Castle Super Beast - SBFC 258: Our Lord's Canon True Thug Time Zone

Episode Date: August 8, 2018

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Starting point is 00:00:39 What's up? I'm still raspy. You're still asleep. You guys have good reasons to be asleep. That's a bad reason. When you transition from a devil time zone into Jesus' time zone, it's rough. Where do you come from the west coast to the east coast? The Lord's zone.
Starting point is 00:01:01 When Jesus came after the resurrection to do all that crazy shit in the Mormon stuff, he landed on the east coast. Yeah, he was like fucking bad boy for life. He's like, we gotta get those west coast motherfuckers and then we're gonna make these gold plates and they're gonna talk. You know what those plates say? They say fuck the west coast. He ripped off his red sash and then he put on a blue one to rep the crypts,
Starting point is 00:01:22 to rep his set properly because Bloods can't be doing that anymore. Wait, Jesus invented the, what? Willie and I were at Max's Evo panel just to jump ahead a bit. East coast, east coast, east coast. Yeah, I don't fucking know. It's fine. And then fans asked for something and then Willie came up and said something on the mic and then there's something about a challenge and I go up and I do my piece
Starting point is 00:01:47 and I just, this whole group of either Nevadans or people from all over the states or the world but it's like mostly people that are probably on the west coast and I'm like, all right, here we go. So, if you know Max's not too sleepy, you know, like, because when you're on the canon time zone, the time zone that Jesus lived in and this entire crowd, boo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna kiss my fossils. It's the easiest, like you don't even hear what's going on. You don't know what's happening out there because we're in the back.
Starting point is 00:02:19 All you gotta do is grab the mic. Shit on a time zone. It's the complete reverse of the city pop. Shit on a time zone and kiss your muscles. Since I was behind you, I couldn't hear what you said. You said something that also got some heat. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Two time zones that matter, Greenwich and East Coast because it's the Greenwich median line
Starting point is 00:02:38 and it's the fucking UN because it's like done. Like Greenwich, Meridian, yeah. It's like, it's the date line and it's the one the UN's on. So all them diplomats and fancy leader people from all the countries got to think on East Coast time. Someone asked. Yeah, with it. Someone asked Steve, someone asked the whole room like what your like your biggest salt moments were, right? And they went around the table when I got to Steve, he said the MK9 final challenge,
Starting point is 00:03:03 boss rush because that was some bullshit and went into it. And so like, yeah, I just grabbed the mic. So I just grabbed the mic afterwards and went, it wasn't that hard. And everyone was like, ah, you made a dumb challenge that was easily crushed. Like, and yeah, you get the proper like, like, you know, the, um, the indignation cell of like, like it's the microphone cell that you get from in the ring. When someone says something and you're aghast, you can't believe what was said. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Yeah. And time zones is good at that. Time zones is like, no, they're just like a concept. It's just like, they're not real. They're not real. It's just something to make us all work better together in harmony. We lived. And I'm like, ours is better.
Starting point is 00:03:46 You ever seen a map of the time zones and how fucking weird they get around certain lines? Once upon a time we lived on a planet that was all one shape and color and size and everything was all great. And it was one big time zone. And then everyone, then they started dividing the, and putting these lines on the maps to go, nah, we need everybody in their own time zones. Tell you what, dude. Yeah. Back in the day, pre time zone, you know what was missing?
Starting point is 00:04:09 Humans. Without humans, there'd be no time zone and no disparity. There you go. Dinosaurs don't know nothing about no time zones. Animals have like, oh, it's daytime, oh, it's nighttime. I don't care about what happens in the middle. And there's those stupid animals that live in total darkness and they don't know shit about fuck. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Use human constructs to upset humans. This is the way of things. Is that the nature of trolling? This is absolutely the nature of trolling. Because if you really weren't using human constructs to upset people, the only other things that could upset people are like taking away their ability to survive. If you're not stealing someone's food, denying their ability to breathe air. Your children are starving.
Starting point is 00:04:49 And perhaps shelter. There's nothing that should really bother you. Knock your sticks out. That's what, then, someone like, yeah. I said it. Someone grabbing them like, yo, all your children are starving. Boo. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Makes no sense. I ate your children's food and I wasn't even hungry. Oh, see? Now that's a threat. That's a real troll. Yeah. That's when your fucking throat going in there. I ate it and it was so bad and I had to throw it up because my tummy was too full.
Starting point is 00:05:16 But if it's just this part of the map sucks and stinks more than that part of the map. Boah. Oh, look, I made a map of the world and over on this part on the West Coast partner stink lines. Oh, no. Oh, fuck. It's like it's like it can just be a concept as long as you say X is better than Y. Like sports teams are like East Coast. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Like, yo, our pants are better. Sure. Sure. Boo. We have fire. We cook our meat. You just eat it when you kill it raw. Yeah, West Coast.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Start cooking your food. Yeah, the roving tribes of the West Coast that hunt for food. Jealous. Jealous of our cooked meats. Fuck y'all. We just got fire. Get on our level West Coast. Yeah, we have that.
Starting point is 00:06:06 We got lots of water. Prometheus gave the flame to man. He said East Coast. Oh, man. East Coast is Beast Coast. And then the fucking Greek guy gave it to who's hanging out on the fucking Mediterranean and went, huh? And he went, don't worry, man.
Starting point is 00:06:25 East of Greece. East of Greece. There is no fucking East Coast. It's all North and South Coast. It's like a rectangle. You can be Northwest, East, South. Come on now. It's a cut.
Starting point is 00:06:39 I don't know. Actually, no, that's not true. Maybe. What? North and South Pole. Yeah, fair enough. You can only go north or south from those locations. You can't be much more north or south than that.
Starting point is 00:06:49 The West Coast was about to discover fire and then that's when the flood hit. That's when it was like, no. I was riding in going, fuck this. Can't let that shit happen. No fire for y'all. History. Accurate. Look it up.
Starting point is 00:07:05 That's what happened. That's exactly what happened. No, it also comes in. He's just like, by the way, in and out is OK. So what you're saying. At best. It's all right. You can eat it.
Starting point is 00:07:16 So what you're saying is that Jesus sent the dinosaurs to eat the sticks and fire that the West Coast people had discovered. Keep them busy running from the dinosaurs so that they never get on our level. Said Jesus. That's what happened. They don't even see it yet. Like the dinosaurs sit down on it or since the dinosaurs so big they just get in the way of fire.
Starting point is 00:07:34 All the West Coast. What's going on? What's going on? What's that? Is something glowing over there? I don't even know what glow means. Am I smelling? Is that smelling something good?
Starting point is 00:07:43 Good to me? I don't. My nose is wrinkling from a prickly sensation. Ah shit. It's a stegosaurus. Run. Damn. No.
Starting point is 00:07:53 It's a fire blocking you. Back to building a house with my own feces says West Coast fans. Fuckers. I'm going to say like back to making my own house out of feces says Tupac. He's dead. You can't admit. Oh yeah. No.
Starting point is 00:08:10 We're in the past. Right. Okay. Past or future Tupac or the future Tupac. I mean dead Tupac. I don't know. Tupac. The once said future cake.
Starting point is 00:08:19 West Coast heaven is also kind of shitty. I mean look. East Coast heaven. Thug mansion is what it's called. It's called Thug Mansion. Why was Mike Ross in Cognito and Evo? Well you see what happens is when the. I thought eSports was dead to both of us.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Well it's quite simple actually. It's like when you break off right and from Gutex and Gutex kind of goes and becomes. To the future. So Gutex goes to the future and yeah and brings what he brings in its full eSports capacity and Mike Ross goes in the complete anti eSports route. Goes rogue. And he shows up as Childish Gambino. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:00 And he's like. What's happening? He grew his hair out a little and he's got a white T on. He is trying to be as no. And he entered as somebody else. Something else completely. Yeah. I think Hitomi Tanaka's was his name.
Starting point is 00:09:13 No that was someone else. That was someone else. But yeah man Mike Ross came in to play his game. Guilty Gear. And he played it. Really? Yeah and he happened to end up on stream so he played that match. And then he got up and he pieced.
Starting point is 00:09:24 How do you do? I don't know. No wonder he quit eSports. If he got up and he pieced then you know. I think he did alright. But then he left and he was like I'm out yeah. He came to play and you know. I thought you hated eSports Mike Ross.
Starting point is 00:09:36 Sonia B said that you've been at a party for so long that you're like. I've seen this party. Yeah. I've been to this party. I'm just going to do my thing and then just leave. It's again it's also like the side by side you can go get those J Cole pictures of like a couple years back and then now you know. It's after you've seen the truth.
Starting point is 00:09:56 After like they take you downstairs and then they open up the files and they show you the things that really happened. Here's the dark secret history of fighting game tournaments. Dark secret. And then. This is the real reason why Bison's never won a tournament. You stop shaving. You just fucking go fuck it.
Starting point is 00:10:13 That's part of it. I ain't coming up anymore for what. Yo. I'm so excited to talk about evolution. Hey. Are you guys all right if we talk about fighting games for a while because a lot of this is the week where we talk about fighting. So not only will we talk about it a lot right now.
Starting point is 00:10:29 We're going to talk about it more later too. Yeah. All the character. I certainly hope you guys are okay with that because I'm very excited to talk about a lot of the fighting game things that happened in general and to me and in life overall. Because this was the week for that. So yeah. This is a good evil.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Evil cast. It's always a good evil when there's controversy. And there were many. Hey. Hey. You know the funny thing about whatever controversy hits and it happens pretty much it's happened every couple of years like I've been there has been that you're on the tournament floor and doing your own thing and having your own experience.
Starting point is 00:11:08 So you generally might not catch any wind of things that go down and people blowing up online and going like oh my God can you believe it. And I'm like I'm just here. That's over there. I was at this setup playing and having like I don't know what's going on. You know like you don't catch events too large to see all of it at once. It is. And the only thing that like the internet is what's required to get it all like sourced
Starting point is 00:11:32 together because when you're there you're still just having a personal experience and mine was a really good time. Telling me you had fun at the fighting game thing. Well I mean I mean like so there's a million like little things to discuss. You were not in the controversy. Maybe next year. But they're like they're like there was one there was one controversy that I that I that popped up and then there's so many more non controversies and just awesome shit to talk
Starting point is 00:12:02 about. Would you say they can we call those non traverses. There's non traverses. There's controversy. There's a so happy with this. There's a single controversy and then there is two non traverses. Okay. I'm parsing in my head which one you.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Yeah. There's a there's a couple. So I'm which I'm only aware of two. I'm only aware of two as well. Then what which one should we talk about those first and then get into the other. Absolutely. Okay. Because it's the hot button topics.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Yeah. One. So I say the I say the the two that come to mind. Let's start with the fake or the not big a deal. Yeah. It's the Sonic Fox one. I find that I've been hassled a lot about that. Yesterday when I streamed Street Fighter over and over and over.
Starting point is 00:12:41 What are your thoughts on the Sonic Fox side switch Matt? What are your thoughts on the Sonic Fox? Well to just to just you know sort of I guess introduce the thing. So I'm at Evo a Dragon Ball fighters the grand finals. It was a Sonic Fox versus Koichi and you know as the two best players on the planet like they played it out and effectively Sonic Fox after a set decided to ask to switch sides if possible from player two to player one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:10 And there's that's there's nothing in the rules that's against making a side switch. So you want to do it and they go no and you do a coin flip. And he did it and then he saw and then they switched sides and then he did it. Playing fighting games as a kid people would ask that like oh I don't want to start on that side. Give me the first player control. And after it's in the previous game Goichi had won and then Sonic Fox went after the side switch Sonic Fox went on to win that one to then win conclusively as well.
Starting point is 00:13:34 To then win the tournament. Yeah. And so that's so that they're they're following that comes like a lot of hilarious memes where it's like every other player is a tier. Then S tier is Sonic Fox S S S is Goichi but then triple S is Sonic Fox mirrored on the other side. Right. Just the same image flipped over and you know all that other stuff.
Starting point is 00:13:53 I mean personally I like not only do I not see that as an issue. It's something where it's like people go back to the character select screen sometimes just to waste time. Yeah. Right. Just to stop just sometimes they do it to get back their own like thought process. Sometimes they do it to break your heat. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Right. So when it was going on it was to I was watching with a bunch of people and it was pretty much decided upon by it was like it looks like he's stalling for time. Right. But if you want to stall for time you can just fucking stall for time stall for time on the character select. He wouldn't have to do the the side switch. Looks like he genuinely wanted a side switch.
Starting point is 00:14:32 The only reason it looks like he intentionally blew 10 minutes is because for some reason the To's took forever. Yes. Decide. Yes. What to do because it was unprecedented in terms of that because that hadn't happened on the main stage in that way process should have taken 45 seconds because it's there's a coin flip involved.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Because quite simply like yeah things are things at that point are so like set in like making sure there's no possible you know error type thing that they're really paranoid so they have to double check and triple check every decision to make sure nothing's going to happen that'll cause a real controversy later. Yeah. And so that extra level of bureaucracy that comes from trying to make sure nothing weird happens here or like you know no no weird stick like anything you know we plugged the stick back in but it wasn't plugged in all the way he didn't plug it in himself.
Starting point is 00:15:21 It didn't work. Yeah. It cost the grant you know any bullshit. So that level of thing costs some time and so it creates this gap and then like a lot of folks who are at home kind of not fully understanding the situation going oh he stole from time he cheated he didn't go eat you would have won if he had kept his heat. And I think that's like Sonic Fox said it himself the best which is like to think that the side switch is all it takes to win or lose against the player of that caliber is
Starting point is 00:15:46 incredibly disrespectful to Goichi as a fucking beast of a player as he is trivializing it down to that shows how little you understand what was happening. Maybe Goichi lost a little momentum but like never forget that like Goichi and Sonic Fox got to winners finals and Sonic was the one who sent him to losers bracket. Yeah. It's yeah. I mean look there's it's not like Goichi asked while I would prefer it a Sonic Fox war his furry mask while playing and then he goes no I don't want to do that and then the all
Starting point is 00:16:19 the attorney organizers go there's nothing in the rules that says so a coin flip or gonna have to do it or like someone's at a home team game and then the away team the away team decides to switch their jerseys to their home team versions and then results change and then you're like why no quite frankly and here's the funny part to be perfectly honest I most depending a lot of the time it depends on the game but I usually go for the second player. Same here. I prefer it.
Starting point is 00:16:48 I don't know why. I know why and I'll tell you why. What is the reason you prefer it. Well it's the reason why many players prefer it. It's the same. You we all share the same thing quite simply execution is more consistent rolling forward than it is rolling back on the player two side when you need to when you need to confirm certain things like supers and whatnot.
Starting point is 00:17:06 It's like you should be practiced up to the point where it shouldn't be you shouldn't be dropping shit right. But as a basic level principle thing doing a super on player one side of rolling from down to forward your wrist rolling in that direction versus rolling backwards you tend to just roll easier going out the other way. It just happens more often you know it's just I don't it's a really weird minor thing but it happens to be the case and I noticed that I'm yeah I'm not the only one who notices that when I go into training mode and go OK when I do happen to whiff a super or something
Starting point is 00:17:42 I whiff a moment I tend to whiff it more on this side than that side and it turns out yeah that's an FGC white thing so people tend to do that. Corey gaming did a really good video on this specific thing of player one versus player two side and why for 2D fighters. Right man but for Tekken and for virtual fighter it fucks people up to place two player because the tracking on 3D movement and the side stepping directions exactly and there are coin flips before also every fucking big man also reacting to you back in like it doesn't matter as much in this new Tekken but in the older Tekken you got to react to the throws where certain
Starting point is 00:18:22 hands would go up so the left hand goes up you're taking left right hand goes up you're taking right both hands there's both buttons you know so you have to have that stuff as well and this does apply to pad it's not just a stick thing it totally applies to pad as well you know I prefer facing right on pad and I prefer facing left on stick I always prefer facing right on either I don't know so you know and I mean in some cases like feel safe yeah well either way like you'll probably notice if you ever jumped into training mode and tried doing a bread and butter over and over and over and over again right like and 100% of the time on one and 99% of the time on the other I mean just I'll do it until you get some drops and then see where more
Starting point is 00:19:01 than most of the drops are happening and they'll never play on that side well no it's not that it's just like extrapolate that number that you just did in this little experiment take that and multiply that training mode thing by a thousand for someone who plays every week to grind to get at a game to get good and then you'll kind of eventually start to see oh yeah it happens there happens to be a more consistent side for me you know it's it's a natural thing I have a sneaking suspicion that a lot of the folks yelling that sonic fox is cheated are mad that that's a black gay furry one evo like definitively I mean that's a better fucking fursuit doing the gohan post no that's a better story but it's not the truth of the matter I think
Starting point is 00:19:42 oh I saw a lot of people mad than a furry one evo I saw a lot oh yeah sure but I think when anyone ever wins or whatever and there's like just a minor thing like this people always put it under a microscope way more than they should well no you'll just if the results weren't what you wanted then you'll try to find any reasons to discredit it but again it's the same way it's the it's the same thing as like anyone like anyone in a chat stream calling someone on grand finals ass for dropping a combo it's like that do got to grand finals you're calling him ass you sitting at home like it's a whole thing that's like yeah it's kind of part of it you're you know what I mean like you're rooting for your side so it comes with the territory I had this fucking
Starting point is 00:20:20 but I like acknowledge it for being light it's not it's just not a real controversy that's fucking mental delirium that doesn't exist of like daigo and to keto and all the sf5 guys hanging out with sonic fox and him going hey I heard street fighter five's good is it good never mind there's no games trash you shouldn't play it don't play it it's garbage you wouldn't like it son he wins everything he wins everything he's he's absolutely the new justin wong um back in the day that's what it meant basically one's like you know as justin entered everything when justin was just like absolutely cleaning up back in the the pre-o nine it was grabbing marvel he was everything everything he touched everything yeah third strike sd with cvs2 like it was just
Starting point is 00:21:04 like domination you know and um yeah this is this like anyone who's been paying attention to sonic fox is kind of seeing like this is what it was like you know and I mean goichi is that as well like he's been an anime god you know in japan for years too so like both of these players are just kind of like using their consecutive experience and all other types of fighting games and the difference between an anime fighter between uh or like it was sonic fox a difference between nether realm games skull girls it's not like you couldn't get further across from each other in terms of fighting games it's it's yeah so you know god damn that dude is is a beast um quite literally actually raw but that's yeah that's that's that's the what that's the first one that's the
Starting point is 00:21:52 nontroversy that's totally an controversy but people are like people are very we're gonna see that forever now yeah and then the um and the other one was the uh the smash four grand finals which um i i missed okay right i missed this uh and i only caught it after i got back oh and um the only real thing i i the what i caught was an explanation video that um um omni made basically on he made a late omni video basically explaining what happened with the bayonetta drama at evil 2018 smash four grand finals and what essentially the short version of it that he describes in uh the video that i'm using as my point of reference because um if there's more to the story i spoke to some people so if i have anything yeah isn't in there well i mean to you
Starting point is 00:22:45 know to describe it like uh uh going going based on like what was reported in this video like more or less two bayonetta players made it to grand finals and the smash four community hates bayonetta so um a lot like crazy like i did not know about this before so this happened so uh you know that well i mean that it's been very like it's been quite loud about like how much bayonetta there there's been but in any case so there was a kind of like a feeling of like man like fuck this grand finals people were leaving the the event center as soon as it sort of happened and stuff and yeah they were getting booed they're also they also booed the um the smash ultimate announcement because it was a date for the smash direct as opposed to actual information oh no i have to wait
Starting point is 00:23:30 a week um and so in this grand finals effectively after uh having a set these two play the two bayonetta players in grand finals are really good friends and they uh and to the point where someone uh accidentally uh someone accidentally lost a stock i think this fell off the fucking yeah but someone fell off the edge and lost a stock but like pure technical and so and in and in like even though this is grand finals at evo they still use like home rules and basically like gave them a homie stock which is like oh you died unfairly i didn't beat you i'll i'll kill myself too that's and even up the stock right that's what you do sometimes with playing casuals but in basement king oh excuse me friendlies yeah but uh yeah it was to that level but anyway after the the set
Starting point is 00:24:14 went out and everyone was and after they're getting booed and whatnot there's a moment after the first game uh where the players kind of talked to each other about what's going on and just kind of said you know what like well these fuckers right these fuck haters they kind of just collectively said you know be hilarious fuck the haters let's do some shit and then the next game started and once it did both bayos just basically started charging their shots and held them there and decided to just not play and they said fuck it let's troll evo right you guys hate bayo fuck you right um they kept it going and like the so the the thought was going to be like okay is this actually going to run the entire time around like what there's no rules to stop that
Starting point is 00:24:57 about a minute later the the the judges come on stage and go no you guys have to play you can't do this i can't play yeah it was also saccharized birthday um and it was one of these moments where it was basically just like this this makes everything looks like shit oh yeah for smash this is a really bad look because the players are doing this and you know what if they decided to taunt and troll in the beginning and do a little goofy thing and then play i think it would have like i kind of expected that to happen but the fact that they decided to keep it going for over a minute met like oh no they were actually planning to run the clock out and just be like ridiculous about is over the top it's a stupid thing to do it's a really dumb thing to do especially like at a
Starting point is 00:25:41 major thing like this but they're doing it in response to like getting like treated like shit in the community as well so yeah that's the part that i want to fill in a slight detail is they're on stage and they're getting booed because they're picks and people are yelling at them apparently those booze followed them the whole tournament even from pools as soon as they would pick bayonetta yeah people around them would just start shitting all over well that's because that's what it is and like in that context i can understand getting the grand finals and hearing more booze and going i'm in grand final and this happened this happens in other game this happens in other games so to like not to this degree but like there's definitely like levels of like
Starting point is 00:26:25 you know play coming into like blah let me just switch trains menna won capcom cup with birdie in what people consider like illegitimate play because it was so just like grinding the game out you know it was just like oh my god this birdie is just doing bullshit and it's working and that was hilarious and you when you told me about that birdie player i'm like yeah right and and to the point where like oh yeah well the second part of that story is that like he picked his his costumes i didn't throw that in the docket because there's so much of his shit to get it to but he picked the new the new costume so remember the awesome samurai nikali that was the first year capcom cup because the winners get to pick their own so yeah that was like a kazanoko i believe and then the
Starting point is 00:27:13 next year knuckle do wanted with guile and he gave guile the um the he gave him the the outfit with like the skull mouth and then the full like trooper uh military uniform uh and then menna gave uh birdie this year he just dressed him up like himself and birdie just he looks awful and it's just him as birdie and just to pause the story we're gonna go on a little tangent um but totally worth it but it's worth it because um when i saw the costume i was like yeah yeah yes uh let me see here uh costume the this because this is like the equivalent of what it's like with bayonetta in the um in smash the new outfit they gave yeah so it's just him dressing birdie up as himself and putting the capcom cup trophy on the end of the chain awful and that's literally all they did
Starting point is 00:28:05 and like they even have the haircut so that he has menna's hair traditional traditional haircut he's just wearing like fucking khakis and like a white he's wearing the shit that menna wore right and it's the ultimate leading into being the villain because people hate the way you play yeah it's the worst and he's it's leading into it it's like give me all your hate says menna um so anyway that type of thing happens in other games and then in the bayonetta case it's been nothing for a while that we've heard about for sure that you know you go into evo and like the further you get into your pools the more people are crowding around to watch you fight other people and then bayo just keeps making it up there so yeah they've definitely been like well this is shitty
Starting point is 00:28:42 and and whatever but they're used to it because if you continue to play bayo in wind tournaments playing bayo in this type of type of environment then like you're a hundred percent embracing the villain role because this is so typical of smash where it's like now this is getting so granular and so like actually shitty where it's like you know the final destination fox only blah blah blah and this is like the ultimate form of that so it's like no you cannot play a character that might have some pretty good combos now well here's the problem though here's what what sucks is that like good things that happen in smash in the smash community will get overstated by shittie moments like this right because equal this weekend levin who who won this and decided that the plot
Starting point is 00:29:26 the because the pot payouts for um um um in melee that is the pot payouts are so garbage for anyone who's not in top three uh decided to share some of his winnings with fifth through seventh place right to split it up because basically they won like a hundred and thirty dollars that's nice right and it's like the the the pot splitting of uh i believe 60 20 and then the 20 gets split amongst five people is garbage now i will have to say that part of the reason why that gets overshadowed is that levin deserves the credit for that not the smash community the smash community screaming booze and shit at these guys for like a three-day weekend that's totally on the smash community so so it would have to be because that's hundreds or thousands of people it would have to
Starting point is 00:30:15 be the crowd like the smash community crowd being like split the pot yeah that's the only way that and and the and this that story gets even more complicated to double tangent in the middle of this main one but that the the pot split thing like when they've done that in the past it's resulted in people going oh man top uh first place gets nothing this shit sucks right wow what a bad idea and like there's literally been complaints the other way where they're like well we made it more even for the rest of the top eight and there were complaints that like the top players weren't getting enough of a payout based on that so it's one of those things where it's like the real way to make everyone happy would be for there to be more pot bonuses oh i thought you were going to
Starting point is 00:30:58 say like stop fighting games would be there to be more pot bonuses that come from um sponsors and such but like when you don't have those you just you can't always you know bank on someone be having a corporate interest in it so you have to go on the split and the split is a it's a troublesome thing to kind of figure out when you're getting boot on both sides either way in this case though this is an awful look it may it made the smash well i'll may i'll make the distinction fine i made the smash for community look really dumb and yeah but if melee had a character like her it would also be well that's the best thing about melee there's never any new characters that's true why would you ever want any new characters melee it's just perfect so i i didn't know you're gonna bring this
Starting point is 00:31:41 up i was gonna i thought maybe it was one of the most smaller things but i saw a lot of people make big stink about um problem x not getting to say anything once he won street fighter five whereas all the street fighter five champions of oh i didn't notice that he didn't give him some people were like well what the fuck why does he not get to talk okay well because it was like two in the morning uh well that's what people like well because it's lame they're like really 30 seconds would have made it yeah yeah okay i didn't i didn't catch that at all because um to be perfectly honest like we were so last i left during finals yeah i mean yes and you know and i and i honestly i realized too well i was gonna get into that a little later like i realized that like um you know
Starting point is 00:32:25 you it's a lot to ask someone to sit in an event center for four hours watching high level play it's it's you know like you're either engaged and excited by that or you're not and there are no equivalents to this the excitement of new announcements for characters is always a really fun pop in between but the rest of the event is something that i realized that maybe i'm just like oh man it's the best and it's like oh wait it's not for everybody i'm like oh i kind of forget that sometimes so it's totally what time did the first top eight start so uh seven a.m was when the doors opened eight a.m is when uh i i want to say melee started or be right or either that or BB tank that's assuming you care a lot about many different fighting games that's a lot it is a lot
Starting point is 00:33:15 on one day to ask last year when i went i went for street fighter and it was the the simple four hours at the end and it was by the end i was like oh that was a run oh boy coming in now to catch the end of tech end all of dragon ball and then immediately all of street fighter is a 10 hour day because dragon ball is really long to watch yeah dragon ball went long well i mean tech and went like everything started on a delay i did not catch the tecan finals apparently they're fucking incredible yeah they were but but i mean like that's that is that is more or less just taken for you what you what you did catch i'm sure is the fucking uh announcement that followed yeah you know so there's like it's one of those things where it's like we can so i mean like we
Starting point is 00:33:59 could just go blast through this but i also would like to talk about actual evo and a personal i'm sure you would too because you know so like we can't we can't just get straight into all that but uh yeah it is a lot to ask to be the point is to be sitting in that arena for the four hour the two hours of the four hours of the next four hour block and then so by the end when you know um they fucking what they crowned problem x i was like cool i got a role you know and so we got and not to mention there was a really um there's a twitch after party happening uh that i want to stick my head and say hi to some people before even hitting bad even though i was exhausted so i did that so like we didn't stick around to see it but
Starting point is 00:34:36 was there no interview afterwards at all that's a bummer that's probably that could be because yeah it could be because they were an hour late and they were deciding to rush things i don't know any actual details like maybe they said hey do you want to say something and he was like no i haven't seen what problem x is like if he has a reaction to this at all but i just remember seeing people like the last three evo i guess people are just tweeting about it perhaps yeah that's all i saw like i don't know if people like end the arena at the time or like cognitive of i i will say that it looked like after the the award ceremony they didn't have yeah they definitely didn't have the same sort of like extended moment they did last time and it again
Starting point is 00:35:17 it feels like it's because they were an hour over yeah you know but if you're an hour over you're streaming it's not like it's you're on abc and you're doing like the academy awards and there's actual like repercussions espn sorry okay that espn i forgot about that is you're on tv but like there's the feed for espn just cut off like you can basically go as long as you want the events are okay cause like they can't they were the other controversy is like you're all free now didn't show up until way later than it should have everyone's shouting where is you now yeah we're pissed for a bit no one was free you mentioned that there was a real controversy were they not on espn this year oh yeah they weren't oh oh yeah my mistake i thought there were okay
Starting point is 00:36:03 um i it was weird because like i remember uh we were asking what about espn too because we because we're asking because i was i was talking to some of the people that were doing commentary and we were like going like is it happening and some people said yes and then others said no and these were people in the know so i guess it was unclear i but if it didn't happen to my mistake i thought there was either way though i feel that um yeah it wouldn't take that long to just give them a second you know but maybe he said no there's there's no way to really know problem x one of the players that is the giving interviews all the time about how street fighter five sucks probably not no okay because i do know there are a few players like that and if that was the case
Starting point is 00:36:44 i could understand they would like be like no no don't i think don't want the champ talking shit but you can't but you can't roll he can't actually do that i like that guy that made a way out that likes to get himself over and like screamed stupid bullshit yeah it's not like a fighting game player is going to do that because that oh he has him he has he has in the past he has criticized the game in the past okay so i mean but i don't think that's grounds to that i don't think you'll take the time to shit on the game you just want on the grand finals dude that'd be the shittest it would be what i'm what i'm saying is i don't think they would officially go like this player should not be allowed to get the microphone he's reaching in his despite the fact that he's he's pulling out a
Starting point is 00:37:25 sheet of paper on the back it says fuck sf5 he's got a statement he's got a manifesto yeah first things first you have to do even more things that they can't stop like writes ss5 sucks in the back of your head and then just turn i want him to go i love ss5 but now i want him to go on a fucking tangent about how the game is trash and he would know because he's the best um so that so that too is kind of a point that like um i guess is not um i yeah i i don't know we don't know enough about what rolled out afterwards but everyone was kind of tired and running out of the arena at that point maybe if that had happened at 730 because the the game with the most signups would have been last it would have he would have had his moment right maybe i don't know that's the that's the
Starting point is 00:38:16 weird one to me to be honest and this is my personal like thing it's not even really like dbz controversy but the game with the most signups absolutely should have deserved that that final spot well it depends who paid the cannons more yeah mr wizard more or less came out and went signups has never been an indicator of the of the schedule neither has this game is too new it's and you know what like changing the rules as we go well look but like between that between the bb tag thing between the skull girls thing i keep bringing up i just don't have a lot of faith in like you know that thing being like signups and what people want to play and all that being a direct representation of like what the community wants to see there's a lot of stuff going on that makes
Starting point is 00:38:59 me go like a favorite choosies best buddies the audio knows better than you right like a signup indicator why is there no marvel what is the indicator then is it stream numbers like no because that wasn't the indicator either for marvel because i couldn't fucking get a listen i'll shut up and fit it all day but i can guarantee you i'll i will make a one million dollar bet right now that at the time of the decision to cut marvel it had better stream numbers than blaze blue cross tag battle yeah yeah because it wasn't out and there was a and there was a marvel side tournament and a lot of people were in it like i was with timo the whole weekend like he was you know like that that tournament happened like but um you know how many people roughly i don't know
Starting point is 00:39:48 the number no but but uh yeah no it's really just that it's like that that's a weird thing that um feels like it's not about numbers it's not about any it's not about anything that can be uh i guess quantifiable yeah to the outside the answer is because we want it they are qualitative judgments made by the people who run i think this game is hype i don't like that game i think this game will do well this will do work you know that's it like like outside as a spectator we don't you can't there's nothing to look at and go hey this makes sense and is like no that's not the choice the choice is based on their personal preference there should be more upfront about like bad then no that mr wizard is kind of like more or less implying that with what he's not saying right
Starting point is 00:40:34 mr wizard also comes out and says yeah this shit sucks you know there was those moments of like uh hey ooh what should we do guys it's like being as piece as pc as possible about going i think this is garbage i don't want to hide that marvel hat you know um yeah it's it's like it like it's definitely shaped up to be more of a like we're not gonna say we're playing favorites but yeah we're playing favorites and that's what we're that's how we decided to run our tournament um i guess what capcom a lot of people who run these events like capcom games but you know uh but some of them not all of them evo evo still still uh the fighting game con of the year i'd say because as you you know got to walk through and check it out yeah like outside of people playing their
Starting point is 00:41:22 matches in the pool section there's just fight fest happening where booth to booth whether it's new shirts new sticks new games new characters new dachymakuras of kodi new characters with the mare on one side and the jailbird on the other um it's your pleasure tonight well you got to mix it up sometimes yeah this is don't limit yourself um maybe that'll help me with my boredom uh yeah there's there like the event itself was was jam-packed with all kinds of good shit so i guess um we can we can just break it into like you can tell me we'll let them bring up like stuff you didn't i'll jump in wherever it's relevant and so on um well yeah you mentioned uh the kodi dachymakura and um the artist behind that zonk knuckle is like i just made five of these i don't know i just
Starting point is 00:42:11 love kodi they only made five no i made i made five of these for this day and like that's it i just don't and they were the item of the show sold out and then oh shit i need to bring in more so they got more and uh and when i was like oh i'm gonna buy this they were like oh please come buy my booth i'll like please uh because uh i used to follow zonk knuckle and she used to follow me but then uh i think she said she had a her twitter account taken down so we like forgot to add each other or whatever but uh i bought that that was really cool she's zonk knuckle's really awesome soul caliber five i'm watching max because max is just repping soul caliber five all weekend almost five so yeah sorry six six six six okay um uh and uh i'm watching them play and you had just
Starting point is 00:42:56 shown up at their stream at on the booth and i'm watching them play and i'm like i'm a little hung over i'm not too bad but i'm just like watching play i'm like all right guys i'll see you like i'm just off screen and they're like no come on come here come sit yeah i'm like no no please i don't same thing for me yeah exactly and they're like no no no they can move steve moves a bit i'm like okay fine because sorry what well it's just the part but but right before you well sorry go ahead um and it's funny because it's like we tag team because then the third guy showed up but um so yeah i'm like looking at soul caliber six and i played at a paxies and i took killik and i'm like holy shit i'm just killicking all over and everything feels great and i i still remember
Starting point is 00:43:37 like most of his moveset but i see max and and they've been playing soul caliber six for like hours now i think yet the day before too and uh i'm watching them play for a bit and i'm just like or the buns again like for the the special shit max is like this is your parry thing and that's your super i'm like right okay and then eventually they're like do you want to play i'm like they're like do you want to play i'm like okay fine i take killik i'm like oh i'm gonna be embarrassing but i beat simmons two matches in a row and i was super happy with that but then where i'm we're talking about the game and i'm just like this is just almost mortal combat xy where i'm like your super is right is this this button and there you go and your parry cool
Starting point is 00:44:22 your defense thing is this button and there's all their stuff too but i'm just like this is probably gonna do super well it was never like an execution crazy series like i know but it's just like i don't i was five even no i had some weird stuff five hidey x's five had supers okay but they they they weren't tough to do they weren't tough to do but um i remember four had all that stupid armor break shit and then you can only do the super then and that was so you never ever saw it i i mean i reiterate that five was a good game that had five is a good that had a cast that people didn't like and uh that the shitty kids the shit kids kind of overshadows the the game place like improvements that happened it sucks this little bunch of the new characters are fine to good but
Starting point is 00:45:07 the two primary ones are huge losers compared to yes because i i want well it's more like the four right i want there to be because it's the it's the patrocolo's it's his sister they're the worst it's the it's the monkey kid and then it's the tiki the tiki the tacky replacement yeah tacky replacement didn't bother me not and i super bothered and i and i'll be real i forgot that but that's based on monkey kid existed but that but the tacky replacement is coming from a place of yeah that's a titty ninja but i wanted tacky my titty and i wanted my titty ninja exactly and so that that whole thing um it was not the mortal combat kids it was not you know and so that's yeah it was like it was a stuff well it's because they weren't the game there's they were replacements
Starting point is 00:45:50 but the shit the gameplay stuff they did was fucking rad and i really dug that i really liked exes and we're we're joking that they should announce a new guest character and there's a trailer the name co bandai and it says guest character and then like a portal opens up and just patrocolas just oh it's out yeah like what no i'm from a different time a different split timeline yeah so so uh yeah well so max and and yo video games guys and everybody kenny knows word streaming for gaiko and they had three hours of soul caliber to stream yeah so it was a lot of time to to get going you know so you played yeah yes exactly so this is the first time playing it yes i had touched it before this i was walking by because right next to that booth
Starting point is 00:46:31 was the macadamia setups yeah and i was going to get my game in on that to try it out gonna get your green arrow on and while i walked by i was like oh shit they're like come on over you know so they exactly same thing wave this down onto the couch and i sat there and played with them for a bit and we had a good time um and we're speculating on like the possibility of guest characters and what's going on and whatnot yeah and so on you know we did he came up um the correct answer was always blood-borne hunter um but you know and then like even and then they're like oh but what about like tubito you know and something like what wacky like that uh and then listen willy i don't listen namco doesn't do wacky out of context guest character exactly we have to keep it saying y'all
Starting point is 00:47:12 okay um so then tasty steve came over and like so we started going into that and then we all like kind of collectively realized that hey this game has an armor breaking mechanic between rounds to be also has an armor breaking mechanic that would be a really interesting fit um but yeah man soul caliber six definitely uh feels very much like soul caliber two oh that's oh yeah um the and the uh yeah that's the best thing you could have said i don't know the nightmare is definitely the three and beyond though like max has summed it up for everybody well because secret is also in the game secret is also in the game and yeah nightmare is nightmare is definitely like new nightmare for sure but no the overall vibe and feeling is that that that absolute soul
Starting point is 00:47:59 caliber two feeling and um that new mechanic is yeah it feels like one that's not it's it's very much like abused at low level and then not even high level like mid level play you know mashing will bring will beat it out like the new parry system thing it's like if you just try like like there's so many situations where it's like oh i'm gonna try it now i'm losing and it's like no that's not going to save you you know or i'm gonna try to get a super out now no that's not going to save you like you have to be kind of smart about it in the same way you do in Tekken when they brought supers out right so Tekken supers they don't have invincibility they have super armor if you don't have that life to take it it's not going to work out you're just gonna
Starting point is 00:48:34 tie similar things happening in here with these mechanics as well um so shiny flashy over the top though you know just like spark levels have never been more when people go in for the clash like it's sigils and 3d it's sigils it oh that's good that's pretty good um but yeah i really enjoyed playing that again like that's kind of like when i played it at uh pax east i was playing on an empty setup with no one so i was playing against like the ai and i was like yeah that's fun it's good but like playing against another person was like oh shit so um aside from that just shout outs to frenchie jess uh lee and crooked glasses for hanging out they're really fun you mean trash fire yeah that's that's like saying the switcher though let's get it right let's say
Starting point is 00:49:21 her name is jess bed oh whatever um so woolly also came with us for a little birthday celebration oh you made a bible study bible fucking study yeah what's it out we went crazy horse bible crazy horse what three not crazy horse one and two they're okay yeah but they perfected it at crazy horse three yeah yeah they brought out the hymns you know uh some gospel was sung uh there was there was some like gospel dancing gospel dancing celebrations maybe some topless gospel dancing keep space for the lord what are you talking about so uh it was liana's birthday on wednesday so we just yeah we went to all all went to a strip club which was fun um i was like i should eat before we go there and they're like no there's like you know food there's like chicken wings and
Starting point is 00:50:06 i'm like okay cool and we didn't wind up getting any food but everyone else had seemingly ate before me yes so i'm like i'm just gonna drink the same amount as anyone else's and i'm like oh i didn't eat any food that's not how i do but friendship dances were purchased for everyone except for matt yeah even though your wife was like what the fuck is wrong with you and matt's like no she might see me i just can't i just like i can't get the i can't get the courage for it i'm just like no what if what if she falls over and hits her head on something and while she's dancing on the lap good luck at the fucking avians buddy yeah no well then that's that's an actual con that's a con there's no stripping happening out bank good luck with the porn star friendships yeah um matt you're
Starting point is 00:50:58 a weird guy take it from a really weird guy but um no that was that was really fun so do you remember the the stripper is like really tall black lady and she was just like she was just like really into our group and then she just started doing like the robot and other dances and we're like oh this is the hype wasn't doing like sexy not sexy moves just all Futurama robot came out you know grease the joint that was really fun pop it and lock in lots of other stuff to talk about but i won't i won't go into i played do i six yep do a six is really good like five was good but there's something about this one that like i played uh as as Diego something or someone and we'll get into it later but matt i have to say like i went over it because i mean matt was like dude have you seen the new
Starting point is 00:51:48 character the angle i was like oh shit okay this sounds cool he's like he's just a badass guy he's got a shirt open he's got the fist he's just a brawler everything's that i'm like okay sounds good my type i like that yeah yeah and build it up and i walk over and i check it out and i'm like this is a cool character because it's travis fucking touchdown it's literally just travis touchdown it's the same hair it's the same fucking coat the same color he's got the jeans i'm like oh it's matt's whole fucking aesthetic it didn't really hurt it didn't really hit me i saw people in comments of like he needs water bro his his reveal video that's not gonna help i'm it's my voice is hoarse from like you go watch the videos of maximillian's reactions to find out why my voice is the way it
Starting point is 00:52:33 is that guy seems really into cigar um but yeah like uh yeah i i that didn't hit me about travis no not even at the end of the trailer when it's when they called him the crownless king or whatever the fuck it was at the end of the trailer yeah dude like i'm gonna pull this shit up for you because i'm like matt matt doesn't even know it i love the trailer but matt doesn't even know it when he got baited into like loving the thing that he already liked subconsciously then i'm not saying you're wrong just i didn't this character diego from dead that are alive have glasses the trailer don't worry you'll be able to put those glasses on the trailer pops up and it has like this old fight for new york thing going on and then rig walks up to him and goes
Starting point is 00:53:16 hey bucker what the fuck you want to fight and then diego with his big foe hawk it is he's full red jacket and shit goes yeah let's fight you know i want to fight you and he's totally and he's got the fun t-shirt on and he's got the full aesthetic i'm like oh my god no wonder you know there was fire in your eyes for this character and like you didn't even realize with the chain and all he's full on brown travis man um and at the end of the trailer i'm just gonna cut to it like they straight up just drop a line that's like where is it whatever they call him the crownless king was it was it do that that happens that's a real the uncrowned street hero oh that's it right and and yeah and that that pops up somewhere as well and it was like okay so this is what's
Starting point is 00:54:04 happening here either way you're not wrong yeah he's fucking cool and like everyone in his stage chance his name yeah which i like it does that happen in other fighters i'm not sure smash brothers yeah that's true uncrowned street hero yeah you know i see so i see this fucking thing pop up but i go of course but he is really cool yeah no uh there there's some other games i didn't get a chance to play like smash ultimate was there but i saw that line i was like yeah that's not happening no and yeah the uh uh uh uh uh checked out um the new build of combat core like you you pointed me out we go you got to try that because there's some best friends related shit in that game now yo which is straight up hype shit coming to that game and last week i talked about playing mega
Starting point is 00:54:50 man exit bunch right so last night well a couple hours ago for whatever time frame it was for me i'm on the plane back over here and i'm like oh god i gotta like i can't fall asleep whatever i'm uncomfortable i'll i'll play some more mega man x and i beat x4 during this this time frame and i'm like all right all right i beat that boss all right okay here it comes and the cut scene starts and zero is holy niris and then just i'm like the waitress comes hey sir do you need anything i just went like just kept looking yeah like yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah wait they didn't want something but i was like i had i had that exact moment shut up yes in a completely different way okay yeah i was like i was also playing mega man x4 on a plane but uh yeah i played that like
Starting point is 00:55:48 this is the first time i played it to completion and i'm like yeah wait that's the first time you played x4 to completion yeah wow i never owned a playstation that's your first like i played it before that's your first personal iris yes and what am i fighting for and no one no one ever brings that up but the way he laughs when he's got the pipe in his hand dude yeah and he's beating down he's going yeah that fucking cut scenes are just grunts okay it's bad it's bad but but zero's voice breaking all over itself with funny what was this voice actor like going through puberty at the time and fucking sigma's voice after watching the day of sigma the anime yeah he sounds totally fine yeah and in this or like he sounds great i feel like day of sigma was made like 10 years later
Starting point is 00:56:39 it's way longer than that after due i'd say even okay because but yeah just in terms of we're gonna cast this voice not like the performance itself that was i mean fuck dude that was back in the days of wowie you know like stop him immediately they didn't realize that you could make things good yet but uh you know i enjoyed the game but i'm like and i still prefer like the other x games i still like how zero gets his ability the thing i said this last time i'm like oh it's cool i just can double jump now because i beat a boss which is at least a nice change to the x formula but yeah i there's other stuff so whatever that's good what were you shook by double the reveal doubler the fucking little yellow guy am i is that the my thing x4 the little yellow guy that's
Starting point is 00:57:32 your buddy and then he turns into a boss at the end and you have to fight him is that x4 does it win in zero's campaign because i don't remember that i forget or is it double just it's the little the little fat yellow guy he's your buddy the whole game of the character and then it turns out he's a piece of shit and you gotta fight him no is not only in one person's campaign no he can he death because i only dealt with iris did you play zero yeah you didn't play x oh then he wouldn't because i never played a zero before oh yeah doubles for excellent the last couple of times i ever touched x4 i always took megaman i have good uh oh so you never played as x and x4 no oh why would you well then never
Starting point is 00:58:15 mind because i wanted to try at zero okay i also picked zero the first time i played x4 now i might go back and play it yeah it's it's megaman x4 it's it's a good old game from the playstation one era uh all right well anyway yep so i've i've been defeated oh okay cool um what did you do what i no i wanted to tag with what you said happened to you with the switch because yeah because for me i was on the plane and i just uh i just finished hollow night congrats little golf claps um yeah and so like now that it's done it's what's it's funny because like you walk into the final area like where it's like once there's a thing that happens
Starting point is 00:59:05 at some point where it pretty much goes you're now allowed to be lined towards the end if you want you're like awesome so let's do that and if anything's on it happens across my path on the way then sure but you can pretty much do it so yeah uh and in the process of be lining towards the end but like you kind of walk into that sort of final area and like the last thing it's really smartly done because like one of the last things you unlock um is not like not as a spoiler or anything it's just helpful is like the ability to pause and see what percentage you've completed oh it's just right there so you can now actually make a decision on whether or not you want to turn around and deal with this final challenge later or not which is a really smart way to do it um
Starting point is 00:59:47 that was really well set up um and it's and it's and it's uh it's done in the form of like the knowledge of the world is brought to the character it's very cool so you go in and uh yeah I finished it off and I've pretty much um it was one of those things I walked in had a nice huge cinematic final boss moment crushed it without thinking and then went this was definitely meant to be something you can do even well before now yeah and looking back I definitely was playing into dlc at the same time it was just in the world so that you know I didn't know until the end but then it was going back and reading and going and seeing what was let's go back and check and find out like this was dlc this was dlc so the way it works is it's weird but it's like on the um
Starting point is 01:00:36 on the uh dlc like menu okay there's a dlc menu on the on the main menu you go to it and it shows you a poster for each pack and the pack just has a list of bullet points of things the dlc added but it's not telling you what or where they are how you know what I mean it's just saying these things were added with the dlc pack so basically the dlc it doesn't add it it doesn't feel like it adds um a zone to the game where you walk to this door and that like in some cases I it's definitely like bosses and things like that but there's stuff that is just now updated in the world alongside the dlc packs type of thing so um yeah I guess I I guess I went and did that and from my understanding from what it looks like is there's definitely a true ending to go back to
Starting point is 01:01:24 yeah I heard about that way back said you got to feed four optional bosses which changes the final one so um do you still have access to it like is it the kind of thing yes your game just ends or is it you still have the ability to go out and fill your map yeah I I definitely I definitely have the ability to go back and fill my map out and um I think uh based on where I'm at because I definitely while I did I went and fought a lot of harder optional bosses before taking out this final one so it's possible you only have one that you missed right the problem is of course is that in playing it well you know what now that it's done I guess I don't mind looking things up a little bit to find out what I missed but um the the process of like just sort of finding it in
Starting point is 01:02:13 ways and whatnot I scraped up against the walls in certain areas a lot of times because I really like there's a place where like I didn't find a little switch that was kind of in a corner somewhere that unlocks a gate that leads to a whole new zone and stuff like that um so yeah I'd have to like looking at the map I don't see a lot of places left towards like there's a little hole for a place you haven't been or something like most of it feels like I've like cleared a lot of these rooms out but um to find tooth comit I think uh I'd rather probably just go look up and see kind of yeah so I'll probably do that afterwards but I because I want to continue on with Octopath I'm going to put that down for now and then you know come back and see what's up unless it's like
Starting point is 01:02:55 like unless it's one of those like no you really like it's not like a true ending it's like the actual ending or something in which case it's like well then I'm not done but we will see you I have to kind of find out a bit more but it was a really nice um experience I've had because I don't think there's been any game recently at all based on the time we live in that I've played without there being any outside things coming in right not just because of the like internet existing while we play these games but also because of us in particular having lots of people talking to us about these things while we play them I can't remember the last thing I've really completely played in a vacuum a way out I guess yeah would have to have been it but I mean we
Starting point is 01:03:31 but we already created that situation we created that situation and we knew what it was going to be going in based on the words coming in about it whereas Hollow Knight was like very very much just no it's good play it that's it so it's a satisfying thing to like you know scrape your way through it and um I'm happy that the tiredness I was feeling was based on playing extra content that came in and not like the intended critical path because that means that the intended critical path is totally fine and that the extras are I guess they were meant for you to do after the game had been on the shelf for a couple months but there's no way to really know per se now it's just a bigger game now it's just a bigger game wait did you download them or like they were just
Starting point is 01:04:17 there when I bought the game it was there depending on what version you're gonna buy I assume it just comes with it yeah well they all they're all called free DLC pack yeah right so um anyway so yeah that's what happened with that and as I was getting that final cut scene yeah I was gonna ask so what's the so are you kill the boss and then like animation starts playing and I'm watching it and it's like would you like any drinks and it's like same literally same thing you know I was just like I water you know like just like not now like I'm not to be rude but fuck like mom I can't pause it it's a cut scene and and it's one of the few in the 30 fucking seven hours did both of you forget that you can just hit the power button on your switch yes instantly pause it no I didn't but I
Starting point is 01:05:00 didn't know if that would based on the way compliance works sometimes cause it to auto skip or cause it to actually pause or cause not every game let's you pressing start doesn't always pause a cut scene how many games does it skip it yeah but that's not pause let's sleep yeah but it might not suspend it there's been games where also remember we were both excited at the time literally game literally there's games where mid fmv it will skip the fmv and then you come back to the suspended state of the game paused right because it pauses the gameplay the fmv is like more or less a layer playing above that so I don't know and I'm not going to take the chance it's been 38 hours in the making and you never did pre-start on a switch
Starting point is 01:05:41 so you're not exactly sure about how why take the guess you know just shout water at some waitress instead um yeah that happened and then I guess outside of that then yes evo so there was the bible study there was max's panel which was fun like sitting in on and um sorry sorry who you mean Guinness book world record holder max a million that's true that's true he is now in the Guinness book for the youtube channel dedicated dedicated to fighting games with the most subscribers yes and um the yeah and then a proposal happened right right in the middle of that so that was nuts um that was an eventful panel that was that was some fun stuff there was the um the actual tournament which uh the curse continues in which I but it's not even a curse at this point I'm
Starting point is 01:06:42 going to say because it is a curse when I try but when I don't try and I net the same results I'm impressed that I got the same results I don't know man curse implies some kind of external external malevolent force yeah like umbrella it's the feeling that it's the feeling that I will always get to the end of my pool but not make it out and even when they go all right we're moving it so that three people get out I will get forth you know but I'm not and it seems oh this was known as the micros curse but it's also one of kind of like getting out of pools like requires you to just be that cut you know um you're holding on to the handrail that leads you out of the pool but then like three other people jump on you and like spring out of the pool I feel like yeah so I
Starting point is 01:07:24 guess I'm like I'm you know decent enough to like not lose to like swim for a while randomness but at the same time there's never but like to beat like really strong players like f word who sent me to losers in in Street Fighter it's like well fuck you've got to be more than solid change you play in Street Fighter uh Nikali okay out of the way old man the like I definitely want to spend the time and get blank up there but right now the hours clocked into Nikali make it a more valuable pet but aren't those hours clocked into Nikali in a considerably older version of the game not that different from Nikali hasn't changed that much okay the biggest change to him was the the change from being a charge character to uh what was the being a motion character to a charge
Starting point is 01:08:11 character right they made that pre-release right yes this is like what you said for the dreaded encounter it's like pick your game you're like I play Street Fighter 5 now but the amount of clocked hours in Street Fighter 4 make it the safer bet yes I could do better in that it's just it's just math you're certain things like hey like Matt if you had to be challenged to some sort of acting singing or drawing competition yeah which would you choose Sailor Moon you know um so yeah that that's that's I gotta look at tournament footage that's Sailor Moon fucking anime Evo side turning Sailor Moon is fucking back and legit and deserves all the praise and love it's getting that's all I'm gonna say about that um the so yeah there was that there's a very nice dinner
Starting point is 01:09:00 we had with uh with Kira Buckland that was fun time um meeting spoilers and hanging out um and then as so what what I did after getting up from the the soul caliber stream and then you stepped in and then eventually one Xavier Wood stepped in as I was like all right I should I should get going on take up too much of your time he just he's like just bouncing around the setup and he's like oh and I'm like I'm literally leaving yeah he's like oh and yeah he seemed to enjoy the game because he's yeah because he's definitely like he shows up he does his his win jammers and like he's in for a limited time period one night only yeah he's a busy guy very so uh when I went over to check him check him out because I heard him popping off in win
Starting point is 01:09:46 jammers because he got top 32 and then eventually I don't know what pace he finished at but he was it was pretty sick getting that far because he's like I'm like dude like I'm like if I don't hear you popping off I'll assume you've lost you know and he's like he's like this is the one thing that this is the one thing I'm good at that's real this is the one thing that's real I'm gonna assume you didn't do well if I hear popping down um and uh yeah and and uh got some other uh cool stuff shoutouts to the the awesome people over at the arxist booth because I wanted to go get an arxist hat and there was none left why was there a western theme why was there cowboys everywhere well because I guess it's I mean they all but they always wear the like the Japanese traditional
Starting point is 01:10:31 like um they do but they're on like a saloon yeah so I guess I guess they wanted the mixture of both I don't know Johnny who knows yeah but but the yeah yeah but like either way I was like I want to get one of the marxists hats and like they're all gone and they like the producer guy was just like yeah you can have mine and I was like ah that's crazy you were right about uh kill a kill where it looks like it's mode seven so got back in line played my hero academia um my hero academia is uh very much plays and feels like a Naruto like a Naruto game uh then played kill a kill also plays and feels like a Naruto game so both of these games arena fighters there's a thing to it right you're gonna have is Naruto yeah you're gonna have your two attack buttons you're gonna
Starting point is 01:11:15 have a jump button you're gonna have probably a dash of some kind uh like a lock-on dash then let's say a block and a dodge and a super button and something like that so really similar games in comparison to each other but uh they kind of offer different things so uh in in uh my hero's case I guess I'll start there and say that like yeah my hero academia I mean it was it was fun I didn't but I there was no explanation of the controls beforehand and stuff so I kind of just had to wing it um I didn't get to fully get grasped the the the system of like what counters what and so on but I know that there's like ways to do unblockables which you can I guess break somehow or throw but one thing that that was fun to that happened casually not knowing how to play
Starting point is 01:11:58 was like the way you would do combos that would smash someone into a wall and then the fight would transition onto the wall sideways and now you're fighting sideways in the stage just like Naruto um that doesn't happen in in Ultimate Ninja Storm no but it happens in Naruto because oh that check yeah okay well okay well let me clarify and say when I say like Naruto I literally mean like Ultimate Ninja Storm now man I'm talking about Naruto no no no no um this has to be like this thing because these games are all doing the same genre of arena fighter that that covers that ground and so this this offers that unique thing of like fighting sideways and then upside down or whatever the fuck is going on right um sure Naruto doesn't have that feature Ultimate
Starting point is 01:12:38 Ninja Storm if it does then it's not in the it's not in the ones I played which is two so maybe it comes up to like five maybe it comes in the later games but uh if it has I haven't gotten there yet so I'm talking based on the Ultimate Ninja Storm two that I played so um what happens then uh is you have your team of two assists as well which is again also very much like Ultimate Ninja Storm and oh it's it's in all of them okay well then the story mode for Ultimate Ninja Storm two that I fought so far that you can go watch on Woolly versus there's no fight sideways on anything that happened yet so maybe you just don't like fighting sideways on the building maybe I haven't seen it yet I don't know it has maybe when it says hey fight on this building on the side you're like no no
Starting point is 01:13:18 ground that's good that's good I like this this it hasn't occurred yet I'm sorry I like it's comfortable here I hope I hope to see that soon but it has not yet occurred you can watch the LP anyway excuse me just one second yeah so that happens and uh you have the two v two you have the the two assists and whatnot I picked um all might and then like you know as you and the kids and then the second one I went in for stain and yeah man like they look they look it looks good the cell shitting looks tight things look fun the game is notably slower than like some of those arena fighters it there's a lot more floatiness to it I don't know if you kind of watched I watched them footage by an employee yeah there's the feeling of like when you when you're zooming up to someone
Starting point is 01:14:02 it feels like a really slow float dash up to them as opposed to like a bam you know it kind of looked like it um but it it felt but it still felt all right you're just but you just definitely know that like um this is the kind of it's a simplistic sort of game you know there's not going to be a ton of depth to it and uh it looks like that character select screen is huge which is good that's because this is the type of game that like fucking needs that full roster in it right away because the game is not coming out just as my hero just started like we're like in three seasons in now so it would be so disappointing if it stopped at no move and all might Naruto Gamecube games have that problem where like they got so far ahead in the anime and like you're getting like 12 characters
Starting point is 01:14:51 and you're like Jesus Christ so it was on a delay when it was back coming when it was coming when there was coming out as Gekito Ninja Taisen it was on a delay right when they translated that to clash of ninja and like that was like I want to say a year later or so I think it had loads of characters we were so further ahead but we were playing a game where like the final boss was what like Orochimaru yeah you know what I mean like it pretty much was like okay so we had just gotten past like the Zabuza fight it's like wrestling games man and got introduced to this villain and then they were about to go do their Chunin exams and that's the end of you know what I mean yeah the first game and that had like the most basic roster like why did you even bother you
Starting point is 01:15:33 should have waited to like get some guys in there like Rock Lee was the big outsider pick you know it was it was kind of crazy um and then uh like later was like up Chunin exams and then later's you know the rest CLC wasn't a thing yet so it's like at least for my hero like you can just add lots of guys so yeah so just going to that's let that's select screen and seeing stain right away and Todoroki right away and then um uh what's what you call it the the you know the freaky girl with the with the like crazy like sms like vibe no you wouldn't know sorry um you need to give me more do you mean the villain girl the villain girl oh the fucking blood bitch what's her name and then the schoolgirl and then the guy with the fucking zombie face oh uh it's
Starting point is 01:16:21 Zavi yeah so they're right there too and you're like that's her name so they're right there too and you're like nice right to that's past the end of the third season way way way out there yeah so that so the game's coming out with lots of um lots of lots of spaces for of the full class you by the way if you are you up to date in uh uh academia probably like two okay because like the fighting game that happens after this one there is a massive cast explosion and i don't like to the point where i can see it being tough for the game well yeah if you add like villains no i mean there are like a hundred students added in like one episode oh well um what i would crazy i feel like looking at that cast like that select screen i'm pretty confident we're
Starting point is 01:17:06 going to be looking at like um we're probably going to be looking at the full class right i i'd be surprised if the full class didn't get what about minnetta that is he part of the class yeah then why would he's also the huge fucking loser yeah but his sticky style thing would make sense for a video game yeah any characters that like stopping you from moving throwing balls at you and shit like they'd figure it out okay well anyway um i imagine the full class is going to be there if that can ask for 20 characters to get removed from smash i can ask for minnetta to get kicked out the real i feel like the question is going to be who are the 25 thank you the question the real question is me are we going to get like one or two class b characters and then how many
Starting point is 01:17:55 villains you know if they were gonna do like beyond that with class b they would actually go for the other schools that were just introduced oh well then i don't but maybe but like that's so much later yeah but well not not as much later as you would think if people like staying are there no what i mean is for like i mean alongside the development of this video game yeah right so um yeah hopefully you know we'll see what's up but the the it would be it would make sense to fill in the gaps of the stuff the people they've met up until now like i feel like you know there you have your fucking class b's you've got your your villain kids and then you've got your um the teacher crew cat people and whatever you know what i mean like there's a bunch of weirdos
Starting point is 01:18:38 bunch of weirdos that get thrown in there there's a whole bunch of randos that you can go pick from now on so this guy's great ah so that's there kill the kill is also like narrative ultimate what but it has something weird going on where it's deliberately doing uh like yeah like the the way the trailer's looked and when you see it in person it's especially weird there's moments where it looks like sprites instead of 3d because as the camera's smoothly rotating around the stage the sprites are going like angle angle angle angle angle if that makes sense they're not smoothly rotating around so you described it as like it looks like mode seven some mode seven moments happen right imagine if you had a mode seventh row 3d rotation but then the sprite has to
Starting point is 01:19:25 occasionally update to look like it's at a 45 degree now 90 now another 45 now another four you know what i mean that's cool man so it has that effect to it and like it works in some cases and it looks like the anime is what they're kind of going for but a lot of the times it kind of just ends up feeling odd i don't know it's definitely a stylistic choice but it feels like there's missing frames of animation not just because the anime looked like that because the anime did have like every time they henchened up it fucking got smooth and crazy like let's not pretend the whole thing was like um keyframes but the action here definitely looks like it's keyframe to keyframe and a lot of weird moments and i don't know man um personally it is really
Starting point is 01:20:06 early maybe they're just not done putting in the extra little that was my that was my thought when i saw the trailer when i but when i played it looking at it it looks a lot more deliberate okay um the clash argument system is a fun little thing of course it's it really is just rock paper scissors but it's like taunt provoke and um just dead are those actually different options well it's what when you hit the clash you can either taunt provoke or like um um i think it's like insult or something i think you take an insult yeah it's like give me your back no it's it's like i like stand your your fucking you know like your ground like a state your your whatever it's forgot what the third one is yeah but you so you have this this trifecta of like you know
Starting point is 01:20:53 ways to trash talk and like depending on whether you win or not you get a buff out of it and stuff and the whole the whole sequence is done in the same way where one person's upside down and yelling back like no you don't know about your you don't know shit like it's everything we talked about and then so that was pretty fun um but yeah i i feel like that the chosen aesthetic for this game is probably gonna make people feel kind of weird about it because it looks almost like like yeah the effect is is a stylistic thing that looks weirdly cheap sometimes you know it's probably because it is cheap i mean that does sum up kill a kill i guess i guess um taking a look here yeah we should definitely take a quick word from our sponsors before continuing
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Starting point is 01:24:13 thought it was gonna go yeah you deserve what yeah death no no you deserve nothing good in this life um it is really one of those it's a quality of life when you didn't know you need it is the kind that stays forever you know um i mean i can't imagine like this like you see like you're like the level of like just checking your phone for anyway whatever the point is is mechanical keyboards make you throw out your old garbage not mechanical keyboard violently very quick oh the podcast is also sponsored by rocket league hey friends listen up esports most exciting game rocket league sports action that hit combines driving and soccer for all the physics based gameplay you can handle i can handle a lot of physics case but gameplay i've seen you handle quite a few you'd think
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Starting point is 01:26:34 and just check and i go and every single setup does not have terry on the screen and i see a guy standing there that i assume worked at the booth or like was new is terry in this he's like i don't know i don't think so i'm like oh okay i mean i played this at paxie so i'm good for now i'll i'll buy it when it comes out so i walked away and then i was like it sucks that terry's not playable in the build that's at evo right woolly and woolly's like you mean the build that i played as terry you fool i'm like what do you mean explain to you you unforgivable fool so that he was when she was you sit down and terry's right there and she's the fatal cutie hat i didn't even see a select screen everyone was in mid-match yeah um so i don't know if you uh if you followed the mechanics of how
Starting point is 01:27:22 that game works but it's got playstation all-stars mechanics oh you don't kill anybody until you land a super on them um fortunately super meter is generous and i'm sure fast and the and the super meter is like one the super input is like pressing a button yeah so this game is casual as fuck it is pure wax shenanigans your special moves are one button yeah and you can just spam them but they have a gauge yeah it's a run out it's it's it's actually yeah it's a it's a shift to like a smash layout of like normals on one button specials on another until it's modified you know um and then you do a little auto combo and then you can tack a super on at the end if you want and you've got like a dodge and a roll you got a block button and then you can use it you can
Starting point is 01:28:10 then you can roll with it and stuff and um very different testing case yeah very very much so it in the end though like um like i will say that the the those costumes are just like it's not just terry like across the board holy shit like leaning into the cheesecake as hard as you can what do you mean what do you mean a lot of them i feel look shitty and tacky a lot of them are shitty and tacky and uh they're shitty and tacky and the characters themselves know it so they're all shy and annoyed at what they're wearing because they're in uh kukri's dream or whatever it is right whatever like everything that could contextualize they're in they're in a they're in a fake dream world so they're being made to where these fan servicey things and they hate it so everyone's
Starting point is 01:28:58 face is like oh that's that's my favorite thing when they wear the fan service but they hate it but they hate it so everyone's blushing going what is this bullshit this is a my doesn't like being dressed as a cow however cowbell around her neck however i wouldn't either leona's third costume is basically her as heidern and it's awesome because she's got the heidern jacket on her shoulders and she's got and she's got the eye patch and the fucking hat and she just looks like serious business and um what's that doing in there i don't know but it's like the leona i would like to see happen if you could fast forward you know i think all the girls should have a costume like that that's like a reference to whatever character is related to them it would be nice
Starting point is 01:29:41 yeah because yeah a lot of them are gaudy yeah like mayan and andy outfit like you know it would be fun it's like they carry the geese outfits they looked they looked at that character that looks like fucking dog shit from 14 the the idol one the one's based off the one that's in this game yeah yeah and they said what if we made a whole game based on that god awful aesthetic um everyone's hit sparks are food as we mentioned oh fuck yourself girls like food everyone likes food girls like strawberries a lot of those pop a whole lot of that um did you play it on switch or what was it on is it is there a not switch version there's a ps4 version oh i yeah i played it on switch yeah okay how did it run um i love how it was fine i just wanted to point out
Starting point is 01:30:30 i'll taxis build really like dog shit okay because it's a creepy anime game the idea that it would be on anything other than the new creepy anime portable of choice it was like oh i thought it was switch exclusive i didn't realize it wasn't um yeah i wanted to i wanted to add an asterisk and say that um that that awesome lana costume would have been more awesome if she had some pants on but regardless um the uh yeah it it seems fine um it ran like sub 30 when i played a that packs what there is something i played that had a crazy long loading screen i don't remember what it was at this point um oh actually might that might have been over at the indy booth never mind um that was so there's some other stuff over there too uh i will say yeah on the
Starting point is 01:31:20 other side of things yeah combat core of course was in there straight up with the like there's some good there's some fun stuff coming to combat core man oh like yeah that's it's coming out to switch to fairly yes it is before the end of the year switchport is in the works for that with new characters as well pay played punch planet new character try the new character new character in punch planet big grappler man grappler ghost rider um was really pretty uh like he reminded me of like that but also like a toxic crusader a little bit yeah you know a big green alien guy got that vibe um point 2.0 and uh mighty fight federation which was actually like the other power stone esk arena fighter that uh it was being worked on by the same uh gentleman who did the music in in
Starting point is 01:32:10 way of the pacifist i'm finding out that like a lot of that toronto game dev community is just very small world you know so like some people that were involved with that are involved with this and people that are working on stuff this or over there and so because because my way of the pacifist popped up out of um ontario and uh this is being worked on as well between in the to considering the to is like a fucking country now yeah and uh there's a game that had some some it had some fun has a lot of mechanics ideas in it yeah and things like that um definitely way early out and has a lot to go but uh i got a little walkthrough of how things work and i want to see it in a finished state and then see how things shape up for that they have a character that's just straight up the
Starting point is 01:32:52 party god from um adventure time it's the wolf it's just this wolf with a backwards hat and he's good i like that's that's that's the only character i spent time playing like yeah there's i think there's two there's three yeah three all right um this is named the guardie pod i mean no it's like it's like it's like wolf ralph no it's like wolf's bane or something like that or or yeah it's like a name like that but um and he's a grappler and uh he can fucking combo into power bombs that pop you back up to more shit so you know some interesting stuff going on um there was a game called bounty battle which was basically just indie indie steam stark so 2d dark souls start smash brothers fighter because bounty battle shut up like is like you go through the top row and
Starting point is 01:33:39 you're like oh here's a bunch of these like sword fight people yay um the character select screen for this game then you then you just scroll down a row and you're like oh look it's god let me fucking try to find the roster for this because it's it's it's crazy how many characters are in this thing um so i'm gonna try and pull this up here bounty battle has you're like hey it's the night from darkest dungeon it's dead cells oh this yeah it's uh it's flint hook it's alboy it's guacamole it's uh huan from guacamole how are they getting all these it's death scambit it will i mean obviously they're going for the that's that's the what do you mean how they're asking okay um it's uh um a ter it's johton it's uh uh enter the gungeon um no no wait not gungeon not gungeon what's the
Starting point is 01:34:37 other one that's like gungeon um the fish nuclear throne nuclear throne thank you uh like so many uh which is weird because another indie fighting game which is the pogo one where everyone's on pogo yeah but that you but that I shoveled and yeah you gotta you kept going like is it that pogo game like no it's not the pogo game man i never heard of this before because this is an actual like it's an actual smash like that's weird and um yeah like just the the the the the roster just kept growing and i was like holy crap yeah awesome knots is in there let me see if i can get the full list because it was non stop they have the dungeon from darkest dungeon in there that's like that's that's a stage totally no i mean i'm at the character um oh there's that's from yeah battle chasers
Starting point is 01:35:26 battle chasers is in there as well like all like really it it kept going um and and like uh including stuff that i'm forgetting because of how many it was it was it was a really really like okay cool you got a huge cast here art style is really fun as well it's like a nice like um there's a cool like lit like lit sprites you know like everyone kind of fits in because it kind of looks like guacamole like the like the art style just generally fits every character it does it does and um yeah it was all right i again i didn't really there was no one there at the booth to really like walk walk us through it and kind of get the full breakdown of how things worked but um i walked away being like yeah bounty battle i'm gonna take a picture of that that looks like it'll be some good
Starting point is 01:36:10 shenanigans so um that happened uh fuck anyway yes sorry i just feel like i've been droning on and i don't want to um fucking do that you all right i'm great okay well we're all on low sleep yeah like i like i said before you guys have good reasons i have no reasons i went to bed and laid there staring at the ceiling for like four hours yeah sorry no it's just i just i made a i'm on no sleep it's like i just i made a lot of notes of all the things that happened this weekend and was like okay let me get through these and i was like no i'm not okay i really like i'm just i'm just i'm talking and i'm talking and i'm talking so i fall asleep because you're boring i tell you if you're boring i would it's a i know i just feel i feel like i'm like i'm falling asleep
Starting point is 01:37:03 because i'm gonna be talking in a minute and i'm gonna be falling asleep during that so don't you worry all right well then hey look yeah negan negan's here everyone negan's in fucking tech no that's news that's new so i wasn't watching the tech and grand finals but what i was doing was uh playing monster hunter on the pc thanks capcom uh which is great by the way 60 fps really changes that game a lot of weapons feel better and uh i'm i'm hanging out with discord with some pals right and i just start to hear just like angry screaming just no what and they go what like you're not watching this i'm like no i was gonna check out dbz and they're like so they send me the no spoiler link and they're like dude it's so bad it's the worst ever it's the worst it's
Starting point is 01:37:54 ever been and i'm like getting excited like oh yeah i love dumb shit i love it dumb shit's my favorite and then it's negan from the walking dead and they go what not oh that's so stupid and bad so um fortunately because uh we were all sitting together those uh matt and me and and timo and max and kenny and then all those guys were all in the same area so you can definitely go check out max's reaction video or kenny's reaction video to see what i thought about that as it popped up but which is why like it's so like afterwards i was talking like with max about it a little more and it's one of those like this is such a wild holy pick right now guess what you know what else is a wild holy shit pick fucking noctis and gone the
Starting point is 01:38:49 dinosaur you know what's different about those things yes i do well what is different about those things the difference is that one those are well no gone wasn't a video game but i think the thing with the walking dead thing right like it's because there's two there's definitely the overwhelming amount of people going what the fuck is tech in doing and then there's some people coming in going like i don't see the problem it's fine what's the what's the big deal in school right and it's like yes it's a guy with a bat from a thing and yes it sure he's a charismatic character on that show for sure yeah i haven't gotten that far i dropped it i know i know his um his comic counterpart yeah and then i after this i i checked out a bunch of clips and the actor is super carrying the
Starting point is 01:39:32 suspense that he's in yeah like he's the actor's really good and i mean it's definitely one of those things are when his moments happen it's like a red wedding type thing where it's like even if you're not watching the show you're pretty much hearing about it anyway so you know that much is understood for sure um but the thing that's weird about negan is that um it's the first pick after like akuma shows up and it's like there's a story the story legacy between streetfighter and and and tekin as as these guest characters get added more and more story was at the start like tons of story with akuma and then they got less and less and less as the characters became further and further away from yeah fighting games and akuma's wrapped into the plot yeah akuma's
Starting point is 01:40:15 important and and it's so it feels like a guest that has had a place at the table set for him and which means that all guests have been there all along and geese you know you're like representing the world you're coming from but he acknowledges the michima's and he's like oh he actually machima you're nothing can also but with geese howard when he sees akuma he's like but like but it's also like it's like while akuma and michima and fucking hey hatchy we're staring at each other if the camera panned over a little bit geese would have been the other one there or bison no you know what i mean like so so um and then negan negan and then noctis negan and then noctis shows up and you're like okay whoa it's all up in the air now right
Starting point is 01:40:55 final fantasy and portals anything is possible that's that pic just goes straight up like all right we got we got to smash brothers characters coming out but when noctis you go well anything can happen but you're still in the realm of video games or characters that fight yeah you can fight for sure and and kohl from cross-tech and was always the weirdest one to me yeah but but kohl was still a video game right so you reach into the real world you grab negan and i go why and where and how is this at all related and and the answer is it's not right but what it taps into and when i thought about it a little bit more was that it feels less like a guest character pic and more like a cross promotion pic it is a cross motion pic and that's where you start to feel a little less
Starting point is 01:41:39 ah let me let me you know you feel like you're just yeah you're promoting the thing like fanno shows up in fortnite it's not because oh my god the the the backstory between fortnite and fanno and marvel has been building for so long let me answer that question the difference between gone the difference between uh akuma and noctis and all that shit is that they were all in things that were popular when those crossovers happened follow fantasy 15 is popular fatal fury is popular street fighter is popular walking dead has been terrible since episode three and is bombing in its own ratings well and they're doing all sorts of weird publicity shit to try and get the ratings back up including this i don't watch walking dead but like still millions and millions of people
Starting point is 01:42:30 watch it but yeah it's ratings have been it tanks in a path because it's bad yeah and it's been bad for years i stuck around till the end of season two before i tapped yeah me too guess what that was a great time to tap out wasn't it and they are they are promoting heavy i've seen that mobile game getting advertised like crazy on on everything and then there's like that other walking dead game coming out over kills walking dead or sure yeah yeah no the the difference is is that this is a this is an admittedly cool character but he is in a thing that sucks so there's there's two points when i was talking to max about this he's like why wasn't this fucking announced that comic con so first of all i said that to max and then you and then you and then he went oh fuck because
Starting point is 01:43:16 literally that's the weirdest part about this and that thing and that was completely agree and that was going my my crowd probably would have been much more resourceful yeah my final bullet point on the story is literally just after all is said and done the weirdest thing about it even all this being is that the way the way it hit everybody of the wave of confusion that hit everyone was not the pop they were looking for no because it's not for that audience and they were and last year they got really high on the reveal of geese because that was high as fire it's about as high as i could get because that first for an evil crowd that's exactly what people there want to see this pop when that happened i forget where it was but it wasn't the geese right but it was like
Starting point is 01:43:58 what so like it was good what it was positive it was like huh what that's crazy so not only would this does this make no sense at the evil crowd it's like comic con had tech in there it was it was not long ago and probably walking dead shit it was there like that's the crowd and the room that blows up for this this announcement what i don't get for cross promotion sometimes i'm like this actually benefits like very few people because what is your thought process who watches walking dead your mom your dad your older sister people that don't know any better so when they oh i gotta start playing tech in maybe it doesn't result in anything but i can't see final fantasy people being like i'll i'll give that a go and tech and i love knock this and yeah you look because those
Starting point is 01:44:49 people play video games because exactly it's completely outside the realm i had said if you needed to do if you needed to do a weird walking dead thing do you know would have actually gone a confused but still positive reception is of clemen time was announced to be in tech but the move list would have been some weird shit because it's like the man with bat is at least has bat multiple characters that would have been better picks but amc wouldn't have been happy with them yeah daryl with his arrows daryl would have been obvious but fuck that mishon has katanas yeah that's a fighting game character yeah but that's also but watch leading shut up watch watch master rave and get a mishon out watch it you're right it's possible but you know who would have
Starting point is 01:45:37 been a great character from the walking dead who's in video games kenny kenny and tecum that would have i would have with both shit fuck man and it's punished so so instead of little pig little pig you'd hear my family my family i can't believe you hear hot you abandoned your family the boat hmm no no people would have gone crazy fucking intro to a match as he drives in on the boat just gets off and he shaded the same way yeah unlike everybody else yeah because fucking walking dead the final season is coming out for for games that would have been a thousand times better there's a lot of ways this could have been better um i you were telling me that they hyped it up really hard leading up to the reveal they sure did um and and uh uh god what was i gonna say too um so go ahead
Starting point is 01:46:38 go ahead so the so all joking aside it's a weird pick but that's not why people are mad the reason why people are mad is because curio was the number one voted oh yeah right that's all regions and sega said oh yeah totally we'd love for curio to be in tecum okay and and if not curio then majima and majima has a whole fucking history of fighting with the fucking baseball bat yep yep yep like it's already there so the the yak is a thing right has to be put down where it's like it's such a perfect fit and everyone knows it and that's why they all want it and we and i think it's amazing it would be fucking he looks so right like the screenshot happened and everyone went oh yeah on that edit right yeah someone wrote it on twitter and it's super true
Starting point is 01:47:36 what if harada just doesn't give a shit about yak is that's probably the only reason what if he's just not a fan it has to be namco just not wanting to advertise you know what there's nothing else to say to that i if he's like nah i don't care that's the end of the discussion no there is something to say to that is that you're making the game for me not for you he's not it's not why he's making it no he you he is making the game for me not for himself he is though no then he should not get paid but he is and it's working and been thrown in a pit you're saying you're i understand where you're going with that as a consumer philosophically but that's not what's actually happening what's actually happening is he's making the game for him and he's making money on it years ago so no
Starting point is 01:48:20 people complain about lucky cloy because this is not a character i want to see in tecant yes he goes fuck you that's i'm gonna like i'm not i'm gonna double up on lucky cloy and ruin leach how long forever by associating him with her yeah if you're make if he was making the game for you pat he wouldn't tell you not to ask him for shit and wear it proudly on his shirt yeah i didn't ask he wouldn't tell you to shut up and eat the delicious pizza but if he was making it for you he's not but he's doing it anyway you know i could i could totally be like yeah as if kajima was like yeah walking dead guys in my shit or the actors or whatever because he loves tv american tv and movies and whatever yeah never saw spying about brada has no prior association with any of
Starting point is 01:49:10 this stuff i don't know if he's tweeted and talked about walking dead before but like to my knowledge he's not super active on twitter yeah but like you guys said i think this is purely like that's cross promotion it's free money for namco and and and that's the thing you don't want guest characters or not you don't like it's less exciting what a guest character is just there to promote later in yes and then not when it's like and star killer and not when you want it you want guest characters that fit the thing that feel good that makes sense and you can cross promote but here's the thing right you know you know what's the best version of this is so so far of this generation it was the witcher because you're cross promoting but the game's already out but also the fit works and people
Starting point is 01:49:53 really like that character and so no one's looking at this going like oh man what it's like no like yeah it all adds up except for yeah except for star killer being soul calibers like soul calibers done it pretty well i mean some of the anime manga characters were like what why don't don't forget the shez ever has a result uh woolly i have a perfect example for you one that is more important today than any other day you want to talk about cross promotion that makes people happy final fantasy and monster hunter are doing their cross the final fantasy end of it came out today behemoth came out last week have you seen the gameplay stuff they do in each other's bullshit no behemoth has a cast bar and an aggro table and casts mmo style mechanics that wipe you all
Starting point is 01:50:39 the way across the map if you don't if you don't do the mechanics okay and when you go on to the monster hunter reddit and see people bitching about randoms and how they can't just do mechanics and you're supposed to do this and they can't hold aggro and it looks identical to the fucking thread on the ff 14 and guess what the fucking uh rathalos fight came out for 14 today there's a phase in which you can't heal you have to use mega potions and the boss has no aoe indicators because you have to watch out for the tail swipe and it has no aggro table and everyone is happy so if you ran from mmo's because you wanted monster hunter there are some mad people too bad there are some there are some coming for you you know you know people figured out one of the
Starting point is 01:51:27 one of the goofy little things in yeah the fight is you get a jump emote from the event if you jump when the ecliptic meteor drops and the huge ground explosion if you're off screen in the air it doesn't hit you because in final fantasy when your dragoons off screen they don't exist so you have to use an emote to avoid an attack you can there's you can also hide behind a but they gave you an emote for that purpose a character straight up tells you this will help you in the upcoming wow right that's a cross promotion that's nuts yeah down to the mechanical level ins and outs details nuts and bolts there's a tail carve in the fucking final fantasy fight today you focus you focus on the fucking tail you break the tail off it screws up the
Starting point is 01:52:06 boss's hitbox it makes the fight easier yeah like hey look everyone happy you know why because people from that audience play this other thing and people from this other thing sometimes play this other thing and those two groups they can mingle and mix and maybe people will pick one up or the other as a result i cannot possibly see tech and players go oh man there's a walking dead when i saw the bat on the shoulders my first thought was oh it's more new japan but now an actual character yeah i heard i saw people say like oh it's frank west my thought yeah i mean yeah that's another thought but i definitely was like oh like a wrestler showing up is like what i what i kind of expected yeah either way though um i mean there's a the rest of that news is that there is a um a
Starting point is 01:52:48 season two happening good when herata at comic con straight up said there's not well someone's okay what it's okay let's let's put it on the table but we have ono we have herata we've got ed boon we've got everybody else the emperors who make fighting games yeah video game developers talking about sequels or upcoming plans they fucking lie but fighting game developers they lie lie like crazy to your face to like all the time max literally to his face herata like no there is no season two and he's like all right there it is from the man yeah and then el and then just later lol they have a product too that thrives on lives uh so before because we before we get into the stop line before we get into the fighting game cold war because that's what evo is becoming slowly on announcements
Starting point is 01:53:40 a little bit um the megaton battles is there anything about your week that's not related to what's upcoming uh monster rpc versions really good uh i beat a bunch of past and enter the gunjan those boss fights are amazing when you beat the gunjan and you get all the conditions you go to a specific characters past and you have to kill their past yeah and they're all scenes from different games or movies okay um like the marines is doom and so on and so and the the convicts is hotline me and hotline miami and i didn't quite beat it yet but the craziest one is the robots past is you go back in time to kill the last human which is just a ripped linda hamilton right you mentioned that last time yeah it's the craziest thing that's what they mean by the game most of
Starting point is 01:54:25 those that games awesome and i started by the way did you know the attack on titan season three is out yes happening yes did you see any of it no it's really different okay it's really different okay i have not seen one titan okay in the three episodes yeah uh okay no i i heard about what where this goes and um i already kind of know what to expect it is very crazy yeah i know what to expect murdery hmm um yeah looking forward to that definitely heard heard good things how many episodes are there are three uh the second one has uh a piece of animation that is flying around on twitter with levi uses maneuver gear that is like a minute of the highest quite like like movie plus animation sweet um sweet sweet sweet it's it's really good lots of just it's it's really interesting
Starting point is 01:55:19 when you take a story that's all about giant you know monsters eating people and how and it got really gnarly at the end of the last season like really vicious and then you cut two characters just shooting each other in the face how different it is and how like oh i was getting numb to the horror and oh congrats the horror is back because now it's human horror it's something that i can actually empathize with it's it's it's crazy cool uh oh that reminds me so i played g a lot okay jeez i haven't had time to awesome boot up so so when we roll down the yeah when we roll down the announcements we'll we'll do those and whatnot um i forgot to mention it before but like i finished off mega lowbox and um i uh when i did that there was something really
Starting point is 01:56:06 unexpected and cool about how it ended it is very unexpected the way that ends yeah and it actually frames the short story this whole short story in a completely different light because what it's what the story you think the story is kind of a it's another sort of like pulling the rug from under unique your expectations in a way thing but on a like character level i really like um how it's like the the character is like this hot-blooded guy and it's almost like the show is like what do you do if you're one of them hot-blooded shonen kids and you have to grow up yep what happens then be an adult right and um the answer is more or less that will get you killed yeah right you will just die and uh uh the awesomeness there there are a dozen situations in that
Starting point is 01:56:56 show where he's like i'm gonna do it and someone goes oh we're gonna kill you like we're just being that hot blight then being that fucking fire red-haired character you know what i mean is going to just get you off there's nothing else to it and then as the story goes on you start to see that and then the whole parallels with like him racing towards a fucking cliff side yeah in the intro right and it's like just and you're like straight up like his it always cuts back to the imagery of him about to fucking drive off the edge because it's like the way you live will determine your death stop absolutely and you're and like these two things like living fast heart loving and dying young always go hand in hand because you're just like this is what you're about there's nothing more
Starting point is 01:57:39 important to you than that burning fiery passion all about living slow and dying whenever and like and so this and so this show kind of round up like without expecting you to expecting it like it addresses what to do with that so it's not about boxing where you go with that basically as a person all that fucking hot blood gar passion we've mentioned this before but nothing beats when josuke is talking to joker on joker was like what the fuck are you gonna do if this fucking fails he's like i'll die i guess i'll die joker was like what yeah it's super good that it does that it's good to break down that that stereo that archetype because we love because we love people like that but we don't think it's not applicable in the real world it's super nice so it's always fun when
Starting point is 01:58:27 little bits of the real world come in and work their way into the ridiculous like yeah the fun character that it's like you're not compatible with life man you're too like you're too cool for it you know you're not you're you are for fiction sir it reminds me of uh and the way it does it is not the way you're expecting so i forget i fucking watch it i forget who it is but somebody it reminds me of sin city when they're talking about marv and how marv was born in the wrong time yeah and how yes it's been a thousand years earlier he would be a god king swinging a battle axe at other warriors yeah but he's not he's in the modern world he's a loser yeah also uh i tweeted it out not long ago but like that fucking beat on the rap of the final battle it's pretty good oh
Starting point is 01:59:18 it's so good um but yes all right announcements we were sitting at dinner i pulled out i don't think there were any announcements we were sitting at dinner i pulled out my phone i showed it to max and and matt at the same time max what did you see when i pulled out my phone i saw really quickly uh an arica and then snk logo and i'm like well like i didn't really understand and then just a quick flash of of one mr bogart and it just said in big text terry bogart and i'm like i thought it was fake i didn't believe this is the fakest this is the weirdest like we're watching a trailer for like the other characters like pulling perna a volcano or also and they look really good look at those hype stages the stages
Starting point is 02:00:16 are nice yeah there's stuff there's stuff coming but but but but uh what happened essentially at evo the first of the year fucking fighting game megatons was straight up terry bogart's in fighting game ex layer why does this cool because why not because terry fits with that cast terry gets two announcements this weekend it's not like negan and they all speak anguish anyway he doesn't even terry on fucking show terry bogart having a conversation with alan snider are you kidding me that's great i they they should debate justice fist versus burn knuckle yeah justice fist by knuckle justice fist are you guys okay are you all right kick back you you need help this is english also i've been talking about it and here she is no one remembers her area's back
Starting point is 02:01:09 area you remember no i have no street fighter ex to area nobody knows street fighter ex to burning she had the uh no she had the skates on oh my god and she had the becca arm and she's the librarian style girl design back everyone remembers area this character sucks everyone loves area wasn't aware that you were into these moe blobs with the glasses area so she's been teased as well and what was fun was Sharon as well good old yep uh Sharon showing up with her guns uh really different design yeah um cool looks dope she's got a red dress on she looks a little bit like um uh ate a wong with like that dress but then like the sheriff belt and the guns and the jacket i'm really glad this game is getting a bunch more characters because now it's
Starting point is 02:02:08 like one two three four like five new ones i'm like it must have sold pretty well i think it's doing okay shout outs to uh sold at or above expectations shout out to my boy nerd josh for getting third place at that uh tournament at evo that was cool in fexel it would have been awesome if they could show mr in the finals i know like the game wasn't played at finals but hey well you know what matt it was too soon where will tell you show up next the game it was too too new of a game to be on the main stage you know you know how it goes it actually would have been right it came out of may no way it doesn't matter everything's stupid now cross tags run the fucking let run the numbers no we already know it's stupid i want i want to know the difference came out like the end of
Starting point is 02:02:53 i want to know the difference came out the end of june uh why are you lying to me wikipedia june 28th yeah versus two weeks ago cross tag was in may uh north america june 5th oh japan and see yeah so you know i mean three weeks is a long time matt it is three weeks is just whoo you know it's the difference between five nine and six one now we're all aware that that flex is kind of garbo but and like the fun garbo that we like yeah but like cross tag is also kind of garbo yeah what was the consensus at evo for cross tag yeah did anyone like cross everybody like all the garbo or were they like no garbo oh so terry bogart's in flex answer my question and uh that's a cool announcement that started
Starting point is 02:03:55 things out nice you know there was that big ol explosive holy shit right why is this guy here i want to look to garbo this is not a negan this is an akuma yeah uh so alongside that i believe next in line is there any other terry announcements there was was the other terry announcement what it happened while we were there yeah fatal cutie oh that happened then oh wow i thought that was like no happened on like one zero the way yeah like the day before i want to say fatal curie terry bogart joins snk heroines um so uh i saw this mac saw this coming especially well eagle brained viewers will remember that like yeah there was like a fucking what is an achievement that just said beat the game yes terry so yeah everyone's like yeah and now the weird part is that like you're
Starting point is 02:04:46 like okay so how they're gonna handle this right and they kind of just and the way they did it is it's just terry bogart it's just it's not it's not terry bogart it's nothing it's just straight up terry going looking at his tits and going why is this i think they're the i think the line was why is terry bogart a lady i he wants to know that too find out any finding yet no wait uh cross in the what is the name of this fucking heroine whatever the s and k drugs this fucking crap so you have this fucking masturbation tool well no it was it was terry trailer well it's it's always just i mean there's two things like like one um uh it's cool how you're like you're watching it you're well you're watching you're like i can't believe this goofy shit what's going on and so on
Starting point is 02:05:33 and so forth and then when it comes up at the end and they show you all the positions and then she comes in with the hat bat the back towards you and you're like the classic terry bogart pose you're like god damn they got that right despite all the nonsense happening around terry bogart they all have to wear fucking cat and made outfits and shit because it's someone else's dream does that mean they dream of just terry bogart i guess that's exactly what that means they have them but they all have their default costumes as of all so it's um yeah so one it's hilarious and great that they kind of are not doing any like like because the other version of the way to play this is like oh it's terry bogart like like madamex says yori right or it's uh or it's lankle yeah but here they're
Starting point is 02:06:16 like no there's no explanation bam because it's a dream but but uh it like the choice is basically made out based on like kind of getting us to talk about it in this weird way because of the popularity because if they just kind of wanted terry there was alice right there is just terry and like you know she just likes terry mother fuckers forgot about alice she likes team fatal fury but like yeah like she has a move from everyone i think yeah she has her own combination moveset right but she showed up in days of memory she showed up in the patchy slot and she showed up in kof 14 right but like she's no terry yeah my way loser in the day they just want like hey look terry's in here i mean sure but like yeah they they had fatal fury girl and i see some people complain
Starting point is 02:07:04 like well that's a slot that could have been taken from an actual like girl character i'm like you're right but there's still a million other girls that are not in the game regardless and plus steel sea is a thing like king's not in the game and also what also for king also technically good for king girl terry is was made first because in kwef 2000 you had a whole bunch of alt strikers yeah and so kiyoko came from there which is girl kiyoko and girl terry was in there as well and a bunch of other there's some really weird fun picks like dong wan and jay hoon showed up and like this must have g mantle this is 2000 kof 2000 strikers must have been a dream match uh yeah yeah it was okay 2000 was just this stuff yeah and it um no oh wait no no no no no
Starting point is 02:07:54 2000 was not a dream match how the fuck is it not a dream match they had but they had just extra characters too because it was 98 the dream matches were 98 and then 2002 so the strikers don't matter right and these are alt strikers as well so you're and they matter even less like it was it was you had all kinds of bullshit going on in there um uh kof 2000 i like how alice's bio says she's not the best at her job getting their characters over um like sure no wait sure me is in the game never mind yeah i wanted to i wanted to yeah so the maniac strikers and so on you had your neo and geo smart chang yes smart chang oh my god was a young cut sharp chang i wasn't aware of this character yeah and and it was sharp chang on cool choy chuk choy bouge as a tall cool guy like the
Starting point is 02:08:53 kof 2000 had some awesome crazy alt strikers in there saying cool choy means that they know we put this fucking stupid total game and he's late toto was just listed as unknown it's just toto right like the forgotten uh brian battler lucky globber heavy d mr big or ochi wild leona what's wild leona wild leona is uh or ochi leona basically cool with the pink hair um yeah man they brought they brought in all kinds of wacky shit going on and uh neo and geo from the fucking old quiz game yeah yeah so anyway no that they she's she's existed before but yeah terry bogard it's awesome yep i took my picture with the standee and that's what i got out of that ah did you yeah i know it's cute i feel like the in-game model looks fucking awesome oh yeah
Starting point is 02:09:47 oh yeah but you're talking about kof 14 graphics so no but i mean even for all of that and even i in the game that she's in because like how fun the art is that the i think the model looks awful like the proportions and the posing like just look terrible yeah i remember being like oh that's cool and then i saw the screenshot that's at the bottom middle there on the screen you guys you can at least match for me for the audio listeners and i went oh what are you describing the fucking standing idle of the middle screenshot of i'm saying for pot of class standing idle of terry bogard in this game looks like dog shit uh it's not so colorful and fun looking but whatever it's s and k 3d what can we do so don't want kof 15 so then we had the tech and
Starting point is 02:10:37 five grand finals followed by the negan announcement but alongside the negan announcement they were also revealed season two and season two consisted of anna williams and lew along coming back more importantly we get the fucking storyline background on these two and anna's storyline is fucking ridiculous and awesome yeah so nina's hero sister and nina's back to being the villain it was so rad so anna shows up and she's in her trailer reveal she's wearing a funeral like a widow uh gown right this edge lordess yeah and anna the reason given in the story for her wearing this as nina's wearing that wedding dress that's also unexplained yeah it's it all shredded up is because apparently in the downtime anna got engaged to this mafia boss and was going to be
Starting point is 02:11:30 happily wedded and like actually in love gonna get married happy and on the wedding day nina shows up in a wedding dress and assassinates the fuck out of she steals her wedding dress and assassinates the fuck out of her husband and so anna's like i'm a fucking kill you yeah but why is nina wearing the the wedding dress because she's the assassin that's the stolen wedding dress oh stolen what don't fail down walk off she she she she she pretended to be anna yeah and then killed him uh yeah he disarmed out at that point um the season two trailer also revealed some wacky shit that looks like wall bounces are getting added to the game so it's a crazy mechanical thing to add so that's new um by the way do you guys know about what leech how long's new storyline is
Starting point is 02:12:17 leech how long uh after investigating g corp like kind of had like it kind of ran out of leads yeah and so he kind of went dud and then something new popped up when a real demon said that it was in charge of a corporation so he's like i'm gonna investigate that but also i really hope i could meet lucky yeah so the actual reason he's going out there is because he saw lucky chloe on tv and became a huge fan and he's globe traveling around this bullshit so that he can hang out and meet up with lucky chloe all your is making his game all all your heroes love lucky chloe eddy gordo is a backup dancer for lucky chloe that's outrageous that man is so rich why isn't roman getting over but also like let's make roman the heel villain leech how long i mean the the heel face leh wu long
Starting point is 02:13:10 sorry why do i keep saying leech how long because that's a different character all three of us said it i said le i said leh wu long yeah you did but then you said leech how long i think later i don't know whoops leh wu long whoops leh wu long he looks so he looks really cool he always looked really cool no he did but like i just like you know what's interesting is he's speaking english um he's from hong kong yeah and they can speak english that's what yeah i know i just like it's he's a he's a jackie chan guy yeah although although his face has gone in a completely different direction he's no longer jack he's no longer jackie chan um he you know like it was the jackie chan to the to the to the to the fucking law ruth lee he's no longer jackie chan now he's super cop sure yeah he's even wearing the
Starting point is 02:13:52 jacket like fucking police knots and everything and then neegan drops in and everyone goes what the fuck um no you mean police knots police knots yeah okay yeah and i know pull i know super cop yeah but i'm saying he's wearing a jacket like police jays uh jonathan ingram kind of thing anyway so fuck you herata and then we got dragon ball afterwards and dragon balls one up to this event was sure i already knew we already know that base goku and base vegeta are coming i love how on stage they're just like fuck that noise we're not even gonna bother telling you about it there was a big gap where we thought no announcements were coming and it was really weird because we were like is dragon ball just not gonna have like a spokesperson because we she just she
Starting point is 02:14:39 came she was here and entered the pools and they were like what happened but then no she came out alongside the suesha um publisher so that they could tell us that akira toriama wrote them an email that morning wishing everyone good luck and then they showed uh base goku and base vegeta and not in like the lame trailer way which is like those like you know 15 second the cinematic way cinematic with all the got them over yeah that's dramatic finishes and the accurate like recreations of moments of the old stuff looked really cool and uh it worked out it worked out and alongside that they revealed cooler as the next character it's a like cooler with the mask on most importantly yeah i hope like he can do a metal cooler ultra confirmation of tournament 17 to be the next
Starting point is 02:15:30 character because that list is just that list right this is is seven for eight now yeah i mean dude ripped assets are ripped assets right but no cooler i remember this trailer for a while too when they're it started out was mostly napa footage and timo just the other he's like napa confirmed i think i told you this is the first time i've seen napa in a dragon ball yeah never select so i i mean i've i've there's a there's some really good napa players out there sure but yeah i he's not a very popular choice you're correct uh basic goku and vegeta we got to take a look at their extended move lists um what went out packs put out a video breaking them down and besides being incredibly boring choices for an extension of the roster mechanically
Starting point is 02:16:17 they have some really fun stuff going on i'm sure um just like how bar doc is super cool the coolest thing i'll spare the the the the details and i'll just get to the meat of it and say the coolest thing about um goku basic goku is uh one his kaioken super he does a bunch of like it's almost like a series of super reka's in a way and he does more attacks depending on whether he's alone with two people or with three so if you do it at level one he does five like different kaioken attacks and each button you press makes him attack from a different direction but if he's two players but if you're a team of two then he does uh more like two more attacks tech seven and then if he's the last one left as an anchor he has nine um and then you can choose what kind
Starting point is 02:17:00 of ending it up yeah and the coolest thing about uh also he's got a full-on spirit bomb and the spirit bomb is super slow and it does like 60 percent of your health if it hits you and there's only one way to combo into it it seems uh so far is by hitting them with like this kind of like level charged up stun mini spirit bomb thing but anyway like the point is is you can do a fucking crazy ass i'm doing the slow thing up here and you can try to stop me and see what happens but like i saw a video of someone trying to teleport behind and it was too big and they just got they just ate it so yeah there's there's gonna be like uh you gotta find something else out to beat the spirit bomb because it's a fucking spirit bomb um and then
Starting point is 02:17:40 vegeta's coolest thing is that he has a command grab where he grabs you and the and the camera zooms in and puts it in the exact same place that it does in the manga when he grabs napa and goes like you're worthless and tosses you up into the air and you can follow it up the lamest looking move ever you can follow it up with a ton of different things you can go up there you can air combo you can follow it up with whatever but if you follow it up with the level three he does the exact kill he does on napa where he just charges and shoots the beam up without any effort and dragon ball starts after the sands sure so uh that's that's what's happening there and hey cooler cooler is cooler he's cool
Starting point is 02:18:20 i wonder if they'll ever add a fucking it's her dad lord fridge or whatever yeah lord fridge king cold king cold king cold is a loser ass job he's killed in one second uh the correct me if i'm wrong the the leak list and have dabra did it no good and the only one left is uh is 17 he's another massive jobber wasn't tapeon supposed to be there too wasn't um no it's it's just this list plus 17 yeah there was a list with uh tapeon on it yeah that's what i'm again good we're going with like oh yeah when we can get pecan bringing back jenemba and shit yeah pecan jenemba everybody from that movie yeah yeah um quite frankly like if there isn't a season two that just brings you know the girls it would be yeah it's a real shame i wish that a bit unfortunately
Starting point is 02:19:09 like there's no super saying girls you could possibly put in the game so yeah that don't exist thankfully there's a human girl you can put in the game you can but launch it's that one's for you elie it's just weird but it's also like maybe they're thinking like my lot i'm trying to think about it i'm like maybe they're giving it the release priority that they would have this or any other dragon ball game well that fucks jiren good question like where's todd howard too too many you're super right where's your left you're right it's the big bad well see you know when they hear leave jiren to me they they heard like leave jiren out to me subtle let's just fuck it subtle subtle announcement in this trailer um of jiren where was it there's a
Starting point is 02:20:04 really short moment where uh you see android uh 17 us 18 holding her hands up um what part just just say that's all that's all same side yeah and one of their little announcement things there's a really short part where 18 is holding her her hands up and she doesn't have the jacket on and that confirms costumes cool so that means the confirmation of costumes confirms the possibility of great same man as a get as a go hand costume yeah confirms the possibility of movie broly i was about to replace new old broly yeah it confirms a lot of possibilities yeah so that's cool i could you confirmed it right here there you go willy willy with the hot announcement and then of course after hey wait if they have
Starting point is 02:20:53 costumes then why do we have fucking five goku's um shut up because gameplay differences no yeah you there's so many fucking characters again uh they're thinking about it i'm possibly thinking like any other dragon ball release like they were like well xeno versus put out what's popular first and do this guy and that kind of and you're looking at this roster you're going for a fighting game you need to kind of be more doubt you can't just put another saying in there and they're like fuck you we can't put two no third no matt's answer was right what which was just shut up yeah just how you fucking max answer was the correct one yeah yours was your you know what no willy your answer was correct mine was right yeah because that's what is actually
Starting point is 02:21:40 happening i'm gonna be salty about this for the whole fucking length of the game's existence i'm i'm we're right there with you it's so like that i hate the logic of wasted slots but it never felt more like a wasted slot they are the same person and they're already there twice with blue hair like fuck anyway if you if you count bardoc there are seven goku's and vegetas i mean i don't count the thought process like he's a different character the thought process of like hey it's a cheaper character to make because the model just has to be slightly modified but it's like i know but it's like you had normal hair goku in the story mode and you had and you just take
Starting point is 02:22:28 vegeta and give him this fucking a bearded ryu is his own character like yeah yeah like but in no gameplay difference only in your only in fucking dragon ball can that be a thing but that's the place where it's a thing and you know what makes it worse you only say so much worse i unironically see people unironically just going yeah but fuck that wins kid goku though yeah i want here's the thing though man i would be so much more okay with that yeah because it's at least a different body size and it's representing the early dragon ball but now it's too late kid goku can never be yeah give me ajirobi i want like tons of stupid shit i want yajirobi fuck it yeah like you just said i want bio broley i want mr san one bio broley i want uh
Starting point is 02:23:14 fucking super 17 i want baby yeah baby you want gt baby vegeta would be fine you add another goku add one super saiyan for every extra goku here is a janin basla that was stolen here's the here's the thing though like um so i up until now i would have said baby is impossible because toriyama had nothing to do with that shit and it's embarrassing and broley's but broley's in the game so that just throws that out the window yeah but then but then people love broley and people love toriyama and toriyama is kind of taking credit for that little bit yeah so i invented you know it's not it's a little bit of whatever coolers in the fucking thing he's a movie yeah he doesn't count you know if you yell hiding movie people and anyone can go if you yell hard enough
Starting point is 02:23:57 people will bring back super saiyan format okay super saiyan for gojita as well no wait wait hold on hold on wait i forgot about a bunch of characters zeno verse got it all i forgot about we have we have we have goku and vejita you have blue goku and vejita you have base goku and vejita you have vejito then you have zamasu and fuse zamasu goku black goku black what is that fucking 10 people that are all like the same person there are 8.2 goku's in the game HD executioner did the math and and you could get you could get baby goku from gt as well and you can get just dragon ball you should get an ape as well so with the costumes comes the possibility of piccolo with his back hat backwards golden uzaru yeah that's that's gonna be some
Starting point is 02:24:55 outrageous shit because there's going to be at least one of those costumes that turn somebody in will completely different character and they're going to be a costume but these other things are going to be different characters and not costumes oh get ready there's also there's going to be a piccolo costume that's going to be like nail nail or something you know like yeah yeah or or or or demon piccolo and it's going to be outrageous shit or if you get that big dinosaur that go that piccolo made gohan kill oh the original fucking blue blue dragon fucking monster yeah that that guy too i mean it is really weird when you just straight up go like oh hey oh wait wait um what the fuck is that weird not frieza frieza character who uh ice frost frost yeah that's a costume no it's
Starting point is 02:25:47 going to be a character that's a fucking costume is going to be a costume fuck it future gohan from the from the trunks movie oob oob oob on boo makes his stretchy limbs make a lot less sense looks awful really but an omega shenron speaking of shenron fucking wow we as we saw him twice twice well he got well he got like hyped but really pissed about being hyped because i can't believe it's a real thing it's a real thing like like the tack is real like he actually deliberately was able to do it twice um fucking midway through grand finals man able to do it with either uh it doesn't matter yeah and then just as the someone tweeted out just like shenron's like yo i gave this nigga two wishes and he still didn't win like fucking or sonic fox just too strong or vegeta
Starting point is 02:26:45 just calling it getting himself buffed and not calling in a friend is the most canon thing in the world and it always happens on a like sliver of life left right at the end of the match like it's unbelievable to watch that happen in real time because it's items in smash except they're so rare and pointless that you don't even worry about and you have to work your ass off to you kind of we all just were worried when we saw the mechanic announced and then we saw how hard it is to get them and then we went oh okay get them you fucking deserve it who cares and just completely ignored it and then they fucking worked towards it and made it happen twice and actually pulled it off it was hype as fuck wait a bit way to make everybody hype for items in smash yeah
Starting point is 02:27:27 yeah it's like the reverse in smash community unbelievable um and then of course alongside that when street fighter should get a fucking costume uh i agree i mean they already had that wolf guy from the seriously super add one of those dudes right that screenshot with that screenshot was tweeted out with goku back grand finals looking good yeah just that fucking wolf like getting ready to fight goku uh yeah that's funny um so the the the the they came out and then they revealed g in this really awkward um stilted embarrassing the cosplay moment and so that's the voice actor that plays g by the way was it yeah context okay it was unclear i mean it was clear what they're trying to do but it's like this isn't gonna work people just kind of want
Starting point is 02:28:17 gameplay yeah and i might be on that video going play a gameplay i i have to mention though after beating g's story mode this and everything about it and its reaction are completely appropriate to g's character yeah have you done g story mode no no so i i you know who g is g is a crazy person on the street who films himself being a crazy person on the street and uploads it to youtube with shit views yeah right okay and use the social media yeah and and rashid who's just wasting his entire day shit posting yeah finds it and goes wow this guy's weird what if what if i show what hey what if i suffer sub what if i got in his show then it would get more hits right and that's his whole fucking storyline now is he's he's he's a crate by the way g is a crazy person
Starting point is 02:29:10 but he's got powers yes no but like i i've been playing as him for hours and hours and hours i have over a hundred matches now i've seen most of his win and lose quotes or most of his win quotes and he is a he is a one hundred percent crazy person he you know how he says the power of earth yeah he has like a thousand variants of that he says nothing else ever okay that's all he ever talks about or says and there's no depth or detail it is literally just over and over the power of we all must unite at one i'm the president of the earth like over and over and over he is a psychopath okay good to know in in his in his promo art and in his character like win pose all that and in his stances he's portrayed as happy and like heroic yeah but in all his art in game he's portrayed as
Starting point is 02:30:08 villainous okay and like he is he is a street weirdo okay interesting i didn't catch that who's desperate for views he's the freak pic he is he is alex alex jones slice sure he is alex jones kimbo slice the fighter he is maximum president he is dangerous president yeah he is g um no hints as to why that second costume zero zero i beat the story mode and it unlocks like a what he has a fucking hockey mask on his face like it's not even well and his moves are really similar so the point i'm trying to make is like him getting out in front of a crowd and being a weirdo crazy person is in character and the crowd going uh that's g okay okay okay totally nailed got it so when i saw that throw with the fucking backbreaker so i went uh i played a little bit of g
Starting point is 02:31:05 his backbreaker throw is the same animation his rush punches are the same his jumping hard punch is the same his command grab is either the uh command grab that the i forget the name it's either uh the command grab that uh q has or deadly double version is deadly double with the follow-up yes that dude is q period or he's a weird mutant and q is the second weird mutant later on it and the similarities are max is on stream last night talk i don't see where people see it he doesn't look like q at all like like the we were we were not the first thing i saw was that throw and i went oh my god they might be doing it it's he's cute now the the question is what remains is just like it was talking because it's not going with Simmons or like okay so either the president
Starting point is 02:31:55 of earth has to go into hiding or gets gets kidnapped and brainwashed and turned into a robot weapon i assume he is already brainwashed and crazy and losing his mind yeah and then he just do the illuminati and then he loses it even harder also and just becomes me i was talking to people and you know how you know how the elements that they use in street fighter the chinese elements okay traditional ones okay so it's um earth fire wind earth fire wind slash lightning yeah um water and then steel sure so urian got steel and lightning and um gill got fire and ice which leaves earth which is yeah yeah okay that makes sense he even uses it like they do he encases himself in gold yeah he throws it like gill well the fucking full aura around him on his v skill
Starting point is 02:32:51 is like yeah the most telling he looks like a third brother yeah yeah yeah there's a lot of that okay that makes a lot of sense then wow so then what happens to make it become that you know and his it's a bit i mean it's a bit of a bummer that's q is not like detective deca of mystery whatever but you know president of the earth now yeah that's better but he's also insane and and like maybe his letters are like as his brain melts the numbers the letters go down yeah maybe you know so we you've talked particularly in the past about how it feels like there are different animation people on different characters in yeah a lot of people well g got the good ones because he is he reminds me of abigail in that if you let shit play out he has super long like
Starting point is 02:33:43 fancy animations after have you seen his idle stance yes i have so have you seen his idle stance i heard something that it can do when you let it rock for a minute solid and you don't move he starts doing his whole like he clears his throat and then he prepares to talk and then he spins and does his power of the earth thing and it does a 500 damage explosion he points to heavens and it blows half your life away if you don't move for a minute right like like the one that gets me is off his ex or his max president rush punch off the wall bounce if you just let it rock he pulls a knee up and then starts snapping his finger while going in a little circle because he's like yeah yeah yeah yeah no the the the taunt or he's like shake hands with the president
Starting point is 02:34:33 i'm disappointed but probably probably the best really nice the first thing you ever see is his forward walk is unbelievable because the first step of his forward walk is him turning towards you and doing that like fucking politician royalty way oh yeah and then he turns back to the fight okay okay he's great okay interesting everything about g is cool he's a ton of fun to play he's super weird to play all his moves are goofy like his fireball goes under other people's fireballs if we if we went back to 1999 and someone pointed at q and went that's a blinkin i would have fucking magic i wouldn't like yeah that's a little a blinkin you don't know what's under the mask oh god everyone thought it was charlie and then there is sagat but who cares let's talk more about
Starting point is 02:35:23 g i feel really bad for sagat because sagat is sagat and he looks cool he has a tiger and he's got cool shit he has a tiger but he's not the new hotness like g is so yeah i marked out a little bit i marked out a little bit um man oh man do i love me time being applied to the characters i love i got this robe and it's torn the sense i don't need one i don't need a new one sagat has been in the mountains tigers and he's hanging out with his tiger he helped that village out this tiger taught me shit you know and then he just kind of chilled did you see the detail on his classic nostalgia costume not that one the one with the other ipatch so yeah he's got the nostalgia costume where he's wearing um the the lengthy ipatch that's like one band street fighter one sagat
Starting point is 02:36:18 yes it's just they modeled his face to look a bit more goofy yeah it's fucking more importantly no scar that's true and then he's got the traditional um tie outfit as well on the other outfit but his defaults the best yeah man time is the best spice for your fighting game characters you know what's great it's like at some point during this i think in one of the character breakdowns they showed off him beating up bison like he a win quote against bison and he says our paths will never uh what is it it's over our paths will never walk the same path again great great done sagat is sagat is sagat it's like i hung out so he'd fight for you he wasn't into those all this evil crime shit and i called this the night before the night before i was like they're gonna double down it yeah and
Starting point is 02:37:08 then they not only did they double down it what i didn't call was we're double downing it and you can download it right now oh that's that's the craziest part like there's a lot there's a there's a become a task list like a tier list excuse me of announcement bombs and then how to make them bigger and bigger and brain shot right yeah and it always starts with announce the then announce the announcement of the thing yeah which is the worst announce the thing that's great announce the thing and give a date for it announce the thing give a date for it and show tons of it show it all and announce more than we thought you were gonna get announce the sequel to the thing that we're talking about show it all and say that it's available right now right now yeah so that was
Starting point is 02:37:54 good thing they didn't say was available right now during finals because then everyone a little left yeah they know it's tomorrow they said tomorrow yeah i know that's good thing that it was late tomorrow right now is like people people in europe didn't get it until wednesday but like people that were in's that are still tuesday whatever people that are still in vegas today or we're like oh motherfucker this internet sucks yeah can't get a 13 gig patch in a hotel room don't worry about it figure out that g will wait for you yeah guilty gear still like the president of the aw he's so good guilty you're still like a fraction of the size of of street fighter and its updates it's insane i think i think kody on his own was a 15 gig update yeah it's insane um
Starting point is 02:38:35 so that happened and then beyond that uh sung minna and asteroth confirmed for for for soul caliber six of course yeah you know like these are my two favorite characters oh you like sung minna yeah i never liked to kill it i was always like man when i well you know okay you know those guys were like when's when coming back and you're like shut up yeah i was that person whenever sung minna was not in the roster because i don't like kill it i like sung minna okay um and asteroth is my guy i mean this asteroth is is looking mighty asteroth looks like a warcraft character war the warcraft version of the eight of the part one design you know what i'm fine with that i like his shoulder because they think his dumb character street fighter as fuck a soul caliber five asteroth
Starting point is 02:39:16 is like the worst asteroth yeah because they went they went too far with it they and it's funny because going too far with yoshi mitsu is perfect like i don't go going too far with asteroth it gets wacky i don't think that he had that move in five but he has a it appears he has a new move where he grabs you on the floor and then drags you into a nearby wall and shoots yeah i mean that looks so good um so yeah does he his at his like bane uh fucking mask and then the fact that how close he is to his original really makes me think like that's the aesthetic they're going for like let's redo what you liked in the early games you know uh sung minna um i liked her green outfit and more obviously but also like i like because i had the white like trimmings on it
Starting point is 02:39:59 this one's like all right it's fine but uh i think she had nicer outfits in the she's got a knife on the end of her stick what are you gonna do about that killik probably hit her from a farther range uh they're about the same um turn into nekali they they used to have they they used to be like you know echo fighters of each other yeah and not anymore but also but yeah so that that fucking like install shit is really cool too or like for in front killik's case he buffs and he's like losing life as he's got that thing on it's pandora mode i called it on stream to which even looks like everyone went wow it was a reset the clock moment on the pandora mode it's coming back this game's got a good roster looking like it has a good roster right now
Starting point is 02:40:42 i think they confirm no other guests though good fine damn it no neck red gerald's great the only bummer about him is he's not gonna be back no blood hunter but i mean they'll give him they'll give his moveset to some new character yeah but lady maria would have been nice you know when sony all stars two happen lady maria and then she does the thing that we just found out where when she kills you she holds you and embraces you and lets you down slowly and she pulls the knife out god damn lady maria is the best uh smash had its announcement and it got fucking booed as we said earlier because the smash community are always the classiest the smash announcement first of all nintendo getting involved at all is like a surprise period
Starting point is 02:41:31 but um they got on stage and said yep on uh the eighth we're gonna have a smash direct which is tomorrow crawling out from their sludge toilet caves but you know to boo but like as much as that involvement as opposed to none is uh is uh is a surprise the fact that that's why you should boo it the fact that it wasn't on stage then is like the mistake they made um don't do that to people and i can't give these fucking people nothing in a in a fucking event center with thousands of people watching you can't walk up and drop a date on the screen now you know what you know what that's what they deserve yeah okay uh i was in my hotel room chilling and then suddenly they said hey those leaks you heard about bb tag are real hyper confirmed but also you can go downstairs
Starting point is 02:42:16 to bar fights and play them now so i got up and ran downstairs did you touch a cahico i touched that he told you not to don't play your main i touched him well what happened well the first match was extremely confusing for me because i can imagine uh he wasn't doing anything that he used to do that's right right so um and i was playing against someone that was really good then you had to play the game so i was kind of just like scrambling on the spot but my first thing was like okay let me do a kill rush and i did a hadoken and it and he didn't do a kill rush he did the fucking corkscrew yeah and then i was like let me maybe it's a different button and i go through all the buttons and it's like no he just does the corkscrew when you do hadoken i was like
Starting point is 02:42:57 okay let me go backwards and i went backwards and he jumps in the air and he does the dive and i was like oh boy that's that's not even a thing that you know like that okay um i can't say now so i didn't play gian sagat because i was actually working on with acajico or sagat you will love he's got everything he always had plus some plus more kicks yeah um sagat is very classic like he did not get you know how a lot of sf5 characters got remixed he did not he throws fireballs tiger shots rather uh after labbing acajico and figure figuring out exactly what they did i can say that um he still has 60% of his tools wow and um when he's doing his mix up strings on you like the rushes that you can then go into like you know over you like overhead or low or throw and
Starting point is 02:43:50 stuff that's all still there um it's pretty much the stuff you can do defensively that's been mostly taken away so like his counter is not there anymore um you can't just control your your your your back dash into forward dash anyway it's whatever i'm not gonna use this game garbo or not it's not my cup of tea okay but i really enjoy playing acajico i'm going to give him and mercava an honest shot in this game and i'm going to go play with people who are better than me at it and hopefully they can teach me something because uh i'm more than willing to enjoy a fighting game if it's possible i'm not that stubborn i think that i'm gonna just write it off i have to say that i can have phrasing is a little weird what i'll enjoy it if it's possible i i think that's
Starting point is 02:44:39 good you want me to make you want me to make sense of that for you yeah i'll unpack it i will unpack it as uh as cleanly and as neatly as i can i like my characters more than the games they're in okay that's it all right that's all i needed by the way you know who g also is he's not just q he's also the resurrection of hakan hakan will never come back because of the oil versus presidentiality it's exactly the same but it's not because it's not a timer it's a knockdown thing no but but like the way you apply you have to apply it in the same way it works yes um but yeah that's it the two weirdos that i love have been combined into an even bigger weirdo uh there is uh also mitzera's fucking like it's amazing looking at how mitzera is
Starting point is 02:45:33 once upon a time like the most unstoppable annoying character to fight that's such a beast yeah and because her range is so far compared to everyone else with all this bullshit and you're like did you see gordo's fucking shife you know he's got shitty normals have you seen that sword girl's fucking sword like full screen swings what what do you got anyway marron fucking karen maybe i don't know uh anyway and then in non fighting game news real quick we got the personna q2 announcement hilariously coming to the 3ds but that those games suck anyway so who cares but hey if you want to see the interaction between um p5 characters and their counterparts in the previous games you can have that little moment like in that comic
Starting point is 02:46:19 stripper they're like hey look at my evoker hey cool that's a cool gun look at my toy gun that's a cool great gun hey now to what's your gun she's like it's real that's a gun um what the only thing that matters the most interesting about this q2 yeah is that the persona 3 mc has now entered into a form of canon femc shows up at the end of this trailer and straight up is like i'm me under smt rules and him too she now exists for real z somewhere femc is real real and that's a cool thing i like that a lot if you don't want to support 3ds games don't buy 3ds games like that's the only way nintendo will stop simple no actually i'll do you one better or japan if you don't want to support the 3ds
Starting point is 02:47:08 shame your friends for buying 3ds games yeah it's not gonna make them feel really bad um so i forgot i know i forgot stop them her basically it cost them i don't know if she has a canon name or not but i always call her mina sure because but minato arisato in p3 when you look at the um that's not his name anymore i but it's the one i like so i'm sticking with it i know i like it therefore i know they've changed it but i like minato a lot um but yeah the main the p3m the p3 main character has like they have that screenshot of the moment where it's like oh mitsuru the hot she was like down she was at uh whatever if i can she was bill i saw her in a bay so oh my god it was so hot it was just like did you get any photos and you can be like yeah
Starting point is 02:47:55 or nah but when you're as femc it's like did you get any photos it was like i'll sell you one for a thousand dollars it's just like okay so these are different people these are different characters um yeah i hope i hope i hope uh she's a dirt bag yeah i like that difference but i also like the idea of there being a femc possibility in persona games and i'm kind of bummed that three was the only time they did it it's a lot of the they've talked about this and they're they've talked it's like it's something they wanted to do for the release no it's like the original release of p3 they wanted to have her in there oh and it got cut and uh that was not the case for the future games it's such a standout fad favorite thing but like everyone loves that and then it's
Starting point is 02:48:43 it's really crazy because they've talked about other stuff that they've cut yeah every time they talk about it everyone goes why did you fucking cut that because cutting you know fuck it what's her name um uh a shogi girl yeah she's supposed to be a party member i remember hearing that yeah if you're supposed to be able to romance sigh sure um yeah the i mean dude yosuke's lines were recorded for that romantic yes they were in english in english they did them anyway it it the thing with femc and p3 was that it also gave the ability to romance the guys who are not normally on that type of s link in the games yeah which completely changes the whole waifu chart guess what akahiko akahiko so they should so having like they really should open it up because it just it's it adds so
Starting point is 02:49:27 much more content and so much more you can do with these uh fucking games and i think they can do those things anyway but they just don't yeah it is a lot of work though it is a lot of work to double like with some of that work got mitigated by the fact that p3p was text boxes yeah you know what p5 i would take one less dungeon in exchange you know of course because you get a whole extra playthrough like there's so much content there anyway it's like fuck like you can skim that down a little bit to give a little bit thicker you know what though on the on the first playthrough maybe because there's there's some persona five s link stuff that if you really think about it's pretty creepy imagine how creepy it would have been if you had reversed those reverse the genders
Starting point is 02:50:10 on it people would maybe have freaked out the kawakami thing goes from fun but you know it's screwed up but fun to people getting fucking crazy yeah uh hey let's go hang out with a politician uh and of course uh let's just talk about the people get so mad um let's let's talk about the fact that ign did a bad one oh sure did what is this but not what mac doesn't know so let's have mac attempt a guess about what ign did a bad one for an ign writer okay what do you think they did bad need a little bit more an ign writer did a bad thing with one of their reviews any guesses um he reviewed something that wasn't quite out yet or no no he just stole it just stole it so uh mother's basement had a big thing of this not long ago i think he stole
Starting point is 02:51:17 mother's basement mother's basement was exposing some uh a brazilian youtuber stole that just just took his videos wrote the script down that word for word repeated his shit uh a dead cell's review went up on ign and word for word more not word for word but almost word for word it's the textbook plagiarism where they take the sentence and then they replace everything with synonyms and may yeah and the same structure and everything going through as philip uh mucin rips off the review by boomstick gaming hey by the way everyone go check out boomstick gaming with reviews good enough to steal there you go um and yeah it just kind of is like well that's an embarrassing no no of course but it's happened before and the other review well apparently the same guy i heard that it was the
Starting point is 02:52:11 same guy phil munchkin does anyone know what the game i do not remember so if that happened the same guy pulled us off fucking twice dude time to pack up your fucking things here's the thing because if you're playing imagine babies and you you're said you need to review this steal all you want i can understand that you don't want to do it i disagree but i know i would finish finish your point all you want i'm not going to hate on you for the fact that you didn't want to do it i hate the fact i hate the fact that you stole but i can at least understand that you don't want to do a thing it's fucking dead cells it's an awesome game that's been around for like a year on early access so you had infinite time to write this this is the thing that i actually because i will also
Starting point is 02:53:00 i get to say again i disagree with stealing and also that and this individual person might not have based on being like i have to review all this other shit my desk is too swamped all you need it next week there are so many parts to this and jim obviously put a video out of this this morning i'll quiet into it uh just check it out he sums the whole thing up everybody go watch jim sterling's review on this and also check out boomstick gaming they deserve it after all of this shit but what happened here because there's a couple things either what they didn't get enough time how they not get enough time so here's the game like jim matcha said game's been out for a year the the preview codes must have been gone out ages ago right for the switch version but but
Starting point is 02:53:38 let's ignore that okay let's let's do the part so either the person never played dead cells for whatever reason got it on their slate and just didn't want to do it or ran out of time right and stole it or they did play dead cells and they do like it but they couldn't be asked to write their own review so they just stole it you just know how to know and what makes this extra awful is how obvious it is that they tried to get away with it by stealing boomstick gaming is a very small channel yeah it was taken from this little guy no one noticed no one will notice yeah yeah didn't pick a big one for sure and i will have to agree with with one of jim's points is that what's even more like offensive than plagiarism is the idea that an ign review getting stolen
Starting point is 02:54:29 wouldn't get noticed like how stupid do you have to be in like in video games um see how crazy as if people are about this shit as if they needed more flak in the with the reputation they have you know like but but here's the thing though so uh the the the um god what is wrong with me i'm tired you're tired that's what's wrong with you i was falling asleep earlier you're holding it together better but word no happened come out what do you want to say plagiarism plagiarize your words so that you can talk still think about another point someone else made and just repeat it but you changed the words a little yeah i remember um it's that uh if i've going back uh like maybe 10 years ago or so i remember when uh of our a friend that we all have actually would write for
Starting point is 02:55:27 various online publications and do some reviews and stuff and when he was reviewing things like we you know talk about like how those reviews would come and go and sometimes you'd pretty much be in a situation where there's a chain email thread a number of games have come in a number of builds have come in they need to be covered people pick what their strengths are and occasionally there's shit left sitting there that no one's picking hey woolly that are not your strengths it's time for you to review soccer manager okay well i don't want to do that well too fucking bad but can't you get matt to do it no matt's busy with god of war are you you want to lay the god of war review no you're reviewing soccer manager by the way the reason i pick soccer manager is because that exact situation
Starting point is 02:56:12 happened on ign a few years ago you remember that shit where the guy gave the fucking soccer manager serious like a two said this game sucks you don't even play soccer yeah so you know um and the thing is we know that you can't football manager whatever you can't put it off and do it next week because next week another game's coming out or like this game's out next week like there's no time you do it right so there would there there would be these times uh that and and uh that my friend hire more writers or hire better ones well the money's not that great yet you know it's already not great for them to begin with a lot of them are starting it out pretty much pro bono but um so you know they they're the uh this situation was one that was described where yeah they'd be looking
Starting point is 02:56:51 at games that like are being left in the in the pile so to speak and people would have to more or less fucking rock paper scissors it you know and then do their best um there's also this is a game that is a very fun good one that people are excited about so it seems weird that it would be left in the pile yeah but it's definitely true that that pile thing also happens if let's say no one else around is a souls fanatic you're the only one souls games are big and they're known under popular but you're really busy on your god of war review that you haven't done yet like the release calendar can just happen so that it just it sucks so you would care and have the time to write this passionately if you didn't have to write another huge your thing but it's not the way the fucking
Starting point is 02:57:33 i put it this way think shook up imagine all that to say that it's just all those stresses and weird things come together in a horrible fucking decision to try and get away with bullshit by stealing someone's review as a possibility that i think i'm like i'm trying to put together like why someone would make such a stupid decision that is very that's the closest thing i can think of it's like this has to happen by now i literally don't have time to do it because anything else that anything else and like you're still an asshole but like anything else means you're an asshole and a gigantic moron well guess what i have a piece of the puzzle for you what the writer of this review put out a tweet before it went up going hey everyone i'm really proud of this review
Starting point is 02:58:19 it's the first one that i've ever been able to edit together myself wow for the video review of course it would be so everyone check it out jesus i saw that fucking tweet the amount of time it takes to rip off the review you could have made the review yes you could have you could have played the game for like half an hour i'll give you that and just be like this seems pretty good and then just make believe no man this is a big deal for my career look everyone i did it i made a really good one myself me shoutouts to boomstick gaming for simply saying hey guys what do i do about this doubling their uh sub count uh in the 12 hours yeah since this is a yeah i hope i gn fucking rips off our dump well i mean i'll be yeah because guess what you know you know what everyone
Starting point is 02:59:11 they don't like i believe they did actually what they never asked us for the permission for those xcom clips uh no i think they did oh they did i think i'm i oh okay i i don't remember whatever i'm sure they ripped us off somewhere well i think i was i mean there ain't no party like an i gn dump party remember that mcdonald's shit i don't oh god but yeah i gn's in a place where everyone really loves to go fucking i gn so why would you give them that i've had a lot of people leaving over the past couple years like it is i gn is falling apart in slow motion in front of everyone you know games good and is as it is 64.com can't yeah i miss watching quick time clips of ocarina of time i sure i could go my whole life without hearing the word quick time again and
Starting point is 03:00:07 i would be very happy no it was great crash your fucking computer i just want to watch a 10 minute you know there's there's this thing out there where it's like you know i gn and you know polygon and some of these sites just like you're not getting a good rap you you kind of want to well polygon was fucked because it started broken but you i'm saying you'd want to do everything in your power to like try to change that as much as possible and if you're working for them as a writer like every time you do this your one dumb decision makes the entire company like fucking get break over the coals because of your stupid shit right like as an individual don't be that dumb you remember i think was arthur geese the noted piece of shit who uh was talking in an interview
Starting point is 03:00:51 where people were were yelling at polygon of like you guys took like 50 it was a 25 or 50 grand from microsoft to that documentary about how they were going to change video game reviewing and the quote came out is like you really think that we would let ourselves get bought or influenced for like 50 grand yeah dude like right why would you ask that question in that way right like of course are you fucking stupid the implication is are you are you fucking are you a fucking moron the implication is that's exactly what i believe actually i thought that's why i'm pointing that's why i'm bringing this up because i'm pointing out that somebody gave you money and i think that you like them more now
Starting point is 03:01:42 oh fuck what you think just cuz he get what you think just cuz woolly rubbed my back and gave me a hundred dollars and bought me dinner that i like him better than you now hey i hit the good spot yeah i do those are nice things to do those engender friendships yeah see the weird thing so that makes me crazy when people ask a question like you're an idiot for asking it but the answer of the question is yeah there's a weird thing where it's like the whole um the whole saucing up the press with like your crazy lavish parties with like fucking tony hawk like skate you know skate runs Hawaii for captive and so on and like that'll never you know that that that'll never fucking go away put people you drive f1 cars around here looking at Gran Turismo but and those
Starting point is 03:02:30 things shouldn't affect a fucking review of course yeah but i say this also loving the idea of press kits a lot of the time because there's some really cool ones you know i don't know like that final fight barrel is really cool for fans of final fight yeah totally and it's nice that it existed am i paying you for a review now i'm just trying to make you have a good mood and have happy feelings wouldn't you think about all of the time right should have put a cody dacky macara and that fucking oh it's the time frame did not quite work out there let's check some emails huh hey you gotta email us send us super best friendcast at gmail.com you can send us money we'll like your email more i mean yeah yeah i mean yeah do you really think for $50,000 we'll read your email
Starting point is 03:03:22 for sure yeah i do a lot if you gave me $50,000 so you went way high on that i would have said like a dollar i mean fuck uh i'm um i'm about to lose my voice so let's let's this is a good time to finish up the podcast yeah hey hey talking is important for me we don't take bitcoins that shit's not real money yeah i do was there not esport coin announced at the fucking event uh yeah that's my that's my friend lapchi he's um he's making he's making an esports uh what determines its value uh sports the idea would be i don't i'm i'm gonna i can't even represent it because i'm not a fucking economist but an economist explained it to me he explained he literally explained the esports coin that is the best breakdown of what fucking cryptocurrency is
Starting point is 03:04:17 i don't get it an economist explained it to me he explained it to me and and and the and essentially it's an idea of like a coin that is going goes alongside um payouts for where we're we're like tournament winners and such okay and like you know um by getting it in the hands of more people at different ranking levels like there's a value that can like stuff that's fine yeah i don't know you said it and it's like i heard i know a bit about that because i know some of the people doing some stuff with that this is what i understand about cryptocurrency maybe it's a basic knowledge it's fake ass money invented by algorithms fine but it's fake ass money invented by algorithms that people have been tricked into thinking has value which guess what
Starting point is 03:05:04 means that has value yeah if someone will take it from you and give you real money for it it's worth something this conversation has been brought to you by micros at evo 2018.jpg yeah let's continue talking about trying to get away from esports no no let's continue continue discussing esports cryptocurrency yeah as we place a nice photo of micros electronic uh what is it electronic sports sports i forget the fucking acronym what repeated tasks simultaneously what absolutely not listen micros saw the future he saw a world ruled by esports and cryptocurrency and he said nah i don't want to be part of that see that's the future kutex is from yeah yeah absolutely that actually makes sense now that's why kutex came back because he has to make sure that esports
Starting point is 03:06:01 happen now that micros quit if esports doesn't happen then the future will refuse to change john connor yeah i don't think he is for esports i mean let's let's find out if connor would get if we go to embrace wind tournaments let's go to embrace that website's still up here we go embrace esports dot cash entertaining subjects playing overly repetitive it's gotta scroll it's gotta scroll back overly repetitive oh no oh what a terrible website thanks esports oh god it's is this worth where we're going it'll come back hell no it's not i we just but now we're going to do questions and you said we gotta get going overly repetitive tedious software there yeah no but you know what you know how sometimes we don't finish stories when we talk about when you guys start
Starting point is 03:06:50 them in an lp i always finish them and you know why because i'm the kind of person that'll get drive driven crazy when you start a story and don't finish it in an lp so i have to do it here's the thing i do get driven crazy by that but since i'm the one who knows the end of the story anyway it's fine oh that's nuts no i get bothered by it every time i and that's why i'll sometimes have it out like even if it's a joke and it's not funny anymore because it was 10 minutes ago yeah i have i'll do it yeah i'll bring it back and let people be like dually why the fuck are you still talking about that like i need to finish this we didn't finish it 100% hey here's a pro tip because as a result of me going eh people ask me hey pet what the fuck were you talking about then
Starting point is 03:07:33 provide a timestamp if you ask me hey what was that story with the thing i don't know what the fuck you're talking about give me a timestamp so i can follow the last 30 seconds of the conference i will be able to answer your question speaking of questions what is our first question slash email yeah hunter sends in hey there's super best combo cast i'm the guy who ran combo con this matters for the context of the question what's up dude of course we can attest that the dreaded encounter was an experience where he went 503 fighter four against kenny um uh but that was a game that was an easy win for him same with kenny picking mk9 or if you wanted to mk ultimate three ultimate mk3 um so for you guys what are one or two games that you would pick as the game you you would
Starting point is 03:08:12 absolutely win at for example um in the past cup podcast i mentioned it's not about what you like the most no it's not about what you like the most or what's the most popular it's the one that you know because you've clocked the most hours into it what do you what would you pick to guarantee that you achieve victory but it's like against two against a random random what what would you pick as your guaranteed win because you just know it too inside unless i'm playing against unless pat is across the table from me i'm picking anarchy reigns you mean schmup got pat yeah okay unless smut unless schmup got pat is across the table for me yeah i'm picking anarchy reigns because i think there's maybe a hundred people in the world that even know how to play that game at all okay
Starting point is 03:08:52 let alone like decent okay and i'm pretty good at it so yeah anarchy reigns for sure max anarchy if you want their same fucking game language doesn't even fucking change oh that game would be the best battle royale probably probably tournament fighters just because i know every single character like like killer ink stink is like no there's i i would have guessed i would have guessed a tournament but i but i also would have guessed a tetris attack tetris attack is a strong one too but i don't know if i beat anybody but yeah tetris attack a tournament fighters what about you man well in the question it was four so four but is it four because if you could pick anything anything tetris yeah see that's why i asked because you he says tetris
Starting point is 03:09:36 so you go hmm yeah well i'm i'm pretty fuck i think i'm pretty all right at tetris i'm probably i i hate saying that but probably world grandmaster champion yeah i'm saying of evo i'm not good at anything tetris i'm garbage at everything okay i'm never gonna i'm not gonna ever say i'm good at anything because don't get expectations it's funny because when the cameras are off he talks match it all the time it was the best no the answer is probably school four because anything else that anything else that i'm that i that i feel confident in is before shrew fighter four shrew fighter four is like not as far back as those games are so the more recent thing means there's more to remember right so the freshness of blanka from ultra four is still
Starting point is 03:10:14 you know like hot on the fingertips it's within your muscles exactly whereas i you know i was pretty good at like i like metal warriors back in the day but god damn it's been a minute oh yeah we played it we were all fucked you know so yeah it's still gonna be ultra shrew fighter four sure um i mean doesn't even have to be ultra quite frankly but yeah that's a good question yeah yeah i mean fuck like i think you and i both agree would rather go back to a persona for arena than ultimax because like i know we just never got into yeah never never fully uh explored that cast in ultimax arena came out alongside a bunch of shit uh no sorry not arena ultimax came out alongside like a hundred other and we got swept away they got buried yep sucks because it sucks
Starting point is 03:10:56 because that game's way better it's the yeah and the whole way and the thing i said about liking my picks more than the game they're in like i there's fewer unless it's persona for there's fewer things in video games i enjoy more than playing akiko in persona for arena like he's that fun to play as a video game congey's character one of my favorite grapplers ever he's so good he's super much we got we got um let's see i guess i don't know how that works but uh making a mcmurderer dare super a and w boys growing up mcdonald's monopoly would give us oh yeah that's gonna be a movie now yeah really you fucking well he said they need to make a movie and clearly some so did a hundred other people in hollywood and and fucking matt daemon and bafflek
Starting point is 03:11:40 straight up went yeah man we're doing it um so they optioned it and bought those rights growing up in donald's monopoly would be giving out uh two free pieces with the local sunday paper and you kids who would steal papers from the entire neighborhood to try and cheat a win and for their felony they were rewarded with that the most small fries and sandwiches have you ever known anyone in your lives to commit huge real crimes where the foreseeable payout was extremely minimal yeah but that's somewhat of a uh incriminating thing to talk about not about me but it's uh yes i i know people over long periods of my life who would commit petty crimes for a little payout gee i wonder who it possibly could be well i mean you know hope but uh uh and we're damn fools who
Starting point is 03:12:26 always got caught every single time um i mean look i think every time you watch a guy richie movie you're pretty much watching that happen you know very little money for a huge risk for being murdered um it's like 500 bucks do i know anyone the payoff was always like i mean i don't know for me i'm like it's so like my skew though is like the payoff is almost never worth it you know what i mean like it's just shitty you're just a shitty person for doing it a lot that y'all i don't know i like i can't think of anything really remember anything yeah it's a tough one because it's like running up into a convenience store and like putting a gun in someone's face for 120 dollars no man is so absurd you know i'll fuck it i'll blow him up
Starting point is 03:13:18 fucking i'm four years old my brother comes back to the house with a fucking bicycle brand new brand new my dad goes hey where'd you get that you found it in a dumpster it's not it's not trash day it's brand new what what dumpster you find it in that's as far as the plan was that was the whole plan fucking cake that was the whole fucking plan fucking like you got me like you got me boy they like uh we just worked it all out huh had the whole thing lined up it's like i'm a small child and i'm like really that was your fucking plan you didn't expect one follow-up question not exactly a payout and i think i might have said it somewhere else before but when i was a kid my mom had all the my mom bought a bunch of honey containers that were in the shape of bears
Starting point is 03:14:22 like she bought them from like a like a yeah scouts or whatever she had like three of them and just had them lined up and for whatever reason i'm like i'm gonna go downstairs i'm gonna poke a small hole in all three and it drips a bunch of honey all over the thing and then yeah and then the next morning my mom goes downstairs because what's the fuck is this shit and she's like did you do this and i'm like no i don't know who did it it's like your sister's away at a friend's house so it can only be you because i don't know why i would do this wow and i said maybe maybe you got uh containers that had a hole in them already and they're she's like no i didn't that's it this is destructive boy okay i was like six or seven
Starting point is 03:15:08 okay yeah that was the plan there's totally an impulse and a lot of people are like i want this thing i'm gonna get it there's there's no pleasure there's to be gained i want to see what how like can you get away with something you know well see here's here's the thing though what do we have to worry about our parents are gonna give us a stern talking to yeah like there's no payout we're gonna ground us there's no payout but there's not exactly like the worst outcome so jeez what's the worst that could happen really yeah uh no i really just i mean at the same time the worst that could happen in my case was getting beat the fuck that is what i was going for and sent to my fucking room yeah like like like when the stakes are different yeah risks get taken
Starting point is 03:15:57 the stakes were bodily harm and and and you know like extra Sabbath lockdown so you know um let's take one from johnny says hey johnny what uh yo sbfc turbo addition many people have extremely weird habits with their food that earned them hatred from others yeah i'm used to this because my habit of eating dry bowls of cereal with a glass of milk on the side that's not that weird if you said water then yeah if you said water you're fucking i mean you're you still are a psychopath for doing that i mean but yeah that's really not that weird what are your food habits that are totally normal to you but would make others freak out and disgust uh i mean i mean i mean
Starting point is 03:16:40 like the pineapple i mean sorry not pineapple the um the the the the fucking uh the cereal on the side shit is like are you just afraid it's gonna go soggy too fast like give an explanation for it you know i i understand you need to not want your your crunch to go away um i guess maybe sterilizing for you yeah um yeah man like like you know the the elaboration of the whole fucking breakfast meme ultimately is that like i don't care what time i'll eat a thing i'll eat anything at any time of day because it's food and i like the taste of things at any time um but i feel like one weird thing that i do that i don't see anyone else do but i have my reasons for it is i'll eat my bags of chips with uh i'll open them upside down why because they're sitting right side up the entire
Starting point is 03:17:28 time and the powder is all at the bottom and the crushed chips are all at the bottom so when you open them from the bottom first you get that extra flavor and you get more of that powder right away like i hate that you know what the powder is the worst in the end at the end of the bag so if you have it upside down you're just picking out chips with extra powder on them and by the time you work your way through the top which is now the bottom there's no powder anymore that's because you ate it but it's at the end of the eating the that's actually not that weird that just seems like a like a straight up discovered a a life hack is it no not a life hack but this changes the flavor of the chip yo what so flip the bag y'all i don't know why no one else is doing it sleeping on your
Starting point is 03:18:10 chips fucking wake up you know sheeple it's it's weird because i should be the king of this question as i do a billion fucking weird ass things all the time like the way that i sleep or go to the bathroom or put on my shoes or walk around but for food in particular i don't really have that many really bizarre ones there's only two that i can think of and that is when i eat this is this is going to be impossible to uh describe with words but i'll give it a shot imagine i have a fork in my right hand and i've eaten my food all delicious bite number one you prep bite number two right but you're you know you still got a while to go on bite number one and then i will for some reason just shake my fork yeah that's weird and i didn't think that was weird until it was pointed out to
Starting point is 03:19:06 me and as i was telling my dad that it was weird i was we were eating dinner and he was shaking his fork yeah and i okay that's a word and the other thing is that uh like this one i at least know where it came from is that i constantly constantly constantly put my whole hand in front of my mouth oh yeah when i eat yeah that's that's a lot i know a lot of people a lot of people get that i know exactly why i got it is because when these two front teeth came out and i had to wear fucking falsies for like a year you got to take those out when you eat which turn you into buck tooth boys or rather you know no gappy sure right sure and that's embarrassing as shit so what do you end up doing you i'm just gonna eat in your food behind your hands and uh turns out uh once
Starting point is 03:19:52 that's fixed that's a really hard habit to break that's a really hard habit to break but like yeah food-wise mine aren't even as bizarre as the rest of the stuff you gotta do another one uh it's not so much eating but i have flickies where i don't even i'm not even eating with my hands but when i'm kind of done with a meal i just go like this you shake your hands off like a little bit okay that signifies that i think i'm done with the gesture you're doing is like is like there's water on your hands and you're like flicking at that somebody yeah i think it's just like i think my hands might have crumbs on them but even though they don't because i used a fork and knife and and i was like oh there they're going to flickies there's the flickies that is starting with the
Starting point is 03:20:34 flickens that's a weird and i'm like i don't know i just like maybe not all the time but like especially if i'm eating something with like pizza or like my hands or whatever i'm like oh shit and then i'll wipe my hands with a fucking napkin too but i'm just like i just do that and that signifies that i am satisfied i've got one and it's not mine however it's my sister's but it drove me fucking crazy where everybody in the house likes blueberry pie well except for my dad right oh so every every week or two weeks yeah blueberry pie everybody have a piece of pie right my sister who really liked it would take the top of the crust off and pick out every single fucking blueberry with her fork oh god and then re reassemble oh god and then refuse to eat the
Starting point is 03:21:19 blueberry that's the worst that's the worst and she would do that with a lot of food too um yeah i guess like mine or yeah because i'm like i could think of two other things that are like hacky in the sense that it's just like i it's a weird thing that has a practical purpose to it sure there's two like two that two others that come to mind since like that's the same thing is uh one cupcakes all right i've shown you guys this before the the top yeah you take a cupcake cupcakes a delicious mess on top and you just take the bottom of the cupcake put it on the break it off from the muffin from the cupcake top and sandwich it and now you got something easy to hold yeah i think that's an abomination but there's at least a purpose there's something
Starting point is 03:21:57 you got now you got something to hold right and then the second one and this one took a while to figure out but it fucking like it took you a while to figure out like there was so many instances of this not working that i just got frustrated by it back in the day when my mom would make lasagna right um you would take it out of the oven and it would be awesome when it was fresh absolutely and you cut the perfect slice and you get some delicious lasagna cuts easy because the consistency is all there yeah the moment you fridge that shit up and reheat it it becomes a mess yeah reheated lasagna fucking sucks so what you have to do because it's only when you reheat right but when you first pull it out of the fridge it's still cold so it still
Starting point is 03:22:41 has its body but but then when you reheat it you go to cut it and then it just splats out everywhere cut it up while it's cold so you take your serving cut the cold serving into the pieces you're gonna bite then heat that up this doesn't sound weird at all this sounds like a way to prepare food but it's just no one no one does you don't do the pre cuts because you don't think about your bites before i like the fucked up lasagna from the left oh yeah i know i don't want that fucking mess man that's my favorite i do know so in my house do you know how we make lasagna they make the lasagna then we fridge it then we reheat it oh fuck and that's how it's i hate that that's horrible the consistency is 1000% the best when it comes out but the next
Starting point is 03:23:24 reheat is garbage unless you cut it into those fucking organa you know you get you get it right noodle and then you get to enjoy the full piece without it being all over the place and the whole sorry and the proportions you know because you don't want to have to guesstimate how much sauce to pick back up on how much lasagna and how much cheese and then sort of maybe make a guess when it was already perfect before that so you want to eat that fries is never fun yeah man oh the fries might as well just go right in the trash as soon as they're warm temperature once they lose their consistency and crispiness it's like i don't know poutine becomes another beast yeah cold literally it probably becomes alive cold poutine is just something i recently learned that australians
Starting point is 03:24:06 are not allowed to eat puts in what does that mean cheese crits are banned in the country because of they're unpasteurized oh fuck that's insane so they can put cheese on fries of gravy but i didn't put in that's that's that's fucked up um cool and last one from chris says um super best fighting robots last night shower thoughts consisted of odd names given to mechs in various series the sensibly descriptive vertical tanks of steel battalion or armored cores to the more obtuse names like arsenals and daemon x machina and whatever the hell an orbital frame is supposed to describe really stupid what are your favorite names given to the mechs um and what would the name and convention you guys come up with some of them we already just he'd listed
Starting point is 03:24:47 off some great ones is mine yeah it's really bad what do they call them virtual on uh oh god um cyber troopers i think i really if that's true that's lame i think i want to say cyber trooper virtual on um there's some fucking there's some good shit out there i always talk about the armored cores are always great um um um uh i always talk about gaima lef's in in escaflone armed slaves in the armed slaves in um full metal panic oh uh yagers yagers is fucking ran when we all first heard that we lost our fucking minds i gotta say my my favorite most consistent one is just the good old-fashioned mobile suit mobile suits mobile armor it's a they're great um they're great yeah tactical armor is a good one as well mega dais from uh big
Starting point is 03:25:40 oh bigos giant robots are called the are called mega dais um and uh and they like the one here and mentioned daemon x machina i think arsenals are pretty strong labors oh uh from pat leber metal gears fucking bonzers bonzers yeah yeah yeah ride armors yeah gears gear oh i'm an asshole no yeah yeah how'd i remember that uh yeah yeah and yo uh fucking i should be a friend buster machines what is buster gun buster fucking gun buster and die buster okay they're called the buster machines that's super dumb it's fucking great yeah we're gonna make a mecha show one more i have to look up something over man what is over man from over man king geiner they're called over man's what about escaflone uh i said gaima lef's that's the first one i said
Starting point is 03:26:40 i didn't hear titans no wait that's the different they're not max they're titans um titans are we talking about i'm talking about titanfall i'm talking about flesh titans jesus it's like a robot well no think about it um about it battle do you remember what they're calling battle clash no sts okay standing tanks standing tanks yeah like vertical tank walking to vts yeah that's okay let me ask you a question boy sure sure follow me on this is an evangeline a mech yeah okay then a titans a mech because it's a person yep okay fine that's fair that's if if evas count then you gotta have all the flesh monsters weren't they called like um you know remember eureka seven yeah were they like ifos or ufo's wasn't ufo it was something like that they had those names um
Starting point is 03:27:31 yeah i'm not sure if the robots and robot jocks had like a designation no it might have just been jocks j o x perhaps not but there's some yeah there's some there's some good picks out there there's some good picks out there i like those oh god what the fuck was um five star stories five star stories has some of the most beautiful mech designs of all time um they're called something heads more tart mortar heads so like five star stories take i mean it's there's beautiful mecha designs oh that's pretty elaborate knights and gallant just fucking you know like anytime you see something that looks like it's full of mat like honor and majesty it's a five star stories mech but it's called a mortar head with two d's mat with two d's mortar heads five star stories man yeah they had
Starting point is 03:28:27 some good shit but dude they're like if you've never seen five star stories mecha designs they're just gorgeous they're very pretty they're glorious fucking pretty is not a word i you would usually expect to say about a mecha design yeah yeah yeah just google google five star stories mecha and take a look at some of these elaborate the high heels and everything yeah yeah yeah heads oh yeah they do got the high heels yeah put that yeah because because they're classy they're classy dames so we get classy and wear high heels sure i could i've gotten it already gunman gunman yeah man i hate that gunman yeah i've never been a fan of it yeah it's fine frank's that's it all right coming up coming out hey who wants to go first uh everything is continuing detroit is wrapping up
Starting point is 03:29:12 we finished it before we left all up no it has that been it's not done yet i believe we have one or two more we should have one or two more then they will finish this week get ready for nothing not a third one definitely not no third strike we got everything we wanted out of that one uh let's see me and matt continue to have fun in africa in uh reasonable five are you blessing the reins uh with or of or us i guess sure todo are you upgrading your guns yes i'm i'm not maybe not mad has more guns in the in the newer episodes okay i promise uh i'm just repeating things i don't understand uh tokyo morose is one session one session which is hilarious well you know technically anything can be one session if you really have the right attitude we don't so but we should yeah
Starting point is 03:30:06 but new technically you can finish any game in one session with one session to go new fucking features are being introduced yeah that's wild new i thought you were making a joke about like max's videos have you seen the way he uploads some of his playthroughs i have not he has a video on his channel that's bloodborn 40 hours oh wow and i remember he was he was uh talking on twitter of like yeah so i'm talking with people youtube they're not super sure how high the fucking limit goes wow remember when it was 10 minutes i sure do wow at that point you could i mean you could cut it in three parts max quick word of advice for anybody who's not max your channel can't support that nope no one don't do it hey he can he does it for a funsy he does it for the funsies the hit he takes
Starting point is 03:30:55 from that is fine but also people seeing an extended bloodborn thing when they show up for fighting games would be upset so i understand why he did it yeah totally makes sense right and also he gets to really fuck around with the youtube back end yeah oh yeah but the hit the hit comes from the love and that's understood but if you're a smaller channel you do that and you fucking die in the near future me and woolly are gonna start something new pretty sure what it is probably though i think i gotta have one last conversation with it about it now just to make sure yep logistics yeah basically and uh what's what's that's it out here on the super best friends play dot com what's what's coming out though like just because this week you
Starting point is 03:31:40 know there's a little game called dead cells you might have heard of it well i mean i've seen it we've been repping that for like six months i know baby yeah i'm out on consoles and to be perfectly honest like i've like my save is so far along on my on steam vine is not i'm fucking it's like darkness dungeon like i can't be asked to like i bought the the switch version i booted it up a couple times but every time i'm like fuck i have so many hours to get back to where i was that i might as well just like play another switch game just keep steaming it you know yeah it's it's for a quick fix when i'm in the mood but it's not for my progress uh yo matt but uh well no i guess i was gonna say that um in terms of upcoming lps to replace
Starting point is 03:32:22 what's current like i guess it should be expected that because i've been playing a lot you'll be the playing the next one i'll be playing and matt will be playing the next one yay woolly gets to fucking take his hands off and fucking fall asleep for a bit back to a comfortable three lps instead of five yeah we uh what's coming up on fucking we made mistakes with the way that we scheduled this what's coming up on the white uh i uh but speaking of tetris attack i have my retrospective of the puzzle league series so that includes tetris attack you know what and i'll depend on pokemon puzzle league that's coming out on friday is it called a retrospective is it not called a match respective it is not i'm disappointed because i already have a couple of things that
Starting point is 03:33:08 have matt in the title yeah and kind of no but not but that's the point though it's it's now i'm disappointed that that's not called a math bomb ass that's what i used before it's your thing that it's your thing that you don't have to share with nobody your name should be in every sentence like the angle that you were working of of working it in there was kind of like the whole thing it wasn't though oh wasn't it there wasn't intended no i thought it was it was sometimes it is but not all the time so tom uh thomas aka mom did a bang-up job editing that two two videos that was really good and that's kind of on friday he also had that tweet where he came up with a couple of other names oh yeah no some of those will be used in far the future because some of them are too
Starting point is 03:33:49 good the standout winner is a video series called don't mat me yeah yeah yeah with the yeah yeah yo wolves what's going on over bully versus you said you're down to three lps now which means there are two more going on over there what would those be naruto is getting um is getting a second gig well it's in the middle you know it is getting a second gig is fucking yeah yeah no no um the the naruto naruto is uh is is is coming back and it's coming back even harder than it came back harder so um yeah some fun stuff's coming to naruto okay fun stuff is coming to naruto is it naruto this is never something that people usually is it boring more i'm i'm fitting more naruto into my naruto is it ultimate you in a way that you you you're not going to get to meet universe what was
Starting point is 03:34:39 it i'm fitting fitting there's more naruto coming to the ultimate it was ultimate that and no i don't and um um um near automata continues and um yeah i i just need to fucking get around to the curbie ship but it's been it's been it's been a busy week so don't worry curbie can wait curbie curbie curbie is not going anywhere he's got time it's got time you know i can't think of very many things that are as ever green yeah and um you know as usual like post evo like inspire to like ever green green inspire to fucking play these goddamn things that i love called fighting games and now there's no time maybe figure out some content so we'll see how it goes there's no time for that yeah but you know that's that's it stay tuned woolly versus i feel like i'm gonna vomit on myself for that awful
Starting point is 03:35:30 joke it was super worth it uh hey i'm gonna stream some bullshit over at twitch.tv slash angriest pat i'm juggling gunjan sweep out of five uh dark souls all sorts of shit i'll stream something and then you'll be mad that i didn't stream more frame but i'll do it eventually eventually just like the somebody told me recently by the way well apparently we didn't finish minecraft because i thought we finished it no you know we we did but then someone added more x episodes yeah we finished it that that's what counts i don't know who added more episodes but someone did pat and oswald got in there personal and said i need more minecraft yeah and then brian posane was there and said i don't know anything about brian posane actually other
Starting point is 03:36:19 than that metal song all right we're done yeah like this really just talk really just kills it trying to try to try to find a way out here and that's a good game that was a good LP minecraft coming to tecan that would be more appropriate or paul blart that would be better so directed by

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