Chambers of the Occult - Old News Nonsense Vol. 13

Episode Date: February 18, 2025

Send us a textOld News Nonsense Vol. 13: Crime, Condoms, and Chimney Shenanigans!Get ready for another whirlwind dive into history’s weirdest headlines!A college student tried to break into his own home by sliding down the chimney, only to get stuck for hours, proving that Santa’s method isn’t foolproof. Meanwhile, a butcher in San Francisco handed over Easter eggs filled with heroin, turning a festive exchange into a high-stakes bust.In Chino Hills, an ice cream truck raised eyebrows when an 11-year-old boy bought a condom keychain along with his frozen treat. Over in Florida, a cat spent a week stuck in a tree, only to ignore rescuers and leap 40 feet to freedom on its own terms.Advice columnist Mary Grant tackled thousands of personal dilemmas, from relationships to unplanned pregnancies, while another newspaper debated whether wives should spank their husbands—yes, that was actual journalism.A college dorm immersed students in ASL, creating a silent but thriving community. Meanwhile, a woman rejected gender norms by dressing as a man and traveling the country as a tramp, insisting life was simply easier that way.History’s weirdest moments return once again, proving that truth is often stranger than fiction.

Chambers of the Occult may contain content that might not be suitable for all listeners. Listener discretion is advised. Hello. We're starting. Yeah. Hey, I would not say the same room because we're outside. Yeah, we're not in a room right now. We're just excited to record, you know, got some going on tonight. We're out here. So instead, she broke watch town. Yeah

well Yeah We are or how many a lot well welcome back to old news nonsense volume 13 yeah Oh, yeah, it is Well, um, I'm Kai. I'm jake as always well done with the same people Um, I hope you are Lots of motion at the end

All right, um Um, how are you all doing? Thanks for being here. Yeah Have we got some old news nonsense for you? We Yeah. We've got some old-through nonsense for you. We do. I would hope we do. We've got some fun little articles, as always. Do you want to go in first? Rock, paper, scissor, shoot. Rock, paper, scissor, shoot. There we go.

I want to go first. I'll you go. I wanna go first. I get to choose, yeah. Yeah, I'll go first. Okay. I will go first. Okay. All right. So the first article that I have for you, it's from the Evening News,

very specific, sorry. That Evening News, Plattsmouth, I think that's how pronounced Nebraska okay January 1898 oh that's pretty old what okay yeah what's my mouth yep and this one titles is titled she dresses like a man oh wow wow. Revolutionary. Hey, was that you? 1856, right? Yeah, 18 something. Yeah. For its time, yeah. It is pretty revolutionary. So, 1898. So it says, Ms. Belle Schaeffer shots Indiana Society. Shots Indiana Society. People in Betford, Indiana, who have known Ms. Belle Schaeffer for any length of time, will readily understand why she has at last gained notoriety as the boy tramp.

Okay, I mean, I don't know if that's good notoriety, but he's got notoriety. As soon as I read this I was like, uh, we don't call people that. No, definitely not. Since she has always had a decided preference for masculine ways in association with the stoner sex. Even when a little girl, she was a tomboy now without any compunction compunction sure

Whatever she disregards all laws of society whenever she disregards all law okay and whenever opportunity offers masquerade in male attire and seeks the company as well as it a Billetman of no They've got something. Yeah. Yeah work. Yeah She cannot do this out home people know her there and the thighs it is a violation of Indiana law No way. Oh my shaker talks willingly of her adventures and think willing and seems willing to be tough She was not satisfied with local notoriety, and last June she appropriated a suit of her brother's clothes and went out into the world full-fledged tramp.

Once again, we don't use that anymore. Thank god we don't. Well, we shouldn't use that anymore. Thank god we don't. Well, we shouldn't use that anymore. Some people do. The only reason I hear it is for a movie title and that's it. Yeah. Anyway, let's keep it up. Her peregrations have covered most all southern Indiana and parts of Italy.

The first heard of her by her parents was in a telegram from the city marshal of Charleston. Okay. Saying Bell had been arrested, that she was held as a vagrant, and also she was clad in male attire. How's that? This is no surprise to Mrs. Schaeffer,

as he did not interest himself in his daughter's case. The Charleston authorities released the girl after having equipped her with a wardrobe more suitable for her sex. So they took her in and they were like, what the hell are you doing? Yeah. And then they gave her women's clothes and were like, where this go? Well, first off, the dad didn't care. He was like, uh, like, all right, whatever. In their custody. I'm not going for her. Yeah

She left Charleston and the next and next heard of Casey Where she had discarded her she had okay, so she got dressed she left she left Charleston and was next heard of at Casey where she discarded her skirt and and was next heard of at Pacey where she discarded her skirt and substituted men's clothing. Okay. Pacey's Miss Schaeffer wandered eastward, carefully avoiding the towns and escaped further detection as Masquerader. She arrived in Bedford about a week ago wearing a pair of blue jean trousers, a red sweater, bicycle shoes, and a jauntly little cap. Belle is a girl again, I don't think she ever stopped.

No, she definitely didn't. and... Belle is a girl again, and may be seen in the streets almost every day. She is about 20 years old, but rough life has taken its effect upon her, and she looks several years older. She is feminine in every detail, and in feminine appeal, she appears quite a handsome girl. She makes up, and has had her dark wavy hair clipped close to the scalp. When asked if she had enough experience in ways of men, she replied, No, I won't be a woman.

I expect the house. I want the outdoors. I want to travel and see the country. A woman can't do that like a man. And I'm going to be a man. I know I can't do a man's work but I can wear his clothes and be a tramp. I came home because winter is coming on and I didn't want to travel around during the cold weather. In the spring I expect to go out again but I won't be caught next time. There are several reasons why I

prefer men's clothing. It is not such clumsy, poverty-as-skirts. It's getting on and off trains. And besides, it's a protection from rude men. Thank you, Kai. And that's it. Is that what did it? I think so. Something did it. I don't know what I was doing. Well congrats She is gonna do it again and do it better. Yep, and that was a good way to wrap it up that was Yeah, okay

Yeah, two folks are watching us on YouTube. We're just doing hand gestures at the camera. I don't know. Check out this video on YouTube. If you know how we did that, let us know. Yeah. Okay. All right. So, what's my favorite?

I've got an article for you. Now this one is from the Austin American Statesman from Austin, Texas, Saturday, June 7th, 1969. 1969. 1969, yeah, pretty, pretty fun, yeah, yeah. Alright. Where are you? Trapped in a two-story chimney? Six-foot-first-minute. Dark.

Cramped. Hour after terrible hour. How does Saint Nick do it? Oh, okay. I was wondering where this was going. Oh, it changes up. Don't worry. Okay. Twitch's nose? No, that doesn't work.

How long has it been low? Light. The sun must be coming up. Will I ever get out of here? Some of those thoughts must have crossed the mind of an 18-year-old University of Texas student. No. Who spent nearly seven hours trapped in a chimney Friday. I had a feeling this is where it was going. It's not about time. How many hours? Seven. Over. That's a feeling this is where it was going. It's not about how many hours. It's seven.

Over. That's a lot. Yeah, seven hours. How does someone get himself trapped at the bottom of a two-story chimney in a vacant house in an unpopulated wooded area for nearly seven hours? How was this man caught? Rescued, I would say. Not even caught.

Yeah, rescued. It goes something like this. Peter Lee Hines, 18, of 1002 West 26th Street. Once again, we're giving addresses out, folks. Picked up her girlfriend Thursday night and decided to show her a house his father was going to buy in South Jonestown Hills. Arriving at the house, Hines discovered that he did not have a door key. Of course, after trying all the windows, you guessed it, he decided to go down the chimney. That was a bad idea.

Well everybody else knows that that only works one night out of the year and June 6th isn't it No, you're here folks. Not a mercy. Not June 6th only one thing It was about the right time though midnight. How does the old poem go? Quotes up upon the rooftop impress your chick, but fall down the chimney is not too slow. That may not be it exactly but that's about what happened. Love this author. Yeah. Heinz started down the chimney but then perhaps remembering the date decided against it.

To it! All the way to the bottom. What now? Uh, yell, of course. Meanwhile, back on the outside, Heinz's date was in the dark. What's a co-ed to do? Break a window?

Inside, hmm, they don't build chimneys like they used to. What does that mean? I have no clue. Go for help? That's the answer. Off for parts unknown, seeking aid for her suitor, Heinz's date gets lost. This is a wild article. Finally finding a friendly cottage in the woods, a call was made to the Travis County Sheriff's Department at 410 AM.

Friday, man stuck in chimney unarmed. Unarmed! They had to clarify right? Yeah. Because you know, God forbid he has a gun while he's stuck in the chimney. Yeah. He's gonna disarm this man before we get him out. He's like, can't even move. That's what I'm thinking. He's like, no, he really is unarmed. Yeah. By 530 a.m. and as in all good stories, the cavalry came to the rescue. This time it was a form of deputy sheriffs Chester D. Joslin, Jerry Glazer and Joe Isch. The rest was downhill. Or was it up? A rope was lowered and fastened about the tired student. After a great deal of huffing and puffing,

Hines was at last back where he started nearly seven hours earlier. At the start, entrance at the top. At the top, yeah. Injuries? Just one. Deputy Sheriff Ishii pulled a muscle in his back. And after seeing a doctor is still limping about. Wow that's a story. That's a story. Don't get stuck in a chimney guys. Fear. Only one night and only sand.

And it's for the avocados. That's a good boy yes, yeah, I Don't have anything to be Though I guess we're they stop what it's a So this one is From evening telegraph Derby Derby England, Tuesday, April 24th, 1973. Okay, a little more modern. And it simply says, if you have a problem, Mary can answer it.

Who's Marian? Why should I trust her? Why can't she answer it? And it starts by saying, if Sarah and Lucy Williams have a problem, they're more likely to do what girls do and fight in a friend or aunt rather than their mother. Even though not happens to be very grand a woman's problem age and has the answers at her fingertips, you find that although many boys take from fighting their mothers, girls are less inclined to because there's always a certain amount of rivalry between girls and whatever their

relationship whether it's friends, sister or mother, said Angela Williams. Is this true listeners? If you're out there and you're identified as a woman, then what do you think? Yeah, is that true? Yeah, what do you think? Yeah, is that true? No, you're good, you're good. And it says, and it's why an average of... Yep, I did not skip. It says, and it's why an average of 500 letters

each week reached Mary Grant and her team. Letters for people of all ages, but mainly teenage girls, men and women, and an average would shift. All I had any doubts that the letters were made up. In the depression periods around November and February, I received something like 800 letters a week, she said. Wow. And Angela and her team of experts deal with every genuine letter, replying privately and through the famous column which started in 1960. What do people write about?

Every relationship or emotional crisis you can think of, as well as contraception problems and abortion Pregnancy Pregnancy at a wedlock Homosexuality and other psychosocial problems New divorce laws, unmarried mothers, you name it Angela told me at the Penny Hotel Derby last week They want information or just someone to tell someone Sometimes they think they want advice and which answers decisions, but most of the time what they want is a friendly listener.

Encouragement to take the weight out of comfort and knowledge that they're not unique. Occasionally they want the satisfaction of proving that you can't help them. I honestly, yeah, I get it. I agree. want the satisfaction of proving that you can't help them. I honestly, yeah, I get it, I agree. The previous evening, Adela had addressed the 25th anniversary meeting at the Derby Ranch of the National Council of Women. She told members, how can there be totally, how can there be totally without light problems? There will always be a need for marriage vines If not marry friends, who? Uncarried mass people were being directed

away from the public community towards big cities and to membership groups for big faceless, uncaring masses with their shoulder to cry on. It's good that professionals are stepping in to help re-address that. I don't resent them, I don't resent them, although I do find that even if somewhere the state can take forever to act. Chief Boak with admiration at the work done by New York guidance councils, Samaritans, and self-help groups who continue to grow strength that we can turn around the trend away from arid emotional deserts and become more practical, more caring.

Angela, a graduate of London University and former teacher, works on a number of national newspapers and magazines before turning to the Netherlands. And was problem page writer Margaret Shaw of her Daily Herald before it closed. She is a member of the Council of the National Council of Unmarried Mothers and Her Child, and she has close links with the National Marriage Guidance Council. She has visited about 40 local councils as a guest speaker, including Belfast, and held her national conference last year. Now her principles are, I absorb a lot of principles in the work I am doing, she said. It is critical of extreme women's lives and deals that a lot of principles in the work I am doing," she said. It is critical of extreme women's lips

and feels that a lot of women believe that men need to help themselves. Viewers will bombard soon with another sex in mind, particularly in talk shows and TV television magazines, she said. Angela feels that behind her job people are sober do-gooders, but I can act as a conduit to understanding and preaching. It's all a matter of common sense, but the biggest advantage is being able to listen, evaluate and react. When Angela left, sitting for some of the afternoon, she was reading the friendly J.O. on what husband, but really as to how one manufacturers,

I am getting kind of tied, I am so sorry. It's okay. Um, but really as to how one manufacturer safety belts for lizards. Like I said, I don't know what I'm reading. Because it says how one manufacturer safety belts for lizards, chickens, and show cats her teeth. Safety belts for lizards, chickens, and show cats her teeth. Safety belts for all of that? Yeah. Okay, cool. Back in her car, there's a body of a baby squirrel, which... What? Body of a baby squirrel? Why? It's all from the same article. Okay.

Whether it makes sense? All over the place. That's for you and the listeners to decide. It does not. Yeah, it does not. No, I'm okay with that. Um, it's nonsense. It's all nonsense, Molden. Back in her car, there's the body of a baby squirrel, which the local gardener has put on the bonnet. I think people are glad to know that people really exist and see how they look like she laughed. I think she's happy. I think it's good to know that people exist. Yeah, I concur. Yeah, I agree with that sentence.

And that's about it. That's the end. I thought I was going to have like some type of conclusion or something like that. No, no, that's it Like it talks about her. So I should talk to Mary for my problems Yes, because she can talk about anything. Yeah, and she had no so because everyone right does everything. Yep Well, I mean unless you talk to your mother you can talk to Mary Because that puts her at this whole thing if you you can talk to her, she's other Mary. Yeah.

Okay. Do you guys, do you guys know any Mary's out there listeners? No. Do you know a Mary have a Mary in their life that you could talk to? Yeah. Are you Mary Grant? Because if you are. Hello.

Hi. First of all, I'm glad you're still kicking then. Um, do people still write into you? Yeah. You'd be old as hell. Hi, first of all, I'm glad you're still kicking, man. Do people still write into you? Yeah, you'd be old as hell if you're still alive right now. It's pretty crazy. Rather than complimenting her, you feel like you're old as hell. You're old as hell, yeah. I mean, I guess that is a compliment, right?

I guess, yeah. Come on, Mary, you've heard worst. All right. Yeah, come on Mary you've heard worst Right well One of the things that you mentioned Mary like to talk about was like well, there's no she didn't talk about Go well, there was like, you know, like contraceptives that are like sex and stuff like that Well, I've got something kind of tied into it. This one is from the Chino Girls and News. Uh, Chino, California posted on Wednesday, March 30th, 1994.

1994. So we're getting closer to more recent times. Condoms from ice cream truck. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. No, no. Some Chino Hills parents have expressed outrage about the latest item reportedly being sold from ice cream trucks in the city. Okay. Condoms. In keychains. In keychains? Yeah,

like you carry it around with you, you know. Okay. An 11-year-old Chino Hills boy said he purchased a condom from Bill's ice cream truck in the Woodview Village near Pipeline Avenue and Rolling Ridge Drive after hearing his older brother and his friend talking and laughing about the condoms. Quote, my brother said you sell condoms. Can I buy one? The boy asked the ice cream truck vendor on Sunday. The vendor supposedly made a crack about his age and sold him one for $1. Wow. The keychain cover has a cartoon depiction of Arnold Schwarzenegger. No. Holding a gun with the words, Sperminator 2 and Hasta la Vista, baby.

See, I said I could get behind this. I can still get behind this. It also states, high quality condom inside. The condom is packaged in brightly colored wrapping with green and pink striping. Okay. The parents of the boy took their concerns to the police department. The parents said Bills previously sold the porno tattoos, exploding caps, and stink bomb vials. So this ice cream man has had a variety of additional products.

Oh yes he has. The ice cream vendor's route is near Townsend Junior High School. Perfect! That is your demographic. Ice cream, condoms, and everything else. They will buy all of it. Yeah. So you're like, hey babe, do you want some Ice cream, condoms and everything else. They will buy all of it. Yeah. Yeah. They're like, hey, babe, you want some ice cream and condoms? Uh, I'll take the condoms. Hold on. Hold the ice cream.

Yeah. No violation. Captain Mike Stadel said his department researched the issue and found that no law is apparently being violated. Isn't it strange how there's like. Rules and regulations on selling food? They're not like random things like that, right? We're still researching, he said. Captain Stedell compared the action to some schools that pass out condoms to 15 and 16 year olds. Honestly not that bad. No. You want to pass it out around any school, the high school is the one that you

want to pass it around. Not the junior. No. Anyway, he if you want to pass it around any school, the high school is the one that you want to pass it around. Not the junior high. Anyway, he said forbidding the ice cream vendors from selling condoms would be regulating commerce. However, the police department will approach the ice cream vendors to relay community concerns. He said, quote, if this doesn't work, we need to discuss other alternatives, end quote. Chino Hills Councilman Mike Wickman, who heard about the concerns from the parents of the boy, said he had a worried feeling the action was not illegal. According to Councilman Wickman, a former sergeant with the Los Angeles County Sheriff's

Department, the best way the community can stop condoms from being sold from ice cream trucks is to approach the ice cream vendors with their concerns. The power of the community can dictate a lot of things, said Councilman Wickman. Collectively voicing concerns can be a powerful tool, who said, Mr. Wickman said he would ask the city attorney whether or not there is anything in the minor oriented business ordinance that could help resolve the issue. Quote, based on my law enforcement experience, it is unlikely.

However, if they can give away condoms in the schools, they may be able to sell these to school-aged children legally, end quote, noted the councilman. Yeah, I don't see any issue with that. Me neither. Honestly, if you want to buy it here. You don't want the ice cream person to sell condoms to your kids Buy them condoms buy them condoms or yeah talk to the ice cream person yourself like it's not illegal You know, I'd be a lot more comfortable with my child running around with a condom in their keychain Even if they're like you love it, right? I'm just like, okay

Maybe not if they're 11 but at the same time I'm like I would be concerned as soon as it goes missing from the keychain. Yeah. Yeah. What do you got? Um, I have a question for you. Okay. Um, did you ever get spanked? Did I ever get spanked?

I like how it took you a minute to process. Well, there were a few things I wanted to ask you. Um, yeah, I mean, I think I got spanked a couple times when I was younger. I didn't really get, like, not that much, surprisingly. Okay, cool, because this one starts with a question. Should wives spank naughty hubbies? Yes. Yeah?

Yeah. It says, uh, wailing men who have felt the slipper tell their woes and seek sympathy. This is also, let me tell you where this is from. So this is from the Pittsburgh Press, 1916, page 18. Okay. And it says, New York July 19, paired with the silly season is formally declared open. From this day till the hot weather is over, wise New Yorkers will not burden their sizzling brains

with the Mexican problem, the presidential election or the increase of costs living. The question of the hour is to spank? Not to spank. Not to spank. Spank. Do it. It is much too warm to think. If you don't believe it, rate this confession of men and women

who favor or oppose spanking as a way of adjusting domestic quarrels. Not a few of these communications came from women like Miss N, Miss C of Brooklyn, who declares frankly that she has founded an excellent remedy for defects on a husband who became addicted to beer. This thing is an alcoholic. Just say that.

What being has reformed my husband from a drinker and smoker after a few months of misery. I thought you said whipping. You said whooping or whipping? Whipping. Okay, I support spanking, not whipping. What? Yep, and it continues by saying, whipping what yep and it contains my thing she said and she adds that the discipline state and a fine poison on the other hand the husband who sighs

himself who signs himself and ditched him then anything her indignant and dig thank you Indignant husband sees no humor in the subject and no good in spanking at all. If they are men who are grateful for their chastisement that they have received, they have not written to this office. Here are a few of the letters we have received since the article which start the spanking controversy. And here's a few letters from a few people pro or against spanking. The first one says spank husband when she takes the notion. On the need of spanking, which is discussed, I would not say that spanking would not be

necessary for children. Whippy has reformed my husband from a drinker and a smoker after a few months of misery. I decided to take matters into my own hands one night when I lost my temper and on and on his half aware I was his equal in physical power Damn she took her rage out on like she rage out on him I took an ocean and if he was sound thereafter, I have spent him a few times more but I think now saved a fine home. Another one says, canned many times and rather likes it. I would say that while I have never had

occasions to use the rod against my husband, he has frequently spanked me for my faults, and I have no objections to the punishment when carelessness with things around the house has made it deserved. There is something about a little pain in the way which helps one to remember what is required of them. My husband never spanks in anger, and he does not punish for trypophobia, but the thing he considers necessary. I feel that I am better for it. However, I will say it is not used often, but when it I must confess I rather enjoy it. My mother used to stag me when I needed it and it has never affected my love for her. I firmly believe that some

husbands would be better off if they had their wife correct them in the same way. And this... And this You looking at me like that this is from this deed no, I know I know Yeah, yeah my my opinion you're not public when it comes to me First water Oh random water on the floor. It's come from some There's one more that says spanked at bedtimes and before breakfast. Like on a schedule. Yeah.

Okay. And this one says, those newly married wives who have doubts whether they should wield the fact to themselves. My wife read your article and made very much interested. Too much though for me, last night I stayed out rather late at my club, and when I returned home received to my surprise of my married life, my wife handed me the first banking I received since my boyhood days. This morning at breakfast, I remonstrated with her and attempted to stick up for my rights.

Whereupon, I was taken from my meal and given another dose that set me to think. To start my day with one simple, indescribable, aside from humiliation, there is much discomfort to endure. I am not sure what I think of it, if my wife was past her life without spanking. It's rather strange that she makes up my future by giving me more than 2 in 12 hours. These people are freaky. Like what? What is going on? Like it? What? There's one, two more. This one says, the policeman with a spanking wife. Think of a policeman who permits his wife to spank him.

Yet, I am that member. I am 30 years old and I have been on the force for five years. Not many women will be found in spanking husband unions. The mind. It's spanking husband union. It's all right for some people to take a thing in their right spirit, but my wife knows that I am no boy.

She makes a boy of me. I don't see why she does. She uses a lemon squeezer. And an admin squeezer. In the administration of punishment. I can't tell my fellow officers because they would never let me hear the end of it. Yeah, but I wish there were some some for men who have to stand up under this sort of thing. I was taken off my beat one night and sent to patrol a house.

When I got there, my wife was waiting for me. She had me sit down, and she told me she didn't like my work schedule. Then she spanked me. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Ohanked me. Oh my god. What is this world they're living in? Then she had a friend of hers join in. In the spanking? Yeah. And the two of them settled the thing with me at the same time.

We figured out that if we had to be hit by our wives, it is the worst thing in the world. I wish the idea had never started. And the last article here of spanking says, a bedroom library. Everyone, favorite colors, favorite songs, favorite plays, favorite books. Although it is an advantage to not get too many. An even bigger advantage to not indulge in those books or use for reading at that time. Because for men, at least it takes so much of the value of the quiet bedroom library. Bringing this to local conclusions, a few books on the finance, I think this is an ad that I'm reading to you.

This is an ad that I'm reading to you. We're not sponsors! No! But we like- Please do your reading. It worked! Um, but yeah. So, spank you.

Um... Spank you! Um... spanking! This claim please do not spank people. Well, let's be ask how boring it is. That's a different case. Wives spanking their husbands. How about instead of having to reform your husband or your partner by spanking them, you just find somebody that you never had to spank.

Yeah. Yeah. That might be easier. You deserve better than that. If you don't like your fiance's schedule, don't marry him. It's not gonna change. If you don't like the fact that they're an alcoholic, just beat the shit out of them. Like, that's crazy.

Yeah. Like, what? Okay, my turn. What? I'll let them spank. What? Okay, my turn. What are the dumb things? You know what? While we're on the topic of, you know, police and crime and things that probably shouldn't be happening, I've got an article from the Petaluma Argus Courier from Petaluma, California, Wednesday, March 27th, 1957.

Wait, 57? So what would you do if like, you're Easter egg hunting? Okay. And there were just like a bunch of drugs in the Easter eggs that you found. Well, as I am a full grown adult, I would not tell anyone, first off, that I was Easter hunting. Yeah, that's kind of embarrassing. Yeah, yeah. Also, what kind of drugs though? Dope.

No, I'll pass on it. I'll probably flush them. I mean, I'm gonna be completely honest with you. I would be disappointed that there's not candy inside. No, same. Or money. One or the other. Because you can use money to buy candy. You can't use drugs. You can also use money to buy condiments. You can. Ice cream and condiments. Two birds, one stone. One egg.

Many. Easter Bastet holds dope holds dope loaded eggs. So Christopher D'Aless, a Sacramento butcher, reached into an Easter basket and handed a state agent 13 colored eggs, each containing an ounce of heroin. Heroin? Agent Tony Gazella, who had been posing as a racketeer, was joined almost immediately by other agents who had been listening from an adjoining hotel room and D'Aless was arrested. He was booked for investigation of charges of possessing and selling narcotics. Got it.

Gazzola, who had told D'A, who was interested in supplying heroin to Alaska, handed him $10,000 in marked bills. Why are you trying to sell heroin to Alaska? Like who, how many people in Alaska- Like, entire state. Yeah, like how many people in Alaska want heroin? And at the same time, like, normally people say to like, a group of people,

not to an entire state. I guess so, yeah. But, $10,000 you said? $10,000 in marked bills, yeah. $10,000 back in 1957, so, you know. Anyway, George Maloney, supervising state narcotics agent, said the 13 ounces of pure heroin would have been worth half a million dollars

if they had been cut and recut before being retailed. State narcotics agents later arrested eight young people on charges of possessing heroin at Sacramento, and Agent Joe House said a definite tie-up existed between the Ullis and the narcotics found on the Five-Mun and Kool-Aid-One. The eight Sacramento's, I've never heard people of Sacramento be called Sacramento's before. The eight Sacramento's held on $2,000 bail

were identified as Ronald Perdue, 22. John Mays, 21. Harry Wyens, 20. His wife Beverly, 18. Whoa, her wife at 18. Audrey Blair, 18. Joyce. Her wife had 18. Audrey Blair, 518. Joyce Pedrin, 21. Ruby Espindola, 21.

And George Welch, 23. So $10,000 would have been about $100,000. $100,000? $112,000. And then how much would half a million dollars and work good question Let's find out Five point six million dollars Wow 5.6 million dollars in today's money if they were able to sell that heroin. Oh

That's crazy If I was to find Easter eggs full ofers, I would also sell them to Alaska. Yeah, I mean it's pretty hard to trace that. I don't know. I mean it was marked bills, though you can trace those. I'll ask for unmarked bills. Good idea. Or just bitcoin.

I think I'd make a good friend of I think really? Yeah. I think I'd make a good premise. Because I think would be so okay. So in that case, I think would be a good pair of criminals because you'd be overconfident and I would cover for you were like things that you like would you know forget. I can see that. Okay. Got it. I'll concede that for it. So this is from the Springfield News Leader 2001, page 28. And this is a little bit of a sweeter now compared to the spanking and the dead rat, the dead squirrel. And it says, death friendly dorm immerses students in ASL. Oh, I thought you said death. No, death. As in dying. No. And like you were like, Oh, this is

different. And you immediately started with death. I was like, what are you talking about? How is this different? That one's getting spanked. Yeah. ASL American Sign. Yes. Death. Friendly dorm, immersive students in ASL. Life at the house is much like anywhere else. Once residents go over, get over their fears. And it says, when the doorbell rings at McDaniel's house, lights flash. When residents of the Western Maryland College Doratory want to get another one's attention, they stomp their feet on the hardwood floors. And when the young woman who lives there wants to talk, they use their hands. Cool. As one of only a few American sign language immersion houses in the nation,

the 11 student dorm was designed to teach hearing students about sign language and deaf culture by having them live in what the school calls deaf friendly environment. Kind of cool actually. Yeah. And once again, this was in 2001. So that was quite early on. Every day we just go about our lives. Courtney Withrow, 21 of Marysville, said in an interview in her room, one of the few

places in the house where speaking is allowed. We eat, we go to class, we shower, we just happen to do it in sign language, which I think is kind of cool. That's really cool. I've always wanted to learn sign language. I joined ASL club in high school, but I was never taken to class.

So I learned very minimal. Little bit. Yeah, not even the basics I would say. Well, thousands of high schools and colleges offer ASL classes, and many organizations have weekend or week-long sign-in language immersion camps. ASL immersion houses for hearing students are unusual, said William J. Newell, who teaches ASL and deaf studies at the National Technical Institute for the Deaf in Rochester, New York. I think it's a wonderful idea. There's no better way to learn

ASL immersion is really the most effective way to learn any language. It is. Which I can agree with that. ASL, the language of American deaf community, is a visual spatial language that has major differences in vocabulary, grammar, idioms, and syntax. More than 21 million people in the United States have some form of hearing loss. The National Association for Deaf says that there has been little scientific research to determine how people use ASL. The dorm opened in Westmere campus in September and was funded by a 1.5 million grant from the US Department of Education that the school received the name. The house was designed to help the school create youth programs in ASL and the training of teachers of deaf students. It's really cool.

We have a Spanish house, a French house, a German floor, said Judy Cordell, the director of the School for Deaf Education Program. It made sense to have an ASL house, she said. However, in the beginning months, the house residents wanted to venture out of their rooms. The only place in the house where they could talk, but not sign. House rules forbid spoken communication in the kitchen, hallways, bathroom, or the living room. A lot of people didn't know what to do, said Colette, one of the deaf graduate students who oversee the house. One deaf student and an interpreter of the house is fluent in ASL.

Another hearing resident is fairly fluent with the language. The rest of the resident's ASL experience ranges from several years of training to a few months. Sophomore Kathleen Miller, 19 years old, said she had forgotten much of the ASL she learned last year and spent most of her first week in her room. Whether she ventured to the bathroom or the system, Miller jumbled her conversations and worried about not knowing the right words. She dreaded running into other students. That was stressful, Miller said.

It was like being in class all day. Three months later, Miller and the others have largely overcome their initial fears. In a recent afternoon at the White Victorian ASL house, a wooden deck chair in the living room described as an ancient illustration of the ASL word for flag and had sign hand proverbs on the mantel. There was a flurry of activity that they described to visitors, what they liked and hated about living in the house. Sarah Hansenny, Jr., put her feet side down on the table to sigh. If too many people blow dry their hair at one time, the electricity goes out, she said, speaking through interpreter Jeff Jetch. We've also had a mouse. Other women offer such details,

the broken stove, the messy bathrooms, and the conflicting musical taste. All complaints that can arise in a house with too many people sharing too little space. But what about problems specific to houses where people only speak ASL? Well, there has been a student who went over the television's volume control with a closed captioning screen and maxed it. Cabral had to fix that. The residents wrote notes. While the residents don't speak loud, their laughter rings through the hallways. Doors slam and feet stomp up and down the stairs. Music, whether it's Michael Jackson or Dixie Chicks, is often turned up so loud it's audible from

outside of the house. People think it's like a ghostly house, Junior Penelope Miller said. Students who minor in Deaf Studies at the school must live in the ASL house for a year or attend a semester at Gallaudet University. Many of the residents want to pursue careers in deaf education. All the students in the house were tested on their ASL proficiency before they moved into the house and will be tested again in May. The residents progress in evidence in the fact that they no longer need written notes to communicate. That's really cool. Yeah, just like the whole idea of trying to push forward, you know, deaf advocacy and education and getting more people involved in that. Like, yeah, like,

immersion, I found it really cool. And this was in 2001. I also think it's really interesting, though, that it's deaf immersion, but they're still able to listen. Yeah, they're still allowed to listen. Like're still allowed to listen to music. They're allowed to talk in their rooms but everywhere else it's just like ASL. Which I think it's a cool thing. That's really cool. I mean immersion is the best way to learn anyway. Yeah for sure. And it's not really like you can travel to like a country where like everyone speaks ASL. Like you can go

like immerse yourself in French, German, Spanish, you know. But you can't really do that with ASL, but I thought that was really cool. Yeah. No, I think, yeah, I've always wanted to learn ASL. I think I might eventually, but that's fun. I remember one time I had just finished a tour and I had some deaf people on my tour

and I went to say thank you. Yeah, I'm in sign language I want to say, you know, thank you. Yeah, um, this is what I did. Yeah. Yeah. No Please I said, oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah Instead of saying thank you a hand from the chin. I said, I'm sorry by rubbing my heart. How did you think it? The lady just looked at me and she like left, like she didn't sign anything back. She just looked at me and then the rest of the group didn't see. Were you confused when you said it or did you realize it was sorry?

No, I realized like right after. Okay. Yeah, so I was like I said the wrong thing. I mean they're pretty close but at the same time different notions. At first I was kind of scarred. I thought I said I loved you. Oh, so I was like I said the wrong thing. I mean, they're pretty close but at the same time different notions But at first I was kind of scarred. I thought I said I loved you Definitely, but I was like, no is I'm sorry Yeah, which is not that bad because I'm sorry like I can't give you a better pull. Yeah, she was probably confused stuff like Yeah, like what? Yeah, I can see that he tried right?

He tried that cool. Yeah. Like what? Yeah, I can see that. He tried, right? He tried. That's cool. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, that was good though. So I guess since we're on an uplifting tone. Yeah. I... Oh, the water stopped.

Oh, the water stopped. Since we're in sort of an uplifting tone right now, I have an article from the Tampa Times, Tampa, Florida. Okay. We were not too far away from there pretty recently. We were not. Tuesday January 14th 1975. 1975. Yeah. So this one's called the Frady Cat Gets Stuck in Tree. Okay. Frady, like you know a frady cat here I thought that was the name of the cat Brady's Mango mango love that

Mango no one in the neighborhood knew its name where it came from how it got there or why? for a week residents of a trailer park on Hillsboro Court heard night and day the loud crying of a stranded cat, treed in a tall pine. I love treed as the use of like a verb. Yeah, it's add it up. Anyway, that cat has been treed. Yeah. The cat had been there for more than a week. No, this is G.E. Wesher of Hillsborough Court had sought help from everyone she could think to get it down.

The fluffy, yellowish, and scared cat, obviously someone's pet and not used to high altitudes, was stranded more than 40 feet above the ground in a typical Florida scrub pine. Fine, the kind that has only one or two limbs near the ground, preventing the timid felines from getting down. Finally, Friday morning, a soft-hearted lady persuaded the Seffner Mango Volunteer Fire Department to attempt a rescue, something Fire Chief

Don Parker said county commissioners and fire officials frown on after a fireman once received severe scratches from a similar good Samaritan. Oh, so they were like, we gotta stay away, be careful. We had already a fireman that got injured. We're not doing this. Yeah. Okay. So Parker, with the new department's new aerial extension ladder, succeeded in getting the

cat down, but it had become frightened by the commotion on the ground and the rumble of the fire engine and jumped from one of the lowest tree lugs 35 feet above the ground. The cat bounced one time four feet above the ground and scurried off into the neighborhood as if the truck were chasing it. So they really just needed to Him down and there's an image of the cat on this article. It's pretty fun And there's like a little circle where the cat is and the caption is hey, I'm down here plenty scared a stranded cat watches from the lower tree bench while a Volunteer member of the Saffron volunteer fire department attempts a rescue No one knows how the cat got itself stranded in the tree, but it took a lot to get it down.

The firemen used their new aerial ladder, but the cat decided to jump from 40 feet instead and scurry it off. I always find that curious though, like they're stuck up there for such a long time, and then help fly when you run, like, come, and then they just jump down. And then they jump down because they get so scared i guess so yeah weird yeah if you're a cat owner i respect you i love cats but cats are weird and they're like assholes listen you need consent pets no seriously like like you own a dog but a cat owns you yeah no very much that way like when you go out the cat thinks you're hunting and we come home the head like oh you're still alive like a dog is man's best friend and a cat is

Just man's hair right Yeah, when something like I mean in like ancient Egypt like there were worship so that is true They were so what do you think of space cats? I think they're cool. Really? I think they're cool. I have one. Okay. I will not have I think they're cool I would like if I knew someone that had a sphinx cat I would be okay with it I would not get one for myself because I know I don't know how true this is if you have a sphinx cat please write it in let me know if I'm correct or wrong because they have no fur you have to moisturize. I believe please write it in the comments and let me know if I'm correct or wrong. Because they have no fur, you have to moisturize them.

I believe that that's true. Yeah, and I don't want to moisturize my cat every single night. No. How does that feel? I think they're like alright. I think they're kind of weird. Yeah, for sure. I would never get one for myself.

If somebody had one, I'd probably pet it. Yeah, that's how I feel. I'd be like... It's just like bare skin. Yeah, is there a proper way to pet this chat? Yeah. You have to bow down to it because it's royalty, you know? You have to show it moisturizer and then it's gonna throw to you and then you're gonna get to pet it with moisturizer. Exactly, yeah. Yes. That's all we have for you folks. If you guys have anything for us make sure to send it in

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