Castle Super Beast - SBFC 260: The Queer Eye is just a Gay Sharingan

Episode Date: August 21, 2018

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Starting point is 00:01:02 We got a real hum der for you today. What? Voibles. There's a PSA even. But my humdinger. Well, I mean, you know, for the audio podcast, that is the audio podcast, that is this podcast. You won't notice anything other than the loud noise of woolly sweating at a certain period. It's quite fine, but...
Starting point is 00:01:20 Very loud. If you happen to be watching us over at twitch.tv slash super best friends play... Which you should go check at your earliest convenience. Yeah, we don't seem to have... But not right now though. We don't seem to have any control over when it's going up and down right now. So we're just gonna try to podcast and hope that the stream doesn't blow our shit up. Hey, you wanna have a funny story?
Starting point is 00:01:42 You wanna hear a funny story about how I almost killed the podcast two weeks ago? Okay. Okay. So you know how, like, we all set up different things for the office and you told me to set up the internet. Okay. And remember how my credit card got fucked up a little while ago? Oh.
Starting point is 00:01:57 I forgot to actually call Videotron to fix that until the morning of the podcast two weeks ago. Oh, geez. So what? The internet was just jittery or...? No. They almost cut off our internet. Because I feel...
Starting point is 00:02:10 Because I didn't pay them? Wow. Please don't do that. I feel when you're late on a payment that the internet goes down more to, like, fuck with you. No. Like, they, like, little, like, flick a switch up and down a little bit to make it go slower, to make it go, oh shit, I gotta pay.
Starting point is 00:02:24 I talked to a guy on the phone and he's like, we would have sent a letter, dude. We weren't going to just cut it off. Damn. Um, it might, if it makes it easier, we can just, we can go headphones off for this, for this podcast just because that, that, boodadoo, might be... Oh, I thought he'd never say that. Oh, man. It might be easier to just not have to deal with that.
Starting point is 00:02:42 So I haven't... Next to how Woolie makes us take off our pants. Well, I don't, I don't, these things are driving me crazy. You keep talking like that, you know. To be fair, I don't use the headphones at all. I've gotten pretty used to eating the microphone and not eating the microphone for effect. And I know everybody knows that Matt loves, like, you can accentuate something by going big and loud, but to the side.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Yeah. Yeah, it works. Like when you're really going to lose it. But it just feels like we're in an, like, in an analog world now. Now that I'm hearing sounds for real and not... You can process them. Now that you're hearing sounds for real. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Like digital lies. Matt, the vile blader. Yes. Speaking of taking pants off. Vile. Vio. It's vio. It's dumber and it's not a word.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Yeah, because it's like... Vile? No, vio. It's like the vile later, but the vile blader. Vile blader. Oh, I thought it was vile. No, and it's fine too, but that's too, like... It's not edgy enough.
Starting point is 00:03:41 That's not... I think it's extra edgy, but that's just me. Yeah, but it's not made up. Vile is a word. But his, his blade is, his blade is, is, is forbidden. Well, we know he used to say bio a lot, like bio goo and bio ooze. It's just like a more edgy version of bio. So yes.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Yeah, that's not going to get corrected. No. Speaking of taking pants off. Yes. How was your weekend? I went to the Pride Parade yesterday, so that got pretty close to fans again, taking off stuff. We're about 15 minutes late, missed everyone I wanted to see, including Justin Trudeau.
Starting point is 00:04:20 And Anthony, who is from Montreal, who's on the Queer Eye Show, who's like the, the, the wine and cheese food man. Is the Queer Eye like a sharingan for gay people? Book that. Is there some sort of like rainbow eye sigil that appears and you just like call it open and then you can scan somebody top to bottom and see like, I know exactly what we need to fix with you. And you're a kayfabe thing?
Starting point is 00:04:50 Yes. Absolutely. Absolutely. What that's what it is. But in shoot on the show is just the eye of common sense of looking at someone that hasn't moved out of their parents house ago. You need to move out. What the fuck are you doing?
Starting point is 00:05:02 Like that's all it does. Yeah. Okay. It's hard to get laid in your mom's two rooms over, dude. You got to go. Or in the room. Oh no. In the case of one of the.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Okay. So. You only need level one to tell somebody, hey, get the fuck up and move out of your house. Yeah. Like, can we quaff that hair? Right. Can we get that belt buckle showing tell he played a bunch of Naruto over the weekend.
Starting point is 00:05:23 I touched zero Naruto. Oh, this is just, this is just raw. This is what we, when you talk about it, mother fucker, mother fucker, how about this? When you talk about super eye powers, what else are you going to go to? Yeah. Superman's eye lasers. Eye lasers. That's.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Yeah. Hanada. Hanada. From what series? Not from as eye powers. Find another franchise. Go. Eye powers.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Nowhere. Fuck off. Fuck off. Jojo. Star Platinum. Yeah. Eye sight. That's such a stretch.
Starting point is 00:05:55 What about, what about finger? What about another one bites the dust? He's got eye powers by a matter of, but when you talk about eye powers, the brain goes straight to one place. Y'all can eat shit. Obviously. Y'all can eat shit on that one. I also think of Superman shooting lasers.
Starting point is 00:06:10 Fuck you. It's the most obvious joke. If anything, I should be getting blasted for how obvious that joke was. Soul sacrifice. Eat shit. You pull your eye out. Eat shit. You had your moment and then that 10 seconds you got nothing.
Starting point is 00:06:23 Fucking hold it. Let's go. Sharon Gann. Queer eye. Let's do it. So yeah, I missed all these people. We were like 10 minutes late. Then we're just, it's not like René Lavec.
Starting point is 00:06:31 It's hard to miss, but we're just late because we boosted up too hard at a bottomless Mimosa place. So, um, and then the evening was culminating watching the gayest movie of all time, Terminator. We just wound up watching Terminator. Okay. I thought you were going to say the bird cage or some shit. Because our mutual friend Chris has never seen Terminator. Oh, fuck, why?
Starting point is 00:06:54 Simon has. Of course. Because we went to that double bill of Robocop and Terminator that one time because it's like, I don't, the Terminators, I don't, what do they do? I'm like, we'll just give it a go. And then I watch. I don't want another tip. I want to say I've actually probably watched Terminator one, maybe a few more times than
Starting point is 00:07:12 Terminator two, but simply because it's shorter. And it's a lot shorter, isn't it? Not a lot. It's a lot. But I mean, T2 is like two. Two and a half hours. Two and a half hours. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:23 But like Terminator one is like almost two. But there's a weird part that I didn't recognize is that like, if you remember, Lance Henriksen is in that movie. I don't remember. He's the detective that just is in it at the start. It doesn't really do anything when the, when Arnold comes into the police station, blows everyone away. He's in there and gets a few shots.
Starting point is 00:07:41 But in the start, he's a funny character. Lance Henriksen is making jokes in a movie. Old movies. It's very strange to me. Old movies have that problem, quote unquote, problem of like random background extras being people that you know today. Like Vince Vaughn was in tons of dramatic movies early on in his career. He was in Cell with Jennifer Lopez.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Yeah. Right before he teamed up with Wow, man. The other thing is whenever a child actors show up and it's like, Oh, that child grew up to be fucking someone else famous too. You know, like it's a thing when you go back in time, I still get like anybody over under a certain age will not understand this. But I still get weirded out and confused when I see a movie poster or trailer is starring Dakota Fanning and go, Oh, it's that little kid from the world, the world's like 25.
Starting point is 00:08:35 I just watched her in that series. The alien nest and she's like in her late 20s now and I'm like, but I'm younger than you Christian. No, but I'm not a treasure Island kid, apparently I did not know that fucking. That's good. Like it's always a weird thing and you're like that guy sounds a lot like Zuko or like Samwise Gamgee was in the Goonies. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Okay. Yeah. Oh, lots of people were. Those Goonie kids all grew up to the fucking outsiders, outsiders, the outsiders, everybody, everybody get in. That was that was a big one. And I remember watching that in like elementary two and being just like, well, at the time it was a million years ago, so you didn't really know you knew some, but like it ended
Starting point is 00:09:22 up just being an all star cast in the future. You know, speaking of all star cast, I talked to you about this a little bit a few weeks ago. Disenchantment, Matt Groening's new animated saw it listed on Netflix. Didn't watch it yet. Yeah. I finished it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:38 10 episodes. Very easy watch. So this is. Are you familiar with Pat? No. Fantasy. Got it. Dungeons and Dragons.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Got it. Kingdoms. Matt Groening is like, we did the present. We did the future. Fair enough. Time to go back. This is the New York Mutant Timeline. No.
Starting point is 00:09:54 Time to do the Flintstones. We've already done. I was under the impression this takes place in the Futurama universe. It feels a lot like Futurama. No, like it takes place after Fry gets frozen and then the aliens wreck the earth. And then this show happens and then they've built it up. I don't think so. There's no.
Starting point is 00:10:10 I don't think there's any like actual links to that yet in all the episodes I watched. But it does feel a lot like Futurama. It's very fast paced. There's a lot of like crazy world jokes rather than the Simpsons is always like we're in a kooky neighborhood and that's it, you know, our kooky city. I really enjoyed it. The first season is weird and it's called part one. It's not called season one, which I feel like they already have most of this planned out
Starting point is 00:10:36 and done something. OK, but it's a whole narrative arc. The first 10 episodes, there's a running theme. But the problem is, sometimes for like 80 percent of one episode, they'll drop that theme and just have a bunch of random Zany adventures. Is it actually in the past or is it like a D&D party playing a game? It's no, it's not a D&D. You're thinking of that Futurama movie where they were in a D&D party.
Starting point is 00:11:00 This is actually in a fantasy setting. But it's yeah. OK. On top of New York. There's a gag early on and I'm like, that's pretty good. And they're like, well, what's everyone doing? What's everyone looking at? And there's a parade and they're like, well, remember how we just had eating and sleeping
Starting point is 00:11:16 and starving? Now there's a third thing. Entertainment. What? And they all start watching. Everyone's like, hey, everyone's new. OK. So like there's court gestures and whatever.
Starting point is 00:11:29 But like everyone from Futurama, John DiMaggio, evil drunk king, not drunk king, actually, he's strangely not drunk. He actually admonishes the main character of his his daughter, Princess Tia Beanie, or just being for short. The girl on the cover. We're on the cover and she's a drunken mess because she hates being a princess and wants to just get drunk all the time. So speaking of that, it's a lot more, I wouldn't say lewd, but it's a lot more
Starting point is 00:11:56 risky than Simpsons or Futurama ever were. They're like, we're taking drugs this episode. OK, well, straight to Netflix. No Fox involved this time. Right. And there's beheadings. There's it's a party of three characters, Beanie, a demon on her shoulder, played by Eric Andre, which is weird to hear. Fun. And OK.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Is it played by the actor who plays Eric Andre or is it played by Eric Andre? It's played by the actor that plays Eric. But there's a bit of Eric because he's because his task is to tell her to do evil shit because he's assigned to her. So he's like, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it. OK, OK, you can either hire Tracy Morgan or hire Tracy Jordan. Or you yeah, or you can or you can pay Tracy Morgan to hang around your set while you're filming.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Yeah, and see what happens. Right. That doesn't work as well with an animated feature. No, but if you're going to animate it afterwards, you can figure it out. 80 percent of this character is the actor that plays. OK, they're not paying Eric Andre to hang around. Did I send you that weird photo of the confirmation of Eric Andre season four? No, because some dudes on D.C. were just hanging out and fucking Kraft Punk is walking around with a camera
Starting point is 00:13:12 crew. Wow, OK, it's coming back. Or Kraft Punk. But much like Futurama season one, it takes a little while, like it's just kind of fighting it, finding its footing. And I'm like, yeah, this first episode and it really picks up around episode four. And then it actually the plot kind of kicks off. And there's some decent character development there. And like, whoa, didn't expect that.
Starting point is 00:13:33 But there were no absolute belly laughs. No instant classics just yet. No instant. There were some jokes I'm like, like, you know, the like the jokes from like, that's really good. Yeah. But I didn't laugh. OK, OK, there's a couple like there's this animal. All right, really, really early on, just as an example,
Starting point is 00:13:51 they go into a Shannon Forest and it says like a Shannon Forest. And much like Futurama or some since there's a little sign underneath in Shannon Forest and it says, beware the racist antelope. And then that's it. And they go in the forest and the plot kicks off and then the scene is done in the forest and then just you hear clop, clop, clop. And this antelope walks in and looks at two people go, that ain't right. And just walks off.
Starting point is 00:14:17 I'm like, oh, it came back. So do not expect that to come. So does it seem like the kind of thing that because, you know, with Futurama and the Simpsons over the course of time, amazing moments arrive, but it needs that breadth. The way this was set up, I feel like it's they have two, maybe three seasons plan and that's like they're just the way that this I'm just going by the way this is set up, at least on a cliffhanger thing.
Starting point is 00:14:42 And Matt Grinning's used to long form comedy, long form comedy. So this is different. Yeah. The main produce, one of the main producers of Futurama is David X Cohen. I didn't see his name anywhere, but the producers that are there are Bill, Bill Oakley and Josh Weinstein, who, if you know those names, they're responsible for the the greatest seasons of the Simpsons ever, like one to six or whatever.
Starting point is 00:15:11 We can skip like one. Yeah. Sorry, maybe it's two to six. I don't know exactly that those are the names. I'm like, if you think of the absolute bangers throughout history, like they're usually in around there. But I enjoyed it overall. There was like some things I'm like, that didn't hit that didn't hit.
Starting point is 00:15:26 But whatever, it's still fun. And I guess the only thing I really played is it's the one DLC. We didn't play from the evil within one, the executioner. Yeah. Where it's a first person. The one that Liam actually said was a lot of fun. Yeah. But kind of removed from the context of the game changes the game completely.
Starting point is 00:15:46 Yeah, because it's the first person thing with execution kills. Yeah. And you're a bad ass. He picked it up and he pretty much was like, even if you don't play, I try this thing. So I finished it and I actually really enjoyed it. It does get a little repetitive, as you think. And of course, that's the one we did not scary at all.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Well, how could it be? Because you're the you're the guy. You're the boss. You're the safe. Yeah, you're the guy. So but it was still really like you can level up your shit and get multiple weapons. And one thing I won't say who but a character comes back in that. And I was like, that's really good.
Starting point is 00:16:17 That's the reason to play this. So I'll leave it at that. But it's really enjoyable. And a lot of work got done on the takeover this weekend, where I finally got Yuzo Koshiro's track in the game on Steam. So that was a big moment and that game is content complete. But unfortunately, much like I talked to a combat core at the Evo, he's like, it's going to it takes takes a time to get a get away these games through the switch.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Get it. Get a rag. Get your mouth and spit shine that until it's shiny and gross. At a point, you have to stop. Yeah, you have to. Until it, you know, gets. I did see that that like haphazard collection of screenshots of just like, you know, this game looks very pretty. And I was like, it does.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Yeah, there's a lot of effects and things. A lot of yeah. A lot of a lot of sparks, a lot of sparks going on, but no sigils. No, wait, wait, no, that would be nonsensical. Unless it was in one character. Yes, the one weirdo, the one fucking Kenan, it's a fighter shop that fucking blaze blue screenshot again. Always.
Starting point is 00:17:32 I don't think there are any shots, though. No, but there were bars. I mean, to be honest, like cross tag battle and unionists go places there. Like you've got little pips on diamonds next to your super meter. And it's just like, don't don't lie. If it had been a few years later, you could totally do a fighter at PD episode where the parody game is Sigil fighter. Sigil fighter. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Where there never is a limb thrown. It's just bars and meter on top of meter, unlocking new bars. A lot of ego, a lot of a lot of little hand waves and but never a also a lot of talking. Each a lot of samples. Each groove gives you a different set of bars that as the route will sacrifice three of your most important bars to get the final bar.
Starting point is 00:18:29 Maybe it depends on the match. But that was me this weekend. Right on. Pat. Oh, man. Before we get too far away, eight hours of it for any of those old people who want to think of something funny like we were just talking about of like, nobody's in the background. Go fucking watch the intro to taxi that has fucking Judd Hirsch as the goddamn huge star power is like also starring Christopher Lloyd
Starting point is 00:18:58 and Danny DeVito and Andy Kaufman. Yeah, I guess. Kaufman showed us sort of whatever. Yeah. No, no, no. Hey, Judd Hirsch, guys, great. But just just as a as a as a testament to the time it came from. It's it's fucking weird. Yeah. It's really fucking weird. So yeah, you want to talk about Hall Night? OK, let's talk about how many hours was that?
Starting point is 00:19:18 That was a eight hour thing because I just want nine to five. OK, so it's a job, almost. So Hall Night's the best. Woolly already talked about all of that. So I don't really think there's anything need to go into other than Hall Night's the best. However, the game does have a bunch of weird things that I'm grappling with. And the number one of which is how much the game fucking hates me personally.
Starting point is 00:19:44 For the method in which I explore games or a method, method. OK, better the second time around method. No, it I explore games in a spiral. I try and grid out a whole floor and then go back when I reach the end of that floor before continuing onwards to grid out the second half of that floor. Like a sheet of graph paper, right? Yeah, it hates me so much. That has caused me to end because this entire zone on the west side of the map, the failed tramway is actually only three rooms and just exists
Starting point is 00:20:22 to have a big power up that I missed because I'll explore that zone later. OK, I try. I'll try and explore all that. Oh, well, no, there's the sun. Like I had a real issue in that I would go up until one room away from a movement upgrade and then go now I'm done exploring this part of the area. Time to backtrack and like over and over and over again, which led to me encountering an area called the deep hive.
Starting point is 00:20:55 Yeah, with just the wall jump. Yeah, and falling all the way to the absolute bottom pit. Yeah, and having to climb out with just the wall jump, not even the dash. That's crazy. Now, the thing is, because you're that problem is it's a logical one because like I have it go until it stops you with the hall wagon, right? That whole bit is based on like break it up into there's doors and then there's holes that lead to other rooms without doors, deep nest, not deep
Starting point is 00:21:24 hive. So and when you do it, like you're kind of trying to just like funnel and wrap your head around this area before exploring somewhere else, right? But the problem is in a game like this, you need to use that method. You need a concept of hard progress. Yeah, and this game doesn't have that. No, it doesn't. It's the only progress is I got a new power ability or power or attack, right? And there's times where I mean, you talked about being in Queen Station
Starting point is 00:21:55 and then getting into the area near Queen Station. Yeah. And then you should have at some point hit an actual wall of you can't do this. So the second area that I ran into in the game, which I imagine is going to be the second area most people run into in the game is Green Path. It's very easily accessible. There's nothing that stops you from going there. That thing not only has like explicit bread coming. There is a character literally running away from you to a location,
Starting point is 00:22:20 but it also has like three or four just completely fucking impassable areas. This area is way too far to go without some kind of new jump. This area when you look at the map, it's like there's clearly more space to go left. But I can't do it. A shit ton of areas don't have as well defined stops. Yeah. So there's a there's an area called Crystal Peak. Yes, where you get to the end on the right. Wow, you got there, huh? Wow. OK, I got a lot of places on the end of the other night.
Starting point is 00:22:57 I got to the bottom under the city. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the bottom under that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The bottom under that. And you see, OK, now, how much of what I was trying to convey to you makes sense now? Yeah, a lot. OK. Because the issue that I had was that I got to the end of Crystal Peak, which is a relatively late game area, apparently, I don't know. And I got to a big fucking pit that I knew I wouldn't be able to get back up
Starting point is 00:23:24 out of the same way I came and the color palette changed and went, OK, well, I got to go finish exploring the top of Crystal Peak, which at the time I don't actually understand that I can't reach and ignore this drop to an area that I don't know and I won't be, which has the biggest upgrade in the whole game behind it that I missed for 10 hours afterwards as a result. That's a really important upgrade. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I you wouldn't believe the places I went with almost nothing.
Starting point is 00:23:53 OK, OK, almost nothing. OK, I had I had a gameplay loop because of the spiral. I went to maybe 15 zones with nothing with actually nothing. So here's just the wall jump and then got this one, this one, this one, this one, this one, this one, this one, this one, this one within the span of 40 minutes. Now, here's the question. As a Metroidvania, there's always that level of intended exploration. But one thing that that you're supposed to, I guess, use as a marker is bosses.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Yeah, which I have found very few total. OK. Yeah, right. So I it's just so thinking when you when you should have zaged, you know, I think this game's look and its history have painted it in a light that is not as accurate because the more I play it, I'm like, there's clearly a lot of love for Metroid here. That is so obvious, right? You drop down the hole and then to your left, there's that little square
Starting point is 00:24:55 that has the little bug rolling around it on all four directions. That's a Metroid, right? Yeah, the way you get abilities and some of the really specific abilities you get. That's a Metroid and it looks 2D and you explore like it's a Castlevania. But more than that. And I know this is the thing that to make fun of because it's the article. This is closer to Dark Souls than as to Metroid, like in terms of area progression and opening things up and locations.
Starting point is 00:25:25 And like the one thing that I would say that makes me feel that the most is the method in which the map fills out. The map fills out in a you enter a new area and you sit at your bench. You fill in the map and what do you get? You get a big square with no detail inside it at all. And that's the description of that area. I disagree with that. I think this is way more Metroid than anything Dark Souls.
Starting point is 00:25:48 The most Dark Souls thing about it is the fact that getting into a new area, you'll hit something and it'll be like, no. And then you'll swing on it for a couple and then it'll be like, yeah, that's one of many enemies in this area. That should be an indicator of time to turn around, right? I don't know. I very much disagree. But I feel like in terms of getting around the map, a lot of the Metroid thing of you get the thing that opens
Starting point is 00:26:11 not that kind of door, but it lets you pass this kind of obstacle, right? And the kinds of obstacles I'm not even going to get into because there's some that you don't even know are obstacles right now. That's right. You know, and and once you get the ability to get around those things, you'll see them as, oh, that's just a missile door. That's a super bomb door. That's what that was.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Well, I mean, I I I feel very much that that progression is actually even still like that. In particular, one of the upgrades directly mirrors a Dark Souls 2 item to unlock new types of areas in a way that I'm pretty sure Metroid never did. And I don't know, like the tone and the types of locations that you're going to see. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. There is an actual Anor Londo in this game, right?
Starting point is 00:26:59 Bugs and swords and knights and an old Valor. Aesthetically, it's like I only played the game two hours, but I always got the like, yeah, they love Metroid and they clearly love souls games, too, because a lot of the atmosphere and aesthetics kind of mirror pick up your souls on death, get your currency back, even when you enter a new area. Just the vast majority of items that I'm picking up are directly related to like character power and equipment
Starting point is 00:27:22 rather than movement. Yeah, but you're again, you're not really changing your. Well, again, it's it's it's definitely doing a lot of its own thing. And it's and it's it heavily likes both games. But I feel there's more Metroid in it than there is souls. Personally, I feel a lot. But I feel I feel weird about it because I don't like Metroid and thus feel no Metroid in this game, almost all.
Starting point is 00:27:45 I feel a shit zillion Castlevania. Well, at the same time, I don't think you've touched anything besides Super Metroid. I touched Metroid, Super Metroid. I played all prime games and those are great. But like you only touch those, the, you know, so I mean, there's there's more to everyone's like Super Metroid, it's a great scheme of all time. And I go back and I don't like this.
Starting point is 00:28:04 The things that Fusion does changes the loop a bit, you know, you get you get you get used to a different sort of man. I suppose. But but in any case, I don't know if this is what do you feel? What do I feel? Well, based on what we'll now based on the thought of like how that eight hours went, yeah, that's eight plus two earlier. So that's a session two.
Starting point is 00:28:25 So no, that's session three. OK, twenty five in. Right. Now, what do you think about the LP version of that? The worst, the worst ever. The worst at a random half hour out of the middle of that is blind. Metroidvania will always be a nightmare. It's especially I think how without massive hip guiding, especially the way that I was playing it, which was let's take the tram, for example,
Starting point is 00:28:51 because there's a three room area that gives you a little pass that opens up some subways. Yep. A drive fell through deep, deep nests. Get it all did all that shit. That would have been an episode. That would have been fun. Right. Get to the underground failed tramway. That's two. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Then go left. And I'll leave this till later. Don't get back there for in LP time. Actually, one month of real time when all I had to do was go two rooms over. OK. Someone would have found and stabbed me for this. The yeah. So there already is extra hours on the clock just based on that.
Starting point is 00:29:33 Oh, yeah. The other thing, too, as you were talking that comes to mind, because it's like besides the tram is another souls, souls ask thing, of course, to make the comparison is finding your bonfire. Right. Find your bench and find your station. Your occasional liar bench. Yeah. Well, yeah. But find your find your bench and find your stag station is the new find.
Starting point is 00:29:54 I can't I can't think of anything more depressing because this is actually super rare in Souls games that you find a bonfire equivalent that is just smashed to pieces and unusable and unrepairable. Right. And it goes, well, you might have had one here, but somebody wrecked it. And fuck off, go find a different one. But I will say the combination of boss difficulty, walls that tells you no and finding benches are were enough for me to get my bearings and for the most part
Starting point is 00:30:22 feel like I'm exploring in a manner that is somewhat intended. Also running into a map making buddy. Yeah. You know, I think I think the wildest thing that I've ran into the whole game so far is oh, I accidentally happened to swing my nail and hit this wall and it crumbled. Oh, in some in some tiny little bullshit corner, you got that hours in. No, I got that. I got a bunch of those.
Starting point is 00:30:56 OK, I thought I thought you were saying you went through a lot of the game and then finally opened up the wall and went, oh, my God, all the other walls. Like I check for hidden walls. There are hidden walls in the game. That's clear. I found that out. Good. Yeah, OK. What I'm referring to is a hidden wall in the ceiling of a bad jump or the hidden wall in the one I'm thinking of that's really outrageous in a jumpable wall over a pit that I don't know how the fuck you're supposed
Starting point is 00:31:25 to find out that things there or oh, in this tiny little corridor in this path, you'll hit this and this leads to an entire sequence with a boss fight. And it's like the map will give you clues. I could have so easily never seen that staring at the map will give you clues when there's a space like the realm of space of nothing. Yeah. When you're or when you're looking at the walls of the room on the map and you're seeing a break, you're like, well, that's a path to something, right? But the actual discovery process.
Starting point is 00:31:54 And in some cases, you're like, so you're not you're right now you're in a place where there is no such thing as hard progress. Eventually, there is such a thing as I spoke to a guy and I have some pips on my map. And I'm pretty sure those pips on my map are hard progress. So that so that happens, right? And then once that happens, you now are on a line and the game won't move until you until I address go to those lines and go do those three now.
Starting point is 00:32:24 So the best thing that I can say about any game of this type is that I'll pick up an upgrade and go. I didn't know that this type of thing could be in a game like this. In particular, there's one upgrade that's really, really wildly out of nowhere. Which one? I read the wild. The one that gives you more information about everything around you. The why button.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Yes, yes. Well, OK, wow, you so that, OK, no, woolly. Fucking spiral here. OK, like that's the eight hour one. That's a late game button. Is it because I look back and I see how much earlier I could have gotten it. That's a late game button. Yeah, yeah, yeah, probably the weirdest thing.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Like, because I'm used to thinking of souls, Metroid and Castlevania all have the same thing of this area is gated because you can't do the wall jump. There's no way to get up there because you can't do the wall jump, right? But not this game. This game goes well, you can't get in from the West if you don't have the wall jump. But if you hard ask your way all the way through the bottom and all the way over the right and all the way up that it's actually it's not that it's a late game button, as much as it is, I thought I was near the end when I got it.
Starting point is 00:33:53 And then there was a and then the couch kept moving. I also thought I was near the end and the couch kept moving back. And then I fell into so that's not true. Then I fell into six more zones in half an hour because I got to that. Did you get the did you get the walk into a zone walk out? Yeah, just not now. I can't. There's I can't right now. There's there's there's one particular people who watch the stream.
Starting point is 00:34:20 So there's one particular tram ride that you can take in which you go West and you're like, nah, and then you go down, you're like, nah, and then you go East. You're like, huh? No, then you go up and you're like, oh, it's the bottom of this shit hole. So then you take the tram East again and you go, I don't know where this is. I don't even know where I pick one. Fucker, pick one and just start to that game. You enter into a zone and your icon disappears off the map.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Oh, it's gone because just it's figure it out. It's that game's great. Exploration, exploration. But yeah, streaming, got to stream it. Where is that only on PC and switch? I mean, no, I think it's on at least I think it's on everything. I don't know. I saw it on Xbox. Let's find out.
Starting point is 00:35:10 But it's it's a fantastic fucking game. And it really does like yeah, like it's like you take a fucking half an hour chunk out of the middle of that stream anywhere and it's just probably not unwatchable, but goddamn, annoying after a while. Switch, Mac OS, Windows, Linux. Wow, OK. Wow, I thought I. And I I'm very happy at the time that I chose to start playing this because that God, Master, by the way, it's God, God, Master, God, Master,
Starting point is 00:35:39 it God's in glory was taken by some mobile shit. Um, they're like, ah, it's going to add a bunch of bosses and a bunch of shit. And, you know, did you look down the feature list of what that shit adds? What else multiplayer? Oh, fuck. Like like, like four player co-op. Oh, my God. For the whole game. Oh, my God. And New Game Plus.
Starting point is 00:36:04 Sure. And. Surprise, I wasn't there to start with. Oh, wow. Bosses are not even now. It's just Guacamelee. Yeah. Yeah. Four player. Holy shit, Hollow Knight. That's fucking crazy.
Starting point is 00:36:16 And that's fucking nuts. Oh, wow. It's really impressive. And then I found out, I don't know how I miss this, that it is a Kickstarter game. Yeah. Yeah. Well, did you did you find the room? No. Oh, that. So when Willie said, I, hey, it was a Kickstarter game, like, let me let me I remember him talking about finding a room that was the Kickstarter game.
Starting point is 00:36:39 But then upon playing it, the idea that it was a Kickstarter game kind of floated away. But did you see what I was talking about? I have not found it. You get the why button. I have not found the particular room you were describing. OK, it's OK. Well, yeah. Anyway. Yeah, that's a good game.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Shout out to Team Cherry. They're not stopping. Is that their first game? I don't know. But they clearly are shovel nighting it. And. Oh, yeah. Hey, shout out to Team Cherry for the most effective dickhead NPC in a game ever. I don't know who you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:37:19 The guy that talks like that. No. Oh, well, there's a bigger dickhead than whoever you're talking about. Oh, yeah. Yeah. OK. Wait. I don't. It's possible you never encountered the dickhead I'm describing. Is it a DLC thing? Maybe. Nope.
Starting point is 00:37:35 But it's something that only triggers once you do a certain series of actions. Hmm. I don't know. There's a really huge dickhead that's intended to be a dickhead. I'm going to. I'm going to. I don't know if you've met him yet. I'm going to message you on Twitter right now. You know what? I'm just going to.
Starting point is 00:37:53 OK, anyway, so I'm just going to make looking at Team Cherry's. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's that's that's the worst. That's not the worst. Well, wow, that was pretty bad. That was that was pretty bad. Yeah, there's an annoying there is a piece of shit in this game, but that is far from the biggest piece of shit. Team Cherry is an Australian studio
Starting point is 00:38:16 publisher of the game Hollow Knight and yeah, it looks like it is their first team. It looks like it is. Yeah, there's a bigger dick, dude. OK, don't you worry. That's a girl. I can also see now. I spoke to a friend of mine at length about this, who's also been playing the game. I can I now very much understand your feeling of is this DLC? Unclear, um, because a lot of it's just integrated.
Starting point is 00:38:44 So I looked, I looked at a friend of mine. It's like those areas were not even called out in the DLCs that they came as a part of. They weren't even included onto your existing complete map with a little question mark or a little like undrawn line. They were just added and some of them are hidden. There's one that I found where I'm like, that's the DLC. That guy over there, that's a DLC guy. And I was right, but there's a very there's a yeah, there's a really obvious one.
Starting point is 00:39:16 And the upper left of the map, yeah, there's a guy lying on the ground. It's like, I'm dressed like a DLC character. And you're like, OK, OK, that guy, but the rest, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was going to say, I guess the one other thing I was wondering is, you said you didn't touch a ton of bosses. I have touched very few bosses. I think I want to say four or five total nuts, including one that it was 100 percent.
Starting point is 00:39:41 You just zigged all the places you should have zagged to get those, I guess. But you fought Virgil. Yeah. OK. Who? Virgil. Wow. That's the best Virgil in a while. It's a really strong one. That's a really good one. Yep. Yep. Yep.
Starting point is 00:39:56 I'm and then after that, someone said, oh, I wonder when her DLC campaign is going to come out. And I was like, oh, man, that's I didn't even think of playable. That'd be completely different. And then I looked at the press release, they put out so they'll be completely different abilities top to bottom. Every single time that would be so fun, just in terms of movement. Wow, that'd be nice.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Yeah, you know why? Because it's going to be buying a commando. Yeah. Yeah. That's right on. Right on. Yeah, that's the best game I've played in a long time. I don't know if it counts as something that I did, but I just finished watching like right before the start of the podcast. Nvidia's God awful fucking Gamescom show where they're announcing their new video
Starting point is 00:40:42 cards and they did something that is probably the most disingenuous thing I've seen forever. Really? Before you go, I just want to say it's like I'm never going to be at a spot in my life where I'm like, they're announcing the new cards. They're like, if you feel or into that, like more power to you. It's like it makes the video games look better. It sure does, but it's not a video game. No, but that's like it could be anything.
Starting point is 00:41:11 It's like, hey, this can expansion pack makes it better expansion pack. You know, it's like Nintendo is announcing the new expansion pack. Now, the game is always a more exciting thing than the hardware announcement, but well, unless you're a crazy person and love your hardware and making, but I love my hardware because of the game. Well, yeah, but like I like their games right now that I can't run at the settings I want. So I want a new card so I don't know what the new card is going to cost and what it can do even with consoles, though, if they show us a console,
Starting point is 00:41:38 it's like, I don't care. Yeah, you never wear a gear head for it. But like even if it has good specs and I know what I at least I know like a little like, yeah, those are good specs, but I'm like, if they just have a rotating Xbox, whatever, a PS5, I'm like, I don't give a shit. Well, I mean, like again, as someone who's like built my shit, you know, like I definitely understand like the excitement. I just buy it's not excitement.
Starting point is 00:42:03 It's I want a new card. I want to know how much they cost and what they do. But I guess I just mean, if there's something you're running that you can't run at the settings you want, I assume you would just get the thing that would make it run at the settings you want. That's correct. So eventually the but you need to know when that's coming out. What costs very rarely, very rarely these days.
Starting point is 00:42:26 I mean, I guess there was a time when it would be more often, but very rarely these days, I feel, are they making settings that are now outside of the realm of what you can actually really is released. Right. Would it remember when they used to have game games where it's like this super setting is totally that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about kicking up the resolution and the frame rate and keeping all of the settings at their highest.
Starting point is 00:42:47 It's really similar to a guy getting really hype when they announce a new car. Yes. I was like, he's like, I want to go at this speed and be able to turn this way and having the acceleration be like this. I can I can crank a little bit and my engine is currently a beast, but I can get a little bit more out of that. Right. For the space, for the weight, I can do if I inject the blood of legendary creatures into the car.
Starting point is 00:43:12 I can surely go, I should mention that there are actual experiences of games that come out that run like shit at the gate because they require too much juice. One of those right now is Monster Hunter on PC. It requires too much. I have Jurassic Park trespass. I have about as high end of a PC as you can get from before this shit. And I am kind of sad at the way Monster Hunter runs on my rig because because it's buggy and it needs to be patched.
Starting point is 00:43:40 But the the final thing I want to say, the reason why that thing was bad, they spend nearly three hours talking about those features that you turn off when you go into options. As soon as he's the instant you go in. Hey, you know, hey, you want to play Witcher? Oh, man. Oh, the game defaulted to making Geralt's hair really flowy. Turn that off. Turn that off.
Starting point is 00:44:04 Right. And this is like, look, there's this new technology we invented for shadows. We're going to spend two hours talking about it, even though it's going to be the first thing you turn off in every game you play. So this is why it costs 10 FPS. This is why I made the show so shitty. No, what made this show so shitty is you get to the end and they show you the performance chart and the performance chart is just a big lie. It is a big statistical lie because they're like, we need to figure out a new way
Starting point is 00:44:29 of measuring performance so they invent a new term on stage for performance. Then they measure how much faster the new cards are compared to the old ones. In terms of the new performance, this thing is 10 times, 20 times stronger than the old card. In terms of RTX ray flops. This is the new term. I forget the fucking thing.
Starting point is 00:44:55 It's a total nonsense. And it's like, I want it. Performa. Right. And it's like. Max out the performa of your car when doing this type of operation. It's a hundred times faster and you're like, but it's not. How much faster is it? No, no, really, though.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Is it a video? Yeah. Is it are they being controlled by a mirage? No, they have no clearly. Garniff has got his new hands in the G force fucking shit. My problem is I want that G force experience to just go back to the simple thing it used to be. The more we and further we go into this world of like you want to get to shadow play, you have to go through our social media experience that is G force.
Starting point is 00:45:40 Well, the there is a genuinely really useful thing about G force experience. And that's, you know, that part where you hit optimize your game. Yeah, and it done auto does that's really useful when you accidentally fuck up your setting so bad you can't get to the options menu anymore. OK, like you set your resolution either so high or so low or some bullshit that when you turn the game on, you can't find the option. You know, when the game just explodes out past the edge of your screen and you can't and you can't set your save like it's easier to just go into that and click a
Starting point is 00:46:11 button and send it back to like 10. OK, that's useful. But I still hate the fucking like, OK, sign in with your Facebook and Google to just get to your. No, don't sign in with your face of all. Don't do that. Literally signing with both, but it's like no button works until you signed in. No, make a throw away.
Starting point is 00:46:27 I know, I know. But I'm like, step one of me trying to use my video card settings should not be sign in, right? That's already a horseshit thing that they're fucking throwing in. And then and then the fact that like shadow play was then it's unavailable, actually, because you get the installer off of their website. And the thing that you install off of their website is just the basic shit. Yeah, it's that it's only when you go and you do the fucking
Starting point is 00:46:55 the full internal update that you get that you get shadow play back and what not. And I'm like, why don't you just make the exe that I download from your website the final the most up to date version and call it a day? Like it's just getting more and more up its own ass with these settings and shit. And it's like, what happened to fucking right click? Go to shadow play and just set your set. You sound like an old man. It's really they're attacking on so much unnecessary bullshit.
Starting point is 00:47:21 It's really stupid. I find for like video card settings, I don't need all that. No, you don't for GeForce experience. No, and in fact, like improved user control is often completely outside of that program through like display settings and that shit, right? That that whole thing that you just like. That is for people that don't know what we're talking about right now. Like me, that that is for.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Yeah, you know what? Honestly, that's for Matt. Matt gets a new video card and goes, I want to I want for night to look good. Boop. Well, I mean, sure. I mean, use another game. But yeah, whatever. No, for night. Yeah, for night. But it's but it's not even from a like, I don't know what's going on anymore.
Starting point is 00:48:05 As much as a like, I know what you're doing and I hate it. And what you had before was a simple menu that was settings that I needed. Well, that menu continues to exist. And it's the only reason you deal with it. Well, the only reason you have to deal with GeForce experience is because you use Shadow Play, which immediately puts you outside of the realm of most consumers. I mean, no, I was actually having I was troubleshooting an issue just this weekend because just now this yeah, because the the fucking for some reason,
Starting point is 00:48:34 the end video audio drivers on my computer are causing it to sound like a demon is talking. That's awesome. Really? Yeah. Isn't isn't that good? That's a bug I want to reproduce. So every once in a while, while listening to audio on anything, it's. Don't let your mom over. Sounds like it's your real head. It's fucking weird and gassy.
Starting point is 00:48:55 That's cool. And yeah. And I'm like, I'm blessed. And I'm fucking around in my device manager. And then like, anytime I'm doing something in there, it's fine. And I'm playing, you know, updating, I'm trying different drivers out and whatnot. And then I'm fucking jumping over to the GeForce experience to fuck around there. And anytime I have to do anything in that thing, it's just a piece of shit now. And I remember when I first had to do it like three video cards ago and it was
Starting point is 00:49:16 and it wasn't even remotely that close to an annoying thing. Like we've already established I'm far stupider and far like my needs are much more basic. One side of your dumber, man. I'd say you're on interest. No, no, no, let me finish. Then you'll agree with me. My needs are a lot more basic. Well, tell me when NVIDIA announces that their cards will be shipping in big,
Starting point is 00:49:36 dumb boxes with stupid heroes on the front with a laser gun and every get all those characters I want all of those I still have some of those discs, didn't they? Yeah, but I still have that with voodoo and shit. Yeah, but I still have some of those discs with the characters on the NVIDIA ship this shit and that bar. I'd get a new card every week. Here's the special edition. Collect them all new fucking Vioblader cover of your video card.
Starting point is 00:50:03 I can't believe you got so excited for that video card. But if video cards were amiibos, yeah, if they had little amiibos of fucking razor whip and boob titties, well, I'll tell you, it definitely isn't on the box anymore. And there's no CDs because who the fuck is doing that. But it lives on in the installer because when you click on the installer, it'll pop up and the image will still pop up and you'll get one of those render fucking characters in there.
Starting point is 00:50:31 You know, goto. There's always this guy that looks like Garrett from like feet. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they're still in there. They exist. Yeah, absolutely. I'll tell you what though. Accelerator card heroes, dude, even though like all that shit is above your fucking like caring and understanding, I've gotten to the place to where having done and like built
Starting point is 00:50:54 my shit. I can say design these characters. I don't know. I don't want to do it anymore. So I have gotten to a place of like, yeah, all that pride means nothing. I'm just going to buy a complete thing, you know, like, especially when you could just click, click, click, click, click and ship it. Oh, it's the same thing.
Starting point is 00:51:10 They announced a sixty eight thousand dollar console. Yeah, sure. Now, what is it? What is console? What is it? It's a PC that's three thousand easy payments of nineteen ninety five. You know, there's some fun and pride to be taken from being in the garage, working on the old fucking car and it's on blocks and you're putting the legs together and you've
Starting point is 00:51:29 got grease. You know, in preparation for getting a new card, I went in and cleaned the whole thing out and then move some of my hard drive cages around and felt like, yeah, I move. I removed that extra hard drive cage I didn't need. All it really amounts to nowadays is when something breaks, instead of just grabbing it and taking it down to the shop. I know I can open it up and do a little troubleshooting first before that. But before I give up, I need the guts of another dream cast to fix.
Starting point is 00:51:57 Always got to got to mix with that potential meter, man. It's the only thing that'll keep the city. So how many gene cast does it need to fix this computer? Seven. That's where I capped out. That's good. I had six. I said, I thought I was done.
Starting point is 00:52:09 And then I had a working sixth and then someone came into my old work and was like, yo, I'm selling a dream cast. I'm like, fuck you up. Taking it. I just bought a new coffee table. You know, it just became habit after a point. Who gives a shit? Let me think.
Starting point is 00:52:23 The console doesn't do anything. What does it do? Played Warframe, but there's nothing new with Warframe. Does it run crisis? No, it can't. Do you want to hear something about can it run crisis? You know why that's such a question for so long? And it's about crisis and not crisis.
Starting point is 00:52:39 Any of it's crisis is because crisis is so badly optimized that nothing can ever run crisis. Well, it's crisis fault. It's crisis is fault. Yeah, crisis on crisis is actually happening with Monster Hunter right now. The Monster Hunter PC port, you like people dive into it and they look like, huh, because the story is, is that basically the the devs for Monster Hunter were really honest.
Starting point is 00:53:00 They're like, listen, we don't know how to make PC game. And the people who would do this at Capcom are doing DMC and RE2 because those are more important. I guess. And we'll learn how to do it. And then it comes out that it's like, oh, Monster Hunter divides the CPU into 32 different tasks. Oh, when you do your fucking end task and you look at the list, is it just no?
Starting point is 00:53:28 It just creates 32 different threads, even though no one really has a processor over eight cores. And then that then your processor just chokes on it. Yeah. And and various other little things of like, why would anyone do this? Oh, because they don't understand non-static architecture. These are people that have been working on 3DS's for like a decade. And then they took one step out of that world into the world of fucking
Starting point is 00:53:57 they're like, well, we don't know. We don't know how many cores they're brought. How we just split everything into its own task, right? Oh, it's it's weird. That's apparently getting a bug fixed either to dare tomorrow. I've I've dealt. I've now dived deep into when is this game getting a patch? Let me check the Steam database to see if the QA patch went through
Starting point is 00:54:22 in the goddamn like database update. It did. It did. It'll be out this week, probably. Thank God, DMC for special edition was the training wheels, PC version that they fucking got to like brush up their current current gen skills on. But compared to like the last ones and whatnot, because that poor fine. Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:54:44 Fantastic. Oh, and and that is not as good as the original version, however. But it's a good sign that five on PC early is not going to be too much of a problem. Fingers crossed, you know. Hopefully, if it's the same fucking people, right? Here's that being said, it feels more at home playing on a PlayStation console. Just use PlayStation controller. Change the icons.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Then you fool yourself. But it feels like it belongs on the PS4. I mean, back in the day, no, it sounds like it belongs on the PS1. Hey, yeah, back in the day, PC game boxes were obnoxiously huge. And the art would therefore be obnoxiously huge. And that's why my favorite version of Metal Gear Solid is the PC one. My I got that giant. That's also why I marked out at some convention where someone gave us
Starting point is 00:55:32 to remember the PC version of Street Fighter 2. Yes, huge black box, huge art of Blanca. It's the equivalent of a vinyl. Fuck awesome. Yeah, you just get a nice piece of art with that shit. I did have the PC buying experience was God, what year was this? 2000 and this is 1999. It was I remember my favorite box shape.
Starting point is 00:55:54 The one that I bought was the Warcraft 3 expansion because it was the size of a large book, but it wasn't the giant. Oh, yeah, I know the size. I know what you're talking about. And it wasn't a fucking jewel case, the blizzard size. Yeah, the blizzard. Was that just buzzard? I mean, it's the one I reckon I identify with them
Starting point is 00:56:09 because all their games are about six and a half to six to eight inches tall. And it had the book in it, and then you would open up the front and it would be like hard, good cardboard stock. And it would be glossy on the other fucker. You want to talk about formats, the fucking box for MechWarrior to back in the day, MechWarrior with the fucking I've ever seen it. The mad cat on the cover. And then you had the bumps because it was like not only good card stock,
Starting point is 00:56:35 but it had the imprint of the mad cat mech with the fire in the background. It was and you open that shit up and it was smooth. It's all digital now. You can't know it had this shiny font on it. And then when they came out with Ghost Bears legacy, they continued the same sort of trend as well. It's just because the closest you can get is if there's a big release, it's like, get this red ugly Spider-Man PS4.
Starting point is 00:56:55 No, also, I don't have a PS4. Yeah, if I want Spider-Man, that's for people that obviously don't have a PS4. But like, I just go, Spider-Man. If I play it digitally, make like paint my CD red. I don't know, like Maximum Carnage. Maximum Carnage is the spread. I still remember the Max Carnage case to this day because it had that big ugly red cartridge.
Starting point is 00:57:18 I mean, it was ugly like Doom or a side of red cartridge. That's ugly. The Mech Warrior 2 box. I remember this art. Yeah. So like the fucking the mad cat on the cover was like embossed, right? You could feel it and then like it's straight in it. And it had like the gloss on it and stuff like that. And then it was straight up like was like a booklet that you would open out and see the inside cover as well.
Starting point is 00:57:39 And this is like 92. Oh, God. Let's say it's 92. I like how the fucking fire explosion, the background looks like the dumb cheese explosions from Mighty Number Nine. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's Mech Warrior 2's box is classic. And then they did the same thing for the expansion pack and then mercenaries as well.
Starting point is 00:57:56 They just continue to try that because it's all quality boxes, y'all. That's what PC games were back in the day. And it was huge. It was like you're paying a premium price on premium hardware, but you felt like you got a premium thing when you picked it up off the fucking shell. Yeah, just don't worry about what happens when you open the box and pull a little sleeve out, you know. And super, don't worry about when you get at home.
Starting point is 00:58:16 And despite the fact you meet the recommended specs, you don't have some obscure Microsoft driver that never got released over the Internet just so the game doesn't work. So it doesn't work. I remember when Sons of Liberty came out as well, there was two versions they sold was the CD version and the DVD version. And like if you picked up the CD version, you got, I think, like eight CDs of installing to do.
Starting point is 00:58:39 Because, you know, like, well, like alone in the dark on floppy disk, it's like disc one of 27. I remember back in the day. It's like, just I remember talking to a friend of mine who laughed at me because I got the CD version of World of Warcraft. So it took all day to install. Yeah, yeah. And they had the DVD version of World of Warcraft and they were they were in there. I don't know how late the floppy game went,
Starting point is 00:59:00 but they were putting out boxes with, again, above 25 to 30 floppies to fucking install one after the other. That's awesome. Yeah, to get your to get your not even alone in the dark, but like your fucking Phantasmagoria. Oh, yeah, an FMV game. It would be like no, an FMV game couldn't even go on a fucking floppy disk. Or maybe it was a bunch of CDs, though, Gabriel Knight.
Starting point is 00:59:29 Some something along those lines, something along those lines, where I'm thinking of just like a noxious amount of discs. And it's yeah, that's all day. You're not doing anything else this afternoon. Fuck you, you're sitting and installing discs. And if you walk away, you're going to come back to waiting for the next disk. So it's going to take longer. They're going to bring back Gabriel Knight, but then it's Kickstarter or whatever.
Starting point is 00:59:49 Like fucking failed, I think. Let me check. No, it's cool. And the only thing to note is that I finally, because the second season is coming quite soon, I finally got around to watching that four episode Castlevania series over on the Netflix. Yeah, that's pretty good. Only downside, I guess, is that you get I would have felt really bad
Starting point is 01:00:09 if I got to the end of that without knowing there was a second season coming because it ends and goes the most. Now we're off to go do the plot. Because we didn't do shit today. The voice actors are just new folks. So I don't recognize the guy that plays Trevor Belmont. Do you not see it? No. Oh, it's great. You should. Yeah. No, I know.
Starting point is 01:00:31 No, he was talking about he's going to have plans. The guy that plays Trevor Belmont is the played Thorne Oakenshield in the Hobbit movies like to the main battle. OK, but like Robbie Belgrade is isn't fucking coming in for Alucard, I imagine. I think because if so, that'd be great. There's a real there's a real sense of pacing to this of we only have four episodes.
Starting point is 01:00:57 So there's no reason to hurry this stuff along. So like first episode one, Dracula introduced episode one, five minutes later. Good reason for Dracula to be mad. Episode one. Yeah, it is a good reason. Right. Ten minutes in. Castlevania start now. Like just absolutely no waste of time of at any point.
Starting point is 01:01:21 Dracula is played by Graham McTavish, who played Dante in Dante's Inferno game. And he was also that super badass, pissed off British soldier in Rambo for the one that was like just swearing like a sailor and was bald. He's like he definitely plays that up in this. Animation quality is great. Voice acting was great.
Starting point is 01:01:42 The best thing Konami ever does now is let other people use the stuff. Use their license. And it's very clear that people who made this really care a lot about at the very least, Castlevania III, because all the little details like there's a there's a throwaway two second shot of I have to throw something to cut this rope, you know, the same action thing that you see in every time. And guy happens to steal a handaxe from somebody and throws it.
Starting point is 01:02:08 And the arc is bizarre. The arc is nonsense. But it's because it's a Belmont throwing the axe like it, you know. And it's just this two second little shot. It means nothing in the grand. And most people go acts moved weird. But no, it actually moved in a really bizarre sideways parabola. It's supposed to. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:29 Yeah, it's great. But yeah, no, the end of that anyone hold the whip out and just start spinning it as if the damage from the whip would do anything. Yes. Awesome. OK. But the end of that first season is straight up. OK, gang, let's go get Dracula in the next season. Please talk about this on social media so we can get a second season. Is there a hashtag that automatically fills out fucking feels like it, man.
Starting point is 01:02:54 It's all of you. Like Netflix automatically links up to your Twitter and just goes tweet tweet out the hashtag. But it especially seems weird because it's only four episodes, you know, like that's it's it feels even stranger when they just kind of stop. Yeah, if it was like 12 episodes, you have a whole what it's a British season. No, it is a it is a test. Yeah, it's a test.
Starting point is 01:03:15 It is a test for sure, because like the the the the first four episodes deal with absolutely nothing that you that's all set. They don't go to Castlevania. It's all set up. It's all set up. Right. Yeah, right. The country of Castlevania. Right. And there's I want to actually talk a little bit about more in detail because there's a lot of but because I assumed everybody saw it.
Starting point is 01:03:38 But there's a lot of little details in that that there's a lot of speeches by characters that are better than they should be. OK, in particular, Matt, you watch it, right? Yeah, I watch when it came out. The speech between the monster and the dude in the church. Yeah, I don't care about Castlevania. OK, there is there is like one of the weirder things is like, OK, this takes place in the Renaissance.
Starting point is 01:04:04 Sorry, in the Middle Ages, right? It has to, right? Dracula is real. Supernatural shit is real. The the the church has to be a part of it because holy water and consecrated whips and and crosses, right? It's a big deal. But they also were shitasses at the time and are somewhat villainous. And what so how do you actually
Starting point is 01:04:25 like fix those two things at the same time? If that character is a villain and he's a cardinal, then how can the cross hurt Dracula? Right? And the answer is because he's a bad person and it doesn't work. Because he's a bad person. All this shit doesn't work. But that random NPC that's just a priest who has a heart of gold, he can make holy water, no problem.
Starting point is 01:04:48 Yeah, yeah. Like and just OK, solve. That's how we can have just a bunch of shitty human characters. Cool. Yeah, it's great. It's it's fucking fantastic. I'm very excited for the second season. I like this new trend called Japanimation. I think it can go a place goes pretty far. That's that's that's the thing is the demon comes into a church
Starting point is 01:05:08 and he goes, you can't come in here. There's a house of God and goes, God's not here. Yeah. And it's like, what? It's like, God left you because you're a bad person so we can come in. It's like, OK, that's all the all the little thing. And then when you're not a bad person, you can do that crazy Henshin shit where Simon floats in the air and crosses just surrounded.
Starting point is 01:05:30 Oh, Richter is the one who learned that. Richter does that. Never mind. OK, Richter learned how to do that. And you ended up later. You can do what with Grand Cross, man. Faith can do what? Yeah, that shit's nuts. I really like remind me to go back to church.
Starting point is 01:05:45 When did Jesus teach that shit? Maybe this is just me, but I'm certain other people will appreciate it. But you have your vampire hunter of that era and I or your Helsing or whatever. And I love the idea of that character not being religious and not caring about the church. But they're like, but crosses work, though. Holy water is it burn.
Starting point is 01:06:10 They don't like it. Oh, no, I don't go to church. But this this symbol on my whip, it stab it better. But if I don't have faith, it's not even. It's not even not even about faith. It's the guy that start that made it. It's no, it's yeah, I think like the whip is consecrated by a different person or whatever.
Starting point is 01:06:29 Yeah, so like if you're a good person and I'm a shit ass and you make it, but I then use it, yeah, it'll still work. Yeah, OK. Well, it is a physical item that was given. Well, because the idea is the cardinal or bishop is supposed to bless the them personally area around them. But if they're a shit ass, then the blessing don't work. It's the same thing we were talking about like three weeks ago. But you see it actually and you see the failure points
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Starting point is 01:12:01 Well, um, so we're talking about you can blame it on the actually, and I'll get to that in a minute, because there's definitely a blame it on whatever you like segment. But yeah, a couple of things this week. One went in, got the next piece of my tattoo done. So I'm now looking at two sevenths of my back covered. Wow, I'd say that's weird.
Starting point is 01:12:28 That's going to be a lot of work is what I'm hearing. Yeah, I say when you when you divide it, the seventh. But basically the bottom left and the bottom right are done. OK. And what remains is the bottom middle and then the top three and then like a finishing touch type of thing. So when it got that done and yeah, it's going to take like a year to get the whole thing. Well, no, if I wait, I'm basically I'm waiting about two weeks between each session.
Starting point is 01:12:55 Oh, because that's that's that's the recommended time. That's you want to heal, you know, and then once you're good to go, then you can go back and sit down. Sometimes you what I realized sometimes some days are just different. And I went in and oh, the first time I was totally fine. And we were around the time I hit the three hour mark. It was like she's like May was basically like, yeah, OK. Like about three hours is where you can be like, OK, you're starting to sweat.
Starting point is 01:13:21 It's getting getting a little intense. You know, we can stop now type of thing. You just chat or you listen to music or what? Yeah, so it depends. Last time I threw on a podcast, we just chat the whole time. OK, this time around, I threw on the Netflix adaptation of the comic. I killed Giants, which I read back in the day. And I liked the comic.
Starting point is 01:13:40 The movie, unfortunately, didn't have the budget that it needed to make the story compelling. I feel like it didn't have the main actress to make it compelling. I'm going to say out of the bat, she's annoying. You watched it. Yeah. OK. She's that actress or whatever annoying kid actress doing thing, right? She's not even kid. She's like she must be like, you know, late teens, early 20s, maybe.
Starting point is 01:14:08 But like, but she's just winding her way through the whole movie. And it doesn't stop really. And like maybe the last scene. And the thing is the vibe. So it's the main just the gist of the story. I kill Giants is basically outside her teenage girl is the weirdo. But she's the weirdo because she protects the world from Giants and Titans. Yeah. And she battles these things and like.
Starting point is 01:14:34 And the movie plays with the ideas that is she actually battling them? Or what's going on? Because it it does do that well, where it's making me maybe. Well, I don't know. I don't know. And I didn't read the book, so the comic. So I was like, hmm, I'm interested in this, at least. And so the vibe you're supposed to get from reading it is that she's like a smarmy, sarcastic kid that's kind of just like like fuck off,
Starting point is 01:14:59 you know, like with your stupid, like patronizing bullshit, like adults that are being really shitty. Like she just has a smarmyness to her and she's and whatnot. But in general, it never comes across as whiny and annoying. But unfortunately, in the live action, it gets it completely sold. Because there's more elements and like there's a voice than there's like cadence. Yeah. You know, so something that you end up thinking of a character as like kind of like a just like a Clementine going about her business
Starting point is 01:15:28 and being like fucking leave me alone, you know, although Clementine is nicer than that, obviously, in this adaptation, it just ends up being like a yeah, you know. And I'm like, oh, her family is like messed up and she has an older sister who's like struggling to make ends meet. And she's just like, I felt more empathy to that big sister. Yeah. So I will say that when it comes to I Kill Giants, go read the source material because it still looks nice and shot.
Starting point is 01:15:59 Well, it's like competently made. It's just and I mean, again, they had their CG budget was limited. Yeah, in the sense that like it's not that what they had looked awful. It's more that they just didn't have a whole lot of it. So there's a lot of scenes where things are happening, but you don't see them. Yeah. Yeah. Run from the shaking camera. Oh, I hate that. Also, well, you know, it's really fucked up about that movie for me personally. Who is the baseball player that she idolizes?
Starting point is 01:16:26 I don't even remember because I was also getting tattooed at the time. I'll fucking remember because his name is like Bob Kovlesky. OK, said the exact same way. Oh, yeah, your name. Yeah, this is the first time I've ever seen any fiction is this is her thing that says that the not koalas, not a koalsky. Yeah, it's spelt so differently. Yeah, that's how you get to say it. But I was just like every single time I was like, because I never hear it every day.
Starting point is 01:16:53 We got to fix Kovalesky. Yeah, yeah, God, and it was annoying, too, though, just her saying. Yeah. So I was surprised to see it up there. And unfortunately, that's what happened. But anyway, it's still a good comic. But no, I was going to say that like some days you you you feel fine and you can go in and do your do your do your time.
Starting point is 01:17:15 And other days, it's it's hard. So I went in and I had a little sniffle and May was like, is that a sniffle? And I was like, yeah. And no, it's not about sneezing. OK, OK. But I mean, I did I went once and I was like, stop and she's like, OK. And I would and then it was fine. So you're because that would be just don't do that. Why are you goofy?
Starting point is 01:17:36 But it's more along the lines of it's more along the lines of if you are. It's more along the lines of if you are slightly sick, right, or like your your constitution is not what it usually is. And it makes the healing process different. Sure. And also your body is dealing with that. You're not you don't have the same stamina that you usually would. So like the your your pain tolerance and your ability to just stand there and like take it goes down when when I got that jaw infection,
Starting point is 01:18:08 because I had a cold for like a week and a half leading up to it. And like the guy was like, that's really good reason why you probably got that. Because you're already weak and you had some pin prick in your mouth and you got sick and then you got weak. And then the infection was like, yeah, yeah, this is the guy. This is the time to get big in Matt's mouth, he said. So so may was like, yeah, OK, we'll just do a lighter session today. No problem. And I was like, cool.
Starting point is 01:18:34 And like I was also because like the other choice was going straight to the spine, which is going to suck from what I'm told. But get over with. But either way, you should have gone all spine at the beginning. So when I sat down and I was like, OK, cool about like maybe half an hour in, I was sweating in the same way I was after the third hour of the first session. That's correct. And I was like, what is happening?
Starting point is 01:18:57 Why is it so different this time? You know, I was like, oh, my God. And then she's like, yeah, see, like this this is a thing. And I was like, fuck, OK. And I was just like, we can stop early if you want. I'm like, no, let's just we're here. Let's do it. I don't want to waste me. Don't want to waste anyone's time.
Starting point is 01:19:14 Dude, it's like like when you do that for a living, you've seen all kinds of people at this point. What am I going to bring to the table? Nothing. You know, I have a stupid question. Already not impressed. So yeah. So my stupid question about tattoos is is it not just an option to just knock you completely out and just spend like 20 hours doing it? I've never heard of all.
Starting point is 01:19:35 I mean, like doing the whole. So I was going to actually get to something about that because doing the whole like, yeah, just anesthesia and go thing. It's like, yeah, but one, besides the fact that you need a fucking anesthesiologist to put you under and monitor your shit. And plus it costs a lot. No, just get buried with the hammer. Like the other thing, too, is like there would probably be
Starting point is 01:19:57 there would definitely be an effect on your bleeding. And you're and the the the the your skin being loose and like not tense at all is actually bad. Hey, you have you're getting it. So by the way, we're getting a he's getting a big old tattoo on his back in case you haven't figured out. Yes. What are you going to do if you get old and your whole back just becomes like a horrible dark forest of like creepy back hair?
Starting point is 01:20:21 I've never had a ton of back hair. Yeah, but you're you're young now. Yeah. So are you going to like shave it or what? It'll still show up. OK. It's the way you're going to say the design old and saggy. The design would still show up through the I mean, we're all going to get old and saggy. I mean, that's unavoidable. But I have a bit of back hair.
Starting point is 01:20:38 But if it ever gets like more like the way that it is, it would still show up. So it's not a big deal. But in any case, yeah, we saw it got to that point and it was kind of like, OK, fuck, this is this is nuts. I feel like the way I did at the end of the first session almost right away. So I was like, get up, walk around and and then I was saying like, I was like, well, what about the what about just like getting blitzed, right? Why can't you just do that?
Starting point is 01:21:03 I don't think that's a very good idea. Same thing as the as the anesthesia, right? I mean, I don't think that's a good idea for completely different reasons because like if I'm blitzed, my ability to sit still is annihilated. Oh, well, that no, that wouldn't be the case. But it's more just like you're it's you know, like the same thing that makes us of that like someone that falls from a high distance while drunk. Yeah, you get loose and therefore is probably safer than someone who tenses up.
Starting point is 01:21:27 Hell, yeah, that same thing applies to tattoos in the reverse way, where it's like that looseness is bad. Oh, so they could accidentally punch through to your organs or what? Well, it's not that fucking extreme. But it's more along the lines of the looseness that like that you you get from like not feeling it as much and just being like more like is makes it worse for the work that she's doing. Hey, I just had a thought if you ever have a really bad headache
Starting point is 01:21:54 before you go to these things, don't take anything for them. Yeah, don't do that. No, and it thins your blood, right? Yeah, that no, that's why. Yeah, my dad used to be because his heart exploded all those times. Used to be on what's called kumadin, which is like the strongest as blood thinner and it be kinds like paper cut. He's like, oh, OK, bye.
Starting point is 01:22:11 I got to deal with this because like a paper cut becomes a problem. Yeah, when you're on that shit. So, you know, and then you have to consider as well the fact that like your body needs to then just spend all of its energy healing as soon as you're done. So, uh, but at the same time, it was like, OK, again, like this is going this is going not the way I expected. So I'm like, what about?
Starting point is 01:22:33 So I'm like, what about just like the beginning of not getting bliss? But what about we just loosen up the process a little bit? Yeah, it took a shot of JD. Yeah, you know, for your nerves. Yep, walked around a little bit, sat back down, finished that bitch. No problem. There you go. Worked out just fine. See, alcohol was the solution.
Starting point is 01:22:49 It was the solution and cause of just it's just just don't don't. Not to the extreme, because the moderation not to the extreme. That'll affect the work. But at the very least, in terms of just getting a buff that I needed, completely no problem. See, got to the end of the movie was like, oh, let's put on another one. And she's like, actually, I'm done. You know what you should do because you have seven parts.
Starting point is 01:23:09 You have five parts to go right out of seven might be more. I mean, I'm being I'm being optimistic. All right, let's assume. So you went in sober, then you went in with a little drink. What if next time you went in? I don't know, Han Morphine or Ecstasy or what have you and you can you can see the process on your back and say, oh, that part came out weird because I was high as balls off stolen drugs.
Starting point is 01:23:32 I'll pop an ambient. Yeah. See where it takes me. Oxycontin. Stolen. See where it takes me. Absolutely. Hey, they're all terrible ideas. Anyway, obviously, because they're not me. I don't have to. More importantly, not more importantly, but like I'll give everybody else that
Starting point is 01:23:49 I did. I brought it up last time. But the fact that like a lot of people are like, oh, man, how about the healing process? Is it itching? How's it going? And I'm like, I barely even feel anything. Is it just a little sore? There's nothing there. It sounds like you're lucky.
Starting point is 01:24:02 And it's because the magic of this like knock on wood. There's the there's the second skin thing, right? Where it's just like two skins. It is a. I knew it. It is a sticker. He's a lizard. It is. It is. It's hospital equipment, basically. I like how he's powering through all this shit.
Starting point is 01:24:18 And you put because we have a podcast to record. No, it's good. It's good. So it's a stick. It's kind of like this large sticker and you cut it. And it basically it's a hospital equipment that you put over like wounds and things like that. And and it just lets it heal while keeping it clean. Infection is not a problem.
Starting point is 01:24:35 And it can breathe still medical technology back in the day. When my friend got his big sleeve done, I remember he'd have like saran wrap covering. Yeah, I always see people. Right. And you've got that saran wrap thing going. And it's like that keeps the infection out. But it gets gooey and gross because there's no breathing in there. And then like sometimes the pus in the butt, the pus on the butt, the butt.
Starting point is 01:24:55 Grossness, none of that happening with this thing. It's fucking magical. Reminds me they're using they're using fish skin to help burn victims under similar properties where it's like you got to close it off. But you can't seal it off. Yeah, you seal off parts of your body. It gets gross in there. So you know, if you wore like a sealed pair of pants for like a week,
Starting point is 01:25:20 that just never took them off. Never took it off because your panties, your bathing suit area has to heal. Yeah, it's important for one. Yeah. So that's it. That that that's happening and we're getting there. We're getting this LP. I'm not in use on.
Starting point is 01:25:36 Yes, well, when I finish and I've gone full Yakuza, then you'll know. But in the meantime, does this mean that if you go back to Japan and go to one of the fucking springs, yep, like it's going to be awkward as shit? Yeah, like more than usual. I mean, it means I'll have to go to the ones that are all tattoos are allowed in, which I have a friend who will tell me where they are. Doesn't that mean that those have a higher concentration of other tattooed narrow-dwells? Probably.
Starting point is 01:26:05 But they'll hang out with me. OK, it'll be cool. That'll be a cool. They'll rope woolly into helping them get some guys dominatrix to treat him better. Yeah, I took me a second to follow you there. I thought you were going to say he's going to get roped in to having to kill all of the robot babies that are robots. But they're robots, though. OK.
Starting point is 01:26:28 Yeah, see, it took you a second to get there. It did. We get there. Oh, I'll talk to them about GTO and it'll be good. It'll be fine. Oh, get my dragon quest for me. Beat up Santa. You know, you can be you can be like you can be like Jesus and Buddha hanging out in the baths with those jacuzzi's.
Starting point is 01:26:47 Nobody saw that. All right. No, I saw it. And I'd just be like, you know, call me Yaseke and anime about the Jesus, the woolly everywhere system. Yeah, the modern Yaseke. Then, uh, anyway, I went to fucking Granby Zoo because why not? Yeah, you did. Because we went up with my my Haka Iwi, the group. We all went up for the basically the teacher's birthday.
Starting point is 01:27:19 She has literally Kristen Bell-esque responses to sloths. So it was like, we're going to do the pay to get her in there to feed the sloth in the morning and hang out. Right. I don't get the Kristen Bell reference. I also have no idea what you're talking about. Oh, have you not seen that video of Kristen Bell getting a sloth? Which one is Kristen Bell again? Is that the Twilight?
Starting point is 01:27:44 She's the one from Veronica Mars. Assassin's Creed. Thank you. So, OK, there's a famous video of her on a talk show. I forget which one where someone brings out a sloth and she just starts screaming and freaking out like good or bad. Good. Like it's just the cutest thing in the world. She can't handle it. It's an overload type of thing. My teacher loves she loves sloths.
Starting point is 01:28:03 Sure. I just I just don't know about this video. Yeah, it was it was famous at all. But I get it now. And anyway, so did you push the sloth out of the way and put a red panda there instead? Well, here's the thing now. I know that you got to be panda dad. Yeah. Right. So this is I didn't really.
Starting point is 01:28:21 But this is like sloth mom. This is what it was. Bob mom's a good mom, don't worry. And the way it was set up is like, yeah, you know what? When you look at the shop and you look at all the marketing, red pandas are clearly the fucking protagonists. Yeah, they know they should that shit sells.
Starting point is 01:28:40 Oh, tag. It's huge by God to be plush animals and walking around, walking around, looking or like, hey, do you got any sloths anywhere in the store, anywhere in by the pan? And she's like, there's one mug and one plush. That's it. And like, what about red panda? You're surrounded by them, you know?
Starting point is 01:29:01 So it's not to say that like the red because we saw red panda and fuck, those things are cute. They're gorgeous and the fur is perfect. And like the colors is just it's designed. I feel like they were designed. It's a character design. It really looks designed for cute factor. But it's so over already.
Starting point is 01:29:18 Yeah. Whereas the sloth, the only thing sloths got recently besides that Christian Christian bell thing is the Zootopia gift of the smile. Yeah. In slow motion. Have you ever over on the Internet? Seen that sloth t-shirt that you might wouldn't really work for a hawk instructor, but it's like a sloth climbing a bunch of bullshit and it's just live, slow, die, whatever. Oh, no, I have not seen that.
Starting point is 01:29:43 That's my favorite piece of sloth merchandise. It's like, you know, there's certain animals like otters, a sloth. Yeah. They're over on the Internet. Like I'm going to I'm going to just I'm going to Google a reaction and without audio talk shows, just to get you guys up to date on this apparent thing. But it was on Ellen. Yeah. So Kristen Bell was on Ellen in 2012.
Starting point is 01:30:07 If I was on Ellen, I'll be like, man, I sure love red pandas. Talking about getting stabbed by Ezio or whatever. And she's talking about how much she loves the video games. And then they pull a mori and then they they bring one out and she basically has a case. Well, OK, I've seen this reaction give of her. I just didn't know a sloth was involved. Yeah. Where is it? I don't see it.
Starting point is 01:30:34 I think they just showed her a video of the sloth. No, there is this is the wrong clip. Don't worry about it. The important thing is that Kristen Bell likes sloths and that gave Willie the idea to go to Grand B. It was it was that's how I've internalized this story. It was it was it was just the fact that she loves them that much. And so we got her melting in that exact way almost pretty much.
Starting point is 01:30:57 It was great. And did you see that in a video of like yesterday where there's this woman just nuzzling and like just rubbing her head with a cheetah. Yeah, I did. The greatest. Yeah, that's actually there's tons of people now that are just like that's their thing is like, you know, I hang out with wild animals hanging out like that dude that hangs out with the deer or bears.
Starting point is 01:31:18 And it's on the deer stole his chain. He put the chain on the deer forever. He's like, you're back here, Lupita. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, cats forever. Right. Now that I've had a cat for a year, I look at the videos, you know, the big cats and they sit in the boxes. And hey, do Zach and Lelou ever do the thing where their eyes get real big and they turn into like vicious assholes and they try and eat you?
Starting point is 01:31:39 No. OK. Well, Elmo does that and other ones. And I look at it and I look at Elmo and I say, oh, if you were like a hundred times your size, I would just be food inside you now because cats need to kill. Yeah. Well, that's the vibe I got just staring at the fucking cheetahs and lions just lying down in that exact cat way. Well, you just look at them and you're like, you you're just a large sized version of the same thing.
Starting point is 01:32:11 Like they lie on their sides in that in that same kind of way. I think that's the way. Sorry. If I meant because I think it was Park Safari when when you're in a tunnel and all the lions are lying on top of this translucent tunnel. You can like see them. Yeah, this is no no. Grambi Grambi has a different. I confuse the Safari and Grambi all.
Starting point is 01:32:29 Well, it's like I remember seeing a couple of years ago of a tiger being given like a box from some Amazon or some and just they need to. Yeah, no matter what. Large. So there was a large box. They need just a lion was lying in exactly. And like just looking at the way they are moving around and doing a shit. I'm like, when they're just bored, hanging out, it's like, you're just a cat. Like there's no difference.
Starting point is 01:32:49 And then you're like, oh, cats are really poorly domesticated. Actually, but then then will he remembers ghosts in the darkness and respect someone's more. You have that vision of here's Brosnan and you can't Michael Douglas. If you were brave, you would jump into that tiger cage to write only dumb asshole sit in this box. Yeah, there you go. Or you jump over the fence and smack that hippo's ass.
Starting point is 01:33:14 Did you see that? I did not. But that is the most dangerous thing in the world. Is that person alive? They're they're alive. That's amazing. But it's one of those like you really don't understand what you just did. Like that joke that you that you went for. We if anyone's one of those things more than hippos in Africa. I think I think it's hippos.
Starting point is 01:33:36 Like in Africa kills things more than hippos. Hippo, like it's food. Like I mean, like there's no there is no more outside of like, yeah, like play, carrying bugs and weird shit like that. When it comes to just like man versus animal sized animal hippo, hippo just ruins the human race. I'll never forgive that fucking movie that said like, this is the world's greatest serial killer.
Starting point is 01:34:00 It's killed over a thought. He is killed over a thousand people. And then when the trailer says it's a crocodile. Boo, like I wanted like a serial killer. That doesn't fucking count, dude. See, I'm sure we have discussed this on the podcast because I know that me and you will have discussed this at length, maybe 10 times. But every time I hear the story that you just told me,
Starting point is 01:34:28 I am overcome with the feeling of, I would say, anti-sympathy over any events that occur. Yeah, as a result of what you said is that guy alive. I almost said, unfortunately. Yeah. And it's and it's not like, oh, that's that's a thing worthy of getting murdered. It's just it's like the comeuppance. This is so stupid that if it were to eat you, I would go. Well, yeah, like, like, it's like, oh, I made a sandwich, then I ate the sandwich.
Starting point is 01:34:58 It's such an obvious death that the fact that it didn't happen is like, wow, OK, it's it's it's barely even lucky. It's just it's it's the equivalent of like a local man dies after attempting to hang glide with kites off of off of you. Go. Like, am I supposed to feel that hippos murder? Do you know what kills more than sharks or bears or wolves? It goes cows. Oh, yeah, sure. Sure. Anyway, but we also fucking grow them and have a lot of them hanging around.
Starting point is 01:35:31 My grandma, dear, my grandpa, oh, God, who recently passed recipes, grandma, but she grew up on a farm and there was a cow that hated her guts. And one day she was feeding the cows in the barn and the cow just grabbed its head and just nudged her and just pinned her against the wall for like four hours. Because it didn't like her. Wow. And the she's like, I don't know, 10 or whatever.
Starting point is 01:35:58 And just the ability to leave is just not there. Well, that's the one thing, though, at the very least, if a cow fucking hates you, you can fight back against the cow, right? They're a lot of mass. There's a lot. But what I'm saying is they don't have the fucking raw kill power that a hippopotamus has. Wait a second. Hold on one second.
Starting point is 01:36:19 Matt, when you looked up cows, does that include bulls? No. No. OK. No, that's not fair. All right. Let me want to read that. I wanted to see the top 10 of them as I killed them. Oh, so number 10, domesticated dogs. That's completely not shocking at all. Due to, like, mist, you know, like dogs, rabies, then the Cape buffalo.
Starting point is 01:36:38 Yeah, sure. Responsible for about 200 reported deaths a year. Then after that, elephants, about 500 people a year and crocodiles, about 1,000 to almost 2,500. These are all pretty normal. We're going pure tears right now. Tears, hippo at six. Got it. Around almost 3,000 people killed every year. That's quite a jump.
Starting point is 01:36:58 But it's Africa's most dangerous animal. Got it. So above hippo, we have scorpions, snakes, almost 50,000 people killed a year. Testy flies. Shut up. What is that? T. S. E. T. S. E. Seats. Seats flies.
Starting point is 01:37:20 I like to see better. 500,000 people killed a year. That's a parasitic mosquito. Mosquitoes at number two, about a million people killed a year. Yeah, vibe malaria. And number one, the greatest animal of all, humans. We're number one. We're number one.
Starting point is 01:37:40 This is also a thing where I'm reading a countdown like a TV show and it goes human. Boo. I thought it would be something cooler than me. See, the thing is, though, is that when it comes to fucking like when it comes to the other shit that's above hippo, it's all like venomous shit that's meant to kill you, right? A ground-based animal with no special like debuffs.
Starting point is 01:38:03 With no weapons. Nothing. It's just raw power. They fucking kill with such veracity. It's shocking that there was never like a TMNT or street shark style group that were like hippos. Only the hungry hungry. And the things are marbles and they do it with such a rate. And your head is a marble.
Starting point is 01:38:24 They're so tenacious with it. It's almost like they have a vendetta against humans. I like to kill. You guys want to see if the animated gift for video to make you big scared of a hippo. Just type in hippo and watermelon and you'll see people throwing full watermelons to the hippos, which they pop like they are like grapes.
Starting point is 01:38:41 The problem is that baby hippos are also among they're very cute and don't forget about the North American House hippo. Yeah, living in your closet. The very small ones. They're very adorable. It's in the near-automatic LP. We're talking about the speed to kill rating.
Starting point is 01:38:58 OK. Things that you get on your mousetraps. Zero to date. But that's a number that can apply to lots of things. And fucking hippos on the speed to kill are way the fuck up. Hey, would you rather be like horribly torn apart or die via some numbing burning venom? I'll take the venom.
Starting point is 01:39:17 I would not want to take them. I think you're underselling how horrific dying via necrotic or like heart-stopping venom is. Well, here's the thing. If the if it's numbing, which is the word you say. No, he just threw. I mean, like paralytic, like a heart explosion. Like if I can't move and I'm feeling numb
Starting point is 01:39:37 and it's just wasting away in that state. Let's remove the numbness. OK, well, there's lots of poisons. They're both fucking awful. I don't know. I don't know. But getting ripped apart physically is not something I want to feel. I mean, that's obviously bad, right?
Starting point is 01:39:49 That's not a thing I want to feel. No one's going to enjoy that. So yeah, I remember I shit my pants when we were playing Assassin's Creed Origins and I didn't know that there are hippos in it. Then I saw there are hippos in it. And you're like, fuck. And I'm like, this is end game boss.
Starting point is 01:40:03 Yeah, right there. How am I supposed to defeat this? They're legitimately tougher than a lot of the human enemies. Their aggression levels are high and they don't target other things. And their mercy is low. You know how chickens are noble, but unfair? Hippos are unfair. They're brutal, they're merciless, and they're unforgiving.
Starting point is 01:40:26 If the hippo sees you and it didn't kill you last time, it remembers your face and targets you first to finish the job. Are you aware of the peacock? Yes, yes, noble and fair, like in terms that it will not kill you if you abide every one hippo griff and Harry Potter. You have to like bow down to it. If you have ever went to a zoo and saw a live hippo, you are now on its kill list.
Starting point is 01:40:51 I'll be real. It has a visual memory. It's going to take its turn. It's going to all of them. I'm personally more wary about the deer, just the average ass deer. Deer was really high on the list. Because I'm I don't know why we live in an area in which if we just walk for long enough in the direction, there will be deer.
Starting point is 01:41:09 And deer have kicked my ass on many occasions. Most of the time as a child, the first of which, of course, but not all of the was in Granby Zoo, but where I went, oh, a deer. And then a baby deer just rocked my shit. But deer will rock your shit and kick your ass. Yeah, a bear will fuck you up. Yeah, a hippo will end you eat you. A hippo will end you.
Starting point is 01:41:36 There's no other like here. And here's where I'm going with this, right? And this is where you have to play the odds. Well, what is your current likelihood of getting damaged by a hippo in your lifetime as you are now? Zero point zero zero one, right? What is your likelihood of encountering a deer that will hurt you in some fashion? Two percent, like it's it's a thing that could happen.
Starting point is 01:41:57 Yeah, unlike the hippo, because you'll be going to an area. They say we have hippos and you'll go, no, I'm not. And then you'll leave. And that's why and that's why a lot of this comes and like cows. It's like, OK, when you play the numbers game, how many cows? There is guaranteed a cow within 20 kilometers of us right now, which is why it's like, OK, when you just play the raw numbers, looking for us, right?
Starting point is 01:42:17 But if you but if you're not playing the numbers game on statistics, you're just factoring in individual kill. Yeah, right? What the fuck else takes it? Going back to the well to naked and afraid. Do you remember the Black Bear episode? And they're like, there's thousands of black bears. I'm like, so fucking what?
Starting point is 01:42:36 You were supposed to run out of Black Bear and they'll fucking leave. Black Bear, notoriously timid, easy to super cower. Literally punch it on the nose. It'll fucking you have to say, I will punch you on the nose and it only knows what you're talking about. You want to have a Black Bear video? Just go look up Black Bear. What are you doing there?
Starting point is 01:42:54 It's like, it's that guy hanging out in a guy's stand. Unlike unlike. No, Bear, get away from my canoe. Bear. Oh, why? I can't believe it's eating my food. No, dude, like you need a dog and your your Black Bear protected for life. Yeah, so any other bear now.
Starting point is 01:43:14 And when that says dog, the smaller, the better. Because the smaller, yeah, your dog will intimidate the bear very much. So picture, if you will, that like, you know, like telltale style, the hippo will remember that. It's just as your faces are walking by, all of your faces are just getting added to the kill register. Do you remember like in a minority report, people always have to look up at the camera and it goes.
Starting point is 01:43:37 That's it. That's like, if I ever get out of here, I'm probably going to die first. Yeah, but if I have to. But if I don't, I'm coming in the order that I saw you. I'd love to see a Wolverine in real life. That'd be fun. But they're so rare and like they I don't think they're in there. They've been captured.
Starting point is 01:43:52 You know, it was fucked up. So Gramby, they had porcupines and the stink. They were huge. Huge and I thought they were like because the porcupines I've always seen have been like these little small, almost almost cat sized things. Maybe maybe a small annoyance in a video game. And the size that they fucking came at, like it was like you were like almost a goat.
Starting point is 01:44:16 No, it was huge. Yeah, they're quite large. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was nuts. Sloths, the other thing with sloths, too, is like those claws. Like they will fuck you up if they wanted to. No sleep. Only don't stick your fingers out. Don't ever point at a slot.
Starting point is 01:44:32 There's a good chance you'll be able to move in time. But when they want to, though, they have bursts of speed. Yeah, we want we hung out with Pui Pui for a while. But is it like Ippo or if it can only do it a couple of times and then I'll die? It's more like it's more like like when it's when necessary, it'll use that stamina bar to completion and it's like and then it's sitting and waiting on the the fucking cool down, the cool down. Yeah, which is like weeks.
Starting point is 01:44:58 The CD is long. The CD is long, long. We're not going to not going to pretend it's not. All right. But anyway, no, man, it was it was a fucking it was a good trip. And we saw. Yeah, I saw some crazy shit. What was the most fucked up was there's a place where you can go eat lunch surrounded by giraffes and lions and a whole like African safari kind of field.
Starting point is 01:45:16 What kind of barrier are we talking? You're you're on a height and the lion one. I looked at the lion one and thought about that tiger one, where the tiger jumped out of the barrier at the kid that was being stupid. The kid who'd super deserved it. The stupid idiot. The one we always think of when we think of that. Yeah, that one where the tiger is like, you know what, fuck this bitch
Starting point is 01:45:33 and just jumps out of the giant wall and gets out. You know what, let's refresh real quick. The story we're talking about is what a kid got eaten at the San Diego Zoo by a tiger who jumped like 16 feet out of its own enclosure giant pit. And you go, oh, no, why the kid died because he was throwing rocks at the tiger and it jumps up and gets close to him a couple of times. And he's like, haha, and keeps throwing rocks at it. And it gets within swiping distance and then just fucking clears it.
Starting point is 01:45:57 So yeah, so they fucking they can super jump. And so looking at the way this was set up, that's my first thought was looking at the super jump potential. And it was, yeah, they were not able to get out. However, right? You're surrounded by that. Then there was some elephants on the other side and some really cool gorillas hanging out where they're like the gorilla.
Starting point is 01:46:17 They're like any other thing that fights, they'll break them up and trank if they need to gorillas have to fight because they need to let each other know who's boss. Because if they don't, they won't have the confidence to mate when the time comes. And if they just trank them, they wake up and go, who won? I don't know. And then they get right back into it. So I don't like gorillas. But this shit is all set up around the food area where the smell
Starting point is 01:46:39 of fucking delicious cooked meat is just going 24 seven. And I'm like, why would you put the lion's back steakhouse right next to why would you do this? And we're eating our foods and dripping our sauces over the barriers as lions are just smacking their teeth like and that's their whole existence is the smelling of delicious, delicious meats. One day we're going to get the meat. And then the other day we're going to get the meat eating the meat, you know?
Starting point is 01:47:08 And I was like, this is an unfortunate place to put that. That's not smart, guys. I refuse to go to any primate like area. And the DK rap is not on loop 24 seven. Well, you know what? Of that 24. Fuck off. Yeah. Do you know what fucking DK is doing? Eight hours a day eating.
Starting point is 01:47:24 Yeah, because when you're eating fucking leaves and you're that big and powerful, you need to eat so much of it. It's a full time job. Because it's not real food. Tears, who just did a video. Our shit dinosaurs. The unbanned from the men. And like number one problem is they're so large and their food supply
Starting point is 01:47:40 is mostly plants that it's probable that like the current earth just can't support it, support them. They would probably all die immediately from starvation. Unless we fucking showed up and started throwing ourselves at them. That's not going to help a triceratops. No, it's not. They need any plants. But the omnivores and carnies we want.
Starting point is 01:48:01 You know, you know, you can run a T-Rex. They're actually quite slow. Oh, yeah. Yeah. What about but but then anything that's not a T-Rex is still a fucking problem. Well, yeah, the Raptors will kill you for sure. Raptors will fucking get you. Raptors are just kangaroos with claws. You know, the at any of those smaller shits to the annoying ones.
Starting point is 01:48:19 Anyway, ideally, yeah, I don't like I want to expand chimps and gorillas and whatnot in in zoos. Freak me out. So the weirdest part about the zoo is that there was a dino zoo section. What? And I was like, and it's like, you're just wasting park space. Is this where they throw those loser birds that they're like this? Was not even just statues.
Starting point is 01:48:44 And you're like, you're wasting space statues on fucking statues and dangerous endangered in there. The the animatronic fucking stegosaurus that I that I saw at the escape room was more impressive. Anyway, get some get some fucking, I don't know. Yeah, steal someone's kids and throw them in there. It was a kangaroo and shit like that. It was cool. It was cool.
Starting point is 01:49:06 But whatever, I could go on about the fucking zoo forever. But it was I guess what zoos are cool. And if you think zoos are bad, you're probably misunderstanding the situation. Played a whole lot of death scambit. Yes, you did. Went through that and first demoed it back at the PAX floor. And I remember my impressions were like, yeah, this is this is cool, though.
Starting point is 01:49:28 Feels a little loose here and there with a couple of things. And the main thing was like the soul'sness aspect of it was like taken to the end of the degree where you would actually see the phases marked on the life bar. I saw I saw Jim talking about it. He did a video on it and he's like, yeah, it's pretty good. But like its soul'sness seems like crazy over the construction of what it is to be a soul's like. Like I saw it's never been more.
Starting point is 01:49:53 I saw cutscene where a character is like, you need to ring the two bells. And he's like, really? He's like, no, it's never been OK. Yeah, but it's never been more over than you seeing on a life bar what phase you're in, you know. That being said, there's some really cool shit in this game. In particular, the way it handles its narrative is is quite fun. It does a lot of interesting things with the the the I guess I'll say the difficulty and the deaths.
Starting point is 01:50:27 OK, that will occur at bosses. All right. And it plays with your experience coming back around after dying and trying to get back to your souls or not your souls, rather, your feathers. I feel really bad for this game because it came out right after dead cells came out, but that was an early access for a long time. But this was just a put out as an adult swim game to very many people. That distinction doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:50:52 But they were in development for a very long time, the both of them. This is announced a long time ago, too. In fact, I remember the first gifts of it with that sliding teeter totter boss. So here's what happens when you die in this, you don't drop your so feathers, you said, right? You drop your estus one sip. Oh, so each death, you lose a sip of estus permanently. Well, not until you go retrieve it. OK. Or you pay money to get them all to get them back.
Starting point is 01:51:17 Right. I'm a big fan of I'm thinking of Hollow Knight because I've played a bunch of it, right? I'm a big fan of like, OK, Corpse Run. Dark Souls brought the Corpse Run back. Corpse Run is big. How can we tweak the Corpse Run? Like you're talking about losing your your healing. Less heals over time.
Starting point is 01:51:37 Yeah, that's rough. And like I'm thinking of Hollow Knight, one of the nice little details is that the soul that you have to kill on your Corpse Run is getting stronger. The farther I go, yeah, it fights back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they're they're they're stepped up, stepping up that that concept. But like, yeah, the funnest thing about this game is definitely the way it delivers its story. The there's the voice acting is really good.
Starting point is 01:52:01 Some of those character designs, too. There's some real. Yeah, there's some solid voice acting going on. But at the same time, your main character doesn't talk and it's a bit weird. But I'm not sure why. The one thing, though, it's not one thing. There's a couple of things. But so that that that that aspect I was complaining about with like the deconstruction and like the scene, the phases and the whole like,
Starting point is 01:52:22 yeah, overtly souls thing, you get past that. But there's a level of jank that still exists. And in particular, it comes out in how buggy. The game, I don't want to hear that. You're running into bugs pretty frequently. Hey, man, a game that has that form of structure in which it is mean to you needs to be fair. Lot of break, a lot of C class stuff,
Starting point is 01:52:47 a lot of C class stuff to define that for the people like sitting at a bonfire and having it like the menu that pops up, you can't like the text is gone. OK, so C class is the frame of disappears, right? B is the text is gone, so I can't level up at this bonfire because I don't know what my numbers are going to be, right? So noticeable, not disastrous, but like from a user perspective. Yeah, we had another. I had another B class occur just last night where talking to NPCs,
Starting point is 01:53:17 I could only select the first option on their list of like talk by upgrade, whatever you just couldn't go down. I couldn't go down. That's I had to quit the game. I restarted. I couldn't go down again. I will quit to main menu and restarted. It didn't work and then I had to fucking shut it down and come back in. And it was fine, but stuff like that happens. The certain graphics not appearing when I trained to change screens
Starting point is 01:53:41 are popping in late bodies of things I killed, like doing their death animation when I walk back into the screen. That's yeah. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like, unfortunately, like there's some QA things happening. We're because we played the game for like an hour or more in the video. And like it gave me no impression. It didn't run into anything. No. But it's just as you just go on, you're playing on what?
Starting point is 01:54:05 I'm playing on steam. Yeah. And there's some definite localization things that pop up every now and then where you're like, yeah, that's a weird way to phrase that. But the characters and NPCs you meet continue to be awesome the whole way through. In fact, there's not a dud amongst them. Really? Every single NPC I've met has been fucking strong. Really, really cool with that. And yeah, I guess like I'm about eight bosses in, right?
Starting point is 01:54:37 So a lot of yeah, like quite a few hours in. And we're still using that site though. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, I'm doing I'm doing the acolyte of death run. And the game is definitely it feels like the weird choice because the game is like, here's a bunch of shit if you're not a site user, right? So it seems like it's like really made for all the other weapons. And I think I feel like I picked a weird one that seems to have less provisions.
Starting point is 01:55:01 You can't respect anywhere. You can respect. Well, no, I rather I don't know, but I don't want to. OK, so like being an acolyte of death in this game allows you to there. Sometimes you find bonfires, quote unquote, they're like statues of death that are broken and this lets you heal them. So I'm like, I'll take an extra save spot where I couldn't get one before. But I'm noticing all these enemies and like bosses I'm fighting and things like that are like, cool. Hey, do you want to learn these rad techniques for not the weapon you have?
Starting point is 01:55:32 And that's what that's why I ask, because like maybe the game always does that. If you can respect, like, it's like, you know, but this class is really cool, too. It's like it's like each class you meet like the you you meet like the badass thief. You meet the bad acts, a spearholder, you meet the badass hammer guy. And they're all like, yo, I got tech for my thing. And you meet an archer and whatnot. And I just haven't met anybody like that at all. Not a single person is like, I mean, like they're there.
Starting point is 01:56:01 You just know the guys keep coming. And the other guys, the hammer guys, like, yeah, I got some shit, too. The spear girl is like, I have some like whatever. What's it called? Like a foshard, whatever. The other type of polearm in the game. I've got some of that, too. And the archers like, yeah, I got both stuff. But there's no actual bug, like maybe it's an issue.
Starting point is 01:56:23 No, it just feels like it's the weapon that has the least handouts. But again, maybe that's the trade off for having yeah, maybe it's really good on the base level. You know, Halberg, that's the weapon I'm thinking of. Some fun ideas for these boss fights, though, I got to say there's some really cool concepts that you wouldn't expect of a like souls like. What's an example that you can dance around? So the one that you saw at the test floor at the PAX floor
Starting point is 01:56:50 was like the teeter tottering stage where you're fighting this large thing that looks it looks pretty much exactly like a cap of demon, a capra. Am I saying that? Did I fuck it? Is it a capra or a cap of demon? Capra, capra, capra, like the capra demon. And if you spend too much time on one side of the stage or the other, it teeters until you all die, right? So you have to spend time balancing that out.
Starting point is 01:57:10 And then it starts doing area denial so that you have to get through the area to keep the thing balanced, right? Another example is you have a 2D version of the end fight. Really? You have a fucking sniper battle. I keep explaining. Super didn't expect this large stage horizontally that you have to fucking traverse as as the as the boss is either coming at you in person, picking shots off with with a laser that eventually
Starting point is 01:57:45 changes from yellow to red and then fires at you or eventually jumps into the background and starts picking you off and setting up traps in the foreground to get fucking cool. That is cool. Yeah. Unexpected entirely, right? But like every every design is like ranges from the badasses we saw in that quick look of like just a super cool blizzard, like armor or straight up destiny characters, right?
Starting point is 01:58:16 What? Helmet and armor and fucking gun and like tattered cloak. You said laser before and I was like, yeah, I kind of lost you there when you said laser. Literal sniper rifle saying gun gun sniper rifle firing at me weird. I've seen this game a bunch all over the place and not a once did my brain go, oh, gun. Everyone has a cool old school helmet or visor. It's an interesting mix of all styles, really.
Starting point is 01:58:47 And it works. It doesn't feel out of place. It feels particularly cool. Yeah, but and the it's the boss fights have all been pretty, pretty great with that so far. The the abilities and power ups and things you get. That's weird. Really let you, you know, kind of focus in on a particular style
Starting point is 01:59:04 and there's a nice skill tree that you can invest in after each boss fight as well. So lots of fun, solid ideas going on here more than I initially expected. However, the jankiness is real. And that's going to have to be, I guess, patched out over time because it does or not. And sometimes the the way that certain enemies swing at you feels like that flash kind of sliding limb swing, you know,
Starting point is 01:59:32 it's and it's and it's and it's like not all of them. Some of them are very clearly fucking slick with it and have real animation happening. But every once in a while, the certain type of enemy will come at you with just like my arm is moving, my elbow is moving the sword. And then that's sliding around for big act swings, you know. But still very cool overall and more cool shit to see than not cool shit, I should say. It's a good magic.
Starting point is 02:00:01 I'll check back in once I'm a bit further along. But yeah, some really fun cut scene stuff going on, some really fun story delivery devices that I think you guys would enjoy. I also saw that movie, eighth grade. I don't know if you've seen or heard about it, but just really quickly, it's Bo Burnham, the comedian Bo Burnham wrote a movie about like just being a hot mess of an awkward cringy girl in the eighth grade in the era of social media and trying to make YouTube videos while
Starting point is 02:00:31 like at school, barely being able to talk to people and stuff. And it's full of cringe and it's full of like what you like relatable awkwardness and like it's one of the things where my girl was basically just like going like, oh, my God, this is me on on TV. This is me on on movie film. Like just like hyper relatable, like awful feelings of like. Remember when everything in high school felt like the biggest deal in the world because you had no context for how little it matters?
Starting point is 02:01:00 Yeah. Well, high school also, everything feels like the biggest deal in the world is because your brain, your brain chemistry as a younger person makes it literally feel like a bigger deal. You are, you're not feeling developing as a human being until you're like 25. The comparison that I remember reading up a million years ago, the stress response that a teenager like a 15 year old would get from failing a test or like having a really bad date or something is the equivalent to someone our age losing their job.
Starting point is 02:01:35 Right. OK. Like it's it's like it is actually statistically and like chemically worse 14. Because also around you, you're told how important high school is. You're locked in here for years. I mean, you can quit, obviously, like depending on your situation. But most people are like, oh, there's so much pressure on you. Yeah. But but have a decent high school. But in combination with that, you literally don't have other outlets
Starting point is 02:01:59 because you don't have anything else going on in life or responsibilities outside of these things, right? That's why I'm like, I don't know if it's a chicken or the egg scenario. Oh, no, it's it's it's the circumstances caused the stress or perspective. But also your stress response is higher. Yeah. But what has happened? It seemed like a big deal also. Lachine high. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:18 Are you? Yeah. Yeah. For me at the time, even though it's fucking nothing. It's it's an after thought. Listen, it's not like it ruined and defined your whole life or anything. But yeah, so there's that. And that that's the whole thing. And like any time any time I'm like, I try to give advice to like younger people about anything in that regard or just like high school drama that occurs,
Starting point is 02:02:39 it's like you can't possibly understand right now how little this matters in the long run. But right now, when your only social outlets are the house you live in, then the school you go to, possibly a job somewhere. Hang out area. I'm going to imagine there's nothing else that you're going to care about. The map of your world is very small. There's only a couple of locations on that 2D overhead.
Starting point is 02:03:04 I can only imagine you phrase that somewhat differently. If you were talking to somebody who's like, listen, you have no idea how much none of this shit matters. I know you're upset, but it just doesn't matter. But stop bothering me with this shit. I mean, look, like when someone and the thing is too, you know, the person who's fucking dealing with it, you have to understand. Of course, it's like, yeah, like that.
Starting point is 02:03:26 So like when you look at the 5% like mattering that you would attribute to the fact that someone tried like roasted you online and everyone clicked like on it, you know, and then it's like, OK, but like in this like high school context, that's the only social outlet you have to be concerned with. It's pretty important. And then there's just homework in family. And there's so you're like, that's 50% of how much you care in your entire life. You know, I'm glad fucking social media thing wasn't a thing.
Starting point is 02:03:56 Oh, yeah. Yeah, it would be bad, but it feels like it feels like there would be a lot of when we were kids, we didn't have to deal with the danger of memes. Feels like a lot of this would help if you had more social circles and outlets to be involved with. So like the fact that I had like a church people and stuff to deal with. There was a whole other asset, some stuff. There was a football team and all the people that I knew there that I had to deal with.
Starting point is 02:04:24 Extra curricular activities with family. They help take maybe the edge off of high school. Summer camp has a whole bunch of other strangers. Oh, that seems more stressful than the neighbors and the people around, you know, like there's all these different social groups. And when you the more you juggle in that way, the more something bad happening with one of them gets spread out, doesn't matter as much.
Starting point is 02:04:47 Yeah, because you're like, oh, like when I zoom out, that's one thing in one group and like there's just so much else going on. And becoming an adult just makes that happen a whole bunch of times. So you realize that like, oh, fuck, that one interaction doesn't matter because that person is one of 100 people as opposed to one of the 30 in this class. And then you become like an older adult and you're like, none of these people in matter, it's just yeah, yeah. And then you become hyper isolated like that bully or that person
Starting point is 02:05:20 that like, you know, wasn't giving you the time of day or that mean teacher. It's like, you're not going to know I mean, like you bump into somebody on the street and you tell them to fuck off because you're never going to see them again. They could be dead tomorrow. There's someone from high school. Is it someone on a random person? So, you know, yeah, these these these conversations are always going to have one of that guy turns out to be an Uber driver to you and he drives you off
Starting point is 02:05:43 like a cliff and he'll get a bad review from the bottom of that cliff. I guess he would. I I was but it's an interesting movie to watch. If that's at all relatable to you in any way and stuff. I feel like looking at it, I'm like, man, there's always that that feeling I have of like, I definitely knew and was friends with people here. These people, yeah, I wasn't in this bad place.
Starting point is 02:06:10 Like my high school really didn't have that level of like, you know, to it. But, um, knowing, knowing, being close enough to the people that like I remember seeing that happen to and like, and again, the fact that like my girl was like, yeah, no, I remember trying to like make an impression here and then or like one day, like the popular pretty, super, pretty girl was like being super nice and then you were like, yeah. Hey, I'm like, but what? And then it was like, oh, because like she got in trouble for something
Starting point is 02:06:41 and she thought that like she could get her to sign off on like, like, like to approve to it to be an alibi for some shitty thing. And so she was acting really nice just to use her or whatever. And you're like, oh, man, yeah, like that I've seen it. I should have just trusted your fists. Yeah. Police will never help you. School hall monitors will never help you.
Starting point is 02:07:02 Well, fun watch if you're if you're going to try to try some of that. If you want to see teachers trying to be cool and whatnot. I don't want to see that. You described a movie that I couldn't want to watch less. It's the it's the best. I love it. I love enjoying that. And it's hilarious. And it's fucking relatable in there.
Starting point is 02:07:21 There are elements that you have described that have made me uncomfortable on this side of the table. Yeah. Hearing your description. Watamote. Watamote is too real, but it's not too, too real. If you know what I mean, because it's Japanese. No, because I knew that person and was friends with them.
Starting point is 02:07:37 But I wasn't them. I wasn't them because that's so nuts. There's there's I but I was I was like, yeah, you're describing right now is too real. Yeah. Yeah. No, thanks. Oh, no, do it. Do it. Do it. No, I'm good. Do it. Do it. Do it. Do it.
Starting point is 02:07:55 Um, anyway, let's get into. Hollow Knight's got this gold releases announced for all the platforms that we were surprised it wasn't on. That's nice. Well, let's start with like the screaming news. Mm, yes. The screaming news of the week is that when Gemritch 2 was announced, screams, fucking crazy.
Starting point is 02:08:20 I'm not surprised. Who's being developed by Dot M. Dot M. Why not? They've they've ported it. All right. Well, hey, that's the good one. No, they're not. No, it's not. It's bad.
Starting point is 02:08:32 The online play for that never fucking worked. OK, isn't it? Wait, isn't Dot Emu, the company that you and Liam had an ongoing feud with the metals on shit? God, you're taking what I just let me finish. My thing is real. OK. This is OK.
Starting point is 02:08:51 This is fucking derailed because what I'm when I said that's the good one, as in this was the one project that when I touched it immediately, it didn't feel like they thought that the elation was fine. Yes, everything else they've done has been a complete catastrophe. And I fucking hate it. Yes, obviously.
Starting point is 02:09:07 The last plate shit was awful. Locally, the metal slug shit was awful. What I'm saying is when I went to the booth and I went, oh, my God, oh, no, it's Dot M. You is this going to be garbage. I played it and I was like, no, it feels like Windjammers. OK, right? And then they added the extra shit and whatnot.
Starting point is 02:09:22 But I don't know about the online because I haven't tried the online, so I don't know. I didn't know that was bad. But I know that like all I'm saying is the emulation connect wasn't the complete mess. It was previously. And that's why I was like, OK, this is the one, the one, the good one they did.
Starting point is 02:09:37 They did the they, you know, they didn't fuck up Windjammers because I was so scared. Also considering that power was really my jam. They did that PS4 special port of Garot. And that was also unplayable. Completely. So everything else they did was the worst. Get excited. I kind of wish SNK was a bit in on this,
Starting point is 02:09:55 but I will not say that it's not fucking cool that that this exists. So if the online is shit, that sucks. This is the first I've heard of that. I only played locally, right? No. The the the the the amount of effort they put into that versus the other shit that just got dropped into emulators.
Starting point is 02:10:18 Also was like way more than they usually do. Plus, at least this seems like it has a nice animated like little video, this new sequel. So maybe they're going to put some more money in. Are you OK? I'm fine. OK. I was laughing because I almost fell down for no reason. I I'm unfortunately you didn't. But yeah, that's like obviously they've been
Starting point is 02:10:39 garbage with everything else. But yeah, that's excited now, though. So I'm hoping for good things, obviously. But I'm not surprised because it came back and it was such a hit on return that why wouldn't they? Or disc jam. Yeah. Yeah. Fly and flying, flying power disc and like it like disc jam.
Starting point is 02:10:59 But you know, it's it's weird. It's hard to really explain. It's in the same way that no one's been more fucked over than that. But it doesn't feel right. Doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. I just feel bad for him because I hate having that conversation with people. There's just because there's people that love wind jammers and love disc jam.
Starting point is 02:11:19 And I'm like, I don't want to be that guy. I don't want to be that guy. That's like, listen, it's not. It doesn't feel good. I think if they're enjoying it. But like, you know what I mean? And sometimes you just say it doesn't feel good if they're enjoying it. No, I don't want to be that guy that's being like you're having fun wrong, you know, but it's just like, unfortunately, you're being that guy right now. It wasn't what I wanted because the things I like about wind jammers
Starting point is 02:11:42 are is a specific feel. No, you're not you're not wrong. When we tell you it wasn't it didn't well, you're completely not wrong. But Matt's point is that like poor does jam because if none of this shit existed, you would just have to suck up the bad feel and enjoy it. You would. You would. But, you know, the the the story of the people for this jam, like having heads and hands as wind jammers was announced to return.
Starting point is 02:12:11 You know, that that's just the the moment capturing this entire saga. And it's like and it'll continue to be that. Oh, no, it happened right when we were doing it. And it's like this games existed for decades. The spiritual successor, you know, was was met with this. But you know what? Look how many spiritual successors to Power Stone we have now. And like there's a couple.
Starting point is 02:12:33 It would be as if like Power Stone officially got brought back. Good thing. It's a good thing that that'll never never. They're saying there was a PSP collection. That's the most we'll fucking 15 years ago and then some anime, you know. But no, it's so cool. This was announced very happy for for the the ambassador of wind jammers. Xavier Woods, Xavier Woods. He's going crazy over this.
Starting point is 02:12:55 Yeah, very odd that they all that they said was that they announced that twin jammers, too, is come. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, did you not see the teaser for this? No. OK, so the teaser that they put out is just an animated fucking wind jammers moment. That's not why I thought that it shows the Olympic Stadium in Montreal, Montreal Olympic Stadium. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:20 So maybe there's a Canada team or something. Hopefully maybe that maybe they've announced that this is coming to characters we're seeing, though, and PC only right now, which is very odd. Do the reverse of how the original came out. OK, so I don't know what you want. But visually, I would have no problem. I'd have no problem with Sonic Mania. Yeah, yep. No problem with that.
Starting point is 02:13:43 Sonic Mania showed off that it's a good way to do it. Same quality sprites, just more characters. Sonic Mania is totally higher quality sprites. OK, well, the same same on a screenshot. It's the same sprite in animation. It's nicer. But you understand what I mean. The visual style is keeping the old aesthetic.
Starting point is 02:14:01 It like make it look like a sequel that came out two years later. Not 20 years later. Yeah. Yeah. So here's what that's open for, but it's coming in 2019. I think the Switch version of Windjammer is one is there anything else that's coming out in 2019? A lot of things, actually, a whole bunch of announcements this week. So, frankly, that could be it.
Starting point is 02:14:23 Like, I don't know. I was actually going to go for the bloodstain one. Yeah, sure. That one sucks. I was going to go the Sekiro. There's the I didn't even catch that. So there's a lot. Let's roll through it. Bloodstain was announced today to be delayed to 2019.
Starting point is 02:14:39 The Vita version has been canceled. Hey, man. Take your time. There's at least one person out there that I could think of that is probably very bummed out by this news. Hey, everyone, Ega here. Two important announcements we'd like to make. The game will now launch in 2019. The game will no longer launch on PlayStation Vita.
Starting point is 02:14:56 It's unfortunate. But as a result, we won't be releasing the game on Vita for backers who ordered the Vita version of the game. You get to choose another platform or request a refund. And I love how he throws Sony under the bus specifically. Well, the platform is not going to. It doesn't exist anymore. I know, but he's just like, it's not you could still release it.
Starting point is 02:15:14 But he's like, we're not going to release it because it's not going to make money. Massive wasted film resources. Hey, man, let it cook, let it cook. So this is my fault. I'll apologize right now. I was talking to a friend of mine yesterday. I'm like, you should really play Hollow Knight.
Starting point is 02:15:28 And I'm like, and he goes, oh, yeah, but bloodstains coming out soon. I'm going to play that. I'm like, yeah, you should play Hollow Knight instead, though. And now it's the late. That's my fault. You know, Cursed the Moon was really good. It's extraordinarily good.
Starting point is 02:15:43 I like it very much. I mean, I like to say it wet the appetites somewhat, you know. Yes, very much so. But the fact that there is more replay than expected for a mini extra bonus fuck game is like, yeah, let this thing cook, man. Let it cook. This would sting a lot more if Cursed the Moon wasn't so good. And if you didn't have a ton of other choices happening right now
Starting point is 02:16:03 of like 2D platforming, Metroidvania-esque things going on. The problem with delaying this much, though, is that it better, better deliver. Yeah, because I'm sorry, as better, much better as this is and as good as Cursed the Moon is, it's like you're you're going to be compared to Mighty Number. Everyone's shoulders. That taint. Yeah. This is another Kickstarter giant, right? So there's like a year or two left.
Starting point is 02:16:29 There's not many left of this era. But this is what this is one of the ones that that are, you know, we've been waiting on for three and that's all I can think of it right now. But, you know, based on the demo that came out, like I'd be surprised if it didn't deliver. Yeah, no, me too. I mean, I enjoyed the demo. But yeah, it's unfortunate for this team. But it's like, yeah, I completely agree with Matt.
Starting point is 02:16:51 It's like Mighty Number Nine salted the earth so fucking bad that until every single thing that came out even near it of that era or that caliber associated with it, like there are everyone's always going to have like a little worry in the chest. But I have been seeing as a sentiment, maybe this is just like localized into our kitchen and it's not possible, not reflective of the fan base as a whole. But I feel as if people have been more understanding of games they're excited for being delayed these days. Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 02:17:23 Then they used to think so. There used to be a really plus instant anger results from a game announcement of a delay happening. These delays are very transparent with how the this Kickstarter is being run whereas like Mighty Number Nines are like very frustrating. Well, you still can't get an answer from anyone at Mighty Number Nine as to whether or not the 3ds or V diversions even exist. I love it. So I love this story.
Starting point is 02:17:47 You know, so so so people are also like we're all we're all living in the same world where we're spoiled for choice a lot of the time. So I think people are in general like one more understanding to less upset, especially when the explanation is like, yeah, like it just needs more time. You know, like it's almost like Mighty Number Nine like helped in a way were to set that almost kind of like set it off a little bit where it's like, you don't want another Mighty Number Nine. But yeah, that was delayed for like an extra year and a half.
Starting point is 02:18:14 A lot of it has to do with how you handle it to. Yeah, if you don't gave it. When was this slated to come out part of the delay? Last year? No, I mean, like recently, what was the current release day? The end of this year? It was it soon? Was it like it's a Castlevania game? Probably maybe even October. I don't know if it had an actual because that's the only thing
Starting point is 02:18:34 that ever really bugs me about delays anymore is when you get to that point like a month out where you're like excited and then they delay it like a year and you're like, oh, I think if you never give a month, you're OK to delay it like you shouldn't be that much higher. Hmm. Just go down a release. Yeah. No. No, this this this fucking article is too updated. It's already talking about it.
Starting point is 02:19:04 Damn it, Wiki. Yeah. Oh, well. But anyway, like, like, yeah, we live in a place now where it really is. Well, you're like, no, no skin off my back, you know? Yeah, like, for example, Monster Hunter, it had a release date of fall and then it had a release date of the first week of August and you can tell that it they should have held it till like maybe end of September because the PC ports got issues. So so like you're you're and again, your your your your chart has its don't do this.
Starting point is 02:19:37 Only villains do this versions of Mighty Number Nine, the Half Life Three. Oh, you have to exist to it. It did exist. That's the worst up until recently. Would I be correct in saying Kingdom Hearts? Three? Absolutely. OK, Hearts Three, like Final Fantasy versus 13 held that crown. And then Kingdom Hearts Three got it when 15 came out and then when when Kingdom Hearts Three comes out, that he's going to give that fucking time
Starting point is 02:20:09 crown over to FF seven time. There's always a time. There's always a passing of the time baton. Yeah, the torch goes on. I like time crown. The time for tea, tea, wear on their head. You're you're the king of delays. Dumb cloth. And hey, they're all like it's all that's really bad to me
Starting point is 02:20:27 because that's all within the same company. And yeah, it's depressing for the same reasons most of the most of the time, too. Like, I, you know, I don't play 14 as much anymore. But when I was super into that, like, you get to see development a lot more closely a lot of times because you're following dev updates and you just see like, oh, this patch is short because they pulled people off it to work on this 15 DLC or whatever. Like Square Enix has like very little distinction between like projects.
Starting point is 02:20:57 So this needs to come out now. Kingdom Hearts Three. Yeah. That means people are getting pulled off of shit that's in the future, like probably Final Fantasy seven to all hands on deck. So when Kingdom Hearts comes out and it hands the time crown over to FF seven, what happens, Matt? What do we hear? Time extended.
Starting point is 02:21:17 You know what I was going to say? You know, you know what happens? You get time extended. Do you know what happens? The instant the time crown is passed to FF seven, they announced that, hey, look, development on FF seven is really ramping out. And then the next E3, they announced a remake of some other. No, they announced.
Starting point is 02:21:37 They announced Final Fantasy 16 with a non-release date. And then that is the new game that they can pass the time crown to when the remake comes out. I was going to say FF six or some sort of. No, you can't. You can't go like Square. Talk about Corona Square Enix always has a game that is finally going to release soon and a game that will never come out. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:08 People need to die before Chrono Trigger can go anywhere. People need to die so Chrono can live. That's the lie. There's a couple of lives that have to end until that that gets big. Falls are really effective for Chrono Trigger because time based. Yeah, right. But so probably FF six would would be the next most. Desired. No, six just needs a good version.
Starting point is 02:22:32 There's currently no true to. There's currently no actual good version of FF six. I would like the devs of Octopath Traveler like they six to look like Octopath six has this really bizarre thing where the original translation is not great. So they fixed it later versions, but those versions have like bad sound or that version has the extra features. And like there's no definitive version of that really shitty Chrono Trigger
Starting point is 02:22:55 steam that we'll see. I was going to say at the very least trigger has the good re-release on on DS, which is now super rare. And I bought it. Bought it when it came out and held that shit. I don't know. But then and then you got the mobile garbage later on. But there are there are existing ports that, you know, are not the
Starting point is 02:23:14 Super Nintendo cartridge six. I didn't realize that was it's super weird because every other Final Fantasy game of the early ones, they all have definitive versions. Was it not a PlayStation one release at some point? That was of what sex. Yeah, a legendarily terrible version. Really? The PS one. I'm thinking of PS one Chrono Trigger with the loading time.
Starting point is 02:23:34 Yes, yeah, you are. Yeah, same problem. Same same problem with the FF five version. Same thing with the FF four version was annoying. Those PS one games are awful. They are bad. That fucking like couple seconds you wait running into an enemy. And then oh, dude,
Starting point is 02:23:53 do that, hit triangle, wait eight seconds for the menu to pop. Yeah, unplayable, like KOF. Some of the best games of all time. Just straight up technically ruined. But we put anime cutscenes into it, though. Did you see the anime or the CG cutscene? OK, so there is a GBA port. That version is hideous because it's GBA.
Starting point is 02:24:18 So we have to compress the shit out of it. No, I think they changed. Wait, is it the art they changed on that one or the fucking music? Is the music music up on that one? Yeah, I would have to be. So but it has a better translation. Oh, no. Oh, that's the worst. And now there's bits and pieces of quality.
Starting point is 02:24:35 Yeah, no, so it's broken. Oh, the GBA version has bad sound. The SNES version has a bad translation. And the PC version is have you seen it? No, it is hideous. OK, they ruined every single art asset in the entire. So this, you know what this means then? This means that like if you're looking at a number of ports
Starting point is 02:24:58 of like varying degrees of bad quality, but then like something like the translation is better over here and stuff, you need a Christian whitehead and that's the only way to save it is like a super fan who knows which bits and pieces are to be saved from each individual thing. Like like take fancy tactics. You know what the best way to play tactics is now? You emulate it on the PSP with a patch to fix the frame rate. Oh, the PSP version.
Starting point is 02:25:20 Yeah, yeah, because it's easier to fix the frame rate on that than it is to hack in the new translation into the PS1 CD iso, which I have done. And that's a pain in the ass. It's a lot easier to emulate the PSP version. And that's also on widescreen, but it's like that annoys me that there is no definitive version of like some of these classics. Like wouldn't it be nice if you say, hey, which version? Hey, which version is Shining Force two?
Starting point is 02:25:50 Do I play the Genesis version? Why? Because it's the only version that exists. So at least that's simple. All right. So then, yeah, just get what's the best version of Chrono Trigger? You get get fucking what should we call it? Octopathic. Yeah. Acquire. I guess that's a serious question for you.
Starting point is 02:26:11 What's the best version of Chrono Trigger? Yes, for sure. Except for the ending that ties it to Chrono Cross. I don't mind that ending sucks. Many people. They get there's many endings. Yeah, but that's the penultimate. No, I know, I know, I know.
Starting point is 02:26:24 But you know what? That's that's a small fucking like problem price to pay for. Hey, look, great scheme all the time here. We're going to smear some feces on it at the end. Loading times are no. I'd say the best version of Chrono Trigger is the SNES port. Now, hmm, SNES port. Yeah, fuck me.
Starting point is 02:26:42 That is a terrible thing that I didn't say anything. I was just going to let that rock. Yeah, the fucking the add on the fucking baby is it's not that bad, dude. It's what are you doing? He just hates Chrono Cross. It's a meme. I know. OK, no, it's not a meme. Yeah, it can't be true.
Starting point is 02:26:58 Because no, they can like in it because it's a it's a real discussion. Which version of Chrono Trigger is the best? And I'm like, it's the it's the Nintendo DS one. Just don't do that last thing. No, I like to do. I stand by DS one. No, do the last thing. Well, he says, fuck you.
Starting point is 02:27:13 I'm playing the Chrono Cross battle theme on the music this week. What else came? What else? What's the last time you listen to that? I've listened to it every day. At least in January or February of this month of this year. Why? Because it's a great song. Are you wait, the core battle theme?
Starting point is 02:27:27 Are you? Duh, duh, duh. Duh, duh, duh. Just. Duh, duh, duh. And I'm and I'm supposed to be the one that hates music. I'm supposed to be the one that hates music. And I'm sitting here across the table from
Starting point is 02:27:45 hand, defending the battle theme from Chrono Cross. One of the most legendarily awful fucking random battle music. Do you have any other release dates for 2019? We do. We have the physical versions of Death's Gambit and Hollow Knight. Oh, OK. So on the platforms we talked about, they weren't on and how it was weird
Starting point is 02:28:11 that they weren't on those platforms. Death's Gambit coming as Xbox One Switch physical release date late 2018, early 2019. I'll get the switch version. It's everything coming to switch. Adult swims putting it out there. They're doing what they do. Um, they have a fucking.
Starting point is 02:28:25 They got a good lineup of games. Is starting to start to build up a little pool panic game. I read about it. They're building up a library and battle chef brigade and. And yeah, Hollow Knight, pretty much the exact same announcement coming to PS4, Xbox One, alongside physical edition, spring 2019. Maybe a funny announcement. It's like with this announcement, we are taking away the switch version.
Starting point is 02:28:51 Delisted for it. What? Why? Oh, just shut up. So in my mind, that spring release says, hey, maybe that's when the Hornet campaign will drop. Hey, maybe that's when these bugs will be addressed in Death's Gambit. Oh, I thought you meant in Hollow Knight, because like that's what you're supposed to do in the death's gambit is being like some bugs.
Starting point is 02:29:10 Is being bug jokes like patched regularly. I'm not sure if you saw hope so. They've been patched, haven't. Yeah, I haven't been up to date on it as much. But I know, like, because I mean, fuck, when I was playing dead cells, it was like being made as I was playing it. To the point where I booted it up after early access. They're like, thanks for playing the early shit.
Starting point is 02:29:29 You're losing all your progress. No, I killed your save game. I hope you don't mind. But, you know, and like it had to be done, but they actually didn't. You it's still there. But it's like we really recommend you start a new save because you won't recognize the game anymore. You know, and to be fair, it's true.
Starting point is 02:29:45 The one that the save I'd been playing on for the longest while was beyond obsolete by the time I started a new one. Yeah, it was crazy. I got used to some some room patterns that have long since been fucking nuked. But yeah, death's gambit and Hollow Knight coming out. That reminds me fucking Isaac at one point when I was playing it, got a patch that said we've removed this room from being it was some room that could spawn that was impossible to complete.
Starting point is 02:30:13 Oh, God, it's like it would just have enemies that we could shoot at you from behind like invincible items or some shit. And it was just actually impossible to complete. By the way, I don't know if you guys are you aware of the the way classes work in death's gambit? I know very little, honestly. Oh, I know what what I know, because it has a very like, again, Dark Souls ask a version of like you pick your classes in the beginning and you start with a weapon in different stats, right?
Starting point is 02:30:41 You get to melt mold your character into a way to the fucking death's gambit wiki looks like fucking Foxtra life. It is Foxtra life. OK, it literally is. I was like, wow, they're really diving into the fucking Dark Souls shit. They're sitting on the Foxtra life wiki. So what's cool about the classes in death's gambit, though, like the statue thing you're telling me before.
Starting point is 02:31:06 Yeah, so that's an aspect specific to what I was when I was talking about with the the Acolyte of Death, but I just I just it just came to mind as an interesting thing. OK, if you pick soldier, you get your sword, you get your stats set as sword and shields, you set up for a soldier, so that's doing this game. Haste is is it like arrows? Your brain is a projectile speed. It might be.
Starting point is 02:31:30 Yeah, here you go. Abilities that bows are cast abilities and bows. OK, cool. Yeah. So what's cool is soldier, you pick you get you get your sword and shield and your fucking like the same way, but also blocking attacks gives you soul energy. Oh, so it is a real class assassin dodging dodging attacks gives you soul energy. Blood Knight regain when you recently lose bloodborne style damage regain.
Starting point is 02:31:55 Wizard is using a healing. Felix Feather will give you soul energy. OK, OK. Noble is using items gives you soul. Sentinel parrying gives you soul and then Acolyte of Death killing gives you soul. Right. So like it's an actual mechanical difference. So you didn't take sense. I did not. Wow, because Acolyte of Death, Acolyte of Death has this has a scythe
Starting point is 02:32:19 and I wanted to swing a scythe around because parrying is cool. You can still parry in the others things, but I wanted as a weapon. I don't usually use and of all these loadouts I had seen and done them. But I had I don't remember ever really getting a chance to fuck around with a scythe outside of that souls one. And so I was like, yeah, let me do this as you don't often see a main character with a scythe. Yeah. So, yeah, I did that. But that's a cool aspect of the game that to character action
Starting point is 02:32:43 case for you have a sight. There are. But how many more have a sword? Zero. He's right. There are no character action games in which you play as a character using a sword. As you go to that double made crime, five wallpaper. Giant swords and I will say it's actually extremely rare to play a game in which you are, I would say they're probably zero character action games in which you play as a character with a sword and shield.
Starting point is 02:33:11 Hmm. Right. Hmm. Maybe, I don't know. I mean, do you count like when Kratos gets the pair? No. OK, well, the heavenly sword. Heavenly sword doesn't have no shield. I don't know. I don't fucking know. Metal Wolf. No. XD delayed to mid 2019.
Starting point is 02:33:34 It happens. So at least it now now, now, now, now, now. This is one of those games where I'm like, no, nobody cares. No, no, no. At least it broken. No, it has to be cooked slowly in a fine toothed oven. What am I saying? Over overseen by my by Richard Hawke. Yeah, that was pretty pretty dumb.
Starting point is 02:33:57 I'm I'll be I'll be real. I'm still shaking it off from a few days ago. Sure. When I when I did the eight hours, you're probably thinking of like a clay oven or something. Because when I went to when I went to bed at like seven or eight a.m. that day, I couldn't fall asleep. So I stayed up most of that day. Well, eight hours of fucking bugs will do that.
Starting point is 02:34:18 But yeah, so that that's just getting pushed back a little bit, unfortunately. They didn't specify a month, though, so we didn't know how late. It could be December of next year. And they I think they just said originally is just going to be out in 2018, I think. But you know what you don't have to wait for? Frame fighter. What? Frame fighter. So it's this non news.
Starting point is 02:34:42 I talked about this on stream. The thing that I actually like to talk to Woolly about the nature of why we are not going to do this for fisticuffs. Well, so I got and I got the gist of why, based on how you unlock characters in this thing. Yeah, um, randomly by finding frame fighter, the fighting game that was introduced into Warframe with an idea that was created by one of our fans
Starting point is 02:35:05 who literally gave them the idea to make this. Isn't this like when someone took overwatch and like try to make it into a fighting game? Is it similar? This is the gestation of the local dude that like made a basically like a fake screenshot of this and put up a hide and put up all this and put the characters in it. Wouldn't it be cool, right?
Starting point is 02:35:27 And then like, I didn't know that part. And we talked and yeah, and like he shot me a DM about it. And like we talked about like what like the HUD should look like and stuff. And like, eventually, you know, made a final design and put it out there and it fucking flew around. And then go was this. This was a couple long before this thing even existed. No, I mean, like many long talked about Warframe at length the last time.
Starting point is 02:35:50 I mean, if I don't know when the DM came in, but like, I just, well, that just seems that's very quick turnaround. So I'm saying get excite for the puddle of that. Our toe gets to stick in in the inception of this. The idea coming to fruition. But you're saying it's like it's impossible to unlock all the characters basically the map. OK, so here's the deal. So I need to grind, rep to even unlock the the frame fighter cabinet
Starting point is 02:36:17 in the game that would take like a couple days because you can only get so much rapid day. Then you only get three starter characters. Every other character and you can unlock every single frame in the game is just a randomly placed item that you would scan in the completely randomized map that every level takes place in. And it may not spawn in the map that you load in it on.
Starting point is 02:36:40 So getting all the characters will take me a long time. You know, Pat, it's almost as if like it would be helpful if someone were to send in a login with some cool unlocked frame fighter characters that we could play for. All right, the second problem is that it is trash. But I guess that's never stopped us before. I don't know how viable or whatever that is, but in my head, it was like if there were a temporary way to play
Starting point is 02:37:14 as a lot of the different frames in a video and then hand that back to a noble generous soul. I don't know. That feels weird. I don't know. We I could really fuck that person's account up. Well, that's why you wouldn't get it. Then don't I would you could fuck the account up by not knowing how to fuck it.
Starting point is 02:37:31 Well, I won't. I'll literally take step by steps on where to go to play the frame fighter and then if they if they wanted to do it properly, they would get the arcade cabinet thing instead of just unlocking it. And they would just dump it in their orbiter and you would just walk over to it and that would be that. Oh, OK. But but accessing the different frames, though.
Starting point is 02:37:51 Yeah, it's it's personal progress. It's personal progress. Yeah. So, you know, yeah. But anyway, that's all. I don't know. One could play as all the frames of the player, two can suck it. The amount of people that were excited for us to take a look at this makes me think there might be someone out there.
Starting point is 02:38:05 Who knows? Maybe maybe. But frame fighter is real now. Not as I thought this was a I just saw a screenshot. I thought this was a proof of concept. So like some guy just modded the game over the course over. It's been a story over the course of maybe four or five podcasts now. And oh, but now it's really now it's public and out there. The last time I brought it up is because they made a cabinet.
Starting point is 02:38:29 The time before that is because they made it and showed it on stream. And the time before that was when the guy first made the screenshot and then the the devs went, oh, fuck, that's cool. The and then responded to it. The resources they poured into this are super weird because the game plays like trash and controls like shit. But you your custom frame carries over. So it's got all that stuff.
Starting point is 02:38:55 And if you own the prime version of a frame, it's a selectable toggle in the game. Like it's one of those things like you didn't spend any time on this, but it's super feature rich over here. Will the move list change if you have every character plays differently? Oh, OK. And these are like there's a limited number of frames, of course. Yeah, but it's like 35. That's OK. So yeah, it's a roster. Yeah, yeah. And I mean, it's again, it's a bonus ass free thing.
Starting point is 02:39:18 But I think it's fucking like cool. Don't forget, there's also a version of Flappy Bird in that game. Yes, a sports ball. Yes, in that game. Yes. There is a I think there's a Galaga clone in there as well. There's all sorts of weird stupid shit. Hey, I'm more than willing to, you know, do the what needs to be done to set this up so that there's no headache on you guys. Sit down and play the fucking stuff.
Starting point is 02:39:41 We do it. It's going to take like a hundred hours for you to reach like the end of the star chart. What are you talking about? So I'm more than willing to do the fucking. I've sat and toggled with emulators for longer. Don't worry about it. I know we've played worse. We've done worse. What else is going on? We've got the announcement of.
Starting point is 02:40:05 I mean, look, I don't know if this is actually what this means, but THQ Nordic somehow acquired TimeSplitters, which I'm still confused about. I thought they had it already. I thought THQ died here. Here's a huge Nordic is not THQ. It used to just be Nordic and they bought the THQ name. That's weird because they bought so many of the THQ franchise. I don't like one. They might as well just take it like infogrames.
Starting point is 02:40:33 They have darksiders now. OK, right. So it's not actually Atari. It's just they just took the name. It's one of those weird, very weird that you can do that. But if the company is dead, no one can stop you from wearing skin. The weird thing is, though, is that Free Radical was bought by someone and became like, oh, God, something there. Who are they bought by?
Starting point is 02:40:53 The Free Radical is bought by the crisis by bought by Crytek. That's right here. Yeah. Yes. Good. So but as far as I knew, the Crytek had like the rights to they let fans start making a Time Splitters project and it was basically let the fans do it. We don't care. And we'll supervise or give some advice. It will be produced under the deep silver label as part of the Koch media family under THQ Nordic.
Starting point is 02:41:23 It'll likely involve re-releases. And Time Splitters is fucking awesome. It's fucking awesome. Well, step one is, in fact, re-release it. And then step two is talking about Time Splitters one or three. No, three's got some stuff. Yeah. Second. But who's the one? Who's the one?
Starting point is 02:41:38 But three has a good single player. Second site is also part of the deal. Sure. So, you know. Second site is a game I never rented. I looked at it and I'm like, yeah, maybe. I don't know. But I never wound up playing it. Oh, that thing. Yeah. It's the not it's the not PsyOps game.
Starting point is 02:42:01 Not PsyOps, the Mindgate conspiracy. And it's not Geist either. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, there was I fucking this is one where you stare at the cover and you keep you keep walking. I think this game had a neat story or whatever, but it was just like a stealth game with some sci-fi powers. And I hated your main character.
Starting point is 02:42:19 But I remember I remember I always thought I was confused with PsyOps, too. Oh, man. But yeah, second sites graphics. We just took a look at it. That just defines a whole. That was a bad period of it, to be fair. Yeah, but you know what I mean? Like the really flat shading or really like, but the first curves in a game.
Starting point is 02:42:39 Sons of Liberty, Project Snow Blind. And then like looked better. But yeah, I mean, weird, but sure. I'm just glad that someone officially said, yeah, we're doing a thing because. Yeah, I was I was kind of worried that time splitters would fall into that trap that System Shock did where it gets absorbed by some insurance company and then is just dead for decades.
Starting point is 02:43:00 It's amazing. They even got the rights because it's like EA. No, did EA always have it or wasn't somebody else? You know what I'm thinking? I'm thinking of burnout. You are. They bought burnout. So let's just chill it. Yeah. So with the delays in the 2019s out of the way, there's some stuff that's actually happening in a couple of days.
Starting point is 02:43:18 Well, if you didn't get the news story already, just one of them is say this too. But Securo got its release date of March 22nd next year. Right before I end the fiscal quarter. Cool. But that's it. Like, that's all the news. There's no videos or anything. So do we know one that that whatever other from soft house game is about or is coming out of VR game, the VR one? No, I haven't heard anything from them.
Starting point is 02:43:42 That's probably farther out. OK, so, yeah, Securo 2019, March, the messenger gets a release date and that release date is like next week. So it's pretty much next week, 10 days from now. I have recently been informed that, in addition, you Kewami 2 is coming out next week, which is really painful because I still haven't finished five. I'm now three games behind and you give it.
Starting point is 02:44:04 Oh, wow. Never again back. Yeah. So, I mean, how much of this game do you spend in 8 bit? I was about to ask. The trailer breakdown makes it feel like the 16 bit part is exactly like the dark world in Metroid, where things are different in the 16 bit world. So as much as you think you need to travel back. But it is 50 50. I don't know if it's 50 50, but it's one of those things
Starting point is 02:44:31 where all he has to do is run through a portal and that part of the level then be different and because it's it's actually time. Like things are broken or repaired, whatever it is. So how do you know that's so good that it's time? Oh, man. So having played this at Paxies, this is like my like most anticipated like indie sort of thing. Like it is the new Shovel Knight.
Starting point is 02:44:58 So there's a state. Just switch out Mega Man or Capcom type games and put it to Ninja Gaiden. So it's like fun to play. Well, it's the way you're switching between the way you're switching between the two, like with without like a border is a lot like Guacamele's like multi dimensions as well. Yeah. You know, it'd be really crazy. Well, the sequel automatically goes 16 bit to 32.
Starting point is 02:45:22 Oh, no one's beating the game. No, I know. But like, you know, you don't know what's in there. But like straight up. Yeah, if you're hiding some fucking polygons in this game, then I don't know what it would what I would switch to would be like Saturn looking 2D, right as the third one. Thirty two. Yeah. Yeah. But no polygons, just like, I mean, unless the polygons were like
Starting point is 02:45:45 objects in the 2D world, like think of this. Think of the fucking save rooms and like or the final final boss is like looks like Dark Souls. Like that gives me there's a lot of places. There's a yeah, you're playing at. Yeah, the moment you see it, you start thinking. But either way, the messenger looks fucking rad. We'll find out in 10 days, we will.
Starting point is 02:46:04 Is the message? It's just the message is next time I won't miss. The long way to go. You have to go to the top of a mountain. Welcome to coming out. Well, that's our next news story, Pat. Guacamelee to even sooner. What as it comes out on the twenty first tomorrow, literally tomorrow.
Starting point is 02:46:29 I did not know that. I thought it was like later this year. So we start with delays. We get into twenty nineteen and then we slowly work it back until we're announcing tomorrow, maybe some of y'all are done of hearing it. But I think Hollow Knight's expansion comes out on Friday. OK, God's God master. Well, we return to the Mexiverse
Starting point is 02:46:49 and Juan is back with what seems to be there's actually like a third and fourth player character now. And the chosen one returns. Yeah, I like that. So a nice Paul driver. Yeah, so, you know, it looks like more guacamelee with some some cooler stuff. It looks prettier when it comes to the lighting effects. You've got Pollo moves now.
Starting point is 02:47:12 Oh, yeah. So more guacamelee. What can I say? But in my head, it's definitely a like the multiplayer aspect of it now is kind of like, yeah, that's the way to have fun with it. Like you can definitely get a full single action oriented than a lot of the other ones. Like the there's some platforming.
Starting point is 02:47:30 You know, but what I mean is like the fighting got a lot of stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the combo system is right. It's like it's so so to to and it felt better with the co-op. So it makes sense to like kind of turn in on that. And and not only that, but the combo juggles that you do with each other are like elaborate as fuck sometimes. Like because there are so many of these coming out and they're so high quality, it makes sense for them to all just kind of play with their strengths.
Starting point is 02:47:57 It also helps that guacamelee has like a unique like hell. Yeah, it's a style and just like, you know, where it's what it's going for. But there's a whole lot of like like juggle the fuck out of a dude and then toss the corpse over to you and you catch it and then do your own shit. Like it's really fun. The Maxiverse, guys can't have more luchadors. Sorry, I can't have enough luchadors. That's what I meant to say.
Starting point is 02:48:21 Don't you dare? What a great fucking design one is. Yeah, man. It's all like tusks, tusks, luchador costume, too. It's like the opposite of that kudu luchador, the fucking phone company one. Oh, no, it's actually really similar. But it's like that's that's a bad version of. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, well, because it's a it's a phone company version.
Starting point is 02:48:47 They they drop that dude, too. Surprising, no one is like such a badly fucking hidden blizzard finally reveals Diablo three eternal collection for the switch with a frankly worrying trailer. Did you see it? What was wrong with it? How many enemies are on the screen in any of those shots? I don't know. Well, it's important because it's fucking Diablo.
Starting point is 02:49:09 OK, right. I mean, a bit right. This ran on the PS three for fuck's sake. Yeah. So I don't think I think it'll be that PS three couldn't get undocked, though. So like they did something, some skit with Reggie for this announcing trailer. Yeah, what was it?
Starting point is 02:49:28 It's Reggie hanging out and then Kaplan from is that Kaplan? I forget. Whatever it says, Mike. Super not. Mike Bohem. Yeah, the nerd from Blizzard's like, hey, so you want to play Diablo and then Reggie's like, oh, yeah, sick Diablo. I want to play that seven year old game with you.
Starting point is 02:49:45 It's a great game. It's sure. More importantly, like who's not dropping shit on the switch now? Right. Like, come on. I'm you know what? You know what makes me happy about the switch? People got to this one a lot faster than they got to the Wii. Remember when the Wii was the most popular shit ever, but then it took like
Starting point is 02:50:04 never before a lot of support came for it. Well, because the hype was garbage games to the most part. And then when something good came along, it was never really the hype. Marketed that well, hyped up enough. The hype came from Wii Sports, right? And then that wasn't like a port your games now hype. It was a make new like wacky physics shit hype. You know, plus indie games are in a very different space now.
Starting point is 02:50:31 And then they were back then. Like or not indie games, but like smaller scale things. Now, like a lot of stuff can be released on all consoles where it was never true with the Wii, especially digitally. Yeah. And we were so far behind. Power wise, the power just everything. But like we end to the point that like, well, yeah, the store was. And Matt, Matt, when it did happen, we would make note of it and talk about
Starting point is 02:50:53 like Ivy the Kiwi and a boy in his blog, Zach and Wiki. But like it was it was I did. We did. No, we did. Hey, Gannon's in the idea. I kind of wish they showed that in a cooler way than just have this idiot just standing there like an action figure towards the end. Like I'm a posing to get that hero. A little panache there.
Starting point is 02:51:14 But that looks like a Gannon. But yeah, that that that somebody played a lot of Diablo three. Like maybe it's a nitpick, but it's like there. I don't think there's a single shot in that trailer in which you see more than like four or five enemies, which is like you're supposed to be fighting like 500 guys on the street screen in some parts. I'd say more. Most important thing about this trailer is we have a new exploitable.
Starting point is 02:51:41 Yeah. Which was that includes Gannon, Dwarf, Armorset. Fuck yeah, that's true. Oh, I didn't even throw it in with funky mode. See it. Throw it in with Dante. Yeah. Throw it in. I still think my favorite remix of that is the DMC five box. It says featuring Demi Fiend from the SMT series. Right. Right. Right. If only.
Starting point is 02:52:02 But yeah, do you imagine that deal still ongoing? Oof. Unless you saw it, like with this announcement, Blizzard. Blizzard is just talking nonstop about Nintendo and they had a quote recently or I'm like, really? They're like, oh, we'd love it if Diablo can be in fucking Smash Brothers. You fuck you. You've abandoned this company for like 20 years.
Starting point is 02:52:25 And you think that you're one of your guys. It's gonna wall it's gonna waltz in Diablo. The last game they released on the Nintendo platform is fucking Starcraft. Like, get out of here. That being said, Diablo is a pretty big character. Blackthorn. Yeah. Blackthorn in the game. By the way, don't don't don't think I don't remember both the also.
Starting point is 02:52:48 Oh, yeah, getting in a hot super bad when Blackthorn comes out. I fucking will. Yeah, every day we get closer. Zarya Zarya got me to install it. Still Zarya got me to install it. It's got to know. Yeah, it's Blackthorn. It's not happening.
Starting point is 02:53:02 She got me to install it and and master Zarya got me to do the fucking quest. Yeah, so I did the quest and I got my thing. Cool. But I didn't know that. Congrats. Yeah, I did that. I played it once to get my my overwatch skins. What a smart thing to trick people with. A completely different thing. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:53:23 Yeah, smart. Fuck. Fucking Diablo, you have Ridley. You don't need a Diablo. It's basically Diablo. You know what? You know what? Hmm, actually, that's give Ridley a color that's red. You know what? You're most of the way there.
Starting point is 02:53:45 Get an echo fighter. Yeah, mecha Ridley for like one of the alts. And then I'd be an asshole and I'd be like, I want Diablo one Diablo. We're all weird muscular. Yeah, I don't like the fucking insectoid Diablo. Like, like, like Blackthorne would have these childbearing hips. Blackthorne would just have this time. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:54:06 I just thought they'd just change the design. No, no, like the the new character they added, Leah, she turns into Diablo. Oh, of course. I never finished Diablo. Blackthorne would just fucking do the thing where he leans on the wall and now he's invincible for a couple of seconds while he's hiding. And he's got a shotgun in his hand. It'd be great. God, it'd be great. Weirdly enough, Diablo 3 is one of those games where I'm like, I've never been it.
Starting point is 02:54:29 I own a lore book for it and I love that book. What the fuck is this? Yeah. Have you seen this in most? No. Watch this trailer. So this is a new 2D like horror game that takes place in three different time periods. Just came out of nowhere. So in most is the name of this. It's from Chucklefish. And if you take a look, there's a new announcement for it.
Starting point is 02:54:52 We're checking the trailer out here by Hidden Layer Games. I guess Chucklefish is something else. Anyway, yeah, very, very pretty lighting. Chucklefish is a publisher of Sprite qualities. Pretty solid here. Like the environments, especially in the games, like almost black and white. Octopath, traveler style. Advanced coloring effects over like old school sprites.
Starting point is 02:55:19 Yeah, so I think you control three different characters in three different time periods. Very pretty. This looks like a fucking very very spiritual successor to Eternal Darkness. Wow. OK, yeah. Vic fan of these 2D games coming out like the Super Nintendo continues to exist. So it says in most has a trio of protagonists. Keep them all safe from shadowy beasts and like the things they're fighting are just like these moving, lurking shadows.
Starting point is 02:55:47 The Sprite stuff on display with that shadow monster is a plus. It really just looks like like like Venom-esque. Yeah. Symbiote blur attacks are coming at them. Yeah, man. And again, Octopath level of like lighting things happening as well. It's we're just describing the pretty visuals of it. But really, you should just go. It looks real good. Go check out the trailer for I and M.O.S.T. in most.
Starting point is 02:56:14 Currently, it's PC only and supposed to be next year. I'm sure the next platform it'll come out on is the switch. The Xbox 360. That's an interesting name, too. Yeah, there's a real obvious in Smith kind of thing. The iteration on that could be could be. But also, I bet it'll be about the in most of the dungeon or whatever, but also of your solar.
Starting point is 02:56:40 Yeah, man, dude, where's Cappy's fucking below? It's they started talking. Holy shit, that didn't come out. Where the fuck is where the fuck is they started coming? I just I will tell you. Yeah, they started talking about it again. But about a year ago, they said we are currently just pausing it. Oh, wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:57:01 And now it's been a year. So now they're like, OK, we're talking about it again. Did they just I don't I don't know the details. I just know that like, all right. So now we've they showed it at a show. They show it with confidence because they let you sit and play it for an hour. You've had children in the time that this is I remember sitting behind people playing this was like, are they going to get up hours of that game?
Starting point is 02:57:24 And the gun, yeah. And the and the the reps are like, maybe, maybe not. We don't know. Like it was very much like if you're coming in line to play below, if you're not the first six people in line, you might not play it that day. But, um, yeah, it still looked like cool. I'm wondering, geez. Well, if they're talking about it now, did they say anything about like
Starting point is 02:57:44 it was kind of like we're we're pausing it and we're going to like reevaluate it. Oh, but so we're not going to talk about it for a while. OK. And now it's been a while. So. Well, you know, what else has been a while? And now we're talking about it deep down, fucking uppers. Yeah. Well, we were. This is like last week, right? Yeah, but this is just when it was leaked on it.
Starting point is 02:58:09 It was a leaked weird. Is this happening state thing? Now it's super happening. It's not coming to the media. It's like it's dragged out of hell from the super dead. Well, as the way I like, as the way I put it, the award for I live, bitch, game announcement, yeah, uppers coming out for PS4 and PC. That's shocking. Again, if you don't know what this is, go check out the quick look we did two years ago.
Starting point is 02:58:35 Yeah, I want to say so. Maybe this game is fucking radical. It's very cool. One of the worst selling games ever in Japan, in Japan of all time. Could be as I don't know. You get you get buffs when you get like launched into a girl's 19th 2016. In fact, it's been two years to the day. Plus one.
Starting point is 02:59:01 Since we did the uppers. Quick look. Some rat art got done for this. Right. I don't know by who I don't recognize the artist. Is that not a dipod? I know I'm making a dipod. I was like, that's what it is. It is. It is really good art.
Starting point is 02:59:16 That's funny. I'm trolled him like that. No, you got him. I'm I'll give this game a fucking go. I don't know why that because it was I didn't get a chance to go hands on of that because it was on the beat. Yeah. Yeah. When I doji, I doji.
Starting point is 02:59:33 Didoji playable. Absolutely. The fucking Queen Banjo. The Queen. Yes, Queen. Queen bait, Queen D, which sounds weird. But yeah, no, she's fucking sick. That's a design for all ages. The so that, yeah, we had the messenger, we had winch embers. We had inmost time splitters, uppers and this week.
Starting point is 03:00:00 It's August. Well, it's everything in the house because it's also games commons. Like, yeah, games, games commons happening this week. That's right. That's why. Oh, DMC five is playable at the show. So we're going to see games. Yes, tons of so it's a hero.
Starting point is 03:00:14 Yeah, tons of footage of that. I also saw a new thing about life is strange, too, is a completely different story. And it's two brothers that accidentally kill a cop and they're on the run. Awesome. Yes, that's that's the details. I've seen anthology anthology. Yes, it's a lot easier to do in games when you don't have to worry about throwing away all your big name actors.
Starting point is 03:00:38 No, it doesn't matter what your medium is, man. It does matter. It does, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe. That is nothing. It's free to change. Hand and pen. When you can write a good story and or film a good story or anime and a good story
Starting point is 03:01:00 or play a good story, such a wrong and the story wraps up and is done and you don't have anywhere else to go with it. When you have to tack more on, it'll it'll it can be good, but there's a chance it can be bad. And the sequel can also do that, too. But I think more things should just not be not feel the need to stretch where they don't need to. That's what I say.
Starting point is 03:01:21 Yeah, and it's a lot harder to do that when you have to worry about the big name actors that it is brought on to your project, which is all the set work, which is why I get mad at Iraq. Which is why I appreciate it when it happens. All right. Because it's it's all it is harder to do, but it means that you did it for the better fucking results. So what I'm doing, people at home, is I'm combining Willie's
Starting point is 03:01:47 unsaid statement of with Stranger Things was an anthology and combining that with the statement of like, see, look, Joe, Joe changes. You know, I actually I actually I actually wasn't thinking Stranger Things until like after that little blow up. I was I'm just thinking about how I always pushed for more stories to do this. No, we talked about what the example was recently where you were like, man, I wish they had done an anthology for that. It wasn't Stranger Things or something else.
Starting point is 03:02:13 But anything, no, anything that just doesn't end when it should. Right. Pick a fucking manga that you like that's been going on too long. Oh, I can think of one. Now, think about if that had ended and then continued with a successor series under the same name would have been thinking every day about how it's not going to end before the author dies. Yeah, all of it. Any of it, whatever you want, right?
Starting point is 03:02:40 Yeah, Berserk here. Yeah, just to that. But that's what I was actually thinking of, because that's what I always push for. Stranger Things happened to waddle into this world where I already had that opinion. The thing where you can end it and then make the successor that is either thematically or possibly literally within the same world. The problem that allows you to not be shackled. Here's a little water.
Starting point is 03:03:04 What is this character up to this week? Here's two similar things that did stuff very different ways. And it's like it depends on what the the objective was with the show. So the Stranger Things, tons of actually good child actors or charming, whatever. Doing an old school throwback to fucking 80s and stuff. So the characters have tons of personality and they got these little tics about themselves and whatever, whatever. And that's like a horror thing.
Starting point is 03:03:31 Then there's the other series I've talked about before called Channel Zero, which were six episode things with nasty or like dull characters. And it's about the horror and the story. But when the people dress up as Stranger Kids characters and people cosplay as them, no saying company is ever going to be like, got to kill these kids or we got to move on. I have an idea. Stranger Things, too, should have used all the same actors
Starting point is 03:03:58 playing different characters. American Horror Story. Well, I don't know what. American Horror Story does that exact same thing. Every season of American Horror Story uses the same actors playing different characters. Not all of them, but like most of them. I thought of a stupid thing to make fun of.
Starting point is 03:04:12 No, you're telling they've done it. That's stupid. They've actually done it. Time frames and areas. Don't do what I said as a joke. I mean, it exists. Then again, that thing's on its eighth season now. You know, you know, it's going.
Starting point is 03:04:27 It's a lot of them. I Lady Gaga was in there. I actually hate when I think of a dumb idea to make fun of something. And then someone goes, oh, that's a real thing. And it's made millions. You'd be poor. Capcom ripped off my X-Men fighting game idea. God damn it.
Starting point is 03:04:44 It's just it's just that we live in a world of sequels more than anything. We've had for years and people tend to be afraid of final endings or things that say goodbye to characters a lot. People are afraid of them so much. Movies, stories, successes. When companies see people dressed up as like a character, it's not so much about the show anymore. And it's like, we can't throw that away.
Starting point is 03:05:10 But I mean, I always wished like that. I thought what Stranger Things 2 was going to be like another set of kids in another state, whatever, and it'd just be a different phenomenon, phenomenon, like to zoom out. Right. Because this is where because, again, it's not about Stranger Things or about these manga. The title makes you think of like an anthology. It sounds like a like a like a Twilight Zone or like the Outer Limits.
Starting point is 03:05:34 And this isn't and it's not a fix for bad writing because True Detective failed, right? Boy, did it. That's the example. True Detective failed. I can't pretend this is a fix all. But what I am saying is that because so many things are. I wanted to sequel to that. I didn't want that to move around. We're afraid of endings because recognition makes money.
Starting point is 03:05:57 Yeah. Therefore, the more we bring back the thing, you know, the safer a bet it is. Well, it's it's a really simple equation. It's when people go when people hit the end, they go, that was amazing. I want more, but don't make it shitty. Sure. Right. Right. And then and then fucking Hirsch steps in for Gravity Falls and goes, nah, it's done. We're done.
Starting point is 03:06:19 I want more. No, you're done. But I want more. You can do something else if you want, but this story is fucking done. And you're like, you know what? It was written to be done. So rare. So let it be done. Right. I want more. So that's what it is.
Starting point is 03:06:31 And it's the fact that you're like, no, but these characters, if they showed up again, Mabel's cute, she can sell. And no, it's finished. Right. So I like that idea being respected, especially when a good writer and artist and storytelling crew can get together and tell another compelling story. Yeah, like Joey. Without stretching shit, without stretching shit the fuck out.
Starting point is 03:06:55 And we're so afraid of that these days, that when it's so rarely seen, I fucking applaud it when I see it because I'm like, you had the balls. Thank you. And I mean, I go to JoJo because it's fucking. But like JoJo is a great example of someone that like in their manga, whereas like you have other shodans that run forever. JoJo's been running forever, but there's a pop and a hype and an excitement amongst JoJo fans when a new part gets announced and then you see a new design
Starting point is 03:07:19 and a new world and a new story. And it's still familiar to you. And you're like, oh, what are we going to? What's it going to be this time? Oh, he's a fucking sailor. What? OK. What's going on? You know what I mean? Like there's just there's a whole new level of excitement every time and you're like, it's the same manga. It's the same franchise you've been into,
Starting point is 03:07:34 but you allow the story to complete its arc. And when it's done, it's done. That's totally the same. The exact reaction to every time. Oh, he's OK. Yeah. And it's awkward as fuck for like two minutes. And then when something slightly ties in a little bit and you go, oh, fuck, it's that. Oh, it's Dio again.
Starting point is 03:07:52 It's Koichi, you know, you're like you get excited for the little thing because it's like it's still it's a sequel successor series, but it's actually still under the same name and label. So that's all it is, is man. Like as when it comes to media, we're just so afraid to like let things go. Here's a really good because it's not a safe business decision to make. So I fucking respect that when people do make that decision. Naruto cut the claim should have been cut off way longer before that.
Starting point is 03:08:16 Yes, if Naruto did what it did in a shorter time frame and we got burrito faster, you know what? Maybe it wouldn't have been as much of a mess. Here's an example that straight up that you're not you're not into them as much as me. But like Friday the 13th, right? They're like the fourth one. It's called the final chapter. Yeah. There's 10 of them. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:08:36 Final chapter, Jason Voorhees spoilers fucking dies does hard dies. But they're like it made too much money. They're like, OK, so in the fifth one is just some guy, the fifth one. He just puts on a mask and it's a random father that just used the legend with no powers. No, what about the one where Jason dies at the very beginning? OK, I'll get to that in a second. But like after that, they're like, fuck, everyone hated it because it wasn't actually Jason, so they brought Jason back.
Starting point is 03:09:08 And then they tease the idea that there's a there's a kid. And as a kid, he was like, he had to kill Jason or whatever. And then the last scene he puts on the mask and he looks in the mirror goes or whatever. I'm like, oh, he's going to be the new Jason. But they were like, fuck that. No one will like that. So let's not do that. And then when Jason brought back, they do another tease where the same kid grown up puts on the mask because he killed Jason.
Starting point is 03:09:32 But they're like, fuck that. We're not going to fall. No one wants to see that. So we'll still have Jason again because they're too scared not to have Jason. But Jason, you got to be Jason. But keep teasing this kid. Keep teasing this kid to see how he's on the bench. Yeah, people over. Jason, anyone bringing signs? No.
Starting point is 03:09:49 And what you said in Jason goes to hell, he dies in the first five minutes because the FBI blow him up like a thousand cops. Just like it's man. That's the only by the way. That's the only Jason movie I've seen the whole way through. And it's amazing because the first five minutes is a oh, I'm chasing a teenager through the woods and then the teenager runs out into a big clearing and then all these spotlights with Jason.
Starting point is 03:10:15 And she turns around and she's like, oh, I was an undercover cop. Yeah, and there are thousands of police with machine guns. All right, and they shoot with an RPG until he explodes. Now, they shoot him a bunch, but then they shoot him with like a fucking RPG. At the end of the day, it's still Jason, but it's his like spirit possessing people. So it's all random people, but they're like being possessed by the evil spirit. Everyone hated it. Like I'm back, Jason.
Starting point is 03:10:42 I mean, there's a level of possible. There's a level of like integrity, maybe that I don't I don't know. It doesn't apply to everything. But because, yeah, it's fucking Freddy and Jason and aliens and predators and stupid. There's an alien movie and they're like, here's the. Yeah, it's a predator or whatever, right? With Jason, I always got confused that people were so it had to be Jason because Jason doesn't talk.
Starting point is 03:11:08 Yeah, it's just with Freddy Krueger. Yeah, no, that'd be outrageous if there was a nightmare in Elm Street that didn't have the actor because the mask is so cool. Well, the introduction and like he does have like zombies, superhuman. I mean, if you want the introduction of the fucking chase spirit, possessing others is a place to go. It's it's it's a it's a it's a fucking overweight, like old black cop looking at Jason's heart on a on a slab.
Starting point is 03:11:34 And he just said, I got to eat it. OK, so look, like at that point, you're 30 fucking deep. At why not go for 31? Like, yeah, my shit doesn't apply to you. You're too far gone. You know, also, it's not so much Freddy, but it's the actor. Robert Englund. Yeah, Robert Englund's when they made the remake. And even though it's fucking Rorschach playing Freddy.
Starting point is 03:11:56 Now it's got to be Robert Englund. No, I mean, the remake, they recasted him to be the guy that played Rorschach. Good Jack, you're a Haley. Yeah. And you'd be like, that's awesome. That's a great pick. It's terrible. It's not Robert Englund. But this is all as dumb as I expect Jason to be, though. Yeah, it's completely a step. Very dumb. It's in step.
Starting point is 03:12:14 I feel like I can't even feel like when I saw the first trailer for Jason X, like the whole Jason series was ruined forever in terms of taking it seriously. Not in terms of being good. Oh, it was no wrong before. You haven't taken it seriously. For me, that's the final nail in the coffin. Is my horror protagonist goes to space? Yeah.
Starting point is 03:12:32 It's because by that time they were like, fuck, we got to do something different. Christ, it was also Jason goes to the future. Like it wasn't just goes to space. It's also go to the future. He didn't go to the future. Yeah, he went to the future. He was frozen. I mean, it's different.
Starting point is 03:12:48 Sometimes it takes really long, but eventually you get to the place where you do what I'm talking about anyway. And all I can say, like you said, you brought up Naruto. Like, sure. Right. And like all I can say is, yeah, if you did that sooner, it would have been cooler sooner. The most recent example besides Boris, where that comes to mind is Creed. Yeah, I was thinking of Creed as well.
Starting point is 03:13:07 Could have done that earlier. It was much, much earlier. Didn't need to crack it. Done that after Creed, after Rocky 4. But you know what I mean? Like it's like you're not fucking. I know Creed 2 is coming out in like two months. Now you have two things.
Starting point is 03:13:22 Now you have Rocky and Creed. You could have had, you know. Well, anyway, whatever. That's that's the point. That's man, we got sidetracked. Whatever we did. But it's a real, it's a real thing. And it's a reason why these grandkids fought Creed's grandkids. But it's it's just it needs to be understood.
Starting point is 03:13:37 It's more than just stranger things. In the middle of all these Friday, the 13 movies, they released Friday, the 13th, the TV series, and everyone freaked out. And then they saw it. And it's an anthology series where like a couple of investigators investigate spooky shit like ex files. Where's Jason? Everyone threw trash at their TVs. Exactly.
Starting point is 03:13:56 Remember when I was trying to remember the name of that horror thing that became a show? Yes, you scream. Wasn't that? Yes, it was. There's you talk about the exorcist and then there was a scream show. That's it. Wow. Um, I remember the RoboCop cartoon. There's two. There's two that I found it out later.
Starting point is 03:14:11 There is also a straight to sci-fi network movie. Yeah, there's a really bad. There was a more modern one like in the late 90s. And then there was an early 90s. There's the subtitle on it. Can you imagine Clarence Bottiker animated? It happened. That's amazing. What was the fucking subtitle on it? RoboCop?
Starting point is 03:14:31 Justice. No, no, no, no. Prime Directive. Prime Directive. That's good. That's good. That is a good subtitle. Yeah, that's what it was. That's what it was. It might have even been two. There was there was no three episodes.
Starting point is 03:14:45 I think there was a lie. Prime Directive was three episodes. And then they made two movies based on the series. I don't know. Yeah, anyway, I was just going to very quickly say that like we can go on and on about rebooting shit or starting six spiritual success. They're rebooting. Reboot.
Starting point is 03:15:05 But really, all we want is a giant squid. What? Dead or Alive Six adds Leifang, Hitomi and a giant squid. Leifang's been gone for a while. It's like a sporty Chinese outfit. No, she's in five. Is she? Yeah.
Starting point is 03:15:20 She just wasn't in Dead or Alive Extreme Beach, whatever. I mean, I mean, it's like you announced Diego announcing old characters is like, yeah, I guess. Get to the squid. Well, look at the stage they're on. Get out of my face. Oh, it's it's a stage hazard squid. Yeah, I thought.
Starting point is 03:15:40 Everything explodes in this fucking trailer. Never mind. Yeah, D.O.A. Exists a universe in which like all walls are explosive. It exists in the Michael Bayverse. Yeah, that's that's that's all you need to know. I like how Hitomi is just dressed as Makoto now. Basically, I mean, that's her fighting style.
Starting point is 03:15:58 But she had that outfit a couple times. Yeah, she had her alternate outfit, but her default was just jeans and like a tight top. So I just like how they're there. There's going to be sexy outfits for them. There's going to be not as sexy outfits. That's like some mail. If you have a letter and want to tell us about your dumb
Starting point is 03:16:14 anthology that should have been an anthology, but you didn't make one. Yes, for the thing that went too long, that should have ended, but didn't end because everyone's a coward. Yeah, everyone is a coward. You know who wasn't a coward? Whoever the dumb guy wrote Bleach. Yeah, yeah, he just killed it.
Starting point is 03:16:32 It's like Bleach is over now. You can send it to superbestfriendcast.com. Superbestfriendcast.com might sound a little something. Like this. I don't know the Bleach guy's name either. It's like one of those names. I'm just like, I. Tite Kubo.
Starting point is 03:16:47 And I know you said it. I realize it, but it's like it's gone now, by the way. Never to be heard by another Tito Keebe. Maybe if he drew a background, it wouldn't have. No, man, I'm tired and get in the way. They're super best ghosters. Have you ever had an acquaintance or a friend straight up vanish with no explanation?
Starting point is 03:17:07 Like not that they died or went to jail or anything. But more like they changed your number or just stopped interacting with everyone and no one has any idea where they went or why. Oh, totally recently saw something like this. Happened in my own circles. And I was wondering if you ever had a similar experience in before Liam jokes, lol, Brad.
Starting point is 03:17:21 I don't want to make I don't want to make light about it, but it's like everyone knows Dino. Do you know that post the amazing fighting game gifts? He just drops off the planet sometimes. And like he hasn't posted in like a year. And I have him as a friend on Steam. And it's just like I sometimes I don't know what's going on with them. And I'm like, oh, those gifts are amazing.
Starting point is 03:17:42 And it's like those actually brightened people's day ups. But I think he might be having, I don't know, some family issues. But I don't know, I wish to call me Dino, please. But I had a really good friend back in the day just left. Just disappeared. His name was Peter and he's gone. And I think I think so. But he never told me nothing almost.
Starting point is 03:18:04 He's like, I think he might have said, I'm going to Seattle for a visit and then never came back. So I don't know. Yeah, back in back in high school, man. Like one of my best friends was this dude, Maurizio, and we fucking got into like film and editing, shitting, short shooting shorts and just talked about CG and 3D. And that whole like thing, I went into like 3D like and stuff as like my path
Starting point is 03:18:30 and whatnot was we're kind of doing it together. And after after high school, he just kind of like stayed in the house and didn't really leave. And like it was weird. We just one of those things where just not too sure what happened. And a couple of times we went like actually got some friends together and just like went over to try to be like, hey, so what's up? What's going on?
Starting point is 03:18:50 And yeah, just it was one of those things where it was kind of like, I guess we just kind of came out with came and said, hey, we're going to come like say what's up and surprise him. But like it was without warning. And he kind of like didn't like it. Well, he he didn't come out. His dad answered the door and was like, he does. He's like, are you sure?
Starting point is 03:19:06 He's like, yeah, he doesn't want to come out. If you guys just maybe just give a call next time. You know, it's like, oh, fuck, OK. And then I did try again and to no avail. And yeah, we just don't know what happened and like fucking sex, man. I don't know. But yes, that does happen. I'm that person.
Starting point is 03:19:26 Oh, OK. My life is cleanly subdivided. I'm 32 now into my life at 16 and before and my life at 17 and afterwards. And there is, aside from family, obviously, zero overlap to the point where I have run into old classmates and I can fucking tell they that I am gone from their mind works for me. All right. Like I just went to Seja and literally made zero effort to interact with or whatever.
Starting point is 03:20:07 And when any particular instance came that it would be convenient to see all that shit off, just some clothes, close that phone number or element of contact and just proof it was that cop. I don't think it was a cop. OK, I think he was a drug addict who was trying to fool me by telling me he used to be a cop. And that was just a guy ran into on the street. Uh, on the Christ, it was like St.
Starting point is 03:20:41 Catherine or whatever. He was walking down the street. Yeah, hey, Pat, it's me. I'm like, oh, you're you reek of being homeless and a twitch of the drugs. Hey, man, how you know what? No, I met the kind of cop car. Wait, there was an actual person in a cop car. What?
Starting point is 03:21:00 That said, hey, what's up? You're like, oh, yeah, whatever. But oh, yeah. That's just somebody who just saw me and remembered me from 20 years ago. Also, I don't I remember that that thing happens. Fun part about sealing everything off. I don't remember who that is. OK, because I knew at the time because I was looking at them.
Starting point is 03:21:20 And then as soon as they drove away, I basically forgot that that event occurred until you mentioned it to me right now. Yeah, sometimes sometimes you ghost, sometimes you get ghosted. Who know what reasons? Everyone's a ghost in their own story. I feel bad when I like involuntarily do it to people or I'm like, that's rough. I've done that by accident. Like I absolutely just don't make enough effort to keep in touch.
Starting point is 03:21:51 And it's like, fuck, I actually really do like care about you. And like, you know, I just have just too lazy. Have not put the it happens. Like I still care. I just, you know, haven't done things because I'm bad at that. So yeah, there's no. Yeah, there's a particularly anyway. That's a that's the thing that I really like.
Starting point is 03:22:17 I keep trying to get better at. Yeah, me too. You're good at it, though. You do. You keep up with your old friends a lot. Not as much as you keep up with my old friends. A lot. You're very, you're very good at saying that. There's there's one or two. There's one or two people that I really like.
Starting point is 03:22:33 And it's like they have kids now. So it's almost impossible to do anything with them anymore. Yeah, they're basically dead. Team Atelier Muse, I want to hang out more. You could just I know I'm just I'm trying to say I'm bad at it. They're not far. I know. I'm just I'm in the same exact position. I'm super bad at it.
Starting point is 03:22:55 We got one coming in from Michael. He says there, David Cage, Defense Force. That's where. Mabuhay, I guess. Michael from the Philippines here, a longtime listener, first time reader. So Devil May Cry is a fucking rad name for a business suitable for a badass like Dante. However, being a work of fiction, it comes off a bit contrived.
Starting point is 03:23:21 A couple of days ago, I was walking down the street and I saw a beaten up truck for a shipping company called Try Me Enterprises. I couldn't contain my excitement as I thought of how rad it was that such a business existed. That's great. What's the coolest real company business or otherwise? Corporate entity you could think of.
Starting point is 03:23:41 Didn't you guys invent that dog company? Except it was real. OK. Borkbusters was super real. I know. Borkbusters is not real. Barkbusters is real. Barkbusters. Yeah. I don't know. I can't think of any. Why would they spell Bark wrong?
Starting point is 03:23:54 I mean, I still give a shout out to Busta Move Moving Company. That wins hard. Yeah, that's my favorite. It's good, but it wouldn't exactly be the most bad ass thing. Like I'm trying to think of a big corporation as a cool name, but none are popping in mind. None that are real. Yeah, none that are real.
Starting point is 03:24:12 So that's the problem. Slashco or something. Yeah, nothing's going to come to mind immediately. But anyway, it's weird to me when I look at Devil May Cry, like the name and like that's iconic now when it's like choice number two. You remember what the original name is supposed to be? No, Devil May Care, but the copyright on some old movie extended past.
Starting point is 03:24:36 They're like, we can't call it Devil May Care. I think that's the saying that actually makes sense. Yes, it is. So fuck it, call it Devil May Cry. Whatever it's a statement or like a whatever. Let's see. Got one coming in from Screamin' Red Skull, their super best cast. Want to respond to Pat's criticism of Sonic Generations
Starting point is 03:24:59 by pointing out something you might have missed in the 30 seconds of play. That's right. While the jump being wrong is a legit problem, it's at least present in the game. But as classic Sonic, when you hold up, Sonic looks up at the sky followed by the camera panning up and you get to see what he's seeing. Right. And Generations holding up makes classic Sonic look up.
Starting point is 03:25:16 But that's it. The camera stays focused on him and never moves. This may not seem like a big deal, but it looks really bad when you consider the fact that Sonic the Hedgehog 4 got this right and Generations and homage to all the classics and new stuff completely overlooked it. That's it. Die Hard fans on a opinion. Yeah, Sonic Generations sucks even more. Thanks, buddy.
Starting point is 03:25:33 And that was sent in with the label correction. Yeah. So that was there was no correction in there. Yeah, it was just addition. It was like, here's another one. And, uh, lastly, we got one coming in from Doc. He says, Superbess, Tsutski's inventing machine. Yo, yo, what up, Doc? Back when I was a wee lad in South America,
Starting point is 03:25:56 my brother got a hold of a bootleg carnage figure. Oh, this is cool. Needless to say, it was a hype as shit. Yeah. The thing we didn't know was that the box had a big old typo. So instead of carnage on the box. OK, anyone want to take a guess? You've seen this? No, no, I have not. But I'm the only person that can guess is Pat and you. That's right, man.
Starting point is 03:26:17 Have you ever seen it? So I have no idea. I can't even like. It won't be cooler than what it actually can. Narsh. No. And what did it say? Instead of there's a big old typo so that instead of saying carnage, the box said carnage or as a result, I called the Red Edge Lord carnage for years.
Starting point is 03:26:42 Until now, no, it's carnage or until we got the Internet, so that's a long fucking time. That's a really long time. Now I'm just mad that it's not carnage. You see, he lives in South America, so I probably didn't get it at the time. But like, you know, he was in the Fox Kids cartoon, but maybe it wasn't available then.
Starting point is 03:27:04 Does any of you say carnage then? It sounds like a toku. That sounds like a carnage. Yeah, your form. Kikider carnage kick sounds like a fucking writer. Kamen Rider Carnage. It's actually in the carnage. God damn it.
Starting point is 03:27:21 Carnage is way better. But like shit is hilarious. Damn, I never would have thought it'd be cool. It's better. I thought it was going to be funny. I thought it was going to be like Cranager or Cranage or some shit. But fucking carnage.
Starting point is 03:27:33 You're a man, but the Venommer. Damn. Well, anyway, yeah. That's that's a good one to go out on. Cheers. So, fellow carnagers, what's coming out? Nothing is cool is coming out. Not nothing is cool is that name. No carnage form. Well, we beat RE5, so that's a thing.
Starting point is 03:27:56 Not quite yet, but pretty close. We pretty much beat RE5 easily. We have to desperately escape. Damn it. We almost escaped. Did you get, I don't know what I want to play. Did you get, did you get to the bottom? We can't play anything yet.
Starting point is 03:28:11 You're right. We got a lot of business to do. Did you get to the bottom of what Wesker does? Whether he teleports or not? Yeah, yeah, actually, actually, because I was making those jokes about how he's just moving fast. Even Matt agrees. There is a sequence in the end of the game
Starting point is 03:28:31 where it is the idea that he's moving quickly is totally ridiculous. It's so absurd because he's teleporting around with his arm out to his side shooting, shooting a gun to the side. And he's bamfing between locations and he's moving. And his animation is contiguous between bamfs. Like, yeah, he's pulling out of his belt. Then he's running really fast. Then he's going back to put his hand in the same spot
Starting point is 03:28:59 where he's pulling that he's teleports. OK, so it's one animation, but he's bamfing around while doing the same pose. And he's just, I'm here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, OK. Like if you put all the bamfs together, it would be one movement. Yes, yeah, yeah, and it's like, yeah, he's running really fast. And his earlier fight when you fight against him,
Starting point is 03:29:19 he's doing poses and like even in the flashback to like, it's like, yeah, you could lobby that he's running, but it's the same. It's the same thing. You know, when he does the choke slam in the cutscene in the span, he punches Chris down and then he teleports and then he's reversed. So he does a choke slam. It's like that one is like that looks like he was just moving. But if he was moving so fast, why was there a time delay?
Starting point is 03:29:45 Yeah, yeah. And the other thing, sorry, if you're unless you. He's running so fast that he's disappearing from sight. Why does it still take him that long to get to you? Yeah, it doesn't make sense. The other issue is that the last session of RE5, we make the point later, like I forgot that this takes place in Africa. Yeah. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 03:30:08 Because the last because the entire hour, the entire time we had sat down that day, the only hint that it was in Africa was a bunch of the enemies were black folk and they had the the the red berets, you know, that kind of look. Yeah, that's it. Because otherwise you're just in medical hallways and a ship. Do the Majini's not show up later on? They do, but they're in military fatigues. And they all have guns.
Starting point is 03:30:33 So they might as well. It honestly could be anywhere. OK, yeah. It could have just been on the USS Darkness ship. And you fucking you to have that fight in that famous African volcano stage. Yes, from Street Fighter Four. Of course, the volcano. Yeah, five.
Starting point is 03:30:53 It's fun to play it in co-op. But like I'm going to spoil one bit because it's the funniest thing ever. And I think people at home will have a lot of fun at home watching along to this piece of information that Matt figured out in the last 10 seconds is watch the remainder of the LP and try and think about whether or not Wesker even knows Sheva's name. Because the majority of everything he says is Chris, Chris, Chris, Chris, Chris, he's yelling at two people as if they were Chris.
Starting point is 03:31:30 Can you play that game? No, you can't. No, it's fucking she's always there. Yeah, you can't do it. Yeah, she's always there. Yeah, she talks to Wesker and Wesker will respond to Chris. That's fucking now. She fights him. She physically that there's QT.
Starting point is 03:31:45 Yeah, it's her and Wesker. But. So yeah, no, no. So watch the remainder of the LP and see if Wesker even knows Sheva's there. But what I'm thinking is that at the very least, we're just forgetting early on when you meet him and he might have said, oh, you've brought along a little friend or he might have the only time I can think of as he says, we'll have to we'll have a fight to onto. Like, imagine if Ken is like it's a God and so God's like, who the fuck?
Starting point is 03:32:16 Literally, who? What? Ryu is this? You do assure you can. That's like, were you right? Is this yours? You know that? Do you know where you like all these years? Why would it really, really?
Starting point is 03:32:31 Sheva being put in the game late. Yeah, like after all the lines like the script. Yeah, which is also weird for that street fighter comparison, because in the Van Damme movie, Ken and Ken and Sagat are the enemies. Right, right, right. They have the one on one and Ryu fights Vega. Because the American because America just like that. Fuck it.
Starting point is 03:32:53 Who bitch this is? Who is this yours? Who is this? It's Ken. It's Ken. The room is obviously done. We're going to start up big old Briggs soon, I assume. Big boy Briggs.
Starting point is 03:33:09 I would probably start that this week. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's that's that. Follow Briggs. Uh, what else is going on? Meanwhile, you're going to keep bantering. Yep. Tactical and prison.
Starting point is 03:33:21 Fuck. Tactical decision improvements forthcoming. Continued, continued. There is. I am actually getting less stupid at that. Yeah, there you go. And again, I because I was like completely cold on the story because I played it when it came out.
Starting point is 03:33:38 Yeah, years ago. Uh, I went and I just reread some stuff. So I'm like, yeah, right, right. Okay, caught up. So yeah, that should be good. Um, please look forward to continued, uh, uh, the competence go down over the course of sessions. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:33:52 Um, yeah. Not skill or proficiency go up. No, incompetence go down. Yeah, that's right. Um, I also want, I also very publicly, uh, wanted to talk about like the suggestion to play something like Dragon's Dogma just as an example to be like, let's invite everyone in to what this conversation usually
Starting point is 03:34:10 sounds like, you know, because I'm like, this is what we do every time. But it's like, let's, let's do a public to those of you at home listening to this who like Dragon's Dogma. You all know that I like Dragon's Dogma. Therefore you should be aware of that I am both the person who has suggested Dragon's Dogma on this channel the most times and then killed it the most amount of times.
Starting point is 03:34:31 I am the person who has only played the demo who's heard about how good it is. And I have that same level of curiosity I had like for Tokyo Mirage sessions where I'm like, that's a cool thing. People always say is good. I would like to know more about it. I'm curious enough to say, yeah, let's see what's going on there. So it's in that exact place of curiosity that I would be like,
Starting point is 03:34:53 yeah, sure, Dragon's Dogma is a game that I would only say could be LP'd here on this channel in a reasonable way. If it was the kind of thing where we did a two hour session and we did the, you know, the important things. And then I said to Willie, go home and do fucking whatever. But don't do this or that. Just don't do this. Yeah, OK, OK.
Starting point is 03:35:12 And then come back. Right. And then we would do that. And then you would go home and I said, just go do whatever. Punch the clock off screen. Yeah, yeah, because and just like say straight up, say, shit's going to be gone because I mean, I made a tweet about it. But the short version of it was how long to beat says whatever it says, like 30, not it says 38 hours or so.
Starting point is 03:35:32 And then like the completionist version with extras was 50 was 60. So I called I called it for 50 in the middle. So that's Dragon's Dogma is weird when you go to how long to beat because how is the completionist thing double the game length? But then some people and there's a reason for that. But some folks in the comments are like, that's not true. You can blitz it, you know, you can. And then I was wondering, I'm like, but then how are you actually?
Starting point is 03:35:54 You can blitz it if you're really good. I can blitz it because I know where everything in that game is. If it's the first time and you're trying to enjoy it, are you going to actually still be blitzing? You know, and then so on and so forth. That game is punishing and mean. So I did. So I just did a little, a little of the basic equation and went divide that and fuck it into half an hour episodes.
Starting point is 03:36:13 And you're looking at 102 episodes. But why don't you just put an hour and a half episodes every day? Because then the recording time stop recording. The time has to go somewhere. You know, if you edit out all those moments, the last time that we spent recording, that is still time in real life. That is time we can't record other things. Plus people remember last week,
Starting point is 03:36:34 well, he was talking about how anxiety go up and anxiety will go up if you choose to dive into a 100 plus thing. Someone did someone then did took that same equation and applied it to P five and they got to a number. My that was my favorite reaction. Like to all of that was that stupid meme that was bitter pills to swallow. Yes. And the pills just says the persona five LP getting canceled was lucky
Starting point is 03:37:06 or like it was the right. The math was the math was 10 months. No, it's ten ten months of episodes to get through that. That's silly. Like that's an endurance run that just becomes your channel. Like there's no other. Anyway, and that's also like some people might be like, well, I can. I've sat there and I played like eight hours of persona five when I came out.
Starting point is 03:37:32 I'm like, yeah, probably Willie even did that once or twice, too. Was Willie talking the entire time during that eight hours? Probably not. And when you're doing even the edited version of something where you know you're going to have a lot of downtime, you still don't exactly know where you're going to cut and come back. So you're kind of talking anyway throughout it. So you're trying to make jokes and putting in that extra for three hours.
Starting point is 03:37:55 And let's say two hours goes into cuts to not make the play the playlist too long. You're still putting in all that. I should be. I should feel like we should be clear. This does not mean that long games are now been from the channel. No, definitely not. But it means that maybe for right this second, we should take a real hard look at what long games we might actually want to do. And plus very early next year, a lot of big
Starting point is 03:38:25 long, well, not short games with big things. And we don't want to have too much overlapping shit and have to get to those later. There's some rad shit coming. You know, Devil May five is coming. Devil May five and Ghost of Tsukushima is coming. And some Sekiro comes out. There's some cool shit coming that you don't want to fucking, you know, are you too? No doubt. So like, obviously, those things, you know, remain what they are.
Starting point is 03:38:47 But yes, big anxiety go up. And the thing is long LPs are not gone, but they're definitely going to be something that we consider a lot. Put a lot more into like picking what, when and so on. And to those, a lot of people are like for certain given things like some people are like, yeah, but for Mass Effect, you're like, I watch every part. And it's like that's super cool. It's awesome. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 03:39:09 No, the one who's like the guy who's like, I like I say on Twitter that I watch every part. God, I saw him. But in real life, I'd stop after part five because I just go replay it myself. But I'm like, why is that so real? Why are you going to be so real? How could you say something so controversial yet so brave? And that comes from a place of positivity. Like, yeah, I like your LP and it's oh, I love this game by fuckers.
Starting point is 03:39:35 I'm going to play Matt fucking I'm playing this shit again. You're like, oh, where'd you go? So no, that's what it is. I miss you. So it's what it is. And it's it's real. So I do like that. I think that that that's it's fucking real and funny. But whatever, if we pick something, when we do something long, it's it's yeah, it's just going to be like maybe not right back to back.
Starting point is 03:39:55 And may and you want to make sure it's something that people are genuinely like overwhelmingly hyped for. Because there's some long stuff that like some people are hyped for. But you have to be OK with we have to have to be at something that we all agree. We're OK with the amount of people that would not want to watch this being like shafted a slot for a while. Yes. You know, that has to be like, yeah, OK, worth it.
Starting point is 03:40:21 And that's a fucking real decision to make. So the solution for all of you guys going into big depth is that if you want longer LPs, all you have to do is keep watching the videos over and over again and tell all your friends to just watch as many of the video. No, don't watch the same videos. Just watch everything that currently exists on the channel and tell your friends to do so as well. Well, like the basic version is remember that 50 hours is a hundred parts.
Starting point is 03:40:53 Yeah, that's right. Geez, just just multiply it by two. What if you were just good enough to beat the game in one third of that time? Then that's a different LP. It sure is. And I'm OK with that. Yeah, I'm personally like if we wanted to do a fucking blitz through with like the person who does not know the game is all along for the ride. And the one who does is fucking like they better not say they can blitz through
Starting point is 03:41:21 but can't. No, no, don't do that. Don't do that. So like, take, for example, Matt, do you want to our LP or two upon that games release? Yes, because I'm in a position where I am not going to wait for that games in LP schedule. I am probably going to stream that whole game the night it comes out, right? So we can play it through and then get that different one of like, I actually know how to do this this time was like the first story to LP.
Starting point is 03:41:54 Was Merz edge that bad? No, I do wasn't even talking. Oh, he was talking about Metroid. No, I was not actually talking about anything in particular. What? Metroid. Yeah, the one that we brought Liam in to save you from. Yeah, but I didn't claim I could blitz through that. Then I didn't. Oh, I thought you did.
Starting point is 03:42:10 No, you always talk about how much you love Metroid. I love Metroid. I'm not major. I actually meant zero. I was just like, this is a funny thing to say. Oh, because the only thing I mean, if you guys had, I'd be great if you're like, oh, shit, because he knew about that game that you guys played because I was running through my head and I'm like, when did I say?
Starting point is 03:42:29 And I'm like, oh, I met Merz edge was the only time I could think of where I did that. You did blitz through. Yeah, I was like, you could make this jump or that jump here or there. But you also like, didn't you glitch through the boat at some point? A couple of things. But I like all I I remember my fuck ups. Of course you do. But how it is. Yeah, no, but Metroid was always. Metroid is another it's another fighting games thing where I'm like,
Starting point is 03:42:51 I I'm not ever going to say I'm the best at them. I'm just a huge fan of it. You know, I don't think anyone's claimed all I'm going to. Why would you want to blitz through like actually blitz through? Metroid, if you're doing a GDQ. Yeah, OK, it has to be a game with very little story. Yeah. Well, there's edge had story and we let it rock. But they're still short.
Starting point is 03:43:15 But yeah, it's really short. And it was like, there's some cool stuff that a lot of people probably just didn't even know existed about it, that I was like, maybe I can just show some stuff off. But yeah, I'm OK with those types of LPs every once in a while. But how many games are we playing to the point where we can become experts at them these days?
Starting point is 03:43:33 Extraordinarily few, very few. Back in the day, there were a couple that were hangovers from when we, you know, weren't doing this type of thing regularly. I remember we talked to we talked to Gerard about this. Ages ago, completionist. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's like, man, when I started this out, it was so easy. Do do Super Metroid and do Chrono Trigger.
Starting point is 03:43:54 But then when you ran out of all the games I had played in my childhood. Right. Yeah. So for us, it's like we did R2 and Chrono Trigger and the Donkey Kong countries and etc. That well is dry. Who wants to see into the breach again? Yeah, you did that. Yeah, but that was new.
Starting point is 03:44:14 You made that. Oh, yeah. Um, anyway. So that but that like when that does exist, that's always a fun place to go if it's applicable. But if it's not, then yeah, you got to just kind of look at that clock and go, hmm. How many? Hmm. How many episodes? OK. Till April, you say, April, April's a good month. OK, it's like that one Black Mirror episode where your date,
Starting point is 03:44:37 your relationship is given a date about how long it lasts. And it's like this time on it. Like, yeah, April, buddy. And you're like, oh, you didn't think about that shit. Yeah. And you're like, I'm not having a fun time in this relationship either. You're in for two years. Look, how it's going bad. Just looking at the clock.
Starting point is 03:44:59 Indeed, he do. Short game, go up. Short game, go up. Short game, go up. Well, I mean, we're coming in on the shortest game part of the whole season. The season, did I just call a year of our shit a season? But you can say season is in like fall, winter. Because shit storm very short.
Starting point is 03:45:19 Many. Many shorties. Many short. I made a recent suggestion for a shortie that Matt liked. And yeah, it was a good shortie. We could do that. Big shorties. So that's what's coming up. Shout out.
Starting point is 03:45:36 I like this part where we discuss the behind the curtain ceiling, but instead of what's coming up, the literal. It's like, you know, what's this is what's not coming up. No, what it is is, listen, we can see you complaining. We can see you. You're not invisible. There are reasons we're not as incompetent as we appear. That's not. I am not as incompetent as I appear cut to stream.
Starting point is 03:46:04 No. All, you know, this would be a great time for the stream to go down again. Oh, it's Superwood. Fuck me. Yeah. Anyway. Hey, let's show our personal shit and get out of here. Yeah, let's do it. Hey, Willie, what's coming up on Wally versus? Nothing. Great. No, it's one of those weeks.
Starting point is 03:46:21 No, it's just I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm you're at Park. You're a Granby Zoo. So no, no, no, I'm I'm I'm waiting on all week. Waiting on some Kirby stuff. But otherwise near is going to continue. There's some fun shit going down in your holy shit. A. B. Still B. Still B.
Starting point is 03:46:42 And a new new favorite quote has arisen from the play through. The one with the I'll never mind. Nope, not one. Yeah, I believe someone. I retweeted someone that like like were what the fuck was it? It was. Your first duty as a parent is to step up your anti air game and protect your children from helm splitters.
Starting point is 03:47:04 I like that. I like that. You never know when your baby is at risk from a fucking air to ground. Step it up with the anti airs, y'all. Not table hopper, but it's like baby crib hopper. You got to be careful of those two. Crib hopper, there you go, hopper. There's there's there's literally UPS is holding back the Naruto LP.
Starting point is 03:47:28 Still literally UPS is fault. You mentioned this like a week and a half ago. Yeah, I don't know. Are you serious, man? That the fucking the the the tracking fucking thing sounds is their fault to anyone that wants to experience woolly's current emotion, go to Pro ZD's YouTube page and look at his fucking was it FedEx video? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 03:47:51 Fucking that that's it's Pro ZD. It's it's always great. Have you ever done that? Have you ever waited outside the door? Yes, see the nothing. Yes, in fact. And I remember having a moment of like, should I chase the truck? Was an actual decision I had to make one time waiting for
Starting point is 03:48:10 Gekito Ninja Tyson one for the GameCube and I saw the UPS come out. And I was like, why aren't you coming inside? Why are you driving down the street and ignore? Like, I know it's there. Yeah, it says it on the exact same thing. I was waiting in my little lobby and I look out and I can see the guy turned down the street kind of slowed down near my building and just kept going and I can't not a not a package being delivered,
Starting point is 03:48:40 but very similar, but even worse in a way, because I'm watching on my phone as the Uber Eats person goes around my block, goes around a second time. And then it says your order was canceled. Oh, fuck, your delivery partner couldn't find you. Oh, that's the fucking worst. And like, we're waiting for that food. I had 40 minutes. Yes, I had that same thing, right?
Starting point is 03:49:05 It was like 40 minutes. There's yeah. Yeah. And like when it finally came, it was just the wrong food. And all that. And it was like he opened up the bag and he pulled the left one out instead of the right one. Yeah. And I go, oh, cool, no problem. App, can you just call the guy back and tell him wrong? Nope, sever connection.
Starting point is 03:49:24 Nope, nothing you can do. Only thing you can do is call the restaurant. Like the food is in his car. Yeah, he's going to give someone else the wrong meal. Just come get it. Like it's fine. And the apps like absolutely not under no circumstances. I guess the idea being once it's in my hands, it can be it's toxin immediately.
Starting point is 03:49:43 Right. It's like fucking deep, deep poison has been set in. And if I hand it back, then it's, you know, you can't trust that shit. What if the syringe flipped out and got injected into the food and then quickly put away? It's kind of like if your order is out, then it's basically free. It's a free for all. Whether when your order is up the restaurant, if you still have some sort of problem, like because I ordered some food like weeks and weeks ago where I was like, I want this, this, this, this.
Starting point is 03:50:08 And then they call me back and they're like, so we have none of what you said. Yeah. How come you let me click it? Yeah. We have none. I'm like, all right. Well, this is the only thing I want. And he's like, OK, I'm like, well, I don't want the food. I cancel my order. And he's like, oh, you're going to have to call Uber for that.
Starting point is 03:50:24 I'm like, no, I'm talking to you, the guys that are making the food. And I don't want no food from you. OK, so there's two that I literally too weak to order another meal because I don't have the energy. You know what? I've got three for you, right? One, pay this habit on stream page orders. McDonald's guy can't get into our house drives away. I call him, hey, you still have the food.
Starting point is 03:50:48 Bring it back. I don't know. Maybe at the end of the night, I can drive by. Wow. Wow. You mean like in three hours? Yeah. You know, at the end of my shift, I'm like, I don't want three hour old McDonald's shit, man, too. And this is my part. This is my favorite. The guy that you recognize as the person who gets your order wrong
Starting point is 03:51:09 from that restaurant you like to order, getting indignant and shitty with you when you're like, no, stay there while I check my food, please. Right. Because you've got you got it wrong last time. Please don't run away from me as I just is that my food? No, it's not. And the old and like and I forget the third one. Well, the old like when you like normal Uber, if you forget your shit in the car,
Starting point is 03:51:37 it tells you call them back and it gives you then they set up the contact so that you can reach them back and go, oh, yeah, can you drop it off or whatever? And you work it out like it's there. It just they don't want it on the food version. Yeah. So I'm like, you're just going to have two people get nothing and like, yeah, anyway, whatever. Oh, no. First world problems.
Starting point is 03:51:55 No, no, no, I remember it. Hey, man, I'm in front of your house. Your buzzer doesn't work. It's just this number. Just dial. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it doesn't work. And in the background of the call, I can hear a different person's answering machine coming through the buzzer.
Starting point is 03:52:15 It's not. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 100%. And I'm like, dude, it's this not just dial this number. No, man, it doesn't work. You're going to have to come down like I'm going to have to cancel your order. Also, are you running away? Why are you running away? Why are you running? Get back here. You know why they're running?
Starting point is 03:52:35 Because I assume that you go marked as undeliverable and you just get to eat it. Or like they have another two stops to make within 20 minutes or something. Oh, and the bonus is that when I met that guy, he was so hot. He he had managed someone that had opened the door for him to come into the building and he was knocking on every door sequentially going. Hey, is this Patrick? It's going to work. What's streaming? He was ripped on Angriest Pat, probably all night.
Starting point is 03:53:04 There you go. So maybe Warframe, but probably all night. There you go. It's good. Yeah, I think I'm going to hit play through sea this week, probably. I got confused for a second and thought you were talking about all night. Went what in my mind for a second? No, the automatters. Yeah, that's a good one of them.
Starting point is 03:53:25 Yeah, I did a fucking rad sidemish the other day. That was exciting, which was sidemish. I had to collect some flowers. That's a good sidemish. Yeah. That's OK. I felt felt pretty good. It's all right. It felt pretty good and bad. Yeah, that's good. You know, man, it's like it's one of those things where it's like
Starting point is 03:53:44 you're doing your own thing. So it's exactly what I talked about fucking half an hour ago, where you're like, this is its own thing. But it kind of touches that other thing. But it doesn't have to. But it does a little, just a little. And whenever it does, you go, right? And it's like it's such a strong thing.
Starting point is 03:54:03 And it's like you can't get that feeling unless you decide to create the distance first. You're completely so that I disassociate. Yeah, and I'm taking completely by surprise when it comes back. That's a feeling you won't get if you don't fucking end your shit, guys. Hey, Matt, how many edge lords are there? Now that I said, send me an email with your edge, Lord. There's a way more than I remember, especially for comics.
Starting point is 03:54:33 I'm like, like, I mean, no. Yeah, you might you might have to like cram a couple into one episode. I'm already writing a script and cramming in like two. You might have to start cramming and to get into that speed speed route. Yeah, no, edge lords came out. Nice, nice response to it. But in terms of this week on the flop, I'll have another episode of what happened, one that I hate because it's about final fight street wise.
Starting point is 03:54:57 So seven sons. Yeah. I didn't find out any more information about. There's like no one you already knew a bunch. I know I do. But like the the I did you know that final fight? Revenge was directed by the guy that created Crash Bandicoot. Wow. Like after he created Crash Bandicoot for like Crash Crash One or two left,
Starting point is 03:55:21 joined up Capcom and they said direct this fighting game. Oh, that's that's one of those rhetorical questions you had. You knew we did not know that. No, and I didn't know that. So yeah, that's coming up on Friday. OK, cool. So should this podcast be changed for an anthology? Should we bring in new people next week?
Starting point is 03:55:39 Is that what you're saying? Yeah, I dress like a OK, what's you want? Do you want us to be dressed like different characters? Or do you want different people in here acting as if they were us? I want the next generation of us. So our sons, so the Takeda and and fucking and the kung-jin. So best friends, new generation, new generation, bring in the kids, bring in the third strike kids and they're the new era.
Starting point is 03:56:07 Right. One of them could be like a dread, a dreaded fucking ginger. They learn what? No, and then the other ones. No, but you know how sometimes the designs are a little bit familiar, but a little bit different. Yeah. So you bring in plague for me.
Starting point is 03:56:22 No, but no, that's that's current generation like a kid is younger is no. You need it has to be like Batman Beyond where it's like, oh, it's that guy. And then the guy's like, no, I'm not Bruce. I'm Terry. I'm doing my own shit. It has to be like that, right? So it's like your successor versions where you're like, oh, it's a bit of this. It's a bit of that.
Starting point is 03:56:37 It's Cassie Cage. Yeah, it's a little bit of that, a little bit of this. You know, you get a combination. Maybe it's like two people like really needs a ward at home. But he needs to teach things. I feel like I feel like one week is not enough to build up protege's. No, I think it can. And like he's like super obsessed with like first person shooters.
Starting point is 03:57:00 Yeah, OK, super duper into them. And you're like, oh, I thought you'd be the fight. He's like, fuck fighting games. That's it's garbage. Yeah, it's not fun. They were never successes. Get your ass beat on the first day. And it's not fun.
Starting point is 03:57:11 Yes, go, man. That's not like first person shooters. Hell, yeah, you dominate every day. Boom, headshot, super into it. And then and then like, and then there's like a like a like, I don't know, like a metalhead that like hates hip hop, but it's like super into gacha games. Yeah, right. Because I hate that shit.
Starting point is 03:57:30 He's way, way in. Yeah. And, you know, oh, he's also really book smart. Flying flying. Very dumb street smart flying. Fly top marks. Absolutely. Huge collection. Yeah, way, way in there. That's good. There you go.
Starting point is 03:57:47 Oh, I don't mind that. Yeah. No, no, no. I don't even I don't even want to. Where would this even go? Angry girl who's really generous. Angry really generous. Angry girl. Just because I'm a greedy shit doesn't mean I can't also be very generous.
Starting point is 03:58:04 Not greedy, then. Yeah, loves going outside, loves going outside, outdoors all day, every day. Yeah, loves to fart in front of people. Huge fan. Huge fan. Will go to any public bathroom. Loves them. Just get that dog away from her.
Starting point is 03:58:23 Completely hates dog. Get it away. Completely well adjusted. Yep. Yep. She's super angry. Chill. Massive extrovert. Yeah.
Starting point is 03:58:35 New era, the new kids coming soon. Oh.

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