Chainsaw History - The Value of Louis Pasteur

Episode Date: July 16, 2025

It's another baffling dive into 1980s biographies written for children! The podcasting siblings Bambi and Jamie Chambers learn all about RFK Jr.'s ultimate nemesis (i.e. a pioneer of germ theory and v...accine science) when they read The Value of Believing In Yourself: The Story of Louis Pasteur. This time our hero is absent for half the book while we learn all about a stick-wielding German kid named Joey who enjoys tormenting dogs and is gifted with rabies as punishment, before becoming the first person ever cured from the deadly disease. Instead of a single science fact, we instead learn that vaccines are magic and contain miniaturized British soldiers equipped with darkvision and bayonets. And if you want to also achieve success you must clearly wander around in public muttering "I believe I can!" after getting blasted on chemical fumes.Support the show and stay tuned with us on social media and discover more on our website: http://www.chainsawhistory.com

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome everybody to the value of series of chainsaw history. This time I am actually your secondary host Jamie Chambers because we are being led today by my sister baby. Hello. This is the series where she reads children's biographies that we were forced to endure in the 1980s as children. Yep, I'm going to read you a cozy little story. For kids. About vaccines. So who are we doing today? Jamie, I don't know if you know this, but I don't like our current administration. I think it sucks ass.
Starting point is 00:00:45 You don't say. However, I have true and powerful hatred for one man in particular. And that man is fucking RFK Jr. That fucking sleazy, gross, smelly, disgusting motherfucker. I hate him so much. I would ruin his life if I could. So instead of doing that, I'm just going to destroy his fucking values in every way that I can.
Starting point is 00:01:23 So today we're going to talk about Louie Pastor. Louie Pastor. I've heard of him. Yeah. You know, anybody who's had pasteurized milk, something RFK Jr is completely against. Yes. So like already there's an instant connection here even before we get to vaccines. Yep. It's raw milk, baby. That's the way to go. Yep. And again, the pasteurization method for, you know, getting bacteria off of fucking our food. That's only if you believe in germs. Sometimes you believe in swimming in rivers filled with raw sewage. Well, Louis Pasteur is one of the fathers of germ theory. He was one of the people who didn't just have a theory about it, but he was out to prove the existence and he was one of
Starting point is 00:02:12 the people that managed. So should we check out this book cover before we dive in? Oh before we dive in, yeah. So this is the value of believing in yourself, the story of Louis Pasteur, no author on the cover. It's by Spencer Johnson, MD. I'll describe what I'm looking at here for everybody. We see what is presumably Louis Pasteur, which is a weird little cartoonish gnome man wearing a top hat, cartoonishly huge glasses. He's got like a goatee and he's got a red Like a bright red Rudolph level red nose like he must be a raging alcoholic
Starting point is 00:02:52 Based on the redness of his nose from this cover and he's kind of so he's working at a chemistry bench with like beakers and liquids Doing some stuff. So there I mean for I mean, for the record, I mean, look at Louis Pasteur. He was kind of a nerd with the whole... He's not wearing a top hat in this one, but they got the big fucking nose and the bushy facial hair. Yeah. He definitely had a look going. Yeah. I mean, don't get me wrong. I mean, this also makes him look like Mr. Peanut. That is very odd. This is the hero we're going with. Okay, let's do it. In his little striped suit with his little red jacket. So we're going to start out our biography with... Once upon a time.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Once upon a time. The true indicator that we're in for some truth and information. Yup. In far off France, there lived a man named Louis Pasteur. Now and then, this man, who was a doctor of science, would put on his tall black hat and his bright orange coat and walk in the park. I believe I can, I believe I can, I believe I can. He would say to himself as he went along. That's unhinged.
Starting point is 00:04:11 That's an unhinged joke. I have to dress up in my opera clothes to go for a walk and mutter incoherently to myself, like the little toaster that could. Okay, cool. Well, it's like the little train that could. I think I can, I think I can, I think I can. He just walks in. But we don't even know what he's thinking yet. He's just sure that he can because it is the value of believing in yourself. He's
Starting point is 00:04:32 starting strong. What do you think it was that Louis Pasteur believed he could do? I mean, at this point, it could fucking be anything, boys and girls. I can wear the tallest hat in the world. It was something important, so important that Louis Pasteur didn't even notice the other people in the park. I must find the invisible enemy he said. I must find the rabies germs that hide inside of people and make them sick, so sick they die. Yeah meanwhile everybody else is avoiding eye contact. He's like I must find the invisible enemy So he's you see he's sitting on a bench looking, you know disturbed Well, everybody else is living their lives and having fun flying kites and shit
Starting point is 00:05:17 Mm-hmm, and he's he's thinking about the invisible enemy. I must root it out Well, and you can see the little bubble and the invisible enemy. It's a rabies germ. It's a little black and white. It's a little grim thing. Yeah. It's a little grim thing with arms and legs and big sharp teeth. Yeah. Cause rabies germs gotta be scary. Louis sat on a bench and thought about that invisible enemy.
Starting point is 00:05:41 I just know I can do it. He said, still believe in himself. Yep. So everyone thought he was silly and everyone thought he was stupid and the children made fun of him and all of this part of the story is complete horse shit because by the time he invented the rabies vaccine, he was already a- He's pretty hot shit. Yeah, I mean he was pretty hot shit from fucking the get so he was a renowned scientist. So I doubt the people were pointing and laughing while he's having to hype himself up. Yeah, they were like, you'll never do it.
Starting point is 00:06:19 They shouted. No one will find an invisible enemy. What a dumbass they said. Next year, next year, he expect us to wash our hands. Louis Pasteur didn't care what the children thought. He didn't care. Fuck them kids. Fuck them kids. He didn't care what the grownups thought either.
Starting point is 00:06:37 He believed in himself. I know I'm right, he said. I'm sure I can do it. That is also, you know know every lunatic mass murderer also says these things. But you know what a little narcissism is sometimes how things get done. So yeah you don't have just the right dose not not too strong a dose. Yeah well and I mean he's locking himself in a lab hurting no one but himself. Breathing fumes and feeling weird. We don't know exactly what Louis Pasteur is doing.
Starting point is 00:07:12 So because he believed in himself, he kept working. He kept on doing what he thought was right. It was hard work, but Louis Pasteur was happy. He knew that if he found the invisible enemy the rabies germ He could help many sick people to get well again. His hands and knees looking for it in every corner. Where are you rabies germ? Yep, and I mean, okay. This is this is a great let's see We're again in the laboratory with all these liquids and little things and he's holding He's holding a vial in his hand.
Starting point is 00:07:46 He's looking like he's stoned out of his goddamn mind from whatever he is drinking out of that pink vial. Yeah, he is like inhaling the fumes hardcore in this. It's like, this is where I'll find the enemy. I mean, his eyes are very wide and very blue. I must expand my consciousness to find the invisible enemy. Meanwhile there was a mean child that liked to poke a dog.
Starting point is 00:08:11 And this little boy was poking a stick at a poor sick dog in the faraway land called Germany. So this shitty kid's name was Joey. And so he was picking on this dog. And this dog happened to have rabies and because Joey was stupid he got bit. I mean I don't want anybody getting bit by a rabid dog but the kid poking with a stick is higher on the list than others. Exactly I mean they made it where it's like and it was all this kid's fault.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Fuck this kid he deserves every bad thing that's about to happen to him. And it- okay, so, soon Joey could see that the dog was very mad. He had white foam around his mouth. Foam like whipped cream. He tried to bark as if to say, stop it, stop it, but he couldn't bark. Something was wrong. Do you know what was wrong? Of course we know it was wrong. The fucking dog had rabies. Yes, this kid is fucked. That's right. If you could see the rabies germ was making the dog very sick. The dog was so sick and so mad that he would bite at anything, even at the rocks or the trees. Now granted, I have puppies and I can tell you that they don't have to have rabies in order to do that.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Sometimes they're just wild. That's just called being six months old. Yeah, sometimes they're just dogs. If he could, he would surely bite the boy who had poked him with the stick. And you know what? Joey was dumb and he left the gate open. Good job, Joey. So Joey was like, do do do do do and he's going off with this stick feeling pretty good about himself. However,
Starting point is 00:09:48 Dun dun dun, the foamy mouth dog. Yeah, the dog that has an entire face of Barbasol shaving cream. And plus, Oh, we've seen the X-rays, a belly full of rabies. And the dog biting the tree just like our dogs do. Yeah, just like my dogs. But our dogs don't put on the shaving cream first. They do not. Although, if you've ever seen them run around with a little water on their face, after a
Starting point is 00:10:17 few minutes they're just like, but anyway. This poor sick dog was really angry at this point, and fucking Joey left the gate open. So guess what? Yes, it was the gate. The gate in the fence had come open. The mad sick dog could get out. He could run after Joey and bite him.
Starting point is 00:10:36 And that's exactly what he did. Ouch, ouch, cried Joey as the mad sick dog bit him on the arms and legs. And then it happened. The invisible enemy, the rabies shroom that was hiding in the dog, traveled from the dog's foaming mouth into the little boy. Help, help! Joey shouted. Daddy, please help me!
Starting point is 00:10:57 Oh yeah. Joey's right ankle is getting good and chomped by the shaving cream dog. Is that his hat falling off his head? Yeah, I think so. And there's just a, and that's the stick he had poked the dog with which instead of beating the dog Yeah, it's like at least defend yourself. This is Joey, the world's dumbest kid. Joey is just not, maybe he's not smart enough to. Yeah, he's not smart like you boob puppy going so Joey's mustachioed father ran out from the house and he chased the dog away and He put the dog back behind the fence and then he retrieved poor
Starting point is 00:11:36 crying Bloody bleeding Joey well at least the dog didn't maul him to death He can at least have enjoyed the slow miserable uh, miserable death of rabies now. Oh yeah. His, his leg is all jacked up and his mustache, he owed father. And they managed to, who is a hero and very sad dog away, which I'm sure you're in real life, what you do with a rabid dog is you shot it as soon as possible. The funniest thing about this is how modern he almost looks
Starting point is 00:12:04 like he's wearing blue jeans Now it's cutoffs thanks the dog ripping off that one last time about dad. Oh, yeah, dad. He just yeah He just wearing a collared shirt blue jeans and black Shiny shoes. Yeah, he looks out of place in this old timey story, but that's okay So his father picked up Joey. Did you tease that dog? He asked, yes daddy. Yes daddy and I'm sorry whispered Joey.
Starting point is 00:12:34 He was badly hurt and felt very tired. Not as sorry as you're gonna be kid. Yeah. This is bad. It's a bad day. I'll take you home said his father sadly. He was sad because he knew that he knew the terrible thing that had happened to his son I do appreciate that this book on Louis Pasteur
Starting point is 00:12:52 Louis Pasteur has disappeared for the middle of it So we focus on a fuck-off asshole little kid who likes to hit dogs with sticks Yeah, and funny enough that this is the first story so far where we don't have it starting from his beginning of Louis's past, and he does not have an imaginary friend. He can just see the invisible enemy. He's just looking for the invisible enemy. Yeah, he's just this obsessed weirdo talking to himself. Yep.
Starting point is 00:13:20 I believe I can. I believe I can. I believe I can, I believe I can, I believe I can. The little boy now had the invisible enemy, the rabies germs, hiding inside him. Soon, he was not only hurt and tired, he was sick. Everyone who knew Joey was sad. Everyone knew that if a person was bitten by a sick mad dog, that that person would surely die. I mean, that is how that went back in the day.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Yeah. that that person would surely die. I mean, that is how that went back in the day. Yeah, and now you can see little sad Joey in bed with his belly full of rabies germs. Little rabies gremlins. Before long, the sick dog died. Aw, wah wah. Which is cute that they pretend that the sick dog just died because back then. Yeah, no, you would shoot that motherfucker old yeller style.
Starting point is 00:14:07 You old yellered a dog. I mean, I'm somebody who loves dogs, but especially there was no cure and all it can do is be harm and the dog is in misery- It would suffer. And the dog is already suffering. I mean, a mad dog, it means it has brain damage, literally. Yeah, and it will literally attack anything and anyone that comes- And it can drink water.
Starting point is 00:14:24 I mean, putting it down as soon as possible is the kindest thing you can do. Yeah. So, but in this story, we're just going to say that it died. It died mysteriously. Mysteriously just dropped dead. And everyone in Joey's house was sad and quiet. Lead poisoning kids. Then one day there was news.
Starting point is 00:14:43 Joey's mom saw it first and she shouted with joy. Wonderful, wonderful, she cried. How could she think anything was wonderful when her little boy was dying? What do you think she read in the newspaper? You have to see the strange fucking woman. Oh my God, her mouth is like she, it's like a reticulated python that has unhinged its jaws. And her eyes are so wide. I'm assuming she's going to stuff the entire newspaper into her mouth.
Starting point is 00:15:14 She was excited. A doctor of science has found a way to save people like Joey, he said. He says sick people like Joey have invaded by invisible enemy and he has found the enemy and he has also found a way to kill it. Do you know who this man was? No clue. Of course it was Louis Pasteur, the man who believed in himself. He knew he was right and he had done what he had set out to do. So while we're paying attention to Joey he did all the cool science shit. Pretty much. he had set out to do. So while we're paying attention to Joey He did all the cool science shit pretty much great. Good job. Yeah, so we just glossed over
Starting point is 00:15:50 Thanks, Richard Spencer. We didn't want to hear about how he did cool science We want to hear about this kid beat a dog with a stick how he deserves to die But now we've got no He's best or is gonna swoop in like an angel and save him thanks to all the science we didn't get to see. Father, we'll need a carriage said Joey's mother. So you know, I guess they referred to themselves like mother and father the same way Mike Pence does. It's the old fashioned way.
Starting point is 00:16:15 It's old timey and creepy. We must take Joey to Paris to see Dr. Louis Pasteur. Perhaps he can save Joey's life. Does that mean we have to call each other sister and brother for the rest of the show? Yeah. And you know, a kid from Germany would always be named Joey. Yeah. Joey's father ran to find a carriage and he shouted to his able coachman and six fast horses. So we have an entire, like, we have two pages of them just like trying to get him a horse
Starting point is 00:16:47 drunk air ready to go. This is the most worthless page in the book. Desperately needed storytelling. We're really worried about how- This is filler, y'all. We could have learned about science, but no, we get filler. But we needed to know that there were all like a team of six white horses. And they had to hurry, hurry.
Starting point is 00:17:03 But hold on, I gotta interrupt you for a second. Cause you did bring up a good point. They've Americanized this French and German people so much. Shouldn't he be Louis Pasteur? Louis Pasteur. Yeah. Well, and I mean, I'm pronouncing it Louie because I always. Cause that's his fucking name.
Starting point is 00:17:23 But just saying they have American, like everything's so American in this book It's Louis Louis the germ guy who believed in himself. It's great Anyway, sorry, but yeah, I mean it's very funny hurry So they galloped from Paris from Germany to Paris as one does Yep with this poor sick kid Bouncing along. Yeah. I'm sure that was a fun journey. With a gut full of rabies gremlins.
Starting point is 00:17:49 Yep. And his mother is just way too happy. It's like... Is she still doing the wide mouth thing? She is just smiling ear to ear and Joey's father still looks sad because he's carrying his poor sick possibly type So I guess not only does Pastor believe in himself, but Joey's mom really believes in his dad's a little sorry about the mysterious death Fido you see fucking happy. She looks compared to dad. I mean, it's it's wild
Starting point is 00:18:22 So they got him and Louie pastor open the door and he let them in and welcomed them because he's not a dick. Dr. Pasteur said the mother as she smiled a brave smile. We have come a long way to see you. Our little boy was bitten by a mad dog and he's very sick. Can you help us? Perhaps, said Louis Pasteur. I have found a way to kill the invisible enemy.
Starting point is 00:18:46 Those rabies germs that hide inside of sick animals. Perhaps I can kill the ones that are hidden in your little boy. First we just have to cut open his stomach. I have invented a vaccine explained Louis Pasteur. In my vaccine, there are medical soldiers with bright eyes that can see in the dark. They see the invisible enemy inside of Joey. They're armed with flame throwers and fully automatic weapons. My magical soldiers who are very strong that will kill the enemy. So let's explain science. Let's call it magic. Yep, children you don't have to
Starting point is 00:19:20 worry every time we give you a shot there's just magic juice inside filled with little people No, not little people little soldiers little and these are like and these are soldiers. These are British redcoats Yeah, they're kind of fucking they're gonna kill some shit They can see in the dark. Mm-hmm Joey had been put to bed and when he heard Louis Pasteur say this he rose up a little Dr. Pasteur he said, do you mean your magical soldiers will be inside of me? Yes said Louis Pasteur. You want to put yourself inside of me. Mom, I was told to call an adult if somebody ever said that
Starting point is 00:19:59 to me. It's so wild. I'm never going gonna use that line. No and instead of my magical soldier. My magic instead of fucking actually I'm really just appalled by all of this. Oh God. How are you going to do it? Very easily said Louis Pasteur. My magical soldiers can march through long needles into little boys. They march together like a mighty army. It's bigger than he is. So assuming Louis Pasteur is a you know average guy about five foot seven This would be a 15 foot long syringe filled with midget soldiers
Starting point is 00:20:52 It is so bizarre But needles hurts that Joey It was like sometimes he admitted especially when they're 15 feet long It's like that's gonna to fucking suck, dude. And admittedly, to this day, rabies vaccines are multiple injections in the stomach. It's awful. However, rabies vaccines are also one of the few vaccines you can get after infection that will still work.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Yeah. That's why it's a cure. So Joey promised to be brave. And he said that you'll be the very first person to have the rabies vaccine. And he was like, yes, I'll die then. He was like the very, so Joey's father was understandably worried. Yeah, well we're going to do some, the very first person he wondered, will it be dangerous? Are you sure your vaccine will work?
Starting point is 00:21:40 And he was like, I guess so, but he's going to die either way. We might as well try. Is your vaccine safe and effective? Does it cause autism? The magical soldiers are going to march inside your kid and he's going to kill the rabies and that's just how things are going to go. So for the first time ever, magical soldiers were introduced inside a little boy's body. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Although this, even though it's still an awfully long needle, is still at least... At least it's big. Even though it's still... He could hold it in one hand. However, like looking at the size of my hand and looking at that still like an eight inch long syringe. It's still a really big syringe, but it's not a seven foot tall syringe, so there's that. And now it's filled with a red liquid instead of, I guess he had to put the soldiers in the blender first. So they gave him the shot. When the soldiers got inside Joey, they found it was dark.
Starting point is 00:22:34 The magical soldiers peered here and there with their magical eyes. At last they spotted the enemy, dark vision, those rabies germs that had been invisible till now. At first they saw only 12. Can you see them too? They knew that they were really millions of germs inside of Joey. You'll never beat us said the terrible germs. Yes, we will.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Cried the magical soldiers. I love science being explained to children. Yeah. We got, we have a bunch of fucking weird eyeballs in the dark and then the little gremlins laughing at them from the other page Yeah, like you can't get us near me. I personally wouldn't laugh at the dozens of glowing eyes in the dark. Huh? Yeah, they shouldn't have because these shoulders came out and fucking with the shit out of them The battle began the magical soldiers attacked the invisible enemy who thought bravely. It wasn't very comfortable for Joey.
Starting point is 00:23:31 I bet. Would you be comfortable if you had an army of magical soldiers fighting a war inside you? I dare say I wouldn't be comfortable with that. And yes. So yeah, these, these red coats are killing those shit. I mean, this one's like one of them has skewered three rabies gremlins all by himself with his bayonet.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Oh yeah. They are just fucking getting in there. Massacre. And then meanwhile, Joey is, I don't feel so good, but the soldiers in the rabies vaccine killed more and more of the enemy. Joey felt better and better. So they came in there. I mean, these guys are just, they whipped the shit out of them.
Starting point is 00:24:15 And then when at last the enemy had been beaten, Joey felt well. So well, he jumped out of bed and danced around in circles with his mom, his father, and of course, Louis Pasteur They felt like dancing as much as any of them. Hooray. Hooray. They all shouted Because you know after being sick of shit and was dying you just want to get up and do a jig Once your rabies gremlins have been defeated by the magical sea and the dark soldiers What are you gonna do but dance like grandpa Joe? but dance like grandpa Joe. Then Joey thanked Louis Pasteur and rode back home to Germany.
Starting point is 00:24:48 In Joey's village, the people lined the streets. They laughed and waved to Joey. Everyone was so happy that he was alive. Even the yellow sun on the sky seemed happy. Yes. We have a very self-satisfied son staring down on just crowds of people screaming and cheering through the streets as if it was the Macy's Day parade. Even though it's just joey.
Starting point is 00:25:12 It's just joey. Just fucking joey. You didn't die. Hooray. It's like, hey, now here's your stick to go beat another dog with. Yep. The church bells rang and there's a whole fucking page dedicated to this. This is more filler. Yep, just more celebration. The Ewoks are celebrating. Meanwhile, back in France,
Starting point is 00:25:33 where he lived and worked, many people now wanted to talk to Louis Pasteur because they didn't before. They thought he was a weirdo, but they were like, Dr. Pastor, as some of the children, we think you are wonderful. We found the cure for rabies. Yes, I did. Smiled, Louis Pasteur. I am very happy, but do you know what made me feel so good while I was trying to find the cure? We don't know.
Starting point is 00:25:58 Cause you were telling us about fucking Joey. When I was working in my, my laboratory, Dr. Pasteur said, I enjoyed the times when I believed in myself. In those days, I didn't always succeed. But even if I didn't, it always felt good to believe that I could. So now we can see him being deranged in his. So there's a flashback to him working in his lab. Just, there's a piece of paper and then chemistry shit. Yep. It looks less high than before. But still pretty high.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Just wait, this is the last page. As you can see, our story ends happily. And now perhaps you might like to think about yourself. Of course, what you might decide to do with your own life may be different indeed, but whatever you choose to do for yourself, let's hope it will make you happier. Let's see, so I just need to go around. Happier like these, all these happy motherfuckers. Well, we have, let's see, we have a happy family, including a little Joey.
Starting point is 00:27:02 And mustache your dad. We have Louis Pasteur in his, you know, continued best in top hat. We have the magical soldiers with their creepy giant blue eyes, a happy dog brought back from the dead, and even the rabies gremlins are happy. Everybody's happy.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Yes, it's really bizarre. You'd think that the rabies gremlins would not be pleased with this turn of events, but apparently they're cool with it. They love being killed and horribly by magical soldiers. Yup. And let's hope it makes you happier, just like our good friend, Louis Pasteur. So let's see, I need to go into public places and go muttering, I believe I can.
Starting point is 00:27:38 I believe I can. None of them. They all think I'm crazy, but I can. I can do it. We should all go bother our neighbors. Okay. So other than the other, the obvious bullshit, this was one of the more straightforward of these books that we've got. Straightforward, but I will, I gotta say, Spencer Johnson, MD, you are a god-awful storyteller. What the fuck? This book about Louis Pasteur where you just, you show him as this unhinged weirdo, then
Starting point is 00:28:08 you skip away where he's actually doing all of the cool shit and then you jump back and when he actually explains it, it's like, it's magic. Yep. It's just magic. What? No, it's- No, fuck you. This is a doctor who wrote this book, someone who presumably knows how this shit works and could have found
Starting point is 00:28:26 An actual way to give an explanation that children can understand, you know It's like this introduces something in your body that teaches your body how to fight the germs Like it's not you can find a you know a kid friendly way to explain vaccines without that It's magic with the sea in the dark and they have bayonets No, it was upsetting vaccines without, without calling it's magic with the sea in the dark and they have bayonets and shit. No, it was upsetting. Okay. And now we have reached the historical facts. Louis Pasteur, 1822 through 1895.
Starting point is 00:28:58 Nice. Louis Pasteur was born in Dole in the province of Dure France in 1822. As a chemist and later a microbiologist, Pastore did more than any other man of his time to further medical progress. However, because he was not a physician, many medical men of the 1800s jeered at his theories. Yeah, if you understand how what being a medical man in the 1800s meant. Yeah, they just bled you to death. Here, drink some mercury. Yeah, If you understand how, what being a medical man in the 1800s, but yeah, they've just bled you to death here. Drinks of mercury.
Starting point is 00:29:27 Yeah. So it makes you feel better. Being a doctor was mostly just saying you were one back then. Well, yeah. See doctors, if you wanted to have the official term doctor, it meant you went to college where as a physician, you were just literally like they gave you a hacksaw for Yeah, here. For the most part.
Starting point is 00:29:47 So being a doctor was still kind of a cool thing, but yeah, he furthers medical progress. He ignored their scorn because he believed so strongly that bacteria or germs indeed did exist and that he could, and that they cause disease. Germ theory. Germ theory. Instead of like before literally like the predominant theory is called miasma or it was just like this stuff came out of the air. Yeah. Well they also liked the humors. They had to balance the humor in your body. I genuinely, I heard that there's literally like a revival of miasma theory
Starting point is 00:30:23 that happening right now. I'm so appalled. Even though we can like look at a microscope and see the germs and see what it does, it's pretty pretty much I'd say it's settled. It's pretty it's yeah it's it's no longer a theory. It's just yeah well we can see them we can we can see them live we can see them grow we can see them die. Like science like scientifically you language, it's still a theory, but theory doesn't mean it's this thing that maybe you're not true. It's a proven theory. He continued to work in his own way, having faith of himself, and eventually discovered
Starting point is 00:31:00 the cure for a silkworm disease for anthrax and for rabies. So you know, that's pretty fucking cool. He also invented the process that keeps milk from spoiling. It has his name to this very day. Yup, yup. It consisted of heating the milk to 140 degrees Fahrenheit for 30 minutes, then cooling it quickly and keeping it sealed in sterile containers. This process is still used today to keep milk free from germs and it's called pasteurization. And the head of health and human services says you shouldn't drink that shit. You should be getting raw milk, baby. I mean, unless it's like still warm from the cow, I would go, no raw milk.
Starting point is 00:31:44 That's been shipped and just sitting around for a couple not to mention good call everybody not to mention I don't want to drink milk straight from the cows tip thanks oh well when when the raw milk craze did come in real briefly I did see that incredible post that went around on social media where where one guy literally was like here's an idea what if we boil the raw milk for a few minutes to kill the germs? It's like, yeah, new shit. Welcome.
Starting point is 00:32:11 Welcome to the 1800s, dipshit. Welcome, friend. I am so glad you decided to catch up. Yes, please buy, spend three times as much on your milk just so you can boil it at home. It's, it's very funny. Oh, past your married Mary Laurent of Strasburg, whom he loved deeply. She encouraged him always to keep his laboratory first and was also able to
Starting point is 00:32:45 concentrate on his work and did it well. That's, that's a nice spin. My wife encouraged me to leave her completely alone and be a workaholic. Yep. Yeah. Please don't touch me. I mean, it's a very interesting phrase there. When little Joseph Maester was bitten 14 times by a rabid dog and was brought to Louis Pasteur, the scientist hesitated to give the untried rabies vaccine to the boy.
Starting point is 00:33:12 He did so only after two physicians told him that the boy would surely die without the vaccine and that Pasteur might as well just do it. Yeah, fuck it. What's the worst that could happen? Yeah. And you might have the answer. How do you try it unless you try it? might as well just do it. Yeah, fuck it. What's the worst that could happen? Yeah. You might have the answer. How do you try it unless you try it?
Starting point is 00:33:29 Well, there is no such thing as a safe and effective vaccine. Pastor did have the answer, of course, and he saved Joseph Meister's life. Meister later became a gatekeeper at the pastor Institute, stayed there loyal to Louis Pasteur for the rest of his life. So he had a little indentured servant. Every time a dog came by, Joey just whacked it with a stick. Just whacked that dog. He's like, you can bite me all you want. I'm safe now.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Well, Pasteur certainly believed in himself. he remained quiet and humble man until his death in 1895. In his later years, he was always a little amazed and amused by the fuss that people made of him. Once he accepted an invitation to attend the International Medical Meeting in London. When he arrived, a steward asked him to come to the front of the assembly hall. Pastor walked forward and the members rose to their feet and applauded. Pastor seemed somewhat disappointed.
Starting point is 00:34:32 The Prince of Wales must have arrived, he said. I wish we had arrived earlier so we could have gained a better view of him. A humble guy had no clue that everybody loved him and thought he was great. But the chairman of the group only held his hand to pet. No, he said it is you that they are cheering. So that was the bullshit. Let's see what Wikipedia has to say. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Even the little biography pages in the back are always very selective. Yeah, no shit. It literally didn't get to anything. Now I don't remember much about Louis Pasteur directly. I seem to remember there was a couple of weird little social things about him or his marriage was weird. I can't remember. He had some quirks, if I remember correctly. Louis Pasteur was a French chemist, pharmacist, and microbi, and a renowned for his discoveries of the principle of vaccinations, microbial fermentation and pasteurization, the last of which was
Starting point is 00:35:32 named after. Research in chemistry led to an unremarkable breakthrough in understanding and causes and preventions of diseases, which led to the foundations of hygiene, public health, and much of modern medicine. Pascher's work are credited with saving millions of lives through the developments of vaccines for rabies and anthrax. He regarded as one of the founders of modern microbiology and he is honored as the father of bacterial ology.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Bacterial ology? I'm assuming it's the science of bacteria. It's a little bit of a tongue twister. It is a tongue twister. And the father of microbiology. He was born in France. He did a bunch of shit. He was one of the fathers of germ theory of disease. fathers of germ theory of disease. Yeah. He did so much. So much. And I'm kind of, uh, we skipped all of it. We skipped all of it. So you can learn about Joey beating dogs with sticks and how he probably deserved to die, but we saved him anyway. But we got him a really big carriage with a bunch of horses. It's, it's a weird story. It's a weird story. They did it very, it's bizarre. They did it weird like they always do.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Let's not talk about science. Let's just call it magic. I guess they felt like his life was too boring to actually give a full biography. We had to cut away from this guy as often as possible. And then, yeah, I don't get it. I would have made different choices if I had written that book. Yeah, no shit. I mean, even if you wanted to go the rabies angle, there was so many better other choices.
Starting point is 00:37:12 The choices that were made are always bizarre. We didn't get to hear the inner thoughts of an imaginary friend. His imaginary little soldier sitting on his, you can do it. I believe in you. So, but we have reached the end. And here we are. We're going to say goodbye to Louis Pastore and, and, and health in the United States as all of the work he did is being undone. And I am going to pretty much make it my life's work to shit on RFK Jr. as much as humanly possible. And I started with Louis Pasteur.
Starting point is 00:37:49 And there we go. A perfect way to go. But I know that there's even more tasty stuff in the future. Yep. Yep. All right, everybody. Remember to go to chainsawhistory.com to find our full back catalog. Check our other main shows and other bonus show.
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