Castle Super Beast - SBFC 259: Anxiety GO UP

Episode Date: August 14, 2018

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Today's podcast is brought to you by the Predator Triton 700, a gaming laptop that offers impossible power on the go equipped with the 7th Gen Intel Core i7 processor and ultra-thin 18.9mm chassis. For the Predator Triton 700 today, go to Acer.com, click on store, and enter coupon code FRIENDCAST to check out to receive 10% off. Welcome to the 5th year of the podcast. Happy 5th anniversary, everybody. This would be 259?
Starting point is 00:01:22 I hate that years don't sync up properly with numbers. We used to think it was every 52, but then it just turned out to not be that, because every 52 is actually the end of that year, not the beginning. So you'd have to do it. Plus we skipped a couple numbers. So you'd have to do it. No, we actually haven't. But the viewers don't know, but you skipped numbers.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Oh, okay. Did we jump from 240 to 250 at some point? We've never missed a week. Ever. We have. But we don't miss the numbers. What? When did we miss a week?
Starting point is 00:01:55 Christmas. Usually. No, we did a Christmas cast. I don't know. We've done Christmas every year. But it's not on Christmas. No. This Christmas past, we just didn't do two podcasts.
Starting point is 00:02:06 I was right. I'm pretty sure. Yeah. No, that happened. Did we? That's why the numbers are all fucked up because we failed because of Jesus. Jesus stopped your favorite podcast. The podcast was on Christmas Day.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Okay. So we broke the, we broke the combo in November, you know, technically, because it's a federal holiday, we weren't even allowed to work that day. That's how it worked. I mean, it's supposed to come in. Quite frankly, that's a pretty decent four year combo for it to be broken for one week and then back into it. It's like a Musso combo or it gets up to like two, whatever.
Starting point is 00:02:39 The numbers don't even matter. You don't care. You just drop it and you're like, ah, well, quite frankly, it wasn't a drop. It was a reset. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:49 You're right. You're right. Right. So Canadian combo. Yeah. The Canadian reset. Is the Canadian reset. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:57 I don't know. So all that is, is just straight up you, you know, you let it drop and then they flip out and then you just resume the combo. Flip out. And that's how you get more damage and you reset the damage scaling guys. Yeah. We didn't miss a week. It was just a reset.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Yeah. Now your damage scaling is high again. The hybrid fighting game mechanic and MK4, which is just your combos stops now. What was it? Maximum damage. Maximum damage. We've never played MK4 on Fisticust, I don't think. It's fucking bad.
Starting point is 00:03:19 It's so. I got MK gold. I can't tell what I've played MK4 because I've played so much of it. It was the one I played the most because it was the one I owned on the N64. Oh, okay. Like, like of N64 cartridges when I was, remember that, those desperate years? No. Remember this big years of this?
Starting point is 00:03:34 They were always green. The years of the struggle. I don't remember that. You don't remember that. Dying. Gross. I'll be, I'll be real though. I do.
Starting point is 00:03:46 I do remember that, but it was by proxy because it was my buddy Steve always wanted to borrow my PlayStation. It was like, well, we'll swap consoles for a weekend. Yeah. And I'm like, no. Yeah. You haven't gotten a new game in 10 months. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:01 That, that those were, those were the desperate struggle years and every. Travis touched on it. I owned MK4 as well. Anything that remotely looked like a fighting game got fucking purchased and. That's why people ended up getting hybrid heaven and all sorts of weird shit. And there was a time when this weird guy was like, Tom and Jerry fighting games. There's this weird guy that was like floating around our house for a while and he brought over.
Starting point is 00:04:28 That's called a stranger and he brought over his copy of MK4 and like that just kind of stuck around for a man and focusing on the wrong part of the story. And then. So we didn't buy MK4. We just had it after that. Was it Ed Boone? Um, no, no, no. This dude.
Starting point is 00:04:49 There was a strange man hanging around our house for a time and gave me MK4 after a like after it long enough. He wasn't strange anymore. I suppose that's true. Yeah. He had MK4. You were lucky that MK4 was the only transaction. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:10 The only interaction rather. And it was like, but it was like, hey, this adult had had brought an MK4. That was cool. We're happy with that, I guess. But you know, maximum damage could be really awesome in real life where let's say you're eating too much and then just the big logo appears on this. Oh, yeah, yeah. You're not allowed anymore.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Run to the bathroom. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because that therefore your body wouldn't know. Yeah. Yeah. Have you guys never had maximum damage?
Starting point is 00:05:40 Games brought to you by not by the not by adults that quote, hang around the house for a while. There were never any adults that hung around my house for a while other than I don't know, my mom or dad or like, well, one of those hood person. No, I'm just kind of saying this was a hobo. One of those two figures you just listed was not around. So this brother from church would come hang around. Couldn't you just say your mom's boyfriend?
Starting point is 00:06:13 Because that's not what it was, though, because in this world of Christian, you don't, you don't, you don't, that doesn't work that way. That's so stupid. What are you talking about? It's tradition. That's the way. That's not the way things work. It's just like, yo, MK four, well, he was like, your mom stopped caring when she stopped
Starting point is 00:06:37 looking. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the problem was the problem was he was a little too cool for just being some church guy, right? Because you bring around MK four and that's pretty another stuff and it'd be like, you're not. That's okay.
Starting point is 00:06:50 I'll take this. And we played that. So is, so is, is that why we've never played MK four on the channel? Because you don't want to think about what it was distracting you from at the time. No. It's just along the lines of like here, kid, play this. I mean, yeah. But, but again, like there's no, you, there's no, what, what boyfriend that does not.
Starting point is 00:07:07 You can't. That's not a thing. No. It was just, it was just the MK four man. Yeah. MK four man just hung around. Yeah. You know, that was it.
Starting point is 00:07:16 That's fun. And, uh, this whole situation makes me feel very comfortable. I mean, quite frankly, not me mentioning MK forward launch into like this childhood thing. There's, do you, do you know me? Yeah. Do you know me by now? There's, is there not like, at least one or two days are inevitably linked.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Here's how busted this story is. Go for it. I got confused because I thought you work. This was, I got, I got confused on like, you like, but I thought it was a lady who hit herself in the bathroom and then the cops. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Oh God. And I'm like, but why would she have escaped from the mental hospital with a copy of that's what was in my mind. Okay. I'm like, no, no, that's stupid. That's clearly a different story. Okay. So here's, here's how you can piece the kind of timelines on that.
Starting point is 00:08:08 That was way later because, uh, my reaction at the time, if you recall, was me super not giving a fuck and getting way upset with my dumb family for being like, no, no, no, let's pray the situation until it works. Let's pray the, the, the pray, pray it away, pray the mental illness away type of thing and me being like, you need to get the fuck out of my house. Right. That was like college. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:33 I'm out of this shit. Oh, that was when you told me that story, that story was how old that story was a handful of one, maybe year old, maybe two. When you told me that story, I thought that story was like ancient history. No, no. That was me like fucking done, done, done. So that's why I was, I was being such a petulant ass about how insane the family was being with this crazy person that needed to go away and there to meet this person once.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Never, never. No, no, hold on. Wasn't I there to meet the person once and they're like, hi, I don't like, hi. And then that's it. And then I went home because it was playing games. And then like a week later, this event happened where she wouldn't don't think you guys ever met the person. Oh, I didn't even know you.
Starting point is 00:09:16 I remember some interaction. No, no, no, no. There's something. But, but, but yeah, that was way, way, way later after I was just done and tired. Oh man. There's so many fun times. The MK4 man was way before we were even in that house. We were in like the small ass, rinky fucking shit apartments.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. We were up there and like those were, again, such a small apartment that it's like, oh fuck. What? Like, like, there's not like, I'm telling you, like, dude, just hang around.
Starting point is 00:09:42 There was nothing else. What were you going to know? Like, I need someone to play MK4 with. I'll trick these kids into playing MK4. Yeah. But you know, that's honest. That's like, that's like an honest. And then, and then just this good old Christian hangouts hanging around, like he did, you
Starting point is 00:09:58 know, him and mom would just hang out. There's something at the wholesome Christian hangouts, Christian, Christian, Christian MK4 memes. No, just leave room for Jesus. There's no room in that small ass apartment, character too. No room in the smallest apartment for anything illicit, you know. What if you showed your mom fight of gods, the fighting game in Jesus, would it be like, that's not cool?
Starting point is 00:10:21 I've always questioned so many times. I'm sorry. It doesn't matter if you make a religious thing cool, it's still blasphemous because it's not. You are playing MK4, man. No, no, he's talking about like, well, what if it would, would the church be cool with like, cool angels being buffed and being heroes. But it gets the kids interested.
Starting point is 00:10:41 It's not. MK4 is just right with dark demonic sorcery. Oh, for sure. How'd that get passed? Oh, because this dude was just like, yeah, whatever, you didn't give a fuck. Well, I mean, he like, based on the fact that Quan Chi shoots a chattering green skeleton, he probably would have went for non Christian hangouts if he could have, but that wasn't going to happen.
Starting point is 00:11:03 So we got what we got and I got MK4 and I learned about maximum damage and those codes are great. And that's why I've played a whole lot of MK4 compared to any other title. And that's why I don't know if we've played it or not on the channel. I begged and pleaded my parents, like there's a guy down the street near the lake that's selling his N64 and a bunch of games, please, please, please. It's super cheap because N64 is like 250 when it came out and he was selling everything for a hundred.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Oh, that's a steal. It was like five games and it hurts like, OK, but we're going to walk you down there because we want you to go talk to some strange man who lives by the lake where you can easily be drowned. Literally down by the river. Like is there an N64 around where I'm drowning? Yeah. OK, well, that's worth the risk.
Starting point is 00:11:53 And then my parents walked me down. The guy was like, like coming to the basement and my parents are like, how about you bring the N64 up here and and he's like, well, you want to make sure it works and then how about you bring it up here? They're like, OK, no, we trust you that it works. He's like, oh, OK, and brings N64 in a box and he's like, yeah, you could come inside though. We're good.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Yeah. And this is still in the sheen. This is still like where we live. Yeah. It's just a couple of blocks south. I mean, the guy just really wanted to show you that it worked and he's probably just a lot. We had tons of cool shit.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Probably a huge week with some awesome posters around and stuff like a C3PO standee. Absolutely. He had some some boot like berserk fucking wall scrolls. No, he wouldn't wait. Wall scrolls maybe from from Chinatown from the upstairs store like 97. Oh, that's early. Yeah. You know, I got to say, well, this store, that is ridiculous, like every every repeated
Starting point is 00:12:50 insistence seems way more sketch as well as your interaction with MK4 for the first time. Oh, I played at a friend's house and he's like, look, I got a fighting game and I went, what the fuck? This game sucks. Boring. And I remember like it didn't. It didn't.
Starting point is 00:13:09 My friend Steve, the guy, the guy, the one guy I knew who had a fucking N64. OK. And I was like, yeah, I'm going to go home and play alpha. Yeah, you fucker. That fucking. Yeah, I'm I'm sorry. I'm the one who really loved Street Fighter. Oh, that that.
Starting point is 00:13:24 So that was that was my only could play alpha two on a Super Nintendo. Ah, God damn it. The best port and my fucking friend, man, he would go home and he'd have his PlayStation and he'd be like, yeah, he had his alpha and I'd just be like, no, man, 64 is good enough. We we got good games. Super Nintendo got alpha two. Super Nintendo got alpha two eventually. To be fair, the fact that Super Nintendo got alpha two is like mind blowing.
Starting point is 00:13:53 It's still amazing to me since Stop Sculling and Fighting. I forgot they said alpha three came out on the GBA and had everything double upper. I get it. I know, no, no, no, no, no, it was just three. But it had the upper had the upper content. And I'll tell you why. It was not double upper, it was upper. Double upper is the follow up to upper.
Starting point is 00:14:13 It wasn't actually called upper. It was called upper. I don't think so. Super. I own it. I'm telling you why. Hold on, hold on, hold on, because it had it had Mackey. It had none. No, no, no, no, no. It did. It did have that stuff.
Starting point is 00:14:24 But I don't think it was called upper on the box. It just had the upper arrow and it had the content. But for some reason, I don't think they called it upper. I think they did. Let's look it up. All right. It's the only way to solve it. I'm I'm pretty sure that alpha three is double upper was like,
Starting point is 00:14:39 oh, fuck, it's upper part, too. I remember being excited about that. But was it even called upper on any box? I I I but it had the arrow that signified the only thing I can ever think of is that the PSP version is is called double upper, like with text. Yeah, maybe. And it's got a W for to symbolize that for some reason.
Starting point is 00:15:00 Yeah, because W means twice. That's double V. But yeah, the fact that that version had everything like every character and the upper but it didn't have every character because it did not. It didn't. That's the thing. You see, double upper added more. Even right.
Starting point is 00:15:16 The upper had all the side from young eagle Mackey. Ingrid and the most I know. But but literally that's what it was. That's the difference and that and I'm talking about modes because yeah, I was way in on these fucking ports. Upper. Well, it just said right here when I was looking at this version. Well, like under the title of Street Fighter Zero Three Upper
Starting point is 00:15:40 in Japan in 2001, I just searched for the alpha three GBA box art. That's all I'm that's the only distinction. Three box art on the PS one and Dreamcast was fucking awesome. It's got that good art of Zangief going around. Yeah, yeah, it just it just said, yeah, OK, I'm going to bite you. So it was just upper. It was listed. It was just listed then as upper. Yeah. And when it doesn't give a shit about alpha's screaming at
Starting point is 00:16:05 to give a shit about alpha, I don't know weirdos. But it was yeah. So what happened was that I'm happening to was like they brought in Ingrid and they brought in all those extra modes and crazy modes. But it was absolutely. Yeah, that was the the port that blew my mind because not only is this a good port by I want to say it was crawfish. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Because it fucking they made a Street Fighter Alpha one port. Yeah, it was Street Fighter Alpha. What Street Fighter Alpha warriors dreams for the Game Boy Color. Yes, and it was fucking bad. No, it was good. It's for to be ported there. It was good. I mean, all right, it, you know, the sad story, but the quality,
Starting point is 00:16:47 the difference between that and what we got with double with upper. It's a Game Boy Color, man. I know, but it's shocking. But the fucking GBA version was like blue everything out of the water. The GBA is like a quantum leap over the game. But I think it's more than a generation. But like the recreations of the sprites and like it really struggled. But, you know, a really sad story behind this,
Starting point is 00:17:11 that Capcom is really impressed with their port work on an alpha one for the Game Boy Color and they're like make alpha three on the GBA. Now we want it out for launch of the GBA. But Capcom, for the reason, also put out revival for the GBA launch to. Yeah. They were not Crawlfish were not able to get it under that get it for that that milestone done. So it was delayed like a couple of months and Calcom did not like that.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Refused to pay them the royalties because they didn't get it under the time limit. They were forced to close a year later. That's fucked up. And they're like, this game sunk our company, but it was our best thing that we've ever done. That's fucked up because it was it was a really good. That would be I could understand Calcom being pissed if there were no Street Fighter game on the GBA launch.
Starting point is 00:17:57 But there was revival came out in that year. Turbo revival is like one of the best versions. That reminds me of the the fucking article or story. I forget where it came from. I was watching it yesterday of like the prequel to Platoon that was made by High Voltage that got fucking killed. Right. So I saw that video.
Starting point is 00:18:17 It was called the pre-platoon prequel killed by leaks. But I didn't watch that. I'll give you a really short version. Nintendo wanted a water gun based first person shooter for the Wii U and said, hey, High Voltage, you guys love the Wii. You want to make one? And they have a bunch of concept art and all that shit of like a Mega Man style of Splatoon and then some guy who worked at High Voltage
Starting point is 00:18:41 who was fucking pissed off at his salary or something just went to a Nintendo website and started leaking all sorts of crazy shit like two months into the project. Oh, God. And Nintendo goes, you shut that fucking shit down or you're done. And they couldn't figure out who the guy was. Oh, shit. And they refused to just fire somebody and say that it was that person. So then I was like, OK.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Wow, done with that shit and then took some of those ideas of a water gun shooter and then gave them to their own internal studio that they knew wouldn't leak and then eventually Splatoon showed up. And that's why we'll never get the conduit three. That's like that's like the best possible outcome because like that's the worst part of the story. If a water gun like thing replaced what Splatoon has become to be, like, I'm sorry, High Voltage.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Yeah, it was about it was about water guns shooting robots and the robots will go, ah, right. But it's still not the timeline where everyone can see the High Voltage intro with the kid playing on the thing that looks like a dream cast. You need to you need to tell me the game. I don't know if it's in any of them because it has to have because a Harvey Birdman and and the other fucking one that came out at the same time.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Yeah, that game that they had those games had the intro in them. And then the builds got fucking flagged and they pulled and were pulled out. So I don't think it has that. But fucking High Voltage Entertainment. Well, God, we're going so inside. There was a really cool intro back in the day that we talked about a couple times on the podcast over the years. I think in videos in videos, too.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Yeah, I mean, it's an old, old reference. But we used to work on I used to work on a bunch of High Voltage games and testing and one of them had a really cool animated intro of this kid popping in a disk and like is one of it was like a throwhouse moment. Right. And then and then it cuts to the screen and then the logo is there. And I remember being like, oh, that's cute. And then someone on the team flagged it because they're like, no, the fake console that the kids playing on doesn't look like a Nintendo console.
Starting point is 00:20:42 Slash, no depictions of a console should be used. He twisted a weird guideline in a way that it shouldn't have been used. It shouldn't look like any console. That's how you get to get past it. Because it looking like like an official one, like without the actual like approval was bad, but it also looking like something else competing was also just cut the camera around. So you don't actually see the console vaguely look because he blows it
Starting point is 00:21:06 and then he sticks it in, right? So you vaguely look like it's on a desk. Yeah, yeah. I feel like maybe he doesn't blow it. It's been so long, but I remember he sticks it in and then it goes, and it looked like vaguely like a Dreamcast. And that was reason enough for this dude to flag it because he was having a low bug count day, I feel like, or something. I don't know. There's a lot in there.
Starting point is 00:21:25 I don't know what was going on. A goofy shit that happens. And I was like, God damn it, man, that thing was cool and it was fine. You know, they pulled it out because they were like, we don't want like our game to get flagged for stupid shit. So they just dropped it to that single logo with the electricity running on it. But like, which looks like it's boring. But it's yeah, they had such a much funer logo.
Starting point is 00:21:45 You know, and I don't know if they ever actually got to use it on anything. I mean, they're they they go back to the like even thirty two bits, like 64 bit or a high voltage does. They've been around a while. Danger. What was their first game? I'm not sure what their first game, but the first notable games I think they made they made the Hunter Reckoning series. Like the co-op Diablo likes.
Starting point is 00:22:11 OK, I completely fucking forgot that shit existed. That's that's the the same guy, Liam Robertson, that made that Splatoon video. He made the that's it. Liam, yeah, he made the one about the grinder, which was amazing, which was the left for dead style, like Grindhouse first person shooter for the Wii, that then transmogrified into an overhead
Starting point is 00:22:36 like 3.5 like Diablo like co-op thing for PS3 and 360. And they canceled the Wii version of the first person shooter, then canceled everything. Motherfuckers is a big wrap. We're going visual and I'm adding this to the docket. High Voltage Software 2006. It's doing that someone actually has it. Oh, it's it's twenty one seconds long.
Starting point is 00:22:58 So you're ruining the audio podcast. We're going to watch. I'm going to put this in the docket as we watch the the thing I'm talking about. Oh, my God. There's this kid. He pulls out a high voltage disc. Yeah, he sticks it in the non-dreamcast. The stick looks like a fucking dream cast. And then the fucking that control and then he goes,
Starting point is 00:23:18 whoa, and then a big thrill house moment happens. And then it's high voltage. And I was like, oh, that's a fun logo, right? Wow. Yeah, that looks like a fucking dream cast. And like that thing, that thing got flagged. And I was like, no, I'm going to be. Yeah, again, I'm going to put this in the in the docket so you can check it out for audio listeners.
Starting point is 00:23:40 The video is just called high voltage software two thousand and six. But you can click the link down there to see it. I've never seen it. That's the fucking video. So that means it did get out somewhere. How are like a high voltage employee? Just put it up. There may be in a game that actually did release the head.
Starting point is 00:23:56 OK, you know, that that upon upon in retrospect, that looks way more like a dream cast than I was giving it credit. Dude, it's straight up a dream cast. But a guy and it got fucking flagged, you know, and I was like, damn it. But here's the thing. I know I know what would and wouldn't get through. That would not have been a problem. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:24:15 It would not have been a problem. Some guy was like, fuck the dream cast a little bit, a little bit. Yeah, I mean, 2006, it was dead. So who care? I mean, it got vetted, right? So like like the the the the team lead basically decided, yeah, that's fair. And then they went and then they put and then they. They approved it and then it went through.
Starting point is 00:24:34 And then the guys who looked at it went, yeah, we're pulling it out. So going up the chain, everyone agreed, but it was one of those like it would have been fine. It would have been fine. It's us because someone obviously spent money to get that made. I'm an animator at the studio or an outside source. So like that's lost money. This is lost money. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:24:51 And it was it was it was back then for this type of like actual animation going on, you know, it was like a little more than flash. It was like it was nice. Yeah, a little 3D TV and looking through his cartridges. And yeah, our discs, rather. Excuse me. I always that control is nothing like a Dreamcast control. It's like a it's an old art.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Yeah, it is. It's a Atari stick. Atari stick. Yeah. And you know what, man? Who knows? Or that could that kid could have went on to become a mascot in a video game. He couldn't have. He could have been splat Tim. He could have been Nestor. We never know. We never know.
Starting point is 00:25:24 He could be in Smash, but now he's not. High Voltage. I wish splat Tim. You know what, though, I got to say, after talking about that fucking thing for so long, I'm glad it exists, that I can actually prove it to show. I always assumed you're crazy. Yeah, everyone did. And I was and I was describing the thing for so long.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Come to almost every day of my life fully. But now it's actually there and it's on the Internet. And I don't know. I almost kind of feel not as bad. I'm like, oh, that's a weight off my chest. The world side. The deep secret knowledge of this intro. The world side. It's out there. I don't got to. I don't have to carry that weight anymore on your chest.
Starting point is 00:26:01 I don't have to carry that weight anymore. You know, it's all good. Any weight on your chest to get off about your week? Oh, snap. You see that segue? Damn, you jumped on it. You could stand on that with no third wheel and roll forward and then fall off a cliff. I always.
Starting point is 00:26:20 Whenever I see jackass, I remember when we went to Seattle last time and then we passed by in the cab. They're like a team of segue assholes. Yeah. Yeah. I was just like, just fucking just all the gyro shit just fucking fail and all you fucking fall over. So, yeah, I mean, what a segue. Well, no, I was just going to say, like, five years.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Good stuff. I think fuck that. This podcast sucks. You know, it's very smelly podcast. It is. And it does. But I didn't even realize that even in terms of just like the stream itself, we were like within the top five or six of like, yeah, the Twitch ones. And I was like, I saw that. What the fuck did that happen?
Starting point is 00:27:05 I was like, hey, congrats on being number six. Yeah, like the Washington Post podcast is like, we're coming for you. Well, we're right behind you guys in the top five. I'm like, we're fucking top five. When the fuck did that happen? And it's like the first two are Twitch channels from Twitch. So they don't really count. That's not fair. That's their own platform. That's nuts.
Starting point is 00:27:24 That's good. Yeah, this kind of snuck up on me also. Well, five years. I promised it would be terrible and it was. Yeah, we had a lot of M.K. Four talks, so that's a good start to this shit. Absolutely. In fact, why not go out on a high note and the whole end it right here? We're shutting it down.
Starting point is 00:27:43 It would be a perfect podcast if you were to do that. Take the podcast out back. Things can't get worse as long as you don't keep going. Um, anyway, uh, my week was more or less, uh, divided into, uh, I played more blaze, blue, cross tag, Batur. You said you were, but I didn't believe you would. I also didn't believe you. You did it. But does that that implies that you don't believe in me believing in Akihiko?
Starting point is 00:28:14 No, I just thought you'd you'd be like, oh, I got to see what Sagat's about. I did. OK, OK. That's what, yeah, yeah. And I investigated G and Sagat. I did have full trials of their stories. I saw the whole thing like, dude, isn't G weird. He's a fucking weirdo. He's such a weirdo.
Starting point is 00:28:31 And I'm going to swerve on this because yeah, G from Street Fighter Five, your character has nothing to say. Nothing. He has no substance. He has absolutely. Yeah, you see what I was talking about last week? Absolutely just nuts. He says the same fucking sentence just over and over. I thought I thought like it couldn't get less
Starting point is 00:28:51 sensical than Abigail. But Abigail's story somehow has it has a it has a crescendo and a denouement at the end where you reveal the twist and things happen in a logical way. Fucking G's just some crazy asshole on the street at the start of G story. He's an asshole on the street corner with a shitty YouTube channel. And at the end of his story, he's an asshole on the street corner with a shitty YouTube channel.
Starting point is 00:29:16 And Rashid is basically the Bum Fights kids going, yo, Azam, let's get a camera on this fucking guy. Let's do a let's do a crossover and blow his shit up. Colab. Yeah, that's straight up all it was up. Yo, G plug your shit. There's something about a zombie like Rashid, your channel sucks. You need to not do this, young master. And he's like, nah, we in there.
Starting point is 00:29:43 It's weird. It's every day, bro. I think Rashid's characterization as a fucking meme Lord is probably my favorite new character street fighter thing in a long time. Azam is literally telling him not to be a troll, like straight up. Like he's like producer. He says he says he's like, please don't be a troll on his videos. Young master. He's like, whoa, that's crazy.
Starting point is 00:30:07 I wouldn't have I'd never fuck as he closed like all his fucking chan tabs. This is the best. Nah, he's a weirdo. And Segot is just Segot Segot's learn how to kick somewhat harder. The story, the purpose of the story seems to be his tiger has a name and he now knows what the Satsui Nohado is. And he's like, it sucks. Yeah, this is a bit just a bit shit.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Let me let me jump in right there to say, like, man, the fucking character stories are some of the most worthless content. Like, but it's every every time I'm like, I'll try this one. I'm like, I have less fun now that I've experienced it. It's the fight back against zero content, besides like the story arc, you know. But the the arcade, like, I wish they just could have combined the like, you know, go through Street Fighter one, two, three, whatever. They just couldn't combine those endings and just make them more truncated.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Just put the yeah. I mean, you can turn it into what fighting games were over the years, which is just arcade mode gives you a two page. So awkward. And there's like one or two fights and they make no sense. Implementation ends up me making it feel like there's way less story content than just doing an eight man arcade mode run that gives you a text crawl at the end. I like the idea and I like I like the idea.
Starting point is 00:31:27 I like the simplicity of like, we're going to give you a limited number of fights that only matter to your character. Yeah, and the problem, of course, is the execution where like, if the stories were better, this would be fine. And if the art was not rushed, then guess this would be fun. Quite frankly, those are the two problems. It's just the execution of the idea is totally fine. It's just the quality of what the other thing is that they're doing is only like
Starting point is 00:31:49 two and they're like piss easy. Yeah, they should be maybe three or four. But again, they but then would you rather three or four extra shoehorned or would you rather like rather have eight and then one text crawl at the end that is just like, I'd rather. That's like a lot of text. I would rather it vary from character to character, according to what they would actually be doing like, I would prefer they just rolled it into a generic arcade
Starting point is 00:32:16 mode and just had old style character. Yeah, no, I'm OK with the new style. I just want the quality to be better in what the style, what it's doing. Both of these are valid, what it's not valid right now, because the arcade mode does exist and, you know, that's fine. I even like that mode. But like when you finish the the arcade mode in the various street further games, you get a piece of artwork.
Starting point is 00:32:39 OK, yeah, like that, that's added to a gallery because the art because it's an arcade mode that's not meant to like make any real sense story wise, you're just fighting a lineup. I really, really liked like we were just talking about Alpha Alpha Three's arcade mode is a bunch of fights and then a rival battle that has some back and forth and then Bison and you talk a little shit to Bison. And then you have a text crawl at the end. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:02 And like that's that's pretty much what these stories are. But the intention was to not like before. Well, I mean, they didn't put an arcade mode in everyone's like worst arcade mode. But like the intention was to try and do something that was not what all what fighting games have been doing for the last 20 years kind of thing. They tried to go elsewhere with it. I think the answer. I think there's a good answer here and the answer is weapon, Lord.
Starting point is 00:33:25 Matt, do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, arcade mode and story mode had completely different endings for the characters. So story mode would be more like what probably happened to the characters. And I think arcade mode were like fantastical. What if this character just beat everybody no matter what their lot in life? I think and you have different pages of text that would be covered across different modes that you can you can sort of use to piece together their full story, something like that.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Right. It's interesting. So you get a little bit of their story by playing one mode and you get a little bit of another side of the story by playing the other mode and they stand alone decently enough, but then you piece them all together. Adding that and then having the big like as wonky as it was, having a big cinematic story thing. I forgot what it's called, the but we whatever we did. Yeah, you know, we adding that.
Starting point is 00:34:19 And then you remember, then you're like, yeah, then you're but the one is like, then that's more shadows fall. That's more story than you know what to do with. Quite frankly, you know, you got your four hour story mode, you got your little extras here and there fighting games are a weird genre to implement story into the problem is that there's three different types of story modes and consistently, they all make no sense. Like in terms of yeah, yeah, like I'm trying to think of how M.K.
Starting point is 00:34:45 does it, which is the big dumb story mode with the cinemas. And then you get one arcade ending. And the arcade and things are crazy wildly incompatible. There's yeah, there's three. When you're making a story and a fighting game, you have to choose one of three priorities. You can choose the priority of the narrative, the priority of the character or the priority of who they fight, right?
Starting point is 00:35:06 And the canon of who they fight is the story mode in five right now where it just picks the enemies that you encounter. Prioritizing the character means you fight everybody on the roster as long as you're using this one character and prioritizing the narrative means you swap character control as you go through the story mode. You know, so like offering one of each is is is a lot. Like that's a cool thing that a game can do. And like five does offer all three versions of that.
Starting point is 00:35:32 But again, it's like the I think four did it completely fine. Like for me, like I know a lot of people, like especially game reviewers, completely boring, boring anime things were. But I was always like, this is what I expect from Street Fighter. It actually opening intro then. Sorry, opening intro, then you have that cool fight with your rival where they talk during the fight and then they have the ending. And a lot of them were not spectacular, but it's exactly what I expected.
Starting point is 00:35:59 Yeah, the those reviews that more or less were saying the Street Fighter four story mode reminds us why fighting game stories need to be updated. Yeah, right. And this was in a this is also like like before M.K. Nine came along and fucking blew it up. But that's true. But I remember there was absolutely people going this antiquated way
Starting point is 00:36:20 of telling your story in an arcade mode that makes no real sense is just not great. You're getting a bit piece at the end, but you don't know what the point of this gauntlet is or why or what. And you know, like that was fun. I mean, are you talking about the cut scenes that were like not in the game? No, no, I mean, the ones that were in the game, they I wish they had that not in the game stuff as game content, quite frankly. But yeah, it's you have to kind of pick which one works.
Starting point is 00:36:47 And ultimately, I think the if the story writing and quality is solid, a lot of this is forgiven. It's true. But I do think that the going through the random arcade list and beating up everybody like that, you can't really make that into like an actual part of the plot. The moment you the more the more serious you try to make that, the worse off your results are going to be. So just kind of treated as a wacky little thing.
Starting point is 00:37:10 But yeah, anyway, because otherwise you end up with Segot fucking staring at monster children. Yeah, going. Holding his chest for like seven minutes. Yeah, good, good. Yeah, boo. Blazor Cross Tag Battle has more going on than I initially thought. So more going on than nothing. More going on than nothing.
Starting point is 00:37:37 The there's some really. So what they did with that tag system is like, you know, like I was you know, I was describing Marvel Infinite and how its tag system is really smart and it's really fun. And yeah, it's similar to that, right? Where they by splitting it, you have you have your tag button and because you have your tag and your actual assist button, you get a lot of variety and as a whole, there's a feeling of like
Starting point is 00:38:01 you really are controlling two characters at the same time at moments. It's not like MVC one's crossover variable combination thing where you're literally rocking with both. So I think I want to say it's like the Soul Stone or something, whichever stone it is that controls both, but you can set up some really cool shit. And what ends up happening is there's a meter at the bottom that's like a small little diamond and it's almost like your S-link confidant meter where the more you use your partner and the different
Starting point is 00:38:30 ways that you use your partner, the more you become pal. It builds this up to like one of like from tier one to tier four. And when your first character dies, your second character gets their residence blaze, which is the big glowing thing. And what that is is Awakening Mode in Persona Farore. Got it. And that mode gets better and stronger based on how much of a camaraderie.
Starting point is 00:38:56 A camaraderie you've built up with your partner, who's now down. So if you get up to tier four, then you get down. They're like, no. And you get way more meter. You get way more right. And it's almost like the in tag and second tag to they touched on this a little bit where certain partnerships would have better synergy and they'd have better rage based on their partnership.
Starting point is 00:39:18 This is something where you build it up as you play, you know. So the more you're using the game's mechanics to fight as a team, the better rewards you get in your in your residence blaze. If you use your partner and everything starts to whiff or get blocked, then your teamwork should become lousy. It should. It should go down, but it doesn't. Damn it. And yeah, I kind of, you know, I learnt the ropes and I got used to Akihiko and Merkava and sort of like how the new Akihiko works.
Starting point is 00:39:51 And, you know, there's a lot that you can't do. They they they took a lot away from him because it almost like it would be too good if they kept it in there. And the actual persona character is like a lot of their persona buttons are not great. So you're using like not persona attacks. Yeah, it's very weird, very weird that most of them are not great. But getting used to it, I'm still able to do some good mix ups and confuse people. And like just doing that, I went out to a casual night,
Starting point is 00:40:16 played with some of the locals and then did some online matches. And I'm like, OK, I feel what's going on here. Even if that game turns out to be pretty good based on the way that the persona characters are implemented and they're my favorite of that of those four casts, I don't think I'll ever be able to like properly appreciate it because what you just said, that sucks. Well, even beyond that, it's all there's also like, you know, an aspect of the game where I'm like, yeah, I'm looking at a lot of other
Starting point is 00:40:43 characters from things I'm like, I don't really have any investment in these characters. Yeah, that's that's what holds me back. Yeah, I'm just I'm really in it for the characters I'm playing as and learning how to fight like lots of these sword girls, you know, that are like swinging from full screens. I'm like, all right, which one's that one again? That's the one that has the the one that slashes from full screen. And the other one is the one that teleports. OK, that's the one that's from.
Starting point is 00:41:11 No, no, no, none of them are from fate. No, that's Ruby Ruby. And yeah, a lot of folks are also saying, well, you should check out Yang. She's a punch girl. And you should have. And like, fuck, Yang Akihiko would be your I think didn't she come out like after we did the video? She did. She did.
Starting point is 00:41:29 And I tried her out and like, yeah, she certainly is a punch girl. But her move to move list is not my style. I don't like her move list. I don't like her punches. Her punches are cool, but like literally gameplay wise, it's just not what I'm looking for. So yeah, I mean, I'm going to stick with my team. But yeah, again, better game than than initially thought.
Starting point is 00:41:49 Better than Marvel Infinite, thus deserving of its Evo spot. Is it better than Marvel Infinite? It's too early to say. But I'm currently saying no, unless something changes. I think Marvel Infinite's a more fun game. There we go. Conclusive. Yeah. But we're, you know, we're early on in.
Starting point is 00:42:12 And I'm also still salty about throwing both of those games out in favor of Skull Girls, quite frankly. But hey, what are you going to do, right? The calendar is also a factor in that in that Evo discussion that has to weigh into things, right? No. I'm not certain what you mean, exactly. How long the game has been out, because that was the point of how that discussion turning out the way it did.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Oh, like we said, like I think we literally said last week, it's whatever they want. Yeah. And I'll tell you what's best for you. You don't like what you think you like. Oh, you know, my favorite part hasn't been out long enough. I like it. Matt, are you quoting or did you just make that statement up? It's slightly quoted from like blizzard. No, Vince McMahon.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Oh, really? There's also like another quote from OSW reviews, whether like Vince says, you don't like what you think you like. I know what you know. Vince said something like, yeah, yeah, no, Vince said it in the ring. Yeah, because like Blizzard had that quote for like a decade about, wow, says you want you think you want classic servers, but you don't. Only then to eventually say we're going to do classic servers
Starting point is 00:43:27 because, oh, you actually wanted those. Oh, people do know what they want in many cases. I also want to just back up. And I know you're just like throwing it. I know it's just a joke. Throw an infinite out of the bus. Yeah, I throw it. And then that's the bus we live on.
Starting point is 00:43:40 It makes we set up. Oh, I love that. Oh, man. You know, I'm going to use that. There's got marshmallows. We got a fire going. That's the bus we live under. Cozy on up. Cozy on up. Grab a blanket.
Starting point is 00:43:52 But I do bus was constructed around us. He just sat there. They were fully functioning and everything. They just they just abandoned it. They just left us here. Fuck, leave these guys alone. But I want K4, but it's important. It is important to not fall into the fallacy of the difference
Starting point is 00:44:13 of not making a distinguishing statement between what you like and what is better. Yeah, you know, like Marvel Infinite is fun, but it has like significant structural problems. So you can't. So to go like, oh, confirmed better is like people want to just simplify things like that. But no, it's the same way I was breaking down like X and X to the other side.
Starting point is 00:44:34 Which one do you like more is what I I still like Marvel and if more from a gameplay point of view, because it's fun. And like, I would probably if someone said, hey, you can only play one game today is going to be Marvel. Is it going to be like cross tag? I'd play Marvel just because those are characters I enjoy a lot more than pretty much everyone that's in cross tag. And I could see myself getting used to things in cross tag
Starting point is 00:44:59 and eventually like just normalizing it. But at the at the moment that you just put this, you turn the game on and then you just grab the stick and start moving around with the characters. I don't like cross tag. That's the thing that bothers me the most about it. And like, I don't see how that's a pretty base level issue. Yeah. And I and you have to kind of get around it by like, again, like the enjoying the rest of what's happening.
Starting point is 00:45:22 But as I'm just and that's a personal thing I'm bothered by that doesn't apply to everybody. It's just I very much don't like that type of movement. Imagine if ArcSys got to make a Marvel game. Oh, there's so it just never be allowed. No, but just visually they would be able to do cool things with Marvel characters that Marvel would be like, no, that's too cool. Don't do that.
Starting point is 00:45:42 Movement is such a it's such a hard thing to define when you're getting into the specifics of it. Oh, it makes such a crazy difference. And it's going to and I'll I'll lead that into the other thing I was playing this week. I restart like now that it's out of early access, I restarted my dead sales save. Hey, they like since the last time I played that,
Starting point is 00:46:03 which was before you got deep into it. Boy, if they kick that thing up a notch, it's quite a bit. It looks different. I don't know what they did, but like the shading looks better. Really? I haven't noticed any visual changes, but the the the layout and story and stuff. We all play dead cells because I played shillows of it. I played hours of dead cells early and now out of early access.
Starting point is 00:46:26 Dead cells is a perfect example of the like when it comes to the the side scrolling soul's likes. There's a bunch and, you know, I kind of think of like remember Salt and Sanctuary. I do. Right. So that was that was that was all right. That was that was, you know, I much prefer that. I very much don't care for it was all right. And the other one I remember trying was
Starting point is 00:46:50 yeah, Death's Gambit, which was like, you know, that's still still coming soon. And that too is in an all right place. But the reason why dead cells is the one that I keep going back to is because it feels so good. Movement and momentum are not only fast, but they're precise as fuck. There's there are so many like little tiny variables that you can fuck with, like inertia, momentum, how long? How many pre-jump frames do you have?
Starting point is 00:47:18 And dead cells gets all of them. And you have when you have those like there's areas that you occasionally encounter in your in your R&G dungeon that are like just like spike puzzles. You have to like do like little micro jumps to get through and stuff. And like that the fact that you can and like most of the time you can get it in like one or two tries means that it's like you have that much control over this character, you know, and like
Starting point is 00:47:43 adding a little bit more velocity to your jump as a power up is like a huge difference. And like we all know this now, but when you first played and you're like, you have a death room above. OK. Yeah. And it's pretty good. And it staggers, motherfuckers. And then you go home. Yeah. It encourages you to use your best abilities constantly, like the grenades and the turrets and stuff.
Starting point is 00:48:08 Like it's like, yeah, spam that shit if you can. Like what did I get? I got some I got like a fucking turret that just shoot. Oh, yeah, yeah, the turrets laid. Yeah, freezing ice, a grenade and a turret is a nice combo. Yeah, you can just back off and watch it happen. Yeah. You know, and then you get like new new weapons and like the animations on them, like the spear and stuff. It's like you have a very it's very. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Like those swings swing, bam. Like a lot of it just feels incredibly tight and precise. And that's the thing that gets lost in the mix sometimes, because, you know, you can make a platformer that's like fucking moving on on an eight by eight grid, you know, when you jump and it's like boop, boop, boop, boop, boop. Well, I mean, I want to pull out an example that Matt and I have used for a couple of years now and it points me. It paints me as somewhat of a nitpicky, crazy asshole.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Sonic 4. I know, right? Not even Sonic 4, Sonic Generations. Yeah, the good Sonic game, right? The one that everybody likes. Yeah. Is Matt had on 360 at his house at one point. And I just loaded it up just to see. And I think I had controls in my hands for four seconds, like on movement. And I hit down and jump at the same time and Sonic slowly rolled forward.
Starting point is 00:49:22 And I went, yeah, this game sucks. And that was that. Now, that's because back in the old games, if you did that, the the Spin Dash had a really high velocity coming out of the very first, like, trigger pole. Yeah. And so you could use it to move around faster. And in this one, it's like, no, they really want you to sit there. And so, but it's like, it's a character that is defined by really specific movement controls
Starting point is 00:49:42 that they then did in Sonic Mania. And it's a bunch of games that just fail that first test, that very first test of, I mean, how many games have we played on the on the channel, either in in a LP or stream or fucking one shot format in which we jump and go, oh, that's a bad jump. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And and and quite frankly, like to strip a game down to nothing but the jump in the run, you get the difference between like and plus and Meat Boy and the shit we don't talk about.
Starting point is 00:50:16 Because why would we talk because those games feel great and that's all they are is a good feeling movement system. You know, like it's so, so, so important. And it gets overlooked when you throw in, you know, awesome visuals and like make like tons of mechanics to where that that can kind of mask that stuff a bit. But it's also why I like, like I never I never like the dishwasher, for example, has it's it's all right. But there's some stilt to the jank, you know, there's a little bit of stilt there.
Starting point is 00:50:48 And I think they made sequels to it that were better. I don't remember. OK. And the vampire smile. I think it's a vampire. And that game I see, you know, a little bit of stilt to the jank. Um, I would even go as far as to say that, like, you know, it feels pretty good. I'm not sure if you ever played it, but it was a way forwards 2D blood rain. The animated. Oh, I heard I heard good things about that.
Starting point is 00:51:11 That that that like the the old 3D blood rain is like they're fine for like a PS2 Xbox game. Yeah. But they're still like floaty and weird or whatever. But that one is like when I played it because it was added to Xbox one backwards compatibility, I was like, whoa, yeah, this feels all right. Repetitive vanilla, we're figured it out, too, right? Yeah, they're very different, very different. It's a slower type of thing.
Starting point is 00:51:33 But with more Massa and like some of those fights in and some of the fights in like understanding the juggling and combo system in in Dragon's Crown, not Dragon's Crown in Odin's Fear, Odin's Fear. Yeah, you kind of like you. They play Livestrisle, by the way. I have not. But I know I know I know we've had this talk multiple times. I'm all over it. It's great.
Starting point is 00:51:54 But yeah, that that's they they kind of figured it out because Muramasa is one of those as well, you know, when you're playing it and like like absolutely your 2D like juggling like that. Yeah, man. Anyway, that's all it is to say is just that's a thing that like fucking dead cells, understanding that and having it feel that way right off the bat means I'm absolutely going to try again and come back and try to make it past that next boss, you know, that reminds me.
Starting point is 00:52:19 Well, have you ever touched Lords of the Fallen? Yes. OK. You feel that same thing happening there where you walk one step and you swing one sword and you're like, hmm, like it's it's it's fine. But it's not good. Not like the same experience that you would have with, say, Neo, which is good when you hit a button.
Starting point is 00:52:43 And you know what the action you like now that I'm going like this is one for just it's just for my the stories for anyone who was who was around when I talked about it. But it's the difference between the force unleashed we got and the force unleashed we didn't. What's the one we didn't the early, early builds of it that was that were that were in tests that I talked about. And they're better. Do you not remember me talking about how I just don't remember?
Starting point is 00:53:08 Yeah, the force unleashed early, early builds. But like when we were doing like we were testing on it, the combo system was a lot more open. It was a lot more loose. That's fine. But then what? Why? Why was there a change? Bugs and crazy shit with the combination of the havoc. And not the havoc. It was the euphoria
Starting point is 00:53:27 and the other one it had to combine with rage. No. It was euphoria, physics engine, and there was something else. Yeah, it was euphoria mixed. Yeah, basically, so it was I think it was have might have been havoc. I forgot. I forgot which but I think it was like the early engine that the 360 and PS3 version of Indiana Jones game that had crazy physics that they then canceled and then repurposed everything into Star Wars. So we had we had the game had to basically play nice with like physics
Starting point is 00:53:54 of like things dropping into proper ragdoll, but then also like linking to each other and smashing into walls and doing all that as you use the force. So and there'd be certain bills where they pulled that out to test and so on. So that amazing that that tightness is the difference between what it was and what it got, what it became. So I know you probably don't believe me, but we versions of force unleashed completely different.
Starting point is 00:54:18 Yeah, or like when I played them, I'm like, wow, these feel good to fight. Yeah, there's not that much swinging. And it's a completely different game and engine, too. Well, it's a different developer, Red Fly. And Red Fly were the ones that pitched that Darth Maul action game to Lucas Arts and the video that looks incredible. And they just were like, no, no, thanks. Yeah, we we don't rather I didn't.
Starting point is 00:54:41 That wasn't that was I remember seeing that in test, but I didn't actually touch it. But I remember looking at it being like, this looks like a completely different video game. Yeah, yeah. DMM, that's what it was called. Yes. Anyway, so game feel is vital. The game feel is beyond vital. Sorry, can I jump in there just on dead cell stuff? Go ahead and get it out. Yeah, yeah, good fucking game.
Starting point is 00:55:00 It's fucking great, man. This is the farthest I've gone on on the switch or when it was an early access. I was like, did you get past the concierge? The first boss. Yeah. No, not yet. OK, as far as like this is the farthest I've gotten and where I'm like, this run is going so good.
Starting point is 00:55:17 It's going to have so much health. Yeah. I'm so blessed. Yeah. Oh, my God. And yeah, just this boss, just so much health, so much health. And I have the the turrets. Yeah. And I'm throwing down fire on the ground. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I have God, what was the I have? I think of the balanced sword. OK.
Starting point is 00:55:37 So like the person with the third tier sword, you get naturally or whatever. And yeah, I just couldn't beat him on my first try. And I'm like, OK, I have some good tips for you. Please. So there are well, there's two things you can try to do. I mean, there's a way you can try to eventually when you do those speed run doors that are always locked forever, just try you can try to just gun for them and get some good stuff from them. OK.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Event. But this is depending on how what you've unlocked in your tries, right? But for the concierge in particular, it's if you can get like the wolf trap. OK, I do not even try to try to get a wolf trap and try to get the turret. Wolf trap, one OK, or should I get like two or three? Well, the wolf trap will throw out two, right? Sometimes. The second. No, it's like this is the time that you want them locked down. I assume it doesn't even matter.
Starting point is 00:56:26 Like the best version of it, you can get. OK. But the point is, is wolf trap combined with the gun turret is he's not moving and he's getting shot from across the screen. OK. Right. I'm not moving would be. And then you can just like pelting with arrows or whatever the fuck you want from a distance and then eventually he does the jump in the full screen stuff. Yeah. And just if you have something that can like freeze him and then just wolf trap again and just layman.
Starting point is 00:56:46 Yeah, I had fire and the fighting him lame is way was way more like efficient than like getting in there. So much help, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What do you guys feel about this? Because visually game play wise, the game's fast, vicious and it's gory. But do you ever feel weird about the game having such a sense of humor most of the time? I didn't. The main character is like a fucking asshole. He's a goofball. Yeah. Yeah. And the game is kind of meant to be like that feeling.
Starting point is 00:57:18 I I was weirded out at first, especially considering it's like, oh, damn, like there's a body of someone I know is kind of making jokes. Yeah. Well, except for one who can't make jokes anymore, you know. But it's it's bizarre where you find like your old friend and they're fucking dead. And the guy goes, huh, dead shrug, big shrug. Like, you know, because I never have a problem with it. But I'm always always like the game is called dead cells. You have like this, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:57:49 strider looking almost guy with no head and like a flame tone is at odds with its tone. Yeah. But that also but that also makes it different from the others that are just doing it seriously, right? Like you already look like a bad ass. Yeah, you've got the fucking glowing head in the scarf. You're killing shit. Nobody's going to look at you and go, oh, that's not a bad ass. So the fact that he's like, Brr thumbs up.
Starting point is 00:58:12 Yeah, he's like, why not? Fuck, give me that turkey leg. Yeah, I don't I don't mind it at all because it's like, sure, man. We we know he's cool. Like it's it's OK, you know, I just I just find it like a weird choice. But yeah, I don't I don't mind it. I'm always like that. I'm like, I wonder what like if they wrote this to be super like over the top edgy.
Starting point is 00:58:31 Like it might have been just as hilarious. You get your death scambit, your hyper light drifter or your, you know what I mean? Like we've we've done it. We've been there. We don't like make a parody of it. Like don't actually make it serious, serious. Make it over the top. It's such a weird tone.
Starting point is 00:58:45 That would have been hilarious. Fucking love. Yeah, the the the the silent bad ass is as a thing we've we've quite seen. It's also why people love enter the gungeon too, right? Like it's also funny in addition to being a great guy. It looks funny. I'm so fucking frustrated with gungeon. I keep getting to the end of the pilot story, but I can't beat the past on it.
Starting point is 00:59:06 And that's like one out of every 10 runs. I'll get to unlock that. And then I fucking fail like dead dead cells. Humor reminds me of Billy so much. It's his type of humor. It's his type of like things he'd laugh. Like I could see Billy playing dead cells and just laughing his ass off. Every time the guy goes, oh, oh, thumbs up.
Starting point is 00:59:30 And he's like, ah, like it's absolutely his style. Anyway, last thing was I went to an escape room that was Jurassic Park themed. Oh, yeah, they have robotic dinosaurs in there. Have literal animatronic dinosaur. Well, dude, so low, like you've signed the waiver. That's like, don't pull shit off the walls. Don't use any force. Don't smash the dinosaur.
Starting point is 00:59:50 You don't need to do anything but think to solve these problems. Right. And one of them was feel free to touch and pet the animatronics, but do not use any force or try to mount them. And I was like, oh, going to mount the shit out of them. Well, I just like that's the that's the thing you want to see on the bottom of a bullet point list of don't fuck with the animatronics. You know, don't mount them.
Starting point is 01:00:12 But yeah, it was legally distinct to Jurassic Park. Oh, it was like it was like tyrano industries. Oh, is that the prehistoric like forest? It was tyrano industries. And this is one of those things too. It's like a very different because I've been doing a bunch of escape rooms that are like in a mall or in like this area or that area in the middle of town. And then this is what you have to fucking drive out to like next to paintball fields
Starting point is 01:00:37 and oh fuck and a trampoline center north. No, it was just but it was off the highway. OK, because there's the paintball fields I'm thinking of or up north. No, no, no, no, not like the Bigfoot stuff and whatnot. Like those places are fucking out in the woods, woods, woods. You know, well, like the paintball place, I'm thinking of you have to drive two hours north to get to Bigfoot. I don't remember the name.
Starting point is 01:00:58 I was only there once because, yeah, I went there. Those were a good time. That's where I did my fucking songs. Even the fucking forest. Yeah, I did a solid snake roll and landed in a pit. It was cool. Cool. And I also fucking broke myself, but, you know, it was all right. So yeah, but it was cool, though. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:11 So did you beat Tyranus? We did. And so this place is, yeah, like they have a large sized like facility and they make use of that space in size. And also they're animatronics. Like they have like things there that, you know, hilarious. Yeah, they're fucking hilarious. That's that's the right word to use. But no, this was like, yeah, it was kind of a fun one, but really easy
Starting point is 01:01:33 because like the when you look at something and it goes a success rate of 20 percent, that's very high, right? That's considered a high rate. Yes. The hardest one we've ever done was a success rate of 5 percent. And that was extremely difficult. So your your medium range is in between there. And this was a 25 percent pass rate. OK, so, you know, not that challenging.
Starting point is 01:01:57 Yeah, very much so. But, you know, in terms of like, OK, get in there. Oh, something's wrong with this dinosaur that's like going. It's just fucking triceratops. And you got to got to fix it. So you got to deal with that and then like feed these other things. And then then get you're trying to get this DNA strand. And then, oh, the raptor that was in the cage got loose.
Starting point is 01:02:20 Oh, no, you know, and like DNA strand. You have to like go on a computer like in Jurassic Park where it's doing this stupid like file system that it has. And it's going to like five frames per second as you slowly drag. So it's it's not a computer as much as it is like a giant computer panel of like switches and knobs. And then things that have to be set to the right setting. And yeah, you know, anyway, you kind of you eventually figure out what you need to.
Starting point is 01:02:49 And then you're making your break for it. But oh, what's that rumbling? There might be a glass of water anywhere. Like there's a no, but there is a part of the ceiling that looks obviously like it's going to break away at some point. And eventually it does. And oh, no, you know. So big ol T Rex leans his head in and then you run past.
Starting point is 01:03:12 And then you fucking, you know, it's just it's definitely for kids. And it's like, again, legally distinct success rate JP. But look for the JP mark. Yeah. And it was it was it was done when it was fun. And then I was like, OK, sure. So these guys are doing easier escape rooms with a bigger budget. OK. And it feels like like well, looking at it, like I saw what the other things were.
Starting point is 01:03:37 And it took me a second to kind of like figure out based on the font and like name choices. But there's a thing that is like, what is it called? I think it's just called like mask doll or something. And it's like it's saw, but it's not saw. It's legally distinct. You're you're chained and saw. You're chained up in a thing.
Starting point is 01:03:56 Yeah, like pliers, whatever, you know, and make your way out workshop. Legally distinct Harry Potter. There's an Alice in Wonderland thing. Sally Cotter. What's what's Harry? The legally distinct Harry Potter call. It's just like wizard school. You know, anyway. I love that bootleg shit.
Starting point is 01:04:17 Yes, but no, like it's it's it's showing like a because they're making these things out there off the highway. I feel like they're they're creating. Well, it's more like they're creating like it's like international waters. And it's like a day activity, right? You go out to these centers and then do these huge immersive things. But yeah, it was all right in a dumb, dumb, fun way. I never I didn't think we'd get to the level
Starting point is 01:04:40 of like fucking animatronics in our in our escape rooms, though. That's the future is now brave new world. I want that. So combine that with the actors from the lot. The other one I did and now you got good shit. Like, I don't know if you remember, but like the one where I was like, there's guards that you have to avoid. Yeah, I remember you telling me sit like that is really fun as well.
Starting point is 01:04:58 Well, not an escape room. I've always really wanted to go and it's like every couple of years. I don't know the alien versus predator haunt labyrinth that you go through at Universal Studios, where it's like they got suits from the movies. Oh, cool. Or like the same company that that made them back then is transmogrified into this company. OK, then they have like face huggers just moving.
Starting point is 01:05:19 I'm like, oh, it looks so cool. I want to go Max went one time. This gets to do everything. Yeah, because he lives in the right place. There's always really fun moments, though, when you're in it, when you're in a group and like something pops up. So like we did when we did like a Harry Potter one and we like like got to this giant chess board
Starting point is 01:05:38 because that's what happens in the whatever. Exactly. And then everyone in the team is like, I don't know how to play chess. And I was like, I got it. It's OK. You know, and this is lost. And this time we were with a little V. Yeah. And like we got into the room and then like there's a bunch of fucking audio cables equipment on the table and I'm just like, James, here you fucking go.
Starting point is 01:06:02 And he's like, I'll be in the corner. Don't worry about do your thing. I got it. And he and he fucking had it. You know, because you're like, oh, audio shit. Yep. OK, here it's your home now. You live here and he fucking did. He did it. So you sure you're going to be OK with this, James? Yeah, no, it's done basically.
Starting point is 01:06:19 And if it's not like, what did you fucking like specialize your life in? Why would you know, you know, you dump all your points in this thing so that when you get to the escape room, funny, if you're like, here you go. And he's like, sure. And he starts when he's like, I actually have no idea what I'm doing. We need to go into an escape room, Matt, and it's just a bunch of silhouettes of Godzilla fins. And then everyone's got to look around and be like, what year matches what? I could do if you go through any door, but the desaturator, you get killed.
Starting point is 01:06:49 So that's in general, I could do easy. Yeah. And with you, it'd be like different sonic jump arcs. You'd have to label the game to the jump arc. Otherwise we all die. Good games all have the same jump arc. There you go. So the one that doesn't is the is the. Yeah. Yeah. OK.
Starting point is 01:07:07 Sonic has like really, really specific physics from two, three onwards. What up, Matt? Aside from dead cells, which I was playing the Switch version of and seems really solid. I think there's a couple of framerate traps, but it's portable dead cells. So yeah, in terms of games, I just played that. Now, there's another thing that I played that is incomprehensible to me. I think it's on the PS4 as well, but it came on the Xbox One. It's called Jean Rain.
Starting point is 01:07:36 Jeans isn't your jeans. Is that that fucking game that you posted that trailer of a little back? That amazing game? Yeah. So that was when I just looked at the trailer and I bought the game. It's a third person shooter made in the country. No longer exists in stand. Something Akiya. Something's I want to say maybe China, but I'm not even 100 percent sure.
Starting point is 01:08:01 And I didn't look it up. It's made of it's made somewhere east of Germany and west of Japan. Somewhere where the cars tell you to put it in H. Yeah. We put the game in age. It is a rain. OK, it is. It is a gears, a bad gears knock off. And well, what's the difference, though?
Starting point is 01:08:19 The story is pretty wild. The story, the difference in gameplay is there are no difference. It's just shooting. I can't find a difference yet, the amount I played. Star Exorcist is staying with me for a bit. And I said, please tell me what's happening in this plot. And we watched the first cut scene and they say 30 years ago, the gene rain began, but then they came down and said,
Starting point is 01:08:42 you must solve this. And then 30 years later. Don't acknowledge. Just keep going. The robot hearts. Then you're a soldier and then you're shooting a bunch of random aliens. Now you're an elderly Asian woman who's that who's talking to a guy with a red face and he's like, you have the same mechanical heart.
Starting point is 01:09:00 I do. But just English after English line. And then you're this old Asian lady that's just walking around and you have no shooting. You're just looking at things. And that's about as far as I got. It is the most incomprehensible. I was talking to James Small about this. I'm like, you know, it sucks nowadays.
Starting point is 01:09:18 And he's like, I know what you're going to say. And I'm like, you're either triple A or you're indie. Yep. There's very there's some there's some outliers. There's no triple B. The double A or triple B. Yeah, those in my mind. I feel like we can market the difference in our minds
Starting point is 01:09:37 between those two, but during the 360 and PS3, no shortage of C's and B's. Here's the other problem. Indie has become huge in the sense that a fucking 20 hour game can be called an indie game. Now, I would say that a big indie, you know, the ones those are those are double A's. So like Pillars of Eternity is a double A game. Transistor. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:02 So there's all those various things. Everything, everything that's super giant. We're looking at we're looking at Jean Reign. And that looks like a good old triple A. It is the most it looks like a 360 game, first of all. And it says Enhanced for Xbox One X. And I'm like, Enhanced for what? Right.
Starting point is 01:10:19 Bugs everywhere. Wow, that looks like years of war. So much everywhere. Like it's the the everything about the game runs poorly. There's like a fortnight fucking camera glitches where you just constantly go inside your character. You just get a little bit of all this stuff like that. And I'm just like, I'm happy that this exists.
Starting point is 01:10:39 Just so like, yeah. For our purposes, for our purposes, you know, maybe we'll take a look at it and more garbage. OK, I'm doing even a poor job explaining how bad and incomprehensible this compared to past cure. Maybe you watch worse. Wow. Wow. Wow. The something has happened to me and this is just
Starting point is 01:11:02 even like fully, I don't know if it applies to anyone else. But when I see a specific moment of that, you know, the first thing in Gears where you run up to the fucking cover in the front of the church or whatever it is, right? And it's that type of pillar cover when you're leaning behind and you're doing cover shooting. Yeah. The game not having the ability to grab that cover,
Starting point is 01:11:22 jump out of it in slow motion and aim in midair kind of makes me like. Oh, there's only one game that does that. I just want to be playing that one. And is that just me? Yeah. Damn. I really, really you and you internalized a specific quirk into a primary feature. I enjoyed it so much that I miss it everywhere that it's not.
Starting point is 01:11:49 The whole point of stop and pop was to slow the game. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Damn, create real firefight and the or and then you when the coast is clear, you just zip up to the next cover spot and fucking. Ah, you know, why Vanquish isn't a cover shooter. It has it has cover. If you're playing as a cover, but it's not a cover shooter.
Starting point is 01:12:10 I guess I'm you're playing as a cover shooter. The game should just shut down. I'm not the intended. And that's OK. Stop. So that's probably the reason why Vanquish didn't do very well. Yeah, I guess so, right? This thing's real special. Buy it if it's like a cent.
Starting point is 01:12:24 But buy it if it's a cent, please. Buy it if you think you can make money. There's there's there's a YouTube video on it. There's walk. There's walk and talk sections. Yeah, here it is. There's what I'm talking about, the section where you just walk and talk. OK. Yeah. So, yeah, I enjoyed that for like five minutes.
Starting point is 01:12:43 The the next part, the next arc of Terrace House came out and this is this is just as a reminder. This is the one that's taken place up in the woods near Nagano. And it's it's it's during the winter. And the first two parts of this arc of Terrace House has been like kind of slow, not much going on. But then this is the craziest. Now, I've watched three seasons of this.
Starting point is 01:13:10 This is the craziest arc ever where people start getting together. People kiss on first dates. What the fuck? What? What? I'm not going to say who, but someone kisses someone. That is some raunchy out of nowhere. And this is like maybe their second date. That's disgusting. You might as well have just eaten, ate her ass out.
Starting point is 01:13:32 Yeah. And the tax. Fucking lude. So holding hands. And what do you think happens during this kiss? Like, what do you think the actual reaction? Somebody shits their pants. The camera gets all up in their shit. So the girl that she she got kissed, she's just like.
Starting point is 01:13:51 Oh, no, it's Dio. Was it her first? No. OK. Because that's that's she's had dates before. That's huge. She's had relationships before. They go back to the house and they're like, hey, everyone, we're back from her day. Oh, they see that the fireplace is doesn't have.
Starting point is 01:14:08 Let's put the let's start the fireplace up. It's a little cold. And then the girl is like, yeah, let's do that. And she's putting like wood in. And then she's looking at the rest of the cast and she's looking like I'm being kidnapped. Please save me. But you can't say anything. So she's like.
Starting point is 01:14:24 This is social pressure. It's too much. And then she just kind of that's it. And that's the the weird part. Then she's like, oh, yeah, he kissed me. And they're like, what? That's that's a constant episode. That's a massacre right there. You got to ask us.
Starting point is 01:14:39 I was I was thrown for a loop, fell off the bed. That full on back in that culture, that culture is fucked. And that culture is going to disintegrate. It it it was it was crazy. And then like a horrible person left and we're so glad when they did because a new hotness came in a gravure model. Joy, they got real. They got real.
Starting point is 01:15:02 Or she's like, hi, guys, my name is this. And she meets the two guys that are in the house. She's like, oh, I'm going to go take a bath. See you. Oh, whatever. And the guys are like, and they go to the phones and then they show them on their phones and they're zooming in pictures of her like, yeah, and they're zooming in and out like on her chest. Oh, it was a crazy shit.
Starting point is 01:15:25 All these are so bland. They get released on Netflix eight episode chunks every three or four months. So I have to wait three or four months to see what happened. You can chunk it. I can chunk it for eight episodes. And this was the craziest like I've actually seen. Like even if it wasn't to ask us where it's like slow and plotting and like, why is the country like this?
Starting point is 01:15:46 It's still a lot of crazy shit just in general. Like, oh, you're going to go there. Oh, like random kisses. Oh, shit. OK. Now, this happened. This you left. You came back. You're a grimoire model. Like it was a really fun time. So it's like it's it's almost like you're describing Tokyo Mara session
Starting point is 01:16:03 sometimes in terms of just like the TMS is true to life. What is happening culturally here? Yeah, yeah, it's true. But in the downtime and I just came to my attention that it was never we never brought it to air in the downtime. You could always fill the the nonterrasse house with Naked and Afraid. You could because I don't think we touched. I don't think we brought it over.
Starting point is 01:16:27 We we watched upon it a little in the last session in TMS. We didn't go full block. We should. It's it's a good bit. So fucking if you want to at Evo like that, just like. So here's that you think you think I'll go to you're going to fucking Vegas town. We had to kill time. So we're in the in the room and we're watching TV. Well, but that's also the that's also the way you live.
Starting point is 01:16:52 Yeah, that's the style of of Matt and Liana is Na Na partying all the time, though, not really reality TV. What's going on, America? And fucking you got for us this time sitting around drinking awful vodka, watching Naked and Afraid and and fucking like like I'm like, what's the deal I've heard about this show? You're like, OK, what you got? What is this? And it's like, OK, so no, what you have to understand
Starting point is 01:17:17 is, yes, it's random people sitting in the jungle for 21 days trying to survive. Cool. What do they win? Fucking nothing. You get nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Oh, wait, your stats raise. Your numbers go up, right? They give you a fucking breakdown where your number literally go up. Are you in the military? Then they're going to start you off at a five.
Starting point is 01:17:37 Do you have any type of survival expertise? Then they'll they'll be like, OK, you're a six point one. No, seriously, where do they win? That's what they were fucking nothing. They win an increase. OK, a couple days in or whatever. The numbers go up is what they want. I don't understand. Shit gets rough cut to literal flashback of family, family, family of them filming women filming their kids and their husband that they ground left behind,
Starting point is 01:18:04 pushing their kids and going, oh, I got to do it for them. I got to do it. It's like, no, you're missing out on their first fucking dance recital right now to prove what the whole family is like, you don't have to do this. And they're like, no, I'm doing it, though, to prove I'm strong. Why do you have to jump that shark, Fonzie? We honed it down.
Starting point is 01:18:24 We said the people watch the show and go, I can do that. Then they go do that. Like that's that's how they get them. I can prove that I'm a tough guy or tough lady. And that's it. And so the big thing because because again, like I'd seen like naked dating. So I'm like, what what? How does this relate to the trilogy of naked and afraid and naked dating?
Starting point is 01:18:44 And where do you go from there? And like, it's always and then you end up for whatever reason, the episodes that we watched that that night were when they start off with a guy and a girl, the guy goes, like, man, quitting is not in my DNA. I'd rather die than quit. Five. Well, and then he goes, and then he goes, what did you pick? I picked the bow and arrow.
Starting point is 01:19:06 Yeah. I'm going to hunt some and then you just fucking cut to the guy going. A doctor comes over and says, this dude has fucking malaria. Your gang green is kicking in. Why did you drink shit? Why did you drink actual shit? Yeah. Maybe you shouldn't have drank shit and then spread shit in your wound.
Starting point is 01:19:33 And then fucking I bet it was clear. And like cut to a helicopter helicopter, airlifting, do it away. You're going to die if we don't fuck in every single episode. The guys were like with this big dick energy. Yeah, the bigger the buffer. The guy that big buff jacked like he's like after day two, he's like, I can't do this because you're a big stupid asshole and thousands of calories. And he's like, and he's like, no, girl, you don't go in the water.
Starting point is 01:20:01 The water's too rough. Yeah, we got to do this together. I'm going to watch out for you. I'm going to protect you like he's going to get like intestinal. He fucking ate some shit. And then he was like, oh, and then he couldn't walk anymore. And his feet swole up his foot. And then and then the girl is just like, you fucking idiot.
Starting point is 01:20:21 What did you do? And he's like, oh, one quits the show. The other person has to do it by themselves. It's incredibly rough. And most people like do it. But five five did it five for five episodes. We watched ended with girl alone doing the next 20 days because the first one the guy fucking ditched and then they're just like, well, I'll do 20 days alone then.
Starting point is 01:20:45 And it's just nothing happening as they sit in the jungle shaking as it rains for 20 days and occasionally they like stick their head out and then it cuts to like a tiger in the fucking like it's a different environment. It's just a b-roll, right? But they stick their head out of a pile of fucking bushes and it cuts to a tiger and be like, what's going on over there? And then like a bear is like, who's that? What's what's that?
Starting point is 01:21:09 Part of reality TV's like like journey into total fantasy is like amazing to me. They hand them a map and they go like, all right, you got to get to the waypoint. On the map, like take a right at the frog asshole. A left at the fucking light yet exactly. Right. Piranhas, little piranagra like it's clip art from like fucking 1996. And just you never know when they're going to splice a b-roll ferocious animal or or shot.
Starting point is 01:21:37 So do you remember that crowd that was like, I tried to do South Africa. Yeah. And like my guy that I was with quit and then I had to do like 12 more days and I had to quit because like there was no fucking water. Yeah, yeah. So then on this next episode, she's like, I'm coming back to do it again because I didn't get to complete it the first time. I sure hope my male partner doesn't quit.
Starting point is 01:21:59 He quits in four days and then she's like, fuck me. And you don't even pick something. He does it. And you even pick something useful like the pot or a fire maker. Why would you not pick a pot? You need it to boil the pot. You need the fire maker. If you pick a fucking bow and arrow or or like a knife or you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:22:18 Like some shit to be like, nah, I'm cool guy, though. I'm a fucking hunted up and you just die immediately. They're left with your shit and they can't do anything. All of those other tools can be substituted with a stick or a rock, which you can't find in those are around, right? Or you could use a stick and a rock to make approximates. But a pot means, oh God, you need at best. You need the right type of mud in your area that you can make fucking clay.
Starting point is 01:22:45 You need fucking sediments to firm it up. You need fucking proper fireplace with a kiln that you have to build to make one pot wasn't wasn't the only guy that you guys are talking about that. Like that you saw that did it was like just this huge fat dude. Did just like this nerd just sat there. So I can take it. He just went, I can fucking sit here. They had water.
Starting point is 01:23:10 So he's like, I'm fat. I'm just going to sit here as long as I can drink water. That's fine. I'll just live off my fat. And he fucking did it for like at least like two weeks. No help and no help at all laid in their hut. And then like in the last two days, the producers are like kicking him. And they're like, fucking get up and do something.
Starting point is 01:23:31 And he's like, fine. So we said, what if there was like a nerd version of like this, where you have to take people with absolutely no skill like me or yeah, I'm straight. I told them straight from like, what do you bring into the table? Wally, I brought my switch and I'm going to just sit here and I brought my just on the brightness up, max volume and separate those joy cons so I can fucking swing it and I'm going to just be here in the fucking plain way of the hood on I'm just sitting here using all the battery I can to fucking do my head
Starting point is 01:24:06 owes at the screen, which is propped up, volume up. That's me. I brought my switch and that is just like that's what I got as like man, quitting is not in my DNA. And he just gets like congenital heart failure in the plane. And the plane turns back around and the girl's like, oh, we have so we have there's a moment in every in the episodes where the two partners meet for the first time.
Starting point is 01:24:31 And so they walk through the forest, they strip off their clothes and then they shake hands and go, hey, nice to meet you. Let's survive. And we're just saying like on the way to the handshake, just like cut to the head like the head coming out and then it just falls. Helicopter, he's out. He's done. He's not.
Starting point is 01:24:49 Nope. Sorry. Got gang green just by standing there. Like just passes out and falls past them. Anime style. I don't know. I don't know if either of you would appreciate this because it's a completely different tone.
Starting point is 01:25:03 It's like pure dryness with no dialogue. But there's a YouTube channel that I'm a big fan of called Primitive Technology. Oh, yeah. I said I said to them. Yeah, man, it's so fucking cool. Yeah, it is. I think the guys Australian or New Zealand. Dude made a fucking like like tent with a moat.
Starting point is 01:25:22 Yeah, he's just some fucking nothing guy who goes into a forest near where he lives, I guess. Yeah, with shorts. Just makes shit. That's what he brings. He brings his shorts and his video camera and he builds himself a little life out there. It's amazing. And he shows off how you make all these fucking ancient tools with your hands.
Starting point is 01:25:39 He's got eight billion subs. Like like well, he deserves real. I mean, he just does it. You watch something like that and you're like, you're going to be fine. Yeah, like no matter no matter what happens, you know, you're you're well because it's like your dig. He chose you how to make a nice brick and then the mortar for it. So you're like, oh, I can just make anything in any situation.
Starting point is 01:25:59 If there's ground underneath me and I can shovel it up. Rocks are powerful. I can make a fucking brick and just make a nice house like it was nuts. Yeah. Also, when you're a vegan on this show, it's like quit. Oh, God, you're done. You're going to fucking forage for berries for 21 days or moral. Your moral standings are noble and appreciated, but they are naive in a
Starting point is 01:26:22 survival situation and see a guy just eating like an iguana and the other person is crying because they're so fucking hungry because there's nothing to eat but animals in New Zealand. We were doing a hike and the the the person who was like showing us the trail walks up to a bush and goes this right here, Bush, right? This is awesome. If you're if you're a hiker and you're lost and we need to survive, you can pick this leaf off right here and eat it.
Starting point is 01:26:51 Tastes kind of sweet. This will get you all the energy you need. You can just sit here at this bush and pick it. However, on the same bush is a different kind of leaf. You eat this dead in an hour instantly. And it's like, you just have to know. You just have to know the lay, the lay, the land and figure it out. Or I could eat that rabbit or you could eat the fucking rabbit.
Starting point is 01:27:12 Oh, turtle. Yeah, by, you know, like outrun this rock, fucker, like straight up. I'm looking at a bush and there's two leaves on it. And it's like, this is the life bush. This is death. Death bush. Fuck you. Survive.
Starting point is 01:27:26 Get ready. Go. And if you eat the right leaf, it'll say time extended. And if you don't, it'll say nothing. Decide the destiny. Yeah. Fuck you. So yeah, that's good.
Starting point is 01:27:39 Yeah, there you go. Naked and Afraid. That sounds like a mess. There's also Naked and Afraid XL, which is several tribes of people living nearby. And they're like, we're the, the, the, the whatever, like original name of the area that they're in tribe. And then see, I would, I would watch that based on one condition, whether or not they filmed it in a place with no law, because if they filmed it in a place
Starting point is 01:28:03 with no law, that'd be a really interesting show. Yeah, it's called Lord of the Flies. You can go watch it. I want it to be fucking real, bully. Also, you love the fact that there's like one episode, the girl is a lesbian cop. And then the guy that she teams with is like a preacher from. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I wonder what's going to happen.
Starting point is 01:28:30 The fucking the pair ups are all zing the most like high jing see in what exactly. So I'm just like, so imagine they reveal it's like this guy's a Klansman from the deep south. Who's his partner going to be? I wonder who? Question mark. To be fair, out of like a couple seasons, that's the only one where I'm like, OK, come on. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:52 And they got along really well. And he's like, wow, you opened up my eyes, lesbian cop. Yeah, that's the ideal, right? Is then they came out and they were bestie frenzies. They were. Yeah. And then there was that one crazy lady that said, I'm going to kill you to the partner. Right. And the producers are like, you've got to go, bitch.
Starting point is 01:29:10 Yeah, what would I do? And then you're the low tier God of this reality show. And then she's like being brought away. And then she's like back at her place in like the deep south. And she's like, whatever, I would have done it, but my partner was a pussy. Yeah, you were asked to leave because you threatened to someone's life. Yeah, because the pussies, man, I'll kill them. No, like I said, I just need that, especially those of you in the jury,
Starting point is 01:29:33 especially those of you, we just need the guy who's like dying and then about to get lifted onto the helicopter being like, I used to be clothed and brave, but now the guy that gets carried away in the helicopter by day five is the one that started off by saying, like, I'd rather die than quit. And when you see them get carried off, the next thing you see is their fucking stat sheet and then the number just goes, your survival rating drops. You're a fucking punk.
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Starting point is 01:35:16 video game part of YouTube, which is where you end up when you click on our videos. Right. I just clicked sub and just click on whatever pops up. But then then there's, then there's the fucking medical part of YouTube, which is a nightmare browsing too late at night. Then there's the primitive technology. So I recently fell down a deep, deep, deep YouTube rabbit hole, which is magicians opening puzzle boxes, which is what?
Starting point is 01:35:43 Oh yeah. No, it's a, the guy who I was watching was Chris Ramsey, but there's a hell of a lot of them, but it's, it's so, well, are you like escape rooms? I do. Are you aware that the, there is a puzzle box industry that is thriving? Yes. I'm more of what a puzzle box is, but like, why magicians? Well, because they're good at that kind of thing.
Starting point is 01:36:02 At bullshit and trickery. Cause if you just had like normal people opening puzzle boxes, that would be well, the particular person I was watching is a magician happens to be a magician and is also quite skilled. And fuck, I feel stupid watching these goddamn things. Puzzle boxes are cool. They're fucking hard. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:17 But like, they're not meant for the type of person that'll spike it to the ground after a number of tries. It's bullshit. I should be able to spike to, but regardless, that's like fascinating. For those asking a puzzle box is essentially exactly what it sounds like. It's a closed, um, like contraption that has mechanics that you have to figure out the hell raiser box. Yes.
Starting point is 01:36:39 It's a small device in which you push and pull and prod. There's rules that you learn as you go until you eventually get something. You got to something gives way. And then that gives you a clue as to what next to spin this while this key is in said position and it's all figuring it out. Yeah. Fucking fascinating to me. There was a cool one that, um, I, I, I got, uh, I got my girl, um, like a gift
Starting point is 01:37:02 that was like this kind of like a fun ring and it came in a puzzle box that you have to solve first. You're like, you do some work. So you do some work to, to, to figure that one out. Yeah. And it was like, you have to get to earn it. Oh, that's worrying. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:16 Well, here, no, I promise there's a gift in here. I promise. Solve it. Just, just get in there. Yeah. That'll keep her busy. It sure did. Song credibles to yesterday.
Starting point is 01:37:28 Uh, uh, in addition to Willie's thoughts, I don't really have much to add. I mirror pretty much everything that you said. Uh, I want you to talk more about puzzle boxes. Oh no, I'm done. Okay. You go look at these videos. I will. Boxes.
Starting point is 01:37:41 Let's have a fucking puzzle box segment on the podcast. I'm gonna do it. Just do it the whole time. We're doing the podcast. I'll be great for audio listeners. Yeah, I would. Oh man. He's putting the fee off.
Starting point is 01:37:50 No, slide that open. Yeah. I did it. But, uh, that sounds different in audio. Sure does. Slide it open. What part of a human being is slit open, Matt, but anything. Slide your butt open.
Starting point is 01:38:04 I guess you don't have as much imagination as I thought. I mean, sliding. Let's like a sliding door. Yeah. No, that's not the right word. Yeah, dude. You don't know. You got to grease the track.
Starting point is 01:38:13 Yeah. I don't like it and lock it. I don't like it. Lock it. Yeah, lock it. Not a fan. Um, yeah. Incredible suit, fun movie, good movie.
Starting point is 01:38:22 I think I might like a bit of the first, I'm not sure. It's been too long. Uh, Sam Jackson clearly yelled at them to get more parts because he's in the movie way more. Um, did you get a seizure warning when you went? Nope. Cause I did. They added one.
Starting point is 01:38:40 They sure did. Oh, there is a long, so it stays on screen for a minute plus. So finally, white text on a black screen says if you or anyone you know are susceptible to epileptic seizures, you may not be able to develop. How about you just change it and then we get to the middle of the movie and I'm like, cause it's, it's a guy who flashes the screen with like, he said, alternating black and white, like zigzags. It's crazy, right?
Starting point is 01:39:08 But it's always in the background and it's always like, oh, there's the, the person sees a screen over there and then the screen is really bad, right? And then in the middle of the movie, yeah, I could not believe it was as you described. But just every surface in a room is just pulsing, strobing, alternate, black and white. So why do they think this is okay? I don't know if you remember when I was describing it as like, like unapologetically outrageous, egregious in your face. It made it made me and I saw it with my health huggins.
Starting point is 01:39:43 It made it's like you could, you get you, you reel back in your fucking seat as a person who doesn't have epilepsy because it is eye searing. And it makes you think this is someone who hates children with epilepsy. Oh yeah. And like the scene is supposed to be that Elastigirl is extraordinarily disoriented by the room. Yeah, sure. Obviously.
Starting point is 01:40:06 But so am I. Oh man. It's way bad. So over the top. I, it's like, I still can't believe how aggressive they were with it. It's like a fist coming out of the screen to punch disabled children with a noise. And it just I like, oh my God, it's nuts. Incredibles to fuck good movie.
Starting point is 01:40:26 Yeah. Uh, let's see. Uh, also played more SF5. G is the best G is I love him. He's the he's the best world president ever that says nothing. Did you got, did you get story costume 15? 15, which is that the gold one? No, it's the good one.
Starting point is 01:40:46 You need to be more specific. It's the only one that matters. The mask, the mask. No, all the story costumes have the mask, but color 15 is the Q colors. Okay. No, I thought because I have colors one through whatever and then EX05, whatever the fuck that is, go get, go get 50 or you just get Max's mod that just turns it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:08 Well, I, I, I use color eight, which is the red one, which is the one that I always had to you can do that too. That's true. But if you want, if you want default Q, they don't, I want. My red Q. All right. Well, they put him in there as the last color you get for him. Well, that's Canon right there.
Starting point is 01:41:24 So obviously, uh, and should just put Q in the case at this point, this is better. But now it's like, I will say it. Q got converted after like, you know what I mean? Like, I feel like the story is going to be like, he used to be the president of the earth. He used to be a crazy hobo. And then like they, they ripped the power out of him or they mind controlled him or something happened and then they turned him into.
Starting point is 01:41:49 Where he's stronger, but dumber. They turned him into Rorschach. Yeah. Beans. It's great. This is great. Uh, and the other thing I wasted a bunch of my time. Well, it's not for Monster Hunter, but I mean, nothing new to say about that.
Starting point is 01:42:02 The PC port has a few issues that hopefully Capcom is working on resolving. China's working on resolving. Oh yeah. Is that in the news? Cause that thing's crazy. I don't even fully understand. Okay. So here's the story about Monster Hunter.
Starting point is 01:42:13 We'll get into it. Okay. You, you want to retroactively put it in there. Uh, and then the other thing is that I went dipped back into Warframe and, uh, started encountering mechanics that I, you know, when a game has mechanics, you're like, you know, in your head that they exist, but since you've never used them, you, they don't enter into your brain. Warframe has, when they put out that planes of idle on expansion with the big
Starting point is 01:42:37 open world thing, they also added in spear fishing and mining, like a real goddamn MMO and you kind of have to do that to upgrade some of some very specific pieces of gear and they're pretty good. Like most fishing in an MMO is straight trash because fishing is bad. Everyone loves fishing. Yeah, I know, but this is spear fishing. So it's more like, uh, like the RE four, but with smaller little guys and the mining doesn't feel like shit.
Starting point is 01:43:15 So thank God, but I got into this point where it's like, okay, the night you want to do the sacrifice quest, right? Yeah, I want to do a sacrifice quest. Well, the default weapon that they gave you, that thing is so awful that it will ruin your experience with that quest because you're forced to use it a lot. Oh, that fucking sucks. So you go out there, well, it's because the weapon that that was given. It's, it's weird thing the way Warframe does progression.
Starting point is 01:43:45 That weapon came out like two and a half years ago, right? So they would assume that you would have gotten a new one in that time, right? Okay. Well, not if you started playing three months ago, necessarily. So you go out there and you level up your amp, but how do you do that? You got to get the rep. Then you got to get the fish oil to make the goddamn brace. Literally, yes, that's why I have to, I have to farm the fish because I
Starting point is 01:44:13 need seven mercury livers and 35 fish oils to make your weapon, to make my brace. No, to make my brace because you need the brace, the prism and the lens. And then you combine all three of those to make your new amp. And it is a weird fucking road. This game has one big progression issue. And that is everything they've ever put into the game assumes that you've been playing the game the whole time. Nothing is ever put into the game and then feels like it ever gets retrofitted
Starting point is 01:44:42 for what you would call, I guess, the new player experience where you roll through and you hit things as they come, right? Yeah. What you're describing sounds like what I think MMOs are. The, the kick over to planes of Ilon and the, I thought you were going to say Arithel, no, the upcoming Venus area, Fortuna, like is morphing warframe from a pure loot game into a pseudo MMO. Like it is.
Starting point is 01:45:16 So that that is what they saw, right? But it's so weird because the parts are so segmented because you can go play a part of the game that has no MMO elements at all. It's just like a gears horde mode. Yeah. Just shoot shit and then you move over to this area and then this area only the game functions as an MMO because shooting shit and running on walls is cool. It is.
Starting point is 01:45:38 It's really cool. But, you know, it's cooler bullet jumping like a, like a, like a missile. Yeah. But fish oil is a lot less cool. Listen, I'm just saying, I understand. I need the fish oil. I need the mercury livers. I need the pyrochlorotic or pyro, pyrochlorotic, pyrochlorotic alloy.
Starting point is 01:45:57 I need to get those tears, tear as a rights. I need to get those devastures. And then the pieces of the fucking thing are unintelligible gibberish. They're just like the capricious embrace. I mean, you know, after, after, after, after playing monster hunter, like I definitely do get a bit more of that, like, um, large scale crafting, I guess I'll call it because like there's crafting where it's like every item has its specific list and then there's like, and then there's the crafting where it's
Starting point is 01:46:27 like no multiple items have like the same, the same multiple uses exactly. And I get that. I get that appeal too. But, um, the thing that boy, does it seem like it's less fun to do that part of it? Depends. Like luckily the fishing mini game in this, it's fun. Like it's legitimately enjoyable. So good.
Starting point is 01:46:47 Farming the item called a set of Swissp, which is you loading out onto the map and just running around and just grabbing these items that spawn near water. That sucks, but you only need 30, right? Stuff like that. But the reason why it seems to work in Warframe is because every year, year and a half, they add some new component to the game's experience. So at the very beginning, you have your frames and then you have your prime frames and you have your weapons and you have your prime weapons and you have
Starting point is 01:47:15 your mods, then you have your amp, then you have your archwing that. And so like progression, whenever you are about to hit the top of progression, they add a new type of progression to the game. So you just continue your path to become like a fucking demigod. It's pretty good. I like it. But if you don't like that climb specifically, numerically or power wise, shrug, like that's, you know, that's all there is to it.
Starting point is 01:47:45 I'll just, I'll always, I'll always be more drawn to the climb that's based on your reflexes approving. Well, it's both, you know, like that's, that's the point. Yeah. Cause I'm like, I'm thinking about how, as you described that, I'm like, yeah, I was, I was grinding somewhat to doing the combo challenges for each character that I missed out on this weekend and then trying to get some bread and butters down with G and with.
Starting point is 01:48:12 So got Blanca and so got and, and, uh, and then in tag as well with G's bread and butter, the motion of down punch and then a SRK is difficult for me. Um, not accidentally getting your super out. That's the problem. Yeah. So go check out, uh, if you want some fun stuff, go check out Blanca's 10th trial, uh, where you've got to use lightning beast and basically fuck. No.
Starting point is 01:48:37 Yeah. So you've got to do, you've got to do the setup and launch the dude up and then up ball and then use the lightning beast to control in the eight directions. Uh, and then like go like zap, zap, zap back down to the ground and then catch them on a super and like, I got it, but it just like, okay, this is going to take some fucking time. Now, the process of getting that down is grinding to me, but yeah, but it's like the improvement instead of the number going up for the same action is
Starting point is 01:49:04 like you're getting a little bit more precise with your, your personal improvement and you look at, you look at, uh, let's take finding game is the pure skill example with no numerical power upgrade. And then you have Warframe and Monster Hunter as various types of the other. Your personal movement skill, like in Monster Hunter, it's your ability to read the monster is the number one skill, not even your own combat. It's read it in Warframe. It's your movement is how fast you go to begin the, the movement of the
Starting point is 01:49:32 beginning character and the movement of the 200 hour person plus is totally different. You're, you're, you are a bullet at a certain point, but on top of that is, well, I know the monster Monster Hunter, but I also hit it twice as hard as I used to, or I'm hitting it with the right element or whatever in Warframe. It's, I like this gun or I built around this gun or whatever, like a game like Warframe game, like Borderlands, a game like the loot games are built around the numerical progression slash variation of this gun, that sword, et cetera.
Starting point is 01:50:07 Right. And there's a point where it is assumed that you've hit the, let's say 90th percentile of movement or aiming or whatever skill. And once you've hit that, then it's just, just get tougher, just do harder shit and just get tougher. And how much tougher can you get in a game like Warframe? Infinity, like you, the, the, the experience, they're running an event right now that has a fascinating knock-on effect.
Starting point is 01:50:37 You remember when I told you, I started playing in which you would go into a room and I'd be, I don't know, 10 hours in, I'd be like, yeah, I'm drowning. I shot the guy. And then a fucking God beast person would show up into my room and just like snap their fingers and everyone would die. And I would go, well, what the fuck is that? There's an event going on right now that's specifically designed to create that situation where there are roaming bosses, uh, rival battles, essentially on
Starting point is 01:51:04 the map in hidden places that specifically target players under certain like, uh, hour play time. And when they run into those, when I run into those people, they usually kick their ass, but once that player is discovered, that node or map is now like broadcast out to the entire player base and those things drop rare as shit stuff. So the next time you go in, the squad that loads in with you is filled with three freak beasts that just saved your shit and kicked the fuck out of this thing. And the game specifically targets the weakest player.
Starting point is 01:51:42 Yes, specifically. So it's like the new person gets bodied. Yeah. Then the vets show up to help that body person and the body, the new person goes, oh, yeah, right, right, right. It's a, it's great. That's cool. It's really cool.
Starting point is 01:51:59 I think a perfect fusion would be somewhere in between, right? Where, um, imagine, let's say it's like a mecha game or something like that, right? And you're starting out with a very versatile, easy to use Ryu robot and then you have a rounder, right? And then eventually what you spend your time grinding unlocks a more advanced thing that is like way, way faster and more amazing and can do a lot more control wise, but the con, but the cockpit looks like a fucking piano.
Starting point is 01:52:32 Yeah. You're right. Like, like, something, like something where it's like, you know, like you match that level of like this reward allows you to do more, but also requires you to do more as opposed to the same sword you've been swinging now has a 99 on it. Well, the way that that plays out in Warframe is that you, the way power scaling in any game of this type works is like, well, how do you want the game
Starting point is 01:52:58 to feel? And there's one decision that you make, are your power bonuses additive or multiplicative, right? If your power bonus is additive, there's a really specific point that your part people can reach, right? If your power bonus is multiplicative and people are able to create synergies with those things, they can essentially build characters towards really specific goals and just blow everything out of the water with that goal.
Starting point is 01:53:27 You can like, so the abilities are one, two, three, four, you can build a banshee so that therefore regenerates its own energy and never runs out ever. So you just spam this massive sound earthquake all day. And that's all you do. And nothing can touch you. Right. Right. If that's how you want it to build it.
Starting point is 01:53:45 If you wanted to build your Excalibur towards its four, then you get a energy play that you get to use all the time, et cetera. And there's a lot of, how do I put this? It's the difference between the behind the scenes mastery and the on the ground mastery, whereas you, you pretty much only want the on the ground mastery and which this type of genre thrives on having both because the first one, there isn't enough to keep people back unless it's multiplayer, unless it's a competitive PvP for cooperative, you need to have an escalation because
Starting point is 01:54:24 otherwise you're just going to do it and then it'll be done and then it'll be done and then no one cares. Yeah, you know, a hundred percent. Um, and that's a, yeah, that's a genre thing too. But also as a result, the PvP in, in, in more frame is fucking awful. It is so bad. Someone sent me a cool video though. They were wrong.
Starting point is 01:54:43 It was a video of some cool people doing some cool shit while running on a stage that had no ground and fucking just fighting each other off a wall with swords. And I was like, well, that's always going to be dope. So yeah, but I assume that video was staged. Hmm. If the game wasn't intended for it, so be it, you know, um, let's get into the news, see what the fuck's going on in China.
Starting point is 01:55:08 I, I, okay. So here's the deal with China and Monster Hunter. All right. So there were three, there were, uh, three versions of this story, right? The first one. Okay. Here's what happened. Monster Hunter world sold like a million copies in China within the past week.
Starting point is 01:55:25 That's crazy. Now the vast majority of which were on 10 cents digital distribution platform. Right. Number one is it got taken off. Monster Hunter world is gone. It is now banned in China. Yeah. We game is the steam equivalent for China.
Starting point is 01:55:38 It's the, it's 10 cents own platform. So he listed it, a couple of things happened. One, people thought that is it because it's a Japanese game and Chinese government doesn't want it to upstage their own games. Like, no, that's not the case. That is not the case at all. 10 cents invested in non-Japanese. Yeah, that is not, that is an absurd fallacy.
Starting point is 01:55:55 And that is not what's happening. The second one is there's an item in the game called a mega demon drug and there are skeletons and bones in certain parts of the game doesn't like that. Now, now China with the ghosts and the demons and the skeletons, they don't like that shit that is not okay or gay people actually. Also, that is not okay to put in your game ever. You may not have a gay skeleton demon with drugs, with drugs in your game. Most games should have at least one.
Starting point is 01:56:33 That is some subversive anti-government shit. So people thought, oh, they fucked up and uploaded. But what about my gay demon skeleton OC with its huge blunts? Well, they're not going to get past the Great Firewall. When it has multiple blunts. Multiple. So people thought, oh, they must have uploaded the uncensored version to. And not the China version and not the China version and it got pulled.
Starting point is 01:56:57 No, not that either. The reason why this game has been pulled is because the game is Japanese and the Monster Hunter servers for China are located in Japan. As the servers are located in Japan, the Chinese government does not have the ability to monitor all data going off of that server because all games that operate in China must be owned or sub licensed by a Chinese company and operate all their servers in China so that they make sure no funny business going on. So anything online is just not going to work.
Starting point is 01:57:35 Anything online has to be China. Yeah. OK. As the servers are in Japan, and that means that the Chinese government's ability to do its funny business with those servers is not applicable. The game is now banned forever. The first version of the story I read was it's gone and we don't know why. No, it's OK. They cannot monitor all outgoing server activity, which is basically regional
Starting point is 01:58:02 control of the local government says no, no, no. Unfortunate for Chinese Monster Hunters, though, I believe the game is still available on Steam in China because Steam is seen as importing the game. Really? Yeah. Because it's not a Chinese company. Why not just? I mean, well, whatever. There's a million.
Starting point is 01:58:29 Why doesn't the Chinese government just? There's a million. Yeah, there's a million ways to end that sentence. Why not? I'm importing the game because of the gay skeleton kings. But you can still play it. I would say you could still do that offline and not have any like problems in theory, right?
Starting point is 01:58:46 Like you could. No, it's banned. Yeah, I'm just saying like you could. No, it's no. It's been no, it's banned and it's immoral for you to do so. It would be a solution that that would listen. The government could if they wanted to. Canadians don't give a shit about software laws.
Starting point is 01:59:05 Yes. No, we don't. Applying that particular lax attitude to other parts of the world with stricter penalties for such things is not entirely appropriate. Because then we can put all the gay demon skeletons in anything we want. Yeah. Which I will. Yeah, it's easy. What's your gay demon skeleton?
Starting point is 01:59:25 O.C. called? Bone master. That's not bad. Mine is Skull Zone. The rib Lord. That's not even bad. You did it. Sir Skull Zone.
Starting point is 01:59:42 So that's the deal. Oh, man, this sucks for China. Chinese players. Yeah, this super sucks for Capcom. Yeah, as they just lost millions and millions of possible deals in a situation which I seriously doubt they would ever play ball. Sucks on this. They should have just still it and made a Honster Munter on the plus side.
Starting point is 02:00:03 Honster, no way. That has ghosts, dude. On the plus side, 10 cent is actually refunding people and giving them a five dollar voucher. So at the very least, they're not ripped off, but I mean, sucks. What I was the most surprising part of the of the story to me was when they started listing what what shares 10 cent owns in other companies. A lot.
Starting point is 02:00:25 Holy fuck. Yeah, are their fingers in all the pies? They're like they're like pie. You just need one little finger and one little pie. But if you have a million little fingers, then you fucking set for life. They they own like I think it was like five percent of Blizzard, like 40 percent of Riot. Um, it was like 45 percent of another huge company.
Starting point is 02:00:49 It's this weird situation. It was video games are big in China. Why? It's a lot of Chinese people and everybody likes video games, right? Problem is there's a bit of a learning curve to releasing your game. Also, yeah, for you. Well, for years, you just couldn't, right? I remember the areas where it's like every region, but not China.
Starting point is 02:01:08 And after and before China was Russia and after China, it's going to be Brazil. I think Australia just lacks up their laws to apparently no, no, no. It was Germany. They actually lacks up their swastika laws on the imagery, which I remember because back when we were, I was testing Call of Duty three and we had to do the swastika scrub. I still don't understand how the Wolfenstein games even released, but they did. At least one of them did.
Starting point is 02:01:36 Everything is different. As long as the logo is different or the metal lot of work. Yeah, or the metal slug X, you know, like the sideways X, but it's still a fucking red flag with a white circle and a shape in it. But it's not the wrong shape. They just play the Super Nintendo version of Wolfenstein over and over again. On on Capcom's side of this, it's a bummer that they lost out on the sales. But I don't think they're hurting the scene version looks like it's at least
Starting point is 02:02:04 over two million, which puts this it's catching up to Street Fighter two is the biggest selling Capcom game ever within a year. It's doing it. Just slightly above Biotica. I'm really sorry that this killed the series and that it's dying now that it's off of handhelds, where it was always meant to be. But it's, you know, how did it sell in Japan? Great. Great. Millions.
Starting point is 02:02:32 Um, on the PS4, I'm going to go ahead and guess that motherfuckers are just rocking VPNs where necessary and just like, oh, yeah, that sucks. Now, here's the thing. I'm under the assumption that running a VPN in mainland China is a considerably riskier thing to do than it is over here to steal Netflix. Could be. Could be. They might throw you. I mean, I would never steal Netflix. I'm just saying other people that could be named Pat and look like me would steal
Starting point is 02:03:00 Netflix. Could be. They might they might throw you in a box for using a VPN. That's true. But hey, man, how else are you going to fucking get that Wrathian plate? There you go. Did you go? You did it. I did it. You did it. Did you kill one elder dragon, woolly? Yeah, I'm sure I did. Did you? I feel like I did one.
Starting point is 02:03:19 Cushala, Teoster or Negigante? Oh, definitely. OK, good. Good. That's all. Once you once you get that point, you're at a point where I feel comfortable saying get in this at any point. Well, the first one I killed was the the the fucking the the rapid dash with the lightning. Oh, you killed Karen. Yeah. Oh, OK. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:03:39 Good for you, then. Just multiple thumbs up for pulling, putting up with that shit. He's bullshit. He's the worst, man. But you put on the lightning cloak and then you put on the drink and then you're like, you're easy. This is fun, because now in the future, when new monsters get announced or new game comes out and a monster gets announced and everyone around you goes, now you know why. You know why.
Starting point is 02:04:06 Because that's what happened when Kieran got announced for this game. Like I would pay money to remove it. He is so awful. Uh, so speaking of paying money to remove things. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it could be anything. It could be anything. But what does this mean?
Starting point is 02:04:28 Paying money. Oh, you didn't see the you didn't see the petition. Oh, fuck, no, I didn't mean to post it wasn't even a story. But we got to fix that. It's nothing you can do. It's just an ad. It's like it's just going to run and it's going to be shitty. They didn't hear it, though, so it's fine.
Starting point is 02:04:43 Oh, thank goodness. Anyway, so, yeah, Smash had its direct and they announced all their shit. It was this week, huh? That wasn't even all the stuff. Is it because, yeah, the post Evo was them just going. Everyone is coming out on the 8th, right? And then a smash direct happened. Yes, it did.
Starting point is 02:05:08 Everyone is here. So. First things first. New characters. Yes, Star Wars. Simon Belmont. But fuck that. Richter, Richter, Belmont, Coolest Belmont. Echo fighters.
Starting point is 02:05:27 Dark Samus. Dark Samus. See how cool her pose is? She's just standing on one leg and just kind of floating. Yes, great. Hoping for a say X costume. That would be cool. Chrom is apparently a super weird echo fighter
Starting point is 02:05:40 because he's the echo fighter of three different characters. He's Ike, Roy, and Lucina. Luigi's dead. Luigi's fucking dead. What is it with Sakurai just killing Mario? I actually have an answer to that question. He hates them? No, we'll get to that at the very end.
Starting point is 02:05:56 King K. Rool is ready to fight Broly. Yep. King K. Rool. Leave Jiren to him. With the funniest after action tweet of all time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, which was. It was the creator of King K. Rool on Twitter. I'm sorry I forget your name, buddy.
Starting point is 02:06:11 Greg Males, I believe. Greg Males saying, wow. King K. Rool's in Smash after 25 years. Maybe I should have spent more than five minutes coming up with his kind of shitty, a kind of rubbish name. Which is weird because I'm like, that's a fine name for him.
Starting point is 02:06:26 A fine name for a villain in the 90s. Absolutely. It's definitely a product of his era. So as soon as I saw this CG trailer kick in, I'm like, well, it's obviously K. Rool, much like most people did. Yeah. So I'm really glad that they're like,
Starting point is 02:06:37 everyone will know it's K. Rool, so let's. Fake it out with DDD. Fake it out with DDD. And then you get the perfect gif of DDD laughing for your Twitter reaction. The faces. It's loopable. The faces.
Starting point is 02:06:47 It's loopable. You know, apparently Sakurai voiced him. DDD? Yeah. Oh, that's great. That was a trailer, I think. The faces of Diddy and Donkey with their face in the window is also.
Starting point is 02:06:58 When their eyeballs smashed through glass. Very exploitable. Which, if you remember, is what they do when they fight bosses in the original game. They freak out. So I think I said this on Twitter. Nintendo has more reverence for Rare's work than Rare or Microsoft do.
Starting point is 02:07:14 Absolutely, without a doubt. No question. Because K. Rool's got stuff from Donkey Kong Country, one boss fight, and two. Like he takes out his blender bus from two like that fucking crown throws from his thing. Well, because the crown is king from part one. And part two is where he becomes the pirate.
Starting point is 02:07:34 But no, they gave him all his stuff. And then they fucking do this ridiculous punch shock wave that blows the jungle apart. And you're like, what are we doing, Smash Brothers? But anyway, the Inklings, of course, showed up. The shit they pulled with the stages was great, showing off 103 versus 56 as the... But the thing they pulled with the music track
Starting point is 02:08:01 in that video was the best. Like what? Oh, you don't remember? So it goes, wow, there's a lot of music in this game, and you see the bar raising up, raising up, raising up, and it gets to 480, and it starts to slow down. 481, 482. Fuck that.
Starting point is 02:08:16 And then it slows, slows, slows, and then just shoots up 900. I mean that. I really like when it just said, hey, here's the Castlevania stage. It's super elaborate as fuck. Here's Dracula. Here's a werewolf.
Starting point is 02:08:29 Here's Frankenstein. Here's 34 different tracks. A lot of our music crew really loves Castlevania, so we put in all of the tracks. 28 hours of music. Is that the most of a soundtrack in all of video games? No, there's GTA, probably. Licensed music, yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:52 See, isn't this technically licensed? But no, because it's remixes, though. People did. There's original compositions. You know, that's the thing. But like, oh, MMOs. FF14 has like 50, 60 hours of music at this point. Smash really just is the Oscars.
Starting point is 02:09:12 Yeah. Shovel Knights in. Yep. A lot of assist trophies are in there. When Zero first shows up, everyone freaks out for like a half second. OK, that's cool. Assist trophies.
Starting point is 02:09:26 You want to know what the deal is with everyone dying in these trailers? Sure. Well, could you scroll back up for the people at home who are watching? So they showed up this green thing. Oh, no, you passed it. It was the main menu.
Starting point is 02:09:39 Yeah. On the main menu. That is Luigi's funeral. What could it be? But some intrepid video editors discovered that they half-assed the mosaic on that. And you could actually frame by frame it and discover what it says under there.
Starting point is 02:09:54 And it is the mode called Spirits, which people are imagining has something to do with why all these characters are dying in these trailers and becoming ghosts. And why Nintendo has to come out and say Luigi is OK. Yeah. That is very likely going to be the story mode. Nothing about Mario, though.
Starting point is 02:10:12 And it will be your characters are getting fucking killed and turning into ghosts or some shit. Also, by the way, Smash Bros. Ultimate will not be available in China. It's a theory. I mean, to be like, if that ends up being the subspace emissary, too, like. Time to everybody.
Starting point is 02:10:33 Time to flip their shit. Every sacrifice always said that. How could you ever do that again? We can't do it again. You can't. You can't. But what if it was Simon and Megman and Princess Lena and Kid Alucard with the skateboard?
Starting point is 02:10:48 Now that they're all in, I really want Kevin Keen in there. Now that the in. Keen Commander Keen. Captain N. Captain N is owned by some weird media company that is technically under Heim Saban. Yeah, they license that. That's so get ready for that to never happen.
Starting point is 02:11:05 I still want it. Also, they've never broken the golden rule of outside of video games. There's no Negan showing up. I'm a video game. Are you sure? Captain N. Is he? What video game is he from?
Starting point is 02:11:15 Captain N. And the Game Masters. Yeah, he was in the shut up. I like that. I was thinking about this last night. It's like, oh, who could appear? I'm like, no one that's not been in a video game because that seems to be the one hard rule. They have to have shown up on a Nintendo platform
Starting point is 02:11:35 at some point in history, no matter how tertiary it is. God, Cloud is scraping the bell. Oh, man, it's the theater rhythm. In there. It's only the only thing I can think of. In there. There was some other weird spin off thing that came out of 3DS.
Starting point is 02:11:52 He was in there. That he was in. But what about, I don't know, Doom Guy can appear in Smash. Could Goku appear? Yes, absolutely. Bayonetta murders people harder than Doom Guy. No.
Starting point is 02:12:09 Sometimes. Woolly. Sometimes. Woolly. No. T-Rex ripping you apart and then into the fucking. You know what's more brutal than a big monster ripping apart a small person?
Starting point is 02:12:24 A tiny man ripping apart a big person. OK, well, the point is they've put in violent characters. It's possible. You saw that story that the voice actor for Goku said no one's ever approached him. That's fine. It'll be Japanese Goku. Yeah, that weird leak is there's a rumor about Goku
Starting point is 02:12:41 showing up based on an IMDb page. And I don't know. IMDb is not. That's airtight. Airtight. But anyway, the point is, yeah, if Captain N shows up, the Negans got to show up too. He has to.
Starting point is 02:12:52 And that's so important. Everyone's here. They're all here. So I'm thinking there's a lot of reps from a lot of different companies here. And if you were going to add another easy Sega rep, is you would add Shadow as an echo flag. If you wanted to.
Starting point is 02:13:11 And I'm thinking that it's baffling to me. And it was baffling to me last time that Hey Hachi is not here, considering Namco's helping make the game. I was going to say, so what obvious sort of choices are kind of missing, right? I'm thinking Shadow and Hey Hachi. Pac-Man is the Namco representative.
Starting point is 02:13:26 And if you have to go second on that, then you definitely could go Hey Hachi. But you could also swerve and go like Klanoha. No. You could go. I would want Klanoha. That's absurd. You could go Namco.
Starting point is 02:13:41 Hmm. You can go to Namco. Bomberman was always one of the two. But that's hot sand into Konami. Yeah, I was one bomber man in there. Yeah. But I think I think that too is just like a Sistro thing, right?
Starting point is 02:13:56 Get go dig dug. Anyway, yeah, there's I feel like they like most of the obvious choices have been ironed out at this point. The Ridley and the King K rules are the like Captain Americas put in all the villains and Captain England, I suppose. Um, but yeah, you know, like it's it is that either you can't look at the Shovel Knight thing and be like, Baw, I wish it was playable.
Starting point is 02:14:21 But it's awesome that he made it. Because you know what? That's got to be based on votes, too, right? Shovel Knight made it from his own game's release to assist trophy in the space of one Smash Brothers game. But what about also? But it's that's got to be based on votes, too, right? Like the results of the votes, like kind of having enough
Starting point is 02:14:39 Shovel Knight in there to be like, or some guys do something. Nintendo just loves Shovel Knight because I know that we know that Bayonetta and Shovel Knight were like hugely voted. But I don't know how much wonderful one on one. Well, yeah, Wonder Red showed up. Yeah, no way to know. But I would like to think that Wonder Red was in the top 10. No. 10,000 people bought the game.
Starting point is 02:15:03 You always underestimate how much of a massive, massive film I'd like to think the sentence began with. I'd like to think like I'd I'd beautiful. Joe should be in it over Wonder Red. You're not wrong in terms of popularity in terms of popularity. You're right. We might see an echo fighter of Ken or Akuma. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 02:15:26 Echo fighters really opened it up. It really did. For a lot of does it more easy picks? Do you do? Does the fact that you've called it the do blah? Does the distinction of echo fighter make it feel less like a slot being wasted? No, but the people they're picking
Starting point is 02:15:43 makes it feel less like a slot being wasted. Yeah, there hasn't been a bad one. Because Dark Pit, Matt, I think your your position on just remove Dark Pit from the game is absurd. But Dark Pit fucking sucks. Yeah, as as a as a character select screen shot on. Yeah, every single other person they've shown as an echo fighter has been much better.
Starting point is 02:16:07 But you know what's funny, though, is the fact that early on in the franchise, fucking everyone was an echo fighter. It could be an echo fighter. Gannon Dorf is an echo fighter of Captain Falcon. That's right. Luigi's an echo fighter of fucking Mario. Yeah. What's his name? Lucas is an echo fighter of Ness.
Starting point is 02:16:29 Yeah, like everyone was an echo fighter. So it doesn't they start to grow apart over time. And there's a cut off point, certainly. But like, if you really want to get nuts with it, you can go find those similarities and fucking throw everyone in that category. So they're the Falco. Who do you want as brand new characters left? Wonder Red, I assume.
Starting point is 02:16:47 I do. I want. Fuck. I got a buddy of mine who convinced me of this pick. I was like, that's bullshit. That's not going to be in. And then I was like, hmm, he pointed out that every single game has one new Pokemon character. As a fighter.
Starting point is 02:17:06 And if there was going to be one new, unless they pull until they pulled up Pichu and Mewtwo, yeah, but they'd still had new ones. Yeah, they pulled one. They pulled some out. Yeah. Oh, oh, fucking sorry. Go if they're going to put in one new one, it should be. What's his name? He's the fucking final evolution. He's the Luchador flame.
Starting point is 02:17:28 Oh, yeah. Hallucha. No, no, no, no, no, the flame dog becomes a big fucking huge Luchador in Sun and Moon. Or there's the mosquito. Incineroar. Incineroar. Incineroar.
Starting point is 02:17:41 It's a cat. Whatever. It's fucking cool. You said dog. Doesn't matter. Yeah, Incineroar. It's a huge pro wrestler. The giant mosquito buff.
Starting point is 02:17:49 Oh, that dude's weird. I know that guy. The giant buff mosquito would be rad, too. That'd be fun. But no, for me, the remaining, the remaining like ones would have to be Wonder Red and Springman. I was going to say someone.
Starting point is 02:18:05 It's kind of weird. We haven't seen Springman. Someone from Arms, definitely like Springman. But I would I'd be happy with literally anyone on the cast because they're like, oh, Springman would make it. And you think it'd be Ribbon Girl at the very least. I could be an echo fighter for like Little Mac. Maybe. Yeah, I think I think they'd pick Springman.
Starting point is 02:18:22 He sees the he's the title guy. I prefer Ribbon Girl. It would be fine. I kind of prefer almost everyone. It'd be fine. But yeah, that that would be the the the or you could just go straight to Twintail and like fucking give everyone what they want. A fighter of like Bayonetta or whatever you ever give everyone what they want.
Starting point is 02:18:39 Yeah, I think I think I'm a spring based character from Arms would be a good a good addition as well, just to represent the franchise. I also showed off a hell of a lot of other stuff, some of which is really nuts. That stage teleport mechanic. Yeah, is wild and had I had no expectation of something like so. What was that? If you pick two stages and turn the option on during the fight, the stage will randomly transform into the other one very quickly to
Starting point is 02:19:05 stage hazards can be turned on and off. You can also battlefield or final D any stage in the game. Meadered final. Yeah, yeah. Max freaked out about that. And Max was right to freak out about because we need to know whether or not though, because they say the Smashers aren't as strong when you get them. We are right.
Starting point is 02:19:22 Are they still guarantee kills likely not? Yeah, are they are they are they balanced? I don't know because some of them are fucking crazy. Fuck Smashballs get the fuck out of here. We could look at meter meter Smash, bro. If they're not guaranteed kills and they'll be guaranteed kills, depending on how much damage your percentage. Yeah, if you're over like you're over fucking 50 or the way
Starting point is 02:19:47 Marth is his thing works is if you're over a certain percentage, you just die. Yes. But I like the idea. Oh boy, do I like more than I not like it. It's great. I like it. And I hope that it is a viable thing. They've also taken steps shockingly directly for the competitive community. You pick your stage first.
Starting point is 02:20:09 You can set loser pick stage. You set your rules first. Like it's clearly designed to make turnies easier to manage. It's designed to give people what they wanted and asked for over all this time. You know, it's it's nice. Yeah, the idea like because meter Smash is coming in is a bit like Tekken getting supers, right? That's like, yeah, this is not what the series was about.
Starting point is 02:20:33 So I'll just make them all shitty and then we could just use them and they'll be shitty and then they'll be. Yeah, well, remember when they initially like revealed the game, they said, we're making changes to like smash. They got rid of the installs. Yeah, they got rid of all installs. That's true. So because of this.
Starting point is 02:20:51 Yes, you had installs with the meter. You then installs and then Sonic becomes the best, right? Sonic and Bowser and anyone that's just got a long special cinema. Yeah, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. So when Salera getting in, you're right. He's got his Amiibo. Well, because they they open that gate with Bayo and cloud cloud. They open that gate with cloud.
Starting point is 02:21:13 They they can't put him in until Dark Souls Remaster comes out on the switch because that he wouldn't go on the first principle. So he could be a DLC character. He could, but I think that's supposed to come out before smashes anyway. The other thing they could do is just make the start up of everything like not identical, but almost universal in the way the tech knows as well. Where it's like, activate, swing, with or hit. Exactly.
Starting point is 02:21:40 Also, I legit really want urban champion like super bad in the duck hunt style. Yeah, or super realistic as an assist. Just a guy in green pants and a blue shirt as an assist trophy. As an assist trophy would be fine, too. I agree with that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, guess what? Smash looks great. Yep. Hey, it really turned me from around from going on.
Starting point is 02:22:02 This is kind of lazy to this is the opposite of when they said don't expect too many newcomers like along the inkling like announcement. Yeah, there was a fear in my heart that it's like, yeah, you got inkling. Yeah, that's that's you got shut up. And now that we have this fucking crew alone and they said during the then they said there are more new characters. But we will tell you when the time comes.
Starting point is 02:22:29 Yeah. Can we get Satan from Shin Megami Tensei? Oh, boy, could we ever. Can we get Barry? Can we get Barry? Lucifer? Yeah. No. Oh, my God. Yeah. The way this has been done, the incarnation of the Rostrum, the roster is infinite and they have shown themselves willing to go for how do I put this hard to obtain picks?
Starting point is 02:22:54 Well, we haven't seen this level of fuck it, Sakurai, since Brawl. Absolutely. Brawl was very fuck it. This is Brawl was to the moon. We don't care. And this is it again. Yeah. And it's overwhelming and nuts in how much is coming. But there's definitely and with that amount of overwhelming just content, content, and this is a half step smash, as opposed to a full step sequel. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:23:19 It's the only thing that I look at that like I just I go, it just it's sad that like because smash has become the Oscars, like a lot of excitement is also hand in hand with disappointment of what's not happening. So, for example, one of the things they showed off in this trailer was that Rathalos gets a stage and a boss fight for Monster Hunter. Which leads to the conclusion. Do you really think they would have given an entire stage to the game
Starting point is 02:23:49 just for this assist trophy? Could the Monster Hunter be another thing? I would be beyond thrilled to be able to play Monster Hunter in a good game. But. Like that's not guaranteed, right? There's no there's absolutely no guarantee that Monster Hunter is going to be in there. I think they would have revealed it with the Rathalos reveal. Not necessarily. Not necessarily.
Starting point is 02:24:10 But it could just not be done. Yeah. And and I hate that. And I even hate it in myself that like that the Shovel Knight thing is not all excitement. Yeah, like you I had said he to be kind of disappointed. Yeah, I hate what an asshole. I hate it in myself that I'm like, oh, man, you know, a little bit. Because I'm like, I wish he was playing. It's like, dude, she's playable in many other games.
Starting point is 02:24:34 Oh, for sure. If he was playable in zero games, I'd be like, oh, yeah. No, no, it's it's definitely it's a feeling that we all have to acknowledge. That's like us being disappointed that Zubaz is just an assist. Of course. Of course. Right. Exactly. It's it's this thing you it's a little thing. Smash one Shovel Knight becomes playable. Right. That means Zubaz can be an assist trophy.
Starting point is 02:24:58 Yeah, as. As as people that have been watching this evolution of Smash Brothers over the course of the years, they'll never be a snake taking off the box moment again. But I don't know. Oh, I. Simon was pretty fucking close. No, not close. Cloud was closer. Cloud was. Yeah. Cloud was probably almost as good.
Starting point is 02:25:17 It was better. Cloud is the wildest pick ever. Bayonetta to me is the wildest. Yeah, but they own the rights to that Bayonetta. That was always within the cloud is so much not expected. Clouds, but I'm like, but also like bail is so not PG. But Nintendo still published it. Did you play it? You see the ship goes on in that game with weird little graphics,
Starting point is 02:25:42 though, not like in super detail. You're right. The snake that's that's right. Primrose's story is not disturbing at all because of the cute bunch of little sprites fucked up bunch of little sprites bumping into each other. Sprites can't have filthy mouth sprites bumping into each other. What's the problem? Is there a pick that makes sense?
Starting point is 02:26:04 That's like, oh, but what is the look of blight squeals his way in? Cute little that's a PlayStation game through and through. You're asking about is there a character that could still be a snake or a cloud? Oh, just the wildest out hatred. No, no, it'd be Goku. Goku would be the one that everyone wanted. But you even the people who want that character genuinely don't believe could get into the game.
Starting point is 02:26:33 I think I think maybe not as much. But like Banjo would be a really wild if Microsoft said, OK, sure. So there's there's two categories, right? There is a holy shit. This would never happen. And this that you deserve to be up here with the rest, you know, Banjo, to me, is in the category of you deserve to be up here. You know, who would be in the game?
Starting point is 02:26:55 Sora and Mickey Mouse. You could you could so it would be a big one. But does that make sense? Like, can we break this up? There's empty seats like K. Rule has had an empty seat for a decade. Yeah, Ridley is at an empty seat, right? Everyone shows you see that and goes finally versus you.
Starting point is 02:27:13 Yeah. And like, that's the thing is the empty seats are always going to have a little bit of like a little like, oh, why didn't you? You know, when I started thinking about the city to feel like Microsoft has said, we'd love to have Banjo in that game. They said, I was like, don't stop there. Who else appeared? Who else does Microsoft own? Halo, man.
Starting point is 02:27:34 That Nintendo also would be like throwing fucking full gore. Are they? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Are they not? Are they actually not going to put Waluigi? It's funny to me because is Waluigi actually not in his trophy? It makes me still think they'll pull one out. But it's kind of insane that he's not though. I feel like Nintendo regrets the creation of Waluigi.
Starting point is 02:27:57 I think so. Because the memes got out of control. I think because they hate him and they hate that people like him. The memes, the memes got out of control. Ever since they confirmed he's uncircumcised, they haven't really been pushing as Waluigi is the Daniel Bryan for some reason. Nintendo. Yeah, something like that. Stop cheering this fuck.
Starting point is 02:28:18 Stop it. And they like Wario. Yeah. Same character. Because his games are great. What game does Waluigi have? Tennis. Yeah, Waluigi in his games. He doesn't have his own game.
Starting point is 02:28:30 He doesn't have his own game. But that didn't stop a bunch of these people from getting in. Doshin the Giant should be a... Oh, fuck you. No, not character. Stage hazard or something. Sorry. Just reaction. Reaction.
Starting point is 02:28:42 When you say Doshin the Giant should be answered. That's like you saying, well, buck, bumble, I'm like, fuck you. Yo, give buck, bumble's music in there, though. As a reason. Reckon Balls, Iggy Lizard. Iggy's Reckon Balls. Turok. Yeah, fucking Turok in this.
Starting point is 02:28:59 Duke Nukem, technically counts. Waluigi is an assist trophy. He is. But they haven't shown up. With the tennis racket. It's one of those things. I didn't know that. Was that in Smash Wii U?
Starting point is 02:29:11 I want to say that's where they grabbed the model from to make him in the fucking hacked version. It's one of those things where people go over all the footage that exists and they count the assist trophies that haven't shown up. And like one of the reasons I say Shadow might be an echo fighter is Shadow's assist trophy has not shown up. In any footage.
Starting point is 02:29:27 Because people that used to be assist trophies and become characters don't keep their assist trophy. Yeah. Well, in any case, lots of love is going in. Everyone is here. And those who aren't are showing up in other games like Rivals of Aether. That's crazy.
Starting point is 02:29:44 Fucking Shovel Knight gets around, dude. He's in this. He's an indivisible. He's in Blade Strangers. He's in Indie Pogo. He's in, I want to say, another. The one that I had, the one that I. The other one.
Starting point is 02:30:01 Yeah. Shovel Knight brings new meaning to the term Indie Darling because it's the character that's the Indie Darling. It's it's like it's like what Beck was supposed to be and failed so hard. Boy, wow. There's there's also something with like a particular set of characters.
Starting point is 02:30:18 Shovel Knight's it's the most prolific in terms of showing up as guests. But other, but like, like, like, yeah, there is for certain. There's something there. But no, there's a little round table thing going about where it's like, OK, you know, who else is starting to get around? Fucking Juan is starting to get around. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:30:35 Right. Juan's in some stuff. Juan Juan Guacamelee. OK. Right. And suddenly fucking Dead Cells is starting to get around. And Hyper Light Drifter. Hyper Light Drifter is getting like there's a set group
Starting point is 02:30:49 of like indie heroes or he's in this or yeah, congrats. Well, you just created a game. Indie heroes. Yeah. That there's already two of them and they're and they're they're making rounds. There's three indie competitive fighting type things. The one you mentioned, I forget his name, Battle Bounty, Indiegogo,
Starting point is 02:31:09 Indie Pogo, Indie Pogo, and then Bladestream. But then there's two. There's cart Indie Cartracer. So you got so you got Shovel Knight. You got the Hyper Light Drifter. There's way more of that cell, man. You got Juan. You got Negan.
Starting point is 02:31:19 You got so there's a lot. Yeah. The thing with the with the Shovel Knight announcement and Rivals of Aether is the amount of love in the announcement. It's it's a little weird, though, as cool as it is. Like I just assumed a metric to get into Rivals of Aether is that you had to be a weird creature or animal. He is.
Starting point is 02:31:39 He's a shovel creature. OK. They just now they it's got like the rules are are gone. The rules are now just. When Shovel Knight comes to your party, you bend the rules. We just like him. He's in. And hey, who's to say that Shovel Knight's not an animal
Starting point is 02:31:51 underneath that helmet? Most people can't prove it. What if those horns are real? You can't prove it. Triple King. Triple King. Yes. So the fun of the Shovel Knight version of the of the Shovel Knight
Starting point is 02:32:04 in Rivals of Aether is the moves they've given him are like more than just the obvious. You obviously you got the shovel and the digging, but he's got the fucking fishing pole and he fishes up the trouples as a move, right? I can bounce off people's projectiles. The level of love in his animation is incredible. It's really, really nice.
Starting point is 02:32:24 And he basically pulls out all the power ups you get later on in the games and including the item guy. And you fucking just it's so much love put into the character in the same way that like, yeah, you can shove cloud in, but cloud with all his limit breaks. Oh, fuck, you know, like that. That's like that's like this is the fun way to do it. So I think this is probably one of the coolest ways
Starting point is 02:32:47 I've seen Shovel Knight implemented so far. Nothing else has seemed as in depth. I love you, Shovel Knight. That's what they've done here. And you get this really great animation into the Rivals of Aether logo. Yeah, man, good stuff. Good stuff, Rivals of Aether.
Starting point is 02:33:00 You know the best part about Shovel Knight is that game keeps coming out every year with a new thing. Yacht Club is riding that boat as far as it'll take them. It's a good boat. Because you made one and it was great. And then you made another and it was great. And then you just kept it going. Like, well, you added on to it is what you do.
Starting point is 02:33:21 What I mean, when I say another, I mean Plague Knight. I mean, yeah, you added on to it. Plague Knight is super tough. I've still not beaten his campaign. No, neither have I. His aiming mechanic is a lot tougher for me to get my head around than Shovel Knight's hit the thing with the thing mechanic.
Starting point is 02:33:35 God, like, yeah, we can get a Shovel Knight too, but why? Right now there's good shit coming. Let's finish Shovel Knight one first in like two years. There's good shit, y'all. We don't need a two. Yeah, man. Fucking Yacht Club. So yeah, shout outs to Dan Fornes and the Shovel Knight
Starting point is 02:33:55 that just showed up. Yeah, you know what, Matt? Fucking cool. I mean, I'm going to change the context of what you said a little bit, but you nailed it. If like, Shovel Knight is what Beck was supposed to be. There's going to have anime and TV shows and be a media empire. I don't even mean that.
Starting point is 02:34:08 I mean, like, Shovel Knight is like the hero of retro games. Yeah, like 100%. And he feels like it. When your game hasn't come out yet, and you say he's going to be in anime and movies, like, you've already fucked up. I would kill a fucking baby to get a Shovel Knight anime right now.
Starting point is 02:34:29 That's not what I thought you were going to say, to get a mighty number nine anime. Yeah, yeah, that's what I want. I don't know. That's one of those things where I'm like an adult. Do we need to do adult? Fine. You know what I would like?
Starting point is 02:34:41 I would like like the little Sonic Mania cartoons that came out. Yes, yes. Like little Shovel Knight mini adventures. A thousand percent, dude. One fucking thousand. Yes, because I'm like, do I really want to take the risk of a long story with dialogue
Starting point is 02:34:57 and shitty writing and mistakes? He's not allowed to talk. But it's still, but you have to have it. It has to go a fucking 90 minutes. It's got to have, you know what I mean? No, I don't like that. You got to make 90 minutes of content and it has to be good and not shit.
Starting point is 02:35:08 Really, really beautiful Joe the anime. Oh, no, you know, the times of Devil May Cry. The times of the peak of what this medium needs to be is achieving a movie are done. We don't need that anymore. Movies are no longer. That's a movie, isn't an anime.
Starting point is 02:35:23 That's sure. Still, shorts. Those Shovel Knight shorts. Yeah, I was... That's anime. I'm bringing up some feelings I have about like. Yeah, you are. About like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 02:35:32 Like there's stuff where you're like, okay, yeah, we know Samus as a fucking main character, but also... Oh, no, I want that Samus movie super bad because it'd be terrible. But that's how you make it good, right? No, no. You don't.
Starting point is 02:35:45 Ah, fuck you, no. Stop that. And I think should, yeah. The way you make... I don't want to hear that from an other M-apologist. The other way you make Shovel Knight good is by doing those Sonic shorts. Because that's the kind of character.
Starting point is 02:35:56 It's a simple character. It's a simple world. Brevity is the soul of wit. And if you have to fucking write out this character talking and having monologues, or being silent while the rest of the world talks. Well, we read parts of the Shadow of the Colossus script. You saw how good that was.
Starting point is 02:36:12 What are you talking about? Because even if you decide to go, no, he's silent, then you're like, great. Well, his sidekick has to talk the whole time. The Shovel. It's like, you know what I mean? Megamy has to open up out of his helmet and come out and talk to it.
Starting point is 02:36:25 Boy, that shit is weird. Have you seen that? You know. It's bad. It's not good. We don't need to do that. We don't need to do that. We can keep it.
Starting point is 02:36:32 We can keep it simple. And yes, Shovel Knight can say the couple things he says and whatnot, but shorts would be the way. Strike the earth. That's the win. It's the same way I'm like, do I want 100 episodes or six high-budget ones? Well, you know?
Starting point is 02:36:48 Or do you want Legend of Galactic Heroes, which is 100 good episodes? There's that. You're only 10. That's what everyone wants. So, and related to this, and furthermore, you guys are gonna get a kick, I hope.
Starting point is 02:37:06 Tell me how much of a kick I'm gonna get. Well, based on current fucking events. Yooka Laylee and Dead Cells are coming to brawl out. Oh, shit. I didn't see that. That's, yeah. How about that? Wait, isn't Shovel Knight in that too?
Starting point is 02:37:25 No. No, Shovel Knight. No, Drifter Swan. We're looking at. They're right there. We're looking at a fucking screenshot of Drifter, Juan, Dead Cells, and Yooka Laylee. Coming to brawl out.
Starting point is 02:37:35 Hanging out as the indie heroes. Yep, brawl out is that smash clone that was on the switch. Yooka Laylee could also be in Rivals of Aether and totally fit in. Oh yeah, more than Shovel Knight even. I fucking, I'm peeling it back. We sat down to play this,
Starting point is 02:37:51 and I popped it in last week, and it was, we looked, and then I kind of forgot about the fact that it's like, oh shit, the entire roster's locked, and all the stages are locked, and the one fast way there is to unlocking shit in this game has been patched out, so now you just have to suffer through it
Starting point is 02:38:08 because it's a really long, obnoxious way to unlock content. This is a grindy game till the auction. So we didn't do that. We were gonna play it last week, and then we looked at the character select, and we all laughed. And so that's why,
Starting point is 02:38:17 and then we switched over to another thing that didn't work, and then we switched over to Fate Unlimited Codes. Now, the brawl keeps. Yeah, that's right. Fate was the replacement game. To the replacement game. The brawl keeps going, y'all,
Starting point is 02:38:29 Fate's a double replacement. And speaking of Fate, when we didn't do it, this announcement came out and said, this month, they're adding these two characters to the game. So it's good we didn't do it. Here's the other thing.
Starting point is 02:38:41 Yes. The characters that are locked, they're all fucking clone Echo Fighters anyway. So it doesn't even matter. But they're, but it's like Juan, or it's Hyper Light Dripping. No, no, they're already unlocked. Is it a clone character?
Starting point is 02:38:53 No, no, no, they're already there. I'm saying everything that was locked on that menu that you saw, those characters are all clones of the original cast. Yeah, I figured. So it doesn't even matter. So quite frankly, stages are really the only thing we got to worry about because whatever.
Starting point is 02:39:07 And like, we can just do it. So there you go. That's what's happening. And one of these fucking characters drop and brawl out. Then we'll just do that because that's what I was more or less waiting on. But yeah, like they have, you'll see like the like various versions of a bird person
Starting point is 02:39:24 or various versions of like a walrus man that are on the rest of the roster. Like it's a shark man instead and stuff. And it's just, they're echo fighters, but brawl out is, it's got ukulele in it. So there you go. What else we got? Guy from Dead Cells, they didn't have a name.
Starting point is 02:39:44 The hard-hitting hero. The hard-hitting hero. Is it one of the Dead Cells? What are we actually calling that character? Dead Cells. Dead Cells? I just said they wrote, what they wrote was the hard-hitting hero.
Starting point is 02:39:56 Yeah, but like, what's his name on the characters? I don't know, but that's what they called him. That's weird. And the developer must have given them that name, no? I assume. We're just gonna call him Dead Cells. He's gonna, he's fucking called Triple H. That's what he's called.
Starting point is 02:40:07 What? He's all the hard-hitting hero. He's Triple H. Oh my God. Hey, Jean-Paul. Levec. He's like so not French. His nose grew so big his head fell off.
Starting point is 02:40:22 Hard-hitting hero from Dead Cells revealed as new fighter for brawl out. Well, then it shows a picture of the character and just says Dead Cells next to it. That's what they called him. Must be Dead Cells, man. He's hard-hitting hero from Dead Cells. Triple H, that's his name.
Starting point is 02:40:36 Yeah, okay. Well, Dead Cells. Dead Cells just got a lot better. Playing that game is Triple H. Oh man. All right, look. Oh yeah. Sometimes, sometimes the world brings you things.
Starting point is 02:40:51 Sometimes it just gives you a gift. We unpacked the gift this week and it was an alternate ending to Mac and Me. Somehow, someone, somewhere dug this up. So I have the story for you here. Go for it. So the basic deal is that the original, the original ending of the Mac and Me movie
Starting point is 02:41:09 was deemed too violent for North American audiences. So a different ending was shot. However, that original ending was then shipped out with every copy of the movie ever to all other world audiences, including Japanese. So with the Japanese Blu-ray release of Mac and Me, a guy has taken a video with his shitty phone of the real, true ending to Mac and Me,
Starting point is 02:41:39 in which when Mac and his weird alien family are attempting to leave, the cops try and stop him. Unfortunately, for the kid... In the wheelchair. The wheelchair kid. I guess his name is Me. A cop trips and shoots him straight through the chest,
Starting point is 02:41:58 killing the child. In the ending that aired in North America, aired, released, whatever. Whatever. The kid got blown up in an explosion of some kind and was kind of vague, and then Mac and Me like, eatied him back to life, right?
Starting point is 02:42:20 This kid has a rough time in this movie. He's falling off fucking cliffs over and over and over again and get bleh, bleh, in like, in the chest. Get shot right through the back. Good trigger discipline from this police officer. And trips with his gun. In this version, when he gets shot, Mac and Me runs over and heals him.
Starting point is 02:42:37 So the kid's fine. That cop's career is over. You shot a disabled kid. You shot a disabled child. In the back. In the back. Because you tripped. And he was mid-roll.
Starting point is 02:42:48 So he slumped over and then the chair just carried his lifeless body out. That is a bumble ward right there. I want an explanation for why. Well, I was chasing the aliens. Okay, well, you're out of here. How did you even get up here? You're clearly drunk right now.
Starting point is 02:43:04 And I think somewhere it says like, this Paul Rudd and Conan need to know about this right now. Like, best ending discovered for Mac and Me. Paul Rudd, if you're locked. Paul Rudd, if you're listening to our podcast, and I know you are because you're a big fan of Yakuza, you need to bring this clip or a cleaned up version of this clip to Conan to fuck with him next time.
Starting point is 02:43:27 And I know there'll be a next time. You can't stay off the show. Now, NBC would not have aired the handicapped child's death live on the stream. But would TBS? Yeah, why the fuck not? I don't know. People have grown numb
Starting point is 02:43:43 to this kind of ultraviolence on the television. There's no blood in this shot. No, he just kind of slumps backwards. And you see that puff of air. Shoot out. Mostly because the child must be filled with air. Balls in your court, TBS. Why have they didn't even shoot this ending though?
Starting point is 02:43:59 Because they thought it would be cool. But who, like the movie studio needed to be like, yeah, sure. That's like the G.I. Joe thing, where Duke gets a fucking snake spear through his heart. And then they're like, he fell into a coma. As far as I can tell, the way that it happened was that they had it written, and then they shot the scene.
Starting point is 02:44:20 And when they played the scene back, it came out way more violent than they had anticipated. And there was no way to cut around it or mitigate it. Yeah, so they edited it for test markets. Death by police shooting. It was relevant. That's how you story? Sounds like a movie for kids.
Starting point is 02:44:42 I don't know. There you go. Yeah, yeah, that's strong. That's a gift. Said the alien. Yeah, put the alien footage over the shot. Bang. Do it, mom.
Starting point is 02:44:58 Mom knows. What the fuck is the quiet man? You don't remember this from Dirty Three? Do you remember the weird live action trailer that we watched on the guy? Half live action, half, like, fighter beat him up? I did not. So do you remember the trailer?
Starting point is 02:45:17 I do, I remember it, yeah. So two things. Look how Japanese that looks. This is being made by human head, who made prey. And published by Square. And who got off attempting to be murdered by Bethesda. Yeah, so we may want to zoom the footage up just a little bit, like, I don't know,
Starting point is 02:45:35 like five minutes or something. Zoom by zoom, you mean scroll. So we're looking at this trailer for the quiet man, which again. This is from a Japanese Square Enix live stream. I remember this live action trailer right there. I remember that. And effectively.
Starting point is 02:45:52 Like, more you need to get to me. Yeah, no, no, no, I saw it earlier. Zippy Zab Zoom. So there's a trailer here where there's like a lot of live action stuff happening and then a fight breaks out where this pretty boy goes to beat up some thugs. And he beats the thugs up.
Starting point is 02:46:05 And then it just switches into this into gameplay. So yeah, it seems like they're trying to go for a hyper cinematic experience, which means like no hud of any kind. Really just like between and like the live action stuff is lit the same as like the scene is in real life. Now, I watched a good amount of footage of this and it's like, I don't know if this game is early,
Starting point is 02:46:32 but I hope it's super early. Yeah, the movement looks really bad. When you're just walking around and just moving around, like it just, it's just very janky. It looks like they put a lot of work into making the models and lighting like look exactly like the shots that they filmed. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:46:49 But that comes some type of sacrifice. But there's a little, there's a detectable aspect of jank. This is such a weird parent. Square Enix publishing, human head entertainments, live action brawler. Live action anything. Live action anything. Could this be the sequel to the bouncer?
Starting point is 02:47:11 My brain went there. A last shift. My brain didn't go there. But yeah, they gave no more dates about when this is coming. But yeah, I hope it's super early. It's cool that there's a like third person brawler game coming out. The weird part of this is that if you've made these
Starting point is 02:47:31 environments and models and characters, it's almost like why even bother doing a live action element. I totally agree. Like why not just use the money? Does it save money? No. Live action cost.
Starting point is 02:47:43 It's, it really, I don't imagine it does, you know? Imagine we're playing Detroit and then suddenly there's live action moments in Detroit. Like you spent all this money making these character models. Why not just use them? And then like the game, you know, have a consistent look. It's a weird decision. And then it's an artistic one.
Starting point is 02:48:04 It feels like, I don't know why. Oh God, no dude. It feels like, it feels like, it feels like they're trying. It looks like such a dope. Feels like they're trying to do the brawler equivalent of a quantum break. Yeah. I mean they picked an actor.
Starting point is 02:48:22 Which also didn't work by the way. They picked an actor and then they modeled a game around him and his look. So it's like, yeah, you can't change that. You can't cut it. You can't get that quack. It seems like the way everything moves reminds me of like a PlayStation move game.
Starting point is 02:48:37 Just watching it visually. Like if the live stream of like the Japanese guy that's playing, if he was doing this, I'd be like, yeah, that seems about right. Or like a connect game. Yeah, or something. I know what you mean. Yeah, there's a weirdness to it.
Starting point is 02:48:53 We'll see more when we see more, I guess. But the quiet man. Also, I guess I want to see how they handle like not dark, like dank rooms. I don't think such a thing exists. In the quiet man. It's all dark. Yeah, it's all dark.
Starting point is 02:49:11 Every single room. Oh, that you might. Flashbacks of bright flashbacks. But is there is there gameplay in the bright flashbacks? Nope. No, I guess not. If he doesn't talk, I'm not sure how the story. He's the quiet man.
Starting point is 02:49:25 It's literally, that's his name. He's Drive. Yeah, maybe. He's still taught. He's just been taught. Yeah, exactly. He's not the silent man. He's the quiet man.
Starting point is 02:49:38 So yeah, there's that. That's cool. But bad. We don't know. Currently. We don't know. Currently bad. There's some weirdness.
Starting point is 02:49:45 There's some weirdness. All right, you guys can go on. All right. We got 10 minutes of Doom Eternal. And apparently, there was talks of something that there's a leak. So there's way more than 10 minutes. That gameplay thing they put out of the whole presentation
Starting point is 02:50:06 is like half an hour. And while the raw gameplay loop is 10 minutes, they also do a bunch of environment flybys that look like a fucking Elder Scrolls game at some point. I thought they were going to almost reveal like a new heretic, or Hexen. So when you guys were talking about that shit, when you guys were describing the stuff that was in this,
Starting point is 02:50:26 like you were describing it in such a way where you didn't really clearly distinguish what you were saying. So my takeaway was the Predator is now in Doom. Yeah. No, the Predator's wearing the Doom Armor. The Predator's a bitch. Like you guys, but I really didn't get what you were saying.
Starting point is 02:50:42 He's got an arm blade. He's got grapple. But then I saw it. And I was like, yeah, he's got a plasma cannon and a flamethrower. And I guess he never had any of those things in the first game. Before the gameplay reveal, they showed like a picture of the new shotgun.
Starting point is 02:50:52 They're like, oh, and he has this new attachment here. It's called the Meat Hook. And we can't wait to show you what that does. And I'm like, what did that do, though? I was under the assumption, so many people, that it was a scorpion type grappling hook that would drag enemies to you. I thought it was like a melee.
Starting point is 02:51:08 However, it drags you to enemy. Like this changes so much of life. This is a fucking first person character action. It's almost a different thing. The mobility on display is like approaching something like Titanfall. Doesn't it? It's high.
Starting point is 02:51:24 You have double air dashes and double air jumps. What was the end of the original game like in terms of? Murder. Mobility. You move fast, and you jump twice. You were about as mobile as Samus is in a. You move fast, you jump twice. There was nothing on this level.
Starting point is 02:51:41 No. You didn't have dashes. No. You also got a wall climb. You just man fast. OK. Also things they showed off in this gameplay demo was a bunch of new enemy types.
Starting point is 02:51:53 What appears to be bigger level structure that has like a Metroidvania progression thing where you punch through certain walls. But the craziest thing they show off in this at the very end is the invasion mechanic, where they are just doing straight up dark souls invasions. Oh, wow. Players control enemies, and they hunt down the Doom Slayer.
Starting point is 02:52:17 And players have a certain number of lives as those enemies. Cool. OK. Across them, across this like single player? Yeah. During your campaign. It'll say invasion imminent, and players will load in as enemies with certain amounts of lives.
Starting point is 02:52:31 Interesting. And they will come in, and they will fight you. So what's all this about like demons like peaceful, not peacefully, but like demons being integrated into like. Yeah. It looks so. The tone is so weird. It looks like the villains of the last game
Starting point is 02:52:47 succeeded and made deals with Earth and the devil. And now shit is just fucked. That is what it appears. OK, there's two villains of the first game. And one was like, you know what? These demons aren't so bad. And one of them is like, this isn't what I thought. And it's unclear which one.
Starting point is 02:53:07 Was the evil. Which one was the evil one. So this just seems to be like the evil company that was the head of all this was anticipating all these demons would come through the portals. And we're like, hey, Noah, let's roll out the red carpet. They decided to stand next to the portal with their hand out in friendship.
Starting point is 02:53:25 Now, is this the story that took place that the D that. Like, I thought the whole point was that the Doom guy just punches the screen before you even get the story. Well, whenever someone tries to explain story to him, he goes, shut up. When you, well, no, people still act around him. OK. And talk, but he just doesn't have time for it.
Starting point is 02:53:46 You can run past some of it, but there's other sections where you're stuck in the elevator and you have to listen. I should also mention, Willie, but it is extraordinarily clear by the time you get to the end of the 2016 Doom that it is a canonical sequel to Doom. Oh, I would imagine. It is.
Starting point is 02:54:02 This truck keeps on rolling. And the Doom Marine is tired. I don't know if he's tired. Well, it's a character who's really fed up. Yeah, yeah. With really good reasons. And everyone around him seems fucking stupid. And did you see the clip of him walking through the Union
Starting point is 02:54:27 Aerospace Facility? I promise you I did not. OK. It's all these tech workers, and he's just strolling to where he needs to go. And they're hiding behind their chairs. Everyone's shitting their pants when they see him. Just regular Joe's just doing their job.
Starting point is 02:54:40 He walks up to a guard who goes, hey, you can't come back. And Doom guy just walks over and looks at his gun and just takes it out of his hand. And the guy goes, ugh. OK. Also, there's a line that I didn't hear the first time. I needed to be pointed out in another video. It's like when he's going in an elevator
Starting point is 02:54:59 and he's looking at a vista, and it shows this giant cannon that shoots a green blast. It's a satellite-sized BFG. It's called the BFG 10,000. The original BFG. Yeah, but this one's the size of like, yeah, satellite. OK. And it's shooting off world at something the game does not
Starting point is 02:55:15 show you. Oh, cool. OK. But we have no idea what it is. Interesting. But it's big. And then as you're going down that elevator, the fucking automated system goes warning.
Starting point is 02:55:26 Doomslayer level is at maximum. It says that? Yeah. No, Doomslayer threat level has reached maximum. The Doomslayer is in the facility. So that's his cannon name in the world. In the first game, it calls him all the time. Yeah, Doomslayer, yeah.
Starting point is 02:55:41 All right. So yeah, like, he's great. Shout out to the grappling hooks and predator weapons. He hates demons. Yeah. And they also announced this is going to launch on the Switch as well, which is cool. Because of Panic button.
Starting point is 02:55:53 Yeah. How did you guys play this game? I played it on PC with the controller, the Blasphemist's way possible. And I had a ton of fun, and it's totally viable. I played it on my Xbox and with the controller as well, obviously, and I had a great time. And I played, like, half the game on the Switch.
Starting point is 02:56:12 OK. So we have no mouse wasdas in the room. No, I mean, obviously, you're going to be more pinpoint, but like the game is how to put this? It's a it's a shooter that was clearly built with the mentality that console players are like the target audience. Gotcha.
Starting point is 02:56:29 So don't worry about it. They were as long as you don't do that polygon shit. Just don't do that shit. You'll be fine. Also neat thing that you remember that that footage of doom that came out from Polygon that was just like the most embarrassing shit ever. Oh, yeah. Also, they had a neat thing where they're like, oh, demons
Starting point is 02:56:46 will degrade and get destroyed as you fight. Yeah, soldier fortune style. Yeah, so like they'll they'll just get more and more damage as it goes on. And they'll they'll like lose limbs and shit. Some outrageous fucking hyper violence on display. OK, we got to get a move on, actually. So let's let's let's roll into.
Starting point is 02:57:06 Have you heard of gree? I have. I saw this today. This looks awesome. Don't you mean gris? I they don't say it. Did they say the name of the trailer? I'm going to assume with this style of trailer
Starting point is 02:57:16 that it's totally gree. But am I going to fucking get gas coined again? You know what I mean? Is that a new is that the woolly specific term for gas lighting? I assume that the GRIS in this case is the is the word for old is this going on now? It's like since 2015, this has been a thing.
Starting point is 02:57:34 He's really upset about it. I don't know how to pronounce this properly. I'm assuming it's a gree. Yeah, I also would assume that that is that because it's pretentious and French looking. Yes, when I saw it, I thought it was gris. That was my first maybe it's not. Maybe it depends on I'm actually totally with you
Starting point is 02:57:50 on this one. It's the first thing I thought when I saw it. Where's that? OK, here's how we. Where is it from? Where's it from? Well, that's what I was about to say, right? Made it so that the people that made it their name
Starting point is 02:57:59 is it's an it's their first project. It's called you do it. God, I put it down right here. Nomada Studio. OK, and let's allow the animation in this fucking game. Yeah, we should probably just before we even get into the name. It is a beautiful, beautiful, beautiful hand-drawn pencil look.
Starting point is 02:58:21 If only Ubisoft had some sort of art engine that they don't use it. Yeah, so it's a Nomada Studio and I'm looking this up. And this is a this is a platformer like an atmospheric highly artistic, highly atmospheric if we can get a location. Let's see Nomada Studio, probably the most atmospheric looking serious game I've seen in a long time. Barcelona, especially from Devolver. Yep, it says Barcelona right there.
Starting point is 02:58:51 All right. What is it's Spain gray in Spanish? I'm going to assume it's very similar to the Latin. It's gray. There you go. So it is the Spanish pronunciation of gray. So I'm not super sure what the Spanish pronunciation of of gray is. We're going to links here.
Starting point is 02:59:10 But we were closer than Gris. OK, because I mean, it just it can't possibly be Gris, right? That makes sense. These I don't gris. Yeah, I don't speak Spanish. The Google translate says gris. So Greece, Greece, Greece up your pencils. It's great.
Starting point is 02:59:35 Yeah, the article that I saw written about it was like the guy, the the person rotting it said. Rody Nick, the person rotting it. I'm going to take that said I was thinking of Gris like Grissel and great and it was like, yeah, but no, like look at it. It clearly is not that. So it's pronounced goodies, goodies, goodies. Nailed it.
Starting point is 02:59:58 Yeah, let's double check that. How do you double check this? Check that you're going with another source. Oh, you're going with different pronunciation, right? Right here, gris, gris, got it. OK, gris, good gris, gris. Yeah, we got it. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:00:16 OK. That's what it doesn't want another gas coin. That's what it said. Let's see. Yes. I'm looking. What for what? The next new story.
Starting point is 03:00:30 OK, sorry. I thought you were looking for more stuff on that. Let it die is coming to PC. Weird. That's good. Why not? Oh, that's weird. Yeah, free.
Starting point is 03:00:40 Fun. I'll never not be happy. I was wrong when I was like, this thing is going to just bomb. Like I haven't heard anything about it and it went on to do well. So it's free. Like you picked it made its money in its way. I don't want a grasshopper to fail. So yeah.
Starting point is 03:00:57 I went back to it the other day just to see what was up. And yeah, it's it's a bunch of weird shit going on in it. Some some stuff. But for the most part, it's to let it die. And it's still it's a fun game. It's a fun game. I do like it in the end. Just not enough to stick with it all the way through.
Starting point is 03:01:13 Because boy, oh boy. I see an Okami thing there. This was also the week of I bought Okami on my switch and I merely put it down the list so it doesn't show up. So I don't play it. So the vinyl. The whole thing about Okami is supporting it. Dude, I have two unopened copies of Okami.
Starting point is 03:01:31 You're like, yeah, trust me. Is this on the way? Well, no, no, no interest in this. Yeah, interest. It probably is not going to fit on my wall, though. OK. This is there's an Okami vinyl set. And you know what?
Starting point is 03:01:48 That is not the full soundtrack. I promise you it's it's like a hundred tracks for vinyl's fucking records, six songs, a pittance of the full soundtrack. And and and quite frankly, I'll buy it for the art and I'll put it somewhere. Yeah, because that's what I'd be doing. But I need to see a track listing because I need to know if my favorite song is on it.
Starting point is 03:02:17 Taking Kushinata for a ride. It's the best fucking song in the game. That's not everything. Uh, that's it. That's it. No, we're looking at the list here. It's got Kamiki Village, Sayan, aristocratic quarter, Okami, Shiranui, Sakuya's theme and Ryoshima Coast.
Starting point is 03:02:35 Why do they need four discs for fun? No way. That was wrong. Good job. I'm stupid. That was I'm sorry. That was that was the first disc. So control F. Yeah, let's see. Let's see.
Starting point is 03:02:47 Oh. Kushi's choice. Suzano and Kushi's love. It's not there. Oh, no, it's not there. The finals are really will spit on side ABCD FGH, and they are not there. Fucking worthless. And I'm still going to spend my money.
Starting point is 03:03:10 God dammit, Okami. You stupid, beautiful bastard. Why are you the most beautiful thing? Always, always spend money. Always spend money on Okami. Never play Okami. Oh, was it right there and I'm super blind? Let's see.
Starting point is 03:03:26 Let's go back. Yeah. Let me just confirm this. You controlled F. There's nothing else you could do. We're at the word ride. No. Oh, no. No, OK.
Starting point is 03:03:36 It was right there. Right. Control F, ride, not there. All right, we're going to go. I'm going to see this. I'm going to do it. I'm going to verify. Let's see. Prologue, Cave of Nagi, Kamiki Village,
Starting point is 03:03:45 Celestial Breasts, Silence of the Stones, Kirst, She's in the Plains. I was feeling Kirst on a Valley. We're looking. People just fucking. Kirst on planes, Cherry Blossom Shower, Hirami, Sekire's Theme, Sekire's Theme, Forest. Waka appears.
Starting point is 03:04:01 Madame Fawn, Tudoroo. Nope, not on that list. Uh, not on side D. Apparently, the name of the song is actually Kushi's Choice. Is it? Yeah. Oh, is that what? So then why was it named differently on the fucking
Starting point is 03:04:18 multi CD soundtrack? I hope it was. Is it Kushi's Choice? Damn, did they did it? Oh, man, because then that in that case, then I just got I was looking at a completely different named track. I wonder. I wonder.
Starting point is 03:04:36 I can find I'll tell you in a second. No, this is a thousand Kushi's Choice is a thousand percent not the song. Oh, a thousand percent not it. Oh, wow. Nope. Everyone is stupid, but you it's not the song. So yeah, it ain't there.
Starting point is 03:04:54 All right. What's next? We got this ridiculous bullshit in terms of just expensive ass stuff coming out. Fucking Resident Evil 2 typewriter inspired Bluetooth keyboard. Nine hundred dollars. This this Resident Evil special edition shit is getting
Starting point is 03:05:14 nuts, especially since it's only two hundred and fifty dollar keyboard. It is a eighty two thousand yen. Seventy five thousand yen for this keyboard on its own. Yeah, the the keyboard itself is a Kickstarter or Indie Go Go thing. It is a quirky writer S that you can get off of Amazon for two forty nine.
Starting point is 03:05:44 Oh, wow. So that is a branded thing that is not a six hundred and fifty dollar markup for a Capcom logo for a Capcom logo and an umbrella logo. Capcom put a fucking sticker on it. It's really nice. It's really nice. Well, I looked at it.
Starting point is 03:06:01 It was like, oh, I'll check that out. The the real version. One of the most useless things. I'm really sad that the optimist keyboard never came out. Or if it did, I didn't hear about it. Did it cost like nine thousand dollars. Is it the full thing or just the mini one? That's the full thing.
Starting point is 03:06:15 God damn it. Well, I was following the cost of a fucking car. OK, so that was following that story when they were announcing it. And I remember when they made the three key mini one. And it was the optimist three keys. And what it is is a keyboard where each key is a screen and they change according to whatever app you're using.
Starting point is 03:06:34 So yeah, dude, it's in Photoshop. It becomes the keys of like the tools be worth it less. It is. Yeah, I didn't I didn't know they had the full one out. I had stopped tracking it all years ago. I am happy with my my the the fucking razor one with the color change, though. That thing's nice.
Starting point is 03:06:54 And it's and it's mechanical. So anyway, I didn't realize this was a ripoff. Oh, it's a fucking ripoff, man. Very large. Because I got set that on mask is like, Pat, you're stupid enough to buy this. I'm like, I'm not that stupid. Well, the missing is the name of Swarie's new game.
Starting point is 03:07:14 I thought it was. No, ArcSys made a deal with them to publish another project altogether. Oh, OK. So it's a weird atmospheric horror adventure side scroller. OK. So ArcSys is publishing it and it's called The Missing JJ Macfield and the Island of Memories.
Starting point is 03:07:33 That's a long time coming out later this year. There's a lot going on in that. I think a lot going on. White Alice has been working on another game titled A Good Life. So yeah, that's that's what's going on. He's this is his other project, which is yeah, ArcSys. Nothing up really besides that teaser site, huh?
Starting point is 03:07:52 Yeah, and some screenshots. But I like the name The Missing. Yeah, I don't like the name. JJ Macfield and the Island of Memories. I do like it. But I do. I do like the name The Missing a lot. That's a really cool name because he did announce
Starting point is 03:08:05 that he had another project in the works in ArcSystem was publishing it. But this is like the first actual look at it. And it's a coming to everything. And it looks. It looks to be nice. Yeah, it looks. It looks to be not at all like good life in the sense
Starting point is 03:08:19 that like it's a 2D, not 2D. It is a 2D perspective, 2.5D platformer. But is it platforming? Hard to say. It looks like some platforming is happening. It looks like it. I don't even know what I'm looking at in this screen. There's a baby meter or like a doll in the top.
Starting point is 03:08:36 Someone's getting electrocuted by a water and a wire. Yeah, it looks like it's just a 2.5D thing going on. JJ Macfield, I don't know. JJ Macfield is like a little awkward to say. I just I like The Missing as its thing. Yeah. And last but not least, there is another horror project being teased.
Starting point is 03:09:07 Oh, yeah. Is it by Namco? Yep. Bandai Namco has the Summer Horror Project website. Interesting. And they're not a company that makes a ton of survival horror games, are they? The only thing Namco really.
Starting point is 03:09:19 Splatterhouse? Splatterhouse. That's it, right? But this this website is just really kind of freaky. It's just you're staring at this video feed of like a house. And that's it. Like that's all the website is. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:09:36 And that's it. Yeah, I guess it'll be a countdown eventually. It'll be a countdown to something. But yeah. Could be cool. I'm always down, so. You know, I know that the lighting of this website on domas.bn-ent.net.
Starting point is 03:09:52 Yeah. I know that it's meant to be like spooky, but I find this lighting really comforting. Like when it's a sunset, that's kind of like right in that like. I don't feel like orange. That's a bit odd. That orangey dusk kind of feeling. A bit odd.
Starting point is 03:10:05 Yeah, like that orangey dusk's feeling with the sounds of summer and stuff is really relaxing to me. I know what you mean. It reminds me of like times when I lived in a certain neighborhood that like. Sackera's stage in Alpha 2 is what reminds me of that. Not this. This reminds me of like, get out.
Starting point is 03:10:23 You know, like I said, I just, the whole, the whole, it's like an orange sky, but I don't find it that threatening. I don't know. It reminds me of, it reminds me of some stuff that I was. Cut to you being carried away in a helicopter. Spending three seconds in this location. Quit is not in my DNA. Three days.
Starting point is 03:10:41 Yeah. So the website is, it says DOMAS scene. Websites, meta keywords include zombie and horror. But like, like, does D.O.M.A.S. like sound like the acronym for anything? Not to me. Someone might figure it out. I'm sure somewhere in the fucking source code,
Starting point is 03:11:00 there's some, some word. With the date of August 30th, so then something will be revealed. Once upon a time, I remember like, as soon as a website would pop up, I would just right click then go view source code and then just fucking scroll through everything here. What stuff would you do this for? Well, like back when there was like ARGs of like different games
Starting point is 03:11:21 that required you to look into the hidden shit on the source code, exactly. And that's how they figured out like the leaks in Ultimate Marvel and stuff like that. Anyway, folks, if you've got an email, you can send it over to superbestfriendcast at gmail.com. And if it's not awful, I might read it. You'll still read it.
Starting point is 03:11:47 I will read it. But I might read it out again for everybody. It might sound a little something. Like this. Like this. Dear always right cast. Always. I've been listening to the Giant Beast cast
Starting point is 03:12:04 and I've been blown away by their inclusion of a correction section at the end of the podcast. Oh, God. I appreciate their willingness to fact check themselves and be humble about their errors. Do you think more podcast should have correction segments? I know you always joke about fact checking the podcast, but I think it'd be a great addition.
Starting point is 03:12:20 All the best. I guess that'd be up to a lot of shit. I should mention I took that joke from the Giant Bomb cast because Jeff would yell it out when they would start to do this fucking segment. Something about this letter is funny because it's passive aggressive. And it's like, do you think more podcasts should have it?
Starting point is 03:12:37 The question is just. What are some podcasts you think should have them? You know, we make too many factual errors to fact check it in a timely manner. However, I will absolutely say this. If you want to write in with your corrections, just in the subject of the email, write the word correction.
Starting point is 03:12:57 And you know what, maybe we will sometime. Maybe it'll give us a really easy way to sort emails. Yeah, so write the word correction and then your subject. If you want to correct us about things we've said that are wrong or whatever, we will definitely get to it as soon as possible. You should create a sub folder so they all go there.
Starting point is 03:13:18 I think I'll do that. I'll make a filter for corrections. Make a filter right now. It's like, man, I really need to catch up on these corrections that are all in this folder, the hidden away. Yeah, I approve. I think it sounds great.
Starting point is 03:13:30 And then, you know, man, one day segment on the show and then we. It sounds fun because I know a lot of people that are teachers and they go, man, I'm going to be spending all weekend doing corrections. No, it sounds like they're having fun. So I don't know why we wouldn't do it. Yeah, I'd be down.
Starting point is 03:13:48 We got one coming in from Ian. He says, hey, corrections. Super chads have been thinking about the state of popular current multiplayer games. All of them, except for Call of Duty, has moved from one game updated forever models to regular yearly releases. CS, Rainbow Six, Overwatch, Dota 2, Loll, et cetera.
Starting point is 03:14:11 Do you think this is the future of fighting games as well? Will we see a free to play street fighter or Tekken become the standard in a few years? I think it would be in their best interests. That'd be cool. I think they've tried and I think it hasn't. They've experimented with this and other versions of implementing sort of like League of Legends,
Starting point is 03:14:28 but not quite really things into fighting games. We've gotten free fighting games where the roster rotates. We've gotten all kinds of variants and I think it's just the genre itself is not penetrable enough for it to ever be the main thing. I guess street fighter couldn't do it then. I've come to peace with it. I've come to peace with the fact
Starting point is 03:14:51 that it's just a barrier. Some genres of games are welcoming and inviting to the public, to John Q. Public, who walks by and goes, what's this video game? And fighting games, despite the fact that the elements are as simplistic as possible and is easy to understand as possible, that simplicity of understanding what you're looking at,
Starting point is 03:15:13 converted into doing it is just too much. I think you're super wrong because League of Legends and Dota were the biggest games in the world for years and they are the most toxic, anti-new playership imaginable. They're the most labyrinthine, inscrutable, impossible to learn, bullshit filled with assholes and they're the biggest. So then how do you fix it?
Starting point is 03:15:37 How do you fix what? How do you get fighting games into that spot? You actually release one that's free to play. I mean, rotating cast is not it. Or do you mean like full roster? Like what do you explain? No, you may. Expound on that versus the stuff
Starting point is 03:15:54 that's come out that has been free to play. Like killer instinct. You make killer instinct, you put it on the PC and you have a rotating roster of like 40 fighters and you can play one a week for free. And that's all it would take? Well, it can't be killer instinct. No. You just mean a game.
Starting point is 03:16:10 Tekken Revolution. And it needs to be Tekken or it needs to be Street Fighter. So Tekken Revolution. That's a huge failure, wasn't it? It was, but the model with that was free to play, wasn't it? Was it on a PC? I don't think so. And here's another thing, does it run on toasters?
Starting point is 03:16:27 Mm, mm. Ah, I don't think it did. So that's the trick. Because I feel like after seeing these experiments with Tekken Revolution and then there was a Soul Calibur. Not a Soul Calibur. Wasn't there a Dead or Alive one? Yeah, there was another one.
Starting point is 03:16:41 There was another one that wasn't Tekken Revolution that tried this out too. There's a PS3, DOA 5 gave itself away as well at some point. Here's the thing. It can't be Street Fighter 5 goes free to play. Yeah, you know. It has to be Street Fighter 6 is a free to play video game and it is ground up.
Starting point is 03:17:03 And it has to be those names. Yes, absolutely. World combat maybe. Like League of Legends came from nowhere, but it was based on a thing that existed. It was based off Dota. And then Counter Strike was based, you know what I mean? Counter Strike was based off of Counter Strike.
Starting point is 03:17:23 But the original Counter Strike was what engine was it? Half-life, which everyone already had. And yeah, those League games coming from the Worldcraft 3. Fortnite came from actually nothing. Dota came from that. Yeah, so, well, from PUBG, but not really. But yes, so I guess like, is there a fighting game equivalent of that
Starting point is 03:17:44 where it doesn't have to be Street Fighter? It comes from it? With fighting games? Can you do the same thing? What? I guess, but realistically, it has to be Street Fighter. Over the years, there's just been so many attempts at this. And I remember the years of me going like,
Starting point is 03:18:01 no, this is what they need to, and then eventually someone tries it. And it goes, oh, that didn't work. I was like, okay. They need to simplify the control. No, that didn't work. My frustration is that they've never actually tried it. With a big-ass name like Street Fighter or Tekken,
Starting point is 03:18:13 no, they haven't. If Rising Thunder had come out, we would be able to have this conversation. But Rising Thunder is still nothing. Yeah, but it could have been a thing. But we never found out because it didn't come out. Okay, so Tekken Revolution was free to play on PS3. Was it on PC?
Starting point is 03:18:31 No, it was not on PC. It has to be PC and playable on Toaster so that people in Korean and Chinese internet cafes can rock it. But would that mean that, but wouldn't Tekken Revolution still get more of a groundswell than it did if this theory is true? No, I'm fucking PS3.
Starting point is 03:18:46 No, absolutely not. Like, this is not me trying to be like a PC user. No, no, I'm trying to- But like the mass explosion of this stuff is on PC. This is due to that. You get tens of millions of players. Because what I'm trying to think of is like, wouldn't there be like a small explosion
Starting point is 03:19:01 based on it simply coming out and being a free video game? Yeah, but that was just a shitty version of Tekken. It wasn't its own game. Like Tekken Revolution was what, Tekken 6? I think it's Tekken 6. Yeah, which was bad. It was. Right?
Starting point is 03:19:17 It was kind of a Tekken 2. A Tekken 2, actually. It was Tekken 2? It was Tekken 2? Yes. Fine. But it had single, like you could untag, Tekken Revolution, by and large,
Starting point is 03:19:26 a modification of Tekken Tag 2. We're using assets, bound, the mechanics, you're gonna say- Did you have to tag? No, no. Bound has been removed. Movement has been changed.
Starting point is 03:19:37 But the point is, is that without what it was built on, right? And for the first time in the Tekken series, your stats get upgraded. Yeah. Yeah, no! Don't do that! But-
Starting point is 03:19:50 That's poison! But what I'm trying to, but like, do you think these details matter? Absolutely, I think everything matters. Or what, keep it from even building up any sort of momentum or fan base whatsoever? Because I understand, like,
Starting point is 03:20:03 you're talking about how to make the mega hit, right? But I mean, does aspects of this not indicate that having some element such as free to play, not enough for a micro hit? Here's the thing. There is, like when you say these details, it's like they all build up to something and there's a lot here.
Starting point is 03:20:20 One, it's a weird amalgamation of an existing game that is higher quality. That's a problem. Two, it has the stat increase shit. Three, this particular game had the fucking, I think it was pay a quarter to fucking play, token shit? It's Kenjin.
Starting point is 03:20:36 See, in fighters, it's Kenjin. Four, it was on the PS3 of all fucking things, right? These are all things that hurt it. If you want a free to play fighting game to hit it, it has to be its own thing or the next step in a treasured franchise. It has to be either completely new or Street Fighter 6, right? And it has to do everything right.
Starting point is 03:21:00 And then maybe, maybe it could be a hit. And then we could even see if you are right, if it's even possible. No, no, no, so I completely agree with that world of what you're describing. Like, Street Fighter 6 has to look way worse than Street Fighter 5. I completely agree.
Starting point is 03:21:18 And I know that that makes sense when you're firing on all possible cylinders to be hugely appealing to the point of, well, fuck, why don't I just get involved? It's on mobile. Why don't I just fucking play? See, Fortnite's coming up for Android? Of course it is.
Starting point is 03:21:33 Of course it is. Get another 50 million people on it. So at that part, I do understand. What I'm curious about, though, is because we've seen experiments over the years and nothing's really panned out in a way that is built like a following. No one's had the guts to actually just do it.
Starting point is 03:21:51 So that's why I'm wondering, I'm like, does versions of this formula work or is it all or nothing? Well, to look at the actual answer to that question with the existing mega hits, the answer is there is no such thing as a micro hit. There is the explosion or lawbreakers. There's Overwatch or lawbreakers.
Starting point is 03:22:10 There's League of Legends or Demigod. There's Fortnite or Radical Heights. I mean, if you really want to define it, then what they are now is the micro hit. What fighting games are now. Fighting games in general? Yes, I suppose so. The titles we're talking about?
Starting point is 03:22:28 We're talking about Free to Play. Free to Play Monsters. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And this, I don't think I've ever talked to anyone about Tekken Revolution. No, no, that's what I'm saying, is that completely Garfrey failed to garner a following. And the worst part is that I bet you
Starting point is 03:22:43 there's three other better examples or equal examples of Free to Play fighting games that we just don't even remember. The way Killer Instinct released, it was kind of Free to Play, but you could just buy the characters. They didn't fully commit to it. They were like, no, we have to have this just in case.
Starting point is 03:23:00 Cause back then, even what, three, four years ago, Free to Play was still kind of a dirty word. Like you look at Warframe, that's a fucking costume and cosmetic factory. You look at Fortnite. More cosmetics, more. Even the amount of costumes that Street Fighter V characters is not enough.
Starting point is 03:23:20 They're a lot. Yeah, I'm looking at the list of Free to Play games here. I'm opening up a tab for Hawken. I'm gonna open up. Hawken's dead, dude. Yeah, yeah. Age of Conan. Yeah, Age of Conan.
Starting point is 03:23:30 Age of Conan's dead. Right. Diamond Records, JoJo's Bizarre Adventure. Killer Instinct, we're killing this, it's kind of dead. Yeah, it's, it will. Let it die. Let it die. There's a micro hit.
Starting point is 03:23:44 That's a micro hit. That's a micro hit. But the fucking to be a beast, right? To just take over everything. It's gotta be that absolute cross-nexus of like, perfectly appealing, easy to understand, lots of people streaming it. Runs on toasters.
Starting point is 03:23:59 Anyone can play it. Kids are playing it at high school on their phones. And, and... Oh, parents are paying for their kids to get lessons on it, to be good. And then... So, you know why it's a big deal that there needs to be a fighting game one?
Starting point is 03:24:13 Because there isn't one. Everybody, every one of these genres or types of games, you get to have one winner, one runner up, and then everybody else loses. There's no fighting game one. It doesn't exist. I would like to see if, yeah, because I mean, there's all kinds of theories too,
Starting point is 03:24:31 right? I remember when theories were being discussed about like, fighting games feel too bad when you lose, and they feel great when you win, but they're too bad you lose because you don't have a team to blame it on. That's correct. But you don't have a team in, like, PUBG, right?
Starting point is 03:24:44 No, you don't. Or fucking any of those, like, Battle Royale. That's a whole other dynamic to begin with. So, but that, and so, yeah, that's a whole other discussion. Because you don't really lose unless you get 100. Oh. Because what I'm, because I guess... Smash could do it.
Starting point is 03:24:56 Smash could do it. Smash could do it. But if you put a couple more... I think I'll never do it. No, no, of course not. No, but they can. I mean, Nintendo does put out... Smash go.
Starting point is 03:25:04 Games on the phones now, but... Smash Brothers go. Like, you use your phone, walk around, get to a... But if you put a couple more big characters in there, that's as close as you're gonna get. But then there's the community that's established for Smash that's already been... They're gonna be super pissed.
Starting point is 03:25:18 It's already flavored, you know what I mean? The water is already colored. They're already horrible. It's just because... Do you see that motherfucker check his watch during the set? I did not. So, and the thing is that, like, the backstory of this, like, for this discussion in particular,
Starting point is 03:25:37 I was like, let me take... Let me hear what this is, because I've been having this conversation for two decades now. Like, literally... I've been having it with you for about six years. It's been every variation since we've come off the Super Nintendo of like, yo, fighting games should be more popular.
Starting point is 03:25:57 How come they're not? Oh, man. Right? How come they're not? I don't get it. And like, I've gone through all variants of what it could or couldn't be. And like, there's a level of like,
Starting point is 03:26:08 I'm kind of almost just exhausted of trying to think about what it needs to be, because I can tell that a lot of these other people working on these projects have had their own ideas for what it needs to be. And nothing has ever really blown the fuck up, you know? Nothing's ever really hit that. And it's a bit...
Starting point is 03:26:24 It's sad to think that it can't be anything but those two names, because I feel like it can be a brand new name that we've never heard of if it just hits all the right buttons. I don't know if the name Street Fighter or Tekken has to be on that thing. No, but it helps.
Starting point is 03:26:37 It helps. But I just, you know, like, again, was something like, when the fact that like something like League of Legends can come along and out of nowhere be big off of the Dota thing, where you're like, there's no pre-established League of Legends brand
Starting point is 03:26:51 before this thing existed. Like, it just came in. No, it's a Dota rip-off that you don't have to play in the Warcraft III client. So that's what, so I'm saying like a rip-off, AKA a fighting game that is original with its cast can work. That means it would be fucking SNK
Starting point is 03:27:07 making a Street Fighter rip-off that you can play free to play without having to play it in the SF5 client. Like, that's what League of Legends is and was. What I don't know is how much the genre itself gets in the way of that appeal. Well, we'll only find out once the attempt is made. And that's the risk, isn't it?
Starting point is 03:27:25 That's the most interesting part to me is trying to find out how much of this is just what the video game is asking you to do. Fighting game players, though, people like, like even casual or pros, I think it's like everyone gets tired of the old thing eventually. Like, it's been around for so many years.
Starting point is 03:27:39 I want new systems. I want like a new thing. Like, it just seems like we've got to move on eventually. And like- There's definitely no people playing fighting games that stick to decade old games, like crazy little sad people. No, there's none.
Starting point is 03:27:53 None. I mean, I mean, more traditional fighters. You mean normal human beings? Like, is anyone clamoring for a Street Fighter IV tournament and EVO? Probably not. Yeah. Is there?
Starting point is 03:28:07 Yeah, people do. Can you say that again? Sorry, I was- Is anyone clamoring for a Street Fighter IV to come back to the EVO? On the main stage, no, but the side tournament happened. Yeah, the side tournament's for everything, no. I just mean, it's like, I just,
Starting point is 03:28:19 we want the new hype thing every couple of years. Yeah, yeah. But the years prior to 2009, right, EVO in every year before that was about the games that people were mostly into. So CVS II being at EVO 2008 is not a confusing thing. Yeah, I know. Is that if the game gets constantly supported
Starting point is 03:28:43 and updated through the whole process, that dynamic changes a little bit. It does, but- So like, look at Dota or League, for examples, right? Those games are constantly patched and modified and new thing here is added. Yeah, but like, adding a new character can completely change the whole fucking dynamic, right?
Starting point is 03:29:03 Not so much so in fighting games. No. You had one character- Unless that character's like a hard-ass counterpicked at the top tier. Yeah. The end play- You shouldn't be balancing your game like that.
Starting point is 03:29:12 The end place of this discussion over the years to me has eventually just gotten to- Fuck it. Let's just do us, you know? Like, let's just be the community that we are and we'll play for and the people who enjoy these games will come out and we'll just do our thing and not be worried about what we're not.
Starting point is 03:29:33 And yeah, you'll see those numbers on Twitch and you'll see, you know, like, oh, yay, Street Fighter broke Beat Fortnite for the first time when EVO was happening. Cool, that's awesome, but whatever, man. Like, you know, just do your own thing is kind of the end result. That's fucking loser talk.
Starting point is 03:29:50 Yeah, sure. Fuck that. That's where I got to- Fighting games have the ability to be the biggest. That's where we got to, I feel, you know? That's some sad sex shit that I don't want to hear. Well, I mean, do I- I don't have control over the Street Fighter brand.
Starting point is 03:30:04 Don't you? You know, I mean, like, as much as it would be like, hey, Capcom, go do this and light the world on fire, it's like they're figuring their own shit out, you know? But I definitely- Hey, you took a big fucking risk with Monster Hearn, you made a shit zillion dollars. Do it again with Street Fighter.
Starting point is 03:30:16 Do it now. Season four of Street Fighter is Street Fighter 6. Oh, fucking free play, go. Done. Congrats, I saved the internet. What if it tanks and they lose all the money in the world? I don't care. Oh, okay, just checking.
Starting point is 03:30:30 All right. I guess they'll lose a bunch of money. I guess that's the end of the discussion. I guess they'll get fucked. What should have made a better free to play fighting game? What's what's what's going on? Well, first, maybe for what's going on, thank you to the 13,000 for your unwavering support.
Starting point is 03:30:48 That was a that hashtag fucking got great. I'm happy. Lots of fun fan art. That was really fun. Like Willie said, the fun has been defeated. And you know what I was thinking? What were you thinking? I was thinking that the playlist for the Tokyo Mara
Starting point is 03:31:06 sessions should we should have like just an edited version of episodes one to 20, replace episodes one to 20 and then just make it like fucking start here. An easy way to do it is also just combine the first two episodes together and just make it 10 episodes. Just cut the fucking trim the fat and leave you with nothing but lean, lean, lean. My go lean.
Starting point is 03:31:29 Cow. Cow. I should tie cow. I should tie. So yeah, that finished up. Matt, Matt Kawashitai. Yeah, so that finished up. Everything else I believe is you guys are starting something new.
Starting point is 03:31:43 Did that go up yet? All right, I don't think it did. Unless it went up right now. Unless it went up like an hour ago. I don't think it did. But let's let's check that out real quick. I can check real quick. Let's check that out.
Starting point is 03:31:53 No, it did not. Already five went up. So that'll continue. Now that'll continue. We're getting there, though. Yeah, we're slowly realized, man, already five, not as good as you expected once you get to the second half. That's the first two hours.
Starting point is 03:32:06 Super fun. I can't remember anything that she ever says. That's fine. She's like, Chris. Come on. Come on. Tokyo Marash Sessions is over. She repeats a lot of things back to people
Starting point is 03:32:19 with a questioning tone. Yeah. Tokyo Marash Sessions is over. It is going to be replaced with something that Matt and I will play. Tokyo Marash Sessions, second gig. I've heard that all day. It's like, what's beyond the horse?
Starting point is 03:32:37 We only did everything in the game. Wally, I'm sorry you took the horse out of the stable for people to beat. We didn't kill the fucking New Game Plus boss, which is the last boss with Harder Life. Oh, yeah. Exciting. That's it.
Starting point is 03:32:50 That's all it is. Yeah, and we didn't see the awful fucking team up between. Apparently, did you see how lucky people were on that fight? Someone said that. Someone said they were just like crazy on that. Yeah, but I was so like fucking overleveled. Like, it wasn't going to be a problem. I don't get it, I'm sure.
Starting point is 03:33:03 I think I know. So yeah, we have two new things coming up. Two new things coming. Pat and I are playing a thing. Matt and I are playing a thing. Should we not say what they are so that people can get excited? In advance or just let it pop?
Starting point is 03:33:19 OK. You know, it doesn't even matter because the amount of people that hear it by the time it pops, people just. One of the things. It's a pop anyway, so. I hope you and I, fuck. You try it, I fucked up. Yeah, Pat and I are going to be.
Starting point is 03:33:34 Should we just say it? Yeah, say it. All right, we're playing the Banner Shack. Advertise the shit. We're playing the Banner Saga. Absolutely not. The first one. It's like Oregon Trail, but with tactics.
Starting point is 03:33:44 And we're going to see how that goes. I saw the art. It's really high quality. Yeah. It's real good. Yeah, that artist is great. I look a little weird though, but hey, that's my head. That's what happens.
Starting point is 03:33:52 That's what I got. Yeah, let's do it. Good length, good tactics. Good girth. Good story, good characters. And I'm not going to backseat tactics you as we play. Good voices. No, no, that's clear that you're not,
Starting point is 03:34:08 because mistakes are being made. Yeah, I'm going to just let you do what you do. You do you. And you and I might as well, we're playing The Room. I didn't even know that. Hi, Mark. Oh, hi, Willie. I don't know what to expect of this game at all.
Starting point is 03:34:23 No, we're playing the Tom Holtz Stamper Made The Room tribute game. I don't even know what the fuck that is. How is this a real game? It's a real game. It's a short one, but it's a real game. Then we're going to have to play something real after that. Oh, yeah, we will.
Starting point is 03:34:38 All right. Marlowe Briggs. Yeah. So we'll have two like quickie LPs. It's all coming. It's all coming. There we go. And I mean, if we're opening the bag up and just fucking
Starting point is 03:35:01 talking about it, then let's just go. So obviously, I just finished Hollow Knight. And I was talking to Pat about, we were like, OK, so how do we make this make sense, right? How do we make this work? Pat, play sitting down and playing Hollow Knight would be an interesting thing. Here's the question.
Starting point is 03:35:16 Would it be interesting 40 parts in? Would it be interesting 60 parts in when you couldn't tell the difference between episode 30 and episode 31? Yeah. Or works really 37 and 41. Right. So the thing about Hollow Knight is that. That happens with Metroidvania.
Starting point is 03:35:36 Yeah. And there's a lot of wandering one end of the map to the other to get the new thing. And then you wander back, right? And this is a really good game that benefits more so from extended sessions as opposed to regular chunks, right, like daily chunks or so. Like four to six hour chunks.
Starting point is 03:35:54 So as much as I know people love the game and want to see it, I think they'd rather see it in a different type of format. That's correct. Like just you don't want half an hour episodes of Hollow Knight. I know you think you want them, but I promise you you don't. We had this really bizarre series of conversations in which Willie was like, let's do it. And then the next time I spoke to him, I don't know.
Starting point is 03:36:17 And then I went and talked to some friends of mine who had played the game and they were like, I don't know. And I came back and with the feedback, he was like, oh, I don't know. And then that just continued for like two weeks until it was like, let's do better. So that's what that was. And you know, the rest is obvious.
Starting point is 03:36:40 But yeah, I just, as like I really think it's like. By the way, I've been reminded that Double Man Cry comes out in a few months. Yeah, it does. We might want to look at that after that something. I mean, that that comes out and like the other re-release comes out and wait, which other re-release? Mari too.
Starting point is 03:36:56 Oh, I mean, OK, we can't open up the whole bag, but we can open up most of it because we just said like four things. Oh, man. That's the most we've ever said. Get ready for the red. Because there's a thing we have after because we have the thing after we have that's that's going into part 200.
Starting point is 03:37:16 We have the thing after Marlo Briggs and then we have the thing after that. Yeah, right. I don't know the thing after that. Well, there's also that retro thing that I want to play with you. You know, you know the ones. I know one thing after Marlo Briggs. You know, Dante's Inferno and Tony Hawk's Underground too.
Starting point is 03:37:32 Yeah, I don't know about Dante's Inferno. OK, well, you know, I played through it again. I'm like, I backed out. OK, well, it just because it's you love Double Man Cry so much. But like, what about killing like the 12th wave of just goats? Yeah, guess what? It sucks.
Starting point is 03:37:48 Also censoring the big penis monster might be trouble, troublesome. Who knows? And like, you know, nipple spiders. Yeah. And who knows if something's going to happen with Onimusha. So we know like we maybe. They keep Capcom's trademark department keeps fucking with us.
Starting point is 03:38:01 But if they don't or do, we don't know. But it would be cool to go back and do it because I'd love to see what that's about. So, you know, Onimusha collection. That's always up in the air. The actor issue is so like is so like late. Yeah. That should have been last gen.
Starting point is 03:38:16 It should have easily have come out on the PS3 and 360 last time. Yeah, I'm sure that's the only reason. But no, we got to use a bunch of real people. Look, at some point, we were obviously going to sit down and do Snake Eater. The only question is when? When we're all about to die.
Starting point is 03:38:28 Whenever it just makes sense to just fucking sit down and do it. So I don't know. We'll see. But obviously, it's on the table, you know. And there you go. Anything else? Sir is Wrath. I mean, that's one that you.
Starting point is 03:38:39 That's one. But they don't want to see it. You mean the first four or five parts of that that we recorded three years ago and then had to fucking throw in the garbage because we lost all the audio. No, the people who want to see us play Sir is Wrath want to see us like see it and like it.
Starting point is 03:38:51 They don't want to see us play it. And that won't happen. And then at some point, the Arkham Asylum thing is probably there because you guys said I really should check that out. That's that's money for you on the table. Yeah, so you know, it's free money. That's free money state.
Starting point is 03:39:05 There you go. So that's what that's that's what it's all about. Yakuza. Any reason not to do the Yakuza games? Depends which one. There's a lot and they're all coming out. Like you need you need a long breath before you start a new one.
Starting point is 03:39:16 I still need to finish five if we want to tackle six. Yeah, yeah. OK, at this point, might as well just if we were going to do a new one, you know what doesn't have any of that baggage that fucking fist in the North Star one. No baggage there. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:39:28 I mean, look, guys, that's coming out in English. How crazy is that? Guys, Neo is amazing, but that you can't help. Oh, fuck. You can't help me that. You're crazy. If you think you can help me that's ridiculous. That's absurd.
Starting point is 03:39:37 No story content that fuck. It's just tons and tons of hard. And the levels repeat. Yeah, those are amazing games that are home games. Come on, guys, don't be. Don't be absurd. That's crazy. Don't do that.
Starting point is 03:39:46 You know, and that's another part 80 when the fuck is going to end like, oh my god, it's awful. Like you can't do that, guys. You know, it's not reasonable. But yeah, man. Anyway, so there you go. That's it. That's it.
Starting point is 03:39:54 That's the whole bag. Yeah, that's the whole bag that is currently dead exists. That's that that is in flux. Just fucking dump it out there and plus red dead. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Which are what do you mean?
Starting point is 03:40:06 People want. What are you crazy people want me and you to play with your one bad one? OK, the ghetto jank fuck game for weirdos. Oh my god. And you know what I tell them every time? That's a ghetto fuck jank game for weirdos. Maybe.
Starting point is 03:40:23 Bug will be about it. Look, look, look, the takeaway is that as much as like took him raw sessions was fucking. It was a rough thing to do to the channel. And I'm super glad that it turned into a fuck ton of fun. And it became, like I said, lemonade. You know what I mean? Like we got shit out of that and it ended hilarious and great
Starting point is 03:40:47 and like a good time. But it still doesn't change the fact that it was a fucking mistake and you can't take that away. Long obscure game. And it's a game that people didn't want, right? Like they didn't want the creation of it to be like it was. So if we didn't get fun out of that, it would have been ultra despair girls.
Starting point is 03:41:02 But that didn't happen, right? So I'm glad. Yeah. And that made me confident at the very least. I'm like, you know what? I think we've gotten better at like carrying a game that might not do it, you know what I mean? Because I feel like we had to really carry, but it worked.
Starting point is 03:41:16 It didn't turn into ultra despair sessions, which ironically is a fantastic name for a video series. Yes, that's true. So, you know, all that to say that like we're trying to not make that happen again. And furthermore, even when it's high, even when people love what they're watching, there's still people that are like,
Starting point is 03:41:36 I don't want to watch Star Wars for 90 episodes. Guys, I don't. I'm not into that. And you're like, you know what? That's fair. That's fine. That's a lot of Star Wars to put on somebody. And most people did enjoy that.
Starting point is 03:41:45 So you got to make, you got to make. I feel happy with that. Critical. I do too. But I definitely understand the people that are like, I don't care for this. And that's a long time. So you got to really make smart decisions.
Starting point is 03:41:56 Now that we are just wracked with anxiety over game choices. Yeah. Get ready for some short ones over the next month or two. Thank you for fucking wording it because I was trying to get so aware of it. And I don't know where it was going. We're so fucked up over game choices, you guys. We're anxious.
Starting point is 03:42:16 And it's weird. We're a mess. Here's the thing. It's a mess. The choice isn't as big of a deal if the game's only 10 hours long. Oh my god. Good or bad, it's gone in 10 hours.
Starting point is 03:42:29 God Hand absolutely had the potential to be the same exact fucking thing as Tokyo Mara Sessions. People going, what the fuck is this? I don't care, right? It wasn't. But even if it was, we did that in two weeks. So when I look at the Hollow Knight clock and I see it said 38 hours and I go,
Starting point is 03:42:46 that's not even going to be 38 in two weeks, right? It's going to be 50. Well, here's the thing. Add two hours, call it 40 for dicking around on fucking whatever. Bug dicking. And then call that half an hour episodes. You're looking at 80 immediately with not wasted time.
Starting point is 03:43:05 Cut 10 for, you know, some scoops. But then add five because you don't want to be just like, go here, go here, go here, go here, go here, right? Do you like episode 64 of Hollow Knight? He runs through the place. Still in the high of trying to find the bug. Anxiety. Huge, huge, big anxieties.
Starting point is 03:43:29 Huge, big anxieties. Oh, man, hard. Hey. I like going behind the curtain sometimes. I do. It makes you feel good. Well, it brings an element of humanity to this completely artificial business.
Starting point is 03:43:39 I can't open up the curtain and say, everyone, look at the gross shit that's back here. You don't know what's back here? You don't know? This is therapy right now. This is therapy. Straight up. Yeah, we've talked about sleeping dogs for a really long time.
Starting point is 03:43:54 That's also super long. It's very long, and there's a lot of downtime in the middle of sleeping dogs. It starts great, but then it goes into mid-nothing. We're going to do a little bit of short games until shit's normal, probably. Until our anxiety goes down. Dude, I'd take that.
Starting point is 03:44:08 That'll never happen. I have a secret for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I have a secret for everybody else here. Persona 5, guess what? It was good that we had that. I'm going to just cancel that. Let's just fucking say it.
Starting point is 03:44:24 It's very good. Dodge the fucking bullet. Oh, boy. Dodge the bullet. Or did we? Dead. Super dead. Or did we?
Starting point is 03:44:33 Persona 5, 80 episodes in, would have been a weird place to be. Or did we? Yes, we did. Sorry. It's real. Hey, so what's going up on Wally versus a place where there's no anxiety?
Starting point is 03:44:53 I'm going to record more near with Liam tomorrow. And then I didn't record more Naruto yet, because I'm waiting on. New headbands coming. Yes. Yes. Yes. I'm glad we got here.
Starting point is 03:45:11 Yes. I'm waiting on exactly. I'm literally waiting on new headbands. It's weird that an LP can be stopped by props. By the physical items required. And I decided to swap up the subject matter of my Kirby video for another thing. So another different Kirby thing?
Starting point is 03:45:33 A different, yeah, for another Kirby thing. I said, instead of going straight into this, let's go into that first. So I'm swerving. And that'll be up soon. I'm working with Moth and stuff, and we're seeing where things are coming. But that's Wally versus.
Starting point is 03:45:46 I'm glad. I hope that works out well. Yep. What curtains? What curtains? What's a curtain? It's just all slid open spots over here. That's all it is.
Starting point is 03:45:56 Hey, Matt, on your Twitter, there's a countdown. Oh, there is. What the fuck? Friday. OK. That's all I'll say. OK. Where is that?
Starting point is 03:46:06 Where you go look at? At the Matt and Muscle's Foie Palace on YouTube. Show up on Friday. Is there a time? Friday. Just Friday. Friday. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 03:46:16 You putting the curtain back up. Yep. You don't get to see this until you're ready. The curtain's sharp, though. Yeah. Very sharp. It's a sharp curtain. Cut my finger on it.
Starting point is 03:46:26 No. Iron curtain, almost. No. No? No. OK. And it's going on over there. Over at, you know, it's unfortunate
Starting point is 03:46:37 that there are some people that are invariably going to be disappointed at some of the things we've talked about today in regards to LPs. Welcome to the podcast. Or what not. It's therapeutic. Off the chest, all of it. But over at twitch.tv slash angriestpat,
Starting point is 03:46:53 where I do my shitty streams, I'm going to start on Hollow Knight this week. As we discussed it, and it's like, that game works a lot better in that format where you can just shit all over for 10 hours. So look forward to that. And I am leveling up my amp right now in Warframe specifically to do the sacrifice.
Starting point is 03:47:18 So I will get on that as soon as I can. And that's it. Well, actually, I got to do Chains of Hero first. But Chains of Hero, there's a quest in that game called Final Apostasy Prologue. It's like a fucking Kingdom Hearts title. And then sacrifice. So hopefully, by the weekend, but who knows?
Starting point is 03:47:38 Who knows? Yeah, we talked about Doom. Of course we talked about Doom. We did talk about Doom. But the reason why we didn't talk, we didn't. It's a similar reason to Hollow Knight, but it's much shorter. So I was like, you guys should do Bioshock,
Starting point is 03:47:49 even if you both play it. I was like, that seems like a good idea. And we were like, better than Doom. I could. I could revisit Bioshock. Because Doom is just a lot of shooting and wandering. Bioshock has a lot of that in the middle of it too. And then me and you talked about the possibility
Starting point is 03:48:06 of actually doing a Mass Effect game. But that has logistical problems, which is, which one do you start? You have to start at one. As soon as you start at one, then you get the Kotor problem times a million. Yeah, I'm not. Forever.
Starting point is 03:48:20 I'm not doing three. So you have to. Well, then we're not doing one. Also, and also, the stuff we'd want to jump into now, at least, would be stuff where I'm off the controller for once, because I've been on the controller a lot. You've played a lot of games. So I wouldn't jump into something where it's like,
Starting point is 03:48:36 I want to experience it. So that's what I used to. So yeah, man, that's fucking it. Goodbye, Curtin. That's all of it. That's literally every discussion we've had in the past, like two months about the future. And there's definitely been discussions
Starting point is 03:48:49 beyond that earlier from long ago for things that we just. Hatred. Well, I have a I have a question for you. Yeah. What what time is the shitstorm this year? October. What? Why would the answer? That was my favorite.
Starting point is 03:49:06 Why would the answer not be October? That was my favorite fucking tweet response I've ever seen. Is there any possible version? And he's bugging you of reality. You're in two of a hundred and forty shitstorm videos. I think woolly knows. I've been I've it's the most confusing it's ever been. Guys, we'll see you later.
Starting point is 03:49:24 Have a good day. Everybody have a good day.

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