Chambers of the Occult - Old News Nonsense Vol. 11

Episode Date: November 27, 2024

In Old News Nonsense Vol. 11, we kick things off with a chilling tale of Mrs. Rebecca Senpz, who shocked mourners by sitting up in her coffin mid-wake after being declared dead. Talk about an unforget...table entrance!Next, a seven-story-tall T-Rex hot air balloon buzzes Calgary, stealing the show at the Kodak Balloon Festival and proving dinosaurs still dominate — even in the skies.A 9-year-old “cigaret fiend” leaves a courtroom stunned with her heavy smoking habit, earning her a spot in the headlines for all the wrong reasons.Switching to a heartfelt note, a 16-year-old girl shares her struggle to cope with an alcoholic mother in a touching letter that sheds light on addiction’s toll on families.We then hop into controversy with The Rabbits’ Wedding, a children’s book featuring interracial bunny love banned in Alabama for being “too provocative.” Who knew bunnies could spark such drama?Feeling chilly? Cozy up with a tale of sweaters, from hand-knit creations to matching outfits for dogs and humans. Nothing says love like a good knit.Next, an outdated guide hilariously advises women on “10 Ways to Remain a Spinster,” offering gems like developing a nasally voice and arguing about equal rights. Follow the rules, and matrimony will never find you!Finally, we wrap up with the Tamagotchi craze of the 1990s, where virtual pets taught us the meaning of guilt and devotion, one pixelated cry at a time.Tune in to Old News Nonsense Vol. 11 for a wild ride through headlines that are equal parts bizarre and brilliant!Send us a text

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Starting point is 00:00:47 Who knows? Only you will know. If you're watching. Not if you're listening. Episode, Old News Nonsense, volume 11. 1111. I like that number. It's pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:00:57 Thanks for being here. Thanks for coming back. Thanks for having me. I'm going to go to bed. I'm going to go to bed. I'm going to go to bed. I'm going to go to bed. I'm going to go to bed. I'm going to go to bed. I'm going to go to bed. I'm going to go to bed. I'm going to go to bed. listening. Episode, Old News Nonsense, volume 11. 11, one one.
Starting point is 00:01:07 I like that number, it's pretty cool. Thanks for being here, thanks for coming back. Yeah, it's been a journey. It's been a bit since our last Old News Nonsense. Yeah. We're doing them once a month now, we're trying. So let us know. So, let us know. It's surprisingly difficult to find good newspaper articles.
Starting point is 00:01:31 So, yeah. And the more we cover, the more we do the solved news nonsense, the less we have to find. Yeah. So we're thinking that if we cut back to once a month, twice a month, it should help? Yeah, and also make it a little bit of a bonus. It's a paranormal and true crime podcast. And like you end the month off on like a funny, relaxed note, not like... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:57 ...true crime. Not murder. Shit. And like plates flying off a shelf and things like that. plates flying off a shelf and things like that. Yeah, anyway, we need your help more than ever. If you have newspaper articles you want us to cover. Oh, okay, I was gonna be like, with what? Yeah, if you have anything you want us to cover, let us know.
Starting point is 00:02:16 It does help us a lot. When we're done with this, I'll give you some tips that I recently discovered on the website to how to find some easier, some of them a little bit easier. Okay. But yeah, we'll talk about that later. I'm always down for some tips. Yeah. Cool.
Starting point is 00:02:32 But yeah, let's get started this week. Yeah. You want to start us off? I'll start you guys off, kind of last week, and then we'll switch it up. I tried really hard to stay away from animals. Me too, but like, it just happened. There's always at least one. There's always at least one. And in my stories, there's one story with animals. I was able to like, get the other ones to be not related to animals? Technically, two of mine are, but also are not at the same
Starting point is 00:03:10 time. So, okay. Well, fine. Anyway, so I'm intrigued. Yeah. So we're here for a good laugh. What's more funny than a corpse not being dead? Zombies are kind of scary I don't know. Well yeah yeah this headline so this is from the Modesto morning Herald in Modesto California so we're starting in California and this is from June 17th, 1922. Good year. Good year. And it just starts with the headline.
Starting point is 00:03:50 It's a year. It's a year. Yeah. It's a good year for this lady though, because it says, Corpse spoils wake, refuses to stay dead. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:04 So even though California covered it, it took place in New York, and it says, New York, June 16th. An hour after she had been prepared for burial today, Ms. Rebecca Semps sat up in her coffin. Physicians
Starting point is 00:04:22 were summoned by the women's children and relatives this afternoon, and at five o'clock after she had suffered a paralytic stroke, she was pronounced dead. Ice was packed about her body and candles were lightened. Neighbors who came in to console the women's children, were standing about the coffin. When the body stirred, Mrs. Semps set up and asked for a drink. She was like,
Starting point is 00:04:54 Yeah, they said, actually, can I get a glass of wine? Yeah. That was crazy. Physicians said that she will recover. Good. Now, this is quite a short one, but I was able to find a second one about the exact
Starting point is 00:05:11 same lady, about the exact same scenario, so we can get some more insight into it. And this one is, this is the New York one. This is the Evening World New York, New York, Saturday, June 17th, 1922. And this one starts by saying, well, the headline of this one, it says, quote, unquote, dead woman revives as body is packed with ice. Mrs. Semps was supposed to have passed on after her paralytic stroke. The relatives and friends of Mrs. Rebecca Semps, 65-year-old, assemble about her home and once again, they give everyone's address out of newspapers.
Starting point is 00:06:02 It's weird. Number 28 Lewis Street. To celebrate a chavez of joy as for one return to them from the dead. They had gathered about her in morning yesterday evening. They had been told that she could live, but a few hours after her third paralytic stroke. She became unconscious at five o'clock and the physician said the physician and undertaker were hurriedly called. The undertaker arrived before the doctor to attend and brought in an oak box. The body was placed in it and then ice was packed about it and a sheet laid over it to keep the body until Monday. So don't die on a weekend. It convenience everyone.
Starting point is 00:06:53 No, okay. So she died on the weekend and they're like she quote unquote died on the weekend. And they were like, oh, like I'm supposed to be off. And I was like, whatever, just pack her to be off and I was like whatever just pack her up I'll do it on Monday. They like didn't they were so lazy Yeah, didn't even check to see if she was actually dead. No, I was somewhat pronounced her dad somewhat pronounced her dad I mean the undertaker got there before the doctor so I assume you want to wait But they're clearly on some time schedule to like pack her with ice and let's move on
Starting point is 00:07:24 you want to wait, but they're clearly on some time schedule to like pack her with ice and let's move on. Yep. Yep. It continues by saying, neighbors who heard to console the family were astonished to see the end of the sheet at Mrs. Semp's feet begin to move. It was lifted up. Her feet were twitching. Dr. Zaglin arrived. She isn't dead, he said. She has a good heart action and her respiration is almost normal. The ice revived her. How does that work? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:08:05 I don't think the ice revived her. I just don't think she was ever dead. No, I think if anything the ice woke her up, she's like, I was sleeping. I'm shocked her back. Yeah, it's like it got really cold. So cold. Yeah. Mrs. Semps opened her eyes and murmured, Where am I?
Starting point is 00:08:23 She was taken from the box and placed in bed. It was set last night. It was set that last night she progressed nicely. And that's all. Okay. Well, good for her. Yeah. I'm glad she wasn't dead. So sorry to disappoint, not really night of the living dead, just dead refusing to stay dead. I don't know if it's like a narcissistic thing, but like something I've thought about in the past was like, how would people, like, I want to know how people
Starting point is 00:08:54 would react when I die. I want to make everyone cry. And this lady, she kind of got to experience that. True. Not like a full-on funeral. She got to see what people like, how they reacted because she died. Yeah. No, no. It was written on the newspaper. Everyone talked about it. The neighbors talked about it. I want to know if there was someone that when she woke up was like, aww.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Like disappointed? Yeah. Yeah. Which would suck, but at the same time, now that you're awake, you're like, okay, you were glad I died, so you're off the wheel. It's like, yeah, we're not friends anymore. I don't know. Yeah. It's not, I wouldn't call it like she faked her death because I just think it's misdiagnosed. It's just what happened, yeah. Like she tried faking her death. It just... It happened. It happened that way, I guess. Yeah, like she faking her death. It just it happened happened that way. I guess yeah, I don't know But yeah from corpses not staying dead. What do you have for us Kai?
Starting point is 00:09:53 um, I have The first of my animal but not so animal stories is it a pinata but not so animal stories? Is it a piñata? In the same vein. It's sort of similar. Okay. Kind of. Not really.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Okay, so, I just took a trip to Canada, and this is very fitting because this is from the Calgary Herald from Calgary, Alberta, Canada. This was published on Monday, February 15th, 1988. I guess at that time the Olympics were held in Calgary at the time. The 1988 Olympics were there. So there's like a whole Parade or whatever. Anyway, this one it says aerial dinosaur
Starting point is 00:10:53 buzzes Calgary. Was that their mascot that year? Yeah, I mean the Calgary's mascot has always been like dinosaurs, I think. Okay. For some reason like the University of Calgary, they're called the dinos's mascot has always been like dinosaurs, I think. Okay. For some reason. Like the University of Calgary, they're called the dinos. Mm-hmm. And like...
Starting point is 00:11:12 So that's why you're like kind of an animal, but like... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Okay, so... A seven-story tall... Tyrannosaurus rex... Rampaged through Thorncliffe Heights Sunday on the trail of Olympic gold. Startled residents watch as the ferocious green beast,
Starting point is 00:11:35 actually a hot air balloon, participating in the first Kodak Balloon Festival launch, landed in a ravine near Deerfoot trail at Blackthorn Road, Northeast. It's what I imagined. Well, you said like seven feet, and then you said rampage. I'm like... Seven stories. Yeah, seven stories. Seven stories. That's huge. That's huge.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Yo. Yo. And so when you said... That's the apartments next door. Kinda. That's how tall... That's how tall it was before the earthquake. Yeah. That's crazy. If you know, you know. Seven story. That's big though. That is huge. It continues with a quote. It was a monstrous thing said Frank Gill of Peachland, British Columbia, who is visiting
Starting point is 00:12:27 son Mike during the Olympics. I was awed. I have never seen a balloon that big in my life. I haven't either. Mike, 29, washed as a dinosaur's tail, hit a no parking sign. Then the claws started wiggling and the head lurched forward as the balloon collapsed and pilot Tom Sage of Bristol, England clambered out of the basket. Wait, what? What basket?
Starting point is 00:12:58 Like since it's a hot air balloon. Oh, okay. Okay. There's like the basket at the bottom of it. Yeah. So it was the heat So it was just like I Thought when you said like it hit like a stop sign or like yeah, I was gonna be like it's gonna pop It's gonna go down But it's not gonna down without a fight Yeah, festival organizer harold warner said the landing of the balloon which is not built to fly at high altitudes Was perfectly normal and
Starting point is 00:13:26 safe. Sage said he'd, quote, had a nice flight over Calgary and found a nice big field to land in, end quote. A small rip in the dinosaur's tail will be repaired by today's launch. The dinosaur got the most reaction from the estimated 4,000 spectators gathered at the Shagan-Epi Golf Course launch site Sunday morning. 4,000 people came to watch this thing. I also assume it was probably their biggest one. Probably, yeah. The 40-meter tall balloon, manufactured in England and making its maiden Canadian flight, slowly inflated then flew skyward to cheers and clapping. It joined 130 other multicolored hot air balloons that formed a spectacular airborne parade in the sky over Calgary.
Starting point is 00:14:16 A spinoff to the numerous Olympic festivities in and around the city. So yeah, you are right. There was a bunch of other hot air balloons that were... But this was probably the biggest... ...the seven story tall dinosaur. So yeah, you are right, there was a bunch of other hot air balloons that were with us as well. But this was probably the biggest. But there was this seven story tall dinosaur. Yeah. I feel like if you're already up there and you see this dinosaur come up, you're just like, let's make way.
Starting point is 00:14:31 What the fuck? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. But get out of the way! Oh my god. I would love to see that though. Ah!
Starting point is 00:14:39 Me too. Me too. So it says, Beth Strobel of Calgary brought sons Mike 9 and Mark 7 to see Mickey Mouse take flight. An excited Mike Wilson, 4, of Calgary told his father, I want to go up in one. Wilson was impressed that there were so many balloons different than the ones usually seen in the skies above the city. Canada's hot air balloon capital.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Calgary's Canada's hot air balloon capital? I didn't actually even know that. Well, now we know. Fact of the day. Other special shaped balloons included a coffee can, looks like an R, a coffee can, and a film can. Hundreds of tripods were set up around the launch field as camera buffs snapped pictures of the biggest
Starting point is 00:15:24 hot air balloon festival ever held in Canada. So there's pictures out there of that dinosaur somewhere. There are yeah and I it actually has a picture of it. Nice. The article itself. Okay. So yeah you guys will get the listeners viewers you'll get to get to see. Nice that's exciting. There's a little bit more. So Leanne Rodway a member of the Foothills Camera Club, had her camera at the ready to take pictures of the color and the people. The first mass launch of the Kodak Balloon Festival, designed to add to the festive atmosphere of the 15th Olympic Winter Games, got off just ahead of strong Chinook winds Saturday.
Starting point is 00:16:10 105 pilots from 11 countries were disappointed when stronger winds canceled a mass launch over McMahon Stadium during the opening ceremony. Yeah. Weather permitting between eight and 10 a.m. from today to February 23rd, the Balloon Festival features a colorful mass ascent from the main launch site at the golf course. It's free. The site features a carnival-like atmosphere with entertainment, rowing mascots, food,
Starting point is 00:16:28 and souvenir booths. That sounds fun. That does really sound fun. Yeah. But that's the article. Thank you. The hot air balloon festival, the parade to- Go Calgary.
Starting point is 00:16:40 To the celebration of the Olympics there. Yeah. I think Calgary Should do another one, but they should another like a little bit taller. Well that too, but like they should make an even bigger Break, you know make it bigger than like this year. Have it be a 10 story Yes, they need to they need a sort of petition. I'm gonna let all my Canadian friends Honestly, just everyone. Just be like, hey, here's a petition. Let's bring it back. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:17:11 No, I'm glad. Thank you. That's the article. I have one from Minnesota. Love Minnesota. Cool place. Now, this is from the Star Tribune Minneapolis in Minnesota. Tuesday, March 30th, 1909. Question, as it's related to the clipping. How do you feel about cigarettes?
Starting point is 00:17:49 I think they look cool. I think smoking them looks really cool. Like if you like if you're there and you're like nonchalant and you're chilling and you're just like puffing on a cigarette and you're like, oh, I think you look cool as fuck. But I also hate cigarettes. OK, they're terrible. And like, I'll never smoke them. Got it. So you can appreciate the aesthetics. I can appreciate the aesthetics of hate cigarettes. I don't think they're terrible and I'll never smoke them. Got it. So you can appreciate the aesthetics. I can appreciate the aesthetics of smoking cigarettes, but in actuality, no.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Fair. Same. But, saying that, cool. I guess this nine-year-old girl looked pretty fun and cool smoking a cigarette. OK, wait, when was this? This was 1909. OK, so it was like normal for nine-year-olds to smoke cigarettes back then. I don't think so. Let's not normalize children smoking cigarettes. Oh, I'm not normalizing it.
Starting point is 00:18:38 No, no, like even if it's 1909. Over a hundred years ago, it was normalized. The title of this article just says, nine-year-old girl, a cigarette fiend. Oh God. So they were already not happy with this. So like, you know, yeah, I think everyone could agree cigarettes are not good for you,
Starting point is 00:18:57 but like it is what it is when you're an adult. But as a nine-year-old, what do you do? That sucks. Where's your gum? Where's the lollipop? Where are your parents? Yeah, well, we're gonna find out. Ooh, okay.
Starting point is 00:19:11 It's not as long as my previous one or yours. It's a little shorter. The other clip-ins will get a little bit longer, but this is the best place to throw it in as anywhere. It says a nine-year-old girl who is a habitual smoker was a sensation in juvenile court yesterday. The child's mother is said to have allowed the girl to use tobacco without restraints. Okay. Some kids play with Barbie dolls. My child smokes a cigarette.
Starting point is 00:19:47 Yeah. Great parenting. The girl smoker was taken in on a dependence charge, it being alleged to her mother that is not a proper person to take care of her. And her habitual use of cigarettes was then discovered. The little girl will probably be sent to the state of school in Owatona. Cigarette smoking is a serious menace to the boys who are growing," said Judge John D. Smith. And then he continues by saying, I can tell the boys who use cigarettes when they are brought into the court even before they are questioned.
Starting point is 00:20:25 They are shifty and they won't look straight in the eye. They are nervous and their hands have the yellow stain. Yeah. Upon inquiry, it is found that the boys had been good students until recently when they began to use cigarettes. Now they can't keep their minds on their books and they are backwards in their lessons. And that is all. I tried finding more on this but it's a minor so there was no name given out. There was no name of the mother. Good. First of all, good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:02 First of all good. Yeah, but also Hmm cigarettes bad. Yes however Are the cigarettes really the reason they're like turned upside down in school or is just because they don't care like I just think Yeah, like I don't think that's the cigarettes use. I think that's like Kids being kids kids that are not being raised right? Being kids? It's once again, I think like the whole like correlation thing. It's like just because they smoke doesn't mean that they're not interested in school.
Starting point is 00:21:34 This is true. But yeah. Anyway. So we got a smoking child. Well, we had a smoking child in our hand. It's been a- I hope we have no more. How wouldn't that be nice?
Starting point is 00:21:46 If you smoke, reconsider your life choices, please. Get help. That too, yeah, actually. I mean, we all know they're bad. I think it, I'm gonna go on a little tangent. I think it's- Go for it. Just related to it, like, we know it's bad, but like people still do it. Like we know it's bad, but like people still do it.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Like we know McDonald's it's bad, but we still go to McDonald's. That's a stretch of whatever it's called, but you know what, I get it, I get it. I've watched Supersize Me, don't correct me, Kai. Supersize Me, he like, he eats every single day. Yeah, breakfast, lunch, dinner. If you eat McDonald's like twice a week,
Starting point is 00:22:32 you're gonna be fine. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Whatever. I mean, we also don't know how often this girl smoked, but then again, she was nine. I mean, but if you're nine years old and you're smoking, you're probably smoking every day. And it's also like you're still developing.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Like don't put that in your body. If you smoke, yes, it looks cool, but that shit sucks. So you should probably like stop. You also smell really bad. Yeah. Like you think you can hide the smell, you don't. The amount of like people in high school
Starting point is 00:23:07 that would like spray themselves, like douse themselves with perfume after smoking weed and the teacher would still be able to call them out was wild. No, yeah. Like you were not hiding that shit. My junior year, my English teacher, he was like the football coach and he also taught English.
Starting point is 00:23:24 And he was a very chill teacher, he was like the football coach and he also taught English. And he was a very chill teacher, like if he did the work. But the one like rule that I remember he said, it's like, if you're going to like be smoking like pot outside of class or like before class, he's like, I don't care. He's like, as long as you try to cover it up. If you show up and you smell like straight up reefer, like I'm kicking you out to the principal's office. If you come in here and you like douse yourself with cologne, perfume, whatever, it's like, okay, cool. You try to cover it up. Welcome to class. But yeah. It's just gross. It's just gross. Everyone can smell it. Yeah, especially cigarettes. I grew up in a family of smokers. Like some of them still do and it's just like, ugh. Yeah, cigarettes are a big turnoff.
Starting point is 00:24:04 In the same vein of like cigarettes and Some of them still do and it's like, yeah. Cigarettes are a big turnoff. In the same vein of like cigarettes and, you know, drugs and whatever. I have my next article here, which is to be honest, is kind of sad. But the reason it fits into old news nonsense is because it is so Crazy that this was even a newspaper article like why was this published? Oh, oh Yeah, okay. Okay. Let's see where this goes like you can't see it, but like my hands are like ready for this so this is like a like So this is like a like, this was posted, published through the San Francisco Examiner in San Francisco, California on Monday, August 6, 1962.
Starting point is 00:24:55 And so this was in sort of like an advice column type of thing. Like you write into it and then they reply. Yeah. Okay. So it's called The Good Neighbor, I guess. The title of this one is Mother Drinks Too Much. Okay. I'll let you continue. A problem parent can be a sad burden
Starting point is 00:25:19 to a sensitive adolescent. Yes. Quote, Dorothy writes, Dear Anita Day Hubbard. Anita Day Hubbard, I believe, is the person who's responding. Yeah, I forgot their name. But yeah, yeah. So this person, Dorothy, is her name. She says, quote, I am 16 and my brother is 15. I am writing for both of us. The difficulty is my mother. She drinks. Our father is getting disgusted with her
Starting point is 00:25:48 and I can't blame him. She is generally drunk by the time he gets home. So for the last month, he has been staying downtown for dinner and not coming home until late. That makes my mother mad at him and she drinks even more than ever. I know we should try to love her, but how can we?
Starting point is 00:26:07 She sleeps all morning and then gets up and slops around in a moomoo all afternoon with her hair every which way. I don't know what a moomoo is by the way. I think... I've heard it before and I think I know what it looks like. It's just like a... sleeping dress. Oh, it's like a big like nightgown thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Yeah. Okay. I don't know why it's called a moomoo if it's like a nickname. Moomoo, it's like a big nightgown thing. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I don't know why it's called a Mumu if it's like a nickname. Mumu, it's a fun name. Yeah. Anyway, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:32 With her hair every which way. Of course, we can't have our friends come to the house and we have to make all kinds of excuses to them. Other kids have nice, neat mothers they are proud of and they like to have their kids bring their friends home. The trouble is that when my mother is not drinking, she's a very nice person and quite pretty too. This is a small town and everybody knows
Starting point is 00:26:55 about everybody else. It is pretty hard for my brother and me to live like this. My brother and I try to keep the house clean and we cook for ourselves all right. In fact, I'm a pretty good cook. My brother keeps a lawn cut and watered and we both manage the washing pretty well. My brother is very good for a boy. What can we do about our mother?
Starting point is 00:27:15 Sometimes she can be wonderful, but mostly she is terrible. Wow, that's sad. Yeah. And so there's the response to it. I'll read it in just a second. Yeah, yeah, go for it. No, it's just gonna be like, that's sad. I. And so there's the response to it. I'll read in just a second. Yeah, yeah, go for it. Go ahead. No, it's just gonna be like, that's sad. I'm like...
Starting point is 00:27:29 It is, right? But I'm also like, it's crazy that this was published in a public newspaper article, right? She didn't say her name, did she? Like the girl? Dorothy. Oh, Dorothy, that's it. But small town, they're gonna be like, Dorothy with a brother and a drunken mom. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:46 I think, yeah. People are probably going to know, I don't know. Nowadays, we don't know who you are, Dorothy. But back in that time, that took a lot of guts. Yeah. So Anita, the columnist who's writing this, wrote, Dear Dorothy, if you can realize that your mother is sick as she undoubtedly must be Perhaps it will be a little easier for you to help her It may be some comfort to know that many other young people are trying to cope with your sad problem With your sad problem and are finding help in an organization called allateens for the teenage children of alcoholics Oh, the work of alcoholics anonymous, which is for people with a drinking problem of their own and al anon for the families of
Starting point is 00:28:28 alcoholics So they went into actual like serious sources like resources. That's nice. So I didn't know that was a group You didn't send me your address or your name or I could have told you where to find the nearest chapter You can write me again or send directly to alatean, Box 182, Madison Square Station, New York 10, New York. Be sure to send your address when you write. In the meantime, let your father know that you appreciate his problems and that you are ready to help in every way. Try to separate your natural distaste for your mother's habits from your basic love for her. But do write again so I can give you a more personal and private answer in a letter just for you. That's some good advice.
Starting point is 00:29:09 That is some good advice. I would say like it's very like neutral, like unbiased in a way. It's like, here's the resources. But you've also written that like you do love your mother. She's a good person. Try to separate her from like her behavior Yeah, like that's something I like as well like trying to separate the person from the behavior that I don't like because it's like
Starting point is 00:29:32 Whatever. Mm-hmm. No, that's a really good advice But yeah, I once it not like the funniest article, but I read it and I was like, huh, like that's so It's off. I was not expecting to read it as a published piece of a news article, but also, I don't know. No, thank you. That's good. I appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Yeah. Take it away. I have... I'm gonna do the animal ones right now, cause why not? So this one, did you ever, okay, when you think of rabbits, like a little white rabbit and a little black rabbit, what do you think of? I think of how cute they are. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:28 I think of how rabbits are adorable. But a black and white rabbit specifically like together? Yeah, like if they were like in a children's book. Oh, they like they like a husband and wife. They like a glove. They're two little rabbits in love. Your head doesn't go to segregation. No.
Starting point is 00:30:48 What? No. Okay, no, no, I know, I know. I know that your head would never go there. No, I know, that's crazy, okay. Because it says that, okay, so this is from the News Messenger, Fremont, Ohio, Friday, May 22nd, 1959. And it's actually covering something that happened
Starting point is 00:31:09 in Alabama. And it says, no hidden message. White rabbit, black rabbit, wed, and juvenile book. So Alabama children are not permitted to read it. That's crazy. Oh yeah, yeah. And it starts with saying, a book for young children about a white rabbit
Starting point is 00:31:33 marrying a black rabbit has drawn protest in Alabama. It was withdrawn from general public library, circulating because segregationists complained that it reflected pro-integration views. The book is The Rabbit's Wedding, published by Harper Bros. Last year for children between the ages of three and seven. It was written and illustrated in color by Garth Williams. The story tells of the marriage of the black and white rabbits at a moonlight wedding attended by all the other
Starting point is 00:32:14 animals in the forest. So once again, it's what you thought it's like, yeah, black and white rabbit. They're rabbits in love. But of course because it's fucking Alabama Durin segregation racist motherfuckers Now okay, I think you just offended our Alabama people I don't give a fuck Isn't will from Alabama, oh he hates Alabama, right? That's why he came here. Anyway... Yeah. Um, it continues by saying,
Starting point is 00:32:51 order removed after criticism of the book, uh, first appearance, Miss Emily Wheelock Reed, director of the Alabama Public Library Service Division, longest title, um, which lends book to other libraries through the state, ordered the book to be placed on the agency's reserved shelves. Ms. Reed said that the Rabbit book had not been banned, but merely withdrawn from general circulation.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Librarians seeking the volume for their local libraries may obtain it now by only specific request. Some still carry it on their open shelves, Ms. Reed said. She said she and members of her staff had received complaints about the book and that members of the legislative… no, members of the legislature… Legislature? Yeah. Sean E.O. Edens questioned it.
Starting point is 00:34:03 She said it isn't unusual to take books out of general circulation in public libraries and that it isn't always for racial reasons. Okay. Meanwhile, the publishers issued a statement from the author saying that the book has no political significance. Williams, now in California, added the statement, I was completely unaware that animals with white fur, such as white polar bears and white dogs and white rabbits, were considered blood relations of white beings. I was only aware that a white horse next to a black horse looks very picturesque.
Starting point is 00:34:47 William said that his story was not written for adults. He said that they will not understand it because it's only about soft furry love and it has no hidden messages of hate. It's about soft furry love. Yeah. It's about soft furry love. Yeah. And then it ends by saying, available here, the Rabbit Wedding, removed from shelves if Montgomery, Alabama Library
Starting point is 00:35:11 is available at Burchard Public Library, Ms. Haley Grimm's librarian set today. And that is all. But yeah, I read this and I'm like, of course people would complain about a book about rabbits. Of course they're going to, yeah. And like, Alabama and all those fucking southern states are like trying to ban so many books and it's so crazy.
Starting point is 00:35:39 I don't know. This was like 50 years ago and like now it's happening again. And it's still happening. Yes. I wonder why. and now it's happening again. And it's still happening! Yes! I wonder why. I wonder who's doing that. I don't know. Who was alive 50 years ago that was alive this... Oh my god. The same people that are banning the books.
Starting point is 00:35:55 Oh my god. I sure hope our next president doesn't want to ban any books. Whoa. Oh my god. We'll see how... Anyway, not to get political. Also, like, historically, haven't the people banning books and burning them been on the wrong side of history?
Starting point is 00:36:14 Yes. So why are we still doing it? Because they're stupid. Why are we not reading those history books? Oh, because they banned them. Anyway, Guy, take us away. Away from Alabama, please. Away from Alabama. Okay, I'm gonna take us somewhere
Starting point is 00:36:33 like very different. So we have like one end of like the spectrum, which is Alabama, right? And then we have like the other end of the spectrum. This wasn't planned, this is just working out this way. Okay. the other end of the spectrum this wasn't planned. This is just working out this way Okay, the other end of the spectrum is Santa Cruz, California. Oh, yes. Oh, yes This is from the Santa Cruz Sentinel Santa Cruz, California Sunday December 4th 1988, okay Now this article, its title is, Hug Me. Okay. Sweaters bring you in out of the cold, even when you're not outdoors. When I see a man in a sweater, it makes me wanna hug him.
Starting point is 00:37:33 A woman friend remarked when she learned I was writing about sweaters. Okay. Sadly, I was not sweater clad at the time. Although I was sure to wear one the next day, discretion prevents my disclosing with what result. Sweaters not only feel good, they are good to feel. Like kittens and puppies, they are warm and soft.
Starting point is 00:37:55 They come in an unending profusion of colors, patterns, and textures. They come as pullovers, vests, or with buttoned or zippered fronts, with weaves tight enough to shun wind and water, or open and soft enough to, well, attract hugs. People clothe their dogs in sweaters, knit sweaters for friends and themselves, vie for the latest sweater fashions in trendy stores. And all those sweaters are often associated with ski slopes and snowy climbs. True as well. Where gaggles of sweater-clad athletes gather around,
Starting point is 00:38:33 a crackling blaze, gripping mugs of mulled wine, and trading tales of speed and adventure. The seldom remarked fact is that snow-free Santa Cruz enjoys a perfect sweater climate of its own. I do agree. How they use the word gaggle. I love gaggle. That's why I stopped and I laughed for a second. We need to start using that word again.
Starting point is 00:38:57 A gaggle of geese. Is that what it is? I don't know. A gaggle of listeners. That's what you guys? I don't know. A gaggle of listeners. That's what you guys are. Oh my God. Quote, they can be worn in Santa Cruz all year round, end quote, says Barbara Scott, a knitting instructor and inveterate sweater maker. Quote, in the cold weather, you can wear them inside and save on your PG and E bill. And in the summer, you can wear them inside and save on your PG and E-bill.
Starting point is 00:39:25 And in the summer you can wear them outdoors. This is true. Yep. Sweaters are never out of fashion, but they have enjoyed a particular surge of popularity in the last couple of years, owing in part to that fashion pace setter, Bill Cosby. Oh! Wait, wait. They brought up Bill Cosby. It's 1988. Yeah, wait. They brought up Bill Cosby and it's 1988. Yeah, yeah. He's a cool guy still at that point in time. Yeah, but I'm just like, how do we get people to pay attention? Bill Cosby.
Starting point is 00:39:55 Bill Cosby. Fair. Sweaters are never... Cosby, the funny and sensitive star of television's perennially top-rated family sitcom often wears sweaters with bright or intricate patterns. Peter Voukos of The Men's Room in Capitola says, quote, about a year ago, with all the publicity that the Cosby show got, it sparked a revolution in the sweater industry and everybody is trying to outdo everybody else in terms of bright, unusual patterns and a lot of different textures.
Starting point is 00:40:26 I love this. It just became its trend. It did. It like ugly sweater party, but like year round, and not necessarily ugly, just like sweater party. But sweaters, different colors, patterns, whatever, yeah. Yeah. Voko says 60% of the sweaters he sells are fancy, including handmade cash mirrors as costly
Starting point is 00:40:51 as $500. Oof. Oof. Wait, can you look up $500 in 1988? Okay, yeah. $500 in 1988. Inflation calculator. in 1988 inflation calculator that would be $1,334 today which for a cashmere sweater is not too far off question mark no I mean it's it's it's expensive but
Starting point is 00:41:19 like that makes sense cashmere is crazy expensive. Anyway, but he adds, quote, 40% of our sweater sales are in basic styles and colors. V-necks, sweater vests, the majority are in the 60 to $100 range. People who knit their own sweaters are turning out fancier garments as well. Isa Lawton of The Knitting Nest in Aptis confirms, quote, mohair and angora, all these beautiful fibers are very popular, end quote, she says.
Starting point is 00:41:50 Quote, the yarns are becoming more and more unbelievable. They have gold threads, bright colors with a black background. A lot of different fibers we didn't see when I started knitting as a young girl in France. Most people don't have to be very experienced to produce a fairly fancy sweater, Lawn says. They buy a yarn that has all these exciting things going on. I wish I knew how to knit a sweater.
Starting point is 00:42:14 That would be really cool. I would love to knit a sweater. I learned as a child how to crochet, and I forgot that skill. Over the past two years, I've, on and off, I've taken up crocheting and I've abandoned skill. Over the past like two years, I've on and off, I've like taken up crocheting and I've abandoned it. Yeah. And I like, so I know how to make like the simplest things,
Starting point is 00:42:32 but like I've always wanted to get good at crocheting, but I just never have. Same, yeah. Anyway, knitting goes way back in Terry Spod, like Spodak's family, but she has been knitting seriously herself for about the last five years. I find it very meditative. I totally zonk out, says Spodnik, president of Santa Cruz Downtown Association.
Starting point is 00:42:58 Plus being a size 4, I find it very hard to find exciting, unusual things that fit. Spodnik's solution is to handcraft her own knit garments, mainly sweaters. Love that. Sweaters for dogs are a popular item in Santa Cruz, particularly in the season of winter chill. We sell a lot of sweaters beginning now, says Annie Singer of Shampoo Ches, a pet grooming and supply store. It's a big item for Christmas with the whole cold weather coming There are all different colors all different styles. She says summer knit some are a plaid flannel
Starting point is 00:43:34 And that's where it ends nice people are still buying sweaters for their dogs I love that and I don't think honestly from what you read, I don't think anything has really changed. No, I actually love that a lot. This article has some pictures with it of like dogs wearing sweaters and the lady who knit, like knitting herself. So listeners, you guys will get to see that when we post this too. Nice. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:03 Pretty fun little article about sweaters. Thank you. I have one more for y'all. Obviously, we know what a spinster is. Yeah. Just, fun fact. Did you know that after a spinster, you would graduate to a different title if you're still unwed. What?
Starting point is 00:44:27 Yeah. So... What would it be? When you turn 26, you're no longer a spinster. You're now a thornback. What the fuck? I mean, that's a sick name. It is. It is. Thornback. And I feel like just getting to, like, be 26, I mean, call now thornback, It is, it is. Thornback. And I feel like just getting to like be 26 and being called now Thornback, I think that's
Starting point is 00:44:47 an accomplishment of its own. Like you spent that long, like being unwed and then like you're one of the few people who like gets to be called a Thornback. Yeah. I don't know, I'm sure it was some like really derogatory term back then, but. Oh, of course. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Now we're just like, oh, that sounds really cool. The reason I'm bringing this up is because this is an article, first off, it's from the Capital Journal, Salem, Oregon. And it was published Tuesday, May 15, 1951. And this is like a section that says for, excuse you, sorry, for 10 rule readers. And the title says, writer lists 10 ways for girls to remain spinsters. I want to hear it. Not how to not be a spinster, but how to remain a spinster. How to remain a spinsters. I want to hear it. Not how to not be a spinster, but how to remain a spinster. Yeah, because once again, it's an accomplishment of its own.
Starting point is 00:45:55 So this is written by Cynthia Lowry. And she starts her column, her tips by saying, it seems to be the fashion to get together a list of 10 rules on how to accomplish almost anything in life's desires. Any of life's desires. Whoa, tongue twist. Okay. I don't know what happened there. Anyway, white 10 is such a handy number for rule purposes, I don't know. But it's the classic number. I'm an old 10
Starting point is 00:46:26 rule reader. From way back in my time, we have the 10 rules for superb soufflés, 10 rules for a lovely shining head of hair. There are sets of 10 rules covering about every subject. But for the life of me, I can't seem to remember ever reading Ten Ways to Remain a Spinster. Although, I seem to have run through a number of series on how to remain a bachelor. And come to think of it, I've never seen a set in title Ten Ways to win a wife. Of course, I don't think I've ever known a girl who was determined to remain a spinster
Starting point is 00:47:15 all her life. However, there must be females somewhere in the world who sincerely wish to maintain their single blessedness. Oh yeah, I'm sure. Yeah. We all know that they are male. That they are male. We have evidence who fight off the wedding ban as if it were a branding iron. For the benefit of that portion of womanhood which wishes to continue being carefree, untamed, and self-supporting the rest of their life.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Herewith, a set of rules which are guaranteed to keep the obeyer from dangerous proximity to the altar. Rule number one. Every time you meet an attractive man who is a little taller than you and obviously unattached, ask him immediately, A, if he's married, and B, what he does for a living. Okay, the two first questions. Well, question number two.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Oh, okay. Yeah, it was like question, like, Tip number one, here's two questions. Well, question number two. Oh, okay. Yeah, it was like question, like tip number one, here's two questions for you to ask. Yeah. Tip number two, don't spend a lot of time worrying about clothes and take manicures and shiny shoes. Take to heart all the stuff men say about not liking lipstick and nail polish. Don't even wear any. Tip number three.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Talk about yourself a lot. And let every man you meet know what a smart girl and clever businesswoman you are. And give him an impression you make just about twice as what he does. Go off. Yeah. Put him in his place, I guess. Please do. Number four.
Starting point is 00:49:16 I love this one. Girlboss. Actually, we just talked about this briefly, but number four. Light your own cigarettes. Insist on Dutch treats and argue him out of such ideas as taxing you all the way home, helping you across the street, and removing his hat in elevators. Tell him all about equal rights for women. Yes! Tip number five, top all his anecdotes if you can.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Tell rough smoker stories in mixed company. Break into his favorite stories with a punchline. Indicate that you first heard his jokes when you were in kindergarten. Yes. Just like one of him in every way possible. Literally, and I love this. Tip number six, drink too many cocktails at parties and always order the most expensive entree on the menu. Tip number seven. I'm gonna be having money for that.
Starting point is 00:50:21 Fair. Tip number seven, don't let him think he's the only fish in the pond. Make references to other fellows and dream up tall, rich, and handsome ones while you're at it. Yes. Number eight. Yawn when he starts talking about baseball, boxing, or love and launch into a discussion of international situation, capital versus labor, or something you've boned up on.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Avant-garde poetry is good if you're hard up. Love that. And you can always make nasty remarks about other women of his acquaintance, or talk about diarine. Okay, that's just fucked. Yeah. Like, that's just fucked You know sometimes you gotta pull those hard ones I guess so I guess you have to you have to really go in like really dig deep if you did one through seven
Starting point is 00:51:15 And he's still interested. That's when you pull out number eight Number nine Confide in him tell him about your ill health Number nine, confide in him. Tell him about your ill health. Tell him of your fanatic devotion to canaries and other house pets and explain how you like them much better than children. That you can do, yes.
Starting point is 00:51:37 Yeah. And also that might not be a complete lie. And then number 10. Develop a high nasal voice, which can be heard from long distances, and make it a practice to hail waiters on it. Break up all over when you laugh, and when you get red and puffy face when you cry in the theaters. It is all practically- Okay, that's insane in the theaters. It is all practically insane.
Starting point is 00:52:06 I know it is all practice. She wraps it up by saying it is all practically guaranteed that if these rules are followed to the letter, the ambitious spinster who wants to stay that way can fix it so that in 10 days her telephone will never ring and strong men will cross the street when they see her approaching. We love women here. And I love this. She's right. Why is there article saying 10 ways to stay a bachelor but not 10 ways to stay a spinster? This is crazy. Now there is. Good. Women deserve it. Yeah. If you want to stay a spinster, good for you.
Starting point is 00:52:46 You don't need to get married. Not if you make twice as they make. No, fuck yeah, exactly. Not if you like your canaries better than kids. I think I do. I don't even have canaries. I want to be a spinster. You could identify as a spinster I guess I
Starting point is 00:53:09 could you couldn't I and then at 26 thornback all right that's all last one for me is a bit of a long one but I thought it was a fun read. Go for it. And also some fun pictures on this article that we'll be posting. Alright, so this one is from the Austin American Statesman, published in Austin, Texas, Thursday, May 29th, 1997. Okay. So the title of this one is, Beware, the Tamagotchis are gonna getcha. Is this some like propaganda against Tamagotchis?
Starting point is 00:54:03 Oh, just you wait. I had one. I had multiple. I never had one, but I always wanted one. I kept just losing them. I always thought I would just kill it, like accidentally, because I would forget. So it's probably a good thing.
Starting point is 00:54:19 Fair. Anyway, this one jumps right into it. I am the worst kind of person. I should never have gotten a pet. The one good thing that has come out of all of this is that I have realized I am not the sort to have the responsibility of maintaining a life. My hands have starved, abused, and killed.
Starting point is 00:54:44 There. I'm sorry There it is out in the open I have killed my pet again and again Please tell me is a reset button Welcome to the world of the Bandai Electronics Tamagotchi. Yes. Little egg in Japanese. The original virtual reality pet that's taking Japan, America, and most recently, Austin by storm. The concept is the same as a regular pet,
Starting point is 00:55:22 only this one is battery operated. Once turned on, this beeping entity requires virtual food, discipline, and love. If you provide these things, your Tamagotchi will grow up to live a happy life, then die a restful death, and be born again. If you neglect your Tamagotchi, the pet dies a horrible death, and you, the terrible parent, must live with the guilt. And as I have done four times now, press the reset button. Was it that?
Starting point is 00:55:59 I don't remember it having like a horrible death. I mean, they're definitely dramatizing it. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, now I'm just afraid that I blacked out that childhood experience. Oh, yeah, like the trauma from it I was looking through other Tamagotchi articles and there was one literally talking about how like a kid But how much she died and he like cried hysterically about it because it was like his first exposure to death type of oh Which this article gets into a little bit that's hard, but also like I think that's a Easy way to expose them to it In a way. Yeah. Yeah, I could see that
Starting point is 00:56:38 So can do you saying the amazing thing about these toys is their popularity. In five months, 5.5 million units have been sold in Japan, and four million virtual pets are being shipped to the United States. The numbers would seem to indicate we have a fad on our hands. Picture a computerized pet rock, a responsive beanie baby, or an Elmo equipped with artificial intelligence. But this has the potential to be much more than a fad. In Japan, people are naming their Tamagotchis, making little beds for them to sleep in and carrying them wherever they go. The New York Times reported proud owners of digital toys
Starting point is 00:57:19 who've had priests perform death rituals when they died. Okay, everything else was cute, the little like naming them, I'm like I would name it, making bets, I'm like I wouldn't do it but I wouldn't complain, I'm like oh that's really cute. The priest? Bringing in a priest? Okay. A death ritual is crazy. See, no I know. Anyway, keep going. Quote, in Japan, pets are still a rarity, end quote, said Carol Mesa, a Bandai spokeswoman. Quote, this is designed to be an electronic pet.
Starting point is 00:57:56 With that said, and America poised to be the next country to catch Tamagotchi fever, we have to really look at the possible repercussions. What will this little computerized pet do to the real pet population? Tamagotchi fever, we have to really look at the possible repercussions. What will this little computerized pet do to the real pet population? Will they break the hearts of their owners? How many Tamagotchi funerals will I be attending in the coming months? Psychotherapist Alan Griffin believes much of Tamagotchi's popularity is based on the fact that it's a computer. He said a computer is
Starting point is 00:58:27 compelling and when coupled with human-like emotional responses makes Tamagotchi something people can adhere to. Griffin finds a problem in the fact that the pet dies. Quote, adults can handle it, he said. I'm worried about the kids. Adults can handle it, he said. I'm worried about the kids. You can't say goodbye to a computer, and it's really rough when you can't go through a proper mourning process." End quote.
Starting point is 00:58:52 Okay. I guess I see that. I see that, but that's only if, like, you're really looking at your Tamagotchi as, like, a real pet. Yeah, most of them are gonna see it as a toy. Like, oh, it's a little toy. Yeah. Or maybe back then, since it was so brand new,
Starting point is 00:59:11 they didn't, but nowadays it's like, oh, it's just a little computer toy, whatever. I don't know. Anyway. Griffin, the psychotherapist, also thinks the reset button isn't such a good idea. Quote, at best, it would give the child an unrealistic view of death.
Starting point is 00:59:27 At worst, it could confuse the child as to the way death works, end quote. I think we're reading too much into it. I think you're reading too much into it. I think you're taking it too far, Griffin. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know, whatever. I think the average child is just gonna be like, my pet died, like mom, dad, my Tamagotchi
Starting point is 00:59:49 died, like can you reset it? Yeah. Exactly. Well, you know, like maybe cry for a minute or two and then go back to it. Shed a tear. I know I would. I feel like if anything, it becomes like the goal to keep it alive longer and longer. So I don't think... anyway, I guess.
Starting point is 01:00:06 When Beth Wilson, education director of the Humane Society, heard about the Tamagotchi craze, she said she had no reason to think the toy would impact the live pet population. In fact, she believes that a toy like this can be a good thing for pets. Quote, if people are into the fun aspect of having a pet, then they should get the computer, she said. This might be a fantastic way to educate and prepare the human population on the responsibility of owning a pet I actually agree with that like you give it to a kid you could help teach them responsibility to take it's training them to have a pet you will have to feed it you will have to clean after it you will have to pay that
Starting point is 01:00:39 whatever you do with the Tamagotchi, but in real life. Yeah. While speaking with Wilson, the education director, my newest Tamagotchi, number five, I've named him Ernest, starts beeping. He's hungry and the skull and crossbones denotes that he is sick. I turn the sound off and continue my conversation. After a while, I look on the tiny screen only to see that Ernest has bitten the dust just as Wilson delivers her last quote. Quote, I suppose if you think about it, it's better to kill something in virtual reality than in real life. Yeah, I I agree. I say as I once again press the reset button.
Starting point is 01:01:29 Okay, I like how like there's some comedies Weaved in here some serious topics. We talk about Tamagotchi. I like it. And that's the article. Thank you. Yeah, Tamagotchi death. That's a good way to end it up to wrap it up. yeah, and this was also the other sort of animal animal one Yeah, it makes sense though because I don't really think that they're animals in there. They're just like it pixelated something Yeah, yeah cool. Thank you Well, listen news nonsense volume 11 It's in the books
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Starting point is 01:02:40 But yeah, this was fun. Let us know what you guys thought. Um, let us know if you miss old news nonsense being twice a week. Who knows? Maybe we'll reconsider. Twice a week? But um... Twice a month!
Starting point is 01:02:55 I'm like, I don't think we'd be able to find enough to keep going twice a week. We wouldn't. We would not be able to. I mean, we probably wouldn't just have it be fun stuff, but yeah. Anyway. Because it's not only the fact that you're trying to find, like, a good article, you're also trying to find one that's not too long, but not too short either. I don't mind the too long ones, to be honest.
Starting point is 01:03:18 I'm fine with a couple of longer ones. Your Tamagotchi one was fine. Yeah, that was... It's also why I threw, like, the nine-year-old smoker girl because like it was shorter compared to everything else. Yeah. Cool. Well, I had a good time. Stay hydrated.
Starting point is 01:03:33 Yes, stay hydrated. Drink your water. I have no water. I haven't drank enough water today. That is an issue. It is. I've been drinking like, because of work, I've been drinking an energy drink every day, and like, it's not a problem yet, but um... Is that the only thing you're drinking? No, I mean, I sip on water. Okay, that's fine then. Won't be an issue. You're at it for about eight hours. An energy
Starting point is 01:04:00 drink is not going to kill you. If anything, it's going to, I don't know, give you a rush of stamina or energy or something. Yeah. Yeah, anyway, thank you guys. Thanks for being here. Stay awesome, happy holidays. Yeah. Really hope you enjoy time with your family
Starting point is 01:04:17 if you celebrate what you celebrate. If you celebrate Thanksgiving, have a good Thanksgiving. Otherwise, just enjoy your time off. If you- Yeah, next month as well, holidays and just- Celebrate Thanksgiving, have a good Thanksgiving. Otherwise, just enjoy your time off. If you- Next month as well, holidays and just- Celebrate- Take it easy, guys. Take a break, relax, you deserve it.
Starting point is 01:04:32 Hopefully you get that time off. Yeah. Recover, it's been a year. When you submit that time off request, it's not a request. That's you selling your boss, I'm not gonna be here this day. You can accept that or not.
Starting point is 01:04:48 That's always how I treat it because I give it with plenty of time. I'm like, hey, I'm gonna be gone in three months. This is not like a request. It's a heads up. I'm gonna be gone in three months. This is not legal advice. You cannot pin this back on us.
Starting point is 01:05:03 But- It's just how we deal with our life issues. Work. Yeah. You have the authority over your own life, make the best of it. Yeah. And with that, we're out. Kai?
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