha, you have no neck, you know, like.
Starting point is 01:34:53 I cannot. If there's a bunch of Yeagers that are in a lineup, but they're all silhouettes, there's Churnal Alpha and there's. So it's it's always uprising, guys. What's always more interesting, they're all gypsy humans in anything is there's two types of technology in any fiction. There's we got to this effect via our own technical process. And then there is this is the technical process that causes this effect.
Starting point is 01:35:22 So in a sci-fi universe, you'll have shit like Star Trek's a decent example. Phasers and disruptors are completely different top to bottom. There's absolutely no technical interspersion between them. A phaser is just a super laser, super heated plasma. And as a disruptor is a fucking disintegrating beam. And that's why getting shot by a disruptor hurts like shit because it eats your fucking flesh away and it hurts.
Starting point is 01:35:47 It's a kill gun, it's a kill gun, right? It's the difference in in Star Wars. We're playing Kotor between Ion and fucking physical attack guns and shit like that. Then you have this is the type of engine, the magic engine that powers technology. Therefore, everything comes from this. And then you get a standardized set of things based on that tech. And so like Mass Effect, everything in Mass Effect works on Mass Effect fields. Every projectile weapon is the same type of projectile weapon.
Starting point is 01:36:15 They're just different shapes like the different one is always going to be way more interesting than the the the integrated one. Like and so that's what happens in Pacific Rim, Pacific Rim. Channel Alpha uses a weird nuclear reactor and like it slams its fists to kick the reactor on so it can punch good. Yeah, none of the other ones work like that. Yeah, that's weird. And why didn't they?
Starting point is 01:36:37 Gypsy was special because it was analog. So the the MPs didn't affect it. Why was Gypsy made like that? I don't know. Because that's what the designer of Gypsy decided to do. Because they were all designed by different countries where it seems like China is just like, wow, we all like this. You know what it feels like?
Starting point is 01:36:54 It feels like like the 10 years ago of Pacific Pacific Rim one. Yeah, was when everyone had their weird flip phones and then you had your razors and your sliders. No, you know what it is. And then we all move to the big black screen future that doesn't matter what whether it's an Android or I know I can tell you exactly what Pacific Rim and Pacific Rim two are Pacific Rim is the very first season of Battle Bots when people didn't know how to build those fucking robots.
Starting point is 01:37:23 And you saw all the all the most awful bullshit. Yeah, and Pacific Rim cutting room table to is the last season of Robot Wars when Razor and what the other one, but Razor was the one that always sticks in my mind, the spinning one. No, Razor is the one with the tooth. Yeah, sure. And Razor was the all time most dominant fucking thing. And people discovered the template around them.
Starting point is 01:37:49 And there was a nightmare. Nightmare is the spinning one with the block on the end. It's like, OK, these two types of designs, along with the really flat ones, looking those three designs are the best designs. Yeah, the clear one figure out how to make your own version of that because breaking the innards with a pierce or spinning something really fast so that the other thing explodes from force or being so small that you can't be hit. Those are the three things that work.
Starting point is 01:38:14 And then you get to see all the robots start to conform to those types. And I think here's the other branch gets controlled by what was Chernos weapon. It's fucking fist. Yeah, yeah, what was what was what was crimson crimson typhoons weapon? Awesome, glaives, some spinning legs and kicked a bunch. What was Gypsy's weapon? Oh, shot a beam shot a beam. What has mega buster?
Starting point is 01:38:35 That's it. Now, in uprising, they're just weapons. Yeah, I am the guy with the big ball and chain. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, whip. So and that's all I do. So we're all Gypsies, but I'm holding a whip. Oh, sorry. You've got a ball, blaster and chain and you've got your two swords and yeah, we're all carnages. Yeah, sure, sure, sure.
Starting point is 01:38:58 That's all we are. So that that that that was there. Now, instead of instead of picking a weird class, you picked a normal class that can use all the different weapons. I felt the kaiju designs were really similar. Yeah, the the the I mean, there's a really good one towards the end. That's the only kind of memorable one. I think yeah, that's so I feel like the kaiju's were they're not misses at all.
Starting point is 01:39:22 They're they're fine, but they don't really stand out. The the one there's one there's one in the first movie because they're they're stupidly Guillermo del Toro, where they got weird like heads that make no sense. And these are just like gaping mouths. Yeah, like, yeah, that's a big monster. Although one of them is called Raijin and that's that's cool. The the the the design, the kaiju designs here are like safe.
Starting point is 01:39:46 OK, right. But there is a good one. Yeah. And it's it's it's the good one. To anyone who sees it, that's quite clear. Yeah, you know, it's fine. And and yeah, the I don't know. I mean, performance is, you know, how'd you how'd you like Clint Eastwood's son? Sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:09 He's actually Clint Eastwood. Yeah, I know, I know. Because you could tell by the fact that he just stole Clint Eastwood's face and put him on his face. He's got the chisel jaw. Look, I'm Clint Eastwood face. It's fine. It's me. Finn was all right.
Starting point is 01:40:21 Yeah, he should have been, I don't know, he should have been more of a dick. He should have been a dick the entire movie. Well, he turned into just it was a gradual. It wasn't gradual. You just turned into it should have been more gradual. I agree. And but, you know, still whatever, man, it's it's robots fighting kaiju.
Starting point is 01:40:39 Yeah, it's exactly what I said at the end of the day. Guess what? It's a fucking and those fights are rad. Go see it. It's just it's so it's just there's no planet here where you should just a big expensive movie about somebody playing with their action figures. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And you know what? The fights are really good. Go see it and like they escalate.
Starting point is 01:40:57 And I don't mind that the thing we heard about how there's only one real kaiju battle. Like it's OK. It's fine. It makes sense. I still would prefer more. But what are we going to get? When are we going to get the fucking kaiju? The the the fucking help. Let me wait. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:41:15 Let me try that again. When are we going to get the robot that's powered by a fucking human will power? And then it comes out of the goddamn. Shut up and let me finish my sentence with the arms crossed. There's there's a maybe not that we're not going. We're not going to gunbuster it. But what's that going to happen? But there they definitely do have a slight Ava moment.
Starting point is 01:41:35 That is pretty cool that I enjoyed a lot. The thing that causes the the the thing where the Jaeger start moving very differently is really cool. Yes. Yeah. But anyway, and like, yeah, yeah, I think Jiren could beat a Jaeger. Probably is these ones. Is his shirt off? Yeah. Yeah. Well, for sure, he could beat these ones.
Starting point is 01:42:01 It's stronger than time. But you know who can beat Jiren with his shirt off? Who's that a child? Oh, I thought you were going to say El Hermano. Because El Hermano is just his Jiren's stronger big brother is way stronger. Oh, God, and not as strong as fucking Ultra Instinct Shaggy. But I mean, yeah, but what can be? And I'm a third of the way through Legend of Galactic Heroes.
Starting point is 01:42:28 I've been blitzing that shit a third of the way. Yeah. Remember, it was like 70 episodes. Yeah. Wow. I'm just shot gunning it. Because guess what? What? It's fucking good. Yeah. Good. It's fucking good. All right. That's it.
Starting point is 01:42:46 It's some classic ass old school anime. And. Is that that thing going on with Gundam? We're like, yeah, this is old. Oh, yeah. All right. Oh, yeah. No, no. Absolutely. Looked it up. Guess what? It was like 88.
Starting point is 01:42:59 No, but there's a really specific feel that he knows what I'm talking about. No, for you, dude, like if there's a like girls are showing up and they're staring up at the stars, you know, like it's it's old. It's doing that thing where, you know, it's got all your archetypes from your 80s anime like all of the characters and it's got. But it's also like a fucking like voice actor like festival. Oh, I bet everyone's there back before these Canadians.
Starting point is 01:43:27 I'm watching it in Japanese. No, I'm sorry. Sorry. I thought I meant the dub. I thought you were watching in dub watch. No, no, no. I thought you were going to say the dobsons and all that. No, I would King weeb woolly watch. I don't. I just I thought maybe the only way to get out on fucking best boy. Norio Wakamoto. Oh, of course.
Starting point is 01:43:42 That's why I just fly over there and suck his dick already. He's really old because he isn't dead. No, I thought he was dead. No, he's how I thought Dave Mira was alive. And you're super wrong. He just did sell in Dragon Ball. Okay. I wasn't. I don't know. He's he's he's okay. God forbid. Maybe you'll love him, but you won't
Starting point is 01:44:04 suck his dick because he's old. Yeah, that's horrible. That's sex. Hey, that's the only thing stopping me. How about that one? Um, anyway, no, that's supposed to be. And it's so weird how like they just announced the box set for this thing and it's apparently like eight hundred dollars and it's like the anime of a legend. Jesus Christ, but it's quality, quality, quality shit. And it does. You did ask me, like, is it Game of Thrones in space?
Starting point is 01:44:32 And I was like, no, and it's not, but it kind of does a bit of Game of Thrones. And somebody sent me a political maneuvering. Somebody sent me a clip of this show right after the podcast last week, which was very shocking to me because it was, hey, look, the ship got hit by a blast in space is a space fight, whatever. Yeah. And then all the ship is going down, you know, that thing that even though they're in space, the ship starts to fall. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:58 And then it cuts to the inside and it's a guy picking his guts up off the fucking floor like, OK, didn't that one? There's a tonal jump that I wasn't really expecting. So the main thing about the show is that it's really no nonsense when it comes to, like, you know, I told you, like, there's no, like, dumb kids or anything like that. Yeah, like, it's actually it's so refreshing how like there's no kids. It's like just intelligent adults just talking. It's like the first couple of Star Wars.
Starting point is 01:45:29 You're like just you're like, yeah, no, you're waiting for the foot to drop the shoe to drop in something awful. You know, no, everyone's just pretty smart. Look, it's me, Toy Child, like, out of here. The biggest problem you have is not with idiots, but it's just like smart people that are also assholes or smart people that are too egotistical. You know, like, that's your that's kind of your issue. OK, well, it's not like fucking Zeta where fucking Camille and Jared
Starting point is 01:45:58 are having the dumbest rivalry ever. Yeah, that just over like over nothings and over fucking. Well, it starts over nothing and then it escalates very quickly. But it escalates also into nothing. But in this case, yeah, in this case, like I said, the youngest kid you get is just this little kid hanging around. He's like 16, but he's fine. He's a very normal, calm kid.
Starting point is 01:46:19 Yeah. And like over the course of the story, he's learning how to be a soldier and he's getting better at it. So like, so I'm obviously comparing this to Gundam because they're of a similar era and the specific thing that you're talking about of like dumb kids ruining the show, the worst, the worst part about Gundam of all that I've watched is why are you motherfuckers not actually locking these things down? What, the kids?
Starting point is 01:46:45 No, the fucking Gundams, the amount of the amount of times a stupid child has a stupid tantrum and steals the biggest, most powerful robot in the world. And turns out to be radical at piloting it. I'm not, I'm not even talking about those times. I'm talking about all the times the other kids just hop in and go, I'm going to help and then they get their shit ruined. And it's like, yeah, dumbass. And Bright's like, oh, no, like lock it, Bright, you stupid idiot.
Starting point is 01:47:19 Um, apparently the word, the Japanese word for used to say your Excellency is and people say that a lot in different ways all the time. And I feel like it's about 20% of the dialogue in the show is people just going all the time. But it's very good. It's very good. I highly recommend it so far. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:45 And I played some games, but I mean, like we don't know who cares. Let's move on. Hey, man, what up? Like, sorry, sorry, sorry. I just something just came to mind. Some games I finally I want to just I want to take back what I said because I've dropped like fucking probably 20 hours into into the breach. I can't stop.
Starting point is 01:48:02 It's so good. And I want to tell you that was made for you. I want to take back what I said about the electric like company. Yeah, they're the lightning. Like I don't like them. They don't they're so fucking strong. OK, it's so good. How good they are.
Starting point is 01:48:14 It's crazy. What was the mental change that caused that I didn't get any stronger. They didn't change. I did not know that one of them starts armored. So it takes one less damage on every hit. That's really insanely strong. And I did not know that the chain of enemies attempting like touching being zapped applies to buildings.
Starting point is 01:48:39 So we can use that buildings and the buildings won't get her but the enemies will. Yes. Oh, that's super good. It's fucking good. I wish we had known that's super good as soon as they approach the building and you just you walk up and zap anything it's connected to. So anything that's a building is fine.
Starting point is 01:48:55 Anything that's attacking a melee building with one or two health just pops explodes. That's amazing. That's so good. I need to unlock them. It's yeah. Yeah, they work. They fucking work. Thanks, building still.
Starting point is 01:49:10 Judoka is also cool. And the other guy and the hazardous mechs are fun to like there's these mechs where it's like they deal heavy damage, but they get hurt on every attack they do. And you have to kill to heal back. Are you always finding bugs? Yes, always bugs. Yeah. Occasionally, there's robots that are like bad robots, bug robots.
Starting point is 01:49:29 No, no, no. There's like robots that are mecha that are like, OK, lose control. So there's these AI enemies as well. But for the most part, it's it's bugs. OK. Anyway, yeah, I want to retract my bugs. Fight the robots. That's what the real title should have been.
Starting point is 01:49:47 Ah, they're kaiju. Yeah, into the breeches. A giant, I guess. Pacific Rim. There is some genius plays you make, though, where you're like, I'm so fucking smart. Oh, no, blows up and you go. So I'm a genius. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:50:01 Yeah, or oh, no. And then it works. And you go, I'm the greatest. Oh, yeah. I meant to do that. There's so many times that percentage is at 50. It's all at 50, where you account for everything in one move and then you do it and it plays out and then you forgot one aspect
Starting point is 01:50:17 and the whole thing crumbles apart. You are the opposite. We're like, oh, I'm so fucked. And then it happens and it works out and it's perfect. And you're just like, I'm the fucking best strategy games. I'm a god. Yeah. Anyway. What was up?
Starting point is 01:50:33 You watched a legend galactic here as I told you a bit about this. I saw the the movie adaptation of Blade of the Immortal. Yeah, which is done by 100 movies a year to Kashi Mike. And the last movie I saw of his was Thirteen Samurai, the Thirteen Samurai. It's very, very similar in quality. It was good. How is our swastika man? So I was going to say when the hero is done, there is a big producer name
Starting point is 01:51:01 and it's just like Jeremy like Smith. I'm like, that's an odd, you know, name for a Japanese live action movie produced by Jeremy Smith. And I'm just imagine when like this manga is brought to him and he's like, all right, so you want to adapt this? This is cool. This is the Samurai thing. And he's two pages and he goes, oh, no, we're fucking not.
Starting point is 01:51:23 And they're like, what's wrong? That's that's the symbol. That's the mangy symbol for that's mangy. It's good. He's like, it's a horse, man. Oh, so that's changed throughout the entire movie. Regardless, it's still it's it's almost the same thing. It's just like two subtle movements where like one part is just like a rotated
Starting point is 01:51:45 diamond. It's a little more simple. Like it's it's it's more of a simple logo, but it looks fucking cool. Like, you know, he still has this cool kimono or whatever. It's a boss fight movie. Is it just a picture of Hitler's face? No, it's not. We censored it. Why is it a picture of the leader's exploding face?
Starting point is 01:52:06 I don't think it is. But it was still a really good movie. It was a little too long. It was like two hours, 30 minutes, because that could have been two hours. But how much mango was that? I don't I don't know exactly because I I read the comics. I read the Dark Horse 30 page comic. They were ripping you off.
Starting point is 01:52:22 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I don't know how much it was, but it didn't need to be that long because there wasn't really there was a it was a revenge plot. There was a million bosses thrown in. Man, she's got to fight everybody. Cool. He got has to fight everybody. And there's like a hundred man slayer, like three hundred man slayer scenes. OK, like so when guts kills a hundred men, think of three of those,
Starting point is 01:52:46 but they don't get more exciting. They kind of stay the same. And I'm like, I could have maybe done two, three. No. You know, it was just like, come on, get with it. You're going to be really beat up. And there's going to be a shot of all the bodies on the floor. And so there was still really good, though, and pretty quality. And I'm kind of afraid that that's what a vagabond movie would turn into.
Starting point is 01:53:11 Just little cool bits. And it would just just be the cool part. Everything. So then you'd want the maybe Kenshin thing or maybe two longish movies to try to get all the subtleties in. If there was going to be an adaptation, I mean, I've thought about it a lot. And I still wrote your screenplays. I still conclude that I want vagabond to never be adapted into anything. And I have an anime. Never.
Starting point is 01:53:34 There's enough episodes, OK. The medium it's in is perfect for why would you say something so bold? You're so conscious. Oh, man, I patched it a really good video recently about the Junji Ito collection. Yes, like, boy, that that fucking adaptation does not take advantage of shit from anime. Like that shit lives and dies by the manga page turn, essentially.
Starting point is 01:53:59 Like that Junji Ito's scare crap is like unadaptable. Junji, the ability to stare at it, the ability to stare at it right for a while and get creeped out. It's not just that. It's like, yeah, it's you. He always has the establishing shot of the creepy thing. And then you have to physically turn the page yourself. And it's you that scared yourself. Yeah, it requires your like input, you know,
Starting point is 01:54:22 which is also what makes video games like true scary work a lot better than a lot of other mediums. You have to walk down there. You have to go in the basement. Yeah. I also I actually put in a bit more time to see of thieves. And I kind of warmed up to a little bit where I was able to get out there, saw cracking. Someone became the first pirate lord, apparently.
Starting point is 01:54:42 Really? Yeah, they boosted the shit out of themselves. They did. They did apparently or that. And I had some fun interactions. I like I found a fun island where and when you really get out there in the the ways, it feels like a more active Wind Waker, not Assassin's Creed, Assassin's Creed was really kind of it was a small part of the game.
Starting point is 01:55:04 Well, not a small part, but you know, of a larger thing. So when I actually got out there and started doing some things and I got like one treasure, but mostly was a bunch of things that went bad. I went to this island. I came back, my boat was destroyed. Someone had walked by or sailed by, destroyed it. And when when you have that penalty, what happens, right?
Starting point is 01:55:26 What can you imagine? I went all the way a lot through a map. I got to an island. My boat is now destroyed. So any guesses like how do you get the player? You got to fix your fucking boat, I assume. So what it is is a mermaid is and I didn't know what this was at first.
Starting point is 01:55:41 It was very exciting. I saw a weird light and I'm like, that's where my ship was. You walk and there's a mermaid and it's a really weird, odd design. And it's just kind of waving there and you talk to her. It's like, do you do you want your boat back? I can make your boat back. But like, but what? And you just say yes or whatever you just click on her.
Starting point is 01:56:02 And then you get sent to Fools Island, where all losers go when they respawn. OK, and I hadn't really gained anything. So I don't know if there's an actual actual penalty. They did it cost money and I wasn't sure. But so you always get sent to this loser island of losers that are all trying to get back on the boat. All right, let's try again. Are there pirates on the beach squirting ketchup on their belly?
Starting point is 01:56:26 Like, what are you, you know, what are you doing? And I also had fun, an actual fun bit of naval combat where, oh, and it's to load a cannonball is the most arduous. Go over here, pick it up, put it in, load it set. Like, it's not like a sazakiri where it's like pretty instantaneous. Yeah, Monster Hunter. Yeah, it's exactly the same. OK, good.
Starting point is 01:56:46 Loading a cannon is this fucking S9 process and you're let you shoot it. You're like, roll to make it faster. I could have swung ten times, my sword. No, what you better do with your first cannonball is hit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I miss by like a hair. And then I'm like, oh, they're they're firing too. So and then my you're on a sinking ship. And we're sucked, man.
Starting point is 01:57:10 It was hard back then. All that effort. And then you fucking whiff. Yeah, like, I like you're in. No, you want to look for those numbers. You want to see that the ball going to the distance and then some like nice 200 pops up. Yeah, so I warmed up to it.
Starting point is 01:57:25 I think I'll try to play it a bit more. But I'm like, I'm cautiously trying to go through it. And what if someone so what if someone is like. They reveal that like somewhere in the in the world, there's a gummy fruit. In the sea of thieves. Now what happens? Oh, I got to do some research, I guess. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:57:46 Now, I can go places. I also say something. Sorry, what? What? Is a gummy fruit? Is that not the name of it? What are you talking about? The one piece fruit. Oh, that fucking thing.
Starting point is 01:58:01 I forget. I thought that's what it was called. All right. Anyway, one piece. It doesn't sound like a lot. And all right. So aside from that, I was on a wizard and the bruiser podcast. Devil fruit, devil fruit, devil fruit.
Starting point is 01:58:15 I'm looking it up right now. I don't know. So you did something with them, right? Wizard and the bruiser. Jake, they had to do street fighter stuff. We talked about Street Fighter on that podcast. So very similarly, they had me talk about Godzilla or they did a lot of really, really good research.
Starting point is 01:58:33 They knew their shit and we just we just did a podcast together. It was just all Godzilla all the time. So I was I was marking out to them and they're marking out to me. And we just went through almost every movie really, really quickly. And that was really fun. And the last thing is this leads into my Predator Zion 5000 story. Yes. Predator. What Helios Helios is that?
Starting point is 01:59:00 Yeah, my computer unfortunately died a few days ago. Yeah, just straight up. No boot, right? Just dead. It would boot for a bit. Then it would know no boot. No, that's the deadest. Yeah. So I took it into a shop and I'm like, how long to get like in a few days. And he's like, yeah, two and a half weeks. It's got to get shipped.
Starting point is 01:59:18 And I'm like, OK, so unfortunately, I can't stream. I don't really have a PC backup PC that can do it do the job. But my eyes started to do the guile streetfighter animated cartoon bugging out where I see a ginormous box that says Predator Helios three hundred right next to me. And I'm like, I mean, you like on the counter where I was in the in the the the oh. OK, yeah, OK, it was getting repaired or anything. It was it was full in the box.
Starting point is 01:59:53 I'm staring at the size of this fucking thing in the box. And I'm like of this lad soapy. Yes, like it's so big. And I'm like, I can't I can't let's say this computer is fucked. And they're like, oh, here's your data, whatever. It's like I want to like finally get like a desktop desktop. So I'm still looking at this. I'm like, oh, I want to throw up and I can't think about a big boy.
Starting point is 02:00:16 Maybe I don't think I can. Maybe it's time for a bigger man. Yeah, you've been you've been laptoping it for like a decade. Because these things serve me well. This is the first problem it's ever given me. And I hate that the first problem is the last one. Don't you want to know what it's like to be the little spoon, Matt? I would.
Starting point is 02:00:34 I would. This laptop can spoon me as well. But yeah, I don't think I can afford it and justify it right now. So I'm going to have to wait for that to come in. And yeah, that's me. Oh, shit. All right. What happened this week? Well, nothing.
Starting point is 02:00:53 Some things happened. Bunch of lies happened. Yeah, I want to talk about that. No, there wasn't even a good lot. I didn't see any funny any fun lies. So you sent this story and Matt and this is a really interesting one. Yeah, it is how you like it. Fascinating. What do we got?
Starting point is 02:01:15 This is a story about the guys who made Rogue Legacy. All right. The next game you mean the guys who made don't shit your pants. I mean, the guys who made Full Metal Furies. Now, I remember talking about like this game from being like, oh, shit, here comes the game from the guys that made the thing I love. And Full Metal Furies kind of just came and like evaporated on day one.
Starting point is 02:01:42 Wow, the name of this article. A destructoid is called Why is Rogue Legacy's follow up considered a quote? Pretty massive failure. And that's a quote from the developers of the game. Right. Because because Full Metal Furies came out and kind of just landed on no one. No one reviewed it. For anyone who doesn't remember, it was kind of like a roguelike beat him up.
Starting point is 02:02:04 And this this like the guy who wrote this article, Patrick Hancock on destructoid was one of the only people to actually do a review for. Yeah, that's the weird thing is like no one even reviewed it. And it was and it was just kind of ignored for a while. And it was it was a bit unclear as to why and what was happening with it. And it seems like part of it was because very positive reception on steam. It seems like a part of it was because like you play it and then it's like this kind of, you know, action beat him up thing and it's fun.
Starting point is 02:02:36 But there's an aspect to it that is a huge element that was never shown that they don't tell you about in that there is a huge puzzle component to this. And it's like what not? And it's not just puzzle in the sense of like, oh, figure out how to slide this the glass window. I think it's described as not type the witness puzzles, but not that far off. But you get like a close to Jonathan Blow.
Starting point is 02:03:02 That is not appearing in this trailer at all because they wanted to. They didn't want that to be obvious. They want they wanted it to be a hidden thing, right? We just talked about. Yes, I know. And like so that's so that. And so they're realizing that they made the mistake of like basically not telling everyone exactly what this game really was.
Starting point is 02:03:23 And that and thus it fell on. And so it was lost on everyone. And so people that played it thought these little puzzle extra optional things are just for people that are want to that want to get completion or whatever. When it turns out it's super necessary towards like a massive element of the plot. That's important. Yeah, there's like an ending you don't get. There's an ending routes near style that you need to do this puzzling to do. But you have to complete this puzzling element to see the truth behind everything.
Starting point is 02:03:52 But like they wanted it to be a discovery. And apparently there's really good reasons why it's set that it's set up that way that you you get to not unlike some kind of what you're describing. I'm thinking like hyper light had something similar to that. But they're just talking about how it commercially it was the worst idea ever. And it just fucking tank them. But this this is described from the developers Twitter. It says the puzzles are half the game.
Starting point is 02:04:20 We wanted to keep it a secret and we succeeded. But I think in hindsight, that was a really bad idea, like really bad. See, here's the thing. And I'm going to go back to use Warframe as an example, because it's the most applicable to me right now. That's the kind of thing that assumes people are going to buy your game, right? That works coming off of a game like Rogue Legacy. Yeah, we're excited to see what these guys have to offer.
Starting point is 02:04:45 I heard that they're making a bean a mob. I was like, oh, cool. Yeah, what I mean is is that the ha ha fuck you. I tricked you works when you have a game like, I don't know, Metal Gear Solid 2. Sure. Something that you are guaranteed that that thing is going to sell a bajillion copies. Well, the line Warframe, for example, gets to pull it shit because it's fucking free. So if people get that far, then they get that far, whatever.
Starting point is 02:05:10 And they pretty much that by the fact that it's like it's a really good secret. And like it's a nice reward for people that do get there. But like like a better, a better comparison that I could make is probably people are making notes on paper about like that. Looks like Feds. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's the thing I mean, I'll go. I hate Feds so much. But like Feds had a shit ton of fucking press forever.
Starting point is 02:05:35 Yeah, it was an indie darling for many long time and was pretty much a guaranteed success. So they were free to put all that stupid game ruining bullshit in it. But here it's like I heard about this game once. Once. Yeah. Yeah. And it was from Clems. I was not through. And if it's Clems said, oh, yeah, you hear Phil Metafuries, I'm like, what's that?
Starting point is 02:05:58 He said it's a beat him up by the creators broke legacy. There's a line in here. That is that I thought was really good. And it was if someone told me back then, we could that we could either make a game that really surprised a few people or a game that kind of surprised a lot of people. We change our philosophy on marketing entirely, right? So like, like, like, yeah, the basically the mistake they made,
Starting point is 02:06:24 you know, was kind of like putting in that one crazy trek for the for the two people that will do it. When we were watching the trailer, you saw colorful action and it was pixel heart. Man, that can describe almost anything that's been released in the next next five minutes. So guess what, though? Right. The other content, the other thing was this was ready two years ago. But they delayed it to put in the multiplayer online component
Starting point is 02:06:52 to so that people could like play together. Apparently, that's the net code on that's not great. It's bad. It's bad. And they and so that's what they're working on fixing. So they should have waited either longer. Well, they should have made it local only is what they're saying. And like that. And so and like the fact that these types of like
Starting point is 02:07:09 classic looking pixel art games have been becoming you have been becoming exactly like if we did this two years ago, we would have at least been ahead of the curve or if you were able to show your puzzle element in your marketing, you'd be say, look, this is a lot more unique than you think. I don't know. They didn't. It's a storm, not a perfect storm, but a storm of like bad things coming together.
Starting point is 02:07:31 Yeah, because like also like I understand and there have been success stories of developers making a game and polishing it and fine tuning it for years and years and years. But like the idea of like we had the game ready to two years ago, but we wanted to add a feature. That seems insane to me. That seems like the craziest of them all. And like in terms of like, no, put it put it out at
Starting point is 02:07:55 and so up later as a patch or something. And so with with as few people, like because it was like so like so few people like actually took a look at it when especially back then. Like one of the first things that happened was a team, like a group of four friends tried to play online and couldn't. And then they all left bad reviews. And that was like a massive thing because it was like, oh, shit, four bad reviews out of none.
Starting point is 02:08:18 And then you get in that moment. It's like, that's the feature we delayed the game for. The reason that it's getting bad reviews is because of the reason that we delayed the game for. So we had not delayed the game. That feature wouldn't exist. Therefore, no bad reviews. Therefore, and so on and so forth.
Starting point is 02:08:34 So a lot of stuff, this article does go on to talk about. Oh, that's a long ass article. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because he because basically this guy that reviewed it and liked it was like an eight point five. Yeah. And he was the only one. And then he was the he basically was like, what happened, right? And so he's going, he's having a discussion with the
Starting point is 02:08:50 seller door games about like what the fuck this game actually was. And like the surprise of like all this crazy extra puzzle stuff towards the end. And a lot of the there's been patches and a lot of stuff has been fixed since, you know, and so there's a lot of like improvement over like the and they're trying to figure out how to like maybe rework and, you know, figure this whole thing out. But ultimately, there's a massively rewarding like back end of this game that lies behind a huge puzzle element.
Starting point is 02:09:16 And people were not necessarily signing up for that when they purchased it. Everybody wants to be Frog Fractions. I don't think everyone wants to be Frog Fractions. But everyone wants to have a holy shit moment. Everybody wants a Frog Fractions in their game. Or you design it to be there or a feeling that's like Frog. Even Frog Fractions, too, didn't succeed in its own. Frog Fractions.
Starting point is 02:09:42 There's this exact same story, but swap out the game. If you heard of a name that I just saw, kept seeing it everywhere. It was called Where the Water Tastes Like Wine. Yeah, I heard about that. Right. The exact same thing. He was the former programmer, head designer or something on Gone Home. And he's like, I'm going to put all of my money into making my own game. Well, like the water tastes like wine.
Starting point is 02:10:05 It's like a weird kind of like a visual novel. And it's like cool looking. It's cool. And he's like, it came out and he's like, I have made zero dollars. And he's like, well, what's it like? Gone Home? Devolver, I think, even. No, it got a publisher.
Starting point is 02:10:20 No, it's more like a visual novel where you're clicking and meeting interesting characters and they're all fantasy based. And it's like got weird writing and whatever. And he's like, I put it on Steam. I did everything we should have done and just like nothing, just nothing. I haven't never heard of it. I've never heard. I had never heard about it until this morning when I saw
Starting point is 02:10:38 an article say that's probably the same article said, Hey, they're my game, fucking bomb real bad. That's the first I'd ever heard of it. Well, then. But I am coming off a huge success. That's the sort of thing. And then we. Yeah, I just, I guess it wasn't marketed.
Starting point is 02:10:53 Also, Steam's trash fired. So your games, if you're in an indie right now, put on the. So the fucking switch. I can't. I mean, the back end of that four review story is that like that those four dropped them off the Steamfront page. Yeah. You know, because that's how that works.
Starting point is 02:11:08 There was a, there was a GDC talk about selling games on Steam. Yeah, with the worst slides ever. It was the most depressing shit ever. And it's like, OK, 40 games a day, your games going to be up on the front page for this many minutes, 38 of these 40 games are not going to pay enough to make minimum wage and most of the people making them don't care because half of them are fucking asset, asset flips or fucking mobile fucking pieces of shit that just got dumped on the store.
Starting point is 02:11:41 And so for you, Jimmy Indy man, who gets his 12 minutes on the Steamfront page, you will have to be part of the point. Zero, zero, one percent of people that get looked at. And then then you'll have to get bought. It's like, it's oh my god, I'm really glad I'm showing the game I'm working on on switch at past, not the Steam version. There's both. But yeah, I saw a fucking GDC.
Starting point is 02:12:06 Slide. That's the one that just I saw. What? That's the exact same ones he's talking about. But which one did you talk about something else? Oh, sorry. GDC slide. GDC slide that was like, I don't I don't understand. I want to know what came after, but I don't. OK, it's one of those. But it's just someone at a podium and the slide says
Starting point is 02:12:28 the PC and console the PC and console divide is becoming slowly a racial divide. And I was just like, that's different. What? That is different planet. What is this? Yeah, man. Oh, what? What does this slide even mean? I anyway, it was some dumb shit.
Starting point is 02:12:54 Follow the money. Keep your nose clean. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I fuck barefoot is legal, people. Eight hundred games released on Steam a year. That's more than most consoles got. What does that mean? What is that barefoot is legal? Yeah, it's like it's because I saw that somewhere. And we talked about it.
Starting point is 02:13:15 It's that fucking Facebook page with the crazy people. Yes, yes, yes, yes, I forgot. I forgot. All right. How did you forget that wonderful moment? Anyway, so that's that's a shame for full metal furies. I think it's like going to happen more and more often. Oh, man, I also. Steam needs to start backing down on the there's they don't care.
Starting point is 02:13:37 They made the most money they've ever made this year. I know the problem is that when you read it quickly, it looks like its name is full metal furries. I always think that's probably that's that's actually going to take a percentage away, but also add a percentage. So, like, I feel really bad for cellar door games because the game looks cool and it's very interesting that it has that extra hook. And will you smile him because he can already tell exactly what I'm going to say.
Starting point is 02:14:02 Fuck you. Fuck you. God damn it. But now that I know that it has that fucking witness style, fucking puzzle, and I'm never fucking playing that game ever. I want to try it ever. I hate that shit. Yeah, I hate it. Yeah. Yeah, you do. I fucking hate it when you play a cool game and then halfway through the cool concept, instead of working on that,
Starting point is 02:14:27 they decide to go, hey, get out of pen and paper so you can do some cryptograph shit with some assholes on a forum. The description of this whole story does sound like Pat Arsenic, basically. Yeah, like that's why I hate Feds so much, by the way. Yeah, I know. It's because they stopped working on how good the game was and started working on this bullshit translator language. I don't give a fuck, man.
Starting point is 02:14:50 I want to do fucking weird space puzzles. Hmm. Witness is a good game, though. Yeah, from what I played, it would seem super cool because that's what the game is. And I knew that what you signed up for. Like I signed up for all of these these puzzles that will be weird. Cool. Speaking of weird.
Starting point is 02:15:10 Yep. Childish Landino himself. Good. Wow, that is good. Took that name. He made it better. Donald Glover was supposed to be working on the Deadpool TV show. Animated cartoon. And apparently you don't see this, but it's amazing. Just laughing at this. This title wasn't because of racism because he so he wrote up.
Starting point is 02:15:34 He wrote up a rather it fell apart and then rumors were flying around saying that like, oh, it's because he's too busy working on everything. Because I think the official statement said we couldn't get our schedules to mesh and that's the standard. So then and then like he everyone was talking about how he's he's too busy. And so he kind of came out and went, I was not too busy to work on Deadpool for the record. And then he dropped a 15 page screenplay of an of what he wrote
Starting point is 02:16:01 of that he wrote that day, actually, because you can tell he read it that day of a screenplay for Deadpool. And it's this ridiculous like adventure of Deadpool protecting the last rhino that's about to die of the white rhino like things. And it has references that are current to the day it was released. And it's just meta. And it's a commentary on like the fact that him and Marvel couldn't get along. And pretty much about why.
Starting point is 02:16:29 Why did you hire him? Because he was hot at the time. And he's hot. But they want. And they wanted that hotness needs to be hotter. But they wanted that hotness without like having to deal with. He is all their stuff without without making what what it makes hot. Atlanta season one had been out. They wanted the hotness, but they didn't want like that's too hot.
Starting point is 02:16:50 Yeah, a little bit too spicy. You know, hey, this person's cool with the kids. We want that the cool with the kids guy. Great. We got him. Wait, why are they cool with the kids? Because they hate the man. Oh, no. Like that's the actual thing got posted up somewhere.
Starting point is 02:17:08 But it's pretty. It's Twitter. It's a little it's deleted. That's OK. Since then. Yeah, but it is a pretty funny script. This this needs to win an award at the Petty Olympics to go to 15 pages to go to these lengths. That's amazing. Like it's super petty, but it is super ballsy.
Starting point is 02:17:29 I appreciate astonishing levels of and you will never work. You did not give a fuck because they will never hire you. I'm finding you bridges to burn it. But it's not a real screenplay. No, it's not. Right. But it's mocking. It's just him basically explaining why he left and why the project failed through the guise of a screenplay.
Starting point is 02:17:47 But yeah, that's kind of it's like it's made up enough to argue that it's not a bridge burning. But it smells like a bridge. I can smell the bridge. It smells like bridge. I don't know where it is, though. There's where there's fire. But we don't.
Starting point is 02:18:01 So you said it's meta and I got confused for a second and thought in my mind is the new meta bridge burning. Is that part of the established secret bridge burning? Bridge burning where no one knows that it was burns. They continue as long as the people standing on that bridge. Don't look down. It's singed. They still think you're you're you're cool with that can support my weight. Yeah, I can walk across that. Absolutely.
Starting point is 02:18:28 You just don't look down. It's very dark. So no, it's it's a weird way to fucking like burn your your your way out of it. But it's funny and it seems to imply that he got paid to walk away from it. So. Oh, yeah. Landino, that's a weird deal. He will. He will. I mean, well, here's the thing. I think you would get paid to walk away from the thing if you don't write a 15 page script mocking the company that just paid you. Usually, that's how that should work.
Starting point is 02:18:57 Hollywood's weird, man. Like, hey, here's we're going to pay you. But don't talk about how badly this went. Oh, you posted 15 pages about how badly it went. A reminder, the good life is up on Kickstarter again. So what are you looking at? Is there a bug? Is there something I just realized?
Starting point is 02:19:18 One of the bricks in our fucking thing has a cat paw in it. Like a cat imprint. A cat stepped on one of our bricks when it was being made at the brick factory. Oh, I see it. That does look like a cat paw. That's very weird. It could be random. But that seems it does look like that seems impossible. Yeah, anything's possible.
Starting point is 02:19:40 Or like a ferret or some shit stepped on one of our bricks. Yeah, one of those brick ferrets or one of them really strong cats with just like massive forearms that could just push into brick. Yeah, those muscle cats. That's not a real speaking of cats. Where? And dogs. OK. So yeah, if you want to resupport, oh, there it is, the good life, you can check out. I did it.
Starting point is 02:20:01 I did not do the first one because I was like, there's no way it's going to make it. And I am more optimistic. That is a fuck that is the ultimate Kickstarter trap. It is. Unfortunately, it's not going to fucking make it. Why would I even bother spending the two seconds? Right? Yeah, right. But I did it for this because that looks like it's got a better shot. It's a much better kicks.
Starting point is 02:20:22 That's a much better pitch overall, because the what's changed showing gameplay was most notable and actually saying what you do. The game just the its first thing was like it's a life simulator. And it didn't say the main thing, which is there's a murder much like deadly premonition or whatever, and you have to solve it. They did say that, but I guess it was buried after. OK, they were trying their best. And oh, shit, people, we need to get the other 50 percent of people that like pets
Starting point is 02:20:55 through me, dogs, too. All that wasn't enough. So. So what we're discovering today is that it's important to tell people what your game is about. There's a theme. That's the theme. Yeah, maybe not too much, but maybe a little. There was no console tier, I think, maybe on the first thing. And first of all, it was on Indiegogo, which is Garbo compared to Kickstarter.
Starting point is 02:21:21 No, no, it wasn't even on Indiegogo. It was on the other one that was on FIG. It was on FIG and everyone's like, what the hell? It only works for guaranteed slam dunks. Yeah. In this game, the player's two main goals. Pay off your debt with money you earn from doing photography jobs in town and solve the mystery of the murder that took place in the happiest town.
Starting point is 02:21:36 Half of that is too real. It's up to you to figure out which. Yep. So there it is. Better make it. It will see. We'll see. I mean, I hold you responsible. Little do you know, but those those those fucking good life trailers. Did you know that turning into a dog or cat only happens in the last 10
Starting point is 02:21:59 minutes of the game and is, in fact, the big reveal spoilers. It is. And it's locked behind a language you had to learn. I fucking hate FES so much, dude. So glad FES two got canceled. I enjoy cereal, but I haven't had any in a very long time as it's nothing but sugar and carbs. But you're eating the wrong cereals. Yeah, you can eat those those grains.
Starting point is 02:22:24 I found a Keto cereal. What is it? It's like just the Keto Kettios. Jordan's. What's it made of? Has. OK, it has a little bit of sugar. It has like very little sugar. I'm I'm OK.
Starting point is 02:22:37 I've been eating it. It's great. Yeah, all right. It's made out. But I also like I do like a nice meaty breakfast, so I don't mind. No, I know. But but yeah. So do you like Funko Pop cereal? I like Cuphead. So this is Funko Pops is making cereal now.
Starting point is 02:22:54 What is. So here's the thing, though. Yeah. Cuphead Funko figure is the good one because it's accurate and it's not a Funko Pop. It's just a Funko figure. And these are labeled Funko, but they do have the creepy pop eyes
Starting point is 02:23:09 for the Freddy Kruger and the Elvira one. What a what a motley crew. That is this killer's row of relevant characters that kids love. I mean, Cuphead, I guess. Yeah, this is weird and pointless. I don't I don't know where they're going. This is not an April Fool's joke. Yeah, this was like three days before.
Starting point is 02:23:28 It's super weird. This is really bizarre. I don't like that. Also, the cereal looks like shit. Yeah, guess what Elvira's Funko's and Cuphead Funko's look the exact same. Well, I mean, they're all the exact same. They're just colored differently and using the color wheel.
Starting point is 02:23:46 It's just fucking shitty fruit loops with a color wheel hit random. If Mattel suddenly came out with cereal, I don't think I trust it. And who the hell is this? It's the generic Funko person. Is there some some redhead kid? I don't know. He looks happy. Freddie Funko. That's clearly that's him. That's their own guy.
Starting point is 02:24:07 The Funko Freddy Funko Funko child. When did that become a thing for the cereal, probably? No, he was a mascot before. He's wearing the crown of the Funko of the love. How we're talking about Legend of Galactic Heroes, Pacific Rim game stuff and will they stop being hung over? And now we're talking about Funko cereal and he seems like he's back. He is back to being hung over.
Starting point is 02:24:29 I'm just I'm trying to interpret like what this company is trying to do. They're trying to own every part of your day. Yeah, there's a there's a cereal for every fandom. Oh, man, there is not. Oh, fuck, did you see that amazing tweet storm of somebody doing the Ready Player One fucking analogy? And it was like Ready Player One is like you go to play Melee at your friend's house,
Starting point is 02:24:51 but he's modded it into being unrecognizable. And like, look, it's Goku and and Corey from Corey's in the house. And you're like, I just want to play Smash Bros, dude. And at the end and at the end, it's like whatever. So the point of the story is I went to my friend to play Melee, but that game's not even that great. Anyway, play a good game. Idiots, because there's the other the other hot tape that shoutouts
Starting point is 02:25:19 that Mr. Phil on Twitter for like putting it out was Ready Player One like nerd should be happy because Ready Player One is their Black Panther. You had that. That's the worst. Oh, that's a take. I saw that. That's a take. That's that's the best take. You know what? If we're if we're going to go, we're going to go back there. I want to give a big claps to Mega 64
Starting point is 02:25:45 for the funniest Black Panther themed YouTube video ever. It is. I didn't see it. You didn't see it. I didn't see it. It's good. I I will show it to you after the podcast. It is like 45 seconds long. OK, it's it's especially fucked up that they're using Reddit Player One, which highlights thousands of movies that were reddit player. Why? I'm pretty sure I said right.
Starting point is 02:26:11 Oh, it's still works. What did I say? Sad to like Reddit Player One. OK, man. So Reddit Player One celebrates the thousands of movies that is what the guy just said. All of these were like nerd movies that they could prop up and look. Hey, look, yeah, this is the thing we like and it's successful.
Starting point is 02:26:35 I mean, the only thing it's missing is Star Wars. And even then, I think there's some light Star Wars ishness that they did get in there. And I'm pissed because I have to see Reddit Player One because people told me about specific characters that only I would love that are in Reddit Player One. That is the worst thing ever. Now, I just said I want to see what they do compared to the books. And if they actually make it like worse or not, I'm I'm legit curious.
Starting point is 02:27:01 Apparently, it's much better. Interesting. Apparently, it is fine. Interesting. I have seen a disproportionately high surprising amount of people on Twitter going like, yeah, it was fine. And I'm like, remember, it's not actually the iron giant. It's just someone. It's some guy that likes the iron. It's some jackass who didn't get the iron giant, but he really likes it. Yeah, that's all. That's all it is.
Starting point is 02:27:25 And like, that's a fine excuse, at least you gave me an excuse to be like, why the fuck is he doing that? Oh, OK. Well, yeah. Oh, man. Yeah, I was going to try to like watch that video. But like their fucking page, the YouTube is just down. So it's it's being hit. YouTube's down forever. Well, the the Mega 64 pages. Oh, really? That sucks. There is something that was just announced
Starting point is 02:27:57 called Vigil Prophecy Bestowed. Yeah, I agree with this. I have not. I'm good for bestowing some. What? Oh, I did hear about that. I just forgot its goddamn name because its original name was what? Evil residents. Yeah. Residents of evil. That's right.
Starting point is 02:28:18 Did you watch the trailer for this shit? I did. It's fucking wild, man. What's going on here? Fucking they just straight up steal assets from Resident Evil games. Fucking one to one remix of fucking certain levels, door animations. Oh, they don't give a fuck. So look at the logo. ROE. So here's why the logo has Chris.
Starting point is 02:28:43 Who's making this? Fans who wanted to make a Resident Evil 2 remake. And Capcom said no at the time. Not not the other ones that are making the other game. Daymare at the time they thought it was like, I guess they just don't think our game is good enough or whatever. We now know that is clearly because Capcom will be making their own game. So. Oh, God.
Starting point is 02:29:09 The Moonlight Studios, really? Their expertise were the ones throwing Nintendo characters into Unreal 4. We just were watching this trailer for Residence of Evil. Yes, that's right. And it cut to Link Link standing in an unreal field in a gaudy, unreal field with bloom at the ass, because this is the true vision of what let's let Nintendo finally woke up.
Starting point is 02:29:35 Let's backtrack on this. Yeah, please. These guys are the folks who figured out how to import a ton of bullshit into the Unreal 4 engine. And then they decided, OK, we're actually pretty decent with this engine. Let's use it to make Resident Evil 2 remake, because I mean, and I saw some early development stuff for that and it looked kind of promising. The movement always looked like really bad, but, you know, whatever.
Starting point is 02:29:57 And then they were working on that. And then Capcom said, no, guys, come on, don't. And we now know that's because of the, you know, the remake, too. And then they said, oh, then we're like, OK, we're going to. We have a lot of stuff that we've done already. Let's just roll that forward into this new game. But as we can clearly see, the trailer for the new game is what is essentially like a portfolio trailer of all their old stuff,
Starting point is 02:30:26 which is hilarious because it's a bunch of untextured fucking remake rooms with Resident Evil monsters and the exact same zombies. Like the character is walking around with the logo for the game on his back. It's it's fucking hilarious. And like those that girl, that girl, that lady zombie is like stripped from RA2. Like that is the exact tank top, the exact everything. And apparently all these characters are being stars. Members are members of the ROE community.
Starting point is 02:30:54 Like they're a group of guys that talk about survival horror or whatever. So that's where some of that comes from. But then the real actual thing of this, they're like, oh, people don't understand what this game is. And they're like, oh, this is a really bad RE ripoff. So now it's been retitled vigil, the prophecy. And they're like, all that Resident Evil assets that you saw, those were only for demonstration purposes because we didn't have.
Starting point is 02:31:21 It's just to show off that we can work with the engine and for good for power. Yeah. Yeah. So updates and concerns video. I was like, Hey, everyone, this is not a ripoff. We promise we were just trying to show that we're going off. We could do it. How did you not explain that in the first video like that, dude? So I saw this, uh, I want to say last week before the name got changed.
Starting point is 02:31:44 Yeah. And it was a game, a residence of evil announced the game. And I looked at it and went, oh, holy shit. This is the least flux given ever, ever. But residents of evil, the name of their group, I know, whatever it is. And it's still really bad. But are they the ones responsible for every one of those like Sonic and Kirby floating? No, I can't believe that they're responsible for all of them,
Starting point is 02:32:12 but they're responsible for some of them. Yeah, for a couple. All right. It's got that ball rolling, man. I love that. Just drop you into an overproduced, ugly, if you're a real forest, you're good. There's a bunch of layers to Kirby ones, the best. There's a bunch of layers to the the trailer of them not giving a fuck. The first layer is the name.
Starting point is 02:32:34 Yeah. Then the second layer is, did they just fucking steal that shit? And then the third layer is when the logo pops up and it's Chris from the RE one box art on in their logo of the game. And you're like, what, what the fuck is this? What is what? It's like a new level of like tribute game where you're like, it's not a tribute. This isn't a tribute.
Starting point is 02:32:58 It's they're it's they're being forced to make it not resident evil. Yeah, pretty much like as the car is rolling down the road. So look, I restored this this this Volvo to look just like a Mustang. Yeah, can't look like a Mustang. All right, we're as it's rolling to the bottom of the hill. We are now changing it into a Subaru. Also, you really overdid your actual new title. Vigil, prophecy of the bestowed hilarious.
Starting point is 02:33:25 How about just vigil or how about like vigil the prophecy? Do you really need the bestowed in there? How many more people? How many more sales will you get? Fans of the words bestowed? I'm going to assume bestowed bestowed. Sure. Yeah, he keeps saying bestowed bestowed. So they announced.
Starting point is 02:33:47 Yes, that's something. God bless. Yeah, maybe it might even be good. Who knows? Bloodstained is coming along. Is it? They announced all of metal gear is going to be in it. No, they announced a few.
Starting point is 02:34:02 They announced metal gear is going to be in it. But to be more precise, everybody's going to be in it. Oh, the voice actors have showed up is is is so. Hannah Michaels levels of stacked. Who do we got? There's quite a few. So actually, there's let me there's a better. It's a better list.
Starting point is 02:34:22 Yeah, there's a better list. So yeah, yeah. OK, so you've got Miriam, because there's a better list of pictures. Let me let me try and pull that out. OK, sure. I saw David Hader. You sure did. I seen it. You sure did. I clapped. You clapped when you saw it.
Starting point is 02:34:37 Clapped when I saw it. I'm glad you clapped when you saw it. That'll that'll be around forever. I saw another. That was part of that fucking tweet storm I was talking about. And he said, just clap. Just clap when you see it. And I did.
Starting point is 02:34:54 Anyway, so whatever you've got, Erica Lindbeck as Miriam and Erica Lindbeck is Futaba from P5. OK, as the main character, you've got. She does a million fucking things. Yeah, yeah, every one of these it does a million things. But I'm just like thing that I might be able to my brain can latch on to. David Hader's. I don't know. Familiar is Zangetsu.
Starting point is 02:35:17 So that's cool. Zangetsu is going to sound like snake. Yeah, maybe maybe he's because he can't not sound like snake. Like some people on this list, like some people can do any like thing. And then their default voice is different. He's had a few small roles throughout the years, like before Metal Gear really blew up and it's less gruff snake. That's all you can do. It seems.
Starting point is 02:35:38 Yeah, he can do. He can do calm. Like, yeah, Ray Chase is Noctis. Oh, right. It's Ben Diskin. I'm not familiar. Ben Diskin, uh, who is Ben Diskin? That is. It's probably some does all Naruto. I see Naruto.
Starting point is 02:35:56 Oh, he's Naruto. He's sigh. Wait, was he the kid in kindergarten cop? He could have been. It says he's an actor known for kindergarten cop. Oh, I'm getting very excited. He was something. Joseph Jostar. Oh, God, he's death gun.
Starting point is 02:36:08 Oh, no, he's death gun. Yeah, OK. He's in one punch, man. All right. So he's he's a pro. He's Eric Sparrow. Oh, you. Oh, shit. Was not ready.
Starting point is 02:36:34 You got to tell me when you're going to. Was not was not ready. It's all. Man, Jesus, fuck. Oh, that's OK. Who else we got? Who else we got? Yeah, all right. All right.
Starting point is 02:36:46 We got Fred, Ted, Ted, Tess, Yuri. Literally did. He's everybody. Everyone ever. You, you, you just. Do you have a monster in your. Do you have a big guy? Very famous.
Starting point is 02:36:57 Deep voice man. Yeah, everyone. Yeah. Rita Wolf sounds like the game name character. Don't know who that is. Is she? Whoa. Willie now knows who she is.
Starting point is 02:37:08 Yeah. So she's writer from Mass Effect. OK, that I got it. She's been the Beastmaster. Yes. She's Beastmaster from Nightwar. That's so shit. She's Beastmaster from Nightwar.
Starting point is 02:37:22 Carrie Walgren is the voice of a shit ton of characters, particularly in Capcom games. That's Lady and the side character in Vanquish. Steamboy. OK. Lady from Domei Cry. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:37:37 OK. Tons of other characters, but like that's the one that I always my brain always goes to. Carrie Walgren, IMDb, let that load up. So you've got. I know that name, Marina Strauber, but I don't. Oh my god. That was Straubin.
Starting point is 02:37:57 Let's see. I don't recognize that. Marina Strauber. Fire Emblem. Who is she? She's in 15 as someone. She's random voices. Azura from Fire Emblem Fates.
Starting point is 02:38:08 Kenami from P4D. Um, yeah. Republic. Law and order, though. That's cool. So there's that she's in a bunch of everyone. I'm in law and order. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:38:23 OK, KO, Shannon. Oh, OK. What else here? Ariana, Arana. Oh, she's Arana. She's Arana. And we got Arana from FF15. Chris Swindle.
Starting point is 02:38:38 Well, Robbie Belgrade is just what's his name? Robbie Belgrade is Alucard. Got it from Symphony of the Night. So though he's showing up. That's great. And it's Chris Swindle. Chris Swindle seems to be a transformer. He's a transformer guy.
Starting point is 02:38:56 Yeah. He appears to be a transformer guy. He's transforming all over. Apparently he's going to play Alfred in Bloodstained. So yeah. They got they got they got some talent on this on this. So this is Paul hiding. Oh, I know, right?
Starting point is 02:39:14 Paul hiding is Dracula. I mean, Dr. Acula would be in blood. I don't think you're I have no idea what the evil forces in Bloodstained despite having just called Vlad. Vlad's good. Vlad the poker. It's called Vlad.
Starting point is 02:39:29 It's fine. No one's going to there's got a dog and the dog is playing poker. With all those friends fucking killing it here. Hey, you guys catch Sonic Mania Adventures? Yes, I did. I did not. If you didn't go watch Sonic Mania Adventures because the guy who animated the intro to Sonic Mania
Starting point is 02:39:43 is now doing little cartoons for it. And they're silent. Yeah. And they're great. They're great because they're silent. Now, I want to point out you named you mentioned that this is the guy who did the animations for Sonic Mania. More importantly, the reason why he got that is
Starting point is 02:40:01 here we go. Who invented nipples, the enchilada. Yeah. You did a lot of shitposting. A lot of shitposting. And it led to this. So remember, kids, shitpost. Shitpost until you die.
Starting point is 02:40:14 Yeah, or get a good job. Yeah, go check it out on Sega's Twitter and stuff. Just another form of death. It's like you're now at peak Sonic. You've now changed. Tyson Hess or Hesse. So good stuff. That came out this week.
Starting point is 02:40:34 There also was the announcement that System Shock is still happening, maybe, but it's getting pushed to 2020. This is one of the crazier delays I've ever heard of. I will do like after running high on the fumes of the Turok franchise, eventually Night Dive has to get back to work. And I think, yeah, they're having a tough time with it. So I'm going to start a Kickstarter.
Starting point is 02:41:00 I'm going to sum up this whole story. We did a Kickstarter for a System Shock remake. We got over a million dollars. We got the clearance for all that stuff. It was all good. Then we got too ambitious and blew all the money super fast. That's the story. And we need to course correct.
Starting point is 02:41:17 So we're going to pare everything back down. So it's going to take another two and a half years. Like that's basically it. This happens to a billion Kickstarter's all the time. And most of those disappear. It is nice and almost reassuring that they actually went to the trouble of going, hey, no. And did articles about how it talks about how this happened.
Starting point is 02:41:44 Being very transparent. Instead of just disappearing into the night. It certainly is. Yes, yes. They're being very open about it. I don't think you can really disappear in the night when you have the System Shock license. Well, that's the other thing is that it's not an original.
Starting point is 02:41:59 It's not an original. It's someone that had a really big license and disappeared into the night. Everyone who owned the System Shock license for 20 years. No, I mean with a Kickstarter like recently. That's the thing. I know what you're saying. Because if there's a original game being made by a new team.
Starting point is 02:42:13 The sun told me I couldn't make it. Is a threat that can happen to your project. But when you're doing a remake of a thing that already existed, you have the original. There's so much behind that. That's the term right there. And Cooperman, we began to run into Feature Creep. Feature Creep, Feature Creep.
Starting point is 02:42:32 That's such a good term. It's a fucking remake. Feature Creep is a real problem. Yeah, we can make it better. And guess what? It happens to every project. Feature Creep. It doesn't happen to my shit.
Starting point is 02:42:41 Over here, best friends, we just crap it out. I said, let's do a Warframe video. We didn't even finish that. You know, technically the microphone in front of your face is Feature Creep. Ah, shh. Fucking hell. You can yell really loud and his will pick it up.
Starting point is 02:42:56 You're right. I have the snowball and that was good enough. Can't pretend. And last, Nintendo has confirmed that whatever it is, Smash is going to be playable at E3. That's crazy. Fucking cool. Which clearly to me says. It's done.
Starting point is 02:43:13 It's 4.5. Yeah. Totally. Good. Best Smash game ever. Play a good game. Idiots. Hopefully.
Starting point is 02:43:21 How many Smash games do we need that improve on Melee before that fucking dinosaur finally decides to crawl back into the tar pit? Well, what I want to know, what I want to see is like, alongside this, here's how you because you know how Nintendo plays Koi and is like, nah, we want to support, but also fuck you. Don't play our game like that. If this comes out and has like all the new content, but also some balance fixes for the existing characters and like tweaks and nerfs and buffs and births, that's going to be the
Starting point is 02:43:51 most fucking mixed message ever because that's that's Nintendo flirting. They're kind of, you know what I mean? I'm going to tell you right now. When did they get balance and tweaks regardless? I'm going to tell you that right now. No, it's not because in Nintendo's mind, those are just to make the game better. They have nothing to do with competition. They have nothing to do with viewing that game.
Starting point is 02:44:12 I don't mean like, I don't look like major huge like reworks with our changes. No, I mean like subtle hitbox. No, I'm saying Vanetta getting toned down a little bit is just to make the game more fun to play for Jimmy and his friends on a Sunday morning. Sure. You can justify that. And if you if you if that happened and you got a hold of somebody from Nintendo, that is absolutely the shit that's going to come out of that.
Starting point is 02:44:32 That's a great group you just invented. Jimmy and his Sunday morning Smash Bros. They're real. They're forty five. Yeah, they don't live with mom. They keep they keep a fucking CRT in the back of the van just in case. What's that shit in Vinci's? What's that shit that was going around recently?
Starting point is 02:44:51 Why does Smash players being crazy children? It's a long story. I'll figure it out doesn't sound like a long story. Let's take some. Let's take some letters. Friendlies, man. Friendlies, the fucking friendly, friendly. Friendlies is fucking fucking coward matches.
Starting point is 02:45:09 I got to I got to use that one at the Smash Meetup because the Smash Meetup happens on the same day as Dragon Ball. So like we like like they come in and they're like, oh, yeah, that's that new game. Can we play and whatever? And then they get dusted and they're like, oh, man, fuck this game. I thought it was easier. And I'm like, get your friendly fucking ass out of here. We don't play friendlies here, son.
Starting point is 02:45:29 You don't even know how to spell that. We run sets fucking shitting on. Melee is like a social media explosion button every time. Every time Jeff's about to lose to his girlfriend in fucking Twitter followers, he fucking just starts shit talking Melee for like an hour. And then all of a sudden, bam, like a thousand extra. We got one coming in from. Oh, that's emails, by the way, we're there now.
Starting point is 02:45:59 Yeah, emails. If you want to send the letter, you can send it to superbestfriendcastatgmail.com. That's superbestfriendcastatgmail.com. And you might sound like this email. Dear friendly foreigners cast, Anthony wants to know, what is your favorite foreign film and why? Well, we're Canadians, so every Hollywood movie ever counts. A Serbian thing, I think it'd be from a place that we don't under far away,
Starting point is 02:46:23 which the language is not our friend. There's some there's some good ones. I like, you know, something with like, yeah, subtitles or I'm going to say end of Eva because I'm an asshole and that movie's great. Foreign film. Yeah, technically, we can say anything American is a foreign film. You're totally absolutely. It would suit. Yeah, you're part of North America.
Starting point is 02:46:41 It'd be a lazy answer, but still foreign to me, man. Yeah. I mean, they say about that's weird. I still like, I like children of men is still to me like my fucking. But it's my it's my best. But foreign film, I don't know. I have definitely some amazing shit that I'm not coming to mind right now. So I'm just going to say Old Boy.
Starting point is 02:47:03 Yeah, that's a good one. That's a good movie. Original Old Boy. More to Keshimike. No, no, not to Keshimike. That's that's Korean. Old Boy, sorry. Uh, I do in Chinawu Park.
Starting point is 02:47:17 Yeah, yeah, this is I was thinking of itchy the killer. That's what I thought you meant by saying, Oh, boy, because I'm deep in thought. I will actually come up with an answer in the next couple of minutes. So go on fiction. No. All right. We got one coming in from Oh, as to why it's just fucking good.
Starting point is 02:47:43 And the timing of everything that hits in that movie. I like it happens. Good timing. It happened in sync with me. Like the whole thing about my I hate when you're too stupid. I hate when things treat you like you're an idiot and you're not. And I hate when things I mean, I don't hate it, but some things go way past you. You ever play Phoenix, right?
Starting point is 02:48:05 I've played the first case. It's a fucking problem later on where you figured it out. But you figured out like days ahead of Nick. And you have to find the right items to fucking come on, Nick. So I hate that problem a lot. And I think it's really cool when you have a character that's smarter than you and you go, oh, shit, that guy's really smart. That's always fun.
Starting point is 02:48:27 But when you are at the exact pace as what's happening, there's no better feeling. An old boy was that. Paprika was pretty good. That's a good one. That's a good one. All right. We got one. Yeah, come back. We'll come back to you. Um, we're coming in from skewer star. He says hair super best based ninjas since the movie industry has
Starting point is 02:48:50 recently been making loads of OK to downright terrible adaptations of popular anime. I was thinking, what if you reverse the roles and got adaptations of movies into anime? What would work as a serialized series? I would love, you know, I joke. Breaking bad. You know, but I would love to see like Tarantino movies done anime style.
Starting point is 02:49:10 Well, I would love to have seen the anime that he was going to have. Oh, seriously? Kill Bill has an anime already. Right. That would have been great. Have Japanese half Chinesey. So that never came about. Damn, that's a solid one. Yeah, Breaking Bad's a good one.
Starting point is 02:49:26 I think that would be filmed like monster. Yeah, I think like all you need is kill slash end of end of day. Wow, what is wrong with me? Oh, they made an anime out of that movie. They did not. What's wrong with you? You're fucking hung over edge of tomorrow. Yeah, is all you need is kill.
Starting point is 02:49:49 Yeah, same thing. Yeah, yeah, so you want that bit. So wait, I made the joke. But it's a novel that got turned into a manga, then got turned into American movie. Did you think that you want that to be an anime? You think that the movie came first and then they turned it into a manga? I don't understand. Why are you both looking at me like this?
Starting point is 02:50:08 What's happening? Because the question is, do you want Western stuff turned into anime? And then you said a fucking manga that got adapted into a Western movie. Yeah, and you want it adapted back in. Yeah, OK, that's exactly what I'm saying. That's fine, because I know that you really enjoy the movie. That is exactly what I'm saying. Extremely confused.
Starting point is 02:50:27 OK, sure. Pacific Rim, why not? So you're not going to like this. Emily Blunt confirmed we're all set to do edge of tomorrow, too. But I had to do Mary Poppins, so we're going to have to wait another couple of whatever. That's cool. Do it later. It's weird, because I don't want to know you. Well, because usually I would be like, don't make a sequel.
Starting point is 02:50:44 But here I'm like, no, apparently they have a really I have no idea. No, no, no, this world, this world can use more. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Pacific Rim is probably the best, the best idea. Yeah, Pacific Rim. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I would watch that. I would also watch that. There was that that super human samurai cyber squad got that anime trailer now.
Starting point is 02:51:01 It was pretty good. Oh, wait, really? Yeah. Well, it's maybe a trigger. Damn. It looks. Oh, you're right. You're right. Yes, that's the trailer for it. A while back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. OK. Yeah, Pacific Rim is the clear winner there, I think. Let's take one from Ralph.
Starting point is 02:51:21 He sends in a letter called Real Vigante Hours. Says, dear Mat Pat Woolley and that thing inside of Pat's skin. Just trying to settle an argument with a friend knows about that. That's crazy. What would be more evil? Ignoring a homeless man that's begging for money. Oh, God, God, we all had to do that today. Like a couple hours ago or throwing change in his face. Throwing change in the face is pretty fucking bad.
Starting point is 02:51:53 Keep in mind that's it. He's got no legs, so there's no reason to fear. Oh, man, Ralph, Ralph, really wrong. Hide Ralph over here. Throwing change in the face is always worse because there's a difference between trying to avoid annoyance and active disrespect. Yeah. Yeah. Throwing change. Also, the change will go everywhere and then it's just like one is like I'm
Starting point is 02:52:17 cool. I'm hardening my heart because I can't be bothered to be like this right now because society has ruined me as a human being. And the other is fuck you, poor. Yeah, like that. Like that. But also here's money. Yeah, like you could have gone there, but you could escalate. You can wipe your ass with a twenty dollar bill and burn it. And that's worse than just walking by.
Starting point is 02:52:37 Yep. I agree. Fucking good job, Ralph. That that that's that's or especially it's much dollars that got us real good. Or there's always the if you want to if you want to escalate as far as possible. He is adding to this email. This is all woolly. You can get the camera out and then all bump fights and just and just and just even better. Put put the camera on the guy and then hand him money and go, hey, man.
Starting point is 02:53:03 Oh, God. Hey, man, just wanted to do something special for you today. Check it out. This is going to be on my channel. And I just want to say that today's your lucky day. Just tell the com that's now look at the camera and say like, comment and subscribe. Just a prank, bro. That's real, right? That's the joke here. Is that that happened?
Starting point is 02:53:25 It's like I almost vomited. Yeah. All right. It's like, yeah, that's bad. Don't do that. And let's take one from. Oh, that got real. Too real. I don't like that. I don't feel good now.
Starting point is 02:53:50 Oh, but a cat stepped on our brick. So now I'm happy. You better hope that that was all that happened. Simply for dogs. Franklin says, hey, let me begin by saying I love the way dogs smell. Yeah, I love it at every stage of their lives. I love it no matter what's going on with them. I love that warm, milky, puppy smell.
Starting point is 02:54:09 And I even love the stench that old dogs can emit because it means they're alive and still with me. I don't even mind really wet dog smell because it means they've been out doing fun things, having a blast and then click here to continue reading. OK, I'm not going to click there. Frankly, I'll click there, you fucking pussy. I'm not clicking there. I'll click it.
Starting point is 02:54:29 It's not your computer. The link. It is my computer. The URL link paid for it. The URL, the URL. That's totally the URL link is gibberish, Pat. OK, it's a gibberish URL link. I'm not going to click to continue. I brought this computer from home and it's sorry.
Starting point is 02:54:44 I have the right to click on the garbage if I want. Frank from Simply for Dogs. You want me to click on this link? I don't want to click on this link. I don't trust now. Now you don't want to either. Now that he said he doesn't trust it. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:54:57 It's probably talking about those smells. Yeah. And then but the title of the email is seven odorless dog breeds. So why would he be talking about the smell of dogs and how much he loves them and then try to tell you about the odorless dogs? Yeah, there's no such thing as an odorless dog. You can always smell it. I don't trust Frank.
Starting point is 02:55:15 And finally, some guy says, their super best might not know about dog welder boys. My cousin and I recently discovered our big favorite stupid comic book character. And we're wondering if you all over dog welder. Yeah, I know about dog welder. Dog welder. Yeah. Not much there, but what's there is gold. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 02:55:38 You familiar with dog welder? Dog welder is a character from the new earth in the DC universe. That's right. His powers. I refuse to like listen. His powers include dog welding. That's right. I was a member of section eight.
Starting point is 02:55:53 That's what he got. He he he the ref during the Reformation team of the team during the Reformation. Blah. Dog welder was trapping and killing dogs and alleyways. He helped fight Mar Mousier's henchmen during the hit man smoking aces. He dog welds. So and then he was he grabs dog and welds it to you. Who put this out?
Starting point is 02:56:14 He he was this is DC. What? Yeah, this is he was succeeded by dog welder too. That's right. This is the height of DC on prime. Earth, okay. So seemingly average businessman. Six pack and dog welder hard at traveling heroes. One day discovers go away.
Starting point is 02:56:36 One day discovers that he can weld dogs. He's devoured. He welded the family dog to his children. How has Batman not killed this man? Wow. Well, dog welding, huh? Yeah, that's it. It leads to mechanical aptitude.
Starting point is 02:56:54 Wait, shut up. Don't move away. Psychic link. Dog welder has a psychic connection to all other dog welders and can speak through dogs as puppets and can harness their powers to weld stars together. I thought snailions was the worst in fiction, but. But here's the important problem. If you have a psychic link to connect to all other dog welders,
Starting point is 02:57:21 but there's only two dog welders, well, that's still better than nothing. I wonder if he's shown up in that. What's the fucking show? Well, you can weld, you can communicate with that person and thus enable yourself to more accurately and quickly weld dogs to people. Oh, shit. He was created by Garthenis. That makes a lot of sense.
Starting point is 02:57:38 And he is in Gotham City, so. Yeah. I like the idea of like the rogues gallery that we're familiar with with Batman has a bunch of losers, but then there's the losers that aren't even cool enough to show up in a single Batman comic. Might have been. We don't know the lowest tier idiots of the Gotham criminal underground, such as Dog Welder.
Starting point is 02:58:04 Yeah, the the DC website like leads to a link with Dog Welder, but it just sandbags it now. Yeah. All right. All right. Yeah. Thank you. Also, the movie is Snatch. Foreign movie. Oh, that's a favorite. Foreign moment. Yeah. OK, that's a good one. I can barely understand what they say, so that counts.
Starting point is 02:58:22 That's fun. It's like Fez. You have to get out a piece of paper down how to solve the puzzle. Right. So what is this? Pikey, I don't I don't get it. What's going on? What's going on? What's going on? I hate Fez. What's going on?
Starting point is 02:58:41 All are all all things are continuing. We're almost actually I checked it up. We have four more chapters to go on Dead to Rights, and we'll finally figure out who we need to kill because we thought we knew. It's so confusing. Kotor is pretty much almost. Yeah, me and Willie hit this moment the last time we were filming Kotor. We're like, oh, we're way closer to the end of the game than we thought we were.
Starting point is 02:59:04 So anyone hold it out for a hundred episodes is probably going to be disappointed. No, we're going to hit a hundred episodes. You think so? Yeah. OK. Wait, what are we at now? 80 something. OK, depending what that something is, is yes or no. Because that would be the all time biggest. Or was there a Dark Souls one up to like 160? But that includes the 160.
Starting point is 02:59:25 In DS2 is absurdly long DLC was included. However, it's important to note that we ended it and then came back. So the reason why you don't think that is because in order to get around calling it part one hundred and fuck, yeah, we started. We renumbered the DLC episodes as their own. I don't count that, then. If you're going to do that, then I. Yeah, but it's all on the one big playlist.
Starting point is 02:59:50 So yeah, that's a great area. We're at 81 in Kotor. OK, yeah, we might not have a hundred. So I assume I assume there's probably another 10. Yeah, at least. So yeah, you know, you guys are going to crush a hundred on a fear of a foot. Fear of fact. Hashtag fear of facts, sharp fa. I never get I don't think I don't know if we are.
Starting point is 03:00:14 Oh, really? I don't know if we are. It is not that long by just be lining. It is a long RPG, but here's the thing. I'm I'm I'm definitely going to be offscreen grinding it. Ah, and you said before that you can't do that in Kotor. There's nothing to do. Exactly. Yeah, I was telling Matt about that. It's like the way that game works is you kill it.
Starting point is 03:00:32 It's dead. You grind the children of your party members. Into dust under your feet. Oh, oh. Oh, that that was that was the cleanest trip ever. Yeah, that's that's the worst part. That's the worst. It's that's the worst one you've ever done ever. There is no there's no question you've hit a new low.
Starting point is 03:01:06 That took a minute. Congrats. That took a second. All right. Congrats. Good job, buddy. Fuck you, Dustal. Hey, Willie, what's going on on Willie versus this week? I am almost done. Dunk, I'm almost done.
Starting point is 03:01:26 Yeah, so obviously I've been working on a fucking reboot video. I should mention that the way you said that sounded like you were almost done with Willie. Yeah, yeah, you again, frame that very. I'm tired. That was dramatic. I'm tired. So you're almost on your reboot video. Yes. Is it a review of the new series? No, yeah. Well, why not? That's what I want to watch.
Starting point is 03:01:48 Well, you're not going to get that out of me. All right. So, yeah, somebody else make a review of the only does classy things like playing the amazing reboot game. But I don't know what Willie's face. What do you call it? A video essay, I guess. Video essay. Yeah, those are fun. Yeah, so I'm doing one of those. I request an essay on why the new reboot is needed.
Starting point is 03:02:07 And now more than ever, please look forward to it. Game magazine will do. Hey, Matt, PC is still dead. So, yeah, so not streaming. But this week on the flop house, I have an extended look at a Tales of Game, Tales of Graces, which I really, really enjoyed. You really love those tales.
Starting point is 03:02:28 No, not the ones I've been playing. No, OK. Is it obligation now? Well, it's just like I'll play two or three hours. And is this is this good on the two or three hours? And I played Graces, which was quite fun. And like I was just basically watching an anime type way. And then I have a new bug report where I take a look at Code Leoco. Fuck.
Starting point is 03:02:51 Probably one of the darkest moments of my testing career, where I think that's interesting. You shouldn't self. Not not not medication. You shouldn't self. When you self diagnose. Yeah. But I'm pretty sure I had clinical depression at the time. That's really funny.
Starting point is 03:03:08 So as I actually have a few things to say about Code Leoco, yeah, the game or just in general, the fact that that's what reboot is now. Yes, it is. Isn't it has become quite relevant? Except this is all animated. A lot of a whole lot of people, a whole lot of Google searches, metrics going up for Code Leoco all of a sudden. Oh, why so much noise?
Starting point is 03:03:27 Yeah, Code Leoco now. Why? I don't know what Code Leoco is. This is really bad French cartoon where kids go into the Digiverse. Oh, I showed you screenshots. Yeah, you wouldn't be able to tell. Yeah, between that and like cool French cartoons like Wakfu and Zix. Then you have. Yeah. What the fuck is this odd?
Starting point is 03:03:50 You would not be able to tell fair enough. All right. What's going on with me? At some point, I'm going to stream more within at some point this week on on Angry Spat, though tonight and probably tomorrow night, I mean, I'm going to be streaming on her tail page over at Peach Saliva. I think she likes Papyrus more than me, but I'll live. Pardon? Nothing.
Starting point is 03:04:15 Actually, I didn't say anything good. Also, be a Paxies like I mentioned before this weekend. I will be standing at a booth for eight hours a day. Just please play this game. Not looking forward to that because I have how many people have we met? Well, during a Pax, we're meeting them on day three. It's rough. And they're a zombie. It's because they can't talk anymore and they're just dead.
Starting point is 03:04:40 So I'm not looking forward to that. If anyone wants to check out these games and they're a Paxies, I hope I will. But I doubt I will. But really looking forward to some things that are playable there, like the messenger, SNK heroines, Travis Strikes Back, Project Warlock, which is really, really neat. It's a really grody looking first person shooter. And last year, which is that game, I got to play a bit,
Starting point is 03:05:04 which is like overwatch, but horror, which is really cool. So again, looking forward to those. Oh, what's this? This isn't Colioco. Is that a reboot? That's one. That's two. Oh, wow. And that's three.
Starting point is 03:05:25 We're looking at six. Oh, fuck. Wait, those first two are different things. We're looking at six code, Leoco and the Guardian code. I can't tell. So enjoy. How fun. Six is amazing. You go, you go home.
Starting point is 03:05:40 Which one's X? Yeah, this is X. You go home and fix the podcast and go to sleep, Wolves. I'm probably going to go do Haka first. Wow. Your mind you do your hacking. Your moxie is genuinely impressive. Oh, yeah. This is important. If anyone wants to actually see me during those eight hours a day, I'll be at Booth 14087, Dangan Entertainment.
Starting point is 03:06:09 You're not. You didn't get. I've assumed you didn't get tickets from the guy, right? Because I was like, I was like, get tickets from that guy. But I just found out two days ago that that guy quit the company. He is now he can't get tickets for anybody. No, Matt, I wasn't sure I didn't say I didn't I didn't get that. So I'm not going to be there. All right, hey, let's end.
Starting point is 03:06:38 Let's end the podcast with the noise. Willie will make upon seeing the title of the new Mega 64 video. I say, let's say. Oh, I did see this. That's super bad. Oh, fucking Mega 64. They're so good.

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