Chambers of the Occult - EP# 14 Camping Horrors and Outback Hauntings: The Shenandoah National Park Murders and The Humpty Doo Poltergeist

Episode Date: July 25, 2024

In this episode, we delve into two terrifying stories that span across continents and eras, yet both share the unnerving element of the unknown.First with Kai, we uncover the dark tale of the Shenandoah National Park Murders. In May 1996, a serene camping trip in Virginia’s Shenandoah National Park turned into a harrowing nightmare when two experienced hikers, Julianne Williams and Lollie Winans, were found brutally murdered. As we explore the serene beauty of the park set against the heinous crime scene. We delve into the investigation that followed, the suspects, and the lingering questions that continue to haunt those who seek justice for the victims.Next, we travel with Alexis to the remote outskirts of Humpty Doo, Australia, where an ordinary family experienced extraordinary and terrifying poltergeist activity in the 1990s. The Humpty Doo Poltergeist case is one of the most documented and eerie hauntings in Australian history. Objects moving on their own, strange noises, and other inexplicable phenomena plagued the family, drawing the attention of paranormal investigators and media alike. We’ll delve into the firsthand accounts, the attempts to explain the occurrences, and the lasting impact on those who lived through this supernatural ordeal.Additionally, this week, for our bonus story, J will discuss the GGLF, an organization that first appeared in France and soon spread worldwide. This intriguing group’s origins, purpose, and influence will be explored, shedding light on another layer of global mystery and intrigue.Send us a Text Message.

Chambers of the occult may contain content that might not be suitable for all listeners. Listener discretion is advised. Hello. Hi. Welcome back. I'm Alex Bills. I'm Jay. I'm the director of the Hi. Welcome back. I'm Jay. I'm Kai. And we're Champions of the We've been recording for a long time now, actually. I mean, it's kind of how we started our year. No, yeah, we literally started the year with this. Guys, it's almost August.

Yeah. We're like one week away. Yeah. This year has gone by so fast. It really has. It's crazy. fast. It really has. It's actually crazy. To make the best of the rest of the year. Right? Just a few more months. Yeah, literally. We, as soon as August is here, I mean, Halloween's already here, and as soon as Halloween's over, people skip right over Thanksgiving and Christmas

is here, So exactly. And then we're at the end of the year. And then it's already the New Year after that. Yeah. So. Yeah, it always feels like the first half of the year goes really slow. And then the rest just like disappears. Mm-hmm. And I'm okay with that. Yeah. Yeah. The end of the year is usually just so busy.

So time flies. Yeah. I mean, it's holiday after holiday. I forgot how busy last year was. Event after event. Last year was. Literally last year from like September to December was literally a blur.

Like it went by so fast. I don't know how it functioned. We got into the new year and I was like thinking about it and I was like, dude, wait, I was like September and then October happened and all that. And then November and then December was like flashlight. And I was like, oh my God, like it all went by so fast. Yeah. flashlight and I was like oh my god like it all went by so fast yeah so that's time is a construct literally yeah what do we I don't like time it it's it's a thing

there's a thing I was gonna say like there's pros and cons but like there's nothing we can do about it I was gonna say like there's pros and cons but like there's nothing we can do about it You guys don't have do you have your like settings on your phone Jay on a military time? No You do no Yes, I do I know not the only one Listen if I am in the US It's not gonna be time. If I go abroad, it will be military time. Just for that trip. Uh huh. But not here. But not here. What is your time right now in military? What do you mean? Like it's 1651.

Oh, for 50 listeners. My God. Well, that would be what. Wow. Yeah. Do we have any like military? I don't know. Oh, yeah. If you. Do military time. Thank you very much. I salute you. You can't see it, but I saluted. Yeah, but yeah, carrots, starts off, Kai.

Yeah. All right. So I'm going to start saying just a bunch of random ad lilibs until I can't form my thoughts. Alright, awesome, ready? Cool. Sounds like me on tour. Awesome, ready, cool.

Today. Should we time you? What? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Should we time you? We have at least an hour. The honest, okay, sometimes I'll be at home and I'll be doing something and it'll be like half an hour.

I'm like, whoa, half an hour went by. That's like half of a tour. Yeah. Or it'll be like an hour went by, I didn't feel like that. But that was like a whole tour. And I realized how much longer tours feel because we're putting so much energy into them. It depends on your people as well though. Definitely does depend on um yeah people yeah. Once again time is a construct. It really is.

Like the only reason why people back in like the caveman era needed to know time. The only thing they needed was to know when the sun was up and when the sun was down. Yeah, that's all they needed, you know. Yeah, what do you... Anyway, okay. Yes. Chase, the case. Why did I say chase?? Chased. Cool. So yeah, gonna be starting us off with a true crime case here today. Now this one takes place in 1996. So not all too long ago. And there's actually some modern inclusions as well, but I'll get into that in just a bit. Williams and Laura Salisbury-Winnans would go on a camping trip in Shenandoah National Park in Virginia. On June 1st of 1996, their bodies would be discovered. Oh, we know what's happening. Yeah. So, Julianne, she commonly would go by Julie. Her name, she was 24. And Laura, who would go by Lolly, actually, was 26. So they're a pretty young

couple. They love the outdoors. That's actually how they met. That's exactly how they met. It was through a nonprofit organization in Minnesota where Julianne was from. The nonprofit, it focused on outdoor education and travel for exclusively women. It was called Woods Women, which I think is a cool name. It's not in function or anything anymore. It dispersed a long while ago. But they met each other. They really grew fond of each other. They learned everything through these camping trips, through being in the back country in the wilderness and camping out together through their nonprofit, through trips that they took together. It was a great relationship and so

for this trip specifically, they went on it together so that Julie Anne could enjoy some free time before she started a new job in Vermont where they would be going to move Actually even brought their golden retriever along with them His name was Taj Taj EG Assume it's a boy. I don't actually have any like College but Taj sounds like a boy's name to me.

It does. So Shenandoah National Park is beautiful. Most of our, all of our national parks are. But sadly the couple never got to enjoy their trip. Aww. Yeah. So the last time that they were seen alive in the park was on May 24th. So about five days after they got there in the first place, they met up with a ranger, a wilderness ranger who was there working in the park. They met up with that ranger to actually extend their backcountry camping permit for a few

more days because that's what they were going to do. That ranger dropped them back off to their campsite. And so that was May 21st or 24th, sorry, the last time that they were seen. They were then reported missing on May 31st. So about another a week or so that had gone by, they renewed their permit for another five days. And so it had already been about a couple of days past, one or two days past. That's why they were reported missing. Yeah. So of course, an investigation began, you know, park wide search and rescue efforts set in motion.

And while in cases like this, the best you can hope for is simply that they got lost. But this wasn't that. So what was found, it sparked outrage, fear, national conversations about wilderness safety and the worst that hate crimes could entail, really like the the worst that humanity can offer. And that's because their bodies were found. So they were found on on June 1st, so a day after the search and rescue began. It took them about a day. So their bodies were found at sort of a remote campsite. It was hidden pretty well in the wilderness, but it wasn't too far off from any other public-like

areas. It was about a quarter of a mile from the Skyland Lodge and the Skyland Drive area. So Skyland Lodge is sort of like a, honestly, a hotel that's sort of set right in the middle of the wilderness there, nestled in the forest, also not far off from the Appalachian Trail, which is the main trail running through, runs about 2,200 miles, passes through 14 different states. So lots of people do actually travel through there. But it still took a while for them to be found because while they were close to those main areas close to the trail, due to park rules and regulation, they had to camp off the trail where they wouldn't be visible to the public that were using the trail. They were nestled pretty well inside of the brush and the wilderness that was far off.

It did take them a whole day to find these people, even though they knew a rough area of where they were camping out in. And so they eventually were found. Now Laura was found inside of their tent, just in the main part of the campsite. Julianne was found about 45 to 75 feet away, not sure which, but somewhere in that range. 45 to 70 feet away alongside sort of the river embankment, and their throats were slipped. And so, yeah, it was a pretty gruesome sight. I haven't seen pictures or anything of what was found. I don't think there are any and I'm glad to not see them, but... I'm assuming that some like park ranger or like authority found them. It wasn't just like a random stranger walking? No, so it was the park ranger, the search and rescue team that eventually found them

there in that campsite. Yeah, there was a whole like operation that was set forth to find these two girls. So yeah, their bodies were found. Their dog Taj was nowhere to be seen, but he actually was found later in the week. He was still alive. He was roaming around another campsite that was in the area. Yeah I love how you don't say anything until until now

Survive I'm sorry. I'm sorry Um any thoughts so far Are me like the Any thoughts so far? I don't like this. Oh yeah. I don't like this either. I don't at all. I'm not logging right now.

No, I mean like I'm paying attention and I just don't know how to react to this. 100 percent. I think it just has to leave with the fact that you like right off the bat you told us is like their bodies were found here. I thought I wanted to pull you guys in like you did and that's why I said you did. So I okay it's so funny I always partially write out like a little bit of how I want to start my cases, but I don't fully like script out everything. But I'll use different like ways to pull you guys in sometimes. And most of the time I like draw it out a bit. This time I was like, I like that. Yeah. And this time I was like, Nope. I was like, I'm just gonna go right into it. Yeah, that's why I didn't say anything,

because it was like a 180 from what you usually do. And I'm like holding onto my desk, and I'm like, I need to do more. Shut up, strong. Yeah. Glad you guys think so. All right, well, get ready to hold onto your chair more. About to describe how they were found.

Oh. So Laura's hands were bound with duct tape. Her legs were bound together with a pair of thermal underwear. Not sure who exactly it belonged to, if it was her or if it was the person who did it So she was partially undressed, but thankfully there was no sign of any sexual assault Yeah, sorry, I'm like She's still dead, yeah, yeah You're fine. But it's still a dead person. She's still dead, yeah. So yeah, Laura was still found in their tent in the main part of the campsite.

Julianne, she was found a decent ways away. So yeah, just kind of stuck inside of her sleeping bag. Julianne's hands were also bound with duct tape. However, her legs were not, so they were just free. However, her legs were not, so they were just free. Julianne was fully naked, but once again, there were no signs of any sexual assault. There is like, I guess, some sort of suggestion that Julianne could have been tortured a bit and then moved away, sort of dumped away, but I really couldn't find much more about that. That wasn't really a focus, I think, during the investigation. The cause of death was, of course, determined to be, you know, their throats being slit,

them bleeding out. But time of death was hard to establish. They were, you know, outside in the park in the harsher weather with only partial shade covering them. So the coroner's rough estimate was their death was May 26 to May 28, somewhere between those two days. However, it could have been as soon as the night of the 24th after they were last seen and made contact with. Yeah. I mean, there were suspicions that they could have been seen and followed from the parking area from that lodge that was not too far off, but they were in bed for the night when they were attacked is what was determined.

So if somebody was stalking them, they would have had to wait hours to do so. That doesn't necessarily rule anything out. But yeah, so the reason why it could have even been as soon as the night of May 24th when they were killed is because they had a camera with them that would date stamp the pictures, you know, like on digital cameras, it puts on the date when it was taken. And the last picture that they took was during the day on May 24th. So May 24th was the last use of their camera and they weren't seen after May 24th, so that's what made it so hard to really determine time of death. It's also what gives more complexity to the investigation itself, trying to figure out who did it exactly. Yeah. Also just because

the fact that... Yeah, big window. And also the fact that their campsite was just so well hidden. because the fact that yeah big window and also the fact that their campsite was just so well hidden um yeah it's it's away from crying eyes exactly unless you were actively looking for something you wouldn't have seen it just passing by exactly um so yeah there was so much that made it such a difficult investigation this huge national park, this wilderness. You don't know what the difference between regular rocks and a rock used as a murder weapon is if you're looking through the park. And also the fact that while the park does track and take pictures of all cars exiting and entering and exiting, there's just so many that come through in one day. It's hard to actually figure out. And the Camillionera down to so many cars for like that window of time.

Exactly. Yeah. And again, like this sounds like a huge park. So a lot of cars are going to come through. Yeah Let me see How big the park actually is um, so Shenandoah national park is about 200 000 acres um, yeah Yeah, yeah Over 200 000 acres. That is huge. Yeah. Yeah. Over 200,000 acres. That is huge. Yeah. Yeah. Huge National Park. But

so the girls were bound. Investigation sort of did reveal that they were bound and restrained before that they were killed. No. There was no sign of a struggle or anything so you know what probably happened while they were asleep in the middle of the night somebody came up did that to them. Unconscious yeah. Yeah one interesting thing about one interesting thing about the duct tape that was used though, is that there is some evidence that the original duct tape that was used to bind Lolly or Laura with and so that sort of gave the impression that it could have been two or more people that were involved with what happened. Was there... I don't even know if you would know. I was like was there any valuables stolen? Anything like that? Not really, no. I mean they even know if you would know I was like was there any valuables stolen anything

Like that really no, I mean they didn't they didn't take much right, you know, they were on Just a backpacking trip. It was food But there was nothing really a value to take I guess I Don't know in the investigation though I don't know. In the investigation though, like I mentioned, of course, the National Park Service, they went through their cameras of all the tags of their cars entering, but they couldn't really find much. The closest thing that they found to evidence was that there was a male DNA found on the underwear that was used to tie Laura's legs. There was also a couple hairs found around. One of the hairs was from a glove that was near the crime scene, and another one of the hairs was stuck to the adhesive of the duct tape.

They couldn't really do much with these hairs though because they were a little bit old at that point, not great testing, there were no like roots on the hairs which is where most of that DNA comes from. But they did determine that those hairs did come from one person, So there was obviously one person that was involved. That doesn't give them much. No, that's true. So, nothing really happened for close to a year. There wasn't much that they could do. But it wasn't until the next year, 1997, when they finally had their first main suspect

in this case. Okay. Yeah. Because at this point, I'm like, how did they find a suspect after a year? And this situation? Yeah. So he, his name was Darryl David Rice. And there was some pretty good, I guess, evidence, nothing like scientific or physical, but I guess being wrong place, wrong time, stuff like that. I'll get into it more. But Darryl was the prime suspect for a while in the murders. It started in about May, July of 1997. So July 1997, he was arrested for an attempted abduction of a girl in Shenandoah National Park. So, yeah, so it was around the Skylodge, Skylodge, like, drive area. So around the hotel and around where like, it was a popular sort of bike trail to go through in the National Park. She was on her bike, he ran her off the road

in his truck and then he tried to drag her into his truck no he was unsuccessful in doing so which made him even more angry so he tried to run her over with her oh my yeah A miracle that she survived that. I'm so glad she did. Did she actually like run over? No. So she was able to escape. She got up ran. Okay. He eventually, you know, he was arrested by the Rangers. He pleaded guilty. He received an 11 year sentence. Yeah, so he was arrested in 1997, July, and sort of that's when they started doing more research into him. He became a here their prime suspect for a bunch of different reasons. So his attack on this bicyclist was in the really exact same area of the park that the

girls were murdered in, his sort of predatory behavior, his selection of female victims. But there's also some claims that he was actually videotaped entering the park in 1996 at one of the entrances at 8 o' 5 p.m. on May 25th. And then again videotaped at about 5 p.m. on May 26th. So May 25th and 26th, he was in the park of 1996, and that's roughly when those girls were said to be murdered. I was gonna say that falls in the window, doesn't it?

Yeah, it does. And then later it also says that he did return with actually two of his friends on June 1st, Carl and Robert Ruckert. And I mentioned earlier, there was some belief that it could have been two or more people that were involved in the... You did? Yeah. Yeah.

They questioned him about this information. He denied that he was in the park on the 25th and 26th, but he did say that he was there on June 1st. And honestly, this combined with his arrest for running over the girl on the bike was enough. After God knows what he wanted to do with her after dragging her. Yeah. It was enough for the attorney general. Like I mentioned, there was not any actual physical evidence, but it was circumstantial evidence. So it was April of 2002. Rice was charged with the murder of Julianne and Laura. The investigators, the main investigators of the case claimed that he killed them because he hated women and homosexuals. Apparently, he made statements to the investigators that he quote hated gays and prayed on women quote because they are more vulnerable than men he also stated that Julianne and Laura quote deserved to die because they were

lesbian whores oh my god yeah oh my crap So all of that was in their eyes and you know in that time was more than enough to to charge someone. No one has a small dick. No, literally. Literally. I mean where does all this hate originate from? I mean where does all this hate originate from? I have no clue. I mean, small dick like that's the No, because I'm thinking like it'd be It'd be different if he was saying this to like a friend that he already talked shit with But he was under custody when like he said this, didn't he? Mm-hmm.

Yeah, so like he was telling this to like authorities, so I'm like, where is this rage coming from? Like you're already like, you're not getting out of this, like you're not making your situation better. Yeah. He literally was not. And that's why it's so crazy, but I guess also in line with our justice system, that he was, his case was later dismissed. He was not charged for this. He could have been really bad for him because as well as being charged with four

counts of capital murder, he was also charged with a hate crime, which at that time is a federal sentence. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Like federal sentencing enhancement. So hate crimes were very much looked down upon. If he got convicted, he would have gotten

the death penalty, he would have been executed. So the investigators, the prosecutors, they spent a bunch of time building that case. But like I mentioned, they lacked actual physical forensic evidence. It was all circumstantial. Yeah. You guys remember that hair that was found at the crime scene? Yeah. Yes. So it was tested once again against his DNA. The DNA on the hair did not match Rice's DNA or the victims. And that caused the case to just fall apart. You know, the one chance they had of actual forensic evidence was not there. So in 2004, the charges against him were dismissed without prejudice, which meant that he could still be

charged at a later date. It's just for now, they did not have the evidence they needed to continue. Yeah. Got it. Okay. Okay. Yeah. So they were back to the drawing board back to square one. Later on, Rice, though, not connected with the murders of Julianne and Laura, but he was later in 2005. Actually, yeah, he was later connected to the murder of a woman named Alicia Reynolds and other attempted abductions attributed to someone known as the Route 29 Stalker, who was a murderer, killer. Yeah. So he was later connected to more crime. He pleaded no contest, essentially guilty to abductions of one of the victims of that stalker. He wasn't formally charged in the case of the lady, Alicia, though. So there was a lot that happened with Rice, but unfortunately they didn't charge him with anything for Julianne or for Laura's murders.

So they continued looking. There were more suspects that were found. They didn't really have many. Another man, his name was Richard Yvonc. He was a suspect in the murders. Police were actually about to arrest him for three other murders that were separate, but he then committed suicide in 2002. So police weren't able to question him or anything like that. Now there is some talk that Julianne and Laura's murders are connected to something a lot bigger. Something that is the colonial Parkway murders. The colonial Parkway murders are a series of murders of at least eight people that happened in Virginia.

So in Virginia between 1986 to 1989. So definitely, so before, you know, the time of Julianne and Laura's murders, but still in the same general stretch of the state that had happened. So there was consideration there. In 1986, there was a murder of another couple. But, and so the FBI was invested in that case. And so there was a time when Julianne and Laura's murders thought they could have been connected to that string of serial murders that happened in the area. But I think I might get into that for a another true crime segment on one of our next episodes.

So fair. Yeah. 2004. The charges were dropped. And the case has remained unsolved. Oh, to this day, still unsolved. Up until June 20th, 2024. No. Hi. 20 years later? That is now.

That's now. Yeah. Not even a month, that's a month ago. Wait. Go ahead. Yeah. That was a month. We're recruiting, we're recording June 23rd,

or July 23rd,rd or July 23rd. Sorry, July 23rd. Yeah, July 23rd. This case was officially solved and closed June 20th, 2024. Oh my god. Yeah, that's crazy. You buried the lead. What can I say? I'm a good investigator.

So all the time passed by there was, you know, nothing to progress this case, nothing to give them more evidence or anything like that. It was unsolved for 20 years. But it wasn't until 2021, so just a few years ago, when a new FBI team was assigned to review Julian and Laura's murders, is one of their investigative teams. Not necessarily reopening that cold case, but just supplementing more research into it. So the pieces of evidence that were recovered from the scene. The investigative team, they sent several pieces of that to a private lab for testing. And with our modern technologies, our modern

databases of all of the DNA that's been collected over these last 20 years, there was a match to the DNA that they found. So the DNA was matched to a man named Walter Leo Jackson Sr. And who is this Walter? I love him. Walter. He's from Cleveland, Ohio. He was a convicted rapist from Ohio. They brought him in, they got more DNA, they took more DNA from evidence on, you know, Jackson's crimes, and once again it was a match to what they had found. So they looked into Jackson more. He had a long criminal history, several kidnappings, rapes, assaults. But here's the kicker. He also was an avid hiker and was known to very frequently visit Shenandoah National Park. So yeah, the dots are being connected. Yep. So yeah, June 20th 2024 is

when the FBI officially announced that they had identified Jackson as Julianne and Laura's killer. You know, they wanted more help for other unsolved crimes. They actually identified that at the time of their murder, he was driving a 1984 Chestnut Brown AMC Eagle 30. The exact car he was driving. He later was driving a van. They said he was known to use all sorts of different evasive things, temporary tags, different license plates, changing vehicles. So he managed to stay hidden for a very long time. Yeah, it sounds like it. So finally, they found who did it, right? Jackson was going to be charged for these murders. But they couldn't charge him for them. Why?

But why? He died in prison in March of 2018 So Wait, so he died years before they knew it was him six years before they figured it out But hey he was already in prison so I guess they found the closure they needed even if they couldn't formally charge him with anything. Yeah, but. What the hell?

Yeah. It makes me like I'm glad that they you know that they finally figure it out Their family could get closure and things but It makes me sick to my stomach that this man in prison was thinking to himself that he got away without Being caught for those murders No, seriously. Like, it's kind of crazy that like he was in prison for like completely

separate cases, right? And it's like only he knew, like he was a essentially like a, I guess a serial murderer? Um, yeah. Or actually, yes, technically not, but he was a murderer, like, and nobody knew that. I don't know. This is... I'm glad that there's, you know, an answer. I'm not sure how I feel about this. I mean, I'm glad that this man was behind bars. I'm not so glad that he was already dead, but.

And especially how recent it is also. Yeah, literally a month ago is crazy. I don't know. Yeah. The more you know. Well, yeah, and it's always what like, I'm curious about, like, there's so many unsolved crimes, just dead cold cases out there. Give it another like 10, 15 years, you don't know what kind of technology we'll have. And like, what can become evidence that people didn't consider ever an evidence back then Yeah We're doing it's just it's so interesting to think about

How investigations were conducted back then. It's like, what can you go off? It makes sense that so many things were left unsolved because they didn't have the access to DNA databases and DNA testing as a whole that we do now. The evidence right in front of them, but they couldn't do anything about it because they didn't have the ability to actually inspect that evidence. Yeah. Crazy. Yeah.

And I think that is- It comes to show that people know how fast technology is progressing, so they always keep things for the future. It's like, this could come in handy in the future. Like it could be evidence or it could be used. Mm hmm. Like how long did it take us to go to the moon after we discovered flight? Like, no, it's crazy.

Not too long. Not very long, right? Like it was, I don't know, crazy how fast we can advance with our technologies. So I was actually doing a little more sort of research into it. And there are people who have written books about it, of course. And so I found an article where somebody interviewed the author. Did I close the tab? Let me pull that up. So I just think it was an interesting read in a way because... So, the lady was interviewing the author of this book and one of the questions was the FBI and the National Park Service, they had to work together on this investigation. But when the author of the book was interviewing the FBI agents that were helping to lead this

case, they seemed so annoyed and they looked down upon the National Park Service because they weren't like as equipped for like investigations like the FBI was. Get over it. It's your job to bring the equipment. Okay, but the thing is, and the author, she brought up a really good point. It was like, do you really think that the FBI is better equipped than the National Park Service to solve a case in the wilderness of a national park? What is the FBI? In buildings, indoors in closed environments. They're like, the first thing you learn at investigator school for the FBI is to secure the scene, close any monitor, any entrances or exits to make sure no evidence can get in or get out without identification.

It's like, well, you got to throw that all away because what's considered the crime scene in the wilderness, like there's no doors, you can just go to make sure it's contained. And I was like, you have such a great, like that is so crazy. And then you have the elements to go against as well. Exactly. Like what was eaten, what was not, You know, what is a regular piece of the ground versus something that's been walked along, a little trail has been started type of thing. Yeah. I don't know. What has been washed away or like blown away, what still remains. Yeah. So, you know, I'm glad the investigation got somewhere. I'm glad the FBI stepped back in in 2021.

And they found who did it, even if he had already passed away. I was curious when something new appears years later. I'm like, was someone still working on this case? Or just casually go in there? Or do they have like some notifications set up in case like there's a match and like they're always running things? I mean, technically, a cold case is just that it's a cold case. It doesn't mean it's not necessarily closed. Yeah, like you legally can't close a case until you find a resolution to it. So like, I guess there's always alerts that are going to happen if there's like DNA matches

and things that happen. I don't know. The FBI is like more advanced than I'll ever be. So I'm sure they have back to like depending the country that the crime took place. Oh definitely. Because when I covered the missing painter kid in Spain, his family claimed him dead years after and that's because they had to wait a certain time before they could if there was nobody found.

Yeah. So I think it really just depends country and like the legal system, but 100% yeah. Yeah, I'm just curious how the FBI works. I think we all are. I think we all are. You know, I'm going to join the FBI just to figure it out and then I'm going to quit. And then we're never going to see you again. Where are you like, didn't I join the FBI? I guess it is working. I think he's undercover. Little do we know that they took him out.

Bye guys. All last time I'll ever hear from you or you'll ever hear from me. We'll have to talk to you. Yeah, to talk to me, go in the same. I got my head. You there. I'll be there. I'll be there to observe. Those are the murders of Julianne Julie Williams and Laura Lolly Winnins.

Thank you. Thank you very much. Julie Williams and Laura Lolly Winnins. Thank you. Thank you very much. What's next? Let with the murder, finish with a... Uh-huh. Way to close it. I wasn't sure what I was going for.

Uh-huh. Okay, cool. Yeah, that's why I was like, I'm gonna let you go. Ha ha ha. Okay, and I'm gonna let you go, Alexis. Run wild. What do you have for us? I'm really excited about this one. Sick.

Mainly, okay, so, you know, I was looking for some cases, you know, some paranormal cases. I like finding, once I had a case in mind that I wanted to do, but I was like, you know, I was looking for some cases, you know, some paranormal cases. I like finding ones. I had a case in mind that I wanted to do, but I was like, you know what, let's do something different. Let's spice it up today. And I'm so glad I did because I found this beautiful, wonderful case. The name of it really drew me in.

Are you guys ready? Yeah. Ready. The Humpty Doo Poltergeist. Holy shit. Yeah. Who? Humpty Doo. Humpty Doo. Where's this at? Now let me tell you. This is in Australia. Ah. Humpty There's an Australia How did you down under? How they do Australia, that's what it's called It's a it's in like the northern territory of Australia it's by Darwin for any of my Australians that are listening And

It's still funny because I was researching it and another thing that drew me in was that it's, you know, the Humpty Doo Poltergeist and it's considered to be one of the most media covered paranormal cases in Australian history. No way. There's really not that much media on it. But I found everything that I could. All right. All right. So this starts 1997, August, when a couple, Jill Somerville, sick name, and Dave Clark, sicker name, moved in to a new rented home on 90 McMinn's Drive in Humpty Doo, Australia.

Sorry, this all sounds almost like you're trying to read a children's book. I am. I am. I think the first name sounds cooler than the second one. Okay, Jill Somerville. Yeah, Jill Somerville is way cooler than... Okay, yeah. Somerville is a really sick last name. It is. Right? All right. So Alright, so Stumberville and Clark, you know, they love their new home. They had a nice time living there so far. They had no comments, questions, concerns until January 1998 when a married couple,

Andrew and Kirsty Aggie-ish, they decided to move into the home with them. I don't know how that situation works. I'm not sure if it's like they had like a Craigslist thing online and they wanted to move in or something. But they moved into the home with them. Not sure what the relationship is beforehand or how they moved in,

what the house is like on the inside. I only have photos from the outside. So I don't have much detail on that. But they moved in along with their daughter. She was 11 months old. Her name was Jasmine. And they noticed that once the couple had started moving in, there were a lot of things that were happening in the home that some might consider to relate to a poltergeist.

Things like objects flying throughout the room and these objects would be like broken glass, they'd be like bottles, lids, knives even. But yet nobody was there to throw them. Nobody threw them. And it would increase over time. The people that were living inside the home of the couples, they had noticed that they were being somewhat targeted by this head pulled device.

What? Was it a hate crime? Oh my god I hate against the living Where do we like why you laugh but It's sort of game, you know, of course weird. I mean it's gonna get weird once you notice that knives are flying throughout your house, but Wait, that's not normal yours

Yeah, I mean I grew up with knives flying around my house so Anyways, so what are the couples? What are the couples that was living in the home? You know, they were chilling out, maxing, maxing all good. And they said that it started raining gravel and seashells from the ceiling. Oh, indoors? It just dropped down from the ceiling. Yeah. Not like it was literally raining, but it was like as if it was raining.

You know what I'm saying? I think it's coming from the ceiling more. What? I think I just confused myself more. I think they were just coming from the ceiling. There's flying down on these guys while they were just killing in their house. So it was raining. Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was raining men. Hallelujah.

And, um, they noticed that this is probably my favorite part. They noticed that the poltergeist would try to communicate with them. Okay, I want you guys to guess how they would try to communicate. Just give them like, just like a guess. Should it be a wild guess? Yeah, wild. They would try to spell it out with spaghetti. Oh, I like that.

They would, they would play musical chairs. Dude, how did you know? So, Jay was the closest. Wow, we're gonna go. They wouldn't use spaghetti. They would use either gravel or they would use Scrabble tiles. Oh, that's actually smart. Oh Scrabble tiles. Yeah, so much sense Yeah, yeah, and that's what made me think like you have this mother ever smart, bro Anyways, so it would form words fire skin help and no And they would all be placed throughout the house some of them sometimes it would be on the wall some of them it would be on the ceiling on the floor it would just be sporadic throughout

the house mm-hmm but one day the couple noticed that there was a trident symbol and a cross symbol made of gravel on their floor and on the walls so they decided to call a priest. Father Stephen D'Souza of Darwin's St. Mary's Cathedral. There was actually one event involving him. He noticed there was a steak knife on the top of the microwave. And this is where I'm going to say, quote, as I walked away, one of the residents called father. And when he turned around to respond, he said there was a knife flying straight for him. And he didn't think he had enough time to react.

Now the knife had just been a few feet away from him when it suddenly stopped, almost as if it hit something and then just fell to his feet. Yo the ghost saved him there's two ghosts there. Is there? I don't know I'm just gonna go with it. No I think think it's just one. I think it's just Humpty Doo. But yeah, it like flew straight for him. And then it just stopped. And then it fell to his feet. There,

after this he contacted another priest, a priest his name was Father Tom English. He had him come over to the house like four different times. One of the things that Father Tom had noted about the case was that this poltergeist quote doesn't follow the laws of physics, end quote. What? Do any of them? Yeah. Exactly, right? I was about to say, like, we're just like, die. You know what I'm saying? Unrelated, but like not. One time I had a guest who was like, it was later on in the tour. And so

I had already brought like ghosts up a couple of times whatever But he was like so you're saying that ghosts don't have to die here to be here and I was like No, I was like like ghosts don't have to do anything. They're ghosts. He's like, there's no like I was like rules they need to follow Anyway, sorry continue It's so funny. No, no, you're fine Yeah I feel like I don't know what goes on and guess brains when they come into the house sometimes like

What they think at least what their first impression is like, what do they think about? The house or you? The house, not me. Well, anyways, so there was one event where there was a pistol cartridge that flew and just landed right at his feet. Just one more time. It flew it out of nowhere. He said, quote, it crashed against walls.

They just fly out of a room that nobody was in, for instance. Outside things came crashing down near us, end quote. And he decided, Father Tom, to bless the home. He spread holy water throughout it. And this was one quote, everything went berserk. Things were flying around. When I was leaving a medicine bottle, it came flying out of nowhere.

And it just just end quote. And then he said that he brought a crucifix, a Bible, and vials of holy water for the residents. But the crucifix was thrown outside of the house, and the holy water was shattered and thrown against the walls. The poltergeist then that same night proceeded to make banging noises. It was like scraping the walls inside the house making all these disruptive loud noises throughout the

house for hours throughout the night so they couldn't sleep. Jill actually said quote, it completely freaked this out. It was like something was actually inside the walls right next to us. We couldn't sleep, we were crying, we would have left the house but we had nowhere else to go end quote. I remember, okay wait, I remember. There was like rats in a certain place throughout. And you could hear like the rats scratching against the walls and you would hear it for like nights at my house, like years and years back. What?

Yeah, well yeah there was like rats and they would just scratch against the walls and you would hear it going on all night and that's how I imagine this experience was for the family. Oh my god. I mean there were rats. They're not rats. I'm talking about a personal experience. No, no, I'm talking about your experience.

It was Humpty Dink. How did you know there were rats? They're not rats. I'm talking about a personal experience. No, no, I'm talking about your experience. It was Humpty-Dum. How did you know there were rats? I'll tell you that story afterwards. Okay, no. Anyways, so yeah, they experienced that. I would be freaked out too.

If I couldn't even sleep, I'm hearing all this noise all night. I don't know sleep. I'm hearing all this noise all night. I don't know. I hate that. Anyways. So as time would go on the more religious figures that would come into the home, the more aggravated the poltergeist would be. There was a time where hold on just a second

oh my god stranger danger somebody was knocking on my window anyways no way so yeah it's okay so they the poltergeist it was a rat so the poltergeist he took the Scrabble tiles, I mentioned that, and he would make words with them. But there was one really popular word that kept coming up. And that was Troy. Troy? Troy. Like Troy Bolton. Yeah.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. And at first, they were kind of confused like Troy. But then one of the couples realized that it could have been a reference to a Troy Raditz, one of their good friends that passed in a fire that same year, actually. And it was just down, it was a few miles from their home. And it actually happened January 1998 when that second couple decided to move in. Damn, what?

Yeah, that's when the event started happening was the time that their good friend had passed. So they started thinking maybe this is him. Yeah. But at the same time, it's kind of like, was it really him? Because if it was him, he wouldn't be doing all of this to try to scare us, things like that. I mean, would he? Maybe he's playing a prank on them, like fucking with them. fucking yeah, I mean that's what I would control of the other side yet Yeah, yeah, what do I he's so like in the tutorial mode working through his powers, yeah

They just weren't completely sold on it I think it makes complete sense that it was their friend Just because it was the same exact time. It was nearby. And they claim to be good friends. It makes sense that they'd be doing all of that to, you know, say, Hey, I'm here. But yeah, they weren't really completely 100% sure nor sold on it. So they had media come over. Media would come over a lot to cover these events that would go on inside the home, including the last visit from the priest, Father Tom. The landlord had actually seen all of this media coverage,

and when he saw, he didn't exactly like the fact that there was a severe amount of damage to the home. So he decided to take the couples to court to have them evicted. I'm sorry. I understand that maybe you couldn't believe them and thought they were trying to make things up. But that's exactly why. Yeah. So in the in court, that's exactly what the couples had pled. You know, this wasn't our fault. This is what's happening.

There's a poltergeist in our own. He keeps doing this, this and that. And the judge believed it. So the couples were not evicted. Now, even they even though they weren't evicted, they still ended up moving out of the house. Now, unfortunately, from what I know, it doesn't actually say when they moved out nor what happened really to the house afterwards. Nothing bad news, bad news.

I'm just saying there's really not that much information about after. All we know is that the events stopped happening after they had moved out. The next people that were moving into the home, they reported nothing. Now I do want to say that when you Google the Humpty Doo poltergeist, one of the first things that shows up is a blog on the website, the Ford team. And that's where you can get a whole lot of information, but it's not really necessarily information. It's basically just them observing the home and kind of doing paranormal investigations

rather than getting information about the house. So there are different kind of experiences that are written in there, especially because there were at one point 30 people in the house kind of observing what was going on. And one of those people that seems excessive. Yeah, is was crazy. One of these witnesses was named Cropster. And Cropster, he, they also wrote like in the blog. And one thing that they wrote was, quote, a few of my experiences at the house still puzzle me 20 years later.

The first occurred as I was sitting at a table facing two of the female residents as they washed up at the kitchen sink only a few feet away. They were still talking when I heard two sounds. The first, a handful of gravel stones from their driveway hitting the curated tin roof of the house. And then the kitchen floor where they were scattered. Who?

Loud, distinct and separate noises. Neither of the women had thrown anything and the stones had fallen between me and where the girls were standing. It appeared that the stones had come from both the roof and the plaster ceiling, end quote. Okay. Kropster had shared another story of his, this one being one of his favorite. Quote, one small segment I did record in the house is a personal favorite. Kirsty, Andrew, Tony

Healy and I are in the main room talking and you can hear Christine in the background saying, are in the main room talking and you can hear Christine the background saying you don't know what it's going to do it just does what it wants to do bang a knife ricochets off a wall and. All of these different experiences in the home, they were captured on the media. There's so many different ones, but mainly it is the 14 that blog. That got all of that information. From 1997, 1996, 1998. But neighbors haven't reported any phenomena since, ever since then it's been completely silent.

I do have a photo of the house, but I also have some audio from the investigations that they did when they were in the home. and you can hear the things that were being thrown, the knives, bullets that were thrown to you, and you can hear it on the background. So I can share that to you guys if you want to hear them. You don't have to hear them now just because they're like a few seconds long. I don't know if you want to like, yeah, I'm going to send them through here. It's on SoundCloud too. Our way. Perfect. And we will add this on the Instagram post. I was going to say. Or both. Yeah. Yeah, we could do both. Hump-a-doo audio 1998. Hump-a-doo audio. Yeah. Okay.

I'm being Australia makes us so much better. I'm going to send a photo of the house. There's a cool audio. Take a look at it. It is a cool idea. Well, we post them like always. Yeah, I'm going to send them to you guys in the grid chat after this, too. But yeah. It being one of the more media covered

paranormal cases in Australian history, unfortunately, it still does not have that much for me to cover. So that's all I have for today. Thank you. But hopefully you guys enjoyed. Do you have any questions, comments, concerns? No, I mean, it's a fun story. I think the biggest thing is just like, why did that one knife just stop like it hit something? Right? I don't know. I think Humpty Doo is the good spirit who is there protecting them from an evil spirit that they know about. I think you might be right. I'm always right. And I was thinking that it was like I was thinking that it was like a I was thinking that it was like a threat, like I could do this if I wanted to.

Oh, okay. See, the thing is that they said they described it like it hit something, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. Like something stopped it from the front rather than like pulling it from behind to stop it.

You know? So like that's the thing. Yeah, that's what made it... Yeah, they're still like investigating it like 20 years later. Like I think the last I've ever heard that they went into the home and did a little observation, 2018. So apparently recently, okay, one of the websites that I was like, like one of my sources, there was a little thing that kind of describes it,

the house where it's at, and it says, Humpty Doo in Australia's northern territory. Humpty Doo is an Australian slang term meaning everything topsy turvy or turned upside down. I was thinking what? Okay, I like how it became an excellent thing. Team name, yeah, yeah, no, that's sick. Yeah, I was just like topsy turvy. That's crazy. I've never heard that before. Now if you can't use topsy turvy, you can use humpty do. Humpty do. Humpty do poacher. Thank you, thank you. I really just like the name.

It really drew me in. Oh yeah. And I was like, I love it. You said Humpty-Doo. I feel like we've been doing a lot of Humpty. What's gonna happen? Wait a minute. Anyways, thank you for listening.

Thank you. To the Humpty-Doo Poltergeist. You spooky scary. Now, Jay, take it away. I will take it away. And before I do, well, as I do, I have a question for y'all. So I have an acronym for y'all

and I want you to just give me your best guess as what this acronym is for. OK, I. I know. Huh? Oh, was it what you said? I said H.O.D.T. O.G.O. What is that?

Any Chapel Rowan fans out there? Yeah, yeah, yeah. OK, so the acronym is GGLF. Oh. Get giggly like Friday. Get good little word I can't say. I'm like, wait, what? I don't know. At least I came up with what? I don't know.

I don't know. At least I came up with something. I don't know. You do improv, brah. Improv. That's great. He did. And you did too. This conversation is all improv. We yes anded it. Yeah, right away.

Okay, so. GGLF. GGLF. Goo goo ga ga. Okay, so. GGLF. GGLF. Gugugaga. You know, it has the first G and that's about it. Gugugaga. No, no, the two G's. Gugu. Gugu.

Gugu. Gugu. Loser. Fuck. Oh, boo boo. Boo boo loser fuck. I don't know what that means. That's what it stands for. Does it? Yeah. Not for this story. Okay. Oh my god, different one. So I'm gonna give you a hint.

Um, please. Well, I'm gonna, it's related to the story. Um, the year is 1998, uh, in Brie, France. Um, and I did not search for a case in France in particular. This is just where this happened to be. I support it. Yeah, in Brie France an act described as a mass suicide occurred. Oh, whoa, that's... Yeah. You... Go ahead. No, I was just looking at my screen. You said that, and my eyes widened. I'd literally stop.

It felt like I short-circuited for a sec. So that whoa was the biggest turn. Yeah. Like not what I was expecting. Yeah. Yeah. Um, here it goes. I'm sorry. I am not sorry. Oh, God. Okay. This is early one morning. Go ahead. Yeah. No, I was just gonna say this is our first like, No, I was just going to say this is our first like, I don't know, bonus story. I don't know what to expect. So hold that thought.

And then, yes, yeah. Early one morning, residents in Brie, France woke up to find 11 victims hanging from a bridge. Fuck. No! No, I need... Go ahead. Continue.

Oh my god. Continue. Um, these victims measured between 9 inches and 24 inches in height. Oh. Oh. Uh, yeah. So, sorry to say that these victims were gnomes. Yeah, garden gnome...

something. LF. Okay, Alexis? I'm right here. Oh, do you... This is your hint of, you know... Well, I can make your hint a little longer to make it helpful. No, I know. Okay, a little longer to make it helpful. No, I know.

Okay, a note was left on the scene that's red. When you read this few words, we will no longer be part of your selfish world, where we serve merely as pretty decorations." And this shocking event was a stark protest against the use of gnomes as mere garden ornaments. The letter was left behind by the GGLF. Garden Gnome Liberation Front. Yes it is! Let's go!

Let's go! Let's go! You're supposed to let the moment come, brother! I'm still proud of myself. Yeah! Alright. Alright, continue. Good job. I am impressed.

Yeah, so this is the story of the Garden Gnome Liberation Front. That's so sweet. Oh man, the emotions on this one already. I was like, honey, and then you were like, mass suicide, and I was like, oh shit. And now it's just Garden Gnome protests. And I'm like, huh, okay. Continue, continue. No people.

Yeah. So there were gnomes. So I titled this as the Great Gnomescape because that's the name that was given to the case. And then I quickly realized that it goes deeper than I thought. Okay. So the GGLF was born in Alistair, France in 1996. And the French name is Fontes de Liberation de Nantes et Jardins, which the acronym would be FL and J. But I'm going to keep it in English because that's how I found it. Got it. So this group's mission was to rescue garden gnomes from their lives as decorative prisoners and release them into the wild. For real?

Yeah. Green gnomes. So in 1977 was kind of the first notable event involving the Garden Gnome Liberation Front. And this was in Cheville, France on September 1997. Okay. So the Garden Gnome Liberation Front, the Garden Gnome Liberation Front liberated over 150 garden gnomes from various gardens in town. Oh my goodness gracious. So valiant. I want that many garden gnomes. So these gnomes were taken from private gardens and it was mostly in the dead of the night

when they would go missing. Only for the gnomes to later be discovered again, arranged in a forest clearing stage as they were embarking on an escapade or returning to nature. That is so sick. Yeah. Yeah.

So the Garden Gnome Liberation Front left a message at the scene. And in the letters, the local newspapers, the Garden Gnome Liberation Front claim responsibility of the act. And they were stating their mission to free the garden gnomes from their enslavement as mere decorations. And of course, 150 gnomes go missing and then you find them all looking like they're going to go off into like the wilderness. Or coming back from the wilderness. And or coming back from the wilderness. And they gain a lot of attention. They gain significant media attention, both locally and internationally. And they kind of just highlighted the quirky

and like whimsical nature of the protest. Now you can imagine there's lots of different people. So their reactions varied. Some people were amused, seeing them as harmless pranks. Other people were more upset at the loss of their garden ornaments. Yeah. Eventually, the leader of the Garonneum Liberation Front was given a suspended sentence, and

he was fined for his role of the theft over the 150 gnomes. This sentence, however, did little to dampen the group's activities. Okay, yeah, valid. Yeah. So, there's a law, and I wasn't sure where to go or how to organize this but their actions were intended to like be a protest of the commercialization of ornamental garden gnomes. It's just advocating for like their freedom and like return them to the wild. Of course, this would start in France. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so the group sought to raise awareness about what they saw as the plight of the garden gnomes, just drawing attention to

the often overlooked issues and using like this figures just for decoration. And they continued to be active for several years with similar incidents occurring in other parts of France and other countries. Dude, that is so sick, actually. I don't know. I think it's hilarious, but. So this was in 1996. The 1998 was when they all like committed the mass suicide. Um, but we're gonna like fast forward to like

April of the year 2000 Because that this was when the garden gnome liberation front struck again Did could you imagine like just coming across that you're just strolling And you just see a bunch of gnomes 150 literally This was when they targeted, um rolling. And you just see a bunch of gnomes, 150. No, literally. No, literally. So this was when they targeted Francis' first garden gnome exhibition in Bagatelle Park in Paris. So just like before, it was a nighttime raid and they, quote-unquote, liberated 20 gnomes and left a warning.

So the warning said, more action will follow unless garden gnomes are no longer ridiculed and release into their natural habitat, end quote. He's a garden gnomes natural habitat. I would like to know. I would like to know as well. No. No, because they're being liberated from the gardens. Yeah.

It's a different kind of garden, brother. The one in the nature. The gnome garden. It's weed. Where they grow a bunch of weed. Yeah, what do we... Look at the gnomes. They definitely do that. Stoner gnomes.

So, once again, they didn't actually take it very serious. And then in 2003, another bizarre incident occurred in Saint-Dé-de-Vosges. I think that's how it's said. This is in Easter France.

So this is all happening in France right now. French police were trying to find a home for over 80 gnomes that had been kidnapped earlier that year from the Garden Gnome Liberation Front. Oh my god. Yeah. That's so many. Yeah.

So the difference was that these gnomes were actually discovered lined up on the steps to the local church on Sunday morning. So if you wanted to go to church that Sunday, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, No, no, no. You liberated them. I liberated them. Yeah, you have to say I'm part of the resistance. Yeah, literally. So, of course, despite the police efforts, strangely enough, the owner, like the gnomes owners, were strangely like reluctant to come forward and claim their stolen property, which unfortunately just left the Gnomes homeless and stored in a police station. Yeah, so of course this was the last of the Girded Gnome Liberation because pretty soon in Germany, Spain, Switzerland, Italy, the US, and Canada, groups decided to start liberating gnomes.

Hell yeah. So this is the freedom that they wish for in America. Yeah, this would be a worldwide thing. So one notable example is that in Europe there's the gnome sanctuary in Barca, Italy. And there's a gnome sanctuary in Italy. There's a gnome sanctuary in Italy, and it was established in 1999. Now, I will be sharing with you their manifesto because they have a website. Yeah, no. And it's just great.

It says, Remember our ancestors, the proud bulls that guarded the gates of the Persian kings, the lions that kept watch over the palaces of the Chinese emperors, and the most famous of all, the mighty Sphinx, enigmatic, impeturable, who shall return to the king, emperor of the oldest race of all, to lead his gnomic hordes to our final victory. It just goes on and on. It's quite long, feel free to take a look. Yeah, I'll open it up. Yeah, yeah, it is long.

I'll probably link this on the website so the listeners can just check it out. Or rise gnomes. Rise up in reclaimer glory. The energy I'm getting is just flat earther. These people are literally flat earthers. It's the same energy, the same people who want to liberate gnomes are 100% flat earthers. I support it. Okay, I see that now. I didn't see that. Free gnomes, bro.

They have some respect on their name. Now this, like, gnome sanctuary in Italy just provided, like, a safe haven for the liberate gnomes. They offer them like a chance to live freely in like a green wooden valley. In addition to that, there is in 1996, there's also a gnome village. Once again, this one's also in Italy. Their website looks a little more legit. It has like Tickets you can buy events Um, it shows you the map of their location or email

What are the prices you're open every day from 10 30 To 18 o'clock alexis. We gotta go Okay, six o'clock Yeah, well it's already closed. So you still. Okay, six o'clock. Yeah. Well, it's already closed. You still translate it to six o'clock. So why do you use military time? Anyway, see you later. No, that's great. And today it was closed. Tuesday, 23rd of July village closed for maintenance so they were closed today either way Yeah They just started popping up all over the world people would liberate gnomes and in 2008 Another significant arrest took place in Brittany, France

Because a man was caught, where the numbers are getting bigger, with 170 stolen gnomes. Brrrrrrrrr That would be great. Oh my god, yes. I would be so down. We'd get so in trouble. No, they'd write us, ah. Yeah, no, but yeah, this man was caught with 170 gnomes. And once again, it just continued the legacy of like the garden gnome liberation

front. He's my hero. Now I'm going to give you the definition of no mean. Because no mean. No mean. Yes. G-N-O-M-I-N-G. No mean. Yeah.

So no mean is defined as the act of taking garden gnomes from someone's property and placing them in a different location often as a prank. This is a playful, typically harmless activity that is intended to surprise and amuse the original owner and those who discover the relocated gnomes. Now gnoming can involve relocating gnomes, moving a gnome from different yard, public place, or even creating a gnome village in a new location. It also includes staging scenarios, arranging gnomes in a humorous or elaborate setup to entertain those who find them, and leaving notes. Sometimes pranksters leave notes explaining that gnomes have been liberated or are in an adventure.

Sick. I wanna go around and gnome. I wanna go gnome people. You've been gnome, you've been liberated. Yeah, so if you own a garden gnome, you better keep a close eye on it, you know, in recent years garden dwellers have developed a reputation for going AWOL. Yeah, so the practice of gnome just involves borrowing a garden gnome from a nearby resident, taking it on vacation, sending a photo to the owner in exotic like locations,

and eventually the gnome is always reunited with its owner after its adventure. Oh okay. Yeah, so the first record and recorded incident of gnoming was in 1986. In 1986, so this was before the the garden gnome liberation front, but in 1986, a garden gnome in Sydney, Australia was stolen. The crime was reported. And the gnome was, they named the gnome Bilbo. Yeah. Yeah. And he left a note behind that said,

Dear Mum, Put in stand the solitude any longer. Gone off to see the world. Don't be worried. I'll be back soon. Love, Bilbo. That is so cute. Yeah. So in 2007, Love, Bilbo. That is so cute. Yeah.

So, in 2007, in the UK, a gnome named Murphy ended up traveling to 12 different countries. Damn! Yeah! So... Murphy gets around more than I do. That's what I was gonna say too. Crazy. So Murphy's owner, Eve, was also stunned because he received pictures of Murphy swimming, riding

motorcycles. It was like the high profile traveling gnome case. So there was another one taken from Washington that was given a free trip to California and Las Vegas and on this travel the gnome, this gnome was named Severson. I have the link here. No, I don't. But if you look it up, this gnome actually ended in People's Magazine with Paris Hilton. Damn! Yeah, so Paris Hilton was holding her Chihuahua in one hand, and this gnome on the other. That's so funny. Oh, it's me a garden gnome.

Yeah. So eventually, you know, he was returned to his owner. And of course, they made national news. There was an interview in Good Morning America. The person that took Murphy the gnome was Connor. And he admitted to taking the gnome on spring break with a group of buddies and he explained that they ran into, um, Paris Hilton at a gas station, um, trailed by paparazzi. So I think that's kind of where, like, they talked a little, she took the gnome for, like, a while and somehow she got it back to them.

I love it. Yeah. I love the evolution of gnoming, of like liberating. It went from them literally like being so done with their lives that they committed mass suicide to being stolen away forever and used for like political displays to now it's just like yeah we're just going to take a little gnome on a ride and then we'll bring him back to you in a couple weeks. Yeah. Like he just wants to see the world. I also have a little heartwarming story for a gnome that made also headlines.

So Bev York from Victoria, British Columbia, as you can see we're going all over the world, noticed that her garden gnome went missing one day. But little did she know that her gnome would be named by the kidnappers or the liberators, Leopold the traveling gnome. Yeah, and he had embarked in an epic eight month road trip Yeah Yeah, Leopold's adventure took him from Vancouver Island to Mexico's Baja Peninsula And when he was finally reunited with his owner Something came back with Leopold any guesses No something came back with Leopold. Any guesses? No.

So what ended up coming back with Leopold was pretty much an album with pictures from his trip. That's cool. So I'm sending the link right now. You can see him chilling in the sand. You can like you can also see the owner, like if you go down, like he got like buried in the sand. I think he went to like the Grand Canyon. Yeah, the Grand Canyon. It's so funny. Like a margarita. So that's Leopold.

Margarita. So that's Leopold. What is so, you know, the owner, you know, Miss York far from being offended. She was delighted by her garden Gnome's adventure. And yeah, she loved it and there's a little cute funny note at the end that says remember adventure before dementia. I guess it's something to live by.

Yeah. So yeah, that's the Garden Gnome Liberation Front, the great gnome escape, gnoming. So yeah, listeners, Kai Alexis, let's hear from you. I don't know, have you ever encountered like a liberated gnome? Have you been part of a gnome heist? I would love to be. Yeah. So just go ahead and like listeners share them with us if you do.

Otherwise, thank you for listening. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for telling. That was fun. Sorry that I left thinking it was a dark story. No, no, no, no. No, yeah, that was crazy. Like, if my jaw could have dropped more, it would have. But you saved it. Starting with 11. A mass suicide with 11 bodies. Yeah. And then you were like, uh, like nine to 12 inches or whatever, like six to nine inches. And I was like, Oh, okay. Yeah. I wasn't sure where to start it. I was like, do I like start with just the gnomes and the acronym or like, do I like start with like the quote unquote mass suicide? I think the suicide was a good was a good

start. Yeah. Yeah. Good attention grabber. Yeah. Yeah. So that's it for my story. Hope you enjoyed it. Cool. Yeah. I was just going to cover that what did I call it? The the great gnome escape which is what ended up happening in france and then i started researching like the gnome liberation front and i'm like wait i was like this is a rabbit hole that i don't know if i want to go down and i did good job i'm so glad you did I'm so glad you did. The photos with like, it kind of reminded me, yeah, it kind of reminded me. One of my guests on my tour, he, it was a mom and a daughter. I didn't realize until we went into Gable that the daughter had a backpack, but the backpack wasn't actually a backpack.

It was straps like attached to a cheese ball jar. What? Yeah. I think I had a stroke. Can you say that again? It was like backpack straps attached to a cheeseball jar. Oh, like one of those big jars? Yeah.

The big bottle with the plastic jars? With cheeseballs in it. You know, like the creme, crunchy cheeseballs, like cheese puffs? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I'm just, I'm just, this girl got to have her cheese puffs. And she takes it everywhere, like every trip she goes to it's like a tradition So I was like, oh, it's kind of cute. Okay, the more you know

Yeah, I was like well She I mean, it's definitely unique These balls these balls these balls unique. Cheese balls. Cheese balls. Cheese balls. Well thank you. Thank you. Come back in next week. Not next week. Next week we have old news nonsense. Y'all come back now you hear. In episode 15 we're having a special guest. So tune back in for that. Be very special. I like a fun one so. Yeah. It's gonna be fun. What were you gonna say? Paris, San Espanol, Alexis. Oh I am? Okay. I'm just asking. Alexis. Oh, I am. OK, I'm just asking.

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