Castle Super Beast - SBFC 273: First Party Softening Gel

Episode Date: November 20, 2018

Download for Mobile | Podcast Preview Pat finishes Hunter x Hunter, Woolie finishes House of Cards, and Matt isn't edgy, he's just a fan of the edge. You can watch us record the podcast live on twit...ch.tv/superbestfriendsplay Outro: Hideki Naganuma - AIN'T NOTHIN' LIKE A FUNKY BEAT [Lethal League Blaze OST] Castlevania Netflix Creator Reveals Devil May Cry Animated Series Sony to skip E3 2019, ‘exploring new and familiar ways to engage PlayStation community in 2019’ Super Robot Wars T announced for PS4, Switch Fallout 76's first major patch is a whopping 47GB on console Kirby Star Allies Wave 3 DLC Confirmed: Magalor, Taranza, Susie, new area New Character Leads the way in more Dead or Alive 6 reveals, plus new version of DOA Extreme 3: Scarlet, is coming to Switch Travis Strikes Again gets physical, season pass with new character, and gets Let it Die Promotion

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Starting point is 00:00:00 How's it going? It's pretty alright. What's up? I had a weird dream. Yeah, what was it about? Like I went to one of those haunts that like, you know, they make up like a scary warehouse to scare you. But it turned out it was like real in that a man unlike not unlike the man on fire from MGS five was hunting down people and killing us for real. And I got really really stressed out and I was running. But thankfully I looked down at my arm and I noticed I had cool tattoos in the stream. And there were of Bowsette dream over. I think I came out the other side with a win there. If you died in real life, did you die in
Starting point is 00:00:52 the game? No. Okay. If it means something, get it inked at me. Maybe this is a sign. Live that life. One thing is for sure. I'll be like 80 and I'll look down and I'll be like still like hell yeah. That's not something you regret. That's ever green. I'm like I'm like the middle of my back is still healing. It's still healing right now. Can't regret the like when you said do you mean like the spine part? No, no, no, the I we had a new session and I covered over the it is my spine, but it's like the center part. But yeah, do the toughest part fucking. Yeah, commit. I actually think it's like there's nothing
Starting point is 00:01:30 I like that much. And while Bowsette has calmed down, I think last podcast we said it's not so much calm down in that it's just people have moved on to longer form Bowsette projects now. Like the undertale. I mean, yeah, there's that. There's that coming. But on the but in on the but on the general concept of Vink at first thought, I'd be like it's the weirdest thing that math doesn't have any. But then second, it's like no, because you're not Matt's not actually on the edge, but he's the number one edge fan. Yeah, you're admiring the lines cheering it on. You're the number one fan of the edge. Go ahead. You've got the big hand and the big finger and you got the popcorn and you're in there
Starting point is 00:02:13 edging closer to the edge. But I always take there you go. And when you think, oh, but what about Matt's putting on like edge clothing and whatnot? I was like, no, you're putting on like the jersey of the of the team almost your fanwear. You know, jersey devils. It's the fucking pants. Yeah, fucking Sacramento edge. I don't know. Cool. Edge admiration. It's a very different word. Thank you, everyone. Fantastic name for any sports team. Like that's easy. I mean, anything lords is a fucking great. Yeah. But that's why I like I've made it a consistent naming convention across all mediums, because just throw the word lords onto something and it gets awesome right away. And no one's pushing lords ever. Yeah, the
Starting point is 00:02:58 closest I ever got to like, oh, man, I could get that when I become cool and grown up was like Chester's arm sleeves that were fire. The fake ones. Yeah. No, they weren't fake. They're real. Oh, Chester from Lincoln Park. No, they weren't real fire. Okay. No, they weren't real fire, but there are tattoos of fire. I'm like, that looks cool. But then I instantly was like, it hurts though. So I'm gonna run away from this dream. This might be slightly inside, but I hope it's not as inside to many of our listeners as I would think it is. But everyone at this table is familiar with Mr. Cool Ice. Yes. Yeah. Oh, have you seen him? Like recently, he's gotten even better back then, but now it's like way
Starting point is 00:03:39 better. He has matured into a stronger leaner Mr. Cool Ice with even more like, and they did some fun stuff with what was existing and just kind of expand like there's DLC for his for his gimmick. He's upgrading. I like it. He's becoming Ice Lord. I remember I remember you and me were talking once Willie and we found out that it was a German guy and for some reason that all made it all make sense completely because there's an aspect he was because you're just like, why would this weird like shirtless white guy just be like, yeah, I love cool ice. And then you just put an accent on it and you're like, oh my God, cool ice. Yeah. The foreign part of it makes it makes so much sense. It's this
Starting point is 00:04:23 been like, it's a language that you're, you know, you have not 100% familiarity with. Imagine I'm doing a video blog where I was like, okay, that's the tour of my house and Mr. Cool Ice of either side is like, that's like a gang sign. Yeah, cool ice. Someone should get a tattoo of Mr. Cool Ice of the guy. Yeah, like, please do the style of like Steve Oh's head on the back of his head, but instead it's like a photo of Mr. Cool Ice on your back. Yeah, yeah. Tattoos are DLC for your body. Another tattoo no one will regret. Someone will look down at their own chest and be like, fuck you. See, the thing is, is that I can't stand the idea of having a tattoo. And part of that
Starting point is 00:05:06 reason is my own self knowledge that I would get I'm the type of person who would think it would be really funny to get Mr. Cool Ice tattooed on my back. And I would think it was really, really, really funny for a while. And then it would be a huge mistake. If you can't think 50 years ahead or however your life expectancy is of like, will I look down on this and be like, fuck, yeah, I'll be out of this like going, Oh, no, I like, you know, but I remember back in the day when you were like, you like, you think like tattoos are gross. I mellowed out a little bit on it. You used to be like, Oh, barf. If I see one, they're the worst, grossest thing ever. They are. They are like, has that changed inherently
Starting point is 00:05:54 like, awful to think about because needles and, and it's okay, your own is your own isms. Yes. Yeah. But beyond that, the concept of art on your skin. The problem is that create a wrestler and create a character. Yeah, me always think it like tattoos always look great on the people that would have tattoos. Yeah. Meaning like if you're making a cool call or whatever, your character is almost always like built or tall or like muscular or like powerful looking, you're like, fuck, yeah. And that's great. But like the average person, it's like someone wants to do something on their arm. They're just like a regular Joe Small. You're like, Yeah, so like everyone, people think of more
Starting point is 00:06:34 power to them. People like to think about tattoos. They think of, Oh, look at that cool like buff Yakuza man with a giant dragon on his back. That's right. Look at that stripper with the cool thing going down like her, her side or whatever wings. What they don't think about is that fucking guy who got like the Goof Troop logo tattooed on his forehead. Of course. Right. That's what I think about. Of course. But it can be anything anybody guy loves it and will love it. And it means something to him. Yeah. It reminds him to stand out if you tattoo on your back a big picture of goofy and he's saying, Dory, fuck something. Yeah. That is also a non regrettable thing. I haven't even studied. I've been I've been studying.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Someone said there's a guy on someone sent a tweet. Like an air pocket in one side. It's like you just you squeeze up the air to get the dog. Thanks. Thanks. So context was incredibly important. You gotta it's it's taken. It's going to take efforts. But that sounded like woolly was like practicing his dick noises. In Kingdom Hearts, I was pontificating. How do you actually make this noise? Like it doesn't sound like the human vocal. I got I got one like, oh boy, like I got one out there when I tried it, but you have to do it with the pocket of air in your beard. It's fucking hard. Donald Duck's voice just sound like that and they're broken. No, the guy on Twitter we're talking to he was like, I was just as a kid. I'm like, I
Starting point is 00:08:06 could do it. I could just I just knew how to do it. Where I go, I hear voices, certain voice, I'm like, Oh, I know how that's done. Yeah, like I just pick your voice up or whatever. But Donald Duck has always been like this fast. You need to stop that might be because you're just making gross noise. Yes, and not actually know it. No, but that's the sounds like that's the method. It sounds like you're sucking the tiniest dick in the world. Like a like a like a world smallest violin sized pencil dick. It'd be like it's so vivid. That noise is so bad as opposed to chewing bagels. Let's run with a bagel. Everybody was mad about the bagel. Everybody was mad about the
Starting point is 00:08:48 bagel. No, no one was mad. Okay, there was that one guy who said that I ruined the episode for him. And I was like, thank you. You're not wrong. I'm just saying you can't call it out with the bagel. Everybody loves a bagel. You can't call it out. You don't love bagels. You're crazy. Did you see that they edited the shirt? Yeah, there was a bagel emoji. And then everyone said get this shit out of here. It's a dry bagel and put cream cheese on that shit. And then they literally erased and edited the bagel to have cream cheese on it because everyone was so mad. Oh, man, this is what we're getting mad about nowadays. Well, well, there's when when you're
Starting point is 00:09:28 moving from right like something really get pissed off about and then you need your downtime you need your cool off you need your cool ice you need your Mr. Cool ice level piss off. You can either get mad about that or try to go and or you can walk outside and try yelling at a giant forest fire and see what helps. Hey, that's not gonna you know, I'm not gonna do it. He could. Yeah, he could accidentally cough and vaporize his parents and what might be the lamest why I've ever been like not just like calm down the force but there's a couple of superheroes where I'm like you could be really, really useful if you were real sir. And then there's a couple of their real life scenario like Goku what's Goku like
Starting point is 00:10:13 Sauron. What? Yes, like Sauron. Sorry, there's there's several characters. The dinosaur man. Yes. Okay. Have you ever seen we must have told you about the moment you could use this dinosaur shit to cure cancer in like a second, dude, but I don't want to do that. I want to turn people into dinosaurs. I've always been fascinated as to why Spider-Man was fighting Sauron of all people. It's not like the Savage Land. He's from the Savage Land. Primarily. He is. But he's a weird professor that turned himself into a pterodactyl guy and decided that yeah, it's just basically the lizard. Yeah, but but savage. It's a cool thing to be fighting on the cover of a comic. The end. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know that he actually took
Starting point is 00:10:57 his name like in the comics. He was like I will name myself after J.R. Tolkien's horrible monster. Awesome. I didn't realize that. There's they might have like retconned it since but I remember seeing a panel where he's like this literary masterwork which shall not be named. There you go. Blah, blah, blah. And I'm pretty sure it's also because the pterodactyl is a natural predator of the spider. Yeah. As all Spider-Man villains. Much like the goblin. And the symbiotes. Exactly. And the water. And sand. Yes, sand. The ultimate. The spider's natural enemy. Hates it. Hates it. So that tweet's pretty funny, but the funniest thing about it is the very last word where it's like it lists everything and then it just says period. Then it says everything. Anyway. What is
Starting point is 00:11:43 going on in your respective weeks, gentlemen? Hey, let's all just I'm sure Castlevania season two. Yeah, let's start with that. Oh yeah, you guys are. I'm assuming you finished. You had one more episode to go. Yeah, a while ago. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, the last thing you said. It's really, really, really good. It's fantastic. It's so much better. Like not that the first season was bad, but it had so little going on comparatively to this because it was just like long drunken scenes of Trevor doing things that kind of went. Oh, I hate being a Belmont. It was. I love getting all these cool fighting skills, but I hate the Belmonts. It was quite clearly a chapter zero. Yeah. And it was showing you that it didn't mind taking its time to build the world. But then the rest of
Starting point is 00:12:28 the season two is like just fast paced shit happening all the time and like a nice depending on where the camera is. Yeah. So we were saying this yesterday, depending on whether we're following the villains. Yeah. Or the heroes. It's not a boom. It's not a boom. It's more like a I enjoyed like Alucard. Shut up. I want to go back to talking to Hector. I enjoyed their antics, but I appreciated absolutely that they had nothing to do but flip through books for like four scenes, five scenes. It's probably the most interesting when someone has ever been like, let's have our heroes just in a library reading books for like three episodes. Yeah. And it still was really entertaining. There's there's something I really like about it is like every gang of heroes
Starting point is 00:13:14 or whatever has the nerd has the character that would actually go to the library and do the thing. Yeah. Now, occasionally in a story, you'll have, okay, all of you guys look through the books too, and then they'll have the shot where the one like, oh, I found the thing that you look whatever. Avatar. Yeah. Right. But here it's like, hey, you two are stupid as fuck. I'm just going to read these books. All you're here to do is hand me books. So this is something that I've noticed it's becoming a problem in like stories now, but it's only popping up ever since like modern long form narrative stories or like shows are starting to happen more frequently. But it's a thing where you have multiple parties to follow and one party just
Starting point is 00:14:02 doesn't have enough to swap back and forth. And sometimes you'll swap from the same party to the same party again, right? Game of Thrones. So Game of Thrones is the one we talked about a while ago. Other shows have started having that issue as well. Westworld season two has started having that problem big heavy when you're like, you're jumping around between like three or four different groups of people, but there's definitely times when they're not all on the same, they're not on symmetrical beats, you know? So you're jumping back to a group that has nothing to do but cross a desert. The first couple, like I want to say maybe two to three seasons, maybe just two of Game of Thrones. It wasn't really a problem. But as more people dropped out of the show, there was more
Starting point is 00:14:43 emphasis placed on a group that never had that much going on to begin with. As the circles, the concentric circles get tighter and tighter, right? You have to jump back and forth until you're eventually doing three cuts to the same people. I will use an example we are all familiar with, which is Naruto as the worst example I can think of of this ever, because manga doesn't care. Manga will just drop a character for like books and go back, oh yeah, that's what they were doing. But in the fucking broadcast version of when Orochimaru is fighting the fucking third Hokage, he and he gets him in that soul bullshit and they go, oh no, we're struggling. Who will win? Whoever wins will not die. And then there are like 10, what 20 chapters worth of what Naruto
Starting point is 00:15:30 and the other gang are doing. But in broadcast, you can't go 20 weeks without showing what is happening, so you keep cutting back every episode to the old man and the snake doing, oh no, in this tug of war. But that's not a Naruto, that's a dragon ball. Yeah, yeah. Like, just what? That's anime pacing where what's happening with those guys? Oh, nothing. Yeah, we learned very quickly that something that your eyeball scans past in seconds takes a while for a voice actor to say, and JoJo as well, where you're like in mid-air full constructed thoughts are being like, you know. I will have more to talk about anime time in a slight moment. Sure you will. And I'll have a better example of this bad, like not enough to show thing. The worst example I know of is in that
Starting point is 00:16:24 really bad filler arc of Kenshin after like the cool arc where Kenshin gets his eyes taken away, gets them put back, travels, and then at the start of this, Saminusuke is trapped in a cave and he's punching out dogs. Always punching the dogs. And then Kenshin goes from like travels across Japan and then other characters doing this and then when it cuts back to Saminusuke six episodes later, he's in mid combo of punching the dogs you originally saw six episodes ago. And even back then when I was like whatever like 17 watching this, I was like, this is horseshit. This is really bad. And that's when I stopped caring about Kenshin back then. So I mean, I guess I'll just tag in since we're on the topic. But this week, I went through the final season of House of Cards.
Starting point is 00:17:17 And that to me is one of the new worst examples of we don't have enough content. Really? Yeah. I wouldn't have expected that kind of type of drama to have that specific problem. Well, they had to kind of throw together a final season very quickly. Thank God they said this is the final season. We can't do more than this. I mean, they did, right? And so you're going in and you're like, all right, this is an ideal circumstances to have to write a story. And I don't want to have to take that into account. But I'm going to, right? Because you just want it to be in a vacuum of its own quality without external factors. But at the end of the day, like, oh man, they did what they could with what they had. But boy, does it become a parody of itself by the end.
Starting point is 00:18:09 I watched the trailer for the season. I was like, this looks cool. But I kind of got the feeling that yeah, I was slapped out. I've asked this question before, but I kind of want to get the answer every time we run into this. Would you rather something not conclusively end or for it to end badly? I'd rather it end. And I don't even think you're saying this is bad this season, right? Is that correct? Hold on, because I talked about this not barely a month ago or so with Vagabond. And the fact that it just trails into nothing is super painful. So I think I would rather get a conclusion. Did anybody ever, did anybody here watch the newish Battlestar Galactica? Some episodes, but yeah. Okay, because that that ends like
Starting point is 00:19:00 astonishingly badly. Like like it like retroactively fucks up like a whole season. Like it ends bad. To be perfectly honest, I feel like most people would say let it end because I think as human beings, we desire closure. We desire the ability to put something and file it away because we're great at categorization. And when something is loose ended and you have questions that the questions unanswered is a way worse feeling. You don't want to put that folder away in the unsolved mysteries folder. It's so much more I guess we'll never know why that happened or how they got out of that situation versus they did it in a really stupid way. They all got sick and died. Yeah, done. Even like because because the answer to how do you get out of this one being
Starting point is 00:19:50 they didn't know and they wrote a really bad stupid explanation for it is still an answer. So House of Cards final season. Yeah, it's not great. It's the weakest easily. It's basically becoming parody of itself because it feels as if what they did was they kind of as the show went on over the seasons. I mean the original British show ended after three, right? So they kind of most British shows do. They pulled an office here and they kind of let it become its own thing and kept it going. And for the most part you're able to buy into it because every time something really insane happens they would spend a lot of time dealing with the aftermath, right? Yeah. So they would ramp up something nutty and then you'd go like that's what you can't what right. I watched
Starting point is 00:20:42 the first two seasons but never got around to more. So they'll do something right like someone will die and you're like that's crazy and then they'll spend an entire season or two figuring out how to handle the results of that the aftermath. And you go okay, yeah that's as big of a deal as it should have been therefore I can buy into this while the rest of the time. Sometimes a lot of deaths are like that sucks and that was because that that actor didn't wanted more money and they don't spend time like you know properly. Sure. Yeah. So but this is like actually let's make this death really meaningful and like yeah I have to deal with the aftermath of it which is very rare. And you know you're kind of used to a certain thing where like on TV shows like in movies in
Starting point is 00:21:25 general a lot of insane shit will happen in a way where you're like why do the police just not exist in this world? Why are gunshots like continuously being fired over the course of 10 minutes and no one is showing up? You know like fuck like John Wick is great but like don't even think about that yeah you know. Man this hotel just has gunshots 24-7 should anyone? Nope no one's calling in with the assassin guild. You know what John Wick has this John Wick's entire world has plot armor. Yep there's a specific assassin guild bullet sound that people know when they hear that type. Oh don't don't call the cops those are not normal shots being fired. Just give those cops weird gold doubloons. Lately forgot about the weird gold doubloons. That's how you do it. That
Starting point is 00:22:16 shit is super dumb. I bet you know it works. Yeah but you know so this kind of goes off in such a way where it takes all of the biggest craziest twists and points and whatnot and it starts throwing them at you at the end of almost every episode so it just turns into a parody soap opera version of itself. Does it does it become almost like a hindi sort of soap opera where it's probably not as as like in your face but there's so many moments that you feel the camera wants to zoom in and spin around. Okay okay so I'm like I'm gonna say that six out of eight episodes end with the final shot being like Claire Underwood just staring at the camera being like and then you zoom out and some stupid shit is happening or like one of those like oh you didn't see this thing coming right.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Like it's it's such a it's and it's like those moments would happen after all build up in the original show and here they're like every single episode it's gonna end on a punch. And you're saying six out of eight. Almost every see every episode of the final season you have a big like you have to end on a zinger man. Wait this is only eight episodes not thirteen. So it's even less so when you're like oh they're stretched for material but they're like that's cutting it short and then you kind of get so you get these big like pop-off finishers but the rest of the episodes are following three parties around that don't have enough to do so we're just kind of cutting back and forth to the same three or four rooms. Talking about like who broke the coffee machine
Starting point is 00:24:04 and stuff like that. And and and like everyone is just like people that are like at each other's throats or just have they have to be able to casually converse with each other people that shouldn't like the bad guys should not have White House clearance to walk into the White House and and or be like or like ambush the president you know what I mean. How'd you get into the fucking Oval Office to ambush me in a way that's like oh I'm gonna I'm here to give you a sat I'm here to sass you but it's like you're the fucking president you know so like you have why is everyone getting to go at me. I need to ask whether or not there's a plot twist that they were all lizards all along. I doubt it. So you get this whole thing that builds up and then as you're going through
Starting point is 00:24:53 it you're like man this is getting really fucking wacko but hey if you're going somewhere with it we'll we'll buy in right I'll buy in and then and then you can have my chips and it fucking just gets to its final moments and you're like you're looking at the clock like oh no there's not enough time to wrap this up. Oh man. Oh no. You're just breaking the next Netflix button to see the amount of time that you're like you're like you're like you're looking around like oh no it's the clock's running out you don't have enough time. Matt did you ever finish season three of Twin Peaks? No. Because what Willie is describing the final episode. Oh no. The final episode of Twin Peaks might be the worst example of that ever in that you have about a hundred questions
Starting point is 00:25:43 and you look at the timer and you're like there are 12 minutes remaining in this series and the characters are wordlessly driving somewhere on a highway for like five entire minutes and you're just like you're like maybe it's genius because you're getting anxious you're getting really anxious. But at the end of the day I for that I know I'm watching a David Lynch thing so I should I should go in never expecting to get an answer but for a show like House of Cards which is very like formulaic in terms of like American dramas whatever you know just like oh no watch the next episode like that shocks me that even a show like that you're looking at the you want to sacrifice more characters for time on the clock yeah you're not getting it and you're
Starting point is 00:26:34 so you just you just lay out like a bunch of impact shots that you're going to close out the episodes on yeah and then nothing else and then you find then you're like oh no there's 30 seconds left and then you're like you just didn't have an ending you had nothing and so it basically ends on not an ending it could be but it might as well also be a cliffhanger it just stops oh great I'm glad you took the time to rush out a final season to then also still end on a cliffhanger to the point where as soon as I hit it and then Netflix zooms out and does the picture in picture and you don't see a next episode and then I go these motherfuckers had the audacity to set themselves up for another season and then you hit that wiki and it's like no that was actually it that sucks and you're like
Starting point is 00:27:19 oh this was a colossal waste of your time um it so like so yeah it's really awful in the sense that like you have to decide between hey do you want to leave off if you're enjoying house of cards do you want to leave off or do you want to know what's going on or do you want to know how they handle stuff stuff if you have any curiosity like go in and check it out because they did some things that I was like yeah okay that's that's cool you know then uh there's a couple moments of like that's that's an interesting way to play it given that you know like Kevin Spacey's fucking gone yeah uh they make some interesting plays like audibles I'll say on the field but ultimately um fucking just woof couldn't stick that landing um I don't have much to say about it
Starting point is 00:28:07 like because yeah I'll just I'll just say this quick thing I have a strong recommend for you specifically there's another Netflix show that just that just got added six episodes British called the bodyguard very very very good stars the actor that played Rob Stark okay um and he plays a bodyguard to a British politician uh he he was in the uh Iraq war and so he is suffering from PDSD and she has policies that he really doesn't agree with and but he's but he's still a bodyguard first and foremost so he does his job and there's a huge like really interconnected plot six episodes but each one is like packed and like satisfying ending doesn't fuck around every episode feels like really complete and every episode feels really important and just like pretty fascinating and
Starting point is 00:28:58 like again British TV I'm just kind of realizing like how not like a hundred percent success rate but much higher in that it's always better to write your story assuming you're not going to be a massive conclusion exactly yeah no but as far as British TV goes I'm I'm there's that and Mothman turned me on to a touch of cloth which is just how do you write an entire cop drama around puns and I want I want to find out more what it would like whatever this thing is it's called a touch of cloth and every clip from it has been just stupid and also hilarious and British TV is like god damn it I wish I had like British Netflix you know to just go to that section what I'm in that mood is that you would you would already be done with it yeah I guess so that's there's that too
Starting point is 00:29:44 but I feel good about the completion of everything um the funny enough that you like we can say Luther's in series in season five it's starting up it's already started and that show is like 10 years old or more now yeah um all right but yes by the people who made black mirror right right right the guy okay uh it's funny how we can say like Rob start and like yet I know Kit Harrington but I I can't possibly his last name is no Madden really his name is Richard Madden something like that you should call him up be like hey cuz but if I said are we related get me on the show depends on how far back we go would be like so whatever if the names get shared it goes back at some point of the boat Madden's or the pre boat Madden's at some point um the uh uh yeah there
Starting point is 00:30:36 was no I was gonna say like I remember when I was watching Luther too like it's like two episodes end of first season yeah that shit is ridiculous damn while it's in season five it's see it's three seasons of content for the regular amount of consumption that we do for shows but if you end up feeling satisfied can you really complain no someone brings you out courses of meals that are all really small but by the end you're like I'm I'm sated you're really gonna complain about that nah um but yeah house cards waste of time um ow and that might be the lowest possible score on the recommendation thing which is just it's a waste of time you didn't even call it bad yeah you just said it was a waste of time well that sounds like he's saying it's a five or six
Starting point is 00:31:27 oh man your ultimate but I but I will say that like okay the feeling I got midway through season two of westworld was like rolling my eyes like fucking this is this is painful to watch yeah this had it going like this is painful but it was like you but you could still take it somewhere if you have a plan no and it's only it's only when that gets cut short that you go oh my god right so ultimately like it's not as bad as that but still the waste of time uh I mean depends it just depends on how much invested you were right so I mean I did that and um obviously uh I uh got my stream going and an acceptable amount of balls were exposed I'm glad that you have fallen into the same traps as everybody else which is hmm it is hard to
Starting point is 00:32:27 figure out whether or not the your audio is broadcasting sometimes well I was gonna say from the guy who texted me going hey you know you're muted right and then I fucking like tune in a day later and catch oh what your shit's not plugged in and it's like this happens to everybody everybody I should mention I texted you like a while in I waited oh yeah I very intentionally waited I'm like this is pretty funny yeah he's gonna realize in a second yeah and then I'm like oh he's got the VR headset on he's not gonna look over and oh yeah get the chat the hardest to do it if you're doing the VR the VR foibles are a consistent thing Liam had his and I think his was the screen was just not at all broadcasting and it's just the headset waving around like
Starting point is 00:33:15 it's a fucking mess the art adds another wonderful dimension to the live broadcast um I said last week it's like get ready for doing every single possible thing you can do to prepare yourself yeah multiple test runs for you to just yeah not have it work I mean I've had it to the point where it's like oh nothing's on yeah I didn't turn any of the equipment on I made sure it all works but I just didn't hit that button yeah yeah exactly and I mean and you guys both have like again occasional co-pilots to help you like point out something that the chat might mention or something that's going on that you probably should know right and right right now uh in my case she's just over in the fucking corner studying and being like whatever your dumb bullshit is you're playing your video
Starting point is 00:34:03 games honey like no but having fun with your dolls no but act but almost like there you know and I'm like look like by all means like if you happen to notice something if you glance over and it's like it's awful just kick me she's only your hair appears to be on fire I was about to say she looks over she's like half the room that you're in is on fire but because you had the VR helmet on yes um that someone has to have unfortunately died like that they didn't know no we would have heard about it was in VR and then they just something around them happened something happened wow this this this these gunshots feel really realistic yeah fucking uh the I just created a actual nightmare in my own mind about putting on a VR headset and then people sneaking into your house
Starting point is 00:34:50 and shooting you oh now I'm terrified of VR great yeah well it still sounds different like there's something the like real gunfire doesn't sound like what you hear in movies and yeah but by the time you hear that it's you've been shot there is that too there is that too um but anyway so yeah I ran that little stream and after uh I guess I kind of just wanted to I played a bit more Tetris effect and tried to focus on like T spinning stuff and whatnot and um kind of good time with that uh there is man yeah like getting like okay getting like super good at Tetris obviously besides like memorizing how to drop things and just reacting to shapes and sizes and whatnot you're you're memorizing formations in the way that you memorize chest formations right there's
Starting point is 00:35:50 an aspect to this where you have to see a certain uh a set of pieces coming and kind of memorize exactly what kind of blocks you want to make and you know that you're going to get what you want within seven blocks or so but if you don't like that chess like skill aspect of it where it's about just memorizing these setups plannings for nerds yeah that's going to be a part of it you know so there's a there's a level there where you're like oh this is like and and it's the same with almost anything skilled right it's completely ruined Tetris for me oh well it's fighting games too isn't it no but it is no but it is I play a hundred percent by fucking emotion right but you could be better yeah if you that but and that's all it is you can play if I decided to ruin fighting games for
Starting point is 00:36:35 myself forever yeah I could be better but here's the thing I'm not ruining Tetris for you you can still play it by feel oh but what I am ruined no but you all you've killed shut up everything you everything you play and everything you experience you can take it as far as you're comfortable with right I'm not a nerd this is why Smash Brothers is a good game regardless and we can still enjoy it but if you're not doing all the shit that mango is doing you know it's a whether or not you care about that oh I meant SNL mango for one second for one second that they meant SNL I mean I'm glad that your mind still remembers mango but sorry that you ruined Tetris and there's a and there's this whole thing where you're like okay how much do you care about the fact that you're not doing
Starting point is 00:37:15 this amazing thing you've seen somewhere you know and and and you know like I'm getting used to it and that and that ultimately is like any game of skill right any character action games you're like you're seeing what Sory and Dash is doing and you're going like oh I'm not able to do that does that make you does that ruin the experience for you not necessarily no so yeah Tetris is a puzzle game it is and what this does is it kind of puts me in a place where it's like going all right fucker do you want to spend the time that game might have I checked out your stream obviously because I saw you're muted about what's Tetris effect that's the name that game might have the weirdest UI I've ever seen the Tetris area of the screen is so small I play so small it is and I
Starting point is 00:37:59 play zoomed out like I play zoomed out because I love those effects but yes you can zoom it out you can yeah okay because I was like man if you have a smaller TV or some shit like it is minuscule is like one eighth of the screen is the game you can absolutely tighten that if they don't allow the real estate for all the cool effects yeah that's why you hired the guy the birds that fucking fly in front of the well while you're playing and you're like I can't I can't see my piece but is it that's is that an L or a reverse L I can't and I did some other stuff that is gonna be coming out soon but it's not ready for public consumption so that means it's currently super secret yep mm-hmm mm-hmm so one of you guys can take it all right hey man what up what
Starting point is 00:38:44 up what up what up play I play a couple things the steam version of killer 7 came out last week I was really really like interested to see how that works since I'm like mouse support on killer 7 that should help immensely just aim get the shots on the on the heaven smiles in that and I was there for the announcement when sudo announced the steam version of it which is being published by nis so that came out I'm like ooh nice it also comes on steam with a bundle that has a digital art book and this the full soundtrack and killer 7 soundtrack is a banger so I'm like oh I'll try that out in this version of killer 7 you can just press one of the number keys one to seven just to switch out to whoever you want at any time that seems like a market improvement
Starting point is 00:39:34 it is because you're like all you have to do is be like dan is one k8 is two and master smith is seven you're like oh this makes the game like so much faster so if you're using a controller I didn't try it with the controller so I don't know the keyboard I press it I believe in for the controller you just press the inventory button and then they bring up a list of them then you select each one manually and press it but this is just a little faster so um yeah it seemed like a really solid port I was I was pretty happy with it the mouse I forgot that the you can level up those characters waiver because they all hold their guns kind of like this and I'm like oh that's kind of a little sucky for a massive phone because it yeah you mean it always start you mean the cursor
Starting point is 00:40:18 moves when yeah it's got sway it's got sway and that's something you level up so take some diazepam yeah you think so uh but yeah I enjoyed that I finished like the first like main full mission uh so and I was like oh this seems like a great port the only problem is like this is weird reload animations have to be 30 frames per second but the rest of the game is 60 or above I hate that uh they're like we tried to make it all on parody but it actually fucked up the game by trying to stop the reload animations because they're canned little cutaways and I'm like okay it really didn't bother me I was playing it like I didn't really notice but other than that it seemed really solid um I also gave Spyro reignited uh ago you mean the
Starting point is 00:41:06 newest in the Dark Souls franchise the newest in the Snoop Dogg franchise and I'd played Ripdo's Rage a bit at a friend's house like when that was out and aside from that it was Spyro is always a weird series or I'm like Spyro seemed neat what a what a rambunctious character and I never actually play them up until this point and you're playing them now and aside from them looking really really really good and controlling well it's like yeah these are really basic platformers uh and I I didn't play the the third one so I don't know like how it evolved but I enjoyed what was I liked it a hell of a lot more than the crash ones because I don't particularly enjoy crash gameplay like at all but I was I was enjoying this for what it is because like it's just a free roaming 3d thing
Starting point is 00:41:56 and it's it's cute yeah crash you look back on it now and it seems like hopelessly linear yeah and whereas this is like pretty open right I mean it's like you know Mario 64 like so I saw some really awesome fan art of adult Spyro that was super cool because initially I I they put out a little like behind the scenes make a nose of this and they're like he went through so many designs he was going to be a full-fledged big adult dragon and then they kept going oh shrink him down they gave him a one voice actor and their feedback from was like he's really annoying and they they redubbed him as another voice actor in the other game so he went through a lot of iterations is it the same voice as as a dum de dum it sounds like it but I don't think it's the same
Starting point is 00:42:39 guy no it's tricky it's like I think it's like his first version was tricky and everyone's like oh he's super annoying and sounds like a like a brat and like this like when I'm not sure if they rerecorded the dialogue I'm assuming they did and I'm like hey he's he's nice he's like kind of like you know not too annoying like he's just like that sonic type but yeah I enjoyed that and I also played a horror game that I don't want to play again called Lost in Vivo and I've some people have been talking about it it just came out like a few days ago and probably the scariest thing I've played in a long time especially really because you don't especially since the start of the game is because you lose your corgi down a sewer hole oh that's dark I don't like and he's fine and he's
Starting point is 00:43:28 kidnapped in the sewers so you can rescue him but I played about 30 minutes and I was like I'm no I'm stopping is the first person it's first person but unlike every first person in a horror game on steam you have a bevy of weapons a sledgehammer a knife guns and it's much more akin to silent hill than any first person game huh like it has the same type of music it has save points it has maps you have to collect and there's enemies that attack you the only thing that's weird is that it has regenerating health that is weird health pickups or at least that I found but it was absolutely terrifying and just incredible sound design so there's that does that game have a weird aesthetic I think I might have seen it it's like silent hill one aesthetic it's better looking than silent
Starting point is 00:44:15 hill one like it's better looking than a lot of PlayStation games but it is going for that aesthetic like it looks better than those puppet combo none massacres that we played during the shitstorm like it looks better than that has some nicer lighting effects and it's stuff that the PlayStation could not do but yeah we're still trying to go for that you look back on the ps1 and boy there was a lot it couldn't fucking do even compared to the two systems around it yeah it couldn't render pixels in fucking 3d space properly and aside from that uh yeah at a busy at a busy like we just working on future videos and stuff uh and like a fighting game theme thing I want to do where I review the intros of fighting games because there's a couple of bangers that I
Starting point is 00:45:03 have a personal like interest in toshin den a couple guys obviously what's the best virtual fighter intro the answer is three this is the only one that has one no they all have those demo attract little they do they do a little get get down get down and then just has everyone doing their moves and they do the little yeah you see some first person stuff has all the cg where jeffrey is stabbed a spear in the shark and is riding it uh jackie and sarah are like being hunted down by the stupid organization it's the only one that has a big dumb I'll be real I don't remember any I remember I remember a bunch of life has a really big dumb one that's just them doing moves and it's oh I don't even count that in my mind there's like a character standing alone on
Starting point is 00:45:52 the on the demo on the stage just punching and kicking and doing stuff and then like a first person view and then immediately my brain interrupts and goes dilla dilla uh virtual fighter three I was like yeah that's Tekken 5 in there uh Tekken 5 would be in there but I kind of forgot about Tekken 4 as well has actually a pretty dumb good one um so yeah fighting game theater is something I I kind of started up uh getting done this week my path is clearer with honest eyes yeah oh with a lot of ease and of course of course soul edge has to be well that's number one that that is number one but it's not what I'm starting with nothing's gonna beat that yeah um but yeah that's something fun I've been working on so that's that's kind of me for the
Starting point is 00:46:35 week all right I got three things to talk about number one is include it also includes a present for Matt from one cappuccino gill what is this hey loopy lore yeah yeah yeah there you go it's another it's another loopy lore so page and I hung out with uh mr gill uh last week the oh cool creator hey loopy lore of loopy town yep cool and uh described uh that he had given uh woolly me and page copies and then realized after having made all those copies oh I'm such a jackass I didn't make one for Matt therefore handed me that here you go Matt it's a really cool game uh I described it yeah uh we played it uh like that I it was really hard for me to understand the explanation that you gave me not because the explanation you gave was bad but because
Starting point is 00:47:35 I didn't quite grasp because it's a it's a tabletop game in which every all of the props are suggestions like it is an idea-based game where you are just creating a stupid little fan fiction with your pals yeah it's it's not it's like like there are ways to fuck people up but it's ultimately like not a uh it's cooperative in it's when we when we hung out with Gil he described how much he actually he much prefers cooperative multiplayer games to competitive ones and found out how in certain games he can break them entirely like tabletop or board games by refusing to compete with other players and that actually leads to like infinite stalemates right so he took like some of that and said what if it was just a game where there is no individual winner at all it is all a
Starting point is 00:48:32 group effort and it is just here's your topic here's your plot twist here's your here's your setting and just go make up a good the only thing you can do to fuck people over is when somebody's got a really good idea yeah and they're telling the story real well you throw a really dumb ass plot twist at them and force your friend to scramble to explain why there is now time so that's what I was basically explaining is you have these combo breakers that are the plot twists but effectively it's similar to how like noby noby boy is more of a toy than it is a video game yes you know I laugh because I'm like where is this going because it's yeah your goals are different but it's still a really fun time it it was a blast uh and you get to walk out it it almost
Starting point is 00:49:17 feels like a a scaled down card based version of the story elements of a dnd campaign right not not the stats and not the roles but just like the part where you're you're you and your pals are telling each other stories based on but it but obviously like the fact that it's like okay I played some dnd over the weekend really okay not really but I did oh did you roll a die did you roll one dice it was being virtually rolled for me and it was invisible got it that still counts a dice was rolled in your name yeah uh thank you for your loopy lore gill it is it is a super fun game and I'm hope I'm very excited for it to hopefully get a proper real release so good luck uh gill check out at what's it at loopy lore game or just at loopy lore and follow for updates on that uh in
Starting point is 00:50:10 addition to that in terms of uh proper ass video games uh just bear with me guys I know you don't know what the fuck I'm talking about the fortuna update came out for warframe that's their big update that they've been pushing the one who just explained what it is yeah the uh on them on them that ice planet venus uh the one that had that we all lift why don't you just tell me the movie you would like to see um that came out and that was do you remember back before I got into warframe there was probably a point where I saw or one of you I saw the planes of idol on something and the the feeling about that game was what the fuck is warframe what no what is it it's warface no what no seriously what the fuck is this game I thought it was a corridor shooter that sucked
Starting point is 00:51:00 why is it why are there people flying around on an open world now I just remember I remember my thing being like oh it's like that free to play ninja game yeah yeah well uh the fortuna update adds the ice open world which is like stupid massive like proper almost open world level massive and it adds those space ninja skateboards that are fantastic and fun to use it's like it from a gameplay standpoint it is a evolution of their open world template which is a lot of fun and there's a bunch of shit that's broken that they need to fix because that's how that game releases things it releases things and they're awesome but like oh yeah the fishing in these five areas is completely fucked don't even attempt it etc but probably the most interesting thing is
Starting point is 00:51:48 the theming around it like you know the robot workers there's a lot of body horror and like crazy has to be debt slavery like nightmare fuel so it really is for tuna entertainment give it a minute don't know what you're talking about you wouldn't you should oh yes it is there we go continue damn took a minute what help me here tms go oh never mind um but like your body horror would have been such a great subplot yeah you're your japanese idols in body horror oh no thanks you're dealing with you're dealing with like indentured servants that have to sell their organs correct you know you're dealing with indentured servants who have to sell their organs and limbs to like get get loans to buy robot limbs okay and then
Starting point is 00:52:48 have to spend the rest of their lives paying those off or else more of their actual organs will be taken away to pay for them and it is shut there's a they don't just take the limbs away well there's a movie that has jude law on it where they're literally guys that come and repossess your organs yes yeah repo man yes and in fact one of the enemy factions is like oh the repo man or the tax man is coming there is a guy in the very early quest that gets fucked real bad and essentially ends up becoming a brain with legs and it's just like oh boy like warframe sci-fi like weird techno organic aesthetic has always been really bizarre but this shit brings it to the point where it's like uncomfortable and the farther you get into that the more uncomfortable it gets to the point where
Starting point is 00:53:44 i don't want to say too much but there are people who have gotten to the end of the rep grind in that area and are desperate to roll it back and undo it because it is too much it is it is making players uncomfortable and i think that's fucking great sick um and i guess you don't expect it in your free to play ninja game yeah there's like body horror you're like oh it's there's there's been they've been going a lot darker with a lot of their stuff recently one of the last story quests they did was all about body horror it was all about like hey what if you were trapped in a hospital bed and a bunch of horrific shit happened to you and it's like this is not really what i thought i was gonna do with my fucking loot ninja game i thought i was going to get a new hat
Starting point is 00:54:32 porn yes we're we're going to have to answer these questions soon um i mean it's one of those categories of awful horror that will become real yeah it's not like oh monsters or ghosts or some shit it's like no like the idea of your body slowly becoming not yours and the question of the of the uh what's the boat whose boat is it where you replace the place oh jason's uh boat from the argonauts you know that is going to absolutely happen like to human beings within the shockingly near future anybody doesn't know what that is it's a philosophical exercise about uh should i bother explaining this or just tell people to look it up i'll fucking explain it okay ah it'll take two seconds okay jason and the the argonauts go on their fucking mission to get the fleece right they
Starting point is 00:55:19 come out with the boat but over the course of the adventure the boat gets so fucking jacked up that every single piece and bolt and piece of wood of the boat gets replaced ship of theceus and that theceus ship of theceus whatever they come back and then they and they go they're all looking at a boat is that the same boat even though not a single atom of that boat is the same as the one that left does it still count as the boat and and and and i mean to be perfectly honest like the question of that being the boat thing is really just a philosophical one not really because you know the nut there is not one single atom of woolly or matt in your bodies right now but that was there 10 years ago but what i mean is exactly but also the concept of woolly and matt is not real
Starting point is 00:56:01 yeah so yeah no real i can see you but but me being actually woolly is just a concept it's a concept no you're right there i can see you yeah okay exactly so so you know that ultimately suck philosophers you don't know shit go fucking watch the go follow open bionics on tom on not tumblr on um instagram apparently it's a lot you're not going to be able to follow on tumblr in near apparently so yeah uh but go follow open bionics on instagram to see them like giving people gems jensen limbs basically slowly and those people are awesome and it's rad but it's awesome and it's also like we are comfortable looking at and slowly replacing things like arms we're looking at fucking nero on our screen up here i don't think we're gonna get there in a little while no maybe
Starting point is 00:56:44 not but the point is that limbs still don't feel like a part of you like it's you but you can easily see it as an extension of you versus something internal like an organ or something like that where you get fully see that's goofy because i look at it the other way the organs that i can't feel i don't care if they get replaced interesting okay whatever but like i know what my hand looks like yeah okay i know what my head looks like yeah i feel the opposite but ultimately but ultimately when you get down to uh all of it getting replaced all of it except your brain yeah what at what point are you comfortable stopping and furthermore like what if you don't have a choice there's a star trek episode i think in which you mean all of them no there's one there's a bunch that are like i think
Starting point is 00:57:26 it's in deep space nine where there's a guy who has some traumatic brain injury and they replace half his brain with a computer and like these questions start to arise and then they have to replace more of his brain with a computer and at some point they're like okay we could keep this guy alive how much of his brain are we really willing to replace with a computer before we just get like what are you saving at that point yeah at what point did we just go wait it's just a robot in a fleshy suit i guess i guess even in star trek senator kelly's really important oh i guess here's a question if if science goes and develops both parallel branches so that replacing yourself with robot limbs and parts or transplants are both equally as as effective
Starting point is 00:58:12 yeah uh and the same which is more horrifying giving yourself robot limbs or giving yourself someone else's limbs i want the someone else's limbs yeah i don't want to be a frank and you want someone else's limbs no i said that's more horrifying you you started over it i might bet no get getting somebody else's parts and just stapling them on that's way more fun even if they become completely functional and real yeah to the point even if you get a full body do style yeah where you can feel everything and you can like hey you have no loss of sensation all right let me let me put it to you this way which okay you okay goro all right follow me here you know he's got dumb arms coming out of his pecs yeah okay what if those were fleshy arms that were stapled on from
Starting point is 00:58:56 somebody else that's pretty gross right sure is it more less gross if those were robot arms instead it's less gross see okay but that's only with a forearm weirdo yeah if you're not a foreign weirdo about arms yeah i think the robot about a normal body yeah i think it's what about liquid snake woolly when no no here you're thinking too small scale if people are able to staple body parts to themselves you're gonna see all sorts of fucking goofy shit yeah but they need to connect in such a way that like i'm not talking about really don't okay not if they're good at i'm i'm talking about transplants so effectively no new limbs that your brain doesn't account for but that or your your brain doesn't have your brain can't account for new but when you look at the the brain's
Starting point is 00:59:41 map of like where your nerve endings lead and stuff like that it has a lot of parts of your body like heavily emphasized like your fingers and your nose and whatnot but there's no extra hands in there neuroplasticity is stronger than you might expect certainly but as a hypothetical i'm i'm i'm i'm straight up saying replace or robotic and i'm i i'm all chromey up okay okay because like you need the neuropasine to counteract all i would love seven million times like yes these things will just be flopping around like goro's fake arms like they're just like not useful because they're not connected to the body which is which is which is or which are you able to like you have a choice yeah and you have to abandon you this body this body has given up on you
Starting point is 01:00:25 you're in a vegetable state uh would you rather replace your parts with another person's parts because it gets really complicated can you feel stuff in the robot body no maybe not in the same way maybe it has to be yes not in the same way they're working on it like you will you will know that the sensation is there because like sensors will tell your brain that contact is being made okay but it will not be the same sense as touch actually that's not necessarily true yeah i know you can wire it up i know i know i would actually be more grossed out and not feel great if i had someone else's arm versus if i was in someone else's complete body yeah like i'd rather be in that body okay and have all of it okay rather than just have like like his left ball yeah or his ass
Starting point is 01:01:09 would it make a difference if the flesh didn't look dead and zombified well we're gonna i'm assuming that it wouldn't i also okay no i don't think many people are gonna fucking sign up for charlie treatment dead flesh or like like like frankenstein looks at him he's like oh what the fuck never gonna get a bride like this although what if i do yeah uh angelina jolly was supposed to play the bride of frankenstein the next monster verse movie that makes sense that's a good casting it is furrowed i can't wait for it yeah it's it's it's gonna come out real soon anyway real soon uh so yeah i uh played loopy lore i played uh fortuna update and warframe and i finished off hunter hunter which as in you caught up or as in it's over it's over okay i i went from episode
Starting point is 01:02:00 60 whatever to 148 now being sick as fuck how for about five of those days really helped got it and then there was just like two nights of just like i'm i bet i can do it all of it yeah all of it wow all the way to 148 um so the last update that i gave you is uh what was it hey what happens when your manga artist just wants to do a completely different story and goes from like a murder fucking heist movie to fuck it yay it's yugioh right why not why why not probably the goofiest thing that coincided with today's podcast is on our subreddit is hey check out the author of hunter hunter and you you hack a show's room did you see this photo i did not it is it is him in front of a crt swimming in literal garbage like like hoarder like old trash that's insane right that's fucking
Starting point is 01:03:04 what is that it's it no he so apparently it is suspected that many of his health issues over time are because he is a massive insane hoarder and the only reason i bring that up is because there is a character at the end of greed island once the arc is over that they walk in and it is a complete one-to-one recreation of the author's shit garbage room just lying in trash so he called himself out yes he totally called himself out okay and the character the gun is just grossed out by his own creator going oh and like bad to the point of hey sit down and he goes dude and he goes oh okay one second and just like mushes garbage out of the way and it's like go sit down on that wet spot on the floor see my brain
Starting point is 01:04:04 always thought that famous mangaka had a big clean office and everybody in it was doing all their bidding and depends if you're i it depends on the author if you're really really big you can work from home and then you get to completely modify everything so eric like eric he can't possibly be drawing in anything besides a museum with greek pillars and running water like may have ocd because everything in his house is immaculate yeah everything that i've seen there's there's a there's a chapter in between cover a chapter blurb where he talks about like finding his partner's false eyelash on the ground and like freaking out and freaking out about it yeah it was a whole episode so and the weirdest part is that that trash man is married to the
Starting point is 01:04:50 creator sailor moon and i guess she just loves him enough to deal with the trash any dead cats under there fucking napy yeah you know what yeah and so i bring this up also because the arc afterwards which is you remember i remember people talking to me about naruto and about the nightmare that is the great ninja war the because you went through all of what i know to be naruto and then you look at the stack of volumes on the shelf and then like 60 of the entire series what is the apparently great ninja war is just super massive holy shit right okay i mean in my brain i'm like well i want to know what happened in the past so that sounds like a decent idea on paper so hunter hunter has been online for a long time right way past the anime adaptation but at the time of its
Starting point is 01:05:42 adaptation or at the time of the chimera ant arc there are 148 episodes in that anime run 80 plus arc chimera ant more than half are just straight up yo ants though and i think about that and i go the arc right before where he showed us the garbage and then the arc right after is about an infestation of ants i can only surmise that the idea came to him because he was literally being overrun with filth and bugs yeah yeah like actually that seems absolutely correct and took inspiration from that take your own nightmares they make for great manga fodder yeah and and and and so all of what this this series has become highs and lows are because he's a super gross hoarder yeah maybe possibly possibly little bits so i'm gonna obviously have to talk around the chimera
Starting point is 01:06:40 ant arc it's very famous but there's obviously i don't want to spoil it for anybody so i will do what was what ipatch wolf did for me when i asked about it and it is used dbz as an analogy because everyone fucking knows what dbz is right so quite simply i don't agree with ipatch wolf's description of this arc he has always sold it to me as what if majin bu showed up in the saiyan saga instead of raditz what would actually happen okay that would be bad yes we can all agree that would be a tough battle yes now i disagree with the story would be over i disagree with that thing i think that's a bit extreme i think that's a bit ridiculous and i've been workshopping a similar analogy that i think is slightly more accurate so trunks comes back in time to warn the kid the
Starting point is 01:07:36 gang about the androids but he doesn't know about cell right we all know that and then he chops up frieza and his dad and his dad kills him no problem so what if instead of that happening trunks comes back and goes hey dudes androids are coming it's gonna be real bad right and frieza lands hey frieza what's up frieza walks out and so do 17 and 18 and so does perfect cell literally eating a baby like a human child okay just eating its brain okay and they go oh oh all right hey goku pre uh fucking what's it cut with a hyperbolic time chamber i guess you got cell what's that mean okay yamsha you now have to defeat frieza krillin you now have to defeat 17 okay and then split it up in that way and piccolo you now have to defeat 18 what does trunks do
Starting point is 01:08:39 he gets fucking killed in one second okay in fact it might be the first thing that happens okay his cell kills and literally eats him okay so the trunks is the baby yes okay whatever and at the point is that oh this is you have to stack up the team according to relative strengths but it's all horrific mismatches right it's all awful and cell might be literally eating hundreds of thousands of children's brains a day the problem with the dragon ball analogy is the way the dragon ball is written it doesn't matter how hard you stack the deck it really doesn't because they just win regardless so but numbers have to come into play and here's true and here's opposed to strategy and here's where it works whereas in dbz this would end the story instantly because you remember
Starting point is 01:09:35 i talked briefly about all that nenshit at some point that kind of falls by the wayside and they just start they're just stands shut up they are just stands they are just part seven stands it it's it moves from like they'll explain to you exactly how it works in the background but in the reality it's hey what can you do i can do this one weird thing and boy is it fucking weird does it ever become my spirit clone can do this one weird thing yes okay explicitly okay in fact so it's not yeah okay and and and long stretches of shonen battles are based around he hasn't seen me use my not a stand yet therefore we have an advantage because we've seen him use his not a stand and everyone's cautious right a lot of it a lot of like things in like jojo
Starting point is 01:10:27 whatever is i need to see the nature of their attack and then i can figure it like that's all they need yeah like oh he probably has a close range stand i'm using strong i'm using dbz analogs because of like respective power and all that stuff understand but it is actually stands except for the main antagonist who is actually just perfect cell doesn't show any nearly any supernatural ability whatever he is a dbc character dropped into jojo's bizarre adventure with all the like in fact back one second prior to this podcast i pulled up a photo of said ant king that is sell that is a lot nothing to do it matt look at this look at this no he's he's going okay that is actually perfect cell that is
Starting point is 01:11:17 actually just sell and like all right actually and factually they didn't pretend that's just perfect cell right and so you have the you have these tough characters you've spent this time with and their shit and they're going this is really bad and we're all gonna die yamcha can't beat freezer yamcha but yet by the way yamcha in this scenario is gone hey 12 year old defeat the strongest thing ever no we know you can't we actually it's literally on paper you won't so but do it or else millions of people will die and and not just die like get eaten like when i say get eaten i'm talking like it's not quite at berserk but the start of the arc is literally monsters eating children on on camera like it is
Starting point is 01:12:20 it is bad it is it is like you've you've seen what hunter hunter looks like it's like one piece almost it's like yay bright colors and then it's like hand me that baby to eat and then throw its chicken wing style bones onto the pile it is nightmarish it's really out of place and i finally understand why when people look at jump force and look at the trailer for jump force when they see like gone do the thing they go that's weird and inappropriate and that is not a super saiyan thing to do that is bad so that is a weird power up to include that there okay okay um and it has the most ridiculous i mean they did it so it's out there it's a function he and it's gone but he's bigger and strong and he's old and he looks taller and buffer it is and
Starting point is 01:13:25 that's that you know like if you from the outside looking in this is what looks to be a power up so what it should be is that you it what it should be in the game is regardless of whether or not you win the match the other person wins the match okay yeah sure like it's it's that bad okay and there's all sorts of goofy shit like the arc is like really impressive like it's i understand now why people are always like i was told by some people just skip everything and just get to chimera and and i can see why people said because there's a lot of crazy shit it has the most aggressive anime time stop ever because the whole arc builds up to the attack on the boss so how many of that hundred and some odd episodes is chimera and 80 ish maybe 70 ish i might be etc but it's it's
Starting point is 01:14:13 like almost half it's half it's half might even be more than half okay so most of that is build up to hey we got to kill the guy and then there is a hit countdown hey we're gonna jump through the thing and we're gonna attack everybody 10 9 8 bubble zero 23 up 23 minute episode of the first 10 seconds yeah not even joking yeah the first 10 seconds of them jumping into the fight is an entire episode and it goes to every character and goes all right this is what they were thinking as they ran next to a staircase this is what this person was thinking as they ran next to a staircase etc and then it flashes back and goes two minutes before this this is what happened above the location this is what this person was doing over there that sounds nauseating it is crazy and there are
Starting point is 01:15:12 that they all split up because of course they do and they end up going through like an entire season of game of thrones level of like location hopping inside one building where it's like what was this octopus man doing for five episodes and it's riveting because it's a weird octopus man who has to okay shoot a wolf in the face so all like all of this works that it works amazingly well okay the only thing that I can say that is a negative to it is that some of those else little side like as they all split up some of those stories are weaker than others and the one that you really care about happens all the way at the end because of course it does and all the way at the end is like a year of broadcast like it like it's it's 40 in like what
Starting point is 01:16:10 hey what's gone doing is basically that my question right what what happens it's 30 to 40 in as you follow everyone around and gone and what's what's gone doing no wait wait literally telling the viewer to wait we haven't done animated night um it has one it has the best how do I put this it has the best you didn't win I have ever seen in anything just a like a good you didn't win the most spiteful cruel refusal of one's defeat ever to me the the pinnacle of that was the final case and Miles Miles Miles Edgeworth investigations yeah talk around that final guy that was just like you didn't win no you're you won no because really because here it's congratulations you actually completely won but fuck you though but fuck you uh it also does something really so
Starting point is 01:17:22 you know those though that problem with anime let's take Naruto anime doesn't have any problems where a rochimaru killed all those people but then they give them a pass because uh yeah in fact every single evil person had a sad childhood right the characters you're dealing with are literally weeks old because they're weird ant monsters and the the first thing they did was eat or kill hundreds of children like right on screen like not implied like you see it so as bad as bad gets and no they didn't have a sad childhood in fact they're all happy go lucky yeah eat the god what is it what's the line hey eat the kids brains the brains are more tasty right and then over the course of this extraordinarily long arc the characters change
Starting point is 01:18:17 and grow and they become more human and you get to see more personalities their personality and you empathize with them a little bit right up until the point where it's like yeah but this person killed half a million people the day before this arc started like so they're gonna get it and people in the situation are not the viewer and go yeah okay yeah sure you might be having emotions here this person ate eight tens of thousands of people like it doesn't matter it doesn't it fuck you can't roll that back so yeah come here and great a plus a plus plus anime thing and aside from that the series ends very quickly afterwards like there's a 10 episode wrap up which of note is only one thing and i will again use Naruto as an example because it's
Starting point is 01:19:12 perfect you know i was asking is a piece of shit no and just gets reintegrated into fucking society for no reason uh actually i i don't know the details around how or why well they just reintegrated but i know that he shows up right and he never he never gets it he never gets the comeuppance that he so richly deserves maybe he does and then there's something i don't know but i know that he gets off in his lives so let's make it a little more vague you know that character in that show that you fucking hate you hate every part of the character you despise them you think they are a bad person like in in fiction and you also dislike everything they represent about the show you don't be really satisfying if the author knew that and had a actual scene in which hundreds of people
Starting point is 01:19:57 in an auditorium literally point at them that's pretty good and go i hate you you're a bad person you're a bad character we're gonna champion some guy because he doesn't like you and that's it straight up like 140 plus episodes of buildup of hey i think this person's a piece of shit and so does everyone in the entire world apparently going you're a piece of shit you are the worst person here shame on you for like a while too it's like when certain wrestlers are trying to get themselves over and they're like man i sure hate that john sena am i right everyone be like yeah we hate him too we're gonna champion you now and that's almost that's kind of how the series ends with a character that's been built up and built up and built up and they're just a bad person oh
Starting point is 01:20:54 okay well yeah yeah yeah yeah and they're just a bad person now i know what you're talking about everyone just goes yeah they're just a bad person okay they suck so that's how that goes yeah they they're just a shitty person okay that's there's no big reveal there's no big reason they just suck and aside from that that last arc at the very end is kind of weak it's based on a monkey's paw the probably the most vicious monkey's paw ever hey matt you get everything you want on your monkey's paw nice but the person who uses the monkey's paw next has to pay some kind of price in equivalency to what you asked for you mean like they have to give up something okay let me try hey you asked for a sandwich right okay the next person has to give a fingernail that's not so bad
Starting point is 01:21:50 right no you asked for a million dollars the next person has to give their spine okay but is the monkey's paw passed down to someone i don't like or is it just a random person gets it it's a person but i don't have any say in who no you don't okay that's what i meant okay and in addition if you fail to give your spine you and x amount of people that you know will just explode on the spot seems a little much yeah it's a bad monkey's paw it sucks why would you pick it up cuz are you told this before you even make wishes in fact yes you are okay so these are the dragon balls these this is the this is the worst dragon ball ever because it sucks okay and the only problem with that is that the wishing bullshit is added immediately after a world threat that it could
Starting point is 01:22:48 have solved you could have gone to the the the wishing thing and gone hey kill all the chimera ants and it would have happened like that so it kind of robs that a little bit but aside from that great yeah a plus that being said my original complaint about hunter hunter which is gone looks like fucking shit with that fucking green shirt on remains they knew to take the give them a wife beater for chimera ants and he looks fine he looks like a normal character and then for the like the last episode they give him that fucking shirt back and he looks like an asshole people demanded it back they missed it that could be the only reason so speaking of thing would you rather things and or drift off that
Starting point is 01:23:40 anime actually does both it and like the gone story is over like it is done okay and right before that happens they go hey by the way all the stuff has just happened this is just the smallest part of like oh we could go to the other dimension or essentially right and that becomes hey if you want to go to the other dimension go go we go it's like uh gurren lagan's like has a very good ending but it could have drifted off it could have gone in a bunch of different places they didn't do it yeah so having said everything you just did and now me being able to infer as much as I have from it yeah would you still say go read this thing absolutely without any question yeah okay I now have context for the hilarious images that are drawn that look like are drawn by a child
Starting point is 01:24:34 which are the end of chimera ants are just falling apart because the author is like dying at the time and yeah I can see it if he was overrun with ants and filth while writing that arc I can see how he would have gotten really sick like really sick can you see how a man would build a youtube channel on the empire of assault from our comments so I'm gonna look back I'm gonna that's the real question I'm gonna travel back in time to somebody who has watched chimera ant and why and very much enjoyed it and woolly it was you that created it right it was you that created the eyepatch wolf going hunter hunter is the worst I hate that show it's so terrible raised him from the Lazarus pits everyone who likes that is stupid and I can totally understand
Starting point is 01:25:26 like the spite of like no but you don't know no but you don't know it is very much a show that that hits it's like the the original anime annotation was very bad the new one is very good however it hits its stride it it goes from pretty good to excellent to genre defining even right but it hits its stride over like a long period of time and if you're not like signing up for that yeah sure but when you're at the end and you're at the parts that are the best that this type of genre can be and you look at woolly going I'm so bad I can totally understand it and you well no and you know me I need to be so clear I never saw that old anime yeah my 100 percent refusal was always based off of gone's design sucking shit and for most of the series
Starting point is 01:26:35 gone's design sucks shit and then when you hit greed island he takes the shirt off and wears a wife beater for nearly the entire rest of the fucking series because the author someone told him someone fucking told him dude it looks so bad because his arms are too long and the cuffs of his of his sleeves hit the bottom of his shorts and make him look like a weird freak azoid it's awful he sucks I patch wolf justified yeah it's like a cooker for my sponsors let's do that this week the podcast is sponsored by Casper mattresses cozy warm dependable I wish I had a Casper mattress yesterday because I wish I had one right now no no the reason why the podcast delayed till two today it's because Matt and I both woke up and went need more could use a big
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Starting point is 01:30:14 finish the uh we had another sponsor oh i'm sorry it makes it it makes it really tricky i did none oh my goodness it makes it really tricky my bad uh the podcast is also sponsored this week by uh star talk all stars why is this in a world filled with fake news flat earthers and conspiracy theorists what is a thinking person like you supposed to do think like a skeptic of course on last week's episode of star talk all stars neuroscientist host heather burlin phd and her comic host aria sheffir he's great uh investigate the importance of skepticism and the power of evidence-based thinking to help us separate fact from fiction heather and aria have joined are joined in studio by guests uh cara santa maria and dr steven novella two of the hosts of the
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Starting point is 01:31:54 earth i did not she's a damn idiot i didn't know i didn't oh man that shit is hilarious i mean dude like anybody thinks anything at this point like we're at you know like like like you're now able to be like i mean for years i mean for for generations we've been born into such a perfectly isolated cocoon that you don't have contact with real world like i don't know man like you can live in such a bubble of of insular thinking that you can completely think that i live i live on a cube earth yeah that's why that's i mentioned before but aj styles is perspective is a little unique yeah and that daniel bryan's like shut up aj no one cares what you think do you think the world is flat and he's like no no i don't your feet are flat he's like yeah they are but you think the earth
Starting point is 01:32:44 is flat and he's like i don't think the earth is flat but there's something to it of course like what does that mean that means you're embarrassed yes yes it does that's what it means i didn't know about this because i'm talking smack like section and osw views was like i love aj styles but yeah that gets personal it's it's the it's the i've heard it delivered to my face and it's just like i'm not saying that i just have some questions yeah yeah i've got questions and i fucking oof oh look like i'm just listen i'm not all the money yeah i'm not telling you to not vaccinate your kids do you know what happens to the money i just have some questions when it hits the arctic it falls off the edge of the earth no it hits the ice wall idiot i love the ice walls really good
Starting point is 01:33:39 ice walls really good Antarctica is actually just a big ice wall around the flat circular i remember there was like a trailer for for something about flat earth there's and talking about the ice wall and then it just talks to like a guy that looks like a scientist or like a smart dude and he's just like they don't know what's that they hit the wall that's why those explorers got lost and i'm like i i kind of want to i want to deep dive a little bit just like i want to see why this will be the section of the podcast that's cut out as i want to see why like what is the actual enticing thing to somebody who's not a complete moron but just gets bought in on the emotional appeal you know it's your way to fight the system man like i i want to hear
Starting point is 01:34:29 the convincing sell where someone goes yeah the earth is the earth is round i get that but yeah you know what it also doesn't make that set oh yeah it doesn't make sense if if it's flat too but but the ice wall though but it can't just pack and be packaged for what it is because people believe in zeno right you have to actually you put it in the hands of someone that's charismatic and able to like shut down any of your protests or things that you go that doesn't make sense and they go does it and then they have something really they then they fucking deal their way through so and and then you believe them at the end and i kind of want to see that for myself i want to get a better understanding of how this insanity is actually a combination of multiple factors and
Starting point is 01:35:08 i think the biggest factor is that everybody wants to believe that they know a secret yeah other people don't know yeah there's that there's that big big big big feelings on on um i'm there's something bigger happening and i'm the one on the cusp of it i figured it out you know what is i think it's in south park the movie or whatever when everyone goes down to hell and then all the all the various religions are like why are we here like what then what was the one real religion sorry it was Mormons it's like someone want when there's a universal truth yeah someone's like i should believe in this into the opposite just in case it turns out i was right oh it's gonna be so sick when i'm right and i can they're all gonna see when i'm standing on top of the
Starting point is 01:35:57 god damn ice wall with my fucking ice wall flag i'm gonna be the king of the earth i think no i'm never gonna actually go down to the ice wall or make any effort whatsoever but it'd be great when it happens we're looking at probably a combination of two things one the fact that humans are inherently curious we always want to know what the mystery is we have to solve the answer and the fact that you know the saying about you should you turn the light on and there's always a shadow like conspiracy can always retreat into the smallest grain of sand that because we don't know what's under that grain of sand like like that mystery that makes us like as good as we are at everything else in life is also that little bug that's gonna make you fucking continue to put the
Starting point is 01:36:37 unexplainable in spaces that it couldn't fit in when i was in high school i was so deep in an alien conspiracy sure i was like so yeah it's an appealing place to go the the governments of the world are all hiding yeah aliens everywhere and if you're if you want and then i turn 20 like you'll never you'll never zoom out of your own thought process and and and see that you actually enjoy thinking this way it was fun you know but but no one's gonna admit but it was a fun little adventure that i could have for me but they won't admit that right their own little adventure like they'll take it as dead serious and just say like no this is what's actually happening without zooming out and going you just and you enjoy being in this place right and then you combine that with another thing which
Starting point is 01:37:21 is the actual possibility that like there's no rhyme or reason to any and all of this we're hurtling through space yeah we're on a fucking spinning rock that's when that happened and there's no purpose whatsoever i went no grand concepts i went you're just here and then you're not i went and that's too scary i went from so we needed we have to contain it somehow i i went from joyful alien conspiracy to ecstatic crippling nihilism which is like like oh wow the inevitable heat death of the universe is the most horrific thing i can imagine but instead well instead of because the problem is you have that thought and then instead of trying to find value in the things that you have that are here that are temporary and beautiful you instead give into this fear and try to find
Starting point is 01:38:14 an explanation that has no bearing in reality whatsoever or evidence for it because you you crave an explanation files at the most impressionable age i could possibly watch the x files i'm like 14 yeah you know so and now it's like eh there's probably not government alien conspiracies but that x fileness is so in the back of my brain that if it was ever to be revealed like without any question the government's yeah i know aliens all the time like we've all been i'll be the first one to be like called it even if i because that it's back there it's a variant of like i am far far back i'm very anti-ghost yeah i i'm very anti-haunted i'm so there right i i believe that that is the dumbest thing ever and ghost hunting shit is hilarious but i'll still say you know
Starting point is 01:39:09 if any place is going to be haunted it would be this fucking place sure sure i watch a movie about this real life haunted uh insane asylum that's been abandoned in south korea i believe that place is haunted but i don't believe in ghosts and hauntings but that place that's the one though i mean there's certain examples where i'm like that has to be by the law of averages yeah like you listen to enough interviews with people that do these shows and it becomes painfully obvious at a point that like none of them are actually like they they believe the words and they believe what they're doing and none of them are in on it but they're simply like casted to go and do a ghost hunting show yeah and then everyone else on the staff goes and rattles some boxes and fucking
Starting point is 01:40:01 bangs a pipe and then the person who's hosting is not in on that so they have genuine reactions but the rest of the crew is hello and that's all it is so they can be honest in an interview and say i don't know what that noise was i don't know what i saw right but the rent but everyone else making the show is like oh yeah yeah for those shows there's two camps there's people that are like yeah this is bullshit i'm making this for money right yeah but i think if you do that long enough you start to be like there's probably something to this but after a while i was like no i saw this or i saw that but i was a non-believer then there's the people that are like i saw some weird fucking shit in that weird like shack i was in once and i made some type of like a flyer and i found other
Starting point is 01:40:46 people that also got fooled by stupid shit that's fucking crazy and then we'll have a group and we will want to be the ones that find the conclusive evidence like you're saying it's curiosity then you can find those people believe in their truth that that's much you can't take my true and then you can ask that person because they found you under the truck yes come on red that's just another form of it yeah if i if my truth is that there is a skinless war widow who died in that house in world war two that is my truth you can't take that away in conclusion not a conclusion in conclusion damn it ghosts are real it's all it's they're all over in conclusion it's all scary but will you lie down and perish like a dog yeah totally will you yeah fucking depending
Starting point is 01:41:40 on how scary the thing that you are you trust the chemicals perishing like a dog seems okay or do you simply acknowledge that it is what it is and try to find something i don't know this kingdom heart shit is getting inside it's getting inside real but it's literally the vulva dog yes yes no it's face the complete worthless can face the fact that it's meaningless and then and then create meaning it's so simple but instead you're like i'm gonna fucking believe in an ice wall because i got nothing going on and i need to find a reason i'm gonna i'm gonna fucking make but a balloon to float up as high as i can oh man and fucking put my life on the line and not crash and die and go oh yeah i saw the curvature of the earth no man you saw the ice wall even though the the guy who did the red
Starting point is 01:42:27 bull fucking thing that went up that high he didn't see the curvature of the earth the things that we saw those photos and whatnot were just the goddamn uh uh fucking fish eye like you can't make your own fucking rocket to see that shit you know they're going to yeah and they're gonna see that it's really been flat flat surrounded by an ice wall you know what the craziest thing about the ice wall thing i don't know if you saw the whole picture matt is yeah but it's a flat earth inside an ice wall on a spherical ice earth because that's how it makes the gravity stuff makes sense and that's how you got a shoe i'm just planetary in there to make it work i'm just salty that they picked kubrick and not like michael bay to be the one who filmed the moon landing you know yeah that'd be
Starting point is 01:43:16 so many more explosions and some type of nationality that's making a big to do either be an asian or black there's always going to be one okay okay movie that's pointed or screaming can we get we okay here we go i'm workshopping it yeah uh uh videos of the moon landing as directed by other directors oh right and that's one small step for man and doves fly out from behind the lunar module and then and then the rocket and coming up a guy gets on top of the rocket and starts like like avoiding meteors and the fucking astronaut has two guns and he puts them on his chest and he crosses and kisses each one yeah and they have fucking they have he has a crucifix on over the goddamn fucking astronaut suit that's a good one if anyone can think up any more during the remainder
Starting point is 01:44:09 of this podcast never say who it is but just be self-assured that if you just describe of okay so there's a guy that's about to like put in uh the flag into the uh moon but you can't see it because there's just so many lens flares coming off all of the other planets and light sources so we don't know what happened you know uh yeah well i want to see david lynch films the moon landing it's just a picture of the moon for 17 hours it's a picture of the moon that zooms in for 20 minutes to the the bottom and there's neil and glenn and they stare at each other and then it zooms in on the hole where the flag is going to go then it shows you a picture of the flag and then it shows you like a bumblebee in arizona yeah getting eaten by a bird that's that's
Starting point is 01:45:02 that's the one that's that's what makes god damn it uh the flag goes into the moon and then beach boys music starts playing and we zoom in on neil armstrong's foot for a while yeah we zoom we get a real real close tied up on his foot and then which is weird because he's not wearing the spacesuit around the foot it's just the raw foot and then and then out of nowhere he gets shot in the head yeah okay uh uh they're about to uh zoom up to the moon in the rocket and they play the music fly me to the moon yeah and and the background is all cd and and all the astronauts have these buff man bodies but huge tits at the same time that's slow motion and it's really dark and and and okay okay and and and neil armstrong he's got
Starting point is 01:45:58 the flag in his head and he's floating through the air yeah and he's planting it and he's like bam and when he slams it in a huge shockwave comes off the flagpole and shoots off the surface and there's allegories to christ yeah all over that's the best one that's the best one yep oh man we should get in the news we've we've been faffing about i'm just getting to faffing about no faffing faffing yeah big news big stories but our top story this week can't wait this is my favorite news story of today the bootleg verse
Starting point is 01:46:50 see i said that before i saw it but i'm still right so it's a good thing like cast of any season twos is good or the whole thing together is as good as it is because it's like if this was announced out of the blue with like no credit to it i'd be like that sounds like it's gonna be horseshit the castlevania netflix creator reveals devil may cry animated series it will be the next netflix anime based on the japanese video game that you like so uh who said this last adi shankar you talked about watching the devil may cry actual anime i've never watched it i felt nothing yeah i said that i watched it that shit is terrible so uh two things come to mind one obviously castlevania being as awesome as it was gives hope that this is going to be also be treated great
Starting point is 01:47:40 and also the comments that he has made about berserk have also made people very very confident because he basically shat on the new berserk and went man i wish i got the ability to do berserk and do it someone give me the rights to that and i'll do it to the original art because that needs to be brought back the thing with castlevania is that it's not too far from berserk in its tone it's really not and its violence levels like there's just a white fucking wipeouts in castlevania the thing to keep in mind of course again is that this is not the writer this is not ellis this is not you know i mean it's the showrunner so it doesn't mean that the content creation talent is going into this in the exact same way it's true it just means the same person at the
Starting point is 01:48:24 helm of the production is what gathers the group of individuals yes do it and if you're able to do that well once very well then like that's at least okay well i gather you're going to get a good enough team to do it a second time around because you saw the value so runners driving around looking at artists and writers on the street and going hey you look good get in yes and and that is that is ultimately the best hope is that you have enough you're a good enough showrunner that you know how to build a good team yeah you know the showrunner for walking dead season one was frank darabomb then they got rid of him and then all the other seasons of walking dead happened that's correct matt was telling a true story just now and boy it depresses me
Starting point is 01:49:08 so this is the best shot we have at devil may cry getting you know what i like about the piece of arts that's being used for this shot yeah it's classic daunte grunged up with the dmc devil may cry pendant and some eye shadow with the five like a van motel yeah what is this image from i don't know but it's him but it's a it's a that's the producer that's adi shankar i'm pretty sure oh really okay good because he amalgamized all the good parts got you into an interesting looking daunte young daunte clearly ah so it's just him cosplaying got it got it well it must be recent because that's the fucking that's a good that's the new logo that's a good picture to use hey the guy who loves devil may cry and made the castlevania here's him as daunte his own daunte
Starting point is 01:49:56 his own unique daunte so i'm super looking forward to that what would you his name is daunte oh would you talk about that i don't care what is there to talk about i mean i tweeted it and that's all there is to say really uh check out willis twitter go scroll until you find out yeah i decided to talk about dmc devil may cry a little bit this weekend oh i had a good time it was fun okay oh so apparently that's in the credits yeah that's where that's from so we'll get to talk about oh yeah we'll get there so would you want like a show that's just like here's devil may cry one and then that's it or would you want some cool amalgamated new version of devil may cry that takes like like how this image i want no dmc three uh i want yeah i want it chronological and i want
Starting point is 01:50:43 it to be done the same way that um remember how udon handles street fighter yes like that so you're like we have the story we know what the full thing is let's make it happen in a chronological way and build up to the to the present yeah the last thing is the street fighter two tournament the one thing that we know about build up to the present that'll be good that'll be good um yeah i mean fuck like if this comes out in the same way though where it's like yeah four episodes oh that does great let's give it another more uh that'll be interesting but yeah please do establish it get a good writer take your time with it but it's devil may cry though so it's yeah yeah yeah it just no just make it like i don't know i haven't watched the other one yeah it's pizza time yeah who
Starting point is 01:51:29 crazy pizza man okay so you know what i'll give you a five sentence anime review of the other dmc anime well uh daunte is depressed and eats ice cream all day a little girl hangs out with them that he has to protect for some reason they go on increase they go on increasingly banal adventures in which every time daunte has to fight a demon he literally jumps into a different room or behind a sheer backdrop or some shit so they don't have to animate the fight scene then they get to the end and the big bad demon comes out and trish comes out she's like oh i'll help you fight him and then the fucking shot because it's in a big open field they just cut away every time they would actually do something there is there is like i think daunte swings his sword on screen like twice
Starting point is 01:52:14 and it sucks because he uses fucking picture of him holding the sword a lot on like the dvd cover it's really bad it's astonishingly fucking i don't think i'm going out on a limb when i say that like devil may cry is a franchise that loses luster the moment it jumps mediums it is primarily a video game it is primarily a video game i have that and i i flipped through it and i wasn't really feeling it but i didn't actually give a serious read i have that too yeah i remember that was terrible um you know it's one of those things where it's like this is popular let's make a thing based on it but it's kind of like this is great because it's a video game it's a video game ass video game yeah so it's always going to lose some luster so hopefully they can they're going to do
Starting point is 01:53:01 it anyway so let's do it to the best of you know the ability to make it not a fucking complete train rack but uh i kind of really feel that yeah as we as we the more you think about it the more you go wait the devil may cry story what yeah you know anyway cool fight scenes can be good i think it has been suggested to me that the director of that dmc anime is the same one who directed the recent berserk anime and all those other idol shows yeah context boy oh boy speaking of oh boy oh boy oh boy fallout 76 huh oh boy so that was one of the other things i spent a good deal the weekend just browsing around looking at fallout 76 yeah going and retweeting shit going oh so oh uh i heard the fault i heard the three nuke event went on that's correct a couple of
Starting point is 01:54:00 things went on but the one i read about was that the first patch is coming 47 gigs i don't know like what it that how can a patch be that big yeah like it doesn't that's like unless it's adding new game worlds occasionally the way they they divide their chunks up is bad it just sounds like they're uploading the game again it does sound like that it sounds like they up they uploaded a beta build for release and now they're uploading the final candidate yeah when you when you're when your patch is basically like the whole the whole fucking thing it's it's that's that's not just the patch that's a that's a fucking it's a build it's a new it's a new complete build so yeah the patch weighs in at 47.258 gigs uh bringing it to 1.02 uh prior to the patch going live uh the game
Starting point is 01:54:53 was 53 gigs i hope you guys don't have data caps people who enjoy this so and so basically 53 goes up 53.04 goes up to 53.23 which means it's the entire game so uh like i'm in a weird position here because i'm not i refuse to play this game but it fascinates me it fascinates me so the Torah the the the notes include uh pacifist mode respawn option seek revet like it's got it's got to be more than just these notes though it yes i assume i love this quote this update will be large compared to what we expect for patches going forward now um fallout 76 by the way there's a video everybody should watch if they're interested about fallout 76 which was that it is called fallout 76 a triple a i think it's called a triple a $60 experience a $60 experience it is a 20-ish
Starting point is 01:55:50 minute video it's one of those cool little video essays where there's no speech it's just clips and it is the e3 presentation of todd howard going this fallout 76 and he will say one sentence and then it will be intercut with about a two or three minutes of people's streams showing the claim that todd howard made to be a malicious lie wait wait todd howard would never lie right he exaggerates god coward um you heard about the todd ray's he didn't even beat jiren for us did you about the todd ray's no what's that you know what a god ray is yeah a todd ray is a god ray that has just been placed randomly with no light source so it just comes up from the floor or through a mountain or they've been given the name todd ray's that's correct
Starting point is 01:56:47 that's pretty you know it's really you know it's kind of charming it might make that might have made people smirk is like during their e3 press conference they were like ha ha ha our games are buggy that's pretty funny yeah how about you make that joke and then actually not do something do the same was was there a quote that was like expect bugs it no the quote was with the beta was please expect spectacular bugs and issues right so i've been staring at this for a while and uh the video that i described goes into a lot of detail probably the most horrific part of that video and it genuinely creeps me out is there is a streamer i don't know his name he's he kind of looks like an alternate reality version of me with brown hair he's got glasses he's balding he's got a
Starting point is 01:57:36 brown beard i'm sure he's quite good he seems charming but he's talking about like oh i wouldn't be able to have you know done that quest because it's so busted you know because uh you know this broke and that luckily there was this nice lady there to help me and he's talking to a stream you know he does the thing where he's got the big camera and then the person that he's describing goes oh hey cool no no problem and he goes what wait can you hear me what because the game doesn't have push to talk if you have a microphone hooked up you're just on all the time so everyone was on all the time all the time okay and it doesn't tell you and there's nothing on the screen to tell you that you're broadcasting sound so everyone heard everything yeah so i'm thinking what if what
Starting point is 01:58:24 if you were i had played that and ordered a pizza and we're ordered yeah and we ordered pizza to our house yep yeah it's fucking nightmarish no that's horrible and on top of that like it is and jim sterling put out a video on this and the consensus not just from his video it's like but that's the games come out fucked up the game was shut down at the time that's fucking crazy the the the the game came out and it's fucked up it's sorry but Bethesda games come out fucked up right this game is two Bethesda games how Bethesda games are to everyone else's game but they're not it's only it's only these it's only fall out it's only skyrim like orders of magnitude games that are fine yes it's the ones that they actually work Bethesda games yes it is astonishingly fucked
Starting point is 01:59:12 up triple i it is probably the most fucked up like triple i release i can think of right now like this year at least easy no no question every single part of the game appears to be broken and so like it's more fucked up than like no man's sky easy yeah it's way like i mean what was the other one back then dungeon siege right or not dungeon siege um what the fuck was it called i don't i don't you know you know which one i'm talking about though i'm clawing at you know i'm like somewhat grasping it yeah what game was fucked up that mobile oh dungeon keeper dungeon keeper well that that that wasn't that was micro transactions to shit this game just it just fucking doesn't work and design what like there are pro there are like security issues with the
Starting point is 02:00:09 game your ip is not protected or encrypted at all at all in any way on consoles no anywhere so anyone can just take your ip from in session spoof it and kick you off the server but on on on consoles you're running off of uh either xbox live or psn servers okay well no though yes though at that level it becomes encrypted but on pc you can just you can remotely kick people off the server by spoofing the shit everything's just plain text because it's this fucking bullshit engine that is being like horribly it's like they took the skin off all four and are trying to stretch it over a big freaking online thing and every part of it is is broken or bad well woof woof woof have you seen how vats works at matt you're familiar with vats right yeah you know how vats
Starting point is 02:01:03 works in that game it's actually in real time yeah and it's things don't slow down and it's a shitty jerky auto aim that randomly changes the percentiles the other bit i heard was that um um inventory was too small for for all the little whatever baffmo dads you need to collect and stuff i'm sure so there's a whole thing about like they're gonna be up you know there's not a single character in that entire game there's like not quest givers well yeah there's only other people yeah hence that's why the thing said everyone the the ad was like everyone you meet will be another player yeah so and murr but they're like did you know that they put the skyrim dragons in it i didn't know that so the final boss of that game is bat versions of the dragons from skyrim that attack and fight you
Starting point is 02:01:53 like the dragons from skyrim that that so when when todd and the gang talk about how it's their biggest project and how all hands on deck that might be the biggest lie this oh no but they needed people from even skyrim teams to help out on it so maybe he's being true there's no way i hope that this was made with like anything it's just like a fucking minimum effort it's just like a modded fallout four yes basically and it's not like fallout four came out a few months ago came out like two years ago like and you look at this this is such a disaster that it kills my interest in like elder scrolls six because they've already said by the way we're gonna use the same engine going forward for fallout for elder scrolls and starfield and it's like the engine that was falling
Starting point is 02:02:44 apart a couple games ago do they just not want to use unreal four just do they just hate it so if you build the more you build on top of a given platform the more expensive it is to like switch off of that would you commit it so look at telltale i have actually dug pretty deep on this and there's a lot of reasons number one is that the engine that they use allows for really easy override so they all have an override folder and anything you put in there replaces its equivalent in the file this means that it's super easy to mod it's trivial easy to mod which is important for Bethesda games the problem is is that that also that modularity or whatever makes the game kind of inherently unstable right well yeah luckily the modders will help fix that instability
Starting point is 02:03:36 because is that what it is they're like well just modders will fix it for us so there are bugs in fallout 76 that are in fallout 4 that mods fixed but were never patched but now those mods don't work with fallout 76 so the bugs are just bad that was an era of steam actually that i i don't want to say it's gone but i feel like there was a time frame in which bad pc ports would just happen and then it was like mod community will handle it yeah fuck it right was that like 2014 maybe dark souls one was the yeah you know i feel like that around that time frame it was a pretty rough fucking time to just be like yeah slap a pc point if i remember correctly like fall three doesn't run properly on fucking windows 10 unless you mod it
Starting point is 02:04:32 like yeah and so it didn't fall out three just not work on ps3 what was the one that was just it would just not function on ps3 it was skyrim it was skyrim skyrim fall apart after a certain amount of time and so all they've also spent all this time like you said working on this engine and everybody at the studio knows how to work on this engine but like the engine has so many structural problems that like if anybody who's played a significant amount of these games and i mean multiple of them there are tons of bugs that happen in every version of the engine where you pick up an item off the table and every single item in the room falls one inch because because it has to reset the physics in the room shit like the way the animation sliding works or the end
Starting point is 02:05:21 like it is a mess and it reminds me i was talking to elie about this a plague of gripes for those you don't know it reminds me almost of telltale i think elie actually pointed this out i mean i i yeah that's why i mentioned it it's like at a point it was like why are you still sticking with this engine and now we know it's like the reason they could not afford anything else the reason is we have a winning formula and all we have to do is just keep making these games despite the despite our engine becoming a trash fire the the time to make that switch was walking dead season two yeah and that fucking came and went and as we saw the graph go down where would the money for an engine switch have come from you know the uh it really sucks when it's like okay we're stacking
Starting point is 02:06:03 and building and building and building on this thing that is barely running we've now moved an entire generation forward and we're still juggling plates on this fucking unicycle like like i fall out four has some of the fucking bugs from like as far back as like fall three like in just the way the stuff worked and fall out three came out and it was fucked up but it wasn't that fucked up like it was it was all it was okay it was a fucked up big rpg better than this fall out four came out and fall out four was fucked up yeah yeah like it was and then now this comes out and this is as fucked up as it has ever been for anyone nobody else gets away with this new vegas is also pretty mess so new vegas was messed oh god i did i i must have told you guys why new
Starting point is 02:06:48 vegas is so fucked up they moved up the release date on obsidian by months so that it would release super fucked up and drive the metacritic down so they wouldn't have to pay their bonuses but you don't think this is going to go down in history it's just like that random ass side game that came out sometime i don't think this game is going to go down in history i think will he mean just like when you look back on the franchise this is some type of weird this is a game experiment so you mean you think this will be the weird one and then the next one will be kind of fucked up but like normal i don't think people are still like catching feelings over nausea so i think they just look at it and call it nausea so yeah uh matt you've dabbled in these games right i would be fall out
Starting point is 02:07:27 three well you you haven't really never and and and and like i the the cursory interest i have actually i've qa'd um some of three the versions of three okay a little little bit just like the the beginning parts and whatnot um but the the interest i have actually is for fall out one and two yeah if i ever go back those have nothing to do with tesla if i ever go back it'll be to play right those games are great those are the ones i want to be biggest obviously but um and skyrim's a good game like for all for all the shit it's a good game but um so to the people who have played a bunch of these there's only so many of these types of releases that you can tolerate without getting super fucking pissed off and frustrated like i am so so i look back on
Starting point is 02:08:17 jeff gershman's review of fallout 4 and there's something that he pointed out there that was really salient where the game was fucked up enough that he would go up to items quest items like you know the quest marker points to it and you gotta interact with it yeah and at a certain point he would become anxious because he would be worried that he would click on it and it would not function and that would taint the whole fucking game because you kept talking to people expecting their conversations to break the fear that it might right your shit up and every one of these games that you play that's super fucked up which is you playing it at release increases that anxiety so when uh elder scroll six comes out i don't even i'm not even excited to fucking play it at
Starting point is 02:09:01 launch anymore because like oh great i can't wait to be super fucking pissed off when the dark brotherhood quest line just breaks two quests in are they also are these billion hour games because i've always yes feeling that they are yes yeah okay they absolutely are yeah they can be feels like it um and like there's only so much overall tolerance for this especially after like witcher and fucking even the newest the newer assassin's creeds and because they're the longest assassin's creeds have ever been right just these big ass like they're not skyrims but they're getting closer yeah and like witcher one and two and three all released in various states have kind of fucked up but like a full order of magnitude than even the fixed version
Starting point is 02:09:52 of skyrim by by Bethesda and it sucks it absolutely sucks and it would suck a lot less if todd what didn't come out every year and piss on you and tell you that ah it's goofy bugs ah well it's like well this year he's gonna have a lot more stage time yes he will oh god i forgot about this because sony's not gonna be there nintendo is still being there technically so sony's skipping e3 2019 we have no games uh effectively just again being really honest about it right they're just like we don't want to come out and prematurely build up something we can't well let me get the exact quote yeah because it was one of those pretty straight up like yeah we don't have shit to show you so we're not going to pretend type of quotes um blah blah blah
Starting point is 02:10:47 where was it playstation fans mean the world to us it's not the top one no it's not the top one it's the one where they basically just say like we don't have enough so this okay well they don't have enough yeah they don't have enough sony's skipping 2019 because they don't have enough might as well just tell us right now that the playstation 5 is coming out in 2020 they mentioned that um holiday 2020 okay the quote the quote is not in this article it's in another article but uh it was they basically mentioned days gone and um uh another game might have been ghost asuka shima but they're like the two yeah and they were just like we could come out and show you some of where those are at but ultimately fuck it well because it wouldn't be it wouldn't
Starting point is 02:11:31 be like enough i don't particularly care for days gone but it's like i think ghost asus asus jima like can be shown like nintendo had an only three where all they showed was zelda and it was pretty good i'm considering that was zelda i you know i i feel like we've talked about this a couple versions of this conversation like a season that just ends there's no resolution no it's not i think i think this is one of those things where it's like it's no there's no winning here because they either show something and we go that's a bad show or they choose not to and then you go why aren't you showing anything hasn't stopped them from having bad shows before it certainly has it so if they haven't had a bad show in a long time but still if someone looks at it and goes hey i'm looking
Starting point is 02:12:16 at the the paper on the desk right now and it looks like this is gonna be a bad show why don't we just not do it i i can't say i don't respect that i feel like they they've been doing like big fancy like big super packed shows the past couple years and if they held one this year it would be like the old style like the feel for feel for time look we got like or like one of the more recent microsoft ones where it's like we're so proud to be had working with all these people out one of the old style hey investors we're still busy hey look it's gonna be look how many we saw big hype hype hype numbers hype tbtv the last three i think we kind of agreed that microsoft had a more entertaining show even though that they didn't have that many first party things
Starting point is 02:13:01 but they're still third parties making games for these systems what's the problem with just showing a lot of exclusive trailers or third party games well they're gonna so that's the thing about this is that like this means sony's not showing up but everyone making games for sony's platform is going to be there of course and you're still going to be seeing third party stuff i just think when you're sony you can have a show that is less about your exclusive stuff because you don't have that much that's fine i understand that but taking that time and all the eyeballs that are watching your show to highlight games that they might have strong ties with certain publishers i don't think there's anything wrong with that so you're not wrong however that's not
Starting point is 02:13:38 the way it would be interpreted if they just went up and ran a reel of smaller games yeah no one's going to feel that would be PlayStation has no room exactly you know where's your big ball clunkers my sony has been killing it on the first party front they've always had like three or four big ass first party games to show and now they just fucking won't they're they could show fucking an hour of Final Fantasy 7 remake footage no and they're still not an hour of that game made they could show an hour of that footage and there'll still be uh at the end of it it's fucked up that they don't even mention that game in the press release they're like yeah that's not coming out so they could get to the end of that conference and someone will go no ps5
Starting point is 02:14:19 horseshit sony fails yeah you know what i mean like it you know so they're like yeah look forward to psx i guess that we cancelled they cancelled that oh well okay well nothing they cancelled the one that's supposed to be happening like a couple weeks yeah but psx 2019 is what i mean maybe they said they cancelled that mate well they cancelled this one and they haven't talked about the next one so that might be just dead forever i am a cancelled this one that just was it is going to supposedly happen it's because they said we have nothing to show yeah i remember but i'm assuming 2019 they're gonna goddamn announce the fucking PlayStation 5 for the next pxx i'm psx if they're not being at e3 then yeah we've seen Nintendo do
Starting point is 02:14:58 this and i see this is sony doing the same thing where they're like we want to control our own event instead of and time it when we make sense for us as opposed to having to have they could show Death Stranding trailer but no one's gonna understand it again so they're like e3 is a trade show that's another fucking game that doesn't even have a release date why not show that apparently there's a possibility that's that was like a rumor that Death Stranding is gonna come up at the next uh whatever event uh the the date for Death Stranding is coming up is vgs or something like that where they're like yeah there's whispers of that but if they don't if they say we don't have anything interesting to show you i'm gonna believe that i'm not gonna say no i don't believe you
Starting point is 02:15:35 right and i am so good i'm gonna also gonna assume that they would rather control their own marketing message and go let's have our own psx event while nintendo has their own schedule directs and they get away from e3 in general it's it's kind of like yeah like companies are slowly realizing because remember this that's not even sony like every couple of years someone has dropped out like we're not even having to press conference like for sure who didn't have one last year was like ea someone was like yeah we're not one or two years ago nintendo was out you know yeah but like it's people like companies are kind of seeing like we're gonna get lost in the shuffle if we keep spending all the time and energy and and planning takes to show on the show why don't we have our
Starting point is 02:16:14 own fucking show and everyone's looking at us our calendar does not line up with e3 therefore that's that and um you know i don't see anything wrong with that necessarily because e3 still has its use for smaller companies and for third party companies and for everyone else that's not a console manufacturer you know to get together and show off the what they've got i kind of realized that a lot of big third party games are very interesting they're coming out all way before e3 like re2 remake kingdom hearts 3 double may cry february february january capcom yakuza is coming out capcom fucking loves the first quarter they do they have fucking love ever since re4 yeah they they fucking love february is fucking fighting game february and they they will drop shit in february
Starting point is 02:17:00 and march all the time except for ultimate but you gotta get it up before april because april's used the deadline for fiscal yeah well march 31st the end of the fiscal quarter yeah and it's like monster hunter came out and fucking this spring of last year and re2 and double may cry five seven did as well are gonna come out in spring of this like spring is is capcom's yeah capcom has that season it's ours it's it's just like it's just like delaying a game when you're like not ready you know it's like fucking they've decided no we're gonna end up delaying it so fuck it make you know use this create your own schedule well you know what they like for re2 you know they've said that like they're they've been done since like august right i didn't they have been almost
Starting point is 02:17:47 completely done everything from now until that game's release is polish perfect which is months and months and months because they want that game to be immaculate excellent it's great news yes yes it is uh but it's like yeah they're real comfy with that fucking spring slot so yeah there's that uh and then little bits little fun bits little fun little fun bits in there dangly bits fun dangly bits oh yeah um this one's a this one's a quicky but they just announced a new super robot wars game yeah super robot wars t coming to ps4 and switch the switch version will be uncensored but the ps4 one will be tons of censored that's a different news story but sony cracking down on the anime titties in their games for some reason and as
Starting point is 02:18:38 usual there's always lots of tendu what's so don't there's always lots of fun and seeing like one how does the new game look in terms of like to look like all the other uh this the anime no the animation's gotten a lot better so there's a trailer for it the animation quality is as has stepped the fuck up there's a lot there's a lot going on um it's very very pretty but the big fun is who what's the lineup gonna be what's the big what's the who smash right everyone has some everyone is here and uh we have some weird shit coming in like gun x sword for those of you who are fans of dan and remember fucking gun x sword gun x sword is getting in there uh and let me see of course there's a bunch of superhuman samurai savage squad i saw uh no or a battler
Starting point is 02:19:28 dumbbine cowboy bebop that's what i'm trying to find here okay so yeah we got gun x sword over here i'm going through the trailer just i don't want to override in there uh let's see if i can there we go the fucking bebop spike spiegel is in super robot wars that's ridiculous yeah he joins the fucking party it's not a robot it's a it's a ship it's a it's a ship it's a gunship it's not a robot it's a gunship there's lots of non-robots called super robot wars there's lots of not there's other things dude uh i want to say immediately after this the fucking arcadia shows up because harlock is here and he's and he's flying his goddamn dreadnought right captain harlock gets gets in as well it's fucking sick so um what's the deal with anime anime is here and yes so you're
Starting point is 02:20:25 getting you're getting gun x sword you're getting uh cowboy bebop uh you're getting as far as new franchises go that is um arcadia of my youth uh endless orbit ssx met yeah re-earth um and of course all the classics and fun stuff newbie tom's and just one like you know how we own so on and so forth but i always in gow guy guy like the final boss is just a guy that's your size yeah you're you get newbie great if just dude from bastard is just it's just him i mean so the the og games there's an og game where you're using the pilots that are fighting on foot and zengar zone bolt is kind of doing a bit of that where he's got his giant sword but uh i hear you i feel you just man yeah but yes the the sheebie the the the s super deformed
Starting point is 02:21:19 robot sprites are looking nicer than they ever have so yay super robot oris um the uncensored version only on switch uh the other woolly story of some light shafts will cover the robot nipples yeah and there'll be lots of fades to white the other woolly story of the week that uh i guess you were in the news again well a little bit of a slow news week not gonna lie but for those of you who are still paying attention there's some Kirby DLC coming out again wave three yes so this is the most free magalore taranza susie a new area new playable characters they just keep throwing new characters and he sucks the universe the official the official art has Kirby with a goddamn scar on his face because shit's getting real yeah he's got from battle's path he's got the
Starting point is 02:22:12 he's got the himura kenshin scar yeah exactly um and what's interesting uh for those that care is alongside all these fun playable characters there's a little tease at the end that looks like the guts the jambastion mages as well are also good oh yeah the jambastion mages so the playable character list fuck yeah is is yeah i know i don't even know it's that's it's wild it's super hype what are they actually from they're from they're the bad guys from star allies oh you mean like they're the villains the villains from star allies i never like played that far yeah yeah they're there so it looks like they're gonna be playable too that's everyone is here everyone is here like we're looking at this list and it's just like everything Kirby everyone
Starting point is 02:23:03 that's ever been a friend or foe in any of the games is now here and is playable it'd be great is like there's a playable logo of the fox box yeah when he used to be on there like we're missing a couple things here in their dark mind doesn't you know what i mean but like i gotta have dark but so much more is here spherical in shape to be there basically more or less anyone practical and non-practical is here so uh magalore who fucking does nothing but sit on his ass all day is still is here so yeah Kirby DLC is free and it's happening and if they keep it coming star allies continues to be fucking amazing god that must game must have sold like not sold a lot but made a lot of profit for them to be just like more for DLC i think they just had a tail end blend
Starting point is 02:23:48 you know but what i mean is like if the game did not make a profit then they probably have stopped it yeah fair enough that's a decent observation i agree or it just it doesn't take a lot of man hours to just take a spherical like little character in the game yeah oh sorry it's like the model we just have to make the model yeah use the existing thing uh now over to the the mat section on the mat section of the pocket we've got some travestrikes again use when you think of grasshopper or nomer heroes do you think of the word season pass sure do i don't know why this game has a season pass guess what that was a lie i just lied turns out nobody else can figure out why it has a season pass either but travestrikes again is getting a physical edition and a season
Starting point is 02:24:34 pass it's gonna have new stages and playable characters in this season pass but why would a game that's a top-down arcade style going into other games arcadey thing need a season pass because they just add more stuff i don't know you just i think it's like for lack of a better term let's just call it a season pass would it be more like makes sense to you if it just says it's gonna have dlc yeah like kirby uh better season pass i guess but kirby doesn't have dlc it has free lc did you see the box art that's that's a physical edition i've said that before art that they're going to use for it have you seen the full image uh i know there was a piece of key art i believe as japan calls it that's the other week i've said i'll see before in your presence
Starting point is 02:25:17 yeah so there's that weirdness um and the other bit on that was um let it die is having travest gear and travest stuff that's cool added to it as well like they did with killer seven there you go so let it die that's appropriate is getting yeah the travest touchdown do you know what that makes me grossed out a little because it just looks like the bad travest model from the ps3 version which looked always not great to me because they just added shiny shaders on it and just called it a day i mean the funny part is that this outfit just looks like it's shit that you'd put on in the game anyway yeah you've got it one of his at his moe shirts so his leather jacket collar popped and rip jeans but he still has got a weird gas mask on so yeah because let it die
Starting point is 02:26:04 i'm super i've never been more happy to be wrong where i was like man let it die there's just no advertising it's just bomb super i remember thinking that let it die was the most appropriate title for a game ever because because lots of websites would just be so happy like can't wait for this to fail i'm gonna make a banger of the headline with this one let it die no dies at release let it die is left to die by its publisher and it's like it's a million copies within like a month or two so you think that you think that season pass is going to be mostly stages and characters for what for well it says it is oh sorry okay and the article it says it will be an additional playable character and more stages uh cool let it die the game that was pretty all right
Starting point is 02:26:56 it's not my favorite grasshopper game but i'm glad it exists it's fine because it lets you cross promote your other grasshopper yeah cool uh and then we've got some dead or alive six news new fighter nico i see your gameplay stuff i did not but just as a design we're looking at this character nico which looks like soma from castlevania yeah you're right actually wow and i was like oh the blue hair instead of the white hair wow look at that soma uh i don't mind it i think so i think it's a cool character design scientist girl and shoots blasts of energy at you cool i'm down i'm down with the outfit except fuck those heels you're insane nah whatever stop it stop giving heels to fighters you're crazy stop it well there'll be a million costumes you're a
Starting point is 02:27:45 fighter uh there will be um and then there's the koko koko koro koko is back heart la mariposa is back also rocking some heels a little bit more sensible with their fly like kind of like flats there but and then she and then yes la mariposa is back doesn't have heels no wrestling boots son i'm super glad they're like not hiding from these characters that are super unpopular in japan i think lisa slash mariposa was like the lowest rated woman in doa history in terms of japan's popularity with her and she wasn't added to dead or alive extreme whatever because of it okay but let's be real like doa girls are kind of just create a character swap them swap the wig but i'm just glad that they added her despite that yeah because they were like well let's swap swap the
Starting point is 02:28:37 wig swap the skin and eye color and then just make mary rose too and just figure out how much they want to like wail when you use the fucking we remote to blow air at them set their age very important to set their age not sure if that's still a thing anymore you know how street fighter characters you can set their language individually yeah you should be able to set individual ages for everyone in dead or alive no i think it just stops at an age like you can't go lower than that it just yeah 18 to 99 yeah yeah 18 to 99 that's it yeah add decimal places but it's her niko and then there's um what uh Travis touchdown what is the age of this character is it question mark i don't know i wait scroll down only i think i actually gave her stats somewhere niko yeah i
Starting point is 02:29:26 thought i saw that niko's 18 okay of course she is she's from finland she's a lightning technomancer and her second outfit looks like edgworth yeah it does um yeah and so there's that and there was the uh dead or alive extreme three scarlet yeah announced for the switch for the switch it's probably gonna be so dead or alive extreme three on the switch so they added a new girl that's not in doa six but is in this one i quote big i think the quote is actually like a big titted snow princess yes i mean they these games always have like those non fighter girls that show up right yeah like so they're the and the other one from the first day away game has a little bit of a scandal because the ps4 is not gonna have the the it's not it is not going to have a hd rumble
Starting point is 02:30:23 no for the the well it can't right but it also will not allow you to use the items that uh soften the girl's skin yeah which allows them to bounce more easily and it will also not have the uh fan that you can blow at their skirts that they hate so all this oh nintendo only features this game is 2018 as fuck man 2019 excuse me like early i don't i don't get it i i talked about this on stream yesterday but like sony fucking put out the vita and everything that came out on the fucking vita they put out conception that and fucking monster mon peace the doa game that was on there had the touchpad where if you rub the touchpad et cetera fill in the blank monster mon peace yes jack your vita off it's the most it's never been anything but like and all those fuck it had
Starting point is 02:31:25 prison girls and shit on it right and they barred uh what's it called super seducer from even being released on the platform and that's way less of a thing like this this feels like one job position changed yeah and somebody went we gotta get that fucking filth off so i guess i guess you're you're going into the sony censorship story i don't know if i care enough to call it a sony that's a story i just think it's i think it's like i don't listen i don't care you're all freak but it's weird i'd like to see an an answer as to why uh because they sure didn't use to give a shit do you think it could be the obvious occam's razor that is the times but then why is that not seem like a likely explanation not when nintendo doesn't care
Starting point is 02:32:15 well ten is the most family friendly motherfuckers ever yeah but but it's a company company basis kagura game exclusively on the switch where all you do is rub the girls the policy changes from company to company obviously you know i'm sure if certain if certain other countries were in the hardware game fucking i don't know i don't see anything that changes about the times in regards to your creepy pornography yeah it's it's evermore your creepy foreign biography whenever someone whenever the question is why would something that used to be fine now be a problem it seems weirdly inconsistent here's my thought process is the answer is the times here's my question i'm not asking that okay i'm asking why sony of all people if this was the whole industry that would be one
Starting point is 02:33:04 thing but i'm asking why sony change not well the industry the industry has a policy that is the esrb as far as back as it goes but none of this stuff violates right but but but but content policy is determined on a company to company basis so it wouldn't go any further than sony if they decided eternally that's what that's why i want to know why the sony like sony should make a press release or someone should do a quote that explains why sony is doing want to see shon laden get up on a god damn stage and say here at sony we hate anime titties and we don't want y'all to play the with your anime so you just you want you want the press release that officially says the times and press release for i want to i want to answer because i'm just guessing but i think that's the
Starting point is 02:33:57 likely reason based on occum's razor well i think the likely reason why nintendo sony doesn't say this because if they straight up say it they're like people will now buy products on competing system because no not just that you just shut up they won't know no matter how bad the times are you're gonna still there'd still be a huge demand for your creepy porno games yes but here's the other problem with making a statement it's then a statement is almost like precedent in the supreme court because now everyone gets the point back at it and go but what about the other game that had what is the what in the second paragraph what is the item the gold fan and the softening gel because you need to put the gel on the girl to soften the girl yeah so then you can fan her down
Starting point is 02:34:44 with the gold fan yeah always softening gel available now at your local pharmacy okay let me let me head on over to your farmer pre i feel like i'm not excuse me you're dwayne reed i feel like i'm not getting the my point across i'm not like yeah probably the times right but why now specifically not like you know what i mean you you don't want because you can figure out why what you're really asking is i want the event you because i'm saying you know why but you're you mean what was the catalyst yes what was the no what was the reason because the reason's always gonna be we here at sony are less than comfortable with our creepy porno games we used to be cool with it what but now we're not cool with it what then the answer is off the mouse trap ball why are you no
Starting point is 02:35:32 longer cool with the creepy porno because it's not like there was some sort of massive lawsuit where some mom looked at it they cared ps4 and says what are all these bouncing fucking titties and softening gel you asshole oh it's sony they have money let me sue them right you know and how come sony how come you are not cool with the creepy porno for the the adults but nintendo's cool with the creepy porno for the kids yeah because i mean the answer to why there's so you're asking a different why as in like what was it as opposed to like well what was it conceptually why the why because i mean obviously the why can go on back and back forever the why why now because we live in a puritanical society that believes in espousing its values enforcing the month other people in a falsely
Starting point is 02:36:22 puritanical society where the deep seedy underbelly is still present and has a marketplace however on the surface the japanese society has to accept the idea of puritanism even though there is a there's an accepted degree of deviancy within that same framework you are going so fucking high end out of your own fucking ass you're so wrong so is japan never gave a shit never because way back in the day there was a decision that the church decided that sex was bad but violence was okay and everyone in society developed their culture in such you know what i mean you know but yes i too would like to know if there was a specific job hiring that happened or change of mind in some place or thing that led to a snowball rolling down the mountain do you remember that time where someone
Starting point is 02:37:22 said some company said that during the time the ps2 sony had mandated we don't want 2d games i do know that and that was it looked like it made our systems look old and that was traced back to like a single asshole yeah that was one guy who did all of that shit right so on this i want to hear i want somebody to get up on a stage and say jim from accounting son found his titty game on the vita and his wife was like what the fuck and he's like no it's for work and then he came to work and said we can't have anime titties on the game anymore and that's more about you wanting someone to be like accountable almost no i just want to know the specific okay because it's probably hilarious okay okay see even says however both the fucking pervert gel and the fan or whatever was in the
Starting point is 02:38:15 previous ps4 and vita versions of the game so clear this is a new directive someone someone went to the playstation someone went to tecmo and said not only you have to take these out you have to take out your creepy titty gel remove it and then tecmo coi probably said huh why and then sony had to go we don't do creepy titty gel here anymore yeah i doubt you'll ever see a framework publicly coming out to talk about this type of thing it's easier to just say nothing because no one wants to get on a stage and say hey perverts you'll get your titty gel here at sony because you're gross and and no one also wants to say that it happens on a game by game basis you know on a moment to moment basis and sometimes we let it slide and other times we don't bury your ostrich
Starting point is 02:38:59 head into the perverted sands just don't talk about it why can't we put softening gel in every other game yeah i would have much enjoyed got a war more meanwhile on steam fuck it unless it doesn't break the law i guess which is a weird reversal of their former stance there's a lot worse games that could have softening gel as an available item in the curvy if you put softening gel on curvy that's just sounds fun he would just know that just sounds fun that's that's wholesome that's just a good time that's that's everything you'd love it he's already that fluffy no it's got to be nefarious it's got to be a bad one yeah you know like i want to hear that kazerai got caught in his office jerking it to some weird bullshit and then went
Starting point is 02:39:47 all fucking reverse on it and was like no i hate that i was looking at that for research i was looking at how much i hate it yeah i was just checking to see i still hated it like that guy from that band that one time yeah yeah and you see there was a fly on my crotch so i was hitting it multiple times to get it away i would never do that don't put softening gel in a hat in time don't do it like i look i look at this and this this this story i'm doing air quotes air quotes big air quotes is like endlessly hilarious to me because on the one hand you have the company like just being zero clarity the lack of key yet the lack of communication is what makes it hilarious because you know the reason why they're not talking about it
Starting point is 02:40:35 it's because it makes them look right if they say anything one way or another all the people who are like mad are like no my anime dolls i need to blow the wind at this point i really hope i really really hope you're prepared for continued inconsistency going forward into the future it's not even that prepare yourself for no answers at any point in time the crossplay thing we're for like a year they never said jack shit about it and then eventually they're like this is so embarrassing everyone in the world is screaming at it well you know what i guess we need to start a fucking revolution so if you add titty gel into fortnite fortnite's eventually gonna be like well you can get titty gel in the switch version i don't know why you can't
Starting point is 02:41:22 yeah sony won't do the cross titty gel play you know who has the answers billy what was that fucking game again with the box art with the sausage on it with the fucking what was the what was the game with the xbox and then and then the the the girl eating the sausage and just yeah and it came with the daki makara oh shut up yeah i forget oh what was that game i forget all right research is needed it was it was fucking we had the we had the giant special edition of that and it was just like like how how how embarrassing could you like in what awkward position can you put this out in your living room you could find one so there's an interesting point made by the article that you pulled up to read this from which is actually somewhat more serious which is this is
Starting point is 02:42:11 a push square dot com article and they point out like hey how is this gonna affect the kathryn release on playstation 4 or just dead or alive six in general sure but i say record of agarast war uh i say kathryn because kathryn has a bunch of sexual content but it's thematically appropriate and serious yeah so what they're like are they actually gonna and then it becomes wait because that's the weirdest one the weirdest one is nudity is okay as long as it's not to get your dick hard but as of right now does the full body edition even isn't even announced to come out here because if it did i missed it like i don't know i don't know if they ever got announced that yes it's gonna be localized and brought over here i'm assuming it has i don't know probably
Starting point is 02:43:00 yeah usa okay sure no it just doesn't have a release date other than 2019 like february 14th for japan and everything else doesn't have a date but okay sounds like sony wants to give all of their players softening gel if you know what i'm saying i know what you're saying yeah that softening gel via lack of choice flacid tiddies flacid gel if you go to a sony conference the moisturizer in the bathrooms it kills your dick so that that is if you could go to one yeah they cancelled the you know what they couldn't get the formula right so they cancel just gonna we don't have enough formula to show yeah so you can understand why we're canceling our e3 cancel every hard dick gets canceled this is the cancel them this is the funniest story ever everyone is wrong
Starting point is 02:43:56 i do have to admit i do have a slight amount of respect for the people who are willing to admit they are creepo freak ass perverts that's not even scream from the mountain and die and die on that hill that's not a hill that's not a hill that they're dying on it's two hills together that they're dying on yeah yeah peaks and valleys yeah man these hills stir our heart i wish we could soften them up they were yeah we are not allowed not allowed to farm these titty hills until the gel come in it's like you know i'm going holding the gel back you know when the god hand appear and the floor becomes like faces it's like that but they're not faces it's kind of horrifying and i could i could stay there for a little bit i say as i use my my zarya mouse pad yeah
Starting point is 02:44:47 those are her biceps they sure are let's take some mails and get out of here hey okay if you want to send an email down to us you could send a super best friendcast at gmail.com that's super best friendcast at gmail.com if you want to tell us about what titty games you like yeah yeah i'll i'll listen to those emails yeah sure um hey guys jesse says sort of a correction correction but perry bible fellow perry bible fellowship is making more comics yeah we know this came in the last two weeks ago oh well there you go and uh we said we knew at the time as well corrections are currently i think zero for for 50 i think there's probably one let's try this one
Starting point is 02:45:28 correction uh greetings geriatric gaudy guys i'm the gaudy one gaudy i'd like to point out that uh some of matt's comments on the sabrina show uh while i'm not watching it and i know this for a fact matt is old a good way of seeing how old you guys are uh young versus old is a stance is with a stance you take on a classic disney movie premise like the little mermaid or pinocchio you know the story is disney placed on a copyrighted to not use the real ip's um you're i'm sorry i don't know why you wrote this this way but anyway uh if you take do we need to correct his email it looks like we might need to correct the writing of it is very just not to the point but it's okay if you take the young whipper snapper protagonist you are wrong uh but if you think he is foolish and
Starting point is 02:46:17 gonna get himself hurt like the father figure warns then congrats you're old i see what he's saying the way matt snaps at sabrina shows that he's old let it sink in you deserve it okay well no because people in the show like say to her you can't get everything like sabrina is weird and like i get what this guy's saying but sabrina is weird and that i've never seen a show call out the main character as hard as this especially not an american made drama thing like i i've that's why i even brought it up because i'm like it's so weird i've seen this other type of behavior and usually i don't mind it but i almost feel they wrote sabrina to be this way so that the character can grow and then that's why i said like towards the end of the show i was like oh i'm glad she
Starting point is 02:47:02 learned and i was just kind of like commenting on how that's pretty unique usually if a character is never written to be this annoying because they back it off because they don't want people to dislike the main character that sounds like the perspective of an old man i guess yelling at a cloud sure that cloud named sabrina the teenage cloud got it all i know is that the original sitcom sabrina didn't have this issue it's true i didn't you know why because you weren't old then i guess uh you don't need to be young or old to notice bad writing that's correct so bailey says they're super big cowards we went on stream old an old indiana jones game uh the emperor's tomb was released for pc a bunch of star wars episode one pod racer came out too
Starting point is 02:47:51 old indiana jones jones yeah lucas starts is just dumping him on steam out of nowhere weird i remember being really fun as a kid and quite enjoyed it but i never did finish it however as a later level had something in it that scared me too much to ever want to pick it up again the level of question is the underwater one and while i was fine with that i wasn't fine with the creature that lurked inside sharks i just watched jaws at the time as a kid and developed a phobia of them i was carried out of multiple games as a kid mario 64 in the eels yes i was just gonna say that's mine fear in the first couple appearances of alba uh resident evil remakes in the first zombie duke nukem and the xenomorphs and the thing video game and creatures inside it
Starting point is 02:48:29 got it uh has there ever been a game that you carried out of finishing due to a certain enemy or creature that scared you too much well i didn't carry it out of finishing mar 64 but it sure gave me lots to think about i didn't uh the only game i've carried it out on is pt like just abject well that's finish it that's and then page had to beat it for me because i'm a bitch um crimson heads and resident evil remake did stop me from playing it for months oh really and then i went back to it like later that year and then finished i had no idea what it was doing anymore because it's been so long but yeah i got creeped out by the spiders and the scent back in the day those were yeah those were a thing but i can't think of any game where i've stopped playing
Starting point is 02:49:09 it completely yeah i can't think about that yeah oh uh well i mean again it didn't stop me a bit redeads and ocarina of time is always kind of the go to they're pretty bad like i don't want to play more right now where i am in the game those redeads worked because the rest of the game had nothing like it yeah that's why they work hey listen there's a fucking flesh eater over there whoa and the noises and the freezing and the and the mashing to get out of it just you like it's it only works when you don't know what's coming and the whole game led you up to nothing uh remotely close to that moment i have uh uh breaking news i completely forgot i don't know if you guys talked about last week did you see the pt remake the which one because the fan thing some some guy just
Starting point is 02:49:52 fucking yeah ripped out every asset and just completely remained okay there have been multiple versions of this okay this is a recent one this came out like 10 days ago and a guy just ripped every asset from pt all of it and just ported it to the pc for free and just said here you go ever pt there you go and it's out there now and it's out there forever so pt is saved mm-hmm i want to say there were at least two other projects i don't know if they came out but i definitely we talked about them as stories yeah we didn't talk about this one last week though this was like a new development i saw the headline about it and i was like what okay literally like the scare of pt going away made uh spurned a lot of people to jump in their unreal hallway editors
Starting point is 02:50:34 yeah and he did it the right way too he he appeared and said i ported pt to the pc here it is and then disappeared yeah it's a fucking good job um yes fucking on me they're bad yo guys uh matt says when i was in high school there's a rumor going around that the band yellow card was going to appear and perform a free concert in the auditorium during the school day oh my god in 2008 when uh yellow arc was still relevant the rumor went on saying that it was an excuse to get all the students away so that drug sniffing dogs would go through everyone oh my god this is the best oh man but what if someone didn't like yellow card it was pretty ridiculous but it still spread like wildfire uh what are some of the dumbest rumors you heard in school
Starting point is 02:51:24 i remember nothing i want to repeat on this podcast i remember a dumb one that was just like hey you know that school across the street that's like the nun school and we hate all those kids and like constantly getting to fights with them and like it's a huge rival thing you know virtual academy across the street that's correct yeah they're they're merging with us and then all their students are going to be in our student body cross and we're like that's insane that'll never happen why would you send cobras against the panthers meow and just unleash them into what will surely be a bloody war that's correct and then they fucking fuse the schools and then all those kids joined then it was a bloody war it was a bloody war where it was your life consumed
Starting point is 02:52:05 by the troubles as a result it was just a but it was actually like it was in the middle of like great eight or so and everyone was just like uh you weird kids and they're like oh fuck you guys from bass high man because they were the smaller school and they were like they had the the like the weirder kids and they had again the nuns and stuff but they were also the more extreme personality types oh yeah you know whereas we were like the larger more american style school i remember when we were in uh when we were when i was in high school no it was elementary school we got a batch of homeschooled kids for whatever reason some law must have changed and we just got like five or six homeschool kids there was one kid daniel for whatever reason we were great six
Starting point is 02:52:46 might be the strongest person i've ever seen in my life like we all had he lifted a hundred pounds over his head yes actually because that hundred pounds was kyle okay and he fucked he fucking chucked kyle like he was a football he was a really nice guy but we'd all be rough housing and it'd be like dany you have to not work we're children you are in the body of a man and we will all die if you throw us like that um i was super smart too in the playground in my elementary school there's this giant tree right behind the um the baseball like dugout thing and kid said that a kid died at the foot of that tree like bashed his head against the the the tree over and over again and just died there so you everyone would give it a wide berth just never
Starting point is 02:53:37 kind of going there and then a marriage was doomed because we had like a fake playground marriage and of course i was not really invited as why would you invite me to this but uh they did it in front of the tree and everyone said your marriage is doomed because it's where the ghost kid is and i don't know what happened with them but i'm assuming i'm more successful than that marriage is that probably dad the year before i got to high school uh there was that day when there was a rumor going around that a bunch of kids found a dead hobo in the bushes yeah out on the field and everyone's like that's fucking crazy whatever and then in the sixth period at the end of the day the speakers came on and the vice principal got on and said we just want to let everybody know
Starting point is 02:54:25 not to be alarmed by the police disturbance outside when you leave today and that this occurrence has nothing to do with our school and no one involved was associated with our school whatsoever because there was quite literally a fucking hobo body so you're walking out and you see a dachi and the rest of the cops hang around the telephone pole and they're like hey kids you get out of here yeah yeah yeah quite literally a dead hobo body right in our schoolyard uh but that was that yeah yeah that actually happened so um the things with my school were all real i remember there was a rumor that in my elementary school that our music teacher was insane and the rumor came from you know he fucking punched gabe in the face right like what we're in elementary school
Starting point is 02:55:11 that's ridiculous and then sure enough it's super real he actually lost his temper and like punched one of the kids in the face and somehow kept his job ten years powerful ten years is fucking now to be fair gabe was a fucking shit oh absolutely like i thought i looked back on this as an adult and go fuck i wish i could have punched that kid in the fucking mouth but you're not supposed to do that and there's tons of cell phone videos nowadays of like teachers getting swung at where they can't do anything bad yeah the teachers going swing right swing far like a swing fart uh but but that's uh the kids just running up to teachers and giving them tornado gdts and they can't really do anything yeah all they can do is sell all yeah but the few that
Starting point is 02:56:01 decide to break kayfabe and break a child like no one really crowns that hard at them they kind of go like yeah we get it you're still fired but we get it back in tna jeff jarrett got a gimmick where he's tapping out kids he's going to like like karate like classes for little kids and his gimmick was he just puts them in figure fours and he's like yeah i know i can beat me it's a fucking awesome game it's super good really good follow my camera around yeah yeah strong their legs are too tiny it can't put them in these complicated holes damn it yeah it's figure four and it's pretty much it shouldn't have fought me that's what you got that's what happens to you when you've messed with killers mr jarrett you came to my karate class
Starting point is 02:56:52 like i hope that he get like that's all that that bit ends with him running from the parents and getting in a vehicle of some kind and driving away from the parents and he hides behind the corner of the building and when the dad comes around he hits him with a fake guitar yeah there you go and then he sings i hate rap god what the fuck is that quote from jr like he broke like 10 thousand it's not from jr but some some other guy it's like he broke 10 000 guitars and never drew a single dime fuck off jim we got one coming in from uh ramirez says amen their lovable scrounge rules and that one guy a few years ago i was these people like to do the vague thing so that we can figure out ourselves being vague so we all make a face you're getting vegged uh am i the guy
Starting point is 02:57:39 a few years ago i was attending an exhibit on games and technologically at the technological museum in stockholm cool it was an awesome exhibit filled with so many functioning arcade cabinets and consoles all the way back from pong up to contemporary times all of it freely interactive and as it rightfully should be i got to a large number of the classic titles including missile command mappy space invaders and the original machines and i'd always considered the knowledge of these games um my knowledge of these games to be high but the one thing that floored me was seeing asteroids on its original hardware i imagine most people who listen to this podcast know what asteroids is but the one thing that doesn't come across are ma on modern monitors
Starting point is 02:58:17 is how bright the thing is oh yeah whenever i fired a shot on the screen it wasn't just shooting bullets i was shooting shining stars it surprised me and it made playing the real thing have much a much greater impact it's another thing about this medium that i love that such an old game can still find ways to surprise you other than uh that technically imperfect emulation of software are there any nuances from the few last generations of consoles that you think are going to be lost forever on games of the future well the the first hand lines the first thing that i can think of the for i was thinking of scan lines and uh me and liam ran into this when we were doing mario rpg and that the mario rpg on the we and the we you and the switch maybe looks
Starting point is 02:58:57 like shit because that art style was made with the scan lines to darken the image and give it texture a lot of old games look like garbage if they don't have the proper scan lines and crt ban because the art was made with that the 40th anniversary collection of those s and k games that came out like everything but their fighters basically uh that has some of the most like love poured into this uh love poured into the scan line system like there's lots of you know other capcom collections that do a pretty decent job this one had like insane amounts like they really want to even the um the capcom beat them up collection shipped with no scan lines then they patched in a bunch of scan lines because they knew people were like no i need it i needed
Starting point is 02:59:39 bad i fucking love the look of a good scan line i do too depends on the game some games look better with it some games i'm like eh i like the aesthetic i don't know if um like i like how do i put it like i like the aesthetic when i'm looking at a screenshot you know i like like in game as it's going i feel like if you people run those like fancy emulators with the scan line and the shit on like stuff like street fighter 2 yeah the game looks amazing yeah and and and that's what i was gonna get at is that in some cases right like it doesn't work for every game but certain games were made to look better with these uh limitations in place and i think games like metal gear solid needed a blurry crt yeah for it to look as good as it does so you can't see how it really looks
Starting point is 03:00:25 and so what's gonna be lost is any games that use their medium to mask like the flaws as in a way because then the higher resolution and crispness actually take something away that's why scan lines are an option though because i have seen people like on the internet be like i think scan lines are stupid it makes it look ugly and fuzzy like people just didn't grow up with it and i can understand if you didn't see it you'll you're like yeah that i don't get it why would you like that so that makes sense why they're taken like they're always an option but it's like metal gear will if metal gear ever gets released again i'll i guess on the playstation classic it is it's like it's that that that thing's not going to have scan well it's like metal gear on well no
Starting point is 03:01:05 i didn't have scan lines on the metal gear playstation one no but i mean it did on the tv you were playing so metal gear on the ps1 when you played it originally way back in the day the way that the crt and the resolution work together with the way they've done the black textures makes the game look like it has lighting the game doesn't have lighting yeah but it looks like it has lighting because there's a lot of darkness everywhere yes on a good ass modern tv it use you can just see that it's just black textures you can you can just see that it's actually just a pc port even way back when was way crisper than obviously the playstation release was and you could see a lot of that stuff coming through too and it it creates a weird thing where
Starting point is 03:01:47 you're like you're now appreciating these imperfect models and this imperfect textured world for what it is but it doesn't look the way it was trying to sell you yeah when you first played it right and it's it's way further it's not even close it's it's ancient but like try and play fucking marble madness on anything but an original more marble madness car cab it's the worse that game sucks unless you have the trackball it's like though at the end of the day i'd rather play like final fight or some beat them up on the actual arcade that has scan lines then like have a nice clear screen that has like what is essentially fake scan lines have been programmed in like i'd actually rather do that than play what i know it to be is to be fake it's there to
Starting point is 03:02:34 make me feel good the scan lines like if and i mean that like sincerely like if there was a machine right here i would not play the switch version because i like playing i i very much am happy with like third strike online editions visual options i feel it's not perfect because the brightness is a little off but like the scan line and crt filter on that are good quite high quality and look pretty damn close to what it's supposed to look like a lot better than like 15 years ago or every collection had like the worst so that's exactly where i was going is when you push it to the versus calcum origins collection earlier than that earlier kof 94 rebound oh my god the softening filters are the absolute blur filters yes and k ones were the
Starting point is 03:03:17 back when people were like pixels are awful let's hide them let's just blur it up to garbage and it got fucking just it looked like barf sprites i can't it was real bad all of the i've never seen one of those filters that i liked ever i remember back when i downloaded and played mega man x on the z s s in e s which is where i played x the first time and i was like i'm gonna fuck around with these filters oh look at the super eagle filter and the uh two x i filter i'm like oh it makes it a little smoother but it looks like shit yeah yeah like and i was like fucking i don't like but that was but that was that wasn't that was the era that was the age when to convince your friends that no these sprites are still cool though then you'd have to basically
Starting point is 03:04:05 hide your pixels in shame you know pixels were shameful things for a couple years tried to make them uncool yes by itself and then thankfully i came back well people who got jobs were people who grew up playing pixel games and pixel games and the art style continued to be a relevant thing but it's just like at some point pixel games point back and it says like i lived bitch and just i fucking yes but there were kids that you went to school with that bought into it that were fucking shitting on anything that was tommy talarico on on electric playground looked at cvs2 and said these old busted sprites need to go away need to be like tecant you need to get with the times it wasn't just the industry it was like fucking people like him not only that he made sure to shit on the music
Starting point is 03:04:56 i remember a specific review where he didn't make it he didn't make it he's like this cheesy shitty japanese guitars man they need to like get with it you need uh orchestra that's the only way music can be something like there's a lot of electric playground reviews that they scrub from history because they know nowadays they're so embarrassed it reminds me of shit like cliffy b explaining you know the survival horrors is just like publishers they won't do it because those games suck and they'll just trade it back in there's no future for survival there's no future for horror that's awesome i need to say that oh when he ripped off re4 hey we forgot a news article what cliffy b retired from games i thought he did that already yay did it again oh no i i distinctly remember
Starting point is 03:05:42 hearing this like months ago he replied to some guy trolling his shit on twitter and was like man whatever i'm done with games i'm quitting and when he was reached for comment like did you just announce that you were quitting in response to some troll he's like whatever man i'm done that just sounds like a flight of fancy i will quote my friend jim who perfectly summed up my thoughts on cliffy b cliffy it's not your fault you don't know how to make games that people want to play anymore you just saw twitter troll uh created a new account just to bait cliff you won't refund players who stuck with you all and spent money you for you all to keep the to keep up the content uh now all that money is wasted cliffy b says i paid my employees
Starting point is 03:06:30 their 401ks their health care even months after the studio folded so they could care for their families i didn't take a salary for myself for two years i get your sad but god this is the kind of shit this kind of shit is another reason why i'm never making another game i have a follow up to this because a former employee of cliford blazinski i was about to say like that where's the receipts replied to this statement going huh months huh my severance ran out after three weeks these months must be getting longer and longer and cliffy b responds with yeah maybe i exaggerated but i'd like i'd like to think i did the right thing that's not how that works jackass you lied you're wrong go to cliffy's base uh twitter page let me just okay so he has 632 000 followers you'd
Starting point is 03:07:21 think he's like maybe no one will notice if i say this leave it this way it's not like you're an obscure person people are going to notice if you say shit hey maybe i was wrong about how much i paid my employees after i fired them by telling them that they were fired on social media but i'd like to think i did i bet you would like to think you did the right thing you jackass what's coming up what's coming out uh we have we have finished one call the cthulhu we have finished call that's all done man that oh the middle of that game is not super good but the end of it is pretty good there was you know it's i guess that's irrelevant now but an email did come in that was no but from the qa lead on call of cthulhu oh yeah yeah it was some tips for the skill
Starting point is 03:08:15 system and cp and well it didn't seem to really matter yeah that's the main issue with the with the middle of the game is that all the gameplay parts seem to just kind of fall away sorry aswaldo but it's cool that yo hit us up on twitter man i'm curious oh my so that's done and we are of course are uh are wetting our feet in the world of disney mm-hmm uh and deep in there you guys are uh wetting your feet in the world of hats and fedores or lack their oh sorry trilby's or like woolly yeah i told him about the trip so woolly you know the part where daunte slaps the can out of the big fat guy's hand yep i didn't even catch it and i didn't catch it until people tell us they were excited for our reaction and we totally didn't even notice the guy's wearing a giant five on his shirt i didn't
Starting point is 03:09:09 see that and wow daunte slaps the can out of his that's hilarious like uh i i we in the beginning i didn't realize that would that be a thing back then now it's like ha ha there's a don't make cry five but did were people yes noticing this when that game came out yes okay i didn't realize that uh the fucking that line in the intro about pulling the world by the hair yeah because i remember being i remember cringing at that the first time and then i didn't realize they edited it yeah so we just kept talking it's it's just and i was waiting and i was going to react to it and then i had a moment of like wait what i thought so wasn't there something there yeah so me and woolly did not know they edited some lines out they edited the trilogy out okay and they all like the world
Starting point is 03:09:59 is your you know so so in the beginning i said this to you guys you're like oh they added out the fedora i'm like they added that out yes i go what about not a million years and you're like no that's still in i'm like how is that still in if you're that much of a coward that you'd edit out the fucking head yeah how did you not add out the most insulting thing because it's the back down version but you know really back down like you thought about in the beginning in the beginning uh what's certain the girl says uh the world is your bitch moondis and so am i all of you all that's left to do is to grab it by the hair bend over and what what what's the matter like just cut that out they super dead i can't believe it add out i don't know it's so do you know why do you know why
Starting point is 03:10:46 because they knew oh my god oh my god you asshole oh boy they knew people would notice the not in the million years but they kind of thought they get away with edit it's signature it's too signature at this point yeah it's it's the it's the that game's atmosphere yeah so they also i so you we all play devil may cry dmc reboot and we'll get to this in more detail in the lp but you know when virgil does that outrageous fucking thing out of nowhere yeah and it's never addressed they added a couple lines where he explains why he had to do it that's fine and you know what the explanation is well i had to do it man okay so dmc devil may cry continues and never change saura promise me you'll never change
Starting point is 03:11:41 i haven't heard you laugh at that that's uh that continues as well oh man that game's a fucking we have to make sure when we finish agriba to go back to agriba yeah i know someone that was very yes i i i saw that too i'm just thinking about dmc as like this time capsule it's so perfect uh let's see hey woolly what's coming up on woolly versus well um so as you saw this week fighter pd is back it relaunched uh the hd remaster is out so those are gonna be lots of things have been edited and changed yes and well i mean in some episodes you were in a fedora during the recording of all these and now it's sure to take it out edited that fedora right out of the audio you'll you know you'll never hear it rustle again so uh those are gonna be uh dropping when
Starting point is 03:12:35 they're ready you know uh episodes are gonna go and yeah the ones that are no longer available on machinima or whatever will just be no longer available so you know uh that's one of the main things is like hey let's have a working upload of this summer so yeah that'll continue um probably gonna stream uh depending on whether i'm free looks like either tuesday or thursday i'll see um so that will be a thing and uh yeah there'll be the results of the near playthrough too because the results the the the cleanup the cleanup session uh still is going to be coming out as well because that needs to occur and like even though i've hit the the proper credits and whatnot there's a little little bits and pieces and trail ends that needs to be wrapped up so
Starting point is 03:13:31 yeah stay tuned for all of that over at woolly versus and twitch.tv slash woolly ver sus matt what's going on over at matt mcmuscles are you still doing that neko para playthrough no uh what happened with that gave me the idea of put in part one but then back down put in part one is a thing to make people go oh my god are you serious but i only recorded one episode because that's totally the reaction i had where somebody's like hey did you did you see matt changed the thumbnail on his neko para and all i could think of is like what the fuck did you see in that game that made you go all right i didn't even where where i actually stopped i didn't even like i thought it was just like a cringy date like dating sim i didn't even know that there was even
Starting point is 03:14:22 because i watched the first episode of taka and zito's lp of it like a year ago and they started that and i was like oh okay it's just some cringy thing i'm like yeah i'll give that a go and i just stopped where i was like this isn't even i had nothing much to say about this because it just goes on that is the hardest back down and on yeah you planned to back down that was a plan back yeah um but you took up the click though yeah yeah the click down what's what's happening is that i mentioned i played uh some dnd and what i meant by that is that i played dnd tactics for the psp oh my fucking god that i spent a good year and a half testing uh so that'll be a bug report and i mentioned i played killer seven a little bit i can't believe you actually played that dnd psb
Starting point is 03:15:08 i i worked on it i know i know i was like yeah no it's pretty funny but um yeah and also i'll be uploading a video of of that killer seven uh steam version and i have a code to give away for the game as well during this so we'll be on the lookout for that uh all right over at uh fucking what's the name of my channel twitch.tv.agris.bat i'll be streaming a couple times this week i don't know what maybe i i had the random urge to just place it to the dark souls but it could be anything i don't know uh and uh probably later tonight page also gonna be streaming over at twitch.tv slash piece of live probably gonna be ff4 just hassling her about getting yang off the floor this morning right if if you were getting urges off of castlevania i would have assumed
Starting point is 03:15:54 you'd go to bloodborne instead you would think right but but instead i was like because i was i streamed uh dark souls 3 about a year and a half ago maybe and i streamed it for a couple hours and then i don't know if i told you what happened where i was playing online and then i went to summon somebody and the summon person went invisible and then backstabbed me somehow and all my gear exploded and then like they left and i think my game got all fucked up so i was like okay mm-hmm all right great no thanks and that kind of killed that so i kind of want to go back to it and and do it over um after i finished castlevania season two i just backed out on my xbox and i went to the games that are installed and i forgot i installed mirror of fate hd oh yeah
Starting point is 03:16:44 you did oh that has trevor that has alucard why don't i boot that up again not quite it has both named characters so i booted it up and like i was like oh yeah this this opening cut scenes really oh i'm controlling the characters now oh i'm stopping playing right now then because that's how that feels i forgot that it was if that could have been fine with the fact they tried to meld lords of shadow whipping controls into 2d is just like it's just it was a real feels i remember playing the demo just be like oh like right away i think the story of that is really neat in that how it ties into the other games i'll always say the story of that as a rebooted universe is kind of cool but other than that i'm like oh i forgot why i stopped playing this this is
Starting point is 03:17:33 why because i'm playing it so y'all motherfucking see the part five torture dance hell yeah we did i saw a couple variants that i saw wasn't it great the first version that i saw was the one with the fortnite dance music which is what they should have used in the anime the Kirby theme was also yeah that was perfect that was perfect uh i said it on stream but it's kind of insane how they actually noted that this is at meme status they expanded on that enormously they knew how much people love those three panels and the games doing the animation was not doing it justice it wasn't enough because we're like how do you get these moves these three weird poses to link together and they fucking did it in this ridiculous Janet Jackson-esque moment of a full choreography musical
Starting point is 03:18:22 act yeah it's a fucking amazing yeah they they did good that was good well not not just that but they even planned the the episode structure around the dance here it comes because the week gonna happen the week before it ends right before three panels right before yeah exactly it's like you motherfucker they they they 100 exactly that and it's also like the biggest takeaway from the entire part outside of your bad guy power memes yeah is your your dance it's the most iconic thing from all right these guys are fucking gonzo they're like that yes they're bizarre but no these guys are also idiots they're also insane crime children yeah so well the the whole part of that it's like it's actually kind of subtly horrific because he's like scorch your eyeball till you talk to the man
Starting point is 03:19:15 who can't speak yeah like mr chill man nah never chill you will miss the will never chill yeah put that fucking dance in fortnight leave turk alone how about that no it's too late yeah it is turk is fortnight he turk is fortnight but make jojo fortnight yeah and then make the kids all learn to do that fucking crazy dance and put that in there and then have the kids breaking their arms and legs trying to do the query crazy lean into the twist into the i like the idea children hurting themselves trying to jojo yeah i love it i really do and i think this is the future oh you gotta know they're jojo related like no billy don't look it's too late mother i've already injured myself trying to do the torture dance no child your back can't take it you know how it is all right later guys
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