Castle Super Beast - SBFC 254: Jeff Dam's Vendetta

Episode Date: July 10, 2018

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Starting point is 00:00:41 We're just gonna start while you figure that out. That's fine. That's okay. Have you started yet? Yep. Yep. I actually can start more because now we're starting while the music's playing and the logo's up and everything.
Starting point is 00:00:54 It's all over us. You can stop and then restart, too. That counts as more starting. Oh, I super do exactly what I wanted to do. And then I can start for real reels, you know? Did you start? Yeah, I started. What type of start?
Starting point is 00:01:08 A rolling start. Rolling start. I'm glad. A rolling start. Very glad. I don't understand stock car racing. No one does. What's up with that?
Starting point is 00:01:21 You know, it's funny, for stream purposes, I decided to add some more music and I put a double trigger onto the loading after the original. What, you put double trigger? You? Well, it was to follow up the usual song we have and that got people so excited that they're like, put the fucking song back on. No one wants this stupid podcast. So don't do that song on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Yeah, that's why that wasn't there until now. But it's okay. There are frustrations getting bigger. I saw that shit hit number one on the UK iTunes chart for a little bit as it should, which is a feat as it should. I feel as if it's a bad shitty song. Oh, it's I that's awesome. But it represents everything about the franchise and it's the fact that everyone loves it and
Starting point is 00:02:18 it's a song that we would trash on if it weren't associated is exactly spiritually My favorite part is that you remember when everybody was getting mad because we were saying that red like roses is a piece of trash. We like it. This is the same thing. This is exactly the same. That song sucks, man. Fucking bang, bang, bang.
Starting point is 00:02:40 Pull my double trigger. Oh, it's so bad. I hate the lyric song from a Capcom game that's good. That's like can win an award. Oh, I was I was going to say like flying into free from Dragon's Dogma theme. No, indestructible. No, but those are great vocal theme in a Capcom game. All Devil May Cry songs are all in the same to be perfectly honest.
Starting point is 00:03:09 The actual surrender. No, but but like the first trailer for DMC three, you know, like the way devils never cry is fucking strong, man. That's just the operatic. Exactly. It has all the cheats in it. It has all the music hacks to make it. It's not fair.
Starting point is 00:03:26 But like the first time you heard the we we are falling the night is calling moment. It's when it cuts to the slow motion and they're in the rain and they're having the slow fucking sword spin battle and you're like, OK, well, now this has to be cool. Could video games even become more art than this? No. He has the model of his hair down and then he puts his head. It looks so bad. Then he tucks his head back and then.
Starting point is 00:03:51 It looks bad back then. And he's fucking tucks his hair back. But it used to be dead. It's so stupid. They used to be the same and then he hasn't. It doesn't just look bad when he does it like for whatever reason that hair on Virgil's head looks fucking awful. But here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Not only that, but like character models in DMC three, I think are purposely not that great or detailed to keep the game running. Oh, man. When Dante holds his mouth open for the piece of pizza in the beginning, it looks terrible. It looks really garish, but it looks like something. Googly Gareth would make. It's super weird. But like there's something to be said about your your not just tucking your hair back,
Starting point is 00:04:30 but the plot tucking your hair back is permanent gel, right? Bleach. Devil. Remember a fucking Eisen, right? It's like when he when the glasses come off and he does the hair tuck, it's like that's plot gel that's holding it in place for the rest of the series. It's like something. There's something there.
Starting point is 00:04:47 There's something there. I don't know how many other examples are there besides the plot gel holding it back forever. The hairstyle changes. It's plot like something that changes like clothes or like an accessory or whatever. The reveal. There's no reason for it. But you know now now that thing is there forever because it was just water. It was just raining.
Starting point is 00:05:09 But his hair never fell back in front of his face ever again. That's his bancai, man. I don't know. Illusionate all over or whatever. I don't know. Bleach is so fucking stupid. Because Devil May Cry 3 popped up again like on Twitter when someone was like just a reminder that this cutscene was directed by this guy.
Starting point is 00:05:26 He's also directing Devil May Cry 5 cutscenes. That's correct. It just shows the pizza and the starting cutscene. Absolutely. And also everything about it is it's the most like Japanese of that time, the mid aughts where they're like they had just seen the matrix four years after the matrix had come out and they're all like why we can do this so much better and worse. Koichi.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Koichi's hair goes up when fucking echoes. It becomes a goddamn Super Saiyan for no reason. Yeah, when echoes awakens properly, the hair goes up and stays up forever. And then he cuts it but it's still up. That's strong. I like that. Good job Koichi. I'm excited to see you go to Italy.
Starting point is 00:06:14 There's gotta be tons of anime in general that have something. Who's Nishikiyama? Nishikiyama? From Yakuza? Oh, okay. So Nishiki has long hair and it's long hair and it flows down on the sides and the back, right? And then 10 years later when you see him, the hair that was coming down the sides like
Starting point is 00:06:38 bangs is now pulled all the way back so it's like kind of a, I don't know what a Sephiroth kind of look like, no bangs. And that means he's evil. Oh, got it. I believe in Yakuza Kawami, they added that the reason he did that is that during the murder that made him turn evil, he slicked his hair back with the blood. All Might technically does the same thing, right? Because All Might's little fucking bunny flops become huge...
Starting point is 00:07:06 Huge floppy bunny ears. Yeah, when he switches forms. So that's always, I think the Veefin drops down to become little weak, weak, flimsy bunny ears. Well, you know. Yeah, there's absolutely that. Technically, you can say Vash the Stampede. From the one, it's a similar thing to Dante and Virgil actually when knives and vash are
Starting point is 00:07:32 in the past or like growing up with the rem and they both have long plant hair. Oh yeah, I forgot about that. They're like these little like... I'll be real, I completely forgot about all that plant shit. All that's gone. It's another race and they're basically like used as batteries to keep humanity alive on the planet Gunsmoke. This Gunsmoke sucks shit.
Starting point is 00:07:53 And the whole... Exactly, it's just a desert. There's nothing there. It's basically Tatooine, right? But the whole thing is like you're using a life form as a battery, so fuck you says... That's not good to do. Because it turns out that life form is actually very intelligent. And one of the life forms wants revenge.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Slash to free its people. I have one that counts as revenge. It does. I'm shocked Matt didn't get to before me. Remember when Max Payne slipped his hair back and wore a goddamn Hawaiian shirt like a jackass? But that's not crazy plot. There's a reason for that.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Yeah. Like a physical... He actually shaved his head. Yeah. But what was the reason? I don't remember. It was like after the person he's protecting no longer needed protecting and he's just like he got...
Starting point is 00:08:40 I think he fell down a little hill and wound up in the ghetto. And he's like, I have to pretend to be man on fire starring Denzel Washington now. Yeah. I will put on this Hawaiian shirt. I will surely blend in and instantly everyone's like... Did you play that game, Willie? No, I just watched you guys play the start of it. So that moment in the previews was like, yeah, look, Max is going to be a badass.
Starting point is 00:09:02 The moment in the game is... Applying that he wasn't. It's the total opposite in that he walks into, I think it's like a fucking basketball court and every single person in the universe just goes, what the fuck? And his monologue goes, God, I look like a jackass. It's the least power moment ever. He's very out of touch with the kids of Brazil. I'll never forget when me and my boy Keith back in the day were coming up with after
Starting point is 00:09:30 the Black Goku, of course, we had our own versions of that idea. No, you didn't. Yeah. Of course we did. I told you about this before. We had our own versions. They stole it from you. Like before the Black Goku website was the thing that we even knew about in high school,
Starting point is 00:09:45 we were always talking about like how cool would it be if a black person went Super Saiyan and you went from having tied up cornrows to slowly unwinding and becoming a fro. Think about the animation. The animation of cornrows untying themselves. That would be rough, dude. It'd be fucking incredible, but like that was our idea. I don't think the hair is that powerful unless you're going Super Saiyan 2 where it just grows. Or the other way around, you have a fro naturally and then it slowly braids itself to become cornrows.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Why not just bigger cornrows? I mean, with like deeper rivets. How does that make sense? Like the cornrows just get bigger. No. Well, that's just more hair. Yeah. But they're like, it's like a stack of books.
Starting point is 00:10:32 No. Well, that would just end up looking like Giorno. Yeah. It looked like Giorno. It would just turn into his hairstyle, which is the Paris Hilton. Yeah. If you really think about it. Well, the rows get thick enough and then there are just these big bulbs on your head
Starting point is 00:10:46 and then you've got your little tails at the back. And then your gravity is thrown off. And then you got to wear your shirt with the man cleavage. It's the law. Did you guys see that? Obviously, you must have seen the Part 5 teaser for Giorno. Yes, I did see that. But did you see the Part 5 teaser with the more appropriate music?
Starting point is 00:11:03 I did. I don't think I did. They edited the Part 5 to have Gangster's Paradise playing over it. And like the music lines up in a couple of moments and it's fucking great. Now I've been blasting and lasting so long and missed a fucking points up. With the guns. Did you see the Part 5 secret teaser if it would? That was the full episode?
Starting point is 00:11:25 Which is some guy on their phone just film the whole goddamn episode. How did you get that done? Well, he was in the audience because they screened it. I know, I know that they did that but they were like, don't fucking film this. And someone just did it. I personally did not watch it but there is one thing that a friend of mine did watch it and said something that made me extremely excited. Oh, they added a bunch of transitions to make what Gold Experience does more clear.
Starting point is 00:11:52 That's great. Which is the single biggest problem in Part 5. That's cool. You go, hey, what does that stand do? And Eric, he goes, I don't know. Don't ask me. How does it work? I don't know how it works.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Dude, if you've got a front pocket and you just put your phone in your front pocket, guess why? Because I've been in places where I see like security guards just... Yeah, they do the thing. But you can be really, really like... Cam footage still exists of movies. This is a guy that's like, I'm going to go in there and I'm going to do it. I mean, no one else will do it.
Starting point is 00:12:25 Cameras are tiny. It's not hard. Think about my GoPro. Don't forget the era that... But I don't want to watch fucking Part 5 on a GoPro. No one does, but I'm just answering. That's how it happens, you know? Never forget the era that we had.
Starting point is 00:12:38 It's terrible quality though. It's horrible. It's setting up fucking tripods to get good stand-up cameras. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Dudeers. That's fun. That's fun dumb shit. That's audacious.
Starting point is 00:12:48 I was like that criminal telling Jerry that he's about to threaten him. Then he's like, the angles that you took to film the movie. I was... My breath was taken away. And he's like, oh, okay. That episode never made any fucking sense because what does that mean? Like what bootleg is adding to the... You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:13:11 It's to the film. It's a New York thing, I'm sure. That's why they didn't show it. It never made any fucking sense. It never made any fucking sense. Your imagination justice. Anyway, boy oh boy, part five is going to be terrible. I can't wait for how awesome it's going to be.
Starting point is 00:13:30 That teaser was really great. I liked the style of it and everything. Of course, we're not going to get the full-on super Italian music, but I hope... You want it to sound like a fucking lady in the tramp little Italy? Yes. Oh man. Yes, I do. Until the stand battles happen.
Starting point is 00:13:48 You know what? Full-on hip hop. That's up to you. That is your task now. To make it happen. To re-score the anime as it comes out. I mean, you've got Bruno sitting in the chair at the end of that thing, like kiss the ring, and you're like...
Starting point is 00:14:06 It is something else. It should be the Godfather score. That's what you're supposed to hear. The main character of that show is not the one sitting in the chair. Yeah. And he's not even the one that gets the final reveal. It's Zipper Man. I showed my girl the teaser as well.
Starting point is 00:14:28 She hasn't read and whatnot and doesn't know anything. She's just going along with the anime as it comes out. The first words after the teaser is done, she just busted out laughing while it was happening. I was like, okay, cool. You see the full cast reveal at the end of it, and the first thing she says is, wow, that's gay. And I'm like, isn't it the best? It's the gayest it's ever been.
Starting point is 00:14:54 So there's no holding back now. When it was part one, it was manly and closeted, but burning. And then part two, it's like, I'm out. I'm out, but I'm throwing my balls around, but hey. And then three, it's like, we're just going to have this old man just plow this dude in the street. We're going to have, we're going to have, we're going to have like hijinks in like two. We're going to have hijinks and still be like, oh man, look at that hot girl. But ooh, you.
Starting point is 00:15:22 And then at four, you have, you have a Koichi. Hey, look, he's got a girlfriend. That's cute, right? Yeah. That's adorable. Yeah. That's adorable. And then five, it's just like the dick is just poised.
Starting point is 00:15:33 It's just poised. You know, it's like, it's like, you know, in front of the chest cleavage. You know, you know, in the back of O-Com, there's a lot in the fashion. You know, in the back of O-Com, it was like ads for old shitty, like third party controllers for the Super Nintendo Genesis. Yeah. And always have like a turbo button. Yeah. And in the picture it shows the kids like, hands.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Yeah. Yeah. That's how it gets in JoJo. Oh man. JoJo got turbo. The turbo. The turbo gay. I love it.
Starting point is 00:16:03 It's so great. The panel of Bruno licking Giorno's face. Yeah. Might as well be a dojin. It is, it is porn. It's, it's, it's just fucking fantastic how. It's not as graphic, but it's serving the exact same purpose. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Well, because, because then I went on, I went on to explain how like you get like, you go from like manly, like, you know, in the early early. Manly, ripped. But now go to the gym every day. But now you, but now you're getting like fierce, right? You're getting like runway power. You know what I mean? Like it's getting into that sort of energy and it's, it's, it's fucking fantastic.
Starting point is 00:16:43 And it only goes up from there. But yeah, like between explaining like the, the, like I was like, like the, the, the man lick, the cheek lick and then the, the thing with this part too is this is where you start seeing stands posing where the stand is wrapped around you or you are wrapped around your own stand. I love my stand. I think you're loving yourself and it's just so like fucking great. That's a good message.
Starting point is 00:17:09 It's fantastic. Love yourself. It's the best. I fucking love it. If you don't love yourself, like how, you don't love your stand. How the hell are you supposed to love anybody else? Right? You've got to start with your stand first and then work your way out from there.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Absolutely. Man. Oh man, I can't wait. Don't fuck it up. For the gold experience. Eventually we get to the part where like, who's your main character? Oh, he's a wet sailor with weird genitals. Oh, we're getting, we, you have to go far past the cowboys at that point.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Oh yeah. You know, you have to get there. And again, it was. Prison. It was the bit. Cowboy. It was the bit we did in Eyes of Heaven where it's like, this is a man discovering his sexuality over the course of 30 years.
Starting point is 00:17:53 It's still. It's like, remember that time. It still hasn't really found it. And like after the bad boys, remember that timer is like, yo, what about girls though? And they're like, nah. The first thing the Jotaro does in part three is scream at all the bitches hassling him. Yeah. Get away.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Oh man. Get away from me, bitches. Get out of the panel of this manga, please. Jotaro, Josuke and Jotaro actually, you know. Yeah. And you know, Joseph and Caesar are both like putting doves and chicks mouths to fucking one up each other, you know. Wait, even before that in part three, Jotaro like tells his mom to shut up and I don't
Starting point is 00:18:36 need you. Yeah. Don't bitch. Yeah. And then he just starts caressing his photos of dolphins. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yo.
Starting point is 00:18:47 No, like thoughts be gone, man. The wiki page for notable marine biologists is locked due to constant vandalism. You cowards. Yeah. Yeah. Jotaro Kujo is not a real person. Please stop vandalizing. Fuck you.
Starting point is 00:19:03 I was at the Montreal Comic Con for a bit and I was looking for Jojo figures, specifically Jolene. Everyone's like, you got to wait until it gets animated because it's going to be hard to find anything until it's animated. Of course. Yeah. And I'm like, dammit. And that this discussion naturally leads from like all of that to the cool shit that comes
Starting point is 00:19:24 later. And it's funny because it's still like, like no one in part five as far as I know is like actually like openly gay. Yeah. But in part six, there's openly gay characters and they're not as flamboyant as fucking part five is. Well, no, because they're not Italian. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Part of the gang stars. What? But it's so and it's awesome because in part six, it's just like a casual detail. What year did part six actually come out? Like when it was published? Come out? Yeah. Because that might like give you your answer as to why.
Starting point is 00:19:57 It's just suddenly like, yeah, this is around the time period where. But the fact that like, I mean, is it, I don't know, whatever. I'll, I won't, I'll just in case it's spoilers for anyone who's not reading. I'm not going to, you know, say, but like, yeah, there's a character that you like, like pretty much is that's just the backstory of the character. And it's not at all like, it's not the type, it's not like the super flamboyant people like the characters in five, which are like, yeah, we're all out there with our fashion and everything.
Starting point is 00:20:25 But we're all trying to get this girl's attention. Yeah. It's what you're getting in gold experience in, in, in part, in stone. No, no, no, in part five, but in part six, it's not that at all. But what I was going to say about you saying, talking about Jolene is that worse than that, I was trying to describe one of the best things that happens in the entire fucking Jojo everything is a conversation between the antagonist and the protagonist of a steel ball run. And we're just destruction downstairs, dude.
Starting point is 00:20:59 You keep looking really freaked out. Well, cause coming through my headphones, it sounds like the place. Cause it's, cause it's reverb. You're super right. One of the coolest things ever in the entire franchise is like, you know, you, you get, you have your deal versus Jotaro, like final battle thing. The version of that and steel ball run is fucking next level. And there's a moment where there's just a conversation that happens between the two.
Starting point is 00:21:24 And we're not going to see that for a decade. We're not going to get there till like 2028. It'll be cool. And it's killing me that like there'll be, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, checking your sugar. Araki forever. Araki will be 78 by then. And, you know, it'll be going.
Starting point is 00:21:42 They'll adapt. It's like they're at part five now and it doesn't even feel like that long. It's like Jojo Sargent anime, what? 2012, 2013. Yeah. Like that's still a lot. We'll get there in five years, Wally. I'd say five years.
Starting point is 00:21:56 You think five? Yeah, man. I feel like unless, but here's the problem between four and five was the longest. Here's the problem though. It was, but here, but the other problem is that it's not just about like that length and that time and the amount of effort that goes in. I'll add to the length. It's about the fact that like that part is like three times longer than the average part.
Starting point is 00:22:19 They get long now. Five is long. Six is long. Seven is fuck. You know, like these things start lasting. And, and, um, I feel like while three was longer than four cut into two half. Yeah. Three was two seasons.
Starting point is 00:22:39 You had pre-Egypt and then you had Egypt. Three is longer than four, but that's never going to happen again. You know, from here, you're moving out. You're going on up. So big and girthy. Um, but, but I feel like, uh, yeah. By the time we get through like to like eight, I don't think it's going to be five years. I think it's going to be a bit longer than five years.
Starting point is 00:22:58 I'm thinking like six. Well, if part eight's even done by them. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe they'll just go. Maybe they'll wait five times as long as maybe they'll wait. Maybe. But, but seven, it's so worth it.
Starting point is 00:23:11 But anyway, um, horses, dude. Fall off your fucking horse. Die asshole. Uh, Matt, how was your week? Um, I mentioned, uh, mtl, Comic Con, but right before that, um, what fan films have you guys ever seen? You're like, that was pretty good. Uh, a bunch at Fantasia.
Starting point is 00:23:30 I saw the Batman stuff, the Punisher stuff, the Wolverine fan film, Star Wars fan films. I've seen a lot. I'm not very up to date on the fan films. A lot over the years. And back in the day when I was trying to make one. Um, yeah. Yeah. Uh, cause I watched one and usually it's like, I give something like five minutes.
Starting point is 00:23:48 I'm like, okay, it's going to be like this. And then I'm done. Right. So those street fighter ones that, that machinima put out a few years back, right? Yeah. Assassin's fist. And it was like, all right, but it was all right because they had one set, which was a dojo and outside the dojo.
Starting point is 00:24:08 But for some reason they stretched it to like eight, nine episodes of that. They got the official approval. They got. Um, so one came up like over the course of the last two weeks. Um, uh, fan film and I'd seen final fight fan trailers before where someone just made a concept trailer. And I'm like, whew, I'm looking at this and I'm like, oh, wow. But a full 30 minute movie came out over the week called final fight broken gear.
Starting point is 00:24:38 And I was like, wait, who is this person? Like who, who made this? And like, let me research a bit about it. And I'm like, okay, it's like a Los Angeles like filmmaker, whatever. Do you remember the big mustachioed guy in Godzilla final wars that commanded like the big ship? And he's always screaming at people and had a katana sword. That movie was in 2004.
Starting point is 00:25:02 When I saw that guy, I was like, man, his name is Don Fry. He was an MMA guy. He was, he's actually popular in Japan. I was like, man, that guy would make a fucking good Mike Hagar because he looks exactly like him and acts exactly like that, acts exactly like him. So when I saw that they hired this guy to be Hagar in this film, I'm like, oh, okay, I'm going to watch the rest of this. So broken gear is 30 minutes long and I'm watching.
Starting point is 00:25:30 I'm like, that fight was really good. That was a really nicely choreographed fight. That guy looks a lot like assassin fist people. No, it's different. And it's just a guy like completely made it, you know, just on his YouTube channel, whatever. And I'm like, this, this cinematography is really good. This is, wow, this is really impressing me. They have a shot of a dam slash thrasher, relentless and poison, like doing like a, like a video
Starting point is 00:26:00 game intro, like just all of us posing at the screen. And it's interspersed with Hagar giving a press conference between what Cody is doing and what he's actually on the streets, like just doing the Rocky jog throughout all the like shitty parts of the city, a metro city. I'm like, wow, this is really impressing me. And towards the end guy shows up and they have a good guy. And I'm like, wow, that was really fantastic. Hagar gets a move in at the very end.
Starting point is 00:26:28 So I was really, really impressed with this. And I had contacted, I just wrote on Twitter to the guy that wrote it Haley Lee, I believe Haley. And I just would, well, congratulations. You made the best fan film of something I personally am like super into. I mean, I haven't seen every fan film in the world, but I was really impressed with it. It was a really solid 30 minute watch. Well, does this sound familiar to you at all as well? He contacted Capcom about doing a project years ago and Capcom was very enthusiastic for like
Starting point is 00:27:03 a minute and then just no communication, no communication breakdown. No, no thanks anymore. We're not interested. We don't think this really fits our brand breakdown breakdown. So, um, yeah. And I'm like, I feel you, bro. Everyone's calling Capcom the complaint. Well, for that thing, maybe.
Starting point is 00:27:27 No one's calling them to complain. Well, he's like looking down at the ground like he's just, I mean, it's what are you going to do? Right? What are you going to do? You're going to both be enthusiastic at the start. You're going to be fucking sad about the past and stare at your feet. That's what you're going to do. Actually, what you should do is just fucking don't ask for permission.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Ask for forgiveness. Capcom has actually been, as far as our rule of shut up, like Capcom has been pretty cool about, Hey, stop that or it's out there. Fuck it. Like they don't actually go after anybody for anything ever. So yeah. Hasbro. My name is Fensler Films.
Starting point is 00:28:03 Can I do I have permission to where are you going? We're going to our lawyers. Yeah. Like, you know, what are you going to sue your ass? Did son of Prince get permission? Did juggernaut bitch get permission? Juggernaut bitch got in the mood. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:28:19 I didn't get paid though. But later, but like it escalated there to the point where it couldn't be denied. Yeah. From doing something that was not. Approved. The worst part about that was always that they put the juggernaut bitch thing, which was iconic, but they didn't put like Wolverine screaming at my fucking legs in there. Or like and like Black Tom never said my outfit so tight.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Juggernaut said that too. They all said. So final fight broken gear. It's on YouTube. I give it a big, big math thumbs up. Aside from that, yeah, I went to MTL Comic Con. Played Spider-Man. Tell me about Spider-Man.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Spider-Man was first of all, I was in a line for a while and they're like, you have to like come by appointment. We can give you like slots like every 15 minutes. I'm like, OK. The Sony booth at Montreal Comic Con is not a fun wait. There was no line for Spyro reignited. What? I'll tell you about that in a second.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Classic. But yeah, I was watching people play. I'm like, OK, this is the exact E3 demo. So this always helps when you play a demo is you watch the demo beforehand. Yeah, even though it spoils like what's going to happen. It does. But remember when you played Killer Instinct at the Future Shop that I learned everything from watching up until the line.
Starting point is 00:29:44 And I'm like, this is so much better knowing a little bit. Yeah, for sure. I watch it. I'm just like, OK, the launcher in combat is this button, whatever. And like, I will say, like just really generalize things. Graphics like amazing when you're on top of the building, just look at everything like this is the best open world in a superhero game bar none so far to me. Good.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Because unlike like aside from Superman, I feel like Spider-Man is going to move the fastest through that kind of place. Yeah. Batman has a slow flight there. Yeah, or like a little the grappling hooker. Everyone only has one question. Yes. How's the swingy?
Starting point is 00:30:22 The swinging is actually really, really similar, maybe even a bit. I'm judging by the demo. You don't unlock any new moves or whatever you have. But it's very similar to Amazing Spider-Man 2, which had good web swinging where it was the left trigger and the right trigger was your left and right hand. So you can always do whatever. And it had the web zip, which is there's an anchor point on almost every single thing in the world.
Starting point is 00:30:46 So if you don't want to just web swing, you can just tap this and it just goes. Or if you're going to hit, I remember using that like when you in one of them. Anyway, like you were going to hit, you're trying to leap over a building and you're going to be like five feet too short. Yeah. Yeah. It has something like that. The web swinging felt like good.
Starting point is 00:31:06 I had no real complaints about it. It felt like you had way more control as I just finished an LP of Spider-Man 2 and you actually have shit control for doing subtle things because they just didn't focus on that. Like if I want to land on the exact spot, it's hard. And this, it's very easy. I remember correctly, Spider-Man 2's big focus was on like getting the feel of launching out of momentum. Well, there's that, but there's also just...
Starting point is 00:31:31 There's that in this too for sure. There's the simple thing of like, we're never going to go back to swinging on the sky and up until that point, that's all we had. We actually did. So like Spider-Man 2's biggest accomplishment was actually attaching to a real building. Yeah. Like the rest being fun and good worked out. Other games went back to swinging on the sky after it.
Starting point is 00:31:53 And like, I feel like that's just crazy lazy after we've already seen, you know... Crazy. Yeah. Crazy. Thank you. Yeah. I mean, the only game like... After we've already seen like attaching to...
Starting point is 00:32:06 Amazing Spider-Man 1 based on the first Amazing Spider-Man movie was swinging on anything. And then there were other games in between like Shadow Dimensions, but I gave Shadow Dimensions a pass because they were always in enclosed levels. There was no open world, so I don't expect to swing on anything. Why would you make that video game? Because it was fun. I guess. Just enclosed levels for a character that's all about open space.
Starting point is 00:32:26 If you remember Shadow Dimensions is Spider-Man 1, Spider-Man 2.99. Yeah. Yeah. So everyone has different gameplay. But like... Spider-Man 1 is a Metal Gear game. But I mean... You don't web swing in that.
Starting point is 00:32:37 Okay. He doesn't even have webbing. But are you saying that like... No, he does have webbing. Never mind. What I'm saying is, is it every story within that game is still enclosed levels? More... It's...
Starting point is 00:32:48 Or is it just certain sections depending on who you're playing? It's hard to say. Like if you said it was just Noir or people who don't swing, then that's fine. Yeah. Because Spider-Man 2.99 is all about like high octane combat and like doing halo jumps through... Like that's how his levels are made. Ultimate Spider-Man, it's more like a Musou game because he has the symbion and he's tendril slapping 100 enemies at once.
Starting point is 00:33:11 They're all very different types of gameplay. Okay. So anyway, regardless, graphically it was amazing. Like I said, the combat was fantastic where just popping guys in the air, punching them back, hitting them, then yanking them back, hitting them in the air for more combos. Hitting guys off buildings, they're dead. And I like how the game doesn't say anything about it. But when you finish that encounter, everyone's webbed up in a big ball and it's like, no,
Starting point is 00:33:39 it's fine. Spider-Man let them hit the ground and then... We saw him go flying and not pay attention to where he was landing and continue fighting. Not only did he die, but he landed on an innocent person. And it looks a little bit like Arkham combat, but it's not really. Like there was no real counter button. You can direct your hits left and right, but it wasn't... I didn't get that feel.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Again, going back to Amazing Spider-Man 2, that was just Arkham combat. I thought for sure there would be big steals on... Wait, Amazing Spider-Man 2. Amazing Spider-Man 2 was just Arkham combat with no variation. Question because a bunch of movies I've seen recently made me think about this and maybe think about what you just said. You know how in superhero movies, there's a kind of a thing, or even action movies in general, there's kind of a thing where if you don't see an innocent person die on camera,
Starting point is 00:34:36 you assume that everyone's fine and that everyone was perfect and that every... I can see their parachutes! So when cars go flipping... It falls out of someone's hand unless it doesn't show the lightsaber falling out of his hand. You have to assume they always have a lightsaber. Or like if you see like cars flipping in traffic, you know what I mean, or like crowds of people running from like giant explosions and stuff, you're like none of that debris
Starting point is 00:34:59 landed on anybody. In Superman, that was clearly not the case. Because the entire building collapses onto a screen. You can't just be like, oh yeah, it was evacuation day. Everyone was celebrating not being in the scene. Even though they totally... Take your kids to home days. Even though they totally do that and all the DC cartoons.
Starting point is 00:35:22 I remember there's some... I watch DC cartoon clips every now and then and there's the one where Sprang gives the speech back, oh everything's made out of cardboard and he punches Darkseid and Darkseid flies through like 10 skyscrapers. But I'm going to guess it's a Sunday and no one's at work. And Godzilla movies even, you know, like it's like those are buildings, you know. Lots of people die in those all the time. But like is it just like dumb to assume, especially like some of the newer Marvel movies too as
Starting point is 00:35:48 well? Or is it just ridiculous to just assume that that's still the case? Like can we not just look at what happened here and go... Did you see that man this week? Yeah, I'm going to talk about that. I did not. Like that would be a movie that I would think everyone's always fine. Because that's where my brain is going.
Starting point is 00:36:03 Only bad guys get hurt. No, because there's moments in that where I'm like, oh come on, that had to be collateral. So like there's nothing confirming it, but it's just a, there must be like some sort of trope rule for like your brain's, you know. Tell you guys about the Uncharted 2 thing with that. So Uncharted 2, I'm sure I did, but I'll remind you in case you forgot. I think I know this generally. There's a part where in the beginning of the game of Uncharted 2, you're robbing a museum.
Starting point is 00:36:27 A regular ass museum, staffed by guards. And I think it's in Turkey or something like that. And the museum is quite large. It's maybe 200 feet tall at the top. And you and your buddy just throw two fucking guards off the edge. Like casual, just like bye. And in an interview, somebody pointed out, it's like, what's up with Nathan Drake just fucking murdering those security guards?
Starting point is 00:36:53 And they went, huh. And then they patched in the guards at the bottom of the river swimming away. That's funny. This came up in Dead to Rights a lot. Remember, there's just security guards working. They're not criminals. They don't know what's going on, but they're getting the shit shot out of them very easily. Oh, that.
Starting point is 00:37:13 Yeah. Also shout outs to me finding out that Nathan Drake never gets hit. That is not true in one of three. That's a part four thing. Okay. That's true. One to three, you watch bullet holes come through him. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:28 The red vignetting on the edge of the screen and for an untraded four is Nathan Drake's lock running out. And when he gets shot at with too many near misses, he's like long shot. Eventually a bullet will hit him. But all of those are near misses. And that's what the damage is, which is weird because he used to be somewhat tanky in the chest and face from bullets. Well, because video games, this might, this might help you.
Starting point is 00:37:51 For the game, right? You punching guys up there, you go down the street level. There's tons of people. Your ex punch is now disabled. It goes this now. Yeah, big way. You go up to people. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:04 And I think when you unlock it, you can put your arms around people and take a selfie with them. Right. But you'll see a mailbox right in the middle of a bunch of people or you'll see a sewer grate and I'll say press L one and R one. You press that, he webs it up, spins it around and slams it in the middle of everybody. Everyone goes, whoa, but then they continue walking. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:24 So it has to really balance that fine line between I want to cause some ruckus, but I can't just attack people because another tenant of this, unlike some other spiderman games, like we don't want any morality system. We don't want accidentally hurting people does something negative because sometimes that will happen. There's nothing you can do. Sometimes I think we'll explode, but like Spiderman, it's not, he's responsible. So it's just all NPCs like that are just invincible.
Starting point is 00:38:52 I'm like, what are you supposed to do? I feel like you make them get tasered while you hit them with your bat fucking tumbler. I feel like there's an Assassin's Creed game where if you try and attack a civilian with your fist, it says the assassins didn't hurt innocent people. Well, there's some, there's some open world game that if you tried to punch a civilian, your character would juke at them and like threaten to hit them and then pull back scare the shit sounds like maybe infamous back because in the in the early ones, you would just desync more.
Starting point is 00:39:19 You know. Yeah, I forget what game it was, but it was it was really good. It's like, oh, your character's still fucking ass. It wasn't prototype because prototype prototype is the most murder everybody ever. It's like a Metallica album. Oh, it was your three. Okay. Now I remember.
Starting point is 00:39:34 I remember all the carol just just just tenses up at people. He'll tense up and freak them out. Big dogs. The audience. The crowd. Got a big dog. Everybody's great. So really enjoyed spiderman looking looking big forward to it.
Starting point is 00:39:47 I went down to the games later that day and finally put my physical pre. I know. What's up with that? Why would you do that? That's awful. You had to touch the store. I didn't.
Starting point is 00:39:59 You could. Your feet. You should. You should have internet at that. No, but I because I have a bunch of money cards. Yeah. Anyway, that's the reason actually going back to Spyro played that fucking all the boost for that big empty.
Starting point is 00:40:14 What? It's hard. I forgot. I played Spyro to a lot at a friend's house, but this is just straight up like three hits you're dead and you just take it for granted. But game does look like amazing when you just talk to NPCs like the animation on them is just like astounding. And you know, I always preferred Spyro to crashes style of gameplay.
Starting point is 00:40:36 Yeah. Yeah. All of it. I've never played Spyro once. Okay. I have no idea what the fuck those games are. They're 3D platform action games. The levels were not as hallway as Crash Bandicoot was.
Starting point is 00:40:47 I also never played Sly and then I got the collection and was like, oh, that's what that is. Yeah. I mean, Sly, I don't think Sly got that treatment already. I mean, it wasn't as often as as exhaustive as this. But there's that. I bumped into Ariane Saint Amour there. I was too nervous to say anything.
Starting point is 00:41:03 I ran off. Did you actually run off? Yes. Oh, that's great. You can you can ask Chris Ricks. Matt took off. Like at a sprint or at a leisurely job. Like, oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:41:16 I need to go to the bathroom right now, besties with with Ms. Jacob, but I would also run away if in real life in real life, yes, because you don't know what your body just locks up. Sometimes will he doesn't happen as cool people as you just say hello. It's fine. No. What if I fuck it up? Well, then you'll fuck you shouldn't have cooked all that spaghetti and put it in your
Starting point is 00:41:38 pockets. I shouldn't have. Well, I picked some things up like all of Amalgam. Oh, the full run. There's Bruce Wayne, agent of shields. Oh, my God. That's a double dose of fucking stupid. Why do you get this?
Starting point is 00:41:54 Because you can't get it online. At least I don't think so. When I'm done, yo, here you go. But we like just just looking at the cover of the legends of the dark claw. All right. I don't know what else is in there. Stupid shit. And we got a box time to get everything.
Starting point is 00:42:10 No, I read this first. Let's just quickly quickly. I forget what time to get everything wrong. That's fine. The covers. It's spawn, right? Amazon, which is Storm and Wonder Woman. Perfect.
Starting point is 00:42:24 Yeah, we know that. Magneto and the magnetic men. Yes, I don't know this one. And who is it? I remember that issue, but I don't know who the fusion is. Dr. Strange fate. Dr. Strange, that seems very obvious. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:43 Bullets and bracelets. There you go. Wonder Woman teaming up with a new Frank Castle. Castle and Diana together again. Finally, they love murder. I don't know this one either. Assassins. That looks like Elektra and someone.
Starting point is 00:42:58 That's definitely Elektra. I don't know who the other character is. Yeah. I don't know. And Ex Patrol. Oh, that's dumb. Is this Rob Liefeld? Ex Force Plus.
Starting point is 00:43:11 It looks like fucking Rob Liefeld. It is not. That's a big dumb. Super soldier, which is the obvious. Yeah. And Captain America. His hair is the worst thing in the world. Spider Boy.
Starting point is 00:43:25 Spider Boy is the shit. OK. I had that one. I fucking loved it. It was great. Speed Demon. I couldn't get the name of Flash and Ghost Rider. An amazing comb combo.
Starting point is 00:43:37 That's good. Strong. And JLX, which I assume is Justice. Is that a fucking airport? I forgot about JLX. Cyclops. I don't know who the fuck this little bugger over here is. It's like Joker and Nightcrawler.
Starting point is 00:43:52 It's like speedball combined with someone else. And then, yeah, Bruce Wayne, Agent Micheal. So I'm OK. I did see them all. I'd seen maybe half of them. I'd see. I'd definitely. Yeah, the comic book shop back in the day that I had them,
Starting point is 00:44:06 like had all of those. But like, was there not a like second revisiting that happened over some time or something like that? Everything. But I think there I think you might be right. Yeah, something. And I also picked up this. This is an issue of Thanos, who has a limited series.
Starting point is 00:44:20 You know who this is? Is that Ghost Rider? Is that Vengeance? This is Frank Castle, who died. Uh-huh. He became the Ghost Rider. Got it. He was then drafted by Galactus to be his new Herald.
Starting point is 00:44:36 Yeah, that's right. That's right. He got fired. Yeah. And now he's Thanos' new Herald. So it's the Punisher, Ghost Rider. And when people start telling me about this on Twitter, I'm like, what where?
Starting point is 00:44:47 OK. What? Matt. What? It's now official. I'm convinced. Everything about the Punisher that anyone likes for the last like 10 years has just been what if Frank Castle was someone else?
Starting point is 00:45:01 Because I don't have it here, but I have what if Frank Castle was Captain America. War Machine. The War Machine is real. But my point is it's always about what if the Punisher was not the Punisher, but actually some other more powerful character. No, actually, I would do that with a lot of characters too. But he has it the most.
Starting point is 00:45:19 I would like to slightly modify that. What if he had powers? Because look, he doesn't have powers. My actual modification with that was not if he was somebody else. Is what if the Punisher had the ability to affect more? To kill harder than a couple of neighborhoods? Yes. What if Punisher could kill even harder on a galactic scale?
Starting point is 00:45:37 Yes, exactly. Frank Castle Sorcerer Supreme became real. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He had a magic ooze. Because the thought of this murderer getting more power is always terrifying. Therefore, everyone wants to know. No galactic jaywalking for you, Silver Sorcerer.
Starting point is 00:45:55 Like as the War Machine, he just flew through a guy. He just he just flew and the guy was there and then he didn't stop. There's just pink mist. And that was it. Yeah. So, yeah, I'm excited to read all this stuff. There's a couple of issues of Thanos. Well, with this ghostwriter Punisher Herald in there.
Starting point is 00:46:15 So I'm going to I'm going to read those over the next few days. What is he going to call him? Ghost Punisher. OK, well, someone else talk about the week. I'll look to see what he's actually called. Punish writer. Yeah, bad. Honestly, I'm playing the same games I'm usually playing of note.
Starting point is 00:46:35 Is that stupid for honor shit on the news docket? Because it was fast. All right. So for honor, you know, I've been talking up for honor, been like, boy, for honors good as soon as last week's podcast ended. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Plans to make me look stupid as fuck to take contents out.
Starting point is 00:46:53 And they said, listen, there's way too much customization in the game. New players are getting totally overwhelmed because it's just crowding the UI UI is bad, but like fuck off. So what we're going to do is we're going to remove. I think they said like everything that came out this year to make way for weekly outfits and executions and shit like that to come out on a rotation and to make sure that everybody has a chance to get it.
Starting point is 00:47:23 There's like a 50 percent sale going on. So I should mention you can get like a thousand steel a day. The executions, which are quite expensive, but the lowest of the tier of these things would still cost like 4K. So that's at least four days of grinding for any particular execution. And there were two being removed for every single character in the game. And the outfits cost like 15K and they were being dropped down to 8K. So look, everybody and people went, that's fucking dumb.
Starting point is 00:47:53 Just fix the UI, you stupid idiots. This is exactly what you guys did to Rainbow Six Siege. But the Rainbow Six Siege, yeah, I know the Rainbow Six Siege stuff never came back. Like they never they said they were put on a rotation and never came back. And the executions, well, I don't know how much you remember, but the longer executions give you more health and certain executions kill faster. So it's a gameplay thing and it's the dumbest thing ever. And their Reddit exploded and then like, I want to say 20 hours later,
Starting point is 00:48:23 they came out, oh, whoops, no, no, we're we. It's the thing that drives me crazy. We mean, whoops, no, we miscommunicated our intentions. We're very sorry that we didn't communicate properly with you guys. Here's how it was. And then they rolled all that fucking stupid shit back and on top of that said, like, oh, yeah, also whoever was came up with this idea forgot that executions are a big deal. Those will never ever be removed under any circumstances.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Didn't that start as a list that someone inside like showed off like a memo? It was one of no, it was like one of their community people. This is their job. They said, hey, everybody, here's how it's going to work. And they put out a PDF on the on the For Honor subreddit that had the 600 plus items they were moving from the game, but only 146 unique ones. If you don't count the things. Well, if you want to squint and see the silver lining here,
Starting point is 00:49:21 the really, really blurry silver lining is that they wouldn't be doing this on something that wasn't profitable. Yeah. So the fact that they're continuing to like even have this type of initiative or whatever means that For Honor is making the money, which means that they're I just they're paying attention to I assume it made money for Siege for Rainbow Six. And I assume they were going to just do this and make money. But the big problem is that it's like, yeah, oh, there's so much Warframe does this, right? Warframe does the vaulting thing.
Starting point is 00:49:49 But Warframe has so much shit in it that when you don't vault things, the loot tables become nonsensical messes that you can never get what you want. Right. And then it plays into the whole engagement. This it's like we have we have to lock two executions for the Warlord away. It's just so confusing to have eight of them there on the menu. It's so confusing. For Honor reminds me of the kind of game that you would expect to be like the debut release of a small studio that they just not not not small, but not visually.
Starting point is 00:50:23 But how do I like it feels like like a Warframe style game where you're like this one this one small company that's not so big that they can drop it and not care. You mean like a little more naïve or inexperienced, not. But would keep supporting it over a really long period of time because they have to because it's their baby, right? Like Shovel Knight is to Yacht Club, right? It'd be it reminds me of that like type of game, except it's part of a much larger
Starting point is 00:50:47 company that can ignore it and not give a fuck. So, yeah, thankfully, they're not. And that's I'll take that as an over lining. In fact, like Jim got his back down in time. The sailor still on it says. Oh, yeah. So they they're like, as apologies, the sail will still stay up for two weeks. So feel free to buy these things at a discount.
Starting point is 00:51:09 Like the biggest craziest one is, well, you remember LaBringer, the guy with the big, the big poleaxe. So even lawbreakers, lawbreakers. So his best execution, like objectively, it kills the fastest and gives tons of hit was going to be removed with this, which would make the shittiest character in the game even shittier as a result of this, quote unquote, UI change, like fucking dumb. So good on that, I guess.
Starting point is 00:51:34 No, no claps because they shouldn't have done it in the first place. Aside from that, finally got back into pillars and it is nice to play. Like this is the fastest. The game has been stable enough for me to play of this genre ever. Yeah, I know I say it every time, but I blew like the entirety of yesterday. Just chilling in the main city because it's so fucking big and got around some goofy, like what used to be bugs. And now there are workarounds.
Starting point is 00:52:02 Probably the most interesting thing about it that I did not notice back when I played it upon release is it is the it is the game of this genre that your party composition in terms of like narrative affects you the most by far in that they talk a lot in quests in that they interject and change the way the conversation is going. So for a small example, oh, cool. I did this quest. So these guys were shaking down this dude and got a discount on his
Starting point is 00:52:37 on a ship building shit, right? And he meant he mentioned some trivial like region or place. And one of my party members remarks in an assholeish tone. Essentially, remember when the Navy fucking massacred all of you? Puzzies. Poof. Discount gone because I was in the bad because I was dumb enough to have this fucking imperialist in my in my party when I was talking to this guy. People are interrupting.
Starting point is 00:53:10 You're a party member interrupts your dialogue to say something stupid. And then that hurts it. Yeah, me either. Yeah, it's fucking weird. It's awesome. Ryuji. Yeah. I mean, that's what his character is fucking built on.
Starting point is 00:53:27 It's super interesting because, I mean, obviously, if when you play through the game, my primary concern is like, what the hell is their class in the in the party makeup? But it actually puts you in a position is like, maybe if I go rob these people, I should dump this party member at home so that they don't get all pissy that I robbed these people. Well, how about a feature? Could you possibly be like, oh, we're going in this type of town.
Starting point is 00:53:56 This is this type of shop and it's run by like this type of guy. Hey, look up the backstory of all your characters or whatever their things. There's like, maybe you should go do a chore over there. Do an errand. Well, we'll run in here real quick so you don't say something mega racist. Pretty, pretty much. Wait, can you do that? Yes.
Starting point is 00:54:16 Well, you can in in the summary for their character sheet, you can see all of their likes and dislikes. Yeah. So you can see that this person is a profound atheist or this person is deeply religious or you hate spiders or this guy loves animals. And this girl has stuff like that. And the one that gets me is that there is a party member that is a country bumpkin and she is a essentially a nun, hyper religious.
Starting point is 00:54:40 And you have a different character that is I could the character sheet lists her as anti religious because atheism for this character is not enough. Not enough. Yeah. And in a in a world in which gods walk around. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not that I don't believe in God. It's not I want to kill them. Yeah, I believe in them and I want them dead.
Starting point is 00:54:57 Right. Yeah. So we go to do I go to do the side quest associated with the priest character, which involves talking about visions and I shit you not after every single fucking line of dialogue in that quest, you get a little tag underneath that says Pellegrina huffs and rolls her eyes or Pellegrina sighs impatiently. And then I open up their stat sheet and I see like 10 ticks on their character sheet in a row saying, don't like her, don't like her, don't like her, don't
Starting point is 00:55:30 like her. And then their relationship bars that this massive red negative two and it's like, oh, if I go and do these things with these characters around, they will hate each other and they will shit fight and probably the best one is just walking around town. Just one of them goes, hey, you know, do you ever wonder what it's going to be like in hell? You know, what with you being the way you are and stuff.
Starting point is 00:55:55 I go, oh, I'm I don't worry about it because I'm not going there. It's like, no, you're going. You ever worry about it because I don't. And it's just like you fucking guys not for a second. It's like Kotor, but with bigger consequences. Yes. If you have a red and a blue on it, it reminds me of like you played Mass Effect one, right? Yeah, you know, in the Mass Effect games, you get to that point
Starting point is 00:56:18 where some of your party members just have a straight out shit fight. It reminds me of that, but a lot more consistent because everyone is with you at all times. Like it's just like characters that don't like each other. Every half hour, they will let you know that they don't like each other because they will say some snide shit or some nice stuff and ask about, oh, your bird's really nice. But it makes a bigger difference than you would expect.
Starting point is 00:56:44 Bird. Yeah, makes a bigger difference than you would expect because in this kind of game, you're on a top down view, wandering around, pretty detached for extremely long periods of time. So having them actually interact with each other instead of just being like, like think of Kotor, Willie, think of all the times that we were in a dungeon and Mission didn't say a goddamn word for like three hours, didn't say a fucking thing. It's nice. I appreciate it. That game's good. Pillars two is good.
Starting point is 00:57:12 I like it. For honors, good. I like the idea of like your parties just you're queuing up near the door of a fucking like shop and just one of them is just like, I'm going to fucking say something. Yeah, I'm just going to burst in. I'm going to pick my time and don't buy it from him. Unfortunately, building it up. Unfortunately, it is it is often much more difficult than that in which.
Starting point is 00:57:37 Oh, God, what was it? There's a fucking quest in which this this native guy, there's a native tribe there that are there pre-industrial, made a bad land deal with some corporation. Right. He goes, I don't you try and talk to him about forgery. And he goes, I don't know what a forgery is. You know, that kind of pre-industrial civilization. And one of your party members just pipes up as maybe you should have fucking gotten a lawyer, you fucking savage.
Starting point is 00:58:05 And it's like, can you can you not? Like, I know you you're not a fan, but can you just fucking calm it down for like a second? Yeah, yeah, I appreciate party because too often you have party members. That one's evil. That one's going to tell you to kill the baby or whatever, like a devil in your shoulder, basically. But they'll but is there any games where they will just kill the baby
Starting point is 00:58:33 ahead of you before you get a chance? I want to say yes. Yes, where it's like, you like what the fuck you do is in divinity to original sin. Okay, I was going to say divinity to original sin. There's a there's a part where you have Red Prince and Sibyl, the El, the lizard guy and the elf in your party. You go talk to a merchant.
Starting point is 00:58:55 And this is the merchant that sells all of the earth spells, I think. And you go to walk up to him and Prince goes, hey, hold on a sec. I need to talk to the sky. I need to do some magic shit. So he goes, okay, fine. You they go fall asleep. They have a dream, whatever they come back, take one more set. Sibyl goes, hey, before you talk to the sky.
Starting point is 00:59:12 About the quest that you are actually doing. Need to talk to him. You know, okay, stab, dead, quest, NPC gone. And your options are, uh, and why? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the only way to avoid that is to just not have that person in the party. Right. No car, no car.
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Starting point is 01:04:01 It's super cool. It's super cool. I have an update. Yeah, he is called Frank Castle, the ghost rider. That's really that's even dumber than I thought. I flipped to a random page and he's talking to Thanos and said, I'm going to go feed the dog right now. Do you want to help?
Starting point is 01:04:19 That's all that's good. I like that I called today. Got it. And did Thanos say it? It was he would like he said ellipses. Yeah, it's got a big, big like how Mastiff or something. How pissed is Johnny Blaze? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:04:34 He's probably dead. He's probably doesn't exist. Yeah, at that point, I imagine. Getting deliciously close back to Morbius there. The Morbius cast. For me this week. Yeah, so I'll start off with Ant-Man, I want to go see Ant-Man and Wasp.
Starting point is 01:04:56 Is the villain as cool as they look? The villain is is is pretty cool. And the watching ghost fight is really fun. It's a better power than the main character. Ghost design, aside from the color, looks exactly like someone from Reork. I want to say the woman character. Ghost is almost ghost is almost too cool for what ghost is, however.
Starting point is 01:05:21 The movie itself is all right. It's. OK. Is it better that did you like it better than the first one? No, I think I like the first one better. Oh, I'll also say that, like. It's the weakest part of Phase Three. Oh, no. OK. And Phase Three is a killer lineup.
Starting point is 01:05:42 But even like like not just the sequels, Doctor Strange, Black Panther, you know. But this isn't in the context of because I read a lot of people like this is such a breath of fresh air because it's not a dark ish big thing. I don't know. Did that bug you or is it just the overall quality? No, no, the overall quality, because I mean, I went in expecting more or less what I did with the first one, because I know the tone of Ant-Man
Starting point is 01:06:09 is not the same as the other. Because it would be weird if it was, right? There's no reason for that. So no, I'm going and expecting it to be, you know, more or less like similar in tone to what I got with it with the first one. But here's the thing, Guardians Two, for example, perfectly continues that flow and is hilarious and amazing in a really good time. And it had some darker stuff.
Starting point is 01:06:30 Right. Thor Ragnarok turns it around, right, and goes in a completely different direction, a better one and becomes a whole lot of fun. Right. And like Guardians Two. I don't know if I liked it more than the first. Maybe I did. I'm not sure. But the fact that I'm even debating that, I feel like I feel the fact that I'm even debating that it's like it's like a thing. I have to put the both qualities against each other and say what I liked
Starting point is 01:06:54 and didn't like, you know, and in this case, I feel like, no, I just definitely enjoyed the first one more. And this was, you know, it was all right. It was all right. I mean, people have definitely talked about, too, like the, you know, that it has a good stinger and like, yeah, that's there, too. But well, they better have a good stinger if it has lost. Like, I feel like I feel like it's all right for now.
Starting point is 01:07:17 And I feel like, and I feel like getting getting further away from it. I think like within a couple of months, if not a year's time, it'll be really forgettable. Because I'm not sure if I said it directly when I talked about it, but like when I thought about it a bit more, I much prefer Deadpool one to two. OK. Yeah, I remember you say the same or no. Yeah, well, it's again, it's hard to say because there's some stuff about two that I really enjoyed.
Starting point is 01:07:47 Because I enjoyed the fact that two didn't give a fuck. Yeah. Despite like it was a worse movie. There's nobility in that. That's what it is. It's hard to judge that, right? It's just about how much you care about that. It's almost how postal was a good time when we went to go see it because postal was like, oh, you don't give a fuck anymore about how bad you are.
Starting point is 01:08:05 And not only do you not give a fuck, I can see you there. Not giving a fuck. So there's an right there. There's an argument to be made that like as much as you don't like about it. The movie doesn't care, right? And in this case, yeah, I just kind of feel like it's unfortunately like there's some good punchlines and some funny stuff. T.I. kind of shows up, you know, oh, cool.
Starting point is 01:08:29 And and the the the the goofy, the goofy trio from the first movie. Do you even remember? So that's the best one I'm saying, like the like the goofy trio from the first one, from the first one. They're there and everything is a criminal trio. Yeah, but it's just a bit like much more forgettable this time around. And I feel as if the this is a movie, too, right? Because one thing about M.N.
Starting point is 01:08:49 One is that I struggle to remember the villain of that and what he was. Yellow jacket. Yeah, yeah. A guy from a thing show about the president. Yeah, sure. Much better jacket was one of the weakest of the whole line up. Oh, yeah. And a much better ghost is a much better villain this time around. You know what? Oh, you know what?
Starting point is 01:09:12 That's she reminds me of a fucking Destiny character. Yeah, yeah. But that's what I mean when I say she's too cool for what she is because. Ghost in the costume doing being ghost is this like, whoa, what the. And then there's not that much. It's like those those guys from The Matrix finally made a new and new movie. And so it's hard to say because, again, it's not like it wasn't like it wasn't funny or entertaining like it was.
Starting point is 01:09:37 But there's this is definitely the movie, though, that made me feel like I started thinking about that collateral damage stuff where I'm like, really? Yeah, what was that? Well, just the the the shrinking and growing of various things is in public places makes me wonder how people are not getting crushed. Yeah, like in the trailer, you see you see there's a car chase in the trailer where you see like they shrink and then they pop big and then the car goes flying. And it's a crowded like San Francisco mountain like road.
Starting point is 01:10:05 Like that car is going to go flying into people. There's a crowd that's going to act as like a cushion for that skinning vehicle, you know, like, and then bigger things and what not happen. So you kind of go like, whoa, I'm going to continue to have that suspension of disbelief and believe that like if the movie doesn't show people dying, that no one died, but it's getting harder and harder to believe that, you know? It's imagine imagine if you see a character like with a gun just firing into a crowd and then the crowd scatters and like it's fine.
Starting point is 01:10:38 But you're like, but is that possible? That's weird because it didn't see a scene like that. And it didn't show people like any impact. Then I assume that. Yeah, John Wick, too, has some right. John Wick's club scene. Yeah, is ridiculous. I'm not even thinking that I'm talking about the one they're fighting in Montreal.
Starting point is 01:10:57 Oh, yeah, sure. They're in the they're in the goddamn him in the underground city, him and the tall black guy when they're shooting at each other in a cute yeah, him and him in common are just going at it. Yeah, yeah, it's it's insane. And they're not looking at each other either. But you have to assume again, they're so skilled that they're not going to hit anybody. Just like they're like assuming that Frank Castle is not going to hit anybody
Starting point is 01:11:18 when he opens fire in that in that super power, when he opens fire in a hospital with a shotgun, right? You're like, are you crazy? And he's like, no, but I'm also not going to you have to assume, right? And this kind of there's a couple of moments in this movie, not a time, but one or two that definitely made me go like, that means people died. Like it's harder and harder to believe they didn't. But, um, you know, they're not lying as a heart of gold.
Starting point is 01:11:40 He'd never let anyone die. Never. Um, I will say that, uh, that what should we call it? What's his name? Director. Orphous Lawrence Fishburn and Michelle Pfeiffer are great. OK. And yeah, because they're great. They are. And even in his terrible role on John Wick, too, I was like, oh, yeah,
Starting point is 01:12:07 it's Lawrence Fishburn. He's fish burning it up. He's kind of like there's definitely like he's starting to have a Morgan Freeman where it's like you have a peak version of your personality that you can just be. Yeah, but it's a Morgan Freeman that'll stab you. Yeah. Um, well, in this case, Lawrence Fishburn is definitely Lawrence Fish burning it, but he I enjoyed it and I enjoyed
Starting point is 01:12:35 that, dude, was a dream warrior, man. It's true. This is a dream warrior. Um, yeah, I think the only thing left is Captain Marvel and the Avengers four, I believe so, of this phase. But I think it's not a stretch to say it's the weakest of this. See that fucking Spider-Man far from home fake mockup poster that looks super real. And I didn't know of it, but it was it's the worst fucking awful tease ever
Starting point is 01:13:05 because it's it's Spoderman hanging out on some fucking planet with his his his feet and ankles being eaten by black goo. Like it's kind of like, oh, no, he's he's in on another planet because it's called far from home because he's in Europe space, though. No, but they confirmed like Marvel is like, oh, it's gonna he's gonna be going to another country speaking of dumb comic book bullshit. I don't know anything in that Frank Castle Skull Rider headflame comic.
Starting point is 01:13:36 You mentioned that they were going to go feed the dog. Yeah. Did you happen to flip the pages past that to find out who or what the dog is? No, I did not. I would I have a feeling we might want to check that was page one of that comic appendix there. Yes, damn, it's really page one page one.
Starting point is 01:13:57 I think it was talking about the pen and stare and is using a visual, but. Talk to talk amongst yourself. Oh, no, just yeah, like, like Thanos has heralds, I guess. I know. Apocalypse has heralds. Everyone's got their hair. Oh, the Hulk, the the Galactus has heralds. Stro Hulk. Oh, we're going to go feed the dog.
Starting point is 01:14:18 It's the Hulk. Holy shit. OK, thanks, random guy on Twitter. Damn, Maestro's. He was Maestro gets around. Maestro's in lots of shit. He's Evil Hulk for all. He's Evil Hulk from the future.
Starting point is 01:14:31 Yes, yeah, he is a Evil Hulk from the future. There's multiple Evil Hulk from a future imperfect, I want to say. I remember reading the start of that, but never the conclusion. And it was like, wow, you're also rest in Spiderman 2099, where he's like, oh, the Maestro, fuck that guy. Full on a Morton Joe. Yeah, yeah, with it. Um, anyway, yeah, I think I'm just checking this out.
Starting point is 01:14:55 But yeah, starting with Civil War, Doctor Strange, Guardians 2's, Homecoming, Ragnarok, Black Panther, Infinity War, Avengers 4, Captain Marvel. That's a really good lineup. That's a fucking. That's what I'm saying, right? Like it doesn't. It didn't have much of a chance.
Starting point is 01:15:09 Those are all really good movies. But it's I don't want to say that there's no jokes or punch lines. There's some funny stuff in it. But yeah, that's that's how that was. I played some pocket fighter since that came out on the switch this this week. And that is like really weird. Yeah, it's really like the the the the training move, the training mode is kind of walks you through how different and weird this is,
Starting point is 01:15:40 because you expect it to just be like, OK, it's a small like Neo Geo pocket fighters style. All right. And you expect it to just be that. Yeah, but system wise, it actually does a really weird thing. We're like, OK, diagonals and holding a button is how you get special moves out. Ah, I don't know about that. Mainly not up diagonals, though, just down back and down forward.
Starting point is 01:16:07 Right. And it ends up working out fine. Although I don't. Although I am like a I don't like the whole tap and hold. I'm not a fan of that, but it is what it is. They have like, you know, tap for for like getting a crouching normal versus holding for the special move. But it takes getting used to and. But the the most weird thing about it.
Starting point is 01:16:31 That's really interesting play a little differently than you expect. Like they're almost guilty. You're asked one more to the extreme. That's where I was going, right? I was going with the fact that bar in pocket fighter does not mean the same thing for every character. OK, it's completely different. Everyone has meter usage that is like
Starting point is 01:16:53 radically out there. One person, its meter equals like a Shinkuhidokin. That's your normal guy. That seems pretty normal. But then you have another person where like it equals a parry. What? You now have a free orb that surrounds you and you have a free. That's just silly.
Starting point is 01:17:10 And that's full meter spent, right? And that's what the grappler gets. Another character just turns into a like a John tailbane werewolf for like like seconds. Yeah, like six, seven seconds. You get like maybe five seconds of werewolf. If you get hit, it goes away. You do like one or two moves tops and then it's gone type of thing.
Starting point is 01:17:34 And that's what that character gets. Another character, it just creates an after image of them like Bedman. Yeah. And then you choose when you want that to appear, you know, and that's what the whole bar does. So like it's these weird like things that are just like so, so different from everyone. Every character with that is really unique.
Starting point is 01:17:55 There's one character that like has like a it's almost like a car clover situation where there's a cat. Yeah. And they don't. The main character doesn't dash when you dash, the cat moves around the screen, but they just walk back and forth. And you position both to try and do like pressure from both sides. But it's it's fucking bad with those characters. It's really, really like it's an interesting
Starting point is 01:18:20 like thing that like went like, let's fucking go way out there with how different these characters are going to be from each other. I think at the end of the day, they're like, we can make a pocket fighter homage, but then that's it. Yeah, that's all we're going to do. So we let's find ways to make it different. And it's, I guess, up to the player, whether they're successful or not. Yeah. And it feels it feels very visually.
Starting point is 01:18:40 It's all on point, the pocket file. It does variation there. But like in some parts of it, they feel like very not Japanese. Like like the the amount of the amount of disrespect to to KO bodies in this game is very not Japanese. And I will say, too, that like since it's like it's kind of like like bare bones features right now. It's got like a versus CPU and it's got like a little career slash arcade mode.
Starting point is 01:19:05 Yeah, we're saying this to you. It's like it is very bare bones. It's still more stuff than flex. Yeah, you know, they're both they're both a little light right now. But I know more stuff's coming. Well, I mean, yes, hell, we've were invested in stuff coming. But I also found that because it's I don't know if there's difficulty settings, but I feel like it's always on hardest.
Starting point is 01:19:28 It feels pretty. It feels like maybe you're just bad and old. I I would like to to definitely like see some some more perspective on this because it feels like you depending on the character you pick, you're just going to blow out the other the computer or get blown out. And there's no like it's all rushed down all the time. There's no opportunity when the computer just starts on you. They stay on you.
Starting point is 01:19:54 And that's it. And you're really like, yeah, you're either your character has tools to deal with it or they don't you know, no computer. No, the yeah. And not to mention that it's also got a fantasy strike style system of hits equal like limited blocks of damage. So your life bar is actually made up of a pips pips. Exactly. So you have to take pips into consideration.
Starting point is 01:20:18 I like that system kind of I can appreciate it. I don't know how I feel about it. I wouldn't want it in every game. Well, it makes it easier to tell what how things are balanced. And what will kill you if you really know the moves. Yeah, you can you can see how long a thing takes to start up, how long it takes to cool down and how much damage it does when it does land. You know, but but if you tell me in a street fighter game,
Starting point is 01:20:40 oh, this does 150 damage, I'm like, OK, I what does that mean? I don't know what it means to turn my life bar. Right. You have to if you so like that's where you have to go a little you know, deeper kind of go like, OK, the life bar is a thousand. And this means that math plus an absolutely not. And literally, yes, math because people want to figure out what damage scaling is right in this game, though. It doesn't feel like there's really long combos.
Starting point is 01:21:02 It feels like you're going to jump in to like one or two normals to a special. So street fighter to ask, you know. Um, but yeah, I think it'll I think it'll be a good time. I think we'll have fun with it. But I'm just I'm just really like surprised at how different the game is being about being a fighting game when it comes to the character you think for a long time, its visuals and its trailers made it maybe kind of seem like it was more standard
Starting point is 01:21:28 because you think you're getting that when you see version and the early access one. I played the I played the Kickstarter preview because at least the steam version. I remember playing months ago and it did have these change these things where it's like, yeah, the special moves were done via diagonal and stuff. So I was always anticipating that. But I think overall now that the product's like more or less like done for launch, at least it's like, yeah, it did it is feel a little more. It's like unique is how to say it in a good way.
Starting point is 01:21:55 And it's like, I think you can certainly say that. But there's also like maybe awkwardness. It's going to take getting used to. But I do think I do like that they went for something different. Because the characters are all cool. Like all the characters are pretty strong. Yeah, I feel like if they went for something a bit more typical, then it would have been easily kind of dismissed as a game.
Starting point is 01:22:13 Yeah, I think that going for that helps it and certainly helps it on a switch controller, I will say, because that's, you know, you're playing on like fighting games are not great on the switch in terms of just on the options. Because you've got you've got a stick or you've got four buttons. There's no cross option unless you get the Nyko pad. So although the regular pro pad has a deep head. Yeah, yes. If you switch to a pro pad, that's true, too.
Starting point is 01:22:35 But I meant like of the joy. Oh, you mean on the on the handheld on your option sucks shit. So having those having that that like input system simply like makes that work a little bit better, you know. But yeah, so there's that. And then I also played a whole lot of Hollow Knight. Oh, so you're the first. Did you get in the Hollow Knight at some point, Matt?
Starting point is 01:22:59 Well, we did a video of it. Yeah, but she's the one you dive the fucking little bit past the video. We did, but not much. All right. So, Wally, you're the first one of us to dive into the game that everyone tells us to play. How's the whole night? Oh, that game's got stuff.
Starting point is 01:23:12 That game's got stuff. The first thing that I played it is that cartography system is fucking weird compared to every other game in that genre. It is. And to be perfectly honest, you know, maybe two hours in, you get everything you need for it and you're and you're sorted. But every time you enter a new area, this is a metroidvania where every time you enter a new area, you've got to find the map guy
Starting point is 01:23:34 somewhere in there and be like, hey, can I get a yeah. And then and then you'll get the map. But like just because you've gotten the map doesn't mean you've explored the map and certainly doesn't. So there's going to be a lot of time you spend wandering into random doors and then those doors lead to other doors that lead to other doors and by the next time you check your map, you're way off into like nothing like non space.
Starting point is 01:23:59 You're your little cursor for where you are always in a blank is an avoid. And you're just like, you know, I'm very lost now. You're like, where the fuck am I? And that's not even counting the areas where the map just doesn't come up because it's like, you just don't have one, right? There's areas where it's just like, no, no, you're just way the fuck out where wherever. Furthermore, once you buy because you buy your map,
Starting point is 01:24:20 you buy your your cursor to show where you are. Every individual thing that pops up on the map is also like like like shops. That's another that's another purchase. Updating the map with your own drawings is a purchase. And that's important because that means uncovering new areas actually stay uncovered. Yeah. So you know which doors you didn't go into and out of. And that doesn't happen as you do it.
Starting point is 01:24:44 It only happens on your next bench or death. Oh, so you will wander into God knows where really, really deep. And unless you fucking wrap that that up somehow, like hit a bench and sit down, that's that's a whole bunch of map that you just you you're not going to see how you update it, you know, um. Difficulty spikes, um, yeah, yeah, yeah, it gets really tricky. Some it's funny in the sense that like there's harder normal enemies in some cases than bosses and some bosses really just go like, OK,
Starting point is 01:25:18 we're just going to fucking go in on you right now. Um, bosses where it's a struggle to get through and then you get through. And then there's like a phase of like, no, you're not done yet. And, um, and the whole time, a lot of it is based on kind of the idea that it feels like you can just wander in like less optimal ways than others. And the game doesn't stop you. So like getting a damage upgrade, which it took me a while to find, yeah, was like, uh, it meant that everything I fought before that,
Starting point is 01:25:48 just you had to wail on it for a while. I would have made it like would have made it way easier to have that upgrade or to have that ability. In some cases, though, just kind of randomly exploring in a direction or going back somewhere that you just, you know, you just kind of see something that looks a little suspicious and then sometimes that little suspicious hole leads to like a little pickup. Other times that leads to a zone.
Starting point is 01:26:10 Yeah. And you're like, oh, fuck, you just, you see the title of the zone appear and you're like, uh, okay, wait, I was going there. All right, fuck it. And again, it's like really good titles for zones. It does. It does. It's very like, it's the kind of thing where you, you get to the new zone. You're like, uh, and then you walk forward and hit an enemy a couple of times and it doesn't die and you just slowly back out.
Starting point is 01:26:32 You have those. You have those. You have, um, like, like Hall of Wagon doesn't work here. Um, it does not work here. You have to just pick and commit to spaces that are conveniently in front of you. And you're like, and like, because sometimes you'll walk into a room and then you'll see a door immediately beneath you and then a zone of enemies above you and you're like, fuck it, I'll just ignore this room for now and go that way because the most important thing you're trying to do
Starting point is 01:27:02 is hit that map, hit that bench, then worry about it. It's almost like wandering into a new zone trying to find the bonfire. Yeah. That's, you know what I mean? You're like, I will, whatever, we'll figure this bullshit out. Whatever, whatever the fuck that thing is that's attacking me. I'll figure that out later. You know, um, Laura's strong, Laura's fun. World is fun.
Starting point is 01:27:20 Characters are all very well, uh, um, like put together and written, I feel. And you get an ability deep into the game that lets you squeeze a little bit of juice at more, a little bit more juice out of characters you thought you were done with. And that is really fun as well to kind of like go around and explore and play with. You, of course, the jumps between like, at first you get like, all right, I'm getting a spin attack.
Starting point is 01:27:53 I'm getting a little air dash or whatever. And then those jumps start becoming larger and larger to use to the point where you're like, OK, you're going straight into shine spark. OK, you're going straight into, um, like huge, huge buffs that are all optional equipment thing slots, right? So, um, the equipment slot system in this game, too, is also really unique because you have like three places where you can put on three badges if you imagine, right?
Starting point is 01:28:26 Get your badges and one badge might let you primed. One badge might let you swing and not go push, get not get pushed back when you swing, right? Another badge might let you let your sword reach a little further. And a third badge might let you let the money fly to you instead of you fly to the money, right? Sometimes that money comes to me. Yeah. And like, there's tons of little things in the game like that.
Starting point is 01:28:51 Then you start finding badges that take up two slots of those three. Right. So then you have to reconfigure your build to be like, OK, this is a thing that takes three slots so I can only wear one. But I assume it's good. But it makes me my magic really strong when I cast, right? Big magic. Then you find the shops that are like, here's how you get more of these slots. And then you're like, now I can put.
Starting point is 01:29:15 Mixing and matching and building and customizing so you can really, really figure out, you know, a build that works for you. And like, there's lots of options with that. And the more badges you collect, kind of the more you get access to these slots. So I know a couple of people like personally that like all started Hollow Knight were like, yeah, here's a Metroidvania and then they really get into it. Yeah, it's a game you can really get into. There's a lot there.
Starting point is 01:29:44 It takes a while to really fully like uncover an area like to really chart an area completely. It takes it takes a minute, you know, you can definitely just race through and just find yourself going from one zone to another to another and get collecting maps and whatnot. But like, yeah, to really scour and get everything out of a spot, you're going to be there for a minute. You've also got money that is on a like there's a death pickup system, right?
Starting point is 01:30:10 So, you know, don't die twice or don't die on the way to pick up your money. Money is also it's not hard earned, but like when you kill a person and like five coins drop out, that means you have five. You know, like you're not right. Yeah, it's not like you're going to pick up a money bag. Yeah. And and things get expensive, you know, like you're seeing things that cost like all that costs 18 so much customization. Then yeah, it's like that costs 1800 coins and this enemy gives me five.
Starting point is 01:30:41 Yeah, fuck, don't die. Hey, don't drop your coins. You know, there's some really awesome unexpected moments where like. It's mini FMVs just cut into the game and they're super seamless and like unexpected and really cool without really saying more. Like sometimes you just get these like, oh, fuck, we're suddenly a cut scene happened. Feels really tight, feels really good, can't recommend it enough. And yeah, like now I'm about probably like 15 hours in or so.
Starting point is 01:31:13 Oh, what do you think that is percentage wise? Or does it say? It's hard to say because it's one of those you have no idea when the game is going to end. Yeah, I definitely feel like I'm over the 50 percent mark, but I also saw on the main menu that like there's these DLC like campaigns. Yeah, there's been a lot of that got like three or four packs got dropped into the game.
Starting point is 01:31:32 So you might actually only be a third or less. So even if I hit the end of the game itself, there's there's probably entire zones that are of the base game of the base game. There's these DLC things that I'm like, I have no idea if I hit it or not. Well, you've been lavishing this with pretty large amounts of praise. Are there any notable flaws that really bug you? You. Bugs.
Starting point is 01:31:57 Um, is serious question. Nothing that nothing. Nothing that you can't fix with a different batch, right? Oh, does it do you not like how quickly like you get hit and you're invincible for like a second and then you have that recovery flash? Do you not like how fast you can get hit again? Put on the bag that lets you modify it into your preferred. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:22 OK, that's cool. You know what I mean? That's the thing like there's and there's little things like like I really hated the fact that every time I hit something, I got pushed back from it because there's some times where you're fighting things and you're really, really you're on like little man, Mega Man platforms, right? Little Mega Man two boxes and you're trying not to fall to a death pit and like you're you're you're doing these jumps and each time you jump and swing and hit the thing,
Starting point is 01:32:45 it's moving you a little bit off the platform. And so you have to reposition little moments like that. And I'm like, fuck, I don't want that. And it's like, oh, yeah, there's a badge for that. You know, any little mistake or thing that you don't like about how it feels or whatever, there's a badge for it. And that fixes pretty much like anything really. Yeah, you've convinced me to give this game another shot.
Starting point is 01:33:09 No, I won't spoil that. Yeah, don't do that. Only villains do that. Yeah, some really fun boss fights, really fun enemy types and a world that is really interesting in its like insect secretive name. Now, you know, a secretive name and all those mouse level stories. That's a bit more cheery than this. Well, gloomy game.
Starting point is 01:33:32 I mean, yeah, it's it's not this is gloomier than that, for sure. But he has that type. Yeah, but it's that type of like, let's let's let's zoom into the world within the world in the world. And and like you're swinging not a sword, but a nail, you know, and stuff. And yeah, some fun, some fun characters to be met. I'd absolutely recommend Hollow Knight. I mean, we already did when we we took a look at it on the channel.
Starting point is 01:33:55 But like, even when I played it, like I fucked around with it for like a half hour. I'm like, this game's great. Yeah. And then I put it aside for later. Yeah, there's a whole lot to go back into here. Fuck yeah, man, Hollow Knight. Good shit. I have a very cool update about Spider-Man on the PS4. The people have confirmed that they when you hit an enemy off a building, the game detects whether your hit is going to do that to him.
Starting point is 01:34:20 So it attaches a tripwire onto his body that webs him to the side of the building. That's great. And you see him get webbed up. There's a screenshot from a stream where they're showing it. You can crawl to the other side of the building and see that he's webbed up again. They probably sat there and was like, this is a stupid problem that we should probably solve. But we want to have you have fights on top of buildings, you know, where Spider-Man usually fights people. Yeah, so that's very cool.
Starting point is 01:34:46 Thank you, Twitter. Before we head over to news, I would like to have a everyone shut up. But I didn't want to interrupt you because you were having a Hollow Knight thing. It was very interesting. Everybody shut up. OK. Broly is cannon again. OK, he's going to be the new villain of the new Dragon Ball Super movie. Good. Oh, remember when? But is the movie cannon? Remember? Yeah, they're doing that now in the Toriyama.
Starting point is 01:35:12 So like in the last year because there's a lot of Dragon Ball movies that aren't canon, including Broly. But starting starting with the Gods of Destruction, they've just been movie versions of stuff they'll return. So you remember when I think the fucking director of a bunch of the episodes was like fucking Broly, no, the director of the Broly movie way back was going on Twitter, saying, man, Broly could fucking body everybody in the tournament of power, no problem, fucking badass.
Starting point is 01:35:39 Well, here it is. So that means back again for you. So the DLC Dragon Ball Fighters, Broly, is actually this new cannon future, Broly. No, he's probably going to be like Super Saiyan God or some stupid shit. Yeah, not to mention like, what does that make of the the Saiyan girls version of Broly makes them the knockoffs? They were always destined to be.
Starting point is 01:36:03 Gotcha. Well. Leave, leave Jiren to Broly. You know, Jiren says, leave Broly to me and then gets body. Well, that's that's nice. That's a nice little bone we got there. That's cool. But like Broly, he cool because he's a big because he's broke. He's Brock Lesnar.
Starting point is 01:36:26 Yeah, that's it. He's Bork laser. He's Brock Lesnar of the fucking Dragon Ball universe. And and and Paul Heyman is his dad. Does does it have the stupidest justification for being a villain of all time? Well, I'm a fucking baby. Well, yeah, yeah, I think it is.
Starting point is 01:36:46 Yeah, sometimes that that's fine for a big super muscle character. You know what I mean? Well, the problem is that he's like a talking person originally. That's true. Like he's a he's not a human being. But you know what I mean? Like he's a part. He has conversations.
Starting point is 01:37:02 Yeah, I can't think of any dumber. I'm trying actively. I'm sure there is just I'm going to murder you and your whole fucking extended family because when you were 10 minutes, you kept me up, you cried. That's it. Unless Goku sounded like that. No.
Starting point is 01:37:21 You know, not to mention you remembered that somehow. That's fucked up that you remembered that. I don't remember that, Broly. All right, well, yeah, because you were a slightly smaller baby. I was a huge muscley baby, said Broly. We moving on to news. Who was the legendary super baby, though? Yeah, it was Broly.
Starting point is 01:37:43 Are we sure? Probably because what about the leg? Where did the legend come from? Legend came from Bardock in that shitty movie. But then does that make that? Does that mean that Bardock was the legend? Yeah, it does. Straight up say that.
Starting point is 01:37:56 So then it wasn't Broly. No, Bardock went back in time. And it wasn't Goku when he defeated Frieza. No, it was Bardock went back in time to beat up Frieza's grandpa. Why are we retconning this legend like four times? It's because it's shut up. It's because it needs a legend,
Starting point is 01:38:09 but they realized that their legend was stupid. Because Bardock is popular because he's got the red bandana. Hey, here's an idea. Let's not have a legend. Let's not have a chosen one. Now we have. Let's not have a prophecy.
Starting point is 01:38:20 We made that mistake a long time ago, and now we can't. Unless you're unless you have a fiction where like you see how the dumb prophecy came to be based on some stupid bullshit. Like just no, there's nothing. It doesn't feel special anymore. And again, you shouldn't even be looking or talking to me because I think Super Saiyan 4 should come back
Starting point is 01:38:39 and just be the best one. So with the fur. Yeah, you see. Apple bottom team. You see the whole world is looking at her and like S.J. 4 versus blue. Good. That's stupid because it's four will win.
Starting point is 01:38:52 Hey, on that news doc, you got any of the must win. Do you got any of the Tettokon stuff? Sure do. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. Whoa. I just want to remind you if you didn't because there's a lot in there actually. Well, I'll start off with the coolest stuff.
Starting point is 01:39:05 Let's start off with the coolest stuff and only get shittier from there so people can just stop listening. All right. At the top of my cool list, Loco crazy, the guy who came up with frame fighter. Yes. Shot me a message showing off the cabinet
Starting point is 01:39:22 that they made for war at Warframe Tenno Con. Yeah, I think it was. I forget who it was. It was either Megan or or Rebecca who just took a shot of like a super close up shot of the of the button layout. It's going, huh? What's this?
Starting point is 01:39:39 They made a full on frame fighter cabinet that works and it has the game playing the fighting game. I don't know if you're aware of this, but there's a it's really stupid, but there is a flappy bird clone inside of Warframe. I did not know that. When you pick Zephyr, the bird Warframe, you hit a button.
Starting point is 01:39:59 It's the only frame that has a weird button on the side where it goes inventory or colors and it has an extra one and you click it and you play Zephyr bird or whatever. And it's exactly just flappy. We're so I assume this will actually happen with. That's what this is going to turn into where you just pick one of the characters
Starting point is 01:40:16 that is available in here and hit like it has the mini game side of it on their character select and you just play it. Super weird. It's so dumb. It's the dumbest. So I saw that. Congrats, Loco crazy again for getting that out there.
Starting point is 01:40:31 I saw something that was like, what the fuck is the name of the planet or whatever? Venus? No. Fortuna? Become. You need to give me more information. There was a Detroit become human parody name
Starting point is 01:40:46 that was an announcement from TennoCon. And I started reading it and then it started talking about the two story missions that you described. And I was like, I'm not going to read this just in case. Don't read that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:57 But it was like following on the trails of. The sacrifice. And sorry, following off of the war within and the sacrifice and the second dream, they are now bringing out the new war. And there was basically a parody name of something that in an announcement that sounded like it was making fun of Detroit.
Starting point is 01:41:19 Oh, I did not see that. Oh, no, okay. Well, I'm going to search quickly to try and find it. They announced that in a bunch of other Warframe things. No? They announced two big ass Warframe things. One was one that everybody knew about. They're going to.
Starting point is 01:41:33 So they had that open world on Earth. Tau becomes Centiq. Okay, that's, that does sound kind of. Yeah. What is Tau? I don't know. Okay. I'm not up to date on my Warframe lore.
Starting point is 01:41:44 Well, I mean, it literally was like after nearly three years of building up Warframe universe and through the cinematic trilogy of the second dream, the war within and the sacrifice, digital extremes announces the next big event. I shouldn't have read that. So that's where I stopped reading, right? I was like, that's interesting.
Starting point is 01:42:03 So I'm like, that name sounds like a parody, but those were very serious things you described that were important and good. So I was like, oh, shit. And then I should probably like leave that alone. Yes. So I didn't read past that first sentence. I read slightly passive.
Starting point is 01:42:22 Oh, okay. So they announced Fortuna, which is going to be the Venus big icy open world, like the Plains of Isle lawn that they showed off. It's way bigger and weirder looking. Like it's this ice mushroom hellscape with bugs. It's fucking weird. Alongside that, you also get a hoverboard, which is new.
Starting point is 01:42:44 But the thing that got everybody to freak out was the expansion past that, that nobody knew shit about, which is called Railjack. And if you saw a bunch of footage of from Warframe coming out this weekend that made no sense to you, it was probably from this. Okay. So Railjack is going to be you and your party
Starting point is 01:43:05 taking control of a big fucking spaceship, guns of Icarus style with a pilot and weapons people and engine room guy doing big ass ship combat. Cool. Including, That's a different video game. Including, you need to go disable that other ship. Hold on, let me hit the airlock, fly over
Starting point is 01:43:27 and go into the level and disable this other ship from far away. That's a completely different video game. They keep doing that? I don't know how long you've had your ear to this shit, but they keep doing that where you go, that's a totally different video game. It's crazy.
Starting point is 01:43:46 I think a friend of mine was even describing that like, yeah, to win the encounter, you have to get to the right spot and then turn off everything on the ship to power up the gun to the absolute max and do shit like that. Digital extremes, huh? That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:44:00 Wow. Game's also coming to the switch. Yes. So good for people who want to play this game in their beds or on their toilet. So I guess one thing I'm wondering is I haven't heard of TennoCon until this weekend. Until the second.
Starting point is 01:44:15 So like when... That is in London, Ontario. Oh, really? And like, is this the second or third one? It has been going on for a while, like four or five years. Yeah? So it's been, Warframe's been big enough
Starting point is 01:44:27 to have its own con for a couple years at least. No, it hasn't been big enough, but because it's right near where the developer is, it's like easy to do it, you know what I mean? Imagine if they do this in Los Angeles, they wouldn't do it, but because it's in their backyard. Yeah, this is next door to the studio.
Starting point is 01:44:45 Yeah. In London, Ontario. It's a good idea. Like, you can do it in an MMO, but it's like, it's very ambitious. I don't know what this game is anymore. I'll tell you what though, Destiny looks really stupid after that Railjack demo.
Starting point is 01:44:59 Like, I cannot think of a single game of this type or even close to it that just decided, hey, let's add space combat other than that one tour expansion. Do you remember that one where they added ships that you could do space combat in? I didn't pay attention to tour. But yeah, that's fine.
Starting point is 01:45:24 Oh, not looking at that. Okay, well, any, any, it's the, it's gone, it's gone. It's gone. I was like, let me just play a teaser from their announcements. The developer straight up said, if you didn't finish sacrifice, turn the stream off. All right, well, you know what?
Starting point is 01:45:39 It's then, fuck it. We're just, I just decided to. That's the way Warframe quests work. I decided, hey, we're watching some TennoCon footage here. Let me just play a video of hype gameplay. I know. As someone's right up there. Their teasers are Sephiroth walks back out
Starting point is 01:45:55 from back from the dead and goes, time to go kill Goofy. Like, someone's like, Leave Jiren me. Someone's like, why are we watching hype gameplay instead of this? Then I'm like, okay, let me put up some hype gameplay. Oh no.
Starting point is 01:46:08 So, so, all right, we'll just leave it, we'll leave it here then. For the future wolves, in order to protect yourself, if you ever decide to jump right in. I am. The way that you do it is, is the video clip you're looking at have a title? Let me see.
Starting point is 01:46:22 If the clip has a title of any kind, don't look at it. Let me simplify. I will just not look ever. That works. I'll just play game if I play game when I play game. Like if they, if they, if there's a, is there's a footage that somebody says like,
Starting point is 01:46:36 Fortuna open world, whatever, that's fine. But if it says, rise from grave, or whatever, just don't look at it. Man, this thing's, this thing's got some people. You could look at the Fortuna trailer if you want it. This has got some people are saying the Fortuna trailer, that's what they're saying. You could, the Fortuna trailer has a lot of stuff.
Starting point is 01:46:55 Is that old? No, that's from this weekend. Okay. That was them showing off the open world. Cause they had the open world that had a, one faction, the Grineer, and then this is the second one they're making that has the other faction, the Corpus.
Starting point is 01:47:07 So this is not story content? Hell no, no. This is them running around a big open world on a jetpack, on a hoverboard, which hopefully is not consumable. I bet it's going to be fucking consumable. It's going to make everybody very sad. Okay.
Starting point is 01:47:19 I hate it. Cool. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah. So, Any other announcements? They did the switch version. They announced Railjack.
Starting point is 01:47:28 They announced Fortuna. They announced that a bunch of the open world changes that they're going to make to Fortuna are going to get rolled back into the game, which is something, it's kind of a problem that Warframe has a lot in which the new area has the new stuff, but then the old area still works the old way
Starting point is 01:47:48 and it sucks. So- Oh, like gameplay is clashing up into each other. So they're going to roll these changes back into the older areas to kind of keep it up. And then they announced- I just saw a zip board. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:00 No, that's your little hoverboard thing. They announced that they were going to have their, you know, this weapon or that weapon. They announced that they're working on a vampire frame and a frame that looks like a female Nubis. And I say that in that it literally has the fucking spikes, the blades coming off the arm, just like a Nubis. But, oh, and Graham is getting primed,
Starting point is 01:48:23 which is fucking stupid. Okay. Oh, and the frame that I used in all of my streams that I paid $40 for is getting unvaulted in like a week or some shit. So if I had waited, whatever, it happened. What song? What song?
Starting point is 01:48:41 Play the song? What song? They want the Devil May Cry song, you asshole. We're doing news right now. Okay. That monster is actually your fault. About a hundred times larger than it appears. Is it?
Starting point is 01:48:54 Yeah. Because that's- That is about 200 feet tall. That's a fucking monster. Yeah, there are people that live in it. Wow. Wow. It's weird.
Starting point is 01:49:04 That's cool. I love Warframe's weird, bio-organic, techno-space shit. It's unique. It's so much more interesting than everything in Destiny. Yeah. Oh, Fortuna has a song, apparently. Oh, I did not know that. I did not listen to any of the songs.
Starting point is 01:49:19 Very yugu. I'm sure the song is a spoiler. Yeah, music spoilers are real. I know they are. They're just super real. Don't look at the track list for near. Yeah, exactly, there's that. But even just hearing a thing before you want to hear a thing.
Starting point is 01:49:37 Although it was really weird watching Tron Legacy again the other day and knowing them. Did I say that last week? I think I did. Like knowing the soundtrack top to fucking bottom while watching the movie. And as soon as the first note hits, I'm like, oh yeah, it's this song.
Starting point is 01:49:50 Oh, that's what the visual was. Because that's the one time where I knew the soundtrack way more than the movie itself. I can see that. All right, let's get into some news. So yeah, that's getting a switchport. That was a piece of docket news. It's being my panic button.
Starting point is 01:50:07 The guys who did the doom and Wolfenstein ports. So they can fucking do it. Panabun sure turned from making one of the worst games ever, Sonic Boom, to making some of the best ports ever. So yeah, I don't know if there's a date on this, but no, it doesn't have the, I'll tell you what. Release window. You know what?
Starting point is 01:50:28 Warframe's really bad with dates. Sacrifice was coming soon for like a year and a half, and then it just drops. When it's ready. It is the most when it's ready it's ever been, ever. Here's a question. When you port a new version of this game that has so much built up free content over the years.
Starting point is 01:50:47 That's correct. Do you even, like, how do you handle stuff where the window of opportunity to get that thing was way back then? OK, so. And you just can't do it anymore. I will explain this again, because it's complicated. The only thing.
Starting point is 01:51:05 Unless you just log into your profile. No, no, there's no cross stuff. The way, and it's not just because of Sony's cross-play shenanigans. It's also because the way that money works between the versions is different. The only shit that is genuinely actually exclusive forever is Excalibur Prime, the main guy on the box,
Starting point is 01:51:27 because he was a founder's pack back when the game was broke. And they're legally prevented by that contract from ever selling that frame ever again. I think there is also one gun that came with that. That is also. But that gun is terrible, right? So here's why sacrifice is important. When sacrifice dropped, it added a new type of frame
Starting point is 01:51:53 to the game called an Umbra, which is a dark, evil-looking version of Excalibur, which is for everyone who can't get Excalibur Prime. Gotcha. It just replaces that niche entirely. So anything that would be. In terms of a new port. In terms of a new port, they would port the current console
Starting point is 01:52:11 pack. And anything that's vaulted would be vaulted. Anything that's unvaulted would be vaulted. And anything that is currently vaulted will, at some point, be unvaulted, or you could trade for it with Plat. OK, so anyone that's new here is just going to have to wait a little bit.
Starting point is 01:52:26 Or Payola, the money to Sephiroth 420. OK. OK, I got to correct myself. It's not Panic Button that made Sonic Boom. That was Big Red Button. It is. That's a really similar name. Is Umbra actually better than Prime?
Starting point is 01:52:43 OK. Panic Button made stuff like Hulk Hogan's main event for the Kinect. Miss Explosion, man. I guess. It's something called Primal Carnage. Yeah, I think they just port a lot of stuff. Like, they port they did re-core, apparently.
Starting point is 01:52:58 They worked on the Ruby game. Yeah, so there's that. God, the fucking Sonic Boom developers must be doing shit all. I feel like Warframe, now that it's entered into the consciousness of here, it's going to come up every six months and be like, so they added racing. They added a dating simulator.
Starting point is 01:53:19 I was about to say dating simulator. Like, it's the Uber. It's the ER game. I feel like all the like all news for a while now has become like this is getting ported to the Switch. Yeah, like tons of people who were people who were late on supporting it are going, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's all happening now.
Starting point is 01:53:42 And the scramble is happening now. Unlike the Wii, people are finding like pretty big success. Like, especially with like an MMO like this, like Fortnite, I don't know. It was just, yeah, two million downloads in like a day. Fucking do it. And then Paladins or what's the other one? Yeah, Paladins.
Starting point is 01:53:59 And then now this, like. Like, I grabbed the Ecaruga on PS4 the other day, you know, and then I was like, I'm just going over Hall and I'm like, oh, fuck, it was on Switch too. You know, like I recently hung out with my six-year-old nephew and he's like, hey, do you play Fortnite? And I'm like, no, actually. I want to play it, but mom and dad won't let me play it.
Starting point is 01:54:20 And I'm like, oh, that sucks, kid. But I played at my friend's house. Good for you, kid. You show mom and dad. So the date on Darksiders 3 was always nebulous. However, Darksiders 3 is starring the ever super exciting horseman fury woman with whip. However, November 26th on the Microsoft Store
Starting point is 01:54:53 was sort of leaked a little bit. The last time they showed footage of the game, it looked a bit better. But like that first showing of footage. Oh, man, the one that should never happen. Early last year. That seems to me like you need more time than November 26th, but whatever, what do I know, probably not.
Starting point is 01:55:09 It's been quite on the Western front for a bit. Did you see the $400 version of this game? Does that include the game? Standard Edition is a copy of the game pre-order bonus with an armor skin. Deluxe Edition is a copy of the game, a bunch of pre-order bonuses, and two played downloadable content.
Starting point is 01:55:24 24 hours of early access to the game. That's crazy. That's horrible. Then the Blades and Whip Edition is a copy of the game, a copy of Darksiders War Master, a copy of Darksiders 2. Definitiveness. Definitiveness. Definitive.
Starting point is 01:55:39 Definitive. Fucking Warframe. Why do the THQ games do this? What was the Red Faction Guerrilla re-release? What was that called, you know? Re-Mars Turd. Oh, that's good. It's not good.
Starting point is 01:55:51 That's good. It's good. Two-paid downloadable content, so 24 hours. $400, you said? There's a $400 version. The destructor had an article. Oh, well, can you scroll down on this page for a second? I want to show you something.
Starting point is 01:56:05 So you see with the Warframe logo? Yeah. The Warframe ad? Yeah. The Warframe logo has always been that lotus. Yeah. The symbol for the new quest is that inverted but jacked up for the new war.
Starting point is 01:56:16 So it means a big deal. Yeah. OK. It's kind of a big deal. What was that last little UI thing? What was that last version with the other two games called? Well, it's chain and whip. Chain and whip.
Starting point is 01:56:28 So apparently there's an apocalypse edition that has $400. Apocalypse edition is what it's called. Apocalypse. OK. OK. If you don't feel like there's this retriever still over, it's just what's in the apocalypse edition. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:56:43 Found it. Found it. You found it. It comes with statues of all three guys. Premium box, wall, scroll, fabric, print, four figures, a fury, vulgar, war, and death. Vulgar, my vulgar. Who the fuck is it?
Starting point is 01:56:54 Because they haven't designed the fourth one yet. Vulgar is Mark Hamill's character from the first game. The one that always hung around war is like, hey, you got to do that. Yeah, I'm your evil helper. A heavyweight amulet, an original steel book, art book soundtrack, Dark Siders 3, and exclusive armor deals. Now I like Dark Siders. I think we're all like, yeah, Dark Siders is fine.
Starting point is 01:57:12 Does anyone like Dark Siders $400 much? No. I would need to play one of the games to make that decision. That means, yes, he does care that much. The statues aren't even that great. Look at that amazing pose by death. Yeah, it's kind of. I'm standing here with my scythes.
Starting point is 01:57:30 Oh, man, there is a better statue of him that got released with the game proper. Don't sell that. Let me find that. Oh, man, you should have a cool statue of death versus Dante's Inferno and have the two scythe boys. But Dante has a slightly bigger scythe. And plus, death can get other weapons that aren't scythe.
Starting point is 01:57:49 And then behind them, death scythe is just hanging out. Go on. I don't know about that, Shoa. Scythe? Moving on. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's too late for me and Dark Siders. I really think it's too late.
Starting point is 01:58:07 It's too late for you for Arkham Games 2, apparently. No, but I actually might like unlike. But the difference is Arkham Games are like, yeah, even when I was watching people testing and stuff, I was like, no, no, no, it's Batman. I'll play and fucking I can get into that. I'll play 15 years late. I don't have like an interest in what in Dark Siders.
Starting point is 01:58:25 Well, Dark Siders 2 has phenomenal combat. Yeah, that's and that's my biggest seller. Siders 1 does not have your your pitches over the years have been the biggest convincers because there isn't a natural draw. Yeah, you know, better than that, the statue, the one where he's on his horse. Oh, that's way better.
Starting point is 01:58:43 I like that. That's a cool. That's a cool horse that looks dead. Yeah. And evil. Oh, you know what? I'll probably I'd probably dig it as soon as I just gave it a shot.
Starting point is 01:58:53 I'm sure the definition of it. You would like to a lot. Definitive edition. I bought and played a lot more than the original and I enjoyed it. But it does get very grindy because that game is all about loot, whereas the first one is not.
Starting point is 01:59:05 It sure ain't. It's Zelda. It's a Zelda game. The first one. Yeah. And then the second one is not a million other things to to, you know, million other things you'd rather fucking to pump, pump, pump, pump, pump, pump, pump, pump. Hey, baby, baby, baby, baby, you know what?
Starting point is 01:59:18 I can you know what I can do with more of? Like what's that? Darksiders can do its thing. Yeah, more fucking Ninja Warriors, baby. Taito is resurrecting Ninja Warriors for the switch. And I don't say I called this often because I don't. I was like, I sure hope it's Ninja Warriors. You did say this.
Starting point is 01:59:35 God damn. I love Ninja Warriors. Bring it the fuck. So this is the one I sent you scroll down a bit. It shows one blurry screenshot from the Famitsu, which I really like because it seems like they're doing some shit with it. So the latest issue of Famitsu reveals Ninja Warriors again. I love Ninja Warriors again.
Starting point is 01:59:55 Dude, I love it. A tentative title at this point. No, it's not. It's not what it was called. Look, it could be called Ninja Warriors again in Japan, but it can't be called in North America. Don't lie to me, article. That's the name is a development for the switch.
Starting point is 02:00:11 It is expected to launch next year. Screenshots of the magazine show the 2D title. Let's keep it at the previous centuries of the series. So look at this. They expanded the play field so it's a lot bigger. No, it's but in. OK, in Japan, I saw the original Ninja Warriors cab in an arcade. I know.
Starting point is 02:00:28 And it was on the same screen set up as Darius screen set up. But the but Ninja Warriors, the game, the Super Nintendo was not. The Super Nintendo version of the game, seeing both together. Because, yeah, this is so that's what it is. The Super Nintendo version of the game was, in fact, part two, which was the console small screen thing. But because it never came out in Super Nintendo, but there was no way for this original game, that's multi screen.
Starting point is 02:00:51 Final Fantasy problem. What console would you port that to? Like who's fucking plugging in three monitors to play Ninja Warriors? Nobody. I am. Yeah, well, he's a rare person. But this is this is because the game is a one plane beat him up. That's only one player and it's all balanced around it. Like, yeah, guys only take one or two hits to go down.
Starting point is 02:01:13 Yeah, balanced around it. And you can and you can fucking jump off of heads if you balance it proper, if you aim it properly. So I'm really, really excited to see like what else because they added so much to while guns and they confirm this is the exact same team. There were two while guns reloaded. And so Taito now it's the question is what else are they going to dig up? Rainbow Islands, Puzzle, Bobble, Bubble, Bobble, Rastan, Space Invaders.
Starting point is 02:01:37 I'll be real. I could obviously go for another Space Invaders extreme. Bubble, Bobble played the arcade. Bubble, Bobble, the most incredible arcade version of the Space Invaders. It's made by Raw Thrill's Bubble. Fucking Bobble was my first video game addiction. That's the first game I was like super into to the point. And we didn't have a copy of it and my stupid fucking cousin did.
Starting point is 02:02:02 And they would torture me so because all I wanted to do when I went to their house was borrow fucking bubble, Bobble. And it would be like, oh, you want Bobble, Bobble, Bobble run to the corner store, get us all free Z's and run back. And if you do it fast enough, I'll lend you bubble, Bobble. And like I was there. You had no legal recourse. There was nothing to do except do it.
Starting point is 02:02:30 Now, Wally, I should mention you are a big and tall person. Were you not a big and tall child compared to the rest of my family? That is taller. I am like the shortest. Oh, yeah. Of the litter. Me and Wally have that in common. Think about that. No, no, no. Doesn't work that way. But no, I'm actually the tallest in my family.
Starting point is 02:02:49 It's fucked up. And fuck, dude, like they would make me just do stupid shit. But you'd have to do it. I would do the fucking chores and run around like an idiot. That's awful to get fucking bubble, Bobble, because I love that game so much and and and and and and they knew. And they would always like anyway, they'd always fucking be stingy with it.
Starting point is 02:03:11 You should have just stolen it. Yeah, but thou shall not steal. Yeah, that's true. Thou shall not trick your relatives into doing a bunch of bullshit for bubble, Bobble. That's in there. I saw it once. It was on the third.
Starting point is 02:03:25 It was on the third tablet that broke. Yeah. Fifteen crack. Ten commandments. Anyway, I really hope you had like a two player mode, like a separate mode. Like it's the balance of the main game. It's never been a two player game. No, it's something I'm like, I'm like a bonus mode, like a camera mode. But the fact that it's one plane means that the camera
Starting point is 02:03:48 with two players would get weird. Didn't didn't the original cabinet have two players, though? One. OK. You only had you only had Konoichi in it. And then in Ninja Warriors, again, you got Konoichi, Kamaitachi and, of course. No, the original Konoichi and then you just had a blue ninja named Ninja. Well, Ninja was the one. I know, but actually fucking serious.
Starting point is 02:04:09 No, I mean, their names were Konoichi and Konoichi is the red ninja up top here. Kamaitachi is the robot here. OK. And this big blue robot is Ninja. That's great. Yeah, that's great. So that's what's up. I can't wait. You will wait. There's a lot of action games you have to wait for.
Starting point is 02:04:30 So start waiting now. Like that guy is what I mean. Oh, yeah. OK. There is just the blue blue blonde ninja. Oh, I just have a quick two sentence news thing to say. Is the Monster Hunter thing on there? No, no, but yeah, we can. Hey, sure.
Starting point is 02:04:46 Nothing to say other than, hey, everybody, Monster Hunter World's coming out on the PC on August 9th, which is many, many months faster than it was expected. Yeah. So that's nice. The only I don't think there was anything besides just that they put out the specs and stuff like that. Sure. The weirdest thing about it is that it's competing with the Switch version of Monster Hunter generations.
Starting point is 02:05:09 That's coming out like two weeks apart. That's really bizarre, but whatever. Hey, it's coming out in summer. Yeah. What the most bizarre fucking thing, if you want to get into that is whatever or whoever is running the Def Jam Twitter. Yeah. No, that's wild. Because I don't like there's no reason to do this unless there were not some plans. But I don't think there's anything.
Starting point is 02:05:30 I think Def Jam just just trying to do their little test the waters thing. That's fine. Despite the Def Jam test. And also, we know that Def Jam doesn't understand why those games were successful. We know, we know, but I do have no idea of Vendetta up there and not icon. Yeah. Well, that means they do know something because that means that years later, someone came to them and yelled loud enough to be like, Hey, idiots, it had nothing to do with rappers and it had nothing to do with like the fucking the fact that this was a an EA game or whatever. Music.
Starting point is 02:06:02 This was everything had nothing to do with music. It had everything to do with the fact that it was the Aki engine. And they just didn't believe in that. And that's why they made icon. I'd say it was like 90 percent and then 10 percent was like rap was getting it was super popular and they had a couple of guys in the country that held. But if they didn't, if they didn't make Def Jam, if they made it. An original fighting game, we would have been clamoring for that game to come.
Starting point is 02:06:27 Yeah, but then you wouldn't have been able to have the fucking crow is Snoop Dogg. The evolution of the Aki engine. I'm working on a video right now where it was going to be WCW mayhem, too. But WCW closed down and it was supposed to be with EA. It was supposed to be the Aki engine. Then they went fucking, we have nothing to base this on. And they settled on Def Jam. Yeah, but my point is that that engine is the is the star here.
Starting point is 02:06:57 And that engine is the reason why anyone gives a fuck. So Def Jam coming out with icon later and EA going here, you can have the fight night engine just shows you a massive misunderstanding. It was very sad, whether you know what I mean? They didn't get why their shit was fire. They had no idea why people loved it or they thought it was just like, oh, it's because of the it's because of the. Yeah, yeah, you know, it's like other other other.
Starting point is 02:07:21 We pop that in like a famous collaboration to like for shits and giggles. And I was like, and I never played up to that point. And I was like, I just seen screenshots and I read reviews and I was so disappointed back then when I actually play, I'm like, this might be one of the biggest downturns of quality I've ever seen. There's something about that you hadn't played icon. Not when it was new. I played that demo when it came out.
Starting point is 02:07:43 My heart sank and that came from somebody who never played the original. I played the demo and then I remember the YouTube era of like when Mugen was first getting popular on YouTube, how icon videos of like new rappers were being edited in because there's a custom character mode. And like that was a big deal is watching like when fucking Soulja Boy came out and they're like, yo, I made Soulja Boy. We can have Soulja Boy versus Chief Keef. And like, and that's all the fuck it was.
Starting point is 02:08:09 But I there's something that really pisses me off about these situations where someone is associated in a collaboration that way overplays their hand and doesn't understand what they're worth in the grand scheme. But I can see this being as a thing that we don't know the exact setup. Maybe they're doing this to maybe have a signal point for EA to go, oh, look, they got a hundred, whatever, a thousand reteats. That's cool. Like, you don't know exactly.
Starting point is 02:08:40 It might be a stupid thing. Like you're not even I'm not even I'm not even on the story. I'm just on like the past of like of this situation reminding me of Halle Berry being give me more lines of storm. And everyone's like, no one gives a fuck, Halle Berry. She's like, no, but I'm important and I'm I'm me. I'm the hottest. I deserve more.
Starting point is 02:08:59 And it's like, but you're making it worse, Halle Berry. And you're like, no, but I'm me, though. Like that feeling really annoys me because like, will he not? Everyone can be as classy as Dante from the Little Micra series. It just annoys me because in this case, like why would anyone like not why would but like the fact that those fun wrestling games were fun wrestling games, I'm sure is also lost on WCW and on WWE, you know, and it's like you fucking idiots, you don't understand that ackee, as McAce, the God is gifting you
Starting point is 02:09:35 with an amazing game that's super fun. You have the privilege of putting your characters into it and anyone that touches this, any IP that is lucky enough to touch this engine will be a huge hit. But then they walk away thinking that they're hot shit. The engine nowadays is exactly what a lot of publishers strive for, where it's very easy to get into so people can pick up and play. But it's also has a lot to master. Therefore, people will continue to play it.
Starting point is 02:10:06 And it seems like such an easy sell, but it's like it's just not happening for whatever reason. I mean, business reasons will make them go, oh, that sold well, let's make more of that with the same people. And then that'll get that'll get the result. But deep, deep down, there's a Paul marketing that in every group and every company here that actually just thinks that no, no, it's about the brand and they don't get that the developers work is what's making this. I don't know if you know this, Willie, but people love brands.
Starting point is 02:10:33 Sure, they do. They love their brand so much. They'll buy anything with a brand on it. But this is the hard, the hardest example of it could have been block men. It could have been Dural. Yeah, it could have been fighting polygon. I don't know about Dural, but but but that is why people went to this. Could have been a Rocky Horror Picture Show wrestling game.
Starting point is 02:10:54 Holy shit, I'd play that. Yeah, you know what? I that's actually way cooler. Fucking meatloaf on his motorcycle. Yeah. So it makes no sense about this article. You own D-Mob, so you don't have to ask anyone for the permission. So the story, so the story because this is all pre-cursor is that the Def Jam Twitter just put out a tweet going hypothetically, who would you like to
Starting point is 02:11:18 see on the cover of this game made a comeback and they took the Def Jam Vendetta original box and they put a question mark where D-Mob was. And it's not like the original cover had Method Man or DMX. Yeah. So the answer to that question is D-Mob. Yeah. Yeah. That's who I would like to see. Whose voice actor is very in vogue right now. I think I really do think though, like let me just do a little fucking bullshit
Starting point is 02:11:43 investigations here. But this thing got like close to six K likes and they're tweeting out regular shit on the random that has no interaction whatsoever. Yeah, following it up. No one's no one really cares that much in terms of like that with the Def Jam recordings official Twitter. It's not fucking popping off. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:12:02 So just at a glance, maybe a well now that we mentioned it on our pocket. Oh, yeah, they'll listen to us and be like, oh, yeah, but D-Mob. But the average level of interaction is really low. So it feels like at a glance when they make a tweet like that and it goes off and you see thousands of fucking interactions with it, it's because they're like, it's a test of waters. Are people still interested in this? What's the impressions data we'll get?
Starting point is 02:12:23 We want to know if it's worth going down this road again. But like, do they even have the access? Is this a possibility or is it just Ed Boone going? I want to make a versus Street Fighter game or I'm going to make a horror fighting game and then not do anything. Ed Boone does a lot. It's a really great term. I just heard today.
Starting point is 02:12:39 It's like, maybe this is a pulse point. Pulse point. A pulse point. You want to you want to fucking define what that means. I know what it means or your marketing leading up to a game is a straight line and nothing's happening during all these things. But each every so often, there's a point, a pulse point to let you know this is still alive. This has been hanging around forever.
Starting point is 02:13:03 Why are you looking at it? I assumed it was yours. It is. It is. Mind this little I just saw this nub and I was wondering where it came from. Oh, this came from the chair. Never mind. All right. Go on. Go ahead. Job. That's pulse point.
Starting point is 02:13:13 OK. That is every so often you feel the pulse of the game being alive. So it's like when you look up on on Google and they're like, when did this word start getting used? And it says like, oh, in 1997. Exactly. Yeah. OK. Got it. In 1997, invented this new devious sexual act. This word became popular. Oh, here's the best example.
Starting point is 02:13:32 Why so much noise made of metal wolf? Now, if that's a pulse point, that was the start of it. Yeah, it sure was. So I just feel I feel like in the fact that they edited a PS4 think picture on the top of this, you know, this notice. They edited a PS4 logo up above it just to be like, oh, current. This they hear. I feel like this is so far from actually existing.
Starting point is 02:13:56 They put out an HD version of Burnout Revenge, Burnout Paradise. Did they do one revenge? I don't remember. Anyway, they put out a phone for Burnout Paradise. And all that was was an HD upscale. I don't even know if it had online play. Did I have no idea? I don't know all this needs seriously. It has no frame rate issues. Bomb up the resolution online play.
Starting point is 02:14:19 That's that's a good deal. I don't care how much you charge. They would likely have to make a new game because a bunch of those people are out of the business. They don't even work for fucking Dev Jam no more. They're not under that. No, this is in prison. No, dude. Oh, man.
Starting point is 02:14:35 Get DMX, break out of prison. He's Cody. I mean, look, you'd basically have to have to grab it. But unless I don't think to like it's not anyone who's ever been on a part of Dev Jam, but there's other people have left. Yeah, but have whoever you need and then just make a bunch of randos. Like you already had in the game, many and DMX during the super a bunch of dogs come and attack you. And he's the mayor of New York.
Starting point is 02:14:58 Now, he barks at you. Yeah. Justin Bieber is on Dev Jam. Fucking get Justin Bieber. Yes, dude. That'd be awesome. There you go. Who I'm not joking. Whoever is legally on the death jam recordings label can be in the game. And if you don't have enough spots to fill up the rest of character slots,
Starting point is 02:15:16 just make randos. It's fine. Again, it's not. We don't care about the characters. A rapping robot from the future. Yeah, we're beastie boys on Dev Jam. No, no, no. Dig that guy up. You tip was as was not.
Starting point is 02:15:31 Oh, fuck. Nasa's new great album. You can get you can get you can get some people. Kanye was Kanye's jam. I want the fucking weird pants. Maybe we'll see them up now. But everyone's got their own. Everyone's got their own.
Starting point is 02:15:42 Um, what should we call it? Like labels to that they make for themselves. I don't care that Fred Durst isn't Tony Braxton's on the list. What would shit? Yeah, Tony Braxton. What would death brandy and Monica on Dev Jam? What would Dev Jam versus include? Who would they versus?
Starting point is 02:15:59 What do you mean? Like against another group? Another label, uh, like a Marvel death row. But the problem is every other like, like you know, it has to be a huge stable. Because if any other stable you picked, Wu Tang is IP, but like there's like two of them. I don't care. Have you seen that shit this weekend? Shaggy to Ralph.
Starting point is 02:16:18 What? Oh, man, did you have you guys seen, uh, fucking Violent J's new show? Show? No. Yeah. He put up a fucking show on Facebook called, uh, what did I see if he do this? What's it called? Fucking get snaked or some shit? Get snaked.
Starting point is 02:16:32 So what it is, is this gathering of the juggalos news? No, no, it is not. Go, go, go. Violent J bought a fursuit for his daughter and it was garbage. And it was so garbage that him and his daughter in her new expensive fursuit made like a 10 minute video saying, don't get snaked by this shitty company and talking about how garbage the other suit was and how broke Violent J was. Cause he's a terrible rapper with lines such as my mom says dad hasn't been
Starting point is 02:17:05 rich since the nineties and he'd be richer now if he could rap. Well, okay, it's the greatest video of all time. So here is daughter's a furry. Yeah, okay. That makes complete sense. She's a furry juggalo and he's a juggalo furry. OK, it's the best. Violent J is the coolest dad.
Starting point is 02:17:27 Anything again about Shaggy J or whatever. I will say that the one of the funny things that happens is if you follow Sonic Fox on Twitter, you never know what it'll happen. But you're going to see you might get blown up by his likes. And Ultra David was just like, you know, like I've managed to avoid it for this long, but this weekend it hit me. And then someone was just like, yeah, man, everyone gets opened up. Anyway, um, doggie too dope.
Starting point is 02:17:56 This this is not good. I feel like this is non like real. Like I feel like this is not actually a thing. Than it's ever been, though. It is realer than it's ever been. It's never been real. But I think they're over playing their hand in terms of how much influence they would have.
Starting point is 02:18:12 But I'm trying to they've also cropped all logos out of this, because we don't even know like who would they talk to? Are they still in talks with EA? Why would they be? I don't know. You know, like, I don't think they have the way they used to. I don't think they have the ability to get this happen. Everyone bother Def Jam. Could you imagine? I bet you. I bet you that if EA who would have the fucking rights here
Starting point is 02:18:33 would want to continue this or do anything like this or whatever, they would just go to the artists and make their own like individual hip hop collaboration thing so that they weren't limited to Def Jam so that they could get any other famous rappers. Yeah, but it's like what you're saying is like, maybe it was just the Def Jam label. Just the name is maybe what did it. We don't know. But but I just mean to say that like it would almost be smarter to not do Def Jam because you could then go outside of Def Jam to get jam versus the imperfect.
Starting point is 02:19:06 I have a question for you guys. What I'm saying is Super Robot Wars. Who makes those WWE games that are bad? 2K. 2K. I have a nightmare for you guys. Are you ready for the nightmare? Def Jam goes, OK, people like those old games. Maybe it was because of the gameplay.
Starting point is 02:19:23 Well, instead of going to EA, who makes wrestling games now? We should go and talk UK and get a wrestling engine, because that's what people liked. And then fucking Yooks makes this. And then we all have to go fucking drink ourselves to death. Well, that's how you get MK versus DC, is how do we do the exact opposite of the of the thing over there in every possible way? It should have the imperfects.
Starting point is 02:19:50 Yeah, fuck it. So, yeah, they own them. It's it's it's not a thing. And even if it were a thing, the way to make money off of this is not going about it this way. It's to go and talk to the individual artists that are not even a part of Def Jam and then get those people associated. Then that costs money, of course it does. But then it makes money, right?
Starting point is 02:20:07 The world costs money, man. Got to spend money to make money or some fucking take out Def Jam, call Vendetta, just have a bunch of made up jobbers. Infinitely, infinitely. Yeah, I have a guy that kind of looks like Snoop Dogg, Raven. Yeah, Crow. His name is Crow. Yeah, and call him Raven instead of.
Starting point is 02:20:26 But you don't need to. Yeah, you can just call him Crow and have him look slightly like Snoop Dogg. You know, just get get her or just just call it DJ Vendetta. And instead of method, man, it's how do you do it? Guy? Yeah, yeah, there you go. Just all you know, because, you know, you could absolutely just really man. Look, you know why flex isn't called flex?
Starting point is 02:20:44 Why it's called fighting X layer? Why? Because the fighting layer is still owned by as an Amco, I think. Oh, yeah. So they had to put EX in between the words. Jesus. Yeah. So straight up, just call it Vendetta or yeah, DJ Vendetta. DJ Vendetta is a pretty solid DJ name in general. Have a guy named have a guy named BMX and he's the bike master.
Starting point is 02:21:09 Yeah, you dream. And he makes little rain noises instead of parking or just create a new main character named Jeff Damm. Jeff Damm's Vendetta, that's the best one. Done and done. Oh, fuck. My BMX is going to give it to you. Legally distinct.
Starting point is 02:21:37 This is the best type. I love that kind of distinction. So that non fucking news aside. Yeah, talked about a whole bunch, though. Yeah, because those games are great. That's the way news gets talked about on this show. Isn't whether or not it's newsworthy. It's whether or not we like the things in the article.
Starting point is 02:21:57 Netflix is fucking bringing back Ultraman. And a gritsco. Yeah, more gritsco. That's cool. I started that. I like that. That's good. There's something announced.
Starting point is 02:22:09 That's Ken Ganeshura is also a Netflix Originals. That's coming and that's cool. With gladiators. More Castlevania is on its way. But Ultraman, Netflix original. That's a really cool looking. That's a fucking Ultraman right there. So this is just an anime that's like in Japan
Starting point is 02:22:29 and they're just getting the rights to it, I believe, to premiere it on Netflix. Because I've seen this design before like a year ago and I got really hyped back then. Is this the same one that had a little short teaser that had like these really cool manga panels for it? I don't remember. I don't remember.
Starting point is 02:22:46 There was a really, really fucking nicely animated one. And I saw it like a year ago as well. And I want to say it was not the same design, but maybe it was. It looked like there was almost like manga panels. Either way, this looks cooler fucking than anything. And all of like, you know, recently, a lot of their Netflix's acquires,
Starting point is 02:23:08 big acquires of their anime has been like, anime is just a tab on Netflix now. Because they got a lot of shit. It really started with Nights at Sundonia, it seemed. Yeah, well, I mean, because it's it's it like little legit. It's not like Crunchyroll is all fucking anime, but like the people are just like casually browsing past it and watching shit.
Starting point is 02:23:28 I mean, it's like then there's the Godzilla anime movies. Oh, that one comes out on Wednesday soon. We'll have old people watching anime. Yeah. OK, this is this is the one based on a manga based on a manga. Yes. Yes. Yes. OK. Because there was the 2019 PV that did come out. And a great Zuko has like multiple like seasons or whatever in Japan.
Starting point is 02:23:52 This is like that was just the first localized bunch of episodes, I think it stopped, right? I got Zuko, you can watch them both. Well, like it's first season's done and up, you're right. So I mean, stuff is pretty solid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's from the new manga. Man, what a fucking strong design.
Starting point is 02:24:13 Ultraman is a cool guy. What a fucking strong design. Where's Ultraman fit on the timeline of these types of heroes? First. Is he number one? He eats going way back. He predates Spider-Man. Like, look at this fucking design, my dudes. Just type.
Starting point is 02:24:29 If you do a search for Ultraman new manga and just check out what they're doing with it. It is so fucking strong. You got yourself a warframe right there. He doesn't have an unexplained biological component to the to the design. They are like a big like vein. 1966 was the first episode of Ultraman.
Starting point is 02:24:51 So, um, yeah, I mean, wait, is you weren't a cloak in that one? Yeah, why wouldn't he? That was he wearing? Is he wearing? Oh, that's that's just a new. So too cool. No, there's there's a there's a I can't find it now, but there's a basically there was a teaser video showing off
Starting point is 02:25:12 like someone did a basically a cinematic graphic novel with panels of the manga and like just cutting to some of these design shots and whatnot. And it's fucking cool. Like, I doubt I'm going to find it on a whim, but man, it looks like sword in some pictures. So like, you know, they're doing the right thing. Netflix is Netflix's.
Starting point is 02:25:31 No, yeah, maybe that's it. I don't know. Looks like those are doing about the Netflix thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's just a little trailer. All right. Just looking at the picture in slow motion. I need another fucking chair so bad.
Starting point is 02:25:44 This thing's crawling up my ass. OK, got to get it out of there. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's squeaking as it gets in there. So I get a racing. It hurts. Um, can't get out of there. So yeah, racing around at the speed of sound.
Starting point is 02:25:59 I've been kind of I've been kind of like ignoring it. But you know, slow caliber has been announcing its characters and tell him is back. And you know what? Tell him is very popular. So it makes sense that she's back. Tom's great. So she's got a soul caliber one character is just kind of just
Starting point is 02:26:13 like the last couple of trailers, but it's all just it's all just. Hey, look, it's that's the old thing. You know, there's been no, like, new announced characters since girls man. Kind of. Well, Geralt and grow. Geralt, yeah. Counts, I forgot.
Starting point is 02:26:32 Yes, Geralt. Excuse me. I've never heard it said in an official really. So I've never. Well, I mean, besides you saying it or I'm official. Yeah. Just the Witcher. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:26:44 I can get out of the problem. That's one witchy boy, the Witcher. So say Geralt. Yeah, Geralt. OK, I'll try to remember that. It's one of those things that makes my eye twitch. Like when people call Lara Croft, Laura, yeah. And I'm OK.
Starting point is 02:27:01 But it's outrageous. But if someone that never played the game said it, I'd be like, yeah, well, fair enough. Well, with Lara Croft, it's kind of bizarre. So what's characters like 30 years old? What's the excuse for Mario? That's wrong. And it makes everyone's eye twitch.
Starting point is 02:27:20 So you see how that works, then, right? I do see how it works. That's all I ask. Then that's so your your request has been noted. Correct. Whoa. Did we just win an iPhone? We won an iPhone.
Starting point is 02:27:32 This is having more and more recently. Yeah, we're going to have to do something about that. So, yeah, poison. Sorry, browser poison. Oh, OK. I thought you had poison on the dock. I'm like, fantastic. Always down.
Starting point is 02:27:47 But alongside that stuff came the really, really rad. Arby's. What is Arby's? Arby's Twitter has achieved its peak. And there's no going down from here. This is this is the top. It has a two scale full nightmare from Soul Caliber. Fucking Arby's box statue. It's absurd.
Starting point is 02:28:10 And this was that. And it's really nice expo. And it's like sword hilt is out of control. So here's the thing, right? Clearly, Arby's got this whole game on lock going because they hired a huge fucking weeb to run their Twitter. That's correct.
Starting point is 02:28:25 Sonic did the same thing and any other and Wendy's as well, right? Any time you're getting like some like hip youth that understand social media to run your Twitter, you're going to get this stuff. But here, Arby's doesn't just have that. They've got like go to the next level because they've got some kind of fucking box art God
Starting point is 02:28:43 that knows how to just sculpt out shit out of nothing out of ketchup packets and here. How do you make the eye? What is that? It's just the yellow parts of the set of the box. That's crazy. The belt. Yeah, look, look. And they have all the burger boxes on the burger boxes.
Starting point is 02:28:59 And then on the burger boxes, you can draw all your anime stuff. And you can get an Arby sponsorship in in the Soul Calibur and get this as a costume. I would love this as a costume costume, actually. And ironically, like full on Arby's logo on the character select screen. Fuck it. I was I was told all the way in.
Starting point is 02:29:17 I was told why Arby's is named Arby's by somebody. And I don't know if they're making fun of me. Is it is that Arby stands for roast beefs because that's what they sell. I believe that while their logo right now is we have the meats. So slogan slogan. Yes, sir. I don't know if they're making fun of if it's actually because it's of Arby.
Starting point is 02:29:36 Yeah, I believe that makes sense. So do you prefer things like this? And like, let's say let's say this post this nightmare thing is a success because it's cool, right? But when other companies do this type of stuff, like got to reach out to the kids and they do cringe things. You just I prefer that. I prefer the. Do you prefer you prefer that to when companies are just like when they nail it.
Starting point is 02:29:54 Millennials and fuck them and we don't care. No, I love that too. I I love all of it. I love like like Dave Lang said, companies dunking on each other is my shit. Yeah, I like all of it. But I want this new world of huge ass weebs becoming CEO. My favorite is I prefer that. My favorite is like luxury companies for things that don't matter.
Starting point is 02:30:17 Going millennials are buying less diamonds. What's wrong? Sure, that's just like, yeah, they're fucking broke. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, or are like old family style restaurants are dying off. Like because I like to eat at home. No, it's going to Applebee's and East Side Mario's. That's the thing, like Arby's. I just put together in that group of like Applebee's.
Starting point is 02:30:39 But I guess they're like, fucking no, let's embrace the anti. I mean, for me, it goes into the category of shit that doesn't matter because we don't have them. So I don't care. I've never been to an Arby's in my life. Yeah. So I could eat at Arby's. Oh, she is hungry. The most I know about Arby's prior to their Twitter going full weeb is John Stuart making fun of them on the Daily Show all the time.
Starting point is 02:31:01 Right. Like near vomiting and all that. So it's like, I have no horse in this race, but cool weeb shit. That's kind of your horse is this dope. So yeah, wow, at this, I guess. Keep being funny, American food brand that we don't care about or have any interest in. That's all that's all Arby's is to me. These pictures, shit, literally.
Starting point is 02:31:25 Yeah, 100 percent. But I'm not going to lie. If I'm at a convention and I see an Arby's nearby, I'm like, maybe I'll go. I don't know. I feel like I'm well now. Now that when I hear these names, yeah, when I hear these names of places that are like people always talk about, I'm like, well, I got to find out what the big deal is. Is Arby's that place with that nefarious sounding horsey sauce?
Starting point is 02:31:47 I don't know. Horsey sauce. Horsey sauce is a thing I heard at one time. Is that like horseradish sauce? Apparently, it's not. Is it Worcestershire sauce? Or I don't know, just to give us more information. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what horsesauce is.
Starting point is 02:32:00 I'm going to look up horsey sauce. Yes, everyone says yes. But I don't know what. Hopefully I don't get great creepy points. Why is it called horsey? Arby's horsey sauce, secret recipe. It is then like I don't understand. It's vinegar, sugar, salt, mayonnaise,
Starting point is 02:32:20 and tablespoons of horseradish. Mayo based. Oh, it's horseradish sauce. Yeah, it's horseradish mayo, fine. It's just their own type. OK, so they just cut out the word ridish, whatever. That's fine. I don't know, the word horsey sauce sounds nefarious.
Starting point is 02:32:36 Horse radish sauce is pretty strong, but it's pretty good. So I get it, you know. It's like that weird fucking photo that was going around on the weekend of that girl getting her ass licked by that horse going city folk just don't understand. What the fuck are you talking about? Oh, you didn't see that?
Starting point is 02:32:51 It's some fucking ad with the girl and jeans getting her butt licked by a horse. OK, that sounded way weirder until you specified that. Yeah, that's where it sounds weird. No, this is a real photo of a real ad, and it was blowing up because we were like, oh. Dude, context. I will show this to you.
Starting point is 02:33:10 I will find it in my shitpost diary. Yeah, you do that. In the meantime, I'll talk about card saga wars. Shit. Yeah, man. Card saga wars. So Danny, Oliver, Oliver, I wanted to say Olivier. Are you OK?
Starting point is 02:33:25 For whatever reason. Yeah, he made a couple of those. Yeah, yeah, he made a cool avatar for me like a year or two ago. And I was like, man, this guy's a really good sprite artist. And all of a sudden, he's like, I made the hypest game that shits all over Namco, cross Capcom, cross whatever. So this has been in the works for years, apparently, card saga wars, and it's a Mugen game, essentially.
Starting point is 02:33:47 And the sprite fucking quality is impeccable out of this world. It's impeccable. It's like, like I was going to say on par with Namco, it's better. Yeah, it's better than that. And they're just he's just putting everybody in it. Yeah, like Master Chief is in there. Everyone, everyone.
Starting point is 02:34:08 And it came out finally, I think, last week because it's been in the works for a very long time. Yeah, and now it's got like a couple of like a bunch of characters and they're like, well, we're going to leave it like this for now. And then maybe we'll come back and do some more stuff for sure. So you got Samus and Master Chief and Cloud and Cosmos. We should take a look at this and get it running. I'm absolutely.
Starting point is 02:34:30 It's 100 percent. Yeah, for sure. And Chrono has just been at it. Stage, too. This is, yeah, the Zomboer fight on the bridge. Yeah, right. No, and here's the thing, too, is that I've seen countless amounts of characters like this
Starting point is 02:34:47 that are just the Chrono trigger sprites blown up. But the fact that this is like original new sprites that this guy is making and they're like really nicely animated as well is like the most respect. So yeah, it's a Mugen thing, but we're going to. And like the stages are all like, yeah, pixel art stages of the games they're coming for. Yeah, that's just like the Halo stage.
Starting point is 02:35:08 All right, get your horse porn out of it. That is not horse porn. That's some weird head for farmers only dot com. Ivy's in it, Link's in it. It's just it's like this is one of those things where yeah, I wouldn't bat an eye twice if it were just another one of these many cute Mugen games, but the the quality of the original art in this is absolutely noteworthy.
Starting point is 02:35:30 It also helps that it's picking solid characters like some are out of the field. It's like, well, Ivy, yes, sure, I guess. But I really mean it. When I say there's a dime a dozen like popular character crossover Mugen fighting games like that just pick the all stars like it's not a thing, you know, but this fucking sprite quality is absolutely a thing
Starting point is 02:35:52 and the backgrounds and all of it. So yeah, man, this is this is worth your attention. It's called card saga wars. And I think Max took a look at it not too long ago, actually. I'm not sure. Maybe that's Valkyrie profile right there. Right. Yeah. That's what's her name? Yeah, it's the character Valkyrie profile. Valkyrie.
Starting point is 02:36:12 It shall be engraved upon your soul. Nibelung, Velesti, all that shit. And I don't know nothing. I'll do that. It's like it does some that that game. So I know the city folks just don't get it. It's got some cool barks. But yeah, shout out to Danny Oliver.
Starting point is 02:36:24 Good shit. Oh, yeah. I don't have no explanation. I mean, it's D and I. D and a D and I is opposed to N and Y. Right. I knew that's fucking me about. Yeah, man. But ma'am, but ma'am, but bang, but bang.
Starting point is 02:36:39 And last but not least, definitely not least, unless it is. Sometimes it is. This is this is cool. We'll see where this goes. I'm cautiously. Not even cautious. I'm cautiously cautious.
Starting point is 02:36:55 Oh, shit. Excuse me. But hey, legendary decides that Gundam time is now. What? Which Gundam? They're like 3,500 Gundam. Guess what? Gundam. It just is generalized. We're just a Joe Blow that we were making a Gundam movie is happening live live action.
Starting point is 02:37:11 Gundam movie in the works from Legendary. Oh, that this film site has grabbed a picture of Gundam wing because that's what you're going to get. When you put Gundam into Google, but I mean, boy, this could be very poor or decent. So for those that don't remember, legendary puts out like the Pacific Rim and the King Kong stuff. And I mean, they did the Dark Knight trilogy.
Starting point is 02:37:36 They're all over the. I would very much like this to not be in Universal Century. Like be its own thing, please. Ironblooded orphans, please. You know, I mean, we can I can I don't care. Like whatever, like it can be either or there's a lot of people that are really sick of seeing one year war stories because like there's so many side stories of it.
Starting point is 02:37:55 Sure. But I could I wouldn't be surprised if this just was like, no, we're doing our own thing. We're not attached to anything in the past and fuck you. Maybe they'll just do seventy nine. Maybe they don't know who knows the quote says the original Gundam series is set in the Universal Century in error in which the humanities growing population has let people to emigrate to space colonies.
Starting point is 02:38:14 Eventually, the people living in the colonies seek autonomy, which and launch a war of independence against the people living on earth because they're bastards through the tragedies and discord arising from this human conflict, not only the maturation of the main character, but also the intention of the enemies and the surrounding people are sensitively depicted the battles and the story which in which characters pilot robots known as mobile suits
Starting point is 02:38:32 are wildly popular. This is basically telling you what Gundam is. Now, the first thing I thought when I heard this news was that this is exactly Nintendo getting their taste off of Wreck-It Ralph and deciding to go further from there or Sonic and such. I felt that ready player one gave Gundam its taste, right? Like and they know they mentioned at the bottom that like, oh, we people audiences recently got a look at it.
Starting point is 02:38:56 And it's kind of like, yeah, that's it's the same little testing the waters feel I did either of you see it in theaters. I didn't because out of the whole movie easily the biggest pot. So oh, it's a Gundam. Yeah, even even I, despite all of my misgivings at the time, kind of marked out like, oh, I love Gundam. So that's exactly it, right? I feel like you get that little, oh, a Western movie decides to
Starting point is 02:39:17 like play with this a little bit or whatever audiences get a little it's just like Def Jam. It's just like the the other shit. It's like you get a little test, right? You go, oh, people are a little bit hype for this thing. Maybe they want to see a little more. Okay, you know, and then they and then then this news kind of rolls out.
Starting point is 02:39:33 I don't know. I hope for good things. I want a one to one recreation of the original with Amaro and Char and I want them to be just as stupid and lame as they were in that show. I thought I thought legendary God's Godzilla was a fun movie and then Shin Godzilla came out and fucking that was the end of that.
Starting point is 02:39:52 They're going to show the new Godzilla movie, which at San Diego Comic-Con, so they're going to show something. I'm really looking forward to that because, you know, I think the the second one they're gearing it up to be way more monster fighting, way more silly and like what you kind of expect. You think he's going to do that flying drop kick? Yes. Thank you.
Starting point is 02:40:13 It's going to do the dance. Yeah, man. This can be. Yeah, well, that is worse. This can be a brand new. This can be a brand new thing, but I wouldn't be surprised if they just did their own 79 Gundam Seed adaptation. I said it to hurt you.
Starting point is 02:40:29 Hey, man. Thomas Thomas already did. Imagine fucking the fucking mom on Twitter with that. The key to the cure a screed crying scene live action. That was that was great. Get fucking hot kid or whatever the new get Tom Holland in fucking the fucking window and go. Here he did it.
Starting point is 02:40:50 Oh, he did it. That's literally what the tweet is like serious. Yeah, I invented the thing that already you invented a thing that now I look silly. Like it like a mom on Twitter. Thomas Tron Trongasm fucking went and filmed himself in Cura cosplay doing the full no doing the full bit and it was amazing and he's crying. It's it's he did it. So yeah, it's the worst.
Starting point is 02:41:28 It's the worst ever. Um, I see a trailer here for Jenro, the Wolf Brigade live action. And what did you not see this? I did not see this. Guess what? We're doing a live action. Jenro. Yeah, it looks dope. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 02:41:44 I miss this. Is this. Wait, is this Korea? This is Korean. This is definitely a Korean movie. Scroll down a bit. We see the description. Well, I mean, I know this sounds Korean and that's Korean text.
Starting point is 02:41:59 But is this is like it's going to be the dub movie. A J-Woo. This is a Korean movie. That's so weird. How weird? I guess it just got the license. Yeah, interesting. OK, so there's a Korean live action.
Starting point is 02:42:13 Jenro of 2018. Wolf Brigade is a strong name. Just put the fucking helmet on in the trailer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just do the hell gas thing that they stole from you. Why did they fucking steal that? Everyone steal it. Don't put the helmet on.
Starting point is 02:42:29 Then it's like when people are like, why is your venom in the venom teaser? Where's Metroid? And why can't Metroid crawl? Why can't Jenro helmet? Yeah. Oh, I bet the pudding on the helmet's going to be the last thing that they do in this trailer.
Starting point is 02:42:45 This is a suspicion. This is an easy-ass movie to adapt because it's a very short story. And it lends itself well to a movie. It doesn't do anything that live action can't do. They put the helmet on. They shot to kill everyone happy now. It doesn't do anything live action can't do.
Starting point is 02:43:01 So like, yeah, this doesn't make sense. Oh, yeah, that's fine. That's a cool evil man with a gun. That's the big red eye. Yeah, there you go. Oh, they know. They know. It's the most iconic part of the fucking game.
Starting point is 02:43:18 Every game rips it off. Soldiers with big red eyes. Like, what are you going to watch? Why would you make your soldiers look this evil? I have never, I didn't know that. I didn't hear about this at all. And I guess perhaps because it's a Korean movie, I didn't catch it, but that's cool.
Starting point is 02:43:33 Okay. Shame that we're probably going to catch like maybe five years from now, you're going to be like, Jenro's getting adapted. And it's like, it already did. No, but it's getting adapted for us, though. But that was fine. Oh, no, but we didn't.
Starting point is 02:43:46 Okay, that's like all those Russian death note movies they made. Yeah, they did make those. You can just put subtitles on it. It's still a good movie. It's still a good movie. You can just, you just read a little bit. People don't like to read.
Starting point is 02:44:00 It's not that big a deal. People hate it. It's shocking to me how often I encounter people that you talk to them like, oh, I don't watch this. I didn't try to, I didn't pay to see a movie to read. Yeah. I was like, hey, you know what's great? Old boy, cool.
Starting point is 02:44:18 Why don't we, like, can we bring that out here? Why don't we have the best director ever to direct it? Well, we don't have a good Spike Lee. We already have an amazing movie. It's done. And it's been subtitled. All you have to do is press the play button. Nah.
Starting point is 02:44:33 Nah, Spike Lee though. I hate that. Like really? I just like this concept. But this is every fucking adaptation that gets done. But that's what Scorsese did with Infernal Affair. OK, that one is. That's different because I like it.
Starting point is 02:44:50 No, it's not. It's totally not different at all. It's not different at all. It's the exact same thing. It's the exception that proves the rule. It's a good movie. OK. But I absolutely love Infernal Affairs.
Starting point is 02:45:01 So it's only when it's good then. No, I would have preferred a world where Infernal Affairs just came out here instead. OK. If we got a big release theatrically of Infernal Affairs instead of The Departed, I wouldn't mind that. Yeah, the Wahlberg's not in Infernal Affairs. Yeah, but you know what?
Starting point is 02:45:17 There's three movies there instead of one. Yeah. And The Departed combined them to a degree. Is The Departed like four hours long? But the three movies are worth your time. Like the actual, the arc of the characters over the course of all three is super worth it as a trilogy. So I don't know, man.
Starting point is 02:45:37 I don't like it's a good. The results were good. Oh, thankfully. That's what I mean is like I'm fine with anything as long as the results are good or different. Like there's let the right one in. Then there's the English let me in. They're both quite good, but the English one
Starting point is 02:45:54 is so similar and might as well not exist. But here's that's always the weirdest one. Yeah, but here's the thing, right? Are there any other markets that go the other way around where like a Western movie comes out and then they they have to do their own country version? Yeah, India. Yeah, all the time.
Starting point is 02:46:13 Turkey. Yeah. OK, OK, OK, OK, like the ridiculous fucking Turkish Spider-Man, Turkish Star Wars and shit. What's what's are there any good movies? I don't know. Are there any good movies or good good things where they go and they just remit like because that's
Starting point is 02:46:30 what I'm saying is like when a good movie comes out to me, it's like, yeah, that's a movie. It's right. I but North America just because of the English problem. I have to look it up. Japan has made full on Japanese remakes of American movies. OK, don't remember the OK. I haven't heard of any.
Starting point is 02:46:47 There's a couple because I always because I like because I haven't heard any much more rare than what we're saying. Yeah, because I haven't heard any. I feel like only America does that like we are the only ones that go like it doesn't count if it didn't come out here. Shot up there is a Russian always sunny in Philadelphia. And because because of that, I'm like, why can't we just like the why you don't know about us because you don't live in that country.
Starting point is 02:47:10 So you always hear about the ones that get adapted here. But if you don't live in like Russia or whatever, you're never going to hear about it. You know what I mean? I get that. I do. I do. But like, I mean, I know we're a little close to the internet to see where we are and we're more and exactly. We're more in touch with like that morning shit. Like the Death Note movies that came out before fucking
Starting point is 02:47:29 Death Note would have been better for Netflix than the fucking Death Note movie. It would have cost. Shut up. There is a Russian version of it's always sunny in Philadelphia. Wait, you didn't believe your own thing. No, it's always sunny in Petersburg. It's always sunny in Moscow. And the bar is instead of being called Patty's Pub. It's called the Philadelphia. That's actually pretty. Is this a real TV show?
Starting point is 02:47:51 All the characters are here. Max thick, Borzenko, Sergei Kovalev, Alan Kovalev and Roman Markov. Watch this. Is this a real TV show? Or is it like a parody thing? Girl who with whom love Max. Here is the poster for it's always sunny in Moscow. That I guess that's definitive. Wow, it's real. Wow. OK. So that answers that shit. OK.
Starting point is 02:48:18 Are there are there are other countries that make parks and rec? Is there a 30 Rock Bollywood? I don't know. Anyway. Yeah, this is obviously the like the rare exceptions, but you understand my point, I think. Yeah, I assume that makes sense. Yes. OK. Russians don't like the English version of always sunny. They need to have no good, good media slash good movies,
Starting point is 02:48:43 specifically movies, because many anime comes out here and it's fine. Like that's the thing, right? TV like like with anime, we just import it and like Netflix puts it out. And it's there. It's not like we have to make our own, you know, redo of the thing with TV shows. Sometimes it's it's it's it's, you know, tearing there. But like, I know that like who wants to be a millionaire? Yeah, God export. That's international all over.
Starting point is 02:49:08 The X Factor got exported. Game shows get exported all the time. Oh, because they're great. Right. Like that shit who like insert country has talent. It's it's a shame. Stock and block and never came out here. But but yeah, man, I just I just like it's a bummer that like good movies that are not English get treated like they don't exist simply because they're
Starting point is 02:49:28 not English. Anyway, well, in the average moviegoer doesn't want to read. Readings for dorks. I mean, look at you. You're reading stuff right now. Look at your big door. About to read some emails. Yeah, there's there's like a bunch like Tom Cruise and and and what's her face.
Starting point is 02:49:46 We're in a movie called Night and Day. How Bollywood remade it in a movie called Bang Bang. I should mention Unforgiven, the Clint Eastwood one. And then they made a Japanese version. I should mention, Willie, don't even like it being in English isn't enough. Oftentimes, it has to be in your particular regions, English, because that British version, I can't understand that shit. Just take that British movie and make a North American version
Starting point is 02:50:11 because the raid just fucking sucked and everyone hated it. Yeah, I did. It's don't you remember walking out of the theater saying that fucking sucked? I had to read. Geez, I hate people. I fucking hate people, dude. Let's take some of those. All right.
Starting point is 02:50:27 If you want to send an email about one of the examples that we failed to think up of in this entire segment, if you'd like to remake that email in another language, then we won't be able to read it. But hopefully English or my local dialect or the way we could send it to superbestfriendcast at gmail.com. That's super best friend cast at gmail.com. And you might sound something like this. Will he reading this email?
Starting point is 02:50:51 I mean, shit. So I. Psycho six says I recently reached the Chimera arc of Hunter X. Hunter, I heard that's the really bad one for losers. Excuse me, Hunter Hunter, even though it's not the end of the anime series, I felt like a damn good ending. And my friend says it all goes downhill from there. So I decided to stop watching that would be the ending for me. Have you ever had a series of Kenshin episode 134 of narrative season one
Starting point is 02:51:20 of Westworld now done, done. We got one. You should have stopped watching Hunter Hunter in episode one because that's just for babies. That email had a cut off point. Yeah, people would say sell saga should have ended after. Oh, yeah, you mean like Toriyama? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:51:39 You know, there's tons of like fun stuff to happen ever. But I think, yeah, no, it's it's there's worse out there. I have one. There's way, there's way. I have a legit serious answer at season seven of Stargate SG one in which it's season finale is literally titled Threads in which they tie up every loose end ever. And then everyone involved in the show was like, we're glad we finished the show and it's great.
Starting point is 02:52:03 And then the studios or the the network said two more seasons, fuckers. And they went, well, we don't we literally think it's done. And went two more seasons, make a new stupid alien to fight. So don't watch those last two seasons. They're quite bad. The the the reason why I like why I like the boo saga, though, is because one, it brings us Vidal to it brings us the great say a man. Three, it brings in Vigito.
Starting point is 02:52:26 Yeah, right. And four, it brings us boo as a fun villain. That's just it. Yeah, yeah. You know, if sell is if sell is ego, right? Like boo is just the opposite of that. It's just raw fucking emotions. And it's it's it's a cool antithesis to perfect cells perfection.
Starting point is 02:52:47 You know. But yes, generally, I don't I don't disagree. But there's some stuff that came out. Hey, beautiful boys. Jordan says, can you have your opinions on series? Can you give your opinions on series fatigue? I think we have just now about Assassin's Creed a whole bunch. I'm very upset about the fact that AC is going yearly.
Starting point is 02:53:06 And yeah, after they fucking said that they weren't. I'm wondering if there's a game series that you love that just wouldn't go away. Back in the day, that guitar hero go away. Back in the day, the rhythm games hit their saturation. I'll get with that. And then they kept going. Yeah. And they did so because Bobby Coddick admitted that he knew it was dimensioning returns,
Starting point is 02:53:30 but the amount of money they paid for the license meant they were going to burn people out on it. So with the life with the life that's left in a thing, it's a really fucking shitty, evil way to do business. But it makes you a ton of money as you go. I'm going to keep squeezing blood from the stone until the stone stone is pulverized because I've paid for the stone. And that's what I'm going to do.
Starting point is 02:53:47 I'm going to say sports. I'm going to say Star Wars is hitting that point because in general, because they over every year, they overplayed their hand, thinking that people wanted a solo movie. But more importantly, it's six years in a row of Star Wars movies. It's going to be exhausting for people. Seriously, those sports in general. I remember the first couple of Need for Speed games,
Starting point is 02:54:10 like Hot Pursuit and stuff on the PlayStation one. The new ones. No, he's talking about Hot Pursuit is three. Yeah. OK, because there's an original Hot Pursuit. No, I know. That's why I'm asking, saying the new ones are the old ones. And then there was Need for Speed had like then it got really dumb. And there was Need for Speed four, which was good. Yeah. And then there was Need for Speed five.
Starting point is 02:54:29 Yep. High stakes. And then they just decided to call shit Hot Pursuit again. Five was the Porsche one. And that was the moment, the one where they only got the rights to Porsche. Then it went to Need for Speed underground. Then it went to the ones where you got out of your car. And then it was so and then they replaced burnout with Need for Speed, which is always a bad deal.
Starting point is 02:54:48 Yeah, very much. Yeah. So there's other examples of serious fatigue for you there, Jordan. Let's take one over here from. Rez. That's a good name. They're super Detroit become human smash cast or any game mechanics or moments that offer very simple or shallow gameplay, yet the music and presentation of what's happening make it an incredibly hype moment for you.
Starting point is 02:55:13 For me, the two go tos are ace attorneys, revisualizations, aka the thought routes or logic dives that were introduced in dual destinies and spirit of justice and Danganronpa V3 scrum battles. On the surface, they're nothing more than a pretty choice, selects that are almost impossible to lose. However, the build up to them and the tracks they have during the payoff are huge, only despite only requiring a simple player interaction. Absolutely, I was going to say, like I kind of like glanced over it.
Starting point is 02:55:41 So I didn't see the second answer there. But Danganronpa as an entire franchise is that you're having debates with people and all you're doing is choosing the right thing to say at the right time. But the presentation of how you say what you say is fucking incredible. That nothing's ever going to be ace attorney one of picking the right piece of evidence, Phoenix slapping his hand down on the table, pointing and cornered starts to play. OK, it's the most it's the most exciting very.
Starting point is 02:56:09 But I have the direct counter of that is the version of that in in Danganronpa. When you piece together every single bit, the last thing you do is after you do your logic dive and such, you create the comic strip of like, this is play by play what happened and you accuse the person. And like the moment you're piecing it all together, you finally conclude it. The best fucking theme climax return starts playing and it builds up as you not only point out who did it, but you fucking beat them to death with the truth in a way. And like, it's just a very satisfying thing to be like, oh, you asshole.
Starting point is 02:56:45 You thought you'd get away with it. Now take this, take this, or essentially describing the same thing. It's the same thing. Two different styles. But it's a prolonged like, oh, you're going to fucking you're going to take it. Well, because because we're describing Danganronpa as like picking up a bat and going to beat down somebody with the truth, whereas in Ace Attorney, it's a bullet. Actually, it's it's it's it. OK, sure. The truth bullet.
Starting point is 02:57:06 That's that's the in Ace Attorney. It's a duel. It's a lot of back and forth. I want to say I want to say the only other example I can think of that's like a completely mundane act of activity that ends up being dramatic. And because of the presentation is the microwave hallway in Metal Gear Solid 4. You're holding forward. You're mashing buttons. Similar to this, but it's really dramatic.
Starting point is 02:57:31 I talked about the game before, but amazing. Spider-Man 2, there's these moments in during cutscenes where something crashes through the wall, a shot rings out, something breaks. And then he goes, Spidersons tingling danger, but where? And then it stops and the game becomes a diorama where you have to move the camera around and find where the danger is coming from. And once you've located it, you just press Y. I was going to say, I was going to say that God of War
Starting point is 02:57:55 in the dust, in the darkness, where you're walking in a circle would be a nice like way to do that, Spidersons kind of thing. But yeah, that's a really cool one. Did you didn't play Tetris Effect, did you? I know I did. There's because the VR games are always by appointment. OK, cool. Yeah. And plus, there's weirdos that are sweating in them.
Starting point is 02:58:17 I want to give a big shout out to the final button prompt and wonderful one on one. Yes. Yeah. The music. That's all presentation. You know what that is? It's it's it's the music and all that stuff, but it's the name of the prompt. Yeah, that's all it is. I would like to follow that trend and do the exact same for Kirby Star Allies. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:58:38 The final button prompt in Kirby Star Allies is very strong as well. And Planet Robobot. Jake says, Pat, you probably have answered this before, but already two remakes coming out soon. That's right. I will answer all of these questions. I've been looking for it since I grew up on remake on the GameCube, but there's so many already twos out there. I don't know which one to play.
Starting point is 02:58:58 So there's a PS one, the famous N64 port, the PS two version, the PC version, the Dreamcast, a GameCube version and even the goddamn game.com. I think the GameCube version is I so Max schooled me on this when I went and took a look at running it on a stream a little while back. So the PS one version has two versions, the regular version and the DualShock version. The only difference is the DualShock version has DualShock controls. It has a few spelling errors corrected and like the Magnum parts,
Starting point is 02:59:27 I believe, becomes the Magnum parts. And it also has the battle mode, which is pretty cool, but not important. The N64 version, I don't remember, has the battle mode. What it does have is a higher resolution. No, does it? It has a higher resolution on characters, on characters and in game. It looks a little cleaner because of the anti-aliasing. And it's got some extra files.
Starting point is 02:59:48 It has a bunch of extra files, none of which are canon now. They had they had 64 extra files. It also has the worst cut scenes ever. They look so bad because of the compression on the on the cart. I would never recommend the N64 version. Then you have the GameCube version, which is the version that I played because you can fuck around with it texture wise and dolphin. That runs at 360 P.
Starting point is 03:00:13 And so the PS one's for 240 P and is general. It runs the best like frame rate wise. It's very solid. And if you put the texture pack in dolphin and kick up the resolution, it's the easiest one to get looking the nicest. Then you have the Dreamcast version, which has all the stuff mentioned prior, except for the the files and 64 version that never came back. The battle mode, all that shit.
Starting point is 03:00:35 That runs at 480 P, which if you're going to run a version natively or on a real system, that is the one to go for for sure. Then there's the PC version, which I don't know when it fucking came out. And you can technically make it look the best, I think. But I don't think there's a legal way to acquire it anymore. And even beyond that, it's quite rare. And then I am unfamiliar with the game.com version. So if you're going to play that game for the first time,
Starting point is 03:01:01 if you're going to play that game for the first time, go and game.com. Got it. No, go get the go get Dolphin, get the latest stable release of Dolphin. Go get a version of that game for the GameCube and run, install a texture pack and load the textures with it. You can look at my tutorial how to do that. And if you can't find the textures actually in part one of my stream footage, like part one of this is all 2D and it's like, just play this play this video. No, but over at my archive channel for my streams, Pat Stares at
Starting point is 03:01:36 in part one of the footage for Resident Evil 2, I have the link to the fucking zip file with all the goddamn textures in it in the description. So they could be playing this. We're looking at the game.com. I've never seen this. This is fascinating to me. This is have you ever seen the Game Boy Color?
Starting point is 03:01:53 I have Resident Evil. Yeah, it never came out. No, build that came out wasn't that that was fucking impressive. It's insanely impressive. Yeah. OK, we got one coming in from play the GameCube version on Dolphin. So what Max did, it's what he convinced me to do, and he was super right to do it.
Starting point is 03:02:11 Hey, guys, Matt, Matt, my name. Long time listener, but you're so many. I want to know what Sony attempting to create a standalone cinematic universe based on the Spider-Man property. But no, Spider-Man. That's devoid of the web slinger himself. It's got me thinking about how many of his road gallery are kind of just lame and not that cool at all.
Starting point is 03:02:33 I've come to the conclusion that most of his enemies when you take Spider-Man out of the equation are pretty garbage. I wouldn't say most, but there's a lot of jobbers in there. Like there's more jobbers and good guys, like awesome villains and side characters. But those awesome villains and side characters are really awesome. Yeah. Have you have you ever felt that any other situation where a character loses its cool or what's compelling about them the moment you take them out of their context?
Starting point is 03:03:04 I think the Punisher is way lame or if you put him in the Marvel universe. Yeah, when he exists in a realistic world where it's crime is the number one threat to the world, he's a lot cooler. He's a lot cooler. So there's that Christ. I'm trying to think of like not the main character, but like a thing where the main character is cool, but everyone else is garbage. You know, I'm having I can't.
Starting point is 03:03:27 I don't know, like something where like every supporting cast is pointless. But it's like, yeah, that's a pretty I mean, Spider-Man's a pretty big one where it's like, yeah, dude. Like, but I've got to love them, even though like like stuff like like Rino's an idiot, but Rino's a cool idiot and Scorpion's an idiot. He's a cool idiot and a lot of shit. He could be going up against this villain, that hero, that hero, known about it and I on ironically love shocker.
Starting point is 03:03:51 OK, so that's what I was going to wait. I was waiting to see who you guys are going to get there. Shocker is the fucking zeus tier, but I love him. Yeah, the thing because I because Electro was so much more powerful, but I hated Electro always. Oh, yeah. Never liked him. But here's the thing. Venom is so intrinsically linked to Spider-Man that I kind of feel
Starting point is 03:04:12 Venom's Lamer when he's Spider-Man's not somewhere on the peripherals. You know, I mean, like he has Spider-Man's powers. He has all this history with him. And when you have Venom doing all his limited series and shit, I saw some good ones at the comic on. I saw Venom versus Mace, which is just some asshole in a green cape and has a steel mace and like a little subzero mask is so bad. I was I was listening to like a Patrice O'Neill
Starting point is 03:04:39 thing recently where they're talking about Venom about super about comics. Cool. And they were describing like what's cool and what's lame. And I remember like one of the things they they brought up was like you can like the villains being memorable are kind of late late like contrast a character in a certain way and stand out and can tell you what a good hero and a bad hero is and isn't because you can in some cases use that, you know. And a lot of people it's true.
Starting point is 03:05:03 The Flash has a lot of nothing villains, right? Gorilla, you're not going to say much about that. Does, you know, whatever. He's it's a lot of nuns, not a lot of non interesting things there. But Professor Zoom and technically if you want to get into like some of the other speedsters as well and then the Dark Flash and shit, Death Flash. I think the I think Zoom is so cool.
Starting point is 03:05:25 I think that that I think that Flash's biggest villain is Flash with a reversed color palette is the worst thing in the universe. But I think that's the worst. But his powers are the opposite. Whatever. It's it's copy, paste and hit invert in a way that's different because his powers are are inverted in such a way that like most of him using his powers makes life suck.
Starting point is 03:05:48 It's really it's I like I like it. I think about this when you're watching Animated Spider-Man on Fox Box whatever, if you said you're going to think that the kingpin is one of the most interesting, coolest villains ever. Later on in a Daredevil show, you'd be like, get out of my fucking face. That's stupid. It really takes someone, a really good writer or a scenario to actually bring these villains out and make them really interesting.
Starting point is 03:06:14 Because now it's like I want homecoming vulture. Yeah, yeah, vulture. I hate vulture. He's a gross old man. He was just Ric Flair and a fucking. Yeah, instead of plasma, he's sucking youth youth. Yeah, that's so yeah. So all it really takes is a good angle and you can do it.
Starting point is 03:06:31 But you know, one's taking boomerang or the spot and doing shit with. OK, the spot, though, is like infinite powerful. And if she yes, he's one of those guys. Rami Rami had ideas for Sandman. He just didn't get to really use them. I never spot bugs me because he is so fucking busted. And like it's that scene. It's that one loser.
Starting point is 03:06:53 He gets the same man gets that scene, you know. Yeah, man, I feel like I feel like Spider-Man's a biggie. Spots fucking cool. Things that should creep you out. One, I was playing Overwatch with a buddy once says Kevin. And watch is creepy. We were chatting and on the menus, I noticed Mercy was breathing and I have no idea why, but I got creeped out.
Starting point is 03:07:11 Yeah. Now, if I notice a character in a video game, breathe, I get anxious. Is there anything video game related like that that bothers you? Heartbeat noises. OK, I hate them. Oh, there's who you're going to. You're going to hit a bad one in in Hollow Knight. But that's off the list. I'm going to say like characters that die with their eyes open.
Starting point is 03:07:34 Oh, yeah, sex had that problem for the longest time. Characters always have their eyes in real life, though. It does, but it's still unnerving. I don't like like if a game is not going to animate people's mouths moving when they talk, then like it's weird. But like in the soul's way, it's annoying because they're just standing there and the voice is just happening in an ethereal echo from the room. At least to me, if you add the Metal Gear Solid head nod
Starting point is 03:08:02 while they talk, it makes it normal. You would love the old reasonable thing of just wild arm movement. Yeah, yeah, they're all over. I'm I'm totally down with MGS head bobbing to replace talking like there are. They're doing like this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, every conversation. But but the just standing still to like holding an eye to how holding an idol pose with no attempt at having a gesture.
Starting point is 03:08:26 What are you doing? Sucks, you know, like even if it's just hands moving, I'll take that. Oh, sorry about that, girly. Yeah, red versus blue. Exactly. I thought you were one of them, but their faces are always masked usually. So it doesn't matter. But that's much. That's exactly it. But that's what they got. You can bob your head to show you're talking with a masked face. Metal Gear.
Starting point is 03:08:49 And finally, Time Access says, dear Ashley, what's the most you've invested in something you've never touched? For example, I was considered myself a huge fan of the near games and I know a ton about them, but I've never played a single one. Huh. I only watched a bunch of playthroughs. I can't think of anything that I invested time or money into that. I actually never touched at all. I mean, I always go back or start it at some point.
Starting point is 03:09:13 Yeah, there's always a limit to it. Like I have I have an interest in Warframe, but I've touched it at this point. And there is like that. And it's like, I still don't haven't done a deep dive. You all have. I also haven't spent one cent on it. No, I haven't. A lot of people haven't. It's free. Yeah, exactly. So you haven't invested anything into it.
Starting point is 03:09:31 I will also say that peripherally, due to this channel, I am like by like I've been like dragged into investment with Yakuza. Yeah, despite having not played, right? Besides the test, the test session. There's a million other things you'd rather fucking do. And I think I think it's right. I think it's cool, but I just haven't. But to the point where like I'm getting looped
Starting point is 03:09:53 into memes that I don't understand, you couldn't possibly I'm going. I spent all my money chatting with cam girls. I don't have money to go see my daughter in the hospital. It's like, I appreciate that you've included me in on this meme, but I don't understand it. I don't know. Enjoy it though. I don't know. Enjoy it for its dankness. Like I guess like a mushroom.
Starting point is 03:10:15 I guess I this character makes sense on this person's face. When you paste them, why are you on Big Bird? I don't know why don't. Is this a meme from the future? You don't understand yet with the fucking colored old man. Like, yeah, so means from the future. They're my guess. I've never I've never actually touched the controller
Starting point is 03:10:36 and played Final Fantasy 15, but I feel like I know a lot about it. Oh, really? OK. I played it when we did the video. Well, I mean, I watched the game when the game is finally done. Yeah, you can hop in and you'll have a fun time. But like, I know all the characters. I know all their I know all their likes and dislikes now. All you all you really need to know is Cindy and Hammerhead.
Starting point is 03:10:58 More to that. Is there? Yeah. What about Gladio? Hey, no, all you need to know is that if you beat Gladio's DLC mission with a high enough ranking, you have to play some shirtless the whole game. There you go. Cup noodle. Yeah, exactly. The ultimate flavor experience. Fishing recipes.
Starting point is 03:11:17 Also, that that the thing where they have the girls replacing the guys and you've got Aranea. There is some stupid, stupid shit coming out of those mods. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's some there's some dumb shit. Snake fucking on the battlefield with Gladio behind him. Like, I'm like, what game is this? Why is Snake in an old castle and then Prompto just goes flying? How about this?
Starting point is 03:11:41 Could you see yourselves being really into overwatch? No, a lot about overwatch, but you hadn't actually played it. I could see that. I could see that if I was good with Source Filmmaker. I could definitely see that. But I'd want to play it at that point. And though, I mean, like if you just you just never had a chance to like, I don't know, like it's it was only on a console or something.
Starting point is 03:12:01 Yeah, that's definitely that's definitely existed. But like, I feel like I've gotten past most of those in my life, if anything. But yeah, cool. What's coming up? What's coming out, guys? The Apology LP of Detroit continues. When do we get the fricking gun? The Apology Tour, is that what it is? Apology Tour.
Starting point is 03:12:21 For me, it's the See the Content. My favorite, my favorite version of this is. I wish we could call it Reach Rice. I really do. I just call it what? It'll fuck up Retroit. But it'll fuck up the searches. Yeah, I would.
Starting point is 03:12:31 I saw somebody in one of the comments talking about the episodes, is like, hey, you know, you guys could get radically different endings if you only change a few things. Oh, what's that? Kill everyone. So that's the thing. Like there's definitely a lot of discussion going like, I hope they don't get forced into doing. I hope that they that you guys don't get forced into doing bad things
Starting point is 03:12:50 for on a shitty path just because I say I want to see. No, I'm doing bad things because I want to do. Please don't misunderstand. And it's all in some stuff we're going to do is going to be the same. Like, but this is not my piece. It didn't work. Yeah, this is very simply a we're doing the things we feel like doing a second time and we're going to see what it what what what sticks.
Starting point is 03:13:12 But also it's like we've we can't game plan it too hard with other games. Like, should we just go the evil patch? Should we play like a telltale game and be an asshole to everybody? And we never really did anything with this is the perfect game to pull the double trigger. While not trying to pre and why not trying to trying not to end the game even earlier by killing people off even faster. And like, you know, I the one thing I did ask was,
Starting point is 03:13:34 I'm like, how do we get to that cool scene we want? And you found out. And that's the one steering. And we're going to steer. That's the one steer. I mean, we're going to try for. Yeah, that's it. You know, the rest is fucking we'll see what happens when we get there.
Starting point is 03:13:46 But yes, I think everything else is continuing. Does does does got it and finished this week or? I don't know. And I know either. I went and checked a video that went up the other day and it was farther back than I anticipated. There you go. Either way, my arm, my arm, my arm, my arm, my arm, my arm. Summon up the power of the God.
Starting point is 03:14:08 Yeah, we beat it. Yeah. So it was a very good time had by all. Yeah, except for Angra. That dickhead. Dude, I swear it was so much. It was better off camera. Yeah, well, you'll have to live. I will have to live with the burnings that I'm getting.
Starting point is 03:14:27 And what's going on? I'm getting roasted. What's going on? Well, I was going to I was going to say that. Oh, that that God Hand continues. Oh, and Tokyo Mirage Sessions continues. Yes. And big shenanigans continues in Tokyo Mirage Sessions. We're like we're nearing.
Starting point is 03:14:47 What's we're nearing it? Edging. We're nearing the Garnif. We're we're almost ready to get Garnif off. What? It's happening. You can't beat him. You would have to either know Fire Emblem, which you don't. I don't. Or no, just Fire Emblem.
Starting point is 03:15:03 There's a death in this case. There's a thing. Yeah, the Dragon Stone. Anyway, fair, fair enough. Yeah, what's what's going on, guys? I'm going to stream at least once this week over at Twitch. So TV angriest, Pat. Matt, are you streaming this week?
Starting point is 03:15:19 No, I don't think so. I'm actually I will be at. Oh, you're going somewhere. I'm going to G Fest. I was invited last year, couldn't go. So I'm going again and I have another panel. That's this weekend. That's this weekend.
Starting point is 03:15:31 My panel's on Sunday. I should be back here at noon. My plan, my plan nails at noon. Don't clarify. Don't plan nails at noon. My plane. No, my plane. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. My plane lands at noon.
Starting point is 03:15:49 So I should be here bar in any explosion. Might be a bump. We'll see because I'm going to be places too. But oh, really? Coming up on Wally vs. There's more near automata. Of course there is. There is a long ass game.
Starting point is 03:16:04 There is more narrow tail. Oh, there is. I'm going to probably depending on whether or not the quality can be improved, I'm going to probably get up a nice summarized version of the dreaded encounter. So me versus Kenny in a highlight reel that a solid is put together. Dreaded for him, maybe. So yeah, that's probably coming out this week.
Starting point is 03:16:30 And that's right. They should change their name from your video games to yo, we're bad at video games. Oh, shit. And yeah, Mothman's been in the kitchen. I've been in the kitchen. We've been working on some Kirby lore hot for you. And a little bit of a little sprinkle of a little Wormay race thing. Little V in the kitchen.
Starting point is 03:16:52 We've got some shit is coming and might be ready this week as well. So we'll see. Man, you got a lot of stuff cooking. That reminds me. So you talk about Kenny. I will also be at the with the losers of the video game crew at Galloping Ghost. It's unfortunate. This this Saturday, where they will probably lose at a lot of our k-games.
Starting point is 03:17:09 They're quite the primarily if they still have that cab. I'm heading to New York into New York this weekend for a comedy festival. So I'm not sure I think I'll be back in time for Monday. But if not, then we'll just bump it. I'm sure we'll manage. And if not, yeah, yeah, see you on Tuesday. Yeah, I think that's it. Yeah, we did it.
Starting point is 03:17:31 We did the podcast. That's podcast. Yeah. Goodbye, everybody. Later. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm.
Starting point is 03:18:25 Oh, the air and water flowing hard. The land we call our home to keep. The dark from coming through the way of what we owe. Yes, the song of sons and daughters hide the heart of who we are. Making peace to build a future strong, united, working till we call the air and water flowing hard. The land we call our home to keep the dark from coming through the way of what we owe. Yes, the song of sons and daughters hide the heart of who we are. Making peace to build a future strong, united, working till we fall and we all lift.
Starting point is 03:19:27 And we're all adrift together, together through the cold mist till we're lifeless together, together. Mhm. Mhm. Mhm.

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