Castle Super Beast - SBFC 255: Hulk Hogan Needs His Loops

Episode Date: July 18, 2018

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Starting point is 00:00:36 Sliding in, perfect fit. Perfect fit, just dropping and stomping all over the Devil May Cry music that's getting everybody hype. We're stomping all over it with the start of the podcast, that's correct, yeah. I had it on YouTube, I clicked it, I just let it play, I was doing something, and then I was like, holy shit, what part of the song is this? This part's really good, but how come I don't, why are the male vocals so much louder and like they're much better, wow, it's because it just went to little V's version.
Starting point is 00:01:31 It's just about to mention that his version of the song is better than the song, there's the song. I miss Allie's vocals, like I miss the Fimo vocals, but his like more like, you know. There's the song, there's the little V version, and then there's the V version, which is literally V as in 4chan's V sings together in one of those messes. How far did you get? No, I got 30 seconds until the song started, and do you remember, do you remember the harmonica versions and the harmonica, um, fuck it, Kizu versions of Metal Gear?
Starting point is 00:02:12 Dude, those are awesome. The greatest, the greatest of all time. That version is not, too many, too many guys who submitted their tracks for that version editorialized it with extra lyrics. I bet they did. That's the problem. Come on, just sing the song. It's like karaoke.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Yeah. That Kizushi, it's great. I wish I had a Kizu right now. You always have a Kizu, really, you just use your mouth and fuck, it's almost the same thing as your mouth. Like, I know, I got nothing, that's like a busted recorder, pretty much, you know, it's anyway. But you need to be in front of a fan that you speak and then it fucks your voice up.
Starting point is 00:03:03 The robot filter, the original robot filter, absolutely. I remember having fun with that. I had fun with that like a few days ago, in front of a fan, I was like, yeah, hours of fun. You know, it is, and I'll tell you why it's hours of fun. Why, what do you got? I had fun with that, no, it's just, I had fun with that in a time when the sun was down and there was no electricity because I wasn't allowed to watch any TV.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Okay, so electricity was there, but it was, it might as well not. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So in a time, in a time when I couldn't do anything except for kill my own time, you know, technically still using the electricity. I am. And I'm still just playing, I'm still just playing. But for some reason it's considered less bad if like I'm creating my own entertainment as opposed to like, you know, having outside influence, exactly, exactly, right?
Starting point is 00:03:56 Because the time is supposed to not be my own entertainment as artisanal, you know, you created it yourself. So yeah, so, so basic. So if I was, if it was like Sabbath, right, if it was Friday night, and I was, and my mom walked by and I was playing with my toys, that would be a problem, right? That would, that would not be great fringe, mom, but that's, but if I was just sitting there staring at my toys and just not doing anything, but I'm just staring at your imagination, it's the worst toy of all, but it's the, but it's the only toy I had.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Hold on. It's been, it's been a while since I personally celebrated the day of rest. Uh-huh. What is, okay, it's supposed to be rest up, chill out, right? But that includes don't have fun. Yeah. Because it's not, it's basically, uh, on the seventh day of the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.
Starting point is 00:04:49 Right. So all that shit. So what that, what that gets translated into is, yes, your day of rest, but it's also your day of dedicating it to God. So doing things for selfish purposes is not encouraged, right? I was told when I was a little kid by a local minister, something that I don't think they intended to be a loophole, but it turned out to be one, which was celebrate God and everything you do.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Remember that thing? So I went, okay. And then went and played Genesis games. Okay. So, and was like, was it Noah's arcs 3D? No, it was fucking, uh, super Noah's arc. No, it was a terrible rental of Cadillacs and dinosaurs. Well, here, the actual direct thing that, that, that, that comes from is, um, remember
Starting point is 00:05:40 the Sabbath day and keep it holy. Keeping it holy. Yeah. Means no action. It's like, it's kind of like, you know how? Yeah. You know how Xavier Wood says, keep it tight. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Right. And do your thing, but keep it holy. Right. So the idea is, if you're watching Saturday morning cartoons, that's not keeping it holy. Whatever. If you're playing with your fucking aliens toys, that's not keeping it holy. What if you have just a big cross in your hand? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:04 The whole time. Totally. You watch TV, but every now and then you just, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. But if you had the big cross in your hand as a toy to back the fuck up on anything that's possible. So if I had, yeah. So if I had like my wolfwood. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:19 If you had your wolfwood that couldn't possibly have existed back then. Yeah. Yeah. If I have my wolfwood and he's got his cross and I don't transform it into the cross punisher and I take the cigarette out of his mouth and I just pretend he's a preacher man. Yeah, you can. Then you're totally good.
Starting point is 00:06:37 I think there's action figures of the TV show Preacher coming out. There you go. You're good. You're totally good. Yeah. Take in your face, Mom Wooly. Any interaction with any other toy, for example, Kevin Nash or the giant, if you would, perhaps maybe an ally viper or snake eyes, you just, you don't, you can't know, you're not going
Starting point is 00:06:56 to play with those toys. But if I stare at them, you can't stop me. Man, I can stare all I want. It's fucked up. I know exactly what wolf toy you mean, what wolfwood toy. He has a little blanket on the cross and you have to like manually pull the blanket off the most prolific one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:11 That thing. And it barely stood up on its own. It was so tough because you can't hold the cross, but I had to, I bought two of them because it kept falling over, but it had some good poses. Did the image comics have that? What was it? Image comics that had that run of fucking Jesus Christ is the superhero. Oh, probably.
Starting point is 00:07:27 The murder. You know, you mean goddess. He means the goddess. The goddess with, yeah. Yeah. What if your mom walked in and you're, you're reading the goddess and you're like supplemental material. Uh, so the problem with that is that that would have been categorized as like bullshit blast
Starting point is 00:07:40 for me. Right. Because it's like, there's a level of like, this is actually sincere. Because in God to see Jesus is way too weak compared to Canon Jesus. Yeah. So like, if I were to go watch like Jesus Christ vampire hunter, that's fucking blasphemy. So that's not gonna. The vampires, he's killing, he's making them up.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Or hey, Helsing on the gun, it says Jesus Christ is in heaven. I can watch Helsing, right? No. You can't. What about Jesus episodes of South Park? Like the early season. Oh yeah. That's just great.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Not blasphemy at all. No, no, man, mom, it's not a robot show. It's the Japanese interpretation of the Dead Sea Scrolls story. So all that to say that I got pretty good at just using my brain and again, doing your own thing is fine. And like just dicking around with musical instruments is fine. And then when we got a mic for our computer back to the fan, when we got a mic for our computer, like we just fucking dick around recording our audio and singing songs and
Starting point is 00:08:40 doing dumb things and creating acapellas and using the fan for effects. But if your mom walked by that on a regular day, do you like go like, yeah, like pull my devil trigger. And then your mom comes by and you're like, Jesus, there's literally a recording. I don't think I'm pretty sure it's it's gone. But there's my me and my brother were like, dicking around or whatever. And then like at some point, like, like, we're like doing an acapella beat and then I was like beatboxing.
Starting point is 00:09:07 Yeah. And then while I was beatboxing, he goes into like, he starts doing boys to men because he could sing. Yeah. So he's doing like, whatever. So he starts doing a boys to men song. And then like, I kick in and I go and while I'm beatboxing, I'm like, not today, not now.
Starting point is 00:09:21 And then he stops and he goes, oh, and then he fucking, and he, whatever, he calls me out and then and then the recording ends and it was terrible. But it's one of those things where that's not like unless you replace baby with Jesus, then you're fine. Because that that's the only distinction between between like R and B and like religious songs. Although we go to the end of the roads that I can't let go, Jesus, it's so natural. You belong to me. I belong to you.
Starting point is 00:09:52 There you go. You can do it. Jesus owns a lot of people. Yeah. It's crazy. That was good. It's always good to get a refresher of you. I'm just going later into the lyrics with Jesus, relax.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Take it slow. I ain't got nowhere to go. Hey, wait a second, have a really sexy Jesus spread out on a couch because tonight is just the night. Yeah. Candles everywhere. Hey, that's not appropriate on the day of the Sabbath, there's going to be no rest for either of you need rest.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Not allowed. Not tonight. Not tonight. Holy or tight. It's tight. Okay. We'll hear an artist, right? No, not anymore.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Whatever. At some point in your life, you're an artist. So drawing Jesus. Is that cool? Yeah. What if you draw Jesus and he's too hot and he's like life and he's like, yeah, that's still fine. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:51 Quite. I mean, remember I was raised on white Jesus like everyone else was, so that's what we got. Yeah. That was probably fine. I feel like he's really. Honestly, look at first of all, drawing was a really good way to kill time. What if he's got like that V thing?
Starting point is 00:11:06 Yeah. All the Adonis trail, I think it's called no, no, no, it's a tendon. It's another V. Yeah. It's called. Yeah. It's called the Adonis something Adonis trail looking men have them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Um, you can do that. That's totally cool. But here's the problem. Here's the thing. You're not, you're not being creative enough because we used to draw, you'd grab pen and paper all the time. Yeah. But drawing Jesus is fucking boring.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Yeah. Let's be real. What's, you know, drawing angels. Okay. And you know what? And you know what those angels are doing also turning into the redeemer. Well, no, I mean, you can draw the redeemer. What the fuck did the angels do?
Starting point is 00:11:44 A bunch of fire? Yeah. When did they do that during the thing during the fall of fall? Exactly. So you know what you fucking do later? You draw the angels kicking angel ass as the fall is happening and you get to draw this badass scene and it's all accurate and fine. And then like way in the background, your mom's like, Oh, what's that?
Starting point is 00:12:05 And then you're like, Oh, it's just, that's just an angel in the background, but secretly it's a character from a wet work. There you go. I feel like with a few practical effects and markers, you could just turn all of your wrestling dolls into, into angel dolls and just say that you're doing just put a little light white tissue and then it'll say it's a robe and then just stick whatever on their back for wings. Dude, there's the fucking the beasts of the apocalypse, right?
Starting point is 00:12:31 Like the multi-headed angel with a huge body. Yeah. Like the lion with the horns on its head that have like, like faces that are shouting and a tail and the fucking the horror of Babylon riding the red dragon and like, there's all these characters. There's these bosses, the four, the four kings, a legion, legion. You can design them. You can absolutely do that stuff, but as long as they're the bad guys, that's why I love
Starting point is 00:12:53 Rob Liefeld's got to see doesn't push it as much as it should. It could do all types of stuff, but it was so insular. And when you had all this like this cool, narrow mind, you had all this cool energy in you, but you didn't have an outlet like Sonic the Hedgehog to put it into. Yeah. Your Christian, your Christian energy had to go elsewhere and that's what we did. Big Christian energy. You know, drawn angels.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Fuck yeah. Absolutely. Armor turning into weird ones or the like the like the classic weird ones or like the modern interpreter. Oh, I started, I started putting some fucking V-fins on those bitches. Like I started going, there started some Gundam parts coming out. The seven heads, seven wings. Shit is so fucking weird looking.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Dude, for example, right? I need seven heads early in early in the book of Genesis, they talk about the Garden of Eden and then there's this angel that's hanging out at the gate that's got the flaming sword that says you can't get, you can't get back to that tree to the fucking tree. Swords on fire, I'll cut you. You can't get back to the tree. Like burning blade. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Yeah. Once you're banned from getting back to the fucking, the hard of the garden where the tree was, the fucking burning blade is holding you back, right? So you can, what are you going to do? You draw a sword, you put some fire around it. Yeah. Okay. Eventually you do that enough and you're like, fuck that.
Starting point is 00:14:05 What's the next level? Well, why not have the blade actually be fire? Where does that go next? Totally. Well, it's basically a lightsaber. Oh, wow. Right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:15 I'm going to just get straight to that beam saber point because that's what the fucking angel is holding because it's a, it's accurate. Yeah. Who says it's not? Who was there? No one. Exactly. You can fucking, dude, that's the, that shit slowly started just becoming.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Lots of cheats. There's lots of work. Yeah. Especially, and then when endless waltz came out and it had the fucking wings on it for real. I knew it. I knew it. I knew you were going to go there.
Starting point is 00:14:41 No, no. It was all, it was a little bits of everything, but Angela, Angela from spawn. She's in a straight up angel that you can't say all, all, all cool bits and pieces started coming together to make custom angels that you're allowed to draw totally. If you really cherry pick a bunch of spawn and you're like a super Christian kid, you just show the right issues or like, you know, and you're like, you're gonna have to cherry pick comic books and they would be like, here, look at this and they put their hands to cover like the guns in the picture above.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Sure, sure, sure. Did you just show this shot of Redeemer coming down from like the heavens? I like, I have to reiterate that like, again, it's, if the rest of the content is blasphemous, it's not going to fly. It's not going to fly. You need to do a total conversion mod of your comic. Yeah, yeah, spawn. Just, just pare it down to the good parts and edit it.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Yeah. Like people do with their favorite porn. That's a lot of work. Yeah. Wait, wait. My favorite part. I just got really confused and thought what you meant was that people edit down their favorite porn in the way that we're describing so that it can pass as Jesus stories.
Starting point is 00:15:53 You could, I think James Gunn did direct PG porn, right, which was a short series. And there was that other thing with the, where they Photoshop fruits and vegetables and healthy banana and such over screenshots. So yeah. And gifts. So I mean, it eventually became a thing. I think like modern porn would be really hard to do that with like just the stuff that's just shot with an HD camera and like a hotel room or a big mansion, but like classic porn
Starting point is 00:16:23 in like the 80s or 90s, tons of fucking story. It's when you finish a, when there's a commercial break and not commercial break, when there's like a segue into the next scene, you might as well have like a Detroit become human. You mean a local big pop up with the branches that could have happened. Yeah. Totally. Yeah. But, but no, Pat.
Starting point is 00:16:44 I was in fact referring to that skin color, it pisses me off. I can't get into that. I got to edit this and grab Photoshop and change the colors around. That's a lot of work. Yeah, it is. Isn't it? Isn't it a lot of work? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Just bring your boner. Isn't it kind of insane? You would have to edit a different video. The color of the, of what you're looking at because you're just, you can't take it. You just look to the right, like, doesn't it seem, doesn't it seem kind of nuts that you would take the time to change the skin color because it bothers you that much? That's just, that there's a lot of porn, maybe without the skin color. Maybe, man.
Starting point is 00:17:22 But I like that one. That one is the one that I enjoy. That one is a good story. I'm not going to let that go, so I'm going to fucking go and edit it instead. Are you talking about Bethesda models? Are you talking about those people with their clean faces? Oh my God. Maybe, you know.
Starting point is 00:17:39 You say that, Willie. It's a lot of work, but like, there's a Star Wars movie that has cut out 80% of the movie. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. Like pure editing. See, like, oh, just cut that part. Just cut that part. Like, all those videos that we made where we cut 90% of the crap out.
Starting point is 00:17:57 It's like, I'm like, it's that level of, like, it's that level of, like, grabbing the lasso tool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wild fucking with your other hand fucking on your boner and you're just clicking and you're so angry that you have to fucking eye drop the colors away. You're just like, select color selection. I want that color. Yep.
Starting point is 00:18:19 And oh no, it's going over. It wasn't a clean. I got to reselect it. It was not tight enough. Change the threshold a little bit. That might help. Yeah, it is a lot of effort. It's probably pretty hard to fucking do accurate color work.
Starting point is 00:18:34 That's like depressing. It's so insane. It's so insane. It's like so much work. This is probably the time cubes fall. It's one of my favorite. How did you find that? It's this like a Photoshop advice thread.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Like, hey, I need some help. I just thought you meant like music, like porn music videos, which like is very easy to do. The internet takes you places, man. Music bounces. Music has a bounce to it and so does most of the human body. So it's very easy to cut to music. You had one of those nights, huh? Where you clicked on a thing and you're like, oh, this is, no, this is old.
Starting point is 00:19:16 This is way bad. Yeah. But it's still, and it's just, it's still a thing and it's just the level of anger that it takes to be like, you don't know, it might be personal crap. It's fascinating because it's like, I want to sit down and talk to you and figure out, like describe, describe to me your process here. Using your talents for, use your talents for good. Not for, for, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:19:46 Is this evil or is this just a huge piece to tie? Chaotic evil? Oh my God. I don't know. I don't understand any. That makes me tired. Oh yeah. Just thinking about it.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Just thinking about it. I just, just turn your head to the right like three inches and there's a problem solved. Depends on how many inches you got to turn. Like elsewhere. I don't know. I, yeah, it's fine. I mean, God bless. Hey.
Starting point is 00:20:13 No. You know, in a world. Lord and everything you do. In a world where, where, I get it. You can't relate. It's not you. It's not the same. I know.
Starting point is 00:20:23 It's almost as if I have to go through the world not relating to 80% of the things I encounter. It's not you look at. It's almost as if I have to put myself into things that do not fucking relate to me. There's fucking videos made from the first person perspective that probably do not have the color that you don't like. It's super easy to reverse yourself. Apparently that's like a huge problem. Apparently it's a huge problem because it's super disorienting and creepy to anybody that doesn't like match the body proportions involved. I guess.
Starting point is 00:20:52 Guess what? Yeah. Hey, hi. Hello. It's fucking virtual reality now. What's up? Welcome to fucking wooly. Welcome to me.
Starting point is 00:21:00 You know, but that's fine. But it's like, it's just like, you know that thing where you go, hey, that's not me. I can't relate to that. Yeah. Okay. No, I don't usually do that. I don't encounter that very often. Remember Russ?
Starting point is 00:21:16 It's pretty nice. Remember Russ? Oh, do we talk about Russ like four days ago? Like fuck, you know. And how after that controversy where it auto changed your gender and race and dick size, I never heard about the game again once. I get it ever. I wasn't even there for this conversation. I know exactly what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:21:37 I never heard of the game ever again. I just want to bring up. I forgot which one of you guys we were discussing, uh, like the bionic commando and you're like, it was you. You were talking to a mirror. No, one of you. I wasn't fucking there. One of you was at basically we were having a discussion.
Starting point is 00:21:58 It was kind of like, why are we leaves midway through the conference? I'm not talking one of you led to a kid. I think we were talking about like, but like what's the thing though? And we like, it went a slight like a step further than it usually does. Yeah. Just liking the old game and going like, you know, like I don't often play any games or a character that kind of has dreadlocks. I thought that was cool. That was a podcast where we're all here.
Starting point is 00:22:21 That was me for sure. Yeah. And I was like, and I just had a moment where I was like, oh, oh, that's cool. I guess it's super minor because I never, ever, ever relate to the thing that I'm playing as an anything because that's not the world. Yeah. I live in, I live in a world where I have to automatically just relate to things that are not me. Yeah. So when I, when that happened one time and it's a white guy, but it was a slight little thing.
Starting point is 00:22:50 I was like, oh, that's cool. Yeah. He's got dreads. I remember it was super minor. I remember it was me because you're forgetting the second part of this where you said that and I went, fuck you. I don't give a shit. That's bullshit. He used to be a redhead.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Yes. Yes. That's what it was. I remember. Yeah. Exactly. And I'm like, I never get that either. There are no redheads ever as the main character of anything.
Starting point is 00:23:15 And it was like a Duke Nukem style cut. Yeah. Look just like me. That's hilarious. Yeah. That's exactly what that was. Right. And that was impassable because neither gave a shit.
Starting point is 00:23:28 No, no, no, no. But ultimately it's just one of those things where it's like, hey, I'm not used to at all. Like seeing something that I can like not have to stretch to go, oh yeah, I can relate to that or whatever. So when I boot up any game and there's a character. Eh, I'm also. Yeah, there you go. That guy's got my pecs. Especially if it's James Bond games.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Especially if it's that one James Bond game. That's so fucking creepy. And that cover of that hunting simulator game. I saw that. That one's also fucking scary. Why'd I get faced offed? Yeah, that's weird. I mean, I got that.
Starting point is 00:24:04 I got that snowboarder in that. Moby. Moby. In uh. He looked different in the, he looked a little different in the other games. And then when they tried to make it more realistic. And that SSX game, it was like, yeah, it was just straight up you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:17 You had it as your Facebook profile for like a year. I did. I had that. I had Xavier Stone from Guitar Hero one. Xavier Stone was really bad. Xavier Stone was like, well, why did you get into the guitar here? They fucking. No, Moby was worse.
Starting point is 00:24:32 You became Xavier Stone over time. But they fucking, then they made, then they made him. I did cosplay Xavier Stone. And then they made, um, they made him into Jimi Hendrix. And I was like, ah, boo. But anyway, needs to be more games out of Ireland featuring leprechauns. That'll, that'll. I guess what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:24:51 That'll be the solution. I guess then it's like, I understand that's a nice feeling considering how little, how few times I had it. It sounds like you need to start using the eyedrop or two. I was going to say, but to like, like, to the level that it becomes a mandatory thing. I couldn't imagine the world like that where I'm like, it's so the default. You know, that's why it's rough to play a Dark Souls game. Hey, listen, let's.
Starting point is 00:25:17 For you. Let's backtrack to a completely different conversation for the explanation to this. Do you remember I told you about a Skyrim mod that replaced all the spiders with bears? Yes. Yes. Yes. Well, I have a phobia of spiders, but I want to play Skyrim. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:38 I have to replace it with something. I just have to. So. Only way. What am I going to do? Not play Skyrim. So what you say it is, effectively, I have a phobia of certain texture packs. That's correct.
Starting point is 00:25:54 And I might need a level at least this high on the huge heart to feel comfortable. Otherwise, the innate discomfort I feel is going to make this game bad. I'm going to ruin this experience for me for the ultimate like a game comes out and it's like, it's a mod where you set your fucking color range and that everybody can be happy. Or they could just have the fucking balls to make an Elder Scrolls game and fucking lizard or cat country. And then this problem just fucking disappears. Does it?
Starting point is 00:26:28 Or does it? Does it like intensify? Well, no, because then it just offsets to the furries and then the furries are like, I like the blue ones or whatever. That was the old Moby. Oh, wow. That's a really different. The last SXS where it was Moby Jones from that.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Yeah, that's completely different. He's wearing a Union Jack shirt and stuff. And he's got like a helmet that always covers up his hair. So it's like. Yeah. Yeah. I guess I guess what we're trying to say is the eyedropper tool was a mistake. It was created for the purest of purposes.
Starting point is 00:27:02 And now I love it. Look at us now. I understand. We have to use purest. I don't understand what the eyedrapper tool does. It gets people. It finds the color you want. Oh, so you click it and it tells you what exact like hex code or whatever.
Starting point is 00:27:17 Yeah. Yeah. If you go more into it, but otherwise it's just an eyedrop. And then you're like, hmm, let me find the color. Oh, I got it. It gets people irrationally mad at Marina Fanart is what it does. I saw that on the way here. You want to go the other way on that on the way.
Starting point is 00:27:35 You want to go the other way on that. Holy shit. Do you understand light? No. Do you remember when the very first time big boss got shown off in ground zeroes? And the question was, what the fuck happened to his hair? Cause it was like shock white in when he comes up off the cliff. Cause the lighting effects are going nice.
Starting point is 00:27:59 It's like, cause when you, there's a fucking helicopter spotlight on your head. Yeah. That's what happens to your hair. Like, like, you know, just God bless like calm heads prevailing and a simple detailed response showing official art that has different moods that can absolutely show you that light and mood makes things different. I saw the one that was like, I can't believe Nintendo's whitewashing Marina and it was the eyedropper tool on July 2018 next to July 2018 in the same fucking image.
Starting point is 00:28:35 She's grabbing one for her elbow and from the side of her face because of light. Yeah. Or the photo or the picture, literal photo of the amiibo in different lighting conditions. And you're like, and then they're like outright. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Got that amiibo over the weekend.
Starting point is 00:28:54 It's exactly as it should be. In conclusion. Yeah. What is the conclusion? The eyedropper tool was a mistake. Did it did the time cube invent the eyedropper and the rest of this podcast is going to have to work really hard to grapple away this title of the podcast, right? Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:29:22 Yeah. I was taught. Oh, man. The eyedrop tool is a device is a time cube is a powerful device. It is. And it is absolutely brought to us by time cube. Yeah. To keep the side separated.
Starting point is 00:29:37 To keep the world. Are you on the right side of the time cube? Let's check with the eyedropper tool. There you go. Yeah. The Rubik's Cube. Also a time cube propaganda device. Really?
Starting point is 00:29:52 Keeping the colors on their own sides. Just. Oh, man. Yeah. No, that's 43 quintillion combinations, but only one. All right. Maybe like a breathe in through the nose out through the mouth moment. You want to commence running away from this topic as fast as possible?
Starting point is 00:30:17 Yeah, maybe perhaps. Are there any advertisements from any sponsors that would like to advertise on this particular gas? They're always. We're going to get there later. Okay, sure. We'll get there later. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:32 But I guess we can start. Hey, you went to New York. I did. Tell us about your fun time in New York. Yeah, man. I went to a comedy festival in New York. I had a really good time. What's it called?
Starting point is 00:30:42 Because I never really heard. It's called Skankfest. Always? Yes, it is. Like S-K-A-N-K. No, exactly as you would expect. That's correct. And I am exhausted from the laughing that I had.
Starting point is 00:30:57 And one thing, man, dude, I got us like, there's just little things that you remember every time, every time you hit, you know, America, and one of those things that's like, we don't have street meat here in Montreal. Like we have those trucks, but they're preplanned and it's a whole control thing. Oh, it's been such a fucking mess with that shit. And it's so, like, actual, it helps to eat keto when you have the ability to just be like... To eat it almost anywhere.
Starting point is 00:31:26 Yeah, man. You know, like the whole like bread dodge, because lettuce wraps are not a common thing yet. Some places have them, but... No, I was in a place this weekend where like, can you, you have a bunch of lettuce on the menu? Can you please wrap this burger? No, we don't know how to do that.
Starting point is 00:31:38 And they go, we can't do that. And I went, can't or won't? And they're like, no, we just can't. I'm like, okay. So, so it's nice to be able to just very quickly be like, yeah, give me the meat. Give me that. And that's and the lettuce and the fruits and the sorry, the vegetables and we're good exactly.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Or on a stick and it's delicious. And I'm like, fuck, I really do wish I had that. Yeah. No, I didn't really good time, you know, the usual. I mean, it was just, it was in and out though, because it was pretty much just like all day at this comedy thing. And there was a brief... Any notable names is what I mean.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Oh, a lot of my favorite comedians. Yeah. Jim Norton. Fucking. Harry Shafir and Bobby Kelly. I wouldn't. Big J. O'Kersen and Lou Shay Gomez.
Starting point is 00:32:26 To 90 and be that guy that everyone's looking and like, wow. Alive. The real surprise is already laying. Right. The guy that's like, he's, he's from the, which we call it. He's from the Howard Stern show. He is the dude that like constantly is falling off the wagon, going to rehab and then falling off again and like going to edit.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Like it's getting bad and he's the one where you're like, oh my God, I really need to see him live. Before you guys. Yeah. It's, let's be real. The important thing about this person is that I see them before they die. Dude, it fucking sucks. But you feel it.
Starting point is 00:33:02 You feel it. Um. I don't know. Some people are born fiends. They'll be fine. They can, you know, they crush dude. There was even a, uh, like I was, I was watching, uh, I was watching a Irish affairs set and like there was even a, um, unannounced unplanned in the basement, fucking tough crowd reunion
Starting point is 00:33:21 where that was the original show that Patrice O'Neill was on and stuff. And, um, Colin Quinn was there and like the rest and virtue boss and all of them. And they all went down and they did like a reunion show and it was like an unannounced thing. And I fucking, I was, I was too busy watching another great show, but it's like, it was that kind of caliber of weekend. It was fucking great. Um, uh, Tony Hinchcliffe as well.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Like another really fun guy. And yeah. And anyway, it was, it was, it was just a really good time, lay no nonstop comedy, uh, for like two days, um, uh, not, not the kind of place I'd expect to get, to get like spotted. But like I did, I did run into, um, at least like two or three people that were like, oh, Shana, what's up? You know, some people that we ran into at the barcade when we were there last time as well.
Starting point is 00:34:06 When I went to New York like years ago, without saying anything, I was just walking on time square and like three kids are like, oh, shit. Oh, cool. We are, you're in New York city. Yeah. Yeah. We are considerably more popular in the American urban center than we are within our own. And not.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Yeah. America. Um, and you know, I had to, I had to let our boy Brooklyn know I'm like, unfortunately, though, I'm in your literal neck of the woods, unfortunately, this time, no time, you know? That was cool. Though for, uh, I had like a one second walk by, uh, when we were next to, uh, Kino Kunia, the bookstore, the Japanese bookstore. Yes.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Yes. And I'm like, I got to pay. I've got to pay pilgrimage because I went last time. It's, it's, I think it's my favorite thing in New York city and I, it's one of those places where I'm just like, God damn it. If I lived here, this place would be my home dangerous for me. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:35:08 And even the, like, cause the bottom floor is just like, like a bunch of cool, like actual literature, Japanese books and whatnot and stuff upstairs. You've got the manga. You've got the untranslated stuff. You've got art books that cause never get pushed anywhere. There's a similar place that we didn't get to when we're all there. Uh, we went to LA and little Tokyo that remember I called you, I'm like, dude, they have a bunch of JoJo art books.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Do you want one here? And you were like, yeah, yeah, give me that or whatever. And that's like a similar place. I'm not sure it's the same, but whatever. And when someone says, there's one like this in New York city, it's like, oh, I got it. Yeah. Like I had to leave that hour. It's the best fucking thing.
Starting point is 00:35:40 I just love everything about it. And of course I'm biased because you go up the stairs and who's greeting you is your boy Vagabond fucking Musashi on the wall, the huge mural because he went out there and like did the fucking the full thing. And it's like, God damn it. I love this store, man. I just love this store. So I went, I bought the art of Overwatch book that I didn't actually catch up until now.
Starting point is 00:36:06 But I know like the one that had all the little fun concepts that like, yeah, the problem, like that books good, but the problem with it is like 80% of the book is just sprays. Okay. Like once you get past the thing, the rest of the book is just sprays and background art, which I'm, you know, it's still sealed, I hadn't opened it up yet. But, but the unused concept, that's always, that's what you're buying it for. That's what you're buying it for. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:27 So I got that. I grabbed the latest saga. Like a comic or eight or trade trade eight. Fuck, OK. Yeah. Which wow. Yeah. Which I think for good reason.
Starting point is 00:36:42 Right. But I think I think what we can do is when we fuck that joke. I think I thought about this, because no matter what we get everything wrong, it's like, I think, I think if it takes to the point where the new one comes out, you can move on to the new one. I think that's a fair way to know what that's fair because it takes so long for this thing to come out anyway, that you might as well enjoy it while it lasts. No, dumb joke.
Starting point is 00:37:08 It's the worst. We're stupid because we really did it. And they had on the shelf in the manga section, no less, Legend of the Galactic Heroes one to six and I was that after the original anime release. No, that's beforehand. That's the source material it's based on and I grabbed all the books off the shelf and walked to the cash with them without even looking twice. And it's like, oh, yeah, wait, these are novels.
Starting point is 00:37:34 These are real books. These are not manga. They're printed in manga format and they're sold in the manga section, but they're books. They tricked you. Yeah. But that's what I mean. I knew that's the source material.
Starting point is 00:37:46 Furious. Words. How about that? That's how sword art happens. Fucking tree killers. But anyway, it was no, no, I'm glad I fucking grabbed those because I'm thinking about it. Yeah. Universe balance itself out right there.
Starting point is 00:38:05 Okay. What else did you get? No, no, no. That was, you know, that was pretty much that. And I mean, I tweeted about the money situation because American money continues to be trash. It's just, it's just light novels, whatever. Anyway, it's just the fact that you pull out the both bills and you just forget, you just forget because it's just the minorst of inconveniences in the sense that it takes you a few, it takes
Starting point is 00:38:30 you seconds more, but it's like you're going through and I'm like, I'm gauging. I'm about two people behind, you know, so you're like, yeah, I'll start calculating how much I need now. So I'll just drop it down. No problem. And anywhere that's not America, folks, all that means is you pull it out, you see the red one and you go, I see the blue one and you go, I have 15 bucks done. Or the purple one too.
Starting point is 00:38:49 There's a purple one. And pretty much everywhere has colors for the different denominations. Yes. You're sorry. You're correct. And that's, and then you're, you're, and then you're sorted and like, yes, $100 bill green. So, uh, there's ours, ours, no, 100, 100 is red or 50 is red. Our purple is the 10, green is five, green is 20, 20, hundreds, hundreds of brown.
Starting point is 00:39:14 That used to be the color of the $2 bill before they killed it. Exactly. So, uh, so yeah, like, yes, you, like the numbers are there, but I'm saying when it's in the crumpled fucking, you know what I mean? And like, and like, I'm getting, when I'm getting back change, like I try to put them into like different organized things, but in your pocket, exactly in your pocket, it just kind of gets there anyway. Like, believe me, I was dealing with the same thing this weekend.
Starting point is 00:39:35 So exactly. So you, when you're crying and just trying to be like, I'm, if I spent all day putting them back into neat piles, then yes, you'll pull them out in neat piles. You won't have a problem, but I'm just auto-piloting what I do on a regular basis up here. And it's not, think about it so that when the time comes within seconds, it's sorted. I have, uh, I have 200 bucks American and 20 sitting in my closet because like every time I fucking go to the States, I fucking forget to get money. And then I have the problem where I have to get money out in the States and they rip
Starting point is 00:40:04 me off. So whatever. There's my emergency American dollars. Right? Yeah. Every, it's, but it's in a part of my closet that I have to go to whenever I get documents. And every time I open my closet and look at it, I pick one up and go, ah, ah, ah, stupid. And put it down.
Starting point is 00:40:18 It's fucking goofy. And there's actual subtle differences between the greens, right? Of the bills, but not to someone who's, yeah, we're not, you're not used to that. It's like, okay, you have to, it's usually like the outer, like the outer rim of the bills when they're stacked on each other are pretty similar, like whitish green-shaped colors, you know? But here's the thing. Like the insides are where the color is being bills.
Starting point is 00:40:38 It just makes you feel like you're richer than you are. Oh, yeah. When you look in your thing. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A bunch of ones. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:47 Just get like 50 ones. Yes. And then wrap them in a wad with a $100 bill over it. And you look fucking. We're actually meant the mental conditioning of like a stack of bills in your pocket, not meaning shit is also a very weird one. And just being into media at the time I was like growing up, I just, I think of green when I think of money in general.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Yeah. So I'm, oh, that's always, I'm like, yeah, then yes, of course, organizing through the bills is a mess. Yeah. The folks that are saying just stare at the numbers they're there are completely missing the point. Yeah. They're there if you stare at the numbers, but it can be quicker.
Starting point is 00:41:22 It's all, it's just. America's all about being quicker and doing faster. It's just the thing. It's just the conditioning of my day to day life. And then you hit that wall and go, oh, and that extra second it takes to even record like seeing the thing, seeing up a stack of colors on the front in the corner of the room, I can look at a pile of bills and know exactly how much money that is. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:41:41 Say there's say two idiots drop their wallets in front of you and they're both 10 feet away, but one is they're on opposite sides of you. You see that one idiot dropped his wallet and a bunch of blue and green fell out. You look to the other idiot and a bunch of red and brown fell out. You go help that guy, you go help him. You can tell from across the room how much money you're looking at. It's just that it's just a faster thing. And the numbers are there.
Starting point is 00:42:08 They're built. It's a little bit slower, but that's why it's a little complete. The other bit too is that change, change to like having dollar and two dollar coins is so much better than just like having one dollar bills and then just a bunch of useless change. The real win, of course, is just like, you know, just fucking use your card and pay pass it. Of course. And I used to do that a bunch until like I hit I started hitting a bunch of places that
Starting point is 00:42:35 didn't have it. Slash, they didn't work with the Canadian thing. And I was like, do I have to figure out if this is going to work in this shop or not? Because some places take pay pass, but not Canadian debit. So I was like, okay, the sorting out of this card thing is actually taking longer sometimes. I don't want to annoy any cashiers. I just want to be in and out as smoothly as possible. But again, I let's be real cash is an archaic form of payment.
Starting point is 00:42:59 If you have the ability to just use your card, then you know, for street meat, it's not the only legal. But I do. I do want to punctuate with this with it's totally a super minor thing. I'm just bringing it up. But it's because it I know, but people like to hear things and go, why, I like just overreact. Don't got no braille on your money. Why are you complaining about a thing that I am used to?
Starting point is 00:43:24 This is this is annoying. I hate that you are hating the thing that I'm used to. Like it's such a dumb, basic on off switch now, I'm sure I like to explain where I'm coming from. I'm sure someone's going to say at some point you recognize them by the faces of the dudes on the bill or the color differences because people point out the color differences that are subtle. Here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:43:44 I don't know who the fuck those guys are. Well, I know a couple, but I don't know who most of them are for fuck's sake. No, it's the it's the number Lincoln in Washington. Now that other guy can say really cool things to people because of those guys on the bills. Like I go, hey, I know I go, hey, I bet you haven't seen this president in a while and you push it over to the two of someone to kind of shine them off like I bet you haven't seen this wolf or beaver. Not as cool.
Starting point is 00:44:17 Nobody really nobody really refers to like Queen Victoria or Sir Wilfred Laurier pay respect to the Queen. Yeah. No one really does that. They're like like people over, hey, can McKenzie King change your mind? Like folks. Fuck. I don't.
Starting point is 00:44:36 Folks. I barely remember this motherfucker. So folks pointed out like when you look at all the bills next to each other, there's eight. There's 10 differences to them. The only one is that yellow is the $10 and like they're like that cashiers that work all day are able to see these little color differences because he's like the most hated of bills, but, but when you have all these stacked on top of each other, like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:44:59 the 10 is the one that's going to stand out the most because it's the most like off. But the edges of the others are all pretty close compared to like the Canadian versions of that slash the international versions of that, you know. So it's the most minor. Right up there. Right up there. Yeah. There's even an even better.
Starting point is 00:45:17 That one's against the American. But it has two twenties. It's true. All right. So we're just looking. I'm just Googling Canadian money now. And like, you know, it's fried week over your eyes, your eyes and you know, you can still count that, you know, I guess what, we don't know who most of these people are
Starting point is 00:45:38 either. I just pulled a 50 out of my wall. I had to check who was on it because I don't know who the fuck they are. Oh, it's Mackenzie Kay. It doesn't matter. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's like who's on the hundred.
Starting point is 00:45:51 I haven't seen a hundred dollar bill in over a long time. Yeah. I genuinely don't because you know, you know what it is, dude, you know what it is? You know what it is? Imagine if people were going like, okay, yeah, monopoly money, LOL and so on. But it doesn't feel like monopoly money. It's the American money feels like monopoly money. You can't rip this.
Starting point is 00:46:13 It's part. It's plastic. The sun can melt it over time, sometimes in weird situations where it's really crumpled, but it can't be ripped. It's like, imagine, here's here, here's here, here's what I'm going with. Okay. What you got? This color system is autocomplete, right?
Starting point is 00:46:31 For anyone out there that doesn't understand, this is autocomplete. The name sounds familiar, but I don't know. So this, this, this, this funky color money that's so weird is autocomplete when you're walking up to a cash, when you're dealing with day to day life, it's just, oh, it's right there. Bam. You type the first couple of words you want and then you just scroll to the thing and you press it.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Right. So not having it is just not having $35. Yeah. Right. And it's like, you just, I just, you need to understand. I know it's what you're used to. I get it. It's Fahrenheit.
Starting point is 00:47:09 You like it. You've been, you've been conditioned. The thing I know from I was born is better, but it's just, you know, you're asking for a browser without autocomplete. So Robert Borden's the world war one prime minister. Oh, got it. Okay. Got it.
Starting point is 00:47:25 Rough, rough time. That's it. That's all you see. Do you see him believe? I love it. Like it's to count. Right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:47:34 Matt, how much is the same picture? How do you remember what was like on the $2? Oh God. No, like an animal, wasn't it a duck? No, they all have, they all have some kind of bullshit on the back. Like the back of the hundreds about insulin and diabetes and shit. Yeah. But anyway, um, yeah, you see this call.
Starting point is 00:47:58 You see these colors? I will say from a distance that to American eyes, I understand how scary and foreign it was. Very foreign. It's very scary. In fact, it's probably triggering all kinds of like, like little thoughts are like, that's not real money. Yeah, I get that.
Starting point is 00:48:13 That doesn't look real. Like I said, I'm like, when I think of money in my head, I think of just green. Because that's what, yeah. Well, because that's what we're fucking. You know, that's what we're conditioned to bug me about American money. It's not as green as I thought it would be. Oh, you want, you want that Canadian tire green? Well, it's just like that stupid grinning fake TV.
Starting point is 00:48:33 When you grow up as a little kid and you watch American TV and money is like fucking green. Yeah. That's a sweater that Drake would wear. And then we're looking at a sweater full of money and then you get to real American money and that's like tan with the green accent kind of like it's greenish. Yeah. So, so if auto complete was in a color that you didn't like, let's say the bar that drops down as a really ugly brown, you're like, would you, would you, would you rather have
Starting point is 00:49:01 the feature or would you just be like, no, I don't like that auto complete brown? You know, that's the brown color for the hundred. I will admit that's kind of a little garish. Oh, for sure. But would you rather have the ability to distinguish on a heartbeat? I mean, yes, the issue there is they use the good colors for the ones you're more likely to use. So green, purple and blue.
Starting point is 00:49:23 True enough. Yeah. And I love taking Canadians on the fucked up trip that is looking at New Zealand money on New Zealand money because it's so close to ours. It's almost the size of their notes is much the discrepancy is much larger than ours. Like New Zealand notes, like the smaller the bill is like the less it's worth. Yeah. That's them.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Then they're there. I almost said deaf people. That doesn't make sense. So for you audio folks, it's just a Google search, New Zealand money, Canadian money and American money. And that's what we're doing. Australians don't have notes. They just have I use for crime.
Starting point is 00:50:02 I owe you crime. I owe you one crime. OK. So like it's a bartering system like the only thing you're bartering is with crime. I will fight your kangaroo in the death pit. If you get me, that's probably a national sport. If you give me 30 barrels of grog. So yeah, man, you know, that was that was New York.
Starting point is 00:50:22 All like nothing, nothing else really to it, except for just fucking in and out. I played a shit ton more of Hollow Knight on the way there. And it's coming out. Dude, as soon as you started to talk about Hollow Knight, just my Twitter mentioned, started to explode with, you know, Hollow Knight's like the greatest game of all time, right? It's amazing, but it's so long. I really war DLC is coming for it.
Starting point is 00:50:49 I keep thinking that I'm approaching some sort of milestone. And he said that last time I got a question. Somebody mentioned to me that the game seems to be built around punishing you and I for our avoidance of the critical path. You have any idea what that that means? Is the critical path in that game like weird or obviosquetted or is there one? There barely is one. That would explain the panic, the progression point,
Starting point is 00:51:15 the progression I've made has been entirely based on wandering into a new area. And I beat a boss in this area. Therefore, I assume I'm strong enough to handle this area. Yeah. And then wander into another area, wail on the first thing in there. Oh, this is taking five minutes. Time to back out. And I didn't get that impression when we played played it for a video at all.
Starting point is 00:51:39 It seemed like it was just like, here you go. The real and seemed like there was a critical path. The real ridiculous thing that I still can't get over is like how much I feel like I'm I feel like I'm far in. And I'm looking at the map and the map looks complete. Yeah, right. It looks complete. And then a little wander here, a little fucking look behind the wall there
Starting point is 00:52:03 and entirely new zones are being added onto the map. And I'm like, what? Where let me ask you, I'm not personally super familiar with the map. Does it have like a mini map or a world map or anything that you can actually look at and scroll around? Yes. OK. Super Metroid. Are you talking about you? You hit right on the analog stick and you hit the edge and you're like, great. And then you walk into a room and now the edge just moves over like five inches.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Think about Super Metroid and how all those shade, how those colored zones fit together into a complete shape. Yeah. And you're like, yeah, got it. And then stuff just starts sticking out the edges. And then it's creating new negative spaces where there would logically have to be more in ways where I'm like, oh, my God, like this thing is huge and you always just wander until there's either a hard wall blocking you, an ability you don't have yet.
Starting point is 00:52:56 And then you have to just go, OK, now I beat this boss, I got that ability. Try to try to remember where those things were. You know, and then the map has the markers that you manually place down to remember where, like, you know, your previous blockers where you're like, oh, but now I got the double jump, I can go up that place and then you get a zone. There's a little thing, too, that's I guess this is a modern day video game thing where you play a game and I, you know, I didn't know too much about the origins of Hollow Knight, but what's the kickstart?
Starting point is 00:53:26 Well, here, this is where I'm going, right? So I'm playing a game that I'm just like, I heard this is good and I purchase and buy, you know, and you don't know too much about where it came from or the origins. And at a point in the game, you'd be like, I wander into a room where there are like a big wall with a bunch of little portraits or names. So you wander into a graveyard and there's all these custom bug looking like other characters and it takes a couple, right?
Starting point is 00:53:52 I'm like, I go a couple steps more and they're each these NPCs and I'm talking and I'm like, and then you're like, you get to the second level and you see more and you go back a room, back a room. But like not knowing what the game was until that point, it's a weird moment because you're like really trying to like figure out what this is and what the point of this is and there's almost never a point. I've got one for you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:20 If you somehow managed to dodge the fact that Pillars One is a Kickstarter game, you get to a graveyard and their gravestones very similar, but they're spread out. There's like 10 backers per gravestone. They're all over the place and then you hit them. And they're like these little like two line things about a third of which have horrible spelling errors because they were just looked over for bullshit and then thrown in and are just like nonsensical, like trash, like forum host level bad crap in it.
Starting point is 00:54:49 And you're just like, whoa, that's thankfully everything here is designed to buy like the bugs are all within world, you know, designed like they're designed by the artist and the things they say are all like within world accurate as well. Like nothing feels too out of place. And they're like, you kind of know that, like, you fucking hit a bug that's got an eye patch and a giant nail on its back. And it's like, you don't have the guts to face me.
Starting point is 00:55:20 And it's like, yeah, this is the fucking backer. What a creature. All right. I have a dark soul and I'm known to go berserk in battle. Try to think not us, but some somebody else that has no idea what's going on. Just buy shovel nine. They're like, who the fuck is this idiot with a whip? Like, what a lame, lame character.
Starting point is 00:55:39 And that's and that's like we like we've gone behind the curtain before, but it's like the number one concern every time we do our dumb fucking bad thing is like, OK, but will this ruin the video game? Oh, no, I haven't thought of that. Like so I integrated it like perfectly. Yeah, it's it's a dive kick. No, it's a conversation. It's a conversation with the devs about like, OK, no, but seriously,
Starting point is 00:56:01 like how will this play out? And indivisible is fantastic. I think that's going to be fucking great. Fuck my phone. Just at the fucking answer to your question. Automatically, OK, the question of this ruins the video game. And I answered a bunch of YouTube videos. Wow. Well, it it it's a yeah, you just have that moment where you go,
Starting point is 00:56:27 OK, this is a Kickstarter game. This is a backer room. And and up until that point, I had no idea, you know. So you kind of go, well, this game probably doesn't even matter. All right, I'm sorry. This this room probably doesn't even matter that much. And yeah, you're correct. Oh, no, but the final boss is in there now.
Starting point is 00:56:43 There is a fucker that is in there. That's tough. That can fight you. But you're yeah, it's very if you like to have shovel night at it. Very optional. Or it's nice, a little optional thing in the old secret thing. Man, this fucking game, though, like I just really want to go out of my way to recommend it like officially again and and just say like it's a stamp of approval, it's like and it's books.
Starting point is 00:57:06 So you don't you need to use your eye dropper to play it again after we played it months and months ago, the fact that it was that good. And I just never got around to it. OK, it was it was on the list. And that's right in your house. You know, when I say the list, like it's like a bullshit. No, like a big chalkboard next to your bed that just grows every day. I mean, I used to use physical.
Starting point is 00:57:28 No, I used to use the site back loggery. Yeah, we all I yeah, I really needed that. And I just stopped using it. That was the single reason why I got on Facebook. Yeah, was to go over the back loggery and talk about to my friends about it, besides also getting invited to events and not knowing the details, because my friends were like, fuck, you make a Facebook to find out. So we all had everybody I knew that was way into games.
Starting point is 00:57:53 I think the first person to start using it was was Schmuck God, Pat. Yeah, everybody used back loggery and then everyone stopped using back loggery. Yeah, and everyone had their own reason, but they were all pretty similar. And my reason, and I'm sure you guys can emulate this to a degree was this is only helping me see how large the problem is. Yes. And I it is making me not play them because there are too many. There is a crippling anxiety that comes from the choice to just open it up
Starting point is 00:58:25 and put in every time, because I'd go to like a game store. I went to a game store this weekend and I'm like staring at a game. I'm like, I think I have this, but I don't know for that site made me feel good because I tricked out my the page because you can customize your designs and stuff. And like I got picked for the back loggery of the month. What I what I did. So I was like, yeah, they like it. And I'm like, oh, they like it.
Starting point is 00:58:48 Instantly abandoned. Yeah, well, no, I kept it up for a bit. And then, you know, I added my steam list to it. And then. Oh, fuck you. And then I never used it. That's the that's the 100 percent killer. Yeah, there's no chance you're going to fucking keep up with your sheet list. Each shit. But that's back when steam sales were good,
Starting point is 00:59:08 where your list jumped from like 50 to 200. What what does help is like times like now. So usually right now, my girls going through persona and she's usually using the PS4. So I'm like, all right, let me see what is on another console that I haven't gotten around to, right? You know, I have a suggestion for you in my side. Well, do you get there really good?
Starting point is 00:59:32 Thanks, Pat, I'm sorry. Or are you saying, when I so like in like last night, for example, I grabbed the Octopath. All right. And well, yeah, I downloaded that. I haven't started yet. Yeah. So there's there's there's this weekend was also like fucking, you know, combined with those those depressing posts about people going like, oh, my God, full price for a pixel game games.
Starting point is 00:59:57 It's like, you know, I know that that whole discussion should make this $15 because it didn't take a lot of effort to make. Here's what I will say in Canada. When you click that buy button, it's 9147. It turns into 9147 and you go, OK. Yeah, that's money. Yeah. Um, $90 for Octopath in Canada, folks, that's kind of nuts.
Starting point is 01:00:22 Or if you buy like an Xbox or PS4 game with the season pass, you see 179. So, yeah. So fuck those people that go, fuck, picking pixel art games, whatever, stupid. You're you're just dumb. You just don't get it. Like you're having a conversation that you don't have the variables for. You just it's, you know what I mean? Like it's and then you get into the further the rebuttals and the things.
Starting point is 01:00:45 And it's like, yes, OK, it is not 3D. Therefore, it is by default inferior. That's your mentality. Right. Goodbye. Except it totally is by and except it totally is 3D. And those model, those those sprites are actually models that are specially created confirmed. Uh, I thought that was confirmed because I was playing it.
Starting point is 01:01:04 I didn't know that I was playing it this weekend and I looked at it and I looked at how lighting was hitting one of them. It's like, is that a thin 3D model? Well, it's definitely it's definitely an in it's definitely a card in world where it's not being displayed as much as it is being called as a as a it's a polygon. Like, yeah, you know what I mean? At the very least.
Starting point is 01:01:23 So it's the same way that like sprites and King of Fighters 12 and 13 were affected by lighting because they were being displayed in the real world. You know, they weren't just being like rather they're being displayed in the 3D environment. Excuse me. So anyway, um, the, uh, yeah, the fucking price point that we hit, though, is like kind of nuts, considering like a lot of shit I've bought recently was not $91 Canadian.
Starting point is 01:01:52 Um, but, but I haven't booted it up yet. So I didn't get a chance at it, but I'm hearing mixed reviews. I'm not too sure. Did any of you guys get to try it? I was hearing it's like people are like the stories are all structured very similarly. That's what I heard. You're doing the same thing.
Starting point is 01:02:05 The stories are different. It's just that they're always in the same kind of like way that they're designed and some of the battle stuff. I haven't gotten into that. Some of the battle stuff is like people are like not understanding how it works and some of those people are like, Oh, I never played bravely default. So they're like, well, it works a little like bravely default. Have you, have you tried it yet?
Starting point is 01:02:24 No. Octopath. Yeah. Like I said before, I downloaded it. I haven't loaded it up. So that's all I've heard. Blew my entire weekend on it. Okay.
Starting point is 01:02:30 Then I want to, I want to hear, I want to hear some of that. That's the game I was going to recommend to you. If your girlfriend's using the PS4, yeah, it's like grab your source, play Octopath. Yeah, it's, it's, I made space for it for sure. I'm just going to run and use the bathroom, but I'll tag in on that and fucking. Yeah. Well, let's, let's leave that because I want, I want everyone to be here for
Starting point is 01:02:49 that Octopath shit because there's a lot. That's that game's good. Hey, Matt, do you have anything that Willie doesn't care about? Do you want to talk about? No, well, he cares about all my, I had to do that. Antics. Oh, antics. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:02 I was going to say a more complicated word, but I'll just take a short cut and take antics. Oh, man. Um, but you know, I'll, I'll, I'll say, uh, something, um, since he doesn't care about horror movies, I saw, I saw hereditary. I have heard some, some fucking good shit about hereditary. Paige went and saw it and really liked it. Hereditary is pretty good, but like it's weird.
Starting point is 01:03:26 It was like way, way, way too long where I'm like scenes are just going by where I'm like, all right. All right. So the kind of movie where then there'll be a scene where I'm like, whoa, it just likes to sit in a scene for like 10 minutes. It's not so much that it's just like, there's some weird shit going on, like dark old God stuff. But in between that, it's just a lot of family drama where like nothing
Starting point is 01:03:52 particularly scary or interesting is happening. And those are the scenes where it just, it kind of makes the thing drag a little bit, but still overall, it was still really good. And like we were saying on the, I think the podcast last week to Willie's credit, it's like, oh, I heard that doesn't have a lot of jump scares. No, it really doesn't. There's like maybe one or two, but they're not done in the like soundscape building, building, building, nothing.
Starting point is 01:04:15 Then yeah, you know, it doesn't really have that type of stuff. So it was, it was, it was interesting. But I'll also understand why audiences gave it like super poor reviews because you do not come out of this feeling good at all. That is the universal thing that I've heard about it from everyone that I've talked to is that they came out feeling like shit. You have any family stress or trauma in your family. There'll be something in this movie for you.
Starting point is 01:04:41 Everybody's got something. Yeah. Oh, I saw it. I saw it whilst whilst away. And yeah, it was it was really weird when you come out of the theater and you're like kind of a little, little like jangled, a little your nerves are a little high on edge. And you hear explosions all around you because the the place that we're in Rosemont, Illinois, had decided to have a fireworks festival
Starting point is 01:05:08 on a random Thursday. That's odd. So as soon as we came out of the theater after seeing hereditary explosions everywhere, like really loud fireworks. And I'm like, OK, I guess didn't get them all out on the fourth. Maybe not. It was it was the 12th of July. I don't know what was going on. We bought all these goddamn fireworks and we're going to use them.
Starting point is 01:05:29 It's all right. Well, we're done with like your I was done. OK, yeah, I was done. I was done. And to Willie's interest, though, I did see Isle of Dogs. Finally, I heard it. Hereditary is good. Yes. OK. But it was too long. And it'll make you feel bad.
Starting point is 01:05:40 A lot of two and a half. It was like, yeah, two and a half. It did not need to be like two fifty. And if you have any. Oh, sorry, one fifty. Family shenanigans that will make you feel bad. I've got a couple of family shenanigans. Everyone has family shenanigans.
Starting point is 01:05:54 Yeah. Everyone's got at least at least that great aunt that might be a Satanist. This is grandma. Yeah. So yeah, I saw Isle of I saw Isle of Dogs on the plane. New. And you saw it a few. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:06:12 What do you think? I prefer Fantastic Mr. Fox just because it's a more crazy over the top world of talking animals. Did you get? What is your count on on? Eyes welling up with tears, but not actually crying twice. Once very early on. To do with the main story between the dog that is lost
Starting point is 01:06:36 and the boy Atari that's trying to find him on the Isle of Dogs. And once in a really random time where scientists are looking for the cure to the dog fever. That is like one of the main story components of this film. And they do the tests. Then they do another test. They do another test. And then there's like Kampai and they're all
Starting point is 01:06:57 celebrating and I started welling up a little bit for some reason. Well, so I don't understand. So the one thing about that movie is that it Pavlov trains you by having the characters do that a lot. Yeah, their eyes constantly well with tears and then don't. And because people I think they almost it's almost like West has realized that when you show people that they go, oh, you know, it's it's like a fucking chill. Deco, it's not exactly like tears falling.
Starting point is 01:07:22 Has less meaning now than tears almost falling. Yeah. Yeah. So they abuse you in this movie with sometimes they'll wipe them away before they're even really there and you're like, OK, you see the eyes like you see the fucking what is it, the twinkling? You know, but yeah, and overall I really enjoyed it. But I kind of prefer Fantastic Mr. Fox a little bit and it's a funnier movie.
Starting point is 01:07:44 It's a funnier movie, but it's less it's less whimsical. I did particularly care for the white girl that was in the high school. Yeah, I was like, that's a little I did like all the ways that they because she's there to they need more English to be spoken aside from the dogs. But I loved all the ways they got around. It wasn't a genius with a translator that's in a newsroom that's watching the evil mayor Kobayashi talk.
Starting point is 01:08:11 Yeah, I love how he's a Yakuza. Yeah, cats. Yeah, cats are all these Yakuza bosses. Like that was not in any of the amazing, amazing. And subtitling without subtitling is the best. And then there's just full on scenes where people are speaking Japanese. But because the movie was so good at telling the story up to that point, you just know they're arguing about this because I was told about this.
Starting point is 01:08:32 So there's like like two or three full scenes where people are going back and forth in Japanese with no subtitles. Yeah, you understand what's going on. And I mean, like I was picking out words that, you know, I was like, OK, I know what that means. I know what that means. And like I saw like I get getting the gist of the conversation. And like it was it like even without it, I can like, yeah, without that piece of information, you still understand because the tone
Starting point is 01:08:54 carries the message. And like it's I don't think I've not enjoyed a West Anderson movie. I know they're all largely the same and they all have the same aesthetic. I have I have there's not been one where I like I disliked it. Yeah, same year, various levels of like. But I had the lowest on the I have a lowest on the totem pole and a higher on the totem pole kind of ones, the claymation ones are fucking way up there for me. Is the one that you're just like, yeah, there is what fucking Steve Zeissu.
Starting point is 01:09:22 Yes, a lot of people like that one. But I wasn't aquatic life, the aquatic life of Steve. It was really just not my cup of tea on there. That's kind of there. Like Moonrise Kingdom is also a little bit there. But like it's I liked it better. But like Grand Budapest Hotel, Grand Budapest, God, what's the other one? Tenenbaum's Darjeeling Limited.
Starting point is 01:09:48 No, there's another one I saw. Jesus. Anyway, yeah, I saw that. And as a complete also total opposite, I watched Tomb Raider, the new reboot movie on the way back. Wait, what? When did that happen? Did I just completely miss that happened in March? Did you also? Oh, that came out in March marketing bad.
Starting point is 01:10:11 It did all right. I think how old how'd the movie do? I think I'm wrong. Tomatoes have some like a 50, 60 percent. That's a quarter. Having watched it myself. That's probably in the top 10 of these are the good video game movies. It's better than the Angelina Jolie ones.
Starting point is 01:10:29 Yeah, well, that's not a it's not a hard metric. But what I liked about it is that it made some really smart changes over the game reboot story, because it's the same story. Yeah, but a the USS stereotype is gone. So Larry doesn't have this Japanese friend that is so obviously going to play Himiko. Yeah, Himiko is just the death goddess that's in and she doesn't have the that trainer mentor guy
Starting point is 01:10:59 that that she has to save early on his name. But yeah, voiced by a come on. I forget every single one of the characters now. Now it's Jonah. Jonah is not so cool. Jonah made it, right? Jonah made it, but he's OK. I remember Jonah, but not his name. And I remember Sam and they also get around Lara killing a guy
Starting point is 01:11:20 freaking out and then killing a zillion guys with no problem. That's easy to do in the movie, because she kills like three dudes in general. And when she kills the first guy, she's doing it in a scene where she's grappling with him in mud. And he's like, this is a guy that wants to live specifically on Lara. Yeah. And she kills this guy, whatever, in a spot that harkens back to an earlier scene where she's just training in a boxing gym and some girl kicks her ass in the ring with the exact same move.
Starting point is 01:11:48 And then she's just like, oh, I've now learned what I learned before and I'll apply it here because I'm going to die if I don't. And then she never picks up a gun for the rest of me. Doesn't take an AK and start mowing down 50 dudes like she does in the game. So she rates to. So in the in the game, it really felt like she was traumatized by murder and then learned that that traumatization was that she loves murder based on how she acts throughout the rest of the game.
Starting point is 01:12:17 Combined, combined with the fact that the number of people in her way to be mowed down is like four or five hundred. So in each increasing fortress, it just becomes a like there are a hundred people trying to kill you here, Lara. Evil force in this movie is like a dozen guys. That's it. Yeah, a lot of shipwrecks on that island, which again, Liam and I just sat and went, man, if this game just had like 20 individuals that were sophisticated and tough and tough and you had to beat
Starting point is 01:12:48 them back into their own corners of the island and whatnot, robot master style. That would have been so much better as a survival cult game. Overall, the wallets like a 50 is because there's nothing outstandingly unique or crazy or never seen before. It's like these are standard Indiana Jones traps or uncharted traps. These are, you know, things I've seen a kind of a couple of times in other similar movies. So it was it was it was good, but like it's not immediately memorable. But like it's it's a better video game adaptation than I've seen in a long time.
Starting point is 01:13:18 So yeah, it's insulated by the failures of the past. Right. Like to some degree. Plus, the girl is really good as Lara actually. Really, really the actress. She was a vikender. She was the robot in Ex Machina. So she did a really good job in that. Like she felt really like she didn't feel like an action figure that's just going
Starting point is 01:13:39 pow pow or whatever, like Angelina Angel, Angelina Angelina. Is there a tomb that gets raided in this movie? Yes, there is. Good. This guy specifically go the skulls of her enemies. We got to get out of this tomb so we can get the fuck off this island because my employer won't let me off until I find it. Good. And Lara's like, I'll I'll I'll help you, I guess. Or whatever. But I know I enjoyed it.
Starting point is 01:14:02 And she's got the the claw hook thing that she does get it. It's presented like a lightsaber. The camera zooms in on it. It's the new. It's the new signature. The climbing hook. The climbing hook. The little red. That is like a scythe. Yeah. Yeah. From from from fucking dual pistols to like scythe pick murder weapon.
Starting point is 01:14:22 And if you didn't barely saw any of the movie, Nick Frost is in there. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a small role, but he's there. So it's that was I don't imagine he's Nick Frosting it up. Yes, he is. Oh, yeah. You don't you don't you don't hire Nick Frost and not having Nick Frost it up. You frost it up anyway. So yeah, while I was in Illinois, I went to G Fest.
Starting point is 01:14:45 Not much to say about that other than that. My panel rent really well, but we're kind of in a holding pattern of there's no new Godzilla shit out quite yet, except for Godzilla being announced. We're celebrating my hero. Yeah, so Godzilla, the Japanese pro hero that moved to America. Everyone freaking out going, how is this possible? And then when people are like, well, Toho owns my hero. OK, I haven't so I haven't seen that episode or whatever it's from.
Starting point is 01:15:11 It's a it's from a shot from the upcoming movie. Oh, it's a movie character where it's just common across Godzilla. Have you seen what Godzilla looks like? I've seen the picture. It's totally absurd. Yeah, it's amazing. He does everything in Godzilla. So unfortunately, when something gets announced that early,
Starting point is 01:15:28 there's no shit to buy of it. So but my panel went well, which is about non Godzilla, Godzilla games. So War of the Monsters, King of the Monsters, stuff like that. But it was fun. Hopefully I can put like a video version of it soon. And we had a meet up at Galloping Ghost Arcade. Max just and the Ovidian gang group happened to just be like, we're going to go to Galloping Ghost Arcade probably around Simmons's birthday.
Starting point is 01:15:54 What happened to be the same weekend as as me going to G Fest. So we all met up there. We're on the street. Yeah. Some motherfucking combatants showed up. I think Kenny has them on the short. In his basement. Yeah. These original actors from Mortal Kombat on speed dial. And he just says, hey, you get some sunlight.
Starting point is 01:16:19 Let's go. Calls him up from his basement, makes him travel around with him. So, yeah, the guy that played Jax, the guy that played Johnny Cage, the guy that played Shang Tsung, the Mortal Kombat, too. Dude, it was so hard not to go up to the actor that played Johnny Cage and say, have you switched to Bloodstorm? Hey, because the Bloodstorm Cabinet, dude, that would have been a sore point. It would have. So second, I bet you you're not the only one. It's right there. I think he was standing near it, too.
Starting point is 01:16:50 So what do you think? Kenny gets on the phone and goes, we need to beat those best friend guys at something. Maybe I can pull the ringers. Kenny. No, but Kenny marks out for the original M.K. Crew, though. Like, it's his favorite thing. Crazy. He's super in like at like at this point. Like, I feel like, yeah, he's got them on speed dial. Like, that's that's that's nuts.
Starting point is 01:17:13 Who also showed up just randomly showed up was one of the creators of Rampage, Brian Collin, who was just there just hanging out. You'll Galloping Ghost. What's up? I'm here and I got a picture with him. So that was kind of a thrill. And we all hear these great stories when we meet up with fans sometimes. But I got I got one that that hit pretty hard where, unfortunately, he only said his name once, so I don't remember him.
Starting point is 01:17:37 But I I'll remember him forever now, where like a young fellow came up and said, well, a few years ago, I was having bone cancer. Oh. But fortunately, in my out like like months of recovery, I was watching your guys' videos and thanks so much. And I like your side channel. Always, always fucking awesome. He brought his dad with him. And usually dad situations, I always have.
Starting point is 01:18:00 I always feel like this melancholy type, like you don't know why you're here. Your son really likes this stuff. And I always have this weird feeling like like the the parents always lost. Like, but my my son or my child loved this stuff. But this guy was super into it. And he was like, yeah, no, my son loves you guys. You guys are great, blah, blah, blah. And he goes, we wanted to thank you and says, I am a prop master on a movie on movies.
Starting point is 01:18:27 I've had my son meet Bruce Willis when he was five and give a shit about him. He loves you guys, though. And that means so much. I worked on Spider-Man 2 when it was filming in Chicago. Do you want this daily bugle front cover that we used in the movie? Holy shit. And it's one of the paper like rollouts of Spider-Man, menace to city.
Starting point is 01:18:49 I have it in my card. You want me to go get I'm like, oh, yes. Wow, that's so rolled up with that. And I have it at home now. I'm going to probably frame it because you probably frame it. I think that's a good idea. I fucking marked out to that because it was just like, yeah, classics. I think it was from Spider-Man 2 specifically.
Starting point is 01:19:08 Like, yeah, Spider-Man, Spider-Man 2. No, Spider-Man, the menace. And I was like, wow, that's super cool. Like, thank you so much. So thank you to that son and dad tag team is very, very nice. As you say, the photo thing, it just reminds me because there's like so many moments because at this weekend with like the festival, I'm just like, oh, there's that comedian I love and have listened to hours of.
Starting point is 01:19:30 I don't want to be there. I'll just leave him be. I know he's getting a smoke. I'm not going to, you know, I'm just going to walk by him real close, just leaning in just once that with a comedy. I was just like, let me just want to get the handshake. You know, that was that was good enough. But the that's a fucking pole, dude.
Starting point is 01:19:48 That's amazing. Yeah, I was just out of nowhere. Like, yeah, like I forgot that. Remember that Spider-Man 2 filmed like one part in New York, one part Chicago because they're pretty interchangeable cities and stuff. I also finally had a good example of deep dish pizza. The only time I'd ever have as one. Not the airport version in the air in the airport like two years ago.
Starting point is 01:20:09 And I had this shitty deep dish pizza and we went to a place called DJ Rihanna, it's a place where you sit down. They're like, it's going to be 15 minutes. If you want, you can pre-order your pizza. And I'm like, sorry, GameStop. And if you want, you can pre-order your pizza because they take 45 minutes to cook, preload the cheese. So you go over to a table.
Starting point is 01:20:30 You're like, this is what I want. And like, do you want a pizza? All we do is pre-order the pizzas because they take it. Everything else takes like 10 minutes. So, OK, I'll have a deep dish pizza with like bacon or whatever. I'm sitting down there for a while. Well, it took less time. It took maybe half an hour.
Starting point is 01:20:46 And like, yeah, it was really good, but it doesn't taste like pizza. It tastes like a weird. Pasta like Italian dish I've never had before. It's a pie. Cheese pie. It's just a pie, really. And it was cool. And now I'm glad I had it, but I'm not sure if I'd order it again. I'm like, I just kind of prefer regular pizza.
Starting point is 01:21:05 And then like a few days later, we just ordered regular pizza. Oh, fuck. The other damn. The other really crazy final thing is that we met a really cool family met last year again, Samantha. And she goes, yeah, yeah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, well, you know, I mean, my last name is like, my last name is really Polish. It's this. And I was like, that's pretty Polish in the other spectrum,
Starting point is 01:21:25 like because there's skis. And then there's like other words that you can barely say. Yeah. And she's like, well, Chicago has the highest population of Polish people in one city ever. And I'm like, more than more than Warsaw. Yeah. Like, yes. What? More than Poland in general. But in terms of a major metropolitan city,
Starting point is 01:21:45 there's more Polish people living in Chicago than is in Warsaw. Wow. And I was like, OK, I'm like, you have a Polish name. That's one piece of evidence. So as I'm spending America puts up the numbers. Exactly. As I'm spending the weekend there, I'm like, we're like driving by places and I see I see Credit Union of Poland on the side of the street. And then I'm looking at a Google map and it says Old Warsaw Buffett. I'm like, OK, she's right.
Starting point is 01:22:12 She's right. That's so that's super crazy to me. And I never heard that before that weekend. I mean, it's like when you hit Chinatown in Toronto or I hear Vancouver, Vancouver. You're like, oh, I'm in China, China, like you like. English are the closest you could get. Yeah, English English signage disappears. China, quote unquote, town starts from here and it goes over the horizon and kind of the horizon and kind of touches London, Ontario over there.
Starting point is 01:22:39 You can drive for a while and still be in Chinatown, whereas here it's like confined to four by four city blocks. I remember the original erections for that place we went to back in 2008 was it's an arcade in Chinatown in Toronto. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then we went, oh, yeah, sure. Yeah, but no, really. But really, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because because again, the differences are our power amount between in Montreal,
Starting point is 01:23:06 where Montreal was like, here's these elaborate, beautiful dragon gates that were gifted for two blocks that were gifting to Chinatown. Put them up here and we put the other one up there. Don't you dare fucking do not go over the line. This will create the ethnicity field, right? Do not fucking exit. You can walk out of it, but no businesses. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:33 And it's just and so it is then turned in on itself and redoubled. And there are five stores in a single, like one one shop building, you know, like vertical, verticality is the solution. But they're only they don't go above three stories. The end of the ethnicity field is strong. But that's what Montreal did. And Toronto just went, fuck it. Aside from that, Galloping Ghost, I finally finally got to play tattoo assassins.
Starting point is 01:23:59 Oh, which for anyone that knows anything about Galloping Ghost, they have lots of games that never released. So tattoos. It's really bad. Like I say that it does one thing that's better than any mortal combat ever. I don't know the fatalities. Did you match them out? No, don't worry. All you have to do is uppercut and that will always result in a fatality.
Starting point is 01:24:19 If you don't know the fatalities, one of twenty five, one of twenty five. Per carol gets something. So that's cool. And something that I have now decided, if we have no other game to play this week for Fisticuffs, we have to play the outfoxies. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I never played it before this weekend.
Starting point is 01:24:39 And I'm like, this is way more insane than I realized. Oh, it's amazing. I actually I brought that up a while ago as not Fisticuffs. But yeah, absolutely, man. Because yeah, didn't it's always great. Watched a couple of videos like after playing. I'm watching Fred play. I was watching Fred play that. Oh, it was true.
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Starting point is 01:31:36 Thanks for the tag in based on the time. I'm sorry. Sorry. Sorry. All right. So whatever I beat pillars to, I'm going to skim over that. A couple of thoughts. It's really good. OK. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's very good. My only piece of big advice to everybody playing that game is the game really desperate, like everyone in the game tells you there are four factions. They keep telling you, hey, pick a side, hey, pick a side.
Starting point is 01:31:59 But if you get all the way to the end and you decide that you don't want to pick any of those sides, there is the max out your boat and sail into the storm by yourself option. Don't do that. Don't it results in a disastrous set of endings for literally every single possible thing in the game, no matter how well you do. Yes. OK. It essentially creates a power vacuum in a world war. And that's probably not what you wanted to have.
Starting point is 01:32:22 Well, the problem with that is that get other games that allow that. I interpret those as like, I don't want any of these to become the dominant force or whatever. I want to go my own way. And in say, New Vegas, you are somewhat rewarded for that. Here you are harshly, harshly, harshly punished and not picking anything leads to a way worse outcome than even picking murderous pirates. So I say so sometimes silence is not an answer.
Starting point is 01:32:52 Yeah, so fucking pick that answer. Yeah, OK, the other thing is that it is fascinating that that game's final boss fight is a conversation. That's oh, that's appealing. The whole and and the game treats it as such in that the final sequence you sail into a thing and it says, hey, this is the point of no return. And it does, you know, you get your little auto save that says pre-end game on it. And then you have a actual boss fight that is clearly the final boss.
Starting point is 01:33:23 And then you beat it. And then the game has about 40 minutes after that, in which for the past 10 hours, almost every character in the game has been telling you, boy, you're really going to have to give that person a talking to. Don't fuck that up. Really, don't fuck it up. And then the final like half hour of the game is a conversation. That's really cool.
Starting point is 01:33:45 And it's it's really satisfying. That's incredible. I like the sound of that a lot. That's fucking rad. Oh, that's all I really have to say. I can't think of anything else that like sets that up. And then does it? Yeah. There's usually like a partial conversation.
Starting point is 01:33:59 Usually you beat the boss and then they go, ah, fuck you. Or the closest thing with your your your mass effect one or your, you know, nature of a man and so on. But that's that nice. OK, there's a bunch of DLC that's coming. So I'll give it a second pass in like a year and a half from now, because they're putting out three expansions. So it'll be probably like twice as long.
Starting point is 01:34:23 Yeah, I remember it. I'm just realizing I'm like, that's fucking. That's just talk. That's video game. You're pointing the WrestleMania sign says just talk. And no, yeah, you reach everyone in your party pointing at your decision. That's great. Talk to them. I love that if in human revolution, you could have done that as an option, but yeah, you can't fall out had that fall out three had that problem
Starting point is 01:34:46 to the nth degree where any of you guys play fall. You did, man. I beat it. You beat it. Remember when you talk to Fox and you're like, go into the fucking chamber that you're immune to. Yeah. And turn the fucking thing off is like, oh, I wouldn't steal your moment in history or whatever the fuck stupid. Oh, I guess I'll just die then, Fox.
Starting point is 01:35:03 Thanks a lot. I do like the line. Like, I won't steal your moment in history. That's kind of funny. Fuck, that was the worst on Octopath. So what about start with anyone? Yes, you start with anyone. OK, and that that determines of the tone of a huge proportion of your early game.
Starting point is 01:35:23 And the other thing is that so every character has their four chapters, which is their personalized story. There's no main overarching plot of any kind in this game. You are stuck with the character you chose until you complete their storyline. Once you do that, you can then mix and match to your heart's content. So really think about it. This game is amazing. And it's one of the weirdest games I've played in years
Starting point is 01:35:49 because of what it's it's trying to be like five different influences that should be wildly disparate and awful together. So like the visuals and like what you were talking about people looking at. Oh, it's a sprite based game. So should so it the sprites are supposed to be high res versions or not high res, they're supposed to be. They're supposed to be final fantasy six sprites blown up to the size of Secret of Evermore sprites, if anybody remembers that fucking game.
Starting point is 01:36:21 And it's in a tales slash Xeno gears, like PS one or fantasy tactics. Yeah, like 3D background with the most aggressive level of special effects I have ever seen in anything because they figured. Well, we can make it pretty here in this like realm of special effects and hit sparks and shit like needless to say the game was striking when we all first saw the like a couple seconds of it on stage. Like years ago, it was like, what the fuck is that? That does not look anything like every other small pixel based game
Starting point is 01:36:59 that we saw coming out. So when I talk about the special effects, it has the strongest depth of field I've ever seen. Yeah, anything outside of your immediate plane, like the 2D like access you'd be on and say like a final fight is blurred out to nonsense. It is unrecognizable other than blur and shadow and light, which seems to work well in dungeon atmospheres.
Starting point is 01:37:22 Oh, we're great. The lighting effects and shadow effects are better than some PC games. The the one that's really bizarre is the physics on the shitty looking trees. OK, so you have your 16 bit looking trees. But the trees are on their 2D plane, modeled like a sheet of paper and they also have the vertical slice of the tree, you know, that one that it would look like like a plus sign.
Starting point is 01:37:51 If you look down, yes. And all of those pieces are affected by wind at 60 FPS. So it looks like a big tree piece of paper like fluttering and different parts of it will flutter and it looks so weird. And on top of that, the particle effects and all that are just like you go to the sand area or the ice areas and you get individual grains of sand or snow particle effects flying everywhere all the time. How would you say that that these looks compare to things like
Starting point is 01:38:24 3D dot game heroes and this this style? I would feel blows those out of the water because. It is giving how to put this other games with voxels in them. The the the last detail I want to mention before I get to that is that when you fight bosses, do you remember punch out the original and how your guy was actually quite small and the the the the fighters were actually quite small and much on the and then they talked about when they made the we version. They went well, it felt like those things were really huge.
Starting point is 01:38:56 So they made them enormous for the we punch out. It does that here where if you look back to FF six or FF one or all those classics, the boss sprite is of a certain size, but it felt quite large in your mind. Boss sprites are taking up 40 percent of the left side of the screen, but they're still pixel and they're still that pixel style. But they're super big like those like like altered beast or like China Warrior, where you're looking at like well, you remember like, oh, look at those big fucking sprites weapons.
Starting point is 01:39:27 Yeah. And but every time your character swings this massive super anti alias and particle effect with explosions and and depth depth of field color correction, chromatic aberration, et cetera, goes off of every single hit. It is so weird looking and it's great. It looks so good. It has such a unique as one, a really unique look to it. But two, it has the nostalgic look that a lot of people care for.
Starting point is 01:39:58 It's clearly trying to be FF six more than anything. Are there sigils? So what do you mean? Particular because because there's high for the characters that is like, you know, because we always talk about those anime fighting games where they're just like, throw more lighting and sigils. Oh, no, it's not big on sigils. OK, all right.
Starting point is 01:40:14 But like the the the 3D graphical effects in fights look like high end PS one effects. It is this amalgam of a time that didn't exist, which was married with a time that was never to be. Yeah. So and that time is FF six to Chrono Trigger combined with the the first PS one tales game. And like maybe one or two squares off looks like the golden era of that type of game was the end of the Super Nintendo at the beginning of the PlayStation
Starting point is 01:40:44 one, and they just decided to mash both of those together into one look. Someone from the future trying to create an old style game without having been there and just going. It had these things. It makes me think of Ogre Battle 64. Personally. Yeah, Ogre Battle 64. It it looks not in wistfully.
Starting point is 01:41:06 Absolutely fantastic. This art style should look like trash. It should be like it shouldn't work. It shouldn't work at all. But when you have these like how I don't know. I don't want to call them high end sprites because they're clearly very primitive by most standards today. But they are extraordinarily well crafted, old style sprites.
Starting point is 01:41:27 That have a lot of nuance and character and a lot of expression to them. Like a lot like a character's fist pump is exaggerated and stuff like that. As long as this is like an alternate reality where Square could have done that instead of going Final Fantasy seven route. Yeah, probably like they could have taken that path. And then you go through a desert area and all the shiny little particle bits like look genuinely fantastic. Um, on top of that, the game is fucking huge.
Starting point is 01:41:57 It's super stupid, huge. Like the lack of a main plot is no issue whatsoever because I've only gotten a little over half of the party because the there's a circuit around a lake. OK, you start in which all the starting locations are. You can see that on what he's looking at the overview trailer. But everybody starts in a circle around the lake and then the world map expands from that.
Starting point is 01:42:20 Yeah, the beginning of the game is you're probably going to hit that circuit to get everybody. Right. OK. So you go through everybody's beginning beginning storyline and they're all very similar. They all basically play out from a character's introduction to their call to adventure. Um, and they're all they're not really sure what the deal is with people saying that these things are overly cliched or something.
Starting point is 01:42:43 A lot of them are like classic or tried and true. But so far, they've been well written, extraordinarily well written. And when you look at this trailer and you see all the background are all you can think of is that didn't didn't take a lot of effort. Yeah. The the. So when you say when you say that, though, do you mean like like how well are you identifying tropes? There are tropes.
Starting point is 01:43:05 I mean, there's the there's the dickhead dickhead thief. Like they are but how do you not play this game and not expect those tropes? That's the part I was confused. Complaining if they did not have like there's the Alca the chemist with the heart of gold or whatever the whole point of this is to have tropes. I thought it is the whole point was to marry your cousins. There there aren't like wild twists on those tropes,
Starting point is 01:43:29 but they're all appropriate and the characters are all interesting in their own right. God, I'm just looking at it. It's so fucking weird looking. It's gorgeous, though. Yeah, but yeah, go on. You grab your circuit and then everybody has chapter two, which is in a second ring and then chapter three, which is in a third ring and then chapter four.
Starting point is 01:43:48 Like it is a it is like it looks like a topographic map, I guess, of levels. Like the inner is the easiest and then as you expand outwards. OK, there's a couple ways you could do it. You could get the four and then be line it or you could just do a spiral outwards. The game like you guys are looking at one of the overview trailers. It uses bravely default system where you could get extra turns, but it doesn't have you defaults to do it. It doesn't have to waste your turns to get more turns later.
Starting point is 01:44:16 You just get extra turns. OK, and it combines them with the press turn system or one more system from SMT in which every single enemy has weaknesses. And instead of being weakened by one hit, they have a certain amount of armor that you plank down with six weapon types or six magic types. And then they become weakened and then they take like double damage once. And they lose multiple. They lose their turns once they break.
Starting point is 01:44:40 OK, and then you combine that with a pretty classic like job system where I would say it's like in between tactics and FF5 in terms of complexity, every single thing about this game has like how did a friend of mine put it? My friends tried and put it. There's a lot of design love in this game. Every element of it seems like somebody worked their ass off to consider all the little pieces.
Starting point is 01:45:04 Harkening back to a favorite. Yeah, so you look at the status screen and then there's this huge painted art of your character in their status screen. But is that worth $60? Yes, you look at when you change jobs and every single sprite in the game has a every single character in the game has a different has eight actually has twelve different alternate sprites based on what job they've become.
Starting point is 01:45:30 That's cool. It's like I can't put it that it is so great. And there's all these little things that I figured would be annoyances because they go hand in hand with old JRPG stuff like grinding. And they just did a really good job in this game of balancing the way. How about this? What's an example you guys could? Wully lost Odyssey. Yes.
Starting point is 01:45:56 Do you remember when you played Lost Odyssey, the experience curve in Lost Odyssey didn't look like a curve. It looked like a staircase in that you would go to a dungeon and you would easily level up to a certain point. And then you would hit this fucking leveling wall in which, no, this is the level they probably want you to beat it at, because all of a sudden the requirements to level up once more
Starting point is 01:46:21 would be exponential compared to what you came in on. I don't. OK. But probably because you didn't grind. That's probably I don't recognize that very early. This is a great curve in which part of the problem is, hey, look, you don't use somebody there sitting at level one. But they did the math on it just right so that if you take them with you to a higher level area, I think a friend of mine,
Starting point is 01:46:46 he went to a level 50 area with the level one guy and killed one enemy and he gained twenty two levels. Oh, like, like it like spend an hour. They'll they'll catch up. They're back. Yeah, they will. They will be within the 95th percentile because they just and it's it's not a design thing. It's just the they got the math right on the curve and how much XP enemies give at what level and stuff like that. The music is FF six.
Starting point is 01:47:12 I was talking to people on Twitter. It's like, I don't know why I've never heard the soundtrack before, but it makes me feel nostalgic because it's a bunch of FF six arrangements. Just if this was not made by Square, I would say they are legally distinct. OK, FF six arrangements like it's which is what you'd expect. Yeah, it's very clear and just like it's just it's so good. It's the best. This is what I was up till six a.m. last night, not playing it, but just in bed, staring at the ceiling,
Starting point is 01:47:39 thinking about it like it's it's so good. And on top of that, if you want to, if you're the type of person who replays these kinds of games, it does have quite a lot of replay value. I have a friend of mine who is an idiot and who billied it. He just fucking maxed out in the first zone by chapter one. OK. And there's nothing that stops you at all. Like nothing physically impedes your progress and says you have to go
Starting point is 01:48:08 to the next thing to unlock the bridge to the new world or whatever the fuck. You if you just want to ignore that shit, just go get the party members you like, skip their cutscenes and walk to and just go do the things that you want to do. Wow. The only thing is that the final, final, final, final dungeon has to have everybody completed. That makes replay really good. That yeah, because it's open.
Starting point is 01:48:33 It's like I could gush about this for a lot longer, but I would rather save that for when you guys actually put your hands on it. But if you have any care at all for because I played the demo months ago and I really liked it, but I was like, well, we'll see, you know, how this pans out. Yeah, you should if you care anything for. FF four, five or six, any of the early PS1 Tales games or anything that has a square soft logo on it.
Starting point is 01:49:01 Yeah, you should probably play this immediately. Yeah, I was going to I was going to pick up an RPG afterwards. And I was I was deciding between putting more time into either this Night War or Setsuna to fucking throw Setsuna in the trash. This is this that that game's fine. It is unfortunately completely invalidated by this one. It doesn't need to exist. Wow. OK, damn.
Starting point is 01:49:31 Whereas like Night Wars, kind of a Night Wars is a very different game. Yeah, but it's a bit it fills that RPG. Yeah, yeah, I could not recommend this game enough. Ninety one forty seven be damned. OK, OK, it's it's the best. Like it's it's just the fucking best. And more than anything, I was hoping you guys at least started it because I wanted to know what got what character you I intended to.
Starting point is 01:49:59 But I was just too tired and like I got I getting off the bus. I was like, fucking yeah, Kirby shit. Yes. So OK. I know those folks at home who want to know I picked. Well, Tressa, the merchant, well, because she's all about capitalism and shit. Well, just off of interest in seeing how that goes, because I've never heard of anything like it,
Starting point is 01:50:22 I heard that there's a prostitute character. It's she's not a prostitute. She is a dancer, dancer slash part time stripper. Yeah, slash maybe a prostitute. It's really fucked up. I'm going to start there because that's not at all what I expect. So an FF six looking thing. I should mention one thing about the game story
Starting point is 01:50:41 because it's all eight personalized stories. Yeah, there is one problem with the game, but I think it's hilarious and that is tonal dissonance. Every character story is very different depending who you pick and whether or not you go clockwise or counterclockwise around the map. You will go from like I picked Tressa, which is the merchant. Yeah, I'm going to have a big world of adventure and sell lots of shit. Woo to I'm going to kill you
Starting point is 01:51:09 if you don't fuck me in the back room, right? Within like three hours of each other. Like, yeah, it is wildly different in tone. And I'm very curious for that, which does not usually occur in like happy RPGs or not happy RPGs. Excuse me. And RPGs that look this way. These only game that I don't expect that level of looking that I can think of that things like that.
Starting point is 01:51:34 Anything like that is to code and to. Yes. And look a blight. Yeah, and look a blight. So that's that's kind of there. Yeah, so that's exactly it. Yeah, the line that like took me out of it and had me like physically recoil was the voice acted line of God, shut your pretty mouth and put it where it belongs.
Starting point is 01:51:56 And if that pleases me enough, I'll let you live. And I'm just like, wow. Merchant trading, get revenge for that guy who killed the king. What? Oh, Jesus. And then the next person down the list is I got to make potions for the village. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. All right. OK.
Starting point is 01:52:19 Got it. Got it. Got it. Wow. That's OK. But I'm. Big, big, big, big push, big push for Octopath Traveler. Everybody that I know who's playing it is enamored. And everybody I would mention would be Clems and. And I patch that that font really reminds me a shovel night. Yeah, a little bit.
Starting point is 01:52:44 Unless you always see Nintendo eShop under. That's true. Shovel night. I was about to say hollow night. All the nights. Yeah, what's happening this week? Lots of fun stuff went down. There's some fun, stupid stuff.
Starting point is 01:52:59 There's some fun, stupid stuff, but let's start with some breaking because something apparently while making while this podcast has been going. A trailer, a trailer was released for something called Marvel Rising. Wait, what? Oh, yeah, this new of you. Perfects, new Marvel animated. I wish it was imperfect. But Squirrel Girl, it's Miss Marvel.
Starting point is 01:53:24 It's Spider Gwen. It's a TV show. Yes. They they show animated like a TV show. They showed art for this a few months ago with the team. And I was like, that's a good team. The Squirrel Girls finally making it big. After not being in Marvel like games for. She beat the fighting game.
Starting point is 01:53:43 She beat that. That's OK. So, yes, a Squirrel Girl, Kamala Khan, Spider Gwen and some new there's a guy named Inferno. I don't know him. So just all the new hotness, well, new quote unquote, new hotness. Yeah, she's in a band. New is in all the hotness that's existed since I think America. America is the character.
Starting point is 01:54:08 So like whatever, like since these we haven't gotten animated things in a while, they just hired Spider Gwen to be Spider Gwen. OK, Quake. Yeah, I don't know. Quake, I don't know who you are. Sorry, Quake. Where's America? I'm telling you, it's true. Damn it.
Starting point is 01:54:31 Yeah, girl, going to fight that house is important. So this is is Gwen alive in this universe because of she's in it. Because should I just stop trying to figure that out? Is that because I'm like, there's no like Gwen's turning in a gym in the hall grand, a little bit, a little bit. She's always in a band. But yeah, with the band's name and initiation with the band's name is
Starting point is 01:54:55 what Mary Jane, sure. So of course it is. So but like, yeah, should I should I just stop like asking? Yes, yes, absolutely. Don't worry about it. You see, Spider Gwen, Peter's dead. Don't worry about it. OK. And even then, he might not be.
Starting point is 01:55:10 No, because she know because she might be in a different different dimension. Right? Yeah, whatever dimensions. No, no, no, no fucking comic books. Man, who gets shit? Sometimes aside from just comic books, cartoons based on comic books. Sometimes she's not in her own dimension, as I'm told. I guess the answer is to just read the thing.
Starting point is 01:55:28 Huh? I know that probably will make you more confused. But yeah, this looks cool. Marvel animation is really, really like inconsistent, I'd say. I will. It's not the animation. So the moment I said, is this a TV show like halfway out of my mouth? I'm like, of course, it's a TV show. Yeah, it doesn't look super duper great
Starting point is 01:55:51 in terms of how smooth things are moving. But that's TV budget, you know, they're not going to fucking. They're not going to the new front, the new frontier rate. Yeah, it's not a little animated movie, you know, DC going all in with their with their animations. But yeah, they should just take or DC animation division and have them make movies and just put them in fucking while they're having that Teen Titan
Starting point is 01:56:13 movie where they make Deadpool jokes. Oh, fucking weird. It is or or or or how about fucking Sakuga Goku, a.k.a. movie super high quality animation, Goku. Broly is back and he's canon. So we talked a little bit about this, but then like, yeah, that was like, holy shit.
Starting point is 01:56:34 Remember, it was just like, hey, they announced Broly. Now we got to look at him. Now it's like, shut up. Broly's normal looking design is the best ever. Normal Broly is just about the coolest thing to me. It's got you. They got me. They got piccolo is what they got.
Starting point is 01:56:53 Kind of. Thanks, Doc. Now, man, obviously I dig it. But here's the deal. Imagine this were black and white and not purple and green. It would still be rad because he's got a fucking wolf skin. Like we're like fur or whatever. Yeah, like thing like like his his fancy loincloth that he used to have now is just like a fur kind of thing.
Starting point is 01:57:19 He reminds me of a Dragon Ball A F character now with the fur. Sure. But anyway, it's more like sort of huntery, you know, it's a bit more warrior like like hulking warrior. Yes, Hulk and credible Hulk. And having that loincloth look that way is more like, yeah, more bestial and whatnot. And that's a cooler look than the normal thing that Napa and Vegeta had when they got out of the pod.
Starting point is 01:57:44 And listen, yeah, man. New Broly looks very cool. Now, a lot of people hope he gets a costume like this and fighters. Yeah, cool. Now, a lot of people are going to say that they're hoping that his backstory gets retconned. And those people are wrong. It needs to say the stupidest fucking thing.
Starting point is 01:58:03 I think they already did. Well, they already confirmed, I thought, via. And I think just Toriyama didn't interview talking about it. And I think he already confirmed that the the guy is like, I need. I want to have the story of Broly in mind. Well, but it was it was also because like he said some stuff that was like, that's not how that went with like who made what or whatever when they were making that move. But I think I heard there was a thing where he's like,
Starting point is 01:58:28 I designed the original and then like they took my sketch and went with it or something. And someone was like, that's not true. But OK, O'brally comes back. I want this Broly to have then if it's different, an even dumber reason for hating Goku. Yeah, is it? No, this is in that interview. I'm pretty sure they said this is a completely different character. Oh, I heard fetus Goku in the next room.
Starting point is 01:58:52 And the fetus don't think saints have fetuses. I heard whatever is before baby. I think they're all too baby baby. And I heard it in the fucking I heard him even before we were operating. And his dad, apparently, I like in what not, like the whole backstory role, like that it was going to be different because they changed things around to be, I guess, whatever, updated to make sense. I think is what he said.
Starting point is 01:59:17 I would be shocked if he doesn't get punched into the sun or some equivalent because he kept getting punched and gets punched in the sun back in a day. It's punched into being by the end of the first movie is so fucking lame where Goku just punches it really hard. And for some reason, that one goes through punch them really hard. At least in the second one, it's like the the Goku family came out. Yeah, that's cool. That's quite right. Yeah. I do like that they they like headed this off at the pass with a really cool
Starting point is 01:59:48 like step like the reveal is via a cool statue. Yeah. So it's like the thing that you would see the art of and go off. Oh, oh, yeah, that it was revealed via the thing I want. You know, like it's it's two in one right away. Two birds, one stone character ends up being very different. Does that mean that there's the possibility of a second Broly for Dragon Ball Fighter? That's what I'm wondering if not a DLC costume.
Starting point is 02:00:16 Like, could you imagine when no one else has had his weird energy? Amoeba balls, green ones, you know, I think that's suck. It's the worst thing about him. It'd be very weird because the Broly that we got in Dragon Ball fighters is absolutely classic classic non-canon Broly. So yeah, what we're having non-canon movie characters. Can we please fucking get Jinemba in there? Fuck. Yes, please. Akira Toriyama says with his Broly comments.
Starting point is 02:00:43 Hey, everyone. Hi. Are you familiar with Broly? He's an incredibly strong saying who appeared in the old anime movies, and I apparently at least drew designs for him. But I practically had no involvement with the anime at the time, so I had totally forgotten about the story content. So about Broly, I hear these days he's still very popular, not only in Japan, but also overseas. In fact, there's many of you that are from overseas always screaming
Starting point is 02:01:06 when's Broly based on that. My editor suggested we have Broly appear in the next movie. I went ahead and watched the movies from back then, and I felt this could be quite interesting once I got right to working, trying my hand at a story to incorporate him into the Dragon Ball Super series while keeping in mind Broly's classic image. So fondly in a more fascinating Broly in the more fascinating bro. That should have been the name of the movie.
Starting point is 02:01:29 More fascinating Broly. Naturally, you'll get to see fierce combat, but also the encounter between Goku, Vegeta and Broly. It also involves Frieza Force and the history of the Saiyans, which end up having a major connection to everything. The story content turns out to be very large, scale and dramatic. Here comes the Almighty Saiyan Broly. I'm including lots of other content for you.
Starting point is 02:01:47 Yeah, so it was it was Broly that blew up everyone. And if it's my editor screamed at me that we need to have Broly, so I'm forced to make Broly. We're going to like they've retconned so much and we're not done yet. We got more to do. There's more. You know that Broly has the highest concentration of S cells. Oh, Sam, deep by he would have to.
Starting point is 02:02:11 Wouldn't he just got to take some of his blood and see how much this is and he's got it. This is Broly with an S cell. I am I with that statement just worried myself so bad as I am now terrified that this Broly wearing a Frieza Force uniform is a fucking lab grown Saiyan by Frieza, which would be the worst. I don't know that he would be sell to that.
Starting point is 02:02:43 Oh, yeah, as a replacement for sell. That's bad. No, no, no. I don't mind that in the sense that it explains his complete absence from everything up until the point in time, because there'd have to be a reason, right? Don't want a lab grown Saiyan. Where the fuck would he come from? Although either way, they would explain why they have his yes,
Starting point is 02:03:02 that all the S cells injected into it. See, right? Who's the guy that's behind Goku that has a red lightsaber? Some guy in this picture. Anyway, we're looking at the action. Baseball, man. It's Goku holding his power bow. OK, yeah, we see another angle of it.
Starting point is 02:03:19 No, yep, yep, yep, yep, so with a stripper pole. Power bow was strong, man. It was it was so strong that they had to get rid of it. And Nimbus, don't forget Nimbus. Don't forget only the pure of height. Heart can ride it, but then they learned how to fucking fly. So who gives any asshole can fly? Doesn't the Dell learn how to fly in like an afternoon?
Starting point is 02:03:43 And she was she works hard at it, though. But then she. But no, really, though, doesn't she learn in like an afternoon? Yeah, give or take. So what the fuck is Hercule's problem? He's his ego is already telling him he's the best. He doesn't need to train. He knows better. He doesn't need to actually try if he actually does.
Starting point is 02:03:59 But the potential is there. Movie all about him. The potential is there because if his daughter is more fascinating, say 10, if his daughter is that good, then then he could be that good. But he already thinks he's that good. That's the press. That's why he's that bad.
Starting point is 02:04:13 He's like a massive bitch hanging around boo and super. You think you think people that you think Japanese fans that are like, man, what's up with this Broly being so popular in America? We hate him. You think they they start calling him Captain America? I made that joke like like 40 minutes ago about. No, not 40 minutes ago. About Matt said that America was in the and the thing.
Starting point is 02:04:40 And I'm like, oh, you mean Ridley? The Japanese Smash Brothers players are calling Ridley Captain America because his big Western fan base got him in. Fuck you. There's only one Metroid person. Yeah. And there should only be one because Metroid sucks says Japan says Japan. They never got in.
Starting point is 02:04:57 They never got in. Oh, could you imagine Adam got in? Well, I mean, they're OK with 13,000 fire emblem characters. Yes, they are. Dark Pit and Palutena. Yeah, I like Captain America, which was if you will. Hey, hey, hey, that's a really good point. What?
Starting point is 02:05:14 Um, way back when think about how many characters at the time of original Smash Brothers and at the time of Melee. We had no fucking idea about Roy and Marth. Who? Right. Who the fuck? Who is Lucas? Lucas. Well, I mean, I know.
Starting point is 02:05:34 But canonically, who is Lucas? Japan, you know, like, think about how many Japanese characters that we should have no idea anything about existed. And eventually we grew to love those. I can complain if we somehow get Danica Patrick in this fucking game. So it's that's that's a funny one, because it's like I didn't think about it until this moment, like, yes, Ridley's the complete American Shoe and because we all love Metroid and they don't.
Starting point is 02:05:59 But in reverse order, tons of characters got in that we had no idea about our interest in every game. Yeah, but Japan doesn't give a shit because it's a Japanese game. That's true, too. Also, these images of Ridley's head just pasted on Captain America from the movies is are fucking hilarious. Same image of his face. It's really bad and it's cracking me up.
Starting point is 02:06:21 Captain America. I mean, yeah, it's like, yeah, I don't know. I'm like, does that imply like, does date in anger? Or is it just like fucking Americans? No, it's just a silly old thing. It's funny shit. Perspective. Speaking of perspective, what if they announced Captain America?
Starting point is 02:06:41 Well, that'd be cool. What do you call Ridley? What if they announced No Man's Sky with online play? I don't think anyone would care. A couple people would care. No Man's Sky next just got announced with a third person view. First, that's the obviously to me, that's the most striking thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:00 So there's a new trailer that they just put out. It's coming out next week. So, yeah, third person view is the biggest change to me. And I assume that Sean Murray decided to change the perspective because it lends itself better to this type of game. There are, you know what there? And then the trailer that is released is like constant multiplayer being shown with other players running around.
Starting point is 02:07:31 No, that was a lie. Now it's real. I was setting you up to say that was a lie. Thank you. I'm glad that you said that. Please continue doing that. Why? So I have not followed this game for shit after the original release.
Starting point is 02:07:46 And they put out a bunch of these content, whatever's title updates, right? All I can think of is that there has to be a way faster method of travel than was in that original release. If you're intended to actually play multiplayer with people, one would assume because the the distances that were well, I mean, the one old robots and mecha dogs and the game. The one thing the game was also with the trailer was that the universe was fucking enormous.
Starting point is 02:08:18 And it took it took a long time to get anywhere. I bet I wouldn't be surprised if you can buy a thing that's like ping to the nearest human being. Yeah, but like that that would have taken. Like, I remember when the the one people found the those two players found out that the multiplayer was a lie. It took a long fucking time for them to actually figure out where they were make enough jumps to get to each other.
Starting point is 02:08:41 Yeah. So, yeah, in this case, there's definitely probably going to be some sort of human radar or at the very least like make sure or like bring me to the nearest planet with somebody on it or something, you know, seeing this. Or yeah, it'll have to be you can ping somebody and they point their position on the star map. And there has to be some kind of if they want to multi jump
Starting point is 02:09:03 engine, you know, something that can make 10 jumps or 20 or like if we if I want, if I agree and you agree, like you can come here. I can just I can just fucking crazy. Have you jumped right out of this? When do you think No Man's Sky came out two years ago? Announced like five years ago released released on PS4. Twenty sixteen. August, twenty sixteen.
Starting point is 02:09:29 Twenty sixteen. Two years ago. Just under actually. And so, yeah, the text alongside this is this is No Man's Sky next. Play with your friends and discover a rebooted universe together. Releasing July 24th. So this. More than the multiplayer, actually, I'm going to take a page from your book. Willie, the third person thing is a wild change.
Starting point is 02:09:50 This will at the very least get me to go read the patch notes for those. And go, what did they say they did? That's funny. You can get me to read your patch notes. Well, because depending on what's in there, right? I just I know. That's a very different. I just like that that's where we are.
Starting point is 02:10:09 It's a it's a different experience. It's a different experience. I would never read your patch notes before today. It's interesting to me to see a game like No Man's Sky, which promised everything and then fell on its face and then is slowly catching up to that original promise compared to, say, the Railjack stuff, the Warframe showed off a week or two ago, where that game's a fucking dungeon crawler with ninja shit.
Starting point is 02:10:31 And then they are like, hey, what about space combat? What about this? What about ship and just adding on top of it? One of these clearly engenders a lot more shit in your face than others. Like, look, like we're looking at the next trailer right now. If the game had released looking like that. The hindsight 2020 Sean Murray is a huge fucking liar. Probably wouldn't be the huge meme that it is.
Starting point is 02:10:55 Of course. Do you think enough time and continued like for honoring of it's of the game? What will get it to a place where more state that it was good wanted? It said it was going to be. Yeah, we're well, I mean, to a point where like more people will just be new and not even know about how it released. No, that was a huge fucking. It was on Colbert.
Starting point is 02:11:18 I remember that. That was it was that game's disappointment was mythical. Yeah, mythical like it was all anyone could fucking talk about for like two weeks was how fucking disappointed they were at no man's. But what I'm but I guess what I'm getting at is like they're they're trying to to no man's sky a realm reborn it. Yeah, but and you like what does it take for that to work? Well, robots is a good start.
Starting point is 02:11:44 Destiny did and called it's no man's guy to Titans and Blade Wolf is a good start. It's it's going to take the game to be good. There's that and it's going to have to be good for a while. So like a realm reborn had the advantage of killing the old thing and starting over, yeah, which gives you a nice clean break with something like this that's ongoing fire like head guys that were starting to find out that's 14. They said no, they didn't fire them in true Square Enix fashion.
Starting point is 02:12:14 They moved them to other projects and in some cases promoted them out of the way. Yeah, I have genitors. No, no, that's that's the other one. Like for me, I think my like as cool as it is to see like these things go and continue. I feel that like the the thing that you're doing in the video game is one that kind of bores me. So I probably guess what? Not everyone. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:12:42 So I don't feel like I feel like like unless that itself is different. Unfortunately, it still wouldn't great gain and appeal. But what I would like to see is the press release alongside this to explain that this is just that that's it. Play with your friends to discover Rebooted Universe together. Yeah, so I guess it's just Rebooted Universe. OK, because I had no point that I like when I first saw the trailer playing, I saw it without text was like, is this a sequel?
Starting point is 02:13:06 Rebooted Universe sounds like it appears to hit the fucking swipes like clean button. So this this it sounds like it's just another giant ass update alongside the previous giant ass update. So like, well, you brought up a really good point, which was remember right before the game came out, the big thing was, well, what do you do? Oh, yeah, here we go. It's a free update. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:29 And the answer is you explore and they're like, no, what do you what do you fucking do? And the answer is, do you mind just enough materials to upgrade your engines and make it off the fucking star system that you're in? And that was really tedious. And the ship upgrades mattered little. And there was very little ship combat. And you never wasn't a ton of fun. You never explored a planet enough
Starting point is 02:13:48 to gain anything of value because the materials you needed were either out and spent, you know, whatever, jumping around, mining some rocks, went into a cave, found a new alien and even for a game of that genre, it was poor in that respect. I remember there was a game Matt and I played for Shitstorm. I want to say three years ago that was an alpha when we played it. And it was awesome when we played it was the forest where you're playing crashes in the forest and the fucking mutants attack you.
Starting point is 02:14:16 You have to make force. Yeah. And that game got built on and built on and built on. And it's a great one of those things because you immediately put your feet down and say, oh, I'm going to gain materials. Why do I gain materials so I can build a little for it? Why do I build a little force so I can defend myself? And there were like very clear goals that had gameplay associated with them. And in this, it was gain resources to upgrade my things
Starting point is 02:14:35 so I can get a better engine so I can fly farther. And that was it. That was it. So if they change that, yeah, that'd be cool. Looking at some concept art with four players here. It looks like, though, that that t-shirt of ghosts. Yeah, the Pac-Man, the Pac-Man or like astronaut. I think that's the first fucking selfie stick I've seen an astronaut with. That's a piece of fucking video game.
Starting point is 02:14:57 Also, that that is clearly a fucking X-Wing in the concept art over to the right. Looks like it looks like it. Um, OK. So that's no man's sky next. Pretty much dropping, dropping. So I asked on Twitter while we were having this conversation, what the fuck is the deal with no man's sky? And I got a shit ton of responses.
Starting point is 02:15:19 I asked, is it good or bad? And the general consensus is yes. OK, that was one of the responses I got was yes. Well, this ain't out yet. Yeah, no, but I mean, they've had like two or three or four updates. Yeah, it's better than it was. Yeah, like, so I will, you know what? When this comes out, I'll I'll I'll dive in and see what the patch notes I want.
Starting point is 02:15:43 I for me, I want to read those. It's not just patch notes. It's not just patch notes. I need a list of objectives. See what I want to see what those are. You can see those in the patch notes. Probably. Um, speaking of patches.
Starting point is 02:15:56 That never fucking happens. So is OK. Can we just get into what might be the story of the year, in my opinion? Yeah. Yeah. The wildest thing ever. I I I can't. We all know one can you ever make a typo? I I I don't think there's a fucking better video game story this year.
Starting point is 02:16:19 I don't know. There might be. Matt, you ever make a typo? No. Yeah, me either. And I can't imagine that anything catastrophic could happen because of a typo, either. You know, what's the worst that could happen? You could get banned from Rainbow Six. Oh, that's weird.
Starting point is 02:16:37 The oh, is that shit on there? The recetera, the recetera thread about this news articles appears to have fucking exploded and disappeared. Did you put the fucking recetera of not recetera, the fucking Rainbow Six thing? No, no. Oh, that's hilarious. They implemented a fucking auto ban word filter in Siege so that if you say any racial slurs or whatever, you get fucking banned from the game and people are using it to deplete the enemy teams.
Starting point is 02:17:04 People are saying like, hey, don't be racist. And then the whole team just drops. Yes, so you that's amazing. That's hilarious. Oh, but it's the it's the funniest thing in the world. It's a game play feature. Now it's a metagame. It is a legitimate metagame with the Siege community. Borrowings.
Starting point is 02:17:23 Aliens, colonial marines, horrible AI gets fixed with a single letter. I want to read the way it was written in the fucking thread, but it's it's exploded because this is this is the story of the fucking year. We all you guys, we all fucking talked about ad nauseam shit about how colonial marines came out. And it was not at all what it said. It was going to be a bad video, the original no man's to the point where lawsuits started getting involved.
Starting point is 02:17:52 Yeah. It was rough and it turns out that a huge aspect of why the game was so bad was the bad AI. The way I played it, it's bad. The way you just shoot aliens that don't know what the fuck they're doing. I mean, aliens will just stare right at you and not do anything. This article here refers to it as a rushed
Starting point is 02:18:16 production cycle with tepid gameplay. So it turns out that a fan made patch noticed in the code. There was a typo. It's in the god damn any file. That's the craziest thing. It's in the configurable like user viewable any file in the documents. It was supposed to say tether, right? And instead it wrote the word it wrote the word tether,
Starting point is 02:18:39 but it spelled it incorrectly with an A in the middle. So it says Tether and the person that wrote that code basically fucked up and hit one A that line and that line completely disactivates the A is like in like the controls, tactical position adjustment, patrolling and target zoning. So the basic deal here, I read into this quite a bit. The basic deal is that the line that was mistyped was something called zone to tether, and it was the in game option
Starting point is 02:19:13 that would assign a location zone to enemies so that they would know where running away is, where they should attack from, where objects are in the environment, where the player is in the environment, etc. With this broken, it means enemies have no idea where they actually are and thus creates the AI in which enemies will just run straight at you or in walls or backwards or all sorts of fucking stupid shit. One of the most surprising and ridiculous things is
Starting point is 02:19:46 at no point was this caught over the course of the fucking testing and and the months that went on to fucking like. Like a QA like you always have you have a little bit of post QA sometimes. You have your patches that would come out and so on and so forth. Yeah, this game did get patched, especially on the PC. So how this just never got caught. So you guys and the way that AI was like a review staple and the for this game.
Starting point is 02:20:14 And well, the only thing I can imagine is in QA, they never actually got a build without the typo. That's possible, yeah. So they just thought it was normal. There was no change that happened because if you suddenly get a build where fucking AI is not working, it's very obvious. And that has happened in games we've tested and you send it back and you go, we can't even test this. There's something wrong.
Starting point is 02:20:37 You broke it, right? Some something internal component is not working. I think that was there that is now broken will oftentimes be like send the build back, but here they must have never gotten it. And they just assumed, well, your code is shit. And the guy went, I guess this is what happens in my code. And then they just thought it was fine. This is baffling because everyone who tested it or played it
Starting point is 02:21:00 or had a dev build at some point had to have looked at it and go, man, this AI is fucked up. Ah, ship it. Well, because I know that Borderlands. I mean, we know that Gearbox didn't really prioritize this. That is a way to put it, a way to put it, because they're interested in other things that they're making more at the time, like Borderlands.
Starting point is 02:21:23 And that smash hit Battleborn. So it's very easy to just go like, yeah, they didn't give a fucking. That's the end of that. No, I'm just saying that's a contributing factor. But but but like, yeah, it just got overlooked. Yeah, the actual the actual code line that from the I and I file is attached pond to tether. And it's just straight up explained as a single A being removed.
Starting point is 02:21:49 And that spelling mistake being fixed changes everything instantly. And that's that. That's fucking crazy. Yeah, so if that doesn't get read this, the detailed explanation is when a Zeno is spawned, it's attached to a zone tether. The zone tells the Zeno what area is its fighting space and where exits are in combat. As you know, we'll be forced to switch to a new tether, such as behind you.
Starting point is 02:22:12 So it's the flank or dispersed so they aren't grouped up. OK, so when with that not existing, all they can do is I guess just run at you. Here's where I ask a stupid question. Ask away. I'm not a programmer. No, you're not. I have not for years. Next to zero programming knowledge. I had enough to do to work on some Mugen character bullshit. Right. That's all I really know.
Starting point is 02:22:36 When you're when a spelling mistake like this hat like fucking occurs in your code and you compile or you or you even just have a text editor that notices these things, it's pointed out to you. But but the word is still not like it's a misspelled word, but it's still a word. So maybe that's why I didn't pop up, but it's not. It's not about spelling the word. It's about something.
Starting point is 02:22:59 It's about making a call that you've already established elsewhere. So if you have your hat to have been built, you define what your call is before. You know, so I'm like, if the thing that's being called is not actually a reference anywhere, then that should have been pointed out either by either in the text editor where it'll just color itself as what the fuck is this. Or when you're compiling, it'll fail. So I'm just like, I don't know how that would happen. But I have no idea.
Starting point is 02:23:28 This is because it's even ignore the technical aspect. I'm also not a programmer, so I can't possibly speak to the the, you know, the the compiling nature of it. What I can speak to is somebody who edits their any files of their PC games. These any files, this is the user configurable any file in your documents holder. In fact, it's in documents, games, alien, colonial, marine, you know what? You're not compiling an I and I file. You're right that. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:23:52 You're just saving the text and it is what it is. You can typo away. And these are things that I've edited. That's why I started to shit. Yes, yes, yes, change a resolution. You're putting it on a widescreen or turn off intros, yada, yada, yada. Everybody who plays on PC games is probably edited one of these at some point. These things are maximum 200 lines, right?
Starting point is 02:24:11 It'll have the graphical options of display options that will have engine options, yada, yada, yada, right? If your game is fucked, if your game comes out and the build is fucked, how is not is no one assigned to check that? And just read, just read. This would be the first thing you would do, right? Is anything broken in the user config? Is anything spelt incorrectly? Yeah, you would you would you would
Starting point is 02:24:38 say you would tell a guy and look over this for two hours. Is there a are there spelling mistakes? Well, because again, going back to the fucking nothing that I know, and I really can't emphasize how little I know, like you like, is there a semicolon before a line where it shouldn't be fucking up the rest of that line? You know, it seems like such a basic thing. This is the kind of thing that if any of the three of us were told
Starting point is 02:25:02 the AI is broken, we could have fixed this. If given a day, if given one full day, because the only thing that we would know how to edit would be the any file, right? If I know how to get the Punisher into a Street Fighter Cross Tekken, could probably change it like into it's not like we would go in there and go, OK, usually the way these things goes, there's a line that goes equal and zero is often one is on, right? We go, is AI set to zero? No. OK.
Starting point is 02:25:36 And then we would check it for spelling mistakes and we would find this. That's probably exactly how this happened, right? Guy just took a look at the any file, I wonder what's in here and fucking found it. Man, it'd be so sick to like change it and release the patch and just be like, I'm a fucking wizard. Like I am a God. I read it. I did it all myself from scratch. And then you just do you just do a fucking CRC check on it.
Starting point is 02:25:57 And you see literally one bit has changed like one single bit. Tether is a T company. Oh, yeah. So like to those of you who write code at home, I have I have heard from many of you that, yes, checking your code for mistakes is the nightmare. It's the worst thing in the world. But there are tools to help you with that.
Starting point is 02:26:24 And a lot of them are again, things where like it'll like point out to you as you're writing. There's like like even fucking like there's a thing I use called like notepad plus plus, for example, where it like it'll recognize things you wrote earlier on and like call them back, auto complete them, show you things that are spelling errors versus like things that are clearly not a spelling error, but like it knows that you started to write this thing. Yeah. And then you wrote the wrong version of it.
Starting point is 02:26:50 You got stupider as the thing as time went on. Hey, I think you actually meant to write pretty sure that's what you meant because this is what you were doing before. Anyway, it's weird. Fun. Game's so bad. Very excited for Borderlands three. A game that they refused to announce for some fucking reason. Probably, yeah, you'd have a reason.
Starting point is 02:27:12 More coding foibles continue. You probably need to find another project to steal money from. As. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Pimp out that notepad plus plus. If you're still using notepad, you're fucking get on notepad two. Your streets behind notepad two is all right. Notepad two is all right, but notepad plus plus is better. So is it notepad two gold?
Starting point is 02:27:33 It's notepad two, but better. So it's notepad two gold. I mean, you can you can you can open it to it's got it's got tabs plus alpha. For matching service for matching service. There you go. Nintendo hid a nest emulator inside of Animal Crossing on the GameCube. I remember this. Yeah. That's how you play all these games.
Starting point is 02:27:58 But it's a full nest emulator that I thought this was known like six years ago. Was it? Because this article is treating it like it's new. This is this is news to me. I haven't heard of this until now. An unused feature hidden in Animal Crossing because you see you can play any games or maybe the news is that like, well, you can just drop a rom into it and a little inferior and it plays the whole thing.
Starting point is 02:28:21 And like that the game itself had an emulator inside of it. I remember telling you the other day, I fucking killed your heart. I could see that there's a hidden PS2 emulator inside the PS4. Yeah, fully functioning native PS2 emulator that just works that is used for some fucking reason. I bet if I haven't seen it, it's new to me, I guess. For those of you who didn't know, Animal Crossing had a nest emulator in it. And when you go over to play the consoles in theory, if you had a rom
Starting point is 02:28:50 on your memory card, you could load it up and play that game. Does it work better than the shitty virtual console ones? No, it doesn't completely work properly, actually. And furthermore, it seems like it was removed at the last second, but someone kind of like dug it out. Exactly. People found a bunch of fucking develop debug shit in Silent Hill 2. Well, let me get to the fucking new story because OK, well, that that was a lead. That the world of digging shit out of these games is continues as this week
Starting point is 02:29:23 of like fucking data mining Silent Hill to mini map that people have found a mini map and save anywhere secret input. This is 1000 percent dev dev test stuff. It's a fucking wireframe mini map. Like it's it's the simplest possible thing. Q.A. We're using this and the way you activate it, usually in the final build, you just turn off those button prompts. But this was in a time has all sorts of goofy conditions when you didn't do it.
Starting point is 02:29:54 You have to get the dog ending with you. So in Silent Hill 2, two new secrets have been discovered. Punk seven, eight, ninety found that when you do specific controller inputs after getting specific conditions. So, for example, you get the dog ending and then you open up a mini map by holding down start L2 square and L3 at the same time and you just get a mini map in the top corner. Furthermore, you can do you can get a save anywhere menu
Starting point is 02:30:29 by pressing left on the D pad, then left on the analog stick, then left on the right analog stick, then L1, L2 and L3 at the same time. That brings up a save menu. I should mention that just fucking I should mention to everyone. Don't save your game using the save anywhere feature. There's it was likely never tested, right? Well, like which likely means it wasn't meant to be tested. It was meant to be a dev tool.
Starting point is 02:30:56 Right. But what I mean is you could fuck your save file up if you use like if you save in a goofy position now, probably it's a little less scary to be able to save it. And here's the thing. If you can and do then this game would have failed compliance, which means that because this shouldn't be accessible to the user on the on. You know what I mean? Like if you access a debug menu that even the deep like Earthrealm
Starting point is 02:31:16 gym had that it was like straight up like, oh, yeah, let the let the end user have fun with these codes. Yeah. But those codes should also not cause destructive actions to occur. So the fucking up of your save file for having funsies with another anywhere. No, not OK. But my funsies, Willie. So yeah, that's some crazy ass shit from a fucking ancient ass game. Seventeen years old.
Starting point is 02:31:42 It's old. People drinking a beer right now that weren't alive when Silent Hill 2 came out. I mean, no, no, they're that's real, like, yeah, close. Yeah. There's people drinking beer. Yeah, I didn't say they bought the in what country? Not in America. Not in America. You're telling me there's not a single 17 year old in the world drinking one beer right now in the world. Absolutely.
Starting point is 02:32:12 Well, there you go. But there's places where they don't know when you say that you assume that we meant legally. Oh, yeah, I guess you're right. But to the to the 80 percent of the people hearing us in America, they're not 21. Yeah. Not old enough to drink, but old enough to go to war. Huh? Yeah, we got. All is in the states.
Starting point is 02:32:35 It's a son ad for the Navy that says more real than any video game. Oh, literally shuttered. Dude, do you remember? Do you remember those trade those commercials where you're going? Not my wife's games. You know, you know what? There's no consequences in video games. Those awesome Navy SEAL commercials where you were fucking going through the
Starting point is 02:32:53 oh, you're fighting the fucking reboot final boss. No, no, the Marines commercial and you're going through the maze and he pulls the sword out and he fucking kills the monsters. What's on a dorky looking uniform? Those were cool. But this is like a new one and it creeped me out. Anyway, what are we saying? I was saying that
Starting point is 02:33:12 if we flex up a little bit, flex it. You guys were talking about this like just last week. Yeah. Volcano Rozo and Pulimperna, obviously, dropping as fighting ex layer. DLC free alongside new modes. How come barks in anger? How can you? Bark, bark, I'm a dog for free.
Starting point is 02:33:37 I don't know. Now, a lot of you are probably rightfully asking who's Volcano Rozo. He's that guy. Fuck you. He's that's the answer. He's the narcissist detective. He's fucking Volcano Rozo. He was the street fighter ex equivalent of Maxi and he's the shit.
Starting point is 02:33:55 Yeah. Pulimperna is a character I never really liked. So whatever. But I like her now. She fights with a tambourine. Be excited. And and she's out to find a clue about her father's disappearance. Yeah. But anyway, two free DLC DLC characters.
Starting point is 02:34:14 And training mode, training mode, online training mode. Yeah. And arcade mode is coming. Yeah. There's also like those those kind of like gold outfit costumes and stuff. I think I saw what the fuck at the name of the arcade mode. It's arcade mode version point eight zero brackets, temporary name. It's a work in progress. Why are you not confident enough to just call it arcade mode?
Starting point is 02:34:39 No, because we don't know where we're going to call it yet. I don't know. So weird. We don't know yet. Oh, yeah, I think about this game after so weird. Cool. I want I want some other fighting layer like people. I want back all. Well, more people need to buy the main game.
Starting point is 02:34:57 Yeah. Yeah. Specifically, the standard version. One day we'll get area. I'll keep talking about her, though. You've got to be bored of Blair Dame. The shark. The shark is the ultimate shark from fighting layer. The shark is the ultimate.
Starting point is 02:35:11 But but again, fighting layer as a dumb training stage. I think fighting I turned. I think fighting layer is legally off limits, unfortunately. Yeah, but you can just have a shark. You just have a shark. Capcom doesn't own shark. Didn't Blair Dame show up in the um, early ass, weird, 3D, 8S game?
Starting point is 02:35:33 No, do you remember when fighting layer was coming back as like a 3DS game or or a handheld build? Oh, my God, am I crazy? You might just be a I feel like fighting layer was temporarily coming back. There is anything that would not be coming back. It's fighting layer. It was a thing like this that we're looking at now
Starting point is 02:35:54 shouldn't even even happen. It was an April Fool's joke for fuck's sake. No, man. Why don't we get that fucking Virtua Fighter April Fool's joke game? You remember that thing where was Street Fighter? Which one? Remember when Virtua Fighter V had the goddamn
Starting point is 02:36:12 like Street Fighter looking April Fool's game where everyone was throwing fireballs? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're going to get that April Fool's joke. Tech and Cross Street Fighter. That April Fool's joke. That's not a thing. That game would probably be really awesome now.
Starting point is 02:36:29 Actually, no, the Kuma super good. I don't know what it was called, but I'm fucking certain there was a portable thing that was teased years ago. That's not the original fighting layer that was a handheld thing and it had Blair Dame in it and they showed a video and it went nowhere. But they fucking certainly did. But they but they announced it went so nowhere
Starting point is 02:36:48 that you can't find it. Damn, it went to nowhere. You know, the location in sci-fi and horror or nowhere. You know, Guardians of the Galaxy. Silent Hill one final area save game. Lots of places nowhere. It's nowhere. Well, we'll just sit in silence while you try to find it.
Starting point is 02:37:06 Somebody just fucking send me a message on Twitter is that enter the gungeon updates coming out next week. Yeah, advanced gunjins and dragons. That's amazing. You got to say it advanced gunjins and dragons. Dragons. That's really cool. Yeah, I know it's the best name.
Starting point is 02:37:21 Okay. I hope they update the title screen to be even better. Yeah. I fucking love that little loading bullet that jumps into the revolver thing. It's so fucking cute. While you were struggling to figure out this thing that never existed, I took a look at the press thing
Starting point is 02:37:38 and the number one thing is they're making the game faster like to get through, which thank God. Cause did you guys play a lot of gunjins? No, decent amount. It took a while to get from floor to floor. Like rooms would last like a lot longer than they would in something like Isaac. That's kind of what you want though.
Starting point is 02:37:54 I mean, as going through it the first time. Yeah, but then like when you want a nuclear throne or Isaac it, you want to be able to get through each particular room in like 15 seconds. I'm extremely excited for that. We're running out of things to talk about. That's okay. That's okay.
Starting point is 02:38:10 Did he find that thing that doesn't exist? All right. That's Shrevegar EX early development. Yeah, good job. That's that shark person or whatever. I'll be honest. I barely know what you're talking about. I wish, I fucking wish.
Starting point is 02:38:24 Yeah, you're gonna look on Erika's official fucking YouTube channel. All right, this isn't. This is super not. No, it's not. This is not official. This is Erika FGC. This is some random guys fucking thing.
Starting point is 02:38:37 Yeah, but I think there's a possibility this for Erika FGC had the. What is the name of this character you're looking for? No, it's a 3DS game. Fuck. Or I don't, maybe it might not have been 3DS, but anyway, all right. All right.
Starting point is 02:38:49 It's 40 maximum. All right. So I'm putting a call out to everybody there at home. What is the thing you're actually looking for here, Willi? I'm looking for a video of a fighting layer game that never came out. That's not the original.
Starting point is 02:39:02 That was announced a couple years back and we saw a gameplay video of it. And then that was all that happened. You're not making the April Fool's joke, are you? It's years before that was even a thing. So that's it. If those of you at home find a video that you think matches what Willi's talking about,
Starting point is 02:39:19 it is your responsibility to hide it or destroy it if possible. Conversely, you can never get satisfaction. You could film your own version of what Willi described and make it real. This is like that, oh my God. Like there's like that, like there's all like, when it comes to fighting game shit,
Starting point is 02:39:36 I'm like, I remember this one thing. Like, like, what? I remember you blew like two hours trying to get a fucking sweep into a Shin Shoryu in some fucking CVS game. You are ridiculous. I remember that too. You are ridiculous.
Starting point is 02:39:49 I remember that. That was like 10 minutes. Yeah, whatever. And that was because, It felt like two hours. And it was CVS one and CVS two because they patched it out in CVS pro. And that's what it was.
Starting point is 02:40:00 So we were playing CVS pro. We were playing CVS pro. I were playing CVS pro. Because Joe Higashi and Dan are in it, but they took it out. But in CVS one at the end of the fucking James Chan combo video, he sweeps into Shin Shoryuken and they took it out.
Starting point is 02:40:16 Yeah, whatever you say, man. Anyway, that video that you made with James Chan and edited the footage. Anyway, so. It takes so much effort to do that. Why would you involve James Chan in your lives just so you don't have to live in a world
Starting point is 02:40:30 that doesn't have sweep in the Shin Shoryu? He used to go by J. Chen Soar back in the Shoryuken days on the old fucking forums. And it's a lot of work that you took to make that comfortable with that. Okay, well, fuck you. Now I'm just, now I'm just here.
Starting point is 02:40:46 Now I'm just fucking going in. We've got to look at this stuff. Now I'm just going in. What are we doing now with our time? Akira fighting sample project EX3. We'll wait just thoroughly. Fucking screenshot. We'll wait for real.
Starting point is 02:40:55 Just check your goddamn. It's here. This is it. You're looking at it. Scroll down, scroll down. You are looking at it. Scroll down to what? Enjoy a video from In July, 2011, a video from
Starting point is 02:41:06 a Rika 3DS test project Search for Fighting Sample Called Fighting Sample. This is it. Search for Fighting Sample. I know there's more. I did. I did. The search, I pressed back.
Starting point is 02:41:15 Fighting Sample was released featuring Hokuto and Kairi from the Street Fighter EX3 series. That's Blair's name right there, motherfucker. I'm not crazy. You went to all this effort. Look at that shadow guys. That's not the one that we got.
Starting point is 02:41:29 That's terrible. This was supposed to be... Your 3D modeling's come a long way. This is what they were fucking doing. When you faked it for this bit. At this point, I'm just going all in now. Because now you're at the point where you can't back down, right?
Starting point is 02:41:44 You have to stay in. What point is that? So much time has been wasted that you have to stay in. Well, you all, like, listen. If you're in a room with Matt and I, you can always back down. So if you fucking...
Starting point is 02:41:57 You can always back down. You go to YouTube, everybody, you search for Aureka Fighting Sample Project EX. And there will be tons of video of a fighting EX layer game that was before fighting EX layer that never came out. And it was going to be for the 3DS.
Starting point is 02:42:12 And this was the plan. I can see why they canceled it. But it's very close to what they had. So I feel like if anything, they just took what they had and worked forward. This is a really impressive prototype for a one-man effort. And this is...
Starting point is 02:42:24 I'm proud of you. This is this... And they had, like, numerous characters in it that were already fucking confirmed. So this is absolutely it. So there's a reason why this never came out, because you got hit with the Season Desist, or what? A 3DS fighting game is kind of a dumb place
Starting point is 02:42:36 to put it, quite frankly. Apparently, that version of Super Street Fighter was super popular. Street Fighter is the biggest success ever. It was, but for the first time you're bringing back your franchise, give us a stick, man. That's true.
Starting point is 02:42:47 Come on. Yeah. Most people don't play fighting games on sticks. No, it's true they don't. But... Especially people that would like a fighting sample. But let's never forget that Aureka, aka Akira, was the man who was like,
Starting point is 02:43:00 no, no, enough with this rainbow additions. No turbo. Slow is the way to go. And D. James was like, we have to speed this shit up, or we're going to lose money. No one can play the Slow Street Fighter anymore. Turbo is what we need,
Starting point is 02:43:15 because those games are what everyone loves. And Erika was like, nah, son, everyone loves it slow. Get back into your cage, Gaijin. And then they released Super Street Fighter, not Super Turbo, the first one, and it was fucking bad. Starting the long process of the Erika,
Starting point is 02:43:34 what would I call it? Lavishing in the fighting games squalor in the EX series that it has. Oh boy, EX plus A though. That wasn't even that fast of a game. EX plus A. That was okay. Super Turbo is pretty fast.
Starting point is 02:43:48 No, I mean EX games. Matt, what's happening with the wrestling games? Oh boy. Did you see this, Pat? I did. So 2K announced that basically, they didn't say this, but this is what they mean.
Starting point is 02:44:01 We did such a shitty port on the Switch that was late. It had a billion patches. And they're like, It's shitty even for these games. Yeah, like it worse. And they're like, we're not even going to try next year. So we're not going to port.
Starting point is 02:44:16 And I think their quote is like, we want the best experience possible. So the best one is none. So you know what this is, right? What is this? So EA did the exact same thing with the Wii U and FIFA a long time ago. And the basic deal is that I can see
Starting point is 02:44:36 is that when EA signed that contract with FIFA, with the NFL and all those sports companies, that contract includes a version of this game has to come out on fucking everything. It has to. It absolutely has to. But that doesn't mean it has to be good and only one has to come out.
Starting point is 02:44:52 They never have to support it again. That's why you get the Wii U got that fucking trash version of FIFA, whatever year. And then never again, because fuck it. I can see something very similar happening here where the WWE is, it's gonna come out on everything. You know, it's Vince, right? It's gonna come out on everything.
Starting point is 02:45:07 It has to come out. No, they're meant as far as I was told, there has to be one game a year. Yeah. Wow. And if your thing can't be out by then, like just cancel it. But I guess they don't put resources on the switch version.
Starting point is 02:45:21 Yeah, well, that's it. Trash bars. Yeah, it's just back to the world of, you know, Nintendo's in its own weird corner. And if you didn't get those dev kits and you didn't bother hiring people to know how to use it slash. But there are other 2K games are on there.
Starting point is 02:45:35 If you didn't put any. Yeah, dude, I don't know. Yeah, wrestling. Like you basically, it's like, okay, drop this port. All right, we've never worked with this before. You have to put a whole research team on it. I remember when Eidos had to do that for Deus Ex. At the end of the day, I don't think
Starting point is 02:45:50 these people are gonna be like, ah, I don't get to play one of the worst long standing series ever. So the the article don't improve. Article that Willie pulled up on Nintendo Life mentions that the switch version was fucked up. And part of the reason was they just put the engine they used on everything else on the switch
Starting point is 02:46:09 and it don't, it don't go. Don't go. So they'd probably have to make a new engine for the switch. And they probably looked at that went, no, fuck that. And why don't you have the fucking company that ports Wolfenstein in doom and shit do this? All right, what the fuck are they making now? They're making a thing just now.
Starting point is 02:46:25 Oh, God. We just talked about it last week. Just last week, we talked about it. Panic button, they're making a warframe. Yeah, they're making the war, they're gonna be busy with that for a long fucking time. Fair enough. Who are the two rock guys again?
Starting point is 02:46:37 Yeah, Night Dive. Night Dive. But they, that's kind of different. Yeah. They're taking the lead. No. Eventually this franchise, the two cave WWE games is gonna just have to get a hard reboot
Starting point is 02:46:51 with a completely different style of game. You should have done it already. And it sucks that it hasn't happened yet. That is not true at all. That is absolutely not true at all. Shit can be shit for as long as it sells. But every one of these ongoing things has a hard like developer or gameplay style
Starting point is 02:47:09 like change eventually. Eventually maybe, but that could be 50 years from now. Like the Madden games, you feel those from time to time, the 2K games, eventually that'll be a thing, but it's like the ones we've been all on since 16 is in our 15. I think it's been since 14. Basically what I'm saying is at a point,
Starting point is 02:47:28 they stopped building off the back of last year. Yeah. And then they can make a new, even worse thing. They did the last time they did that, when THQ lost the license. They did put out WWE 13. That was the last one, I believe. Then 2K got the license.
Starting point is 02:47:41 And since it's Yooks, changed almost nothing, but took out tons of modes. We still don't, Willy, we still don't have the creator anymore. Who cares? No one cares about creator wrestler in a wrestling game. No, the storyline creator that we used to make the fucking videos.
Starting point is 02:47:59 Nobody cares about story and wrestling. So you know what you do? I don't care about Sims and realism. Dude, dude, you take the shit out, you sell it, see what the price difference, see what the profit difference is, and go, oh, did it change anything? Did less people buy it?
Starting point is 02:48:12 No, you know what? Because wrestling fans are huge fucking marks. So, it's just the nature of it. It's not out yet, but I recorded a thing with Super Eye Patch Wolf about the state of wrestling games. The state of it. The state of it. And we go, one of the worst things to ever happen
Starting point is 02:48:28 in terms of like, aside from THQ just closing down in general, which was their plan, their gold plan of all stars. Next year, the WWE game, 13, the sim game. Then next year, call of duty it and have an arcade fun thing that's fun, and then have all your stats for your fake wrestler men's the next year.
Starting point is 02:48:53 That's correct. And then just go on from there. Hey, you know what? That would have been a solid fucking plan. Everyone gets their game and you get fucking two years to make it instead of fucking eight months. You're all such fucking marks that fucking...
Starting point is 02:49:06 Take that pitch though, and rephrase it in such a way that it makes things profitable. Okay. That. Well, no. That is profitable. Here's the issue,
Starting point is 02:49:16 is that fucking all stars sold like shit, didn't it? I don't know how it's sold. It did not sell enough for them to pay attention. I guess not. I can confirm that. Yeah. And other things. By the way, I spoke to some people.
Starting point is 02:49:31 Our perception of the only reason anyone ever cared about those old Def Jam games was for the gameplay is not accurate. Okay. So I had... I was saying that, I was yelled at. No, no, no, no. See, I was...
Starting point is 02:49:42 I ran into a lot of friends of mine that were like, no, I bought that game because Snoop Dogg could fight Method Man. Dude, there's a huge... I had a discussion afterwards about it and I realized there is a very clear point that I think was... Some people didn't catch, right?
Starting point is 02:49:57 Or it was obfuscated or whatever. Or whatever the case is. And that point was not that people showed up because of the Aki Engine. Oh, then people only cared still. Because of the Aki Engine. And that was lost on a lot of folks. So people were like, wow, Mooli's an idiot.
Starting point is 02:50:12 What are you talking about? I only... No one cared about the Aki Engine. They only cared about the wrestlers and rappers. And I was like, yeah. I'm not saying they showed up for the Aki Engine. I'm saying they remembered it. And I'm saying the reason why that Def Jam Twitter
Starting point is 02:50:25 chose that box as opposed to Def Jam icon box is because no one cares about icon after the fact. The people that played and liked Fight for New York stuck around because of that engine. There's a huge difference between the two statements, but I think some folks just like didn't... They auto-completed the information and got that wrong. I can give everyone at home
Starting point is 02:50:44 the an alternate reality version of that. People showed up to play Backyard Wrestling because it had ICP in it. But nobody remembers that game except for Matt, Ipatch Wolfe, and maybe me and five other guys because it had ICP in it and the game sucked. I just shot that I got a sequel. Yeah, it was shitty.
Starting point is 02:51:05 And therefore, I felt that Def Jam fucking misattributed the reason why people gave a shit about Fight for New York and Vendetta and so on to it simply being because it's our Def Jam rappers look at them go as opposed to the fucking engine that was there. See, that's the thing is when I was getting all fucking, we're gonna be talking about to work it up and talking about it,
Starting point is 02:51:28 it's because the reason why people cared. And the very simple fact that the game afterwards had rappers too and had a story too and had more people in it too and to create a character with more stuff in it too but was completely fucking ignored as was the follow-up Rapstar afterwards. I don't even, I didn't even.
Starting point is 02:51:47 No one gave a shit or stuck around. That's not even a fighting game though. Is, it was more of a- It's a Mike- Okay, or was, can we get- We would have played it if it was a fighting game. Can we get Vendetta and it's Def Jam versus Pop? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:52:04 So yeah, that was the difference, right? And it's a very- You came for the rappers, but stayed for the game. You stayed for the game play. It's really simple. Oh shit. Because you came for the rappers in Icon and you left for the game play.
Starting point is 02:52:20 Immediately, like unless you- I got really angry later that day when we said, hey, if you want to start a new LP and just show me a picture of Icon. Well, did you watch the trailer? Yes. Okay. That's some dumb shit.
Starting point is 02:52:34 That's some dumb crime time shit happening in there. Why would we fight? What the fuck? We just cut the fights out. Yeah. But, but- Oh, just final fancy rate it. Cut the fights out. But I'll tell you who stuck around though.
Starting point is 02:52:46 The people who've made their YouTube channels back in the day. Back in the days when you could just make a YouTube channel and just put Mugen fights on and people would watch it. Yeah. You would also put up a Def Jam Icon channel and just put like your creative character rappers versus each other and people would go watch them because, oh shit, look at that.
Starting point is 02:53:03 It's all right. What else is going on here? I don't know. There's a bunch of stupid shit all over. Hmm. I bet you- Just careful it. I bet you I could look at one stupid shit right now
Starting point is 02:53:18 and then be fucking dumb. How about the fact that the creator of District 9 is making a sequel to Robocop? Is that a sequel to the original Robocop? Ignoring all movies afterwards. Not the reboot. Was it he's supposed to direct a sequel to Aliens? Yes.
Starting point is 02:53:40 Yeah, but then Ridley Scott cancelled that. And then Ridley Scott like said, no, my movie takes precedence. Is Ridley Scott making a sequel to Aliens? He did. No. Or he was. No, he never did. But he was.
Starting point is 02:53:52 I'm just saying, oh, for me, this is not a sequel to nothing. Oh, that's fucked. That's what he must have been talking about. They were both on the fucking drafting table. They were both on the drafting table at the same time. But Ridley Scott gets like higher priority and Neil Blancamp's version that or whatever that he was working on or so like just got fucking scrapped because no.
Starting point is 02:54:13 That was supposed to be a sequel to Aliens. Yeah. Ignoring the events of Alien 3. But this is a rather the they decided to take the traction in a new direction of Prometheus and Covenant Covenant. All right. So and then Neil Blancamp walked away to blame for this.
Starting point is 02:54:34 Really sad. Sony and Marvel are fucking playing for this. Why? Because they established the precedent that if the character or the property is popular enough, you can fucking make a series and then reboot it and then trash the reboot with a do over. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:54:50 Yeah. It's a do over. Right. So the fucking Aliens franchise shit itself. And then he fucking did sequels and then they'll shit themselves. And then they were going to do a redo. A redo.
Starting point is 02:55:04 This this is yes. Or a sea boot. This is slightly newer where we are ignoring things and then we're making sequels to the good ones ignoring everything. I cannot handle. I straight up. No, no, no, not reboots.
Starting point is 02:55:20 Reboots. At a specific point in the timeline. Wally. Terminator did it. Right. Right. Red Letter Media did invent the term. It is a sea boot.
Starting point is 02:55:30 Sea boots. It is a sequel reboot. OK. OK. Yeah. OK. It's a sequel. But it's also a reboot.
Starting point is 02:55:38 But it's taking place like like Alien 3 like it or hate it is so old. And it exists that you have to acknowledge it. No, no, no, you don't. Listen. No. What? Shut up.
Starting point is 02:55:50 No, you don't. Listen, you if you think about it in your mind, you're like, man, I love Alien and Alien so much. And it ends there for you. You can like Alien 3 or not, but it's simple for a movie like a director, writer, producer to go. These are the ones people really care about.
Starting point is 02:56:08 So if you just insert one after that and try our best to make it good, we can. And for Terminator, it works especially well because time travel, who gives a fuck? OK. You can zip all over. Aliens, I'll admit, that's a hundred pill to swallow. Alien, I love twice as much as the next best Alien film,
Starting point is 02:56:27 right? If someone came along and went, we're just doing a sequel to that, that would technically be the thing that I should be as excited for as anything. Well, you need to play a Alien Isolation. They did that. It's called the Alien Isolation. I know, and I played it for a couple hours
Starting point is 02:56:44 and I didn't finish it. But that's exactly what it is. But what I'm saying, in a movie context, I just want to get to the end of my sentence. All I'm trying to say is that even as much as I love that first one more than anything else, I still have to acknowledge and let the fact that two and three are a thing.
Starting point is 02:57:05 And four. And four, you know? And at a certain point, four is not a thing. Here's the thing, like, there's a weird fucking the narrative arc finishes at three. There's a yes. There's a weird thing where you can go. There's a trilogy or their collection.
Starting point is 02:57:22 And then there's a time gap and then they retry it again. And that gives you like plausible deniability to kind of feel like, all right, if we ignore the new one, right, there's a gap that existed and the others were a tight package. Therefore, it's fine. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, totally. It's just a feeling.
Starting point is 02:57:39 It's not at all defined in a way. But you could choose that logical break point because you're not sliding a piece of paper that is this movie in between the two and three that are right next to each other. That's why they only do this stuff. They were they slide in the paper is after the last really good one that had close to universal acclaim.
Starting point is 02:58:00 So every Halloween after Halloween one is not great. So they said, this is a sequel to Halloween one Halloween, which is the sequel to Halloween two. That was the sequel to Halloween. Matt, how many Halloween twos are there? Right now, there's that's not the question. The question is how many Halloween are there Halloween? There's three Halloween's.
Starting point is 02:58:24 So it's not about the Halloween twos. It's about the Halloween's. Now, in this fucking case, though, you're just like, this is a sequel to RoboCop one. But it ignores two. It ignores two, which a lot of people don't like and has no real story links. Well, I mean, it does, but it doesn't. It's now my isolated story.
Starting point is 02:58:44 My brain is ready to accept if you if you decide to go fucking stupid and you just go, I'm making Rocky 3.5. Yes, I can handle that. You can. I can. It's stupid. And it's the worst idea. But I can handle that because you're like, it's 3.5. You know exactly what that means.
Starting point is 02:59:03 Right. But if you're like, I'm making Rocky 4 again. No, you'd make Rocky 5 again. But it's not Rocky 4. I don't touch Rocky 4. But you know what I mean? Like you just. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 02:59:15 So what would. OK, so Neil Blancam, again, for those that don't remember, he made District 9. He was supposed to direct Halo. And then he got the whole thing collapsed. He did. He had an original film called The Writers. The Writers of this.
Starting point is 02:59:28 No. Something over Jabarrow. Jabarrow, Jabarrow. Jakarta. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Jabarrow. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 02:59:39 That took you a second. Not Chappy. It's been a while. Not Chappy. Fuck. Alicia, I mean, made Alicia as well. I'm talking about something he directed before District 9. That's the thing that gave his job.
Starting point is 02:59:51 The Writers of Robocop 1 that are still alive. They're they're producing this film, too. Is Paul Verhoeven still alive? Yes. Good. I don't know what he's doing. I don't know what he's doing if he's doing anything. But this is I am excited for this because I like the idea
Starting point is 03:00:08 of a guy that's super passionate about the good ones that has a decent track record. Think about what you're saying. Yeah. A guy who's super passionate about the good ones is turning the series over at one. No. No, but what the good ones is one movie.
Starting point is 03:00:26 That's true. Alive in Joberg is the name of the thing. Yeah. I don't mind Robocop 2. I think it's decent. It's not as good as the first one, but it's a serviceable sequel. I'm not ready for this world. And furthermore, Willie, you've been in this world for a while.
Starting point is 03:00:40 If this is good and this causes this to become a thing, I'm just I'm so mad on a level I never thought possible. Willie, let's I've been. But it lets you ignore all the bullshit stuff. You say those don't count in future generations. You can say don't watch those. They don't count. So Terminator 2 has its sequel, right?
Starting point is 03:01:01 And fortunately, because of the naming conventions, that's Terminator, Terminator 2, then the Terminator. But what if down the line, someone else says, nah, I'm just making a sequel to Terminator 1 as if two never happen. Yeah. And that person's James Cameron, and he'll do it because fuck you. And all that happens. There's no rules.
Starting point is 03:01:21 No rules in the Animal Kingdom happen. You know what? You know what this is? I've already watched this happen at least twice with Spider-Man and the whole X-Men franchise is true. Fuck it up. It's beyond fuck. This is the mistake we made when I said, you know,
Starting point is 03:01:41 what would be funny to just call into the breach second gig? Yeah. Wouldn't that we just add we're like, we're throwing up into the breach again. I like, you know, it'd be a funny name. Ah, we're doing the second gig in Detroit. You open the floodgates on that shit. LOL.
Starting point is 03:01:56 It's just second gig. Oh, no, redo everything you open up a world. That was like, oh, I thought it was just a joke. Oh, no, that's the official name for this. And it means that everything that we've ever said we might go back to ever under any circumstances or even said that we wouldn't is now back open for business. Dude, I remember scrolling.
Starting point is 03:02:19 I'm like, someone's going to say something about the game at some point, right? The only comments are, boy, I hope they do XCOM 2 again. Oh, my God. Second gig was a mistake. Holy fuck. No, no, for real. A lot of people told us you need to redo Batman.
Starting point is 03:02:36 Oh, yeah, sure. The other Joker. No, and we revisited fucking Isaac and whatever. And like, there's a four out of three episode. There's a thread on there that wants a second go at Minecraft. Dude, like, we've taken it. We've done it. But just the naming convention, just there's a moment of.
Starting point is 03:02:55 Oh, and I'm like, no, I mean, no, it's not what I wanted. It's not what it was just a joke. Well, I mean, oh, God, we're drowning. Let's be real. That's how the name of this channel originally became founded. The two best friends play was the name of the video. And then it was the name of the second video because it was the second of that type.
Starting point is 03:03:14 And we're like, haha. And then we got contacted. And they're like, well, what are you going to call it? And we're like, well, that's the name that everybody knew. So let's just use that name. You know, and it took like five years to change one word. You can't fight brand. You God forbid the icon changes.
Starting point is 03:03:34 No better moment than like mission when people introducing us to a bunch of people. It's like, these are the two best friends. The icon is for a new one and just put it up. I don't I don't give a shit, dude. Like I but I understand what it would mean for people on YouTube coming and not seeing the red and blue and that's their use to over the course of years and have you be the top part
Starting point is 03:03:56 that's green someone someone someone good being a jaw. Someone photoshopped my scared face into the bottom corner. And I was like, that's not bad. I that's not a bad one. But I but people are used to what they're like. And when things are different from what they are used to. Oh, it is bad. Anyway, I'm all four sea boots.
Starting point is 03:04:15 I know they're scary. And it's not what you're used to. But I like them. Oh, my God, Matt, my ass is blown out. That's that's that's well played. I that was literally on the fucking heels of my last sentence. That is the tightest it has ever come back to me. Just keep it tight.
Starting point is 03:04:37 You just broke my racket in fucking Mario Tennis with a serve. Well played, dude. I got God. If you can really quickly really quickly, if you can get kill them all, Peter, up there really fast, we can talk about that's weird. That's super weird, right? Yeah. Oh, man.
Starting point is 03:04:57 How's your ass? Well, you're doing OK. That's a good blowout. You need every every once in a while. You got to clean what's out. So a week after we talked about what if the Punisher was just a better, different person? Marvel announces six issues of what if coming back,
Starting point is 03:05:14 all dealing with different heroes. And when people start posting this to me faster and harder than I seen anyone post anything to me, I'm like, what? That's just Venom being the Punisher. They already did that. And then when I looked at the video, I looked at the article a bit more, I'm like, no. The whole thing is, what if Peter Parker,
Starting point is 03:05:37 when he realizes that Uncle Ben got killed, he makes one small change to what Uncle Ben told him, which is with great power comes great punishment. And he becomes the spider that kind of thing. I hate those web shooters. Well, they shoot guns. They shoot guns. They shoot now. I know you're probably thinking they shoot.
Starting point is 03:06:03 Oh, he hates them because they're dumb. No, they're not dumb enough. I want I want web shooters that are like I want to almost go like the the bullets are in you. I almost like like the fucking organic version like he can just shoot bullet. I want bullet webs. That's less dumb to me. To me, that's more dumb.
Starting point is 03:06:25 I want it dumber. We'll see the origin of what these things actually do. And like he obviously made them because he's smart, whatever. But like I got really excited for this because I really looked at this design. I'm like, it's super sick in a dumb 90s way. And I'm immediately looking for this web shooters that are just more powerful so that there's normal.
Starting point is 03:06:45 But they rip through you like doppelgangers, razor webs that just cut the cut right of the cut webs. Yeah, so I just shoot a web shoot at you, but it doesn't fucking wrap you up. It just pierces. Oh, no. And that's it. I just love that kill them all. Peter is now totally real.
Starting point is 03:07:02 You made that just like how we all made Warframe. Yeah, you made that. So yeah, the other heroes are going to be dealing with magic ghost writer for and the X man. You're all welcome for Warframe. That was us. All October. Well, he helped very excited for Punish Peter.
Starting point is 03:07:19 That's a good alliteration. Punish Peter Parker. Punish Peter Parker. Get me photos of the Peter Punisher. What? The I'll never forget that. What if of like what if the Marvel Universe died and it just showed you how like blank comic book?
Starting point is 03:07:37 No, it was it was it was like it showed you how each hero got defeated. And I remember the one that always stuck with me is like Scarlet Witch. I mean, it's one of something I forget, but Scarlet Witch puts a bubble on the Hulk's head and he just can't breathe anymore. And then he just eventually fucking just blasts us out, becomes banner and then just gets fucking murdered. Frank Castle just shot Bruce Banner in the head.
Starting point is 03:08:00 Yeah, it was a good plan. Solid. Oh, you know what? I had a problem with Punisher Hills, Marvel Universe, because he just threw a Wolverine in an electric fence. Yeah, I wasn't a fan of that. You're supposed to drown Wolverine because he can't swim because he's too heavy or park a steam roller on top of him.
Starting point is 03:08:19 That would also do it like it. Now, that's like it didn't. That's not going to kill him. But what's he going to do? But it will give him plenty to think about. Sit in a bathtub for two weeks, screaming as his body regenerates. Fucking road roller.
Starting point is 03:08:35 And last but not least, I want to point out this really rad thing that came across my desk. You have a desk. There's a gentleman named Christian sitting at a matski. And this is probably going to hope and I can just pimp this and blow it up a little bit. He's creating the Necronomicon for real. What does that mean?
Starting point is 03:08:55 Someone needed to do it on a patriot. Oh, he's a Miskatonic librarian. That's appropriate. He is. Or that's a tear. So what what what he's doing is he's making leaves of the Necronomicon to completion. And I'm trying to find where is he grabbing
Starting point is 03:09:13 the primary source from every existing source material to the point of completing as much accuracy as possible. Going through everything as translated and all of its source material like you can read through this full page. But it is Christian M. A. T. Z. K. E. And he's releasing these as leaves, right? So he's making one leaf a month. And it's and what a leaf is, is four pages bound together.
Starting point is 03:09:45 So front and back, front and back. And in theory, by the end, you can you will be able to bind these into a full eight hundred page book. Yeah. What about the human flesh? He is also that's going to be a hard material to get. They don't really sell that Omar to Sarah. He's also aging the pages manually before sending them to you. So it's not made out of flesh.
Starting point is 03:10:06 And you can bind them in flesh if you want. Yeah. Well, where are you going to get human flesh? Well, you figure that out. He's sending you the leaves. I guess that's my problem. Right. And but you're getting you're getting the aged pages and you can find you can handle the binding in whatever way you want to. But again, it's it's it looks up like a pretty fucking serious endeavor
Starting point is 03:10:25 that's going to take a while to complete. I think he's got four done so far. And I thought this was a rad product. I would like to point out that I am a. I am a skeptical person and I am not a superstitious sort. That being said, what could go wrong? Well, one of the one of the fun posts was here is a sneak peek at leaf four and a glimpse at some unfortunate souls
Starting point is 03:10:48 who moved their lips while reading the incantation. And it's too. It's a statue of two children reading the book and fucking frozen because that's the mistake you made. Well, those are an arm on her shoulder. Like, oh, let's just sit around and yeah, the neck row, dead children. That's how you sell your book, folks. So yeah, men's motherfuckers taking on the the Harkelian task
Starting point is 03:11:09 of actually making as accurate as possible a real necronomicon. They said it couldn't be done. I'm down for it. I don't get it. Got to get it signed by Bruce Campbell. I'm I'm down for it. And then that's a big old groovy Bruce Campbell on the cover. Groovy.
Starting point is 03:11:29 Someone else will start a Patreon for the flesh covers that you can. Yeah, that's another tier. You know what, there is a way to do that legally. Actually, but it'd be insanely expensive. Well, if you want, like, how are you going to pull out your own for a second? Well, here I have friends that are tattoo artists and they draw on pigskin and you can buy pigskin to for tattoo purposes. Human flesh. Well, then.
Starting point is 03:11:52 And pigskin's real you would have you would have you would have. All right, cadavers exist. You would have to buy people's cadavers, premortem. Yes, create a scientific institution that allows you to have them shipped to your place. Yeah. And then go. How does that do? Does the bodies exhibit?
Starting point is 03:12:06 Get them bodies. Body worlds. I know, I know about this because I went and I was reading a lot about it. And people that gave that sign. You sign a sheet up of that says, take my body when I'm dead. I don't care, man, right? And 90 percent of the time when people side that and he goes, hey, I'm here for the body. The Pam, the family or the parents go, get the fuck away from me.
Starting point is 03:12:29 My my child is dead or my whatever signed it. They're like, that's fine. You can keep your kid's soul or whatever, but I just need that flesh. He signed the thing, the pound of flesh to me. And they're like, they can't get it. So they're just like, fuck this, right? But there are right to steal that corpse. But there are institutions you can if you donate your body to science,
Starting point is 03:12:46 if you donate your body to crime, crime labs, they'll use your cadaver to help solve crimes. There's all these places you can do it as long as you can get past the grieving parent obstacle. They're probably weakened by the tragedy. Absolutely. You probably push past them. No problem. I mean, at the very least, just just wear him down a little bit. You know, and then you get what's rightfully yours.
Starting point is 03:13:07 Yes, legally. I'm not even joking, though. If I signed a fucking document and said, hey, give my body to whatever, I'd be fucking pissed at my relatives, not giving my body. I would haunt them. But they would they would. There's a possibility they'd be shits and not let people that get the body get the body. So, you know, yeah.
Starting point is 03:13:27 I want my body catapulted at the building of a company I don't like. I don't show them. That's like that Pita Pita lady who's like, send my eyeball to this person to show them that I'm always staring at. You know what? That's fucking cool. Send my send my ear to this politician so that he knows that I'm listening exactly. And just throw it on the rubbish bin.
Starting point is 03:13:49 That makes me want to bake my death and then do that with other people's body parts just to freak people out. Or you can be the real the ultimate badass. Diogenes, one of the original philosophers who sat naked in a tub for most of his life because fuck it, who cares what is life anyway? And like basically was like, with their like, what do we do with you great philosopher when you die? And he's like, I don't give a shit.
Starting point is 03:14:12 Throw my body naked over the walls and feed me to the wolves. And they're like, OK. And what an easy to deal with guy. And Alexander the Great was like, that's a fucking badass. Oh, right there. If I were not Alexander, I would wish to be Diogenes. What is the Scott? He's fucking cool. What culture did the sky burial?
Starting point is 03:14:32 Because that's fucking cool. Sky burial are red. Wow. I don't know. You familiar with the term? No. It's throw me up on top of the tallest fucking thing you can. So all the birds come at me. That's a good way. But what when I'm dead, though, don't do it before. Yeah, I really don't. That's that's not.
Starting point is 03:14:51 That's not the thing I want. Although the burning boats are classic, right? Can't you? That's a nice. You get a nice little lantern in the distance out of that, especially if there's a hidden compartment for you to hide. And then you can just. No, man, you know what? I want troubles would put some treats. You know what? I want to happen when I die.
Starting point is 03:15:09 I want to be extreme embalmed and have myself posed in a bunch of wacky situations for photo ops. That's some weird. That's some weird shit. A treat compartment would be mandatory compartment. That's some weird shit. That's some letters on Carouse. Yeah, if you have a letter, tell us about how much you like
Starting point is 03:15:28 Don Carouse and it's a super best friend cast of Gmail.com. That's super best friend cast of Gmail.com. Oh, man, the fucking spark sprinkle vanilla flavor was the best. So you know what? It would say whatever. So bring back the dunks, motherfucker. I fucking hated the chocolate one, dude. It was you've burned that one in that image of that old man.
Starting point is 03:15:46 Yeah, no, because it just works with any old man. It's the old man of the marketing. Just what are the dunks? I you know, the chocolates. I was no, no, it was really bad. No, the vanilla was because you think I'm getting like a nutella. And it's like, not even and I say that as somebody who would always pick chocolate over vanilla.
Starting point is 03:16:01 Yeah, I never picked chocolate over vanilla, but that was one of the worst cases ever. I'm like, no, like this is awful chocolate. If you're if you're from Australia or New Zealand or one of them places that has been in them. Dunkerous. Yeah. So I bet they don't have fucking Dunkerous. And I want to know about that.
Starting point is 03:16:18 I want to know what Australians think of Dunkerous. But that's like they don't have that. They have Tim Tams. Yeah, I know. Yeah, but that's like them having America flanks. That they don't got that. You'd that'd be cool. It would be. I mean, the red, white and blue, honestly,
Starting point is 03:16:31 like walking past the treat aisle in in New Zealand was like they've got their own world going on treats. Yeah, they have a lot. Spiders on sticks. Like those pies. Like we actually like that's the one thing. It's like, you know, is this a food? No, it's just spiders on sticks.
Starting point is 03:16:49 You know, when we go to the states and we were like, oh, man, look at all this choice. Yes, like that's the thing going over there. I was like, well, it's a whole new world. It's a whole new world, but it's still had as much variety. You know, when you we are we're limited in our in our choice. I'm just I'm just giggling at this fucking stupid thing
Starting point is 03:17:05 that I saw Matt retweet earlier today. It's like, you go out of the States and you see that fucking cat waiting by the cauldron for its loops. Yeah, that's. Oh, man. Oh, it's a picture of a fat cat waiting at a cauldron. OK, OK, as I demand the loops, brother. Oh, yeah, you see, Hulk Hogan's back in. Oh, God. You see that shit.
Starting point is 03:17:33 W.E. just forgave Hulk Hogan forever. Back in. So I saw. What's this fucking? What was it again? It was. Hulk Hogan needs his loops. Terry Bollia. Terry Bollia make this someone. It's the fat cat, but it's got the bandana and the glasses.
Starting point is 03:18:00 The glasses. Yeah. Hulk Hogan is the hero of the American 10 minutes. Hulk Hogan is the American hero. Yeah, Terry Bollia is the one who said all those bad things. That's true. If you can, if you fire mankind's other personas, but he comes back as McFauley, that's that's illegal right there. Hulk Hogan has the 10 inch magnum dong, but not Terry. Terry Bollia. No, I got to say, that's a I was talking about that
Starting point is 03:18:25 like two days ago. That is the most fascinating legal defense ever. It wasn't me. It was my alternate ego. You mean you? No. Well, who gets paid, though? Well, I do. I do. Well, Hulk Hogan does it for the pride. Yeah, he doesn't get paid.
Starting point is 03:18:41 He gets paid in the love from all the Hulkamaniacs and their wives. It was fucking it was it was it was radio. I want his brother. All right, we got one coming in from Adele. Wow, from the Adele. We roll it in the deep right here. How did you like Skyfall?
Starting point is 03:19:09 They're super best friend ends. I work at iRobot, the people that make Roombas. And today a co-worker and serial enthusiast sent me the below email. Actually, this one to every employee at the company. Oh, boy. In the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one person to introduce diversity into breakfast routines. My girlfriend's dad swears by a daily bull
Starting point is 03:19:30 of rose and raisin brand. Yeah, we've been subjected to lack of diversity in the serial department far too long. New serials are introduced into the market each year at a rate in accordance with Moore's law. Our serial game has fallen behind. Oh, I'm sorry. I read a Facebook post the other day that suggested that the greatest
Starting point is 03:19:47 of our founding fathers, Benjamin Franklin, would switch daily between Quaker Oats and what was then the revolutionary era version of Honey Bunches of Oats. Why then is New Englanders? Should we be limited to the same three bands of serial for years? It's a good question. Hence the efforts of the it goes on. Yes. But I think the point in the fucking proletariat manifesto.
Starting point is 03:20:10 Oh, God damn, it does go on. Is there an overarching? The overarching question here is. What is your new and Brent invent a new brand or flavor of serial? What is it called? And what does it look like on fucking sugar crisp of consistency, gold and grams? I'm going to go white chocolate Reese's Reese's.
Starting point is 03:20:42 The fuck is the Reese's serial called again? Puffs, Reese's Puffs. Yeah, white chocolate, white chocolate puffs. I have I have long since pleaded with. Yeah, no, that's the cat for the loops. I have long since pleaded with the makers of Reese's Puffs. Like for fuck's sake, you can do other shit. Like there's a new type of serial.
Starting point is 03:21:01 There's a new type of lucky charms every day. So yeah, white chocolate, maybe have a banana in there as as like a special flavor for like, you know, anything that is surprisingly good in most cereal. Yeah, so we were talking about that for ice crisps and stuff. But yeah, those are good choices. Something about like a slice of it when it's coated with cereal flavored milk just fucking tastes so good.
Starting point is 03:21:24 Oh, it's good. Damn. I like McMussles Munch, which is basically just a bunch of shapes and cereal like in marshmallows. Are they untruable and awful like Ninja Turtles or Mario cereal? No, they're they're pliable, like like Lucky Charms cereal. But the marshmallows are not all that sugary. And I'd like those to maybe taste like bananas and I'd like the crunchy bits to maybe taste like peanut butter.
Starting point is 03:21:58 Good peanut butter, too. I just thought I also win things by eating. I just thought of another one. That's pretty good. OK, so old ass fogies that fucking can't keep it together because they're falling apart inside, eat the giant ass. Weedabix brick. They just, yeah. What if we had a height brick that was like full of marshmallow and treats like break it open and it's got good shit inside?
Starting point is 03:22:23 That's neat. Right. OK. You said you had a new brand. That's a new. So you put the it's like it's a whole other. It's a whole other world because you put the single chunk of flake. It's not like it's not cereal. It's like a treat with milk around it. So you have to get into that. You have to get a big crunch, berry fucking thing.
Starting point is 03:22:40 And it's got all this good shit inside, but you pour the milk on it and you crack it open and you start going in. How about like that? I'm like, I'm just like for like like lucky charms. I have the crunchy bits. So how about you have like just that, but there's different brands that have different mixes and it's mixes that make sense.
Starting point is 03:22:56 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, like it was like chocolate, peanut butter, whatever. But we try to think outside the box. Yeah, yeah. Um, French toast, crunch. Yeah. Yeah, pops, pops. I've had, oh, you know what I've done? I've done honeycomb and because, yeah, I mix, I mix stuff sometimes.
Starting point is 03:23:19 I've done honeycomb and and Cheerios, honey, not Cheerios. And it's worked out. Yeah, yeah. Like honey, but not a bunch of notes. Um, God, whatever, the flakes that have a bunch of stuff. But sure, mixing the tiny toast, blueberry and strawberry. Very good. Mixing.
Starting point is 03:23:36 Frosted flakes goes with a lot of shit, too. Yeah, because it's generic. Yeah, you can do it. Sweet, but yeah, like muscles munch. I like your idea, though. OK, innovative. OK, OK, we got one coming in here from Dilly Dally. One, two, three says, hey, oh, super best questionable quote machines.
Starting point is 03:23:56 Recently went up to Under Night in Birth on the recently got into Under Night in Birth on the Vita and the continue screen is greeted with the message. You are the loser. You have a choice not to give up to prove your invincibility insert coin. Yeah. This got me thinking there's a few time in my younger days
Starting point is 03:24:14 when the arcade had cabinets with mandatory. It's got me thinking a few of the times in my younger days when arcades were still a thing and the cabinets were mandatory at Longermats, when my friends were playing rhythm games, I would make an obnoxious noise on coin insert. Hell yeah. And the group of the one playing, eventually leading to the spectator sport of trying to insert the coin while both players are playing
Starting point is 03:24:35 the game to aggressively defend the slot. What's your most memorable impressive message you've seen that prompts you to enter a coin? I've got two that come to mind. The best and probably all time greatest is the arguable phrasing of let's get crazy, Marvel versus Capcom one. And second place goes to welcome to the D&D world. Welcome, welcome to the D&D world of Shatters over Mistara.
Starting point is 03:25:03 Yeah, that's going. I don't have anything that comes to mind. Alien versus Predator. Time to hunt, time, time to hunt. To hunt. Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty good. Oh, if the Terminator 2 arcade one with the Uzi would be like, excellent, excellent.
Starting point is 03:25:22 And like, you just. I'm going to answer for Pat and say when you put the quarters in to a fucking virtual fighter machine, you get the most satisfying AM2 noise. Yes. Yeah, that noise equals joy arcade. I have not put I have not put a coin into a virtual fighter cabinet in 20 years. But that noise is uncontested.
Starting point is 03:25:48 Also remains in all versions. Come on, make virtual fighters. Come on, don't don't even. But uncontested. That that's the guy that is actually that's like, like, oh, that's the greatest defeat I'm way past. Yeah, that's no. That's the number one.
Starting point is 03:26:02 That is absolutely the number one. But we can't also forget about our favorite. If I can answer for you, Matt, you know. Street Fighter, the movie. I forgot. All right. Any other questions? Yes, I'm just grabbing it.
Starting point is 03:26:25 That was really fast on that Hulk Hogan Photoshop, everyone. I appreciate it. Good, good, good. Michael says it's been too dear to former testers and a pat. I've been playing games all my life, and I recently had a thought before last gen, we didn't have a way to do day one patches and fixes on consoles. That's correct. The way the game shipped is how it stayed.
Starting point is 03:26:46 Same for a few exceptions like San Andreas. Yeah, cartridge reprints would sometimes you couldn't ship a game without breaking bugs with game breaking bugs and massive performance issues because there's no way to fix it. Now it's rare to see a game ship without a day one patch and many games are unplayable or at least severely damaged without the patch. The main example I always think of is Evil Within. Yeah, that's one of the worst.
Starting point is 03:27:06 My expanded. My main question is with your experience in QA, do you think the quality of pre-release QA has gone down with the advent of patches being so readily available on consoles as just something I'm noticing more because I'm older? It is literally a combination of both. Yes, because patches exist. More gets right. The possibility to do high priority things can become lower priority in the moment
Starting point is 03:27:31 because you can fix it later. However, you forget all the games that used to be fucked up. One, a lot of games used to be fucked up. But two, the test process, the the process of completing a test case, getting through a checklist, completing every aspect of a game's like functionality has complexified so much with new games. Every gen's a new order of magnitude, pretty much that it is that the human limit of how much you can do, like even with a full,
Starting point is 03:28:03 you have a full test team, you go to nuts on it, but the amount of effort required to catch all those things is exponential to what it used to be. Because after the game comes out, you're still going to be doing it for a while because you have to test every patch and then compare it to the previous version. Like it's a nightmare. Think of almost any fighting game and not fighting it, sir, any multiplayer game that's come out in the past five years. You get a full QA team on it, gameplay to everybody, right?
Starting point is 03:28:28 The whole team's playing it. It's get it's out for like two days. Somebody somebody finds something super fucked up and broken and unfair immediately like that same thing with MMOs, anything multiplayer. There's just not enough people that you can hire. I the earliest console that I got into QA on was the GBA. And I saw GBA compliance guidelines and such. And I remember going over those and seeing it was a single page, right?
Starting point is 03:28:55 The amount of everything that you needed to do to release this game. Was one page of effort. GBA was not a complex machine. And when you go back to like the fucking days before that and every like you have to understand testing was still it's always a Herculean effort. But the degrees of magnitude were way lower on a on a basic platforming 16 bit game. We're saying as soon as memory cards like removable memory cards became a thing that was like the new order of complexity.
Starting point is 03:29:26 OK, so memory cards, the cons. Yes, the concept of saves, not just being the cartridge itself is huge. 3DS, 3D is huge, right? Music and tracks and sounds that are like loading in that are again, not just playing in a in a in a in a loop, right? Changes the game, loading screens, change the fucking game. Once upon a time, there were no loading screens, the whole fucking game in memory, right? So that change like so much becomes possible to break with the new
Starting point is 03:30:05 with with the difference between old gen and new gen and like and like games just being more online and getting like patch like getting the ability to have as many patches as they as they can afford is like kind of the new like benchmark of complexity at least in the last couple of years. Think about it this way, folks at home. Say you want a pound of nail into a piece of wood, what do you got? You got a rock, a rock's good. That's fun. That'll do it.
Starting point is 03:30:30 Just hit it, right? What if you put that rock on a stick? Now you got a hammer, right? But now the rock can break off of the stick. Now it can break. It couldn't break before because it was just a rock. Now do that a billion fucking times. You know, so all that to say that, like, yes, to some degree,
Starting point is 03:30:45 it's gotten bad in terms of like the fact that you can just put a patch out and let things slide, but you do have to understand a lot of old games. Just that it was not as hard to catch all the bad bugs. The end, you know, and to that degree, when we played like a handheld games, it was interesting because handheld games in some ways, it would be like, OK, so from a functionality point of view, they're almost always infinitely easier or like mobile games are almost infinitely easier because you can do everything in the game in like a week, you know?
Starting point is 03:31:17 Yeah. But but models of phones made that also complex, a completely different other way. And the process of having a system that can go to sleep at any time, reawaken at any time, have a Wi-Fi button, any any console that could go to sleep. It's like a wheel and switch. Pull out your memory stick, put your memory stick back in, right? Like all of that complexifies again, the situation like it's not. It's kind of a weird balance.
Starting point is 03:31:45 It's really easy to test a new one like the Super Nintendo classic. And like that's not much room to fuck up there. Oh, people found out of people hacked it. Sure, for sure. But in terms of like a mass market, you have to test it. It's like, can't even can't do any day one patches on that either. And last but not least, we got one coming in from George. She says their role, Canadian Kilted Yaksmen.
Starting point is 03:32:11 Nice. I our country. Of trees. A few years ago, I started getting into River City Ratsom as a series, but as a Yaks of hype train started rolling in, I finally tried zero myself. And I realized I natural progression. It did everything I enjoyed from RCR, but better, despite that, I couldn't muster the slightest bit of regret or disappointment because it felt less like something I had enjoyed and more comparatively
Starting point is 03:32:35 like the thing I had already enjoyed had been upgraded. Yeah. Do you have any personal experiences of something you enjoyed getting completely overshadowed, becoming completely obsolete, but you don't mind at all because the new thing is that much better? I mean, I didn't personally enjoy I am sad enough from what I played. Yeah, yeah. Octopath like invalidates that game.
Starting point is 03:33:07 The jump, this is going way back, but the jump from Syndicate to Syndicate Wars was fucking like I love Syndicate so much. But Syndicate Wars was so great that it was just like, yeah, I don't mind. I really I don't mind that replacement at all. I didn't put as much time. I haven't personally played Path of Exile, but I know there's a lot of people out there who feel that way about Path of Exile and Diablo in which Diablo kind of fell off.
Starting point is 03:33:33 And then Path of Exile just went in the direction that they wanted it to go instead. I mean, any sequel really is almost an easy answer to them. Yeah, but those don't even count. Yeah, it'd have to be like a Path of Exile kind of cheats because Path of Exile is made by the people who made Diablo 2. So it's more Diablo 3 than Diablo 3 is. Where are we saying about sequels? Sequels are kind of nice.
Starting point is 03:33:54 It's very easy to just say the second version of a thing is better than the first one. Yeah, you don't need to double my cry one after you get the second one. Why do you like second impacts? Great. Oh, we got third strike. Well, you know, so duh, right? It has to be like at least a spiritual successor. So, you know, there are parts. Series is very similar.
Starting point is 03:34:09 There are times when I forget that new generation and second impact even exist at all. Huh. Yeah, there's definitely some of these out there where you're like, I don't mind that the old thing is is is done because this new thing replaces it. But then you kind of still want the old thing anyway for what it does, right? Like I I the hype I'm getting for Bayonetta 3 is not the hype for day the MC5, right? Those are two branching franchises at this point. We all got lucky on that.
Starting point is 03:34:36 That goes super different. Plus, you got like a good Bayonetta sequel not too long ago. And you haven't gotten like a good Devil May Cry since you know what? It's not quite the same emotion, but Dragon's Dogma tickled that a little bit where it's what it's not Monster Hunter, but it makes that the fact that Monster Hunter isn't coming hurt a little less back when that was up in the air. Like all Dragon Ball games like I'm good. That shit's sorted out.
Starting point is 03:35:08 Yeah, that's not fair. Yeah, it is. It's it's very unfair, but that's the way it is. Though I have I have said it before. It's like I particularly care for Shenmue, but I haven't played much. I've played at a friend's place for a couple of hours and the Yakuza series absolutely did that for me, which I felt it controlled better and was more interesting overall.
Starting point is 03:35:28 Yeah, yeah, I mean, I guess that's the other one who is writing to me on social media about Dead or Alive and Virtua Fighter can fuck off. Fair enough hurts every day. I feel like I feel like there's one right there. Yeah, I'm trying. I feel like there's one right there. Capcom wanted that to be the case with DMC from Ninja Theory, like like like a fucking a Marvel game that just replaced, you know, warframe and destiny with another warframe
Starting point is 03:36:03 and destiny is the one to one on that, or it's the same kind of thing. It just it's just better and it makes you feel stupid for liking the first one in the first place. Damn, all right. Well, anyway, a while, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, the closest thing I'm getting is you guys in play it. But Ion Maiden, Ion Maiden, Ion Maiden, the that for a build engine spiritual successor makes it really hard to go back to the actual old build
Starting point is 03:36:32 engine games because it's like it in every way. It's just better and but it's not a sequel to it. So that's that's bad. And I'm judging that based on a demo, you know, a long demo, but it's it's there. Like, yeah, they're not the Shelly, whatever, the main character of that, maybe not as iconic and as memorable as like Lo Wang or Duke Nukem. But I mean, she's she's good. The Dragon Ball Fighters doesn't replace Marvel
Starting point is 03:37:02 because Marvel had a completely different like gameplay, especially but it does infinite style gameplay. But it does replace it. It is your hyper game. Yes, you know, moment. Sure. Um, you know, there's all blaze blue and guilty gear. Remember when guilty gear got replaced by blaze blue and we were all
Starting point is 03:37:19 happy to see guilty gear go? There's a void. That's right. That's the response. There's a void for I want to say two types of games that I have. And but it mainly one, though, because I there's a gap in my life for persona for arena that are persona for ultimax that I'm like, I need. Oh, there's blaze across some philly battle.
Starting point is 03:37:43 Five arena waiting, waiting for Racky, waiting for five. And oh, I know one. Last play to is but last play to also is in that samurai showdown place as well. You know, I would love for there to be an actual and we got close with a few little games like Slice, Dice and Rice, but an actual Bushido bladed successor. That's an obvious that could.
Starting point is 03:38:06 But there's not one that I know of. No, like 3D exactly what it was doing. But there is a new game that is in the barrel. That is a one hit one kill samurai game that we're going to take. One strike, I think. Yes, exactly. So that's that's there, too. It's still different, though.
Starting point is 03:38:23 Absolutely. Absolutely. Oh, yeah. So the one I said is like Dante's Inferno just completely replaced the classic God of Wars. I think for a lot of people, you know what? If we're allowed to use sequels, I'll say that Zoe one doesn't matter anymore. Yeah, it's it's it's it's sequels are easy. But but that's so invalidates that's the hardest it's ever been.
Starting point is 03:38:46 Zoe one might as well just not even exist. But but can I be real for a little bit? Like Sonic one is so much worse than Sonic two. Yes. Yeah, you know, kind of get argument for me. But now before Sonic Mania, I played all three of all four of them back to back to back. And guess what? Sonic one fucking sucks. So what do you mean all four of them?
Starting point is 03:39:05 One, two, three and knuckles. OK, yeah, that's the fourth one. That's correct. And and yeah, so like you there's hard invalidations that happen from time to time for sure. But yeah, man, all right. Is there a Kirby game that is there? Kirby game has a similar thing that just destroys return to Dreamland.
Starting point is 03:39:25 Sorry, not return to nightmare in Dreamland is a is a remake of one. OK, so you don't really, you know. So that means you just don't have to play Kirby anymore. Ever again. And then all joy is gone from your life. What's coming up? What's coming out? Exciting, a Kirby video is coming up and coming out. Oh, where is that? Kirby lore tour is happening soon.
Starting point is 03:39:45 That'll be over at Wally versus. I'm also finally got the good audio together for the dreaded encounter. So that should be going up to what the fuck did I hear? Automata continues on the nine s. Play through and. Naruto, Naruto. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:40:08 You love Naruto. Yeah. Hey, you catch this week's hero academia. No, I was gone. Hey, you're going to like it. Cool. It's one of those weeks that people are going to bug you and go, this is for you. I'll do it. Isn't it right on it?
Starting point is 03:40:22 No, but a certain character's journey to becoming more like Kamen Rider every day is in it. And that's good. Everybody likes Kamen Rider. Yo, Matt, what up? I said, I don't think I would be streaming unfortunately for the next couple of days, hopefully next week. But other than that, I talked about the other week.
Starting point is 03:40:44 But it's a reboot of a previous LP. But I'm going to be starting no more heroes to second gig on on Friday. That'll be going up on that muscle swap house on on on Friday. That's when we fucking super fuck that needed some because some of that LP had unhearable bad audio. Oh, my God, I even did it. I'm doing RE2 again and I didn't call it second gig. But that's totally what it is.
Starting point is 03:41:12 And part of the reason I did it is because of the audio is fucked up on the old one. Oh, God. And you have a different perspective. Follow me. You know, when soldiers stand or die, there's a remake coming out and there's a new No More Heroes game coming out. So it makes sense to to.
Starting point is 03:41:29 Yeah, that was my mind and might and might not be. Some people might not be used to it. But to be fair, man, at least it's a fucking. Hey, that Yoko Kano second gig song is great. It's great. A lot of yeah. Over at Angriest Pat's on Twitch, I'll stream something this week.
Starting point is 03:41:48 I know I've said that the past couple weeks, but everything's been a mess. I'm really busy lately and I'm very apologetic. I'm also having a lot of trouble sleeping like a lot. Like I'm on no sleep today. Like I couldn't sleep for shit last night. So probably not going to stream tonight. Thinking about Octopath Traveler.
Starting point is 03:42:02 Yeah. In regards to future second gigs for this channel, I was just thinking, when we're done all of the Resident Evil games, like all of them, when we've LP'd all of them, which we'll probably never will. Well, that's the real glass break. We could just, we just start redoing all of them.
Starting point is 03:42:22 I mean, right now, currently of the Resident Evil games, we haven't done Remake. We never actually finished Remake. Why stop? Let's just put all survival horror on the list and go, what's survival horror hasn't been like? Let's do that Silent Hill 2. I'll pee over again, fuck it.
Starting point is 03:42:36 No, we haven't done, we haven't done. To be fair, I don't think we've done a survival whole LP since Evil Within 2. That's correct. That was like last year. Yeah, so we're missing, we're missing RE1 and Remake. We're missing Code Veronica.
Starting point is 03:42:48 Six and five. Shattered memories, right? So which of those do you want to announce for this week? How about five? Yeah, how about we just do RE5 this week? So we'll be doing RE5. That we'll be recording that. I don't know when it'll be up,
Starting point is 03:43:03 but hopefully the next couple of days. Operation Raccoon City. Fuck you. Numbers, numbers on the game. Number has to be on the game. Resident Evil Gaiden, you might as well have said. That online one. Dead Aim.
Starting point is 03:43:16 Gun survivor. Dead Aim, I've told this story before, but Matt and I sat down and recorded almost an hour of Dead Aim and then got up and fucking threw it away and went home. You just polluted it. There was nothing. And that was the only thing.
Starting point is 03:43:30 Oh, that's the best. That was Matt came over to my place to record it and that was the only thing we were supposed to record that day and we threw it the fuck out. You know what? Okay, you know what though? I think here's, I think we have proof positive that we've leveled up or leveled down.
Starting point is 03:43:46 That doesn't happen anymore. Oh no. It's been a long time since we've popped something in and there's nothing here. Because usually- Now? We get five minutes in and we're like, fucking. Now we know how to handle-
Starting point is 03:43:58 Because usually we just go, we've done worse. Yeah. We can put this up. No, we've learned how to handle nothing and we know how to keep it going long enough. I don't know. We didn't do that day. That day was, we didn't know how to keep it.
Starting point is 03:44:12 Like, no. Did you see that the Superspy is on Switch now? I did. I did see that. What? Fuck. Superspy was a video William and Liam did and they were like, yay, that went pretty well.
Starting point is 03:44:23 Oh yeah. And then it just, it got fucked. That was the camera, that was the lapel mic test or something? No. No, this was like years ago. That was just the video said, go eat ass. Go eat dick ass.
Starting point is 03:44:34 And I'm like, well. So we'll be also returning, of course, to Detroit. We had a bit of delay in front of the session. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean- We're gonna do that tomorrow. Shoot people with guns. Look, we've explained it, but it doesn't hurt to explain
Starting point is 03:44:46 again that quite simply, there were a period of days in which we were all not available in a row. Yeah. And that continued so that the only things we could record were not Detroit. Yeah, that's why you got into the breach, which only did a fucking great job canonizing a term for the channel forever.
Starting point is 03:45:08 I remember, I was in the, I'm looking at my phone went off that night after we did it. And you said that you were talking to, you're talking to Billy and you're like, yeah, just call it second gig. And I looked at it went, yeah, that's probably fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And didn't think to say anything.
Starting point is 03:45:23 And so I fucking love this game, right? So I'm just like, oh man, I like, I like watching it back again. I'm like, oh fuck, I can see all my mistakes, right? Well he won, so what else? No, no, I know, but I'm just, but I'm just like, I'm like, ah, that could have been better there and so on. But I'm waiting for like the into the breach heads
Starting point is 03:45:38 to come out and be like, oh dude, did it. And just, I want to like teach me some stuff. I saw everybody be real happy. Yeah, but I want to, I want to people come out and like teach me, teach me some stuff, you know, and everything. And I'm just scrolling and I'm like, no one is talking about the game.
Starting point is 03:45:51 It's just. You named it the same. It's just, I'm my ex called second gig. And I'm like, oh no. Look how good Woolly, the one that I saw that was about the game was, hey, look at Woolly doing really well compared to Pat in strategy or RPGs of this type.
Starting point is 03:46:06 Why don't have Woolly go back there? So he'll probably be in it. No problem. The second gig was a mistake. That he practiced shit loads. Nothing but track before. Oh man, I played so much of it. I never.
Starting point is 03:46:20 Also the council, I'm sure everyone hates it, but. Oh, it's getting, it's getting that weird group though. I'm sure it's not the least watched. Some people are way in. Oh, I'm sure it's not. No speaking of which, that's also made by focus who did vampire. So all they make is weird, super natural ish, British 1800s
Starting point is 03:46:43 games that also do in the call Cthulhu game for fuck's sake. Yeah. No, the council's fucking weird. Yeah. That's a, that's a left field pick right there. But it's, it's a, dude, I chortled just thinking back about set and the rep and people talking about people talking about set references coming back around like days
Starting point is 03:47:03 later, I'm like, oh my God, I forgot. Like, oh, there's some good shit, there's some good shit. Um, yeah, man, that's going. I guess that's all we'll announce for now. Yeah. Well, TMS continues obviously. Obviously. And we feel like we're getting there towards the end,
Starting point is 03:47:21 I think. I can say this. We did Barry's latest side mission. Did that not go up yet? I don't think it did. Are you sure? Cause I feel like we can hear about it a little bit. I haven't heard anything about it.
Starting point is 03:47:35 And that's why I don't think it went up yet. Okay. What did you do? No, people have really looked up a thing where people said, wait till they get to that side. That side quest is coming. And or, oh boy, here comes Barry. And I'm like, all right guys, we've no, we know this game.
Starting point is 03:47:53 The game of I can't wait for them to see blank means, yeah, you spoiled it. That'll be pretty cool. Probably. But it won't be what I'm expecting. No, it wasn't cool, but that's not why people. That's not why people said that. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 03:48:06 This is the, you just get to the, like, oh man, all the, it's the buildup. Right. The whole time we've been laughing about Japan doing Japanese things and the anime culture anime tropes, et cetera. And then at some point back in the day, it's like you get echoes of mirrors of Liam going,
Starting point is 03:48:24 oh man, I fucking, that game was great, but I fucking hate Barry. And they're like, what's the deal? He's such a fine guy. Up until that point in the game. Is Barry that guy that they tell you is cool, but he's not cool? No, not even that.
Starting point is 03:48:42 Multiple occasions. I believe I shouted, yammer oh, oh no. Wait, there's also the say without saying anything. It's like me and Woolly are going, no Barry, but the game kind of congratulates Gary. And says, hey, that's okay. We'll just continue on. Kawashitai.
Starting point is 03:49:06 All right, we're out of here. Kawashitai. Bye. Da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da. Da, da, da, da, da. Number 11. Number 12. Number 16.
Starting point is 03:50:49 Time to make a sacrifice. Be rise above. I'm a soldier prone to stare. In this way you can lie. Witnessing more than I can confuse. Pray myself, people, don't forget. Life betrayed and we are great. Please give me the strength to be the truth.
Starting point is 03:51:34 People face in the fire together. If we don't move the moves, I'll be a fraud. Secure of tears for the day. When my pain is far behind. On your feet, help me feel. Be a star of your tomorrow night. Secure of tears, take your place. Save them for the judgment day.
Starting point is 03:52:09 Just stay free, follow me. And to make this sacrifice. Be rise above. Be a star of your tomorrow night. Just stay at the end of the road. Just stay here, you can save the world. Be a star of your tomorrow night. Secure of tears, take your place.
Starting point is 03:53:19 Save them for the day. Now I have a new dream. I'll be a fraud. Secure of tears for the day. When my pain is far behind. On your feet, help me feel. Be a star of your tomorrow night. Secure of tears, take your place.
Starting point is 03:53:54 Save them for the judgment day. Just stay free, follow me. And to make this sacrifice. Be rise above. Be a star of your tomorrow night. Be a star of your tomorrow night. I'm a soldier, so it's me. And to make this sacrifice.
Starting point is 03:54:59 I'll be a star of your tomorrow night. Be a star of your tomorrow night. Just stay here, you can save the world. Be a star of your tomorrow night. Just stay here, you can save the world. Be a star of your tomorrow night. Secure of tears for the day. When my pain is far behind.
Starting point is 03:55:40 On your feet, help me feel. Be a soldier, stand or die. Secure of tears, take your place. Save them for the judgment day. Just stay free, follow me. Time to make this sacrifice. Be rise above.

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